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=== Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get | Gutsy Beta (UNSTABLE): http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/gutsy/beta/
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Ed933Hey everyone, I've got a little problem08:54
Ed933the panel strangely dissappeared08:55
Ed933disappeared08:55
Ed933and I made it come bak08:55
Ed933but now I can't shutdown the computer?!08:55
Ed933since the shutdown button is gone08:55
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annaimkonkican xubuntu run on an old mac 6500 series??09:37
tonyyarussoannaimkonki: what kind of specs does it have?09:37
annaimkonkihttp://www.mac-pro.com/s.nl/it.A/id.106/.f09:38
annaimkonki250 mhz.. 4gb...09:39
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tonyyarussoannaimkonki: Do you know the RAM with your particular model?09:39
annaimkonkijust a moment09:40
annaimkonkivirtual mem: 97mb built in:96mb09:41
annaimkonkidsk cach: 3mb09:41
tonyyarussook09:41
annaimkonkimachine speed: 250 mhz09:41
tonyyarussoI believe the answer is yes, it can.  However, I don't know that it would be ideal.09:41
tonyyarussoRegardless, you will definitely need to use the !alternate CD to install.09:42
annaimkonkitonyyarusso: which distro do in your opinion is good to run old computers... macs particularly09:42
tonyyarussoI would suggest trying Xubuntu, but keeping in mind you may need to look into other graphical environments.  I have a little bit of experience with some of those, so may be able to help.09:42
tonyyarussoannaimkonki: I'd still use the Ubuntu base, but just switch up the graphics to something like Fluxbox, IceWM, or one of those lighter ones.09:43
tonyyarussoannaimkonki: PPC is no longer an official architecture for Ubuntu, but still exists and is well supported/developed by the community.09:43
tonyyarussoannaimkonki: The system requirements page says "Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 64 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to use at least 128 MB RAM.", and you're halfway between the two, so it may well be fine.  The other possibility is that you will just want to tweak things like running background daemons, use Epiphany instead of Firefox, and that sort of thing.09:45
annaimkonkiok... thanks, which cd should i download09:46
annaimkonkithe cd works for x86 and power pcs??09:47
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tonyyarussoannaimkonki: PPC09:48
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annaimkonkithese are the sc images.. xubuntu-7.04-deesktop-amd64.iso the otheris i38609:53
annaimkonkiand there is a alternate download tonyyarusso09:53
tonyyarussoannaimkonki: a sec - I'll figure out where they are09:54
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tonyyarussoannaimkonki: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-powerpc.iso09:55
annaimkonkitonyyarusso: thanks alot...09:56
tonyyarussonp09:56
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annaimkonkiokay i have xubuntu and i want to install is to my ppc... do i need to shut the mac down???10:26
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oshiii-_^oshi-11:24
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OiPenguinnHas anyone experience a problem similar to this? Se screenshot: http://lars.kvisle.no/error_wireless.jpg11:51
OiPenguinnOnce is added on occational reboots and it keeps getting more and more. In a few weeks, the entire top of my screen will be filled with wireless icons.11:52
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evgeHi, I'm running 7.04 and want to update to 7.10 beta, how to do that ?11:59
nanonyme#ubuntu+1 is the right channel for this12:01
nanonymeuntil 18. day of this month12:01
nanonyme18th even :)12:01
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OiPenguinnI have an unreliable CD-drive. Is there an easy way to upgrade to 7.10 beta without downloading the image?12:14
totalwormfaceyes12:21
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totalwormfacesudo update-manager -c -d12:22
OiPenguinnBokstavelig talt, eller representerer -c -d noe? Jeg er ikke erfaren terminalbruker.12:22
totalwormfaceit's looks for beta releases12:23
cjaeif running to instances of x why cannot have two volume controls?12:25
cjae-to +two12:25
OiPenguinntotalwormface: great. I'm at it.12:26
gnomefreakno -c is needed its used by default12:28
cjaewhat should I do with this W: GPG error: http://packages.dfreer.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D4C9CD8F7572013D12:29
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totalwormfacelook at the website of which you obtained this repo12:30
totalwormfacelook for the key, add it12:30
cjaedoes this mean I am dling packages from this repo still or will apt-get just ignore it12:30
totalwormfacei think apt ignores it, not suret12:31
cjaek12:31
cjaeI think was put there by automatix (wait for laugh) so should I just remove it from sources list or do you know if it is beneficial?12:33
totalwormfacei don't recognise the repo12:33
totalwormfaceyou can remove it from /etc/apt/sources.list without a problem12:33
cjaeok also if you don't mind12:34
cjaeI posted a xubuntu bug at launchpad12:34
cjaeand received a reply12:34
cjae** Changed in: mozilla-firefox (Ubuntu)12:35
cjaeSourcepackagename: None => mozilla-firefox12:35
cjae-- ff will not open thunderbird https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/148008 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug.12:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 148008 in mozilla-firefox "ff will not open thunderbird" [Undecided,New] 12:35
cjaedoes this mean is only for ubuntu fix?12:35
totalwormfaceyou need to follow the link to see the actual reply :P12:35
totalwormfaceah no12:36
totalwormfacexubuntu and ubuntu use the same sources :] 12:36
cjaexubuntu uses same repos12:36
cjaeya thought so12:36
totalwormfaceit's just the graphical interface which is different12:36
cjaefollowed link and nothing there12:37
totalwormfaceand the term 'ubuntu' is just used for the whole distro12:37
cjaeright12:37
totalwormfacethen, this mail is a notification of your own report12:37
totalwormface(which i find silly :P)12:37
cjaealready got one though12:37
cjaequite awhile ago but never said the **Changed in part12:38
cjaemaking me think they thought of the other direction bug12:39
cjaethunderbird never used to open ff12:39
cjaewhich is not my issue12:39
cjaetotalwormface, see what I mean12:40
cjaenice how the two app work so well together12:42
totalwormface:P12:43
cjaeo_012:43
cjaeinstalled thunderbird cause wanted to easy solution for lin -> win enigma email12:45
cjaeo_*12:46
cjaetotalwormface, what would you do to try to rectify this?12:48
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ehnkiHello, Im trying to install xubuntu on a old comp. It seems that it got problems to start gdm on first boot with the live cd. Comp specifications is 266mhz, 128mb/ram, 4mb video ram. I know, its ridiculous low. But does any one know how I might be able to install a working copy of xubuntu on this machine?02:48
PumpernickelUse the alternate install cd.02:58
ehnkiThx, ill try it out02:59
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emunkkihiya!05:38
emunkkiwhere can i get tribe-5?05:38
emunkkithe link in xubuntu.org ain't working05:39
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Pumpernickelemunkki: See /topic for the gutsy download link.  Tribe 5 is rather outdated - if you're going to install Gutsy, you should use either the Beta or the daily.06:03
emunkkiok, when is gutsy coming out?06:04
emunkkithe stable (tm) version06:04
Pumpernickelhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule06:04
emunkkiis 18th realistic?06:04
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=== Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get | Gutsy Beta (UNSTABLE): http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/gutsy/beta/
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bigredradioAnyone know a way to upgrade to Xubuntu gutsy using the ubuntu gutsy cdrom and network repositories. I can get everything from the network, but seems a waste to not be able to get from the cdrom I already have.07:40
bigredradioI have used apt-cdrom but it still pulls everything from the network,07:40
maxamillionbigredradio: if it is still pulling from the network then the versions of the software in the repositories are newer than the ones on the cd07:42
bigredradiowow. Cd is only two days old.07:42
bigredradioapt-get update shows Ign for the cdrom. Is this normal. It should have updated the package list with apt-cdrom.07:43
maxamillionbigredradio: ign means its cache lists hasn't changed since last time apt scanned it ... strange it would do that the first time though07:44
bigredradiomaxamillion: I commented out all network sources and it only wanted to update one package.07:45
bigredradio:-(07:45
maxamillioninteresting07:45
bigredradioOh well. Just trying to same some bandwidth and time.07:45
maxamillionfair enough07:45
maxamillionwell i have to run07:45
maxamillionsorry i wasn't of more help07:46
bigredradiothanks anyway07:46
maxamillionanytime07:46
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jsghi, when i clicked on "South Africa" to download Xubuntu 7.04 Fiesty Fawn, the url was not found on that server, who do i talk to do fix this?07:56
hyper__chjsg: just select some other mirror07:58
hyper__chjsg: could be that the one in SA currently has some issues07:58
hyper__chjsg: that can happen07:58
jsgok, thanx07:58
hyper__chjsg: np08:00
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ZombineWhat's the network manager for Xfce?08:22
Zombine#kubuntu Guild Wars works nicely08:25
maxamillionnot sure ... i configure my network interfaces via /etc/network/interfaces for wired and if its a laptop and you need wireless then just install network-manager-gnome so you can run nm-applet in the systray08:25
Zombinemaxamillion I see....  I'll try that then.  Thanks.08:28
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wubunt1hi gays09:39
wubunt1why the fucking hell is nobody answering me?!09:46
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nikolamhi09:49
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nikolamWow, we are so active here :) I hardly have time to compile kernel while waiting for another massage :)10:38
zoredacheo.O10:38
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wbadger:p10:40
nanonymenikolam, how much time does it take for you to compile a kernel?10:40
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nikolamI duuno, since ncurses does not comes with ubuntu, I lost my interest since :)10:41
self_enquiryxubuntu 7.10 will be released in the same day as ubuntu?10:42
nanonymenikolam, how so ncurses doesn't come with ubuntu?10:42
nikolamIts the same thing, ask on #ubuntu+1 for dev versions.10:42
nikolamnanonyme: On install cd you dont have them, you got to go to net to download if you don`t have Net upon install10:43
nanonymeyeah, xubuntu is just a package abstract or whatever the term is...10:43
nikolamnanonyme: yes, but xubuntu use less resources :)10:43
nanonymesomeone just needs to write what packages it includes10:43
nikolamThere must be a list somewhere..10:44
nanonymei think the package names were ubuntu-desktop/kubuntu-desktop/xubuntu/desktop10:44
nanonymeoops10:44
nanonymexubuntu-desktop of course10:44
nanonymei haven't checked it in depth what they mean10:45
nanonymebut they're just a kind of packages afaik10:46
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Zach_07When I try to install xUbuntu it gives me this error: Disk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table and this: mount: special device /dev/hda2 does not exist. So what can I do?11:59
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