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[01:43] <lamont> cprov-out: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5
[01:43] <lamont> le huh??
[01:46] <stdin> wow, so good they built it twice
[01:47] <Odd_Bloke> s/good/nice/
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[03:28] <cprov-out> lamont: don't worry, it's one of the victims of the 'duplicated-build-disaster'. It will get fixed after gutsy release.
[03:28] <lamont> ok
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[03:32] <lamont> only 4022 build records to clear, and about a week to do it... hrm.
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[05:16] <lamont> as in I keep seeing it building
[05:16] <lamont> and then it's building again later
[05:25] <lamont> and claiming that primero and kohnen are building it (or some such..)
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[10:26] <bersace> Hi all
[10:26] <bersace> How to fix a "Fail to upload" error ?
[10:26] <bersace> ah ok
[10:26] <bersace> i found the bug
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=== Topic for #launchpad: https://launchpad.net | Next developer meeting: Thu 18 Oct 2007, 1400UTC | List: launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39
=== Topic (#launchpad): set by mrevell at Thu Oct 11 18:18:01 2007
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[01:05] <iwj> Would some Malone or Soyuz developer care to take a quick look at bug 151925 and (i) set the status of the Launchpad task appropriately and (ii) answer my question at the bottom about the delay interval for my workaround ?
[01:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 151925 in autopkgtest "Bugs set to Fix Released by changelog-closes-bugs before fixed version is published" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151925 - Assigned to Ian Jackson (ijackson)
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[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #151925 in autopkgtest "Bugs set to Fix Released by changelog-closes-bugs before fixed version is published" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151925
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[01:24] <bigjools> iwj: stuff generally gets published every hour, so that's a good starting point
[01:24] <iwj> bigjools: OK, well, I'll call it 2 or 3h then.
[01:25] <bigjools> iwj: ok :)
[01:26] <iwj> Note that this number has to include build time too.
[01:28] <bigjools> indeed
[01:48] <AnMaster> how do you do the bzr+ssh thing so only bzr+ssh but not for example ssh and starting bash works?
[01:48] <mwhudson> AnMaster: custom ssh daemon
[01:48] <AnMaster> mwhudson, ah, non open source?
[01:48] <AnMaster> I was trying to run some commands like /bin/bash --norc with it
[01:49] <mwhudson> AnMaster: well it's based on twisted.conch
[01:49] <mwhudson> the parts that aren't conch aren't amazingly exciting
[01:49] <AnMaster> so sshd in python
[01:49] <AnMaster> interesting
[01:50] <AnMaster> mwhudson, I'm still interesting in seeing how it works :)
[01:50] <AnMaster> I would need something like that for another restricted service myself (though not bzr in this case)
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[01:57] <mwhudson> AnMaster: it's really pretty simple
[01:57] <mwhudson> conch's ISession interface has an execCommand method
[01:57] <AnMaster> mwhudson, if you are good at python: I bet
[01:57] <mwhudson> look at what you get asked to execute
[01:57] <mwhudson> either execute it, or don't
[01:57] <AnMaster> I'm not good at python (though I'm good at some other languages)
[01:58] <AnMaster> hm interesting
[01:58] <AnMaster> mwhudson, but why do ssh username@bazaar.launchpad.net "/bin/bash --norc" cause so odd results?
[01:58] <AnMaster> that is you are dropped to something that seem like cat - > /dev/null
[01:59] <mwhudson> i don't know
[02:02] <spiv> That'd be a bug.  It ought to be rejecting the request to exec that command (or perhaps just closing the channel?).
[02:03] <AnMaster> spiv, well try it and see what I mean
[02:03] <spiv> I did.
[02:03] <AnMaster> it doesn't run the command but it does something odd
[02:07] <spiv> Right, that server will not run arbitrary commands for you.
[02:08] <spiv> The bug is that it doesn't refuse them clearly; the client just thinks nothing's happening.  The server ought to be explicitly rejecting the "please run this command" request.
[02:09] <spiv> I think there may already be a bug on launchpad-bazaar about this.  (If not, there should be.)
[02:10] <AnMaster> well I won't search and report, I got some other things to do atm
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #151950 in launchpad-bazaar "the branch listings should be searchable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/151950
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[03:01] <stgraber> Any LP admin around with some time to rename ubuntu-qa-tracker to ubuntu-qa-website ?
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[03:09] <mrevell> stgraber: Hi
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[03:09] <stgraber> hi mrevell 
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[03:10] <mrevell> stgraber: The best way to request that is to file a support request at: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[03:10] <mrevell> stgraber: I'd happily do it for you but if you file it you'll get the response from Tom when he sorts it.
[03:10] <mrevell> yo Hobbsee
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[03:11] <stgraber> mrevell: ok, I'll do that
[03:11] <mrevell> stgraber: thanks
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[04:05] <shriphani> doesn't launchpad host projects? like providing repos etc ?
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[04:40] <iwj> I'm getting repeated timeouts trying to file a bug against firefox.
[04:40] <iwj> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+filebug
[04:40] <iwj> and I type "irc URL doesn't work" into the box.
[04:40] <iwj> OOPS-650EC90 for example.
[04:41] <iwj> Aha, it seems to have worked.  I wonder if it will let me submit it.
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[04:46] <popey> mrevell: what's the process when a launchpad user is spamming the wiki?
[04:46] <mrevell> popey: which wiki?
[04:46] <popey> w.u.c
[04:46] <mrevell> popey: Well, everyone using w.u.c is a Launchpad user :)
[04:46] <mrevell> popey: Sorry, I think I might be misunderstanding what you mean.
[04:47] <popey> ok, I'll edit your page and say you suck.. what you going to do? :)
[04:47] <mrevell> popey: hehe
[04:47] <popey> 15:05:19 < popey> https://edge.launchpad.net/~Rosebuntu seems to keep naffing up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[04:47] <popey> 15:05:29 < popey> repeatedly editing out other peoples names and screwing with urls
[04:47] <popey> 15:44:36 < popey> and again
[04:47] <popey> is this one for jono?
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[04:47] <popey> i have reverted the change twice, and others have reverted rosebuntus change also
[04:48] <mrevell> popey: It depends how urgent it is. I can certainly speak to one of the admins and ask for a hold to put be on the account if it's urgent. However, I'd suggest Jono's probably the one to speak to as it's an Ubuntu community matter I'd say.
[04:48] <popey> ok
[04:48] <popey> will do
[04:49] <mrevell> Perhaps we should have a conversation with Jono.
[04:49] <mrevell> To make sure I also understand the Ubuntu community process
[04:49] <mrevell> I'll ping him into the channel
[04:49] <popey> ok
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[04:50] <jono> hey
[04:50] <popey> moo
[04:50] <popey> jono: https://edge.launchpad.net/~Rosebuntu seems to keep naffing up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[04:51] <popey> i have reverted the change twice, and others have reverted rosebuntus change also
[04:51] <jono> one sec
[04:52] <jono> popey: how naffing up?
[04:53] <popey> changing urls to the korean wiki and korean loco team home page
[04:53] <popey> and sometimes changing the name of the loco contact
[04:53] <jono> popey: has someone contacted rosebuntu about this?
[04:54] <popey> i sent a mail to rosebuntu
[04:54] <popey> and they edited the page again after I sent it
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[04:55] <jono> popey: right, first step is to ask he/she to stop doing it I guess
[04:55] <Hobbsee> why did i read he/she/it there?
[04:55] <popey> the drugs aren't working Hobbsee ?
[04:56] <Hobbsee> i dunno...
[04:57] <jono> Hobbsee: I think you need more sleep, chuck
[04:57] <jono> :)
[04:57] <Hobbsee> jono: mmm...maybe...
[04:57] <jono> Hobbsee: :)
[04:58] <mrevell> jono welcome to the happy Launchpad family.
[04:58] <mrevell> :)
[04:58] <jono> mrevell: :)
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[05:41] <RainCT> Hi
[06:03] <RainCT> some LP guy there?
[06:08] <gmb> c!
[06:08] <gmb> RainCT: Sure, how can I help?
[06:10] <RainCT> gmb: Hi. I've noticed a while ago that you can create a branch with underscores (_) in the name on Launchpad and it will work fine, but if you try to change it's description there it won't let you, saying that it don't allows the character in the name.. I just wondered if you already know about this
[06:11] <gmb> RainCT: Ah. I think this is an issue which has cropped up recently. I'm not the person to talk to about it though. Hang on and I'll see if I can find someone who can be of more use to you :)
[06:13] <RainCT> gmb: ok, thanks. (for the caase you thing so, this is no problem for me right now, I just say it so that you know about it ;))
[06:14] <gmb> RainCT: Okay. Thanks for giving us the heads up. I think that we do know about it but that's not my area of expertise in LP, so I just wanted to be sure.
[06:16] <mwhudson> RainCT: hi
[06:16] <mwhudson> RainCT: this is bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/95109
[06:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 95109 in launchpad-bazaar "It is possible to register branches with '_' in their name" [High,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Michael Hudson (mwhudson)
[06:17] <mwhudson> it'll be fixed soon
[06:17] <mwhudson> i was going to fix it yesterday but another bug i was on took way longer than i expected to finish
[06:18] <RainCT> ok, thanks. what will the fix be? allow underscores or make it impossible to use them neither with bzr?
[06:18] <AnMaster> mwhudson, _ should be allowed IMO
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[06:19] <mwhudson> AnMaster: that's a different question, in some sense
[06:20] <AnMaster> and I prefer to use same name in all places for a branch
[06:20] <mwhudson> RainCT: to ban underscores
[06:20] <AnMaster> ugh why?
[06:20] <mwhudson> RainCT: with launchpad
[06:20] <AnMaster> why do you hate underscores?
[06:20] <mwhudson> RainCT: of course you can call local branches whatever your filesystem wants to call them
[06:21] <mwhudson> AnMaster: it's harder to communicate
[06:21] <mwhudson> AnMaster: read the bug report
[06:21] <AnMaster> and how often do you say a branch name?
[06:21] <AnMaster> I mean often you write it
[06:21] <AnMaster> like on irc
[06:22] <mwhudson> AnMaster: i could talk to you about it, but it's 5 pm on a friday
[06:22] <mwhudson> so i'm going to go and play quake instead
[06:22] <AnMaster> mwhudson, if you want that, I should note that saying ~ is hard too
[06:22] <AnMaster> ;P
[06:22] <radix> AnMaster: you should really read the bug report for the basic arguments :)
[06:22] <mwhudson> have a nice weekend
[06:22] <RainCT> ...they're hard to type, read out and so forth Really? I personally prefer underscores instead of -'s, the only problem with them is if the text is  understroked
[06:22] <AnMaster> radix, ~ is used in launchpad urls
[06:22] <AnMaster> yet it is hard to say
[06:22] <AnMaster> what is the name in English even? wiggly dash?
[06:22] <radix> tilde
[06:23] <mwhudson> the really really bad part of the bug is that different parts of the system disagree on what branches are called
[06:23] <RainCT> mwhudson: well, good weekend. thx
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[08:00] <sinequanon> hi all.  I have something of a stupid question, so apologies in advance.  Can the launchpad bug tracker be used for non-FOSS projects?  It seems that the PPA license agreement would preclude commercial projects, but the general terms of service page doesn't seem to say anything on the matter.
[08:02] <statik> sinequanon: it's not a stupid question. you can email me (elliot at canonical dot com) with the particulars of your situation and we can discuss it
[08:07] <mdke> statik: it would be interesting to hear more about that actually; the front page of LP refers to the "free software world", is there more documentation about the subject?
[08:09] <statik> mdke: not much documentation at the moment, unfortunately. it's kind of a quid pro quo thing, we are happy to provide LP for free to free software projects, but if non-free projects want to use the service then we ask to negotiate individually
[08:11] <mdke> statik: ok cool.  but if the service is available to non-foss projects, probably the word "free" should be removed from that phrase on the front page, to make it accurate, right?
[08:13] <statik> mdke: I think the description is still accurate, LP makes it easy to interact with free software projects
[08:14] <mdke> heh. As a matter of language it's accurate, yes
[08:14] <statik> mdke: but perhaps it could be improved, I haven't thought about that before
[08:15] <mdke> just dropping "free" would make it a more complete description, I think (plus it might encourage more non-foss projects). You'd need to develop a bit of documentation about how non-foss projects can contact you and so on
[08:20] <mwhudson> well, it's assumed that the non-foss projects that want to use launchpad will still interact with the foss projects i think
[08:21] <ScottK> FOSS projects might not be happy about that though.
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[09:44] <FlyingPig> free cd
[09:44] <FlyingPig> i cant do this
[09:45] <FlyingPig> HELLO?
[09:45] <FlyingPig> HELP ME ORDER GUSTY GIBBON
[09:45] <FlyingPig> HELLO??????????????
[09:46] <synic> wow.
[09:47] <synic> FlyingPig: do you have a launchpad account?
[09:48] <FlyingPig> synic i dont think so, no
[09:48] <synic> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/login
[09:48] <FlyingPig> synic k
[09:48] <synic> apparently you need to create a launchpad account
[09:50] <FlyingPig> synic ok now i did this
[09:50] <FlyingPig> now i want order gutsy gibbon cd
[09:50] <synic> then login at that page, and you can fill out your address, etc.
[09:50] <FlyingPig> ok
[09:53] <FlyingPig> synic ok now i did this. thanks for all help sir. i will install on all computer in my house and company. maybe i will donate some money for you as thanks in future.
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[09:53] <FlyingPig> synic if i use feisty fawn today and i not want to destroy all my gui settings how i get this settings on my new ubuntu without doing over all settings is there a file i can copy and paste over?
[09:53] <synic> don't donate any money to me, I had nothing to do with it.  Donate to Ubuntu :)
[09:54] <FlyingPig> yes ok
[09:54] <synic> FlyingPig: you can do it over the network.. once Gutsy is released, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all instances of feisty to gutsy... save it, apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[09:54] <synic> I dunno if you can do it via the CD... you probably can, but I don't know how.
[09:55] <Spads> synic: that's not the recommended way to upgrade
[09:55] <synic> Spads: what is?
[09:56] <FlyingPig> synic i thought the sources list only have urls for sudo apt-get install
[09:56] <FlyingPig> ???
[09:56] <Spads> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[09:56] <FlyingPig> spads i want have same Gnome settings in new ubuntu please
[09:56] <Spads> but this is probably a topic best kept to #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1
[09:56] <FlyingPig> what file i need to copy and paste?
[09:56] <Spads> It is not relevant to Launchpad per se.
[09:57] <Spads> FlyingPig: #ubuntu can help you out better than I can.
[09:57] <FlyingPig> spads ok thanks
[09:57] <FlyingPig> ok i order cd and it work so i am done here. thank
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[10:24] <stdin> wow, someone want LP to be their friend
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[10:49] <jjesse> quick question to update my local branch from launchpad i do a bzr merge correct?
[10:50] <synic> or pull, depending on if you have local changes
[10:50] <jjesse> thanks synic
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[12:27] <mae^> how do I add a bug report?
[12:27] <stdin> to what?
[12:28] <mae^> a project
[12:28] <radix> go to that project's Launchpad page, and there should be a "report a bug" button on it.
[12:28] <stdin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/<PROJECT>/+filebug
[12:28] <mae^> I'm in the bugs tab and all i see is list {assigned,related} bugs, show pkg report, list subscribed bugs and mentoring offered
[12:29] <mae^> radix: when you say the project page, do you mean the overview tab?
[12:29] <radix> mae^: sure, there's one there. there's also one in the main Bugs tab page, too.
[12:29] <pochu_> mae^: look at the right, not at the left :)
[12:30] <radix> mae^: What URL are you looking at that doesn't have a Report a Bug button?
[12:30] <mae^> hmmm.. i dunno why i'm not seeing it
[12:30] <mae^> https://launchpad.net/~activerdf/
[12:30] <radix> that's a team, not a project.
[12:30] <mae^> ah!
[12:31] <radix> https://edge.launchpad.net/activerdf <-- that's probably what you want
[12:32] <mae^> thanks
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[12:44] <danigm_> hi, I have a question about the log of a branch in launchpad. I have a team, and in the team there are two people, each developer has their branch, and when he push it, the log of the other developer disappear, and it's reemplaced with the new log branch.
[12:46] <danigm_> there is some method for show all changes, including the parent branch
[12:46] <danigm_> ?
[12:48] <mdke> statik: I filed the issue we discussed earlier as a bug; maybe others will have some thoughts