[05:10] (Ethik|LinuxNab/#ubuntu) yea
[05:11] (bexamous/#ubuntu) community service?
[05:11] (Ethik|LinuxNab/#ubuntu) I can plug into a hard line for that
[05:11] (Ethik|LinuxNab/#ubuntu) Thanks man
[05:11] <munk_> how do i find the resolution that i have in the terminal?
[05:11] (darkcrab/#ubuntu) ok, then if you can get ethernet, I recommend getting ndiswrapper via synaptic.
[05:11] (Evanlec/#ubuntu) anyone know an easy solution to get gnome-terminal to REMEMBER its window size dimensions???
[05:11] <ubuntu_> how i fix this    Error while copying to "/media/disk/home/doug".         You do not have permissions to write to this folder.
[05:11] (darkcrab/#ubuntu) compiling it is a biotch
[05:12] <Ethik|LinuxNab> alright
[05:12] <Ethik|LinuxNab> Well
[05:12] <bexamous> chown username:group /media/disk/home/doug probably
[05:12] <Veinor> ubuntu_ what're you trying to do?
[05:12] <etzerd> bexamous; mabe I use the wrong word. I mean a better community in term of organization.
[05:12] <darkcrab> ubuntu, go in terminal and sudo
[05:12] <Ethik|LinuxNab> I have to go downstairs to plug in
[05:12] <darkcrab> copy using mv
[05:12] <bexamous> i've switched everythign to ubuntu, including stuff at work
[05:12] <ubuntu_> Veinor: im in live cd and trying to copy a folder from live cd to the real disk
[05:13] <bexamous> well we just ditched redhat basicaly
[05:13] <darkcrab> sudo mv /media/disk/home/doug* /what yours trying to copy to
[05:13] <myconid> is there a reasonably simple GUI based backup app for ubuntu? (for a small business network)
[05:13] <myconid> backup /home to a usb drive...
[05:13] <allam> how i can modify the screen resolution
[05:13] <bruenig> gui ewww
[05:13] <bruenig> myconid, backing up /home to a usb drive is a simple as one command
[05:14] <Veinor> ubuntu_ put the word 'sudo' before the command you're trying to run
[05:14] <Flannel> !backup | myconid
[05:14] <ubotu> myconid: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:14] <frijolie> so is there no need to "defrag" GNU/Linux?
[05:14] <bexamous> allam: Look up xorg.conf
[05:14] <myconid> bruenig, telling someone to run tar cvfz /home/ /media/sd5/ isnt a way to win over windows users :P
[05:14] <bruenig> myconid, you said nothing of tarring
[05:14] <myconid> frijolie, is there ever REALLY a need to defrag?
[05:15] <darkcrab> allam, system preferences screen resolution
[05:15] <bexamous> probably not with ubuntu
[05:15] <ubuntu_> Veinor: i done tht
[05:15] <bexamous> gentoo and some others can screw over a system wih fragmentation
[05:15] <bruenig> and I am not trying to win over windows users, I am trying to help linux users
[05:15] <trdracer> !azureus
[05:15] <frijolie> file /disk fragmentation
[05:15] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:15] <bexamous> portage directory for example is horrible
[05:15] <MasterShrek> myconid, never ext takes care of it
[05:15] <Dan_> hiya people how do i change rooms on here again sorry?
[05:15] <bruenig> that tar command wouldn't work by the way
[05:15] <MasterShrek> bexamous, gentoo doesnt fragment
[05:15] <frijolie> I guess Unix indexes all the data and knows right where it lies on the hard disk?
[05:15] <myconid> 'rooms' ?
[05:15] <bexamous> uh
[05:15] <Dan_> channels
[05:16] <allam> thanks
[05:16] <bexamous> yea it does
[05:16] <Veinor> Dan_: /join #whatever
[05:16] <MasterShrek> no it doesnt
[05:16] <bruenig> bexamous, no it doesn't
[05:16] <myconid> MasterShrek, a. ubuntu doesnt control anything about files, b. ext3 does create fragments
[05:16] <Dan_> i just wanted to change to ubuntu off topic
[05:16] <Dan_> or sumtin but im not sure how
[05:16] <Dan_> just wnated to thank someone
[05:16] <myconid> type /quit ?
[05:16] <Veinor> >_< no don't
[05:16] <darkcrab> yup
[05:16] <Evanlec> why does ntfs have to be defragged and ext3 does not, im interested as well
[05:16] <MasterShrek> myconid, not enough to make a difference because it fixes itself fast enough to not have to worry about it
[05:16] <Veinor>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:16] <Dan_> thanks guy :)
[05:16] <tmba> hey, I think I have borked one of my fat32 partitions using fdisk (all I did was to start fdisk and then use 'w' to exit without any changes). Now I can't mount it and fsck.msdos reports 'logical sector size is 0'. I don't want to loose the data on the partition, is there anyway of fixing it?
[05:17] <Veinor> there aren't even any defrag utils in the ubuntu reps, so I wouldn't worry about it.
[05:17] <myconid> Evanlec, NTFS needs to be defragged so that a company can exist to sell defragging software.
[05:17] <Evanlec> how does it fix itself?
[05:17] <Evanlec> myconid, lol, but defrag comes with windows...
[05:17] <marko-ubuntu> groups <username>
[05:17] <myconid> MasterShrek, 'fixes it self'?
[05:17] <myconid> Evanlec, and who made that defrag app that comes with Windows?
[05:17] <bruenig> myconid, yeah that's kind of a stupid point since defragging comes with windows...
[05:17] <MasterShrek> it fixes its fragments
[05:17] <Evanlec> myconid, microsoft?
[05:17] <ubuntu_> darkcrab:  i did what u said it moved the whole ubuntu desktop to the real one and put my home folder in the ubuntu folder
[05:17] <bruenig> microsoft?
[05:17] <bexamous> search gentoo forums about fragmetnation
[05:17] <MasterShrek> you never have to worry about fragmentation because the filesystem takes care of itself
[05:18] <myconid> Evanlec, nope! start->run->cmd->defrag -v == "Executive Software"
[05:18] <Evanlec> is that part of the journaling thing, was ext2 the same way?
[05:18] <MasterShrek> bexamous, there is nothing different from gentoo to ubuntu when it comes to filesystems, ext3 is ext3 no matter what distro its using
[05:18] <bexamous> yes thre is
[05:18] <Evanlec> myconid, no kidding, didnt know that...but why would microsoft want to pay them to fix something if they could just use a better FS
[05:18] <marko-ubuntu> Kylie2004-  the command is   groups <username>
[05:18] <bexamous> gentoo's portage directy has insanely large numbers of files
[05:18] <darkcrab> What exactly did you type in the terminal ubuntu?
[05:18] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, ext3 journals, ext2 doesnt
[05:18] <cafuego> MasterShrek: That is not entirely correct.
[05:18] <bexamous> and every time you do an emerge sysn an insane numer of them ar deleted and added
[05:18] <Veinor> Evanlec: because switching from ntfs to anything else would break compatibility in a massive way
[05:18] <bruenig> bexamous, ports systems don't fragment much especially those distributed via cvs
[05:18] <MasterShrek> fix it for me, ive read many forums on it
[05:18] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, right i know, but journaling isnt related to fragmentation correct?
[05:19] <cafuego> MasterShrek: Some distros enable different FS options by default.
[05:19] <MasterShrek> i dont think so Evanlec
[05:19] <cafuego> Though I noticed gutsy appears to enable dir_index by default now.
[05:19] <frijolie> reiserFS?
[05:19] <bruenig> bexamous, mostly edits and additions
[05:19] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, hey by the way, did u ever test out that RT kernel last night?
[05:19] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, it wouldnt boot, i was gonna compile one but i got lazy
[05:19] <myconid> ext3 fragments just like any other filesystem.
[05:19] <ubuntu_> ok now my home folder is in the ubuntu folder how i fix that?
[05:19] <MasterShrek> no it doesnt
[05:19] <MasterShrek> !ext3
[05:19] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:20] <myconid> MasterShrek, yes - it does.
[05:20] <ArtVandalae> It does fragment, but it is better than other filesystems
[05:20] <MasterShrek> im going to get a link to prove a point
[05:20] <darkcrab> hold on.
[05:20] <cafuego> myconid: "FAT fragments unlike any other filesystem"
[05:20] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, wouldn't boot? thats not good...it should be the same as the gutsy kernel just with the rt patch...
[05:21] <myconid> MasterShrek, I had to move my mailserver to xfs due to fragmenting issues on 7000 mailbox files.  EXT3 *does* infact fragment.  It just chooses to less frequently than say FAT did.
[05:21] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, yea, it was -13 tho, and i heard that was giving some people problems, im using -12 right now
[05:21] <myconid> FAT was optimized for small drives.. fragment first.. ask questions later.
[05:21] <myconid> EXT3 the opposite
[05:21] <bexamous> yea
[05:21] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, oh....well i hope i get a chance to try it out when i upgrade to gutsy
[05:21] <bexamous> i've been using xfs as its pretty easy to defrag
[05:21] <LinuxJuggalo> !pidgin
[05:21] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[05:22] <kotau> hello, I'm trying to get right click functionality with my tablet pc.  It uses a wacom driver and is already detecting pointing and clicking, but right clicking isnt running yet.  I know there is a command to show the wacom input (ie. cursor position, input methods) that I need to see to check what event my right click is.  Anyonw know that command?
[05:22] <bexamous> justhave to install the extra tools for xfs
[05:22] <darkcrab> ubuntu, so your telling me your "home", the folder called home, is in the filesystem?
[05:22] <ArtVandalae> I don't think there is a filesystem that doesn't fragment. I mean you could technically implement a non-fragmenting FS, but it would be as slow as hell
[05:22] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: yes
[05:23] <bexamous> well it would be impossible unless it was contatnly rearangign data in teh background
[05:23] <myconid> ArtVandalae, Actually it wouldnt be slow... but it would have issues if you went over, say, 90% utliziation of the drive
[05:23] <myconid> bexamous, incorrect.
[05:23] <Evanlec> it would be slower cuz it would have to move around on the disk more...
[05:23] <bexamous> how?
[05:24] <kotau> I'd bet running a torrent would bring it to its disk access knees
[05:24] <myconid> Faster, because *everything* would be written sequentially.
[05:24] <Evanlec> the head would have to move a lot more to write files to the same place
[05:24] <myconid> Evanlec, you lean less.
[05:24] <decay> When booting from the CD, is there a way to make it so it doesnt look for network interfaces? it freezes there for me
[05:24] <myconid> decay, disable them in bios?
[05:24] <Evanlec> well...i thot the tradeoff with fragmentation was it was faster for the disk to just write data where it was currently at, and then clean it up later
[05:25] <kotau> decay yes, it's a command at the boot: prompt
[05:25] <darkcrab> ok ubuntu that should be normal, under your file system there should be a folder called home? so describe the problem a little more so I can know what needs to be moved?
[05:25] <bexamous> fill a 10MB file system with 10 1MB files, delete two files not next to eachother and cratea  2MB file.. fragmented, imposible to stop
[05:25] <myconid> Evanlec, Fragmentation is required so that you can use a drive.. without fragments you probably couldnt write 20gb to a 100gb harddrive.
[05:25] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: now i have two homes one is with* and one with out
[05:25] <bexamous> without rearanging files nit eh background
[05:25] <myconid> bexamous, fyi, Apple rearranges files in the background (continuous defrag)
[05:25] <darkcrab> open the one with the *
[05:26] <kotau> decay, try netcfg/disable_dhcp
[05:26] <myconid> HFS+ automatically defrags <20mb files on open
[05:26] <decay> kotau, thanks. pass that as a paremeter?
[05:26] <Evanlec> myconid, oh, i guess i dont really know what im talking about then lol
[05:26] <darkcrab> what is in there?
[05:26] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: yea and theres anothr with it named that
[05:26] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: but with out the *
[05:27] <Evanlec> myconid, hey on a sort of related topic, is a sata drive in ubuntu automatically set to dma mode or do i have to set that myself?
[05:27] <bexamous> apple is getting zfs as well
[05:27] <myconid> bexamous, wasnt that an unfounded rumor?
[05:28] <kotau> decay yeah netcfg/disable_dhcp=true is what you should put in at the boot:
[05:28] <myconid> Evanlec, it should be automatic in this day in age.. sata is scsi as linux sees it.
[05:28] <cafuego> No, apple is getting ZFS
[05:28] <bexamous> nah it was just in the news again
[05:28] <myconid> nice.
[05:28] <cafuego> Linux is not.
[05:28] <myconid> Almost makes me wana get a MBP
[05:28] <Evanlec> myconid, cuz i was lookin at some tweak somewhere to enable dma mode, do u know how i can check if it is in DMA ?
[05:28] <cafuego> And ZFS/FUSE is so slow as to be completely unuseable at this point.
[05:28] <myconid> Evanlec, speed test?
[05:28] <bexamous> yea i ran it for awhile lol
[05:28] <wescotte> Is it possible to boot with the LiveCD/install disc.. Installl a few packages and rebuild a new LiveCD/Install disc iso based on what you have installed?
[05:28] <kotau> Anyone familiar with wacom stuff?  I need to figure out what event my right click with a pen is.
[05:28] <cafuego> Evanlec: DMA does not apply to sata.
[05:28] <decay> kotau, thanks. trying it now
[05:29] <Evanlec> cafuego, oh
[05:29] <cafuego> Evanlec: Much like it does not apply to scsi.
[05:29] <kotau> np decay
[05:29] <Evanlec> myconid, bonnie++ ?
[05:29] <darkcrab> no wescotte.lol
[05:29] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: wht i do?
[05:29] <myconid> DMA does indeed apply to SATA.
[05:29] <bexamous> http://www.macrumors.com/2007/10/04/apple-seeds-zfs-read-write-developer-preview-1-1-for-leopard/
[05:29] <wescotte> darkcrab: is it a big ordeal to create your own LiveCD?
[05:29] <trdracer>    /sbin/iptables -I INPUT 1 -i <EXT_INT> -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST,ACK SYN --dport <PORT> -m state --state NEW -j
[05:29] <darkcrab> what is inside the home* folder ubuntu?
[05:29] <trdracer> what is it that i input in that?
[05:29] <Evanlec> oooh, some disagreement
[05:30] <trdracer>    /sbin/iptables -I INPUT 1 -i <EXT_INT> -p udp --dport <PORT> -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
[05:30] <trdracer> and that
[05:30] <myconid> But SATA hosts require DMA support.. so its implied that its on if your cards working.
[05:30] <darkcrab> to create one, not, but not the way you want to.
[05:30] <cafuego> myconid: Not in terms of needing to run hdparm to turn it on.
[05:30] <trdracer> i dont know what im supposed to insert
[05:30] <darkcrab> you have to add the packages on the cd while your are going to burn it
[05:30] <myconid> cafuego, correct... but DMA still exists, and can still be an issue .. but its more a driver level issue now..
[05:30] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: no just another home
[05:30] <darkcrab> but I dont think ubuntu allows that.
[05:30] <darkcrab> so it is empty ubuntu?
[05:30] <Wooderson> how do i unignore someone in xchat?
[05:31] <Evanlec> myconid, using motherboard onboard sata...so ur saying i must DMA on if my drive works?
[05:31] <darkcrab> I need to know whether it is empty or not before I decide what to do ubuntu
[05:32] <myconid> Evanlec, no! not at all.  Im saying that theres no way to (usually) turn it on or off.
[05:32] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: no its got the reg home dir in it
[05:32] <myconid> Evanlec, your drivers should have it enavbled.
[05:32] <miraage> Hey, I'm trying to get my Geforce 6600 working in Ubuntu. What package do I need for glx and kernel drivers? I'm on AMD64
[05:32] <myconid> Wooderson, google.com, site:xchat.org unignore or unblock.
[05:32] <darkcrab> ok, thats what I needed to know, what does the other home directory have inside of it, this is important?
[05:32] <Wooderson> what?
[05:32] <Evanlec> myconid, okay, what would i use to test that?
[05:32] <myconid> Is there a benefit to running 64bit kernel on my AMD64?
[05:32] <bexamous> mirrage, nvidia.com or automatix
[05:33] <Wooderson> no i ignored someone by accident on here and now i cant see anything they type or anything
[05:33] <bexamous> biggest benefit is still if ou haev more than 3GB of ram
[05:33] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: the examples folder
[05:33] <myconid> Evanlec, dmesg | grep dma?
[05:33] <miraage> bexamous: Huh? I cant do it through the package manager?
[05:33] <myconid> Evanlec, [   21.156597]  ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x0001e200 ctl 0x0001e302 bmdma 0x0001e408 irq 16
[05:33] <bexamous> automatix will do it
[05:33] <decay> kotau, now it freezes on 'loading hardware drivers'. any thoughts?
[05:33] <kotau> decay do you have usb stuff plugged in?
[05:34] <allam> i want to change the order of grup that appear when i boot the os i have linux at first then windows but i want windows at first then linux
[05:34] <kotau> decay is it a laptop or desktop
[05:34] <miraage> bexamous: will Synaptic?
[05:34] <Evanlec> myconid, yep i pulled up 6 entries appearing like that, ata1 and ata2 at udma/100 the rest at udma/133
[05:34] <bexamous> no
[05:34] <darkcrab> wait, does the "home folder have a folder with your name?
[05:34] <miraage> bexamous: What is automatix?
[05:34] <myconid> Evanlec,  then you should be golden.
[05:34] <darkcrab> "home"
[05:34] <myconid> Evanlec, do you have a reason to think they arent running DMA?
[05:34] <Evanlec> myconid, kk, now i should just switch to xfs right? lol
[05:34] <AndyCR> Anyone having issues with deskbar in feisty?
[05:34] <myconid> Evanlec, not unless you need to.
[05:34] <bexamous> automatix.com or check ubuntu forums for it...  lots of threads about it
[05:34] <Evanlec> myconid, no my performance seems pretty good actually, im just a tweak-freak
[05:34] <decay> kotau, nope. i tried installing the beta last night, but i had problems with TSC Synchronization. So now im intalling the latest one (not bera)
[05:34] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: yes has a folder with my name
[05:34] <decay> beta*
[05:35] <miraage> bexamous: And why the hell can't I do something so simple with the default package manager??
[05:35] <bexamous> cause
[05:35] <bexamous> ;)
[05:35] <myconid> Evanlec, I would find your chipset.. and google around for tweaks/updates/etc for your specific sata chipset.
[05:35] <munk_> can SOMEBODY please please help me? i tried everything in order to change my resolution...i have an intel chipset so i have to use 915resolution...but i did follow a few guides and i didnt succed in changing it from 1024x768 to 1280x800 can somebody help me please
[05:35] <frijolie> once you install something via a tarball, does it install it to a different directory (usually--assuming default options)?
[05:35] <munk_> ?
[05:35] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: this is how i see it
[05:35] <allam> i want to change the order of grup that appear when i boot the os i have linux at first then windows but i want windows at first then linux
[05:35] <miraage> bexamous: I don't believe you.
[05:35] <bexamous> lol okay
[05:35] <myconid> munk_, would you like to ask a question?
[05:35] <darkcrab> how the fook did that happen.
[05:35] <darkcrab> thats crazy
[05:35] <bexamous> you can use teh free nv driver but it has no 3d crap
[05:35] <frijolie> I guess what I'm trying to say...can you erase the original folder where it extracted to when you untarred it?
[05:35] <graphyx> Hey, gotta question.  If I delete a folder with a lot of files from the File manager, it doesn't show the space as available with df -h.  What gives?
[05:35] <darkcrab> it can be fixed though
[05:35] <bexamous> teh nvidia binary provided from nvidia you have to install on your own
[05:36] <bexamous> automatix does it for you if you'd like
[05:36] <myconid> bexamous, really?  ubuntu installed it for me...
[05:36] <kotau> decay is it a laptop?
[05:36] <bexamous> nv or nvidia?
[05:36] <bullgard4> How much free disk space do I need on my partitions in order to upgrade from Ubuntu 7.04 to Ubuntu 7.10?
[05:36] <ubuntu_> darkcrab:  go to file system click home then see doug* click on that then i see doug and pics i click on doug i see examples
[05:36] <decay> kotau, yes
[05:36] <Evanlec> myconid, hmm, running the Intel 955X chipset :  http://tw.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=1903&ProductName=GA-8I955X%20Pro
[05:36] <myconid> bullgard4, can you do an inplace upgrade somehow (without an ISO)
[05:36] <bexamous> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:37] <munk_> myconid i cannot change my resolution...i have an intel chipset and i have to use 915resolution and i cant get it to work...please help me
[05:37] <scipio> munk_, did you modify your xorg.xonf file so it knows the new resolution is available?
[05:37] <darkcrab> you dont see desktop ubuntu?
[05:37] <myconid> munk_, Why can you "not change resolutions"?
[05:37] <bullgard4> myconid: Yes I can do. I have done so in the past when I upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04
[05:37] <kotau> decay ok try this paramater along with the dhcp param 'hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false'
[05:37] <munk_> scipio it doesnt work through the xorg.conf
[05:37] <myconid> bullgard4, how?
[05:37] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: not anymore
[05:37] <myconid> munk_, what error do you get?
[05:37] <kotau> munk you have to restart x have you tried that after editing xorg.conf?
[05:38] <munk_> myconid whenever i do 915resolution 4d 1280 800 16 it does sumn but when i restartx its still at the original rez....
[05:38] <myconid> munk_, check /var/log/x.log.org (or somehting like that) for an error message about your resolution.. probably missing a modeline
[05:38] <munk_> myconid no error..
[05:38] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: im sory i got messed up
[05:38] <Veinor> can anyone tell me how to completely uninstall and rebuild nautilus? I have an issue that I think i caused by building it from source wrong, and I'd like to do a complete purge.
[05:38] <decay> kotau, okay. hold on, rebooting
[05:38] <munk_> myconid the intel chipsets dont use xorg settings for resolution...
[05:38] <allam> how i can change the order of the operating systems i installed in my computer when the computer start
[05:38] <bullgard4> I did follow the offer of Ubuntu 6.10 to upgrade to 7.10 using my ADSL connection to the Internet.
[05:38] <darkcrab> so all together there are 3 doug folders?
[05:39] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: when i click on filesystem>home then i see ubuntu
[05:39] <kotau> munk I have a 855, mine uses xorg...
[05:39] <myconid> munk_, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. im willing to bet you will se an error
[05:39] <bullgard4> myconid:   I did follow the offer of Ubuntu 6.10 to upgrade to 7.10 using my ADSL connection to the Internet.
[05:39] <munk_> myconid let me check
[05:39] <bullgard4> myconid: err! 7.04
[05:39] <myconid> linux needs to come with a pastebin app.
[05:40] <myconid> pastebin <file.txt>
[05:40] <allam> how i can change the order of the operating systems i installed in my computer when the computer start
[05:40] <kotau> veinor try sudo apt-get --purge remove nautilus
[05:40] <myconid> dmesg | pastebin
[05:40] <mindframe-> what's the lp module for ?
[05:40] <AndyCR> myconid: Good idea, but it shouldnt be too difficult to write
[05:40] <dwf_starband> I have a problem, After restarting my computer i can view videos with totom,mplayer, and watch both recordings and live tv with mythtv, but after a while im not able to, its just a pink screen, or multicolored static, is there something obvious i can do to fix this?
[05:40] <bexamous> allam:  look at /boot/grub/grub.conf... or menu.lst forget which ubuntu uses
[05:40] <AndyCR> Sounds like a good few hours project for interest
[05:40] <bexamous> think that is what your talking abuot
[05:40] <AndyCR> menu.lst
[05:41] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: when i open ubuntu i see desktop click on desktop then i see xamples and install there is no doug* now
[05:41] <myconid> AndyCR: I have one kinda sorta.. not very well tested.. maybe i should clean it up and get it included :)
[05:41] <AndyCR> myconid: sounds good
[05:41] <allam> but the menu list file i cant modify it because it protected
[05:41] <AndyCR> cat /sys/log | grep NetworkManager > pastebin
[05:41] <munk_> myconid there are no errors, only a couple warnings nothing major...
[05:41] <myconid> munk_, please paste your entire log file into pastebin
[05:42] <AndyCR> stdout: http://pastebin.whatever/82736
[05:42] <bexamous> you have to edit it as root, do like sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:42] <AndyCR> giving you the url of the post
[05:42] <dwf_starband> anyone?
[05:42] <kotau> munk have you looked at http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/documentation.html
[05:42] <JFr3ak> hello can sombody tellme where put some script to run at startup but don't in session please...
[05:42] <myconid> dwf_starband, does it work fine in Windows?
[05:42] <decay> kotau, thanks :)
[05:43] <kotau> did it work?
[05:43] <darkcrab> ok I have an idea ubuntu, do you remember what you typed in the terminal?
[05:43] <munk_> kotau not at that specific one but i looked at other documents about this thing..let me take a look..
[05:43] <dwf_starband> myconid: havent had windows on this computer for over a year
[05:43] <ubuntu_> darkcrab: can u join me in room #darkcrab
[05:43] <inx-one> JFr3ak: it depends - /etc/rc.local is one answer
[05:43] <munk_> myconid yeah hold on a sec
[05:43] <myconid> dwf_starband, that doesnt answer my question
[05:43] <kotau> munk that is how I sucessfully set mine up with dual monitors even
[05:43] <darkcrab> just joined
[05:43] <broken> munk_: ? lol
[05:43] <broken> munk_: im everywhere.
[05:44] <myconid> wow... xubuntu rocks my socks.
[05:44] <dwf_starband> myconid: what is your question? can I watch video in Windows?
[05:44] <broken> even though I don't use ubuntu im on this channel for some reason..
[05:44] <lee__> hello i was wondering is there any thing that resembles directx or is that the only thing that linux can not do lol
[05:44] <munk_> broken lol yeah u are
[05:44] <myconid> dwf_starband, im trying to determine if its hardware, software, or user error.
[05:44] <JFr3ak> inx-one: i have a problem with compiz and gnome-settings-daemon, right now i call gnome-settings-daemon from session but it execute twice...
[05:44] <EruditeHermit> hey, I was looking at the gutsy installer CD and it had an option to resize existing windows partitions. Is this safe. I know its not guaranteed to be safe but is it on par with say partition magic?
[05:44] <munk_> dude im getting pissed about my resolution:(
[05:44] <broken> munk_:  family friendly no swear words please
[05:44] <broken> LOL
[05:44] <bexamous> i'ev never had it destroy a windows partition
[05:44] <munk_> broken how do i nopaste a file in ubuntu?
[05:44] <kotau> haha
[05:44] <bexamous> but who knows lol
[05:44] <broken> !hi munk_
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi munk_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <myconid> munk_, post your farking log file to paste bin.
[05:44] <inx-one> JFr3ak: ah, that's different - you are talking sessions
[05:44] <lee__> hu you have a gutsy intsaller cd taht works?
[05:45] <broken> munk_: apt-get install nopaste?
[05:45] <broken> I'
[05:45] <broken> Or you can use pastebin.ca or anything really.
[05:45] <munk_> lol it doesnt work
[05:45] <munk_> but how do i select it all?
[05:45] <dwf_starband> ok, I dont have windows installed on this computer so I cant determin that, but its not limited to captured video, all video seems to stop working, at least mpg and avi files
[05:45] <inx-one> !doesn't work
[05:45] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:45] <JFr3ak> inx-one: yes but in session don't works fine, it runs twice... i have to kill one off the process....
[05:45] <lee__> hi ya lee in the yuk lol
[05:45] <myconid> dwf_starband, did it just start happening?
[05:45] <kotau> EruditeHermit it works pretty well for me.  I resized an NTFS part no prob
[05:45] <broken> !ubotu sucks
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sucks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <JFr3ak> inx-one: other way the system turns so slow...
[05:46] <broken> munk_: one second..
[05:46] <dwf_starband> yes, I think so, since i started getting mythtv set up is when I noticed it
[05:46] <lee__> any how for reals I have soft ware that requires direct x or something to it
[05:46] <JFr3ak> inx-one:  i want run gnome-settings-daemon just once...
[05:46] <munk_> myconid i have no clue how to paste the whole file there...
[05:47] <moDumass> hey all, um, how do you fix broken packages
[05:47] <JFr3ak> it is possible to kill a process just with the name off the process ?? something like kill gnome-settings-daemon ??
[05:47] <bexamous> dwf_starband: I had that happen like years ago... it was the nvidia driver that would screw up
[05:47] <broken> moDumass: you reinstall them!
[05:47] <inx-one> JFr3ak: killall gnome-settings-daemon
[05:47] <kotau> I found the command I was looking for to see the raw dump of Wacom inputs.  navigate to /dev/input and use sudo xxd 'eventX' x being whatever number your tablet is on
[05:47] <dwf_starband> bexamous: what was your solution?
[05:47] <tomato^> hi all, i wann do 2way sync can anyone help me?
[05:48] <broken> This channel is wayy too crowded.
[05:48] <Dr_willis> tomato^,  give more details is step 1.
[05:48] <lee__> is currently running the ati x300 with no issues and I have the propietray drivers installed
[05:48] <kotau> moDumass try apt-get remove --purge 'package name' then reinstall it
[05:48] <EruditeHermit> kotau: did you defragment before doing it?
[05:48] <lee__> form ATI
[05:48] <JFr3ak> inx-one: just a question these command will kill both process or just the first ??
[05:48] <bexamous> I think it only happened if i switched consoles or something, it eventually got fixed by updating nvidia driver... but that was long ago
[05:48] <moDumass> i used the broken filter in synaptic to find the package but there seems to be many
[05:48] <kotau> EruditeHermit I did it with a fresh install (I had no partition info because it was an OEM rescue disk)
[05:48] <Veinor> kotau: didn't help. I checked the version and it's 2.18.1, I just don't have the sidebars.
[05:49] <inx-one> JFr3ak: both I expect :)
[05:49] <kotau> veinor you did the --purge?
[05:49] <inx-one> JFr3ak: find the pid to kill it
[05:49] <Veinor> kotau: yes.
[05:49] <myconid> ./binge
[05:49] <myconid> ./binge --purge
[05:49] <kotau> lawl
[05:49] <JFr3ak> inx-one: it is possible kill just one...
[05:49] <lee__> hmm sounds anaresic to me
[05:49] <bexamous> if you use like mplayer -vo=xv filewhatever it still is all green?
[05:50] <JFr3ak> inx-one: yes that is what i want, but sincerely i don't have any idea of how do it...
[05:50] <inx-one> JFr3ak: for instance  ps aux | grep gnome-settings-daemon , then kill one by number
[05:50] <myconid> lee__, thats cat /dev/zero
[05:50] <lee__> eh anorexic
[05:50] <dwf_starband> bexamous: would reinstalling the nvidia drivers help at all?
[05:50] <kotau> Veinor that would remove all your configureations for nautilus....
[05:50] <bexamous> no idea
[05:50] <bexamous> try different video outs with mplayer
[05:50] <myconid> munk_, open the file in firefox for hecks sake, copy and paste it
[05:50] <inx-one> JFr3ak: or use top - you can kill using "k" in top
[05:50] <bexamous> xv is optimal but see if any do it
[05:50] <kotau> dont cry, kid.  You'll get your widescreen
[05:50] <lee__> oh
[05:50] <tomato^> Dr_willis, i want to sync a directory that exist both on my pc an server
[05:50] <dwf_starband> what do you mean different video outs?
[05:50] <lee__> cat/devzero?
[05:50] <broken> munk_: lol
[05:50] <broken> y0u n00b
[05:50] <JFr3ak> inx-one: yep i do that now, but i want do it from a script, do you think that is possible ???
[05:51] <Dr_willis> tomato^,   theres a dozen + ways to do that..  check out unison
[05:51] <buba> hey where i can find a pdf manual or something for ubuntu ultimate...im a noob
[05:51] <tomato^> Dr_willis, such that if i updated the files on my pc it will push to the server and vice versa
[05:51] <lee__> yeah iam a noob lol
[05:51] <kotau> munk look at your xorg.conf and tell me what you have under device
[05:51] <Veinor> I purged, then purged libeel for good measure. I did a manual search of /usr/local for all files with nautilus in the name, and they seem to be icons and the like. Should I rm them anyway
[05:51] <bexamous> mplayer can use differnt video output drivers
[05:51] <inx-one> JFr3ak: of course - just identify the process in the script and use the pid to kill it, for example
[05:51] <tomato^> Dr_willis, can unison also sync mysql databases?
[05:52] <lee__> this "Mplayer is choppy" lol
[05:52] <munk_> lol ok i got it hah i feel dumb even more now..
[05:52] <kotau> Veinor hmm not sure that would affect it... what is happening about your sidebar?  I'm confused as to what is wrong
[05:52] <JFr3ak> inx-one: tell me please... i'm newbie
[05:52] <dwf_starband> ok, how do I select different ones?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> tomato^,  no idea.. read its details/docs. I dont mess with mysql.
[05:52] <munk_> myconid http://pastebin.org/4517
[05:52] <miraage> I keep getting a version mismatch when I start X with nvidia as my driver. It says kernel is 9xxx and module is 7xxx (I have an old Geforce 6600 so I use legacy).
[05:52] <munk_> kotau thanks ....lol
[05:52] <buba> hey where i can find a pdf manual or something for ubuntu ultimate...im a noob
[05:52] <lee__> this is strange it didnt highlight my name
[05:52] <kotau> munk_ no prob I'm a newbie too
[05:52] <broken> lol
[05:52] <munk_> hah
[05:52] <Veinor> kotau: http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3363/nautilusod7.png
[05:53] <inx-one> JFr3ak: I don't quite understand why you need to do this...
[05:53] <Veinor> that's what happens.
[05:53] <tomato^> did someone here tried unison?
[05:53] <myconid> PanelID returned panel resolution : 1280x800 << monk this resolutuion?
[05:53] <lee__> any how is there something like direct x or can linux use that..I need it for a program tht I use for editing my vids
[05:53] <munk_> broken shut up u genious werent able to help me either..
[05:53] <kotau> veinor are you horseraper  I know that sounds wierd but I recognize that graphic
[05:53] <broken> munk_: thats cause i don't use ubuntu
[05:53] <broken> LOL
[05:53] <myconid> monk, are you trying to run 1280x800?
[05:53] <Veinor> kotau: no, but that's where I do get the graphic.
[05:53] <munk_> myconid yes
[05:53] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[05:53] <JFr3ak> inx-one: is something relly strange, i tell u, my problem is that i have compiz-fusion, but when runs, the gnome-settings-daemon don't works
[05:53] <kotau> veinor awesome
[05:54] <Veinor> :D
[05:54] <munk_> broken hah yeah lol...i got it working in gentoo..lol..
[05:54] <Cpudan80> Im trying to setup my machine so that people may only login it for X hours per day
[05:54] <bexamous> Gentoo = work
[05:54] <JFr3ak> inx-one: the icons theme for example simply don't works
[05:54] <Cpudan80> before they are kicked off
[05:54] <munk_> bexamous i agree...
[05:54] <munk_> i have gentoo on my pc
[05:54] <munk_> but broken here convinced me to put ubuntu..
[05:54] <inx-one> JFr3ak: ah, i don't know anything about Compiz Fusion - try #ubuntu-effects
[05:54] <kotau> Veinor try hitting f9
[05:54] <bexamous> I just gavei t up after like 4 years i think
[05:54] <munk_> on my laptop..
[05:54] <myconid> monk, do you have a TV or anyting plugged into your laptop?
[05:54] <munk_> bexamous why?
[05:54] <JFr3ak> inx-one: then i put in my session a call to gnome-settings-daemon, and everything works so fine
[05:54] <capo> whenever i enable the restricted drivers, i restart, and the ubuntu gui wont start up.  after the loading screen, my monitor loses video signal.  what should i do?
[05:54] <broken> glsa-check -t all :(
[05:54] <munk_> myconid nope...
[05:54] <bexamous> too much work lol
[05:55] <myconid> monk, this seems to maybe be  the issue ...
[05:55] <myconid> (--) I810(0): A non-CRT device is attached to pipe B.
[05:55] <myconid> 	No refresh rate overrides will be attempted.
[05:55] <munk_> bexamous but that works...
[05:55] <myconid> munk_, what resolution is working?
[05:55] <munk_> myconid so what should i do about that?
[05:55] <JFr3ak> inx-one: the problem is that everything run too slow, then i see the top and find twice gnome-settings-daemon just kill the first and everything just works fine
[05:55] <miraage> Anyone, can you help me with nvidia drivers?
[05:55] <munk_> im not sure cuz i cant check i dunno how but it looks like 1024x768
[05:55] <kotau> Veinor hey man try hittin f9, that opens the sidebar
[05:55] <lee__> hmm i hav e ati..
[05:56] <buba> anyone can help me whit ubuntu???
[05:56] <myconid> try adding this to your display...
[05:56] <lee__> sorry
[05:56] <munk_> myconid to xorg.conf?
[05:56] <myconid>   Option "ModeValidation" "DFP-0: NoDFPNativeResolutionCheck, NoVertRefreshCheck,NoMaxPClkCheck, NoHorizSyncCheck, NoEdidMaxPClkCheck, NoMaxSizeCheck"
[05:56] <myconid> yea..
[05:56] <Veinor> kotau: does nothing.
[05:56] <kotau> buba whats up
[05:56] <myconid> in your screen section
[05:56] <Kudak> guys, i have a wierd problem
[05:56] <myconid> section "screen" ... then that option
[05:56] <buba> well
[05:56] <JFr3ak> inx-one: then i want something to kill the first process of gnome-settings-daemon with a script, or put the gnome-settings-daemon in other place (not sessions) to runs once and don't twice... do you understand ?
[05:56] <myconid> Kudak, do they make a cream for it?
[05:56] <kotau> Veinor what about your view menu?  is sidebar checked?
[05:57] <astro76> buba, we have no idea about ubuntu ultimate, it's not an official ubuntu distro, it's unsupported, especially as it uses automatix garbage
[05:57] <buba> in a newbie in ubuntu ...can you tell me if exists a manual or something
[05:57] <Veinor> kotau: I don't have a sidebar in my view menu.
[05:57] <JFr3ak> inx-one: is something complicate i think... LOL
[05:57] <Kudak> when i do a restart, my comp fail to recognize my network adapter, i can only solve it by shutting down the power and then turning it back on
[05:57] <buba> ohhh
[05:57] <astro76> buba, but if you want to look at official ubuntu docs, http://help.ubuntu.com
[05:57] <lee__> eh thats ATI with Catalyst Controllers installed using ATI  own downloads
[05:57] <munk_> myconid ok i did it now i restartx?
[05:57] <kotau> veinor and you have 2.18.1?
[05:57] <myconid> munk_: alt-ctrl-backspace
[05:57] <buba> okey..thanks
[05:57] <inx-one> JFr3ak: yes - look at e output of " pidof gnome-settings-daemon" - your script can choose the lower number and kill that
[05:57] <capo> whenever i enable the ATI proprietary drivers, i restart, and the ubuntu gui wont start up.  after the loading screen, my monitor loses video signal.  what should i do?
[05:57] <dwf_starband> bexamous: i selected x11 output and that worked
[05:57] <inx-one> JFr3ak: for example
[05:57] <dwf_starband> what does that mean?
[05:57] <munk_> ok ill brb
[05:57] <astro76> buba, and http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[05:57] <Veinor> kotau: yes. both the about menu and nautilus --version say so
[05:58] <lee__> capo
[05:58] <bexamous> x11 is 'slower' than xv
[05:58] <myconid> ubuntu slows down grand theft auto :(
[05:58] <buba> thanks guys
[05:58] <buba> bye
[05:58] <Kudak> no one knows ?
[05:58] <kotau> veinor you are using gnome desktop/metacity as your wm?
[05:58] <bexamous> xv is hardware accelerated
[05:58] <JFr3ak> inx-one: please give me an example...
[05:58] <munk_> myconid its the same..
[05:58] <Veinor> kotau: compiz, but it still happens with metacity
[05:58] <munk_> :(
[05:58] <astro76> Kudak, restarting from Linux or restarting from Windows causes this problem?
[05:58] <JohnSmith> For some reason I'm unable to connect to the hidden share on my XP machine. The username I have tried both "Administrator" and "ComputerName\Administrator" with the proper domain and password. Does anyone know of any problems connecting to hidden shares?
[05:59] <Veinor> and I'm running a GNOME base even on compiz
[05:59] <bexamous> if xv isn't working but x11 does its something screwy with the driver your using
[05:59] <dwf_starband> bexamous: ok, the video driver?
[05:59] <bexamous> nvidia?
[05:59] <KevlarSoul> Okay I installed the Alternate CD without a hitch, or so the percentage bars and reboot prompt told me....when I rebooted, grub is fine, but then black screen...is there a way I can get into the terminal and update the installation?
[05:59] <bexamous> or ati
[05:59] <dwf_starband> yes nvidia
[05:59] <Kudak> astro76: i didnt have this problem until installing linux, but after i do a reset(win OR linux) the only way to get the comp to recognize my network adapter again is to shutdown the power completely(removing the power cable)
[06:00] <tomato^> nyone here tried mysql clustering?
[06:00] <bexamous> i'd try installing the latest off nvidia's site
[06:00] <kotau> Veinor I'm at a loss man.  sorry.  try making a post?  Get rid of nautilus?
[06:00] <munk_> i dunno what to do anymore:(
[06:00] <bexamous> it'll be newer than whatever you're using now
[06:00] <Veinor> kotau: just posted on the forums.
[06:00] <cubesis> whats the off topic chat
[06:00] <KevlarSoul> Is there a way to get to terminal from the ALternate CD install screen, and get it to install the updates from online?
[06:01] <bexamous> no
[06:01] <myconid> monk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=468045 ?
[06:01] <inx-one> JFr3ak: for example ( using an app called mocp) kill $(pidof mocp | cut -f1)
[06:01] <astro76> Kudak, strange... this happens sometimes just from windows since it does a warm restart instead of a cold restart... what kind of card, PCI, USB, etc... ?
[06:01] <dwf_starband> ok ill try that, I did that a month or so ago, from their site.  Its worth doing again though?
[06:01] <kotau> Veinor wish my fps in DF was better in wine... Strike the Earth!
[06:01] <bexamous> ataully even with alternative cd it'll check for updates during the install
[06:01] <Kudak> astro76: motherboard build-in
[06:01] <allam> where i can find movies work in linux
[06:01] <cubesis> allam in your dvd drive?
[06:01] <JFr3ak> inx-one: HOOO i gonna try it relly thks a lot
[06:02] <inx-one> JFr3ak: :)
[06:02] <deeck> hello
[06:02] <astro76> allam, you can play the same movies as any other OS
[06:02] <cubesis> use dvd rip
[06:02] <deeck> i need help in beryl emerald plz
[06:02] <deeck>  i cant charge theme
[06:02] <deeck> :(
[06:02] <allam> any extension will work in linux??
[06:02] <astro76> !restricted | allam
[06:02] <ubotu> allam: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:02] <deeck> ubnutu
[06:03] <deeck> 7.04
[06:03] <Veinor> deeck: did you install emerald-theme-manager?
[06:03] <cubesis> whats the off topic chat name?
[06:03] <deeck> erm i have beryl settings  and emeral
[06:03] <astro76> !ot | cubesis
[06:03] <ubotu> cubesis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:03] <Kudak> are there drivers for Asus Nvidia Geforce N6200 for linux ???
[06:04] <munk_> it didnt work:(
[06:04] <bexamous> yea
[06:04] <bexamous> well i dunno wtf the N is but the 6200 cards i've used before
[06:04] <Kudak> bexamous: where can i download it from? couldnt find on nvidia website
[06:04] <bexamous> there is only one driver
[06:05] <munk_> :(((((((
[06:05] <bexamous> just go to driver downloads and there is a link for linux drivers
[06:05] <JFr3ak> inx-one: it works but have a bug LOL it kill all the process, don't just the first (or last) LOL
[06:05] <dwf_starband> Kudak: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[06:05] <Kudak> oh ok, thanks
[06:05] <deeck>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? <---- in terminal
[06:05] <deeck> :/
[06:05] <myconid> deeck, reboot.
[06:05] <astro76> !nvidia | Kudak
[06:05] <ubotu> Kudak: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:05] <deeck> reboot?
[06:05] <bexamous> yea that too ;)
[06:05] <Kudak> thanks alot guys
[06:05] <owner> hi all
[06:05] <astro76> deeck, do you have synaptic or update manager open?
[06:06] <inx-one> JFr3ak: it depends on the order and whether the first on is a parent process
[06:06] <owner> i got a question
[06:06] <deeck> isk man
[06:06] <owner> anyone running nessus here?
[06:06] <deeck> idk
[06:06] <deeck> :/
[06:06] <Kudak> dwf_starband: isnt the 6200 card from the 6 series?? u highlighted the 8's
[06:06] <inx-one> JFr3ak: try different fields for instance cut -f2 and so on
[06:06] <lee__> oops
[06:06] <deeck> any can speak me spanish?
[06:06] <deeck> :/
[06:06] <astro76> !es | deeck
[06:06] <ubotu> deeck: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:06] <owner> any nessus users here?
[06:06] <JFr3ak> inx-one: let me try... (i'm killing my calc LOL)
[06:06] <KevlarSoul> Okay I installed the Alternate CD without a hitch, or so the percentage bars and reboot prompt told me....when I rebooted, grub is fine, but then black screen...is there a way I can get into the terminal and update the installation? Is there a way to get to terminal from the ALternate CD install screen, and get it to install the updates from online?
[06:07] <myconid> deeck, reboot your computer.
[06:07] <dwf_starband> You can select what you want
[06:07] <deeck> kk
[06:07] <kotau> deek, input 'sudo shutdown -r now'
[06:07] <lee__> eh ok is there any support for direct x?
[06:07] <inx-one> JFr3ak: pstree can help you to see which are parent processes and so on
[06:07] <myconid> lee: crossover office
[06:07] <deeck> thanx for help mans
[06:07] <owner> ok guess not
[06:07] <deeck> :)
[06:07] <inx-one> JFr3ak: for instance  pstree | less
[06:07] <lee__> coolio eh where do i find it at lol
[06:07] <JFr3ak> inx-one: is so interant that command !!!
[06:08] <kotau> kevlarsoul try hitting ctrl+alt+1
[06:08] <bexamous> KevlarSoul: ctrl+alt+F1 for console?  or when grub comes up remove splash and stuff
[06:08] <inx-one> JFr3ak: interant??
[06:08] <allam> i cant edit the menulist file in ubuntu 7.04 to change the order of os when the computer start
[06:08] <Scunizi> KevlarSoul, if you have a black screen try Ctrl+alt+f2 to get to a terminal screen.  From there you should be able to fix whats ailing the sys... once you figure it out.
[06:08] <allam> it protected
[06:08] <lee__> is it ubunto or out side rexcource?
[06:08] <bexamous> allam you need to edit it as root user
[06:08] <myconid> why is ubuntu still based on dos :(
[06:08] <lee__> eh recource
[06:08] <allam> how?
[06:09] <JFr3ak> inx-one: i want say interesant (sorry my english) so interest..
[06:09] <Scunizi> KevlarSoul, you can use f1 or f2-6
[06:09] <kotau> myconid how is ubuntu in anyway DOS?
[06:09] <astro76> myconid, I don't know where to even start with that one :p
[06:09] <bruenig> myconid, what?
[06:09] <sillygoose> question can I install ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[06:09] <bexamous> sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.list from the terminal
[06:09] <kotau> sillygoose, yes
[06:09] <inx-one> myconid: that's like comparing a 100 lb weakling to a top athlete on ssteroids
[06:09] <owner> adios guys
[06:09] <sillygoose> kotau how is it done
[06:09] <munk_> heeelp::(((((
[06:09] <allam>  ok  this is what i do but i still unable to edit it
[06:09] <owner> munk with what?
[06:10] <kotau> sillygoose, first download the appropriate distro, then boot the cd.... profit?
[06:10] <lee__> oh an d the other  question is...how do i kick in my full 128 megs of ram on my video card lol
[06:10] <myconid> bruenig, i enjoy peoples responses.
[06:10] <astro76> allam, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:10] <bexamous> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:10] <bexamous> how bout that it'll give ou a gui app to edit with
[06:10] <kotau> myconid is really helpful I guess he gets to troll a little :)
[06:10] <myconid> inx-one, none t he less.. do we still need dos? windows me got rid of it..
[06:11] <owner> oh well
[06:11] <owner> bye
[06:11] <Kylie2004> I just added two new users with password to my linux ubuntu LAMP server by using the bash command line.  Now I'm trying to let them login to the website via SSL as the site is setup that way.  It won't let them login.... doesn't accept them as user/password.  what am I missing
[06:11] <JFr3ak> inx-one: i think that the problem is that pidof returns for example: 9814 9810 then when i run: kill $(pidof gcalctool | cut -f2) kill both...
[06:11] <Lanken> is there an easy way to return my Ubuntu installation to the original configuration?
[06:11] <sillygoose> really thats it  what about the disk part
[06:11] <myconid> Kylie2004, when you say, 'the website', what does that mean exactly.
[06:11] <cafuego> Kylie2004: is that with libapache2-mod-auth-pam?
[06:11] <inx-one> myconid: I am currently ircing from a live CD with no X
[06:11] <myconid> Lanken, burn a cd, install?
[06:11] <KevlarSoul>  Is there an issue with 64bit systems and 8800 GTX?
[06:11] <kotau> sillygoose you need to burn the disk with the ISO you download
[06:11] <cafuego> KevlarSoul: Give me one of each and I will check for you.
[06:12] <inx-one> myconid: I have made a live CD that does all kinds of stuff on the console
[06:12] <bexamous> KevlarSoul: you need the latest drivers
[06:12] <KevlarSoul> Scunzi, once in terminal, can I get updates from the internet?
[06:12] <sillygoose> ok
[06:12] <astro76> Lanken, what kind of configuration are we talking... you could create a new user and start from scratch for user configuration
[06:12] <Lanken> I'm living behing a proxy for the first time, and I found that the best way to solve problem X from behind a proxy was to just install everything that might be helpful, and then try getting it to work.
[06:12] <myconid> inx-one, jur l33tr than i.
[06:12] <kotau> !getubuntu
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <lee__> oh that remind me...the dell deminsion 5150 is a 64 bit system isnt it?
[06:12] <KevlarSoul> can I update from terminal?
[06:12] <Scunizi> KevlarSoul, sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:12] <Lanken> I know, for instance, that Deluge works for me as a torrent client, but that several others will not.
[06:12] <Kylie2004> myconid....well I have a domain https://<mydomain>/britttanywordpress... trying to setu up wowrdpress
[06:12] <inx-one> JFr3ak: yes you notice that one number comes before the other...
[06:12] <Lanken> astro76: I was considering that.
[06:13] <myconid> Kylie2004, so.. it somehow made sense to you.. that you could add users to linux.. and have them login to workdpress?
[06:13] <JFr3ak> inx-one: yes... exist other command that just returns the first for example ??
[06:13] <inx-one> JFr3ak: so check if one is needed by the other ( hence my suggestion of pstree)
[06:13] <Lanken> astro76: what about the packages...is there some way to remove all the packages I've installed (the ones that weren't there initially)
[06:13] <Les_Caesars> Does Anybody have any idea how I change the history cap on kickoff from 0 to something higher than 0?
[06:13] <KevlarSoul> Scunizi and that shold work? from terminal ?
[06:13] <miraage> When I startx -- :1, the new X server lives on C-F9 instead of C-F8 where I expected it to be. How can this be fixed?
[06:13] <astro76> Lanken, no automatic way, no
[06:13] <Lanken> myconid: doesn't a full formatting and installation seem a bit excessive?
[06:13] <inx-one> JFr3ak: that's what the pipe to "cut" was for :)
[06:13] <Kylie2004> myconid... well yeah... I still struggle with all of the steps that I forget are not automatic.  what am I missing possibly
[06:14] <myconid> Lanken, you asked how to put it back to original though... its prefectly valid way
[06:14] <Lanken> astro76: what about a list...is there a list of packages somewhere that I can use...I could do it manually.
[06:14] <vmlinuz`> hey
[06:14] <myconid> Kylie2004, you need to create workdpress users in the WP admin page.. NOT on the server.
[06:14] <inx-one> JFr3ak: try reading about cut - it's a cool command
[06:14] <myconid> Kylie2004, WP doesnt use system users.
[06:14] <vmlinuz`> everytime i try to install a perl module, it gives an error.
[06:14] <allam> bexamous:thanks man
[06:14] <JFr3ak> inx-one: ok, i gonna do it
[06:14] <myconid> How do I apt-get to 7.10 from 7.04
[06:14] <Lanken> myconid: yes, quite. I'd thought of that too, and I hoped there was some better way.
[06:14] <lee__> gentoo?
[06:15] <ashdragon> Can anyone help me with getting my dvd burner running? It is a SATA LH-20A1L running under ubuntu 7.04 (32 bit)
[06:15] <lee__> ah a bistro
[06:15] <myconid> Lanken, 'better' ? whats wrong with a clean install.
[06:15] <JFr3ak> inx-one: i feel i'm close your script is a light...
[06:15] <Tronyx> can anyone tell me how to permanantly umount a partition?  i am dual booting and it shows my hard drive which is fine since I am currently using it to access MP3S and other data but it also mounts the recovery partition
[06:15] <inx-one> myconid:  http://inx.maincontent.net <-- early example of my live CD
[06:15] <vmlinuz`> everytime i try to install a perl module, it gives an error. http://pastebin.com/m388db756
[06:15] <myconid> ashdragon, what does 'running' mean?
[06:15] <KevlarSoul> would the sudo apt-get update the Nvidia drivers?!?
[06:15] <vmlinuz`> check pls
[06:15] <inx-one> myconid: if you are interested
[06:15] <Kylie2004> myconid, I know that, I actually did a new install in a folder that I chown'ed to their linux account.  and isntalled a new copy of wordpress into each of their respective folders.... what I'm not able to do is get past the SSL login.  I haven't even made it to the wordpress login yet
[06:15] <AndyCR> KevlarSoul: Yes, it would, making sure it also kept the kernel in sync with it
[06:16] <KevlarSoul> ncie
[06:16] <myconid> Kylie2004, What is this 'ssl login' you speak of?
[06:16] <KevlarSoul> nice
[06:16] <KevlarSoul> off to try it
[06:16] <KevlarSoul> thanks
[06:16] <lee__> it means hta toyur pc grew legs
[06:16] <marko-ubuntu> myconid-  the command for upgrading is update-manager -d
[06:16] <AndyCR> Whenever I get a new kernel I don't have to worry that it'll break x thanks to it
[06:16] <astro76> Tronyx, you can add it to fstab with the noauto option
[06:16] <Kudak> how do i exit Ubuntu graphic mode into console mode only ??
[06:16] <myconid> marko: your the man now dog.
[06:16] <ashdragon> hi
[06:16] <kotau> www.ytmnd.com
[06:17] <astro76> Kudak, ctrl+alt+F1 through F6 are consoles
[06:17] <lee__> the only thing I truely hate about ubuntu is the split bar
[06:17] <Kylie2004> myconnid I simple get a dialog that is the SSL dialog box with a username and password which allows the user to get access to the https:<mydomain.com>
[06:17] <inx-one> Kudak: ctrl-alt-F1 or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop ( if you want to kill X)
[06:17] <Tronyx> sorry astro76, I'm not that far along.  I can edit the fstab but I am a bit worries about umounting something that's going to mess up a dual-boot install
[06:17] <Gruelius>  anyone know about ADSL central filters?
[06:18] <inx-one> !anyone
[06:18] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:18] <astro76> Tronyx, mounting a windows partition or not wouldn't hurt anything
[06:19] <Tronyx> astro76, would you mind if i PMed you?
[06:19] <Kylie2004> myconid, doesn't apache use the linux username/password for authentication?   or do I need to add their username/password to some config file first
[06:19] <vmlinuz`> everytime i try to install a perl module, it gives an error. http://pastebin.com/m388db756
[06:19] <astro76> Tronyx, yes, keep it in the channel please :)
[06:19] <Tronyx> :) alright
[06:20] <Tronyx> ok, so i run sudo nano /etc/fstab and there's a whole lot of business going on there which I am not terribly familiar with
[06:20] <myconidx> Tronyx, what are you TRYING to do?
[06:20] <astro76> myconidx, not automatically mount a windows recovery partition
[06:20] <Tronyx> keep gutsy from mounting my NTFS recovery partition to my ubuntu desktop
[06:21] <Kylie2004> myconid, is it possible that I need to add them to some group as www-data or apachegroup, etc.
[06:21] <myconidx> google gentoo automount
[06:21] <Tronyx> I don't mind having one of the partitions as it holds a lot of my media so I am still transferring that over but the recovery partition exists on the same hard drive which is where it gets confusing for me
[06:21] <astro76> Tronyx, in fstab, you should be able to find the line containing the mount point of the recovery partition, delete that line (or comment out by placing a # in the first column)
[06:22] <Juancabrito> hi, can anybody here help me with ProFTPD. I'm using XAMPP
[06:22] <myconidx> tronyx, google gentoo automount
[06:22] <rawake> wheres a good place to buy computer cases? i need something equiped enough to hold like 12 hard drives
[06:22] <myconidx> rawake, newegg
[06:22] <myconidx> and why on earth 12?
[06:22] <astro76> myconidx, can we not recommend gentoo specific help in here? thanks
[06:22] <myconidx> astro76, whut?
[06:23] <astro76> myconidx, you may have noticed this is an Ubuntu support channel :)
[06:23] <lee__> eh your on the wrong server for needing help with gentoo
[06:23] <myconidx> astro76, and you have bad english... but none the less.. are you making a point?
[06:23] <Juancabrito> hi, can anybody here help me with ProFTPD. I'm using XAMPP
[06:23] <kotau> no need to get all testicular fellas
[06:24] <Juancabrito> testicular, lol
[06:24] <goodboyCerberus> !anyone | Juancabrito
[06:24] <ubotu> Juancabrito: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:24] <kotau> oh did I say testicular? I meant testy
[06:24] <astro76> myconidx, 1) my grammar is perfect, 2) you are confusing users by giving them links to gentoo help, what happens when they come back saying emerge isn't working?
[06:24] <myconidx> Juancabrito, probably not.. but if you ask a question someone might answer your question.
[06:24] <kotau> astro, send them to #gentoo?
[06:25] <astro76> kotau, for ubuntu help?
[06:25] <myconidx> astro76, so you are passive agressively pointing out the fact I typo'd 'gentoo' instead of 'ubuntu'?  Is that the issue?
[06:25] <Juancabrito> myconidx: I can't, I need someone to help me with the diagnose in the first place
[06:25] <EnigmaX> Does anyone here use Opera, or does everyone use FF?
[06:25] <lee__> hmm sounds like the person that that made th links are at fault lol not us
[06:25] <myconidx> Juancabrito, do you have SOME inkling of a problem that you would like to share?
[06:26] <kotau> oh umm i'm staying out of this, pardon me.
[06:26] <astro76> myconidx, you could have said it was a typo right away
[06:26] <Tronyx> if i may say, i thought you were directing me to gentoo and I had absolutely no idea why.  if it's all the same can we just move beyond this?
[06:26] <myconidx> astro76, and since you saw it, and I didnt realize I made a mistake, you could pointed out said error.
[06:26] <EnigmaX> tom_d: How did you get the flash plugin to work with FF?
[06:26] <tom_d> astro76, myconidx: cant we just be friends. why the hostitlity
[06:26] <EnigmaX> I can't get it to recognize the plugin to save my life
[06:26] <myconidx> I am trying to evade 5 police while I get this car back to the chop shop and get it resprayed.
[06:26] <lee__> FF? is that finasl fantasy?
[06:26] <goodboyCerberus> lol
[06:27] <astro76> tom_d, there is none
[06:27] <tom_d> EnigmaX: dl the plugin untar it in your homedir and run the script
[06:27] <jj420> i got a berylr question
[06:27] <marko-ubuntu> !flash
[06:27] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:27] <tom_d> EnigmaX: i think its easier to get working if you don't install it system wide
[06:27] <Juancabrito> I'm using XAMPP, ProFTPD doesn't work and I don't know how to create and use an ftp account with it (making it work first of course)
[06:27] <myconidx> "New engine and paint $100!  The cops wont recognize you now"
[06:27] <EnigmaX> tom_d: I tried that, but I couldn't get it to work
[06:27] <myconidx> Juancabrito, why are you running XAMPP?
[06:27] <tom_d> EnigmaX: if you try to do it again and describe what you did, I can help you
[06:27] <astro76> myconidx, I did point out the error! :P
[06:27] <EnigmaX> maybe I didn't download the correct tar?
[06:27] <tom_d> EnigmaX: also make sure you have the latest ff
[06:27] <myconidx> Juancabrito, download Ubuntu server, when you install it pick a LAMP server, and be off and merry.
[06:27] <Juancabrito> myconidx: because I have no success with LAMP
[06:27] <cubesis> hey everyone, i have 7.04 and can't get a creative soundblaster usb sound device to work anyone have a suggestion
[06:28] <EnigmaX> tom_d:  Where is a good place to get the tar?
[06:28] <myconidx> Juancabrito, so this is a reoccuring problem then?
[06:28] <jj420> im following this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beryl/ATI/Feisty and where im tring to get the key repository the site wont connect
[06:28] <Juancabrito> myconidx: that didn't work
[06:28] <myconidx> cubesis, usb sound ftl.  does lsusb list it?
[06:28] <IronWolff> Hi, is any mexican there 0.o?
[06:28] <tom_d> enigmax: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/static/Linux/ShockwaveFlash/English.html
[06:28] <myconidx> Juancabrito, There are three kinds of issues we address here.. a. hardware, b. software, and c. users.. usually one of those is broken.
[06:28] <cubesis> hold on i will have to check, sorry im n00b even though i have been on ubuntu forever :)
[06:28] <lee__> erg.. i really need the hit the programming books
[06:28] <myconidx> Juancabrito, I'll let you address deciding which is broken.
[06:28] <astro76> !es | IronWolff
[06:28] <ubotu> IronWolff: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:29] <IronWolff> astro
[06:29] <jj420> anyone?
[06:29] <IronWolff> where r u from?
[06:29] <dwf_starband> myconidx: If i rember corectly I can be in a graphical enviroment to install the nvidia driver, is there  a way besides rebooting, to exit and get a command prompt?
[06:29] <EnigmaX> tom_d: and save it where?  I'm very new to Linux, which probably why I haven't been able to get it to work yet
[06:29] <astro76> !offtopic | IronWolff
[06:29] <ubotu> IronWolff: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:29] <myconidx> dwf: alt+ctrl + f(something? 1-8)
[06:29] <myconidx> /etc/init.d/gdm sotp
[06:29] <cubesis> myconidx i dunno but it is detected
[06:29] <tom_d> EnigmaX you can msg me if you need help, just untar it in your homedir and follow the instructions
[06:29] <cubesis> and i switch it to that as a sound device
[06:29] <IronWolff> hi
[06:29] <cubesis> how to i check if its listed?
[06:30] <myconidx> cubesis, soooo... it was detected.. thats good.. does it show up in lsusb?
[06:30] <dwf_starband> ok thank you
[06:30] <cubesis> i haven't used lsusb
[06:30] <IronWolff> who knows a good mmorpg as conquer 4 linux ?
[06:30] <myconidx> Where do I find the ferrari looking car in GTA3:SA
[06:30] <astro76> heh
[06:30] <jj420> im following this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beryl/ATI/Feisty and where im tring to get the key repository the site wont connect
[06:30] <cubesis> how do i check?
[06:30] <EnigmaX> tom_d: Send you a message
[06:30] <jj420> can someone tell me where i can get the repository at?
[06:30] <lee__> FINAL FANTASY 11 lol but, unfortantley you nedd a ps2 lol
[06:31] <EnigmaX> #sent
[06:31] <Juancabrito> myconidx: I don't know what kind of problem I have. First, using LAMP, php didn't work, know with xampp mysql doesn't work (doesn't matter right now) neither does proftpd
[06:31] <Tronyx> astro76 you still there?
[06:31] <tom_d> EnigmaX: /msg tom_d
[06:31] <Juancabrito> now*
[06:31] <myconid> Juancabrito, can I suggest you set XAMPP up on Windows and go from there?
[06:31] <cubesis> myconid, where i do i check lsusb?
[06:31] <myconid> cubesis, ALT-F2, xterm, lsusb
[06:32] <cubesis> yeah its listed
[06:32] <EnigmaX> did you get that one tom?
[06:32] <jj420> help?
[06:32] <cubesis> could it be that my onboard sound is broken and this won't even work?
[06:32] <Juancabrito> myconid: don't think so, I'm trying to use linux for a server to uninstall XAMPP from my windows machine
[06:32] <Tronyx> so, I am staring at my fstab but I don't know what to do which is particularly frustrating as you just told me.  the mount point for the recovery partition is /media/hda2 but i don't see anything like that in the fstab
[06:32] <lee__> Oh some said that my running the ATI drivers with the catalyst was a big nono.... can some one explain to me why , I havnt ahd any issues
[06:32] <cubesis> cause i know forsure that onboard sound isn't working
[06:32] <myconid> cubesis, system->pref->sounds
[06:32] <myconid> does it get lsited tehre?
[06:33] <myconid> Juancabrito, i suggest you buy a second cheap desktop to use as a development machine, and run XAMPP under Windows.
[06:33] <cubesis> yeah and i select it as playback
[06:33] <cubesis> i tried the playback testing and its stuck
[06:33] <lee__> ahh
[06:33] <Tronyx> does it have anything to do with the partition i want to have mounted and the recovery partition i do not want to mount being on the same hard drive?
[06:33] <myconid> Juancabrito, I promise you; however; that PHP works on Gentoo server when you check the LAMP server option.
[06:33] <EnigmaX> tom_d:  i'm assuming my message did not go through?
[06:33] <lee__> the right channel lol
[06:34] <tom_d> EnigmaX yep, something didn't work
[06:34] <Juancabrito> myconid: that sound better
[06:34] <EnigmaX> tom_d:  I saved it to my "Downloads" directory in my homedir
[06:34] <astro76> Tronyx, I would have expected them both to be in fstab since they are both mounted, is the other one there?
[06:34] <jj420> im following this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beryl/ATI/Feisty and where im tring to get the key repository the site wont connect
[06:34] <lee__> I was wondering did I jump the gun..when I installed the ATI  drivers from the ati down load..Ihave catylyst and evry thing I hae had no known issues
[06:34] <EnigmaX> tom_d: I extracted it
[06:35] <EnigmaX> tom_d: and now have the .gz file
[06:35] <tom_d> EnigmaX: open a terminal and cd to the directory, then chmod +x the install script and run it
[06:35] <gogeta> jj420 protery ari drivers and beryl dont work
[06:35] <tom_d> gunzip file.gz
[06:35] <myconid> Juancabrito, whhy do you want linux?
[06:35] <gogeta> ati
[06:35] <lee__> save for only 32 megs of ram showing of 128
[06:35] <jj420> i have the patched ati drivers
[06:35] <EnigmaX> tom_d: I'm not sure how to do that
[06:35] <tom_d> EnigmaX, but you can in the future use tar xvzf file.tar.gz ... you need to follow the instructions on the flash website, it tells you how to do all this
[06:36] <lee__> what is beryl?
[06:36] <myconid> lee: search for it on  youtube
[06:36] <gogeta> tom_d or just use the gui
[06:36] <cubesis> myconid it works now thanks, i guess me doing it by double clicking the sound icon didn't switch the device like i thought it was doing
[06:36] <myconid> cubesis, awesome!
[06:36] <cubesis> that must just be for the controls not the config
[06:36] <cubesis> u know what i am talking about?
[06:36] <tom_d> gogeta: this is the flash plug in, if you do it with the gui, soemthings gonna eff up imho
[06:36] <cubesis> man thanks a lot
[06:37] <gogeta> flash is easly installed lol
[06:37] <gogeta> install deb from apt-get
[06:37] <tom_d> gogeta: you must live in a perfect world.
[06:37] <gogeta> :)
[06:37] <myconid> linux w/op flash for pornotube isnt a world i want to live in
[06:37] <tom_d> gogeta: yes, but you can't get the one that fullscreens from apt
[06:37] <gogeta> i have gusty beta
[06:37] <gogeta> it does
[06:37] <gogeta> hehe
[06:37] <tom_d> gogeta: again, perfect world
[06:37] <EnigmaX> tom_d:  I get the following error:
[06:37] <cubesis> flash worked fine for me, whats porntube it sounds cool
[06:37] <EnigmaX> tom_d:  ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[06:37] <EnigmaX>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[06:38] <Tronyx> astro76, am I looking for /dev/hda2  UUID-423B-2BDF   /media/hda2 ?
[06:38] <Juancabrito> myconid: I've been told linux is better for a good FREE server
[06:38] <tom_d> EnigmaX: download the 32 bit version
[06:38] <gogeta> heh
[06:38] <gogeta> porntube sounds fun
[06:38] <astro76> EnigmaX, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[06:38] <tom_d> gogeta: why else would i n eed the fullscreen flash plugin
[06:38] <myconid> Juancabrito, And what does 'free' have to do with this?  You can pickup a p2-3ghz off craigslist for $100 with Windows XP on it
[06:38] <astro76> Tronyx, if /media/hda2 is your recovery partition as you said... you found it?
[06:38] <jj420> gogeta i used the drivers installed from here http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[06:38] <gogeta> youtube doesent have any porn lol
[06:39] <gogeta> all your pornneeds are in other formats :)
[06:39] <Tronyx> I think so, let me try this and get back to you >.<
[06:39] <tom_d> i sometimes look at amateurish girls dancing on youtube. it has a voyeuristic appeal
[06:39] <cubesis> yeah whats pornotube
[06:39] <cubesis> sounds kewl to me
[06:39] <cubesis> lol tom_d half of them look like they are 15
[06:39] <riotkittie> argh. can we just shut up about porn already. kthx.
[06:39] <gogeta> LOL
[06:39] <goodboyCerberus> google it.... if you're over 18... and:
[06:39] <goodboyCerberus> !offtopic
[06:39] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:39] <titanix88> hello
[06:39] <cubesis> ohyeah this isn't ot
[06:39] <cubesis> oops
[06:39] <gogeta> porn funds the internet buddy
[06:40] <Aesia> hi everyone
[06:40] <gogeta> lol
[06:40] <EnigmaX> tom_d:  I'm sorry Tom, it's been a long day at work, it's the JRE plugin I'm not able to get working
[06:40] <cubesis> well thanks for help on the sound card myconid
[06:40] <nickrud> goodboy, Cerberus!
[06:40] <myconid> cubesis, my pleasure
[06:40] <EnigmaX> tom_d:  I was able to figure out the flash a couple days ago
[06:40] <EnigmaX> but no luck with the JRE plugin
[06:40] <tom_d> EnigmaX: wellp, try following the instructions on JRE... theyre basically equally pesky
[06:40] <temper> how to give username & password in a single line in SSH (password should not be prompt)
[06:40] <gogeta> i just used automatix on my old install
[06:40] <jpastore> Is there any reason why I can't burn dvd-r's?
[06:40] <tom_d> EnigmaX: you can get it out of apt.. open up synaptic and find it
[06:40] <riotkittie> porn may fund the internet but i dont think anybody comes into linux support channels to hear you lonely boys wax poetic about it. argh.
[06:40] <gogeta> simpl and easy
[06:41] <cubesis> jpastore the only reason would be not having a dvd writer
[06:41] <gogeta> not needed on gusty gibben thow all there
[06:41] <cubesis> and the correct configuration
[06:41] <jpastore> cubesis, yea...I have a dvd+-rw dl
[06:41] <Kylie2004> what's the command to restart apache2
[06:41] <ArtVandalae> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart?
[06:41] <myconid> temper, use ssh keys.
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> Kylie2004: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[06:41] <gogeta> no?
[06:41] <gogeta> lol
[06:41] <Aesia> how can i create trash icon on my desktop /enlightenment
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> ArtVandalae: (invoke-rc.d is preferred, for reasons I don't entirely understand)
[06:42] <jpastore> cubesis, I was reading that some people seem to have problems with trying to burn -r and I'm looking for a possible fix....like has anyone tried nero linux 3?
[06:42] <cubesis> well i know dvd rip can get you the avi that u can make an iso and then shouldn't u just be able to burn with reg burning app
[06:42] <tom_d> thats weird.. i thought most girls liked porn
[06:42] <usser> jpastore: nero 3 is a perversion
[06:42] <usser> on linux
[06:42] <Tronyx> got it, thanks astro76!
[06:42] <ArtVandalae> Guys how old are we? This isn't the sort of channel to be talking about that stuff
[06:42] <gogeta> i never had issues with nero on any platform
[06:42] <myconid> ArtVandalae, are you asking a/s/l?
[06:42] <myconid> ew.
[06:42] <gogeta> others peoples issues dont always mean its gonna affect your nstall
[06:42] <riotkittie> omg.
[06:43] <tom_d> sorry.
[06:43] <usser> gogeta: its just that why use it on linux when theres better free alternatives
[06:43] <epswing> how do i find out what version of java i have installed?  what's this gij...
[06:43] <temper> how to use ssh keys
[06:43] <jpastore> usser, well if it works and the tools that came with ubuntu don't...I don't care if it humps its sister as long it gets the job done
[06:43] <gogeta> i used it a long time ago
[06:43] <usser> epswing: java -version should do
[06:43] <myconid> temper, a. google.  c. profit
[06:43] <cubesis> hey man i seen an article in search that someone else couldn't burn dvd-r unless they had root priveledge
[06:43] <gogeta> befor it was easy to change a booksettings on the free ones
[06:43] <usser> jpastore: what doesnt work?
[06:43] <epswing> woohoo, 1.4.2.  oldschool...
[06:43] <arooni> anyone here using virtualbox?  i have a winxp VM with a hard drive of 3GB.  is there *anyway* to expand the size of this drive *without* completely reinstalling XP?
[06:44] <cubesis> but it was back from 5.04
[06:44] <astro76> temper, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto#head-1ff9e61cfd81e9f741920b6920af8a85f7bddb30
[06:44] <jpastore> usser, burning an .img with k3b, copying a data dvd with gnome-baker...
[06:44] <astro76> cubesis, so it's not applicable to the current version
[06:44] <joshin247> anyone here familiar with finepoint (tabletpc) on linux
[06:44] <cubesis>  dvd+rw-tools dvdrtools nautilus-cd-burner libnautilus-burn3 libnautilus-burn-dev
[06:45] <joshin247> particularly fpit drivers
[06:45] <cubesis> that might be current :)
[06:45] <joshin247> setserial configurations
[06:45] <Aesia> how can i create trash icon on my desktop /enlightenment
[06:45] <q_a_z_steve> dapper kicks out any CD I put in the drive, sometimes in the middle of reading/ripping/copying. WHY?
[06:46] <joshin247> ...
[06:46] <cubesis> instead of a dvd+r try a dvd-r
[06:47] <jpastore> cubesis, Couldn't find package libnautilus-burn3
[06:47] <jpastore>  everything else is the newest ver
[06:47] <tom_d> q_a_z_steve: have you confirmed this is a software problem?
[06:47] <cubesis> i think thats k3b
[06:47] <joshin247> is there noone else?
[06:47] <q_a_z_steve> tom_d, doesn't happen in windows XP, nor vista.
[06:47] <jpastore> cubesis, k3b package was installed as k3b per synaptic
[06:47] <joshin247> ewwww.....orc blood
[06:47] <myconid> sounds like hardware
[06:47] <shiny_> ok dear
[06:48] <shiny_> sorry
[06:48] <joshin247> everywhere
[06:48] <tom_d> q_a_z_steve: maybe the driver for your drive isn't so hot.. is your drive well supported?
[06:48] <joshin247> pip rench
[06:48] <tom_d> q_a_z_steve, does this happen with audio cds or all cds or what
[06:48] <joshin247> oven
[06:48] <joshin247> mesquite
[06:48] <q_a_z_steve> joshin247, can linux tell me how much, and how fast, maximum RAM for my motherboard can be?
[06:49] <tom_d> q_a_z_steve, also, what software are you using to read/rip/play cds
[06:49] <q_a_z_steve> tom_d, same deal with stamped, burned, data, audio.
[06:49] <joshin247> ...i note sure but you could check teh manufagtures website
[06:49] <lee__> WOW!!! i hav all my vids and pics that i can see on  my msn space lol
[06:49] <Kudak> why when i do a warm reboot it fails to recognize my network adapter, only when i do a cold reboot it recognize it again
[06:49] <joshin247> or just google the mobo model number
[06:49] <q_a_z_steve> I have sound Juicer auto pop, not like I want to rip...
[06:50] <tom_d> q_a_z_steve: try burning a cd with cdrecord
[06:50] <q_a_z_steve> joshin247, can lspci or anything tell me the num?
[06:50] <q_a_z_steve> tom_d, not trying to burn, just want to keep drive door closed around toddler.
[06:51] <lee__> wize idea] 
[06:51] <joshin247> i'm a noob too, but if you know the model of the computer i'm assumming it's a dell, compaq , whatever., google the model number
[06:51] <astro76> Kudak, but it still doesn't work after restarting linux though right? because that is a cold reboot really...
[06:51] <Ethik> Alright
[06:51] <titanix88> hey guys, i am using a non brand chinese edge modem but ubuntu does not detect it. Also my GEForce mx4000 card does not work with it! wvdialconf can't find anything and asks to use setserial.How can i use setserial to solve this(maybe irq problem i guess)?
[06:51] <astro76> Kudak, does it work after a shutdown from either OS, or did you say you had to pull the power cord?
[06:51] <tom_d> q_a_z_steve: to keep the cd tray closed if someone pushes the button?
[06:51] <Ethik> Im a linux idiot so please bare with me
[06:51] <q_a_z_steve> joshin247, gateway direct, sorry. Not like it's impossible, just don't want to have to open again...
[06:51] <lee__> it should say on th face plate of the pc
[06:51] <Ethik> Is there a certain way to install things on linux?
[06:51] <tom_d> q_a_z_steve: you could mount the drive, that would keep it closed.
[06:52] <Kudak> astro76: ONLY when i pull the power cord it works, nothing else i tried worked
[06:52] <joshin247> the model of the system should be on back of tower usually
[06:52] <Ethik> or is it the same as windows (Run an exe)
[06:52] <lee__> that too on a sticker
[06:52] <q_a_z_steve> tom_d eventually yes. I thought it did mount if it was going to copy data off the drive?
[06:52] <astro76> Kudak, so even a shutdown command causes it to not work? sounds like a hardware issue then
[06:52] <lee__> also dells have a sticker on th botom
[06:53] <lee__> or under side of the casing
[06:53] <titanix88> Can anyone help me?
[06:53] <q_a_z_steve> lee__, gateway direct, each system may have different HDware, I'll have to open the case if not find probing software.
[06:53] <lee__> IE dells have a face plate for if its  a Demension series ect,
[06:53] <Ethik> I need help too
[06:53] <q_a_z_steve> !ask titanix88
[06:53] <gogeta> !question
[06:54] <ePax> !ask
[06:54] <goodboyCerberus> !anyone
[06:54] <astro76> !synaptic | Ethik|LinuxDoesn
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask titanix88 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:54] <ubotu> Ethik|LinuxDoesn: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:54] <gogeta> !ask
[06:54] <titanix88> q_a_z_steve: i already did ask!
[06:54] <goodboyCerberus> Ethik: Linux doesn't have executables per se, but nowadays package managers pretty much act like them...
[06:54] <tom_d> q_a_z_steve, to test out the drive make an iso and burn it.. mkisofs -i nameofiso.iso /directoryofdata
[06:55] <goodboyCerberus> go through the repositories before downloading files off the net
[06:55] <jonathan_> hi there
[06:55] <jonathan_> I want to login my session as a root
[06:55] <tom_d> q_a_z_steve, then do cdrecord -v speed=drivespeed dev=x,x,x -data youriso.iso
[06:55] <gogeta> well titen
[06:55] <jonathan_> but how?
[06:55] <gogeta> whers the question
[06:55] <lee__> reboot the sytem
[06:55] <Ethik|LinuxNoob> anyway
[06:55] <tom_d> q_a_z_steve, to read data from a cd the cd doesn't have to be mounted. to explore a filesystem it does
[06:55] <Ethik|LinuxNoob> got disconnected
[06:55] <gogeta> lol lee
[06:55] <astro76> !sudo | jonathan_
[06:55] <ubotu> jonathan_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:55] <lee__> it should tell ya right there
[06:55] <gogeta> reboot
[06:55] <Kylie2004> do I need to reboot my Ubuntu lamp server after i have added new users so that they can authenticate via HTTPS/SSL?
[06:55] <Ethik|LinuxNoob> Will someone please help me? =(
[06:55] <astro76> !synaptic | Ethik|LinuxNoob
[06:55] <ubotu> Ethik|LinuxNoob: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:56] <gogeta> !ask
[06:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:56] <tom_d> q_a_z_steve, i think the problem might lie in your choice of software
[06:56] <goodboyCerberus> Ethik: Linux doesn't have executables per se, but nowadays package managers pretty much act like them, use Synaptic
[06:56] <Kudak> how do i exit from Ubuntu graphic mode to console mode cleanly instead of doing Alt+Ctrl+Backspace ???
[06:56] <Kylie2004> I resttarted my apache2 and that didn't work.
[06:56] <lee__> ohh coolio you tuby works lol
[06:56] <titanix88> ubuntu does not detect my non brand chinese edge modem. wvdialconf does not find it, it asks to use setserial. How do i do that?
[06:56] <marko-ubuntu> Kudak-  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[06:56] <titanix88> :-(
[06:56] <gogeta> kudak ctrl alt f1
[06:56] <trpr> goodboyCerberus: what are you talking about :P
[06:57] <gogeta> will open a text term
[06:57] <astro76> Kudak, switch to console first with ctrl+alt+F1 ~ F6, then if you want X actually shutdown, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:57] <Kudak> gogeta: if i do ctrl alt f1 the graphic mode will still be running in memory
[06:57] <goodboyCerberus> Ethik's question "are there /exe's in Linux?"
[06:57] <goodboyCerberus> .*
[06:57] <gogeta> then the other way
[06:57] <Kudak> astro76: this is wierd, no "cleaner" way to do it ?
[06:57] <trpr> goodboyCerberus: the answer is yes. there just aren't file extensions to mark them apart
[06:57] <Kylie2004> I've taken wordpress out of the equation.  now I'm trying to allow to user to login to my main home page which is  SSL/HTTP.  it won't let me in if I use there username/passord, but Ican login
[06:57] <gogeta> sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:57] <lee__> q_a_z_steve reboot you machine the display will tell you what your system is
[06:58] <gogeta> will close it
[06:58] <astro76> Kudak, how cleaner can it get than switching to the text console which you want to be in, and one command to shutdown X?
[06:58] <Kudak> gogeta: what exactly is invoke-rc.d ? any guide about it ?
[06:58] <astro76> Kudak, basically executes /etc/init.d/ scripts
[06:58] <Kudak> astro76: like in redhat .....logout to console mode lol
[06:58] <gogeta> rc.d is like windows startup programs
[06:58] <astro76> Kudak, same as sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:58] <titanix88> q_a_z_steve: u know how to use setserial?
[06:58] <lee__> no
[06:58] <gogeta> that tells ubuntu not to srstart it on close
[06:59] <gogeta> like if x crashes
[06:59] <astro76> Kudak, yeah debian based systems come with all runlevels set the same, unlike redhat's 3 for nox and 5 for x, you can edit the runlevels though
[06:59] <trpr> goodboyCerberus: everything in /usr/bin and any other bin dir you run across is filled with executables. we're just not in the habit of calling them exes ;)
[06:59] <Kylie2004> anyone know how I can figuer out my https login errors. firefox reterns invalid password for the new users i created
[06:59] <jewbilee> earl: I got the error.  Its Error 17: Cannont mount Selected Partition
[06:59] <ubuntu_> k i did sudo gparted and get this when i try to put it ovr there Error while copying to "/media/disk/home/doug".  You do not have permissions to write to this folder. any ideas?
[06:59] <goodboyCerberus> trpr: ah sorry, I'm a n00b too
[07:00] <gogeta> beter wor is like serivace programs
[07:00] <Aesia> how to create icons on my desktop /enlightenment
[07:00] <Kylie2004> please help me anyone....
[07:00] <titanix88> Anyone here using non brand chinese edge/gprs modem with ubuntu?:-(
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Aesia,  use a program like idesk, or other 'desktop launcher' tool.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> !info idesk
[07:01] <ubotu> idesk: Program to show icons on the desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.5-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 118 kB, installed size 364 kB
[07:01] <Aesia> thx mate
[07:01] <lee__> eh i just drag and drop icons on to th dt
[07:02] <dwf_starband> I forgot his name, but thank you to the guy that told me to install the new nvidia drivers, that fixed my problem.  Thanks
[07:02] <titanix88> Dr_willis: do you know how to use setserial?
[07:02] <lee__> lol
[07:03] <ubuntu_>  k i did sudo gparted and get this when i try to put it ovr there Error while copying to "/media/disk/home/doug".  You do not have permissions to write to this folder. any ideas
[07:03] <twoshadetod> how difficult is it to set up asterisk on ubuntu?
[07:04] <jonathan_> anybody know how to login as a root?
[07:05] <trpr> goodboyCerberus: its ok. im just uptight computer geek ;) there are more similarities than differences between various platforms
[07:05] <gogeta> lol
[07:05] <gogeta> trpr linux is all the same in the end
[07:05] <Dr_willis> titanix88,  i aint messed with serial ports in ages. :) i dont recall needing setserial back then either
[07:05] <goodboyCerberus> trpr: I should just keep quiet unless I'm absolutely sure about something  :-/
[07:06] <skilly> who can tell me what 'wiki' exactly mean
[07:06] <gogeta> trpr jut diffrent styles
[07:06] <gogeta> trpr ubuntu is the easest to use and keep up so its currently in the number 1 spot
[07:07] <gogeta> but thats what there aiming for
[07:07] <goodboyCerberus> skilly: etymology? Hawaiian word for fast. The word "wiki" is a shorter form of wiki wiki.
[07:07] <ePax> jonathan_: Do you want to login as root in terminal or? Use su
[07:07] <Nutubuntu> skilly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
[07:08] <IowaDave> Evolution just hiccuped while starting up, and lost track of about 3/4 of my inbox. Anything I can do to recover?
[07:09] <blue_> Is it illegal to use Adobe Flash Player Plugin in the United States?
[07:09] <blue_> I know Windows Media and stuff like that is.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> blue_,  i imagine its all debateable. :)
[07:10] <blue_> Well, I want to follow the law
[07:10] <Dr_willis> I dont refall hearing that flash player plugin was illeagle..
[07:10] <gogeta> lol no
[07:10] <blue_> And I was just wondering if Adobe Flash Player is illegal
[07:10] <Ethik> wow
[07:10] <Ethik> Linux is so much better
[07:10] <Ethik> =3
[07:10] <joueur> hi, i am from Czech..
[07:10] <gogeta> how it is it illagle when they relese the softwhere
[07:10] <titanix88> Dr_willis: it is about an usb edge modem.
[07:10] <gogeta> LOL\
[07:10] <trpr> gogeta: i was actually referring to the similarities and differences in various kernels in general.. not the different ways to package that kernel as a distribution
[07:10] <blue_> I don't know, I'm just wondering because I have never been able to hear music from myspace or anything like that
[07:11] <gogeta> for free
[07:11] <blue_> And it prompted me to download flash player
[07:11] <blue_> so i did
[07:11] <blue_> and it didnt tell me it was illegal or anything
[07:11] <gogeta> its not
[07:11] <blue_> Now I can hear the music
[07:11] <blue_> with Real Player + Flash combo
[07:11] <twoshadetod> how difficult is it to set up asterisk on ubuntu?
[07:11] <Ahadiel> blue_, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:11] <Ethik> /server irc.deltaanime.net
[07:11] <Dr_willis> !asterisk
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asterisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <Montaro> apt-get install asterix
[07:11] <Ethik> meh
[07:11] <gogeta> its just closed source so its under non-free
[07:11] <Montaro> asterisk*
[07:11] <Ethik> that doesnt work on gaim
[07:11] <Dr_willis> !asterix
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asterix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <Dr_willis> I give up. :)
[07:12] <trpr> gogeta: anyhow. you should come over to #ubuntu-offtopic. our topic isn't exactly support related
[07:12] <blue_> oh, so non-free can be closed-source
[07:12] <nickrud> !info asterisk
[07:12] <ubotu> asterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.16~dfsg-1ubuntu3.1 (feisty), package size 160 kB, installed size 428 kB
[07:12] <gogeta> i was talking abought flash
[07:12] <marko-ubuntu> jonathaN  to activete root acount sudo passwd root     to deactivete root acount: sudo root -l    : to login as root, logout from ubuntu go to settings, and there somwhere u will found a check button to let root acces
[07:12] <Montaro> http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Linux+Ubuntu
[07:13] <twoshadetod> Montaro, awsome, thanks
[07:13] <q_a_z_steve> hey nickrud
[07:13] <nickrud> hey q_a_z_steve
[07:13] <gogeta> !pidgen
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pidgen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <blue_> Do you understand what I mean though?  The codecs and things for WMA and WMV and MP3 are all illegal in US - I wanted to make sure that Flash was not in this group of illegal things.
[07:13] <gogeta> heh
[07:13] <KevlarSoul> What is the command to start terminal? after grub? I started the recovery version of the kernel, but I coudlnt get internet access that way when I tried to sudo apt-get update
[07:13] <blue_> Maybe im paranoid ><
[07:13] <nickrud> !info pidgin gutsy
[07:13] <MystaMax> hello, how can I find out where java6-jdk is installed? I'm trying to install netbeans, and its asking for it?
[07:13] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[07:13] <gogeta> lol wma wmv illagle not relly
[07:13] <Dr_willis> blue_,  I agree with the paranoid bit. :0
[07:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:13] <blue_> haha
[07:14] <blue_> so should i delete it?
[07:14] <blue_> ^_^
[07:14] <Montaro> twoshadetod: pleasure
[07:14] <gogeta> the wma and wmv support in linux was coded from scrach
[07:14] <blue_> yeah
[07:14] <blue_> but it's illegal
[07:14] <blue_> due to patent rights
[07:14] <emovocals> Hey Folks, I have a couple Questions. Firstly I am running an Acer Aspire 3680, I don't know how to add repositories (uni, and multiverse) and I can't get my wifi card running because I am stupid. I just left Vista for Feisty but I think I am about to go back to Vista
[07:14] <jimmy815a> Hi all I just installed Ubuntu dual boot but now I am ready to remove windows completely.  do I just delete all the files and use the other partition as a drive or can that partition be removed?
[07:14] <Dr_willis> of course depending on the direction of the wind. the RIAA feels you are a lawbreaker if you so much as Listen to your legally bought cd with another person in the room....
[07:14] <blue_> can anyone tell me if flash is also illegal?
[07:14] <gogeta> well ms hasent sued anyone for using wmv in linux
[07:14] <nickrud> !info netbeans5.5
[07:15] <ubotu> netbeans5.5: NetBeans IDE for development of applications in Java. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.5-0.59 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 172 kB
[07:15] <gogeta> if they did it would be a big uprore
[07:15] <gogeta> and flash is not illage adobe makes it
[07:15] <Dr_willis> blue_,  the flash company supplies the binaries.. so ive NEVER heard of flash being called illeagle.
[07:15] <preaction> and MS never will: they said they will not pursue patent infringement claims against single, non-commercial users
[07:15] <gogeta> and maes the linux version
[07:15] <blue_> thank you ^_^
[07:15] <nickrud> MystaMax: netbeans is in the repos, you can get it with apt-get
[07:15] <myconid> flash is not illegal
[07:15] <Dr_willis> flash can be a Annoyance however. :)
[07:16] <trpr> honestly.. law suits arriving for installing a codec. what fud :P
[07:16] <preaction> flash is also an open standard, albiet controlled by Adobe. they publish specs on it
[07:16] <emovocals> Anyone have any ideas?
[07:16] <gogeta> even if they tryed the wmv is illage it probly would not hold up\
[07:16] <blue_> So is Real Player what is allowing me to play all these audio formats and things I wasn't able to get earlier?
[07:16] <Ahadiel> emaconline, on?
[07:16] <blue_> or is that Flash
[07:16] <jimmy815a> flash
[07:16] <myconid> blue_,  what app are they playing in
[07:16] <gogeta> being the code base it totaly diffrent
[07:16] <dwf_starband> I lied when i said the new nvidia driver fixed my problems, I just got a frozen pink screen, when starting to watch live tv in mythtv
[07:16] <emovocals> Just convert it man
[07:16] <Nutubuntu> Any ideas why Firefox / Swiftweasel would repeatedly crash - strace shows it dying thus: stat64("/home/nutubuntu/.mozilla/swiftweasel/init.d/K*", 0xbfe5900c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[07:16] <blue_> well, I went to youtube and was able to watch/hear things there; and myspace also
[07:16] <nickrud> emovocals: system->admin->software sources , tick universe & multiverse, then sudo apt-get update
[07:17] <myconid> blue_, thats flash
[07:17] <emovocals> I don't have that option Nick
[07:17] <blue_> and flash is not illegal
[07:17] <blue_> sweet
[07:17] <blue_> <3
[07:17] <myconid> why would it be illegal?
[07:17] <blue_> i dont know
[07:17] <nickrud> emovocals: what's your desktop (if any?)
[07:17] <blue_> everything else is
[07:17] <gogeta> its not
[07:17] <jimmy815a> im on a 64 bit machine and have to run firefox32 but it crashes a lot
[07:17] <MystaMax> nickrud: thx for the reply, but I'm trying to install a beta version, and its asking for the path to jdk? can I use "locate" to find it?
[07:17] <myconid> nothing esle is illegal
[07:17] <gogeta> blue knothing else is
[07:17] <blue_> ?!?!
[07:17] <Dr_willis> blue_,  are you sure its legal for you to be in here? you did pay your IRC tax's ?
[07:17] <emovocals> What do you mean, what is my desktop?
[07:17] <trpr> lol
[07:17] <blue_> lol
[07:18] <emovocals> I am a relatively new Linux user, so again, I am rather stupid
[07:18] <blue_> no im not entirely sure if its legal for me to be here
[07:18] <blue_> =O
[07:18] <gogeta> blue weven decss linux was ruled legil is the usa
[07:18] <Kudak> anyone knows of a good Guide Library for Linux/Ubuntu that goes from basic to advanced and has various topics ??
[07:18] <Dr_willis> LOL has been patented by MS.. please refrain from using it..
[07:18] <nickrud> MystaMax: it's under /usr/lib ; depending on which you have activated with update-alternatives --config java, it'll be a subdir under that
[07:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:18] <myconid> blue_, you better leave before you find out.
[07:18] <marko-ubuntu> myconid-  isnt strong crypto software illigal in us anymore ?
[07:18] <gogeta> blue the dvd decrypter
[07:18] <myconid> marko-ubuntu, it ever was.
[07:18] <gogeta> no
[07:18] <marko-ubuntu> isee myconid :)
[07:18] <preaction> marko-ubuntu, strong crypto is restricted on export
[07:18] <Nutubuntu> marko-ubuntu, strong crypto was always legal in US; the issue was "exporting" it
[07:19] <IowaDave> blue_: Blue is the patented color of the Microsoft Screen of Death. Please change colors.  ;-)
[07:19] <nickrud> emovocals: that is, if you don't have software sources (and therefor not gnome) are you using kde, or just a terminal, for example
[07:19] <Nutubuntu> (even if it was imported strong crypto to begin with)
[07:19] <emovocals> I am using Gnome I am assuming
[07:19] <MystaMax> nickrud: ok, I installed sun-java6-jdk using aptitude. so i'll look and see if I find it...
[07:19] <gogeta> blue and lets face it in the usa everything is illagle
[07:20] <gogeta> blue in the eyes of big greddy corps
[07:20] <Ethik> hey
[07:20] <myconid> what country are you tools from?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> You are not legally allowed to discuss the legality of such things... please stop.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:20] <gogeta> blue lol
[07:20] <nickrud> emovocals: then you should have, under the menu on the top, the system->admin->software sources dialog
[07:20] <gogeta> LOL
[07:20] <nickrud> *have the
[07:20] <q_a_z_steve> nickrud, what's a solid way to mount a cdrom? I get dmesg errors with mine...
[07:20] <Ethik> Is there a way to host my own website using a linux program?
[07:20] <gogeta> free speech whats that im from the usa
[07:20] <myconid> Ethik, no
[07:20] <gogeta> LOL
[07:20] <nickrud> emovocals: and use my nick in your replies, they're hard to follow otherwise
[07:20] <myconid> Ethik, tjhat would be illegal
[07:20] <Dr_willis> Ethik,  Huh?
[07:20] <Ethik> No
[07:21] <gogeta> fair use no way
[07:21] <Ethik> I dont mean get a domain name
[07:21] <MystaMax> nickrud: found it, its in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-jvm. Thanks for your help
[07:21] <myconid> websites on linux are illegal.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Ethik,  you can install a web server.. and have your own stuff :)
[07:21] <Ethik> O_O
[07:21] <preaction> free speech costs about $400 an hour, the same as a really good lawyer
[07:21] <myconid> hah
[07:21] <gogeta> hehe
[07:21] <m0m> Hi Woldtux !
[07:21] <Ethik> (10:21:08 PM) myconid: websites on linux are illegal.
[07:21] <Ethik> (10:21:08 PM) myconid: websites on linux are illegal.
[07:21] <Ethik> wut?
[07:21] <emovocals> Yes Nick, but there are no options to select Uni or Multiverse
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Ethik,  theres a 'running gag' going on as to whats legal to use under linux. :)
[07:21] <JohnRobert> ?
[07:21] <Nutubuntu> Ethik, myconid is joking
[07:21] <myconid> Ethik, you didnt know?
[07:21] <gogeta> if m$ had there way it would be
[07:21] <emovocals> and then there is still the stupid Wifi Card
[07:21] <Ethik> lol
[07:21] <JohnRobert> ms do have their way
[07:22] <nickrud> q_a_z_steve: I just stick in a cd; I used to have to use sudo mount /dev/<device> -t iso9660 /mnt
[07:22] <JohnRobert> generally
[07:22] <gogeta> lol
[07:22] <gogeta> naa linux would be illagle
[07:22] <KevlarSoul> What is the command to start terminal? after grub? I started the recovery version of the kernel, but I coudlnt get internet access that way when I tried to sudo apt-get update
[07:22] <Nutubuntu> ns are pretty powerful too. and os.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> The RIAA came out saying that  Ripping a cd to your ipod is 'theft' and aparently playing a radio in public is considered illeagle in England.. :)
[07:22] <blue_> No, but in all seriousness the codecs for windows media, mp3, and dvd playback are all illegal =) that's only reason I was asking about Flash - because it's sort of related =O
[07:22] <moDumass> hey all, does anyone know why gimp cant open jpegs from olympus digital cameras?
[07:22] <blue_> I'm a newb, don't yell at me *sobs*
[07:22] <nickrud> emovocals: they should be in parentheses at the end , I think one's community supported and the other is just below
[07:22] <Ethik> What I wanted to do is run a web server, then when someone puts my ip:port in a web browser they get a web page
[07:22] <gogeta> willis yea i herd that story
[07:22] <gogeta> dumb shit
[07:22] <m0m> When? gogeta
[07:22] <emovocals> No, there is nothing like that.
[07:22] <gogeta> it was on slashdot
[07:22] <myconid> Ethik, sudo apt-get install apache2
[07:22] <IowaDave> blue_: nobody's yelling
[07:22] <Dr_willis> blue_,  the legality of that is a bit of a grey area..  it all depends on the specific wording of the licsneing.
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | gogeta
[07:22] <ubotu> gogeta: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:23] <Nutubuntu> moDumass, since when? gimp has been fine with my jpgs from my Olympus cam
[07:23] <trpr> Dr_willis: cpyright law can't get anymore ridiculous. things will come to a head eventually ;)
[07:23] <q_a_z_steve> nickrud, are you using any software to handle finding a new CD? Where do I change to not use Sound Juicer?
[07:23] <moDumass> nutubuntu, when i try i get this plugin failed to open file error
[07:23] <Dr_willis> trpr,  as of right now - i am NOT buying any more Music cd's at all. :)
[07:23] <gogeta> i have been doing that for years
[07:23] <preaction> blue_, no, in all seriousness the libs for mp3 playing and DVD playing are not illegal. mp3 encoding (recording) violates patents, wmv/wma playback violates patents (but MS has said they won't sue), and flash is completely legal
[07:23] <gogeta> when this wole mess started
[07:23] <Dr_willis> trpr,  wellperhaps if Weird AL comes out with a new one...
[07:23] <Nutubuntu> moDumass, which plugin ? (does the error tell you?)
[07:23] <xion344> anyone can give me a fast repository for ubuntu
[07:23] <moDumass> nutubuntu, seems its got someghing to do with libexif
[07:23] <emovocals> I mean, No Nick. there is nothing like that
[07:23] <xion344> thinking of upgrading to gutsy
[07:23] <myconid> fast suposetory ?
[07:24] <GreySim> q_a_z_steve: Removable Drives and Media Preferences.
[07:24] <Dr_willis> xion344,  depends on your location.
[07:24] <GreySim> q_a_z_steve: Might be called something different in Feisty, but something along those lines.
[07:24] <blue_> preaction:  I basically said that in my newbie terms =\
[07:24] <gogeta> backup meda you own to whatever format is legil in the usa but the greddy corps try to say otherwise
[07:24] <moDumass> nutubuntu, no thats all it says but google came up with libexif, and no one on #gimp is talkin
[07:24] <q_a_z_steve> dapper, but yeah I found it.
[07:24] <nickrud> emovocals: it'll be something like "community maintained open source software" and "software restricted by copyright.." (you're in the right place if you see something about Canonical-supported
[07:24] <open-gl> hi guys does linux have any firewall and antivirus program
[07:24] <Javid> is there a tablet PC edition?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  but the act of actually doing the backup is illeagle. it seems..
[07:24] <emovocals> Nick: Give me a moment
[07:24] <preaction> blue_, no you said that mp3 and dvd were illegal, they're not
[07:25] <Nutubuntu> moDumass, okay, libexif is needed for jpgs, is it installed?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  or the tools needed to do so... or .. ect. :)
[07:25] <GreySim> open-gl: You might want to look at Firestarter for firewall. I know there is anti-virus, but I don't know which program(s) it might be.
[07:25] <gogeta> yea
[07:25] <emovocals> Hmm, I see Thanx
[07:25] <blue_> preaction:  then why can't I play mp3's and DVD's?
[07:25] <nickrud> q_a_z_steve: for that, it's system-prefs-removable drives & media
[07:25] <emovocals> Any ideas about the Wireless Card?
[07:25] <gogeta> you can
[07:25] <blue_> not without downloading illegal codecs
[07:25] <Nutubuntu> open-gl, you could look at clamAV
[07:25] <marko-ubuntu> firestarter is pretty buggy
[07:25] <gogeta> you just need to installthe codecs
[07:25] <q_a_z_steve> GreySim, I have a few things checked in there, but it doesn't seem to matter, CD's always kick out after a while...
[07:25] <Dr_willis> there are legally licensed dvd player programs out for linux. :) (well i think 1 at least)
[07:25] <JDStone> did gutsy come out yet?
[07:25] <m0m> Clam GreySim ?
[07:25] <nickrud> emovocals: no. I am wireless, but not knowledgeable about it. have you done the following?
[07:25] <open-gl> does linux need a antivirus or firewall or is it secured
[07:25] <blue_> really?
[07:26] <Ethik> myconid after I get apache2 what do I do? I havent used Linux much
[07:26] <nickrud> !wireless | emovocals
[07:26] <ubotu> emovocals: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:26] <trpr> open-gl: there is no current need for linux anti-virus. there is only one linux virus in existence and it was created to demonstrate what an unfriendly environment linux is towards virii
[07:26] <gogeta> yep
[07:26] <preaction> blue_, legal to use does not mean legally unencumbered. they're not distributed by default because they're not free (as in speech / not as in beer)
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> !virus | Ethik
[07:26] <Dr_willis> as for mp3. no clue there.
[07:26] <ubotu> Ethik: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:26] <JDStone> err, guess not
[07:26] <chetnick> anyone use wine with CS?
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> !firewall | Ethik
[07:26] <ubotu> Ethik: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:26] <chetnick> or CS with wine?
[07:26] <gogeta> for mp3s you need to install lame
[07:26] <mynyml> has anyone had any luck running IE7 standalone on wine?
[07:26] <q_a_z_steve> mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[07:26] <gogeta> and a dvd should auto download the nedded
[07:26] <q_a_z_steve> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
[07:26] <q_a_z_steve>        missing codepage or other error
[07:26] <q_a_z_steve>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[07:27] <trpr> open-gl: that said, i think some company sells linux anti-virus. its a ridiculous notion though.
[07:27] <Ethik> tonyyarusso: I wasnt the one looking for a firewall D:
[07:27] <Dr_willis> q_a_z_steve,  give it the filesystem type?
[07:27] <q_a_z_steve>        dmesg | tail  or so
[07:27] <Ethik> I am looking for an easy way to set up a web server
[07:27] <KevlarSoul> How do I turn on internet access via terminal?
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> Ethik: sorry, my mind is apparently broken.  :S
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> open-gl: See what I directed at him.
[07:27] <Ethik> lol no prob =3
[07:27] <nickrud> q_a_z_steve: three lines is just under the limit, no more paste. and do the dmesg | tail -30 , see what it says about the cdrom
[07:27] <gogeta> blue your thinking a few years back when decss was under a lefil battel and dvds on linux where quetenble but big greddy lost
[07:27] <GreySim> Can't help with the CD problem. No clue.
[07:27] <q_a_z_steve> nickrud, sorry, trying to be careful
[07:28] <gogeta> and eamed legil
[07:28] <blue_> well why do I keep reading all this literature about all the multimedia is illegal except for Fluendo and Real Player
[07:28] <marko-ubuntu> Ethik-  look at part5 in http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704
[07:28] <Dr_willis> I do recall that a % of the cost of a DVD player. goes to pay for the DVD licensing..  seems illegle to me to make me pay the same fee over and over..
[07:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:28] <blue_> I just wanna follow the laws =\
[07:28] <gogeta> blue if you relly have issus there is a pay dvd player for linux
[07:28] <Dr_willis> RealPlayer is Legal? :)
[07:28] <Montaro> get vlc
[07:28] <disappearedng> hello!
[07:28] <blue_> Yea!
[07:28] <nickrud> blue_: depends on where you live, mostly. Different countries, different laws. Fluendo bought licenses, that's why it costs you
[07:28] <blue_> real player is totally legal :D
[07:28] <Javid> is there a tablet PC edition of Feisty?
[07:28] <GreySim> But, I'm actually in here for a problem of my own. In Gutsy, since installing the beta, and all the way through today's current updates, Firefox will not run. It pops open the window, then closes it again before displaying anything. Happens in safe mode too. Any ideas what's wrong? I couldn't find a bug, but I don't know Launchpad that well...
[07:29] <gogeta> blue everything is legil if is not its not on the apt-get
[07:29] <Dr_willis> blue_,   i wonder why they have a EULA then. :)  breaking it would be illeagle..
[07:29] <trpr> blue_: its also allot of other things, none of them i can mention in here ;p
[07:29] <q_a_z_steve> nickrud, what can I tell you without paste?
[07:29] <blue_> lol @trpr
[07:29] <GreySim> q_a_z_steve: You can paste in an online pastebin, and link to it.
[07:29] <nickrud> !paste | q_a_z_steve (paste it there)
[07:29] <ubotu> q_a_z_steve (paste it there): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:29] <Dr_willis> of coruse up untill a few yrs back. GIF files were of questionable legality
[07:29] <open-gl> ok thanks guy. didnt know linux was so good that it didnt need a antivirus or a firewall
[07:30] <gogeta> open-gl ubuntu has a firewall
[07:30] <Nutubuntu> GreySim, run it from a terminal? or strace firefox-bin ? see what is making it die
[07:30] <gogeta> open-gl built in as for antivired there no real ones for linux
[07:30] <nickrud> open-gl: as much a matter as not having a big enough user base to make it cost effective for the big boys
[07:30] <trpr> open-gl: heh. you still need a firewall. ;)
[07:30] <q_a_z_steve> !tablet | Javid
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <open-gl> no i dont need one
[07:30] <xTheGoat121x> Evening everyone
[07:30] <gogeta> nickrud they do rootkit sometimes but you need some kind of server like ftp or apachie and a old ersion and weak passwords for it to even happon
[07:30] <GreySim> Nutubuntu: Oh, I'd run it from a terminal for safe mode, and the answer was right there in front of me. I just didn't check the terminal.
[07:31] <Javid> that is exactly what I needed to know, THANKS q_a_z_steve
[07:31] <gogeta> home user not gonna
[07:31] <blue_> one other dumb question for anyone who wants to laugh:  is macromedia flash and adobe flash the same thing?
[07:31] <open-gl> i just read everybody saying linux doesnt need it
[07:31] <GreySim> (gecko:5761): Pango-WARNING **: failed to create cairo scaled font, expect ugly output. the offending font is 'Arial 12'
[07:31] <GreySim> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:31] <xTheGoat121x> Is it possible to set up ubuntu to have 2 different sessions, one running GNOME and the other xfce?
[07:31] <nickrud> gogeta: yeah, I do run chkrootkit regularly :)
[07:31] <Nutubuntu> GreySim ... I get the impression Firefox is picky about fonts
[07:31] <preaction> open-gl, they said it doesn't need antivirus, not that it doesn't need a firewall. you already have a firewall built-in. you just need a tool to configure it properly
[07:31] <trpr> open-gl: i am somebody. who is your everybody? :P
[07:31] <open-gl> so does this mean linux cant get spywares and adwares also
[07:31] <Dr_willis> open-gl,  not in the sence that windows can get them
[07:32] <Dr_willis> a program could still be 'adware' by design.
[07:32] <q_a_z_steve> open-gl, never under estimate the power of a user.
[07:32] <gogeta> open-gl there is no spyware
[07:32] <Nutubuntu> blue_, adobe bought macromedia, I think, some while back
[07:32] <blue_> nutubuntu: thanks :)
[07:32] <nickrud> open-gl: you're biggest danger is you installing a program that does that. If you stick with the ubuntu repos, the chances of that are nearly zero (only heard of that happening once on a debian repo)
[07:32] <linxuz3r> 9 days to go
[07:33] <GreySim> Nutubuntu: Hmm. Never had a problem using the same set of fonts in Feisty. I just copied my ~/.fonts directory right over. Guess it's time to file a bug?
[07:33] <gogeta> open-gl worst linux has is rootkits and as i said you would need some kind of server setup
[07:33] <gogeta> open-gl home ser thers no vireses or known spyware
[07:33] <q_a_z_steve> http://q_a_z_steve.pastebin.org/4519
[07:34] <xTheGoat121x> *sigh*
[07:34] <Nutubuntu> GreySim, IDK what the story is with Firefox. My experience seems to be foreign to most people, but I've found it very unstable. It's been crashing for me with great regularity, since back in Dapper, on two different boxes.
[07:34] <blue_> << I'm totally new to Linux, I'm like a 5 hour and counting user - but I was wondering about the 6 month update cycle for these releases.  Is it easy to upgrade?  Like will it notify you when you need to do so?
[07:34] <marko-ubuntu> rkhunter is a nice cli app searching rootkits
[07:34] <open-gl> ok cool
[07:34] <q_a_z_steve> Javid, try lifehacker.
[07:34] <blue_> To the next version of Ubuntu that is*
[07:34] <q_a_z_steve> Javid, for tablet linux
[07:34] <gogeta> open-gl but as everyone else said as long as you stick to offical packages and dont take binarys from unknown/untrusted sources your chances of a rootkit is 0
[07:34] <Javid> okie
[07:34] <nickrud> q_a_z_steve: that's exactly what you need to show people, but I don't grok it, sorry
[07:35] <funy_girl> l
[07:35] <q_a_z_steve> nickrud, come again?
[07:35] <lee__> What is the difference betqween pci express an pci express x16?
[07:35] <kahrytan> blue_, Don't upgrade please. Just back up /home/user and reinstall. And Version numbers tell you it's release date.
[07:35] <nickrud> q_a_z_steve: try googling the first line, after hdc:
[07:35] <Nutubuntu> GreySim, in fact, it's Firefox that I'm here about tonight: Firefox / Swiftweasel repeatedly crash - strace shows it dying thus: stat64("/home/nutubuntu/.mozilla/swiftweasel/init.d/K*", 0xbfe5900c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[07:35] <gogeta> i would say x16 would be faster
[07:35] <gogeta> lol
[07:35] <Misosaki> blue_, not sure if it'd notify, but upgrading is easy
[07:35] <xTheGoat121x> blue_ - honestly, I haven't had many problems with updating, at least not yet.
[07:35] <lee__> s usin pci express 16
[07:35] <Veinor> blue_ theoretically, it's a few button presses to upgrade. In practice, you might encounter problems though.
[07:36] <nickrud> q_a_z_steve: that is good troubleshooting information, that's what the helpers here love to see.
[07:36] <blue_> I see
[07:36] <q_a_z_steve> schweet
[07:36] <Nutubuntu> Veinor, the difference between theory and practice is larger in practice than it is in theory
[07:36] <xTheGoat121x> Is it possible to have multiple sessions, one with xfce and the other with gnome?
[07:36] <blue_> So mainly everyone backs up the data and reinstalls?
[07:36] <goodboyCerberus> Nutubuntu: Yogi Berra?
[07:36] <lee__> quaz did it work?
[07:36] <marko-ubuntu> lee_ pci E 16 have sexteen serial chanels
[07:36] <GreySim> Nutubuntu: Huh. No idea. I've never had problems with Firefox that weren't from either me overloading it with extensions, or my current problem in Gutsy.
[07:36] <trpr> blue_: i upgrade. like Veinor said... sometimes people experience issues
[07:36] <kahrytan> blue_, Upgraders make the repositories painfully slow.
[07:36] <lee__> eh is that good or bad?
[07:36] <Nutubuntu> goodboyCerberus, Chris Date, I think. Probably not original to him, though.
[07:37] <trpr> kahrytan: your logic for advising people not to upgrade is flawless
[07:37] <q_a_z_steve> !distupgrade
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distupgrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <lee__> or is that in  64 bit system?
[07:37] <q_a_z_steve> !distribution_upgrade
[07:37] <blue_> Well, this is a pretty sweet OS.  I can't believe all the things it has to offer.
[07:37] <ChaosR> I have a problem, I installed kubuntu, but it didn't work properly, so I tried to go back to windows, and on windows, I deleted the /home partition, but now, for some reason, grub gives an error 17 (i'm on the kubuntu live cd right now, and already tried grub-install, but it says on every single partition that it can't find /boot)
[07:37] <kahrytan> trpr, It really does make repositories so slow. Makes it impossible for some to get simple updates.
[07:38] <blue_> What is the scoop on the future of gaming for Linux - will games start making them compatible or is that way off in the future?
[07:38] <Nutubuntu> GreySim, theoretically running in safe mode eliminates the extensions issue ... but Ff still crashed for me. Am I running into the gap between theory and practice there, do you think? I don't know enough about safe mode ...
[07:38] <q_a_z_steve> nickrud, what's the easiest way to run a distribution upgrade, for our friend blue_ here?
[07:38] <lee__> you can say that agin, I just wish for some good video editing software grr
[07:38] <Flannel> blue_: Some already have actually.
[07:38] <nickrud> q_a_z_steve: that's an audio cd?
[07:38] <Flannel> !games | blue_
[07:38] <ubotu> blue_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:38] <ChaosR> how would I be able to solve this and still be able to boot both linux and windows, I can't really understand that deleting the /home partition causes grub to error
[07:38] <q_a_z_steve> nickrud, this one is a stamped CD, yeah
[07:38] <trpr> kahrytan: i take it you have never done a network install? none of my installs have begun with a cd. bandwidth issues are a poor excuse for not using apt
[07:38] <kahrytan> blue_, and check the WINE Appdb for Windows compatbility with WINE.
[07:38] <GreySim> Nutubuntu: I don't know much about safe mode either. I just know it means that it's a system problem, and not a profile problem.
[07:39] <nickrud> q_a_z_steve: you don't mount audio cds, that's the problem
[07:39] <Nutubuntu> :/   Yeah ... that was my take too, GreySim
[07:39] <blue_> WINE, yes I've heard some about that and will definitely check that out - and thanks for that site Flannel
[07:39] <q_a_z_steve> nickrud, so it's kicking out because it's not a data?
[07:39] <lee__> no, live cd is the cd is a cd that allows you to do things like partioning and such and then also coe on line
[07:39] <kahrytan> trpr,  dont bring bandwidth into it.
[07:39] <q_a_z_steve> can't I just get the thing to stay closed, until I push a button?
[07:39] <blue_> also I was reading some things earlier about this rotating cube desktop deal - something along the lines of "Beryl" or something - anyone know about htat?
[07:39] <nickrud> q_a_z_steve: kicking out? Do you have that issue with data cds?
[07:40] <xion344> whats the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu
[07:40] <q_a_z_steve> let me try my stamped feisty live, one sec
[07:40] <lee__> what is "beryl"?
[07:40] <Nutubuntu> xion344, one lousy little letter ;P
[07:40] <prakriti> blue_: compiz-fusion
[07:40] <rawake> what do i need to satisfy this error? configure: error: The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old.  Make sure it
[07:40] <q_a_z_steve> !beryl
[07:40] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:40] <blue_> Exactly
[07:40] <blue_> Compiz-Fusion
[07:40] <blue_> Do you know much about it?
[07:40] <Ethik> hey
[07:40] <Ethik> so I got apache2
[07:40] <Nutubuntu> xion344, xubuntu runs xfce as its window manager, I believe is the correct term
[07:40] <kahrytan> blue_, Version 7.04 (Feisty) 7  is for '07 and .04 is for April, forth month of the year. Gutsy is 7.10. October is tenth month of the year.
[07:40] <Flannel> blue_: no, not just wine.  There are native versions out there.  Quake, Unreal Tournament, Americas Army, plenty of real native linux games.
[07:40] <Ethik> what do I do now? XD
[07:40] <lee__> ooo i gots gl lol
[07:40] <goodboyCerberus> Compiz Fusion is the re-merge of Beryl and Compiz
[07:40] <lee__> where do i get baryl at?
[07:41] <q_a_z_steve> lee__, sudo apt-get install beryl
[07:41] <lee__> or cmpiz?
[07:41] <blue_> Wow.
[07:41] <xion344> whats xfce
[07:41] <trpr> kahrytan: oh, its not the bandwidth? the repos are essentially web servers. i still don't understand why you advocate people stay away from apt ...
[07:41] <kahrytan> blue_, and plenty of linux games based on open source Quake engine.
[07:41] <nickrud> kahrytan: a useful trick: use a mirror that's not one of the ubuntu country ones. Like find a university or other institution, it's much faster
[07:41] <q_a_z_steve> nickrud, kicks that out too, should I dmesg again?
[07:41] <lee__> which do u recomend?
[07:41] <GreySim> Nutubuntu: I've seen references to Firefox crashing depending on what GTK theme you're using. That *might* be worth playing around with. I know I'm about to be.
[07:41] <blue_> Sweet, do these games include online play?
[07:41] <gogeta> blue one thing lnux doeslack is gaming thow but cedega does run the majer ones
[07:41] <xTheGoat121x> Is it possible to have multiple sessions, one running GNOME and the other running XFCE?
[07:41] <gogeta> blue some do
[07:42] <lee__> planning to run video eding software
[07:42] <nickrud> q_a_z_steve: yes, and keep both to show. I'm not real good with hardware
[07:42] <blue_> this is good news :D
[07:42] <riotkittie> a spider has chased me away from my desktop :(
[07:42] <Nutubuntu> xion344, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=xfce&btnG=Google+Search
[07:42] <blue_> so I can basically throw Windows away
[07:42] <kahrytan> nickrud, now if dist-upgrade did that as well.
[07:42] <ChaosR> ok, let's try it this way, how can I get grub to work again without reinstalling
[07:42] <lee__> and its not the light stuff, i am talik like adobie 6.0
[07:42] <blue_> except for the mp3 and dvd lameness
[07:42] <xion344> is xfce better than gnome
[07:42] <nickrud> kahrytan: I've been using mirrors.kernel.org for everything, including dist-upgrades
[07:42] <gogeta> blue lol well cedga/wine are far from perfect alot of games apps will not run
[07:42] <kahrytan> blue_, check wine appdb first.
[07:42] <gogeta> blue for gaming windows is still #1
[07:42] <geezone> Can anyone help with a boot question?????
[07:42] <GreySim> xTheGoat121x: Yes, though if you mean at the same time, it gets complicated, but it is possible. As for how, I can't help you, but it is definitely possible.
[07:43] <gogeta> unfortanly
[07:43] <riotkittie> xfce is better than gnome if you think it is. or if you have lowend hardware.
[07:43] <Nutubuntu> !anyone
[07:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:43] <blue_> but that can change soon right?
[07:43] <blue_> or at least at some point
[07:43] <gogeta> blue hopefully
[07:43] <Misosaki> blue_: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[07:43] <blue_> because Dell is starting to offer Ubuntu on their machines
[07:43] <ChaosR> !grub
[07:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:43] <blue_> thanks misosaki
[07:43] <kahrytan> nickrud, could be suggestion for Apt. If main one fails to connect, try alternates.? or does it do it yet?
[07:43] <gogeta> blue on the aop side of things linux pretty mutch has eerything
[07:43] <gogeta> app
[07:44] <xTheGoat121x> GreySim, thanks... I'm not looking to run them simultaneously, I just want to be able to boot into XFCE for certain instances, and then into Gnome for other things.
[07:44] <lee__> that was fast lol
[07:44] <q_a_z_steve> !upgrade
[07:44] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:44] <gogeta> even joost the iptv offering is getting a linux version soon
[07:44] <Ghost_Rider30> Hi, new to linux and having video card troubles....can anyone help?
[07:44] <goodboyCerberus> !anyone
[07:44] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:44] <nickrud> kahrytan: no, not that I know of. Gutsy has a nifty guide to available repos, and will even help you choose the best one (software sources under admin)
[07:44] <q_a_z_steve> nickrud, I guess it didn't change?
[07:45] <blue_> wow, Wine plays Half Life 2
[07:45] <gogeta> yea
[07:45] <gogeta> as i said most majer games will run in cedega/wine
[07:45] <geezone> My computer crash and when it rebooted it went to fsck found most errors adn fixed them but one but it was moving so fast i did not catch it should i be worried or dose Linux has a way to fix it self with out user input.  Can anyone help with this issue please..???
[07:45] <GreySim> xTheGoat121x: You'll want to install xfce4, I believe, or something along those lines, if you're using Ubuntu. If you installed xubuntu-desktop, you'd get all of your artwork and whatnot switched to Xubuntu's instead of Ubuntu's.
[07:45] <blue_> cedega is different from WINE?
[07:45] <lee__> lee@ubuntu98632:~$  sudo apt-get install  cmpiz
[07:45] <lee__> Reading package lists... Done
[07:45] <lee__> Building dependency tree
[07:45] <lee__> Reading state information... Done
[07:45] <lee__> E: Couldn't find package cmpiz
[07:45] <nickrud> q_a_z_steve: probably not, you have a really obscure problem.
[07:45] <nickrud> lee__: please don
[07:45] <q_a_z_steve> anyone here know how to get windows32 games running in dosbox?
[07:46] <gogeta> cedega is tuned for gaming and uses patented duirectx runtimes they pay for
[07:46] <nickrud> 't paste here, and it's compiz
[07:46] <Ahadiel> lee__, use pastebin please
[07:46] <lee__> oh sory
[07:46] <Ahadiel> !paste | leagris
[07:46] <ubotu> leagris: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:46] <GreySim> xTheGoat121x: In fact, I just checked. xfce4 is the exact package. You can then switch from GDM before logging in.
[07:46] <Ahadiel> crap, sorry leagris T_T
[07:46] <gogeta> so its a pay softwhere for binarys
[07:46] <Ahadiel> lee__, Read that
[07:46] <q_a_z_steve> lee__, compiz!!!
[07:46] <q_a_z_steve> not cmp
[07:46] <lee__> oh
[07:46] <Ghost_Rider30> any help with nvidia cards?
[07:46] <nickrud> lol
[07:46] <gogeta> you can still download and compile the source couse the softwhere itsself is still gpl but whont include the patented dx runtimes
[07:47] <kahrytan> cedega is an fork of old wine isn't it?
[07:47] <gogeta> it will insteed use emulation
[07:47] <geezone> My computer crash and when it rebooted it went to fsck found most errors adn fixed them but one but it was moving so fast i did not catch it should i be worried or dose Linux has a way to fix it self with out user input.  Can anyone help with this issue please..???
[07:47] <xTheGoat121x> GreySim, thanks.  I figured it would be something along those lines.  Honestly I considered switching over to xubuntu, but I just prefer Gnome.
[07:47] <Nutubuntu> !repeat
[07:47] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:47] <nickrud> I think cedega sitll returns code to wine,
[07:47] <GreySim> xTheGoat121x: Yeah, me too, though I'm keeping an eye on XFCE. :)
[07:48] <gogeta> yea it does
[07:48] <gogeta> thats why wine runs alot of games simplyusing the emulation
[07:48] <blue_> It runs all my favorite games :D
[07:48] <xTheGoat121x> GreySim, honestly, I like xfce, but I've really got to be in the mood to use it, ya know?
[07:48] <marko-ubuntu> wine is not an emulator ;)
[07:48] <lee__> eh i guess i have it already lol
[07:49] <gogeta> but some games will nly work will under cedega couse of the non-gpl dx
[07:49] <trpr> i have a cedega subscription i haven't used in a long while. i really should cancel it. i always thought of it as a sort of donation
[07:49] <gogeta> heh
[07:49] <nickrud> trpr: you rich, huh?
[07:49] <trpr> seriously been over a year since i've dled it. i give em $5 a month
[07:49] <alla1> how i can show my partitions in desktop
[07:49] <geezone> dose anyone know or can help with boot issue and crash issue in ubuntu..
[07:49] <archlich> cedega is no better than windows -.-
[07:49] <trpr> nickrud: heh. i wish. poor manager of money
[07:49] <gogeta> LOL
[07:49] <nickrud> alla1: sudo fdisk -l
[07:50] <nickrud> trpr: I second that emotion :)
[07:50] <kaushal> hi
[07:50] <kaushal> I am using ubuntu 7.04
[07:50] <blue_> So If I am purchasing an all-in-one printer/fax/copier etc that matches up to "Work Perfectly" on LinuxPrinting.org - does that mean its just plug and play?
[07:50] <nickrud> geezone: without more info, no one can.
[07:50] <blue_> Or do you have to hunt down drivers and things like that
[07:51] <kaushal> when I open a file say vi test.pl
[07:51] <trpr> last time i was at the cedega site they were giving incentives to older members. i should be grandfather status by now
[07:51] <xTheGoat121x> I've got another one.. my girlfriend's laptop won't allow her to switch users in Ubuntu
[07:51] <kaushal> and when i press i button twice i dont get insert mode
[07:51] <gogeta> blue linux comes with a libary of drivers
[07:51] <xTheGoat121x> any ideas as to why?
[07:51] <nickrud> blue_: probably no downloads at all. Stay away from lexmark
[07:51] <gogeta> blue should be plug in play if its listed
[07:51] <blue_> yeah, so i heard - i'm going with HP :D
[07:51] <blue_> 6510
[07:51] <lee__> ahh I just found a bug or a n oops
[07:51] <blue_> plug and play then? great
[07:51] <lee__> hehee
[07:51] <blue_> :D
[07:51] <Nutubuntu> foleymark, I heard ppl call it
[07:51] <nickrud> blue_: hp supports linux actively, that's a very safe purchase
[07:52] <lee__> oh well no buggy its in the graphics thingy that s all
[07:52] <GreySim> Ah, figured out my problem before submitting a bug report, thankfully. I'd just thrown a bunch of .ttf files into /usr/share/fonts, which I just found out is *not* the way to do it. >.<
[07:52] <blue_> sweet
[07:52] <lee__> eh Iguess its the thing that supose to make the window woble
[07:52] <kaushal> :( :(
[07:52] <geezone> Nickrud: if ubuntu gose into a fsck check but fix all errors but one is said fail should i be worried or no.. the one error failed but it moved to fast for me to see it..
[07:52] <alla1> nickrud:this command show the partitions in terminal but i want to make the partitions on my desk to make it fast access to it
[07:52] <gogeta> ownez old cheap hp
[07:53] <gogeta> never usen it
[07:53] <gogeta> inks probly all dryed up
[07:53] <gogeta> LOL
[07:53] <nickrud> alla1: what kind of partition
[07:53] <alla1> fat32
[07:53] <gogeta> ext3
[07:53] <gogeta> LOL
[07:53] <xTheGoat121x> BRB all
[07:53] <kaushal> hi gogeta
[07:54] <gogeta> bo
[07:54] <lee__> oh how come we cant form mat or partion in NTFS in 7.04?  or did it eer have tht abillity and waht is ext3?
[07:54] <nickrud> geezone: don't know, honestly, without seeing the error. I'd boot a live cd and run fsck manually
[07:54] <kaushal> when I open a file say vi test.pl
[07:54] <kaushal> and when i press i button twice i dont get insert mode
[07:54] <alla1> nickrud: fat32
[07:54] <gogeta> its insert
[07:54] <geezone> ok thanks
[07:54] <kaushal> i did that also
[07:54] <kaushal> I pressed insert button twice
[07:54] <gogeta> odd
[07:55] <cafuego> it's not insert, you hit 'i' just once.
[07:55] <nickrud> alla1: they should show up automatically. But put the contents of /etc/fstab , and the output of sudo fdisk -l on !pastebin (see following)
[07:55] <gogeta> ctrl i
[07:55] <kaushal> ok
[07:55] <nickrud> !pastebin | alla1
[07:55] <ubotu> alla1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:55] <cafuego> if vi doesn't work, there's always 'nano'
[07:55] <Nutubuntu> kaushal, even numbers of keypresses don't do anything. Odd numbers toggle, and primes have special properties
[07:55] <gogeta> or vim
[07:55] <nickrud> yes vim is vi for humnas
[07:55] <GreySim> lee__: I think there's something you can install to enable NTFS support. ext3 is a Linux filesystem. Your main partition is going to have to be ext3 or another Linux-compatible type; you can't install Ubuntu onto an NTFS partition, since it doesn't support the features the Linux kernel needs, I believe.
[07:55] <nickrud> *humans
[07:56] <Nutubuntu> them too
[07:56] <blue_> where is the best place to get themes, skins, etc
[07:56] <blue_> 'repositories'?
[07:57] <nickrud> !repositories | blue_
[07:57] <ubotu> blue_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:57] <cafuego> blue_: art.ubuntu.com or somesuch
[07:57] <cafuego> blue_: and themes.gnome.org ...?
[07:57] <GreySim> blue_: I get most of mine from www.gnome-look.org or http://art.gnome.org but there are other places. Deviant Art has some.
[07:57] <lee__> ah i see np..thre wierd thing is it was asking me inf i wanted to import my windows profile...seeng that kinda made me panic aan eh i wiped the drive
[07:57] <blue_> sweet, thanks
[07:57] <databuddy> !intel
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <databuddy> !i810
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <cafuego> blue_: To install, download them and drop the tarball on the Themes control panel window.
[07:57] <lee__> or was it trying to make my life easier?
[07:58] <tomato^> is there a free online chat system for customer support?
[07:58] <nickrud> !info xserver-driver-video-intel } databuddy
[07:58] <ubotu> Package xserver-driver-video-intel does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:58] <blue_> ? is there some step by step guide for that?
[07:58] <blue_> like a forum link
[07:58] <gogeta> yea its alled irc
[07:58] <blue_> no idea what a tarball is
[07:58] <gogeta> lol
[07:58] <nickrud> erg, never can remember those names
[07:58] <blue_> lol
[07:58] <GreySim> lee__: I think it was just trying to import bookmarks, wallpaper, and a few other settings. I'm not sure though, as I've never used that feature.
[07:58] <lee__> its a giant ball of tar
[07:58] <cafuego> blue_: Just open th Themes applet, and dump the downloaded file on it. That's all there is to it.
[07:59] <tomato^> can someone give me a link? im looking for a free  online chat support
[07:59] <lee__> me neiether ..i was afraid that it would literaly mess things up
[07:59] <gogeta> you in it fool\
[07:59] <blue_> so i'll download a file to my desktop and go to system > theme
[07:59] <blue_> and drag it in there
[07:59] <lee__> as they say if indoubt...thow it out lol
[07:59] <cafuego> blue_: Yep. A tarball is a simply a file ending in .tgz or .tar.gz
[07:59] <Nutubuntu> Well, goodnight all ... I'm afraid of waking up with POIUYTREWQ embedded in mirror writing in my forehead
[08:00] <blue_> i see :D
[08:00] <GreySim> blue_: Dragging and dropping onto the themes applet works for *most* themes. Archives containing multiple themes will have to be installed manually though, generally by placing the unarchived files in /home/user/.themes/
[08:00] <GreySim> blue_: I think that mostly only happens on gnome-look.org though. Maybe deviantART.
[08:00] <blue_> is that where 'chmod' and such comes in?
[08:00] <blue_> with the terminal
[08:00] <nickrud> alla1: you about got that stuff up?
[08:00] <blue_> terminal = manual install?
[08:00] <GreySim> blue_: I don't think so. Not sure why it would.
[08:01] <surface> how to know a device 's uuid?
[08:01] <gogeta> tomato your in rhe ubuntu online chat nor ask question
[08:01] <blue_> oh =\
[08:01] <lee__> eh it has downloadable themes under the theems setting
[08:01] <GreySim> blue_: You don't have to touch a terminal for manually installing.
[08:01] <surface> how to get /dev/sda1's uuid for /etc/fstabs
[08:01] <nickrud> surface: blkid   in a terminal
[08:01] <surface> nickrud, let me try, thx
[08:01] <GreySim> blue_: You can unarchive the file by right-clicking and extracting, then I use Ctrl+L to pop up a location bar, type "~/.themes", and that will pop open your themes folder.
[08:02] <Symmetria> hrm, lo all
[08:02] <GreySim> blue_: But again, that's only for archives with multiple themes. Archives with one theme (the majority of them), are just a drag 'n' drop into the theme applet.
[08:02] <Symmetria> anyone got any idea why, after I've enabled remote desktop with vino-preferences, its still refusing my vnc session connections
[08:02] <Symmetria> and if I look in a netstat its definately not actually working
[08:03] <blue_> i see
[08:03] <biouser> anyone use Audacity
[08:03] <biouser> ?
[08:04] <chetnick> Symmetria are connecting from inside LAN?
[08:04] <Don64> biouser: i've used it for book voice recording
[08:05] <Symmetria> chetnick externally, no firewalls etc
[08:05] <chetnick> router?
[08:05] <blue_> so i'm looking for metacity themes right?
[08:05] <blue_> or does it not matter what kind
[08:05] <Symmetria> but it aint got a tcp listen on it anyway so not sure that would make a difference, but yeah, behind routers, all of which are under my control
[08:05] <chetnick> forward connections on vnc port
[08:05] <chetnick> trough your router
[08:05] <Symmetria> heh chetnick there is no NAT here
[08:05] <Symmetria> its all live ip space
[08:05] <Symmetria> so no forwarding needed
[08:06] <chetnick> so no router than :)
[08:06] <Symmetria> errr yes, a router
[08:06] <Symmetria> a router doesnt only do nat
[08:06] <Symmetria> :)
[08:06] <chetnick> DMZ
[08:06] <chetnick> ?
[08:06] <Symmetria> chetnick heh, no, a router, *laugh*
[08:07] <Symmetria> heh chetnick routers do a lot more than just nat, they do everything from mpls to QoS :p
[08:07] <Symmetria> the moment you cross a subnet boundary you have to pass through a router
[08:07] <lee__> ok real question is the best way to run windows aps is to have them allready on installed in widows then run it through linux using wine or beryl?
[08:07] <Symmetria> (well, technically you could pass through a L3 switch but then its doing routing anyway)
[08:08] <nickrud> lee__: no, install it into wine. (and beryl is a pretty window manager)
[08:08] <chetnick> i dont know than
[08:08] <codename> I need some help with my Video card
[08:08] <blue_> sorry, back - anyone know what themes apply for ubuntu - i think it's Metacity right?
[08:08] <lee__> how do i ececute beryl then?
[08:08] <nickrud> lee__: with a gun?
[08:09] <riotkittie> with two guns. you can never be too sure.
[08:09] <jimmy815a> i just run beryl as a startup program lee
[08:09] <nickrud> lee__: beryl is dead software already, it's been replaced by compiz-fusion. In 9 days, you can install it with gutsy. I'd suggest not even worrying about beryl
[08:09] <lee__> lol..  idon't want to frag everything lol
[08:09] <codename> I need some help with my video card.
[08:09] <lee__> oh ok
[08:09] <Kudak> how come i cant set my resolution to any higher than 1024x768 ?? my screen supports up to 1600x1200
[08:10] <lee__> actualy this is saying that i have compiz lol
[08:10] <marko-ubuntu> beryl worx nice  is wery stable now
[08:10] <riotkittie> Kudak: you need to reconfigure xorg. you can do this by manually editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf as sudo [backup first]  or by running the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command in a terminal
[08:10] <nickrud> Kudak: the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log will have a lot of info about that. It's long, but just scroll through until you get to the section that shows the resolutions
[08:11] <codename> ya
[08:11] <Symmetria> hrm, other than that tick box in vino-preferences to enable it, is there anything else I need to do to actually start vino
[08:12] <ethik> .
[08:12] <lee__> ok if my pc is saying i have compiz..how in tarnations do i access it lol
[08:12] <nickrud> lee__: what kind of video card do you have?
[08:12] <codename> tarnations
[08:12] <codename> good one
[08:12] <codename> Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT
[08:12] <Kudak> nickrud: the Xorg file is equal to the XF86Config file in other linux distributions ???
[08:13] <lee__> eh the only thing i did with net working i set my moms msn boxy thingy to talk to her pc lol
[08:13] <nickrud> Kudak: yes, it's just a rename to all practical effects
[08:13] <Kudak> nickrud: alright, thanks.
[08:13] <lee__> nickrud i have an ati x300
[08:13] <chetnick> i would test that in some other environment first
[08:13] <Dark_Rain> morning guys
[08:13] <nickrud> Kudak: XF86Config went out with the XFree version of X
[08:13] <chetnick> to see is it working
[08:14] <chetnick> morning Dark_Rain
[08:14] <nickrud> lee__: no compiz for us, then. The ati drivers don't support it. You will be able to use compiz-fusion in gutsy, though.
[08:14] <Kudak> nickrud: i seems to be outdated :(
[08:14] <ethik> im bored :|
[08:14] <lee__> so fr its been 100 percent stable minus one bug or glitch that i found
[08:14] <nickrud> Kudak: welcome back then
[08:14] <Kudak> nickrud: it seems like i need to read about linux from scratch all over again lol
[08:14] <ethik> Anyone got something fun to do on linux?
[08:14] <chetnick> ethik tell me than
[08:15] <lee__> i have gutsy
[08:15] <chetnick> how to make my sound work
[08:15] <ethik> tell u what?
[08:15] <chetnick> in CS over wine
[08:15] <ethik> oh
[08:15] <ethik> I dunno
[08:15] <lee__> well the beta version
[08:15] <nickrud> Kudak: ah, what a great way to learn about linux. I ran that for 6 months, eating my own dog food.
[08:15] <ethik> Getting CS to work on my laptop with WINE seems like fun though...
[08:15] <lee__> wine gave me headaches
[08:15] <lee__> slow to respond
[08:15] <chetnick> it works fine just the F sound
[08:16] <ethik> what do u use to run windows apps then?
[08:16] <chetnick> there is that cedega
[08:16] <nickrud> codename: you got lost in the flow, what's your problem? (I don't know a lot about nvidia, a warning up front)
[08:16] <riotkittie> i use windows to run windows apps. because i am just that awesome.
[08:16] <lee__> nickrud, I have gutsy, i went to load compiz..it said it was the latest version
[08:16] <chetnick> but it is worthless
[08:16] <chetnick> i couldnt get nothing done with it
[08:16] <codename> Basically the graphics are not working properly.
[08:16] <nickrud> !xgl | lee__ us ati people have to run a special server, this has instructions)
[08:16] <codename> So I was gonna try
[08:16] <ubotu> lee__ us ati people have to run a special server, this has instructions): Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:17] <codename> Switching cards.
[08:17] <ethik> know what my favorite thing about ubunto is? the cube workspace effect
[08:17] <codename> Is it a pain hotswapping cards?
[08:17] <ethik> its like
[08:17] <ethik> wee
[08:17] <ethik> wee
[08:17] <marko-ubuntu> lecrossover office is easy to use for win apps
[08:17] <lee__> I have opengl as well
[08:17] <marko-ubuntu> *crossover
[08:17] <nickrud> codename: every time you change cards, you have to rewrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and restart X
[08:17] <Kudak> nickrud: if i wanna create a backup,   cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log <what do i put to make it stay in same directory) Xorg.0.log.backup ????
[08:17] <codename> How long does that take?
[08:17] <ethik> any good games for linux?
[08:18] <codename> Is it pretty hard?
[08:18] <lee__> In fact I have the entire ati catylysts installed
[08:18] <chetnick> marko-ubuntu: crossover
[08:18] <lee__> and running
[08:18] <chetnick> you can run CS
[08:18] <chetnick> ?
[08:18] <nickrud> Kudak: I always cd into the directory if I'm doing that, fewer characters to type.  then sudo cp <file> <file>.back
[08:18] <chetnick> odakle si mako care
[08:18] <ethik> I want something thats just a linux app
[08:18] <ethik> lol
[08:18] <chetnick> marko*
[08:18] <ethik> No stress
[08:18] <ethik> its too late at night
[08:18] <Kudak> nickrud: yea but how do u do that the way i asked? i know its possible i forgot how the command structure should be
[08:19] <lee__> nickrud, I  have opengl
[08:19] <marko-ubuntu> :)
[08:19] <nickrud> codename: usually it's just changing one line, from one video driver to another. If you have a pretty standard setup, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh will ask a question or two, and you're done
[08:19] <codename> k thanks
[08:19] <nickrud> Kudak: sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/file.back
[08:19] <codename> or i can just rename "nv" to "nvidia"
[08:19] <nickrud> codename: precisely
[08:19] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, you seem to be the local expert this evening.
[08:19] <codename> and use the Restricted dirvers manager to install the proper drivers
[08:20] <codename> Thanks!
[08:20] <lee__> eh I loaded the ati drivers taht i got from ati
[08:20] <Nottingham> hi ^^, is there a way to change or increase mount for /var/ from x. mbs to x. mbs mount?
[08:20] <Symmetria> urgh, heh, Xrealvnc segfaults on me :p justttt great
[08:20] <tb77> lee__: you need xserver-xgl
[08:20] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x: the real knowledgeable people are not around, and the questions are low hanging fruit. Perspective is everything :)
[08:20] <lee__> tb77 wahts taht?
[08:20] <xTheGoat121x> riotkittie..... stabby motions?
[08:20] <mrak> codename: its another drivers ...
[08:20] <KevlarSoul> how can I update my nvidia driver without access to the internet
[08:20] <riotkittie> he shouldnt need anything if he's running gutsy, and if he does need anything, he should ask in the gutsy support channel, #ubuntu+1
[08:21] <codename> ?
[08:21] <codename> What was the question mrak?
[08:21] <chetnick> KevlarSoul dont think you can do that
[08:21] <lee__> eh this is where it spit me out at
[08:21] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, haha, well I'm about in the same boat.  People take me for some kind of expert in here sometimes, yet I haven't used Ubuntu for more than, oh 3 months
[08:21] <nickrud> lee__: read that page I gave you, it tells you what you _have_ to do
[08:21] <chetnick> unless you have update localy
[08:21] <mrak> codename: .... can just rename "nv" to "nvidia ...
[08:21] <temper> is it possible convert from ruby object to ruby class (or any other interpreted language)
[08:21] <codename> k
[08:22] <lee__> eh waht page
[08:22] <nickrud> !xgl | lee__
[08:22] <nickrud> ah, it's soooo close, riotkittie
[08:22] <xTheGoat121x> riotkittie, what's wrong
[08:22] <Symmetria> ok, errr, in ubuntu, if I add another partition to a drive using fdisk, how do I add the device node in /dev manually since it doesnt exist :p
[08:22] <lee__> ok
[08:23] <Symmetria> it *should* automatically do it as far as I know, I just cant remeber how to trigger it without a reboot
[08:23] <nickrud> Symmetria: if it's not in /dev, then you got problems. udev creates those automagically
[08:23] <Symmetria> nickrud yeah, but I think it only does that on boot
[08:23] <Symmetria> I need to trigger that manually somehow
[08:23] <temper> is it possible convert from ruby object to ruby class (or any other interpreted language)
[08:23] <nickrud> Symmetria: I saw that bit late :)
[08:24] <astro76> Symmetria, maybe try restarting udev... sudo invoke-rc.d udev restart
[08:24] <nickrud> Symmetria: you can try sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
[08:24] <lee__> eh I have 3d already running
[08:24] <xTheGoat121x> Everyone else beat me to that answer
[08:24] <nickrud> Symmetria: although I vaguely remember that was unrecommended. But that was a while ago
[08:24] <tb77> lee__: you have fglrx drivers installed?
[08:25] <Symmetria> hrm, didnt add the node when I restarted it
[08:25] <lee__> Yes
[08:25] <nickrud> lee__: three d is not enough for ati. You must run the xserver-xgl
[08:25] <tb77> lee__: xserver-xgl?
[08:25] <lee__> Eh I also have this thing that alows me to change my
[08:25] <trpr> Symmetria: mknod comes to mind, but i have no idea how to use it
[08:25] <lee__> anti alizialization
[08:26] <lee__> to 6x
[08:26] <Symmetria> heh trpr mknod is definately not a good idea while running udev, since udev and mknod could end up conflicting with each other :)
[08:26] <lee__> and my deintelacing to
[08:26] <Symmetria> that was my first thought as well, then I realized heh, not a good idea
[08:26] <lee__> 16x
[08:26] <nickrud> Symmetria: you could always try /dev/.static/dev
[08:26] <xTheGoat121x> So, lemme ask, does anyone know why Ubuntu would prevent a session from logging out or switching users?
[08:27] <lee__> and its saying that I have th ooption of overiding the 8 buit buffer
[08:27] <mynyml> is there a way to turn off ~ files?
[08:27] <lee__> or is there more to it the nthat?
[08:27] <KevlarSoul> Why cant I install network through terminal?
[08:27] <mynyml> like, prevent them from being automatically generated?
[08:27] <WaltzingAlong> mynyml: the back up files, sure
[08:27] <Symmetria> heh nickrud *nod* that or just reboot the goddamn thing :p heh, but would rather see if I can figure this out :p otherwise Im gonna sit wondering
[08:28] <nickrud> Symmetria: maybe link that to /dev/, and have a shutdown srcript to remove the link for the next boot :)
[08:28] <lee__> eeehheew its not for gutsy
[08:28] <WaltzingAlong> xTheGoat121x: most likely because you are in kde with gdm or vice version in gnome with kdm
[08:28] <mynyml> WaltzingAlong: that'd be great, how can i do it? google gives me everything but what i need on that term and i dont know how to restrict it
[08:29] <WaltzingAlong> mynyml: which program are you using that generates them? typically i just name them starting with a . instead
[08:29] <KevlarSoul> how can I install the internet.
[08:29] <xTheGoat121x> WaltzingAlong, doubtful.  It's a fresh install of Ubuntu Feisty.... I will say, it was the first time I had to set up the partitions by hand, could that have something to do with it?  Could I have set it up wrong?
[08:30] <WaltzingAlong> xTheGoat121x: no i would not think it has anything to do with the partitions. so you are using both gdm and gnome, ok
[08:30] <mynyml> WaltzingAlong: all editors generate them, i thought it was a feature of the filesystem actually ...!
[08:30] <lee__> Eh I have no Idea waht I did then lol
[08:30] <parisi> hmm
[08:30] <Seveas> !test
[08:30] <ubotu> Failed.
[08:31] <lee__> I guess I traded one thing off for another
[08:31] <lee__> erg
[08:31] <chetnick> Symmetria i`m not sure what are you trying to do
[08:31] <chetnick> but this might help
[08:31] <chetnick> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter06/kernfs.html
[08:31] <IronFlint> does any1 know how to install oddcast
[08:31] <IronFlint> i, still a nix n00b
[08:31] <chetnick> Mounting and Populating /dev
[08:32] <lee__> well, what i was trying to do was prevent my screen from melting down, as it was an hour glass shape
[08:32] <xTheGoat121x> WaltzingAlong, the only other thing  I can think of is a problem with the ACPI.... I've heard stories about incompatibilities wreaking all kinds of havoc
[08:33] <ethik> bored..
[08:33] <nickrud> go for a walk
[08:33] <lee__> it seems that i have partial effects though like...a flashing tab for a new sight , just no woble
[08:33] <ethik> its 11:33 PM
[08:33] <IronFlint> well i need help if ur bored ethik
[08:33] <Symmetria> heh, just bounced the box in the end, quicker and easier *shrug*
[08:33] <ethik> What do u need help with?
[08:34] <IronFlint> im a nix n00b
[08:34] <lee__> so then what did i do the nickrud?
[08:34] <IronFlint> and im trying to figure out how to install oddcast
[08:34] <ethik> guess wut? :D
[08:34] <ethik> me too
[08:34] <ethik> lol
[08:34] <nickrud> lee__: I don't know?
[08:34] <ethik> im a nab too
[08:34] <IronFlint> hehe
[08:35] <Symmetria> heh first linux system I think I've had on my network in 3 years other than a gentoo desktop
[08:35] <GreySim> Should I file a bug on a package in Universe, or does the bug tracker only care about packages in main?
[08:35] <lee__> nickrud i have the catylysy control and it tookaway a few of the features? plus this 60 mhz gives me a headache lol
[08:35] <astro76> GreySim, all packages are valid for bug reports
[08:35] <chetnick> i like gentoo
[08:35] <GreySim> astro76: Thanks.
[08:36] <chetnick> didnt have a chanse to use a lot
[08:36] <phrost> ehh gentoo is so so
[08:36] <phrost> takes way too long to build on production systems
[08:36] <nickrud> lee__: I don't use the drivers from ati, but from the repos. I have no clue about how to help you with that
[08:37] <Symmetria> heh phrost I only use gentoo on one of my workstations, heh, everything else on the network these days is solaris
[08:37] <Symmetria> other than this ubuntu box I just installed now
[08:38] <chetnick> is solaris difficult for patch and updates?
[08:38] <phrost> chetnick: never tried
[08:38] <WaltzingAlong> mkfs.ext3 kicks Symmetria for being impatient :D
[08:38] <Symmetria> heh it is kinda a large partition :p
[08:38] <Symmetria> heh chetnick rather take that off channel i think, kinda off topic for #ubuntu, but you can message me about it if you want
[08:38] <Symmetria> Writing inode tables:  3575/10776
[08:38] <chetnick> ok :)
[08:38] <Symmetria> heh
[08:39] <AnAnt> I am an arabic user, how can I change the virtual console direction to be right-to-left and to join letters ?
[08:39] <astro76> !arabic
[08:39] <nickrud> Can the vc's even do that?
[08:39] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[08:39] <lee__> lol, its ok.. i was trying 2 things..prevention of migraines from 60hz (yes that frequency triggers  them for real for me) and preventing screen dammage from an hour glass shspe
[08:39] <astro76> AnAnt, they might no in #ubuntu-sa ;)
[08:39] <astro76> *know
[08:40] <lee__> eh in other words...i was trying to kep my sanity lol
[08:41] <AnAnt> astro76: no one there
[08:41] <hume> hi, I am trying to set up software raid 1 with ubuntu 7.04 alternate CD. But where am I to get the option to configure raid? I do the disk partitioning by no option raid anywhere....?
[08:42] <riotkittie> >|
[08:42] <kaushal> hi
[08:42] <lee__> oh is x16 pciexpress a 64 bit thing or is thatstandard?
[08:42] <WaltzingAlong> where to set the default session? this machine has xfce, kde, gnome, and fluxbox but i would like kdm to default to kde (as in for users who log in for the first time)
[08:42] <kaushal> is there a specific document for vi editor in ubuntu
[08:42] <dbkim> hi all
[08:43] <astro76> AnAnt, eventually there will be ;)
[08:43] <AnAnt> k
[08:43] <AnAnt> thanks
[08:43] <dbkim> I'm just wondering that I can connect my pocketpc with ubuntu.
[08:43] <dbkim> is it possible?
[08:43] <lee__> tryin to see if i can run in 64 bit or not
[08:43] <Symmetria> kaushal you mean a vi tutorial?
[08:43] <kaushal> yeah
[08:43] <astro76> kaushal, vimtutor
[08:43] <davina> kaushal, type: man vi      in a terminal
[08:44] <astro76> kaushal, nice interactive tutorial
[08:44] <nickrud> oh, the dreaded man word ;)
[08:44] <chetnick> you are going to need few days
[08:44] <lee__> eh ok better ? what is linux? and why is it he rave ?
[08:44] <chetnick> maybe weeks
[08:44] <chetnick> to get around vi
[08:44] <chetnick> :)
[08:44] <dbkim> is there anyone has succeeded to connect pocket pc with ubuntu?
[08:44] <lee__> i am really confused
[08:44] <astro76> !linux | lee__
[08:44] <ubotu> lee__: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[08:44] <dbkim> seems only pilots are supported by linux =(
[08:44] <GreySim> Does Launchpad email you when someone comments on your bugs?
[08:45] <bmt2> hello to all
[08:45] <Kyokuz> i saw a link somewhere that you can run ubuntu on your ipod
[08:45] <dbkim> I really want to use evolution with my pocket pc on ubuntu
[08:45] <lee__> i asm asking because i am wodering why theres no good software fore editing video like adobie 6.0
[08:45] <Jamesinator> lee__: Kino
[08:45] <WaltzingAlong> lee__: may need to be written
[08:45] <lee__> yea a nd i seen a hac version on a psp lol
[08:45] <GreySim> Kyokuz: I know you can run Linux on your iPod, if you mean flashing the iPod firmware directly. You can boot Ubuntu on a PC from your iPod as well.
[08:46] <GreySim> lee__: Pitivi is an upcoming app for that, though last I heard it wasn't ready yet.
[08:46] <bmt2> why when i try to install a new theme it says "file format invalid" ?
[08:46] <nickrud> the things people do with linux. You'd think they were trying to take over
[08:46] <bmt2> the file is a tar.gz
[08:46] <lee__> jamesintor where do i find it at?
[08:46] <GreySim> Kyokuz: But running Ubuntu directly on the iPod itself is not possible as far as I'm aware.
[08:46] <puff> I want to set up my screensaver to invoke a perl script and then display the text in that script.  I had this working in the past, when I dist-upgraded six months ago it broke.
[08:47] <davina> i have linux running on my ps3
[08:47] <puff> In the past it was using the star wars effects screen saver.
[08:47] <mrak> bmt2: try to unpack it ;)
[08:47] <bmt2> mrak: i did that but now i do not know what to pick when i try to ' instal theme '
[08:47] <lee__> it crashed hard corp that piyvi, i never want to see it so longas i live
[08:48] <lee__> but then..maybe that is because
[08:48] <GreySim> lee__: Like I said, it's not ready *yet*.
[08:48] <lee__> it wasnt ready to be dowown  loaded at the time
[08:48] <GreySim> lee__: It just might be something to watch, and hopefully a good release happens in the near future.
[08:48] <mrak> bmt2: i think .. in pack was some REAME or INSTALL ... it should b there
[08:49] <bmt2> mrak: let me check
[08:49] <Symmetria> heh *snore* mkfs.ext3 is still busy
[08:49] <lee__> greysim i'll give it  a second try..when its ready lol
[08:49] <lee__> I hope that it will have great wipes an faades and such
[08:50] <lee__> and dang  a good titler to
[08:50] <lee__> oops.. talking tv there for a sec
[08:51] <lee__> sdmits he was a vollunteer for kltv..widows has issues when it comes to editing and then putting it all to geather
[08:52] <bmt2> mrak: no readme files at all
[08:52] <jeff1212> where do i go to get mp3/dvd/mpg codecs?
[08:52] <astro76> !mp3
[08:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:52] <astro76> !dvd
[08:52] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:52] <lee__> thats something else i knoticed about linux.....its not a DRive hog
[08:53] <mrak> bmt2: !theme
[08:53] <mrak> !theme
[08:53] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:53] <bmt2> !theme
[08:53] <lee__> oh how do you defrg using linux?
[08:53] <bmt2> mrak: always wanted to know what that does
[08:54] <lee__> or do you defrag it?
[08:54] <xTheGoat121x> Correct me if I'm wrong... read/write NTFS support will be included in Gutsy, right?
[08:54] <astro76> lee__, linux filesystems do not suffer from fragmentation for the most part, you don't need to
[08:54] <Madpilot> lee__, ext3 doesn't need to be defragged
[08:54] <astro76> xTheGoat121x, correct
[08:54] <mrak> bmt2: i know now :)
[08:54] <lee__> hu what? a program that doesnt self destruct?
[08:55] <ethik> how do I get WINE running?
[08:55] <ethik> I already installed it apparently
[08:55] <lee__> please for give me while i take time to gather my thaughts
[08:55] <Madpilot> lee__, amazing, isn't it?
[08:55] <xTheGoat121x> astro76, do you know if it automatically mounts NTFS partitions?
[08:55] <lee__> ok waht aobut viruses? and eh fire wals?
[08:55] <lee__> and spye ware?
[08:56] <Kaybol> ethik: the easiest way to fully install wine is using winetools
[08:56] <Kaybol> it doesn't come in the package manager though
[08:56] <astro76> xTheGoat121x, the installer will add fixed drives to fstab, and usb/firewire drives would be automatically updated... I'm not sure how the feisty->gutsy upgrade will handle existing ntfs lines in fstab
[08:56] <Madpilot> lee__, none of those really need to be worried about
[08:56] <lee__> oh and the other thing I knoticed is when you tell the frozen program to quit it quits it just dont sit there
[08:56] <astro76> xTheGoat121x, *usb/firewire automatically mounted
[08:56] <mrak> astro76:  r u sure .. i dont think so
[08:56] <astro76> mrak, about?
[08:57] <mrak> astro76:  frangmentastion of linux fs
[08:57] <lee__> so waht your saying is taht linux sytems are more cost effective and when running right
[08:57] <astro76> mrak, positive
[08:57] <lee__> s-t-a-ble?
[08:57] <xTheGoat121x> astro76, ok.  The only thing that I'm worried about is constantly having my NTFS partition on my desktop
[08:57] <astro76> !fragmentation
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fragmentation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <mrak> astro76:  i think every fs are have b fragmented
[08:57] <lee__> so bascially the only truely uneek thing is  free source coding has
[08:58] <mrak> s/b/been
[08:58] <Kaybol> anybody got problems setting up their WIRELESS? I've finally managed to make it work under Ubuntu ^^
[08:58] <astro76> mrak, you think, but I know ;)
[08:58] <astro76> xTheGoat121x, I believe there's a way to remove the icon
[08:58] <xTheGoat121x> astro76, well that'll be nice, if/when I have to cross that bridge
[08:58] <Symmetria> wooot
[08:59] <Symmetria> mkfs.ext3 finally finished
[08:59] <Symmetria> /dev/sda3             1.3T  198M  1.3T   1% /home/diskspace
[08:59] <astro76> mrak, http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
[08:59] <mrak> astro76:  if u know ;) ... so why xfs has util for defragmatation ;)
[08:59] <Symmetria> thats better
[08:59] <GreySim> lee__: You can add an applet to your panel to force kill misbehaving programs if it turns out to be a common problem. I generally don't have to use it, but sometimes when using third-party packages I've had to use it.
[08:59] <riotkittie> 1.3T :o
[08:59] <astro76> mrak, yeah I'm not talking about xfs
[08:59] <Madpilot> lee__, even if you've got a program using up all your system resources and really screwing up, your desktop will basically never freeze. Linux is much, much better at system utilization than other OSes
[08:59] <mrak> astro76: so what u mean that linux fs ;)
[09:00] <astro76> mrak, xfs is a unix filesystem from before linux
[09:00] <lee__> grey sim the only one miss behaivng prgram taht I had was that one that is soon to be a video editing software inthe works
[09:00] <lee__> So Ihave noticed
[09:00] <lee__> my mother can use this
[09:00] <astro76> mrak, so like ext3, reiser, these are linux filesystems
[09:00] <ethik> alright
[09:00] <mrak> astro76: oh ok
[09:00] <ethik> so if WINE is installed
[09:00] <lee__> I wish I had known aobut this befor she spent 300 on softeare alone
[09:00] <ethik> I should be able to run a windows app?
[09:01] <riotkittie> ethik: possibly.
[09:01] <ethik> or do I need to run WINE before I run something?
[09:01] <riotkittie> you need to run wine, and install through wine
[09:01] <lee__> eh 198 on xp, 98 on antivirus software...um..eh I am thinking taht I am seeing a light here
[09:01] <astro76> ethik, run winecfg for wine settings
[09:02] <lee__> the light has blinked on
[09:02] <ethik> how do I do that?
[09:02] <ethik> IM a nix nab
[09:02] <richee> hi ubotu
[09:02] <astro76> lee__, :D
[09:02] <lee__> oh now if I can talk my om into converting
[09:02] <lee__> her business would be a lot better
[09:03] <lee__> and more cost effective
[09:03] <lee__> ok iam brign my live cd to hr house
[09:03] <astro76> ethik, open a terminal (applications > accessories > terminal) and type winecfg, or for graphical programs (winecfg is) you can hit alt+f2 and type it there
[09:03] <lee__> the only problem is..all the games she has
[09:03] <ramiky> School..=s
[09:03] <lee__> but then she wasnts the kids off her puter lol
[09:04] <ethik> oh wow
[09:04] <ethik> THats awesome
[09:04] <ethik> I thought I was going to have to type file paths
[09:04] <ramiky> Do you any good webpage creators to Ubuntu?
[09:04] <lee__> woas whats this with wine?
[09:04] <GreySim> lee__: That is a problem. WINE can play *some* games. Cedega can play more, but costs money for the effective version. ($15 for it + three months of updates, last time I looked)
[09:04] <astro76> ethik, winecfg like most programs on your system is in a directory included in your $PATH variable
[09:04] <astro76> lee__, what games?
[09:05] <lee__> eh she has games like the nancy drew mystery hour and such
[09:05] <GreySim> lee__: Personally, I keep a copy of Windows 2000 installed and dual boot for games, but I'm hoping I won't have to once WINE gets better.
[09:05] <lee__> but then she always believed her pc aught t o be for work ad such not for the kids to mess around with
[09:06] <lee__> ah I see
[09:06] <ethik> astro76: i'll pretend to understand that =)
[09:06] <grinnblade> hello all, I am currently attempting to install Ubuntu 7.04 on my other computer, and after a misburned CD i finally got it to boot to a new CD
[09:06] <lee__> iam freankly tired of having to fix the kids mess ups
[09:06] <astro76> lee__, maybe your mom would like dual-booting then, it would rigidly separate work and play ;)
[09:06] <grinnblade> only to find that the installer errors out when I attempt to run or install Ubuntu it says "invalid or corrupt kernel"
[09:07] <astro76> ethik, hehe, if you are curious in a terminal type: echo $PATH
[09:07] <lee__> I'll talk to her aobut it
[09:07] <lee__> can she transfr works type dopcuments?
[09:07] <Wicks> grinnblade: what version are you downloading, and what processor is in your machine?
[09:07] <GreySim> lee__: It would also mean that her $300 wouldn't be invalidated. She'd still be using XP and the anti-virus software. Just not all the time.
[09:07] <grinnblade> Intel Pentium D for the processor. 7.04.... x86, I think.
[09:07] <astro76> lee__, you'll be able to at least read from the windows partition out of the box, so you can copy over as needed
[09:07] <grinnblade> er
[09:08] <grinnblade> i386
[09:08] <grinnblade> At least I got the last two right >_>
[09:08] <ethik> oh, you know what I should have done? :|
[09:08] <ethik> I had Windows XP on here
[09:08] <lee__> oh coolio
[09:08] <ethik> and a seperate HDD
[09:08] <lee__> oh tahts where the term lindows comes from then?
[09:08] <lee__> or..am I wrong
[09:08] <Wicks> grinnblade: Cool - have you tried downloading the ISO from a different location?
[09:08] <GreySim> lee__: No, Lindows was a Linux distribution. It's now called Linspire.
[09:09] <lee__> I have linspire lol
[09:09] <sauvin> is it any good?
[09:09] <lee__> just..never loadedit
[09:09] <gordonjcp> sauvin: it was ok in its day
[09:09] <lee__> oh wate I have freespire
[09:09] <gordonjcp> sauvin: I set it up on a PC for my Mum to use
[09:09] <sauvin> What, precisely, is it?
[09:09] <gordonjcp> sauvin: tbh there wasn't a lot to recommend it
[09:09] <Grinnblade> Wicks: No. Should I attempt another mirror?
[09:09] <GreySim> lee__: Same thing, basically. Freespire is just the free version of Linspire.
[09:10] <lee__> hmm..
[09:10] <gordonjcp> sauvin: it's Debian with a crappy proprietary installer, everything running as root, and a bit of time and money spent on the UI
[09:10] <dn4> what is a good text based webrozer?
[09:10] <gordonjcp> dn4: links
[09:10] <riotkittie> elinks.
[09:10] <Grinnblade> Also, a corrupt kernel error couldn't possibly be caused by a bad burn, would it?
[09:10] <dn4> thx
[09:10] <GreySim> dn4: I keep hearing w3c recommended, I think.
[09:10] <gordonjcp> sauvin: Ubuntu has kind of replaced it now
[09:10] <lee__> I can't remeber the reason why I stoppped uisng it
[09:10] <gordonjcp> GreySim: it's a distinct possibility
[09:10] <lee__> oph no up grade
[09:10] <gordonjcp> lee__: it sucked?
[09:10] <sauvin> I'm using Ubuntu and don't see that it's much differnet from any other reasonably thought out distro.
[09:11] <lee__> no..Ijsut didnt undersnad it at the time\
[09:11] <gordonjcp> sauvin: Ubuntu has had a lot of time and money spent on the look and feel
[09:11] <drizzyt> can someone help me configure gproftpd
[09:11] <Wicks> Grinnblade: Yep, thats what I would do. Download both text based and LiveCD (handy to have both anyway)  Oxford Uni Comp Sci is a good mirror
[09:11] <lee__> Oh I remebr now
[09:11] <WaltzingAlong> sauvin: ok and?
[09:12] <lee__> I couldnt figure out how to configure my video graphics card on it lol
[09:12] <Evanlec> question: is there a way to "uninstall" a .deb package i downloaded and installed (not from repo) ?
[09:12] <Kudak> guys, i redefined my resolution to a higher one by editing xlog.conf but the screen is like out of propurtion, its like the desktop is bigger than my screen and i need to move mouse to get parts, how do i make the resolution fixed to the monitor ?
[09:12] <tom__> hey guys i need to back up 2 hdd's onto another one before i install gutsy, how can i do it and make sure everything is there afterwards?
[09:12] <erichj> Evanlec, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[09:12] <Evanlec> erichj, thanks, will the package show up in synaptic?
[09:12] <erichj> yes
[09:12] <GreySim> Evanlec: That will work even though you didn't use apt-get to install it.
[09:12] <WaltzingAlong> Evanlec: sudo aptitude purge <package>
[09:12] <lee__> eh in the add remove programs ther is a back up utility floating in there som wehre
[09:13] <Evanlec> which is it, apt-get or aptitude?
[09:13] <GreySim> lee__: Yes, though I don't know how well it works.
[09:13] <astro76> Evanlec, either
[09:13] <WaltzingAlong> Evanlec: you can use either. i prefer aptitude
[09:13] <riotkittie> Evanlec: either is fine
[09:13] <lee__> yeah, me niehter
[09:13] <drizzyt> can someone help me configure a proftpd server
[09:13] <Evanlec> o k
[09:13] <GreySim> lee__: Believe there are several, in fact.
[09:13] <erichj> i prefer apt-get
[09:13] <erichj> dpkg works as well
[09:13] <lee__> say this is bring back a lot of programming memores form when I had my c-64 lol
[09:13] <Kudak> guys, my desktop is bigger than my monitor, how do i make the desktop fixed on monitor size ?
[09:14] <WaltzingAlong> Kudak: virtual desktop size?
[09:14] <Kudak> without reducing resolution ofcorse
[09:14] <Kudak> WaltzingAlong: i changed it to 1280x1024
[09:14] <lee__> erg i had that issue too at one time..eh the othe reason why I h it the panic button and loaded the ati drivers
[09:14] <chetnick> drizzyt
[09:14] <chetnick> http://www.howtoforge.com/proftpd_mysql_virtual_hosting_p2
[09:14] <chetnick> there si configuration file
[09:14] <scrotles> what would be funnier.  While plugged into an extention cord, dropping my CRT monitor off the garage, or hitting the screen with a hammer?
[09:14] <scrotles> hi
[09:14] <scrotles> what would be funnier.  While plugged into an extention cord, dropping my CRT monitor off the garage, or hitting the screen with a hammer?
[09:15] <Grinnblade> Wicks: Thank you for your help. I'm gonna head to bed now and let these two isos download. Hopefully it works this time, heh.
[09:15] <lee__> guarage
[09:15] <heguru> !ot
[09:15] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:15] <lee__> but make sure there are no pees and pets
[09:15] <Wicks> Grinnblade: No worries, Good luck!
[09:15] <lee__> and a 25 foot radius for flying galss
[09:15] <lee__> lol
[09:15] <dn4> ok I just enabled nvidia glx for my computer and lost my gui, how do I get that back?
[09:16] <lee__> one thing is for sure I cna not believe how simple code coretion can be i nthis
[09:16] <lee__> and to be alowed into the kernal
[09:16] <lee__> no wonder why windows is so miffed
[09:17] <Kudak> how do i set my monitor to be at a certain resolution? (not screen res,  monitor res)
[09:17] <riotkittie> miffed?
[09:17] <lee__> waht I can not beilieve is that linux found everything
[09:17] <ejot_> if i want to reconfigure ubuntu, what command do i run? like the one you get when installing?
[09:18] <lee__> I thaught for sure I would have 8 channel suround sound
[09:18] <dn4> Kudak: /etc/X11/xorg.cfg
[09:18] <dn4> nano that up
[09:18] <SuperQ> ejot_: that's a tough one
[09:18] <erichj> ejot_, what do you want to configure?
[09:18] <astro76> ejot_, what do you need to reconfigure specifically?
[09:18] <SuperQ> ejot_: there really isn't a "reconfigure everything"
[09:18] <lee__> oh how can I check if Iam in 32 or 24 bit color mode
[09:18] <Evanlec> recompile kernel? ;p
[09:18] <ejot_> what i can think of now, the keymap :)
[09:18] <drizzyt> has anyone had experience with gproftpd?
[09:18] <lee__> it kinda looks like 24
[09:19] <Evanlec> thats a reconfigure everything sorta...but its a lot more fun ;)
[09:19] <SuperQ> lee__: there really isn't a 32bit mode
[09:19] <lee__> oh
[09:19] <lee__> ooohh
[09:19] <SuperQ> lee__: X only supports 24bit with alpha channels
[09:19] <SuperQ> afaik
[09:19] <lee__> one of them windows trics eh
[09:19] <dave__> Is there anything here with knowledge of hostapd? Trying to make an access point of my router.
[09:19] <Kudak> dn4: what do i need to change there in the monitor section ?
[09:19] <Evanlec> 32bit mode would be nice esp for wine ... certain games want your desktop in 32bpp
[09:19] <SuperQ> Evanlec: it should emulate it I think
[09:20] <bmt2> exit
[09:20] <notdarkyet_> what commands do i use to do an AAlib conversion of a jpg file
[09:20] <ethik> OW
[09:20] <ethik> Migrane
[09:20] <lee__> eh ok then how do i get it to use the 128 megs of rma instead of 32 lol
[09:20] <ethik> Im gonna stab WINE
[09:20] <riotkittie> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep DefaultDepth
[09:20] <Evanlec> SuperQ, well maybe, but i know i had to patch the wine source and build it manually to get rid of the 32bpp problem
[09:20] <SuperQ> Evanlec: huh
[09:20] <SuperQ> Evanlec: I guess I havn't played with that much
[09:20] <notdarkyet_> what commands do i use to do an AAlib conversion of a jpg file
[09:20] <notdarkyet_> ??
[09:20] <notdarkyet_> anyone know
[09:21] <dn4> Does anyone know the generic display driver for ubuntu?
[09:21] <qBert^> notdarkyet_, probably mencoder
[09:21] <Kudak> how do i config my monitor ???
[09:21] <SuperQ> notdarkyet_: apt-get install libaa-bin
[09:21] <SuperQ> notdarkyet_: I think
[09:21] <Evanlec> dn4, generic display driver for linux is VESA, there is no specific to ubuntu
[09:21] <qBert^> notdarkyet_, or convert (imagemagick)
[09:22] <lee__> eh for real...how do i step it up from 32 megs to 128?
[09:22] <Evanlec> lee__, what ever do you mean
[09:22] <lee__> the card its self has that much lol
[09:23] <Evanlec> your video card?
[09:23] <notdarkyet_> superQ aalib is installed and i can get movies working fine, just dont know how to play with images
[09:23] <lee__> evanlec , my card is 128 megs yet its reading 32 megs
[09:23] <Evanlec> lee__, how do you know that?
[09:23] <Evanlec> and what card is it
[09:24] <ethik> g'night everyone
[09:24] <erichj> night
[09:24] <lee__> the card is sell has 128 megs of ddr ram...becasue  when I had windows its said tht it was 128 and I checked the card and it is 128 megs
[09:24] <lee__> its an ati x300
[09:24] <Kudak> how can i fit my desktop to my monitor? i need to scroll with mouse cuz desktop too big
[09:25] <erichj> aahhh so integrated
[09:25] <Ademan> for ShipIt i have the option of getting 10 CDs, am i required at all to give them away? I mean i can think of 3 or so people who i'd give the cds to, but, certainly not 8, i trust there wouldn't be any legal problems, but what's really "expected" of me if i were to request 10 cds?
[09:25] <annaimkonki> powerpc [mac] : need help.. can i install ubuntu on an oLd mac computer>> specs: PowerMac 6500 series
[09:25] <Ademan> certainly not 10*
[09:25] <lee__> pci express x16
[09:25] <Evanlec> lee__, and how do you know that its only using 32mb in ubuntu?
[09:25] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: yes
[09:25] <lee__> eh thats what my catylyst is saying
[09:25] <Ademan> !ppc | annaimkonki
[09:25] <lee__> but i have no weay ovf verifying it
[09:26] <annaimkonki> SuperQ: i read the wiki about install and it says Oldworld mac are not supported
[09:26] <lee__> the vids arent as shard as they once were
[09:26] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: ohhh
[09:26] <annaimkonki> Ademan: ppc... yes
[09:26] <Javid^> how do I get rid of a package that keeps eternally wanting to upgrade to the exact same version?
[09:26] <Javid^> ethik, do "winecfg"
[09:26] <Javid^> erm.
[09:26] <Javid^> how do I get rid of a package that keeps eternally wanting to upgrade to the exact same version?
[09:26] <Javid^> x.x ok, ignore me, c/p issues
[09:26] <Evanlec> lee__, sharp? that has to do with your video codecs not your video ram
[09:26] <Ademan> annaimkonki: i kinda expected ubotu to have something useful to say, like a list of supported processors
[09:26] <lee__> how do i truely check?
[09:26] <lee__> ah
[09:26] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: that's a beige box one right?
[09:27] <lee__> how do i check to see what  my trure running ram is?
[09:27] <heguru> lee__: ati x300 has 32meg built-in actually. it can *borrow* memory from system RAM if needed to make total ram upto 128M
[09:27] <annaimkonki> the specs of the ppc says 250 mhz machine speed
[09:27] <Evanlec> lee__, u can try running lspci and see what it detects
[09:27] <lee__> its also saying i have a clockspeed of 329
[09:27] <Evanlec> lee__, there ya go, heguru has your answer
[09:28] <lee__> how do i ecute that and where?
[09:28] <erichj> and you can set the limit to how much ram it borrows in your bios
[09:28] <annaimkonki> SuperQ: yes its kinda white..  certainly not the ones on circuit city
[09:28] <Evanlec> lee__, from terminal type lspci
[09:28] <heguru> lee__: read specifications at ati.com
[09:28] <ubotu> annaimkonki: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[09:28] <heguru> HyperMemory
[09:28] <heguru> Technology that builds on the bandwidth of PCI Express, PC system memory andATI software to deliver performance for desktop and mobile graphics using loweramounts of local graphics memory.
[09:28] <annaimkonki> looks like an old computer SuperQ...
[09:29] <lee__> erg ok give me a few to digest this lol
[09:29] <Ademan> WOW ubotu took its sweet time to respond...
[09:29] <annaimkonki> ubotu: thanks will take a look at that wiki
[09:29] <drizzyt> does anyone have experience with gproftpd, or setting up an ftp server throught NAT?
[09:29] <Javid^> how do I get rid of a package that keeps eternally wanting to upgrade to the exact same version?
[09:29] <Javid^> I already did an aptitude hold on all of them
[09:29] <heguru> lee__: x300 (infact all x series) use HyperMemory Technology, both desktop and notebook versions
[09:29] <lee__> it pulled mre then the video lol just a sec
[09:30] <lee__> yeppers
[09:30] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: http://www.mac-pro.com/s.nl/it.A/id.106/.f?sc=2&category=64
[09:30] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: one of those?
[09:30] <erichj> yeah, it shows you everything on your pci bus
[09:30] <Evanlec> Javid^, you can remove the repository ...
[09:30] <erichj> drizzyt, what exactly do you need to know?
[09:30] <Javid^> The package is in the main repos. That wouldn't be wise
[09:31] <annaimkonki> SuperQ: yes.. which OS or distros is best for old macs or pcs?
[09:31] <Evanlec> Javid^, which package is it, are u on feisty?
[09:31] <Javid^> yes
[09:31] <Javid^> and it's firefox
[09:31] <Evanlec> ooh
[09:31] <annaimkonki> just want it for internet/word processing... maybe some more if it can handle it
[09:31] <Evanlec> thats a rather important one i spose
[09:31] <sauvin> A distro for PPC-based mac might be problematic.
[09:31] <Javid^> There's a PPC ubuntu feisty
[09:31] <Evanlec> Javid^, when u run synaptic does it say anything is broken?
[09:31] <Javid^> nope
[09:32] <Evanlec> Javid^, did u do a apt-get autoremove ?
[09:32] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: Yellow Dog might be a good option
[09:32] <lee__> its an ati  hmm its anx300se lol
[09:32] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: it used to be the good speciatly OS
[09:32] <Javid^> Evanlec, just did it now
[09:32] <Evanlec> Javid^, that probly wont fix it, i had the same problem once but it was a 3rd party repo so i just removed the repo
[09:32] <Javid^> the package in question IS an equivs-made dummy package I made just to get apt to shut the hell up
[09:33] <lee__> ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE] 
[09:33] <Javid^> I guess they just aren't that great
[09:33] <lee__> eh thats one of things i am getting
[09:33] <Javid^> !info equivs
[09:33] <ubotu> equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (feisty), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB
[09:34] <lee__> the otherline says exact same thing only
[09:34] <lee__> PCIE
[09:34] <annaimkonki> thanks SuperQ
[09:34] <Evanlec> !info preload
[09:34] <ubotu> preload: adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-3 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 172 kB
[09:34] <lee__> nothinbg about ram or any thing
[09:34] <Evanlec> anyone ever used preload?
[09:34] <phpcurious> hi ... i was trying to follow steps to Windows DualBoot with Ubuntu ... and when I am in partitioning part of installing ubuntu, it says manual partitioning but there are no choices to partition ... ? what did i overlook here?
[09:34] <CyberMad> how do i know what is speed of my RAM ? there are PC 2700, 3200, etc
[09:35] <Evanlec> CyberMad, only real way i think is through your system BIOS, check your ram clock speed...otherwise you need to know what chips you bought
[09:35] <Javid^> there really needs to just be a "not interested" option on updates
[09:35] <heguru> lee__: X300SE should be 64MB, 128MB or 256MB
[09:35] <Evanlec> Javid^, lol, agreed
[09:35] <tom__> Javid^: but they are quite important
[09:35] <heguru> lee__: if you run fireglcontrol you can check the detected video RAM
[09:36] <lee__> its not iding any of that
[09:36] <annaimkonki> SuperQ: what about xubuntu.. isn't it for older pcs??
[09:36] <Javid^> the cool thing about having my own computer is I get to decide what's important to put on it
[09:36] <CyberMad> Evanlec how to calculate from RAM Clock speed to get PCxxxx?
[09:36] <lee__> is that in the box to?
[09:36] <Javid^> is it utterly critical that I endlessly update firefox with the exact same deb? XD
[09:36] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: it is, but I don't know how much PPC support there is
[09:36] <Javid^> I think not.
[09:36] <phpcurious> if there is any other way to manually create partitions in ubuntu ...
[09:36] <m0m> bye, bye !!!
[09:36] <SuperQ> annaimkonki: Ubuntu has kinda drifted away from PPC support :(
[09:37] <tom__> Javid^: but the guys at ubuntu want to have a secure distro so they want people to update
[09:37] <lee__> that comand is not found
[09:37] <Evanlec> CyberMad, im not exactly sure..check here http://www.lyberty.com/encyc/articles/tech/RAM.html
[09:37] <lee__> flgrx is not found
[09:37] <Javid^> tom__, do you understand the problem I am having at all?
[09:37] <Javid^> because if you did you would know why such a feature would be useful
[09:38] <tom__> Javid^: i was just generally commenting on the update notifications.
[09:38] <Javid^> yeah, and 99% of the time you're right
[09:38] <Evanlec> i think such a feature would not only be useful but would add safety, look at all the people that got borked from the latest gutsy updates
[09:38] <Javid^> but the inflexibility of the program causes problems when someone screws up
[09:38] <tom__> Evanlec: if you are running a beta distro you are asking to get borked
[09:38] <lee__> eh ok i downloafded it lol
[09:39] <Scourged> I have a problem.. I removed ubuntu and now i cant access vista anymore.. can sombody help me plz_
[09:39] <Evanlec> tom__, well okay, thats true i spose....
[09:39] <tom__> Evanlec: :)
[09:39] <lee__> but not sure if it installed or not
[09:39] <nrdb> Hi can I use the program 'webcam' to get pictures on my local drive without going though a ftp server ?
[09:39] <lee__> eh what was that comand again?
[09:40] <cultavix> good morning
[09:40] <cultavix> ;)
[09:40] <protocol1> is there a reason why my linux changes my windows vista time?
[09:40] <Scourged> I have a problem.. I removed ubuntu and now i cant access vista anymore.. can sombody help me plz
[09:40] <gordonjcp> nrdb: have a look in the man page
[09:40] <Kudak> in Screen Resolution the highest refresh rate i have is 53Mhz but my monitor supports up to 75Mhz, how can i change that ?
[09:40] <tom__> protocol1: are you sure it's linux that's doing it?
[09:40] <protocol1> I adjusted a setting before to fix that
[09:40] <gordonjcp> nrdb: there seems to be an  option "archive" to do that
[09:40] <Javid^> your biggest problem is that you have a vista infestation, here's the number of a reliable exterminator
[09:40] <protocol1> it was in linux
[09:41] <Javid^> Scourged, boot into the windows recovery console from your cd and do "fixmbr"
[09:41] <coldsteal> hello
[09:41] <nrdb> gordonjcp: it says to use ~/.webcamrc but then doesn't explain all the setup options.
[09:41] <coldsteal> i have a quick questio for u guys
[09:41] <protocol1> tom_, yes it was
[09:41] <protocol1> tom__, yup
[09:41] <coldsteal> does vfat.org resolve?
[09:41] <tom__> protocol1: how do you know?
[09:41] <gordonjcp> nrdb: the man page tells you what the setup options are
[09:42] <protocol1> tom__, it done it with previous installations
[09:42] <SuperQ> coldsteal: vfat.org has address 72.131.79.176
[09:42] <CyberMad> thanks Evanlec
[09:42] <nrdb> gordonjcp: not the one I have. :(
[09:42] <tom__> protocol1: it's pretty strange that ubuntu does anything at all with your vista inst.
[09:42] <Scourged> Javid, from my vista cd ,questionmark,
[09:42] <protocol1> tom__, upgraded to gutsy and its back again
[09:42] <Evanlec> CyberMad, np
[09:42] <lee__> wwwwoooah i got a second thingy
[09:42] <coldsteal> SuperQ: yes but in a browser does it work?
[09:42] <gordonjcp> nrdb: yes, the one you have, assuming you're on feisty
[09:42] <Javid> Scourged, yes exactly
[09:42] <Javid> scourged, or an XP CD
[09:42] <Scourged> ill try... thanks
[09:43] <protocol1> tom__, there was something I adjusted in a config and it fixed that
[09:43] <protocol1> going to google it up again
[09:43] <tom__> protocol1: no idea man sorry
[09:43] <Scourged> the problem is that i tryed to install win95 ones and it totaly destryed my vista
[09:44] <Scourged> but ubuntu may not have don that
[09:44] <protocol1> tom__, I think I just need to get linux to use local time
[09:44] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[09:44] <Javid> ...win95?
[09:44] <lee__> hegure its truely saying its running at 32megs
[09:44] <protocol1> but I am trying to find that setting
[09:44] <doktoreas> is there a html/javascript development framework for ubuntu?
[09:44] <vega-> how do i find out if ALC888 audio chip is supported in the kernel? thinking of buying a mb with that integrated
[09:45] <Scourged> yes... i was gonna try it on a partition but it messed up vistas
[09:45] <vega-> grepping kernel sources gives something but i'm not really sure
[09:45] <Evanlec> vega-, i have the ALC 882 chip and had flawless support out of the box
[09:46] <Scourged> ok ill try to recover it... and if it doesnt work ill come back here.. hehe
[09:46] <Scourged> cya later maybe.....
[09:49] <nrdb> gordonjcp: I have gotten somewhere with this, but now I am getting a weird error message, I have a line "local transfer /tmp/uploading.jpeg => /tmp/webcam.jpeg" "open filename: No such file or directory" :(
[09:50] <gordonjcp> nrdb: no idea, I don't use webcam
[09:50] <jodi2> hello guys
[09:50] <gordonjcp> nrdb: if you're still about in roughly half an hour when I get to work, I'll see if I can help
[09:50] <jodi2> could someadvise me if there is a txt browser on ubuntu
[09:50] <gordonjcp> nrdb: in the mean time, keep at it
[09:50] <gordonjcp> nrdb: sounds like it either can't write to /tmp, or isn't writing /tmp/upload.jpg
[09:51] <Evanlec> !info lynx | jodi2
[09:51] <ubotu> jodi2: lynx: Text-mode WWW Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.5-2ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1088 kB, installed size 4584 kB
[09:51] <riotkittie> jodi2: i dont think theres one preinstalled but you can find elinks links links2 lynx [so on and so forth]  in the repos
[09:52] <Evanlec> riotkittie, just out of curiosity which of those do you prefer?
[09:52] <Evanlec> i found lynx to be....abysmal
[09:52] <jodi2> thanx you guys allways save me
[09:53] <riotkittie> Evanlec: i cant really say i have a preference. i've only used elinks since returning to linux, and my experience with any others is so far gone it can't be relevant
[09:53] <Evanlec> riotkittie, ah ok, thot there might be one a little nicer than lynx
[09:53] <Evanlec> riotkittie, esp cuz i use mutt as my primary mailreader, it pipes to lynx
[09:54] <Kudak> anyone here read the book Hacking Linux Revelaed ?
[09:55] <jodi2> anybody installed squirrelmail
[09:55] <chris00_297247> see my naked ex on www.nackte-ex.de.gg   <my revange!
[09:56] <Evanlec> jodi2, isnt that a webmail reader?
[09:56] <jodi2> evanlec it is
[09:57] <Evanlec> then you wouldnt install it, u just use your web rbwoser
[09:57] <Evanlec> *browser
[09:57] <nrdb> I am using the gspca module to access my webcam, but it is very dark, I have been unable to find any program that will control the brightness, even spcagui doesn't affect it.  is there a way to control the brightness ?  maybe argument to the kernel module.
[09:57] <jodi2> i need to install it so my partners can get there mail via a web interface
[09:58] <ultraviolet_> hi, i had ubuntu-server 6.06 installed in my comp, and i just installed gutsy in other partition. now that it works fine, i want to remove the other partition and resize the gutsy one for the whole disk. i tried to do that with gparted, but the server partition seems to be blocked, and it recommends i do it manually. how do i do that?
[09:58] <jodi2> were running postfix/courier mysql
[09:59] <Arafangion> Hey, why might I be running out of ptys?
[09:59] <Evanlec> jodi2, oh you want to serve it ... beyond my expertise
[09:59] <Arafangion> I can't load a new terminal.
[09:59] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: I wouldn't try that, you could mount the other partition as /home or something like that.
[10:01] <karmelek> know somebody how to install extcalendar?
[10:01] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i will be able to use it with gutsy data?
[10:01] <Evanlec> ultraviolet_, yes
[10:02] <longneck> how would i get the distribution upgrde to look at the cd for the upgrade?
[10:02] <ultraviolet_> ok, and how do i do that? sorry for the stupid question, but i'm really beginning with linux
[10:03] <dave__> Is there anything here with knowledge of hostapd? Trying to make an access point of my router.
[10:03] <longneck> wow! there is realy good suport in here
[10:04] <IronFlint> ??
[10:04] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: 1) backup anything you want on the partition. 2) copy you current /home partition into the root of the partition 3) create an entry in you /etc/fstab 4) reboot.
[10:04] <Arafangion> IronFlint: He's being sarcastic.
[10:05] <IronFlint> i noticed
[10:05] <Javid> is there a specific distro of ubuntu for tablet PCs?
[10:05] <IronFlint> lol
[10:05] <longneck> ara:: if your talking about me, I am not a (HE)
[10:05] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: do you know how to mount partitions ?
[10:05] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, thanks
[10:05] <longneck> I am a SHE
[10:05] <omnius> how do i mount my hda when using the liveCD?
[10:05] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, not manually. i used ubuntu installation CD to create the other ones
[10:05] <Arafangion> longneck: Sorry, if you're so sensitive, why don't you suggest a gender-neutral pronoun?
[10:06] <Arafangion> longneck: One that is gramatically correct.
[10:06] <longneck> woman can have long necks to thank you!
[10:06] <mrak> longneck: wow ... i see first woman/miss who use linux
[10:06] <Arafangion> longneck: Forgive me for not noticing your long neck on irc.
[10:07] <longneck> you can tell your a man (dick ) is poping out of ya
[10:07] <Arafangion> !ops
[10:07] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[10:07] <mrak> omnius: mount /dev/<your dev> /where/u/want
[10:07] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok step by step, have you got access to the computer now ? are you using for this communication ?
[10:07] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, yes
[10:08] <omnius> Hey guys! How do I mount my hda as root when while I'm using the LiveCD?
[10:08] <omnius> cheers mrak
[10:08] <RHLinuxGUY> omg that is a lot of users
[10:08] <ultraviolet_> mrak, i also a SHE, and i use linux. is that so remarkable?
[10:08] <Arafangion> RHLinuxGUY: Not really. :)
[10:08] <RHLinuxGUY> o
[10:09] <Arafangion> ultraviolet_: Some think so, it seems. :(
[10:09] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok, so you can't reboot it so all the setup needs to be done before resetting.
[10:09] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: is there anything important you want to keep on the partition ?
[10:09] <omnius> mrak How do I mount it as root?
[10:09] <mrak> ultraviolet_: i dont know any1 ... so for me yes  ;)
[10:10] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, not at all
[10:10] <boyssuck> that was stupid ass hole!!!!!
[10:10] <boyssuck> Fuck you
[10:10] <astro76> !ops
[10:10] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[10:10] <rob> sigh
[10:10] <rob> he left
[10:10] <RHLinuxGUY> Hello everyone, my question is as follows:  I can't mix audio from multiple applications, with the exception of a couple. (Flash 9 & mplayer)  If I try to run audio on one app, any others don't work.  How do I fix this?
[10:10] <RHLinuxGUY> I'm using the latest version of Ubuntu
[10:10] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok, is there plenty of spare space on the partition ?
[10:10] <mrak> omnius: i wrote that
[10:11] <max_bizzle> if we didnt have Radia Perlman and ada lovelace we'd be in shit street
[10:11] <ultraviolet_> RHLinuxGUY, there's another channel for developing versions #ubuntu+1
[10:11] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, 15Gb
[10:11] <RHLinuxGUY> ultraviolet_: o no wait, I should have said latest stable version of Ubuntu. 7.04
[10:11] <mrak> omnius: sudo mount /dev/hda /media/(or somethin)
[10:12] <scoobydoo28139> Can I get some help upgrading?
[10:12] <Puppet> 1234567890qwertzuiopasdfghjklyxcvbnm
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> scoobydoo28139: Not until you change your attitude and learn how to behave in Ubuntu channels.
[10:12] <Puppet> any1 from exYugoslavia?
[10:12] <ultraviolet_> RHLinuxGUY, sorry.
[10:12] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: that should be enough.  how many users are setup for that computer ?
[10:13] <scoobydoo28139> tonyyarusso:?
[10:13] <RHLinuxGUY> ultraviolet_: np
[10:13] <opexoc> How can I check if my samba server is running?
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> scoobydoo28139: Yes, I know who you are/were.  Surprised?
[10:13] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, two: me and a root account
[10:13] <jodi2> how do i unstall a program i installed and decided i dont want
[10:13] <scoobydoo28139> tonyyarusso:???
[10:14] <Garthemus> jodi2:  start synaptics, find the program, right click -> uninstall
[10:14] <ultraviolet_> jodi2, sudo apt-get remove nameoftheprogram
[10:14] <Garthemus> or that too
[10:14] <jodi2> thanks
[10:14] <Garthemus> :)
[10:14] <Arafangion> scoobydoo28139: For crying out loud, stop pretending, "shuttle".
[10:14] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: fyi, root isn't a seperate account.    ok,  cd to the /home directory
[10:14] <mrak> opexoc: try to login :)
[10:14] <omnius> right what I'm trying to do is delete a users folder in the home directory
[10:14] <scoobydoo28139> I have a shuttle
[10:14] <omnius> i need to be root
[10:14] <scoobydoo28139> xpc
[10:14] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok
[10:14] <max_bizzle> opexoc -  ps aux |grep smbd
[10:15] <omnius> i keep getting " you dont have permission"
[10:15] <mrak> jodi2: aptitude purge <name_of_package>
[10:15] <scoobydoo28139> I am a registered user
[10:15] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: do a 'ls' you should see one directory ?
[10:15] <Arafangion> scoobydoo28139: So?
[10:15] <opexoc> max_bizzle: why smbd if when I want to start samba then I execute /etc/init.d/samba start?
[10:15] <omnius> so I want to mount the file system so i can delete anything
[10:15] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, yes, my name on it
[10:16] <mrak> omnius: for test of running samba ... i think no ;)
[10:16] <scoobydoo28139> what are you talking about? you lost me....
[10:16] <mrak> omnius: sorry another nick ;)
[10:16] <Arafangion> Pity the ops don't ban people for just being stupid.
[10:16] <max_bizzle> opexoc - because thats the name of the samba daemon process
[10:16] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: is the partition you want to use mounted ?
[10:16] <opexoc> max_bizzle: wierd, thx :)
[10:17] <max_bizzle> opexoc - have you done any research on running samba?
[10:17] <riotkittie> we're talking about your being obnoxious, and then coming back on new handles
[10:17] <scoobydoo28139> I am trying to find out about upgrades, anyone upi for a chalange?
[10:17] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i can see it in gparted, it's hda2 and hda6 (linux swap). what is it, by the way?
[10:18] <Evanlec> in xchat what button do i press to automatically insert the last nickname i spoke to??
[10:18] <opexoc> max_bizzle: what do you mean? I have check this command ps -aux | grep smbd and it throws that the server is running.
[10:18] <Damjan> Are the new kde python updates necessary ?
[10:18] <opexoc> max_bizzle: how can I check which deamons are running now on my ubuntu?
[10:19] <CyberMad> how do you check memory speed from BIOS ?
[10:19] <max_bizzle> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[10:19] <Madpilot> Evanlec, I don't think XChat has a function like that
 do you know how to upgrade to 7.10? or do i need to goto the testers room?
[10:19] <Damjan> CyberMad use mem86 in grub
[10:19] <Evanlec> Madpilot, no function like that? do u know what im referring to, Konversation has it...
[10:20] <mrak> opexoc: try to telnet lcoalhost 139 or 445
[10:20] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: swap is the partition used for the Linux virtual memory, its ok.  I presume that hda1 has the install you want to keep ?
[10:20] <Madpilot> scoobydoo28139, #ubuntu+1 for all upgrade questions, please, including how to upgrade.
[10:20] <Madpilot> Evanlec, never used Konv, but I've never seen a feature like that in any IRC app
[10:20] <scoobydoo28139> madpilot: ok thanks
[10:20] <CyberMad> Damjan ok
[10:20] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i also presume that : ) but I'm willing to take risks
[10:21] <opexoc> mrak: I know how check if samba is running. Now I want to know which deamons are running
[10:21] <max_bizzle> scoobydoo28139, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/
[10:21] <Evanlec> Madpilot, in Konversation if you were speaking with someone, all you had to do was press tab and their nick would appear and you could just type your msg
[10:21] <Damjan> CyberMad let it run one hour, maybe or more time, depends how much ram do you have
[10:21] <mrak> opexoc: thats way how to check it
[10:21] <Madpilot> Evanlec, most irc apps can do tab-complete - just type the first three letters or so of the nick.
[10:22] <mrak> opexoc: if is listening on this port u suer its runnning
[10:22] <Evanlec> Madpilot, yes i know thats what i do now, but like if im only talking to one person, i shouldnt have to type in those letters over and over
[10:22] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: we can find out, if you type the command 'cat /proc/mounts' near the top you should see a line like '/dev/hda1 / ext3 ....'
[10:22] <Damjan> why the my computer is where slow now, while I'm updating ubuntu?
[10:23] <mrak> opexoc: /usr/sbin/nmbd -D; /usr/sbin/smbd -D name of deamons
[10:24] <opexoc> mrak: Firstly, this commands throw nothing. Secondly, I want to know about every deamon in my system.
[10:24] <Arafangion> opexoc: ps aux | less
[10:24] <m1lkc0w> I have some issues with the aspell packages on Gutsy Gibbon. An automatic update failed and ever since, post-installation of packages complains about issues with aspell. Reinstalling aspell via Synaptic didn't work either (same error)
[10:25] <opexoc> Arafangion: but there are many other process I want to know about only deamons.
[10:25] <riotkittie> m1lkc0w: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support, please
[10:25] <m1lkc0w> riotkittie: Thanks
[10:25] <Damjan> Does nvidia geforce 4400 will work better in Gutsy?
[10:25] <mrak> opexoc: i think ... u need firstly know something about linux ;)
[10:25] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, my that might help: at gparted it finds: hda1 ext3 20Gb | hda3 ext3 15Gb (boot flagged) |  hda2 extended 1Gb | hda6 linux-swap 684Mb | hda5 linux-swap 684Mb
[10:26] <opexoc> mrak: why? where is a problem?
[10:26] <mrak> opexoc: ps if cmd for check wich processes are running ...
[10:27] <ArmedKing> Damjan: Best way to find out is just try.
[10:28] <opexoc> mrak: yes running, but I know about deamons which are running, not every processes which are running.
[10:28] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, cat output is too long, i don't i can paste it here. is there any particular information you need?
[10:28] <n0000b> does someone can tell me how to write on two lines in open office calc please ? :((
[10:28] <annaimkonki> i installed ubuntu on my pc easily... how do i install it on mac??
[10:28] <opexoc> mrak: yes running, but I want to know about deamons which are running, not every processes which are running.
[10:28] <annaimkonki> ppc
[10:28] <mrak> opexoc: some processes for these are deamons .. for the most part of these end d like proftpd smbd etc
[10:28] <Bo^Dick> mention a good way to ftp in ubuntu?
[10:28] <opexoc> mrak: I know that. But I would like only see deamons.
[10:29] <ultraviolet_> annaimkonki, i have it running fine in a mac, and i installed it the same way i did with my pc. are you having any troubles?
[10:29] <Damjan> ArmedKing, I don't want to risk, I will wait until 20 October or what was the date, for the final release
[10:30] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: no hda2 !  is the partition you want to use visible at /media/hda3 ?
[10:30] <annaimkonki> ultraviolet_: i have  ol os... mac os 8.6
[10:30] <annaimkonki> i don't know how 2 boot it from disc
[10:30] <Damjan> ArmedKing, I will use the beta another year, for now I need full working OS
[10:30] <Bo^Dick> hope gftp is graphics
[10:30] <mrak> opexoc: i think itsnt any way how to check that ... if u know what u find ... find it but if u dont .... im sorry
[10:30] <annaimkonki> ow do u go 2 bios on macs???
[10:31] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: I am trying to get a feel for your setup, so any commands don't do any damage.
[10:31] <Arafangion> mrak: It's a matter of definition, really. To me, a "daemon" is a "very long-lived program".
[10:31] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, in media i have only cdrom and floppy
[10:31] <phpcurious> anybody knows gparted? is it advisable to use gparted to partition Win XP ?
[10:32] <mrak> Arafangion: and how u know after boot ? ;)
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok here's cat output
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> none /sys sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> none /proc proc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> udev /dev tmpfs rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> fusectl /sys/fs/fuse/connections fusectl rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> /dev/disk/by-uuid/33738998-9894-423a-8b6c-c4144c24bac7 / ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> /dev/disk/by-uuid/33738998-9894-423a-8b6c-c4144c24bac7 /dev/.static/dev ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
[10:32] <nrdb> !pastebin
[10:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:32] <Damjan> Does a restart or logging out of a session is necessary, wnen an update is done, if it ask?
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /var/run tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /var/lock tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-generic/volatile tmpfs rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /var/run tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> tmpfs /var/lock tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
[10:32] <mrak> Arafangion: every processes run the same time long
[10:32] <ultraviolet_> securityfs /sys/kernel/security securityfs rw 0 0
[10:33] <Madpilot> ubotu, pastebin | ultraviolet_
[10:33] <ubotu> ultraviolet_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:33] <Arafangion> mrak: The concept of a "service" is not the same as in windows.
[10:33] <x_> how we can run Beryl automatically in start up ?!
[10:34] <ultraviolet_> nrdb ok, just saw the pastebin stuff, but don't know how to use it, just a sec
[10:34] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: can you put it in the pastebin see above.
[10:34] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: cut/paste it in via firefox and give me the url it gives you.
[10:34] <x_> anyone can help me about Beryl ?!?!?!?!?!!
[10:35] <Bo^Dick> in gftp, can i view my local directories in one of the window?
[10:35] <mrak> Arafangion: i know that .. i tried to show u .. its not true every time ;)
[10:35] <Arafangion> mrak: I must've missed it.
[10:36] <Arafangion> mrak: Was it before the flood?
[10:36] <mrak> yes
[10:36] <mrak> ;)
[10:36] <mrak> mrak> Arafangion: and how u know after boot ? ;)
[10:36] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40131/
[10:36] <Madpilot> ubotu, beryl | x_
[10:36] <ubotu> x_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:36] <Arafangion> mrak: Everything is started after boot, by definition. ;)
[10:37] <mrak> Arafangion: does a matter
[10:37] <mrak> ;)
[10:37] <Arafangion> mrak: does a matter?
[10:37] <mrak> Arafangion: my english isnt very well
[10:37] <mrak> sorry
[10:37] <mrak> ;)
[10:38] <Arafangion> mrak: Heh, it's "it", not "a", as you are not referring to any general item, but a particular concept, and it's "good", not "very well", because your english doesn't get sick. :)
[10:38] <ultraviolet_> annaimkonki, you downloaded the Live CD image? which version?
[10:38] <Arafangion> mrak: I've yet to *successfully* learn a second language, so what can I say? :(
[10:39] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok got that !
[10:39] <frojnd> !ndiswapper
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <annaimkonki> ultraviolet_: yes i did... power pc the latest one fiesty
[10:40] <frojnd> !ndiswrapper
[10:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:40] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: can you please do the same with /etc/mtab ?
[10:41] <piao> i found ubuntu 7.10 released
[10:42] <Damjan> what do u mean?
[10:43] <annaimkonki> are there any other alternatives to install linux if it cant boot from cd???
[10:43] <maikeru> piao: the beta you mean?
[10:43] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40132/
[10:43] <piao> when i boot i found grub list non contain dev...
[10:43] <piao> cat /etc/issue  it is ubuntu 7.10
[10:44] <opexoc> Arafangion: so you say that there is any possibility to check if some process is deamon or ordinary process? because there isn't any differance beetwen them?
[10:45] <Arafangion> opexoc: Pretty much, though arguably, you could say that a daemon is a process that was started directly by init.
[10:45] <Arafangion> opexoc: And is therefore, the set of processes whose direct parent is init.
[10:45] <ultraviolet_> annaimkonki, i don't think so. but maybe that may help you: http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-148617.html
[10:46] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ah! hda3 is your main partition.    so we want to mount hda1.   "cd /tmp" then "mkdir hda1"  then "mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /tmp/hda1"
[10:46] <heaven> hy  ppl
[10:47] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: you might need to use "sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /tmp/hda1"
[10:47] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, just did it
[10:47] <dave__> Is there anything here with knowledge of hostapd? Trying to make an access point of my router.
[10:47] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, it's only that?
[10:48] <opexoc> Arafangion: ok. I don't know that that deamon is a process always started by init. If so how can we check what is a parent of a particular process?
[10:48] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: no!  we need to copy the home directory and change you setup slightly.  if you look a /tmp/hda1 you should see the partition you want to use.
[10:49] <heaven> i got a problem i reinstalled ubuntu and in "computer" i have the functional floppy the cd rom "filesistem" partition and another unusable floppy that has 40 GB can anyone tell me at instalation what exactly should i do for: 100 GB storage space , 40 GB linux partition where ubuntu goes installed and 10 GB swap space please PM me i could really use some help
[10:49] <Damjan> Is there a good program for making telephone calls with fax/modem
[10:49] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok
[10:49] <annaimkonki> i have 2 ethernet on my main PC running Ubuntu proudly, my router has only one eternet connection, and it is connected to my main pc... can i jump the connection to the other computer w/the 2nd ethernet port on my pc...
[10:50] <astro76> annaimkonki, yes, but, you really should just get a switch
[10:51] <annaimkonki> astro76: a switch??why... how can this be done...
[10:52] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok now copy the home directory. "cd /tmp/hda1" then "cp -r  /home/* /tmp/hda1"
[10:52] <astro76> astro76, an ethernet switch (like a hub)... because then the 2nd pc is double-NATed... by buying one, a 5 port switch is cheap
[10:52] <astro76> annaimkonki, ^^
[10:52] <gokiwork> Does anyone have any idea why the first time a new user logs in on my system, they are forced to change password? Also, their passwords revert to the first password set when the user is created (at random). In order for my imap daemon to actually work with the user, I need to log back in as the user, and then I am forced to change the password again, at which point it works again for a little while
[10:53] <annaimkonki> astro76: i don't have one now but i need to see if my opther computer is capable of ethernet connection
[10:53] <astro76> annaimkonki, then each pc and the router hook into the switch
[10:53] <gokiwork> It's like the passwords have some weird 10 minute expiry time on them, but I set no expiry up in the kde user settings tool thing
[10:54] <heaven> i got a problem i reinstalled ubuntu and in "computer" i have the functional floppy the cd rom "filesistem" partition and another unusable floppy that has 40 GB can anyone tell me at instalation what exactly should i do for: 100 GB storage space , 40 GB linux partition where ubuntu goes installed and 10 GB swap space please PM me i could really use some help
[10:54] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, sorry but copy to where?
[10:54] <carlos_> hgvg6623
[10:54] <annaimkonki> astro76: my main pc which is connected has two network plugs in it.... can i just plug my 2nd pc to to 2nd ethernet plug for internet...
[10:55] <Arafangion> opexoc: Not entirely sure, right off the top of my head.  ps probably has options for that. See man ps.
[10:56] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: the "cp -r /home/* /tmp/hda1" will copy it the drive mounted at /tmp/hda1 which should be the partition you want to use as your /home directory.
[10:57] <opexoc> Arafangion: ok. I'll check. thx.
[10:57] <frojnd> When I try to compile ralink there is somekind of a error... I don't know what to do to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40134/  Can someone help*
[10:57] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, sorry, i got it wrong. just did it
[10:59] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: if you now do a "ls -lA /tmp/hda1/<name>" you should see all your files.  make sure there are the directories starting with a '.' dot.
[11:00] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: opps! that directory is /tmp/hda1/<name>
[11:00] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, everything is up there
[11:02] <DerangedDingo> hey everyone, I need help sort of fast... how can I get my Stylus C86 printing!? my HP printer before this one worked great until it refused to turn on one day.. what's up? I don't wanna boot windows and have to install the driver.. call me lazy..
[11:02] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok! now we change things.  "cd /" then rename the home directory "sudo mv /home /home_old" then "sudo mkdir /home".
[11:04] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, should i do this from root or from tmp/hda1?
[11:04] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: from root thats why I put in the "cd /"
[11:05] <usr13> DerangedDingo, Load the  gutenprint driver for it and that should do it.
[11:06] <tech0007> hi everyone
[11:08] <Bo^Dick> any alsa gurus in here?
[11:08] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, just did a stupid thing. i closed terminal window, and now it can't open anymore, cause it doesn't find it
[11:09] <Bo^Dick> i'm testing my sound with GNUSound but when i try to change the bitdepth and samplerate to anything attractive the system restarts
[11:10] <Bo^Dick> i've got 1.0.14
[11:10] <Bo^Dick> that's pretty fresh i've been told
[11:10] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, can i access it through nautilus?
[11:10] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: try <alt> and <ctrl> then <f1> then login, and to return to the gui <alt> and <ctrl> then <F7>
[11:10] <kubitz> Hello there I tried to install Ubuntu on a very old computer and it wouldn't even boot up into the live CD so I tried Debian Etch instead, which works fine. I have acouple of questions really. Firstly what type of hardware is likely to create the installation problem and more boradly what dod I lose out on by going with a basic Debian? I'm trying to gauge whether it's worth buying a slightly newer computer and trying again to install
[11:10] <kubitz> Ubuntu?
[11:10] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: i will try again for that message
[11:11] <kubitz> boradly=broadly
[11:11] <kubitz> dod=did
[11:11] <kubitz> sorry about that
[11:11] <Bo^Dick> kubitz: what kind of problems?
[11:11] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: try [alt]  and [ctrl]  then [F1]  and login in, use [alt]  and [ctrl]  then [F7]  to return to the gui.
[11:12] <kubitz> I don't know really the Ubuntu CD just wouldn't load
[11:12] <Bo^Dick> kubitz: black screen?
[11:12] <kubitz> When it got so far the screen went blank
[11:12] <kubitz> yeah I giess it must be the monitor
[11:12] <Bo^Dick> kubitz: i had to start the live cd in safe graphics mode
[11:12] <Mostar> anyone know how i can scan program for my tv tuner?
[11:12] <usr13> kubitz, What processor do you have?
[11:13] <kubitz> 400
[11:13] <Mostar> whats the comand
[11:13] <kubitz> slightly over clocked
[11:13] <kubitz> I gorget what to
[11:13] <Arafangion> kubitz: Debian is less proactive with automatic hardware detection, plus the configuration and bootscripts are nearly completely different.
[11:13] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, nothing happens
[11:13] <Arafangion> kubitz: I suggest reducing that clock, if only for testing.
[11:13] <usr13> kubitz, How much memory?
[11:13] <tech0007> kubitz...tried the alternate CD?
[11:13] <kubitz> 128Meg
[11:13] <Arafangion> kubitz: Also, what graphics card does it have/
[11:13] <kubitz> I know it's disgraceful
[11:13] <pupi120290> i cant change the volume in the gnome volume control... cant even mute it... can anyone help me?
[11:13] <kubitz> I should chuck it really
[11:14] <kubitz> I think it's an nvidia
[11:14] <Arafangion> kubitz: 128MB is fine, but I suggest not using Ubuntu (At least, use XUbuntu if you do use an Ubuntu-based distro)
[11:14] <kubitz> I meant to look
[11:14] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: the [alt]  and [ctrl]  then [F1]  didn't change the screen ?
[11:14] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, but i could also login as root and do all the renaming and cutting in nautilus, isn't it?
[11:14] <kubitz> So why does Debian Etch run fine with Gnome
[11:14] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, not at all
[11:14] <kubitz> Is it more efficient?
[11:15] <Arafangion> kubitz: Gnome is fine, but it will use much more memory than xfce, and in your case, memory is at a particular premium.
[11:15] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: I don't think you are allowed to login as root.
[11:15] <pupi120290> i cant change the volume in the gnome volume control... cant even mute it... can anyone help me?
[11:15] <usr13> Arafangion is right, you'll more than likely be better off not overcloclocking, because if it runs unstable, it will only be a hinderance.  And besides that, you won't see any performance increase between 500 and 400
[11:15] <usr13> MHz
[11:16] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i am, i created a root account, and change the settings, so i can login to gnome as root
[11:16] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i'll try it, if i don't come back anymore, i just wanted to say thanks
 thanks for your advice - to behonest I'm new to Linux but I've used computers for years so I had no trouble with Debian's more traditional install rountine. It actually looks like I can install most of the same stuff as if I ran Ubuntu anyway - is that a fair statement?
[11:16] <usr13> kubitz, But to tell you the truth, 400MHz is about bottom end, (for running X).
[11:16] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok, you could try a 'switch user'
 well I'm actually quite happy now Debian runs a lot faster than Windows 2K on here
[11:17] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: you can reverse the 'mv' with the LiveCD.
[11:17] <usr13> kubitz, I would suggest a faster machine.
[11:17] <Arafangion> kubitz: Personally, if you already have Debian on it, I'd keep it, Ubuntu (imho) primarily wins over Debian in areas of automatically setting stuff up in a nice way, including hardware.
[11:18] <usr13> kubitz, Debian is fine.  If it works stick with it.
 so I would get more form a more modern installation like Ubuntu? Or are you just saying this machine is too old for anytihng now?
[11:19] <Muelli> I need packages with debug symbols for network-manager{,-gnome} but network-manager-dbg only exists for dapper
[11:19] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: hi
[11:19] <usr13> Well, yes, if you were to install Ubuntu, you'd have slightly newer versions of most packages, that's the only difference.
[11:19] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, worked
 I actually like Debian - there's something solid about it
[11:19] <trpr> kubitz: what are the specs? ive run x on p2-350 but it was w/ windowmaker, not gnome / kde. performance was acceptable
[11:19] <kubitz> Perhaps I'm just old fashioned myself :)
[11:20] <kubitz> trpr: KDE is really crap on here
[11:20] <usr13>  kubitz You ARE old fashioned.  [400MHz]    :)
[11:20] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, now i opened terminal. what do i do again?
[11:20] <kubitz> Gnome is ok for speed but i tihnk KDE is too heavy
[11:20] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ok! first lets check the copy to make sure its worked ok.  first 'umount /tmp/hda1'
[11:20] <usr13> kubitz, Yes, KDE might be a little too resource hungry for your system.
[11:21] <kubitz> I have arange of computers from 2.8Gig to 400Meg I just don't like throwing them away :)
[11:21] <usr13> kubitz, What are you doing with the 2.8GHz machine?
[11:21] <trpr> kubitz: anyways, that was a debian install
[11:21] <kubitz> It's running Fedora and Windows 2000
[11:22] <kubitz> I don't like XP much
[11:22] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, "umont: command not found", the umount command path is probably changed now, so it doesn't find it...
[11:22] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: umount
[11:22] <Scourged> who helped me with just now? somone staring with "J"....
 I'm trying out lots of distros at the moment
[11:23] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, that's what i put, just mistyped now
[11:23] <usr13> kubitz, I like Linux.  But XP is better than 2K IMO, but either one is like a boat anchor compared to a modern Linux system.
[11:23] <kubitz> I was hoping one would stand out but they're all good in different ways
[11:23] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: try /bin/umount /tmp/hda1
[11:23] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, worked
[11:24] <usr13> kubitz, Choosing the right distro is all about finding the packages and package management that suits you.
[11:24] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: ah!  the path doesn't seem to be setup. ok we will work around that.
[11:24] <oshiii-_^> oshi-
[11:25] <kubitz> I'm going to try Studio 64 - that media version of Debian soon usr13
[11:25] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: now try "/bin/mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /home"
[11:25] <usr13> kubitz, Yes, they are all good.  You are right.  The difference is in package management.
[11:25] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok
[11:25] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: now "cd /home/[login name] "
[11:26] <usr13> kubitz, Ubuntu / Debian has the most advanced and easiest [to use]  package management system.
[11:26] <ultraviolet_> ok
 yeah after you try a few you realise how different they are. Debian is very good for apt - it seems to always get the dependencies dead right.
[11:26] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: is everything there !
[11:26] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, yup
[11:26] <kubitz> I was least happy with Mandriva - it reminded me too much of XP :)
[11:27] <usr13> kubitz, I have a friend that has just installed Mandriva.  In fact, he has yet to set up repositories.
[11:27] <usr13> I'll be interested to see how he does with it.
[11:28] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: good now to make it automatic.  "nano /etc/fstab"  and add a line at the bottom "/dev/hda1   /home   ext3   defaults   0 0"
[11:28] <pupi120290> hello^^ i cant change the volume in the gnome volume control... cant even mute it... can anyone help me?
[11:28] <kubitz> I wasn't at all happy with the package management in Mandriva.
[11:28] <usr13> pupi120290, Try the headphone control.
[11:28] <usr13> sometimes the contorlls get switched.
[11:28] <kubitz> It looks easier at first but it doesn't seem to work perfectly in my experience
[11:29] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, done.
[11:29] <pupi120290> usr:13 headphone does function
[11:29] <pupi120290> pcm too
[11:29] <pupi120290> b ut master channel not
[11:29] <usr13> kubitz, Doesn't resolve all dependencies, right?
[11:29] <kubitz> I haven't played musch with Fedora yeat cos mu teenage son has taken a liking to it and hogs that box.
[11:29] <Raiders32> I'm using Feisty.  Where can I find the C header files that match the running kernel?
[11:29] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: [ctrl]  O (as in orange) to save
[11:29] <usr13> kubitz, Did you use KDE or Gnome ?
[11:29] <pupi120290> usr13: so how can i switch controlls in right order
 some things I installed in Mandriva disn't work reliably
[11:29] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, saved
 I was using KDE with Mandriva it sets that up by default
[11:30] <tech0007> hi...i cant play Alienarena2007, it exits w/ error Received signal 11, exiting... while loading maps..pls help..am i on the right channel
[11:30] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: [ctrl]  X to exit
[11:30] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok
[11:30] <kubitz> For an inexperienced user like me Mandriva seems harder to modify thatn other distros
[11:30] <usr13> pupi120290,  Right-Click, choose Open Volume Control
[11:31] <nrdb> ok do you see what that is going to do ?
[11:31] <kubitz> If you like the defaults it's great but Debian is easier to change
[11:31] <pupi120290> usr13: and then?
[11:31] <kubitz> From a newbies position anyway
[11:31] <usr13> Try headphone control.
[11:31] <StFS> Hello. I was wondering whether anyone knew if there will be a 2.6.23 kernel package anywhere available for ubuntu feisty or whether there will be some easy to follow howto? I believe there are some patches that are applied to the ubuntu kernels right?
[11:31] <pupi120290> yeah... it does change the volume... but can i make the master channel change the volume?
[11:31] <usr13> kubitz, Ubnutu is the most user friendly.
[11:32] <Raiders32> I'm using Feisty.  Where can I find the C header files that match the running kernel?
[11:32] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: do you see what that is going to do.
[11:32] <kubitz> I'll habe to get a new box and try Ubuntu again usr13
[11:32] <usr13> pupi120290, I don't know.
[11:32] <tech0007> hi...i cant play Alienarena2007, it exits w/ error Received signal 11, exiting... while loading maps..pls help.
[11:33] <kubitz> I suppose I can use most of the Debian stuff I'm learning with Ubuntu anyway from what I read
[11:33] <pupi120290> usr13: bnut thanks... now i know a bit more... bout my prob..
[11:33] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, i supposed i moved everything i had from hda3 to hda1, was that the question?
[11:33] <usr13> kubitz, Yes, Ubuntu is just a pretty version of Debian.
[11:34] <usr13> kubitz, Ubuntu is just Debian-made-easy
[11:34] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, now i need to umount hda3 and resize hda1, isn't it?
[11:34] <kubitz> usr13 that's what I really wanted to hear. I've decided I want to learn Debian anyway. It seems to be very community orientated which I like
[11:35] <usr13> kubitz, And you can get your Debian system as cutting edge as Ubuntu, you just have to juggle the repositories a bit.
[11:35] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: if you reset now, you should be able to log in.  if every thing goes ok you will need to clean the /home directory. of all the extra directory left over. (i.e. everything but the [user name]  directory).   Got to go for dinner now will check back latter to see if things are OK.
[11:35] <Arafangion> usr13: I wouldn't recommend it.
[11:36] <Arafangion> usr13: I prefer to keep it /very/ stable, and older software tends to be less memory hungry, anyway.
[11:36] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, ok. thanks a lot
[11:36] <Arafangion> usr13: (Simply because it does a little bit less)
[11:36] <tsurc>  I'm having a few problems with iptables. want to be able to force and trafic from the "pupils group" to use the port dansguardians listening on. But I just can't see the wood for the trees, anyone any ideas? easily understandable tutorials/howtos?
[11:36] <ultraviolet_> nrdb, really. have a nice dinner
[11:36] <usr13> Arafangion is right, you can get into trouble doing that - can wreck the system and have a hard time fixing it again.
[11:36] <nrdb> ultraviolet_: see you latter.
[11:36] <kubitz> usr13 yeah I've already got the newsest version of flash, but looking at what Arafangion says yes I did shy away from the latest Java RE. It looks too heavy for this box
[11:37] <kubitz> And most sites work with 1.4
[11:37] <WaltzingAlong> tom_d: ok
[11:37] <gorganalmighty> quick question to everyone: How safe is it to remove checkfs.sh from the start-up sequence?  I know how to do it manually, but I don't want to remove it if its really important.
[11:37] <tom_d> that is, choosing ubuntu over just debian, where i'd probably have to do more work to get things the way i want them
[11:37] <DarthShrine> How do I install a PCF font? I've done it the same way as TTF fonts but it isn't being installed..
[11:38] <Arafangion> gorganalmighty: How important is your data to you?
[11:38] <kubitz> I have to go to the pub now - well I don't have to but you know what I mean. Seeya when I have Ubuntu!
[11:38] <cjae> is there no more ddwrt channel on freenode
[11:39] <gorganalmighty> Arangion: thats not very helpful
[11:39] <cjae> I guess that would be a contradiction hey
[11:39] <Arafangion> gorganalmighty: On the contrary, its' an extremely helpful response.
[11:39] <usr13> kubitz, THat could be true (about latest Java RE), don't know for sure, but Java RE can bog down even a high end system
[11:40] <Arafangion> usr13: He's gone, and Java's bog is primarily in just liking buckets of RAM.
[11:40] <gorganalmighty> Arafangion: obviously my data is important, but how important is checkfs in protecting my data?
[11:40] <cherva> i have a problem with supercaramba the themes are not updating, but when i click on update from the right mouse menu the theme updates once
[11:40] <opexoc> When I want to mounting a samba share that:
[11:41] <opexoc> opexoc@opexoc:~$ smbmount //myserver/myshare ~/mnt
[11:41] <opexoc> 8488: Connection to myserver failed
[11:41] <opexoc> SMB connection failed
[11:41] <opexoc> Why I have get this?
[11:41] <Moosky> gorganalmighty: in case of a crash and loss of nodes checkfs helps you restore the lost data due to that crash.
[11:41] <gorganalmighty> Arafangion: For example, I never used to run scandisk every time I started windows
[11:41] <usr13> Arafangion, Yea, I don't know for sure, but the wife plays Java games a lot and leaves it on for days at a time and it seems to take a toll, but probably just hogging up memory
[11:42] <scag> I've installed apache. Which file do I need to edit, to change the location of the webpages?
[11:42] <Arafangion> gorganalmighty: scandisk is an entirely different beast.
[11:42] <Moosky> gorganalmighty: but why would you want to remove it anyhow? it only runs like after a crash or once every 32 start ups or so...
[11:42] <usr13> scag, httpd.conf
[11:42] <Arafangion> Moosky: That once-every-30 starts is a PITA, imho.
[11:42] <opexoc> maybe I should put something different than myserver in that line?
[11:43] <gorganalmighty> If its more important than scandisk then Ill leave it in there, thanks guys
[11:43] <Moosky> Arafangion: pita? the bread? hehe what do you mean?
[11:43] <Arafangion> Moosky: Pain-In-The-A***
[11:43] <gorganalmighty> Moosky: It still takes about 30 sec every boot before it decides not to do anything
[11:43] <Moosky> haha that's a new one to me :)
[11:44] <surface> for msn connection with gaim, is it possible to appear offline and still talk?
[11:44] <Arafangion> surface: Not if the other person is /also/ offline, and I'm not sure.
[11:45] <gorganalmighty> Moosky: btw, I have big FAT32 drives, checkfs seems to spend its time on those
[11:45] <Arafangion> surface: gaim is a lowest-common-denominator, and msn is a bit unusual in that regard.
[11:45] <Arafangion> surface: You might be happier with amsn.
[11:45] <surface> Arafangion, i stay invisible but can't talk with gaim
[11:45] <myconid> isnt using MSN from Linux a bit ... evil?
[11:46] <gorganalmighty> myconid: lol
[11:46] <Arafangion> myconid: A neccessary evil, if you happen to like your existing friends.
[11:46] <osfameron> Arafangion: heh
[11:46] <myconid> Friends dont let friends use MSN.
[11:46] <hhp2k> Hey everyone! I have the protocol on ubuntu to allow winSCP on my Windows machine to connect to my Ubuntu machine. I'd like to know if, with this setup, I can execute a terminal command from ubuntu that sends a file over my network to my Windows machine - is that possible, do I need any extra software? It would be incredibly convenient.
[11:47] <Moosky> gorganalmighty: how do you come to that conclusion? heh e
[11:47] <scag> How do I restart apache?
[11:47] <gorganalmighty> myconid: At the risk of starting a flame war, MSN is about the only good thing thats come out of M$
[11:47] <myconid> hhp2k: What kind of crazy talk is that?
[11:47] <myconid> scag, /etc/init.d/apache restart
[11:47] <myconid> (possibly apache2)
[11:47] <blaa_> hey guys, does anyone know how/know where i can read how to install gnome 2.20 in ubuntu? is it even possible at all?
[11:47] <Arafangion> gorganalmighty: I disagree.
[11:48] <myconid> gorganalmighty, arguably the linda and bill gates foundation has done *some* good as well.
[11:48] <myconid> blaa_: install 7.10?
[11:48] <scag> myconid: Thanks :)
[11:48] <Arafangion> gorganalmighty: imho, MS Office is the only good thing that has come out of MS, it's just too damn expensive.
[11:48] <osfameron> gorganalmighty: that's silly.  Their office productivity tools are nice if you like that sort of thing, and there is a *lot* of interesting research coming out of C#, Linq, powershell etc.
[11:48] <hhp2k> myconid: It can't be done?
[11:48] <Arafangion> myconid: And that has nothing to do with MS, btw. ;)
[11:48] <Moosky> blaa_: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:48] <Arafangion> osfameron: Such as?
[11:48] <myconid> Arafangion, I disagree.
[11:48] <hhp2k> Arafangion: MS Office 2007 is pretty.
[11:48] <myconid> hhp2k, i just found your question bizzarely phrased.
[11:49] <blaa_> myconid: how do i upgrade to gutsy?
[11:49] <gorganalmighty> h dear look what I started....
[11:49] <osfameron> Arafangion: well, I named Linq and powershell.
[11:49] <myconid> My turds are pretty.. doesnt make them useful except to remove crap.
[11:49] <myconid> blaa_, update-manager -d
[11:49] <hhp2k> myconid: Might have been awkwardly phrased :P
[11:49] <Moosky> osfameron: amen to Linq .. i rly like it tbh
[11:49] <hhp2k> myconid: But you get it, right?
[11:49] <mrak> mno tak stahnout
[11:49] <gorganalmighty> myconid: your turds ARE crap, arent they?
[11:49] <osfameron> LINQ is like functional programming for the masses.  I want it for Perl...
[11:49] <myconid> gorganalmighty, sometimes they have pieces of corn.
[11:49] <myconid> hhp2k, im not exactly sure what you are getting at.
[11:50] <gorganalmighty> eww
[11:50] <myconid> hhp2k, if you have winscp (which uses ssh) .. why not just use somehting like putty to run commands?
[11:50] <myconid> or cron them.
[11:50] <blaa_> oh you guys are clever :) thanks
[11:50] <Moosky> Hmm this  is turning into yet another flame thing against ms .. ye we know that everyone got opinions about some stuff, let's get back to QnA's
[11:50] <osfameron> amen
[11:50] <hhp2k> myconid: I don't know anything about any of this, that's why I'm asking :P What's putty?
[11:50] <myconid> hhp2k, what are you trying to do?
[11:50] <gorganalmighty> oh well I got real world work to do... :(
[11:51] <osfameron> hhp2k: putty is an ssh client for windows.  Probably the least hateful one there is :-)
[11:51] <Moosky> hhp2k: putty is a nice ssh program and MUCH more (www.putty.nl)
[11:51] <hhp2k> myconid: I can send and receive files on my Windows machine, but I can't send or receive files from my ubuntu machine, because I don't think I have (or know of for that matter) any software like winSCP on my ubuntu machine that will load up a file manager and let me transfer files.
[11:52] <myconid> hhp2k, transfer files to what?
[11:52] <hhp2k> between each machine.
[11:52] <myconid> hhp2k, samba?
[11:52] <osfameron> hhp2k: your ubuntu console has "scp"
[11:52] <thoreauputic> hhp2k: connect to server
[11:52] <myconid> osfameron, but windows doesnt.
[11:52] <Moosky> hhp2k: how about filezilla and connect using SSH
[11:52] <thoreauputic> hhp2k: you can use ftp or sftp/ssh
[11:52] <myconid> people stop unless you just read what he said.
[11:53] <scag> In apache, does the .htaccess file go to the same location where the webpages are saved?
[11:53] <rake> yep
[11:53] <myconid> hhp2k, you could install samba on the ubuntu machine (which lets windows connect to it via normal windowsy ways.. \\servername)..
[11:53] <osfameron> myconid: "I can't send or receive files from my ubuntu machine" - that's why I mentioned scp
[11:53] <osfameron> but yeah, samba is probabl the thing
[11:53] <myconid> hhp2k, or install XAMPP on the Windows machine to get ftp ON the windows machine.. and ftp files to the Windowsmachine.
[11:53] <scag> Do I need to install anything else in addition to apache for .htaccess to work? I'm trying to redirect the page but it won't work
[11:53] <thoreauputic> prople, Ubuntu does sftp with nautilus out of the box...
[11:53] <thoreauputic> *people
[11:54] <hhp2k> thoreauputic: I've tried that before and it's never worked.. I need to work on that some more, because it is the most native way to do this, I agree.
[11:54] <myconid> scag: do you have htaccess overwrite allow enabled?
[11:54] <thoreauputic> hhp2k: it works fine here
[11:54] <scag> myconid: I'm using the default configuration. So I don't know.
[11:54] <hhp2k> thoreauputic: I know, it's definitely something I'm doing wrong, I just need to figure out what that is :P
[11:54] <myconid> whats your .htaccess look like?
[11:54] <frojnd> hello there
[11:54] <frojnd> I'm in serious problem...
[11:55] <myconid> hhp2k, just install it, add a user (smbpasswd) and you shjould be good to go :)
[11:55] <thoreauputic> hhp2k: try typing ssh://you@server  in nautilus ( ctrl+L to get a location field)
[11:55] <myconid> frojnd, arent we all?
[11:55] <thoreauputic> hhp2k: or dftp:// ftp://
[11:55] <myconid> thoreauputic, stop.  his windows machine doesnt have a 'ssh' server.
[11:55] <frojnd> i made: sudo dpkg -P network-manager network-manger-gnome
[11:55] <frojnd> And now i can't connect to the internet..
[11:55] <thoreauputic> myconid: *cough* works for ftp too
[11:55] <frojnd> how can I get those 2 packages on my conputer ?
[11:55] <hhp2k> myconid: That might be the problem :P I'm not sure if I got that with winSCP.
[11:55] <myconid> thoreauputic, *cough* he doesnt have ftp
[11:56] <thoreauputic> myconid: *cough* he can get it for windows
[11:56] <myconid> hhp2k, got what with winSCP
[11:56] <myconid> thoreauputic, *cough* lets not recommend insecure protocols.
[11:56] <hhp2k> ssh, ftp, etc
[11:56] <rake> how about just using a usb stick for now, if he's an urgent need.
[11:56] <thoreauputic> myconid: agreed :)
[11:56] <myconid> sneakernet ftw.
[11:56] <rake> and then he get down to figuring out scp, etc later.
[11:56] <npnuf1> chmod is not changing the permissions for symbolic links.  How can I change the permissions for symbolic links?
[11:57] <opexoc> Do you know what it means when I get this during mounting network shares process: 8931: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[11:57] <opexoc> SMB connection failed
[11:57] <myconid> hhp2k, apt-get install samba; adduser testsmb; smbpasswd -A testsmb; smbpasswd -E testsmb; /etc/init.d/samba start; goto windows pc, start->run->\\linuxmachineipaddress
[11:57] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: ypu don't change the permissions on the link - you change them on the file
[11:57] <hhp2k> See this is why I like coming here early in the morning.. I get a lot of service :P
[11:57] <myconid> opexoc, that would be an access denied message.
[11:57] <frojnd> Can someone tell me where can I get network-manager and network-manager-gnome for my ubuntu?
[11:57] <rake> apt-get
[11:57] <myconid> frojnd, apt-get ?
[11:57] <rake> ftw
[11:58] <frojnd> myconid, I can't... these 2 packets were my source for the net..
[11:58] <hhp2k> myconid: I'll try that now.
[11:58] <opexoc> myconid: I know, but why? I am using "sudo" command to mount resources.
[11:58] <rake> at the command line, use sudo apt-get install network-manager
[11:58] <myconid> frojnd, ifconfig interface eth0 up?
[11:58] <rake> or, use synaptic, if you've a gui
[11:58] <myconid> opexoc, you dont have perms on the remote machine.
[11:58] <npnuf1> thoreauputic; I just wanted to make the link read only.  I think chattr is the only alternative.
[11:58] <frojnd> myconid: I've tryed but nothing..
[11:59] <myconid> frojnd, i promise you; you DONT need the network manager to get a network connection.
[11:59] <myconid> frojnd, are you using wireless or wired?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: .... erm ... make waht it points at read only
[11:59] <frojnd> myconid wireless...
[11:59] <myconid> frojnd, so use iwconfig
[11:59] <myconid> frojnd, and configure your connection
[11:59] <attunix> Which is a better video editor? Kino or Pitivi?
[12:00] <temper> how to clear terminal history ?
[12:00] <frojnd> myconid: I really ron't know how to do this, since I am stuck here with wireless...
[12:00] <thoreauputic> attunix: 43
[12:00] <myconid> attunix, Kino is MUCH better.
[12:00] <frojnd> myconid I can't find any instructions on computer..
[12:00] <myconid> frojnd, ALT+F2, xterm
[12:00] <hhp2k> myconid: the install worked, but all commands after it failed with permission denied. :/
[12:00] <myconid> then t ype iwconfig
[12:00] <myconid> hhp2k, prefix them with sudo
[12:00] <npnuf1> thoreauputic; then can you tell me how should I do that?
[12:01] <hhp2k> myconid: Alright
[12:01] <attunix> myconid: explain, please? I need to make a video project and I want to find a quick-to-learn video editor with more than just 3 features or something like that.
[12:01] <attunix> thoreauputic: 43? :S
[12:01] <myconid> attunix, i have no idea.. i was just making you happy by giving you an answer.. i didnt claim it was the RIGHT answer, but an answer.
[12:01] <frojnd> myconid: ok, I'll try,
[12:01] <myconid> attunix, i use Final Cut Pro and Premier
[12:01] <attunix> myconid: ok :)
[12:01] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: see where the link points - ls -l /path/to/link , then do a chmod 444 if you really want read only, on that file
[12:01] <temper>  anyone know that ,how to clear terminal history ?
[12:01] <attunix> myconid: yeah.... um.... free as in beer please :)
[12:02] <myconid> temper, rm ~/.bash_history
[12:02] <opexoc> myconid: ok but this resources what I want to get are on my ubuntu machine. It is very weird for me that I can explore them thanks to WIN XP on other side of network, but I can't do this from my system using default file manager.
[12:02] <npnuf1> theoreauputic; thanks.
[12:02] <hhp2k> myconid: Wait, if I just put the rest of those commands in the terminal, they won't just be recognized by samba, will they?
[12:02] <nrdb> temper: the 'reset' command
[12:02] <thoreauputic> attunix: asking "which is better, X or Y is kind of meaningless
[12:02] <attunix> thoreauputic: well, I want the public's opinion to see which is more widely used and why
[12:02] <myconid> hhp2k, i gave you almost everything you need.. google ubuntu samba setup for more.. its pretty easy.. especially when i gave you the steps.
[12:03] <thoreauputic> attunix: ah, that's a different question altogether :)
[12:03] <opexoc> myconid: when I want to explore this file then I get: the folder contents could not be displayed.
[12:03] <attunix> :)
[12:03] <myconid> opexoc, This is ubuntu support.. your error is a Windows side error.
[12:04] <myconid> opexoc, but I would bet a beer or two its a windowspermission issue
[12:04] <xjkx> !codecs
[12:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:05] <opexoc> myconid: You maybe don't understand. This has nothing with Windows. I want to explore my own directories on my ubuntu machine throught ubuntu graphic file manager.
[12:05] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: be sure you actually want 444 on the file - if it is a directory you need at least access (x)
[12:05] <myconid> opexoc, and whats the problem?
[12:05] <myconid> opexoc, what folder are you trying to view
[12:05] <myconid> /home/anotheruser ?
[12:06] <npnuf1> thoreauputic;  the original file is having 444.  may be my question is ridiculous!
[12:06] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: if it is 444 it is definitely read only :)
[12:07] <myconid> today seems like a good day for drinking.
[12:07] <opexoc> myconid: No I want to view my home folder throught this graphic windows manager - smb://opexoc/homes. And I get what I said.
[12:07] <npnuf1> theoreauputic; I just wanted the link to be readonly.  may be this is impossible in Linux.
[12:07] <thoreauputic> myconid: every day is a good day for drinking :)
[12:08] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: it's meaningless...
[12:08] <opexoc> myconid: but when I want to explore it thanks to windows xp then I have to put password and I can do explore it.
[12:08] <myconid> opexoc, so, I offer my previous assertion once again -- you have a samba permissions issue.
[12:08] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: you set permissions on real files, not symlinks
[12:08] <myconid> why are you trying to browse the local machine over smb?
[12:09] <npnuf1> ok, ok, my thoughts are meaningless.
[12:09] <opexoc> myconid: because I am testing samba. What I can do and what I can't.
[12:09] <Bo^Dick> what command displays all partitions detected by ubuntu?
[12:09] <myconid> opexoc, its either software,hardware, or user error.
[12:09] <thoreauputic> npnuf1: maybe you just need to rephrase what you are trying to do :)
[12:09] <myconid> opexoc, it sounds like youve tested software and hardware
[12:10] <thoreauputic> Bo^Dick: df
[12:10] <Bo^Dick> thanks
[12:10] <opexoc> myconid: I just wonder why I can't explore my own resources.
[12:11] <myconid> opexoc, so, I offer my previous assertion once again -- you have a samba permissions issue. <<<<
[12:12] <myconidx> Silly 7.10 upgrade.
[12:12] <opexoc> myconid: yes. probably. But do you know what should I do to repair that ( any suggestions? )?
[12:13] <myconidx> opexoc, i am not sure what the problem is... you havent made it very clear.. if you can connect from xp->linux just fine, then maybe samba isnt bound on 127.0.0.1, or maybe your not passing a username/password correctly, etc, etc.
[12:13] <myconidx> brb 7.10 time
[12:13] <Blindraven> Question! running Ubuntu, samba decides it just wont play sometimes, no particular reasons that i can tell. I'll throw it a sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop/start and it just wont play. some other times all my shares are there.. (when i view network from the Places panel) any ideas guys?
[12:15] <frojnd> u vere right...
[12:15] <frojnd> It works without window manager..
[12:16] <frojnd> anyway: I'm trying to enable rt61 module for my wireless card, cause computer freezes on every 2 hours or 3... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[12:16] <tsurc>  on a single machine with iptables, a desktop and dansguardian/squid is there any way I can force traffic (any port) owned by the "guest" group to be redirected to port 8080
[12:16] <frojnd> I just don't understand, here in this manual says that feisty has ra1 but I don't have ra1
[12:16] <frojnd> only ra0
[12:16] <myconid> tsurc, no
[12:16] <zoldar> is it possible to add axis description "by hand" in OO Calc?
[12:18] <Bo^Dick> uhm, i know i've got another large ntfs partition besides the /windows one
[12:18] <Bo^Dick> why isn't it displayed?
[12:18] <jhatlelid> Hi .. How come I don't find "lcdproc" in "apt-cache search" when it is here? http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/lcdproc
[12:19] <heguru> tsurc: actually i believe you can
[12:19] <_Johny> I just eager to know how come, installing a program throught svn make it appear in the upgrade list later? Can anyone answer?
[12:20] <opexoc> myconidx: what does it mean bound on 127.0.0.1? Where can I set this option?
[12:20] <scag> I made a page redirection under <virtualhost>, in apache's httpd.conf but the page is not getting redirected (It worked earlier). Can someone help me fix this?
[12:20] <heguru> tsurc: there is a match module --match owner --gid <grouname> that will match all traffic generated by the specified group
[12:20] <littlefinger> My Logitech Quickcam is not supported by default, so I compiled the qc-usb-messenger module myself. However, the /dev/video0 device node is not created by udev. http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html says that this should happen automatically, but it doesn't. How come?
[12:20] <Moosky> scag did you restart apache?
[12:20] <scag> Moosky: Yes
[12:20] <hhp2k> How do you find out your ip on Ubuntu?
[12:20] <heguru> tsurc: that can then be redirected to port 8080
[12:21] <Moosky> hhp2k: ifconfig
[12:21] <hhp2k> That's it, thanks
[12:21] <philip_> Hello to all of the nice people in the ubuntu channel :)
[12:21] <zoldar> nevermind, found it...
[12:21] <tsurc> heguru: its getting the syntax right though. Its got to that time of day that I just cant see the wood for the trees
[12:22] <frojnd> I have a Q. about passphrase. Is passphrase the same as Access Point ? something like this: 00:40:DE:AC:94:96  ??
[12:22] <scag> Moosky: http://www.cgi-interactive-uk.com/apache_redirect_directive.html <--- I used thsi example, and it worked. After I put the url to my own pages, it no longer redirects. I put it back to the pages as it was in the tutorial and now that won't work either.
[12:23] <philip_> Little problem:  I uninstalled vmware from my system, and now I can't install it again because the console says I already have it (I don't)
[12:23] <Bo^Dick> one of my ntfs partitions isn't visible with the df command, why?
[12:23] <heguru> tsurc: the rule will be something like this: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --match owner --gid-owner guest -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[12:24] <digitalspaghetti> Hey, can anyone help - My gf has given me her iPod nano, problem is it's name is ALEX'S IPOD, and I can't seem to get rockbox to recognise it, and when I try umount it only recognises the ALEX' part.  Is there any way in Ubuntu to rename it or remount it to /media/ipod  ?
[12:25] <kbrooks> heguru, sorry to annoy, but why does he want to do that?
[12:25] <kbrooks> digitalspaghetti, umm...
[12:25] <khamael> when I try to run sudo apt-get update I get this: http://pastebin.com/d13ed1291 what can I do?
[12:25] <kbrooks> digitalspaghetti, use quotes.
[12:25] <wilson> digitalspaghetti,  you need to work out which dev it is, eg /dev/sdd
[12:25] <heguru> kbrooks: he wants to send all the traffic generated by users in guest group to be sent to his SQUID proxy
[12:26] <heguru> Bo^Dick: is the partition mounted?
[12:26] <kbrooks> heguru, ah ok, that just goes to say how useful iptables can be.
[12:26] <heguru> kbrooks: oh yes you can do miracles with iptables :D
[12:27] <digitalspaghetti> wilson, whats the easier way to do that?
[12:27] <kbrooks> heguru, "miracles" lol
[12:27] <scag> http://www.cgi-interactive-uk.com/apache_redirect_directive.html <--- I used thsi example, and it worked. After I put the url to my own pages, it no longer redirects. I put it back to the pages as it was in the tutorial and now that won't work either.
[12:27] <scag> I need to redirect my website
[12:28] <zimmy__> im installing a new server? and i had to add noapi to usb to get it to work? does this mean i should just install the 64bit install?
[12:28] <tsurc> heguru: na I'm getting invalid argument, any idea how I can debug it?
[12:28] <heguru> scag: why not pastebin the lines you added to redirect your website?
[12:29] <heguru> tsurc: it might be that --gid-owner only takes numeric group ids, run getent group | grep guest and use the numeric id
[12:29] <senlina_05> yoo...yoo.yooo
[12:29] <wilson> im not 100% sure but the first usb mass storage device you plug in should be /dev/sdd
[12:29] <kbrooks> scag, offtopic here, use #apache
[12:29] <kbrooks> wilson, no...
[12:30] <heguru> wilson: no
[12:30] <wilson> seems to on my computer here
[12:30] <kbrooks> wilson, really, you mean sda. but it depends.
[12:30] <wilson> ive just tried plugging my muvo into different ports
[12:30] <heguru> wilson: it depends on the computer
[12:30] <rhalff> hi, how do I configure the screen for those opengl games ? I use two monitors and the game appears small and in the middle.
[12:30] <senlina_05> mn niy
[12:30] <tsurc> heguru: one step ahead of you I'd done that already. same result both times
[12:30] <philip_> I have a problem with my openGL X server, any can help?
[12:30] <kbrooks> wilson, typing "mount", without quotes, on the command line, can tell you the /dev name
[12:30] <senlina_05> yellow
[12:30] <heguru> tsurc: ok let me try it myself first
[12:31] <zimmy__> i meant i have to add noapic to get it to install on my new server i just built
[12:31] <wilson> ahh, there you go that's the easy way then
[12:31] <kbrooks> philip_, i doubt it, but if we don't help at all, join #ubuntu-effects
[12:31] <wilson> so after you find out what device it is you can type in umount /dev/whatever
[12:31] <scag> !paste
[12:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:31] <heguru> tsurc: its --redirect-ports 8080
[12:31] <heguru> tsurc: --to-ports 8080
[12:31] <senlina_05> yyyyy
[12:32] <wilson> then mount /dev/whatever /directory_you_want
[12:32] <khamael> does anybody else have problems running "sudo apt-get update"? I get a strange error: http://pastebin.com/d13ed1291
[12:32] <Steezus> hello, quick question, seems like an easy answer but cant find in google. how do you apply emerald themes???
[12:32] <khamael> Steezus: you should ask in #ubuntu-effects
[12:33] <Steezus> thanks
[12:33] <zimmy__> i just took my fbsd disro off and im installing ubuntu? i think its for the better? right is it more secure than fbsd was?
[12:33] <tsurc> heguru: "iptables v1.3.6: Unknown arg `--redirect-ports'"
[12:33] <scag> heguru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40144/plain/
[12:33] <heguru> tsurc: one min
[12:34] <youness> i have problem in installing ubuntu
[12:34] <vikas> #freetds
[12:34] <vikas> join #freetds
[12:35] <xubuntuM> i have problem in configuration materiel
[12:35] <Steezus> hello, quick question, should be easy answer but cannot find in google. how do you apply emerald themes?
[12:35] <heguru> tsurc:  iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --match owner --gid-owner 1000 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080
[12:35] <khamael> my apt-get seems to be broken. every time I try to run an apt-get command, I get E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[12:35] <heguru> replace 1000 with your gid
[12:35] <heguru> tsurc: just verified, it works too
[12:35] <rake|lurk> khamael: have you tried sudo apt-get check
[12:36] <khamael> rake|lurk: same error
[12:36] <kbrooks> zimmy__, security depends on us humans.
[12:36] <Steezus> crap this is not the effects channel is it
[12:36] <kbrooks> zimmy__, not on a particular setup.
[12:36] <kbrooks> Steezus, /join #ubuntu-effects
[12:36] <kbrooks> zimmy__, humans write software.
[12:36] <heguru> tsurc: in your case 8080 might be 3128
[12:36] <Steezus> sorry, just using irc for first time. will try going there!
[12:37] <kbrooks> zimmy__, therefore we are the weak links in security.
[12:37] <tsurc> heguru: yup worked here too, now I'm hoping that those pesky kids won't be able to circumnavigate it. edubuntu gutsy + squid + dansguardian + iptable = one kick ass terminal server
[12:37] <kbrooks> zimmy__, so the answer to that question is subjective
[12:37] <khamael> rake|lurk: is there anything else I can try?
[12:37] <rake|lurk> khamael: try this....
[12:37] <rake|lurk> http://rwxii.bitblaster.com/k/11-1-1-031211102449/permlink.hptb
[12:38] <kbrooks> tsurc, they might be able to circumvent it with enough knowledge and convincing you to make them an admin
[12:38] <heguru> tsurc: lols, well i doubt that, kids can bypass any type of protection!, instead of trying to block, I would rather just LOG every connection
[12:38] <_Johny> I'm just eager to know how come, installing a program throught svn make it appear in the upgrade list later? Can anyone answer?
[12:38] <tsurc> heguru: thanks for your help. me thinks I'll be writting it up somewhere on the edubuntu wiki. and add logging too
[12:38] <kbrooks> tsurc, can i pm you :p
[12:39] <scag> heguru: Hello?
[12:39] <rake|lurk> khamael:  at first blush is looks like your sources.list has been added to a bit  :)
[12:39] <tsurc> kbrooks, yeh sure
[12:39] <heguru> scag: oh i forgot you, wait let me check
[12:39] <scag> okay.
[12:39] <rldowling03> Hi all. Is there anyone who can help me setting up my bluetooth with ubuntu
[12:40] <khamael> rake|lurk: tried the apt.conf thing.. .still same error
[12:40] <rake|lurk> khamael: in short, that site suggests to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and add APT::Cache-Limit "16777216";
[12:40] <rake|lurk> guh
[12:40] <heguru> scag: what error are you getting?
[12:41] <scag> heguru: None, it doesn't redirect
[12:41] <rake|lurk> khamael: read through your source list file, and comment out the stuff that doesn't seem to actually be from ubuntu
[12:41] <heguru> scag: are you on ubuntu?
[12:41] <scag> heguru: Yes
[12:42] <heguru> scag: which file did you add this to? apache2/sites-available/default ?
[12:42] <scag> heguru: /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[12:42] <digitalspaghetti> Is there a way to change the mount point of a device?
[12:43] <heguru> scag: oh apache 1.3
[12:43] <scag> heguru: It was already there, and commented out. I pasted it exactly as it is from the tutorial, and it worked. I put my own pages, and it stopped working. Then I put it back to how it was in the tutorial and that won't work again.,
[12:43] <xubuntuM> problem cnfiguration materiel ubuntu rtm290
[12:44] <scag> heguru: Hm, I don't know the version. I just need to redirect the site cause the webpages are on another PC.
[12:44] <rake> scag: that seems to be an html issue... not an apache issue
[12:44] <scag> Hm
[12:44] <jeff1212> where can i get some killer wallpapers?
[12:45] <rldowling03> can anyone help me?? When i do lsusb  device it is listed but i cannot use the device
[12:45] <heguru> scag: actually i believe its because there might not be /index.html
[12:45] <Bo^Dick> why does ubuntu restart w/o notification when i change bitdepth and samplerate?
[12:45] <scag> heguru: There is
[12:46] <scag> heguru: It opens the index.html, doesn't redirect
[12:46] <jeff1212> rldowling03: what is the device? u might have to make a script for it
[12:46] <Twiinz> Hi there
[12:47] <heguru> scag: i'm sure you restarted apache after this?
[12:47] <rldowling03> jeff1212: It is a Bluetooth USB device
[12:47] <scag> heguru: Yes, several times
[12:47] <Twiinz> i'm setting up a linux server that will server an heterogeneous network of linux windows and mac clients, i wonder what that's best way to provide shared hard disk to this network
[12:47] <heguru> scag: sorry no clue, can't also test it here as i have apache2
[12:48] <_Argasm> hi guys, I'm having problems setting up my wireless device in Ubuntu...  worked fine in 7.04 but 7.10 is giving me hassle... any help ???
[12:48] <Morticed> !samba | Twiinz
[12:48] <ubotu> Twiinz: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:48] <Morticed> Twiinz: I'd definitely go the samba route for that
[12:48] <rake|lurk> _Argasm: ummm beta?  try #ubuntu+1
[12:48] <scag> heguru: Okay, np :)
[12:48] <jeff1212> _Argasm: join #ubuntu+1 for 7.10
[12:49] <Twiinz> samba support is somewhat dodgy in OSX though
[12:49] <_Argasm> been there, no-one answers my questions...  I just need someone to talk me through setting it up normally please...
[12:49] <rake|lurk> ahh, well, then I can't help.  never done it.
[12:49] <jeff1212> rldowling03: sorry never owned a bluetooth
[12:49] <Twiinz> and the number of windows machine is very limited compared to the number of linux and OS X boxes, isn't there another option to smb ?
[12:50] <Moosky> _Argasm: may be you should explain what's the problem. Then we'd have something to talk about .
[12:50] <rake|lurk> ftp!
[12:50] <rldowling03> ok, is there anyone here who can help me figure out why i can see my bluetooth in ubuntu, but not use it
[12:50] <_Argasm> k, usually I goto Prefs-Network and setup my wireless card and static ip addy... then I apt-get dnsmasq and ipmasq and share internet conneciton with laptop over wireless and it works fine
[12:50] <rake|lurk> Twiinz: any os comes with FTP support, usually via a GUI even (even if nothing else than a browser - uploading via browser isn't as intuitive though)
[12:50] <_Argasm> but... I setup the wireless and the damn thing wont even come on now (blink)
[12:51] <Twiinz> rake|lurk: unfortunatly OS X Finder doesnt upload files to FTP
[12:51] <_Argasm> it's like ubuntu see's the wireless card but doesnt like using it...
[12:52] <rake|lurk> Twiinz: so, pick the pain.  someone is going to have to go through some extra steps.  seems like OS X folks are hurting one way or another - I'd go with reliability over flakiness
[12:52] <xubuntuM> voici mon problem http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1000858
[12:52] <Seeker`> Where is the shortcut key for scrolling terminal output set?
[12:52] <rake|lurk> and there's FTP clients available - and tell the users, this is the new file server browser.... lol
[12:53] <xubuntuM> j ai un problem dans l installation d ubuntu (chargement du modul trm 290)
[12:53] <Twiinz> ah well
[12:53] <rake|lurk> sorry
[12:53] <rake|lurk> we got linux, windows, os x at work too
[12:53] <xubuntuM> this is my problem http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1000858
[12:53] <rake|lurk> heck, vista has to browse by IP
[12:53] <rake|lurk> it's the worst
[12:53] <Twiinz> ouch
[12:54] <rake|lurk> aye
[12:54] <Twiinz> maybe there's a way for setting up nfs for windows
[12:54] <Twiinz> that'd be the absolute best
[12:54] <rake|lurk> win svr?
[12:54] <rake|lurk> pretty sure...
[12:54] <Twiinz> win client
[12:55] <xubuntuM> i have problem in installing ubuntu when i become in the configuration materiel it stoped in 6%
[12:55] <max_bizzle> Twiinz, - use macfusion to do ftp and ssh from the finder
[12:55] <xubuntuM> someone for help
[12:55] <rake|lurk> Twiinz: Yup!  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324055  google to teh rescue
[12:55] <rldowling03> is there anyone here who can help me figure out why i can see my bluetooth in ubuntu, but not use it
[12:55] <rake|lurk> (omfg, did I just link to the MS KB on #ubuntu?)
[12:55] <rake|lurk> ....
[12:55] <rake|lurk> I'm goin to bed now.
[12:55] <max_bizzle> haha
[12:56] <Twiinz> thanks ;)
[12:57] <xubuntuM> plz help me this is my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=445975
[12:58] <xjkx> what does ubuntu means?
[12:58] <sbc> I'm trying to connecto to a WPA peap tkip mschapv2 wireless network. I'm told by the 'staff' that those are the correct settings. Can anyone make any sence of my syslog http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40142/ or point me in the right direction for a fix? I'm using the nm-applet.
[12:59] <Matic`Makovec> Hello there. So I was upgrading my Ubuntu from 6.10 to 7.04 today morning and I left it when it was installing. The system obviusly tried to reboot or something as it was shut down when I came home and now I can't boot into Ubuntu. Any ideas what might went wrong or how to fix/check it?
[12:59] <heguru> ubuntu is an African word meaning Humanity to Others
[01:00] <xubuntuM> I am trying to install Ubuntu Studio 7.04, and having a problem. I downloaded it, burned it to a DVD, and stuck it in the computer. The installer came up just fine. I selected the default "Install Ubuntu Studio" menu option, and it tells me it's starting the Linux kernel. Then the screen goes blank for about three minutes, and then says "Trying to enable the frame buffer." Another three...
[01:00] <xubuntuM> ...minutes later, the installer starts. The keyboard detection and all that works fine, but when I get to detecting the hardware it has problems. The "Detecting Hardware" progress bar sits at 0% for a few minutes, then jumps to 6% and says "Loading module 'trm290' for 'IDE Chipset Support'..." Nothing after that happens. I left it like that for about 4 hours yesterday, and it just sits...
[01:00] <xubuntuM> Hello,
[01:00] <xubuntuM> ...there. The same thing happens if I select "Text Mode Install for Manufacturers," or "Check CD For Defects" from the installation menu.
[01:00] <xubuntuM> Could it be that I'm just not waiting long enough? If so, why is everything going so slow? Any ideas?
[01:00] <xubuntuM> Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
[01:00] <xubuntuM> __________________
[01:01] <rldowling03> is there anyone here who can help me figure out why i can see my bluetooth in ubuntu, but not use it
[01:01] <xubuntuM> plzzzzzzzzz help me
[01:01] <heguru> rldowling03: what happens when you try to use it?
[01:02] <opexoc> What is with samba: when I try to explore my own home folder throught network system directories then the files manages throw: The folder contents could not be displayed.  I add that when I connect to samba thanks to win xp to this folder then after put user and password I can explore it.
[01:03] <max_bizzle> sbc - have installed a cert?
[01:03] <sbc> max_bizzle: Properly not - what is a cert?
[01:03] <max_bizzle> sbc - certificate
[01:04] <sbc> max_bizzle: I haven't. I need to get one from the it staff at the place? Or is it one I can 'make' myself?
[01:04] <xubuntuM> I am trying to install Ubuntu Studio 7.04, and having a problem. I downloaded it, burned it to a DVD, and stuck it in the computer. The installer came up just fine. I selected the default "Install Ubuntu Studio" menu option, and it tells me it's starting the Linux kernel. Then the screen goes blank for about three minutes, and then says "Trying to enable the frame buffer." Another three...
[01:04] <xubuntuM> ...minutes later, the installer starts. The keyboard detection and all that works fine, but when I get to detecting the hardware it has problems. The "Detecting Hardware" progress bar sits at 0% for a few minutes, then jumps to 6% and says "Loading module 'trm290' for 'IDE Chipset Support'..." Nothing after that happens. I left it like that for about 4 hours yesterday, and it just sits...
[01:04] <xubuntuM> rake|lurk: Hello,
[01:04] <xubuntuM> ...there. The same thing happens if I select "Text Mode Install for Manufacturers," or "Check CD For Defects" from the installation menu.
[01:04] <xubuntuM> Could it be that I'm just not waiting long enough? If so, why is everything going so slow? Any ideas?
[01:04] <xubuntuM> Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
[01:04] <xubuntuM> __________________
[01:04] <max_bizzle> sbc - no, you need to get it from the it staff
[01:05] <heguru> !repeat | xubuntuM
[01:05] <ubotu> xubuntuM: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:05] <rldowling03> heguru: I contacted you privately about it
[01:06] <xubuntuM> ok
[01:06] <heguru> rldowling03: you don't have registered nick i believe, you cannot communicate on PM
[01:06] <heguru> rldowling03: why not talk here
[01:07] <cyrano> Hi. i get an error in Firefox.
[01:07] <rldowling03> heguru: whoops my bad, lol. well. my problem is ubuntu sees the usb bluetooth dongle when i do lsusb, but when i do hcitool dev it says nothing says there are no devices, and when i go hcitool scan, it says scanning for devices and then nothing.
[01:07] <cyrano> beaglePageLoad: beagleWriteContent/Metadata failed: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JSframe ::
[01:07] <cyrano> chrome://beagle/content/beagleOverlay.js :: beagleWriteContent __line 112" data: no] 
[01:07] <cyrano> I realy don't know how to solve this
[01:07] <bmt2> hello to all
[01:07] <cyrano> pls. help
[01:08] <bmt2> is there any app out there used to convert different audio format ? (i.e. mpeg to mp3)
[01:08] <bmt2> or .m4a to .mp3 ?
[01:08] <cyrano> i run Gutsy
[01:08] <han_> Helo everybody,My cube desk doesn't display!Any help?
[01:08] <bmt2> i tried using faad at the command line it was not much help
[01:08] <heguru> rldowling03: well showing in lsusb doesn't mean it will work. even unsupported hardware appears in lspci/lsusb
[01:08] <heguru> rldowling03: pastebin your lsusb
[01:09] <cyrano> it happened after i installed the gtk-murrine engine... and an gutsy update. don't know where the problem is
[01:09] <heguru> !gutsy | cyrano
[01:09] <ubotu> cyrano: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:09] <han_> Desktop effects could not be be enabled!Why?
[01:10] <SmoothOp> ati?
[01:10] <cyrano> beaglePageLoad: beagleWriteContent/Metadata failed: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JSframe ::
[01:10] <cyrano> chrome://beagle/content/beagleOverlay.js :: beagleWriteContent __line 112" data: no] 
[01:10] <heguru> cyrano: support for gutsy _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:11] <han_> My card is ATI!and my desktop-effects does not display
[01:11] <heguru> !compiz | han_
[01:11] <ubotu> han_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:11] <rldowling03> im not in ubuntu now, i cannot use internet on my ubuntu because I need the bluetooth dongle to work inorder to use internet on ubuntu. so i dont have the output
[01:12] <Abhisek> after installation i cant install extra packages from the cd. it sez MDSUM Mismatch. Any clue?
[01:12] <han_> I'm blue!thank you heguru
[01:12] <heguru> rldowling03: do you by any chance remember what your usb bluetooth was detected as?
[01:13] <bmt2> is there any HOWTO out there in converting different audio formats ?
[01:14] <bmt2> i.e. .mpeg to .mp3
[01:14] <bmt2> or
[01:14] <bmt2> .m4a to .mp3
[01:14] <tarzeau> bmt2: mencoder can do such things
[01:14] <tarzeau> bmt2: it usually comes with mplayer
[01:14] <bmt2> tarzeau: how do i used mencoder.....because i have mplayer installed already
[01:15] <tarzeau> bmt2: but do you also have mencoder?
[01:15] <bmt2> tarzeau: can i apt-get mencoder ?
[01:15] <xubuntuM> I am trying to install Ubuntu Studio 7.04, and having a problem. I downloaded it, burned it to a DVD, and stuck it in the computer. The installer came up just fine. I selected the default "Install Ubuntu Studio" menu option, and it tells me it's starting the Linux kernel. Then the screen goes blank for about three minutes, and then says "Trying to enable the frame buffer." Another three...
[01:15] <xubuntuM> ...minutes later, the installer starts. The keyboard detection and all that works fine, but when I get to detecting the hardware it has problems. The "Detecting Hardware" progress bar sits at 0% for a few minutes, then jumps to 6% and says "Loading module 'trm290' for 'IDE Chipset Support'..." Nothing after that happens. I left it like that for about 4 hours yesterday, and it just sits...
[01:15] <tarzeau> bmt2: not from debian official repositories. probably neither from ubuntu, not sure
[01:15] <xubuntuM> wath is the solution Hello,
[01:15] <xubuntuM> ...there. The same thing happens if I select "Text Mode Install for Manufacturers," or "Check CD For Defects" from the installation menu.
[01:15] <xubuntuM> Could it be that I'm just not waiting long enough? If so, why is everything going so slow? Any ideas?
[01:15] <xubuntuM> Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
[01:15] <xubuntuM> __________________
[01:15] <tarzeau> bmt2: i've got some repos with it. i386 or amd64?
[01:15] <bmt2> tarzeau: i386
[01:17] <heguru> bmt2: mencoder is available in official repositories
[01:17] <heguru> bmt2: just sudo apt-get install mencoder
[01:18] <bmt2> heguru: thanks i got it
[01:18] <bmt2> tarzeau: thanks to you alos sir/madam !
[01:18] <rldowling03> heguru: sorry for slow response, what do you mean??
[01:19] <heguru> rldowling03: the make/model of your bluetooth as printed by lsusb, if u remember
[01:19] <Steezus> gnomefreak is an artard
[01:21] <max_bizzle> excuse my ignorance, but whats an "artard"
[01:21] <heguru> max_bizzle: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=artard
[01:21] <wilson> heh, someone who doesn't play WOW ?
[01:22] <rldowling03> heguru, i not sure off top of my head, but I know that it is a Mobile Action MA-720
[01:22] <max_bizzle> ah
[01:24] <VSpike> what's the difference between /usr/bin/X and /usr/bin/Xorg ?
[01:24] <max_bizzle> well heres my peice of wisdom for the day/night "there are two types of geeks in this world, those with a pr0n folder, and those with a .pr0n folder"
[01:28] <tarzeau> VSpike: one is setuid root, the other not, and their size is different too
[01:28] <rldowling03> heguru: here is the topic i made for it if it is any help, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3507715
[01:28] <heguru> rldowling03: bad news, MA-720 is not supported under linux yet (according to bluez-devel mailing list 10th Sep 2007)
[01:29] <rldowling03> heguru: bugger, ok, well do you know if it is being worked on or if it is possible in the future??
[01:29] <cizarr> would someone help me please to connect into windows VPN?
[01:29] <alejandro> hi
[01:29] <VSpike> tarzeau: my display manager starts /usr/bin/X which doesn't seem to have a man page.. I'm wondering if the options will be the same for xorg, which does
[01:30] <rldowling03> heguru: can u give me a url to that page?
[01:30] <alejandro> someone remembers howto open programs in windows with the root
[01:30] <alejandro> ?
[01:30] <heguru> rldowling03: http://sourceforge.net/search/?ml_name=bluez-devel&type_of_search=mlists&group_id=26526&words=MA-720
[01:30] <alsch_> what is your problem ... windows vpn ?
[01:30] <Pici> !gksudo | alejandro
[01:30] <ubotu> alejandro: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  - See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[01:30] <rldowling03> heguru: ok, thanks for all your help
[01:31] <heguru> rldowling03: welcome
[01:31] <alejandro> thanks Pici
[01:31] <shashank_> whois aj_
[01:32] <max_bizzle> andy jones ?
[01:32] <gang> hello
[01:32] <gang> i have one problem with ubuntu
[01:33] <gang> i want to install driver for nvidia 8600gt
[01:33] <aj_> shashank: ya
[01:33] <heguru> gang: !nvidia
[01:33] <gang> when i restart gui the linux don't indentify video card
[01:33] <heguru> !nvidia | gang
[01:33] <ubotu> gang: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:35] <ZeroA4> gang, did you use the Restrited Drivers Mananger?
[01:36] <gang> when i start manager he says me you don't hvae restrited device
[01:36] <gang> have*
[01:36] <bazzieb> hi there, what are cool sites to go to to get started with linux?
[01:36] <tarzeau> bazzieb: livecd.gnustep.org
[01:38] <gang> please help me
[01:38] <gang> maybe ubuntu don' support 8600gt pci-e
[01:39] <heguru> gang: it does, just read the link above
[01:39] <tarzeau> gang: the nvidia card?
[01:40] <Lonniebiz> I just extracted 17000 files into the wrong folder (a folder that has files I want to keep in it). Anyone know how I can delete only the files I just extracted to that folder?
[01:40] <gang> ok
[01:40] <gang> i try again
[01:41] <Pici> Lonniebiz: you could use some sort of magic with the find command.  There are switches to look for files as of a certain date and you can specify an action to do on those files, like move/delete/whatever
[01:41] <Pici> Lonniebiz: I dont know the syntax off the top of my head though.
[01:41] <heguru> gang: for your card read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2791480
[01:41] <Lonniebiz> I've been working with find, but I haven't found the right command combination yet.
[01:42] <gang> thanks heguru
[01:44] <heguru> Lonniebiz: maybe: find -mmin n
[01:44] <Lonniebiz> I'll look into that now.
[01:44] <heguru> Lonniebiz: where n is number of minutes
[01:44] <Lonniebiz> oh
[01:45] <heguru> Lonniebiz: the archive that you extracted the files from, you can use that with xargs or for loop as well
[01:46] <Lonniebiz> interesting
[01:47] <heguru> Lonniebiz: something like: for f in `tar -ztf your.tar.gz`; do rm $f; done;
[01:48] <heguru> Lonniebiz: you might want to replace rm with mv to make sure you don't accidently delete something
[01:48] <shriphani> how can I get syntax highlighting for vim. I have installed vim.python, done touch .vimrc and put "syntax enable" in it.
[01:48] <Kohvihoor> how to purge something, that i have manually compiled?
[01:49] <heguru> shriphani: sudo apt-get install vim-full
[01:49] <heguru> Kohvihoor: find and remove all the files manually
[01:49] <Kohvihoor> okay
[01:49] <Kohvihoor> but what if i install newer version?
[01:49] <shriphani> heguru, that will enable syntax-highlighting but installing only vim.python won't ?
[01:49] <Kohvihoor> compile.
[01:50] <Kohvihoor> Will it overwrite those old files?
[01:50] <heguru> Kohvihoor: next time try using checkinstall in place of make install
[01:50] <Lonniebiz> There are so many files in the directory that nautilus won't even open the folder.
[01:50] <heguru> Kohvihoor: usually yes
[01:50] <Kohvihoor> Okay.
[01:50] <Kohvihoor> Thanx.
[01:50] <heguru> Lonniebiz: why not use cli
[01:50] <Lonniebiz> find -mmin 60 | xargs rm
[01:51] <CluBBaH> hey
[01:51] <Lonniebiz> never heard of cli
[01:51] <heguru> Lonniebiz: i don't know how would xargs be with 17000 files *-)
[01:51] <Lonniebiz> I'm looking into it
[01:51] <heguru> Lonniebiz: cli = command line interface
[01:51] <CluBBaH> can someone help me with geforce 6600 :)
[01:51] <Lonniebiz> oh
[01:51] <heguru> !nvidia | CluBBaH
[01:51] <ubotu> CluBBaH: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:52] <Matic`Makovec> Hello there. So I was upgrading my Ubuntu from 6.10 to 7.04 today morning and I left it when it was installing. The system obviusly tried to reboot or something as it was shut down when I came home and now I can't boot into Ubuntu. Any ideas what might went wrong or how to fix/check it?
[01:52] <Lonniebiz> I am now, but having trouble creating the right command.
[01:52] <titun> can someone please help me in this problem : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3501143#post3501143
[01:52] <CluBBaH>  i have drivers installed , but still can't get better resolution than 1024x768
[01:53] <heguru> Lonniebiz: your command above seems fine, you can also try the for loop one i pasted above
[01:54] <Lonniebiz> I'm a programmer, but I've never wrote programs in the command prompt.
[01:54] <Lonniebiz> I need a good book that explains that stuff.
[01:54] <heguru> Lonniebiz: well I would call it a script :)
[01:55] <heguru> Lonniebiz: get the Advanced BASH scripting guide, the holy grail of bash scripting :D
[01:55] <heguru> Lonniebiz: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html
[01:55] <Lonniebiz> I'm a javascript programmer, but no command line there.
[01:55] <titun> can someone please help me in this problem : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3501143#post3501143
[01:55] <Lonniebiz> ok, I'll buy it.
[01:55] <heguru> Lonniebiz: its free :) part of linux documentation project
[01:55] <Lonniebiz> awesome
[01:56] <heguru> !repeat | titun
[01:56] <ubotu> titun: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:56] <titun> heguru: sorry :) but i felt my message disappered within so many lines poping up so fast
[01:57] <titun> !patience
[01:57] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:57] <heguru> titun: so many lines! right now its as slow as #ubuntu get
[01:57] <Lonniebiz> Well, I'm going read up a bit, and I've copied the commands you've told me. I need to learn how to automate these type of things.
[01:57] <heguru> titun: i have seen your problem btw, and i guess you came here yesterday too
[01:57] <Lonniebiz> thanks heguru
[01:57] <heguru> Lonniebiz: welcome
[01:58] <titun> heguru: yes i have been asking for past 2 days, no luck :(
[01:58] <heguru> titun: the message seems to suggest that your device is not recognized
[01:58] <titun> heguru: btw now i have the drivers for the infrared adapter.. they r old RedHat9 drivers.......
[01:58] <titun> heguru: i don't know how to install these drivers
[01:59] <heguru> titun: are you sure your infrared adapter works under linux?
[01:59] <heguru> titun: is it usb or serial?
[01:59] <titun> heguru: its USB
[01:59] <heguru> titun: and you are sure it works?
[01:59] <titun> heguru: i don't know if it is supported in linux..but it should , what u think
[01:59] <zengen> Anyone familiar with the gedit project manager plugin know how I could open up a project without them all opening in tabs, only in the sidebar?
[01:59] <heguru> titun: well just pastebin the output of lsusb
[02:00] <titun> heguru: with the device attached?
[02:00] <heguru> titun: yes
[02:00] <heguru> !pastebin
[02:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:01] <titun> heguru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40147/
[02:01] <joaob> Morning!
[02:01] <titun> heguru: would u like to see the dmesg also?
[02:01] <joaob> I an not able to access my NTFS partition on HDB - newly installed ubuntu did not list the /dev/hdbN drives.
[02:02] <joaob> *I am
[02:02] <fblade1987> can anyone help, how can i run a shell script without always putting "sh" in front of it
[02:02] <heguru> titun: yes that would be good
[02:02] <joaob> I tried mknod-ing /dev/hdb1, to no avail.
[02:02] <heguru> fblade1987: make the script executable: chmod +x script.sh
[02:03] <joaob> fblade1987: just make it executable
[02:03] <juan__> hello all
[02:03] <titun> heguru: only the relevant last portions : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40148/
[02:03] <joaob> and put it ina  directory that is in your PATH environment variable.
[02:03] <titun> heguru: ignore the Broadcomm Wireless errors
[02:03] <fblade1987> says command not found when i attempt to run it
[02:04] <joaob> fblade1987: if it already is executable, you have to put it in a direcorty in your PATH, or type the path to it
[02:04] <joaob> fblade1987: like $./script.sh"
[02:04] <juan__> i just typed sudo apt-get remove --purge amsn but it didn't delete any of the .amsn files, any idea on how to do this with apt-get?
[02:04] <fblade1987> ok thanks
[02:05] <joaob> anyone have any ideia on how to make /dev/hdb1 accessible ?
[02:05] <heguru> titun: your infrared seems to be detected fine
[02:05] <heguru> titun: what do you want to do with it?
[02:05] <Pici> juan__: purge doesnt remove user preferences, you need to remove those out of your home manually.
[02:05] <titun> heguru: yes yesterday the messages did not show there!
[02:05] <titun> heguru: i want to transfer image from my mobile
[02:05] <titun> heguru: let me try
[02:06] <juan__> thanx Pici
[02:06] <juan__> joaob, can you be more specific?
[02:07] <Whoopie> hi, anybody on gutsy and wants to test uswsusp with usplash support? I've added a patch to bug 109151. I'd be every grateful for any tests. Thanks.
[02:07] <Pici> Whoopie: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[02:08] <darkchr0n0s> 7 days to gutsy :(
[02:08] <Whoopie> Pici: MOTU guys told me to also ask here, but ok.
[02:08] <darkchr0n0s> i want 7.10 :@ :# :'( :(
[02:08] <joaob> juan__: here it is...I have a recently installed system, and /dev/hdb1 is simply not there, in /dev.
[02:08] <fblade1987> are you not able to just run a shell script like unix, by just typing the command name
[02:08] <joaob> juan__: although there is a NTFS partition tehre which works under windows
[02:08] <heguru> fblade1987: only if its in PATH
[02:08] <joaob> and is printed by fdisk
[02:09] <darkchr0n0s> joaob : try sudo fdisk -l
[02:09] <heguru> fblade1987: copy to /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin to run just by typing name
[02:09] <heguru> fblade1987: copy to only one of the folders mentioned above
[02:10] <thesaint4444> is it possible to add a virtual ip alias i.e. eth0:0 in dapper without bringing eth0 up and down? say edit the network file then reload networks via init.d or something?
[02:10] <jrib> fblade1987: . is not in your path, so './foo' if it is in your current directory
[02:10] <heguru> thesaint4444: ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.2
[02:10] <fblade1987> right thank alot helped me out a lot
[02:10] <heguru> thesaint4444: ifconfig eth0:0 up
[02:10] <joaob> darkchr0n0s: I had done that already. As I said, the partition is there
[02:11] <darkchr0n0s> can you paste the output in the bin ?
[02:11] <thesaint4444> heguru: ok and what about for a permanent change? i.e. after reboot..
[02:12] <heguru> thesaint4444: add it to network file
[02:12] <joaob> darkchr0n0s: the values returned by fdisk are a bit "funny", though
[02:12] <darkchr0n0s> joaob : can you paste the output in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:12] <thesaint4444> heguru: ok, and to make that change available straight away?
[02:13] <titun> heguru: my mobile battery drained... i will try to send something from mobile to PC later.. but do u think this will be sufficient to transfer or anything else is needed?
[02:13] <heguru> thesaint4444: what i wrote above: sudo ifconfig eth0:0 yourip && sudo ifconfig eth0:0 up
[02:13] <titun> heguru: like some other interface, i have irda-utils and setserial installed,
[02:13] <heguru> titun: that should be enough
[02:14] <heguru> titun: just remember that your irda port is /dev/ttyUSB0 if any software asks
[02:14] <titun> heguru: ah ok
[02:14] <joaob> darkchr0n0s:  hmmm... -l ooptions gives me more info thatn "p" inside fdksik
[02:14] <joaob> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40149/
[02:14] <titun> heguru:i will come back and inform you if that worked...and will also edit the forum post
[02:14] <joaob> darkchr0n0s: It looks like it is plainly corrupted
[02:14] <joaob> although windows can read it.
[02:14] <thesaint4444> heguru: ok, thanks will test it out...
[02:14] <juan__> joaob you need to install ntfs configuration tool
[02:15] <juan__> joaob, you find it in add/remove
[02:15] <heguru> titun: ok, good luck :)
[02:15] <thesaint4444> heguru: it is on a remote connection machine and i dont want to loose the interface for obvious reasons...
[02:16] <titun> heguru: oh btw according to this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto i did SETSERIAL=/dev/ttyS1, [step 5]  should i change that to /dev/ttyUSB0?
[02:16] <joaob> juan__: I can't see how that will help , if the partiotin table is corrupt.
[02:16] <heguru> thesaint4444: normally /etc/init.d/network restart will not disconnect you
[02:16] <joaob> I'd need to create a new onematching the dirves contents...
[02:16] <heguru> titun: yes
[02:16] <shriphani> heguru, I installed vim-full but I still don
[02:16] <titun> ok
[02:17] <shriphani> t have syntax highlighting.
[02:17] <shriphani> sorry, typo there.
[02:17] <heguru> shriphani: one min
[02:17] <darkchr0n0s_> joaob : just paste it there
[02:17] <thesaint4444> heguru: yes, thats what i was wondering... thanks...
[02:17] <joaob> darkchr0n0s_:  it is there
[02:17] <joaob> darkchr0n0s_:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40149/
[02:18] <filthpig> hi, isn't OpenOffice 2.3 added to the feisty repos?
[02:18] <heguru> filthpig: no
[02:19] <thesaint4444> heguru: what if there is a syntax/config error in the network file? will i loose the existing interface or just not get the new one?
[02:19] <novato_br> 
[02:19] <novato_br> 
[02:19] <novato_br> ola
[02:20] <joaob> eeeek
[02:20] <Pici> !br | novato_br
[02:20] <ubotu> novato_br: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:20] <heguru> thesaint4444: if error in only new one then you will not get the new one, if you modified the exiting ones and there is some error there, you will loose your connection
[02:20] <codecaine> hey how can I move all the files in one directory on a ftp server to another part of the ftp server at one time?
[02:20] <joaob> juan__, darkchr0n0s_thanks for the help
[02:20] <novato_br> ci
[02:20] <joaob> juan__, darkchr0n0s_: founfd it out
[02:20] <joaob> winXtraPain did not create a parttition table on hdb!!
[02:20] <joaob> the FS is on raw /dev/hdb
[02:20] <joaob> eeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkk
[02:20] <novato_br> 
[02:21] <joaob> taht makes me __sick__
[02:21] <juan__> joaob so you need to create a patrition table, right?
[02:21] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[02:21] <joaob> juan__: No.
[02:21] <Baikonur> bad grammar makes me [sic] 
[02:21] <thesaint4444> heguru: ok, cool, just trying to check before i take action.. thanks :-)
[02:21] <juan__> joaob then?
[02:21] <novato_br> joaob, what do you make  sick ?
[02:21] <filthpig> heguru, okey, what's the easiest way of getting openoffice 2.3 on a feisty system with minimum fuss?
[02:21] <joaob> juan__: I can  reate one tehre, or I would overwriute teh beggning of tthe filesystem
[02:22] <joaob> I could already mount it
[02:22] <joaob> mount
[02:22] <joaob> the painfull part is see such a crappy thing done.
[02:22] <joaob> but I can work fine now.
[02:22] <heguru> filthpig: wait for 8 days, then upgrade to gutsy
[02:22] <heguru> filthpig: not exactly minimum fuss!
[02:24] <krekon> I have kubuntu feisty and I want to install printer Epson stylus c84 but there is no driver for this printer in printer list. What should I do?
[02:24] <ch3ckm8e> find the driver online, and install it on ubuntu
[02:25] <codecaine> anybody know how to copy a directory recursively by ftp to another directory on the ftp server?
[02:25] <krekon> ch3ckm8e there is not driver for linux for this model of epson
[02:26] <heguru> codecaine: use GUI ftp tools if you have the option (gftp, filezilla)
[02:26] <heguru> codecaine: though I guess it can be dont with cli ftp too
[02:26] <Indiadev_Techie> can any one help me ??
[02:27] <ch3ckm8e> krekon: do you have a windows machine?
[02:27] <codecaine> Id idn't see it in gftp either
[02:27] <krekon> ch3ckm8e yes
[02:27] <ch3ckm8e> krekon: is it possible to install the printer on the windows machine and network the printer via samba to the ubuntu machine?
[02:28] <krekon> ch3ckm8e no I don't have network
[02:28] <fevel> set it up
[02:28] <fevel> it would be a good idea to get rid of those unsupported hardware
[02:29] <Indiadev_Techie> is there any support for mp3,mpeg & other video/audio formats on ubuntu....
[02:29] <Kleber_> hello folks, I need to setup a new x86 desktop machine. I'd like to install gutsy beta and I know soon it will get the stable. My question is: if I install gutsy beta today, when the stable get available, can I update the beta to stable throw the internet ? if yes, how can I do that ?
[02:29] <ch3ckm8e> krekon: you have a few options i can think of off the top of my head
[02:29] <ch3ckm8e> indiadev_techie: get vlc player for linux
[02:29] <punzada> Anyone know off the top of their head if/how to set the window decoration plugin in compizfusion from formatting 'any' window to any window but the 'dock' window?
[02:29] <maconith> Indiadev_Techie: please, search before coming here.
[02:29] <Pici> !mp3 | Indiadev_Techie
[02:29] <ubotu> Indiadev_Techie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:29] <ch3ckm8e> Kleber_: yes.. through the update manager provided in ubuntu
[02:30] <Indiadev_Techie> i want the dowloads....i m new 2 ubuntu....
[02:30] <krekon> ch3ckm8e it is wierd that debian sarge (my old system) had a driver for c84 but ubuntu don't
[02:30] <maconith> Indiadev_Techie: This really isn't a big issue.
[02:30] <ch3ckm8e> Indiadev_Techie: also check out the howtoforge on "setting up the perfect desktop ubuntu"
[02:30] <Pici> Indiadev_Techie: Please read the links that ubotu gave you
[02:30] <codecaine> filezilla don't have it either :(
[02:30] <Kleber_> ch3chm8e: just using it ? all the software will be upgraded (even the wallpaper, etc..) ?
[02:31] <Indiadev_Techie> but i dont have internet connection..i wanna download manually...
[02:31] <fevel> krekon, then I guess there is a driver online somewhere, I had a similar problem with canon i320
[02:31] <Pici> Indiadev_Techie: What exactly is the question here?
[02:31] <fevel> krekon, have you checked linuxprint .org
[02:31] <fevel> ?
[02:31] <ch3ckm8e> Kleber_: yes there is an update manager that will update your system
[02:31] <heguru> codecaine: gftp has it, just select the folder and press -> key
[02:31] <heguru> codecaine: unless I understood your question completely wrong
[02:32] <Kleber_> ch3chm8e: thanks, I will download and install the gutsy beta right now and later I upgrade it...
[02:32] <ch3ckm8e> krekon: a linux driver for debian should work in ubuntu.. try it and let me kno
[02:32] <fevel> I had to install windows on vmware server to get the damn thing working
[02:32] <krekon> fevel no , I'll check it now
[02:32] <maconith> fevel: poor you.
[02:32] <fevel> maconith, yes...I got  me pretty frustrated
[02:32] <ch3ckm8e> fevel: lol i thought of that solution
[02:33] <codecaine> yea I figured it out thanks heguru
[02:33] <Chamunks> does anyone know why im having trouble connecting to a vista shared folder in ubuntu this folder has shared permissions set up fine and it doesent have a password set but ubuntu keeps asking me for login credentials
[02:33] <codecaine> I selected the files then drag drop
[02:33] <Indiadev_Techie> i wanna download audio/video codec like (specially mp3,mpeg) for ubuntu manually.......u dont have internet connection at home......
[02:33] <Indiadev_Techie> sorry "i"
[02:33] <ch3ckm8e> Indiadev_Techie: why not just use VLC for this?? It contains all the codecs you need
[02:33] <fevel> Chamunks, I had a similar problem too! lol try typing the direct ip on nautilus
[02:34] <Steven_Laptop> Can some tell me what setting to edit in Xorg to kill the horizontal scrolling?
[02:34] <fevel> Chamunks,  like smb://ip
[02:34] <Chamunks> fevel, ill give that a try
[02:34] <Indiadev_Techie> i wanna download audio/video codec like (specially mp3,mpeg) for ubuntu manually.......i dont have internet connection at home......
[02:34] <Indiadev_Techie> any other ???
[02:34] <Indiadev_Techie> give me the link.......
[02:34] <Chamunks> fevel, still asks me for the password
[02:34] <poningru_> Indiadev_Techie, go to packages.ubuntu.com
[02:35] <poningru_> and download it from there
[02:35] <ch3ckm8e> Indiadev_Techie: sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:35] <Chamunks> fevel, sigh i hate windows
[02:35] <fevel> Chamunks, dang
[02:35] <poningru_> ch3ckm8e, he just said he doesnt have internet at home
[02:35] <Chamunks> fevel, if my friend had a nix box i would just ssh
[02:35] <heguru> Indiadev_Techie: you can download the codecs from http://www.medibuntu.org/
[02:36] <fevel> Chamunks, yes
[02:36] <ch3ckm8e> poningru_: if he doesn't have the internet at home how does he expect to install the codecs?
[02:36] <ch3ckm8e> poningru_: i mean download not install
[02:36] <Chamunks> any one know what this could be a password free windows share is having ubuntu ask me for login credentials
[02:36] <fevel> Indiadev_Techie, with internet access you can just click the unsupported media and it will get the codecs online
[02:37] <heguru> Chamunks: are you sure its password free? did you try accessing it from windows?
[02:37] <Chamunks> fevel, sigh i wish this would be easier but windows networking is allways beyond complicated for its issues
[02:37] <poningru_> ch3ckm8e, cause obviously he is connected now....
[02:37] <poningru_> ch3ckm8e, please think before you speak
[02:37] <Chamunks> fevel, sorry i was distracted while i typed that last sentence disregard it :P
[02:37] <fevel> heguru, good idea, try accessing from windows to see if the problem persists Chamunks
[02:37] <Indiadev_Techie> oh man....i m in cybercafe......
[02:37] <Chamunks> heguru, i can check it in my vm
[02:38] <juan__> i have serious problems while sending files though kopete, it is really slow an it usually hangs at 8-20%, any ideas on how to solve this?
[02:38] <Chamunks> heguru, i can see the shares but every time i try getting into one it prompts me
[02:39] <heguru> Chamunks: you can access the share from your windows VM?
[02:39] <fevel> juan__, yes, I guess the protocol isnt stable yet
[02:39] <ch3ckm8e> poningru_: the last time i will refer to this issue, if you read his first post he states he wants to DOWNLOAD the codecs.. thanks for the reminder that i need to think before i speak
[02:39] <Chamunks> heguru, booting now
[02:39] <Chamunks> heguru, its vista so if vista cant talk to vista than theres an issue here lol
[02:39] <fevel> juan__, although there are other methods
[02:39] <heguru> Chamunks: normally vista doesn't allow password free shares by default, and guest account is also disabled
[02:40] <heguru> Chamunks: in other words, its quite difficult to get password free shares in a stock vista without modifying security policy
[02:40] <ch3ckm8e> Chamunks: have you tried the local admin password/?
[02:41] <amadeux> Any users of VirtualBox here? Right now, the virtual network interface is running NAT to the real interface, but I can't connect to servers within virtualbox? How do I do that?
[02:41] <ch3ckm8e> Chamunks: the login:password credentials for the user that created the share or local admin should be able to login to that share
[02:41] <Chamunks> ch3ckm8e, i tried his username he doesent use a password
[02:41] <Chamunks> heguru, we altered the specific folders privelages
[02:42] <heguru> Chamunks: allowing everyone full access does not make it password less
[02:42] <juan__> fevel, what are those other ways?
[02:42] <Chamunks> heguru, true enough
[02:42] <ch3ckm8e> Chamunks: try this, go into Places > Connect To a Server and type in the ip address for the machine. if it prompts you for the password go back into the windows machine and reset the admin password then login with the credentials Administrator:password
[02:43] <heaven> got some partition problems can anyone help me ? please PM me if you got a couple of minutes
[02:43] <heguru> heaven: maybe asking you're question here will be more helpful
[02:43] <fevel> juan__, dont come to mind right now, ask people on the channel, ive chosen a rather complicated way...I create a torrent and share the torrent only, it goes superbly fast. But thats me, the comlicated guy
[02:43] <heguru> amadeux: try #vbox
[02:44] <juan__> fevel thanks
[02:44] <xubuntuM> how to install ubuntu server in expert mode
[02:44] <fevel> juan__, no prob
[02:44] <Chamunks> God damn i hate windows
[02:44] <ch3ckm8e> Chamunks: have you tried to reset the administrator password on that machine?
[02:45] <heaven> okay. I wanted to install ubuntu on a 40gb partition, 10 gb swap space, and another 100 GB storage space and now i got in "computer"two floppies from wich one is the 100GB partition but i can't acces it a DVDRW and the filesistem partition wich is 40 GB what should i do at reinstal to make it just right?
[02:45] <ch3ckm8e> Chamunks: then set it with an appropriate password
[02:45] <darkangel> hello
[02:47] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: go into console and type cd /media
[02:47] <heaven> done
[02:47] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: does it list the 100gb partition?
[02:47] <filthpig> hehe, heguru, I'm already on gutsy, I'm asking for a friend of mine
[02:47] <sjordal> hey i'm trying to make a customised install cd set. i'd like it to prompt for a second cd with extra packages
[02:47] <heaven> heaven@Station-Void:~$ cd /media
[02:47] <heaven> heaven@Station-Void:/media$
[02:47] <heaven> heaven@Station-Void:/media$
[02:47] <sjordal> anyone know what i need to modify ? something in preseed?
[02:47] <idleone_> heaven: why do you need/have 10gb swap? usauly swap is 2x RAM
[02:48] <b08y> does someone the ircchannel where i can find totem
[02:48] <heguru> shriphani: any progress with syntax highlighting on vim?
[02:48] <heaven> i dont know
[02:48] <heguru> shriphani: are you gutsy?
[02:48] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: i should've asked first, is the 100gb partition on a seperate harddrive from your ubuntu install?
[02:48] <Chamunks> ch3ckm8e, its not my machine unfortunately i dont get admin rights
[02:48] <idleone_> b08y: sudo apt-get install totem
[02:48] <heaven> no it's all on the same drive
[02:48] <fevel> b08y, comes preinstalled
[02:48] <fevel> or that =)
[02:48] <darkangel> is gusty stable enough for a desktop
[02:49] <Steven_Laptop> Does anyone no what I need to edit in xorg to kill horz scrolling on this laptop?
[02:49] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: if you are going to create 3 partitions and one of them is going to be 100gb for storage space make sure you set the mount point correctly for that storage space
[02:49] <idleone_> darkangel: yes and support in #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <Chamunks> Im going to try a power cycle of everything
[02:49] <Chamunks> thanks all!
[02:49] <heaven> and wich mount point should i set for the 100 GB storage space?
[02:49] <b08y> idleone_: im talking about where is the totem irchannel
[02:49] <heguru> b08y: i don't think totem has its own irc channel
[02:49] <idleone_> oh
[02:50] <idleone_> #totem maybe
[02:50] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: i dont know.. that mount point is going to be a folder you use to access that partition
[02:50] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: you can use any directory you create
[02:50] <heaven> please explain.... i don't understand so when i have to resize the partitions at ubuntu install what should i do then?
[02:50] <heguru> b08y: if its totem on ubuntu, you can ask here, maybe someone can help
[02:51] <heguru> b08y: you can also try #gstreamer
[02:51] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: first, why are you resizing partitions? are you dual-booting os'es or something similiar?
[02:52] <heaven> no i want the 40 GB linux partition and the other 100 GB partition for me to put movies music software and stuff like that IN LINUX
[02:52] <heaven> understand?
[02:52] <usr13> heaven, Next, use free space for Ubuntu install.
[02:52] <ch3ckm8e> heaven; go into console and type mount and paste what you got
[02:53] <heaven> /dev/sda3 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:53] <heaven> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[02:53] <heaven> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[02:53] <heaven> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[02:53] <heaven> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[02:53] <heaven> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[02:53] <heaven> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[02:53] <heaven> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[02:53] <heaven> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[02:53] <heguru> !pastebin | heaven
[02:53] <ubotu> heaven: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:53] <heaven> /dev/sda2 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[02:53] <heaven> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[02:54] <xubuntuM> i have probem with installing ubuntu server
[02:54] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: do you see sda3 and sda2?? those are your two partitions.. one is the root file system (ubuntu) on / and the other is on /home
[02:55] <heaven> ...right
[02:55] <heaven> ?
[02:55] <usr13> xubuntuM, What seems to be the problem ?
[02:55] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: this isn't windows. its not going to be C:\ and D:\ it will be /folder/partition1 /folder/partition2
[02:56] <heaven> ok sorry yeah im a ex windows user and where do i find the second partition? and why do i have a 100 GB floppy drive?
[02:56] <b0nza1> ooooooowwwbuuuunnnnntooooooooooo
[02:56] <b0nza1> 100gb floppy ehh
[02:57] <heaven> yeah
[02:57] <b0nza1> hmm sounds kinda big..
[02:57] <heaven> its the other partition
[02:57] <heaven> ;))
[02:57] <heaven> i know
[02:57] <usr13> heaven, partitions are numbered
[02:57] <xubuntuM> usr13: during the install it freez at 6%
[02:57] <usr13> drives are lettered
[02:57] <b0nza1> should be something like /media/disk
[02:58] <ch3ckm8e> bonza1: it is the same device sda
[02:58] <heaven> floppy 1 | floppy drive | CD-RW/DVDRW | Filesystem
[02:58] <xubuntuM> usr13: in step hardwar configuration it freeses at 6% (tmr290)
[02:58] <heaven> this is what i have in computer
[02:58] <usr13> heaven, An IDE drive will be hda    A scsi drive will be sda   partition one will be hda1  or sda1
[02:59] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: you have 2 partitions sda2 and sda3 go look in mount
[02:59] <heaven> look where?
[02:59] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: in terminal type mount
[02:59] <Pici> !paste
[02:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:59] <heaven> ok can you tell me if i reinstall what exactly should i set as mount point for each one to work just as expected?
[03:01] <usr13> heaven, That is an open-ended question.  It all depends on the hard drive space you have compared to your plans for using the system.
[03:01] <opexoc> How is called program to add new programs to menu Aplications?
[03:01] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: if you reinstall you can choose what you set the mount point as.. it is up to you but i would recommend you set the mount point for the 100 gb partition to be /JUNK to make it completely idiot proof
[03:01] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: once you boot up ubuntu you can see that you will indeed have a 100gb folder named JUNK under /
[03:02] <heguru> shriphani: incase you are still here, you have to edit /etc/vimrc and uncomment syntax on
[03:02] <ch3ckm8e> heguru: why do we do it? why do we help people :P
[03:03] <ch3ckm8e> heaven: check out ULTIMATE UBUNTU i think you will find it to your liking
[03:03] <heguru> ch3ckm8e: ah! I ask that myself everyday
[03:03] <MohammadBoozary> HaniHashemi: Salam :d
[03:03] <Pici> ch3ckm8e: Ultimate Ubuntu isn't an official Ubuntu version.
[03:03] <ch3ckm8e> Asalamwailakum!
[03:03] <ch3ckm8e> Pici: and your point?
[03:03] <heguru> ch3ckm8e: Walikumsalam
[03:04] <MohammadBoozary> HaniHashemi: mibini cheghad inja user dareh ?!
[03:04] <aguitel> ch3ckm8e: what is ultimate ubuntu?
[03:04] <Pici> ch3ckm8e: My point is that we'll be hard pressed to provide support for that.
[03:04] <ch3ckm8e> heguru: where are you located? Im in Alpharetta, Georgia and im 19
[03:05] <ch3ckm8e> aguitel: everything.. it has so many packages it needs to be on a dvd.. but its cool cuz you can install the gamers edition..
[03:05] <Pici> !english | MohammadBoozary
[03:05] <ubotu> MohammadBoozary: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[03:05] <heguru> ch3ckm8e: ah i hate going offtopic here, specially when Pici is watching! maybe ask me in ubuntu-offtopic
[03:05] <Pici> heguru: :)
[03:06] <aguitel> ch3ckm8e: where i can get it?
[03:06] <ch3ckm8e> aguitel: check google for ultimate ubuntu it comes with everything you would ever need on a desktop system unfortunately.. its a very big distribution
[03:06] <ch3ckm8e> Pici: i apoligize for going off topic
[03:06] <aguitel> ch3ckm8e: ok
[03:06] <ch3ckm8e> Pici: and for advocating the use of ultimate ubuntu :P
[03:06] <ikonia> ch3ckm8e don't recommend ubuntu ultimate
[03:06] <heguru> ch3ckm8e: Don't recommend Ultimate ubuntu
[03:06] <MohammadBoozary> Pici: exusme, I'm Speak with my firend
[03:07] <cberl1> Hi folks.  I was trying to use Sabayon and Pessulus yesterday and it appears to have done something to my default desktop settings -- I get a default GNOME icon set, a panel with nothing on it (and about two inches wide), no default background, etc.  I think this has to do with gconf, but I can't seem to find out how to set it back to "defaults".
[03:07] <darkchr0n0s_> anyone knows, why i cannot resume some torrents in deluge.... it's just paused and won't resume :(
[03:07] <heguru> cberl1: this is #ubuntu support channel
[03:07] <aguitel> ch3ckm8e: i think there will be version gutsy in this ultimate
[03:07] <zimmy__> my usb keyboard wont load on startup? do i need to add a usb to the kernel?
[03:07] <cberl1> heguru: Good.  Then I'm in the right place.
[03:08] <ch3ckm8e> aguitel; im using it right now ;)
[03:08] <cberl1> !sabayon
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sabayon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <cberl1> !pessulus
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pessulus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <cberl1> !ubotu
[03:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:08] <Pici> cberl1: While you are in the right place, I think you'll find better support for those programs from a gnome channel, irc.gnome.org I believe.
[03:08] <aguitel> ch3ckm8e: fesity version?
[03:08] <aguitel> ch3ckm8e: feisty version?
[03:09] <cberl1> Pici: Fine.  But Sabayon works just fine in Fedora and Debian.  This IS an Ubuntu issue....
[03:09] <ch3ckm8e> aguitel: get 1.5.. and then you can upgrade it to the version of your liking later
[03:09] <Pici> heguru: Saybayon is the name of a distro and also the name of a profile lockdown application.
[03:09] <Pici> cberl1: hmm.
[03:09] <Pici> cberl1: On Feisty or Gutsy?
[03:09] <aguitel> ch3ckm8e: a ok
[03:09] <aguitel> ch3ckm8e: is live dvd too ?
[03:09] <cberl1> Feisty.
[03:09] <AJ--> ei guys.. my sound is gone after i restarted my PC.. wat seem to be the problem???
[03:09] <heguru> Pici: oh, my bad
[03:10] <ch3ckm8e> aguitel: please check your pms
[03:10] <Pici> heguru: It confused me at first too :)
[03:10] <aguitel> ch3ckm8e: what is pms?
[03:10] <cyrano> Hi. Get all the time a large error in firefox starting with: BeaglePageLoad: beagleWriteContent/Metadata failed: [Exeption... and it goes on. I think it has with parts of my hardisk being read only mode... but i don't really know or what to do. I haven't done anything special. it just happened. Please help
[03:10] <usr13>  To get gnome specific support try ##gnome channel  e.g.  /join ##gnome
[03:10] <ch3ckm8e> aguitel: lol.. yes its a live dvd email me at ch3ckm8e@gmail.com i would like to know your thoughts
[03:10] <Ubersoldat> AJ--: check your dmesg and syslog to check out for posible errors
[03:11] <Pici> usr13: gnome has their own IRC server, afaik they dont have any official channels on freenode.
[03:11] <AJ--> Ubersoldat: how can i check that
[03:11] <Ubersoldat> just type dmesg
[03:11] <dooglus> I just turned the brightness down on my laptop by hitting the 'brightness down' button, but the 'brightness up' button doesn't turn it back up again.
[03:12] <dooglus> I can barely read the screen now - how can I turn the brightness back up?
[03:12] <AJ--> ok its in terminal ryt
[03:12] <dooglus> please highlight me in any replies so I can see what you say
[03:13] <usr13> Pici I think you are wrong.
[03:13] <Ubersoldat> yes
[03:13] <Ubersoldat> on a terminal
[03:13] <Pici> usr13: Examples?
[03:13] <dooglus> maybe there's a gui or command line ay of changing the brightness?
[03:13] <usr13> Pici, not important
[03:13] <ch3ckm8e> lol any thoughts on dooglus?
[03:14] <cberl1> So....  Basically you guys are referring me off to GNOME to get this fixed?  I can't even find any info for Sabayon googling it with (aside from the distro)
[03:14] <nicolas_> salut a tous!
[03:14] <Ubersoldat> cberl1: not to gnome, but to the gnome irc server where most of the projects have their own room
[03:14] <fernando_> & games
[03:15] <usr13> cberl1, We would be glad to help you, but our knowledge about gnome is less than what you'll find on the ##gnome channel
[03:15] <cberl1> Right.  Even though this is a Ubuntu issue.  (As I mentioned, Sabayon works the way I was using it.  Just not on Ubuntu)
[03:15] <usr13> cberl1, But you are welcome to ask your questions.
[03:15] <Pici> cberl1: Have you checked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sabayon/ ?
[03:15] <nicolas_> pyjkjd
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[03:15] <nicolas_> rst
[03:15] <nicolas_> rtj
[03:15] <nicolas_> rt
[03:15] <nicolas_> jr
[03:15] <nicolas_> jr
[03:15] <nicolas_> rj
[03:15] <nicolas_> rsjsj*jy
[03:15] <Pici> nicolas_: stop
[03:15] <nicolas_> ti
[03:15] <cberl1> All I really want is to get my default settings back without reinstalling.
[03:15] <nicolas_> u
[03:15] <nicolas_> t
[03:15] <nicolas_> yr
[03:15] <nicolas_> yy
[03:15] <Pici> !ops | nicolas_
[03:15] <ubotu> nicolas_: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[03:15] <nicolas_> d
[03:16] <demis_> hi everybody
[03:16] <Pici> jrib: ty
[03:16] <ch3ckm8e> why even provide support for sabayon?? this is a ubuntu channel..
[03:16] <Pici> !info sabayon | ch3ckm8e
[03:16] <ubotu> ch3ckm8e: sabayon: system administration tool to manage GNOME desktop settings. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 122 kB, installed size 2352 kB
[03:16] <usr13> cberl1, I'm quite sure that if anyone knew how to do that, they would have told you by now.  If you will type    /join ##gnome   and ask again, you might get a better answer.
[03:17] <cberl1> usr13: Fair enough.
[03:17] <heguru> cberl1: WAIT, i found out!
[03:17] <ch3ckm8e> oops i was thinking of sabayonlinux.org is this different?
[03:18] <Pici> ch3ckm8e: Yes. Its confusing, I know.
[03:18] <aguitel> ch3ckm8e: is impossible downloading in mirrors
[03:18] <ch3ckm8e> aguitel: i would just get the torrent
[03:18] <usr13> heguru, Too bad, he's gone.  Sorry to say, I ran him off.
[03:19] <usr13> heguru, What did you find?
[03:19] <heguru> ush13: the defaults for gnome panel are part of gnome-panel-data
[03:19] <usr13> He will more than likely be on ##gnome channel
[03:19] <heguru> usr13: a reinstall on that would've fixed
[03:19] <heguru> usr13: no he's not there
[03:20] <AJ--> i realy cant find the error in dmesg ,, still cant make my sound to work
[03:20] <usr13> heguru Well, that is where he should be.
[03:20] <ch3ckm8e> AJ: right click on the volume icon and go into preferences, try changing the device
[03:20] <AJ--> ive than that ch3ckm8e
[03:20] <nemo_work> eSVN 0.6.12 has been updated in debian sid.  Is there any chance it will make it into gutsy?
[03:20] <heguru> usr13: actually I pm'ed him :)
[03:20] <Ubersoldat> AJ--: type lspci and check if your sound card is there
[03:21] <nemo_work> right now eSVN is essentially non-functional in ubuntu
[03:21] <nemo_work> well. semi-non-functional
[03:21] <Pici> nemo_work: Probably not, but you can file a bug report on it. Also please move gutsy discussion to #ubuntu+1
[03:21] <nemo_work> RapidSVN suffers from several deficiences eSVN does not
[03:21] <Ubersoldat> 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
[03:21] <Ubersoldat> something like that
[03:21] <nemo_work> Pici: aight. will drop by there
[03:22] <AJ--> Ubersoldat: i see the sound card  Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] 
[03:22] <miles8> Anyone have a nice bash cmd to add a string of text to the start of each line of a file
[03:22] <heguru> miles8: you can do that with a vim macro
[03:23] <jrib> miles8: sed
[03:23] <miles8> sed is probably better, about time for me to learn it too
[03:23] <dooglus> ch3ckm8e: I rebooted, and it stayed dark
[03:24] <Ubersoldat> miles8: something like sed s/^/"String"/g foo.txt
[03:24] <ch3ckm8e> dooglus that is quite the error.. let me look into it and ill get back to you
[03:24] <Steven_Laptop> how do I disabling taps
[03:24] <miles8> Ubersoldat: so it just uses regex?
[03:25] <zlobendogg> re
[03:25] <Ubersoldat> miles8: yeap
[03:25] <ch3ckm8e> dooglus: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287271
[03:26] <AJ--> Ubersoldat: do ubuntu have problem with via sound cards like this  -->  Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] 
[03:27] <dooglus> ch3ckm8e: I have an ATI card, not SiS
[03:27] <zlobendogg> Today my Ubuntu failed to start normally. After loading screen it wrote somtning like "X failed to start - it might be disconfigured" and then "X server is disabled". But i didn`t ever touch it =) Why can it be and how should i solve it?
[03:27] <dooglus> ch3ckm8e: rebooting and adjusting the brightness quickly before ubuntu breaks the brightness controls worked for me
[03:27] <kanjo> hello there, if the disk i installed to is /dev/sdb2, so in grub> root (hd0,0) must be changed to?
[03:28] <Kaur> has anyone been successful running gutsy with two monitors while both have different resolution?
[03:28] <heguru> Kaur: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[03:28] <Kaur> K
[03:28] <usr13> kanjo,  hd0,1
[03:28] <sandr> how many days till gutsy release ?
[03:28] <|logo|> 8
[03:29] <sandr> nice :d
[03:29] <usr13> kanjo, no it would be hd1,1
[03:29] <octman> lo installed ubuntu and only picked up 1 h/d
[03:29] <dooglus> which package should I file 'broken brightness control' against?
[03:29] <fblade1987> how can i save my wpa enterprise setting so when im a Uni i dont have to put the settings in all the time/
[03:30] <usr13> sdb1 in gnome terminology would be hd1,1
[03:30] <usr13> CORRECTION:  sdb1 in grub terminology would be hd1,1
[03:31] <kanjo> usr13: thx
[03:31] <zlobendogg> Ok, no one knows what to do with this X error. Next question - can i repair it from livecd?
[03:31] <fblade1987> anyone?
[03:31] <usr13> kanjo, Sorry for the confusion
[03:32] <ch3ckm8e> is there a vmware-any-any update that works with vmware server 1.0.4?
[03:32] <kanjo> usr13: np
[03:33] <usr13> kanjo, I just didn't want you to doc my pay  :)
[03:33] <octman> hello
[03:34] <ch3ckm8e> i wonder if dell tech supports ubuntu
[03:34] <usr13> kanjo, Didn't want you to cut my salary for giving inaccurate information.
[03:34] <gautada> How do I determine which package provided a specific file
[03:34] <novato_br> 
[03:34] <fblade1987> how can i save my wpa Enterprise settings in ubunut
[03:34] <Flats> Any pppd users here today?
[03:34] <usr13> ch3ckm8e, Well, if they won't, we will !
[03:34] <kanjo> novato_br: nandesuka?
[03:35] <octman> lo installed ubuntu and only picked up 1 h/d
[03:35] <usr13> gautada, apt-cache search
[03:35] <zlobendogg> ,      =(
[03:35] <novato_br> i don't speak japanese, kanjo ! I'm funny
[03:35] <gautada> fblade, you can setup "Location" using System->Administration->Network
[03:36] <beanage> Hola =)
[03:37] <stib> Hi all. I'm trying to set up the SP-DIF i/o on my motherboard, it works in windows, but I don' get any joy in ubuntu. When I try to run alsamixer I get an error saying "function  snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device" Also when I run the GUI mixer from the settings menu I get a blank list in the Device menu.
[03:37] <_Andrew> !es beanage
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es beanage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <kanjo> novato_br: lolz, i thought I could speak in my native here
[03:38] <zlobendogg> X failed to start
[03:38] <_Andrew> !es
[03:38] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:38] <novato_br> kanjo, go to #fisica, and talk to akamaru
[03:38] <zlobendogg> and on russian?
[03:38] <Pici> !ru | zlobendogg
[03:38] <ubotu> zlobendogg:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:38] <fblade1987> anyone?
[03:38] <novato_br> kanjo, he speaks little japanese language
[03:38] <zlobendogg> 10[
[03:38] <octman> hello
[03:39] <octman> installed ubuntu and only picked up 1 h/d
[03:39] <Satyr>  
[03:39] <usr13> octman, Please elaborate
[03:40] <usr13> octman, What is your question?
[03:40] <cosmodad> how do I fix: "Found x installations of <program> on your system! I won't run until there is only one of me"
[03:40] <cosmodad> I have definitely not installed the same binary from different packages
[03:40] <usr13> cosmodad, apt-get -f install package-name
[03:40] <ch3ckm8e> octman: go into console and type cd /dev/sd* if its a sata drive or cd /dev/hd* if its an ide
[03:40] <octman> i got a 80 gig and 40 gig h/d in pc but only got the 80 gig space
[03:40] <octman> kk
[03:40] <ch3ckm8e> what does the output tell you
[03:40] <usr13> cosmodad, apt-get -f install
[03:41] <gautada> usr13: No not working I am trying to figure out which package provided "/usr/bin/gnome-keyboard-properties" and %>apt-cache search /usr/bin/gnome-keyboard-properties turned up nothing.
[03:41] <Evanlec> who wants to help me compile a custom kernel today?? :) :)
[03:41] <cosmodad> usr13: doesn't make a difference...
[03:41] <beanage> Quick Q&A, can you install compize or beryl on ubuntu 6?
[03:41] <Satyr> Hi
[03:41] <Evanlec> lol
[03:42] <genii> Pici: :)
[03:42] <ch3ckm8e> octman: im sorry go into /dev and type ls sd* for sata or hd* for ide
[03:42] <beanage> .
[03:42] <cosmodad> usr13: n/m used a broken package
[03:42] <stib> Anyone know how to get alsamixer up and running?
[03:42] <kimmey> @gnome
[03:42] <kimmey> ] gnome
[03:43] <Connor> Why isn't IP masking set as a default flag set
[03:43] <mr_marvin> hello. i bought new HD, and use win xp/ubuntu. what do you guggest? ntfs or fat32?
[03:43] <Evanlec> beanage, sure
[03:43] <jrib> mr_marvin: ext3
[03:43] <kimmey> mr_marvin: nfts
[03:43] <ch3ckm8e> mr_marvin: ntfs for windows
[03:44] <beanage> evanlec, k. just making sure it wasn't some sort of 64 bit thing.
[03:44] <jrib> !ext3 > mr_marvin (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:44] <jatt> !ntfs-3g
[03:44] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:44] <beanage> Evan, you know where I could get a man for that?
[03:44] <usr13> gautada,  apt-cache search keyboard |grep gnome
[03:44] <Connor> jones
[03:44] <Evanlec> beanage, no, nothing requires 64-bit :) some software requires 32-bit tho
[03:44] <Connor> What character flag is IP masking
[03:44] <Evanlec> !compiz | beanage
[03:44] <ubotu> beanage: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:44] <beanage> Evanlec, googles not turning up much but feisty fawn crap.
[03:44] <genii> mr_marvin: If you will have some shared partition I recommend using ext2 and ext driver for windows from fs-driver.org    Various reasons
[03:45] <mr_marvin> i would like to share that disk between win/linux. is ntfs support 100% reliable?
[03:45] <beanage> !compiz | beanage
[03:45] <jones> hi! question about grub. anyone good about it?
[03:45] <jatt> mr_marvin: yes
[03:45] <ch3ckm8e> mr_marvin: you shouldnt have a problem sharing an ntfs partition unless its thru a usb drive
[03:45] <jatt> mr_marvin: ntfs-3g is stable
[03:45] <mr_marvin> genii: thank you. i'll se more details
[03:45] <ch3ckm8e> jones: what are you trying to accomplish
[03:46] <jrib> mr_marvin: it's reverse engineered... I would rather go with ext3
[03:46] <Evanlec> beanage, i think beryl might suit your version better, im not sure about compiz on dapper, try here http://forum.beryl-project.org/
[03:46] <genii> jrib: Exactly
[03:46] <o00w> in directory structure what does the tilda represent?
[03:46] <Pici> o00w: your home directory
[03:46] <beanage> evanlec, kewl thanks. mind if I ask you a couple other quick ubuntu questions
[03:46] <Pici> o00w: ~/Documents = /home/pici/Documents
[03:46] <Evanlec> beanage, if i can answer them i will
[03:47] <octman> where to is dev lol
[03:47] <jones> ch3ckm8e: after kernelubdate grub does not work, reconfigure menu.lst...is hda5 (second partition) always hd0,4 or could it be hd0,1?
[03:47] <beanage> evanlec, Like how do I update my video card driver? or How can I change my resolution?
[03:47] <Evanlec> beanage, what kinda vid card ya got?
[03:48] <benzon> How do i add More Workspaces only got 2 right now and i want 4 if possible
[03:48] <jatt> right click on the workspaces->Preferences
[03:48] <Evanlec> benzon, right click on the panel applet and preferences
[03:48] <beanage> evanlec, Let me look it up right quick it's a averatec laptop 3700 (ed1)
[03:48] <Evanlec> k
[03:48] <Evanlec> never heard of that brand lol
[03:48] <o00w> Pici: so this screensaver electricsheep wants me to save files @ ~/.sheep but thats not possible...I was under the impression a directory cannot contain a . in the first char
[03:49] <Pici> o00w: Nope, directories can start with a .
[03:49] <ch3ckm8e> jones: dunno? anyone else familiar with a grub??
[03:49] <Evanlec> o00w, directories under your home folder with a . are quite common, they are just hidden from view by default
[03:49] <mr_marvin> ok, one general question: what are chances of rendering hd completely unusable by error in some file sistem driver?
[03:49] <ch3ckm8e> anyone know the proper way to install and configure vmware server on ubuntu??
[03:50] <Pici> o00w: If you are using nautilus you can use ctrl-h to show them or on the terminal ls -a
[03:50] <ch3ckm8e> nvm
[03:50] <Evanlec> !vmware | ch3ckm8e
[03:50] <benzon> Evanlec, thx :) - and now ill do a bug report for all the ati users and gutsy hehe  :) - just found out that if you install the ATI Driver - that Compiz stops working hehe
[03:50] <ubotu> ch3ckm8e: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[03:50] <beanage> Evanlec, if I was using windows I would use run and through up dxdiag to get a direct X diagnostic, how do I do that on linux?
[03:50] <beanage> or something to let me know what it thinks I'm running
[03:51] <benedikt> Can i use LVM to mirror two discs?
[03:51] <benedikt> Like raid.. That is, if one disc fails, you still got your whole data. You jsut change the failed disc and the new one becomes a mirror too
[03:51] <Evanlec> benzon, i found using the default ati driver worked better with compiz (atleast on feisty)
[03:51] <Evanlec> beanage, you can try 'lspci' on the command line
[03:51] <kanjo> cho, can some1 here show me how to install epiphany-webkit?
[03:51] <Matic`Makovec> Hello there. I need some help, urgent! Would anyone have an idea what to do about this? http://pastebin.com/m43f16e41
[03:51] <Evanlec> benedikt, surely
[03:52] <octman> thanks ch3ckm8e
[03:52] <beanage> Evan, I'm guessing it's a Via onboard video card.
[03:52] <rpj8> Hey guys, where do the install scripts get sent when you add them to startup via the gnome gui session manager
[03:52] <o00w> Pici: so when I create a directory with a . in the beginning, after I refresh the folder has gone...does it move to the previous folder?
[03:52] <kanjo> Matic`Makovec: best way is to remove mysql-client and mysql-server, then reinstall
[03:52] <benzon> Evanlec >> so you wood say go and get the ati .run file and just install that or?
[03:53] <rpj8> o00w: adding a . in front of files or folders makes them private
[03:53] <Forage1> Aaah.. Good Morning.  How can I sieze ownership of files and folders from owner: root?
[03:53] <Matic`Makovec> Hrm, alright kanjo.
[03:53] <Pici> o00w: no '..' denotes parent directory.  If you name a file or folder .name its just hidden
[03:53] <vinnie_> Any1 using kiba dock and knows how to stop the icons from going into a spinning frenzy when doing mouseover? :(
[03:53] <punsad> Forage1: as root, use the chmod and chown commands to reassign ownsership/permissions
[03:53] <rpj8> Forage: sudo chown user file
[03:54] <JimQode> Forage1, run nautilus as root
[03:54] <rpj8> Hey guys, where do the install scripts get sent when you add them to startup via the gnome gui session manager
[03:54] <jones> question about grub, anyone good in this?
[03:54] <Evanlec> benzon, no i would say do a 'sudo dpkg reconfigure xorg-xserver' and select the ATI when it asks for video card driver
[03:54] <Evanlec> benzon, or simply turn off ati binary driver under restrictedd drivers manager
[03:54] <Evanlec> benzon, and reboot
[03:55] <beanage> Evanlec >> So how do I update the video card drivers? Or use linux to check what it thinks I'm using?
[03:55] <Forage1> Wow.. awesome!  I'll read the man on chmod and chown to work that out.  Next question: How can I change the order of items in the GRUB bootloader list?
[03:55] <benzon> Evanlec ill try that :) i manged to remove the restricet driver before and now Compiz adleest works opening windows aint to good and can crash the desktop if used to mutch so have to shut that off
[03:56] <Evanlec> beanage, you know how to open the terminal?
[03:56] <rpj8> Forage1:
[03:56] <rpj8> Forage1: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/7324-how-do-i-change-boot-order-grub.html
[03:56] <rpj8> Forage1: A little bit of google goes a long way :)
[03:56] <Evanlec> benzon, support for it is a little flakey, i'd try compiz-fusion or talk to the guys in #compiz-fusion
[03:56] <ch3ckm8e> rpj8: couldn't have said it better.. we should put that in TOPIC
[03:56] <beanage> Evan>> yes I do
[03:56] <stib> forage look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:57] <Evanlec> beanage, try typing lspci at your terminal
[03:57] <rpj8> ch3ckm8e: Heh.
[03:57] <Forage1> Terrific!  THanks everyone!
[03:57] <beanage> Evan>> k, big read back
[03:57] <benzon> Evanlec >> It works adleest tho on Gutsy :)
[03:57] <Evanlec> Forage1, lol, you're a model ubuntu user ;)
[03:57] <benzon> Evanlec >> Aint perfect but way better then the others i tryed
[03:58] <Evanlec> beanage, yea, see if u can find something that looks like your vid card
[03:58] <Evanlec> benzon, yea that seemed to be my experience with ATI and compiz as well...nvidia drivers still much better supported under linux, tho that is changing now that ati has finaly released their driver source
[03:58] <beanage> Evenlec>> Apparently the drivers are correct, but my resolution is like 640x480
[03:59] <beanage> Evanlec>> maybe 800x600, but how do I change it from console?
[03:59] <jones> about menu.lst: is hda5 (1st disk, second partition) always hd0,4 or could it be hd0,1?
[03:59] <beanage> err terminal
[03:59] <tvvladimir> hi
[03:59] <tvvladimir> anyone here ever tried running Solidworks on Ubuntu?
[03:59] <Evanlec> beanage, okay, well, here's where you get to edit your xorg.conf file...and trust me you'll probably do it atleast a few times before you get things right :)
[03:59] <aata> hey can anyone telll me what xpde is?
[03:59] <aata> !xpde
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xpde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <Evanlec> beanage, its a lot of fun trust me lol....*sarcasm*
[04:00] <beanage> Evanlec>> hehe did it once and killed my gui
[04:00] <Evanlec> aata, google probly could
[04:00] <stib> !alsamixer
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <stib> !alsa
[04:00] <beanage> evanlec>> is it under etc/apt/ ?
[04:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:00] <jones> !grub
[04:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:01] <Evanlec> beanage, the rescue from that is 'sudo dpkg reconfigure xorg-server' from the terminal
[04:01] <Evanlec> !resolution | beanage
[04:01] <ubotu> beanage: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:01] <beanage> evanlec>> hehe yeah thats how I wound up with this crazy resolution.
[04:01] <Evanlec> start there, i'll look at your xorg.conf if u need
[04:02] <XTaran> Hi, what's Ubuntu's replacement for reportbug?
[04:02] <Evanlec> XTaran, launchpad
[04:02] <Evanlec> i believe
[04:02] <Mark7> Hey everyone.  Is there a "Get Linux" campaign?  Other than Steve Balmer's I mean?
[04:02] <Pici> XTaran: apport automagically reports bugs when things crash, and points you at launchpad.net
[04:02] <XTaran> which launchpad doesn't output anything
[04:02] <Mark7> YOu know, like the Firefox one
[04:03] <rpj8> Hey guys, where do the install scripts get sent when you add them to startup via the gnome gui session manager
[04:03] <XTaran> Pici: Ok, "apport" looks like a point to start searching for more infos. Thx.
[04:04] <beanage> Evan, so you want me to try running the xserver reinstall?
[04:04] <genii> Mark7: Well, thats a bit offtopic for this channel which is mainly geared to tech support
[04:04] <Evanlec> beanage, not reinstall but reconfigure, but read this page first: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:04] <beanage> kk
[04:04] <Mark7> This is tech support?
[04:04] <rpj8> Mark7: Yes
[04:04] <Mark7> I thought it was just general Ubuntu chat
[04:05] <aata> !xfce
[04:05] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[04:05] <Pici> Mark7: Thats #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:05] <Mark7> Where's General?
[04:05] <Mark7> Right
[04:05] <Evanlec> Mark7, but we are also part of the get linux campaign, because without support from these people here, ppl wouldnt be too happy with ubuntu guaranteed
[04:05] <dr3w2morow> I just got my linux and im needing flashplayer 9 but when i fownloaded it through the synpatic manager that flashsomething-nonfree
[04:05] <dr3w2morow> i install it
[04:05] <dr3w2morow> and it still wont work>
[04:05] <Mark7> K.  I'll ask there
[04:05] <aata> uh will installing xfce require me to install new programs? and can i install it w/o installing xubuntu?
[04:06] <toker> does anyone know, why i keep getting i.p adresess, exactly the same as mine except from the last 3 digits are diff, trying to connect to smb (137,138)
[04:06] <Evanlec> aata, you can install xfce and any number of other window managers and switch between them at login
[04:06] <aata> thought so..
[04:06] <aata> thanks evanlec
[04:06] <Evanlec> aata, however if you like and prefer xfce its best to use xubuntu
[04:07] <aata> i just want to test out xfce, and see if i like it
[04:07] <Evanlec> since everything works together a little nicer from the get-go
[04:07] <John117> Hey everybody, I'd like to ask a few questions if I may.  I'm brand new with ubuntu and I'm having trouble with the installation.
[04:07] <Evanlec> aata, you can do that without fear then
[04:07] <aata> cause i dont have any system resource issues as such... so if xfce gives me the look, thats all i want
[04:08] <Matic`Makovec> Err...hey there. Any ideas about this thingie? http://pastebin.com/m43f16e41 (removing mysql-server doesn't help really)
[04:08] <mozjonathan> hi ; is suspend2 (aka tuxonice) included in the default gutsy kernel ?
[04:08] <Pici> aata: Whats the problem with installing xubuntu-desktop?
[04:08] <WaltzingAlong> mozjonathan: i do not think so
[04:08] <aata> i dont know... i guess ill have to put in the effort of finding new apps for everything
[04:08] <John117>  I'm going to wait a minute for you guys to catch up with your questions then I'd like to ask one.  Just let me know.  Thanks! :)
[04:09] <Evanlec> !gutsy | mozjonathan
[04:09] <ubotu> mozjonathan: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[04:09] <fritzs> John117 ask away.
[04:09] <genii> !ask John117
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask john117 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <genii> !ask | John117
[04:09] <ubotu> John117: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:09] <Pici> aata: You can install the xubuntu-desktop package on top of Ubuntu/Kubuntu, it won't hurt anything.
[04:09] <mozjonathan> Evanlec, WaltzingAlong okay, thanks
[04:10] <XTaran> I have to register to report bugs?!?
[04:10] <aata> and i can run gnome apps (banshee fspot etc.) with no trouble?
[04:10] <John117> Okay.  Toshiba Celeron 1.4ghz laptop 512memory 40g hd.  Installing Ubuntu from CD burned yesterday.  6.xx desktop version.  Hangs at 72% of installation every time.  the 7.xx version does not even start up past the main menu screen.  Am I doing something wrong?
[04:10] <betim> hi, I have this new version of ubuntu, and when I select normal visual effects my metacity is gone, I don't want to use emerald, so what should I do?
[04:10] <WaltzingAlong> aata: you can use kde, gnome, xfce, and so on (like fluxbox and others) then run the apps you normally use like fspot or amarok or so on
[04:10] <murlidhar> can anybody make a binary package of a great torrent client called linkage i have used it in fedora unfortunately it does not have any binary package for ubuntu. If anyone can help the author by building a binary package for ubuntu
[04:10] <fritzs> aata, xfce is a window manager, those applications rely on libraries that (while associated with the window manager) don't require the window manager to be running.
[04:11] <aata> ah thanks for clearing that up fritzs
[04:12] <_Andrew> murlidhar: If you have an rpm you could use alien to make it into a deb
[04:12] <murlidhar> _Andrew: i did that it is not working
[04:12] <Evanlec> murlidhar, you could also make one yourself, but thats beyond the scope of support for this channel i believe
[04:12] <murlidhar> Evanlec: i am a noob
[04:12] <aata> also, is alien a foolproof way of converting rpm => deb?
[04:12] <Evanlec> murlidhar, have you tried Deluge?
[04:12] <fritzs> murlidhar: check out deluge in the apt repositories.
[04:12] <Evanlec> aata, hardly
[04:13] <murlidhar> Evanlec: yes i have
[04:13] <WaltzingAlong> !info deluge-torrent
[04:13] <aata> so what could go wrong? corrupt files?
[04:13] <ubotu> Package deluge-torrent does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:13] <Evanlec> murlidhar, whats not to like? ;p
[04:13] <cVsup> i need change usplash in ubuntu 7.04
[04:13] <Evanlec> aata, any number of things, its certainly not foolproof, maybe not corrupted files, but certainly breakage
[04:13] <XTaran> How should I report bugs if the reporting tool has a bug? *grrr*
[04:13] <XTaran> # apport-cli -f -p schedutils
[04:13] <XTaran> Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress? Error: No module named xdg.DesktopEntry
[04:13] <aata> i see
[04:14] <murlidhar> Evanlec: but i felt linkage was working better plus it is light weight
[04:14] <aata> !upsplash
[04:14] <WaltzingAlong> manually via launchpad
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <genii> John117: It does not sound like you are doing anything strange during install. Some hardware especially SATA controllers or odd chipsets can give occasional grief.
[04:14] <usr13> murlidhar, apt-cache search linkage
[04:14] <cVsup> somebody can help me?
[04:14] <XTaran> Ok, my error, package name seems to have changed with gutsy...
[04:14] <John117> genii, do you have any recomendqations?
[04:14] <fritzs> John117:  It sounds like some sort of hardware issue, you're probably not doing anything wrong.  Try 7.10 in a few days if you don't want to devel into the internals of the operating system.
[04:14] <erUSUL> murlidhar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Torrent <<<< there is an effort there to package it
[04:14] <WaltzingAlong> !usplash | cVsup
[04:14] <ubotu> cVsup: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[04:14] <Evanlec> murlidhar, you may be right, but to compile it and install from source probably wouldnt be worth your effort, but look and see if it already has a package for ubuntu
[04:15] <John117> fritzs thanks!
[04:15] <sanguisdex> how can I get my dell laptop to recativate the screen when I open the lid
[04:15] <dr3w2morow> I need flash player on my linux for school... i downloaded the flashplugin-nonfree and it doesnt work? can anyone help me?
[04:15] <XTaran> But the error message is quite misleading...
[04:15] <cVsup> WaltzingAlong, but this manual not work in feisty
[04:15] <Evanlec> John117, try the alternate install cd
[04:15] <XTaran> But the right package name gets the same error:
[04:15] <XTaran> # apport-cli -f -p util-linux
[04:15] <XTaran> Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress? Error: No module named xdg.DesktopEntry
[04:16] <murlidhar> Evanlec: there has been no package built for ubuntu http://code.google.com/p/linkage/
[04:16] <John117>  I'm trying really hard to get rid of windows.  I tried to do a dual boot on my laptop. If i like it, i'll do my desktop, But when it hung at 72%, it @#$ed my laptop so i had to wipe the whole HD. Now I'm VERY wary about trying it on the desktop.
[04:16] <genii> John117: If possible make sure the bios of your computer is set to use SATA drives in what may be "Compatability" or "IDE" mode. More likely to progress further along with install if SATA is the issue. If you have one of the ALternate install CDs  and are doing text install, you can switch to see what error msgs are being generated by alt-f4, these can be enlightening also
[04:17] <John117> Okay!  Alternat instal CD??
[04:17] <murlidhar> Evanlec: i tried to compile it but failed miserably
[04:17] <dr3w2morow> John117: when it boots up go to the system set up and change it to go to your cd-rom before it goes to hard drive... then turn off your computer and when it reloads press your Boot button (probably F12) and press it until it comes up with the install cd that you plugged in
[04:17] <John117> I just burned the one on the website.
[04:17] <genii> John117: If you google something like "laptopname" ubuntu install           you may find some issues addressed on ubuntuforums or similar as well
[04:17] <Evanlec> murlidhar, if you're relatively new to this stuff...i would say dont bother
[04:18] <Evanlec> John117, look on the website again, there is an "alternate" install CD that is a text-based installer but in my opinion is much better than the normal install cd, has much less trouble with hardware usualy
[04:18] <John117> dr3w2morro, when i boot, i press f12 for the boot menu and select CD-ROM.  It boots fine, then i select "Try ubuntu/Install" and it loads fine.  Then i click "install" and it hangs at 72%
[04:18] <WaltzingAlong> John117: there are several from the website. alternate is just for installing through a text interface. the live or desktop ones boot to a kde or gnome session and from there you install or just play
[04:19] <genii> John117: The same location which you got the regular iso, you can check a box near bottom to get Alternate iso instead
[04:19] <murlidhar> Evanlec: i am not that new in compiling from source but this gives me a headache since first u have to compile libtorrent and then compile linkage
[04:19] <John117> Thanks guys.  Very helpful.   More so thank macrosofts tech support :p
[04:19] <Evanlec> murlidhar, yea, see you probly know more about it than me ;p
[04:19] <moppit> Howdy
[04:20] <WaltzingAlong> so in the end you may find that it is just easier to use azureus or any of the other torrent clients/servers (peers) murlidhar
[04:20] <murlidhar> Evanlec: don't know about u but i am a noobie
[04:20] <Evanlec> WaltzingAlong, the alternate cd may allow him to get thru the install process tho, since itrequires less resources
[04:21] <Evanlec> murlidhar, i am too with compiling stuff
[04:21] <jefones> hi
[04:21] <WaltzingAlong> low
[04:21] <murlidhar> WaltzingAlong: no i would like to have a lightweight torrent client for my slow pc
[04:21] <John117> The bios, unfortunately, does not list anything about the transfer mode of the CD-rom or conroller.  I'll try the other options. Thanks all.
[04:21] <breakin> Stupid question, but what version of the linux kernel will be in 7.10? Only thing I could get from the beta-page was "Ubuntu includes the latest Linux kernel, featuring dynticks." which was included in the 2.6.21-kernel... would like to know where to find out these things for myself the next time as well...
[04:22] <WaltzingAlong> breakin: 2.6.22 i think
[04:22] <Pici> breakin: 2.6.22-14
[04:22] <erUSUL> breakin: 2.6.22 heavily patched as allways with ubuntu
[04:22] <breakin> Thanks a lot, that's what I wanted to hear (2.6.22-something)!
[04:23] <Evanlec> is  the -something mean the heavily patched part?
[04:23] <Evanlec> just wondering
[04:23] <genii> John117: Are you using a PPc by any chance?
[04:23] <Evanlec> am wanting to do a custom compile
[04:24] <Spec> How do I disable screen blackout/screensavers/any power management function at all?
[04:24] <dr3w2morow> Guys can anyone msg me with flash player help?
[04:24] <kahrytan> Spec,  why?
[04:24] <erUSUL> Evanlec: no really is just an internal versioning of ubuntu
[04:24] <Spec> kahrytan: i'm in a lab with 30 computers, and we seem to notice that when screens black out/screen saver is activated, it crashes the central server
[04:25] <Spec> it's an ltsp-like lab
[04:25] <Pici> Spec: odd.
[04:25] <incorrect> has anyone got the vpnc client to connect to a cisco vpn?
[04:25] <erUSUL> Evanlec: most add on patches of ubuntu are out of tree drivers
[04:25] <Evanlec> erUSUL, oh, but it does refer to ubuntu-specific patches to the kernel then?
[04:25] <Spec> i agree, i'm sure there's a CLI way to disable screensavers/screen blackouts, right?
[04:25] <WaltzingAlong> dr3w2morow: you installed through the ubuntu.com repositories and which browser?
[04:25] <Evanlec> erUSUL, i see
[04:25] <Pici> Spec: Do you mean xscreensavers or the cli blackouts?
[04:25] <Evanlec> erUSUL, and that provides all the automagick hardware support right?
[04:26] <dr3w2morow> WaltzingAlong: they told me to install flashplugin-nonfree so i did and im using firefox
[04:26] <Spec> Pici: it's not CLI, i haven't seen the problem myself, i was told to disable all power management features as well as the screen savers
[04:26] <hi_hello_nice> explain me something? Someone on irc says "bye, your internet will shut down haha". And 2 seconds later it does. How does someone do that?
[04:26] <Spec> so....both?
[04:26] <erUSUL> Evanlec: it does not mean "we patched it 14 times" its just the 14th "final build" they made afaics
[04:26] <jatt> hi_hello_nice: which irc client do you use?
[04:26] <hi_hello_nice> mirc
[04:26] <Pici> Spec: Is this accross multiple users?
[04:26] <WaltzingAlong> dr3w2morow: ok and what happens then when you visit a website using flash?
[04:26] <Spec> Pici: yes
[04:26] <Spec> Pici: 30 :p
[04:27] <erUSUL> hi_hello_nice: maybe a DDoS ??
[04:27] <jatt> hi_hello_nice: use another irc client.
[04:27] <LadyNikon> uh oh
[04:27] <LadyNikon> kde upgrade heh
[04:27] <hi_hello_nice> jatt: uh? how mirc is vulnerable?
[04:27] <LadyNikon> mirc has tons of those. heh
[04:27] <erUSUL> hi_hello_nice: so it was on windows ;P
[04:27] <Pici> Spec: Do you need to do it from the cli?
[04:27] <hi_hello_nice> show me one?
[04:27] <dr3w2morow> WAltzingalong: it says its not turned on or i dont have the flash player 9 and it takes me to they adobe site but when i try and download it there i get stuck at the litte place where it says Add Extract folders stuff
[04:27] <Evanlec> erUSUL, interesting...was looking at this page...thot maybe i'd give it a shot:    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel
[04:28] <pierre__> hi everybody
[04:28] <John117> genii, what is PPc?
[04:28] <Spec> i was thinking maybe killall gnome-screensaver and chmod -x `which gnome-screensaver`
[04:28] <Pici> Spec: If not, you could try using sabayon/pessalus
[04:28] <pierre__> everyone can help me with acpi fonction
[04:28] <Pici> Spec: or disabling the xscreensaver/gnomescreenaver daemon
[04:28] <WaltzingAlong> dr3w2morow: after installing flashplugin-nonfree you need to close the browser then start it again.
[04:28] <cy_`> hi
[04:28] <cy_`> what's a good cpu/memory stress/performance test-tool?
[04:28] <Evanlec> hi_hello_nice, mIRC is Terrible in my opinion, use x-chat
[04:28] <erUSUL> Evanlec: i use vanilla kernels myself (just built and run 2.6.23 final ;))
[04:28] <Pici> cy_`: cpuburn
[04:29] <dr3w2morow> waltzing along: u mean i need to install and unistall firefox?
[04:29] <John117> cy_` Sandra by Sysoft is good.  I don't know if they have a Linux version though.
[04:29] <Spec>  Pici: how do i disable the screensaver per user?
[04:29] <addos> what is the easiest way to get ALL the source of a particular ubuntu release?
[04:29] <Evanlec> erUSUL, by vanilla you mean without any patches (ubuntu or otherwise) ?
[04:29] <WaltzingAlong> dr3w2morow: no just close firefox then start it again.
[04:29] <Pici> Spec: Theres probably a gconf key.
[04:29] <Spec> Pici: crap
[04:29] <Kenny3> how can i change to kde in ubuntu studio?
[04:29] <WaltzingAlong> Evanlec: that is what erUSUL should mean
[04:29] <dr3w2morow> waltzingalong: i do but youtube still wont work?
[04:29] <cy_`> thanks Pici and John117
[04:29] <Ballena> how do I format an USB-stick in ubuntu?
[04:29] <Ballena> usb-drive*
[04:29] <kst> can someone tell me how you make descriptions of desktop icons not make a linebreak, at least not stupid linebreaks (in the middle of a word, or 1 letter alone in next line)?
[04:30] <Evanlec> Ballena, use gnome partition manager
[04:30] <cy_`> Pici,  Warning: The goal has been to maximize heat production from the CPU, putting stress on the CPU itself, cooling system, motherboard. This may cause data loss (filesystem corruption) and possibly permanent
[04:30] <cy_`>  damage to electronic components. Use at your own risk. # sounds dangerous ;\
[04:30] <John117>  Update:  I'm attempting the installation again in Safe Graphics Mode.  We'll see if that works.  If not, i'm going to Worst Buy to get some more blank CDs..  Then i try the alternat CD install.
[04:30] <Pici> cy_`: sounds like a good stress-test tool to me
[04:30] <ripper> hi all, i'm having problem with X Server trying to run nvidia driver for geforce go 7400
[04:30] <WaltzingAlong> dr3w2morow: which version does this command show? aptitude show flashplugin-nonfree | grep Version
[04:30] <erUSUL> Evanlec: the one from kernel.org... no patches (i compile the nvidia module and my wifi card driver though)
[04:30] <Ballena> Evanlec: ok. But it dosent show up in gparted :/
[04:31] <Evanlec> Pici, he wants a benchmark tool tho, not a burn-in
[04:31] <Pici> Evanlec: ah
[04:31] <ripper> i installed the nvidia driver using Envy, and when i reboot X server crashed
[04:31] <WaltzingAlong> !envy
[04:31] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[04:31] <Evanlec> erUSUL, interesting, and why do you do it that way im curious
[04:31] <dr3w2morow> waltzingalong: u mean what version in the sunaptic manager?
[04:31] <Evanlec> Ballena, it should....if it doesnt something may be wrong
[04:31] <WaltzingAlong> dr3w2morow: could be there too. otherwise open a vterminal, type (paste) those commands
[04:31] <Ballena> Evanlec: ok
[04:32] <dr3w2morow> Waltzingalong: what commands? sorry new to this loinux
[04:32] <ripper> can someone please help me with this? i can no longer enable desktop effects...i'm running ubuntu feisty fawn
[04:32] <erUSUL> Evanlec: i like to build my own kernels (done so from my early days in linux) and report problems ...
[04:33] <addos> is there a package on the repository of all the source for a ubuntu distribution?
[04:33] <ripper> can someone help with my above problem please
[04:33] <Evanlec> erUSUL, well thats what i want to do as well, but im confused as to whether i should install any patches or not
[04:33] <erUSUL> !envy | ripper
[04:33] <ubotu> ripper: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[04:33] <Evanlec> !compiz | ripper
[04:33] <ubotu> ripper: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:34] <flokuehn> hi all
[04:34] <Evanlec> addos, ALL the source? what you're asking for would be immense in proportion
[04:34] <erUSUL> Evanlec: depends on the hardware you got mainly
[04:34] <genii> ripper: You able to get into X at all?
[04:34] <pierre__> someone can help me with acpi
[04:34] <addos> Evanlec: how so?
[04:34] <flokuehn> i want to create an iso file of a cd
[04:34] <HentaiSushi> hello i am trying to install 7.04 ... again.  im having trouble with the partitioning
[04:34] <flokuehn> what application can do this
[04:34] <addos> Evanlec: I routinely build FreeBSD, why can't I rebuild Ubuntu from source?
[04:34] <Evanlec> addos, Ubuntu is a distribution of linux, which means it uses a linux kernel (the core) and a set of software that works together, so im not sure what you're asking
[04:35] <nrdb> flokuehn: you can use the command 'dd'
[04:35] <_Andrew> addos: I think all the source code is 100 gig compressed
[04:35] <addos> interesting
[04:35] <flokuehn> nrdb: thank you
[04:35] <Evanlec> addos, do you mean the linux kernel? i think that must be what you mean
[04:35] <ripper> genii: no i can't get into X at all, unless i change the Driver "nv" in xorg.conf, basically as long as i don't use "nvidia" as the Driver in xorg.conf, i can get into X
[04:35] <addos> no
[04:35] <genii> flokuehn: Simplest is from a terminal. Just do:   sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom ~/filename.iso
[04:35] <addos> I mean, the source for all the userland and kernel
[04:35] <addos> aka, the whole distribution
[04:35] <senhor> someone help-me
[04:35] <Evanlec> addos, well like _Andrew said, 100 gig compressed sounds about right...you got a fat pipe? lol
[04:35] <nrdb> flokuehn: I use "dd if=/dev/hdc of=x.iso"
[04:35] <addos> ha
[04:36] <erUSUL> !anyone | senhor
[04:36] <ubotu> senhor: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:36] <moppit> ripper:Are you using the updated NVIDIA drivers or NVIDIA-LEGACY drivers if you have an older card?
[04:36] <ripper> genii: it was fine all these while, until i tried to install the latest nvidia driver 100.14.19, and failed to do so, and i tried to revert, and failed miserably
[04:36] <genii> ripper: OK, use something that works for now, nv is fine. then rerun restricted-manager ad configure again from there
[04:36] <addos> that is so odd, Linux distribs used to provide cds with the source for the distribution
[04:36] <flokuehn> genii: thank you
[04:36] <afief> Does anybody know about a game similar to Flags(minesweeper multiplayer) in MSN Messenger?
[04:36] <RickH> Greetings.  Is there a way I can disable disk read/write caching on a particular volume?
[04:36] <Evanlec> erUSUL, okay so i'd want to compile in the latest nvidia driver and my wifi driver (RT2500), anything else?
[04:37] <moppit> RickH Isn't that something you do from BIOS?
[04:37] <ripper> moppit: i believe i'm using nvidia driver 100.14.11, it's the version before the current latest version, my nvidia card is geforce go 7400
[04:37] <Evanlec> addos, Ubuntu is HUGE compared to older linux distros
[04:37] <genii> flokuehn: I erred with syntax, should be of=~/filename.iso   in the command i gave earlier
[04:37] <RickH> moppit:  Nope, OS specific.
[04:37] <erUSUL> Evanlec: that's exactly the two drivers i build into my kernels XD
[04:37] <marko-_-> I wanna play this game http://www.highgrow.us/download.php :P i downloaded the setup .exe and runed it through wine it installed everthing fine and the icon from the game is on my desktop but it won't launch
[04:37] <Evanlec> erUSUL, and so thats all i would need you suspect?
[04:38] <erUSUL> Evanlec: ralink rt2500 legacy (rt2x00 serialmonkey ) and nvidia (from nvidia.com)
[04:38] <Evanlec> erUSUL, the rt2500 driver? nice...yea im using a broadcom 802.11g card
[04:38] <Pici> marko-_-: support applications in wine is handled in #winehq, they will be able to help you better than we can.
[04:38] <marko-_-> k
[04:38] <marko-_-> thanks
[04:38] <Kenny3> can i change to KDE on ubuntu studio?
[04:38] <ripper> genii: you mean enable the nvidia driver through restricted driver manager? and then do a restart?
[04:39] <erUSUL> Evanlec: you have 2 wifi cards? rt2500 and broadcom?
[04:39] <RickH> When does Gibbon come out?
[04:39] <Pici> RickH: ~18th
[04:39] <genii> ripper: Yes
[04:39] <RickH> Pici:  Thx.
[04:39] <Evanlec> erUSUL, no no, its a Broadcom card with the rt2500 chipset
[04:39] <flokuehn> genii: where did get this knowledge about dd ? Iam looking at the manpage and i cant find anything about the thins you told me to do
[04:39] <ripper> moppit: envy installation of nvidia driver shows that i'm using nvidia-glx-new
[04:39] <Evanlec> erUSUL, well Broadcom i think just being the brand name on the box
[04:39] <John117> Argh...  It hung at 73% this time. :)   i'll go get some more CDs and try again.  Thanks for the help everybody.  Keep up this great community and Ubuntu will take over the world. :)
[04:39] <Symmetria> heh ubuntu is now our second largest mirror on our mirror servers
[04:40] <Evanlec> erUSUL, but it is a RT2500 im sure of that (thats the chipset right?)
[04:40] <ripper> genii: all right, fingers crossed, i'll try that now, would come back here again regardless if it works
[04:40] <erUSUL> Evanlec: i see mine is  Network controller: RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01) (from lspci)
[04:40] <Symmetria> and the largest of which is actually not an operating system distribution at all
[04:40] <Evanlec> erUSUL, thats exactly what my lspci says too
[04:40] <tom_> I have made my  Mac Book Pro a dual boot system, but I want to share a HFS+ partition. In kubuntu, it says 'hal-storage-fixed-mount-refused uid 1000'. How do I fix?
[04:40] <genii> flokuehn: dd is not originally for making a cd copy, it is for making a bit-by-bit exact copy of a hard drive or similar. So it works anyhow this method for an iso file from a cd.
[04:40] <Symmetria> heh, we do 4 times the amount of ubuntu traffic than any other linux distro at the moment actually
[04:40] <nrdb> Symmetria: what is the largest ?
[04:40] <flokuehn> genii: ok
[04:40] <Symmetria> nrdb firefox updates
[04:40] <Symmetria> by far
[04:41] <Symmetria> nrdb heh firefox averages 50 to 60 mbit/second 24 hours a day 7 days a week, and peaks at 150mbit/second on releases
[04:41] <Evanlec> Symmetria, what site are you representing?
[04:41] <Symmetria> mirror.ac.za
[04:41] <stinger05> hi there
[04:41] <Exonimus> hello
[04:41] <Symmetria> za.releases.ubuntu.com/za.archive.ubuntu.com specifically
[04:41] <nrdb> Symmetria: wow
[04:41] <HentaiSushi> how do i set up partitions so i can install ubuntu manually?
[04:41] <Evanlec> Symmetria, firefox downloads? how about ubuntu iso downloads?
[04:41] <Symmetria> ubuntu currently averages 35 to 40mbit/second
[04:41] <senhor> someone help me
[04:41] <Evanlec> 24/7 ?
[04:41] <Symmetria> evan we push 35 to 40 in normal times when its not release
[04:41] <Symmetria> yeah
[04:41] <Evanlec> haha
[04:42] <stinger05> is there a way to install packages for ubuntu "offline"?
[04:42] <Evanlec> nice
[04:42] <Symmetria> during release times it gets insane, coupla hundred megabit
[04:42] <Suqare_Root> where can I find a proxy list for irc?? I've found many but all proxies fail, rejected / closed or unable
[04:42] <Vom> I would need help installin' fglrx, done everythin' like BinaryDriverHowto/ATI tells me to, but still its whinin' of my DRI.
[04:42] <Pici> !offtopic | Suqare_Root Symmetria
[04:43] <ubotu> Suqare_Root Symmetria: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:43] <Evanlec> Symmetria, can i get a shell account? :) :)
[04:43] <stinger05> is there a way to install packages for ubuntu "offline"?
[04:43] <MasterShrek> stinger05, if you have the cd, or the pacakges already
[04:44] <Pici> stinger05: Theres aptoncd and .deb packages.
[04:44] <sniperjam> i sent my laptop off to get its damaged screen replaced, and now the titlebad of windows are MASSIVE... any ideas? (it is like that on live cds too)
[04:44] <Evanlec> erUSUL, do you have a guide or something you follow when compiling your kernel? do you think this is a good one to start with?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel
[04:44] <Evanlec> stinger05, you can download the ubuntu dvd, has a bunch more packages, for offline install
[04:45] <stinger05> what is aptoncd for then ?
[04:45] <erUSUL> !kernel | Evanlec
[04:45] <ubotu> Evanlec: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[04:45] <Evanlec> !stages
[04:45] <stinger05> ah ok i got the idea:)
[04:45] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Kernel gets updated in stages.  If you have the updated kernel, but do not have the corresponding restricted modules, you may be leaving yourself with no X when you reboot.  If you have compiled binary versions of your video driver, eg from the nVidia site, you will need to recompile them for the new kernel.  This is normal, and not a bug.
[04:45] <sergio_> Hola ...hay alguien aqui??
[04:46] <ripper> genii: are you there?
[04:46] <erUSUL> Evanlec: i do not use the "debian way" i use the manual way just make; make install; make modules_install... and mkinitramfs
[04:46] <stinger05> but is there anyway to back-up the packages using aptoncd in "windows xp"
[04:46] <genii> ripper: yup
[04:46] <ripper> genii: enabling nvidia through restricted driver manager did not work, X server crashed as well
[04:46] <Vom> So - anyone having the similar problem? Meaning DRI not workin' with ATi.
[04:46] <Pici> !es | sergio_
[04:46] <ubotu> sergio_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:46] <Evanlec> erUSUL, initramfs what do u do that for?
[04:46] <sniperjam> any ideas about my massive titles in windows guys? (not ms windows)
[04:46] <ripper> genii: it changed "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf, i had to manually change it back to "nv" to get back in here
[04:46] <erUSUL> Evanlec: to make the /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
[04:47] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, that loads modules right away when u choose your kernel so things like mounting your root partition work before modules for it would be loaded
[04:47] <Evanlec> erUSUL, oh thats part of the normal process then..gotcha
[04:47] <ripper> genii: and by the way, enabling the restricted driver uninstalled my nvidial-glx-new and replaced with nvidia-glx
[04:47] <genii> ripper: When you hit gdm did it give a series of config panels?
[04:47] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i see, isnt it possible to not use initrd?
[04:47] <ripper> genii: you mean now?
[04:48] <MasterShrek> yes it is Evanlec if you compile things directly into the kernel
[04:48] <stib>  sniperjam: look for the DPI setting, that's what's causing it.. try /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:48] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, is there any implicit advantage in doing that?
[04:48] <genii> ripper: no, i mean the first time after you rebooted after switching to restricted driver from nv
[04:49] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, just to not have to make an initrd, i generally try to do that because its just one last step you have to do when compiling a kernel
[04:49] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, you try to avoid making an initrd?
[04:49] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, yes, as much as possible
[04:49] <ripper> genii: after i rebooted after switching to restricted driver, i can't even get into X. the X server error screen shown and i ended up in the terminal
[04:50] <stinger05> is there anyway to back-up the packages using aptoncd in "windows xp"? or do i have to do that via linux ? ?
[04:50] <r2r4> hello. i have 2 eth cards on my computer,VIA XXXX and 8139. ethtool shows VIA XXXX is using the driver of 8139, and the 8139 card is using the driver of VIA. how to fix it?
[04:50] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, I used to compile kernels way back on redhat 7 i believe, am interested in doing it here on ubuntu, not because im a developer by any means, but just wanted to tweak and make a lean & fast kernel
[04:51] <genii> ripper: What was the error message/code?
[04:51] <MasterShrek> me to Evanlec im working on it right now, ive never compiled one in ubuntu tho, just in slack and gentoo, but it should be the same, i dont think an initrd is required, it never was in slack
[04:52] <Stefan__> Hi guys, can someone help me please with this mysql problem: mysql don't start, ERROR 2002 appears every time :-( what to do to fix it?
[04:52] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, just use a config from /boot and make sure to do a 'make oldconfig' first
[04:52] <MasterShrek> Stefan__, do you konw what error 2002 is?
[04:52] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, are you compiling a Ubuntu kernel or a stock kernel from kernel.org
[04:52] <Exonimus> guys, maybe someone can help me. I've got this really old philips vesta webcam, and I've used it as a mircrophone for years. Is this possible in ubuntu? I have no clue where to find the correct drivers..
[04:52] <ripper> genii: it was pretty long, can't remember everything from it, it asked me whether i want to see the full error message with <Yes> and <No> options
[04:53] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, a vanilla kernel from kernel.org
[04:53] <MasterShrek> 2.6.23 is out :)
[04:53] <Stefan__> MasterShrek, yes i believe it says that there is no mysql.sock or the wrong rights on the mysql.sock
[04:53] <MasterShrek> Stefan__, are you trying to start it as a user?
[04:53] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, im guessing the vanilla kernel is a lot leaner than the ubuntu one
[04:53] <Klaus___> hi all
[04:54] <Stefan__> @MasterShrek yes with sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[04:54] <genii> ripper: OK. Have you tried method described here yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[04:54] <ch3ckm8e> Stefan_ start mysql under the user you installed it with or root
[04:54] <Klaus___> can anyone say me how  i partition my 10 gbyte hd to install x-ubuntu? (manual)
[04:54] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, is there any pitfalls i should watch out for when trying to do this myself?
[04:54] <Stefan__> But when i use sudo isnt that like the root user start it?!?! And when not, how can i change to mysql/root user?!
[04:54] <MasterShrek> not too much Evanlec, the ubuntu kernel is just a patched vanilla kernel, although i dont know how many patches they put in, i dont think its any 'bigger' persay, but the ubuntu kernel does contain alot of modules that you wouldnt use
[04:55] <musashi> i am at the prepare partitions screen about install ubuntu.  What partitions do i need to make to install it?
[04:55] <dmesg> hi , is posible to change the ubuntu logo where it says aplications?
[04:55] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, you shouldnt have any problems, just dont overwrite your other kernel images and boot options for them
[04:55] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, right, well it has a lot of added hardware support, being those modules rite?
[04:55] <ripper> genii: actually, i should be using nvidia-glx-new instead of nvidia-glx right?
[04:56] <ch3ckm8e> Stefan_ have u tried using root?
[04:56] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, yes, its compiled for almost all kinds of hardware, obviously you dont have a need for all of them, but they are mostly modules, its not that the actual kernel image is bloated
[04:56] <ch3ckm8e> Stefan_ sudo is not root
[04:56] <MTecknology> Anybody in here that can change the topic for #ubuntu+1 ?
[04:56] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, oh i see
[04:56] <WaltzingAlong> ripper: nvidia-glx-new provides nvidia-glx
[04:56] <Stefan__> @ch3ckm8e can i make "su" and then /etc/init.d/mysql start?
[04:57] <genii> ripper: The restricted-manager should have properly detected which was correct, so I suspect whichever one it (unsuccessfully) tried
[04:57] <ch3ckm8e> Stefan_: in terminal do "su -" then "/etc/init.d/mysql start"
[04:57] <ch3ckm8e> Stefan_: if that doesn't work reinstall sql under root
[04:57] <ch3ckm8e> Stefan_: not sudo
[04:57] <WaltzingAlong> Klaus___: with just 10GB i may leave it as one big partition / and a swap; always could give some room to /boot or /home
[04:57] <Pici> Stefan__: ch3ckm8e: sudo -i  is prefered instead of su -
[04:57] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, do you have a link to a howto for compiling a linux kernel source ?
[04:58] <ripper> genii: what i noticed is that, if i install the nvidia driver with Envy, then nvidia-glx-new is used, but with restricted driver, then nvidia-glx-new would be uninstalled replaced with nvidia-glx
[04:58] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i think so lemme check...
[04:58] <Evanlec> ripper, thats because the restricted driver is older
[04:59] <Evanlec> ripper, so use the newer one if you want best performance
[04:59] <stephan_> ey
[04:59] <stephan_> vuile sletten
[04:59] <Stefan__> @ch3ckm8e it doenst work :-(( when i reinstall it will all my databases be deleted or?
[04:59] <ripper> Evanlec: in other words, install nvidia driver with Envy? then i'm back to square one, when Driver is set to "nvidia" in xorg.conf, my X server fails
[05:00] <Pici> !envy
[05:00] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[05:00] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i dont really have a link for it i guess, i just kinda know how to do it lol
[05:00] <genii> ripper: Well, i trust restricted-manager more than envy. Sorry for lag, at work and AFK occasionally here
[05:00] <musashi> MasterShrek:  i am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, i am at the prepare partition screen, what partitions to i have to make to install ubuntu?
[05:00] <Klaus___> could somebody help me to partition my 10 gb hd for xubuntu?
[05:01] <kst> !ask | Klaus___
[05:01] <ubotu> Klaus___: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:01] <MasterShrek> musashi, are you dual booting with windows?
[05:01] <genii> ripper: Anyhow, you may want to try the method at end of the link where it described how to return to restricted-manager method from binary insertion way
[05:01] <Evanlec> ripper, like pici said...envy is hit or miss, for me it worked no sweat...for some its disastrous
[05:01] <MasterShrek> !partition
[05:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:01] <ripper> genii: that's all right genii, glad that you are trying to help...i think i'm going to try out the steps in the website you shown me, by the way, are these steps irrelevant to what i had currently defined in xorg.conf?
[05:01] <musashi> MasterShrek:  yes two versions of windows, i just need to figure out which partitions i have to specify on the unallocated space for ubuntu
[05:01] <Klaus___> Mastershrek: could you help me to partition my 10 gb hd for xubuntu?
[05:02] <kst> Klaus___ what do you wanna know?
[05:02] <MasterShrek> Klaus___, just let the installer automatically do it, first option when it asks
[05:02] <MasterShrek> musashi, is there a choice just to use the free space?
[05:02] <genii> ripper: So long as you have some workable xorg.conf it can begin with i think you will be fine to go.
[05:02] <ripper> Evanlec: it worked beautifully for me before, but yesterday i was trying out the new compiz-fusion and the latest nvidia driver, and i ended up like this, unable to revert
[05:02] <Klaus___> Mastershrek: the installer say every time... error...
[05:02] <Klaus___> couldnt partition ext3
[05:03] <musashi> MasterShrek: ahh there is one that says use the free space but i was thinking it meant ALL the free space, so that means unallocated space?
[05:03] <ripper> genii: all right, good to know that, i'll give it a shot and let you know what turns out
[05:03] <Klaus___> now i will do it maual
[05:03] <Klaus___> manual
[05:03] <MasterShrek> musashi, yes, it means all the space that isnt already in use
[05:03] <Nido> hello
[05:03] <genii> ripper: I will be away for a few minutes, but returning :)
[05:03] <musashi> MasterShrek:  hmm.. but i have two globs of unallocated space i was hoping to use together for ubuntu. would it just be easier to use the larger one?
[05:03] <Warmedal_> I have installed ubuntu just a sec ago, And now I get "Error 21" when loading Grub.. Please help
[05:04] <ripper> genii: no problem, but in case i don't catch again in time, thanks a lot for helping :)
[05:04] <Wips> I don't think my Microphone is working >.< Are there any settings I can play with?
[05:04] <Exonimus> guys, can anyone help me with my question? I'm trying to get an old philips vesta webcam working
[05:04] <Mophead> Anyone know an ubuntu command to keep two year olds from the powerstrip?
[05:05] <Pici> Mophead: duct tape?
[05:05] <MasterShrek> musashi, you can use the other one for your /home directory if you want, but how big is the bigger one?
[05:06] <MasterShrek> musashi, you can also use the smaller one as swap, but its prolly kinda big for that, which isnt bad, just kinda wasted space
[05:06] <o00w> Pici: thanks it works for me
[05:06] <musashi> MasterShrek:  the small one is about 6 GB and the large one 20 GB
[05:06] <Warmedal_> I have installed ubuntu just a sec ago, And now I get "Error 21" when loading Grub.. Please help
[05:06] <WaltzingAlong> Warmedal_: ask google, she knows
[05:07] <MasterShrek> musashi, i would just use the big one as your install, and leave the 6 gig for a transfer space between windows/linux, format it as fat32 (vfat)
[05:07] <Mophead> exonumus: Try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-197202.html see if that helps.. Few people have had that prob..
[05:07] <Klaus___> MasterShrek: can you help me?
[05:07] <musashi> MasterShrek:  o.o so i should chose the use largest continuous free space to install ubuntu on the 20 gb unallocated?
[05:08] <musashi> MasterShrek:  then format the 6 gb as swap while in linux?
[05:08] <Hilikus> hey guys
[05:08] <WaltzingAlong> hey gals
[05:09] <Hilikus> how do i make anacron take care of my user crontabs?? they are stored in /var/spool/cron   but anacron only executed /etc/cron.*
[05:09] <musashi> MasterShrek:  also if i use the automatically use unallocated space thing, it will still let me choose not to install grub on the mbr, right?
[05:09] <MasterShrek> musashi, let the installer make the swap partition, prolyl use a gig or so out of the 20 gig, and then when its done installing come back here and ask how to format that 6 gig as vfat so windows and linux can read and write to it
[05:09] <MasterShrek> i think so musashi
[05:10] <musashi> MasterShrek: ok thanks. even if it does do the grub mbr thing ill just restore the windows one and reset the easybcd
[05:11] <MasterShrek> musashi, you should use grub to boot your windows partitions
[05:12] <atlfalcons866> what filesystem should i use?
[05:12] <musashi> MasterShrek:  meh i would rather use what i know for now.  that way if i dont like linux all i have to do is wipe that partition in windows and it wont mess anything up
[05:12] <atlfalcons866> does anyone use jfs
[05:12] <Pici> atlfalcons866: ext3
[05:12] <millhouse> hey
[05:12] <atlfalcons866> Pici: is ext3 the fastest file system
[05:13] <dperry> hey all
[05:13] <MasterShrek> musashi, i dont think u can boot linux from a windows boot loader, but more power to ya
[05:13] <musashi> MasterShrek:  =o there is an option to do it maybe i misread :x
[05:13] <Pici> atlfalcons866: Its the default on Ubuntu and the most popular on Linux
[05:13] <musashi> MasterShrek:  i should probably check that first thanks for the help
[05:13] <MasterShrek> im almost certain there is not musashi, but im not 100%
[05:13] <Juhaz> atlfalcons866, there is nothing that is fastest or best for everything. it depends on your workload, ext3 is reasonable compromise for general usage
[05:13] <Wikzo> I got some problems about my Print Screen-shot buttom. Some days ago I removed Compiz Fusion from Ubuntu 7.04, and now when I am using the PrtSc-buttom I get an error message: "Der opstod en fejl ved krsel af "/usr/share/compiz/take-screenshot.sh": Fejl under krsel af underprocessen "/usr/share/compiz/take-screenshot.sh" (No such file or directory)." How do I get the standard "Take Screenshot"program to use the PrtSc-buttom on my keyboard?
[05:13] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, im compiling it now :)
[05:14] <musashi> MasterShrek: well thats not good
[05:14] <atlfalcons866> ok
[05:14] <atlfalcons866> i used xfs and had bad luck
[05:14] <musashi> MasterShrek:  if it fails ill just wipe the partition and use grub
[05:14] <MasterShrek> musashi, if you decide to get rid of linux, u can just boot back into a windows install cd, hit r to repair and type fixmbr
[05:14] <ripper> quit
[05:14] <dperry> i just compiled and installed the latest xine-lib (after uninstalling the installed libxine1 package), and when I go to install kaffeine and kaffeine-xine, it tries to install the libxine1 from the package archive
[05:15] <musashi> MasterShrek: will do if it comes to that
[05:15] <musashi> MasterShrek: im off to try
[05:15] <dperry> how would I get it to install just kaffeine and kaffeine-xine without installing the libxine1 package
[05:15] <MasterShrek> good luck musashi =D
[05:15] <dperry> since i already have it installed from source
[05:15] <musashi> thanks :)
[05:15] <MasterShrek> dperry, why did you install it from source?
[05:15] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, compiling 2.6.23 vanilla?
[05:15] <mr_marvin> is fat32 most compatible file system for use under both linux and windows?
[05:16] <MasterShrek> yes Evanlec, i wish i knew what my inird was doing tho, so i made sure to build the right modules into the kernel
[05:16] <Evanlec> mr_marvin, yes i spose but linux can write to ntfs no problem nowadays
[05:16] <MasterShrek> mr_marvin, natively yes
[05:16] <nrdb> mr_marvin: I think so, but the support NTFS is growing.
[05:17] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, so far im planning to put in the latest nvidia driver and the RT2500 driver (my wifi card)
[05:17] <mr_marvin> what would you recommend? should i format my data dh as htfs/fat32/ext3?
[05:17] <wmorse> I am upgrading Eclipse. My original install was through the Synaptic Package Manager. Now I want to replace that with something I downloaded myself. How does the package manager decide where to put things like eclipse, and what would be a smart way to replace the version I have with this new one? I have a working copy of the new software under my regular user home folder.
[05:17] <jimcooncat> mr_marvin: have heard good things about ext2 windows driver so you can use ext3 partition
[05:17] <dperry> MasterShrek: I couldn't get the video to display right
[05:17] <dperry> from dvb and any video file, i would get only a green screen
[05:17] <mr_marvin> i also need good support for +10 GB files
[05:17] <dperry> with some purple artifacts on it
[05:17] <asininity> Hi guys, I got a random question. I'm currently dual booting with vista on a laptop that has a recovery partition, not that I'm going too but if I decided to ditch linux how would I fix the mbr to be able to boot the recovery partition again as grub has taken over. Cheers.
[05:17] <MasterShrek> !medibuntu | dperry
[05:17] <ubotu> dperry: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:17] <ibara> mr_marvin don't use fat32 then
[05:17] <benzon> Omg - just found out that ATI x300 is able to run on Intel drivers
[05:18] <mr_marvin> ibara: noted. thaks.
[05:19] <nucco> hey, need a lil help here. I know this is the wrong channel. where do I find gftp's svn repository?
[05:19] <dperry> MasterShrek: doesn't that contain an older version of kaffeine than is in the gutsy repository?
[05:19] <dperry> 0.8.3, gutsy has 0.8.5
[05:19] <MasterShrek> dperry, maybe, i didnt know you were using gutsy
[05:19] <dperry> sorry, should've said that first
[05:20] <MasterShrek> well, i dont think that compiling from source is going to help so much, did you install all the gstreamer libraries? including the bad and ugly ones?
[05:20] <dperry> yep, everything
[05:21] <HentaiSushi> MastereShrek: you are quite sure using the largest continuous free space will only use unallocated space, right?
[05:21] <MasterShrek> dperry, i think if u run checkinstall in the source directory of that lib u compiled, apt should catch it as being installed
[05:21] <dperry> okay, lemme test that out
[05:22] <MasterShrek> HentaiSushi, how big does it say your largest continuous free space is? is it equal to the size of your unallocated space?
[05:22] <mr_marvin> do you think that "write" support for ntfs is ok nowdays?
[05:22] <Matic`Makovec> Err...hey there. Any ideas about this thingie? http://pastebin.com/m43f16e41 (removing mysql-server doesn't help really)
[05:22] <musashi> MasterShrek: it doesnt give me an amount
[05:22] <MasterShrek> mr_marvin, yes its pretty good
[05:23] <jaczz> #macrumors
[05:23] <dperry> mr_marvin: I use it all the time, haven't had any problems.
[05:23] <MasterShrek> musashi, it should be fine
[05:23] <mr_marvin> hm... i'll think i'll use ntfs then...
[05:23] <MasterShrek> !ntfs-3g | mr_marvin
[05:23] <ubotu> mr_marvin: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:24] <nucco> !windows | paul
[05:24] <ubotu> paul: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:24] <nucco> !windows | paulowsky
[05:24] <ubotu> paulowsky: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:24] <musashi> MasterShrek: it just says that SCSI1 (0,0,0)(sda) has been changed and that partition #3 of SCSI1 is going to be ext3 and partitoin #6 is going to be swap
[05:24] <murlidhar> mr_marvin: just sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g && ntfs-config
[05:24] <MasterShrek> musashi, does that seem right to you? im obviously not looking at your screen and i dont know anything about your partition scheme
[05:25] <genii> nucco: I'm not sure an svn for gftp exists. However, a cvs site is listed from here: http://gftp.seul.org/readme.html
[05:25] <musashi> MasterShrek: well SCSI1 is my main hard drive so that just means its adding those partitions to it, right? not deleting anything?
[05:25] <nucco> genii: I tried that. didn't work, so I thought maybe they migrated as well
[05:26] <Bo^Dick> hi
[05:26] <dperry> MasterShrek: That did make it show up in my package database, however it is not registering as the same thing.
[05:26] <MasterShrek> im guessing its right musashi
[05:26] <musashi> MasterShrek: it would be easier to do manual than hope all my stuff isnt destroyed
[05:26] <paulowsky> !ubuntu | nucco
[05:26] <Hilikus> i used gnome-schedule to schedule some jobs. but those jobs dont get executed if the computer was off at that time, how do i fix that?
[05:26] <MasterShrek> dperry, is it the same thing? lol
[05:26] <ubotu> nucco: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[05:26] <mr_marvin> murlidhar: i get error ntfs-config (command not found)?
[05:26] <dperry> MasterShrek: I got the xine-lib sources by doing apt-get source  libxine1
[05:26] <Bo^Dick> is it possible to write to an ntfs partition from ubuntu?
[05:27] <dperry> and it produced a directory xine-lib
[05:27] <nucco> Bo^Dick: install ntfs-3g
[05:27] <dperry> it's showing up as xine-lib in the directory, and not libxine1
[05:27] <nucco> and ntfs-config
[05:27] <murlidhar> mr_marvin: are u using feisty?
[05:27] <mr_marvin> sorry. got it :) ntfs-config is a package :)
[05:28] <Bo^Dick> nucco: thanks
[05:28] <musashi> MasterShrek: i have got to do manual. its too much, hoping that nothing is lost
[05:28] <dperry> I got it
[05:28] <mr_marvin> murlidhar: all ok. i have to set up groups now?
[05:28] <dperry> During checkinstall I can change the name of the package
[05:28] <MasterShrek> i didnt not know that dperry, cool
[05:28] <dperry> changing it to libxine1 should (theoretically, reinstalling now) get it to work
[05:29] <murlidhar> mr_marvin: applications>system tools
[05:29] <genii> nucco: svn html site: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gftp/
[05:29] <dperry> MasterShrek: thanks a lot for the help
[05:29] <MasterShrek> np
[05:29] <o00w> what screensaver is included with 7.04 xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver?
[05:29] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, how long on the kernel compile you estimate?
[05:29] <nucco> genii: thanks
[05:29] <musashi> MasterShrek: do i only need a /ext3 and a swap to install ubuntu?
[05:29] <genii> nucco: np
[05:30] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, forever prolly lol, i didnt uncheck most of the modules, so its compiling almost all of them, but i wanna get a kernel running before i start trimming it down
[05:30] <MasterShrek> yes musashi
[05:30] <geirha> Wikzo: I would try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-utils, gnome-screenshot is part of that package, and reconfiguring the package might make it reregister itself as the screenshooter, though where the screenshot-app is configured, I don't know
[05:30] <mr_marvin> errr... how can i start ntfs-config (or any other tool) while logged as admin?
[05:30] <Bo^Dick> nucco: maybe i should've stated that i already have them mounted as read-only, here's my fstab file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40165/
[05:30] <musashi> MasterShrek: i dont have to specify /home or w/e?
[05:30] <nucco> Bo^Dick: install ntfs-config.
[05:30] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, Oh, i heard 3-4 hours was average...lol
[05:30] <mr_marvin> *while logged as user, sorry
[05:30] <MasterShrek> nope musashi
[05:30] <murlidhar> mr_marvin: application>system tools
[05:30] <nucco> Bo^Dick: it's a GUI for remounting them read-write. simple to use.
[05:31] <Bo^Dick> nucco: ah, thanks
[05:31] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i doubt 3-4 hrs, im running dualcore turion64's it shouldnt take THAT long lol
[05:31] <Wikzo> geirha: Ok. What else will it do? I don't want to mess around with my GNOME desktop
[05:31] <henry> hi
[05:31] <nucco> genii: what url do I use for checkout? this: " svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gtfp trunk gftp" isn't working
[05:31] <mr_marvin> murlidhar: ok, but is it possible to run it while logged as user? some console commnd?
[05:31] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, lol yeah...im runnin a pentiumD @ 3.4ghz
[05:32] <henry> what are you on about
[05:32] <musashi> MasterShrek: ok then, the swap is for going between operating systems, so i can just use the entire 6gb for it, and format it as fat32, or do i need a swap just for the ubuntu install?
[05:32] <henry> ?
[05:32] <nucco> musashi: swap for using between operating systems?
[05:32] <MasterShrek> musashi, you need a swap partition for the ubuntu install, should be about the amount of ram you have, its like the windows paging file
[05:32] <Elite> Hi people.
[05:32] <MasterShrek> nucco, no
[05:32] <Bo^Dick> does it look better to mount the ms windows partition to /media/windows rather than just /windows?
[05:32] <mr_marvin> sorry... <blushing> forgot to type "sudo ntfs-config"
[05:32] <murlidhar> mr_marvin: i dunno u can try
[05:33] <Elite> Wonder if you can help me guys.
[05:33] <musashi> MasterShrek: ok then i will use 1 gb for the swap in creating now and creat one with the rest of teh unallocated space later.  that will work, yes?
[05:33] <MasterShrek> musashi, what i was talking about before about fat32 is a partition that you can put files on that both linux and windows can read, then you wont have to set up ext2ifs in windows
[05:33] <Elite> Everytime i try to slam in my Blekin F5D7050 usb dongle, Feisty just crashes...? Any ideas?
[05:33] <Elite> Belkin*
[05:33] <MasterShrek> that should work musashi
[05:33] <musashi> MasterShrek: alright i got it then, making teh /ext3 and swap now then
[05:33] <MasterShrek> Elite, tried booting with it in?
[05:33] <geirha> Wikzo: not sure, it's just a guess from my part. There really should be an easier way imo, but none of the menu selections seem to have that config option
[05:34] <Elite> Yeah i have MasterShrek.
[05:34] <MasterShrek> does it still crash?
[05:34] <Elite> It is really slow when it boots with it in... like too slow.
[05:34] <sandip> my dcpp is nt working properly
[05:34] <MasterShrek> Elite, maybe you shouldnt "slam" it in lol
[05:34] <Wikzo> geirha: Hmmm ... thanks for the advice, but I think I'll wait to hear if there is any better way to do it :)
[05:34] <mr_marvin> murlidhar: thanks you. ntfs is up & running
[05:35] <Elite> Computer specs: Advent 7086, 512 Mb Ram, 40 Gb HD, 64 Mb internal gfx.
[05:35] <MasterShrek> Wikzo, what were you doing?
[05:35] <musashi> MasterShrek: alright i have a 1gb swap and a 20 gb /ext, thats all i need, correct?
[05:35] <Wikzo> I got some problems about my Print Screen-shot buttom. Some days ago I removed Compiz Fusion from Ubuntu 7.04, and now when I am using the PrtSc-buttom I get an error message: "Der opstod en fejl ved krsel af "/usr/share/compiz/take-screenshot.sh": Fejl under krsel af underprocessen "/usr/share/compiz/take-screenshot.sh" (No such file or directory)." How do I get the standard "Take Screenshot"program to use the PrtSc-buttom on my keyboard?
[05:35] <genii> nucco: Tried svn://svn.gnome.org/svn/gftp  ?
[05:35] <dperry> MasterShrek: Just finished installing that new libxine1 package, I was right; Changing the package name in checkinstall fulfills the dependency. Definitely going to write that one down for future reference :D
[05:35] <MasterShrek> sounds good musashi
[05:35] <murlidhar> mr_marvin: say thank you to the developer not me i have done nothing
[05:35] <musashi>  /ext3*
[05:35] <MasterShrek> musashi, it shold be mounted as /   but the filesystem type should be ext3
[05:36] <musashi> MasterShrek: yes it says type: ext3 mount point: /
[05:36] <noize> If Ubuntu randomly is locking up on me and freezing to the point i have to do a physical reboot, what log files should I be looking in to help find the problem?
[05:36] <MasterShrek> good musashi you shodl be in good shape
[05:36] <mr_marvin> murlidhar: well, when you use new os for just 3 days every tip is helpful...
[05:36] <musashi> MasterShrek: alright thanks for the help, and for the time you volunteer to do so ;)
[05:36] <nucco> genii: worked. thanks.
[05:36] <MasterShrek> noize, dmesg, syslog, try disabling different hardware one at a time and see if it doesnt do that, are you on a laptop?
[05:37] <MasterShrek> np musashi
[05:37] <mr_marvin> a silly quiestion: is it possible to keep permisssions from winxp parttition and have them work in ubuntu?
[05:37] <Elite> MasterShrek, It still crashes when I boot up... I meant i put the thing in on boot up but just crashes.
[05:37] <genii> nucco: enjoy
[05:37] <MasterShrek> no mr_marvin
[05:37] <incorrect> what is a good tool to use up bandwidth,  i want to test my network traffic alerts
[05:37] <Matic`Makovec> Err...hey there. Any ideas about this thingie? http://pastebin.com/m43f16e41 (removing mysql-server doesn't help really)
[05:37] <MasterShrek> Elite, is that belkin usb dongle supposed to be linux-friendly?
[05:37] <Elite> MasterShrek, Is anything Belkin make 'computer' friendly? Lol
[05:37] <noize> MasterShrek, nope it's a 64bit desktop. The only oddities are the firefox32bit, and a matrox qid card. dmesg and syslog, thanks.
[05:38] <kst> where do I find mouse.lst in ubuntu?
[05:38] <musashi> MasterShrek: urk. it also says the bootloader will be installed  on (hd0). what exactly does that mean? or is it specific to my pc?
[05:38] <bgrupe> Matic`Makovec: do you try to replace a dapper package with a feisty package manually?
[05:38] <a> i dunno
[05:39] <_emet_> !gutsy
[05:39] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[05:39] <MasterShrek> musashi, to your machine, you should be fine to just leave it as defaults
[05:39] <musashi> MasterShrek: wont that install it to the mbr though...?
[05:39] <MasterShrek> Matic`Makovec, just out of curiosity do you have build-essential installed? sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:39] <a> k
[05:40] <sandip> can anyone resolve my dcpp prob
[05:40] <MasterShrek> musashi, probably, it shoudl pick up your windows install(s) though, and if it doesnt its not hard to add them to grub, and if u decide to get rid of linux later you can always fixmbr from a windows install recovery console
[05:40] <Matic`Makovec> bgrupe, no. I was upgrading system a lil bit
[05:40] <Matic`Makovec> MasterShrek, well it was before I started with this upgrade of the system
[05:40] <genii> Matic`Makovec: running as root lecture aside. Perhaps try: (sudo normally) apt-get install -f mysql-server=>5.0_5.0.38-0ubuntu1
[05:41] <Matic`Makovec> I'm here on over Live CD now with mounted HD and chrooted..
[05:41] <mr_marvin> with what command cant i get list of users and uids?
[05:41] <musashi> MasterShrek: it also says migration assistant: windows vista/longhorn (loader) (/dev/sda1):. does that mean it sees windows vista?
[05:41] <bgrupe> Matic`Makovec: looks as though the update went terribly wrong... are other things broken?
[05:41] <Matic`Makovec> bgrupe, mysql-client was as well
[05:41] <Pici> mr_marvin: cat /etc/passwd
[05:41] <MasterShrek> musashi, yes, its asking if you want your usernames and bookmarks imported into ubuntu
[05:41] <Matic`Makovec> But I was able to remove it easily
[05:41] <Matic`Makovec> This is a though bastard though
[05:41] <kevlar_> Can't believe Konversation doesnt come with a server list
[05:41] <kevlar_> ugh
[05:41] <usr13> sandip, What is your question?
[05:42] <a> hi
[05:42] <a> hi
[05:42] <musashi> MasterShrek: i put the same username when it asked me who i was, will that mess anything up if its the same as my windows one?
[05:42] <Pici> !hi | a
[05:42] <ubotu> a: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:42] <gchase> hi there
[05:42] <MasterShrek> definately not musashi
[05:42] <Matic`Makovec> genii, err...this?
[05:42] <Matic`Makovec> root@ubuntu:/# LANGUAGE=en_US apt-get install -f mysql-server=>5.0_5.0.38-0ubuntu1
[05:42] <Matic`Makovec> E: Version '' for 'mysql-server' was not found
[05:42] <Matic`Makovec> root@ubuntu:/# LANGUAGE=en_US apt-get install -f mysql-server-5.0_5.0.38-0ubuntu1
[05:42] <Matic`Makovec> Reading package lists... Done
[05:42] <Matic`Makovec> Building dependency tree
[05:42] <Matic`Makovec> Reading state information... Done
[05:42] <Matic`Makovec> E: Couldn't find package mysql-server-5.0_5.0.38-0ubuntu1
[05:42] <Matic`Makovec> root@ubuntu:/#
[05:42] <musashi> MasterShrek: alright im going for it thanks again
[05:42] <Pici> !paste | Matic`Makovec
[05:42] <ubotu> Matic`Makovec: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:42] <MasterShrek> !paste | Matic`Makovec
[05:42] <kevlar_> How do you install grub on a particular hard drive....it installed it on the HD0 , I need it on HD2
[05:42] <sandip> i cant dnld from dcpp
[05:42] <Matic`Makovec> Yeah, yeah
[05:42] <musashi> MasterShrek:  ill prolly be back soon
[05:43] <mr_marvin> funny quiestion, but how do i exit screen that loads when i type "man something"?
[05:43] <barbara_> I turned off dbus under services and stuff crashed! please help?
[05:43] <MasterShrek> ok musashi i have class in an hour so i may not be around, but im usualyl here all the time when im not in class
[05:43] <valermos> mr_marvin, q
[05:43] <ArseneLupin> salam guys
[05:43] <tomy-silc> hi how can i install SILC
[05:43] <musashi> lright then
[05:43] <usr13> sandip, what is "dcpp"?
[05:43] <MasterShrek> barbara_, dont disable dbus :)
[05:43] <MasterShrek> dc plus plus
[05:43] <Matic`Makovec> Lemme paste the same thing now then.
[05:43] <CrypTom> Hi, I would like to run a shell script as root (with sudo), but I cant get it to work
[05:43] <Matic`Makovec> http://pastebin.com/m6071e60c
[05:43] <barbara_> MasterShrek: I miss clicked and next I know stuff shut off
[05:43] <Matic`Makovec> Here it is, genii
[05:43] <CrypTom> it always asks for a password, even if NOPASSWD: is specified
[05:43] <mr_marvin>  valermos: i managged to miss that... tnx ;)
[05:43] <navandres> hi!
[05:44] <CrypTom> my last sudoers line looks as follows:    www-data localhost=(root) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/iar_add.sh
[05:44] <MasterShrek> barbara_, where was this at?
[05:44] <barbara_> MasterShrek: what is dbus used for anyway? my blackbox setup doesn't use it
[05:44] <sandip> linux dc++
[05:44] <ArseneLupin> guys ,how can i add a hardware driver?
[05:44] <ArseneLupin> guys ,how can i add a hardware driver?
[05:44] <ArseneLupin> guys ,how can i add a hardware driver?
[05:44] <barbara_> MasterShrek: on the services section under the start menu
[05:44] <moppit> CrypTom : A shell script you wrote, are you typing ./ first as in ./run_my_shell_script
[05:44] <Pici> !repeat | ArseneLupin
[05:44] <ubotu> ArseneLupin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:44] <tomy-silc> hi how can i install SILC
[05:44] <ArseneLupin> ok pici
[05:45] <MasterShrek> barbara_, check the permissions of /etc/init.d/dbus  and make sure its executable
[05:45] <navandres> I have problems with the soundcard on my laptop
[05:45] <genii> Matic`Makovec: Ah, yes. Because the chrooted environment doesn't know of course of the install candidates i imagine
[05:45] <ArseneLupin> sorry ubotu
[05:45] <CrypTom> moppit: its in the path, but I specify the whole path anyway
[05:45] <musashi> i shuold prolly shut this off while installing bbl
[05:45] <arkygeek> hi.  i am having probs with glx not loading with my nvidia card...
[05:45] <arkygeek> !nvidia
[05:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:45] <Matic`Makovec> genii, might be, I guess. Any idea what is left to do?
[05:45] <geirha> ArseneLupin: what hardware do you need driver for?
[05:45] <o00w> ubotu isn't real
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isn't real - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <barbara_> MasterShrek: ?
[05:45] <ripper> genii: i followed all the instruction at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual but X still fails
[05:45] <kevlar_>  Something is wrong between grub and login....when I run recovery and init 5 no problem. but after grub it goes blank
[05:45] <navandres> I have problems with the soundcard on my Dell Vostro 1500
[05:45] <o00w> haha
[05:46] <MasterShrek> ArseneLupin, ubotu is a bot =P
[05:46] <gchase> I've got a problem where whenever I try to do s3 standby or hibernate, ubuntu appears to perform the action correctly, but my processor, hard drive and fan keep running
[05:46] <genii> Matic`Makovec: dpkg also has a force switch
[05:46] <barbara_> MasterShrek: I tried going back to services section but it says the configuration could not be loaded You are not allowed to access the system configuration
[05:46] <ripper> genii: the nvidia driver 100.14.19 installation completed through these steps
[05:46] <genii> ripper: :(
[05:46] <HentaiSushi> MasterShrek: i almost forgot, i can install mysql in ubuntu, right? i need it for class.
[05:46] <a> what are you all on about
[05:46] <MasterShrek> barbara_, how did u do it before then?
[05:46] <tomy-silc> hi how can i install SILC
[05:46] <MasterShrek> HentaiSushi, of course
[05:47] <barbara_> MasterShrek: I went there and turned it off. I suppose its responsible for allowing me to turn it off
[05:47] <ripper> i checked on the log file in Xorg.0.log, i found in the last line, the "Fatal error: screen not found" or something close to that
[05:47] <HentaiSushi> MasterShrek: there was also something else i had to be able to install... i only ask cause the class was using fedora
[05:47] <MasterShrek> tomy-silc, sudo apt-get install silc ?
[05:47] <ripper> genii: i checked on the log file in Xorg.0.log, i found in the last line, the "Fatal error: screen not found" or something close to that
[05:47] <moppit> tomy-silc sudo apt-get install libsilc-1.0-2
[05:47] <ripper> genii: what does that mean? screen not found
[05:47] <MasterShrek> HentaiSushi, you shoudl be fine, most software is avaiable to both
[05:47] <Matic`Makovec> genii, not that it helps, I belive
[05:47] <usr13> ArseneLupin, sudo insmod drivername
[05:48] <Bo^Dick> i wanna run realplayer on ubuntu
[05:48] <HentaiSushi> alright later then im lagging like heck... maybe cause im installing an OS
[05:48] <barbara_> MasterShrek: wow I can't even shutdown because of that thing...
[05:48] <usr13> ArseneLupin, sudo modprobe drivername
[05:48] <Carsten-> hi guys... uber dumb question.... I forget how to enable root login, can anyone help?
[05:48] <Bo^Dick> how do i stall the BIN file?
[05:48] <sandip> user 13 do u know tat
[05:48] <MasterShrek> barbara_, give me the output of: ls -l /etc/init.d/dbus
[05:48] <moppit> Ooops... SILC install Correction... sudo apt-get install silky
[05:48] <MasterShrek> Bo^Dick, ./filename.bin
[05:48] <genii> ripper: Usually that means the X server is not running
[05:48] <tomy-silc> done that then what to do to run it
[05:48] <barbara_> MasterShrek: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2760 2007-03-08 08:56 /etc/init.d/dbus
[05:49] <navandres> realplay-10.0.9.809-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin
[05:49] <a> hi, xmms says that it cant run my audio but i dont know why
[05:49] <navandres> yes
[05:49] <sandip> user 13,can u resolve tat
[05:49] <ripper> genii: ohh...so, i', doomed?
[05:49] <blue|fox> Hi :> I have an 80GB iPod Classic...I've tried copying music to it with gtkpod, rhythmbox and amarok...with each one the sync is successful, but no music comes up in the list on the ipod :< Anyone know why this might be?
[05:49] <kevlar_>  Something is wrong between grub and login....when I run recovery and init 5 no problem. but after grub it goes blank
[05:49] <navandres> execute the bin file
[05:49] <moppit> just type silky from terminal
[05:49] <MasterShrek> hmm barbara_ have you tried rebooting since this has happened?
[05:49] <MasterShrek> barbara_, also try: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[05:49] <barbara_> MasterShrek: nope but that was my next guess on how to fix it
[05:49] <genii> Matic`Makovec: since it's looking for the mysqld to shutdown you could start it up then try the install again
[05:50] <Bo^Dick> didn't work
[05:50] <tomy-silc> hi how can i install SILC
[05:50] <kst> even tho I set /sys/module/usbhid/parameters/mousepoll to 2, my mx510 usb mouse still works on 100hz instead of 500hz ( /proc/bus/usb/devices says 10ms).. how do I enforce this? somehow it wont work :(
[05:50] <usr13> sandip, No.  tat is not a fully qualified domain name.
[05:50] <navandres> what is the name of your file?
[05:50] <barbara_> MasterShrek: wow that thing has a lot of sub services
[05:50] <mr_marvin> is there any chance i start beryl/compiz on radeon x1300 card?
[05:50] <clouder> how can I prevent screensavers from spanning across both monitors, and have the screensaver be on both monitors individually?
[05:50] <sandip> sorry i dint get u
[05:50] <Matic`Makovec> genii, it doesn't want to start.
[05:51] <Bo^Dick> RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:51] <moppit> tomy-silc did sudo apt-get install silky not work for ya?
[05:51] <sandip> i can see all the users available cant dnld anything from them
[05:51] <navandres> and what is the error text?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> I wonder if there is a realpayer factoid.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> !realplayer
[05:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:51] <genii> Matic`Makovec: Just saw in last paste, you made a syntax error. should not be the complete name of package but after generic name eg: mysql-server   then you put => then the other version part. As i had earlier in the example
[05:51] <MasterShrek> Bo^Dick, chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin && ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:51] <Dr_willis> !bin
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <Dr_willis> we need a .bin factoid :)
[05:51] <usr13> Bo^Dick, chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:52] <usr13> Bo^Dick, ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:52] <genii> Matic`Makovec: eg:  apt-get install -f mysql-server=>5.0_5.0.38-0ubuntu1
[05:52] <Matic`Makovec> genii, look at the last paste again
[05:52] <Matic`Makovec> First I tried it your way, then I tried with usual name
[05:52] <Matic`Makovec> None worked. Tho it might be a syntax error in first one as well
[05:52] <Bo^Dick> usr13: that didn't work despite i was root
[05:52] <murlidhar_> !info bin
[05:52] <ubotu> Package bin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:52] <sandip> user13, did u get me
[05:52] <murlidhar_> grrrrr
[05:52] <Bo^Dick> usr13: maybe i misspelled
[05:52] <usr13> Bo^Dick, sh RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:53] <genii> Matic`Makovec: Ah, yes, apologies
[05:53] <Bo^Dick> usr13: now it works
[05:53] <ripper> genii: according to the steps in the website, i do have one last resort, that is installing the linux-source...would you recommend so? sounds pretty risky
[05:53] <usr13> Bo^Dick, Use tab key to auto-complete.
[05:53] <usr13> Bo^Dick, Good...
[05:53] <moppit> Only way I got realplayer to work was sudo apt-get install realplay but I had to add the commercial repository... 1 sec and I'll dig it up..
[05:53] <genii> Matic`Makovec: I can't remember if a space needed,eg: name => version
[05:53] <MasterShrek> i just use mplayer to play my real media
[05:54] <navandres> there is someone who can help me????
[05:54] <MasterShrek> !ask | navandres
[05:54] <ubotu> navandres: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:54] <erik__> Hi how do i connect to my external harddrive thats pluged in to my airport extreme?
[05:54] <barbara_> MasterShrek: it removed that services thing after it did restart so I'm rebooting
[05:54] <neowikkin> hey. is there a way to write to a windows NTFS partion in ubuntu? or linux at all?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> MasterShrek,  so do i. for what little real media i can even find these days. :)
[05:54] <odomsbar_> I had a friend do a little song about linux http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=499641150398432379&hl=en
[05:54] <usr13> navandres, What is your question?
[05:54] <cdavis> how do I grab the cmp -s exit status as a variable?
[05:54] <MasterShrek> !ntfs-3g | neotrix
[05:54] <ubotu> neotrix: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:54] <Matic`Makovec> Yah, it seems to be it. But it still says it can't find the package, genii
[05:54] <fermatstheorem> neotrix: search for ntfs write in synaptics
[05:54] <navandres> I have problems with the soundcard on my Dell Vostro 1500
[05:54] <cdavis> in a bash script so that I can use if [ $STATUS =0 ] ?
[05:54] <genii> ripper: I'm not sure installing the source is going to help much in this case. But you may want to try the method of purging the binary install and reinstating the restricted-manager, it is at the end of that page somewhere
[05:54] <genii> AFK work
[05:55] <Bo^Dick> usr13: thanks
[05:55] <sandip> user13,i m unable to download from dc++ in ubuntu ultimate
[05:55] <fermatstheorem> neotrix: you will download something called ntfs-write/fuse utils..i dont remember the name...
[05:55] <usr13> Bo^Dick, NP
[05:55] <murlidhar_> just sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g && ntfs-config
[05:55] <ripper> genii: all right, would take your advise
[05:55] <MasterShrek> !ntfs-3g | neowikkin
[05:55] <murlidhar_> neotrix: just sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g && ntfs-config
[05:55] <ubotu> neowikkin: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:55] <navandres> Can't find the way to make it work
[05:55] <usr13> sandip, Please restate your question.  (I do not understand.)
[05:56] <Hilikus> how do i make anacron take care of my user's crontabs and not only /etc/cron.*
[05:56] <sandip> i can see the list of available users in my dc++ but cant dnld files
[05:56] <ripper> genii: by the way, i read somewhere in an ubuntu forum, it was said that the restricted driver does not support 3D...is that right?
[05:56] <moppit> Note.. I am only on dapper, but commercial repository for realplay (er) is deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[05:56] <bsund> is there anyway for apt-get to remove all packages that isnt from sources.list? so you can clean up before upgrading?
[05:57] <ripper> genii: so meaning, desktop effects would not work as well?
[05:57] <Tomcat_> bsund: In synaptic you can create a filter for all "not installable" packages. You can remove those, and it'll be the same. :)
[05:57] <MasterShrek> bsund, i think synaptic has a filter for that
[05:57] <bsund> ah cool :)
[05:57] <erik__> Hi how do i connect to my external harddrive thats pluged in to my airport extreme?
[05:57] <navandres> usr13: Can you drop a line??
[05:58] <sandip> user 13, did u get me
[05:58] <neowikkin> hey. is there a way to write to a windows NTFS partion in ubuntu? or linux at all?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[05:58] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:58] <murlidhar> neowikkin: : just sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g && ntfs-config
[05:58] <rellik> is there a good basic XML parser/validator gui for linux?
[05:59] <Matic`Makovec> Is there a way to make apt simply ignore one package?
[05:59] <usr13> navandres, ?
[05:59] <navandres> usr13: Who can help me with a driver for a SigmaTel soundcard?
[05:59] <barbara_> MasterShrek: I have no background or desktop icons and I can't access services under menu it says Internal error failed to initialize HAL!
[06:00] <erik__> Hi how do i connect to my external harddrive thats pluged in to my airport extreme?
[06:00] <MasterShrek> barbara_, give me the output of: ls -l /etc/init.d/hal
[06:00] <barbara_> MasterShrek: all this cause I miss clicked on that services thing ;_;
[06:01] <barbara_> MasterShrek: ls: /etc/init.d/hal: No such file or directory
[06:01] <MasterShrek> barbara_, thats not good
[06:01] <sandip> can anyone resolve my dc++ prob
[06:01] <valehru> Meh, I updated to gutsy for one package only, it got a few extra dependancies.  Now I reverted back to Fiesty and I am getting the following error trying to install php5-dev: php5-dev: Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed
[06:01] <MasterShrek> barbara_, sudo apt-get install hal
[06:02] <barbara_> MasterShrek: hal is already the newest version.
[06:02] <barbara_> I'll try reinstall
[06:02] <MasterShrek> valehru, it was not designed to upgrade then downgrade, youll probably have more problems than just that
[06:02] <sandip> master shrek, can u resolve my dc++
[06:02] <usr13> navandres, Yes,  I'll try to help.  Do you want to PM me?
[06:02] <valehru> MasterShrek, should I just upgrade for the hell of it?
[06:02] <sandip> usr 13,?
[06:02] <MasterShrek> valehru, yea i would, im running gutsy right now just fine
[06:02] <o00w> does 7.04 run gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver?
[06:02] <navandres> What is PM??
[06:02] <rellik> is there a good basic XML parser/validator gui for linux?
[06:03] <o00w> private message
[06:03] <MasterShrek> o00w, try: locate xscreensaver
[06:03] <valehru> navandres, Private Message, project manager, pre-menstral
[06:03] <MasterShrek> sandip, not really, i dont know anything about dc++
[06:03] <navandres> jeje
[06:03] <navandres> ok
[06:03] <sandip> in linux
[06:03] <navandres> thk
[06:03] <barbara_> MasterShrek: still nothing but is there a guide on this I'm sure its not first time someone has had this problem
[06:03] <Pici> !patience | sandip
[06:03] <ubotu> sandip: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:04] <MasterShrek> i dont know for sure barbara_, did that file appear in /etc/init.d/ ?
[06:04] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, damn 1569 modules lol
[06:04] <moppit> barbara_ / mastershrek : I am only on dapper but I didn't have an /etc/init.d/hal file either.. and Not experiencing any problems.. But I may have missed the first part of the post
[06:04] <barbara_> MasterShrek: nope... is it there on yours? I'm on feisty
[06:05] <MasterShrek> im on gutsy, and its there, but i should think it would b there barbara_
[06:05] <barbara_> moppit: I went under services and clicked off dbus now I'm in a whole hell of startup issues
[06:05] <genii> bah
[06:05] <geirha> MasterShrek: hal doesn't have a init-script ...
[06:05] <MrBougo> hello
[06:05] <Wikzo> geirha: It is solved now. I found help here :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572351
[06:05] <barbara_> MasterShrek: probably a new use of the file system not present in older releases
[06:05] <MasterShrek> dp@dp-lappy:~$ ls -l /etc/init.d/hal
[06:05] <MasterShrek> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2294 2007-10-01 03:13 /etc/init.d/hal
[06:05] <o00w> Pici: ok so the terminal located png, mo, and svg files for xscreensaver ...but that command returns results for gnome-screensaver also?
[06:06] <erUSUL> MasterShrek: hald is not started1 by system V init afaik i found this grepping ( less /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal )
[06:06] <usr13> sandip needs to ask specific question(s)
[06:06] <MrBougo> is there any way to change the cd in the tray while using the livecd
[06:06] <MrBougo> i mean
[06:06] <Pici> o00w: Huh? I think you have the wrong person :)
[06:06] <barbara_> MasterShrek: I have a /usr/lib/hal
[06:06] <MrBougo> i'd like to burn a cd
[06:06] <sandip> r u available nw
[06:06] <geirha> Wikzo: ah, nice :)
[06:06] <usr13> MrBougo, No
[06:06] <MrBougo> eek
[06:06] <geirha> MasterShrek: it's not there in edgy at least
[06:06] <sandip> usr 13 ,,r u available nw
[06:06] <barbara_> MasterShrek: and a /usr/share/hal
[06:06] <MrBougo> because my mbr is all messed up
[06:07] <MasterShrek> barbara_, do you have a /usr/bin/hal ?
[06:07] <usr13> sandip, Yes
[06:07] <MasterShrek> or hald
[06:07] <o00w> Pici: sorry my bad
[06:07] <MrBougo> i need to burn a cd so that i can fix it
[06:07] <MrBougo> bleh
[06:07] <barbara_> MasterShrek: no but something in /etc too
[06:07] <MrBougo> ok  thanks... bye
[06:07] <Aw0L> if I downloaded and installed 7.10 beta, would I have to do anything to make it "non-beta" when the final release comes out?
[06:07] <usr13> sandip, But I may not know the answer to your question.
[06:07] <sandip> usr 13,u got my prob??
[06:07] <paulowsky> MrBougo. you're using the live cd so you can't eject it
[06:07] <murlidhar> MrBougo: reinstall mbr then
[06:07] <o00w> MasterShrek: ok so the terminal located png, mo, and svg files for xscreensaver ...but that command returns results for gnome-screensaver also?
[06:07] <erUSUL> Aw0L: only accept the updates as they come
[06:07] <MasterShrek> barbara_, i dont really know how hal works, but if its not starting i would think you would need an init script for it
[06:07] <barbara_> MasterShrek: oooh /usr/sbin/hald
[06:07] <usr13> sandip, No, I do not understand your question.
[06:07] <sandip> dint u try dc++ in linux
[06:07] <Aw0L> erUSUL, so the only difference between the beta and final release are package versions?
[06:08] <MasterShrek> o00w, i think gnome-screensaver might be a metapackage, but im not sure
[06:08] <erUSUL> Aw0L: yes
[06:08] <barbara_> MasterShrek: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 249804 2007-03-30 13:54 /usr/sbin/hald
[06:08] <Aw0L> erUSUL, thanks
[06:08] <usr13> sandip, No
[06:08] <MasterShrek> barbara_, try: ps -e | grep hald
[06:08] <sandip> usr 13. i can browse the files in dc++ but cant dnld them
[06:08] <ArseneLupin> how do i connect my Sagem 800 fast modem for the foirst time ?
[06:09] <sandip> usr 13,so wat can be possible reasons for tat
[07:29] (magnetron/#ubuntu) !gutsy | GutsyTest8
[07:29] (ubotu/#ubuntu) GutsyTest8: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[07:29] (z0rz/#ubuntu) I just added a new environment variable to /etc/environment ... how do I "rehash" my shell?
[07:29] (trdracer/#ubuntu) magnetron: how is it that i install file-roller?
[07:29] (genii/#ubuntu) kidalabama: If they are willing to open up ports, you should go for at least: 20-27 80 110
[07:30] (Otokonoko/#ubuntu) What in the world...
[07:30] (GutsyTest8/#ubuntu) the restricted drivers cannot be downloaded using gutsy, is this an know fact?
[07:30] <Pici> GutsyTest8: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[07:30] <magnetron> trdracer: it is already installed if you install the standard ubuntu. double click an extracted file and it will be opened by fileroller
[07:31] <Otokonoko> bsund: It's not a hardware problem... I can play "Experience ubuntu.ogg" just fine using the Movie Player.
[07:31] <alromaithi> hey guys im using KDE and my sound card is on my mother board , i want to use my card but i cant find the option to change it?>
[07:31] <alromaithi> the alsamixer indicated the built in sound card not the PCI
[07:31] <trdracer> well earlier when i had this installed i just right click and extract here..but now its telling me not a supported file type
[07:31] <trdracer> and it is RAR so install that package corect?
[07:31] <bsund> Otokonoko, nah must be something with firefox/flash
[07:31] <usr13> GutsyTest8, If you add repositories you probably can.  Depends on what drivers you're talking about, but as Pici says, take it to #ubnutn+1 for better more accurate info.
[07:31] <Otokonoko> bsund: I almost want to reinstall everything involved and see if that works.
[07:32] <z0rz> I just added a new environment variable to /etc/environment ... how do I "rehash" my shell?
[07:32] <bsund> Otokonoko, seems like people have some problems with different solutions but they seem rare
[07:32] <bsund> do you use the 64bit version?
[07:32] <Otokonoko> No.
[07:33] <Acoustyk> Can anybody direct me to a guide that will show me how to do a clean reinstall over my current Ubuntu partition without touching anything else?
[07:33] <usr13> Otokonoko, Is your problem with audio from streaming video?
[07:33] <Acoustyk> I have a live cd and all that
[07:33] <Otokonoko> usr13: If by streaming video, you mean "YouTube and YT-derivatives", then yes
[07:34] <Otokonoko> bsund has found several different solutions, none of which have worked, unfortunately.
[07:34] <usr13> Otokonoko, Are you sure the video player applet is not muted or volume is not turned down?
[07:34] <Otokonoko> usr13: Yes, and yes.
[07:34] <Misosaki> !reinstall
[07:34] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[07:34] <Misosaki> !upgrade
[07:34] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:34] <murlidhar> trdracer: u have to sudo apt-get install unrar
[07:35] <usr13> Otokonoko, Or that you've not run a java applet that may still have audio  tied up
[07:35] <bsund> another solution, but older version of ubuntu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186594
[07:35] <genii> z0rz: Why not just logout/login
[07:35] <qaws> hi, can you help me, how to mount my new disk to "/" pls? Is posible to mount 2 disks to 1 location? /etc/fstab has some UUIDs there, but not entries that is described on loads of pages.
[07:35] <bsund> flash is the problem not java :)
[07:35] <trdracer> thanks murlidhar
[07:35] <murlidhar> trdracer: then just double click on the rar file
[07:35] <z0rz> genii: I guess I could do that.. But I'm trying to configure an environemnt variable for liek 20 compiters
[07:35] <Wolf23> erUSUL: thanx anyway
[07:36] <Otokonoko> usr13: What bsund said, that and the problem was happening even before I installed Java (in this case, Puzzle Pirates)
[07:36] <bsund> Otokonoko, last tip if nothing else have worked, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_setup_PulseAudio_Sound_Server
[07:36] <beanage> Compizfusion, is that a stand alone install or will I need to download and install compiz first and then upgrade to compizfusion.
[07:36] <usr13> Otokonoko, You might also see if Firefox is latest version?  Or try another version?
[07:36] <usr13> Otokonoko, Try another browser
[07:37] <Wolf23> anyone help me with Virtualbox, thanx?
[07:37] <z0rz> If I type  sudo echo $JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun" >> /etc/environemnt I get bash: /etc/environment: Permission denied
[07:37] <Otokonoko> usr13: I ran the upgrade manager when I first installed and everything is up to date. I'll try the last few options you and bsund have given
[07:37] <stdin> z0rz: use tee
[07:37] <z0rz> stdin: teehee k
[07:37] <beanage> z0rz: try gksudo
[07:37] <stdin> z0rz: "echo  JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun" | sudo tee -a /etc/environemnt"
[07:38] <bsund> Otokonoko, seems like a very rare problem with flash :(
[07:38] <navandres> usr13: can you help me?
[07:38] <beanage> Compizfusion, is that a stand alone install or will I need to download and install compiz first and then upgrade to compizfusion.
[07:38] <usr13> Otokonoko, What version is your firefox?
[07:38] <usr13> navandres, What is your question?
[07:39] <Otokonoko> usr13: Firefox/2.0.0.6 (Ubuntu-feisty)
[07:39] <Otokonoko> according to the About dialog.
[07:39] <navandres> usr13: you ask me tu send you by PM
[07:39] <navandres> usr13: and i did it
[07:39] <z0rz> stdin: tee's not working.. I copy/pasted your command exactly and it doesn't give error.. and it actually echo's the line out to the terminal.. but tee doesn't seem to catch it and insert it into /etc/environment
[07:40] <anto_> !nvidia
[07:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:40] <stdin> z0rz: have you checked /etc/environment ?
[07:40] <z0rz> stdin: Yes
[07:41] <cAbRiTo> Hola alguien habla espaol?
[07:41] <pipegeek> damnit
[07:41] <Pici> !es | cAbRiTo
[07:41] <ubotu> cAbRiTo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:41] <erUSUL> !es | cAbRiTo
[07:41] <pipegeek> why the fuck is ubuntu so easy to use?
[07:41] <Pici> !language | pipegeek
[07:41] <pipegeek> I was all settled in for a long battle with cups
[07:41] <erUSUL> !ohmy | pipegeek
[07:41] <ubotu> pipegeek: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:41] <ubotu> pipegeek: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:41] <pipegeek> haha, sorry about that
[07:42] <z0rz> stdin: Sorry.. Typo  .. I got it working now.. Thanks
[07:42] <stdin> z0rz: hmm, k "sudo nano /etc/environment" paste it in, Ctrl+o then Ctrl-x
[07:42] <usr13> navandres, Didn't get it.
[07:42] <usr13> Just do it here.
[07:42] <stdin> z0rz: ahh, ok :)
[07:42] <navandres> usr13: ahh ok
[07:42] <Otokonoko> Hah, that is quite possibly the best auto-help topic I have ever seen
[07:42] <pipegeek> heh
[07:42] <navandres> usr13: i will going to try again
[07:42] <cAbRiTo>  ubotu>>>>>>muchas gracias!! thanks (Y)
[07:42] <z0rz> stdin: You wouldn't happend to know how to "rehash" /etc/environment w/o a relogin, woulda ya?
[07:42] <Otokonoko> Okay, how do I save this file and quit the terminal version of nano?
[07:43] <erUSUL> Otokonoko: Crtl + O ; Crtl + X
[07:43] <stdin> z0rz: you can do it per-shell with "source /etc/environment"
[07:43] <stdin> z0rz: only works in the shell you put the command in
[07:43] <jbish> anyone with!!!!!experience with tablet pc and fpit drivers
[07:43] <usr13> Otokonoko, instructions are at bottom of screen.
[07:44] <z0rz> stdin: Good enough for me.  Unless Make is going to cry about it when I go to compile...
[07:44] <Hilikus> is it dangerous if i create a symlink from /etc/cron.daily to the user's crontables (/var/spool/cron/crontabs) since root will run cron and therefore the user crontabs?
[07:44] <futbol> ola
[07:45] <navandres> usr13: I just open a dialog window
[07:45] <navandres> usr13: do you see it?
[07:45] <skynexus_> hello, I have a question regarding web cameras in Ubuntu
[07:45] <usr13> navandres  /join #navandres
[07:45] <_Andrew> skynexus_: whats the question?
[07:46] <Wolf23> _Andrew:  wb :)
[07:46] <skynexus_> I have bought a cheap USB web camera and connected but nothing works...
[07:46] <skynexus_> ...and...
[07:46] <skynexus_> ...I have determined the USB manufacturer ID as well as product ID...
[07:46] <_Andrew> ok
[07:47] <skynexus_> ...and from that figured out that the driver I needed was gspca
[07:47] <beanage> so if ubuntu 7 is feisty fawn, whats 6 called?
[07:47] <skynexus_> so I installed the corresponding package, compiled, got kernel driver loaded, yet nothing
[07:47] <Pici> !codenames | beanage
[07:47] <ubotu> beanage: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more
[07:48] <_Andrew> skynexus_: Did you try unplugging the usb device and then plugging it back in?
[07:48] <Nemesis> does anyone know any decent window managers that are actually useful
[07:48] <skynexus_> yes, several times
[07:49] <skynexus_> also after manually running modprobe on said driver
[07:49] <_Andrew> skynexus_: My webcam for some reason only works if I plug it directly into the usb not into a usb hub.. are you using a usb hub?
[07:49] <beanage> Is the install the same for Ubuntu Feisty Fawn and Ubuntu Edgy?
[07:50] <Milos_SD> Will Final version of Gutsy Gibon have 2.6.23 kernel or 2.6.22 ?
[07:50] <Otokonoko> Well, the forum tip didn't work, Epiphany doesn't work... guess I have to try Pulse
[07:50] <skynexus_> oh, ok... tried with hub and connector on front of the computer... guess I might try on the back as well
[07:50] <bsund> Otokonoko, sry was away for a time u can use gedit instead of nano, i a bit easier
[07:50] <bsund> is*
[07:50] <DShepherd> Milos_SD, i dont know. ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:50] <Otokonoko> bsund: I got it in the end :P
[07:51] <beanage> Is the install for Compiz the same for Ubuntu Feisty Fawn and Ubuntu Edgy?
[07:51] <Dr_willis> millhouse,  .23 is a 'beta' kernel as far as i know. being an odd ##
[07:51] <doktoreas> does the server edition use a desktop manager?
[07:52] <Dr_willis> doktoreas,  server does not have X included. No desktop
[07:52] <doktoreas> good
[07:52] <genii> doktoreas: Not by default
[07:52] <doktoreas> Dr_willis, and lamp is default one?
[07:52] <doktoreas> i need just tomcat
[07:52] <beanage> Is the install for Compiz the same for Ubuntu Feisty Fawn and Ubuntu Edgy?
[07:52] <skynexus_> just hooked up to the back but nothing, and by nothing I mean that I got not /dev/video files how up
[07:52] <MikeonTV> hey all. Running Fiesty, I recently allowed the automatic upgrades to go through and have since lost my sound. very confusing
[07:52] <Dr_willis> Lamp is not a desktop.. :)
[07:52] <Dr_willis> !lamp
[07:52] <murlidhar> :)
[07:53] <skynexus_> i meant to say, no /dev/video file showed up
[07:53] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:53] <Otokonoko> MikeonTV: I ran the automatic updater on my first boot of Ubuntu and now Flash sound doesn't work.
[07:53] <Otokonoko> MikeonTV: so I feel your pain. Sort of.
[07:53] <MikeonTV> so you haven't figured it out yet?
[07:53] <beanage> !Edgy
[07:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the 5th release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[07:53] <skynexus_> it is my understanding that when a web camera works properly in linux, then when connected the file /dev/video should become available, which applications then use to communicate with the camera, or something to that effect
[07:53] <doktoreas> thx Dr_willis
[07:54] <beanage> Is the install for Compiz the same for Ubuntu Feisty Fawn and Ubuntu Edgy?
[07:54] <Otokonoko> bsund: E: Couldn't find package gst-pulse
[07:54] <_Andrew> skynexus_: Did you try viewing the webcam using camorama or something?
[07:54] <Dr_willis> beanage,  you may want to wait for gutsy to mess with compiz. since its in there by default. makes it much easier.
[07:54] <skynexus_> yes
[07:55] <bsund> Otokonoko, ignore it for now
[07:55] <bsund> do the rest
[07:55] <skynexus_> camonarama says it could not connect to /dev/video0
[07:55] <_Andrew> ok
[07:55] <skynexus_> also used lauchcam2
[07:55] <beanage> Dr_Willis, I would wait but I deploy to Iraq in a week. =(
[07:55] <skynexus_> no luck
[07:55] <_Andrew> Whats the webcam and usb id?
[07:55] <skynexus_> Bus 005 Device 009: ID 093a:2600 Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[07:56] <beanage> dr_willis> That why I gotta find a guide to get it up and running now. =p
[07:56] <Dr_willis> beanage,  Gee.. You are a dedicated leet-linux-haxor. :)
[07:56] <beanage> Dr_Willis> but all I can find right now is feisty install compiz how to's.
[07:56] <skynexus_> bought in a swedish retail store, clas ohlson, and nothing on the package or camera indicated the manufacturer
[07:56] <skynexus_> it was the cheapest they got :-)
[07:56] <beanage> Dr_willis>> I try
[07:56] <bsund> Otokonoko, you can do sudo apt-get install libgstreamer-plugins-pulse0.10-0, but it doesnt matter with firefox
[07:57] <murlidhar> beanage: go ahead try :)
[07:57] <musashi> question, when you delete a partition, does it move the unallocated space to the end?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> beanage,  installing compiz on the older releases.. i imagine can get harder and harder. Lot of needed Driver, and xorg bits thathave to be just right.
[07:57] <Lakitu7> I'm dual booting feisty with XP. If I want to share profiles of thunderbird, pidgin, etc., is ntfs3g stable and recommended enough for everyday frequent use that I should use it? Or should I still make a fat32 partition for "in-between" and use that?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> musashi,  no. it does not.
[07:57] <musashi> suck
[07:57] <Dr_willis> musashi,  you have a block of unallocated drive right where the parittin was at.
[07:57] <musashi> is there any way to move them around?
[07:58] <Dr_willis> musashi,  it would be a neat task if it did.  use gparted and move the OTHER partitins around
[07:58] <graelb> I just want to type in cd $scripts, and have it go to /home/graelb/.bin ... how do i set that up?
[07:58] <musashi> Dr_willis, my problem is XP is on the third partition when i need it to be the second one
[07:58] <Dr_willis> graelb,  bash has a 'cd path' variable/feature i think where ya could just do 'cd scripts' and it would default to /home/whatever
[07:59] <alx_> hola
[07:59] <alx_> a todos
[07:59] <Pici> !es | alx_
[07:59] <ubotu> alx_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:59] <bruenig> scripts="/home/whatever" ; cd $scripts
[07:59] <Dr_willis> graelb,    make an alias - would be an easier way  'alias cds='cd /home/whatever/bin''
[07:59] <ferronica> how could i increase my download speed :( i got ADSL 1Mbps connection
[07:59] <beanage> Dr_willis>> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/EyeCandy has acouple guides but their only labeled for mainstream video cards ATI nvidia i915. I have a VIA onboard graffix card.
[07:59] <martin__> testing irssi
[08:00] <kazi> #Ale_K24
[08:00] <Dr_willis> beanage,  egads.. :) im not sure that card can even handle it. Might want to try a live cd that has compiz on it.
[08:00] <graelb> that's all there is to it? alias newcommand='what you want that new command to do' ?
[08:00] <Dr_willis> graelb,  it might be worth your time - to read a few bash boolks/guides. :)
[08:00] <_Andrew> skynexus_: I found this thread on the forums for your camera I don't know if you looked at this already... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501451
[08:00] <ferronica> anybody who can help me regarding azureus ?
[08:00] <Dr_willis> graelb,  check out the 'advanced bash scripting guide' its in the repos. and online.
[08:00] <graelb> hehe yeah, this is true
[08:00] <bruenig> bash books are a waste, just use the internets and learn it gradually by practice
[08:00] <musashi> is there no way to move the second partition, or combine it with the first?
[08:00] <graelb> ok
[08:01] <graelb> will do. thank you =P
[08:01] <Ongaku> im having strange make errors...error 1 and error 2 what's going on?
[08:01] <scguy318> Ongaku: what does it say before that?
[08:01] <scguy318> !pastebin | Ongaku
[08:01] <ubotu> Ongaku: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:01] <alx_> hola
[08:01] <beanage> Dr_willis>> I'm pretty sure it can, based on it's gaming capabilitys when I had XP on their. So.. is it possable to find a guide for a VIA card?
[08:01] <skynexus_> no, i had not seen it... let go over it and ill be back in a while, thank you :-)
[08:01] <Ongaku> Phrase.cpp:274: error: 'phraseEdit' was not declared in this scope
[08:01] <Ongaku> make[4] : *** [Phrase.lo]  Error 1
[08:01] <Ongaku> make[4] : Leaving directory `/home/katy/Desktop/Stuff/tse3-0.3.1/src/tse3/cmd'
[08:01] <Ongaku> make[3] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[08:01] <Ongaku> make[3] : Leaving directory `/home/katy/Desktop/Stuff/tse3-0.3.1/src/tse3'
[08:01] <Ongaku> make[2] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[08:01] <Ongaku> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/katy/Desktop/Stuff/tse3-0.3.1/src'
[08:02] <Ongaku> make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[08:02] <Ongaku> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/katy/Desktop/Stuff/tse3-0.3.1'
[08:02] <Ongaku> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[08:02] <murlidhar> !enter | Ongaku
[08:02] <Otokonoko> PulseAudio just threw up on me.
[08:02] <ubotu> Ongaku: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:02] <Pici> !paste
[08:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:02] <Konam> how can i kill the xserver?
[08:02] <murlidhar> !pastebin | Ongaku
[08:02] <ubotu> Ongaku: please see above
[08:02] <scguy318> Konma: permanently? sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:02] <trumee> does anybody have HAUPPAUGE 1100 or SAA7134 based card?
[08:03] <scguy318> !anybody | trumee
[08:03] <ubotu> trumee: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:03] <Ongaku> http://pastebin.com/me9f6132
[08:03] <Dr_willis> beanage,  it may more of an issue of the quailty of the via drivers for linux. ive no idea on the chipset. Sorry
[08:04] <trumee> i cant seem to use LINE-IN on my HAUPPAUGE card. Need some help.
[08:04] <Konam> which is the command to kill the xserver (not the ctrl+alt+backspace)
[08:04] <ferronica> Pici: can you help me regarding Azureus ?
[08:04] <Dr_willis> beanage,  best test would be a qick test install of Gutsy.  or try the gutsy live cd.
[08:04] <beanage> DR_willis>> thanks bud.
[08:04] <Pici> ferronica: Nope, sorry :(
[08:04] <Ongaku> why dont u use Ktorrent ferronica, it's better i think
[08:04] <shimizu> ferronica quit using java torrent clients, best suggestion
[08:04] <Dr_willis> beanage,  lets just say that compiz can give my 6800 a bit of a work out
[08:04] <beanage> nice
[08:04] <Ongaku> http://pastebin.com/me9f6132 here's the error...had the same problem when i was trying to make for kguitar
[08:05] <murlidhar> ferronica: i am with Ongaku  and shimizu
[08:06] <Ongaku> i haven't installed a source package in awhile...never got error 1 or error 2 when doing make
[08:06] <slashzul_> ls
[08:06] <astronaught> Does anyone know what kernel version gutsy will release with?
[08:06] <Pici> astronaught: 2.6.22
[08:06] <astronaught> thanks pici  :D
[08:06] <astronaught> No CFS then...
[08:06] <astronaught> Ho hum.
[08:06] <Otokonoko> bsund, usr13: Okay, none of your solutions have worked... should I reinstall all the plugins involved?
[08:07] <Otokonoko> !reinstall
[08:07] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[08:07] <bieb> there is an apache/log/rewrite.log file that I had to zero out.. how can I find the config file that is making the writes to it?
[08:07] <niina_> How do i register my nick at freenode.net?
[08:08] <bruenig> !register
[08:08] <Ongaku> so what is this? error 1 and error 2 in make files? can it be fixed easily? lol
[08:08] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:08] <niina_> !register
[08:08] <murlidhar> niina_:  type /msg nickserv help
[08:09] <bsund> Otokonoko, hmm i have no clue.. read somewhere that flash 9 is bad and one could try to install a older version
[08:09] <bsund> Otokonoko, but dunno..
[08:09] <Ongaku> says that phraseedit does not have any field named
[08:09] <diego_> buenas,
[08:09] <bsund> mine worked out of the box and seems to do for everyone :/
[08:10] <Otokonoko> :(
[08:10] <shimizu> im glad ati made some decent drivers so compiz fusion now runs =] 
[08:10] <niina_> is Python a good programming language to start with or should i go with Perl instead?
[08:10] <bsund> Otokonoko, or wait you edited the /etc/firefox/firefoxrc ?
[08:10] <SlimeyPete> python will probably be easiest, niina_
[08:10] <Otokonoko> bsund: No.
[08:10] <shimizu> niina_, python is very good
[08:10] <dfletcher_> niina_, Python FTW!
[08:11] <dfletcher_> lol
[08:11] <SlimeyPete> the syntax is simpler
[08:11] <trdracer> !python
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <niina_> oh rly? :P
[08:11] <niina_> great
[08:11] <trdracer> what python?
[08:11] <niina_> Il go with that then
[08:11] <Otokonoko> bsund: Did I miss something to do regarding that file?
[08:11] <niina_> a programming language
[08:11] <bsund> Otokonoko, ok so it still says "none" ?
[08:11] <murlidhar> trdracer: it is a language
[08:11] <trdracer> i just speak & write english & spanish :P
[08:11] <Otokonoko> bsund: OMG. Yes, yes it does.
[08:11] <shimizu> niina_, the only thing there is not many services wich provide python hosting, but in some time there will be a lot.. if u planning not write web projects it's all fine
[08:11] <Ongaku> i'm getting error 1 and error 2 when trying to make, anyone know how to fix it
[08:12] <bsund> Otokonoko, well.. thats what it does defaults and it usually work anyway :(
[08:12] <murlidhar> trdracer: computer language something that a computer needs
[08:12] <bsund> Otokonoko, sry but i have no clue
[08:12] <Lakitu7> How good is ntfs3g nowadays? Is it stable enough to where there's even little-no anecdotals of "ntfs3g trashed my drive"?
[08:12] <trdracer> murlidhar: got it..
[08:12] <trdracer> now how do i get my bluetooth mouse to get working?
[08:12] <trdracer> oh yeah....
[08:12] <trdracer> !bluetooth
[08:12] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:13] <Ongaku> jus trying to use KGuitar...*sigh* lol
[08:13] <bsund> Otokonoko, give me a sec and i'll try to find a older flash and you can try with that, try everything else now and see if any sound work at all after all fiddeling :P
[08:13] <murlidhar> Lakitu7: yes it is stable
[08:13] <punzada> Lakitu7, it's supposedly really stable now, but I still don't trust it for constant read/writes
[08:13] <riotkittie> Lakitu7: it's enabled in 7.10, out of the box, i believe.... if that says anything. and i believe it's been out of beta for a while
[08:13] <murlidhar> !stable | Lakitu7
[08:13] <ubotu> Lakitu7: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:13] <murlidhar> :)
[08:13] <Lakitu7> Heh. Fat32 in-between partition it is then I guess.
[08:14] <zac> hi
[08:14] <gabbarinho> hello
[08:14] <punzada> that's what I did
[08:14] <punzada> converted my xp partition to fat32 and use it as my download partition
[08:14] <Yulquen> made a couple of smb shares on my ubuntu box for use with networked dvd player.dvd player can access all shares fine without user&pasword, but my windoze pz insist on username and password for the same shares.isnt this just a guest account?
[08:14] <punzada> works great so far.
[08:14] <trdracer> damn still cant get my mouse to work...
[08:14] <trdracer> i had it working before i formatted and reinstalled =\
[08:15] <Otokonoko> bsund: brb, gotta vacuum
[08:16] <trdracer> anyone know how i can change my resolutionto 1280 x 1024?
[08:16] <cld2> what is the channel for compiz question/support? thanks.
[08:18] <Norrel> cld2: #ubuntu-effects
[08:18] <niina_> So, /away and /quit are on a boat, /away jumps off, who's left?
[08:18] <Otokonoko> bsund: WAIT A MOMENT.
[08:18] <cld2> Norrel: thanks
[08:18] <Otokonoko> bsund: I installed flash through Firefox when I first installed Ubuntu
[08:18] <finalbeta> . /quit niina_ , and don't do that in a support channel
[08:18] <murlidhar> trdracer: preferences>screen resolution
[08:18] <D123> how stable is 7.10 at this moment?
[08:18] <Otokonoko> bsund: and then I installed the Restricted Media Package, which ALSO comes with flash. Could that be the conflict?
[08:19] <bsund> Otokonoko, no idea.. but maybe
[08:20] <murlidhar> niina_: do u use xchat?
[08:20] <trdracer> murlidhar: that way doesnt work...i got tit though
[08:20] <trdracer> i had to type
[08:20] <bsund> Otokonoko, do sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[08:20] <trdracer> some weird command
[08:21] <benzon> where can i change the splash boot screen in ubuntu?
[08:21] <Otokonoko> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-notfree
[08:21] <Otokonoko> ... wait, what?!
[08:21] <Pici> Otokonoko: nonfree, not notfree
[08:21] <Otokonoko> whoops.
[08:21] <Otokonoko> *headdesk*
[08:22] <Konam> D123 tomorrow the RC is out
[08:22] <Otokonoko> bsund: Okay, command run successfully
[08:23] <benzon> Is it possible to change the Boot splash screen on Ubuntu
[08:23] <mik3> anyone have problems with their web browsers crashing when they look at flash video sites like youtube or break?
[08:23] <bsund> then do sudo rm -f /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/*flash*
[08:23] <Konam> someone knows how can I kill the xserver, not restart it
[08:23] <Konam> ???
[08:23] <Otokonoko> bsund: And then I threw in a sudo apt-get autoremove for good measure
[08:23] <bsund> then do sudo rm -f /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/*flash*
[08:23] <Pici> Konam: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[08:24] <Otokonoko> bsund: Done
[08:24] <bsund> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:25] <Otokonoko> done
[08:25] <bsund> restart firefox etc
[08:25] <bsund> would be strange if it worked but wth
[08:26] <Otokonoko> bsund: haha
[08:26] <Otokonoko> bsund: Well, no strange happenings here.
[08:26] <Otokonoko> No dice.
[08:26] <bsund> rm -fr ~/.mozilla
[08:26] <D123> Konam thanks, IM currently running a 7.10 beta, upgraded from 7.04 last night
[08:26] <bsund> restart
[08:26] <D123> It crashed on me nearly 3 times already :(
[08:27] <Pici> D123: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[08:27] <nuked_omen> i need a program to extract audio from a video file, anyone knows?
[08:27] <bsund> that was the thing you should have deleted in the first place not the /usr/lib/mozilla thing :P
[08:27] <assasukasse> i was using swiftfox repo, after installing the beta 5 swiftfox doesn't start anymore, is that only me, or someone else has seen that too..
[08:27] <bsund> i messed up :P
[08:27] <Otokonoko> bsund: so, do that command, reboot, then reinstall Firefox?
[08:27] <punzada> I haven't tried swiftfox yet, is it really a major improvement?
[08:27] <bsund> nah just restart firefox
[08:28] <Pici> assasukasse: Perhaps you should be asking the swiftfox team.
[08:28] <assasukasse> punzada: is slightly faster..
[08:28] <MrPink> hey heguru ;)
[08:28] <bsund> nothing harmed in the /usr/lib/mozilla thing though just that the files were already gone
[08:28] <tushyd> I was thinking of getting the xbox 360 hd dvd drive... does anyone know if I could use it on my computer? (feisty)
[08:28] <Otokonoko> bsund: No dice, once again.
[08:29] <bsund> i have no clue sorry :(
[08:29] <Otokonoko> bsund: well, thanks for your help.
[08:29] <bsund> nah was just fun to do some detective work :)
[08:29] <bsund> but i make no good sherlock :~(
[08:30] <Otokonoko> !reinstall
[08:30] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[08:31] <humo> hello
[08:31] <tushyd> anyone? 360 hddvd drive in Ubuntu?
[08:31] <humo> hello
[08:31] <humo> hello hello
[08:32] <humo> no clue
[08:32] <humo> im a newbie
[08:32] <murlidhar> !ask | humo
[08:32] <ubotu> humo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:32] <Otokonoko> bsund: Would I harm something by sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox and reinstalling?
[08:32] <shimizu> !hey
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <murlidhar> !hello
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <murlidhar> grrrrrrrr
[08:33] <bsund> Otokonoko, i dont think so, i think it would be the same as rm -fr ~/.mozilla
[08:33] <murlidhar> humo can we help u
[08:33] <murlidhar> :)
[08:33] <shimizu> lols
[08:33] <shimizu> =)
[08:34] <shimizu> any suggestion why 3d windows does not work on compiz fusion
[08:34] <shimizu> ;p
[08:34] <murlidhar> shimizu: perhaps at /#ubuntu-effects
[08:34] <shimizu> oh
[08:34] <shimizu> =)
[08:36] <MrPink> when will Gutsy be released ?
[08:37] <murlidhar> 8days left
[08:37] <MrPink> ok cool, thanks
[08:37] <bsund> Otokonoko, one thing you could try is to go to http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14266 and download flash 7.. i dont know if there is a linux version in it though :S depends on your bandwith it's 30'ish MB
[08:38] <MrPink> if I already install Gutsy now, and do the updates it shows me, than I will have the same version as if I would wait for the release and download it then, correct ?
[08:38] <anto_> Can somone help me install my nvidia drivers ??
[08:38] <Dr_willis> MrPink,  gutsy is having about 100mb of updates a day for me over the last week.. :) You MIGHT want to wait.
[08:38] <tonynlisa> Anyone familiar with content filtering? I'm looking for a way to perminantly block 3rd party ads
[08:38] <MikeonTV> Since upgrading to the newest kernel I have noticed that my wireless isn't working. I then went back to the previous kernel and it still isn't working
[08:39] <Dr_willis> MrPink,  when released it should get updated fine. (should)
[08:39] <murlidhar> MrPink: dunno for sure ask in gutsy channel
[08:39] <anto_> Anyone that can help me please, i would realy love to have my drivers working again...
[08:39] <murlidhar> !gutsy | MrPink
[08:39] <ubotu> MrPink: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:39] <wanga> werd
[08:39] <wanga> suppies
[08:39] <wanga> :)
[08:39] <MrPink> Dr_Willis well the thing is I wanted to reinstall the whole system anyway (as I am switching my Windows version as well) so I wanted to do a whole System change... and install Gutsy instead of Feisty as a "fresh" install
[08:40] <Dr_willis> MrPink,  Go for it. :) if its not a production machine. report bugs also! :)
[08:40] <bsund> Otokonoko, you can also remove the /etc/asound.conf and any .asound.conf since they did no good
[08:40] <murlidhar> MrPink: if u can wait for a few days . my suggestion
[08:40] <bsund> ~/.asound*
[08:41] <Soli1> hi i'm using aptana as a plugin with eclipse, my question is : how to "edit HTML files in code mode" without always opening them with the integrated browser? (BAD english)
[08:41] <MrPink> marlidhar maybe I should... but I already burned the Gutsy Image on a DVD lol
[08:41] <gpolo> hello, is there any bug report for python2.5 debug build package ?
[08:41] <MrPink> marlidhar but maybe I will wait afterall... that might be best...
[08:41] <Jimmey> What does it mean to bridge two internet connections?
[08:42] <murlidhar> MrPink: :)
[08:42] <murlidhar> MrPink: my name is murlidhar not marlidhar :/
[08:42] <MrPink> ups ^^
[08:42] <MrPink> sry ;)
[08:43] <murlidhar> MrPink: just type mur then press TAB
[08:43] <MrPink> murlidhar why do you suggest the wait... because of issues, or because of the many updates coming out ?
[08:43] <benzon> how can i force an install true apt-get?
[08:43] <murlidhar> MrPink: yes
[08:43] <MrPink> murlidhar hehe sry... that doesn't work I am using ChatZilla a firefox extension... tab doesnt help ;)
[08:43] <erUSUL> benzon: -f
[08:44] <d90> hey I want to try KDE enviroment and question is: Is possable to use KDE and Gnome on one installation of ubuntu (so, I choose on startup witch to use)?
[08:44] <Ballena> how can i see what fonts is installed on my system?
[08:44] <murlidhar> MrPink: it works see options in chatzilla
[08:44] <ice9> any tutorials for setting up domain controller using feisty and having winxp as clients
[08:44] <UserC> yes d90 that is possible
[08:44] <Jimmey> d90, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, if you have a good internet connection
[08:44] <xspikex> g
[08:44] <riotkittie> and then you can select via "sessions" on the login screen
[08:45] <Jimmey> d90, or sudo apt-get install kdebase
[08:45] <d90> Jimmey, no I havent but what to do I`ll download it, THX
[08:45] <benzon> erUSUL, just says its installed and i still want to reinstall that thing how do i do that
[08:45] <d90> Jimmey, ok first or second or booth to download
[08:45] <Jimmey> d90, try sudo apt-get install kdebase then, and you can select KDE from the options in the login menu
[08:46] <dogg> hi
[08:46] <MrPink> murlidhar I checked through the menues (again) can you tell me where I can find it ?
[08:47] <bsund> Otokonoko, hmm btw since the closed source flash plugin doesnt want to work.. you maybe wanna try the GNU flashplayer :) do "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree", "rm -fr ~/.mozilla" and then "apt-get install mozilla-plugin-gnash" :)
[08:47] <ice9> any tutorials for setting up domain controller using feisty and having winxp as clients
[08:47] <erUSUL> benzon: --reinstall then
[08:47] <lonran> hi everybody
[08:47] <murlidhar> MrPink: wait let me search
[08:47] <lonran> Sometimes my systems crashes and the only thing to do is to reboot it via power button. I think is an IRQ assigment problem due to ACPI. How can i fix it? Can i boot it with the noacpi option? how will then irq's be assigned?
[08:47] <dogg> hi lonran
[08:47] <bsund> it says it has support for youtube and most flash 7 stuff (which is most stuff)
[08:47] <Zombine> What's the name of the network manager app in GNOME?
[08:48] <Jimmey> bsund, it doesn't support Youtube anymore
[08:48] <benzon> erUSUL, thx tryed to change splash screen dident work to well hehe
[08:48] <Jimmey> bsund, It won't for a while, at least
[08:48] <erUSUL> benzon: no problem
[08:48] <dogg> can anyone tell me if i can use fluxbox gui with ubuntu??
[08:48] <bsund> Jimmey, ah :(
[08:48] <MrPink> thx
[08:48] <Jimmey> bsund, Youtube changed some things - It should work shortly though
[08:49] <UserC> does any one know if theres a way to run sapgui on ubuntu?
[08:49] <socialone75> can anyone help me with rshd?
[08:49] <Symmetria> hrm, what package do I need to install to get the standard include files that would normally be in /usr/include?
[08:50] <pike_> dogg: yes
[08:50] <mr_marvin> what is console command for "add/remove programs"?
[08:50] <dogg> pike_  how would i do this?
[08:50] <pike_> dogg: sudo apt-get install fluxbox    then just click the sessions button at login to login to it instead of gnome
[08:50] <pike_> dogg: usually if im using flux i dont use the gdm login though
[08:50] <dogg> o cool, thanks a lot
[08:50] <dogg> right
[08:50] <Jimmey> mr_marvin, sudo apt-get install packagename/sudo apt-get remove packagename/apt-cache search packagename
[08:51] <dogg> how do u log in then?
[08:51] <Jimmey> mr_marvin, that's for installing/removing/searching for packages, respectively
[08:51] <dogg> sorry, im a linux n00b
[08:51] <dogg> made the switch from windows
[08:51] <sandr> you're not alone, me too
[08:52] <MrPink> dogg I only switched from Windows to Linux like 3 weeks ago or so
[08:52] <pike_> dogg: i normally 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove' to stop gdm from running at boot then 'echo "exec startfluxbox" > ~/.xinitrc'  then just run xinit at cli to start x session with flux
[08:52] <mr_marvin> jimmey: thaks
[08:52] <MikeonTV> is there a  way to have it so ubuntu loads without entering any password or selecting any user. I am the sole user fo this machine and would like it if as soon as I power on my machine i can bypass the login screen
[08:52] <socialone75> if anyone knows anything about rsh login please send me a private message
[08:52] <MrPink> that is what I like about linux most... the community... its totally ok to ask "stupid" questions here :-D
[08:52] <pike_> dogg: dont do the updaterc.d unless youre sure you are comfortable swithcing it back
[08:52] <Jimmey> MikeonTV, System>Administration>Login Window
[08:52] <JohnnyJet> is it possible to free a program from a process which use it without killing the process itself ?
[08:52] <Dr_willis> MrPink,  and we only make a LITTLE fun of the person asking.. :)
[08:52] <JohnnyJet> s/program/soundcard/
[08:53] <Jimmey> MikeonTV, then click "Security"
[08:53] <dogg> ok, thanks 4 the help
[08:53] <pike_> dogg: to test it you can just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  and then do the xinit thing
[08:53] <MrPink> Dr_willis yeah only a little ;)
[08:53] <pike_> dogg: np
[08:53] <silent__> hey guys, how do I choose the playback device I want to use? I've tried the system control panel but VLC still plays out of my onboard instead of my audigy
[08:53] <JohnnyJet> let me try again, is it possible to free my soundcard from a process without having to kill the process itseld ?
[08:53] <dogg> ill be back in 10 mins to tell you if it worked
[08:53] <JohnnyJet> (sorry for repeating)
[08:53] <spinexorz> pike_: whats wrong with adding flux to GDM sessions?
[08:53] <MikeonTV> Jimmey: Thanks
[08:53] <Jimmey> silent__:, there's a way of specifying which soundcard to use by default, but I forget how to do it
[08:53] <mr_marvin> Jimmey: and how do i start gui for adding/removing?
[08:54] <ArseneLupin> please tell me step by step hwo to install my fast gsm (dsl) modem for the first time
[08:54] <pike_> spinexorz: nothing just normally if im running flux its because i want a leaner system. i just dont think of gdm as lean
[08:54] <silent__> Jimmey: I figured as much ;P
[08:54] <Jimmey> mr_marvin, System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[08:54] <Jimmey> silent__:, when you have a hardware and a chipset fighting for control of sound, you have to do a quick commandline hack to select which to use, but I can't remember it. It's on the forums somewhere - let me look for you
[08:54] <Otokonoko> bsund: gnash didn't work >_>
[08:54] <Otokonoko> bsund: Well, it did, but same problem
[08:55] <silent__> Jimmey: thanks, I'll try rebooting to see if there's an option in bios to turn off the onboard. brb
[08:55] <bsund> Otokonoko, wth
[08:55] <blaocha> hey
[08:55] <blaocha> i would like to setup the wikipedia on ubuntu server anybody can guide me please ?
[08:55] <Otokonoko> bsund: I've said the same thing, plus other... erm, spicier variations multiple times this morning
[08:56] <mr_marvin> Jimmey. and if i'm not logged as admin, but user. i "become" admin using "su" command in console, and what then?
[08:56] <blaocha> or any suggestions ?
[08:56] <bsund> Otokonoko, mandriva 2008 has come out :)
[08:56] <bsund> i dont know otherwise
[08:56] <Otokonoko> bsund: Meaning... what exactly?
[08:56] <MrPink> murlidhar did you find out where it is?
[08:56] <stinger05> hi there
[08:56] <Jimmey> mr_marvin, it's better to use the "sudo" command to gain admin privileges temporarily.
[08:57] <Jimmey> mr_marvin, for console applications, you can "sudo application name", and for graphical applications, you can "gksudo applicationname"
[08:57] <murlidhar> MrPink: no but strange i am now in chatzilla and it is working
[08:58] <bsund> Otokonoko, it's another dist that is easy and seen by many other as more mature then ubuntu, but boring having to give up ubuntu because flash doesnt work and nothings says it will work better on mandriva :)
[08:58] <stinger05> are the packages for playing music and watching dvd's with "feisty" compatible with "gutsy gibbons"??
[08:58] <mr_marvin> jimmey: ok.... i got it, btw "sudo synaptic" :/
[08:58] <eck> stinger05: yes
[08:58] <bsund> dont think mandriva has this badass community either
[08:58] <Jimmey> mr_marvin, like I say, it's better to "gksudo synaptic-package-manager"
[08:58] <MrPink> murlidhar when I press tab it switches the cursor through the different "frames" of the firefox browser
[08:58] <Otokonoko> bsund: True, true.
[08:58] <silent__> Jimmey: I got the onboard disabled through my bios, I'm going to try to play something through audigy
[08:58] <murlidhar> MrPink: just check the global settings
[08:58] <stinger05> ok thx dude :)
[08:59] <OleMoudi> gutsy here, is there any official kernel module for truecrypt support?
[08:59] <pike_> bsund: the flash9 plugin doesnt work?
[08:59] <Otokonoko> bsund: I suppose a roundabout solution would be to use vixy.net or a FF plugin to convert the videos then watch them in movie player.
[08:59] <Otokonoko> but that is a pain in the ass.
[08:59] <Jimmey> mr_marvin, oops...I mean "gksudo synaptic"
[08:59] <eck> OleMoudi: is it in the mainline kernel?
[08:59] <d90> Is possable to backup all isntalled programs, so when I reinstall ubuntu (if ever crushes :D ) I not going need to download it again becausecs
[08:59] <bsund> pike_, yeah Otokonoko have this problem that sound doesnt work but else it's fine
[08:59] <pike_> ah
[09:00] <OleMoudi> eck, I guess not
[09:00] <eck> OleMoudi: then probably not
[09:00] <OleMoudi> I have checked with modconf
[09:00] <Hilikus> how do i schedule user tasks that are guaranteed to run (i.e. not cron)
[09:00] <ArseneLupin> please tell me step by step hwo to install my fast gsm (dsl) modem for the first time
[09:00] <clowny> part #ubuntu
[09:00] <murlidhar> MrPink: with some names it is working with some it is not. strange
[09:00] <OleMoudi> eck, and is there any alternative to truecrypt ubuntu supports to allow mounting special volumes?
[09:00] <eck> Hilikus: have you tried anacron/fcron?
[09:00] <OleMoudi> I mean, volumes as in files, not partitions
[09:01] <spinexorz> ArseneLupin: what kind of modem do you have?
[09:01] <Jimmey> silent__, this makes your name kind of ironic
[09:01] <eck> OleMoudi: sure, you can already so something like mke2fs and then point it to a file instead of a partition, and mount that file as a separate filesystem
[09:01] <Hilikus> eck anacron is ment for root/system tasks, i couldnt find anything useful for USER tasks
[09:01] <silent__> Jimmey: hehe... I think its detecting it... but its not playing anything. I can't change the volume. I'm going to try to upgrade my alsa
[09:01] <spinexorz> ArseneLupin: what kind of modem do you have?
[09:01] <eck> OleMoudi: i'm not sure what the options are as far as encryption is concerned, but i know there are a few modules in the kernel for encrypted filesystems
[09:01] <Jimmey> silent__, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Sound - Scroll down to "how to change the default soundcard"
[09:01] <pike_> d90: dpkg -l > filename will create a file with all installed progs. you can then point to that file on a new system to have it install all the packages. im not sure though of the exact command
[09:02] <murlidhar> MrPink: perhaps this is because selecting guess unknown commands
[09:02] <mr_marvin> Jimmey: and how do i start add/remove window?
[09:02] <kst> are there any problems known with the usbhid module not accepting options for mousepolling? somehow my tweaks won't apply, no matter how I do it..
[09:02] <joviwood> 
[09:02] <OleMoudi> ok thanks eck
[09:02] <eck> Hilikus: you should still be able to do something like crontab -e and edit the user's crontab
[09:02] <spinexorz> ArseneLupin, i tried to help you
[09:02] <ArseneLupin> i have fast sagem 800 modem
[09:02] <Hilikus> eck, from wikipedia: Only the system administrator can configure anacron tasks. In contrast, cron allows non-admin users to configure scheduled tasks.
[09:02] <MrPink> murlidhar I have that selected
[09:02] <ompaul> !cn | joviwood
[09:02] <ubotu> joviwood: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[09:02] <Symmetria> urgh, anyone know off hand which ubuntu package contains the standard include files?
[09:03] <joviwood> uboto      thank u
[09:03] <Hilikus> eck from what i can tell, anacron will only run stuff in /etc/cron.* whereas crontab -e will put the tables in /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[09:03] <spinexorz> ArseneLupin, and i bet your using USB to connect it to your PC?
[09:03] <eck> Hilikus: i believe you can schedule tasks as a regular user in fcron
[09:03] <MrPink> lol
[09:03] <bsund> Otokonoko, if you run alsa mixer.. does everything seem ok?
[09:03] <Jimmey> mr_marvin, gnome-app-install
[09:03] <bsund> alsa-mixer
[09:03] <MrPink> ompaul no thanks for you ^^
[09:03] <MrPink> the bot did the work ;)
[09:03] <bsund> (from terminal)
[09:03] <spinexorz> ArseneLupin: dont, get an ethernet cable instead
[09:03] <Otokonoko> woharri@woharri-desktop:~$ alsa-mixer
[09:03] <Otokonoko> bash: alsa-mixer: command not found
[09:04] <bsund> sry alsamixer
[09:04] <bsund> :)
[09:04] <ArseneLupin> what ro u mean?
[09:04] <ArseneLupin> what do u mean?
[09:04] <Otokonoko> it looks like it, yes
[09:04] <Hilikus> eck is there a way to tell anacron to run stuff from /var/spool/cron/crontabs?
[09:04] <musashi> can anyone help me with a partitioning problem?
[09:04] <Otokonoko> card: HDA ATI SB
[09:04] <bsund> Otokonoko, both Master and PCM are activated?
[09:05] <Jimmey> !ask
[09:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:05] <eck> Hilikus: i don't know, i'm not that familiar with anacron
[09:05] <musashi> ug
[09:05] <musashi> i forgot
[09:05] <spinexorz> ArseneLupin: your ADSL is connected to the PC via USB cable right? i doubt there are drivers for modem for linux, what you need to do and it would make things alot easier is connect it via ethernet
[09:05] <Otokonoko> bsund: I can't see a "Master" option.
[09:05] <Otokonoko> bsund: PCM looks fine though.
[09:05] <mr_marvin> Jimmey: that's it. thank you.
[09:05] <MrPink> murlidhar I dont know if you saw my question a while ago, but why would you recommend me not installing Gutsy yet? Because of the many updates and the downloads, or more because the current downloadable version isn't stable ?
[09:05] <spinexorz> ArseneLupin: i meant drivers for THAT modem
[09:05] <musashi> my windows xp wont boot anymore, im getting an error that the boot location has changed
[09:05] <Jimmey> mr_marvin, you're welcome. Plus, my second name is Marvin....You're not my Dad, are you? :-P
[09:05] <musashi> i installed ubuntu before all this happened
[09:06] <Otokonoko> bsund: Chip = realtek alc861
[09:06] <musashi> i dont even know how to phrase this.
[09:06] <b4d> musashi: put in txe xp cd and run fixmbr from recovery console
[09:06] <musashi> but then ubuntu wont be accesable
[09:06] <shimizu> it will
[09:06] <bsund> Otokonoko, it's strange that's a very common soundchip
[09:06] <Jimmey> musashi, how did the problem occur?
[09:06] <Otokonoko> bsund: Yeah.
[09:06] <bsund> and still bugged somehow
[09:06] <musashi> i installed ubuntu on some unallocated space between my vista and xp partitions by mistake
[09:07] <murlidhar> MrPink: yes since i am not sure that all the problems in Gutsy will be solved automatically simply by auto updating it
[09:07] <MrPink> musashi the worst that will happen is that your grub boot loader wont work but its isn't to hard to fix that
[09:07] <musashi> i have vista and xp, though
[09:07] <Otokonoko> Whoa, there's a new one
[09:07] <Jimmey> musashi, does Vista still boot?
[09:07] <musashi> yes vista does
[09:07] <Otokonoko> I changed the default sound card, and now Totem doesn't work
[09:07] <spinexorz> ArseneLupin: any luck?
[09:08] <martinf> Can anyone help me with Virtualbox network settings?
[09:08] <MrPink> murlidhar aha... that truely is a reason... I was of the impression and that is what others have told me... that Gutsy would simply update... even from Feisty... so I expected that the Gutsy beta would update even easier...
[09:08] <b4d> musashi: is there any reason you run two windows?
[09:08] <markelhas> hi ppl i've a problem with my desktop, when i click on the right button of my mouse nothing happens and my icons also gone. how can i solve this?
[09:08] <musashi> well i dont like vista but i cant use an ethernet cable for internet in xp for some reason
[09:08] <Jimmey> musashi, did Ubuntu automatically create the Grub menu?
[09:08] <musashi> Jimmey: yea
[09:08] <murlidhar> MrPink: why don't u ask in #ubuntu+1 cuz i am not sure
[09:09] <Jimmey> musashi, and you didn't edit the menu.lst?
[09:09] <spinexorz> musashi: do you have your mobo drivers isntalled and up to date?
[09:09] <kane77> what are some wifi chipsets that do work with ubuntu? I currently have bcm4310 and I cannot get it to work propperly (mainly with wep/wpa)...
[09:09] <bsund> Otokonoko, http://www.opera.com/download/ try that browser
[09:09] <mr_marvi1> how to setup gaim to work with google? i really tried but no success...
[09:09] <musashi> i dont know what any of that means
[09:09] <bsund> it's a nice one :)
[09:09] <b4d> musashi: a text configuration file in ubuntu
[09:09] <spinexorz> musashi: thats probably why you cant use ethernet in XP
[09:10] <Otokonoko> bsund: First I have to figure out what I screwed up so that sound doesn't work PERIOD now.
[09:10] <musashi> i tried installing the ethernet network controller i think it was called but everything lagged so i took it off xp
[09:10] <trdracer> !azureus
[09:10] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[09:10] <murlidhar> MrPink: i will update my feisty by downloading  alternate cd and do it offline upgradation to gutsy
[09:10] <bsund> Otokonoko, yeah i feared that
[09:10] <davemlinux1> What for txt config if you dont mind
[09:10] <bsund> do rm ~/.asound*
[09:11] <Jimmey> mr_marvi1, where are you from?
[09:11] <bsund> do rm -f ~/.asound*
[09:11] <musashi> i have a picture of my partitioning from gparted i think that would help
[09:11] <Otokonoko> bsund: didn't work
[09:11] <Otokonoko> bsund: Gah.
[09:11] <musashi> i obviously didnt do it right
[09:11] <Jimmey> musashi, can you select XP from the boot menu?
[09:11] <mr_marvi1> montenegro
[09:11] <Otokonoko> bsund: Maybe I should just reinstall ubuntu lol
[09:11] <bsund> and sudo rm -f /etc/.asound*
[09:11] <Otokonoko> oh.
[09:11] <martinf> Anybody ever used Virtualbox ??
[09:12] <grunger> do I have to have x86_64 cds to install it on a core 2 duo laptop?
[09:12] <ArseneLupin> i saw some one usoing it martinf
[09:12] <ArseneLupin> that's rzeally cool
[09:12] <musashi> Jimmey: yes i can, it give me an error : <windows root> \system32\hal.dll
[09:12] <Otokonoko> bsund: No dice, once again.
[09:12] <Otokonoko> bsund: Boy I must have REALLY screwed something up.
[09:12] <Jimmey> musashi, that's a Windows problem
[09:12] <ArseneLupin> you switch the desktop and you have linux and windows at the same time
[09:12] <musashi> Jimmey: i googled it and it says that its from the position of XP changing from when it was installed
[09:12] <martinf> Any idea of who?
[09:12] <musashi> which occured from installing ubuntu...
[09:12] <Jimmey> musashi, did you re-size the XP partition during the installation of Ubuntu?
[09:13] <musashi> i shrunk my first partition and used that one for ubuntu, but the xp one was next to the first on prior, so it got shifted to the right
[09:14] <martinf> ArsenelLupin - I have a network problem using VB any ideas of a chat room that could help?
[09:14] <Jimmey> musashi, that's probably why, then - Did you defrag XP before all of this?
[09:14] <Jimmey> martinf, is that Visual Basic? Or Verse Blender?
[09:14] <musashi> Jimmey: no..
[09:15] <Otokonoko> bsund: error from Movie Player: The audio output is in use by another application. Please select another audio output in the Multimedia Systems Selector. You may want to consider using a sound server.
[09:15] <bsund> Otokonoko, i think if you remove ~/.asound* and /etc/asound* you should get sound back maybe need to reboot though
[09:15] <musashi> i have an idea ill be back if i fix it
[09:15] <anto_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:15] <anto_> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[09:15] <sandman_> hi, what video conference SW do you recommend in order to communicate with Windows machines?
[09:15] <anto_> Sorry about spamm but could somone explain how to fix that_
[09:16] <amadeux> Cutting and pasting in my feisty (Gnome) is suddenly broken. No matter what I copy, all it can paste is "". I don't want to end my session and log out, let alone reboot. How can I fix this? What component of gnome is responsible for this? Can't I just restart gnome without ending my session?
[09:16] <Otokonoko> bsund: Okay, I'll reboot, and if this doesn't work I'll just start with a fresh Ubuntu install and see if I can't fix the problem by trying some different steps.
[09:16] <bsund> kk
[09:16] <bsund> but the * in asound* is important :)
[09:16] <bsund> means everything thats starts with asound :)
[09:17] <bsund> the file is called asound.conf or summat
[09:17] <sandman_> is gnomemeeting capable to communicate with neetmeeting?
[09:17] <Otokonoko> bsund: I've done that command multiple times :P
[09:17] <bsund> ok :)
[09:17] <Otokonoko> Anyway, restart, brb
[09:18] <joviwood> 
[09:18] <MrPink> murlidhar yeah I downloaded the cd install too... but of the beta version you can download now... so maybe I should wait and redownload the main release cd version
[09:18] <silent__> oh my god that alsa compile took forever
[09:18] <ompaul> joviwood, ?
[09:18] <erUSUL> !cn | joviwood
[09:18] <ubotu> joviwood: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[09:19] <murlidhar> MrPink: apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:19] <joviwood> nobody in #ubuntu-cn channel
[09:19] <ompaul> joviwood, it is rather late there
[09:20] <jbish> anyone with experience with serial drivers
[09:20] <joviwood> here  3:20 am
[09:20] <Otokonoko> bsund: Well, sound works again...
[09:20] <bsund> k
[09:20] <bsund> try opera
[09:20] <joviwood> :-!
[09:20] <murlidhar> MrPink: u can always reinstall anything without any problems if you don't change the installation locations
[09:21] <bsund> http://www.opera.com/download/
[09:21] <Otokonoko> bsund: On it. Wanted to try FF one more time lol
[09:21] <amadeux> Cutting and pasting in my feisty (Gnome) is suddenly broken. No matter what I copy, all it can paste is "". I don't want to end my session and log out, let alone reboot. How can I fix this? What component of gnome is responsible for this? Can't I just restart gnome without ending my session?
[09:21] <bsund> but you got the gnash one installed? :)
[09:21] <Otokonoko> bsund: No, I purged it.
[09:21] <bsund> kk
[09:21] <lalala> any guru here in linux who can help ?
[09:22] <mr_marvin> jJimmey: lol. no i'm not. it's taken from adam's the hitchhiker's guide...
[09:22] <murlidhar> lalala: are u from india?
[09:22] <bsund> opera is a really nice browser though you could easily replace it with firefox until it gets fixed
[09:22] <lalala> close
[09:22] <lalala> im from Greece
[09:22] <bsund> firefox with it*
[09:22] <lalala> :)
[09:22] <murlidhar> ;)
[09:23] <Otokonoko> bsund: no dice
[09:23] <musashi> lalala: could you get back on msn please
[09:23] <bsund> did you try opera?
[09:23] <lalala> ok
[09:23] <Otokonoko> bsund: Yep.
[09:24] <bsund> insane problem
[09:24] <Otokonoko> bsund: Indeed.
[09:24] <Elite> Hai people.
[09:24] <bittin> Hi Elite
[09:24] <Elite> Wonder if you guys can help me...
[09:24] <bsund> so you get picture with no sound
[09:24] <Otokonoko> bsund: Yep.
[09:24] <kermit_dude> Hi! Anyone who knows any media player for hd videos?
[09:24] <markelhas> how can i save the gnome fail session setting to default one?
[09:25] <Dr_willis> kermit_dude,  Hmm i have a lot of avi files that claim to be 'hd' they play normally in all the players..
[09:25] <murlidhar> !help | Elite
[09:25] <ubotu> Elite: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:25] <Elite> I have an AOC M19W monitor, but everytime i try to switch the actual screen resolution it goes back to default... I want 1440x900 damnit =[
[09:25] <Dr_willis> kermit_dude,  play on the computer monitor at least. :) i dont have any HD tv's
[09:25] <sandman_> hi, what video conference SW do you recommend in order to communicate with Windows machines?
[09:25] <anto> Geezuz can somone help me fix my glx problem?
[09:26] <markelhas> should i've to do somethig special to save the gnome fail safe session setting to the default one?
[09:26] <Dr_willis> sandman_,  Irc. :)
[09:26] <murlidhar> Elite: change the resolution by using gconf editor
[09:26] <kermit_dude> I have these video files that I can watch on Windows with VLC but won't play in Ubuntu
[09:27] <skynexus_> _Andrew: hello, are you still there?
[09:27] <sandman_> ???
[09:27] <Elite> murlidhar: gconf doesn't come up when i type it in terminal.
[09:27] <bsund> Otokonoko, try reinstall maybe try mandriva 2008 to widen your view at the same time :) and then maybe try the new ubuntu that comes in a week :)
[09:28] <pupi120290> hello^^ i get this error wihile running ./configure:
[09:28] <pupi120290> configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[09:28] <murlidhar> Elite: srry it is not gconf it is something else that i am not able to remember , i will google it and tell u
[09:28] <Elite> got it
[09:29] <kermit_dude> I have these video files that I can watch on Windows with VLC but won't play in Ubuntu
[09:29] <Otokonoko> bsund: Well, I've got some cleaning to do, so I'll go ahead and do a fresh ubuntu install and see if that works.
[09:29] <Elite> murlidhar, I got it... now what?
[09:29] <erUSUL> kermit_dude: which type of files? avi wmv?
[09:29] <bsund> Otokonoko, kk damn annoying problem though
[09:29] <voidus> using gnome, i can make a "virtual folder" that is a ftp/samba connection, but i can't find this folder in the file system
[09:29] <trdracer> iptables v1.3.6: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root)
[09:29] <trdracer> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
[09:29] <esperegu> How can I set a static IP that won't get reset with dhcp when replugging the network cable??????
[09:29] <murlidhar> Elite: u have to edit xorg i dunno how
[09:29] <trdracer> whats that mean?
[09:30] <trdracer> what do i need for it to allow what im trying to do?
[09:30] <pupi120290> hello^^ i get this error wihile running ./configure:configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[09:30] <bsund> Otokonoko, did you try to enter a myspace site or something that just play sounds?
[09:30] <anto> Geezuz can somone help me fix my glx problem?
[09:30] <Alarien-Work> Are there any Gutsy Beta users that can assist with /dev/dsp busy?
[09:30] <bsund> but guess it's flash there to so..
[09:30] <murlidhar> Elite: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973 follow this
[09:30] <voidus> Alarien-Work: /join #ubuntu+1
[09:30] <kermit_dude> I got these mkv files,not avi or wmv
[09:31] <pupi120290> hello^^ i get this error wihile running ./configure:
[09:31] <pupi120290> configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[09:31] <kermit_dude> I got these mkv files,not avi or wmv
[09:31] <psyferre> hey folks, i'm a new ubuntu user with a weird little problem... my usb mouse just randomly stops working.  UNplugging the mouse and plugging it back in does nothing to help.  I've been googling and it seems to be a common problem somewhat, but i haven't seen an answer.  Can anyone help?
[09:32] <kermit_dude> I got these mkv files,not avi or wmv
[09:32] <benoit17> gillaume #ubuntu-fr
[09:33] <anto> Can somone explain why Glx is not loading at startup here is my xorg log http://pastebin.com/m6a7aaab
[09:33] <kane77> where do I get the wl_apsta.o file when installing bcm43xx-fwcutter??
[09:33] <macographer> is it possible to change a user's home directory to the apache webspace?
[09:34] <grunger> wow. how do I extract password protected rar files using "unrar" ?
[09:34] <saineyc2> 1s1efregfy
[09:34] <saineyc2> gfggg6t] 
[09:34] <kermit_dude> I got these mkv files,not avi or wmv
[09:34] <anto> Can somone explain why Glx is not loading at startup here is my xorg log http://pastebin.com/m6a7aaab
[09:35] <cedric30> Hi
[09:35] <Symmetria> heh kermit_dude those are h264 files
[09:35] <benoit17> ben17
[09:35] <Symmetria> play them with vlc
[09:35] <nicgios> hi all, does anyone know if it is possible to import audio from a sony MD to a pc (running ubuntustudio) ?
[09:35] <kermit_dude> i tried vlc but failed
[09:35] <oliver_g_> kermit_dude: yes those seem to be "Matroska" files (says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska)
[09:35] <Symmetria> then your vlc isnt built with h264 support
[09:36] <kermit_dude> so how can i play them with vlc?
[09:37] <daedra> anyone need help
[09:38] <_Andrew> skynexus_: yo
[09:38] <bsund> kermit_dude, sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:38] <cLINTo> there should be different channels for different topics
[09:38] <{Zeus}> that would be confusing
[09:38] <daedra> cLINTo: make one
[09:38] <cLINTo> the whole 30 conversations going on in one window isn't?
[09:38] <{Zeus}> lol...
[09:38] <cLINTo> lol
[09:39] <cLINTo> i guess
[09:39] <{Zeus}> well... it's hard to have many channels
[09:39] <daedra> cLINTo: if you're solving a problem for someone, invite them to your channe;
[09:39] <bsund> kermit_dude, if you already have vlc do "sudo apt-get install x264-bin"
[09:39] <daedra> channel*
[09:39] <cLINTo> well, actually, I'm having problems setting up grub properly
[09:40] <heaven> hey guyz
[09:40] <daedra> 8 days or something now
[09:40] <neowikkin> !splash
[09:40] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[09:40] <cLINTo> I have XP and Ubuntu and I just installed openSUSE
[09:40] <calcoos> hi can i ask for ics help here? :)
[09:40] <{Zeus}> yes
[09:40] <kane77> where do I get the wl_apsta.o file when installing bcm43xx-fwcutter??
[09:40] <skynexus_> _Andrew: hello there
[09:40] <cLINTo> I figured out how to get Ubuntu onto SUSE's grub list
[09:40] <{Zeus}> how do I make my own channel?
[09:40] <cLINTo> but when I boot into Ubuntu
[09:40] <skynexus_> _Andrew: just wanted to update on my progress
[09:40] <cLINTo> I get a filesystem error
[09:41] <{Zeus}> what is the erR?
[09:41] <skynexus_> _Andrews: I got the camera to work!
[09:41] <_Andrew> skynexus_: any luck?
[09:41] <calcoos> can i ask about internet connection sharing here? :P
[09:41] <_Andrew> yay!
[09:41] <Zina> bonsoir
[09:41] <cLINTo> I'll have to go check it out again
[09:41] <cLINTo> can't remember
[09:41] <{Zeus}> yes go ahead calcoos
[09:41] <skynexus_> _Andrew: the problem was that I was not using the latest driver
[09:41] <tracy> hey, how can i get a kernel installed that has the mac80211 built in, i'd like to try the iwl intel wireless drivers
[09:41] <cLINTo> if I hit control+d it boots
[09:41] <_Huntta> might be stupid question, but how to set password on GRUB??
[09:41] <pygi> hello
[09:41] <daedra> {Zeus}: type /j {Zeus}
[09:41] <_Andrew> calcoos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetConnectionSharing
[09:41] <daedra> bingo, you're the op of channelname {Zeus}
[09:42] <{Zeus}> it says "no such channel :(
[09:42] <calcoos> i wanna use my laptop as i wireless network card for my xbox as it can only connect through ethernet how do i do this? :D
[09:42] <cLINTo> @ _Huntta should be in menu.lst
[09:42] <pygi> intel pentium M, laptop overheating, Intel i815 ... anyone have any idea? :)
[09:42] <{Zeus}> what brand?
[09:42] <daedra> ah well you just suck then
[09:42] <{Zeus}> lol
[09:42] <Zina> theme.awn je sais pas que faire avec
[09:42] <tracy> pygi, you checked any fans havent burnt out?
[09:42] <{Zeus}> what laptop pygi?
[09:42] <daedra> !fr | Zina
[09:42] <ubotu> Zina: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:42] <_Andrew> skynexus_: ok, glad you got your camera working. I had real problems with mine.
[09:42] <pygi> {Zeus}, dont think you know it, forcebook
[09:43] <calcoos> i wanna use my laptop as i wireless network card for my xbox as it can only connect through ethernet how do i do this? :)
[09:43] <{Zeus}> ok... no I don't recognize it
[09:43] <_Huntta> Thaks!!
[09:43] <BillyBeans> hey , is there anything easier than dovecot to configure?
[09:43] <pygi> tracy, fans doesnt seem to be detected at all, and lm_sensors cant find any supported sensor which is weird
[09:43] <psyferre> anyone know why a usb mouse would continually just stop working?
[09:43] <_Andrew> calcoos: Read this link.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetConnectionSharing
[09:43] <{Zeus}> it works then stops?
[09:43] <calcoos> ty
[09:43] <tracy> pygi, anything in /proc/acpi/ etc
[09:43] <pygi> tracy, like what? Shoot, and I'll give you output
[09:43] <nameless`> hi
[09:43] <nameless`> what means "moa" ?
[09:43] <tracy> pastebin ls /proc/acpi/
[09:43] <{Zeus}> err.....
[09:44] <psyferre> {Zeus}: yup! works just fine and then suddenly just freezes.
[09:44] <skynexus_> _Andrew: I used the gspca-source package in Synaptic, but it was version 1.00.12; upon closer inspection, I noticed the needed header file was missing in the source code (compared it to the latest version, 1.00.18), so basically I downloaded, compiled and installed manually
[09:44] <psyferre> {Zeus}: keyboard works just fine, but i have to reboot to get mouse control back
[09:44] <{Zeus}> that's weird psyferre
[09:44] <{Zeus}> does restarting X (logout/login) fix the problem?
[09:44] <voidus> using gnome, i made a "virtual folder" that is a ftp/samba connection, but i can't find this folder in the file system
[09:44] <kermit_dude> i just installed x264-bin but the files won't play
[09:44] <oliver_g_> psyferre: maybe the system log says something about mouse problems=
[09:45] <psyferre> {Zeus}: i'm not sure... i just tried that but it never finished logging out... had to cold boot
[09:45] <pygi> tracy, http://pastebin.com/mc1028b5
[09:45] <oliver_g_> psyferre: ... have you looked at the output from dmesg?
[09:45] <BillyBeans> does anyone have dovecot setup for ubuntu?
[09:45] <Ubersoldat> voidus: duh! because its virtual
[09:45] <daedra> psyferre: just after booting, type dmesg|tail in command prompt
[09:45] <_Andrew> skynexus_: If you got the time you should file a bug report at launchpad.net and make sure it doesn't happen in Gutsy
[09:45] <pygi> tracy, http://pastebin.com/m3629552f
[09:45] <psyferre> oliver_g_: no, but that's a good idea.  I'll do that.  Thanks!
[09:45] <voidus> Ubersoldat: so no way to use it in any program except gnome?
[09:45] <kermit_dude> i just installed x264-bin but the files won't play
[09:46] <tracy> pygi, doesnt look like a software problem if all that is in there, do the fans work on another OS / Live CD
[09:46] <Ubersoldat> voidus: yep... I feel your pain
[09:46] <daedra> give me an obscure video filetype and I'll play it
[09:46] <pygi> tracy, afaik, it started overheating after 2.6.20 kernel
[09:46] <bXi> can i somehow see what version a certain kernel module is?
[09:46] <pygi> tried several distros
[09:46] <oliver_g_> just guessing, but shouldn't the automatic codec downloader find the correct codecs for .mkv files?
[09:46] <{Zeus}> i guess...
[09:46] <BillyBeans> please anyone, does anyone have dovecot installed on ubuntu?
[09:46] <smultron> i have an old USB1.1 Buslink harddrive enclosure. it shows up in the Hardware Information app as "usb device", but It doesn't mount at all
[09:46] <oliver_g_> bXi: try modinfo
[09:47] <daedra> bXi: wait there i'll get my big linux book out :D
[09:47] <heaven> relax i still got a 45 GB floppy (some other partition) that i cant use
[09:47] <oliver_g_> bXi: also sometimes the modules print their version info in the system log (dmesg) when load them
[09:47] <pygi> tracy, nothing in /proc/acpi/fan o.O
[09:47] <daedra> in rainbows :D
[09:47] <e\ectro_> is anyone using ubuntu as an LDAP client?
[09:47] <{Zeus}> smultron: can you see it in Places > Computer?
[09:47] <wuber1> ciao
[09:48] <tracy> pygi, thats not uncommon
[09:48] <linenoise> so there's GOT to be a better way to automount usb drives than messing with /etc/rc.d/rc.autofs
[09:48] <linenoise> I just want the drive mounted to the same mountpoint every time.  That's it.
[09:48] <smultron> {Zeus}: nope, but it shows up as "Buslink USB device" in the Hardware Information thing
[09:48] <calcoos> /#ubuntu
[09:48] <{Zeus}> linenoise, if you want a drive mounted to a directory, the best way is through /etc/fstab
[09:48] <skynexus_> _Andrew: Gutsy has version 1.00.16, have not bothered to install it yet so don't know if that would be a problem
[09:48] <jonathanv> why does my dell latitude d630 hate ubuntu?
[09:49] <linenoise> {Zeus}: yeah, but what I fi plug it into a different port every time?
[09:49] <wuber1> ola raga....
[09:49] <{Zeus}> linenoise: i don'
[09:49] <{Zeus}> *don't know... i guess you could make a mount point for each USB port
[09:49] <oliver_g_> linenoise: theoretically you could make a udev rule for the drive...
[09:49] <linenoise> and what the HELL is a UUID?  why the hell do I need to know a 40 bit random string?
[09:49] <Dr_willis> !uuid
[09:49] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:49] <Dr_willis> time to do some reading on the topic and less ranting.
[09:50] <IHK> hi, i have installed parallels on my comp, but when i try to run parallels-config i keep getting the error "Unable to find linux kernel source", i have tried to apt-get almost everything i have seen on the web, but i cant get it to work, anyone knows what i should do?
[09:50] <_Andrew> skynexus_: Ah, nevermind i'm sure they've fixed it if its been updated
[09:50] <daedra> hmm theres got to be a module equivalent of ldd
[09:50] <linenoise> yeah, time to install an OS that doesn't require me to jump through these kinds of hoops
[09:50] <Dr_willis> linenoise,  whtever.. have fun.
[09:50] <daedra> ldd lists the library types/versions
[09:50] <daedra> mdd?
[09:50] <shimizu> linenoise, try gentoo
[09:50] <oliver_g_> daedra: is it _mandatory_ that a module has version info embedded?
[09:50] <afterlife> ciao a tutti
[09:51] <skynexus_> _Andrew: ironically, my friend remenbered he too had a web camera when I told him I finally got mine to work; so when I tried it out, it worked out of the box, and with much better picture (no flicker for example)
[09:51] <kermit_dude> thanks for the suggestions...gtg
[09:51] <linenoise> wtf?  why isn't autofs using blkid to do this shit for me?
[09:51] <kermit_dude> thanks for the suggestions...gtg
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | linenoise
[09:51] <ubotu> linenoise: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:51] <linenoise> shimizu: is Shimizu your surname?
[09:51] <wuber1> ciao ragazzi
[09:51] <_Andrew> skynexus_: haha, oh well.. least you know you can get yours to worlk
[09:51] <_Andrew> work**
[09:51] <daedra> oliver_g_: someone asked a question about module versions
[09:51] <Dr_willis> My Usb Gizmos always seem to appear under the same place - based on their "label"
[09:52] <shimizu> linenoise, no it's my nickname
[09:52] <frojnd> Does anyone know where will other countries be able to buy dell inspiron 1420 N   ?   And if Dell is in general good choice for laptop with ubuntu?
[09:52] <daedra> daedra: i want to know too!
[09:52] <skynexus_> _Andrew: I'll be using his and return mine, quality sucks :-)
[09:52] <frojnd> where = when
[09:52] <shimizu> is there any who tryed to run second life on feisty
[09:52] <yaser> please urgent help!!! I need to quickly  umount an ssh filesystem, i do "sudo umount /media/mydev" but it says "device is busy", what can i do to umount at any price????
[09:52] <IHK> anyone knows why parallels-config keeps saying "Unable to find linux kernel source"?? even though i have already installed it, and everything that looks like it..??
[09:53] <linenoise> yaser: lsof /media/mydev
[09:53] <Dr_willis> yaser,  theres a --force option. Or just reboot. :)
[09:53] <shimizu> IHK, what does google say about ur problem... Oo
[09:53] <_Andrew> skynexus_: It sounds like its a cheapo cam which is why I can understand theres not much support for it working out of the box
[09:53] <linenoise> yaser: kill the thing it's telling you is using that file system
[09:53] <wuber1> non esiste una chat in itaiano?
[09:53] <yaser> Dr_willis, reboot not an option
[09:53] <linenoise> reboot?
[09:53] <IHK> it says to apt-get a lot of stuff i have apt-get'ed
[09:53] <linenoise> really?
[09:53] <IHK> and installed
[09:53] <IHK> but doesn't help
[09:53] <yaser> linenoise, i cant kill that process, i need it to keep running
[09:53] <Dr_willis> yaser,  "what can i do to umount at any price????"
[09:53] <linenoise> yaser: then you can't unmount it
[09:54] <Dr_willis> has the machine it ssh'd to crashed?
[09:54] <yaser> Dr_willis, well may be i exagerated a little,:-)
[09:54] <IHK> cant remember it all, about 5 things i should apt-get, which requied a lot of other things which gave several packages in all
[09:54] <L0GAN> hi, im trying to prep my usb stick and I follow the steps
[09:54] <wuber1> nessuno mi caga....
[09:54] <skynexus_> _Andrew: agree with you completely; though it is still critical to have the latest updates of those drivers in the repository since a lot can happen between releases
[09:54] <BillyBeans> how do i uninstall a package with apty-get?
[09:54] <Dr_willis> log out that user. see if frees up the mountpoint
[09:54] <BillyBeans> i mean apt-get
[09:54] <linenoise> yaser: So, you won't kill the process that is preventing you from unmounting the drive?
[09:54] <yaser> Dr_willis, it happens to me when several process use sshfs
[09:54] <L0GAN> im at step 2, but the unmount command cannot be found
[09:54] <phaedra> !it |wuber1
[09:54] <shimizu> BillyBeans, try synaptic.. why do u need to bother with apt-get
[09:54] <ubotu> wuber1: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:54] <linenoise> logging out will not free up the mountpoint
[09:54] <yaser> linenoise, other important process are using it
[09:55] <socialone75> anyone know anything about the rexec process?
[09:55] <BillyBeans> is it apt-get uninstall
[09:55] <wuber1> grazie ubotu
[09:55] <linenoise> yaser: those processes are hosed anyway if you manage to unmount that filesystem
[09:55] <oliver_g_> BillyBeans: try apt-get remove
[09:55] <voidus> BillyBeans: apt-get remove
[09:55] <BillyBeans> thanks
[09:55] <shimizu> yaser , unmount is like u pull device out of pc... there is no way to keep proccess on it and unmount
[09:55] <oliver_g_> BillyBeans: or apt-get purge (if you also want to remove all config files etc. of that package)
[09:56] <yaser> linenoise, lsof doesnt work with fuse
[09:56] <yaser> line72, thats what it says
[09:56] <skynexus_> _Andrew: I believe the problem is that certain kinds of packages really should be updated often, but this is typically never the case in practice
[09:56] <linenoise> uhm....  what?
[09:56] <_Andrew> skynexus_: Agreed
[09:56] <oliver_g_> yaser: maybe fuser works, instead of lsof?
[09:56] <yaser> shimizu, its a remote drive, "umount"has a relative sense here
[09:56] <yaser> oliver_g_, wich syntax?
[09:57] <daedra> oliver_g_: lsmod is the command!
[09:57] <linenoise> yaser: what do you mean lsof doesn't work?
[09:57] <shimizu> yaser, no chance to hold it for a while so u can mount it ? no suggestions then :(
[09:57] <oliver_g_> yaser: fuser /mount/whatever
[09:57] <daedra> only you can't anything with it
[09:57] <linenoise> yaser: nevermind I get it
[09:57] <delsolito> Hi all
[09:57] <oliver_g_> daedra: hmm
[09:57] <oliver_g_> daedra: does lsmod show the versions?
[09:58] <skynexus_> _Andrew: what is even more frustrating is that later versions that are needed is sometimes only available in the next release of Ubuntu, a few months away at times :-(
[09:58] <yaser>  oliver_g_ :Transport endpoint is not connected
[09:58] <BillyBeans> whats a good pop3 server?
[09:58] <bXi> !ati
[09:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:58] <BillyBeans> i have postfix setup, now i need a good pop3 server
[09:58] <oliver_g_> yaser: is that what fuser says?
[09:58] <yaser> oliver_g_, thats the ouput with fuser /media/dev
[09:59] <oliver_g_> yaser: is the file system still mounted and accessible?
[09:59] <daedra> daedra: no
[09:59] <yaser> oliver_g_, and thats the error my processes are giving too
[09:59] <yaser> oliver_g_, no
[09:59] <visik7> anyone has a jaiku invite ?
[09:59] <daedra> oliver_g_: no
[09:59] <Alarien-Work> Are there future plans to allow /dev/dsp to not be monopolized by system sounds?
[09:59] <daedra> why do I always msg myself
[09:59] <yaser> oliver_g_, well some folder do
[09:59] <oliver_g_> yaser: ah ok, hadn't followed all discussion...
[10:00] <daedra> ive got irc schizophrenia
[10:00] <psyferre> hey guys, finally got a dmesg output for my weird "mouse stops working" problem
[10:00] <skynexus_> _Andrew: I'll try to file a bug report in launchpad, but don't really see much point for the reasons mentioned (I anticipate the reply "upgrade to Gutsy in a couple of weeks")
[10:00] <Alarien-Work> I understand legacy OSS applications needing this, but ubuntu is under active development and should be able to change
[10:00] <oliver_g_> yaser: so if the remote host is no longer reachable, you won't be able to unmount "cleanly" (i guess)
[10:00] <_Andrew> skynexus_: Yes, it can be annoying at times, but its ubuntu policy to only fix security flaws
[10:00] <skynexus_> _Andrew: oh, that explains it... didn't know that :-)
[10:01] <psyferre> last lines in dmesg sayusb 1-7.3: USB disconnect
[10:01] <yaser> oliver_g_, i want to unmount at any price(except rebooting) then if i mount again all will be fine
[10:01] <visik7> Alarien-Work: is a "feature" of oss you can use aoss to wrap oss application in to alsa
[10:01] <psyferre> usb 1-8: new low speed usb device using ohci_hcd and address 8
[10:01] <yaser> oliver_g_, i have done a number of time but this time it says: device is busy and doent umount
[10:01] <daedra> oliver_g_: what interests me is that you need only update your modules manually if you are compiling a new kernel version
[10:01] <oliver_g_> yaser: I still do not completely understand :-) Do you suspect that the mount is "broken" or "corrupted"?
[10:01] <yaser> oliver_g_, yea
[10:01] <skynexus_> _Andrew: since I have installed gutsy in another computer, I'll check if the version in synaptic is up to date and file a bug report if necessary
[10:01] <oliver_g_> yaser: ah ok
[10:02] <psyferre> usb 1-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[10:02] <yaser> oliver_g_, i can acces some folders and not others
[10:02] <Alarien-Work> visik7: can ESD/Pulse be wrapped to use ALSA then?
[10:02] <psyferre> input: USB mouse as /class/input/input8
[10:02] <yaser> oliver_g_, umount has a kind of force option?
[10:02] <oliver_g_> yaser: iirc there's a "force" option for umount... might work but might also make things worse :-)
[10:02] <shimizu> any suggestion how to set up microphone work so i can use teamspeak
[10:02] <shimizu> ))
[10:02] <yaser> oliver_g_, ok let me see
[10:02] <crow> Hi is hibernate/suspend working on ubuntu (need it for laptop)
[10:02] <_Andrew> skynexus_: Sure, infact all you really need to do is to tell them to upgrade the deb file
[10:02] <kane77> should I have bcm43xx in /etc/modules if I want to run fwcutter??
[10:02] <psyferre> input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [usb mouse]  on usb-0000:00:0b.0-8
[10:03] <visik7> Alarien-Work: esd use alsa and oss
[10:03] <visik7> Alarien-Work:  I dunno pulse
[10:03] <visik7> Alarien-Work: anyway     try yourself   aoss <program that use oss>
[10:03] <oliver_g_> daedra: what do you mean? or: what is the question? ;-)
[10:04] <Alarien-Work> pulse is the gutsy replacement for  esd (specfically pulseaudio-esound-compat)
[10:04] <skynexus_> _Andrew: in launchpad? and if the needed file is in there, should I then not tell them to update? (I mean, synaptic has version 1.00.16 while 1.00.18 is out... if it works for me, should anyone bother with an update?)
[10:04] <Alarien-Work> visik7: I'm aware of how to use aoss, It would just be nice to not have the system sounds monopolizing /dev/dsp
[10:04] <jonathanv> argh
[10:04] <oliver_g_> daedra: about the version (the question from someone else 200 pages further up...): i guess the modules don't always have version info, and so you can't get the version with a tool
[10:05] <Inspiron_GL> xubuntu will be released in the same day as ubuntu?
[10:05] <daedra> not a question more of a speculation
[10:05] <JOAN> TEST
[10:05] <oliver_g_> daedra: you can get some info with modinfo, but it's lacking some module-specific version info
[10:05] <daedra> its useful to know module versions when buildin a kernel
[10:05] <_Andrew> skynexus_: Well, you could always launch a bug, "Please update blahblah to version 1.00.18"
[10:05] <trdracer> how is it that i do this > http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/NAT_problem#Port_Forwarding_on_Linux.2C_specifically_Ubuntu
[10:06] <trdracer> ive tried and i dont seem to be doing it correctly.
[10:06] <mycha202> jest ktos z polski??
[10:06] <L0GAN> i try to make run from usb stick
[10:06] <L0GAN> but now /dev/sda says permission denied
[10:06] <L0GAN> :(
[10:06] <BillyBeans> is anyone in hear good with mail servers?
[10:06] <visik7> Alarien-Work: if you use aoss the application will not use /dev/dsp
[10:06] <cydomm> !!!!!!!!
[10:06] <daedra> ooh modinfo seems to do the trick
[10:06] <L0GAN> is there no script to make ubuntu run from usb stck?
[10:06] <kane77> !doesnt work | trdracer
[10:06] <ubotu> trdracer: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:06] <visik7> Alarien-Work: but will go through alsa
[10:07] <oliver_g_> daedra: as I see it there are two versions for a module: the module-specific version (like, for the out-of-tree webcam driver i use, the developer has an own version schema); and there's rge kernel version (I think that's the vermagic entry in modinfo output)
[10:07] <CorpusCallosum> i am using gutsy beta and want to an IDE for C++ and LEDA for sensor network and graph algortihms, is there anyone have an idea how i can install ? or any documentation?
[10:07] <skynexus_> _Andrew: ok; by the way, why is gspca provided as source code only? why not pre-compiled? it makes a big difference in usability (wrt installation) to regular users...
[10:07] <SoulCarrier> macd u there?
[10:07] <daedra> yeah
[10:07] <L0GAN> running from live cd now
[10:07] <daedra> but not all fields are always filled in
[10:08] <trdracer> psh kane77 you know what i mean why does everyone want to be a smart ass
[10:08] <OM1136> someone point me to instruction for samba printing from 1 ubuntu box to another, please?
[10:08] <_Andrew> skynexus_: afraid I had no idea what you just said.. ^_^
[10:08] <yaser> oliver_g_, umount -f option doesnt work, if i "ps -e | grep sshd" i dont see anything, how can i umoutn the filesystem, should i kill fuse?
[10:08] <jonathanv> goddamnit, fuck you xorg.conf
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | jonathanv
[10:08] <ubotu> jonathanv: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:09] <Alarien-Work> jonathanv wow
[10:09] <jonathanv> i retract nothing
[10:09] <L0GAN> anyone have some sugestion?
[10:09] <kane77> trdracer, what part of that doesn't work?
[10:09] <daedra> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:09] <Alarien-Work> jonathanv: What is wrong with your config file?
[10:09] <daedra> ITS MAGIC
[10:10] <Flare183> Still can't get the water effect to work
[10:10] <Flare183> on beryl
[10:10] <skynexus_> _Andrew: the gspca driver is available through the gspca-source package, which only delivers the source code... you then need to open a terminal and run a couple of commands (compile, install) before you can use your camera; what I meant was, why is it not delivered pre-compile? there is probably a good technical reason for that though...
[10:10] <L0GAN> im considering switch from windows to ubuntu
[10:10] <SoulCarrier> macd tell me when u are there
[10:10] <trdracer> kane77: well the application azureus is up and running..its the port forwarding im having trouble with
[10:10] <yaser> can i rmmod fuse and load it again?
[10:10] <trdracer> kane77: ive already configured my router to allow it...now i just need to configure iptables
[10:11] <trdracer> or whatever it is
[10:11] <oliver_g_> heh, try the new displayconfig-gtk stuff in gutsy - that's pure genius (I have been able to get my very first arch-nemesis-like 14" monitor to work, which didn't work under windows - wheeee)
[10:11] <BillyBeans> is courier easy to setup?
[10:11] <kane77> trdracer, I understand, but did the first two commands work?
[10:11] <_Andrew> skynexus_: Oh right. I have no idea why that is, but that shouldn't happen. The deb package should at least build it for you
[10:11] <trdracer> kane77: no i get this error.
[10:11] <oliver_g_> yaser: sure, you can try to rmmod fuse...
[10:11] <trdracer> holf
[10:11] <trdracer> hold
[10:11] <pierre__> hi
[10:11] <_Andrew> skynexus_: That sounds like a problem right there
[10:11] <oliver_g_> yaser: but i suppose the rmmod will fail
[10:12] <trdracer> robert@robert-desktop:~$    /sbin/iptables -I INPUT 1 -i eth0 -p udp --dport 5569 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
[10:12] <trdracer> iptables v1.3.6: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root)
[10:12] <trdracer> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
[10:12] <yaser> oliver_g_, true it failed
[10:12] <daedra> !paste | trdracer
[10:12] <ubotu> trdracer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:13] <macd> SoulCarrier, uep
[10:13] <skynexus_> _Andrew: ok, I'll install it in gutsy later and see how it works out... if I see the same behaviour I'll file a bug report in launchpad, and mention that they should update the version in the same report while at it
[10:13] <yaser> oliver_g_, is there any thing i can do to umount the damn filesystem withot reboot?
[10:13] <oliver_g_> yaser: now that must be a common theme today :-) but: maybe dmesg says something useful?
[10:13] <Flare183> !gusty
[10:13] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[10:13] <_Andrew> !pastbin | _Andrew
[10:13] <Flare183> slow bot
[10:13] <_Andrew> !pastebin
[10:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:13] <oliver_g_> (oh well... people must think i have a dmesg-fetish...)
[10:13] <oliver_g_> :-)
[10:14] <yaser> oliver_g_, never used dmesg
[10:14] <Flare183> I can't spell
[10:14] <oliver_g_> yaser: it gives you last few thousand kernel messages
[10:14] <Flare183> trdracer:> you need to use sudo
[10:14] <oliver_g_> yaser: best run it throug "tail": dmesg | tail
[10:14] <trdracer> Flare183: and how do i use sudo how i need to?
[10:15] <trdracer> scguy318 is always helping me thuroughly but hes not around
[10:15] <graelb> #css
[10:15] <skynexus_> _Andrew: on a similar topic, just wanted to mention that it would be nice if there was somekind of application that could recognize USB devices when connected and checked it against a database so that it could inform the user on how to proceed
[10:15] <yaser> oliver_g_, it doesnt says nothing about
[10:15] <Flare183> trdracer:> sudo gives you root privlagies* (*sp) and lets you do stuff that normally can't a regular user
[10:15] <Flare183> !root
[10:15] <trdracer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40201/plain/ <000 are the commands ive tried.
[10:16] <Flare183> slow bot
[10:16] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:16] <Flare183> see trdracer
[10:16] <Flare183> !root | trdracer
[10:16] <ubotu> trdracer: please see above
[10:16] <skynexus_> _Andrew: the database could contain information on availble driver, or homepage of some driver project, or forum where the particular device is discussed as a last resort
[10:16] <_Andrew> skynexus_: I'd personally just like a database of hardware that works with Ubuntu
[10:16] <frojnd> I'm trying ot configure my rt61 wifi driver properly by this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29  If I take down ra0 and configure it by this tutorial and if something goes wrong how can I make my previous ra0 work ??
[10:16] <SoulCarrier> um macd ok so it worked and booted up the system and when i try to select high graphics it says it cant
[10:16] <trdracer> oh gawd why does everyone send me there..that makes things much more difficult on me
[10:16] <yaser> oliver_g_, but you know, i still dont believe linux doesnt has i kind of tool to kill or a least know why is the device busy
[10:16] <SoulCarrier> macd cuase i wanna look at the cube feature and stuff
[10:16] <trdracer> im sure some of you have gone through this problem i see no reason why you cant help me...
[10:16] <trdracer> oh well
[10:17] <trdracer> that wiki doesnt help me it confuses me more
[10:17] <oliver_g_> yaser: I have no other ideas (not that i had much to start with :) but maybe the people in ##fuse can help?
[10:17] <macd> SoulCarrier, are you using the livecd? or are you installed now?
[10:17] <SoulCarrier> livecd
[10:17] <Flare183> trdracer:> just type sudo <command name>
[10:17] <Flare183> !livecd
[10:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[10:17] <SoulCarrier> macd im usin the live cd
[10:17] <trdracer> Flare183: and what is the command name?
[10:17] <trdracer> im new to this bro..
[10:18] <trdracer> i dont know how this all works yet..
[10:18] <judgen> where cn i find the sparc iso of ubuntu
[10:18] <trdracer> i just know if i type the right commands i get what i need
[10:18] <Flare183> trdracer:> the thing that you mentioned above I think it was iptables maybe
[10:18] <stoffer> hi, which channel should I use for questions on nvidia+gutsy ?
[10:18] <trdracer> so sudo (then what i typed before)?
[10:18] <trdracer> oh ok
[10:18] <oliver_g_> yaser: the device is probably busy because some application still has a file open on the filesystem
[10:18] <Flare183> trdracer:> exactly
[10:18] <oliver_g_> yaser: and usually lsof and fuser tell you which apps have which files open
[10:18] <trdracer> Flare183:  well why didnt you just say that :)
[10:18] <trdracer> :P
[10:19] <oliver_g_> yaser: only, if these tools fail, you're out of luck
[10:19] <Flare183> trdracer:> well i didn't know you where new
[10:19] <graelb> Hi there, is there some reason Beryl spontaniously makes some of my unminimized windows black, then when i full-screen that window, and return it to normal, it goes back to normal?
[10:19] <trdracer> Flare183: /me is a n00b
[10:19] <trdracer> but trying to get into this
[10:19] <trdracer> ill be preferring this over windows
[10:19] <yaser> oliver_g_, ok you have been of great help, thanks for your dedication
[10:19] <OM1136> someone point me to instruction for samba printing from 1 ubuntu box to another, please?
[10:19] <dogg> since gusty gibbon is coming this month, is there any point in getting windows vista?
[10:20] <Flare183> trdracer:> yeah me too any day. Windows is a bad omen in the linux world
[10:20] <trdracer> Flare183: can i pm you these errors i get?
[10:20] <Flare183> yeah join #shstech
[10:20] <macd> SoulCarrier, well, to get hardware acceleration for your video (needed for all the nifty compiz stuff) you really want to install
[10:20] <macd> dogg, of course not ;)
[10:20] <dogg> hehe
[10:20] <SoulCarrier> ok ty macd
[10:21] <dogg> its nice to see that people boycott windows
[10:21] <dogg> it is a goof thing
[10:21] <dogg> *good
[10:21] <oliver_g_> *freud is calling*
[10:21] <oliver_g_> :-)
[10:22] <doktoreas> is there a wayt for limit the memory used by apache?
[10:22] <dogg> does anyone know the release date of gusty gibbon?
[10:22] <oliver_g_> dogg: 18. oct of course!
[10:22] <oliver_g_> duh ;-)
[10:22] <dogg> ah ok
[10:22] <jussi01> !release
[10:22] <erUSUL> dogg: have you checked www.ubuntu.com??
[10:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:22] <skynexus_> _Andrew: sure, but I think it would be even better with a dialogue that popped up and said "Hello, it looks like you just connected webcam XX, you need to install YY before you can use it - would you like to install YY now?"
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[10:22] <dgjones> !ops
[10:22] <ubotu> USE !OPS ONLY IN EMERGENCIES! - Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[10:22] <erUSUL> !ops
[10:22] <macd> doktoreas, you can tune the apache server, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html
[10:22] <_Andrew> too late
[10:23] <Andeh> Hello
[10:23] <_Andrew> Hi
[10:23] <oliver_g_> skynexus_: that would be a nice feature, yes
[10:23] <Andeh> I just installed ubuntu
[10:23] <Andeh> I am not new to this
[10:23] <oliver_g_> skynexus_: maybe file a bug report for this?
[10:23] <Andeh> I built a dual core PC and installed windows (gasp) and now I installed ubuntu on it
[10:23] <Andeh> And ubuntu boots up
[10:23] <_Andrew> skynexus_: TBH it would be better if it just automatically happened
[10:23] <dogg> erUSUL: ah right, big logo on ubuntu.com pagr "8 days to go"!
[10:23] <Andeh> Oh never mind
[10:24] <Andeh> X wasn't loading for like 2 minutes
[10:24] <Lakitu7> Hello. After trying to use the Main Menu editor in Gnome, Gnome seems to have broken. Selecting ANYTHING from the menu results in "could not launch menu item"
[10:24] <Andeh> it did though
[10:24] <Andeh> ;D thanks
[10:24] <L0GAN> oh well, i dont seem to have any permissions on live to make ubuntu on an usb disk
[10:24] <L0GAN> well im back to windows
[10:24] <Andeh> One thing though. My ADSL modem only has one ethernet output cable.
[10:24] <Andeh> I'll buy a router soon
[10:25] <oliver_g_> L0GAN: from my experience it's somewhat difficult to make a bootable usb stick; and doing this from live cd might be even more work
[10:25] <Andeh> but for now, i'm stuck with only one internet at a time
[10:25] <Andeh> oliver_g_: lol he left
[10:25] <Bo^Dick> hi
[10:25] <oliver_g_> Andeh: yeah I type too slowly or people are just too hasty ;-)
[10:25] <erUSUL> doktoreas: check /etc/security/limits.conf  maybe you can tweak something there
[10:25] <Bo^Dick> why does xwindows crash on the low latency kernel?
[10:26] <Andeh> hehe
[10:26] <Andeh> Another reason I love linux
[10:26] <Andeh> I just installed on another machine, all I need to do now is copy over my home folder.
[10:26] <Andeh> And my lovely 500 GB hard disk will come in handy
[10:26] <Andeh> external, and only 100 euro
[10:26] <Andeh> ;D
[10:26] <Andeh> really fast too
[10:26] <Andeh> lol
[10:27] <Bo^Dick> Andeh: have you ever tried the low latency kernel?
[10:28] <hoa3r> oops wohl den slash vegessen
[10:28] <Andeh> Bo^Dick: Nope ;D
[10:28] <_Andrew> skynexus_: I'm going to get something to eat, i'll talk to you later
[10:28] <Andeh> I did try some quirky patched kernel for speed
[10:29] <Acoustyk> How do I make shortcuts in Ubuntu?
[10:29] <runemaste644> I have a Gutsy virtual machine, but the VBox guest additions messed it up
[10:29] <Acoustyk> im trying to make one on my desktop for my documents folder on my ntfs partition
[10:29] <marko-_-> why the printer on ubuntu won't work
[10:29] <hoa3r> achso
[10:29] <marko-_-> that is the printer
[10:29] <marko-_-> HP
[10:29] <marko-_-> deskjet 840c
[10:29] <marko-_-> please help
[10:29] <hoa3r> kennen nur mit alt
[10:29] <marko-_-> it's a emergency
[10:29] <marko-_-> :s
[10:29] <runemaste644> Ive got an emergency too
[10:30] <marko-_-> well
[10:30] <Bo^Dick> are the low latency kernel only supported by 64-bit ubuntu?
[10:30] <judgen> Anyone has experiences with wubi?
[10:30] <judgen> !wubi
[10:30] <marko-_-> we have a test tomorow and i don't know nothing and the teacher hates me and i must print someting to help me by my test
[10:30] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[10:30] <marko-_-> :>
[10:31] <BillyBeans> how do i find out my usergroup?
[10:31] <Andeh> marko-_-: LOL. Same here. Except for the printing part. And the teacher hating me.
[10:31] <Bo^Dick> i'm running 32-bit ubuntu
[10:31] <Bo^Dick> feisty
[10:31] <erUSUL> BillyBeans: System>Admin>User and groups
[10:31] <psyferre> arrrg.  Anyone have any idea why a usb mouse would just stop working suddenly?  It seems to be an infrequent problem from my googling, but i can't find any "fixes"
[10:31] <Bo^Dick> when i try to boot with the low latency kernel xwindows crashes
[10:32] <bsund> hehe it's funny that when you put a ubuntu cd in windows it says "try out those cool programs for windows!" ^^
[10:32] <erUSUL> Bo^Dick: you should report it as a bug
[10:32] <psyferre> dmesg shows it being disconnected and a new one plugged in
[10:32] <erUSUL> !bugs | Bo^Dick
[10:32] <silent__> hey guys, my sound on my Audigy is not working. I have tried installing the latest alsa drivers to no avail.
[10:32] <Bo^Dick> erUSUL: have you ever used the low latency kernel?
[10:32] <ubotu> Bo^Dick: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:33] <Bo^Dick> silent__: what card do you have?
[10:33] <Andeh> MAN ANGRY
[10:33] <erUSUL> Bo^Dick: nope i use my own self compiled kernels... (they are "lowlatency"...)
[10:33] <Andeh> Ding Dong
[10:33] <Andeh> Linux!
[10:33] <marko-_-> thank god
[10:33] <Andeh> err, gusty.
[10:33] <marko-_-> i got it
[10:33] <silent__> Bo^Dick: Sound blaster audigy
[10:33] <marko-_-> anyway
[10:33] <marko-_-> thanks:>
[10:33] <Andeh> ;D
[10:33] <yaser> oliver_g_, a guy from fuse solved the problem with fusermount -zu /media/medea7
[10:33] <frojnd> !wireless
[10:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:33] <DM|> Is there anyway to force swapping to occur
[10:33] <Bo^Dick> erUSUL: why aren't the precompiled ones low latency?
[10:33] <Andeh> Question: I need to copy my home folder to external hard drive. When I do this, it tells me "Permission denied". What?
[10:33] <Andeh> should I sudo it?
[10:33] <silent__> Andeh, yes
[10:34] <pierre__> hi
[10:34] <Bo^Dick> silent__: i've got a soundblaster audigy 2 zs myself
[10:34] <erUSUL> Bo^Dick: there is a precompiled that is lowlatency is what you are using, isn't it?
[10:34] <Andeh> ok
[10:34] <Bo^Dick> erUSUL: i installed in from synaptic
[10:34] <Andeh> lol perfect
[10:34] <silent__> Bo^Dick: How did you get yours working? It's detected, the drivers are installed, everything is unmuted, no sound
[10:34] <oliver_g_> yaser: cool, good to know!
[10:34] <DM|> erUSUL hey question, what kernel would u suggest for a dual cpu p3 450mhz x2?
[10:34] <BillyBeans> has anyone in hear setup Courrier imap, and will answer my question???
[10:35] <Andeh> But how come i don't have permission to backup my home folder without sudo-ing?
[10:35] <erUSUL> DM|: generic
[10:35] <Bo^Dick> silent__: it worked but with a poor audio quality
[10:35] <silent__> Andeh: do you have write permissions whereever you're copying to?
[10:35] <DM|> erusul really? isnt there one for older pcs
[10:35] <Bo^Dick> silent__: i've tweaked with the alsa.conf file
[10:35] <pierre__> someone know for what my laptop he start ubuntu just if the ac is not connected
[10:35] <Andeh> silent__: Yes.
[10:35] <silent__> Bo^Dick: I'm using default settings
[10:35] <erUSUL> DM|: if its pIII the generic is fine
[10:36] <skynexus_> _Andrew: ok, I'll talk to you later, will be online, perhaps playing openarena soon :-)
[10:36] <DM|> erusul generic is what i use for my dual CORE laptop ( 2006) I would use the same for a 1997 cpu
[10:36] <silent__> Bo^Dick: I have onboard, but audigy is so much better
[10:36] <Andeh> silent__: It works when I sudo it. it's my external hdd.
[10:36] <fuzzyhair> How can I tell what kind of processor I have(386,686,etc)?
[10:36] <CharlieSu> any good IDE's for C/C++ come w/ ubuntu
[10:36] <magicrobotmonkey> does anyone know how to control fan speed off the livecd?
[10:36] <Bo^Dick> silent__: same situation here
[10:36] <silent__> Andeh, where is your external mounted?
[10:36] <Bo^Dick> silent__: my doesn't work well
[10:36] <kane77> heh.. which battery indicator should I trust - the applet the one in systray or powertop? I get 3 different times that differ greatly... :)
[10:36] <Bo^Dick> silent__: i can't record audio
[10:36] <Andeh> silent__: /media/LACIE
[10:36] <silent__> Bo^Dick: I've heard lots of people have more success with kde
[10:37] <oliver_g_> Andeh: what filesystem is on the external disk?
[10:37] <silent__> Andeh, ls -l that dir
[10:37] <Andeh> NTFS
[10:37] <Bo^Dick> silent__: do you mean for sound?
[10:37] <erUSUL> DM|: you can try the 386 one... not sure if it supports smp though
[10:37] <Andeh> silent__: The dir i'm copying or the one I'm copying stuff TO?
[10:37] <BillyBeans> "has anyone in hear setup Courier imap ?"
[10:37] <silent__> Andeh: the one copying to
[10:37] <Andeh> ah
[10:37] <silent__> Bo^Dick: yes
[10:38] <Andeh> silent__: I'm not going to show you the contents, lol.
[10:38] <BillyBeans> "has anyone in hear setup Courier imap ?"
[10:38] <Flare183> wow the bot actully join the irc
[10:38] <silent__> Andeh, not the contents, permission
[10:38] <DM|> erUsul ok ill check it out thanks
[10:38] <Andeh> silent__: Either way, there's no file or directory with that name :/
[10:38] <Bo^Dick> silent__: why would the windows manager affect sound
[10:38] <Andeh> i'm copying to empty folder
[10:39] <erUSUL> DM|: no problem
[10:39] <Flare183> charliesu:> eclipse
[10:39] <oliver_g_> BillyBeans: maybe there's really noone here who has set up Courier :-)
[10:39] <Andeh> silent__: Permissions of /media/LACIE?
[10:39] <silent__> Andeh, yes
[10:39] <DM|> erUSUL one more question, how can i tell if ubuntu is detecting and using both cpus on this old POS?
[10:39] <BillyBeans> oliver_G_ : i just need some help with courier imap
[10:39] <oliver_g_> Andeh: what does "ls -la /media/LACIE" say?
[10:39] <erUSUL> DM|: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:39] <silent__> Bo^Dick: apparently its applets for sound controls have different options
[10:39] <jimmygoon> I need to copy the contents of one HD to another HD, what is the best method
[10:39] <Andeh> drwx------ 11 andy root 32768 2007-10-10 22:34 LACIE
[10:40] <silent__> jimmygoon: cp
[10:40] <erUSUL> DM|: or dmesg | less and check if it detects and brings up both cpus
[10:40] <BillyBeans> it says i need to know my usergroup and how do i find out my usergroup from the terminal?
[10:40] <jimmygoon> silent__, :( ok
[10:40] <oliver_g_> BillyBeans: yes I just wanted to hint that maybe you have a too exotic problem for this channel?
[10:40] <riotkittie> why the :(  jimmygoon ?
[10:40] <oliver_g_> BillyBeans: oh... in terminal, type "id" to get some info about your user and the groups
[10:40] <jimmygoon> riotkittie, ntfs
[10:40] <riotkittie> oooh.
[10:40] <silent__> Andeh: are you copying /home or /home/user
[10:41] <Kworth> Hello I installed an USB soundcard and it is one that should work with ubuntu because the input device on my inboardcard doesnt work right, but still it uses the old card for output now, is there an nice gui tool to configure enable + disable sound cards?
[10:41] <jimmygoon> riotkittie, its okay, gutsy has the ntfs-3g by default right?
[10:41] <silent__> Kworth, asoundcard
[10:41] <silent__> Kworth: or something like that
[10:41] <Pelo> Kworth, check in your bios if you can'T disable your onboard audio from there
[10:41] <silent__> Kworth: cli though
[10:41] <DM|> erUSUL it brings up so much stuff i cant scroll all the way up
[10:42] <kling0n> can someone suggest a way to reload snd_via82xx without a reboot ?
[10:42] <oliver_g_> Kworth: there's some tool under System -> Settings which is for setting up multimedia stuff
[10:42] <erUSUL> DM|: then use the 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
[10:42] <Pelo> kling0n,  snd....  restart
[10:42] <Bo^Dick> what worries me is that the low latency kernel in the synaptic package manager states that it's for the 64-bit linux version
[10:42] <Bo^Dick> i'm running the 32-bit ubuntu
[10:42] <MikeonTV> ahhh I upgraded Fiesty and now it doesn't recognize my audio device
[10:42] <Flare183> can anyone tell me why localhost on my machine says permission denied
[10:43] <Pelo> !sound | MikeonTV
[10:43] <silent__> Andeh: ??
[10:43] <Kworth> i will try the bios disable , might be back soon, thanks bye
[10:43] <jimmygoon> what do you mean "localhost"... you mean http://localhost/ ?
[10:43] <riotkittie> jimmygoon: yes, it does.
[10:43] <jimmygoon> riotkittie, good deal, I will use that then!
[10:43] <ubotu> MikeonTV: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:43] <jimmygoon> mkfs.ntfs?
[10:44] <jimmygoon> noooo :( gparted should work though
[10:44] <MikeonTV> sound
[10:44] <coda1229> !wifi
[10:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:45] <Flare183> jimmygoon:> yeah well really I am trying to get hotway to work and it works (I guess) and when I tell thunderbird(or kontact) to get mail it says permission denied; and more than that the telnet says the same thing
[10:45] <Pelo> MikeonTV,  it's  !sound it's the bot trigger for the info you got right after
[10:45] <DM|> erUsul hmm only picking up 1  if im reading that correcyl
[10:46] <Andeh> silent_: I'm copying from inside /home/user/ (selected all files)
[10:46] <Bo^Dick> mention situations where one wants the low latency kernel and situations where one does not want it
[10:46] <Andeh> silent_: I was gone sorry :P
[10:46] <erUSUL> DM|: you should see a processor: 0 and and a processor: 1
[10:46] <pierre__> someone know for what my laptop he start ubuntu just if the ac is not connected
[10:46] <Pelo> erUSUL,  dual core ?
[10:46] <valehru_> Is there a way to get mod_proxy_balancer installed if I already have apache2 installed from the feisty repos?
[10:47] <DM|> erUSUL nope only one..
[10:47] <DM|> pelo dual CPU, its an older machine
[10:47] <erUSUL> Pelo: it is and old pIII smp if i understand correctly
[10:47] <Pelo> pierre__,  someone mentionned this before if I recall, check in the forum   www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:47] <jimmygoon> Flare183, sorry, I don't even know what that is
[10:47] <joao__> hello
[10:47] <Flare183> ok then..
[10:47] <erUSUL> DM|: with the i386 kernel? as i suspected it does not support smp
[10:47] <Pelo> !hi | joao__
[10:47] <ubotu> joao__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:47] <erUSUL> DM|: use the generic one
[10:48] <paolo_> hi, is it true that build-essential pkgs are not part of ubuntu 7 while they were present in the previous version?
[10:48] <DM|> erUsul ok ill install that, thanks man
[10:48] <erUSUL> DM|: no problem
[10:48] <DM|> erUsul if u were a girl id marry u
[10:48] <joao__> im trying to install ies4linux but I get an error, can anyone please help me?? it says: Your wine does not have wineprefixcreate installed. Maybe you are running an old Wine version. Try to update it to the latest version.
[10:48] <Pelo> paolo_,  they are not part of the default install, just type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:48] <Flare183> can anyone help me
[10:48] <joao__> I installed wine through apt-get and it is versio.46
[10:48] <KoweSix> how to prevent an error called: mount point /xy does not exist, when i want to mount an encrypted container file via truecrypt? Oo
[10:48] <Pelo> joao__,  try asking about this in #winehq
[10:49] <pierre__> pelo i check in forum and i don't see good tread for my problem
[10:49] <erUSUL> DM|: a man XD better luck the next time ;P
[10:49] <Flare183> Pici:> do you know what I can talking about?
[10:49] <Bo^Dick> can i adjust some settings in the kernel w/o recompile it?
[10:49] <anoncow> hey has anyone in here had graphics issues with a Radeon Mobile 345M and Gutsy?  I'm getting a really bad case of graphics problems
[10:49] <joao__> Pelo: ok, I thought that since I was on feisty it would be a distro related problem
[10:49] <frojnd> how can I install knetowork manager ?? here shows a list of packages that relates knetworkmanager http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=knetworkmanager&version=edgy&arch=i386&page=1&number=50
[10:49] <magicrobotmonkey> does anyone know how to change the fan speed? i thought i could edit /proc/acpi/fan something but the dir is empty
[10:49] <DM|> erUSUL *cry*  :P
[10:49] <gnomefreak> anoncow: join #ubuntu+1 for gutsy
[10:50] <cwillu> I'm having keyboard shortcut difficulties
[10:50] <Flare183> another op >> gnomefreak
[10:50] <anoncow> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:50] <Pelo> joao__,  could be but I don't think it is ,the ppl in #winehq can probably tell you for sure and they are more likely to know the fix
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Flare183: ?
[10:50] <erUSUL> DM|: :D
[10:50] <Flare183> gnomefreak:> is Pici here?
[10:50] <cwillu> I turned on the 'set keyboard shortcuts directly' option (forget what it was called exactly), and it works, but they all get forgotten after I close and reopen the program
[10:50] <cwillu> anybody know what I'm doing wrong?
[10:51] <Pelo> Flare183, just check the member list
[10:51] <Flare183> ok
[10:51] <gnomefreak> dont know. what difference does it make who are ops? this is a support channel only please lets keep it that way. join #ubuntu-offtopic to talk outside of support
[10:51] <Flare183> ok
[10:51] <Scunizi> Feisty recognizes both my webcams (Philips & Creative), however if one is unplugged on boot it won't recognize it.  How do I get Feisty to recognize the cam if I plug it in after booting?
[10:51] <Shapeshifter> I would like certain commands to be run just before suspend or shutdown. where do I have to put them?
[10:52] <Flare183> shapeshifter:> on the terminal
[10:52] <henri_> hey guys, feisty randomly locks up on my quad core, 4gb ram system - i'll be plodding along fine then sound will fail (start looping repeatedly over the same 1 second period) then the mouse/keyboard will stop working - where do i start debugging? no obvious error msgs
[10:52] <DM|> erusul haha its a dapper machine, can i just install the smp kernel since generic isnt an option ?
[10:52] <Elite> Hmmm i'm still having problems with my Widescreen external monitor >_<
[10:52] <erUSUL> DM|: sure
[10:52] <Pelo> Flare183,  jsut ask your question and don'T feel ignored if you don'T get an asnwer right away,  just ask again later
[10:52] <Flare183> i know
[10:52] <cwillu> Shapeshifter: I think there's a folder /etc/acpi.d/events or something like that
[10:52] <Bo^Dick> many people say they recompile their kernels
[10:52] <Bo^Dick> is that necessary in order to adjust some settings?
[10:52] <Shapeshifter> cwillu: k thx, Ill have a look
[10:53] <Flare183> shapeshifter:> to shutdown use halt or shutdown and to restart use reboot
[10:53] <Flare183> another reboot command is shutdown -r
[10:53] <cwillu> Bo^Dick: for most people, no
[10:53] <erUSUL> Bo^Dick: i do not think of myself as "many people" just two or two and a half XD
[10:53] <cwillu> Bo^Dick: what are you trying to do?
[10:53] <miles8> Will ssh get confused with keys if you connect to two different ssh servers with the same ip? (different ports)
[10:53] <Pelo> Bo^Dick,  you shouldn't need to recompile the kernel unless it is mentionned in a howto you are following,  of if you realy knowwhat you are doing
[10:53] <Shapeshifter> Flare183: I'd like the commands to be run EVERy shutdown or suspend. I know how to use a terminal ;) but I want them to be run when I press the suspend/shutdown button
[10:53] <Draggin> Oh wow... This is awesome... I'm chatting through GAIM! I didn't even know that was possible!
[10:53] <cox377> does anyone know the command to correct the server time?
[10:53] <oliver_g_> miles8: unfortunately it seems to get confused :-/
[10:53] <Flare183> shapeshifter:> thats kernel
[10:54] <Flare183> shapeshifter:> thats kernel workings
[10:54] <cwillu> Shapeshifter: any tutorial on getting suspend working on a laptop will tell you where to put things :p
[10:54] <Pelo> Draggin,  just because you can doesn't mean you should
[10:54] <erUSUL> cox377: man date and man ntpdate
[10:54] <Flare183> excuse me
[10:54] <cwillu> there's a couple dozen places, but I think the events thing I mentioned is the recommended place
[10:54] <Shapeshifter> Flare183: not really ^^
[10:54] <oliver_g_> miles8: I have such a problem myself (connecting to a router which offers ssh login to two machines on different ports)
[10:54] <Draggin> Pelo - is there a problem with that here?
[10:54] <genii> Draggin: Yes, GAIM/Pidgen is very versatile :)
[10:54] <Scunizi> Draggin, you should try irssi sometime for a totally different effect.. it's for the terminal and helpful when you can't get into the gui an need assistance.
[10:54] <Lycos> hello :)
[10:54] <d90> does anyone know real location of application/wine folder, I have to delete some shortcuts, but no one answers on winehq irc ... :(
[10:54] <cwillu> Flare183: there's a whole bunch of usermode stuff
[10:54] <Shapeshifter> cwillu, I found it, thx
[10:54] <cwillu> Shapeshifter: sweet
[10:54] <miles8> oliver_g_: that is what I am trying to do, any work around?
[10:54] <Flare183> wow
[10:54] <henri_> cox377: ntpdate -s ?
[10:54] <henri_> something like that
[10:54] <henri_> man ntpdate
[10:54] <cwillu> d90: depends on how you installed it
[10:55] <Pelo> Draggin,   I jjust think using a instant msg prog to chat is blasphemes
[10:55] <cwillu> d90: ~/.wine usually
[10:55] <henri_> d90: somewhere in $HOME/.wine?
[10:55] <oliver_g_> Pelo: gaim (pidgin is awsome for irc :-)
[10:55] <Lycos> can anyone tell me if ther is an "vnc scanner" for ubuntu ???
[10:55] <cwillu> ?
[10:55] <cwillu> Lycos: ?
[10:55] <Bo^Dick> the reason is that i'd like to adjust the time resolution in the kernel
[10:55] <Pelo> Lycos,  did you check in synaptic ?
[10:55] <Lycos> a prog that scans for vnc servers
[10:55] <Lycos> that is what i'm looking for
[10:55] <Flare183> lycos:> krdc might help you
[10:55] <Draggin> Pelo - oh :) hehe, old-school, huh?  Well, in all honesty, I was using ChatZilla before this, but it's so ugly...
[10:55] <Pelo> Lycos,  did you check in synaptic ?
[10:55] <cwillu> Bo^Dick: that, you'd have to recompile, but are you sure you want to?
[10:55] <Pelo> Draggin, xchat ...
[10:56] <benzon> !codec
[10:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:56] <cox377> erUSUL: I shall take a look, cheers guys
[10:56] <d90> cwillu, henri_,  !application/wine!
[10:56] <Lycos> il check now :D
[10:56] <b08y> hey i need help, where can i see how the gusty kernel was compiled, with which options?
[10:56] <Scunizi> Any one have problems with Feisty recognizing their webcam after booting then plugging it in vs. having it plugged in at boot?
[10:56] <oliver_g_> miles8: yes there is a workaround i think
[10:56] <Bo^Dick> i read about a patch too
[10:56] <cwillu> !kernel > b08y
[10:56] <oliver_g_> miles8: just have to look it up in my config files :-)
[10:56] <gnomefreak> b08y: launchpad and for further gutsy questions join #ubuntu+1
[10:56] <Pelo> b08y, it's usualy on the site somewhere but you can try asking in #ubuntu+1
[10:56] <Bo^Dick> is it possible to save the unpatched kernel just in case?
[10:56] <cwillu> absoluately
[10:56] <cwillu> Bo^Dick: old kernel isn't uninstalled generally if you go the deb route
[10:57] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know what the application for monitoring power use is?
[10:57] <spasticteapot> I found it a while ago...it's got a graphing function.
[10:57] <oliver_g_> miles8: here's the comment in my ~/.ssh/config that says it: "# No strict IP checking, as mecky and charly have same hostname" :-)
[10:57] <cox377> erUSUL: umm i'm just after a command say that will just make it use an external time server
[10:57] <Pelo> spasticteapot, there is a panel app for that I beleive
[10:57] <unwiredbrain> Hi to everyone! I'm starting to code in C++, and I would like to know which editor is better for you.Thanks.
[10:57] <spasticteapot> The one I'm looking for is not a panel app.
[10:58] <oliver_g_> miles8: i have added the two machines to my ssh config file, and have set the option "StrictHostKeyChecking no" for each one
[10:58] <spasticteapot> I'm getting under two hours on an IBM X61, and I'm a bit peeved.
[10:58] <Pelo> unwiredbrain,  any text editor will do as far as I understand
[10:58] <veynom> are USB wireless cards capable of RF monitoring?
[10:58] <miles8> oliver_g_: thanks
[10:58] <nicolai__> n8
[10:58] <Ca0s86> saludos, como registro un nick?
[10:58] <unwiredbrain> Pelo, yeah, i knew. But I'm looking for some sort of IDE or stuff like that.
[10:58] <Pelo> later folks
[10:59] <Ca0s86> sorry, how I can register a nick?
[10:59] <Kworth> Soundcard works now, thanks guys :)
[10:59] <oliver_g_> unwiredbrain: have a look at kdevelop or eclipse (for full IDEs); or you can use emacs or kate as quite nice "programmer
[11:00] <oliver_g_> ... editors
[11:00] <Draggin> Ca0s86 - type "/msg nickserv register help" for info
[11:00] <unwiredbrain> oliver_g_, thanks.
[11:00] <Kworth> Skype always gives me the error : Problem with Callback? Soundcard works fine - what to do?
[11:00] <KoweSix> why do i not have permission to some folders in ubuntu after a new installation of the os? oO
[11:00] <Andeh> When I enable 3-D effects in preferences, the screen goes white and I have to restart X
[11:01] <Andeh>  I have a Nvidia 8600 GT 256MB
[11:01] <Andeh> Do I need to install drivers?
[11:01] <nucco> hi, i observed something just now that could be a 'bug' but i can't classify it.
[11:02] <nucco> i had a cd-rw/dvdrom combo previously. i replaced it with a dvd-rw drive, and cd burning tool wouldn't work
[11:02] <Kworth> cant I use Amarok and Skype at the same time?
[11:02] <Kworth> It just gives me an error when I use it both?
[11:02] <nucco> synaptic couldn't also recognise that there was a disc in the drive
[11:03] <oliver_g_> Kworth: do you use skype 1.3 or later?
[11:03] <Kworth> oliver_g_ I use 1.4
[11:03] <Kworth> oliver_g_, 1.4.0.74 to be exactly
[11:04] <oliver_g_> Kworth: hmm, then you should be able to use ALSA for sound output, so amarok and skype should be able to work in parallel
[11:04] <Draggin> So tell me - when I get Gutsy, do I have to do a clean install from a standard CD, or is there some way of upgrading Feisty without a complete cleanout?
[11:04] <erUSUL> cox377: use ntpdate or better yet run ntpd to maintain your clock synced
[11:04] <Kworth> oliver_g_, Oh I think I might not have activated ALSA
[11:05] <erUSUL> cox377: 'sudo /etc/init.d/ntp start' y you want to add it to startup services 'sudo update-rc.d ntp defaults'
[11:06] <kevinO> anyone know where the c header files for the kernel are?
[11:06] <veynom> how can i get linux to make the windows i open stay the same dimensions, like to keep terminal at the same size every time i open it?
[11:06] <erUSUL> kevinO: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[11:06] <nucco> veynom: try devilspie
[11:06] <jstarcher> were does the file go when I run iptables-save?
[11:07] <kevinO> erUSUL: I dont already have them?
[11:07] <usr13> jstarcher, No where,  No file, only a command
[11:07] <erUSUL> kevinO: if you didn't installed them, no
[11:07] <kevinO> ok
[11:07] <kevinO> thanks
[11:08] <usr13> jstarcher, You would need to make a script yourself if you want the rules to be executed in the future.
[11:08] <Lakitu7> Gnome seems to have broken itself. ALl menu items simply return "could not launch menu item" How do I fix?
[11:08] <nucco> KevinO: that is: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:08] <gsb> Lakitu7:  Did you uninstall or change anything?
[11:09] <Andeh> How do I EXIT X?
[11:09] <Andeh> Not restart it
[11:09] <kevinO> nucco: ahh thanks
[11:09] <Lakitu7> I attempted to use the MAIN MENU editor in system menu.
[11:09] <Lakitu7> in which most things seemed to not work, but upon exiting, this began.
[11:09] <inimesekene> hello, what's the difference between the dvd and the cd versions?
[11:09] <mik3> i need to monitor a machine that is down right now, as in no route to it, and i need an alarm that will go off when the IP address is pingable, anyone have a recommendation?
[11:10] <nucco> Andeh: if you want a terminal, press "alt+ctrl+f1-f6"
[11:10] <gsb> Lakitu7:  What programs are having the issues?  All the gnome related programs?
[11:10] <spasticteapot> mik3: Sounds like something you could do with a shell script.
[11:10] <EnderTheThird> mik3: pay a neighbor kid to watch it?  ;-)
[11:10] <Andeh> nucco: I know that. how do I EXIT X? My NVIDIA driver wont run if X is running.
[11:10] <ScarEye> Hey guys,  I just installed Ubuntu Server 7.04 and I wanted to know does it come with a firewall by default ?  if not what do you guys recommend. I am not using any gui (kde or gnome)
[11:10] <Andeh> ScarEye: it does.
[11:10] <Lakitu7> Anything in the gnome menu has the issue, including simple things such as "about me"
[11:10] <nucco> Andeh: if you're not running X, is nvidia still useful?
[11:10] <mik3> spasticteapot : i don't know how to shell script, not enough to do what i need.
[11:11] <erUSUL> Andeh: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[11:11] <gsb> Andeh: sudo /etc/init.d/gsm dtop
[11:11] <EnderTheThird> ScarEye: it comes with one.  I'm not sure if it's turned on by default for Server or not though
[11:11] <Andeh> ok
[11:11] <Lakitu7> Could not launch menu item  Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/gnome-about-me.desktop': Unsupported operation
[11:11] <spasticteapot> mik3: Use a CHRON function to PING the IP address every minute or so.
[11:11] <Andeh> thanks
[11:11] <gsb> Andeh:  er gdm
[11:11] <Andeh> brb
[11:11] <mik3> spasticteapot : and for the alarm?
[11:11] <spasticteapot> mik3: Well, shell scripting is stupid easy.
[11:11] <Lakitu7> (though all of these files are there, I can access them in console)
[11:11] <spasticteapot> mik3: Tell your favorite .mp3 player to open a Steely Dan song.
[11:11] <mik3> uh? all from a chrontab?
[11:12] <coogs> How can I change the size of the text on the desktop?
[11:12] <ScarEye> Andeh: what does it come with ?
[11:12] <ScarEye> iptables ?
[11:12] <gsb> mik3:  yeah, cron is pretty sweet haha.
[11:12] <inimesekene> hello, what's the difference between the dvd and the cd versions?
[11:12] <erUSUL> coogs: System>Preferences>fonts
[11:12] <nucco> coogs: system > preferences > fonts
[11:12] <coogs> thanks
[11:12] <KoweSix> ubuntu got a default root pw? ^^
[11:12] <self_enquiry> How many FPS is need for a good 3D acceleration?
[11:12] <spasticteapot> mik3: I learned shell scripting in about two hours.
[11:12] <nucco> nope
[11:12] <gsb> Lakitu7:  are you able to check your logs?  If so is there anything interesting in them?
[11:12] <nucco> KoweSix: no
[11:12] <Scunizi> !root | KoweSix
[11:12] <spasticteapot> And I can't really code in anything other than Qbasic.
[11:12] <ubotu> KoweSix: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:13] <nucco> KoweSix: root is idsabled by default
[11:13] <KoweSix> cheerio thx
[11:13] <spasticteapot> KoweSix: Or just use the passwd command to give yourself a root password, which enables root.
[11:13] <coogs> actually I'm running xubuntu. Would that make a difference
[11:13] <spasticteapot> Then you can use "su" or log in as root.
[11:13] <coogs> ?
[11:13] <erUSUL> spasticteapot: please do not advice that
[11:13] <jstarcher> is sudo iptables -A FORWARD -d 0/0 -p tcp --dport 6464 -j ACCEPT right?
[11:14] <nucco> spasticteapot: root login is also disabled at GDM.
[11:14] <erUSUL> KoweSix: if you want a temp "root shell" use 'sudo -i'
[11:14] <self_enquiry> How many FPS is need for a good 3D acceleration?
[11:14] <gsb> coogs: Applications > Desktop Settings > Behavior Tab
[11:14] <shimizu> how good is ur 3d accelerator to make nice fps
[11:14] <nucco> self_enquiry: anything upwards of 30 is good.
[11:14] <usr13> jstarcher, I am wrong. I didn't look at what you said.  I didn't realize you said "iptables-save".  I've never used that command and do not know wht it does.
[11:15] <shimizu> self_enquiry, weird question imo.. it's not about fps to make good acceleration, it's vice versa
[11:15] <self_enquiry> lawrence@inspiron:~$ glxgears
[11:15] <self_enquiry> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[11:15] <self_enquiry> 6270 frames in 5.1 seconds = 1230.564 FPS
[11:15] <self_enquiry> 6081 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1205.522 FPS
[11:15] <self_enquiry> 6100 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1210.162 FPS
[11:15] <self_enquiry> 6140 frames in 5.1 seconds = 1204.748 FPS
[11:15] <usr13> jstarcher, No,
[11:15] <self_enquiry> 6120 frames in 5.1 seconds = 1211.453 FPS
[11:16] <Andeh> Hi
[11:16] <self_enquiry> How is this?
[11:16] <spasticteapot> self_enquiry: That seems fishy.
[11:16] <Andeh> NVIDIA installer needs to compile me a kernel header
[11:17] <spasticteapot> self_enquiry: Also, each frame takes a LOT longer when you've got to render a dozen cyborg zombie Nazis.
[11:17] <usr13> jstarcher, the syntax is right, but a rule like that would probably not be necessary.
[11:17] <Andeh> It says I don't have libc or something installed
[11:17] <Andeh> whats the package for that?
[11:17] <nucco> self_enquiry: glxgears does not do nearly as much as a modern 3d game does... :)
[11:17] <shimizu> self_enquiry, i tryed this glxgears just now it says from 7500 to 8500
[11:18] <bernier> Hi, where can I download the latest ubuntu kernel source?
[11:18] <self_enquiry> I/ll check wat's happend
[11:18] <gsb> Andeh:  Do you have gcc installed?
[11:18] <unics> hello
[11:18] <Andeh> gsb: I hope so
[11:18] <Andeh> install it now ...
[11:18] <shimizu> self_enquiry, what is ur video card
[11:19] <Andeh> gcc is already the newest version.
[11:19] <Andeh> I need libc
[11:19] <self_enquiry> ati radeon mobility X1400
[11:19] <gsb> Andeh:  I can't remember exactly what its called, give me one second.
[11:19] <DM|> erUSUL think i can do a dist-upgrade to feisty and be ok (from dapper)
[11:19] <unics> i'm having a little problem running psyBNC on ubuntu 6.06. It starts fine and also runs fine for a little while, but after a while i can't connect to the bouncer anymore and/or it goes down in ping timeout and won't come back. any idea what the problem could be ?
[11:19] <Andeh> thanks :D
[11:19] <shimizu> self_enquiry, i've x1950 xt.. try envy and install driver via it
[11:20] <Lakitu7_> Person who was helping me, sorry. I missed any response after I last spkoe.
[11:20] <shimizu> self_enquiry, but comparing our cards ur result is ok i think =)
[11:20] <usr13> jstarcher, It would depend a lot on the rules you've inserted before.  If you are blocking a range of ports including that one, and this rule will open just the one. Yes, it would be correct.  You have to judge the effectiveness of iptables rules as a whole, or end result of all the rules you insert.
[11:20] <Lakitu7_> it took me some time get back here after my console shortcut stopped working
[11:20] <self_enquiry> shimizu, thanks, I'll try
[11:21] <DM|> erUSUL nm its doing edgy, im gtg
[11:21] <erUSUL> DM|: you have to do dapper>edgy>feisty
[11:21] <gsb> Andeh:  Have you already installed the build-essential package?
[11:21] <gsb> Andeh:  Also, do a dpkg --list |grep libc and see if what you need is listed.
[11:21] <Andeh> theres a lot of libc packages
[11:21] <jstarcher> usr13, can I reset iptables back to defaults some how?
[11:22] <Andeh> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[11:22] <Andeh> oh
[11:22] <usr13> jstarcher, Yes, -F is for flush
[11:22] <Andeh> typo
[11:22] <gsb> Andeh: no s :)
[11:22] <usr13> or to just delete that one rule  -D
[11:22] <Andeh> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[11:22] <Andeh> Is that bad?
[11:22] <usr13> e.g.  sudo iptables -D FORWARD -d 0/0 -p tcp --dport 6464 -j ACCEPT
[11:23] <gsb> andeh: also, I would go ahead and do sudo apt-get install libc6 libc6-dev
[11:23] <gsb> andeh:  do you have all the repositories enabled?
[11:23] <bjwebb> hi
[11:23] <hendrixski> Andeh, build-essntials with an s at the end
[11:23] <Andeh> ah
[11:23] <bjwebb> why are mplayer dependencies in multiverse
[11:23] <hendrixski> Andeh, you can press tab 3 times and it should autocomplete it for you or show you a list of available tab completions
[11:23] <bjwebb> are they still free and gpl'd?
[11:23] <hendrixski> :-)
[11:24] <Andeh> ah okay
[11:24] <hendrixski> bjwebb, because some countries have f*cktarded laws about codecs
[11:24] <Andeh> brb
[11:24] <usr13> -F will flush all rules in a chain or designate no chain and flush all chanins.
[11:25] <bjwebb> hendrixski: but are they still gpl'd? is it just patents rather than copyright (like w32codecs)
[11:25] <usr13> chains not chains  not chanins
[11:25] <hendrixski> anybody know how to get diff to show me more than just the different files between two directories, but also the contents of the new files?
[11:25] <usr13> hendrixski, diff file2 file1
[11:25] <hendrixski> bjwebb, I think it may be a patent issue... but don't quote me on it.... if you can apt-get source w32codecs you know it's open source
[11:26] <bjwebb> hendrixski: im confusing you now, i know w32 codecs isn't, its other stuff i want to know about....
[11:26] <hendrixski> usr13, that doesn't work if that file DOESN'T EXIST in folder but does in another... I'm looking for a folder wide solution... know of anything like that?
[11:27] <hendrixski> bjwebb, my best guess is that if you can apt-get source from ubuntu, then it's open source... if not... it's probably proprietary (make sure you have the deb-src enabled for that repository)
[11:27] <usr13> hendrixski, diff /path/file1 /path/file2
[11:27] <gsb> hendrixski:  Couldn't you just specify the path to both files?
[11:27] <gsb> ah usr13 beat me to it :P
[11:27] <CorpusCallosum> is there any IDE for C++ and LEDA for graph algorithms and wireless sensor network i am using gutsy beta
[11:28] <spasticteapot> CorpusCallosum: Wha?
[11:28] <gsb> I was thinking the same thing..
[11:28] <Tronyx> how can you find a partition's mount point?  I'd like to mount an NTFS partition on the same drive
[11:28] <spasticteapot> Um....how about getting output from another program, and feeding into a C++ program written in your IDE of choice?
[11:28] <hendrixski> gsb, usr13.... I added a file to a folder... then when I run diff -r orrigFolder newFolder it only tells me "this file is extra" but won't show the same kind of output I'd get between file1 and file2
[11:28] <d90> I preformed sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install KDE, And now after 2h+, it says "Fetched 124MB in 2h23m24s (14.4kB/s)
[11:28] <d90> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-gui_4.2.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb  Connection timed out [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[11:28] <d90> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kdeprint_3.5.6-0ubuntu20.7_i386.deb  Connection timed out [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[11:28] <d90> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[11:28] <d90> " What does this mean? is it ok?
[11:28] <spasticteapot> I know there's graph libraries somewhere.
[11:28] <usr13> spasticteapot, less /etc/fstab
[11:28] <erUSUL> !paste | d90
[11:28] <ubotu> d90: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:28] <gsb> Tronyx:  if you do a df -h that gives you the mount points you have.
[11:29] <spasticteapot> d90: Pastedumpers will be eaten by grues.
[11:29] <CorpusCallosum> I am looking an programming IDE for C++ and LEDA plugin do you have any idea ?
[11:29] <cacus> hi there
[11:29] <Tronyx> thanks much gsb
[11:29] <cacus> anyone could help me with some problems on my ALC660?
[11:29] <gsb> along with space information
[11:29] <hendrixski> gsb, usr13 and I want to make a .diff file so that I can send it to someone else, and they just run patch folder myDiff.diff and the file gets added to their folder as well
[11:29] <cacus> i just want to configure my inlines as outlines
[11:29] <cacus> but in alsamixer and gnome alsamixer there's nothing to deal with
[11:29] <spasticteapot> usr13: What was that answer in reply to?
[11:29] <cacus> someone told me to run the modules with another commands
[11:29] <cacus> but i don't know wich commands are for this card and how to figure out wich commands are those who manage those kind of stuff
[11:29] <cacus> anybody?
[11:29] <eugman> How do I get rid of my thumbnails? i want to refresh it since it is like 3 gigs
[11:29] <spasticteapot> How do I turn off the power to my wireless card?
[11:29] <Tronyx> hm gsb, how can I add a mount point?
[11:30] <andy_33> How do I found out which window manager I'm running?
[11:30] <spasticteapot> I used to be able to use function-F5 on my X40; on my X61, it won't work.
[11:30] <usr13> spasticteapot, Unload the driver from the kernel.
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> andy_33: well, if you have a guess you can grep the output of 'ps aux'
[11:30] <spasticteapot> usr13: That won't remove power to the card.
[11:30] <usr13> spasticteapot, rmmod
[11:30] <unics> i'm having a little problem running psyBNC on ubuntu 6.06. It starts fine and also runs fine for a little while, but after a while i can't connect to the bouncer anymore and/or it goes down in ping timeout and won't come back. any idea what the problem could be ?
[11:30] <spasticteapot> rmmod?
[11:31] <veynom> anyone know a wireless card that supports RF monitoring?
[11:31] <andy_33> tonyyarusso,  hmm? :x
[11:31] <usr13> spasticteapot, no, but it will dissable it.
[11:31] <usr13> spasticteapot, effectively turning it off.
[11:31] <magnetron> veynom: most atheros-based cards
[11:31] <spasticteapot> Disabling the card still means it draws power.
[11:31] <erUSUL> hendrixski: diff -ur folder1 folder2 ??
[11:31] <entie> i'd like to update my memcached from 1.1.2 to 1.2.2,  1.1.1 isn't marshalling my objects cleanly
[11:32] <entie> i'm not terribly great a package management though
[11:32] <entie> this is to the point: http://www.ducea.com/2007/09/17/memcached-122-on-debian-etch/
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> andy_33: For instance, Gnome's window manager is metacity.  'ps aux' is a command that outputs all running processes, and 'grep' is a pattern matching tool.  'ps aux | grep metacity' would display a line with information about it if it is in fact running, and no output if not.
[11:32] <usr13> sparkleytone, Not necessarily.  If you dissable the card it will more than likely quit drawing power.  It will be turned off.
[11:32] <entie> but i'm curious about if i'm going to run in to problems using debian packages?
[11:32] <internet_> Suddenly, just today, I've gotten a whole host of problems with Ubuntu...
[11:32] <silent__> does anyone here know how to create custom resolutions for hdtvs?
[11:32] <jikanter> entie: ubuntu packages are debian packages
[11:32] <Andeh> Just installed ubuntu on my brand new PC and am enjoying the speed improvement
[11:33] <Andeh> I have a question though
[11:33] <jikanter> entie: the way ubuntu works is that we clean up the upstream debian packages... The packages are the same
[11:33] <tonyyarusso> jikanter, entie: Ubuntu and Debian packages are in the same format, but NOT necessarily compatible and it is NOT recommended to mix and match them.
[11:33] <usr13> entie, Ubuntu is just a pretty Debian.
[11:33] <internet_> I can't access my dekstop, some panel apps just quit, and I can't use XChat.
[11:33] <entie> jikanter: the sources location i pasted in complained because the public key was available
[11:33] <hendrixski> erUSUL, ah, the -u may do it
[11:33] <magnetron> Andeh: great
[11:33] <Andeh> Can I use my graphics card to render my desktop etc WITHOUT effects for maximum speed?
[11:33] <entie> *wasn't
[11:33] <jikanter> tonyrusso: it can work though....
[11:34] <robert_> are there any 32-bit qt libraries for Feisty/64?
[11:34] <Andeh> I''m in feisty
[11:34] <entie> so here is the other idea
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> jikanter: It can, but you do so at your own risk and such behaviour is not supported.
[11:34] <entie> gutsy has memcached 1.2.2
[11:34] <entie> is that a better choice?
[11:34] <KoweSix> When I start an external hdd, it is automatically mounted as read-only.. how can i change that? :o
[11:34] <jikanter> tonyyrusso: I agree
[11:34] <hendrixski> erUSUL, nope....  same output... just says that there is a different file... probably wouldn'y make the kind of patch to create it :-(
[11:34] <erUSUL> hendrixski: no it is -N
[11:34] <jikanter> entie: be really careful. Don't do anything yet..
[11:34] <Tronyx> can anyone tell me how to add a mount point?  I need to mount the NTFS partition of my hard drive
[11:34] <erUSUL> hendrixski: diff -Nur folder1 folder2 ??
[11:34] <entie> 1.2.1-1 precisely. is it resonable to upgrade a single package to gutsy?
[11:34] <joseph> I am trying to figure out howcome I can get my wireless up and running in PCLinux but not with Ubuntu
[11:34] <hendrixski> erUSUL, ah, SWEET
[11:35] <erUSUL> hendrixski: -u is for unified format and r recursive
[11:35] <jikanter> entie: the issue deals with dependencies of packages...
[11:35] <robert_> Andeh, 32 or 64?
[11:35] <d90> I sucessful installed KDE enviroment using "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop". OK what should I need to download to have option at login to choose between GNOME and KDE.
[11:35] <MasterShrek> KoweSix, is it ntfs?
[11:35] <jikanter> if you do that, it may require you to download all sorts of new gutsy- based packages.
[11:35] <Andeh> robert_: 32 bit
[11:35] <entie> jikanter: i htink i'll have to update libevent and memcached
[11:35] <KoweSix> y
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> jikanter: What you can do however, if there is a package in Debian that hasn't synced to Ubuntu yet, is apt-get source the package from Debian and rebuild it on your Ubuntu system with pbuilder and debuild, which requires reading a fair bit of documentation and maybe getting some help from the MOTU team, but will make a good package in the end.
[11:35] <usr13> Tronyx, First you use mkdir to make the directory you are going to use as a mount point.  Then you mount the filesystem on that directory with the mount comand
[11:36] <MasterShrek> KoweSix, cuz linux cant read/write ntfs natively
[11:36] <hendrixski> erUSUL,   wow... the N did it... I didn't figure that out from looking at the man page... it's like -N treat absent files as empty... didn't register in my head
[11:36] <Ahadiel> d90, As you get to the login screen, click "Session"
[11:36] <robert_> I need qt 3/4 32 libs
[11:36] <Andeh> I heard there were problems with some things in x64 and that 32 bit runs fine as well
[11:36] <hendrixski> erUSUL, thank you :-)
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> d90: just log out, and click "Sessions"
[11:36] <erUSUL> hendrixski: no problem
[11:36] <MasterShrek> Andeh, mainly flash and java
[11:36] <Andeh> I have a dual core (Core 2 Duo E6550)
[11:36] <entie> ug
[11:36] <jikanter> entie: If you have the time, I would follow what tonyyrusso just said
[11:36] <Andeh> MasterShrek: yeah
[11:36] <Andeh> especially flash
[11:36] <entie> i need to do it fore a bunch of computers
[11:36] <Andeh> and java
[11:36] <Andeh> lol
[11:36] <KoweSix> MasterShrek:  so that would also explain the reason why i cant mount the encrypted container files on it?! :] 
[11:36] <MasterShrek> Andeh, flash runs fine for me, and so does java
[11:36] <MasterShrek> !ntfs-3g | KoweSix
[11:36] <ubotu> KoweSix: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:37] <Andeh> MasterShrek: O___O
[11:37] <KoweSix> thanks
[11:37] <jikanter> entie: It is for sure a worthwhile learning experience though..
[11:37] <MasterShrek> Andeh, it just takes a couple extra steps to configure in x86_64
[11:37] <Bo^Dick> thanks for all support guys
[11:37] <caskater4> does anyone know of a good program that can get me CPU/mobo temperatures and fan information?
[11:37] <entie> tonyyarusso: could you link me to an example of that process, with any package.   so i know what i'm expecting?
[11:37] <Andeh> So i just wasted 2 hours installing 64 bit?
[11:37] <d90> Ahadiel, tonyyarusso, THX
[11:37] <Draggin> Later
[11:37] <MasterShrek> Andeh, definately not, 64 bit is the way to go if your cpu can do it
[11:37] <erUSUL> !flash64 | Andeh
[11:37] <ubotu> Andeh: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:37] <Andeh> I actually ENJOY configuring things. It makes me really happy when it finally works.
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> entie: sure, a sec
[11:37] <Andeh> MasterShrek: crap...
[11:38] <jstarcher> usr13, iptables -F is a bad idea
[11:38] <jikanter> entie: search the string "pbuilder" on the ubuntu wiki
[11:38] <lunz> what is the command to umount cdrom?
[11:38] <Andeh> is there a way to reinstall all packages in 64 bit?
[11:38] <Andeh> lol
[11:38] <jikanter> entie: http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:38] <usr13> jstarcher, Why
[11:38] <entie> thanks
[11:38] <caskater4> does anyone know of a good program that can get me CPU/mobo temperatures and fan information?
[11:39] <MasterShrek> andeh what do you mean? you cant run 64 bit programs on a 32 bit kernel
[11:39] <jstarcher> usr13, it erases everything and I just lost internet connection and had to rewrite the rules by hand
[11:39] <erUSUL> !lmsensors | caskater4
[11:39] <ubotu> caskater4: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[11:39] <Andeh> MasterShrek: yeah, including the kernel I meant
[11:39] <Andeh> Whats the easiest way to convert this into x64?
[11:39] <lunz> !unmount
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <caskater4> ubotu: thx i'll take a look
[11:39] <MasterShrek> Andeh, i dont know if you can
[11:39] <magnetron> Andeh: of course there is. use the amd64 install cd
[11:39] <MasterShrek> lunz, sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[11:39] <lunz> !mount
[11:39] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:39] <lunz> thanks
[11:40] <MasterShrek> lunz, type eject to eject it
[11:40] <Andeh> magnetron: And it will just replace this and everything will run perfectly?
[11:40] <usr13> jstarcher, Well, in your case it may have been bad, but I told you what it would do.  I also told you how to delete specific rules
[11:40] <Andeh> magnetron: haha
[11:40] <magnetron> Andeh: no, it will reformat your hard drive
[11:40] <Andeh> exactly
[11:40] <MasterShrek> lol
[11:40] <Andeh> and I just spent 2 hours installing windows.
[11:40] <lunz> thanks again master
[11:40] <Andeh> Don't ask.
[11:40] <riotkittie> 2 hours. hee.
[11:40] <Andeh> meh
[11:40] <MasterShrek> np lunz
[11:41] <Andeh> less
[11:41] <riotkittie> i need to set up a disc that will let me do an unattended install.
[11:41] <Andeh> but felt like 4 hours
[11:41] <Andeh> lol
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> entie: Four links with more than you ever wanted to know: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackagingHandbook, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/
[11:41] <magnetron> Andeh: i hope you didn't use 100GB or something
[11:41] <antisystem32> a
[11:41] <MasterShrek> =P
[11:41] <usr13> jstarcher, see man iptables    (don't take my word for it)
[11:41] <riotkittie> i have windows installed as a host. <hugs it>
[11:41] <MasterShrek> pew
[11:42] <caskater4> MasterShrek: I have Windows as host, Linux only as VM ;)
[11:42] <magnetron> Andeh: so violent... the youth of today
[11:42] <Andeh> MasterShrek: I need windows AsAP. My plan: Install normally. Then install as VM under ubuntu, and if THAT runs fast enough, then delete installed windows.
[11:42] <jstarcher> usr13, yeah I know. I did what you said. here is my output. What is wrong with it? I'm simply forwarding port 6464 to 192.168.1.103:6464
[11:42] <jstarcher> usr13, http://pb.theoverclocked.com/108
[11:42] <Dsff_Sdf> Hey guys, I need some Help. I have a nVidia GeForce 6150 LE and I tried to use Envy to configure the driver and get the correct resolution setting, and now im running at 640X480 and I cant seem to fix it. Any ideas?
[11:42] <MasterShrek> !envy
[11:42] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:42] <magnetron> good ubotu
[11:43] <Andeh> lol
[11:43] <Dsff_Sdf> Yeah
[11:43] <veynom> anyone know a wirless card that supports linux and RF monitoring and is PCI or USB
[11:43] <magnetron> ubotu thank you
[11:43] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:43] <Andeh> magnetron: So, whats the best choice for converting to 64 bit?
[11:43] <Dsff_Sdf> I'm running at such a huge ugly resolution and I have no idea how to fix.
[11:43] <magnetron> veynom: any atheros-card
[11:43] <MasterShrek> Andeh, back up your /home folder and reinstall with the 64 bit cd
[11:43] <Andeh> ah
[11:43] <veynom> it seems like they're all mini-pci
[11:43] <Andeh> ok
[11:43] <magnetron> Andeh: there is only one way i know of, i told you
[11:44] <Andeh> Already have backed up
[11:44] <Andeh> hmm
[11:44] <Andeh> Its almost midnight
[11:44] <Andeh> school tomorrow
[11:44] <Andeh> :/
[11:44] <magnetron> veynom: no, there are pci and pc-card variants as well
[11:44] <riotkittie> if you go the atheros route, opt for pci. i believe that support for atheros based usb is less than stellar, but i may be wrong
[11:44] <Andeh> Also big history test that i didn't study for.
[11:44] <magnetron> veynom: yeah, i meant any non-usb atheros card
[11:45] <Dsff_Sdf> Can anyone help me with this resolution problem?
[11:45] <Andeh> Now will someone answer my question: Is there a way to use the GPU to draw the GUI WITHOUT EFFECTS, so it runs REALLY fast?
[11:45] <jstarcher> usr13, any ideas
[11:45] <veynom> ok
[11:45] <Andeh> or does it already do that?
[11:45] <riotkittie> my knee hurts >|
[11:46] <riotkittie> i want dual screens, and i want them nowww. but i'm not getting them.
[11:46] <Dsff_Sdf> :(
[11:47] <Dsff_Sdf> No one has an Idea?
[11:47] <dr3w2morow> riotkittie: go to system and look under administration then go device manager
[11:47] <nucco> riotkittie: if you feel up to it, read man xorg.conf
[11:48] <usr13> jstarcher, not sure what you are trying to accomplish.
[11:48] <dr3w2morow> dsff_sdf what was ur question?
[11:48] <veynom> what would be an optimal brand/manufactuer/etc new motherboard that likes linux?
[11:48] <nucco> its actually not too complicated. you should just create a new "screen" with the right information, and add an entry to your "serverlayout" informing X of the relative positions of the screens.
[11:48] <jstarcher> usr13, just a simple port forward
[11:48] <Dsff_Sdf> dr3w2morow,  I have a nVidia GeForce 6150 LE and I tried to use Envy to configure the driver and get the correct resolution setting, and now im running at 640X480 and I cant seem to fix it. Any ideas?
[11:48] <{Zeus}> venyom: it shouldn't matter, although I have heard ATi doesn't like Ubuntu... although my ATi is fine
[11:48] <dr3w2morow> umm ok
[11:48] <Ahadiel> Dsff_Sdf, Why'd you use Envy =/
[11:49] <Dsff_Sdf> I didn't know not to. :\
[11:49] <riotkittie> nucco: i know this, and have tried it. more than once :P
[11:49] <nucco> Dsff_Sdf: use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:49] <FlyingPig> o hai
[11:49] <dr3w2morow> dsff_sdf system -> administration -> system moniter
[11:49] <Dsff_Sdf> Yeah
[11:49] <dr3w2morow> oops
[11:49] <dr3w2morow> lol wait
[11:49] <avalanche121> hi
[11:49] <Dsff_Sdf> dr3w2morow,  there is no setting for a higher resolution
[11:50] <dr3w2morow> nvm im confusing myself
[11:50] <dr3w2morow> really? i changed mine yesterday
[11:50] <nucco> riotkittie: the two monitors have equal resolution capabilities?
[11:50] <avalanche121> I've made an ftp server, can somebody test it for me if you can join to it or not?
[11:50] <{Zeus}> avalanche: IP?
[11:50] <usr13> jstarcher, what traffic are you trying to forward to what IP?
[11:51] <dr3w2morow> system --> pereferences --> system moniter
[11:51] <jstarcher> usr13, port 6464 to 192.168.1.103
[11:51] <deviantintegral> hi. I'm having problems with kernel panics on my ubuntu server. I'm running raid5 + lvm. I managed to get the panic text via serial console, anyone have any suggestions? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40208/
[11:51] <undauntedspirit> lol
[11:52] <Dsff_Sdf> Yeah
[11:52] <Dsff_Sdf> None
[11:52] <{Zeus}> deviantintegral: when does this happen?
[11:53] <avalanche121> zeus 62.165.213.17
[11:53] <deviantintegral> {Zeus}: pretty soon after boot. It seems to depend on the IO load. I've had it stay up for a few days, but now it thinks it needs to resync the array so it goes down within 10-20 minutes.
[11:53] <avalanche121> username=user; password={nothing}
[11:53] <ihavethespeed> anyone here that can help with an ubuntu install?
[11:53] <{Zeus}> it won't find the server
[11:54] <avalanche121> thanks zeus
[11:54] <{Zeus}> ihavethespeed: what is the problem?
[11:54] <carlosV2> hi
[11:54] <carlosV2> somebody has CUPS?
[11:54] <{Zeus}> avalanche, ping workd
[11:54] <riotkittie> ihavethespeed: what issues are having you?
[11:54] <Ahadiel> avalanche121, Did you make sure to forward ports?
[11:54] <riotkittie> you having, rather?
[11:54] <usr13> jstarcher, you would probably want something like:  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth1 --dport 6464  -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.103:6464
[11:54] <ihavethespeed> im trying to dual boot vista and unbuntu on my laptop
[11:55] <{Zeus}> ihavethespeed, you are on vista now?
[11:55] <ihavethespeed> yes
[11:55] <{Zeus}> and you have a Ubuntu Live CD?
[11:55] <ihavethespeed> i have the iso i burned
[11:55] <{Zeus}> ok
[11:55] <carlosV2> somebody use CUPS?
[11:55] <ihavethespeed> i think theyre the same thing
[11:55] <usr13> jstarcher,  Not sure if I got the ehternet port right....
[11:55] <avalanche121> ahadiel; I haven't done that I think
[11:55] <wackamole> avalanche121: not connecting to 21 for me, ping works
[11:55] <iva1> hi need help with my ubuntu, it has problem with installing aplications. I have tried to install a few torrent but i cant run some of them
[11:56] <Ahadiel> avalanche121, Well yeah, I assume you are behind a router
[11:56] <ineedhelp> can someone help me with some simple shell scripting?
[11:56] <{Zeus}> yeah
[11:56] <Ahadiel> therefore you need to forward the appropriate ports
[11:56] <{Zeus}> what are you trying to do?
[11:56] <carlosV2> ineedhelp, what do you want?
[11:56] <d90> hey again I have been successful installed KDE and now running it, it is so much better then GNOME but is there any possability to make double click to open files than to use one click?
[11:56] <usr13> jstarcher,  in other words, change eth1 as needed.
[11:56] <ineedhelp> Write a bash shell script, called phonedir.sh that maintains a phone directory in a file called phonedir.txt in the invoking user's home directory. The script takes two or three arguments, with the first argument being the operation the script is supposed to do (notice this first arg starts with a -).
[11:56] <ihavethespeed> install it
[11:56] <Ahadiel> d90, It's in some settings panel somewhere
[11:56] <avalanche121> wackamole; thanks
[11:56] <ihavethespeed> the installer wont work though
[11:57] <ineedhelp> :-(
[11:57] <ineedhelp> im so confused
[11:57] <Brian_> what is better ubuntu 6.06 or ubuntu 7.04 or ubuntu 7.10 beta?
[11:57] <carlosV2> ineedhelp, in what part are you confused?
[11:57] <{Zeus}> hmm... well that is a little too advanced to be considered here
[11:57] <reporcello> hello
[11:57] <ineedhelp> im not really sure how to get started
[11:57] <Brian_> ill shorten it
[11:58] <carlosV2> ineedhelp, with: #!/bin/bash xDDD :P is a joke
[11:58] <Brian_> what is better ubuntu 6.06 or ubuntu 7.04?
[11:58] <ineedhelp> yeah
[11:58] <iva1> why dosn't the apt-get install put a script in bash when i install?
[11:58] <ineedhelp> i got that
[11:58] <dfletcher_> ineedhelp, I'd take a look at what gawk (awk) does - seems most of your script is just finding records in a text db
[11:58] <reporcello> hello people.. i'm pretty new to ubuntu.. i got a little problem whit the wlan card.. can someone help me?
[11:58] <erUSUL> !wifi
[11:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:58] <carlosV2> well, first, try to think what do you what the script does and write graphicaly (do you understand me?)
[11:58] <Fan_Of_Ur_Mom> ello
[11:58] <ae88925> I have no issues with 7.04
[11:59] <Brian_> >	what is better ubuntu 6.06 or ubuntu 7.04?
[11:59] <stinger05> hi there.. :)
[11:59] <Ahadiel> ineedhelp, Make some psuedo-code
[11:59] <erUSUL> !best | Brian_
[11:59] <ubotu> Brian_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:59] <ineedhelp> no not really
[11:59] <Danaman5> Hi everyone, every time I update my Linux kernel, a new entry for it is added to GRUB, but the old ones are not removed, so now I have like 4.  Is there a way to remove all of the unnecessary startup options?
[11:59] <erUSUL> Danaman5: remove the unneeded kernels
[12:00] <hawk_> ubuntu-it
[12:00] <Kyokuz> when installing ubuntu desktop version i just noticed it wanted to use 81% of the disk and do a resize, was it trying to preserve the windows partition?
[12:00] <Kyokuz> or would it still wipe the windows install?
[12:00] <Brian_> so ubuntu 7.04 is better for features and ubuntu 6.06 is better for support?
[12:00] <dremth> I have ubuntu, vista, and xp installed right now and vista has taken over my mbr. I used to have grub installed on my ubuntu partition but now grub is gone. How can I get it back?
[12:00] <reporcello> yes.. i red this..
[12:00] <stinger05> how do i connect to the internet on ubuntu feisty using a dedicated (usrname & password) connection ?
[12:01] <usr13> jstarcher,  where eth1 is ethernet port that 192.168.1.103 is connected to.
[12:01] <erUSUL> Kyokuz: depends on what you tell the installer to do... both options are aviable during install
[12:01] <carlosV2> ineedhelp, try to do a diagram with lines that you want. for example: first, detect param 1
[12:01] <carlosV2> + If 'a' do that
[12:01] <carlosV2> \if 'b' do that
[12:01] <iva1> is there any good torrent clients to Linux except azureus, ktorrent, bittorrent
[12:01] <dr3w2morow> kyokuz: i think it does wipe it but im not so smart for this... i think it would make it faster? im not sure but i just put 98% on mine
[12:01] <usr13> jstarcher,  where ethX is ethernet port that 192.168.1.103 is connected to.
[12:01] <ae88925> LTS will be supported for a longer period
[12:01] <Brian_> oh
[12:01] <magnetron> !deluge > iva1
[12:01] <ae88925> 7.04 will have newer software
[12:01] <Brian_> ok
[12:01] <reporcello> my wlan card read the name of the wireless lan
[12:01] <avalanche121> can you try again now, (ftp server) 62.165.213.17
[12:02] <carlosV2> to develop a program/script, first, you need to think the things what you want do and how do you want. is imposible to do something without an idea of what you want
[12:02] <VWJ1bnR1> For Ubuntu support is there a number I could call, just like for Microsoft?
[12:02] <stinger05> how do i connect to the internet on ubuntu feisty using a dedicated (usrname & password) connection ?
[12:02] <ae88925> avalanche: Are you NATting FTP through IPTables?
[12:02] <reporcello> when i try to connect the led on the wlan car do not flash
[12:02] <dremth> I have ubuntu, vista, and xp installed right now and vista has taken over my mbr. I used to have grub installed on my ubuntu partition but now grub is gone. How can I get it back?
[12:02] <carlosV2> somebody use CUPS?
[12:02] <Brian_> the install program for ubuntu 7.10 beta wont work,is it becuz its in beta right now?
[12:02] <VWJ1bnR1> dremth: I have that problem, too.
[12:02] <magnetron> VWJ1bnR1: yes, canonical sells support
[12:03] <FlyingPig> VWJ1bnR1 you must buy that
[12:03] <erUSUL> carlosV2: anybody that uses a printer under ubuntu uses CUPS
[12:03] <acglaphotis> dremth: install burn a supergrub disk
[12:03] <Pici> Brian_: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:03] <dremth> acglaphotis, i have one
[12:03] <stinger05> how do i connect to the internet on ubuntu feisty using a dedicated (usrname & password) connection ?
[12:03] <dremth> acglaphotis, i dont know how to use it though
[12:03] <acglaphotis> dremth: humm
[12:03] <acglaphotis> dremth: wait a bit
[12:03] <FlyingPig> VWJ1bnR1 the corp i worked at installed ubuntu on 50 computers and we bought support
[12:04] <dremth> acglaphotis, for what?
[12:04] <nucco> stinger05: what kind of connection?
[12:04] <carlosV2> ok erUSUL, thanks. my problem is that i want to print inside a LAN. other times, i wirte in configuration file, a line to accept conections of other PCs. now, i'va this line 'listen localhost:631'. what can i write to do this?