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| nothlit | https://people.fluxbuntu.org/~nothlit/tablet_fun/ mypaint brush tests :) | 07:05 |
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| KidProQuo | kwwii: when are the official guidelines for Hardy due out? | 08:35 |
| KidProQuo | anyone? | 08:49 |
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| kwwii | KidProQuo: probably sometime like the end of next week or the beginning of the next | 10:01 |
| KidProQuo | kwwii, thanks. I heard it was brown & orange mainly; what kind of orange are we talking? bright, light, dark, etc? | 10:04 |
| kwwii | actually it will be black and orange mainly | 10:05 |
| kwwii | so the brown is kinda going away | 10:05 |
| KidProQuo | that's what I meant, black | 10:05 |
| KidProQuo | anyway, what kind of orange? | 10:05 |
| kwwii | I'll make a palette soon but I would think that it will be more darker oranges than lighter ones | 10:05 |
| KidProQuo | Ok, thanks. I'll get my thinking cap on. | 10:06 |
| KidProQuo | :-) | 10:06 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-artwork: Next team meeting sometime around Nov 2nd 17:00UTC :: Check out the revamped http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ :: Coming very soon to a wiki near you: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy | ||
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| lassegul | sry | 12:59 |
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| hellraiser_rob | Hey folks, anyone got any tips for someone just joined? | 03:32 |
| _MMA_ | hellraiser_rob: What would you like to do? | 03:33 |
| hellraiser_rob | I feel i could contribute in quite a few areas, i guess what i'm after is advice as to what needs help working on? | 03:34 |
| _MMA_ | Well the WIKI for info on Hardy's art will be up soon. | 03:35 |
| _MMA_ | Reading that will be a good start. | 03:35 |
| hellraiser_rob | ah thats explains it, i thought it looked a bit sparce | 03:35 |
| hellraiser_rob | i get everything has been tidied now gutsy is going out the door? | 03:35 |
| hellraiser_rob | get=guess | 03:35 |
| _MMA_ | Gutsy is done yes. | 03:35 |
| hellraiser_rob | which would be here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy | 03:36 |
| hellraiser_rob | ? | 03:36 |
| hellraiser_rob | i guess i should wait for the new artwork direction advice | 03:37 |
| _MMA_ | That will be it yes. I believe its a work-in-progress ATM. | 03:37 |
| hellraiser_rob | what kind of work do you do _MMA_? | 03:37 |
| _MMA_ | I'm the lead on Ubuntu Studio. | 03:37 |
| _MMA_ | hellraiser_rob: Do you have examples of your work? | 03:38 |
| hellraiser_rob | i guess i would say i'm looking to give something back even if it is a small amount: http://www.robertjamesphillips.com/ | 03:39 |
| hellraiser_rob | Do you think i could be of any use? | 03:41 |
| _MMA_ | hellraiser_rob: If you want to take a look our page is farther along. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialHardyIncoming | 03:41 |
| _MMA_ | hellraiser_rob: Well that's up to you. Having self-motivation is key IMO. | 03:43 |
| hellraiser_rob | interesting concepts for studio | 03:43 |
| hellraiser_rob | it's surprising that your going so far away from the main branch design | 03:43 |
| _MMA_ | So once the pages are further along for Ubuntu, read the wiki and post your ideas. | 03:43 |
| _MMA_ | hellraiser_rob: "main branch" is what? Ubuntu? | 03:44 |
| hellraiser_rob | yeah sorry i'm not up with the lingo yet | 03:44 |
| lassegul | nothlit: ping? | 03:45 |
| _MMA_ | hellraiser_rob: np. In any case, if you're looking for an "assignment" it doesnt work that way. | 03:47 |
| _MMA_ | Just post your ideas to the wiki once its done. :) | 03:47 |
| hellraiser_rob | yeah i assumed it would be way to busy for that | 03:47 |
| hellraiser_rob | well thanks for the advice | 03:48 |
| _MMA_ | np | 03:48 |
| hellraiser_rob | I also guess there is some technical skill within this "artwork" group in order to implement the designs? | 03:51 |
| hellraiser_rob | or are the graphics simply handed over? | 03:51 |
| _MMA_ | hellraiser_rob: Could you elaborate? | 03:52 |
| _MMA_ | Are you asking about the process? | 03:53 |
| hellraiser_rob | yeah | 03:53 |
| hellraiser_rob | i guess designs are all mocked up first | 03:53 |
| hellraiser_rob | revised, changed, finalised.....then sliced up and actually built (as in a theme created etc) | 03:54 |
| _MMA_ | Yeah. Thats pretty much it. | 03:55 |
| hellraiser_rob | and who would build the theme? the art group? | 03:58 |
| _MMA_ | "build" as in package? | 03:58 |
| hellraiser_rob | build as in slice it up and create the theme | 03:58 |
| _MMA_ | Im still missing what you're saying. :) Do you mean pick the best submissions for each part of the theme? | 03:59 |
| _MMA_ | ie: icons, walls, GTK theme, etc... | 04:00 |
| hellraiser_rob | sorry, my descriptions probably aren't very good | 04:00 |
| hellraiser_rob | i mean: | 04:00 |
| _MMA_ | Ubuntu has a art lead that will take into consideration all opinons. Mark S. also has a say. | 04:00 |
| hellraiser_rob | is it up to the artwork team to turn the designs into working parts (themes for example), or do they hand the designs over to another department, who build them | 04:01 |
| lassegul | hellraiser_rob: you mean like creating the gtkrc and stuff? | 04:01 |
| hellraiser_rob | yeah | 04:01 |
| _MMA_ | No. People submit that. :) | 04:01 |
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| _MMA_ | Like wallpaper, icons and what have you. | 04:02 |
| hellraiser_rob | yeah | 04:02 |
| hellraiser_rob | people submit that? What does that mean? | 04:02 |
| hellraiser_rob | oh i think i see | 04:02 |
| hellraiser_rob | ignore me now, | 04:02 |
| hellraiser_rob | i'm starting to annoy myself | 04:02 |
| _MMA_ | huh? What have we been talking about for the past 30mins? :) | 04:02 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 04:03 |
| hellraiser_rob | sometimes it's hard to understand bloody text conversations :) | 04:03 |
| hellraiser_rob | how do you find time to be lead for studio, do you have a fulltime job? | 04:04 |
| _MMA_ | No. I'm a stay-at-home Dad. | 04:04 |
| hellraiser_rob | that is a full time job! | 04:08 |
| hellraiser_rob | i read that the main form of communications is the mailing lists? | 04:16 |
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| hellraiser_rob | is this the most common way for people to send work etc | 04:17 |
| _MMA_ | hellraiser_rob: Using the WIKI? Yes. | 04:18 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: You around? | 04:19 |
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| kwwii | _MMA_: now I am | 04:34 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: I was just seeing if you could chime in on my chat with hellraiser_rob and just wondering whats up. How goes the day and all that jazz. | 04:36 |
| kwwii | I think I will change my nick to something so overtly positive that people will be nice to me | 04:36 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 04:36 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: yeah, just reading back | 04:36 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: today has been ubuntu-mobile hell | 04:36 |
| _MMA_ | :( | 04:36 |
| kwwii | well, nobody wants to work on the weekend and apparently it is a holiday in brazil so last night they decided that today is the deadline | 04:37 |
| kwwii | I was up all night | 04:37 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: re: nick. My normal internet name (fourms and such) is MetalMusicAddict. I started using IRC when most networks wouldnt take all those characters. So I had to shorten. | 04:38 |
| kwwii | hellraiser_rob: there is nobody who officialy helps with getting the more technical pieces together, so we need to search for help among the community developers in other channels, etc | 04:38 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: my nick is just my name, abbreviated but for years gnome people gave me shit because they said it meant "k world war 2" | 04:38 |
| _MMA_ | lol. Nice. ;) | 04:39 |
| kwwii | thanks be to god nintendo made the wii :-) now they say I am proud of owning a wii (which I don't even own) | 04:39 |
| _MMA_ | hahaha | 04:40 |
| nysosym | lol | 04:40 |
| _MMA_ | Man. Dont wanna work on the weekends. pftt... Thats crazy. | 04:40 |
| kwwii | I know that I will be working this weekend | 04:48 |
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| kwwii | but my son is leaving in a bit to stay at a friends house | 04:48 |
| kwwii | so I will definitely try not to do too much work tonight | 04:49 |
| _MMA_ | Yeah. Im not doing much till after UDS. | 04:49 |
| _MMA_ | Ill get Ubuntu Studio out the door then its time for a break. | 04:49 |
| _MMA_ | Go to Boston. Have some geeky fun. Eat some food. Spend time away from the crazy kids. Should be fun. ;) | 04:51 |
| kwwii | you should do it every 3 months and more as I do to see how un-fun it can be | 04:51 |
| kwwii | also, I'll be in Boston for 17 days :-( | 04:52 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Wow. Time enough to miss the family again. :) | 04:52 |
| kwwii | time enough to get really sick of sleeping in a hotel rooom | 04:53 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 04:53 |
| _MMA_ | Yeah. I see that. | 04:53 |
| kwwii | and being the only artist I get sick of listening to funny developer stories | 04:54 |
| _MMA_ | lol. | 04:54 |
| nysosym | funny developer stories? | 04:55 |
| nysosym | any developer has my greatest respect! | 04:55 |
| kwwii | "did you see code X...what I think you need to do is blahblubblah" - everyone chuckles | 04:55 |
| _MMA_ | And the use of "crackful" get old in reference to code. :) | 04:56 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: But the fact that you understand the geeky joke is also telling. ;) | 04:58 |
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| === _MMA_ also realizes its the pot callin' the kettle black. ;) | ||
| kwwii | _MMA_: lol, doubt | 05:05 |
| kwwii | I kept telling the intel people that they cannot expect me to do the technical stuff as I am just and artist, you should have heard their response | 05:06 |
| _MMA_ | Which was? :) | 05:07 |
| kwwii | basically they said "compared to our artists you are a geek" | 05:08 |
| _MMA_ | :D | 05:08 |
| _MMA_ | Our their artists OSX/Windows guys? | 05:08 |
| kwwii | pure osx people | 05:08 |
| _MMA_ | There ya go. :) | 05:09 |
| kwwii | well, I have two osx boxes as well | 05:09 |
| kwwii | :p | 05:09 |
| _MMA_ | You are the exception. | 05:09 |
| kwwii | I should just learn to shut my mouth | 05:09 |
| _MMA_ | Most Mac people I know are arty and dont even know they can bring up a terminal. | 05:09 |
| kwwii | terminal? what's that? :D | 05:11 |
| _MMA_ | ;) | 05:11 |
| kwwii | guess I should stop chatting with irssi before I say that | 05:11 |
| nysosym | i need a terminal very often and i use osx too :D | 05:11 |
| kwwii | I just wrote a bash script for a friend so that he can create indexes of his external drives | 05:12 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: On what OS? | 05:12 |
| kwwii | he does video production and until now was taking screenshots of the finder windows | 05:12 |
| kwwii | on OSX | 05:12 |
| kwwii | he wanted to be able to look for a file without having to hook up the drive | 05:13 |
| kwwii | I came to his office and one wall was nothing but taped-together printouts of screenshots | 05:13 |
| _MMA_ | There's nothing like Tracker or Beagle in OSX? | 05:13 |
| kwwii | sure but he has like 50 external harddisks and did not want to have to hook it up first | 05:14 |
| _MMA_ | Dont Tracker and Beagle do this. | 05:14 |
| _MMA_ | Well maybe not. | 05:14 |
| _MMA_ | 50!? Time to get a couple of TB drives. ;) | 05:14 |
| kwwii | he actually was going out to buy newer bigger drives | 05:15 |
| kwwii | he also has DVD backups for some stuff but that is very time consuming | 05:16 |
| kwwii | of course, he also has the original tapes and such | 05:16 |
| _MMA_ | Wow. | 05:16 |
| kwwii | man, I just saw my christmas present to myself...a 300mm/2.8 nikon lense | 05:20 |
| kwwii | costs only 4,500Euros | 05:20 |
| kwwii | :p | 05:20 |
| nysosym | ahhh a nikon fan :) | 05:20 |
| kwwii | my wife just stared at me like I was stupid | 05:20 |
| kwwii | guess I will have to buy it when she is not looking | 05:21 |
| _MMA_ | :D | 05:21 |
| kwwii | if she knew how much all my cameras and stuff cost she would probably divorce me | 05:21 |
| nysosym | girls doesn't understand what costs so much money on a lense :D | 05:21 |
| _MMA_ | Im hoping to get a Nokia 770/800 and a 30" Dell LCD Christmas. I doubt Ill get the LDC. I ll have to wait till the spring most likely. | 05:22 |
| nysosym | which model do you have kwwii? | 05:22 |
| kwwii | nysosym: I have a fuji S5 pro atm | 05:23 |
| kwwii | nysosym: but I am going to pick up a D3 when they come out in November | 05:23 |
| _MMA_ | Oh, and a bigger Wacom pad. :) | 05:23 |
| kwwii | I have a big wacom tablet and I love it | 05:23 |
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| kwwii | in fact, if anyone is looking for an a4 intuos3 I would be willing to get rid of it pretty cheap | 05:24 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Really? | 05:24 |
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| nysosym | wow a d3 my hearts beats on! :D | 05:24 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Works fine using wacom-tools I suppose right? | 05:25 |
| nysosym | kwwii what kind of photos did you shot? | 05:25 |
| hellraiser_rob | kwwii: Thanks for the clarification | 05:29 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: yepp | 05:30 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Ignore the PM. How many levels of sensitivity? Does it work fully in linux buttons and all? | 05:31 |
| kwwii | nysosym: I do all kinds of stuff, although not much sports | 05:31 |
| nysosym | kwwii: wow, any examples? | 05:31 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: not sure about the extra buttons, been a while since I tried to get them to work | 05:31 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Any chance of bringing it to Boston? | 05:32 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: sure I can bring it along | 05:32 |
| _MMA_ | Cool. | 05:32 |
| kwwii | nysosym: www.flickr.com is my personal stuff | 05:33 |
| _MMA_ | Depending on what you want for it I might be able to get the $ together. The sweatshirts I got printed and the trip in general got me pretty thin atm. Maybe after Boston. December-ish. | 05:34 |
| _MMA_ | But Im interested. | 05:34 |
| nysosym | kwwii: i can't find you there under "kwwii" | 05:34 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: I took it with me when I left SUSE so the price will be pretty low :-) | 05:35 |
| kwwii | they gave me both my tablets and one of my macs when I left | 05:35 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 05:35 |
| _MMA_ | Sweet. | 05:35 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Is it a 9X12? | 05:37 |
| kwwii | let me find a pic | 05:38 |
| kwwii | it is not the really big one | 05:38 |
| kwwii | I am keeping that one :-) | 05:38 |
| _MMA_ | I have a 4x5 now. | 05:39 |
| kwwii | erm, I take it back that it is an a4, it is an a5 intuos3 | 05:42 |
| kwwii | 34.5cm x 25cm or su | 05:43 |
| kwwii | so | 05:43 |
| kwwii | nysosym: www.flickr.com/photos/kwwii | 05:44 |
| kwwii | there are lots of pictures of my son though ;-) | 05:44 |
| kwwii | I don't post anything there that I sell, so most of the best pics are not on that page | 05:45 |
| nysosym | i see, is see and i like them :) | 05:45 |
| _MMA_ | Because I'm crazy, I want this: http://www.wacom.com/intuos/12x19.cfm | 05:46 |
| nysosym | yes, you are crazy :D | 05:47 |
| _MMA_ | Ooo.... Cool. http://www.wacom.com/cintiq | 05:47 |
| nysosym | i wanne have the wacom display, these is much better as any externel Tablett :) | 05:47 |
| _MMA_ | Though I want something thats 16:10. | 05:47 |
| nysosym | kwwii i love your macro shots! | 05:48 |
| hellraiser_rob | Are the majority of the art team US based? | 05:49 |
| nysosym | hmm i*ll say no | 05:49 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: yeah, if your monitor is wide, it is worth every penny to get a wide version | 05:49 |
| _MMA_ | hellraiser_rob: I dont know how much of a "team: it really is. Most of the people who hang out here seem to be pretty spread out. | 05:50 |
| kwwii | hellraiser_rob: I would guess that there are more europeans working on artwork than americans at this point | 05:50 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Yeah. After having the 24" LCD I could never go back to 4:3 | 05:50 |
| kwwii | although I am american I live in germany | 05:50 |
| hellraiser_rob | well thats good to know it's diverse | 05:51 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: I found that the most important thing is to have a tablet which is at least as big as your monitor | 05:51 |
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| hellraiser_rob | have a good weekend all | 05:51 |
| _MMA_ | Bye | 05:51 |
| troy_s | what do you guys use your tablets for? | 05:51 |
| nysosym | bye | 05:51 |
| kwwii | dude, the mailing list got a spam bomb today | 05:51 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Yeah. Seems a tablet the same size as my LCD would be more than the LCD itself. :) | 05:52 |
| kwwii | troy_s: I use it to draw with...although it is really nice to use in an "inking" kind of way | 05:52 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: lol, you're monitor is too big | 05:52 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: We got hit as well. I just block/rejected the address. | 05:53 |
| kwwii | I'll give you my small tablet and you give me your monitor | 05:53 |
| _MMA_ | Pfftt.. No such thing. | 05:53 |
| _MMA_ | Well the wife gets the 24 if I get the 30. ;) | 05:53 |
| _MMA_ | Though Apple has a 32 now I think. | 05:53 |
| _MMA_ | troy_s: You arent using you tablet in Inkscape? | 05:55 |
| kwwii | hehe | 05:59 |
| nysosym | troy_s: my current work for a computer game :) | 06:00 |
| nysosym | http://www.nysosym.de/crazyboy.png | 06:00 |
| nysosym | that's what i do with my wacom :) | 06:00 |
| _MMA_ | Thanx to jono for the link to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1WKYmx4i1Q :) | 06:04 |
| kwwii | lol, I think you just turned me on to a new hobby | 06:06 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 06:08 |
| nysosym | much better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZN1puUwH0c ^^ | 06:09 |
| _MMA_ | lolololol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBiLAy7mDbw | 06:09 |
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| kwwii | lol | 06:14 |
| kwwii | this guy has too much free time | 06:14 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 06:15 |
| _MMA_ | Theres TONS of videos. I didnt look at them all. I stopped with the cantena clip. | 06:16 |
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| kwwii | be back much later | 06:32 |
| _MMA_ | Later sir. | 06:34 |
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| nothlit | kwwii: if you have a tablet as large as your monitor you can do this ;p http://www.bongofish.co.uk/wacom/wacom_pt1.html | 07:58 |
| nothlit | theres youtube videos of it as well | 07:59 |
| nothlit | i don't find much of an advantage for digital painting, perhaps for inking, or anything in inkscape where zoom is death | 08:08 |
| nothlit | but on another computer i just used a tablet meant for writing chinese, never missed the 9x12... i think its more important to get the touchstrips and control buttons if you need them | 08:09 |
| nothlit | lassegul: pong | 08:11 |
| nothlit | oh, last reason for getting a large tablet would be if you would like to transfer/trace things digitally, rather than scan/shoot and trace as a layer | 08:12 |
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| Gadren | hi, i heard that the Ubuntu colors are moving away from brown and more toward orange and black -- is that true? | 11:49 |
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| nothlit | Gadren: that seems to be what sabdfl prefers, if you want to know about the official direction you'll have to wait for the official page to get populated | 12:24 |
| Gadren | nothlit: oh, ok -- is sabdfl a person? | 12:25 |
| nothlit | !sabdfl | 12:26 |
| ubotu | Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com | 12:26 |
| Gadren | oh :P | 12:26 |
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