[01:41] *raises an eyebrow* at Edwards' latest planet post.. [01:48] hehe [01:53] PriceChild: come on, it's so that in case the wiki crashes, there's a backup copy of the release notes on Planet! [01:53] though he forgot to paste the Xubuntu Kubuntu and Fluxbuntu ones [01:54] I was talking more about the way he calls it a Release Client [01:55] and Suitable for testing by any user makes my stomach turn now I see that. [01:56] well, blame Canonical for that [01:56] I do like "complete" when there are still release targeted critical bugs :) === tonyyarusso [i=c711e0a4@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tonyyarusso] by ChanServ [02:18] gnomefreak: I've only been testing so I go to a tty, kill metacity and then run tritium [02:29] teehee, I've succumbed [02:29] hmm? [02:29] PriceChild: ignore me :p [02:30] I upgraded my school drive to Gutsy with compiz goodies to play with during class [02:30] ahhh :) [02:30] stdin, hehe === tonyyarusso [i=c711e0a4@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tonyyarusso] by ChanServ === wii [n=wii@AMarigot-102-1-13-24.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-ops [02:59] dont hate me because im beautifull :) === wii [n=wii@AMarigot-102-1-13-24.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Konversation] [03:07] prat [03:09] please don't insult prats like that === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tritium] by ChanServ [03:41] i told him yesterday to come back in a week and we will se about unbanning him im seeing him everyday for the last few [03:41] well, you can probably guess my feeling towards him ;) [03:42] gnomefreak: i already told him he would never be unbanned [03:42] lmnworks for me [03:42] mneptok: works for me [03:42] gnomefreak: you're welcome to try. i'll just script somethinhg to add the ban back whenever it's removed. >;) [03:42] (kidding) [03:42] mneptok: we can get him added to autoban maybe [03:43] i'd like to add him to the CIA's list of "Probable North Korean Foreign Operatives" [03:43] can we do that yet? [03:43] i have to go to hosppital in morning but if im awake and feeling up to it ill ask about the autoban [03:44] ok Sleep for atleast 5 hours, night all [03:44] *wave* [03:44] night [04:17] PriceChild: issued a ban of Cower for telling someone to rm -rf /etc and the guy did it. [04:19] k [04:19] PriceChild: theATOM looks to be trouble too.... [04:19] watching === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v LjL] by ChanServ [04:30] ... [04:33] hm [04:33] why isn't ubotu reporting the use of !ops ? [04:34] good question... [04:39] i think as it was just "op" used? [04:46] +1 is getting rowdy [04:47] getting? [04:47] rowdy(er) [04:48] stdin: I'm guessing your dont have ops in +1 either [04:48] s/your/you [04:48] nope [04:48] just on #k [04:49] hmmmh [04:49] didn't we ban wii from, well, everywhere? [04:50] yes [04:50] with k-line === wii [n=wii@AMarigot-102-1-13-24.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-ops [04:50] lol [04:51] He was klined? [04:51] yes [04:51] !staff [04:51] Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :) [04:52] Amaranth: yes? [04:52] wii is back [04:52] lol [04:52] ive been a bad boy :( [04:53] this time i didnt do nothing i swear [04:53] i just say someone need help and he banned me [04:54] This isn't even the right channel to dispute that [04:54] oh?where should i go? [04:55] Nowhere [04:55] shhh this su*** [04:56] Amaranth: talk with um, gnomefreak I think too [04:56] Tm_T: how much time i got left? [04:57] what time? [04:57] banned time? [04:57] who knows [04:57] wii: However much time you had before, add 48 hours [04:58] Amaranth: may I ask what and where happened this time? [04:58] Tm_T: He was being a moron in #compiz-fusion [04:58] Like I said, not related to here at all [04:58] haha [04:58] Amaranth: no no wa hapen in compiz doesnt counts [04:59] wii: really? [04:59] wii: No but you came here, annoyed us, and asked how long you had left === Tm_T needs to wake up [04:59] and your conduct on other channels does, in fact, reflect on you [04:59] Tm_T: stop playing u know compiz is not family by blood whit the unbunts [05:00] what about the ubunuts? [05:00] Pici: I'm your nuts [05:00] o.O [05:00] lol [05:00] hahahaha [05:00] wii: IMO all you do in freenode counts [05:00] u guys are just nasty [05:00] Tm_T: [05:00] wii: after your kline atleast [05:01] that aint fear [05:01] Amaranth: i didnt do nothing that bad how can u add 48hours? [05:01] wii: You're making it worse [05:01] can I add in a few hours too? [05:02] Ante up everyone. [05:02] I say +1 hour for every word from now on [05:02] jdong: do u want me to*********** [05:02] :D [05:02] infinity hours + a few hours = ? [05:02] stdin: my boy my compadrey my friend and only [05:02] jrib: take the derivative of the numerator and denominator.... [05:03] ;-) [05:03] lol [05:03] whitout wii you all ops will be board to death :D [05:04] long live xp_killer [05:04] :D [05:04] nalioth: Can you get rid of this guy? You're the only one here with access [05:04] and garfield and wii and newbi [05:04] lol [05:04] i'm sorry [05:04] ok just tell me how much time i have left [05:05] no youre not, you have shown that well enough [05:05] for the ubuntus [05:05] wii: Forever, you are not getting unbanned [05:05] wii: sideways 8 [05:05] wii: if you ask from me, its several years to infinity [05:05] evasion time then [05:05] kline time them [05:05] [05:05] evasion = network ban, go ahead [05:05] Tm_T: i had never like u anyways [05:06] >_< === mneptok hears a lone coyote in the distance [05:07] stdin: i got 3 internet conection in my house can u stop me? [05:07] mneptok: [05:07] mneptok: alor ca va mon pot? [05:07] ca roule? [05:07] toujours === jdong sets mode [+b *!*@*.fr] on #ubuntu-ops [05:08] bon ben jyvai la [05:08] bye bye [05:08] a bientot. === wii [n=wii@AMarigot-102-1-13-24.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Konversation] === Pici sets mode +idiot on wii [05:09] Pici: please do not duplicate the efforts of others === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Burgundavia_] by ChanServ [05:09] lol [05:12] hgave *YOU* been cheese nachos? [05:12] -g [05:12] remember, we don't football sex bowling until you pizza. [05:13] grr you people makin me hungry. [05:13] jdong: http://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/10/09/ad-wizards-the-manliest-most-honest-commercial-ever-made/ === rob looks in [05:17] rob: could something be done about removing "wii" from Freenode? [05:17] he's now in -desktop [05:17] he has openly stated he's going to avaid bans and k: g: attempts [05:17] yeah, I think he actually is currently [05:17] (does Freenode have a g:?) [05:18] no, we have global k lines [05:18] roit. [05:18] 23:16 -!- wii [n=wii@AMarigot-102-1-13-24.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [K-lined] [05:19] i felt a disturbance in The Force. as if suddenly, somehow, the aggregate IQ of this network took a sharp upturn. [05:19] thanks, I try to keep it on the up. [05:20] mneptok: hah, like that'll last through release day ;-) [05:21] heheheh === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+b %wii!*@*] by nalioth === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:53] MasterShrek called the ops in #ubuntu [05:55] all good, just a paster === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tonyyarusso] by ChanServ === tonyyarusso wonders when Hobbsee will be around [06:06] @now sydney [06:06] Current time in Australia/Sydney: October 12 2007, 14:06:27 - Next meeting: Kernel Team in 4 days === maxamillion [n=adam@166.128.33.130] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === elkbuntu [i=melissa@210.1.205.111] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v elkbuntu] by ChanServ [08:07] hi elkbuntu [08:07] hi [08:08] elkbuntu: what should I do when hobbsee is bullying me? [08:08] my adsl needs to hurry the heck up... i broke my dialup networking by setting the router up :( [08:08] Tm_T, bully her back :P [08:08] I wont [08:09] its not nice [08:09] 1738 <+Hobbsee> Tm_T: a moron [08:09] see? [08:09] that one line? [08:09] yes [08:09] isnt that enough?! [08:10] Tm_T: that isnt bullying.... you should have seen what happened when someon called her a jerk.... [08:10] i've seen you say similar stuff about other people and gary [08:10] well, maybe thats slightly out of context but still [08:11] d'oh, gary isnt here to react :( [08:11] haha [08:11] elkbuntu: to be honest, I was just joking =) [08:11] elkbuntu: that was answer to 1738 <+Tm_T> who is this Aoirthoir guy anyway? [08:11] it was just perfect quote =) [08:11] Tm_T, i knew you were joking :P [08:12] bah [08:12] aoirthoir is a professional PITA [08:12] I notice =) [08:12] I just wonder where he pulls all his motivation [08:12] a chemical imbalance in his brain [08:13] you mean drugs? [08:13] no, something a little more permanant [08:13] he's just plain messed up [08:13] ah, I see, perhaps we need to hit again with axe, you know, may fix it [08:14] it won't cure him, but it'll certainly fix our problem [08:16] so who's volunteering to wave a magic wand and un-break my network :-/ === jussi01 waves said magic wand.... [08:17] didnt work :( [08:17] d'oh!! [08:17] i seriously dont know wtf happened [08:17] what are the symptoms? [08:17] jussi01, lack of computers seeing each other [08:18] awww crap.. it's all windy out... i'm going to have another night of illegal arachnid migrants :( [08:18] elkbuntu: ahhh... wel thats an issue... but they all connect to the net? [08:18] jussi01, no, i'm irc'ing from windows :( :( :( :( :( [08:18] elkbuntu: good luck with the arachnids... we got first snow of the year here... [08:19] (today) [08:19] jussi01, all i did was unplug 'puters from switch, plug into router, set up router, adsl didnt work, unplug from router, plug back into switch... no communication [08:19] damn... [08:19] (windows pc is sharing dialup conn with ubuntu laptop) [08:20] ouch... dial up??? [08:20] so what i'm figuring is that the router has messed up the leases [08:20] jussi01, waiting for dsl2... it will be like crack [08:20] elkbuntu: Yeah, sounds like a horror story [08:20] the connection sharing was working all fine ootb until i did this === jussi01 rubs in the fact that he has a working 10/10 connection... [08:21] jussi01, i'm less than a k from the adsl2 exchange, around 450m in distance, about 800m cable [08:21] elkbuntu: Im assuming have you have done a hard reset of the router? [08:22] jussi01, sure, but the router is no longer a part of the equation [08:22] and the dsl isnt due until late next week [08:22] elkbuntu: oh... right... ummm [08:23] elkbuntu: ok heres the thing.... go to neighbors... say: you have wireless! here is a $20 can I borrow for a week? :) [08:23] jussi01, im suspecting it was/is legacy leases, the computers thinking they're on the dlink's 10.1.1.x dhpc leaces rather than the 192.168.0.x default dhcp leases [08:23] jussi01, already done sniffing, no unsecured private wireless within range [08:24] elkbuntu: ahh, that could make sense. Isnt there some history type file for that sort of stuff somewhere? [08:24] jussi01, im not a network engineer, i have no clue [08:25] remind me of the stupid dos cmd to see the computer network details (ie ip?) [08:26] elkbuntu: ifconfig [08:27] elkbuntu: hmmm... maybe /etc/networks has something? [08:27] on the windows machine... hence 'dos' [08:27] oh...ooops [08:27] ipconfig [08:27] iirc [08:28] windows gateway because it's so important to have DIALUP modems proprietary with no linux drivers.. they're suuuuuch a revenue asset...... [08:28] lol [08:29] actually, i could get em to work, just not get a connection [08:29] elkbuntu: DOS? [08:29] or Windows*? [08:30] DOS had no TCP/IP. [08:30] you used Trumpet or another stack [08:30] mneptok, whatever comes up when you run cmd [08:30] i know sweet f a about windows [08:30] netsh interface ip show config [08:31] the windows machine is 192.168.0.1 as it should be... the problem is on the ubuntu side [08:31] it's stuck at 10.1.1.2 [08:33] sudo dhclient eth0 [08:33] (or whatever) === elkbuntu hugs mneptok lots [08:34] YAY! [08:34] brb === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v elkbuntu] by ChanServ [08:35] boi-oi-oi-oing [08:35] i can has email!!!!!!!!!! [08:35] all 600 pieces === elkbuntu hugs mneptok again === Seeker` [n=cjo20@unaffiliated/seeker/x-838755] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:42] wtf... my garbage bin has disappeared [08:47] elkbuntu: done with job training yet? [08:48] tonyyarusso, no, another 2 weeks yet, and i've been told i cant take leave at the end of november to do a conf talk i accepted like 2 months ago, so i'm pretty pissed off about it [08:48] elkbuntu: wow, that sucks [08:48] yeah [08:48] In happier news, _my_ boss gave me (American) Thanksgiving weekend off so I'm flying out to Canada to see my Trent friends. [08:49] nice [08:49] I've actually been exceedingly happy with my boss/managers at this job compared to the last two, particularly with scheduling. [08:50] The other ones you'd tell them you needed a particular day off, they'd say it was fine, and then when they published the schedule you'd be on it anyway. [08:50] However, I'm the sort of employee who holds people to their word on scheduling, so if I was feeling nice I'd point it out to them. If I don't show up because you can't do your own job, nottamyproblem === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Madpilot] by ChanServ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ [09:53] timfrost, people? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-ops.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Topic for #ubuntu-ops: Welcome to the home of the operators of all Ubuntu (and derivatives) channels | This channel is for operator/abuse questions only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | IRC team info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | The IRC council reserves the right to remove idlers from the channel === Topic (#ubuntu-ops): set by Mez at Sun Sep 30 18:13:35 2007 [11:58] (Amaranth/#ubuntu-ops) aww now we're being logged again :P [12:16] since when was this wretched hive of scum and villainy publicly logged? === Seeker` [n=cjo20@unaffiliated/seeker/x-838755] has joined #ubuntu-ops === rob [i=rob@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v rob] by ChanServ === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ [01:50] Pici called the ops in #ubuntu [01:50] IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu [01:53] Amaranth, just kick the bot [01:53] Mez: I don't have access :P === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o Mez] by ChanServ [01:54] ah so you dont === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o Mez] by ChanServ === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jrib] by ChanServ [02:36] log bots? === dgjones [n=Cheshire@unaffiliated/dgjones] has joined #ubuntu-ops === maxamillion [n=adam@ss-5-55.shsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ [03:04] is it ~/.bash_login that performs things only one on startup ? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ [03:15] hey Seveas, i've got a job for you === dgjones [n=Cheshire@unaffiliated/dgjones] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Bye"] === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-110.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Seeker` [n=cjo20@unaffiliated/seeker/x-838755] has joined #ubuntu-ops [04:04] nalioth: bash_login and bash_profile is only sourced when bash is run with --login, either via a login prompt or some terminal emulators do start bash with --login.... so YMMV [04:09] would it make sense to have the gutsy release date in the topic of #ubuntu+1? [04:10] Probably. === jussi01 is about to kill people... [04:22] Ooh, which ones? [04:22] jussi01: whats wrong? [04:22] the internet provider ones... [04:22] jussi01: "Sir, you need to power cycle the modem" [04:23] jussi01: "I cannot click the green NEXT button until the system indicates you've rebooted your equipment" [04:23] jdong: no, more like: I had 10/10 connection and the fuckers decided to make it 5/3... :( [04:23] :O why? [04:23] Seeker`: little company got bought out by big crappy company... [04:24] jussi01: ow that blows [04:24] :( === Seeker` has a 14mb upload and 1mb download [04:24] woops, wrong way round === jdong has a 100mb upload and 100mb download [04:25] ;-) === jussi01 slaps jdong with a dead fish [04:25] until I find a gigabit jack === jussi01 goes to do other stuff [04:26] jdong: what do you actually do with that? [04:27] Seeker`: check my e-mail, download stuff.... [04:27] what you do with it :) [04:28] i mean how can you utilize 100mb? [04:28] my connection is mostly idle [04:28] Seeker`: I do not... well very rarely [04:28] seeding Ubuntu torrents aside, I rarely max out my connection [04:29] heh [04:29] meh, university-provided connection; I won't complain [04:30] my uni has throttled connections to 10mb [04:30] aww [04:30] because people were saturating the network with p2p [04:30] apparently MIT has bought more bandwidth than like all the new england academic institutions combined [04:31] Thats because they are MIT === maxamillion [n=adam@ss-5-55.shsu.edu] has left #ubuntu-ops [] === TheSheep_ [i=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:26] Locked my keys inside my room today grr :/ [05:34] PriceChild: :( === yoman_80 [n=are@89-138-16-192.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-ops === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-ops === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-ops === nealmcb [n=neal@ubuntu/member/nealmcb] has joined #ubuntu-ops === jpatrick [n=patrick@65.Red-88-14-79.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [07:11] OK, I was just bold and tried to clarify "public away" messages at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines Please review.... Or I'll revert if that was too bold... [07:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines?action=diff [07:12] *reads the first line of that page and growls quietly* [07:13] yeah - I have come to repent my sins [07:14] You've seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelinesProposed by aoirithoir (sp?) btw nealmcb? [07:15] I always took Ward Cunningham's advice about wikis ("be bold") to heart, but may have to learn new approaches here.... [07:15] PriceChild: Whens the next IrcCouncil meeting? [07:16] Monday 17th September at 12 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting. [07:16] PriceChild: Yes, thats what the page says. [07:16] PriceChild: thanks for the link - interesting.... [07:16] oh wait that says september [07:16] Yes. [07:16] sorry pici :) [07:16] Which is why I asked ;) [07:16] "tba" 8-) [07:17] *ping* Seveas nalioth LjL [07:17] I think some ideas for cleaning up our wiki pages should be discussed. [07:17] Of course. [07:18] so again, I'll revert if you like. Of course I do think my change will help newbies and does not change the rules, just makes them clearer, but I respect your process... === coreymon77 [n=chatzill@ubuntu/member/coreymon77] has joined #ubuntu-ops [07:18] imo, you should revert, but the decision is really up to PriceChild, since hes the only active Council member. [07:18] (I reverted it nealmcb ;) ) [07:18] Nevermind then ;) [07:18] coreymon77, hello, can I help you? [07:19] OK. I'll look at the proposed ones === coreymon77 [n=chatzill@ubuntu/member/coreymon77] has left #ubuntu-ops [] [07:19] nealmcb, I'm really not against changes to guidelines... but when they are active, and have been approved and are in place etc. random people just can't randomly change *the copy* to propose... [07:22] That page should stay as the current guidelines. Talk/propositions should go somewhere else, then put forward to the council at meetings etc. [07:24] nealmcb: I know where to find you, I'll drop you a note when the next council meeting is scheduled :) [07:24] FWIW, nealmcb has been doing some IRC documentation herding to help out newer users [07:25] Good :) We need that. === pleia2 nods [07:25] PriceChild: fyi, yoman is back in here. [07:25] I have a feeling its a logging bot, no particular reason though,. [07:26] yoman_80, can we help? === nealmcb [n=neal@ubuntu/member/nealmcb] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Thanks] === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v ompaul] by ChanServ === nealmcb [n=neal@ubuntu/member/nealmcb] has joined #ubuntu-ops [07:51] One other note. I changed the page a minute or two before asking for feedback on it so it would be easier to ask for feedback - the diff mechanism is so nice. And I did sort of think that was in keeping with the text: "Do not edit this page without discussing any changes with the Ubuntu IRC council who maintain this page." You might want to add "first" before "discussing" to head off bold eager beavers like me..... [07:52] nealmcb, so I presume you changed it back then [07:52] [or describe another easy way to give feedback] . [07:52] you can put in comments with ## on each line [07:52] ompaul: PriceChild changed it back [07:52] and then ask someone to review the "source" [07:53] well they have to the CC agreed the guidelines [07:53] ompaul: interesting. Perhaps that should be documented? I think it would help. [07:53] I did just notice the conversation in there with # comments.... [07:55] heh [07:55] someone who should leave it alone but won't you mean ... [07:55] those comments should be ripped out [07:55] PriceChild, ^^ care to fix that too . it is a bit of a distraction [07:56] I think an explicit link to a "discuss" page (like wikipedia does) would help. [07:57] and be better than the comment option.... === TheSheep_ is now known as TheSheep === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v TheSheep] by ChanServ [08:02] well there is actually the irc list which is the correct place when I think about it [08:05] ompaul: well, my sense is that asking folks to join a mailing list to suggest simple wording changes to a wiki page is ironic overkill :-) [08:05] nealmcb, no, in some cases the page would be better if it was static [08:05] and being on a wiki there is always a risk [08:05] etc [08:07] I'm suggesting using a (new) wiki page for discussion. moving the official policy off the wiki might also make sense, or using the admin restrictions that moinmoin offers. The latter would also encourage us to figure out how to link launchpad teams and wiki permissions :-) === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-110.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === jdong [n=dizzle@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-ops === nealmcb [n=neal@ubuntu/member/nealmcb] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Thanks] [08:17] ompaul: I suggested sticking the proposed edits on the IrcCouncil Agenda. [08:18] Pici, makes sense [08:18] Except the next date is TBD from what PriceChild tells me. === Seeker` [n=cjo20@unaffiliated/seeker/x-838755] has joined #ubuntu-ops === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ === silent [n=silent@S01060050bac94b86.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:46] silent: How can we help you? [08:47] oh, I'm just idling. registering my nick [08:49] righto [08:50] Pici, get ready to shout about digdugz I have to go for dinner [08:51] hes already pm-ing me [08:52] And I dont have time to argue about whatever hes babbling about. === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === Seeker` [n=cjo20@unaffiliated/seeker/x-838755] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o Seveas] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-110.psoas.suomi.net] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o Seveas] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === yoman_80 [n=are@89-138-16-192.bb.netvision.net.il] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o Seveas] by ChanServ === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-ops [09:34] ompaul: I'm stepping afk, I personally dont think andeh needs any more warnings. [09:35] I'm not around for an hour or so sorry. [09:35] I'm here [09:38] or maybe i am [09:38] *looks back* [09:38] There are comments on that page? thought they were gone. *looks* [09:49] ompaul, ^ [09:49] PriceChild, there were last night [09:49] ah ok [09:49] well all gone now :) [09:49] :) [09:52] nanonyme called the ops in #ubuntu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-110.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === qmario_ [n=QMario@c-98-200-244-80.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu-ops === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Seveas] by ChanServ [09:53] silent[ca] called the ops in #ubuntu [09:53] what? this is fun... === silent[ca] [n=silent[c@S01060050bac94b86.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [09:55] jussi01, what are you doing in here? [09:56] Seveas: ?? [09:56] jussi01, this channel is for ops discussions, not for lurking [09:57] Seveas: I understand. I am an op in #ubuntustudio . Even though it is not part of the IRC Councils thing, I was of the understanding i was welcome to "reside" in here. [09:57] ah [09:57] sorry for kicking then, didn't know === nanonyme [n=siylioll@pdpc/supporter/active/nanonyme] has joined #ubuntu-ops [09:58] Seveas: no probs :) === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jussi01] by ChanServ [09:58] Seveas: thank you :) [09:59] is odd.... *watches* [09:59] hi, came in to talk about that recent attack on #ubuntu: it could easily be prevented if you had some bot with ops that changes nick every now and then and catches 'DCC received CTCP SEND with invalid parameters from _Resists' -> kickbans the user [09:59] or at least the effect would be lessened [09:59] yes I also observed that attack [09:59] was helping some one with dhcp [10:00] nanonyme, no, that does not work [10:00] hmm? [10:00] I got excess flood because I have a script that does that [10:00] nanonyme, anyone doing that attack on the network get k-lined... what's a channel ban *after they've exploited* going to help? [10:00] *gets [10:01] pricechild, if the bot has a name as one of the first in alphabet, it's likely that they'll ctcp send it first. if the violator is removed then, there's a chance he won't be able to finish the job [10:02] nanonyme, they ctcp the channel, not individuals. [10:04] exploit via ctcp *while* doing it in a way that makes the rest of us excess flood... nice. [10:04] i guess the only way to prevent it is another hack from freenode staff then. ah, too bad. i guess i'll continue on #freenode. thanks for the time [10:04] LjL, :) [10:05] nanonyme, the actual attack didn't cause many victims [10:05] or if anyone happens to know a channel to contact freenode devs? [10:05] what caused most is that people *replied* to the many ctcps, which caused excess floods [10:05] that is, a violation of irc rfc and removal of ctcp for channels should be fine [10:06] (or ctcp rfc or wherever the functionality is defined) [10:07] anyway, i'll try to find the proper channel. thanks === nanonyme [n=siylioll@pdpc/supporter/active/nanonyme] has left #ubuntu-ops [] [10:07] like +C but for channels [10:07] i guess that could be implemented, for symmetry if nothing else [10:09]