andersincan't lose anything in the process anyways12:39
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andersinbut I would say it is pretty stable12:40
andersinand definitely useable12:40
andersinhey, for me suspend started working so I am all praise12:40
andersinso take my advice with a grain of salt :-)12:40
enjoi1216hey andersin hey andersin where should i save the firefox file to after i download it12:43
enjoi1216because that webpage that you gave me was how to install firefox manually12:43
andersinyes, wasn't that what you wanted?12:44
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andersinwhy do you need the latest anyways?12:44
andersincant you just use adept?12:44
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christian_jemand hier der deutsch kann?12:44
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lovreandersin: im not sure if its working now, but i got access to bigger resolutions. How do i check what is installed?12:44
andersinja, ist aber ein englischer Kanal12:44
enjoi1216because i'm just going to stick with it to see if it's any better because my version hangs up from time to time12:45
andersinlovre: try nvidia-settings12:45
christian_brauche hilfe^^ bin linux neuling12:45
Col-Panicchristian: Ich kann Deutsch12:45
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:45
enjoi1216but see heres the thing andersin do i need to save or open the file and if i save the file where do i need to save it to like if i go to open it it wants to open it with Ark12:46
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andersinlovre: you can also check /var/log/Xorg.log for lines containing NVIDIA12:46
andersinenjoil1216 take your home dir12:46
lovreandersin:  i get this when running nvidia-settings: http://pastebin.com/m4214c9b312:46
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enjoi1216so i need to save it to my home directory correct ?12:47
Col-PanicI'd like real life to be as easy as saying "!man" to a woman, and suddenly she understands12:47
andersinlovre: try glxinfo12:47
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lovreXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".12:48
lovreError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual12:48
andersinlovre: ok, so that means no12:48
lovreandersin: i have Xorg.0.log file and it has this line: (**) |   |-->Device "nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7900 GS] "12:48
andersinno, needs to be caps12:48
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lovrelike NVIDIA?12:49
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andersinlike (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs12:49
lovreandersin: this is my Xorg.0.log file. can you check it out: http://pastebin.com/m76baa6c12:50
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ScorpKingandersin: the problem lovre have is with /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video12:50
ScorpKingandersin: look at this irc log - http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/kubuntu-2007-10-02.html12:51
andersinlovre: can you please post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:51
andersinand then try to type sudo modprobe nvidia12:51
ScorpKingandersin: a guy named uga have the solution. it's near the end of the page12:51
lovreandersin: Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:51
lovreandersin: it says that12:51
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ScorpKingit loads the lrm module and not the nvidia one. that's why you don't have X12:52
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ScorpKinglovre: look at the link i posted. the fix is there12:52
andersinwhat you need to do is replace the Driver "nv" line with Driver "nvidia"12:52
lovreandersin: heres my xorg.cfg http://pastebin.com/m44b557c112:53
lovrethere is a nv in there12:53
ScorpKingnite guys. c ya tomorrow. :D12:53
lovrebye m812:53
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lovreandersin: but if i replace it with nvidia, i dont think itll work. I can try tho12:53
andersinchange it to nvidia and try modprobe nvidia12:54
lovrerestart after changing?12:55
andersinjust change it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:55
andersinand then try  modprobe nvidia12:55
lovrei get this12:55
lovreFATAL: Error running install command for nvidia12:55
andersinfind /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ -name nvidia.ko12:56
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lovrewhat is that? a command or a location?12:57
andersina command12:57
lovre^the result12:58
andersinlove: did you install the nvidia driver manually once?12:58
lovrehmm, what do you mean? like what manually?12:59
andersinlovre: in that you downloaded it from nvidia.com12:59
lovrei tried many ways, so i spose i installed it manually, yes12:59
lovreyes i did12:59
lovrewas that wrong?12:59
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andersinlovre: well, the problem is that you now have two versions on your computes01:00
andersinlovre: well, the problem is that you now have two versions on your computer01:00
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andersinno problem01:00
lovrewhat should i do01:00
andersinsudo rm /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko01:00
ardchoillelovre: The nvidia tutorial mentions troubleshooting multiple installations01:00
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ZombineSimple quick question:  Can I use the Debian binary of Fluxbox on Ubuntu?01:01
lovredebian yes01:01
ardchoilleZombine: no01:01
ardchoilleZombine: It's not safe to install packages fromother distros in ubuntu.01:01
andersinardchoille: do you have a link to that?01:01
ardchoille!nvidia | andersin01:01
ubotuandersin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:01
Zombineardchoille: Isn't Ubuntu largely based upon Debian though?01:02
lovreye, i think debian packages are same as ubuntu01:02
ardchoilleZombine: "based" yes, but different enough to cause you problems if you go installing debian packages.01:02
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lovreandersin: i removed that package, what should i do now?01:02
ardchoillelovre: No, they are not.01:02
lovreardchoille: ok, i dont know, im a noob :D01:02
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ardchoilleZombine: You could download the sources and compile.01:03
Zombineardchoille: But for a window manager, assuming I keep my old one(s) just in case it doesn't work, it wouldn't permanently damage anything?01:03
Zombineardchoille: Oh?01:03
andersinI did not find anything about removing the old manually installed nvidia driver01:03
TFrogis anyone here running gutsy gibon beta?01:03
ardchoilleZombine: The safest bet is to use the repos. If you can't do that, it's safe to compile/install. But that is it as far as safe practices.01:03
ardchoilleTFrog: join #ubuntu+101:04
Sannelovre: Ubuntu and Debian are source compatible, but not necessarily binary compatible. Ubuntu's packages get compiled especially for Ubuntu, and Debian's may or may not work.01:04
ardchoilleZombine: iirc, fluxbox compiles easily on *buntu01:04
Zombineardchoille: I see... And I can just download this source from somehwere?01:05
Zombinewait... found it01:05
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ardchoilleZombine: http://fluxbox.org/download.php01:05
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lovreSanne: thanks for clearing that up :D01:06
Zombineardchoille: And compiling..... I assume there's some console app for that>01:06
lovreill brb need to restart01:06
Sannelovre: you're welcome :)01:06
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ardchoilleZombine: sudo apt-get install build-essential01:06
ardchoilleZombine: That will get compiling tools installed01:06
Zombineardchoille: okay... then I can just run build-essential with the source files as arguments?01:07
ardchoilleZombine: no01:08
Zombineardchoille: Ah...01:08
ardchoilleZombine: You need to install build-essential to get compiling tools.01:08
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Zombineardchoille: Done already01:08
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ardchoilleZombine: Now, download the sources for fluxbox, unpack them and read the INSTALL file01:09
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Zombineardchoille: Ah, instructions!  Handy!01:11
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ardchoilleZombine: I believe you're going to get errors because of X Window System libraries and headers. You might wanna install libx11-dev before you compile.01:12
HayaBusahello everyone . i cancelled my internet , but before leaving . I llike to know what are the best ( GUI ) Editors for PHP to downlaod and use. I want to start learning PHP5 . thanks.01:12
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CPrompt^HayaBusa : Quanta.  It's not a gui but an ide.01:13
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CPrompt^to learn php, phpfreaks.com is pretty good01:13
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HayaBusathanks, but no more internet connection ..01:14
m29338anyone have any probs configuring a Broadcom BCM4309 card using the HOW-TO?01:14
ardchoilleZombine: most sources ship with either INSTALL or README files, sometimes both01:14
m29338I CANNOT get wireless to work on this box01:14
Zombineardchoille: Ah.... guessing reading both would be a halfway decent idea?01:14
m29338ndiswrapper (add_wep_key:798): adding encryption key 1 failed (C0010015)01:15
m29338I know that the ESSID/KEY are good - not fat-fingered01:15
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ardchoilleZombine: Yes, fluxbox has both, nice01:15
m29338ndiswrapper -l returns: bcmwl5 : driver installed01:16
ardchoilleZombine: Dumb question: Do you know what fluxbox is and what it does?01:16
HayaBusaand also can you please tell me what is good for XML and CSS development ?01:16
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Zombineardchoille: It's a window manager, like GNOME or KDE, but more efficient hardware-wise, and imho also usage-wise.  Highly customizable too01:17
ardchoilleHayaBusa: I use kate for CSS01:17
m29338I've got /etc/network interfaces configured correctly01:17
CPrompt^trying to compile with kdevelop, i'm getting errors "autoconf not found" and "cvs version:not found"  i have both autoconf and cvs installed.  what am i missing here?01:17
L0GANhello, whats the difference betweenubuntu and kubuntu?01:17
CPrompt^L0GAN : kubuntu uses KDE and Ubuntu uses Gnome01:17
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ardchoilleZombine: Technically, gnome and kde are desktop environments, fluxbox is just a window manager. But, it's fast and very nice looking. Some folks have gotten fluxbox to work in kde (replacing kwin).01:18
L0GANim a windows user :) Gnome and kde? whats the best?01:18
ardchoilleL0GAN: Only you can make that decision. I feel you should try them both and see which works best for you.01:18
L0GANI would like one to use as live CD, with many apps preinstalled01:19
stdinL0GAN: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME01:19
m29338any wireless gurus out there?01:19
ardchoilleL0GAN: That the nice thing about ubuntu and kubuntu, you can download both livecd's and "test drive" them before installing them01:20
L0GANUbuntu didnt have Blender preinstalled. the version from the website didnt run01:20
ardchoille!info blender01:20
ubotublender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.43-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 7120 kB, installed size 18600 kB01:20
L0GANhad to look for a special deb version01:20
ardchoilleL0GAN: Blender is in the repos01:20
Zombineardchoille: I see.... So a desktop environment is like... window manager plus other stuff?01:21
ardchoilleZombine: yes, window manager, session manager, etc.01:21
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L0GANside tracking question: I want to make a live boot from USB stick allowing to install and save things. I tried a tutorial to partition stick but was getting access denied01:22
L0GANis there a app or script that can do that automatically?01:22
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ardchoille!sudo | L0GAN you need t use sudo for some things01:22
ubotuL0GAN you need t use sudo for some things: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:22
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L0GANso if it says /dev/sda then i need to sudu /dev/sda ?01:23
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:23
ardchoilleL0GAN: sudo is the command to allow you to do things as the admin user.. you still need to specify the command after sudo. Example "sudo kate /foo.txt" would open foo.txt in the kate editor with admin privs01:24
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L0GANbecause the tut i followed did a sudu, but dmount worked but then /dev/sda gave error01:25
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woddf2Kolf crashes KDE!01:26
ardchoillewoddf2: Are you using Gutsy?01:26
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woddf2No, I am on 7.04 Feisty Fawn.01:26
woddf2I just upgraded from 6.10 Edgy Eft.01:27
Zombinewow.... Turns out Wine is not a works-out-of-the-box kind of app eh?01:27
woddf2No, this is Kolf.01:27
ardchoilleI've never seen a simple game bring down an entire de01:27
Zombinewhat? me?01:27
woddf2KBounce did it when I attempted to open a menu.01:27
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NickPrestaWhat is the compose key set to by default?01:28
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Zombineoh.... 'cause it almost did.  I just went ahead and rebooted...  Anyway I'll install the dev package, compile and install Fluxbox, and when I talk next, it should be on a different de :D01:29
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ardchoilleyou mean wm01:29
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MinatakuLikely the program is causing X to catch a signal and crash01:32
PSPJunkieHey, I run they gutsy beta on my macbook, and it ran fine until i let adept_update update my comp, and now it doesn't want to charge.01:32
PSPJunkieAnyone know a fix?01:32
MinatakuWhich is quite possible, though rare01:32
NickPresta!gutsy | PSPJunkie01:32
ubotuPSPJunkie: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:32
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x_linkIsn't there Kubuntu Server?01:33
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x_linkOr is there just Ubuntu Server?01:34
MinatakuChances are, if you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old the last lines will mention something about a signal, probably 1101:34
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stdinx_link: that wouldn't make sense01:34
stdinx_link: server = no GUI01:34
m29338anyone get the Fn-F2 to work on a Dell laptop? Trying to get wireless going, to no avail01:34
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woddf2Minataku: >>Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting<<01:35
NickPrestam29338, which Dell Laptop? The Latitude series?01:35
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woddf2I found that in the file.01:35
robinsonevening, all01:35
MinatakuThe program caused X11 to segfault01:35
x_linkstdin: Ahh okej.01:35
x_linkI didn't knew that.01:35
robinsonneed some help modifying an xmodmap file, anyone able to assist?01:36
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NickPresta!ask | robinson01:36
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uboturobinson: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:36
x_linkstdin: Is it possible to install GUI on Ubuntu Server?01:36
MinatakuSignal 11 - SIGSEGV - SEGmentation Violation01:36
MinatakuNickPresta: He wasn't asking to ask01:36
stdinx_link: yeah, just install one of the *ubuntu-desktop packages01:36
robinsonsorry. I need to make the volume buttons on my laptop affect the PCM channel instead of the master channel. How do i do this?01:36
MinatakuHe was asking if anyone could help with his specific issue01:36
schwizCan someone help me install ubuntu I am having the following problems...01:36
MinatakuLay off the bot !abuse, Nick01:36
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...01:36
schwizununtu 7.04 I boot to live cd and get a blank screen, even when trying the gui safe mode01:37
MinatakuHey, they updated it to make it suck even more01:37
NickPrestaI'm aware of the !botabuse factoid. Instead of asking if someone can help, he should just ask the question and if someone can help, they will...01:37
schwizso someone said try 7.10 and it wont detect my raid array to install it just sees 3 seperate disks01:37
stdinschwiz: #ubuntu+101:37
MinatakuNickPresta: There's no problem with asking for assistance with a particular issue, if anything, it can be better, because no answer explicitly means that nobody knows01:38
x_linkstdin: So if I install Ubuntu server and then do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, den I will get Kubuntu, right?01:38
juacowow the repository update is taking so long :S01:38
stdinx_link: yeah01:38
robinsoni am running 7.10 Kubuntu beta on my lappy. For whatever reason, the master audio channel does nothing, which is why i need to alter my laptop volume buttons to affect PCM instead01:38
HayaBusahow can i tell if a service is running ? i like to know if my MYSQL server is running , thanks01:38
NickPrestaMinataku, okay, as you wish.01:38
MinatakuInstead of the regular question no-reply only having that meaning IMPLICIT01:38
MinatakuHayaBusa: ps -A01:38
ardchoillerobinson: join #ubuntu+101:38
MinatakuThat should list everything running01:38
Minatakurobinson: You're not the only one01:39
x_linkstdin: Okej.01:39
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robinsonwill do.01:39
MinatakuMy card has the "Main" volume as secondary as well01:39
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MinatakuThe "PCM" is actually the primary control01:39
ardchoilleHayaBusa: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql status01:39
MinatakuIf PCM is set to 0, there's no audio01:39
robinsonMiataku: interesting enough, adjusting the Master channle even using alsamixer in the console has no effect on volume01:39
MinatakuSo that's a hardware design thing01:40
robinsonit seems to be an alsa problem, but switching the button function would be a good workaround01:40
robinsonworked fine in Feisty01:40
HayaBusaThank you ..01:40
MinatakuNo, it's the hardware, and yes, it's the proper fix, actually01:40
MinatakuThe programs access the hardware mixer controls01:40
robinsonstrange. historically Master and PCM both had audible effect on volume01:41
MinatakuThe hardware is set to have PCM as the true master control01:41
MinatakuIt WILL01:41
MinatakuIf PCM is full and Master is 0, no sound again01:41
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robinsonnot here..01:41
MinatakuMaster will attenuate the full PCM volume01:41
woddf2Minataku: How do I fix it?01:41
MinatakuHm, well, your hardware may vary01:41
robinsonintel hda01:41
Minatakuwoddf2: Debug it. Or rather, submit it as a bug01:42
woddf2How do I debug it?01:42
robinsonit worked flawlessly in the previous Ubuntu01:42
MinatakuYeah, I have an ALi sound card01:42
robinsoni'll check the Gutsy forum and see what happens there.01:42
Minatakurobinson: At which point you'll have to ask in there, yeah01:42
MinatakuGood luck01:42
Minatakuwoddf2: With gdb and a knowledge of what you're doing01:42
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MinatakuWhich is why you may instead just submit it as a bug01:43
woddf2I will have to report it as a bug then.01:43
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ChaosMachinewhere would my 'kde headers' be found?01:54
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lavacano201014ChaosMachine: where are your normal development headers found?01:54
ChaosMachinelavacano201014, right, I belive so. a program is complaining 'in the prefex you have chosen there are no KDE headers installed'01:55
lavacano201014ChaosMachine: how did you install your program? Adept?01:55
ChaosMachinea program I'm trying to install* should have been more clear, and its from source since I cant find a .deb01:56
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lavacano201014in the shell, navigate to your source code's folder, execute "make uninstall" and try "./configure --prefix=/usr"01:57
lavacano201014ChaosMachine: ^^01:57
ChaosMachineah okay. :D thats what I needed I think. I'll try it01:57
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ChaosMachinelavacano201014, ah, nope. no luck, I belive this program is a failure hah.01:59
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ardchoilleChaosMachine: What are you trying to compile?02:00
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ChaosMachineardchoille, Domino. a window shader..I'm trying to make KDE look 'better' without the use of beryl or compbiz, I was trying to get some more transparent windows. heh.02:01
ardchoilleChaosMachine: You can get shadows, transparency and other effects by simply using the compositing manager provided by kde02:02
ardchoilleChaosMachine: Here's how I did it: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php#step702:03
ChaosMachineardchoille, ah. all this is pretty new...where do I fond the compositing manager?02:03
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sonic_Having issues burning with k3b in gutsy.  Im trying to burn an ISO and I keep getting "Cdrecord has no permission to open device"02:06
sonic_Ive been using kubuntu since edgy and kde much longer02:06
ardchoillesonic_: join #ubuntu+102:07
sonic_ok, well wont that mostly be gnome ppl02:07
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ardchoilleit's for the devel version of *buntu02:07
sonic_ok. Ill try there02:08
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x__how i can use a admins access on opendchub02:09
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BluesKaj'evening all :)02:12
sonic_ardchoille: some helpful developers, they said to use nero...02:12
ardchoillesonic_: I know nothing abour nero, k3b is the best burner, IMHO02:13
ardchoillesonic_: You're on gutsy, and gutsy is beta, this might be the reason for your problem.02:13
ardchoillesonic_: Best to ask for help in the devel channel02:14
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pestilencewhat is it that adjusts brightness when you press fn+up and fn+down?  it stopped working for me.02:15
BluesKajmy xorg file sucks again ... google earth won't launch after the latest gutsy update , it stripped the old libGL.so.1 file and replaces it with a very unfriendly non co-opertive something or other that has no regard for google earth02:15
iPandaHey, I have a question about connecting to my wireless network, i have a wireless card in my laptop, i just dont know how to get it to work without windows.02:15
BluesKaj<--considers going back to feisty again02:16
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BluesKaj!wireless | iPanda02:18
ubotuiPanda: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:18
iPandathank you02:18
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lovrei have a question (imagine :D): sometimes when i try to load an application (for example firefox or gaim or any other) it doesnt load, it just says loading, and stays like that. Then it dissapears, not loading. Then i have to click it again, and it loads then. Why is this happening?02:22
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ardchoillelovre: Try and run the app from a terminal and see if there is any error output02:22
lovreardchoille: it doesnt happen every time, just somethimes, maybe 5th time or something like that02:23
lovreardchoille: terminal shows an error everytime, even when it loads02:24
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lovreardchoille: http://pastebin.com/m343dedc502:24
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ardchoillelovre: That error is normal and can be ignores02:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:24
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors02:25
ardchoillety NickPresta02:25
lovreardchoille: ok02:25
lovreardchoille: no other errors tho02:25
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tsbUpgrading to gutsy from feisty is a simple s/feisty/gutsy in the official repos in sources.list && dist-upgrade right?02:25
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tsboops, sorry.02:26
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tsbUpgrading to gutsy from feisty is a simple s/feisty/gutsy in the official repos in sources.list && dist-upgrade right?02:26
tsbJesus, heh, sorry.02:26
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lovrewhat new does gutsy have than feisty doesnt02:27
BluesKajtsb , first source-o-matic gusty  and use that to replace your old sources.list then do the upgrade to gutsy02:28
BluesKajerr gutsy02:28
DragnslcrAt this point, it seems like you might as well just wait for the release and let Adept do it for you02:29
BluesKajI'm not impressed with google earth on gutsy for ati users...crashes , freezes or doesn't launch02:31
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stdinBluesKaj: that's not a good way to upgarde now02:33
ardchoilleDragnslcr: Especially since it's only 7 days away02:33
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BluesKajyeah stdin , my latest updates just wrecked my xorg.config file and google earth won't launch anymore ...becoming very disappointed with gutsy . I don't see many benefits in it for me . :(02:35
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CPrompt^are we going to have the same problems upgrading to Gutsy that we did with Fiesty?  Mine crashed on the install and I had to re-install02:36
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flakei have winxp 32bit on a 64-bit machine, can I set up a second partition to dual-boot ubuntu 64-bit on the 64-bit machine and keep the 32bit winxp?02:36
BluesKajseriously considering reverting to feisty02:36
flakeGutsy aint out yet officially, BluesKaj?02:37
chaoticwhizzI had a few problems upgrading to Gutsy. All teh files downloaded but when installing, it stopped aobut 35% into it.02:37
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chaoticwhizzI couldnt restart teh upgrader program. SO once I restarted the PC I was only given a command prompt. I ran sudo apt-get -f upgrade and it finished the rest of the upgrade02:38
BluesKajCPrompt^, in my case I'm afraid so ...an upgrade to the xorg file got past me and stripped the libGL.so from google earth , and that really pi**es me off.02:39
BigDaddyEvening all... got a question about display managers. My wife likes GNOME over KDE, but GNOME does not like kdm and will not "switch user". Is there a workaround for this?02:39
CPrompt^BluesKaj :  bummer.  I had my Edgy set up nicely and it crashed hard on the upgrade.  Took me quite a while to get Fiesty the way I wanted.  I lost some stuff too :(02:39
BluesKajBigDaddy, you should be able chhoose which desktop you want to use at login02:40
chaoticwhizzBlues, I had that problem in Google earth too. reinstally the video driver fixed it02:40
BigDaddyBluesKaj: that is true. however when my wife is on GNOME, and I wish to login is. I cannot switch to my name without logging her off02:40
BluesKajchaoticwhizz, yeah i reinsytalle fglrx 8.41 ...works fine in 3D and DRI , but google earth is left behind in the dust as usual02:41
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chaoticwhizzI honeslty dont see any major differences yet with Gutsy. A few tough ups here in there.02:42
chaoticwhizzonly been using it for a few days.02:43
BluesKajchaoticwhizz, agreed ...I'm beginning to think there's more hype than substance to gutsy02:43
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chaoticwhizzIm more looking foward to KDE4.02:44
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BluesKajGutsy isn't even qualifying for long term support :(02:44
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tzangeron my old slackware systems there is an /etc/inittab that is used to tell init some of the things to do in various runlevels.  It also had init.d but inittab was more for gettys and X and things02:45
chaoticwhizzyeah. that reminds me. anyone know how to switch the default file manager to Konquerer? I dont really care for Dolphin02:45
tzangerwhat is the equivalent on kubunutu?  Specifically I'm wondering if there is a runlevel that does not run X02:45
BigDaddyThe message I get when leaving my wife's GNOME session is that it cannot switch user because I am not using gdm. I can log off, just not switch02:46
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BluesKajchaoticwhizz, I was told to just use konq as before and ignore dolphin if i don't like it. Dolphin doesn't swim :)02:47
pillowpantswhat does "filesystem unclean" mean?02:47
pillowpantsthe power went out a few minutes ago02:47
flakepillowpants - means you got too much p0rn on there02:47
pillowpantsand my computer tragically crashed02:48
OpenSorcehey....you guys know everything....anyone know how to make a submenu of the kmenu in menu editor that shows recent apps and documents?02:48
flakejk sorry to hear that02:48
pillowpantsflake : indeed02:48
BigDaddypillowpants: that probably means you have microsoft software installed somewhere02:48
pillowpantsit never said it before02:48
pillowpantsit also took my grub forever to load02:48
pillowpantsand there was a pause in loading ubuntu up as well02:48
pillowpantsi feel uneasy02:48
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BigDaddyDo you have Vista by any chance pillowpants?02:50
pillowpantsBigDaddy : nay02:50
pillowpantsa man who pays for his operating system is a fool02:50
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pillowpantswhy do you ask?02:51
BigDaddyJust curious if GRUB had become self aware02:51
pillowpantsthe issue may just correct itself02:51
NickPrestaWhich version of the flash plugin is included with Gutsy by default?02:51
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pillowpantsit was horrible, the power didnt really go out, it just flickered and my computer moniter twitched but stayed on, then it did it a little longer a second time and my comp went down02:52
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pillowpantsthen everything electric feel dead02:52
pillowpantsi hate power outtages02:52
pillowpantsi hope my gfi switch did its job02:52
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chaoticwhizzNick, 9.0.48 is on the repos right now02:53
ghozalaHELP !!! I got limewire for the frist time it was great then it didnt open agian i tried to reinstall it but the same problem still does anybody have any idea whats going on02:53
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire02:54
pillowpants!frostwire | ghozala02:54
ubotughozala: please see above02:54
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tzangeron my old slackware systems there is an /etc/inittab that is used to tell init some of the things to do in various runlevels.  It also had init.d but inittab was more for gettys and X and things02:57
tzangerwhat is the equivalent on kubunutu?  Specifically I'm wondering if there is a runlevel that does not run X02:57
DragnslcrI think Ubuntu uses the same runlevels02:58
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tzangerI don't think so... I see no /etc/inittab and if i run telinit 3 (which is text only) nothing obvious happens02:58
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DragnslcrThere's /etc/rcN.d (N = 0..6)02:59
pillowpantsdoes k3b have some sort of problem with burning cue images02:59
tzangerDragnslcr: that's fine, but what about programs like gettys and things that may die and need to be restarted?  init used to take care of that thorugh inittab02:59
pillowpantsi cant get it to burn02:59
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chaoticwhizztzanger, this forum thread might be relevant http://forums.pcpitstop.com/index.php?showtopic=147953&st=003:00
draremanyone have a garmin 350?  I gots some questions03:00
drarempm me please, it's offtopic03:01
tzangerugh that thread was kind of useless :-(03:02
tzangerI can kill it, and I can kill the init levels03:02
tzangerI guess this is just a completely different version of init that I am used to03:02
chaoticwhizzsorry, from ,y limited exp in messing with runlevels Kubuntu doesnt seem to do much with them03:03
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shadowhywind does the write protect on sd cards, not matter in linux?03:17
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stdintzanger: only runlevels S and 1 don't run X, upstart will read an inittab if there is one, but it's config files are in /etc/event.d03:17
tzangerevent.d, I'll look there, thank you03:18
tzangerwhat determines the defualt runlevel in Kubuntu?03:18
stdintzanger: /etc/event.d/rc-default03:18
tzangerrc-default in event.d perhaps03:18
tzangerok good.  Now I have a starting point here.  Thank you so much03:18
stdintzanger: we use upstart now, it's a new type of init03:19
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/03:19
tzangernifty :-)03:19
tzangeryou seem to be a lower-level expert03:20
stdinI like to know a bit about everything :)03:20
Daisuke_Laptopooh, something new i can learn about ubuntu :D03:20
tzangerulimit -c will let me create corefiles but they are all named 'core' and if one exists it won't be overwritten by a newly crashed app.  Is there a way to tell the system to generate core.$$ ($$=pid of crashing program) or at least tell the system to overwrite an old corefile?03:20
tzangersome systems use the pid extension, some don't, but I've no idea how to go about setting that up03:20
Jucato"a bit" is an understatement03:21
stdinyou pick a couple things up after a decade or so :p03:22
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Jucato"a couple" is also an understatement03:22
Daisuke_Laptopubuntu for a decade, impressive :D03:22
stdinnot ubuntu, gnu/linux in general03:23
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stdinand besides, I use Kubuntu not Ubuntu ;)03:23
Daisuke_Laptopwhich is still technically ubuntu, just with kde and related packages :P03:24
stdintho, ask me a gnome question and I have no clue03:24
NickPrestastdin, the answer to a gnome question is: go into the menu, click a few dozen times and you will find what you're looking for :)03:24
stdinor start that regedit32.exe clone03:24
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bluekbAnyone here have experience getting proprietary nvidia drivers to work?03:26
tzangerI've been running Linux since around 1996, I know my way around the older systems very well, but trying to stay within the environment provided by dpkg and the nice configuration stuff becomes frustrating at times :-)03:27
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ChaosMachineMost of our experiance is in Pie.03:27
stdinI don't have and have never had and nvidia card, still I rewrote the guide so you should look at it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia03:27
pagan0neanyone know what package i need to install for mp3 support in feisty?03:27
stdins/had and/had an/03:27
stdinpagan0ne: libxine1-ffmpeg03:28
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pagan0nestdin: its listed as installed...03:28
stdinthen you should be able to play mp3s in xine based players, like amarok03:29
pagan0nestdin: kaffine and amarok both complain that mp3 support isnt installed03:30
stdinhave you restarted the players after installing the package?03:31
pagan0neyes, let me retry, as i just reinstalled it03:31
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letalissometimes you can just run the sample file then run an mp3. so long as you have the mp3 decoders installed and it fixes that glitch03:36
letalisthats been a problem for some time.03:36
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pagan0neletalis: how do i do that?03:37
letalisin amarok theres a sample ogg file in the playlist03:39
letalisplay it03:39
letalisthen play one of your mp3's03:39
letalisi dont know why it fixes it, but it does.03:39
pagan0nei just did, still complains, no mp3 support03:40
pagan0neinfact it crashes Amarok03:41
pagan0newhen i try to play a mp3 now03:41
letalishave you installed all the support plugins for amarok?03:41
pagan0nehow do i check?03:41
letaliswell the quickest way to know is whether or not youve used easyubuntu or manually changed the repository lists for the non free stuff03:42
pagan0nei have non free enabled03:42
pagan0neand have used easyubuntu in the past03:42
letalisits the easiest way03:42
letalisdoes the searching part for you.03:43
stdineasyubuntu = not supported, use at your own risk03:43
pagan0nestdin: thats why i dont use it anymore03:43
letalisif you follow their page to the letter itll work03:43
stdinletalis: doesn't matter if you follow their instructions, if it breaks there's often nothing we can do03:44
stdinhence it's not supported03:44
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Daisuke_Laptopalright, apparently something happened in the last compiz update (or xserver-xorg-video-intel update) that *really* broke C-F03:45
Daisuke_Laptopcommenting out the i965 blacklist entry is no longer working :\03:45
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letaliswell pagan0ne, you use linux at your own risk as well, if it hoses your system, youll have a hard time finding people to sue. :) ive used easyubuntu a couple of times and things went smoothly for me. its your call.03:46
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Daisuke_Laptopa bad call03:46
ghozalaubotu: plz can u give the frostwire support url03:47
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:47
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire03:47
pagan0neletalis: ive used automatix and easyubuntu in the past, usually with no ill effects, however i have noticed it does tend to break the ability to upgrade to gutsy03:47
NickPrestaghozala, http://www.frostwire.com/?id=support03:47
letalisim using gutsy as we speak03:47
Daisuke_Laptopand you shouldn't be recommending unsupported things like easyubuntu or automatix in the official support channel.  they aren't officially supported, but a recommendation in here could give the false impression that they are...03:48
Daisuke_Laptopjust sayin'03:48
letalisgranted, i upgraded it to 7.10 from 7.04 after i had used easyubuntu, but i havent seen it break deps yet.03:48
pagan0nein my VM i havent been able to upgrade to gutsy after using either easyubuntu or automatix03:48
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ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/03:48
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letalisyou know stfu wouldve worked and been far easier to say. i get the picture.03:51
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Daisuke_Laptopnot trying to come down hard on you03:53
pagan0neletalis: wasnt trying to knock it, i like the idea, but it didnt work for me anyway03:53
pagan0neis there a way to reconfigure alsa config files back to default?03:54
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Jucatonow now, be nice03:54
letaliswell i understand that each system is different and has different hardware. but software decoder codecs are primarily a software issue, which in turn would lead you to believe that that aspect would be universal across one linux distro.03:54
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letalisie. installation wouldnt run into catastrophic failures because your computer was simply 'different'03:55
evjunior09I need a program that records sounds on my computer. There was a program i used when i had windows called "Freecorder" when you click record it recorded  any noise that was played on the computer...any file like that for Kubuntu?03:55
letalisid go into adept and search for record03:56
letalisim sure theres something of use to you in the packages03:56
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letalisare you just looking for simple sound recording?03:57
letalisor multitrack stuff03:57
evjunior09just Simple sound recording03:57
letalisyeah se if Krec does what you are looking for03:58
Jucato!Info krec03:59
ubotukrec: sound recorder utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 352 kB, installed size 1056 kB03:59
Jucatoof course you need to setup your system to accept input from a mic..that part I've never been able to setup...03:59
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evjunior09ohh. Well i wanted a program that dosent need a mic04:00
evjunior09it only records what is played on the computer04:01
pagan0neevjunior09: try sound-recorder , i think it does what you want04:02
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ghozalaUBOTU: i ve installed frostwire and when i opened it i cant write anything in the search field typing is inactive what can i do04:03
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letalisUbotu is a bot04:03
ubotuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.04:03
Daisuke_Laptopask in the frostware forums!04:03
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DragnslcrHeh, apparently my girlfriend was told by someone that "its really hard to install anything with kubuntu"04:04
Daisuke_Laptopyou have to be connected to other "nodes" first04:04
Creationistghozala: Turn off Compiz/Beryl04:04
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Daisuke_LaptopDragnslcr: did you quickly respond by explaining that unlike that other os, "add/remove" programs actually does what it says?04:04
ghozalaso it doesnt work with compiz fusion04:05
DragnslcrHehe, pretty much04:05
letaliswell redhat was almost as guilty of leaving junk behind as windows.04:05
letalisbut that was the love of rpm.04:05
evjunior09pagan0ne: so in Adept type in Sound-Recorder?04:05
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letalisretarded package manager.04:06
pagan0neall lower case, but yes04:06
pagan0neletalis: RPM Hell, i remember the good old days04:06
DragnslcrRPM can barely even be called a package manager04:06
DragnslcrAnd yes, I know what the "PM" part stands for04:06
hgarciahas anyone installed any ksplash screens??04:06
pagan0neevjunior09: all lower case, but yes04:07
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kaiwait, adept?04:09
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kaioh, duh, adept04:09
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matookedo we have  Kubuntu release candidate too?04:11
pagan0neok, i can play mp3's in terminal, however, kaffine and amarok still complain about not having mp3 support04:11
kaisudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg04:11
kaihave you done that?04:11
kaiis amarok using xine?04:12
pagan0nekai: yep04:12
kaithat's the older package, isn't it?04:12
pagan0neDaisuke_Laptop: installed04:12
Jucatothat's the "new" package (not really new)04:13
pagan0neall packages are latest version04:13
kaithat's not what i mean04:13
Jucatopagan0ne: can you check if both Kaffeine and Amarok are using xine?04:13
pagan0neJucato: both using Xine04:13
kaitry running them from a shell04:14
pagan0neif i "play  filename.mp3" from terminal, it plays fine04:14
Jucatopagan0ne: have you restarted Amarok?04:14
pagan0neJucato: amarok, kaffine, and artsd04:14
Jucatoplay? that's for sox isnt' it?04:14
pagan0neJucato: yes04:15
JucatoI don't think sox uses xine, so it's not a good way to test. not really sure04:15
pagan0newell i wanted to test if mp3 plaback was possible off my system04:15
pagan0nehad it working in the past, but i started to doubt it04:16
pagan0neif i run kaffeine from konsole, i get 2 "BadDevice" Errors. and it loads fine, then will play anything but a mp3 file04:17
pagan0ne10:16:26 PM: xine: couldn't find demux for >/home/pagan0ne/Desktop/Documents/music/VoA/ - 01 - Ashes.mp3<      10:16:26 PM: xine: found input plugin : file input plugin04:17
evjunior09i downloaded sound-recorder and its not on my K list. How do i launch it?04:17
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CreationistAnyone here know the package name for the kde window decorations engine for Compiz?04:18
pagan0neevjunior09: right click on the desktop, select "run command" and type in "sound-recorder"04:18
kai@creationist: use apt:/ from konqueror to find it04:18
evjunior09Nothing happens...04:19
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DragnslcrCreationist- I use emerald, which works well04:19
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kaiemerald is great04:20
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pagan0nehrm, evjunior09i forgot its a terminal only program, it doesnt have a GUI04:20
pagan0neevjunior09: it only runs in terminal, run command > xterm   then type sound-recorder into the window, not very user friendly, but i beleave it does the job04:21
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JucatoDragnslcr: aren't emerald and aquamarine for Beryl?04:22
evjunior09pagan0ne: ugh it still wont open!04:22
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pagan0neevjunior09: it gives you a list of switches on how to use the program04:23
DragnslcrI think they were originally, yeah. emerald works with compiz-fusion. I would guess that aquamarine does as well04:23
wersthe wicd icon is on my systray but is invisible. any ideas?04:23
Zelutcan anyone tell me how I can use kde4 dolphin vs this d3lphin I have?04:24
pagan0neevjunior09: asin  "sound-recorder -f wav mywavefile.wav" will start recording all sounds as a .wav04:24
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kaialso, you could try man sound-recorder04:25
kaithat usually helps a lot04:25
JucatoZelut: not without installing (beta) KDE 4 packages04:25
Jucatowhich is, at this point, obviously still beta... so04:25
ZelutJucato: I don't mind.  I'm on a test-box04:25
pagan0neany idea asto what could be causing xine to not play mp3's right with all codec's installed as far as i can tell?04:26
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Jucatopagan0ne: hm... weird problem there..04:26
pagan0neJucato: yeah tell me about it04:26
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evjunior09how do i stop a recording>?04:27
pagan0nehold down control and press c04:27
pagan0nethats the universal command to stop ANY program from running in a terminal04:27
evjunior09How do i play it?04:27
tzangerpagan0ne: so long as it's listening ot signals, yes04:27
pagan0neuse your favorite media player and open it04:28
kai@pagon0ne: what does amarok say?04:28
pagan0netzanger: yes, well i should have said MOST ANY* (with some execeptions, not limited to but including.....)04:28
Zelutpagan0ne: there is also ctrl-\04:28
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pagan0nekai: says there isnt a demuxer, and sometimes promps me to install mp3 support and promptly crashes04:29
ZelutJucato: I get this error when I try on 7.10 RC: Err file: gutsy/universe libsoprano3 0.9.0~snapshot~2007-07-09-0ubuntu204:29
evjunior09pagan0ne: ugh it didnt word04:29
tzangerpagan0ne: gotta be careful, might be some lawyers in here :-)04:29
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ZelutJucato: file not found.04:30
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pagan0neevjunior09: well thats the extent of my skills with sound-recorder, you might check your mixer settings and make sure you actually had sound playing while it was recording04:30
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stdinZelut: is this a fresh install?04:31
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Zelutstdin: its been updated since tribe 5 i think..04:31
stdinZelut: what archive mirror are you using?04:32
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Zelutstdin: apt-mirror from us.archive.ubuntu.com which should be up to date..04:33
Zelutstdin: apparently it isn't but it shows no updates available.04:33
Zelutodd. manually wget'd that file and put it in place and it installs.. not sure why apt-mirror doesn't see it.04:35
stdinodd indeed04:36
stdingutsy is always in a state of flux, so that probably has something to do with it04:37
ZelutI would like to be able to use rsync for the mirror but I don't know how to filter to only 32bit that way.04:38
pagan0neif amarok is complaing about not having a demux plugin for mp3 files, what packages should i consider reinstalling?04:40
Zelutpagan0ne: I generally just install kubuntu-restricted-extras and throw everything at it.04:41
pagan0neZelut: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras?04:42
Zelutpagan0ne: yeah, but that'll do *all* the codecs, much more than just mp3..04:42
pagan0neZelut: i dont care, but it doesnt find the package, im on a 64 bit system? is there a amd64 version?04:43
stdinkubuntu-restricted-extras is a gutsy only package04:43
Zelutpagan0ne: it is a 7.10 specific package as well i believe..04:43
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pagan0neZelut: ahh, well i wont be moving to gutsy for about a week or so still....04:44
Airforce55555does somebody mind helping me install my wireless card?04:44
Airforce55555built in04:44
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DaSkreech!wifi | Airforce5555504:44
ubotuAirforce55555: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:44
Zelutpagan0ne: well then install the gstreamer0.10-* stuff04:44
Zelutpagan0ne: I don't remember which one specifically does the mp3..04:46
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ZombineSo... I'm pretty sure I compiled Fluxbox, what now?04:47
Zombine(Trying to install)04:47
pagan0neDaSkreech: lol, i find myself trying to ps and sudo on windows boxes all the time04:47
hydrogenor gst-plugins-fluendo for the "less ugly" mp3 decoder04:48
pagan0nehydrogen: just reinstalled it, amarok and kaffine still complain04:49
hydrogenwell.. yea04:49
hydrogenbecause amarok and kaffeine don't use gstreamer04:49
tzangerI tried apt-get remove gst-collection but that package can't be removed in canada.04:49
pagan0nehydrogen: what does?04:49
hydrogenpagan0ne: amarok and kaffeine use xine04:49
hydrogenpagan0ne: gstreamer is mostly used by gnome applications04:49
pagan0nehydrogen: what uses gstreamer? in kde?04:49
hydrogenpagan0ne: I'm not sure of anything off the top of my head04:50
stdinnothing in kde uses it04:50
Zelutpagan0ne: perhaps I should mention I just came from gnome.. so I may be wrong :)04:50
hydrogenstdin: some apps can use it.. kplayer maybe?04:50
stdingstreamer = gnome streamer04:50
pagan0neok, well yet another wrong turn04:50
xeviousi thought gstreamer = gnu streamer04:50
stdinhydrogen: don't know, never used it (i don't think)04:50
hydrogenpagan0ne: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs for mp3 in amarok04:50
pagan0nehydrogen: it is installed, and reinstalled04:50
DaSkreechpagan0ne: ls doesn't work Wha? lsn't it ls? ls --he.. Oh crap .. dir04:51
hydrogenAmarok used to use gstreamer, but it never got ported04:51
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hydrogenpagan0ne: and you tried restarting Amarok after installing it?04:51
pagan0neDaSkreech: yeah thats about it04:51
hydrogen(ported to 0.10)04:51
hydrogenAnd there will be a gstreamer phonon backend04:51
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pagan0nehydrogen: yeah, restarted amarok kaffeine and artsd to be safe, as well as making sure i didnt have any stale kaffeine or amarok processes04:51
stdinphonon will be soooo much better than what we have nwo04:52
hydrogenpagan0ne: and you are sure these are true mp3 files?04:52
pagan0nehydrogen: they USED to play, and the drive isnt corrupt04:52
hydrogenstdin: it won't reach its full potential until qt integrates it in qt4.404:52
pagan0nehydrogen: infact i ripped them from cd myself using amarok some time ago04:52
hydrogenpagan0ne: I'm not sure.. installing libxine-extracodecs should do it04:53
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DaSkreechstdin: hurry it up!04:53
hydrogenmaybe try restarting just to make sure something weird didn't get ghosted somewhere weird04:53
pagan0nehydrogen: thats what everyone says, but it is installed04:53
xeviouspagan0ne: restart amarok?04:53
stdinDaSkreech: huh?04:53
pagan0nexevxevious: yeah, restarted amarok kaffeine and artsd to be safe, as well as making sure i didnt have any stale kaffeine or amarok processes04:53
pagan0nexevious: yeah, restarted amarok kaffeine and artsd to be safe, as well as making sure i didnt have any stale kaffeine or amarok processes04:54
DaSkreechPhonon. It needs to hurry04:54
xeviouspagan0ne: huh.04:54
xeviouspagan0ne: feisty or gutsy?04:54
pagan0nexevious: feisty amd6404:54
xeviouspagan0ne: i'm on the same platform. let me give you a list of all the xine packages i have installed04:55
stdinDaSkreech: oh, well I'll let the kde folks know you want them to speed up :p04:55
pagan0nexevious: pm it to me04:55
DaSkreechstdin: If they can just get the other stuff to hurry up as well :)04:55
DaSkreechstdin: I honestly wanted KDE4 within 3 months of Vista04:56
stdinDaSkreech: beta3's just around the corner :)04:56
DaSkreechme wants NOW!04:56
stdinget svn then, like me :D04:56
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Solifugusmsg nickserv identify alpoly204:58
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stdinoh dear04:58
stdinnew password time :)04:58
stdinand now you know to always do that in the server tab04:59
DaSkreechGod thing you didn't use that as your bank password04:59
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DaSkreechBTW what bank are you with again?04:59
pagan0nei can hear him thinking "oh shit" now04:59
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ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.04:59
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SolifugusI keep different passwords for important things than for less important things... luckily04:59
pagan0nemy apologies04:59
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DaSkreechHi Airforce5555505:00
Airforce55555my wireless light is lighting up :D05:01
Airforce55555happen to know any good program that handles wifi?05:01
robinsonhow do i keep my laptop screen on? watching a movie on googlevideo, and must move the mouse every five minutes.05:01
robinsondont have this problem with Kaffeine because it emulates a mouse click, but i do with Flash video05:01
DaSkreechwirelss assistant?05:03
DaSkreechrobinson: Run kaffiene in the background >_<05:03
stdinrobinson: try "xset -s off" from a konsole or the run menu, also try commenting out anything to do with DPMS in /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:04
stdinrobinson: erm "xset s off"  (no dash)05:05
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robinsonstdin: i understand the DPMS, but what does xset do?05:05
hellhoundcan someone help me understand how to connect my pda to my kubuntu box via tcp/ip05:06
stdinrobinson: it's something I found a while ago (because of the same problem), it turns on and off some X features. like the screensaver/blanking05:06
stdinrobinson: "s off" turns the screensaver off05:07
robinsonis this permanent, or just for this session?05:07
robinsonif it works, i can just add a script to do it at boot05:07
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stdinjust for the session, and (on my laptop) until I close the lit05:07
robinsonthank you. i will try it now, and go back to the movie with the mrs. robinson05:07
robinsonthis need to be sudo?05:08
stdinno, run as you05:08
Airforce55555anybody know a good program that handles wifi?05:08
markgreeneHey guys. I went to play something on my laptop today and the sound does not work. On ANY program. I have played with ALL the mixer settings. Rebooted, everything. Where do I start with troubleshooting further?05:08
robinsontake effect immediately?05:08
stdinrobinson: yep05:08
robinsonthanks again05:08
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stdinAirforce55555: knetworkmanager ?05:10
stdinmarkgreene: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting05:10
Airforce55555is that already installed?05:10
markgreenestdin: I will thanks05:10
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stdinAirforce55555: on feisty and gutsy it is05:10
Airforce55555do i also need to install driver for my realtek card for wifi to work?05:11
Airforce55555or is broadcom enough05:11
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vellakdhow do I install the lame encoder for k3b05:13
DaSkreech!info lame05:13
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:13
vellakdWell, I tried...05:13
stdinno, you install the package called "lame"05:13
stdinwith adept05:13
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vellakdlet me guess: "apt-get install lame" ?05:14
vellakdwith a sudo in front of that?05:14
stdinyou can, or just use adept, whichever you like05:14
vellakdsince I am trying to become more proficient at command line, I'll stick witht that...05:15
vellakdthanks for telling me an alternate, though ;)05:15
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Darkrift411I aksed this in the wine chan, but nobody seems to be there, so maybe someone here would know05:19
Darkrift411 I have WOW running on wine, and when I try to load an addon that uses a seperate exe to attatch to wow, it cant find it. I normally run wow from command line. How could i go about making them both run in the same "bottle" ?05:19
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hellhoundcan someone help me understand how to connect my pda to my kubuntu box via tcp/ip05:20
evjunior09I wanna download Utorrent...is that possible with Kubuntu?05:22
hydrogenno.. utorrent is windows only05:22
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hydrogenhowever, you can use ktorrent or azeurus or one of the billions of other torrent clients05:22
evjunior09Would it have the same exact process?05:23
Juacom99please i need help05:23
Juacom99my kbar is not been showed :S05:23
hydrogenevjunior09: if by process you mean "can I add a torrent file and let it download" then yes05:23
Juacom99i was plaing with the panels's menu and i click on delet all05:24
Juacom99ind now i can't get them back :S05:24
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DaSkreechDarkrift411: Hangout on #winehq more :)05:24
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vellakdokay, another question: is there a unix/linux command to get the definition of words?05:27
vellakdthis is pure curiosity here, by the by.05:27
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tzangerhmm, are there no debug packages for xorg itself?05:30
DaSkreechthere is also magic-dic05:31
tzangerI see debug packages for libx11 and a bunch of extensions, but no xorg itself05:31
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stdintzanger: little known fact. there's a whole other archive that makes debug packages for all package05:33
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tzangerstdin: ?05:33
tzangerwhich archive is that?05:33
DaSkreech!info dict05:33
ubotudict: Dictionary Client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.10.2-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 228 kB05:33
stdintzanger: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40326/05:33
tzangerstdin you have been a veritible fount of timely information tonight, thank you so much05:34
stdintzanger: the debugging packages are <package>-dbgsym05:34
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Airforce55555booooooooooooooooooooyah i got my broadcom wireless card to work in 30 minutes XD05:37
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stdinnow just don't touch it again :p05:38
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tzangerstdin: that is amazing, thank you so much... now how did YOU find that05:39
stdintzanger: well, one of the devs told me :p05:39
DaSkreechAirforce55555: now don't stare at it or it will die just to spite you05:39
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Airforce55555but its soooooo pretty. the blue wifi light just makes my day XD05:40
stdintzanger: it makes debug packages for all packages, instead of the package maintainers having to try to do it manually (which is a headache, trust me)05:40
tzangerstdin: I bet05:41
tzangerthat's awesome, I was trying to find the right -dbg package05:42
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stdinjust do "apt-catch search xorg | grep dbgsym" and look in awe :)05:44
hitmanWillyisn't it apt-cache?05:44
stdinhitmanWilly: hush, it's 04:45, I'm allowed a typo or two05:45
hitmanWillyheh, central us05:46
DaSkreechOpen source folks are no fun :(05:46
DaSkreechThat's my favourite game to play with people online05:46
DaSkreechtell them the time where I am and get them to try and guess where I am05:47
DaSkreech of course everyone in open source passed geography at least ....05:47
hitmanWillyso, see if people can add/subtract?...lol05:47
stdinthere are websites to cheat with too05:47
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: most people (from the US) guess the US then England then get stuck05:49
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savetheWorldthats so sad.05:50
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hydrogenits better than guessing the us than canada then mexico and /then/ getting stuck05:50
hydrogenat least they have some idea of geography!05:51
wersthe latest konversation does not have a tray icon by default. How do I put the tray icon back?05:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thems - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:51
DaSkreechwers: did you look in the preferences?05:51
stdinSettings > Configure Konversation > Behaviour > General > Enable System Tray05:53
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wersDaSkreech: did thatttttttttttttttt05:56
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werssorry stdin... didnt notice05:56
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DaSkreechwers: Ok Cool :)05:57
wershmm.. why isnt the systray icon disabled by default?05:57
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stdinbecause some stupid annoying (but loud) person complained that the default kubuntu settings didn't fit in to the standard KDE settings and the setting was reverted meaning I, err you, have to re-apply some settings05:58
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hellhoundcan someone help me understand how to connect my pda to my kubuntu box via tcp/ip05:59
DaSkreechwers: It is disabled by default06:00
kostawhat is the filename of the default boot manager in kubuntu?06:00
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kostaand where is it located06:00
DaSkreechhellhound: Which PDA?06:00
DaSkreechkosta: grub06:00
stdinkosta: the grub configuration file is /boot/grub/menu.lst06:00
DaSkreech /boot/grub06:00
wersI want to sync my PDA too. I have a windows mobile-powered O206:01
wersbut raki keeeps on crashingg06:01
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hellhoundi am wanting to sync using FinchSync to Thunderbird and it works by connecting the pda to the linux box via tcp/ip but i do not know how to do that06:02
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pillowpantshas anyone here used teamspeak?06:03
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wershellhound: i want to do that too. the only syncing that I have successfully done with buntu is to sync my Pocket PC with Evolution via Multisync06:04
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pillowpantshow do you forward ports when dhcp is on?06:09
stdinyou really need a static IP06:09
hydrogenyou don't06:09
hydrogenyou use upnp perhaps06:10
pillowpantsdhcp is just more convenient, since i have computers come and go at my house06:10
stdinmost apps don't use UPnP06:10
pillowpantsand people need to use the internet06:10
stdinmost routers let you assign static IPs to MAC address06:10
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hydrogenor you can assign a static ip for one computer and leave dhcp up as well for others06:11
pillowpantsis it possible to assign myself a static ip, and yet have everyone else dhcp?06:11
stdinie, I use DHCP, but always have the same IP06:11
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hydrogenyou can do that clientside06:11
pillowpantsah, answered06:11
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pillowpantswhat do you mean by clientside?06:11
hydrogenon the computer06:11
hydrogenrather than on the router06:11
hydrogenright click on the networkmanager icon in the bottom right06:12
hydrogenand choose manual configuration06:12
hydrogenthen configure the interface06:12
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pillowpantshydrogen : i see06:12
pillowpantsill figure it out06:12
dorkfaceIs there a default speech recognition program in kubuntu?06:12
kostaunder what name are my sata disks? /dev/hdb* has only ide disks06:14
kostanot a single one there06:14
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pillowpantskosta : /media/hda#06:16
kostawhats up with that? i have 3 sata drives and I can boot in windows fine when I change the startup disk06:16
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pillowpantskosta : check there06:16
kostapillowpants: it's not there, it only lists ide drive where my kubuntu installation is06:16
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pillowpantskosta : im not sure then06:17
kostanow i remember that i didn't even see sata drives when I was installing kubuntu. do i need a sata driver or something06:17
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hitmanWillykosta: its in the kernel, supported out of the box06:18
pillowpantshydrogen : so when you say client side, i can configure a static ip for myself, even though my router is set up for dhcp?06:18
wersI'm temporarily adding debian's repos in order for me to install one package and will remove the repo after installing it. do you think it's fine?06:19
pillowpantshydrogen : so if i assign 192.168.100 for myself, how will the router always have it reserved for me? if it just gives them out to anyone06:19
hitmanWillyall the dhcp setting on the router does is allow incoming dhcp requests06:19
stdinpillowpants: just make sure the IP you give yourself doesn't/won't conflict with an IP another machine may get06:19
pillowpantsstdin : so give myself something far up like or something06:20
pillowpantsive never had more than 5 comps at my house06:20
pillowpantsso it wouldnt go that high up06:20
hitmanWillyyes, or set up the router to reserve that ip06:20
hydrogenor a range that dhcp doesn't assign06:20
stdinpillowpants: you router will have a range of IPs it assigns, like, so you pick one that's not in that range06:20
hydrogenif dhcp assigns .1 through .5006:20
pillowpantsim not sure how to do that on my linksys06:20
hydrogenassign yourself .11206:21
pillowpantsoh, i see06:21
hydrogenor something06:21
pillowpantsi didnt know you could go beyond that06:21
hydrogenyou can go 1-25406:21
stdinpillowpants: the router will have .1 tho, so .2-25406:21
hitmanWillythat's just for dhcp, anything in the 192.168.x.x range should work06:21
hydrogenthat as well is true06:21
pillowpantsthanks for the info06:22
DaSkreechwers: Define "fine"06:22
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wastedfluidhey guys; anyone else having problems with packages.gz w/ wine for the rc upgrade?06:23
pillowpantswhats "default gateway ip"06:23
pillowpantsi try to save the settings, and it gives me that error06:23
wersDaSkreech: safer than automatix :D06:23
DaSkreechwers: which app?06:23
pillowpantswers: automatix broke my system once06:23
wersDaSkreech: just ksync06:24
wersthen I'll remove the repo immediately06:24
DaSkreech!info ksyns06:24
ubotuPackage ksyns does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:24
DaSkreech`as in Kitchen Sync?06:24
hitmanWillypillowpants: that's set by your router, just browse to it and check what it is06:24
stdinpillowpants: default gateway is the IP of the router normally06:24
hitmanWillypillowpants: probably or .1.106:25
pillowpantsstdin : yeah, cause im not seeing the words "default gateway ip" anywhere06:25
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hydrogenpillowpants: its the ip of your router06:25
pillowpantswould local IP address fit it:
pillowpantsthe above06:25
wersoooh man.. just added two debian repos and guess what.. there's no ksync too. deymmm06:25
hydrogenif thats how you access your router06:25
hitmanWillypillowpants: yes, that should work06:25
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wastedfluidanyone have problems w/ "http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/fiesty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz" when trying to do r/c upgrade?    it's a 404 for me..?06:27
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stdinyep, it's down06:28
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wastedfluidblah.. guess no r/c upgrade for me.06:28
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stdinwell 3rd party repos aren't as reliable as the official ones06:29
stdinjust disable it06:29
wastedfluidk, i removed it from the list06:30
wastedfluidtry again06:30
stdinhow are you updating?06:30
wastedfluidkdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"06:30
stdingood :) let us know how it goes06:31
wastedfluidit's going now06:31
Jucatohm.... it should disable all 3rd party repos automatically though06:31
wersanyone has an idea on where I can get ksync?06:31
wastedfluidJucato: negative.. it didn't.06:32
stdingoogle + download source + compile = now you got ksync06:32
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wastedfluidok, AFTER you remove that 3rd party source.. it then tells you it'll disable, and you can reenable after upgrade06:33
Jucatohm... before running --version-upgrade, you enabled -proposed repositories right? then ran update, upgrade, restarted adept?06:34
Jucatoyeah it will disable them for your06:34
wastedfluidyep, i did that.. followed the instructions06:34
wastedfluidjust that extra 3rd party one got me.06:34
wastedfluidwee, it's going.. 723mb left :-)06:34
wastedfluidi don't think this will be done by the time I go to bed.. haha06:34
Jucatoit took me about 12+ hours :)06:35
DaSkreechJucato: ooooh06:35
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wastedfluidwow.   Well, it's downloading aroud 500k/s.. but i'm sure it changes radically.. so i'll guess about 45 minutes to download it all.06:35
Jucatoon my freakishly inconsistent 512kbps connection06:35
wastedfluidah, i have a 10mbps connection so i'll be okay06:35
wastedfluiddownload speeds are varying quite frequently.. from 200k/s, to 500k/s06:35
hitmanWillyyes, but about an hour at least to install everything06:35
wastedfluidI guess since the r/c announcement came out.. everyone is doing it06:36
wastedfluidi'll take a stab and say i'll be done in about an hour.. who knows. :-)06:36
wastedfluidi'm going to play some halo 3. . . thanks for the help again.  (stdin, Jucato)06:37
Jucatowhat did I do?06:37
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wastedfluidwell, you helped me yesterday... and i think i left without thanking you06:37
stdinmmmm, cookieeee06:37
wastedfluidso it's better left said twice at least, as opposed to none06:37
Jucatoheh no problem. used to it by now06:37
wastedfluidmay i ask why you do this?06:38
wastedfluidI think everytime I've needed help for quite a bit, you've always been here to help me06:38
JucatoI ask myself the same question everyday06:38
wastedfluidah.. lol06:38
Jucatotbh, I don't have a definite answer...06:38
wastedfluidyou'll get one eventually.06:38
wastedfluidor atleast I hope.06:38
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JucatoI hope so too :)06:39
scheater5He can answer every question....except why he answers questions06:39
stdinbetween patching a few kde bugs, and lurking in #kde Jucato like to help his fellow man (or woman) with their problems :)06:40
Jucatogo figure... :)06:40
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JucatoI patch bugs? O.o06:40
Jucatooh yeah ... right...06:40
stdina couple06:40
Jucatoone word here, a few words there :)06:40
stdinthe ones that annoy you the most anyway06:40
Jucatoah the ones that annoy me most I can't seem to fix :)06:41
ubotuWow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!06:41
DaSkreechstdin: ^^^06:41
hitmanWillybug #1, for instance...lol06:41
wordJucato: only one :-/06:41
stdinwell Jucato already gave me a cookie, so I'll give that one to Jucato06:41
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Jucatojust had lunch. no thanks :)06:42
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DaSkreechstdin: That was the idea :-)06:42
Jucatoword: sorry... but you really should get a less used nick :)06:42
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Daisuke_Laptop...grease is the word is the word is the word....06:43
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Daisuke_Laptopgood morning fellow non-conformists!06:43
DaSkreechDaisuke_Laptop: Who?06:43
Jucatolike pikachu? O.o06:43
DaSkreechI choose me!06:43
hitmanWillynah, a real non-conformist would be using bsd or haiku...lol06:44
DaSkreechI have that :)06:44
Daisuke_Laptophaiku's nice06:44
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Daisuke_Laptopgood to see beos carried on in some way06:44
stdinlike it matters :p06:44
hitmanWillyi've got a vm image of that lying around somewhere06:44
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Daisuke_Laptopsometimes...  you have to let off a little steam06:47
DaSkreechsteamisim I choose you!06:48
ubunturosdoes, one have to restart tomcat for changes to take effect to a servlet file?06:48
stdinI think you have to at least reload it06:49
ubunturosstdin: reload tomcat?06:49
stdinyeah, something like "sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat reload"06:50
ubunturosstdin: umm, so, in a sense, servlets aren't dynamic as JSP pages, is it?06:50
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stdinI can't really say for sure, I don't use tomcat06:51
stdinso I'm just guessing ;)06:51
ubunturosstdin: ok06:52
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wastedfluidwee; upgrading starting now :-)06:57
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ubunturos!hi | gunashekar07:05
ubotugunashekar: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:05
gunashekarthanks ubunturos07:06
gunashekarhi uboutu07:06
ubunturosgunashekar: you missed it ;)07:06
wastedfluidwow, this is taking logner than I anticipated07:07
gunashekarwhat did i miss?07:08
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ubunturosgunashekar: the nicktab completion ;)07:08
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gunashekaric ubunturos07:10
ubunturosgunashekar: :)07:10
gunashekar: tries to figure out...07:11
ubunturosgunashekar: ... ?07:11
gunashekar:: what is nicktab?07:12
DaSkreech!tab | gunashekar07:13
ubotugunashekar: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.07:13
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ubunturosgunashekar: well, that should have been separate words nick tab-completion (are you C++ fan?)07:13
=== dsmith__ is trying to setup a nfs share in fstab, could anyone help?
gunashekarnope am a layman in every profession07:14
DaSkreechgunashekar: That's a brilliant line07:14
hitmanWillydsmith__: its just like setting up a regular fs, except type would be nfs07:14
ubunturosgunashekar: umm, those ":" and "::" probably indicate something else ;)07:14
dsmith__last time I tried it it did not work07:15
hitmanWillyand the device would be the ip/folder you are setting up07:15
gunashekarjust tried to figure out if those :: would make the text appear different07:15
gunashekari like learning things the long route - trial error error error success07:16
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dsmith__how does this look? / auto rw,user,noauto0 007:16
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gunashekarhi sangeetha  : looks like you are from my part of the world07:17
dsmith__space after /Disk-007:17
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hitmanWillycan't remember if you need the : after the ip07:18
hitmanWillybeen awhile since i set one of these up07:18
dsmith__lets try07:18
hitmanWillyalso, no / at the beginning IIRC07:19
sangeethagunashekar: am from south india07:19
gunashekarsame here, chennai07:19
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dsmith__NAS light is working, mount has not come up yet07:20
sangeethame too chennai07:21
gunashekarjust figuring out how to install on my laptop07:23
ubunturosgunashekar: install kubuntu?07:23
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gunashekaryes gutsy kubuntu07:23
gunashekarmanaged to install07:24
dsmith__/ rw,user,noauto0 007:24
gunashekarbut sound is not working07:24
dsmith__two slashes to start //192.x.x.x.07:24
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dsmith__its working07:24
Dr_willisdepending on the laptop chipset. there can be sound issues. :(07:24
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dsmith__my panasonic cf-51 has sound issues with Fiesty07:24
gunashekarits a compaq presarion V600007:24
ubunturosgunashekar: you should wait for a few more days to do that.07:25
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Dr_willisfriend at work has a laptop - and as  of right now under gutsy he has big sound issues.. :) as in no sound.07:25
hitmanWillydsmith__: i figured it was something like that, ok07:25
ubunturosgunashekar: 18 october 2007, precisely :)07:25
dsmith__hitmanWilly: thx07:25
dsmith__counting down07:25
gunashekaryes ubunturos07:25
gunashekarim aware of october 18 ,but am being adventurous07:25
hitmanWillythe current rc should be more or less the same thing07:25
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gunashekarsangeeta you still here07:26
hitmanWilly6 days isn't going to make a whole lot of difference for patches, updates07:26
Dr_willisI hope the # of updates slow down. :)07:27
gunashekarits more fun patching as the patches are released07:27
Dr_willisbeen a lot of them this week.07:27
hitmanWillythere always are right before release07:27
hitmanWillyran feisty for about a month before the official release date07:28
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hitmanWillyspeaking of which, i need to run an upgrade on my buntu box, been letting it lag behind...07:28
gunashekarwb flegma07:29
DaSkreechcan I put a dir with ftp on the command line?07:29
Dr_willisit seems i update/upgrade.. then by the time its done.. theres MORE  to update. :)07:29
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  Huh?07:29
hitmanWillyyeah, i was updating twice a day right before the feisty release :P07:29
Dr_williscp ftp://whjatever.com/porn/stuff  mystuff ?07:29
gunashekarhuh doc07:30
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Dr_willisDaSkreech,  check out the 'fuse' tools. They proberly got a fuse-ftp filesystem  module07:30
DaSkreechnot a get a put07:30
hitmanWillymaybe wput?07:30
DaSkreechJust thought maybe I should ook at rsync07:30
Dr_willisTHey got ebverything else for fuse. :) its a handy tool07:30
sgroverAnyone have tips where I can look to get my laptops VGA port working properly?  It causing nothing but grief when I try to hook up a projector....07:31
Dr_willisif you want all programs to see the ftp  site as a normal directory. check out the FUSE stuff07:31
Dr_willissgrover,  a lot will depend on the laptop video card/chipset07:31
hitmanWillythere's a fuse ftp driver?...nice07:31
sgroverIt's an Acer TravelMate 4400.  The function-F5 keys aren't working.07:31
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems07:31
sgroverDr_willis: Intel chipset07:31
Dr_willisthere fuse stuff for all sorts of things07:31
Dr_williseven kioslave fuse items. and other things ive neve rheard of07:32
Dr_willissgrover,  id say hit the laptop forums07:32
hitmanWillya userspace fs driver framework is very handy07:32
Dr_willistheres dozens of intel chipsets. :) heh . may need to do some manual tweakingof the xorg.conf07:32
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sgroverDr_willis: Link?  Not sure which ones are the "best" ones... but thanks for the07:32
sgroverDr_willis: I've done the manual tweaking many times - Intel 950 chipset...07:33
Dr_willissgrover,  the ubuntu foruims have a laptop section, then thers google.07:33
sgroverThanks.. pulling up the ubuntu forums now.07:33
Dr_willisIve never had a laptop with intel video. so never looked into it07:33
Dr_willisi have heard of a LOT of issues with the intel/laptop stuff however. :)07:34
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sgroverI've gotten it to work once.  Had to configure KDE to use a second monitor.  But now doing that messes up and I need to do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix it.07:34
Dr_willis!find intel07:34
ubotuFound: intel2gas, rng-tools, xserver-xorg-video-intel07:34
Dr_willis!find 81007:34
ubotuFound: xserver-xorg-video-i810, i810switch07:34
Dr_williswell bbl .07:34
sgroverDr_willis: That was for the video card fix to get it to see the 1200x800 resolution.07:34
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DaSkreech!sound | gunashekar07:36
ubotugunashekar: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:36
gunashekarwill try that ubotu07:36
gunashekarenable sound system is checked07:37
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)07:37
gunashekargood bot07:38
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ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!07:39
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hitmanWillythat one never gets old :)07:39
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hitmanWillyanyway, folks, i'm out...later07:42
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trevorOkay...  I now have the 7.10, and it's not too bad...07:45
trevorReally, though, I'd wait a week...07:45
gunashekaryea i agree trevor07:45
trevorMy wireless card?07:46
stdinin your PC07:46
gunashekarcrashed a few times yesterday, today it has been updated07:46
trevorOkay, well, stdin knows about my wireless problems...07:46
gunashekarmy only problem now is wireless card07:46
ubunturosgunashekar: which one is it?07:46
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stdinwireless problem... ask ubotu07:47
gunashekarHuwaei USB modem07:47
trevorCan't remember the rest...07:47
trevorUbotu's not been able to help me...07:47
stdinmy wireless just works, so I've never had to do anything to make it work07:47
trevorI have an Acer, which brings in more sets of problems...07:47
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trevorCause they route everything through acpi...07:47
gunashekarubotu: Huawei USB Modem07:48
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:48
trevorI'll get it somewhere...07:48
trevorYou don't understand...07:48
trevorI've been through every Wifi doc on the internet twice...07:48
trevorThe forums don't have my answers...07:49
trevorI got it working before, but then I messed it up, and had to reinstall, and can't remember how the hell I did it...07:49
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sgroverFixed my laptop -> projector problem.  Turns out that I just need to restart the Xserver - without reconfiguring it - when the VGA cable is plugged in...07:50
sgroverJust in case it helps anyone else...07:51
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sgroverseems SOOOOOO obvious now.. :)07:51
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ubunturossgrover: is that a LCD projector or a DLP ?07:52
gunashekarwhathanks grover , thT HELPS07:52
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sgroverubunturos: either.07:53
sgroverany VGA out was being ignored - the Fn-F5 key did nothing...07:53
pillowpantsi have an issue07:53
pillowpantswith sound playback07:53
pillowpantslike say, teamspeak and audacity07:53
pillowpantsthere seems to be no playback candidate for them07:54
pillowpantson teamspeak im permanently muted07:54
ubunturossgrover: oh. ok. DLPs don't seem to work with Kubuntu 7.04 (irrespective or restarts or anything)07:54
pillowpantswhich is highly irritating07:54
pillowpantsanyone know what this is offhand?07:54
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sgroverubunturos: can't honestly say I've tried with a DLP.. or mor to the point, not sure.  I'll know for sure next time I'm trying to go through a projector (next week) rather than an LCD monitor.07:55
D3f0anyone knows how to make nvidia hw accel work for 1520 laptop?07:55
gunashekarmy sound card works after i changed audio device to OSS07:55
sgroverD3f0: install the nvidia commercial drivers?07:55
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sgrovercheck ubuntuguide.org - nice how to's there for setting up Nvidia07:55
flobruit_i think that teamspeak can't work with alsa, so you actually need to run  it with the oss emulator07:55
pillowpantsflobruit_ : how can that be?07:56
pillowpantsflobruit_ : and/or how would i go about doing that07:56
pillowpantscould i just change the system sound from alsa to oss?07:56
D3f0they install perfectly, but laptop shutdowns due overheat (error)07:56
ubunturossgrover: ok07:57
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flobruit_I haven't used it in a while, but I remember that you have to install alsa-oss, then run "aoss teamspeak"07:57
sgroverD3f0: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_setup_nVidia_drivers_in_7.0407:57
Ashexwhy is it that the shipit team for the kubuntu discs is so anal about sending me discs?07:57
gunashekaryes you can try that pillowpants07:57
pillowpantsflobruit_ : hmmm07:57
AshexMy past 3 requests have been denied07:57
flobruit_pillowpants: I know it sounded kind of weird to me too, but it did work07:57
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pillowpantsflobruit_ : i had it already installed aparently07:59
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pillowpantswould there be any aversion to just using oss as my main sound driver?07:59
pillowpantswhats the difference anyway07:59
pillowpantsi have the same problem with audacity07:59
pillowpantsi can record, but cant playback what ive recorded07:59
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flobruit_the problem with oss is that you can't have more than one application sending sound to your speakers... so if gaim beeps when you receive a message, then you need to restart your media player to get sound again...08:01
gunashekarwireless modem is Huawei USB modem08:01
pillowpantsflobruit_ : ah, makes sense because thats happened to me before08:01
pillowpantsflobruit_ : could i use another sound system?08:01
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pillowpantslike "enlightened sound daemon"08:01
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wastedfluidhi guys.  I just upgraded to 7.10.. but my volume control on my laptop is broke; it stops at 11%.. and if I choose "PCM" as master channel, using my keyboard to raise/lower volume no longer owrks08:02
flobruit_pillowpants: I guess you could, but it seems that alsa is the standard these days, I haven't tried anything else08:02
pillowpantsflobruit_ : yeah08:03
pillowpantsthe fix for teamspeak didnt seem to do it though08:03
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flobruit_pillowpants: take a look at this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=485809, maybe I missed something in my explanation08:09
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pillowpantsflobruit_ : thanks08:11
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DaSkreechNight all08:32
jeff__kanyone know how to start up the archive manager from konqueror to create a new archive?08:32
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flobruit_jeff_k: right click and select "compress"08:33
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jeff__kit doesn't show up as an option when i do that ... but what's strange though is i can left click on a zip file and it opens it up with archive manager08:35
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jeff__kor if i right click on a zip file it gives me an option to "open with archive manager"08:35
jeff__kbut starting "archive manager" to create a new zip file seems to have me stumped...08:36
flobruit_what version of kubuntu are you using?08:36
jeff__ksorry, kde 3.5.6 in fiesty08:36
flobruit_I'm running gutsy, so that might have changed, but it seems to me that this functionality was there before...08:37
jeff__kyeah i was at 3.5.7 at one point and there were definitely different options on the konqueror right click08:37
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jeff__ki will fiddle for a while and go up to 3.5.7 if i can't find anything08:38
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lucaho everyone08:46
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lucadoes someone know which package installs the /etc/network/interfaces file?08:47
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pillowpantsquick question, in teamspeak08:49
pillowpantswhat is the default output device?08:49
pillowpantsim using the front mic plugin08:50
pillowpantsand im not sure its working08:50
Lynoureluca: dpkg -S filepath   normally shows things like that but in this case it does not, probably because some script generates it, does not just install08:50
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lucaLynoure: yeah thanks :( Got the same answer in #ubuntu+1. I need to check it though...I think that tor does not function here anymore because of that...08:51
Lynoureluca: I think  netbase08:51
pillowpantsin my volume mixer settings i have the front mic set for default sound record etc08:52
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pillowpantsits my assumption that teamspeak would use that as well08:52
pillowpantsis this true or no?08:52
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jtmoneyanyway for me to see which process/daemon is running on a specific port?08:52
jtmoneyopenvpn is conflicted with port 500 =(08:52
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the-ermI think netstat has an option ...08:52
lucaso a reinstallation of netbase would recreate that file?08:52
the-ermnetstat -l08:53
jtmoneyawesome, thanks08:53
Lynoureluca: I would not recommend reinstallation, maybe reconfiguration08:53
lucaso how would I do it?08:54
Lynoureluca: because without it, it's no net for you.08:54
the-ermWhat file are you missing?  I just walked in.08:54
lucaLynoure I guess so...but again, what is the command to reconfigure? :)08:55
Lynoureluca: dpkg-reconfigure --force netbase   probably08:55
Lynoureluca: oh, and throw  sudo  at the front08:55
Lynoureluca: but you can manually edit the file, too08:55
the-ermHas anyone here managed to get /etc/init.d/shaper to work right with ssh connections?08:55
lucaand I just saw that I do have a backup of the original configuration08:56
Lynoureluca: see  man interfaces  for editing hints08:56
Lynourebackups ftw :)08:56
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lucaok resrtarting the network08:57
lucanope, the issue with tor did not solve08:58
lucaIt still is not able to bind the correct port and thus does not start08:58
Lynoureport?  /etc/network/interfaces does not deal with ports08:58
LynoureWhat's the actual thing you are trying to achieve?08:58
lucayeah but I did *not* act on any other files before tor started with its not-functioning fit :'(08:59
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lucait cannot bind to - it says it cannot bind the address09:00
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Avatar-Heljarawell this is fun09:01
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Lynoureluca: you are actually trying to bind to a local port and not a public one?09:01
Lynoureluca: (I'll have to focus on work, so my help might seem sporadic/halfminded)09:02
lucauh maybe....I dunno how it should work ports-wise09:02
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lucaI never touched the configuration about ports09:03
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Lynoureluca: it's not the port that is suspect, it's the ip...09:03
lucaand thanks anyway... :)09:03
lucaso what should I try to solve the issue? any ideas?09:04
Lynoureluca: that's local ip, basicly "me"-ip, not your public one.09:04
lucayeah I got that09:04
LynoureSorry, I have never set up tor...09:04
lucaok thanks anyway09:04
lucait seems I am the only one with such a problem on the net :P09:04
lucaguess I will go to #tor later :D09:05
Lynourebut the config files for it might ask which interface to bind to, possibly. and there are probably good howtos, and have you tried the same with sudo  for the fun of it?09:05
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lucanot functioning, with different error09:06
lucait tells me that ~/.tor does not belong to su09:06
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lucaLynoure well ok gotta go now :) thanks for the help09:09
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vershow do i install java runtime09:11
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Jucatovers: in Add/Remove Programs, look for Sun Java, check it for installation and click Apply Changes09:15
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iNoobhelpzor plox09:15
iNoobi have a problem creating document directory under my home directory09:16
iNoobit says cannt create directory09:16
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Jucatohow are you trying to create the directory?09:16
iNoobmkdir documents /home09:17
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JucatoiNoob: you can't really make directories under /home directly09:17
iNoobpermission denied09:17
Jucatoit has to be in *your* home = /home/username/09:17
dwidmannhrm, that's really weird, the clock configuration thing has all of the date/time modification stuff grayed out09:17
iNoobim running on livecd09:17
iNoob /home / buntu09:17
JucatoiNoob: yes. the username would be ubuntu. but just type "cd ~" to get to your home09:18
iNoobi knew it09:18
schistehey guys09:20
schisteis running on a livecd09:20
schistejust install it !09:20
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iNoobsometimes it doesnt run09:23
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iNoobif u have newer models09:23
iNoobof computers09:23
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Avatar-Heljarashould be fine to run on a new machine, unless you have specialist hardware09:26
iNoobi almost crash my new laptop09:26
iNoobit freezed in the middle of installation09:27
iNoobproblems with nvdia or something09:27
iNoobanybody noe a place where i can get computer with linux built in already09:28
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iNoobDell recommends Windows Vista Business in their website >.<09:31
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iNoobk later09:32
iNoobthanks jucato uve been a great help09:32
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KaviAnyone here?09:39
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pillowpantswhat is DNS?09:40
pillowpantsas in DNS ip09:40
pillowpantsim having connection issues09:40
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JucatoDomain Name Server09:41
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rcrookHi all, Upgraded to gutsy last night and found a problem with the boot and ldap. The boot seems to hang at klogd  (or dbus if klogd disabled) if I have ldap enabled in nsswitch.09:41
rcrookLDAP works once the system is booted and it is re-enabled09:42
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WaltzingAlong!gutsy | rcrook09:42
uboturcrook: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information09:42
rcrookok... thanks09:42
Jucatopillowpants or pillowpants_: basically it's a server that you connect to (through the DNS IP address) that resolves/converts domain names (like www.kubuntu.org) to ip addresses (like and vice versa09:42
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pillowpants__Jucato, im in windows09:47
pillowpants__Jucato, all i need to type was ipconfig/all09:48
pillowpants__i forgot the command09:48
Jucatook... although it really doesn't matter..09:48
JucatoDNS is not a Linux thing09:48
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pillowpants__i was setting up a teamspeak server09:48
WaltzingAlongpillowpants__: ipconfig /release  or /renew09:48
pillowpants__and need to get a static ip so the ports would forward09:48
pillowpants__but windows networking handles DNS and i had no idea what to put09:49
WaltzingAlongpillowpants__: so set up a static address through start/settings/network connections/lan09:49
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ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke09:59
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xeviousoh sorry. #kubuntu-offtopic10:00
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nebiHola,a alguno le ha pasado que desde la ultima actualizacion del sistema ,cuando intenta ver videos como youtube o cualquier otro por el navegador , este se queda clavado?10:01
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raylu!es | nebi10:02
ubotunebi: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:02
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hsystem-xHi there, im trying to use a logitech headphone/microphone USB port.10:02
rayluoh, he's already there =\10:02
rayluhsystem-x, and..?10:03
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hsystem-xhow do i configure it on KDE , ?10:03
hsystem-xit is suppose right to works if i select it from kmix?10:04
rayluhm...i have something similar to that10:04
hsystem-xi mean microphone works but cant hear anything on the headphones.10:05
rayludoes it show up in kmix?10:05
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bluekbI am having trouble with the kde screensaver not locking.10:16
bluekbor blanking10:16
Avatar-Heljarais that in 7.04 bluekb?10:16
Avatar-HeljaraI had the same problem, but it lied with the drivers10:17
bluekbAvatar, erm, not sure.10:17
bluekbHow do I find out?10:17
Avatar-Heljaralol no idea :P10:17
Avatar-Heljarawhat graphics card are you using?10:17
bluekbAvatar-Heljara, Trying out ubuntu/kubuntu (usually I am a fedora/redhat user)10:17
bluekbThough, now I think of this I had the problem with an older version of fedora, and just switched to xscreensaver10:18
bluekbGraphics card is nvidia, with nv (free) drivers10:18
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Avatar-HeljaraAre you trying to run a 3d screensaver?10:19
bluekbit's the slideshow screensaver, which afaik is only 2d10:20
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Avatar-Heljarais the driver you are using on the CD, or did you download the binary from NVidia?10:20
bluekbWhen I switch it to blank screensaver I have a similar problem.  Different in that it blanks, but doesn't lock.  With the slideshow, it just doesn't blank10:20
bluekbI am not using the nvidia drivers.10:21
bluekbI am still using the free drivers.10:21
bluekber, no.  This is a new computer from dell. :)10:21
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Avatar-Heljarawell you would think they would install the correct drivers, huh?10:22
bluekbYeah, I had been annoyed by that10:23
bluekbBut it might be the fault of uncorrelated updates: the driver has to match the kernel, and nvidia has been known to lag.10:23
bluekbI haven't looked into that much.10:23
bluekbSo you think it might be a video driver problem?  That seems a bit odd, since it was working for a week, until now.10:24
bluekbSorry, that last detail should have been mentioned sooner10:24
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Avatar-HeljaraI had the same problem with my ATi Radeon x1300 Pro Silent until I removed the vesa drivers and installed the correct ones from ATi10:24
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bluekbAvatar-Heljara, cat /etc/lsb-release says I am running fiesty 7.0410:25
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Avatar-HeljaraWhen entering ss it would simply show a picture of the desktop, like the ss function failed to load properly. The pic would be frozen (could tell by the clock) but upon moving the mouse the screen would update with the lock in the center of the screen10:25
bluekbHmm.  That's something I hadn't thought of checking--whether the clock freezes when it should be blanked.10:26
bluekbThe odd thing is, when I use the "test" button in kcontrol settings, it seems to work fine.10:26
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Avatar-Heljaracant remember if that was the same case for me. I know that it worked in the little preview though10:27
ardchoilleAvatar-Heljara , bluekb: That happens to me now and then and I am using the nvidia drivers.10:28
bluekbSearching google doesn't give me good results yet.  I wonder if someone else might have the magic touch for a solution on this one.10:28
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bluekbwhat drivers should I look for in the output of lspci to be sure?10:29
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Avatar-Heljarapossibly nv-glx?10:30
Avatar-HeljaraI wouldnt know really, my PC has an ATi in it10:30
bluekbxorg.conf tells X to use nv, (nvidia isn't working yet, I've tried and given up for now, will probably try again later)10:30
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bluekbBut lspci doesn't list either. Hmm...10:31
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WaltzingAlong!paste | bluekb10:31
ubotubluekb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:31
WaltzingAlongbluekb: could you paste your lspci results?10:31
Avatar-Heljaraany nvidia driver experts in the channel?10:32
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ardchoilleAvatar-Heljara: Which nvidia card do you have?10:34
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Avatar-HeljaraMy motherboard has an Nvidia 6150 (largely unused), but my knowledge of this comes from my ATi Radeon x1300 Pro Silent10:35
WaltzingAlongbluekb: how about lspci ?10:35
raylusorry hsystem-x, i have no idea :P i can't get mine working either10:36
ardchoilleAvatar-Heljara: That card requires the nvidia-glx driver. Wanna set it up?10:36
rayluthough i bet aplay would play individual files with it; g'night10:36
hsystem-xok this is my problem : i have a logitech headphones/micro USB, on ubuntu I at least can play music and whatever just configuring fro mcontrol panel, but on KDE how do I do that? or at least on amarok....10:36
Avatar-Heljaranot really, I only have one monitor anyway :P10:36
hsystem-xthanks for any support.10:36
bluekb01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0423 (rev a1)10:36
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Avatar-HeljaraUnless you have a really good guide, ardchoille10:37
bluekbI believe it's an 8600 series, but I need to double check...10:37
ardchoilleAvatar-Heljara: I have installed nvidia drivers on over 100 machines and have helped many people in this channel10:37
hsystem-xThe headphoens appear to be recogized.10:37
hsystem-xi also can select them from kmix10:37
hsystem-xnothing is on mute.10:38
Avatar-Heljaraardchoille: thanks anyway mate, but honestly I couldnt be stuffed bothering with it :P10:38
hsystem-xi can also talk thru microhpone and hear myself on headphones, but cant get music for example or videos to hear on my headphones.10:38
ardchoilleAvatar-Heljara: ok10:38
hsystem-xit send output to speakers.10:38
Avatar-Heljaramy ATi card is fine as it is, I have CSS running on Kubuntu no probs10:39
Avatar-Heljaraardchoille: Thanks anyway10:39
ardchoilleAvatar-Heljara: yeah, if it aint broke, don't fix it :)10:39
hsystem-xCSS , counter strike source?10:39
hsystem-xlol how?10:40
hsystem-xsteam stuff does it works?10:40
Avatar-HeljaraSteam through wine10:40
Avatar-Heljaraits tricky but posible10:40
hsystem-xand what configuration on wine?10:40
hsystem-xand you doent have problems with steam updates?10:41
Avatar-Heljarathere was the original 26% one, but I got round that with nice -1910:41
Avatar-Heljarabut no further probs as of yet10:41
hsystem-xnice, any other configuration on wine?10:41
bluekbardchoille, I might be interested in attempting to get nvidia working.10:41
hsystem-xor just wine cd-SETUP-EXE?10:41
Avatar-Heljaraonly OSS sound10:42
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Avatar-Heljarasteam was done with wine msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi10:42
Avatar-Heljarathen through that download my css10:42
Avatar-Heljaraand it runs10:42
hsystem-xhaha but what if i want to install it from cds?10:42
Avatar-Heljarayou also need tahoma.ttf installed into wine's directory10:42
Avatar-Heljarathen wine setup.exe should be fine10:42
hsystem-xok good.10:43
hsystem-xand FEAR?10:43
hsystem-xdoes FEAR run well too?10:43
Avatar-HeljaraI havent tried it10:44
Avatar-HeljaraI love the game, but I havent tried to make it run on linux yet10:44
hsystem-xok, thanks anyway, i know there is a linux server for FEAR( in the cds)10:44
Avatar-Heljarawell same with BF2, but BF2 has some major graphics issues running through wine (eg: the ground is invisible)10:45
Avatar-Heljarait is a true shame10:45
hsystem-xdoes you have to configure 3d stuff on wine conf?10:45
hsystem-xdirect x stuff..10:45
Avatar-Heljaraonly for some apps, where there is most likely a tutorial on how to do so10:46
Avatar-HeljaraBTW WineHQ ranks FEAR as 'garbage' on linux10:46
hsystem-xis there a command to see if im running alsa or oss?10:46
Avatar-HeljaraProbably. Do I know it? no.10:47
hsystem-xjust asking, my bad.10:47
Avatar-Heljarajust look in KMix?10:47
hsystem-xnop, not there.10:48
Avatar-Heljarawell I suppose it depends on the application - the system provides both services (so long as installed). One probably wont work10:49
hsystem-xanyone running succesfully logitech headphones USB10:51
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forgottentruthhow do i change screen resolution if i dont see it on the kicker menu?12:10
forgottentruth:[ have i overlooked it?12:10
tsdgeoskrandrtray will give you a system tray icon to change resolution12:12
forgottentruththnx <312:13
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pffxHi! I want to update my feisty to gutsy. But I have non-kubuntu KDE and have some problems with lanching adept. May somebody tell me, what I need to add to the sources for "Recommended updates" and "Pre-release"12:16
WaltzingAlongpffx: you should be able to use update-manager;   update-manager -d12:17
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pffxWaltzingAlong: but I can't lunch adept to make pre-release updates :(12:20
pffxThey neet to be done at first12:21
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WaltzingAlongpffx: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -y upgrade && update-manager -c -d -p &12:26
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znspoka molchuny12:30
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arun_does anyone have chandler installed?12:51
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uberDirksenorpedro floods the server12:54
uberDirkplz remove him12:54
senorpedrono that was a mistake12:55
senorpedroeveryone makes mistakes12:55
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Jucatostop that please12:57
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Jucatoooh you're uber now? :D12:57
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arun_does anyone have chandler installed?01:01
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zgmf-x20ahey can someone please help me.  i need to get my cd rom drive up and running on my laptop.  it is an asus f3sv-a1.  the hardware works perfectly fine, and used it to install kubuntu, yet it is not recognized01:11
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ubuntuIf i want two HDD's on my system the first C: is mount / and the second D: ?01:19
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zgmf-x20ahey can someone please help me.  i need to get my cd rom drive up and running on my laptop.  it is an asus f3sv-a1.  the hardware works perfectly fine, and used it to install kubuntu, yet it is not recognized01:20
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emilsedgh!repeat | zgmf-x20a01:20
ubotuzgmf-x20a: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience01:20
emilsedghzgmf-x20a: there shouldnt be a problem with your cdrom, what happens when you put a cd into your cdrom?01:21
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zgmf-x20aemilsedgh: nothing.  i hearit run, but no window pops up01:21
emilsedghzgmf-x20a: go to /media and see what is there01:22
zgmf-x20aemilsedgh: also, k3b doesnt detect any cd rom device hardware01:22
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zgmf-x20acdrom0 and sda1 emilsedgh01:23
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emilsedghzgmf-x20a: and what is the cdrom0's icon?01:23
zgmf-x20ait is a folder icon emilsedgh01:23
emilsedghzgmf-x20a: is the cd inside cdrom?01:23
zgmf-x20aemilsedgh: yup there is a cd in there now01:24
emilsedghzgmf-x20a: open konsole01:24
zgmf-x20aok its open emilsedgh01:24
emilsedghzgmf-x20a: and type sudo mount /dev/cdrom01:24
zgmf-x20aemilsedgh: mount: can't find /dev/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:25
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emilsedghgh, long time is passed from my last mount-by-hand, cant remember correctly, wait a minute please zgmf-x20a01:26
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zgmf-x20aemilsedgh: cool sounds good.  thanks again for helping outt :)01:26
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emilsedghzgmf-x20a: please copy your /etc/fstab to pastebin and give me a link01:28
zgmf-x20aemilsedgh: ok one moment01:28
emilsedgh!paste | zgmf-x20a01:28
ubotuzgmf-x20a: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:28
zgmf-x20aemilsedgh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40365/01:30
emilsedghzgmf-x20a: sudo mount /dev/hda01:31
zgmf-x20aemilsedgh: thats my hard drive though?  it is already mounted??01:31
zgmf-x20ao wait01:31
zgmf-x20aemilsedgh: mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist01:32
emilsedghno, your hard drive is /dev/sda01:32
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emilsedghgh, dunno :(01:33
zgmf-x20aemilsedgh: lol... awwwww01:33
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zgmf-x20ahey can someone please help me.  i need to get my cd rom drive up and running on my laptop.  it is an asus f3sv-a1.  the hardware works perfectly fine, and used it to install kubuntu, yet it is not recognized01:34
schistemis it mounted?01:35
schistelook with the graphic mode01:36
schisteSystem Settings > Drives and file system01:36
zgmf-x20aschiste: that is the problem.  it is in the /media section, but shows up as a folder icon01:37
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schisteyou can read your cd01:37
zgmf-x20aschiste: no, it cannot be accessed.  no cd media works in the drive.  also, k3b says there is no dvd hardware, or burner,01:38
schistefirst the easy way01:39
schistedo you see your cdrom device01:39
schistein system settings01:39
schistedrive and file system01:39
zgmf-x20aschiste: ok let me check01:39
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zgmf-x20aschiste: oooooooooo it says its there, but disabled!01:40
dhqi just upgraded to gutsy01:40
schisteso enable it ;)01:40
WaltzingAlongdhq: congrats to you01:40
dhqnow vmware wont start http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/6401:40
zgmf-x20aschiste: erm, how, theres no left click options01:40
zgmf-x20aright click i mean01:40
schisteon the bottom01:40
dhqWaltzingAlong, some thing to do with modules01:41
schisteyou should have a button01:41
schisteadministrator mode01:41
zgmf-x20aomg, lol, there it is.  hahaa01:41
WaltzingAlongdhq: i had to grab vmware-server from vmware.com with gutsy rc01:41
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dhqWaltzingAlong, how??01:41
WaltzingAlongdhq: access www.vmware.com in your web browser01:42
schisteI don't remember, but normaly you should have a box (when you have enabled it) with "mount on startup01:42
WaltzingAlongdhq: install it the manual way01:42
dhqWaltzingAlong, how01:42
zgmf-x20aReturn code from mount was 32.01:42
zgmf-x20a"mount failure"01:42
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ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers01:42
schisteok so01:42
schisteopen a shell01:43
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zgmf-x20aschiste: yup01:43
schisteand then type kate /var/log/syslog01:43
zgmf-x20aschiste: ok, it is open01:44
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schisteyou should have stuff about your cdrom01:44
schistebetter paste your syslog to pastebin01:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:44
zgmf-x20aschiste: its liek a million years long man01:44
schisteyeah that's normal01:45
schistepast it01:45
schistethe last one01:45
zgmf-x20aschiste: ok man one moment01:45
schisteyou should have the date at the beginning of each line01:45
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zgmf-x20aschiste: it doesnt seem to want to paste, it might be too long?01:46
schisteok we'll try just a thing01:48
schistejust go to /dev/sr0 and /dev/sr101:48
zgmf-x20aschiste: ok sounds good to me01:48
schisteit's a reader/burner01:49
zgmf-x20ait says, the file or folder soes not exist01:49
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schisteweird, I've got to go01:49
zgmf-x20aschiste: yes, both.  dvd burnder, readr etc01:49
JuJuBeeHowdy...  Anybody ever use cssh successfully?01:49
schistewhat is the path in your system settings01:50
schistefor the cdrom01:50
zgmf-x20aschiste: /dev/hda01:50
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schisteWe could try something01:51
schistefolks can someone review what I'm saying01:51
schisteto see if I'm not saying crap01:51
schisteyou could try01:51
zgmf-x20aschiste: lol01:51
schistesudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /media/cdrom01:51
schisteI haven't done that for ages01:52
zgmf-x20aschiste: mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist01:52
schisteit used to work on some problem like yours01:52
schistesudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda/ /media/cdrom01:52
schistewith the /01:52
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ardchoillezgmf-x20a: You have to have a disk in the cdrom before mountin git. You don't mount device4s, you mount file systems.01:52
schiste(so stupid sometime01:52
schistehe has a cd inside I guess01:53
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zgmf-x20aschiste: ardchoille yes i have a cd in there01:53
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ardchoillezgmf-x20a: When you put a new disk in it, doesn't it popup a window asking what you want to do?01:54
schisteardchoille: it doesn't01:54
schisteand he can't enable it with the graphic mode01:55
zgmf-x20aas schiste is saying, no it does not.  also, k3b says there is no hardware detected for buring, etc01:55
schistewhat's the device name for cdrom ?01:55
schistezgmf-x20a: can you find your device name with lspci ?01:56
zgmf-x20aschiste: device name... as in hardware name?  im not sure, it came with the laptop, i dodnt build this pc01:56
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ardchoillezgmf-x20a: Is hald polling storage devices? "ps aux | grep hald-addon-storage"01:57
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ardchoilleoh, it's a laptop. Those things are always a headache.01:58
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zgmf-x20aschiste: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Asus_F3SV#DVD-recorder01:58
zgmf-x20ashould be the same hardware, not sure what im looking for though01:58
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zgmf-x20aschiste: hmmm apparently its this LG HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T20N02:00
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zgmf-x20aschiste: ermmm... hello02:07
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zgmf-x20ahmm i guess they are gone... can anyone else help out???02:09
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WaltzingAlongsome of us are here still02:12
franco_hay alguien que hable espaol y me pueda dar una manito? :P02:12
Jucato!es | franco_02:13
ubotufranco_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:13
WaltzingAlonghola franco_02:13
franco_como va?02:13
franco_jajajaja no paso 2 minutos aca y ya me estan echando cheee02:14
JucatoEnglish only franco_02:14
WaltzingAlongsi aqui parliamo inglese02:14
franco_:S aburridos02:15
franco_bueno me voy a kubuntu es =) gracias!!!02:15
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pepijn(sorry, but posting was so low)02:53
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bazhangAs Kubuntu gets ever closer to perfection, I may have to go to IRC-Anonymous02:54
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bazhanghi CJari02:56
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:57
CJariI'm trying to record some audio using microphone, but I dont know why the krec isn't receiving the sound?02:57
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CJarisorry, any one knows how to test if microphone works (while setting the volume levels from KMix)?03:09
Ash-FoxHm, is there even a ident daemon in the repositories? I can't seem to find any.03:09
llutzAsh-Fox: apt-cache search identd03:10
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Ash-FoxWhich, I doubt it's a ident daemon03:10
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Juacom99and anyoen pelse help me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40375/03:11
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toxicfumehi all03:13
toxicfumedoes anyone here have experience with linuxmce? i need helop03:13
matte_hi there03:13
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matte_i can't connect with my SSH-Server from the internet03:14
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matte_ssh localhost is no problem...03:14
llutzmatte_: you are using a router?03:14
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matte_yes. port 22 is AFAIK forwarded. i get to the login, but he tells me, that my login is incorrect. my command: "ssh <hostname> -l <user>"03:16
matte_nmap also shows that port 22 is open...03:16
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_fanghello, just a question for you. is kubuntu 7.10 rc also coming with compiz fusion or just ubuntu?03:17
matte_llutz: here is my sshd_conf: http://nopaste.info/59f303eb61.html03:17
bazhangtoxicfume: what's wrong with linuxmce?03:17
llutzmatte_: did you try to login as root?03:17
matte_no, as user03:17
bazhang_fang: easy to get, just a few items to install.03:17
lavacano201014_fang: i havent a clue03:18
lavacano201014_fang: my kubuntu install has AIGLX, if that helps03:18
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_fangbazhang: well, because i have an ati grapics card, and it can be really a pain to install it correctly, and i've heard that ubuntu gutsy configures it automatically. but since i'm not a great fan of gnome, i was considering trying kubuntu03:19
Jucato_fang: not by default unfortunately (or fortunately)03:19
_fanglavacano201014: ati card?03:19
lavacano201014_fang: nVidia03:19
Jucato_fang: there's a restricted manager utility in Kubuntu 7.10 for easy installation of restricted/proprietary drivers03:20
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Jucatoit should ease your paoin03:20
lavacano201014_fang: but it is an old machine, so...03:20
matte_llutz: should i login as root?03:20
_fangi was just wondering if it will be easy to install. i guess i'll wait the final version and some reviews over the internet xD03:20
llutzmatte_: no, (it's disabled)03:20
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo03:20
bazhang_fang: easy to install; to get working properly with card, depends a bit.03:21
Jucato(I just love that :P)03:21
_fangJucato: the biggest problem is that the ati restricted driver does not support composition, which is required for beryl/compiz fusion, afaik03:21
llutzmatte_: look into /var/log/auth.log for more info03:21
Jucato_fang: I see.. haven't had any experience with ATI at all (thank $DEITY)03:21
llutzmatte_: i can't see a reason for that error in sshd-config03:21
_fanganyway! thank you very much. with the final release i'll try it and come here to tell what happened \o03:22
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bazhang_fang: good luck!03:22
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matte_llutz: me nether... When i try to login over internet, nothing happens in my auth.log03:23
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ubotuOh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!03:24
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Jucatoyou came in here just to see that didn't you? :P03:25
ChaniJucato: just stumbled on one of your blog posts... why on earth wasn't it on planetkde?03:25
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Jucatohahah! :)03:25
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Jucatomostly out respect for older people :)03:27
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urliayuda en espaol03:28
matte_llutz: Interesting... When i disable the port-forwarding i get to the login, too03:28
urliayuda en espaol03:28
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:28
Kachnahow's called that thing for kde like make menuconfig? O.o03:28
Kachnaplease O:-)03:28
llutzmatte_: do you have sshd running on your router too?03:28
ChousukeKachna: kconfig or qtconfig maybe03:29
Kachnamm not present here,will try apt-getting,thx03:29
matte_i don't think so. i can't see any ssh-configuration on it...03:29
llutzmatte_: strange...03:30
zgmf-x20ahey anyone know how i get my Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN up and running?03:30
matte_llutz: really...03:30
llutzmatte_: check the portforwarding again, an error there's my only idea03:30
matte_i'll look, what nmap now sais...03:30
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matte_well, i've closed port 22, but nmap sais, it's still open :-/03:31
nixternalthanks Jucato and Chani :p03:31
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Jucatoyou're very much welcome nixternal :)03:31
llutzmatte_: are you sure to use your own external-IP? :))03:31
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Ben_Cshello. had a problem with realtek built in net-card. installed an old 3com 3c595 card. any known problems with this one?03:34
Chousuke3coms should work03:34
ChousukeThen again, realteks should usually work too (at least somehow) :/03:35
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matte__llutz: yes, the ip is allright.03:36
ekrengelare there any "monitor and display" commands that i can use for scripting in terminal?03:37
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Ben_CsChousuke: realtek works but randomly disconnects. on "dmesg" i see eth1 (3com) is "half duplex" is it ok? i feel like the net is fast...03:38
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zgmf-x20ahey anyone know how i get my Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN up and running?03:40
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:41
ChousukeBen_Cs: half duplex is suboptimal, but it should work just fine if your internet connection isn't too fast.03:41
ChaosMachinedoes anyone have any experiance in getting lm_sensors to work?03:41
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ChousukeBen_Cs: half duplex means it can't send and receive data at the same time, so you lose some performance.03:42
Ben_CsChousuke: wait, naybe eth1 is realtek. how do i find out which "eth" is which card?03:42
Chousukebut if your internet connection is slower than 10Mbps then I don't think it'll make that much of a difference03:43
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ChousukeBen_Cs: hmm, good question03:43
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Ben_CsChousuke: when i "ifconfig" i get that eth1 is connected, and the only connected card is 3com. so i guess eth1=3com. but when i "dmesg" i get: eth1: RTL8168b/8111b at 0xf8850000, 00:19:66:08:33:1f, XID 38000000 IRQ 17             so now i'm confused03:45
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matteLllutz: Ok, it really seems that my router has an own ssh-server... thank you for your help so far...03:46
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ChousukeBen_Cs: I don't know :/03:46
Ben_CsChousuke: anyway the card LED and the SWITCHs LED show i have 100mb connection03:47
Chousukeno, I mean to the internet03:47
Ben_CsChousuke: but i feel the home net is fast as 100mb03:48
Chousukethe switch says 100Mb because that's what your nic is using to communicate with the switch03:48
zgmf-x20ahey anyone know if there is something similar to envy for wireless networking03:48
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ChousukeBen_Cs: as it should be03:48
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Ben_CsChousuke: so "half duplex" is referred to internet only? i don't understand03:49
Chousukeit refers to the mode of operation03:50
Chousukeit's not as fast as full duplex when you send and receive data at the same time03:50
matteLbye @ all03:50
Chousukebut it may not matter.03:50
Ben_CsChousuke: so "half duplex" is almost as fast as "full duplex"?03:50
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Ben_Csi see03:50
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ChousukeBen_Cs: full duplex only means you can send data at 100Mbps while receiving at 100Mbps03:51
Chousuketheoretically :P03:51
Ben_CsChousuke: maybe it's "half duplex" cause the card is old and that's the way net cards worked at that time?03:51
Chousukemay be03:51
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Ben_Csok thnaks03:51
Chousukeit should work at full duplex if it's newer than five years old though03:52
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Ben_CsChousuke: no, it's from an old P2 :)03:52
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Chousukebut I don't think you'll have trouble even if it is in half-duplex mode. :P03:52
Ben_CsChousuke: yeh, as i said, the net seems fast enough03:52
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Ben_Cswell thanks for the help.03:57
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JuJuBeeIs there a program that will allow me to view another comptuers desktop (watch what another user is doing)?04:00
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BrocawaySono tornato...04:00
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dbgltHi guys... I'm trying to update to 7.10, I'm using adept manager, but when I click "Manage repositries" it brngs up a manual list of repositries to edit, not the config box that the example gives04:01
dbgltwhat am I doing wrong?04:01
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Jucatodbglt: check if software-properties-kde is installed04:01
Jucatoinstall if not04:01
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WaltzingAlongdbglt: update-manager -c -d -p04:03
JucatoWaltzingAlong: um.. Kubuntu...04:03
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WaltzingAlong:D is that not part of kubuntu, alright04:04
Jucatoand not "optimized" for Kubuntu either04:04
Ben_Csif i have kubuntu gutsy and i get the updates. so when the official release will be out, will my kubuntu update to it?04:04
WaltzingAlongBen_Cs: sure04:05
Jucatoyou just update and update and update... then bam! broken system04:05
Jucatoer... gutsy!04:05
harmentalhey guys...shall we expect arobat reader 8 anytime soon in the mainstream repos?04:05
Ben_Csok. thanks04:05
Jucatoharmental: not possible because of licensing issue afaik04:06
WaltzingAlongharmental: no04:06
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dbgltJucato: installing it now04:10
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WaltzingAlongJucato: so what is the kde way to dist-upgrade ?04:15
Jucatousing Kubuntu's own upgrade tool (through adept, based on update-manager-core)04:15
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devianceWhen I start Konversation, it opens the server list and doesnt show any of the buttons like to close it04:17
deviancewhat Can I do?04:17
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rico_deviance, is this for Konversation only or for other windows as well?04:17
WaltzingAlongi was just using compiz but i saw only black inside maximized windows04:17
devianceOnly for Konversation, but I am using Compiz04:18
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emilsedghJucato: why this unstable-thing is becoming default in distro's? im happy that its not shipped with kubuntu04:19
devianceIs the RC for Fesity out?04:19
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devianceThrought so, Somebody should update the topic then.04:20
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Jucatoemilsedgh: actually it's only unstable as far as KDE is concerned...04:21
Jucatodeviance: btw, that's a known bug in konvi + compiz. you might want to ask in #konversation about the fix. I forgot how to04:21
devianceThanks Jucato04:22
emilsedghJucato: no, try to open a game in window (for example), everything will be stopped.its unstable...04:22
Jucatowhat game? and while using compiz?04:23
kaminixHow can i remove a bunch of vorbiscomments from an oggfile? I don't want them just empty, but not there at all.04:23
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WaltzingAlong!info vorbiscomment | kaminix04:24
ubotukaminix: Package vorbiscomment does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:24
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WaltzingAlongkaminix: anyway, the package vorbiscomment allows adding or modifying vorbis comments04:25
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JucatoWaltzingAlong: um...04:26
Jucato!Info vorbis-tools | kaminix04:27
ubotukaminix: vorbis-tools: several Ogg Vorbis tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1-6build1 (feisty), package size 98 kB, installed size 732 kB04:27
Jucatoit's not in a separate package04:27
WaltzingAlongJucato: thanks04:27
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PhinnFortJucato: regarding compiz/konvi, the konversation devs aren't overly happy about compiz04:28
Jucatoyeah but iirc there was a fix for it in the svn version of konversation04:29
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kaminixJucato: Yes, I have the vorbis tools and checked the manual for vorbiscomments, nothing there. :s04:31
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Jucatodon't ask me. I just gave the package that installs vorbiscomments :)04:32
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Jucatovorbis-tools contains oggenc (an encoder), ogg123 (a playback tool), ogginfo (displays ogg information), oggdec (decodes ogg files), vcut (ogg file splitter), and vorbiscomment (ogg comment editor).04:32
kaminixYeah, I know that much too :)04:33
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WaltzingAlongkaminix: man vorbiscomment           you will need to use it in the -w mode04:34
WaltzingAlong!tagtool | kaminix         or perhaps that04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tagtool - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:35
berkesCan I use tail -f to follow multiple files?04:35
kaminixWaltzingAlong:        -w     Replace comments with the new set given either on the command line with -t or from a file with -c., so I just replace them with nothingness? Will this actually remove the prescence off the comments entirely? (my mp3 does not take comments, replacing with id3v2)04:35
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WaltzingAlongor maybe the rudy vorbis tagger   http://docs.code-monkey.de/ruby-vorbistagger/   kaminix04:36
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Kachnaany idea why make menuconfig works but make kconfig says no rule to make target when compiling kernel?04:37
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annemarieanyone knows where to find w32codecs.tar.gz?04:37
kaminixHmm... I'll try the tagtool04:38
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annemarieand where to unpack this?04:38
Daisuke_Laptopwhy don't the codecs from the repos work?04:39
Jucato!w32codecs | annemarie04:39
ubotuannemarie: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs04:39
WaltzingAlong!codecs | annemarie04:39
ubotuannemarie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:39
annemarieDaisuke_Laptop: because medibuntu does not have them for gutsy04:39
WaltzingAlong!gutsy | annemarie04:39
ubotuannemarie: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information04:39
Daisuke_Laptoplook up04:39
annemarie*doing now04:40
annemariethanks all04:40
Daisuke_Laptopthe #ubuntu+1 part :)04:40
gelinannemarie: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/ find here04:40
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Daisuke_Laptopgelin: you apparently missed where she said she was running gutsy.04:41
harmental80Jucato: what kind of licesing issue?04:42
harmental80Jucato: is there any backport report where to find Reader 804:43
Jucatonot really familiar with the specifics. you can ask in #ubuntu-motu for the details04:43
Jucatobasically we can't redistribute it04:43
harmental80i meant backport repo04:43
Jucatoso it can't be in any repo04:43
harmental80mmm.....its a shame....04:43
Jucatoyes. shame on adobe04:44
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BluesKajhowdy all :)04:46
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WaltzingAlonghow to i get firefox, for example, to be in the language set for the user in kmenu/system settings/regional and language settings?   the kmenu and kde apps have changed names but not firefox or thunderbird or other gtk apps04:54
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WaltzingAlongshame on adobe for not releasing a gpl compliant reader for gnu/linux?04:57
Daisuke_LaptopWaltzingAlong: you just answered your own question a couple minutes back.  they're gtk, not qt, kde language settings don't apply to them, you'll have ot find individual localisations for those04:59
jeff__kanyone know how to adjust the volume to a usb phone headset (my keyboard volume control just changes my speaker volume, not headset)04:59
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WaltzingAlongDaisuke_Laptop: the language packs for each (say firefox) are installed, how do i get firefox to use it?05:00
devianceRed hat and Novell being sued :O05:00
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Jucatoand before it gets worse...05:01
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:01
Jucato(just in case)05:01
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Daisuke_Laptopdeviance: that kinda sucks, but worse is the hard drive importing being stopped because of a patent troll.05:02
devianceHard drive importing?05:02
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Gast876so here i am again05:03
Gast876this is my paste for ifconfig05:04
Daisuke_Laptopyou have lo and two nics05:04
Daisuke_Laptopwhat's the problem?05:04
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Gast876my routing ip is setted to on every reboot05:05
Daisuke_Laptopdo you use both nics?05:05
Daisuke_Laptopand how was that pastebin supposed to explain that?05:05
Gast876no just one05:05
Gast876the eth105:06
Daisuke_Laptopi assume eth0 is onboard and eth1 is a card05:06
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Gast876yeah ithink05:06
Gast876but no05:06
Daisuke_Laptopif that's the case, you might try disabling the onboard in the bios05:06
Gast876i think both are onbard05:07
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Daisuke_Laptoptwo onboard sounds a little odd05:07
Gast876its a laptop05:07
Gast876i sont really know05:07
Daisuke_Laptopthen two onboard sounds *really* odd05:07
Gast876okay perhaps not05:07
Daisuke_Laptopare they both wired?05:07
Gast876no one wireless and one ethernet05:08
Gast876my problem is the wireless connection05:08
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Daisuke_Laptopthe output of iwconfig may be more useful05:08
Gast876ok mom05:08
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:08
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:08
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WaltzingAlong!info ktorrent | combo05:09
ubotucombo: ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu2.1 (feisty), package size 2347 kB, installed size 8852 kB05:09
Gast876just need a bit05:09
buzdoes suse ship a special version of amarok? according to their docs, you can select sound effects like hall?!?05:09
comboWaltzingAlong: thx :) can u tell me also where can i find some configuration manual ? :}05:09
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WaltzingAlongcombo: config manual for ktorrent? ktorrent's help?05:10
Daisuke_Laptopbuz: this isn't suse, you realise that, right?05:10
buzDaisuke_Laptop: yes, that's why i ask05:10
buzstandard version does not have that, but i'd like to have it ;)05:10
Daisuke_Laptopso why are you asking *us* if *suse* ships a custom version05:10
Daisuke_Laptopthat makes no sense05:10
buzwell cant find the feature in kubuntu ;)05:10
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comboWaltzingAlong: uhm... not exactly.. i mean some FAQ how to set all options most correctly ? :)05:11
Daisuke_Laptophave you looked in the EQ?05:11
WaltzingAlongcombo: so just for torrent in general?05:11
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html05:11
Gast876this is the iwconfig05:11
buzeq does eq stuff, no hall etc05:11
comboWaltzingAlong: THX :}05:11
Daisuke_Laptopi see "large hall" in there.05:11
buzif they mean that by effects, then suse docs are braindead05:12
Daisuke_LaptopGast876: i'm just going to go out on a limb and guess your wireless network isn't called ---05:12
buz(which isnt entirely unlikely, that's how i remember suse ;)05:12
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Gast876yes it is05:13
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Gast876nice huh :)05:13
Daisuke_Laptopokay, that solves that05:13
Daisuke_Laptopaside from a slightly lower link quality than i would usually prefer, it looks okay...  perhaps i should ask what the problem with the wireless is :)05:14
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Daisuke_Laptopwell, i see a lot of invalid misc05:14
Gast876i have to set the routing ip on every restart05:14
debianI have debian, how can I get kdm to use the loginlist in winxp?05:14
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WaltzingAlongGast876: if you needed, you could set it in /etc/network/interfaces  or through the gui at kmenu/system settings/network settings05:15
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Gast876yeah i do05:15
Gast876but it does not appear to sty there05:15
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spirooHello, I wonder how do I run binary files like .bin? It has been working before but now when I run ./keygen.bin it does not happening anything.05:15
Gast876i have to set it to connect to the internet05:15
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Gast876(i think so)05:16
Daisuke_Laptopspiroo: 1) illegal software cracking is bad.  2) is it executable?05:16
debianis compix beryl? DO i need NVIDIA drivers? and how do I run compiz/beryl?05:17
BluesKajspiroo:  sudo ./keygen.bin05:17
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lapisdecori need to know wich usb wireless "pen" client should i buy for Ubuntu/Kubuntu, thanks!05:18
spirooDaisuke_Laptop: 1) I know, but it is a must sometimes, 2) yes05:19
spirooBluesKaj, I have tried, no luck05:19
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Daisuke_Laptoptry sh keygen.bin05:19
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Daisuke_Laptopor if that doesn't work...05:19
Daisuke_Laptopbash keygen.bin05:19
Daisuke_Laptopsince dash is the default shell now05:19
WaltzingAlongbash ./keygen.bin05:20
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spirooIt says. cannot execute binary file05:21
Ash-Foxchmod +x keygen.bin && ./keygen.bin05:21
spiroonope does not work05:22
WaltzingAlongthen you should figure out which file this really is05:22
Ash-Foxtype: file keygen.bin05:22
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Ash-FoxAnd paste the result here.05:22
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WaltzingAlongwhich file will do05:22
Ash-FoxI just told you the command.05:23
Ash-FoxType "file keygen.bin"05:23
spirookeygen.bin: setuid setgid sticky ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, statically linked, corrupted section header size05:23
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spirooWhat does that mean?05:25
spirooIt has been working before, I jsut do not know why now.05:26
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llutzspiroo: you are using evil software on 64-bit linux?05:28
spirooZend Studio is good :)05:28
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llutzthen pay for usage05:29
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spirooThat good it is not :DI re-download the file instead.05:29
spirooBTW, will (X)Ubuntu 7.10 be released 18 oct as said?05:30
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spirooJust wonder, because I still got extremely many bugs. And yes I have updated to RC-release.05:30
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Ash-Foxspiroo, often corrupt headers in binaries indiciate a old virus that effected elf binaries.05:32
spirooAnd I extremely looking forward to KDE 4 :P Hope Kopete and many other bugs will be fixed.05:32
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spirooAsh-Fox: Haha okay.05:32
Ash-FoxKDE4 will not be default in Gutsy05:32
spirooI know05:32
spirooJust said it05:32
buzspiroo: kopete will ship with 4.105:33
buzthere might be a kde4.0 compatible port of the current one05:33
spirooWill 4.0 not support Kopete :O05:33
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buzi'm not entirely sure05:33
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buzbut by anymeans, you will sitll have kde3 anyhow05:33
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Daisuke_Laptopfrom what i've heard, it won't be default in hardy either05:33
buzwhich is a shame, seeing that it is a LTS release, but i can see why it wouldnt be default05:34
Ash-FoxKopete still hasn't reached version 1.05:34
spirooJust sighs to that KDE now going for wanna be Windows Vista. I hate the toolbars on desktop.05:34
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Ash-FoxI use pidgin under feisty (made my own repository for it on http://packages.quickfox.org/ )05:34
spirooKopete is the only one that works half.05:34
buzbut unlike vista, you dont have to use it05:34
spirooI know, but still05:35
spirooPidgin sucks05:35
buzbesides, i happen to like the screenshots ;)05:35
spirooNo IM works05:35
buzyeah, badly so05:35
Ash-FoxPidgin actually works.05:35
buzit's just uhm weird05:35
Ash-FoxI want two things n Kopete: Inore and privacy settings05:35
Daisuke_Laptopspiroo: what, on kde4?05:35
spirooNone working to transfer files, send offline messages, share files and so on.05:35
buzkopete will work on kde405:35
Ash-FoxAnd guess what.. Kopete does not providing a working ignore or privacy settings.05:35
buzevery app will, as long as you have proper libs installed ;)05:36
Daisuke_Laptopbuz: not really05:36
spiroobuz: Yes I hope so05:36
buzkicker maybe not05:36
Ash-Foxspiroo, I can send offline messages just fine on networks that support it. As for sharing files. I've always used HTTP for that, so no biggy.05:36
spirooKopete does support ignore05:36
buzDaisuke_Laptop: so kde4 has magic that preventds kde3 libs from being loaded?05:36
Ash-FoxKopete has a ignore function, it just doesn't work.05:36
hydrogenbuz: huh?05:37
Ash-FoxI should know, I've tried to use it, repeatedly.05:37
spirooI do not file share on msn, but sometimes people actually want to send files to me and it does not work.05:37
buzhydrogen: Daisuke claimed not all apps would work05:37
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buzwhich is quite contrary to what i see with the beta05:37
hydrogenbuz: all apps will work.. some just won't be kde4 apps05:37
spirooAsh-Fox: hehe okay, did not know that.05:37
buzhydrogen: yeah thats what i'm saying05:37
hydrogenyou will be able to run kde3.5 apps using kdelibs3.5 on a kde4.0 desktop05:37
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Ash-Foxspiroo, it also lacks privacy settings.05:37
hydrogenjust as you are able to run kde4 apps using kdelibs4 on a kde3.5 desktop05:38
spirooHope that they will change to latest MSN protocol05:38
hydrogenhowever, thats twice as much memory and harddisk usage05:38
buzhydrogen: that sometimes gives somewhat funny results though ;)05:38
Ash-FoxI can't believe they have added webcam support but not a working ignore.05:38
spirooAsh-Fox: What you mean with privacy settings?05:38
tenfjHi all. What is the best/cleanest way to aqquire 3d desktop? compiz-fusion/beryl/compiz? What about aquamarin? Currently in gutsy... thanks05:38
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Daisuke_Laptopi didn't say not all apps would work05:38
Ash-Foxspiroo, as in, "do not allow people who are not in my contact list to message me" type stuff.05:38
Daisuke_Laptopi was under the impression he was still talking about file transfer and other functions in pidgin05:39
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spirooah okay, does not need that anyway :D05:39
hydrogen as for kopete... a version of it should be availible for kde4.0, but it won't be the awesome version, that is being put on hold until 4.105:39
Daisuke_Laptopbecause that isn't handled by external libs, it's internal, and having certain libs won't change that05:39
hydrogenwhich is really where all the awesomenes will come otu05:39
Daisuke_Laptopsorry for any misunderstanding there...05:39
buzAsh-Fox: people who arent in my list were never able to msg me in kopete05:39
spiroohydrogen: Do you know when KDE 4.1 will be released?05:40
hydrogenspiroo: a while atfer kde4.005:40
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spirooA while?05:40
hydrogena while05:40
spiroolike a year? :D05:40
buzi'm particularly interest in seeing koffice 2.0 matur05:41
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hydrogenprobably 6+ months05:41
hydrogenbut I'm not sure05:41
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hydrogenthere needs to be time for application developers to work on their applications05:41
hydrogenand develop them05:41
hydrogenbecause they were really shafted for kde4.005:41
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spirooHmm okay, to bad then. Hope somebody fix the file transfer somehow.05:41
hydrogenbuz: yea, koffice2.0 is very impressive currently05:41
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spiroobittorrent does not work correct either. :P Seems to be long digging to solve file sharing.05:42
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spirooKoffice me like :D05:42
spirooBut not the name though :D05:42
Ash-Foxbuz, they do on my list. On Gadu-gadu, ICQ, MSN etc.05:43
spirooI hope in the future Microsoft and Linux could cooperate with some applications so we do not have to switch between .doc and other files.05:43
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Ash-Fox.doc format is dead.05:43
spirooBut I guess, that is in my dreams05:43
spiroo.docx then05:44
savetheWorldspiroo: just swithc to openoffice.  it will handle both (or all 7 as thecase may be.. :-) )05:44
buzyeah and it actually displays odf like it should05:44
spirooCould they not do ONE standard any time? :P05:44
buzwhich uhm isnt quite the case with koffice05:44
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llutzspiroo: use ODF and be happy05:44
buzor latex :P05:44
hydrogenbuz: err, openoffice doesn't follow the ODF standard in a lot of cases05:45
spirooI use OpenOffice, but just boring. I hate to say it, but I like Windows office better.05:45
Ash-FoxAt work we have office 2003, but we save in odf compatible formats by default.05:45
buzhydrogen: i know05:45
hydrogenbuz: but because it was the real creator of odf, it05:45
Ash-FoxGot to love Microsoft Office05:45
hydrogen /is/ the standard05:45
Ash-FoxGot to love Microsoft Office addins*05:45
hydrogenwhich is really stupid05:45
hydrogenso saying "it renders odf documents properly" is incorrect05:45
hydrogenplus OOo is almost as bloated as firefox05:46
hydrogenkoffice please!05:46
Jucato_thought that was a fact by now? :P05:46
spirooI do not have any against any of the apps. Its just annoying because in school we only have Windows :(05:46
buzkoffice 1.6 is hopeless05:46
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Jucato_hm.. it isn't like me to add fuel to the fire...05:46
buzqt3 cant kern fonts for s***05:46
spirooThough I have Linux on my computer in school also :P05:46
Jucato_buz: aren't you glad they're working on KOffice 2? :)05:46
Ash-Foxbuz, for word proccesing, I agree.05:46
hydrogenJucato_: well, I havn't used OOo in a while so maybe its reached it :)05:46
buzi am05:46
Ash-Foxbuz, for krita, karbon - actually quite like those.05:47
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buzthankfully my current boss doesnt care one bit what i use to do my job05:47
Jucato_karbon? O.o05:47
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buzkarbon? vector graphics who cant display simple svg  properly?05:47
daSkreech!info karbon05:47
ubotukarbon: a vector graphics application for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 972 kB, installed size 3316 kB05:47
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spirooKrita sucks. I want Photoshop in Linux :) Hope Adobe will take their small sense they have left to code one for linux.05:47
buzkrita is good enough, just needs get more stable05:48
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spirooThe UI sucks.05:48
buzits better than gimp :P05:48
daSkreechspiroo: Just install Photoshop then05:48
spirooCS 3 does not work, and wine does not work.05:48
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daSkreechspiroo: CS2 works05:49
llutzspiroo: better use win for all your win-apps05:49
buzbetter dont, win makes me angry05:50
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spirooI have Photoshop in Windows. I just mean that I want to throw Windows completely in the trash. But I need Photoshop, some kind of Deamon-tools.05:50
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buzvirtualbox ;)05:50
Daisuke_Laptopvbox is a great solution05:50
spirooWhat is Vbox?05:50
buzopensource vmware thingy05:51
Daisuke_Laptopthere's acetoneiso for the virtual cd mounting and such05:51
Daisuke_Laptopbuz: that's selling it short.05:51
Jucato_!info virtualbox | spiroo05:51
ubotuspiroo: Package virtualbox does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:51
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ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox05:51
buz(well except for the fact that kernel crashes upon resume from suspend with vbox)05:51
Jucato_it's packaged in gutsy :P05:51
buzhows saying its a vmware thingy selling it short?05:51
Daisuke_Laptopbecause vbox has features vmware can only dream of :)05:52
Daisuke_Laptopsee: seamless mode.05:52
buzok, so vmware doesnt have seamless windows for all i know, but then again, seamless doesnt really work anyway05:52
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buzat least not on any resolution i'd care to use05:52
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Daisuke_Laptopdoesn't work?05:52
buztry running it on a 1600x1200 display05:52
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Daisuke_Laptop1440x900, works great.05:53
Jucato_but the open source edition of vbox doesn't have USB support afaik05:53
buzonly worked <=1280x800 for me05:53
spiroohehe vbox. COuld it run an OS which currently already is intalled on pc?05:54
buzspiroo: not windows ;)05:54
Vermuxwhat does alt+ctrl+F8 do in console?05:54
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daSkreechVermux: Jump to the 8th console05:55
daSkreechspiroo: Just install CS205:55
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BrocawaySono tornato...05:55
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VermuxdaSkreech: it says something about checking battery state... doesnt give prompt05:56
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VermuxdaSkreech: "starting kde display manager" "running local boot scripts"05:57
Vermuxis that a special console?05:57
daSkreechVermux: Yeah the boot messages get dumped there by default I think05:57
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Daisuke_LaptopBrocaway: you did this the other day.  go to #ubuntu-it05:59
VermuxdaSkreech: what does it mean though? I type ls and nothing happans05:59
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daSkreechVermux: can You login on F1-6 ?06:00
BrocawayDaisuke_Laptop: it's only an automated emssage...06:00
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VermuxdaSkreech: yes06:00
VermuxdaSkreech: but what is that terminal f8?06:00
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daSkreechIt's a terminal06:00
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daSkreechJust that terminals above the F7 normally get treated as system stuff since the user is given full control of terminal 1-606:01
daSkreechIf you spawn a new Xserver it takes F8 for example06:01
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Daisuke_Laptophttp://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5574/screenshotsd1.png <- vbox + seamless mode @ 1440x90006:03
VermuxdaSkreech: but it is not responding to commands06:03
Daisuke_LaptopVermux: perhaps you should read this again: <daSkreech> Just that terminals above the F7 normally get treated as system stuff since the user is given full control of terminal 1-606:03
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VermuxDaisuke_Laptop: what do u mean, getting treated as system stuff?06:04
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Daisuke_Laptopthe system has control, not the user.06:05
buzDaisuke_Laptop: what graphics card06:05
VermuxDaisuke_Laptop: the user can only see what the system did, but not input anything?06:05
alberdihow do i put the cpu monitor on my try?06:05
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Daisuke_Laptopbuz: intel integrated06:06
buzdoesnt work above 1280x800 on mine06:06
buzmost certainly does not with 1920x120006:06
Daisuke_LaptopVermux: no...  it's treated, as was said, as a second terminal for an xserver...06:06
buz(to be fair, i dont think i tried 1440x900)06:07
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:07
Daisuke_Laptopi only did because that's the display's native resolution :)06:07
buz xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1400x90006:07
buzxrandr: cannot find mode 1400x90006:07
buzdoesnt seem to be even available on mine06:07
buzand neither is 1440 ;)06:07
buztried both, just in case ;)06:08
Daisuke_Laptopi just hate having to drop to 1024x768 to get output on the tv...06:08
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buzoh i never actually tried that ;)06:08
Daisuke_Laptopthe tv's 1366x768, i believe06:08
Daisuke_Laptopyou would *think* it would at least accept 1280x76806:08
VermuxDaisuke_Laptop: have no idea what xserver is or what it does06:08
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Daisuke_LaptopVermux: look at the screen06:11
Daisuke_Laptopsee all the pretty colors and pictures and shapes and windows and...06:11
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Daisuke_Laptopthat's an xserver.06:11
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Vermuxso a second terminal for x server can be used by the current xserver or an additional xserver that has to be installed?06:13
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daSkreechVermux: Spawn a new Xserver06:14
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daSkreech like opening a second browser window06:14
daSkreechJust a few milion lines more code :)06:14
Vermuxis it a special code for something, the word Spawn?06:15
daSkreechVermux: No you justrun a new server06:16
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VermuxdaSkreech: and why would I want to do that?06:17
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daSkreechVermux: Dunno. A few reasons. but if you want to that's what you would do06:18
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Vermuxwhat reason do I have to spawn another xserver?06:19
daSkreechVermux: Running multiple monitors with different tasks on each06:20
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blue112Hello everyone ^__^06:22
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VermuxdaSkreech: good idea06:22
blue112I have a problem with my second pc, using ssh : in local network, with 192.168.0.x, it's take about 10-20 secs to connect and to ask me for password...06:23
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daSkreechblue112: dunno it's strange sometimes I swear that the other computer is in the bath or on the toilet06:26
daSkreechhappens everytime. someone comes knocking on the door06:26
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pestilencei got a new laptop, and i find that much moreso with this laptop than my old one, when a program is doing heavy I/O to the disk, it becomes very difficult to use the computer.  everything is very slow06:29
pestilenceany ideas on how to remedy this?06:29
andycrpestilence: I just came in here to ask about that06:29
andycrDoes it on both my desktop and laptop06:30
pestilenceandycr: :-/06:30
pestilenceat first i suspected it was a DMA issue, but according to hdparm DMA is on.06:30
blue112I had the same problem on my desktop, and I solve it by replacing HD >_>06:31
pestilencethe thing is, this laptop should have much better hardware than my old one.  pretty much faster everything06:31
pestilenceand i'm pretty sure SATA is supposed to be faster than the old PATA drive my other laptop has.06:33
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andycrpestilence: My laptop is SATA, desktop is PATA and they have basically the identical problem06:36
andycrIt's especially bad when copying files or playing games; the whole system drags along06:37
andycrI think it06:37
andycr*I think it's probably a kernel bug06:37
andycrSHould be fixed in gutsy I think06:37
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andycrI know it didn't happen in Edgy06:37
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pestilenceandycr: oh.  well, i'm running gutsy.  so don't hold your breath.06:39
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andycrpestilence: Crap. Better get my edgy CD.06:42
andycrOr compile an older kernel.06:42
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apothushello all,06:46
apothusi have got a problem, which is no real suprise, i have just created a nice fresh ubuntu install yet firefox refuses to access the intenet, i can ping the computer from my laptop yet it wont even attempt to load pages06:47
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apothusdoes any one have any idea what may cause this problem?06:49
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hjmillshow do I turn on desktop-effects in kubuntu?06:52
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poison--is there any flv player for kubuntu?06:54
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apothusim not sure, vlc normally works alright hough06:54
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apothusso has no one had this issue before ? "i have just created a nice fresh ubuntu install yet firefox refuses to access the intenet, i can ping the computer from my laptop yet it wont even attempt to load pages"06:55
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|Cugel|maybe /etc/resolv.conf is not so good?06:58
hjmillsapothus: have you got an ip?06:58
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apothusyes  and i can ping from this pc07:01
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apothusresolv.conf is an empty file, is this correct :S?07:03
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jpatrickapothus: should have your hostname...07:03
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BrocawaySono tornato...07:03
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:06
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apothusi just took the information from the resolv.conf on this machine and typed it in but it is saying i dont have the permision, is there a way to bypass this protection?07:07
apothusi dont have permission when i try to save it that is07:07
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ardchoille!sudo | apothus use sudo rather than trying to bypass security07:09
ubotuapothus use sudo rather than trying to bypass security: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:09
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apothusi have been opening it up in the text editor, how do i edit the file in the terminal window?07:11
geniisudo nano /path/filename07:12
sliv3rhey there.... i'm a total newbie... i'd like to install a kubuntu version on my pc (amd athlon 400+), i've downloaded it an all. i read i should defrag my disk, then partition it (three partitions, linux, win and shared). so, i guess partitioning doesnt affect my files, does it? and besides this, how should i proceed?!07:12
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geniiapothus: sudo nano /path/filename      edit the file. crtl-x to exit, saying Y when asked to save07:12
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ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code07:14
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ubotuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida07:14
xevioussliv3r: it'll resize your windows partition, keeping your files intact07:15
xevioussliv3r: just boot off the install cd07:15
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xevioussliv3r: it'll guide you through it07:15
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sliv3rok.... but i read the kubuntu cd might have problems with creating partitions in the right way is this true?!07:16
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xevioussliv3r: where'd you read that?07:17
sliv3ri guess on a stupid website, from how you're asking?07:18
xeviousno, i wanted to read it and see if it was a valid concern07:18
xeviousi dont use windows at all, so i've only done fresh installs07:18
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sliv3rright. if you want the url ill look for it...07:18
apothusThank you very much! this channel makes it so much easier for us new people to get started!!07:19
xeviousif you don't mind...07:19
LeeJunFanjust me or is ICQ down?07:19
X314Z159I read (after trying) that ubuntu has problems with the certain type of laptop i have, that the processor overheats..07:19
sliv3ri guess ill do that07:19
superflymugexcuse me can anyone help me with getting ubuntu to work on the internet I have a belkin wireless usb card07:19
sliv3rits just.... the typical problem. some programs just don't work.07:19
X314Z159kinda sucks.. since i liked my laptop07:19
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xevioussuperflymug: google for the exact model name of your wireless card and linux. aka belkin [model]  linux07:21
xevioussuperflymug: see if there's info on how well it's supported07:21
sliv3rwell, it says "the Ubuntu installer is not 100% effective in resizing NTFS partitions"... on http://www.matthewjmiller.net/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/07:21
ardchoilleLeeJunFan: I can't sing into ICQ either :(07:21
superflymugit didn't help07:22
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coreymon77sliv3r: its not07:22
tattersdoes kubuntu have a tray icon for compiz?07:22
ardchoilletatters: join #ubuntu-effects07:22
sliv3rcoreymoon77: just quoting07:22
xevioussliv3r: XP or Vista?07:22
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coreymon77sliv3r: linux is not made for ntfs, ntfs is a wierd proprietary filesystem07:23
sliv3rxp (at least i didnt make THAT error)07:23
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coreymon77sliv3r: *buntu is very good at resizing, its very unlikely to have problems07:23
sliv3rcoreymoon77: what dyou suggest then?07:23
coreymon77sliv3r: but but i still suggest to back any improtant data up before you try07:24
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sliv3rpartitioning it in two partitions or doing the thing with the ntfs?07:24
Vermuxwhat calculator utility does kubuntu have?07:24
xeviousVermux: SuperCrunch and kcalc07:25
xeviousVermux: by default, at least07:25
X314Z159and speedcrunch07:25
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xeviousi said supercrunch07:25
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xeviousthat was an old cartoon network segment07:25
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xeviousi meant speedcrunch07:26
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X314Z159It felt wrong to question you, so I just said the proper one and let you realize it by yourself :)07:26
Vermuxxevious: where can I find kcalc?07:26
X314Z159use adept installer07:27
tattersSo fresh install of kubuntu gutsy appears to have desktop effects turned off, I thought desktop effects were going to be turned on by default or is that just the basic ubuntu version07:27
xeviousVermux: K Menu -> Run -> type in kcalc07:28
X314Z159xevious: you need to install it. its not installed by standard in newer versions (dont know about older once)07:28
radiusalt+f2 and type kcalc is faster ;p07:28
Vermuxxevious: it says it cannot run the command07:28
xeviousVermux: you using gutsy?07:29
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xeviousoh. heh. by golly you're right07:29
radiusall that mouse clicking ...07:29
germananymail program?07:29
X314Z159Vermux: add remove programs then search for kcalc. and install07:29
xeviouswell i should check things out first, huh07:29
germandoes anyone know a mail prgram that is able to open gmail, hotmail, and imap=?07:29
X314Z159xevious: well, you are atleast partialy right :P07:30
germani have been trying to send a mail with kmail but that shit sucks07:30
xeviousX314Z159: i'm hung over, give me a break :)07:30
VermuxIm using 3.5.707:30
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germanit keeps telling me i have not a sender adress07:30
X314Z159xevious: ah, that you cant blame on me ;)07:30
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X314Z159german: gmail notify for gmail. thats all i know.07:30
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germangmail notify, what is that?07:31
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X314Z159a program07:32
germanthat downloads gmail,07:32
germanwell outlook in windows did work fine,07:32
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germani guess there has to be a similiar thing in linux07:32
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X314Z159well. no, It checks if you have new emails on your gmail account. and if you press it it launches a browerser with gmail07:33
X314Z159german: ah. if thats what your looking for07:33
X314Z159german: try thunderbird mail07:33
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ardchoillegerman: kmail works with gmail quite well.07:33
CPrgmSwR2Can you download the beta versions to kde4 with kubuntu?07:33
ardchoilleCPrgmSwR2: See the topic07:34
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germanhow do i uninstall kmail from kubuntu?07:34
germanadept manager?07:34
xeviousgreets, Yammeh. Didn't notice you slip in...07:34
X314Z159german:  you just uncheck it in the list. and then do the same procedure that you do when installing and it will remove it07:35
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germandoes purge means the sam as uninstall?07:35
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ardchoillegerman: No, purge means "uninstall and remove configuration files too"07:35
germanis that bad?07:35
ardchoilleNot if you don't plan on re-installing it07:35
germani just purged kmail, i did not have the uninstall option07:36
germani dont want to see that shit ever again07:36
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ardchoillegerman: Why?07:36
germanafter configuratiing it under an hour07:36
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/07:36
germanit tells me i cant send an email without givind the letter a sender adress, wich i had done,07:37
ardchoillegerman: Should have asked me, configuring kmail takes just a few minutes07:37
germanand it kept like that for ages,07:37
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germando you know the adresses for pop mail to hotmail?07:37
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TheDudegerman: since when did hotmail have pop access?07:38
germani dont know if they do07:38
TheDudegerman: they do not...07:38
germanbut outlook is able to download the mail07:38
germansomething they have to got07:38
TheDudegerman: its different I believe07:38
germanwell is there anyprogram able to download the mail besides outlook?07:38
TheDudegerman: not pop access07:38
germanwell is there anyprogram able to download hotmail, even if hotmail does not have pop acces?07:39
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TheDudenot sure about that german...www.google.com07:39
fdovinggerman: gotmail can download it for you.07:40
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TheDudeget a gmail account bro07:40
cosmo_I'm trying to get the RC installed but it stalled, now it does nothing when I start back up the process any suggestions?07:40
germanthunderbird does not?07:40
radiususe www.google.com/linux for nix queries07:40
TheDudebetter spam filtering anyway07:40
radiusit will narrow down the searches07:40
germani want to install a program and a program only that handles hotmail, gmail and imap acces mail acount07:40
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nacholibrehey german07:41
fdovinggerman: gotmail behaves like fetchmail, but for hotmail.07:41
apothusim having a similar problem to before (i think) im trying to apt-get cvs and i get the message that cvs is not avaliable. what could be continuing to cause netwrok and internet errors such as these?07:41
nacholibreotherway is:07:41
nacholibreinstall thunderbird07:41
germani've got no idea what fetchmail is....07:41
nacholibrewith webmail plugin07:41
germanthunderbird it is nacholibre07:41
germanand how do i do that?07:42
nacholibrethunderbird i think07:42
germani am a noob, just so you know07:42
nacholibreWhich version?07:42
germantype thunderbird on adept manager?07:42
germanthe latest, any?07:42
ardchoille!info thunderbird07:42
ubotuPackage thunderbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:42
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X314Z159german: noob = someone who has been doing something allot, but just doesnt care to learn or act like a humanbeeing. what you are refering to is a newbe07:43
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X314Z159... I need to play less games online..07:43
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ubotuAcronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.07:43
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nacholibreOkay... .07:43
nacholibre--> german: Go on www.ubuntuusers.de07:44
nacholibreAnd read the wiki's!07:44
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germani guess i am gonna shot myself07:44
germanthat sems to be easier that reading my mail07:44
nacholibreThis isn't entertainment, but you HAVE to read and learn. No one else can do that for you!07:45
X314Z159german: how about, open a browerser and read the mail there?07:45
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germani va got three mail acounts07:45
ardchoillegerman: Firefox has a tabbed ui now :)07:45
X314Z159german: I have 6.07:45
germanwell do you open all of them in different windows?07:46
ardchoillein different tabs, yes07:46
andycrHow do I get gimp print drivers working in kubuntu? My printer is supported out of the box in ubuntu but not kubuntu07:46
germani guess that if you want to do things easier for you you should not use linux?07:46
fdovinggerman: i use linux for exactly that reason, to make things easier.07:47
ardchoillesame here07:47
germanbut you cant have a program tha topens all your mail?07:47
ardchoilleLinux has been making my life easier since 200107:47
X314Z159german:  well, if you had been using linux all your life and switched to the W stuff, it would be the other way around.07:47
X314Z159ardchoille: linux is my life.. (not really, but I want to be worse :P)07:48
andycrI switched because I dislike VC++ and GDB didn't work so well under windows07:48
devianceAnyone here use Pidgin? How the HELL do I change my screen name?07:48
germanwell i gues having outllok opening all my mail in one program would seem easier that opneing sex brosers,, oh excuse me sex tabs,...07:48
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clyrradAnyone know of a quick easy way to make a DVD from a bunch of Videos? (AVI and MPG) etc?07:48
X314Z159german:  six* and there probably is some program with features so you can open all your mails in it. you just have to find it.07:48
ardchoillegerman: I use kamil to open all four of my email accounts at once so I can read mail from all my accounts at the same time07:49
jay2ania_deviance: click "Accounts", select account, click "set friendly name"07:49
devianceAh :P07:49
apothusi have used firefox for years on windows, great program, but at the moment im struggeling to do the basics on ubuntu, anyone know why im getting a "cvs not avaliable" when i try to apt-get it?07:49
byte[] I'm trying to access my NTFS partitions using the Stroage Media menu in kubuntu 7.10 rc1 but it's failing, I'm guessing because it needs root access but isn't asking for it. How can I get it to work?07:49
geniiardchoille: Linux has been making my life easier for a while too :)07:49
devianceThanks :D07:49
ardchoillehi genii07:50
X314Z159the only problem with Firefox is that you cant keep it open for longer periods. its such a drain07:50
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germanwhy is that?07:50
apothusyeah, damn memory leaks07:50
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germani mean with firefox and the time?07:50
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jay2ania_Does anyone know if it's possible to get K3B to read files from a network share? (fish:// preferably)07:50
andersinjay2ania: not at the moment, on the list of things to do, but not trivial07:51
jay2ania_ic, thanks andersin07:51
germanI need alcohol07:51
X314Z159german: well.. firefox ends up using more and more memory the longer you have it open. its a flaw. but just restarting firefox usually "restarts" the memory, so that it will begin with using a little memory, and then increase again07:52
apothusi have had to much german, now im trying to get this working for tomorrow, not a good idea :S07:52
andersinjay2ania: you probably need to buffer the files anyways, so it is not that much of a gain07:52
X314Z159apothus: dont do what you can do today tomorrow, you know who said that?07:52
jay2ania_well, k3b creates a buffer when "create image" is checked. It would just beat manually copying files one by one, and keeping track of file sizes, etc.07:53
apothusno idea at all, at a rough guess i would say churchill :P he always had cool quotes07:53
germani'll reinstall kmail, did i fucked it up when i purged the program five minuts ago?07:53
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ardchoilleProcrastinators: Tomorrow's leaders07:53
X314Z159apothus: the guy who invented electricity ;)07:53
ardchoillegerman: No, you can reinstall it with no problems.07:53
apothusgood old tesla, you have to love him07:54
germantesla did not discover elctribity07:54
germanlovely guy though07:54
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andersintesla had this crazy idea about transmitting electricity through the ionosphere07:54
X314Z159german: purging just deletes allot of extra files that otherwise are saved for faster reinstall or for keeping old configurations07:54
andersinlovely might not quite capture it =)07:54
germanwich is possible,07:54
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Ash-FoxTesla made a ray gun.07:55
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apothusindeed he is, yeah untill business realise it would be free energy for the world07:55
genii!info tesla07:55
ubotuPackage tesla does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:55
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radiusX314Z159, do you know why tomas edison invented the light bulb?07:55
apothuswe have a tesla coil at work, so much fun :D07:55
radiusX314Z159, fear of the dark (:07:56
germanyou do?07:56
germanhow mcuh does it comes up to?07:56
X314Z159radius: :P07:56
radiusit's a true fact07:56
geniiradius: Edison didn't invent it. he bought the idea off another fellow07:56
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andersinapothus: brilliant alright, maybe  a bit too much at times07:56
Ash-FoxEdison owned the patent.07:56
apothusyeah! i work in a science center in aus, we have heaps of cool shit there, 2m vandegraf generator and the largest planetarium in the souther hemisphere07:56
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germanyou do not!!07:57
germanwhat aout the plantarium in chile?07:57
apothushow large is it?07:57
byte[] ok so how can I switch the default file manager then? I don't think I want to use dolphin anymore07:57
X314Z159genii: Ash-Fox  that fact has been discussed allot. but generally, since edison had the patent, he is considerd the inventor of it.07:57
germanbigger tha australia ;)07:57
geniiAsh-Fox: No, he didn't. Henry woodward had the patent. Edison bought it from him07:57
germanno well thay do not hav a big plantarium but the bigges on earth telescope07:58
X314Z159genii: still, edison bought it, then he owned it.07:58
radiusregardless whether he invented or bought the idea - he still had a fear of the dark woodward was too poor anyway07:58
geniiradius: Heh, true07:58
germanbut he was not scared of light???07:58
X314Z159radius:  and without him, we would not have the awsome whicked lazer thingies we have today. :P and allot of other stuff.. but lazers are inportant :P07:59
apothusLOL, i can imagine that, perth is not big on optical telescopes, but its looking better and better that we may get he SKA07:59
andersinbyte[] : change the file association for inode/directory to konqueror07:59
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apothusgerman:  check this out http://www.sciencewa.net.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=444&Itemid=55608:00
andersinbyte[] : and also the one for inode/system_directory08:00
germanwell i am reinstalling kmail anyone who know how to configurate it ?08:00
byte[] thanks08:00
germanwhat is this schince center called?08:01
andersinbyte[] : then of course you need to adjust what you launch from the buttons (not quite sure how it is done in the default setup)08:01
germani was thinking about going to study at melbourne08:01
germanbut i changed my mind08:01
apothusok, the center is called scitech (original name i know) the planetarium is called Horizon (another original name)08:01
byte[] oh..08:01
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X314Z159apothus: hehe, my joystick is saitech almost the same thing.. though i could never get the damn thing to work08:03
apothusim part way through training for the planetarium at the moment, fantastic computer system, over $2 million08:03
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Daisuke_Laptopi can get output to the tv via vga-out08:03
Daisuke_Laptopthen i have to change the resolution to 1024x768 to get a picture08:03
Daisuke_Laptopooh, that was easy, i wish i'd have thought of that before08:04
Hamrawherever i go on the net, i find ubuntu programs, will these work on kubuntu?08:04
Daisuke_LaptopHamra: yes, yes they will.08:04
Daisuke_Laptopbecause kubuntu = ubuntu with kde08:04
radiusminus gnome?08:05
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apothusso no one has any idea on what may cause my continuing network errors, firefox now working but "apt-get install cvs"  returing "package cvs unavaliable"08:07
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germani can bet a dollar that i am in the coldest place of ally uo in here08:07
german-1 degree, celcius08:08
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Hamra lucky you, its freakin hot here, 29 c, i prefer the -108:10
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germanlets change08:11
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Hamrawherever i go i find ubuntu programs, do these work on kubuntu, im still a beginner08:15
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Daisuke_LaptopHamra: yes already.  i already told you yes08:17
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Daisuke_Laptopubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xfce.  the only difference is desktop environment08:18
Daisuke_Laptop(and some of the preinstalled applications)08:18
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Hamrasorry, didnt see it08:19
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ScuniziIn Open Office, when inserting and image, the dialogue box in kde allows for choosing a specific partition but I can't figure out how to choose a folder within that partition.  How do I do that? (Kubuntu Feisty)08:20
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jussi01 wow...busy tonight i see,...08:30
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deviance!info kirocker08:32
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ubotuPackage kirocker does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:32
devianceShame really, its a brilliant kicker addon08:32
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jussi01!info kirocker gutsy08:34
ubotuPackage kirocker does not exist in gutsy08:34
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sanotehuTwice now, I've closed the lid of my laptop, my session has been locked, and I've tried to unlock it only to find that the field where I'm supposed to enter my password isn't accepting any input. This isn't happening consistently and I can't figure out anything I'm doing that might be causing it.08:37
sanotehuThis is on Gutsy by the way08:38
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geniisanotehu: Have you asked in #ubuntu+1 or #kubuntu-devel ?08:41
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sanotehugenii, I'm waiting for a response in #ubuntu+108:41
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geniiAh, OK. I would suspect some issue with ACPI system, myself. Much depends on hardware setup as well as other things like if it's going into hibernate or such how large the swap partition is, etc etc08:43
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trevorAnybody know how to compizfusion working on an ATI card, using proprietary drivers?08:43
geniiwork, Away From Keyboard a few minutes08:44
buzsanotehu: probably an ACPI issue, i have never seen this so far08:44
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trevorThat means I'm gonig to have to flash my bios...08:46
trevorIsn't that dangerous?08:46
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m477how run game in a window ?08:49
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trevorWhat game?08:53
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trevorAnyone know about compizfusion on an ati card?08:59
mattrperryNeed direction on where to find clear doc for kmail customization and how to make use of 'windows' key in kubuntu08:59
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deviancemattperry, the windows key is like any other kety09:01
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devianceOr called special by Compix fusion and other programs09:01
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mattrperrydeviance: how can I bond it to the kstart button to have a similar effect?09:02
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devianceI dont think you can, keys like Ctrl and Windows need to be bonded with other keys aswell. Ask stdin, he knows evertthing09:04
stdinyeah, win key is a modifier, can't be used on its own09:04
mattrperrythanks guys...how about how to set a default font style color size for the body only of new email messages only in kmail? and ideas?09:05
devianceModifier, thats the word I was looking for.09:05
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awagis there anyone here who can answer questions about upgrading to 7.10 ?09:07
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trevorI did it, but I'm having troubles with adept...09:07
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trevorIt's really easy...09:08
awagyeah, It seems to be going great until it starts installing new packages, and then it starts complaining about debconf and x11-common and python something not being able to be upgraded09:08
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trevorSame here...09:08
awagand i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong09:08
trevorI'm on the gutsy channel, trying to get help...09:08
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stdinyou may want to ask in #kubuntu-devel if you're using adept to upgrade09:09
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deviancestdin: Whats the best way to upgrade?09:10
stdinwith adept09:10
mattrperrystdin: do you know how to setup kmail to have a 'custom' format for all new messages? meaning a specific font, color, size etc?09:11
stdinmattrperry: no, I don't use kmail09:11
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devianceI'm not a Kmail fan, I prefer thunderbird09:11
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mattrperrythat's what I use too...but my mom is trying out linux for the first time and likes kmail and I can't find a way to get it to change the font/style/color/size only for new created messages without changing the font settings for the whole app and all it's folders and messages etc09:13
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mattrperryknow anywhere I could look?09:13
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stdinmattrperry: #kde is always a good place to ask09:14
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mattrperryright on...thanks09:14
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devianceAnyone know any good download managers09:15
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Hamralets say i asked adept to upgrade 20 programs, and i already downloaded 5, can i ask it to ignore the other 15 and just install these 5?09:16
ScuniziI'm trying to instert a .jpg image and OO complains "Graphics filter not found".  Gif's work fine.. Where/How do I get and activate the appropriate filters to insert jpg files?09:16
devianceHamra: Not with adept09:16
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stdinHamra: just open adept manager and select to upgrade the ones you want manually09:17
Hamrayes, ok09:18
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xeviousso i posed this question in #kopete already, without any response, but i'm chatting with someone on AIM who has their font set to white, and my kopete chat window background is white. in order to see what they type i have to highlight every line they type. is there a way to override their font settings?09:27
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hmartoxBuenas noches.09:28
hmartoxTengo instalado Kubuntu 7.10. Que necesito para sincronizar por bluetooth mi mvil con Kontact?09:28
flakecan i dual-boot windows xp 32-bit and ubuntu 64-bit?09:28
xeviousflake: sure can09:29
flakeif win xp is already there09:29
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deviancestdin: Whats the ! comman d to tell hmartox hes in the wrong place?09:29
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xeviousflake: yes. but ntfs support is not flawless in linux, so backup any important data first. it _should_ resize your ntfs partition ok, though09:29
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:30
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hmartoxhow can i sync kontact with my mobile by bluetooth09:30
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CreationistWhat is the command for the update manager that starts automatically when I login?  I turned it off on accident.09:32
dwidmannadept_notifier probably09:32
dwidmannI forget09:32
CreationistYeah, that sounds right, dwidmann09:33
deviance!info adept-update09:33
ubotuPackage adept-update does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:33
devianceHmm, I thought it was a dash :P09:33
dwidmannNo, it's definitely an underscore09:33
stdinthe package has a dash (and it's updater), but the command has an underscore09:33
devianceOh ok09:33
stdinthe notifier is "adept_notifier"09:34
devianceI have it off my default09:34
devianceI use Compiz09:34
CreationistAh yeah... I do to.  Now I remember why I turned it off... Compiz doesn't like it in the system tray ;)09:34
devianceDoes opera exist on Linux or do I need to use Wine for it?09:35
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ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser09:35
dwidmannit exists just fine09:35
devianceWhats its name it adept09:36
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devianceI couldnt find it09:36
dwidmannYou won't find it09:36
Creationistdeviance: I'm not sure why you'd be willing to run a web browser in Wine, though....09:36
dwidmannGo to www.opera.com and download it from there09:36
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stdinit's in the canonical commercial repo09:36
Hamradeviance, there is opera for linux09:36
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devianceCreationist: I'm a web developer and need to test things on Internet Explorer09:36
earl_hey fellas. I'm running gutsy beta 1. how do i upgrade to RC1?09:36
earl_sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?09:36
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dwidmannstdin: I have my doubts of whether or not that would even be up-to-date09:36
Creationistdeviance: Ah... I assumed so, I guess.09:37
stdinearl_: no, open adept and update as normal09:37
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Hamraopera is my default browser09:37
stdindwidmann: 9.23-20070809.6gutsy109:37
earl_oh. sounds simple enough.09:37
xeviousso is adept_notifier going to be made compiz friendly?09:37
deviancestdin: How do I add canonical commercial repo?09:37
Creationistearl_: And run that again on the 18th and you'll get the final release as well ;)09:37
devianceI hope so xevious09:37
earl_oh, so i won't have to dist-upgrade then either?09:37
Creationistxevious: I hope so too ;)09:37
stdinxevious: you mean is compiz going to be made adept friendly09:37
stdindeviance: feisty or gutsy ?09:38
Creationiststdin: Ah, yeah... that's probably more accurate.09:38
Creationistearl_: Nope.09:38
earl_stdin: I think he means how the notifier is all stupid and doesn't stay in the systray if you have compiz09:38
earl_cool. next question!09:38
dwidmannstdin: might just be then, I'm impressed. I'm running the "public alfa" right now though ... has a nifty new feature worth running it for.09:38
stdindeviance: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ feisty-commercial main09:38
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Creationistearl_: Once you're running Gutsy, you have the Gutsy repositories enabled... therefore you'll receive the same updates as anyone else.09:38
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devianceIs there a src or a key needed?09:38
redheathi everyone09:38
xeviousstdin: i seem to remember researching it after getting that annoying floating adept_notifier window, and the compiz people reporting it was something with how adept_notifier dealt with not showing the icon when there aren't updates09:39
earl_i've had it up to here with the stupid bouncing icon that shows up when i load a new program. because it bounces for like 30 seconds after the program's open, and leaves an empty entry in my panel every time.09:39
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lee_ok i am running in 64 ...eh how do i update lol?09:39
earl_how do i make it go away,09:39
redheatjust one quick question, how can I access desktop configuration settings, but not from the right menu on the desktop09:39
earl_or at least not behave like a moron?09:39
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Creationistxevious: Well, I've had the same issue with KTorrent, Konversation and a few others... so I assume it actually is a Compiz issue.09:39
lee_hi creationist09:39
redheathi creationist09:40
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Creationistlee_, redheat: Hmm... are you cloning yourself?09:40
lee_creationist I have that 64 bit up and running...but its kubuntu lol09:40
redheatI'm what?09:40
xeviousredheat: k menu -> system settings -> desktop09:40
Creationistlee_: Good man :)09:40
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Creationistredheat: Nevermind09:40
lee_lol no its me from 32 bit i got converted lol09:41
earl_anyone know what i'm talking about?09:41
lee_eh when i had ubuntu09:41
earl_like if i open firefox or something, the firefox icon will bounce for like 30 seconds after i've already been using it09:41
Creationistearl_: Yes, I do... but as far as I'm aware, that would just be a bug with the program not reporting that it's fully up and running, so KDE thinks it's still loading.  I'm probably way off, but that would make sense to me ;)09:41
lee_but creationist, i have a problem...i don't know how to up date lol09:41
redheatXevious, I can't see any Destop under system settings09:41
Creationistlee_: Run "adept_updater"09:42
dwidmannearl, pull up kcontrol and go to appearance - launch feedback09:42
xeviousredheat: which version of kubuntu?09:42
lee_am i even in the right channel for gutsy? and kubuntu lol09:42
Creationistlee_: But you should have Adept Notifier running already (it loads on login by default)09:42
devianceRedhat and Novell are getting sued for use of Workspaces, hope *ubuntu doesnt.09:42
redheatthe latest version, and I have compiz-fusion installed and working as we speak09:42
lee_eh where .. i was off line when it updated09:42
Creationistdeviance: lol by whom?09:42
lee_eh that is when i installed09:42
devianceNot a clue :P09:43
xeviousredheat: 7.04 or the 7.10 release candidate?09:43
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redheat7.10 candidate09:43
Creationistdeviance: Probably Microsoft.... they would sue God for creating the Earth if they could :P09:43
poison--anyone using Cedega?09:43
xeviousredheat: in feisty (7.04) it's in system settings, under the look and feel section. it says "desktop"09:43
Creationistdeviance: "He's copying us!"09:43
devianceNah, its not09:43
lee_eh where do i run that in? command or the dsame o samo09:43
devianceThey have an Agreement with Novell09:43
earl_dwidmann: i don't have kcontorl...09:43
Macrishi, can someone help me? I started to upgrade feisty to gutsy and everything was going fine until i got an error while installing package hpaa ftp server. After that the upgrade halted and is stuck at "configuring libxfixes-dev".09:44
dwidmannearl_: yes you do.09:44
redheatok xevious, that's in 7.04, now I"m using 7.10..anyway to access it from within the system settings09:44
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earl_oh, nevermind, for some reason it didn't work when i used katapult09:44
lee_ah its running now lol09:44
xeviousredheat: i couldn't tell you. i run 7.04. not a big fan of beta OSes09:44
CreationistMacris: Sadly, that's why a fresh install is what I always recommend.  Did you try upgrading through the command line or GUI?09:44
nathan_I think I found a bug in kubuntu09:44
dwidmannearl. alt + f2, run it that way (it can be added to the kmenu pretty easily though)09:44
devianceCreationist: I feel like a right idiot. I am happy because I managed to install Internet Explorer09:44
redheatlet me tell you what happened, there are certain wallpapers, right after you install them they prohibit opening the right-click menu on their interfaces09:44
lee_heepre jepers this is fast lol09:44
earl_so if i set the timers down09:45
redheatit is as stable as 7.0409:45
earl_does that mean it'll give up on launching the program if its taking longer than that09:45
earl_or just stop showing the things09:45
Creationistnathan_: Report it on www.launchpad.net09:45
nathan_anyone want to help confirm this bug09:45
dwidmannnathan_: interesting thing I read in a blog yesterday, unless you report it it's only a complaint :P09:45
lee_dang this is faster then my 32 bit install09:45
MacrisCreationist: not yet im still waiting the upgrade tool to finish and though i could ask u guys the best way to move forward09:45
lee_of gutsy09:45
nathan_unless I confirm it, it's only a guess09:45
CreationistMacris: Are you upgrading through the command line or with Adept?09:45
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nathan_can someone on kubuntu help confirm this bug09:46
MacrisCreationist: with adept09:46
Creationistnathan_: Well, then tell us what you think may be a bug...09:46
dwidmannearl, it'll just stop showing it, it likely already failed long before the bouncy cursor stops.09:46
lee_creationist i have seen the lioght of 64 bit09:46
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earl_good point09:46
CreationistMacris: Click the "show details" button... see if there's some kind of input it's waiting for from you.09:46
nathan_when pressing tab to complete a dir, it adds \ twice and makes it not the dir anymore09:46
lee_boy this is a lot different then 32 bit09:46
earl_dwidmann: Why does that happen by the way? sometimes a program will randomly fail, and if i run it again it works09:46
Creationistnathan_: Hmm... I can't confirm that.  WOrks just fine for me, sorry.09:46
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nathan_Creationist: you have to duplicate the environment I think09:47
MacrisCreationist: theres nothing now, it got wiped after the error... do u know does it log it to file somewhere so i can dig it up now?09:47
Creationistearl_: Heh, I had that for about a week with Amarok.  Sometimes it wouldn't run no matter what I'd do.  Wait an hour and boom, there it goes, up and running ;)09:47
lee_creationist what did you mean by cloning myself?09:47
dwidmannearl_: not sure, oftentimes the problem is, especially after a crash or a failed launch, you might have more than one of that process already running, so running the command "killall firefox" before trying to start it again may help.09:47
nathan_Ceationist: make this path: ~/Desktop/Pogo\ Linux/Scripts/09:47
CreationistMacris: You can always check /var/logs09:47
earl_dwidmann: I meant besides firefox09:48
Creationistlee_: Nevermind that09:48
dwidmannearl_: 'twas just an example.09:48
earl_dwidmann: and usually when it happens, it'll work without a problem the next time i try to run it, no killing required09:48
nathan_then try this09:48
nathan_~nathan (or your name) tab09:48
dwidmannOne that has given me lots of grief in the pas ttoo09:48
nathan_then /Dtab09:48
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nathan_then /Ptab09:48
lee_eh ok...hay why did ok turn red?09:48
Creationistnathan_: Why do you have a \ after Pogo?09:48
nathan_then /Stab09:48
nathan_Creationist: because it's Pogo Linux09:49
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xeviousnathan_: works fine for me09:49
Creationistnathan_: Ah... as you can see I'm not too familiar with Linux yet ;)09:49
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lee_Talk about no mess ups with graaahics Wow...09:49
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dwidmannlee_: text usually shows up as red when your name is contained in it, courtesy of your irc client.09:49
nathan_not working right09:49
xeviousnathan_: worked fine09:50
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nathan_if I tab it for every section I get this:09:50
nathan_~nathan/Desktop/Pogo\\\ Linux/Scripts09:50
nathan_and that doesn't work09:50
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lee_wel, this parts workin right then where as the other version unbutu didnt09:50
dwidmannlee_: that or you have spellchecking turned on ....09:50
nathan_here's the expansion09:50
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xeviousnathan_: i did mkdir -p ~/Desktop/Pogo\ Linux/Scripts, then did cd ~m(tab)/De(tab)/P(tab)/S(tab)09:51
CreationistAnyone know of any alternatives to GNUCash that has a better interface (more reminiscent of Quicken)?09:51
xeviousworked just fine09:51
lee_ohhhh spell checker i see it now ok oh i see its on auto09:51
earl_alright thanks guys, i'm out09:51
nathan_xevious: don't do 'cd'09:51
lee_eh i have to chsnge the font size this is to tiny09:51
nathan_xevious: it works here with cd as well09:51
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit09:52
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xeviousnathan_: ok. this wouldn't be a kubuntu bug, by the way. it'd be a bash bug if anything09:52
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nathan_did you see it?09:52
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xeviousnathan_: yup09:52
xeviousnathan_: point that out to the bash folks09:52
nathan_k thanks I will09:52
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satafterhwil 7.10rc1 install with a 8800gts with haveing to do any thing special?09:53
lee_that worked lol09:53
xeviousnathan_: make sure to point out that you don't cd to it. that's what got me09:53
lee_ok now to call mom and tell her that her pc is fixed09:53
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lee_well nothings truely fixed with "windows"09:53
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Creationistlee_: Yes, there is...09:54
Creationistlee_: It's called Delete Windows Partition ;)09:54
CreationistSue Bill Gates for "pain and suffering"09:54
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lee_lol you got a point there creationist, ok general  question will ms works be able to be read by linux? be read in th09:55
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lee_disreguard the latter part of the sentence It eas a spell check gone bad lol09:56
CreationistAnyone know of any alternatives to GNUCash that has a better interface (more reminiscent of Quicken)?09:56
MacrisCreationist: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40445/09:56
lee_so this is the right chnnel for all gutsy porjects?09:57
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Creationistlee_: Actually, until the 18th, you should go to #ubuntu+109:58
Valuedhello.  i upgraded from feisty to gutsy beta and lost networking, both wireless and wired.  deleted all but the first four lines of /etc/network/interfaces and rebooted.  cannot enable eth0, my wired connection.09:58
lee_on my way there lol09:58
dwidmannCreationist: problem with that being that most of the people in #ubuntu+1 seem to be gnomes.09:58
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Creationistdwidmann: Well, nobody's perfect ;)09:59
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nathan_xevious: you there10:03
nathan_it's a kubuntu bug apparently10:03
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xeviousnathan_: that's... not exactly possible, but how do the bash guys reason that?10:03
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nathan_join us in #bash10:03
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Hamrais there download managers in linux? if yes, what do you recommend?10:05
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dwidmannHamra: how about kget?10:06
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s4xxonhello, i got the following line on my fstab /dev/hdc6    /media/win4    ntfs    auto,gid=1000,umask=0002,nls=iso8859-7,nls=$ so that my partition will be automounted.10:06
s4xxon<A-L-A-R-M> what i want is when another user logs on not to be mounted for him10:06
s4xxoni did add the gid=1000 which is for my user, but the partition its still being mounted automatically for other users as well, i want it just for the user i use , how would this be ?10:06
Hamrai'll try it, thnx10:07
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emilsedghHamra: Aria2 is good, but its command-line, d4x might be good10:08
dwidmanns4xxon: that's just the mount permissions, controlling who's allowed to create files and such, maybe10:08
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s4xxoncant this be changed in the fstab and be mounted only for my user and no other to have permition ?10:10
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dwidmanns4xxx: Maybe you could add the automounting for your user to some sort of login script?10:11
MacZtttlkworkHi! I need to convert two xvid files to DVD video, what's the best option? Is there any good program avaiable? Or a plug-in to do it with k3b?10:11
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emilsedghs4xxon: go to SystemSettings->Advanced Tab->Disks and Filesystems, you could change permissions there10:11
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s4xxonokie, thanks10:12
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xeviousnathan_: you still around?10:13
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:17
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nathan_xevious: yeah i'm talking in the other same room you are silly10:20
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Hamrasome site on opera requested flash, so opera redirected  me to adobe's site, but now the installation says opera is not supported!10:27
pillowpantsdoes anyone know a graphical front end for teamspeak server10:27
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stdinHamra: it will use the same plugin as firefox10:28
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Hamrabut i dont have firefox10:31
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jeroenvrpI installed ubuntu-desktop (gutsy) tested gnome, but now I want get rid of it -- how!!!? apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get autoremove >  doen't work10:32
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stdinHamra: just install "flashplugin-nonfree"10:33
Hamrai'll try that10:33
stdinjeroenvrp: see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde   that will probably then remove kubuntu-desktop, wait until it's done then "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"10:34
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jeroenvrpstdin: no I want to remove ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop is still here10:35
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stdinjeroenvrp: yes, follow those instructions10:35
jeroenvrpits for feisty10:35
redheathi again folks..just need you all for this quick help question ..10:35
jeroenvrpI tried it allready10:35
redheatthe upper part of this page10:35
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jeroenvrpok I try that10:36
jeroenvrpbut I didnt install ubuntu-desktop with aptitude10:36
redheatwhich talks about all the available repositories needed10:36
redheathow can I them al10:36
redheathow can I get all of them?10:36
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Scunizianyone have problems with adept notifier moving from a docked position by the clock to the application toolbar when beryl is running?  (Feisty Kubuntu)10:36
stdinjeroenvrp: doesn't matter, follow the instructions to remove all the gnome packages, then reinstall kubuntu-desktop10:36
stdinScunizi: it's a known problem10:37
jeroenvrpstdin: I tried it, but its for feisty and some packages were not there anymore10:37
jeroenvrpbut I try again with removing those packages10:37
Scunizistdin: ok.. i'll live with it.10:37
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Hamraflashplugin-nonfree worked well, thnx10:40
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trevornosrednaekim: Heys...10:43
trevornosrednaekim: I downgraded my bios, and that fixed my bios, but wireless is still a no go...10:43
nosrednaekimtrevor: gutsy?10:43
trevornosrednaekim: Why can't it just work?10:43
trevornosrednaekim: Yeah...10:43
trevornosrednaekim: you want to use remote?10:44
nosrednaekimtrevor: yeah... wireless is being finickey here on gutsy to10:44
nosrednaekimtrevor: sure.. I can try10:44
trevornosrednaekim: cause I'll let you do it...  I'm bout to wipe it, and dual boot vista...10:44
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ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:44
trevornosrednaekim: Let me email it to you...10:45
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nosrednaekimtrevor: are you using 64 bit?10:46
trevorSTUPID EMAIL!10:46
trevorI can't get email working...10:46
nosrednaekimtrevor: PM me.10:46
trevornosrednaekim: I can't...10:49
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nosrednaekimtrevor: are you using 64 bit10:50
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trevornosrednaekim: no...10:50
trevornosrednaekim: I can't get 64 bit to start up...10:50
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andycrwho was asking about slow file transfers?10:50
trevornosrednaekim: What about Acer_acpi?10:50
trevorI can't get it to work at all on gutsy...10:51
trevorI don't know if we can do this...10:51
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trevorI can't PM. Can't email.10:51
nosrednaekimhummm does iwconfig show you anything by way of ath0?10:51
lontrais there a way to get the default konqueror theme in kubuntu10:51
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trevorNot wlan0?10:52
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nosrednaekimtrevor: yeah...10:53
nosrednaekimtrevor: do you see a wlan0?10:53
trevornosrednaekim: No, and I thought that was the problem...10:53
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trevorNo, I've got 2...  lo, and eth010:54
nosrednaekimno... you should see both ath0 and wlan010:54
nosrednaekimhmm ok10:54
trevorI don't have either...10:54
nosrednaekimtrevor: did you try ndiswrapper?10:54
trevorIt's acting funny...10:54
trevornosrednaekim: I could install F*****  Vista, and this would just work.  Why does it have to be so hard with Linux?10:55
andycrtrevor: it's almost never this hard10:55
nosrednaekimcause Acer makes it hard.10:55
nosrednaekimLaptops are hard.10:55
andycrI've had it work with any laptop wifi chip, including an atheros10:55
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andycronly one ive had an issue with is an ipw394510:56
trevorYeah, but Acer has a jacked up ACPI...10:56
andycralso, I very much doubt vista supports it out of the box in the stock version either10:56
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trevorSo, you have to figure out how the hell to interface with it, and I'm getting mad...10:56
trevorNo, but I run a program that takes all of six seconds, and I'm free of wires...10:56
trevorOh, and when I called Acer, they said they don't support XP...10:57
trevorMight that be a problem?10:57
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andycrYeah, Microsoft makes them say that... The hardware does, they just don't deal with it anymore :/ HP said the same thing10:57
andycrAbout my sound card, which I did get working fine after them saying "Either install Vista or shut up", more or less10:58
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trevorWell, nos and I had this working before...10:58
trevorI remember, cause I went over to University Computing Services, and they helped me get it on the network...10:58
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trevorThey called NDISWrapper a dirty hack...10:58
andycrYeah, it is :)10:59
andycrA dirty hack, but it served me well for years10:59
andycrNever a disconnect with a netgear somethingorother10:59
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nosrednaekimtrevor: well go over there again:)10:59
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trevorI think I might have annoyed them...10:59
dergringoHey there. I just installed Kubuntu 7.10 rc1 on a brand new Thinkpad T61. How do I get the audio controls working? The solution on thinkwiki seems to be for Gnome only.10:59
trevorWe had problems with it when I was there too...10:59
andycrThey're IT, they're used to being annoyed10:59
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trevorWell, yeah...  They could have just handed me a vista disk, and sent me along my way, but instead, they took me to the cages in back, where they kept the linux geeks...11:00
andycrIf they won't help you, try your local LUG11:01
andycrMuch easier to solve in person11:01
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andycrLinux User's Group11:02
andycrie www.pplug.org11:02
andycrgroup of people who meet to discuss linux and solve problems people have11:02
andycrNormally meet monthly or bimonthly11:02
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andycrIf you're lucky there's one in your area soon, and you can bring the laptop to them and have them look at the problem11:03
andycrIf the school it wont fix it11:03
trevorOr, I could just wipe the hard disk, and dual boot vista, and xp...11:03
trevorThat way I can get on the wireless network...11:03
andycrThat works too, if you so wish11:03
trevorYou don't understand how mad I am...11:03
trevorThis is rediculous...11:04
andycrI do. I had similar problems before, too. It's not fun.11:04
trevorSpecially if it's been working before...11:04
trevorI HAD IT WORKING!11:04
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x_linkHow do I change in k3b so that it will support .mp3-files?11:06
andycrNo, I understand11:07
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trevorThe problem is, that Acer has a jacked up ACPI interface, and there aren't many ways to get to the wireless card, let alone get it to work...11:07
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trevorThere's a package that I've used before on Google Code, called acer_acpi...11:07
trevorI can't get it work in gutsy...11:07
trevorIt allows you to turn on the wireless card, which is the whole problem...11:08
trevorIt won't turn on, to install properly...11:08
trevorAnd, the drivers aren't installing properly, I don't think...11:08
trevorWAIT A SECOND!11:08
trevorI think I know how I got it working last time...11:08
trevorI think I used the vista driver...11:08
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trevorx_link: You need to get xine restricted plugins.11:13
chris__is it possible to get oxygen icon's on kde 3 still?11:13
trevorx_link: You running kubuntu, right?11:13
chris__me? yes11:13
x_linktrevor: Yes.11:13
andycrchris__: I think kde-look has them11:13
trevorx_link: Okay, well, open adept manager, and look for mp311:14
trevorx_link: Just like run a search, and that'll show you the package you need...11:14
chris__it has a script but that doesn't work, I was wondering whether there's a package like opensuse?11:14
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x_linktrevor: sudo aptitude install libk3b2-mp3 did it =)11:15
x_linkThanks anyway =)11:15
trevorOkay, acer_acpi won't modprobe...11:16
trevorInvalid module format?11:16
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trevorAnyone know anything about compiling?11:16
chris__depend's what?11:16
emilsedghtrevor: what do you want to compile?11:17
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andycrI've compiled kernel modules11:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about katpalt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:18
andycrchris__: Like this?11:18
andycrmight be what you want11:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about katapault - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about katpault - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:18
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.11:18
trevoremilsedgh: Acer_acpi11:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acer_acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:19
emilsedghtrevor: is that a kernel module ?11:19
andycrNot precompiled in repo it looks like sadly11:19
trevorGuys...  F*** it...  I'm getting dinner...11:19
Vermuxwhat is that?11:19
trevorI think so...11:19
trevorIt ends in KO11:19
trevorBut, when I do a make install, it says invalid module format...11:20
chris__thanks andy, i'll give it a go11:20
Vermuxandycr: what is katpult?11:20
andycrVermux: you know deskbar? it's a bit like that for kde11:20
Vermuxhave no idea11:20
chris__vermux press alt + space bar11:20
chris__if your in kde it load's katapult11:20
Vermuxand then, what it does?11:21
Vermuxalso, something wiered happaned. suddenly everything was stuck11:21
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tehkHello can anyone give me a tip on hiding gnome apps in my kmenu?11:22
Vermuxwhat can I do with Katapult?11:22
andycrVermux: Launch apps quickly11:22
andycrInstead of going through the menu to start konsole, just alt+space, kon, enter11:22
emilsedghVermux: or calculate mathematics, or even play your favourite song from AmaroK11:23
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trevorWhat's the konsole command for delete?11:23
trevorThank you...11:23
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Vermuxbut I can do that with alt+F@ too11:24
andycrVermux: no, there you have to type the whole name11:24
Vermuxno, just the first letter11:24
Vermuxit saved the whole word in memory11:24
andycrHmm. Guess it won't help you much then11:24
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andycrDidn't remember it doing that11:25
VermuxI tried to launch Kcalc but it doesnt give the option11:25
lontraVermux: use speedcrunch11:25
lontratehk: you could use the menu editor and just remove them11:26
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andycrtrevor: Are you using acer_acpi 0.4? Apparently that's the only version that works with newer kernels11:26
Vermuxok, it works for that, but why it wont work for KCalc?11:26
trevorandycr: ?11:26
lontraVermux: are you sure kcalc is installed?11:26
trevorNo, I'm using .9something...11:27
lontraVermux: i don't believe it is by default11:27
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trevorandycr: Really?11:27
trevorI can try that...11:27
trevorBut, then i have to go eat food...11:27
VermuxI installed it today11:27
lontraVermux: well it should work with katapult11:27
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Vermuxit doesnt show it11:27
lontraVermux: maybe you might consider restarting KDE and see if that makes a difference11:27
Vermuxmaybe it needs reboot?11:27
lontraVermux: have you restarted KDE since install kcalc?11:27
fdovingVermux: with katapult you need to start typing the name, not the command, name as show in the kmenu.11:27
lontraVermux: consider restarting KDE and see if that makes a difference11:27
lontrafdoving: isn't kcalc ... just kcalc?11:28
cosmo_I have my father's computer set up to dual boot now with window and ubuntu, is there a way on the grub OS selection screen to move windows to the top so that when the timer runs out it will default boot into windows, it is how he would like it to work?11:28
fdovingVermux: try for example speedcrunch - kcalc shouldn't be installed by default iirc.11:28
lontrafdoving: he installed it ... read above11:28
Vermuxyes, it works with speedcrucnch11:28
Vermuxbut not with Kcalc11:29
kreibcosmo : in /boot/grub/menu.lst you set default distro to boot11:29
lontraVermux: restart KDE and see if that helps11:29
fdovinglontra, vermux: ok, then it might need a kbuildsycoca.11:29
fdovingVermux: try to run the command 'kbuildsycoca' without sudo.11:29
Vermuxis there an option to save everything that is open so when I log on again it appears again?11:29
lontraVermux: that should be the default KDE option11:30
fdovingleave the apps open.11:30
lontraVermux: but it's in kcontrol under sessions11:30
Vermuxwhat is kcontrol?11:30
fdovingkde control center.11:30
martin_Just intalled Gutsy 7.10 on a new Dell Vostro. Apart from some funkiness with the bottom inch of the lcd it worked flawlessly. Now fixed with the updates from adept. Nice :)11:30
VermuxI want everything that I have open on the desktop to appear again without me having to open everything again11:30
chris__do people use adept or synaptic more?11:31
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lontraVermux: just exit ... it should work11:31
lontrachris__: probably more people use adept if they use kubuntu as it's QT based11:31
lontrachris__: synaptic is GTK better integration with GNOME but nice nonetheless11:31
fdovingit's also installed by default on kubuntu.11:31
Vermuxbut what was that kbuild...\?11:31
lontrafdoving: synaptic is?11:32
fdovingVermux: kbuildsycoca11:32
Vermuxwhat is it?11:32
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fdovinglontra: not on kubuntu, it's installed on ubuntu.11:32
lontrafdoving: sure11:32
fdovingVermux: it rebuilds the kde system config cache. (basically reads all the config files and makes a sweet and fast database out of it)11:32
martinBirmingham<- it didn't just crash (connecting via a mobile phone, cuts out when someone calls.... brilliant)11:32
Vermuxand what is kcontrol?11:32
chris__yeah it's just that I find adept buggy11:33
Vermuxand how is that connected to what I want to do?11:33
lontrachris__: use synaptic or apt-get from CLI then11:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kcontrol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:33
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fdovingVermux: if you recently installed kcalc it might not be in the system for katapult to pick it up.11:33
lontraVermux: kcontrol is the KDE control center which is kind of deprecated with kubuntu's system settigns11:34
lontraVermux: kubuntu's system settings will be the new control center in KDE 4.011:34
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Vermuxso what do I have to do?11:35
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lontraVermux: just restart KDE and see if it works11:35
chris__how do you change the k menu icon?11:35
Vermuxand if I lose everything that I have opened?11:35
lontrachris__: that's a little tricky ... you'll need to replace all instances to kmenu the current theme your using in /usr/share/icon11:36
lontrachris__: kmenu.png i guess11:36
chris__ok, I can do that, cheers11:36
erovwhat if i lose the K icon :) how do i get it back ...11:37
Vermuxlontra: I have many links and programs open on the desktop and taskbar, it will ddisplay them again after I log off?11:37
chris__make a backup of the k icon first?11:37
erovthe whole "k menu" has disappeared..11:37
erovthe functionality11:37
lontrachris__: that would be a good idea11:37
erovnot just the icon..11:37
lontrachris__: so cp kmenu.png to kmenu.png.old11:37
lontraerov: the whole menu is gone?11:37
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lontraerov: right click panel -> configure panel and add the kmenu back11:38
erovim there but cant seem to find that11:38
lontraerov: right click panel -> add applet to panel11:38
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Vermuxlontra: ??11:39
erovthank you11:39
lontraVermux: yes i believe it will by default11:39
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martinBirmingham"K Menu" is listed between Klipper and Konqueror profiles in an interesting take on "alphabetical order"11:39
Vermuxlontra: ok11:39
lontrawell 'm' is between 'l' and 'o'  :)11:40
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frank_how do I disable compiz?11:41
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martinBirminghamlontra: I know that :) I've just never seen a alphabetical system that ignores whitespace11:43
martinBirmingham"K Menu" would come before "Kat" in my head... maybe it's just me?!11:43
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chris__frank, disable compiz on kubuntu?11:46
chris__alt + f2 and then type "kwin --replace"11:46
frank_chris__: ok thanks11:47
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Vermuxthis is genious!11:47
martinBirminghamare the "desktop effects" stuff coming to kde? are they here already & i'm missing out? :)11:47
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stdinyou can install compiz-fusion in kubuntu (gutsy), but it won't be enabled by default11:49
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Vermuxlontra: that is genious!11:50
lontraVermux: what is?11:50
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lontrakittens make one tired11:51
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Vermuxlontra: I got used to Win losing or shutting off all data that is opened if loging off Win11:51
lontraVermux: yes the beauty of KDE!11:51
frank_it's a good thing that compiz is not enabled by default in kubuntu.11:52
Vermuxlontra: in kubuntu it saved everything and opened it!11:52
lontraVermux: you can turn that off to if you want ... but it sounds like you like it11:52
Vermuxlontra: why turning it off?11:52
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lontraVermux: so you can start with a completely empty session11:52
lontraVermux: but you like to start where you left off it sounds like11:52
Vermuxlontra: does it save everything also if unexpectedly the system is shutting down?11:53
lontraVermux: no ... then it will resort to your last safe logout/shutdown11:53
Vermuxyes, I like that option- to keep it11:53
stdinno, it saves the session at logout11:53
lontraVermux: so if you kill X or something it won't save that session11:53
Vermuxwhat is kill x?11:53
Vermux!kill x11:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kill x - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:53
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:54
lontraVermux: alt+ctrl+backspace11:54
lontraVermux: don't press that though :)11:54
lontraVermux: it'll kill X11:54
Vermuxby the way that what I presses11:54
Vermuxbecause earlier when I logged off, it froze11:54
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lontraVermux: exactly .. and that's a proper time to kill X11:55
lontraVermux: another time is when you're configuring X11:55
Vermuxlontra: so I played with the keyboard to try to release the computer from this situation before powering it off11:55
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lontraVermux: if you're computer freezes try to kill X first before trying to force a reboot11:55
Vermuxlontra: but, why the log out process froze?11:56
chris__oxygen script didn't work as the svn cannot be found, anyone know the new svn?11:56
lontraVermux: not sure ...11:56
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lontraVermux: video card issues maybe?11:56
Vermuxlontra: have no idea11:56
lontraVermux: can always check your xorg log11:56
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Vermuxso anytime I press control alt delete is restarts?11:56
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Vermuxlontra: how do I check that?11:57
lontraVermux: maybe i don't remember ... and i never use it ... i think it does11:57
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Vermuxlontra:  how come u never use it?11:57
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lontraVermux: cause using alt+ctrl+del to restart isn't a good idea :)11:58
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lontraVermux: you could lose data11:58
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lontraVermux: use kmenu or drop to a terminal and type sudo shutdown -h 011:58
Vermuxso, in case nothing works is it a good idea?11:58
lontraVermux: sure11:58
lontraVermux: if not use the power button11:58
lontraVermux: for your X freeze ... maybe something is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:59
lontraVermux: so you'd want to open it with any editor (kate, kwrite, kword, openoffice word, nano, etc.)11:59
lontraVermux: and look for EE11:59
lontraVermux: those are errors11:59
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Vermuxhow do I remember that location, or getting in to it quickly?12:01
lupulhi there. is any way to uninstall grub boo loader? so that i can erase the linux partition12:01
lontraVermux: use konqueror or in a terminal type cd /var/log/12:01
lontraVermux: then kate Xorg.0.log12:01
stdinlupul: just overwrite it12:01
lupuldamn keyboard12:01
stdinlupul: you want windows bootloader back?12:02
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stdinlupul: boot in to a rescue console from the Windows cd and type "fixmbr"12:02
lupulmy first partition has windows. the second linux, and the third, data.12:02
lupuland if i don't have the cd? :D12:02
stdinthen you're stuck12:02
stdinyou can still use grub to boot windows12:03
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lupulthanks, and another question. why do the movies in kaffeine look green? codecs right?12:04
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stdindepends on the file type of the video12:05
lupulavi most of them12:05
stdinavi is tricky, it could be mpeg, could be divx or could be wmv12:05
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lupuli don't know. the joey seasons and mash12:06
lupulthey're all green12:06
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redheatHi everyone12:07
stdinopen konsole and do "file video.avi" (replacing "video.avi" with the filename) to find out what codec it's using12:07
redheatfrom time to time I get an error where the upper toolbars any open window disappear,12:08
redheatI'm running latest version of Kubuntu on Gutsy Gibbon 7.1012:08
stdinGutsy help in #ubuntu+112:08
redheatyes I said I'm talking about an error in KDE on Gutsy Gibbon 7.1012:09
lupulmpeg 1 layer 312:09
redheatoh ok..12:09
redheatsorry thought you were talking to me..12:09
stdinredheat: yes, gutst help in #ubuntu+112:10
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Vermuxlontra: how do I locate the point just before logging out?12:10
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VermuxI found this: "EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable"12:10
redheatyes, but I don't want help about gutsy, and thank you of course for taking time to answer my question, I have a problem with Kubuntu running on gutsy, and this is a gutsy12:10
stdinlupul: hmm, should be supported. could be the video driver12:10
redheata Kubuntu channel right?12:10
andycrredheat: The toolbars or the titlebars?12:11
Vermuxlontra: but how do I know that it happaned when logging off?12:11
lupulthan surely is the video12:11
andycrreheat: You're running compiz, right?12:11
stdinredheat: you're running gutsy, so you need to ask in #ubuntu+112:11
redheatI have compiz-fusion running12:11
andycrYeah, thats a bug in the gtk window decorator12:11
redheatyes and its running perfectly, the error goes away the moment I log out and log in again12:11
andycrOnly solution I know of is to either ignore it or switch to emerald12:11
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redheatthe error message generated a report I can send it to you if you want12:12
lontraVermux: you don't12:12
lontraVermux: i doubt that would cause the error12:12
stdinI'll say it again, if you're running Gutsy, then support is only in #ubuntu+112:12
redheatandycr do you want me to send you the report12:12
Vermuxlontra: why there is no time stamp?12:12
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andycrredheat: I don't know why that occurs, I only know why the titlebar goes white12:13
lontraVermux: not sure ... i don't know a ton about X sorry12:13
andycrredhead: you might ask in #ubuntu-xeffects12:13
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Vermuxok  I think I'll leave it for now. way too advanced for now12:13
redheatin my case the titlebars just disappear..I mean as if the windows become imposed12:13
Vermuxlontra: so if the computer crushes it wont save the desktop?12:14
redheatany how thank you for your help andycr..truely appreciate it and you too stdin...thank people12:14
andycrnp, hope it helps12:14
lontraVermux: no12:14
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LEGO_Technicno NetSplits too bad12:19
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LEGO_TechnicI didn't get kicked12:20
LEGO_TechnicI'm teh best12:20
stdinno one got kicked, it was a netsplit12:20
LEGO_Technicno it wasn't12:20
LEGO_Technicin NetSplit there would come up a message saying NetSplit12:21
LEGO_Technicthat was a silent split12:21
stdinwell it was a netsplit12:21
LEGO_Technicyou know like if you drink dr pepper upside down with 3 eggs in your lef thand12:21
stdinno matter what you call it12:21
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LEGO_Technicstdin | stdout12:22
LEGO_Technicmuch better now12:22
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Seek_Therapyanyone know how to configure nexxus12:27
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azzcoHi I just upgraded to gutsy and kdm isn't working, (I've logged in with gdm) where's the log?12:28
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gnomefreakazzco: /var/log/12:29
azzcoThanks gnomefreak12:29
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azzcoOh wait maybe I shuold reboot into the new kernel first...12:30
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