[01:20] <LjL> Photocopy: do you think we should accept questions about Windows? Mac OS? refrigerators? cars?
[01:20] <Photocopy> Surely as an op there are rules YOU follow to keep in your position right?
[01:20] <LjL> #ubuntu is an Ubuntu support channel, as the name says
[01:20] <LjL> and there's more than 1000 people in there
[01:20] <LjL> and we have enough trouble with Ubuntu-related questions *alone*
[01:20] <Photocopy> Do the rules say "Dont help anyone not using ubuntu without a place to go?
[01:20] <LjL> so, NO, we can't take Slax questions. period.
[01:21] <Photocopy> It
[01:21] <LjL> !offtopic | Photocopy, yes
[01:21] <ubotu> Photocopy, yes: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:21] <Photocopy> listen LjL
[01:21] <Photocopy> are you paid to be here?
[01:21] <LjL> no
[01:21] <LjL> besides, it's hardly your business
[01:21] <Photocopy> Then you dont have trouble with ubuntu questions cause you don't have to be here so clearly as a voluntary act its no trouble.
[01:21] <Photocopy> bye.
[01:22] <LjL> eh no he won't get away with it that easily
[01:23] <LjL> Photocopy: i'm sorry, but i'm not satisfied by a bold statement and a "bye"... can you stick to Ubuntu questions *only* in the future?
[01:23] <LjL> because if you cannot, then i cannot unmute you.
[01:24] <LjL> you're perfectly free to ask about Slax in #ubuntu-offtopic, if you want.
[01:24] <Photocopy> wow.
[01:28] <mneptok> Photocopy: you appear to have found ##slax
[01:28] <LjL> Photocopy: an answer to that simple question please?
[01:28] <Photocopy> sorry
[01:28] <Photocopy> i didnt read it 
[01:28] <mneptok> Photocopy: that's the correct venue for your questions
[01:28] <Photocopy> here ill do it now
[01:28] <Photocopy> mneptok itll also be unanswered there.
[01:29] <mneptok> Photocopy: that's not a problem the Ubuntu community needs to love for you, though.
[01:29] <mneptok> *solve
[01:29] <Photocopy> well LjL, I don't run a computer with ubuntu atm anyway, annd itll be 6-10 weeks for shipit
[01:29] <Photocopy> so i could say no anyway
[01:30] <LjL> Photocopy: say what you prefer to say, as long as a "yes" means you *will* actually stick to Ubuntu questions and answers only.
[01:30] <Photocopy> but whatever, i wont be "offtopic" in #ubuntu thoough nobody ever cared anytime before.
[01:30] <Photocopy> been like 5 minutes
[01:30] <Photocopy> no answer in ##slax.
[01:31] <Photocopy> see why i dont wanna ask there?
[01:31] <Photocopy> omfg an answer
[01:31] <Photocopy> hax,
[01:32] <LjL> Photocopy: i'm unmuting you. please stick to !guidelines, !coc and everything in !etiquette is you want to stay in the channel.
[01:32] <Photocopy> !etiquette
[01:32] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[01:32] <Photocopy> bah
[01:33] <mneptok> Photocopy: "i don't wanna" is not a valid reason to ignore the rules of the Ubuntu community
[01:33] <Photocopy> im done in here thanks.
[01:33] <mneptok> what a charmer
[01:34] <LjL> i doubt he'll last very long in #Ubuntu, either way
[01:47] <ubotu> In #ubuntuforums-beginners, runemaste644 said: !runemaste644 is <reply>Runemaste644 is cool
[01:50] <LjL> !no botabuse is <reply> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:50] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[03:48] <Jucato> nalioth: are you around again? :(
[03:50] <nalioth> hi
[03:51] <Jucato> nalioth: sorry for that again :(
[03:51] <nalioth> no problem, that is a serial spammer (always the same MO, userinfo, etc)
[03:51] <Jucato> 2nd time this week, I'll try to take it up w/ the #kde folks once and for all
[04:56] <Tm_T> mooh
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: Do you know anything about a release roadmap for E17?
[05:07] <rob> tonyyarusso, about the same time Duke Nukem Forever will be released
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> :(
[05:11] <Tm_T> humm, snow coming
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> really?  Where are you again Tm_T ?
[05:13] <Tm_T> Finland
[05:13] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: it's slowly riding down the shoulder
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: So would it be wise of me not to even begin getting hopes up for Hardy?
[05:14] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: why not do it yourself?
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: I have it installed - you already helped me do that.  I just want it final and in the repos for everyone else.
[05:21] <Jucato> O.o
[05:22] <Jucato> that's clean? hahah :)
[05:25] <nalioth> it's vulgar, but it's clean
[05:30] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: lukin(i think thats him) has E17 repos and afaik when we get the ok i thought i remember him saying he will do it (this was after being yelled at for building it myself)
[05:30] <gnomefreak> and no im not awake ;)
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: interesting.
[05:31] <nalioth> gnomefreak: i use get_e.sh
[05:32] <gnomefreak> i grabbed his sources since they were ~30 days old i figured it was abandoned :(
[05:32] <gnomefreak> i had issues with that script during edgy maybe early feisty
[05:34] <jrib> have you tried tritium?
[05:35] <gnomefreak> no
[05:35] <jrib> python clone of ion
[05:35] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[05:37] <gnomefreak> is it as light as say flux?
[05:37] <jrib> never measured memory usage
[05:38] <jrib> i need to work out the kinks still
[05:38] <gnomefreak> boy that looks light
[05:38] <gnomefreak> http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=198107
[05:39] <gnomefreak> i cant believe its only 1 .deb
[05:40] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: http://www.fmi.fi/weather/local.html?kunta=Joensuu
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> Tm_T: not bad
[05:41] <Tm_T> yup
[05:41] <Tm_T> cold, but ok
[05:46] <Madpilot> greetings
[05:47] <gnomefreak> hello ;)
[05:47] <gnomefreak> someone should update this for python2.5
[05:51] <gnomefreak> jrib: where did you get python-plwm from? its not in repos
[05:52] <jrib> gnomefreak: sourceforge (link in the readme or install)
[05:52] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[05:53] <jrib> build from cvs
[05:54] <gnomefreak> brb
[05:57] <wii> im i good to go?
[05:57] <gnomefreak> how the hell do you run it without running from term
[05:58] <wii> :/
[05:59] <gnomefreak> wii: you were just here 2 days ago and we said it would stay for a while
[06:00] <Madpilot> wii, continual ban evasion means the bans get extended. Funny how that works.
[06:01] <gnomefreak> wii: come back in 7-10 days and we will see what happens between now and than. if you evade the ban than its likely to not get lifted
[06:02] <wii> ok
[06:05] <gnomefreak> its kind of hard to build it from cvs when you dont have a password :( connecting using anonymous i thought would have done exactly that
[06:45] <tritium> gnomefreak: I'm glad you haven't tried me
[06:45] <Hobbsee> anyone know if elky's already speaking at LCA?
[06:47] <tritium> Hi Hobbsee
[07:06] <Tm_T> LCA?
[07:12] <nalioth> Long Crustacean Association
[07:12] <Jucato> lol
[07:24] <gnomefreak> tritium: :)
[07:39] <stdin> argg, why do people suck?!
[07:40] <gnomefreak> because they were raised that way?
[07:43] <gnomefreak> stdin: what file controls the WM choices in gdm/kdm?
[07:44] <Jucato>  /usr/share/xsessions/ ?
[07:44] <stdin> erm, /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager 
[07:44] <Jucato> hm.. I though the ones in the Sessions menu sorry
[07:44] <stdin> but I know some (like KDE) have other settings for it too
[07:45] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmmmm
[07:45] <stdin> kde has a env-var and a default in /usr/bin/startkde
[07:45] <Tm_T> ok, time to go to wild & cold outdoors ->
[07:45] <stdin> no clue about gnome tho
[07:45] <gnomefreak> if i can figure out why cvs is hating me maybe i can build it and add an entry
[07:45] <Jucato> Tm_T: thanks for the assist
[07:46] <stdin> gnomefreak: WM or DE ?
[07:46] <gnomefreak> stdin: WM
[07:46] <Jucato> stdin: doesn't that control the default WM that X uses when you do startx?
[07:46] <stdin> gnomefreak: then I *think* that alternate file is it
[07:47] <stdin> Jucato: not really sure
[07:47] <gnomefreak> stdin: the problem with alternatives is i woul dhave to keep changing it if i wanted to use another
[07:49] <Jucato> gnomefreak: are you referring to the list of WM's in the Session menu in gdm/kdm?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> Jucato: yes
[07:50] <Jucato> I see gnome.desktop  there in Ubuntu, and kde.desktop in Kubuntu
[07:50] <gnomefreak> if i drop to tty and kill gdm running tritium from tty gives traceback so maybe i should figure out cvs and why its not working and just build it
[07:51] <stdin> gnomefreak: seems gnome-session looks for a var called WINDOW_MANAGER, so you could just make a script and set WINDOW_MANAGER to whatever then call gnome-session, then make a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions for it
[07:51] <gnomefreak> Jucato: yeah i found that but im thinking of building it and maybe add that option in build
[11:08] <Tm_T> hi kids
[11:09] <Mez> howdy ho Tm_T 
[11:10] <Tm_T> Mez and his evil awaynick :p
[11:10] <Mez> meh - there's nothing wrong with my awaynick
[11:11] <Tm_T> is
[11:11] <Mez> It's only away when either my PC at home or at work is not on
[11:25] <Tm_T> Mez: thats how often?
[11:25] <Mez> bout once or twice a day
[11:25] <Mez> (on my way to work, and on way home from work)
[11:25] <Tm_T> hmm, reasonable
[11:26] <Seeker`> ?
[11:26] <Tm_T> can I ask why /away isnt enough, Mez?
[11:27] <Tm_T> welcome Seeker` how we can help you?
[11:34] <Seeker`> I was just wondering what Mez does once or twice a day
[11:35] <Mez> Tm_T, cause I should really use Mez|NotHere
[11:35] <Mez> and it's so it doesnt log op highlights when I'm "away2
[11:37] <Tm_T> Mez: ?
[11:38] <Mez> Tm_T, if I stay as "Mez" when I disconnect, it'll log any !ops hilights and send them to me when I reconnect
[11:38] <Mez> if I'm Mez|Away !ops wont hilight me
[11:38] <Mez> therefore I wont see them, however, if someone legitimately highlights me - they'll use Mez|Away - which will get logged
[11:39] <Tm_T> hum
[11:50] <nalioth> get a rope.
[11:52] <Tm_T> humtidum
[12:36] <PriceChild> *has internets*
[01:10] <Pici> yay
[02:06] <Amaranth> Who the hell is penguincentral?
[02:07] <Pici> Just some guy.
[02:09] <Amaranth> I was close to banning him the other day too
[02:13] <Pici> Whats the limit to the number of bans a channel can have? I only see 43 in -offtopic
[02:14] <Mez> depends on whehter ther channel is set _L
[02:14] <Mez> +L *
[02:17] <Pici> hm
[02:28] <Pici> Seveas: Aoirthoir (groan) made a (commented) change to the ircguidelines page...
[02:38] <jdong> why are people other than the IRC Council allowed to edit the polcy page?
[03:14] <Hobbsee> Seveas: ping
[03:15] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: pong
[04:31] <PriceChild> jdong, well they shouldn't... and it asks them not to iirc
[04:38] <Tm_T> who is this Aoirthoir guy anyway?
[04:38] <Hobbsee> PriceChild!!!
[04:38] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: a moron
[04:38] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: I'm not!
[04:39] <Pici> Hobbsee: I mentioned it before you joined, but Aoirthoir wrote a long (commented) reply to seveas's change to the ircguidelines
[04:47] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, :)
[04:48] <PriceChild> *wonders whether to use opendns*
[04:48] <maxamillion> PriceChild: i use it ... its a little slow at times, but its uptime is almost 100%
[04:49] <maxamillion> i have no complaints
[04:49] <maxamillion> ::knocks on wood::
[04:49] <Pici> Its uptime is better than my IPS's dns servers.
[04:49] <PriceChild> I use it at home instead of the cheapo isp I use...
[04:49] <jrib> regardless of who is making the changes, some of the changes Aoirthoir suggests make sense
[04:49] <PriceChild> Will consult others on this isp I think.
[04:51] <PriceChild> has aorithoir even tried to come in here to discuss it/added something to the irccouncil agenda?
[04:51] <PriceChild> Or is he just editing wiki pages?
[04:51] <Pici> Not that I've seen.
[04:51] <mc44> jrib: a small percentage ;)
[04:51] <PriceChild> I haven't seen any emails to the ubuntu-irc or irc council lists either..
[04:52] <Pici> Is the irc-council an open list?
[04:52] <PriceChild> no
[04:52] <Pici> Oh well
[04:52] <PriceChild> but anyone can send to it in confidence
[04:52] <PriceChild> its not publically archived etc.
[04:52] <PriceChild> eeek
[04:52] <PriceChild> *runs to supervision meeting*
[04:53] <Pici> @now
[04:53] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: October 11 2007, 14:53:07 - Current meeting: Community Development Team 
[05:25] <mc44> could someone add a factiod for http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist
[05:28] <Pici> search blacklist
[05:28] <Pici> !search blacklist
[05:28] <ubotu> Found: blacklist, modules
[05:31] <Pici> Amaranth: ping
[05:32] <Amaranth> Pici: what's up?
[05:32] <Pici> Did you make a copy of the c-f blacklist and put it on the ubuntu wiki?
[05:32] <Amaranth> No
[05:32] <Amaranth> c-f?
[05:33] <Pici> compiz
[05:33] <Amaranth> oh
[05:33] <Amaranth> Just tell them their hardware is blacklisted
[05:33] <Amaranth> Don't really need to explain why
[05:33] <Pici> I'll just put the cards blacklisted in the factoid.
[05:34] <Amaranth> It's expanded
[05:34] <Pici> I just dont want to link to something on the compiz-wiki that might change after we release.
[05:34] <Amaranth> And the added ones are not on the wiki afaik
[05:35] <Amaranth> The mobility variants of the Radeon X300, X600, and X700 are blacklisted too
[05:36] <Tm_T> I just love my new quote
[05:42] <PriceChild> Amaranth, is it a blacklist... or do you work on a whitelist?
[05:42] <Amaranth> PriceChild: whitelist of drivers, blacklist of pciids
[05:43] <PriceChild> ah
[05:43] <Amaranth> Used to be blacklist of both but we ended up blacklisting everything except 3 drivers so it made more sense to have a whitelist
[05:46] <Pici> cfblacklist is <reply> The following cards are blacklisted in Compiz-Fusion due to stability & compatibility issues: Intel 965. ATI: Rs480, Rv350. ATI Mobility: x300, x600, x700. 
[05:46] <Pici> !cfblacklist
[05:46] <ubotu> The following cards are blacklisted in Compiz-Fusion due to stability & compatibility issues: Intel 965. ATI: Rs480, Rv350. ATI Mobility: x300, x600, x700.
[05:46] <Pici> That probably a good start.
[05:47] <Pici> s/That/Thats
[05:56] <mc44> Pici: still could put the link to the compiz fusion wiki to show how to get around it
[05:57] <Pici> I think we'll need a good caveat for that though
[05:57] <mc44> how about DONT DO THIS:
[05:57] <mc44> that should stop people ;)
[05:58] <Pici> Then everyone will do it.
[05:58] <mc44> yes indeed
[06:01] <PriceChild> *wonders if his /topic in +1 is still there*
[06:02] <PriceChild> :(
[06:02] <Pici> Which one?
[06:02] <Pici> 'dont run Gutsy?'
[06:06] <PriceChild> Pici, yeah that one... and it was HUGE so i chopped lots of random "common sense" stuff out
[06:06] <Pici> PriceChild: It was there for a while, but we did get a lot of random people coming in asking why they shouldn't use it.
[06:06] <PriceChild> :P
[06:07] <PriceChild> Why do people read topics when I put something like that in...
[06:07] <mc44> should put "DONT READ THE TOPIC" into the topic
[06:07] <PriceChild> But if we say "update-manager is broken... fixed packages in, wait" they immediately ask if anyone else is having problems with update-manager
[06:19] <gnomefreak> update-manager is only broken if you have unofficial packkages installed ;)
[06:26] <ubotu> MilhousePunkRock called the ops in #kubuntu
[06:26] <jpatrick> resolved
[06:36] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: it's somewhat amusing watching them wait for the rc.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> it is?
[06:36] <Hobbsee> besides it stops them asking AWTY all the time.
[06:36] <Hobbsee> which is a good idea, in general.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> i find it annoying that they are not smart enough to use daily
[06:36] <Hobbsee> dailies are often broken.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> tell them it will be released midnight ESTt ime
[06:37] <gnomefreak> EST time
[06:37] <Hobbsee> i find it annoying that they dont get that if they're doing the updates they're already running the RC.
[06:37] <gnomefreak> that too
[06:37] <gnomefreak> well that would be 5am UTC time
[06:38] <gnomefreak> grrrrrr how does debian do this 
[06:38] <Daviey> Geez, i aint getting up that early to dl it.. i need an rss feed
[06:38] <Hobbsee> Daviey: if you want to download it, go to the testing tracker, and download it now before it's announced.
[06:38] <gnomefreak> Daviey: give it more like 2-4 hours it should be released around than afaik
[06:39] <Hobbsee> *those* sorts of idiotic comments are teh ones that annoy me
[06:39] <Hobbsee> do you *really* think we'd respin the iso's again, after large amounts of testing?
[06:39] <Daviey> gnomefreak: but i need to hammer the mirrors as soon as it comes out :D
[06:40] <Hobbsee> Daviey: now that's just sheep-like.
[06:40] <Daviey> baa
[06:40] <gnomefreak> its a bad excuse and i think we should hold it back a day just to piss people off
[06:40] <gnomefreak> ;)
[06:40] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: i'd prefer to do that for the final :P
[06:40] <gnomefreak> yes 
[06:40] <gnomefreak> a few days to a week :)
[06:41] <Hobbsee> what i'd *like* to do is to release it to the torrents first for 12+ hours
[06:41] <Hobbsee> or partly on irc first, to get people seeding
[06:41] <gnomefreak> did colin ever get cryptset set up for installer/
[06:41] <Hobbsee> and then later release the http version
[06:41] <Hobbsee> unsure, didnt look
[06:41] <Daviey> Think so
[06:41] <gnomefreak> if not we might be releasing late
[06:41] <Daviey> I saw the option..
[06:41] <gnomefreak> good
[06:42] <gnomefreak> brb lets see if i fixed it
[06:42] <Daviey> surely he could ofjust ran ubiquity?
[06:42] <Daviey> ah well
[06:56] <jussi01> hmmm, so no one liked my lug factoid yesterday?
[06:56] <Pici> !lug
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <gnomefreak> jussi01: didnt see it
[06:57] <ubotu> In ubotu, jussi01 said: !lug is <reply>LUG's are Linux User Groups. You can find your local group here: http://www.linux.org/groups/
[06:58] <gnomefreak> i thought there was one but i like it
[06:58] <gnomefreak> !~lug
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <gnomefreak> !~lugs
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lugs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <gnomefreak> !lug is <reply> Lug's are Linux User Groups. You cant find your local group here: http://www.linux.org/groups/
[06:59] <ubotu> I'll remember that, gnomefreak
[06:59] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, what's the ~ do?
[06:59] <jussi01> :)
[06:59] <gnomefreak> damn bots
[07:00] <gnomefreak> !~ops
[07:00] <gnomefreak> ack
[07:00] <PriceChild> do you mean - ?
[07:00] <gnomefreak> oh yeah
[07:00] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[07:00] <gnomefreak> sorry
[07:00] <ubotu> gnomefreak called the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[07:00] <Pici> ohno
[07:00] <gnomefreak> no it didnt
[07:00] <gnomefreak> ignore it
[07:00] <PriceChild> (and ubotu would have complained anyway if there was a forgotten one)
[07:00] <Amaranth> !-ops
[07:00] <ubotu> ops aliases: kops, op, medic, calltheops, call the ops - added by Seveas on 2006-07-29 12:54:12
[07:01] <Pici> !opabuse
[07:01] <ubotu> leave the ops alone ktnxbye
[07:01] <gnomefreak> stop that
[07:01] <PriceChild> Mez, shouldn't that be "Do not abuse !~ops" ? :P
[07:01] <Amaranth> those aliases are weird
[07:01] <Mez> PriceChild,  :P
[07:01] <Pici> !-medic
[07:01] <ubotu> medic is <alias> ops - added by Seveas on 2006-12-27 15:16:01
[07:01] <Amaranth> and why the hell does !~ops even work?
[07:01] <Pici> I believe it ignores special symbols except thed ash
[07:01] <PriceChild> I guess ubotu strips characters before interpreting it.
[07:02] <Pici> !^ohmy
[07:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:02] <Amaranth> !~compiz
[07:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:02] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: because the ~ instead of - and normally ubotu doesnt care what is between ! bleh
[07:02] <Amaranth> !&$*#^@^test
[07:02] <ubotu> Failed.
[07:02] <Pici> !                                                                     test
[07:02] <Amaranth> neat
[07:02] <gnomefreak> Amaranth:  i forgot it was - 
[07:02] <Pici> !                                                                     botsnack
[07:02] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:02] <Pici> okay, I'm done
[07:02] <gnomefreak> now my channels are messed up :(
[07:03] <Amaranth> /win move ?
[07:03] <gnomefreak>  /win 10 is no longer -ops
[07:03] <Pici> :(
[07:03] <Pici> 7 is -ops for me
[07:03] <gnomefreak> brb have to reset this
[07:04] <Amaranth> would be 17 based on the order i have in xchat
[07:07] <gnomefreak> jrib: when you get time, let me know how you run tritium (sign in from gdm, use menu?) i have it installed and built and i would rather not have to do anymore liniking than possible
[07:13] <nalioth> get a rope.
[07:28] <PriceChild> *is smiling*
[07:32] <gnomefreak> im gone for a while before i get pissed off
[08:46] <Pici> 7bet!beta
[08:46] <Pici> !beta
[08:46] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) *BETA* information and release notes can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - ISOs and Torrents at  http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/ - It is development software and as such unstable, support ONLY in #ubuntu+1
[08:49] <PriceChild> anyone wanna take care of !rc? ;)
[08:49] <Pici> I'm doing it
[08:50] <Pici> !rc
[08:50] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) *RC* information and release notes can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - This is development software and as such unstable, support *ONLY* in #ubuntu+1
[09:41] <jussi01> stdin: wtf?
[09:41] <stdin> jussi01: was talking to him, not you :)
[09:42] <jussi01> stdin: yeah, I know :) Just was wtf'ing about him...
[09:42] <stdin> yeah, I don't know. but i'm keeping an eye on him
[09:43] <jussi01> stdin: thanks.... you try to help someone and....
[09:43] <jussi01> sigh
[09:43] <stdin> yeah, some people are (insert words I can't say here)
[09:43] <jussi01> lol... very true
[09:44] <gnomefreak> more trolls?
[09:44] <stdin> just someone with a bad attitude
[09:44] <stdin> seems to have shut up now tho
[09:45] <jpatrick> they'll be back...
[09:45] <jussi01> someone who was just itching for a fight...
[09:45] <gnomefreak> damn i just got here and your already talking about me ;)
[09:45] <jussi01> lol
[09:47] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[09:48] <gnomefreak> ok thats fixed
[09:48] <jussi01> gnomefreak: ??
[09:49] <gnomefreak> eh one of the mailing lists i thought i was subcribed to seemed i wasnt but i was getting email from it
[09:49] <gnomefreak> caveats == bugs?
[09:50] <jussi01> hmmm... maybe... ;)
[09:50] <gnomefreak> maybe closer to warning?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> dictionary not much help
[09:51] <gnomefreak>  3. Intimation of caution; warning; protest.
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: caveats == "things to be aware of"
[09:51] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: ty
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> possibly bad things, but won't necessarily affect you
[09:52] <gnomefreak> its on the RC page and ive never seen the word before
[09:52] <mc44> caveat emptor
[09:52] <gnomefreak> talking about bugs and such
[09:52] <jussi01> according to google... caveats=Conditions attached to an insurance quotation.
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> what mc44 said
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> "let the buyer beware"
[09:52] <mc44> caveat is quite a common word...
[09:53] <gnomefreak> they added dynticks :)
[09:54] <gnomefreak> common word in what country?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> i cant remember ever hearing it in US in last 31 years
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak just lives in a cave
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> Or the south perhaps
[09:57] <gnomefreak> yep now adays i do 
[10:01] <mc44> don't use them fancy words down here, y'all
[10:02] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:42] <PriceChild> Hey coreymon77, can we help?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> someone please shoot me
[10:59] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, hmm?
[11:02] <mneptok> http://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/10/09/ad-wizards-the-manliest-most-honest-commercial-ever-made/
[11:07] <rob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKS6q-0dwgM
[11:07] <rob> also manly :)
[11:07] <gnomefreak> im not clicking anymore damn links
[11:08] <gnomefreak> one youtube just froze me up :(
[11:08] <rob> aww.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ok lets try this again
[11:29] <gnomefreak> rob: can i have that link again please
[11:29] <rob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKS6q-0dwgM
[11:29] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:31] <gnomefreak> lmao
[11:32] <rob> :D