[06:36] <tepsipakki> bryce: he said that the version was the one with the fix
[06:36] <tepsipakki> maybe not on the bug but on #u-d
[06:36] <bryce> hrm, I didn't see this discussion on #u-d
[06:37] <bryce> dah, I hate it when people give the necessary details somewhere *other* than on the bug report
[06:37] <bryce> tepsipakki: btw, I am completely blocked by bug 127101
[06:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127101 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "laptop hangs when switching video mode" [Unknown,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127101
[06:38] <bryce> tepsipakki: I've found several related bugs in debian, so am pretty sure it's not limited to ubuntu
[06:38] <tepsipakki> it's that "switch back to i810" -bug?
[06:38] <bryce> yeah
[06:39] <bryce> the way thully is pushing for that, without offering data or other info to help troubleshoot the main problem, gives me a weird feeling about him
[06:40] <tepsipakki> yep, that's not very constructive
[06:40] <bryce> no one else on the bug is clamoring to revert to i810
[06:42] <tepsipakki> but tbh I'm a bit disappointed how the intel guys have maintained it upstream :/
[06:42] <bryce> well what do you think we should do about it?
[06:42] <tepsipakki> anyway, going back isn't really an option
[06:43] <bryce> I mentioned it to jesse friday, but still waiting on a reply
[06:43] <bryce> mark shuttleworth also pinged intel about it earlier today, still no response afaik
[06:43] <tepsipakki> maybe if the most critical bugs could be narrowed to specific chips we could change discover-data, but other than that..
[06:44] <bryce> it seems to affect just 945GM and 915GM if the reports are worth going by
[06:46] <tepsipakki> does that timhull-bug have any workarounds?
[06:46] <tepsipakki> too long to read it through right now :)
[06:46] <bryce> no, aside from reverting to i810
[06:50] <tepsipakki> ok
[06:56] <tepsipakki> bbl ->
[06:57] <bryce> what do you think of reverting i945 and i915 to use -i810?
[07:21] <bryce> ah, finally was able to reproduce it
[08:22] <jcristau> i thought the problems with -intel were mostly on i8xx
[08:37] <soren> bryce: I'm here now. Sorry about the complete lack of detail in that bug report.
[08:38] <bryce> hi jcristau
[08:38] <bryce> jcristau: I wonder if this may be similar to debian bugs 431373, 432110, and/or 433825
[08:38] <ubotu> Debian bug 431373 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "xserver-xorg-video-intel: sometimes crashes when switching back to X from a VC" [Important,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/431373
[08:38] <ubotu> Debian bug 432110 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "i965 lockup: Error in I830WaitLpRing(), timeout for 2 seconds" [Important,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/432110
[08:39] <bryce> debian bug 433825
[08:39] <ubotu> Debian bug 433825 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "xserver-xorg-video-intel: Error in I830WaitLpRing(), timeout for 2 seconds, on i945GM" [Important,Fixed]  http://bugs.debian.org/433825
[08:40] <jcristau> i've seen some lockups on my laptop, but nothing reproducible
[08:43] <bryce> I was able to reproduce it on my 945gm laptop by doing these steps repeatedly:
[08:43] <bryce> Steps to reproduce:
[08:43] <bryce> 1. Disable desktop effects and enable desktop effects again.
[08:43] <bryce> 2. Switch to VT1 and switch back to VT7.
[08:43] <bryce> 3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 several times.
[08:44] <tepsipakki> if it happens only with effects then it could be disabled in compiz
[08:44] <tepsipakki> blacklisted
[08:44] <tepsipakki> and when the driver is better, enable it again
[08:45] <tepsipakki> switching to i810 means that no update is going to make it switch back to intel :/
[08:45] <tepsipakki> well, unless i810 is dropped completely
[08:46] <jcristau> bryce: oh, i'm not using compiz
[08:48] <soren> bryce: What other information do you need on bug 127008 ?
[08:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127008 in xresprobe "Alternate install of Tribe-4 corrupts video display when installing packages (affected hardware includes Santa Rosa)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127008
[08:56] <bryce> thanks; can you also post your Xorg.0.log?
[08:56] <soren> bryce: From the installer?
[08:58] <bryce> actually what we really need to know is if your system is using xprobe.sh or ddcprobe during install
[08:59] <bryce> it sounds like the issue only occurs when xprobe.sh gets called, so what we need to know is if a) your system experiences the same issue when using ddcprobe, or b) for some reason your system is still using xprobe.sh instead of ddcprobe
[08:59] <soren> bryce: How would I check that?
[09:01] <bryce> you could follow the steps I outlined in comment 30, and test it directly
[09:02] <bryce> or, possibly it's recorded in some casper log somewhere
[09:02] <tepsipakki> casper is only for live-cd
[09:03] <bryce> well 127008 only occurs when booted on the live-cd going through an installation
[09:03] <tepsipakki> oh
[09:03] <soren> Er.. no.
[09:03] <soren> This is the alternate Cd.
[09:04] <bryce> oh right
[09:04] <bryce> sorry, I've been up working bugs 15 hours now; my brain is becoming mush
[09:05] <soren> :)
[09:05] <bryce>  or, possibly it's recorded in some installer log somewhere
[09:05] <bryce> there
[09:05] <soren> I looked and didn't seem to find anything.
[09:06] <soren> Ok, I'll try reinstalling again and see what I can come up with.
[09:07] <tepsipakki> installer logs are in /var/log/installer, but I don't think it writes there anything
[09:31] <bryce> hi mvo
[09:32] <mvo> hey bryce
[09:33] <bryce> mvo, you asked earlier about blacklisting intel drivers?
[09:36] <mvo> bryce: just the i855 chips on intel for compiz because it seem the textures do not survive a suspend/resume
[09:36] <bryce> mvo, bug 127101 occurs on 915gm and 945gm when using compiz; tepsipakki and I were wondering about just blacklisting compiz for them, rather than reverting it back to i810
[09:37] <bryce> mvo, yes blacklisting i855 chips is probably a good idea
[09:37] <mvo> bryce: if we blacklist i855, i915, i945 (and i965 that we already do) then we can as well remove the driver from the compiz whitelist :)
[09:37] <bryce> I may be moving those chips back to -i810
[09:38] <bryce> yeah I know :-/
[09:38] <bryce> however I think if we revert them to -i810, won't that make compiz fail for them as well?
[09:39] <bryce> anyway, I've reported this issue upstream so am waiting on further feedback 
[09:39] <mvo> bryce: they are not blacklisted yet
[09:40] <mvo> bryce: currently we do not support (driver,pciid) blacklising, only pciid
[09:40] <mvo> but that can be changed of course
[09:45] <bryce> ugh, I'm too tired.  Been at this for 16 hrs, I need sleep.
[09:45] <bryce> could you re-ask what your question was for i855?
[09:49] <bryce> I'm going to bed.  cya tomorrow.
[09:50] <tepsipakki> slee tight :)
[09:50] <tepsipakki> sleep!
[09:52] <soren> bryce: It seems that it does call ddcprobe, but that doesn't return a resolution, so it does doprobe, too.
[09:52] <soren> bryce: Oh, never mind. Look at it tomorrow. Sleep tight.
[10:12] <ubotu> New bug: #121295 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[gutsy]  vmware player/server kernel modules are missing (dup-of: 135358)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121295
[10:14] <ubotu> New bug: #135682 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[gutsy amd64]  fglrx driver doesn't load with linux-image-2.6.22-10" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135682
[10:14] <ubotu> New bug: #150922 in bcm43xx-fwcutter "Restrict Drivers Manager installs firmwares only in the current-version kernel directory (dup-of: 138400)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/150922
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #151206 in xorg (main) "failsafe x fails to recover from bad mouse driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151206
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #138400 in restricted-manager "bcm43xx: firmware needs to be cut again if user upgrades kernel" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138400
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #151213 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "latest xorg / nvidia-glx-new /linux-restricted-modules breaks xserver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151213
[11:37] <albert23> bryce: ping (bug 127008)
[11:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127008 in xresprobe "Alternate install of Tribe-4 corrupts video display when installing packages (affected hardware includes Santa Rosa)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127008
[11:40] <albert23> bryce: since xprobe.sh only causes problems combined with framebuffers, would it make any sense to just disable xprobe.sh during installation, but keep using it on the installed system, which doesn't use framebuffers?
[12:01] <soren> albert23: It's not something that runs continuously. It's used at configuration time.
[12:01] <soren> albert23: So "keep using it" doesn't make much sense, I'm afraid.
[12:15] <albert23> soren: thanks. 
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #151228 in mesa (main) "libgl1-mesa-dri uninstallable on lpia" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151228
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #151229 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Live DVD fails to boot on Dell Optiplex GX260 (intel 845G)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151229
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #151248 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse (main) "Touchpad : The laptop integrated touchpad periodically "freezes"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151248
[02:33] <ubotu> New bug: #149810 in xorg (main) "Ubuity Install Fails Improper Display Detection / Crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149810
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #151293 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Fire GL control says that no fire GL extensions are found" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151293
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #151311 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "DPI in kubuntu incorrect on xorg-video-driver-intel" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151311
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #151324 in xorg-server (main) "xorg cpu spin" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151324
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #151327 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[Gutsy]  fglrx driver doesn't load with linux-image-2.6.22-14-xen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151327
[09:47] <ubotu> New bug: #151024 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "can not install gutsy livecd beta with nvidia graphic card" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151024
[10:08] <Q-FUNK> bryce: ?
[10:08] <bryce> Q-FUNK?
[10:10] <Q-FUNK> howdy! :)
[10:10] <Q-FUNK> someone at the dayjob figured out what the bug with -amd autoconfiguration is
[10:10] <bryce> heya
[10:11] <bryce> nice, always better to bring news of a new fix rather than a new bug at this late stage in the cycle, eh?  ;-)
[10:16] <Q-FUNK> ;)
[11:18] <ubotu> New bug: #145629 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[gutsy] videos are played blue with totem gstreamer" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145629