[04:08] <Netham45> what software does edubuntu come with?
[04:16] <LaserJock> well, lots
[04:17] <LaserJock> there's the usual Ubuntu software
[04:17] <LaserJock> plus LTSP server software
[04:17] <LaserJock> and on the Addon CD there's quite a bit of educational software
[04:19] <LaserJock> Netham45: does that help?
[04:20] <Netham45> yea
[11:15] <tsurc> ogra: bit ruff and ready but its a start https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuProxy
[11:16] <ogra> tsurc, great, thanks :)
[11:19] <tsurc> hopefully we'll have a few more of these installs to do. Part of your schools specialism in maths and computing is to kit some of our feeder primary schools out with thin client networks like ours.
[01:04] <pips1> ogra: you up?
[01:05] <pips1> I'm having trouble burning the amd64 server iso ... although the file size is 690 it doesn't seem to fit on a regular 700 cd :-/
[01:40] <groovedreamer> hello
[01:46] <ogra> pips1, thats weird
[01:47] <ogra> its working with i386 here
[01:47] <ogra> which is 695M
[01:48] <pips1> yes, quite wierd :-(
[01:50] <pips1> arg, another prob is that I can't get rsync to work
[01:50] <pips1>  rsync -av --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/gutsy-server-amd64.iso .
[01:50] <pips1> @ERROR: Unknown module 'edubuntu'
[01:50] <pips1> rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1171)
[01:52] <pips1> I don't get it. Why is it complaining about the "module" edubuntu? It seems to think that the /edubuntu path should be the file to sync??
[01:54] <groovedreamer> have a question
[01:54] <groovedreamer> how does wine work?
[01:54] <groovedreamer> can i run dos programs on ubuntu?
[01:55] <groovedreamer> i have no idea how wine works
[01:55] <groovedreamer> is it possible to run exe files ?
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> wine is "an emulator" (its not, but thats the easy description)
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, it will run exes
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> and i suspect it runs some dos stuff
[01:56] <ogra> pips1, rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/edubuntu/daily/current/gutsy-server-amd64.iso
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> dosbox is probably better suited for dos stuff though
[02:03] <pips1> ogra: thanks!
[02:03] <pips1> that works
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> eek. gutsy installers not working :| (its not an edubuntu cd, i just happen to be here)
[02:15] <groovedreamer> Kamping_Kaiser: i have installed wine how can I run exe file now
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> dont know. tried double clicking?
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> theres nothing i need from windowsland
[02:16] <groovedreamer> ok i understand
[02:16] <groovedreamer> tried clicking doesnt work
[02:16] <groovedreamer> hmm
[02:17] <groovedreamer> maybe dos emulator??
[02:17] <groovedreamer> i ll try
[02:17] <groovedreamer> or
[02:17] <groovedreamer> maybe you know any advanture game going on edubuntu?
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> tried reading the wine doco?
[02:18] <groovedreamer> not yet
[02:18] <groovedreamer> where can i find it.
[02:18] <groovedreamer> ??
[02:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> winehq
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> adventure game?
[02:19] <groovedreamer> :-)
[02:19] <groovedreamer> i would like to play some old good games
[02:20] <groovedreamer> but i dont want to install windoza just for that
[02:20] <groovedreamer> these are really small ones
[02:20] <groovedreamer> they
[02:21] <groovedreamer> adventure
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> the main ubuntu channel may be more use
[02:22] <groovedreamer> #ubuntu?
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeah
[02:22] <groovedreamer> ok
[02:22] <groovedreamer> thxc
[03:39] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> morning
[03:48] <pips1> hi sbalneav
[03:48] <tsurc> well that went well.... not!
[03:48] <sbalneav> tsurc: Context?
[03:49] <tsurc> ran an update over lunch time on my gutsy server..... took my network cards out!
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> LOL!
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry :|
[03:49] <tsurc> still it is an odd intel server board
[03:50] <tsurc> now..... wheres that beta cd? *goes hunting under desk somewhere*
[03:52] <ogra> the first install in two days that went half way through ....
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[03:54] <tsurc> coffee wont make it better. Cheese on toast will :)
[04:01] <bddebian> Heya
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[04:02] <tsurc> found it! lets see exactly how long it'll take me to install edubuntu gutsy + squid + dansguardian + transparently proxying on the same box. 3pm now I'll report back soon
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> tsurc, good luck
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnight all :)
[04:15] <tsurc> gnight
[04:42] <tsurc> 40mins in and its started to build the thin client chroot.
[04:44] <pips1> ogra, I don't know what is wrong with my box, but I can't write any iso's to cd . sigh :-((
[04:44] <pips1> sorry I'm not much help with testing
[04:55] <tsurc> typical, half way through an install and.........
[04:56] <tsurc> answers on a post card please ;)
[05:03] <tsurc> in the absence of any whitty comebacks. The power failed. :( maybe I'll try again tomorrow
[05:56] <LaserJock> ogra: I did a fresh install of Edubuntu last night on my laptop
[05:56] <ogra> went well ?
[05:56] <LaserJock> install went well
[05:56] <ogra> i just finished a server install here
[05:56] <LaserJock> post install behavior was not so great
[05:57] <ogra> oh ?
[05:57] <ogra> what was wrong ?
[05:57] <LaserJock> well, there's the "panel doesn't show up until you click" bug, but that's known I think
[05:57] <ogra> nvidia bug, yeah
[05:58] <LaserJock> I don't have nvidia
[05:58] <LaserJock> hmm
[05:58] <LaserJock> that's a trivial thing though that'll get fixed
[05:58] <LaserJock> but a show-stopper is that scrollkeeper-update doesn't want me to install packages :(
[05:59] <ogra> hmm there was just a discussion in the meeting about it and people seemed to agree its nvidia related
[05:59] <ogra> LaserJock, ouch
[05:59] <ogra> tell that to seb128 immediately if thats not filed yet
[05:59] <LaserJock> if anything calls scrollkeeper-update in postinst (which is a lot of packages, btw) then it pegs my CPU and just sits there
[05:59] <LaserJock> my machine is virtually unusable until I killall scrollkeeper-update
[06:00] <LaserJock> and I have to do that for every package that calls it :(
[06:00] <LaserJock> overall my RC experience is not as good as Beta or dist-upgrade from Feisty, which is no fun
[06:00] <LaserJock> but the install itself was great
[06:01] <LaserJock> and nothing Edubuntu-specific went wrong that I see
[06:01] <ogra> thats good :)
[06:01] <ogra> i had the worst test days ever ...
[06:01] <ogra> everyx install i made since tuesday made another piece of HW die
[06:09] <LaserJock> :(
[06:10] <ogra> well, i had at least one that just finished
[06:10] <ogra> and one -desktop install in vbox
[06:10] <LaserJock> mine installed great
[06:10] <LaserJock> and then I poped in the addon cd
[06:10] <LaserJock> and installed some more stuff
[06:10] <ogra> cool
[06:11] <LaserJock> so is RC as big for testing by users as Beta is?
[06:12] <ogra> indeed
[06:12] <LaserJock> in some ways it seems like RC is a bit too late
[06:12] <ogra> well, we should have scheduled one milestone less
[06:12] <LaserJock> I was thinking we could have a "Test RC" note on edubuntu.org
[06:12] <ogra> so beta and RC could have moved one week
[06:14] <LaserJock> I even had a chance to use gnash last night
[06:14] <ogra> did it work ?
[06:15] <LaserJock> of course my wife came home right when I was done with the install
[06:15] <LaserJock> so I didn't have time to install the usual goodies
[06:15] <LaserJock> and she wanted to go see Jay Leno's website
[06:15] <LaserJock> which has a lot of flash
[06:15] <LaserJock> it was slow, but it worked
[06:15] <ogra> bad guy
[08:30] <joebob777as7_> mouse on thin client isn't working what should i check? i tried ps/2 and usb
[08:59] <sladen> who here has an an _installed_ system
[08:59] <sladen> and an off-centre usplash progress bar?
[09:00] <sladen> I would like you to test a fix
[09:03] <joebob777as7_> that'd be me sladen
[09:04] <sladen> joebob777as7_: bingo, can you try  http://www.paul.sladen.org/ubuntu/upload/edubuntu-artwork-usplash_0.1.0-52sladen1_i386.deb
[09:04] <sladen> and follow up to bug  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-artwork/+bug/135319
[09:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 135319 in edubuntu-artwork "Usplash progress bar not centered on the monitor" [Undecided,In progress] 
[09:05] <joebob777as7_> sladen, i have 64 bit clients...
[09:06] <joebob777as7_> let me go grab an i386 client
[09:06] <sladen> joebob777as7_: http://www.paul.sladen.org/ubuntu/upload/edubuntu-artwork-usplash_0.1.0-52sladen1.debdiff  is here if you're able to apt-get the source
[09:08] <joebob777as7_> so i need to chroot into my i386 and dpkg -i that deb?
[09:09] <LaserJock> if it's the clients that are messed up
[09:09] <joebob777as7_> fixed the mouse issue btw
[09:14] <sladen> joebob777as7_: I have no idea how it'll interact;  I probably wouldn't bother
[09:14] <sladen> is there somebody here with an installed i386 system who see the off-centre progress bar
[09:14] <LaserJock> mine's fine
[09:15] <sladen> LaserJock: okay, you're running at  !=  640x480
[09:15] <LaserJock> running what?
[09:16] <joebob777as7_> sladen, looks the same to me
[09:17] <sladen> joebob777as7_: if you have a chance;cd somewhere  apt-get source edubuntu-artwork ; sudo apt-get build-dep edubuntu-artwork ; wget http://www.paul.sladen.org/ubuntu/upload/edubuntu-artwork-usplash_0.1.0-52sladen1.debdiff ; cd  edubuntu-artwork-0.1.0 ; patch -p1 < ../edubuntu-artwork-usplash_0.1.0-52sladen1.debdiff ; debuild -uc -us ; sudo dpkg -i ../edubuntu-*sladen1*deb ; sudo reboot
[09:17] <joebob777as7_> lol
[09:17] <sladen> joebob777as7_: if you've tried to install that in an i386 chroot on an amd64 box, it won't make any difference
[09:17] <joebob777as7_> sladen, i installed in i386 chroot and booted my x60 tablet still off center
[09:18] <sladen> anything in a chroot.  will make no difference
[09:18] <LaserJock> sladen: we do LTSP
[09:18] <joebob777as7_> oh forgot to rebuild image hold on
[09:19] <LaserJock> joebob777as7_: are you working on the client?
[09:19] <joebob777as7_> did it all on the server now rebuilding image
[09:19] <LaserJock> right, but what is off-center
[09:19] <LaserJock> the splash on the server or the client?
[09:19] <joebob777as7_> client
[09:20] <LaserJock> right
[09:20] <joebob777as7_> still off center...
[09:20] <joebob777as7_> no luck sladen ...
[09:21] <sladen> joebob777as7_: can you get me a screenshot/digital camera shot?
[09:23] <LaserJock> sladen: do you seriously have that many open?
[09:28] <sladen> the best way to debug this further might be to alter the .png and check we really are getting a new usplash
[09:29] <joebob777as7_> i installed the deb now how do i uninstall to get back to how it was?
[09:30] <sladen> sudo apt-get install edubuntu-artwork=0.1.0-52 edubuntu-artwork-usplash=0.1.0-52
[09:35] <joebob777as7_> both are sent sladen
[09:38] <joebob777as7_> anyone know why i keep getting "no whitelisted driver found" when i try to enable compiz?
[09:39] <sbalneav> joebob777as7_: When you were testing, did you do an ltsp-update-kernels?
[09:40] <joebob777as7_> nope
[09:40] <joebob777as7_> so i get to try it again... lol
[09:40] <joebob777as7_> so i don't need to do an update image i need to do update kernels instead
[09:40] <joebob777as7_> sladen, trying again
[09:42] <sladen> joebob777as7_: the initramfs needs to be updated
[09:42] <joebob777as7_> sladen, works
[09:42] <joebob777as7_> sorry
[09:42] <sladen> joebob777as7_: in my humble opinion I don't think the new one was installed in the second shot
[09:42] <sladen> woo! :)
[09:42] <sladen> thank you!
[09:42] <joebob777as7_> no problem
[09:43] <sladen> joebob777as7_: could you email another photo, so I can attach it to the bug report and feel happy :)
[09:44] <joebob777as7_> sure
[09:46] <joebob777as7_> sent
[10:21] <cberlo> Hi folks.  Anyone come across any issues with thin clients "falling asleep" or going into a power save mode after a while of non-use and not able to "wake" them?
[10:21] <cberlo> This is with feisty.
[11:48] <bdmurray> I've been testing the edubuntu daily builds and have a question about the gdm login screen.
[11:50] <racter> can i change the welcome/login screen for the thin clients?
[12:16] <racter> ah i found it in the faq :)