[12:04] <acglaphotis> dremth: i had to go to the bathroom
[12:04] <mrpyrover666> evening everyone
[12:04] <dremth> acglaphotis, oh :)
[12:04] <stinger05> nucco:ethernet but it has a username and password
[12:05] <mrpyrover666> hey guys any1 else here have any openarena problems?
[12:05] <acglaphotis> dremth: Well, let me boot one and see the steps you have to take
[12:05] <acglaphotis> dremth: i wont disconnect
[12:05] <dremth> acglaphotis, i thought you meant for me to wait for a new release or something :D
[12:05] <mrpyrover666> ??
[12:05] <nucco> stinger05: strange. you used it on windows?
[12:05] <dremth> acglaphotis, ok
[12:05] <stinger05> yes sure
[12:05] <stinger05> i am now lol
[12:06] <ae88925> avalanche: did you modprobe nf_nat_ftp ?
[12:06] <acglaphotis> dremth: lol, i dont think it is being developed anymore
[12:06] <nucco> stinger05: are you talking about a proxy server?
[12:06] <stinger05> no
[12:06] <nucco> what kind of equipment?
[12:06] <stinger05> its a dedicated wireless ethernet connection
[12:07] <carlosV2> well, bye
[12:07] <ae88925> stinger: Is it PPPOE?
[12:07] <nucco> stinger05: wireless. there.
[12:07] <Brian_> whats better gnome or kde??
[12:07] <nucco> stinger05: you have network-manager installed?
[12:07] <dremth> acglaphotis, the reason i want to boot to ubuntu is so i can burn my entire root directory to a dvd because im reformatting. a friend told me i could just install ubuntu and then copy all my files from the dvd to the newly installed partition and itd be like i never changed anything
[12:07] <Nighthawk420> hey everyone...I have my printer working and everything, and it has a photo tray for 4x6 and 5x7's... how do i set up the picture i have to print on that... also i have the HP toolbox thing.... please help
[12:07] <nucco> Brian_: your choice. try them both and choose
[12:07] <joseph> Anybody know where I can get good information on how to get a linksys wpc54G card working with WPA
[12:07] <ae88925> Brian: Try them both
[12:07] <stinger05> u mean in ubuntu ?
[12:07] <stinger05> yes it is
[12:07] <stinger05> PPPOE
[12:07] <acglaphotis> dremth: ok
[12:07] <stinger05> is the connection
[12:08] <Brian_> well i did
[12:08] <riotkittie> uh. if youre backing up / in its entirity, why even bother with a reinstall?
[12:08] <Brian_> i cant choose
[12:08] <nucco> Brian_: toss a coin
[12:08] <dremth> riotkittie, thats just what he told me to do :P
[12:09] <stinger05> nucco: yes it is PPPOE connection
[12:09] <acglaphotis> dremth: first, boot the disk, press enter twice or so, and then get to the  menu, press down until you get to advanced, then press GRUB, then RESTORE GRUB IN HARD DISK
[12:09] <ae88925> Brian: My experience is: KDE is more configurable, but also more resource intensive (especially if you turn on many bells/whistles)
[12:09] <stinger05> nucco: but the problem is that i cant connect using my username and password lol
[12:10] <dremth> acglaphotis, that's all?
[12:10] <nucco> stinger05: maybe someone here with a PPPOE connection can help you out
[12:10] <ae88925> GNOME: Is a little more stable, but less featureful.
[12:10] <acglaphotis> dremth: yes
[12:10] <erUSUL> !adsl | stinger05
[12:10] <ubotu> stinger05: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:10] <dremth> acglaphotis, ok, thanks. i'll try it
[12:10] <dremth> bye
[12:10] <acglaphotis> dremth: im going to it, hope it helsp
[12:10] <ae88925> I use GNOME.  I like the look better.
[12:10] <acglaphotis> dremth: im going to eat, hope it helps
[12:11] <mrpyrover666> joseph u lookin for a linksys card?
[12:11] <nucco> stinger05: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:11] <PCHQ-SERVER> hey people
[12:11] <ae88925> Brian:  If you install one (Ubuntu or Kubuntu) you can still install the other after you install the main distro.
[12:11] <ae88925> Then you can switch between GNOME and KDE at will.
[12:12] <stinger05> nucco: so the only way to connect over PPPOE is using the command line ?
[12:12] <avalanche121> can you try again now? (ftp server) 209.62.20.188; username=user; password={no password}
[12:12] <Brian_> but the kde i use is debian kde
[12:12] <nucco> stinger05: I wouldn't know that. I don't use PPPOE
[12:12] <iva1> i cant install deluge in ubuntu
[12:13] <stinger05> well its dsl right
[12:13] <stinger05> ?
[12:13] <PCHQ-SERVER> On my LAN, i can type http://<hostname> and it works fine... on my winxp box running apache, but not on my ubuntu server box... it only works for http://<ip address>  any ideas?
[12:13] <iva1> i have downloaded the tarball file
[12:13] <ae88925> You could install GNOME from debian repositories
[12:13] <Brian_> can u install debian kde and ubuntu like a dual boot?
[12:13] <fujin> PCHQ-SERVER: is the hostname in your /etc/hosts
[12:13] <fujin> ?
[12:13] <ae88925> Brian: Yes.
[12:13] <fujin> ipaddress<tab>hostname
[12:13] <PCHQ-SERVER> lemme check
[12:14] <dxdt> iva1: ktorrent is better, but usually there is a simple package file for deluge that can be downloaded and then double clicked to installed with gdebi installer
[12:14] <nucco> stinger05: mine plugs straight into my ethernet port, no fancy stuff attached.
[12:14] <Brian_> :-)
[12:14] <Brian_> but how
[12:14] <iva1> dxdt: i have tried but i get a message from it  error: libc6
[12:14] <iva1> i have installed libc6
[12:14] <emeriste> I've been using ubuntu for a few months now.. the problem is that it works so well that really I can't learn anything new anymore.
[12:14] <mrpyrover666> guys does any1 know a good wep/wpa injector software for ubuntu?
[12:15] <Dremth> THANKS so much! it worked. on ubuntu right now :)
[12:15] <bastid_raZor> anyone know of a Command line to burn an iso ?
[12:15] <Dremth> gtg again :) bye
[12:15] <ae88925> If you install GNOME, then you can select your session from the KDE logon screen
[12:15] <dxdt> iva1: hmm.  what about sudo dpkg -i thenameofthe.deb   ?  at the command line?  What error does that say?  Might give more info than gdebi?
[12:15] <erUSUL> bastid_raZor: dvd or cd?
[12:15] <Brian_> THANKS!!!!!
[12:15] <PCHQ-SERVER> etc/hosts has 2 lines, 1: 127.0.0.1  localhost, 2: 127.0.1.1  <hostname>
[12:15] <bastid_raZor> erUSUL: cd
[12:16] <Brian_> ill try it right now on virtualbox
[12:16] <Brian_> g2g
[12:16] <nucco> PCHQ-SERVER: you type only http://   ?
[12:16] <zachary> booted from livecd to try to install, and i am presented with login screen after boot
[12:16] <zachary> what do i put for username/password
[12:16] <PThomas> Hi, I'm using GParted via LiveCD and I get the error when 'Resize /dev/sda1 from 110.35GiB to 29.30GiB
[12:16] <specialKevin> I was wondering if anybody knew how I could backport php5.2 from feisty to dapper
[12:17] <PCHQ-SERVER> http://hostname is what im going for
[12:17] <specialKevin> currently dapper only has php5.1
[12:17] <bastid_raZor> zachary: your username and password
[12:17] <dxdt> iva1: You also need the boot libraries   (packages with names like libboost--blah) installed.  I think libboost-filesystem-something in synaptic
[12:17] <PCHQ-SERVER> it works perfect on my winxp apache server
[12:17] <zachary> yeah thanks...no i just started the livecd for the first time
[12:17] <PThomas> Check filesystem on /dev/sda1 for errors and (if possible) fix them
[12:17] <zachary> i am _installing_ livecd
[12:17] <PThomas> How do I fix them?
[12:17] <Sukoshi> Hi, a quick question. What are the paths to the utilities that you normally use through the Gnome/XFCE control-panels/menus ?
[12:17] <bastid_raZor> zachary: i've never hard of the livecd asking for user/pass
[12:17] <erUSUL> bastid_raZor:  wodim -v speed=n dev=/dev/whatever driveropts=burnfree cdimage.iso
[12:17] <bastid_raZor> erUSUL: thanks
[12:17] <iva1> dxdt: i am getting error from python
[12:18] <Sukoshi> I'm using Fluxbox, and while I could wrestle with the relevant ifconfig/iwconfig/route etc., I like the quick config utilities because they're well, quick :)
[12:18] <dxdt> iva1: ahh, excellent.  More info?  What does the error say?  What does googling the error give?
[12:18] <Sukoshi> And I want to add them to my Fluxbox menus.
[12:18] <zachary> anyone know why i might get a usename password prompt on my first time trying to install Ubuntu from the live cd?
[12:18] <iva1> dxdt: can't find python-suport and python-notify
[12:18] <PThomas> How do I check the filesystem for errors?
[12:18] <erUSUL> !fsck
[12:18] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[12:18] <Azzkikr> fsck
[12:18] <usr13> PThomas, fsck
[12:19] <usr13> PThomas, But do it on unmounted file system only.
[12:19] <riotkittie> zachary: try ubuntu/ubuntu ... altho you should not need eitehr, afaik
[12:19] <riotkittie> brb
[12:19] <PThomas> usr13: Can I run that through livecd or do I have to be running on the main partition?
[12:19] <usr13> PThomas, yes
[12:19] <PCHQ-SERVER> fujin: is that correct?
[12:19] <dxdt> iva1: PM me the exact error if you could.
[12:19] <arrow> I made internet radio mp3s open with music box on firefox, how do I change this to totem movie player?
[12:20] <PThomas> usr13: it returns fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[12:20] <zachary> riotkittie: yeah i know, it should have just dumped me into a working system.  ubuntu/ubuntu did not work
[12:20] <Azzkikr> fsck 1.40 WIP is common
[12:20] <ae88925> zachary: Which liveCD are you using? Version...
[12:20] <PThomas> Azzkikr: Which means?
[12:20] <emeriste> One of the main reasons I switched to Linux was for the intellectual challenge. But Ubuntu works so well, and so easily, that now I have gone months with no problems and no needs. And with no problems or needs then you can't learn anything.
[12:20] <Azzkikr> PThomas: it's ok :D
[12:21] <PThomas> Azzkikr: So why do I get an error with resizing /dev/sda1?
[12:21] <sacamano> hi, i tried to install a package from a tar and it gives me this error
[12:21] <Azzkikr> that, i don't know
[12:21] <sacamano> make
[12:21] <sacamano> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:21] <PThomas> Well wait, it says /dev/sda1 is mounted.
[12:21] <PThomas> Should it be mounted on livecd?
[12:21] <sacamano> it said ./configure and then sudo make
[12:21] <zachary> ae88925:Ubuntu 7.04 amd64
[12:21] <ae88925> sacamano: did configure run OK?
[12:22] <sacamano> ae88925 i think so
[12:22] <PCHQ-SERVER> fujin: ?
[12:22] <sacamano> i dont know, it ran a buncha stuff and i didnt really check
[12:22] <ae88925> sacamano: something must have failed in the configure, because configure creates the make file
[12:22] <ae88925> and the make file is missing
[12:22] <sacamano> any ideas what to do? its r-base
[12:23] <ae88925> zachary: What OS, if any, is on the HDD?
[12:23] <Heatryn> hello, i have a ipw2200 wireless card en i want to use wpa encryption in combination with a static ip
[12:23] <Heatryn> is it possible?
[12:24] <arrow> I made internet radio mp3s open with music box on firefox, how do I change this to totem movie player?
[12:24] <iva1> dxdt: python-notifier is not i dapper only feasty
[12:24] <dxdt> Heatryn: yes.  ipw2200 + ubuntu work pretty well
[12:24] <zachary> SATA1 is a brand new HDD.  SATA2 is a storage HDD with no OS on it, and SATA3 has Gentoo
[12:24] <iva1> dxdt: i need that package to build
[12:24] <gaurish> where does wget save its download by default??
[12:24] <Zhiva> Hello all, I have a little question i hope someone might know the answer to. I'm installing ruby, with rubygems. I first tried with .deb-files, but found out i needed to compile it myself. The problems is, after doing the compiles and make installs, it still looks for the old bins (which were located in /usr/bin, as opposed to /usr/local/bin). Any idea how to "rehash" the path?
[12:24] <zachary> ae88925:i'm trying a boot with only the blank HDD connected
[12:24] <dxdt> iva1: oh yikes.  Yeah that maybe why you are having problems and such.  Dapper is a bit old, unfortunately.  This all makes more sense now.
[12:24] <dxdt> gaurish: in the directory that you executed wget from
[12:25] <iva1> if i want to uppgrade from dapper to feasy
[12:25] <iva1> do i have to reinstall everything or is it possible to upgrade
[12:25] <nucco> iva1: you can upgrade
[12:26] <iva1> any howto? =)
[12:26] <gaurish> dxdt, i started donwloading debian dvd now my home distecory is getting filled can i move it to another directory?
[12:26] <nucco> iva1: this should work: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/upgrade-ubuntu-edgy-to-feisty/
[12:26] <dxdt> gaurish: not that I know of without restarting it.  Why the DVD?  Why not something smaller like the netinstall cd if I may ask?
[12:27] <foug> will 7.10 use the newly released kernel? 2.6.23?
[12:27] <dxdt> nucco: are you sure?  I thought dapper to Feisty was not possible and that guide is Edgy to Feisty
[12:27] <nucco> dxdt: not sure. I figured replacing references to edgy with dapper would solve the issue.
[12:28] <gaurish> dxdt, actually i want to know how to shift my partial downloads to other directly, so used debian as a example
[12:28] <disinterested> when my pc starts useing swap everything gets jumpy,  in gkrellm memory says i have 377m in swap it says i have 1098m, i guess what im asking is if i switched the memory sticks around if that would change the memory swap values?
[12:28] <Heatryn> does the new beta has wpa+static ip automatic?
[12:28] <dxdt> gaurish: I don't know how, someone might though...
[12:29] <Puppy_> Hey, I'm having some hardware trouble. I can't access my XP drive and Ubuntu is acting like a six-year-old off Ritalin. Any ideas?
[12:29] <dxdt> Heatryn: current versions support wpa+static I"m pretty sure.  I know they support dhcp+ipw220+wpa so they MUST also support static
[12:29] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: When compiling, set your prefix.
[12:29] <Heatryn> dxdt: sure?
[12:29] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | Puppy_
[12:29] <ubotu> Puppy_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:29] <dxdt> Heatryn: not 100%, but I am 100% sure abut ipw220+wpa+Feisty+dhcp because that is what I use all the time on my laptop and it was zero config(other than typing in the wpa key)
[12:29] <Puppy_> Jordan_U: Already have it. Worked fine until about twenty minutes ago.
[12:29] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, And can you please define "acting like a six-year-old off Ritalin." :)
[12:30] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: I don't want the compile to go to /usr/bin, I want it in local. But it seems the system still thinks the old binaries are there.
[12:30] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Well ... I guess other packages depend on it being there ....
[12:30] <Zhiva> nope, removed all dependencies
[12:30] <Zhiva> it's a fresh install, so got good control
[12:30] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: I don't use Ruby much, but maybe there's an environmental variable here?
[12:30] <dxdt> iva1: I don't think that you can upgrade from Dapper to Feisty, or if you can, it is not recommended.  You may have to go to Edgy first then Feisty.  O
[12:30] <Zhiva> even whereis says the files are there, but in reality they are not
[12:30] <millhouse> i'm having some issues w/twinview and my nvidia card and dual monitors
[12:30] <Puppy_> Jordan_U: It's loading much slower than usual. And Nautlus is really spotty. Also the desktop icons keep disapearing.
[12:31] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: it's not a ruby thing, I've experienced it before on other things
[12:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> hi
[12:31] <Zhiva> it's like apt-get remove doesn't remove the "memory"
[12:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> is kubuntu 7.10 coming with KDE 4?
[12:31] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: I meant as in, I'm not certain what env vars Ruby wants.
[12:31] <dxdt> Azhi_Dahaka: negative.
[12:31] <dxdt> it made me sad
[12:31] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, I would do an fsck, "sudo touch /forcefsck" then reboot and it should run one on the next boot
[12:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> kthxbai
[12:31] <millhouse> whenever i login, gnome by default puts the pannels where it wants it, even if i moved it in a previous login...  is there anyway that i can make changes stay?
[12:32] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: A cursory look over http://phrogz.net/ProgrammingRuby/rubyworld.html talks about 3 env vars (LOADPATH, RUBYPATH, and the typical PATH).
[12:32] <dxdt> Puppy_: yeah I agree with Jordan_U, weird stuffs like that happens when hard drive is having problems.  I had issues like that right before a hd died on me :-/
[12:32] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: the ruby compile and all is fine, the problem seems to be in the path. the system still thinks that /usr/bin/ruby is there, even tho I did an apt-get remove ruby*
[12:32] <superman> ive deleted my msn contacts but gaim has lil boxes that pop up  saying do you want . .. .  to added to list how do i stop/get rid of this?
[12:32] <pike_> millhouse: hmm maybe a 'sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~'  just to be sure
[12:32] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: as mentioned, I've had this trouble with trivial things like irssi earlier
[12:32] <Puppy_> Jordan_U: Does it matter that I'm getting fsck messages upon startup. Not sure what they said. Sorry.
[12:32] <dxdt> superman: #pidgin  --the gaim room will probably be most help
[12:33] <Zhiva> seems to happen when I go from deb through apt-get remove to compile
[12:33] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Check those env vars.
[12:33] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, Yes it does, I would back up anything important, then check what the errors are
[12:33] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Are you familiar with env vars? (I'm just asking to be pedantic here.)
[12:33] <millhouse> k
[12:33] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: yes, I am :)
[12:33] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Thought so.
[12:33] <Zhiva> I've allready checked them before I came in here.
[12:34] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Hmph.
[12:34] <Puppy_> Jordan_U:OK, will do. How could this be connected to the windows drive saying "Can not access drive" or something like that?
[12:34] <Zhiva> i just found something
[12:34] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: A hackish solution is to create an alias to the ruby interpreter, and that may or may not work ....
[12:34] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, So windows and Ubuntu are on different drives, or just different partitions?
[12:34] <Zhiva> apt-get remove didn't remove the symlinks it created
[12:35] <dxdt> Zhiva: you need the purge option probably  remove --purge or something like that.
[12:35] <Puppy_> Jordan_U: Completly different drives. Weird, huh?
[12:35] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Or use aptitude, which works out removing things much better.
[12:35] <Zhiva> dxdt: yeah. might be, thought purge just removed the physical packages
[12:35] <dxdt> Puppy_: could be that your ubuntu drive is messing up so It doesn't know how to talk to the windows drive.  Like its programs and such are being corrupted.
[12:35] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: yeah, but I seldom have ncurses in
[12:35] <Zhiva> afk for a cigarette
[12:36] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Does aptitude depend on curses?
[12:36] <dxdt> Zhiva: well it does that and typically removes some config files and such.  I was hoping it would kill the other things as well.
[12:36] <nny> sg nickserv identify servitude
[12:36] <Jordan_U> Sukoshi, Zhiva Both just use dpkg, the --purge simply removes config files
[12:36] <nny> hahah crap
[12:36] <inode2> Anybody got a suggestion for where to look for a job I can help furthers desktop Linux? Pay and location are fairly open (will relocate anywhere). I'm very technical & have software development(10), system admin(9?), & desktop Linux support(2yrs) skills/exp. BS in CS, over 10 yrs using OS, 7 as primary/only desktop OS. Also interned at a top Linux distribution com.
[12:36] <nny> anyone want my nick?
[12:36] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: I've used it as a drop-in replacement for apt-get and it's worked fine for me.
[12:36] <Puppy_> dxdf: How would that work? I'm accessing Windows through a grub.... Is Ubuntu even involved in that?
[12:37] <pike_> inode2: /join #ubuntu-offtopic  there are quite a few of us in there
[12:37] <dxdt> Puppy_: oh, I thought you were messing with it from inside ubuntu, my bad
[12:37] <zachary> ok now with a blank hard drive and no other hard drives installed, the live cd gives me a username and password prompt.
[12:37] <Puppy_> dxdf: No prob. Thanks.
[12:37] <Jordan_U> zachary, At a console or at the GDM?
[12:37] <inode2> pike_ thanks
[12:38] <zachary> jordan_U: GDM
[12:38] <Jordan_U> zachary, Try username "ubuntu" with a blank password
[12:38] <Jordan_U> zachary, But obviously it should log in automatically
[12:38] <zachary> jordan_U: no success...yea i know...i dont get it
[12:39] <zachary> this is with 7.4 amd64 on a dualcore amd64 machine...
[12:39] <DonL> zachary, have you tried just hitting enter? Sorry if someone's already asked that
[12:39] <zachary> DonL: blank username doesnt work
[12:39] <DonL> OK
[12:40] <Manignug> can anyone help me connect a smb server on the dmz to an ip on the lan side in the router?
[12:40] <Jordan_U> zachary, Do you get a login prompt at the tty's also?
[12:40] <atlfalcons866>  #ubuntu+1
[12:42] <zachary> jordan_U: I hopped over to TTY1, and i see at the top: "Loading, please wait...\n [User not known to the underlying authentication module\n] ^10 Kernel alive \n kernel direct mapping tables up to 100000000 @ 8000-d000
[12:42] <rsferreira> My notebook only boots Gusty on battery. On ac power it crashes some seconds after gdm is loaded, unless I set acpi=off in the kernel line. Has anyone seen something like this?
[12:43] <Jordan_U> zachary, Do you get any type of shell prompt? Have you done the CD integrity test?
[12:43] <zachary> no shell prompt, no
[12:43] <Jordan_U> rsferreira, #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy
[12:44] <enzovin> ciao
[12:44] <rsferreira> Jordan_U: I've tried there, no one has any idea on this... :(
[12:44] <enzovin> !list
[12:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:44] <veynom> how can i tell/view a list of currently installed fonts are on linux?
[12:45] <Jordan_U> rsferreira, Have you filed a bug? You can't really expect full support for a Beta OS :S
[12:46] <atlfalcons866> how can i change my ext3 to ext4?
[12:46] <veynom> add one?
[12:46] <juano__> hello room!, when will 7.10 gutsy gibbon be out __
[12:46] <pike_> atlfalcons866: mkfs? :)
[12:46] <Pelo> atlfalcons866,  as far as I know , ext4 is not available for fiesty atm
[12:47] <Pelo> veynom, anyone what ?
[12:47] <Pelo> juano__,  oct 18 2007
[12:47] <atlfalcons866> ext3 is slow
[12:47] <rsferreira> Jordan_U: yes, the bug is filled. I've been running Feisty with no problems, I just wanted to know if it's affecting other people.
[12:47] <veynom> mine was a joke
[12:47] <juano__> Pelo: cool, in a week... thanks!
[12:48] <Pelo> atlfalcons866, I'm always amazed by ppl who can see the difference a few milliseconds can make
[12:48] <kst> are there any benefits from using evdev with my logitech mx510? right now i'm using Driver "mouse" and Protocol "auto".. I would like to overclock my usb mouse to 500hz aswell =)
[12:48] <usr13> Manignug
[12:48] <usr13> !smb
[12:48] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:48] <Jordan_U> atlfalcons866, ext4 won't be any faster
[12:48] <atlfalcons866> no i dont see the difference i just saw in benchmarks
[12:49] <atlfalcons866> i used jfs xfs and i dont see a speed difference
[12:49] <Jordan_U> atlfalcons866, They are both faster in general than ext3 or 4
[12:49] <Puppy_> quick question... sudo shutdown -r now    what does this do?
[12:49] <atlfalcons866> jordan_u: ext4 will have new features like extents and allocate on flush
[12:49] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, reboots
[12:49] <Puppy_> Jordan_U ! this would not be my problem right?
[12:50] <kst> !evdev
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evdev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <sashimi_> onde
[12:50] <sashimi_> hi every body
[12:50] <bieb> how can I get the icon in the task bar to be able to lock my screen when I am away from my desk??
[12:50] <Chamunks> is there an open source cross platform screen capture program ? im mainly needing this for windoze
[12:50] <rickson> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from feisty to gutsy
[12:50] <ScarEye> Hey guys, I am about to setup a server with ubuntu 7.04, I see that 7.10 is going to be out in about 8 days.  Should I just wait for the latest and greatest ?
[12:50] <rickson> using a cdrom
[12:50] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, What are you trying to do?
[12:50] <Trunkz> Right.. err I dont think I'm in the right place, but.. is it possible to connect to xbox live via a socks proxy? (Sorry for the wrong channel)
[12:50] <ScarEye> Just use as a vpn router
[12:50] <ScarEye> that's it
[12:50] <Pelo> bieb,   right click the pannel ,  add to menu , check in the list provided
[12:51] <Trunkz> use a VPN router?
[12:51] <Puppy_> Jordan_U: than was the only weird thing I did before these problems happened. And you are saying that that would only restart the computer?
[12:51] <mmInd> Anyone know how I could save my keyboard shortcuts, and then restore them via a script?
[12:51] <rickson> does anyone know why the cdrom upgrade is hanging?
[12:51] <Jordan_U> Scarey, Depending on what you need it for it might be better to use LTS Dapper
[12:51] <Pelo> rickson,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:51] <Puppy_> Jordan_U (I don't use commandline much)
[12:51] <ScarEye> Yep it's only goning to be a VPN router.  It will have Ubuntu and OpenSWAN that's it.  Nothing more.
[12:51] <rickson> thanx
[12:51] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, Yes, that is all it does
[12:52] <Puppy_> Thanks!
[12:52] <Pelo> Trunkz, you're in the right channel but it's possilbe that the current crowd doesn't know the answer
[12:52] <bieb> Pelo, thanks
[12:52] <ScarEye> I heard they improved the kernel so that it consumes lets power.  Which means less heat..
[12:52] <Trunkz> okey lol
[12:52] <Jabapyth> im trying to connect to a webdav server, but the only options (in the nautilus 'connect to a server' dialog) are SSH and Custom Location. how do i connect to webdav?
[12:52] <Trunkz> Pelo: Its a pretty awkward situation.. Trying to basically connect to Xbox Live behind my uni firewall
[12:53] <Pelo> Trunkz, donT' tell me , I'm part of the crowd that doesn't know
[12:53] <Trunkz> I know =
[12:53] <Trunkz> =/*
[12:53] <jahshua> hello. just wondering if anyone can help me out please, my mothers computer is a couple years old and it doesnt have a wireless card in it, she is running ubuntu on it and i am wondering if someone could help me to setup a usb wireless adapter so she can pick up the wireless network here..
[12:53] <Pelo> Trunkz, you can also try searching in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[12:53] <Trunkz> Pelo: it wont be on there lol xD
[12:54] <Trunkz> This is a pretty.. sketchy subject
[12:54] <Trunkz> I dont think Ubuntu has got anything to do with this xD
[12:54] <usr13> Trunkz, I think you'd need to implement a port forwarding rule in the router.
[12:54] <Trunkz> Was wondering if there was a network or xbox 360 channel on freenode
[12:54] <Pelo> jahshua, I suggest  you look for the usb wifi adaptor model in the forum and in the hardware list    www.ubuntuforums.org   and  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:54] <Tigey> I am new to linux, but not so new to Sun/Unix.  Trying to install flash on Ubuntu 64-bit.  Flash seems to be only in the x86 variety..  Anyone know what I can do alternatively?
[12:54] <Trunkz> usr13: I'm in university, that wont do anything me thinks
[12:54] <PCHQ-SERVER> i know i already asked, but here i go again... i am running apache on winxp for my LAN only, when i want to go to it, i open the browser and type http://hostname and it works fine, i am trying to do the same thing on my ubuntu server box, but it doesnt work
[12:54] <Pelo> Trunkz,  you'dd be surprised at the stuff ppl put in the user forum, check it out
[12:54] <Ahadiel> Trunkz, try /list
[12:55] <pike_> Tigey: /msg ubotu chroot   only solution i know
[12:55] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Add unique hosthame to /etc/hosts
[12:55] <Pelo> PCHQ-SERVER,  might need samba but i'm not good with this stuff, also try asking in #networking
[12:55] <adaniels> hi, I've got a simple question...
[12:55] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Add unique hosthame & IP to /etc/hosts
[12:55] <S_R_G> upgrading to 7.10
[12:55] <Pelo> adaniels,  there is no such thing
[12:56] <S_R_G> how hard will that be
[12:56] <ScarEye> From the command line is there a way to see what packages are installed ?
[12:56] <Pelo> S_R_G, ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:56] <PCHQ-SERVER> its a dynamic ip though...
[12:56] <Seeker`> adaniels: you dont need to ask to ask a question, just ask it
[12:56] <S_R_G> no
[12:56] <S_R_G> in final release
[12:56] <S_R_G> how hard will it be
[12:56] <adaniels> when I upgraded to 7.04, a package was installed to give me fancy desktop effects
[12:56] <ndube> compiz?
[12:56] <S_R_G> i am in ubuntu studio
[12:57] <adaniels> i uninstalled that, but now i want it back: what is is called?
[12:57] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Then set up an aliaus and have apache listen for a certain IP, (of the alias)
[12:57] <S_R_G> is it possible to upgrade
[12:57] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: the default was 127.0.0.1   localhost and 127.0.1.1   hostname
[12:57] <ndube> adaniels, compiz
[12:57] <usr13> alias not aliaus
[12:57] <Trunkz> okey, well forums got nothign
[12:57] <Pelo> S_R_G,   well,  the update manager will blink in the top pannel and when you click on it the update manager dialog windows will come up and tell you there is a new release available do you want to upgrade ,  click OK ,
[12:57] <adaniels> ndube: k thnx
[12:57] <Trunkz> nothing*
[12:57] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: i tried the alias entry and got nothing
[12:57] <ndube> Trunkz, what is your question
[12:57] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Yes that is correct, that is generic hostname.
[12:57] <S_R_G> is ubuntu studio 7.04?
[12:57] <pierre__> hi someone know the of file where can put ifdown ath0 , ifup ath0 please
[12:57] <ndube> S_R_G, i think so
[12:58] <S_R_G> shouldn't ubuntu studio be with the same updtes
[12:58] <S_R_G> ?
[12:58] <Trunkz> ndube: Can I connect to xbox live via a SOCKS proxy
[12:58] <Trunkz> :P
[12:58] <pierre__> hi someone know the name of file where can put ifdown ath0 , ifup ath0 please
[12:58] <Jordan_U> S_R_G, Ubuntu-Studio is mostly Ubuntu with some applications and themes, it is not a different distribution
[12:58] <S_R_G> ok
[12:58] <S_R_G> just making sure
[12:58] <bruenig> pierre__, where you can put it? you can put it any file you please, except a binary file I presume
[12:58] <PCHQ-SERVER> i also tried winbind and added wins to my nsswitch.conf and got nothing
[12:58] <S_R_G> also, is there a network monitor tool like wireshark to monitor users web usage?
[12:59] <ndube> Trunkz, I think so...i've never tried it though...
[12:59] <adaniels> ah it was reinstalled with 7.10, thnx
[12:59] <S_R_G> and see usernames (windows 2003 domain)?
[12:59] <bruenig> !info wireshark
[12:59] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1576 kB
[12:59] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.1.5 ; cat >> /etc/host ; my-server.com  192.168.1.5
[12:59] <usr13> Something like that ^^^
[12:59] <bruenig> wireshark is pretty similar to wireshark, a bit of a learning curve
[12:59] <Pelo> S_R_G,  there is wireshark, it's in the repos
[12:59] <S_R_G> ye
[12:59] <S_R_G> but it does not work
[12:59] <outsider_>  I NEED HELP IM NEW IN UBUNTU I WANT TO USE IROFFER ???MSG ME
[12:59] <bruenig> it does
[12:59] <outsider_>  I NEED HELP IM NEW IN UBUNTU I WANT TO USE IROFFER ???MSG ME
[12:59] <S_R_G> it says there is no interface available
[12:59] <Trunkz> .. wtf
[12:59] <Trunkz> xD
[12:59] <bruenig> outsider_, stop that
[12:59] <adaniels> why does ubuntu come with compiz and not beryl? Is compiz just as good?
[12:59] <Jordan_U> !caps | outsider_
[12:59] <ubotu> outsider_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:00] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: that looks scary
[01:00] <Pelo> outofpaper, we can readlowercase thanks
[01:00] <outsider_> MY BAD
[01:00] <bruenig> S_R_G, perhaps your card or drivers do not support monitor mode
[01:00] <outsider_> zorry
[01:00] <ndube> adaniels, beryl is less stable
[01:00] <Pelo> outsider_,  and we don'T msg ppl, ask specific quesions in the channel
[01:00] <outsider_> zorry
[01:00] <ndube> adaniels, and I think it is no longer being developed, but i'm not sure
[01:00] <S_R_G> belkin, ovislink, and rhino
[01:00] <S_R_G> none work
[01:00] <pierre__> brueing :because my wireless card not resume to end hibernate and i write to console command and i want put the ligne to permanent file
[01:00] <pike_> adaniels: the two are now one.
[01:00] <S_R_G> yet in openuse, they work finbe
[01:00] <outsider_> im new in ubuntu and i wanna use iroffer ??
[01:00] <ndube> adaniels, besides, beryl is in compiz-fuzion
[01:01] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, but you would also need to edit /etc/apache/ httpd.conf and tell apache to listen on the desired IP address.
[01:01] <Pelo> outsider_,  what is iroffer , is it a linux app ?
[01:01] <adaniels> hmm firefox gives a black screen when i enable effect :(
[01:01] <Jordan_U> outsider_, It's in the repos, just install it with apt / synaptic
[01:01] <ndube> adaniels, compiz and compiz-fuzion are two seperate entities, the latter still being beta
[01:01] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, But, if you just use the IP address instead, nothing needs to be done.
[01:01] <bruenig> S_R_G, perhaps the drivers weren't compiled with monitor mode enabled, there is no distributed build script system like superior distros so it is hard to tell, compile the drivers yourself and make sure they have that mode enabled
[01:02] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, http://192.168.1.5/my-website/
[01:02] <kruckmartinc>  hi all, just done a fresh install of kubunt, however whenever i try and install something through cmdline it says it can't find the package, and although adept installer shows me all the packages, it won't let me install them - they are simply greyed out, anyone know whats wrong?
[01:02] <specialKevin> does anybody know where you can go to view the contents of actual .deb files, I want to see what flags are uses in creating the binary package of php for ubuntu
[01:02] <Pelo> outsider_,   sudo apt-get install iroffer
[01:02] <mray> i need help in mounting my NAS drive to my Ubuntu.
[01:02] <outsider_> iroffer is a xdcc server to serv mp3 files
[01:02] <adaniels> ndube: should i uninstall compiz-fusion?
[01:02] <Pelo> outsider_,   sudo apt-get install iroffer
[01:02] <ndube> kruckmartinc, what is the error?
[01:02] <bruenig> specialKevin, the deb is already binary so that is of no use, you would need the source and build script
[01:02] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: the whole point is to not have to use the ip address, since it is going to be dynamically assigned
[01:02] <ndube> adaniels, if it works for you...keep it
[01:02] <Merlintosh> Hi guys When I try ntfs3g  it says windows was not shut down correctly
[01:02] <Merlintosh> how can i fix that
[01:03] <kruckmartinc> eh..hold on..
[01:03] <ndube> adaniels, i personally keep crashing it
[01:03] <adaniels> ndube: it doesn't
[01:03] <ndube> adaniels, then remove it and install normal compiz
[01:03] <Pelo> Merlintosh, what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[01:03] <Jordan_U> specialKevin, apt-get source php
[01:03] <fblade1987> how can i save my wpa and wpa enterprise passwords in ubuntu?
[01:03] <Merlintosh> Hi guys When I try ntfs3g it says windows was not shut down correctly how can I fix that Ubuntu Server LTS
[01:03] <ndube> merlintosh, run a scandisk in windows
[01:03] <pierre__> brueing :sory for my bad english
[01:04] <bruenig> fblade1987, /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:04] <kruckmartinc> i got a different one now, thats odd..."
[01:04] <kruckmartinc> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:04] <kruckmartinc> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:04] <Merlintosh> cant I fix that from ubuntu
[01:04] <bruenig> kruckmartinc, close synaptic
[01:04] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, You can't just use the IP address of the machine that apache resides on?  (instead of a hosthame?
[01:04] <ndube> kruckmartinc, does it say that after a fresh reboot?
[01:04] <Pelo> Merlintosh, I believe later versions of ntfs-3g solved the problem but I don't know how you would go about installing them ,  maybe you can google for the source and compile it
[01:04] <kruckmartinc> lol, cheers
[01:04] <fblade1987> bruenig will that keep it so i don't always have to put my uni settings in when i use my laptop there?
[01:04] <Tigey> pike_: This sets up a virtual 32-bit environment to install in right?
[01:04] <ndube> fblade1987, yup
[01:04] <John117> Hey there.  I have an update in my ongoing struggle to instal Ubuntu on my laptop.  Can someone offer a suggestion to fix my trouble?
[01:04] <Merlintosh> thank you guys
[01:04] <fblade1987> because it does not seem to work
[01:04] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13, the ip will change often and i dont want to keep track...
[01:05] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Oh, that's right, it is dhcp.  Well, just change to static.
[01:05] <bruenig> fblade1987, yeah, well there is a special format on how it works, make sure you are doing it correctly
[01:05] <Pelo> John117, how far do you get ?
[01:05] <pike_> Tigey: yeah
[01:05] <Jordan_U> Merlintosh, Have you booted windows and / or run chkdisk ?
[01:05] <outsider_> already install iroffer ---- where the files goes ????
[01:05] <bruenig> fblade1987, man wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:05] <specialKevin> Jordan_U: would that just get me the source or would I actually be able to get the compile flags from that
[01:05] <kruckmartinc> very odd, i just closed the synaptic that had been giving me the grey, then installed vlc over cmd line, how very odd
[01:05] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: it works fine on my winxp install...
[01:05] <Merlintosh> Jordan_U:  no but i was hoping this can be solved from ubuntu
[01:06] <Tigey> pike_: There does not seem to be a way to set up a feisty 32-bit type.  Still looking though...  <sigh>
[01:06] <Pelo> outsider_,  if you cannot find iroffer in the menues ( under internet) ,  type iroffer in the terminal ,  the menu probably just didnT' update properly yet
[01:06] <usr13>  PCHQ-SERVER Just use static IP, (one that is outside the range of dhpcd's pool).
[01:06] <bruenig> kruckmartinc, yeah stay away from gui when it is possible and easy to do so such as package management, much smoother
[01:06] <kruckmartinc> hm, cheers anyway :)
[01:06] <kruckmartinc> quit
[01:06] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, What works fine on your winxp install?
[01:06] <Jordan_U> specialKevin, It would also the compile flags, at least I would assume so since with --compile it will compile it into a binary .deb for you
[01:06] <Jordan_U> *include
[01:06] <fblade1987> well this is my wpa_supplicant file
[01:06] <fblade1987> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40215/
[01:07] <Tigey> pike_: NM misspelled feisty. Grrr.
[01:07] <Jordan_U> Merlintosh, It can't, it is a problem with the NTFS partition and Linux cannot fsck NTFS partitions
[01:08] <fblade1987> lol
[01:08] <krammer> how can i make the desktop move in 3d
[01:08] <Pelo> krammer,  compiz-fusion
[01:08] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, It's just a bad idea to run a server on dhcp.  But, If insist on doing that, you need to set up an alias and have the server listen on the alias IP.
[01:08] <voidus> krammer: enable desktop effects
[01:08] <ivan__> hi, im having a problem installing updating and opening synaptic, can someone help me please??
[01:08] <Pelo> krammer,  #compiz-fusion or #ubuntu-effects
[01:08] <fblade1987> is that right or have i done something wrong
[01:08] <Jordan_U> Merlintosh, With ntfs-fix ( poorly named ) you can set the partition as clean *without actually fixing it*, but that is a bad idea
[01:08] <mEck0> I have an mysql question: how can I make a query which fetches ssn where ssn is not in the form XXXXXX-XXXX? I'm confused on how to make the condition XXXXXX-XXXX. I can't just write X:es which stands for any number between 0-9
[01:09] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: its just a temporary cod2 server for a lan party
[01:09] <Pelo> ivan__,  did you mess with your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[01:09] <krammer> do i have to install it
[01:09] <PCHQ-SERVER> thanks for your help though
[01:09] <Merlintosh> thank you Jordan
[01:09] <Pelo> krammer,  there are a few basic effects included in feisty , you can ask abotu them in #ubuntu-effects
[01:09] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Well, I've given you a couople of alternatives.  Take your pick.
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Merlintosh, np
[01:09] <Photocopy> !slax
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slax - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <Photocopy> okay
[01:10] <Photocopy> Is anyone here familiar with slax? I have two questions.
[01:10] <ivan__> Pelo, mmm i did but usally i dont mess it up, and i think i did mess up with them, what can i do?
[01:10] <Jordan_U> Phoenigore, slax is a slackware based LiveCD, this is #ubuntu
[01:10] <krammer> thanks pelo
[01:10] <outsider_> thx pelo fucking cool men
[01:10] <Pelo> ivan__,  go to your /etc/apt folder and see if you ahve a backup
[01:10] <LjL> !language | outsider_
[01:10] <ubotu> outsider_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:10] <Pelo> outsider_,   language please ,  we're linux users we'Re all virgins here
[01:11] <outsider_> ahhh ok zorry my bad
[01:11] <ivan__> Pelo, no
[01:11] <Jordan_U> Pelo, Speak for yourself :)
[01:11] <Kyokuz> is there a tool in desktop version to resize partions etc via gui?
[01:11] <Photocopy> IIf anyone knows aboout slax? its two fairly simple questions.  quick too.
[01:11] <Photocopy> =p
[01:11] <ivan__> Pelo, actually i do
[01:11] <Neodudeman> Lol
[01:11] <fblade1987> can anyone help at all?
[01:11] <hentaisushi> MasterShrek, i have to reinstall windows XP and ubuntu
[01:11] <usr13> Kyokuz, gpart
[01:11] <Neodudeman> ya, can you help me fblade?
[01:11] <voidus> Kyokuz: gparted/qtparted
[01:11] <usr13> !gpart
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <Pelo> ivan__,  restore the backup and see if it works better, then try to figure out what you did wrong
[01:11] <Neodudeman> i have a partition problem
[01:12] <usr13> !qpart
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qpart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <LjL> Photocopy: i thought this was an ubuntu channel last time i checked
[01:12] <LjL> !gparted | usr13
[01:12] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, what is your problem
[01:12] <ubotu> usr13: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:12] <Neodudeman> i partitioned about 15gb for my ubuntu install on a Windows XP laptop with 60gb
[01:12] <Kyokuz> voidus: how do i get it to run i can't see it in the menu's?
[01:12] <jahshua> does anyone know where i can get "windows wireless drivers" for ubuntu ...  .inf files ?
[01:12] <jahshua> please.
[01:12] <adaniels> ndube: I can't get it to work. This http://pastebin.com/d2fa780f7 was installed when I upgraded to 7.10.
[01:12] <Neodudeman> now, when I boot onto Windows, it says it only has 1gb free
[01:12] <Neodudeman> and that 13gb has been used
[01:13] <Neodudeman> out of 14gb
[01:13] <voidus> Kyokuz: it is on live cd. if you installed ubuntu, install gparted via synaptic
[01:13] <Pelo> jahshua,  go to the website of your device maker and look in the dl section
[01:13] <Photocopy> LjL: Last time I checked, the idea behind linux wasn't "My distros better than urs and i wont help you lololol"    Slax doesnt have its own irc ty, so dont harass me. Even if this is an ubuntu place, its an support channel, and surely support is most important.
[01:13] <usr13> LjL, Thanks.  Couldn't get the name right....
[01:13] <fblade1987> !wpa_supplicant
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa_supplicant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <LjL> Photocopy: no, surely staying ontopic is more important.
[01:13] <LjL> !offtopic > Photocopy    (Photocopy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:13] <LjL> !guidelines > Photocopy    (Photocopy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:13] <Pelo> !wpa | fblade1987
[01:13] <ubotu> fblade1987: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:13] <usr13> Kyokuz, it's gpqrted   not gpart
[01:14] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, how much does it say your linux is taking up in disk management?
[01:14] <bruenig> Photocopy, if you are looking for general linux support, honestly I wouldn't pick this channel, I mean ##linux is there or I would personally pick #gentoo or something like that
[01:14] <Photocopy> LjL: The topic is generally, individual help, on a per person basis, not "ubuntu"
[01:14] <LjL> Photocopy: ... because YOU say so?
[01:14] <Neodudeman> where can i check disk management, hentaisushi
[01:14] <Photocopy> bruenig: I would, the rest are all deaddd.
[01:14] <Pelo> usr13,   qparted in kubuntu and gparted in ubuntu
[01:14] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, are you in windows now?
[01:14] <Photocopy> LjL: I say from experiences here past.
[01:14] <LjL> Photocopy: the channel topic says "Official Ubuntu Support Channel". so, come on, just drop it.
[01:14] <Neodudeman> yes
[01:14] <Jordan_U> Phoenigore, No, it's Ubuntu specifically always has been
[01:14] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, go to start->control panel
[01:14] <LjL> Photocopy: bad experiences then.
[01:14] <BUDD}{A> can someone recommend a good pc repair help  channel
[01:15] <Neodudeman> ok
[01:15] <Pelo> BUDD}{A, what do you need to fix ?
[01:15] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, then administrative tools
[01:15] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, then computer management if your in classic view
[01:15] <druke> When trying to install Ubuntu , I'm wanting to set /home/ to a completely separate 250 gig HD, but i get an error saying "cannot have end before the start"
[01:15] <hentaisushi> er nvm just computer management
[01:15] <BUDD}{A> well just like to hang around pick up the news and stuff
[01:16] <Neodudeman> Ok. in computer management, hentaisushi
[01:16] <Pelo> BUDD}{A,  #hardware maybe
[01:16] <Jordan_U> druke, What do you have the end set to and what do you have the start set to?
[01:16] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, along the left side there should be something labeled Disk Management
[01:16] <adaniels> ;( bye
[01:16] <BUDD}{A> thanks
[01:16] <usr13> druke, Check the start and end of the partition for a mistake.
[01:16] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, click that and your partition table should show up
[01:16] <ivan__> Pelo, it keeps giving me error messages and i cant edit the list
[01:16] <adaniels> :`( bye
[01:16] <Neodudeman> Ok, I clicked it.
[01:16] <Neodudeman> Oh look! I see the rest of my C drive!
[01:16] <usr13> druke, Hint:  Start number must be lower than end number
[01:16] <Photocopy> LjL: Or why don't you disregard messages not haviing to do with ubuntu if its what you so want to speak about. And they weree all good experiences, cause i got help every time. If you dont want to help me cause its not an ubuntu question then shutup and go help someone else, cause I don't see why someone wouldn't help me anyway. Besides, if I go to a store and ask if theyy have shovels and they don't, "Where can I get them" usual
[01:17] <druke> Jordan_U,  umm well begining it checked by default i just lef tit alone, /home willb ethe only partitio on the HD so I left all the sizes alone
[01:17] <Neodudeman> Here's the breakdown:
[01:17] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, is it correct based on what you entered?
[01:17] <Pelo> ivan__,  try  menu > system > admin > software sources  see if you can get that open, and they try and disable the 3rd party stuff
[01:17] <KaoZ> Anyone know why a LAN connection would not show up?
[01:17] <Neodudeman> It shows 3 partitions, Hentaisushi
[01:17] <usr13> KaoZ, Show up where?
[01:17] <fblade1987> argh i cant figure out how to do it, anyone
[01:17] <^Ocean^> what is the Compiz window Manager ?
[01:17] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, you had windows installed first, yes?
[01:17] <usr13> KaoZ,  Try     ifconfig
[01:17] <LjL> Photocopy: look, it's that simple: i'm an operator here, and i'm asking you to stick to Ubuntu support questions. and, i'm sorry, i don't know what if any channel you can find Slax support on.
[01:17] <Neodudeman> 2 unlabeled volumes, both heathy and unknown
[01:17] <Neodudeman> yes. windows was first, hentai
[01:17] <KaoZ> usr13: let me rephrase it
[01:17] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman,  those are the linux ones
[01:17] <Jordan_U> Photocopy, And we told you to check the ##linux ##slax or ##slackware 'stores'
[01:18] <Pelo> ^Ocean^,  do you mean the decorator or do you want to know hwat compiz is ?
[01:18] <KaoZ> Ubuntu is not detecting anything other than my modem
[01:18] <Neodudeman> ok. but they both are taking 42gb
[01:18] <^Ocean^> Pelo, the Decorator.
[01:18] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, so the one on the left should show how much total space your windows drive is currently
[01:18] <usr13> Phoenigore, Ask on ##slackware
[01:18] <KaoZ> And I should have both wireless and wired lan on my mobo
[01:18] <usr13> Photocopy,  Ask on ##slackware
[01:18] <Pelo> ^Ocean^,   emerald
[01:18] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi:yes. that's true
[01:18] <usr13> Sorry, wrong nic
[01:18] <Photocopy> LjL: I see no reason AT ALL why I shouldnot be helped, and Jordan_u, if you didn't highlight me then its your fault I didnt get the answer.
[01:18] <ivan__> Pelo, which one??
[01:18] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, what does it show? what is the capacity of the first drive?
[01:19] <mnk0> hey sup
[01:19] <Photocopy> usr13, my bets are onn ##slackware being dead. #xubuntu always is anyway.
[01:19] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, you said it started off as 60gb?
[01:19] <KaoZ> usr13, any ideas?
[01:19] <Pelo> ivan__,  which one what ?  3rd party repos,  uncheck all of them , see if you can get synaptic to work after that
[01:19] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: ya, about. Says here the total size is 55.89
[01:19] <mnk0> anyone familiar with how to Rip Audio CD --> mp3
[01:19] <LjL> Photocopy: join #ubuntu-ops if you want to discuss the issue further. meanwhile, you're muted for 10 minutes.
[01:19] <usr13> Photocopy, You would loose that bet.
[01:19] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: it seems like Linux and Windows are sharing one partition
[01:19] <mnk0> Neodudeman: impossible
[01:19] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: and the other two partitions are just sitting there
[01:20] <ndube> neodudeman, thats funny and impossible
[01:20] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, the unknown parts are the linux
[01:20] <Pelo> mneptok,  rip them to ogg first then comvert them   sound juicer then soundconverter
[01:20] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: are not!
[01:20] <mnk0> Pelo: u talkin to me?
[01:20] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: they both show that there's 100% free
[01:20] <Pelo> mnk0,  yes sorry
[01:20] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: and the C: partition shows 7% free
[01:20] <seanm1> need help with wireless - why doesn't my wireless card show up in Network applet?
[01:20] <^Ocean^> okay here it the problem, Compiz seems too start,   and i get window effects and stuff,   But no window Decorations ( The title bar , Min,Max, Close Buttons )
[01:20] <mnk0> Pelo: isnt there a way to encode directly to MP3
[01:20] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: and the C: is 14gb, as much as I allowed linux to have
[01:20] <mnk0> in sound juicer
[01:20] <druke> for my partition problem, ubuntu's installer doesn't make you choose a start and end number, the only number is the size of the partition, which is the entire HD
[01:21] <ndube> dude, windows does not support the other file systems, so they cannot determine use, hence the 100% free
[01:21] <mnk0> i try to add new codec to the list, but it dosnt show up for some reason
[01:21] <ndube> lol
[01:21] <Pelo> ^Ocean^,  ask in #ubuntu-effects or in #compiz-fusion
[01:21] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: i'll upload a screencap to imageshack
[01:21] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, thank you
[01:21] <geirha> Neodudeman: windows don't care about non-windows partitions, so it will just display that they're empty or full or whatever
[01:21] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, that too ^
[01:21] <Pelo> mnk0,  rip first , then convert
[01:21] <mnk0> yeah it reas them wrong
[01:21] <mnk0> pelo ok
[01:21] <mnk0> what do u use to conver?
[01:21] <Pelo> mnk0,   soundconverter
[01:22] <mnk0> ok
[01:22] <Outlander> hi, im using gutsy, how do i set my window manager? xfce4 is loading for some reason, i have compiz so want that to be default
[01:22] <Pelo> Outlander,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:22] <Outlander> ok thanks
[01:22] <BUDD}{A> ok how do i tile the windows in xchat
[01:22] <Outlander> what config file would store the preferred wm?
[01:22] <usr13> Outlander, join #ubuntu+1
[01:22] <Pelo> BUDD}{A,  right lcick  the channel button and  detach
[01:23] <razer> Hi. I need some help with Ubuntu partitions on setup.
[01:23] <Outlander> lol sorry :)
[01:23] <Outlander> new channel for support?
[01:23] <razer> I want to create a few partitions.
[01:23] <Pelo> razer, what do you need to know
[01:23] <razer> Do you have to go under manual?
[01:23] <Pelo> razer, yes
[01:24] <BUDD}{A> thankyou very much
[01:24] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: Ok. I've got the image here. i'll link it.
[01:24] <Pelo> razer,  if you feel unsure you can prepartiton using gparted in the admin menu on the desktop,   and use those afterwards in manual
[01:24] <razer> Ok, then I need to know about a good setup to make sure swap is set up right and what partition to make it.
[01:24] <razer> Oh
[01:24] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: img115.imageshack.us/img115/5197/mypartitionssb8.png
[01:24] <razer> Gparted is easier than the one in setup?
[01:25] <Pelo> razer, simplest    5-10 gig  ext3 for / ,  2xram for swap , embeded in an extended partiton,  the rest for your /home
[01:25] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: i apologize for the really bad photo editing. it had to be done in paint. this wwas a fresh install of windows
[01:25] <usr13> razer, swap can be anywhere you want it to be.  Could be the first partition if you like.  In fact, it's not a bad idea to have it as the first one.
[01:25] <Pelo> razer,  gparted is the same as in the setup
[01:25] <seanm1> anybody give me some help on wireless ?
[01:25] <razer> Is there a web page that shows a good setup?
[01:25] <Pelo> !wifi | seanm1
[01:25] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: i put in, on the left, a window of the properties of the C: drive
[01:25] <ubotu> seanm1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:25] <usr13> seanm1, What is your question?
[01:26] <Pelo> razer, not realy but I can dcc you a pick of my gparted if you want
[01:26] <seanm1> thanks I will take a look
[01:26] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, i do believe you entered something wrong during partition creation
[01:26] <E-mu> Is there support for the new Audio CHipset Realtek ALC 888S?
[01:26] <E-mu> Not just 888 but 888S
[01:27] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: ok. what might it have been?
[01:27] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, have you tried booting into linux?
[01:27] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: ya. linux works fine
[01:27] <razer> I have 230GB fresh drive. I want a partition for just the ubuntu OS, a swap and then some more partitions by subject.
[01:27] <Pelo> razer,  but put the swap pa4tition at the end
[01:27] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, did you check teh space available?
[01:27] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: partition is correct and everything. tells me I have about 13gb free
[01:27] <razer> Swap should be last?
[01:27] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, have you looked at the gparted diagram of your table?
[01:27] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: gparted?
[01:28] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, its the linux partition manager
[01:28] <geirha> Neodudeman: I suggest you download the gparted livecd and resize the partitions using that
[01:28] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: ok. that sounds cool.
[01:28] <Pelo> razer,  preferably,  , use the basic setup of the pick I showed you,  make the big partiton in to an extended partition,    make several smaller partitons in that ,  I suggest you make one for /home and  mount the other ones in montpoints in /home , like /home/user/music
[01:28] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, try that, im in class atm so i  have to go some sql stuff
[01:29] <timUR> How do i install and Enable Accelaration of Ubuntu legacy Nvidia ???
[01:29] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: lol oh
[01:29] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: ok. thanks
[01:29] <timUR> do you have any idea at all??
[01:29] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, np, remember to come back here if you have other questions
[01:29] <razer> How big do I need for just the ubuntu OS?
[01:29] <razer> I'm not sure I know how to make subpartitions.
[01:29] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: kk, ty
[01:29] <Pelo> razer,  5-10 gig
[01:29] <razer> Use the same mount point?
[01:29] <timUR> razer, maybe uknow?
[01:29] <razer> for sub arititons?
[01:30] <timUR> razer?
[01:30] <razer> yes
[01:30] <razer> what?
[01:30] <hasan> merhaba,kubuntu ve ubuntu da office farklimi ?
[01:30] <Pelo> razer,  you'll figure it out easily enought,  just make the extended first and then right click on it
[01:30] <razer> I'm not in gparted though.
[01:30] <razer> I'm in the install
[01:30] <razer> for ubuntu
[01:30] <Pelo> razer,  mount points are the name / folders of the partiton in ubuntu,  you need a different one for each partitons
[01:31] <Pelo> razer, same thing
[01:31] <hasan> benimle Trkce konusacak kimse varmi?
[01:31] <^Ocean^> okay, compiz starts just fine, but there are no window Deccorations,   ( Border around my windows, titlebar,  Min/Max/Close Buttons )
[01:31] <timUR> Nie
[01:31] <Pelo> !tr ! hasan
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tr ! hasan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <Pelo> !tu
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <Pelo> !tk
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <Pelo> what do we have for a turkish channel ?
[01:32] <timUR> So -**** How do i enable acceleration of ubuntu legacy ??
[01:32] <timUR> Nvidia driver ?
[01:32] <Pelo> timUR, apparently no one knows
[01:32] <Pelo> timUR, check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:32] <hasan> officte sorun var
[01:32] <ivan__> Pelo, now that i open automatix and i try to install something it says error MMap ran outa space
[01:33] <LjL> !automatix | ivan__
[01:33] <ubotu> ivan__: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:33] <runemaste644> in the ban list i see that people like banning ChanServ
[01:33] <Pelo> ivan__,  we don'T support automatix here,  in fact we can'T stand it
[01:33] <Pelo> !factoids
[01:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:33] <ivan__> Pelo, not only in automatix
[01:33] <Jordan_U> !tr | pelo
[01:33] <ubotu> pelo: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[01:33] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  I tried that first
[01:33] <LjL> ivan__: perhaps automatix is what's causing it, though.
[01:33] <tanath> what's the best way to scan a page into a new text/word document? preferrably with formatting intact
[01:34] <Pelo> !tr | hasan
[01:34] <ubotu> hasan: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[01:34] <ivan__> Ljl, ok, ill try that, why do you hate automatix?
[01:34] <Pelo> ivan__,  buggy as hell
[01:34] <LjL> ivan__: see the creditable analysis above...
[01:34] <LjL> tanath: you're asking about optical character recognition?
[01:35] <tanath> LjL, pretty much
[01:35] <Jordan_U> tanath, There isn't any great OCR software for Linux, but tesseract is pretty good if you clean up the image first and straiten it
[01:35] <LjL> !ocr > tanath    (tanath, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:35] <ivan__> Pelo, how can i delete automatix now that i cant open synaptic??
[01:35] <Pelo> ivan__,  try sudo apt-get remove automatix
[01:35] <runemaste644> !ocr
[01:35] <ubotu> OCR software for Ubuntu includes Tesseract, Ocrad and GOcr. GNOME users can use 'gocr-gtk' as a front-end to GOcr, while KDE users have Kooka available as a front-end to Ocrad and GOcr.
[01:35] <LjL> tanath: as he said. not much wonderful OCR software around, especially stuff that is good at keeping formatting.
[01:36] <LjL> !msgthebot | runemaste644
[01:36] <ubotu> runemaste644: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:36] <monitoreo> gf
[01:36] <EliteChris> hello can some1 help me. I have a question... I want to install linux on my i386 box and i was wondering if i could have a boot selection when i boot between windows and linux
[01:37] <Pelo> EliteChris, it's part of the installation proceedure
[01:37] <Jordan_U> EliteChris, That is setup automatically by default
[01:37] <LjL> EliteChris: GRUB, Ubuntu's standard bootloader, provides a boto menu where you can select the operating system to boot.
[01:37] <ivan__> pelo, you speak spanish?
[01:37] <Pelo> ivan__,  not realy
[01:37] <razer> Should all these paritions I create be primary partitions, or should some be logical?
[01:37] <EliteChris> so i can just pop in the disc and install ubuntu.. and when im done it will ask windows or ubuntu?
[01:37] <Pelo> ivan__,  and yes I already know what my nick means
[01:38] <LjL> razer: logical ones are only needed if you need more than 4 partitions in total.
[01:38] <LjL> EliteChris: pretty much.
[01:38] <tanath> Jordan_U, it's a printed page, so hopefully it'll do well
[01:38] <Jordan_U> EliasAmaral, Provided that you don't format the entire drive, yes
[01:38] <Pelo> razer,  you can only have 4 logical partitons,    make all but / and swap logical
[01:38] <razer> I think I was going to make 6 partitions, 40GB each.
[01:38] <EliteChris> #ubuntu Thanks alot i was worried
[01:38] <Pelo> razer,  it's a bit of a waste of time
[01:38] <razer> I made then primary.
[01:38] <LjL> razer: then you'll need to make an extended partition and put logical partitions in there.
[01:38] <Pelo> razer,   / swap and /home is all you realy need
[01:39] <razer> It doesn't say extended anywhere.
[01:39] <EliteChris> I enjoy having ubuntu on my ps3... and i decided i want it on the pc
[01:39] <geirha> Pelo: 4 primary partitions, logical partitions you can have many more of
[01:39] <ivan__> Pelo, o cuz it would be easier for me, ok when i try to remove it it says MMap ran out of room,   Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[01:39] <Jordan_U> EliasAmaral, It's much faster on PC :)
[01:39] <Pelo> geirha, isn'T that what I said ?
[01:39] <LjL> razer: perhaps it's created automatically when you make a logical partition.
[01:39] <tanath> hmm, tesseract doesn't seem to show in the menu
[01:39] <razer> So I should do primary partitions until I run out?
[01:39] <LjL> razer: an extended partition is a container for logical partitions
[01:39] <geirha> Pelo: you mixed logical and primary
[01:39] <LjL> tanath: that's because it's a console program.
[01:39] <Pelo> ivan__,   open up your sources.list file and comment out that repos
[01:40] <Jordan_U> tanath, It's a terminal app, there are GUI apps that can use it as a back end though
[01:40] <tanath> LjL, yeah, i just noticed that
[01:40] <Pelo> geirha, my bad
[01:40] <razer> So I put logical partitions in primary partitions?
[01:40] <LjL> tanath: type "man tesseract" or "man tesseract-ocr" in a shell
[01:40] <Sonicadvance1> Yo, I need to pass through internet from one network port to another and someone else helped me do it before. anyone got a clue?
[01:40] <razer> Does it even matter which type I use?
[01:40] <ivan__> Pelo, i cant edit it
[01:40] <geirha> razer: you make one of the primary partitions the special type of partition called extended partition
[01:40] <LjL> tanath: if you want a GUI, i'm afraid you can't use tesseract, as i'm not aware of any tesseract front-ends
[01:40] <geirha> razer: on the extended partition you can make logical partitions
[01:40] <Pelo> razer,  type ? you mean file system ?  if you are only going to use linux   ext3 is prefered
[01:40] <razer> I just have a bunch of hdc1,2,3 like that so far.
[01:41] <tanath> LjL, it'd be nice... it's certainly an issue that should be addressed, but i can do without
[01:41] <Pelo> razer, that's the name of the partitons , not the file system or the type
[01:41] <Jordan_U> LjL, tanath There are some GUI front ends, can't remember the name of the one I tried ( eventually just used tesseract directly )
[01:41] <razer> yeah, the first one is / the rest don't have a type, but they are all ext3
[01:41] <LjL> Jordan_U: perhaps, but not in the repositories
[01:41] <Jordan_U> LjL, No, in the repos
[01:42] <Jordan_U> LjL, It could use Ocrad also, it wasn't tesseract specific
[01:42] <LjL> Jordan_U, well, "apt-cache search tesseract" only gives tesseract-ocr, and "apt-cache rdepends tesseract-ocr" doesn't give anything, so i wouldn't know where to look
[01:42] <Pelo> razer, I think those would be the mountpoints for some reason, don'T knwo what it's called type tho
[01:42] <solidunit> can someone please help me out? i'm trying to setup my broadcom card with ndiswrapper following a howto off the ubuntu site. my card refuses to associate with my access point with iwconfig
[01:42] <razer> mountpoints
[01:43] <Jordan_U> LjL, Yeah, it didn't depend on it, just offered to use it if it was there
[01:43] <LjL> Jordan_U: uhm, then it should at least recommend or suggest it...
[01:43] <razer> Should swap be primary or logical?
[01:44] <nickrud> ivan__: to fix that, in a terminal:  sudo nano /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/mmap  ; that will create a file there. put the line    APT::Cache-Limit "10000000";   in it, and save.
[01:44] <Pelo> razer,  unlike windows,  when you add a partitons in or a storage device in linux it gets mounted,  , it needs a mount point, which is like a folder,  in name anyway,   it looks just like anyother folder in the filesystem tree,    mount one partiton as /home ,  and mount all your other as /home/usernamehere/whatever
[01:45] <EliteChris> hrm
[01:45] <tanath> Jordan_U, arg. tesseract only recognizes tiff :-/
[01:46] <tanath> Jordan_U, nobody uses tiff
[01:46] <Pelo> razer,  I realy recommend you just make 3 partitons if this is your first time with linux  , trust me on this , making a butload won,t realy do much for you , it's not like windows ,  a seperate /home is all you realy need to have safe data if you reinstall
[01:46] <^Ocean^> in #Compiz-fusion
[01:46] <pike_> alot of people use tiff
[01:46] <razer> Pelo, ok 3
[01:46] <tanath> bah
[01:46] <razer> I have one partition right now, just /
[01:46] <Jordan_U> tanath, It's basically an old IBM library that they just recently released, it's a great algorithm without many features yet
[01:46] <george2002> hola
[01:47] <ivan__> Pelo, it still says it ran out fo room
[01:47] <tanath> pike_, a lare number doesn't necessarily make a large percentage :P
[01:47] <Pelo> ivan__,  sudo apt-get update
[01:47] <razer> Pelo: So I what do I create next? Logical, I never see if it says extended.
[01:47] <Pelo> razer,   2xram for your swap and the rest for /home
[01:47] <tanath> Jordan_U, yeah, the algorithm may be great, but the app needs a lot of work :P
[01:47] <razer> And swap should be last right?
[01:48] <flukes1> doesnt matter
[01:48] <Pelo> razer,  with only 3 you just need to make them all primaries , and extended wouldn't have been the type it would be in the format list
[01:48] <razer> And only one primary parttition right?
[01:48] <razer> oh
[01:48] <ivan__> Pelo, at the end of the update it says thta
[01:48] <Sonicadvance1> Yo, I need to pass through internet from one network port to another and someone else helped me do it before. anyone got a clue?
[01:48] <ivan__> Pelo, be back in a sec
[01:48] <Pelo> razer,  preferably I am told but it works well enough for me in the middle, however , should I ever want to resize my / and /home I'll have to move the swap
[01:49] <tritium> tanath: many use tiff
[01:50] <razer> I tried to name my second mount point /home and it said I can't have he end before the start.
[01:50] <Dante_> to FORWARD the ip-trafic from one interface to the other you'll need to enable forwarding or install a proxy (for example: SQUID)
[01:51] <razer> So / will be where the OS will go right?
[01:51] <tanath> Jordan_U, well, i just tried tesseract, and i must say i'm less than impressed.
[01:51] <Dante_> but with this proxy only http/https and related protocols will be "forwarded"
[01:51] <Pelo> razer, the problem is not with the mountpoint
[01:51] <tanath> Jordan_U, it did terribly, and it's a printed page!
[01:51] <razer> Do I have to click on END for the second primary partition? it gave me an error saying I can't have the end before the start, but I didn't touch that.
[01:52] <tanath> Jordan_U, i think it got one line right, and mangled the few it tried, and ignored the rest
[01:52] <Pelo> razer,  jsut do it this way,   delete this new partiton if you have it,   in the unallocatd space,  rightclick , add new and just specify the size,  and the fs
[01:52] <Dante_> enable forwarding by: echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[01:52] <Jordan_U> tanath, It's very picky about alignment
[01:53] <razer> So I don't have to specify /home as a mount point?
[01:53] <Jordan_U> tanath, And tends to do better at a certain DPI ( sorry but I can't remember which )
[01:53] <Pelo> razer,  you'll do that in the next step
[01:53] <Pelo> razer, same for swap and for /
[01:53] <razer> But it has the mount point field to fill in.
[01:53] <tanath> Jordan_U, the alignment appears to be perfect
[01:54] <Pelo> razer, don'T use the / then just type home , see if it is better
[01:54] <tanath> Jordan_U, i used the default dpi
[01:54] <tanath> Jordan_U, i think i'll try another
[01:54] <tanath> Jordan_U, ocr that
[01:54] <tanath> *that is
[01:54] <Jordan_U> tanath, None of them are very good :(
[01:55] <GTroy> guys...what's the dock app that mimics osx?
[01:55] <Jordan_U> GTroy, AWN
[01:55] <Pelo> GTroy,  google for avant windows navigator
[01:55] <GTroy> thanks Jordan_U
[01:55] <Jordan_U> GTroy, But it does much more than that :)
[01:56] <GTroy> what else?
[01:56] <ARAJABAT> hello, I installed ubuntu in my laptop and then I installed windows. Now I've no acess to my linux. How can I install the grub again? I don't have the Ubuntu CD, I only have a slack cd
[01:56] <Pelo> it also blows
[01:56] <Jordan_U> !grub | ARAJABAT
[01:56] <ubotu> ARAJABAT: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:56] <GTroy> !awn
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: are there not windows packages for awn?
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> check, linux packages..lol
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> sorry, tired
[01:56] <razer> If I specify home, it says you can't have the end before the start.
[01:57] <Pelo> ARAJABAT,  the easiest way is to get the  super grub cd to fix it,   and then add windows to the grub boot menu ,   check the last link on the bunch ubotu gave you toward the end of the page
[01:57] <Jordan_U> ARAJABAT, I don't know if slack comes with grub though, I know it uses lilo by default
[01:57] <tanath> Jordan_U, this clara app looks like it could be good... i just can't get it to load anything
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: lol, i need it.
[01:58] <Jordan_U> tanath, If I remember correctly clara is the one that has one of the worst GUI's I have ever used
[01:58] <MTecknology> how do I get my mic to work?
[01:58] <Kylie2004> I have added two knew users to my Ubuntu LAMP box.  I've made the users members of the www-data group and given them home directories, I have a apache2 running, and it's hosting a website set up as http/SSL where the user has to login.  The two newest users can't login (inivalid username/password) and I think I must have forgotten a step.  Where should I look to fix this?
[01:58] <tanath> Jordan_U, i'm not paying attn to the gui, but rather the features
[01:58] <ARAJABAT> Pelo, I need download that CD?
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> that might do it.
[01:58] <tanath> Jordan_U, don't matter if it works, lol
[01:58] <ARAJABAT> Jordan_U: Yeah, but can I only install again the grub by slack cd?
[01:59] <mssnowflake> does ubuntu come with apache included?
[01:59] <Jordan_U> tanath, You won't be saying that after you try it :)
[01:59] <tanath> Jordan_U, just won't let me load a page... :-/
[01:59] <Pelo> ARAJABAT,  you don'T need to but it it the easiest way,  I never managed to do it with the  howto
[01:59] <razer> This is stupid, I give up on manual. It always says, you can't the end before the start.
[01:59] <razer> I never gave it an end.
[01:59] <tanath> Jordan_U, looking like that won't be an issue... i can't try it :P
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> is awn available for Gutsy yet, or will the Feisty package work?
[01:59] <voidus> mssnowflake: no
[01:59] <icecool> hey how do i make beryl and gdesklet to run at startup
[02:00] <Pelo> razer,  check the start sector and the end sector in the new partiton dialog, make sure they are in the correct order and that the start sector is one digit higher then the end scector of the previous partition
[02:00] <Jordan_U> icecool, Put them in System -> Preferences -> Sessions, for beryl put "beryl-manager"
[02:00] <wers> other than /usr/share/icons/, in what folder can icon themes be located?
[02:00] <razer> I'll just create more partitions later.
[02:00] <Heatryn> was even weg
[02:00] <Pelo> wers,  ones you added yourself are in /home/user/.icons
[02:01] <razer> I'm going to do guided, use whole space. If I want more partitions I'll create them later.
[02:01] <tanath> Jordan_U, clara just keeps saying 'no pages found'. do you know how to get it working?
[02:01] <Pelo> razer, very wise it will give you a chance to try ubuntu out before you get into that stuff , you 'll understand better how the whole partition/mounpoint thing works
[02:01] <wers> Pelo, I was looking for an icon theme that I installed...something like tango
[02:02] <Pelo> wers,  in /home/usernamehere/.icons , it's a hidden folder so when you get in you /home  ust click crtl + h
[02:02] <Draggin> Hello again - is there a channel specifically for discussing software packages? I don't want to bug people in here asking them about different issues with different apps...
[02:03] <wers> yep. found it but what I was looking for wasnt there, Pelo
[02:03] <Pelo> Draggin,  depends on the pacakge,  start by asking here and if we can'T help we'll try and get you to where they can
[02:03] <Jordan_U> tanath, Try cd'ing into the directory with the files before starting clara
[02:03] <Pelo> wers, that,s where they get installed , sorry
[02:03] <Jordan_U> tanath, It can't look at any other directory
[02:03] <tanath> Jordan_U, tried that
[02:04] <sekinto> I'm trying to make Ubuntu look like Mac OS X, I have Avant Window Navigator with a good theme, I have Compiz Fusion + Emerald with the settings configured properly and a nice them. I also have a good icon set, cursor set, and sounds... but how do you get the toolbar to look like one on a Mac.
[02:04] <sow1> I have a ATI Radeon 9700 and running Gutsy Gibbon beta, as I wanted to try out the new screen & graphics to see if its easier to setup my 2 monitors I have connected.  1 is VGA, the other is connected to the 1 DVI port... however, when I try to setup the extended display.. it doesn't work at all, basically just locks up and I have to reboot.    I've tried the open source and propriatary driver and neither works...  Any ideas on the be
[02:04] <sow1> st way to go?  I would love to see this work as easy as it does in Windows..
[02:04] <Draggin> Pelo - there's a couple that I want to ask about... First one is KGuitar - it seems to be slightly buggy and I want to know if there's anything else available that's similar...
[02:04] <Pelo> wers you can also use the search aplet in  places , add a filter to see the hidden files as well and search for your theme name
[02:04] <tanath> Jordan_U, oh... pbm or pgm
[02:04] <wers> thanks Pelo
[02:04] <Pelo> Draggin,  for kde packages  try asking in #kubuntu
[02:04] <tanath> Jordan_U, don't tell me those are common :P
[02:05] <Draggin> Pelo - okay, but I'm running Ubuntu, not Kubuntu...
[02:05] <Jordan_U> tanath, I  warned you :)
[02:05] <Pelo> Draggin,  you might have some small issues running kde aps in ubuntu but only some graphical things, what is the issue you have in kguitar ?
[02:05] <razer> My school allows me to have a free download of vista, but I don't think I have any reason to for getting it, even for free.................
[02:06] <Pelo> razer,  report your school for mental abuse of the studends,  they're not allowed to do stuff like that
[02:07] <razer> Pelo: I don't know what you said, but I don't think many will want it.
[02:07] <sow1> razer, i agree with that... at most they can sell you the student version of it which is more than free
[02:07] <Polygon89> Im trying to play a wmv file using mplayer. opening the file using the GUI either results in an error or it being really laggy/showing a error message about sound every 1 second.... but then playing the movie using the mplayer command line it works perfectly....... any reason why?
[02:07] <ttominko> hi all....i am nwe to loinux....i've been reading all kinds of wiki pages and help files and how to's but came up with no solution....ATI grapgics....can't get the resolution above 1024x768......help nayone????
[02:07] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  donT' pay attention to me, just trrying to be funny at MS's expence
[02:07] <razer> sow1: No it is the business version of vista.
[02:07] <razer> They let us download an ISO of Vista by Microsoft on DVD business version.
[02:08] <Draggin> Pelo - primarily I have sound issues, but that's not why I say it seems buggy. It seems some other people have also reported that the fonts (or graphics, whichever it may be) that are necessary to display musical notation don't seem to be part of the package, so it's all ASCII gibberish...
[02:08] <razer> You can either download the ISO or have it shipped on a disk.
[02:08] <Pelo> Polygon89,  open a blank instance of mplayer, then go to the preferences ,  and make sure the audio device is  alsa
[02:08] <Jordan_U> ttominko, Have you tried to System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager ?
[02:08] <pierlux> someone now an easy way to package an existing application (from source)? (ie. making .debs)
[02:08] <sow1> doesn't sound right to me
[02:08] <ttominko> yes....no change....
[02:08] <sow1> any ideas on my dual monitor issue?
[02:09] <Polygon89> Pelo, it is... but isnt the mplayer gui just a frontend to mplayer (cli)....so why is the cli working but not the gui
[02:09] <Draggin> I think I may just have solved my other problem though...
[02:09] <ttominko> Jordan_U:yes i did.....no change
[02:09] <razer> What I'm interested in now is how to make a computer that is an all in one cpu, motherboard, vga, ethernet micro atx for low cost to run ubuntu.
[02:09] <Pelo> Draggin,  for the sound I donT' realy know , but for the notes,  you probably need to install the correct font,  not sure what it is ,  check in the repos, using synaptic , type music and font see if anything comes up, also google for a kguitar website see if the have info on this
[02:09] <razer> A pc for like $300 or something.
[02:09] <icecool> hey wht dont my emerald themes work with beryl ........ no decorations show up?
[02:09] <razer> micro atx though
[02:09] <Pelo> Polygon89,  don'T know , you can probably ask in #mplayer they should know
[02:10] <Jordan_U> ttominko, And have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" and setting the res to what you want and the driver to "fglrx" ?
[02:10] <Draggin> Pelo - thanks.  I would like to pick your brain on something else concerning applications too though...
[02:10] <icecool> could it be the problem with my ati card or a problem with something else?
[02:10] <ttominko> will try
[02:10] <Pelo> Draggin,  shoot
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Polygon89, BTW, "the GUI" is called gmplayer
[02:11] <ccharles> hi! does anyone here know the dpkg/apt equivalent to rpm -q --changelog ?
[02:11] <Kudak> guys, is XF86Config still bein' used nowdays in other distro's ?? ?
[02:11] <razer> About how long does Ubuntu take to install?
[02:11] <Pelo> ccharles, man apt and man dpkg see what it says
[02:12] <Pelo> razer,  depends on the amount of memory you have and the cpu , in your case you ahve a pretty big hdd to format so that might take a while,  just the install takes me about 30 min
[02:12] <Draggin> Pelo - I've been using Synaptic, apt-get and the Add/Remove Utility as far as possible up to this point.  There are some things that confuse me a bit.  For one, the Add/Remove utility is merely a graphical interface for apt-get, right? And if this is so, why can I not see all the apps that seemingly are available through apt-get in the Add/Remove utility? KGuitar for instance doesn't show up...
[02:12] <Draggin> ...in Add/REmove, even though I could get it through apt-get
[02:12] <ccharles> Pelo: you'd think i had already tried that, and failed, which is why i came here
[02:12] <Jordan_U> razer, 15-20 minutes
[02:13] <Jordan_U> Draggin, Go to "advanced" ( also known as synaptic :)
[02:13] <Pelo> Draggin,   apt is the package manager for ubuntu,  synaptic is a gui frontend for apt,  so is add/remove , but add remove only shows the applicatisons not every single package,   there is a  little drop down list at the top of the add/remove windows,  you can have different displays  install,  free packages only k, etc , check it out
[02:14] <tanath> Jordan_U, arg, this thing is being difficult. i got it to load the page, but now it won't ocr it
[02:14] <sow1> sigh... why is driver support so bad in linux?
[02:15] <Jordan_U> sow1, Hardware manufacturers refuse to provide documentation
[02:15] <tanath> Jordan_U, or if it is, it's spitting out nothing
[02:16] <sow1> Or I suppose they don't want to release there I.P.
[02:17] <Draggin> Pelo - yes, I am aware of the dropdown. Most of the time I just have it on 'All Available Software'.  But then something else.  When I use apt-get, it most often downloads a bunch of packages from the net before installing.  I have noticed that these packages don't seem to be removed from my hard drive, even if I 'remove' the application.  So two questions - where does Ubuntu store these...
[02:17] <Draggin> ...downloaded packages (if I would for instance like to copy them from my machine to a friend's, who doesn't have internet access at home).  Questions number two - where does it install the actual software to (I want to know this because some packages aren't available through apt-get and I need to download the tarred binaries, so where should I put these after downloading them?)
[02:17] <Jordan_U> sow1, Sometimes they just don't care / their hardware is shoddy and the specs would show it
[02:17] <sow1> sux, I have a simple thing I want to do, super, super easy in windows.. but not so much in linux
[02:17] <Pelo> sow1,  linux support more hardware then windows,  but some makers don't want to give out the info to make driver for their latest stuff, but it is getting better
[02:18] <hentaisushi> how do you set passwords in mysql?
[02:18] <sow1> how do you know it supports "more hardware"
[02:19] <Jordan_U> sow1, For instance some nice people created a driver for broadcom cards ( with no documentation from broadcom, just reverse engineering ) and now Broadcom still wont let distros ship the firmware files to let it run, so there are perfectly good drivers in a Default Ubuntu install, but because Broadcom hates us their cards still don't work out of the box :)
[02:19] <Kudak> where and whats the file name that contains the runlevels ??
[02:20] <Jordan_U> sow1, No IP involved, and they distribute the driver free on their site, just won't let Distros package it
[02:20] <antler> quick question: ati cards, 7.10, compiz-fusion: a peaceful coexistence?
[02:20] <Jordan_U> sow1, ( the driver file contains the needed firmware )
[02:20] <Jordan_U> antler, Not if it needs fglrx
[02:20] <antler> *gulp*. it does, it does.
[02:21] <ttominko> Jordan_U.....u talking about broadcom wifi????
[02:21] <wastrel> 7.10 questions on #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <Pelo> Draggin, the extra packages getting downloaded are dependencies,  you need them to make the app work,  libraries and such,  they don'T get uninstal with the app because they might be needed for another app, you can remove orphan dependencies using synaptic  and apt-get autoclean ,    dled pacakges aer saved in /var/apt/cache I beleive,  but you can't realy use those to transer for a freind as far as I know,    and apps not installed in linux
[02:21] <Pelo> the sameas in windows,  different parts of the apps are stored in differnet folders so other apps can share/use them
[02:21] <Jordan_U> ttominko, Yup
[02:21] <ttominko> Jordan_U where do i get that driver????
[02:21] <antler> thanks, wastrel
[02:21] <Pelo> Draggin,   if you must know , the executables themselves are usualy in   /usr/bin, /bin  /sbin or /usr/sbin
[02:21] <sow1> Thats the propriatary driver though correct, not the open source driver? and they wont let them distribute the propriatary driver?
[02:22] <Jordan_U> ttominko, It's already installed, you just need the firmware ( if your exact chipset is supported )
[02:22] <Pelo> brb
[02:22] <Jordan_U> ttominko, just install the package "bcm43xx-fwcutter"
[02:23] <Jordan_U> ttominko, You can check if your chipset is supported here: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[02:23] <sow1> You would think as a hardware manufacture the idea is to sell MORE stuff... not less, and if that means creating a driver for linux to sell more of there product ... I guess I don't get the logic there
[02:24] <solidunit> can someone please help me out? i'm trying to setup my broadcom card with ndiswrapper following a howto off the ubuntu site. my card refuses to associate with my access point with iwconfig
[02:24] <Jordan_U> solidunit, What is the exact chipset?
[02:24] <solidunit> broadcom 4318 rev 2
[02:25] <solidunit> thats according to lspci
[02:25] <Flare183> Any howtos that i can write?
[02:25] <Flare183> before i get off the computer
[02:26] <tanath> Jordan_U, LjL, i don't understand why these packages have been released if they're not even functional
[02:26] <solidunit> Jordan_U: i have ndiswrapper successfully loading the windows driver and i can scan ap's in the vicinity successfully. but setting the essid or ap parameters in iwconfig just does not work
[02:26] <tanath> Jordan_U, LjL, the text couldn't be much easier to recognize :-/
[02:27] <LjL> tanath: they're functional. at least, gocr and ocrad are, i've never tried tesseract but everyone says it's the best of the bunch. they're certainly below-average OCRs, but we told you that.
[02:27] <tanath> LjL, gocr produced garbage, and ocrad isn't working at all so far..
[02:27] <bazhang> Greetings, all. Please don't tell anyone in #kubuntu I'm asking this, but how hard is it to add the GNOME desktop to my current version of Kubuntu? Am familiar with Adept/Synaptic apt-get, aptitude, etc; also, any issue I might face when adding this apart from extra disk space taken up? This is Gutsy, btw, but I'm guessing the changing from Kubuntu to Ubuntu is still the same--thanks much.
[02:27] <Jordan_U> solidunit, Try this page possibly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5bAirForce_One_54g%5d
[02:28] <undauntedspirit> anyone know what file the usb filesystem is mounted in?
[02:28] <bododo> hi folks :)
[02:28] <GTroy> bazhang hold on one sec
[02:28] <bododo> why are my fonts rendering ugly on my ubuntu-ppc (ibook G4)
[02:28] <bododo> whatever i do :(
[02:28] <bazhang> GTroy: thanks much
[02:28] <ttominko> Jordan_U: no luck.....it says it doesn't work with my card.....yet
[02:28] <wastrel> bazhang: install ubuntu-desktop for the full gnome thingy
[02:29] <wastrel> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:29] <tanath> LjL, ok, it worked, but not as well as others
[02:29] <GTroy> bazhang....here you go
[02:29] <ttominko> Jordan_U..but the grapics......it says command not found......
[02:29] <LjL> tanath: i can assure you that ocrad from Feisty *does* work. i've used it with Kooka and without. as for gocr spitting out garbage - try tuning the parameters. best if the scan is made in b/w and at a high resolution also.
[02:29] <GTroy> bazhang: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[02:29] <Jordan_U> ttominko, What do you mean?
[02:29] <bododo> anyone has ubuntu on a ppc?
[02:29] <tanath> LjL, they function if you count being able to recognize the odd _printed_ characters
[02:29] <bazhang> wastrel: that's would give all the apps, gnomebaker, etc.? Compiz-Fusion basic functionality and so on? Cheers!
[02:30] <solidunit>  Jordan_U: i followed a howto very similar to that except there was no mention of wicd. i'll give it a shot tho
[02:30] <bazhang> GTroy: thanks very much. Really appreciate it.
[02:30] <tanath> LjL, it's a greyscale scan, with decent resolution of printed text
[02:30] <Draggin> Pelo - you still around?  Sorry, I timed out...
[02:30] <ttominko> the reconfigure command you wrote before.....when i type it in terminal....it says command not found....
[02:30] <GTroy> bazhang ... you will be able to use all programs kde and gnome
[02:30] <LjL> tanath: uh of course, just about all OCR software is intended for *printed* stuff, certainly not handwriting if that's what you're saying
[02:30] <Draggin> I don't know if you answered or saw my last question
[02:30] <tanath> LjL, oh, and on gutsy
[02:30] <wastrel> bazhang: that's everything afaik  i duno about fusion, this isn't gusty support yet
[02:30] <bododo> help!! :(
[02:30] <Jordan_U> !xconfig | ttominko
[02:30] <ubotu> ttominko: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[02:31] <LjL> tanath: try plain black and white, or at least experiment with various thresholds
[02:31] <hvgotcodes> is there a reliable guide for installing e17 from cvs?
[02:31] <tanath> LjL, i know there's apps for windows that can recognize writing, so i would have hoped that apps for linux would at least be able to recognize print :(
[02:31] <tanath> LjL, the only options were colour, or greyscale. i thought that was black & white
[02:31] <bazhang> GTroy: thanks again. Will give it a shot.
[02:31] <Draggin> Okay, it looks like Pelo is gone. Could someone else please help me out on this one?  When I use apt-get, it most often downloads a bunch of packages from the net before installing.  I have noticed that these packages don't seem to be removed from my hard drive, even if I 'remove' the application.  So two questions - where does Ubuntu store these downloaded packages (if I would for instance...
[02:31] <Draggin> ...like to copy them from my machine to a friend's, who doesn't have internet access at home).  Questions number two - where does it install the actual software to (I want to know this because some packages aren't available through apt-get and I need to download the tarred binaries, so where should I put these after downloading them?)
[02:31] <LjL> tanath: there is non-free OCR software for Linux that's probably much better. can't recall any names, i just know they exist.
[02:31] <GTroy> bododo I missed your question
[02:31] <bododo> GTroy: :)
[02:32] <wastrel> ocr eh
[02:32] <bazhang> wastrel: appreciate it. thanks again.
[02:32] <sow1> wastrel> Why not? they should be fixing issues with Gutsy now before it freezes?
[02:32] <bododo> GTroy: it was about fonts rendering, thanks for the attention :)
[02:32] <wastrel> sow1: gusty support is #ubuntu+1
[02:32] <undauntedspirit> Anyone know what file the usb filesystem is mounted in at boot?
[02:32] <RoC_MasterMind> Draggin, try "apt-get autoclean"
[02:32] <GTroy> ok, be more specific bododo
[02:32] <razer> What is the easiest way to share folder on osx to ubuntu machine?
[02:32] <RoC_MasterMind> Draggin, or "apt-get clean"
[02:32] <sow1> gotcha
[02:32] <sow1> thanks
[02:32] <bododo> GTroy: i actually have a bunch of similar question which prevent me from using ubuntu as my OS on my ibook
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Draggin, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:33] <razer> wait I think its working
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Draggin, Also packages.ubuntu.com
[02:33] <Draggin> RoC_MasterMind - I don't think you see what I'm trying to do - I don't want to get rid of them - I want to know where they are to copy them to a computer without internet connectivity in order to install them
[02:33] <bododo> GTroy: what ever i did, including rebuilding freetype (with byte-encoder stuff) it's ugly
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Draggin, You can also use synaptic from his computer to create a download script to run on another machine
[02:33] <ccharles> pelo: the correct answer next time, is apt-listchanges, or even zless /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/changelog.Debian.gz or if you have internet access, aptitude changelog <packagename> (with thanks to cafuego for telling me)
[02:33] <scag> I need to run "ettercap -G" as root. When I type gksudo ettercap -G, I get an error saying invalid option -G
[02:33] <GTroy> bododo did you do a source install?
[02:34] <_6StringKng_> anyone else having problems with gfire connecting?
[02:34] <RoC_MasterMind> Draggin, yeah I know what you mean...let me try to remember
[02:34] <cafuego> Copyright infringement!!!!
[02:34] <Draggin> Jordan_U - thanks :)  Anything on question two?
[02:34] <bododo> GTroy: of freetype? yes, that's what i did
[02:34] <_6StringKng_> it says connection closed by peer when I try
[02:34] <RoC_MasterMind> /var/cache/apt/archives/ Draggin
[02:34] <GTroy> bododo...go to the directory you installed it in and type $make uninstall
[02:34] <bododo> cafuego: coywhat? i'm african :D
[02:34] <Draggin> Jordan_U - do you have a link on how to create the script in Synaptic?
[02:34] <bododo> GTroy: and?
[02:34] <Draggin> RoC_MasterMind - thanks :)
[02:34] <Jordan_U> Draggin, "which <commandname>" and "whereis <commandname>"
[02:34] <GTroy> it will uninstall
[02:34] <bododo> install it again?
[02:35] <bododo> yes, i know
[02:35] <GTroy> yeah, see if you can do it through synaptic though
[02:35] <RoC_MasterMind> Draggin, packages will unpack files into multiple folders, a deb is just a renamed tar.gz....look in the data archive inside to see what files will go where.
[02:35] <GTroy> it should be a cleaner...more working install that way
[02:35] <panosru> How can i add a port in firewall exceptions so port forwarding will work?
[02:35] <Jordan_U> Draggin, Just select the package(s) you want to install then go to file -> create download script ( or something like that )
[02:35] <Draggin> Jordan_U - so there's not one standard folder, like a 'Program Files' in Windows?
[02:35] <Jordan_U> Draggin, No
[02:35] <bododo> GTroy: i actually build it from sources, so ./configure --prefix=/usr make and make install
[02:35] <bododo> the usual way, see?
[02:36] <scag> I need to run "ettercap -G" as root. When I type gksudo ettercap -G, I get an error saying invalid option -G
[02:36] <Jordan_U> !permissions | Draggin
[02:36] <ubotu> Draggin: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:36] <GTroy> bododo is there a package in synaptic for it?
[02:36] <Draggin> Jordan_U - thanks... That's a great help... I'm trying to get a friend onto Linux, but he's only got a 56K modem at home, so no good for downloading software :)
[02:36] <bododo> GTroy: i'm actually on os x right now, for i don't have wifi with wpa yet :(
[02:36] <gorkon> howdy howdy
[02:36] <tanath> panosru, you can generate a firewall script here: http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/index.php
[02:37] <GTroy> no problem bododo
[02:37] <panosru> tanath, thanks i will try it
[02:37] <gorkon> tllts
[02:37] <bododo> :)
[02:37] <_6StringKng_> gfire/gaim help anyone?
[02:37] <_6StringKng_> ??
[02:37] <gorkon> Pat messed up
[02:37] <gorkon> lol
[02:37] <GTroy> persistence pays more than you will believe in fixing problems
[02:37] <wastrel> just ask _6StringKng_
[02:37] <gorkon> yeah it was
[02:37] <bododo> GTroy: do you own a ppc?
[02:37] <GTroy> yeah
[02:37] <GTroy> mac mini
[02:37] <RoC_MasterMind> Draggin, if each program was inside it's own directory, you're $PATH wouldn't work, and youd need to give the full location to every binary...like "/usr/bin/cat file.txt | /bin/grep text"...it would be very annoying
[02:37] <GTroy> no linux on it though
[02:37] <bododo> and what about the twofingerscroll?
[02:37] <_6StringKng_> k, I have been using gfire with gaim np for some time now, but since earlier today it wont connect
[02:38] <bododo> ah... no linux on it :(
[02:38] <_6StringKng_> say "connection closed by peer"
[02:38] <GTroy> I use osx a lot
[02:38] <Draggin> RoC_MasterMind - okay, I understand that, but surely not all of the files that an application needs is installed straight into the /usr/bin folder? Configuration files etc. - does that all just depend on the package?
[02:39] <amicitas> I have a question about volume control. To me the volume control in ubuntu is way too sensitive, by the time I turn the volume to %50 i can barely hear the output.  I would like to change that behavior.  Is there anyway to do this?  I am running 7.10 (development) but this problem existed in 7.04 (Fiesty) as well.
[02:39] <RoC_MasterMind> no, you are correct Draggin
[02:39] <bododo> GTroy: i'm a fedorian, see what i mean ;)
[02:39] <bododo> but it sucks ain't no cd for ppc
[02:39] <bododo> and my internet connexion is way too slow
[02:39] <bododo> so i decieded to try out ubuntu,
[02:39] <bododo> coz  whatever we say
[02:39] <bododo> the kernel is the same :)
[02:39] <GTroy> bododo this is true
[02:40] <Draggin> RoC_MasterMind - cool. thanks for clearing that up for me.  But... doesn't that make it extremely hard to keep track of things on a Linux system and to keep the system 'clean' and running smoothly?
[02:40] <RoC_MasterMind> for example, Draggin try "dpkg -L gedit", that will tell you where all the files in a package are.
[02:40] <scag> I need to run "ettercap -G" as root. When I type gksudo ettercap -G, I get an error saying invalid option -G
[02:40] <RoC_MasterMind> not at all Draggin
[02:40] <wastrel> Draggin: that's why people like package managers
[02:40] <RoC_MasterMind> it's easy to tell if something is installed...try "dpkg -l gedit"....or "dpkg -L gedit" to see the locations of all files in a package (If it's installed).
[02:41] <solidunit> Jordan_U: the last part of that howto worked! thanks! wicd fixes all my wireless issues
[02:41] <scag> !gksudo
[02:41] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  - See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[02:41] <Draggin> wastrel, RoC_MasterMind - cool, things are starting to make more sense now...
[02:41] <bododo_> sorry i was disconnected
[02:42] <bododo_> did i said a silly thing ? :(
[02:42] <RoC_MasterMind> amicitas, I had a similiar issue, open the volume control, click change device, see if you have a OSS mixer....the OSS mixer is used as a multiplier on the ALSA mixer...they are multiplied together...play with the levels.
[02:42] <Jordan_U> Draggin, It is all MUCH better than a registry :)
[02:42] <Demize> Hello.
[02:42] <Draggin> Jordan_U - that much I've already figured :)  The registry in Windows is a nightmare, but I'm very new to Linux, so it's quite a learning curve for me
[02:42] <scag> I need to run "ettercap -G" as root. When I type gksudo ettercap -G, I get an error saying invalid option -G. How do I do it?
[02:43] <gorkon> Hey let's have a lemon party....NOT!
[02:43] <dremth> I'm reformatting my hard drive that has ubuntu on it. What folders can I copy that has all my themes, fonts, icon themes, logons, backgrounds, sounds, splash screens, etc?
[02:43] <PupUser40646e> Hi, I just installed feisty on a m140 laptop, but I see no way to connect to an unsecured wireless network?
[02:43] <ant-_> scag, use sudo instead
[02:43] <gorkon> lol...borgasm
[02:43] <Jordan_U> scag, gksudo "command"
[02:43] <bododo_> well
[02:43] <Jordan_U> scag, In quotes
[02:43] <bododo_> bye folks
[02:43] <scag> ah
[02:43] <scag> okay
[02:44] <dremth> I'm reformatting my hard drive that has ubuntu on it. What folders can I copy that has all my themes, fonts, icon themes, logons, backgrounds, sounds, splash screens, etc?
[02:44] <Demize> How would I go about updating Ubuntu to the current beta?
[02:44] <amicitas> RoC_MasterMind: I don't think I see what you are saying, when I change on level, the other also changes, the two bars are connected.
[02:44] <Demize> Just re-install it?
[02:44] <PupUser40646e> How do I connect to an unsecured wireless network?
[02:45] <RoC_MasterMind> nononononononono amicitas click the Change Device menu item, then see if you have two different devices...select the other one...you will see a new mixer.
[02:45] <hdevalence> where is the eclipse install dir?
[02:45] <wastrel> dremth:   ~/.icons  ~/.themes
[02:45] <Demize> Simple; you just click it on the drop down
[02:45] <Demize> That was for PuP
[02:45] <Alp`> i have a green horizontal bar in all of my divx files. how can i fix that?
[02:46] <Alp`> its located in the top
[02:46] <Demize> Anyone?
[02:46] <dremth> wastrel, so if i just copied my whole home directory it would work if i just copied it all back after a fresh install?
[02:46] <PupUser40646e> Demize, I see the networks, but there's no option for no password?
[02:46] <ttominko> ubotu: When i enter the <sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh> i have set the driver to use 1280x800...my desired resolution as well and no change.....
[02:46] <amicitas> RoC_MasterMind: Right I go to the change devices and I have two devices listed. I click on OSS, go the recording tab and change the mater volume (there is no master on the playback tab).  Then I go back to the ALSA device and the master volume has changed to the level that I set under OSS.
[02:46] <PupUser40646e> I have two unsecured access points in range, but the network wizrd only allows for passworded networks.
[02:47] <wastrel> dremth: your home should have most stuff but some of your things may have been installed in other system directories... depends how you did things
[02:47] <wastrel> dremth: check out /usr/share/  also
[02:47] <wastrel> /usr/local/share also i guess
[02:47] <PupUser40646e> Network wizard only shows options for wpa or wep, no unsecured.
[02:47] <wastrel> a lot of that stuff is ubuntu package themes and fonts
[02:48] <dremth> wastrel, ive been trying to just burn everything but everytime i try that, nautilus freezes up
[02:48] <dremth> wastrel, what would i copy for ndiswrapper stuff and regular network setting stuff?
[02:48] <RoC_MasterMind> amicitas, on the OSS device, goto the playback tab and change the PCM volume
[02:48] <RoC_MasterMind> amicitas, increase it
[02:48] <ttominko> jordan_U: When i enter the <sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh> i have set the driver to use 1280x800...my desired resolution as well and no change.....
[02:49] <wastrel> dremth: dunno, never worked with ndiswrapper
[02:49] <ferrouswheel> i'm trying to get gstreamer-properties to use a custom sink "alsasink device="dmix"", but when i close the changes are not saved. anybody know the config file that gstreamer-properties writes to?
[02:49] <amicitas> RoC_MasterMind: The only bar under playback is "Speaker".
[02:49] <sainzeo> i'm trying to setup an external monitor with gutsy, but i haven't been able to do this correctly - does anyone have suggestions?
[02:49] <Demize> Pup, all you need to do is click.
[02:49] <gogeta> omg to quite
[02:50] <gorkon> Warp 11
[02:50] <wastrel> gusty questions in #ubuntu+1
[02:50] <seanm1> reviewed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs but cant get wireless to be detected
[02:50] <seanm1> help!!
[02:50] <PupUser40646e> Demize: I click the network access point and it doesn't connect.  Every other computer in the house works.
[02:50] <Demize> How would I install the beta of Gusty? Would I just install over what I have?
[02:50] <gogeta> !ask seanm1
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask seanm1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <wastrel> gusty questions in #ubuntu+1
[02:51] <gogeta> !anybody
[02:51] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:51] <Demize> It might be Ubuntu then.
[02:51] <dremth> wastrel, i don't really need it but it makes my connection more stable (i have wireless). when i dont have it my wireless says im connected but i get timed out on every connection i try to make. with ndiswrapper it happens less. i wrote a program that is similar to the windows xp wireless repair function. it just shuts down wireless and brings it back up.... i find that in ubuntu, it has less and less of an effect. im puzzled as to know
[02:51] <dremth>  why.
[02:51] <RoC_MasterMind> amicitas, then adjust that
[02:51] <PupUser40646e> How do I connect a brand new fiesty install to an unsecured wireless network when network wizard only has WEP and WPA?
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Demize,  you can do a clean install, or upgrade.  depending on your needs.
[02:52] <speedy20> hello? i need help
[02:52] <amicitas> RoC_MasterMind:  When I ajust that, there is no difference in the sound ouput, the "PC Speaker" under the Alsa Mixer now has the same value as the "speaker" under OSS.
[02:52] <speedy20> how do i get real player ?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> 'Please State the nature of the Linux Emergancy' :)
[02:53] <dremth> whats the best way to burn a dvd in ubuntu
[02:53] <scottDkoDer> What's the command to check your disk space on a particular partition?
[02:53] <gogeta> heehehe
[02:53] <RoC_MasterMind> speedy20, why do you need it?
[02:53] <Dr_willis> !realplayer
[02:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:53] <Dr_willis> This is like the 5th real player person ive seen today. :)
[02:53] <astro76> scottDkoDer, df -h
[02:53] <speedy20> so i can view videos online from diz website....
[02:53] <speedy20> lol wow
[02:53] <gogeta> willas we sould program the bot  to say that
[02:54] <Dr_willis> The realplayer web site has some download. :) its a .bin, you chmod +x the .bin then ./watever.bin to install it.
[02:54] <PupUser40646e> I guess I'll try gutsy?
[02:54] <Dr_willis> Not sure what realplayer stuff is in the repos.
[02:54] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  :)
[02:54] <speedy20> diz website anime6.org    im tryin to watch dragonb ballz  but i need real player for it
[02:54] <Demize> Nobody's awake in Gusty.
[02:54] <gogeta> heh
[02:55] <gogeta> isnt real player in the apt-get
[02:55] <gogeta> as well
[02:55] <dissection> When I insert a blu-ray disc, it doesn't get mounted. What do I need to do to make it work?
[02:55] <PupUser40646e> I mean I'll try installing gutsy, people say it works where fiesty doesn't.
[02:55] <speedy20> no i tried there but it didnt find it
[02:55] <RoC_MasterMind> amicitas, my setup is like this:  OSS mixer at 80%, ALSA master at 100%, then I adjust the ALSA PCM as necessary
[02:56] <Fer_re> hello people!
[02:56] <dremth> does anyone know why ubuntu has been freezing up lately? if i try to open a terminal, the terminal freezes (same with gedit and sometimes nautilus), then the desktop freezes after i force quit, and then i have to restart the x server. then when im back at the login, i type my user and password and when it should be the splash screen, it's just black. then i have to restart to login again.
[02:56] <Demize> Hi.
[02:56] <Fer_re> Is there anybody who can help me?
[02:56] <pike__> !ask :-)
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask :-) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <gogeta> i think its in the cannal repos and also now in gusty
[02:56] <pawan> hi
[02:56] <scottDkoDer> astro76: thx
[02:56] <pike__> !ask |:-)
[02:56] <ubotu> :-): Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:56] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[02:57] <Fer_re> Please tell me, how I can manually select which version of same package my aptitude will install?
[02:57] <gogeta> pawan its nopt delayed forever
[02:57] <speedy20> how can change the permission so i can modify my sd1(windows) drive?
[02:57] <RoC_MasterMind> dremth, make a new user...test out that new user account, see if the freezes happen there too.
[02:57] <pawan> what
[02:57] <Pici> pawan: 18th
[02:57] <pike__> !ntfs-3g | speedy20
[02:57] <ubotu> speedy20: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:57] <gogeta> thers a coutdown on the main site jeez
[02:57] <dremth> RoC_MasterMind: well right now, im in recovery mode logged in as root
[02:58] <Demize> I have a Gateway MX3414. Where would I get help with it on Ubuntu?
[02:58] <pike__> speedy20: if you just want read access then sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1  or somesuch
[02:58] <dremth> RoC_MasterMind: i dont have any problems here
[02:58] <pawan> after one week
[02:58] <Fer_re> shit =(
[02:58] <blent> hey guys
[02:58] <Kudak> what is peripherals ???
[02:58] <Pici> !ohmy | Fer_re
[02:58] <ubotu> Fer_re: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:58] <pike__> Demize: what isnt working?
[02:58] <gogeta> i think mplayer can handel real meda as well
[02:58] <gogeta> i knoe it used to
[02:58] <Demize> The sound, I've tried all the drivers I can with ndiswrapper.
[02:59] <blent> if i decide to revive the system
[02:59] <blent> because i've installed same bad soft or other similar things
[02:59] <speedy20> well i hav read access to that drive but i can write anythin to it
[02:59] <speedy20> cant***
[02:59] <blent> my personal data will be erased?
[02:59] <pike__> Demize: first thing id do is a google search like 'site:ubuntuforums.org sound mx3414' or something
[02:59] <jahshua> hi
[02:59] <Fer_re> Pici: aha, OKay.. sorry.. but I'm really in a shit =(
[02:59] <gogeta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[02:59] <pike__> !sound | Demize see also
[02:59] <ubotu> Demize see also: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:01] <NemesisD> anyone know of a cross platform vnc client? I want to be able to provide windows (server side) support from linux (client size). preferably something thats pretty easy to use from the server side
[03:01] <dremth> does anyone know why ubuntu has been freezing up lately? if i try to open a terminal, the terminal freezes (same with gedit and sometimes nautilus), then the desktop freezes after i force quit, and then i have to restart the x server. then when im back at the login, i type my user and password and when it should be the splash screen, it's just black. then i have to restart to login again.
[03:01] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know a way to translate gamepad buttons to keystrokes?
[03:02] <Wips_> I'm having problems being able to browse my shared files on a windows Laptop.. I've been able to ping between both this ubuntu computer and the Windows-laptop
[03:03] <bazhang> Dragnslcr: you can get a USB gamepad controller
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> NemesisD- pretty much any VNC client will work with any VNC server (VNC is really a protocol, not a specific program)
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> bazhang- yup, I have one. I'm trying to get it to work with games that don't have gamepad support
[03:04] <dremth> does anyone know why ubuntu has been freezing up lately? if i try to open a terminal, the terminal freezes (same with gedit and sometimes nautilus), then the desktop freezes after i force quit, and then i have to restart the x server. then when im back at the login, i type my user and password and when it should be the splash screen, it's just black. then i have to restart to login again.
[03:04] <bazhang> Dragnslcr: oh ok; not sure about that one. Cheers!
[03:04] <speedy20> how do i install the xdcc-klipper pluging for x-chat or ksirc ?
[03:05] <pike__> dremth: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and such maybe someone can help ya
[03:06] <disregardnotific> hmm
[03:06] <Wips_> I can't find my ubuntu on a windows-laptop and vice versa.. I've tried setting up Samba but i won't work
[03:06] <fouressence> Hi.  I just made a rather silly mistake --I deleted a partition I shouldn't have.  Most of the data was backed up to other drives, but some would be nice to get back...  Having not actually formatted the drive, is there any way to access the data from the previous partition?  ('twas a single Ext3 for the entire drive)
[03:06] <disregardnotific> anyone here familiar with how the cpu works?
[03:06] <fevel> hello
[03:07] <Demize> Maybe that's it...
[03:07] <Pelo> Wips, if noone here can help you try asking in #samba
[03:07] <RAdam1> my mic is not working in any application, yet I can hear myself
[03:07] <fevel> can someone please help me upgrade to gutsy?
[03:07] <fevel> I am using feisty
[03:07] <chetnick> anybody know some good system monitor desktop applet  for Gnome
[03:07] <RAdam1> fevel: #ubuntu+1
[03:07] <chetnick> ?
[03:07] <pike__> fouressence: partition table is kinda a pain to recover..
[03:07] <Demize> ubotu: the first link says that alsa sound is muted by defualt.
[03:07] <Pelo> disregardnotific, in general terms,  try asking a specific questions
[03:07] <Pelo> chetnick,  what info do you want ?
[03:07] <cafuego> disregardnotific: if a certain voltage is triggered on the transistor inputs, an output is generated.
[03:07] <RAdam1> chetnick: what don't you like about the builtin one?
[03:07] <pawan> hello
[03:07] <fouressence> pike__: Anywhere you can point me for learning about it?
[03:08] <chetnick> is there any?
[03:08] <RAdam1> my mic is not working in any application, yet I can hear myself. suggestions?
[03:08] <chetnick> i just found the one for the panel
[03:08] <cafuego> it's all quite simple semiconductor physics, but I doubt it's on topic for #ubuntu
[03:08] <disregardnotific> when you boot up you're cpu does it start at a default memory location that universal to all hdd?
[03:08] <Pelo> chetnick, several I'm trying to figure out what info you want displayed
[03:08] <chetnick> aaaaa
[03:08] <chetnick> cpu
[03:08] <chetnick> ram
[03:08] <chetnick> hard disk
[03:09] <pike__> fouressence: unless you remember exact size and such youd need to have made a backup with dd or something i think. i could be wrong
[03:09] <chetnick> and maybe something else
[03:09] <disregardnotific> or is there some memory on the mobo that points to where to start on the hdd?
[03:09] <chetnick> maybe network
[03:09] <Pelo> chetnick, gkrll I think it is called you can also have some desklets for that with gdesklets
[03:09] <cafuego> disregardnotific: No, the bios reads the first few sectors off the specified boot device and executes the result.
[03:09] <chetnick> Pelo thanks
[03:10] <cafuego> disregardnotific: "boot sector"
[03:10] <disregardnotific> boot sector is store where?
[03:10] <disregardnotific> on ur hdd right?
[03:10] <cafuego> On the harddisk
[03:10] <fouressence> pike__: Well, the partition was the entire size of the drive, so...
[03:10] <disregardnotific> k
[03:10] <cafuego> Of course, it cna read it off a cd as well.. or a usb device...
[03:10] <fouressence> pike__: in a way I suppose I do kind know the size of the partition
[03:10] <disregardnotific> is it possible to boot from a flash drive?
[03:10] <cafuego> if your mobo supports it, yes
[03:11] <disregardnotific> thx
[03:11] <pike__> fouressence: i guess you could try remaking it the way you did before.. i really dont know ive only ever backed em up not hosed em :)
[03:11] <Pelo> chetnick, gkrellm
[03:11] <chetnick> ok :) i could find the one before
[03:11] <chetnick> i was like what a f ... :)
[03:11] <disregardnotific> so if i swap my hdds and wipe one of them clean, it should have not effect on my other hdd?
[03:12] <disregardnotific> no*
[03:12] <Pelo> chetnick, its an odd name, I always have trouble remembering it
[03:12] <fouressence> pike__: Thanks for the time and thoughts. :)  I'll see what I can dig up online.
[03:12] <Pelo> disregardnotific, might have some issues with  grub
[03:13] <hdevalence> so how would I unzip a .zip from the cli?
[03:13] <disregardnotific> hmm
[03:13] <wastrel> unzip file.zip
[03:13] <disregardnotific> how about if the two hdd were independent from each other
[03:13] <speedy20> can any1 tell me how do i intall xdcc-klipper?
[03:13] <pike__> fouressence: i did once mess up partition on my ipod installing linux to it. i removed it in fdisk and then remade it just fine with no data loss
[03:13] <disregardnotific> i want to wipe my hdd before adding it to my comp
[03:13] <Dr_willis> !find xdcc-klipper
[03:13] <scag> When I insert a blu-ray disc, it doesn't get mounted. What do I need to do to make it work?
[03:14] <ubotu> Package/file xdcc-klipper does not exist in feisty
[03:14] <fevel> I have installed kubuntu-desktop and didnt adapt, but I chose kdm and now I dont know how to default back, can someon please help me
[03:14] <pike__> fouressence: removed and wrote it and fixed after a reboot
[03:14] <Pelo> disregardnotific,  the issue would be if phase one of grub is on he hdd you remove,  and fi the boot order changes
[03:14] <hdevalence> scag: what kind of bluray
[03:14] <Dr_willis> speedy20,  if you cant find a repository for it. use the source, or if lucky find a precompiled .deb
[03:14] <Pelo> disregardnotific,  it's easy enough to fix
[03:14] <fouressence> pike__: Really?  Hmm, I'll give that a try if nothing else pops up. :D
[03:14] <disregardnotific> ok thx
[03:14] <scag> hdevalence: BD-R
[03:14] <hdevalence> scag: no idea
[03:15] <Pelo> disregardnotific, i suggest you get the super grub cd before doing anyting, it will make things easier
[03:15] <odinriko> Is there any form of sidebar app for gnome akin to windows sidebar or the google deskbar?
[03:15] <open-gl> do they have dreamweaver for linux
[03:15] <Demize> I don;t like Windows. It's too slow.
[03:15] <Pelo> odinriko,  gkrellm or  gdeskelts
[03:15] <preaction> !html | open-gl
[03:15] <ubotu> open-gl: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages.  Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and KompoZer(Nvu).  For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[03:15] <Pelo> odinriko,  or screenlets
[03:15] <gogeta> disregardnotific whipe how so dod or format
[03:16] <preaction> open-gl, dreamweaver is a horrible program for web design, bluefish and quanta are nice though
[03:16] <speedy20> how do i use the source?
[03:16] <MoNsTeR> how do i update to ubuntu gutsy
[03:16] <odinriko> thank you Pelo
[03:16] <gogeta> open-gl is still hear :)
[03:16] <MoNsTeR> from my feisty version?
[03:16] <Pelo> speedy20,  you need to compile it ,  check in this link to learn how  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[03:16] <scag> Will Gutsy be able to read Blu-ray discs?
[03:17] <Demize> I use a text editor for my HTML... And PHP...
[03:17] <Pelo> MoNsTeR, ask in #ubuntu+1 or wait 11 days for ubuntu to do it for you
[03:17] <gogeta> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta
[03:17] <Dr_willis> speedy20,  download the source from the progarms homepage, install the needed developer tools/packages/cpmpilers and libs. compile the source.
[03:17] <MoNsTeR> ok pelo
[03:17] <gogeta> heh
[03:19] <wabbit> hey got a quick question, in system, admin, services, i have squid checked to load, but every reboot, it shows the procs as stoped?
[03:19] <wastrel> squid
[03:19] <wabbit> sudo /etc/init.d/squid restart
[03:20] <Pelo> wabbit,  start it manualy then goto menu > sytem > prefs > session '  3rd tab , click save session ( make sure you only hve stuff you want to start on boot opened)
[03:20] <wabbit> i have to reboot the service to start
[03:20] <speedy20> i hav it as an .mrc file....i can load it with mirc but i dunno how to  with xchat or ksirc
[03:20] <Pelo> wabbit,  start it manualy then goto menu > sytem > prefs > session '  3rd tab , click save session ( make sure you only hve stuff you want to start on boot opened)
[03:20] <Pici> speedy20: I don't believe mirc scripts are compatible with any other chat client.
[03:20] <Dr_willis> speedy20,   i have no idea what a .mrc file is.. if its mirc related.. you are out of luck. time to learn a better irc client. :)
[03:20] <gogeta> LOL
[03:21] <gogeta> is mirc even linux
[03:21] <wabbit> thank you pelo !
[03:21] <gogeta> i dont tink it is
[03:21] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  mirc is barely windows. :)
[03:21] <speedy20> no mirc is for windows
[03:21] <gogeta> hehe
[03:21] <Pici> speedy20: It does run under Wine, or so I'm told
[03:21] <dissection> When I insert a blu-ray disc, it doesn't get mounted. What do I need to install, to make it work?
[03:21] <speedy20> yea it does
[03:21] <gogeta> lol mirc under wine
[03:21] <gogeta> what a wast
[03:21] <Dr_willis> dissection,  try just mounting it manually?  wonder what filesystem those use...
[03:21] <RAdams> lol!
[03:21] <gogeta> almost every linux chat ap has irc support
[03:21] <Dr_willis> blueray = udf?
[03:21] <RoC_MasterMind> What is the difference between like deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates and deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty?
[03:21] <dissection> Dr_willis: How do I mount it manually?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> dissection,  mount /dev/whatever -t somthing /media/whatever
[03:22] <Pelo> dissection, not sure you can read bleuray in ubuntu,  check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:22] <Dr_willis> !mount
[03:22] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:22] <speedy20> i know how to use xchat and ksirc
[03:22] <sigger_> anyone know why I always have to run dhclient from shell whenever I boot my lappy?
[03:22] <pike__> sigger_: /etc/network/interfaces
[03:22] <pike__> sigger_: auto eth0 or whatever
[03:22] <sigger_> mmm, thanks pike_
[03:23] <dissection> Pelo: Nero Linux says it can burn Blu-ray discs
[03:23] <wabbit> brb rebooting
[03:23] <Pelo> Dr_willis, well youhve to admit it's a nice big storage format
[03:23] <Demize> Dr_willis: Good question
[03:23] <gogeta> i nice big useless one
[03:23] <Pelo> dissection,  do you hve a blu-ray capable drive ?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  for the cost.. i think i will stick with my stack of 'external usb hard drives' :)
[03:23] <dissection> Pelo: Yes, I have a BD-RE drive
[03:23] <Demize> How about just CD-ROMS?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> The price of DL DVD disks are still outragous. :)
[03:23] <Pelo> dissection,  does ubuntu recognise it ?
[03:23] <gogeta> willis i will stick to my stack of dl dvds 8 gigs dirt cheap
[03:23] <Demize> Small, but efficant and cheap.
[03:24] <dissection> Pelo: Its only reading DVDs and CDs (in Linux). I don't know what I need to install for it to read Blu-ray
[03:24] <Dr_willis> gogeta,   whats the best price youve seen for DVD-DL's ?
[03:24] <gogeta> willis couse they have hgh failer rates in pruduction
[03:24] <Pelo> dissection, does nero-linux read /see the media ?
[03:24] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  is that their excuse. :)
[03:24] <gogeta> willis anought a buck a pice
[03:24] <dissection> Pelo: No
[03:25] <Demize> Dissection, if it's a Blu-ray drive it should automatically be able to read bluray discs.
[03:25] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  vs like .20$ for a dvd+r  - Sigh...
[03:25] <Neodudeman> Hi, I have a partition problem, can someone help me out?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> ill guess i stick with the stacks of dvd+rs i got for now.
[03:25] <dissection> Demize: Well its not working in Linux. There're no problems in Windows.
[03:25] <MoNsTeR> how do i install a font?
[03:25] <Pelo> dissection, check the forum , but I think nero might be lying or you don't have the correct version, nero-linux is pretty basic
[03:25] <gogeta> willis i got a mutch larger stack of dvd r
[03:25] <gogeta> hehe
[03:25] <gotama> Hi! Is there any way how to collect information of the hardware of a pc without having to open it? A fllopy disk solution?
[03:25] <dissection> Pelo: Nero Linux 3
[03:25] <Neodudeman> I came by ealier, and I got gparted running; but I can't seem to make a boot disk out of gparted.
[03:25] <Pelo> MoNsTeR,  search for fonts in  synaptic
[03:25] <digbert> Is it true that Ubuntu will start using this: http://ebox-platform.com/ ?
[03:25] <RoC_MasterMind> gotama, System/Preferences/Hardware
[03:26] <MoNsTeR> Pelo, ok
[03:26] <Pelo> dissection, I donT' use nero myself , check in www.ubuntuforums.org or on the nero site
[03:26] <gogeta> willis i use my dls for puting like a enterire serise on 1 disk
[03:26] <RoC_MasterMind> gotama, or my favorite "lshw"
[03:26] <Neodudeman> I burned the LiveCD from the gparted website, and it just won't live up.
[03:26] <gotama> I have no hard disk.
[03:26] <Pelo> !fonts | MoNsTeR  also this
[03:26] <ubotu> MoNsTeR  also this: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:26] <genii> gotama: If it has a bootable cdrom Ultimate Boot CD has some very thorough tools
[03:26] <Demize> Hmm... No idea. Maybe when I'm older. Right now grade 7 is enough for me; I don't want to debug someone's computer remotely. :P
[03:26] <Frogzoo> gotama: lshw
[03:26] <bulmer> gotama if you were using windows , WMI would allow access to those, in linux, you proly have to dig through /proc
[03:26] <Dr_willis> gogeta, .. gee..  i never thought of that...  >wink< >wink<
[03:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:27] <gotama> I'm setting some pcs to use ltsp, so I have just a floppy disk and a screen.
[03:27] <Dr_willis> Neodudeman,  you sure you burnt it properly? check the disk in windows. see whats on it.
[03:28] <whileimhere> hey there.
[03:28] <Neodudeman> Dr_willis: kk. I'll check under windows. What should it have in it?
[03:28] <genii> gotama: do they already boot from network?
[03:28] <bulmer> gotama if your nic card supports pxe, thats what you need
[03:28] <tux78> hi whileimhere
[03:28] <whileimhere> I have a gravis gamepad pro that attaches via the port on the soundcard.
[03:28] <Pelo> whileimhere, and the question is ?
[03:28] <smo> hi
[03:28] <whileimhere> I cant seem to get it to work at all even in the jscalibrator program
[03:29] <TUXedomember> is there a way in ubuntu to use a none crossover cable to connect to computers via ethernet, and telling the computer to make eth0 a crossover?
[03:29] <smo> how can i add "extra commands" to the adduser command
[03:29] <disregardnotific> how crappy is a voodoo3 graphics card?
[03:29] <smo> i want to add a cp and 2 sed commands
[03:29] <Dr_willis> Neodudeman,  if you have a single large .iso file.. you did it wrong. :) if it has a lot of other files.. guess it was done right. How did you burn the .iso file?
[03:29] <smo> any idears?
[03:29] <disregardnotific> is it sufficient to do basic stuff?
[03:29] <Pelo> whileimhere, check the model here and in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:29] <whileimhere> okay will do that
[03:29] <Dr_willis> smo,  commands to do what exactly? if you want to change their home dir. new users get a clone of the /etc/skel dir I belive.
[03:29] <Pelo> disregardnotific, check it out in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:29] <genii> TUXedomember: No, it's a hardware thing. but many adapters today autodetect crossover cables, you may be OK with a regular one
[03:29] <Frogzoo> TUXedomember: it's called MDI - should work automatically on newer nics
[03:30] <Neodudeman> Dr_willis: I extracted it from the ISO in Linux, and copied it into the blank CD 'folder.' I then hit Write.
[03:30] <Dr_willis> smo,  or just make a little script that calls the adduser command, then your extra commands.
[03:30] <smo> yes
[03:30] <smo> but how to catch the username..
[03:30] <Dr_willis> Neodudeman,  extracted? I belive you did it wrong then. Use a iso burning tool.   you do NOT extract the files,m then drag/drop them to the cd under windows.
[03:30] <genii> Frogzoo: Interesting, haven't heard/seen of MDI before this
[03:31] <gotama> The pcs that i'm testing boot from the network.
[03:31] <Dr_willis> smo,  bash scripts can easially parse command line arguments.
[03:31] <smo> sed -i 's/votrelogin/$new_name/g' /opt/nzb/SABnzbd.ini
[03:31] <smo> exemple i added it at the end of the adduser file
[03:31] <smo> but refuse..
[03:31] <Neodudeman> Dr_willis: I burnt it like that in ubuntu though. I'll try reburning it in windows.
[03:31] <smo> i want to edit those .ini file when creating the new user
[03:31] <Intangir> i used a program before on linux, that let me download my phone numbers from my phone
[03:31] <Intangir> i dont remember what it was called
[03:32] <gotama> But i need more information about the hardware to ke it more stable.
[03:32] <smo> in my own live cd
[03:32] <Dr_willis> Neodudeman,  under ubuntu - you should be able to just double click it and hit burn
[03:32] <Pelo> Intangir,  try searching in the synaptic for relevant keywords
[03:32] <gogeta> .ini????
[03:32] <gogeta> thats..... windows...
[03:32] <gogeta> !windows
[03:32] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:33] <riotkittie> yaY
[03:33] <face> hmm....
[03:33] <gogeta> lol
[03:33] <genii> gotama: You can boot to a mounted ISO image over the network. This is the basic way netboot installs using a mountedinstall cd work. Same principle can be applied to boot any cd image this way, including diagnostic CDs etc
[03:33] <face> I need to know.. I have windows on c and linux on d:
[03:34] <face> how do i make start up windows by default
[03:34] <gogeta> you need to edit your grub menu list
[03:34] <face> how
[03:34] <gogeta> LOL
[03:34] <face> hm...
[03:34] <mneptok> face: there is no D:  ;)
[03:34] <Pelo> face,  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    move the windows entry to the top of the items, not the top of the file
[03:34] <face> you need to laugh at me?
[03:35] <Pelo> face,  we don'T have to but we can'T help it
[03:35] <face> lol
[03:35] <DShepherd> Pelo, i think he can use the default option too
[03:35] <face> menu.list
[03:35] <face> right?
[03:35] <Dr_willis> or change the 'default' line in the grub menu.lst file to point ot the right #.. or uncomment the windows example entry.
[03:35] <Pelo> DShepherd, probably but I've never used it
[03:35] <pike__> smo: i did something when doing my ftp script like ftp -inp << EOF; open $VAR; user $ACCOUNT $PASS; put $something; bye; EOF  ive tried that with ssh and other apps and it works too
[03:35] <Pelo> face,  no menu.lst
[03:35] <Dr_willis>  menu.L S T
[03:35] <face> ok so what should i do
[03:35] <gogeta> it starts from 0
[03:36] <gogeta> normaly windows is number 3 unless you have more then 1 kernel
[03:36] <Pelo> face, you should go up a few lines and read the complete instructions
[03:36] <Dr_willis> face sudo EDITORYOULIKE /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:36] <DShepherd> Pelo, default number where number is the where it falls in the list. 0 is the first item
[03:36] <Dr_willis> ## default num
[03:36] <Dr_willis> # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0
[03:36] <face> k thx
[03:36] <Dr_willis> if your windows entry is on the 4th item in grub.. put 3 in there.
[03:37] <gogeta> heh he left
[03:37] <Pelo> DShepherd, I know how it works but because of the possible variations it is easier to tell ppl to move the entry to the top of the list
[03:37] <Dr_willis> OR if your windows is on hda1, you can uncomment the examples
[03:37] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  bet he comes back...
[03:37] <DShepherd> Pelo, ok
[03:37] <whileimhere> how do I figuire out what port my joystick is using?
[03:37] <mneptok> my Interblag is slow. how do i edit my Internet configuration file?
[03:37] <gogeta> 5$ says hell be back
[03:37] <whileimhere> Or rather what device?
[03:37] <Dr_willis> quick lets all change nicks! :0
[03:37] <DShepherd> hehe
[03:37] <gotama> The thing clients are working but very unstable. So our friends of the forums asked me for the hardware, mother board, video card, sound card, etc. It means that I have to open every pc to check. That's why I'm looking for more simple solution.
[03:37] <heguru> lols
[03:37] <Pelo> whileimhere,  try lspci in the terminal , it might tell you something but I can't garranty
[03:38] <mneptok> gotama: lspci -vvv > /media/floppy/lspci.txt
[03:38] <Demize> !sound | demize
[03:38] <gogeta> gotama lspci lsusb and so forth give you detiles on hardware models and so on
[03:38] <gogeta> normaly
[03:38] <whileimhere> Pelo it unfortunatly tells me very little.
[03:38] <heguru> gotama: actually lshw > lshw.txt will be even better
[03:39] <Frogzoo> gotama: get a copy of damn small linux on floppy, & put lshw on it plus the libs 'ldd /usr/bin/lshw'
[03:39] <darkcrab> whenever I try to drag a .doc file from open office into my usb drive it gives me an error, any ideas?
[03:39] <Pelo> whileimhere, menu > system > prefs > hardware info, it will tell you a lot more, or a lot less depending on how you look at it
[03:39] <mneptok> darkcrab: fix permissions on the mount point
[03:39] <whileimhere> Pelo okay
[03:39] <gogeta> flooppy who uses floppys
[03:39] <darkcrab> how do I do that mneptok?
[03:39] <Pelo> darkcrab,  what error and what filesystem if the usb drive or the floppy
[03:40] <gotama> I appreciate very much your help. I'll try.
[03:40] <gogeta> lspci -vvv > /media/pendrive/lspci.txt :)
[03:40] <darkcrab> it says invalid parameters and it is a usb drive.
[03:40] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  they make good coasters
[03:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:40] <darkcrab> if I drag a picture or folder with pdf files to it it works.
[03:40] <Pelo> darkcrab,  where are you dragging the file from ?
[03:41] <darkcrab> my desktop
[03:41] <baghyay> how to install realplayer in 7.10
[03:41] <gogeta> relly 50 times larger and pits on your keychane some are even relly pens
[03:41] <darkcrab> its not a root file.
[03:41] <gogeta> LOL
[03:41] <Pelo> darkcrab,  it should work , don't know what the problem could be,  is the file opened when you try to move it ? might just be locked
[03:41] <darkcrab> no, its completely closed.
[03:41] <Pelo> baghyay, get it from the real player site
[03:42] <Pelo> darkcrab, try moving it to another folder first,  and then from there, or make a copy and try to copy the copy
[03:42] <darkcrab> and it says I have read and write permissions
[03:42] <gogeta> real player
[03:42] <gogeta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[03:42] <darkcrab> alright
[03:42] <face> now im in my MENU LST
[03:43] <face> i see the setting to my kernal
[03:43] <darkcrab> i still receive the same response.
[03:43] <baghyay> i just ask to know how to active commercial depots in gusty
[03:43] <Pelo> face,  at the bottom of the file you'll see the entry for windows, move it to the top of the menu item list
[03:43] <smo> (Might be a runaway multi-line // string starting on line 1053)
[03:43] <smo>         (Do you need to predeclare sed?)
[03:43] <smo> ooops
[03:43] <smo> sorry
[03:43] <gogeta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[03:43] <Pelo> baghyay,  menu > shystem > admin > softare sources,   first tab   check all the boxes,  3rd tab check the backport box , close and there you go
[03:44] <face> can i remove memtest and kernal recovery mode?
[03:44] <baghyay> thanks pelo
[03:44] <regeya> meepity meep.
[03:44] <heguru> face: its better to leave them there
[03:44] <Pelo> face, don'T remove anything, just comment them out , and leave the recovery mode,  it is very usefull
[03:44] <pike__> face: gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:44] <pike__> face: er.. nm
[03:45] <pike__> face: add a splash image while youre in there :)
[03:45] <Pelo> pike_,  we're behond that atm
[03:45] <Dr_willis> face,  its best to do one thing at a time. and read up on that file and how grub works.
[03:45] <Neodudeman> Dr_willis: still no luck doc. I burnt the disk using Roxio in Windows, and gparted Still won't boot off of it.
[03:45] <darkcrab> oh well, I guess I will just deal with it later. its not that big of an issue that I cant wait to solve it.
[03:45] <Dr_willis> face, http://pastebin.ca/732510  my example menu.lst
[03:46] <darkcrab> thanks
[03:46] <Dr_willis> Neodudeman,  use 'burnatonce' or somthing real simple.
[03:46] <regeya> Pelo?
[03:46] <Pelo> regeya, nvm
[03:46] <Neodudeman> Dr_willis: alright.
[03:46] <Neodudeman> Dr_willis: while i'm here though, do you know how to change screen rbightness in ubuntu?
[03:46] <gogeta> anyone whant a purring ornge tabby cat lol
[03:47] <Neodudeman> Dr_willis: brightness*
[03:47] <Dr_willis> Neodudeman,  may want to redownload the iso for the gparted live cd also.
[03:47] <face> i moved windows to the top of the lsit.. as is right?
[03:47] <Dr_willis> Neodudeman,  i just hit the brightness buttons on my laptop
[03:47] <Zak>  hi
[03:47] <Zak> i'm from france
[03:47] <Pelo> them be fighting words
[03:47] <Dr_willis> face,  if it looks similer to   http://pastebin.ca/732510   it should be.
[03:47] <Zak> and looking for freinds
[03:47] <Pelo> !fr | Zak
[03:47] <ubotu> Zak: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:47] <gogeta> willis sudo gamme -xgamme 2.0
[03:47] <Dr_willis> face,  be sure the 'default #' like reads default 0
[03:47] <gogeta> gamma
[03:48] <regeya> Zak: hello, and ditto to what Pelo said
[03:48] <gogeta> :)
[03:48] <face> k
[03:48] <face> brb
[03:48] <Neodudeman> Dr_willis: doh. =P. I need some of those. lol. Alright. I'm gonna re-dl GPARTED and then I'mma download burnatonce
[03:49] <gogeta> neodudman sudo gamme -xgamma 2.0
[03:49] <gogeta> and i have no clue why ikeep hitting e
[03:49] <gogeta> ista britness
[03:49] <regeya> so, if I go into, say, #ubuntu-de and start speaking english, do I get slapped around by the bot? :->
[03:49] <Pelo> gogeta,  I think it's psychosomatic,  you'Re trying to tell youself something
[03:50] <gogeta> hehe
[03:50] <Pelo> regeya, you'll get told about this channel
[03:50] <gogeta> regeya dont give us ideas
[03:51] <Neodudeman> gogeta: i couldn't get that to work.
[03:51] <gogeta> or was ioit the other way around
[03:51] <gogeta> xgamma -gamma 2.0
[03:51] <gogeta> i forget
[03:51] <regeya> Pelo: indeed?
[03:51] <regeya> ;3~
[03:51] <Pelo> Neodudeman,  what are you trying to do ?
[03:52] <mneptok> Zak: #ubuntu-qc itou :)
[03:52] <gogeta> he wanted the desktop brighter
[03:52] <Pelo> Neodudeman,  or better yet what is your issue ?
[03:52] <avalanche121> anybody with hamachi wanna test my ftp server if it can be reached or not?
[03:52] <Pelo> Neodudeman,   man gamma
[03:52] <Demize> Could anyone help me with my sound problem?
[03:52] <Neodudeman> gogeta: lol. i tried all the combinations except xgamma. That Did change brightness; but what I meant was brightness as in backlight
[03:53] <gogeta> humm
[03:53] <Demize> I already done the bot thing.
[03:53] <Pelo> Demize,  tell us the sound problem so we can know what to help you with
[03:53] <Neodudeman> pelo: i'm trying to make a working gparted livecd, and also am trying to lower the brightness of my backlight
[03:53] <gogeta> well 1.0 is defult if you wanna go back
[03:53] <Demize> Sound won't work.
[03:53] <Neodudeman> gogeta: ya. I did. lol; thanks though
[03:53] <pike__> Neodudeman: xgamma -rgamma 4  is very pretty
[03:53] <Demize> And alsamixer shows me the rectangles.
[03:53] <Pelo> Neodudeman, gparted is on the ubuntu live cd you shoudln'T need to make a gparted live cd
[03:53] <IanLiu> Is there a way to run a Script when Ubuntu starts? Something like CRONTAB does
[03:54] <pike__> IanLiu: at your login or at boot?
[03:54] <Neodudeman> pike: lol. I like it.
[03:54] <gogeta> lanliu you shure can
[03:54] <Caelum> IanLiu: @reboot in your crontab
[03:54] <IanLiu> I wish to change my Desktop Background
[03:54] <Pelo> Demize,  review the basics when you booted the live cd for the first time did you get a sound at boot ?
[03:54] <regeya> don't we all
[03:54] <gogeta> lol thats not a script
[03:54] <gogeta> just change it
[03:54] <Neodudeman> pelo: Are you kidding? I've spent all thise time trying to make it. Wait, is it on the install disk then?
[03:54] <IanLiu> No, but ramdomically ;)
[03:54] <Pelo> !theme | IanLiu
[03:54] <ubotu> IanLiu: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:54] <PupUser40646e> Is it possible to use two fingers to scroll on a touchpad like the Mac?
[03:55] <Pelo> Neodudeman, yes
[03:55] <Demize> Pelo: No sound at boot.
[03:55] <gogeta> i think you can even slect random
[03:55] <Neodudeman> Pelo: Well Golly-Gee. I'll Brb!
[03:55] <avalanche121> anybody with hamachi wanna test my ftp server if it can be reached or not?
[03:55] <Pelo> Demize,  ok check that your speakers are plugged in properly and in the correct outlet, and also check that they are powered on
[03:55] <dissection> !xdg
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <Pelo> !info xdg | dissection
[03:56] <ubotu> dissection: Package xdg does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:56] <Demize> They work in windows, and even if they weren't, I have a laptop.
[03:56] <regeya> "it tech support, have you tried turning it off and on?"
[03:56] <Demize> It has built in speakers
[03:56] <IanLiu> I wish to change my desktop background dynamically when Ubuntu starts. I just want to know how to run a script at this time ^^
[03:56] <gogeta> neo haha you didnt knoe that
[03:56] <Zak> Hi everybody
[03:56] <pike__> Demize: try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[03:56] <Pelo> Demize,  check your laptop model on this link and in the forum ,see if there are any issues mentionned  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport  www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:56] <Zak> can anyone here give a good link to how program AJAX under ubuntu?
[03:57] <Pelo> IanLiu,  I think fspot lets you do that , but not sure , check into it
[03:57] <IanLiu> ok, I will see
[03:57] <{Zeus}> f-spot is an image program IIRC
[03:57] <subinacls> hello
[03:57] <Demize> Pike__: It gives /dev/dsp Device or resoure busy
[03:57] <Pelo> IanLiu,  also serch in synaptic for wallpaper see what progs are in there one might do it for you
[03:57] <pike__> IanLiu: if you can find were it is in .gconf or wherever it is pretty easy to script that i guess
[03:58] <Pelo> {Zeus}, yes , it is an image prog and it has a few extra features, like displaying your pics in the screensaver and such
[03:58] <c01100011> can anyone recommend a good jabber service with aim transport ? bgmn.net is having hicups
[03:58] <disregardnotific> is it possible that a bad powersupply can make a fx card go bad?
[03:58] <{Zeus}> fx?
[03:59] <subinacls> i am having some trouble  getting madwifi to authenticate to an access point, i have tried many online solutions but to no effect, can someone maybe point me in the right direction?
[03:59] <pike__> Demize: sorry fresh out of ideas :)  id go with Pelo's suggestion
[03:59] <{Zeus}> what is a fx card?
[03:59] <pike__> subinacls: wpa?
[03:59] <Pelo> c01100011, try the jabber website or look for a jabber channel
[03:59] <subinacls> Demize: you can do sudo killall -9 cat
[03:59] <disregardnotific> graphics card
[03:59] <heartsblood> anybody here use F@H?
[03:59] <{Zeus}> graphics card=gpu
[03:59] <{Zeus}> and yes, I'm sure a bad PSU could blow the GPU
[04:00] <heartsblood> nobody here uses F@H?  that makes mea cry :(
[04:00] <subinacls> folding at home
[04:00] <fevel> is 72,0C a normall gpu temperature?
[04:00] <Demize> Pelo: It says to go to voloume control->preferences and check external amplifier.
[04:00] <Pelo> heartsblood, if you have an issue just ask a specific quesiton,  we might not know the app but we might be able to help anyway
[04:00] <Demize> It's not there.
[04:01] <pike__> heartsblood: we try to save our cpu cycles for important stuff like 3d penguin screensavers
[04:01] <heartsblood> fevel: that's a little hot for casual use.
[04:01] <fevel> heartsblood, although it is a dualcore
[04:01] <Pelo> Demize,  type lspci in the terminal do you see your audio card there ?
[04:01] <disregardnotific> blow the GPU without damaging the mobo?
[04:01] <subinacls> MADWIFI help needed
[04:01] <Demize> Yeah, I think so.
[04:01] <heartsblood> fevel: dualcore doesn't matter
[04:01] <fevel> heartsblood, and its a laptop
[04:01] <Pelo> subinacls, ask a question , a specific one, and be patient we donT' have all the answer
[04:02] <Pelo> Demize, donT' think , check
[04:02] <subinacls> i understand
[04:02] <Demize> I did.
[04:02] <Pelo> subinacls,  you can also search the forum for answers  www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:02] <subinacls> lspci = 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c (rev 01)
[04:02] <subinacls> everything works fine untill authentication
[04:02] <heartsblood> fevel: I would get a can of compressed air give your system a good clean.  there's no reason it should be running that hot for casual use.  even if it is a laptop.
[04:03] <pike__> subinacls: ive not had an issue with my atheros card
[04:03] <subinacls> then no ip address from dhcp
[04:03] <Pelo> Demize,  check in  menu > sytem > admin> user make sure your user has permission to use the sound device
[04:03] <Demize> pelo: it says '00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)'
[04:03] <dissection> Is there an app I can use to create my own Ubuntu Live CD with the packages (and drivers) that I want?
[04:03] <Pelo> Demize,  check in menu > system > admin> restricted drivers see if there is a driver available for you
[04:03] <subinacls> i can sniff traffic
[04:04] <fevel> heartsblood, good idea...one last thing, I leave it on 24 hours a day 7 days a week =O
[04:04] <Pelo> dissection, hold on
[04:04] <Demize> Only NVDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver.
[04:04] <heartsblood> fevel: as long as you keep the vents clean how long you run it doesn't really matter.
[04:04] <subinacls> i try to connect with an AP and it can be wide open, and nothing = no ip address or association with AP
[04:05] <pike__> subinacls: you havent changed mac or anything right? thats my only gripe with new drivers i cant alter the mac to connect to ehm.. secured networks
[04:05] <Pelo> dissection, check this http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
[04:05] <Neodudeman> Ok. so here's what's up.
[04:05] <Pelo> Demize,  install it anyway
[04:05] <subinacls> nope mac fine havent changed it
[04:05] <dissection> okay.
[04:05] <subinacls> but its the oddest thing
[04:05] <Pelo> demize also check the forum for nvidia sound problems
[04:05] <subinacls> its the builti -in mini card version
[04:06] <subinacls> im not 100% sure on the exact model
[04:06] <pike__> subinacls: ah
[04:06] <heguru> dissection: you can also follow the ubuntu guide for LiveCD customization https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[04:06] <Neodudeman> I got to the gparted, Thanks Pelo, but when I tried to change the size of my linux partition, it gace me an error, and now there's a little lock icon next to each of the partitions
[04:06] <Demize> Gotta restart!
[04:06] <dissection> Okay, great
[04:06] <Gun_Smoke> When quiting a terminal with "exit" and the "there are stopped jobs"  is presented.. Have I forgot something?  I know another "exit" will still close the terminal.
[04:07] <Pelo> Neodudeman, all your hdd partitons get mounted to the desktop by the live cd,  you need to unmount them
[04:07] <dissection> And, is there a Terminal command for taking a screenshot? My other computer's monitor isn't working.. I'd like to SSH into it and take a screensho
[04:07] <subinacls> i have been working on this problem for a long time as well as many other people with the same laptop and other models
[04:07] <Neodudeman> Pelo: Ya, just saw that. Trying again
[04:07] <subinacls> toshiba a105-s2101
[04:07] <heartsblood> Is it possible to move or release a fah work unit?  I need upgrade the HDD raid on the system i have it running on and I dont want to screw anything important up.  I wouldn't be asking here, but I didn't see anything in the official faq's about moving the work folder.  I would like to think moving it wouldn't hurt it other than pushing the due date back, but I don't like to assume.
[04:07] <dissection> *screenshot
[04:08] <riotkittie> dissection: look into scrot
[04:08] <Pelo> dissection,  prnscrn usualy does it , alt+ prnscrn takes a shot of the active window
[04:08] <JAppleSeed> Hey, can someone tell me how to scroll in memtest86+
[04:09] <edman007_> JAppleSeed, if you need to scroll then just get new RAM
[04:09] <pike__> shift pgup/pgdown?
[04:09] <Pelo> JAppleSeed,  arrows ?
[04:09] <heartsblood> scroll?  if you see that many errors buy new ram.
[04:09] <Neodudeman> lol
[04:09] <subinacls> what is up with ATH5
[04:09] <Nubbie> lol.
[04:09] <subinacls> from madwifi
[04:09] <JAppleSeed> problem is I have 0 cash right now and I need this to work at least for a week
[04:10] <Pelo> !enter | subinacls
[04:10] <ubotu> subinacls: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:10] <subinacls> copy
[04:11] <JAppleSeed> ok Pg up/down and the arrow keys don't scroll it
[04:11] <dragon33> greetings,  is there a program like process explorer (windows) that graphically displays all processes? thanks
[04:11] <Demize> Okay, I installed the driver, nothing happened
[04:11] <Pelo> dragon33,  menu > syutem > admin > system monitor
[04:11] <dragon33> thanks Pelo
[04:12] <heartsblood> dragon33: man top.  art is for pussy's
[04:12] <Pelo> Demize, check in the forum for your soundcard model   www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:12] <stdin> !ohmy | heartsblood
[04:12] <ubotu> heartsblood: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:12] <dragon33> thanks heartsblood
[04:12] <Nubbie> <3 pelo.
[04:13] <heartsblood> if you want a shiny interface xp -->
[04:13] <Neodudeman> oh man. you know what I'd love? an awesome wifi antenna. that'd be nice
[04:13] <Draggin> Hey again... Was wondering - does anyone in here have any video-editing experience, more specifically, has anyone worked with PiTiVi and Cinelerra and can someone give me the low-down on which is better and why?
[04:13] <Nubbie> heartsblood: k you're trolling now, move along.
[04:14] <pike__> Neodudeman: get one of those military grade boosters.. fry your neighbors
[04:14] <Nubbie> Draggin: you'll probably find yourself using both regularly.
[04:14] <Neodudeman> lol
[04:14] <Pelo> Neodudeman,  get some copper wire and attach it to he anthena and run it along he wall
[04:14] <Nubbie> pike_: high powered microwave transmitters.
[04:14] <Neodudeman> Pelo: does that work?
[04:14] <Neodudeman> Pelo: cause if it does, I'm Soo There.
[04:14] <Draggin> Nubbie sort both of them cover different aspects?
[04:14] <MasterShrek> whats the point of a wireless connection then?
[04:15] <MasterShrek> carrying around a coil of copper wire kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it?
[04:15] <Nubbie> Draggin: they both have their good points, may as well use all of them i think.
[04:15] <MasterShrek> =P
[04:15] <Pelo> Neodudeman, an anthena is jsut a bit of metal to make the receiver have more ...  area ,  for better connection  tie the wire to the screw bit
[04:15] <Pelo> masterloki,  you do that on the router , not on the wifi card
[04:16] <Draggin> Nubbie - don't you find it a little annoying if you can't perform everything relating to one task, in one program?
[04:16] <MasterShrek> MasterShrek** :)
[04:16] <choke> good night
[04:16] <choke> i have a problem here
[04:16] <Nubbie> Draggin: that's life in general for you though isn't it?
[04:16] <infekted> anyone tell me why i would get this error and how to correct it: root@infekted-desktop:/home/infekted/Desktop# et-linux-2.06.x86.run
[04:16] <infekted> bash: et-linux-2.06.x86.run: command not found
[04:16] <Neodudeman> Pelo: But doesn't it require some amplification? The signal would get lost in a long line like that.
[04:16] <matt_> i installed Ubuntu (a long time ago), but recently installed kubuntu-desktop, but i rebooted, and kdm can't be found, so i am in the failsafe terminal. what shall i do? i tried starting gdm, but something didn't work. any ideas?
[04:16] <Pelo> yes choke it is a good night for problems half he ppl here hve them
[04:16] <MasterShrek> infekted, put ./   before it
[04:17] <MasterShrek> matt_, reinstall kdm?
[04:17] <choke> my audio card doesnt work in ubuntu! why?
[04:17] <Nubbie> MasterShrek speaks truth, much faster than I do.
[04:17] <matt_> MasterShrek: i tried, but...it is already installed
[04:17] <MasterShrek> matt_, remove it and install it again
[04:17] <matt_> Nubbie: but kdm is installed
[04:17] <Nubbie> choke: are you sure you haven't recently become deaf?
[04:17] <matt_> MasterShrek: ok, sounds like a plan
[04:17] <infekted> root@infekted-desktop:/home/infekted/Desktop# ./et-linux-2.06.x86.run
[04:17] <infekted> bash: ./et-linux-2.06.x86.run: No such file or directory
[04:17] <Pelo> Neodudeman,  you are just making the receiver bigger,  not transfering hte signal a longer distance
[04:17] <matt_> let me try it
[04:17] <Draggin> Nubbie - I dunno... Like Blender seems to have it down pretty well... You can do just about everything relating to the task at hand in it, without needing other packages...
[04:17] <heguru> matt_: reinstall it, sudo apt-get --reinstall install kdm
[04:17] <annaimkonki> we all know Firefox is the best browser, if you were not to live without it
[04:17] <matt_> heguru: ok
[04:17] <MasterShrek> infekted, chmod a+x et-linux-2....run
[04:17] <annaimkonki> what would be  your send choice
[04:17] <choke> Nubbie, what?
[04:18] <annaimkonki> 2nd
[04:18] <MasterShrek> opera
[04:18] <Nubbie> choke: never mind, i'm sorry heheh i dunno why your sound card isn't working. check to make sure your outputs aren't muted.
[04:18] <Pelo> ok enough for me,  g'night foks
[04:18] <Neodudeman> Pelo: Oh ok
[04:18] <annaimkonki> MasterShrek: opera has only one star on popularity in ubuntu///
[04:19] <MasterShrek> annaimkonki, konqueror isnt too bad either if ur using kde
[04:19] <beanage> .
[04:19] <zcat[1] > opera is the suck!
[04:19] <DShepherd> annaimkonki, stars are overrated :-)
[04:19] <annaimkonki> any other browser supports page zooming like opera & iE 7
[04:19] <Neodudeman> is opera really that bad?
[04:20] <multidex> what is the command line to unzip a bz2 file?  tar -bxvf something.tar.bz2 for example
[04:20] <infekted> nothing happened
[04:20] <no_gatez_fan> opera does ok for me
[04:20] <Draggin> Neodudeman - I don't know about Opera on Linux, but Opera on Windows is a very cool browser, probably much better than IE
[04:20] <heguru> multidex: tar -jxvf tar.bz
[04:20] <MasterShrek> multidex, tar -xjvf
[04:20] <multidex> thank you heguru and MasterShrek!
[04:20] <MasterShrek> :)
[04:20] <bruenig> Draggin, ha, not a particularly strong argument
[04:20] <choke> Nubbie, where can i see that? i have two audio cards inboard and off
[04:20] <Neodudeman> Draggin: But is it cooler than firefox? That's the questionn
[04:20] <Neodudeman> lol. bruenig
[04:20] <Draggin> bruenig, true, I'm just saying, it's not crap :)
[04:21] <Neodudeman> what's the difference in opera then?
[04:21] <no_gatez_fan> i like it better......
[04:21] <no_gatez_fan> opera
[04:21] <Draggin> Neodudeman - no, I doubt that.  Firefox is one of the best and most stable browsers I've ever seen
[04:21] <scag> pike__: Just saw you mentioned about a military grade booster. Which one? Do those really work over long distances?
[04:21] <choke> how can i disable onboard?
[04:21] <heguru> choke: BIOS
[04:21] <pool> HOLAS
[04:21] <AngryElf> is there any way to get an even more basic startup mode than recovery mode -- like one that doesn't even attempt to load my md arrays?
[04:21] <annaimkonki> i want a browser that supports page zooming cuz the pages that show up are to small for me to see... i know opera is one.. do the others do... firefox 3 will i know
[04:21] <pool> HAY ALGUIEN K HABLE ESPAOL
[04:21] <MasterShrek> AngryElf, theres probably other kernel parameters you can pass from grub
[04:22] <MasterShrek> !es
[04:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:22] <Neodudeman> Yay!! Partition is done Partitioning!
[04:22] <Coded1> annaimkonki: if you mean making the text larger in FF 2x you can "CTRL + mouse wheel" to increase the font size
[04:22] <choke> heguru, what is the exacly name in BIOS?
[04:22] <dharma4> hi..
[04:22] <zcat[1] > annaimkonki: I set minimum font size so text is always readable..
[04:23] <choke> where is the option
[04:23] <heguru> choke: depends on your bios, look for something like disable onboard/integrated Audio
[04:23] <annaimkonki> Coded1: not text size... the actual page... all of it... opera does it
[04:23] <heguru> annaimkonki: there is an addon for ff
[04:23] <MasterShrek> annaimkonki, does ff have a plugin for that maybe?
[04:23] <annaimkonki> u actually zoom in the page
[04:23] <Neodudeman> uh oh.
[04:23] <zcat[1] > annaimkonki: you can also use the zoom feature in compiz/beryl (which works everywhere, not just the browser)
[04:23] <Coded1> so why do u need another browser?
[04:23] <choke> heguru, i will check thanks
[04:23] <Neodudeman> hey, can someone help me out here?
[04:23] <Neodudeman> i have a problem with gparted
[04:23] <MasterShrek> !ask
[04:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:24] <matt_> ok, so i tried uninstalling and installing kdm, restarted, same thing. any idea? i tried to start kdm, replied "only root wants to run kdm", so i sudoed it, but still nothing.
[04:24] <Neodudeman> how do I use unallocated partition to add into another partition in gparted?
[04:24] <Neodudeman> let me rephrace
[04:24] <Neodudeman> rephrase and spell check
[04:24] <MasterShrek> what happened when u did sudo kdm matt_ ?
[04:24] <matt_> MasterShrek: nothing, as far as i can tell
[04:24] <Neodudeman> How do I add unallocated space into a partition in gparted?
[04:24] <annaimkonki> zcat[1] : i want a browser that can do it for me... something other than opera...
[04:25] <zcat[1] > annaimkonki: apparently there's a ff plugin for it :)
[04:25] <MasterShrek> matt_, type: whereis kdm
[04:25] <matt_> MasterShrek: cntrl, alt, f6 would go to the gui, wouldn't it
[04:25] <heguru> annaimkonki: is Firefox with Addons not an option for you?
[04:25] <zcat[1] > there's an ff plugin for practically everything..
[04:25] <MasterShrek> Neodudeman, i suppose click on the unallocated part and click new
[04:25] <matt_> /usr/bin/kdm
[04:25] <annaimkonki> ff plugin for firefox?? i have firefox now
[04:25] <riotkittie> yea. i used to have a zoom plugin for firefox
[04:25] <MasterShrek> f7 matt_
[04:25] <heguru> annaimkonki: PageZoom plugin
[04:25] <genii> matt_: try:   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:25] <zcat[1] > a zoom plugin for firefox..
[04:25] <MasterShrek> yes matt_ try genii's advice
[04:26] <annaimkonki> heguru: ok ill try that plugin... brb
[04:26] <annaimkonki> thnx
[04:26] <matt_> genii: looks like it is trying to do something
[04:26] <matt_> but the screen flickers, and shows a blinking cursor
[04:26] <Coded1> im using tvtime, ive scanned the channels with no problems but when i execute 'tvtime' it says:xvoutput: No YUY2 XVIDEO port available.
[04:26] <Coded1> *** tvtime requires a hardware YUY2 overlay.  One is supported
[04:26] <Coded1> *** by your driver, but we could not grab it.
[04:26] <Coded1> oops
[04:26] <annaimkonki> anyway i read about firefox, and it was said page zoom will be out on ver. 3.0
[04:26] <Coded1> sorry about the paste
[04:27] <genii> matt_: After this, do: alt-f7 to go to gui console. some machines is alt-f9
[04:27] <Coded1> ive used lsof /dev/video* and nothing comes up
[04:27] <BUDD}{A> does anyone have a dual headed ati card and can help me with getting my two monitors set up
[04:27] <matt_> genii: i tried all of them
[04:27] <Coded1> ive also tried 'tvtime' as root
[04:27] <Draggin> annaimkonki - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1499
[04:27] <MasterShrek> Coded1, gksu tvtime
[04:28] <MasterShrek> matt_, ps -e | grep kdm
[04:28] <Coded1> MasterShrek: same error
[04:28] <Neodudeman> MasterShrek: Ok, thanks for the tip Mastershrek; but at the risk of sounding helpless and possibly damaging my partitions: What do I do next? =/
[04:28] <Coded1> i can 'cat /dev/video0' and i get output with out error
[04:29] <annaimkonki> ok thanks Draggins
[04:29] <davis_> hi, i installed jdk-6 and set path via .bashrc so java -version uses correct version.  i put a launcher for eclipse on desktop, but it always uses jdk1.4, how can i get launcher to use right environment var?
[04:29] <genii> matt_: Sounds like your X is misconfigured
[04:29] <MasterShrek> Neodudeman, if it says its unallocated you shouldnt have any problems
[04:29] <razer> If I want to have the desktop graphics run smoother am I supposed to install the Nvidia binary x.org driver from add/remove?
[04:29] <matt_> MasterShrek: what should it say?
[04:29] <Neodudeman> MasterShrek: I try to resize my hda1 partition, but its maximum size stays at 14gb while I still have 26gb
[04:29] <choke> i cant put my audio card working
[04:29] <matt_> genii: possibly...
[04:29] <choke> i need help here please
[04:29] <choke> :\
[04:29] <razer> (my windows down even scroll smooth on geforce 2 regular graphics mode)
[04:30] <heguru> davis_: don't use .bashrc, use update-alternatives --config java
[04:30] <Neodudeman> MasterShrek: That's 26gb unallocated.
[04:30] <matt_> genii: let me try this
[04:30] <MasterShrek> matt_, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:30] <matt_> genii: that nvidia xorg config thing, remember the command
[04:30] <razer> Am I supposed to install the driver that is listed under add/remove for nvidia, is that best to improve 2d performance of default ubuntu?
[04:30] <choke> I WANT MUSIC
[04:30] <choke> :)
[04:30] <davis_> heguru -- thx.  will check that
[04:30] <MasterShrek> Neodudeman, and you want to 'stretch' it over the open space?
[04:30] <genii> matt_: If this is the case, go back to console 1 by alt-f1. then you can build a new xorg.conf file if you know some things about your hardware.
[04:30] <choke> heguru, didnt find
[04:30] <choke> :1
[04:31] <razer> I am supposed to install the nvidia x.org driver to improve default ubuntu 2d graphics?
[04:31] <matt_> genii: somewhat
[04:31] <DShepherd> matt_, nvidia-xconfig
[04:31] <MasterShrek> razer, it helps
[04:31] <Neodudeman> MasterShrek: I Want to, but there is no open space available. Maybe I should do a restart so that it knows there is unallocated.
[04:31] <razer> MasterShrek: Is that the graphics driver, like in windows?
[04:31] <MasterShrek> maybe Neodudeman
[04:31] <genii> matt_: if you issue: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    it will ask you a number of questions regarding your setup. you can do this if you know most of the correct things about your video,mouse etc.
[04:31] <star1> Hi everyone, I have a friend who needs to use something called a "WPA Supplicant configuration file," any idea on how to use that?  I found something saying to edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, but there doesn't appear to be a file like that
[04:31] <heguru> choke: then your second option would be to blacklist the driver for onboard audio
[04:31] <MasterShrek> razer, yes, you can install it using ubuntu's restricted drivers manager, or you can install the driver from nvidias site
[04:32] <razer> Because the driver says to accelerate opengl, but I want to it to accelerate plain 2d as well.
[04:32] <MasterShrek> star1, you create it
[04:32] <heguru> !wpa | star1
[04:32] <ubotu> star1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:32] <genii> matt_: Before this you should halt kdm by: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:32] <star1> Thanks very much
[04:32] <annaimkonki> firefox pagezoom extension doesn't look very goood....
[04:32] <choke> heguru, how can i do that? blacklist the driver for onboard audio
[04:33] <razer> Is there a more efficient dock than the default ubuntu one at the bottom?
[04:33] <BUDD}{A> does anyone have a dual headed ati card and can help me with getting my two monitors set up
[04:33] <bruenig> razer, efficient meaning?
[04:33] <bruenig> less resource intensive?
[04:33] <matt_> trying that now
[04:33] <heguru> choke: find the onboard audio type: lspci | grep -i audio
[04:35] <JdU1> helo
[04:35] <choke> heguru, 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[04:35] <MasterShrek> hello JdU1
[04:35] <bean|EndersGame> hello
[04:35] <heguru> BUDD}{A: aticonfig --initial=dual-head did it for me (caution: it will override your current xorg.conf, and can break your current X)
[04:36] <matt_> \
[04:36] <heguru> choke: pastebin the output of: lsmod | grep snd_
[04:36] <jewbilee> Can someone help me write a custom shell script?
[04:36] <MasterShrek> jewbilee, for what?
[04:37] <razer> I ran the nvidia driver from add/remove and it said not completed and some failed? What is going on there?
[04:37] <jewbilee> just to not have to type a commonly used command
[04:37] <WhozURdaddy> can anyone tell me where where kvpnc keeps openvpn configs?  I've searched for .opvn and no luck
[04:37] <bruenig> jewbilee, just get on with it
[04:37] <heguru> jewbilee: use aliases for that
[04:37] <jewbilee> I would like an easier way to do "ssh -X -C -l (USERNAME) (REMOTE SERVER)"
[04:37] <heguru> jewbilee: e.g. alias s='cd ..'
[04:38] <MasterShrek> jewbilee, you can just put the command in a file in /usr/bin and make sure its executable
[04:38] <zetheroo> how do I install HandBrakeCLI in Ubuntu?
[04:38] <MasterShrek> make the filename whatever you want the command to be called
[04:38] <subversion> Morning.  I've got a package installed that is incapable of making it through configuration, and hence will not let me either properly install it or remove it.  Any suggestions?
[04:38] <heguru> jewbilee: alias myssh='ssh -X -C -l '
[04:38] <bruenig> http://pastebin.ca/732562
[04:38] <razer> Does add/remove nvidia driver fail often?
[04:39] <razer> I Just tried to install the nvidia driver from add/remove and it failed.
[04:39] <bruenig> it doesn't fail
[04:39] <zetheroo> anyone know how to install HandBrakeCLI in Ubuntu?
[04:39] <bruenig> it installs it, it just doesn't work with your card
[04:39] <MasterShrek> razer, i always just use the driver from nvidias site, but its somewhat complicated if you dont know what you are doing
[04:39] <annaimkonki> PAGEZOOM in firefox is the same as ctrl++, its just alt++/=- etc...
[04:39] <Neodudeman> MasterShrek: I still can't resize
[04:39] <razer> bruenig: It failed. I have a geforce2 and it did not work.
[04:39] <MasterShrek> Neodudeman, is it mounted?
[04:39] <bruenig> razer, it didn't fail
[04:39] <Neodudeman> MasterShrek: No.
[04:39] <MasterShrek> Neodudeman, are you running gparted as root?
[04:40] <annaimkonki> its a no use plugin.... firefox failed me for the first time...
[04:40] <Neodudeman> MasterShrek: Yes
[04:40] <bean|EndersGame> Why is it that when using ubuntu my screen saver will freeze up after being away and the only way i know of to get back is to hard boot.
[04:40] <razer> bruenig: So it just says that?
[04:40] <bruenig> razer, I am confident that the binary files it was supposed to move over, were moved over
[04:40] <MasterShrek> Neodudeman, is the unallocated section right next to the section you are trying to resize?
[04:40] <subversion> Is there a way to make apt remove a package without trying to execute its configuration script?
[04:40] <bruenig> or are you saying that the binary files did not get moved over?
[04:40] <razer> bruenig: Ok, but it crashed the add/remove so it won't start up again and now the computer won't shut down.
[04:40] <Neodudeman> MasterShrek: No, It's not. How do I move it?
[04:40] <usr13> bean|EndersGame,  Turn off screensaver.
[04:41] <bruenig> razer, you have an issue with mistaken causality for sure
[04:41] <Nubbie> subversion: it needs to check dependencies.
[04:41] <MasterShrek> Neodudeman, i dont know for sure, i dont really use gparted, there should be an option to move them aroudn somewhere
[04:41] <subversion> Nubbie: It's not a dependency issue; the post-install script fails, so dpkg refuses to touch it.
[04:42] <bruenig> subversion, what package is it
[04:42] <heguru> subversion: if its not removing, and nothing else is working, you can manually edit/remove the postrm scripts
[04:42] <heguru> subversion: they exist in: /var/lib/dpkg/info
[04:42] <KNY> is OOo 2.3 bundled with 7.10?
[04:42] <bruenig> !topic | KNY
[04:42] <heguru> KNY: yes
[04:43] <jrib> subversion: what package?
[04:43] <bruenig> ubotu, hi
[04:43] <ubotu> KNY: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[04:43] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:43] <Neodudeman> MasterShrek: Alright. Thanks MS. I think I have an idea. I'm going to make a new partition, half of the unallocated, and copy the linux partition into it. Then, I shall delete the old Linux partition, and that will give unallocated space right next to the XP Partition! Should it be that complicated?
[04:43] <KNY> heguru, excellent. I'll wait for 7.10 before upgrading OOo then :)
[04:43] <subversion> jrib, bruenig: libapache-mod-lisp
[04:43] <bruenig> subversion, so does it come with a daemon?
[04:43] <genii> subversion: I've found a few apps which refer to nonexistent files which can just be touched and +x for them to be satisfied at removal
[04:43] <MasterShrek> i dunno Neodudeman it depends no how complicated your partition scheme is
[04:43] <subversion> Nope, it's an apache module, or so I'm led to understand.
[04:43] <choke> heguru, i am waiting
[04:44] <choke> :\
[04:44] <KNY> bruenig, were you telling me to go to #ubuntu+1?
[04:44] <usr13> KNY,  You can just install OO 2.3
[04:44] <subversion> There was an apache version issue, which cuased it to break down, I think.
[04:44] <bruenig> KNY, just to read the topic
[04:44] <heguru> choke: did you pastebin the output of lsmod | grep snd_
[04:44] <who1> hey, i cant get music to play on my ubuntu?
[04:44] <who1> hey, i cant get music to play on my ubuntu?
[04:44] <Demize> I've looked, it hasn't been resolved. Appearently, there's a fix that makes sound come out of the mic jack, but I don't know how to apply it.
[04:44] <Bossmanbeta> yes who1
[04:44] <usr13> KNY,  It's not difficult.
[04:44] <jrib> subversion: there's no such package in the repos
[04:44] <bruenig> who1, ok
[04:44] <who1> hey, i cant get music to play on my ubuntu?
[04:44] <genii> subversion: Can you pastebin the error?
[04:44] <Neodudeman> ugh. this is so annoying. MasterShrek, what partition manager do you use?
[04:44] <KNY> usr13, right, but meh. I'll save myself the download and whatnot for another week.
[04:44] <razer> I just restarted ubuntu because it crashed and now it has a blank desktop wallpaper. What can I do?
[04:44] <usr13> who1, Why not?
[04:44] <KNY> I'll survive with lowly 2.2 until then :)
[04:45] <choke> heguru,
[04:45] <choke> snd_intel8x0           34332  1
[04:45] <choke> snd_ac97_codec         98464  1 snd_intel8x0
[04:45] <choke> ac97_bus                3200  1 snd_ac97_codec
[04:45] <who1> im not sure
[04:45] <choke> snd_pcm_oss            44544  0
[04:45] <MasterShrek> Neodudeman, i dont use a partition manager, i set it up right the first time :P
[04:45] <choke> snd_mixer_oss          17408  1 snd_pcm_oss
[04:45] <choke> snd_pcm                79876  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[04:45] <genii> jrib: It seems to exist in mine when I do apt-cache search for it
[04:45] <choke> snd_seq_dummy           4740  0
[04:45] <choke> snd_seq_oss            32896  0
[04:45] <heguru> choke: don't paste here! use pastebin
[04:45] <choke> snd_seq_midi            9600  0
[04:45] <heguru> !pastebin
[04:45] <choke> snd_rawmidi            25472  1 snd_seq_midi
[04:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:45] <jrib> subversion: my mistake, it is just not in gutsy
[04:45] <choke> snd_seq_midi_event      8448  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
[04:45] <genii> !pastebin|choke
[04:45] <ubotu> choke: please see above
[04:45] <who1> guess its not communicating with the sound card
[04:45] <who1> its on an external hardisk
[04:46] <Bars_Teic[work] > What russian channel about ubuntu?
[04:46] <heguru> !ru
[04:46] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[04:46] <usr13> whol, What are you  trying to do?
[04:46] <razer> is there a keyboard command to restart ubuntu?
[04:46] <bruenig> who1, just tell us what you are doing, don't say things like "such and such isn't working" tell us what you are doing and what it is doing
[04:46] <heguru> razer: reboot
[04:46] <who1> yes,sure
[04:46] <razer> I have no dock, everything disappeared
[04:46] <who1> i play the song
[04:46] <razer> I only have desktop wallpaper and right click, everything else is gone and I already reobooted.
[04:46] <choke> heguru, sorry :|
[04:46] <who1> the bar is moving indicating its playing
[04:46] <choke> !pastbin
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <Acoustyk> I have a laptop question
[04:46] <subversion> I've got it working now by removing all substance from the post-install/pre-rm scripts.  Thanks for the help.
[04:46] <heguru> choke: np :)
[04:46] <who1> but i cant hear any music
[04:47] <heguru> !pastebin
[04:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:47] <Bars_Teic[work] > thank
[04:47] <usr13> who1, What application are you using?  What type of audio file are you playing?  etc. etc.
[04:47] <heguru> choke: just paste to pastebin and give me the link here
[04:47] <who1> its an mp3 file
[04:47] <genii> razer: Your screen may be virtual size. Try putting the cursor past all the edges and see if it scrolls
[04:47] <who1> but the fact is it dosent play any music at all
[04:47] <jrib> subversion: usually those scripts do something meaningful, you need to check
[04:47] <Bars_Teic[work] > (heguru) thank you
[04:47] <usr13> whol, What application are you using to play the mp3 file?
[04:47] <jewbilee> I've made a file in my bin folder called ritssh that is a shell script for "ssh -X -C -l" and ive chmoded it for a-rx but I still cannot use it wihtout sudo
[04:47] <razer> genil, that didn't work, but the restart on the computer did.
[04:47] <who1> tried playin som music online like youtube
[04:48] <usr13> who1, Do you have sound card configured?  Or not?
[04:48] <MasterShrek> jewbilee, chmod 777 it
[04:48] <subversion> jrib:  They don't, because the files that they refer do don't exist.
[04:48] <heguru> jewbilee: chmod a+x ritssh
[04:48] <who1> how do i check that?
[04:48] <choke> heguru, i dont understand what do you want me to do
[04:48] <Acoustyk> ever since I installed ubuntu on my laptop it loses battery power it loses power extremely fast.  even in windows (dual boot).  I dont know what the problem is but there definitely is one because I used to be able to squeeze 2 hours minimum out of this puppy. any ideas?
[04:48] <choke> :|
[04:48] <MasterShrek> jewbilee, also put it in /usr/bin its probably a better place for it
[04:48] <heguru> choke: i want you to run this command: lsmod | grep snd_
[04:48] <who1> how do i check if my sound card is configured or not?
[04:48] <subversion> It seemed to let me install an apache 1.x module without apache 1.x being installed, which, as I'm sure you can imagine, caused some issues.
[04:48] <heguru> choke: then copy the output and paste in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:48] <jrib> subversion: you should file bugs at bugs.ubuntu.com then
[04:49] <who1> how do i check if my sound card is configured or not?
[04:49] <choke> i already past in here
[04:49] <BrendanJ> I have a weird problem where sometimes after I've been using the computer for a while, it stops being able to connect to websites, or ping other machines on the LAN. Bizarrely, Pidgin keeps working fine. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[04:49] <Hilikus_> how do i time the execution of a shell script?
[04:49] <heguru> choke: don't paste in here, paste in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:49] <choke> ok
[04:49] <BrendanJ> Hilikus_, cron job?
[04:49] <MasterShrek> Hilikus_, cron
[04:49] <usr13> who1, Alt-F2 ->gnome-terminal -> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[04:50] <who1> 1 sec
[04:50] <usr13> who1, Do  you hear noise?
[04:50] <subversion> jrib: Normally I would, but I think I buggered my apache installation a few months ago when I uninstalled it, so it's more likely my fault.
[04:50] <jrib> Hilikus_: 'time'
[04:50] <Hilikus_> oh sorry, i mean, mmm time the duration, so like, it took 10 seconds
[04:50] <basis> why doesn't "su" work?  i don't remember setting up a root account during install either
[04:50] <genii> usr13: Interesting pipe there
[04:50] <choke> heguru, done! ;)
[04:50] <jrib> !root > basis (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:50] <MasterShrek> basis root doesnt have a password
[04:50] <heguru> choke: now paste the link here :)
[04:50] <heguru> choke: just the link!
[04:50] <basis> thx
[04:51] <choke> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40230/
[04:51] <who1> wat is this ?bash: cat/dev/urandom: No such file or directory
[04:51] <who1> wat is this ? bash: cat/dev/urandom: No such file or directory
[04:51] <razer> "e:_cache->open() failed, please report" ???
[04:51] <vanberge> probably a dumb question, but can you run thunderbird 2 on ubuntu 7.10 ?  all apt ever gives me is 1.5
[04:51] <heguru> choke: you said you have two audio cards, one built-in and the other
[04:51] <frostburn> who1, $cat /dev/urandom
[04:51] <genii> who1: put a space after cat
[04:51] <jrib> who1: no need to repeat.  If you do not see what is wrong, then I doubt you want to do that command
[04:52] <choke> heguru, yes
[04:52] <usr13> who1, Alt-F2 -> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[04:52] <heguru> choke: what type is the 2nd sound card?
[04:52] <usr13> who1, You misstyped
[04:52] <Calicoo> Where are internet settings saved to?
[04:52] <pike__> vanberge: you should be able to just grab the tar.gz from mozilla website  and unpack and run it
[04:52] <MasterShrek> vanberge, of course you can run it, if its not in the repos you may need to go somewhere else to get a package
[04:52] <choke> heguru, 7.1
[04:52] <jrib> who1: don't do that
[04:52] <PlanetaryNapkin> If anyone has any ideas: I just got an mp3 player [Cowon iAudio 7] , and I can't get it to mount. Error is as follows: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40231/
[04:52] <jewbilee> Even with it ritssh chmodded to 777 or a-x, I still cannot run it without sudo
[04:52] <who1> 1 sec, excuse me for my impatience, am a bit frustrated thats all
[04:52] <usr13> whol, you can kill it with command:  pkill cat
[04:52] <vanberge> pike_, i saw that - but figured tar.gz would be source code
[04:52] <heguru> choke: what make? and what type of connection (USB or PCI)?
[04:52] <choke> heguru, abit fatal1ty an8 ;)
[04:52] <jrib> usr13: why are you advising that?
[04:53] <usr13> jrib, I'm not advising anything.  What are you talking about?
[04:53] <MasterShrek> jewbilee, whats the command in there? just an ssh command isnt it?
[04:53] <choke> heguru, i think is PCI
[04:53] <pike__> vanberge: to be honest ive never installed thunderbird but that holds tru for firefox and such
[04:53] <heguru> choke: you have to pastebin the output of lspci and lsusb commands
[04:53] <jrib> usr13: "Alt-F2 -> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"
[04:54] <who1> oh god, yes i do hear a lot of noise
[04:54] <usr13> jrib, To test sound
[04:54] <vanberge> pike_,  ok... np.  thanks...!
[04:54] <scam> can you check for badblocks on your os drive.. while using it? or do i have to boot into a live cd
[04:54] <vanberge> pike__
[04:54] <vanberge> i mean
[04:54] <usr13> jrib, To see if his sound card is working.
[04:54] <vanberge> :-)
[04:54] <razer> at nvidia site for driver it only lists FX, 6,7 and 8 series for download. DO they not support geforce 2?
[04:54] <davis_> heguru, tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332674#1 -- update-alternatives commands ok..recognized new jdk6 as default, but java -version says no java is installed
[04:54] <MasterShrek> scam,  prolly have to boot a livecd, i dont think it can be mounted
[04:54] <jrib> usr13: do something sane like playing a wav file...
[04:54] <who1> yes, i can hear a lot of noise if i type $cat /dev/urandom
[04:54] <frostburn> razer, i think there are xorg drivers for geforce2
[04:54] <MasterShrek> razer, you need unix/linux drivers
[04:55] <usr13> jrib, What is the difference?
[04:55] <razer> frostburn: when I try to install it using add/remove it give me an error.
[04:55] <bean|EndersGame>  using 'sudo apt-get install git-core linux-headers-generic' I get 'git-core is already the newest version.
[04:55] <bean|EndersGame> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-generic
[04:55] <bean|EndersGame> '
[04:55] <jewbilee> Mastershrek: the command is this "ssh -X -C -l"
[04:55] <heguru> davis_: are you using edgy?
[04:55] <who1> wat do i do now?
[04:55] <usr13> who1,  pkill cat
[04:55] <frostburn> razer, if you get a basic desktop, that's about all the support you'll get i believe, check the ubuntu forums
[04:55] <jrib> usr13: you don't go deaf and it's easy to stop
[04:55] <who1> 1 sec
[04:55] <davis_> feisty
[04:55] <MasterShrek> jwebilee i dont know why it would be asking you for sudo
[04:55] <Calicoo> Where are internet settings saved to? And can I restore them after a clean install if I burn them to a disc?
[04:56] <who1> no,no i stopped it
[04:56] <MasterShrek> razer, http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[04:56] <who1> i meant wat do i do nxt?
[04:56] <choke> heguru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40232/
[04:56] <bulmer> Calicoo: what internet settings?
[04:56] <Kylie2004> I'm running apache2, and I have a .htpasswd file in the my /var/www-ssl/passwd folder.  I have two users in it.  It is working like it should but I"m trying to figure out how the .htpasswd files are able to keep all users out of every folder past the www-ssl folder.   I can't remember how i setup apache2 ubuntu originally and some confused.  Please help me
[04:56] <heguru> jwebilee: is alias not an option for you? for such one line script, alias should be your first choice
[04:56] <Negra> is moblock on the repos?
[04:56] <jewbilee> MasterShrek: what directory do I need it to be in, right now its in /bin
[04:56] <usr13> whol,  play /usr/share/sounds/*
[04:56] <MasterShrek> jewbilee, try putting it in /usr/bin
[04:56] <jewbilee> heguru: i dont know how to do an alias
[04:56] <who1> 1 sec
[04:57] <heguru> jwebilee: alias ritssh='ssh -X -C -l'
[04:57] <bean|EndersGame>  using 'sudo apt-get install git-core linux-headers-generic' I get 'git-core is already the newest version. E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-generic
[04:57] <MasterShrek> Negra, i dont think so, but maybe, i dont remember where i got it
[04:57] <scam> MasterShrek, i didnt think so
[04:57] <Wolf23> hi firends
[04:57] <Calicoo> bulmer: Internet settings to recognize the card and such. I had to download something to get ubuntu to recognize it and get me online, and I don't remember what it was.
[04:57] <bean|EndersGame> anyone know why it's not finding linux-headers-generic?
[04:57] <heguru> Hi Wolf23
[04:57] <MasterShrek> whats that scam?
[04:57] <razer> Hey, I know why
[04:57] <davis_> jewbilee: alias ls='ls -al' is example
[04:57] <Wolf23> heguru:  hi :)
[04:57] <razer> I downloaded the driver from nvidia, and it said it is supported by the LEGACY driver
[04:57] <jrib> bean|EndersGame: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:57] <jewbilee> MasterShrek: I've moved it to /usr/bin and now i get an error "bash: /bin/ritssh: no such file or directory"
[04:57] <Kylie2004> can anyone help me understand .htaccess/.htpasswd files?
[04:58] <razer> Geforce 2 is legacy
[04:58] <who1> bash: play/usr/share/sounds/*: No such file or directory
[04:58] <Wolf23> heguru:  can you help me?
[04:58] <Flannel> razer: Why are you downloading drivers from nvidia?  They're in the repositories.
[04:58] <choke> heguru, did you saw?
[04:58] <heguru> Wolf23: can you ask your question :)
[04:58] <MasterShrek> jewbilee, just type ritssh
[04:58] <bean|EndersGame> jrib, kk.
[04:58] <jewbilee> yes
[04:58] <jewbilee> I get that error
[04:58] <MasterShrek> hmm
[04:58] <MasterShrek> and u did a sudo chmod 777 /usr/bin/ritssh
[04:58] <usr13> whol, Leave a space after play
[04:58] <jewbilee> ian@ian-laptop:/usr/bin$ ritssh
[04:58] <jewbilee> bash: /bin/ritssh: No such file or directory
[04:58] <heguru> choke: you fildered it, just run lsci and then lsusb and pastebin the whole output
[04:58] <bulmer> Calicoo: take a look at /etc/network/interfaces and see if this is it
[04:58] <Wolf23> heguru:  thanx, but i have installed virtualbox, and i want to configure usb and sound
[04:59] <razer> Nvidia says to use 96.43.xx for geforce 2, should I use that or the x.org thing?
[04:59] <jewbilee> yea, i have chmodded it
[04:59] <who1> sure
[04:59] <usr13> whol, Did it play?
[04:59] <MasterShrek> ls -l /usr/bin/ritssh     <-- jewbilee give me the output of that
[04:59] <annaimkonki> any brute forcing/hacking software for linux...
[04:59] <heguru> Wolf23: never used Vbox
[04:59] <genii> jewbilee: If you are already in the /usr/bin   use instead ./<filaname>
[04:59] <choke> heguru, what is the command of lsusb?
[04:59] <jewbilee> ian@ian-laptop:/usr/bin$ ritssh
[04:59] <jewbilee> bash: /bin/ritssh: No such file or directory
[04:59] <MasterShrek> annaimkonki, this is not the place to ask that
[04:59] <bean|EndersGame> !pastebin
[04:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <genii> bah typos. But you get the idea
[04:59] <heguru> choke: just run lsusb
[04:59] <jewbilee> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2007-10-10 22:41 /usr/bin/ritssh
[04:59] <jrib> jewbilee: do 'hash -r'
[05:00] <Wolf23> heguru:  no probem (:
[05:00] <choke> ok
[05:00] <jewbilee> sorry, thats what it printed
[05:00] <who1> The program 'play' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[05:00] <who1> sudo apt-get install sox
[05:00] <who1> Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled
[05:00] <who1> bash: play: command not found
[05:00] <MasterShrek> jewbilee, it should work just fine, i have a few ssh scripts in there and they work just fine
[05:00] <who1> this is the error i get
[05:00] <razer> Is the x.org driver better than the nvidia one?
[05:00] <usr13> who1, Do as it suggests.
[05:00] <who1> ok
[05:00] <genii> jewbilee: It's looking in /bin and not /usr/bin since you are not prefacing the name with ./
[05:00] <jewbilee> oh well hash -r worked
[05:00] <heguru> who1: alsaplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[05:00] <Calicoo> bulmer: I believe so, yes. If I were to do a clean install would it be possible to overwrite the original file and be up and running?
[05:01] <Flannel> razer: You want nvidia-glx-legacy, which is in the repositories.
[05:01] <choke> heguru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40234/
[05:01] <jewbilee> but now im getting an "ssh option required an arugment -- l"  but im providing all the rest of the info
[05:01] <Wolf23> heguru:  anyway do u know how burn .wmv to vcd movie?
[05:01] <heguru> choke: ah! i need the output of BOTH lspci and lsub, lsusb is here, now pasetbin lspci
[05:01] <annaimkonki> MasterShrek: where should i go then???
[05:01] <razer> Flannel: I found the nvidia legacy on nvidia's site and the x.org legacy in add/remove, which is better?
[05:01] <bean|EndersGame> Jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40235/
[05:01] <bulmer> Calicoo:  yeah you can always replace that file
[05:02] <Flannel> razer: The one in the repository.
[05:02] <PlanetaryNapkin> If I may: I'm having trouble getting an mp3 player [Cowon iAudio 7]  to mount. Error is as follows: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40231/
[05:02] <razer> Flannel: Does add/remove mean the repository?
[05:02] <heguru> Wolf23: you can use mencoder for that, follow this guide: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-vcd-dvd.html
[05:02] <Flannel> razer: yes
[05:02] <razer> Flannel: So the x.org is actually better than the nvidia made one?
[05:02] <jrib> bean|EndersGame: dapper does not have that package
[05:02] <who1> bash: alsaplay: command not found
[05:02] <Flannel> razer: You're using feisty, right?
[05:02] <MasterShrek> annaimkonki, anywhere but here, and for your info, to be a hacker, you write programs yourself, if you use other peoples software your just a script kiddie, and thats incredibly lame
[05:02] <razer> .04
[05:03] <bean|EndersGame> jrib>> how do I add it?
[05:03] <Flannel> razer: 7.04?
[05:03] <razer> yes
[05:03] <heguru> who1: ah! its aplay
[05:03] <krammer> how do i get back to help ? i was being help for xgl
[05:03] <Calicoo> bulmer: Thanks for the help.
[05:03] <choke> heguru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40236/
[05:03] <Flannel> razer: The one in the repository *is* an nvidia one.  And, you don't need to use add/remove, use System > Admin > Restricted Devices Manager
[05:03] <razer> Flannel: Its strange that x.org makes a better drive for linux than nvidia.
[05:03] <jstarcher> how do I save iptables so the changes I made are there when I reboot?
[05:03] <who1> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
[05:03] <bulmer> Calicoo no sweat
[05:03] <who1> but i can't hear any sound
[05:03] <razer> Flannel: Ok I can just check that box under restricted.
[05:04] <usr13> who1, DId you do as I told you?
[05:04] <Flannel> razer: yeah, that'll grab the right one automatically.
[05:04] <who1> yes
[05:04] <jrib> bean|EndersGame: dapper does not have that package, you don't add it.  You probably want something else (hint: apt-cache search linux headers)
[05:04] <krammer> how do i getg back to help for 3d configurating?
[05:04] <usr13> who1, sudo apt-get install sox
[05:04] <bulmer> jstarcher: is there like iptables-save? type on the terminal iptables and press tab twice
[05:04] <usr13> ?
[05:04] <razer> Flannel: But will it know to do the legacy one?
[05:04] <who1> did that alredy
[05:04] <krammer> i was just in other server channel but forget
[05:04] <heguru> choke: you only have one sound card on your machine
[05:04] <jewbilee> Alright, I've got this command stored in /usr/bin/ritssh "ssh -X -C -l" but when I execute it with "ritssh (MYUSERNAME) (REMOTE SERVER NAME)" i get a requires argument error but if i change ritssh to have "ssh -X -C -l (MYUSERNAME) (REMOTE SERVER NAME)" then it works...
[05:04] <razer> Flannel: It will download it if I just check the enable box?
[05:04] <jewbilee> But i dont want it to be hardcoded like that, what do i do
[05:04] <usr13> whol,  play /usr/share/sounds/*
[05:05] <choke> really? how can i install?
[05:05] <genii> krammer: Do you mean the compiz configuration manager?
[05:05] <razer> Flannel: It didn't work. I got an error.
[05:05] <who1> usr13, check this out:  Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
[05:05] <krammer> yes
[05:05] <krammer> thanks
[05:05] <jstarcher> bulmer, yes
[05:05] <bean|EndersGame> jrib, Sorry I stil don't understand what I need to do. =/
[05:05] <usr13> who1, So, can you hear it play?
[05:05] <who1> but i cant hear ny sound now
[05:05] <who1> no
[05:05] <genii> krammer:run command ccsm
[05:05] <heguru> choke: its not in your machine. You have only one card or the other is already disabled in bios
[05:05] <usr13> Is your volume turned up?
[05:05] <jrib> bean|EndersGame: what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:05] <krammer> no here
[05:05] <who1> yes, fully
[05:05] <choke> heguru, i disabled in bios i think
[05:06] <bean|EndersGame> jrib I'm updating my video card drivers
[05:06] <krammer> i was getting help for the last hour andtold me to reboot and come back
[05:06] <star1> Hey everyone, I have a Logitech USB Headset, and I was wondering if there was a way to get Ubuntu to automatically switch to using it as the sound device for speakers and mic when I plug it in, and switch back when I unplug it.  Any help? (auto-detect doesn't do it for whatever reason)
[05:06] <choke> heguru, so, do you know how can i install this audio card?
[05:06] <choke> heguru, did you saw if is 7.1?
[05:06] <krammer> cofiguring for xgl
[05:06] <who1> i could hear the sound wen i gave : play/usr/share/sounds/*
[05:06] <genii> krammer: I'm in KDE right now and likely you need to know where it is in Gnome, someone else may remember
[05:06] <who1> i could hear the sound wen i gave : play/usr/share/sounds/*
[05:06] <usr13> whol, Right-click the sound icon ->  Open Volume Control
[05:07] <lee__> hello, is there a way to dide uncesar icons or stuf we simply don't use that often?
[05:07] <who1> yes,then
[05:07] <genii> krammer: You can also ask in channel #ubuntu-effects
[05:07] <lee__> grr
[05:07] <krammer> ok
[05:07] <jrib> bean|EndersGame: what is wrong with the version in the repos?
[05:07] <lee__> a way to hied the icons
[05:07] <usr13> whol, Turn up "Headphone" control
[05:07] <bean|EndersGame> jrib, I'm updating my VIA graphics drivers from the crap version to the 3d version so I can install feisty
[05:07] <krammer> nobody inthere
[05:07] <lee__> grrrrrr sorry fells i can't type worht beans lol
[05:07] <razer> Error: nvidia-glx: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should (text cuts off) What should I do???
[05:07] <usr13> whol,  play /usr/share/sounds/*
[05:07] <MasterShrek> lee__, what icons? in you gnome panel menu?
[05:08] <heguru> choke: i don't know if its 7.1 or not
[05:08] <who1> wer is de headphone control?
[05:08] <lee__> eh pannel menues
[05:08] <jstarcher> bulmer, it does have iptables-save, what do I do?
[05:08] <lee__> oh hi master shrek
[05:08] <usr13> whol, Right-click the sound icon ->  Open Volume Control
[05:08] <choke> heguru, ok! so how can i install it?
[05:08] <bean|EndersGame> jrib>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome?highlight=%28openchrome%29#head-61015b8de079166a76899b391e1dca3f843fa11d
[05:08] <who1> yes
[05:08] <MasterShrek> lee__, right click the menu and click "Edit Menus" and uncheck the ones you dont want to show up
[05:08] <usr13> whol, Right-click the sound icon and choose  " Open Volume Control"
[05:08] <bulmer> jstarcher: man iptables-save
[05:08] <heguru> choke: its already installed, the driver is loaded
[05:08] <bean|EndersGame> jrib> I plan on getting compiz up and running after I get my vid card strait
[05:08] <fdds> ck
[05:09] <choke> so why i can hear?!
[05:09] <usr13> whol, Turn up "Headphone" control
[05:09] <who1> i did that
[05:09] <jrib> bean|EndersGame: why not install just install feisty?
[05:09] <krammer> where do i go for 3d configuration for my desktop
[05:09] <heguru> choke: type: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[05:09] <usr13> whol,  play /usr/share/sounds/*
[05:09] <zero-1> Anyone from the UK online?
[05:09] <lee__> eh i don't have that feature?
[05:09] <bean|EndersGame> jrib> I can't till I upgrade my drivers
[05:09] <who1> it gives some noise
[05:09] <who1> i can hear that
[05:09] <jstarcher> bulmer, I know what it does but do I save the output to somewhere?
[05:09] <choke> heguru, i installed amarok and the music is playing but i am not listening
[05:09] <MasterShrek> lee__, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:09] <lee__>  wait never mind i see it lol
[05:09] <acidchild> hey
[05:09] <who1> but not ny music files
[05:09] <MasterShrek> ok lee__ :)
[05:10] <jrib> bean|EndersGame: are you doing a fresh feisty install?
[05:10] <heguru> choke: can you run: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[05:10] <bulmer> jstarcher: man iptables-save    should give you the options where to save
[05:10] <lee__> i have to click on the ...Gutsy
[05:10] <who1> sorry
[05:10] <bean|EndersGame> jrib, yeah off the live cd
[05:10] <usr13> whol,  MP3s?  Where are your MP3s?
[05:10] <genii> krammer: try alt-f2  then put in: ccsm  then see if it runs
[05:10] <choke> heguru, yes
[05:10] <heguru> choke: do you hear sound?
[05:10] <who1> 1 sec, ill pastebin the file errors
[05:10] <jewbilee> is there any way to permanently store an alias?
[05:10] <choke> no
[05:10] <usr13> whol, What directory do you have the mp3 files in
[05:11] <who1> its on my usb
[05:11] <heguru> choke: are your speakers connected? can you try connecting them to headphones jack instead of speaker out
[05:11] <choke> do you want to !pastbin?
[05:11] <jrib> bean|EndersGame: use the alternate cd to install and then resolve the graphics card issues if there are any
[05:11] <jstarcher> bulmer, no, I can save it to a file though
[05:11] <who1> as well as on my desktop folder
[05:11] <jstarcher> bulmer, but it doesn't mean it will use that file on reboot unless i tell iut to
[05:11] <usr13> whol, play  Desktop/*.mp3
[05:11] <choke> heguru, i will check for the 5ve time hehe
[05:12] <who1> 1 sec
[05:12] <bean|EndersGame> jrib, thats what I'm trying to do now, I'm using edgy right now to talk to you. and I'm trying to resolve my graphics card issuer
[05:12] <bean|EndersGame> issue*
[05:12] <bulmer> jstarcher: no?  read the man page
[05:12] <usr13> who1, What is the name of the folder?
[05:12] <razer> It says my nvidia package is all messed up now and I have to use the synaptic manager to correct the problem...
[05:12] <face> I need help
[05:12] <who1> its xyz
[05:12] <face> was what that file i edited to change the boot
[05:12] <usr13> face, I do too!  :)
[05:12] <Kyokuz> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a dell xps with raid and ubuntu is seeing two separate drives not the raid, anything i can do to make it see the array?
[05:13] <usr13> face, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:13] <who1> huh?
[05:13] <face> yeah
[05:13] <face> i changed it so windows is my default
[05:13] <face> then i upgraded
[05:13] <usr13> who1, Did it play?
[05:13] <lee__> that was a really big help lol....now i don't have all the clutter lol
[05:13] <face> now windows option is gone
[05:13] <jstarcher> bulmer, i have many times. i know what it does
[05:13] <jrib> bean|EndersGame: what you do now on edgy does not affect your fresh feistf install.  And you posted a *dapper* sources, not an edgy one
[05:13] <jstarcher> bulmer, running iptables-save is not like hitting the save button in openoffice
[05:14] <cereal_killer> i'm having a problem packaging up my own .deb can someone help please?
[05:14] <jstarcher> bulmer, iptables-save just dumps an output the screen and nothing more
[05:14] <bean|EndersGame> jrib, sorry I didn't mean edgy
[05:14] <who1> no
[05:14] <razer> Is there a quick way to set Ubuntu back to the its default packages?
[05:14] <jshriver> greetings
[05:14] <usr13> whol, apt-get install mpg123
[05:14] <heguru> jewbilee: add them to /etc/bash.basrc
[05:14] <bulmer> jstarcher: hand on let me check the man pages
[05:14] <jshriver> Is there an API for capturing input from a sound card?
[05:14] <krammer> how do i get the login screen so i can try xgl session?
[05:14] <bean|EndersGame> jrib, was having some confusion over the nick names earlier. =p
[05:14] <jshriver> didnt know if alsa had C/C++ bindings at the hardware level.
[05:15] <jrib> bean|EndersGame: still, you should use the alternate cd to install feisty and then resolve the graphics card issues if there are any
[05:15] <choke> heguru, connect 100%
[05:15] <usr13> razer, No, why ?
[05:15] <cereal_killer> anyone good at packing .debs here?
[05:15] <choke> heguru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40237/
[05:15] <heguru> choke: run alsamixer and make sure master and pcm are high
[05:15] <jrib> !anyone | cereal_killer
[05:15] <ubotu> cereal_killer: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:15] <razer> usr13: because I tried to install the current nvidia driver instad of the legacy one by mistake and now I can't uninstall it because ubuntu is confused and so am I.
[05:15] <who1> it gives the general info abt the song and  Time: 01:22.01 [00:00.00]  of 00:00.00 (  0.0%) Output Buffer:   3.62M
[05:15] <bean|EndersGame> jrib, Okay I'll go try that now
[05:16] <cereal_killer> ubotu: ok
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <twoshadetod> i know this is reverse but anyone know the centos version of our aptitude?
[05:16] <who1> but i can hear no sound at all
[05:16] <twoshadetod> if one exists for the cmd
[05:16] <krammer> how can i get the log in session for xgl at bootup??
[05:16] <razer> usr13: it said That I have to use the synaptic manger to fix the problem, but I have no idea what to remove.
[05:16] <razer> usr13: It is a confused package state.
[05:16] <usr13> razer, apt-get -f install
[05:16] <lee__> oh there is one thing mastershreck ho do i get the sytem to see 128 megs on the video card, where do i go to edit the script if it can be edited?
[05:16] <razer> usr13: I need to uninstall, what will that do?
[05:16] <choke> heguru, 81<master>81 | 81<pcm>81
[05:17] <heguru> choke: are you on kde?
[05:17] <usr13> razer, sudo apt-get -f install
[05:17] <krammer> whatdo u want o remove usr13
[05:17] <lee__> or should I bother when gutsy is around the corner lol
[05:17] <genii> razer: I'd suggest go to "It didn't work" part at bottom here and follow step to restore restricted-manager https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[05:17] <jrib> who1: try 'aplay' instead
[05:17] <choke> heguru, but "master" is red bold
[05:17] <choke> heguru, kde?
[05:17] <who1> ok
[05:17] <cereal_killer> when i pack build my deb everything goes fine but there should be files under DEBIAN/usr and others so the file heirachy is not being created and therefore i'm basically creating an empty .deb
[05:17] <heguru> choke: are you using KDE or GNOME
[05:17] <Mixx> i'm having some weird stability problems with the live cd and an on-disk installation of feisty.  windows stability tests and memtest all check out - is there a popular stability test for linux i could try?
[05:18] <usr13> whol, play  Desktop/*.mp3
[05:18] <Kyokuz> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a dell xps with raid and ubuntu is seeing two separate drives not the raid, anything i can do to make it see the array for install?
[05:18] <choke> heguru, i think is GNOME
[05:18] <who1> it says: Playing raw data 'Desktop/03 Madonna - Sorry.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
[05:18] <heguru> choke: did you change your speakers to connect to headphone jack instead of speaker out?
[05:18] <who1> but i can't hear ny music
[05:18] <genii> Mixx: Is this by any chance an Asus p5k se motherboard?
[05:18] <usr13> whol, Can you hear it play?
[05:19] <lee__> ?
[05:19] <who1> no, i can't
[05:19] <jrib> cereal_killer: you need to host your source package somewhere and link to it.  You should probably ask in #ubuntu-motu
[05:19] <krammer> how can i get to compiz help?
[05:19] <usr13> who1, Ctrl c  to stop it.
[05:19] <who1> ok
[05:19] <cereal_killer> jrib: motu?
[05:19] <Mixx> genii it's an ASUS A8N32 SLI Deluxe
[05:19] <lee__> eh not me and my cards working fine on all 8 channels
[05:19] <usr13> whol, mpg123  Desktop/*.mp3
[05:19] <jrib> !motu > cereal_killer (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:19] <cereal_killer> Mixx: what does that stand for
[05:19] <choke> heguru, no i will do that to test
[05:19] <who1> 1 sec
[05:19] <lee__> i don't think the irc sends media lol
[05:20] <Mixx> cereal_killer it's an Athlon X2 64 bit board - not sure what it stands for
[05:20] <who1> MPEG 1.0 layer III, 192 kbits/s, 44100 Hz stereo
[05:20] <who1> [../../../src/audio.c:264]  error: No supported rate found!
[05:20] <lee__> ooooo
[05:20] <who1> wat do i do?
[05:20] <lee__> you got  64 bit power
[05:20] <lee__> load the 64 bit version of fiesty and have at it lol
[05:20] <genii> Mixx: Ah, OK. If it uses Marvell chipset you may find driver source code on the mb cdrom to compile. this was the case with my p5k se, which cured sporadic lockups
[05:20] <usr13> who1,  Try a different mp3 file.
[05:20] <Wolf23> hm..
[05:20] <TehUni> is gutsy on schedule for rc1 release tomorrow?
[05:20] <bulmer> jstarcher: you also have to add an entry into /etc/init.d  for the iptables
[05:20] <who1> ok
[05:20] <Neodudeman> Ok. So I've decided I'm just going to delete ubuntu, and reinstall
[05:20] <Neodudeman> cause this is getting rediculous
[05:21] <Wolf23> can anyone help me with mancoder? thanx
[05:21] <usr13> who1,  Sounds like there is a problem with that particular file.  The first one.
[05:21] <lee__> isnt sure weather or not his dell is 64 bit or not
[05:21] <beanage> jrib, This is bean | endersgame
[05:21] <Mixx> genii - thanks - it does use marvell - any source on the web for how to install correctly?
[05:21] <who1> ok, trying with another file
[05:21] <beanage> jrib, your cpu does not support long mode. use a 32bit distrobution
[05:22] <lee__> it said it could run windows 64 bit
[05:22] <eon_> sup bitches
[05:22] <who1> nope
[05:22] <eon_> why is firefox and flash locking my browser
[05:22] <eon_> on several machines
[05:22] <jaebird> anyone using empathy after today's round of gutsy updates?
[05:22] <who1> can't hear any sound there either
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | eon_
[05:22] <ubotu> eon_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:22] <lee__> empathy?
[05:22] <jaebird> gtalk doesn't want to connect
[05:22] <genii> Mixx: I could not find much for it :( I basically just installed the build-essential package, linux-headers for my kernel and then copied the source to my home dir and built it fairly painlessly
[05:23] <jrib> beanage: use the 32bit alternate cd
[05:23] <jaebird> lee__: IM app for gnome
[05:23] <usr13> who1, Errors?:
[05:23] <beanage> jrib, thats what you ment by alternate cd
[05:23] <eon_> are there families that use this channel? that would be sad sight
[05:23] <razer> So the XFree86 is the same driver at the nvidia site?
[05:23] <genii> Mixx: The sources supplied there are redhat-centric
[05:23] <LinuxJuggalo> eon_: that is a bug in flash
[05:23] <lee__> eh not loaded
[05:23] <jrib> beanage: the alternate cd is *not* the 64bit live cd
[05:23] <who1> no errors, guess its not communicating with the sound card......:-(
[05:23] <wastrel> hi
[05:24] <jaebird> was working yesterday, not sure if it is google or me!
[05:24] <jonshepherd> Howdy Gents, is there a channel for help with wireless. I can't get my card installed, )actually I am new to Linux(. I have went to the Site and am following the directions, I have installed ndiswrapper and all the compoonets for that. I just don't know how to unpack the Windows driver the Wifi Card
[05:24] <LinuxJuggalo> !flash | eon_
[05:24] <ubotu> eon_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:24] <Mixx> genii - ok thanks - i've found some posts on ubuntuforums about it - i'll check it out
[05:24] <Dan_L> Hey folks, does anybody have any experience dealing with laptops with ubuntu?
[05:24] <Dan_L> I've got  a n000b question
[05:24] <krammer> how can i get the login session for xgl?
[05:24] <Dan_L> big time
[05:24] <jrib> Dan_L: best to just ask the channel your next question and see if anyone knows the answer
[05:25] <lee__> to install falsh is easy..go intot he add and remove and then select all
[05:25] <lee__> and then key in flash
[05:25] <ubuntu_> hi
[05:25] <genii> Mixx: Best luck
[05:25] <who1> no errors, guess its not communicating with the sound card......:-(
[05:25] <Dan_L> Alright, here's how much I suck:  I'm going to buy a crappy, cut rate laptop from new egg or something.  It's going to have vista - which I hate -
[05:25] <lee__> bada booom bada bing boda bam you have flash
[05:25] <Dan_L> so I figure I'll dual boot it with something.
[05:25] <razer> I'm confused about the difference in the xFree86 driver and the Nvidia supplied driver.
[05:25] <jrib> Dan_L: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy
[05:25] <kahrytan> Dan_L,  or get refund for Vista...
[05:26] <razer> XFree86 is third party, but how do they compare?
[05:26] <choke> heguru, no
[05:26] <LinuxJuggalo> !traffic | Dan_L
[05:26] <ubotu> Dan_L: NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[05:26] <choke> heguru, maybe is codecs?
[05:26] <usr13> who1, rhythmbox Desktop/*.mp3
[05:26] <kahrytan> Dan_L, on other hand, you could just buy dell ubuntu laptop
[05:26] <heguru> choke: no
[05:26] <krammer> how can i get the login session for xgl?
[05:26] <UbuntuAdmin> whatzzup
[05:26] <lee__> lol
[05:26] <razer> Can anyone explain the difference between the X.org driver and the one Nvidia supplies?
[05:26] <LinuxJuggalo> Dan_L: what kind of laptop is it?
[05:26] <usr13> whol, DO you still have "Headphones" turned up?
[05:27] <lee__> has a dell demension 5150...it loves liux..hates windows..gee..i wonder why
[05:27] <who1> hey som1, check this error out:, wen i say play /usr/share/sounds/*
[05:27] <Dan_L> Ok, so:  Are they any particular brand names that do better with Ubuntu than others?  |   LinuxJuggalo:  I'm still picking one out.  Better to ask the experts first:)
[05:27] <Mixx> genii - did you have to do that in feisty or just edgy?  i'm reading it was fixed in 704
[05:27] <choke> i have the master at maximo
[05:27] <who1> hey som1, check this error out:, wen i say play /usr/share/sounds/*: http://www.pastebin.org/4574
[05:27] <who1> hey som1, check this error out:, wen i say play /usr/share/sounds/*: http://www.pastebin.org/4574
[05:27] <kahrytan> Dan_L, Inspiron Notebook 1420 N  is being sold with Ubuntu. System76 has laptops with Ubuntu too.
[05:27] <who1> hey, check this error out:, wen i say play /usr/share/sounds/*: http://www.pastebin.org/4574
[05:27] <jrib> !laptop > Dan_L (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:28] <jrib> !repeat | who1
[05:28] <ubotu> who1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:28] <LinuxJuggalo> Dan_L: here is a list of laptops that have been tested with ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[05:28] <genii> Mixx: Feisty
[05:28] <who1> SORRY
[05:28] <IdleOne> what is the command to restart nautilus?
[05:28] <lee__> one thing I hope they add to gutsy is the drivers  for ati, cause Iam wiping everything and then reloading it
[05:28] <choke> heguru, i have the master at max
[05:28] <usr13> whol, But it plays the sound files, right?
[05:28] <heguru> choke: run: sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[05:28] <Dan_L> Excellent.  You guys are a _huge_ help.  I'm new to linux.  I'm relatively slick with a computer though.
[05:28] <heguru> choke: and check again
[05:28] <jonshepherd> No one can help me with my Wireless card install? I just need thd drivers installed. Actually, I just need to unpack the windows driver, I don't how to do that.
[05:29] <jrib> IdleOne: pkill nautilus     it should respawn by default
[05:29] <who1> sound files as in?
[05:29] <krammer> how can i get the login session for xgl?
[05:29] <IdleOne> jrib: ty
[05:29] <genii> Mixx: And in my Gutsy as well
[05:29] <eon_> so anyone else having problems with firefox and flash?
[05:29] <who1> did u check out the error?
[05:29] <eon_> specifically youtube
[05:29] <usr13> whol,  play /usr/share/sounds/*.wav
[05:29] <ch3ckm8e> jonshepard go look at the madwifi tutorial it should give you a good idea on how to do a wlan card install
[05:29] <DShepherd> where can i find powerpc image of 7.04?
[05:29] <lee__> i have a problem..Ihave this habit of wanting to defrag my system can any one help?
[05:29] <usr13> who1, Did it play the files?  Did you hear the sound?
[05:29] <who1> its playing smoothly
[05:29] <usr13> Yes or no?
[05:29] <stdin> who1: that's because you told it to play a directory, and a directory is not a sound file
[05:29] <ch3ckm8e> lee_ you dont have to defrag on linux
[05:30] <Kyokuz> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a dell xps with raid and ubuntu is seeing two separate drives not the raid, anything i can do to make it see the array for install?
[05:30] <usr13> OK.  It's working!
[05:30] <who1> but can't hear any sound
[05:30] <lee__> needs defrag anonymouse
[05:30] <LinuxJuggalo> Dan_L: you can always come here and ask whatever questions you need answered about ubuntu ;)
[05:30] <omegaweopon> I feel like the grandest idiot on the face of the earth.  Never once during my use of windows did I contract a virus, and here in linux, (which aparently isnt that vulnerable) I seem to have caught one.  This PDF file keeps wanting to download every five minutes on firefox.  Any suggestions?
[05:30] <razer> Is the x.org driver better than the nvidia made one???
[05:30] <who1> i gave .wav
[05:30] <genii> lee__: Due to the way ext works defrag is unneccesary
[05:30] <Frogzoo> lee__: create yourself a fat filesystem, and defrag that once a week as therapy
[05:30] <who1> its playing, but no sound
[05:30] <lee__> is it true taht unbuntu never needs defragging?
[05:30] <jonshepherd> You don't get it. It tells me how to install it, Ch3ckm8e. I just don't know how to unpack it in the termnal
[05:30] <Frogzoo> lee__: correct
[05:30] <genii> lee__: Yes.
[05:30] <lee__> I can't liux wont allow it lol
[05:30] <who1> is it a problem with the sound card???
[05:30] <jonshepherd> Hey DShepherd. We may be related
[05:30] <usr13> who1,  Never mind.  It's working now.
[05:31] <krammer> how can i get the login session for xgl?
[05:31] <who1> but i cant hear any music
[05:31] <choke> heguru, show Password: and i cant right
[05:31] <razer> I'm about to install the driver supplied by nvidia unless somebody tells me to use the x.org one....
[05:31] <usr13> who1, YOu have no problem with the sound card.  It is playing. Right?
[05:31] <choke> heguru, this is so weird
[05:31] <ch3ckm8e> jonshepard what type of archive are you trying to unpack
[05:31] <heguru> choke: type your password
[05:31] <ch3ckm8e> jonshepard: if its a tar.gz use tar -xzf if its a bz u will have to use bunzip
[05:31] <who1> yes, but no sound from speakers??????????????????
[05:31] <usr13> whol, I thought you just told me you DID hear the music?
[05:31] <DShepherd> jonshepherd, maybe
[05:31] <jonshepherd> Its' the windows driver for the WLan Card
[05:31] <usr13> who1, Are speakers plugged in?
[05:31] <who1> yes
[05:31] <DShepherd> jonshepherd, people keep spelling your name wrongly though
[05:31] <choke> heguru, i cant right
[05:32] <usr13> who1, Are they plugged into power transformer?
[05:32] <choke> heguru, i right but it doesnt show
[05:32] <LinuxJuggalo> Dan_L: before you switch to Linux take the time to read this first: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:32] <lee__> iam aslo suffering from tha lack of crash menues
[05:32] <Iceshadow> Have any of you had any experience integrating an Ubuntu workstation into an Active Directory?
[05:32] <heguru> choke: why not? password doesn't show
[05:32] <who1> the play ......share/sounds/* watever played som noise
[05:32] <jonshepherd> Funny too, because it's right in fron them DShep
[05:32] <heguru> choke: just type it and press enter
[05:32] <who1> the speakers r plugged in
[05:32] <usr13> whol, Are they plugged into the right port on your sound card? (Try another one).
[05:32] <lee__> but with this when a program carshes..it actually stops when you tell it to
[05:32] <who1> i hav visa too, and it plays like a charm
[05:32] <DShepherd> jonshepherd, yip
[05:32] <ch3ckm8e> jonshepard: go find a tut on ndswrapper
[05:32] <who1> i hav vista too, and it plays like a charm
[05:32] <choke> heguru, believe me man i type but he doesnt show
[05:32] <lee__> is perpelxed
[05:32] <heguru> Iceshadow: it works smooth using samba AD join
[05:32] <slapfaceware> what do you guys think about HP laptops
[05:33] <heguru> choke: password will NOT appear, but it will work, just TYPE and press and ENTER
[05:33] <who1> the speakers are perfect
[05:33] <lee__> Oh I did make one fatal mistake
[05:33] <ch3ckm8e> slapfaceware: Hp laptops are pretty nice check out the dv9035
[05:33] <Frogzoo> !sound | who1
[05:33] <ubotu> who1: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:33] <choke> lol
[05:33] <choke> heguru, ok
[05:33] <lee__> I was trying to use a second hard drive
[05:33] <genii> slapfaceware: Most of the pavillion hardware is linux-friendly
[05:33] <ch3ckm8e> slapfaceware: dont ever buy sony or stinkpads (ibm(
[05:33] <ch3ckm8e> i gave away my sony
[05:33] <razer> Anyone have a comment on the x.org drivers vs. the nvidia supplied drivers?
[05:33] <slapfaceware> ch3ckm8e, whats wrong with sinkpad
[05:33] <who1> i enabled the alsa mixer
[05:34] <lee__> well, to make a longstory short I should have said no to chagning the master boot directory with the main drive in
[05:34] <slapfaceware> ch3ckm8e, i got dv6424, what do you think, is it nice?
[05:34] <Frogzoo> lee__: linux has no problems with multiple hard drives - the problem is the ubuntu installer
[05:34] <who1> i checked out the website a 10000000000 times
[05:34] <who1> but in vain
[05:34] <Iceshadow> heguru: is it fairly complex to get going? we are on an AD network of around 7000 users, and the windows guys here seems to have things in good order on their end.
[05:34] <lee__> frogzoo i couldnt agree with you more on that
[05:34] <mindframe-> anyone know how to get readings from hard drive temperature sensors?
[05:34] <LinuxJuggalo> who1: try following the steps in this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[05:34] <usr13> who1,  Right Click on the speaker icon -> Open Volume Control
[05:34] <who1> 1 sec
[05:35] <jonshepherd> DShepherd: What?
[05:35] <jonshepherd> Interesting how many People in here, and it would seem that everyone is as clueless as I am
[05:35] <heguru> Iceshadow: what do you want to do?, configure ubuntu as a file/print server in AD? or use AD accounts to log in to ubuntu>?
[05:35] <who1> ok,then
[05:35] <eon_> so how come flash in fedora, suse, debian, centos, and gentoo does not crash firefox
[05:35] <eon_> if its a FLASH problem
[05:35] <choke> heguru, done and now
[05:35] <usr13> whol, Trun up "Headphones"  and "PCM"
[05:35] <DShepherd> jonshepherd, yip=yes=yup.. watever you prefer
[05:35] <Iceshadow> heguru: authenticate against AD and name registration
[05:35] <eon_> seems to me its an ubuntu bug
[05:35] <lee__> it was a mystery on how I got 6 partitions and then nothing was happening, wound up using windows to delte..um..the..installer..don't know the word..delte
[05:35] <heguru> choke: try playing something now
[05:35] <choke> heguru, k
[05:35] <who1> wat do i do?
[05:35] <usr13> whol,  play /usr/share/sounds/*.wav
[05:35] <Frogzoo> eon_: first configure flash cache to 10meg, & see if your crashes persist
[05:35] <lee__> oh and then I got out of disk error
[05:36] <heguru> Iceshadow: you can follow samba guide, everything required to do that comes with ubuntu
[05:36] <who1> yes, it says its playing but i can't hear any music
[05:36] <usr13> whol, DId you trun up "Headphones"  and "PCM"?
[05:36] <Iceshadow> heguru: will do. thanks.
[05:36] <heguru> Iceshadow: configuration can be a little tricky at times
[05:36] <ch3ckm8e> slapfaceware: im not aware of that model sorry
[05:36] <lee__> and that was off of an 80 gig hd
[05:36] <choke> heguru, nothing! :|
[05:36] <slapfaceware> ch3ckm8e, but what's wrong with sinkpad?
[05:36] <jonshepherd> This is what it tells me to do,m but I don't know how to do this. "Unpack the Windows driver by using the unzip, cabextract and/or unshield tools (run from the Terminal), and find the INF file (.INF or .inf extension) and the SYS file (.SYS or .sys extension). You may first need to install cabextract and unshield."
[05:36] <who1> yes, pcm is turned on
[05:36] <usr13> whol, Did you trun up volume controls labled: "Headphones"  and "PCM"?
[05:36] <who1> but i can't find headphones anywer
[05:37] <eon_> Frogzoo:  a quick google isnt showing me where to modify the flash cache size
[05:37] <choke> heguru, this is so weird i just want music, music...lol
[05:37] <eon_> where do i do that
[05:37] <usr13> whol, alsamixer
[05:37] <who1> shud i lock or unlock the channels ?
[05:38] <Frogzoo> eon_: right click in the flash player -> settings -> local storage = unlimited/10meg
[05:38] <lee__> hmm well for music lets see..I think winamp now has something in store for linux systems
[05:38] <Shrimpy_> hello, i just removed the network manager off the top panel. and i was wondering how i get it back
[05:38] <usr13> who1, Un-mute / turn up "Headphones"  and "PCM"
[05:38] <who1> yes,its on alsamixer
[05:38] <who1> it not on mute
[05:38] <heguru> choke: ok I know what your problem is, but lets see if we can fix it.
[05:38] <usr13> who1, Turn it up?
[05:38] <who1> yes
[05:38] <usr13> whol,  play /usr/share/sounds/*.wav
[05:39] <heguru> choke: type this command: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[05:39] <who1> still not hearing ny sound???????
[05:39] <usr13> whol, Any sound?
[05:39] <who1> it says its playing but no sound
[05:39] <lee__> check the propperties of you sound card and see waht its set for..try changing of to the second one and see waht happens...its under the edit mode thingy
[05:39] <tanner> whats the command for iptables to drop ALL packets from everyone?
[05:39] <jonshepherd> Okay, so it would seem that everyone is useless. This seems like a relatively easy process now, but I DON"T HOW TO UNZIP SOMETHING IN A TERMINSL> SOMEONE PLEASE HELP
[05:39] <usr13> who1, Did you try the other port on the sound card?
[05:39] <choke> heguru, do you want to !pastbin?
[05:39] <who1> which other port?
[05:39] <foxiness> can i install monodevelop "beta" on ubuntu?
[05:40] <heguru> jonshepherd: unzip filename.zip
[05:40] <lee__> hmm
[05:40] <lee__> thereis 2 ports
[05:40] <heguru> choke: no, in this file, there is a line options snd-intel8x0m index=-2
[05:40] <heguru> choke: do you see it?
[05:40] <Neodudeman> Yo yo, quick question: When installing Ubuntu with the alt boot disk for computers with less than 256, when you decide the partition size: Is that the size of the partition ubuntu will use, or the original drive size?
[05:40] <usr13> who1, ON the sound card, you will more than likely see 4 ports: Mic, Speakers, Headphones, Line
[05:40] <lee__> to the sound card IE mines HDA something and then the second one is sigmatell
[05:40] <who1> yes, everything is high....
[05:41] <Frogzoo> tanner: you set a default deny policy for every chain
[05:41] <m0m> monin'
[05:41] <who1> none is in mute
[05:41] <usr13> who1, Try Speaker  and if that doesn't work, try Headphone port.
[05:41] <lee__> eh I have to run HDA something to have all channels working
[05:41] <usr13> who1, Please!
[05:41] <Dr_willis> jonshepherd,  use the 'unzip' command for zip files.. or check out 'unp'
[05:41] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[05:41] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[05:41] <riotkittie> throwing temper tantrums and calling people useless because theyre not answering you fast enough is so not cool
[05:41] <tanner> Frogzoo: i forgot how, but i issued a command that blocked everyone, and the only way to get through is to add them via accept; im trying to figure out how to reverse this
[05:41] <usr13> who1, Try other sound card port.
[05:42] <lee__> ooo a rude person eh
[05:42] <genii> Dr_willis: Interesting. Did not know about unp
[05:42] <Dr_willis> genii,  :) thats why i mentioned it.. its overlooked.
[05:42] <lee__> hmm tahts a good way to get kicked
[05:42] <Iceshadow> jonshepherd: what type of file are you trying to unzip? is it a .zip, .tar, etc?
[05:42] <who1> i hav increased everything , but nothing is working, i still cant hear ny sound
[05:42] <lee__> and iggyed
[05:42] <the_padawan> hello all, i'm trying to get hold of the boost library uBlas, which is under the math/numeric category for boost. Is this packaged in the repositories? If so, under what name?
[05:42] <choke> heguru, yes
[05:42] <Iceshadow> jonshepherd: make sure you are specific about uncompressing archives.
[05:42] <heguru> choke: add #before that line
[05:42] <usr13> who1, Did you try other sound card port?
[05:42] <who1> ill try with oss mixer
[05:42] <who1> 1 sec
[05:42] <usr13> who1, Did you try other sound card port?
[05:42] <Frogzoo> tanner: you probly did something like 'iptables -P INPUT DROP
[05:43] <lee__> did you go into the mixers edit mode and change?
[05:43] <heguru> choke: so it becomes: #options
[05:43] <tanner> Frogzoo: looks right, how do i reverse it? =)
[05:43] <Shrimpy_> how do i get network manager back in my top panel, after i removed it?
[05:43] <heguru> choke: next Click at System -> Preferences -> Sounds
[05:43] <heguru> choke: click at the Sounds tab
[05:43] <choke> heguru, i put #options snd-intel8x0m index=-2 or #before snd-intel8x0m index=-2?
[05:44] <who1> yes, its still not playing any music????????????????
[05:44] <tronyx> how can I hide my IP address in irc?
[05:44] <Frogzoo> tanner: you probly did something like 'iptables -P INPUT ALLOW - of course, this opens everything up again
[05:44] <riotkittie> Shrimpy_: alt + f2 nm-applet
[05:44] <usr13> who1, Did you try other sound card port?
[05:44] <heguru> choke: #options
[05:44] <who1> yes
[05:44] <lee__> eh he has a bug
[05:44] <IdleOne>  /dns tronyx
[05:44] <Zasch> Hello. I'm going to be buying a new mp3 player soon...My budget is $200 for an 8GB flash player, and I'm concerned about battery life, but I'm also concerned about Ubuntu compatibility, and Google is often a little cryptic as to what works easily and what doesn't. Can anyone help out?
[05:44] <CreativeSoul> hey does anyone know about ubuntu for PPC?
[05:44] <Shrimpy_> riotkittie: it's already running. but i can't get it back in the panel. any clue?
[05:45] <tanner> Frogzoo: is that the default behavior?
[05:45] <tronyx> idleone, I want to hide it so that it isn't broadcast when i enter/leave channels, etc.
[05:45] <usr13> who1, But, yet, you can hear sound when you do  cat /dev/urandom > cat /dev/dsp  ?
[05:45] <Iceshadow> Zasch: what kind of players are you looking at?
[05:45] <who1> yes
[05:45] <lee__> zash get one that recharges when you lug it in to the usb port
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Gesh I find it hard to justfy $200 for a media player. :)
[05:45] <IdleOne> tronyx: yeah I am trying to remember what the !factoid is
[05:45] <Frogzoo> tanner: default iptables is allow all - easiest way to reset defaults 'sudo iptables -F'
[05:45] <CreativeSoul> I want to run ubuntu for my powerbook but it has an airport extreme card and I dont know if it wont work
[05:45] <the_padawan> hello all, i'm trying to get hold of the boost library uBlas, which is under the math/numeric category for boost. Is this packaged in the repositories? If so, under what name?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Get one that runs Linux! :)
[05:45] <Zasch> Iceshadow: I'm willing to look at anything, really
[05:45] <riotkittie> Shrimpy_: if it's running and you cant get it in panel, kill it and relaunch [sudo killall nm-applet && nm-applet]   ... i dont think there's a way other than killing it
[05:45] <choke> heguru, save and exit
[05:45] <who1> it somwat runs som weird things and a continous beep sound kind of a thing
[05:45] <lee__> heck go with a psp
[05:45] <heguru> choke: yes
[05:46] <choke> heguru, what do i put in sounds tab?
[05:46] <heguru> choke: then click at System -> Preferences -> Sound
[05:46] <Shrimpy_> riotkittie: haha thanks i figured it out. i took off the notice table thingy
[05:46] <lee__> its 140 and heck you can surf the net on wirelss to lol
[05:46] <heguru> choke: click at sounds tab
[05:46] <IdleOne> jrib: what is the factoid in ubotu  for getting a Vhost on freenode?
[05:46] <gogeta> for 200$ yea psp
[05:46] <wims_> how can i 'remove' my boot partition so to speak? I want to just use a directory in my root partition instead of keeping a separate boot partition
[05:46] <usr13> whol Not sure what to make of that...  From the output you posted on http://www.pastebin.org/4574  the files are playing without errors.  The sound must be going somewhere.
[05:46] <lee__> and vioew vids
[05:46] <heguru> choke: and uncheck "Enable software sound mixing (ESD)"
[05:46] <Iceshadow> Zasch: im my opinion i'd take a look on ebay and see if you can find an ipod at a decent price. i've had great luck with them in linux, and if you can get a good deal, i'd say that would be what I would do.
[05:46] <jrib> IdleOne: vhost?  you mean cloak?
[05:46] <gogeta> lee can get a psp and a good size memery stick for it
[05:47] <heguru> choke: reboot your machine, and test sound
[05:47] <gogeta> for 200$
[05:47] <Shrimpy_> riotkittie: thx anyways
[05:47] <Zasch> Iceshadow: I heard that iPods weren't compatible with Linux anymore?
[05:47] <lee__> verry true lol
[05:47] <IdleOne> jrib: yeah that was it
[05:47] <tanner> Frogzoo: doing a flush however it still denies access
[05:47] <IdleOne> !cloak | tronyx
[05:47] <ubotu> tronyx: Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[05:47] <lee__> and have 12 hours of music time
[05:47] <Iceshadow> Zasch: not sure about iPod Touch, but my video works just great.
[05:47] <Kyokuz> is there another partioner other than gparted, I am trying to configure dmraid but it's not seeing the raid device? any ideaS?
[05:47] <who1> i kno, but wer is it going
[05:47] <tronyx> thanks
[05:47] <Frogzoo> tanner: you play with nat?
[05:47] <IdleOne> tronyx: np ty jrib
[05:48] <tanner> Frogzoo: not that i recall
[05:48] <usr13> whol, Is the volume on the speakers turned up?
[05:48] <tanner> Frogzoo: i did play with route before, but i believe i reset everything
[05:48] <who1> my ubuntu is on an external hardisk
[05:48] <who1> yes, they are
[05:48] <Frogzoo> tanner: then it's a route/ip problem - not iptables 'sudo iptables -L -v -n' to see current ruleset
[05:48] <choke> heguru, done
[05:48] <choke> heguru, reboot
[05:48] <choke> brb
[05:48] <who1> ive been tryin for the past 2 months
[05:48] <lee__> hmm threres an intersting thaught
[05:49] <tronyx> idleone: it says to contact a network staffer to have an unaffiliated cloak turned on for me.  all i need to do is ask a freenode staffer?
[05:49] <who1> see, im just playing youtube, but no sound!!!
[05:49] <usr13> who1, So you are running Ubuntu from USB flash memory device?
[05:49] <IdleOne> tronyx: yup
[05:49] <IdleOne> !staff
[05:49] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[05:49] <lee__> eh I nealry laoded unbuntu onto my one gig memstick lol...stoped it though befor it ran out of space
[05:49] <IdleOne> tronyx: msg one of them and be nice and patient :)
[05:49] <MasterShrek> lee__, it would probably fit lol
[05:49] <tronyx> lol alright, thanks
[05:50] <who1> somthing like that,not sure
[05:50] <IdleOne> sorry nalioth
[05:50] <IdleOne> didnt mean to abuse it
[05:50] <who1> its iomega external harddrive something
[05:50] <lee__> mastershreck lol talk about going high teck lol..then All id need to do is use my 8o gig to store the programs
[05:50] <WhozURdaddy> /nickserve help
[05:50] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, how goes it
[05:50] <CreativeSoul> anyone know how to troubleshoot the ubuntu power pc edition?
[05:51] <nalioth> IdleOne: you can send all folks who want cloaks to #freenode or point out staff by nick.  !staff is for emergencies (just like !ops)
[05:51] <MasterShrek> decent Evanlec i compiled that kernel, but its having troubles mounting my root partition
[05:51] <Evanlec> lee__, i have ubuntu feisty (modified) on my 2gb usb pendrive
[05:51] <lee__> oooo idelone ..this thing keeps score
[05:51] <choke> heguru, nothing happens
[05:51] <choke> heguru, :(
[05:51] <IdleOne> nalioth: ok i'll remember that
[05:51] <heguru> choke: ah sorry then
[05:51] <lee__> cool evenlac
[05:51] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, really...so what does that mean? you didnt compile the right headers for your hard drive controler?
[05:51] <lee__> evanlec
[05:51] <IdleOne> lee__: I keep score for myself
[05:52] <lee__> I wish I could install FFXI on this thing
[05:52] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, apparently not...im workin on it
[05:52] <Evanlec> lee__, yea its pretty nifty, the modified version of it allows it to be persistent, so it runs like a normal ubuntu, rather than like a liveCD
[05:52] <gogeta> lee and im happy you cant
[05:52] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, u using SATA?
[05:52] <choke> heguru, and then
[05:52] <MasterShrek> yep
[05:52] <who1> usr13, u der?
[05:52] <gogeta> lee that game needs to bye bye
[05:52] <lee__> cool how come...?
[05:52] <eon_> Frogzoo: uppin the cache to unlimited in flash didnt fix the lockups
[05:52] <usr13> who1, ?
[05:52] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, u compiled in the SATA support right? ;p
[05:52] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i have to sata driver (sata_nv) built in
[05:52] <gogeta> lee forever
[05:52] <lee__> eh I have it for my ps2
[05:53] <tanner> Frogzoo: my route table looks fine :-\
[05:53] <gogeta> lee it sucks
[05:53] <ch3ckm8e> slapfaceware: actually they arent that bad :P i just like calling them stinkpads
[05:53] <ch3ckm8e> slapfaceware: also i like the "nipple" mouse :P
[05:53] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, okay just makin sure, figured u probly thot of that ;p
[05:53] <lee__> grrr wants the linux to run on my ps2
[05:53] <lee__> I have the files and all
[05:53] <who1> how do i get info about how the sound is working?
[05:53] <gogeta> lee waseted my money for the 360 ver and after hrs of installs and updates i was bord of it in a week
[05:53] <slapfaceware> ch3ckm8e, you mean the red dot mouse?
[05:53] <Iceshadow> slapfaceware: yes, "nipple" is generally not a bad thing to enjoy Oo
[05:53] <choke> heguru, :P
[05:53] <slapfaceware> ha
[05:53] <gogeta> lee you will need to ps2 linux kit or just buy a ps3
[05:53] <lee__> lol, me Iam a level 50 whm, eh wait this is another topic lol
[05:54] <lee__> I found Black Rhino
[05:54] <heguru> choke: i am out of ideas
[05:54] <lee__> but..can't figure out how to transferit it then I found a bunch of tarbals from and off of sonys sight
[05:55] <razer> I installed the nvidia driver and the windows still chache badly and I can't increase the resolution or hz!
[05:55] <rahul_> hey
[05:55] <rahul_> does anyone know about tv tunners and linux
[05:55] <MasterShrek> !tvtime
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <kksm> Greetings. I am looking for a link that lists the software installed with the Ubuntu/Xubuntu server installation CD. Could someone please show me one?
[05:55] <MasterShrek> !info tvtime
[05:55] <troubled> rahul_: :)
[05:55] <Frogzoo> tanner: post to pastebin output from 'ifconfig ; route -n ; sudo iptables -L -v -n'
[05:55] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 678 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[05:55] <who1> hey, check this out, i use the same thing but i don't kno much abt it: http://www.iomega.com/direct/products/detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=23942851&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=53223319&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=26890319&bmUID=1192074824401
[05:56] <lee__> ?
[05:56] <rahul_> hi troubled
[05:56] <who1> did u check it?
 hi
[05:56] <troubled> rahul_: sup
[05:57] <rahul_> i have a problem w/ linux and dual boot with xp
[05:57] <choke> heguru, so i #remove | #options snd-intel8x0m index=-2?
[05:57] <rahul_> xp pro (pirated)
[05:57] <heguru> choke: yes you can do that
[05:57] <gogeta> rahul?
[05:57] <tronyx> lol
[05:57] <Madpilot> rahul_, delete the XP install. Problem solved.
[05:57] <gogeta> rahul like we care
[05:57] <lee__> well this is cool on my msn space I can see and hear everything
[05:57] <Vimto> hello
[05:57] <m0m> XDDDD
[05:57] <rahul_> gogeta u care u know it
[05:57] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, u ever had any luck getting extra buttons working on a mouse in ubuntu?
[05:57] <gogeta> rahul where not m$
[05:57] <kksm> Greetings. I am looking for a link that lists the software installed with the Ubuntu/Xubuntu server installation CD. Could someone please show me one?
[05:58] <rahul_> what is M$
[05:58] <troubled> rahul_: ah sorry, thought you were the real rahul
[05:58] <rahul_> lol
[05:58] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, extra buttons as far as what? side buttons?
[05:58] <Negra> any moblock user in er to help?
[05:58] <m0m> rahul_ try grub_upadate
[05:58] <gogeta> rahul so issue
[05:58] <rahul_> im the real rahul
[05:58] <lee__> dell.com
[05:58] <wims_> how can i 'remove' my boot partition so to speak? I want to just use a directory in my root partition instead of keeping a separate boot partition
[05:58] <tanner> Frogzoo: http://pastebin.com/d543c048d
[05:58] <lee__> eh www.dell.com
[05:58] <rahul_> where do i get the grub_update
[05:58] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, yes
[05:58] <who1> nybod here?
[05:58] <rahul_> wims get gparted
[05:58] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i used to i think in gentoo, but i dont remember how to do it
[05:58] <IdleOne> gogeta: you been banned from here before havent you? chill out with the attitude we are here to help and if that means we need tio forward ppl to ##windows then we do it
[05:58] <m0m> from the root console rahul_
[05:58] <ryan52> When I run "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz" I get "cpu MHz         : 2400.000" even though I have a 3GHz processor. How do I change this setting so that its always 3GHz?
get gparted
[05:58] <choke> heguru, wc brb
[05:59] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, it seems to be a reall pain in the ass, i tried for a while but gave up
[05:59] <MasterShrek> ryan52, it will bump up to 3ghz if it needs it, else it scales itself down for powersaving and stuff
[05:59] <wims_> rahul_:  yeah i know that part, what i dont know is how to make ubuntu understand that my boot dir is not on its own partition anymore
[05:59] <rahul_> some1 plz help me with dual boot w/ linux and xp pro (pirated)
[05:59] <AJ--> any idea y my sounds wont work everytime i reboot my PC..
[05:59] <Vimto> i need some help over here
[05:59] <IdleOne> !dualboot | rahul_
[05:59] <tanner> ryan52: most likely all it is is your cpu scaling speed as its booting up, the kernel dumps the current cpu speed, which may not be your actual processors max speed
[05:59] <ubotu> rahul_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[05:59] <lee__> eh. whats the cmand for chechking your vids ram?
[05:59] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, thats only if he has a processor that supports cpu scaling...
[05:59] <who1> i need som help too
[05:59] <MasterShrek> rahul_, no need to tell everyone its pirated
[06:00] <ryan52> MasterShrek, Thanks
[06:00] <jewbilee> how do I make a program run on startup?
[06:00] <Vimto> im trying o install ubuntu on my laptop and i dont have any command to let it work
[06:00] <lee__> eh.. thats not good try reburning an iso cd
[06:00] <Vimto> could anybody give me any useful link?
[06:00] <rahul_> MasterShrek> idont care cuz it dont even work for me so hey pirated shit
[06:01] <MasterShrek> !ohmy
[06:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:01] <lee__> i have noticd at 4x th iso seems to record while at 52x its a mess
grub problem that im trying to fix dood
[06:01] <wims_> can i just copy my boot directory to my root partition, then change my menu.1st so it looks at my root partition instead at boots old partition ? Will ubuntu boot if i do tat ?
[06:01] <jewbilee> How do I make an application run on startup?
[06:01] <Vimto> lee_ im always burning at 52x
[06:01] <Vimto> do you mean i need to change that?
[06:01] <MasterShrek> Vimto, what exactly is the problem? there shoul be no "commands"
[06:01] <AJ--1> guys any idea y my sound wont work everytime i reboot my PC.. ????
[06:01] <WhozURdaddy> jewbilee: System >Preferences >Sessions
[06:01] <frostburn> jewbilee, system > pref > sessions
[06:02] <AJ--1> jewbilee: set it on sesion manager
[06:02] <rahul_> u can try that but i highly dout it will run
[06:02] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, lol i actually booted Vista today, wouldnt load my wireless card driver, searched on the manufacturer website, it said vista should work with no additonal drivers...i said okay well thats enough vista for 3 weeks, back to ubuntu ;p
[06:02] <rahul_> ok i have anohter problem ppl i got   a new sound card and i cant use
[06:02] <Vimto> mastershrek, i mean that when the system reboot the file from the cd i get into the DR-DOS
[06:02] <lee__> vimto, iam for real on this one...eeither that my roms dying ..but all I know is taht I went through 4 of8 cds then when I changed the speed it worked
[06:02] <rahul_> with linux wtf
[06:02] <Frogzoo> tanner: "Chain INPUT (policy DROP..." - you didn't do 'sudo iptables -F ?
[06:02] <Vimto> i dont know how to work with it
[06:02] <anas> geys ,,, help plllllzzz  ,,how can i open the internet dailup in ubuntu 7.04  ??
[06:03] <Frogzoo> tanner: flush might not change the policy, dunno, sudo iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT to be sure
GET DSL IF NOT CABLE
[06:03] <lee__> just give it a try and see if it works
[06:03] <Evanlec> anas, right click on your network applet (top right of screen)
[06:03] <MasterShrek> good to hear Evanlec, lol good ol vista
[06:03] <Vimto> lee__, alright i will try to burn at 4x
[06:03] <lee__> I'll be on fer a while..Iam absorbing data input lol
[06:03] <stdin> !dialup | anas
[06:03] <ubotu> anas: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[06:03] <tanner> Frogzoo: yeah, flushing didn't work; i suppose i'll do that for now, i appreciate your help
[06:03] <rahul_> MasterShrek> good to hear Evanlec, lol good ol vista (do not use vista)
[06:03] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, it does startup a hell of a lot faster than XP, otherwise not much improvement really
[06:04] <lee__> tell me how it goes
[06:04] <Vimto> is there any command i need to type onto DR-DOS ?
do u know how to make vista runn like xp so it does not use so much memmory
[06:04] <Madpilot> rahul_, Windows questions to ##windows, please
[06:04] <Frogzoo> tanner: yw
[06:05] <MasterShrek> rahul_, format the partition is the best way
[06:05] <rahul_> lol i have linux question
[06:05] <MasterShrek> !ask
[06:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:05] <m1r> anyone familiar with grub error 17 ?
[06:05] <Evanlec> rahul_, lol, umm, higher memory use is part of what you get with vista, its designed that way ;)
[06:05] <MasterShrek> m1r, ive seen it before :)
[06:06] <m1r> MasterShrek: any tips to fix ?
[06:06] <rahul_> need to change ur maping mlr
[06:06] <MeRodent> m1r, either boot or partition is incorrect.
[06:06] <Vimto> i dont know how to install this OS
[06:06] <Vimto> anybody can give me some useful links please?
[06:06] <MasterShrek> Vimto, boot the cd and click install
[06:06] <chowmeined> wait so
[06:06] <MeRodent> Vimto, are you using the livecd?
[06:06] <m1r> rahul_ , what do you suggest ?
[06:06] <chowmeined> feisty doesnt really use upstart does it?
http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/MoS2007/09_Installing_Ubuntu_Part_1
[06:07] <Dr_willis> I thought feisty used upstart
[06:07] <AJ--1> guys.. my sound wont work everytime i reboot my pc.. im using a via 710 pci sound card now
[06:07] <Evanlec> chowmeined, i believe it does use upstart..
[06:07] <MasterShrek> !upstart
[06:07] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[06:07] <chowmeined> yes its installed but
[06:07] <Vimto> MasterShrek, im doing this and i always get DR-DOS, which means i need to type something on that black window
[06:07] <m1r> MeRodent , i was using it normaly until i rebotted :/
[06:07] <chowmeined> none of the scripts are written for it
[06:07] <lee__> vimto are you using light scribe cdws by chance?
[06:07] <Vimto> am i doing well?
[06:07] <MeRodent> m1r, did you change any partitions?
[06:07] <rahul_> change ur mapping im trying the same thing with xp but it aint working error 17 is when u dual boot and grub is gone
[06:07] <elp> apt-get update not working? o.o?
[06:07] <MasterShrek> Vimto, have you actually installed ubuntu though? and it just doesnt boot on a reboot?
[06:08] <lee__> sounds like ms is built ina prgram to fight grub
[06:08] <Vimto> well, i think it doesnt boot!
 apt-get update not working? o.o? it's sudo apt-get update dood
[06:08] <m1r> MeRodent, i had USB HDD pluged in on boot
[06:08] <MeRodent> m1r,  before or after the error?
[06:08] <m1r> during boot
[06:08] <m1r> then i got error
[06:08] <choke> heguru, this is weird
[06:08] <Vimto> i get this message <DR-DOS>A:/>
[06:08] <Warini> Hi guys
 sorry yes i tried sudo apt-get update  it just doesn't connect to the sources
[06:09] <lee__> ?
[06:09] <rahul_> hey warinin
[06:09] <MasterShrek> Vimto, take the floppy out
[06:09] <rahul_> ur internet check it
[06:09] <lee__> yeah  i was about t o say that
[06:09] <rahul_> u lie lee__
[06:09] <MeRodent> m1r, what is probably happening is the usb drive is inserting itself before your boot drive. Grub then tries to boot from the wrong drive. You can simply unplug the USB drive and it should boot ok.
[06:09] <Vimto> im not using a floppy
[06:09] <lee__> lol I know
[06:09] <MasterShrek> whys it say A:/ then?
[06:10] <lee__> erg
[06:10] <Vimto> i dont know :s
[06:10] <m1r> MeRodent, i unpluged and restarted and nothing hapeneing and i need pc working for 1h :/
[06:10] <rahul_> every 1 <lee__> is a liar
[06:10] <lee__> lol
[06:10] <rahul_> mlr pop in the boot cd
[06:10] <MeRodent> m1r, do you have the livecd?
[06:10] <m1r> yes
[06:10] <rahul_> and just get grub
[06:10] <AJ--1> any problems with VIA sound cards with ubuntu?? coz evrytime i reboot my PC my sound wont work
[06:11] <Warini> does anyone know why after I install (apt-get install) apache php4 and mysql there is no /usr/local/bin/php?????
[06:11] <IdleOne> !offtopic | rahul_
[06:11] <ubotu> rahul_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:11] <lee__> but, but, I didnt lie on slowing the pseed down though to record the iso
[06:11] <Vimto> i get command or filename not recognized whenever i type something!
What
[06:11] <Vimto> want me to change the A to D?
[06:11] <m1r> rahul_ , how u mean just get grub ?
[06:11] <rahul_> im trying to figure out an issue with dual butting but no one will help me
[06:11] <MasterShrek> Vimto, it shouldnt even be coming up like that, is your bios set up to boot from cd?
[06:11] <fujin> Warini: apt-get install php5-cli.
[06:11] <eon_> dual butting? is that where two cocks are in one anus?
[06:11] <Warini> I need php4
[06:12] <rahul_> umm i think the command is
[06:12] <rahul_> sudo su-
[06:12] <rahul_> then
[06:12] <Warini> is php4-cli
[06:12] <fujin> apt-get install php4-cli?
[06:12] <Vimto> yes i done that using nero
[06:12] <Warini> lol
[06:12] <AJ--1> !LAMP | Warini
[06:12] <ubotu> Warini: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:12] <Vimto> firstly it boots, i see that its loading the drives
[06:12] <MasterShrek> Vimto, you dont set your bios to boot to cd in nero
[06:12] <Vimto> after that it requests to type a command!
[06:12] <MasterShrek> you hit esc or something right when ur computer starts to boot
[06:12] <Warini> ok I'll try it via ssh now
 rahul_ , how u mean just get grub ? TRY sudo su- then type in (nano /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[06:13] <Vimto> what i should do then?
[06:13] <lee__> No you  hit an  "F"key or hit delete or waht ever you manual syasy to get you into your bios
[06:13] <m1r> rahul_ , 1 min to boot livecd
[06:13] <Flannel> !grub | m1r
[06:13] <ubotu> m1r: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:14] <lee__> after you rebot the system
[06:14] <AJ--1> hey anyone help me with my sound problem it doesnt work anymore :(
[06:14] <Flannel> m1r: first link there to reinstall grub from a liveCD
[06:14] <lee__> but you have to be fast
[06:14] <m1r> tnx flannel
[06:14] <MeRodent> m1r, You should be able to run grub from livecd.   http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html#Installing-GRUB-natively
[06:14] <lee__> and if you don't kno w waht your doing...eh get a freind that does
[06:14] <MasterShrek> lee__, you shold be saying his nick when u type to him, also:
put in the live cd and go to start installing it should be the very 1st option
[06:14] <Warini> I preffer installing it myself instead of LAMP because I need php4 and LAMP installs php5
[06:14] <MasterShrek> !enter | lee__
[06:14] <ubotu> lee__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:14] <lee__> oh sorry
[06:14] <MasterShrek> =D
[06:14] <rahul_> ubotu help me
[06:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:14] <Vimto> MasterShrek can you please tell me how to create a bootable cd?
[06:15] <Flannel> Warini: follow the link to the wiki.  It'll give you instructions. But, php4 isn't in feisty at all.
 can u help me
[06:15] <rahul_> plzzz
[06:15] <MasterShrek> Vimto, just burn the iso to a cd, thats all i ever do, make sure your bios is set to boot from cd, and boot your ubuntu cd
[06:15] <lee__> rahual do you know waht kind of computer you have?
[06:15] <MasterShrek> with what rahul_ ?
[06:15] <rahul_> yes
[06:15] <Mixx> genii - <genii> Mixx: And in my Gutsy as well | ok good to know
[06:15] <rahul_> dual boot xp pro w/ linux
[06:15] <lee__> waht is it? a camapq or dell ausus?
[06:15] <Vimto> MasterShrek you want me just o write the file onto a CD ?
[06:15] <AJ--1> huhuhu no ones helping me :((
[06:15] <MasterShrek> rahul_, pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:15] <rahul_> linux on 1 hdd and xp on anothe rhdd
[06:15] <MeRodent> Vimto, you need to create cd from iso
[06:15] <choke> heguru, are you on?
[06:15] <IdleOne> !dualboot | rahul_ have you looked at this link?
[06:15] <ubotu> rahul_ have you looked at this link?: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[06:16] <MasterShrek> Vimto, burn the iso image to the cd
[06:16] <rahul_> yeah i have and it does not tell me what i alredy know
[06:16] <Vimto> MasterShrek and how can i do that?
[06:16] <gregorovius>  Hi, I've a question... when I plug in my mp3 player, gnome automounts it (I think it's gnome that does it), and I can umount it from gnome, but I can't do 'umount /media/disk' because it isn't in fstab... any ideas on what command can I use?
[06:16] <Warini> now i have it in usr/bin/php thanks
 yeah i have and it does not tell me what i alredy know
[06:16] <MasterShrek> Vimto, i dont know, im not using nero, im in linux
[06:16] <gregorovius> (without using sudo)
 ok i have the grub up what do u want ot c from it
[06:16] <aicram> Hello all.
[06:17] <Warini> what's the difference between having it on usr/bin/php and having it on usr/local/bin/php
[06:17] <demon_spork> how do I get the Ubuntu loading screen to show me all the stuff that is going on behind it?
[06:17] <Vimto> MasterShrek what shall i do then?
[06:17] <lee__> for dells there bios settings f-2 as there boot menue is f-12
[06:17] <dxdt> MasterShrek: they actually have a linux version of Nero.  Just saying
[06:17] <MasterShrek> rahul_, pastebin it
[06:17] <Flannel> Warini: local is for local installations (stuff not installed from the repos)
[06:17] <lee__> Asus systems you just hit delte
[06:17] <MasterShrek> i know dxdt but u have to pay for it
[06:17] <rahul_> i dont know how to do that <MasterShrek>
[06:17] <MasterShrek> !paste
[06:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:17] <Flannel> demon_spork: remove splash and quiet from your boot options
[06:17] <aicram> Is the beta gutsy 7.10 a livecd? Thank you.
[06:17] <rahul_> it's to big to paste it that's what it says
[06:17] <MasterShrek> Vimto, i dont know, learn how to use nero i guess
[06:17] <Vimto> MasterShrek its alright i can pay
[06:18] <Warini> so if i wanna hot a webpage in wich one should i have it
[06:18] <lee__> master shereck can you im him lol
[06:18] <Warini> ??
[06:18] <demon_spork> Flannel, is there any way to get it to display without removing them from the boot options, like a keybind or something?
[06:18] <MasterShrek> !apache | Warini
[06:18] <ubotu> Warini: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:18] <IdleOne> Vimto: in nero when you have the .iso you need to select Burn Data Disk and make sure it is bootable . it is in the options poke around you will find it
[06:18] <Vimto> MasterShrek im burning using bootable data disc
[06:18] <IdleOne> Vimto: that is it
[06:18] <Flannel> demon_spork: ctrl-alt-f2 will get you the TTY with the system info.  But that takes a smidge to get going.  Why don't you want to remove it?
[06:19] <lee__> Vimto, waht version of Nero do you have?
[06:19] <IdleOne> Vimto: wait sorry you need to burn as a bootable image not data disk
[06:20] <lee__> YES Vimto that is is the million dollar answer
[06:20] <Vimto> lol
[06:20] <demon_spork> FLannel, I just wanted a way to look at the info just when I feel like it, without having to edit the boot options
[06:20] <lee__> taht vimto is the right question with the right answer
[06:20] <rahul_> mastersherk can u remote assistance it would be lot ezzier
[06:20] <Vimto> alright i will try to find bootable image
[06:20] <AJ--> after several rebooting still my sound wnt work..pls anyone help my probs :((
[06:20] <Flannel> demon_spork: well, you can edit the boot options temporarily from the GRUB menu too.
[06:20] <MeRodent> demon_spork, why not just check the logs?
[06:21] <lee__> there in your browsers window has a link to ubuntu..or google it
[06:21] <Warini> ubotu: I know what LAMP is,I didn't install ubuntu LAMP because it installs php5 and i need php4
[06:21] <IdleOne> Warini: problem is that php4 is not in fiesty
[06:21] <lee__> oh vimto..dont download a torent
[06:21] <MeRodent> Warini, from memory the LAMP instructions tell you how to install php4 as an option.
[06:21] <Warini> fiesty????
[06:21] <Vimto> IdleOne there's no bootable image!
[06:21] <Flannel> What version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:21] <Warini> oooooo ok
[06:21] <Warini> sorry 6.06
[06:22] <IdleOne> lol
[06:22] <AJ--> Warini: if u want php4 to work. download the sound manualy coz fiesty dont have that in the repo
[06:22] <ddonky> anyone know why gaim isnt connecting to MSN?
[06:22] <lee__> vimto that is because its placed in a temp firle and is then later delted..you want to do save as
[06:22] <demon_spork> MeRodent, I am not looking for a problem, I just want to see the info if I feel like it, in Suse you can press f2 to remove the loading splash and see the stuff scrolling past
[06:22] <Warini> yes i know i'm using 6.06 because 7.04 doesn't support php4
[06:22] <mckensey> anybody can help me ?
[06:22] <Flannel> Warini: You don't use /usr/local then, since you'll do it entirely through package managemnt.  Follow the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:22] <demon_spork> or some keybind
[06:22] <IdleOne> Warini: try this apt-cache search php4 in a terminal see what results it gives you
[06:22] <mckensey> I have a problem with the amsn
[06:22] <Flannel> Warini: Just when it says do do stuff with php5, use the corresponding php4 package.
[06:22] <Vimto> well
WHERE DID U GO?????
[06:23] <Warini> don't worry i installed it
[06:23] <Vimto> i think im lost
[06:23] <MasterShrek> rahul_, join #mastershrek
[06:23] <Vimto> is there any software that helps?
[06:24] <Warini> also i'm working remote from OS X because the ubuntu computer is in sever mode no GUI
[06:24] <Warini> ssh :)
[06:24] <Warini> OK thanks
[06:24] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, ever tried to use a prefetching type app in ubuntu?
[06:24] <AJ--> does ubuntu have an issue with this sound card --->VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] 
[06:24] <ddonky> does pidgin connect to msn?
[06:24] <Warini> all working now
[06:24] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, not really
[06:25] <choke> heguru, are you there?
[06:25] <graelb> Hi!
[06:25] <lee__> Masterschrech, I really need to start thinking that some people just don't know stuff like isos an os an such
[06:25] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, ts a good idea, but seems not to be very well developed
[06:25] <Warini> the problem was i didn't know if php should be on usr/local/bin or usr/bin, but now is in usr/bin and working
[06:25] <graelb> Does anyone know how to delete saved sessions in xfce?
[06:25] <Vimto> IdleOne do you know something about infra recorder?
[06:25] <Coded1> how do i find out whats using my "YY2 video port" ?
[06:25] <Flannel> Warini: You should install it through package management.
[06:25] <AJ--> does ubuntu have an issue with this sound card --->VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]  ?????
[06:25] <Warini> i installed with apt-get install
[06:26] <MasterShrek> ic Evanlec, its like preloading a program right?
[06:26] <lee__> not sure
[06:26] <m1r> ok, i tryed reinstall grub but error 17 again :/
[06:26] <Vimto> i think im done
[06:26] <lee__> erg...I have an unbuntu ..issue..called..dog licking me hes interfeering lol
[06:27] <choke> i need help here with my audio card
[06:27] <Warini> THANKS a lot guys
[06:27] <Vimto> im burning the way you told me
[06:27] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, right, and also preloading programs at boot-time
[06:27] <choke> the song is playing but i cant hear
[06:27] <MeRodent> m1r, are you running livecd?
[06:27] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i would love that for firefox lol
[06:27] <Coded1> all i have running is a few FireFoxes, eclipse, kopete and bluefish no 3d acceleration
[06:27] <Vimto> anybody knows if i can install adobe photoshop on linux?
[06:27] <m1r> MeRodent, yes
[06:27] <lee__> choke, do a google search on unbuntu and your audio card and see waht comes up
[06:27] <mindrape> Vimto - yes with Wine.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> choke,  and what audio card is this. ? is this a laptop?
[06:27] <Coded1> ati video card (Rage 128 pro)
[06:28] <Vimto> great!
[06:28] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, exactly what i was thinking
[06:28] <Vimto> mindrape i have windows version is that okay?
[06:28] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i defiitely use firefox the most of any app
[06:28] <mindrape> !wine | vimto
[06:28] <ubotu> vimto: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:28] <MasterShrek> me too Evanlec and xchat
[06:28] <MeRodent> m1r, run gparted and check which partition is your / partition
[06:28] <AJ--> dang cant get my sound working plsss help
[06:28] <m1r> MeRodent: ok sec to boot up
[06:28] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, yep, tho xchat starts pretty damn quick anyway
[06:28] <lee__> ubotu, seesm to have qutie the database
[06:29] <Vimto> wow great info!! thanks mindrape
[06:29] <mindrape> AJ-- type dmesg and see if its even detected.
[06:29] <usr13> AJ--, What seems to be the problem?
[06:29] <MasterShrek> tru.dat Evanlec
[06:29] <mindrape> AJ-- type lspci and see if its listed there also...
[06:29] <Madpilot> lee__, the bot is the most intelligent user of this channel, bar none. :)
[06:29] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, my wine takes like 5-10 minutes to start every time, its a pain in the arse, i forget all about trying to start a wine program before it opens lol
[06:29] <usr13> AJ--, Do as mindrape says.
[06:29] <mindrape> AJ-- finally you can try lsmod to see if any modules have attempted to be loaded to get you sound
[06:29] <AJ--> mindrape: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]    <<----this is my sound card
[06:29] <lee__> mapilot I have to agree lol
[06:30] <Vimto> what version do you recommend guys?
[06:30] <mindrape> AJ-- is lsmod doesnt show any drivers then google and find the driver name... then modprobe DRIVERNAMEYOUFIND
[06:30] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, wine is always slow, i think thats cuz its wine...
[06:30] <lee__> say how would linux fair in in  running artificial intellegence programs and robtics and cybernetics?
[06:30] <Vimto> 6.06.1 or the 7.04?
[06:30] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, but never this slow
[06:30] <mindrape> AJ-- you may have sound enabled but just turned way down... I recommend the package aumix to check it...
[06:30] <MasterShrek> lee__, probably better than anything else
[06:30] <MasterShrek> Vimto, 7.04
[06:31] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, im gonna try it out, you might also: 'sudo apt-get install preload'
[06:31] <MasterShrek> ill take a look Evanlec...
[06:31] <Evanlec> cool
[06:31] <lee__> well then MasterShreck there is a new project then for some wih tthe money lol
[06:31] <Vimto> MasterShrek how can i ensure the security?
[06:31] <AJ--> mindrape: it was working last night but wen i start my pc this morning sound is gone.. and that happens everyday..
[06:31] <MasterShrek> Vimto, security of what?
[06:31] <usr13> AJ--, See:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/105518
ok im back
[06:31] <Vimto> of my computer? =P
[06:32] <lee__> oh tahts the beauty of linux vimtu
[06:32] <Ahadiel> Vimto, You can disconnect from the interwebs :3
[06:32] <Vimto> lol why! ;p
[06:32] <lee__> and dont surf inaprorpriate sights vimtu
[06:32] <Ahadiel> Vimto, To secure your computer as you said >_>
[06:32] <linoleum> Hello, How can I activate Dmix in ubuntu ? because when I try to use Jackd and play music , it doesn work, I think it's because HW0 is already in use. I need to use Dmix but I dont know how to install it
[06:32] <Vimto> =(
[06:32] <m1r> MeRodent: i am on gparted
[06:33] <Vimto> thats very bad news:P
WHERE DID U GO
[06:33] <cottagechz> I am trying to install grub from knoppix, but I cannot add deps to knoppix to compile grub, anyone?
[06:33] <MeRodent> m1r, what partition does your boot partition show as...   /   ext3
[06:33] <lee__> vimtu if you want real security go off the grid
[06:33] <Dr_willis> cottagechz,  compile grub? huh?
[06:33] <kahrytan>  How do i turn off the automatic logging in xchat? and don't tell me to goto preferences. the log checkbox is not checked
[06:34] <cottagechz> well I mean run configure
[06:34] <gogeta> cottagechz thers a grub live cd you can use
[06:34] <Vimto> okay!
[06:34] <Warini> guys were is the mysql config file, need to know the port
[06:34] <gogeta> cottagechz to reinstall/fix grub
[06:34] <Dr_willis> cottagechz,  if you have an installed system - you can boot a live cd, chroot over to the installed system (mount it  and proc and /dev properly) and rerun update-grub
[06:34] <gogeta> cottagechz or even remove
[06:34] <m1r> MeRodent , i have grub on windows partition
[06:34] <mindrape> 3306 = mysql port
WHERE DID MasterShrek GO????
[06:35] <cottagechz> will it let me edit the mbr so I can boot?  my boot partition is windows.
[06:35] <MasterShrek> on phone hang on.....
[06:35] <Warini> thanks
[06:35] <rahul__> OK
[06:35] <choke> Dr_willis, the audio card is abit fatal1ty
[06:35] <mindrape> Warini - if you want to know what process is using which TCP/IP port you can type       sudo netstat -tulp
[06:35] <gogeta> cottagechz the grub live cd yes
[06:35] <choke> Dr_willis, its a computer not a laptop
[06:35] <Evanlec> rahul__, i dotn know! but change your nick for heavens sake
[06:35] <rahul__> Y
[06:35] <Dr_willis> choke,  id have to say google for that card and what chipset its using.
[06:35] <rahul__> I LIKE MY NAME
[06:35] <rahul__> IT'S COOLLLL
[06:35] <graelb> wait... did he just say it's a computer, not a laptop?
[06:35] <Flannel> !caps | rahul__
[06:35] <ubotu> rahul__: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:36] <gogeta> cottagechz it can even fit on a floppy disk id need be if you cant burn
[06:36] <MeRodent> m1r, we're looking for the linux root partion..  Mountpoint should be /   what we want is the Partition name ie: /dev/sda2
[06:36] <cottagechz> no floppys here. not even native cdrom :(  good thing I can boot off usb
[06:36] <rahul__> shout aaaa
[06:36] <m1r> MeRodent , /dev/hda7
[06:36] <mindrape> graelb - Unless it is a mainframe I dont consider it a computer...
[06:36] <gogeta> cottagechz no cd rom?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210820 is a good thread on repairing grub. Its a little disorganized however.
[06:37] <m1r> merodent , dev/hda6 is boot partition
[06:37] <cottagechz> so wait can I use the ubuntu cd for grub install?
[06:37] <mindrape> graelb - I am using a basic electronic input/output device right now...
[06:37] <Flannel> cottagechz: yep
[06:37] <gogeta> cottagechz yes
[06:37] <cottagechz> gogeta xplore ix104c2 is my comp
[06:37] <m1r> merodent , it seems i have two boot partitions
[06:37] <MeRodent> m1r, do you have any other hard drives?
[06:37] <m1r> one hard drive, several partitions
[06:37] <MeRodent> m1r, did you install twice?
[06:37] <graelb> mindrape: ...that was sarcasm, right?
[06:37] <m1r> seems so
[06:37] <mindrape> yes.  :)
[06:37] <graelb> hehe
[06:37] <graelb> i figured
[06:38] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, so what do u think? seems pretty straightforward, but not much documentation for it...
[06:38] <gogeta> cottagechz i think you can run grub install and grub update right off the live cd
[06:38] <jonshepher2> Hello again. Still havne't gotten my wireless card up. I give up for tonight. In fact I don't know whats wrong. I have the "windows wireless drivers tab in Admistration but it opens and closes all in the same time. Me next problem is that I currently have no internet connection on that machine because even my wired connection is acting up. Does anyone know where I can get the Software/ codecs I need to play Mpegs, avi, and mp3s?
[06:38] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, what do i do? just run it?
[06:38] <cottagechz> ok I will try knoppix wont let me run it.  thx
[06:38] <Flannel> !grub | cottagechz, first link will give you all sorts of options
[06:38] <ubotu> cottagechz, first link will give you all sorts of options: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:38] <MasterShrek> rahul_, whats your problem now?
[06:38] <mindrape> jonshepher2 - I recommend you sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:38] <Dr_willis> cottagechz,  yes. You boot a live cd. and chroot over.  that url site mentioned how you need to set up (mount /proc and /dev also) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210820 if you want to learn whats going on.
[06:38] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, itsa a daemon,so after doing apt-get, u got "preload started" output?
[06:38] <MeRodent> m1r, just so you know grub will see the drives as (hd0,6) and (hd0,5)
[06:38] <MasterShrek> jonshepher2, what kind of wireless card do you have?
[06:38] <m1r> merodent , dev/hda1 and hda5 are windwos partitions , hda6 is /boot hda7 is / and hda8 is swap
[06:38] <rahul__> dual boot i can figgure out y it aint doin it
[06:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, mp3 | jonshepher2
[06:38] <ubotu> jonshepher2: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:38] <MasterShrek> i dunno Evanlec, but i did start it
[06:39] <MasterShrek> rahul_, can you boot linux just fine?
[06:39] <Flannel> !aptoncd | jonshepher2
[06:39] <jonshepher2> Well it's the dell 1390
[06:39] <ubotu> jonshepher2: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[06:39] <graelb> I'm curious as to what you guys do during the day that puts money in your pocket. I always see a million people in here who seem like your only funtion is to help people (which is awesome by the way,) but i'm curious as to what you all do to feed yourselves
[06:39] <rahul__> im on it as we speack
[06:39] <MeRodent> m1r, so hopefully this should work.  start a terminal and type in grub
[06:39] <mindrape> graelb - I just idle here 24/7... I work as a security guy for a couple of banks.
[06:39] <Frostex> Hi there, is there anybody here that can help me fix my drive configuration. i am on knoppix live, it will not let me mount one of my drives
[06:39] <graelb> cool! how's that pay?
[06:39] <Evanlec> graelb, good question lol
[06:39] <m1r> MeRodent: done
[06:39] <jonshepher2> guys ,I am using Windows on this machine
[06:39] <MasterShrek> rahul_, you just need to add an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:39] <mindrape> graelb - more than 100k.  :)
[06:39] <gogeta> !windows
[06:39] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:40] <MasterShrek> !dualboot | rahul_
[06:40] <ubotu> rahul_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[06:40] <graelb> schwing!
[06:40] <rahul__> well i did u wan tot cheack it out
[06:40] <MasterShrek> rahul_, follow that link and it will tell you what to add
[06:40] <Evanlec> mindrape, not bad lol
[06:40] <MeRodent> m1r, at the grub prompt type in  > root (hd0,6)
[06:40] <Frostex> Hi there, is there anybody here that can help me fix my drive configuration. i am on knoppix live, it will not let me mount one of my drives
[06:40] <mindrape> graelb - I'm actually thinking of switching and going to a Linux focus... there is an opening on this team.  It would pay only 95k but I wouldn't have to deal with other crap like Windows environments and some of the other aspects of security I loathe...
[06:40] <lee__> hmm a nother light jsut came on..free softwres not effected by stock market crashing
[06:41] <m1r> MeRodent: done
[06:41] <jonshepher2> So I guess my question is this. How do I download this software on this Windows box and then copy and install it on my Better box?'
[06:41] <MasterShrek> rahul_, pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l    and ill be able to help you much better
[06:41] <gogeta> 95k ill take it
[06:41] <MeRodent> type in > setup (hd0)
[06:41] <riotkittie> i myself am a pirate. i sail the seven seas with my laptop in tow, and answer the occasional question while not conversing with my parrot or reaping the spoils of my piratey type doings.
[06:41] <graelb> Yeah, well... if it makes you have a better day, then do it. Money really shouldn't be the deciding factor in that one
[06:41] <graelb> you'd be doing what you want to do over what you only kind of want to do
[06:41] <Evanlec> I'll take 95k ANYDAY
[06:41] <Evanlec> lol
[06:41] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  heh - i was thinking that also.. :)
 i cant it says it's too big
[06:41] <riotkittie> "only" 95? arrr.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  but i bet he has to actually THINK...
[06:41] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:41] <mindrape> yeah... money, the people I work with, the overall stress of the job, and travel are the primary factors I consider.  I could make 150 right now but travel 99% of the time... not interested.
[06:41] <rahul__> can u remote acess it
[06:42] <MasterShrek> !paste | rahul_
[06:42] <ubotu> rahul_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:42] <gogeta> wilis minuam wage geek hear
[06:42] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  I was on Strike Today.. :) strikes over.. Factory worker here.
[06:42] <MasterShrek> rahul_, its still not letting me connect
[06:42] <Flannel> Guys, take the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[06:42] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  'would you like to supersize that glutton bucker sir?'
[06:42] <lee__> is ruahl on the cd rom?
[06:43] <gogeta> hehe
[06:43] <AJ--> mindrape: does my onboard inter sound card interupt my pci sound card????
[06:43] <gogeta> i dont do that anymore thank god
 my ip changed
[06:43] <mindrape> AJ-- it very well may... did you read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/105518 that somebody pasted earlier?
[06:43] <Evanlec> AJ--, disable your onboard soundcard in bios
[06:43] <AJ--> im looking at it now
[06:44] <m1r> MeRodent: i get error 15
[06:44] <lee__> Mastershreck could it be his router settings?
[06:44] <jeff1212> what is the code to use to wipe the hdd dry of any recoverable data?
my ip changed
[06:44] <MeRodent> m1r, try > root (hd0,5)
[06:44] <MasterShrek> rahul_, im in
[06:44] <rahul__> i got it up for u on a private message
[06:44] <rahul__> ok
[06:44] <rahul__> can u c my grub
[06:44] <MeRodent> m1r, then > setup (hd0)
[06:44] <Frostex> Hi there, is there anybody that can help with my HDD configuration. it wont let me access my files, i am using a knoppix live CD
 can u c my grub
[06:45] <m1r> merodent it passed on 0.5
[06:45] <graelb> Well, you guys have a good night, i need to die for the night
[06:45] <lee__> grrr this isnt a knoppix sight
[06:45] <mindrape> Frostex - did you mount your /dev/XXXX as read/write?
[06:45] <mindrape> Frostex - also, are you logged in as root?
[06:45] <jonshepher2> I guess once again, no can help me with my problem here
[06:45] <gogeta> lee they seem to think so
[06:45] <m1r> merodent , reboot ?
[06:45] <graelb> exit
[06:45] <lee__> I have a kneopix cd though and i understand where you are coming form
[06:45] <graelb> ...
[06:45] <MeRodent> m1r, in that case you should be able to type > quit     then reboot.
[06:45] <allam> i want to act as aroot
[06:45] <AJ--> Evanlec: ill try that
[06:45] <mindrape> sudo | allam
[06:45] <m1r> MeRodent: ok i go reboot
[06:45] <IdleOne> Frostex: try asking in #knoppix they will be able to help you more
[06:45] <MasterShrek> rahul__, reboot and try it
[06:45] <jeff1212> does anyone know a code to type in the terminal to wipe the hdd clean of any recoverable data ?
[06:45] <gogeta> lee isnt there a channel called koneopix
[06:46] <rahul__> should xp work then
[06:46] <mindrape> !sudo | allam
[06:46] <ubotu> allam: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:46] <gogeta> lol
[06:46] <MasterShrek> rahul__, it should
[06:46] <Flannel> jeff1212: check out shred
 will xp work
[06:46] <lee__> oh taht reminds me
[06:46] <rahul__> ok ill try
[06:46] <Dr_willis> jeff1212,  dozens of ways to do it - Depending on EXACTLY what you are wanting to do.
[06:46] <mindrape> jeff1212 - there are a few ways...
[06:46] <mindrape> doh, sorry for repeat
[06:46] <Frostex> well the problem roots from windows, when i plugged my old HD into new computer it would tell me i needed to format the drive to acess the files. i was reccomend knoppix live CD to recover the data. all other drives are automatically detected and everything, but this says that i cannot mount it
[06:46] <soundblaster> i have a sound blaster audigy 5.1 ship creative and i cant play music
[06:47] <jeff1212> Dr_willis:  meet me in room #jeff1212 ill tell u there
[06:47] <lee__> erg
[06:47] <soundblaster> the song is running but i cant hear
[06:47] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  odd. My augigy cards always work great.
[06:47] <IdleOne> !sound | soundblaster
[06:47] <ubotu> soundblaster: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:47] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  this isent a X-Fi card is it?
[06:47] <mindrape> Frostex - if you want to recover Windows data I recommend you pop the Windows drive out of the computer (even if its been formatted) and pop it in another computer.  On the "fresh" computer with Windows I recommend you go to www.runtime.org and get their recovery software. Its easy to use and does a great job of recovery.  Linux recovery disks only get you in if you lost admin passwords and whatnot.
[06:47] <Flannel> jeff1212: shred is the best way.  man shred for details.  Pretty much pass it a path, the defaults are... 26 itrations, you that's configurable though.
[06:48] <soundblaster> Dr_willis, its a old card 5.1
[06:48] <lee__> the bot wisperd to me and said is wanst intellegent
[06:48] <gogeta> lee and was it wrong i dont beleve so :)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  Thats weird. You got an onboard sound as well?  You  Using the Digital out for sound?
[06:48] <m1r> MeRodent: i got to : grub>
[06:48] <mindrape> Frostex - Linux cd's like Knoppix are not intended to recover data from formatted/damaged Windows partitions...
[06:49] <lee__> no it just told me not to call it intellegent lol
[06:49] <soundblaster> Dr_willis, yes
[06:49] <lee__> its a rahter humble bot
[06:49] <jeff1212> Flannel:  u meet me in room #jeff1212 i need to ask u if it will get rid of something and not wana say in here
[06:49] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  you might want to be more verbose. :) I rember ages ago i had to use the alsamixergui  (i think) to check a box to  enable the digital out to actually work for my system
[06:49] <Flannel> jeff1212: It gets rid of everything.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  i havent had to do that in ages.. but it might be worth looking into. it sounds likje the card is working.. its just a mixer/volume issue.
[06:50] <m1r> MeRodent: i keeps returning me to : grub> , on boot
[06:50] <riotkittie> ugh.
[06:50] <gogeta> m1r winhell?
[06:50] <CreativeSoul> hey is there anyone who could help me out with broadcom aircrack support?
[06:50] <m1r> gogeta , dual boot yes
[06:51] <Kyokuz> is 7.04 called feisty?
[06:51] <gogeta> m1r single drive?
[06:51] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  the alsamixer program  is a console based mixer i tend to use.
[06:51] <Frostex> thanks mindrape, what do you reccomend i should do to recover it? all the files are still there, there was absolutly no change made to the disks, but when i unplugged from one windows machine and plugged into another it tells me i need to format. how can i avoid formatting it to recover my data
[06:51] <riotkittie> Kyokuz: yes
[06:51] <m1r> gogeta yes
[06:51] <MasterShrek> Kyokuz, yes
[06:51] <Kyokuz> ty
[06:51] <lee__> Ok its 10 o clock here and I aint taking this broeder to nicely
[06:51] <gogeta> m1r then its 0,0
[06:51] <lee__> brb
[06:51] <m1r> ah
[06:51] <gogeta> m1r not 0,1
[06:51] <soundblaster> everythins seems correct
[06:51] <soundblaster> all connections 100%
[06:51] <gogeta> m1r i made same mastake
[06:51] <soundblaster> but i just cant hear the song
[06:52] <m1r> gogeta
[06:52] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  use alsamixer and scrollover to the right off the screen.. :) you are describing the issues i had  a few yrs back.
[06:52] <m1r> gogeta , error 17 , cannot mount selected partition
[06:52] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  as a text you could try hookingup speakers to the normal outputs. not using the digital out.
[06:52] <jazz_> can someone help me
[06:52] <gogeta> m1r you said grub
[06:52] <MasterShrek> !ask
[06:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:52] <m1r> gogeta yes
[06:52] <gogeta> m1r on the menu list
[06:53] <soundblaster> no song and the master is at 100
[06:53] <gogeta> m1r root (hda 0,0)
[06:53] <gogeta> or however its formated
[06:53] <MasterShrek> (hd0,0)
[06:53] <gogeta> m1r it will worki promis
[06:53] <MasterShrek> rahul_, did it work?
WHAT IN THE WORLD DI DDO
[06:53] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  im not refering to the 'master' volume..  i am refering to the " Item: Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack        "  toggle. if its not set right. You get no output to the digital out even if the volumes are up
[06:53] <rahul_> YEAH IT WORKED EXCEPT THEIR R NO DRIVERS
[06:53] <jazz_> hey, i kinda screwed up my mbr, i know this is ubuntu but i think some one here knows slackware, i use lilo in my mbr, how would i get rid of it?
[06:53] <Flannel> !enter | rahul_
[06:53] <ubotu> rahul_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:53] <MasterShrek> rahul_?
[06:54] <MasterShrek> weird rahul_, no drivers in windows?
[06:54] <chreamcls> hey jazz we are having the same kind of fun!
[06:54] <rahul_> no drivers like
[06:54] <rahul_> i know like wtf
[06:54] <m1r> gogoeta, nothing
[06:54] <rahul_> no internet driver so i cant search for anyother
[06:54] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  its the '33rd' mixer/controll to the right, in the alsamixer program on my Audigy card.
[06:54] <jazz_> lol
[06:54] <rahul_> any ideas' <MasterShrek>
[06:54] <gogeta> m1r when you boot grub you will be able to boot windowz
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Egads those cards got a lot of things on them. :)
[06:54] <MasterShrek> hmm, rahul_ u said u have a flash drive?
[06:54] <m1r> gogeta , nothing happens, error 17 on setup hd0 and error 23 on root (hda0,0
[06:54] <rahul_> yeah i do
[06:54] <gogeta> outcy
[06:55] <MasterShrek> m1r, its (hd0,0)
[06:55] <gogeta> you got the chainload +1 right
[06:55] <m1r> yes MasterShrek
[06:55] <jazz_> hey chreamcls, what did u do?
[06:55] <MasterShrek> rahul_, download the driver and put it on that, then reboot into windows and install it
 im alredy looking for them but thier aint any drivers for this computer for xp
[06:55] <MasterShrek> yes its in there gogeta
[06:55] <Frostex> what is the knoppix or windows IRC channel??
[06:55] <rahul_> wtf
[06:55] <soundblaster> how can i run alsamixer program?
[06:55] <bintut> i just found out that the interface names are named as eth2 and eth3.. is there a way to change it permanently maybe eth0 for the wired and wlan0 for the wifi?
[06:55] <m1r> mastershrek , gogeta , but i cant do : setup (hd0) after
[06:55] <jazz_> does anyone know how to fix the mbr?
[06:55] <gogeta> system sound boot
[06:55] <MasterShrek> rahul_, there should be
[06:55] <gogeta> lol did you save
[06:55] <lee__> its automatic
[06:55] <soundblaster> Mr_Willis
[06:55] <m0m> have you done the grub_update m1r?
[06:55] <rahul_> noo their aint this is pissing me off
[06:55] <MasterShrek> gogeta, yes
[06:56] <m1r> m0m no
[06:56] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  #1 install it.. #2 enter its name in the terminal. :)
[06:56] <m0m> do it m1r
[06:56] <gogeta> LOL
[06:56] <MasterShrek> rahul_, the drivers were installed before?
 how could a computer now have any drivers for xp when it's made by dell
[06:56] <soundblaster> appears a grafic
[06:56] <Dr_willis> !info alsamixer
[06:56] <ubotu> Package alsamixer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:56] <MeRodent> m1r, setup will only do that for linux partition.
[06:56] <MasterShrek> rahul_, dell.com should have drivers
[06:56] <soundblaster> but i dont understand what you talking about
[06:56] <soundblaster> :\
[06:56] <xjkx> what would you recommend me to burn isos and blank cds other than gnomebaker?
[06:56] <rahul_> im alredy on that but they dont
[06:56] <MasterShrek> xjkx, k3b
[06:56] <rahul_> wow no sound driver no internet driver
[06:56] <m1r> m0m , error27 unrecongnized command
[06:56] <rahul_> how fucking gay
[06:56] <gogeta> m1r !pastbin
[06:56] <MasterShrek> !ohmy
[06:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:56] <riotkittie> sweet. two of my partitions overlap. i should remedy that, i guess.
[06:56] <mindrape> rahul - this is a family channel... keep it clean
[06:57] <rahul_> sorry
[06:57] <Dr_willis> !find   alsamixer
[06:57] <ubotu> Found: alsamixergui, gnome-alsamixer
[06:57] <xjkx> MasterShrek, kdelibs do not exist to me
[06:57] <AJ--> ok the helps.. tnx a lot guys... my sound workds after disabling the onboard sound at bios
[06:57] <rahul_> just little agry
[06:57] <gogeta> m1r toss it up on pastbin
[06:57] <riotkittie> internet driver?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  its in the alsamisergui package
[06:57] <gogeta> m1r see whats up hear
[06:57] <m1r> gogeta , how can i pastebin from grub ?!?!
[06:57] <lee__> I have a del dinison 51 50 it came with media center..they sent me disks for reloading that machine it included the drivers
[06:57] <MasterShrek> xjkx, add extra repos, universe and multiverse?
[06:57] <rahul_> MasterShrek> what did u change on my grub by the way i very curious
[06:57] <lee__> itwas a pack of 6cds
[06:57] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  'sudo apt-get install  alsamicergui' , run 'alsamixer'
[06:57] <xjkx> MasterShrek, no, i mean i excluded it from my world
[06:57] <MeRodent> m1r, can you run > find /boot/grub/stage1    from the grub prompt?
[06:58] <gogeta> m1r your using the gui right yea copy past the menu.list
[06:58] <MasterShrek> rahul_, the last few lines, for the windows options
[06:58] <Dr_willis> dang it i spelt it wrong. :)
[06:58] <soundblaster> Dr_willis, ok
[06:58] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  'sudo apt-get install  alsamixergui' , run 'alsamixer'
[06:58] <rahul_> what did u change em to
[06:58] <MasterShrek> xjkx, well then u cant install k3b, it is about the best out there tho
[06:58] <gogeta> m1r linux is still working right
[06:58] <m1r> merodent , no
[06:58] <jonshepher2> Anyone know where I can codecs without using the Package manager? I.E. The net?
[06:58] <m1r> gogeta, that is other pc
[06:58] <gogeta> m1r being your edting it
[06:58] <m0m> update-grub m1r
[06:58] <Chustar> hello
[06:58] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  then arrow over to the right 23 times or so. Looking for the 'digital out' toggle.
[06:58] <gogeta> m1r well no wonder why
[06:59] <gogeta> m1r boot linux on te one that whont boot windows
[06:59] <rahul_> title=winrootnoverify (hd0,1)makeactivechainloader +1
[06:59] <m1r> gogeta, that is other pc grub is error
[06:59] <m1r> gogeta, laptop, cant put other HD
 tell me what did u changed plz so i know what i missed
[06:59] <lee__> hmm would a dual boot work with seperate drives?
[06:59] <gogeta> m1r  what
[06:59] <Dr_willis> soundblaster,  its the 32'd item on my Audigy2Zs card. to the rgight on the alsamixer progrram.
[06:59] <rahul_> yeah lee__
[06:59] <m1r> merodent, find /boot/grub/stage1 found hd0,5
[06:59] <gogeta> m1r you said dule boot error not grub crash
[06:59] <MasterShrek> rahul_, i just pretty much copied the 'dummy' windows entry in that file, and put it at the bottom of the file
[06:59] <lee__> hmmm
[07:00] <rahul_> i got 2 hdd and they both have xp and linux on to diffrent hdd
[07:00] <m1r> gogeta srys
[07:00] <gogeta> !grub
[07:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:00] <rahul_> i had it like that
[07:00] <MasterShrek> rahul_, it was way messed up compared to that
[07:00] <razer> Hey why can't I run at higher than 1024x748 with a geforce2 and nvidia driver in ubuntu?
[07:00] <rahul_> i c but wait the last part title=winrootnoverify (hd0,1)makeactive chainloader +1
[07:00] <rahul_> wasnt that right
[07:00] <Kyokuz> i am trying to do a manual bootstrap and i can't get apt-cdrom add to work, the cd seems locked, i can't eject it... any ideas?
[07:01] <hhp2k> razer: Your xorg.conf file might not have the correct monitor sync ranges in it.
[07:01] <lee__> hiow about making a bootable sd card ?
[07:01] <hhp2k> razer: did you configure that properly?
[07:01] <rahul_> that sucks <Kyokuz>
[07:01] <Kyokuz> yeah it sucks big time
[07:01] <rahul_> lee__ y would u do tah t
[07:01] <razer> hhp2k: It is enabled.
[07:01] <Kyokuz> trying to get dmraid working, it's a nightmare
[07:01] <gogeta> you guys use slow usb drives lol
[07:01] <Kyokuz> so is there a way to get the cd ejected?
[07:02] <gogeta> sd card even more leet
[07:02] <gogeta> lol
[07:02] <MeRodent> m1r, so the linux boot partition is (hd0.5)
[07:02] <m1r> merodent , it passed on hd0,5
[07:02] <rahul_> ok so no internet driver how in the world do i get the rest of the drivers
[07:02] <razer> hhp2k: And the windows still can't cache fast enough.
 got another problem for u
[07:02] <m1r> merodent, but i type exit, it says unrecognized command
[07:02] <MasterShrek> whats that rahul_ ?
[07:02] <rahul_> i have a tv tunner i jus tbouth it 2 days a go and it does not work w/ linux
[07:02] <hhp2k> razer: Enabled has nothing to do with it really =) reconfigure your xorg.conf with the correct sync ranges for your monitor by selecting the "advanced" option when it asks for details about your monitor. Find the sync ranges in your monitor's manual or look it up online.
[07:02] <MeRodent> m1r, that means it should be > root (hd0,5)       > setup (hd0)     > quit
[07:02] <MasterShrek> i dont know much about them rahul_
[07:03] <rahul_> i c
[07:03] <Dr_willis> night all..
[07:03] <_aaa> Have a toshiba PDA, is it possible to sync with a Linux OS?
u got an IM
[07:03] <hhp2k> razer: If you need help finding the sync range, tell me your monitor's make and model and I'll attempt to find it for you.
[07:03] <lee__> rahul , i have some video software that i am working with..and...dont have any save for windows
[07:03] <m1r> merodent, it wont accept quit/exit/done/whatever to end
[07:03] <razer> hhp2k: I can't use the ubuntu settings?
[07:04] <MeRodent> m1r, hang 5.
[07:04] <m1r> tnx
[07:04] <MasterShrek> rahul_, is your nick registered? u cant pm unless it is
 wat do u mean
[07:04] <razer> hhp2k: Ubuntu doesn't support gui for setting desktop resolution?
[07:04] <gogeta> merodent lol he didnt say crash to me lol
[07:04] <regeya> whee.
where do i go to register it
[07:04] <hhp2k> razer: ubuntu does its best to autodetect your monitor's settings, but this is commonly the problem with unresolved resolution problems. Sometimes Ubuntu can't figure it out, so it's up to you.
[07:04] <gogeta> merodent hear i am thinking he has acess to menu.list
[07:04] <gogeta> lol
[07:04] <MasterShrek> rahul_, /msg nickserv register help
[07:04] <hhp2k> razer: Do you know how to reconfigure xorg.conf?
[07:05] <jeff1212> mindrape:  i read man shred but doesnt say how t shred the empty space on the hdd
[07:05] <m1r> gogeta, how to acces it ?
[07:05] <soundblaster> Dr_Willis, i dont have the 'digital out'
[07:05] <skorice> whats the channel for programming
[07:05] <regeya> o_O
[07:05] <gogeta> m1r you have boot acessnow right
[07:05] <MeRodent> gogeta, I was going to mention it but I thought I'd let you discover that yourself. (he also has the root partition much further up than 0,1)
[07:05] <m1r> gogeta: grub>
[07:05] <razer> hhp2k: Don't think so. Just so you know I didn't use the x.org though, I used the driver supplied by nvidia and compiled it with libc-dev
[07:05] <MeRodent> m1r, the command should be quit
[07:05] <lee__> i was a vollunteer for kltv a local non profit 5013c..and i am trying to find alternative to a morestable enviroment..for editng vids
[07:05] <m1r> merodent, it dont accept it
[07:06] <razer> hhp2k: But that file will still be there.
[07:06] <regeya> skorice: that's a bit general, so I doubt anyone can really help all that much, sorry
[07:06] <MeRodent> m1r, try ctrl z
[07:06] <m1r> kk
[07:06] <lee__> I record vids edit them on the hdd if small enoght and then prepare a dvd
[07:06] <gogeta> lol
[07:06] <m1r> nothing
[07:06] <gogeta> how he totaly crash grub
[07:06] <hhp2k> razer: xorg.conf is the configuration file for your computer's hardware, it's being used by default. The Nvidia driver is the piece of software that allows the computer to communicate with your video card efficiently.
[07:06] <lee__> called Authoring
[07:06] <MeRodent> m1r, so you're still stuck at the grub prompt?
[07:06] <jeff1212> what do i type in term to shred the empty space on the hdd and leave the rest alone?
[07:06] <m1r> merodent , yes :/
[07:06] <lee__> basically i minuplate video and audio lol
[07:07] <javiermanya> hi
[07:07] <gogeta> live cd reinstall
[07:07] <m1r> gogeta, USB drive stayed in slot while PC booted and then i got error
[07:07] <gogeta> LOL
[07:07] <gogeta> did you err
[07:07] <gogeta> remive the drive
[07:07] <soundblaster> Mr_Willis
[07:07] <gogeta> remove
[07:07] <lee__> For now I used to use adbie preimeir 6.0
[07:07] <m1r> gogeta , yes
[07:07] <MeRodent> m1r, that's the stage you got to and rebooted last time wasn't it?
[07:07] <rahul_> m1r where r u stuck
[07:07] <razer> hhp2k: Well I don't know what hz and resolutions my monitor supports. I don't want to set that manually.
[07:07] <thep33t> so anyone here familiar w/ the Geforce Go 6150 on a AMD64 system?
[07:08] <razer> hhp2k: In freespire it always allowed me to set the resolution and hz with the gui.
[07:08] <m1r> merodent , rahul_ , same point, grub> (cant use quit/exit)
[07:08] <MasterShrek> thep33t, i am, exactly what im running
[07:08] <hhp2k> razer: If you supply me with your monitor's make and model number, I can find that information and we can set it up together.
[07:08] <gogeta> quick ban razer
[07:08] <jeff1212> has anyone in here used shred before?
[07:08] <lee__> has free spire..
[07:08] <gogeta> freespire
[07:08] <razer> hhp2k: ok
[07:08] <gogeta> yuck
[07:08] <lee__> don;'t use it though
[07:08] <mindrape> jeff1212 - man shred... it has all the info.
[07:08] <razer> hhp2k: On the front it says syncMaster 753DF
[07:08] <hhp2k> razer: normally when nothing else is wrong, that's the problem, so it's natural to go with that. Don't worry, it's a painless process. =)
[07:08] <jeff1212> mindrape: i have it dont say what i need?
[07:09] <lee__> as I can't seem to up grade with it to the newer version
[07:09] <m1r> <afk coffe
[07:09] <hhp2k> Samsung SyncMaster 753DF - Processing now
 merodent , rahul_ , same point, grub> (cant use quit/exit) i have no idea where u r stuck
[07:09] <gogeta> m1r why not use grub live cd reapre grub
[07:09] <hhp2k> razer: Funny, I have the same monitor sitting in front of me. =)
[07:09] <joseph> Anybody know if it is possible to get a HP Laptop with a broadcom internal wireless working with wpa and running ubuntu?
[07:09] <rahul_> elaborate
[07:09] <MeRodent> rahul_, he is in the grub command shell.
[07:09] <gogeta> m1r is linux only on the pen drive?
[07:09] <rahul_> i c
[07:09] <mattbot> Is there any way to tell when Ubuntu was installed on this machine? (its only been like a week)
[07:09] <rahul_> and what is he trying to do
[07:10] <lee__> if its made after 2005 or 6 probably yes
 rahul_, he is in the grub command shell ( and what is he trying to do )
[07:10] <mindrape> mattbot - you can ls -alh within a directory that hasn't been touched since installation.  :)
[07:10] <MeRodent> rahul_, reinstall the grub bootloader.
[07:10] <mattbot> good call, thanks
[07:10] <hhp2k> razer: Sync ranges acquired. Now, let's go through the step-by-step process. Open up a terminal and type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg".
[07:10] <jeff1212> mindrape: every command comes bck as failed to open for writing: No such file or directory
[07:10] <hhp2k> razer: inform me when you complete each step.
[07:10] <razer> hhp2k: wow thanks
[07:10] <gogeta> well if its on the pendrive he may have accdently installed it on hda1 making it crash
[07:10] <m1r> <back
[07:11] <mindrape> jeff1212 - thats the FBI screwing with your mind.
[07:11] <m1r> gogeta, do you understand the word laptop ?
[07:11] <CreativeEmbassy> can someone help me figure out why I have no web access?
[07:11] <roxygirl> hey, i'm havin troubles mounting devices.  it says i don't have permission to.  help anyone?
[07:11] <CreativeEmbassy> as in, I can talk on IRC
[07:11] <Kyokuz> getting raid working really really sucks
[07:11] <mindrape> roxygirl - sudo mount /dev/whatever /mnt/wherever
[07:11] <lee__> hmm looks like you have web access to me lol
[07:11] <gogeta> m1r what abought it
[07:11] <DerangedDingo> roxygirl: try sudo
[07:11] <CreativeEmbassy> but I can't see websites
[07:11] <MeRodent> m1r, try rebooting (though I'm not happy that it doesn't let you quit).
[07:12] <gogeta> m1r is linux on a pendrive or partationed
[07:12] <MeRodent> m1r, sorry. just thought of something.
[07:12] <lee__> sounds like you need a pw
[07:12] <joseph> I tried ndiswrapper and no luck on wireless funny thing is PCLinux os runs it fine
[07:12] <hhp2k> razer: Were you able to complete that last step?
[07:12] <razer> hhp2k: Ok, just did
[07:12] <MeRodent> m1r, did you start grub or sudo grub?
[07:12] <m1r> damn !"!
[07:12] <DerangedDingo> CreativeEmbassy: That's quite weird. I can only think of it being a browser issue but.. I've never heard of that
[07:12] <m1r> merodent , grub
[07:12] <razer> hhp2k: I completed the last setp, I can see the setup.
[07:13] <varka> joseph: what model number of broadcom chipset ?
[07:13] <MeRodent> m1r, hopefully that's your problem. Boot from livecd then sudo grub
[07:13] <m1r> Merodent :D
[07:13] <MeRodent> m1r, then run the commands.
[07:13] <joseph> I think it's the 4308
 ok where is mlr now
[07:13] <gogeta> well if he has the lve cd installer he can run the installer and updater
[07:13] <rahul_> quite form wat
[07:13] <gogeta> alt easer
[07:14] <joseph> Is there a command I can run from a terminal to get the broadcom chipset
[07:14] <razer> hhp2k: I have a geforce 2
[07:14] <rahul_> gogeta has a point for grub
[07:14] <rahul_> that's what i did
[07:14] <m1r> hmm
[07:14] <gogeta> grub install and grub update from term
[07:14] <jeff1212> mindrape: it comes back invalid file size
[07:14] <varka> joseph: you have ndiswrapper installed?
[07:14] <rahul_> all u have to do form their is change ur mapping and save and quite
[07:14] <MeRodent> rahul_, can you prefix with nicks so we know who you're talking to?
[07:14] <lee__> eh has any one mistakingly loaded the oem version off from the disk?
[07:15] <gogeta> probly just update sence its there
[07:15] <DerangedDingo> joseph: lshw should do it
[07:15] <rahul_> usere
[07:15] <rahul_> sure
[07:15] <hhp2k> razer: okay. You will be presented with a blue screen. Most of the values are set automatically, so you can press enter for the majority of this. If you can't press enter on some screens, press tab and then enter. When you are asked about your monitor, give the wizard the name of your monitor. When you are presented with a list of resolutions your monitor supports, go down the list and select everything from 1400 down using the spaceba
[07:15] <rahul_> u want him on
[07:15] <CreativeEmbassy> aha!
[07:15] <rahul_> he wont help u thought that's the only thing
[07:15] <m1r> oh good
[07:15] <CreativeEmbassy> turned off moblock
[07:15] <MeRodent> m1r, oh good what?
[07:16] <DerangedDingo> CreativeEmbassy: Yay
[07:16] <razer> hhp2k: Should I select nvidia or nv?
[07:16] <lee__> eh brb...
[07:16] <m1r> merodent , customer just called , he wont manage till 13:00
[07:16] <lee__> well in a bit.. ill be on as an oem if it works lol
[07:16] <hhp2k> razer: nv.
[07:16] <lee__> oh wait..
[07:16] <MeRodent> m1r, doesn't mean a lot to me as it's 4:16 pm here.
[07:16] <lee__> i do have a question
[07:16] <lee__> I used the update rom
[07:16] <pyrokid> ji
[07:17] <razer> hhp2k: oh thats good to know. Don't know what the other would have done
 i know this for sure that if u have live cd then use that to get grub
[07:17] <m1r> merodent , in live cd, i try again with sudo grub
[07:17] <joseph> Varka right now I'm running PCLinux os because it worked with the wireless I prefer ubuntu but can't get the wireless to work
[07:17] <rahul_> i've been doing that for last 4x
[07:17] <hhp2k> razer: =) let me know if you get stuck.
[07:17] <m1r> merodetn , is 7:15 here
[07:17] <lee__> and the only thing taht worked on the x update rom ws the OEM lol
[07:17] <roxygirl> mindrape: ok, but do i have to go through sudo everytime, isn't there a way for it to automatically mount?
[07:17] <gogeta> m1r easer rogut is running sudo grub-update
[07:17] <razer> hhp2k: It wants me to supply an identifier for my video card
[07:17] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, /etc/fstab
[07:17] <MeRodent> m1r, let me know if you can't remember the commands.
[07:17] <lee__> night masterschreck
[07:17] <hhp2k> razer: Give it the name of your card, the Geforce and model number.
 tell me something
[07:18] <razer> hhp2k: It doesn't matter if I don't know right?
[07:18] <m1r> merodent i never forget em
[07:18] <rahul_> about mlr
[07:18] <hhp2k> razer: Nope =)
[07:18] <razer> hhp2k: I think its geforce2
[07:18] <m1r> gogeta, k
[07:18] <hhp2k> razer: You can enter what you want, leaving it blank is fine too.
[07:18] <razer> hhp2k: it wasts to know the video card bus identifier.
[07:19] <varka> joseph: there is a linux driver for that type of chipset. i have a link to a detailed howto here, but in german :/. but its important for you to first uninstall ndiswrapper-utils and blacklist its kernel module
[07:19] <roxygirl> mastershrek: ya, what exactly do i do in /etc/fstab...i don't really know what i'm muckin around with
[07:19] <gogeta> m1r grub normaly borks if the partatin is changed
[07:19] <hhp2k> razer: Okay. Open up another terminal for me and type in that one "lspci | grep VGA".
[07:20] <hhp2k> razer: Tell me the first number output.
[07:20] <gogeta> m1r not normaly grub isself is bad but the menu/list is bad
[07:20] <m1r> gogeta, i had left usb hdd in while rebooting
[07:20] <gogeta> yea probly confused it
[07:20] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, dont change anything, just add to the end of it
[07:20] <MeRodent> gogeta, m1r hasn't got to the menu.lst he's still at stage 1
[07:20] <joseph> Where can I find info on blacklisting a kernel module
[07:20] <gogeta> yea
[07:20] <varka> joseph: type lspci in a terminal to see what type of broadcom you definately have
[07:20] <gogeta> i said it whent bad
[07:20] <razer> hhp2k: It says "01:00.0 , also says GeForce 2 MX/MX 400.
[07:20] <gogeta> acully
[07:20] <gogeta> he can get into it from the live cd
[07:21] <gogeta> just mount linux on the live cd
[07:21] <m1r> merodent , same
[07:21] <MeRodent> m1r, so you can't quit out of grub?
[07:21] <razer> hhp2k: "01:00.0"
[07:21] <hhp2k> okay. using that, go back to the terminal where we're configuring xorg.conf and type in "PCI:1:0:0".
[07:21] <gogeta> hes in live cd
[07:21] <m1r> yep
[07:22] <frostburn> joseph,$man modprobe.conf
[07:22] <gogeta> m1r you try grub install and grub update?
[07:22] <varka> joseph: after that, check if it is listet here. if it is, you are able to use the native linux driver instead of ndiswrapper crap
[07:22] <varka> joseph: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[07:22] <razer> hhp2k: It says amount of memory to be used by the video card.
[07:22] <m1r> gogeta no
[07:23] <MeRodent> m1r, I can't think of anything else. :(
[07:23] <gogeta> m1r worth a try sence you have live cd
[07:23] <roxygirl> mastershrek: it's a read-only file tho
[07:23] <hhp2k> razer: This can be left black.
[07:23] <hhp2k> *blank
[07:23] <razer> ok
[07:23] <m1r> merodent, many tnx m8
[07:23] <Caelum> a machine I'm trying to upgrade to feisty is refusing to boot with "mdadm: no devices listed were found" or something, is it safe to boot it with knoppix and remove the mdadm package?
[07:23] <razer> hhp2k: it asks use kernal framebuffer device interface?
[07:23] <razer> yes/no
[07:24] <hhp2k> razer: Whatever is selected is fine, just press enter.
[07:24] <gogeta> m1r i bet these 2 commands i told you will work
[07:24] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, sudo
[07:24] <MeRodent> m1r, good luck. Let me know how you fix it if you do and see me online.
[07:24] <m1r> ok, many tnx merodent
[07:24] <razer> autodetect keyboard?
[07:24] <m1r> gogeta, i try next run
[07:24] <roxygirl> mastershrek: how do i add to the end of the file in the terminal (sorry, all this terminal stuff is new to me)
[07:24] <gogeta> also
[07:24] <gogeta> !grub
[07:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:24] <razer> hhp2k: I think no
[07:24] <ik0n> Hi, I am very new to Linux.  I am looking for someplace to start to learn the fundamentals of working in the environment. (Example on how the file structure is setup vs Windows, beginners tips).  Is there a resource out there that is user friendly?
[07:24] <razer> hhp2k: for autodetect keyboard
[07:24] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:25] <hhp2k> razer: That's fine as well.
[07:25] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, i have no idea what you are trying to mount, else id be able to help you a little mroe lol
[07:25] <frostburn> ik0n, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[07:25] <m1r> gogeta
[07:25] <Kyokuz> aghhh why is my crom locked..? any ideas?
[07:25] <gogeta> yea
[07:26] <Kyokuz> cdrom*
[07:26] <m1r> gogeta, can i manualy edit menu.lst ?
[07:26] <razer> hhp2k: it wants to know my keyboard model
[07:26] <gogeta> from live cd
[07:26] <gogeta> yes
[07:26] <razer> hhp2k: it says pc105
[07:26] <roxygirl> mastershrek: i'm mounting an external hard drive
[07:26] <hhp2k> razer: That's fine.
[07:26] <gogeta> i beleve so
[07:26] <n2diy> Is there a way to determine how and why a ppp connection was derminated?
[07:26] <Caelum> ik0n: look at a bash or zsh tutorial to learn how to use the shell
[07:26] <MasterShrek> damn im fittin on goin to bed tho, roxygirl someone else can help you convert your 'mount' command to an fstab entry
[07:26] <MasterShrek> its not too difficult
[07:26] <razer> hhp2k: can I leave keyboard variant to blank?
[07:26] <Caelum> n2diy: see the pppd log
[07:26] <DerangedDingo> roxygirl: Can I be of assistance?
[07:26] <hhp2k> razer: Yes.
[07:27] <n2diy> derminated/terminated
[07:27] <razer> hhp2k: wants to know the mouse port
[07:27] <roxygirl> mastershrek:  thanks, you've been a huge help already
[07:27] <roxygirl> Dingo: yes...please!
[07:27] <hhp2k> razer: Press enter through that as well.
[07:27] <razer> hhp2k: and protocol as well?
[07:27] <roxygirl> Dingo: i'm in the nano, but haven't a clue what to do there
[07:28] <MeRodent> m1r, if you boot does the grub menu come up?
[07:28] <DerangedDingo> roxygirl: so you're trying to mount and external hard drive... and sudo mount /media/externalharddrive doesn't work?
[07:28] <hhp2k> razer: Yep =) Press enter, that value is predetermined.
[07:28] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, ill help u finish this up, paste your mount command here, the one u used to mount your hard drive
[07:28] <varka> ik0n: http://linux-for-beginners.blogspot.com/2006_05_31_linux-for-beginners_archive.html
[07:28] <n2diy> Caelum: roger, thanks.
[07:28] <MasterShrek> but then i have to get to bed lol
[07:28] <m1r> merodent: grub>
[07:29] <MeRodent> m1r, but not the boot loader?
[07:29] <DerangedDingo> roxygirl: Use the arrow keys to navigate in nano, and use Control + 0 to save, Control + X to exit, etc, etc
[07:29] <m1r> nope
[07:29] <m1r> merodent; says Grub loading, then goes grub>
[07:29] <razer> hhp2k: it wants to know the xorg modules to enable?
[07:29] <hhp2k> razer: What is selected is fine.
[07:30] <roxygirl> mastershrek: ok...in the anno, paste my mount command...hold on
[07:30] <MeRodent> if you run the livecd and mount the drives how many disks come up in places computer?
[07:30] <wolferine> anyone else use Azureus with a Linksys 54GL or 54G ?
[07:30] <m1r> merodent 4
[07:30] <razer> hhp2k: write default feiles section to config file yes/no?
[07:30] <n2diy> Caelum: I don't have any ppp logs, running Dapper.
[07:30] <MeRodent> m1r, what names?
[07:31] <hhp2k> razer: Yes.
[07:31] <m1r> merodent hda1 , 6, 7 ,8
[07:31] <razer> hhp2k: attempt monitor autodetection?
[07:31] <hhp2k> razer: Yes.
[07:31] <jewbilee> my friend just installed ubuntu on an external HDD and now when he went to reboot to into Ubuntu, he gets a grub error 21.  He has a RAID setup with vista as his main OS but now he cant even boot into that
[07:31] <jewbilee> can anyone help?
[07:31] <hhp2k> jewbilee: Ouch :P
[07:31] <jewbilee> ?
[07:31] <MeRodent> m1r, if you mount hda6 does it have a /boot/grub directory?
[07:31] <MasterShrek> jewbilee, that sounds messy
[07:32] <razer> hhp2k: Now it says video modes to be used by the X server.
[07:32] <jewbilee> yea, its turning out to be
[07:32] <jewbilee> any hints?
[07:32] <jewbilee> our main cocern is being able to boot back into vista
[07:32] <MasterShrek> not really, i dunno how raids work
[07:32] <jewbilee> we can use the ubuntu live cd to do any work
[07:32] <jewbilee> if needed
[07:32] <roxygirl> mastershrek: shit, i lost which command i used...best i can tell it's /media/My Book (the name of the device), but does that make sense?
[07:32] <m1r> merodent , let me check names, but i think is 6 ,7 ,8
[07:32] <hhp2k> razer: Select everything down the list starting with the values that begin with 1400. anything above 1400 is unsupported by your monitor.
[07:33] <DerangedDingo> roxygirl: mount /media/MyBook
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | roxygirl
[07:33] <ubotu> roxygirl: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:33] <ik0n> Thank you all.  :)
[07:33] <frostburn> roxygirl, Hit the up arrow in a console or take a look at ~/.bash_history
[07:33] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, thats the mount point, whats the device name? /dev/sd...
[07:33] <Bl0w_M0nk> hello hello
[07:33] <roxygirl> sorry!
[07:33] <razer> hhp2k: i pressed enter instead of space bar.
[07:33] <yoopernate2004> I'm using this command to back up my system: tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /  is it going to back up my /home directory too if i put that on a different partition?
[07:33] <razer> hhp2k: is there a way to go back?
[07:33] <jewbilee> Can anyone help with the problem i said?
[07:33] <frostburn> jewbilee, is grub on the raid partition?
[07:34] <Bl0w_M0nk> quick question  does this platform of linux wrk w voip
[07:34] <void^> jewbilee: you can't start an os on an external disk when booting internal disks usually. he has to restore the bootblock. i'm not sure how to do it on vista.
[07:34] <m1r> merodent , 5 ,6 ,7
[07:34] <hhp2k> razer: oops =) There isn't a way to go back, but it's okay, we'll re-do it. Everything you did up to this point can be passed through by pressing enter, so don't worry.
[07:34] <m1r> 5 is /boot
[07:34] <wolferine> Bl0w_M0nk, asterisk
[07:34] <nickrud> yoopernate2004: not sure, but you should add /dev to your excludes
[07:34] <hhp2k> razer: let's just keep going.
[07:34] <varka> ik0n: http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/official/
[07:34] <roxygirl> mastershrek, it's either /dev/sdb1   or /dev/sda2 or /dev/sda1...
[07:34] <MeRodent> m1r, if you mount 5 does it have a /boot/grub directory on it?
[07:34] <yoopernate2004> i was wondering about that...and i've heard both
[07:34] <Bl0w_M0nk> wolferine thanks
[07:34] <DerangedDingo> Bl0w_M0nk: There are VOIP clients for Linux
[07:34] <razer> hhp2k: method for selecting monitor simple/medium/advanced
[07:34] <yoopernate2004> whats the reason for adding it
[07:34] <jewbilee> We believe grub is on the raid partition, yes
[07:34] <m1r> merodent think so
[07:34] <hhp2k> razer: advanced. This is the part that we're here for.
[07:34] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, type: ls /dev/sd*
[07:34] <Bl0w_M0nk> som1 said centos was the platform to wrk w
[07:35] <nickrud> yoopernate2004: now adays it's dynamic. Used to be you had to add some nodes, so you'd save it. Not needed now
[07:35] <Bl0w_M0nk> then astrisk
[07:35] <wolferine> Bl0w_M0nk, thats for running your own server, if you just want a softphone, I recommend twinkle or ekiga
[07:35] <yoopernate2004> ah ok, that makes sense
[07:35] <razer> hhp2k: ok, monitor sync range.
[07:35] <MeRodent> m1r, if it does can you check for menu.lst in the dirctory?
[07:35] <Bl0w_M0nk> yup yup my own server
[07:35] <hhp2k> razer: is it asking for horizontal or vertical right now?
[07:35] <m1r> merodent , 1 min to boot live
[07:35] <razer> hhp2k: horizontal.
[07:35] <hhp2k> razer: enter "40-70"
[07:36] <Bl0w_M0nk> wolferine ubuntu wont wrk??
[07:36] <hhp2k> razer: without the quotation marks.
[07:36] <ubuntu_>  Flannel: ok now what i type to shred the hdd?
[07:36] <razer> hhp2k: Ok, I'm putting 40-70
[07:36] <wolferine> Bl0w_M0nk, question is what?
[07:36] <Bl0w_M0nk> hehehe
[07:36] <n2diy> razer ,hhp2k, don't over clock your verticial.
[07:36] <hhp2k> razer: perfect.
[07:36] <roxygirl> masterShrek: i get /dev/sda, sda1, sda2, sdb, sdb1, sdc, sdc1
[07:36] <hhp2k> n2diy: I'm selecting values from the monitor's manual, don't worry =)
[07:36] <razer> hhp2k: ok, what is the vertical?
[07:36] <razer> hhp2k: you mean leave it?
[07:36] <m1r> how come there is option rescue and no option for bootloader rescue on ubuntu :/
[07:36] <hhp2k> razer: 50-160.
[07:37] <Bl0w_M0nk> i was told use centos then asterisk
[07:37] <razer> 160 seems a little high
[07:37] <razer> but ok
[07:37] <wolferine> um
[07:37] <n2diy> razer ,hhp2k, correction, don't over clock your horz. Good luck.
[07:37] <wolferine> centos is an OS
[07:37] <Bl0w_M0nk> yup yup
[07:37] <hhp2k> Thank you n2diy
[07:37] <nickrud> m1r: because the bootloader bootstraps everything else
[07:37] <Bl0w_M0nk> i was asking does it matter wat platform
[07:37] <wolferine> your point is what exactly?
[07:37] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, im not really sure which one it is, cuz u have sdb1 and sdc1, i would assume sdc1 but i dont know for sure, it didnt auto-mount?
[07:37] <jewbilee> Can someone help me setup GRUB to work with my friends computer?
[07:37] <wolferine> I did not see you ask that question, until now
[07:37] <Bl0w_M0nk> im not that savy w linux
[07:37] <razer> hhp2k: it says write monitor sync ranges to conf file?
[07:37] <jewbilee> we really need to get this working
[07:37] <Bl0w_M0nk> lol
[07:37] <hhp2k> razer: select yes.
[07:37] <m1r> nickrud , can u explain ?
[07:38] <Bl0w_M0nk> im slow 2night
[07:38] <wolferine> your not savy with the English language either :)
[07:38] <Bl0w_M0nk> no coffee
[07:38] <razer> hhp2k: color depth 24?
[07:38] <roxygirl> mastershrek: it said that i didn't have priveledges to mount, until i used sudo
[07:38] <Bl0w_M0nk> 2 much slang
[07:38] <wolferine> good, you need the rest
[07:38] <hhp2k> razer: yep
[07:38] <roxygirl> mastershrek: but i've lost which sudo
[07:38] <razer> hhp2k: Ok, it is done.
[07:38] <MasterShrek> i know roxygirl, are you running 7.04?
[07:38] <Bl0w_M0nk> anyway do think it doesnt matter w OS to use w asterisk
[07:38] <hhp2k> razer: Okay, we're not finished yet. We have to re-do the process and select those video modes.
[07:38] <nickrud> m1r: the bios reads the mbr of the first hard drive in order to know how to boot the operating system. No bootloader on the mbr, nothing will load an os
[07:39] <m1r> MeRodent: now it didnt mount any hd's
[07:39] <hhp2k> So in the terminal, press the up arrow button, and your previous command should appear.
[07:39] <wolferine> Bl0w_M0nk, im no genius, but your asking in another OSes channel, and some suggested Asterisk, you put two and two together
[07:39] <Bl0w_M0nk> im trying to be lasy and use an os thats not going shoot myself in the foot/head :-(
[07:39] <MeRodent> m1r, if you choose places computer?
[07:39] <nickrud> m1r: mbr is master boot record. That's where the bootloader lives
[07:39] <Bl0w_M0nk> is that in here?
[07:39] <hhp2k> If "lspci | grep VGA" appears, press the up arrow button one more time.
[07:39] <Bl0w_M0nk> well not here
[07:39] <wolferine> ill do it for you, if need be
[07:39] <Bl0w_M0nk> plz help
[07:40] <m1r> nickrud, i know that part, but what is bootstrap ?
[07:40] <Bl0w_M0nk> :-))
[07:40] <ce_muse_17> chaca
[07:40] <Pirate_Hunter> is gnome 2.20 being released on Gutsy or can it be used with Feisty as well?
[07:40] <Bl0w_M0nk> im sorry im listening to the pirate story off cuba
[07:40] <nickrud> m1r: start from scratch. Comes from the phrase, 'lift yourself by your bootstraps' , the little loops on the top of a pair of boots
[07:40] <Bl0w_M0nk> walk the plank
[07:40] <wolferine> u obviously suffer from ADD
[07:40] <Bl0w_M0nk> LOL
[07:40] <wolferine> maybe you might want to hit up google
[07:40] <Bl0w_M0nk> ya think
[07:40] <m1r> nickrud , tnx
[07:41] <mistone> I cant wait for gutsy
[07:41] <hhp2k> wolferine, Bl0w_M0nk: Not in here please.
[07:41] <Stinkfly> hi
[07:41] <Bl0w_M0nk> for th asterisk channel
[07:41] <Pirate_Hunter> is gnome 2.20 being released on Gutsy or can it be used with Feisty as well?
[07:41] <m1r> merodent, yes i can see menu.lst
[07:41] <Bl0w_M0nk> hhp2k wat?
[07:41] <n2diy> Bl0w_M0nk: where are you listening to the pirates?
[07:41] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: if you feel like compiling the whole thing, you can use it on Feisty
[07:41] <gnomefreak> Pirate_Hunter: gutsy only
[07:41] <hhp2k> razer: Were you able to locate the command or do you want me to give it to you again?
[07:41] <Bl0w_M0nk> heheh
[07:41] <wolferine> !offtopic
[07:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:41] <Bl0w_M0nk> THey lied!!!!
[07:42] <Pirate_Hunter> gnomefreak: thanx
[07:42] <gnomefreak> np
[07:42] <Bl0w_M0nk> it was sponge bob
[07:42] <razer> hhp2k: the reconfigure command was there and I hit enter. It said overwriting and that was it.
[07:42] <MeRodent> m1r, lets have a look at it.
[07:42] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: 0_o??? nah I'll wait lol
[07:42] <razer> hhp2k: and it said it put a backup in a path
[07:42] <hhp2k> razer: Okay, let's enter it one more time: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:42] <Bl0w_M0nk> anyway
[07:43] <gnomefreak> Bl0w_M0nk: join #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat
[07:43] <razer> hhp2k: ok that time it started
[07:43] <Bl0w_M0nk> np
[07:43] <m1r> merodent ,sec to check it
[07:43] <Bl0w_M0nk> lokking for channel w astersik
[07:43] <razer> hhp2k: So I just go through again?
[07:43] <wolferine> maybe try #asterisk
[07:43] <wolferine> your really lacking any sort of intellience tonight
[07:43] <hhp2k> razer: Good =) Now we can just skip most of what we went through last time, and head straight to the video mode section again. From there, we'll have to re-enter the sync values.
[07:44] <Madpilot> Bl0w_M0nk, how about #asterisk
[07:44] <Pirate_Hunter> is 2GB ok to run compizdusion in ubuntu and all its effects?
[07:44] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: yeah, that's why I use ubuntu also :)
[07:44] <m1r> merodent, seems ok
[07:44] <Madpilot> (check spelling of that...)
[07:44] <wolferine> I wont really recommend going into that channel if your acting like this
[07:44] <hhp2k> Pirate_Hunter: Definitely.
[07:44] <Bl0w_M0nk> no go
[07:44] <razer> hhp2k: by skip you mean just hit enter?
[07:44] <hhp2k> razer: Yes.
[07:44] <razer> hhp2k: and it will be the same position as I put in before?
[07:44] <hhp2k> razer: Yep. if there's anything you're not sure about, ask me.
[07:44] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: lol I would thought you wouldve used it for the stability, security etc but it seems compiz is what got you lol
[07:44] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: it's not the amount of memory, it's having the right video card.
[07:44] <Bl0w_M0nk> lol i did look up google  my main question would it matter wat platform i would have for the server
[07:45] <MeRodent> m1r, the linux choices have root (hd0,5) ?
[07:45] <hhp2k> nickrud: That too =)
[07:45] <m1r> merodent , yes
[07:45] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: nah, I used to compile everything from scratch. Then I found debian :)
[07:45] <roxygirl> mastershrek: yes
[07:45] <roxygirl> mastershrek: ok, i think it's sda2
[07:45] <roxygirl> mastershrek: now, i just copy that into the nano?
[07:45] <m1r> and win has hd0,0
[07:45] <Bl0w_M0nk> to wrk w asterisk
[07:45] <roxygirl> mastershrek:  sorry, bad internet connection
[07:45] <MeRodent> m1r, still can't see anything that's wrong. :(
[07:45] <Tech-Mike> any apps for avi or mpg to dvd?
[07:45] <razer> hhp2k: ok, I'm at resolutions, do I use space bar to select them?
[07:46] <m1r> merodent, i cant belive that USB can cause such problem
[07:46] <hhp2k> razer: Yes.
[07:46] <roxygirl> mastershrek:  you still there?
[07:46] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: erh that can be tricky this comp still uses default graphics card and it all ive needed till now... yeah debian where would we be without it
[07:46] <razer> hhp2: do I use 1440 and below or 1400 and below?
[07:46] <hhp2k> razer: At the bottom of the list, 1024x768, 800x600 & 640x480 are already selected, make sure you don't deselect them =) 1440 and below.
[07:46] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: true. As long as it's an intel(?) or for sure an nvidia, you're good to go
[07:47] <razer> hhp2k: ok I selected all of that.
[07:47] <hhp2k> razer: Great. Let's move on to the Sync ranges again and I'll give you the values one more time.
[07:47] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: wnna help me install compiz right now :)
[07:47] <razer> hhp2k: ok horizontal.
[07:48] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: *wanna
[07:48] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: I have ati, I've never been able to use compiz
[07:48] <hhp2k> razer: Horizontal sync range: 40-70
[07:48] <GNine> compiz is offtopic here
[07:48] <razer> hhp2k: veritical.
[07:48] <GNine> i is here
[07:48] <hhp2k> Pirate_Hunter: Head to #compiz-fusion for help there.
[07:48] <hhp2k> razer: 50-160.
[07:49] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: you lied to me and I thought we had soemthing special lol
[07:49] <hhp2k> nickrud: Poor you :P
[07:49] <Pirate_Hunter> hhp2k: kk
[07:49] <razer> hhp2: write to file?
[07:49] <hhp2k> razer: yes.
[07:49] <frostburn> nickrud, fear not, there should be some awesome ati drivers coming out soon since amd open sourced them
[07:49] <razer> hhp2k: ok , done
[07:49] <hhp2k> Okay =)
[07:49] <nickrud> frostburn: I'm burning for the day :)
[07:50] <Bl0w_M0nk> wolferine thanks  forgot to register
[07:50] <hhp2k> razer: now, in order for these changes to take effect you must disconnect and re-login. When you're ready to do that, press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. It will reboot your session (not the computer) and present you with your login screen. From there, see if you can change your resolution. If you can't, come back here and we'll see what else might be wrong.
[07:50] <Bl0w_M0nk> lol
[07:51] <hhp2k> GNine: How is it?
[07:51] <m1r> sexy gutsy
[07:51] <GNine> smooth. on my end
[07:51] <hhp2k> GNine: is it much different than fiesty?
[07:51] <nickrud> Gutsy's networkmanager is sooooooooooooooooo much better
[07:51] <hhp2k> mmm, that's what I want to head
[07:51] <hhp2k> *hear
[07:52] <hhp2k> .. not head :P
[07:52] <GNine> i wouldnt say so, on the surface.  but .. if you start considering certain things.. it is above Feisty
[07:52] <razer> hhp2k: the screen went black.
[07:52] <benny_> holly crap batman.. this channel is huge!
[07:52] <hhp2k> razer: Were you able to log back in?
[07:52] <razer> hhp2k: there is no text. Just a black screen.
[07:53] <n2diy> benny_: this slow!
[07:53] <hhp2k> razer: How long has it been sitting there?
[07:53] <m1r> <goes gutsy
[07:53] <nickrud> benny_: and it's running about 15% less than I've seen
[07:53] <razer> hhp2k: almost a minute
[07:53] <titun> i have downloaded my local language pack. how do i enable it now?
[07:53] <n2diy> benny_: this _is_ slow!
[07:54] <nickrud> titun: system-admin-language support
[07:54] <hhp2k> razer: Reboot the computer and try it again. If it happens again, press ESC when the BIOS says it's loading GRUB and select recovery mode.
[07:54] <benny_> bit of a lag ey..
[07:54] <GNine> right now gutsy is a matter of choice.  i say, go gutsy if you are mentally ready for it.  aka .. not for noobs ... yet
[07:54] <razer> hhp2k: It never said any of that.
[07:54] <benny_> so who's running beta?
[07:54] <benny_> gutsy?
[07:54] <oem> its me lee lol
[07:54] <frostburn> benny_, everyone in #ubuntu+1 =P
[07:54] <oem> Is running unbutu in OEM
[07:55] <m1r> <ubuntu and +1 in 20 min or so
[07:55] <hhp2k> razer: When the computer boots, just before it loads GRUB it allows you to select the type of OS mode you'd like by pressing escape. Look for that (it only appears briefly) and hit esc quickly to enter that mode selection.
[07:55] <titun> nickrud: yes i have enabled my local language, also English is checked...do i have to reboot to see the changes?
[07:55] <oem> eh i have to do something while its up dating
[07:55] <n2diy> mir, u4mir have any meaning to you?
[07:55] <nickrud> titun: possibly just log out and back in
[07:55] <m1r> n2diy, not really
[07:55] <oem> hey nickrud
[07:56] <titun> nickrud: ok
[07:56] <nickrud> oem: hello
[07:56] <n2diy> mir, ok.
[07:56] <oem> its me lee lol
[07:56] <tropcky> hi all
[07:56] <tropcky> need help here
[07:56] <m1r> n2diy : I = 1 :P
[07:56] <MasterShrek> !ask
[07:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:56] <oem> this is the mode that would work in Unbutu X form the cd
[07:56] <tropcky> oky
[07:56] <Jordan_U> tropcky, Just ask :)
[07:56] <nickrud> oem: ah, hi lee__ :) How'd things go, I hated to drop out like that yesterday
[07:56] <hhp2k> razer: we need to enter recovery mode to access a text-only version of Ubuntu so we can reconfiure xorg one more time.
[07:56] <MasterShrek> roxygirl, its probably not sda2
[07:56] <razer> hhp2k: ok, I seleced recover mode.
[07:57] <razer> hp2k: its printing text to the screen.
[07:57] <tropcky> after i install the last update the system become so dem slow in evry thing  and slow as hell in start up
[07:57] <homekevin> Hey, X is using over a gig of memory here after being running only a day. Is there a known issue with any recent updates?
[07:57] <nickrud> oem: herm, that was iamollie or something, sorry
[07:57] <nickrud> homekevin: is that the sum of all the X processes, or the value of each process?
[07:58] <GNine> u can reconf xorg from terminal .. its safer
[07:58] <ubuntu_01d> can anyone help shed some light on this error from lilo   "Floating point exception" ?
[07:58] <hhp2k> razer: Excellent. Once you're at the command line, login and then try the command "gdm". Your screen will flash, and if the terminal tells you in a blue screen that it failed to load the X-Server, choose to see the xorg.conf log file output. Scroll to the bottom of that output and see what the error it says is.
[07:58] <n2diy> mir, ?
[07:58] <tropcky> any one ?
[07:58] <ubuntu_01d> i need to update the mbr  because of disk drive changes   but i can't get lilo to run without erroring out on    Floating point exception
[07:58] <razer> hp2k: don't worry if its messed up. I'll just reinstall. But... It says can't accesss tty; job control turned off. and it doesn't go any further.
[07:58] <homekevin> It's the actual X process
[07:58] <homekevin> /usr/X11R6/bin/X
[07:58] <razer> hhp2k: it is at (initramfs) and a curser where I can type
[07:58] <oem> oh it went fine.. I just tried a few things with tht ISO that I burned frox nickrud, its really buggy if you let it auto sense you monitor, so (oh lol) waht I did was chagne the monitor settings befor loading and had a clean drive and here it is..now should I poke this onething taht ays
[07:59] <hhp2k> razer: Hm, that's a different issue I'm not sure about.. might require a reinstall, but let's just try what I've got now if you're at the command line.
[07:59] <n2diy> lilo?
[07:59] <nickrud> oem: ah, ok.
[07:59] <oem> waht it mean prepeare for shipping to end user?
[07:59] <razer> hhp2k: I don't think its a real command line. Just a curser where I can type text.
[07:59] <benny_> anyone using Konversation?  how do I turn off the stupid "has joined/left" messages.. sorry IRC n00b.
[07:59] <ubuntu_01d> razer you only need to mount the root fs and exit the busybox shell   then rebuild the initramfs.img
[07:59] <oem> eh anyone?
[08:00] <hhp2k> razer: oh, that's not it. Try pressing Ctrl-C. If that doesn't work, reboot again and select recovery mode once more, and tell me what happens.
[08:00] <Jordan_U> benny_, More likely that someone in #kubuntu would know
[08:00] <nickrud> oem: on the boot disk? I think thats something for original equipment manufacturers to customize an install. Not sure, though
[08:00] <ubuntu_01d> razer however mounting the root fs  may be tricky
[08:00] <oem> I have an icon tht says prepare for shipping to end user
[08:00] <oem> eh eh um eh er
[08:00] <hhp2k> ubuntu_01d: We're not trying to do that, don't worry.
[08:01] <oem> eh it was th eo nly workable format
[08:01] <ubuntu_01d> hhp2k you don't want it to boot ?
[08:01] <nickrud> oem: like clear the user name and password, so on reboot it will ask
[08:01] <n2diy> oem: what OS are you playing with ?
[08:01] <oem> eh
[08:01] <razer> hhp2k: Ok this time I got a real prompt.
[08:01] <oem> just the download of x tahts all
[08:02] <oem> came with the download
[08:02] <xTheGoat121x> Evening all
[08:02] <n2diy> oem: Ubuntu doesn't use lilo, what OS are you playing with ?
[08:02] <oem> Ubuntu X
[08:02] <nickrud> hi xTheGoat121x
[08:02] <hhp2k> ubuntu_01d: We're reconfiguring the xorg.conf file for his sync ranges because he can't get higher than 1024, but the recon borked his system, so we're entering recovery mode to do it again.
[08:02] <oem> Would you like to havea looksy?
[08:02] <ubuntu_01d> n2diy ubuntu can use lilo
[08:02] <oem> I normally dont let any on in my sytem but this time around lol
[08:03] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, what' new this evening?  Any interesting problems
[08:03] <oem> For real I am using Ubuntu X
[08:03] <hhp2k> razer: Okay. Try the gdm command and see what happens.
[08:03] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x: nah, it's busy but quiet
[08:03] <Jordan_U> oem, Ubuntu X ? You mean Xubuntu?
[08:03] <oem> waht gdm cmnd?
[08:03] <m1r> xbox ubuntu ?
[08:03] <oem> no
[08:03] <MasterShrek> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:03] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, I gotcha
[08:03] <oem> its running on my PC
[08:04] <marvin_> helllo
[08:04] <Kud> o/
[08:04] <n2diy> oem: ubuntu_01d yes it can, but it isn't standard, so help here will be difficult for it.
[08:04] <Jordan_U> oem, Do you happen to have a link to the website for "Ubuntu X"?
[08:04] <ubuntu_01d> well anyway.    can someone at least make an educated guess at the   "Floating point exception"     error ?
[08:04] <razer> hhp2k: gdm command. you mean the reconfigure?
[08:04] <oem> I have everything yes
[08:04] <oem> well it only does a partial up grade in this mode
[08:05] <oem> and about 4,400 files worth of updates too
[08:05] <frostburn> ubuntu_01d, depends on the context
[08:05] <hhp2k> razer: Well, before we do that I'd like to see if the reconfigure we had done actually worked, and your system refused to start for some other reason. Type "gdm" in the command line and see what happens - that's Graphic Display Manager, and it should load your ubuntu login screen up.
[08:05] <ubuntu_01d> frostburn i'll repost.
[08:05] <oem> eh I downloaed it 4days ago
[08:05] <ubuntu_01d> can anyone help shed some light on this error from lilo   "Floating point exception" ?
[08:05] <oem> form ubunto
[08:05] <oem> eh ubuntu
[08:05] <MasterShrek> hhp2k, Gnome Display Manager *** :)
[08:06] <oem> just asec rbr dog
[08:06] <razer> hhp2k: the reoslution looks different.
[08:06] <hhp2k> razer: If it doesn't, it'll give you a blue screen with an option to see the logfile output - let's see the end of that output to determine the error so we can fix it.
[08:06] <spa_light> Hi all
[08:06] <hhp2k> MasterShrek: Thank you :)
[08:06] <razer> hhp2k: error window: failed to initialize HAL
[08:06] <hhp2k> razer: Did gdm start?
[08:06] <spa_light> Is anyone else experiencing problems with the ubuntu homepage? To me It looks like they have no CSS in place.
[08:06] <MasterShrek> ugh, i hate hal problems
[08:06] <ubuntu_01d> frostburn   i need to update the mbr  because of disk drive changes   but i can't get lilo to run without erroring out on    Floating point exception
[08:07] <hhp2k> spa_light: No problems here.
[08:07] <frostburn> ubuntu_01d, any reason why you're using lilo instead of grub?  i've only used lilo once, long ago
[08:07] <MasterShrek> ubuntu_01d, you need to run /sbin/lilo from the partition with lilo installed, and the /etc/lilo.conf
[08:07] <razer> hhp2k: yes, but the resolution is out of ratio and my curser scrolls over a larger virtual desktop off screen.
[08:07] <MasterShrek> which means if u cant boot it now, you have to boot a livecd and use chroot
[08:07] <ubuntu_01d> frostburn yes   no partitions
[08:07] <coucou747> hi all
[08:07] <spa_light> hhp2k: I can reproduce the problem on Firefox as well as Konqueror.
[08:07] <spa_light> hhp2k: strange ...
[08:07] <hhp2k> razer: Interesting. Try to log in if you can, and set your resolution. Also try to adjust your monitor settings, because they for sure went out of whack as well.
[08:08] <stefmax> Nice. Dual boot install was successful with the beta :)
[08:08] <hhp2k> spa_light: *shrug* Odd indeed.
[08:08] <ubuntu_01d> MasterShrek heh   i don't have any partitions.   and this is the running system.   it just errors out with    Floating point exception
[08:08] <oem> ok i am back
[08:08] <spa_light> Anyway. I am looking for a way to watch DVDs under 7.10 (gutsy). Is there a repo with the deCSS libs somewhere or do I have to install them manually? I cannot get to the help pages :(
[08:08] <sadmin> hi all
[08:08] <oem> it is gutsy
[08:09] <sadmin> i install ubuntu with ldap
[08:09] <razer> hhp2k: oh, default resolution was 1440x1024 on my 17 inch screen so it had me scrolling over a larger virtual desktop.
[08:09] <oem> so what is it that Iam looking for that shows me waht this thing is?
[08:09] <sadmin> my users a login through ldap all good
[08:09] <hhp2k> razer: That would be it :)
[08:09] <Jordan_U> oem, Read the channel topic
[08:09] <sadmin> now i want as my user login for 1 time ubuntu ask for passwd change and every 2 month it says change ur passwd
[08:09] <sadmin> how i do that
[08:09] <sadmin> also i want 3 old passwd history
[08:09] <ArmedKing> !tell oem about !Gutsy
[08:10] <razer> hhp2k: I'm at 1024x768, but it won't go above 60hz. Is that all this monitor can do at that rez?
[08:10] <sadmin> any idea
[08:10] <roxygirl> mastershrek:  thanks! i've got it figured out
[08:10] <oem> its says official Ubuntu support channel please be patient and read the faq
[08:10] <n2diy> sadmin: passwd username
[08:10] <hhp2k> razer: Unfortunately I have that problem as well, I'm not sure how to achieve higher refresh rates for certain resolutions.
[08:10] <Jordan_U> sadmin, Possibly #ldap
[08:10] <ArmedKing> oem; Sigh, Gutsy support is in Ubuntu+1
[08:11] <Jordan_U> oem, Gutsy is not supported, Beta testers should join #ubuntu+1
[08:11] <hhp2k> razer: But otherwise, are you able to get the resolution you wanted?
[08:11] <oem> erg why it spit me here then?
[08:11] <razer> hhp2k: that ma be al this monitor can do at this rez.
[08:11] <jamisnemo> What function sets which daemons start on boot?
[08:11] <ArmedKing> oem: Because Gutsy is still beta
[08:11] <razer> hhp2k: I can go higher than 1024 yes
[08:11] <hhp2k> razer: That's possible as well.
[08:11] <oem> ah ty sorry it was the machine that sent me here
[08:11] <hhp2k> razer: Good =)
[08:11] <Flannel> !init | jamisnemo
[08:11] <ubotu> jamisnemo: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:11] <n2diy> jamisnemo: init.d
[08:11] <ArmedKing> oem: No problem m8
[08:11] <jamisnemo> alright thanks
[08:12] <oem> its flat emoty lol
[08:12] <spa_light> !decss
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about decss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <spa_light> !dvd
[08:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:12] <razer> hhp2k: it says my nvidia acceleration is not in use under restricted drivers.
[08:13] <hhp2k> razer: System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager
[08:13] <oem> oh well forget the support...I'll just poke the button and see waht happens lol
[08:13] <razer> hhp2k: yeah I'm there. should I enable it?
[08:13] <hhp2k> razer: You'll find your nVidia driver in the list, click the check box. It'll start installing.
[08:13] <razer> hhp2k: I used the nvidia driver from nvidia.com
[08:13] <hhp2k> razer: That'll increase your video performance to the expected level.
[08:13] <razer> hhp2k: I compiled and installed the driver from nvidia.com not the x.org one.
[08:13] <hhp2k> razer: Yeah, just use the one in the Manager. Lot easier =)
[08:13] <razer> hhp2k: Which of those two drivers should I be using.
[08:13] <ubuntu_old> sorry; i lost connection.
[08:14] <ubuntu_old> "Floating point exception"  ???
[08:14] <hhp2k> razer: are there two in the list for the Restricted Drivers Manager?
[08:14] <razer> hhp2k: is it ok to install the manager one now that I have the nvidia one?
[08:14] <jamisnemo> So if I don't want a daemon to run on boot I just set -x on the script in /etc/init.d/,  Correct?
[08:14] <razer> hhp2k: no
[08:14] <Shrimpy_> an ati radion 9000 is a 128mb?
[08:14] <hhp2k> razer: It should be okay.
[08:14] <jamisnemo> or is there a more official way to turn that script off?
[08:14] <razer> hhp2k: But I still have to go under restrt?icted drivers after that right and enable it righ
[08:15] <ubuntu_old> jamisnemo "set -x"  ???
[08:15] <hhp2k> razer: Here's how we can test that though. Try running a graphics-intensive screensaver and see if it runs fast.
[08:15] <n2diy> jamisnemo: comment it out?
[08:15] <hhp2k> razer: If it does, then you should be fine.
[08:15] <jamisnemo> chmod -x apache2  for example
[08:15] <ubuntu_old> jamisnemo "set -x"  in a bash script is for debugging
[08:15] <hhp2k> spa_light: I'm getting loopback errors on the ubuntu website.. server might be having issues
[08:15] <jamisnemo> n2diy: comment it out from where?
[08:16] <n2diy> jamisnemo: in the script file.
[08:16] <Kyokuz> how big should my extended and swap partitions be if my drive is 465GB?
[08:16] <wm_eddie> Kyokuz: How much ram do you have?
[08:16] <xTheGoat121x> Is there a way to end a startup .sh script so I don't have it sitting, zombie like, in my system resources?
[08:16] <dave27> hi
[08:16] <Kyokuz> 2GB
[08:16] <Caelum> I tried to upgrade a machine to feisty, now it's stuck at "Loading please wait..." what do I do?
[08:16] <ubuntu_old> jamisnemo oh.  you mean make it not executable.   no there is a more official way.   man update-rc.d
[08:16] <administrator> 1651
[08:16] <n2diy> Caelum: wait?
[08:16] <wm_eddie> Kyokuz: 2 to 4 would be good then.
[08:17] <ubuntu_old> jamisnemo oh.  or that may even be outdated...
[08:17] <wm_eddie> or less if you don't need it.
[08:17] <jamisnemo> ubuntu_old: hrm
[08:17] <Kyokuz> ok cool, thanks
[08:17] <Caelum> n2diy: tried that
[08:17] <razer>  hhp2k: ok, I ran he x.org legacy driver from the manager and now enabled it in restricted drivers.
[08:17] <razer> hhp2k: it says computer needs restart.
[08:17] <tr0gd0r> anyway to get my network interface to get more than 1 ip from dhcp?
[08:18] <ubuntu_old> jamisnemo however just making it non-executable should work.    and the right way is the way that you choose
[08:18] <n2diy> Caelum: then maybe some boot options, like nodma?
[08:18] <hhp2k> razer: Okay. Go ahead and restart it, it should be fine. If it refuses to start though, you may need to redo that xorg configuration again. If you need the monitor values, go to http://www.ciao.co.uk/Samsung_SyncMaster_753_DF__5392818. I have to leave, so good luck =)
[08:18] <jamisnemo> ubuntu_old: Alrighty thanks.
[08:18] <Kud> what's the ew channel for beryl support?
[08:18] <Kud> new*
[08:18] <razer> hhp2k: ok, thanks a lot
[08:18] <razer> hhp2k: you are a good person
[08:18] <hhp2k> razer: You're welcome, thank you =D
[08:18] <ubuntu_old> so i need a lilo guru    of a general linux guru.    lilo error  "Floating point exception"
[08:19] <MeRodent> Kud, #compiz-fusion
[08:19] <Kud> ty
[08:20] <MasterShrek> ubuntu_01d, check in #slackware cuz slack uses lilo, they would probably have a better idea
[08:20] <n2diy> ubuntu_old: you might have better luck in #ubuntu-kernel?
[08:20] <dissecti1n> When I insert CDs, it does not get mounted. When I click on the CD-ROM icon in "Computer", a window pops up saying, "Unable to mount selected volume. mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist". How do I fix this?
[08:21] <yoopernate2004> dissecti1n: have you tried to manually mount the cd in the commandline?
[08:21] <dissecti1n> yoopernate2004: how do I do that?
[08:21] <Dark> Hello all.
[08:22] <xTheGoat121x> evenin dark
[08:22] <yoopernate2004> sudo mount /dev/cdrom and then the path you want to mount it to normally like /media/cdrom
[08:22] <Bars-Teic> !ru
[08:22] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:23] <xTheGoat121x> whoa.... ubotu just freaked out on us
[08:23] <dissecti1n> yoopernate2004: It says /dev/cdrom does not exist
[08:23] <druke> what channel is linuxmce at?
[08:23] <yoopernate2004> do you know the path name to your cdrom drive?
[08:24] <hhp2k> xTheGoat121x: Yeah.. that was pretty awesome.
[08:24] <xTheGoat121x> hhp2k, I didn't know he could speak Russian
[08:24] <dissecti1n> yoopernate2004: Nope
[08:24] <hhp2k> xTheGoat121x: me neither
[08:24] <yoopernate2004> ls
[08:24] <yoopernate2004> oops
[08:25] <xTheGoat121x> hhp2k, I wonder what other languages he can speak?  hehe
[08:25] <sadmin> n2diy i want passwd change at time of 1 login
[08:25] <sadmin> and prompt again afetr 2 months to change passwd
[08:25] <sadmin> any idea
[08:26] <sadmin> we can do it in ubuntu thats confirmed
[08:26] <Dark> Is there a way to select what Video card I would like to use for the install of Ubuntu? Cant disable onboard. No jumpers, or xp os, or bios option. So is there a way to change the card in the xserver?
[08:26] <yoopernate2004> ok cd into your media directory and see if you can see any cdrom drives?
[08:26] <druke> I am running a dhcp server on a box. said box has two ethernet cards and internet goes though the other one. When i go to plug my laptop into the slot dhcp is running on though, nothing happens, my laptops light doesn't come on or anything to detect the cord. (I know the cord works b/c i can plug it into my router and the lights come on)
[08:27] <n2diy> sadmin: so you want the passwd to change every two months?
[08:27] <eck> Dark: you should change it in the xserver
[08:27] <eck> Dark: just add the card and change your screne layout to use that card instead
[08:27] <eck> afaik you can't do it during the install
[08:27] <Jordan_U> Dark, I know this doesn't help much but  I know there is a way, I just don't know how :(
[08:27] <sadmin> yes when user login ubuntu says 50 day remains to passwd expire
[08:27] <Dark> Eck: Whats the command to show the pci bus info?
[08:27] <eck> Dark: lspci
[08:28] <Dark> ok so it is the ssame as others ty
[08:28] <n2diy> sadmin: so your good to go! Or do you want it to change for every log in?
[08:28] <Wolf23> somebody help me!
[08:29] <sadmin> no no not on every login
[08:29] <sadmin> on 1 login and then after 2 month it prompt to change passwd
[08:29] <sadmin> and maintain 3 good passwd history
[08:29] <n2diy> sadmin: include my nick when you reply, or my bell won't ring, and I'll miss it.
[08:29] <dissecti2n> yoopernate2004: There is cdrom and cdrom0
[08:30] <frostburn> dissecti2n, cdrom0 is a symlink to cdrom
[08:30] <frostburn> or vise versa
[08:30] <TnA> I need help.
[08:30] <Frostex> Hi there, how can i force mount my drive with -ntsf. it is saying it cannot read the filesystem type. but i know it was formatted NTSF
[08:30] <dissecti2n> frostburn: Neither of them have any files in them
[08:31] <frostburn> dissecti2n, your cd isn't mounted then
[08:31] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me get compiz running the desktop effect can't be enabled and i dont know why
[08:31] <dissecti2n> frostburn: How do I mount?
[08:31] <Pirate_Hunter> PS: the compiz channel has many ppl but no one actually the :(
[08:31] <TnA> Okay heres the situation I'm using the alternate feisty fawn cd to upgrade my ubuntu, I placed the CD in and the update manager opened, now it's installing and removing software. What software? Is that the upgrade?
[08:32] <dissecti2n> frostburn: I typed sudo mount /media/cdrom and it says its not found in /etc/fstab
[08:32] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, Do you get an error?
[08:32] <yoopernate2004> TnA: when the cd gets done you should have the upgrade
[08:32] <frostburn> dissecti2n, most commands are in $man mount,  but for a cd $mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[08:32] <yoopernate2004> SHOULD being the key phrase in there
[08:32] <TnA> yoopernate2004, It's that easy?!?!
[08:32] <yoopernate2004> generally
[08:32] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: everytime I try to enable desktop effects it just gives me it cnat be enabled which is weird
[08:32] <TnA> OMFG I LOVE IT!
[08:32] <yoopernate2004> ubuntu = the much better than windows
[08:32] <Caelum> was I not supposed to upgrade to feisty by using apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:33] <Frostex> Ok, how can i force mount my drive NTSF, it is saying it cannot read the filesystem type. but i know it was formated NTSF ages ago
[08:33] <frostburn> dissecti2n, you have to tell mount where the device is located /dev/cdrom then tell it where to mount the file system, in this case /media/cdrom
[08:33] <tafkaz> hi there. I am trying to install ubuntu-feisty server on a computer with an ASUS M2N-VM DVI Motherboard. directly at the beginning (after the language option) it tells me, that it cannot find my cdrom. My DVD is a SATA-Samsung DVDR
[08:33] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, Nothing else to the error? just "Can't enable desktop effects" ?
[08:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: yup thats all it shows nothing more
[08:33] <dissecti2n> frostburn: Tried that, and it says special device /dev/cdrom does not exist
[08:34] <TnA> Anyone know if ubuntu is supporting drivers for the xbox360 console systems yet?
[08:34] <frostburn> dissecti2n, it might be /dev/cdr
[08:34] <yoopernate2004> dissecti2n: are you on a laptop or desktop?
[08:34] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: is it normal for the upgrade manager to be showing the same upgrade that i have installed 3 times i.e. compiz-core
[08:34] <dissecti2n> yoopernate2004: That doesn't exist either
[08:35] <yoopernate2004> dowhat now?
[08:35] <dissecti2n> yoopernate2004: Laptop
[08:35] <TnA> TnA ! Compiz
[08:35] <TnA> !compiz
[08:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:35] <nbjayme> help.... i cannot find correct driver for epson stylus c90.... (ubuntu fiesty)..
[08:35] <yoopernate2004> no are you using a laptop or a desktop?
[08:35] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, No, try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and look very carefully if it proposes removing anything before you type 'y'
[08:35] <dissecti2n> Huh?
[08:35] <tafkaz> Nvidia GeForce7050PV/nForce630a(MCP68PVNT) <- that is the chipset of the board
[08:35] <dissecti2n> yoopernate2004: Laptop
[08:35] <niina> What is "Python" most commonly used for? Just apps in Unix/Linux envioriments?
[08:36] <Frostex> Ok, how can i force mount my drive NTSF, it is saying it cannot read the filesystem type. but i know it was formated NTSF ages ago
[08:36] <nbjayme> anybody here configured epson stylus c90 successfully?
[08:36] <yoopernate2004> ok, never mind then...hehehe...i was gunna suggest making sure the drive was plugged in
[08:36] <yoopernate2004> is there anything in /dev that looks like it could be a cdrom drive?
[08:36] <Jordan_U> FrancoGG, mount -t ntfs
[08:36] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: kk tell you in a sec
[08:36] <Jordan_U> FrancoGG, Or for RW, "mount -t ntfs-3g"
[08:37] <tafkaz> yoopernate2004: was that question for me ?
[08:37] <dissecti2n> yoopernate2004: Uh, there's ptycd and ttycd
[08:37] <tafkaz> uh...no i guess
[08:37] <xTheGoat121x> niina, I've seen python used in Windows too
[08:37] <yoopernate2004> dissecti2n: you can try and mount those...i'm not really sure...
[08:38] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: how do i authenticate compiz-core, it keeps coming up, I ignored it twice but i think that might be the problem
[08:39] <yoopernate2004> dissecti2n: my /dev has 4 folders cdrom cdrw and dvd and dvdrw if you need something to look for
[08:39] <frostburn> dissecti2n, type $lsmod |grep cdrom
[08:39] <yoopernate2004> hunter: do you have compiz fusion?
[08:40] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, Did you add a third party repository?
[08:40] <beanage> Pirate_Hunter, have you tried asking someone in the #ubuntu-effects channel?
[08:40] <niina> xTheGoat121x: oh really, thats cool, just wondering ^^
[08:40] <Wolf23> help please?
[08:40] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: yeah to be able to get compiz on my system
[08:40] <yoopernate2004> i know that when the compiz fusion icon USED to have a bug that said compiz core or something along those lines always needed an update
[08:40] <yoopernate2004> but I don't know if it has gotten fixed since I looked into it
[08:40] <dissection> frostburn: It didn't find anything when I typed that
[08:40] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, You don't need extra repos for compiz, it comes installed by default in Feisty
[08:41] <Pirate_Hunter> beanage: no comiz just takes over the effects in ubuntu but has nothing to do with effects if that makes any logical sense
[08:41] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, #ubuntu-effects is for Compiz help...
[08:41] <frostburn> dissection, my guess is the kernel can't find your cd drive, it could be disconnected or not recognized(not sure why it wouldn't)
[08:42] <yoopernate2004> i know that fiesty used to have some issues with my hardware but everything SHOULD be ironed out by now
[08:42] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: ive been following instructions on this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion and ill pop over there to see if there are actually ppl active
[08:42] <dissection> frostburn: Its a blu-ray rewriter, but should have no problems reading CDs and DVDs. I installed Ubuntu using this drive. It also works with no problem in Windows.
[08:42] <xTheGoat121x> niina, no problem.
[08:43] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, You know that you don't need Compiz fusion if you just want compiz right?
[08:43] <frostburn> dissection, try $modprobe cdrom     then tell me what $dmesg |tail -1 says
[08:44] <Caelum> ok, how do I debug this "Loading please wait..." freeze on boot
[08:44] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: nope didnt know... i watched the videos online liked it and after using google followed instructions from that site
[08:44] <Caelum> I guess I can boot from knoppix and check the logs
[08:44] <dissection> frostburn: it says => [25423.668000]  wlan0: no IPv6 routers present
[08:45] <crazycrazy> hey, how do I get my microphone working?
[08:45] <Hornet`> Could someone please lend a hand getting my display back into AIGXL mode? :(
[08:45] <lalala> compiz fusion is far better than norma compiz in 7.04
[08:45] <chovy> how do i install a pkg?
[08:45] <frostburn> dissection  that's really odd, maybe a kernel update messed it up
[08:45] <chovy> or make a pkg rather
[08:45] <lalala> normal)
[08:45] <dissection> :[
[08:45] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, Yea,all you needed to do for the most basic effects was go to System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects, and for more just needed to install the extra compiz packages :)
[08:45] <crazycrazy> How do I get my microphone working?
[08:45] <tafkaz> noone ???
[08:45] <dissection> frostburn: Anything I can do, to fix it?
[08:46] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: just like the compiz channel they are not active dang this is annoying
[08:46] <ch3ckm8e> hi guys, I have a question: Earlier I was able to use my Atheros based wireless card fine but just after a shutdown It has stopped working. So far, I've tried reinstalling the madwifi drivers but in the end i could not succesfully modprobe ath_pci. I checked dmesg and there is no log of any pcmcia device. Any help?
[08:46] <Caelum> crazycrazy: check alsamixer, make sure it's not muted
[08:46] <yoopernate2004> dissection: you can try to load up the old kernal and see if it works in there
[08:46] <ax7> Hi
[08:46] <perl_cont> sup
[08:46] <yevg> i'm trying to install ruby on rails on an ubuntu machine (command line, no UI) -- i'm logged in as root -- what's best practice of how to install? should i download all of the files to the root home folder, or should i make a new account and work from there?
[08:46] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter how did u get compizfusion ?
[08:46] <crazycrazy> What's alsomixer?
[08:46] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: so what do i do now? should i unnistall it than
[08:46] <ax7> ok
[08:46] <perl_cont> ??
[08:46] <chovy> ubuntu.com is down?
[08:46] <Caelum> crazycrazy: alsamixer is a command
[08:46] <JoaoRic> what install grub in the ubuntu, where hd = SATA?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, You might want to remove the repository you added, remove all the compiz packages then install the *stable* Compiz packages that come with Feisty
[08:47] <crazycrazy> *alsamixer
[08:47] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: followed instructions from this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[08:47] <chovy> "irefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete."
[08:47] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: checking
[08:47] <Malcovich> I'm running out of ideas to get my wireless working on Feisty. Been banging my head on it for about 8 hours. Tried everything I can find mentioned online. Been thru the iwconfig, ifconfig, ndiswrapper. Any ideas? (New to linux, fairly computer savvy. Brand new install.)
[08:47] <chovy> fuck it
[08:47] <Jordan_U> Malcovich, What chipset?
[08:47] <Jordan_U> !ohmy | Chousuke
[08:47] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: i dont even know what is the stable compiz package for ubuntu and i relaly liked the effects for compiz fusion
[08:48] <ubotu> Chousuke: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:48] <Malcovich> Two different cards. One is the rt61 (I think.)
[08:48] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: *really
[08:48] <Jordan_U> Chousuke, Sorry, that was to chovy
[08:48] <frostburn> dissection, not sure, i don't have any experience with bluray, hopefully it will be fixed by gutsy.
[08:49] <beanage> does gutsy have a release date?
[08:49] <frostburn> 18th
[08:49] <gpm> hey guys, helvetica shows up for me in xfontsel but not in gnome appearance prefs, any clues?
[08:49] <AJ--1> 7 more days for gutsy
[08:49] <Malcovich> One card is pcmcia. One is usb. Both seem detected. Only the USB shows the available access points.
[08:49] <beanage> wow two days after I deploy to iraq.. lame
[08:49] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, If you wait a week you can just upgrade to 7.10 which will have Compiz Fusion installed, and enabled, by default
[08:49] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: did the normal desktop effect worked in your machine ?
[08:49] <frostburn> beanage, go grab it now, it's fairly stable
[08:49] <xTheGoat121x> .... CF enabled by default?  Boy, that's crazy.
[08:49] <dissecti1n> frostburn: Could my nVidia driver have messed up the kernel to stop the cdrom from working?
[08:50] <Jordan_U> beanage, I'd just like to say thank you :)
[08:50] <Malcovich> Neither will pull a dhcp. But static doesn't work either. Best I can tell. I may be setting it up wrong. Access points both workign fine on multiple other machines. Including an Ubuntyu on my other laptop.
[08:50] <frostburn> dissecti1n, i highly doubt it
[08:50] <beanage> frostburn, I didn't relize that was possable. I'm on it.
[08:50] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: lol i udnerstand what you mean but than after spending all this time... i might as well continue and once gutsy comes out im doing a clean install on my empty partition
[08:50] <frostburn> beanage, update-manager -d
[08:50] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, Then go for it and have fun :)
[08:51] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter:  ?
[08:51] <AJ--1> Malcovich: try this ---> http://www.linux.com/feature/56946
[08:51] <abhibera> hi i am facing a strange problem. i have started nautilus as root from the command line and i hit delete on some files. i suspect they went to the trash. how do i find the trash for root?
[08:51] <tafkaz> pleas...i am really stuck...and i cant find anything in google on this
[08:51] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: its better if we have fun together
[08:51] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: what's the problem?
[08:51] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: did the normal desktop effect worked in your machine ?
[08:51] <ch3ckm8e> hi guys, if i install a driver and use a different /usr/src/ directory than what 'uname -r' echoes will it malfunction?
[08:51] <frostburn> abhibera, turn on hidden folders in nautilus and look for a folder called .trash
[08:51] <rcard> ?
[08:51] <frostburn> in /root/
[08:51] <Hornet`> Could someone please lend me a hand getting my display back into AIGXL mode? A needed kernel upgrade has knocked it out, and nothing from Google seems to want to put it back again.
[08:52] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: wouldnt know never used it, never needed it until now "I know where you getting at"
[08:52] <xTheGoat121x> You know, either they really improved the drivers and CF itself, or Gutsy is just going to cause a LOT of problems.
[08:52] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: does your machine support direct rendering?
[08:52] <AJ--1> Malcovich: if still doesnt solve ur problem.. try this ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[08:53] <dissecti1n> What happened to ubuntu.com?
[08:53] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, I don't know if that repository has a pgp key, if it doesn't then you can ignore the warning about not being able to authenticate, it's a security thing, but it's no less secure than downloading any program from a site that doesn't use https, which is most of them :)
[08:53] <AJ--> dissecti1n: y? ubuntu.com seems to work find at my end here
[08:53] <Malcovich> AJ--1. I'm quite a bit past the basic stage. I've even had a fairly competent linux guy over to help out. No luck. I've been past the basic stuff.
[08:53] <lee__> eh wahts the gutsy server?
[08:54] <dissection> AJ--: It says "Firefox has detected that the server is redirected the request for this address in a way that will never complete."
[08:54] <joseph> Anybody know if wireless support in Ubuntu 7.10 is better than it was in 7.04?
[08:54] <dissection> *redirecting
[08:54] <dissection> joseph: It should be better
[08:54] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: I think so but im not certain im using default graphics card and I'm not the person who is usually interested in all the fancy effects tilll now so i dont know
[08:54] <george2002> hola
[08:54] <new> hi guys
[08:54] <sadmin> helo
[08:54] <sadmin> any idea
[08:54] <sadmin> guys
[08:54] <Jordan_U> joseph, For what chipset?
[08:54] <joseph> How do I send a message to someone in here?
[08:54] <sadmin> its some thing with pam
[08:54] <sadmin> ithink
[08:55] <Jordan_U> joseph, /msg nick message
[08:55] <crazycrazy> OK, when I run sound recorder, it says "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the multimedia settings"
[08:55] <new> i was installing octave but console gives me this error
[08:55] <new> configure: WARNING: I couldn't find -ltermcap, -lterminfo, -lncurses, -lcurses, or -ltermlib!
[08:55] <new> checking for rl_set_keyboard_input_timeout in -lreadline... no
[08:55] <new> configure: WARNING: I need GNU Readline 4.2 or later
[08:55] <new> configure: error: this is fatal unless you specify --disable-readline
[08:55] <crazycrazy> What do I do?
[08:55] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: true heck im getting it from the actuall site so i dont mind
[08:55] <abhibera> frostburn: thanks :)
[08:55] <new> who can help me to fix it?
[08:55] <abhibera> new: what is octave?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> joseph, Many people don't like to get private messages though
[08:55] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: $ glxinfo | grep direct     try that in terminal and see if it says yes
[08:55] <AJ--> dissection:  try clearing ur private data.. coz its working find my end
[08:55] <new> abhibera, a program similar to matlab
[08:55] <lee__> is running x  taht I got form the disk it has awesome awesome features in this one case unlike the other x i ws running it has my name down in the lower left by the clock
[08:55] <Malcovich> When I call dhclient, after the ra0 (or wlan0) up, config, then down. THe dhcp is just timing out. My iwconfig shows a 0/100 link quality. I don't think the dhcp is ever actually really trying.
[08:55] <dissection> AJ--: Still the same. I checked after someone else in this channel reported the same problem.
[08:56] <frostburn> AJ--, hit shift f5 on it not working for me either
[08:56] <mrak> !maplyer plugin
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maplyer plugin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <abhibera> new: wow! i must get me octave
[08:56] <new> !matlab
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matlab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <crazycrazy> Hey, something's wrong iwth my microphone
[08:56] <lee__> any how
[08:56] <Malcovich> I'm sorry. Down, config, then up. Long day. :)
[08:56] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: last time i tired that it blacked out my screen and put me back in login screen, will try again dont go anywhere even if i seem offline will be back
[08:56] <mrak> !mplayer plugin
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer plugin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <rcard> !grub
[08:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:56] <lee__> wahts the guts channel?
[08:56] <mrak> !mplayer
[08:56] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[08:56] <crazycrazy> screw it
[08:56] <frostburn> lee__, #ubuntu+1
[08:56] <abhibera> new: never used octave
[08:56] <abhibera> !octave
[08:56] <Jordan_U> !botabuse | mrak
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about octave - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <new> does nobody can help me pls?
[08:56] <ubotu> mrak: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:56] <joseph> I am really frustrated I spent 2 days trying to get my wireless working in Ubuntu following all the stuff on the web and never could get it then I tried PCLinux OS and it worked fine but I prefer Ubuntu
[08:56] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: k
[08:56] <lee__> thanks frostburn...hey werhent you just htere lol
[08:56] <new> abhibera, me too ... i cant install it
[08:56] <abhibera> new: maybe u should google Octave+Ubuntu
[08:57] <lee__> eh i was oem
[08:57] <abhibera> new: i'm sure someone has done it
[08:57] <Jordan_U> joseph, What chipset?
[08:57] <joseph> Jordan_U It's Broadcom
[08:57] <dissection> joseph: You could try installing a windows driver using ndiswrapper. Thats the only thing that worked for me.
[08:57] <abhibera> new: how r u installing it? from apt or ur using a script?
[08:57] <frostburn> lee__, i'm still there
[08:57] <abhibera> new: chances are u are doing it as a normal user
[08:57] <new> abhibera, from source code ...
[08:57] <abhibera> new: do a sudo
[08:57] <xTheGoat121x> Bot abuse?
[08:57] <new> abhibera, wih sudo
[08:57] <abhibera> new: u mean ./configure and make?????
[08:57] <new> *with
[08:57] <new> abhibera, yes
[08:57] <joseph> I tried Ndiswrapper and I could see access points but they weren't scanning and no signal
[08:58] <Jordan_U> joseph, How could it possibly work by default? It's illegal to distribute the needed firmware.
[08:58] <lee__> erg frst your all over the place
[08:58] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: again it blacked out my screen and got me into login screen, so what does that mean?
[08:58] <abhibera> new: i think u should see if octave is available in the ubuntu repository or some debian repository
[08:58] <abhibera> new: then u should do an apt-get install octave
[08:58] <Jordan_U> joseph, Did you try just installing the bcm43xx-fwcutter package?
[08:58] <joseph> Jordan it asked for the windows driver on the install and I specified that so it definately used ndiswrapper
[08:58] <abhibera> new: helping u compile octave is beyond the scope of this channel
[08:58] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: your VGA isnt setup correctly
[08:59] <new> abhibera, lol i didnt think to fing it on apt
[08:59] <new> haha
[08:59] <Jordan_U> joseph, Not necessarily, it could have just used the firmware from the driver
[08:59] <Jordan_U> joseph, That is what Gutsy does
[08:59] <abhibera> new: yes its available on apt
[08:59] <heaven> Kstars Kicks ass man cool stuff here :D
[08:59] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: :w so how can I set it up
[08:59] <abhibera> new: get it by doing sudo apt-get install octave
[08:59] <varka> joseph: as i told you, you dont have to use ndiswrapper, there is a native linux driver for your broadcom chipset
[08:59] <joseph> I wish I knew how they got it to work in PCLinux OS so I could do that in Ubuntu
[08:59] <varka> joseph: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[08:59] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: what type of card do u have ?
[09:00] <efx2k3> anyone have a good irc client that works within terminal?
[09:00] <abhibera> new: that's the beauty of ubuntu. there's a huge repository out there of precompiled packages
[09:00] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: ati nvidia ?
[09:00] <Jordan_U> joseph, "sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter"
[09:00] <Flannel> efx2k3: irssi
[09:00] <joseph> I tried that link Varka and coudln't get it
[09:00] <abhibera> new: so u can SAVE time :)
[09:00] <Jordan_U> joseph, That is all you need to do
[09:00] <dissecti1n> efx2k3: irssi
[09:00] <efx2k3> thanks
[09:00] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: have no clue :(
[09:00] <dissection> efx2k3: irssi or BitchX. I prefer irssi
[09:00] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: :)
[09:00] <efx2k3> thanks :)
[09:01] <Jordan_U> joseph, Or in Gutsy you would be prompted that restricted firmware is required and it would offer to download it for you or ask for the path to the driver ( only so it can extract the firmware from it )
[09:01] <joseph> So Jordan with thatr do I need windows drivers? And does it do WPA
[09:01] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: how can I find out
[09:01] <varka> joseph: what you didnt get? the link didnt work?
[09:01] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: if u dont know your hardware i cant help u :/
[09:01] <abhibera> i haven't been fiddling with audio and video codecs on my machine. can any one help me out with that?
[09:01] <joseph> No Varka it just sat there
[09:01] <abhibera> abhibera: i want all codecs installed
[09:01] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: erhm dang I knew that's what you would say
[09:02] <varka> ...
[09:02] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: no1 will help u "/
[09:02] <Jordan_U> joseph, You don't need Windows drivers, I don't know about WPA, but if it worked in PCLinux it should work the same in Ubuntu ( they use the same driver )
[09:02] <xTheGoat121x> So who in here has used Gutsy yet?
[09:02] <yoopernate2004> abhibera: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:02] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: but seriously how do I find out what graphics card ive got
[09:02] <yoopernate2004> will get and configure everything
[09:02] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, System -> Preferences -> Hardware Info
[09:02] <abhibera> yoopernate2004: and how much space u think i would require for it?
[09:02] <yoopernate2004> i don't know
[09:02] <AJ--> im an online gamer.. does ubuntu support online games like ragnarok and some othere MMORPG???
[09:02] <chowmeined> so
[09:03] <yoopernate2004> i never really worry about it
[09:03] <joseph> I also have a PC with a Ralink 2500 chipset that I couldn't get to work
[09:03] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: u need to find your hardware and setup your vga so u have direct rendering enable for compiz to work
[09:03] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: on this kind of days i miss windows
[09:03] <abhibera> yoopernate2004: no it didn't work for me. am i missing out some repo?
[09:03] <lalala> fr
[09:03] <chowmeined> why doesnt it seem like many things use upstart?
[09:03] <chowmeined> almost all the init scripts are still sysvinit
[09:03] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: from manual maybe ?
[09:03] <yoopernate2004> open up the package manager and search for restricted
[09:03] <Jordan_U> !games | AJ--
[09:03] <ubotu> AJ--: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:03] <joseph> I'm pretty much convinced that it has to be something I'm doing though
[09:03] <heaven> hey pirate i mean i got tons of trouble with ubuntu, but ummm il never get back to windows
[09:04] <chowmeined> not many things use upstart*
[09:04] <lalala> is it a desktop machine or laptop ?
[09:04] <AJ--> Pirate_Hunter: it realy scares me to go back in windows especialy encountering the bluescreen in vista
[09:04] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: nah that junk got me junk and its a default graphics card
[09:04] <Pirate_Hunter> AJ--: youll get use to it, youllget used to it
[09:04] <abhibera> yoopernate2004: i'm on edgy
[09:04] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: is it a desktop machime or laptop ?
[09:05] <abhibera> yoopernate2004: and i have the restricted repositories enabled
[09:05] <joseph> Well goodnight all thanks for all the tips. I guess I'll have to give another shot at it when 7.10 comes out
[09:06] <riotkittie> arrrrrgh.  why is grub being so eeeeeeevil to poor little me.
[09:06] <m1r> riotkittie , what is problem ?
[09:06] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: desktop
[09:06] <Jordan_U> riotkittie, Government conspiracy to piss you off, by the people who killed kennedy
[09:06] <riotkittie> Jordan_U: i should have known
[09:07] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: do u know whats the cpu is ?
[09:07] <heaven> umm i got no sound with XMMS but i do have sistem sounds anyone can help me for one sec please?
[09:07] <GarryFre> If at first you don't suceed, skydiving is not for you.
[09:07] <eck> does anyone know if postfix runs in a chroot on ubuntu? it's having problems finding the sasl socket
[09:07] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: intel pentium 4 (r) 3.2GHZ thats all i know
[09:07] <riotkittie> m1r: i just installed another distro. i am trying to edit menu.lst and add it. i have done that twice. each time i save, and reboot... it's not on my menu
[09:07] <xTheGoat121x> riotkittie, b/c Grub is evil.
[09:07] <Jordan_U> riotkittie, I may have said too much
[09:08] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: wheer do I find the graphics card in the hardware information
[09:08] <beanage> !LVM
[09:08] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:08] <new> guys i have a problem with keybord ... special caracthers doesnt work ... who can help me? this is an errore that appears everytime i start my pc http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/773/
[09:08] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: when the machine boots from cold start not from restart the first think it shows on screen is the VGA type
[09:09] <Jordan_U> riotkittie, Everything I said before was joke, russian spy not try kill you
[09:09] <Malcovich> I need somebody with some real wireless chops. I've been thru the online tutorials etc... Had an intermediate linux guy over to help. No luck. I've got an RaLink RT2561/RT61. Anyone?
[09:09] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: lol not this one it hasnt done that in a long time
[09:09] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: u can try that to identify your CGA
[09:09] <beanage> jordan_U, lmao
[09:09] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: VGA )
[09:10] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: never closed ?
[09:10] <riotkittie> Malcovich: i have an rtsomething or other. i suggest you buy a gun and shoot yours. err. i mean, what exactly are you having problems with?
[09:10] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: im to do that but finding it hard and so far im getting agp
[09:10] <riotkittie> Jordan_U: then what's that man doing in my fridge? >|
[09:10] <AJ--> Jordan_U: so WOW & ragnarok 2 cant  be played in linux?? coz its not on list there
[09:10] <Malcovich> riotkittie: Won't see the access points. Won't pull a dhcp ip address.
[09:10] <frostburn> AJ--, you can play wow
[09:11] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: it will show the VGA for a short time try to catch the info
[09:11] <Malcovich> Two different working access points. One of which I'm using to type this.
[09:11] <Jordan_U> AJ--, No, they just aren't native, I know that WoW at least can be played with wine
[09:11] <AJ--> hmmm i tried counterstrike b4 but cant get online..
[09:11] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: you mean 1-2 secs thanx to grub it doesnt show most of the times
[09:11] <AJ--> tnx a lot guys
[09:11] <Flannel> AJ--: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[09:12] <beanage> gotta run a windows emu
[09:12] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: its the first think that show on screen and after is bios and last its crub
[09:13] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: its the first thing*
[09:13] <ubuntu_> does anyone know if the chip on a toshiba satellite hdd on bottom side if u need it for a new hdd for the comp or if they all come with the chip on the bottom of the hdd?
[09:13] <AJ--> i triend installing some online games in wine.. but gameguard wont load.. most of the MORPG now are having this some antihacking stuffs that bugging the wine to work..
[09:13] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: could this be it 662/761Gx PCIE VGA display adapter?
[09:14] <beanage> If you install using the alternate feisty cd, will it setup your xserver gui too?
[09:14] <Flannel> beanage: yes (or, you'll have the option anyway)
[09:14] <beanage> kk
[09:14] <beanage> flannel, thanks
[09:14] <serenityUK> ubuntu_, HDD are usually self contained units, u shouldn't have to do any more than connect power and data cables
[09:14] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: on this SiS machine sometimes its the logo image than that for a quick time and afterwards grub - but than i siad sometimes it shows
[09:15] <beanage> flannel, just as I asked you the config xserver-xorg launched haha
[09:15] <murlidhar_> need a torrent file . for gutsy alternate cd . can't find it on net
[09:15] <beanage> murlidhar one sec
[09:15] <beanage> I got it
[09:15] <ubuntu_> serenityUK: this is for a laptop it had a chip as big and wide s the hdd was
[09:15] <riotkittie> Malcovich: you might want to take the easy road and go the ndiswrapper route, if you haven't given that a shot
[09:15] <Malcovich> riotkittie: I have in fact tried that. Same results.
[09:15] <Fido> anybody know how to instll Stardict
[09:16] <murlidhar_> beanage: i will wait
[09:16] <beanage> murlidhar_, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download make sure you check the box on the bottom
[09:16] <Malcovich> riotkittie. I actually have another wireless card. A usb linksys. Can't get that one working either. Though that one can see the access points.
[09:16] <Jordan_U> Fido, It's in the repos
[09:16] <Jordan_U> Fido, Install it just like any other application
[09:16] <heaven> do i need to install video drivers after ubuntu instalation? and how
[09:16] <beanage> murlidhar_, check the box that says alternate cd
[09:16] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: if it is a sis u are in bad luck to work with compiz
[09:16] <riotkittie> Malcovich: is the linksys also a ralink?
[09:17] <Fido> Jordon,thx
[09:17] <Malcovich> riotkittie: Don't think so. I can pop it in and see.
[09:17] <murlidhar_> beanage: yes ofcourse how silly of me . just overlooked it
[09:17] <Jordan_U> heaven, You can check if you need to, and install them if you do, by going to System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manger
[09:17] <serenityUK> ubuntu_, u mean on the bottom of the HD itself?  you're not meant to fiddle with that stuff or void warrenty
[09:17] <riotkittie> usb wifi adapters + linux = head/desk
[09:17] <serenityUK> ubuntu_, hd come with various chips that we don't bother with
[09:17] <beanage> murlidhar_, np, man your the first person I've been able to help with personal exp. haha =D
[09:18] <Malcovich> riotkittie: Yeah. Apparently so do Airlink 101 ralinks.
[09:18] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: 0_o hmmm well i guess so still just wanted to try it out well now you cna help me unninstll compiz fusion form my box :)
[09:18] <sslashes> does anyone know how to send keyboard input from the command line, something like sendkey ESC, and it will act as if someone hit ESC on the system keyboard?
[09:18] <murlidhar_> beanage: but it is fesity not gutsy:(
[09:18] <ubuntu_> serenityUK:  yes on the hdd hd a chip screwd into the hdd on the bottom i need to know when i get a new hdd if it will have the chip
[09:18] <Jordan_U> sslashes, I know how to do it in Java :)
[09:18] <serenityUK> ubuntu_, yes, u on;l
[09:19] <abhibera> how can i request a Ubuntu 7.10 CD/DVD?
[09:19] <serenityUK> ubuntu_, yes, u only have to worry about cables*
[09:19] <Jordan_U> !shipit | abhibera
[09:19] <ubotu> abhibera: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[09:19] <ubuntu_> serenityUK: thnks
[09:19] <riotkittie> Malcovich: if it's any consolation, and you're willing to upgrade in about a week, 7.10 does seem to handle ralinks better. not great, but better. :
[09:19] <abhibera> Jordan_U: but i want 7.10 not fiesty
[09:19] <riotkittie> Malcovich: did you try compiling the serialmonkey drivers > rt2x00.serialmonkey.com (.net?)
[09:20] <sslashes> Jordan_U: =P heh, thats not going to be much help =P, i am basically looking for a frontend program to the xsendevent in the standard xlibrary
[09:20] <riotkittie> abhibera: shipit is offering gutsy cds now.
[09:20] <Jordan_U> abhibera, Just go to shipit.ubuntu.com, they are doing preorders
[09:20] <riotkittie> or atleast they were a few adys back
[09:20] <riotkittie> days*
[09:20] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX  says your card is not supported
[09:20] <beanage> murlidhar_, okay I know where that is too.
[09:20] <abhibera> wowIE!!! :)
[09:20] <Malcovich> riotkittie: No. I found them, moved on to ndis. I'm NEW on linux. Compiling and installing those drivers was over my head.
[09:20] <riotkittie> Malcovich: was over mine, as well.
[09:20] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: why you want to unistall it ?
[09:20] <murlidhar_> beanage: where is it then :)
[09:20] <abhibera> is there anyway i can make a Ubuntu repository mirror for my office?
[09:21] <Jordan_U> abhibera, Yes
[09:21] <beanage> murlidhar_, what are you upgrading from?
[09:21] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: help me uninstal compiz-fusion if i can't use it on this box also its a waste of space
[09:21] <abhibera> so that individual machines don't have to download updates from the main server?
[09:21] <beanage> murlidhar_, in other words do you have feisty already?
[09:21] <murlidhar_> beanage: feisty
[09:21] <abhibera> Jordan_U any tutorial for that? i will read it and build one myself
[09:21] <murlidhar_> beanage: yes
[09:21] <Caelum> maybe upgrading to gutsy will fix my boot hang...
[09:21] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: try #sudo apt-get remove compiz-fusion
[09:22] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: in terminal
[09:22] <Hornet`> Caelum: what computer is it?
[09:22] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: lol yeah in terminal
[09:22] <beanage> murlidhar_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[09:22] <Jordan_U> abhibera, You would use apt-mirror , I'm looking for a good tutorial
[09:22] <Caelum> Hornet`: it's a 2ghz P4
[09:22] <Caelum> Hornet`: dell
[09:22] <Hornet`> Ah, fair enough.
[09:22] <beanage> murlidhar_, does the computer have internet?
[09:23] <Hornet`> Caelum: bootchart.org
[09:23] <frostburn> is there any software that grabs an image off of a webcam using v4l2 (note 2)
[09:23] <murlidhar_> beanage: my internet is not stable that's why i wanted a offline installation
[09:23] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: its worng it cnat find the package with that name
[09:23] <Jordan_U> abhibera, http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror , don't know if it is good or not though
[09:23] <Dark> How compatible is Ubuntu with laptops? Toshiba to be exact.
[09:23] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: let me check
[09:23] <riotkittie> Malcovich:  when you went the ndiswrapper route, did you try the older driver [9x/me]  if it was available? 2k/xp drivers failed for me? I wish I could say something USEFUL b/c I know how much it sucks :P
[09:23] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: thanx
[09:24] <Caelum> Hornet`: it seems to boot ok, even all the services start up, it just gets stuck at "Loading please wait..." and won't give me a console. Just upgraded it to feisty.
[09:24] <beanage> murlidhar_, kk on that page I linked theirs mention of the alternate cd but I haven't seen the download link yet
[09:24] <abhibera> Jordan_U: looking at it now. i have learnt most of my linux stuff from howto forge :) it's pretty good
[09:24] <ddt_7th> i upgrade my system to gutsy,but there is a problem
[09:24] <Jordan_U> ddt_7th, Read the channel topic
[09:24] <Hornet`> Caelum: no idea then, soz.
[09:24] <murlidhar_> beanage: that is what i am searching for
[09:24] <Malcovich> riotkittie: I tried the only driver I had, which did not specify 98/xp/etc...
[09:25] <riotkittie> Malcovich: did you get it from a CD or download from the maker's website?
[09:25] <ddt_7th> i click quit,and it's very slow to show the shutdown,restart,logoff dialog box
[09:26] <Jordan_U> ddt_7th, "Gutsy is NOT supported, beta testers can join #ubuntu+1"
[09:26] <Malcovich> riotkittie: From the cd that came with the card. Kicking around for a while. If I had to guess, I'd say older, not newer.
[09:26] <ddt_7th> ok,i'm sorry
[09:26] <beanage> Anyone know if their is a gutsy alternate cd yet?
[09:27] <Flannel> beanage: Of course there is.  It's available from the same place you get the desktop CD.
[09:27] <riotkittie> Malcovich: I'd see if there were drivers available on the manufacturer's website - they may be newer. the ones on my CD sucked.
[09:27] <beanage> flannel, can you give me a link?
[09:27] <Hornet`> Could someone please lend me a hand getting my display back into AIGXL mode? A needed kernel upgrade has knocked it out, and nothing from Google seems to want to put it back again.
[09:27] <sadmin> helo
[09:27] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: try #sudo apt-get remove compiz     that
[09:27] <sadmin> guys
[09:28] <beanage> flannel, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta theirs no download for the alternate here
[09:28] <STHK> Holaa alguien habla Espaol 
[09:28] <STHK> ?
[09:28] <Kud> does unpackaging the ubuntu7 iso into a directory and then burning the contents a good way to corrupt the files?(yes that is a serious question :P)
[09:28] <murlidhar_> beanage: ok found it here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20071009/
[09:28] <Malcovich> riotkittie: I went the whole ndis route before I discovered the rt61 driver was in Feisty. (Like I said, I'm new.) Abandoned it for the native one after that. You think the ndis might actually be a better bet?
[09:29] <beanage> murlidhar_, Did you get that link?
[09:29] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: it seems if i unninstall compiz or any of its components I lose ubuntu desktop and a few other components now who is the sick programmer that found that funny *stop rant* yeah well what happens if i lose ubuntu desktop
[09:29] <beanage> murlidhar_, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20071009/
[09:29] <murlidhar_> beanage: yes here it is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20071009/
[09:29] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop | Pirate_Hunter
[09:29] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[09:29] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: try #just leave it there
[09:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: kl will do so
[09:30] <Hornet`> Could someone please lend me a hand getting my display back into AIGXL mode? A needed kernel upgrade has knocked it out, and nothing from Google seems to want to put it back again.
[09:30] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, It gets removed because you have to remove the version of compiz that is installed by default, ubuntu-desktop pretty much just depends on everything installed by default
[09:31] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: or u can do after sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop before you restart the machine
[09:31] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: for a sec i thought that was a command lol since ill be gettting gutsy soon i dont mind messing with feisty also I ahvent got anything important that I cnat get back again
[09:31] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: better to leave it as it is
[09:31] <beanage> murlidhar_, Good luck bud
[09:31] <Jordan_U> Hornet`, What GPU, and how did you install the drivers?
[09:31] <Caelum> Hornet`: figured it out finally... inittab issues
[09:32] <Hornet`> Jordan_U: it's an ATI Radeon 200m, and using Envy, as someone advised.
[09:32] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: u can remove it and install it again butbefore you restart the machine
[09:32] <murlidhar_> beanage: yes thank u i am doing it right now
[09:32] <beanage> murlidhar_, Kewl.
[09:32] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: got you captain
[09:32] <Hornet`> Jordan_U: Despite what the gentoo wiki says, the card *does* support it, it was working perfectly before the upgrade.
[09:32] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, If you try to re-install ubuntu-desktop compiz-fusion will not work, and like you know it is not needed anyway
[09:32] <riotkittie> Malcovich: not having personal experience with that specific ralink chipset, i can't tell you. Getting my own ralink to work was a nightmare, and I was *this* close to selling it and looking for a 3rd adapter when i updated to the 7.10 beta and found my adapter "worked" out of the box. the native drivers for my chipset are just vile. i'm not sure if yours are better.
[09:32] <Jordan_U> Hornet`, Whoever advised it shouldn't have
[09:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: np second in command and yet im the pirate
[09:33] <riotkittie> Have you posted at the forums, or searched there? someone may have better advice.
[09:33] <Kyokuz> is mkpartfs primary ext3 0 460 valid for parted? when i do a print there is no partitions showing
[09:33] <beanage> Woohoo, I just completed my feisty alternate cd install.
[09:33] <riotkittie> Oh one more thing. i know compiling the drivers is sheer madness, but you may want to try RutilT, which is available on the serialmonkey site
[09:33] <Jordan_U> Hornet`, AIGLX only works with the open source drivers ( which Envy replaces with drivers from ati.com, which will also break on every kernel update )
[09:33] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: if u restart the machine with out the ubuntu-desktop you will log in a terminal only that u again can do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to restore your desktop
[09:34] <Malcovich> riotkittie: Didn't post. Spent hours reading and trying stuff though. I'm starting to lean towards installing the Gutsy beta. :)
[09:34] <Hornet`> Jordan_U: Ah, fair enough.  So should I remove them via Envy?
[09:34] <Jordan_U> lalala, No he will not
[09:34] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop > lalala
[09:34] <riotkittie> it's a network manager, and you will need to compile it. this is /very/ easy, though.
[09:34] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: will surely remember that thanx
[09:34] <Jordan_U> Hornet`, Yes, are you sure you had AIGLX and not XGL?
[09:34] <lalala> Jordan_u he will not what ?
[09:34] <emman102> anybody here has a typing tutor typing??
[09:34] <emman102> any body knows where to get a typing tutor software?
[09:35] <Jordan_U> lalala, Reboot into a terminal if he removes ubuntu-desktop
[09:35] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: im a stpe closer to becoming a linux guru rofl
[09:35] <Jordan_U> emman102, Applications -> Add / Remove
[09:35] <Hornet`> Jordan_U: I was, I'm not sure any more though.
[09:35] <lalala> Jordan_u it did mine and have restore mine desktop
[09:35] <emman102> Jordan_U do you have a website?
[09:35] <Jordan_U> lalala, Then you must have used aptitude or apt-get autoremove
[09:36] <riotkittie> emman102: there's gtypist
[09:36] <Jordan_U> emman102, That is not how you install things in Linux
[09:36] <beanage> feisty fresh install and it appears to be running very laggy. So far taking a minute to type in username..
[09:36] <beanage> This can't be good
[09:36] <Malcovich> riotkittie: That RutilT looks interesting.
[09:36] <Hornet`> Jordan_U: Drivers removed.
[09:36] <emman102> riotkittie thanx
[09:37] <Jordan_U> emman102, Just go to the Applications menu at the top left of the screen, then go to Add / Remove and search for typing tutor
[09:37] <emman102> Jordan_U supposing my linux is not online
[09:37] <Jordan_U> emman102, packages.ubuntu.com
[09:37] <lalala> Jordan_u i told him to leave it as it is :/
[09:37] <emman102> i want it in tar.gz form
[09:37] <lalala> Jordan_u i m trying to help from what i know :/
[09:37] <beanage> Anyone notice a huge amount of lag from feisty after a fresh install?
[09:37] <Jordan_U> Hornet`, Ok, now just make sure that your xorg.conf is set to use the "ati" drivers and not "fglrx"
[09:38] <Jordan_U> Hornet`, You may just want to reconfigure X:
[09:38] <Jordan_U> !xconfig | Hornet`
[09:38] <ubotu> Hornet`: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[09:38] <riotkittie> Malcovich: all you need to do is open a terminal and "sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall"  if you dont have them, or search for them synaptic. download, uncompress, switch to the directory, "sh configure" "make" "sudo checkinstall"  (you can "sudo make install" for the last step, but checkinstall will allow for easier removal of things compiled from source)
[09:38] <riotkittie> brb. i need to see if i can boot this stupid distro.
[09:38] <beanage> Anyone notice a huge amount of lag from feisty after a fresh install?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> Hornet`, The second command is what you want ( it will backup your current xorg.conf and create a new one )
[09:39] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: any luck with your problem ?
[09:39] <Kyokuz> what is difference between specifying ext2 or ext3 in filesystem?
[09:39] <Kyokuz> does it make any difference?
[09:39] <Jordan_U> Kyokuz, ext3 is journaled
[09:39] <Kyokuz> i am trying to use parted and it isn't working umm#
[09:39] <Jordan_U> Kyokuz, But ext3 is backward compatible
[09:40] <Jordan_U> Kyokuz, Unless you are installing to a flash drive you want ext3
[09:40] <beanage> Is their a command to make your xserver launch if I boot it in text?
[09:40] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: well installed it again, it installed compiz again but the basic so yeha i think its done
[09:40] <Jordan_U> beanage, startx :)
[09:40] <beanage> tyty
[09:40] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: k
[09:40] <Kyokuz> is mkpartfs primary ext3 0 460 a valid statement?
[09:40] <Kyokuz> doesn't seem to work
[09:41] <Jordan_U> beanage, But you should NOT run that if you boot into recovery mode
[09:41] <Bl0w_M0nk> wolerine ya still trh?
[09:41] <Kyokuz> when i do print it shows no partitions created
[09:41] <Jordan_U> beanage, It is more than just "text mode", it is also  single user mode
[09:41] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: try to get a better VGA ati or nvidia for compiz to work
[09:41] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: need to go on an errand and its cold outside :w
[09:41] <beanage> jordan_U>> on a fresh boot I can barely move my mouse in feisty.
[09:41] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: nah i give up like i said i aint the effecs kind of person just wanted to try it out
[09:42] <beanage> jordan_U, at the login screen
[09:42] <beanage> with the gui running
[09:42] <beanage> jordan_U, any ideas?
[09:42] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: they worth to buy a new VGA :) especially compiz fusion
[09:43] <Jordan_U> beanage, ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a console, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" to stop X
[09:43] <Pirate_Hunter> lalala: lol nice persuasion i'll think about it "get paid next week" bye for now
[09:43] <lalala> Pirate_Hunter: bye
[09:43] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U: c yah for now
[09:45] <emman102> ping
[09:46] <emman102> where can i get a driver fora builtin lan card in ubuntu 7.04
[09:47] <beanage> jordan_U, still getting bad lag
[09:48] <beanage> I typed okok as a false command and it still hasn't told me it's a false command yet.
[09:48] <emman102> where can i get a driver fora builtin lan card in ubuntu 7.04 my motherboard is assus
[09:49] <beanage> just now got a command not found
[09:49] <emman102> pls help i need to connect my ubuntu7.04 to the network
[09:50] <emman102> where can i find a  driver
[09:50] <tech0007> hi everyone
[09:50] <beanage> hi tech
[09:50] <tech0007> anybody knows how to setup bluetooth in feisty?
[09:51] <tech0007> a link or howto would be fine
[09:52] <Jordan_U> beanage, That actually takes more proccessing than you would think, it's searching the repos for any package with an "okok" command in it so it can suggest you install it :)
[09:52] <beanage> jordan_U, lol ok
[09:52] <tech0007> can't find a howto in ubuntuforums.org
[09:52] <beanage> jordan_U, I'm launching the Xserver again
[09:53] <Jordan_U> beanage, You can go to another terminal with ctrl+alt+F2-6 ( 7 is usually X )
[09:53] <Jordan_U> beanage, If you want the absolute minimal X ( ie no gnome ) then just do "xinit"
[09:54] <beanage> tech0007, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=bluetooth&titlesearch=Titles
[09:56] <sadmin> helo
[09:56] <beanage> jordan_U, still loading up xserver lol
[09:56] <sadmin> any one know how i change my ldapuser on ubuntu to login 1 time it ask for passwd change on windows
[09:56] <Jordan_U> beanage, startx or xinit?
[09:56] <zcat[1] > !bluetooth
[09:56] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:56] <beanage> startx
[09:56] <sadmin> any one know how i change my ldapuser on windows to login 1 time it ask for passwd change
[09:57] <zcat[1] > hmm
[09:57] <beanage> jordan_U, before you told me about xinit, I did it.
[09:57] <Jordan_U> !repeat | sadmin
[09:57] <ubotu> sadmin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:58] <niina> Is there a good terminal-based mp3 player for ubuntu?
[09:58] <beanage> jordan_U, Almost loaded up! haha
[09:59] <emman102> have you ever heard with D language?
[09:59] <lalala> Jordan_U: are u good in linux general to ask u a question ?
[09:59] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: it managed to crash, so I had to repair xorg with vi, which wasn't fun.
[09:59] <emman102> is it true its more powerful than C?
[10:00] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: what was the next step, again?
[10:00] <niina> Is there any good text-based mp3 player for ubuntu?
[10:00] <Hornet_> niina: mplayer
[10:00] <niina> mplayer kk
[10:00] <niina> thanks
[10:01] <gregorovius> is there a way to avoid automounting usb flash drives?
[10:01] <Jordan_U> Hornet_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[10:02] <Jordan_U> Hornet_, That actually would have saved you fixing your xorg.conf in vi :)
[10:02] <beanage> jordan_U, do you think I should try to regonfiure my xserver aswell?
[10:02] <beanage> jordan_U, could that be it?
[10:02] <Jordan_U> beanage, I doubt it.
[10:02] <andruk> mysqld_safe is taking up a lot of cpu, and it does not appear to be doing anything.  anybody know of a way i can safely kill it?
[10:03] <niina> Hornet_: Isnt mplayer just a video player though?
[10:03] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: Heh, possibly, I didn't have any choice though, it completely locked up.
[10:03] <gregorovius> andruk, disable it from starting in system - admin - services
[10:03] <Hornet_> No, music too.
[10:03] <ubuntu_> what is a Bare Hard Drive?
[10:03] <niina> k
[10:03] <lalala> gregorovius: did u try System->Preferences->Removable Drives and Media ?
[10:04] <gregorovius> lmao, thanks lalala
[10:04] <thep33t> anyone know where to invoke NVreg_RMEdgeIntrCheck=0 to disable edge triggerd inturrupts in my device?
[10:04] <xxx> hai love me
[10:04] <gregorovius> I was looking at /etc... sometimes I miss the simple stuff
[10:04] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: okay, done.
[10:04] <beanage> jordan_U, I think I'm going to try to reconfigure it anyways. what is the command?
[10:05] <beanage> !xserver
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <beanage> !display
[10:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:05] <gregorovius> I think it's...
[10:05] <gregorovius> !xorg | beanage
[10:05] <ubotu> beanage: please see above
[10:05] <gregorovius> haha
[10:06] <gregorovius> ubotu is so smart i get goosebumps
[10:06] <Bo^Dick> hi
[10:06] <emman102> have you ever heard with D language?
[10:06] <Bo^Dick> what do locate the path for a file i know exists in some subdirectory?
[10:07] <Bo^Dick> i tried ls -R |grep myfoofile but that didn't reveal path
[10:07] <arooni> folks, im having tons of trouble getting firebug working on firefox.  i have it installed and enabled; but i can't see the console.  i have ubuntu.... any ideas on how to fix?>
[10:07] <quux> Is there something I don't know about that would force ubuntu (6.06LTS) to restart itself?
[10:07] <Yourdoom> try with find Bo^Dick
[10:07] <gregorovius> Bo^Dick, you can use 'locate $file', 'whereis $file'...
[10:07] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: It's now back to ATI, what should I do now?
[10:08] <Bo^Dick> thanks
[10:09] <Jordan_U> Hornet_, Try restarting X and see if AIGLX works again
[10:09] <Hornet_> Brb then, thanks. :)
[10:09] <niina> how do i use mplayer in the terminal for playing mp3 files?
[10:10] <beanage> Grrr!
[10:10] <beanage> It's not letting me reconfigure my xserver
[10:10] <beanage> keeps telling me /etc/x11/xorg.conf no such file
[10:12] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: how can I tell which mode it's in safely?  I usually test it with Fusion, which results in slow performance / a crash if it's the wrong one.
[10:13] <Hornet_> I know there's a console command, I just can't remember it though. :(
[10:13] <KoweSix> !codecs
[10:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:14] <tech0007> ubotu..thanks
[10:14] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:14] <beanage> I just ping'd google and it just keeps pinging over and over again.
[10:14] <tech0007> ubotu...i knew it
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i knew it - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <cherva> i have a problem with symbolic linking my .wine dir to ~/Wine here is the output of ls -s /home/cherva/.wine/drive_c ~/Wine  http://pastebin.com/d5e16c6dc
[10:14] <Malcovich> Anyone know why I get this error? And how to fix. "Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path." This is when trying to run configure.sh before making a binary package. (I'm NEW to linux. This is my first Make)
[10:15] <boubbin> how to upgrade to gutsy when its released ?
[10:16] <beanage> How do you make ubuntu stop pinging?
[10:16] <cherva> boubbin: there will be an option in the update manager
[10:16] <cherva> beanage: Ctrl + C
[10:16] <beanage> thank you
[10:16] <boubbin> cherva you mean adept / apt / aptitude ?
[10:17] <Hornet_> Jordan_U, are you still about?
[10:17] <cherva> boubbin: yes
[10:18] <cherva> boubbin: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or there will be an option in the orange square in your try bar
[10:19] <lee__> eh whats the server channel to ubuntu1
[10:19] <Windaria> hmmm
[10:20] <sumic> o
[10:20] <niina> how do i play a whole directory of mp3's with mplayer in the terminal?
[10:20] <Jordan_U> Hornet_, Yes
[10:20] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: aha, good stuff, thanks. :)
[10:20] <lee__> eh how do i change chanels to ubuntu 1
[10:20] <lee__> ?
[10:20] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: How can I find out my current graphics mode with the terminal?
[10:21] <Jordan_U> Hornet_, What do you mean by "graphics mode" ?
[10:21] <lee__> #ubuntu1
[10:21] <cherva> can someone tell me the command to symlink my .wine to ~/Wine because ls -s /home/cherva/.wine/drive_c ~/Wine outputs   http://pastebin.com/d5e16c6dc
[10:21] <niina> Hornet_: Do you know how to play a whole dir with mplayer in the terminal?
[10:21] <boubbin> cherva ok
[10:21] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: display mode, then.  XGL, FRGLX etc.
[10:21] <lee__> eh ok how do i get back to gutsy?
[10:21] <Jordan_U> niina, mplayer /path/to/folder/*.mp3
[10:22] <arooni> given: I exported bookmarks, killed ~/.mozilla dir and reemerged firefox with
[10:22] <arooni> `mozdevelop` USE flag on. It helped. Simple killing ~/.mozilla didn't
[10:22] <arooni> help. Not sure if the issue is resolved with USE flags, probably just
[10:22] <arooni> rebuilding could help.  .... anyone know how to 'remerge firefox with mozdevelop use flag on?  does that me recompliing from scratch?
[10:22] <Ashex> I need a faster hard drive
[10:22] <beanage> Jordan_U, I think it might be my video card driver...
[10:22] <Ashex> I think this laptop has a 4200
[10:22] <Ashex> 4200rpm*
[10:22] <lee__> eh I need to get to the gutsy server
[10:22] <Jordan_U> beanage, Do you have Desktop effects enabled?
[10:23] <ochosi> hi, i have a strange problem. i connected a printer to my laptop (via usb) and wanted to add it via cups but cups doesn't accept my username and password (although every other program does), any ideas?
[10:23] <lee__> #ubuntu 1
[10:23] <beanage> jordan_U, I haven't been able to do much of anything
[10:23] <beanage> Except ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:23] <lee__> #ubuntu1
[10:23] <niina> Jordan_U Playing /Ylva/*.mp3.
[10:23] <niina> File not found: '/Ylva/*.mp3'
[10:23] <Jordan_U> beanage, Because I can't see how you would be able to take a screenshot of the problems it caused if it were a driver issue unless you were running compiz
[10:23] <beanage> I just rebooted to get my usb keyboard up so I can actually do some typing
[10:23] <mwerlberger> ochosi: you have to use root as username for cups login...
[10:24] <Jordan_U> niina, It works for me, though I've only got FLAC and ogg files
[10:24] <niina> oh wait it worked it hink
[10:25] <niina> Jordan_U: thanks!
[10:25] <Jordan_U> niina, np :)
[10:25] <lee__> #1ubuntu
[10:25] <beanage> Anyone have any ideas why feisty would be lagging really badly on a fresh install? Only lags when the xserver is running
[10:25] <beanage> when kick it back to text only it's just as fast as before
[10:26] <lee__> guys how do i get to gutsy
[10:26] <niina> how do i check my HDD space in the terminal?
[10:26] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: how can I find out the display mode, then?  I'd rather not try Fusion in case it crashes.
[10:26] <tarzeau> niina: df -h
[10:26] <Jordan_U> beanage, have you tried xinit yet? That would tell you better if it's X or some other program running in X
[10:26] <beanage> k
[10:27] <Jordan_U> Hornet_, glxinfo
[10:27] <beanage> jordan_U, I'll do that now.
[10:27] <Jordan_U> beanage, From there if you want to see what happens when you start gnome run "gnome-session"
[10:27] <niina> tarzeau: thanks!
[10:28] <beanage> k
[10:28] <wubunt3> do someone knows the address of the gutsy download mirrors
[10:28] <lee__> Ok guys I have a questin about gutsy
[10:28] <lee__> #ubuntu+1
[10:28] <ochosi> mwerlberger: i even tried "root" as user with my password, still doesn't work...
[10:29] <niina> When I'm in the terminal and checking my HDD I the slashes "/" where all the spaces should be, is there a way to remove this ?
[10:30] <Jordan_U> niina, Use quotes?
[10:30] <Jordan_U> niina, And I assume you mean "\ "
[10:31] <mwerlberger> ochosi: which version of ubuntu do you use? how do you try to access cups? http://localhost:631 or the gnome stuff?
[10:31] <niina> Jordan_U: I'll give an example A folder is named.. The Beatles - Let it be but in the terminal I see "The\ Beatles\ -\ Let \ it \ be
[10:31] <beanage> jordan_U, unable to connect to Xserver.
[10:31] <beanage> Server is already active for display 0
[10:31] <Jordan_U> beanage, When you ran gnome-session?
[10:31] <sumic> \ Let \ it \ be \ Let \ it \ be\ Let \ it \ be
[10:32] <Jordan_U> beanage, You have to stop X
[10:32] <ochosi> mwerlberger: sorry, now it works. i just reset the root-password (actually to what it was before) via passwd and now it works. thanks anyway!
[10:32] <Samuli^> I need help setting up right resolution for my desktop
[10:32] <mwerlberger> ochosi: perfekt....
[10:33] <dizzer_> Hello, i have problem with a partition, ubuntu sees it but I can save any files on it
[10:33] <beanage> jordan_U no when I ran xinit
[10:33] <dizzer_> # /dev/sda4
[10:33] <dizzer_> UUID=87fe19b2-c5a7-44a3-bca3-cba7d53ebac3 /media/disk	ext3	exec,user,noauto,rw	0	1
[10:33] <dizzer_> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0
[10:33] <Ademan>  hey it doesn't take a restart for gconf settings to take effect does it? cause i mean i set my default browser to epiphany and yet in tomboy, gaim and several other apps when i click a web link it still pulls up firefox.  What gives? I don't know exactly how the system works but I sorta thought setting the default browser would at the very least affect tomboy
[10:33] <beanage> whats the xstop command again?
[10:34] <niina> Jordan_U: U know what i mean ?
[10:35] <Jordan_U> Ademan, What opens when you run "gnome-www-browser"
[10:35] <Ademan> Jordan_U: O_O galeon...
[10:35] <beanage> jordan_U, whats the stopx command again?
[10:35] <ganesh>  Jordan_U: i ll give u a link..can u tell me how close d window?
[10:36] <Jordan_U> beanage, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[10:36] <ganesh> http://www.megic.1go.dk/dontclickeng.htm
[10:37] <FallenHitokiri> ganesh: not funny
[10:37] <FallenHitokiri> ganesh: not even 5-6 years ago when it was created ;)
[10:38] <ganesh> FallenHitokiri:but how to close it in between?
[10:38] <opium> gay
[10:38] <FallenHitokiri> ganesh: killall firefix-bin
[10:38] <Jordan_U> ganesh, killall firefox-bin :)
[10:38] <FallenHitokiri> ganesh: the always working short way
[10:38] <spook27> shouldn't that be killall -9 ?
[10:38] <FallenHitokiri> spook27: doesn't matter in this case
[10:38] <beanage> jordan_U, I just used xinit now I'm sitting at a blank screen.
[10:39] <spook27> k
[10:39] <Jordan_U> beanage, No window with a terminal?
[10:39] <Jordan_U> spook27, No
[10:39] <ganesh> FallenHitokiri:will it not kill if i am downloading something using firefox?
[10:40] <beanage> jordan_U, just now a window came up with a X mouse pointer and a black and white fuzzy backround.
[10:40] <Jordan_U> spook27, -9 is only if the program is really far gone, not if it's just some stupid piece of javascript
[10:40] <spook27> ahh okay.  I just came in late on that one, sorry :)
[10:41] <beanage> jordan_U, I see a box tryin to open in the top left corner of the screen, okay I have a terminal now.
[10:41] <Jordan_U> beanage, Wow, that really is slow :) the xterm will show up eventually :)
[10:41] <FallenHitokiri> ganesh: IIRC is firefox a bit tricky if you download something
[10:41] <beanage> jordan_U, I have xterminal now. Taking forever to type in xinit
[10:42] <Jordan_U> beanage, Don't run xinit again
[10:42] <FallenHitokiri> is someone running feisty?
[10:42] <arbi11> hi guys, where can i find tips and tweaks to make X faster?
[10:42] <beanage> jordan_U, okay it's running full speed now
[10:42] <arbi11> been at it the whole afternoon but can't find any
[10:42] <Jordan_U> FallenHitokiri, Most of the 1106 people here I would guess :)
[10:42] <beanage> jordan_U, in xinit
[10:42] <spook27> FallenHitokiri: I'm running feisty on my laptop
[10:42] <lalala> me 2
[10:42] <FallenHitokiri> arbi11: check the gentoo wiki, those guys always claim to get everything faster ;)
[10:42] <Jordan_U> beanage, Try opening firefox
[10:42] <beanage> jordan_U, you gave me a command to type in from here, and I don't remeber what it was. If you tell me again I promise to copy it ;)
[10:43] <FallenHitokiri> Jordan_U: I won't be sure about this number ;)
[10:43] <arbi11> but alas, i don't use gentoo... i am an ubuntu lover
[10:43] <Jordan_U> beanage, It was gnome-session, but try just firefox first
[10:43] <arbi11> but maybe it could apply to all???
[10:43] <beanage> jordan_U, okay.
[10:43] <FallenHitokiri> can someone with fesity try if a  "xset +dmps; xset dpms 0 0 120" works after a reboot?
[10:43] <FallenHitokiri> or if it has to be set again
[10:43] <julius> which drivers should i grab for my ATI X1950pro? Id be happy to use the open source drivers (not beta's tho
[10:44] <lalala> 120 are Mhz ?
[10:44] <Jordan_U> julius, The open source ones are used by default
[10:44] <julius> atm ive got the vesa drivers being used
[10:44] <FallenHitokiri> arbi11: it doesn't matter. Xorg is Xorg (and there were IIRC no significant changes between the last versions that would cause some new configuration options)
[10:44] <Samuli^> I have a problem with setting my desktop resolution.
[10:45] <julius> Jordan_U: whats the name of the open ati driver? flglx?
[10:45] <beanage> how do I launch firefox from xinit terminal?
[10:45] <Jordan_U> !fixres | Samui
[10:45] <ubotu> Samui: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:45] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: Sorry, was distracted.  It looks like it's SGI.
[10:45] <FallenHitokiri> julius: fglrx is the one from ati
[10:45] <Jordan_U> beanage, run "firefox" :)
[10:45] <FallenHitokiri> julius: radeon / ati
[10:45] <Samuli^> I have the correct modes on xorg.conf, but still I can only choose 1024*768 (wanted 1280*1024)
[10:45] <julius> FallenHitokiri: which!
[10:45] <FallenHitokiri> Samuli^: paste you xorg.conf please
[10:45] <Jordan_U> Samui, Do you have an intel card?
[10:45] <Jordan_U> Samui, Pastebin
[10:45] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: it's possible it was XGL mode after all, but even so I'm still not sure how to get back to it.
[10:46] <FallenHitokiri> julius: ati is IIRC a bit more power saving while radeon was a bit faster (IIRC!)
[10:46] <Samuli^> Jordan_U, no, I have ATI rage 3D II :-)
[10:46] <arbi11> FallenHitokiri:  ok.  what about that thing that Redhat did before (or was it Fedora?), where the ran X way early in the boot up stage
[10:46] <Samuli^> one sec FallenHitokiri.
[10:46] <Samuli^> !pastebin
[10:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:46] <arbi11> FallenHitokiri: what is the disadvantage of doing it?
[10:46] <Jordan_U> FallenHitokiri, Probably not a problem with Samui, but don't tell people to "paste" anything in general, you get people flooding the channel with xorg.confs :)
[10:46] <beanage> jordan_U, run command not found
[10:47] <FallenHitokiri> arbi11: this will only cause windows some behaviour like windows - a system that claims to be running but is still booting. (you do this by changing the order your init scripts are executed)
[10:47] <Jordan_U> beanage, Do you have firefox installed?
[10:47] <beanage> I should it's a fresh install.
[10:47] <Samuli^> FallenHitokiri, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40243/
[10:47] <FallenHitokiri> Jordan_U: sommey, my fault,... I still believe that some people use their brain ;)
[10:47] <dizzer_> any1 is able to help me? ;p
[10:48] <arbi11> FallenHitokiri: my concern is that i'm on a laptop and continued hibernation in Linux ain't perfect... especially if i change from 1 wireless network to anothe
[10:48] <spook27> urgh...  which partition needs to be right at the beginning of the drive?  /boot or /root?
[10:48] <FallenHitokiri> Samuli^: just to give it a first try: delete every resolution except 1280x.. (but please backup before ;) )
[10:48] <beanage> jordan_U, I should it's a fresh install.
[10:48] <arbi11> FallenHitokiri: an booting takes too long...
[10:49] <arbi11> FallenHitokiri: with X  taking up a lot of time to come up
[10:49] <FallenHitokiri> arbi11: just don't start every service you don't need ;)
[10:49] <arbi11> FallenHitokiri: done that already... and user switchin is another concern too.  it's too slow.
[10:49] <Samuli^> k, I'll restart gdm now to see if that works
[10:50] <FallenHitokiri> arbi11: what is your hardware?
[10:50] <Hornet_> Jordan_U: how can I get it into AIXGL / XGL mode, then? :\
[10:50] <arbi11> intel core 2 duo, 1.5gig memory, SATA drive
[10:50] <arbi11> intel 945 graphhics chip
[10:51] <FallenHitokiri> arbi11: sorry but this one can not be slow...
[10:51] <arbi11> FallenHitokiri: what do you mean?  it is slow
[10:51] <FallenHitokiri> my pentium m 1.5ghz 512mb ram is runniing pretty fast (okay not with ubuntu...)
[10:51] <FallenHitokiri> arbi11: misconfiguration
[10:51] <arbi11> FallenHitokiri: it's a default install
[10:52] <arbi11> FallenHitokiri: ok what are the implications if i change X to start earlier in the boot stage? disastrous?
[10:53] <arbi11> FallenHitokiri: so that the WM don't have to wait for X to start  and it can just go do it's business once it's called... or at least that's the way i see it
[10:53] <AJ--> ei guys can i run ubuntu on a 1.7mghz 128 RAM pc?/ coz i want to set up a personal site
[10:54] <FallenHitokiri> AJ--: as server? a bit more ram would be a win
[10:54] <tom__> AJ--: i assume you mean ghz?
[10:54] <FallenHitokiri> arbi11: if you have a running X and all other services like network-manager are not running you have nothing
[10:55] <AJ--> yup tom__
[10:55] <AJ--> so 256 would be enough for that
[10:55] <tom__> AJ--: ram will be the problem your processor speed is fine
[10:55] <arbi11> FallenHitokiri: well considering that the preReqs are there already... is it viable?
[10:55] <tom__> AJ--: what do you want to do run apache?
[10:55] <AJ--> i want to run LAMP
[10:55] <tom__> AJ--: just as a server, so no x?
[10:55] <FallenHitokiri> AJ--: if you only have _some_ traffic and only a few hits this will work but without X
[10:56] <AJ--> i want to try without X
[10:56] <tom__> AJ--: should probably work
[10:56] <FallenHitokiri> arbi11: you will not get much but a little bit
[10:56] <AJ--> tnx tom
[10:56] <FallenHitokiri> AJ--: could work.
[10:57] <tom__> AJ--: np
[10:57] <tom__> FallenHitokiri: no halm in trying i guess
[10:57] <Pirate_Hunter> !themes
[10:57] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:58] <FallenHitokiri> tom__: no. but I don't know the ubuntu server installation (maybe because I never used it for servers) so I don't know whats installed - because of that I would normally suggest to run another distri.
[10:58] <sherkin> !ubotu
[10:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:58] <arbi11> every little thing counts... on a laptop i turn it on/off several times a day, coz wifi ain't perfect yet. not unless if you wanna go into the bowels of networking, w/c i hate to do when you're in a hurry
[10:58] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i make opera my default web browser and will ppl tell me if they think opera is better than FF?
[10:58] <tom__> FallenHitokiri: you're probably right
[10:59] <tom__> Pirate_Hunter: for gnome my favorite browser is epiphany
[10:59] <FallenHitokiri> Pirate_Hunter: system -> preferences -> prefered applications
[10:59] <tom__> Pirate_Hunter: to make it your default go to system > preferences > preferred applications
[10:59] <Samuli^> no worky.
[10:59] <tom__> FallenHitokiri: haha just beat me to it
[10:59] <vertigo> does anyone know of an ncurses based PDF viewer?
[11:00] <Pirate_Hunter> tom__: never heard of it so i cant exactly know where it stands against opera
[11:00] <vertigo> or any way of somewhat sanely viewing a pdf from the console?
[11:00] <tom__> Pirate_Hunter: do you use gnome?
[11:00] <tom__> vertigo: haha
[11:00] <Pirate_Hunter> tom__: yeah
[11:00] <Pirate_Hunter> FallenHitokiri: thanx
[11:00] <vertigo> tom__: it /should/ possible, right? I mean, google automatically htmlizes pdfs
[11:01] <tom__> Pirate_Hunter: well epiphany uses firefoxes engine, but it's gnome native
[11:01] <FallenHitokiri> Pirate_Hunter: opera is not perfect, firefox is not perfect and ephifany is not perfect. to say it like the mutt guys "everything sucks this one sucks less" but IMHO you have to figure out by yourself. I would not use opera because it is qt-based
[11:01] <Lawliet> Hi.  Can someone with a high level of patience please guide a Linux newb into getting a Nostromo gamepad to work? :/
[11:01] <tom__> vertigo: yeah i reckon it'd prolly work somehow
[11:01] <vertigo> so, granted graphics of course would be out, but all you really need is the text, hopefully with some of the formatting
[11:01] <Pirate_Hunter> FallenHitokiri: qt-based - whats that?
[11:02] <FallenHitokiri> Pirate_Hunter: gnome applictions use gtk as toolkit. qt is another toolkit which looks a bit diffrent and acts a bit different... so opera will not "feel" like other applications
[11:02] <arbi11> opera is QT?
[11:03] <tom__> Lawliet: what isn't working
[11:03] <arbi11> i didn't know that.. . :D you learn some everyday
[11:03] <Pirate_Hunter> FallenHitokiri: ok got yah
[11:04] <Lawliet> I have a Nostromo N50 gamepad... and I just recently installed Ubuntu... people have gotten it to work on Linux, but I'm completely new and the directions are not detailed enough.
[11:05] <Lawliet> So I was wondering if anyone has one and has gotten it working, so they could walk me through. ^^;
[11:05] <tom__> Lawliet: yeah the directions i just read seem pretty hard
[11:05] <Samuli^> finally it works
[11:05] <tom__> Lawliet: have you tried the directions?
[11:05] <Lawliet> I downloaded a driver, and I don't even know how to install it. :P
[11:06] <tom__> Lawliet: was that the one off sourceforge?
[11:06] <FallenHitokiri> Lawliet: is there a readme / install text file?
[11:06] <Lawliet> Yes.
[11:06] <Lawliet> It says uhm...
[11:07] <Lawliet> I need two more related Nostromo files, which I'm sure I can find..., something called FLTK 1.0.x as well, and then it says to use the 'usual configure/make/make install steps to build/install... but I have no idea what those steps are.
[11:07] <tom__> Lawliet: i found some directions
[11:08] <tom__> Lawliet: they go through step by step
[11:08] <Stormx2`> Lawliet: ./configure && make && sudo make install? :)
[11:08] <tom__> Lawliet: http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:http%3A//doc.gwos.org/index.php/Nostromo
[11:08] <FallenHitokiri> Lawliet: sudo apt-get install libfltk1.1 build-essential
[11:08] <Lawliet> Okay, checking out the link now :)
[11:09] <tom__> Lawliet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53558&highlight=nostromo
[11:10] <IhateCLI> Hi, why are linux's filenames case-sensitive? I find it silly and pointlessly pedantic.
[11:10] <tom__> IhateCLI: sorry dude that's just the way it is
[11:10] <Chriswaterguy> Hi - I'm having a few issues with playing videos. One is quicktime videos in firefox - I take it quicktime videos just won't play, or is there a way around it? (seehttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7 - Win & Mac links only)
[11:10] <FallenHitokiri> IhateCLI: you are totaly right. I suggest you use windows and start to be happy
[11:10] <Lawliet> Thank you for the help, attempting now :)
[11:11] <tom__> Lawliet: good luck champ
[11:11] <Lawliet> Thank ye mucho.
[11:11] <IhateCLI> FallenHitokiri: heh... Good answer. Filename conventions aren't really my basis for picking OSes though. I was just wondering what the motivation for that one was.
[11:12] <IhateCLI> FallenHitokiri: Besides, I don't like how C distinguishes case as well. =p Go Pascal!
[11:12] <Chriswaterguy> sorry, just realized I didn't hunt for the answer first - found an answer I think...
[11:12] <tom__> IhateCLI: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/why-is-linux-case-sensitive-125995/
[11:12] <FallenHitokiri> IhateCLI: this is only normal. Readme is not readme. this are 2 different words so this are 2 different files.
[11:13] <IhateCLI> But I don't know any sane people (or insane people, for that matter) who actually insist on making that distinguishment.
[11:14] <tom__> IhateCLI: but why not?
[11:14] <tom__> IhateCLI: just make everything lower case, problem solved
[11:15] <FallenHitokiri> IhateCLI: just don't use this feature and be happy.
[11:16] <IhateCLI> tom__: Hehe, not so simple. Programs make their files start with uppercase, so I can't just tab-complete the filenames. Besides, a folder called "my documents" is just decadent to look at. AND renaming Desktop might mess things up.
[11:16] <IhateCLI> I don't really have a problem with it, besides being really confused about the reasons for it.
[11:16] <tom__> IhateCLI: you can make the cli case-insensitive so it will tab complete lower and uppercase words
[11:16] <IhateCLI> tom__: Really? How?
[11:17] <et-swe> hi is there any software for ubuntu to watch tv channels on PC
[11:17] <tom__> IhateCLI: http://www.freemacunix.com/tab-completion-part-2/
[11:18] <jerry760poip> what can one do with ubuntu 7.04 on live cd with no hd?
[11:18] <tom__> et-swe: where are the tv channels from
[11:18] <FallenHitokiri> et-swe: mythtv, freevo, kdetv, vdr, xawtv, list is going on
[11:18] <tom__> jerry760poip: not a lot
[11:18] <et-swe> channels from around the world
[11:18] <tom__> et-swe: i mean do you have a tv card
[11:18] <et-swe> nope
[11:19] <FallenHitokiri> jerry760poip: everything you can do with ubuntu on a hd, beside doing a configuration that works after a reboot
[11:19] <tom__> et-swe: where are you getting the shows ffrom
[11:19] <et-swe> I thought i just download and install some kind of programm and it will find tv channels
[11:19] <Samuli^> jerry760poip, surf the net, install programs, download files etc. depends a lot on how much ram you have, I think
[11:19] <tom__> et-swe: not without a tv card
[11:20] <FallenHitokiri> tom__: thats not completly right. there are channels that broadcast via internet
[11:20] <tom__> et-swe: but you can download vodcasts
[11:20] <Samuli^> jerry760poip, because it uses ram as the harddrive
[11:20] <jerry760poip> thanks tom__ and FallenHitokiri
[11:20] <tom__> et-swe: for example you could get democracy or whatever its called now
[11:20] <IhateCLI> tom__: Hmm... Thanks. Still though, are there actually people out there who have 10 files called "SCRIPT, ScrIPT, Script, sCRIPT, ScRiPt, sCrIpT, script, scripT" and so on?
[11:20] <tom__> FallenHitokiri: thats true
[11:20] <et-swe> what do i need to download to watch tv channels that broadcast live
[11:21] <jerry760poip> Samuli^: how i find how much ram i have in the term
[11:21] <et-swe> and with out charge
[11:21] <tom__> IhateCLI: the point is, is that there is such thing as case, the only reason you find it weird is because you're used to windows
[11:21] <FallenHitokiri> jerry760poip: top
[11:21] <FallenHitokiri> jerry760poip: htop for a nicer markup
[11:21] <IhateCLI> tom__: And Pascal. Don't forget Pascal. =p
[11:21] <tom__> IhateCLI: haha :)
[11:22] <lalala> et-swe: try Democracy TV
[11:22] <IhateCLI> tom__: English doesn't really make that distinguishment either. Nor does any language I know.
[11:22] <tom__> IhateCLI: you have different case in your handle haha
[11:22] <et-swe> is it just sudo apt get install democracy tv
[11:22] <FallenHitokiri> et-swe: http://www.joost.com/
[11:23] <lalala> et-swe: add remove Applications
[11:23] <Pirate_Hunter> how can i check what GTK version ive got?
[11:23] <IhateCLI> I mean, there are *conventions*, but really, "English" is pretty much the same as "english". Well, it was back in the olden days when there was no lowercase, at least.
[11:23] <FallenHitokiri> et-swe: you will never have a space in a package name you install
[11:23] <jerry760poip> FallenHitokiri: i cant do or install htop
[11:23] <et-swe> joost its for windows due to the information i am reading
[11:23] <tom__> IhateCLI: haha do we live in the olden days or now?
[11:24] <tom__> IhateCLI: anyhow it's just the way it is, like it or lump it :)
[11:24] <jerry760poip> FallenHitokiri: ~$ sudo apt-get install htop
[11:24] <jerry760poip> Reading package lists... Done
[11:24] <jerry760poip> Building dependency tree
[11:24] <jerry760poip> Reading state information... Done
[11:24] <jerry760poip> E: Couldn't find package htop
[11:24] <FallenHitokiri> jerry760poip: hm. apt-get install htop works for me (gutsy and I am sure I also had it installed on feisty - what does a apt-cache search htop say?
[11:24] <tom__> !pastebin
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:24] <Samuli^> IhateCLI, I find case-sensitivity annoying too.
[11:25] <Samuli^> and I've used linux almost exclusively for 3-4 years now, so I don't think it's just because I'm used to windows either
[11:25] <IhateCLI> I mean, imagine a person who calls his math notebook "Notebook" and his bio notebook "NoteBook", and expects you to understand him.
[11:25] <lijian> ....33
[11:25] <lijian> KKKK
[11:25] <Pirate_Hunter> how can i check what GTK version ive got?
[11:26] <IhateCLI> Samuli^: I think it has more to do with how you get used to not thinking of case as something that matters IRL rather than windows.
[11:26] <FallenHitokiri> IhateCLI: noone cares if you understand as long as the person who uses this understands
[11:27] <guardian> hi, i used sudo -i to generate ssh keys to be able to log without password to a remote ssh server. then i installed keychain for root. then as root, i specified a cron job that launches a script that is supposed to mount a remote directory using sshfs. everything works when i try as root user but i get "remote host closed connection" when cron runs. any idea please ?
[11:27] <jerry760poip> FallenHitokiri: any ideas?
[11:27] <tom__> IhateCLI: what about in passwords, case sensitivity makes them more secure
[11:27] <FallenHitokiri> jerry760poip: apt-get update; apt-cache search ^htop
[11:27] <IhateCLI> FallenHitokiri: But by my analogy, that person is Linux. So, it *is* a problem when I have trouble understanding.
[11:27] <jerry760poip> FallenHitokiri: note live cd
[11:28] <IhateCLI> tom__: And easier to forget. Besides, why not just make it twice as long? You could even get away with 1.7 times as long if there's numbers and such.
[11:28] <jerry760poip> FallenHitokiri: nvm used top
[11:28] <FallenHitokiri> IhateCLI: as far as I know a person is no operating system. and people who create those file have something in mind if they do it this way
[11:29] <Samuli^> Pirate_Hunter,  one way might be to check if you have lib-gtk2.0-common and/or lib-gtk1.2-common installed
[11:29] <Pirate_Hunter> Samuli^: how do i do that?
[11:29] <jerry760poip> FallenHitokiri: sayes i got round 120344k free mem
[11:29] <Samuli^> Pirate_Hunter, search installed packages with that name at synaptic, for example
[11:30] <FallenHitokiri> Pirate_Hunter: dpkg -l | grep gtk | grep lib
[11:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Samuli^: thanx will do so
[11:30] <tom__> jerry760poip: or type cat /proc/meminfo
[11:30] <IhateCLI> FallenHitokiri: I don't remember even once seeing a case (hehe) where case had to matter. Seeing two filenames identical in everything but case is rare enough to begin with, and usually you can just call them file1, file2, and so on.
[11:30] <xion344> xdcc list
[11:30] <jerry760poip> FallenHitokiri:  and tom__ MemFree:        120320 kB
[11:31] <tom__> IhateCLI: you just mentioned before pascal is case sensitive
[11:31] <FallenHitokiri> jerry760poip: do you want to know how much memory you got or how much you have in your system?
[11:31] <tom__> IhateCLI: so that's an example
[11:31] <IhateCLI> tom__: It's not.
[11:31] <jerry760poip> FallenHitokiri:  and tom__  MemTotal:      1026120 kB
[11:31] <FallenHitokiri> IhateCLI: i have my tmp directory but if I need a temporary dir I just call it TMP
[11:31] <tom__> IhateCLI: well java, c++ and c are
[11:32] <Samuli^> IhateCLI, I think the convention has more to do with the fact that upper-case and lower-case letters are two completely different symbols to the computer
[11:32] <IhateCLI> tom__: C is case sensitive and it took me two hours to realize "exit(0)" didn't compile because of the case. Or "Exit(0)". I still don't remember.
[11:32] <jerry760poip> FallenHitokiri: i wanna kno how much data i can store on the lice cd
[11:32] <afief> Hello, I have setup a PPP connection for a friend using pppoeconf, now I would like to revert the changes it made so that I can connect his router new router, could someone tell me how to do that?
[11:32] <FallenHitokiri> IhateCLI: this just means that you have not learned anything about C and just tried to use it
[11:32] <Pirate_Hunter> FallenHitokiri, Samuli^: thanx ive got 2.0
[11:32] <Samuli^> IhateCLI, having the program behave that way too may simplify/speed up things for developers
[11:32] <tom__> IhateCLI: here is a list of words that mean different things in different case
[11:33] <Samuli^> Pirate_Hunter, most likely you've got both
[11:33] <tom__> IhateCLI:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_case_sensitive_English_words
[11:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Samuli^: yeah
[11:33] <jdecoste> I rock :p
[11:33] <FallenHitokiri> tom__: yeah and thats only english,... if you want a case sensitive language check german ;)
[11:33] <tom__> IhateCLI: exactly, in german all nouns are capitalised
[11:33] <tom__> FallenHitokiri: haha i know i study it at uni :)
[11:34] <beanage> I need some help (obviously) I'm trying to run feisty on my averatec 3700, but it slows to a snails pace as soon as the Xserver loads up.
[11:34] <FallenHitokiri> tom__: I was forced to learn it as native language ;)
[11:34] <tom__> FallenHitokiri: :)
[11:34] <beanage> I need help editing my  /etc/X11/xorg from the terminal
[11:34] <tom__> beanage: sure whats the matter
[11:34] <IhateCLI> tom__: but if i use only one case, you still have absolutely no problem understanding me. again my proof of that is the fact that written language started with no case.
[11:34] <FallenHitokiri> beanage: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:35] <jerry760poip> FallenHitokiri: i wanna kno how much data i can store on the lice cd
[11:35] <IhateCLI> But it does make sense that case-sensitivity would speed up compiling.
[11:35] <tom__> IhateCLI: well obviously if i used two of the words from that list in the same sentence then you would
[11:35] <FallenHitokiri> IhateCLI: feel free to develop a distribution where only lower cases are allowed
[11:36] <FallenHitokiri> jerry760poip: if I would know an answer don't you think I would give it to you if you ask? (you don't have to ask the same questions 2 times)
[11:36] <IhateCLI> tom__: you mean if i said i sacrificed all wheat grown on my two ares of land to ares, you'd get confused?
[11:36] <osfameron> IhateCLI: it's just a convention.  it's also how it works.
[11:37] <osfameron> IhateCLI: human language is more flexible than computer language because human brains are different from computers'
[11:37] <jerry760poip> sorry FallenHitokirinot sure if i asked jeesh im busy and forgot if i asked
[11:37] <FallenHitokiri> IhateCLI: yeah. compiling time matters these days. it would also speed up things if the compiler would only look at the first and last letter so that   "abc" and "adc" are the same
[11:37] <FallenHitokiri> jerry760poip: no problem ;)
[11:37] <master_> hello
[11:37] <tom__> master_: hey
[11:38] <master_> ok
[11:38] <master_> any one online
[11:38] <master_> hello?
[11:38] <tom__> a thousand of us or so
[11:38] <master_> cool i have ultimate ubuntu
[11:38] <FallenHitokiri> master_: congratulations
[11:38] <tom__> lol
[11:39] <master_> ulitmate gamers edition
[11:39] <osfameron> oh noes!  *I* wanted the ultimate one!
[11:39] <sherkin> /home/mich
[11:39] <tom__> osfameron: that's ok, just do a sudo apt-get install ultimate-edition
[11:39] <master_> it's awsome
[11:39] <newguy> hey there can someone tell me the command to remove all the rules in my IP tables so that i can have lokkit configure the iptable?
[11:39] <Arafangion> Hey guys, where can I find the *documentation* to upstart?
[11:39] <sherkin> oops, sorry
[11:39] <osfameron> tom__: but surely... there can be only one.  Do I have to challenge the master to comabt?
[11:40] <master_> upstarT?
[11:40] <Arafangion> master_: Yes, upstart.
[11:40] <IhateCLI> FallenHitokiri: Heh, why not? =p I mean, back when it mattered, they went with case sensitive so they can compile faster, then people went with case sensitive because everyone else did, and then we get what we have now.
[11:40] <tom__> Arafangion: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/
[11:40] <master_> jealous?
[11:40] <master_> lol
[11:40] <tom__> Arafangion: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[11:40] <Arafangion> tom__: Thanks.  Would you know if this is the correct irc channel, though?
[11:40] <osfameron> master_: no... "upstart" with a lower case t, haven't you been paying attention to the case sensitivity discussion? ;-)
[11:40] <odzk> hello
[11:40] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: google is your friend ;)
[11:41] <odzk> can anyone help me install the yahoo messanger
[11:41] <FallenHitokiri> IhateCLI: let's just end this. thanks
[11:41] <odzk> in ubuntu
[11:41] <Arafangion> tom__: See, I read the INSTALL page, found it was generic, so I just did a ./configure && make && make install routine.
[11:41] <FallenHitokiri> odzk: pidgim / gaim is your frind
[11:41] <master_> er... well i am a noob at ubuntu
[11:41] <FallenHitokiri> s/frind/friend/
[11:41] <tom__> odzk: i think gaim will probably work with yahoo messenger
[11:41] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: upstart is *kinda* ubuntu specific.
[11:41] <FallenHitokiri> master_: we allready know that
[11:41] <IhateCLI> ok ok I'm sorry for taking your time
[11:42] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: I know, but thanks to google you find this docs really fast ;)
[11:42] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: and some discussions about it
[11:42] <stoone> newguy: iptables -F INPUT; iptables -F OUTPUT
[11:42] <master_> well i havent used ubuntu for very long
[11:42] <odzk> i have gaim already installed
[11:42] <newguy> ah ok thanks :)
[11:42] <odzk> i tried downloading the yahoo messenger on the yahoo website
[11:42] <FallenHitokiri> odzk: why don't you use it?
[11:42] <tom__> odzk: well just add a new account with your yahoo username and password
[11:42] <odzk> its a debdian file
[11:43] <odzk> but everytime i tried installing it, it tells me
[11:43] <master_> just download windows version and open it with wine
[11:43] <tom__> odzk: just use gaim
[11:43] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: I'm not after the variety of blogs ab out it.
[11:43] <odzk> i like the looks of the yahoo messenger
[11:43] <tom__> Arafangion: the links to the wiki were on the first page of google
[11:43] <odzk> ok here's what i get when i tried installing yahoo messenger
[11:43] <tom__> odzk: ok. what happened when you double clicked the deb
[11:44] <master_> is there any good windows emulators
[11:44] <tom__> master_: you just mentioned wine
[11:44] <FallenHitokiri> master_: virtualbox, vmware,...
[11:44] <master_> yea
[11:44] <odzk> dependency is not satisfaible libssl0.9.6
[11:44] <Arafangion> tom__: Yes, I'm currently persuing that, but it's still a bit basic.
[11:44] <tom__> odzk: ok so you need to install that lib
[11:44] <FallenHitokiri> odzk: sudo apt-get install -f
[11:44] <tom__> Arafangion: mb the documentation sucks for upstart
[11:44] <Arafangion> tom__: For example, is libnih still actually required - upstart seems to contain it automatically.
[11:44] <FallenHitokiri> tom__: FULLACK
[11:44] <master_> do u have all ur updates?
[11:44] <odzk> its already installed
[11:45] <afief> Hello, I have setup a PPP connection for a friend using pppoeconf, now I would like to revert the changes it made so that I can connect his router new router, could someone tell me how to do that?
[11:45] <tom__> FallenHitokiri: exscuse me
[11:45] <Arafangion> tom__: Yeah, it does, but I'm trying to be polite, and find the people (such as you) who know it. ;)
[11:45] <odzk> and i already updated it to the newest version using synaptec
[11:45] <FallenHitokiri> tom__: ??
[11:45] <tom__> FallenHitokiri: you just said fullack i dont know what that means
[11:45] <heaven> can someone help me install a graphics driver? (Linux newbie here)
[11:45] <FallenHitokiri> tom__: full acknowlege. docs for upstart suck
[11:45] <tom__> FallenHitokiri: haha ok :)
[11:46] <FallenHitokiri> heaven: what card?
[11:46] <master_> so how many people took windows off thier pc and installed ubuntu?
[11:46] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: Sounded more like a swearword here. ;)
[11:46] <tom__> heaven: what version of ubuntu you got there bud
[11:46] <heaven> nvidia fx 5700le
[11:46] <tom__> master_: 5 mb 6
[11:46] <odzk> ill check the website again
[11:46] <etalli> master_: me
[11:46] <master_> it should be in resticted drivers
[11:46] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: FULLACK is common like IIRC IMHO,...
[11:46] <tom__> heaven: how old is that card
[11:46] <master_> restricted
[11:46] <heaven> 6.10 with updates done end everything but not to 7.03
[11:46] <heaven> 7.04 sorry
[11:47] <heaven> well its old
[11:47] <heaven> i dont care
[11:47] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: First I've come across it.
[11:47] <heaven> it's still a runner
[11:47] <tom__> heaven: ah ok, it's just in the later ubuntu it's much easier to install graphics drivers
[11:48] <master_> 6.04 ulitimate gamers edition
[11:48] <heaven> should i upgrade to 7.04
[11:48] <tom__> heaven: if you want to
[11:48] <master_> yea i have the live cd
[11:48] <heaven> would that be any help?
[11:48] <Arafangion> tom__: My background is that I'm retrofitting upstart to a custom distro, without sysv. I've applied the 'sysv patch', so I shouldn't have dangling symlinks.
[11:48] <tom__> heaven: yeah then it's just a couple of clicks and its done
[11:48] <master_> tom__:what every
[11:48] <CongTu_NhaNgheo> I want download Hack Perfeck Audition
[11:49] <heaven> ok 10x il try to upgrade oh and thanx tom for the help and for the patience
[11:49] <CongTu_NhaNgheo> Help me plz !
[11:49] <afd__> hi! We have several machines in the office, some with Windows, others Fedora, others Ubuntu, all use DHCP for IPs. The Ubuntu machines keep disconnecting and after I run "sudo dhclient eth0", I get an IP and I can connect to internet, but this only lasts for about 30 seconds. Any ideas?
[11:49] <tom__> Arafangion: sorry man i have absolutely no idea about upstart
[11:49] <tom__> heaven: np
[11:49] <CongTu_NhaNgheo> I want download Hack Perfeck Audition
[11:49] <CongTu_NhaNgheo> Help me plz !
[11:49] <tom__> afd__: try using the gnome graphical client to configure your network
[11:49] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: would you mind if I ask you why you use upstart?
[11:49] <afd__> All the other machines (windows, fedora), have no problem
[11:49] <tom__> afd__: i find it will overwrite cli settings
[11:49] <tom__> CongTu_NhaNgheo: don't repeat yourself, be patient
[11:50] <master_> hey who is double booting?
[11:50] <AnRkey> how do i check what kernel version i am running
[11:50] <AnRkey> ?
[11:50] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: I'm trying to get a system that starts /really/ quickly, and upstart is perfect for that, it seems.
[11:50] <heaven> ok he's upgrading and i guess he will reboot be right back
[11:50] <AnRkey> !kernel
[11:50] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[11:50] <FallenHitokiri> AnRkey: uname -a
[11:50] <AnRkey> ta
[11:50] <CongTu_NhaNgheo> tom__ : help me ?
[11:50] <spook27> AnRkey:  uname -a
[11:50] <AnRkey> thanks guts
[11:50] <AnRkey> guys :D
[11:50] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: Existing init systems do not generally run that many things in parallel.
[11:50] <tom__> CongTu_NhaNgheo: i don't know what hack perfect edition is
[11:50] <_HetArgje_> 6c6c6c6c6c6c6c
[11:50] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: cinit, minit,.. IMHO there are better projects
[11:50] <FallenHitokiri> _HetArgje_: 7b7b7b7b7b7b7b7b
[11:51] <heaven> well he'l restard in an hour
[11:51] <heaven> :D
[11:51] <master_> how do u guys run windows programs
[11:51] <afd__> tom__: I see. AFAIK, the gnome settings are also set on "autoconfigure". I have a laptop with kubuntu-desktop and use KDE, and at home I also have dhcp, no problems there, just here, at the office (and even here not all the time)
[11:51] <tom__> heaven: haha sure
[11:51] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: Those look like merely 'smaller' sysv systems.
[11:51] <FallenHitokiri> master_: why should someone use a windows program=
[11:51] <afd__> tom__: I know there's an incompetent netadmin here, but is there something in Ubuntu that makes it more sensible than the other machines at this kind of problems?
[11:51] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: I want something that is suitable for a laptop, and I actually want an event-based one.
[11:52] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: most are thought for speeding things up with parallel execution and event management
[11:52] <tom__> afd__: do a disable/reenable in the gui see if that helps
[11:52] <master_> well there arnt that many linux programs
[11:52] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: Yes, but they don't do it via events.
[11:52] <FallenHitokiri> master_: I hope that was a joke
[11:52] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: there were system like them for events,... but currently I don't have access to my bookmarks.
[11:53] <tom__> master_: what programs do you want to run
[11:53] <master_> seriously there arnt half as many programs
[11:53] <FallenHitokiri> master_: don't make a statment about something you have no clue about
[11:53] <jerry760poip> is there a torrnet or p2p chan?
[11:53] <master_> like dvd43 and halo and some other games
[11:53] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: Then why did Ubuntu stick with upstart?
[11:53] <master_> cause they all require windows
[11:53] <FallenHitokiri> master_: halo is a game... thats no application. what does dvd43 do?
[11:54] <etalli> !wine
[11:54] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[11:54] <rasputnik> master_: what's your point?
[11:54] <FallenHitokiri> master_: there are _alternatives_ not exactly the same
[11:54] <master_> decodes dvd protection
[11:54] <tom__> master_: dcss
[11:54] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: why does ubuntu use gnome, firefox, openoffice, ... there is a reason foreverything
[11:54] <FallenHitokiri> master_: there is more than one dvd ripper for linux available
[11:54] <master_> yea but there is a driver that the program installs and it's the only one that i find works
[11:54] <tom__> Arafangion: didnt the ubuntu guys  develop upstart
[11:55] <master_> bullshit
[11:55] <tom__> master_: language man
[11:55] <Arafangion> tom__: I'm aware of that. :)
[11:55] <master_> please tell me that was a joke
[11:55] <FallenHitokiri> master_: now move to you bathroom and wash your mouth with soap little man
[11:55] <master_> i cant even watch a movie
[11:55] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: Yes, but how many of those did Canonical specifically write?
[11:55] <master_> on my pc
[11:55] <spook27> master_:  you need libdvdcss
[11:56] <afief> master_, I am watching movies here just fine, so please let's go through this slowly: do you need to RIP your movie or watch it?
[11:56] <master_> thanks but atleat u help
[11:56] <tom__> Arafangion: i guess the ubuntu guys had some problems with init and they saw upstart as the solution
[11:56] <master_> atleast
[11:56] <master_> no i found a way
[11:56] <Arafangion> tom__: Actually, not quite.
[11:57] <master_> i use vlc or somthing
[11:57] <Arafangion> tom__: They found a problem, and found that nothing else fit the situation, so they developed upstart. This problem just happens to be the same problem I have.
[11:57] <AnRkey> i need some help here with reporting a bug
[11:57] <afief> master_, I don't know if VLC can run encrypted dvds without dcss, but if it works for you then great:D
[11:57] <AnRkey> 2.6.22-13-generic works fine with my Intel graphics, 2.6.22-14-generic does now
[11:57] <master_> so how does linux make thier money,because they pay writers
[11:57] <AnRkey> not
[11:57] <AnRkey> 2.6.22-13-generic works fine with my Intel graphics, 2.6.22-14-generic does NOT
[11:58] <Arafangion> master_: People pay for the services.
[11:58] <AnRkey> so do i report the bug to the kernel team or what?
[11:58] <jerry760poip> where can i get a list of servers for xchat
[11:58] <master_> what u mean?
[11:58] <FallenHitokiri> master_: please skip this "i have no clue but i need so say something so that people know that i life"
[11:58] <Arafangion> AnRkey: Then use 2.6.22-13.  Don't report it to the kernel team unless you can reproduce it with the latest *official* kernel, which is 2.6.23
[11:59] <AnRkey> Arafangion, sorry I meant to type that in Ubuntu+1
[11:59] <AnRkey> soz
[11:59] <master_> lol life and pc's
[11:59] <wackamole> jerry760poip: CTRL+N
[11:59] <Arafangion> AnRkey: Reply still stands. :)
[11:59] <master_> what would u do without them
[11:59] <Arafangion> AnRkey: Maybe I should be in there too. :)
[11:59] <FallenHitokiri> be happy?
[11:59] <spook27> when does gutsy ship?  the 18th?
[11:59] <jerry760poip> wackamole: in what?
[12:00] <etalli> spook27: In 7 days!
[12:00] <wackamole> jerry760poip: in x-chat
[12:00] <Lunz> how can i change the users and groups in admin?
[12:00] <spook27> cool
[12:00] <spook27> i know what i'm doing for halloween
[12:00] <etalli> spook27: They have a countdown on www.ubuntu.com
[12:00] <AnRkey> Arafangion, thanks
[12:00] <Lunz> how do i login as root?
[12:00] <master_> who plays games that u buysfrom shops on your pc
[12:00] <FallenHitokiri> Lunz: sudo -s
[12:00] <Lunz> i did
[12:00] <jerry760poip> wackamole: thanks
[12:01] <master_> u have to set the pass
[12:01] <wackamole> jerry760poip: np
[12:01] <Lunz> but i cant change the users and groups?
[12:01] <master_> tom u there?
[12:01] <spook27> so long as it's easy to turn off "stupid bling" mode, i'm looking forward to upgrading
[12:01] <Kudak> guys, how can i change my /mount/sda1 drive to be writeable aswell? its at read-only mode
[12:01] <FallenHitokiri> Lunz: vi /etc/group
[12:01] <master_> well i dont know how to login as root
[12:01] <etalli> master_: You might want to check out WINE and Cedega, they'll help you run Windows apps on Linux.
[12:01] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: Why don't you like vim?
[12:02] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: vi is a link to vim, you won't find a distri that ships the "originial" vi
[12:02] <spook27> oooh, the countdown timer was javascript
[12:02] <spook27> no wonder i didn't see it
[12:02] <Lunz> why i cant change it at the gdm menu?
[12:02] <master_> etalli: i tryed wine but it wont do,i want cedga!!
[12:02] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: True, but if vim finds out that it was started as 'vi', then it starts in vi-compatible mode.
[12:02] <FallenHitokiri> master_: and that is good. you don't want to work as root. (security reasons)
[12:03] <Kudak> how is it possible to change /media/sda* drivers permissions ?
[12:03] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: what's doesn't raelly matter if you just want to edit a config
[12:03] <Lunz> i want to change the permission of the users
[12:03] <master_> why are my rights so limited?
[12:03] <Chriswaterguy> I'm finding video codecs confusing. If I install all the codecs for a program (e.g. VLC or Realplayer) should I be able to play basically any video file?
[12:03] <FallenHitokiri> Kudak: chmod
[12:03] <Lunz> what should i do?
[12:03] <master_> i cant do nothing in ubuntu
[12:03] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: I like being able to use my cursor keys and stuff. :)
[12:03] <FallenHitokiri> master_: use debian
[12:03] <master_> chriswaterguy: yea
[12:04] <etalli> master_: Cedega is a paid service, but if you like that kind of thing, or you are really interested in running Halo, you can go to http://www.transgaming.com/
[12:04] <master_> fallenhitokiri: um..... noob here
[12:04] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: works perfectly if you use "vi" on ubuntu :p
[12:04] <Lunz> i want to change the permission of the users what should i type at the command line?
[12:04] <FallenHitokiri> master_: the word with l would describe it better
[12:04] <master_> etalli: yea but i dont wana pay
[12:04] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: That wasn't always the case. :)  I stopped using vi ages ago - then again, ubuntu could well have disabled the 'vi-compatibility' feature.
[12:05] <master_> debian operating system?
[12:05] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: If that's the case, my argument is moot, because this is #ubuntu, after all. :)
[12:05] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: .zshrc alias vi='vim' ;)
[12:05] <etalli> master_: Then, if you really need to play these games, and you "cant do nothing in ubuntu"  I'd suggest you go back to Windows.
[12:05] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: now I know why I had no trouble with vi compatibility since I run zsh ;)
[12:05] <master_> yea one problem, i get to many blue screens and two i dont have windows disc lol
[12:06] <master_> etalli: i cant put windows back on lol
[12:06] <Lunz> i want to change the permission of the users what should i type at the command line?
[12:06] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: Heh, I'm about to install zsh, incidentially. bash has annoyed me for the last time.
[12:06] <Kudak> FallenHitokiri: it says Read-only file system
[12:06] <master_> zsh?
[12:06] <FallenHitokiri> Kudak: sudo ;)
[12:06] <spook27> Lunz: check out chmod
[12:07] <Kudak> FallenHitokiri: i used sudo :)
[12:07] <etalli> master_:  W/E.  Then live without your games.  OR pay for Cedega.  OR wait until they work with WINE by which time you will no longer want to play them
[12:07] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: bash annoyed me since suse / redhat 5.x :/
[12:07] <master_> etalli: well what do u do?
[12:07] <Kudak> FallenHitokiri: its ntfs btw
[12:07] <FallenHitokiri> Kudak: a sudo chmod -R 777 /media/sda1 to make a usb device readable / writeable for everyone tells you you don't have permission?
[12:07] <Lunz> i want to change the permission of the users and groups what should i type at the command line?
[12:08] <etalli> master_: I don't understand what you mean.
[12:08] <FallenHitokiri> Kudak: arrrr.. you should have mentioned that ;) you want ntfs-3g
[12:08] <etalli> master_: Can you rephrase your question?
[12:08] <master_> etalli: like do u have windows on another computer or u double boot or u do play games at all
[12:09] <etalli> master_:  I do have Windows Vista on another computer, but I have no interest in games.
[12:09] <master_> etalli: are u no games player?
[12:09] <Lunz> how do i login as root in gui?
[12:09] <spook27> Lunz:  DON'T
[12:09] <master_> etalli:................omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg!!!
[12:10] <blizz> hi
[12:10] <Arafangion> FallenHitokiri: I can never remember how to do a damn loop properly. :( I figure that no other shell could possibly do it worse, so I'm about to give zsh a go. ;)
[12:10] <spook27> Lunz: if you need to run an application with permissions, use gksudo
[12:10] <blizz> i installed compiz-fusion, how can i get emerald-like window decorations now?
[12:10] <FallenHitokiri> Arafangion: lol
[12:10] <blizz> uh, i should install emerald..
[12:10] <mocie_girl> arsa
[12:11] <mocie_girl> hello
[12:11] <master_> etalli: what do u rather?
[12:11] <osc> Hi all
[12:11] <master_> etalli:windows or linux
[12:11] <mocie_girl> i don't know
[12:11] <Lunz> i cant change my users permission,how do i change that at gui not command line
[12:11] <osc> if I am remastering cds and distributing it, then should I take permission of anybody?
[12:11] <etalli> master_: Do you mean "What do you prefer?"  because rather is not a verb.
[12:12] <spook27> lunz : right-click on the file
[12:12] <Lunz> spook27 how do u wanna run gksudo in gui?
[12:12] <spook27> there should be something for permissions there
[12:12] <FallenHitokiri> osc: if it is gpl-software - no
[12:12] <master_> etalli:seriously are u a teacher?
[12:12] <etalli> master_: In response, I do not prefer either, I use them equally, but for different tasks.
[12:12] <spook27> lunz : seriously, use the command line, it's much quicker for tasks like this
[12:12] <FallenHitokiri> Lunz: alt+f
[12:12] <FallenHitokiri> 2
[12:12] <osc> I mean all packages that ubuntu provides
[12:13] <Lunz> spook27 here is the error You are not allowed to access the system configuration
[12:13] <spook27> does it ask for a password or anything?
[12:13] <Lunz> nope..
[12:13] <spook27> that's odd
[12:13] <etalli> master_: No, I am not a teacher.  But that sentence was incomprehesible until your second post.
[12:13] <Lunz> what do u mean odd?
[12:14] <master_> etalli:either rather prefer differnt in response Capatal Letters
[12:14] <Jonah> hey guys, is there an easy way to mount a drive from the ubuntu livecd just so i can change my xorg.conf as i messed it up
[12:14] <Lunz> how do i change the users and groups permission??
[12:14] <afief> master_, nobody said Ubuntu/Linux/OpenSource is perfect for everybody. If you cannot do without games by all means, use windows, or dual boot, or get a console. I am sorry but even Cedega won't run all games perfectly.
[12:14] <etalli> master_: What?
[12:14] <FallenHitokiri> Jonah: sudo mount /dev/{h,s}d{a..z}x /mnt
[12:14] <Lunz> spooky tell me how to login as root in the gui
[12:14] <master_> afief:bit slow
[12:15] <Jonah> FallenHitokiri, cool i'll try that
[12:15] <master_> etalli: u acting like a teacher and u killing me seriously
[12:15] <afief> master_, windows is? well that's something you will have to put up with, either that or help the people developing Wine so that you will be able to run the games on Linux
[12:15] <Lunz> spooky tell me how to login as root in the gui
[12:16] <etalli> master_: But, but, what in the world does that mean?
[12:16] <Lunz> spook27 tell me how to login as root in the gui
[12:16] <master_> etalli:rather is not a verb
[12:16] <afief> Lunz, it is VERY not recommended to login as root. tell me what you want to do, perhaps I can help you
[12:16] <Lunz> how do i change the users and groups permission??
[12:16] <etalli> master_: "either rather prefer different in response Capital Letters?" Please translate.
[12:17] <afief> et-swe, system->administrator->users and groups
[12:17] <afief> etalli, system->administrator->users and groups
[12:17] <Lunz> afief error
[12:17] <master_> etalli: i will tell u Straight, They are a bunch of words
[12:17] <Lunz> can access
[12:18] <etalli> afief: What do you mean?
[12:18] <Lunz> afief The configuration could not be loaded u are not allowed to access the system configuration.
[12:18] <master_> afief:what if u change you user group to root?
[12:18] <Lunz> afief The configuration could not be loaded u are not allowed to access the system configuration.
[12:18] <master_> etalli:what do u use linux for?
[12:19] <Lunz> afief: The configuration could not be loaded u are not allowed to access the system configuration.
[12:19] <afief> Lunz, that means you don't have sudo rights on your system, you need to log into an account that has those rights
[12:19] <cafuego> If it says that, please file a bugreport to have "u" changed to "you".
[12:20] <master_> yea but when he created his must not be system admin
[12:20] <Lunz> afief howwwwwwwwwwwwwww?????
[12:20] <etalli> master_: I use Linux on my laptop, so I use it when I want to be mobile.
[12:20] <master_> etalli: yea
[12:20] <etalli> master_: Anyway, I have to go.  Bye.
[12:20] <master_> cya
[12:20] <Lunz> afief howwwwwwwwwwwwwww?????that is why i want to login as root and change all the permission!!!!!!!!
[12:21] <emillo> anyone knows where to find a 7.10beta iso?
[12:21] <afief> Lunz, an option would be to chose the Recovery option in Grub(the menu you see before the ubuntu splash screen) it logs you in as root, then try to type startx to get a gui
[12:21] <master_> python
[12:22] <master_> is 7.10 out?
[12:22] <cafuego> No, not for another week at least.
[12:22] <FallenHitokiri> master_: yes python 7.10 is out, currently working on 12X
[12:22] <FallenHitokiri> *scnr*
[12:22] <DjViper> cafuego: 18.10
[12:22] <cafuego> Unless it's delayed. Yes.
[12:23] <master_> fallenhitkiri:whats the benifits?
[12:23] <FallenHitokiri> master_: don't know, I use perl
[12:24] <master_> how many linux operating systems do they have?
[12:24] <cafuego> python 3.0 isn't out yet. you decide on 7.10.
[12:24] <master_> ulitimate gamers edition
[12:24] <FallenHitokiri> 2.6.23 - some that were not released
[12:25] <master_> who has ubuntu ulitmate gamers edition?
[12:25] <master_> you should all get it
[12:25] <cafuego> I can remember the good old days when trolls could at least spell properly.
[12:25] <master_> tho.. i cant get frostwire pro to load
[12:26] <FallenHitokiri> cafuego: you mean the good old days when someone kicked them after their first post?
[12:26] <afief> master_, There is no ubuntu ultimate gamer edition, that's Vista Ultimate you're talking about AFAIK
[12:26] <cafuego> FallenHitokiri: Well, when I still had enough sense to use /ignore anyway.
[12:26] <master_> afief: look it up on google
[12:27] <Lawliet> Hi.  I'm trying to 'make' FLTK and I keep getting an error that it cannot find '-lXext'.  I'e been trying to google it for the last hour but haven't found anything helpful.  Anyone know what I can do about this error? ><
[12:27] <FallenHitokiri> cafuego: you start to wonder when your file is about 98kb
[12:27] <master_> it's not from the people who made ubuntu
[12:27] <dzk> How can I install RealPlayer on my new Ubuntu  ? ?
[12:28] <afief> Lawliet, did you try `sudo apt-get build-dep fltk`?
[12:28] <master_> add/remove
[12:28] <Lawliet> Will try :)
[12:28] <cafuego> heh, impressive :-)
[12:28] <master_> oor packet manager
[12:28] <master_> or
[12:28] <cafuego> package
[12:28] <dzk> master_ can't find it in the search
[12:28] <Lawliet> Ehhh.  Unable to find source package for fltk.
[12:28] <master_> dzk:packet manager?
[12:29] <cafuego> dzk: You need the repo for commerial packages as well. let me see if I can find it.
[12:29] <dzk> Synaptic
[12:29] <master_> yea
[12:29] <dzk> cafuego, okay waiting
[12:29] <afief> Lawliet, what is fltk anyway? I don't know this program/package
[12:29] <cafuego> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[12:29] <FallenHitokiri> afief: toolkit like gtk / qt
[12:29] <dzk> I downloaded .bin and .rpm both files from real.com/linux
[12:30] <cafuego> dzk: That repo ^^ has a packaged real version.
[12:30] <Lawliet> Umm.  It was something I needed because I am trying to install a nostromo gamepad... I really have no clue.
[12:30] <FallenHitokiri> dzk: chmod +x *.bin; ./.bin    or alien for rpms
[12:30] <Lawliet> I just want my gamepad, it's been like 3hrs of installing random stuff because of it. T_T
[12:30] <Lawliet> And many errors.
[12:30] <timmie> hi
[12:30] <master_> i have 250 updates
[12:30] <afief> Lawliet, do this: `sudo apt-get build-deb libfltk1.1`
[12:30] <dzk> thanks
[12:30] <master_> u thanking me?
[12:31] <afief> Lawliet, I cannot imagine what this has to do with gamepads though...
[12:31] <Lawliet> Invalid operation
[12:31] <FallenHitokiri> Lawliet: write a tutorial when you are done ;)
[12:31] <Kudak> how can i attack subtitles to a movie ???
[12:31] <FallenHitokiri> afief: gui toolkit for configuration app?
[12:31] <master_> make a youtube video
[12:31] <cafuego> Lawliet: Most USB gamepads I know of need to be plugged in and then "just work".
[12:31] <Lawliet> I don't know either.  I'm just on some tutorial on installing it and I need fltk.
[12:31] <Kudak> when the subs are in the same folder as the movie the movie wont load up
[12:31] <Lawliet> Lol fallen, I could try. ;)
[12:31] <FallenHitokiri> Kudak: Kino iirc
[12:31] <afief> Lawliet, `sudo apt-get build-dep libfltk1.1` sorry for the typo
[12:32] <Kudak> FallenHitokiri: Kino iirc ???
[12:32] <master_> whats the run button on super tux
[12:32] <FallenHitokiri> Kudak: sorry didn't get it. i thought you want to create a movie and add some subs. kino is a video editing software
[12:32] <afief> FallenHitokiri, oh... well after a while of using text file for configurations you forget that this stuff exists(especially after spending 3 days setting up gentoo)
[12:32] <dspstv> hia, need help to understand where is inittab or where can i add a service in edgy
[12:32] <FallenHitokiri> master_: [esc] 
[12:32] <master_> no thats menu
[12:33] <Lawliet> cafuego: This one is not made for Linux, but people are making it work and I got ahold of a driver from sourceforge... but it needs 'fltk' also.
[12:33] <apparle> Can P4 use 64bit Kubuntu
[12:33] <FallenHitokiri> afief: after 3 days with gentoo you don't exist anymore (the only reason why god would allow suicide)
[12:33] <Lawliet> afief: That works
[12:33] <Kudak> FallenHitokiri: i wanna see a movie with subtitles, but when the subs in the same folder with the movie the movie wont load up, only when i remove the subs it works
[12:33] <dspstv> i just need to add a respawn but since theres no inittab anymore im lost
[12:33] <FallenHitokiri> master_: press it 3 times
[12:33] <master_> that gets out of it
[12:33] <afief> Lawliet, great:) this should download all the dependencies you need to build that package
[12:33] <cafuego> Lawliet: Ah ok, I'll shut up then :-)
[12:33] <FallenHitokiri> master_: you are pressing the keys to slow
[12:34] <Lawliet> afief: Thank ya, we'll see in a second ;)
[12:34] <afief> FallenHitokiri, agreed:D after 3 days of compilation sound didn't work so I formatted it and installed ubuntu again:D
[12:34] <cafuego> Kudak: you download a movie and subs seperately? Pirated? And now you want help?
[12:34] <master_> lol i can tell ur lieing because at first u said once and now ur saying 3 times
[12:34] <FallenHitokiri> afief: heh. arch would have been so much easier ;)
[12:34] <jono> everyone! ubuntu open week is announced! go and digg it http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Open_Week_Announced
[12:34] <Lawliet> cafuego: Haha, it's cool.  It sure would be nice if it worked just like that, though.
[12:35] <FallenHitokiri> master_: yes you are right. its f1
[12:35] <master_> press ctrl+w
[12:35] <timmie> FAllenHitokiri: yeah, arch is the leetest distribution in the universe
[12:35] <master_> u have never played before have u
[12:35] <Kudak> cafuego: if u must know, its lost and i have taped that using my video-tv card, and yes i download subtitles
[12:35] <afief> FallenHitokiri, probably:) I just wanted a system where I don't have to wait 6 months for updates(had to use betas twice already because I needed a newer version of Mono)
[12:35] <Kudak> cafuego: if you MUST know.
[12:35] <Lawliet> afief: Thank you!  The 'making' of Fltk was flawless now.
[12:36] <FallenHitokiri> timmie: IMHO not really but less trouble than gentoo and a solid one
[12:36] <Lawliet> Now to move on and run into more errors :D
[12:36] <apparle> jono: What is "ubuntu open week"
[12:36] <afief> Lawliet, you are welcome, but why are you compiling your own fltk? wouldn't installing the one that comes with ubuntu have been much easier?
[12:36] <jono> apparle: read the page :)
[12:36] <master_> yea
[12:36] <tom__> well if it's not the internets jono bacon
[12:37] <Lawliet> I'm just doing what the tutorials told me to do.  I just switched from Windows a couple days ago so I'm new and stupid. :)
[12:37] <master_> it's automatig and not much work is needecx
[12:37] <master_> sweet
[12:37] <FallenHitokiri> afief: well, arch works great for me - at least after i stopped using testing :>
[12:37] <jono> tom__: :)
[12:37] <tom__> jono: hehe
[12:37] <master_> i wish i had a tutorial that i could paste and copy and say it's my own
[12:38] <Kudak> cafuego: gone all quiet ???
[12:38] <master_> yea he is emo
[12:39] <Shyde> what player are you using Kudak?
[12:39] <Shyde> you could try out another one, or run it from terminal to see if there are any error messages
[12:39] <afief> Lawliet, most tutorials will tell you to install some kind of program and direct you to the source code, but modern linux distros can save you the effort of compiling(no normal user should have to compile anything usually) by providing a repository of software. If you open you Synaptic Package Manager you can intall fltk from there(it's just point and click, very easy)
[12:39] <tom__> jono: are there any plans to move to using pulseaudio instead of esd for default in ubuntu?
[12:39] <Kudak> Shyde: Totem.
[12:39] <Lawliet> D:
[12:40] <afief> Lawliet, so as a rule of the thumb: when a tutorial says "compile/install program X" you should look for X in Synaptic first
[12:40] <master_> i go to go
[12:40] <jono> tom__: I am not the best person to ask, but I hope so :)
[12:40] <master_> i got to go
[12:40] <Lawliet> Will keep that in mind. Thanks for the tip :P
[12:40] <master_> see u guys later, maybe
[12:40] <Shyde> Kudak, I don't have that here but try running it from a terminal and make it crash
[12:40] <master_> cya
[12:40] <tom__> jono: i hope so too, sound seems to be the last frontier of decent linux worky-ness
[12:40] <afief> tom__, I heard they are planning something like that for Feisty+2
[12:41] <Kudak> Shyde: what do you mean make it crash ??
[12:41] <tom__> afief: ah ok
[12:41] <jo1> whenever i leave my pc alone for a while or manually 'suspend' the session, when i try to log back in i get a yellow msg at the top "   Linu" and cannot get back in without a hard reboot - any help?
[12:42] <Shyde> Kudak, hm maybe I understood you wrong, anyway just open the movie with the subtitles in the folder and check if you get any error messages
[12:42] <Kudak> Shyde: yes i do, Internal Fatal flow error.
[12:43] <awalton__> jono, will the open week sessions be logged anywhere for those of us otherwise engaged during those times?
[12:43] <tom__> jo1: is it a desktop
[12:43] <temper> is there any specific identification(except IP ) for computers ? if yes ,then how to find it ?
[12:43] <jono> awalton__: yep, should be :)
[12:44] <Shyde> Kudak, I guess that could pretty much mean anything. I'd simply try another player like VLC or mplayer
[12:44] <jono> everyone - you should go and spread the word about open week - go and blog, tell your grandmother, or whatever else is needed :)
[12:44] <PriceChild> temper, on a network... the mac address?
[12:44] <PriceChild> jono, #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[12:44] <temper> how to find it ?
[12:44] <tom__> jono: haha not everyone is paid to blog about ubuntu ;)
[12:45] <jono> tom__: hehe
[12:45] <lunz> how do i login as root in gui?
[12:45] <tom__> lunz: it isn't a great idea
[12:45] <tom__> lunz: what do you need to do?
[12:45] <lunz> please just tell me..
[12:46] <wackamole> temper:  your own should be listed as HWaddr when you ifconfig
[12:46] <LordMetroid> temper: there are many ways a computer can give ID
[12:46] <LordMetroid> CPU has a specific number, so do netwoork interface hardware
[12:46] <afief> lunz, didn't the way I told you about work?
[12:46] <tom__> lunz: i'm not really sure how to i'd have to look it up, there are easier ways to get gui work done as root though
[12:46] <lunz> didnt worrrrkkk!!!!
[12:46] <tom__> lunz: for example with gksudo
[12:46] <PriceChild> temper, btw if you don't address your question to me after my response i may not see yours :)
[12:47] <lunz> i just want to change the users and groups...
[12:47] <temper> how to find CPU specific number ?
[12:47] <afief> tom__, as far as i understand it he has no account that has sudo rights, so gksudo won't work
[12:47] <lunz> just tell me the easier way..
[12:47] <tom__> afief: if he has no account with sudo rights, how is he going to get a root user
[12:47] <tom__> afief: is it his machine?
[12:47] <heaven> 2 minutes remaining... <sigh>
[12:47] <tom__> heaven: haha it'll be worth it :)
[12:47] <afief> tom__, do you know the command to add a specific user to the sudo group?
[12:48] <PriceChild> temper, no not pm. And I don't know.
[12:48] <heaven> i sure hope you'r right
[12:48] <tom__> afief: hmmm i have known it...
[12:48] <Frogzoo> afief: visudo
[12:48] <lunz> alief:i i cant view the users and group menu in the system/administration
[12:48] <afief> tom__, I do not know, but it seems so, if he's a hacker I am sure he would be familiar with it already:)
[12:48] <psypher246> hey everyone, can anyone give me some advice. i just got a new 64bit amd socket 939 board with an on board geforce 6100 gpu. and i'm having very strange issues. my scre4en has these weird random jolts every 20 seconds or or, don't know how describe it, the whole screen flashes with a bent image of the desktop just for a split second. and when watching video the image freezes while audio continues for about 30 seconbds and then the video catches up.
[12:48] <tom__> afief: haha
[12:48] <Frogzoo> afief: oh - sudo adduser user admin
[12:49] <tom__> afief: to add new users to sudo its this
[12:49] <Shyde> well "sudo passwd" to set a root password but that won't help if you can't run sudo
[12:49] <tom__> afief: sudo usermod -G admin username
[12:49] <psypher246> this happens with the xubuntu 64bit live cd aswell
[12:49] <tom__> hold on dont use that
[12:49] <tom__> afief: sudo usermod -a -G admin username
[12:49] <FlyingPoop> hello
[12:49] <tom__> FlyingPoop: hey
[12:49] <FlyingPoop> :)
[12:50] <afief> lunz, there you go `usermod -G admin username` do that from command line after logging in as root the way I told you before
[12:50] <tom__> afief: no use the second one!
[12:50] <afief> lunz, of course you have to replace "username" with your username
[12:50] <tom__> lunz: use this one instead sudo usermod -a -G admin username
[12:50] <lunz> waittt
[12:50] <afief> lunz, tom__ is saying you should use sudo usermod -a -G admin username, and since I don't know what he's saying I am just telling you about it:D
[12:50] <afief> lunz, yes?
[12:50] <temper> any other know ,how to find CPU specific number ?
[12:51] <tom__> afief: lol that got complicated nice and quick
[12:51] <tom__> temper: how to find out about your cpu?
[12:51] <lunz> ok
[12:51] <lunz> i will try
[12:51] <tom__> lunz: good luck
[12:51] <afief> lunz, after doing that your user should be an admin and you will be able to use the gui for this stuff
[12:52] <tom__> afief: how the hell does he not have access to a sudo user on his own machine
[12:53] <afief> tom__, my guess would be that he created a new user who doesn't have admin right and deleted his old admin account
[12:53] <tom__> afief: haha i guess that is quite possible
[12:53] <afief> tom__, a friend of mine didn't like the usernames I made on his PC, so he deleted the accounts and made new ones, forgetting to set passwords, so he ended up not being able to log into the machine
[12:54] <tom__> afief: i've seriously screwed up machines so i can't login anymore, but that was messing around with permissions
[12:54] <tom__> afief: man that made me angry let me tell you that
[12:55] <afief> tom__, don't get me started:D I started Linux with Fedora4 about two and a half years ago, for the first week I used to reinstall the system(4 CDs!!!) 3 times a day
[12:56] <berent> is there any tool in ubuntu which can be used to create a audiovisual flash animation using the storyboard pictures i have
[12:56] <tom__> afief: haha yeah i've been using linux for a while, i remember when 4.10 came out and i nearly cried for joy about how good ubuntu was
[12:56] <tom__> berent: to author flash files? i don't think so, but i'm not sure.
[12:57] <a-atwood> afief: heh. try starting out w/ slackware 3.3.
[12:57] <afief> berent, as far as I know there is no program to author flash animations, but there is a program called synergy that can do some great things very similar to Flash(and it uses the storyboard concept)
[12:58] <jerry760poip> hi i got a question not sure if this is were to ask but here is the link  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40245/
[12:58] <afief> tom__, I tried 5.04 first, decided I didn't like it, tried fedora, stayed away for 6 months, got back to ubuntu 5.10 and converted:D
[12:59] <temper> how to find the address of any file in hard disk ?
[12:59] <berent> afief : by storyboards you mean in what format ? i mean does it need to have an extension
[12:59] <tom__> temper: locate filename
[12:59] <berent> !synergy
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synergy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <tom__> temper: unless you recently created or moved it then you need to 'sudo updatedb && locate filename'
[01:00] <afief> jerry760poip, get a lawyer:S I don't know what other advise I can give you
[01:00] <temper> thank you
[01:00] <jerry760poip> afief: none around know what to do
[01:00] <afief> berent, I do not know exactly, I only read up on the tutorials a bit, but never actually used the software
[01:01] <aphy> hi
[01:01] <afief> jerry760poip, call them, tell them they are welcome to check out your PC. if you're clean you shouldn't give a damn
[01:01] <afief> aphy, hi
[01:01] <aphy> i am boy
[01:01] <aphy> and you
[01:01] <aphy> afief
[01:02] <tom__> LOL
[01:02] <afief> Will anybody blame me if i /ignore aphy?:D
[01:02] <tom__> hahahaha
[01:02] <tom__> that has made my night
[01:02] <jerry760poip> afief: u join me in room ###afiefel dont wana flood this chan with off topic
[01:02] <afief> tom__, night? it's just 13:00 here:)
[01:03] <berent> !quicksynergy
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quicksynergy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <tom__> afief: i'm in melbourne
[01:03] <aphy> 
[01:03] <afief> tom__, ah, I'm in Israel
[01:04] <cherva> what filesystem should i use for a 1Ghz 256mn RAM laptop EXT3 or EXT2 (wasn't EXT3 not recomended on slow machines ? ) I'm installing xubuntu 7.04
[01:04] <aphy> afief
[01:04] <tom__> afief: ah k sweet
[01:05] <tom__> cherva: ext3
[01:05] <Innomen> morning everyone, today I finally square away my video, hopefully with your help. :) How would I make ubuntu fully recognize my video card?
[01:05] <Blackkatt> can some one help me with xbmc install?
[01:05] <cherva> tom_ thx
[01:05] <tom__> Innomen: what version of ubuntu are you using
[01:05] <tom__> cherva: np
[01:05] <Innomen> tom__: 7.04
[01:05] <afief> cherva, your machine is relatively fast for Ext3/2, so go with ext3. ext2 is for VERY old machines(less than 300MHz I think)
[01:05] <Blackkatt> i dont understand how to intall it
[01:06] <tom__> Innomen: go to system > administration > restricted driver manager
[01:06] <tom__> Blackkatt: on an xbox?
[01:06] <Blackkatt> tom__:  now on Ubuntu
[01:06] <Innomen> tom__:  i see an ati driver that is not in use
[01:06] <cherva> if I install xubuntu on 256 ram are 200Mb swap enought
[01:06] <cherva> enough*
[01:07] <jehellem> eragro-dev
[01:07] <tom__> Innomen: do you have an ati card
[01:07] <Innomen> yes
[01:07] <tom__> cherva: just use the default
[01:07] <afief> berent, sorry I got the wrong package name, this is the one I meant: http://www.synfig.com/
[01:07] <aphy> hi
[01:07] <tom__> Innomen: enable that sucker
[01:07] <cherva> k
[01:07] <Blackkatt> Innomen: use http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[01:07] <berent> afief : i was lost :-) thanks
[01:07] <bottiger> doesn't ubuntu have a simple http query tool. which just queryes a website and returns the result (headers included) in a easy to read way? sort of like: http://mbn.dk/q/
[01:07] <tom__> Blackkatt: he has an ati card
[01:07] <Innomen> tom__:  damn this color sceme, there's a checkbox that i cant see, but know where it should be and i clicked it, hold on
[01:08] <Blackkatt> tom so?
[01:08] <tom__> Innomen: lol
[01:08] <Blackkatt> it works for that aswell
[01:08] <CP> hi
[01:08] <CP> 
[01:08] <tom__> Blackkatt: sorry, i assumed because of the name. i think he should try the official way first.
[01:08] <Blackkatt> naah i dosent work
[01:08] <Blackkatt> use that program its superb
[01:08] <Blackkatt> it*
[01:09] <Innomen> Blackkatt: i will if this fails :)
[01:09] <tom__> Blackkatt: i wouldn't know i have an nvidia card :)
[01:09] <berent> !synfig
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <Innomen> Blackkatt: i had to do something like that for my network card
[01:09] <afief> berent, please don't forget to show us your work when you're done(upload it to youtube "free software animation" or something:D)
[01:09] <CP> who is chinese
[01:09] <berent> afief : sure ,if it helps.
[01:09] <Innomen> youtube ubuntu tutorials, now there's an idea
[01:10] <afief> berent, sudo apt-get install synfig works though:)
[01:10] <berent> yes
[01:10] <Blackkatt> if u say so i spent two days trying to fix my gfx nothing worked then i found this on Ubuntus forum, fixed all in no time
[01:10] <Innomen> tom__: thanks tom
[01:10] <tom__> Innomen: did it work
[01:11] <Innomen> Blackkatt: computers are like snowflakes, it might not happen that way for me, i prefer standard if possible
[01:11] <Innomen> tom__: still downloading my newcard still dosent work fully
[01:11] <Innomen> netcard*
[01:11] <Blackkatt> ok suite ur self :)
[01:11] <Innomen> tom__: was thanking you for the help anyway
[01:11] <tom__> Innomen: that's a great metaphor about snow flakes
[01:11] <Innomen> Blackkatt: always do heheh
[01:12] <tom__> Innomen: np i live to give :)
[01:12] <Blackkatt> anyone cant get that xbmc working
[01:12] <Blackkatt> sudo apt-get install subversion.. well yeah then what?
[01:12] <Blackkatt> it downloads but then i cant find any XBMC folder so i cant run that script
[01:13] <Innomen> tom__: i usta play armored core, the game has 64000 parts give or take, and i usta say mechs are like snowflakes as a result, and then i realized computers have far more than 64000 so the same must apply, thank you :)
[01:13] <afief> berent, anything you can show us already?
[01:14] <berent> afief : installing it ; but it says its  "vector-based 2D animation package" - wonder if its same as blender!!
[01:14] <graveguard> mhh ich hab ein problem mit kvirc... ich hab mir von dem kvirc ftp die neuste version geladen aber das sind 2 deb pakete... und die sind gegenseitig voneinander abhngig... wie bekomm ich das nun installiert?
[01:14] <graveguard> sry wrong channel
[01:15] <Innomen> Hmmm, if computers are snowflakes, does that make systems engineers ice sculptors? If so, the need to sell chainsaws on newegg.
[01:15] <afief> berent, nah blender is 3d animation/modelling/rendering. although I love blender
[01:16] <afief> berent, I mean the storyboard and stuff, would be nice to have a sneakpeak
[01:16] <Woifi1988> help plz. i lost my freenode password. what can i do?
[01:16] <Jeruvy> Woifi1988: try #freenode
[01:17] <Woifi1988> okay
[01:17] <Hed> whats this channel for ?
[01:18] <Shyde> topic says it
[01:18] <Hed> whats ubuntu?
[01:18] <Shyde> a linux distribution
[01:18] <stefg> !ubuntu
[01:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[01:19] <Hed> i don't know nothing about linux :P
[01:19] <stefg> Hed: then you should read about it. and rejoin this channel when you've done it :-)
[01:20] <berent> afief : it needs a SIF file. dont know what it is!! Also came by this -http://youmakemedia.com/2007/02/14/celtx-releases-099/
[01:20] <Hed> lol
[01:20] <Hed> nevermind
[01:20] <Hed> :)
[01:20] <tom__> lol wtf
[01:21] <Woifi1988> when a program runs as root and then starts another program, what owner does this program have? Also root?
[01:21] <stefg> yes
[01:21] <Woifi1988> sure?
[01:21] <Woifi1988> also with asterisk=
[01:22] <berent> afief : there is one more synfigstudio which has GUI . Let me find it helps
[01:22] <stefg> Woifi1988: if it's a direct spawn, then it's run under the same user. there are exemptions (setuid), but ususally the former is tue
[01:22] <afief> berent, oh you were using the command line version? I can't imagine someone doing animation there:D
[01:23] <berent> afief : :-P
[01:23] <Woifi1988> stefg: Thx
[01:24] <afief> berent, you should try animating in C or assembly:-P
[01:24] <Jeruvy> interesting.  I found out if you turn on desktop effects, and access the machine via vncviewer you lose right mouse clicks.  The window doesn't translate to vncviewer, but you can see it on the original desktop.  Is this a bug?
[01:24] <berent> afief : yeah. Fortran not a bad choice
[01:25] <stefg> Jeruvy: this is a nown issue. try a different vncviewer /use vino als vnc-server
[01:25] <Jeruvy> stefg: I figured so, thanks.
[01:25] <afief> berent, cobol is also a choice
[01:26] <berent> well error starting synfigstudio :GThread-ERROR **: GThread system may only be initialized once.
[01:26] <berent> aborting...
[01:26] <berent> Aborted (core dumped)
[01:26] <Innomen> tom__: ok the drivers are in use but now i cant drag around windows, shrink them, alt tab, etc
[01:26] <afief> berent, this looks quite nice http://www.synfig.com//screenshots/screenshot.png
[01:26] <fortitUs> hey... can someone diagnose this?
[01:26] <fortitUs> caps lock blinking, whole system hangs, only way is hard reboot
[01:27] <Innomen> tom__:  and the irc windows covers everything so whatever you tell me to do i'll have to leave to do it.
[01:27] <afief> berent, weird, perhaps you should report a bug and/or try to compile the latest version yourself
[01:27] <fortitUs> my friend got it while running Wubi
[01:27] <stefg> fortitUs: blinking caps lock means: kernel is toast
[01:27] <tom__> Innomen: do this press 'ctrl-alt-backspace'
[01:27] <afief> berent, joining #synfig is also good:)
[01:27] <jonathan_> hi all
[01:27] <fortitUs> stefg: thanks
[01:27] <berent> afief : right
[01:28] <fortitUs> stefg: any known issues with Wubi that causes that?
[01:28] <Innomen> same deal
[01:28] <Innomen> i'm gunna default the themes and everything brb
[01:29] <stefg> fortitUs: i guess the kernel doesn't find it's root filesystem. you should rather free some partition on your disk and do a proper install. wubi is sort of crap
[01:29] <fortitUs> stefg: thanks again ^^
[01:29] <Pici> fortitUs: Wubi is a 3rd party unofficial install method.  If you are having trouble with the install process itself you probably will get better help on the wubi forums.
[01:29] <fortitUs> Pici: thanks
[01:31] <philip_> Hey people....can any one help with a few simple command line questions?
[01:32] <fortitUs> philip_: what command line?
[01:32] <fortitUs> unix: use man
[01:32] <stefg> philip_: try #bash
[01:32] <fortitUs> use man!
[01:32] <stefg> philip_: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[01:33] <philip_> It's not a specific command, I've trying the I/o thing...I I have a little understanding problem with it
[01:34] <Noemie> salut :)
[01:34] <jonathan_> hm...
[01:34] <IdleOne> !fr | Noemie Bonjour!
[01:34] <ubotu> Noemie Bonjour!: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:34] <philip_> for E.G....I have a file testing.txt that has a single line it /bin......why "ls < testing.txt" and "less testing.txt | ls" dosn't work?
[01:34] <jonathan_> how to login as a super user at my desktop?
[01:35] <jonathan_> using the sessions
[01:35] <jonathan_> anybody knows?
[01:35] <stefg> philip_: you're reading from that file, not writung to it. read the howto-section on i/o redirection
[01:35] <Innomen> Fixed, it was desktop effects, apprently not being compatable with these drivers :/ oh well no wiggly for me for now
[01:35] <lunz> afief thanks
[01:35] <jonathan_> !super user
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about super user - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <afief> lunz,  glad to hear that it worked for you:D
[01:36] <Pici> !sudo | jonathan_
[01:36] <ubotu> jonathan_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:36] <lunz> _Tomb Thanks too
[01:36] <philip_> I want to read from the file.....I want to do the command "ls /bin" only I want the "/bin" to come from the file...
[01:36] <Innomen> jonathan_:  why would you want to?
[01:36] <jonathan_> login as a root
[01:36] <jonathan_> to delete my packages folder
[01:36] <jonathan_> to delete some packages
[01:36] <jonathan_> there is some error in there with the compiz fusion, Innomen
[01:36] <lunz> afief:now i can mess with ubuntu again...:)
[01:37] <IdleOne> jonathan_: sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:37] <jonathan_> it can't
[01:37] <Pici> !root | jonathan_ please read this
[01:37] <ubotu> jonathan_ please read this: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:37] <afief> lunz, just try to memorize the comand I gave you:D can come in handy sometime
[01:37] <jonathan_> I try to using apt-get isntall -f
[01:37] <Innomen> cute
[01:37] <lunz> jonathan type sudo -s
[01:37] <jonathan_> and still can't
[01:37] <jonathan_> yes
[01:38] <jonathan_> it login as a root
[01:38] <jonathan_> but to delete the compiz packages?
[01:38] <lunz> afief:i already put the command in my IMPORTANT command list...
[01:38] <jonathan_> this packages seems to be error and I can't using any synaptic again
[01:38] <lunz> try add/remove program
[01:39] <afief> lunz, can I have a copy of your list?:D
[01:39] <lunz> afief:i think you are better than me lol
[01:39] <lunz> afief: i am just a newbie
[01:39] <jonathan_> anybody experienced with this things?
[01:39] <afief> lunz, hey I didn't know that usergoup thing either:D so let's compare notes
[01:40] <Innomen> hmmm, i cant set my screen res above 1024, despite just installing those ati drivers, perhaps i should have written down what blackkat told me
[01:40] <lunz> afief:ok..we could exchange messages or mail,mine is azlantodd@aol.com
[01:40] <Pici> jonathan_: `sudo -i` is the same thing as logging in as root.
[01:41] <jonathan_> sudo -s?
[01:41] <stefg> !fixres | Innomen
[01:41] <ubotu> Innomen: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:41] <Innomen> pici: i'd like to know how also, just out of curiosity.
[01:41] <Pici> jonathan_: Although I dont think you are going to find what you need to as root.
[01:41] <philip_> I'll explain my self.....I want to execute "ls /bin".....I written a text file (testing.txt) that contains the line "/bin". tried two version of the same command: "ls < testing.txt" "less testing.txt | ls" non worked, why?
[01:41] <lunz> jonathan...what is your problem actually..
[01:42] <Pici> jonathan_: What is the error you are getting? can you !pastebin it?
[01:42] <stefg> philip_: because you don't know hat you are doing, tat's why. read first, tehn ask again
[01:42] <lunz> might be somebody can help if i cant..lol
[01:42] <Pici> philip_: try ls $(cat testing.txt).
[01:42] <Innomen> stefg: "This Howto is intended for those who have problems with resolution or screen refresh rate (flickering), regardless of how they got to this situation." I do not have that issue.
[01:42] <Pici> philip_: er, without the . at the end.
[01:42] <Pici> Innomen: You said you had a problem with resolution.
[01:42] <Innomen> does it matter that my screen is not flickering?
[01:42] <lunz> jonathan try install automatix
[01:43] <Pici> !automatix | lunz jonathan_
[01:43] <ubotu> lunz jonathan_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:43] <stefg> Innomen: have you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:43] <jonathan_> nope
[01:43] <Pici> lunz: Please don't suggest that here.
[01:43] <Innomen> not a problem, just that the option to go higher isnt there when it shoud be, does that still count?
[01:43] <Innomen> stefg: no but i will right now
[01:43] <jonathan_> the synaptic only said... there is 2 packages broken.. try to repair it
[01:43] <lunz> ok
[01:43] <philip_> thanx
[01:44] <lunz> ok so dont use it..
[01:45] <philip_> Where can I find a good guide on the command line?
[01:45] <doktoreas> in wich order scripts in cron.daily are executed?
[01:45] <lunz> phillip:http://linuxcommand.org
[01:45] <philip_> thanx
[01:46] <romaxmaniax> Hi all
[01:46] <lunz> no problemo
[01:46] <Pici> !cli > philip_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[01:46] <romaxmaniax> I've got a problem with 7.04 and decnet, can somebody out here help me ?
[01:47] <Pici> philip_: Also http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ if you are going to be doing bash programming.
[01:47] <lunz> philip:register your nick and pm me..
[01:47] <lunz> Pici:thanks
[01:47] <Woifi1988> anybody who can help me with postfix?
[01:48] <philip_> heh....how do I register my nick?
[01:48] <Pici> !register | philip_
[01:48] <ubotu> philip_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:49] <Woifi1988> i have to do a pop before smtp
[01:49] <Woifi1988> and i cant write a script
[01:49] <lunz> philip : Type: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[01:49] <Innomen> stefg: well that was nightmareish I hope i passed, when do i get my score?
[01:49] <Pici> Woifi1988: Its a bit quiet in here this morning, you might want to ask in #postfix as well.
[01:50] <romaxmaniax> no decnet gurus here ?
[01:50] <stefg> Innomen: after you learned, that reading howtos is important :-)
[01:51] <Innomen> stefg: what do i do now? i still dont have anything above 1024, despite selecting them during the test
[01:51] <niina> Have any1 read the book "Beginning Python" ?
[01:51] <Innomen> should i reboot?
[01:51] <niina> is it any good?
[01:51] <stefg> !ati
[01:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:51] <Pici> niina: I'd ask in #python :)
[01:51] <lunz> stefg:try envy
[01:52] <stefg> !envy
[01:52] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[01:52] <tom__> niina: the o'reilly book
[01:52] <Pici> lunz: please read what ubotu said.
[01:52] <lunz> hmm..not recommended
[01:53] <lunz> but workd fine for me
[01:53] <stefg> Innomen: you probably did not enter the right credentials when reconfiguring xorg. The display specs are important, too.
[01:53] <niina> I tried to connect to #python but it said "you need to be identified to join that channel" How do i become identified
[01:53] <Innomen> lunz: the spirit of tinkering is a big part of the linux community but ubuntu aims to cure the old joke "Unix: so many standards to choose from." and its also aimed at the windows crowd that kinda likt to operate like the borg.
[01:53] <Pici> !wfm | lunz :)
[01:53] <WolfHeart> hi lads
[01:53] <jonathan_>   already try that, Pici
[01:54] <lunz> what is wfm?
[01:54] <ArmedKing> Innomen: Nice one dude haha
[01:54] <Pici> !wfm
[01:54] <ubotu> lunz :): Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[01:54] <niina> how do i scroll up the window in Irssi
[01:54] <Pici> niina: page up
[01:54] <Innomen> stefg: thanks for warning me. How would i default whatever file that little test was editing?
[01:54] <_Johny> Has anyone of you ever installed "psiphon" on Ubuntu?
[01:54] <cherva> i'm installing xubuntu from alternate cd, but when it try to install grub there is an error saing "Executingg 'grub-install (hd0)' failed This is a fatal error how do I fix that ?
[01:54] <lunz> ubuto:the i suggest you suggest the best option..
[01:54] <stefg> Innomen: there's a backup of the old file in /etc/X11
[01:55] <niina> Pici: thanks :)
[01:55] <Innomen> ArmedKing: thank you :)
[01:55] <Innomen> stefg: how about you show me what i need to paste in a terminal to restore said file please :)
[01:55] <niina> Pici: If I wanna join a channel but still stay in here "#ubuntu" how do i do that in Irssi
[01:56] <lunz> niina:what is irssi?
[01:56] <tom__> niina: if you do say /join #ubuntu-es
[01:56] <tom__> niina: then to get back to ubuntu type 'esc-2'
[01:56] <stefg> Innomen: i don't get you completly. Why would you want to restore a nonworking conf?
[01:56] <tom__> niina: to get back to ubuntu-es type 'esc-3'
[01:57] <Pici> lunz: Its a command line irc client.
[01:57] <lunz> ahh ic..
[01:57] <Pici> niina: or alt-3
[01:57] <asc> I'm trying to enable internet connection sharing with firestarter, but it doesn't seem to be working; computers on the network can ping the gateway, but not access the internet. Anybody give me a hint?
[01:57] <niina>  lunz Irssi is a IRC client
[01:57] <Innomen> stefg: because the new one isnt working either, unless i'm supposed to reboot, and no one told me
[01:57] <lunz> why dont just use konversation
[01:57] <niina> Pici: thanks
[01:57] <tom__> lunz: why don't you just use irssi
[01:57] <asc> (enabled internet connection sharing, restarted networking, restarted firewall, all successful)
[01:57] <Pici> tom__: hehe :)
[01:57] <Innomen> and if i'm going to persue diffrent solutions, i'd rather be building on the standard, not something i changed
[01:58] <tom__> Pici: :)
[01:58] <yaser> how do i do, to order samba to reload the options i recently changed?
[01:58] <niina> Pici: one more Q I tried to connect to #python but it said "you need to be identified to join this channel" How do I become identified?
[01:58] <bottiger> 1) because you don't use KDE? 2) Because you want to be online 24/7 and run from a remote server
[01:58] <Pici> !register | niina follow these directions
[01:58] <ubotu> niina follow these directions: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:58] <lunz> must be not easy...
[01:58] <tom__> lunz: it's not as easy to learn, but it is very nice once you know how
[01:59] <tom__> lunz: it's usable
[01:59] <stefg> Innomen: you need to restart the X-server before a new xorg.conf is put into effect. ctrl-alt-backspace (or more civilized: change to terminal by ctrl-alt-f1 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart)
[01:59] <lunz> tom_:i think i just try it
[01:59] <Pici> asc: Make sure that the default gateways are set to the gateway you are using, check the 'route' command.
[01:59] <tom__> lunz: :)
[01:59] <lunz> tom_:how to get it?
[01:59] <yaser> how do i do, to order samba to reload the options i recently changed?
[01:59] <Woifi1988> Can someone please help me with a problem?! I have to do a pop before smtp, so i configured fetchmail und wrote mail_command=fetchmail in the main.cf But this doesn't have any effect. Can someone tell me why?
[02:00] <_Johny>  Has anyone of you ever installed "psiphon" on Ubuntu?
[02:00] <lunz> hmm..let me googling
[02:00] <asc> hey, Pici
[02:00] <asc> I love you
[02:00] <Pici> asc: Worked?
[02:00] <asc> like magics
[02:00] <niina> !register
[02:00] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:00] <asc> gateway was set to 10.255.150.0
[02:02] <yaser> how do i do, to order samba to reload the options i recently changed?
[02:02] <stefg> yaser: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[02:04] <dang`r`us> hello.
[02:04] <yaser> stefg, thks
[02:04] <dang`r`us> Quick question: will 7.10 come with xen 3.1?
[02:04] <Innomen> stefg: that worked, thanx, suggestions though, 1, warn people about that test before you toss them into it, and 2, warn people that crntl alt backspace might just shut everything off :P I assume that if i had botched that test, that this config would be fouled and alt backspace would ahve left me without video :P
[02:04] <Innomen> in anycae, its working
[02:06] <Innomen> !endtask
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about endtask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <Innomen> is there anything liek end task in ubuntu?
[02:06] <stefg> Innomen: hmmm.... that is considered common sense, somewhat. and hosing the xserver isn't something to panic about, if you know that a.) you have a backup xorg.conf. b.) you simply run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again (and this tme care about your settings) ;.)
[02:07] <Innomen> setfg: thats so insulting i'm actually angry at you now
[02:07] <dang`r`us> ah, found the answer (it's yes)
[02:07] <Innomen> 1. i was not born knowing linux
[02:07] <lunz> tom_:already downloaded irssi,how to install it?
[02:07] <vlt> Hello. What does "kernel: [22121122.552000]  APIC error on CPU1: 00(40)" in syslog mean? I got this for the second time now (first in August). I can't reach the machine via network anymore after this happens. A clean reboot using ctrl+alt+del is still possible. Any idea?
[02:07] <tom__> lunz: you should install it with apt or synaptic
[02:07] <tom__> lunz: from the command line type
[02:07] <lunz> how?
[02:07] <Pici> lunz: irssi is in the ubuntu repos, you shouldnt have to download the source.
[02:07] <Innomen> 2. there are WAY more of me than there are of you, so i "should" know exactly none of that
[02:07] <tom__> lunz: 'sudo apt-get install irssi'
[02:07] <lunz> ok
[02:08] <Innomen> stefg: you must be useing some alien version of the word "common" that does not imply a majority
[02:09] <niina> whats the hotkey in Mplayer for previous track
[02:09] <jrib> niina: <
[02:09] <lunz> tom_:already installed,how to run it?
[02:10] <niina> jrib: thanks
[02:10] <lunz> tom_:done
[02:11] <Innomen> When a process hangs, there is no way to force it to close in ubuntu. true or false :P
[02:11] <Raph> hi, i got a quad q6600 this morning, is someone can tel me what ubuntu cd to download, 64 or 32 ?
[02:11] <BobHassan> innomen -> terminal-> ps -A | grep processname
[02:11] <warriorforgod> I am using lm-sensors with conky.  When I try to start conky I get the error pasted at http://rafb.net/p/AbzNIy32.html  How can I point this to 9191-0290/temp3_input instead of 0-0050/temp3_input?
[02:12] <danix> anybody knows how to edit pages on apache,i have all the programs required,but when i put IP only appears a menu apache
[02:12] <BobHassan> innomen-> then kill the process with kill.... man kill for more information
[02:12] <Innomen> BobHassan: thank you, is there a more user friendly version of that? just curious, like say a control key when the process is highlighted, just in case i cant alt tab out to a terminal? (for future reffrence)
[02:13] <`Matir> Innomen, press Alt-F2, type "xkill", then click on the process.
[02:14] <Innomen> `Matir: thank you!
[02:14] <Jeruvy> Innomen: keep in mind ALT+ a number will give you a shell, up to 6, ALT+7 takes you back to X.
[02:14] <Innomen> Jeruvy: ahhh, very cool, thank you also :)
[02:16] <TaQ> Hi there, can I safely remove mono from Ubuntu latest versions? Or is it tied to ubuntu-desktop?
[02:16] <Innomen> Can i put xkill itself on a key? again just in case the terminal window is invisable? in win98 i usta lock it up all the time and the process would not alt tab but i knew i could hit ctrl-alt-del <tab> <tab> <spacebar> and thatever process i was looking at regardless of what i could see would be endtasked if possible, i'm looking to set up something like this in ubuntu becaus ei'm sure i'm gunna mess up A LOT
[02:17] <anto> Can somone help me i got a problem when trying to start a game
[02:17] <fevel> hey guys, anyone have issues with gkrellm?? here, it keeps disappearing if I have a program over it for a while
[02:17] <`Matir> TaQ -- I don't have mono installed with no noticeable side effects.
[02:17] <anto> error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:17] <TaQ> Thanks `Matir! I'll try to remove it today.
[02:17] <`Matir> Innomen, apps lock up fairly rarely
[02:17] <jrib> Innomen: you can.  You can also add the "force quit" applet to your panel
[02:18] <`Matir> TaQ, and either synaptic or apt will warn if it tries to remove ubuntu-desktop.
[02:18] <Innomen> jrib: can you tell me how to do both? `Matir: i've noticed, but still just in case, you know? like a gun, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it :) *shrugs*
[02:19] <Innomen> `Matir: I'll be useing wine a lot
[02:19] <walrus_RUS> anto:  I think your game requires opengl support
[02:19] <Innomen> my project for today is getting sacred to run properly
[02:20] <jrib> Innomen: right click -> add to panel.  To add a keybinding in metacity, you would go to /apps/metacity it 'gconf-editor' and setup the command and then a key for the command
[02:20] <AppleMacGenius> brb
[02:21] <Midgewa> how do u recieve photos using XCHAT
[02:22] <Innomen> jrib: first part done, thank you, moving to second...
[02:22] <Innomen> !metacity
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metacity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <Innomen> jrib: what is metacity?
[02:22] <advancedonsite> ive recently installed updates into my T61 ibm laptop for gutsy and now no sound is working but i do hear sound when i login just no music allowed
[02:22] <walrus_RUS> Innomen: metacity - gnome window manager
[02:23] <walrus_RUS> Midgewa: are you behind firewall?
[02:23] <Midgewa> not that i know of
[02:23] <Midgewa> im used to mirc on windows
[02:23] <fevel> how do I switch back to gdm??
[02:23] <Innomen> walrus: alright, i'll try not to give you the 3 year old approach "whats that" x10 :)
[02:23] <Midgewa> and it comes up with a dialogue box for accept
[02:23] <fevel> ive installed kubuntu and now it uses kdm
[02:23] <Midgewa> this it just says that they are trying
[02:24] <neo_> alguem pode me ajudar a colocar 2 ips no meu linux
[02:24] <jrib> !br | neo_
[02:24] <ubotu> neo_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:24] <advancedonsite> ive recently installed updates into my T61 ibm laptop for gutsy and now no sound is working but i do hear sound when i login just no music allowed
[02:25] <jrib> fevel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:25] <Innomen> i canot find metacity, in truth i dont know exactly what i'm looking for
[02:25] <jrib> Innomen: open 'gconf-editor' in a terminal
[02:25] <TaQ> `Matir: Thanks! I don't want that stuff around there. Will remove tonight. :-)
[02:26] <walrus_RUS> Innomen:  it's program that draw frames around window, buttons on the title etc etc
[02:26] <theDtTvB2> Hello, how do I change the keyboard repeat rate in console?
[02:26] <Innomen> open (i used my new alt f2 skill) lol
[02:26] <Innomen> walrus: in short tha thing i broke installing video drives and trying to run desktop effects at the same time heeh
[02:27] <Innomen> jrib: i'm sorry, its open, i thought i said that already
[02:27] <advancedonsite> WHAT IS THE GUTSY IRC CHANNEL
[02:27] <jrib> Innomen: then go to /apps/metacity
[02:27] <jrib> advancedonsite: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[02:27] <walrus_RUS> advancedonsite: look to topic
[02:27] <kidbuntu> someone help please. i choosed compiz for my desktop. i cant move the windows even if i'm checking the checkbox for move window.
[02:28] <Innomen> oh oh
[02:28] <AlexC_> Hey,
[02:28] <John117> I need some ongoing technical support.  Is anyone available to help?\
[02:28] <jrib> John117: best to just ask the channel your next question and see if anyone knows the answer
[02:28] <AlexC_> I'm having trouble mounting a partition so that my user can write to it, (root can). This is my line in fstab: /dev/sdb1       /media/storage2         ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro      0       1  and once I do a sudo mount -a I can not write to it =\ How can I solve this?
[02:29] <MikeDX> add .rw after defaults
[02:29] <fevel> thank you jrib
[02:29] <jrib> kidbuntu: #ubuntu-effects for help with compiz
[02:29] <jrib> !permissions > AlexC_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:29] <AlexC_> MikeDX: defaults.rw,errors=remount.ro ?
[02:29] <lunz> tom_:kinda hard...:)
[02:30] <FlyingPoop> !compiz
[02:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:30] <xcst> ri there guys, need help with mplayer
[02:30] <AlexC_> jrib: aye, I understand permissions - though I've never had to change them before when mounting a partition so I can write to it,
[02:30] <MikeDX> AlexC_: try defaults,rw,errors... etc
[02:30] <xcst> when i try to view fullscreen in mplayer, it wont work
[02:30] <jrib> AlexC_: you change permissions after you mount
[02:31] <MikeDX> also make sure /media/storage2 has correct permissions before you mount
[02:31] <pavs> uptime
[02:31] <jrib> !doesn't work | xcst
[02:31] <ubotu> xcst: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:31] <Innomen> jrib: which one under metacity should i be in?
[02:31] <MikeDX> and then you can look in /media/storage (as root if necessary) to see who owns what, and do a chmod -R if necessary in that dir as root
[02:31] <fevel> gkrellm dissapears, but I can see the process with ps aux. Has anyone had this issue?
[02:31] <jrib> Innomen: list the ones you see
[02:31] <John117> Installing Ubuntu 7.04 Alternate i386 on a Toshiba Satellite 1.4ghz Celeron M.  Fails at "Selecting Software to Install"  Before with version 6 it was hanging at 72% during the graphic instal.
[02:32] <xcst> !doesn't work mplayer fullscreen
[02:32] <AlexC_> MikeDX: jrib I've done a sudo chown -R alex:alex /media/storage2  and a sudo chmod -R 0644 /media/storage2   - neither allow me to write to it
[02:32] <jrib> xcst: what exactly happens when you go fullscreen?
[02:32] <fevel> John117,  Do you think it could be an issue with your harddrive?
[02:32] <Innomen> general, global keybindings (my favorite heheh), keybinding commands, window keybindings, and workspace names
[02:32] <WaltzingAlong> which filesystem is /media/storage2
[02:32] <fevel> John117,  Is it new?
[02:32] <AlexC_> WaltzingAlong: etx3,
[02:32] <AlexC_> ext3 even
[02:32] <MikeDX> AlexC_, what does mount -l list /media/storage as?
[02:33] <xcst> jrib, it just stays the same size
[02:33] <MikeDX> should be (rw)
[02:33] <AlexC_> MikeDX: /dev/sdb1 on /media/storage2 type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) [] 
[02:33] <jrib> AlexC_: you want execute permissions on directories
[02:33] <AlexC_> woops ....
[02:33] <AlexC_> suppose to be 755,
[02:34] <MikeDX> you really want at *least* 755
[02:34] <AlexC_> yep, works now =)
[02:34] <AlexC_> thanks both,
[02:34] <Innomen> jrib: general, global keybindings (my favorite heheh), keybinding commands, window keybindings, and workspace names (sorry left yur name off the front last time)
[02:34] <jrib> xcst: use "xv" as your vider output
[02:35] <John117> I have considered that.  I ran the Toshiba restore CD without problems.  I'll look for a hard drive diagnostic tool to run.
[02:35] <xcst> jrib hmm im kinda new to linux, what do you mean by that
[02:35] <MikeDX> is anybody here familiar with how laptops  refresh rate works? I set horizsync=15khz in corg.conf but the laptop screen didnt seem to care. I want the output (external vga) to be 15khz
[02:35] <jrib> Innomen: so first set up the "xkill" command in "keybinding commands" first
[02:35] <kst> I'm trying to run compiz with my ati radeon mobility x700 but i get the following errors: kst@kst-laptop:~$ compiz
[02:35] <kst> /usr/bin/compiz.real: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[02:35] <kst> /usr/bin/compiz.real: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
[02:35] <kitche> xcst: what happens when you go full screen exactly like he said like does it crash or something else?
[02:36] <kitche> !pastebin | kst
[02:36] <ubotu> kst: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:36] <jrib> kst: #ubuntu-effects for compiz help
[02:36] <kitche> kst: use compiz --replace
[02:36] <dspstv> what replaces inittab in edgy,
[02:36] <dspstv> where can i add a service
[02:36] <Innomen> jrib: done (i think)
[02:36] <xcst> kitche no, the size stays the same, its not getting bigger
[02:36] <jrib> !upstart > dspstv (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:36] <kitche> xcst: the video is probably formatted for that size :)
[02:37] <jrib> xcst: go to mplayer prefs
[02:37] <dspstv> jrib, i've read on upstart but is to complex for me
[02:37] <jrib> Innomen: now go to global keybindings and set it up
[02:37] <dspstv> i just need to add one line
[02:37] <jrib> dspstv: what line
[02:37] <dspstv> to whatever works like inittab in ubuntu
[02:38] <xcst> wheres mplayer prefs? sori
[02:38] <dixon> Does anybody know where can I download gutsy release candidate?
[02:38] <dspstv> jrib, a line for a program i need to respawn if it crashes
[02:38] <kitche> dixon: download.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <xcst> there
[02:38] <xcst> jrib,  im at prefs
[02:38] <Innomen> ha!
[02:38] <Innomen> jrib: thank you
[02:38] <jrib> xcst: use "xv" as your video output
[02:38] <dixon> kitche: download.ubuntu.com is down :\
[02:38] <jo1> whenever i leave my pc alone for a while or manually 'suspend' the session, when i try to log back in i get a yellow msg at the top "   Linu" and cannot get back in without a hard reboot - any help?
[02:39] <MikeDX> its not down its just hammered
[02:39] <MikeDX> j01 do any of the ctrl+alt+F1-7 combos work?
[02:39] <xcst> oh there it is
[02:39] <xcst> thanks
[02:39] <xcst> jrib, thanks
[02:39] <jrib> dspstv: don't know that then, try #upstart
[02:39] <jrib> Innomen, xcst: no problem
[02:40] <jo1> MikeDX: erm yes they appear to but i dont know how to use any of them?
[02:40] <kst> ok, another try :P my compiz won't work, see bash/xorg.conf here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40249/
[02:40] <jrib> kst: #ubuntu-effects for compiz help
[02:40] <MikeDX> jo1: if you can get to ctrl+alt+f1 for instance, you can login (as yourself) then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart if your desktop has crashed
[02:41] <kst> :P thanks jrib
[02:41] <aguitel> how open and write in pdf file?
[02:41] <IdleOne> !odf | aguitel
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about odf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <IdleOne> !pdf | aguitel
[02:41] <ubotu> aguitel: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[02:42] <brownie17> i got G-lined from a different IRC server through a misunderstanding and i'm trying to find a proxy that won't be stopped by their DNS ban list check
[02:42] <jo1> MikeDX: oh no sorry i thought you meant in general, ive not tried any of the shortcuts DURING the crash. anyhow i can hard reset anyway i would like to prevent it if possible
[02:42] <kitche> !offtopic | brownie17
[02:42] <ubotu> brownie17: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:43] <marko> HI, I have a XMMS player and I would like to install a xmms crossfader ''plugin'' but I dont know how..!!!!so I need a little help.....if it is possible....thx
[02:43] <IdleOne> brownie17: this is the wrong place to ask for help to ban evade
[02:43] <RasqualTwilight> hello, why are there multiple versions of libc6, and why can't they live side by side?
[02:43] <kst> is there a hardware support channel? i want to ask stuff about usbhid and mousepolling rate but no one in here ever replied ;-)
[02:43] <maxiounet> join #ubuntufr
[02:43] <brownie17> IdleOne, was just whinging not asking for help.
[02:43] <jrib> !support > kst (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:43] <kst> thx
[02:43] <kitche> RasqualTwilight: well they can but all the programs depend on glibc to work
[02:44] <maxiounet> commen on fai pr allez sur le chay ubuntu francai svp
[02:44] <jrib> kst: probably better asked on a mailing list or forum
[02:44] <crolle17> how to print a page with open select-box?
[02:44] <IdleOne> maxiounet: tape /join #ubuntu-fr
[02:44] <crolle17> into memory
[02:44] <maxiounet> ok ;)
[02:44] <kst> are these mailing lists useful? i've never been on one, not sure how they work jrib :)
[02:44] <kst> you just sign up and then you get all the emails ppl write?
[02:45] <jrib> kst: yep
[02:45] <RasqualTwilight> kitche: but why does the package manager insist that I downgrade libc6 to install some progs in synaptics?
[02:45] <crolle17> i have a  webpage, which i want to print into memory, but with opened select-box.
[02:45] <kitche> RasqualTwilight: no clue conflict in your sources.lst?
[02:45] <crolle17> alt+print or print doesn't work.
[02:46] <RasqualTwilight> kitche, actually I installed libc6 from a .deb to make another program work
[02:46] <jrib> RasqualTwilight: you have a broken system then
[02:46] <kitche> RasqualTwilight: well that's probably why you most likely messed your whole system up
[02:46] <RasqualTwilight> well, yeah, I can downgrade safely I think
[02:46] <RasqualTwilight> it's just annoying that it doesn't "just work"
[02:47] <jrib> RasqualTwilight: why did you need the libc deb
[02:47] <RasqualTwilight> I think a 3rd party app needs 2.6.1-5, ubuntu has 2.5-0ubuntu14
[02:47] <jrib> RasqualTwilight: what app?
[02:47] <Cryx> anyone know where is the file that contains all the "links" like when i write to shell "lol" it does some action
[02:48] <RasqualTwilight> jrib: aqualung
[02:48] <RasqualTwilight> http://aqualung.sourceforge.net/
[02:48] <kitche> RasqualTwilight: it does just work but all the programs depends on glibc if you upgrade your glibc without recompiling all the programs almost nothing works unless of course it installs to a different path
[02:48] <jo1> whenever i leave my pc alone for a while or manually 'suspend' the session, when i try to log back in i get a yellow msg at the top "   Linu" and cannot get back in without a hard reboot - any help?
[02:49] <tom__> jo1: it's a problem with acpi
[02:49] <tom__> jo1: or apm
[02:49] <gcc_> hi, i have troubles with clone my ubuntu to other computer
[02:50] <jrib> RasqualTwilight: it's packaged in gutsy, if you can wait a week for release
[02:50] <jewbilee> I have 2 internal harddrives on my computer that I cannot figure out how to get into on ubuntu through command line (ie: i dont know the pathname to them).  How do I figure out their path name.  I need to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst on them but they arent showing in ubuntu
[02:51] <kitche> jewbilee: you sure they are not showing up in ubuntu? /dev/sdX is them most likely
[02:51] <jewbilee> where X is the number correct?
[02:51] <jewbilee> they arent showing under computer so i dont know how to access them
[02:51] <kitche> jewbilee: no X is the device like a b c
[02:52] <jewbilee> alright
[02:52] <jdownie> jewbilee: or you can have a look at the output from dmesg to see what HDDs the kernel is registering
[02:52] <jewbilee> can you tell me the command to list HDD and partitions?
[02:52] <tom__> jewbilee: or they could be /dev/hdX
[02:52] <praecox> hey guys
[02:52] <tom__> jewbilee: df -h
[02:52] <praecox> I experienced kinda odd problem on my Ubuntu recently
[02:52] <tom__> what was it
[02:52] <genii> jewbilee: sudo fdisk -l
[02:52] <RasqualTwilight> kitche: basically, it means that if I want to tread away from the synaptics "path", I will encounter such problems?
[02:52] <praecox> some keys are blocking on my keyboard
[02:53] <praecox> I mean sometimes when I press some keys
[02:53] <tom__> praecox: are you sure your keyboard isn't just stuffed
[02:53] <kitche> RasqualTwilight: well with core programs you will
[02:53] <jdownie> jewbilee: are they ide drives or scsi/sata?
[02:53] <praecox> on of them, mostly last one, keeps writing same letter
[02:53] <regebro> I have a weird problem with my laptop and it's external monitor. The entire picture will "vibrate" from side to side.
[02:53] <praecox> tom__, yes, I checked with three different keyboards.
[02:53] <praecox> tom__, it looks like software problem.
[02:53] <tom__> praecox: that sure is weird
[02:53] <IdleOne> praecox: sounds like a dirtu keyboard to me
[02:53] <regebro> I've seen some more people asking, but no answers, and I need this to work in c:a 2 hrs... :-/
[02:54] <RasqualTwilight> kitche: the other solution, except upgrading to gg, would be compiling from the sources?
[02:54] <regebro> It's an i915 chip,
[02:54] <praecox> IdleOne, I know, but as I said - I checked three other keyboards, all have the same symptoms.
[02:54] <praecox> IdleOne, and it doesn't happen on other workstations.
[02:55] <kitche> regebro: that's not a problem really just means your refresh rate is wrong
[02:55] <praecox> IdleOne, tom__, do you have *any* idea what can this be? except dirty keyboard?
[02:55] <IdleOne> praecox: none sorry
[02:56] <jewbilee> jdownie: They are SATA drivers in a RAID configuration
[02:56] <regebro> kitche: Well, I'm not excluding any solutions. Could you tell me what refresh rate I should have?
[02:56] <tom__> praecox: umm something crazy wrong with possibly
[02:56] <jewbilee> the problem is everytime i reboot I get an gurb error 21
[02:56] <jewbilee> and I cant choose vista or ubuntu
[02:56] <tvisto> Hi all
[02:56] <Downix> evening
[02:56] <regebro> kitche: I've never seen anything like this before, and different refresh rates or dfferent monitors does not seem to make a difference.
[02:56] <LDS_Trooper> morning
[02:56] <tom__> hey
[02:56] <Downix> I forgot to check if there's a SPARC32 version of Ubuntu
[02:56] <tvisto> We've just installed Ubuntu at work at all PC's wow! so great
[02:56] <tom__> tvisto: congrats
[02:57] <LDS_Trooper> tvisto, excellent!
[02:57] <LDS_Trooper> 7 more days to the new release
[02:57] <kitche> regebro: figure out the refresh rate that looks good on your eyes is just a tiny vibrate or a big vibrate and do other people notice it besides you?
[02:57] <LDS_Trooper> brb
[02:57] <tvisto> But I wanted to ask : anyone knows a good enterprise resource planning solution for small companies?
[02:57] <tom__> tvisto: i'm not sure what that is :)
[02:57] <regebro> kitche: OK, thanks for the answer. It's not a refresh rate problem.
[02:57] <RasqualTwilight> jewbilee: is it a CRT or LCD monior?
[02:58] <tvisto> ah well somehting to keep track of documents, orders, and so on (basically try manage all in one program)
[02:58] <kitche> regebro: ok if it's not then that's what most of the anwsers you will get most likely even if you do a search
[02:58] <WaltzingAlong> how do i set the default xsession for new users (with ubuntu then install kubuntu-desktop, it gets set to kde, how to i pick gnome again as the default?)
[02:58] <osfameron> tvisto: dunno if GnuCash will do some/any of that... I think people tend to use SAGE don't they for certain sizes of small business at least
[02:59] <regebro> kitche: I know. But it's not a refresh rate flicker. The image really vibrates left-right.
[02:59] <WaltzingAlong> tvisto: gnucash has support for customers, vendors, and the like
[02:59] <IdleOne> regebro: could it be a faulty monitor perhaps? have you tried with a different one
[02:59] <jewbilee> Rasqual: its an LCD
[03:00] <jewbilee> why does that matter...
[03:00] <tvisto> well guys its not for customers
[03:00] <tvisto> just for us ourselves
[03:00] <tom__> tvisto: so it keeps track of lots of inhouse data for you
[03:00] <jrib> WaltzingAlong: sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[03:00] <tomassino> need help.....
[03:01] <tvisto> yes exactly: and also helps us process things like: ordering (for manufacturing)
[03:01] <Downix> dangit, SPARC64 only
[03:01] <tomassino> how do i edit xorg.conf
[03:01] <Downix> those of us with 32-bit get no love 8(  8)
[03:01] <tom__> tvisto: im not really sure but i can have a look
[03:01] <tvisto> no no its cool
[03:01] <LDS_Trooper> tvisto, this may not be what you are looking for, but would something like this help    http://live.gnome.org/Planner
[03:01] <whiskeytango> SATA and ATA use different connections to connect to motherboard, right?
[03:01] <tvisto> i will have a look myself: i really neede just answer if anyone actually used anything liek this
[03:01] <kitche> whiskeytango: yes
[03:02] <RasqualTwilight> jewbilee: does it also happen at other screen resolutions?
[03:02] <jewbilee> Can someone tell me how to access the /boot/grub/menu.lst file on a different harddrive
[03:02] <jewbilee> Rasqual... its a boot issue with grub, not video
[03:02] <walrus_RUS> whiskeytango: certainly
[03:02] <Pici> tomassino: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:02] <tom__> tvisto: i found this about erp software on linux
[03:02] <whiskeytango> Man, I just spent an hour driving to a friends house to get this damned ATA HDD and i got back and discovered that the HDD i have in there already is SATA :(
[03:02] <Downix> whiskeytango, ATA is an interconnect protocol that can occur over several different connections.  SATA is one, IDE is another.
[03:03] <tom__> tvisto: http://linux.about.com/b/a/129056.htm
[03:03] <whiskeytango> One uses a little connector and the other uses a big connector :D
[03:03] <jewbilee> How do I access a file stored on another harddrive?
[03:03] <MikeDX> IDE = PATA
[03:03] <kitche> Downix: IDE doesn't exist anymore well it does but it's known as PATA :)
[03:03] <tom__> tvisto: http://www-304.ibm.com/jct09002c/gsdod/scsolutiondetails.do?solutionId=26533&lc=en&usrcode=pub
[03:03] <tvisto> THAbks all for help I'llcheck it: unfortunaly have to run :(
[03:03] <Downix> MikeDX, IDE != PATA, but you can use IDE drives on a PATA system
[03:04] <assasukasse> hi all
[03:04] <tom__> tvisto: np i just google linux "resource planning"
[03:04] <assasukasse> when will openoffice 2.3 be available for ubuntu?
[03:04] <kitche> Downix: PATA does = IDE look it up
[03:04] <Downix> kitche, They work differently protocol-wise.  I just got done designing an ATA controller, main that was a pain
[03:04] <whiskeytango> Regardless, there are no conversion adapters or anything like that, correct?  So i will need to adapt my IDE/PATA/POS for use with a USB port, correct?
[03:04] <Downix> whiskeytango, they make adaptors from PATA to SATA, USB, Firewire, even SCSI
[03:04] <whiskeytango> Hmm..
[03:04] <jewbilee> Anyone, someone, this is an emergency, how do I access a file stored on another harddrive if it wont show up in the visual windows
[03:05] <regebro> sorry of somebody said anything, network problem (I moved rooms)
[03:05] <whiskeytango> Thank you.
[03:05] <MikeDX> Many synonyms and near-synonyms for ATA exist, including abbreviations such as IDE and ATAPI.
[03:05] <kitche> jewbilee: cd /media/<mountpoint>/<path>/to/file/
[03:05] <tomassino> Pici: so typed the command and i get a blank screen with some stuff on the bottom....(get hep, exit...and so on)
[03:05] <regebro> Anyway, I don't think my problem is a generic problem, but a specific problem, probably with the 915 chipset.
[03:06] <tomassino> Pici: what now????
[03:06] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee:  did you mount another harddisk ?
[03:06] <jewbilee> i dont know
[03:06] <Pici> tomassino: Are you sure you typed the location of the file correctly? Its case sensitive.
[03:06] <MikeDX> With the introduction of Serial ATA around 2003, conventional ATA was retroactively renamed to Parallel ATA (P-ATA), referring to the method in which data travels over wires in this interface.
[03:06] <jewbilee> I dont know its mountpoint
[03:06] <Downix> MikeDX, Too true, but they don't all work the same.  I have a basic IDE controller and an ATA controller, for two different jobs.  The irony for me is that the IDE wound up able to emulate ATA through software.
[03:06] <MikeDX> so yes, PATE DOES = IDE
[03:06] <kitche> !offtopic | MikeDX Downix
[03:06] <ubotu> MikeDX Downix: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:06] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee:  just type mount and it show you all mounted devices
[03:07] <MikeDX> kitche, with the greatest of respect, shut up
[03:07] <kitche> !coc | MikeDX
[03:07] <ubotu> MikeDX: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:07] <Downix> kitche, quite true.
[03:07] <tomassino> Pici: thanks.....works
[03:07] <jewbilee> mount worked but didnt show me anything about the HDD i need to access
[03:08] <atlfalcons866> how can i use dolphin as a file manager
[03:08] <kitche> atlfalcons866: install kde4
[03:08] <atlfalcons866> in gnome
[03:08] <atlfalcons866> instead of Nautilus
[03:08] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: do you know what device  name? /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb etc etc?
[03:09] <kitche> atlfalcons866: like I said install kde4 it depends on kde4 libs and such
[03:09] <Downix> I still need to get this SPARC up and in decent order
[03:09] <jewbilee> I can find out
[03:09] <jewbilee> hold on
[03:09] <Downix> Debian Sarge is a bit old
[03:09] <jewbilee> Its /dev/sda
[03:09] <atlfalcons866> kitche: isnt kde4 unstable
[03:09] <kitche> atlfalcons866: pretty much yes
[03:09] <Pici> atlfalcons866: Yes, and Dolphin is in KDE4.
[03:10] <wilson> i prefer konq to dolphin
[03:10] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: your another harddisk (that you need toaccess) is /dev/sda ?
[03:10] <atlfalcons866> I never had luck with kde
[03:10] <jewbilee> yes
[03:10] <atlfalcons866> its too much like windows
[03:10] <kitche> wilson: kinda funny since konq is not the same konq really in kde4 :)
[03:10] <Pici> atlfalcons866: Then why are you asking to use Dolphin?
[03:10] <atlfalcons866> Pici: because i dont like nautilus
[03:10] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee:  ok. make dir for mount point. Say, /mnt/anotherhard
[03:11] <jewbilee> ok
[03:11] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: mkdir /mnt/anotherhard
[03:11] <jewbilee> yea
[03:11] <jewbilee> then what
[03:11] <walrus_RUS> mount it.
[03:11] <Innomen> will true crypt be in the packages for the next version of ubuntu?
[03:11] <jewbilee> how
[03:11] <jewbilee> i dont know these commands that well
[03:11] <walrus_RUS> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/anotherhard
[03:11] <atlfalcons866> will my computer be faster with xfce?
[03:12] <atlfalcons866> #xubuntu
[03:12] <tom__> atlfalcons866: yeah xfce is really snappy
[03:13] <tom__> atlfalcons866: especially if you don't have much ram
[03:13] <atlfalcons866> tom_ what not much ram these days?
[03:13] <WaltzingAlong> 2GB
[03:14] <WaltzingAlong> hahah j/j
[03:14] <atlfalcons866> my computer ram is maxed out at 512mb
[03:14] <jewbilee> Walrus: that said I must specificy a file system type
[03:15] <CorpusCallosum> i setup apache php5 phpmyadmin mysql to my gutsy, i worked well, but today when restart my computer i doesnt work. Even i wrote sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart command. how can i activate again how can i fix that
[03:15] <atlfalcons866>  #ubuntu+1
[03:17] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee:  do you know what partition you need to access? sda1 could be a swap partition for instance
[03:17] <shonen> corpus have you checked the logs? i believe you may find a reason there
[03:17] <Innomen> is there a shortcut key for brining up a terminal?
[03:17] <jo1> ubotu !apm
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <jo1> ubotu !acpi
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <genii> I'm tempted to say ctrl-alt-f1
[03:18] <jewbilee> we need to access /dev/sda
[03:18] <walrus_RUS> Innomen: Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[03:18] <adaniels> hi, does anyone know where the beryl package has gone to? I can't find it. I'm using 7.10.
[03:18] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: i switch among xfce, kde, and fluxbox
[03:18] <shonen> Innomen, try going through System -> Preferences (i believe) -> Shortcuts, has all the different shortcuts
[03:18] <kitche> adaniels: beryl is decrapted use compiz
[03:18] <WaltzingAlong> !beryl | adaniels
[03:18] <ubotu> adaniels: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:19] <jewbilee> but when I do sudo mount /dev/sda i get a Unknown filesystem type -promise_fasttrack_raid_member-
[03:19] <vaisami> Are there any programs like AutoCAD to Ubuntu?
[03:19] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: /dev/sda is a whole device. It must be seaprated to several partition.
[03:19] <Innomen> shonen: thank you, it was in there
[03:19] <jewbilee> im not sure
[03:19] <whiskeytango> when 7.10 comes out i wont need to format over everything and start from scratch, will I?
[03:19] <jewbilee> which partition then
[03:19] <WaltzingAlong> vaisami: like qcad?
[03:19] <adaniels> kitche: compiz doesn't have the cube and i can really configure anything with compiz
[03:19] <WaltzingAlong> !info qcad | vaisami
[03:19] <ubotu> vaisami: qcad: A professional CAD System. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.5.0-1-2 (feisty), package size 2950 kB, installed size 12596 kB
[03:19] <kitche> whiskeytango: no just update as usual
[03:19] <shonen> np, id like to point out you can set it to WHATEVER you want Innomen ^_^
[03:19] <ndube> adaniels: compiz has the cube
[03:19] <kitche> adaniels: it does have the cube you just have to enable it with tons of plugins
[03:19] <whiskeytango> thank you.  love you guys, be back in a few hours.
[03:20] <Bereanone> help a noobie with total system lockup/crash ubuntu gutsy
[03:20] <Innomen> shonen: it was disbaled by default, i set it to alt f3
[03:20] <adaniels> kitche: ok i'll have another look
[03:20] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: promise_fasttrack_raid_member??
[03:20] <adaniels> thnx
[03:20] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | Bereanone:
[03:20] <ubotu> Bereanone:: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[03:20] <kitche> adaniels: beryl is based on compiz which merged with compiz-extras to becoem compiz-fusion
[03:20] <jewbilee> i have 2 HDD in raid
[03:20] <jewbilee> that when i installed ubuntu on
[03:20] <shonen> haha cool my friend uses Alt+F1, dunno why. He uses a different window manager than gnome so it's wierd.
[03:20] <jewbilee> got the Vista MBR overwritten
[03:20] <shonen> weird*
[03:20] <Bereanone> tx
[03:20] <jewbilee> I need to access the grub bootmenu on them
[03:20] <jewbilee> but I cant navigate to them
[03:20] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: it looks like a part of hardware raid.
[03:21] <jewbilee> it is raided
[03:21] <jewbilee> with another hdd
[03:21] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: I very doubt you get access to this partition out of hardware raid
[03:21] <Yumyu> hi, could someone help me please, i got a question : is there a way to collect email from *sender* adresses from all email within Thunderbird or Eudora ?
[03:22] <WaltzingAlong> Yumyu: what do you mean collect?
[03:22] <shonen> isn't when you place two drives into an array they become one large drive? do the partitions actually hold up?
[03:22] <jewbilee> walrus: theres got to be a way
[03:22] <Yumyu> i mean get a list
[03:22] <WaltzingAlong> Yumyu: just to obtain a list of all the senders of the various email messages?
[03:22] <soundray> Yumyu: just sort by sender
[03:22] <vaisami> OK.. thanks.. where I can found this qCAD? or is it free?
[03:22] <Yumyu> yes
[03:22] <WaltzingAlong> vaisami: sudo aptitude install qcad
[03:22] <Yumyu> i need to be able to export that list
[03:22] <Innomen> has anyone here used truecrypt for ubuntu?
[03:23] <genii> Hmm. Ubotu's beryl lookup neds to be appended to note beryl is now compiz-fusion
[03:23] <Yumyu> not just see it
[03:23] <KoweSix> yes Innomen but got problems with it :p
[03:23] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: what is 'dmraid -r'  output?
[03:23] <soundray> Yumyu: highlight them, right-click and look at the context menu
[03:23] <Innomen> KoweSix: would you please help me figure out how to mount this drive? i've never used it before and my weakness with linux in general is making the help, simply incomprehensible
[03:24] <KoweSix> innomen: which filesystem is your encrypted drive?
[03:24] <Yumyu> soundray: there's nothing interested, i dont need to export the emails messages, just the sender email adresses
[03:25] <Everlong> does anyone know how to use the recovery boot option...i think i screwed up and i can't see my desktop now
[03:25] <vaisami> WaltzingAlong: OK.. thanks a lot.. soon i can stop using windows at all :)
[03:25] <Innomen> KoweSix: its a 300gb drive fully encrypted, when mounted and decrypted i think it mgiht be fat32, but i'm not sure, if i cant mount it, does it matter?
[03:25] <jewbilee> Wlarus: it sayd dmraid is not currently installed
[03:25] <shonen> mounting is as simple as mount -t filetype /file/extention  /folder/you/want/to/mountto but i think you're doing something a bit more different lol
[03:25] <soundray> Yumyu: I see. That's better done on the command line.
[03:25] <simu> hello, I have a strange problem using ubuntu 7.04 server for x64 architecture: cups, syslog and exim to panic from time to time. I analyzed the problem and found that the probelm are wrong permissions on /dev/null, it happens at ~6:30 every morning and in the eveaning at ~17:00
[03:25] <Innomen> shonen: was that meant for me?
[03:26] <shonen> yeah sorry forgot your name ^_^
[03:26] <shonen> forgot to add it lol
[03:26] <KoweSix> !pastebin
[03:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:26] <Innomen> shonen:  i believe there is confusion for me because mount is a linux term and a truecrypt term
[03:26] <Yumyu> is there any open source software that would do the work? to collect all email adresses in the sender field within an mbox, for example?
[03:26] <simu> the wrong pemissions are reset every day and are set to 600 instead of 666
[03:26] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: you need to install dmraid. Then run 'dmraid -ay' (it activates your hardware raid). then look what is new device name. then mount this new device. then edit your files
[03:26] <Pici> Yumyu: you probably could do it with a bunch of greps and seds.
[03:27] <jewbilee> we cant install dmraid
[03:27] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What is the English name of the followeing menu item: Gnome NetworkManager applet (left-click) > Manual configuration > network settings > links >  wire link > 'Roaming-mode activated'?
[03:27] <RvGaTe^work> i have a problem starting the installer for a Compaq NC6400 laptop... when booting, it fails to start X giving the error... no screens found... then gives me a message from syslogd@ubuntu... "Ubuntu kernel: [ 109.640000]  calling WQBA" any ideas how to fix this...
[03:27] <atlfalcons866> will ubuntu run on my old powerpc g4
[03:27] <jewbilee> were running off of the live CD
[03:27] <soundray> Yumyu: yes. You need to do it on the command line with a combination of grep, sort and uniq
[03:27] <KoweSix> Innomen:  already installed it?!
[03:27] <Stevethepirate> Hi, my X is broken, like won't start up. I'm in gutsy, but #ubuntu+1 is not helping :P ...
[03:27] <adaniels> ubotu: how can i configure compiz? I have the 'compiz-plugin', 'compiz-fusion-plugins-main' and 'compiz-fusion-plugins-extra' installed.
[03:27] <Innomen> KoweSix: yes
[03:28] <shonen> have you done a man truecrypt Innomen? im looking at their man page right now
[03:28] <Innomen> kowesix: truecrypt [OPTIONS]  VOLUME_PATH [MOUNT_DIRECTORY]  i dont understand "mount directory"
[03:28] <KoweSix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40253/
[03:28] <shonen> mount directory is where you want to "mount the drive"
[03:28] <Innomen> shonen: yes and it might as well be greek, i dont understand the very basics yet
[03:28] <shonen> like on ubuntu say i want it on my desktop
[03:28] <Stevethepirate> on startup, pc goes into low graphics mode, even though i configured it...
[03:28] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate: we need the log and the conf  /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:29] <Everlong> is there anyone who can help me with the recovery mode...? I'd apreciate the help
[03:29] <soundray> Yumyu: for example, 'grep ^From: Inbox | cut -d " " -f 2- | sort | uniq >~/temp-fromaddresses'
[03:29] <Innomen> shonen: desktop would be fine, anywhere
[03:29] <shonen> where i have a folder called encrypted-drive well just give the path to that folder, innomen
[03:29] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: i can't really give the whole log.. i'm on irssi...
[03:29] <Innomen> creating folder now
[03:29] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: is there a way i can get it to you?
[03:29] <KoweSix> i'm not an unix expert neither :p
[03:29] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate: just look through the log for errors  (EE)
[03:29] <shonen> that should work
[03:29] <Innomen> shonen: folder made :)
[03:29] <adaniels> how can i configure compiz? I have the 'compiz-plugin', 'compiz-fusion-plugins-main' and 'compiz-fusion-plugins-extra' installed. But I don't have the cube, nor any configuration windows. I can only disable/enable/enable+xtra it.
[03:29] <Stevethepirate> kk
[03:30] <shonen> ok now try truecrypt [whatever options you want]  VOLUME_PATH MOUNT_DIR
[03:30] <shonen> and see what happens
[03:30] <shonen> worst it can do is say no
[03:30] <walrus_RUS> jewbilee: sorry it's out of  my knowledge.
[03:30] <RvGaTe^work> anyone ?
[03:30] <Innomen> shonen: yes but what do i tell truecrypt? can you build an example command for me, the man tell ms thier function not the syntax
[03:30] <Pici> adaniels: Feisty or Gutsy?
[03:30] <KoweSix> Innomen:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40253/
[03:30] <soylent> hi, which package contains the 'mail' command? (someone with ubuntu >=7.04 maybe just type it in, the package will be given then) thx :)
[03:30] <Everlong> anyone?
[03:30] <Innomen> shonen:  see, thats what i dont understand [bracket talk] 
[03:31] <adaniels> Pici: Gutsy
[03:31] <shonen> sorry
[03:31] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: have you tried the Safe Graphics boot option?
[03:31] <Pici> adaniels: Can you join #ubuntu+1 please.
[03:31] <KoweSix> for example i mount my containerfiles with "truecrypt /media/disk-1/Documents1.TC /media/disk-2"
[03:31] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, yes, same problem
[03:31] <shonen> here you go is the sytanx from Truecrypts site innomen, http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/, scroll to the bottom they have some examples
[03:31] <berent> !qmake
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qmake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <berent> how to install qmake
[03:32] <Innomen> KoweSix: thank you thats exactly what i'm after
[03:32] <walrus_RUS> berebt qmake is part of qt
[03:32] <MikeDX> !search qmake
[03:32] <ubotu> Found:
[03:32] <Innomen> shonen: go look please
[03:32] <MikeDX> qt-utils or summat isnt it
[03:32] <shonen> yeah
[03:32] <Yumyu> sound: ok thanks
[03:32] <KoweSix> but i can just read from my files when i mounted them... dunno why, but maybe its because of ntfs :p
[03:32] <MikeDX> install the ntfs driver then whats it called now.. not the 3g one, the other one
[03:32] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: only occurence of '(EE)' in /var/log/Xorg.0.log is the '(EE) indicates an error' at the top...
[03:33] <Samuli^> why not ntfs-3g?
[03:33] <Innomen> how do i find out "my volume" ?
[03:33] <MikeDX> theres another one called fusion or something
[03:33] <Innomen> i'm looking at the properties for the drive, but i dont see what i'm supposed ot type
[03:33] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, any ideas ?
[03:33] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate: to reconfigure x          sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:34] <Innomen> so far i've got "truecrypt yourvolume /desktop/encrypted-drive"
[03:34] <Samuli^> Innomen, if you're running feisty you probably want to install ntfs-config
[03:34] <Pici> !fuse | MikeDX
[03:34] <ubotu> MikeDX: FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[03:34] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: one way would be to install in text mode using the alternate CD. Afterwards you can change the graphics driver to intel with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.
[03:35] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, so the ati drivers wont work? it has an ati gfx card integrated...
[03:35] <Innomen> KoweSix: ""truecrypt yourvolume /desktop/encrypted-drive"" how do i figure out "your volume" i see the drive i want to mount in "computer"
[03:35] <MikeDX> aha!
[03:35] <MikeDX> now it makes sense
[03:35] <joelito> Hi, anyone using else radeon getting problems?
[03:35] <L0GAN> good day
[03:35] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: okay, reconfigured
[03:36] <Stevethepirate> must i restart gdm now?
[03:36] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate:  sure sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:36] <Innomen> linux dosent use drive letters
[03:36] <Innomen> how do i tell it which drive to mount?
[03:36] <shonen> Innomen, if you see the drive in "computer" try to find out the filepath to that drive and use that as yourvolume
[03:36] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: same error
[03:37] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate: which video card? which module (driver)?
[03:37] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: oh, you've got the version with the ATI card.
[03:37] <L0GAN> anyone got info how to have a ubuntu version for on USB stick that can be boot from USB?
[03:37] <Innomen> shonen: would "mount point" be it?
[03:37] <Stevethepirate> looks like its changing resolution
[03:37] <Stevethepirate> but then hanges
[03:37] <L0GAN> I tried soem tutorial yesterday but almost every step didnt work
[03:37] <Stevethepirate> nvidia 7600gt
[03:37] <redguy_work> Does anybody know how to make LTSP terminal logins appear in utmp?
[03:37] <shonen> does it say mount point on it Innomen? i would say yes
[03:37] <Innomen> /media/disk-1
[03:38] <Innomen> ok thank you both
[03:38] <Innomen> attempting
[03:38] <WaltzingAlong> Steve
[03:38] <Everlong> does anyone know how to change options using the console in the recovery mode?
[03:38] <Stevethepirate> Yeah.
[03:38] <shonen> i hope it works for you Innomen
[03:38] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate:  gtg now but keep at it, you will get it
[03:38] <KoweSix> :] 
[03:38] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: sighs.. you gonna return ? :P
[03:38] <genii> Innomen: mount point is where it attaches or splices the drive into your directory structure. so if you mount a drive at directory /media/somewhere    then that dir is where you see the contents of the drive you mounted
[03:39] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: you could also boot as far as it goes, then switch to console mode with Ctrl-Alt-F2. From there you can reconfigure X like I said -- try both the VESA and the ATI drivers. Restart X with sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[03:39] <soundray> Everlong: you have to edit the config file in question with nano
[03:39] <shonen> genii is the genius round these thar parts Innomen. lol im on my windows box so i actually can't walk through it with you listen well :-P
[03:40] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, trying to start the installer... there is nothing to boot... so im downloading the alternative installer first
[03:40] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: hold on
[03:40] <Eva_> hello everybody. had a question not directly linked to ubuntu but this is the channel i am closest to.
[03:40] <genii> shonen: Well, you over-rate me. But i may be able to help
[03:40] <Stevethepirate> !ask
[03:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:41] <Eva_> if a machine is not a finite state machine, what is it ?
[03:41] <shonen> ^_^ genii, everyone needs a little boost every once in awhile haha
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> What the .... question is that?
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> thats a comp sci question
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> like.
[03:41] <walrus_RUS> Eva_:  may be car
[03:41] <L0GAN> I try asking in the #Linux channel
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> _nothing_ to linux
[03:41] <Eva_> because i was personally thinking that a machine always has a state
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> like, even remotely.
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> No.
[03:41] <Eva_> i mean even everything has a state , no ?
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> Wait
[03:41] <shonen> then it's it has non-deterministic states i would believe Eva. correct?
[03:41] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: your installer boots fine, it's just X that won't start. So do as I said, boot the CD as far as it will go and try to get a command line.
[03:42] <Stevethepirate> A FSM is like a tree structure
[03:42] <Stevethepirate> dude
[03:42] <Stevethepirate> wait
[03:42] <Eva_> shonen, i am not sure, trying to learn myself
[03:42] <Stevethepirate> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSM
[03:42] <Stevethepirate> maybe
[03:42] <Everlong> soundray: i'm sorry...didn't get it...newbie
[03:42] <shonen> gah, i had to talk about this in my mathmatical foundations of computer science
[03:42] <Pici> !offtopic | Eva_
[03:42] <ubotu> Eva_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:42] <shonen> are you doing AUtomata Emva?
[03:42] <shonen> err Eva
[03:43] <soundray> Everlong: what are you trying to fix?
[03:43] <Eva_> Stevethepirate, been to the wiki page already but doesnt say what it is not
[03:43] <Shmattie> Anyone have ideas on bug 144247? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome2/+bug/144247
[03:43] <Eva_> Pici, i know but some people are interested
[03:43] <genii> Innomen: If you did the command i gave earier: sudo fdisk -l      it would have listed all the drives on your system. they will have names like /dev/sda1 or /dev/hdb2   or so on like this. If there is a usable filesystem on the drive it can be mounted into a directory such as /media/somewhere like i just described. then you can see the contents of the drive when you list or visit that directory
[03:43] <Eva_> shonen, yeah automaton
[03:43] <Pici> Eva_: Okay, well, those interested people are also offtopic.
[03:43] <Everlong> soundray: I tried to use that "desktop effects" option but my video card mustn't suppsort it
[03:43] <L0GAN> i never used ubuntu before
[03:44] <soundray> Eva_: then you AND the people interested are wrong in this place
[03:44] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What is the English name of the followeing menu item: Gnome NetworkManager applet (left-click) > Manual configuration > network settings > links >  wire link > 'Roaming-mode activated'?
[03:44] <shriphani> I want to know the best utilities available for podcasting.
[03:44] <Eva_> Pici, lol
[03:44] <L0GAN> is there a place to get help?
[03:44] <Everlong> soundray: and now it's all white
[03:44] <Stevethepirate> Thats like saying 'every choice in life can be put into a tree structure'
[03:44] <Stevethepirate> it may be true
[03:44] <shonen> lol sorry Eva, im in offtopic too :-P haha i don't have my book on me. sorry man
[03:44] <Stevethepirate> but who cares?
[03:44] <Everlong> soundray: it's working but i donn't see anything
[03:44] <Zapt> hi
[03:44] <Zapt> when can I download the release candidate?
[03:44] <soundray> Everlong: but you can boot in recovery mode and get a command line?
[03:45] <shriphani> I tried audacity and whatever I record seems to be equipped with a high pitched noise in the background.
[03:45] <genii> Zapt: The link is in topic of channel #ubuntu+1
[03:45] <L0GAN> well maybe I should look at another version
[03:45] <Zapt> ok
[03:45] <regebro> Update: Dropping the bitdepth to 16 bits seem to have worked.
[03:46] <soundray> L0GAN: you could also just ASK your question
[03:46] <MrEgg964> Hi, I'm trying to connect to my router/vpn remotely. What would be an equivalent of SSH Sentinel ? TIA
[03:46] <Innomen> shonen: ok, trying the second dirve, this one cannot mount, but it is seen in computer, how do i point to it without mounting it for purposes of the truecrypt command line?
[03:47] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, same thing after the reconfigure...
[03:47] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: what did you do after the reconfigure?
[03:47] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, i tried to put in the values as far as i know, and selected the vesa driver
[03:47] <Everlong> soundray: when i'm choosing the OS in Grub there is the Ubuntu, Windows and Ubuntu...(recovery mode)
[03:48] <Innomen> KoweSix: ok, trying the second dirve, this one cannot mount, but it is seen in computer, how do i point to it without mounting it for purposes of the truecrypt command line?
[03:48] <walrus_RUS> MrEgg964: ssh sentinel is windows ssh client?
[03:48] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: and when you were done with the configuration, how did you restart X?
[03:48] <shonen> Innomen, is it giving an error when trying to mount
[03:48] <Innomen> or, how is an unmounted volume designated for command line purposes?
[03:48] <d1n0> Can anyone here help me? I've got hd2400 video card, got picture on both the lcd screen and the tv, but the picture is cloned... how can i extend my desktop to the tv? I'm running Xubuntu, and YES i HAVE tried for DAYS to get an answer at #xubuntu, but that channel is as dead as jesus christ........
[03:48] <Innomen> shonen: yes
[03:48] <MrEgg964> walrus_RUS: yes, where I can set my remote server ip, pre-shared key, etc.
[03:48] <soundray> Everlong: yes, I know that. I'm asking, do you get a command line in recovery mode or not?
[03:48] <shonen> Innomen: Error please ^_^
[03:48] <Innomen> shonen: this is a good sign
[03:49] <Innomen> no, please just answer the question
[03:49] <ibob63> I need to find a word with a group of files within a folder. Can anyone tell me which command is best?
[03:49] <genii> Innomen: An unmounted volume only exists as a /dev entry until you mount it someplace
[03:49] <Everlong> soundray: yes, yes I do
[03:49] <KoweSix> just copy&paste the error line -.-
[03:49] <shonen> yeah, what genii said Innomen
[03:49] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, please... im not stupid, im a good reader... i used the stuff you said
[03:49] <soundray> Everlong: are you chatting on another machine?
[03:49] <Innomen> genii: cool, how would i find out what the dev entry is for this drive?
[03:49] <Hoosteen> hiya all...i've got compiz installed and my volumes are not showing on my desktop..i went into gconf and ticked the show volumes but they still aren't showing up..any ideas?
[03:49] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: I can't make that assumption before I know you :)
[03:50] <shonen> will fdisk show all partions, genii?
[03:50] <KoweSix> disk by path
[03:50] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, now you know :)
[03:50] <Everlong> soundray: nope, on windows,but i'll take notes :p
[03:50] <L0GAN> soundray : i tried yesterday when i was on ubuntu live
[03:50] <walrus_RUS> MrEgg964: in linux you can use just 'ssh'
[03:50] <L0GAN> im now on windows atm
[03:50] <genii> Innomen: You can normally deduce what drive it is by examining output of: sudo fdisk -l    which shows all drives, mounted or otherwise. then the command: mount   by itself shows you which drives are already mounted.
[03:50] <Innomen> fdisk -l did it
[03:50] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i add/install my scanner to ubuntu?
[03:51] <soundray> Everlong: run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and set the graphics driver to VESA. For everything else, accept the defaults. Then enter reboot.
[03:51] <walrus_RUS> MrEgg964: just type 'ssh yourname@yourserverIP '
[03:51] <MrEgg964> walrus_RUS: from terminal ? If so, si there a gui equivalent, where I can save my settings ?
[03:51] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, i normally use debian for servers, at home i use debian aswell, and my collegue wants to have ubuntu on his laptop (to try out beryl and stuff) so i offered him a hand... just a pain in the ass if the auto detection of the screen doesn't work...
[03:51] <genii> shonen: fdisk -l shows all drives, yes
[03:51] <seppe> hi, is the latest daily build safe enough to install? I'm going on holiday for a few weeks but I want a fresh and up to date ubuntu installation
[03:51] <Everlong> soundray: ok, that's it? =)
[03:52] <Innomen> "truecrypt /dev/sdb2 /desktop/encrypted-drive"
[03:52] <soundray> RvGaTe^work: I think your best option is to get the alternate CD. Then you can at least install a CLI-based system. Maybe the graphics will even work "out of the box" after an alternate install.
[03:52] <genii> Innomen: since i don't use trucrypt i may not be much help with that particular program.
[03:52] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i add/install my scanner to ubuntu?
[03:52] <Innomen> Cannot open volume: No such file or directory
[03:52] <Innomen> genii: you've already been very helpful, thank you
[03:53] <shonen> Pirate_Hunter, have you tried just pluggin the Scanner in?
[03:53] <Hoosteen> hiya all...i've got compiz installed and my volumes are not showing on my desktop..i went into gconf and ticked the show volumes but they still aren't showing up..any ideas?
[03:53] <Innomen> so in order for truecrypte to see the drive it MUST be mounted
[03:53] <RvGaTe^work> soundray, will try that.. burning the cd as we speak
[03:53] <shonen> Alot of hardware is recognized just instantly.
[03:53] <Pirate_Hunter> shonen: yeha it should pick up automatically but i have no clue how to work with it from ubuntu
[03:53] <gorski> I cannot enter phpmyadmin. what does this mean, how to correct it: /var/www/phpmyadmin/.htaccess: Option FollowSymLinks not allowed here
[03:53] <seppe> I have an ati card, when I do an installation of Gutsy .. will it use the fglrx+XGL+compiz fusion combo? or the ati+aiglx+compiz fusion combo?
[03:54] <dave__> Pirate_Hunter: Applications -> Graphics -> XSane Image Scanner
[03:54] <shonen> you should be able to see it if it's been installed correctly in i believe System
[03:54] <genii> Innomen: According to http://hype-free.blogspot.com/2007/04/installing-and-using-truecrypt-on.html    truecrypt needs the drive fs specified as FAT whether it is or not
[03:54] <Innomen> shonen: the mount error says bad "fs" type
[03:54] <Innomen> genii: can i do that without writing to the disk itself?
[03:54] <Pirate_Hunter> dave__: thanx
[03:54] <Jammer> seppe, afaik Gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1
[03:54] <dave__> Pirate_Hunter: np :)
[03:54] <seppe> Jammer: thx!
[03:54] <shonen> Innomen, fs means filesystem. it can't use that type.
[03:54] <Pirate_Hunter> dave__: wow too many options dont even know where to start
[03:55] <Innomen> shonen: well its encrypted, i has no file type, its gibberish
[03:55] <autodidakt> hi, i cant mount my cdrom right now dont know why. if i type mount /media/cdrom i get an error
[03:55] <belkar> Hello. I just bought a new laptop, and I would like to use Gutsy once it is released. My question is: Will I have a better Gutsy installation if I wait until it is oficially released, or coud I try to install the beta or Feisty now and upgrade when it is possible? If so, should I choose the Gutsy beta or Feisty? Thanks a lot for your time and work.
[03:56] <genii> Innomen: In truecrypt i am not certain. normally for a regular mount command you would specify filesystem type like:   mount -t fat  /dev/sdX /mountpoint
[03:56] <dave__> Pirate_Hunter: :).  Generally the process is to acquire a preview, then drag a rectangle to select what area you want, then scan, then save
[03:56] <MikeDX> I still use edgy...
[03:56] <steel_lady> I need to find people from a specific city in a specific town and the only way I know how to accomplish what I nees id through some particular chat that I can not visit because linux is incapable of visualising the page
[03:56] <Innomen> genii: does that write to the volume header?
[03:56] <soundray> belkar: either way, you will end up with the same system. It may be worth creating a new user once you've updated to the release version.
[03:56] <Pirate_Hunter> dave__: i click scan but it dont scan yet it detects scanner.. whats going on?
[03:56] <Innomen> i wish i could flip a read only switch on this disk
[03:57] <Pici> steel_lady: Is there a question there?
[03:57] <genii> Innomen: This does not make fat filesystem on drive or alter any partition things etc etc, just tells linux what sort of fs to expect to try and read from that device
[03:57] <Innomen> ahhh good
[03:57] <Innomen> ok
[03:57] <MikeDX> steel_lady: ie6 runs in linux at a push :)
[03:57] <belkar> Thanks a lot, soundray. Then I'll create a temporal user until Gusty comes =)
[03:57] <Innomen> genii: can you walk me through the option you presented above?
[03:57] <dave__> Pirate_Hunter: hm, not sure sorry.  Is there a preview button anywhere?
[03:57] <steel_lady> Pici, yes, do you have any idea how to log in to the page?
[03:58] <Pici> !ies4linux > steel_lady (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:58] <steel_lady> MikeDX I think I need shockwave
[03:58] <Pirate_Hunter> dave__: havent found it yet :(
[03:58] <Innomen> genii: mounting the volume and telling ubuntu that it is fat32 (is that what you said it wanted) ?
[03:58] <genii> Innomen: to break down what is happening in the sample mount command?
[03:58] <Pici> steel_lady: You could try that, its internet explorer in wine
[03:58] <MikeDX> i dont think shockwave works in IE in wine :(
[03:58] <genii> Innomen: The truecrypt howto i found for Feisty says truecrypt expects fat filesystem no matter what it actually is
[03:58] <Innomen> /dev/sdb2 is the unmounted volume in question
[03:59] <miles8> Can anyone recommend an simple way to throttle / limit the bandwidth to a particular ip?
[03:59] <Innomen> genii: how would i mount /dev/sdb2 as a FAT volume?
[03:59] <henrix> can anyone tell me whether it is possible to install ubuntu on a sparc32 box (I have an old ss20)?
[03:59] <brobostigon> mount -f vfat
[03:59] <MikeDX> mount /dev/sdb2 /mount/point -f vfat
[03:59] <gorski> I cannot enter phpmyadmin. what does this mean, how to correct it: /var/www/phpmyadmin/.htaccess: Option FollowSymLinks not allowed here
[04:00] <steel_lady> Pici, but it is not IE, I need shockwave
[04:00] <autodidakt> hi, i cant mount my cdrom right now dont know why. if i type mount /media/cdrom i get an error
[04:00] <Innomen> MikeDX: please give me a safe /mount/point
[04:00] <Pici> steel_lady: There is no version of shockwave for linux.  You also could try installing firefox in wine and installing shockwave on that firefox.
[04:00] <MikeDX> make a folder in /media
[04:00] <MikeDX>  /media/disk
[04:00] <gorski> I cannot enter phpmyadmin. I get a 500 Internal Server Error. Somebody help?
[04:00] <gorski> please!
[04:00] <soundray> miles8: I haven't read this thread myself, but it may point you in the right direction: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7990
[04:01] <Innomen> mikedx: there is already a folder media/disk
[04:01] <genii> Innomen: to mount (normally) that then, if a dir like /media/fatdrive existed:    sudo mount -t <ostype> /dev/sdb2 /media/fatdrive    where <ostype> can be: msdos or vfat    for regular fat you want msdos as <ostype> for fat32 you want vfat
[04:01] <Pici> gorski: have you asked in #phpmyadmin ?
[04:01] <henrix> sparc32, anyone??
[04:01] <gorski> no, ok
[04:01] <soundray> !repeat | henrix
[04:01] <ubotu> henrix: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:01] <steel_lady> Pici, can you somehow chech is it the shockwave I need for displaying the second part of this page: http://www.terra.es/chat/salas/sala_6_72.htm
[04:02] <Pici> steel_lady: sure, hold on.
[04:02] <bidha2kbsd>  hi friends...i just facing strange problem..my virtualhost setup is okay..as i can browse them perfectly fine..from localserver..i.e with lynx or links..its show all virtualdomain correctly..also in same server i have dns server..which is also okay..but the problem is when i try to access the same virtual host from client pc  .. i get the default page of apache ..it happens only from outside my network (client side)..whats the issue is it the issue wit
[04:02] <dave__> Pirate_Hunter: hmm, i don't have a scanner attached atm so I'm a bit useless sorry :|
[04:02] <MikeDX> Innomen: make a new folder then /media/my_mount
[04:02] <Innomen> Mikedx: it will not let me make a folder there
[04:03] <shonen> Innomen, have you sudo mkdir?
[04:03] <brobostigon> sudo mkdir
[04:03] <Innomen> i dont know the command line
[04:03] <shonen> Innomen, sudo mkdir /media/my_mount
[04:03] <Innomen> thats a big reason to log in as super user *glare*
[04:03] <Innomen> shonen: thank you
[04:03] <shonen> it'll prompt for password, you give it the root password
[04:03] <Innomen> it should do that in the gui
[04:03] <Innomen> anyway
[04:03] <soundray> shonen: the root password?
[04:03] <shonen> sudoers password :-P
[04:04] <MikeDX> no, its NOT the root password
[04:04] <shonen> sorry there is no real root in ubuntu
[04:04] <MikeDX> or the sudoers password
[04:04] <MikeDX> its YOUR OWN PASSWORD! :)
[04:04] <shonen> hahahaha technically he has to be in the sudoers file!
[04:04] <Innomen> mikedx: directory created
[04:04] <soundray> shonen: there is, but the account is locked.
[04:05] <MikeDX> well, technically you can just give root a password but lets not pick flies
[04:05] <Innomen> mikedx: ok, what now?
[04:05] <genii> Innomen: You may like to look at that page, http://hype-free.blogspot.com/2007/04/installing-and-using-truecrypt-on.html   the parts after the install details where it has about what filesystems and so on is informative.
[04:05] <Innomen> genii: i plan to abandon truecrypt afte ri save my data, if i can save it :(
[04:05] <bintut> hello all..
[04:05] <Pici> steel_lady: I dont get any chat window on mine, and I'm running firefox on Windows right now.  The FAQ (I guess, I dont speak/read spanish) http://www.terra.es/chat/aprende.htm says Flash 9.
[04:05] <genii> work, away from keyboard a few minutes
[04:06] <bintut> how do i disable NetworkManager?
[04:07] <MikeDX> now as root, do sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/my_mount -f vfat
[04:07] <Innomen>  mount /dev/sdb2 /media/my_mount with what swtiches to make it show as fat?
[04:07] <Innomen> just to confirm
[04:07] <soundray> bintut: sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[04:07] <Innomen> this will NOT write to the drive
[04:07] <steel_lady> Pici I have flash player 9 installed
[04:07] <shonen> no won't write to the drive
[04:07] <Innomen> ok
[04:07] <MikeDX> it will just let you see the files
[04:07] <MikeDX> it wont write anything
[04:07] <shonen> mount just let's ubuntu read it
[04:07] <shonen> that's all
[04:08] <MikeDX> you can add -o ro if you like
[04:08] <Pici> steel_lady: As do I.  Its not working for me on Windows either. I can't check IE here though.
[04:08] <bintut> soundray: that's a better idea.. :)
[04:08] <steel_lady> pici it is under the name flushplugin-nonfree. can it be that something is wrong with the instalation?
[04:08] <Pici> steel_lady: I doubt it.
[04:08] <Innomen> it didnt like that, the mount command spit a help thing at me like i gave it a syntax error
[04:08] <soundray> bintut: it will ask you to remove ubuntu-desktop as well. That's fine, it's just a metapackage.
[04:09] <genii> Innomen: Switch the "-f" to a -t
[04:10] <Innomen> mount: special device /dev/sdb2 does not exist
[04:10] <steel_lady> Pici, but I have problems with other pages also. For eg. infojobs.net
[04:10] <bintut> soundray: but it will not remove other packages?  will it not affect the entire behaviour of the desktop?
[04:10] <soundray> bintut: no, not at all.
[04:10] <bintut> ok
[04:11] <Innomen> genii: -t returned what i just psted
[04:11] <Pici> steel_lady: Perhaps its a firefox incompatibility, you could try in wine.
[04:11] <soundray> bintut: it makes a difference only if you decide to upgrade to gutsy one day. Then you should do an 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' before you go ahead.
[04:11] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What is the English name of the followeing menu item: Gnome NetworkManager applet (left-click) > Manual configuration > network settings > links >  wire link > 'Roaming-mode activated'?
[04:11] <Innomen> thank you all for your help by the way, this is MOSt important to me
[04:12] <bintut> soundray: actually, i'm running gutsy already.. :)
[04:12] <genii> Innomen: It would seem you need to find which drive device it actually needs, since it cannot find sdb2 in the list of devices
[04:12] <j0hn> Hey everybody. How do I do keyboard bindings? For example, I would love to have CTRL+ALT+DEL open the System Monitor...
[04:12] <Innomen> genii: but its right there in fdisk -l
[04:13] <soundray> bintut: well, same applies when you upgrade to HH
[04:13] <Innomen> genii: what do i do?
[04:13] <Ubersoldat> j0hn: gconf
[04:13] <bintut> soundray: yeah..
[04:13] <bintut> soundray: thanks.. :)
[04:13] <soundray> bintut: the hoarse horse or whatever it will be.
[04:13] <Pici> soundray: Hardy Heron
[04:13] <rjune> Is php-cups in gutsy?
[04:13] <genii> innomen: does:  ls /dev/sdb?      produce an output which shows sdb2 ?
[04:13] <soundray> Oh yeah, thanks Pici
[04:14] <Pici> rjune: you can look on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:14] <j0hn> Ubersoldat, i'm a newb with linux... isn't that a config file somwhere?
[04:14] <Ubersoldat> j0hn: type in a console gconf-editor
[04:15] <j0hn> thanks
[04:15] <Innomen> genii: when i type "ls /dev/sdb" in a terminal, i get a yellow on black text print out of "/dev/sdb" and thats all
[04:15] <soundray> j0hn: hold on...
[04:15] <genii> innomen: use:  ls /dev/sdb?                           with the ?
[04:15] <soundray> j0hn: probably easier to go through System-Preferences-Keyboard shortcuts
[04:15] <Innomen> oky
[04:16] <Innomen> genii: It returns "ls: /dev/sdb?: No such file or directory"
[04:16] <darrint> Anyone know where to find a list of usb video cameras or digitizers that work well out of the box with feisty?
[04:16] <Innomen> so should i just mount without the 2?
[04:16] <Ubersoldat> soundray is right... Im just used to use gconf
[04:16] <Innomen> like... "sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/my_mount -f vfat"?
[04:16] <Pici> !webcam > darrint (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[04:16] <soundray> darrint: for digitizers, you should probably look at the sane project's compatibility list
[04:17] <MikeDX> if /dev/sdb doesnt exist, surely the bios hasnt picked it up
[04:17] <soundray> darrint: with webcams, the problem is that sometimes the internals change while the model name stays the same.
[04:17] <Innomen> mikedx: it shows in computer, a 279gb volume as it should
[04:17] <j0hn> Ubersoldat and soundray - thanks. gconf-editor looks more capable (for multiple tasks?), but Keyboard Shortcuts just seems easier for me to use so i'll try that.
[04:17] <darrint> Pici: Thanks. I hadn't seen those before.
[04:17] <darrint> soundray: Yes. I've seen that with wireless cards too.
[04:17] <MikeDX> Innomen: is it shown in the list when you do mount -l ?
[04:18] <soundray> j0hn: I'm not sure whether you can tie a key to System Monitor, though
[04:18] <Innomen> mikedx: and fdisk -l shows it as well, as /dev/sdb2
[04:18] <Innomen> mikedx: no
[04:18] <closcadura> hi
[04:18] <genii> Innomen: The device system is seeing only that drive exists but no partitioniong information to list subdevices like sdb1 sdb2 sdb<whatevernumber>     This can happen if you partitioned it recently but did not yet reboot for the system to see therere are partitions (why fdisk would list it but not appear in /dev)
[04:19] <obsolete> What's the best way to share files between linux and windows?
[04:19] <MikeDX> samba
[04:19] <closcadura> could someone paste me in a private window the result of "host mares.croac.name 85.52.225.39" ?
[04:19] <soundray> darrint: I always buy from dealers that give me a no-quibbles exchange without a restocking fee
[04:19] <soundray> obsolete: file system or network?
[04:19] <Innomen> genii: its encrytped, in true crypt, it always showed as unparitioned in windows
[04:19] <Innomen> the / system sucks compared to drive letters
[04:19] <Innomen> >:(
[04:19] <j0hn> soundray: is it possible to add new commands to they Keyboard Shortcuts?
[04:20] <genii> innomen: my workplace needs me for a few minutes but I'll return. ...lag Ah, yes it may be some idiosyncrasy then of trucrypt (which i am not that familiar with)
[04:20] <Innomen> genii: oky thanx
[04:21] <soundray> j0hn: it's not straightforward. Maybe have a look at the keytouch package
[04:21] <Innomen> god this is so frustrating! why cant there be a simple way to designate a device in the command line, or more simply why cant there be a gui for truecrypt linux like there is for windows *sigh*
[04:21] <soundray> !info keytouch | j0hn
[04:21] <ubotu> j0hn: keytouch: A program to configure the extra function keys of the keyboard. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.99+2.3.0beta4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 419 kB, installed size 1888 kB
[04:22] <j0hn> soundray: okay, i'll open synaptic and look into it
[04:22] <soundray> Innomen: you should put that question to the truecrypt developers, not to us.
[04:22] <obsolete> soundray: filesystem
[04:22] <Innomen> soundray: its rhetorical, they would not appreciate it, i'm just venting
[04:23] <soundray> obsolete: if you have admin powers in Windows, use ext3 and the ext2fsd Windows driver. If not, use fat32 (and backup carefully)
[04:23] <Innomen> i was right
[04:23] <Innomen> removing the 2 allowed it to mount
[04:23] <chippy> steel_lady still around? meh. http://chfl.terra.es/servicio/chatclient.swf?29112002
[04:23] <Innomen> or rather allowed truecrypt to see it
[04:23] <ndube> closcadura; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40261/
[04:24] <closcadura> ndube thanks!!
[04:24] <closcadura> see you
[04:24] <ndube> np
[04:24] <h0vding> I have some problems burning a .iso image.. first time I just used CD/DVD creator and everything worked perfectly.. but afther I have rebooted my computer it looks like it doesnt read my blank cd's or any other dvd cd.. anyway I could backdoor this with using terminal ? (commands)
[04:25] <MikeDX> cdroast is a command line client
[04:25] <Poromenos> how can i have ubuntu always update automatically, without asking at all?
[04:26] <kaushal> hi
[04:26] <fiXXXerMet> I have 424 folders inside of a folder and I want to cp all but 1 of them.  Is there any way to cp -r the parent folder but have it ignore a specified one?
[04:26] <kaushal> I have downloaded FF Browser 2.0.0.7
[04:26] <Poromenos> fiXXXerMet: move the one you don't want out, cp, move back in :)
[04:26] <kaushal> how do i add it to the Applications/Internet
[04:26] <fiXXXerMet> Poromenos: Probably the easiest way :)
[04:26] <Poromenos> yep
[04:27] <soundray> kaushal: not at all. Install the ubuntu package instead.
[04:27] <kaushal> soundray where can i find it
[04:28] <Pici> kaushal: I believe 2.0.0.6 is the latest one in the repositories right now, but it will be updated.
[04:28] <h0vding> MikeDX: Im a linux noob can u tell my more about it ?
[04:28] <kaushal> I am running ubuntu 7.04 and FF 2.0.0.6
[04:28] <soundray> kaushal: it's not out yet. Wait until it's out.
[04:28] <kaushal> :(
[04:28] <Pici> kaushal: Is there is a reason you need 2.0.0.7?
[04:29] <kaushal> yeah its stable and have new features :)
[04:29] <Pici> kaushal: Its just a security release.
[04:29] <kaushal> ok
[04:29] <soundray> kaushal: in other words, you don't know why.
[04:30] <fevel> hey guys
[04:30] <Innomen> does grub over write the same place as mbr?
[04:30] <fevel> im having trouble running beryl
[04:30] <genii> innomen: I am back. Give me a few minutes to google and read some info about truecrypt so that i will perhaps have a better understanding of it.
[04:30] <kaushal> is there a way to install FF 2.0.0.7 on ubuntu 7.04
[04:30] <fevel> I have installed it
[04:30] <Pici> kaushal: This is the only fix: http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2007/mfsa2007-28.html
[04:30] <fevel> but nothing happesn
[04:30] <Innomen> genii: here please look at this
[04:30] <MikeDX> h0vding: sure
[04:30] <frojnd> Is there any program that first loads movie and than u start it like on this page http://joox.net/cat/249/id/1435932   U need a program that support .divx formats. I've tryed with vlc and totem but they stopes when there is'n enough data loaded... I wanna a player similar to youtube. Where u see movie is being loaded.  If u have low internet speed u can first start load it and than play it. So any program that allows buffering like in youtube
[04:30] <frojnd>  ??
[04:30] <Innomen> http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtopic.php?p=36425#36425
[04:30] <MikeDX> h0vding: sudo apt-get install cdroast, man cdroast
[04:30] <soundray> kaushal: not at the moment, but it's a matter of hours.
[04:30] <fevel> I have the diamond next to the clock
[04:30] <kaushal> oh ok
[04:30] <h0vding> kk thx Il look into it
[04:30] <Pici> kaushal: The vulnerability only exists on Windows computers, the update is trivial on Linux.
[04:30] <kaushal> Thanks soundray
[04:31] <Innomen> genii: sorry, http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtopic.php?p=36425#36425 that is exactly my situation
[04:31] <kaushal> soundray so when is it going to be updated
[04:31] <kaushal> as you said few hours
[04:31] <h0vding> MikeDX: E: Couldn't find package cdroast
[04:31] <genii> Innomen: OK, reading etc
[04:31] <Pici> kaushal: Did you read my response?
[04:31] <MikeDX> !search cdroast
[04:31] <ubotu> Found: burners
[04:31] <kaushal> yeah
[04:31] <MikeDX> !search burners
[04:31] <ubotu> Found: cdrw, burners, burn, burner, burning
[04:31] <Innomen> except, it was mispoint grub root/setups that did it
[04:31] <MikeDX> hmm
[04:31] <MikeDX> i dunno what the package is
[04:31] <Innomen> gah
[04:31] <fevel> can someone please help me
[04:32] <soundray> kaushal: come back when you have a *real* problem.
[04:32] <kaushal> thanks
[04:32] <genii> Innomen: That site requires a login which i'm not inclined to sign up for right now
[04:32] <h0vding> can someone give me a link or tell me a way to burn bootable .iso files with commands ?
[04:32] <MikeDX> h0vding: sudo apt-get install cdrecord, man cdrecord
[04:32] <CoCHnSexSby> helo
[04:32] <soundray> !please > fevel
[04:32] <soundray> !enter > fevel
[04:33] <Innomen> genii: thats fine, can i paste something to your privately? do you see my current pm?
[04:33] <soundray> !burniso > h0vding, please read the private message from ubotu
[04:33] <h0vding> MikeDX: got same message
[04:33] <h0vding> thanks soundray I'll have a look
[04:33] <rjune> Pici: thanks. it's not in there
[04:34] <genii> innomen: No, no pm shows. Likely your name is not registered on freenode yet
[04:34] <h0vding> hmm
[04:34] <CoCHnSexSby> any person with cam here?
[04:34] <Innomen> oh it it, let me log in
[04:34] <MikeDX> really??
[04:34] <proteus_> q
[04:34] <fevel> ok thank you
[04:34] <MikeDX> oh you ned the multiverse enabled
[04:34] <h0vding> my I need to try to burn it with commands because now for some reason it doesnt read any of my dvd cd's...
[04:34] <Innomen> see it now?
[04:34] <MikeDX> do you know how to do that
[04:34] <MikeDX> !multiverse > h0vding
[04:34] <genii> Innomen: I have found the online manpage, reading it now
[04:35] <h0vding> kk
[04:35] <MikeDX> dunno is that worked
[04:35] <Innomen> genii: oky
[04:35] <h0vding> it owrked. so Ill check
[04:35] <soundray> h0vding: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning
[04:36] <asfak> how can i play gsm files in ubuntu ?
[04:36] <soundray> asfak: what are they?
[04:36] <frojnd> Is there any program that first loads movie and than u start it like on this page http://joox.net/cat/249/id/1435932   U need a program that support .divx formats. I've tryed with vlc and totem but they stopes when there is'n enough data loaded... I wanna a player similar to youtube. Where u see movie is being loaded.  If u have low internet speed u can first start load it and than play it. So any program that allows buffering like in youtube
[04:36] <frojnd>  ??
[04:36] <soundray> asfak: voice audio?
[04:36] <genii> innomen: Hmm. did you already do something like: truecrypt /dev/somedevice /somemountdirectory         ?
[04:37] <asfak> yes
[04:37] <Innomen> genii: yes and it returns incorrect pass or not TC volume
[04:37] <soundray> !info sweep | asfak
[04:37] <CoCHnSexSby> hey ALL
[04:37] <ubotu> asfak: sweep: An editor for sound samples. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 510 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[04:37] <CoCHnSexSby> any girl have webcam?
[04:37] <soundray> CoCHnSexSby: please don't do this. This is a support channel for ubuntu.
[04:37] <Innomen> genii: i pasted you the solution from the forum
[04:38] <Pici> frojnd: I usually download the .divx files and play them with vlc, they will open before they are finished downloading.
[04:38] <asfak> i could play that using Zgsmplay in shell, but i wan't to play that in firefox. i wil try sweep
[04:39] <asfak> frojnd, i can play that in my kubuntu using mozilla-mplayer plugin
[04:39] <lionel_hutz> hi.  I'm trying to install the newest version of pidgin, but don't know how.  I've downloaded the source, but don't know what to do with it.  any advice?
[04:39] <frojnd> asfak: thanx
[04:40] <chippy> you will need to compile and then install it lionel_hutz
[04:40] <soundray> lionel_hutz: which version of ubuntu?
[04:40] <chippy> have a look in the file called readme in the folder that the source is in
[04:41] <lionel_hutz> 7.04
[04:41] <ipx> lionel_hutz: www.getdeb.net <- download the ubuntu package there :)
[04:41] <Downix> egads, can't find a distro that likes my CPU
[04:41] <ipx> Its a double-click install
[04:41] <Innomen> thanks guys
[04:43] <h0vding> how to boot with a .iso file ?
[04:43] <h0vding> without burning it.
[04:43] <soundray> lionel_hutz: can you wait for a week and upgrade to gutsy (7.10)?
[04:44] <lionel_hutz> ipx: that's a handy site.  thanks!
[04:44] <soundray> h0vding: one of the many links on the install page as advice for you:
[04:44] <soundray> !install > h0vding
[04:44] <nicolai__> hi
[04:44] <lionel_hutz> yes, I will.  my system isn't running well
[04:44] <ipx> 7 small days... :-D
[04:45] <soundray> lionel_hutz: pidgin will be in gutsy.
[04:46] <h0vding> !automate
[04:46] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[04:46] <hmx> why rtorrent can not normaly download files like deluge?
[04:46] <soundray> h0vding: you can converse directly with ubotu in the pm window.
[04:47] <Polysics> hi all
[04:47] <soundray> !hi | Polysics
[04:47] <ubotu> Polysics: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:47] <Polysics> anyone knows how i can set some PHP option for only a directory under stock 7.04 LAMP install?
[04:47] <Polysics> the good ole .htaccess gets ignored
[04:49] <pete83> I want to know if there is any way to write a script to connect to a network using NetworkManager. Anybody know about this?
[04:49] <Juancabrito> Hi, I've installed ubuntu server, as a LAMP server suposedly, but I wasn't able to find any of the componets I guessed were instaled... so I did that afterwards (install them I mean), with no luck... then I tried XAMPP... no luck with mySql. Also I don't know how to upload pages to this server to test them. Help please, I'm about to give up ubuntu
[04:49] <WaltzingAlong> Juancabrito: give up then. come back when ready
[04:50] <Juancabrito> what you mean with "ready"
[04:50] <WaltzingAlong> Juancabrito:  otherwise start   sudo aptitude            find lamp-server         install that
[04:50] <soundray> pete83: if you're willing to write a script, my suggestion would be to disable/bypass network-manager
[04:50] <h0vding> soundray: the install guide without burning a cd is based on using windows :o
[04:51] <soundray> h0vding: I think there are other relevant links as well.
[04:51] <h0vding> kk
[04:52] <anomalia> hi guys does anybody know if there will be an ubuntustudio gutsy release?
[04:52] <soundray> h0vding: Installation/FromLinux
[04:52] <Polysics> Juancabrito, not to sound too rough, but i think you need to read up a bit :-)
[04:52] <pete83> soundray: Well I think I like NetworkManager, it's just that sometimes it takes it 10 minutes to detect my network, even though if I go to "connect to other wireless network" and then re-enter all the info in manually, it will connect instantly
[04:52] <Polysics> still the deafult dir should be /var/www
[04:52] <Polysics> and what do you mean with "find"?
[04:52] <Polysics> the apps?
[04:52] <Juancabrito> Polysics: I've read a lot
[04:53] <Polysics> try installing phpmyadmin, if that works everything else does
[04:53] <Polysics> it's my first test
[04:53] <soundray> pete83: have you tried a plain 'sudo ifup wlan0'?
[04:53] <Juancabrito> Polysics: Isn't it supposed to be installed with XAMPP?
[04:54] <pete83> soundray: no, what's that?
[04:54] <Juancabrito> Polysics: I have it installed but doesn't work
[04:54] <soundray> pete83: man ifup
[04:55] <pete83> soundray: my wireless card is working, it just detects some networks and not others... and about half the time, not the one I want for quite a few minutes
[04:55] <Polysics> any error messages?
[04:56] <bulmer> Juancabrito: what commands are you using to test?  do you find any new entries in /etc/init.d/  ?
[04:57] <Juancabrito> Polysics: Error: 2002 The server is not responding...
[04:57] <sygnatech> hello guys and gals...  doing a LAMP install on 6.06 and trying to do a software raid 1.  I had several "
[04:57] <Juancabrito> bulmer: I will try it now
[04:58] <Juancabrito> bulmer: what's the command for that?
[04:58] <Polysics> i've never used the packaged lamp tbh
[04:58] <Polysics> always installed the pieces by hand
[04:58] <Polysics> much more control and you actualyl know what you're doing
[04:58] <h0vding> soundray one thing I didnt understand quite was, "cp MYLINUX.iso /distro/distro.iso" cp mylinux.iso how to direct it to where I have the iso file ?
[04:58] <bulmer> Juancabrito: thats why I asked you what commands did you use to test?
[04:58] <Juancabrito> Polysics: I've tried that with the same in mind, but thing went worse
[04:59] <tarzeau> are there any snowballz player?
[04:59] <soundray> h0vding: which instructions are you following?
[04:59] <sygnatech> issues" when I first tried to do this but I fixed them.  But now when setup is complete and it goes to reboot the system, it tells me that it is reconstructing md1.  It just sits there and does nothing.  When I reboot, it pops up an error in grub and won't boot.  error to follow...
[04:59] <Juancabrito> bulmer: I can't remember now, sorry, I'm new in this and thought it would be easier with ubuntu
[04:59] <Juancabrito> bulmer: I've made a lot of things here
[05:00] <h0vding> install any linux distro directrly from harddisk without burnung any cd..
[05:00] <iarwain1> Hiya, does anyone know where ssh keeps my log files?
[05:00] <soundray> sygnatech: don't paste errors please
[05:00] <sygnatech> kk
[05:00] <bulmer> Juancabrito: i can not guess what you did, so try to remember what command you used
[05:00] <soundray> h0vding: point me to the page please
[05:00] <soundray> !pastebin | sygnatech
[05:00] <ubotu> sygnatech: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:00] <h0vding> paste link in query ?
[05:01] <PhenGy> what to type for ssh server?  sudo apt-get install ssh-server?
[05:01] <sygnatech> soundray i'm new here, thanks for the advice!
[05:01] <soundray> h0vding: give us the URL please
[05:01] <h0vding> http://instantfundas.blogspot.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[05:01] <soundray> sygnatech: any time
[05:01] <h0vding> scroll down abit untill you see "from terminal enter theese commands"
[05:02] <sygnatech> nevermind guys, i figured it out.  guess it took coming here to fix it :)  thanks anyway.  later
[05:02] <iarwain1> Hiya, does anyone know where ssh keeps my log files?
[05:02] <sslashes> how can i remove macbook fn key mapping in gnome (i am using pommed instead)?
[05:02] <soundray> h0vding: interesting, wonder if that will work. Anyway, they assume that the iso is in the present working directory. So if you've downloaded the iso to your desktop, for example, you would do a 'cd /home/h0vding/Desktop' before anything else.
[05:02] <Juancabrito> bulmer: What do you mean? I've followed this guide:  http://www.mysql-apache-php.com/
[05:03] <bulmer> Juancabrito: does it have any instructions on how to test things?
[05:03] <h0vding> aaah kk. Il give it a shoot.. u will see me here tomorrow if it worked :p or else dont try it :P
[05:03] <soundray> sslashes: System-Preferences-Keyboard shortcuts
[05:03] <Juancabrito> bulmer: It mentions the directories you said this way: /etc/init.d/postfix restart
[05:04] <Juancabrito>   /etc/init.d/postfix stop
[05:04] <Juancabrito>   /etc/init.d/postfix start
[05:04] <bulmer> Juancabrito: thats for email stuff, is that what you want installed?
[05:05] <Juancabrito> bulmer: couldn't you help me out with some commands to test?  I want a server to test php with mysql
[05:05] <bulmer> Juancabrito: did you ever check /etc/init.d/  directory for new things installed?
[05:07] <bonzai> b0nza1
[05:08] <Juancabrito> bulmer: what should i look in there?
[05:08] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What is the English name of the followeing menu item: Gnome NetworkManager applet (left-click) > Manual configuration > network settings > links >  wire link > 'Roaming-mode activated'?
[05:08] <Juancabrito> bulmer: there's a lot of stuff
[05:09] <bulmer> Juancabrito let me ask you, why do you even want to install LAMP? do you have an inkling what it supposed to do?
[05:09] <FurryNemesis> 's all gone quiet in here. Is everyone saving themselves for the Gutsy rush?
[05:09] <Kurosaki_Ichigo> ubuntu is messing up my wireless broadcom adapter in my other operating systems.  any idea how to fix this?
[05:09] <bulmer> :)
[05:09] <melqui>  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[05:10] <soundray> FurryNemesis: we'll get 1700 people in here. Thinking about taking bets :)
[05:10] <Anomynous> Is there some utility to adjust displays contrast?
[05:10] <bulmer> Juancabrito: btw, the AMP part can be applied to windows also, the L is for linux off course
[05:11] <soundray> Anomynous: very few hardware configurations support that.
[05:11] <Juancabrito> bulmer: I want to test pages and development in php by now, but I also want to learn how to set up the server using linux
[05:11] <FurryNemesis> soundray, I bet you 1 internet that it'll be more than that
[05:12] <Anomynous> okay, thanks, soundray
[05:12] <leku> how do I setup key bindings to switch workspaces in gnome?
[05:12] <yoopernate2004> quick really dumb question: if i'm running a wired computer does that slow down wireless internet on a router?
[05:12] <leku> i'm cramping up hitting ctrl-alt arrow
[05:12] <bulmer> Juancabrito: okay, now, do you know a lil bit of what a client and what a server is?
[05:13] <soundray> leku: System-Preferences-Keyboard shortcuts
[05:13] <leku> thx
[05:13] <bulmer> yoopernate2004: nope
[05:13] <yoopernate2004> i didn' think so but my neighbor who is running the network is an idiot
[05:13] <sslashes> soundray: that allows me to remove the volume controls, but nowhere can i find keyboard or lcd backlight
[05:13] <Juancabrito> bulmer: yes, the basics
[05:13] <Stevethepirate> Sighs... Xserver crashed again....
[05:13] <leku> how do I add a new shortcut? i see switch to workspace 1 and 2, but I have 4 workspaces?
[05:13] <Stevethepirate> won't start up.
[05:14] <Stevethepirate> leku: Ctrl-Left
[05:14] <Stevethepirate> and Ctrl-Right
[05:14] <bulmer> Juancabrito: okay, so you need a client to test and connect to a server right? how do you check if server is running the services?
[05:14] <soundray> sslashes: for backlight support, you need a driver.
[05:14] <leku> steve: that makes no sense
[05:14] <bulmer> yoopernate2004: you're leeching off of your neighbor? :)
[05:14] <Stevethepirate> press those buttons.. should switch between desktops
[05:14] <leku> dude
[05:15] <leku> that wasn't my question
[05:15] <leku> i alreadyk now how to do that
[05:15] <leku> it is not ergonomic
[05:15] <leku> so i wanna define my own
[05:15] <winge-d_angel> how do i check what shared libs a certain binary file depends on?
[05:15] <leku> i want to have alt-1<>4 for my workspaces
[05:15] <leku> but i only have the option to edit shortcuts to switch to workspace 1 &2, but i have 4 workspaces
[05:15] <Stevethepirate> oO
[05:15] <bulmer> winge-d_angel: i think its nm or ldd  try to man those two command and see what it tells you
[05:16] <sslashes> soundray: backlight support just *worked* with gusty - and i now want it *not* to work so i can use pommed
[05:16] <LM2> anyone know what kernel gutsy is going to use?
[05:16] <LM2> the new 2.6.23?
[05:17] <DoYouKnow> .22
[05:17] <soundray> sslashes: don't know. Have you checked the installation reports linked on tuxmobil.org
[05:17] <Juancabrito> bulmer: to make that easy I've installed XAMPP, but in its main control panel mySQL appears as not activated... also I don't know how to upload to this server from a windows client
[05:17] <LM2> :C
[05:17] <sslashes> soundray: no, i'll give it a look thouigh
[05:18] <LM2> darn.. I was hoping CFS would make it in
[05:18] <LM2> :C
[05:18] <soundray> leku: configure it via gconf-editor - /apps/metacity/global_keybindings
[05:18] <musashi> is there any way to disable ubuntu from checking for certain hardware? it is messing up my wireless card in my other operating systems every time i boot ubuntu
[05:19] <bulmer> Juancabrito: read some more on that tutorial, there sure be some procedures how to test if things are running or not
[05:19] <soundray> LM2: 23 was released last week or so. That would have hardly left time to test it with gutsy...
[05:19] <skannan> how do I disable an app from starting up when I logon ?
[05:19] <Esteth> how can i tell gnome to never populate my "recent documents" list?
[05:19] <soundray> musashi: do you want to disable that hardware in ubuntu?
[05:20] <musashi> soundray, if that would stop it from ever checking for it on bootup, then yes
[05:20] <skannan> I had configured it startup using sessions, but even after disabling/deleteing the app still starts up
[05:20] <LM2> I really think a rolling release system would make more sense but thats just me...
[05:20] <Juancabrito> bulmer: I think I'm not so smart to help myself with tutorials, that's why I came here in the first place
[05:21] <soundray> musashi: I'm not sure what you mean by "checking for", but I would try blacklisting the module that drives the device:
[05:21] <bulmer> Juancabrito: give yourself more credit, you can do it
[05:21] <soundray> !blacklist > musashi, please read ubotu's private message
[05:21] <MrEgg964> hi all, I'm looking for an ipsec vpn client on ubuntu. Any suggestions ?
[05:21] <mc44> LM2: you could use debian unstable if you want rolling ;)
[05:21] <bulmer> Juancabrito: haft to be patient though and persistent
[05:21] <musashi> was just about to ask that
[05:21] <LM2> ya but I like ubuntu's support community and forums enough to make me stick with it :P
[05:22] <LM2> plus I can get a few new debs for things of getdeb.net
[05:22] <musashi> soundray, the problem is, when i boot ubuntu, everything is fine.  i dont have a driver for my wireless card in linux so i dont wrry about it
[05:23] <Juancabrito> bulmer: do you think is better if I reinstall ubuntu? using the normal vesion this time, not the server, and try to install everything from a tutorial ??
[05:23] <musashi> soundray, but when i load my other operating systems after having booted ubuntu, the broadcom wireless LAN is completely gone
[05:23] <bulmer> Juancabrito, maybe, i have installed mine many times, learned mistakes along the way.. :)
[05:24] <hagna> how do I know what version of glibc I'm running?  Also where does apt-get put the source tarballs?
[05:24] <WaltzingAlong> Juancabrito: take it slow. learn what you are doing. set out to do something, understand the steps you are taking as you take them.
[05:24] <WaltzingAlong> Juancabrito: the sudo doitall4me is broken :D
[05:24] <amishninja> Anyone know how to use apt-get to install php4 or if it is even possible? I need it in order to test run a site on my localhost.
[05:25] <soundray> Esteth: try 'chmod a-w ~/.recently-used'
[05:25] <WaltzingAlong> amishninja: yes it is possible
[05:25] <amishninja> Awesome
[05:25] <amishninja> Because I've been having trouble - mutliverse and universe are enabled in sources.list, but I understand that php4 is no longer supported.
[05:26] <amishninja> or won't be veyr soon.
[05:26] <bulmer> Juancabrito: learn an application at a time, so you get the feel of the inter-actions
[05:26] <WaltzingAlong> amishninja: refering to gutsy? ah that is a different story
[05:26] <h0vding> what is wronge when I get Permission Denied when using command "cp"
[05:26] <amishninja> Huh? Oh, I'm on Feisty.
[05:26] <yoopernate2004> you need to sudo the cp command
[05:26] <WaltzingAlong> amishninja: otherwise with feisty to get it working with apache, sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php4
[05:26] <Esteth> soundray: hasn't helped :(
[05:26] <bulmer> h0vding: no permission
[05:26] <soundray> h0vding: you don't have write permission to the target. Use sudo
[05:26] <kitche> h0vding: you don't have permissions to cp the file to where your copying it to
[05:26] <soundray> Esteth: in what sense?
[05:26] <amishninja> aptitude, eh? alright, I'll give it a shot.
[05:26] <Esteth> soundray: Nothing has chaned
[05:26] <WaltzingAlong> amishninja: or apt-get
[05:27] <Esteth> s/chaned/changed
[05:27] <h0vding> wow I gotto be dumb since I got so many answers on that :p
[05:27] <amishninja> Waltz: I actually tried using apt-get already, and php4 is no longer supported by it.
[05:27] <amishninja> Waltz: So I'm trying to figure out a workaround.
[05:27] <yoopernate2004> hovding: its one of the first things you come across
[05:27] <soundray> Esteth: what do you get when you do a 'ls -l ~/.recently-used'?
[05:27] <h0vding> hehe ya I know
[05:28] <Esteth> soundray: -r-------- 1 esteth esteth 80327 2007-10-06 11:26 /home/esteth/.recently-used
[05:28] <h0vding> just never knew what sudo does but now I know :p
[05:28] <yoopernate2004> you know your in trouble when sudo doesn't work hehe
[05:28] <szachista> amishninja: apt-cache search php4
[05:28] <WaltzingAlong> amishninja: aptitude search php4
[05:28] <szachista> amishninja: it still should  be in official repos
[05:28] <MartinW> My computer was struck by lighting and I had to replace almost everything except the hard drive. Now Ubuntu 7.04 won't start X. It gives an error (No screens found) and goes into the terminal. How do I reconfigure it to recognize my new hardware?
[05:28] <WaltzingAlong> szachista: amishninja yes seems to be in feisty but not gutsy
[05:29] <Juancabrito> bulmer: do you know the difference with the ubuntu normal version and the server one?  I've downloaded the second one thinkig it will be with everything there ready
[05:29] <WaltzingAlong> MartinW: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:29] <szachista> marko-_-: of course it gives errors if you have changed you video card
[05:29] <szachista> i mean MartinW^
[05:29] <amishninja> Hmm... because I did a google and it said feisty no longer supports php4, and php4 in general will be support-less by the end of the year. I did actually do an apt-cache search php and only saw php5*.
[05:29] <MartinW> thanks
[05:29] <gsb> amishninja:  is there a reason why you need php4 instead of 5?
[05:29] <szachista> MartinW: maybe dpkg --reconfigure xserver
[05:29] <MartinW> I konw I just don't know how to reconfigure it.
[05:29] <bulmer> Juancabrito: i do not know all the little differences between the two
[05:29] <yoopernate2004> has anyone here gotten second life to work?
[05:29] <WaltzingAlong> yes
[05:30] <WaltzingAlong> !info libapache2-mod-php4
[05:30] <ubotu> Package libapache2-mod-php4 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:30] <h0vding> most of us does
[05:30] <WaltzingAlong> doh!
[05:30] <amishninja> Yes, I'm developing for a site written in php4 and I need to be able to test it locally on that version...
[05:30] <gsb> MartinW: at the command line type sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-zorg
[05:30] <szachista> yoopernate2004: second life is gay
[05:30] <buddy> my friend recently switched over to ubuntu and is having some trouble with cg814wg v2 router/modem he has. Where would I find firmware for such a device?
[05:30] <GG-ChuckNoris0> irc.quakenet.org
[05:30] <szachista> yoopernate2004: no godmode, no shutgun :(
[05:30] <brobostigon> no, it doesnt work for me at all, evethough i would love to use seconf life.
[05:30] <gsb> amishninja:  it is possible you may need to download php4 from the php site and compile it.
[05:31] <yoopernate2004> szachista: ah you say that now
[05:31] <MartinW> BEcause Ubuntu doesn't work I'm using my windows computer. I understand now why i switched.
[05:31] <amishninja> gsb: yeah, you're probably right, but I hate having to do that since it's a pain and installers tend to handle dependencies rather well :)
[05:31] <musashi> soundray, i dont have anything in that file specified. is it supposed to be empty?
[05:31] <gsb> amishninja:  I know what you mean, I hate compiling :)
[05:31] <WaltzingAlong> MartinW: ok
[05:31] <soundray> musashi: yes
[05:31] <buddy> MartinW: what graphics card you using? have you tried xubuntu or wubi?
[05:31] <bulmer> MartinW: yeah but you know the grass is greener on the other side, and you know you want to be on the other side
[05:31] <gsb> MartinW:  You can't get to a command line on your ubuntu machine?
[05:32] <sciboy> I wanted to restart wine from scratch, so I ran rm -Rf .wine/ unfortunately the menu items in the Applications menu are still there, how can I clear that as well?
[05:32] <soundray> musashi: unless you've blacklisted something before
[05:32] <musashi> soundray, it says add it has <<blacklist modulename>>
[05:32] <Stevethepirate> sighs
[05:32] <Stevethepirate> sighs
[05:32] <amishninja> I wouldn't mind learning how to actually do it well, but it seems so time-consuming, and why bother doing it if package installers can take care of the overhead
[05:32] <buddy> sciboy: uninstall wine the way you installed it
[05:32] <musashi> soundray, do i use the two '<'s or just blacklist module name
[05:33] <kitche> sciboy: just delete them but rm -rf .wine doesn't do a lot besides removing all your config files and programs
[05:33] <gsb> The only time I ever compile is when the repositories don't have it or it's out of date.  But then again, I work with FreeBSD a lot and thats all compiling from the ports.
[05:33] <amishninja> ah
[05:33] <soundray> musashi: have you found out what module name to blacklist?
[05:33] <musashi> soundray, i also just noticed when i boot ubuntu it says i have a BIOS bug or something to that efect
[05:33] <sciboy> Which is what I wanted to do, but the gnome Applications menu still has the programs I've installed listed.
[05:33] <musashi> soundray, where would i find that at?
[05:34] <sciboy> I've had trouble with this before with properly uninstalled applications, if would be nice to know how to remove it.
[05:34] <amishninja> any tips on how to start with compiling? I actually am a huge noob when it comes to compiling software in linux (kinda new to linux in general but I know basics like where config files are and how to do some admin stuff etc)
[05:34] <soundray> musashi: forget it, I think we're on the wrong track.
[05:34] <Stevethepirate> I'm having X server problems... heres some pics, perhaps someone can hlep
[05:34] <sciboy> kitche, Delete them where?
[05:34] <soundray> musashi: when you reboot into "other OS", does it *always* fail on the wireless, or only if you warm-reboot?
[05:34] <Stevethepirate> http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7875/screenshot1gf1.png
[05:34] <Stevethepirate> http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7079/screenshot2sd9.png
[05:35] <h0vding> bah whats the command to delete a file ?
[05:35] <Stevethepirate> http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6469/screenshot3wf9.png
[05:35] <soundray> h0vding: rm
[05:35] <geefinator> H0viding: rm
[05:35] <h0vding> hehe kk thanks
[05:35] <soundray> !cli > h0vding
[05:35] <ukdsl> hmmz, ive got 2 x rt8139 nics in a machine. dmesg | grep 8139 tells me: identified 8139 chip type RTL-8139C, try the 8139too driver instead :/
[05:35] <kitche> !pastebin | Stevethepirate that might be considered spam to some
[05:35] <ubotu> Stevethepirate that might be considered spam to some: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:35] <musashi> soundray, if i have booted into ubuntu, the wireless lan will be gone.  it will reinstal itself after a while( a few restarts), but then once i boot into ubuntu again, it will dissapear again.
[05:35] <ukdsl> lshw -C network shows them both as disabled :S
[05:35] <Stevethepirate> kitche: its < 3 lines of urls.
[05:35] <Stevethepirate> So. GTFO.
[05:35] <Stevethepirate> :P
[05:36] <moppit> amishninja :  command lines for compiling..  1st Compile Program.c  --> that will make a .mak file then make program.mak
[05:36] <amishninja> geef, any tips on learning to compile programs? should I just google it and hope for the best or do you have a specific reference that you like to use?
[05:36] <moppit> amishninja : be ready for missing dependencies that you will have to manually get and install until you have all the dependencies satisfied and your make program.mak works
[05:36] <kitche> !gtfo > Stevethepirate but anyways I don't have a gui to even look at your links right now
[05:36] <mc44> !gtfo | Stevethepirate
[05:36] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:36] <geefinator> amishninja:  Well I learned from FreeBSD which is a bit different than ubuntu, but close to the same.  Let me see if I can find you some references.
[05:37] <Stevethepirate> Luls.
[05:37] <amishninja> moppit: what about using Dpkg to install some of it?
[05:37] <Stevethepirate> Please stop shouting at me, and rather help.. please.
[05:37] <amishninja> geef: thanks bro
[05:37] <Stevethepirate> Sighs
[05:37] <Stevethepirate> brb.. supper
[05:37] <sciboy> I find it rather difficult to shout with text.
[05:37] <amishninja> CAPS LOCK IS YELLING
[05:38] <amishninja> :-p
[05:38] <musashi> lolo
[05:38] <IrrsiNewbie> hello
[05:38] <h0vding> talk about beeing bored :p
[05:38] <sciboy> I thought it was emphasis?
[05:38] <brobostigon> caos lock is also shouting.
[05:38] <soundray> sciboy: no, *this* is emphasis
[05:38] <NixMan> what is the package that i can install to compile stuff? the dependenncy for compiling...
[05:38] <sciboy> What about _this_ then?
[05:38] <amishninja> nope, caps lock is always yelling. fact of life.
[05:38] <musashi> soundray, should i just forget about using? i cant figure out why it would disable my wireless in other OSs
[05:38] <musashi> using ubuntu*
[05:38] <moppit> amishninja dpkg works a lot better for handling dependencies, I use it when I can.. But if your forced to compile manually, on the make stage it will give errors for missing dependency packages..
[05:39] <moppit> amishninja: and for compiling you want gcc
[05:39] <moppit> or a variant c compiler
[05:39] <soundray> musashi: sorry, I can't explain it either. Normally, the kind of probing that ubuntu does should not disturb a device.
[05:39] <geefinator> amishninja:well actually just do a sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:39] <joshua--> hello, anyone here have any experience with getting wireless usb adapters to work, on ubuntu, on a computer that does not have a wireless chip ?
[05:39] <amishninja> moppit: ugh, really? so it's best to just do it all myself using... whatever commands that I have to use in order to do it? hold on... *scrolls up*
[05:39] <amishninja> geef: what's that?
[05:40] <soundray> musashi: perhaps there's a kernel boot option that will prevent the probe. How is your wireless device connected?
[05:40] <mc44> joshua--: what chipset is it?
[05:40] <moppit> amishninja : No it's best to do sudo apt-get install program
[05:40] <geefinator> amishninja:  it installs most of the dependencies needed for compiling.
[05:40] <musashi> soundray, its internal, came with the laptop
[05:40] <gorski> i installed apache2. Why i do not have a httpd in /usr/sbin?
[05:40] <joshua--> mc44: there is no wireless chipset .. it is a netgear usb wireless adapter.
[05:40] <soundray> musashi: then it's miniPCI. Can you do a 'lspci' and just paste the line that refers to the device pls
[05:40] <amishninja> moppit: right I know, but the package I want to install (php4 and all the stuff that goes with it for LAMP, as well as gd for images) is unsupported by apt-get
[05:40] <geefinator> moppit:  I am just letting him know that instead of installing all the programs from scratch he can do build-essential to get most of what he needs.
[05:41] <musashi> k
[05:41] <mc44> joshua--: yeah I meant on the wireless adaptor...
[05:41] <joshua--> oh sorry.
[05:41] <geefinator> for compiling that is.
[05:41] <mc44> joshua--: what model? what does lsusb say?
[05:41] <livingdaylight> can i ask a question about gutsy gypsie?
[05:41] <DoYouKnow> how do I disable this: When I open up firefox, then spawn a new window, I can close the child process and it will terminate the parent
[05:41] <MartinW> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but now I get an error message saying that my screens configuration isn't workable.
[05:41] <moppit> moppit: cool cool. get the essential with apt-get and once you have the dependencies, go ahead and compile the php4 source
[05:41] <joshua--> mc44: it is a netgear WG111v3.
[05:41] <moppit> should save a lot of trouble
[05:42] <musashi> soundray, uhhh i only see alot of nVidia stuff, nothing from broadcom
[05:42] <Noemie> `Naya
[05:42] <Noemie> ^^
[05:42] <`Naya> Noemie
[05:42] <Noemie> :)
[05:42] <Noemie> a parle pas en franais ici XD
[05:42] <Lunz> hello
[05:42] <livingdaylight> anyone?
[05:42] <brickbat> hi
[05:42] <amishninja> moppit: oh, so I can install mysql, apache2, phpmyadmin by itself and then put php4 on top of that? I should also mention that I have a php5/apache2/mysql5/phpmyadmin installation already from apt-get. I want to be able to use both php4 and php5 in separate branches.
[05:43] <`Naya> noemie
[05:43] <Noemie> oui `Naya ?
[05:43] <brobostigon> i have a netgear wg1111 v2, and it does work but after boot i have to disconnect it and then plug it back in, and then restart networking to get it working.
[05:43] <`Naya> tu es nono ?
[05:43] <moppit> amishninja : That I have no clue.. might be a problem with the .php suffix and which program it's using when your apache opens a php file...
[05:43] <Noemie> oui `Naya
[05:43] <soundray> musashi: sorry, I think this one is beyond me
[05:44] <`Naya> Ok
[05:44] <Noemie> ici nono est rserv je peux pas l'utiliser
[05:44] <Lunz> tom_:are you still here?
[05:44] <hhp2k> Wheee, my Ubuntu CD's came! =D
[05:44] <`Naya> Ok
[05:44] <geefinator> amishninja:  I have never personally had two installations of php on the same box, so I am not sure if you will run into some errors.  I would say the chance of it is likely though.
[05:44] <moppit> amishninja: Cause doesn't php work, that when apache opens a php file, it points to the php location to parse the file in question.,, That sounds like it might be a configuration nightmare, not to let ya try and stop
[05:44] <musashi> soundray, i appreciate the help, perhaps this is a known problem, i will search google or something.  i only came here first out of habit.
[05:44] <joshua--> mc44: lsusb finds it Buss 004 Device 002: ID 0846:4260 NetGear,Inc.
[05:44] <Noemie> `Naya tape /join #jamzine
[05:44] <amishninja> moppit: well, I guess it may be best to compile everything manually then, because I could put a separate apache installation in with the php4 and have it be independent of what I already have installed
[05:44] <soundray> musashi: have a look on launchpad as well, and consider reporting it there.
[05:45] <`Naya> Y'a le droit  la pub
[05:45] <SNy> Hey guys. If I install 7.10 beta now, will the final be an update or an upgrade?
[05:45] <soundray> !bugs | musashi
[05:45] <ubotu> musashi: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:45] <moppit> amishninja:What I would recommend for testing something locally for a project.. put together a computer out of spare parts and just install a light linux and only php4 and apache... 2 php's may be.. interesting
[05:45] <steve1> Hello
[05:45] <brobostigon> mines a netgear wg1111 v2, but it does work,
[05:45] <magnetron> !fr | `Naya
[05:45] <ubotu> `Naya: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:45] <joshua--> brobostigon: what did you use to set it up?
[05:45] <novato_br> how can I get gtk version on my ubuntu 7.04 ?
[05:45] <geefinator> amish and moppit:  I would guess that you could do that if you loaded the php 4 module in apache instead of the php5 module.
[05:45] <`Naya> Merci
[05:45] <geefinator> but thats just a guess.
[05:45] <`Naya> Moi Anglais
[05:45] <livingdaylight> livingdaylight is wondering whether the login music to Ubuntu will be different in gutsy gypsie... me thinks those bongs are starting to wear thin
[05:45] <`Naya> C'est la cats
[05:45] <Noemie> lol
[05:46] <mc44> joshua--: have you tried using ndiswrapper?
[05:46] <moppit> geefinator: Is there a config file where you can change php5 to php4?
[05:46] <Noemie> t'essaye de leur parler `Naya ?
[05:46] <amishninja> moppit: you think two PHPs will be a problem even if I install it in some way that they're separate from one another? like two copies of each of their dependent parts? just have one be /etc/php4 and the other be /etc/php5 or something?
[05:46] <joshua--> mc44: yeah, i downloaded it, but i dont know how to use it. :/
[05:46] <geefinator> moppit: well you specify what modules to load in httpd.conf
[05:46] <PhenGy> how to use WINSCP connect to Ubuntu?  Must install what SSH server module on Ubuntu
[05:46] <brobostigon> connect it whillst ubuntu is booting, setup your wireless in the interfaces file, disconnect it and then recconnect it, and then restart networking.
[05:46] <amishninja> geef: that's true.
[05:46] <mc44> joshua--: do "ndiswrapper -l" in a terminal
[05:47] <soundray> PhenGy: 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[05:47] <novato_br> how can I get gtk version on my ubuntu 7.04 ?
[05:47] <moppit> good enough then.. Thanks for that next step geefinator.. I have a tendency for doing things in the hardest ways possible :)
[05:47] <steve1> Hey guys for some reason my browser doesn't work on ubuntu 6.06. As you can see i am connected to the internet can anyone else?
[05:47] <geefinator> amish and moppit:  so i am assuming you can specify php4 instead of 5 :)
[05:47] <novato_br> what is the line command to know about that?
[05:47] <geefinator> moppit:  No problem.  I am the same way sometimes.
[05:47] <MartinW> My computer was struck by lighting and I had to replace almost everything except the hard drive. Now Ubuntu 7.04 won't start X. It gives an error (No screens found) and goes into the terminal. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but I got some of the settings wrong and it now says my screen configuration isn't working. Is there an auto-detect somewhere?
[05:47] <joshua--> mc44: is that ndiswrapper -one? or l ?
[05:47] <amishninja> So basically I could get away with installing php4 and 5 and have them both using the same apache/mysql/phpmyadmin or what have you, and it would just be a simple matter of changing something in httpd.conf?
[05:48] <joshua--> brobostigon: okay, i will try that now.
[05:48] <soundray> novato_br: 'dpkg -l libgtk1.2 ; dpkg -l libgtk2*'
[05:48] <geefinator> amish:  yeah,  in theory I would think that would work.  But I have never tried it.
[05:48] <mythri1> For some reason or another my scroll wheel stopped functioning, but the ZAxisMapping is set up properly (as far as I can tell), is there something else I need to make sure is set up right?
[05:48] <brobostigon> that worked for me, it worth trying.
[05:48] <novato_br> thx, soundray
[05:48] <Noemie> hellooo :)
[05:48] <musashi> soundray, thanks ill try that. hope i can fix this problem, id love to give ubuntu a chance
[05:48] <moppit> geefinator:checking on httpd.conf right now.. have php5 and apache.. looking at config file
[05:48] <joshua--> mc44: ndiswrapper -l returns nothing.
[05:48] <steve1> Anyone here that could give me a hand?
[05:49] <joshua--> someone told me i need to get 'windows drivers' ?
[05:49] <amishninja> geef: fair enough. do you have any idea how to go about setting up php4 manually so that it *does* use everything else I have installed as its dependencies?
[05:49] <joshua--> but i couldnt figure out where to find them at.
[05:49] <mc44> joshua--: ndiswrapper -h
[05:49] <PhenGy> what compiler module to install if want to compile  Eggdrop again ?
[05:49] <Lunz> !ndiswrapper
[05:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:49] <`Naya> Thank you for living rooms in Frenchman Car I am void in English :)
[05:49] <joshua--> -h does nothing, dont think its a vaild argument.
[05:49] <PhenGy> uncompile
[05:49] <mc44> joshua--: should show whether ndiswrapper is installed properly if you get the help insturctions
[05:50] <geefinator> amish:  Well I would imagine you set it up just like you would php5,  usually the configure will have a help option that shows you all the flags you can specify when configuring/making the software.
[05:50] <soundray> mythri1: there should be a line Option         "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" or Option         "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
[05:50] <mc44> joshua--: just run "ndiswrapper"
[05:50] <geefinator> amish:  you know ./configure --with-apxs2(thats apache) --with-whatever... etc.
[05:50] <moppit> amishninja: the dependencies for 4 and 5 should be almost the same.. try getting gcc and comiling and making the source right now.. should at least set it up in a directory... make sure it doesn't overwrite the php5 directory :)
[05:50] <moppit> +
[05:50] <novato_br> soundray, here it's shows:  ii  libgtk2.0-0    2.10.11-0ubunt
[05:50] <Hornet> Could someone please lend me a hand getting my display back into XGL / AIGLX mode?  I've tried all the various how-tos available and none do the trick.
[05:50] <mythri1> soundray: I see the ImPS/2 one
[05:50] <novato_br> Soth, here is 2.10.11???
[05:50] <amishninja> geef: okay. say, this is a random stab in the dark as well but would there be some way to add a respository to sources.list so that it actually does try to install php4 automatically for me via apt-get?
[05:50] <novato_br> soundray, here is 2.10.11?
[05:51] <amishninja> moppit: sure!
[05:51] <soundray> mythri1: has it stopped in all applications?
[05:51] <geefinator> amishninja:  Unfortunately I have no clue.
[05:51] <soundray> novato_br: same here
[05:51] <mythri1> soundray: so far, firefox, gaim, gedit
[05:51] <novato_br> i need to version 2.10.13
[05:51] <amishninja> geef and mop: alright, so I download the php4 tarball and do what exactly? gcc it somehow you say?
[05:51] <novato_br> to run the gimp, soundray
[05:51] <geefinator> amishninja:  whenever I compile php here at work for my webservers I just make sure to specify everything I want it to use when I configure it.
[05:51] <novato_br> how can i get install the new GTK?
[05:51] <joshua--> mc44: yeah, that does nothing, the program just runs and then stops because i am give it no arguments.
[05:52] <geefinator> amishninja:  Untar and unzip it.  tar xzf filename
[05:52] <soundray> novato_br: no, just install the gimp from the repository. It doesn't have any dependencies that aren't in feisty already.
[05:52] <amishninja> geef: kk.
[05:52] <geefinator> amishninja:  then navigate to the directory it creates.
[05:52] <soundray> novato_br: if you need a newer gimp, upgrade to gutsy-beta.
[05:52] <mc44> joshua--: you're sure its actually installed? :) ndiswrapper should return the help page
[05:52] <geefinator> amishninja:  should be close to the name of the tar file.
[05:52] <novato_br> soundray, you don't understand me, man! I like the new versions programs
[05:52] <novato_br> and i want the new gimp
[05:52] <novato_br> heehehe
[05:52] <soundray> novato_br: I do understand you. Install gutsy-beta.
[05:53] <joshua--> mc44: yeah, it returns the hep page.
[05:53] <novato_br> i know that software are instable, but this is not problem for me
[05:53] <joshua--> help
[05:53] <joshua--> sorry, i couldnt find the right words for it. :P
[05:53] <novato_br> i'd like, soundray
[05:53] <geefinator> amishninja:  then there should be a readme in there, I would take a look at that.
[05:53] <amishninja> geef: will do. thank you sir
[05:53] <novato_br> but my internet is very slow to dowload the gutsy now
[05:53] <Noemie> I'm french and I don't understand what you say !!
[05:53] <novato_br> i'll take on next time
[05:53] <soundray> novato_br: generally, ubuntu is tuned towards stability. If you don't care about that, run Debian Sid.
[05:53] <geefinator> amishninja:  you are welcome :)
[05:53] <mythri1> soundray: any other ideas (scrolll wheel thing)?
[05:54] <novato_br> hehee, soundray
[05:54] <soundray> mythri1: has it just failed in this session, or have you rebooted since?
[05:54] <mc44> joshua--: ok then you need to get the windows drivers for the wireless adaptor and find the .inf file
[05:54] <mythri1> soundray: rebooted twice
[05:54] <novato_br> soundray, so cannot I install the gtk lib ?
[05:55] <soundray> mythri1: anything suspicios in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Look for lines that start with EE
[05:55] <amishninja> Aaaaahhh! There's like 10 README files...
[05:55] <tyler_d> how do I switch from an 64 bit install to an i386 install?
[05:55] <soundray> novato_br: you can do anything, but it's not recommended.
[05:55] <ShadowWork> I have some security updates on my machine for mysql but everytime I try to update I get "(Reading database ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault" what does it mean and how can I fix it?
[05:55] <soundray> tyler_d: you have to reinstall. All the binaries are different.
[05:55] <geefinator> amishninja:  Give me a second to grab the tarball and I will do it myself so I can walk you through it
[05:55] <amishninja> kk
[05:55] <tyler_d> soundray: ok then.. ty
[05:56] <amishninja> give me a second to get some caffeine
[05:56] <amishninja> brb
[05:56] <novato_br> heehe, soundray
[05:56] <soundray> tyler_d: alternatively, run a 32bit chroot
[05:56] <novato_br> i want it, soundray
[05:56] <novato_br> wish good lock for me
[05:56] <dan_l> Hey, can somebody take a look at a laptop spec sheet and confirm that ubuntu will run on it with me.  It's not listed on the laptop tests, but I'd just like to see if there are any red flags withsomebody in the know.
[05:57] <mythri1> soundray: only stuff about my wacom tablet (which hasn't been attached for nearly 6 months)
[05:57] <marko-_-> i wanna play a game so.. are there any cool games for linux like first shooter games or someting like that with a cool storyline ?
[05:57] <steve1> what would i run executable text files with?
[05:57] <soundray> dan_l: go to tuxmobil.org and see if there are any installation reports for your model.
[05:57] <geefinator> steve1:  what exactly do you mean?  what is the file extension?
[05:57] <Lunz> does anyone use irssi?
[05:57] <Lunz> !irssi
[05:57] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[05:57] <soundray> mythri1: have you tested the mouse wheel on another machine?
[05:58] <skynexus_> _Andrew: are you there?
[05:58] <mythri1> none available, but the rest of the mouse worked, and it was working yesterday
[05:58] <soundray> mythri1: so what has changed since yesterday?
[05:58] <mythri1> nothing that I am aware of
[05:58] <mythri1> only played some games since then
[05:59] <soundray> mythri1: is it a USB mouse?
[06:00] <mythri1> yes, but I am using a ps/2 adaptor
[06:00] <tyler_d> dpkg -i .."file name" --force-architecture .... ? is this the correct syntax
[06:00] <tyler_d> ?
[06:00] <geefinator> Is anyone in here intimately familiar with ncpfs?
[06:01] <soundray> mythri1: any chance you can plug it into a USB port?
[06:01] <ShadowWork> I have some security updates on my machine for mysql but everytime I try to update I get "(Reading database ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault" what does it mean and how can I fix it?
[06:01] <dan_l> Soundray:  It's not listed.  But does that necessarily mean I can't run ubuntu on it?
[06:01] <mythri1> soundray: no difference
[06:01] <soundray> dan_l: no, it doesn't
[06:01] <mythri1> I'll reboot and see if that helps
[06:01] <frojnd> if I wanna delete all files but *example.avi in the direcotry I am. How can I remove em *
[06:02] <soundray> mythri1: also, run a 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and watch while you unplug and replug. Any errors logged?
[06:02] <PirateLeChuck> why can i no longer install xchat on ubuntu?
[06:02] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  thats a good question since I am using it right now on ubuntu...
[06:02] <PirateLeChuck> i do an apt-cache search xchat
[06:02] <PirateLeChuck> nothng found
[06:03] <steve1> hey i just opened up the terminal, how do i navigate to a folder on the desktop?
[06:03] <mc44> steve1: cd ~/Desktop/
[06:03] <soundray> steve1: cd Desktop/yourfolder
[06:03] <PirateLeChuck> i try and install it via the add/remove tool in X and it informs me that my distribution has chosen not to support it or somesuch...
[06:03] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  Do you have have all the repositories enabled?
[06:03] <steve1> thx
[06:03] <PirateLeChuck> geefinator - i couldn't confirm that either way
[06:04] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  are you using gnome?
[06:04] <PirateLeChuck> geefinator, i am using gnome yes, has xchat fallen out with gnome?
[06:04] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck: Nope, just need to know how to get you to the software source selection.
[06:04] <PirateLeChuck> muhuhu!
[06:05] <Pici> PirateLeChuck: System>Preferences>Software sources
[06:05] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  Click Applications -> Settings -> Software Sources (If i remember correctly, I run xfce and its different)
[06:05] <soundray> frojnd: 'mv example.avi .. ; rm * ; mv ../example.avi .' It's very fast, as mv only changes dir entries - doesn't actually touch the file.
[06:05] <Pici> PirateLeChuck: Also, Look behind you! Its a three-headed-monkey
[06:05] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  Pici got it right :)
[06:05] <Wips> I'm having problems viewing my ubuntu's shared files on the windows laptop and vice versa. They are able to ping eachother and I can browse the windows laptop's shared folders with  the "smbclient -L hostname"-command
[06:06] <steve1> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Adobe Flash Player installer - Whats that?
[06:06] <geefinator> Wips:  Did you format the shared partition as Fat32?
[06:06] <Lounge> can you plug a digital camera into ubuntu without any problems?
[06:06] <PirateLeChuck> Pici, geefinator, arrrrgh me hearties i be sorting the wee xchat problem out right now!
[06:06] <Wips> geefinator, Shared Partition?
[06:06] <soundray> Lounge: sure. Do you also expect it to work :)
[06:06] <Wips> geefinator, There's no shared partition, only folders
[06:07] <geefinator> Wips:  ah ok, gotcha.  sorry :P
[06:07] <PirateLeChuck> geefinator, it is cool, i only just installed ubuntu and it hadn't picked up all the repositories
[06:07] <PirateLeChuck> if i now run apt-cache search xchat it finds it fine!
[06:07] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  Well you should be on your way to using Xchat in no time! :)
[06:07] <frojnd> soundray, what do u mean just change dir entries, so example is still somewhere ?
[06:07] <interbird> Actually it is: System->Administration->Software Sources
[06:07] <PirateLeChuck> i am off to install it, i jamp the gun a bit there, cheers for your help anyway
[06:07] <geefinator> Wips:  So the windows computer can't see the linux computer?
[06:07] <soundray> Lounge: most cameras support either PPTP or the USB mass storage protocol. Ubuntu can deal with both.
[06:08] <geefinator> PirateLeChuck:  You are welcome :)
[06:08] <Wips> geefinator, yes it can.. that's the weird part imo =P but it can't access it
[06:08] <LogicalDash> Where does SCIM keep its logs?
[06:08] <PirateLeChuck> bbiab on ubuntu AND xchat...
[06:08] <Wips> geefinator, and the ubuntu computer can't even see the workgroup in the windows network
[06:08] <geefinator> Wips:  Hmm, give me one second.
[06:09] <Scunizi> Wips you might need to install Samba or SMBFS
[06:09] <soundray> frojnd: 'mv file ..' moves the file to the parent directory. This happens without any actual data bits from the file being moved. Linux just adapts the filesystem entries. That's why it's fast.
[06:09] <Wips> Scunizi, I have samba..
[06:09] <mythri1> soundray: no difference
[06:09] <soundray> mythri1: logs?
[06:09] <zachary> Hi i'm having trouble with the partitioning step of the install.  first time with ubuntu, can someone help?  i am getting a "Cant have the end before the start error"
[06:09] <interbird> Wips: Are you using the same workgroup names ?
[06:09] <Wips> yes Interbird. Mshome
[06:09] <geefinator> Wips:  I would take a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7686, might be helpful.
[06:10] <mythri1> soundray: again only wacom errors
[06:10] <geefinator> zachary:  How are you trying to partition it?
[06:10] <PirateLeChuck> arrrgh! i be cookin' on gaaaassss now!
[06:10] <interbird> Wips: So, Mshome is listed in /etc/samba/smb.conf after the workgroup= statement ?
[06:10] <Wips> As I said the windows-laptop can see my ubuntu-computer in the same workgroup as it is in.. just can't access
[06:10] <Scunizi> zachary, are you using the "Alternate CD"?
[06:10] <soundray> mythri1: run a 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and watch while you unplug and replug. Any errors logged?
[06:10] <zachary> geefinator: first question, do i need a /boot partition?
[06:10] <Wips> yes interbird =D I made sure earlier
[06:10] <zachary> scunizi: no, liveCD
[06:10] <geefinator> zachary:  Yes, as far as I know that is needed.  Are you dual booting?
[06:11] <bruenig> you need a boot directory, whether that is on a separate partition is up to you
[06:11] <zachary> geefinator: maybe, i have another OS on a different harddrive, not a problem yet, might add it later
[06:11] <Scunizi> zachary, do you only have one drive installed? (I'm also reading geefinator's questions)
[06:11] <Warini> HI
[06:11] <geefinator> zachary:  is ubuntu going to be the only thing on the hard drive you are using?
[06:11] <zachary> Scunizi: at the moment i pulled the other two, so yes
[06:11] <Warini> how are you guys
[06:12] <zachary> geefinator: yes
[06:12] <geefinator> zachary:  Then I would just use the default setup.  Although, you may want to do custom so you can put your /home on a separate partition.
[06:12] <zachary> geefinator: i have 500GB, i want 512MB /boot, 4GB swap, 20GB /, 100GB /home, and the rest as /media
[06:12] <mythri1> soundray: nothing looks out of place in syslog
[06:12] <zachary> what does the default do?
[06:13] <geefinator> zachary:  Ok, so do the custom partitioning and set it up that way.
[06:13] <Scunizi> zachary, keep it simple.. the drive needs to be tagged as bootable.  You need a root "/" partition, /swap partition, and /home partition.  / should be between 8-15gigs, swap= 1-2 gigs and the rest home.
[06:13] <brickbat> swap should be 2x your ram memory
[06:13] <geefinator> zachary:  it just allocates for / partition and swap
[06:13] <soundray> mythri1: I suspect a hardware fault then. Some dirt blocking the optical sensor. Borrow another mouse to test, or test yours elsewhere.
[06:13] <interbird> Wips: Does dpkg --list|grep smbfs show it's installed ?
[06:13] <Scunizi> zachary, I suggest the seperation of partitions because when you upgrade later or have to reinstall, you're data will pretty much be protected.
[06:13] <geefinator> zachary:  Scunizi has it,  read their answer.
[06:13] <Warini> I had to install ubuntu on a old pc I have it as server because my new dualcore nvidia 8600 has abit wifi and i couldn't find any driver, anyone knows what can i do
[06:14] <mythri1> I have a battery operated one, I am chargin right now to test
[06:14] <zachary> right so i have 2GB ram...its a huge harddrive, i dont want such a huge /home
[06:14] <Col-Panic> Any news on the Gutsy release candidate?
[06:14] <brickbat> i am having a problem with using a mouse on a hp laptop
[06:14] <zachary> exactly...i want to segregate my data from the OS as much as possible
[06:14] <geefinator> Scunizi:  thanks, I was trying to word it properly :P
[06:14] <Intrepd> Hi, I'm trying to setup some terminals using --geometry.  is there a easy way to get the x/y/w/h besides just guess and check?  Can I move the terminal to where I want it, and then find out its geometry?
[06:14] <Scunizi> zachary, what will you do with the extra space you don't want to use for /home?
[06:14] <Wips> interbird, it lists nothing
[06:14] <Scunizi> geefinator, np
[06:14] <foxiness> Col-Panic: www.ubuntu.com
[06:15] <zachary> scunizi: mount it remotely over my lan or mount it if i boot into a different OS
[06:15] <interbird> Wips: As root: apt-get install smbfs or use synaptic
[06:15] <Col-Panic> foxi: They only mention the beta
[06:15] <soundray> Intrepd: the window size is shown while you resize. You can also use xwininfo
[06:15] <Wips> interbird, I have samba installed though.. shouldn't that be enough?
[06:15] <bruenig> Intrepd, xwininfo
[06:15] <Col-Panic> Which was already removed from the mirrors
[06:15] <interbird> Wips: smbfs is needed to connect to shares
[06:15] <Warini> I hace a PCI-E Abit AirPace Wifi, can't make it work, any help???
[06:15] <Intrepd> Sweet thanks guys
[06:15] <interbird> Wips: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[06:15] <Wips> interbird, ok, it's installed now
[06:15] <geefinator> Wips: did you look at the forum posting i sent?  You need to actually mount the drive.
[06:15] <Col-Panic> I was hoping somebody had some inside news when the RC will be deployed
[06:16] <boris__> is there any way to see which font my theme uses ?
[06:16] <interbird> Wips: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:16] <freezey> i am trying to write some perl scripts with ubuntu and i am gettin error outputs that are saying use: command not found... so and and so forth.. what package do i need for all the perl modules?
[06:16] <nasim> quit
[06:16] <bruenig> !ot | Col-Panic
[06:16] <ubotu> Col-Panic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:16] <brickbat> can i get some help please?
[06:16] <freezey> brickbat: whats ur issue i didnt see it
[06:16] <geefinator> freezey: what are you trying to do exactly?
[06:16] <zachary> so geefinator/scunuzi: my problem is that when i go to set up the "everything else" partition, i get a "ERROR!!! end cannot come before the start"
[06:16] <Wips> I looked at it geefinator, but I don't get it.. I've been able to share files on this ubuntu before, whitout having to mount etc etc
[06:16] <interbird> Wips: also check that guest ok = yes in the global settings of /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:16] <freezey> geefinator: just write a perl script using DBI to connect to my mysql db and do a few things for me
[06:16] <Scunizi> zachary, ok.. that makes sense.. like a NFS partition. That can be a good idea.. and doable.  Remember a drive can only have 4 primary partitions. With the current partitioning sceme 3 are used.  The 4th will have to be tagged as a logical volume then create partitions under that for NFS or another op system etc..
[06:17] <Col-Panic> bruenig: thx a bunch
[06:17] <brickbat> i have a hp laptop and when i plug in the mouse it doesnt work
[06:17] <freezey> what kind of mouse
[06:17] <bruenig> brickbat, have you tried starting the xserver when the mouse was already plugged in?
[06:17] <geefinator> freezey:  have you installed DBI and the DBD driver for your database?
[06:17] <Scunizi> brickbat, the mouse or the lap top? :)
[06:17] <brickbat> just a regular logitech scrollmouse
[06:17] <freezey> na thats what i was wondering what packages are those?
[06:18] <zachary> scunizi: ok.  heres what i have so far:  509MB /boot primary, 20480MB / primary, 4096 swap primary, 102396MB logical /home, and i want to add 372621MB logical /media
[06:18] <_Carlo_> hi, my postfix smtp server uses sasl for auth how can i configure mailman to authenticate?
[06:18] <brickbat> i think it is clashing with the trackpad
[06:18] <freezey> geefinator: na tats what i was wondering.. whats the packages for that
[06:18] <Wips> interbird, there's nothing called "guest ok"
[06:18] <geefinator> freezey: libdbi-perl and libdbd-mysql-perl
[06:18] <brickbat> yes ive tried booting with the mouse already plugged in
[06:19] <freezey> geefinator: already installed
[06:19] <zachary> scunizi: so i go to do that, and i get the error."Cant have the end before the start"
[06:19] <geefinator> freezey,  ok so what error are you getting?
[06:19] <soundray> brickbat: is it an optical mouse?
[06:19] <brickbat> umm let me see
[06:19] <Scunizi> zachary, your / is too large, reduce to 15gigs at the most. Although most writings say to double your ram to get the size of your swap, it's not neccessary, 2 gigs is plenty.
[06:19] <Wips> ah, found it interbird.. It's set to Yes
[06:19] <interbird> Wips: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and add guest ok = yes to the global section and then sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:20] <freezey> command not found
[06:20] <freezey> geefinator: command not found
[06:20] <CH1P> my ethernet driver is not getting detected in ubuntu anyways of using driver softwares to fix the problem?
[06:20] <geefinator> freezey, what command?
[06:20] <soundray> CH1P: your ethernet *card* isn't getting detected?
[06:21] <zachary> ok, so 15 GB instead of 20...and i have a pretty huge 500GB hdd here....i'm not going to worry much about the 7GB...is there a reason that I should save those 7GB?
[06:21] <CH1P> soundray:yeah,
[06:21] <brickbat> its not an optical mouse it has a ball
[06:21] <zachary> ideally i would like to be able to obliterate the / partition and stick something else in there whenever i want to
[06:21] <freezey> geefinator: use and user
[06:21] <interbird> Wips: can you paste /etc/samba/smb.conf on #flood so i can check it ?
[06:21] <Scunizi> zachary, when using the partitioning tool don't use the "sliders" to adjust the size.  Delete all the partitions (or choose back and start over again)
[06:21] <soundray> CH1P: is it a PCI card?
[06:21] <CH1P> yes
[06:21] <geefinator> freezey: could you send me a copy of the code?  my aim screen is gbrodniak
[06:21] <Wips> sure interbird
[06:21] <brickbat> the mouse works fine on my desktop pc
[06:21] <brickbat> in ubuntu
[06:22] <zachary> Scunizi:i'm typing numbers in, there are no sliders.  I'm using the "Prepare partitions" manually from inside the install
[06:22] <soundray> CH1P: is there a line in the output of lspci that corresponds to your card?
[06:22] <geefinator> feezey, or you could email it to me.
[06:23] <Eon_> soundray: this is everlong...are you there_
[06:23] <soundray> Eon_: yes
[06:23] <Scunizi> zachary, no matter how large your drive you'll eventually want the extra space. :).. ok, no sliders. Typically only change the end cylindar for each partition and allow the program to choose the beginning cyl.
[06:23] <amishninja> geef: you untar php4 yet?
[06:23] <CH1P> soundray: do u mean this one: RTL8139D PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
[06:23] <soundray> CH1P: yes, second...
[06:23] <Eon_> soundray: i-m sorry to bother but that thing didnt work
[06:24] <CH1P> ok
[06:24] <geefinator> amishninja:  yep, sure did.  If you do ./configure --help it will list all the flags you can use to specify what you want php to use.
[06:24] <Eon_> soundray: is stays white
[06:24] <siloko> is it recommended to run anti-virus software on ubuntu?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> siloko all the av software i know of.. scans files for windows viruses. :)
[06:24] <mbm1980> no
[06:24] <amishninja> geef: okay. so should I do some research on that probably? will I need to really be careful in how I use my flags?
[06:24] <zachary> viruses on linux? what?
[06:24] <USMarine> ye
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> siloko so if yu want to scan your windows drives.. go for it!
[06:24] <USMarine> but they can't run
[06:25] <USMarine> on linux
[06:25] <amishninja> wait. did you just say virus and linux in the same sentence without saying not?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> !virus
[06:25] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:25] <Timex> viruses are u joking
[06:25] <siloko> Dr_Willis: what eindows drives :)
[06:25] <Scunizi> siloko, only if you want to keep your W$ bretheren clean.. doesn't make a diff now on Linux
[06:25] <siloko> *windows*
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> siloko i guess you just answered your own question then.
[06:25] <siloko> OK thanks guys
[06:25] <Dark> How does one choose what video card to use for the installation at the xserver crash?
[06:25] <superkuh> Do I need two NICs to use two gateways?
[06:25] <geefinator> amishninja:  I would read through the flags, and don't worry about being careful, you can always reconfigure.
[06:26] <dan_l> Ok, so if I buy this laptop, what are the odds that Ubuntu is _not_ going to run on it?  Sorry, I just want to be sure here.
[06:27] <brickbat> so, any ideas on my mouse laptop problem
[06:27] <soundray> CH1P: Your card is supported in Ubuntu "out of the box". Try booting with the noapic option. Ubotu has some advice:
[06:27] <Stevethepirate> http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7875/screenshot1gf1.png
[06:27] <superkuh> I have two gateways, each with a different ISP. They are both routers on the internal LAN. I have a machine with one NIC I'd like to use both gateways, perhaps even if I have to do it manually via bash. Any ideas?
[06:27] <Stevethepirate> http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7079/screenshot2sd9.png
[06:27] <Stevethepirate> http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6469/screenshot3wf9.png
[06:27] <soundray> !bootoptions > CH1P
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> dan_l depends on the laptop. :) most likely it will run. Theres always a chanve of little issues.
[06:27] <J-_>  Will the gnome pppoe client work with cable internet too?
[06:27] <Stevethepirate> I get that screwup for some reason... can anyone help me fix it?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> dan_l thers various linis laptop web sites/forums out to check first.
[06:27] <mheath> So, anyone here have a wacom based tablet PC, and have problems with the tablet not working on coming back from suspend?
[06:27] <soundray> Eon_: what driver did you set it to?
[06:28] <Eon_> soundra: VESA right?
[06:28] <dan_l> Dr_Willis:  I've only found brief chat about this particular lt. I googled:  "Model + Ubuntu" and came up with only a few brief forum posts.
[06:28] <Eon_> soundray: VESA right?
[06:28] <soundray> Eon_: yes. What card do you have?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> dan_l  try it with othe rdisrtos also.   if it has issues in one.it might have issues in others.
[06:29] <dan_l> Obviously, I'm going to leave VISTA on there just in case, but I'd like to learn Linux while I'm at it.
[06:29] <Eon_> soundray: its an onboar SiS
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> dan_l most common issues willbe wireless, and perhaps suspend/hibernate,   a lot depends on which chipset the laptop is using.
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> dan_l sound can be an issue with some laptops  also.
[06:29] <soundray> Eon_: just testing something here. I may drop out, but will come back.
[06:30] <Eon_> soundray: ok, thanks
[06:30] <dan_l> Dr_Willis:  I'm not concerned with suspend/hibernate, I don't really need sound.  Wireless is my only concern.
[06:30] <Stevethepirate> X- help please.... resolutions screwed!!! Urgent help please..
[06:30] <_> hi
[06:30] <qazwsx> how do I get /usr/include/gnu/stubs-32.h? (I'm on amd64)
[06:30] <USMarine> dan_l: wireless and sound works finr here in both suspends
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> dan_l then you should do some research on what chipset its using for wireless..
[06:31] <_> where on the site I can resitrate ?
[06:31] <soundray> Eon_: when do you get the white screen -- straight away, or only once you're logged in?
[06:31] <musashi> soundray, i snap`d a shot of the error im getting when loading ubuntu.  it is : 0.102302]  PCI: BIO BUG #81[xxxxxxxx] 
[06:31] <Eon_> soundray: straight away
[06:32] <Ph> hi
[06:32] <_> is anybody german here ?
[06:32] <Ph> can anyone help me with an Nvidia driver problem?
[06:32] <qazwsx> ls
[06:32] <ericb> does any one know if an intel cs110 webcam will work in ubuntu?
[06:32] <zachary> scunizi: i'm just doing fdisk through the terminal...the manual partitioner is too annoying
[06:32] <USMarine> Ph what?
[06:32] <soundray> musashi: I wouldn't be surprised if there was a connection. Sorry, I still won't be able to help you though.
[06:32] <Eon_> soundray: oh, when i type the password and the username the screen is still visible
[06:32] <USMarine> ~de
[06:32] <USMarine> !de
[06:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:33] <musashi> soundray, ok, just wondering if you knew where to start, knowing its a PCI error
[06:33] <Dark> Anyone know the command to select 1 of 2 video cards during the installation? I cant disable the onboard video and there are no jumpers or a bios function. Also the onboard is broke.
[06:33] <soundray> musashi: noapic perhaps -- see ubotu's private message
[06:33] <Ph> USMarine, after installing and enabling the nvidia-glx  package and having it work until reboot there's a mismatch between the versions installed
[06:33] <soundray> !bootoptions > musashi
[06:33] <Stevethepirate> soundray: hi.
[06:33] <Stevethepirate> can you help me.. my screen resolution is screwed
[06:33] <Stevethepirate> like.
[06:33] <USMarine> Ph the version must match the kernel version
[06:33] <Stevethepirate> x shows only part of the screen
[06:34] <Ph> it appears that the kernel module is from legacy and the other 1.9x
[06:34] <Stevethepirate> i've dpkg'ed and reconfigured many times.. to no avail.
[06:34] <soundray> Eon_: try switching back and forth between graphical and text mode: Ctrl-Alt-F2, then Ctrl-Alt-F7
[06:34] <Scunizi> zachary, ouch.. if you have another machine it might be worth the effort to download and burn the gparted live cd or System Rescue cd that has gparted on it.. boot to it and partition graphically.. I don't use fdisk on the terminal.. I've messed to many things up trying.
[06:34] <soundray> Stevethepirate: post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I'll have a look
[06:35] <Stevethepirate> Kk'
[06:35] <Stevethepirate> want a picture as well?
[06:35] <Stevethepirate> Illustrates the problem well.
[06:35] <PhenGy> unable to compile eggdrop,  GCC error          what module must install ?
[06:35] <soundray> Stevethepirate: don't forget to give me the url
[06:35] <zachary> scunizi: i'm migrating from gentoo, i'm used to this nonsense...
[06:35] <Stevethepirate> soundray: duh :P
[06:35] <USMarine> Stevethepirate: the conf file is enough
[06:35] <brickbat> umm is someone thinking about my problem or am I just waiting for nothing?
[06:35] <USMarine> brickbat: what is it
[06:35] <amishninja> geef: Total change in direction. I decided that I want to try installing a virtual machine and putting all the php4 stuff on there so that I can separate things and keep them from messing each other up. can you recommend anything like VMWare?
[06:35] <soundray> Eon_: do you have a Ubuntu Desktop CD available?
[06:36] <Eon_> soundray: ok im just gonna have to reboot...but ill be right back
[06:36] <soundray> Eon_: hold on...
[06:36] <brickbat> I have a hp laptop and when I try to use a ps/2 mouse it wont work
[06:36] <musashi> soundray, putting '#'s in front of whole grub lines will make them not show up, correct?
[06:37] <soundray> musashi: you'd have to # out the entire section from title... to boot
[06:37] <Stevethepirate> soundray, USMarine : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4027
[06:37] <musashi> soundray, ok
[06:37] <romaxmaniax> hello guys
[06:37] <USMarine> brickbat: post your xorg.conf in a past site
[06:37] <Dark> Anyone know the command to select 1 of 2 video cards during the installation? I cant disable the onboard video and there are no jumpers or a bios function. Also the onboard is broke.
[06:37] <soundray> Stevethepirate: there's something wrong with that url
[06:38] <soundray> Eon_: do you have a live CD?
[06:38] <USMarine> brickbat:  http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin
[06:38] <romaxmaniax> is there someone that can help me with decnet on feisty ?
[06:38] <USMarine> Stevethepirate: http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin
[06:38] <Dark> I mean there is no bios function to kill the onboard
[06:38] <Eon_> soundray: yeah...im running it right now
[06:38] <Stevethepirate> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4027
[06:38] <amishninja> Anyone know of a good virtual OS program like VMWare for Linux?
[06:38] <soundray> Stevethepirate: no, that's wrong
[06:38] <Stevethepirate> soundray: huhs?
[06:39] <soundray> Eon_: excellent, let's try a fix from here then.
[06:39] <USMarine> amishninja: vmware
[06:39] <Esteth> amishninja: vmware
[06:39] <romaxmaniax> amishninja : vmware server
[06:39] <soundray> Stevethepirate: check it out for yourself. It's not well-formed.
[06:39] <USMarine> Stevethepirate: paste in the site i just gave you
[06:39] <soundray> Eon_: do you know the /dev/-name of your root partition?
[06:40] <brickbat> ok it will take me a few minutes
[06:40] <Eon_> soundray: yeah i think...isnt it the username?
[06:40] <musashi> soundray, it shows only one line being edited on that URL, mine has two lines with /boot/. do i add it to the last one?
[06:40] <magnetron> amishninja: virtualbox or qemu
[06:40] <frojnd> Is there any magazine about linux ?
[06:40] <amishninja> oh awesome, VMware is on linux. last I remember it was just windows. score!
[06:40] <soundray> Eon_: no
[06:40] <soundray> Eon_: something like /dev/sda1
[06:40] <Stevethepirate> http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=4723
[06:40] <amishninja> thanks guys
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> vmware has been for linux for years..
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:40] <amishninja> ...
[06:40] <amishninja> SHUT UP, OKAY?!
[06:40] <amishninja> :(
[06:40] <stefg> !virtualizers
[06:40] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[06:40] <genii> frojnd: Linux Format
[06:41] <J-_> Will mainly all old IBM computer's work with Ubuntu? Or, is that just not very specific? I don't know the computer model, etc..
[06:41] <USMarine> Stevethepirate: remove those modeline
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> vmware-server is 'free'  if you go to the vmwre web site and get a serial # from them.
[06:41] <magnetron> !language | amishninja
[06:41] <ubotu> amishninja: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:41] <amishninja> It was a joke, no worries
[06:41] <Stevethepirate> USMarine: all of the lines containing modeline?
[06:41] <genii> J-_: Anything after 386, with enough memory
[06:41] <USMarine> omfg
[06:41] <USMarine> you got 2 monitor sections
[06:41] <Stevethepirate> lols
[06:42] <Stevethepirate> that sounds phail.
[06:42] <Stevethepirate> okay
[06:42] <J-_> genii: awesome thanks =D
[06:42] <romaxmaniax> nobody can help with decnet ??? please ???
[06:42] <Stevethepirate> well. thats what nvidia dpkg--reconfigure does
[06:42] <USMarine> hmm
[06:42] <Eon_> soundray: hmmm...im afraid not then...if that is the deafault name then it must be it :p
[06:42] <genii> J-_: np
[06:42] <soundray> Stevethepirate: also, remove the Virtual 1280 1024 line
[06:43] <Stevethepirate> soundray: so those modeline lines must gtfo?
[06:43] <Gerr2> Hi Tyler
[06:43] <spazzyteapot> Anyone here know Java?
[06:43] <USMarine> seems FUBAR
[06:43] <Stevethepirate> spazzyteapot: he's no in today :P
[06:43] <spazzyteapot> I'm here via the Java IRC applett, and can't get to #java.
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> !java
[06:43] <Stevethepirate> *not
[06:43] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:43] <USMarine> spazzyteapot: sure
[06:44] <soundray> Eon_: do a 'sudo fdisk -l' and tell me which one looks like your root partition. It's probably the biggest one of those with an ext3 filesystem on.
[06:44] <Stevethepirate> spazzyteapot: yeah.. can help.
[06:44] <soundray> Stevethepirate: yes
[06:44] <babyTux> Can someone help me how to do the equivalent a ipconfig /release (/renew) in linux
[06:44] <Stevethepirate> USMarine: please fix teh foobar lineS!
[06:44] <spazzyteapot> http://p.opsat.net/recent
[06:44] <PriceChild> babyTux, sudo dhclient
[06:44] <spazzyteapot> It's the one called "java imstakes".
[06:44] <romaxmaniax> babyTux: dhclient look @ manpage
[06:44] <Stevethepirate> soundray: okay, modelines and virtual lines gone..
[06:45] <J-_> Does roger's use a static or dhcp configuration?
[06:45] <spazzyteapot> Stevethepirate, USMarine: I'm learning Java, and my switch statement won't compile.
[06:45] <USMarine> Stevethepirate: try it out
[06:45] <Eon_> soundray: /dev/hdc3
[06:45] <Innomen> thank you :(
[06:45] <USMarine> spazzyteapot: must be a syntax error
[06:45] <Stevethepirate> spazzyteapot: do you break after each case of the switch?
[06:45] <soundray> Eon_: ugh, do you have three disk drives?
[06:45] <Stevethepirate> USMarine: try out as is now?
[06:45] <J-_> doot
[06:45] <Stevethepirate> soundray: i have 6 ATM
[06:45] <Stevethepirate> :P
[06:46] <spazzyteapot> Stevethepirate: yes.
[06:46] <soundray> Eon_: or is your hard drive connected to the secondary IDE channel?
[06:46] <Stevethepirate> kk
[06:46] <USMarine> you're using the that computer at the moment?
[06:46] <Stevethepirate> spazzyteapot: pastebin the code
[06:46] <zachary> scunizi: okay, got it all working, the part i wasnt getting was that the extended partition is made, as /dev/sda4 for example, and partitions can be created inside of the extended partition...so i should have made an extended one first that went to the end of the drive and then made more partitions....thanks for the discussion, have a good day.
[06:46] <spazzyteapot> http://p.opsat.net/recent - it's the one titled "Java Mistakes".
[06:46] <Eon_> soundray: a small one for win xp, a swap partition and the main partition with ubuntu on it
[06:46] <pete83> Can somebody please tell me how to fix the following command? This gives me an error:   dbus-send --system --print-reply --reply-timeout=2000 --type=method_call --dest=org.freedesktop.NetworkManager /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/eth1 org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.setActiveDevice(eth1, "Dlink-network")
[06:46] <USMarine> zachary: try LVM next time
[06:46] <soundray> Eon_: I said disk drives, not partitions
[06:46] <zachary> USMarine: whats LVM
[06:47] <Scunizi> zachary, glad you got it worked out.  The actual install should go a lot smoother.. :-)
[06:47] <babyTux> dhclient reports no DHCP offers
[06:47] <spazzyteapot> This computer is fifteen flavors of "messed up" (Novellware + Windows = AIEE!), and that's the best sort of paste-binning I've been able to do.
[06:47] <babyTux> I'm using wireless
[06:47] <babyTux> and ubuntu reports it's connected
[06:47] <soundray> Eon_: never mind. Do a 'sudo mount /dev/hdc3 /mnt'
[06:47] <thana_> join
[06:47] <USMarine> zachary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux)
[06:47] <zachary> already there :)
[06:47] <babyTux> and I'm using the same wireless on a windows box to mirc chat
[06:47] <spazzyteapot> Stevethepirate: Wha'd I do wrong?
[06:47] <thana_> join  #anime-kraze @ irc.rizon.net
[06:47] <simu> hello, I have a strange problem on one of my servers: twice a day, at the exact point of time, the owner of /dev/null changes to a (ldap) useraccount that has /dev/null defined as homeDirectory
[06:47] <thana_> :/
[06:48] <Eon_> soundray: done
[06:48] <musashi> soundray, im not sure how to add that properly.. i just tried and it did not appear on the grub menu
[06:48] <soundray> Eon_: now 'ls -l /mnt/etc/X11/X'. What does it say?
[06:48] <spazzyteapot> SteveThePirate: What did I mess up with my java?
[06:49] <hayesb69> This is confusing.....
[06:49] <USMarine> spazzyteapot: you didn't return int
[06:49] <Eon_> soundray: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2007-09-15 18:48 /mnt/etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/Xorg
[06:49] <Stevethepirate> USMarine: okay..
[06:49] <hayesb69> How do I mount a hard drive so I can access my files?
[06:49] <Stevethepirate> now my X doesn't start
[06:49] <spazzyteapot> USMarine: Wait, what?
[06:49] <Stevethepirate> well. it might start with a resolution higher than my monitor can supper.
[06:49] <Stevethepirate> *support
[06:49] <Stevethepirate> lols
[06:49] <USMarine> Stevethepirate: you wanna try with my xorg ?
[06:50] <Stevethepirate> well.
[06:50] <USMarine> i have an nvidia
[06:50] <Stevethepirate> well.
[06:50] <Stevethepirate> the thing is
[06:50] <Stevethepirate> how can i get it from you/
[06:50] <Stevethepirate> wait
[06:50] <Stevethepirate> i can maybe wget it
[06:50] <USMarine> i can post it
[06:50] <Stevethepirate> lol
[06:50] <spazzyteapot> USMarine: I have "return (x)" after every switch statement.
[06:50] <soundray> musashi: find the line that begins with # kopt= and append noapic to the end of that.  Don't remove the #. After that, run 'sudo update-grub' and reboot.
[06:50] <hayesb69> How do I mount a slave hard drive?
[06:50] <Stevethepirate> spazzyteapot: "return x" or return x;" ?
[06:50] <Stevethepirate> USMarine: pastebin it
[06:50] <hayesb69> I can't access my files.
[06:50] <musashi> soundray, ok
[06:50] <Stevethepirate> then give me the link to the direct txt
[06:51] <USMarine> spazzyteapot: if it doesn't match any case it won't
[06:51] <Stevethepirate> and i'll wget it
[06:51] <AJ--> guys i just wanna ask... how many MB is a T1 line???
[06:51] <spazzyteapot> ?
[06:51] <babyTux> 1.544
[06:51] <Stevethepirate> AJ--: thats like saying.. 'how many megs is adsl'..
[06:51] <Stevethepirate> t1 is a type of connection.
[06:51] <AJ--> 1.544 MB?
[06:51] <Stevethepirate> not a def speed.
[06:51] <soundray> Eon_: that's good. NOw do a 'gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and paste the contents on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:51] <hagna> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgthread-2.0
[06:51] <hayesb69> HELP
[06:52] <hagna> who knows what package it belongs to?
[06:52] <USMarine> Stevethepirate: http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=4724
[06:52] <Stevethepirate> USMarine: pm it to me pls
[06:52] <musashi> soundray, here goes then
[06:52] <hagna> I would find out myself but I don't know how to do that either
[06:52] <zachary> so in the install, where's the huge menu of things that i can install with my system that i remember with fedora...? maybe i need to read ubuntu docs...
[06:52] <hayesb69> how do I mount a hard drive it says it isn't mounted.
[06:52] <mik3> anyone ever use minicom with a usb -> db9 adapter and knows what I need to change the comm port to so it works?
[06:52] <soundray> mik3: /dev/ttyUSB0
[06:53] <boubbin> is winrar able to extract .tar ?
[06:53] <{dreamWeaver}>  /close
[06:53] <magnetron> !windows | boubbin
[06:53] <ubotu> boubbin: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:53] <Eon_> soundray: theres nothing there when i do it
[06:53] <boubbin> magnetron :P
[06:53] <USMarine> spazzyteapot: put return 0 before the method end
[06:53] <magnetron> boubbin: .tar files aren't compressed
[06:53] <Eon_> :$
[06:53] <boubbin> magnetron yeah but is winrar able to handle with em ?
[06:54] <stefg> !windows | boubbin
[06:54] <ubotu> boubbin: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:54] <mik3> soundray : thanks dude, i don't suppose you recall how to do a system restort on an allied telesyn switch? :P
[06:54] <soundray> Eon_: Sorry! Do a 'gksudo /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf' and paste the contents on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:54] <magnetron> boubbin: you could use 7-zip to extract tar files on windows. don't ask me about winrar
[06:54] <Ph> boubbin, 7-zip is, and it's free software
[06:54] <bruenig> gksudo gedit you mean
[06:54] <musashi> soundray, still get the PCI BIOS BUG #81 thing
[06:54] <soundray> mik3: sorry
[06:55] <soundray> musashi: see if it still kills your wifi device now.
[06:55] <AngryElf_> how could I force ubuntu to redetect any attached hard drives that aren't showing up as /dev/sde (like it should be)?
[06:55] <Stevethepirate> USMarine: > pm
[06:55] <Stevethepirate> !pm
[06:55] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:55] <Stevethepirate> luls
[06:55] <musashi> soundray, ok ill go into other OSs then, thanks for the help
[06:55] <Stevethepirate> !sex
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <Stevethepirate> good
[06:55] <magnetron> AngryElf_: you need to figure why they aren't detected
[06:55] <Stevethepirate> the bots on some servers are dodgy :P
[06:55] <musashi> ill let you know if it works
[06:56] <Eon_> soundray: sorry...still nothing there :(
[06:56] <AngryElf_> magnetron: my guess is a pwoer cycle would make it show up, but i'm remote right now so I Can't do that :(
[06:56] <AngryElf_> maybe restart the USB service?
[06:56] <soundray> Eon_: did you type it with a capital X?
[06:57] <Eon_> soundray: iyeah...i mean i copied it
[06:57] <ublin> ./list
[06:57] <soundray> Eon_: it must be me again then
[06:57] <Seipher> I just recently did the upgrade from Feisty to the Gutsy beta/preview(?) and I am finding that compiz performance is significantly worse than it was when I installed trevino's stuff in Fiesty.
[06:57] <soundray> Eon_: I meant 'gksudo gedit /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[06:58] <Eon_> soundray: ok now were rolling
[06:58] <soundray> Eon_: I have to log off soon, I'm no big help today
[06:58] <Seipher> Is anyone else finding that.  I am using a low end Radeon Mobility with the opensource drivers but like I said it wasn't a problem in Fiesty
[06:58] <soundray> Seipher: gutsy problem? #ubuntu+1
[06:59] <Seipher> right sorry just saw that
[06:59] <Seipher> thanks
[06:59] <Stevethepirate> soundray: can you like host a txt file for me?
[06:59] <Eon_> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40271/
[06:59] <soundray> Stevethepirate: no, use the pastebin
[06:59] <Stevethepirate> or a way that i can wget a file
[06:59] <Stevethepirate> soundray: i cant.. need an actual -.txt- i can download
[06:59] <Stevethepirate> to rename to xorg.conf
[07:00] <Stevethepirate> :(
[07:00] <Pirate_Hunter> whats the command to stop usb devices like scanner if they dont have an interface?
[07:00] <Stevethepirate> Pirate_Hunter: what you got against pirates?
[07:00] <soundray> Stevethepirate: explain
[07:00] <Stevethepirate> soundray: well. my x is dead
[07:01] <Munchkinguy> Are there any good free-software-oriented Beginner Programming books? Computer Programming for Dummies is great, but it is based on Microsoft Visual Studio.
[07:01] <Pirate_Hunter> Stevethepirate: lufie got away from me so i'll hunt every pirate till i find him :/
[07:01] <Stevethepirate> so you know some pastebins have the 'raw text' option
[07:01] <Stevethepirate> thats a txt file
[07:01] <stuart-> hey guys, how'd i join a .001, .002 file which is not a .rar?
[07:01] <Stevethepirate> raw
[07:01] <Pirate_Hunter> whats the command to stop usb devices like scanner if they dont have an interface?
[07:01] <Stevethepirate> stuart-: hjslit
[07:01] <USMarine> stuart-: open the 00 with ark
[07:01] <USMarine> and tell it's a rar file
[07:01] <Stevethepirate> soundray: so i need a way for USMarine to send me his xorg.conf...
[07:01] <stuart-> ark?
[07:02] <B-Minus> hey all
[07:02] <stuart-> Stevethepirate, is hjsplit in the reps?
[07:02] <B-Minus> !dutch
[07:02] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[07:02] <USMarine> stuart-: i use kde
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Stevethepirate: Use the pastebin
[07:02] <stuart-> xfce here
[07:02] <USMarine> sorry to hear that
[07:02] <Stevethepirate> Jack_Sparrow: gtfo.
[07:02] <soundray> Stevethepirate: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org -- append /plain to the URL to download
[07:02] <Eon_> soundray: did you see it?
[07:02] <Stevethepirate> ahhh.
[07:03] <Stevethepirate> USMarine: can you do that.
[07:03] <soundray> Stevethepirate: congrats, you've made my ignore list now.
[07:03] <Stevethepirate> luls
[07:03] <USMarine> do what?
[07:03] <soundray> Eon_: yes, I've read it, too, and can't see anything wrong with it. Hold on.
[07:03] <Stevethepirate> host on paste.ubuntu.nl.org
[07:03] <Stevethepirate> please
[07:03] <Warini> guys how can i activate mod_rewrite
[07:03] <Warini> ???
[07:04] <brickbat> ok here is my xorg http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=4725
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Stevethepirate: Whats that...?
[07:04] <Pirate_Hunter> How do i stop USB devices from terminal?
[07:04] <wilhart> does anyone have internet dj console up and running?
[07:04] <soundray> Pirate_Hunter: eject /media/whatever
[07:04] <Eon_> soundray: maybe...do you know any way of shutting down an application manually
[07:04] <pbandj> hi all, everytime i boot up my machine my screen goes dead as im about to launch gnome.  i booted to command line and it worked fine. then i typed in startx and it crapped out on me again.  i think it might be one of two things happening. i installed an extra 500 gig drive last night and i also changed some i.ps around.  can anyone offer a suggestion?  how can i check what the ip on this machine is?
[07:04] <soundray> Eon_: what application?
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kill
[07:05] <kane77> anyone here uses screenlets? how do I make them start at startup? I checked the checkbox, and the program added the screenlet to programs to be run at startup, but not all start (only 1-2 random ones) :/
[07:05] <Pirate_Hunter> soundray: what if it is a scanner?
[07:05] <USMarine> Stevethepirate: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40274/
[07:05] <zachary> pbandj: have the X11 log? maybe /var/log/X...
[07:05] <Eon_> soundray: the one that is making the desktop effects System > Preferences > Desktop Effecta
[07:05] <brickbat> USmarine: did you get my xorg?
[07:06] <USMarine> brickbat: i'm afraid not
[07:06] <pbandj> zachary: i just booted into safemode. i will check that log
[07:06] <Eon_> soundray: thats the one i selected
[07:06] <furenku> hello! i want to have a realtime kernel, but with the nvidia drivers too; there is an nvidia installer that asks for a precompiled kernel, how can i point it to the realtime kernel?
[07:06] <brickbat> USmarine: http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=4725
[07:07] <USMarine> brickbat: what's the problem again?
[07:07] <Stevethepirate> USMarine: shot.
[07:07] <Stevethepirate> got it
[07:07] <Eon_> soundray: before the screen turned white
[07:07] <USMarine> ah, the ps2 mouse
[07:07] <brickbat> i cannot get an external mouse connected to the ps/2 port to work on my hp laptop
[07:08] <soundray> Eon_: it's not an application. What this does is to change a setting somewhere, but I don't know where. I would normally expect the reconfiguring of xorg to turn it back. Clearly, that hasn't worked for you. Let me think...
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> brickbat: check your bios/cmos settings..
[07:08] <cizarr> hi, when i try to connect to any app(firefox,xchat...) over the internet , it RESET my connection.. but when i try second time, it works(connection is not reset, i can load the page for e.g)
[07:08] <vattam> hi all
[07:08] <vattam> I need to run conio.h in my c program and for that i have to locate the file on the system
[07:08] <vattam> Can anybody help me locate it?
[07:08] <brickbat> umm check for what?
[07:08] <USMarine> vattam: localte conio.h
[07:08] <USMarine> locate*
[07:09] <maxdoubt> is there a command-line installer for ubuntu?
[07:09] <Pici> vattam: I thought conio.h was for turbo c/c++. I could be wrong though
[07:09] <USMarine> maxdoubt: yes
[07:09] <Jack_Sparrow> maxdoubt: alternate cd..
[07:09] <USMarine> brickbat: xorg seems ok
[07:09] <profanephobia> is there a way to install my brother fax machine as a scanner to send images to hylafax?
[07:09] <pbandj> zachary: im in the log folder. which log should i open?
[07:10] <USMarine> must be something with the bios
[07:10] <maxdoubt> USMarine, Jack_Sparrow: thx
[07:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[07:10] <brickbat> it works fine in XP
[07:10] <vattam> Pici: It is basically for TC but there are files through which we can run it , atleast thats what google says
[07:10] <USMarine> brickbat: try
[07:10] <soundray> Eon_: check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40276/ -- I've only disabled DRI in line 20. Make the same change in your gedit and save the file. Then reboot and see if it works.
[07:10] <Jack_Sparrow> brickbat: This isnt XP
[07:10] <brickbat> if it were the bios then it shouldnt work in any os
[07:10] <USMarine> brickbat: sudo cat /dev/input/mice
[07:11] <USMarine> and move the mouse
[07:11] <zachary> pbandj: probably called Xorg0.log
[07:11] <tyler_d> listing usb devices? eg. /dev/sda?
[07:11] <Jack_Sparrow> brickbat: XP might force a detection.. stupid NOT to at least check
[07:11] <pbandj> wait a sec. i think i also updated a driver too.  i think that may be the cause.
[07:11] <zachary> pbandj: or Xorg.0.log
[07:11] <pbandj> zachary: there is nothing with an "x" in my log
[07:11] <pbandj> how to i reset my display settings?
[07:11] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:11] <USMarine> pbandj: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:12] <pete83> f
[07:12] <Jack_Sparrow> play nice..cya
[07:12] <profanephobia> is there a way to install my brother fax machine as a scanner to send images to hylafax?
[07:13] <haru> how do i set alt tab to change application window
[07:13] <Eon_> soundray: isnt it missing a bit of text? in the end
[07:13] <zachary> pbandj: i dont know what adding a harddrive would do...did you update gnome or X or video card drivers or anything, can you see anything besides the TTY?
[07:14] <brickbat> very little happens...after lots of moving, I get 8???8???????8?????8?????????
[07:14] <soundray> Eon_: possible. I only pasted back what you pasted. Just make the change in line 20.
[07:14] <brickbat> and it seems to be delayed
[07:14] <vattam> USMarine: http://en.allexperts.com/q/Unix-Linux-OS-1064/conio-h.htm this link here says that i have to find the package that has the file
[07:14] <brickbat> so it takes a few second before it is displayed
[07:14] <USMarine> vattam: install gcc
[07:14] <vattam> USMarine: and gives some RPM technique
[07:14] <vattam> USMarine: its already installed
[07:14] <USMarine> brickbat: hmm, that's not normal
[07:15] <vattam> USMarine: locate didnt fetch any results
[07:15] <haru> how do i set alt tab to change application window
[07:15] <whatspy> hi, how can I add more bass to my music in ubuntu ?
[07:15] <vattam> USMarine: but how to do it on Ubuntu it doesnt say
[07:15] <soundray> haru: it's already set that way, unless you're on a Mac.
[07:15] <brickbat> lol I know that
[07:15] <USMarine> whatspy: increase the bass fader
[07:15] <haru> soundray, well its unset somehow
[07:15] <whatspy> USMarine? how?
[07:15] <haru> how do i reset it
[07:16] <USMarine> open the mixer
[07:16] <Eon_> soundray: ok ill check it out...oh if that doesnt work....can i install ntfs config using the live cd...if so id be able to keep my data you know...but the synaptic manager doesnt have ntfs config on its list
[07:16] <cld2> anyone know how to burn a dvd that doesnt have the windows fs constrains? like only letting a dir structure have 255 chars and converting filenames to 32 chars? is that roundrock or juliete? thanks.
[07:16] <soundray> haru: System-Preferences-Keyboard shortcuts: Window Management - Move between windows with poput
[07:16] <soundray> *popup
[07:16] <RancidLM> hey all i have a partition error and need to re-install my system is there any way synaptic can save a list a packages i have installed, so i can run the list after i re-install to get all the apps i have back?
[07:17] <brickbat> umm isnt it rockridge
[07:17] <haru> soundray, thanks
[07:17] <stefg> !clone | RancidLM
[07:17] <ubotu> RancidLM: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[07:17] <soundray> Eon_: ntfs config? Do you mean ntfs-3g?
[07:18] <RancidLM> thanks stefg!
[07:18] <profanephobia> is there a way to install my brother fax machine as a scanner to send images to hylafax  or get the images the fax machine makes and use them somehow?
[07:18] <Lawliet> Hi.  I keep getting an error when I try to compile something.  I type 'sudo ./configure' and a bunch of stuff goes though, then I get: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 libxml-2.0) were not met.  I installed libxml-dev, though I am not sure what to type for the gtk. :/
[07:18] <Eon_> soundray: maybe...does that gives the permission write on ntfs?
[07:19] <soundray> profanephobia: probably via a fax modem
[07:19] <soundray> Eon_: yes
[07:19] <PhilH> Hi guys, i've got an nvidia driver conflict, can anyone help?
[07:19] <USMarine> Lawliet: use synaptic and search for gtk+
[07:19] <Lawliet> USMarine: Thanks, will try.
[07:19] <PhilH> Error: API mismatch to be specific
[07:20] <cherva> I have a problem with superkaramba the widgets aren't updating. In my previous install I didn't had this problem pls help
[07:20] <PhilH> it appears that 1.0-7184 and 1.0-9631 have both been installed at one point and the two are now interfering with eachother
[07:20] <stefg> PhilH: did you use envy or automatix ?
[07:20] <soundray> Eon_: could you repaste your entire xorg.conf -- I want to see the bottom of it as well pls
[07:20] <PhilH> stefg, neither
[07:21] <fevel> PhilH, remove both drivers and use envy to install it
[07:21] <stefg> !envy
[07:21] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:21] <brickbat> USmarine: any further ideas?
[07:21] <Lawliet> A very long list of items comes up and I'm a complete newb  Any clue which I install?
[07:21] <stefg> fevel: don't recomend envy
[07:21] <PhilH> fevel, i've removed both and reinstalled the correct one already, it appears 1.0-7 sticks around
[07:21] <USMarine> Lawliet: gtk+ ....-dev
[07:21] <USMarine> something like it
[07:21] <fevel> I really dont believe that stefg
[07:21] <Lawliet> USMarine: Thank ye :)
[07:22] <Eon_> soundray: well...i think i kinda screwd up...i erased that from the xorg conference by pasting what was on the pastebin
[07:22] <stefg> PhilH: what card do you have ?
[07:22] <PhilH> fevel, scripts like that are generally a bad move
[07:22] <Eon_> soundray: now it wont work right?
[07:22] <PhilH> stefg, Geforce4 MX460
[07:22] <soundray> Eon_: did you save already?
[07:22] <Yancho> i used to authenticate some days ago to my pg server .. now i rebooted the server and can't connect .. any idea where i can start seeing where is the problem please? (not very linux friendly here)
[07:22] <Eon_> soundray: im afraid so
[07:22] <PhilH> i've had it working immediately after reinstalling the packages, after a reboot it breaks
[07:23] <stefg> PhilH: so you'd need the nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:23] <fevel> PhilH, is there a easier way
[07:23] <PhilH> stefg, no, i don't think so
[07:23] <USMarine> yes
[07:23] <USMarine> MX use legacy
[07:23] <stefg> !info nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:23] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.20.5-16.29 (feisty), package size 2992 kB, installed size 9780 kB
[07:23] <PhilH> i don't need glx-new but i'm fairly sure glx-legacy isn't right either
[07:23] <soundray> Eon_: have a look at /mnt/etc/X11/ -- there is probably an xorg.conf backup floating around. Copy it back, or, if you're unsure whether it's good, pastebin it for me to look at.
[07:24] <musashi> soundray, im in vista now, and when i booted it auto installed the broadcom adapter. should i try booting linux then coming back to see if it is stll there?
[07:24] <brickbat> USmarine: ?
[07:24] <ublin_> join #ubuntu-it
[07:24] <PhilH> the driver works initially, the problem only presents itself after rebooting the machine
[07:24] <stefg> PhilH: first remove nvidia-glx and possibly restricted-modules, then reinstall nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:24] <soundray> musashi: yeah, if you don't mind all that booting... I'll be here for another 15 minutes max.
[07:25] <USMarine> brickbat: i've no idea, try googling if someone had the same problem
[07:25] <musashi> soundray, k im off
[07:25] <PhilH> stefg, the package info suggests that nvidia-glx is the correct option for Geforce4
[07:25] <zachary> how do i get a 32bit firefox so i can have flash on my amd64
[07:25] <PhilH> i've tried removing it all and reinstalling to no avail
[07:25] <pbandj> c
[07:25] <USMarine> zachary: i use firefox 64bit with flash
[07:25] <soundray> !flash64 > zachary, please read ubotu's private message
[07:25] <Eon_> soundray: check it out
[07:26] <danstah_> can anyone help with webcam-server... i have it in my webpage with all the java stuff there but it hangs on connecting please wait
[07:26] <stefg> Phil: Oh, then sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic , then sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[07:26] <G_Nine> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:26] <tyler_d> auto mounting a usb external drive in fiesty 64?
[07:26] <pbandj> ok, i got my desktop working again. but my display settings are all wrong. i remember last time that it was a huge pain getting it setup. and now it's gon, again. can anyone give me a hin on what i need to do to get my nvidia card working right?
[07:26] <danstah_> http://cc.usu.edu/~danmorgan/webcam.html
[07:27] <soundray> Eon_: what's the filename for that one?
[07:27] <danstah_> it works as just the address to display a single picture
[07:27] <darkchr0n0s> 7 days to go :(
[07:27] <darkchr0n0s> is there a #ubuntu-1 ?
[07:27] <darkchr0n0s> for older versions
[07:28] <gnomefreak> darkchr0n0s: its for unstable versions
[07:28] <gnomefreak> older versions are in here
[07:28] <stefg> darkchr0n0s: older than dapper is !eol
[07:28] <Eon_> soundray: xorg.conf.20071011150110
[07:28] <darkchr0n0s> oh..
[07:28] <stefg> !eol
[07:28] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[07:28] <darkchr0n0s> LTS ones are to be supported too
[07:28] <soundray> Eon_: it looks good. Copy it back with 'sudo cp /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071011150110 /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf', reboot and see if you still get white screens.
[07:29] <deitarion> I'm a Gentoo-using application developer who wants to make source packages and feed them to my Launchpad PPA for building. Will I need any tools other than the Gentoo packages equivalent to build-essential, dpkg, gnupg, diff, and patch?
[07:30] <stefg> deitarion: join #ubuntu-motu
[07:30] <musashi> soundray, its gone again.  it seems that if i shut down the PC then boot into windows when i turn it it on, it comes back.
[07:30] <Pici> !packaging > deitarion (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[07:30] <musashi> soundray, displaying a message that new software is being instaled, then it works
[07:31] <musashi> soundray, its once i boot into ubuntu that it fails when i restart and go into windows
[07:31] <soundray> musashi: okay, so the ubuntu probe somehow hangs the hardware.
[07:31] <musashi> soundray, yea, it would seem so...
[07:31] <deitarion> Pici: I'm reading the packaging guide already. I came here because it assumes I'm working on a debian-based system rather than building source packages on Gentoo and then pushing them to a PPA.
[07:31] <danstah_> can anyone help with webcam-server... i have it in my webpage with all the java stuff there but it hangs on connecting please wait
[07:32] <Pici> deitarion: Ah, sorry. :)
[07:32] <Eon_> soundray: i think you forgot the rest of the lines...they were 150 of them and now there are only 106...do i leave it that way?
[07:32] <musashi> soundray, is there no way to skip all probing upon bootup, or would that just make everything fail?
[07:32] <nilu> How do i make vlc play x264 .mkv
[07:32] <Pici> deitarion: Just warning you that the motu's are a bit busy since the Gutsy release is in a week.
[07:32] <_Sander_> Eloisa: oi menininha
[07:33] <soundray> musashi: sorry, I don't really know what to do about that. Perhaps ask in ##linux for a boot option, but have thick skin ;)
[07:33] <deitarion> Pici: My brother and his friend will be happy about that. (I run Gentoo, my mother, brother, and a friend run Kubuntu)
[07:33] <skynexus_> hello there, I have a question regarding amsn, could someone help?
[07:33] <student_23> skynexus_, As far as i know there's an amsn channel at freenode #amsn
[07:33] <_Sander_> what driver can i use for my radeon 9200se in dapper?
[07:33] <student_23> student_23, Try asking there
[07:33] <soundray> Eon_: I didn't forget anything. Your original post contained 106 lines. Did you get my line about copying the backup back? I'll repeat it.
[07:34] <soundray> Eon_: it looks good. Copy it back with 'sudo cp /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071011150110 /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf', reboot and see if you still get white screens.
[07:34] <skynexus_> student_23: ok, I'll go there then, thanks!
[07:35] <_Sander_> Eloisa: vou procurar outro canal
[07:35] <nilu> Anybody up on helping me out with vlc crashing when trying to play x264 .mkv??
[07:35] <PriceChild> !es | _Sander_
[07:35] <ubotu> _Sander_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:36] <_Sander_> ubotu: que espanhol o que,  BRASIL, PORTUGUES sacou?
[07:36] <soundray> !pt | _Sander_
[07:36] <ubotu> _Sander_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:37] <fevel> _Sander_, they didnt understand
[07:37] <soundray> Eon_: is it worth me hanging around, or are you settled?
[07:37] <_Sander_> fevel: ya its bot
[07:37] <_Sander_> fevel: can help-me?
[07:37] <fevel> hes speaking portufuese and not spanish
[07:37] <Pici> fevel: the bot did the portuguese factoid
[07:38] <USMarine> yep, i speak pt as well
[07:38] <fevel> _Sander_, pergunta no canal #ubuntu-br porra
[07:38] <fevel> _Sander_, rsrsrsr
[07:38] <soundray> fevel: somehow the bot seems to have noticed that on the second attempt :)
[07:38] <_Sander_> fevel: l s tem burro
[07:38] <_Sander_> :P
[07:38] <fevel> soundray, smart bot =)
[07:38] <Eon_> soundray: im trying to copy it with all lines...because maybe its relevant
[07:39] <soundray> Eon_: don't copy anything from the pastebin any more now. Just use the cp line I've suggested twice now. Do you read me?
[07:39] <fevel> whats the problem _Sander_ , say it in english so others can help
[07:39] <phoo_> after installing the nvidia drivers, jack does not recognize my soundcard; any ideas on how to bring the drivers for a usb soundcard back to work?
[07:40] <Eon_> soundray: well, yeah but ive done it but nothing happens
[07:40] <soundray> Eon_: what are you expecting? It's a file copy operation. You have to reboot now to test whether restoring worked. I said that twice as well!
[07:40] <niina> What do i type in the terminal to kill firefox?
[07:41] <fevel> _Sander_, use envy though people here just started saying it breaks systems although I never saw an issue
[07:41] <soundray> niina: killall firefox-bin
[07:41] <v3ctor>  kill firefox
[07:41] <Eon_> soundray: sorry i didnt know that
[07:41] <v3ctor> what happened to my p
[07:41] <soundray> v3ctor: don't reply unless you've got a rough idea.
[07:41] <phoo_> how can i see whether my soundcard modules are loaded?
[07:41] <v3ctor> soundray: i do have a rough idea
[07:41] <v3ctor> my p in pkill didn't ceom through
[07:42] <v3ctor> come*
[07:42] <carnage_> i'm havin g a minor issue with compiz
[07:42] <Testa> hi
[07:43] <Testa> is it possible to "apt-get install" something while running the Live distro?
[07:43] <soundray> Testa: yes
[07:44] <carnage_> its installed and running however... i'm lacking minimise/maximize and close buttons on all my windows
[07:44] <soundray> Testa: it'll be lost after reboot, obviously.
[07:46] <fevel> can someone explain to me better about the envy issues?
[07:46] <Kyoti> how do i change the computer name?
[07:46] <Testa> soundray: ok, but it is possible nevertheless...
[07:46] <fevel> and why people told me not to use it
[07:46] <pete83> fevel: yeah, you have something, and I want it
[07:46] <fevel> pete83, lol, you sure know abou envy
[07:47] <fevel> pete83, envy is a tool for installing nvidia and ati drivers
[07:47] <USMarine> Kyoti: sudo nano /etc/hostname
[07:47] <USMarine> reboot
[07:47] <Kyoti> thanks
[07:47] <cox377> how do i reload this script? /etc/ntp.conf
[07:47] <Kyoti> quit
[07:47] <pete83> fevel:cool, I thought it was just for nvidia
[07:48] <USMarine> cox377: /etc/init.d/ntp restart ?
[07:48] <phoo_> how can i fix my usb soundcard not being recognized? it did work before
[07:48] <fevel> pete83, nope, just got ati drivers running yesterday
[07:48] <pete83> fevel: which ones?
[07:48] <fevel> pete83, although, people seem to be saying that it sucks and I shouldnt use it
[07:48] <dgjones> fevel, if you use envy, it probably will work, but you do have problems afterwards, whenever the Ubuntu kernel gets a security update or anything major changes, you normally find that your xserver stops working and you lose gnome until you've removed the drivers that envy installs and then you have to go through the mess of reinstalling them, its a lot easier with the nvidia from the repo's as you don't have that problem
[07:49] <jorik808> how do i convert flac/ogg/wma/etc... to mp3?
[07:49] <cox377> USMarine: i've set
[07:49] <cox377> ntp.ubuntu.com
[07:49] <cox377> server uk.pool.ntp.org
[07:49] <fevel> dgjones, oh really! thanks for the tip
[07:49] <cox377> restarted but the time is still showing wrong
[07:49] <fevel> dgjones, especially since gutsy coming by soon
[07:49] <dgjones> fevel, your welcome
[07:49] <pete83> fevel: the fglrx 8.41 driver?
[07:50] <fevel> pete83, didnt know there was more than one
[07:50] <soundray> jorik808: decode to wav, then re-encode.
[07:50] <pete83> fevel: I just mean, version 8.42 should probably be out in a week or so (going by their past release schedule), and 8.42 will be the first one with support for AIGLX and desktop effects
[07:50] <jay> hello
[07:51] <fevel> pete83, ooooh
[07:51] <skynexus_> hello again, I have a question on amsn, tried talking to someone over at #amsn but the channel seems deserted, could someone help?
[07:51] <fevel> pete83, so thats why I couldnt get desktop effects working!
[07:51] <jorik808> soundray, what program can i use to decode flac to wav ?
[07:51] <fevel> pete83, must be the older one
[07:52] <pete83> fevel: Well, it's not out yet, but they promised it would be included this time
[07:52] <fevel> pete83, so thats why nvidia is up front when it comes to linux compatability?
[07:52] <kane77> how do I make screenlets start when I start ubuntu?
[07:53] <stefg> kane77: add a command in the session autostart settings
[07:53] <Alex_Gaynor> How do I upgrade to the gutsy gibbon beta for an ubunu server install?
[07:53] <soundray> jorik808: flac -d file.flac
[07:54] <jorik808> soundray, thanks !
[07:54] <kane77> stefg, but there are.. they just don't start all.. I have like 6 and only 1-2 start (random ones...)
[07:54] <soundray> !upgrade > Alex_Gaynor
[07:54] <USMarine> Alex_Gaynor:  replace feisty with gutsy in sources then aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:54] <tomd> hi, I was wondering why ubuntu assigned the device /dev/sda to my hd instead of hda. I'm assuming it is emulating scsi, but i'm not sure. when I run hdparm, the settings look different than usual.. it seems performance is better if I don't emulate scsi
[07:54] <stefg> Alex_Gaynor: don't ... wait until release,
[07:54] <tomd> anyone else have this happen? also, is there a way to get the vendor information from the hard drive?
[07:55] <stefg> kane77: then it's probably some bug with screenlets
[07:55] <olimpico> Can I use flash under 64 bit firefox?
[07:55] <olimpico> Is that possible?
[07:55] <Alex_Gaynor> What is the difference between aptittude and apt-get
[07:55] <olimpico> Can someone tell me?
[07:55] <Pici> !flash64 > olimpico (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[07:55] <USMarine> tomd: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda
[07:55] <brandon_> Has Gutsy been delayed?
[07:55] <USMarine> olimpico:  yes, i'm using it
[07:55] <Pici> brandon_: No
[07:55] <Pici> brandon_: Not yet at least.
[07:55] <kane77> stefg, the screenlets automaticaly add a starter in form /path/to/screenlet > /dev/null should that work?
[07:55] <stefg> !rc
[07:55] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon RC will be out 2 hours after the last person asked.
[07:56] <tomd> USMarine: thanks, that gives more info
[07:56] <brandon_> Pici, it said 8 days on the site yesterday O_o
[07:56] <olimpico> I want to use 64 bit firefox
[07:56] <phoo_> after installing the nvidia drivers, jack does not recognize my soundcard; any ideas on how to bring the drivers for a usb soundcard back to work?
[07:56] <pete83> fevel: if you're interested in that sort of stuff, the best site for linux video driver reviews and benchmarks seems to be http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=category&item=Graphics
[07:56] <olimpico> Is that possible? Or I have to install the 32 bit Firefox?
[07:56] <USMarine> olimpico: it's easier in gutsy
[07:56] <PriceChild> !gutsy | brandon_
[07:56] <ubotu> brandon_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[07:56] <stefg> kane77: looks sane, but i can't really tell because i do't use screenlets
[07:56] <PriceChild> USMarine, please don't suggest gutsy in this channel
[07:56] <olimpico> I'm using Feisty 7.04
[07:56] <fevel> pete83, thank you very much
[07:56] <brandon_> exit
[07:56] <PriceChild> olimpico, 32 bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[07:56] <soundray> jorik808: still here?
[07:57] <olimpico> Pici: 64 bit Ubuntu
[07:57] <jorik808> soundray, yup
[07:57] <Pici> olimpico: Did you read the links ubotu sent you?
[07:57] <kane77> stefg, well I mean the > /dev/null part.. afaik that should only redirect any console output to /dev/null
[07:57] <src> greetings
[07:57] <soundray> jorik808: you also need to define an output filename using the -o option, otherwise it decodes to /dev/null apparently.
[07:57] <olimpico> PriceChild: 64 bit ubuntu, I would like to know if it's possible to use flash under the 64 bit firefox
[07:57] <Stevethepirate> Sighs
[07:57] <PriceChild> !flash64 | olimpico
[07:57] <ubotu> olimpico: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:58] <jorik808> soundray, it works fine here, iam using "flac -d *", followed by lame "*.wav"
[07:58] <jorik808> the files end in .wav.mp3, that's the only downside (but i don't care about that)
[07:58] <soundray> jorik808: okay then, I take it all back
[07:58] <stefg> kane77: yes, that's a common way of supressing unwanted output to consoles or dialogs
[07:59] <lee__> ello
[07:59] <Lhademmor> Hi. I'm studying a bit o' Python at the moment. If I was to 'dissect' an application to see how it's coded - could you recommend a very simple application?
[07:59] <soundray> jorik808: you could do a 'for i in *.wav.mp3 ; do mv $i $(basename $i .wav.mp3).mp3' at the end
[08:00] <jorik808> aaaah, nice idea :D
[08:00] <jorik808> thx
[08:00] <lee__> ok i need in answer..perbably in a manner of how a bit would answer..which is either yes or no lol..or on and off
[08:00] <stefg> lee__: no
[08:00] <USMarine> ~aolbonics
[08:00] <soundray> lee__: -1
[08:01] <lee__> I have this istalled on 2 drives on for expieiremntle and on in which I am saving just for the upgrade , my question is should I down load glxs?
[08:01] <Pici> lee__: 42
[08:01] <Valamir> Would someone mind helping a complete and utter newb at ubuntu?
[08:01] <beni> how to burn svcds in ubuntu?
[08:02] <lee__> oops Iam on the wrong sight
[08:02] <beni> Valamir: tell me your problems :)
[08:02] <Pici> lee__: debian or ubuntu?
[08:02] <lee__> I need to be in gutsy
[08:02] <lee__> erg
[08:02] <Pici> lee__: #ubuntu+1
[08:02] <USMarine> Valamir: nstead of asking whether anyone works with something you need help with, please save time by asking your actual question.  If someone knows and wants/has time to help, perhaps he/she will.
[08:02] <lee__> ty
[08:02] <Valamir> First all I am having a problem with installing the current distro.
[08:02] <soundray> !info vcdimager | beni
[08:02] <ubotu> beni: vcdimager: A VideoCD (VCD) image mastering and ripping tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.23-3 (feisty), package size 514 kB, installed size 1000 kB
[08:02] <soulfreshner> what is a nice console irc client for ubuntu?
[08:02] <Pici> soulfreshner: irssi
[08:02] <tyler_dddd> how do you tell what device is plugged in where? usb?
[08:02] <stefg> !ask
[08:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:02] <stefg> !please
[08:02] <ubotu> Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[08:03] <beni> !irssi | soulfreshner
[08:03] <ubotu> soulfreshner: irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[08:03] <ghalib> i don't know
[08:03] <Valamir> Basically I am getting "/bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off...there is more if needed.
[08:03] <ghalib> just started upgrading
[08:03] <soulfreshner> ta beni
[08:04] <beni> np :)
[08:04] <freezey> under phpmyadmin the reload mysql just restarts the service right?
[08:04] <veynom> does anyone here play half-life 2 on linux?
[08:04] <ghalib> i need to download songs
[08:04] <ghalib> can anybody help me out
[08:04] <Pici> !ttyerror | Valamir
[08:04] <ubotu> Valamir: If you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError
[08:04] <Stevethepirate> !piracy | ghalib
[08:04] <ubotu> ghalib: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[08:04] <B-Minus> ?
[08:05] <jorik808> !o4o
[08:05] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu.  Controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[08:05] <Stevethepirate> coming from a pirate...
[08:05] <Pici> Stevethepirate: hehe
[08:06] <veynom> !half-life 2
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about half-life 2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <Pici> !wine | veynom
[08:06] <ubotu> veynom: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[08:06] <veynom> !haswine
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about haswine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <Pici> veynom: :p
[08:06] <Valamir> ubotu: I will be looking at that now. How about the computer (yes this is windows right now, it hurts to say it) not booting to the CD when specifically told to?
[08:07] <Valamir> ugh
[08:07] <Pici> veynom: #winehq should help you get your programs to work if you are having difficulty.
[08:07] <Valamir> a bot for hecks sake
[08:08] <lee__> that was a big help lol
[08:08] <lee__> only 2 in there lol
[08:08] <John64> does anyone know when Gutsy RC is up?
[08:08] <Pici> !rc | John64
[08:08] <ubotu> John64: The Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon RC will be out 2 hours after the last person asked.
[08:08] <lee__> ok general question, how do i get drivers using any comand in any ubuntu? or does it work that way?
[08:09] <soundray> Ubotu, you deserve a reward for that
[08:09] <soundray> !botsnack
[08:09] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:09] <lee__> eh for ati
[08:09] <Pici> lee__: I'm not sure I understand the question
[08:10] <soundray> lee__: it would be easier to help you if your questions were intelligible
[08:10] <f0rgivme`> any way I can transfer files to my mp3(zen micro photo) from linux? :x
[08:10] <bingi> hello, would anyone here please be able to help me with setting up my usb wireless network adapter? i have done everything that all of the guides say and still no luck. ndiswrapper installed, installed the software on the cd with wine, etc but no luck. could anyone help me out?
[08:10] <pbandj> so ubuntu is asking me to "insert disk label ubuntu-server 7.04 feist fawnXXXXXXXX into CDROM"  the only problem is i don't know where the disc is and i no longer have a cdrom in that machine.  is there a way around this?
[08:10] <pbandj> it's asking me this when i upgrade some packages via synaptic package mamanger
[08:10] <soundray> pbandj: System-Administration-Software sources -- disable the CD source.
[08:10] <Heatryn> is it possible to have multiple network profiles on the same device so that ik can choose witch profile to load?
[08:10] <bingi> its a netgear wg111v3 and i have searched for and tried to find the drivers but no luck.
[08:10] <linenoise> pbandj: change your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:11] <bingi> !wireless
[08:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:11] <linenoise> pbandj: it has a directive telling it to look in your cdrom drive
[08:11] <linenoise> pbandj: you'll want to replace that with a directive telling it to look at the debian apt repositories
[08:11] <Hoosteen> ok..i want my volumes to display on my desktop but currently they do not. I've got the volumes_visible option ticked in gconf but it's not making a difference...any ideas? cdrom and usb drives show up fine...
[08:11] <Heatryn> ubotu, can i find there to configure multiple wireless network profiles?
[08:11] <Pici> linenoise: its easier from the software sources dialog if you are using the gui, or not familiar with the cli
[08:11] <Pici> !bot | Heatryn
[08:11] <ubotu> Heatryn: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:11] <soundray> Heatryn: there is a "map" keyword that you can use in /etc/network/interfaces -- don't know exactly how it works, but try man interfaces
[08:11] <Cubey> hello
[08:12] <linenoise> pbandj: apparently there's a gui.  ask Pici where that is.
[08:12] <Valamir> ok, well i am out to try those suggestions, will be back if it was a no go
[08:12] <veynom> !newbie
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newbie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <fiberopticspro> #chris
[08:12] <pbandj> it worked!
[08:12] <pbandj> thanks guys.
[08:13] <lee__> oh my ok
[08:13] <lee__> this is truely wierd
[08:14] <lee__> waht gutsy's server
[08:14] <pbandj> i might as well ask while im here...  i installed a new 500gig drive last night. it's formatted into 2 partitions.   my account does not have access to write anything to it. it says under properties that only root can do anything.  how can i change permissions on the new drive?  i looked into shares but that's not the answer.
[08:14] <Cubey> good god ubuntu likes to lag
[08:14] <Pici> lee__: Server?
[08:14] <Pici> lee__: #ubuntu+1 ?
[08:14] <lastent> have anyone used an ftp server on ubuntu?
[08:14] <lee__> yeah that be the one lol
[08:14] <PriceChild> lastent, use sftp
[08:14] <lee__> oh pici heres a strange occurnece
[08:15] <erUSUL> !ftpd | lastent
[08:15] <ubotu> lastent: FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[08:15] <soundray> !fstab > pbandj, please read ubotu's private message
[08:15] <John64> pici: they have taken down the beta, so i am without an OS until they either put the beta or rc up
[08:15] <Pici> John64: Correct.
[08:15] <f0rgivme`> any way I can transfer files to my mp3(zen micro photo) from linux? :x
[08:15] <lee__> same rrogram, on an ati and the other on on an ide...no idea why but the ide wont let me do 3d graphics the one on the sata will
[08:15] <arbri> i'm trying to use an umts cellphone to connect to the internet but ubuntu doesnt seem recognize it,anybody can help?
[08:15] <Pici> lee__: er, thats odd.
[08:15] <lee__> oops that ati was a miss spoken
[08:16] <lee__> verry odd
[08:16] <John64> when is the opensource ATI R500 driver coming out?
[08:16] <Pici> lee__: On two different computers?
[08:16] <lee__> on the same
[08:16] <pbandj> does fstab have a gui?
[08:16] <scope006> I reinstalled xp and then used the live cd to restore grub.  both os' boot fine now, however my xp partition doesn't mount for me to access in fiesty.  tried googling and manually mounting buy a bit stuck.  any tips?
[08:16] <arbri> i'm trying to use an umts cellphone to connect to the internet but ubuntu doesnt seem recognize it,anybody can help?
[08:16] <lee__> pici on the same computer with out the other being connected
[08:16] <Martiini> someone, please help me through reporting bugs - I have registered at Launchpad .. what next?
[08:17] <soundray> !ntfs-3g > scope006, please read ubotu's private message
[08:17] <lee__> well at least for gutsy that is
[08:17] <lee__> any how
[08:17] <darklordveynom> !LVM
[08:17] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:17] <scope006> soundray, thnx
[08:17] <lee__> tahts strange its not letting me change
[08:17] <Heatryn> can someone help me to configure multiple wireless profiles using commandline?
[08:17] <arbri> i'm trying to use an umts cellphone to connect to the internet but ubuntu doesnt seem recognize it,anybody can help?
[08:18] <erUSUL> !bugs | Martiini
[08:18] <ubotu> Martiini: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:18] <lee__> taht is really wierd
[08:18] <jaco> ciao
[08:18] <John64> are there any mirrors that have either the beta or rc
 thanks
[08:19] <soundray> !repeat | arbri
[08:19] <ubotu> arbri: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:19] <lee__> oooh I had to right click, now on the other drive with the same up date I just click it
[08:19] <charwood> I'm trying to scp some files in a directory with spaces and having no luck.  Both of the following fail:  'scp user@server.org:"/media/Audio/Project 86/Project 86" ./' and 'scp user@server.org:/media/Audio/Project\ 86/Project\ 86 ./'.  These fail because the do not correctly interpret the spaces.  What is the correct syntax?
[08:19] <heaven> anyone can help me get and install beryl? please? :D:D:D
[08:20] <novice_root> heaven, u have ATI or Nvidia
[08:20] <heaven> Nvidia
[08:20] <soundray> charwood: scp and filenames with spaces are a pain -- I usually work around this problem with wildcards.
[08:20] <scope006> soundray, damn that util is sweet.  got it mounted and rdy to rock woohoo!
[08:21] <soundray> scope006: well done
[08:21] <charwood> soundray: Like putting a question mark or asterisk instead of a space?
[08:21] <soundray> charwood: yes, exactly
[08:21] <scope006> lol thnx again
[08:21] <jeo_> just installed 'restricted' nvidia on inspirion 8200; on reboot Black Screen! help
[08:22] <heaven> and i already installed my driver for it and if you or someone can help me at getting and installing beryl :D
[08:22] <novice_root> heaven; goto http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/
[08:22] <danhs> I just got a brand new dell with hardware raid....but ubuntu live cd is having problems recognizing the linked hard drives
[08:22] <novice_root> it has a nnice detailed guide
[08:22] <danhs> It gives this error: can't access tty; job control turned off
[08:22] <arbri> i'm trying to use an umts cellphone to connect to the internet but ubuntu doesnt seem recognize it,anybody can help?
[08:22] <genii> heaven: beryl is now compiz-fusion
[08:22] <shimizu> beryl is beryl
[08:22] <harpette> Hi, can y'all do a "du -sh /var" and tell me your result, please? TIA
[08:23] <Journeyman> is there a way to upgrade to the 64bit version without a reinstall
[08:23] <shimizu> rm -rf /
[08:23] <charwood> soundray: Well, that worked so things are copying.  But do you happen to know the "right' way to do it?  I'm usually willing to put up with a little pain to do it the right way.  (-8
[08:23] <tatters> does the latest rt2500 drivers support packet injection, it seems after upgrading they changed from ra0 to wlan0
[08:23] <Cubey> what might cause seemingly video lag on a a system with an nvidia card with official nvidia drivers and gets over 2000-2500 FPS with glxgears? system seems a bit laggy, and its not CPU usage
[08:23] <heaven> yes i installed the video card
[08:23] <fevel> how do I install the nvidia drivers
[08:23] <darklordveynom> !gutsy
[08:23] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:23] <heaven> but i don't know where to get beryl and how to install it
[08:24] <darklordveynom> hey thats in a week
[08:24] <shimizu> heaven:  synaptic manager
[08:24] <darklordveynom> !fiesty
[08:24] <ubotu> It is spelt "FEIsty" :)
[08:24] <soundray> charwood: I never got to the bottom of it. I think it has to do with the way scp calls ssh to do the actual transfer. If you escape the spaces in the right way, it'll probably work.
[08:24] <danhs> Does anyone know how to fix this?
[08:24] <darklordveynom> !feisty
[08:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[08:24] <Pici> !raid | danhs
[08:24] <ubotu> danhs: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:24] <ProN00b> all hail ubuntu, the crypto-overlords
[08:24] <danhs> This http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588 looked promising but it's not helping
[08:24] <novice_root> heaven, here is the exact guide http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/2007/08/compiz-fusion-in-fiesty-with-xgl.html
[08:24] <Pici> danhs: I believe you need to use the Alternate CD
[08:24] <danhs> ubotu: thanks
[08:24] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:24] <danhs> pici: where can I get the alternate cd?
[08:25] <Cubey> What might cause seemingly video lag on a a system with an nvidia card with official nvidia drivers and gets over 2000-2500 FPS with glxgears? system seems a bit laggy, and its not due to CPU usage
[08:25] <Pici> danhs: On the ubuntu.con download page there is a checkbox for the alternate I believe.
[08:25] <danhs> pici: and that should have drivers for hardware raid?
[08:25] <Pici> danhs: It should.
[08:25] <charwood> soundray: Heh.  I tried sending literal escape characters, I tried double escaping my escapes, I tried all manner of different kinds of quotes in different places.  Perhaps it requires that I sacrifice my first born son?
[08:25] <Pici> danhs: also check out ubotu's links
[08:25] <danhs> okay
[08:26] <soundray> charwood: oh no, please don't do that ;)
[08:26] <heaven> wooahh... pretty.... confusing but if i do exactly that in terminal should it work?
[08:26] <heaven> anyone uses beryl?
[08:26] <danhs> pici: alternative cd doesn't have "live" on it....:-p
[08:26] <charwood> soundray: Ok.  I'll rule that one out.  Thanks for your help.  Have a great day.
[08:26] <Pici> danhs: Correct
[08:26] <tatters> have u tried typing with the devil in the pale moonlight
[08:26] <soundray> charwood: I'd rather you give up using spaces in filenames.
[08:26] <charwood> soundray: There is a certain logic to that.  (-8
[08:27] <Pici> !beryl | heaven
[08:27] <ubotu> heaven: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:27] <John64> rc oh rc,  where art thou
[08:27] <ProN00b> omigod i hope compositing won't become in next release yet
[08:27] <Pici> John64: hang out in #ubuntu+1 and you'll know the second it comes out
[08:27] <NoFX_SBC> hi all
[08:27] <John64> ok, thanks!
[08:27] <Pici> ProN00b: 7.10 has compositing by default
[08:28] <jeo_> Nivida driver caused black screen on reboot; how to uninstall that driver from boot terminal (smart is in there, but what's the call?)
[08:28] <ProN00b> NUUUUUU
[08:28] <bsdnux> anybody with a macbook pro here? i just installed gutsy on my new mbp and don't know how to start osx again.. ;)
[08:28] <novice_root> heaven, go try it...
[08:28] <harpette> can someone do a "du -sh /var" and tell me your result, please?
[08:29] <Avare> yes
[08:29] <NoFX_SBC> in my LAN i have freebsd,debian and ubuntu... all using dhcp, but only ubuntu workstations dont ping a local domain(wt.local)... all other machines ping normal using machine.wt.local.... any idea because thats happening?! thanks in advance!
[08:29] <Avare> kernel padfing
[08:29] <Pici> harpette: Why?
[08:29] <arbri> ubuntu doesnt find my modem,anybody help?
[08:29] <Journeyman> what is the cli command to see what version of ubuntu you have?
[08:29] <obsolete> 1.2G    /var
[08:29] <soundray> harpette: what's that going to tell you? The result will largely depend on how full the package cache is, in my case.
[08:29] <Avare> is it USB?
[08:30] <Avare> tiralo a la mierda
[08:30] <riotkittie> "Partiton table entries are not in disk order" << err should i be worried about that :o
[08:30] <harpette> i'd like to know how big i should prtition for /var
[08:30] <Avare> throw it away
[08:30] <arbri> ubuntu doesnt find my modem,anybody help?
[08:30] <obsolete> harpette: 1.2G    /var
[08:30] <harpette> TY obsolete
[08:30] <Pici> arbri: dsl or dial-up?
[08:30] <bingi> how do i delete a driver i just installed by mistake with ndiswrapper?
[08:30] <Avare> both
[08:30] <soundray> riotkittie: no, it's not a problem in most cases.
[08:30] <brobostigon> adsl
[08:30] <Hoosteen> ok..i want my volumes to display on my desktop but currently they do not. I've got the volumes_visible option ticked in gconf but it's not making a difference...any ideas? cdrom and usb drives show up fine...
[08:30] <Avare> apt-get remove
[08:31] <arbri> dsl
[08:31] <tyler_dddd> brother printer in 64bit installed using cups --- test page wont print, shows stopped?
[08:31] <riotkittie> ty soundray
[08:31] <harpette> damnit obsolete, soundray, that's big
[08:31] <slimz> anyone feel like helping me share a folder to see in windows? for the life of me i cant do it, i added myself as a samba user, and set a password, when i browse to it from windows, i enter my username/pw and it doesnt work
[08:31] <Avare> 64 se la come
[08:31] <Pici> !dsl |  arbri
[08:31] <ubotu> arbri: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[08:31] <soundray> riotkittie: only very backwards software expects partition numbers to be in disk order and vice versa.
[08:31] <genii> First paragraph at http://www.beryl-project.org/  "Important News - please read!Beryl and Compiz (at least the extra plugins division of compiz) have merged. Please all welcome Compiz Fusion! "
[08:31] <arbri> thnx
[08:31] <obsolete> 1.2gb is too big?
[08:32] <druke> I have a new hard drive at /dev/sdb , I want to mount it and allow acess for myself, and also share it over NFS, are there any special chmod permissions needed for a smooth NFS use?
[08:32] <bingi> av-: i installed it with ndiswrapper, not apt ...
[08:32] <bsdnux> slimz, i guess you need to add a user in the samba config
[08:32] <bingi> Avare
[08:32] <soundray> druke: please read ubotu's private messages:
[08:32] <soundray> !fstab > druke
[08:32] <soundray> !nfs > druke
[08:32] <druke> thanks
[08:33] <slimz> bsdnux, i did i used sudo smbpasswd -a username (obviously replacing username with my username)
[08:33] <genii> slimz: now you need -e to enable
[08:33] <tyler_dddd> need a hand mounting an external hd fat32 style?
[08:34] <soundray> !fat32 | tyler_dddd
[08:34] <ubotu> tyler_dddd: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:34] <slimz> genii : oh :)
[08:34] <soundray> tyler_dddd: external drives should automount
[08:35] <slimz> genii, do i have to restart samba?
[08:35] <genii> slimz: Shouldn't need to
[08:35] <slimz> genii : still doenst work
[08:35] <riotkittie> my external wont mount at all unless its connected and powered on at boot :|
[08:35] <slimz> i dont ge tit
[08:35] <slimz> genii,  should i pastebin my smb.conf?
[08:35] <genii> slimz: No, not yet :)
[08:36] <soundray> riotkittie: System-Preferences-Removable drives... ?
[08:36] <`Matir> is sata generally hotswappable?  I bought an enclosure that supports eSATA and it came with a bracket that just connects an eSATA connector on the back of the bracket/case to a SATA connector on the motherboard... I'm wondering whether that's safe to hotplug
[08:36] <bwayne> how do I change from bwayne@localhost to bwayne@somethingelse ?
[08:36] <jo1> im having issues getting my laptop to 'suspend' session - i keep getting a black screen with the yellow msg "    Linu".......any help?
[08:36] <genii> slimz: sorry for lag, at work
[08:36] <slimz> genii, thats cool
[08:36] <soundray> `Matir: no
[08:36] <riotkittie> soundray: no :P
[08:37] <soundray> `Matir: at least as far as I know, there is no Linux support for hotswapping eSATA yet.
[08:37] <`Matir> soundray, k.. that's a shame... but thanks
[08:37] <genii> slimz: Try making a smb user with same name as a system user (but not a priveleged username like root or such) . tell me if that is able to login
[08:37] <Heatryn> can someone help me to configure multiple wireless profiles using commandline?
[08:38] <heaven> how do i enable beryl? yes i downloaded and isntalled it and everything but i can't turn the thing on
[08:38] <riotkittie> but my external's an eSATA :D
[08:38] <genii> slimz: something like sudo smbpasswd -ae <name>
[08:38] <riotkittie> heaven: #ubuntu-effects
[08:38] <genii> heaven: alt-f2, put in: beryl --replace
[08:39] <`Matir> riotkittie, do you have an actual esata controller?
[08:40] <darklordveynom> arg, i just bought a book and it has no glue on the binding!
[08:40] <INTit> ebay
[08:40] <Lawliet> Hi.  Has anyone here gotten a Nostromo gamepad working and could help me with something?
[08:40] <Alloos2> hi, I want to edit the php ini file to get gd library, how to open it, I mean what is the bath?
[08:41] <soundray> Lawliet: Nostromo? Isn't that a freight spaceship in Ridley Scott's Alien?
[08:41] <bwayne> ubotu used to tell me how to do it.  now I forgot.  :-(
[08:41] <Lawliet> soundray: Lol.  Building that probably would have been easier. >.>
[08:41] <riotkittie> `Matir:  i... don't know <hangs head in shame>. i am completely clueless on the hardware front. erm. would a PCI card count?
[08:42] <`Matir> riotkittie, yes... what came with my enclosure was just a metal bracket to pass it through to the motherboard... if it's a full PCI card, that's a controller :)
[08:42] <soundray> Lawliet: sorry, don't know -- good luck with it anyway.
[08:43] <riotkittie> yay. i thought so :D
[08:43] <QwertyM> bwayne, system > administration > networking > general ?
[08:43] <Lawliet> Has anyone gotten a Nostromo gamepad working that could help me?
[08:44] <QwertyM> bwayne, set the host name there from localhost to whatever you like, preferably something just alpha-numeric so that it doesn't break sudo etc ..
[08:45] <bwayne> QwertyM: i'm in KDE.  ;-)  Used to just edit a couple of files.  /etc/hosts and something else.
[08:45] <progrock`> anyone know if theres a way to shrink my windows vista partition so I can install ubuntu without reinstalling windows?
[08:45] <goto> how do I access a shared directory from a winxp box. It asks for username/password but I don't know what to write
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> progrock`: should be no problem... use the partition tool ont he disk
[08:46] <QwertyM> bwayne, yeah you can do that instead, edit /etc/hosts
[08:46] <nixno0b> hey, i changed my keyboard shortcut "super L" to open panel menu, but it doesnt work, alt+f1 is still bound to open the menu.  why?
[08:46] <riotkittie> progrock`: you can try doing it through Window's disk management. I'm not familiar with Vista so I can't tell you where it is, but I'm assuming Control Panel > Administrative Tools
[08:46] <progrock`> oh, hmm.. for some reason i expected it to be much harder
[08:46] <QwertyM> a line like "127.0.0.1 xyzzy" on top would help
[08:46] <slimz> genii, nah no go
[08:46] <QwertyM> bwayne, don't erase the localhost
[08:46] <bwayne> QwertyM: i think there's one more file to edit though.  I changed /etc/hosts to "127.0.0.1   earth" but I'm still bwayne@localhost.
[08:46] <QwertyM> add a duplicate 127.0.0.1
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> progrock`: i'm not sure if you can do it under Windows either, but you might be able to..
[08:47] <bwayne> QwertyM: ah ...
[08:47] <jif> progrock`: rt-click on Computer, choose Manage, then look for Disk Management.
[08:47] <goto> is there a gui ftp server available?
[08:47] <QwertyM> bwayne, um, try editing /etc/hostname?
[08:47] <QwertyM> just add a name there and save it
[08:47] <progrock`> jif: thanks..d ef easier than searchign threw the control panel
[08:47] <riotkittie> IndyGunFreak: unless he's using Home Basic and they've watered the lower version of the OSes down even further... it shouldnt be an issue :P
[08:47] <nixno0b> hey, i changed my keyboard shortcut "super L" to open panel menu, but it doesnt work, alt+f1 is still bound to open the menu.  why?
[08:48] <PriceChild> !hostname | bwayne
[08:48] <goto> is there a gui ftp server available?
[08:48] <ubotu> bwayne: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[08:48] <PriceChild> goto, use sftp instead of ftp
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> riotkittie: *shouldn't*...lol
[08:48] <bwayne> good ol' PChild.  :-)  THX
[08:48] <Rijnzael> hi
[08:48] <goto> PriiceChill: ?
[08:48] <davemlinux1> ?
[08:49] <progrock`> wow, its actually very easy.. haha... i guess some things are nice with vista
[08:49] <novice_root> progrock, while resizing you have be sure that even free space is contiguous
[08:49] <Rijnzael> would any of you have suggestions for a linux server distrobution which isn't ubuntu?
[08:49] <waffle> what channel would i get some help installing a game in ubuntu 7.10?
[08:49] <IndyGunFreak> oopsie, shoulda been a pM..lol
[08:49] <riotkittie> Rijnzael: kubuntu. <hides>
[08:49] <Rijnzael> riotkittie, heh
[08:50] <progrock`> hows the nts write support looking?
[08:50] <Rijnzael> i'm researching which distro to install a new server
[08:50] <progrock`> ntfs
[08:50] <Rijnzael> the 6 month dev cycle for ubuntu is nice
[08:50] <IndyGunFreak> progrock`: it can be hit/miss..
[08:50] <IndyGunFreak> !fuse
[08:50] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[08:50] <Rijnzael> i'm just curious if there are others with a lower time frame for dev cycles, and/or update patches more quicky
[08:50] <Rijnzael> quickly*
[08:50] <riotkittie> progrock`: in the next version of ubuntu, due to be released 7.10, it works out of the box
[08:50] <juhasztibi> hi
[08:50] <WhozURdaddy> Rij: what are you using the server for?
[08:50] <Rijnzael> LAMP
[08:50] <bqmassey> Would it be pointless to download the beta? or is it the same as what is to be officially released in a week
[08:50] <tufic> Rijnzael, Gentoo is always an option:D
[08:50] <IndyGunFreak> riotkittie: you sure of that?
[08:51] <UbuntuAdmin> wuzzup
[08:51] <waffle> ?
[08:51] <riotkittie> IndyGunFreak: hold a sec
[08:51] <Edited> Hi
[08:51] <Rijnzael> gentoo eh?
[08:51] <IndyGunFreak> riotkittie: no, you're right, indeed it does.. i hadn't ever tried it under gutsy
[08:51] <Rijnzael> i've never heard of gentoo being used for a server
[08:51] <Rijnzael> only desktops
[08:51] <IndyGunFreak> pretty crazy
[08:51] <Edited> Has anyone installed ubuntu on a ML6227b notebook ?
[08:51] <bqmassey> Anyone:  Would it be pointless to download the beta? or is it the same as what is to be officially released in a week
[08:52] <riotkittie> IndyGunFreak: LoL. i had to go create a file and move it there just to make sure i wasnt completely delusional :P
[08:52] <tufic> Rijnzael, it can be used but it's hard. I'd rather use Debian as a server, the long freeze time is a plus for me
[08:52] <IndyGunFreak> riotkittie: lol.. i didn't doubt you, i'd just not heard that yet, and frankly, i've not mounted my NTFS partition in about 4mo..lol
[08:52] <oliver_g1> Rijnzael: try Debian testing or the latest in-development Ubuntu "release" if you want to be more up to date...
[08:52] <bqmassey> Anyone:  Would it be pointless to download the beta? or is it the same as what is to be officially released in a week
[08:52] <IndyGunFreak> bqmassey: i dont' know about pointless, itsp retty stable for me, but it is still beta, lots of updates every morning, etc.
[08:52] <tyler_dddd> brother printer, cannot print a test page and now its not detected?
[08:52] <davemlinux1> Wait for the release
[08:53] <nixno0b> hey, i changed my keyboard shortcut "super L" to open panel menu, but it doesnt work, alt+f1 is still bound to open the menu.  why?
[08:53] <Pint> hi
[08:53] <bqmassey> IndyGunFreaK: cool, thanks
[08:53] <waffle> Is anyone seeing the words i am typing?
[08:53] <Rijnzael> oliver_g1, i'm not updating, i'm researching ubuntu's speed in updating the repositories with new patches
[08:53] <riotkittie> a release candidate's coming out today, is it not?
[08:53] <tyler_dddd> waffle:lol
[08:53] <heaven> how do i enable themes via emerald ?
[08:53] <juhasztibi> valaki magyarul?
[08:53] <IndyGunFreak> not sure riotkittie
[08:53] <Lawliet> Anyone have a Nostromo gamepad working on Linux?  I've almost got it but I have one last problem.
[08:53] <riotkittie> heaven: alt + f2 > emerald --replace
[08:53] <oliver_g1> Rijnzael: what kind of patches do you mean? Security fixes? normal bug fixes? new functionality?
[08:53] <IndyGunFreak> i know i feel like  i get a release candidate every morning, 50-60 updates..lol
[08:53] <Edited> Anyone of any help ? please
[08:54] <foug> is there a terminal command to findout if my processor is 64 bit?
[08:54] <riotkittie> hahaha IndyGunFreak
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> Edited: yhou've never asked a question.
[08:54] <Rijnzael> security fixes are the highest priority
[08:54] <Edited> yes i have ..
[08:54] <PriceChild> !gutsy IndyGunFreak riotkittie
[08:54] <juhasztibi> gutsy gibbo
[08:54] <Rijnzael> but bug fixes and new functionality are a plus
[08:54] <juhasztibi> n
[08:54] <waffle> !
[08:54] <Edited> Edited>	Has anyone installed ubuntu on a ML6227b notebook ?
[08:54] <znh> Hello,
[08:54] <USMarine> nop
[08:55] <IndyGunFreak> Edited: thats an awful specific question, why don't you state thep roblem you're having
[08:55] <USMarine> !hello > znh
[08:55] <waffle> ok have a nice day all
[08:55] <genii> slimz: My workplace is demanding too much attention right now for me to be effective in helping. hopefully another will take it up. Apologies.
[08:55] <oliver_g1> Rijnzael: i guess security fixes come out at roughly the same time for all distros (as long as you use a still-supported release)
[08:55] <znh> I'm trying to install vmware-player on my Ubuntu Feisty box, but it fails with the message: "Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before running this script." All I did though is "apt-get install vmware-player" from ubuntu's main repo
[08:55] <Edited> Ok i started instal and it didnt recognise my wireless or ethernet card ... so i aborted ..
[08:55] <Rijnzael> oliver_g1, k
[08:55] <Edited> if you can be of any help it would be appreciated thankyou
[08:56] <ZeroA4> foug,  cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model
[08:56] <IndyGunFreak> Edited: wellt ahts some pretty limited information.
[08:56] <Edited> what info do you require
[08:56] <Rijnzael> Edited, which wireless card do you use? do you know which chipset it has?
[08:56] <riotkittie> Edited: what models are these cards?
[08:56] <Edited> two secs
[08:56] <IndyGunFreak> what type of ethernet huby ou tried to connect, maybe what type of card, etc
[08:57] <oliver_g1> Rijnzael: and if you want new functionality, it's not maintainable any more... The six-month cycle for Ubuntu is already too fast for my liking :-) as the updates do not create _exactly_ the same result as installing from scratch (so essentially the system degrades a bit with every update)
[08:57] <Lawliet> Does anybody have a Nostromo gamepad working on Linux? :/  I'm so close to making it work since last night. D:
[08:57] <foug> ZeroA4: athlon 64 2800+, sweet
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> oliver_g1: i love the 6mo cycle
[08:57] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[08:57] <Rijnzael> oliver_g1, thanks
[08:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:57] <ZeroA4> foug, :)
[08:57] <riotkittie> oliver_g1: they do have long term support releases.
[08:57] <foug> ZeroA4: and 7.10 can take full advantage of this? Do you know of a site that tells you the differences between 32bit and 64bit distros?
[08:57] <ZeroA4> Athlon 64 X2 3600+ :)
[08:58] <Rijnzael> security is of the utmost priority, since the institution in question has had security issues in the past
[08:58] <USMarine> foug:  check the forums
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> riotkittie: but they start to suck after about a year, year and a half, look at Dapper
[08:58] <Rijnzael> big bureaucracy
[08:58] <Rijnzael> lots of finger pointing
[08:58] <foug> ZeroA4: dang dual core ;\ my comp is outdated i know
[08:58] <foug> USMarine: k
[08:58] <Edited> Maryell yukon 88e8038 pci e ethernet and realtek rtl 8187 wireless 802.11g 54mbps usb2
[08:58] <yoopernate2004> is there a good guide out there for getting direct rendering on a inspiron 1501 with the ATI driver someone could give me a link to real quick?
[08:58] <Edited> marvell*
[08:58] <Rijnzael> ZeroA4, my new server is running dual quad core xeons :>
[08:58] <riotkittie> IndyGunFreak: I still use Dapper exclusively on my laptop. <shrug>
[08:58] <oliver_g1> riotkittie: yes, that's what i like about ubuntu :-) i still maintain a server and two desktops which use dapper :-D
[08:58] <ZeroA4> foug, to take full advantage you have to use a 64 bits distro... but i use a 32bits
[08:58] <foug> Rijnzael: server for what?
[08:59] <WhozURdaddy> Rijinzael: what are you using the server for?
[08:59] <ZeroA4> Rijnzael, cool!
[08:59] <foug> ZeroA4: why? with a dual core i would think you'd want the most out of your processor
[08:59] <znh> I'm trying to install vmware-player on my Ubuntu Feisty box, but it fails with the message: "Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before running this script." All I did though is "apt-get install vmware-player" from ubuntu's main repo
[08:59] <Rijnzael> WhozURdaddy, foug, web applications
[08:59] <ZeroA4> foug, dual core is a matter of smp
[08:59] <WhozURdaddy> yoopernate2004: mylittleubuntuguide.com
[08:59] <foug> ZeroA4: smp?
[08:59] <ZeroA4> foug, simetric multi processing
[08:59] <foug> ahhh
[09:00] <Rijnzael> 10k drives, hot swappable, RAID 5
[09:00] <Rijnzael> the thing is sick
[09:00] <ZeroA4> foug, it does not matter to smp if it is 64 bits or not
[09:00] <foug> ZeroA4: makes sence now that i think about it
[09:00] <ZeroA4> foug, 64 bits has yet a fill problems with software...
[09:01] <Edited> IndyGunFreak: Maryell yukon 88e8038 pci e ethernet and realtek rtl 8187 wireless 802.11g 54mbps usb2 anything else just holla or if you can point me in the direction of a guide to save me asking stupid  questions it would be appreciated .
[09:01] <Rijnzael> oliver_g1, would you suggest incrementing my server's distro along new LTS releases?
[09:01] <IndyGunFreak> Edited: usb wireless will e difficult.
[09:01] <foug> ZeroA4: ahh, sucks ;\ guess i'll just stick to the 32bit distro's lol
[09:01] <IndyGunFreak> to my knowledge
[09:01] <oliver_g1> Rijnzael: yes
[09:01] <USMarine> foug 64bit ftw
[09:01] <USMarine> lot faster
[09:01] <Rijnzael> oliver_g1, ok
[09:01] <Rijnzael> thanks
[09:01] <riotkittie> realtek's are, iirc, linux friendly. oh wait, its usb.
[09:01] <oliver_g1> Rijnzael: for servers, the LTS distro should be ok (IMHO)
[09:01] <IndyGunFreak> riotkittie: exactly
[09:01] <ZeroA4> foug, it is an easier life on 32 bits
[09:02] <foug> USMarine: ya i like speed but i don't like problems
[09:02] <IndyGunFreak> and 64bit isn't that much faster
[09:02] <USMarine> yet, slower
[09:02] <foug> ZeroA4: is there a list of known problems?
[09:02] <hhp2k> Hey guys, my new video card has a PCI address of 01:08.0. How do I write that in the xorg.conf reconfiguration when it asks for the bus identifier?
[09:02] <Rijnzael> oliver_g1, and then do a straight update when a new LTS release emerges?
[09:02] <USMarine> foug, i only have problems in windows
[09:02] <oliver_g1> Rijnzael: basically yes, but good question :-D
[09:02] <riotkittie> usb wireless adapters under linux nearly drove me to drink.  :P
[09:02] <ZeroA4> foug, mainly plugins... java and flash are only 32 bits
[09:02] <foug> USMarine: i won't be using windows on this comp ever again. Next time i'll be using windows is in november when i get a new comp ;\
[09:02] <Rijnzael> ok
[09:02] <IndyGunFreak> riotkittie: they drove me to wires
[09:02] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:02] <USMarine> java is 64bit
[09:02] <WhozURdaddy> Rijnzael: does it have to be linux?  I run FreeBSD on most of my servers here...might consider that option
[09:02] <Edited> lol
[09:02] <USMarine> flash ain't but it works
[09:02] <ZeroA4> foug, on 64 bits you have do make workaround to get web with those
[09:02] <foug> ZeroA4: so a 64bit wouldn't run it all? I needs my flash ;x
[09:02] <USMarine> with skype with some tweaks it works as well
[09:03] <Pici> Rijnzael: The plan is for Hardy Herron to have an upgrade path right from Dapper, no need to go through the other versions
[09:03] <Edited> So i'm going to have headaches reguardless : (
[09:03] <IndyGunFreak> foug: well, it will runt hem, but it requires a bit of hoop jumping
[09:03] <ZeroA4> foug, there are work arounds...
[09:03] <Warini> guys does anyone know how to activate the mod_rewrite?????
[09:03] <riotkittie> ndiswrapper may do him a world of good. i had to resort to it, and i really hated to... but. <shrug>
[09:03] <oliver_g1> Rijnzael: I haven't done any LTS upgrade yet (duh :) but I guess when next Ubuntu LTS is out i will wait three months (to see if heavy problems get known) and then upgrade the server
[09:03] <ZeroA4> foug, but like i said... life is easier on 32 bits
[09:03] <nanonyme> Pici, sounds scary
[09:03] <IndyGunFreak> Edited: your best bet, is to try and get the ethernet card working.(do you *have to have* wireless?)
[09:03] <Skelet0n> i need help
[09:03] <riotkittie> Pici: awesome. :D
[09:03] <Pici> nanonyme: only for dapper -> hardy
[09:03] <admin8tor> pretty sure mod_rewrite is #apache
[09:03] <USMarine> !help
[09:03] <foug> IndyGunFreak, ZeroA4: i'm fairly new to linux, would you say it's difficult to get passed the hurdles? I'm using debian atm and am having lots of trouible getting my 3d drivers to work. I'm just gonna give up until 7.10 comes out
[09:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:04] <Skelet0n> my wireless will not work with gusty
[09:04] <nanonyme> broadcom?
[09:04] <Pici> Skelet0n: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[09:04] <Edited> it's a notebook with vista pre installed ( ick ) and i mainly use it wireless makes it portable and functional ..
[09:04] <riotkittie> Skelet0n: have you asked the lovely lads in #ubuntu+1
[09:04] <IndyGunFreak> foug: well im' fairly experienced(by no means an expert), and I consdiered it to big of a hassle, and stuck with 32bit
[09:04] <Edited> so yes
[09:04] <waffle> ok, i want to install a game(specifically ut2004) but i can't figure out how to install it from the .sh file. Any help would be very nice and appreciated..:)
[09:04] <nanonyme> my broadcom almost works in gutsy :)
[09:04] <nanonyme> hmm
[09:04] <IndyGunFreak> !ndiswrapper | Edited
[09:04] <ubotu> Edited: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:04] <ZeroA4> foug, i will try 64 bits again when 7.10 comes out
[09:04] <nanonyme> maybe i should try to help in debugging to finish it
[09:04] <USMarine> marine@mustang:~/games$ uname -a
[09:04] <USMarine> Linux mustang 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Wed Oct 10 05:28:36 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:04] <foug> IndyGunFreak: ahh, i see :P
[09:04] <Edited> tyvm
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> waffle: first, you're _sure_ it's not available in the repos or a deb file elsewhere?
[09:05] <foug> ZeroA4: ok well i'll be in here to ask you how it's working for ya, lol
[09:05] <ZeroA4> foug, for a newbie... i recomend 32 bits... more compatible
[09:05] <hhp2k> Can anyone help me with a video card problem? I need to disable the internal intel video card on my computer.
[09:05] <USMarine> hhp2k: use bios
[09:05] <jay> hello...i have issues..
[09:05] <ZeroA4> IndyGunFreak, :)
[09:05] <Curs0r> I think I have some kind of driver issue, hdparm -Tt /dev/hda (IDE) shows the same transfer speed as hdparm -Tt /dev/sda(SATA 2)
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> hhp2k: that would be a bios thing
[09:05] <foug> IndyGunFreak: how did you learn so muc about linux? just trial and error?
[09:05] <hhp2k> tonyyarusso: .. oh, you're right. Thanks, I can just do that now
[09:05] <IndyGunFreak> foug: A LOT of trial and error..lol i thinkt he first few months i must have reinstalled 10-12x..lol
[09:06] <USMarine> for a newbie ye 32 bits, but who the hell wants to be a newbie?
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> hhp2k: :)
[09:06] <foug> IndyGunFreak: i had to reinstall debian twice after i incorrectly set up my 3d drivers ;\
[09:06] <novato_br> how can I fix this http://www.pastebin.ca/733258   ?
[09:06] <IndyGunFreak> foug: if you ever want to know how to nuke an install, let me know, i could send you numerous ways...lol
[09:06] <USMarine> foug: sigh
[09:06] <foug> IndyGunFreak: what distro were you using to learn on?
[09:06] <riotkittie> plenty of people want to be newbies - you can thank the newbs for linux's increasing popularity :P
[09:06] <_MrPink_> heguru ?
[09:06] <waffle> tonyyarusso: Yes i bought the game on cd
[09:07] <IndyGunFreak> foug: i mostly learned Xandros, then just didn't like it, tried Fedora, used it for about 6mo, then someone turned me on To Kubuntu, which I hated, then I found Ubuntu, and it was love at first site.
[09:07] <IndyGunFreak> but i'ev broken ubuntu plenty of times
[09:07] <USMarine> gnome *sigh*
[09:07] <angasule> is there a mechanical CAD program at all? :?
[09:07] <HAL> ubuntu is very niceeee
[09:07] <IndyGunFreak> !cad
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <erUSUL> angasule: vericad
[09:07] <USMarine> !kde
[09:07] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[09:07] <erUSUL> angasule: not in the repos and not free
[09:07] <olivier> x
[09:07] <foug> IndyGunFreak: using debian atm, not liking it as much i tohguht I would. thinking of trying out Fedora or SUSE on an older comp
[09:08] <waffle>  tonyyarusso: I don't know how to get the .sh file on my cd to run.
[09:08] <nanonyme> apparently there are tools for writing a CAD for linux though
[09:08] <angasule> erUSUL: ah, ok, I was kind of looking for free :)
[09:08] <angasule> erUSUL: thanks anyway
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> waffle: Okay.  Then you will need to make the script executable ('chmod +x /path/to/file'), then run it '/path/to/file', or if in the current directory, './file')
[09:08] <nanonyme> but you have to be a programmer to get a free CAD :)
[09:08] <riotkittie> and devs are kind of looking to buy groceries and pay rent.
[09:08] <IndyGunFreak> foug: well, my personal opinion, having used both of them, Ubuntu kills Fedora/Suse
[09:08] <IndyGunFreak> foug: Debian/Ubuntu has a far superior package manager, IMO
[09:08] <waffle>  tonyyarusso: ok i will try
[09:09] <Skelet0n> no-one can help in +1
[09:09] <foug> IndyGunFreak: i wouldn't doubt it, but i'd like to get some better linux knowledge on my plate
[09:09] <erUSUL> angasule: http://brlcad.org/
[09:09] <Skelet0n> any help here/
[09:09] <Skelet0n> ?
[09:09] <foug> IndyGunFreak: ya, apt-get is amazing, that's why i tried debian.
[09:09] <IndyGunFreak> foug: then install slackware..lol
[09:09] <riotkittie> ubuntu is awesome. i installed dapper totally prepared to laugh myself back to that-other-distro, but .. <hugs it>
[09:09] <jay> i its a clean easy operating system.
[09:09] <erUSUL> angasule: http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html
[09:09] <foug> IndyGunFreak: or gentoo right? :P
[09:09] <angasule> nanonyme: I'm actually a programmer and I've done quite a bit of 3D stuff :P
[09:09] <Pici> Skelet0n: You waited for 5 minutes, everyone is probably off installing the RC.
[09:09] <IndyGunFreak> yup, gentoo, zenwalk, there's a few of them out there that are OS's slash Barbers
[09:09] <geirha> foug: if you want linux knowledge, you should try LFS
[09:09] <riotkittie> and if not slackware, zenwalk... which is slack based but much smaller. </OT>
[09:09] <lee__> ow do i get permision to edit the x.org file on a secodary dis?
[09:09] <nanonyme> angasule, that is, there are tools to help you write a CAD program for yourself
[09:10] <lee__> eh second hdd
[09:10] <foug> geirha: LFS?
[09:10] <IndyGunFreak> geirha: thast kinda suicidal.
[09:10] <Pici> !offtopic
[09:10] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:10] <IndyGunFreak> foug: Linux From Scratch
[09:10] <icarus901> geirha, agreed
[09:10] <geirha> foug: you basicly build your own distro
[09:10] <foug> IndyGunFreak: o lol, maybe in a year or so
[09:10] <geirha> foug: it's step-by-step and very well explained
[09:10] <foug> geirha: ahh, i might get there someday :P I tried setting up gentoo but it wouldn't even boot up for me, kept geting some error
[09:10] <musashi> gah is there any way to stop the kernal from probing stuff when ubuntu is booting?
[09:10] <Warini> can't get mod_rewrite to work, any idea how to do it??????
[09:11] <riotkittie> dont you want the kernel to probe stuff? :o
[09:11] <tyler_dddd> help getting a brother printer installed?
[09:11] <musashi> well it keeps hanging my wireless card
[09:11] <musashi> i dont want it to get prob`d
[09:11] <angasule> nanonyme: any in particular? :?
[09:11] <Lawliet> I give up on trying to make my Nostromo work.  Can anyone refer me to a good Linux-compatible gamepad? :/
[09:11] <riotkittie> what kind of wireless card is it?
[09:11] <musashi> broadcom
[09:12] <nanonyme> angasule, i don't know myself, a friend (not a programmer) bumped into some while trying to find a CAD for linux
[09:12] <IndyGunFreak> !gamepad
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamepad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <tufic> Hello, I am having this weird error and my PC has gone very slow, can someone give me some help? http://pastebin.com/m5213d493
[09:12] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: the cheapest gamepads (USB) in the cheap electronics stores work best :-)
[09:12] <musashi> riotkittie, is there an option that stops probing or just stops it from probing that?
[09:12] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: because they don't have a special driver, but can be accessed with some standard driver
[09:13] <riotkittie> this i do not know
[09:13] <musashi> k
[09:13] <musashi> its screwing up my other OSs though
[09:13] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Thing is, they're always handheld style gamepads.  I'm looking for something like the Nostromo n50, which sits to the left of the keyboard as a mini keyboard.
[09:13] <musashi> if i boot ubuntu first
[09:13] <riotkittie> screwing them up how?
[09:13] <IndyGunFreak> musashi: how is that?
[09:14] <freezey> whats the name of the module for apache/mysql
[09:14] <musashi> it hangs the card and doesnt appear at all in either windows
[09:14] <musashi> windows OSs*
[09:14] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: oh ok... I suppose you won't find a "cheap driverless" version of that :-)
[09:14] <IndyGunFreak> musashi: its a sign
[09:14] <musashi> lol.
[09:14] <Lawliet> oliver_gl: :( Thanks anyway.
[09:14] <musashi> i dont know enough about linux to switch completely, so if anything ubuntu has to go
[09:15] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: but sounds interesting... is the n50 recognized at least a bit?
[09:15] <derick_> how do I play a wav file from the command line?
[09:15] <freezey> whats the name of the module for apache to support mysql
[09:15] <oliver_g1> derick_: try the "play" command
[09:15] <derick_> oliver_g1: :)
[09:15] <Lawliet> oliver_gl: No.  I actually had to google for a driver that is Linux compatible.  Found one that was made, after about 10 hrs managed to compile it... but now I'm at the end but a stupid executable won't load, so I am pretty fed up, lol.
[09:16] <oliver_g1> derick_: it's true :-)
[09:18] <soulfreshner> ta oliver_g1 - I didn't have it installed though, but I see it's part of the sox package
[09:18] <oliver_g1> soulfreshner: yes i actually checked that after writing the hint here in irc :-) but the "command not found - type this to install" magic is awesome :-D
[09:20] <musashi> if i do pci=off it says it wont probe for the PCI Bus
[09:20] <musashi> which is what my error is showing
[09:22] <Lawliet> Anyone here have a Nostromo gamepad working under Linux -- or recommend a similar gamepad that is Linux-compatible? :/
[09:22] <gandhijee> hey, how do i pull down the kernel sources for ubuntu:
[09:22] <gandhijee> ?
[09:24] <kaw22> hello, anybody with experience in customizing kernels in Ubuntu willing to answer a few questions?
[09:25] <Demize> Well, you can't ask me. I have no idea what kernals are.
[09:25] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: btw. it seems that your n50 is at least recognized as normal keyboard (only the extended config GUI is missing)
[09:25] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: and can't you then use the Ubuntu keyboard config for that? (just guessing)
[09:26] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: I just installed Ubuntu a few days ago, I don't even know where to begin to understand what you're talking about. xD
[09:27] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: I can't even believe I managed to compile the driver... in 10 hrs.
[09:27] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: oh ok :-) i just googled a bit, and it seems you can plug in the n50 and use it like a keyboard
[09:27] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: How would I go about doing that? :)
[09:27] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: plug it in some USB port
[09:28] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Check
[09:28] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: and then open a texteditor and press some keys on the n50 (in the hope that it generates key events)
[09:28] <tyler_dddd> printer error: state is always showing as Stopped:job-stopped??
[09:28] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: (maybe I'm too naive there, though)
[09:28] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: It doesn't. "(
[09:29] <Devourer> How do I make updates download and install automatically?
[09:29] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: then try this: open a terminal, run the command "xev", move mouse pointer into the appearing window, and again press keys on n50
[09:29] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: if ubuntu gets any key events at all, there should appear some text for these on the terminal then
[09:30] <Edited> Indy , Roit : found a driver that may work on sourceforge tyvm for your time
[09:30] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: The only text that appears in the terminal deals with the mouse.
[09:30] <riotkittie> good luck, Edited
[09:30] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: that's a pity :-(
[09:30] <Edited> tks
[09:30] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Thanks for the idea though. ^^;
[09:30] <Edited> if i get it sussed i'll pop back n say thanks agian :D
[09:30] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: ok, last try :-) what does the command "dmesg | tail" say? (last line is enough)
[09:31] <didrik> trying to get my nvidia 6200 working in ubuntu. What drivers should I use?
[09:31] <bruenig> any rss readers someone could point me to (not liferea)
[09:31] <didrik> I have installed nvidia-glx but not sure if it's working
[09:31] <MasterShrek> didrik, nvidia-glx i believe or nvidia-glx-new
[09:31] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: [ 5097.524000]  usb 4-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -32
[09:31] <musashi> hello MasterShrek
[09:32] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: oh... that's not what i expected :-) and it looks a bit strange...
[09:32] <MasterShrek> didrik, else you can use the nvidia drivers from their website, although its somewhat complicated to install them, i rarely hear of them not working
[09:32] <musashi> MasterShrek, got the three to boot ok now
[09:32] <MasterShrek> musashi, hello :)
[09:32] <MasterShrek> good news musashi
[09:32] <didrik> MasterShrek, Okay, I've got it installed. All i want to do is raise my resolution from 1024 to something much higher
[09:32] <musashi> MasterShrek, now i just need to solve the wireless card issue
[09:32] <oliver_g1> maybe can you post the whole output of dmesg on the pastebin?
[09:32] <musashi> MasterShrek, and ill be good to go
[09:32] <oliver_g1> !pastebin
[09:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:32] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: There is one above it that says -- [ 5097.508000]  input: USB HID v1.00 Gamepad [HID 050d:0805]  on usb-0000:00:1d.3-1
[09:32] <MasterShrek> didrik, alt+f2 type: gksu nvidia-config
[09:32] <didrik> I tried glxgears, and they run fine for 3 secs and then they lag
[09:32] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: now that one looks much better
[09:32] <MasterShrek> musashi, what kind of wireless card?
[09:33] <musashi> MasterShrek, broadcom.  it works fine in both windows OSs till i boot ubuntu.  it probes for the card and gives an error
[09:33] <MasterShrek> didrik, before that last command, do this: lsmod | grep nvidia
[09:33] <musashi> MasterShrek, well i assume its because of the card since it hangs and i cant even see it in windows unless i shut down
[09:34] <MasterShrek> musashi, youll need firmware i assume, i have a broadcom as well and i can get u a link to some firmware...one sec
[09:34] <didrik> ok
[09:34] <didrik> Done both, nothing happends :/
[09:34] <musashi> MasterShrek, if i could just stop it from being probbed... or that. thanks
[09:34] <MasterShrek> didrik, ok, well that means the driver is not properly installed
[09:34] <didrik> ah ok
[09:34] <didrik> :/
[09:34] <MasterShrek> didrik, try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[09:35] <gneale> Using K3B, how can I map a path to a mounted SMB share?... can't find it easily.
[09:35] <MasterShrek> musashi, http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv
[09:35] <didrik> MasterShrek, darn. Still nothing
[09:35] <musashi> MasterShrek, this wont effect my windows being able to see it, will it?
[09:35] <MasterShrek> musashi, download that file and run this on it: sudo tar -xjvf -C /lib/firmware bcm4311_firmware.tar.bz2
[09:35] <MasterShrek> no musashi
[09:36] <musashi> MasterShrek, well the problem is that when i boot ubuntu it hangs the card making windows not able to see it
[09:36] <MasterShrek> didrik, i can try to walk you through installing the nvidia driver from their website if you want
[09:36] <musashi> MasterShrek, unless i shut down and reboot, then it reinstalls it
[09:36] <musashi> brb
[09:36] <didrik> MasterShrek, Okay. That would be great. I suspect that it's hell. I guess the normal drivers won't work for my card?
[09:36] <burzum_> hi
[09:37] <MasterShrek> didrik, i never use the ubuntu drivers, and its not THAT bad
[09:37] <didrik> MasterShrek, okay :) PM ?
[09:37] <burzum_> how can i upgrade my feisty already to the new release candidate?
[09:37] <ElemonGW> there seems to be a broken package @ ubuntu's repo
[09:37] <ElemonGW> the package libvorbis-dev
[09:37] <MasterShrek> didrik, i would suggest hitting ctrl+alt+f1, logging in and using irssi to connect back to irc
[09:37] <sn0w> anyone in here have any experience installing linux mce?
[09:37] <ElemonGW> it has unresolved dependencies
[09:37] <MasterShrek> didrik, because you are going to have to kill your gui to do this
[09:37] <ElemonGW> anybody else having that problem or is it only me?
[09:38] <USMarine> !upgrade
[09:38] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:38] <veynom_> !gecko
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gecko - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <didrik> MasterShrek, okay. see u in a minute
[09:38] <burzum_> thanks
[09:39] <didrik_> MasterShrek: ok
[09:39] <MasterShrek> didrik, are you running 32 bit or 64?
[09:39] <burzum_> USMarine, theres no info how to update from 7.04 to 7.10
[09:39] <didrik_> MasterShrek: 32
[09:39] <didrik_> MasterShrek: can we go to pm ?
[09:39] <MasterShrek> didrik, join #MasterShrek becuase im sure your nick isnt regged
[09:40] <USMarine> burzum_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[09:40] <musashi> MasterShrek,  i shold prolly tell you the error i got was PCI BIOS BUG #81
[09:40] <sn0w> anyone ever install linuxMCE onto kubuntu? or use the quick install dvd?
[09:41] <USMarine> musashi: i have that error too
[09:41] <USMarine> never found what was it about
[09:41] <MasterShrek> musashi, then that may be different than what i thought, you can blacklist the driver tho
[09:41] <MasterShrek> !blacklist
[09:41] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[09:41] <musashi> MasterShrek, that will stop it from looking for it?
[09:41] <flamedryad> hi ya'll
[09:41] <MasterShrek> musashi, i think so, im not sure what that error is for though
[09:41] <USMarine> !hi
[09:41] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:42] <musashi> MasterShrek, well i dont use wireless in ubuntu, but everything runs fine.  it just messes stuff up in windows.
[09:42] <flamedryad> were do i find the vmserver app
[09:42] <MasterShrek> musashi, just blacklist the driver and give it a shot
[09:42] <USMarine> in canonical reps
[09:42] <musashi> MasterShrek, how do i find the name of the driver >_>
[09:42] <burzum_> USMarine, ok, thank you!
[09:42] <MasterShrek> bcm43xx
[09:43] <flamedryad> ?
[09:43] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: you still there? Btw. you can use "dmesg > ~/Desktop/somefile.text" to put the log messages into a text file on your desktop
[09:43] <flamedryad> were do i find the vmserver app?
[09:44] <Enselic> !vmware | flamedryad
[09:44] <musashi> MasterShrek,  that file was supposed to be empty right?
[09:44] <MasterShrek> flamedryad, i dont know if its in the repos, but if it is its called vmware-server
[09:44] <MasterShrek> musashi, probably
[09:44] <ubotu> flamedryad: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[09:44] <Bereanone> Anyone able to tell me why my places menu behaves differently on my laptop vs. my desktop?
[09:44] <flamedryad> me sorry
[09:44] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Yes I'm here.  Though I don't understand the errors I get to begin with. :P
[09:44] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: what errors do you mean?
[09:45] <musashi> MasterShrek, so it shold just say Blacklist bcm43xx now? no quotes or anything
[09:45] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: In general, I mean.  Now I'm out of the error stage, got everything working well... just the last executable I need to, well, make the gamepad work -- doesn't launch.
[09:45] <MasterShrek> i think so musashi just follow the instructions, i think its pretty straight forward
[09:46] <musashi> MasterShrek,  i just didnt know if the << were needed too :(
[09:46] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: what do mean with "it doesn't launch"? does it give error messages?
[09:46] <Echoer[1] > hey
[09:46] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Nope, just doesn't do anything.
[09:46] <Echoer[1] > sup nubs
[09:46] <Bereanone> Musashi: Trouble with Broadcomm drivers?
[09:46] <MasterShrek> i dont think so musashi, if it doesnt work one way, try it the other
[09:47] <princess^> ubuntu is very tired thing!
[09:47] <Echoer[1] > in gutsy, my cd writer is reading all my cdr's as cd-roms. any advice?
[09:47] <musashi> Bereanone, not really drivers, not trying to make it work, just messes stuff up when it gets probed
[09:47] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: what is the name of that executable? or from what "package" or archive did you build that executable?
[09:47] <musashi> Bereanone, but yea trouble with broadcom
[09:48] <musashi> alright ill try this brb
[09:48] <Echoer[1] > and do you like mudkipz
[09:48] <Bereanone> musashi: I just went through that on my laptop, tried all the various commands, then tried downloading a gui fix. Done!
[09:48] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Umm, not quite sure what you mean by package or archive... but if it is what I think, it was gtk+ and libxml.  The file name is nostromo_daemon
[09:48] <Needcyb> hablen en espaol
[09:49] <Needcyb> }please
[09:49] <v3ctor> !es | Needcyb
[09:49] <ubotu> Needcyb: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:49] <surfer9> wow
[09:49] <surfer9> mnay people here
[09:49] <surfer9> should i talk english or french ?
[09:49] <dgjones> !english | surfer9
[09:49] <ubotu> surfer9: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:49] <brobostigon> english
[09:49] <Needcyb> epale v3tor
[09:50] <pino> sera
[09:50] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: ah ok... Did you look at this forum thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=538319 ("How To: Nostromo n50/52 Speedpad Installation") ?
[09:50] <Bereanone> musashi: Have you installed the application for wireless from the add/remove application menu?
[09:50] <musashi> Bereanone, no i havnt installed anything in ubuntu if thats what yo mean
[09:50] <Needcyb> alguno ke hable espaol
[09:50] <Needcyb> ?
[09:51] <musashi> Bereanone, whats it called?
[09:51] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Yes.  I've been to about every tutorial/relevant thread out there, but I can't get any solution on why it won't run.
[09:51] <nixno0b> anyone know how to make a seperate container for applications on cairo-dock?
[09:51] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: heh :-)
[09:51] <flamedryad> whimpers now i got to find vmmon
[09:51] <Stevethepirate> Hi.. getting this error.. http://rafb.net/p/XcOfG651.html when trying to mplayer a movie.. video is fine, no audiot...
[09:51] <Stevethepirate> *audio
[09:52] <opexoc> I have such problem: I have apache2 server on my ubuntu system. It seems that it works properly. I have router in which I forwarded 80 tcp port for my lan computer. i really don't what is wrong but I can't connect to this server from outside. maybe it is ubuntu related?
[09:52] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: now that's difficult to analyze if the nostromo_daemon exits without any message...
[09:52] <Bereanone> musashi: try application>add/remove search for wireless. There should be three items which pop up, I installed all.  The one I think did it was the Windows Wireless Drivers ndiswrapper installation tool.
[09:52] <surfer9> okay may I explain my problem ? i installed kubuntu. i really didn't like it so i tried to uninstall it. this didn't work so i decided to force an upgrade to 7.10. now i boot, i see the nice graphical login screen
[09:52] <surfer9> i log in then...... nothing
[09:52] <surfer9> nothing but the background and the mouse
[09:53] <surfer9> i'm sure there's not a big thing missing
[09:53] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: I know... don't even know where to begin.  I may as well be clicking nothing, because it doesn't do anything... nothing even tries to load, that I know of. :/
[09:53] <MasterShrek> surfer9, choose a different session from your login screen
[09:53] <musashi> Bereanone, i only see one, KNetworkManager. can i get the others from terminal or something? or is there a way to get more stuff in add/remove?
[09:53] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: what does "ps -Af | grep nostromo" give?
[09:54] <danielbw> !seen brianw
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen brianw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <lee__> eh
[09:54] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: lawliet   7192  7175  0 14:58 pts/3    00:00:00 grep nostromo
[09:54] <surfer9> MasterShrek> i tried
[09:54] <jodde> Hi Guys.
[09:54] <lee__> erg
[09:54] <surfer9> same problem
[09:54] <lee__> I need that channel lol
[09:54] <lee__> this time Iam writing it down
[09:54] <Bereanone> musashi: check your sources list I have all checked and under third party I have several entries
[09:54] <jodde> How do I find my header files and set paths to them all for my compiler?
[09:54] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: what happens if you unplug the n50 and then start nostromo_daemon?
[09:55] <jodde> #include <gtk/gtk.h> yields plenty of errors.
[09:55] <musashi> Bereanone, i have none under third party D:
[09:55] <MasterShrek> surfer9, try creating a new user and have them log in
[09:55] <jodde> Yet the GTK tutorial says to use that as the include line.
[09:56] <jodde> !compiler
[09:56] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:56] <Bereanone> musashi: make sure you also "show" All available applications in the drop down upper right of Add/Remove Applications
[09:56] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. I just installed Moblock and logs show system blocks outgoing connections to IP's belonging to Microsoft.. 0o
[09:56] <t3453r> heya
[09:56] <musashi> Bereanone,  >.> that did it
[09:56] <lee__> tahts odd waht channel is gutsy in?
[09:56] <musashi> Bereanone, except i have more than three
[09:57] <oliver_g1> !gutsy | lee__
[09:57] <ubotu> lee__: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:57] <Gabyto> Hello! Forgive someone me podrian to help??
[09:57] <lee__> yeah oliver Iam trying to find that channel
[09:57] <Bereanone> musashi: what is in your search window?
[09:57] <lee__> but I dont see it in the directory
[09:57] <MasterShrek> Cryoniq, that sounds about right
[09:57] <musashi> Bereanone, the word wireless
[09:57] <sam_home> does anyone know where i can download the default xubuntu desktop background please?
[09:57] <surfer9> ok i've created a new user : [sudo useradd test] 
[09:58] <surfer9> [sudo passwd test] 
[09:58] <lee__> thank u bot lol
[09:58] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: also i just saw that nostromo_daemon puts all log messages into syslog... so "tail /var/log/syslog" might show some more info
[09:58] <surfer9> [sudo reboot] 
[09:58] <MasterShrek> lee__, #ubuntu+1
[09:58] <Cryoniq> MasterShrek: oh.. I just noticed now.. lol.. aMSN lost connection.. ha ha ha..
[09:58] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: The nostromo lights light up for a second when I plug it in, but then they're off -- they should remain on.  I still get the same result from the terminal.
[09:58] <musashi> Bereanone, maybe i have to add the other sources?
[09:58] <Gabyto> help me!
[09:59] <Bereanone> musashi: yea I see more than three now too.  The important one to check is about three clicks down called Windows Wireless Drivers
[09:59] <Gabyto> Bereanone : help!
[09:59] <adamk> If I want to install the 32 bit version of firefox on opensuse (on x86_64), it's as simple as selecting the 32 bit version in yast.  Does synaptic allow you to do the same?
[09:59] <musashi> Bereanone, ah i see it
[09:59] <Bereanone> Gabyto: ?
[09:59] <musashi> Bereanone, what were the otehrs? and i appreciate the help :)
[09:59] <MasterShrek> adamk, no, u have to get the package i think or download the tarball from mozilla.com
[10:00] <flamedryad> whimpers now i got to find vmmon
[10:00] <adamk> MasterShrek, Thanks.
[10:00] <surfer9> ?? if i try to lag as 'test' => password 'test' it log, then... log out and i go to the login menu
[10:00] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: It says a few things regarding the daemon... to run them off, first line says: Oct 10 15:00:48 Alchemy nostromo_daemon[7298] : Unable to open /tmp/nostromo_n50.pid - do you own it?
[10:00] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Oct 10 15:01:01 Alchemy nostromo_daemon[7302] : Removing stale pidfile.
[10:00] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: oh...
[10:00] <Gabyto> Bereanone! Do you know something of irc??
[10:00] <surfer9> any idea MasterShrek ?
[10:00] <mzuverink> how do you kill free the fish, it shows up nowhere
[10:00] <geefinator> Does anyone have any idea what would cause this error from ncpfs?
[10:00] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Oct 10 15:01:01 Alchemy nostromo_daemon[7302] : No configs to use, exiting.      --- which that can't be true, I do have a config already.
[10:01] <geefinator> ncpmount: No such entry (-601) in nds login
[10:01] <Cryoniq> MasterShrek: I was like.. hmm.. what the he.. is sending packets to MS from my system... Hey.. why is my aMSN red.. .. .. oh.. right.. hmm.. :P
[10:01] <Bereanone> musashi: I added a couple of others but think that the one that actually did it was the one I just said...
[10:01] <musashi> Bereanone, alright i installed it
[10:01] <MasterShrek> surfer9, its something to do with your actual user then, im not sure exactly what file it is in your home directory though
[10:01] <Bereanone> Gabyto: irc, about 15 minutes worth. Otherwise no...
[10:01] <Bereanone> musashi: try that and see if it helps.
[10:02] <Gabyto> Bereanone! what?
[10:02] <Bereanone> Gabyto: What??
[10:02] <musashi> Bereanone, i just use this to install the windows driver as if it was windows?
[10:03] <Gabyto> Bereanone!Forgive the inconvenience
[10:03] <Bereanone> musashi: I haven't used it in a couple of weeks but as I recall it was fairly strait forward.
[10:04] <Bereanone> Gabyto: No inconvenience, you asked for help, I sent a "?" asking how.  Ask away, I will try my best.
[10:05] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: so what does "ls -l ~/.nostromorc" say?
[10:05] <surfer9> MasterShrek what do you need to know ?
[10:05] <surfer9> when i've created the test user i got a warning that my home was '/'
[10:05] <hhp2k> Hey everyone, has anyone been able to get sim city 3000 working on linux?
[10:06] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: -rw-r--r-- 1 lawliet lawliet 6246 2007-10-10 15:03 /home/lawliet/.nostromorc
[10:06] <lastent> !ftp
[10:06] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:06] <surfer9> MasterShrek what do you need to know ?
[10:06] <surfer9> MasterShrek what do you need to know ?
[10:06] <MasterShrek> surfer9, your user wasnt properly set up then
[10:06] <surfer9> when i've created the test user i got a warning that my home was '/'
[10:06] <MasterShrek> !repeat
[10:06] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:06] <samid> #ubuntu-games
[10:06] <surfer9> when i've created the test user i got a warning that my home was '/'
[10:06] <musashi> Bereanone, i dont know what to do with this. i dont know what .inf is nor where to get it.
[10:06] <surfer9> when i've created the test user i got a warning that my home was '/'
[10:06] <surfer9> when i've created the test user i got a warning that my home was '/'
[10:06] <surfer9> when i've created the test user i got a warning that my home was '/'
[10:06] <surfer9> when i've created the test user i got a warning that my home was '/'
[10:06] <hhp2k> surfer9, stfu plz.
[10:06] <lastent> !proftpd
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proftpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <hhp2k> thx samid
[10:07] <surfer9> hey !
[10:07] <angasule> !gn
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <surfer9> sorry
[10:08] <Bereanone> musashi: I also installed SWScanner for managing wireless networks, and let me look and see if I installed anything else....
[10:08] <surfer9> so no one could help me ?
[10:08] <surfer9> where should i look ?
[10:08] <surfer9> any idea ?
[10:08] <surfer9> don't tell me that *nobody* has ever had my problem ?
[10:09] <mc44> !patience | surfer9
[10:09] <ubotu> surfer9: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:09] <surfer9> okay
[10:09] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: can you post the content of that .nostromorc file at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[10:09] <surfer9> that's kind of "be patient"
[10:09] <DjMadness> surfer9, you used the useradd utility so you had no home folder created basicly, delete the user, and use adduser to add a user
[10:09] <surfer9> maybe someone will help you...
[10:09] <hhp2k> surfer9: Basically.
[10:10] <surfer9> maybe you'll go back to windows.
[10:10] <DjMadness> surfer9, i cant even beleive i bothered to help there... thx
[10:10] <DjMadness> nice and negative :(
[10:10] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: you can use "gedit ~/.nostromorc" to open that file (it's not visible in Nautilus by default)
[10:10] <hhp2k> surfer9: I hope you're not implying that you think the whole ubuntu community will be in shock if you mention you're heading back to windows. We're not. Go ahead.
[10:10] <Lawliet> oliver_g1:  Haha thanks, was about to ask
[10:10] <oliver_g1> :-D
[10:11] <surfer9> i'm so in a hurry i don't know where to look and when i'm asking for help it's soooooo long i'm so sorry if i seem cheeky or whatever
[10:11] <surfer9> this is *not* what i mean
[10:11] <surfer9> sorry again
[10:11] <cat^f> surfer same here
[10:11] <EvanR> im here
[10:11] <DjMadness> hhp2k, have you checked the wine appdb ?
[10:12] <hhp2k> surfer9: It's been my experience that if you have to solve a problem in linux, it's almost impossible to expect it done if you're in a hurry. :P
[10:12] <hhp2k> DjMadness: I haven't. I'll do that now though.
[10:12] <LiMaO> surfer9: patience is a virtue. lol, i know it's hard though =P
[10:12] <MidnighToker> surfer9: whats the problem you need fixing so quickly?
[10:12] <Alan_Hicks> hey, I've got a problem with postfix on my Slackware-12.0 machine.  Local delivery via procmail is failing.
[10:12] <DjMadness> surfer9, delete the test user, and add the user with the adduser utility instead, it should give you a home dir etc
[10:13] <Ashex> anyone know how to solve a kernel hang during boot?
[10:13] <LiMaO> Alan_Hicks: as far as i'm concerned, this is an ubuntu help channel
[10:13] <Alan_Hicks> I'm reading the user information from a MySQL database on a seperate host.
[10:13] <MasterShrek> Ashex, it depends on why its hanging
[10:13] <surfer9> ok
[10:13] <DjMadness> hhp2k, seams to work in cedega http://games.cedega.com/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=2555 ill check wine appdb
[10:13] <Alan_Hicks> LiMaO: Thank you very much!
[10:13] <surfer9> if i do [sudo useradd test]  it didn't work
[10:13] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40301/
[10:13] <surfer9> so what should i type ?
[10:13] <Alan_Hicks> That's exactly what I was wanting to hear.
[10:13] <Ashex> MasterShrek, this is a description of what's going on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/147972
[10:14] <MidnighToker> surfer9: what are you trying to accomplish?
[10:14] <Alan_Hicks> Just trying to demonstrate to some people in ##slackware why Slacker users go there and why Ubuntu users should go here.
[10:14] <surfer9> just create a new user with a home directory
[10:14] <Bereanone> musashi: Did you try to install the driver? I think I told it to look for the name of my windows driver. I looked that up in windows.
[10:14] <EvanR> Alan_Hicks: get out of here you troll!
[10:14] <Ashex> MasterShrek, hangs when assigning Interrupts to IRQ 11
[10:14] <EvanR> Alan_Hicks: ubuntu rocks and slackware doesnt
[10:14] <CaptObviousman> egads there's a lot of people in here
[10:14] <MidnighToker> surfer9: adduser [username]  && mkdir /home/[username]  && chown -R username:username /home/username
[10:15] <dafunks> blasphemy
[10:15] <Bereanone> Gabyto: Still there???
[10:15] <LiMaO> Alan_Hicks: are there ubuntu users lost in ##slackware? send them here hehe
[10:15] <eikram> Has anybody gotten a Logitech G5 working properly in dapper?
[10:15] <MasterShrek> Ashex, not really sure, im thinking uninstalling the feisty kernel may have had something to do with it
[10:15] <Alan_Hicks> LiMaO: There's one, and I tried to convince him to come here.
[10:15] <surfer9> thanks a lot i'll try this now
[10:15] <mc44> Alan_Hicks: there are more ubuntu questions that can be dealt with here, never mind slackware :)
[10:15] <andril> hello all
[10:15] <CaptObviousman> it didn't go so well
[10:15] <Alan_Hicks> LiMaO: So we took bets to see how long me asking a Slackware question here would take for y'all to respond the same way we did to him.
[10:15] <bulmer> surfer9: i dont know if anyone pointed out to you yet.. /  is the root directory and must be owned by root, do not put your home dir here
[10:15] <MidnighToker> surfer9: you'll need root privlages to do that
[10:15] <Ashex> MasterShrek, I did a fresh install. It's occuring on that too
[10:16] <Richlv> LiMaO, he claimed nobody wanted to help him here :)
[10:16] <kane77> how do I get rid of the hidden files in open/save dialogs? I once entered a path manually and now it shows even the hidden directories/files
[10:16] <MasterShrek> i dont know for sure ashex, its not much info to go on, and im not really to good at things like that
[10:16] <LiMaO> Alan_Hicks: slackware users surely are more aware of what they're doing, thus being 'probably' more able to help any other user. but the channel names exist to prevent such confusions and lack of knowledge between distros
[10:17] <Ashex> MasterShrek, Okay, thanks
[10:17] <Alan_Hicks> LiMaO: My point exactly.  Later y'all.
[10:19] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: weird...
[10:19] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: :9
[10:19] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: i tried your config file with nostromo_daemon, and it was accepted (of course the app still failed, because i don't actually have a n50 :)
[10:19] <Bereanone> Gabyto: What do you need help with?
[10:19] <Lawliet> oliver_g1:  O.o
[10:20] <tyler_dddd> error mounting an ntfs hard drive.... unknown file type fmask=0111
[10:20] <tyler_dddd> ?
[10:20] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: what was the name of the file you downloaded for nostromo?
[10:20] <WaltzingAlong> !ntfs-3g
[10:20] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:20] <surfer9> MidnighToker > ok i've done it (with [sudo]  before each command)
[10:20] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: i mean, the file with .tgz or .tar.gz ending
[10:20] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: nostromo_n50-1.3.tar.gz
[10:21] <musashi> Bereanone, im sorry i had to brb, actually at work trying to solve this.  i just installed SWScanner
[10:21] <gunashekar> hiirc.freenode.net.
[10:21] <surfer9> i did a [sudo reboot] 
[10:21] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: hmm that's exactly the file i downloaded as well
[10:21] <src> anyone having ubuntu servers connected to a SAN?
[10:22] <Wips> I accidently deleted a folder, can I somehow undo it?
[10:22] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: I always get the weird problems. D:
[10:22] <surfer9> okay
[10:22] <gunashekar> anyone with experience of installing ubuntu on compaq v6000
[10:22] <surfer9> now i can login as 'test'
[10:22] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: bad karma maybe ;-D
[10:22] <surfer9> what is the result ?
[10:22] <Bereanone> musashi: As I recall I searched with the first one though and looked for the windows driver file.  I would try it again now but I don't want to mess with success. It was a bit of an ordeal to get it working.
[10:22] <MasterShrek> gunashekar, im using a compaq v3000
[10:22] <surfer9> just a screen whith the background picture
[10:22] <opexoc> I have such problem: I have apache2 server on my ubuntu system. It seems that it works properly. I have router in which I forwarded 80 tcp port for my lan computer. i really don't what is wrong but I can't connect to this server from outside. maybe it is ubuntu related?
[10:22] <surfer9> (nice one)
[10:23] <gunashekar> i c master
[10:23] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: It must be. :P  The FPSers of the world are tired of my sniping.  :(
[10:23] <musashi> Bereanone, when you saw looked for the windows driver, you just searched the windows drive in your media?
[10:23] <surfer9> and a 'star' on the top left corner
[10:23] <musashi> say*
[10:23] <surfer9> i can left click on it
[10:23] <surfer9> doesn't do anything
[10:23] <MasterShrek> gunashekar, having problems?
[10:23] <gunashekar> I have a V6406TU MasterShrek
[10:23] <MasterShrek> v3015nr
[10:23] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: well that's the price you have to pay for being at the top of the score table ;-)
[10:23] <gunashekar> it installs ok , but
[10:24] <surfer9> if i right-click the star becomes white, my HD makes some noise and nothing more
[10:24] <MasterShrek> gunashekar, its probably alot of the same hardware
[10:24] <surfer9> i'm stuck
[10:24] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: :(  I really don't want to go back to Windows... but not having a good gamepad will do it. :P
[10:24] <Wips> I accidentally deleted a folder, can I somehow undo it?
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> opexoc: have you installed any firewalls? can you access the webserver from a browser on the local machine? on another from the network? if from another on the network, then it is the router
[10:24] <TiM1> hey!
[10:24] <Bereanone> musashi:I think so.  It was bcm??? something.  I had to boot into windows to find it as I recall.  It was a big relief when it started working. On my next computer I will NEVER have a broadcomm anything again.
[10:24] <surfer9> do you know how to logout only with the keyboard, or how to re-lanuch the Xserver ?
[10:24] <mc44> Wips: is it in the Trash folder?
[10:24] <MidnighToker> surfer -nicely done
[10:24] <gunashekar> not able to get the sound, screen resolution, wireless, and usb wireless modem working
[10:24] <Wips> mc44, no..
[10:24] <TiM1> what is the darn command to get a partitions UUID!?
[10:24] <src> wips, if you still have some shell open into it, you can find the inode in /proc
[10:24] <musashi> bcm43xx
[10:24] <TiM1> i cant never remember
[10:24] <mc44> Wips: then probably not
[10:24] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: it seems like it's a really simple error that prevents nostromo_daemon from starting, but i have no idea what it could be :-/
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> surfer9: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart             or                sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:25] <Wips> src, If I what?
[10:25] <MasterShrek> Bereanone, broadcom wireless cards are working better under linux now, mine works great
[10:25] <surfer9> txs i'll try this
[10:25] <src> if you still have something that's still accesses the folder, you can find a link to it in the /proc fs
[10:25] <geirha> Wips: there are some restoration utilities, but chances are your directory with content is lost
[10:25] <Wips> damn..
[10:25] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Do you suppose removing the driver folder and recompiling could do any good -- or am I being stupid?
[10:25] <Wips> src, nah..
[10:26] <macavity> nullboy: hey.. dont steal the popcorn when you are watcing my tube! :P
[10:26] <src> unlikely for it to be lost unless something overwrote the same area of the disk
[10:26] <ben___> Sorry about the *vague* off-topic ness, but can anybody tell me where Amarok stores playlists by default if you don't specify a location?
[10:26] <geirha> Wips: however, you should immediately remount the partition to read-only
[10:26] <MasterShrek> gunashekar, soudn worked just fine for me, resolution youll need a video driver, and wireless im assuming is broadcom youll need firmware
[10:26] <nullboy> macavity: good show huh?
[10:26] <TiM1> anybody!?
[10:26] <surfer9> wowwoowowowo !
[10:26] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: maybe...
[10:26] <TiM1> the commend to get a parition UUID?
[10:26] <TiM1> i know its simple
[10:26] <gunashekar> broadcom it is
[10:26] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: (maybe removing the driver folder and recompiling might help, that is :-)
[10:26] <mc44> !uuid
[10:26] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:26] <drijen> nullboy, yeah
[10:26] <geirha> Wips: any small write to the partition may overwrite the files you just deleted
[10:26] <Bereanone> MasterShrek: It took a lot to get mine up in Gutsy, and then it went in and out with a couple of updates.  It has been stable now for a week or two and seemed to coinside whith the Wireless Driver tool use.
[10:26] <TiM1> !uuid
[10:26] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: It may do good, or I'm maybe stupid? :P
[10:26] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: :-)
[10:26] <Lawliet> oliver_g1:  Ah :)
[10:26] <opexoc> WaltzingAlong: I can't acces from another comp on LAN, but I can do this on localhost. I have alrady installed ubuntu 7.04, I didn't do anything with firewall.
[10:26] <Wips> geirha, so how would I find out if I can restore it or not?
[10:27] <Stevethepirate> Hi.. getting this error.. http://rafb.net/p/XcOfG651.html when trying to mplayer a movie.. video is fine, no audio...also on amarok.
[10:27] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: another question: did you install any other software "manually" to compile the driver?
[10:27] <gunashekar> should i try installing gutsy Mastershrek?
[10:27] <MasterShrek> all you need for broadcom chips nowadays is firmware, i have some in a tarball online that anyone can get if i give them a link, u dont need to extract it n e more if im around :)
[10:27] <surfer9> if i press ctrl alt f7 to go back to graphical mode my screen is divided in 3 sections, with 2 on the top showing the image of the splash screen and one on the bottom
[10:27] <TiM1> !UUID
[10:27] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:27] <MasterShrek> gunashekar, gutsy will probably run beter on it
[10:27] <gunashekar> please do gine me a link Mastershrek
[10:27] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: The fltk thinger I compiled... everything else was simple apt-get and package manager.
[10:28] <surfer9> how should i change my graphic driver ?
[10:28] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: ok, i guess the fltk stuff is safe
[10:28] <surfer9> i'd like to force it to a basic one (i have an old nvidia)
[10:28] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: then really try removing the driver folder, and redoing the whole thing
[10:28] <gunashekar> thanks Mastershrek will try gutsy
[10:29] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Okie doke.  Should I also remove the config/daemon/remote files?
[10:29] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: ?
[10:29] <bulmer> opexoc: can you rephrase the network problem again ?
[10:29] <surfer9> btw is there a way to uninstall for sure kubuntu ?
[10:29] <Wips> Just leave it then.. It's not about life and death. Thanks anyway
[10:29] <MasterShrek> gunashekar, http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv
[10:29] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: oh you mean the files that were installed afterwards?
[10:29] <MasterShrek> gunashekar, you need to extract it to /lib/firmware
[10:29] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: The compile put them in a folder other than the driver folder.  usr/local/bin...
[10:29] <titusg> Anyone know about rhythmbox crashing when trying to write a cd? It gets all the way to closing the disk then hangs. This is on edgy...
[10:29] <opexoc> I have such problem: I have apache2 server on my ubuntu system. It seems that it works properly. I have router in which I forwarded 80 tcp port for my lan computer. i really don't what is wrong but I can't connect to this server from outside. maybe it is ubuntu related?
[10:29] <Bereanone> musashi: MasterShrek is right...I was asked at some point to install firmware and I answered yes.  That was after a couple of update ups and downs following initial install.  I don't remember what the prompt was to install firmware.
[10:29] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: yes, you should remove those as well
[10:29] <gunashekar> ok . thanks MasterShrek
[10:30] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Okay, will do that. :)
[10:30] <src> opexoc: it's not ubuntu related. maybe iptables related, maybe apache related, maybe router related, but not ubuntu related
[10:30] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: and i think you don't actually need to install them again (at least for experimenting you don't need to install them)
[10:30] <neosix> hello!!!
[10:31] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: the nostromo_ applications will be in the src folder in the nostromo_n50-1.3 directory
[10:31] <neosix> People I have one question. Can I play online games with 64 kb/s (wireless)?
[10:31] <Kudak> i installed Ubuntu but i probably putting the boot loader into the wrong hd* because it wont give me the boot selection screen and goes right into windows, how can i fix that without re-installing ubuntu ??
[10:31] <src> neosix: yes. you can if you are a patient man
[10:31] <musashi> Bereanone, ok so i need to find the SWSetup for the broadcom wireless adapter in on my windows media?
[10:32] <david_> Kudak:  Are you using grub or lilo?
[10:32] <SR71-Blackbird> anyone got toshiba laptops?
[10:32] <nickrud> !grub | Kudak (do the one about installing windows after ubuntu)
[10:32] <ubotu> Kudak (do the one about installing windows after ubuntu): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:32] <david_> I have a Toshiba
[10:32] <Bereanone> MasterShrek: Do you have a link to install the firmware?
[10:32] <musashi> oh yes i have that link
[10:32] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Hmm, I see they are there.  I also have the applications in usr/local/bin though.  However the ones in source have a lock symbol on them -- what does that mean?
[10:32] <SR71-Blackbird> i'm using a200, have u got the function keys working?
[10:32] <neosix> src: OK thanks
[10:32] <freezey> when somebody ssh's in how do i keep them locked to 1 dir and not able to get outside of that dir
[10:32] <SR71-Blackbird> david_, which one
[10:32] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: not sure actually...
[10:32] <kharnov> Sup guys.
[10:33] <Kudak> nickrud: isnt it possible to boot with the Live CD and change the paratition the boot loader is on ??
[10:33] <MasterShrek> Bereanone, download that file from the link above and do this on it: sudo tar -xjvf -C /lib/firmware bcm4311_firmware.tar.bz2
[10:33] <nickrud> Kudak: yes, that link will walk you through it
[10:33] <david_> Satellite 2455
[10:33] <MasterShrek> jsut cuz it says bcm4311, it will also work for 4306,4312, and 4318
[10:33] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: I'm not that familiar with the icons in Nautilus (they are confusing sometimes :)
[10:33] <Bereanone> musashi: I looked for it in windows, but MasterShrek is right you need the firmware I think mostly. Did you see the link from MasterShrek?
[10:33] <kharnov> Anyone have any clue if the S3 Supersavage driver is gonna work under Gutsy? I don't get direct rendering under Feisty, and it's really annoying.
[10:33] <Kudak> nickrud: oh i see, thanks. :)
[10:33] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Ha ha, okay. :P  Well, I will try the re-compile... -crosses fingers-
[10:33] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: heh good luck :-)
[10:33] <SR71-Blackbird> david_, I'm using satellite a200. got most stuff working except the toshiba tools and stuff
[10:33] <musashi> Bereanone, yes i did, do i save it and then run taht command or do i open it with file roller?
[10:34] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Ty. :)
[10:34] <geirha> freezey: afaik, that's not a supported feature of ssh. I guess you would have to make a chroot and run a ssh-server inside there
[10:34] <imbecile> i was wondering if someone could tell me what repo ktssd is on?
[10:34] <MasterShrek> musashi, you have to move the contents to /lib/firmware and you need root privlideges to dot hat
[10:34] <WaltzingAlong> !info tkssd
[10:34] <MasterShrek> so the command is much easier and faster
[10:34] <david_> Blackbird:  What Toshiba tools are you talking about?
[10:34] <ubotu> Package tkssd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:34] <SR71-Blackbird> david_, toshset, fnfxd
[10:35] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: maybe when you're finished you can paste the whole log from the terminal into that pastebin website, so i can see if there are any strange compilation warnings?
[10:35] <neosix> src: Can I use crack under wine? Crack is on the DVD, and works fine in XP
[10:35] <imbecile> hmmm
[10:35] <Bereanone> musashi: I am not sure, I would have to play with it...
[10:35] <nickrud> !find tkssd
[10:35] <musashi> MasterShrek, im sorry, does that mean i have to save the .tar somewhere or do i open it with file roller
[10:35] <ubotu> Package/file tkssd does not exist in feisty
[10:35] <david_> Blackbird:  I have to admit, I don't know what those are.  What are you trying to do?
[10:35] <SR71-Blackbird> !info
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Alex_Gaynor> My Samba share has stopped working since I upgraded to gutsy gibbon, my windows machine can see it, however it can't authenticate, when I originally set it up I had a similar problem
[10:35] <MasterShrek> musashi, save it somewhere
[10:35] <MasterShrek> then cd to that directory and run the command
[10:35] <src> neosix: what the hell is crack!?
[10:35] <imbecile> dang, looks like its not there
[10:36] <surfer9> ok now thanks to your tips i've tried [sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop]  then [sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start]  then i get a message : "not starting gnome display manager : it's not your default display manager"
[10:36] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Will do
[10:36] <david_> src:  goodquestion?
[10:36] <surfer9> how to make gdm my default display manager ?
[10:36] <digitalspaghetti> how can i find out whats killing my PC's resources?  I have htop running, and i can't see any one app using a large ammount of CPU, but my CPU1 is constantly sitting at 100% and my CPU2 is fluctuating wildly :(
[10:36] <digitalspaghetti> all my apps take ages to load up
[10:36] <macavity> src: a slang word for the art of computer intrusion
[10:36] <WaltzingAlong> surfer9: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:36] <tyler_dddd> so lsusb lists the devices.... but how do I figure out what the ipp://usb:/dev/usb/lp? should be based on that?
[10:36] <src> sex w/ the serial port!?
[10:36] <imbecile> heh
[10:36] <neosix> src: well I don't have original DVD :)
[10:36] <musashi> Bereanone, did you also get the error when you booted ubuntu, about the PCI thing?
[10:37] <imbecile> i shouldnt laugh sorry
[10:37] <Stevethepirate> Hi.. getting this error.. http://rafb.net/p/XcOfG651.html when trying to mplayer a movie.. video is fine, no audio...also on amarok.
[10:37] <david_> You can laugh
[10:37] <david_> It's ok
[10:37] <src> dunno neosix, i dont use wine, but you can try and let us know
[10:37] <Bereanone> musashi: Not that I recall...
[10:37] <macavity> src: if sex in this sense strictly covers "to sadomise", then yes
[10:37] <jodde> Hey guys, how do I change my autoconfig to include paths to my GTK libraries?
[10:37] <Alex_Gaynor> I can paste my smb.conf if that will help(FYI its an ubuntu server install)
[10:37] <david_> I use wine and most things seem to work if they are not overly graphic intensive
[10:37] <neosix> src: OK
[10:37] <surfer9> oky i did that : [sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:38] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: The compile process is configure, make, make install, right?
[10:38] <surfer9> ] 
[10:38] <Bereanone> Anyone having trouble with Wine total system lockup???????
[10:38] <surfer9> now my graphical behavior is weird :
[10:38] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: basically yes, but you can skip the "make install" step for now
[10:38] <Stevethepirate> Hi.. getting this error.. http://rafb.net/p/XcOfG651.html when trying to mplayer a movie.. video is fine, no audio...also on amarok.
[10:38] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Okie doke.
[10:38] <Stevethepirate> !spam | SteveA
[10:38] <ubotu> SteveA: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[10:38] <Stevethepirate> oops
[10:38] <Stevethepirate> sorry
[10:38] <Stevethepirate> !spam | Stevethepirate
[10:38] <Stevethepirate> Hi.. getting this error.. http://rafb.net/p/XcOfG651.html when trying to mplayer a movie.. video is fine, no audio...also on amarok.
[10:39] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: in top, have a look at the second line (starting with "Cpu(s):")
[10:39] <surfer9> the mouse cursor is like a clock, but instead of 'turning' (like the clock does when your computer is busy) it's flickering between 0'20 and 0'30
[10:39] <|adrian|> i have a problem with vmware latest release
[10:39] <musashi> MasterShrek, the command doenst seem to be working
[10:39] <david_> Is anybody using Webmin?
[10:39] <surfer9> i'm pretty sure this is a driver problem
[10:39] <digitalspaghetti> oliver_g1, k i've got top open instead of htop
[10:39] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: if the machine is idle, the "id" (idle) value in that line should have a high percent value
[10:39] <MasterShrek> musashi, ls /lib/firmware
[10:39] <surfer9> any idea how to change this ?
[10:40] <MasterShrek> musashi, it should show u a bunch of bcm43xx_firmware files
[10:40] <|adrian|> it installs pefectectly but no network in my guest os on a wireles connection
[10:40] <musashi> MasterShrek, i see two ._.
[10:40] <digitalspaghetti> hmm ok, it's fluxuating between 30-45%
[10:40] <musashi> the command errord on me
[10:40] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: what about the other values in that line?
[10:41] <musashi> it said -C cannot open no such file or directory
[10:41] <MasterShrek> musashi, do this: tar -xjcf bcm4311_firmware.tar.bz2 && sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware
[10:41] <musashi> and some more tar: errors
[10:41] <MasterShrek> xjvf
[10:41] <MasterShrek> not c
[10:41] <digitalspaghetti> here is a snapshot oliver_g1: Cpu(s): 45.9%us,  1.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 44.2%id,  8.3%wa,  0.5%hi,  0.2%si,  0.0%st
[10:41] <strabes> is there a limit to the size of music files that can be added to the library by rhythmbox?
[10:41] <musashi> do i need sudo still?
[10:41] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Recompile did not work.  :(  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40303/
[10:41] <MasterShrek> for the second command musashi
[10:41] <Stevethepirate> Hi.. getting this error.. http://rafb.net/p/XcOfG651.html when trying to mplayer a movie.. video is fine, no audio...also on amarok.
[10:41] <digitalspaghetti> but for example, Eclipse now takes about 5 mins to start up
[10:41] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: "us" is user processes, "sy" is system work, "ni" is "nice" (some kind of background processes)
[10:42] <digitalspaghetti> i used to load up in less than a min
[10:42] <src> master_of_master: or bunzip <file>; tar xvf <file.tar>; mv <crap> <destination>
[10:42] <musashi> tar: you may not specify more than one
[10:42] <musashi> '-Acdtrux' options
[10:42] <riotkittie> xjvf    not xcvf
[10:43] <macavity> you cant x and c the same file...
[10:43] <MasterShrek> typo i meant v not c
[10:43] <musashi> =o
[10:43] <musashi> kk sec
[10:43] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: what does "tail /var/log/syslog" say? (maybe post that at the pastebin as well)
[10:43] <|adrian|> tar -xvf
[10:43] <src> bye
[10:43] <|adrian|> works
[10:43] <kane77> how do I get rid of the hidden files in open/save dialogs? I once entered a path manually and now it shows even the hidden directories/files
[10:44] <|adrian|> may i get some advice?
[10:44] <musashi> woa that worked
[10:44] <musashi> lol@my desktop
[10:44] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: it looks like some process is taking quite some CPU time... what is the highest process on the list in "top"?
[10:44] <geirha> kane77: CTRL+H is a common key-combo to toggle showing of hidden files
[10:44] <drijen> |adrian|, life, love, or liberty?
[10:44] <MasterShrek> musashi, use that other command now: sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware
[10:44] <musashi> k now ill do the second command
[10:44] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40304/
[10:44] <strabes> kane77, you should be able to right click and uncheck "show hidden files"
[10:44] <kane77> geirha, but it doesn't work in open/save dialog
[10:45] <musashi> k they all dissapeared
[10:45] <kane77> strabes, hey! that worked! thanx
[10:45] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: what does "ls -l /tmp/nostromo_n50.pid" say?
[10:45] <riotkittie> kane77: can you right/left click and get a menu that will let you turn that off?
[10:45] <riotkittie> <- always a little too late
[10:45] <MasterShrek> musashi, youre wifi card should be good to go now, sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[10:45] <digitalspaghetti> oliver_g1, i started eclipse about 2 mins ago:  6447 digitals  15   0  414m  87m  15m S   93  8.7   3:45.06 eclipse
[10:45] <Alex_Gaynor> Anyone have any ideas why my samba share stopped working when I upgraded to gutsy gibbon, I can see the share, I just can't authenticate
[10:45] <digitalspaghetti> its still grey, and not showing a loading bar, it will eventually
[10:45] <digitalspaghetti> but as i say it takes about 5 mins
[10:45] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: eclipse is quite a beast...
[10:45] <musashi> lol its still blacklisted
[10:45] <riotkittie> Alex_Gaynor: ask in #ubuntu+1 ?
[10:45] <dgjones> !gutsy | Alex_Gaynor
[10:45] <ubotu> Alex_Gaynor: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:45] <musashi> >.>
[10:46] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: -rw------- 1 root root 4 2007-10-10 15:06 /tmp/nostromo_n50.pid
[10:46] <macavity> why the heck do you type sudo before every command when you *know* that you are going to give multible command in short succession.. su is there for a reason..
[10:46] <Alex_Gaynor> riotkittie: Ahh thanks
[10:46] <strabes> is there a limit to the size of music files that can be added to the library by rhythmbox? I have a 37.5mb mp3 file that will play in rhythmbox and is tagged correctly, but refuses to appear in my library.
[10:46] <musashi> guess i should take it off the blacklist first
[10:46] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: do you know which Java VM you use? The Sun Java VM is quite fast, but the GCJ (GNU) Java VM is really slow here
[10:46] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: ah ok
[10:46] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: the file must be owned by you (not by root)
[10:47] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: How do I uhm...own it? :P
[10:47] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: moment :-)
[10:47] <nasevz> ubuntu 7.04 found my FlyTv card and works correctly, but only volume and power buttons work on the remote. Lirc is not installed?!? How to configure other buttons?
[10:47] <musashi> ok i was hoping for some sort of confirmation. ill open SWScanner i guess
[10:48] <musashi> MasterShrek, hmm the command executed
[10:48] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: ah, better idea than changing permissions: you have to run nostromo_daemon as root anyway (like this: "sudo ./src/nostromo_daemon")
[10:49] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: (that assumes you are still in the directory ~/Desktop/nostromo_n50-1.3)
[10:49] <MasterShrek> musashi, do you have an led for your wireless card?
[10:49] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Ran it, didn't do anything to my knowledge.
[10:49] <musashi> MasterShrek, its switched to on
[10:49] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: what's the last line of "tail /var/log/syslog" now?
[10:49] <surfer9> there's for sure a compatibility problem with my graphic card
[10:50] <imbecile> im trying to run kttsd but i keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40306/ any suggestions?
[10:50] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Oct 10 15:53:01 Alchemy ./src/nostromo_daemon[9339] : No configs to use, exiting.
[10:50] <surfer9> is there any way I could go back to 7.04 ??
[10:50] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: :-(
[10:50] <MasterShrek> musashi, you shold be good to go now, i cant help you with netowrk manager tho, cuz i dont use it, straight command line baby =D
[10:50] <musashi> MasterShrek,  lol
[10:50] <gunashekar> Thanks Mastershrek and musashi   your conversation helped me too
[10:50] <musashi> MasterShrek, nothing popped up saying anything was on though
[10:50] <Valamir> Ok I am back.
[10:50] <riotkittie> back to 7.04 from whta? 7.10?
[10:50] <musashi> gunashekar, np ;)
[10:50] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Observation: The applications are not in src anymore.
[10:51] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: ?
[10:51] <Valamir> I now face another situation. I get to the partitioner laoding and it locks up at 46%
[10:51] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: what do you mean?
[10:51] <tronyx> any takers to help me solve an SSH riddle?
[10:51] <Valamir> Then goes to the method and forces me to choose manual.
[10:51] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: The config/daemon/remote only exist in usr/local/bin now.
[10:51] <musashi> MasterShrek, im not sure it worked for me though
[10:51] <Stevethepirate> Hi.. getting this error.. http://rafb.net/p/XcOfG651.html when trying to mplayer a movie.. video is fine, no audio...also on amarok.
[10:51] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: wow that's weird
[10:51] <musashi> ;lsajdf;lksdjaf stupid work brb
[10:51] <MasterShrek> musashi, sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[10:51] <Valamir> I hit forward and there is nothing to choose from. What do I do?
[10:52] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: does "ls -l ~/Desktop/nostromo_n50-1.3/src/" show that as well?
[10:52] <surfer9> yep : i'm in 7.10 and it doesn't work so i want to go back to 7
[10:52] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: And I didn't remove those to begin with.  Wouldn't let me.
[10:52] <surfer9> yep : i'm in 7.10 and it doesn't work so i want to go back to 7.07
[10:52] <jodde> Anyone know where to find my standard libraries
[10:52] <gnomefreak> surfer9: join #ubuntu+1 for 7.10
[10:52] <jodde> Header files
[10:52] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: btw. did you create an own roor user on your machine?
[10:52] <jodde> That sort of thing?
[10:52] <surfer9> yep : i'm in 7.10 and it doesn't work so i want to go back to 7.04 (my keyboard is faulty sorry)
[10:52] <wyrd> tronyx, ask away
[10:52] <gnomefreak> surfer9: and you cant go back
[10:53] <gnomefreak> surfer9: reinstall 7.04 is all you can do
[10:53] <riotkittie> surfer9: you may want to wait for someone else to answer, but as far as i know, youre better off moving /home to its own partition and doing a clean install of 7.04
[10:53] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: The command you just gave me shows the application files, but it doesn't show me where they are.
[10:53] <surfer9> done
[10:53] <surfer9> i'll ask ther
[10:53] <gnomefreak> riotkittie: only way to do it
[10:53] <gnomefreak> there is no downgrade
[10:53] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Errm, like a login name/pass?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> !downgrade | surfer9
[10:53] <ubotu> surfer9: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[10:53] <riotkittie> gnomefreak: thought as much :)
[10:53] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: heh... it showed the contents of that src folder, and if the apps are there, then it's ok
[10:54] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: I'm such a newb. D:
[10:54] <Kopfgeldjaeger> n8
[10:54] <gnomefreak> surfer9: asking later is gonna get you same answer
[10:54] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: ;-D
[10:54] <riotkittie> Lawliet: everyone was such a newb once. i'll be a newb til i die. nothing wrong with that :P
[10:54] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: another idea: try running "sudo nostromo_config"
[10:55] <Lawliet> riotkittie: Ha ha.  Yeah, but it's embarrassing when I'm otherwise good with computers. :P
[10:55] <Valamir> Inquiring anyone here. ubotu suggested me go to the wiki, i read it and it worked. Now I am faced with the live cd not detecting the hdd basically. What should I do?
[10:55] <tyler_d> ok, whats the command for mounting an ntfs drive using fuse?
[10:56] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: I'm not that familiar with the root/sudo/su/whatever stuff on Ubuntu, but i suppose the .nostromorc (the config file) is in your home directory when it should be in the administrator's home directory
[10:56] <Stevethepirate> Hi.. getting this error.. http://rafb.net/p/XcOfG651.html when trying to mplayer a movie.. video is fine, no audio...also on amarok.
[10:56] <Stevethepirate> Hi.. getting this error.. http://rafb.net/p/XcOfG651.html when trying to mplayer a movie.. video is fine, no audio...also on amarok.
[10:56] <tronyx> ok, here's the scenario:  there are 2 files, one called year and one called .rtb2_password.  cat .rtb2_password gets me permission denied.  but ls -l year shows me that year can read .rtb2_password.  without using pipes or &&, i need to execute to seperate commands.  i need to pass cat .rtb2_password through year and i believe using ; is the key.  the problem is that ./year .rtb2_password isn't a valid argument as year only takes numerical operators
[10:56] <tronyx> like ./year 2007.  i'm officially stuck on this riddle
[10:56] <Skelet0n> my network tab is not accessible even as root!
[10:56] <Skelet0n> my network tab is not accessible even as root!
[10:57] <macavity> we dont care
[10:57] <macavity> we dont care
[10:57] <macavity> who fucked up the duplex switch?
[10:57] <macavity> who fucked up the duplex switch?
[10:57] <strabes> Skelet0n: you'll need to provide more detailed information than that!
[10:57] <Skelet0n> wow it was a typo
[10:57] <imbecile> I just wanted to say I love ubuntu. thats it
[10:57] <gregorovius> I just upgraded to Gutsy, and in firefox gmail's font looks really bad... is this a known bug?
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> anyone know where i can go for questions about Avant?
[10:58] <Skelet0n> when i go to admin>network it says i do not have the right privelages
[10:58] <strabes> Skelet0n: what happens when you run this: gksu network-admin
[10:58] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: you still there?
[10:58] <musashi> MasterShrek, it says interface doesnt support scanning o.o
[10:58] <musashi> MasterShrek, was i supposed to reboot or something? also my card is internal ya know, will it still work like that?
[10:58] <Lawliet> oliver_g1:  Do you accept cash or cheque?
[10:58] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: That sudo config command did it... though I tried that before the second compile... but it works now, daemon loaded and the nostromo is functioning. :D
[10:58] <riotkittie> Valamir: bizarre. is this a normal hard drive? ata? sata? internal? external?
[10:58] <Valamir> It's an E-IDE plugged into the motherboard.
[10:58] <Valamir> Allow me to explain a little more.
[10:58] <Caesar> Where are Ubuntu security advisories published. Not http://security.ubuntu.com/ it seems...
[10:58] <Valamir> As I am going through the installation I get to the part where the partitioner loads, well it loads to 46% and then stops and sits there and forces me to choose the manual method.
[10:58] <Valamir> I hit forward and there is nothing there.
[10:59] <musashi> woa
[10:59] <Skelet0n> will try that when i boot to ubuntu again
[10:59] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: congrats :-D
[10:59] <riotkittie> omg lag. :D
[10:59] <musashi> inorite
[10:59] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Major lag spike. :P
[10:59] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Ummm... can I pay you?
[10:59] <Jeruvy> bot purge methinks
[11:00] <Caesar> Never mind, found it
[11:00] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: i guess not... money transfers from usa (you're in usa?) to germany are way too difficult ;-)
[11:00] <Valamir> my further explaination is further up
[11:00] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: no, it was a pleasure to help :-)
[11:00] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Ha ha, well in that case... up for a game? xD
[11:01] <riaal> Is it hard to get colors in nano (for bash scripting)?
[11:01] <imbecile> im trying to run kttsd but i keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40306/ any suggestions?
[11:01] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Thank you so much though.  I am in your debt. :P
[11:01] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: in case you play Tremulous I'll meet you there anyway :-P
[11:01] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: no don't think that
[11:02] <Chabacano> my nautilus is sucking one whole cpu. It persists even if I kill it (when it restarts) or if I restart. Any clue?
[11:02] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Hmm can't say I heard of that one.
[11:02] <Chabacano> or if i reset the computer"
[11:02] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: (some quake3 based mod)
[11:02] <Valamir> Seems my issue is a bit of a mind boggler
[11:03] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: Ahh.  Okay.
[11:03] <digitalspaghetti> oliver_g1, sorry i had to go away there for a few mins
[11:03] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: (it's fun helping people here, and you have been a very pleasant help partner)
[11:03] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: ah is eclipse started now?
[11:04] <scrumpyGums> Anyone know of any gd PIMs?
[11:04] <scrumpyGums> Korganiser doesn't work for me
[11:04] <scrumpyGums> nor Kontact
[11:04] <Lawliet> oliver_g1: :)  Maybe one of these days I'll know enough to be on the helping end as well.  Thank ye again kind fella.  Kartoffel. :)
[11:04] <digitalspaghetti> oliver_g1, yea it has
[11:04] <digitalspaghetti> my system actually seems to have calmed down now, although this happened before and it played up again
[11:04] <oliver_g1> Lawliet: thinking of it, that would be a very nice way of "paying back" :-D
[11:05] <digitalspaghetti> i'm running java version "1.6.0_03"
[11:05] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: that seems to be the Sun Java VM
[11:05] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: do you have the load problems only with eclipse, or also with other apps?
[11:05] <digitalspaghetti> other apps too, firefox and skype both took longer to load than normla
[11:06] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: hmm...
[11:06] <unique311> quick off topic question.....my heatsink is stuck to my cpu...any help on how to remove the cpu from the heatsink?
[11:06] <didrik> MasterShrek: pm ?
[11:06] <unique311> artic silver 5
[11:06] <digitalspaghetti> as i say, it seems to have calmed down now
[11:06] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: so what does "top" say now?
[11:06] <digitalspaghetti> so i'll see how it runs over the next couple of hours
[11:06] <surfer9> does someone know, if i plug my USB hd, how to detect and mount it via a shell ?
[11:06] <didrik> whats the PM command in irssi ?
[11:07] <digitalspaghetti> over 80% idle
[11:07] <|adrian|> vmware installa debian lenny
[11:07] <MasterShrek> didrik, sure /msg
[11:07] <|adrian|> but no network for my guest os
[11:07] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: btw. the first line in top shows the "load average:"; that value is also a good hint about the system load (duh :-)
[11:07] <|adrian|> on a wireles connection
[11:07] <digitalspaghetti> 0.31, 0.93, 1.79
[11:08] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: hmm ok... AFAIK those are the "system loads" of last few seconds, last 5 minutes, and last 15 minutes...
[11:08] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: a load of 1.00 means: the system is completely "in use" but is not overloaded
[11:09] <makkara> jee ubuntu 7.10 is coming
[11:09] <digitalspaghetti> well it in the last 15 mins it's gone from 1.63 to 0.16
[11:09] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: everything above 1.00 basically means the system might be a bit overloaded
[11:10] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: 0.16 seems to be ok (you seldom have 0.00 load - on a desktop machine there are always some processes busy :)
[11:10] <Wips> I'm thinking I'll install Windows next to Ubuntu.. I already have a partition made for it. I'm just wondering if there are any things I need to do or any settings I need to check. I don't want Ubuntu to crash.
[11:10] <Valamir> you dont want it to crash and i want ubuntu to install
[11:10] <MasterShrek> !grub
[11:10] <Valamir> hehe
[11:10] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: well, its gonna hose grub
[11:10] <Wips> hose grub?
[11:11] <Wips> oh.. like that
[11:11] <tclineks> anyone experiencing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/65499
[11:11] <USMarine> grub is the most important piece of software of an OS
[11:11] <ibob63> can anyone tell me how to export mail from the /var/mail folder to thunderbird?
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> the menu that comes up and lets you choose ubuntu, safe mode, etc.
[11:11] <digitalspaghetti> oliver_g1, i'm gonna try restart, as my VPN isn't working anyway, i'll track my system load as i open stuff up
[11:11] <Wips> yep I have that one IndyGunFreak >.< It's gonna destroy it?
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: yes
[11:11] <lochlite> Hello! I wonder if anyone knows if it is possible to install a webcamera on a ubuntu(server-without X) and make it run and display pictures via a web-server?
[11:11] <oliver_g1> digitalspaghetti: that might be a good idea
[11:11] <USMarine> Wips: it will be out of the MBR
[11:12] <Wips> IndyGunFreak, MBR? >.>
[11:12] <Wips> ops
[11:12] <Wips> USMarine, MBR? =P
[11:12] <nasevz> ubuntu 7.04 found my FlyTv card and works correctly, but only volume and power buttons work on the remote. Lirc is not installed. How to configure other buttons?
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: see the link posted by ubotu above, write it downsomewhere, cuz once you nstall XP you won't be able to get ubuntu till you fix grub.
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: Master Boot Record.. XP will overwrite it, thats where grub is stored
[11:13] <geirha> Wips: when you boot the computer, it reads the mbr, and runs whatever is in there. Ubuntu install grub to the mbr, windows overwrites it with it's own boot-loader
[11:13] <jodde> Hey guys
[11:13] <lochlite> Ok, over to my next question; I
[11:13] <jodde> Could somebody please explain to me how to configure my compiler?
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:13] <Wips> So it's a risk I'm taking.. I mean what if the install fails, I won't be able to recover grub?
[11:13] <USMarine> with a live cd you will
[11:14] <riotkittie> Wips: you will be able to recover grub. use a live CD
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: you'll be able to recover it with a live CD, follow the link i just posted
[11:14] <USMarine> but you'll need to go to the command line
[11:14] <Valamir> i give up, i cant get ubuntu to install
[11:14] <geirha> Wips: so you just need to reinstall grub to the mbr after windows is installed (grub should detect windows automatically and add it as a boot option)
[11:14] <lochlite> Ok, over to my next question; I've installed ubuntu server version only; but it seems I need X (gtk) support, how do i install this smoothly?
[11:14] <Wips> Okay... So basically it's quite easy?
[11:14] <preaction> lochlite, apt-get install xserver-xorg perhaps? or the entire desktop with apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:15] <USMarine> lochlite: aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[11:15] <geirha> Wips: as long as you don't install windows over the ubuntu-partitions, your ubuntu is safe ;)
[11:15] <USMarine> Valamir: what's wrong
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: *easy* is relative... hang out here, you see a lot of folks w/ grub problems
[11:15] <Wips> I won't geirha: Nevah
[11:15] <heartsblood> What is the advantage of a x64 build of ubuntu, and is it possible to run x86 applications in an x64 enviroment without some sort of emulator (ie adobe flash)
[11:15] <superman> any1 able to help with webcam issues
[11:16] <USMarine> heartsblood: yes
[11:16] <lochlite> ok, but no one here knows if its possible to get a webcam working in console?
[11:16] <USMarine> heartsblood: much faster
[11:16] <IndyGunFreak> USMarine: i don't get your basis for that, i didn't see much speed difference in 64bit/32bit.. just more headaches
[11:16] <stefg> !flash64 | heartsblood
[11:16] <ubotu> heartsblood: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:16] <heartsblood> USMarine: "much faster" as in how?  the system that is running the x64 is only running 1GB of ram
[11:16] <USMarine> IndyGunFreak: actually i had
[11:16] <Valamir> When I get to the part when installing it loads the partitioner, it gets to 46% and then just disapears, then forces me to choose manual and i hit forward and there are no partitions to select.
[11:16] <superman> lochlite: do you no how to get 1 working normall
[11:16] <superman> y
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> USMarine: you had what?
[11:17] <lochlite> superman; if i had a desktop i would be able to follow some howtos and guides, but they all depend on desktop
[11:17] <stefg> Valamir: your partition table might be broken. is there anything important on the disk ?
[11:18] <USMarine> IndyGunFreak: performance increases
[11:18] <USMarine> besides you can't be using 32bit forever
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> USMarine: well, it hink you're in the minority.
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> USMarine: i didn't suggest i could...
[11:18] <Valamir> yes, very much and what do you mean by broke...it wouldnt load windows fine if it was broke
[11:18] <DM|> Ok i have a USB fat32 drive that is now owned by root for some reason, and chmod a+rwx -R '/media/disk' doesnt work
[11:18] <Valamir> it just doesnt make sense
[11:19] <MasterShrek> DM|, chmod 777
[11:19] <USMarine> Valamir: tried to edit partitions manually?
[11:19] <superman> ive tried some
[11:19] <USMarine> using gparted?
[11:19] <superman> u got any ideas where some would be
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: how much time do you have invested in your ubntu install?
[11:19] <MasterShrek> DM|, also use sudo
[11:19] <tyler_d> trying to figure out a brother printer... anyone help?
[11:19] <haru> donot talk of time spent on ubuntu install
[11:19] <DM|> Mastershrek i am, and it displays V Read-only file system for every single file
[11:19] <haru> does it ever end >_<
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> haru: sure it does.
[11:20] <Wips> IndyGunFreak, half a year maybe
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: oh ok.. to much.
[11:20] <MasterShrek> DM|, its being mounted read only then
[11:20] <Wips> IndyGunFreak, Too much?
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: i was just gonna suggest reinstalling both OS's.
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> XP first, Ubuntu second..
[11:20] <Wips> oh..
[11:21] <Wips> yeh, I was considering it.. But I'd rather not
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: understood, i keep pretty current backups, so i don't trouble shoot much, cuz i can reinstall and have my pc and all data and programs restore din about an hour.
[11:21] <Efsanee_20> s
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> except with Gutsy, cuz i spend an hour doing updates..lol
[11:22] <Wips> IndyGunFreak, heh =P ye... I think I'm gonna update to Gutsy too
[11:22] <USMarine> config (10min), wait until is done, 10min
[11:22] <USMarine> 20min total
[11:22] <Valamir> I used partition magic, I have used it many times, and shrunk the part size of my ntfs part to allow ubuntu (have done this in the past many times), this has never happened but it was like this before i did that as well.
[11:22] <Valamir> i can go into part magic now and make the new part i made for linux ext2 or 3
[11:22] <Valamir> eve swap
[11:22] <Valamir> even*
[11:22] <USMarine> Valamir: do you have free space?
[11:22] <USMarine> unpartitioned
[11:22] <Valamir> oh yes, 50 GB
[11:22] <USMarine> unpartitioned?
[11:22] <jay> yeah,me too.(brither print)
[11:22] <tyler_d> usb device = ipp://usb:/dev/usb/lp0.... still won't priknt
[11:22] <haru> IndyGunFreak, not if u keep updating it doesnt
[11:22] <oliver_g1> jodde: what's with your compiler?
[11:22] <haru> IndyGunFreak, esp with xorg updates, direct accel and beryl/fusion
[11:22] <stefg> Valamir: run 'sudo  fdisk -l ' in a terminal and !paste the to pastebin
[11:22] <haru> anywho.. i keep getting the gzip error in aptitude update, anyone know the fix
[11:22] <tyler_d> how do I know that the device listed is correct?
[11:22] <jay> tyler,i cant get my brother printer to work eithr.
[11:22] <tyler_d> jay: do you know how to tell if that line is correct?
[11:22] <jay> ping it!
[11:22] <jay> my guess.
[11:22] <stefg> !paste | Valamir
[11:22] <DM|> mastershrek any ideas?
[11:22] <stefg> !ping
[11:22] <Valamir> about 18 GB up
[11:22] <ubotu> Valamir: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:22] <ubotu> pong
[11:22] <oliver_g1> DM|: maybe the permissions for the whole drive are set in the mount options
[11:22] <digitalspaghetti> oliver_g1, 7.20, 4.99, 2.33  as I start up
[11:22] <stinger05> how can i switch to a root user in the ubuntu terminal ?
[11:22] <Haz> !root
[11:22] <Haz> !sudo
[11:22] <stinger05> thats it ?
[11:22] <stinger05> !root ?
[11:22] <Haz> just checking something :P
[11:22] <Haz> !sudo | stinger05
[11:22] <Haz> .. alright someone help me out with this bot
[11:22] <digitalspaghetti> stinger05, you can type sudo <command>
[11:22] <digitalspaghetti> or type su
[11:22] <digitalspaghetti> then your password, and this keeps you in root
[11:22] <digitalspaghetti> sudo allows you to stay logged in as the same user, but execute root commands
[11:22] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about root ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <ubotu> stinger05: please see above
[11:22] <stinger05> whats the password in the livecd ?
[11:22] <haru> i keep getting the gzip error in aptitude update, anyone know the fix
[11:22] <oliver_g1> wow... was that a lag spike??
[11:22] <Wips> hmm
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> haru: i'm talking about when i clean install of my Gutsy CD, I think ist tribe 3 or something.
[11:22] <Valamir> wth just happened
[11:23] <Wips> I got something too oliver_g1
[11:23] <USMarine> oliver_g1: indeed
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> cuz if i reinstall with it, i have about 300 updates waiting..lol
[11:23] <haru> IndyGunFreak, ohh, thats some 10-12 mins
[11:23] <geirha> stinger05: there's no password on the livecd
[11:23] <DM|> oliver_g1 where are those? fstab doesnt mention anything to do with my USB HDD
[11:23] <Valamir> I have 18 GB od unpartitioned space
[11:23] <tyler_d> unknown host... so now what?
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> haru: lol, hardly.. it takes a while, cuz there's 2 or 3 big kernel updates in there.. unless your running a 10mb connection.
[11:23] <USMarine> Valamir: ubuntu will work in 18
[11:23] <geirha> stinger05: if you want a root shell, just type sudo -i
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> Valamir: that should be plenty
[11:23] <stefg> Valamir: PM is known to do bad things to partition tables. This might be the cause for your problems
[11:24] <USMarine> just create a / partition of 17 and a swap of 1
[11:24] <USMarine> and move on
[11:24] <oliver_g1> (stinger05: the pw on the livecd is empty, afaik)
[11:24] <haru> IndyGunFreak, erm most updates here are cached on network.. so gen updates dont take long
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> haru: well they take me a while.
[11:24] <progrock`> whats the easiest way to install ubuntu on my tablet that has no cdrom drive?
[11:24] <Valamir> no it was doing this before that though, I have never used it on my windows box prior
[11:24] <USMarine> IndyGunFreak: 24Mbit here, speed ain't a problem
[11:24] <oliver_g1> DM|: what does "mount" say about that fat32 drive?
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> lucky you
[11:24] <stefg> !install | progrock`
[11:24] <ubotu> progrock`: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[11:24] <haru> :)
[11:25] <haru> anyone know how to fix the gzip error for aptitude while updating
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> Valamir: stefg why would partition magic cause partition issues?
[11:26] <stinger05> i just want to install a video driver, but it's saying that i should do it under root
[11:26] <oliver_g1> DM|: (or maybe you can paste the whole output of "mount")
[11:26] <Doitle> Where do I get GTK? I'mtryingto run RoR and I getthis error: ./RoRconfig.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_xrc-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> stinger05: use sudo
[11:26] <Meon> g
[11:26] <USMarine> Doitle: install -dev libs
[11:26] <Doitle> Bytheway someone spilled into mykeyboard so             sorry for thepoor spacing :/
[11:26] <ahmkr> i have a laptop with no cd rom drive how can i install ubuntu?
[11:26] <stinger05> so like sudo sh setup.run ?
[11:26] <Meon> sorry
[11:26] <Meon> :] 
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> stinger05: if thats what its telling you to do, yes...
[11:27] <stinger05> ah ok then
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> stinger05: but you probably need to be in the right directory
[11:27] <stinger05> yeah of course :)
[11:27] <stinger05> ok then..
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> stinger05: ok :)
[11:27] <stinger05> thanks anyway guys
[11:27] <stinger05> :)
[11:27] <progrock`> think i could use an external HD instead of a USB stick?
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> progrock`: for what?
[11:28] <Doitle> I'm afraid Icant figure outthe syntax ofthe install -dev...:/
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> progrock`: are you wantign to put ubntu on a usb disk?... or the install iso?
[11:28] <some_dude> hi
[11:28] <DM|> oliver_g1 sec
[11:28] <JakobS> Hi there! How can I find out to which sites (or ips) a certain program tries to connect? Maybe through netfilter?? Any help would be great!
[11:28] <Wips> But I don't have a live CD.. That means I should download that first, burn it and then install Windows?
[11:28] <some_dude> I've got a program I've downloaded the source, but i want to make it a .deb so i can install it cleanly
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> Wips: that would probably be smart.
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> make sure your data is backed up
[11:28] <ahmkr> IndyGunFreak: i want to install ubuntu on my laptop using a usb stick (i have no cd rom drive)
[11:29] <haru> anyone know how to fix the gzip error for aptitude while updating ... Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[11:29] <USMarine> JakobS: ethereal might be overkil
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> ahmkr: i see....
[11:29] <Valamir> how do i want the remaining 17 GB formated USMarine?
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> ahmkr: it can be done, but i'm not 100% sure of the procedure.
[11:29] <ahmkr> IndyGUnFreak: is this possbile?
[11:29] <USMarine> haru: pastebing the error
[11:29] <Valamir> ext2 or 3
[11:29] <progrock`> IndyGunFreak: I just wanna put te network instlal external HD
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> ahmkr: yes
[11:29] <USMarine> Valamir: just set it to reiserfs
[11:29] <USMarine> and it will be formated
[11:29] <ahmkr> IndyGUnFreak: will you be able to direct me somewhere where i can find out
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> progrock`: it canb e done, but its slowww
[11:29] <Valamir> that isnt an option
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> !install | ahmkr
[11:29] <ubotu> ahmkr: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[11:30] <ScottAS> I installed Ubuntu Linux 7.04 32-bit via a Linux Magazine DVD, although I don't know whether or not it installed the CD image and that the DVD contains additional applications which can be installed from it or not.
[11:30] <didrik> MasterShrek, It's fixed now :D
[11:30] <IndyGunFreak> ahmkr: i think that first link details it, you just need to make sure you can boot a USB device
[11:30] <USMarine> Valamir: partition type
[11:30] <calc> ScottAS: you can get the extra applications via the network
[11:30] <oliver_g1> Doitle: try "apt-get install libwxgtk2.6-dev"
[11:30] <MasterShrek> didrik, what did u do?
[11:30] <calc> ScottAS: just launch a package manager and it will show you what is available
[11:30] <didrik> I downloaded something called envy and it did it for me
[11:30] <Valamir> I have four available, NTFS, FAT32, Linux Ext2, Linux Ext3.
[11:31] <haru> USMarine, http://pastebin.ca/733523
[11:31] <didrik> Glx gears runs perfectly, I suppose that means it works?
[11:31] <didrik> Just need to know how I can increase my res. ?
[11:31] <MasterShrek> !envy | didrik
[11:31] <ubotu> didrik: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:31] <Doitle> * pipegeek has quit ("For the Mouse is of an hospitable disposition.")
 I installed Ubuntu Linux 7.04 32-bit via a Linux Magazine DVD, although I
[11:31] <Doitle> oops
[11:31] <Doitle> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:31] <Doitle> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:31] <ScottAS> :D
[11:31] <calc> ScottAS: eg synaptic package manager under system -> administration
[11:31] <IndyGunFreak> Doitle: close synaptic or whatever else is using root.
[11:31] <ScottAS> calc: Thank you.
[11:31] <Doitle> ah thanks
[11:31] <MasterShrek> didrik, im not sure what envy all did to your machine, but it probably wasnt the best thing to do...
[11:32] <IndyGunFreak> Doitle: :), done it many times myself.
[11:32] <didrik> okay.
[11:32] <ScottAS> I simply didn't know whether or not there's a difference between the CD and DVD images.
[11:32] <didrik> well it works fine atm :/
[11:32] <Doitle> hopefully RigsofRods will work now
[11:32] <Valamir> I already made the 1 GB swap. I just have 17 GB of unformatted space left and need to know what format it must be in.
[11:32] <IndyGunFreak> ScottAS: dvd images take logner to download
[11:32] <calc> btw that message that Doitle got sometimes comes from the cron job just taking a long time to run
[11:32] <ScottAS> calc: Is Ubuntu Linux 7.10 stable in order to have me upgrade my Operating System to it even though it isn't released under next week.
[11:32] <IndyGunFreak> Valamir: i would just make it ext3
[11:32] <haru> USMarine, any ideas?
[11:32] <LiveJazz> Hello all
[11:32] <Valamir> Ok, thanks.
[11:32] <IndyGunFreak> Valamir: mount point should be ./
[11:33] <oliver_g1> Doitle: ...
[11:33] <Doitle> What?
[11:33] <calc> ScottAS: it should be fairly stable, you can always install what is available now and just upgrade what changes between now and next week via synaptic
[11:33] <oliver_g1> Doitle: I actually thought you talked about Ruby On Rails...
[11:33] <oliver_g1> :-)
[11:33] <TheBuddha> ScottAS: hard to say, but seeing as the current Release Candidate is basically a final version, why not?
[11:33] <ScottAS> I'd like to take advantage of GNOME's enhanced keyboard accessibility because I've difficulties in using a mouse.
[11:33] <ScottAS> Thank you both TheBuddha and calc. :)
[11:33] <Doitle> what is Ruby on Rails?
[11:34] <IndyGunFreak> lmao
[11:34] <IndyGunFreak> zenrox: that exit msg is hilarious
[11:34] <oliver_g1> Doitle: what is RigsofRods?
[11:34] <Doitle> Hmm :/ Idont think thatwasthe dependency Ineeded
[11:34] <Doitle> It's a Game entirely built around asoftbody dynamics simulator
[11:34] <zenrox> IndyGunFreak: like that
[11:34] <didrik> Ok I now have the res i want :)
[11:34] <didrik> and 3d works
[11:34] <IndyGunFreak> zenrox: love it.. very clever. and very true!
[11:34] <didrik> FINALLY!!!!
[11:34] <oliver_g1> Doitle: AFAIK Ruby on Rails is some web applications framework
[11:34] <Doitle> Basically allthe vehicles and objects arecomposed ofa skeleton of "rods" that have elastic properties tothemallowing for realisticdeformation andreaction
[11:35] <USMarine> haru: package mal formed
[11:35] <USMarine> wait until tomorrow
[11:35] <didrik> MasterShrek,  lets hope the scrit didn't fuck up my machine. And thanks ALOT for your help.
[11:35] <Doitle> http://rigsofrods.blogspot.com/
[11:35] <demon_spork> what boot option do I need to specify to only boot to runlevel 3?
[11:35] <heartsblood> I obviously wasn't clear enough in my previous question.  What performance increases will my system see on a x64 build of ubuntu if it only has 1GB of ram, and is it possible to run native x86 applications in an x64 enviroment?  (such as a closed source chemistry app from school)
[11:35] <DM|> oliver_g1 how do i scan for hardware that isnt mounted yet? for its location
[11:35] <USMarine> didrik: now setup compiz fusion
[11:35] <didrik> USMarine, ?
[11:35] <haru> USMarine, from us.archive.ubuntu.com ?? the same source.list works fine on another identical system
[11:35] <IndyGunFreak> heartsblood: some applications it is.
[11:35] <sgray> does anyone now what keys you use to paint fire on the screen
[11:35] <IndyGunFreak> but it all depends on the hoop jumping you want to d.
[11:35] <sgray> desktop effects is setup now, junked my ati card
[11:35] <USMarine> haru: clear cached packages then
[11:36] <heartsblood> IndyGunFreak: could you go into detail or point me in the direction of a good faq?
[11:36] <haru> USMarine, aptitude clean?
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> heartsblood: as for performance increase, id on't think you see any, other think you see a Ton.. to me, its not worth it.
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> heartsblood: mostly web related issues, do a google search, its well documented
[11:36] <demon_spork> heartsblood, you will see no performance increase on the x64 version.  and yes, you can run x86 apps in an x64 environment
[11:36] <Kudak> why is it important to umount any mounted paratitions u made ?
[11:37] <USMarine> sgray: fire paint is gay unless you do it in your car
[11:37] <oliver_g1> DM|: hmm... you can have a look at the contents of the "Computer" folder ("Places" -> "Computer")
[11:37] <calc> heartsblood: some things are faster some aren't, things like oggenc are much faster from what i recall
[11:37] <haru> USMarine, how exactly?
[11:37] <USMarine> Kudak: flush data
[11:37] <heartsblood> IndyGunFreak: you mean like flash plugins?  those are the least of my concern.
[11:37] <USMarine> haru: man aptitude :)
[11:37] <ScottAS> calc: I haven't upgraded the software within my Ubuntu 7.04 installation whatsoever because I haven't had it connected to my home network and therefore the Internet. Is it vital that I upgrade the Operating System before I upgrade it to Ubuntu Linux 7.10?
[11:37] <Kudak> USMarine: what do you mean flush data? can you be more specific please?
[11:37] <oliver_g1> DM|: other than that, I only know of hal-device-manager, but it's a bit low-level...
[11:37] <USMarine> heartsblood: i have flash working fine in 64bit
[11:37] <Doitle> Heres a good video illustrating RoR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR9jqGv05H4 Look whenthe 8wheel Tatra bounds over thehill,youcan see the body ofthe vehicle flex
[11:38] <calc> ScottAS: if it is a normal 7.04 install it should upgrade to 7.10 directly fine
[11:38] <heartsblood> USMarine: yes I read the faq, but that wasn't the question.
[11:38] <ephracis> is there a good tool to make a raw copy of a harddrive?
[11:38] <ScottAS> Thank you.
[11:38] <haru> USMarine, aptitude says apt clean shud work, however it doesnt
[11:38] <calc> ephracis: dd
[11:38] <USMarine> ephracis: tar is a good 1 or dd
[11:38] <ScottAS> ephracis: You can also Partimage.
[11:39] <ephracis> USMarine: tar?
[11:39] <Kevzz> does anyone use devede? I am running into a problem when trying to convert to DVD. It says failed to make bin/cue files. Maybe you are out of disk space, I am very far from out of space..... any ideas would be great
[11:40] <musashi> i believe i have fixed my problem
[11:40] <musashi> i have to restart into vista to check, but i think i got it
[11:40] <haru> anyone know how to fix the gzip error for aptitude while updating ... Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[11:40] <musashi> and ill brb
[11:40] <Marfi> hey hey! after an update, network manager applet doesn't show up in the running tasks. how do i go about bringing it back?
[11:40] <ephracis> ScottAS: well, i have a friend who have a crashed harddrive and need to copy the data into another harddrive, and he does not know of any good linux tools.
[11:40] <heartsblood> haru: try a difference source list
[11:40] <DM|> oliver_g1 ok i found that, but the thing is how do i mount it
[11:40] <USMarine> ephracis: yes, tar
[11:41] <ephracis> ScottAS: So I need to copy stuff like partition table, too. Can partimage do that?
[11:41] <heartsblood> haru: I got that error a lot after upgrading to gutsy.  I canged my source list and after an apt-get update everything was fine
[11:41] <ScottAS> As far as I'm aware, yes it can. One moment ephracis.
[11:41] <oliver_g1> DM|: where did you find it?
[11:41] <haru> heartsblood, hmm..
[11:41] <ARAJABAT> hi! I'm trying to connect in the internet in my house. I've  modem with dhcp, but I install the ubuntu linux in my notebook in my office and I detected a wireless internet anda I can connect without problems. But now I cant connect in dhcp here in my house. What can I do?
[11:41] <ephracis> USMarine: I need to copy stuff like mbr and partition table.
[11:41] <DM|> olver_g1 computer,
[11:41] <calc> ephracis: or you could just dd the partition to a file and mount it loopback and copy the files out of it
[11:41] <sgray> gparted the live cd you can clone a partition
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> sgray: really?
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, didn't know that
[11:42] <sgray> or their is ghost4linux which is simular to norton ghost
[11:42] <sgray> ya man
[11:42] <gregorovius> Hi. I've an nvidia 6200 card, and in feisty I got ~3000fps on glxgears (I know it's not a benchmark), and now in gutsy I get... 70
[11:42] <Marfi> hey hey! after an update, network manager applet doesn't show up in the running tasks. how do i go about bringing it back?
[11:42] <sgray> gparted live boot cd is sweet you can resize partitions too
[11:42] <gregorovius> but glxinfo says direct rendering is enabled
[11:42] <gregorovius> any ideas?
[11:42] <calc> ephracis: if the drive really was crashed the likelyhood if the data all being intact is fairly small
[11:42] <ephracis> calc: but it is not just one partition, it is the whole drive.
[11:42] <calc> ephracis: ok
[11:42] <ScottAS> sgray: The creator received a cease and desist letter from Symantec Corp. in order to modify the name of the application.
[11:42] <USMarine> gregorovius: using nvidia driver?
[11:42] <oliver_g1> DM|: the a doubleclick on that icon should mount it
[11:43] <gregorovius> USMarine, yes, and restricted-manager also says it's enabled
[11:43] <ephracis> calc: well, it's not me who is going to recover stuff.. I was just trying to help my friend find a tool to copy it in linux. :P
[11:43] <TokenBad> ok I am trying to install ati drivers for the radeon 9250.  I got the file ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run  did the sudo chmod 777 ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run then the sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run...and during that...I get this error:  ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution  Anyone know how to fix?
[11:43] <DM|> olver_g1 mounting it is not a problem, the problem is that i cant write to the disk, everything is read only
[11:43] <Meroigo> I'm getting two SyncMaster 997DF 19" monitors soon. Are they 100% compatible with ubuntu? =P
[11:43] <calc> ephracis: oh ok
[11:43] <musashi> now i remember what i was going to say
[11:43] <ARAJABAT> hello everybody. I can't connect in a dhcp server with my ubuntu. What can I do?
[11:43] <calc> ephracis: tar probably won't do what you want but partimage or dd may
[11:43] <musashi> i recently installed ubuntu, but i dont have access to root stuff. i didnt assign a root pass though
[11:44] <musashi> so what is the pass x.x
[11:44] <ephracis> calc: I have no idea what actually caused the crash either. He just asked me if I knew of any good linux tool to do some raw bit copy of a harddrive.
[11:44] <oliver_g1> DM|: what is the output of mount (put it onto the pastebin)
[11:44] <DM|> olver_g1 i need to find out how to mount it in terminal first,
[11:44] <USMarine> ARAJABAT: dhclient
[11:44] <oliver_g1> DM|: ok
[11:44] <heartsblood> musashi: use sudo -I if you want a root console, if you just want to login as su go to settings/accounts and set the root password.  Although I have a feeling i'm going to get flamed for recomending that.
[11:45] <Valamir> Ok that failed...it still wont find any partitions.
[11:45] <social> i need help.  how do i configure my samsung syncmaster 215tw to use the correct refresh rate? ubuntu 7.10's display manager says it can only go up to 51khz when i know it can go at least 60
[11:45] <sgray> anyone play with desktops effects yet?
[11:45] <USMarine> sgray: sure
[11:45] <sgray> i have the fire writing set on
[11:45] <DM|> oliver_g1 any idea how i find what device it is in /dev?
[11:45] <sgray> but how to you write in fire
[11:45] <pike_> musashi: sudo tooks some getting used to for me but if you think about it having sudo with admin group or wheel group to su as in unix seems more secure
[11:45] <USMarine> sgray: set up a key
[11:45] <oliver_g1> DM|: right-click on the drive icon (in Computer), select Properties, go to the Volume tab (I hope there is a Volume tab there)
[11:45] <Valamir> I am totally clueless here.
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> Valamir: how are you partitioning your driev?
[11:45] <sgray> how do you do that
[11:46] <musashi> i need to be able to su - root in terminal
[11:46] <musashi> for class
[11:46] <ompaul> !sudo  > pike_  read the web page for the discussion
[11:46] <musashi> but it keeps askin for a pass
[11:46] <ompaul> !sudo > musashi
[11:46] <MasterShrek> musashi, sudo passwd root
[11:46] <pike_> musashi: the pass doesnt exist
[11:46] <sgray> sorry
[11:46] <mase> what's the default port for "Desktop Sharing" ?
[11:46] <ompaul> musashi, read that web pate
[11:46] <sgray> i got it thanks
[11:46] <Valamir> How? It wont let because the ubuntu installer doesn't detect one.
[11:46] <ompaul> mase, 5901 iirc
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> Valamir: hmm, type this, we'll see if we can figure it out, "/join #indygunfreak"  no quotes
[11:47] <mase> can someone try to connect to me to see if this works?
[11:47] <Valamir> ok
[11:47] <musashi> MasterShrek, thanks ;)
[11:47] <oliver_g1> DM|: there should be a "mount point" value
[11:47] <Crozar> my laptop handles 60 hertz refresh rate but on screen resoloution its on 50 =/ :??
[11:47] <musashi> ompaul, thanks
[11:47] <oliver_g1> DM|: right?
[11:47] <digitalspaghetti> I'm trying to connect to a VPN, but it seems my VPNC client has stopped, but when i try to reconnect I get vpnc: binding to 0.0.0.0:4500: Address already in use
[11:47] <ompaul> musashi, you're welcome
[11:47] <musashi> pike_, and heartsblood , thanks lol
[11:47] <mase> 24.147.33.89 , can someone try to VNC to that?
[11:47] <digitalspaghetti> does anyone know a way I can unbind it so I can start it again?
[11:47] <pike_> digitalspaghetti: sudo pkill vpnc doesnt work?
[11:48] <musashi> now if i can just get this touchpad to stop clicking when i tap it
[11:48] <digitalspaghetti> pike_, vpnc isn't running
[11:48] <DM|> olver_g1 only if its mounted
[11:48] <digitalspaghetti> the pid has stopped
[11:48] <TokenBad> ok I am trying to install ati drivers for the radeon 9250.  I got the file ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run  did the sudo chmod 777 ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run then the sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run...and during that...I get this error:  ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution  Anyone know how to fix?
[11:48] <social> crozar: i am having a similar problem
[11:48] <oliver_g1> DM|: :-(
[11:48] <pike_> digitalspaghetti: odd i use it every day never had that problem
[11:48] <DM|> olver_g1 /media/disk
[11:48] <ruz322> digitalspaghetti: you should be able to stop and restart the service, let me look, i've never used it
[11:48] <oliver_g1> DM|: ah ok...
[11:48] <digitalspaghetti> pike_, oh that seemed to work
[11:48] <winge-d_angel> hi there, I've been using ubuntu for about a year, but have experienced one serious problem with it: the fact that I have to wait 6 months to upgrade any software. I was wondering, does debian also enforce that rule (new versions only in a distribution upgrade) or do the debian repos get constantly upgraded? has anyone used both?
[11:48] <oliver_g1> DM|: what does "mount | grep /media/disk" say?
[11:48] <digitalspaghetti> weird as there was no pid in top
[11:49] <social> crozar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:49] <USMarine> mase, pass?
[11:49] <pike_> digitalspaghetti: id recommend ps aux or ps -A  alot wont show up in top
[11:49] <Fer_re> Hi all
[11:49] <nickrud> TokenBad: you should use sh ati-driver(etc) --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty (see help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:49] <musashi> MasterShrek, kinda off subject, but how would i get this touchpad to stop counting a tap as a click?
[11:50] <mase> USMarine, its test
[11:50] <DM|> oliver_g1 no output
[11:50] <TokenBad> nickrud, its with gutsy
[11:50] <PsiKlops> !apt-key
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-key - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <nickrud> TokenBad: I'm using it on gutsy as well
[11:50] <PsiKlops> !keys
[11:50] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[11:50] <DM|> !pastebin
[11:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <USMarine> didn't get through, auth failed
[11:50] <nickrud> TokenBad: but ask more on #ubuntu+1
[11:50] <mase> try again??
[11:50] <mase> i think itll work now
[11:51] <musashi> USMarine, i got that error to go away, as well as my problems i believe
[11:51] <DM|> oliver_g1 heres what i tried http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40314/
[11:51] <nickrud> I've got a file I cannot delete, even as root. lsattr says it's not immutable. Any suggestions?
[11:51] <MasterShrek> musashi, install gsynaptics, you should be able to set it in there
[11:51] <USMarine> musashi: what error?
[11:51] <musashi> MasterShrek, with a get-apt or in package manager?
[11:51] <TokenBad> thanks nickrud
[11:51] <musashi> USMarine, the pci bios bug
[11:51] <oliver_g1> DM|: hmm
[11:51] <MasterShrek> musashi, apt-get** and you can use either, they both do the same thing
[11:52] <USMarine> like when you boot the kernel it shows a pic failed allocation?
[11:52] <USMarine> pic*
[11:52] <MasterShrek> package manager is probably easier tho musashi
[11:52] <USMarine> pci*
[11:52] <musashi> USMarine, ah my error never was that, mine was only the first pci bios bug line. not the mem alloc one
[11:52] <mase> does anyone have a VNC viewer?
[11:53] <some_dude> yea
[11:53] <MasterShrek> yes mase
[11:53] <Vimto> hey ppl
[11:53] <ruz322> hey vimto
[11:53] <Fer_re> Who can tell me, how I can manually open same port? I have just installed and configured ejabberd-server, but there is unuseable. I think the problem is in closed ports (nmap 127.0.0.1 shows that 5222 and 5223 ports are closed).
[11:53] <mase> MasterShrek,  can u try to connect to me? 24.147.33.89
[11:54] <yokomo> I have compiz fusion installed on fiesty fawn and I HAD the shortcut made where I press alt+f3 for a terminal to open... it doesn't work after compiz install... how do I get it back?
[11:54] <Vimto> im trying to install ubuntu, its rebooting but i dont get it installed!
[11:54] <Vimto> am i doing something wrong?
[11:54] <ruz322> Vimto: whendoes the error occur
[11:54] <MasterShrek> yes it works mase, asking me for a password
[11:54] <some_dude> mase:  looks good to me
[11:54] <mase> MasterShrek,  thanks alot buddy
[11:54] <Fer_re> Who can tell me, how I can manually open same port? I have just installed and configured ejabberd-server, but there is unuseable. I think the problem is in closed ports (nmap 127.0.0.1 shows that 5222 and 5223 ports are closed).
[11:54] <Jammer> Fer_re, afaik closed just means there isn't anything using it
[11:55] <silvio> alguien habla espanol?
[11:55] <Vimto> i think there's in error which says something about the themes and backgrounds!
[11:55] <Jammer> !repeat | Fer_re
[11:55] <ubotu> Fer_re: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:55] <ruz322> vimto: so after you boot from the disc, you run the installer right?
[11:55] <Fer_re> Jammer: thx
[11:55] <USMarine> silvio: si
[11:55] <silvio> speake spanish?
[11:55] <Vimto> yes thats right
[11:55] <Vimto> now i have the background color!
[11:55] <musashi> MasterShrek, its asking me to set SHMConfig to true in xorg.conf.  will that mess anything up?
[11:55] <Vimto> with nothing on the screen
[11:55] <silvio> donde se va a un chat en espanol
[11:56] <nickrud> I've got a file I cannot delete, even as root. lsattr says it's not immutable. Any suggestions?
[11:56] <ruz322> vimto: im not quite sure I understand what your error is, be more specific
[11:56] <USMarine> !es > silvio
[11:56] <Vimto> ruz322 well, can you tell me how long time it takes to compelete the installation?
[11:56] <USMarine> Vimto: 20min
[11:56] <pike_> nickrud: not a - at begining of it? :)
[11:56] <USMarine> in a core 2 Duo
[11:56] <yokomo> silvio, si tienes una pregunta sobre ubuntu, preguntala por favor
[11:56] <DM|> oliver_g1 please tell me that i dont have to reformat...
[11:57] <ruz322> Vimto: depends on  your computer specs, but normally around 30-45 minutes on fairly new systems
[11:57] <Vimto> my laptop is Pantuim4
[11:57] <silvio> como voy a un chat en espanol
[11:57] <silvio> ?
[11:57] <oliver_g1> DM|: you don't have to reformat (i think :-)
[11:57] <nickrud> pike_: no, it's in a package ;( , /usr/share/w3c-linkchecker/*
[11:57] <calpe> HOLA GENTE
[11:57] <Striker21> Hey everyone
[11:57] <USMarine> silvio: /j #chat_en_espanol
[11:57] <calpe> REGRESO CALPE
[11:57] <Vimto> ruz322 good, so what i do when i get the background color with no ability to move the mouse!
[11:57] <DM|> oliver_g1 good cus this is 140gb of data , i dont have that much space on my regular HDDs
[11:57] <Vimto> does it request some more time?
[11:57] <calpe> oe vayanseala mierda
[11:57] <silvio> gracias
[11:57] <ruz322> Vimto: before or after the install?
[11:58] <mrj> i've never seen so much spanish/portugese
[11:58] <USMarine> spanish socks
[11:58] <oliver_g1> DM|: what does the command "whoami" give you?
[11:58] <mrj> how does a language suck
[11:58] <Vimto> ruz322 well, i will try to explain, i rebooted the disc and i got to an empty desktop!
[11:59] <Vimto> i just have the background right now and the disc is running
[11:59] <ruz322> Vimto: sounds like you had an error durring install, maybe an xorg problem, you should probably try reinstalling
[11:59] <Vimto> but im not sure that its installing because its my 2nd time to leave it like this for a long time
[11:59] <m0u5e> i just dist-upgrade from fiesty to gutsy, should compiz-fusion be auto starting up now at start, or do i have to manually configure it?
[11:59] <m0u5e> does it make a difference that i'm running xubuntu?
[11:59] <USMarine> m0u5e: compiz --replace
[12:00] <haru> someone help me fix this error, Err http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages Err http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:00] <USMarine> m0u5e: yes, kde is much better
[12:00] <Vimto> ruz322 i heard that i need to burn the cd with 4x speed, is that correct?
[12:00] <TokenBad> nickrud, I tried with the ./ati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper and it gives same error
[12:00] <ruz322> Vimto, yea thats right
[12:00] <m0u5e> USMarine: i already have it running, i'm just wondering whether I need to do anything extra for gutsy, or since they're packing it as default, it will autostart?
[12:00] <neverblue2> how can you do an ls, only should directories, and not having the / at the end of the directory name (as ls -d */)
[12:00] <heatman> Hello. I keep getting the following error: configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install. I was told that it was due to the fact that I was missing gnome-libs-devel. However, could anyone tell me where i can find it since its not in the repositories.^
[12:00] <Vimto> ruz322 good, so i need to re burn the cd with that speed then install it?
[12:00] <USMarine> m0u5e:  you could configure it
[12:00] <nickrud> TokenBad: I just ran that half an hour ago, did you use sudo? (you shouldn't)
[12:01] <ruz322> Vimto: yea i would try that first
[12:01] <DM|> oliver_g1 dm
[12:01] <Vimto> alright i will try, thank you:)
[12:01] <ruz322> Vimto: no prob
[12:01] <nickrud> TokenBad: could be a corrupt download, though
[12:01] <m0u5e> USMarine: I'd like to use whatever gutsy gives us if possible, no point in changing things that already work
[12:01] <TokenBad> nickrud, no..didn't run it as sudo
[12:01] <ernz> HI! Quick OpenOffice question: How can I make the last page of my document COMPLETELY unformatted, and remove the header, and footer from it?
[12:01] <TokenBad> nickrud, downloaded 3 times into 3 dirs
[12:01] <oliver_g1> DM|: then try this: in the Computer folder, right-click on the disk icon, select Properties, go to the Drive page
[12:01] <USMarine> m0u5e: not all compiz plugins are activated by default
[12:02] <oli_> anyone else here using TwinView?
[12:02] <m0u5e> USMarine: i understand that... but does compiz-fusion start up w/ gutsy by default?
[12:02] <nickrud> TokenBad: don't know why that would happen, then.
[12:02] <DM|> ok
[12:02] <oliver_g1> DM|: there, click on the "> Settings" text (to show the additional options)
[12:02] <advancedonsite> hi guys does anyone know of an irc webmaster channel available
[12:02] <musashi> uhhh ts not letting open gedit
[12:02] <kitche> m0u5e: compiz does you might have to configure the fusion part though
[12:02] <m0u5e> kitche: ah, i see
[12:03] <Lord-Innos> hi..... im having problems with my wireless card, anyone who wants to help me? :p
[12:03] <oliver_g1> DM|: and there, put this into the "mount options" field: "uid=dm" (without the ")
[12:03] <kitche> m0u5e: since compiz-fusion is just addons for compiz
[12:03] <nickrud> TokenBad: you might want to get the 8.40.4 version, maybe that's the problem
[12:03] <haru> someone help me fix this error, Err http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:03] <haru> or tell me where aptitude saves package.gz files
[12:03] <DM|> oliver_g1 uid is malformed
[12:03] <oliver_g1> DM|: and then unplug the disk and plug it in again
[12:03] <kitche> m0u5e: and it's a pita right now I just installed it myself it seems to hate xfce :(
[12:04] <nickrud> haru: you'd have to show the entire error, that's not enough. Put it on a pastebin
[12:04] <musashi> its saying cannot open display: when i try to gedit something from terminal
[12:04] <oliver_g1> DM|: hmm
[12:04] <m0u5e> kitche: yeah you can't use the native xfce theme
[12:04] <haru> nickrud,  http://pastebin.ca/733523
[12:04] <oliver_g1> then I'm out of ideas :-(
[12:04] <m0u5e> kitche: i'm running compiz-fusion on xubuntu now too