[12:05] <manpreet> hi
[12:05] <manpreet> guys
[12:05] <manpreet> im using minicom to connect to my nokia n73
[12:05] <oliver_g1> DM|: I suppose the uid option is not allowed there, but if Ubuntu doesn't mount the disk automatically correct _and_ you can't fix it there manually, it's a bug...
[12:05] <manpreet> i can make calls but thats about it
[12:05] <manpreet> how do i view my phone book, etc
[12:05] <DM|> oliver_g1 super
[12:05] <musashi> USMarine, it wont let me open menu.lst in terminal
[12:05] <manpreet> any thoughts
[12:06] <DM|> oliver_g1 ill try it on my feisty box, hold on
[12:06] <haru> nickrud, any ideas?
[12:06] <DM|> oliver_g1 oh snap, uid=0 fixed it
[12:06] <pvl1> is there a file explorer that can show authors of music files?
[12:06] <DM|> oliver_g1 no wait, cancel that
[12:06] <nickrud> haru: that's really odd that an ubuntu repo would do that. Could be a corrupt download. You've tried more than once, I hope (not)?
[12:06] <pvl1> er file manager
[12:06] <haru> nickrud, yes
[12:06] <progrock`> how many primary partitions can a HD have?
[12:07] <USMarine> pvl1: amarok
[12:07] <manpreet> hi
[12:07] <DM|> oliver_g1 lol no just icons didnt load
[12:07] <pvl1> USMarine: ty
[12:07] <USMarine> progrock`: primary 4, extended many
[12:07] <oliver_g1> DM|: ?
[12:07] <haru> nickrud, do u have any ideas where aptitude saves package.gz files it download
[12:07] <manpreet> i am connecting to my nokia n73 using minicom
[12:07] <nickrud> haru: security is the only one that does that? If so, it's probably a problem at the other end
[12:07] <manpreet> i can make calls but thats about it
[12:07] <haru> nickrud, works fine on another system i have
[12:07] <nickrud> haru: /var/lib/apt/lists
[12:07] <musashi> USMarine, do you have any idea why im getting a "cannot open display:" when trying to open gedit in terminal?
[12:07] <manpreet> how do i view my phone book etc
[12:08] <endo> is there anyway that I can get rid of the login screen on bootup?
[12:08] <USMarine> musashi: you're opening it with a root account
[12:08] <musashi> USMarine, it was working fine just a minute ago... i logged on as myself
[12:08] <f0rgivme`> any way I can transfer files to my mp3(zen micro photo) from linux? :x
[12:08] <manpreet> anybody?
[12:09] <LiMaO> endo: i think there is a way, wait a second and i'll try to find you a link
[12:09] <musashi> nvmit worked when i closed/reopened the terminal
[12:09] <haru> nickrud, see.. now deleting everything there fixes it
[12:09] <Iceshadow> i talked with someone in here last night about authenticating an ubuntu workstation against an Active Directory inside a microsoft network. would that person a.) remember, and b.) be around this evening?
[12:09] <f0rgivme`> anyone?
[12:09] <DM|> oliver_g1 uids only go in numbers, gonna put 777 in there see if that does it
[12:09] <nickrud> haru: I'll remember that, thanks for the update
[12:10] <f0rgivme`> is it possible to transfer files to my mp3 player from ubuntu?
[12:10] <ruz322> Iceshadow: I'm not tha person, but ive done it before
[12:10] <progrock`> f0rgivme`: of course
[12:10] <oliver_g1> DM|: no, i guess it must be your user id
[12:10] <f0rgivme`> progrock`,  how? :x
[12:10] <haru> :) ty you too . was looking for the answer since a few weeks now
[12:10] <haru> for*
[12:10] <TokenBad> nickrud, I am on the ati website and I don't see a 40.4
[12:10] <f0rgivme`> progrock`,  it doesn't detect my zen
[12:10] <Iceshadow> ruz322: i've got some questions after talking with one of the admins here. Is kerberos an active function of authentication in AD, or something they have to add?
[12:10] <progrock`> f0rgivme`: just plug it in, almsot all of them should show up automatically
[12:10] <LiMaO> endo: go to System > Administration > Login Window and check out the Security tab
[12:10] <oliver_g1> DM|: maybe try uid=1000
[12:11] <nickrud> TokenBad: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[12:11] <progrock`> Does gnome or kde have better tablet functionality?
[12:11] <nickagian> join #gr-ubuntu
[12:11] <ruz322> Iceshadow: what do you mean? are you asking if microsoft uses it to implement active directory?
[12:11] <f0rgivme`> progrock`,  it doesn't tho:\
[12:11] <DM|> oliver_g1 did
[12:11] <DM|> oliver_g1 no success
[12:11] <manpreet> any ideas about minicom pleese
[12:11] <Iceshadow> ruz322: AD authentication
[12:12] <DM|> oliver_g1 whats the number u use when chmod'ing something to give everyone access to it
[12:12] <oliver_g1> DM|: DM|: I think 777 should do it
[12:12] <endo> LiMaO: thanks so much man :D
[12:12] <oliver_g1> DM|: but I'm not sure if it should go after the uid= part
[12:12] <oliver_g1> DM|: maybe "man mount" (the section about vfat) can tell you more
[12:12] <DM|> oliver_g1 im trying uid=777
[12:12] <ruz322> Iceshadow: AD is active directory....
[12:13] <ruz322> Iceshadow: so what are you asking me? lol i'm not picking up your question
[12:13] <oliver_g1> DM|: anyway I have to leave now (it's late here already) :-/
[12:13] <LiMaO> endo: you're welcome =)
[12:13] <sivik> hey all
[12:14] <pike_> DM|: you yourgroup others   so ---------  each --- and --- and --- its binary so --- is 0 and --1 is one -1- is two 111 is 7
[12:14] <Iceshadow> the admin, which probably doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground, tells me that they have to "enable" kerberos on the active directory. However, documentation i'm reading says that's HOW active directory handles authentication.
[12:14] <nickrud> doh, my brain really isn't working, the containing directory was immutable
[12:14] <sivik> how do i create a menu inside of blackbox
[12:14] <IrishDave> hey, can someone recommend me a media center program for use? I want to be able to access files on a samba share (movies and tv episodes) along with music and pictures, i'm not too worried about getting tv to work
[12:14] <Iceshadow> and all i need to do is install ldap/kerberos on Ubuntu, configure it, and i'm set.
[12:14] <endo> anyone in here use Frostwire? why can I not type anything when I goto search?
[12:15] <ruz322> Iceshadow: well your right about the admin, he is a dumb ass, kerberos is an open source alternative used to connect to AD environments, there is nothing to be done on the server side, it all works with microsoft stuff
[12:15] <pike_> endo: you using sun java?
[12:15] <endo> yeah
[12:15] <ChaosParser> IrishDave: http://linuxmce.com/
[12:15] <unagi> disable desktop effects endo
[12:15] <ruz322> Iceshadow: you dont have to change anything on the server to allow ubuntu machines to cnnect
[12:15] <Iceshadow> ruz322: that's what i thought. So this will be as simple as setting LDAP/Kerberos up on this workstation, configure it to this network, and i'm good to go.
[12:15] <SaSo> i need the iphone room
[12:15] <IrishDave> ChaosParser: I have been looking at it but is it not hard to set up?
[12:15] <endo> it takes me having to disable my desktop effects to be able to run forstwire proporly? that is lame
[12:15] <pike_> endo: dunno i use amule or torrent mostly but ive setup frost and lime for friends. whenever one gives me trouble i just use the other ;p
[12:16] <ruz322> Iceshadow: exactly, i would make sure you know all your network settings though, you'll need them to connect
[12:16] <marcelo> hello, who use ubuntu gusty?
[12:16] <ompaul> !gutsy
[12:16] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[12:16] <pike_> marcelo: /join #ubuntu+1
[12:16] <unagi> then dont use frost or limewire endo
[12:16] <marcelo> ok
[12:16] <Iceshadow> ruz322: got em all already. I just wanted to make sure i'm on the same page as the documentation, the sysadmins threw me for a loop earlier when i brought this up.
[12:16] <Striker21> hey, quick question
[12:16] <stinger05> how can i stop the X server in ubuntu terminal ???
[12:16] <pike_> stinger05: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:16] <PriceChild> stinger05, sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[12:16] <pike_> stinger05: is one way
[12:16] <Striker21> can Ubuntu run the latest pc games?
[12:17] <ruz322> Iceshadow: yea, ignore those windows junkies, they dont know what they are talking about, maybe you can convince them to dump those windows servers in the process! :)
[12:17] <sivik> Striker21: possible with cedega or wine
[12:17] <PriceChild> Striker21, depends if they have linux clients or not.
[12:17] <Iceshadow> ruz322: good luck with them having a MS contract and 7000 win clients.
[12:17] <endo> what else would you recommend?
[12:17] <pike_> stinger05: often yes often no. linux has its own games also. some are pretty good
[12:17] <Iceshadow> ruz322: lol
[12:17] <PriceChild> Striker21, you will get variable success with things like cedega or wine
[12:17] <unagi> i haven't been able to completely get rid of windows because windows runs some things linux doesnt =/
[12:17] <ruz322> Iceshadow: yea, thats true
[12:17] <sivik> anyone here use blackbox?
[12:17] <Striker21> would you say most games today have linux support (or will in the future)?
[12:17] <musashi> im getting an error, gsynaptics couldnt initialize. i have to set SH<Config 'true' in xorg.conf to use it.  how do i do that?
[12:17] <musashi> SHMConfig*
[12:17] <ruz322> Striker21: No and I doubt it
[12:17] <Iceshadow> ruz322: but, i silently spread the dark side inside the office here, and hope it contaminates the rest of the general pop. :)
[12:18] <ruz322> Iceshadow: that's great
[12:18] <Striker21> thanks
[12:18] <Meroigo> I'm getting two SyncMaster 997DF 19" monitors soon. Are they 100% compatible with ubuntu? =P...
[12:18] <pike_> stinger05: in future more will. today any id game like doom or whatnot has linux native support. there are free games also like tremulous
[12:18] <stinger05> i tried that command to stop the X server, but the video driver i want to install keeps on telling me that it's running :S:S
[12:18] <sivik> stinger05, run a ps aux | grep xserver and see if one is still running
[12:19] <unagi> Striker21: take it from a gamer....dual boot
[12:19] <sivik> stinger05, and then you can stop it with sudo kill #
[12:19] <sivik> unagi: it really depends on the games buddy
[12:19] <sivik> unagi: some of them run better with wine/cedega then they do in windows
[12:19] <stinger05> whats the commands to kill both ?
[12:19] <unagi> SOME of them
[12:19] <pike_> Striker21: if youre a gamer today either dualboot or get a console. me i play tremulous sometimes and im happy
[12:19] <Striker21> figured, I've been using a dell so I never had to buy Windows. I just ordered a barebones kit and a bunch of stuff. No OS though and I'm a bit tight on cash
[12:19] <unagi> doesnt change my answer
[12:20] <TokenBad> nickrud, thanks but thats for 64bit or seems it is
[12:20] <sivik> unagi: i know, i was just saying
[12:20] <jdq997> Guys I have a request.  I just ran a bunch of searches and could not find the Dapper login and logoff sound files.
[12:20] <sivik> stinger05, just run sudo kill xserver and it should kill them all
[12:20] <jdq997> Does anyone have this on hand?
[12:20] <sivik> jdq997, why are you running dapper?
[12:20] <stinger05> ok thats what i wanted :D
[12:20] <stinger05> thx dude :))
[12:20] <sivik> stinger05, yw
[12:20] <jdq997> I am not running dapper
[12:21] <sivik> jdq997, then why are you trying to find something for dapper?
[12:21] <jdq997> I like the login sound effects, and would like to use them
[12:21] <nickrud> TokenBad: it made 386 debs for me
[12:21] <sivik> jdq997, have you tried google?
[12:21] <TokenBad> really..ok will try it
[12:21] <arpeggi> hey guys
[12:21] <LiveJazz> hey
[12:21] <sivik> hi arpeggi
[12:21] <arpeggi> is this the right place for tech support?
[12:21] <arpeggi> well not really tech support
[12:21] <sivik> arpeggi, something like that
[12:21] <sivik> arpeggi, this is a help channel
[12:22] <arpeggi> just teething problems :)
[12:22] <sivik> arpeggi, what is the problem
[12:22] <pike_> arpeggi: if its ubuntu related questions yeah
[12:22] <sivik> arpeggi, just ask it
[12:22] <arpeggi> awesome
[12:22] <arpeggi> im running the livecd atm
[12:22] <sivik> arpeggi, ok
[12:22] <arpeggi> but in safe graphics mode
[12:22] <sivik> arpeggi, whats the problem?
[12:22] <nickrud> TokenBad: I got sidetracked by the immutable directory problem, I'll catch up now
[12:22] <arpeggi> im trying to install graphics diver
[12:22] <arpeggi> s
[12:22] <sivik> arpeggi, that is going to be difficult with a livecd
[12:22] <jdq997> sivik, I did yes.  I was hoping that someone here might have the files and could shoot them in my direction.
[12:22] <arpeggi> maybe thats my problem
[12:23] <pike_> wait.. we have a safe graphics mode? what is that vesa?
[12:23] <arpeggi> yeah
[12:23] <sivik> pike_, yes
[12:23] <TokenBad> nickrud, well in ubuntu
[12:23] <TokenBad> crap
[12:23] <musashi> how do i install mysql?
[12:23] <arpeggi> im trying to use envy
[12:23] <sivik> musashi: it should be simple, aptitude (apt-get) install mysql
[12:23] <TokenBad> in ubuntu+1 they say it don't use the one drivers...just the open source one
[12:23] <sivik> or you can search for it with symaptic (or however you spell it)
[12:24] <pike_> arpeggi: most here will recommend you not use envy anymore. the restricted manager is used most often now though ive never tried either
[12:24] <arpeggi> whats the restricted manager?
[12:24] <musashi> it keeps giving me an error
[12:24] <musashi> broken packages
[12:24] <musashi> or something
[12:24] <unagi> musashi does it say that the package cant be found?
[12:24] <sivik> musashi: there should be a -f command it says to run at the bottom
[12:24] <arpeggi> oh i've found the restricted drivers manager
[12:25] <sivik> arpeggi, but you can't install anything on the live cd
[12:25] <musashi> it just says E: Broken packages
[12:25] <pike_> arpeggi: yeah i dont know gnome very well
[12:25] <danroj> hi
[12:25] <sivik> musashi, use pastebin and past the error,, that will help us more
[12:25] <pike_> arpeggi: the livecd will be a good test to how itll work once installed though. if it works in livecd it should on hd and youll already know how to do it
[12:26] <arpeggi> so i can install drivers with the livecd version
[12:26] <lufis> What's the gui kernel config app?
[12:26] <musashi> i would if i knew how ;_;
[12:26] <pike_> arpeggi: yeah its just like hd isntall only you lose everything after reboot
[12:26] <Striker21> Looked up cdega
[12:27] <Striker21> how much success have you had with it/
[12:27] <Pie-rate> I want to install the latest FGLRX (or open-source, if they support 3d acceleration well now) driver for my laptop's ATI Radeon xpress 1100 IGP. i can't find a download for that specific model on AMD/ATI's website, does anyone know how to do this?
[12:27] <lufis> What
[12:27] <Pie-rate> i know its available in the repos, don't !ati me.
[12:27] <arpeggi> im downloading a driver off of the nvidia site
[12:27] <Pie-rate> i want the latest one
[12:27] <pike_> Striker21: wine does about as well these days. its usually a crapshoot
[12:27] <arpeggi> i just dont know how i'll install it
[12:27] <arpeggi> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run
[12:28] <lufis> What's the gui config app for the kernel that you have to compile from the kernel sources? the terminal one is menuconfig
[12:28] <SWAT> does anyone know how I can get un-anti-aliased fonts in my gnome-terminal? Even monospaced is anti-aliased, it's quite annoying
[12:28] <kitche> lufis: xconfig?
[12:28] <jhou> xmenuconfig?
[12:28] <lufis> kitche: Maybe? :) thanks
[12:29] <Avariel> i guess if you run the terminal and go to gconf-editor
[12:29] <kitche> been a while since I even used a gui to compile the kernel well configure the compile
[12:29] <pike_> arpeggi: http://albertomilone.com/latest_nvidia_udsf_feisty.html#METHOD_2
[12:29] <unagi> you mean you want jagged fonts?
[12:29] <kitche> I really hate compiz right now ....
[12:29] <Pie-rate> arpeggi: ok, you can get the drivers from the ubuntu repository, they're usually fairly recent. if you NEED the latest drivers, the way you install them is you kill X by pressing ctrl-alt-f1, log in, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, type chmod 755 NVIDIA-Linux*, answer any questions it has
[12:29] <Pie-rate> arpeggi: after that you want to run nvidia-xconfig
[12:29] <Avariel> hey how do i go to the #emacs channel ? im on feisty fawn and i got the JDEE and JDK but my emacs wont compile ! only my shell will !
[12:29] <Pie-rate> arpeggi: so that it will enable the driver
[12:30] <lufis> jhou: not that one i don't think
[12:30] <SWAT> unagi, just a normal font (like xterm uses)
[12:30] <arpeggi> how do i log back in if i ctrl+shift+f1
[12:30] <pike_> arpeggi: bear in mind if you choose not to use the package but the .run file instead you will need to rerun it when you updates replace your kernel this can happen occationally if you run updates
[12:30] <Avariel> anybody know how to switch channels ? or look for other channels ?
[12:30] <musashi> unagi, actually if i type just apt-get install mysql, yes it does say it cat be found
[12:30] <unagi> ::shrug::
[12:31] <pike_> Avariel: /join #channel
[12:31] <jhou> u sure?
[12:31] <pike_> Avariel: what irc client?
[12:31] <jhou> make xmenuconfig?
[12:31] <Avariel> pike. well im having trouble with emacs
[12:31] <Pie-rate> arpeggi: after you press ctrl-alt-f1 you should have a text login. log in to that
[12:31] <siloko> join the millions :)
[12:31] <pike_> Avariel: ive only touched emacs a few times
[12:31] <lufis> jhou: make[1] : *** No rule to make target `xmenuconfig'.  Stop. make: *** [xmenuconfig]  Error 2
[12:32] <pike_> Avariel: /join #emacs  try there
[12:32] <Avariel> thanks pike, ill try that
[12:32] <Pie-rate> arpeggi: after you log in to that you can type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start if you killed X, or you can hit ctrl-alt-f7 if you haven't killed it yet.
[12:32] <jhou> lufis, u should be in the diercty witht he source
[12:32] <Pie-rate> arpeggi: to get back to your graphical interface
[12:32] <lufis> jhou: ok
[12:32] <jhou> what distro are you using?
[12:32] <arpeggi> ok here goes
[12:32] <ne0v001> mm.
[12:32] <kitche> lufis: you could always look at the makefile and it should tell you in there also
[12:32] <jhou> oh
[12:32] <jhou> we're in ubuntu cahnnel arent we
[12:32] <USMarine> jhou: nop
[12:33] <jhou> hohoho
[12:33] <arpeggi> if i cock up i'll be back shortly
[12:33] <ne0v001> o_o.
[12:33] <Mark7> Where do I go to get help with SIM-IM?
[12:33] <jhou> anyone here use torrentflux?
[12:33] <Tb0n3> ok, well, how would I go about setting device permissions
[12:33] <USMarine> jhou: azureus only
[12:33] <kitche> ? ok I don't want to know what arpeggi meant by that :)
[12:33] <pike_> jhou: what are you looking for in a torrent client?
[12:33] <ne0v001> bitchx is making me miss mirc32... o_o
[12:34] <Chousuke> get irssi :p
[12:34] <musashi> whats the path to xorg.conf?
[12:34] <jhou> well im having trouble setting up the news server NZBperl thingie...and the ppl in the channel are ignoring me
[12:34] <pike_> ne0v001: irssi  bitchx is like using a client from 1997
[12:34] <USMarine> musashi: /etc/X11
[12:34] <ne0v001> pike_: Good point
[12:34] <danroj> bye bye
[12:35] <lufis> Ohhhh, it was "xconfig"
[12:35] <jhou> otherwise torretnflux is really cool though..u gusy shoudl definatley try it
[12:35] <jhou> lol
[12:35] <ne0v001> Eh. I'm still getting used to linux, though.
[12:35] <lufis> :p
[12:35] <ne0v001> Now I have a dualboot winxp/ubuntu laptop
[12:35] <riotkittie> partitions. arrrr.
[12:35] <jhou> vmware workstation...xp ubuntup in aparrellel
[12:35] <jhou> : P
[12:36] <[Seb] > hi i have had ubuntu for some time in the past week i got a belkin router got it all working with a N wireless usb adapter and ubuntu dont see it can any one help
[12:36] <ne0v001> Would it work?
[12:36] <nickrud> I really, really really dislike ati
[12:37] <pike_> jhou: now run qemu on the virtual xp workstation to run linux and wine in the linux in the quemu in vmware to run your windows apps
[12:37] <Mark7> Why does SIM-IM combine the search and add user dialogue?  Whose stupid idea was that?
[12:37] <musashi> USMarine, how do i set 'SHMConfig' 'true'
[12:37] <riotkittie> but ati loves you, nickrud
[12:37] <Jammer> ne0v001, it should work
[12:37] <kitche> ne0v001: mirc works in wine very well
[12:37] <ne0v001> hmmm.
[12:37] <musashi> nvm i think i see it
[12:37] <ne0v001> ok.
[12:37] <nickrud> enough to spend money on my drivers? (me hopes)
[12:37] <astro76> musashi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig
[12:37] <musashi> astro76,  thanks
[12:38] <riotkittie> mirc in wine would be awesome if scripts worked.  :<
[12:38] <musashi> sweet i would have done it right
[12:38] <musashi> thanks astro76
[12:38] <MoTec> irsii ftw ;)
[12:38] <PThomas> Anyone having trouble with kernel.org?
[12:38] <astro76> musashi, you're welcome ;)
[12:39] <cmp5> anyone know why evince 2.20.0 on gutsy would show only a blank window when opening pdfs?
[12:39] <jhou> anyone know where i can get porterhouse steaks online for under 50 bucks?
[12:39] <astro76> PThomas, it appears to be down
[12:39] <PThomas> astro76: darn, only need 2 more packages.
[12:39] <[Seb] > dose any one know were to get drivers for a belkin N wireless usb adapter because i can only get the internet on windows now
[12:39] <Mark7> Is the ad/search function in SIM-IM supposed to be broken?
[12:39] <Moduliz0r> hi
[12:39] <arpeggi> no luck
[12:39] <ne0v001> hrm
[12:39] <jhou> [Seb] , try ndiws wrapper and a windows driver
[12:39] <ne0v001> bitchx made me automaticlly sign onto this server
[12:39] <arpeggi> when i typed the chmod 755 nvidia-Linux*
[12:40] <arpeggi> didnt get anything
[12:40] <ne0v001> what is the server address?
[12:40] <Moduliz0r> I'm in Ubuntu 7.10 Beta, can anyone help me with the restricted drivers manager?
[12:40] <riotkittie> Moduliz0r: #ubuntu+1
[12:40] <MoTec> ne0v001: irc.freenode.net works
[12:40] <ne0v001> ok
[12:40] <ne0v001> thanks
[12:40] <ne0v001> Be right back
[12:40] <Moduliz0r> ok
[12:40] <[Seb] > ok jhow il try
[12:40] <riotkittie> please  and thank you  </delayed politeness>
[12:40] <musashi> yay
[12:40] <musashi> thanks i got it
[12:40] <jhou> whats up with that guy and bitchX
[12:40] <musashi> now i just need mysql
[12:40] <Moduliz0r> it just stopped playing around now anyway ^_^
[12:41] <Ne0v001> mmm.
[12:41] <Ne0v001> Ok.
[12:41] <MoTec> irssi beats bitchx anyway :)
[12:41] <Ne0v001> this feel more natural to chat in :D
[12:41] <heatman> Hello. I keep getting the following error: configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install. I was told that it was due to the fact that I was missing gnome-libs-devel. However, could anyone tell me where i can find it since its not in the repositories.^
[12:42] <Kworth> I added an Video to my OpenOffice Presentation - but it always crashes if I try to open that slide - where can I find the video settings for open office?
[12:42] <musashi> k now its even less of a message when i try to install mysql
[12:42] <Mark7> God, it can't even find me
[12:42] <riotkittie> heatman: would... libgnome-dev work?  :o
[12:42] <[Seb] > how do i get try ndiws wrapper over to my linux installation now without the net
[12:43] <haru> Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Packages ... anyone know a fix
[12:43] <nickrud> !find gnomeConf.sh
[12:43] <heatman> riokittie: no :( i've tried
[12:43] <riotkittie> :(
[12:43] <jhou> [Seb] , etherent cable?
[12:43] <ubotu> Package/file gnomeconf.sh does not exist in feisty
[12:43] <[Seb] > my pc dont have a ethernet port
[12:43] <riotkittie> isnt ndiswrapper included on the live CD?
[12:43] <pike_> [Seb] : you could go to packages.ubuntu.com  make sure you grab dependancies too but i think ndiswrapper may be on your install cd/dvd possibly
[12:44] <[Seb] > ok il have a look
[12:44] <heatman> ubotu: is there a package that replace that?
[12:44] <riotkittie> ubotu is a bot
[12:44] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[12:44] <riotkittie> and it can confirm it. :o
[12:44] <heatman> lol didnt know!
[12:46] <[Seb] > brb checking if ndiswrapper is on the cd
[12:47] <neverblue2> how can you do an ls, only should directories, and not having the / at the end of the directory name (as ls -d */)
[12:47] <neverblue2> s/should/shows/
[12:47] <neverblue2> or possibly a find
[12:49] <karin5482> hello, can someone recommend me on good software to backup systems on network ? (so i can choose folders for backup on each computer on my network)
[12:50] <musashi> got it
[12:50] <musashi> ~~
[12:51] <jhnthn> neverblue2: Maybe pipe that through to something that'll remove anything ending with a /?
[12:52] <jturek> is there a way to get gnome-terminal to work like putty for cut-paste?
[12:52] <jturek> (highlight the word to copy,  and right click to paste)
[12:52] <Xenguy> jturek: you should switch putty to work like X/gnome-terminal ;-)
[12:53] <Kworth> I added an Video to my OpenOffice Presentation - but it always crashes if I try to open that slide - where can I find the video settings for open office?
[12:53] <jturek> Xenguy, well i could middle click to paste, that is fine.. but I want to auto copy on highlight at least :)
[12:53] <Grumpy> im having troubles burning a dvd, any ideas?
[12:53] <bjron> does anyone have a recommendation for a good bit-torrent client?  I'v been pretty unsatisfied with the default one and others I'v tried.
[12:53] <Eminence> (gusty beta) my xorg.conf is configured to use the 'nv' driver, but a lsmod reports that 'nvidia' is loaded.  any idea what's up with this?
[12:54] <Grumpy> im using deluge, its OK enough
[12:54] <Xenguy> jturek: I thought both did the latter actually (supper, TTYL)
[12:54] <Grumpy> my dvd drive doesnt seem to be mounted, or i cant burn anything for some rewason
[12:55] <riotkittie> Eminence: > #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support, please
[12:55] <Iceshadow> ruz322: there is one thing i ran into here that might be a problem. The UNIX servers on the AD server have to be enabled
[12:55] <bjron> Grumpy: is that in the repos? I'm not seeing it.
[12:55] <Iceshadow> ah he's gone
[12:55] <dbe> Grumpy: Whats burning program are you trying to use?
[12:55] <Eminence> riotkittie, thanks.
[12:55] <Grumpy> bjorn, is what in the repositories?
[12:56] <Grumpy> dbe, im trying to use the gnome desktop
[12:56] <dbe> Grumpy: Try K3B.
[12:56] <bjron> Grumpy: deluge
[12:56] <Grumpy> dbe will do
[12:57] <Grumpy> bjorn, i cant rmember if i found deluge in the repos. i might have in multiverse
[12:57] <Grumpy> bjorn, i might have compiled from source.
[12:57] <bjron> Grumpy: oh well, looks like they have the relevant packages on the web anyway.  Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give it a try :)
[12:57] <Odd-rationale> Grumpy: are you trying to make a data or video DVD?
[12:57] <Grumpy> data
[12:58] <Grumpy> it allways told me the disk wasnt big enough
[12:59] <ascarter> !info vim
[12:59] <ubotu> vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0-164+1ubuntu7.2 (feisty), package size 721 kB, installed size 1420 kB
[12:59] <pulseezar> hi, can anyone answer a few questions for me?
[12:59] <casiox> hallo! questioin: is there a way to set up a video-chat server, like a flash media-server with open-source products?
[12:59] <pulseezar> rather A question
[01:00] <USMarine> !ask
[01:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:01] <dbe> casiox: amsn have camera support but the MSN protocol is non-free.
[01:01] <Iceshadow> Ah i have a question. Without Unix Services for Windows enabled on a Windows Server 2003 box, it's not possible to map LDAP authentication against an Ubuntu workstation, true or false?
[01:01] <pulseezar> so to cut a long story short, yesterday  xp totally screwed up on me causing much pain and now i'm using ubuntu of a live cd. I'm thinking I would really like to use it as my main OS, but that I really like to play games. Windows games. Is it possible to play games for windows in ubuntu somehow?
[01:02] <pulseezar> off*
[01:02] <Jammer> !cedega > pulseezar
[01:02] <Demize> pulseezer: Wine works.
[01:02] <Iceshadow> pulseezar: you can try cedega, but i hate it. I dual boot for gaming.
[01:02] <USMarine> !wine
[01:02] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[01:02] <dbe> pulseezar: Whine is an emulator.
[01:02] <Iceshadow> pulseezar: work in linux, play in windows :9
[01:02] <Demize> Wine is not am emulator.
[01:02] <Alkivar> i've got a system with a celeron 366 and 160mb of ram... is it powerful enough to run basic ubuntu? or should i be trying xubuntu on it?
[01:02] <Grumpy> dbe, K3B seems to be doing the trick, thanks
[01:03] <Iceshadow> Demize: Wine is an interface, correct?
[01:03] <dbe> Grumpy: yw.
[01:03] <Demize> Interface?
[01:03] <Alkivar> setting it up for an elderly housebound woman
[01:03] <Grumpy> wine is not an interface
[01:03] <Demize> WIne is Command line.
[01:03] <dbe> Iceshadow: An emulator as said.
[01:03] <casiox> dbe: i search a free software solution
[01:03] <interbird> xubuntu would be more responsive
[01:03] <dbe> casiox: Whine is free.
[01:03] <Iceshadow> I always thought it was a WinAPI interface ><
[01:03] <Iceshadow> sucks to be me
[01:03] <Grumpy> heheheh.....you said Whine
[01:04] <Alkivar> interbird: thanks... thats what i'll try then
[01:04] <Grumpy> whats up with xubuntu over ubuntu?
[01:04] <dbe> Grumpy: Yeah, that was funny.
[01:04] <pulseezar> Oh yeah, I've heard of wine before. Can it run newer games well?
[01:04] <dbe> Grumpy: I have never used it and I'm also Swedish.
[01:05] <vladi_> hello everyone
[01:05] <Grumpy> dbe, whine doesnt run most windows games, but it does runa few popular ones
[01:05] <Demize> !appdb
[01:05] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:05] <dbe> Grumpy: gNewSense is the 100% free dist derived from Ubuntu.
[01:05] <Demize> See that Grumpy.
[01:05] <dbe> Grumpy: Ok.
[01:05] <pulseezar> ok so probs dual boot is best...
[01:05] <vladi_> can you give me some help in matching windows at compiz-fusion's effects?
[01:05] <dbe> Grumpy: I'm very political when it comes to software, my mentor is RMS:
[01:06] <Stevethepirate> Hi, can anyone help me?
[01:06] <dbe> Stevethepirate: Dont ask to ask.
[01:06] <Grumpy> dbe, your not running ubuntu?
[01:06] <dbe> Grumpy: I never did.
[01:06] <Stevethepirate> According to #alsa, i'm missing a module for my soundcard..
[01:06] <pulseezar> also, can anyone point me in the direction of a site that has a good list of free linux apps? I'm going to have to replace a lot of stuff that was windows only...
[01:06] <Grumpy> dbe, thats funny your in here helping ppl solve problems
[01:06] <dbe> Grumpy: I'm just trying to be helpful here when I'm bored.
[01:06] <Grumpy> dbe, your a good soul
[01:07] <dbe> Grumpy: I wrote Sovix (sovix.org). It aims to be part of GNU.
[01:07] <Grumpy> pulseezer, are you running ubuntu?
[01:07] <Stevethepirate> dbe: help me if ur bored... i need to get a module for my sound card..
[01:07] <Grumpy> pulseezar, using ubuntu?
[01:07] <Kworth> I added an Video to my OpenOffice Presentation - but it always crashes if I try to open that slide - where can I find the video settings for open office? or how do I remove it?
[01:08] <pulseezar> at the moment from a live cd, but once o've shoved all my old windows files onto an external drive i'm going to install proper.
[01:08] <Grumpy> what kind of applications did you use?
[01:08] <dbe> pulseezar: davidenglund.org/Collection_of_free_software is my recommendations
[01:08] <pulseezar> erm..so yes!
 what i mean is an server with a conference-room site. a multiuser-video-chat solution
[01:08] <dbe> pulseezar: I've spent years on that collection.
[01:08] <fiXXXerMet> With modprobe, you can specify card=.  Where I can find a list of the values that card= accepts?
[01:09] <PinkFloyd> Im running the Gutsy beta and Ive already done upgrades several times. However, there are 4 packages being kept back. Is it ok to force install them or should I wait?
[01:09] <Muhammad> if some one noticed what I will write please help me
[01:09] <dbe> casiox: I dont know of any, please let me know if you find any. My email is dbe@gnu.org.
[01:09] <pulseezar> i need programs to use bit torrent, soul seek network, cd ripping/playing/mp3 tagging (something like fubar 2000?),
[01:09] <pulseezar> hmmmm
[01:10] <pulseezar> calendar
[01:10] <Muhammad> I got a very strange problem with ubuntu
[01:10] <pulseezar> like rainlendar
[01:10] <Grumpy> pulseezar , most everything as far as office and regular computer utilities are available free for linux. its just windows games where you will fall short
[01:10] <casiox> dbe: ok
[01:10] <Stevethepirate> pulseezar: utorrent, ?, amarok, nero linux 3
[01:10] <Grumpy> utorrent only runs in wine
[01:11] <Grumpy> though i love utorrent, im using deluge since its native
[01:11] <MoTec> azereus seemed to work for me, a while back...
[01:11] <Mexandrew> Good afternoon, gents. I need a bit of assistance setting up the open source "ati" driver for Radeon cards under Kubuntu. I cannot get glxinfo to report that there's direct rendering.  Help via private messages will be greatly appreciated
[01:11] <pulseezar> yeah, i used utorrrent before but it sounds like hassle to run under wine
[01:11] <Grumpy> azureus is java based, and i have had major problems getting the JRE in my path and azureus to recognize it\
[01:11] <Stevethepirate> !pm | Mexandrew
[01:11] <ubotu> Mexandrew: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[01:11] <Grumpy> deluge has been my answer, written in python
[01:12] <Mexandrew> Oh. Well, I'll provide details. I've followed instructions on theubuntu wiki to set up my ati driver
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | Mexandrew
[01:12] <ubotu> Mexandrew: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:12] <schwiz> Can anyone help me with installing ubuntu I am running into all kinds of problems
[01:12] <Grumpy> theres the new foxtorrent for firefox.  semms a little thin but would work for downloading onl;ly
[01:13] <dbe> pulseezar: I recommend btdownloadcurses.
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> schwiz: be a bit more specific,
[01:13] <Mexandrew> Err, I'm using a Radeon 9250. It doesn't seem to be supported by fglrx.
[01:13] <Muhammad> :(
[01:13] <dbe> Mexandrew: AMD bought ATI last year so all newer cards will have free drivers soon
[01:13] <Muhammad> can any one help me :(
[01:13] <dbe> Muhammad: Dont ask to ask.
[01:14] <schwiz> ok where to start ... lol ok well I was trying ubuntu 7.04 and when I get the cd boot menu but when I select intall/boot after it loads i get a blank screen
[01:14] <jstarcher> i just installed wine
[01:14] <jstarcher> but it doesnt work
[01:14] <pulseezar> ahhh ok. I'm gonna install ubuntu properly and sort this out after. I'll be back sometime thanks for all the help
[01:14] <jstarcher> err:winecfg:apply_drive_changes   unable to define devicename of 'C:', targetpath of '/home/stealth17/.wine/drive_c'
[01:14] <MT_head> got my verizon pc5750 to work  now on 0ut wires
[01:14] <jstarcher> any ideas?
[01:14] <Grumpy> i didnt like Bittorrent, im a dork and like my gui
[01:14] <Grumpy> pulseezar
[01:14] <dbe> jstarcher: Try #gnu if its under GNU GPL.
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> schwiz: did you boot it to the desktop?
[01:15] <schwiz> Its not installed yet so i just tried the live boot
[01:15] <jstarcher> dbe, what? why?
[01:15] <darkcrab> i dont like bittorrent
[01:15] <darkcrab> too slow
[01:15] <dbe> jstarcher: Because they are hackers.
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> schwiz: ok, thats what i asked, when you booted the Live CD, did you get all the way to the desktop?
[01:15] <Muhammad> for any one who use ubuntu  help me   I can't boot my ubuntu as I changed the hard disk to another case and for sure it can't boot
[01:15] <MT_head> have it setup to use wvdial
[01:15] <schwiz> Indy: no after the kernal loads i get a blank screen
[01:15] <jstarcher> dbe, haha that's all i need to know, thanks :)
[01:16] <Mexandrew> dbe: I wonder what I should do, really... the ATi page for fglrx says there's no support for my card, yet the wiki claims my card is fully supported for both 2D and 3D acceleration for RV280 (mentions only 9200 and 9200SE, not 9250 but it is rv280 based too)
[01:16] <rahul> yo any 1 know how to change ur name in irc
[01:16] <dbe> jstarcher: I'm one i the commuity but trying to help as many as possible here right now.
[01:16] <schwiz> indy:I was trying to get to the desktopthough
[01:16] <rahul> like ur username
[01:16] <fhClient> rahul: /name
[01:16] <Vimto> guys im installing the system and i got blank screen
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> schwiz: ok...
[01:16] <darkcrab> ubuntu has ati drivers built in.
[01:16] <Vimto> what does this mean
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> schwiz: can you start in safe graphics mode?
[01:16] <dbe> Mexandrew: I cant help you, I dont even use 3D support for my own ATI card.
[01:16] <crdlb> Mexandrew, your card is supported by the open source driver
[01:16] <schwiz> indy: tried that as well I got the same results
[01:17] <jstarcher> dbe, ahh i just fixed it....removed the .wine dir and ran winecfg again and it worked this time....thanks though!
[01:17] <[Seb] > hi im back i had no luck finding ndiswrapper on the live cd
[01:17] <dbe> jstarcher: np.
[01:17] <Mexandrew> crdlb: I know, I tried using them, followed the wiki article about teh open source drivers for it
[01:17] <darkcrab> its not on the live cd
[01:17] <Mexandrew> I didn't manage to get direct rendering, though.
[01:17] <fhClient> Hi.  I have a very quick question: how do I set a user's umask on a permanent basis?
[01:17] <Kudak> what exactly is MySQL ???
[01:17] <[Seb] > nope
[01:17] <schwiz> indy:someone told me earlier to try 7.10 instead so I downloaded that but when I try to install it, it can't detect my raid array...
[01:17] <darkcrab> thats what I am saying, its not on there.
[01:17] <dbe> fhClient: umask?
[01:17] <schwiz> I have a partition all ready for the install but it sees 3 seperate disks instead of the array
[01:18] <Nemesis> automatrix has it
[01:18] <astro76> schwiz, you need the alternate install cd to install on raid
[01:18] <Vimto> i got an error says, somethings such as themes, sounds or background may  not work correctly
[01:18] <fhClient> dbe: default permissions for files and directories created by the user
[01:18] <crdlb> Mexandrew, did you remove fglrx?
[01:18] <Vimto> what can i do ?
[01:18] <astro76> !automatix | Nemesis
[01:18] <ubotu> Nemesis: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> schwiz: well, the only time ive ever had a prob installing Ubuntu, was with Raid, so sorry i can't be much help
[01:18] <Mexandrew> crdlb: Yes, followed the instructions to remove it.
[01:18] <[Seb] > what do i do now
[01:18] <crdlb> Mexandrew, well try again, I may be able to tell you what's wrong
[01:19] <darkcrab> you cant use ndiswrapper with the livecd
[01:19] <schwiz> anyone know what i need to install on a raid 0 partition dual booting w/ vista?
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> !raid
[01:19] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:19] <rahul> rahul! change name
[01:19] <Mexandrew> crdlb: Okay, changing from vesa to ati driver, following instructions on wiki again, I'll be right back.
[01:19] <rahul> rahul!
[01:19] <Vimto> i got an error says, somethings such as themes, sounds or background may  not work correctly. what to do now?
[01:19] <rahul> change name
[01:19] <dbe> darkcrab: Get ATI cards to avoid non-free software.
[01:19] <schwiz> thanks for the link
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> uh?.. ATI is "less free" than Nvidia.
[01:19] <fhClient> never mind, i think i figured it out.
[01:19] <PinkFloyd> Im running the Gutsy beta and Ive already done upgrades several times. However, there are 4 packages being kept back. Is it ok to force install them or should I wait?
[01:19] <[Seb] > how do i get it to linux now if i cant download it via the package manager
[01:19] <Stevethepirate> PinkFloyd: hold back
[01:19] <Stevethepirate> well
[01:20] <Stevethepirate> what are they?
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> why are they being kept back?
[01:20] <dbe> [Seb] : What are you talking about?
[01:20] <Stevethepirate> if they're ubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <Tb0n3> ok guys, I'm having a problem compiling gpsd from source and I'm getting errors in the make phase
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> and yes, what are they?
[01:20] <[Seb] > ndiswrapper
[01:20] <Stevethepirate> then you can't really keep them back
[01:20] <Mega_pain> can anyone help me install my windows xp internet driver so i can find the rest of the drivers
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> whyd o you want to keep them back?
[01:20] <PinkFloyd> Stevethepirate , libcegui-mk2-dev linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic ntfs3-g
[01:20] <darkcrab> you can download ndiswrapper via package manager if you install ubuntu to your computer.
[01:20] <Tb0n3> ld doesn't recognise -lncurses
[01:20] <Mega_pain> i got the driver just dont know where to put in
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> PinkFloyd: i would just install them...
[01:21] <schwiz> arg that link has instuctions on how to set up raid once you have linux installed.  I need instructions on how to install linux on a raid partition :(
[01:21] <dbe> Mega_pain: Neve ask for Windows support in a GNU/Linux channel, try #windows.
[01:21] <Stevethepirate> PinkFloyd: you might need the ntfs-3g
[01:21] <Mega_pain> i dont get windows dood
[01:21] <Muhammad> I changed my case but didn't chaneged the hard disk  so can I still run ubuntu       I can't boot it with the new case ???????????????
[01:21] <Mega_pain> that's y i came here
[01:21] <Vimto> i got an error says, somethings such as themes, sounds or background may  not work correctly. what to do now?
[01:21] <PinkFloyd> Stevethepirate, ok I was just wondering. Im running kernel 2.6.22
[01:21] <[Seb] > darkcrab: i allready have it installed but i cant get my internet to work
[01:21] <Stevethepirate> PinkFloyd: same
[01:21] <Mega_pain> some1 plz help me
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> Vimto: fix something
[01:22] <darkcrab> what brand is your wireless card Seb?
[01:22] <Vimto> IndyGunFreak what something?
[01:22] <[Seb] > its a usb adapter and its belkin
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> don't know, you probably need to track down what its telling you is bonked up
[01:22] <Vimto> im trying to install it! i haven't done anything to it
[01:22] <Mega_pain> some one plz help
[01:22] <astro76> !please
[01:22] <ubotu> Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[01:22] <Vimto> i even cant move the mouse to click on close button
[01:22] <Muhammad> :S I can't find any help here
[01:22] <darkcrab> does your ethernet work?
[01:22] <unagi> please help me, i really need this!
[01:22] <scoglio> Hi. I have installed Ubuntu today. Anybody can help me?
[01:22] <schwiz> !raid
[01:22] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:23] <[Seb] > i dont have a ethernet port on this old pc
[01:23] <PinkFloyd> Stevethepirate, it's a kernel upgrade from 2.6.22-13 to 14
[01:23] <Stevethepirate> PinkFloyd: hmm, maybe force that in particular
[01:23] <Tb0n3> http://pastebin.com/d5a3b8313 I get that when I try to make, I can't see a solution
[01:23] <darkcrab> ok, then you will have to download either the source or the .deb packages of ndiswrapper and compile them that way.
[01:23] <Muhammad> looks like that I will leave this chat without any help :(
[01:23] <PinkFloyd> Stevethepirate I forced all 4 of them
[01:23] <Stevethepirate> although i read something about ntfs-3g today
[01:23] <Stevethepirate> lols
[01:23] <Mega_pain> so anyone would like to tell me where to put the driver for internet and how to install it on windows xp
[01:23] <Stevethepirate> PinkFloyd: GL then
[01:23] <darkcrab> if you search the forums, there is instructions on how to do that.
[01:23] <Mega_pain> where do i search
[01:24] <astro76> !windows | Mega_pain
[01:24] <ubotu> Mega_pain: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:24] <darkcrab> lol
[01:24] <pike_> Mega_pain: /j #windows
[01:24] <scoglio> My X-Windows screen resolution have only 800x600 mode selectable (GeForce 4 MX). How to fix that? :-/
[01:24] <[Seb] > ok dose it have any special requirements or will i need to dl some other packages
[01:24] <pike_> !fixres | scoglio
[01:24] <ubotu> scoglio: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:25] <Mega_pain> how do i get ot windows channle some 1 plz tell me that atleast
[01:25] <pike_> Mega_pain: type /join #windows
[01:25] <astro76> Mega_pain, type: /join #windows
[01:25] <Vimto> installation if field on windows xp
[01:25] <Muhammad> if someone come here and asked for help  ... how can he do that ?\
[01:25] <Vimto> is*
[01:25] <scoglio> Thank you!
[01:25] <gokhan_> is there a way to see if i enabled my wireless card on my laptop or not by some command?
[01:25] <dbe> Mega_pain: /join #windows.
[01:25] <Vimto> im always rebooting from the disk and i can not get the system installed!
[01:26] <darkcrab> Seb, installing from source is very different, and you have to do it from command line, just make sure you search the forums on how to do it before you start to install, for the .deb package, yes, there are many other .deb packages required to install it. It is really complicated but if you cannot download it from synaptic you basically have no other option.
[01:26] <bob__> is there a way to bind a key to open a console window?
[01:26] <Muhammad> my bad :(
[01:26] <gokhan_> is there a way to see if i enabled my wireless card on my laptop by some command?
[01:26] <astro76> Muhammad, what happens when you boot now?
[01:26] <ChaosParser> gokhan_: go into a terminal and type iwlist scanning
[01:26] <Muhammad> notthing
[01:26] <FatalCure> gokhan_: look for meaningful output from "iwlist scanning"
[01:26] <dbe> bob__: Use commands from Alt-F2 instead.
[01:26] <Muhammad> it stooped
[01:26] <dbe> bob__: Alt-2*
[01:27] <[Seb] > lol il see if u can plug my moden back how it was befor i got the router and stuff and see if it will work again
[01:27] <darkcrab> I would also look around and see if you can download the firmware for you wireless device.
[01:27] <gokhan_> ChaosParser, it says "no scan results"
[01:27] <astro76> bob__, console or do you mean an x terminal?
[01:27] <bob__> i'm not sure
[01:27] <bob__> command line would be the windows equiv
[01:28] <[Seb] > il be back if i cant get my modem to work again
[01:28] <astro76> bob__, the one in applications > accessories > terminal, you can bind a key by going to system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[01:28] <darkcrab> k
[01:28] <bob__> that's exactly what i want
[01:28] <bob__> awesome
[01:28] <dbe> bob__: Alt-F2 > gnome-terminal.
[01:28] <astro76> that's not what he wants
[01:28] <bob__> i hit alt+F2
[01:29] <bob__> but that's bringing up what is liek the Run command in windows
[01:29] <bob__> i want the interactive shell thingie
[01:29] <bob__> terminal
[01:29] <Mexandrew> crdlb: I'm back on the radeondriver. I'm using these options: ["XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"] ["AccelMethod" "XAA"] ["ColorTiling" "on"] ["GARTSize" "0"] 
[01:29] <ChaosParser> gokhan_: Does it say device does not support scanning?
[01:29] <astro76> bob__, there's already an entry for gnome terminal in Keyboard Shortcuts, just have to set the key
[01:29] <darkcrab> anybody play egoboo?
[01:29] <crdlb> Mexandrew, you don't need any of those except for the first one
[01:30] <crdlb> Mexandrew, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:30] <thesaint4444> hi guys, can anyone give me an example of an ip alias /etc/network file, I want to add eth0:0 as an ip alias on my network.... thanks..
[01:30] <MasterShrek> i used to darkcrab
[01:30] <dbe> bob__: You execute 'cmd' in windows after Win-r, you execuete 'gnome-terminal' in GNOME after Alt-F2.
[01:30] <gokhan_> ChaosParser, no it doesn't say that, what it says exactly is "wlan0     No scan results"
[01:30] <Muhammad> astro76  I can tell you exactly what I did
[01:30] <darkcrab> do you happen to know of a fix for the transparent characters bug?
[01:31] <MasterShrek> no idea darkcrab i havent played it in awhile, downloading now....
[01:31] <darkcrab> k
[01:32] <Mexandrew> crdlb: http://rafb.net/p/I6W0l826.html
[01:32] <Mexandrew> wait
[01:32] <Mexandrew> ugh, it was not complete, crdlb
[01:32] <Mexandrew> Sorry, repasting
[01:32] <unagi> ubuntu gave me a blue screen error.......what do i do
[01:32] <crdlb> heh ok
[01:32] <bob__> I have tried binding a couple different things, but when i hit the key combo nothing pops up, could beryl be getting in the way or something?
[01:33] <unagi> people stll run beryl?
[01:33] <unagi> ew
[01:33] <astro76> unagi, you must be running windows unknowingly if you got a blue screen
[01:33] <darkcrab> i run compiz
[01:33] <FatalCure> beryl avoids blue screen errors ;P
[01:33] <unagi> beryl locks me up
[01:33] <unagi> or it did
[01:33] <unagi> which is why i stopped using it
[01:33] <unagi> but compiz fusion is yum
[01:34] <Inferno> I'd love to have CF
[01:34] <Muhammad> I can't boot my ubuntu  and I know why  but I don't know how to slove this problem :(
[01:34] <bob__> no problems here, but i heard them and compiz reformed like voltron?  havn't had time to look into it
[01:34] <unagi> why not get it
[01:34] <Inferno> But it's not ocmpatible with Dapper or my video card
[01:34] <Inferno> Although I'm not sure about the video card
[01:34] <astro76> Muhammad, how far does the booting get, before grub?
[01:34] <f0rtune> Hi, Im using gproftpd, is there a way to let a user access all folders and files, without having to list every folder in the 'users' tab?
[01:34] <Inferno> might just need drivers or whatever linux needs
[01:34] <Inferno> Oh wow
[01:34] <darkcrab> you know what I have noticed. A lot of people that come in here dont look up there problem on the forums before they come in here.
[01:35] <Inferno> I just noticed I'm in the wrong channel xD
[01:35] <astro76> darkcrab, no kidding :p
[01:35] <Hoosteen> ok..i want my volumes to display on my desktop but currently they do not. I've got the volumes_visible option ticked in gconf but it's not making a difference...any ideas? cdrom and usb drives show up fine...
[01:36] <astro76> Hoosteen, what is not showing up?
[01:36] <Mexandrew> crdlb: This is complete paste: http://rafb.net/p/vGxQED49.html
[01:36] <f0rtune> how do i allow a user to access all files and folders with gproftpd?
[01:36] <Muhammad> I really don't know  but was booting this it stooped and flash the screen
[01:36] <Hoosteen> astro76: my HDD volumes
[01:36] <Hoosteen> astro76: hda1, hda2 and hda3
[01:36] <crdlb> Mexandrew, you have the nvidia driver installed
[01:37] <crdlb> which clobbers mesa glx
[01:37] <Muhammad> I will tell you what I did
[01:37] <pike_> f0rtune: i assume there is a config file in /etc/ but youd need to check man page 'man gproftpd' or google or whatever sorry i dunno if many here will be familiar with that ftp server
[01:37] <Mexandrew> crdlb: O_o hell, that's right... I forgot to remove it after replacing my video card
[01:37] <crdlb> Mexandrew, sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:37] <crdlb> then sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx
[01:37] <Mexandrew> crdlb: I feel like such an idiot...  removing that
[01:38] <Muhammad> I tock the hard disk and put it in another case and boot from it
[01:38] <crdlb> :)
[01:38] <pike_> f0rtune: consider openssh-server as an alternative you can then use sftp and scp  winscp is a popular windows client for it
[01:38] <FatalCure> Muhammad: Select Recovery mode from the boot menu, once it boots:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:38] <dbe> pike_: Heard bout ReactOS?
[01:39] <Vimto> how can i install the system onto windows xp?
[01:39] <astro76> !install
[01:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:40] <Muhammad> I will try   but you know   I think this happened becuase the devics was not the same
[01:40] <twoshadetod> Vimto, you just download the .iso, burn it onto disk and reboot your computer with it in yer drive
[01:40] <dbe> pike_: I cant wait til its being released, Its goint to effect the whole windows addicted maket with a free windows subsitute.
[01:40] <pike_> dbe: not much.
[01:40] <Muhammad> but what this code do ?
[01:40] <astro76> !offtopic | dbe
[01:40] <ubotu> dbe: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:40] <unagi> vimto.........shrink the windows partition format in ext3 install ubuntu
[01:40] <FatalCure> Muhammad: you probably have different video hardware, the command will reconfigure it
[01:40] <Meroigo> I'm getting two SyncMaster 997DF 19" monitors soon. Are they 100% compatible with ubuntu? =P..
[01:40] <Mexandrew> crdlb: Done, and done removing unnecesary options from xorg.conf, so, time to restart the X server?
[01:40] <Vimto> unagi, you mean i need to do something before rebooting from the disk?
[01:40] <boris55> is ubuntu+1 still around?
[01:41] <astro76> boris55, indeed
[01:41] <unagi> you need to shrink the ntfs file system
[01:41] <pike_> Muhammad: vesa is the safe choice for driver usually if you run into problems
[01:41] <DM|> Anyone know what mount option i should put in nautillus to have a USB HDD to mount under a non root group id
[01:41] <crdlb> Mexandrew, yes
[01:41] <Mexandrew> Okay, BRB
[01:41] <boris55> thanks
[01:41] <unagi> its easier to do that with the xp cd than it is with the live cd
[01:41] <Vimto> unagi alright, i need to put the windows disk first to do that, then i reboot ubuntu disk, am i right?
[01:42] <bob__> after assigning a new hotkey in keyboard preferences, do i need to restart a service or something?  It is not working
[01:42] <unagi> you put in the windows disk.......shrink the ntfs partition.........reboot into ubuntu........install using the 'largest continuous free space'
[01:42] <eauxnguyen_> !ipod
[01:42] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[01:42] <_protest|> hi, i'm trying to rename all .jpg files in all subfolders of one folder to cover.jpg, I assum this can somehow be done with find.. | xargs mv .. any help how to do it right?
[01:42] <eauxnguyen_> !rockbox
[01:42] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[01:43] <darkcrab> wb seb
[01:43] <Muhammad> ok  if it works and I got into ubunto  how can I replace the new drivers with the old one ?
[01:43] <unagi> bob__: are you using compiz?
[01:43] <[seb] > hi im no my laptop no luck with the modem
[01:43] <bob__> currently in beryl, should i turn that off?
[01:43] <unagi> no.......use beryl's options for the shortcut
[01:43] <[seb] > can u take me thru what im ment to do
[01:43] <Mexandrew> crdlb: It works! Thanks a lot, and sorry for being such a newbie, but I really wanna start using Kubuntumore and more every day
[01:44] <bob__> ah yeah, in metacity it works, i'll figure it out in beryl, ty
[01:44] <pike_> [seb] : winmodems can be painful
[01:44] <darkcrab> I mean, I cant tell you 100% seb, but probably at this point search on the forums for either the firmware for your wireless device or instructions for installing ndiswrapper from source.
[01:44] <Mexandrew> Just like the wiki says, glxinfo | grep vendor reports SGI
[01:44] <pike_> [seb] : seen the dialup howto?
[01:44] <[seb] > its not dialup
[01:44] <musashi_> wth
[01:44] <musashi_> :<
[01:45] <pike_> [seb] : dsl?
[01:45] <crdlb> Mexandrew, great :)
[01:45] <[seb] > cable
[01:45] <wers> I want to put my font settings back to default. Other than .fonts.conf, what file do I delete?
[01:45] <musashi_> i keep getting messages from syslogd@DaJi, that they are dissabling IRQ #7 or something similar to that
[01:45] <musashi_> what does that mean
[01:45] <monkeyBox> Is there a reason why ubuntu doesn't have an init script for subversion server/
[01:45] <pike_> [seb] : ah.  that should be easy normally
[01:45] <pike_> [seb] : usb or ethernet?
[01:45] <darkcrab> the best information your going to find is on the forums, not in chat.
[01:45] <Mexandrew> crdlb andeveryone, thanks for your assistance. I shall nwo start tweaking my options and enjoy my new card under Kubuntu
[01:46] <darkcrab> chat should be a last ditch effort.
[01:46] <Mexandrew> Thanks again, goodbye!
[01:46] <darkcrab> when you are at your wits end.
[01:46] <musashi_> really =o? i always come here first :x
[01:46] <[seb] > usb but im going wireless and that the problem i can find drivers for the belkin N wireless router
[01:47] <[seb] > sorry usb adapter nor router
[01:47] <acuster> hey all, how does one go from a tar.gz to a .deb?
[01:47] <Muhammad> Pike: how can enter the safe mode
[01:47] <dbe> [seb] : Linksys has free wireless routers.
[01:47] <pike_> [seb] : yeah i can see that. i normally go with a or g for linux.
[01:47] <jhou> [seb] ,  wahts the moddel number?
[01:47] <[seb] > um let me find out
[01:47] <pike_> Muhammad: im not too familiar with the safe grahics mode i can walk you though reconfiging x if you have a question
[01:48] <FatalCure> acuster: untar it, ./configure, make, sudo checkinstall
[01:48] <FatalCure> !checkinstall | acuster
[01:48] <ubotu> acuster: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[01:48] <musashi_> crap
[01:48] <[seb] > damn they couldnt type it any smaller
[01:48] <musashi_> maybe thats whats messing up my internet
[01:48] <[mayh3m] pt> What do I need to install to be able to compile the installer for ircu?
[01:48] <[seb] > f5d8053
[01:48] <acuster> FatalCure, thanks that sounds perfect
[01:49] <darkcrab> what is ircu?
[01:49] <[mayh3m] pt> and IRCD
[01:49] <FatalCure> acuster: np :)
[01:49] <Muhammad> pike:  you know  one of my friends installed ubuntu in a computer then tock the hard disk and run it in another one and it works great ..... I did the same  but it didn't work with me
[01:49] <pike_> Muhammad: what is your video card? ati or intel or nvidia?
[01:49] <Muhammad> I was thinking it is problem with drivers as it is not the same
[01:50] <Muhammad> nvidia
[01:50] <[seb] > jhou: f5d8053 is the modle of the usb adapter
[01:50] <astro76> Muhammad, you said new case but what else changed? video card, motherboard, etc... ?
[01:50] <FatalCure> Muhammad: did you try what I told you?
[01:50] <pike_> Muhammad: nvidia should be easy
[01:51] <pike_> Muhammad: are you at the command line now?
[01:51] <[mayh3m] pt> Can someone just ask me what I have to install to be able to use the ./configure commands for things?
[01:51] <RichardGere> Enterhello everyone
[01:51] <unagi> is there any place i can see the major changes in 7.10?
[01:51] <myusrnm> my computer has stopped all audio. what may have caused this / how do i solve?
[01:51] <astro76> unagi, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta
[01:52] <Muhammad> FatalCure : not yet I had to restart    so I ask about everything   I'm not sure I can come here again :(
[01:52] <FatalCure> unagi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseNotes
[01:52] <pike_> myusrnm: run alsamixer and take a look at volume levels prob just something muted or turned down
[01:52] <Muhammad> pike: I'm not
[01:52] <pike_> Muhammad: you are in the gui?
[01:52] <pike_> Muhammad: desktop environment?
[01:53] <Muhammad> pike: no no now I'm runing my windows xp
[01:53] <myusrnm> Alsamixer shows master at 100 and pcm at 0
[01:53] <myusrnm> what is pcm?
[01:53] <jhou> [seb] , if ndis doesn work u can give this a try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236&highlight=serial+monkey
[01:53] <jhou> no gauratneess though
[01:53] <myusrnm> also there is a box connected to the bar on master that says "00"
[01:54] <kitche> myusrnm: pcm turn that up too 100 if you wish it's what gives you sound 00 most likely means it's not muted
[01:54] <Mega_pain> does anyone know how to run steam on linux
[01:54] <MasterShrek> !wine | Mega_pain
[01:54] <kitche> Mega_pain: wine
[01:54] <ubotu> Mega_pain: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[01:54] <[mayh3m] pt> Mega_pain: there was this program called ummmm well i forget but it lets you run games and stuff like that
[01:54] <wers> What configurations files other than .fonts.conf do I delete or manipulate for me to put my font settings back to default?
[01:54] <[mayh3m] pt> Wine, thats it.
[01:54] <MasterShrek> cedega also
[01:54] <[seb] > i cant even get ndis cos i havnt a clue how to compile from source
[01:54] <pike_> Muhammad: 1) alt-ctrl-f2   2) login 3) sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  4) seleve 'nv' driver  and hit enter to select default for everything else  5) sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:54] <MasterShrek> but u gotta pay for cedega
[01:55] <pike_> Muhammad: select i mean
[01:55] <Crippy-boy> [seb] , ./compile && make && make install, that or read the docs?
[01:55] <kitche> well you don't have to pay for cedega but their cvs is horrible
[01:55] <[mayh3m] pt> Si senor.
[01:55] <[seb] > ok il give it a shot but i dont realy know what ndis is
[01:56] <jhou> [seb] , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[01:56] <jhou> see the 3rd sectin?
[01:56] <Muhammad> pike: ok I will try what you told me and also what FatalCure told me and will come back to tell you what happened
[01:56] <Crippy-boy> ndiswrapper allows you to use windows drivers for wireless cards
[01:56] <jhou> with net access on another computer
[01:56] <jhou> thats you
[01:56] <myusrnm> thanks kitche!
[01:56] <pike_> Muhammad: good luck :)
[01:56] <thesaint4444> guys, where would i find out the definitive way to set up ip aliasing the ubuntu way?
[01:56] <myusrnm> and pike_!
[01:56] <darkcrab> im telling you seb, be very careful combiling software on linux.
[01:56] <Muhammad> thx so much for helping
[01:56] <Crippy-boy> darkcrab, Why exactly?
[01:57] <jhou> darkcrab, dont scare the guy
[01:57] <jhou> gosh
[01:57] <lesshaste> I just upgraded to skype 1.4.x  http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/  but now the microphone volume seems very low
[01:57] <darkcrab> it is really easy to type something wrong and screw up
[01:57] <lesshaste> how can I fix this?
[01:57] <kitche> it's not hard to compile software on linux just make sure your --prefix=/usr/local/
[01:57] <Mega_pain> ok i got wine now how do i run stuff in to it
[01:57] <bulmer> darkcrab: what are you referring to?
[01:57] <darkcrab> sorry, not trying to scare jhou, just prevent him from screwing up his sytem.
[01:57] <Crippy-boy> Only if you don't read the docs and it's almost always fixable.
[01:57] <jhou> : P
[01:58] <bulmer> darkcrab not that easy
[01:58] <darkcrab> package errors, missing parts of the package, making sure you have all the needed tools pre-compiling.
[01:58] <[per0las] > Someone knows why when i press ctrl + alt + left key the works spaces go from 1 workspace to 3 workspace. go 2 and 2 at the same time ... and not to the workspace next close
[01:58] <jhou> for the most part if configure doenst work or make
[01:58] <jhou> ur still okay
[01:58] <eauxnguyen_> any advice on ipod connecting to 7.04 my fstab?
[01:58] <lesshaste> how do I just the microphone volume settings in xfce?
[01:58] <Crippy-boy> Yep, chances are if there are missing deps etc configure will bitch.
[01:58] <kitche> [per0las] : ctrl+alt+left means goes backwards so it will go to 3 from 1 2 from 3 and so on
[01:59] <[seb] > wichsection of that tut do i look at
[01:59] <eauxnguyen_> followed the two walk throughs found on the ubuntu site
[01:59] <darkcrab> yea, you can do a sudo make uninstall
[01:59] <Crippy-boy> Isn't there a precompiled package for ubuntu anyways?
[01:59] <thesaint4444> does anyone know if you have to use the 'auto eth0' definition twice in the network file for ip aliasing?
[01:59] <darkcrab> he doesnt have access to the internet.
[01:59] <Crippy-boy> I've never needed ndis so I wouldn't know but I'd assume so?
[01:59] <jhou> [seb] ,  2.2 tells u waht files to downlaod and tranfer to the ubuntu box and install ndiswrapper
[01:59] <tongueroo> trying to use the "dig google.com mx" command
[01:59] <[per0las] > kitche do you now how can i change this?!
[01:59] <tongueroo> but not install
[01:59] <cafuego> eauxnguyen_: Um, it automounts to the desktop, does it not?
[01:59] <Crippy-boy> deb package + flash drive/cd/other storage media?
[02:00] <tongueroo> anyone know which package i need to install?
[02:00] <[seb] > thanks
[02:00] <jhou> np
[02:00] <kitche> [per0las] : use ctrl+alt+right instead?
[02:00] <eauxnguyen_> yes it does
[02:00] <eauxnguyen_> I find it in mtab
[02:00] <[seb] > il be in touch when linux screws up my bios again lol
[02:00] <darkcrab> the ndiswrapper .deb package has a lot of dependencies outside of ubuntu
[02:00] <jhou> hohoho
[02:00] <[per0las] > kitche that what im using :x ctrl+alt+right :x
[02:00] <eauxnguyen_> I can browse it I just can't get gtkpod or amarok to find it
[02:00] <cafuego> eauxnguyen_: yes, it's not treated like fixed disks, it's automounted to /media/ipod
[02:01] <jhou> yeah but this doc tells you which dep debs to download
[02:01] <cafuego> eauxnguyen_: Just tell gtkpod that's where it lives.
[02:01] <kitche> eauxnguyen_: is this a newer ipod?
[02:01] <[seb] > so do i just dl those 3 files
[02:01] <eauxnguyen_> tried a specific entry in fstab pointing to media/ipod and pointed gtkpod at that
[02:01] <jhou> think so
[02:01] <jhou> not entirely sure
[02:01] <eauxnguyen_> it's 6th gen 2gb (silver)
[02:02] <kitche> eauxnguyen_: what's the 6th gen? sicne that doesn't tell me much :)
[02:02] <cafuego> eauxnguyen_: gtkpod has *nothing* to do with fstab. You just need to tell it where the pod is automounted.
[02:02] <[seb] > ahhhh were do i click to dl the file
[02:02] <[seb] > nvm
[02:02] <hvgotcodes> is there a theme pack for feisty (gnome)?
[02:02] <cafuego> eauxnguyen_: However, it's possible you need a newer gtkpod (build the svn version, see if that works)
[02:02] <kitche> eauxnguyen_: just wondering since the newer ipods don't work with linux programs really right now
[02:02] <darkcrab> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/
[02:02] <pike_> why o why cant people create tiff files within the standards!!
[02:02] <darkcrab> seb, click on that
[02:03] <eauxnguyen_> cafuego: understood. I just thought that might tell it where it is automounted.
[02:03] <jhou> [seb] ,  the links in a table its like...under achitecture the link name is "all"
[02:03] <Crippy-boy> I'm off. :)
[02:03] <jhou> : )
[02:03] <misfitpierce> farewell
[02:03] <eauxnguyen_> kitche: it's a refurb model so not too new? model # isn't listed in gtkpod so that may be the issue
[02:03] <pike_> ach sorry thought i was in offtopic
[02:03] <Crippy-boy> Take care, happy hackin'
[02:03] <eauxnguyen_> model # is A1199
[02:03] <Elven> hi, anyone knows how to make Compiz-fusion works better on a geforce 8800. It looks like the 2d effects are working just on the CPU
[02:03] <jj420> can anyone help me with compiz-fusion on feisty?
[02:04] <hvgotcodes> anyone, how to get gnome themes for feisty?
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> !compiz
[02:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:04] <darkcrab> i just turned it on and it worked.
[02:04] <eauxnguyen_> I will go check out the svn for gtkpod. I don't know if amarok would be any happier. Both don't find it
[02:04] <kdubois> why are we still advising XGL?
[02:04] <[seb] > now geting them on my memstick
[02:04] <kitche> hvgotcodes: gnome-look.org is one of the sites to get themes
[02:05] <kitche> kdubois: people still use XGL
[02:05] <Elven> !compiz
[02:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:05] <danielbw> is compiz not availbale for xinerama and nvidia
[02:05] <kdubois> yeah, but we should be encouraging AIGLX usage if at all possible
[02:05] <darkcrab> that is one thing I didnt understand, how do you install a compiz theme?
[02:05] <kdubois> its a lot easier
[02:05] <danielbw> is there something special i have to to make it work with xinerama
[02:05] <hvgotcodes> kitche: im talking about a theme pack?
[02:05] <kitche> hvgotcodes: as I said gnome-look.org
[02:06] <[mayh3m] pt> What do I need to install to be able to compile things?
[02:06] <unagi> is there any place i can see the major changes in 7.1?
[02:06] <VSpike> Could feisty and gutsy share the same /boot and /root?
[02:06] <unagi> oops
[02:06] <unagi> is there talk of hibernation actually working in 7.1?
[02:06] <kdubois> [mayh3m] pt: libtool g++ automake for starters
[02:06] <jhou> VSpike, uh..theoretical or are you actually going to try this?
[02:06] <[seb] > right their on the ubuntu system now what
[02:06] <hvgotcodes> kitche:  yeah ive been all over that site.  looking for a good dark theme that doesn't make eclipse unusable
[02:06] <[mayh3m] pt> kdubois: is that like if i downloaded something and i need to type ./configure to install it?
[02:07] <fiXXXerMet> I installed teamspeak from apt-get but I don't know how to get it working with my usb headset/microphone
[02:07] <jhou> [seb] ,  same document.....same section 2.2 there are 3 commands in a gray box
[02:07] <VSpike> jhou: was thinking about installing gutsy in parallel for testing, and also have been thinking for a while about using LVM
[02:07] <[seb] > kk
[02:07] <jhou> copy each line individually seb
[02:07] <jhou> and enter ur password
[02:07] <[seb] > ok
[02:07] <hvgotcodes> whats the theme on ubuntustudio?
[02:08] <jhou> VSpike, in theory its  ...
[02:08] <jhou> uh
[02:08] <jhou> no clue
[02:08] <VSpike> jhou: Some people suggested that it made sense to have /boot outside LVM
[02:08] <kdubois> [mayh3m] pt: yes. you may need to get individual libraries for what you are compiling
[02:08] <jhou> yeah
[02:08] <jhou> roots no worries
[02:08] <jhou> but
[02:08] <kdubois> [mayh3m] pt: what are you trying to compile?
[02:08] <VSpike> jhou: tbh I'm not sure I see what use it would be
[02:08] <jhou> boots hairy
[02:08] <jhou> why dontu try a virtual machine?
[02:08] <[seb] > do i have to do it via comand line or can i use the gui thing
[02:08] <VSpike> jhou: well, it's possible to have several kernels in /boot - it all depends on what grub says to do
[02:09] <nomaS> how can do, to write "ls" and show me folders with colors ?
[02:09] <jhou> u should use command line....like the uh gnome terminal
[02:09] <jhou> or something
[02:09] <thesaint4444> if you manually edit the /etc/network file can you bring the new ip alias up with ifconfig eth:1 up?
[02:09] <kdubois> nomaS: ls --colot
[02:09] <VSpike> jhou: grub specifies which kernel and initrd to load, and which parition to mount as root .. so I figure it would be OK
[02:09] <kdubois> nomaS: ls -color
[02:09] <nomaS> i just add that to with alias?
[02:09] <jhou> well VSpike one way to find out : )
[02:09] <VSpike> jhou: reason for not using VM is I want to test on my hardware and also possibly to switch to the gutsy install when its stable
[02:10] <Red> hello
[02:10] <kdubois> nomaS: i am sorry. i keep typo-ing alias ls="ls --color" will work
[02:10] <VSpike> jhou: I fancy a clean install rather than an upgrade
[02:10] <VSpike> jhou: yah, coudl just try it out :) I'm not sure, just considering all possibilities
[02:10] <nomaS> i need to do that on root ? and then it will shows to all other users on the dedicated server?
[02:10] <jhou> VSpike, theres like ways to load actual partitions as VM with vmware...seems kinda cool but never tried
[02:10] <nomaS> kdubois : i need to do that on root ? and then it will shows to all other users on the dedicated server?
[02:11] <VSpike> jhou: yeah, I did that before with Windows.  It's OK, but you don't want to also have the partition mounted by the host OS
[02:11] <[seb] > um laptop battery is low so what do i do once its installed
[02:11] <VSpike> jhou: windows guest on ubuntu, I should say
[02:11] <lee__> oh ok so this isthe one that runs the shaded background
[02:12] <komputes> How should I test software that gives me "no assurance - no guarantees" that it will work (without messing up my Ubuntu Box?)
[02:12] <jhou> VSpike, good stuff :)
[02:12] <kdubois> nomaS: you might have to modify a file for all the users on the dedicated server, something like .bashrc
[02:13] <sandra> join #ubuntu-classroom
[02:13] <jhou> [seb] , with that installed u should be able to follwo the rest of the document...i think u shold try the drivers that came on the CD with the wifi card
[02:13] <azzman> cant wait til 7.10 hits
[02:13] <lee__> gutsy
[02:13] <kdubois> azzman: me too, although i'm already on the beta
[02:13] <azzman> i hear that the ati driver issue has been resolved for compfiz
[02:13] <komputes> you can wait it's like a week...
[02:13] <john_priest> whats the best way to change the gtk theme under fluxbox?
[02:13] <[seb] > kk thank you for the help if the battery survives il ask if i need any help
[02:13] <mheath> Anyone here hapen to use a serial-based Wacom tablet PC? I've got a weird porblem where the device locks up coming out of suspend.
[02:14] <azzman> kdubois: how is the beta?
[02:14] <lee__> hmm I was triyng to triger the bot onto telling me what the channel was for gutsy
[02:14] <kitche> lee__: #ubuntu+1
[02:14] <trip-trippin> i need help pls... i am trying to install ubuntu but cannot
[02:14] <kdubois> azzman: its pretty good. they clean up some things, some basic 3d effects are working
[02:14] <azzman> mheath ive heard this happen with several other users also w/ tablets
[02:14] <capo> how do i find out where XP is installed so i can add it on GRUB?
[02:14] <pike_> capo: sudo fdisk -l   look for ntfs
[02:15] <azzman> tiight.. should be good.
[02:15] <mheath> azzman: Can't point me to any docs, can you?
[02:15] <snollux> are there stairs in your house?
[02:15] <michael> did they change anything on the network manager in 7.10 beta?
[02:15] <azzman> lemme see.. mheath
[02:15] <capo> pike: thanks man
[02:15] <azzman> the best i can say is searching the forums mheath
[02:15] <azzman> they have a vast amount of questions answered there
[02:16] <trip-trippin> i partition the disk manual and then cannot uderstand what to do
[02:16] <azzman> mheath what kinda tablet ya got? all my issues are with the HP tablets at work
[02:17] <steve1> trip, you make 2 extera partition one for the swap and one for the "/" Root
[02:17] <mheath> azzman: Searched already. It's a Toshiba M200.
[02:17] <jhou> trip-trippin, did u designate the mountpoint?
[02:17] <komputes> Whats your favorite method to safely test untested software.
[02:18] <trip-trippin> what do you mean 2 extra partition?
[02:18] <Rueshard> anyone here help with a unbuntu installation?
[02:18] <steve1> well if you have windows installed then needs to be another two partitions
[02:18] <trip-trippin> i have
[02:18] <r0bby> Rueshard: well you can start by asking..
[02:18] <steve1> one with atleast 256mb in size
[02:19] <steve1> for the swap
[02:19] <Rueshard> Haha thanks r0bby
[02:19] <r0bby> !ask > Rueshard
[02:19] <trip-trippin> what is swap?
[02:19] <r0bby> !swap
[02:19] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[02:19] <darkcrab> what do you think is a good size for the home folder?
[02:19] <kdubois> i remember the good old days before #ubuntu became the most crowded place on the interwebs....
[02:19] <[seb] > now installing drivers
[02:19] <darkcrab> lol
[02:19] <jhou> nice [seb] 
[02:19] <darkcrab> cool seb, good luck
[02:20] <jj420> can aneone help me with this http://pastebin.com/m4de04f1a
[02:20] <trip-trippin> and how do i choose the root and the swap partition?
[02:20] <Rueshard> ok got an asus a3a laptop saw a site that said ubuntu 6.06 lts was best ... installed relitively harmlessly
[02:20] <steve1> through the install
[02:20] <markofr> hello to all
[02:20] <[seb] > do i install xp or vista and 2k or 64
[02:20] <steve1> hi :P
[02:20] <pulseezar> hello again all
[02:20] <Rueshard> however I keep getting floating point exception when try to install during the hard drive detection process
[02:20] <darkcrab> for what seb
[02:21] <darkcrab> you mean driver
[02:21] <[seb] > ye
[02:21] <Rueshard> I have been tring to do this for the last two days now ..    :P
[02:21] <jj420> anyone??
[02:21] <pulseezar> new question: do I still need antivirus? If so any recommendations?
[02:21] <darkcrab> it should be one .inf file and another .sys file.
[02:21] <Rueshard> I have read just about everything I can find .... on installing
[02:21] <markofr> god damn ld is reporting me undefined references to my custom class i've dervied
[02:21] <jhou> [seb] ,  no idea
[02:21] <markofr> can someone help me with it
[02:21] <jhou> id try xp...
[02:22] <darkcrab> I was just about to say that jhou.lol
[02:22] <jhou> why though? i dont know lol
[02:22] <[seb] > their are 4 folders on the cd vista64, vista2k xp64 and xp2k all with drivers
[02:22] <annaimkonki> is there an alternative to vmware b/c vmware has a conflict with synaptic pkg manager
[02:22] <cafuego> !ohmy | markofr
[02:22] <ubotu> markofr: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:22] <kdubois> markofr: this isnt really the right chatroom for advanced programming help...
[02:22] <jhou> xp2k
[02:22] <markofr> ok :)
[02:22] <markofr> thanks anyway
[02:22] <Rueshard> any takers?
[02:23] <darkzero> Hey all
[02:23] <Wips> Is there some way I can reset the settings of samba to defaults?
[02:23] <[seb] > i open the inf nor sys right
[02:23] <kdubois> oh, and why are we flipping over what he said anyway?
[02:23] <darkcrab> pick the xp drivers seb
[02:23] <DM|> I have a USB HDD that refuses to let me change its readonly status, but knoppix was able to write to it,
[02:23] <jhou> yeah the inf
[02:23] <darkcrab> you need the .inf and the .sys
[02:23] <jhou> oh
[02:23] <darkcrab> but you use the .inf
[02:23] <jrib> DM|: what filesystem?
[02:23] <DM|> jrib vfat
[02:23] <jhou> : )
[02:23] <[seb] > ok it says hardware not pressent
[02:23] <pulseezar> new question: do I still need antivirus? If so any recommendations?
[02:23] <darkzero> Anyone here know a fix to totem-xine when playing a center avi file, it shows a green bar during playing on top
[02:24] <jrib> !vfat > DM| (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:24] <krumar> pulseezar: what do you mean still?
[02:24] <jj420> can anyone help me with this http://pastebin.com/m4de04f1a
[02:24] <pulseezar> i just changed from windows as of about 2 mins ago
[02:24] <darkcrab> welcome pul
[02:24] <pulseezar> i mean still now that I'm on ubuntu
[02:24] <krumar> pulseezar: so you are now on ubuntu
[02:24] <jrib> jj420: #ubuntu-effects for help with compiz
[02:25] <pulseezar> certainly am
[02:25] <krumar> pulseezar: you don't need antiviruse with linux
[02:25] <jj420> no one is alive in that channel
[02:25] <iamfuzz> join #ubuntu-testing
[02:25] <jhou> [seb] ,  type lspci in the gnome teriminal
[02:25] <[seb] > ok
[02:25] <pulseezar> are we all sure about that?
[02:25] <jrib> jj420: be patient
[02:25] <komputes> antivirus could be sefull to weed out windows viruses
[02:25] <[seb] > dont u mean lsusb
[02:25] <krumar> yes
[02:25] <DM|> jrib the thing is.. its mounting fine, but no matter what option i choose its still telling me that its read only
[02:25] <jj420> i asked for help 20 mins ago and no one has even typed a word
[02:25] <krumar> on linux your not going to get a virus, it was hard for me to accept to when i first changed over
[02:26] <pulseezar> cos a horrible virus is the reason i'm now on ubuntu!
[02:26] <jhou> oh
[02:26] <jhou> yeah
[02:26] <trip-trippin> well can anyone tell me how do i define the root file system???
[02:26] <jhou> tohguht uw ere on a dekstop using a pci card
[02:26] <pulseezar> so i'm a little jumpy right now!
[02:26] <komputes> if you are paranoid or play with windows kids read this
[02:26] <krumar> you also shouldn't need to worry about spyware
[02:26] <komputes> http://www.debianadmin.com/avast-antivirus-for-ubuntu-desktop.html
[02:26] <jhou> trip-trippin, click on the partion u want and at the mount point field enter "/"
[02:26] <[seb] > it is a desktop but with out ethernet and the router came with a usb adapter
[02:26] <jhou> ic ic
[02:26] <komputes> but basically ubuntu is safe out of the box and is updated, just update and you'll (probably) be fine
[02:27] <jhou> lsusb
[02:27] <[seb] > right i see my usb dongle
[02:27] <jrib> DM|: you need to set the umask
[02:27] <jhou> does it report the adapter?
[02:27] <mrj> pulseezar, you'll break ubuntu yourself, you don't need a virus to do it
[02:27] <[seb] > ye
[02:27] <pulseezar> lol
[02:27] <[seb] > 050d:8053
[02:27] <snollux> Hi. I can't log in via GDM. It says that it was unable to open my authorization file for writing. Which file is this, and what could cause it?
[02:27] <pulseezar> how about a firewall?
[02:27] <krumar> pulseezar: it's built in
[02:27] <jhou> ndiswrapper -l    reports hardware not present?
[02:27] <komputes> mrj - LOLS
[02:27] <krumar> you should get firestarter to configure it though
[02:28] <[seb] > do u want we to type that in?
[02:28] <darkcrab> ndiswrapper is specifically for when ubuntu does not report the hardware.
[02:28] <trip-trippin> jhou THANK YOU! finally!
[02:28] <pulseezar> firestarter cheers
[02:28] <DM|> jrib what should i put in
[02:28] <DM|> jrib nm got it
[02:28] <darkcrab> it is possible ndiswrapper does not support the drivers unless you have not installed them yet.
[02:29] <jrib> !support > jj420 (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:29] <jhou> wait a minute
[02:29] <propagandhi> gday people, I have an insmod command that I want to be run everytime I boot to load a module to the kernel with arguments. I know that it cant be place in /etc/modules because that uses modprobe and i cant provide arguments.
[02:29] <jhou> it might be the kernels loaded the wrong modules for it?
[02:29] <propagandhi> where can i set it up
[02:29] <komputes> irc://irc.freenode.net/pulseezar,isnick http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_to_Install_AVG_free_anti_virus_in_Ubuntu
[02:29] <[seb] > good god
[02:29] <darkcrab> yea, it is very important to get the modules running correctly.
[02:29] <[seb] > what do i do now
[02:30] <MasterShrek> propagandhi, you can add the command to /etc/rc.local
[02:30] <darkcrab> did ndiswrapper install your drivers seb
[02:30] <[seb] > ye it installed them but says the hareware aint their
[02:30] <jhou> yeah but its not detecting thehwardware
[02:30] <pulseezar> thanks komputes
[02:30] <MasterShrek> propagandhi, but it wont be loaded until right before gdm starts or right after, somewhere near the end of the boot sequence
[02:30] <jhou> u know what
[02:30] <jhou> try
[02:30] <komputes> thats another one pulseezar, as you can see not very famous because people on linux ae smart enough not to get viruses. they are almost non-existent
[02:30] <jhou> the other folders on the cd
[02:30] <jhou> wont hurt
[02:30] <[seb] > ok
[02:30] <darkcrab> hold on one sec seb
[02:30] <krumar> pulseezar: i would recommend taking a look online about viruses on linux
[02:31] <trip-trippin> how the swap partition is marked?
[02:31] <propagandhi> MasterShrek: lol, woops i definitely should have thought of that, sorry I've been working on this for about 9 hours now. I'm wondering if that will be timely enough but its worth a shot
[02:31] <Nikster> i have an issue with ubuntu, i updated to 7.10, and after that, 3d is running really jittery.. going from 1300 to 150 fps in glx gears, and it says direct rendering is not on, anyone have an idea what to do?
[02:31] <krumar> you'll see just why you don't need an antivirus
[02:31] <pulseezar> one thing, firestarters download page says that the ubuntu version is for 5.04 and i'm pretty sure i'm on 7.04. HOw much will that matter?
[02:31] <propagandhi> Nikster: whats ur gfx card
[02:31] <krumar> pulseezare
[02:31] <[seb] > 3% batter left lol im off to get charger
[02:31] <PriceChild> pulseezar, don't get it from there
[02:32] <c0rrupt0r> pulseezar: viruses are programmed to attack microsoft OS's
[02:32] <PriceChild> pulseezar, ubuntu has its own repositories.
[02:32] <Nikster> GeForce 2
[02:32] <krumar> pulseezar: do this, and the command line type 'sudo apt-get install firestarter'
[02:32] <Nikster> worked fine until i updated
[02:32] <jhou> [seb] , does lsmod show a rt73usb loaded?
[02:32] <DM|> jrib well that didnt work, everything is root/root AND read only
[02:32] <PriceChild> pulseezar, You should not randomly find programs off the net and install them like you would on "other os's"
[02:32] <darkcrab> seb use this as a guide and make sure you did all these commands: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512828&highlight=ndiswrapper
[02:32] <jrib> DM|: pastebin your fstab
[02:32] <darkcrab> seb start from install windows driveres
[02:33] <[seb] > hu what
[02:33] <DM|> jrib this is the line /dev/sdc1        /media/external vfat user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0       0
[02:33] <darkcrab> the link I just sent you seb
[02:33] <Nikster> also, my Wlan card dont work properly with the 7.10 kernel, i have to use my old one to get online
[02:33] <jrib> DM|: did you remount it?
[02:33] <[seb] > i did it via .debs
[02:33] <DM|> jrib yep
[02:34] <pulseezar> done
[02:34] <jhou> [seb] ,  tyle lsmod in the gnome terminal
[02:34] <DM|> sudo mount -a jrib
[02:34] <darkcrab> yes I know that!
[02:34] <jdoherty> haha
[02:34] <jhou> lsmod
[02:34] <pulseezar> no idea how that worked though
[02:34] <[seb] > hold on
[02:34] <jrib> DM|: that won't do it
[02:34] <darkcrab> but read the fricken thread on installing your drivers via terminal
[02:34] <c0rrupt0r> pulseezar: go into your system at top then to administrations and then click on synaptic package manager and do a search for firestarter then right click and mark as install then apply
[02:34] <darkcrab> you cannot just install ndiswrapper and BAM! your online
[02:34] <DM|> jrib o ?
[02:35] <[seb] > lsmod shows alot of stuff what am i looking for
[02:35] <ScottAS> Is there an Ubuntu Linux Community / Off Topic IRC Channel?
[02:35] <chuck> join #ubuntu-pnw
[02:35] <jrib> ScottAS: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:35] <darkcrab> you know what, nvmd, do it yourself seb
[02:35] <ScottAS> Thank you.
[02:35] <krumar> pulseezar: if you go to system => administartion => synaptic package manager, that is the gui for how most things get installed in linux
[02:35] <jhou> ra73usb [seb] 
[02:35] <krumar> you should learn it well
[02:36] <Nikster> can anyone tell me how to kill X so i can get into bash and install new nvidia drivers?
[02:36] <[seb] > not there
[02:36] <pulseezar> nice one, might have taken me a while to find that!
[02:36] <jhou> rt73usb
[02:36] <jhou> sorry
[02:36] <[seb] > oh
[02:36] <jhou> its not suppsoed ot be there
[02:36] <Crav> i seem to have deleted my system tray (where things like gaim reside) how can i get it back?
[02:36] <jhou> which is good i guess
[02:36] <pulseezar> ok i'm off for a restart see you all in a couple of mins
[02:36] <krumar> good luck
[02:37] <DM|> jrib help me out :(
[02:37] <localgod12> hello
[02:37] <DM|> jrib its mounted now, all files belong to me, still say readonly
[02:37] <[seb] > nope not their
[02:37] <jrib> DM|: umount  first
[02:37] <localgod12> logged in as root?
[02:38] <DM|> jrib says its busy... ugh
[02:38] <jhou> [seb] ,  hmm let me look
[02:38] <localgod12> can someone asnwer a stupid question for me?
[02:38] <DM|> jrib ok its umounted
[02:38] <[seb] > ndis has installed rt2870 drivers
[02:39] <krumar> localgod12: just ask it
[02:39] <jrib> DM|: then mount -a again
[02:39] <[seb] > and it says via comandline it is pressent
[02:39] <[seb] > via gui it aint
[02:39] <DM|> jrib kk one sec
[02:39] <pulseezar> holy cow that was quick
[02:39] <localgod12> i am trying to install VMware and i cant et past the EULA
[02:39] <Avariel> join /#math
[02:39] <Bunny_> sdfs
[02:39] <Tb0n3> :(tell me please, how the hell can I get gps SIRF-III working on ubuntu
[02:39] <krumar> localgod12: sorry, i can't help there
[02:39] <Tb0n3> :(
[02:40] <c0rrupt0r> yep pulseezar linux is way faster than microsoft lol
[02:40] <darkcrab> what is SIRF-III?
[02:40] <gokhan__> can i enable my wireless card with a command instead of using Fn + FN combinations?
[02:40] <[seb] > ooooh the dongle is flashing abit wich it want befor
[02:40] <localgod12> let me put this a different wasy
[02:40] <localgod12> i cant figure out how to click ok on the EULA
[02:40] <localgod12> its runing in terminal
[02:40] <[seb] > YAY it works jsut the gay gui didnt see it COMAND LINE RULES
[02:40] <krumar> localgod12: try to use the space bar
[02:41] <localgod12> i click ok i hit enter nothn
[02:41] <pulseezar> thing is, now i'm going to have to reinstall windows on my other drive for games...:(
[02:41] <PriceChild> [seb] , Please don't use gay as a derogatory term in this channel.
[02:41] <localgod12> no
[02:41] <jhou> [seb] ,
[02:41] <localgod12> just stares at me mockingly
[02:41] <jhou> good stuff
[02:41] <[seb] > sorry
[02:41] <jhou> lol
[02:41] <krumar> localgod12: what buttons have you tried
[02:41] <HP_Administrator> can anyone help me?
[02:41] <jhou> i dindt know there was a gui for it
[02:41] <localgod12> enter, button 1, spacebar
[02:41] <[seb] > jhou thanks for every thing you were very helpful
[02:41] <jhou> np
[02:41] <DM|> jrib again, everything is owned by me, but it still says read only
[02:42] <krumar> localgod12: tab maybe?
[02:42] <[seb] > ye the 3 packages were common utils and gui
[02:42] <c0rrupt0r> pulseezar: there is Ubuntu Ultimate gamers edition also.
[02:42] <PriceChild> Hey all, trying to mount a squashfs file. works fine with mount foo.sq foo -t squashfs -o loop, however adding to fstab with squashfs ro,defaults     0 0, yields no joy. Any ideas?
[02:42] <jrib> DM|: ls -ld /media/external
[02:42] <rjcmc> localgod12 - try 'tabbing' to the EULA window [ok]  and hit spacebar.
[02:42] <localgod12> that did it
[02:42] <localgod12> thanks it was really drivn me nuts
[02:42] <pulseezar> hmmmm
[02:42] <DM|> jrib drwxrwxrwx 21 dm root 16384 1969-12-31 19:00 /media/external
[02:42] <PriceChild> Gives "foo is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)"
[02:42] <pulseezar> i'll give it a google
[02:42] <[seb] > but i know go to get it to work lol
[02:42] <darkcrab> Ubuntu Ultimate Gamers Edition?
[02:43] <jrib> DM|: then you can write to it
[02:43] <DM|> jrib its not letting me
[02:43] <jhou> [seb] ,  hoepfully it'll be there when u reboot : P
[02:43] <c0rrupt0r> http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/
[02:43] <DM|> jrib hold on
[02:43] <jrib> DM|: press "reload"
[02:43] <[seb] > ah how do i get ndis do loa don boot
[02:44] <DM|> !pastebin
[02:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:44] <DM|> jrib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40319/
[02:44] <FFighter> hey folks
[02:44] <[seb] > um its not connecting
[02:44] <FFighter> How to enable LCD sub-pixel font rendering on FluxBox?
[02:45] <FFighter> It doesn't seem to be using sub-pixel renderign
[02:45] <jhou> [seb] , uh oh
[02:45] <jrib> DM|: pastebin 'mount'
[02:45] <jhou> type dmesg
[02:45] <jhou> at the console
[02:45] <[seb] > ye
[02:45] <DM|> jrib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40320/
[02:45] <Xenosyn> can someone help me?
[02:45] <jhou> ur using that lil networkmanger applet on the top menu bar right [seb]   ?
[02:46] <[seb] > ye
[02:46] <PriceChild> Hey all, trying to mount a squashfs file. works fine with mount foo.sq foo -t squashfs -o loop, however adding to fstab with squashfs ro,defaults     0 0, yields Gives "foo is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)" Any ideas?
[02:46] <jhou> yeah in the gnome termtinal type "iwconfig"
[02:46] <jrib> DM|: weird
[02:46] <[seb] > oh it works now after retyping the pass
[02:46] <Xenosyn> ..
[02:46] <jhou> lol
[02:46] <riotk> argh.
[02:46] <DM|> jrib when i booted up knoppix to test, it could write to it just fine
[02:47] <jhou> so its online?
[02:47] <DM|> jrib and i know its not just gutsy, because my edgy box did the same thing
[02:47] <[seb] > ok so will it remeber all the drivers and load on boot?
[02:47] <[seb] > and ye im online
[02:47] <Xenosyn> can you guys see what im typing?
[02:47] <jrib> DM|: well it says 'rw' :/
[02:47] <jhou> okay
[02:47] <riotk> Xenosyn: yes\
[02:47] <jhou> uh
[02:47] <jhou> lets see
[02:47] <DM|> jrib think a reformat will fix it?
[02:47] <pulseezar> is there an ubuntu version of windows "minimise to task bar"?
[02:47] <[seb] > hold on il log on on the pc
[02:47] <jrib> DM|: no idea.  check dmesg
[02:47] <PriceChild> pulseezar, bottom left ;)
[02:47] <FFighter> any suggestions?
[02:47] <Xenosyn> oh ok anyone not busy that can help me?
[02:48] <PriceChild> Xenosyn, have you asked a question?
[02:48] <darkcrab> you can configure the gnome desktop however you like pulseezar
[02:48] <Xenosyn> no
[02:48] <DM|> jrib hmm   fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 2441347) [ 1555.228000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sdc1)
[02:48] <[seb] > um what linux irc apps are in the package manager
[02:48] <wolfsong> how do I configure individual screensavers?
[02:48] <darkcrab> omg, get x-chat or bitchx
[02:48] <jhou> [seb]  secitno 3.3
[02:48] <darkcrab> my two favorite.
[02:48] <jhou> of that article
[02:48] <Xenosyn> umm I have a record boot error when I start my linux how can I fix that?
[02:48] <c0rrupt0r> x-chat rocks
[02:48] <DM|> darkcrab bitchx?
[02:49] <jhou> lol
[02:49] <darkcrab> DM, of course bitchx:)
[02:49] <[seb] > wich article
[02:49] <riotk> D:
[02:49] <darkcrab> its based on irssi
[02:49] <jhou> the first one
[02:49] <jhou> uh
[02:49] <[seb] > ok i know wich one
[02:49] <darkcrab> I mean ircii
[02:49] <jhou> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-6a606ccd9c2c4db72ac726891bd5d7cbaf8097de
[02:49] <DM|> darkcrab ah, i cant do that lol
[02:49] <[seb] > ye
[02:49] <DM|> jrib any idea? maybe a corrupt HDD?
[02:50] <darkcrab> lol
[02:50] <Xenosyn> I got a Boot record error can some one help me fix it??
[02:50] <[seb] > section 3.3 is downloading windows drivers
[02:50] <jrib> DM|: maybe.  have not seen that before
[02:50] <PriceChild> Hey all, trying to mount a squashfs file. works fine with mount foo.sq foo -t squashfs -o loop, however adding to fstab with squashfs ro,defaults     0 0, yields Gives "foo is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)" Any ideas?
[02:50] <jhou> oh
[02:50] <jhou> lol
[02:50] <[seb] > lol
[02:50] <jhou> 3.7
[02:51] <[seb] > ok
[02:51] <jhou> auto load at startrup
[02:51] <Xenosyn> please anyone??
[02:51] <DIL> Xenosyn: try ultimate boot cd it may have tools to assist
[02:51] <[seb] > im gona swich from laptop to pc to save space
[02:52] <[seb] > can u re-send me the link when im on the pc
[02:52] <pulseezar> mmmmmmm it's still in the taskbar area, i just want it to hide in a corner and do it's stuff
[02:52] <[seb] > ok cya in a sec
[02:53] <jhou> k
[02:54] <LjL> PriceChild: may you ned simply need to add "loop", to the "ro,defaults" column?
[02:54] <LjL> s/ned/not/
[02:54] <seb__> back
[02:55] <jhou> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-6a606ccd9c2c4db72ac726891bd5d7cbaf8097de
[02:55] <pulseezar> so im on the package manager looking at a list of bit comet clients, which ones are good? I used to use utorrent.
[02:55] <b0nza1> hmm
[02:55] <PriceChild> LjL, yay :)
[02:55] <seb__> thanks for every thing jhou
[02:55] <jhou> pulseezar, torrent flux!
[02:55] <PriceChild> LjL, thanks lots :)
[02:55] <jhou> np
[02:55] <komputes> Has anyone been able to use Video Conference on MSN through WINE?
[02:55] <komputes> Pidgin doesnt offer it
[02:55] <LjL> PriceChild: thank my metabot, i wouldn't have seen your question otherwise :P
[02:55] <PriceChild> LjL, haha nice one! :D
[02:56] <seb__> irc is so much better than forums i would still be explaining my problem on the forums
[02:56] <yellow_chicken> where is the package for seamonkey?
[02:56] <jhou> seb__, or u can just google for the right page on the forum : P
[02:57] <komputes> Video....conf....anyone......buler....buler....
[02:57] <yellow_chicken> looking for composer to create html code
[02:57] <seb__> i did google i couldnt find any thing
[02:57] <jhou> yeah its hard when u dont kjnwo what ur googling for
[02:57] <komputes> OMG, seamonkey screwed a simple HTML page
[02:57] <seb__> lol
[02:57] <seb__> y are there 2 __ after my nick
[02:58] <DIL> some using ur name
[02:58] <seb__> oh
[02:58] <komputes> serioustly seamonkey, the online version of the page listed all the links as local links
[02:58] <FatalCure> seb__: because there's a seb and a seb_ already i guess
[02:58] <komputes> so nobody with Linux uses videoconferencing, is that what I'm to understand....
[02:58] <rjcmc> yellow_chicken - 'bluefish' is a good html editor.
[02:59] <seb__> that most probably the me that was on a sec ago on the laptop lol
[02:59] <yellow_chicken> rjcmc: ok thanks, but what happened to mozilla?
[02:59] <rjcmc> komputes - install vlc
[02:59] <yellow_chicken> it's not listed in distrowatch
[02:59] <komputes> VLC can do videoconferencing???
[02:59] <cafuego> komputes: Lots of people do, just not necessarily via MSN.
[02:59] <cafuego> komputes: ekiga, does *standards* based conferencing.
[02:59] <komputes> has anyone been able to to MSN VC through WINE?
[02:59] <rjcmc> yellow_chicken - mozilla is many things, what do you refer to?
[03:00] <komputes> vut please, if VLC does videoconf please send a tutorial to do it
[03:00] <yellow_chicken> mozilla seamonkey, the composer, rjcmc
[03:00] <komputes> i'm interested
[03:00] <seb__> jhou, it gives me this when i type ndiswrapper -m
[03:01] <seb__> module configuration already contains alias directive
[03:01] <rjcmc> yellow_chicken - i'm not familiar w/it. Bluefish is more powerful i would bet.
[03:01] <yellow_chicken> rjcmc: just installed bluefish, how to switch tag, to see html , i am currently in design view
[03:02] <Tb0n3> thanks alot shitbags
[03:02] <komputes> hey hey watch the language there
[03:02] <komputes> my cat is watching
[03:02] <komputes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoLan_VideoConference
[03:02] <seb__> lol
[03:02] <komputes> incredible, cool never heard of it, Thanks RJCMC!
[03:03] <rjcmc> komputes - my pleasure.
[03:03] <seb__> jhou: i get this when i type ndiswrapper -m module configuration already contains alias directive
[03:03] <lee__> erg I need gusty
[03:03] <lee__> lol bot wahts the channel for gutsy
[03:04] <lee__> oh this update was a real piec of work
[03:04] <pulseezar> how do i configure gnome?
[03:04] <jj420> is there no one here that knows how to fix this?http://pastebin.com/m4de04f1a
[03:04] <seb__> jhou: am i ment to be doing 3.7 or 3.7.1
[03:05] <komputes> wild guess, install XGL
[03:05] <jj420> k
[03:05] <lee__> wahts the e cahnnel for gutsy?
[03:05] <dennda> how can i change the keyboard layout that gnome-terminal uses? this is icewm, so i have no graphical interface for this
[03:05] <dennda> lee__: #ubuntu] 1
[03:05] <lee__> ty
[03:05] <dennda> lee__: #ubuntu+1
[03:06] <jrib> dennda: setxkbmap or use xorg.conf
[03:06] <angelp> Hello can someone help me with a problem I am having?
[03:06] <dimeotane> anyone know the minimum requirements to install the edgy command line system only?
[03:07] <tom__> !ask
[03:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:07] <lee__> wrong channel no one there lol
[03:07] <tom__> dimeotane: not sure sorry, what system have you got?
[03:07] <gokhan__> can i enable my wireless card with a command instead of using Fn + FN combinations?
[03:08] <DIL> ask your ? angelp
[03:08] <angelp> I am trying to get data of a CD I have just MP3 an i get this error Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'.
[03:08] <dennda> jrib: what would i type in xorg.conf?
[03:08] <dimeotane> ACutally it's the feisty: "Ubuntu Feisty Alternate" CD that gives the option for a command line system
[03:08] <tom__> angelp: why are you trying to mount it, why not just stick it in
[03:08] <tussey> anyone here deccent with php?
[03:08] <dimeotane> I'm wanting to build an ubuntu lite system
[03:08] <angelp> Thats what it says when I stick it in
[03:08] <tom__> dimeotane: what are the specs of your system
[03:09] <tom__> angelp: hmm
[03:09] <Flannel> dimeotane: The installer requires something like 32MB of RAM to install.
[03:09] <DIL> tom__!!!
[03:09] <tony> I need help with opening RAR files please.
[03:09] <jrib> dennda: I do not know offhand
[03:09] <^Ocean^> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUQ_nja39c  <-- Whats he useing for the aplication launcer panel at the Bottom  ?
[03:09] <projecttt> does anyone know of a good file recovery software that will keep original file names and nnot rename everything file1.jpg file2.jpg and so on?
[03:09] <phaedra> angelp, I had that problem with DVD's and had to replace the udf,iso9660 entry in the fstab to auto to mount them...
[03:09] <tom__> DIL: sorry?
[03:09] <Jagett> I'm a new ubun2 user--I need help getting wine to work.
[03:10] <tom__> Jagett: what program are you trying to run
[03:10] <Jagett> Just aim or similar windows .exe
[03:11] <DM|> in gutsy, for rythymbox i get the following error Unable to activate plugin Portable Players - iPod
[03:11] <angelp> thanks I ll try that Phaedra
[03:11] <tom__> Jagett: have you installed the latest wine
[03:11] <Flannel> Jagett: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine  will give you everything you need to know.  For AIM though, you're probably better off just going native, with something like GAIM
[03:11] <komputes> GAIM is now PIDGIN
[03:11] <komputes> jj420: dunno how, never done it but check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[03:11] <jrib> dennda: 'man kbd' suggests XkbLayout
[03:11] <darkcrab> when is ubuntu going to upgrade to pidgin?
[03:12] <jrib> !timebasedreleases > darkcrab (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:12] <basotl> You might check out program equivalents Jagett http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software
[03:12] <komputes> 7.10 i think, in a week?
[03:12] <darkcrab> k
[03:12] <Jagett> I understand I must insert code into the trusted apt, but I require guidance in doing so
[03:12] <steve1> Does anyone here have Wolfenstein:ET working on linux here?
[03:13] <pulseezar> which folder should I use as a "my documents" type place
[03:14] <steve1> ot
[03:14] <LinuxJuggalo> !pidgin | darkcrab
[03:14] <ubotu> darkcrab: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[03:14] <astro76> pulseezar, your /home/user/, aka ~/
[03:14] <pulseezar> there seems to be a lot of random folers with three letter names knocking around...
[03:15] <komputes> your usr forlder or a folder on the desktop called My Documents if you have windowz feever
[03:15] <PinkFloyd> !fortune
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fortune - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <PinkFloyd> hm
[03:15] <PinkFloyd> Does anyone know where the fortune command originates
[03:15] <darkcrab> ok, thank you linuxjuggalo
[03:16] <cfedde> PinkFloyd: where it originates?  what it's history is?
[03:17] <PinkFloyd> No I mean where the command pulls the quotes from
[03:17] <Vimto> guys when install the system does the desktop appear on time? or i just get the background first and it will keep installing everything else?
[03:17] <Jagett> for linux I want the "source" of pidgen?
[03:17] <PinkFloyd> Jagett there's a deb of Pidgin on getdeb.net
[03:17] <cfedde> usr/share/doc/fortune-*
[03:18] <PinkFloyd> ok thanks
[03:18] <riotkittie-> I installed another distro and could not manage to get GRUB to boot it for me. That  distro uses LILO, and I attempted to install it to the superblock of that distro's partition. It overwrote my mbr :|  I am trying to recover grub. I have never had issues doing this before but
[03:18] <cfedde> PinkFloyd: see also locate fortune
[03:18] <bkruse_home> hey guys, do you guys have any suggestion for a website to do logo's/banners/ etc etc?
[03:18] <komputes> How to compile PIDGIN: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404508
[03:18] <riotkittie-> now i am gettirg "Error 18: selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" :(
[03:18] <PinkFloyd> Dont compile Pidgin, just install the deb from getdeb.net
[03:19] <PinkFloyd> much simpler plus it comes with plugins
[03:19] <Vimto> bkruse_home show me your website
[03:19] <ChaosParser> riotkittie-: Just boot a livecd and reinstall grub.
[03:19] <komputes> probably
[03:19] <LinuxJuggalo> !offtopic | bkruse_home
[03:19] <ubotu> bkruse_home: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:19] <riotkittie-> ChaosParser: is that different from the whole sudo grub > root > setup  song and dance
[03:19] <Gray_Auk> Howdy
[03:20] <Vimto> i havent got any folders on the desktop
[03:20] <Vimto> does it mean its still installing?
[03:20] <Gray_Auk> hi SR71 .. did you used to have any connection to that Lockheed  bird?
[03:20] <localgod12> can some tell me what Unable to open: Virtual machine "/home/localgod11/windows.vmx" is not in the inventory. means?
[03:20] <DM|> If you have no plugins for rhythmbox how can u get any
[03:21] <localgod12> please?
[03:21] <LinuxJuggalo> Vimto: no, after ubuntu is installed that is the default look, clean with no directories/icons on the desktop
[03:21] <FatalCure> DM|: what are you trying to play?
[03:22] <ChaosParser> riotkittie-: Yeah.  Its reinstalling grub to the MBR instead of reconfiguring it.  Reconfiguring the contents isn't going to do crap if its not installed to the MBR properly.
[03:22] <Vimto> LinuxJuggalo im always rebooting ang get the same error here!
[03:22] <FatalCure> DM|: mp3?
[03:22] <LinuxJuggalo> Vimto: what error?
[03:22] <localgod12> u sure its an mp3?
[03:22] <localgod12> not a wma?
[03:22] <Vimto> LinuxJuggalo its says some things, such as themes, sounds or background may not work correctly!
[03:22] <riotkittie-> ChaosParser: and i use grub-install as opposed to install from the grub shell?
[03:23] <localgod12> can some tell me what Unable to open: Virtual machine "/home/localgod11/windows.vmx" is not in the inventory. means?
[03:23] <ChaosParser> riotkittie-: Yep.  Then just make sure the entries are right, and you should be fine.
[03:23] <Vimto> LinuxJuggalo i have heard the sound at the beginning! so it works!
[03:23] <LinuxJuggalo> Vimto: do you have compiz-fusion enabled? A.K.A. "desktop effects"? some video cards do not support this feature enabled
[03:24] <Vimto> LinuxJuggalo i actually installing on my laptop!
[03:25] <localgod12> can some tell me what Unable to open: Virtual machine "/home/localgod11/windows.vmx" is not in the inventory. means?
[03:25] <pulseezar> ok I have to get some sleep now, thanks loads for the help and advice everyone. night night
[03:25] <Vimto> LinuxJuggalo the disc keep running for hours without getting the system installed !
[03:27] <LinuxJuggalo> Vimto: and the live cd is not displaying the install icon?
[03:27] <DM|> is there a channel for Banshee
[03:28] <Vimto> LinuxJuggalo i get something like banner on the screen and it fastly goes!
[03:28] <Vimto> i get 3 icons on it i think!
[03:29] <LinuxJuggalo> Vimto: click on the install icon, it should look like a hard disk drive
[03:29] <Vimto> i dont have this !
[03:30] <jirwin> hey there. It would seem that NM is causing me not to get DHCP in gutsy with my intel 4965. Is there anyway to diable it?
[03:30] <Vimto> bkruse_home i would be glad to work with you but i cant use the pvt for now
[03:30] <jirwin> I can associate and scan with no problems
[03:31] <LT1Caprice57L> any ideas on why a GTK theme that worked fine in Feisty wouldn't work right in Gutsy?
[03:31] <LT1Caprice57L> in my case, it's only one that doesn't work properly anymore
[03:31] <LT1Caprice57L> all the rest do
[03:31] <Flannel> LT1Caprice57L: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support, thanks
[03:31] <wims> !virtualbox > wims
[03:32] <LT1Caprice57L> ty flannel
[03:34] <locke> im about to install a linksys wmp54g v4.1 in this box that i just installed 7.04 freshly on, and the hardware compatibiliy page says this about it "Works only in Feisty if you put to "blacklist" the "rt61pci" module BEFORE install the card. If not, your computer will freeze often. There is an other module: "rt61" it works fine, with WEP too."
[03:34] <locke> how do i blacklist rt61pci
[03:34] <Polygon89> Hello, has anyone successfully gotten electricsheep screensaver to run in fullscreen in ubuntu? its only running at like 640x400 resolution for me.
[03:35] <LinuxJuggalo> !pidgin > LinuxJuggalo
[03:37] <NotSure> ok, how do i enter any unicode character w/o char table?
[03:37] <NotSure> like u+00AC ?
[03:38] <NotSure> ok, how do i enter any unicode character w/o char table?
[03:38] <Jagett> what does it do to press the [Revert]  button?
[03:38] <NotSure> it is unusually quite here?
[03:38] <NotSure> usually it is like a tavern in this place
[03:38] <Pelo> NotSure, you mean like alt+1224 ?  ascii codes in windows ?  if you figure it out let me know , I've been looking for a year
[03:38] <NotSure> anyway, how can I enter any custom unicode character just from the keybard w/o using char table
[03:38] <NotSure> yes Pelo!
[03:39] <NotSure> exactly!
[03:39] <Pelo> NotSure, not sure you can, sorry
[03:39] <Jagett> It would seem to be some sort of a [Ok]  button, but I need to hear it from experienced ppl
[03:39] <NotSure> Let's burn the fire about this issue on this channel
[03:39] <Pelo> NotSure, been there, done that ,  several times
[03:39] <riotkittie-> argh.
[03:39] <Davy_Jones> /J #politics
[03:39] <Davy_Jones> opps
[03:39] <NotSure> Let's make a huge funk out of it, rotten stink
[03:40] <NotSure> because it is enough by now
[03:40] <NotSure> i cannot enter a unicode character knowing its code!
[03:40] <NotSure> Ridiculous!
[03:40] <Pelo> NotSure,  it works in console mode but not in the gui
[03:40] <NotSure> ?
[03:40] <NotSure> how in konsole?
[03:41] <riotkittie-> ok. i am going to reboot. hopefully the 93949th time is a charm  :(
[03:41] <Jagett> Anyone wish to answer my stupid question?
[03:41] <Pelo> NotSure,  not konsole, consol,  command line interface,    crtl+alt+f2-f5 ,  crtl+alt+f7 to come back
[03:41] <NotSure> Jegett, what happened?
[03:41] <Pelo> Jagett, I just came it , what was you question ?
[03:41] <godzirra> Is there a good irc client that is for X, besides xchat?  I wasn't a huge fan.
[03:42] <Jagett> What effect does the [revert]  button have assigned to it?
[03:42] <Jagett> It regresses ?
[03:42] <Pelo> godzirra, konversation ,  but check in synaptic to see what is available
[03:42] <Davy_Jones> !gnash
[03:42] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[03:42] <Pelo> Jagett,  what revert button, where do you see this ?
[03:43] <NotSure> ok, folks, how to enter a custom unicode character in a text editor w/o resorting to the help of character table?
[03:43] <Jagett> I'm on version 4.1 first of all
[03:43] <Pelo> Jagett, get the latest realease or at the very least 6.06 it would be a lot easier to give you advice
[03:44] <Jagett> How do I go about acquiring the Feisty Fawn?
[03:44] <LjL> Jagett: you'd download it from http://www.ubuntu.com - most likely
[03:44] <gchase> I've got a problem with my dell inspiron 6000 not properly going into s3 or s4
[03:44] <Pelo> Jagett,  there are links for dl or the iso of the cd on the main site  www.ubuntu.com
[03:45] <Pelo> gchase, start by looking up your model in this link see if anything is mentionned  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:45] <NotSure> ok, folks, how to enter a custom unicode character in a text editor w/o resorting to the help of character table?
[03:45] <Davy_Jones> the Feisty Fawn
[03:45] <Davy_Jones> bow down
[03:45] <jtt> anyone know what pkg i need to resolve  /usr/bin/esd not found for feisty
[03:45] <lumpycow> anybody know where the ".B" file is for the blender preferences in linux(ubuntu)?
[03:45] <Pelo> NotSure,  were you paying attention when i was talking to you earlier,  you can't do it in gui , only in cli mode
[03:45] <Jagett> is there a way to simply update linux? similar to windows update
[03:46] <Jagett> but for linux
[03:46] <LjL> Jagett: it's done automatically by default.
[03:46] <Pelo> lumpycow,  most likely in /home/username  ,  type crtl+H to see the hidden folder   ( names with a dot before them are hidden)
[03:46] <bastid_raZor> Jagett: in a terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:46] <rav> Ok, i have recently been given a Nvidia 6200 PCI (not APG or PCI-E) and i cannnot install the damn thing. I have had to reinstall ubuntu 4 (yes FOUR) times because i always end up with the same error, and i cannot reconfigure xserver to get it back to normal so i can even ask for help here.
[03:46] <rav> So i have my onboard card, (works fine) then i have the nvidia one. I installed fiesty from the livecd using my onboard, then when it was running i used the restricted drivers to enable it. and after i do that, the Xserver wont boot on ANY card, with the nvidia one, ubuntu wont boot passed the third orange bar, and with the onboard card i get this MESSED up error saying something like, the xserver is not configured correctly...
[03:46] <rav> Right now im using my LIVECD to write this... The recovery menu ONLY works with the ONBOARD card, not the nvidia one.
[03:46] <xjkx> ubuntu refuses to boot, because its kernel does not have the driver of my IDE hd, is there something i can do?
[03:46] <NotSure> Pelo, you mean it is literally impossible in the GUI mode? You mean this is for fact?
[03:46] <Jagett> So my ver 4.1 should automatically update to 7 >_>
[03:46] <Davy_Jones> the update manager tells me there are 71 new updates
[03:46] <Davy_Jones> but i refuse to do them
[03:47] <LjL> Jagett: erm, no. that's not what you asked: Windows 98 (for instance) won't magically upgrade to Windows Xp
[03:47] <Pelo> Jagett,  update are default , upgrades are another tying,  changing versions are upgrades and you can'T go from 4.1 to 7.04 in one go , get the cd  trust me
[03:47] <LjL> Jagett: you *can* upgrade to a newer distribution, but if it's Warty that you have, you're better off reinstalling from scratch
[03:47] <tritium> rav: try disabling the on-board video in the BIOS
[03:47] <rav> ive done that, thats how i switch from one to another, but that does not work
[03:47] <Pelo> Davy_Jones, why are you refusing updates ?
[03:48] <bastid_raZor> Jagett: oh, dist upgrade.. in a terminal gksu "update-manger -c -d"
[03:48] <savetheWorld> !ubotu
[03:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:48] <godzirra> Pelo: I've never used synaptic. :) I'm an old debian guy.. heh.
[03:48] <Delphinus> Jagett: what part of the world are you from?
[03:48] <Jagett> ah so just burn the 7.04 cd, reformat this partition, and install the updated one?
[03:48] <Pelo> NotSure, I mean I've looked for over a year, couldnT' find anywway to do it , no one could tell me how and no one else I've seen looking for a way to do it found one
[03:48] <Davy_Jones> Pelo: because it tells me the download size is 145.1 MB... i don't have that much space
[03:48] <lumpycow> thanks Pelo, I see the file now.
[03:48] <Delphinus> Jagett: yes, but backup data before format
[03:49] <Pelo> godzirra,   apt-cache search keyword then
[03:49] <Jagett> I'm definitely from Bethel University in MN, USA
[03:49] <Jagett> studying CS; I'm a freshman
[03:49] <Pelo> Davy_Jones,  those files will replace exisiting ones , at least do the kernel and security updates
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Davy_Jones: how big is your var apt cache archive folder?
[03:49] <Davy_Jones> Pelo: besides, 145MB of only compressed packages feels like bloatware to me
[03:49] <Jagett> What good is backup for?
[03:49] <Delphinus> Jagett: are you downloading the 7.04 iso?
[03:49] <bastid_raZor> Davy_Jones: you are funny
[03:49] <Vimto> this is soo bad!
[03:50] <riotkittie> bizarre. so totally bizarre.
[03:50] <tritium> Jagett: for when you lose valuable data
[03:50] <Vimto> im not getting install icon!
[03:50] <Jagett> I just installed this partition at beginning of september, but was too busy to work with it
[03:50] <rav> any other suggestions
[03:50] <Pelo> Vimto,   check in menu > system > ADMIN
[03:50] <Davy_Jones> Jack_Sparrow: i'm not sure, but i know it's like 98 percent full
[03:50] <bastid_raZor> Davy_Jones: in terminal type df -h
[03:50] <NotSure> Pelo, I suggest you don't give up so easily, perhaps there is a way but we just need to coordinate our efforts and find it (google is of no help)
[03:50] <Jagett> So this is just as the default which the CD installs
[03:50] <Pelo> Jagett,  if you have no data or settings you wish to keep donT' backup then
[03:50] <bastid_raZor> Davy_Jones: that will tell you you space
[03:50] <Vimto> pelo i cant even move the mouse!
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Davy_Jones: you can burn that folder to a cd or dvd for future use and free up a fair amount of space
[03:51] <Vimto> pelo whats the problem!
[03:51] <riotkittie> Vimto: how much RAM do you have?
[03:51] <Vimto> should i wait for it or what?
[03:51] <Vimto> 512
[03:51] <Pelo> Vimto, tell me about your computer
[03:51] <gchase> pelo, according to the Inspiron 6000 page from that linked resource, sleep and hibernate are supposed to work with feisty and I haven't changed anything that wasn't factory-installed
[03:51] <Davy_Jones> Jack_Sparrow: heh, already done that
[03:51] <Vimto> its p 4 with 2Ghz
[03:52] <Davy_Jones> Jack_Sparrow: i got a 40GB slave drive.. i'm waiting for 7.1 to be out
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Davy_Jones: with 500 gig drives going for $95 it isnt a huge problem
[03:52] <Davy_Jones> Jack_Sparrow: then i'll install it on the 40GB drive
[03:52] <Pelo> gchase,  so nothign relating to your problem ok  you can also check in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org , I'm sorry I can'T help any further , ask again periodicaly maybe someone else will know , or try on different days
[03:52] <UnaCoder> Hey, I'm trying to add some customizations to the "init" script in my initrd file.  Just as a simple experiment I commented out the lines that switch over to the real root directory and launch a shell
[03:52] <rav> How do install a nvidia card from a recovery menu
[03:52] <Pelo> Vimto, usb mouse maybe ?
[03:52] <Davy_Jones> Jack_Sparrow: i'll consider upgrading me hardware
[03:53] <Vimto> pelo no its a laptop
[03:53] <UnaCoder> to boot into this enviroment I copied the initrd image, unpacked it with cpio, and make a few changes, then repacked, gziped, and stuck it in /boot
[03:53] <Pelo> Vimto,  go to this liink check your model see if anything is mentionned   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:53] <tritium> rav: it should be auto-detected
[03:53] <UnaCoder> when i try to boot it from grub i get a kernel panick saying it can't mount the root device.  I have no idea why since I didn't change anything else... any idea?
[03:53] <Vimto> i just got the top and foot bars!
[03:54] <hexion> hi
[03:54] <rav> but i installed the nvidia driver, with the restricted driver and it still wont load
[03:54] <Vimto> does it request to wait to complete them or what!
[03:54] <Pelo> Vimto, have yo tried booting he cd again ? just in case it's a fluke
[03:54] <hexion> someone here has installed 2.6.23 kernel and uses fglrx driver?
[03:54] <tritium> rav: you ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[03:54] <Vimto> pelo yes i did too many times!
[03:54] <rav> yeah, but when should i select?
[03:55] <riotkittie> I had the same prob with live CDs on my lappy. dapper was as fast as to be expected. but edgy and feisty were just miserable.
[03:55] <Pelo> Vimto,  try useing the alternate install cd then,  it's text based less problematic in some case , you cna get it from the site ,  check the alternate cd box below the download now button
[03:55] <riotkittie> i think it took like 45 to get to the desktop on 7.04 the one time i toyed with the idea of installing to my laptop
[03:55] <tsukasa__> okay, why does dragging my windows produce static on my speakers o_0
[03:56] <Vimto> Pelo, what is alternate install?
[03:56] <jhou> tsukasa__, awesome sound effects?
[03:56] <h1st0> !alternate | Vimto
[03:56] <ubotu> Vimto: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[03:56] <propagandhi> tsukasa__: you're scraping the windows against the desktop :)
[03:56] <Pelo> tsukasa__,  crossed speaker and monitor cable ?  cheap onboard everthing mother board ?
[03:56] <tritium> rav: did you see my question?
[03:56] <Zombine> say... anyone know how to get apt-get to stop asking for the install CD when I install stuff?
[03:56] <propagandhi> Zombine:  remove it from /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:57] <h1st0> Zombine: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the cdrom as a source
[03:57] <rav> Yeah, but do i have to be using my nvidia at the time i use that/
[03:57] <rav> ?
[03:57] <Pelo> Zombine,  menu > system > admin > software sources , first tab, uncheck the cd  at the bottom
[03:57] <hexion> Zombine: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the lines about the cdrom
[03:57] <h1st0> Zombine: putting a # at the front of the line comments the line out.
[03:57] <Vimto> Pelo, alright
[03:57] <Vimto> !Minimal
[03:57] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:57] <NotSure> I just want to get a more or less comprehensive view of the population of this channel with regards to my issue
[03:57] <Zombine> Alright... I'll do one of those things :D
[03:57] <NotSure>  folks, how to enter a custom unicode character in a text editor w/o resorting to the help of character table?
[03:58] <Pelo> Vimto,  you don'T want minimal, it doens,T hve any gui on it , it'S just a basic linux with a few  cli packages in it
[03:58] <NotSure> is it impossible in GNOME and/or KDE ?
[03:58] <Zombine> thanks all
[03:58] <hexion> please, anyone has compiled/installed 2.6.23 kernel and uses fglrx driver????
[03:58] <kai> personally, i prefer minimal, you dont get anything you don't want
[03:58] <h1st0> NotSure: I believe there is a shortcut key combination for those characters.  Just can't remember how to do it off the top of my head
[03:58] <NotSure> thank you h1st0
[03:58] <NotSure> That is what I thought
[03:59] <Vimto> Pelo, after downloading the minimal CD should i boot it or.. ?
[03:59] <Pelo> Vimto,  get the alternate install cd not the minimal one
[03:59] <NotSure> h1st0, I would appreciate you telling me this combination
[03:59] <Pelo> Vimto,  you boot and install
[03:59] <kai> if you're new, i wouldn't go for minimal
[03:59] <Zombine> so... do I need to reboot or something?
[04:00] <propagandhi> Zombine:  runa apt-get update
[04:00] <hexion> Zombine, no, just apt-get update
[04:00] <Pelo> Zombine,  no just do sudo apt-get update before you do anyting else
[04:00] <NotSure> h1st0, please make an effort, It is extremely important and needs to be discussed in excruciating detail on one of the ubuntu blogs
[04:00] <hexion> lol
[04:00] <NotSure> h1st0 this issue is simply mind bogging when it comes to it
[04:00] <Zombine> okay..
[04:00] <Jagett> can I get a ubun2 7.04 download url ?
[04:00] <Pelo> !attitude | NotSure
[04:00] <ubotu> NotSure: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:01] <Vimto> Pelo, i just found the minimal one :/
[04:01] <NotSure> Pelo, sorry man, i did not mean to be pushy
[04:01] <Pelo> Vimto, www.ubuntu.com  first page  get ubuntu
[04:01] <Zombine> I think it's going...
[04:01] <NotSure> h1st0, did you find out?
[04:01] <Vimto> pelo, and then?
[04:02] <matooke> guys, is there a difference between the rc Ubuntu and the one to be released on the 18th?
[04:02] <NotSure> Pelo, did you address that comment to me?
[04:02] <[1] musashi> a
[04:02] <[1] musashi> oh =/
[04:02] <h1st0> !gutsy > matooke
[04:02] <jrib> NotSure: ctrl-shift-u
[04:02] <Pelo> Vimto,  see wher eyou select the cd to dl ?    select your options,  ubuntu 7.04  location,  and below the download now button   check the alternate cd box
[04:02] <Pelo> NotSure,  yes I did
[04:02] <endlessurf> anyone know how to bind an event listed in xorg to the event that the comp gives a device
[04:03] <h1st0> NotSure: no not yet
[04:03] <Nikster> Im running GeForce 2 with legacy drivers, GLX works fine as long as composite is disabled.. anyone know why? i want to try Compiz on 7.10
[04:03] <^Ocean^> how do I increase my workspaces from 2 too 4 ?
[04:03] <Vimto> Pelo, oh i see!
[04:03] <Vimto> Pelo, This will resolve the problem?
[04:03] <propagandhi> matooke: yeah there is a difference. One is in the future and does not effectively exist yet
[04:03] <endlessurf> ocean right click on the workspaces and go to properties
[04:03] <NotSure> jrib, control-shift-u and then what?
[04:03] <propagandhi> matooke: but on a serious note, I am using gutsy with no issues whatsoever
[04:03] <EvanP> hey, anyone know an exact date for gutsys release?
[04:04] <Nikster> 18th
[04:04] <Pelo> Vimto,  you,ll get a text install, no live desktop, from the cd boot menu you will go straight in to the installation, no need to worry about an install icon ,  the mouse should probably be detected aswell
[04:04] <Davy_Jones> EvanP: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[04:04] <jrib> NotSure: the code for your character
[04:04] <Davy_Jones> EvanP: 6 days to go
[04:04] <gaby_> what is this?
[04:04] <matooke> planning to set iup my 1st mail server and also planning to use dydns. Is it free?
[04:04] <t4dyce> how to create a boot disk ubuntu 7.04 ?
[04:04] <EvanP> Davy_Jones, thanks bro
[04:04] <bone> Can someone suggest a good ip_masq
[04:04] <NotSure> jrib you mean to type four digits?
[04:04] <Vimto> Pelo, Fine but am i required to do something with the text?
[04:04] <Davy_Jones> EvanP: sure thang
[04:04] <propagandhi> gaby_: by THIS what are u referring to?
[04:05] <bone> Can someone suggest a good ip_masq'd firewall for a dual nic ubuntu server (lan side and wan side)
[04:05] <Vimto> Pelo, or it should be installed by its own!
[04:05] <ironcladlou> How can I create a launcher icon for a bash script (.sh)?
[04:05] <EvanP> is there a ubuntu swedish channel?
[04:05] <UnaCoder> bone: iptables ?
[04:05] <jrib> NotSure: not necessarily digits, but sure
[04:05] <UnaCoder> bone: that's what i use at home
[04:05] <tritium> EvanP: #ubuntu-se
[04:05] <UnaCoder> bone: there are a lot of good tutorials on setting that up
[04:05] <wolfsong> how do I configure individual screensavers?
[04:05] <NotSure> jrib, ok I am trying to enter ctr-shft-u and then I press 00AC but that does not work. Do you know why?
[04:06] <bone> UnaCoder, iptables isnt really a firewall script. More I want something I can plkug in a few things and get going. like the old firewall.rc from projectfiles
[04:06] <EvanP> tritium, thank you
[04:06] <Pelo> Vimto,  you won'T need to   use commands for the install, just select options in an ugly shell like with the windows intaller
[04:06] <Davy_Jones> !screensaver
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <wolfsong> I'm also having "lockups" when the screensaver starts
[04:06] <tritium> EvanP: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local
[04:06] <Vimto> Pelo, alright is that it?
[04:06] <UnaCoder> bone: iptables is what firewalls scripts use to set policies...
[04:06] <Pelo> Vimto,  yes
[04:06] <ironcladlou> to clarify: how can i create a launcher icon in the gnome panel for a shell (sh) script?
[04:06] <wolfsong> it doesn't completely lockup but the screen stays black
[04:06] <h1st0> wolfsong: usually configuration is right on screensaver page but I believe ubuntu devs removed that option in some screensavers
[04:06] <jrib> NotSure: did you follow it with a space or something 
[04:06] <Vimto> Pelo, Thank you i will see after downloading this file
[04:07] <bone> UnaCoder, trust me, I know that. Just dont feel like reinventing the wheel right this second to get the lan onboard
[04:07] <NotSure> jrib no, but you I see had no trouble entering the character
[04:07] <wolfsong> h1st0: I'm not sure what you mean...the only option I have is preview
[04:07] <UnaCoder> bone: how complicated a setup are you looking for
[04:07] <NotSure> jrib what exactly did you type after cntr-sht-u ?
[04:07] <endlessurf> does anyone know how to assign devices to a particular event????   anyone
[04:07] <h1st0> wolfsong: yeah like glmatrix screen saver should have a configuration option also next to preview.  At least a default gnome install has that but the ubuntu screensaver package removed that.
[04:08] <jrib> NotSure: ctrl-shift-u, releaso, 00ac, space
[04:08] <jrib> NotSure: ctrl-shift-u, release, 00ac, space
[04:08] <NotSure> jrib, ok got you, hold on
[04:08] <bone> UnaCoder, multi interface (eth0 dhcp to cable modem, eth1 to lan switch serving lan via ip_masq). Maybe blacklisting and port designation.
[04:08] <bone> UnaCoder, I dont even need TOS :)
[04:09] <jrib> NotSure: ctrl-shift-u, releaso, ac, space   should work as well
[04:09] <bone> sorry, qos
[04:09] <NotSure>  jrib! you are cool !
[04:09] <NotSure> WOWOOW! JRIB! JRIB!!! WOWOW
[04:09] <NotSure> : ))
[04:09] <wolfsong> h1st0: yeah I don't have that for GLMatrix
[04:09] <ironcladlou> anybody? this should be a trivial task. i've tried both a regular application launch and an application in terminal launcher, neither work
[04:10] <pau1> Hey guys
[04:10] <pau1> I need some help
[04:10] <`Matir> ironcladlou, what's the problem?
[04:10] <pau1> Im running 7.04 Feisty, and I closed that menu bar at the bottom of the screen
[04:10] <ironcladlou> `Matir: I am just trying to figure out how to launch a shell script from an app launcher in gnome
[04:10] <pau1> That shows whats programs are running
[04:11] <pau1> and lets me switch desktops
[04:11] <pau1> I can relaunch it
[04:11] <pau1> *ant
[04:11] <pau1> **cant
[04:11] <tritium> ***can't
[04:11] <ironcladlou> `Matir: i've tried launchers, using "sh <path to script>", gnome-terminal -e, nothing works (i'm trying to launch my java IDE, intellij IDEA)
[04:11] <endlessurf> paul add a new bar
[04:11] <pau1> Yes
[04:11] <Pelo> pau1,  right click on an empty area of the top bar,  select add a pannel , move the new pannel to the botom,
[04:11] <pau1> I suppose
[04:11] <UnaCoder> bone: well that stuff is pretty simply done with the iptables command line tool, but you might check this out: http://www.pcc-services.com/iptables.html
[04:11] <ironcladlou> `Matir: just executing it from a term works fine
[04:12] <endlessurf> mouse events anyone???????
[04:12] <`Matir> ironcladlou, does just NOTHING happen?  if so, what is placed in .xsession-errors?
[04:12] <pau1> Hmm, thats just adding things to the top panel
[04:12] <bone> UnaCoder, is it something I can just apt-get (I come from Slack in 94, to Gentoo in 03, and now this, so I am getting used to this deb!an stuff).
[04:13] <theATOM> how can i clean my ubuntu hdd from all ineternet activity?
[04:13] <riotkittie> aw. a slacker. <cheek pinch>
[04:13] <endlessurf> paul right click and hit new pannel
[04:13] <butterj> msg NickServ set email joebutter@cebridge.net
[04:13] <cafuego> h4x!
[04:13] <pau1> A windows pops up
[04:13] <pau1> with crap to add to it
[04:13] <ironcladlou> `Matir: if i configure the launch as a terminal launcher, i see some window pop up and disappear immediately
[04:13] <tritium> butterj: oops ;)
[04:13] <UnaCoder> bone: oh... dunno.  never needed anything like that.  what you're talking about is probablly too simple for a whole different tool to be written
[04:13] <haletd> is the atom looking at adult content?
[04:13] <ironcladlou> `Matir: .xsession-errors is empty
[04:13] <UnaCoder> bone: I would just get friendly with iptables =)
[04:13] <endlessurf> paul you hit add to panel
[04:13] <pau1> Ah
[04:14] <UnaCoder> bone: it's not that hard once you get the hang of it
[04:14] <pau1> sorry
[04:14] <pau1> Thanks alot
[04:14] <ironcladlou> `Matir: if i configure the launch as an "Application", nothing happens when i click the icon (other than the animation for opening an app)
[04:14] <tabbi> How can I burn an is9660 image with wodim/cdrtools?
[04:14] <bone> UnaCoder, unfortunately I am, and can just echo up ip_forwarding but was going to use a simple script for now. want to switch out my firewalls
[04:14] <`Matir> ironcladlou, what happens if you run "gnome-terminal -e SCRIPTNAME" from a console?
[04:14] <ironcladlou> `Matir: and again, nothing in .xsession-errors
[04:14] <ironcladlou> `Matir: i'll try that
[04:15] <ironcladlou> `Matir: the same thing that happens if i run it from the alt+f2 run dialog: a terminal window with a modal error stating "there was an error craeting the child process for this terminal"
[04:15] <theATOM> how can i clear hdd from internet activity?
[04:15] <UnaCoder> bone: masquerading is as simple as: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth(external) -j MASQUERADE
[04:16] <EruditeHermit> hey, what sort of suspend does ubuntu use?
[04:16] <MasterShrek> !suspend
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <MasterShrek> !hibernate
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <komputes> This is a Re:Ask, does anyone have a cross platform video conference tool (I was recomended VLC, but that needs ports to be opened)
[04:17] <`Matir> ironcladlou, can you put the output of "mount" in a pastebin, please
[04:17] <MasterShrek> hmm
[04:17] <UnaCoder> bone: well hmm i'm not aware of any tool that does what you're askin' =/
[04:17] <ironcladlou> `Matir: one moment
[04:17] <steve1> does anyone know where i can get linux32
[04:18] <ironcladlou> `Matir: http://pastebin.com/m79a0e86d
[04:18] <bone> UnaCoder, I just snagged my firewall script from the old projectfiles.org server that seems to be long gone now days. Will use it till I can write something more indepth. Thanks anyway.
[04:18] <DM|> Anyone else having trouble getting gparted to run?
[04:18] <lumpycow> komputes I think that Gizmo project has video conferencing in its newest version
[04:18] <logreeval> in firefox the adobe flash is not working correctly for this site.... http://www.toyota.com/tundra/index.html?s_van=GM_TN_TUNDRA_INDEX anyone know why?
[04:18] <komputes> steve1: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/linux32
[04:18] <steve1> komputes: ty
[04:18] <bone> UnaCoder, since i'm deb!an illiterate, how do I view all available packages on the server build.
[04:18] <komputes> thank google
[04:18] <steve1> :P
[04:19] <UnaCoder> bone: aptitude search <pkgname>
[04:19] <komputes> so, videoconferencing on Ubuntu, anyone?
[04:19] <bone> UnaCoder, sweet. Thanks again
[04:19] <UnaCoder> np
[04:19] <lumpycow> komputes: I think that the Gizmo Project has vid conferneceing
[04:19] <bone> arno's firewall script is available. Wohoo. that will work.
[04:19] <`Matir> ironcladlou, odd... that error is usually from a lack of a proper /dev filesystem... what are permissions on /dev/null?
[04:19] <steve1> komputes: does it matter what Architecture i get?
[04:20] <UnaCoder> bone: if something you're looking for isn't listed make sure you have the extra repositories uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:20] <komputes> I have no clue, it's unstable though, so I dunno if i would recomended, whats calling for it>?
[04:20] <ironcladlou> `Matir: crw-rw-rw-1 root root 1, 3 2007-09-07 09:51 /dev/null
[04:20] <UnaCoder> bone: lots of stuff is in universe and multiverse
[04:20] <komputes> did you check the repositories first?
[04:20] <logreeval> anyone?
[04:20] <bone> UnaCoder, thanks. Will do that.
[04:21] <bqmassey> i want the coolest installation ever....  something very sleek and mac-like.. like a hacker on an FBI drama would have
[04:21] <bqmassey> what should i look into?
[04:21] <bone> Anyone know why when I start apache2 (7.04 LAMP+DNS Server Install) apache2 will not start, and dies with a Bus Error?
[04:21] <riotkittie> hackers on fbi dramas have things that are mac-like? <puke>
[04:21] <UnaCoder> bone: bus error?
[04:22] <bqmassey> like.. is there anything for ubuntu like the thing on mac that fades the screen and has customizable widgets
[04:22] <riotkittie> fades the screen? err. elaborate?
[04:22] <bone> UnaCoder, yep.
[04:22] <steve1> komputes: Well i am trying to install this game for my son and i get the error (This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown) so i thought linux32 would help?
[04:22] <UnaCoder> bone: can you paste or pastebin it?
[04:22] <riotkittie> you can use compiz-fusion. and screenlets. <shrug>
[04:23] <UnaCoder> bone: did you aptitude install apache2?
[04:23] <bone> UnaCoder, no, used LAMP + DNS package installs during initial install.
[04:23] <bqmassey> what are screenlets?
[04:23] <bqmassey> n/m google
[04:24] <UnaCoder> bone: run: apatitude show apache2
[04:24] <bqmassey> screenlets is excatly what i wanted
[04:24] <steve1> does anyone where have wolfenstein:et installed on their linux machine?
[04:24] <UnaCoder> bone: is the state "Installed"?
[04:24] <komputes> ya, just install WINE first and then the exesteve1:
[04:24] <bone> UnaCoder, yes
[04:24] <TheBuddha> A quick question: I've just installed the RC of Gutsy Gibbon, along with the new Broadcom drivers, but I'm unable to connect to my wireless network...it's detected (even shows the signal strength), but it times out when looking to actively connect. Has anyone else had this problem?
[04:25] <bone> UnaCoder, apache2 doesnt seem to generate a startuperror.log and nothing in error.log or access.log either.
[04:25] <bqmassey> i also want an application that will check all of my email addresses (including yahoo, gmail, and hotmail) and let me know when I have new emails
[04:25] <lumpycow> Say - is there any way to get a OSX like dock for Ubuntu WITHOUT using composite??
[04:25] <TheBuddha> lumpycow: I don't think so, no.
[04:25] <bone> UnaCoder, almost like its set to depend on something else which isnt started.
[04:25] <`Matir> is anyone familiar with openldap authentication?
[04:25] <UnaCoder> bone: what error specifically are you getting on the console?
[04:25] <bone> Bus Error
[04:25] <bone> then the [failed] 
[04:26] <_var> how go I get ls to display colors by default
[04:27] <komputes> ONCE a system is configured properly (drivers, apps, settings etc) Is there a way to back that up in case I need to make a new install without wasting 3 hours re-configuring it?
[04:27] <bone> _var its a switch you alias to ls normally
[04:27] <thinman1189> Hello. I'm trying to see if my friend's graphics card is supported in 7.10. I check the hardware support wiki and it doesn't specifically mention it. It's GeForce 6100 128mb pcie. Anyone know?
[04:27] <_var> bone: how?
[04:27] <cafuego> alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[04:27] <UnaCoder> bone: I've read that some times PHP will cause that, try commenting out the LoadModule php... and AddModule mod_php... in your httpd.conf and see if it starts or not
[04:27] <cafuego> pop that in ~/.$SHELLrc
[04:28] <steve1> komputes: Well i am trying to install this game for my son and i get the error (This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown) so i thought linux32 would help?
[04:28] <lumpycow> yah
[04:28] <cafuego> UnaCoder: There is no such thing in httpd./conf on Ubuntu.
[04:28] <ruz322> thinman1189: it should be, most nvidia geforce cards are, i have a fx5200 and it works great, so you should have no problem
[04:28] <UnaCoder> cafuego: how about a broken php module
[04:28] <bone> UnaCoder, it might be my filesys. I am getting cciss cmd f7c80000 has CHECK CONDITION byte 2 = 0x3 in my /var/log/messages file when I run the start/stop
[04:28] <thinman1189> ruz322: ok, thanks.
[04:28] <linxuz3r> SDFSDSDFSDFSDAFSDFkolOOSKKDFKL
[04:29] <bqmassey> QUESTION:  Does Ubuntu support real window transparency? Not the old make-application-background-from-copy-of-real-background, but real transparency?
[04:29] <_var> what are and how do I use aliases?
[04:29] <ruz322> thinman1189: just make sure you download the nvidia-glx package using apt-get and use the nvidia driver for your xorg configuration
[04:29] <cafuego> UnaCoder: they exist, but you still enable/disable php differently.
[04:29] <bone> _var, let me chec. give me a few seconds
[04:29] <UnaCoder> bone: more likely the issue
[04:29] <UnaCoder> cafuego: how would you do it? that's how i always have
[04:29] <ruz322> thiman1189: the vesa driver works, but the nvidia is much better, and it gives you 3d support
[04:29] <cafuego> UnaCoder: 'sudo a2enmod/a2dismod' on apache2.
[04:29] <linxuz3r> !op
[04:29] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[04:29] <komputes> Steve: oooooohhhhhh, try installing WINE or Ubuntu Ultimate with WINE and then try New Wolf
[04:29] <komputes> http://newwolf.sourceforge.net/
[04:30] <UnaCoder> cafuego: guess i'm used to apache 1 heh
[04:30] <nixternal> linxuz3r: what's up?
[04:30] <Amaranth> bqmassey: If you use compiz it does
[04:30] <bone> _var, type alias, and see if you already have it set
[04:30] <tritium> linxuz3r: yes?
[04:30] <linxuz3r> who thinks UBUNTU ROCKS???????????????????????????????
[04:30] <Amaranth> linxuz3r: !op is only to be used in emergencies
[04:30] <ruz322> linxuz3r: i know you didnt......you messaged the ops to say that?
[04:30] <bqmassey> thanks Amaranth
[04:30] <bqmassey> where do i find a list of supported video cards?
[04:30] <linxuz3r> sorry
[04:31] <_var> bone: just returns with anything to standard input
[04:31] <thinman1189> ruz322: ok, thanks. would the same go for geforce 6200 agp 256mb?
[04:31] <cafuego> There _is_ an emergency
[04:31] <ruz322> thinman1189: yes
[04:31] <nixternal> cafuego: what is it?
[04:31] <thinman1189> ruz322: thanks
[04:31] <cafuego> linxuz3r is attempting to troll
[04:31] <victor__> server irc.irchighway.net
[04:31] <bone> _var, what term program are you in?
[04:31] <hhp2k> Can someone help me with an X11 problem? I
[04:31] <cafuego> (but failing rather miserably)
[04:32] <rob> cafuego, that's the impression I'm getting, or he is just being annoying
[04:32] <_var> bone: bash
[04:32] <cafuego> heh
[04:32] <hhp2k> I'm trying to install a screensaver pack and the ./configure script stops with an error about X11 default directory not being found.
[04:32] <nixternal> any matter, that should quiet him for a bit
[04:32] <nixternal> I noticed his previous stuff as well
[04:32] <bone> var, type alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[04:32] <nixternal> f0rtune: where at in Illinois are you?
[04:32] <f0rtune> nixternal, suburd of chicago
[04:32] <bone> _var, then type alias and make sure it set
[04:32] <f0rtune> suburb*
[04:33] <nixternal> f0rtune: same here
[04:33] <nixternal> Bloomingdale
[04:33] <Amaranth> bqmassey: If you use the Ubuntu 7.10 Release Candidate (just released today) compiz will be on by default if your hardware supports it
[04:33] <ruz322> hhp2k: pastebin the error and give me the link
[04:33] <geirha> hhp2k: you probably need to install libx11-dev package
[04:33] <f0rtune> nixternal, hmm im somewhat close to that
[04:33] <steve1> komputes: so i assume this is the place? http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64
[04:34] <bqmassey> Amaranth: i don't have ubuntu installed yet.. i dont want to download the iso until it's officially released
[04:34] <nixternal> f0rtune: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChicagoTeam/GutsyReleaseParty - We are having a release party and install fest at the College of DuPage on Sunday the 21st if you are interested
[04:34] <f0rtune> what package do i need to be able to play avi files (some avi codec?)
[04:34] <bqmassey> Amaranth: is there a list somewhere?
[04:34] <hhp2k> ruz322: http://pastebin.org/4652
[04:34] <komputes> steve: what kind of chip what ver. of ubuntu?
[04:34] <akincer> This might be a strange question, but what version of Bacula is going to be in 7.10? Anyone know? I've come to like that backup package.
[04:34] <f0rtune> nixternal, OMG thats so cool, i may actually go
[04:34] <Amaranth> bqmassey: intel, older ati, and nvidia
[04:34] <geirha> f0rtune: depends on the player you want to use
[04:34] <steve1> komputes: 6.06
[04:34] <f0rtune> nixternal, COD isnt far from my house, just need to get ppl to go with me
[04:34] <nixternal> f0rtune: I run the Ubuntu Chicago LoCo team (#ubuntu-chicago IRC channel) if you are interested in hanging out
[04:34] <bone> UnaCoder, odd, but an apt-get upgrade of my 7.04 Server build fixed the issue.
[04:34] <ruz322> aah release party, wish we had one near me in georgia!!!
[04:34] <endlessurf> does any one know how to make a usb device keep the same event everytime it is booted?
[04:35] <nixternal> I am the vice-pres of the CoD LUG. so I use CoD as much as possible :)
[04:35] <UnaCoder> bone: heh, must have been a broken package or something
[04:35] <f0rtune> geirha, i was using movie player, but what would  you suggest
[04:35] <UnaCoder> bone: partially installed perhaps
[04:35] <noor> so did 7.10 come out yet?
[04:35] <hhp2k> geirha: libx11-dev installed
[04:35] <f0rtune> nixternal, thanks for the info ill check it out
[04:35] <hhp2k> geirha: Already :\
[04:35] <komputes> steve1:what kind of CPY
[04:35] <ruz322> hhp2k: install the libx11-dev package and try it again
[04:35] <nixternal> cool f0rtune...awesome catching some more Chicagoans here :)
[04:35] <komputes> CPU
[04:35] <akincer> 7 days till 7.10
[04:35] <noor> AWWW
[04:35] <noor> T____T
[04:35] <hhp2k> ruz322: libx11-dev already installed, just checked.
[04:35] <bone> UnaCoder, ya. LAMP must have not installed properly. DNS at least looks solid considering I havent touched it.
[04:35] <noor> thx any way
[04:36] <nixternal> :p
[04:36] <endlessurf> does any one know how to make a usb device keep the same event everytime it is booted?
[04:36] <geirha> f0rtune: mplayer and vlc are nice, since they ship with alot of codecs allready
[04:36] <bone> _var, did you get it working?
[04:36] <noor> i cant wait till compiz FInally!! i cant get compiz to work on this one so ill just wait 7 days XD
[04:36] <nixternal> mneptok: gotta pimp Ubuntu mang :D
[04:36] <f0rtune> geirha, thanks ill try those out
[04:36] <akincer> Anybody know the Bacula version in 7.10?
[04:36] <mneptok> endlessurf: "event?"
[04:36] <steve1> komputes: i got the ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64, and i am running an amd 64
[04:36] <pierre_> hi everybody
[04:36] <nixternal> !info bacula gutsy
[04:36] <ubotu> bacula: Network backup, recovery and verification (Meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-4ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 52 kB, installed size 96 kB
[04:36] <nixternal> akincer: ^^
[04:36] <_var> bone: i'm unfamiliar with aliases; can you show me an example; I'm looking at the bash man page now...
[04:36] <mneptok> akincer: Version: 2.0.3-4ubuntu3
[04:37] <endlessurf> mneptok when you boot your computer your usb devices get an event
[04:37] <bone> _var, I showed you an example up top
[04:37] <akincer> Ahh, there's a handy command for such things here? Didn't know that. First time here
[04:37] <geirha> f0rtune: for the movie player, which I assume is the default movie player (totem) you need to install some gstreamer-packages
[04:37] <komputes> steve1: might run into problems with 64 bit, don't know but try always, follow the instructions on the wine page, let me know how it turns out
[04:37] <bone> var, type the following             alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[04:37] <ruz322> hpp2k: hmm thats a strange one...
[04:37] <steve1> komputes: will do xD
[04:37] <endlessurf> mneptok i referenced something in my xorg to a specific event but every time it boots it gets a random event
[04:37] <_var> bone: ah, missed it; thanks
[04:37] <endlessurf> mneptok have any clue?
[04:37] <pierre_> everyone know in the console a command for reset sound card i don't see in the forum
[04:38] <mneptok> endlessurf: input device?
[04:38] <ruz322> hpp2k: have you tried it using that option it suggests?
[04:38] <endlessurf> yeah
[04:38] <ruz322> hpp2k: --with-defaultdir=DIR
[04:38] <bone> _var, you cant just look for the nick highlight when someone is talking to you :)  I missed the _
[04:38] <hhp2k> ruz322: I don't know how to do that. :\
[04:38] <mneptok> endlessurf: use UUID
[04:38] <ruz322> hpp2k: ./configure --with-defaultdir=DIR
[04:38] <bone> _var, after you type that, type               alias
[04:38] <hhp2k> ruz322: But don't I have to specify a directory where DIR is?
[04:38] <endlessurf> mneptok UUID is it in repositories?
[04:38] <bone> _var, and see if its set
[04:38] <_var> bone: done and working...
[04:39] <ruz322> hpp2k: yea, i was assuming you knew it
[04:39] <hhp2k> ruz322: I don't, that's the problem. :P
[04:39] <hhp2k> ruz322: If I knew, I would have tried that.
[04:39] <geirha> hhp2k: never encountered anything like that before, I would look through the configure script and see what it actually tried
[04:39] <ruz322> hpp2k: let me look, see if i can find soemthing
[04:39] <bqmassey> Amaranth: I've got an ATI Radion Mobility 9600 Turbo Pro .....  I think      that should work with all of the effects?
[04:39] <hhp2k> ruz322: Okay, thanks
[04:40] <hhp2k> geirha: That's an idea, thanks
[04:40] <Amaranth> bqmassey: yeah, should work
[04:40] <steve1> komputes: nah it won't let me install the package
[04:40] <bone> _var, you might have to set that somewhere. Most likely your in a desktop install (based on your newbieism), so I would say check which startup files that term uses so that you can add it to them.
[04:40] <bqmassey> Amaranth: awesome. thanks.
[04:40] <jj420> can someone tell me how to share my internet over my wirless network to my laptop running windows?
[04:40] <akincer> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> jj420: uh, a router?
[04:40] <bone> sudo su -
[04:40] <bone> :)
[04:40] <ruz322> hpp2k: /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults try that
[04:40] <komputes> steve1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[04:41] <jj420> my friend has his laptop here and i dont want to buy a router to allow him internet
[04:41] <hhp2k> ruz322: ./configure --with-defaultdir=/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults .. like that?
[04:41] <bqmassey> QUESTION: I ran a Live CD.. and it seemed to work pretty good.. except for that when I changed resolution to my screen's native resolution (which wasn't automatically detected) the screen tiled the desktop at the original resolution
[04:41] <jj420> i thought i could share it through my wireless card
[04:41] <bone> jj420, make him use the tin can and string method.
[04:41] <komputes> steve1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[04:41] <bqmassey> any ideas?
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> jj420: how bout making him buy the router.
[04:42] <_var> bone: so I should put alias ls='ls color=auto' in $HOME/.bash_profile (it's linked to .bashrc)?
[04:42] <geirha> hhp2k: I think it may be /etc/X11/app-defaults on ubuntu
[04:42] <bone> jj420, so you want to set your wireless card to AP mode to allow him to connect into you as the router?
[04:42] <hhp2k> geirha: That's what I was just told, I'm executing that now.
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> bone: why does that sound extremely insecure to my wireless challenged brain
[04:42] <ruz322> hhp2k: yea, i think that one i just found was for somethign else, im reinstalling my ubuntu right now or i would look myself
[04:43] <bone> _var, it depends on the term program. I dont use GUI's for the most part so I dont have a clue. If it were me... I would put it in /etc/profile or someplace that sources
[04:43] <hhp2k> ruz322: Okay.. I believe that may have worked.. but I'm getting another directory problem now
[04:43] <pierre_> akincer thank it work
[04:43] <ruz322> hhp2k: actually, it may be the one i gave you, thats where the libraries are stored
[04:43] <ruz322> hhp2k: what error now?
[04:43] <hhp2k> but that's a different issue, so. Thanks for your help =D Thank you too geirha
[04:43] <bone> IndyGunFreak, its actually not that bad. I have done it, but you do need to be very careful with it.
[04:43] <_var> bone: I'm using tty1 now myself
[04:43] <ruz322> hhp2k: no prob
[04:43] <bone> _var, so your console, and not GUI?
[04:43] <hhp2k> ruz322: http://pastebin.org/4656
[04:43] <jj420> ya
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> bone: i bet... like i said though, i'm a wireless idiot, i know very little about it, as my network is wired
[04:43] <_var> bone: correct
[04:43] <Evanlec> _var, put aliases in ~/.bashrc
[04:44] <jj420>  bone: ya
[04:44] <ari_stress> help. is there anyway i can install BOTH sendmail and postfix? i need to learn them
[04:44] <akincer> No problem. I've had to do that a few times thanks to internet radio via Rhythmbox hosing my audio
[04:44] <steve1> komputes: old wolf is that really old game lol, i was talking about ET :P
[04:44] <Evanlec> _var, you'll see examples even in that file
[04:44] <bone> IndyGunFreak, I wasnt actually answering you though, i was answering jj420. I think
[04:44] <bone> Evanlec, thanks. helping too many at one time :)
[04:44] <IndyGunFreak> bone: ya i know... i was just commenting onw hat you said...lol
[04:44] <Evanlec> bone, np ;p
[04:44] <pierre_> akincer thank it not work
[04:44] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, how goes?
[04:44] <_var> Evanlec: yeah, I've already screwed around with my ENV in there...
[04:45] <bone> IndyGunFreak, ahh. wanted to make sure you didnt think I was talking to you answering one of your issues (if you have any visibile :) ).
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: eh, same ol' same ol'
[04:45] <williams> Can somebody possibly help me with burning an iso in Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 3000 with an old CD-RW drive that was working in this machine with a different OS? When I try to use it with several different programs under Ubuntu it just ejects and asks for a recordable disk. If I just burn as file it works, but of course that does me no good.
[04:45] <akincer> Did didn't work? Then you got an even bigger problem
[04:45] <ruz322> hhp2k: did that screensaver pack come with documentation?
[04:45] <akincer> It didn't work?
[04:45] <pierre_> no
[04:45] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, did u have any trouble with the broken gutsy updates?
[04:45] <ruz322> hhp2k: it seems there may be another package you need to install those extra screensavers
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: no
[04:45] <akincer> Hmmm. I'm not totally sure then.
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> i'm putting RC on my laptop now.
[04:45] <bone> jj420, it is partially insecure so you have to watch how you set it up and make sure that you set it up properly. but it is doable. there are many howto's out there on it. I would check the web actually as it's alot more indepth that even my 85wpm fingers can start into.
[04:46] <LabThug> Hi
[04:46] <hhp2k> ruz322: I'll look through it. Thanks for your help.
[04:46] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, coolness, i cant wait, but i figure ive waited this long, only one more week
[04:46] <ruz322> k
[04:46] <LabThug> does anyone in here use evms for a software raid?
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: lol, be a man, clean install.
[04:46] <bone> jj420, I would search for wireless ap linux howto. that should get you pointed in the right direction. Also, some wireless cards cannot do it.
[04:46] <jj420> ive been googling it but all i come up with is how to set up wap for the ap
[04:46] <akincer> What's wrong with it?
[04:47] <Evanlec> bone, won't he need a wired internet connection (or two connections wireless or wired) to do that?
[04:47] <pierre_> i check video and i have no more snd
[04:47] <jj420> i got a wired connection to my cable modem
[04:47] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, im still planning on clean install...
[04:47] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:47] <akincer> You mean you play a video and sound stops?
[04:47] <bone> Evanlec, maybe i misunderstood. I thought he had a wired one, and he wanted to open his wireless one up as an AP for his roommate/whomever.
[04:47] <ari_stress> why can't i install both sendmail and postfix? can't i just activating one of them one at a time?
[04:47] <Evanlec> jj420, okay, then all u gotta do is set urself up as a WAP and then use somethin like firestarter (a firewall but can also setup internet connection sharing, aka routing)
[04:47] <Chustar> hello everyone!
[04:48] <Evanlec> bone, no you're right, thats what hes got
[04:48] <hhp2k> geirha: The configure file for this package is massive :(
[04:48] <Chustar> windoze user on the loose!
[04:48] <bone> Ya, what he said.
[04:48] <bone> :)
[04:48] <bone> Evanlec, we are a good team, thanks...
[04:48] <Evanlec> ;)
[04:48] <geirha> williams: try burning from commandline, the output may give some clues: growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom=image.iso
[04:48] <pierre_> ok after hibernate i have no sound and i want command line to write in consol for reset card
[04:48] <bone> Evanlec, wait till I start asking about openswan :)
[04:48] <williams> Thanks - I will try that
[04:49] <akincer> The only one I know to reset sound is the one I gave you. But you probably have other problems related to hibernation that simple commands won't fix
[04:49] <Evanlec> pierre_, i'd say skip the hibernate mode
[04:49] <geirha> hhp2k: do you have a link to the package your trying to compile?
[04:49] <Evanlec> bone, openswan? lol
[04:49] <akincer> Openswan? That thing about drove me to drink
[04:49] <Evanlec> lol
[04:49] <akincer> But I got it working the way I wanted
[04:49] <komputes> steve1: I think WINE will still do
[04:49] <bone> Evanlec, ya, I have to figure out how to VPN into my work which uses RSA SecureID's and a nortel client
[04:50] <komputes> bone: on linux?
[04:50] <Evanlec> bone, oh well that sounds like a blast
[04:50] <bone> akincer, it'll probably drive me nuts also. IBM wont support us on it.
[04:50] <bone> komputes, yep.
[04:50] <lumpycow> WHY does my wireless only have 39-40% (2/4 bars) in linux(ubuntu) and in windows it has 3 or 4 bars??
[04:50] <komputes> bone: what sw?
[04:50] <gregorovius> i've just upgraded to gutsy... what's the difference between the 386 and the generic kernel image?
[04:50] <Scunizi> pierre_, I read something on the Dev list about this.  Apparently you have to shut down alsa during the hybernate process and bring it back live when coming out of it.. How you do this I don't know..  they're apparently working on this for the final.
[04:50] <akincer> You looking to use it as a road warrior or as a concentrator?
[04:50] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, check this out, pretty amazing 	http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=mxco1v392x
[04:51] <bone> komputes, openswan is what I was going to use originally, but It might not support the correct nortel vpn protocol.
[04:51] <bone> komputes, its only reason I have windows at home. on call 24/7/366 sucks.
[04:51] <akincer> Openswan can cause issues when certain things are mandated. Such as DHCP over VPN. It will choke everytime
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: lol, how did you come across that?  i can't draw a stick figure with paint
[04:51] <silent> Evanlec, I don't think that website has enough images to load
[04:51] <_var> gregorovius: I believe the generic kernels work with more systems while 386 work only with i386 processors
[04:51] <bone> akincer, i havent tried it in 2 years so i was hoping it would have been better by now.
[04:52] <williams> Question 2 - I cannot get the screen resolution above some awful amount like 400x600 or 600x800 - factory video with the flat panel that came with it. the screen also blanks during startup in place of showing the splash screen or the beautfil list of what it is doing
[04:52] <Evanlec> silent, what?
[04:52] <williams> Try video card or different monitor first?
[04:52] <gregorovius> I got a Pentium D, which one should I use?
[04:52] <silent> IndyGunFreak, there are lots of people who do this sort of thing. I've seen some absolutely incredible photoshop ones
[04:52] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, skip forward a bit, its kinda long...pretty amazing
[04:52] <akincer> bone: I don't have a previous point of reference to compare. I only know that it has some severe limitations
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: ok.
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> silent: no doubt its impressive.
[04:53] <bone> Anyone have a clue why I had to install i386 on an dual XEON 3.06ghz system. I thought those Xeons were 64bit.
[04:53] <Evanlec> silent, yea i bet, u got any? this one i thot was rather amazing cuz he's using PAINT, he must have a tablet tho
[04:53] <pierre_> ok boys
[04:53] <pierre_> ok thank's boys
[04:53] <Evanlec> bone, they probly are, but u chose 32-bit kernel?
[04:53] <komputes> bone: http://wiki.openswan.org/index.php/Openswan/Interoperating
[04:53] <LtL> gregorovius - the amd-generic kernel for intel D is what you want
[04:54] <akincer> Their wiki reads like years of all the incoherent parts of stereo instructions cobbled together
[04:54] <bone> Evanlec, I downloaded 64bit AMD and Intel server iso and it wouldnt install. gave a message saying to use 32bit.
[04:54] <Evanlec> bone, no kiddin...
[04:54] <silent> Evanlec, no, any 2000 dpi mouse would do the trick, and I realize doing it with photoshop would seem easier, as it is more featured, however, the quality increases with the switch. It's unbelievable
[04:54] <bone> komputes, been through that like 100 times when I tried a few years ago.
[04:54] <geirha> williams: what video card is it?
[04:54] <bone> Evanlec, yep.
[04:54] <akincer> And the information I found for Sonicwall interoperating there was total crap
[04:55] <komputes> bone: PSK is a PARTIAL and  NAT is MAYBE, so I think it may be too flakey
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> gotta go all, be safe
[04:55] <Evanlec> silent, yea but have u ever tried to draw with a mouse? its certainly not natural
[04:55] <akincer> NAT works fine over Openswan
[04:55] <bone> komputes, uggh. still not fun.
[04:55] <hhp2k> geirha: http://www.reallyslick.com/ is the link to the screensaver package - rsxs-0.9.
[04:55] <komputes> bone: but if you find a way let me know
[04:55] <bone> Wonder if I can make my PIX box just stay connected to the VPN. Wait, it cant use securid
[04:56] <silent> Evanlec, no, its simply another form of art. as sculpting is different from drawing, and drawing from painting, using a mouse is becoming more prevailent
[04:56] <cghbxcfbh> tai
[04:56] <PinkFloyd> Could someone tell me what the chmod command would be to make a dir writeable by all but not readable
[04:56] <williams> intel 82865g Integrated Graphics
[04:56] <komputes> bone: tried WINE and the windows version for now?
[04:56] <Evanlec> bone, did u read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153165
[04:56] <silent> Evanlec, particularly with gaming-grade mice with high dpi sensitivity
[04:56] <bone> komputes, i'll play with it. I hate WINEE and GUI's though
[04:56] <gregorovius> LtL, by amd-generic you mean generic?
[04:56] <_var> why when I do you dd if=/dev/random count=1 my terminal uses funny characters?
[04:56] <bone> Evanlec, probably not :)
[04:56] <akincer> Just run Windows in Xen and get it over with
[04:56] <Evanlec> silent, thats craziness when tablets are so cheap and so much easier and more functional
[04:56] <bone> akincer, i dont do gui's much. I'd rather command line it
[04:57] <Evanlec> silent, i got one 4 years ago for 80$ and its seen a lot of abuse, and it still works like a charm
[04:57] <komputes> so anyone use something simple and cross platform for videoconferencing on linux?
[04:57] <hhp2k> geirha: I found out that xscreensaver wasn't installed, which is the cause of my next error. I'm installing that now.
[04:57] <alduin> _var: You don't have an of= so the random character is getting sent to your terminal and confusing it.
[04:57] <akincer> Me too. But if getting connected is a higher temporary priority, get the gui client running in a VM and work on an alternative in the background at your leisure
[04:57] <_var> aduin: um
[04:57] <bone> Evanlec, looking now
[04:58] <_var> alduin: I should send it to a text file and read it?
[04:58] <silent> http://www.youtube.com/user/macpulenta
[04:58] <Evanlec> bone, you xeon could be either 64-bit or 32-bit apparently
[04:58] <silent> there are various works
[04:58] <silent> Evanlec, ^
[04:58] <black_13> how would i get ubuntu to use microsoft proxy server?
[04:59] <soahc00> hey guys, anyone aware of issues with mixed ide/sata configuration installations?
[04:59] <alduin> _var: That's probably a better way to go.  What are you attempting to do?
[04:59] <bone> Evanlec, you think HP would put 32bit Xeon's in a DL360 G3? I just dont see that for a 1500 machine
[04:59] <steve1> komputes: Ubuntu Dapper (6.06) amd64 not available:
[04:59] <pc2> hi
[04:59] <PinkFloyd> Could someone tell me what the chmod command would be to make a dir writeable by all but not readable?
[05:00] <bone> Evanlec, actually maybe they are. I installed XP on one at work so I bet they are 32's
[05:00] <_var> alduin: I'm just experimenting with my system. I read about /dev/random, so I wanted to see what it was
[05:00] <Evanlec> bone, i dunno, maybe, check the specs on the model if its a brand-name system
[05:00] <geirha> _var: it's a common thing when printing non-character symbols, that the terminal may get messed up. Typing reset usually turns it back though
[05:00] <adamkili> so, um, I used a hard drive in this one laptop I have to test if another laptop I have works (it does), and I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to get the X server working on the other laptop, but when I took the hard drive back to my other laptop, ran that command again, and got the x server running, compiz effects stopped working. any ideas on how to fix this?
[05:00] <akincer> Unless I'm mistaken, you cannot have the ability to write but not read. But don't quote me on that
[05:00] <pc2> hi
[05:00] <PinkFloyd> akincer, I didnt think so but it's worth a shot
[05:00] <lumpycow> WHY does my wireless only have 39-40% (2/4 bars) in linux(ubuntu) and in windows it has 3 or 4 bars??
[05:00] <Evanlec> PinkFloyd, i think chmod a-r+w <file> will work?
[05:01] <PinkFloyd> let me try
[05:01] <komputes> silent: wow i want to photoshop like macpulenta
[05:01] <alduin> _var: It's giving you a random character.  It just so happens that that character is also one that messes with your terminal. =)
[05:01] <silent> komputes, heh, me too
[05:01] <dsad> Hi..I know my question doesn't have anything to do with linux but I don't know where to go
[05:01] <PinkFloyd> Evanlec yeah it did
[05:01] <_var> lol
[05:01] <akincer> cool, I was wrong!
[05:01] <dsad> My MSN messenger doesn't work. It loads and I sign in but then it freezes
[05:01] <Evanlec> PinkFloyd, that worked? i just guessed lol
[05:01] <komputes> silent: you think waacom or straight on screen?
[05:02] <silent> komputes, chances are he does it for a living, most likely for modeling. that sort of familiarity with photoshop shows some serious experience
[05:02] <PinkFloyd> Evanlec you guessed correctly. :P
[05:02] <Evanlec> awesome
[05:02] <PinkFloyd> thanks
[05:02] <akincer> Maybe my memory serves that it is a write once proposition.
[05:02] <steve1> komputes: get my pm? :-P
[05:02] <komputes> dsad: son't even start, I want msn too for videoconference, no go
[05:02] <Evanlec> komputes, hes gotta be using a tablet
[05:02] <akincer> Or maybe I'm just confused :)
[05:02] <alduin> _var: And like geirha said, 'reset' will often fix it, even if you can't read "reset" while you're typing it.
[05:02] <silent> the latest one on bumblebee from transformers is pretty awesome
[05:02] <Evanlec> komputes, if he does this for a living...he'd be crazy not to use a tablet
[05:02] <komputes> tablet pc or drawing tablet?
[05:02] <dsad> CPU usage is @ 50%
[05:03] <silent> but scarlett johanssen is also amazing
[05:03] <komputes> spiderman one is amazing
[05:03] <dsad> If nobody here knows do you know who could help me?
[05:03] <komputes> dsad, use pidgin
[05:03] <dsad> pidgin?
[05:03] <silent> Evanlec, it probably is a tablet, based on his sketchings he builds tone and colour on
[05:03] <komputes> msn on wine is a no go
[05:03] <komputes> videoconferencing on linux is a headache
[05:04] <silent> komputes, apt-get install gaim
[05:04] <Evanlec> silent, oh ya the spiderman definitely a tablet, its apparent in his starting sketch outlines
[05:04] <hhp2k> geirha: Installing xscreensaver didn't do it, and gave me the same error about not finding the dir for xscreensaver. I tried to find that dir in etc but it wasn't there. I'm confused. :\
[05:04] <komputes> gaim is now pidgin
[05:04] <Evanlec> silent, lines of varying opacity (black to gray)
[05:04] <PinkFloyd> Evanlec I got what I wanted. I wanted a dir that could not been read in Nautilus but could be written to with the terminal
[05:04] <lumpycow> dsad I noticed that too, I don't think I can chat on MSN right now either
[05:04] <komputes> pidgin does msn, aol, icq irc and more
[05:04] <akincer> Evanlec, did that write but not read apply to files you created?
[05:04] <geirha> hhp2k: could be a followup error from choosing wrong app-defaults dir
[05:04] <silent> Evanlec, yea
[05:04] <hhp2k> geirha: Could be. sigh.
[05:04] <Evanlec> akincer, i didnt try the command, i cant see why anyone would want to lol
[05:05] <silent> PinkFloyd, thanks for the great music
[05:05] <PinkFloyd> >_>
[05:05] <dsad> ok thx
[05:05] <silent> PinkFloyd, you get along so well with the sweet mary jane
[05:05] <steve1> komputes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3517803#post3517803
[05:06] <bqmassey> how many cd's will the new release be?
[05:06] <akincer> oh, it was PinkFloyd that asked
[05:06] <akincer> duh
[05:06] <Snuxoll> Hey all
[05:06] <PinkFloyd> lol
[05:06] <Gun_Smoke> Can someone explain "load averages"?
[05:06] <Snuxoll> In what context Gun_Smoke
[05:07] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: What is it?  Does it matter to me?
[05:07] <geirha> hhp2k: look at "dpkg -L xscreensaver-data" ... could be one of those paths
[05:07] <Snuxoll> Where are you seeing this Gun_Smoke
[05:07] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: uptime
[05:07] <akincer> Anyone here messed with Plone much?
[05:07] <hhp2k> geirha: That's useful, thanks
[05:07] <Snuxoll> What are your load averages?
[05:08] <Pici> Gun_Smoke: check out the manpage for uptime for a good description of what the load averages mean
[05:08] <Scunizi> Gun_Smoke, try "top" from console and you'll see the running load averages  and how the three columns are labeled.
[05:08] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, its an average of the total "load" on your cpu
[05:09] <lumpycow> WHY does my wireless only have 39-40% (2/4 bars) in linux(ubuntu) and in windows it has 3 or 4 bars??
[05:09] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, since your computer was last rebooted
[05:09] <Snuxoll> It's more than total CPU load
[05:09] <Snuxoll> It's also RAM and SWAP loads too
[05:09] <Scunizi> bqmassey, did you get an answer?
[05:09] <Evanlec> lumpycow, probably just driver differences, long as it works right?
[05:09] <bqmassey> Scunizi: didn't see one
[05:09] <bqmassey> Scunizi: trying to figure it out from the site
[05:10] <Gun_Smoke> Is it a way to tell if your system is under preforming task requirements?
[05:10] <Pici> System load averages is the average number of processes that are either  in a runnable or uninterruptable state.
[05:10] <Snuxoll> Who here would buy a pre-built Ubuntu-configured PC if I sold one?
[05:10] <akincer> I've found that iwconfig offers more accurate views of signal quality than the dumbed down windows bars
[05:10] <lumpycow> Evanlec: I guess, but have any idea if using the windows wrapper drivers would perform better?
[05:10] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: I might.
[05:10] <frostburn> how does one park a hard drives heads
[05:10] <Scunizi> bqmassey, there will be one cd per version.. Ubuntu for the Gnome desktop, Kubuntu for kde desktop, Xubuntu for xfce, server and Kubuntu which is kde oriented to the educational market, kids at home etc.
[05:11] <akincer> With a valet
[05:11] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, its more for servers to see how many ppl were on it
[05:11] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: If the price is right..
[05:11] <Snuxoll> What's your price range?
[05:11] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: That would depend.  Right now I would like to stay under 600
[05:11] <Gun_Smoke> CPU alone
[05:12] <komputes> Evanlec: Ya it's a waacom
[05:12] <Snuxoll> What do you expect out of a $600 machine?
[05:12] <macaco> hello
[05:12] <bqmassey> Scunizi: alright, cool....   does it all fit on one cd or does that just install a minimal system and you add everything you need?
[05:12] <komputes> steve1: so you followed that, did it work?
[05:12] <Evanlec> lumpycow, they might, i didnt bother with ndiswrapper, most people seem to use it if they need extended feature (aka WPA)
[05:13] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: DVD/CD burner, >1G ram 2.* processor 3d card
[05:13] <Scunizi> bqmassey, nope that's pretty much everything you need for a basic desktop with software.. from there you add other "stuff", like Xchat, aMSN, Scribus, Inkscape, Amorak etc..
[05:13] <lumpycow> Evanlec: I see, I guess ill just have to use it!! haha.
[05:13] <Snuxoll> How powerful would you want the video card?
[05:14] <MasterShrek> lumpycow, what kind of wifi card is it?
[05:14] <MasterShrek> hello Evanlec
[05:14] <Snuxoll> Moreover, what would you use the system for
[05:14] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: I don't game... But I don't want it to be too out of date in 18 months
[05:14] <Evanlec> lumpycow, i guess if its bothering u that much...signal strength ive seen varies a lot...dont necessarily mean much long as ur connection isnt slow or dropping
[05:14] <bqmassey> Scunizi: are the CDs all live cds that give you the option to install it on the harddrive, or is there a seperate live cd
[05:14] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, hi hi
[05:14] <Snuxoll> Video cards are out of date the day they come out
[05:14] <silent> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf-_RwiiVT0
[05:14] <Evanlec> bqmassey, they are one and the same
[05:14] <MasterShrek> Snuxoll, 600 dollars will buy you a nice computer
[05:14] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: I know.. Enough to keep up with beryl
[05:14] <komputes> lol, what you call extended (WPA) I call minimum security
[05:15] <bqmassey> Evanlec, Scunizi: awesome. thanks!
[05:15] <Snuxoll> Beryl isn't that heavy.....I run Compiz Fusion on a RADEON 9500 PRO
[05:15] <Scunizi> bqmassey, all the cd are live unless you purposely get the "Alternate" cd for a text based install.  Will you try to dual boot or take over the entire drive.
[05:15] <macaco> i need help. how i can ubuntu detect my HTC APACHE 6600 pocket pc? i use dmesg to but i don't see USB conecction
[05:15] <akincer> Skip the wireless encryption and just stick your wireless in front of VPN.
[05:15] <Pici> !ot | silent
[05:15] <Gun_Smoke> MasterShrek: esp if you build yourself.. I have always wanted to do it.
[05:15] <Snuxoll> Hell, I can run beryl on a i945
[05:15] <ubotu> silent: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:15] <lumpycow> Evanlec: oh I see, it seem to work alright. that all I was wondering. it does work fine.
[05:15] <komputes> silent: Now how does uptown girl relate to ubuntu
[05:15] <silent> MasterShrek, a good computer is relative to what operating system you run... windows requires significantly more resources than ubuntu
[05:15] <akincer> If you have the extra hardware to do it that is
[05:16] <Snuxoll> So, Gun_Smoke, average desktop use with eyecandy support?
[05:16] <hhp2k> geirha: I fixed that problem with your advice, thanks. But now it's telling me it can't compile without openGL support.. which I thought I had enabled. It's telling me this: http://pastebin.org/4662. Let me know if you're too busy by the way, I really appreciate your help :)
[05:16] <silent> komputes, I was just checking to see if it was a rickroll... my friend sent the link on msn
[05:16] <Evanlec> silent, lol ? why am i waatching billy joel ?
[05:16] <komputes> i dunno either
[05:16] <bqmassey> Scunizi: still deciding that..  i recently corrupted my windows filesystem by accidently dropping the batter out of my laptop when i went to pick it up
[05:16] <hhp2k> geirha: Is there any way to enable OpenGL now, or would I have to reconfigure something to do that?
[05:16] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: Who's to say where beryl will be in 2 years.. just need enough to keep up.
[05:16] <MasterShrek> silent, im quite aware, but if you have 512mb ram vs 2 gigs, or a 1.3ghz processor vs dual core 2.4 or something, it doesnt matter what os you have, its going to make a huge difference
[05:16] <komputes> songs addictive
[05:17] <Evanlec> kind of annoying actually
[05:17] <Snuxoll> OK, but no overly-intense 3D stuff like Crysis?
[05:17] <Gun_Smoke> Nope
[05:17] <komputes> chicks pretty hot too, for an uptown girl
[05:17] <silent> MasterShrek, aye, though both will do an admirable job... depending on what you need
[05:17] <Avenger> What is the best binary downloader for newsgroups?
[05:17] <macaco> i need help. how i can ubuntu detect my HTC APACHE 6600 pocket pc? i use dmesg to but i don't see USB conecction
[05:17] <Scunizi> bqmassey, ouch!
[05:17] <silent> either will work for basic tasks
[05:17] <TheGoodKid> !info pan | Avenger
[05:17] <ubotu> avenger: pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version 0.120-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 781 kB, installed size 3272 kB
[05:17] <bqmassey> Scunizi: and i'm pissed at windows anyways... so i'm thinking about a complete conversion
[05:17] <Snuxoll> Give me five minutes and I'll give you an estimate
[05:17] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: msg me
[05:17] <Snuxoll> Wireless?
[05:17] <MasterShrek> Snuxoll, build from newegg, its probably got the best deals around
[05:18] <Snuxoll> I am building from newegg
[05:18] <Scunizi> bqmassey, If you decide you still need windows later you can always install it in a Virtual Machine and run it in a window insite of Ubuntu.
[05:18] <Avenger> thanks goodkid, i'll check it out
[05:18] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: would save me a trip to newegg
[05:18] <cafuego> Unless you're not in the US.
[05:18] <Snuxoll> I am in the US
[05:18] <Snuxoll> Gun_Smoke: So, you do want Wireless?
[05:18] <geirha> hhp2k: you need to install libgl-dev libglu-dev etc...
[05:18] <Gun_Smoke> sure
[05:18] <bqmassey> Scunizi: i just don't know if i can do that because i dont know of any good iTunes replacements for linux. and i need to work in photoshop every once in a while
[05:19] <MasterShrek> gimp for photoshop, and amarok for itunes
[05:19] <Evanlec> bqmassey, its not that bad trust me
[05:19] <Scunizi> bqmassey, amorak will sync with ipods ,.. with the exception of the newer ipods.
[05:19] <Xenguy> bqmassey: run windows under linux via virtual machines, e.g. Virtualbox or Vmware etc.
[05:19] <hhp2k> geirha: Basically all the OpenGL packages?
[05:19] <Evanlec> bqmassey, i have vista still installed, havent booted it in a month
[05:19] <Gun_Smoke> bqmassey: GIMP is your friend
[05:19] <akincer> Amazon DRM-free music + gtkpod can be a decent replacement
[05:19] <Snuxoll> Vista FTL
[05:19] <Xenguy> bqmassey: but only if you must :-)
[05:19] <Snuxoll> Rhythmbox > GTKPod
[05:19] <bqmassey> MasterShrek: i can't stand GIMP.. too much experience with photoshop
[05:19] <geirha> hhp2k: the development packages at least, but they probably depend on all the rest of the gl packages, so ... yes :)
[05:20] <Snuxoll> I love GIMP.....I just wish it had layer styles...
[05:20] <akincer> Rhytmbox = how many times can you lock my sound up today?
[05:20] <akincer> at least for me
[05:20] <Snuxoll> akincer: Try Banshee then
[05:20] <Scunizi> bqmassey, try gimpshop, it's gimp where the menu's have been rearranged to mimic photoshop
[05:20] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, im gonna have to agree with massey on the gimp, find it irrtating coming from photoshop
[05:20] <MasterShrek> akincer, use audacious
[05:20] <Snuxoll> If that doesn't work, try Amarok
[05:20] <bqmassey> are those VM things free?
[05:20] <Evanlec> Scunizi, no shit? been wonderin about that
[05:20] <akincer> with Xen yes
[05:20] <MasterShrek> i dont do much image editing or anything, so it works for the little that i do
[05:20] <Scunizi> bqmassey, VM is free..
[05:20] <Snuxoll> Gun_Smoke, check your PM's
[05:20] <Evanlec> bqmassey, everything with ubuntu is free
[05:20] <Gun_Smoke> Never seen photoshop.. Only know GIMP... And I don't do much
[05:21] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, okay you've never seen photoshop? i find that hard to believe but, we're comin from two different worlds then
[05:21] <Scunizi> bqmassey, I currently have a dual boot with winxp and run win2kpro in a VM inside of my Ubuntu for work.. the xp install is just for games.
[05:21] <MasterShrek> Snuxoll, you need to be regged to send pm's, just so u konw
[05:21] <noor> oh man ff8 theme song rox
[05:21] <bqmassey> i just like that itunes keeps my ipod firmware up-to-date and syncs automatically
[05:21] <Snuxoll> I am regged
[05:22] <Snuxoll> I never get on IRC without nickserv
[05:22] <Scunizi> bqmassey, nice feature, but they lock you in.
[05:22] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, just cuz the firmware is newer doesnt make it better
[05:22] <MasterShrek> !latest
[05:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:22] <akincer> Make no mistake: as Linux market share grows, Apple WILL release iTunes for Linux.
[05:22] <hhp2k> geirha: Selecting some lib packages requires me to uninstall nvidia-glx.. I definitely don't want to do that :\
[05:22] <MasterShrek> akincer, i bet they will, it would only make sense for them to
[05:22] <akincer> Especially when Amazon.com releases their software for Linux
[05:22] <Evanlec> Scunizi, u using VMware or virtualbox ?
[05:22] <komputes> steve1: wow new wolf sux, sorry for the blinded recommendation did you get your game to work
[05:22] <geirha> hhp2k: hm, which packages is that?
[05:22] <JD_> Are there any programmers in here? I'm trying to find a Java compiler...
[05:22] <hhp2k> geirha: Selecting glide liib packages for opengl makes this happen. Do I need glide?
[05:23] <Scunizi> Evanlec, VMWare Server.
[05:23] <geirha> hhp2k: it should be enough to just selecting the libgl*-dev packages
[05:23] <MasterShrek> JD_, try javac if you have it installed already
[05:23] <akincer> VMWare ESX rocks
[05:23] <Evanlec> bqmassey, you will be able to sync your itunes on ubuntu np
[05:23] <hhp2k> geirha: Okay. We'll see what happens
[05:23] <MasterShrek> else u need jdk
[05:23] <MasterShrek> akincer, esx is pretty sexy, but not for personal use
[05:23] <akincer> No, of course not
[05:23] <Scunizi> akincer, is ESX GPL'd or something similar?
[05:23] <Evanlec> Scunizi, ever try vbox? i heard it was faster...which means a lot when it comes to virtual machines in my opinion
[05:23] <CheeseGardener> if I download the beta of 7.10, will I still be able to update to the full 7.10 when it's released on the 18th, from the beta?
[05:23] <thekernel> #ubuntu-mx
[05:23] <bqmassey> Scunizi: does running windows in a VM inside Ubuntu work well?  windows still responsive and no major errors?
[05:23] <akincer> No, it isn't
[05:23] <hhp2k> geirha: Woah, now it's telling me it's going to remove xorg.. jeez
[05:23] <MasterShrek> vbox is good i guess, i use qemu qith kvm
[05:23] <Snuxoll> VBox is the best VM software out there
[05:24] <MasterShrek> vbox is built of qemu i guess
[05:24] <MasterShrek> can vbox take advantage of kvm?
[05:24] <macaco> please help how synchronize ubuntu in my pocket pc HTC Apache 6600
[05:24] <Evanlec> CheeseGardener, you will have the full release in your panel ;p
[05:24] <Snuxoll> VBox does use kernel acceleration, yes MasterShrek, however not through KVM or KQEMU
[05:24] <Scunizi> Evanlec, bqmassey .. VMWare runs win2kpro just as fast as if it was insalled on it's own machine.. no problems whatever with speed.
[05:24] <CheeseGardener> Evanlec, what do you mean I will have the full release in my panel?
[05:24] <hhp2k> geirha: De-selected xorg for uninstallation. Installing other packages now
[05:24] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, kvm?
[05:25] <geirha> hhp2k: hm... I see there's a libglu1-xorg-dev, you probably don't need that one
[05:25] <MasterShrek> kernel virtual machine
[05:25] <MasterShrek> !kvm
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <akincer> Scunizi:VMware isn't GPL'ed. At least not their own secret sauce. It is built on an old Red Hat version
[05:25] <twiple> bqmassey: I run a WindowsXP in VMware Server inside Ubuntu and it works very well
[05:25] <Evanlec> Scunizi, well okay but that all depends on what ur using it for, of course not games
[05:25] <MasterShrek> !info kvm
[05:25] <ubotu> kvm: Full virtualization on x86 hardware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:16-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 474 kB, installed size 1440 kB
[05:25] <bqmassey> Scunizi, twiple: would iTunes be able to access/update my iPod if it was running in a VM?
[05:25] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, yes
[05:25] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, is that a replacement for vmware ?
[05:25] <Scunizi> Evanlec, that's why I have a dual boot.. for games.. win2k is just for accessing some work programs that need windows including some websites.
[05:26] <macaco> please help how synchronize ubuntu in my pocket pc HTC Apache 6600
[05:26] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, qemu is the actual program, kvm is a kernel module that makes it run smoother
[05:26] <Scunizi> bqmassey, yes.. if windows is running in a VM it doesn't know it at all..
[05:26] <CheeseGardener> Evanlec, what do you mean I will have the full release in my panel?
[05:26] <Evanlec> CheeseGardener, i mean the answer to your question is yes
[05:27] <MasterShrek> twiple, vmware is good, very easy to use, but when its not in use, its still got processes running, which tends to slow things down, maybe not to the point where you would notice it right away, but if u arent using vmware, theres no sense for vmware services to be running
[05:27] <Scunizi> bqmassey, also you don't have to go through the pain of loading motherboard drivers, video drivers, usb drivers etc..
[05:27] <CheeseGardener> Evanlec, is the beta fairly stable now?  I heard it was risky to update.  Or is it mostly finished, and waiting to be released?
[05:27] <bqmassey> Scunizi, MasterShrek: that's pretty crazy... if I could photoshop and use iTunes while in ubuntu...  i have no reason to install xp.. I don't game much anymore
[05:27] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, what would u recommend for running winxp?
[05:27] <Scunizi> bqmassey, there you go!  Time to convert!
[05:27] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, yep, i use ms visual studio on my xp vm
[05:27] <Evanlec> CheeseGardener, it will be release on the 18th...im just gonna wait, only 1 more week
[05:27] <akincer> bqmassey, that time is fast approaching
[05:27] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, virtualbox
[05:28] <hhp2k> geirha: And we have life! =D Thanks for your help.
[05:28] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, sweet, i think im going to try that, running photoshop thru wine makes me want to throw things
[05:28] <MasterShrek> CheeseGardener, it should be ok now, im running just fine
[05:28] <bqmassey> Scunizi, MasterShrek: when you use a VM.. do you install XP on it's own partition and then run it in ubuntu? how's that work?
[05:28] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i hear ya there haha
[05:28] <luis> hello all
[05:28] <luis> does anyone know if I can put music into my ipod in ubuntu?
 In the latest version of VMware Server  you can use a USB device, but I am not sure iPod can work well.
[05:28] <Scunizi> bqmassey, I recently reinstalled xp on a machine and it took about 2.5 hrs start to finish with all the drivers. Of Course that included 13 reboots during updates.
[05:28] <akincer> luis: yes you absolutely can
[05:29] <luis> woot
[05:29] <macaco> please help how synchronize ubuntu in my pocket pc HTC Apache 6600
[05:29] <luis> with what programme?
[05:29] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, it makes a virual hard drive, just a file or series of files on your hard drive, u can choose how big u want it, usually 8-10 gigs, and in vmware it can be broken up into 2 gig pieces
[05:29] <geirha> hhp2k: \o/
[05:29] <Scunizi> bqmassey, no.. load the VM program and install.. into just a few files
[05:29] <akincer> I've used gtkpod to do it. Others may offer you a "better" one
[05:29] <MasterShrek> luis, amarok
[05:29] <luis> where can I get these?
[05:29] <Scunizi> bqmassey, easy to copy backup etc, even put on another machine.
[05:29] <MasterShrek> luis, sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:29] <luis> do they come bundled with ubuntu? or can someone give me the commands to install them please
[05:30] <_dan_> hi guys, i have this problem with samba: when i mount a directory via sshfs inside a samba share, and then connect to that samba share, samba wont show me the mounted dir. why and how can i fix it
[05:30] <luis> danke
[05:30] <akincer> You can use the command line or the synaptic package manager
[05:30] <adamkili> akincer and luis: is it true amarok and other third party tools don't work with the 6th generation? (the touch, classic, video nanos?)
[05:30] <MasterShrek> i think thats true adamkili
[05:30] <akincer> I've heard it WAS true, but that someone broke through that nonsense
[05:30] <bqmassey> Scunizi, MasterShrek: awesome, thanks for the advice
[05:30] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, ahh whats the package name for virtualbox
[05:30] <luis> omg omg, this thing needs to hurry
[05:30] <macaco> any one here know how i can synchronize my pocket pc
[05:31] <h1st0> Evanlec: there isn't one in ubuntu
[05:31] <luis> I need to get this stuff inyo my ipod quick
[05:31] <luis> lol
[05:31] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, isnt it virtualbox?
[05:31] <h1st0> Evanlec: you have to download the deb from there site
[05:31] <MasterShrek> h1st0, im pretty sure there is
[05:31] <Evanlec> h1st0, i thot for sure
[05:31] <Scunizi> bqmassey, go for it.. the worst that can happen is you decide to reformat and go back to the old way... :(
[05:31] <h1st0> !virtualbox
[05:31] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[05:31] <luis> master shrek
[05:31] <MasterShrek> hmm
[05:31] <MasterShrek> luis
[05:31] <h1st0> Evanlec: MasterShrek see
[05:31] <adamkili> ya i knew someone would crack the DRM crap but still, just wondering.
[05:31] <luis> and after I install amarok, it'll be available from  the toolbar?
[05:31] <MasterShrek> ok, i believe you h1st0
[05:31] <h1st0> !ipod > luis
[05:31] <MasterShrek> =P
[05:32] <akincer> adamkili:you would obviously want to do some testing to verify
[05:32] <MasterShrek> should be luis
[05:32] <h1st0> You just download the deb and double click it its a painless process
[05:32] <luis> ok, danke schon
[05:32] <macaco> any one here know how i can synchronize my pocket pc  PM please
[05:32] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, is there a way to have vbox use an existing windows installation, like a "thin" installation sorta
[05:32] <h1st0> There are how ever virtual box packages in gutsy
[05:32] <Evanlec> h1st0, gotta be kiddin me! argh
[05:32] <MasterShrek> h1st0, maybe thats what i was thinking of, i am running gutsy
[05:33] <adamkili> akincer: except I've never had or plan on getting a ipod cause there's no music subscription service
[05:33] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i think u can use a physical partition, it may mess with trying to boot that partition later tho
[05:33] <h1st0> Evanlec: you can just download the deb from their site its  a small package and it allows for easy removal
[05:33] <h1st0> Evanlec: its a pita to set up with the hardware changing etc...
[05:33] <bqmassey> Scunizi: lol yea.. out of curiousity.. if i install xp on a seperate partition is there any way to boot it while inside of unbuntu?
[05:33] <h1st0> Evanlec: I've seen howtos online on how to do it though.
[05:33] <komputes> Question, anyone know an application that will prompt me if an application tries to connect to the net!
[05:33] <akincer> admakili: If you want an iPod, but not their music store, Amazon.com is selling DRM-free music now. I've used it and it works great if you purchase one song at a time
[05:34] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, yes, but its not recommended
[05:34] <Evanlec> h1st0, really? thin install not so easy then?
[05:34] <bqmassey> MasterShrek: why's that?
[05:34] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, its easy to do, but not really smart
[05:34] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, why noot?
[05:34] <chetnick> you guys any good action games for linux?
[05:34] <h1st0> Evanlec: because the hardware on the virtual machine will be different than the actual hardware in yoru pc
[05:34] <luis> ahhhh verdammt
[05:34] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, bqmassey when the vm loads it, its different hardware that windows sees, therefore it needs to load different drivers and such each time, and we all know how windows deals with change
[05:34] <luis> this thing is still unpacking
[05:35] <bqmassey> MasterShrek: oh, alright.. that makes sense
[05:35] <Evanlec> chetnick, enemy-territory or quake 4
[05:35] <h1st0> Evanlec: http://kimchimik.humandroids.net/2007/10/02/how-to-run-virtualbox-using-a-physical-partition-using-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/
[05:35] <MasterShrek> chetnick, saurbraten
[05:35] <chetnick> thanks for advise
[05:35] <chetnick> will try it
[05:35] <chetnick> :)
[05:35] <luis> it's installed, tahnks master shrek
[05:35] <MasterShrek> sauerbraten**
[05:35] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, yea that does sound like a nightmare, it could then screw up booting the actual windows partition?
[05:35] <akincer> Isn't there a Quake3 version for Linux too?
[05:35] <komputes> Utility that warns you when an app requires WAN access? Anyone?
[05:36] <h1st0> Evanlec: aparently you can create a seperate hardware profile to avoid problems
[05:36] <macaco> any one here know how i can synchronize my pocket pc  PM please
[05:36] <geirha> chetnick: some windows games will work too, using wine. if you search for the game at http://appdb.winehq.com , you can see how well it works
[05:36] <MasterShrek> it could Evanlec, it may not, but it could
[05:36] <chetnick> well i install CS
[05:36] <macaco> No one help me :(
[05:36] <chetnick> but no sound
[05:36] <chetnick> and cat fix it
[05:36] <chetnick> cant*
[05:36] <akincer> macaco:I've tried getting a pocket pc syncing. I'd rather have tobasco sauce poured in my eyes than try to work through that nightmare. There is allegedly some people working on that. Don't hold your breath though
[05:36] <h1st0> Evanlec: although the link I gave you doesn't explain how to create a seperate hardware profile but that is pretty much a must if you read that page.
[05:37] <chetnick> dont know what is going on
[05:37] <h1st0> !sound > chetnick
[05:37] <chetnick> with that audio on CS over Wine
[05:37] <silent> I love how people use the ubotu flags... like sound is always simple
[05:37] <h1st0> chetnick: audio works fine it maybe that you have to configure wine's sound secion.  Try hitting alt+f2 and launching winecfg
[05:37] <macaco> :(
[05:37] <Evanlec> h1st0, i have a vista installation, he claims on that page that vista doesnt allow u to create hardware profiles...that ture?
[05:37] <geirha> chetnick: have you checked the CS page at appdb.winehq.org? might be some bug reports on that
[05:38] <h1st0> Evanlec: I have no idea about vista
[05:38] <chetnick> tired various combinations on the winecfg audio settings
[05:38] <chetnick> nothing seems to work
[05:38] <akincer> macaco:I did actually get some communication going, but could never make anything of it
[05:38] <h1st0> chetnick: try asking in #winehq
[05:38] <chetnick> ok
[05:38] <chetnick> thansk
[05:38] <chetnick> thanks*
[05:38] <h1st0> !enter > chetnick
[05:39] <macaco> well thx for you time akincer
[05:39] <macaco> bye all
[05:39] <akincer> no problem
[05:39] <akincer> later
[05:39] <bqmassey> I assume running windows in a VM would require activating windows within the VM, correct?
[05:40] <akincer> If you already have a valid windows image, use P2V and you won't
[05:40] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, yes
[05:40] <Evanlec> akincer, p2v? ;o
[05:40] <h1st0> bqmassey: yes unless you use some hacked version such as tinyxp
[05:40] <komputes> so, any replacement for ZoneAlarm on linux?
[05:40] <akincer> or so I've heard
[05:40] <h1st0> !virus | komputes
[05:40] <ubotu> komputes: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:40] <h1st0> !firewall | komputes
[05:40] <ubotu> komputes: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:40] <h1st0> sry
[05:40] <Evanlec> h1st0, i have the vista install...can i transfer license from it to my vm?
[05:40] <komputes> no i wanted the popup
[05:41] <h1st0> Evanlec: I no nothing about vista sry.
[05:41] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, no probably not, but if u have an xp disc, i can give u a key...
[05:41] <akincer> Evanlec: Have you tried p2v and it didn't work?
[05:41] <komputes> you know Your Program is trying to access the internet (yes/no)
[05:41] <Evanlec> komputes, lol...firestarter works fine...but u dont really need a firewall for ubuntu
[05:41] <komputes> i want to restrict certain apps from using the net
[05:41] <Evanlec> akincer, no i dont even know what p2v is
[05:41] <MasterShrek> komputes, i know what you mean, but ive never found anything like that in linux, and u really dont need it
[05:41] <h1st0> !piracy > MasterShrek
[05:41] <bqmassey> i'm just wondering if I could activate my copy since i've already done it on my machine...
[05:41] <akincer> Physical to Virtual
[05:41] <MasterShrek> =D
[05:41] <bqmassey> and it will think the hardware is different
[05:41] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, oh i can get hacked keys no problem lol
[05:42] <komputes> actually, i do need it
[05:42] <Avenger> i know this is gonna sound stupid because i'm really new to ubuntu but how do you find out how much hard drive space there is in the GUI?
[05:42] <komputes> thats why i asked
[05:42] <MasterShrek> !piracy > Evanlec
[05:42] <MasterShrek> =P
[05:42] <h1st0> bqmassey: read what people are saying about p2v
[05:42] <Evanlec> yea yea
[05:42] <Evanlec> sry
[05:42] <MasterShrek> lol
[05:42] <Evanlec> hey atleast its just pirating windows!
[05:42] <komputes> so hw do you restrict an app internet use.
[05:42] <MasterShrek> Avenger, there shold be somthing under system>administration
[05:42] <h1st0> komputes: read the message from ubotu about iptables
[05:42] <oli_> Anyone here know how to clone a stereo audio source to the rear speakers?
[05:42] <MasterShrek> Avenger, but if you type: df     in a terminal it will tell you also
[05:43] <Frogzoo> Avenger: if you add a 'system monitor' applet to your toolbar, you can right click it to open it & select file systems
[05:43] <Avenger> system monitor works
[05:43] <Evanlec> h1st0, is p2v only for vmware?
[05:43] <Avenger> thanks guys!
[05:43] <h1st0> Evanlec: dunno never used it.
[05:44] <komputes> h1st0:I don't want to block the IP, I want to restrict Application network access
[05:44] <Avenger> ok one more question and then i'm done.  Can PAN be used to download .rar files?
[05:44] <Evanlec> komputes, zonealarm and those apps are terrible in my opinion, linux networking is usually a little more raw, ur gonna be blocking ports and setting rules yourself
[05:44] <MasterShrek> komputes, just close the program, problem solved, programs dont stay open like in windows
[05:44] <Evanlec> Avenger, u can use anything to download .rar files...and u can use 7zip to extract them, for free
[05:45] <Avenger> from a newsgroup server.
[05:45] <komputes> how do you set rule : Program X do not connect to outside internet
[05:45] <Evanlec> komputes, i would try Firestarter
[05:45] <komputes> k
[05:45] <Evanlec> !firestarter | komputes
[05:45] <ubotu> komputes: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:45] <Evanlec> oops
[05:45] <Evanlec> i meant
[05:45] <twiple> Avenger: yes, there are many softwares can extract .rar files.
[05:45] <Evanlec> !info | firestarter
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <Evanlec> oops bah
[05:45] <Evanlec> !info firestarter | komputes
[05:45] <ubotu> komputes: firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 396 kB, installed size 1920 kB
[05:45] <Avenger> any tutorials on the net work d/l files from a newsgroup server in Ubuntu?
[05:46] <komputes> Ya IP tables are IP based, I need Apptable, lol
[05:46] <Avenger> for*
[05:46] <Evanlec> Avenger, im sure there are hundreds
[05:46] <twiple> Avenger: 7-ZIP is a open source software.
[05:46] <Avenger> Google...here I come!
[05:46] <MasterShrek> Avenger, search in synaptic
[05:46] <Frogzoo> komputes: sys -> admin -> login window -> remote - x disabled
[05:46] <joseph> I think I must be crazy running a triple boot system with Vista, Ubuntu and PCLinux OS
[05:46] <ubuntu> is anyone else having problems connecting to a network when setting up newly installed ubuntu?
[05:46] <Evanlec> newsgroups? those are like as old as email
[05:47] <Avenger> well i have the .nzb file, i just can't figure out how to import it into an app
[05:47] <Evanlec> linux was designed around e-mail lol
[05:47] <MasterShrek> joseph, its not what i would call 'sane' lol
[05:47] <komputes> frogzoo: not all apps just one of them
[05:47] <Evanlec> joseph, how do u like PCLOS? i have vista nd ubuntu...
[05:47] <komputes> think firestarter may work
[05:47] <akincer> Evanlec: I'm not sure. Looking into it
[05:47] <MasterShrek> i dont know why pclinuxos is #1 on distrowatch
[05:48] <Avenger> <3 Linux
[05:48] <jonny> is anyone else having problems connecting to a network when setting up newly installed ubuntu?
[05:48] <Avenger> hellanzb works great
[05:48] <twiple> joseph: I have Vista on my laptop and I run Ubuntu in VMware Server.
[05:49] <joseph> Well master shrek one thing it handles my wireless when no other distro would
[05:49] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i dunno either, they aggressively promote it, ever read the pclos magazine?
[05:49] <geirha> komputes: have you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80428
[05:49] <AncientRelic> Just got a new laptop, Compaq F730US GeForce 6100 Chipset, the LiveCD doesn't boot
[05:50] <Frogzoo> jonny: hardly - what seems to be your problem?
[05:50] <Evanlec> joseph, u tried ndiswrapper ?
[05:50] <MasterShrek> no Evanlec
[05:50] <akincer> jonny: my network card will NOT auto enable on boot. I have to manually do it.
[05:50] <MasterShrek> joseph, where did u get it from? the website? did u pay for it?
[05:50] <Frogzoo> akincer: jonny: check your /etc/network/interfaces settings
[05:51] <jonny> well i set up a static ip in network settings, but i have to play around with the settings before it finally kicks off
[05:51] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i read one issue, the first article was all this BS about how this guy gave PCLOS, Ubuntu and like Mandriva to a bunch of "newbies" and they all said they liked pclos and ubuntu was too hard lol
[05:51] <jonny> it's like starting a bad lawnmower
[05:51] <MasterShrek> lol
[05:51] <MasterShrek> noobs...
[05:51] <jonny> noobs
[05:51] <MasterShrek> =P
[05:51] <jonny> lol
[05:51] <Frogzoo> jonny: pebcak - pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[05:51] <Evanlec> heh
[05:51] <akincer> Frogzoo: I've never bothered since I rarely reboot
[05:52] <Evanlec> i mean, if ubuntu is too hard...maybe they should try gentoo or slackware
[05:52] <akincer> LOL
[05:52] <shimizu> LLOL
[05:52] <Evanlec> ;p
[05:52] <shimizu> go straight freebsd
[05:52] <Frogzoo> meh - try windows
[05:52] <AncientRelic> Evanlec: gentoo is definitely the n00best distro
[05:52] <Evanlec> or that ;p
[05:52] <jonny> auto lo
[05:52] <jonny> iface lo inet loopback
[05:52] <jonny> auto eth1
[05:52] <jonny> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[05:52] <jonny> auto eth2
[05:52] <jonny> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[05:52] <akincer> Screw that. Xenix. Go for nostalgia
[05:52] <jonny> auto ath0
[05:52] <jonny> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[05:52] <jonny> auto wlan0
[05:52] <Evanlec> AncientRelic, really? i heard otherwise in #linux
[05:52] <Frogzoo> !pastebin | jonny
[05:52] <ubotu> jonny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:52] <jonny> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[05:52] <AncientRelic> akincer: Coherent
[05:52] <jonny> iface eth0 inet static
[05:52] <jonny> address 10.254.4.101
[05:52] <jonny> netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:53] <jonny> gateway 10.254.4.1
[05:53] <jonny> auto eth0
[05:53] <Frogzoo> oh god.
[05:53] <bqmassey> will the new version of Ubuntu have all of the effects that are in this vid:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w
[05:53] <jonny> noobs
[05:53] <AncientRelic> Evanlec: ;)
[05:53] <jonny> lol
[05:53] <Evanlec> !pastebin | jonny
[05:53] <Frogzoo> jonny: not in channel - you spam everyone else out
[05:53] <Evanlec> bqmassey, yes
[05:53] <akincer> Never messed with Coherent
[05:53] <jonny> !pastebin auto lo
[05:53] <jonny> iface lo inet loopback
[05:53] <jonny> auto eth1
[05:53] <jonny> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[05:53] <jonny> auto eth2
[05:53] <jonny> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[05:53] <jonny> auto ath0
[05:53] <jonny> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[05:53] <MasterShrek> !ops
[05:53] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:53] <jonny> auto wlan0
[05:53] <jonny> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[05:53] <jonny> iface eth0 inet static
[05:53] <Evanlec> lol shrek
[05:53] <jonny> address 10.254.4.101
[05:54] <AncientRelic> akincer: or Minix, or Amoeba
[05:54] <bqmassey> Evanlec: i really like the blur, and the circular window switchting
[05:54] <AncientRelic> akincer: or OS-9
[05:54] <Evanlec> bqmassey, oh and its as fun as it looks too
[05:54] <akincer> AncientRelic: I had the pleasure (or pain?) of modifying the memory manager in Minix
[05:54] <rob> jonny, that command does not send something to a pastebin
[05:54] <AncientRelic> oh god, I'm dating myself
[05:54] <bqmassey> Evanlec: :D
[05:54] <rob> !pastebin > jonny
[05:54] <rob> !pastebin | jonny
[05:54] <silent> jonny, that was a very interesting piece of literature. I assume that was /etc/network/interfaces no?
[05:55] <ubotu> jonny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:55] <bqmassey> Evanlec: will they be on the disc, or do you have to add them after install
[05:55] <Evanlec> akincer, it looks like using a physical partition is a pain in the arse, and if i cant game with a vm anyway...why bother? just wanna run photoshop mostly
[05:55] <Evanlec> bqmassey, if u use Gutsy, they come pre-installed
[05:55] <Frogzoo> !gutsy
[05:55] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[05:55] <Evanlec> lol silent
[05:55] <AncientRelic> any suggestions on getting my liveCD to boot?
[05:55] <joseph> I installed a copy of 7.10 today to see if it works better with wireless
[05:55] <MasterShrek> AncientRelic, put it in your drive and reboot
[05:56] <akincer> Evanlec: I'd say Adobe will release Photoshop for Linux in 2010. Maybe 2009 depending on how Dell, HP and Lenovo box sales go
[05:56] <geirha> AncientRelic: insert it into the coffeecup holder ;)
[05:56] <AncientRelic> MasterShrek: Gee, never would have thought of that ;)
[05:56] <sh> hi
[05:56] <jonny> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40327/
[05:56] <MasterShrek> joseph, what kind of wireless card do you have?
[05:56] <localgod11> ok lil help
[05:56] <Evanlec> AncientRelic, if it really wont boot, you shold probably try the alternate cd
[05:56] <MasterShrek> =P
[05:56] <localgod11> i was intalling VMware
[05:56] <AncientRelic> evanlec: OK I'll download that
[05:56] <geirha> AncientRelic: does it give any error message when you try to boot?
[05:56] <Evanlec> LOL @ AncientRelic
[05:56] <sh> i'm having trouble opening email
[05:56] <localgod11> can anyone help me with VMware
[05:56] <akincer> Coffee cup holder. An oldie but a goodie
[05:56] <akincer> What do you want to know localgod11?
[05:56] <sh> firefox just closes whenever i click a link
[05:56] <localgod11> i installed it using http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Vista_Installation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html
[05:56] <AncientRelic> akincer: The mouse as a foot pedal is a classic to me
[05:56] <bqmassey> i really hope my computer can handle all of that
[05:56] <Evanlec> oh jesus "trouble opening email" sounds like a windows user problem
[05:57] <akincer> LOL
[05:57] <Evanlec> heh
[05:57] <localgod11> now vista goes TU when i try to boot
[05:57] <localgod11> either in VM or out
[05:57] <akincer> Ahhh, that's outside my realm. I'm an ESX junkie. Not much beyond that
[05:57] <AncientRelic> localgod11: are you sure that's not normal? ;)
[05:57] <MasterShrek> localgod11, sounds about right
[05:57] <localgod11> it worked before
[05:57] <jonny> ok frogzoo it's been pasted
[05:58] <localgod11> whats esx
[05:58] <Evanlec> akincer, yea, or they may never release ps for linux, but running it thru wine...not a big fan of it
[05:58] <silent> Evanlec, I set up a media center pc for watching movies on our TV... she thought linux was going to be complicated... but after a < 1 minute tutorial... "that's it??" "Wow that's really nice... its easier than windows!"
[05:58] <sh> can anyone help
[05:58] <MasterShrek> localgod11, at some point people will realize the one time you try to mess with a windows install, its probably going to destroy it, 90% of the time, thats the case
[05:58] <Avariel> join/ #C
[05:58] <AncientRelic> silent: www.geexbox.org
[05:58] <localgod11> thaaanks
[05:58] <Avariel> join\ #C
[05:58] <geirha> jonny: do you have more than one NIC?
[05:58] <akincer> Evanlec: If the market materializes, they WILL release for it. They'd be stupid not to
[05:58] <MasterShrek> Avariel, /join
[05:58] <localgod11> ok can you tell me how to reinstall it without trashin linux?
[05:58] <jonny> i have wireless as well, but that's not the problem
[05:59] <danroj> hi
[05:59] <Frogzoo> jonny: once you learn to use pastebin & post the url here, I'll take a look
[05:59] <jonny> i've had this problem since warty
[05:59] <Frogzoo> !pastebin | jonny
[05:59] <ubotu> jonny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:59] <MasterShrek> !grub | localgod11
[05:59] <ubotu> localgod11: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:59] <jonny> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40327/
[05:59] <akincer> localgod11: ESX is VMWare's big box enterprise server edition
[05:59] <geirha> Frogzoo: he did paste url to pastebin
[05:59] <danroj> http://danroj.obolog.com
[05:59] <bqmassey> Pentium M 1.6ghz / 512mb RAM / ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 TurboPro       think that will be able to handle all of the effects in 7.10?
[05:59] <MasterShrek> localgod11, you will lose grub after you install windows, but afterwards you can boot your livecd and reinstall grub
[05:59] <Snuxoll> Well, I've done it, I have made the ~$600(before assembly and re-shipping) awesome Ubuntu PC
[06:00] <jonny> took me a minute to learn it.
[06:00] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, it should, only problem u may have is setting up that ati card, but it shouldnt be too bad
[06:00] <adamkili> so, um, I used a hard drive in this one laptop I have to test if another laptop I have works (it does), and I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to get the X server working on the other laptop, but when I took the hard drive back to my other laptop, ran that command again, and got the x server running, compiz effects stopped working. any ideas on how to fix this? i tried instructions to get compiz to work on ubuntu 6.10 (I have 7
[06:00] <adamkili> .04) and they worked when I had version 6.10, but they didn't this time
[06:00] <localgod11> ok so i reinstall vista and use the live to reinstall grub?
[06:00] <cfedde> bqmassey: you'd be surprised how many it does do in comparison to Vista.
[06:00] <akincer> Bed time. Later all
[06:00] <localgod11> how
[06:00] <bqmassey> Snuxoll: what are the components
[06:00] <Evanlec> akincer, lates
[06:00] <geirha> jonny: it could be that the wireless card registers as eth0, while your wired card is eth1
[06:00] <bqmassey> MasterShrek: good to hear
[06:00] <jonny> hmm
[06:00] <Evanlec> bqmassey, yap
[06:00] <geirha> jonny: lshw -class network     in a terminal should display which is which
[06:00] <Frogzoo> jonny: which is your nic, and do you need all those other interfaces there eth1, ath0 etc.?
[06:01] <localgod11> got it
[06:01] <MasterShrek> jonny, also iwconfig will tell you which ones have wireless extensions
[06:01] <Evanlec> bqmassey, linux runs muuuch better on older hardware than windows
[06:01] <ubuntu> test
[06:01] <n08l3J> hello ubuntu folks
[06:01] <Frogzoo> ubuntu: pass conceded
[06:01] <MasterShrek> ubuntu, test passed
[06:01] <Snuxoll> bqmassey: Hold on
[06:01] <localgod11> ok anyone know how to pull this off with vista?http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html
[06:01] <n08l3J> I have a question, when i try the live CD the wireless connection works
[06:01] <n08l3J> but when i boot up in the system
[06:01] <n08l3J> it doesn't work
[06:01] <MasterShrek> n08l3J, what kind of wireless card?
[06:02] <ubuntu> try for ubuntu ultimate live cd
[06:02] <Evanlec> ubuntu, no do not try for that
[06:02] <jonny> ok pasted the iwconfig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40328/
[06:02] <xcst> !doesn't work frostwire
[06:02] <bqmassey> Evanlec: that hasn't been my experience in the past.. but i've always had it as the last partition on the drive... Suse.. and i probably didn't have everything set up right
[06:02] <Frogzoo> xcst: frostwire works - what's your problem?
[06:02] <jonny> well i've been having this problem for a while...i'll pull the wireless card and try again, but i feel like i've run into this problem minus wireless card
[06:03] <xcst> Frogzoo, my download stops, like for example if im downloading more than 1 file
[06:03] <localgod11> ok better yet how do i stop VM when it hits the BSOD?
[06:03] <Evanlec> bqmassey, well, suffice to say some distros are lighter than others, but most of them can be trimmed and optimized almost infinitely for speed
[06:03] <n08l3J> Its Broadcom
[06:03] <danroj> http://danroj.obolog.com
[06:03] <n08l3J> 440X10/100 Integrated Controller
[06:03] <Frogzoo> jonny: no need to change hardware, but remove the redundant interfaces from the interfaces file - and for the 2nd time, which is your nic you're trying to enable - eth0?
[06:03] <MasterShrek> n00dl3, i think thats wired, but i could be wrong
[06:03] <jarrod_> !nic
[06:03] <bruenig> ubuntu is one of the slower distro, especially in boot time, good jesus allah on boot time
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <bruenig> distros*
[06:04] <n08l3J> lol allah on boot time
[06:04] <jarrod_> what is a nic card
[06:04] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, thats most definitely wired ... 10/100
[06:04] <localgod11> akincer--hello?
[06:04] <jonny> frogzoo, eth0 is the correct and enabled nic
[06:04] <Evanlec> jarrod_, nic card is a network interface card...
[06:04] <bqmassey> Evanlec: yeah, i'm sure that's true... i'm pretty linux-stupid... i could never get anything installed if Yast wouldn't do it
[06:04] <danroj> mira Georgy32
[06:04] <MasterShrek> yea i guess Evanlec i didnt see that, just looked at the 44 part, 43 is wirless
[06:04] <n08l3J> nic card is Intel Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[06:04] <ubuntu> selamat berpuasa
[06:05] <localgod11> does anyone know how to stop VM when it gets an error instead of ahving it reboot?
[06:05] <n08l3J> i m sorry the broadcom is the etherenet port
[06:05] <Frogzoo> jonny: try this instead: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40329/
[06:05] <geirha> jonny: have you set up /etc/resolv.conf with the nameservers?
[06:05] <jarrod_> Evanlec: umbrela term for: ethernet card/ enternal modum etc?
[06:05] <cfedde> bruenig: I've seen some installs that realy take a long time to boot.  But since I've not been in charge of a system that has this problem I've not solved it het.
[06:05] <MasterShrek> n08l3J, im thinking u need firmware, search synaptic for ipw
[06:05] <Evanlec> jarrod_, just ethernet card
[06:05] <localgod11> does anyone know how to stop VM when it gets an error instead of ahving it reboot?
[06:05] <Snuxoll> ~$600 Ubuntu PC: https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.asp?ID=8515907
[06:06] <mikeo2> anyone here have expierence setting up SElinux?
[06:06] <n08l3J> how would i do that MasterShrek
[06:06] <bruenig> cfedde, no, not installs that take a long time to boot (I am not talking about live cd). I mean once it gets installed, makes you cry with its speed.
[06:06] <localgod11> does anyone know how to stop VM when it gets an error instead of ahving it reboot?
[06:06] <bruenig> or lack of speed
[06:06] <jarrod_> Evanlec: is saying "ethernet card" incorrect then?
[06:06] <Evanlec> Snuxoll, link dont work
[06:06] <bruenig> localgod11, human being, we heard you 4 times ago, calm down
[06:06] <Snuxoll> grrr
[06:06] <Evanlec> jarrod_, no either is fine
[06:06] <localgod11> sorry
[06:06] <MasterShrek> n08l3J, im not really sure, ive never done an intel chip before, but that shold help you get started, get the firmware
[06:07] <MasterShrek> localgod11, not really, can u take a screenshot?
[06:07] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: give us the nickel description, should get that in 1 line
[06:07] <coco> hello
[06:07] <n08l3J> hm.... i think i should boot in the ubuntu and login from the desktop
[06:07] <jonny> i think we're good frogzoo.  it's just the mass of unused nics registered in interface file
[06:08] <coco> anyone who can help me with linux
[06:08] <n08l3J> i be back when i am in the ubuntu
[06:08] <MasterShrek> !ask | coco
[06:08] <ubotu> coco: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:08] <MasterShrek> brb
[06:08] <Snuxoll> 2G Ram, 2.2GhZ dual-core CPU, 256MB x1500 video card, nice airflow, wifi card, 160GB HD, DVD burner
[06:08] <bruenig> coco, might try ##linux
[06:08] <azzman> whats up coco
[06:08] <coco> thank you
[06:08] <MasterShrek> Snuxoll, sexy
[06:08] <Avariel>  If a computer has 8 bit addressability, but has an address space of 2^28 memory locations...how do you possibly store a 28 bit address in 8-bit locations ?
[06:08] <coco> i need to delet some files from a NTFS partition
[06:08] <bruenig> !enter
[06:08] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:09] <bruenig> !ntfs
[06:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:09] <Snuxoll> Anyone wanna buy one? :P
[06:09] <coco> windows crap
[06:09] <coco> it sucks
[06:09] <bruenig> !ot | coco
[06:09] <ubotu> coco: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:09] <Evanlec> x1500 video card? sounds kinda chincy to me
[06:09] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: not too bad
[06:09] <Evanlec> !ntfs | coco
[06:09] <coco> it wont let me do it because its read only
[06:09] <ubotu> coco: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:10] <garrett__> Is there a php5-xslt package anywhere?
[06:10] <Snuxoll> x1500 is a great budget card
[06:10] <Snuxoll> It runs beryl and most games just fine
[06:10] <Evanlec> i wasnt even aware ati made an x1500
[06:10] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: So's my GeForce 7300GT
[06:10] <Evanlec> sure u got that right?
[06:10] <Snuxoll> I see no need for an Ubuntu machine for a 8600GTS
[06:10] <coco> i can see the partition but it don let me delet anything
[06:10] <Snuxoll> Yes, I am sure Evanlec
[06:10] <localgod11> coco try this http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite.html
[06:10] <AncientRelic> snuxoll: got a link to the card?
[06:10] <Snuxoll> *X1050
[06:10] <Evanlec> true, but...christ atleast i dunno, a gforce 7 series
[06:10] <Snuxoll> Read it wrong
[06:11] <Snuxoll> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814241048
[06:11] <Evanlec> and Snuxoll i would go with nvidia either way, better driver support
[06:11] <garrett__> or is php5+xslt something that has to be compiled manually?
[06:11] <AncientRelic> Evanlec: I actually have Gutsy beta running stable on a X300SE card
[06:11] <coco> ok im very new to UNIX. thank you ill see whats on it
[06:11] <AncientRelic> its improved a lot
[06:11] <Snuxoll> Evanlec: Duh.....I think I picked the ATI card on accident
[06:11] <AJ--> ei guys..need help here... i followd the ubuntu guide in install lamp server.. buy still i cant get my php to work.. apache2 is ok.. wat seems to be the problem???
[06:11] <Evanlec> AncientRelic, well i dont doubt that
[06:11] <Snuxoll> Lemme change it with and NVidia...
[06:12] <Frogzoo> !docs | coco
[06:12] <ubotu> coco: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[06:13] <decay> Is there a way to do s verbose mode when installing? it freezes at 87%
[06:13] <Frogzoo> AMD will probably make linux drivers for ATI a happening thing but it will need 12 months
[06:13] <MasterShrek> decay, did u check the cd for defects?
[06:13] <bruenig> !alternate | decay
[06:13] <ubotu> decay: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[06:13] <AJ--> ei guys..need help here... i followd the ubuntu guide in install lamp server.. buy still i cant get my php to work.. apache2 is ok.. wat seems to be the problem???
[06:14] <jonny> thanks for helping out this noob guys, adios
[06:14] <endlessurf> uuid does anyone know anything about this utility?
 !docs | coco
[06:14] <coco> ???
[06:14] <MasterShrek> !uuid
[06:14] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:14] <coco> docs??
[06:14] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130026
[06:15] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: Now that's an entry level Linux card
[06:15] <endlessurf> mastershrek do you know?
[06:15] <coco> i see
[06:15] <Snuxoll> Grr....can't figure out how to make my wishlist public
[06:15] <coco> ADMIN
[06:15] <MasterShrek> endlessurf, its not a utility, its just a way of identifying seperate hard drives and partitions
[06:15] <decay> MasterShrek, no.
[06:15] <decay> bruenig, thanks
[06:16] <Snuxoll> Give me your email if you want to see the machine, I'll send the wishlist then
[06:16] <endlessurf> can it identify usb devices?
[06:16] <MasterShrek> maybe endlessurf
[06:16] <Gun_Smoke> Is it possible to set up a RAID 1 with an external HD?
[06:17] <Snuxoll> I'm trying to get my pc-builder buisiness going here :P
[06:17] <endlessurf> mastershrek you seem to know more about ubuntu, i was wondering if you can look at my post on the forums and try to help me
[06:17] <MasterShrek> whats it about endlessurf
[06:17] <endlessurf> mastershrek i've been trying to get help for over a week with no luck
[06:17] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: you've got PM
[06:18] <ArtVandalae> endlessurf: what's the problem?
[06:18] <Snuxoll> Yes, I can PM
[06:18] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: you HAVE a PM
[06:18] <endlessurf> mastershrek http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3511924#poststop
[06:18] <Snuxoll> Nope
[06:18] <Joseph> Has anybody tried 7.10 on a Laptop with a Broadcom chipset?
[06:18] <underwatercow> What does it mean when a character in the character map is designated as "<Private Use">?
[06:18] <AncientRelic> joseph: I'm trying it now
[06:18] <Snuxoll> Joseph: My current machine uses a bcm43xx chip
[06:18] <Snuxoll> It runs just fine
[06:19] <Snuxoll> bcm43xx-fwcutter and wl_apsta.o
[06:19] <endlessurf> ArtVandalae http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3511924#poststop
[06:19] <Snuxoll> http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=8516027
[06:19] <Snuxoll> There we go
[06:19] <Snuxoll> That's the $600 Ubuntu machine
[06:19] <Joseph> This is a rereshing touch I put 7.10 on my desktop machine with a linksys card and the wireless worked with no additional effort
[06:20] <endlessurf> mastershrek ArtVandalae it is for a touch screen computer in my car
[06:20] <jtaylor> Is there any way to skip a file system check on bootup?
[06:20] <Snuxoll> jtaylor: Don't use ext2?
[06:20] <Evanlec> jtaylor, probly but they shouldnt happen very often
[06:20] <MasterShrek> endlessurf, im not really sure, ubuntu and usb devices are not friends, at least not for me lol
[06:20] <jtaylor> Snuxoll, its ext3... the drive is fubar... I need to boot once and grab what I can
[06:20] <Joseph> What did they do with the restricted drivers in 7.10
[06:20] <Snuxoll> Modern-linux filesystems whouldn't need file system checks
[06:21] <Snuxoll> *shouldn't.....typ0
[06:21] <bulmer> why not?
[06:21] <LBO_KEN> hello every body
[06:21] <clmbngbkng> Does anybody know how to set up Samba to share an internal hard drive that is formatted with NTFS? I have it setup to share without a password and it keeps on telling me that it's "not accessible" and "You might not have permission to use this network resource."
[06:21] <Miz> http://dpaste.com/22224/  I'm very confused at "ifequal" being obnoxious.
[06:22] <Miz> whoa, wrong channel.
[06:22] <Miz> sorry.
[06:22] <endlessurf> mastershrek yeah i have had the same problems, it works if my touchscreen is the only one plugged in on start up, i just don't want to have to plug in everything else every time i start up my car
[06:22] <underwatercow> why can't I see certain characters in the character map? it shows a bow with hex in it and says "<Private Use>"
[06:22] <underwatercow> box*
[06:22] <cubesis> anyone know what channel i could ask a question about a AMD CPU??
[06:22] <Nikster> im having issues with the 7.10 driver called rt61pci.. it wont connect to my wireless network, but in 7.04 it used just rt61, which worked fine.. how can i load the old driver into 7.10?
[06:22] <logreeval> cubesis: whats the Q?
[06:22] <ChaosParser> cubesis: what kind of question?
[06:23] <ChaosParser> clmbngbkng: It probably wants you to be root.
[06:23] <cubesis> well i have a L1N64-SLI asus board
[06:23] <MasterShrek> Nikster, blacklist the rt61pci and load rt61
[06:23] <cubesis> and i thought when i bought the cpu it came packaged as 2 cpus
[06:23] <endlessurf> mastershrek it's painful too when it has been over 2 weeks of trying to figure it out and 20+ post and M$ will do it just fine
[06:23] <MasterShrek> !blacklist | Nikster
[06:23] <ubotu> Nikster: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[06:23] <cubesis> but it didn't so i only have one, and i seen a couple forums stating you could run just 1
[06:23] <cubesis> but i am scared that i will eff it up
[06:24] <Nikster> MasterShrek: Thanks, ill look into that!
[06:24] <cubesis> its a dual socket board
[06:24] <n08l3J> MasterShrek, I am on a different machine, I was having the problem of connecting to the wirless Network using the intel 3945 Chip
[06:24] <clmbngbkng> Ok, but the odd thing is that I can share multiple external hard drives with no problem. So how do I set it up so it'll think i'm root?
[06:24] <cubesis> you know about opterons??
[06:24] <MasterShrek> yep n00dl3, figure n e thing out?
[06:24] <clmbngbkng> if you dont know its fine
[06:24] <jasons> Hi everyone anyone know what channel for a gnome question?
[06:24] <MasterShrek> jasons, here
[06:24] <ChaosParser> cubesis: My advice would be.... call Asus and ask.
[06:24] <cubesis> yeah good idea
[06:24] <n08l3J> i am in the ubuntu now
[06:24] <cubesis> but its midnight :(
[06:24] <n08l3J> lets see what happen
[06:25] <bqmassey> *yawn*
[06:25] <n08l3J> What the hell, it started working now
[06:25] <cubesis> and i have been waiting a week :(
[06:25] <n08l3J> for some reason didn't want to work before
[06:25] <n08l3J> thats weird
[06:25] <n08l3J> well as its working now, any tips for the general ubuntu system ?
[06:26] <MasterShrek> !tips
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tips - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <mikeo2> anyone know of a good ubuntu friendly tv card?
[06:26] <MasterShrek> nope guess not =P
[06:26] <n08l3J> Bot doesn't know tips
[06:26] <n08l3J> lol
[06:27] <Evanlec> mikeo2, i hear the hauppegauge ones are great
[06:27] <mikeo2> i have the leadtek tv2000xp rm but it hasn't been working consistently in linux lately and breaks every so often
[06:27] <localgod11> ok anyone know how to do a screen cap in Vmware >?
[06:28] <n08l3J> Now I want to configure my sound card, when i click on the volume button, it says that volume control did not find any elements to control
[06:28] <mikeo2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814122221
[06:28] <n08l3J> how should i deal with this problem ?
[06:28] <LBO_KEN> hi all i need help im trying to install ubuntu on my  pc ( masus m2n-mx se , 1 gig ram,) but when i start the cd its loaded then  i get a  x window error,  the ubuntu is the   one that is avalaible to download (i downloaeded it 2 days ago)
[06:28] <LBO_KEN> masus= asus
[06:28] <Evanlec> mikeo2, thats about all i know about tv-cards, sorry ;p
[06:29] <jasons> All the launchers on the desktop are now .desktop files and are text files? I just installed and have been installing stuff like crazy so I don't know how I broke the desktop.
[06:29] <n08l3J> how can i change to the development edition to the release candiate of gusty ?
[06:29] <Evanlec> LBO_KEN, try downloading the alternate install cd and use that
[06:29] <LBO_KEN> ok  what will be the difference  ?  just to be sure
[06:30] <Evanlec> n08l3J, it will update automatically, long as u accept the updates it gives u
[06:30] <Evanlec> LBO_KEN, no difference, just uses a text-based installer
[06:30] <n08l3J> oh ke thanks for tha Evanlec
[06:30] <LBO_KEN> ok
[06:30] <Evanlec> its actually more configurable and better in my opinion
[06:30] <Evanlec> but everyone's gotta have their "liveCD" ooo wow
[06:30] <n08l3J> When i first boot into that, i saw something regarding the non free drivers for my nividia card to enable the 3D effects
[06:31] <n08l3J> but i don't see it anymore.
[06:31] <LBO_KEN> thanks Evanlec
[06:31] <Evanlec> !nvidia | n08l3J
[06:31] <ubotu> n08l3J: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:31] <LBO_KEN> hope it will work fine :-)
[06:31] <localgod11> ok anyone know a program that can open .cab files?
[06:31] <FatalCure> n08l3J: System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[06:31] <n08l3J> How would i know that the new driver is loaded ?
[06:32] <Evanlec> localgod11, i think u can open cab files with anything
[06:32] <n08l3J> oh Thanks FatalCure, You Rock
[06:32] <n08l3J> its downloading something now :P
[06:32] <localgod11> ii tried it no worky
[06:32] <Evanlec> n08l3J, read the guide
[06:32] <Evanlec> localgod11, did u try 7zip?
[06:32] <FatalCure> n08l3J: cool :)
[06:32] <jtaylor_> Is there any way to skip a forced ext3 disk check?  It gets about half way and I get a bunch of errors... If I could boot once I could get my data off of the LVM drives without having to figure out how to mount them using a rescue CD.  Any way to do this?
[06:32] <n08l3J> I am new to ubuntu, so just a little different things :)
[06:32] <Evanlec> localgod11, search cab under add/remove programs
[06:32] <astro76_> !info cabextract | localgod11
[06:32] <ubotu> localgod11: cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB
[06:32] <dfk-> hi. i got a new MB (Abit ip35) and the built in NIC isn't working. do I need to recompile kernel or something? i have ubuntu 6.10
[06:32] <FatalCure> !info cabextract | localgod11
[06:33] <FatalCure> astro76_: :)
[06:33] <Evanlec> !network | dfk-
[06:33] <ubotu> dfk-: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:33] <localgod11> i searched nothing came up
[06:34] <dfk-> ubotu it's not wireless just plain on board nic
[06:34] <Evanlec> localgod11, sudo apt-get install cabextract
[06:34] <dfk-> Evanlec even
[06:35] <greenmanspirit> does anyone run a vanilla kernel?
[06:35] <Evanlec> dfk-, why dont u just use feisty or gutsy?
[06:35] <Evanlec> greenmanspirit, i know some ppl do, i was thinkng about it but decided it wasnt worth the trouble
[06:35] <wt8008_> is there a reason you want to run a vanilla kernel?
[06:35] <dfk-> i'll give it a try
[06:36] <Evanlec> i wanted to run it for speed / leanness
[06:36] <greenmanspirit> i wanted to compile 2.6.23 to see how the new cfs works
[06:36] <Evanlec> but having a fairly powerful system, it apparently dont make a whole lotta diff
[06:36] <localgod11> ok got the program still cant get at the file
[06:36] <Evanlec> !info cfs
[06:36] <ubotu> cfs: Cryptographic Filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-17 (feisty), package size 181 kB, installed size 568 kB
[06:36] <Evanlec> oh
[06:36] <Evanlec> have no need for such security
[06:37] <greenmanspirit> i mean completely fair schedular
[06:37] <Evanlec> oh
[06:37] <Evanlec> lol
[06:37] <greenmanspirit> linus replaced 01
[06:37] <Evanlec> yea i heard that was sposed to be pretty good
[06:37] <chetnick> hey guys any good download manager ?
[06:37] <Evanlec> doesnt gutsy have 2.6.22 ?
[06:37] <Evanlec> chetnick, yea, firefox ;)
[06:38] <chetnick> heheh :)
[06:38] <greenmanspirit> I forget which one it has, but i'm guessing its .22
[06:38] <Evanlec> i used downthemall a little, but no point really
[06:38] <mistatwista> i'm having a problem with a bcm4318 wireless card using ndiswrapper
[06:38] <chetnick> Evanlec you cant resume your download with firefox
[06:38] <chetnick> ?
[06:38] <Evanlec> greenmanspirit, im not sure either, is it only in .23 and not .22 ? cuz gutsy comes with .22 i think
[06:38] <[mayh3m] pt> I can't get my desktop to spin like a cube. Whats the problem?!
[06:39] <Evanlec> chetnick, i think u can...depends, but yea there are tons of download managers, just search firefox extensions
[06:39] <mistatwista> when it trys to connect, half the time it wont connect at all, and sometimes i can get it to work by turning off the wireless on the laptop with fn-f3 and turning it back on
[06:39] <greenmanspirit> its just in .23, but there are patch's that let the older kernels use it
[06:39] <riotkittie> [mayh3m] pt:  try #ubuntu-effects for compiz(-fusion)/beryl help
[06:39] <chetnick> ok
[06:39] <localgod11>  !info cfs
[06:39] <ubotu> cfs: Cryptographic Filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-17 (feisty), package size 181 kB, installed size 568 kB
[06:39] <cubesis> anyone have a Asus L1N64-SLI motherboard??
[06:39] <localgod11> what does  !info cfs mean?
[06:40] <Evanlec> it has the bot spit out info about cfs
[06:40] <G_Nine> 2.6.22.14 (gutsy)
[06:41] <localgod11> ok so i got the program to open the cab file but it still wont open
[06:41] <localgod11> archive manager doesnt recogize it
[06:42] <Nikster> any way i can get the old feisty rt61 driver into gutsy? cause the one in gutsy doesent work for me
[06:42] <cubesis> can anyone help me with a server pc question? i mean anyone that has worked with dual socket boards
[06:43] <Evanlec> localgod11, look for the program in your application menu
[06:43] <localgod11> i used sudo apt-get install cabextract
[06:43] <localgod11> said it already was there
[06:43] <localgod11> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:43] <Evanlec> it is there, but u have to open the cab file using the cabextract program
[06:44] <digitalsky> hello all.
[06:44] <goalieca> anyone else getting /sbin/modprobe abnormal exit.. SATA race condition with new kernel??
[06:44] <Evanlec> or do 'man cabextract'
[06:44] <goalieca> having to use feisty's instead of gutsy's
[06:44] <digitalsky> i'm new to kubuntu and was wondering if someone here could help me understand memory issues
[06:44] <localgod11> where would i find the program?
[06:44] <mistatwista> anyone know why a wireless driver would work perfectly sometime and hafto be coaxed into working other times(ndiswrapper, and bcm4318)
[06:44] <DShepherd> !info cabextract
[06:44] <ubotu> cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB
[06:45] <localgod11> i have it i just cant find it
[06:45] <DShepherd> localgod11, you need to enable the universe repository
[06:45] <n2diy> digitalsky: if you want an answer, you have to ask a question.
[06:45] <digitalsky> i'm running the latest kubuntu just as a server. i have configured a LAMP server + gallery2 with only a few pics. For some reason i see my memory (using "top") usage is near 1GB (I only have 1GB)...
[06:45] <digitalsky> almost 100%
[06:45] <Newbuntu2> Hello
[06:45] <Evanlec> mistatwista, cuz that is the nature of hardware and driver support
[06:45] <localgod11> i used man cabextrac and it seems to have sprung something to life
[06:45] <Buicklesaber> hi
[06:46] <digitalsky> right now it's not bad, after i restarted: Mem:   1035828k total,   462808k used,   573020k free,    83836k buffers
[06:46] <mistatwista> so, there's nothing I can do about it until there's better support?
[06:46] <Nikster> can anyone help me install the old rt61 driver into gutsy? cause gutsys rt61pci doesent work for me.. it wont connect
[06:46] <localgod11> any ideas where it put the files
[06:46] <Evanlec> mistatwista, have u looked?
[06:46] <Newbuntu2> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a laptop, but it has trouble reading the live cd (I tried multiple downloads/cd burns). Is there a way to but the live CD on a USB drive?
[06:46] <greenmanspirit> man i just saw that there was an ext4 file system, anyone know anything about it?
[06:46] <mistatwista> yes, found nothing thus far.
[06:46] <n2diy> digitalsky: and what is the problem?
[06:46] <digitalsky> the biggest user seems to be 4632 mysql     15   0  125m  19m 5456 S  0.0  2.0   0:05.93 mysqld
[06:46] <digitalsky> , but that's still a far cry from 1GB
[06:46] <digitalsky> i'm just wondering what's using up all the memory
[06:47] <bqmassey> digitalsky: probably windows
[06:47] <digitalsky> windows?
[06:47] <digitalsky> what do u mean?
[06:47] <Evanlec> mistatwista, there are a shitload of wireless cards based on bcm4318 , there's probably hundreds of pages of information about how to install those drivers on linux
[06:47] <n2diy> digitalsky: so there isn't a problem, just a concern over memory usage?
[06:47] <digitalsky> yup
[06:47] <localgod11> ok so i used man cabextrac  any idea it did something but i cant find the files
[06:47] <Buicklesaber> anybody ever of desktop launchers changing to .desktop files in gnome?
[06:47] <DShepherd> digitalsky, run top and sort my memory usage
[06:48] <digitalsky> how do i sort by mem usage?
[06:48] <LBO_KEN> wb Bhaal
[06:48] <n2diy> digitalsky: Ok, it isn't broke. And the memory you bought is being well used. :)
[06:48] <Evanlec> !info htop | digitalsky
[06:48] <ubotu> digitalsky: htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 172 kB
[06:48] <mistatwista> Evanlec, i have the driver installed, but it seems to have a mind of its own when connecting...sometimes it works perfectly
[06:48] <astro76> digitalsky, that's normal, linux keeps stuff cached in ram and frees it when needed, basically taking advantage of that ram you paid good money for, type "free -m" to check
[06:49] <Evanlec> mistatwista, are u using encryption?
[06:49] <DShepherd> localgod11, cabextract <file.cab> #that should extract the cab file. I am assuming that's what you want to do
[06:49] <Joseph> If I have a tripple boot system with windows and 2 linux distros where do I find the menu.lst file if I'm using the grub loader
[06:49] <digitalsky> hmm that's what i hoped is happening
[06:49] <Frogzoo> digitalsky: if you run top/htop - hit M
[06:49] <_Office> ok anyone no y unbuntu has drop to 18 mo support on 7.10?
[06:49] <digitalsky> i'm used to windows which always shows a lot of mem still available
[06:49] <localgod11> where will it extract to?
[06:50] <FatalCure> digitalsky: Linux will use memory for disk cache if it's available.  Have a look at the output of "free".  The second row of numbers doesn't include buffer/cache usage
[06:50] <n2diy> digitalsky: What apps. are you running?
[06:50] <Frogzoo> _Office: think 18 mo is standard for non LTS?
[06:50] <riotkittie> Joseph: did you look in /boot/grub/
[06:50] <digitalsky> free: Mem:          1011        464        546          0         82        252
[06:50] <cdm10> _Office: non-lts releases are always supported for only 18 mo
[06:50] <mistatwista> Evanlec, yes, wpa
[06:50] <digitalsky> oooo  top (M) helps
[06:50] <idefix> so, about the mailto...
[06:50] <digitalsky> where can i paste my results?
[06:50] <idefix> it has been scrolled out of existence!
[06:51] <FatalCure> !pastebin | digitalsky
[06:51] <ubotu> digitalsky: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:51] <n2diy> ! paste | digitalsky
[06:51] <Evanlec> mistatwista, okay then using ndiswrapper is a must , and thats probably where your problem lies
[06:51] <digitalsky> pastebin
[06:51] <cdm10> it wasn't THAT big a paste.
[06:51] <_Office> Frogzoo, can I ask then y is 6.10 being supported in tell 2011
[06:52] <cdm10> _Office: It isn't.
[06:52] <digitalsky> umm i just pasted in ubuntu pastebin
[06:52] <cdm10> _Office: maybe 6.06 is, but not 6.10
[06:52] <n2diy> cdm10: he wants to paste top
[06:52] <FatalCure> cdm10: no, he asked -> 14:49 < digitalsky> where can i paste my results?
[06:52] <digitalsky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40330/
[06:52] <sadmin> hey guys am feeling u ubuntu system slow
[06:52] <cdm10> n2diy: ah.
[06:52] <riotkittie> theyre not !pasting him for that. he wanted to know where he would paste the output of top
[06:52] <sadmin> whay i need to check
[06:52] <sadmin> any ideA
[06:52] <cdm10> FatalCure: ok, sorry, missed that.
[06:52] <digitalsky> wow apache is taking up a lot
[06:52] <FatalCure> cdm10: s'cool, np :)
[06:52] <Joseph> I looked in the boot/grub on the last install of linux and the boot/grub of the previous version and can't find the menu.lst it is using
[06:52] <Frogzoo> !lts | _Office
[06:52] <ubotu> _Office: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[06:53] <Newbuntu2> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a laptop, but it has trouble reading the live cd (I tried multiple downloads/cd burns). Is there a way to but the live CD on a USB drive?
[06:53] <digitalsky> hmm i don't even use xorg (i never log on with GUI, just ssh). is there a way to turn it off?
[06:53] <alecw2> How do I remove unused dependencies from my ubuntu system?
[06:53] <cdm10> alecw2: sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:54] <G_Nine> is your support expiring in 18 months?  grab a snicker
[06:54] <_Office> Frogzoo, thanks Due we no when the next LTS version will be release?
[06:54] <digitalsky> were u guys able to see my paste?
[06:54] <mistatwista> Evanlec, thanks...going to compile the new version of ndiswrapper and hope that works
[06:54] <astro76> _Office, 8.04 will be lTS
[06:54] <riotkittie> _Office: april
[06:55] <Evanlec> mistatwista, k, good luck
[06:55] <riotkittie> good luck, mistatwista :D
[06:55] <n08l3J> How can i configure or test my sound card with different drivers available ?
[06:55] <G_Nine> there is a ubuntu server edition,...
[06:55] <n2diy> digitalsky: nope, you have to copy and post the URL here.
[06:55] <alecw2> cdm10: Thanks. This is what it's telling me:   libqt4-core libqt4-gui libungif4g linux-headers-2.6.22-13
[06:55] <alecw2>   linux-headers-2.6.22-13-generic
[06:55] <digitalsky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40330/
[06:55] <Frogzoo> _Office: we don't - expect gutsy+1/2
[06:55] <_Office> Thanks again I wound update servers tell 8.04 then
[06:55] <cdm10> alecw2: well, if those are unneeded, it'll remove them.
[06:55] <_Office> IC thankds
[06:55] <_Office> thanks
[06:56] <alecw2> cdm10: Thanks!
[06:56] <digitalsky> G_Nine were u talking to me?
[06:56] <n08l3J> anyone with the help regarding my soundcard ?
[06:56] <Joseph> I am half tempted to try 7.10 on my laptop which uses the broadcom chipset since it worked on the desktop but it uses the ralink chipset
[06:56] <sandra> cew_15
[06:56] <cdm10> Joseph: Wait 6 days :)
[06:56] <alecw2> I'm looking for a simple animation program. I just want to animate simple things... stick figures, ect. Nothing the size of Flash. Can someone suggest an app?
[06:56] <digitalsky> n2diy: are you able to see my link? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40330/
[06:56] <alecw2> !animation > alecw2
[06:56] <sandra> #surabaya
[06:56] <ChaosParser> Joseph: It works on my broadcom wireless on my notebook.
[06:57] <G_Nine> freedom of information
[06:57] <A_is_A> Ok, I've updated to gutsy, and gparted wil not start, and i cannot mount my sdb1
[06:57] <Joseph> Chaos did you have to do ndiswrapper or anything?
[06:57] <riotkittie> A_is_A: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support, please
[06:57] <ChaosParser> Joseph:  Nope.
[06:57] <A_is_A> thnx
[06:57] <n2diy> digitalsky: yes, I just brought it up. Nothing is using more than 3% of your memory, whats the problem?
[06:57] <Joseph> Which Broadcom?
[06:57] <Joseph> Or more like which laptop
[06:58] <ChaosParser> Joseph: The dreaded Dell 1390 POS.
[06:58] <Joseph> I have a HP Ze series
[06:58] <sandra> join surabaya
[06:58] <steve__> I'm doing the distro upgrade to 7.10 and it seems to have frozen on "configuring wvdial". It's been sitting there for about half an hour now. Is it hosed or what?
[06:58] <ChaosParser> Joseph: Dell 1390 WLAN MiniPCI is the name of the card, but it;s in an Acer Aspire 5570z
[06:58] <digitalsky> oh i was just worried cuz i'm not used to seeing >90% of my mem used in windows (yesterday i saw 1GB used)
[06:58] <digitalsky> if it's normal then great! i'd rather the OS make full use of my RAM
[06:59] <ChaosParser> digitalsky: That's.....not how it works?
[06:59] <_Office> Joseph, Broadcom is easy to get working but I have to go home to the wife now maybe tomorrow if you dont get it running I can get you going.. we have 6 laptops with the chip
[06:59] <Joseph> I'm going to have to try it on the laptop and see what happens worst is I have to reinstall another version of linux lol
[06:59] <n2diy> digitalsky: If things are working ok, don't sweat it.
[06:59] <_Office> gn all
[06:59] <digitalsky> i dunno... in windows i always have a ton of ram available
[07:00] <digitalsky> cool thanks guys! you've been very helpful
[07:00] <Buicklesaber> caccan anyone  tell me a better place for a gnome question? seems like all system in here.
[07:00] <ChaosParser> digitalsky: You mean used?
[07:00] <n2diy> Buicklesaber: #gnome
[07:01] <digitalsky> ChaosParser: umm no. what i mean is I'm not used to seeing so much ram used in windows. so when i see almost all my ram is used up in kubuntu, i'm worried.
[07:01] <coco_> THANK YOU ALL THOSE WHO HELPED ME WITH THE NTFS PARTITION SETUP
[07:01] <Buicklesaber> cool night all
[07:01] <coco_> linux rocks
[07:01] <Fructose> I installed ntfs-config and ntfs-3g, but even using sudo, I can't write to this drive: /dev/sdb3 on /media/SharedNTFS type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,umask=222,utf8)
[07:01] <Fructose> But it says rw, so what's wrong?
[07:02] <ChaosParser> digitalsky: Kubuntu is using MORE ram than windows?  What on earth did you do?
[07:02] <astro76> ChaosParser, that is perfectly normal, and has been thoroughly answered for digitalsky
[07:02] <coco_> i did too
[07:03] <coco_> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite.html#
[07:03] <digitalsky> ChaosParser: yea... maybe i have too many processes running
[07:03] <ferronica> i have an .ISO file , i want to add some files in it or replace it is it posssible to do it in ubuntu 7.04 GNOME ?
[07:03] <digitalsky> ok time to continue to learn about configuring ubuntu. thanks!
[07:04] <ChaosParser> astro76: Isn't KDE supposed to use less ram than Gnome?
[07:04] <ChaosParser> astro76: In theory?
[07:04] <coco_> lol thats the way a nub like me is doing it
[07:04] <astro76> ChaosParser, not by any means, it's being used by disk cache
[07:05] <steve_lam> I'm not able to ping anything, but my internet still works. I've been using Nessus and Netcat, could that have messed with something?
[07:05] <komputes> Does Cinerella support HD video 1080i?
[07:05] <rav> Hey, first was up? Second. I have a problem with a Nvidia card i have been trying to install ALL day. i finally got it working, BUT, when i go into NVIDIA settings it says You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.  but when i follow those instructions, it makes me use NVIDIA driver, which does not work, then i have to re modify xorg.
[07:05] <ChaosParser> astro76: Thanks for the info.  Obviously I haven't spend any time with KDE.  ;)
[07:06] <ravihp> i wanna share my drievs ,files,folders from ubuntu..which to use nfs or samba?
[07:06] <feliciano> I connect a HD to my PC... its have two partitions fat32, One is reading ok, but the another one send me this messege "mount: /dev/hdb5/: can't read superblock" I have very valuable information, because that is my backup partition in a PC with win2000... please help me I need recover that files
[07:06] <ravihp> that must be accessible for windows users
[07:06] <ravihp> i wanna share my drievs ,files,folders from ubuntu..which to use nfs or samba?
[07:06] <steve_lam> anyone?
[07:07] <ravihp> how to share drives to LAN?
[07:07] <digitalsky> sorry steve_lam, don't know
[07:07] <frostburn> ravihp, samba is easiest to share among windows pcs
[07:07] <digitalsky> ravihp: samba for windows
[07:07] <frostburn> ravihp, right click a folder, share
[07:07] <ferronica> i have an .ISO file , i want to add some files in it or replace it is it posssible to do it in ubuntu 7.04 GNOME ?
[07:07] <steve_lam> it's alright
[07:07] <digitalsky> steve_lam: but i'm a newb so u should wait for others to answer
[07:08] <ravihp> what the difference b/w samba and nfs
[07:08] <siimo> whats Gobuntu? is that GOOGLE Ubuntu?
[07:08] <rav> How do i enable direct rendering on my card?
[07:08] <guido> steve_lam: what do you have inside /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
[07:08] <feliciano> PLEASE HELP ME
[07:08] <steve_lam> let me check
[07:08] <ravihp> what the difference b/w samba and nfs
[07:08] <frostburn> ravihp, samba is more configurable and nfs is primarily used between nix machines
[07:08] <guido> ok
[07:08] <sadmin> helo guys am feeling slowness in my ubuntu machine
[07:08] <sadmin> what i need to check
[07:09] <sadmin> my firefox loading my java website is real slow
[07:09] <alecw2> I'm looking for a fun/easy to learn/professional animation application for linux. Is there such a thing?
[07:09] <ravihp> thanks dude<frostburn>
[07:09] <LBO_KEN> bye al
[07:09] <astro76> siimo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobuntu
[07:09] <LBO_KEN> all
[07:09] <rav> alexw2: got to add/remove and look for there
[07:09] <steve_lam> guido: proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all   was empty
[07:09] <ech0dish> http://houston.craigslist.org/stp/446746700.html
[07:09] <sandra__> eyeeeeee
[07:09] <alecw2> rav: me?
[07:09] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps...when i open an .iso with file-roller ... the file names have ;1 at the end and am unable to modify (add/remove) files
[07:09] <rav> yeah you
[07:09] <steve_lam> I'm able to ping localhost
[07:10] <guido> it was only an idea
[07:10] <alecw2> rav: I'm looking for actual first person suggestions, but i will look there. thanks! :)
[07:12] <Tech-Mike> any help?
[07:13] <cubesis> looks like gobuntu wouldn't be so great
[07:13] <ravihp> i installed beryl from synaptic package manager ..but it is not working....i am not getting any effects
[07:13] <guido> Tech-Mike can you mount an iso file like a normal hd
[07:14] <guido> mount -t iso9660
[07:14] <guido> ?
[07:14] <ravihp> i installed beryl from synaptic package manager ..but it is not working....i am not getting any effects
[07:14] <lunz> how to update latest software and security for ubuntu feisty fawn?
[07:14] <guido> you can mount it in rw mode
[07:14] <Tech-Mike> yes with sudo mount file.iso /media/cdrom -o loop
[07:14] <lunz> how to add latest repositories indexes?
[07:14] <guido> see man mount
[07:15] <guido> i not remember how, but i know you can do it
[07:15] <Tech-Mike> i just said...
[07:15] <Kudak> lunz: either use the System > Administration > Update Manager, or type "apt-get update" in command line
[07:15] <Tech-Mike> yes with sudo mount file.iso /media/cdrom -o loop
[07:16] <decay> is there a way to not install language packs?
[07:16] <Evanlec> sweet, got vista runnin on vbox
[07:17] <Evanlec> have one operating system on 1 monitor, another on the 2nd...how pimp is that
[07:17] <Kudak> lunz: did it help you ?
[07:17] <james296> can anyone plz tell me whats up with the doc.gwos.org website and how long it has been down for?
[07:17] <lunz> nope
[07:17] <lunz> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry  maindeb/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[07:18] <Fructose> Anyone know how to enable writes to an NTFS partition? I thought I installed the right software, but I'm still told it's a "Read-only file system"
[07:18] <lunz> kudak:failed to fetch
[07:18] <G_Nine> Evanlec, not much
[07:19] <lunz> kudak:failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/Release: Unable to find expected entry  maindeb/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[07:19] <bullgard4> English help wanted: Is the English name of the menu item 'network roaming activated'? In: Gnome Panel > NetworkManager applet (left-click) > Network Administration Tool > Links > (Cable Links) 'network roaming activated'?
[07:19] <Evanlec> G_Nine, well i think its pretty exciting, wont have to use photoshop thru Wine anymore
[07:19] <riddlebox> what is the best app to create a slide show with?
[07:19] <Nomolas> The process udevd takes sometimes up to 75 CPU. is tthat normal en what can I do?
[07:19] <G_Nine> oh.. that.. ok.. good for you
[07:20] <Kudak> lunz: when you use the update manager, the software sources is directly linked to that
[07:20] <Evanlec> G_Nine, i sense some sarcasm, but thanks
[07:20] <lunz> kudak:then why fail to fetch it?
[07:20] <Kudak> lunz: open software sources
[07:20] <Gun_Smoke> Can you do a RAID 1 with an external HD via USB or FW?
[07:20] <lunz> kudak :opening now
[07:21] <G_Nine> jedi like even
[07:21] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, maybe but that would not be advisable
[07:21] <lunz> kudak :what should i look for?
[07:21] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, better to use rsync
[07:21] <Gun_Smoke> rsync?
[07:22] <Evanlec> !info rsync | Gun_Smoke
[07:22] <ubotu> gun_smoke: rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-3ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 255 kB, installed size 500 kB
[07:22] <alecw2> I'm looking for a 2D Vector animating application. Any suggestions? :)
[07:22] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, yep, it synchronizes files
[07:22] <Kudak> lunz: is the universe repository enabled ?
[07:22] <Dr_willis> !info unison
[07:22] <ubotu> unison: A file-synchronization tool for Unix and Windows. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.13.16-6ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 469 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[07:22] <ravihp> beryl is not working ?does anyone know it?
[07:22] <Snuxoll> Evanlec: It syncronizes them from a REMOTE SERVER
[07:22] <Snuxoll> It's not a Disk-to-Disk copy program
[07:22] <Snuxoll> Might as well cp -r to do that
[07:23] <Evanlec> Snuxoll, oh really? i thot it could be used as a backup program
[07:23] <ravihp> Is there any supporting software to be installed?
[07:23] <Evanlec> my bad
[07:23] <Snuxoll> Nope
[07:23] <lunz> kudak :where should i look for universal repository?
[07:23] <james296> can anyone plz tell me whats up with the doc.gwos.org website and how long it has been down for?
[07:23] <Evanlec> isnt there an app that auto syncs any modified files?
[07:23] <Gun_Smoke> Evanlec: More like real time back up than actual RAID then?
[07:23] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, correct
[07:23] <heguru> alecw2: synfig studio
[07:24] <Kudak> lunz: on the first tab there should be community repository....(universe)
[07:24] <Kudak> lunz: should be the 2nd line
[07:24] <Snuxoll> Gun_Smoke: If you want to backup to a 160, might as well make a cron job that cp -r's a directory to the drive
[07:24] <james296> anyone? anyone?
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[07:24] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, well i spose u could try setting up a softraid 1 ... i wouldnt tho, the usb drive will slow you down
[07:24] <Snuxoll> Like I said, cron job that cp -r's the files
[07:25] <Gun_Smoke> Evanlec: And firewire?
[07:25] <lunz> kudak:first tab is ubuntu software,first line is cannical main
[07:25] <heguru> Evanlec: rsync can and should be used even for local synchronization of files
[07:25] <Snuxoll> heguru: Really?
[07:25] <Evanlec> heguru, oh? so i WAS right
[07:25] <lunz> kudak:second line is community maintain universe
[07:25] <heguru> Snuxoll: yes :)
[07:25] <Kudak> lunz: yup thats the one, is it enabled ?
[07:26] <lunz> kudak:yes
[07:26] <lachyg> Hello; can anyone please tell me what exactly "use keypad with unicode additions (arrows and math operators)" does? I am unable to see any difference when it is enabled, nor when using the compose key.
[07:26] <Snuxoll> I didn't think RSync could do directory-to-directory
[07:26] <ravihp> how to get beryl?
[07:26] <Kudak> lunz: try changing server and do revert
[07:26] <Evanlec> yea, and id think rsync would be better cuz it dont copy over all the files, just modified ones
[07:26] <Dr_willis> !beryl
[07:26] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: Interested in the cron but more less looking into playing with some for of RAID as a learing tool.
[07:26] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:26] <heguru> Snuxoll: it can, and that too very well
[07:26] <Snuxoll> Well then, you'd still want a cron job for that
[07:26] <alecw2> heguru: synfig? Is that free?
[07:26] <lunz> kudak:ok
[07:26] <Snuxoll> Gun_Smoke: If you wanted a RAID, you'll want two internal disks
[07:26] <heguru> alecw2: yes, its part of the repositories as well
[07:26] <Dr_willis> ravihp,  given that gutsy will be released soon with compiz in by default. It may not be worth the effort to mess with beryl  under  Feisty
[07:27] <alecw2> what's the command to isntall it heguru?
[07:27] <Snuxoll> Internal + USB is not a good way to do it
[07:27] <heguru> alecw2: sudo apt-get install synfigstudio
[07:27] <Snuxoll> s/USB/Firewire
[07:27] <Gun_Smoke> Hammer and chisel the xHD? lol
[07:27] <ravihp> thanks <ubotu>but i want to know list of channels..
[07:27] <Nomolas> The process udevd takes sometimes up to 75 CPU. is tthat normal en what can I do?
[07:27] <alecw2> heguru: Thanks a lot! Have you tried it? IS it good?
[07:27] <heguru> Snuxoll: i second that, internal + external RAID1 can be really messy
[07:27] <heguru> Snuxoll: though technically possible
[07:28] <heguru> ^^Gun_Smoke
[07:28] <Snuxoll> It CAN be done though LVM, but it kills the benifits of having a RAID, namley SPEED
[07:28] <Gun_Smoke> Can I not pull the disk from the ext case and stuff it in the box?
[07:28] <ravihp> how to get list of irc channels?
[07:28] <heguru> alecw2: experimented with it a bit
[07:28] <ravihp> list of irc channels?
[07:28] <Gun_Smoke> ravihp: Google...
[07:28] <Kudak> ravihp: Alt +C
[07:28] <alecw2> heguru: Is it easy to learn? Is there documentation? :)
[07:28] <Snuxoll> Gun_Smoke: What case is it?
[07:28] <heguru> alecw2: I couldn't find export to flash, which was something i was looking for, but again thats possible using external tools, maybe they have export to .swf now
[07:29] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: LaCie
[07:29] <Snuxoll> LaCie what?
[07:29] <Gun_Smoke> Still looking for model number
[07:29] <lachyg> Never mind, I've got it now.
[07:29] <alecw2> heguru: Is there a learning curve?
[07:29] <Nomolas> The process udevd takes sometimes up to 75 CPU. is tthat normal en what can I do?
[07:29] <heguru> alecw2: its quite user friendly, and easy to learn
[07:29] <Snuxoll> Don't worry about model number, just the name of the drive
[07:30] <heguru> alecw2: if you have worked with any animation software, you will feel at home
[07:30] <Snuxoll> LaCie doesn't do 'model numbers' per se'
[07:30] <Snuxoll> http://www.lacie.com/us/products/range.htm?id=10033 <- What one is it?
[07:30] <heguru> alecw2: you might want to check out there website for more info: http://www.synfig.com/
[07:30] <alecw2> heguru, I just downloaded it... it won't start. :( I'm on Gusty Gibbon though.
[07:31] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: Nothing descriptive on the box...
[07:31] <heguru> alecw2: hm, might be some gutsy issue, try this: sudo apt-get install synfig
[07:31] <Kudak> lunz: how did that work for you ?
[07:31] <heguru> alecw2: if that doesn't solve it, ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:31] <Snuxoll> What about that link, what one is it?
[07:31] <dietzbp> plz help...7.04 install issue, cd used on other installs, pentium mmx 512mb ram, hangs up @ 3% after selecting boot/install with various boot options
[07:31] <alecw2> thanks again heguru.
[07:31] <Evanlec> !info synfig
[07:31] <ubotu> synfig: vector-based 2D animation package. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.61.05-8 (feisty), package size 42 kB, installed size 148 kB
[07:31] <abhibera> how do i set an env variable from command line?
[07:31] <lunz> kudak:i changed the server
[07:32] <Snuxoll> abhibera: export [VARIABLE] ="[value] "
[07:32] <Evanlec> heguru, but it cant export to swf? how useful is it really then?
[07:32] <abhibera> Snuxoll: i want to over write it
[07:32] <lunz> kudak:i downloading package information now
[07:32] <Frogzoo> abhibera: env=value
[07:32] <abhibera> Snuxoll: this variable has already been set
[07:32] <Snuxoll> abhibera: Same proccess
[07:32] <Frogzoo> abhibera: or export env=value
[07:32] <Kudak> lunz: so it worked yea? :))
[07:32] <lunz> kudak: but http://debian.linux.org.tw/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/Release: Unable to find expected entry  feisty/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[07:33] <lunz> kudak:the link is not working
[07:33] <heguru> Evanlec: well that was one reason I didn't spend much time on it, I heard they have export to .swf now, didn't verify it though. Well you can still create your own version of southpark on it :D
[07:33] <lunz> try a few server same error..or may the files is not exist?
[07:34] <Evanlec> heguru, lol...it seems like u have to use wine or windows to do flash authoring pretty much
[07:34] <Kudak> lunz: u get that error when u try to check if any updates are available ??
[07:34] <heguru> Evanlec: Flash MX works fine on wine
[07:34] <lunz> kudak:nope
[07:35] <obsolete_> Can I update from the beta 7.10 to the release client via the update manager?
[07:35] <Kudak> lunz: when do you get that error then ? when your trying to do what ?
[07:35] <lunz> kudak:only that files other updates is ok
[07:35] <tom__> obsolete_: yes
[07:35] <Snuxoll> obsolete_: Open up a terminal and: sudo update-manager -d
[07:35] <lunz> kudak:how do i know that my ubuntu is up to date?
[07:35] <Evanlec> heguru, yea i had flash 8 runnin pretty well too, but photoshop cs2 was bein a little flakey, even with the touted better support in .9.46
[07:35] <tom__> lunz: it'll tell you if it needs updating
[07:35] <clmbngbkng> anyone have some suggestions for good html editors? i dont care how clean the code is mainly ease of use and what about a program that could make a photo album program to resize picts and spit them out on a web page
[07:36] <tom__> clmbngbkng: nvu
[07:36] <Kudak> lunz: open update manager (apt-get update) and see if any updates are available, if not, then your computer is up-to-date
[07:36] <lunz> kudak:how do i check my ubuntu version?
[07:36] <lunz> kudak:ok
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> !kompozer | clmbngbkng, tom__
[07:36] <ubotu> clmbngbkng, tom__: kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)
[07:36] <Crush`> does anyone know how to just select the kernel version from uname -r without -generic, -smp, etc
[07:36] <clmbngbkng> tom__ thanks
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> clmbngbkng, tom__: to correct that, it should be in feisty-backports now too.
[07:37] <Evanlec> clmbngbkng, yea id try kompozer if u want easy and messy code yea ;p
[07:37] <lunz> kudak:wait..how to open update manager?
[07:37] <Snuxoll> lunz: click the orange icon in your notification area
[07:37] <clmbngbkng> tonyyarusso so i can do both of what i was asking with kompozer?
[07:37] <Kudak> lunz: System > Administration > Update Manager, or from the command-line type "apt-get update"
[07:37] <lunz> snuxoll:ok
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> clmbngbkng: kompozer is the continuation of the nvu codebase, so if you can do it with nvu, you can do it with fewer bugs with kompozer.
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> clmbngbkng: not sure what you'd use for the photos.
[07:38] <clmbngbkng> tonyyarusso: i'll give it a shot
[07:39] <clmbngbkng> tonyyarusso: i'm looking for something that would work like dreamweaver and fireworks would, they'd do those two together
[07:39] <clmbngbkng> but yeah i'll try it out
[07:39] <n08l3J> I am trying to enable the sound on this machine, but when i click on Test in the sound preferences, it says "Could not open resource for writing" /
[07:39] <lunz> kudak:all updates available only for mysql and error while downloading all repositories indexes..
[07:40] <n08l3J> anyone on what could be this "Could not open resource for writing" is for ?
[07:41] <Snuxoll> n08l3J: First user on the system?
[07:41] <n08l3J> yes sir
[07:41] <obsolete> So I did  update-manager -c -d and it didn't show me that I had an update
[07:41] <obsolete> How do I update from 7.10 beta to 7.10 RC
[07:41] <n08l3J> is there anything i have to do for it Snuxoll ?
[07:41] <Snuxoll> obsolete: Don't use -c
[07:42] <G_Nine> you guys know that movie "knocked up"?  it f#$%&* sucks
[07:42] <stdin> !rc
[07:42] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) Release Candidate information and release notes can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - The RC is development software and as such unstable, support *ONLY* in #ubuntu+1
[07:42] <obsolete> g_nine: I loved that movie
[07:42] <Snuxoll> obsolete: You don't need to do anything special to go from beta to rc, just run update manager normally
[07:42] <lunz> !kernel
[07:42] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[07:42] <Snuxoll> obsolete: They both use the same apt repos
[07:42] <Kudak> lunz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[07:42] <G_Nine> for some reason .. i didnt find absolutely anything funny in it.
[07:42] <lunz> how do u check my ubuntu kernel version?
[07:43] <n08l3J> uname -a lunz
[07:43] <n08l3J> Snuxoll,  what were you saying regarding the first user ?
[07:43] <obsolete> Taking out the -c didn't seem to work either :(
[07:43] <G_Nine> hmm.. i mean .. i didnt find .. anything funny .. am sleepy.. linux rocks..
[07:43] <heguru> n08l3J: is your sound card configured? was sound ever working?
[07:43] <heguru> lunz: uname -r
[07:43] <n08l3J> no i just installed the distro gutsy, it was never configured
[07:43] <Snuxoll> n08l3J: Is the account you are logged into the first user created during the install?
[07:44] <n08l3J> i want to know houl would i do that
[07:44] <stdin> obsolete: If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version
[07:44] <n08l3J> yes Snuxoll
[07:44] <n08l3J> this is the only account on this
[07:44] <heguru> n08l3J: gutsy support in #ubuntu+1
[07:44] <obsolete> oh :(
[07:44] <obsolete> I was excited for the "RC"
[07:44] <lunz> 2.6.20-15-generic
[07:44] <sadmin> helo
[07:44] <krammer> need help with 3d effects
[07:44] <lunz> i dont think is latest
[07:44] <stdin> you can always format and reinstall the RC if it makes you feel better :)
[07:45] <sadmin> guys my machine seems very slow am accessing java application on firefox
[07:45] <G_Nine> lunz.. there is no ...-15-generic out yet
[07:45] <sadmin> plz can any one guide what should i check
[07:45] <heguru> kammer: /join #ubuntu-effects
[07:45] <heguru> *krammer: ^^
[07:45] <Snuxoll> Alright, time for me to hit the hay everyone
[07:46] <prathapnirmal> Hi
[07:46] <lee__> evanlec I have tht info on where I got that oem version from
[07:46] <davemlinux1> Is it possible to install ubuntu-7.10-rc and later down the road upgrade to the stable branch?
[07:46] <prathapnirmal> how do I configure the firewall settings in ubunut?
[07:46] <G_Nine> they werent funny and they sucked at impersonating "stoners"
[07:46] <heguru> sadmin: java loads slow when run through firefox on most machines, usually due to download of java applet, is it also slow after the applet has started?
[07:46] <lunz> G-nine : meaning?
[07:46] <G_Nine> matter of fact.. they sucked at impersonating canadians even..
[07:46] <heguru> !ot
[07:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:46] <Evanlec> lee__, what are u talking about?
[07:47] <sadmin> ya seems to be very slow actually i have 2 MB link n my java server is on remote side connected to 2 mb link
[07:47] <prathapnirmal> please help - one of my applications is not working because of a particular port being blocked
[07:47] <sadmin> i have done software raid on this machine
[07:47] <Evanlec> 2megabit link? thats not that fast...
[07:47] <prathapnirmal> how do I unblock it?
[07:47] <obsolete> stdin: I think I might :)
[07:47] <heguru> sadmin: can you try running htop after loading the java app
[07:47] <krammer> need help with 3d effects
[07:48] <heguru> sadmin: you have to install it first: sudo apt-get install htop
[07:48] <sadmin> sata drives to i do dd=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 to copy boot loader on second disk
[07:48] <sadmin> does thsi affect machine speed
[07:48] <nanonyme> indeed. a bit over 200 kilobytes is pretty amazingly slow :)
[07:48] <heguru> prathapnirmal: what port? what application?
[07:48] <G_Nine> i feel safer now
[07:48] <Ashex> I should be able to chroot into an installation and compile a new kernel for it, right?
[07:48] <Ashex> from a live disc that is
[07:48] <prathapnirmal> mysql administrator - port 3306
[07:49] <lunz> G_nine:huh?
[07:49] <lee__> yesterday I signed in as OEM
[07:49] <prathapnirmal> heguru: mysql administrator - port 3306
[07:49] <lunz> G_nine:i dont know what are you talking about..
[07:49] <r3dw0rm> just to satisfy my own curiosity why are rar and unrar separate packages?
[07:49] <Evanlec> Ashex, you can compile a kernel on a completely different machine than the one u plan to use it on
[07:49] <G_Nine> good.. that means i feel even safer now..
[07:49] <Ashex> Evanlec, I know that
[07:50] <Ashex> but to install it
[07:50] <heguru> prathapnirmal: mysql administrator does not use port 3306, it connects to mysql running on port 3306, do you have mysql installed and running?
[07:50] <Evanlec> Ashex, u can install without using the livecd i believe
[07:50] <Ashex> well, doing it the debian way I mean
[07:50] <lunz> G_nine:you only joking right?
[07:50] <sauvin> r3dw0rm, because rar was originally a DOS baby, written FOR babies.
[07:50] <lee__> it is because at the time I had used the OEM sut up version and couldnt creat a user name, so I hit the button that said, make this  ready for shipping
[07:50] <Ashex> Evanlec, I can't boot into the system
[07:50] <Evanlec> Ashex, yea its prety easy, it makes a deb for you, sets up the menu entries all that
[07:50] <r3dw0rm> Ohhh slam
[07:50] <prathapnirmal> yeah
[07:50] <G_Nine> no, unless you like teletubies.. i hate those things
[07:50] <Evanlec> oh, well then ur screwed
[07:50] <Evanlec> j/k ;p
[07:50] <lee__> any how this is wehre I got gutsys OEM
[07:50] <Ashex> Evanlec, I'm running gutsy on an X21 laptop, kernel hangs while assigning irq's
[07:51] <lunz> G_nine:i am just a newbie,dont worry,just installed ubuntu a week ago,this is my first time using it..
[07:51] <Ashex> so, I'm going to try recompiling the kernel to see if it's a bad kernel
[07:51] <lee__> some said that normally OEMS arent sent out thogh
[07:51] <heguru> prathapnirmal: pastebin the output of: netstat -ntpl | grep 3306 (caution: it could reveal your public IP)
[07:51] <Evanlec> Ashex, try messin with bios settings?
[07:51] <heguru> !pastebin | prathapnirmal:
[07:51] <Ashex> Evanlec, yup, no luck
[07:51] <ubotu> prathapnirmal:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:51] <Ashex> It was working fine in Feisty
[07:51] <prathapnirmal> I am able to connect to it from my local machine but not from another machine
[07:51] <Ashex> so altering the bios won't have change anything
[07:51] <nanonyme> isn't OEM OS usually that you buy a computer and get an OS with it?
[07:51] <G_Nine> cool beans.. in that case.. welcome to the underground, lunz
[07:51] <prathapnirmal> so I am sure that mysql is running
[07:52] <Evanlec> nanonyme, usually yes
[07:52] <lee__> yes
[07:52] <ktne> hello
[07:52] <Ashex> prathapnirmal, you need to remove a line from the mysql config
[07:52] <bqmassey> i can't wait any longer...  got. to. download.
[07:52] <lunz> G_nine:i am using irssi and how do u up ur firewall?
[07:52] <Ashex> lemme grab that line real quick
[07:52] <nanonyme> Evanlec, what's the relevance here then?
[07:52] <r3dw0rm> sauvin, it makes perfect sense to package them separately though especially since NO ONE uses rar anymore douche
[07:52] <ktne> how do i create an youtube video in linux?
[07:52] <ktne> i have a song and some pictures
[07:52] <bqmassey> so.. there is a release candidate out?
[07:52] <heguru> prathapnirmal: do you have a firewall? run sudo iptables -L to check
[07:52] <halp> does anyone know of a some software that can recover files names form a salvaged hdd?
[07:52] <ktne> and i want to create a slideshow with music on background
[07:52] <prathapnirmal> Ashex: what is the line?
[07:52] <r3dw0rm> not my fault people use rar to wrap things up
[07:52] <lunz> G_nine:do i really need a firewall?
[07:52] <G_Nine> it's called program execution , lunz
[07:52] <Ashex> prathapnirmal, gimme a sec. I wrote a guide on doing some mysql stuff, i included it in there
[07:53] <G_Nine> and , you dont need a firewall.. but you should use one
[07:53] <krammer> need help with 3d effects
[07:53] <lee__> but in this case the oem set s the pc up, you down load the files that you need and then clcik prepeare this fmachine for shipping, a second screen comes up with all the things taht they downloaded
[07:53] <Absum> this might not be the right place to ask this but how can I make mono applications behave as "regular" binaries? For example to make them execute without having to write mono before
[07:53] <lunz> G_nine:do i really need a antivirus too?
[07:53] <prathapnirmal> Ashex: sure, thanks
[07:53] <tronyx> is anyone able to help me figure out why certain window effects won't stay enabled or work in compiz?
[07:53] <sauvin> r3dw0rm, I guess you don't have much contact with binaries newsgroups on the usenet.
[07:53] <sadmin> heguru as soon as i start firefox memory shoot ups
[07:53] <heguru> prathapnirmal: sudo gedit /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[07:53] <Evanlec> lunz, u dont need an antivirus for ubuntu
[07:53] <Ashex> prathapnirmal, edit the line /etc/mysql/my.cnd
[07:54] <Absum> tronyx: what effects?
[07:54] <lee__> in essens you build the the machines to fit a person or your personaly use, then when you click taht button everythings right there
[07:54] <Ashex> comment this line: bind-address = 127.0.0.1
[07:54] <G_Nine> no need for antivirus unless you transfer alot of files with windows puters ..
[07:54] <Ashex> prathapnirmal, get that?
[07:54] <lunz> G_nine:i left windows because of virus ...
[07:54] <G_Nine> or download bs from the internet..
[07:54] <Ashex> prathapnirmal, after that, restart mysql
[07:54] <heguru> sadmin: check your firefox extentions, or better remove all of them and add them one by one to find the faulty one
[07:54] <lunz> G_nine:sorry,i throw my windows out of window because of virus ...
[07:54] <tronyx> absum: if i go to the compizconfig settings manager and enable animations, they don't actually enable.  if i check the box to enable them and them click say...rotate cube, when i am back at the main settings manager window the animations box is unchecked
[07:55] <sadmin> hey wait
[07:55] <lee__> the gutsye beta download contians the oem lol
[07:55] <r3dw0rm> sauvin, I It was a question as to why they are not packaged together not witch compression scheme is better
[07:55] <heguru> prathapnirmal: you have to change the line to bind-address = yourLANip
[07:55] <lee__> but its rather not nice and unfreindly lol
[07:55] <Absum> tronyx: have you tried just starting compiz from commandline and see what you get in output?
[07:55] <sadmin> heguru see CPU shots but goes normal then
[07:55] <Ashex> okay, I'm sick of gutsy
[07:55] <lee__> it crashed 4x befior it finally loaded
[07:55] <tronyx> no, open a terminal and just type compiz?
[07:55] <sadmin> mem is not normal
[07:55] <r3dw0rm> sauvin, I thought it might be a licensing issue or something no reason for you to be a dick about it
[07:56] <sadmin> its 130.885 MB
[07:56] <iuaudio__> where do I find the mythbuntu lircrc generator?
[07:56] <sadmin> heguru what this mean
[07:56] <Absum> tronyx: open a terminal type killall compiz.real && compiz --replace
[07:56] <sadmin> and mem usgae baar is approx on 80%
[07:56] <prathapnirmal> Ashex: thanks
[07:56] <Absum> tronyx: i think
[07:56] <sauvin> Unrar is more easily available; I believe it's flingware. Rar itself, I think, either is or used to be payware. PKZip used to be the same way; a number of such utilties were.
[07:56] <Ashex> now where are my feisty discs
[07:56] <lunz> G_nine:why u said 15-is not out yet?
[07:56] <sadmin> but its says 130/885 MB
[07:56] <Ashex> I had out over 100 a month and I can't even find one
[07:56] <sadmin> what this mean
[07:56] <prathapnirmal> Ashex: I will check and let you know
[07:56] <heguru> sadmin: as i said, remove all extensions from firefox and try again
[07:56] <heguru> sadmin: it could be a bad extension
[07:56] <G_Nine> because i would have had it
[07:56] <Ashex> prathapnirmal, okay
[07:57] <ePax> How do i add gdesklets to autostart?
[07:57] <[Trash] > Is there a way to transfer files across a petition (I'm using a dual boot XP/Fawn system)? Using the gnome file browser gives me a permission error, and I can't seem to find the Xp partition using terminal mode.
[07:57] <tronyx> brb absum, i need to restart X
[07:57] <lunz> G_Nine:thats what the system tells me..uname -r
[07:57] <iuaudio__> hi all, where do I find the mythbuntu lircrc generator?
[07:57] <obsolete> What's a good IRC client other than xirc (slightly off topic)
[07:57] <lunz> G_Nine:2.6.20-15-generic
[07:57] <sadmin> what extensions
[07:58] <[Trash] > obsolete: I use chatzilla
[07:58] <sadmin> can u guide
[07:58] <G_Nine> well.. then you got some special hook up or something.. i havent received that update yet
[07:58] <heguru> sadmin: can you remove all firefox extensions and try again?
[07:58] <r3dw0rm> obsolete, xchat or bx
[07:58] <sadmin> how i remove
[07:59] <sadmin> apt-get --purge remove firefox
[07:59] <lunz> G_nine:and i also using 2.6.20.16-generic on the other partition..
[07:59] <kira> good morning hi all
[07:59] <heguru> heguru: in firefox, click at tools -> Addons
[07:59] <bone> Using DHCP on eth0, how can I stop dhcp from overwriting my /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:59] <heguru> heguru: if there is anything there, just uninstall it
[07:59] <obsolete> Trash: Thanks
[07:59] <heguru> heguru: doing that would REMOVE firefox, don't do taht
[07:59] <heguru> ^^sadmin:
[07:59] <prathapnirmal> Ashex: thanks it works
[07:59] <G_Nine> good for you
[07:59] <Ashex> prathapnirmal, no problem :)
[07:59] <sadmin> hey wait it was wrong machine
[08:00] <Ashex> just make sure that computer can't be connected to from the outside world
[08:00] <lunz> G_nine:just update form the software updates..
[08:00] <prathapnirmal> Ashex: sure
[08:00] <iuaudio__> hi all, where do I find the mythbuntu lircrc generator?
[08:00] <kira> i have ubuntu 7.10 and if my pc boot the grub starts and pc reboot again .. sometimes he trys 3 times then he boot already the system somebody knows this problem?
[08:00] <tronyx> would anyone be able to help me figure out why I cannot get certain window effects to work in compiz?  i cannot keep window animations enabled or even get them to work.
[08:00] <prathapnirmal> Ahsex: This is unrelated, but how do i stop the firewall running in my machine?
[08:01] <sadmin> heguru as sonn as i start java applet my CPU goes to 98 % now its 31%
[08:01] <heguru> !gutsy | kira
[08:01] <ubotu> kira: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:01] <hou5ton> anyone know of a way to get Office 2003 running stably on Ubuntu?
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> prathapnirmal: You can't, it's in the kernel.
[08:01] <Ashex> prathapnirmal, why would you want to do that?
[08:01] <Ashex> hou5ton, virtualization
[08:01] <lunz> G_nine:welcome to underground?what is that suppose to mean?
[08:01] <prathapnirmal> Ashex: just wanted to know
[08:01] <hou5ton> Ashex:  more information, please.
[08:02] <Ashex> prathapnirmal, it's kinda built into the kernel. There's no reason to remove the firewall anyways
[08:02] <G_Nine> that means you'll die in seven days. starting from the day of you last update
[08:02] <prathapnirmal> okie thanks
[08:02] <sadmin> heguru wht?
[08:02] <Ashex> prathapnirmal, all it does is prevent people from connecting to you in ways you don't want them to. Pretty any service you want to use will normally open the port for you
[08:02] <sadmin> heguru mem is 788/2027MB
[08:02] <heguru> sadmin: you're not listening
[08:02] <Ashex> iptables will automatically open the port when an application needs to use it. It's a much cleaner and nicer firewall then anything windows has to offer
[08:02] <sadmin> sorry
[08:03] <sadmin> can u tel again
[08:03] <Ashex> hou5ton, get yourself virtualbox and install windows
[08:03] <G_Nine> have you ever watched that movie "white noise" .. thats what awaits ubuntu users.. usually..
[08:03] <Ashex> hou5ton, there's a reason office 2003 is a windows app
[08:03] <CheeseGardener> I just updated to 7.10 beta.  I thought 7.10 comes with compiz fusion???
[08:03] <bone> Anyone? dhcp cable connection (7.04 server). Need to stop dhcp from overwriting /etc/resolv.conf
[08:03] <Ashex> CheeseGardener, it does
[08:03] <sadmin> heguru sorry can u tel again
[08:03] <CheeseGardener> Ashex, does the beta come with it?
[08:03] <RobC> yes
[08:03] <RobC> I am on the beta
[08:04] <Ashex> CheeseGardener, yeah, it's in a different area
[08:04] <Ashex> it's not called desktop effects anymore
[08:04] <alla1> how i can user yahoo messenger on linux
[08:04] <Ashex> alla1, use pidgin instead
[08:04] <G_Nine> i got my share of white noise ghosts around.. but well.. i cant die.. you ... i cant guarantee that..
[08:04] <hou5ton> Ashex:  I have the latest OpenOffice installed ... but it is lacking in some areas .... I wonder if StarOffice would be better?
[08:04] <RobC> system/prefs/appearance
[08:04] <CheeseGardener> Ashex, what area is that?
[08:04] <Ashex> CheeseGardener, what RobC said
[08:04] <hou5ton> Ashex:  or ... more complete
[08:04] <CheeseGardener> Ashex, do I need "gnome-compiz-manager" for it to work?
[08:04] <tom__> hou5ton: probably not
[08:05] <Ashex> hou5ton, install virtualbox, then use it to install a copy of windows
[08:05] <sadmin> heguru plz can u tel again
[08:05] <alla1> i dont no pidgin
[08:05] <RobC> cheese, what video card to you have
[08:05] <Ashex> you can setup seamless desktop intergration if you like
[08:05] <Ashex> !virtualbox
[08:05] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[08:05] <CheeseGardener> Ashex, I removed gnome-compiz-manager, and it says it can't enable desktop effects.
[08:05] <Ashex> CheeseGardener, I'm not sure then
[08:05] <Ashex> i haven't got my gutsy laptop running atm
[08:05] <decay> how can i permanently change the terminal text? for example, me@localhost
[08:05] <decay> how can i make it me@home
[08:05] <Ashex> decay, change your hostname
[08:05] <CheeseGardener> Ashex, maybe if I restart it'll work.  brb.
[08:06] <alla1> Ashex:i dont no pidgin
[08:06] <RobC> decay, uname in the console
[08:06] <sadmin> as soon as java_vm start cpu goes 98%
[08:06] <decay> Ashex, where?
[08:06] <Ashex> alla1, applications>internet>pidgin
[08:06] <decay> RobC, is that permanent though?
[08:06] <bone> is there a way to make apt-get not ask for the cd, and instead download from the internet?
[08:06] <sadmin> average CPU is approx 50%
[08:06] <sadmin> heguru u there?
[08:06] <Ashex> decay, preferences>administration>network
[08:06] <Ashex> it's under the general tab I believe
[08:06] <decay> Ashex, thank you
[08:07] <RobC> decay, I have always done that
[08:07] <void_> nick voidvoid
[08:07] <tech0007> bone...uncheck cd from software sources
[08:07] <void_> why does the ubuntu kernel take so long to compile?
[08:07] <bone> tech0007, i'm in server
[08:07] <alla1> Ashex i user ubuntu 7.04 and there is no program called pidgin in this place
[08:07] <Ashex> alla1, ah, it's called gaim then
[08:07] <void_> make-kpkg -initrd --revision=386 kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image is what I'm doing and it takes way longer by huge orders of magnitude than on gentoo
[08:08] <tech0007> bone...sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:08] <halp> does anyone know of a some software that can recover files names form a salvaged hdd?
[08:08] <bone> tech, thanks found it as well. did man apt-get.
[08:09] <tech0007> bone....comment out deb cdrom ....
[08:09] <q_a_z_steve> hey, using dapper and trying to get access to vista drive on same computer, can someone give me a good guide?
[08:09] <alla1> yes with out tjis program i cant speake whith u now , i know gaim but i heared program called wine make u user windows program in linix
[08:09] <tronyx> j #ubuntu-effects
[08:09] <lunz> G_Nine:u must be kidding me...too much movie for you...
[08:10] <alla1> Ashex:yes with out tjis program i cant speake whith u now , i know gaim but i heared program called wine make u user windows program in linix
[08:10] <tech0007> !wine
[08:10] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[08:10] <voidvoid> !kernel
[08:10] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[08:10] <Ashex> alla1, http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
[08:10] <bone> tech0007, know how to stop dhcp from overwriting /etc/resolv.conf (iface eth0 inet dhcp)
[08:10] <ktne> anyone knows an easy way to create a slideshow with music background and upload it to youtube?
[08:11] <voidvoid> !stages
[08:11] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Kernel gets updated in stages.  If you have the updated kernel, but do not have the corresponding restricted modules, you may be leaving yourself with no X when you reboot.  If you have compiled binary versions of your video driver, eg from the nVidia site, you will need to recompile them for the new kernel.  This is normal, and not a bug.
[08:11] <lunz> does anyone knows how to grab xtube video?
[08:11] <ktne> lunz: an youtube video?
[08:11] <ktne> lunz: if you are using firefox then there are some extensions that can do that i think
[08:12] <lunz> ktne:yeah
[08:12] <basotl> Like the unplug extension.
[08:12] <lunz> ktne:i am using firefox
[08:12] <lunz> ktne:sorry but swiftfox
[08:13] <Evanlec> same thing
[08:13] <lunz> ktne:so how do i download and save it to my computer?
[08:13] <basotl> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2254
[08:13] <the_bull> hello all
[08:14] <the_bull> i want to upgrade my fiesty fawn to gusty gibbon
[08:14] <basotl> There's the add-on lunz
[08:14] <the_bull> will only apt-get dist-upgrade work?
[08:14] <obsolete> update-manager -c -d
[08:14] <obsolete> That was for you, the_bull
[08:14] <hou5ton> Ashex:  ok .... I'm goggling virtualization ... looks like it will be a little challenging, which is ok ... but when I'm done, will I really have a Windows XP installation or Windows Media Center installation on which I can install anything?
[08:15] <the_bull> obsolete, i cannot get your point... will u plz. repeat again?
[08:15] <Ashex> hou5ton, yup. Just don't run too much stuff, as it will slow the whole system down
[08:15] <Ashex> I know a couple people who do it
[08:15] <bensa> Can anyone here advise me on how to upgrade from Hoary to Heron?  >.<
[08:15] <bensa> Well, not heron, but Fawn
[08:15] <Ashex> One person I know uses compiz fusion with it, has it setup so one side of the cube is the entire windows desktop
[08:16] <the_bull> obsolete, will you please repeat again?
[08:17] <fatlip> okay this is a dumb question that i know theres an answer to becuase i've done it before, just dont remember how.. how do i stop auto-mounted drives (sda2, sdb1) from showing up on my desktop?
[08:17] <basotl> Ashex - speaking of Virtualbox? I do that with an XP VM.
[08:17] <RobC> the_bull, run that in your console
[08:17] <Ashex> basotl, so do i
[08:17] <obsolete> oh, sorry
[08:17] <Ashex> but with virtualbox, you can intergrate the windows directly to the ubuntu desktop
[08:18] <the_bull> RobC, i know .. but -c and -d means?
[08:18] <Ashex> take a look at their website and you'll see some screencaps
[08:18] <obsolete> in terminal type in: update-manager -c -d
[08:18] <Ashex> basically like what paralells does in osx
[08:18] <obsolete> -c makes it look for updates, -d makes it look for distros
[08:18] <obsolete> Something like that, anyway
[08:18] <RobC> do a man dist-upgrade
[08:18] <the_bull> obsolete, :D
[08:18] <efx2k3> hey
[08:19] <basotl> I realize that but I still prefer setting it off to it's own view port. Keeps my desktop better organized.
[08:19] <lunz> basot:thanks..
[08:19] <tech0007> or u can do 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[08:19] <lunz> basot: but how do i add the add-on?
[08:20] <basotl> Click on the install link - then it downloads - then istalls in the browser.
[08:20] <lunz> basot: ok done
[08:20] <lunz> basot: how to save the utube file now?
[08:21] <basotl> did you restart the browser?
[08:21] <lunz> nasot:yeah
[08:21] <lunz> basot:yeah i did
[08:21] <basotl> Once you do you will have a green fish icon on the browser.
[08:22] <ash_> anyone know a program to rip streaming video from the net?
[08:22] <basotl> Near the search bar. - lunz
[08:22] <lunz> basot:let me check it
[08:22] <tech0007> ash_:  firefox extensions
[08:22] <RobC> Cheese, did you figure it out
[08:22] <ash_> thanks, any specific?
[08:23] <chalcedony> :)
[08:23] <basotl> lunz - When when you are on the YouTube page or any video page with media click the fish icon.
[08:23] <decay> Alright. under restricted drivers, i see my videocard and wireless card listed there. i click enabled, then a popup message says " <device name> not enabled"  any thoughts?
[08:23] <Johnson> l
[08:23] <CheeseGardener> i'm having some problems getting gutsty to see my graphics card.  Does anyone know if this is a common issue?
[08:23] <lunz> basot:there is no fish icon!!
[08:23] <DerangedDingo> ash_: there are multiple. you can do it with bash scripts too
[08:23] <CheeseGardener> Gutsy clearly uses it but apparently the drivers perhaps aren't right?
[08:23] <ikensuke> hello all, can anybody help me out with some bootloader issues?
[08:23] <RobC> CheeseGardener, what graphics card
[08:24] <chalcedony> ikensuke: its better if you say what theissues are
[08:24] <Johnson> hey i'm using x-chat is there a way to get it to minimize to tray?
[08:24] <CheeseGardener> RobC, it's a Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[08:24] <DerangedDingo> ash_: There's a few firefox extensions, a bash script called IRaistube, and.. google it and there's probably more
[08:24] <briggsy> is anyone here running a saphire X1950 grapgics card
[08:24] <CheeseGardener> RobC, Intel makes it.
[08:24] <chalcedony> Johnson: top right corner the - sign
[08:24] <Johnson> ?
[08:24] <Johnson> chalcedony
[08:24] <Johnson> u know what the tray is?
[08:24] <Johnson> its not the taskbar
[08:24] <ash_> DerangedDingo: Thanks I will have a look around
[08:24] <chalcedony> oh
[08:25] <Vimto> whats the different between alternate CD and the other one!
[08:25] <PurpZeY> Is there a CLI command for determining a programs pid with ps aux | grep ?
[08:25] <Johnson> lol. but thanks tho. im sure someone out there knows that or xchat just sucks
[08:25] <PurpZeY> Vimto: Alternate is not graphical
[08:25] <chalcedony> well Johnson ask in #XChat ;)
[08:26] <chalcedony> of course.. they are probably asleep
[08:26] <Vimto> PurpZeY, aha got it thanks!
[08:26] <ikensuke> I currently have a WinXP install on one SATA drive, and an Ubuntu fiesty install on a separate SATA drive. I installed the windows drive second, and now cannot get grub working. I have tried all the usual faqs, but nothing seems to be working.
[08:26] <briggsy> does anyone have a saphire/radeon X1950 graphics card or know anything about them. I am having difficulty and google searching is not solving it.
[08:27] <clouder> PurpZeY: the 2nd item is the pid ain't it?
[08:27] <chalcedony> i'm only being funny because i'm scared. my friend said: check hpoj for conf in etc use ssh .. what did he meain?
[08:27] <chalcedony> he went to bed
[08:27] <CheeseGardener> RobC, so do you have any idea?
[08:27] <RobC> CheeseGardener, I am having no luck on ubuntu's wiki, I would try compiz's site
[08:27] <ash_> Anyone know what would cause a new SATA dvdrw to not burn but read discs just fine? it is a LH-20A1L (Lite-on)
[08:28] <Vimto> is that correct, burning the CD in 4x speed?
[08:28] <RobC> I have an nvidia card and compiz worked from the first boot
[08:28] <Hunnur> join #ruby
[08:28] <CheeseGardener> RobC, oh.... maybe they don't have a driver for it yet?
[08:28] <Hunnur> oops :P
[08:28] <lunz> basot:its working,gee thanks
[08:28] <RobC> that is what I am thinking
[08:28] <briggsy> cheese gardener what video card do you have
[08:28] <CheeseGardener> RobC, if they come up with a driver, will I get an update for it in update manager?
[08:29] <q_a_z_steve> !repeat
[08:29] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:29] <q_a_z_steve> !patience
[08:29] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:29] <RobC> CheeseGardener, I am thinking not all packages are right
[08:29] <q_a_z_steve> Can someone tell me how to find my vista partition (separate drive, same computer) in dapper?
[08:29] <CheeseGardener> briggsy, I have a Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller from Intel.
[08:29] <briggsy> CheeseGardener,  what videocard are you using
[08:31] <briggsy> CheeseGardener, i am using an ATI X1950 and am having many problems with mine...when i do lspci it doesn't even recognize it, it just says unkown ATI device
[08:31] <decay> Alright. under restricted drivers, i see my videocard and wireless card listed there. i click enabled, then a popup message says " <device name> not enabled"  any thoughts?
[08:31] <briggsy> CheeseGardener, and that is after installing the latest drivers from ATI's website
[08:31] <CheeseGardener> briggsy, I see... maybe they don't have driver for gutsy yet?
[08:32] <briggsy> CheeseGardener, im not on gutsy yet, i am still on fiesty
[08:32] <Scunizi> q_a_z_steve: in terminal type df -h.  that will give you the different drives on your machine.  You can also do "fdisk -l" (that's L).
[08:32] <RobC> CheeseGardener, do you have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed?
[08:33] <Giddion> has anyone ever installed ubuntu on microsoft virtual PC with any level of success?
[08:33] <Scunizi> q_a_z_steve: fdisk -l is actually sudo fdisk -l
[08:33] <CheeseGardener> RobC, I'm not sure, how can I check?
[08:33] <RobC> go to your synaptic package manager
[08:33] <RobC> its in system/administration
[08:33] <CheeseGardener> ok
[08:34] <CheeseGardener> what name do I search for?
[08:34] <RobC> intel
[08:34] <RobC> and it will be at the bottom
[08:34] <CheeseGardener> yeah it is installed.
[08:35] <Scunizi> are all the drives in Feisty /dev/sd??.  How do I identify a Hda drive (ide)?
[08:35] <RobC> how can I talk to you without being in this chat
[08:35] <RobC> sorry, I am an IRC noobie
[08:35] <josh1> me too
[08:35] <Syntra> Uhh
[08:35] <Scunizi> RobC: it's easier to see your messages if you put the nick of the person you're talking to in the beginning of the line.  Same for the person talking back to you.
[08:36] <Syntra> I feel really dumb
[08:36] <CheeseGardener> RobC, yeah it is installed.
[08:36] <chalcedony> RobC: do /msg nickserv help  and register your nick
[08:36] <Syntra> But I just started using Linux, and How do I get into folders using the Terminal?
[08:37] <bensa> Hello?
[08:37] <chalcedony> Syntra: try  $ cd directoryiwant
[08:37] <Syntra> OK thanks
[08:37] <chalcedony> root@marcus:~# apt-get mtr
[08:37] <chalcedony> E: Invalid operation mtr
[08:37] <chalcedony> root@marcus:~#
[08:38] <chalcedony> anyone?
[08:38] <AJ--> hi guys is it safe to upgrade to gutsy now??? wat will be the effect on my current system?
[08:38] <ISS_Student> Well I finally deleted 1 install of PCLinux OS I switched to 7.10 and my wireless works at least with the chip set on this system. Does anybody know if they did Java and flash built in?
[08:39] <jlgerber> anyone know anything about the nvidia-settings problem?
[08:39] <bensa> I'm having issues upgrading from Hoary. I keep getting errors about the repositories no longer existing when I use the Synap Pkg manager.  Any advice?
[08:40] <prasanth> any one who is working with Vxworks?
[08:40] <ikensuke> has anybody used super grub disk before?
[08:40] <lunz> how do i download and save xtube video file?
[08:40] <esperegu> saluton.
[08:41] <chalcedony> what command goes after apt-get upgrade ?
[08:41] <jlgerber> how come the resolutions dont seem to pay attention to my xorg.config?
[08:41] <FallenHitokiri> lunz: did you try firefox video downloader?
[08:41] <esperegu> anyone knows how to solve '/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off' when booting the live cd of the RC 7.10 (I've put it on a usb stick)
[08:41] <FallenHitokiri> chalcedony: nothing. after upgrade you are done with upgrading your system
[08:41] <lunz> yeah and it cant download the xtube file
[08:41] <chalcedony> FallenHitokiri: ty
[08:42] <FallenHitokiri> jlgerber: you have more than one resolution in you xorg.config per line?
[08:42] <FallenHitokiri> chalcedony: or do you want to upgrade to gutsy?
[08:42] <chalcedony> ~# apt-get mtr
[08:42] <chalcedony> E: Invalid operation mtr
[08:42] <chalcedony>   why is it giving me invalid operation?
[08:42] <RobC4> apt-get install mtr
[08:43] <chalcedony> RobC4: thanks :)
[08:43] <lunz> fallenhitoriki:only can download from youtube?how about xtube?
[08:43] <FallenHitokiri> lunz: i don't know xtube (i even don't use youtube to be honest)
[08:43] <chalcedony> is there a way to get the NON-gui mtr back ?
[08:44] <FallenHitokiri> chalcedony: apt-cache search ^mtr
[08:44] <FallenHitokiri> chalcedony: there seems to be a mtr-tiny
[08:44] <lunz> doest anyone knows how to download and save xtube video file?
[08:45] <chalcedony> FallenHitokiri: apt-get install mtr-tiny  ? what do i do with the gui then?
[08:45] <bensa> Lunz: what OS?
[08:46] <FallenHitokiri> chalcedony: remove it? apt-get remove --purge mtr
[08:46] <lunz> ubuntu
[08:46] <murlidhar> any application alternative to Aceiso to iso mounting
[08:46] <murlidhar> ?
[08:46] <lunz> bensa:i am using ubuntu feist fawn
[08:46] <josh1> join #kubuntu
[08:47] <FallenHitokiri> murlidhar: mount?
[08:47] <bensa> Ok. I can't upgrade hoary to breezy with the synap pk manager, so I'm trying to do it by replacing the text in the sources.list with what's in the websites instructions, but it will not allow me to save the sources.list.  Any idea why?
[08:47] <murlidhar> FallenHitokiri: yes need a application to mount iso
[08:47] <FallenHitokiri> murlidhar: yeah I read this. use mount
[08:48] <murlidhar> !mount iso
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount iso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: you are not editing with root
[08:48] <lunz> bensa:nope?
[08:48] <FallenHitokiri> s/with/as/
[08:48] <bensa> Lunz: have you tried with the shell prompt?
[08:48] <murlidhar> !iso
[08:48] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:48] <bensa> Fallen: It prompts me for my root pass.  o.0
[08:48] <lunz> bensa:how?teach me
[08:49] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: what do you use for editing?
[08:49] <gogeta> zzzzzzzzzz
[08:49] <ikensuke> does anybody know if it is possible to modify the grub menu.lst from the grub command line?
[08:49] <gogeta> ikensuke i ont think so
[08:49] <FallenHitokiri> ikensuke: o / e for editing a line
[08:49] <gogeta> ikensuke you can do it from the live cd
[08:49] <gogeta> he said menu.list
[08:50] <ikensuke> hm, let me pop in the live cd
[08:50] <FallenHitokiri> gogeta: yeah and I suppose his system doesn't boot. for a quick change this should work
[08:51] <gogeta> live cd he can mount said system and edit
[08:51] <bensa> Fallen: -shrugs- I'm just following directions.  >.<  I'm a n00b.  I open terminal, type " gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list " and then enter the text from the site.
[08:51] <gogeta> or ven use the scripts like grub update
[08:51] <CheeseGardener> Hmmm I'm still having problems.  Could someone give me a hand with the Intel Mobile 915 chipset?
[08:52] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: and gedit tells you you don't have permission to write sources.list? try a sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: or wait a moment if here is somebody who can help you to edit the file with a more "noob friendly editor"
[08:52] <jtmoney> anyway for me to see which process/daemon is running on a specific port?
[08:52] <lunz> bensa: how to use the shell prompt?
[08:52] <jtmoney> openvpn is conflicting with port 500 =(
[08:52] <RobC4> use nano
[08:53] <Bassetts> how can I force a external HDD to unmount?
[08:53] <bensa> Fallen: it doesn't tell me that I don't have permission. It just says "Could not save the file "/home/bensa/'/etc/apt/sources.list'"
[08:53] <FallenHitokiri> jtmoney: netstat -tulpe and cat /etc/services
[08:53] <Bassetts> I keep getting " data being written to device"
[08:54] <gogeta> bassettes sudo umount
[08:54] <RobC4> bensa, run this sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:54] <jtmoney> awesome, thanks
[08:54] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: there is some wrong with "/home/bensa/'/etc/apt/sources.lst'" if I had to guess
[08:54] <bensa> Fallen: should it be blank when I open it?
[08:55] <bensa> Rob: what does that do?
[08:55] <RobC4> opens the file
[08:55] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: no. it sould allready have some lines in
[08:55] <rob> bensa, no idea
[08:55] <RobC4> are you trying to get rid of the CD?
[08:55] <reber> hi. I got a window with "lang fr_FR doesn't exist, using default" at kde startup, what could it be ?
[08:55] <AJ--> hi guys i have a very noob question.. how can i place a trash launcher on my desktop ???hehehhe
[08:55] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: try a cd /etc/apt/
[08:55] <bensa> RobC4: What does that do?
[08:55] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: nano sources.list  (but please ask RobC4 how to use nano)
[08:55] <bensa> Fallen: heh.  yea, it's blank when I open it.
[08:56] <RobC4> bensa, what are you trying to do with editing the sources.list
[08:56] <FallenHitokiri> AJ--: gnome?
[08:56] <AJ--> yup FallenHitokiri
[08:56] <CheeseGardener> could someone help me try to get gutsy to see my graphics card?
[08:56] <RobC4> bensa, you need to run this from the console: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:56] <bensa> Robc4: I'm trying to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy (and then from Breezy to Dapper, etc)
[08:56] <RvGaTe^work> morning...
[08:56] <sadmin> heguru u there
[08:57] <viren> hi guys
[08:57] <FallenHitokiri> AJ--: start gconf-editor
[08:57] <viren> Ih ahve big problem
[08:57] <FallenHitokiri> AJ--: and go to apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[08:57] <bensa> RobC4: I did that.
[08:57] <FallenHitokiri> AJ--: there you can check trash_icon_visible
[08:57] <RobC4> and it didnt open anything?
[08:57] <viren> i can not install ndiswrapper in my laptop
[08:57] <bensa> RobC4: was something visibly suppose to happen?
[08:57] <viren> any one can help me
[08:57] <RobC4> bensa, yea, it was
[08:58] <viren> any expert around?
[08:58] <RobC4> bensa, run this from the console: sudo updatedb
[08:58] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: did you think about a fresh installation - 4-5 dist-upgrades are not really fun
[08:58] <bensa> Robc4: Just to be sure, how do I run something in console?  >.<
[08:58] <RobC4> then run sudo locate sources.list
[08:58] <viren> HELOO
[08:58] <RobC4> you on gnome of kde
[08:58] <ferromag> MSG RobC4 http://www.lethain.com/entry/2007/jul/13/creating-my-dream-server-django/
[08:58] <RobC4> *or
[08:58] <bensa> Fallen: Yea, if I had the InstallCD or a CD burnner.  >.<
[08:58] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know how to get the Intel 915 chipset working with Gutsy?
[08:58] <FallenHitokiri> viren: if somebody could help you he would ansewr. you don't have to scream around
[08:59] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: order a cd from ubuntu.com
[08:59] <viren> sorry
[08:59] <bensa> Fallen: BTW, how are you making your text red?
[08:59] <bensa> Fallen: I have.
[09:00] <RobC4> ferromag: thanks for the link
[09:00] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: if I want to talk to you i write you name at the front and you client recognizes this and highlights the line. thats exactly why I don't alway get when you just write fallen: ;)
[09:00] <inflex> Anyone know which glibc the latest 64 bit ubuntu uses?
[09:00] <bensa> Robc4: Well something happened when I ran "sudo updatedb", but nothing visible.
[09:00] <RobC4> bensa http://www.lethain.com/entry/2007/jul/13/creating-my-dream-server-django/
[09:00] <bensa> FallenHitokiri: Ah. Thank you.  :)
[09:00] <inflex> bensa: you won't - it'll just 'return'
[09:01] <ferromag> MSG RobC4 you'll find useful info on how to upgrade
[09:01] <RobC4> bensa then run: locate sources.list
[09:01] <FallenHitokiri> oargh. django server with apache oO
[09:01] <SA> anyone having any problems with a radeon x1600 agp?
[09:01] <RobC4> bensa you get that link?
[09:03] <iNoob> helpzor
[09:03] <bensa> RobC4: I got the link. I'm still on hoary (three years or so behind).  Can I just jump?  The help site list in this channel doesn't recommend  that.  >.<  Also, how do I open console? I'm just hitting ALT F2.
[09:03] <iNoob> does anybody know how to make a directory called documents under home directory
[09:03] <Extravert> hey
[09:04] <FallenHitokiri> iNoob: mkdir documents
[09:04] <lunz> bensa: how to use the shell prompt?
[09:04] <iNoob> k thanks
[09:04] <FallenHitokiri> lunz: you pen a terminal and enter commands
[09:04] <RobC4> bensa, alt-f2, type in gnome-terminal
[09:04] <Scunizi> RobC4: alt+f2 is a terminal
[09:05] <iNoob> thats weird cannot create directory documents
[09:05] <iNoob> im using cdlive
[09:05] <RobC4> alt+f2 shows run application for me
[09:05] <james296> anyone know whats wrong with doc.gwos.org?
[09:05] <bensa> Robc4: and start over again?
[09:05] <RobC4> yes
[09:06] <bensa> Robc4: From sudo nano. . . ?
[09:06] <Scunizi> bensa: your best bet to upgrade if you have the HDD space is to move your home to its own partition. Then install fresh without formatting home
[09:06] <RobC4> bensa yea, thats the plan, but as everyone else is saying, that is a massive jump
[09:06] <RobC4> bensa lots have changed, and I wouldnt doubt if multiple things broke
[09:06] <ikensuke> i used a live cd, but now how do i edit my menu.lst file if i'm not the root user of that file?
[09:07] <RobC4> bensa hell I upgraded from mandriva 06 to 07 and it broke every damn thing on the system
[09:07] <RobC4> :)
[09:07] <FallenHitokiri> ikensuke: become root or chroot to your partition
[09:07] <lunz> Fallen:i am talking about xtube video downloadinf\d usinf shell prompt..
[09:08] <bensa> RobC4: *lol*  Oh dear.  Well. . .what kinds of things would it break?  This is a fresh install of Ubuntu from an old CD.
[09:08] <iNoob> porno freak
[09:08] <bensa> *lol*
[09:08] <ikensuke> fallen: but when I tru su and it won't accept my password
[09:08] <ikensuke> *try
[09:08] <FallenHitokiri> RobC4: heh - you should have upraded from suse 5.1 to 5.2 that was fun
[09:09] <FallenHitokiri> ikensuke: the live cd has own passwords
[09:09] <RobC4> bensa well I am not familiar with how ubuntu handles upgrading, but I was caught where programs tried to call from the wrong places
[09:09] <iNoob> which one is better
[09:09] <bensa> RobC4: I opened console, and started over at sudo nano /etc/. . . ..  where do I go from there again?
[09:09] <iNoob> unbuntu livecd or suse
[09:09] <lunz> bensa: how to use the shell prompt to download xtube file?
[09:09] <RobC4> bensa you did sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:09] <bensa> RobC4: Oh dear.  Well, I suppose I could just always reinstall if I seriously screw this up.  >.<
[09:10] <FallenHitokiri> iNoob: depending on what you do, but SuSE has no LiveCD IIRC - anyway. LiveCDs suck
[09:10] <bensa> Lunz: Mistake.  I know how to do it for you tube. I don't know if it's the same.
[09:10] <bensa> RobC4: yes I did.
[09:10] <RobC4> did anything come up?
[09:10] <bensa> RobC4: It gave me information.  :D
[09:10] <iNoob> i almost crash my new computer trying to install ubuntu
[09:10] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: do yourself a favor and do a backup
[09:10] <RobC4> ok good
[09:10] <RobC4> yes, please
[09:10] <iNoob> something wrong with the nvidia
[09:10] <tvisto> hey all
[09:10] <iNoob> i couldnt load it up
[09:10] <riotkittie> there are live cds for opensuse
[09:10] <RobC4> if I were a betting man, I would say 5 bucks this will break
[09:10] <bensa> FallenHitokiri: there's nothing on here.  :)
[09:11] <bensa> RobC4: *lol*  Optimism!
[09:11] <RobC4> but I am curious if you can go three up
[09:11] <iNoob> better have insurance on it
[09:11] <iNoob> >.<
[09:11] <tvisto> anyone ever launched SolidWorks on Ubuntu?
[09:11] <tvisto> maybe with WINE or anything like it
[09:11] <RobC4> bensa, change every instance of hoary to gutsy if you want 7.10
[09:11] <bensa> RobC4: ok.  After that, just do the same commands you listed previously?
[09:11] <iNoob> is there a school to learn linux
[09:12] <bensa> RobC4: That's a large jump.  Should I not just do it (painfully) one at a time?
[09:12] <lunz> bensa:just tell me the it might work
[09:12] <FallenHitokiri> RobC4: nice idea - if we break it, we do it fast and clean ;)
[09:12] <RobC4> all in the name of research my good man
[09:12] <RobC4> I bet few have tried it
[09:12] <FallenHitokiri> RobC4: lol
[09:12] <RobC4> see if it works
[09:12] <RobC4> :)
[09:12] <bensa> lunz: http://www.linux.com/articles/114161
[09:12] <FallenHitokiri> RobC4: yeah - and I think we both know why
[09:12] <RobC4> LOL
[09:13] <lunz> bensa:thanks
[09:13] <RobC4> bensa I would try going to the next upgrade first
[09:13] <RobC4> bensa however, make sure you comment out the CD, its the first line where it says deb cdrom:
[09:14] <bensa> RobC4: change everywhere it says hoary to breezy then, right?
[09:14] <RobC4> bensa just change everything from hoary to breezy (or whatever was next), and then alt-x, say yes (press y), and then exit
[09:14] <RobC4> bensa then run apt-get update
[09:14] <Geoffrey2> updating from hoary?
[09:14] <RobC4> bensa apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:14] <RobC4> bensa apt-get upgrade
[09:15] <bensa> RobC4: comment out the CD?
[09:15] <RobC4> bensa and get out the rosary beads
[09:15] <RobC4> yup
[09:15] <RobC4> its a pound sign
[09:15] <RobC4> however, I have to ask, how fast if your internet connection
[09:15] <novato_away> tvisto ???
[09:15] <RobC4> *is
[09:16] <novato_away> solidoworks is free?
[09:16] <lunz> bensa:how to install the md5sum?
[09:16] <hanihashemi> Hello
[09:16] <bensa> RobC4: Just remove the #?  I'm on a cable modem.  It's decent. I would prefer to be on my work t1 line though.
[09:16] <hanihashemi> I need a hellp
[09:16] <lunz> apt-get md5sum install
[09:16] <RobC4> bensa dont remove the # if it is there
[09:16] <novato_away> lunz, it's apt-get install md5sum
[09:16] <FallenHitokiri> hanihashemi: yeah... just ask
[09:16] <Geoffrey2> he
[09:17] <lunz> oppss
[09:17] <Geoffrey2> he's not trying to go straight from hoary to gutsy, is he?
[09:17] <RobC4> bensa it should be # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 xxx or whatever
[09:17] <RobC4> I am trying to make him, but he is being sane
[09:17] <bensa> RobC4: I don't see anywhere it says that.  o.0
[09:17] <FallenHitokiri> Geoffrey2: oh yes he is :>
[09:17] <lunz> Couldn't find package md5sum
[09:17] <RobC4> bensa it should be at the very top
[09:17] <bensa> RobC4: Naah, I'm not sane. I setting each instance of the word "hoary" to a different distro.  :-P
[09:18] <bensa> RobC4: very top:  "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy  main restricted
[09:18] <bensa> "
[09:18] <Geoffrey2> FallenHitokiri, if that's me, back up the data files, blow away the partitions, and do a fresh install from CD...but that's just me
[09:18] <hanihashemi> when i want to start apache it show me error message : hani@hAni-laptop:~$ apache2ctl start
[09:18] <hanihashemi> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.0.102 for ServerName
[09:18] <hanihashemi> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:8070
[09:18] <hanihashemi> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[09:18] <hanihashemi> Unable to open logs
[09:19] <RobC4> bensa, well if it isnt there, then dont worry about it
[09:19] <RobC4> bensa basically you dont want ubuntu to try and use the cd upgrade
[09:19] <RobC4> bensa just change everything to breezy, and alt-x, y, enter
[09:19] <bensa> RobC4: alt x makes it say "Help Mode disabled
[09:19] <lunz> bensa:what is md5sum???
[09:20] <RobC4> in nano?
[09:20] <RobC4> woop
[09:20] <RobC4> control x
[09:20] <RobC4> sorry
[09:20] <bensa> lunz: verifies md5 hashes
[09:20] <bensa> Robc4: sok
[09:20] <macavity> lunz: a program that calculates a checksum that it is very close to impossible to tamper with.. that way you can know if a file is corrupt or not
[09:21] <FallenHitokiri> Geoffrey2: yep. I would handle it the same way... but I wouldn't backup. i have my /home on a seperate partition and cron always runs a backup sending my files to my fileserver
[09:21] <clmbngbkng> anyone know how to use ddclient with dyndns?
[09:21] <RobC4> you guys have no sense of adventure ;)
[09:21] <lunz> bensa:and how to install it?
[09:21] <FallenHitokiri> hanihashemi: are you running this as root?
[09:21] <bezak> clmbngbkng: i have used it before, but i can't remember it. what's the problem
[09:21] <bensa> lunz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum
[09:22] <bensa> Robc4: done.
[09:22] <hanihashemi> yes
[09:22] <FallenHitokiri> RobC4: nah. some of use don't have no time to waste with useless experiments ;)
[09:22] <RobC4> bensa did you say apt-get update
[09:22] <RobC4> err type
[09:22] <hanihashemi> FallenHitokiri: Yes
[09:22] <Geoffrey2> FallenHitokiri, after a complete meltdown of Dapper one time, I learned REAL FAST the importance of keeping the /home folder on a seperate partition
[09:22] <FallenHitokiri> hanihashemi: netstat -tulpe   - what program is listening on 8070?
[09:22] <clmbngbkng> bezak: i have it installed and use the config file that dyndns makes for you but it doesnt update the IP address with it
[09:22] <clmbngbkng> do i need to open a port for it?
[09:23] <bensa> Robc4: I did.  I got this error: "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:23] <bensa> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[09:23] <bensa> "
[09:23] <bezak> clmbngbkng: is it running
[09:23] <FallenHitokiri> Geoffrey2: hehe :> you should have run a early suse or redhat with reiserfs :> "backup every day or do your work again"
[09:23] <RobC4> sudo apt-get update
[09:23] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: run it as root!
[09:23] <RobC4> anytime you see that error, sun it as sudo
[09:23] <RobC4> run
[09:23] <bensa> FallenHitokiri: I realize this now.  *lol*
[09:23] <lunz> damn..now i have to know about python..etc etc sigh...
[09:23] <clmbngbkng> bezak: i think it is, how can i check?
[09:24] <clmbngbkng> and if not how do i get it running from start?
[09:24] <FallenHitokiri> clmbngbkng: ps -A | grep client
[09:24] <FallenHitokiri> clmbngbkng: ddclient should appear in this list
[09:24] <Geoffrey2> FallenHitokiri, it was weird, one night I shut down my laptop properly....next day it won't start up, file system is hash....
[09:25] <hanihashemi> FallenHitokiri: tcp        0      0 *:8070                  *:*                     LISTEN     r
[09:25] <clmbngbkng> FallenHitokiri: it does show up there
[09:25] <RobC4> y2k bug finally caught up with you
[09:25] <FallenHitokiri> Geoffrey2: that's exactly what reiser did - beside the fact that this happend nearly every reboot
[09:25] <FallenHitokiri> clmbngbkng: so it is running
[09:25] <bensa>  . . . .and now I get a bunch of errors.  *lol*
[09:25] <ikensuke> a little while ago I booted into ubuntu and it prompted me to updated some files ( a few of which pertained to the linux kernel) and now my x server wont start..
[09:25] <FallenHitokiri> hanihashemi: use another port for apache, like 80 - what it is supposed to listen on or 8080
[09:26] <RobC4> you spell everything right?
[09:26] <ikensuke> it's saying error: api mismatch
[09:26] <bensa> Robc4: Mostly 404 errors.
[09:26] <clmbngbkng> FallenHitokiri: but it doesnt update the IP address automatically, i can force it to update it on its own
[09:26] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: apt-get update
[09:26] <RobC4> oh great
[09:26] <FallenHitokiri> clmbngbkng: you configuration file is correct?
[09:26] <Geoffrey2> FallenHitokiri, what version # is hoary, anyway?  my first version was Dapper....
[09:27] <Scunizi> I have several partitions when I open them they have a "lost+found" folder that is locked for root access only.  Why is it there?
[09:27] <RobC4> bensa, you might have to go to dapper
[09:27] <bensa> Robc4: same kinds of errors I was getting with I was atttempting to do this with the synpatic pkg mngr
[09:27] <FallenHitokiri> Geoffrey2: i have no idea... i don't really use ubuntu for my daily work
[09:27] <bensa> Robc4: Skip breezy?
[09:27] <RobC4> bensa thats because ubuntu doesnt support anythign until dapper IIRC
[09:27] <bensa> Geoffrey2: 5.10 I think
[09:28] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: lost+found is a directory your filesytem uses (ext3) primary if your system crashes...
[09:28] <clmbngbkng> FallenHitokiri: it seems to work when i force it to update manually but it doesnt do it on its own, so i guess it is wrong, but its the one that dyndns made with on their site and they claim it should work
[09:28] <clmbngbkng> do i need to open up a port or something like that?
[09:28] <RobC4> bensa ya, you need to go to dapper
[09:28] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: so I shouldn't worry about it and just let it sit there?
[09:28] <bensa> Geoffrey: not wait. It's 5.4. Breezy is 5.10
[09:28] <RobC4> but that will get you right in the middle
[09:28] <FallenHitokiri> clmbngbkng: ddclient _is_ working, maybe the timeout isn't right
[09:28] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: just look over it ;
[09:28] <FallenHitokiri> ;)
[09:28] <bensa> Robc4 , ok, so the same thing again, just change everything to dapper?
[09:29] <RobC4> bensa yes
[09:29] <RobC4> bensa and then it should all work
[09:29] <clmbngbkng> FallenHitokiri: ok i'll look it over
[09:29] <trdracer> any known xvid/avi codecs for gutsy/gusty not even sure its name
[09:29] <MannyZ> Before you begin the installation, exit the X server and terminate all OpenGL applications (note that it is possible that some OpenGL applications persist even after the X server has stopped). You should also set the default run level on your system such that it will boot to a VGA console, and not directly to X. Doing so will make it easier to recover if there is a problem during the installation process. See Appendix H, Tips for New
[09:29] <MannyZ>  Linux Users for details.
[09:29] <RobC4> bensa and dapper is 6.06, which is right in the middle. You can go from there to 6.10 and then 7.04 no problem
[09:29] <trdracer> !xvid
[09:29] <MannyZ> how i disable x?
[09:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:29] <MannyZ> !x
[09:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:29] <Geoffrey2> interesting....they jumped from "h" (Hoary) back to "b" (Breezy), and since then it's been Dapper, Edgy, Feisty, and now Gutsy.....
[09:29] <bensa> Robc4: hopefully.  ;-)  If it does work, what will happen?  Will all my screens close or something? If they do, thank you sooooo much.
[09:29] <Scunizi> Fallen'
[09:30] <bensa> Fallenhitokiri: Thank you sooooo much as well.  :D
[09:30] <FallenHitokiri> trdracer: apt-cache search gstreamercould please tell someone this ugly bot to query the people
[09:30] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: no problem
[09:30] <RobC4> bensa naw, when you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, it will flip out
[09:30] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: thanks.. there's nothing in the file.. is it safe to delete?  Will it be recreated automatically?
[09:30] <RobC4> bensa and say you need to install 10000000 packages, and 680 mgs of downloads
[09:30] <lunz> anyone knows how to install phyton?
[09:30] <ferromag> AWAY
[09:30] <MannyZ> how i exit the X ?
[09:30] <MannyZ> the x server
[09:30] <RobC4> bensa let it run, and then it *should* boot up into 6.06 the next time you reboot
[09:31] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: sorry, I think I used the wrong term (english is not my native language) - just forget that the directory is there and don't touch it
[09:31] <RobC4> once you get into there, then run sudo apt-get update
[09:31] <RobC4> and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:31] <FallenHitokiri> lunz: apt-cache search ^pathon
[09:31] <FallenHitokiri> s/pahton/python/
[09:31] <Scunizi> MannyZ: ctrl+alt+f2 then log in, now type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:32] <lunz> Fallen:bash: s/pahton/python/: No such file or directory
[09:32] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: thanks :)  now how do I gain permissions on a partition that is root access for read write only?
[09:32] <FallenHitokiri> lunz: this means you should replace pahton with python in my previous line
[09:32] <bensa> Robc4 Hey!  It's working.  (I think/So far)
[09:32] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: no problem.
[09:32] <RobC4> bensa awesome
[09:33] <RobC4> bensa is it updating the sources to dapper?
[09:33] <bensa> RobC4: all done! No errors.  On to the next step!  (I'm happy I get to make it flip out)
[09:33] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: only edit something wit sudo $editor $file - you don't want to have it world read write able
[09:33] <L0GAN> hi all
[09:33] <bensa> Robc4: that's after sudo apt-get update right?
[09:33] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: or is it a external drive or somehting other than /
[09:33] <gregorovius> fonts in firefox look kinda ugly now that i've upgraded to gutsy... anyone else had this happen?
[09:33] <RobC4> bensa do the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:33] <RobC4> and see what happens
[09:34] <bensa> Robc4 *presses enter*
[09:34] <lunz> Fallen:bash:  s/python/python/s/pahton/python/: No such file or directory
[09:34] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: I have a couple of different partitions that are outside of / that are locked for some reason.. I multi-boot with Feisty gdm, kde and Dapper gdm.. something got messed up along the way with the permissions.
[09:34] <L0GAN> I finally got my usb drive partitioned and was hoping to boot ubuntu from it. Sadly however I cannot seem to get the system to boot from USB :( (I have set first boot from USB-HDD)
[09:34] <FallenHitokiri> lunz: apt-cache search ^python
[09:34] <bensa> Robc4: whoa.
[09:34] <Scunizi> log
[09:34] <RobC4> lots of stuff?
[09:34] <bezak> FallenHitokiri: what does the ^ do
[09:34] <bensa> Robc4: yes.  I need to write these down.
[09:34] <lunz> anyone knows how to install phyton?fallen done
[09:34] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: please paste the output of mount
[09:34] <RobC4> it should be substantial
[09:35] <lunz> fallen:done with that
[09:35] <lunz> fallen:then what?
[09:35] <FallenHitokiri> bezak: it tells the program that ^python is the start of the word. so ^python-foobar is listet but foobar-python not
[09:35] <RobC4> bensa just say yes, lets do it
[09:35] <haru> does anyone know of a desklet clock that allows me to show time for 4-5 locations?
[09:35] <bezak> FallenHitokiri: cool that's useful
[09:35] <FallenHitokiri> lunz: you see the packages you can install - install them. apt-get install python for example
[09:35] <RobC4> and then catch up on some sleep
[09:35] <L0GAN> I think I did everything correct but somehow it doesnt buut from my USB stick
[09:36] <cLINTo> can someone tell me how to figure out the UUID on a filesystem by command?
[09:36] <cLINTo> I can't remember
[09:36] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40337/
[09:36] <haru> does anyone know of a desklet clock that allows me to show time for 4-5 locations?
[09:36] <bensa> Robc4: It's on Get: 164.  :)
[09:36] <lunz> fallen:Done
[09:36] <lunz> fallen:python is already the newest version.
[09:36] <RobC4> bensa good, that is what you want to see
[09:37] <FallenHitokiri> lunz: congratulations - you allready head python installed
[09:37] <RobC4> haha
[09:37] <L0GAN> i do however get in live cd 2 drives (partitions). Windows shows only one
[09:37] <bensa> So that was sudo how did I open console again?  gnome - what?
[09:37] <RobC4> gnome-terminal
[09:37] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: ntfs: read writeable with ntfs-3g
[09:37] <bensa> Robc4: how long do you think this will take?
[09:37] <bensa> Thank you
[09:37] <RobC4> bensa a while
[09:38] <RobC4> bensa you can see, it gives you a time remaining
[09:38] <Kavi> Hi
[09:38] <lunz> fallen:and now how to install youtube-dl?
[09:38] <bensa> Robc4: Good. I need to sleep soon anyway.  :)
[09:38] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: and if there are system file for another distri on one of this partitions you also don't want to make them world read writeable or your system won't boot ;)
[09:38] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: that one I'm not overly concerned with.. it's a couple of ext3 partitions that are giveing me a headache
[09:38] <RobC4> bensa and then it has to install it all
[09:38] <bensa> 16m?
[09:38] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: what is on this partitions?
[09:38] <guido> Hi men, I'm trying to configure an IPsec VPN from my Ubuntu box to a remote network, but I cannot correctly setup racoon. Anybody there with some experience?
[09:38] <FallenHitokiri> lunz: no idea. don't know this app
[09:39] <RobC4> bensa I think thats the size of the app its downloading
[09:39] <bensa> RobC4: 423 kbps 16m49s
[09:39] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: Which partition has system files for the other distro?  One of the partitions is /home for Dapper but I want access only for some of the data, the others are a mish mash of data drives that I'm presently trying to clean up and consolidate.
[09:40] <RobC4> bensa yea, thats the time left
[09:40] <bensa> Robc4: I'm on Get: 525
[09:40] <RobC4> thats good
[09:40] <bensa> Well I was.  I'm way ahead of that now.
[09:40] <RobC4> it looks like it is doing it
[09:40] <bensa> Sweet.
[09:40] <cLINTo> can someone tell me how to figure out the UUID on a filesystem by command?
[09:40] <RobC4> if this works, Ubuntu is a bad ass distro
[09:40] <bensa> So, is everything going to change when it reboots into Dapper?
[09:40] <RobC4> and you need to let them know
[09:40] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: if there are no files from /etc for example from another distri you can just do a chmod -R 777 /path_to_mountpoint
[09:40] <RobC4> yup
[09:40] <bensa> Robc4: I will!  (If it works)
[09:40] <bezak> cLINTo: type apropos uuid
[09:40] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: this will give you and _everyone_ else read and write access
[09:40] <bezak> cLINTo: theres some stuff there
[09:41] <bensa> Robc4: if it doesn't work, how will I know?  Will it be drastic?
[09:41] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: i repeat: don't do this if there are _any_ system files on it
[09:41] <cLINTo> okay
[09:41] <RobC4> bensa it should look different
[09:41] <cLINTo> thank you bezak
[09:41] <RobC4> bensa you will know immediately
[09:41] <bezak> cLINTo: no worries, apropos is a really useful command
[09:41] <RobC4> :)
[09:41] <bensa> RObc4: *lol*  Greeeat
[09:41] <FallenHitokiri> bensa: we'll hear your scream
[09:41] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: gotcha.. root for dapper is sdc3 which I don't put in fstab for feisty.. keeps it safe that way..
[09:42] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: good idea ;)
[09:43] <bensa> Fallenhitokiri: hilarious.  :-P  *lol*
[09:43] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: I'll give chmod a try and report back.. One last question..... are permissions for a partition held on that partition or within the file system of the distro you're working in?
[09:45] <bezak> i need to backup my home folder to another hard drive, theres around 290 gigs of data there, how can i check that it has all copied over ok?
[09:45] <unics> hello
[09:45] <bezak> hey
[09:45] <WaltzingAlong> bezak: rsync
[09:45] <WaltzingAlong> bezak: or md5 sums
[09:45] <L0GAN> btw how can I make a live CD with some custom apps pre-installed?
[09:46] <bezak> WaltzingAlong: how does rsync do that
[09:46] <L0GAN> for example I want to add blender and videolan as default apps
[09:46] <unics> is it possible to make 'virtual admins' on ubuntu ? like, they should be able to add users and delete them, but only in their group.
[09:46] <WaltzingAlong> !info rsync
[09:46] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-3ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 255 kB, installed size 500 kB
[09:46] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: if a file is 777 (everyone can do everyone) that's always the fact
[09:46] <FallenHitokiri> bezak: md5sum
[09:46] <bezak> WaltzingAlong: i know what rsync is, i just wasn't aware it had some way of verifying integrity
[09:47] <bezak> FallenHitokiri: is that some easy md5sum program, and do i have to zip everything first, or can i just cp it over
[09:47] <WaltzingAlong> bezak: o well it would check that one side matched the other
[09:47] <macavity> bezak: if you use cp and it doesnt complain about anything, then everythine went ok
[09:47] <FallenHitokiri> L0GAN: system -> preferences -> preffered applications or a right click on a file and "open with"
[09:47] <bezak> macavity: it's just i don't really wanna sit and watch cp go for 5 hours or however long it will take
[09:47] <macavity> bezak: like cp ~/* ~/.* /path/to/that/other/disk
[09:47] <FallenHitokiri> bezak: cp it over, run md5sum on the original files and again on the copied files. write the output to a file and diff it
[09:47] <Charly> Hmm. Can someone help me out real quick?
[09:48] <bezak> !ask
[09:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:48] <FallenHitokiri> Charly: not if you don't ask a question
[09:48] <L0GAN> i dont have it installed. i think its tricky from live cd. (and not able to bet boot from USB still
[09:48] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: that is to say, the partition would be read/write for anyone that logs into their account on this computer.. right?
[09:48] <macavity> bezak: you are not supposed to watch it.. just come back and see if it complained :P
[09:48] <RobC4> man, that ubotu is a slick piece of software
[09:48] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: yes
[09:49] <RobC4> bensa whats the status
[09:49] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: man chmod gives a good overview how you can set permissions
[09:49] <Charly> Hehe okay. My brother decided to be a jerk, and changed my password to my laptop which has ubuntu on it. Now i didn't install it, my brother did and i don't know the password.
[09:49] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: that's ok.. I'm the only user.  thanks..
[09:49] <Charly> Can anyone help me figure out the password?
[09:49] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: than there shoulnd be a problem. np
[09:49] <macavity> Charly: that is going to be very very hard...
[09:50] <FallenHitokiri> Charly: boot from a live cd, chroot and change your password
[09:50] <haru> and that shud probably not be answerer anywho
[09:50] <macavity> Charly: either you know it.. or you have to change it
[09:50] <Kudak> Charly: to solve that u have 2 options, 1. hack ur system, 2. beat ur brother up, i suggest the 2nd option :)
[09:50] <RobC4> one of the downfalls to not having a root
[09:50] <simplechat> Charly: restart, hit escape on startup
[09:50] <FallenHitokiri> hm. option 2 form Kudak sounds not only effizient but also fun :>
[09:50] <L0GAN> take your brother by the ear
[09:51] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: but just in case I want to lock down a partition to just "me" how would I do that.?
[09:51] <Charly> Thanks guys for all the options
[09:51] <simplechat> Charly: select recovery mode or so
[09:51] <Charly> but i don't know a lot about computers
[09:51] <FallenHitokiri> whatch a bit 24 and play Jack
[09:51] <Kudak> yup, u want a howto to "How to beat up your brother to gain root access" guide ???
[09:51] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: chmod 700
[09:51] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: or 600
[09:51] <AnRkey> I want to ouput my CPU load to a log file once a day? Can this be done with tops?
[09:51] <simplechat> Charly: its fairly simple. esc on startup, recovery mode, then passwd whatever.
[09:52] <AnRkey> with top sorry
[09:52] <simplechat> add yourself a new user (with adduser) and make it an admin
[09:52] <FallenHitokiri> AnRkey: cron
[09:52] <simplechat> then log in and remove it from the normal startup :)
[09:52] <AnRkey> FallenHitokiri, the cron part is easy
[09:52] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: thanks..  I've got an old "Unix Shells" referance manual that I'll take a look at for more chmod into.. I appriciate your help.. What is your first language?
[09:52] <AnRkey> problem is that top runs and does not end automatically
[09:52] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: german
[09:52] <AnRkey> i need it simply to output the stats and close
[09:52] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: but english is fine for me (at least if I'm not sick and on medicaments like now)
[09:53] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: Ich hapt fur drei yar im duetchland gevont.. (forgive the spelling)
[09:53] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: what's your native language?
[09:53] <AnRkey> FallenHitokiri, top -b :D
[09:53] <FallenHitokiri> AnRkey: no idea - I only use htop
[09:53] <AnRkey> FallenHitokiri, i used man top hahaha
[09:54] <AnRkey> htop
[09:54] <FallenHitokiri> AnRkey: so simple and always working...
[09:54] <AnRkey> ta
[09:54] <AnRkey> thanks a stack
[09:54] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: Am English, but I lived in Europe for 5 years growing up. 2 in Italy and 3 in Germany... Naples, Stuttgart & Munich
[09:54] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: at least you were in beatufull citys ;)
[09:55] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: i thought italy because of your nick
[09:55] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: I like it a lot.. good travel.. good skiing.... Yep the nick might be a bit phonetic but in Neopolitan it means "street kids" or urchans.
[09:56] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: ah, I see
[09:56] <FallenHitokiri> hm. 10am, I should at least shower even if I don't work today :/
[09:56] <grimborg0> hi. i'm trying to install ubuntu and when i boot the live cd / live dvd i get Error 22 right after "GRUB Loading Stage 1.5". I googled around and couldn't find any solution. I tried both feisty and gutsy live dvds and the feisty live cd. Anyone knows how can I solve this? thanks!
[09:56] <Scunizi> FallenHitokiri: thanks for all the help.  At this point I'll get 5 hrs of sleep then I get the kids off to school.
[09:56] <capiira> finallly!!!! encryption in the installer :D
[09:56] <FallenHitokiri> grimborg0: check gentoo wiki for grub errors + solution
[09:57] <FallenHitokiri> Scunizi: no problem. feel free to ask again.
[09:57] <Scunizi> grimborg0: do you have more than one drive installed?
[09:57] <grimborg0> Scunizi: yes, two
[09:57] <AnRkey> FallenHitokiri, thanks so very much, htop is waaaay better
[09:57] <Scunizi> grimborg0: are they both SATA drives?
[09:57] <FallenHitokiri> AnRkey: yes :) np
[09:58] <AnRkey> solved a few problems already in my script
[09:58] <AnRkey> yes it's gonna be a good day
[09:58] <Charly> simplechat: What do you eman by passwd whatever?
[09:58] <grimborg0> Scunizi: no, it's a pretty old pc
[09:58] <WaltzingAlong> Charly: man passwd ;
[09:59] <Scunizi> grimborg0: so they are ide?  Do you plan on using one entire drive for Ubuntu and keeping Windows installed?
[09:59] <lunz> bensa:it's work with youtube and gonna test with xtube now
[09:59] <reber> how to have the content (files) of a package ?
[10:00] <Scunizi> grimborg0: or is this a project pc that you don't care about the current system on it or the data?
[10:00] <grimborg0> Scunizi: yes. i have some unpartitioned space in one of the disks and i was planning to partition that and put ubuntu there
[10:00] <simplechat> Charly: is it up now?
[10:00] <simplechat> what does the prompt say?
[10:00] <simplechat> "Root@computername:~#"?
[10:00] <Scunizi> grimborg0: what you might want to try is to disconnect the drive that you won't be using or installing Ubuntu on.  You can plug it back in later.
[10:01] <Vimto> oh my god! i did it! :P
[10:01] <grimborg0> Scunizi: ok, i'll try that right away. thanks a lot :)
[10:01] <Scunizi> grimborg0: if you do that, you might need to reinstall grub after reconnecting the other drive...
[10:01] <Scunizi> grimborg0: wait.. more info.
[10:01] <Vimto> i installed the system correctely! any  acceessories i can add? :P
[10:02] <fairman> Hi, i need help with network: I downloaded RC Gutsy Gibbon for my laptop (HP n6720) and ethernet does not work, i can not ping my gateway etc. When i use Test CD 5 Gutsy, it works good, any suggestions?
[10:02] <Scunizi> grimborg0: write down this url...  http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm.. it has the easiest/best instructions for fixing Grub after things get messed up..
[10:03] <Scunizi> grimborg0: sometimes the live cd hickups on older pc when there are 2 drives.
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> !grub
[10:03] <Scunizi> Nighty Night all.!
[10:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:03] <grimborg0> thanks! i'll look into it
[10:07] <haru> how do i upgrade from fiesty to gutsy
[10:07] <bensa> lunz: tell me if works out for you.
[10:08] <bensa> Robc4: It's at some postfix configuration screen
[10:09] <RobC4> thats fine
[10:10] <RobC4> thats for your e-mail
[10:10] <bensa> Robc4: what kiknd of configuration should I choose?
[10:10] <bensa>  Oh
[10:10] <bensa> Robc4: I'll skip it then
[10:10] <RobC4> if you use thunderbird or something like that, dont worry about it
[10:10] <RobC4> just make sure you are still installing
[10:10] <bensa> Robc4: I just told it what dictionaries to use./
[10:11] <RobC4> cool
[10:11] <RobC4> is it getting close?
[10:12] <WaltzingAlong> !paste
[10:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:12] <Charly> Okay still having problems trying to reset the password. I press esc at startup, i choose a recovery mode and when i have time to type passwd exwep it says "Password : exwep" and i get invalid password thing
[10:12] <lunz> bensa:didnt work for xtube because of the php script..
[10:14] <Rabbitbunny> So... just did the mysql updates from tonight while installing opera. My screen is gibberish and unresponsive. What now?
[10:15] <Edge1981> hello?
[10:15] <soundray> Hello Edge1981
[10:16] <Edge1981> i have some problems with my ubuntu...
[10:17] <bezak> !ask
[10:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:17] <Edge1981> i think i have to install an Ati driver... because i can't find the right screen resolution....
[10:17] <Edge1981> this is my MB K9AGM2-FIH (MSI)
[10:19] <Edge1981> hmz something went wrong :D
[10:20] <clmbngbkng> does anyone know how to make totem movie player louder? it's quieter than the normal system volume level
[10:20] <Edge1981> hmz...
[10:21] <foxiness> clmbngbkng: i agree with u
[10:22] <Rabbitbunny> Should I reboot and hope?
[10:22] <clmbngbkng> fixiness:  so as of now there isnt a way to fix it other than turn up your speakers more and have the ubuntu startup sound blast at you when you boot your system?
[10:22] <clmbngbkng> foxiness*
[10:22] <soundray> !fixres > Edge1981
[10:23] <soundray> !ati > Edge1981, please read the private messages from ubotu
[10:23] <Edge1981> ok :D
[10:23] <foxiness> clmbngbkng: :D yeah
[10:23] <soundray> clmbngbkng: I take it you've found totem's own volume control?
[10:23] <Edge1981> thx soundray
[10:24] <clmbngbkng> soundray: where should i look for that? i believe i've checked all of the preferences but i might have missed it
[10:25] <ePax> I have radeon 9550 and i have XGL installed. Now i can only watch movies if i choose Session "Gnome with XGL" not in normale gnome. how can i watch movies in Gnome session as well?
[10:25] <foxiness> soundray: u need to turn up everything not only totem to reach the max volume
[10:25] <soundray> clmbngbkng: the small speaker symbol towards the bottom of the totem window.
[10:26] <foxiness> clmbngbkng: no u r not
[10:26] <soundray> foxiness: no need to tell me.
[10:27] <soundray> !clone
[10:27] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[10:27] <clmbngbkng> soundray, ok i had already maxed that out before, didnt know if you were talking about that specifically
[10:27] <foxiness> soundray: k keep watching when other answer
[10:27] <soundray> foxiness: what?
[10:28] <nomego> how would I get libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 on a 64-bit feisty server?
[10:28] <soundray> In the output of dpkg --get-selections, is there a way to distinguish packages that don't have other packages depending on them?
[10:28] <soundray> Leaves in the dependency tree, as it were?
[10:31] <fairman> 82562GT network card (intel) does not work in RC Gutsy Gibbon, what shall i do?
[10:31] <soundray> nomego: are you sure the package name is correct?
[10:32] <nomego> soundray: I want to know if there even is a packagename containing that file on 64-bit feisty
[10:33] <bensa> Robc4: It's prompting me to restart.
[10:33] <bensa> Robc4: restart services that is.
[10:34] <soundray> nomego: have you checked in libstdc++2.10-dbg ?
[10:34] <bensa> Robc4: I'm going to restart them and see what happens
[10:35] <bensa> Robc4: it's replacing things now.
[10:35] <bensa> Robc4: and unpacking.
[10:35] <Edge1981> does anybody have a 37" LCD instead of a normal monitor?:D
[10:35] <RobC4> bensa awesome
[10:36] <nomego> soundray: yes, it's not available on 64-bit
[10:36] <tsukasa__> hey anyone know a good dock app?
[10:36] <bensa> Robc4: I only installed this on a 4 gig partiion.  Should i have made that larger?  o.0
[10:36] <tsukasa__> like the osx dock sortof.
[10:36] <nomego> tsukasa__: avant-window-navigator
[10:36] <RobC4> bensa probably
[10:36] <Almindor> hello, is there a way to apt-get install --reinstall all installed libs?
[10:37] <RobC4> bens but you can always add another drive and make that /home
[10:37] <bensa> robc4: *lol*  oh well.  this was mostly experimental anyway.
[10:37] <Almindor> the word "installed" is important here, reinstalling a few "lib*" non-lib packages won't hurt
[10:37] <RobC4> bensa just let me know how it ends up
[10:37] <RobC4> bensa I am going to hit the hay
[10:37] <bensa> robc4 could i move home to the other partion?
[10:37] <bensa> robc4: will do.  if it restarts the computer, i'll log back in.
[10:37] <RobC4> bensa you should be able to
[10:37] <RobC4> bensa awesome
[10:38] <soundray> nomego: indeed. Seems strange
[10:38] <bensa> robc4: thanks again for all your help! :D
[10:38] <RobC4> bensa not a problem, I am very interested if this will work
[10:38] <bensa> robc4: me too!
[10:38] <soundray> Almindor: what do you want to accomplish?
[10:39] <RobC4> bensa seeya
[10:39] <Almindor> soundray, fix pkg-config which I stupidly broke :)
[10:39] <bensa> robc4 night!
[10:39] <soundray> Almindor: give more detail please
[10:40] <Almindor> soundray, pkg-config is poofed (the .pc files in /usr/lib)
[10:40] <Almindor> soundray, the libs are there, but pkg-config doesn't know
[10:40] <Edge1981> thx for all the help
[10:40] <Almindor> soundray, it was a rather idiotic thing to do I know :)
[10:40] <Almindor> soundray, wasn't intentional;
[10:41] <bensa> help
[10:41] <Almindor> soundray, if I could just tell apt-get to reinstall all existing libraries (or just packages beggining with lib) that'd fix it in a jiffy
[10:42] <soundray> Almindor: 'dpkg --get-selections | grep ^lib | cut -f 1 | apt-get --reinstall install'
[10:42] <soundray> Almindor: mind you I haven't tested this
[10:42] <soundray> Almindor: and it's going to take a while
[10:43] <Almindor> soundray, no, did 0 changes
[10:44] <Almindor> soundray, missing xarg?
[10:44] <Almindor> the list seems fine
[10:44] <soundray> Almindor: yeah, sorry
[10:44] <soundray> Almindor: 'dpkg --get-selections | grep ^lib | cut -f 1 | xargs apt-get --reinstall install'
[10:45] <Almindor> damn
[10:45] <Almindor> fails on libopal
[10:45] <soundray> Almindor: how?
[10:45] <Almindor> "has no candidate for install"
[10:45] <Almindor> there was some libopal-ism in gutsy..
[10:46] <soundray> Does it work on the others?
[10:46] <Almindor> "libopal is not available but other package points to it" now that's funny coz I just installed it again o.O
[10:46] <Almindor> not it skips all others I guess there's a global check
[10:46] <ggoogi> After installing Ubuntu server 7.04 without a glitch (using ISO from the site), the first boot gets stuck at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)". what should I check?
[10:47] <soundray> Almindor: 'dpkg --get-selections | grep ^lib | grep -v libopal | cut -f 1 | xargs apt-get --reinstall install'
[10:47] <Almindor> soundray, ok, that goes, but it fails on the question of [Y/n] 
[10:47] <soundray> Almindor: 'dpkg --get-selections | grep ^lib | grep -v libopal | cut -f 1 | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install'
[10:47] <Almindor> soundray, eg: as if I pressed something != y
[10:47] <Almindor> ah :)
[10:47] <apeks> may somebody chat with me
[10:48] <apeks> i'm a newbie
[10:48] <Almindor> soundray, cool, thanks a million!
[10:48] <soundray> apeks: you have to ask a support question
[10:48] <soundray> Almindor: yw
[10:48] <apeks> ok
[10:48] <Almindor> I was making an elaborate deletion command when I mis-entered o.O
[10:49] <soundray> Almindor: can you write that on a big sign and pin it to the entrance of this channel please? :)
[10:49] <apeks> i'm using ubuntu feisty fawn that installed on my laptop
[10:49] <apeks> but now i don't know what to do
[10:50] <Almindor> soundray, hehe, you know people always get into trouble when debugging a frustrating bug :)
[10:50] <soundray> apeks: you want to learn your first steps with Ubuntu?
[10:50] <apeks> no
[10:50] <Almindor> soundray, it's too narrow focus or something, makes you lose your "IT sanity" and do the stupidest of things :)
[10:50] <apeks> i mean more than that
[10:51] <apeks> i think i can use ubuntu
[10:51] <WaltzingAlong> apeks: like starting a web browser ? like playing games? like keeping track of your finances?
[10:51] <Almindor> soundray, crap E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libcomerr2 :(
[10:51] <Almindor> soundray, I guess I could grep that one out too eh?
[10:51] <ObsidianX> hey folks, anybody have the Envy deb handy? the site to download it is down, gives me an internal error page
[10:52] <WaltzingAlong> !envy | ObsidianX
[10:52] <ubotu> ObsidianX: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:52] <soundray> Almindor: yes. And be careful about using profanity in the channel. When it gets busier, you'll be kicked.
[10:52] <apeks> yeah i like surfing
[10:52] <soundray> !envy | ObsidianX
[10:52] <apeks> but i don't know what to find
[10:52] <Almindor> soundray, not it's libgcc1 which IEs out, isn't this an apt-bug?
[10:52] <apeks> i use stumble to search hacking
[10:52] <Almindor> *now
[10:53] <apeks> i'm using firefox
[10:53] <soundray> Almindor: I don't know
[10:53] <apeks> i don't like IE
[10:53] <soundray> !enter | apeks
[10:53] <ubotu> apeks: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:53] <apeks> sorry
[10:53] <ObsidianX> i've used envy on my desktop, i know it works
[10:53] <apeks> i'm new bie
[10:54] <soundray> apeks: I'm still not clear what you actually want
[10:54] <soundray> !worksforme | ObsidianX
[10:54] <ubotu> ObsidianX: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[10:54] <apeks> i want to ask about comfiz
[10:55] <bensa> Hey, can anyone help me with this one, is "apt -get update" a command?
[10:55] <ObsidianX> damn, you got macros for everything here :P
[10:55] <soundray> apeks: why don't you then?
[10:55] <apeks> i have install comfiz my ECS G331 laptop but i can use it
[10:55] <soundray> bensa: no, 'apt-get update'
[11:59] (smmagic/#ubuntu) Plus if it doesn't work
[11:59] (Martiini/#ubuntu) as opposed to enyone who works in MS
[11:59] (smmagic/#ubuntu) Windows will still be there
[11:59] (elimin8/#ubuntu) kk
[11:59] (Stevethepirate/#ubuntu) Martiini: attempting to simulate quadro gfx-card
[12:00] (Stevethepirate/#ubuntu) Martiini: but only have 2 outputs...
[12:00] (Stevethepirate/#ubuntu) but need 4 desktops for the simulation...
[12:00] (smmagic/#ubuntu) Thank god I don't have ATI lol
[12:01] <elimin8> So you have 4 towers 2 monitors?
[12:01] <Stevethepirate> Naught
[12:01] <KenSentMe> Is it possible that when NM connects to a different access point that automaticly the smtp server in Evolution is changed?
[12:01] <Stevethepirate> I have one tower, 4 monitors
[12:01] <dardan> need init 6 later
[12:01] <elimin8> synergy
[12:01] <Stevethepirate> [one gfx card with 2 out, and now 2 extra vga out PCI cards
[12:02] <elimin8> http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[12:02] <Stevethepirate> so i need each monitor to have an image
[12:02] <elimin8> Ya your spliting one image 4 ways right?
[12:02] <elimin8> check that link
[12:02] <Asad2005> I want to rsync back up root partition what folder should i exclude
[12:02] <Stevethepirate> elimin8: no, wanna have 4 monitors, in a 2/2 array
[12:03] <elimin8> Thanksa again for the help guys. hope to see ya soon on a penguin box
[12:03] <smmagic> 6 days till gutsy :D
[12:03] <smmagic> I got a good name
[12:03] <smmagic> Bumbling baboon
[12:03] <Stevethepirate> elimin8: OH NOES.
[12:04] <Stevethepirate> no, not multiple desktops
[12:04] <elimin8> cant pm ya
[12:04] <Stevethepirate> I want to basically have a singel tower, with 4 workspaces
[12:04] <Stevethepirate> each with its own background and icons, etc.
[12:04] <elimin8> linux doesnt have extended desktop modes?
[12:05] <Stevethepirate> elimin8: ignore my graphics situation
[12:05] <Stevethepirate> pretend i just need a way to have 4 customized and different workspaces
[12:05] <smmagic> Oh and elimin8
[12:05] <elimin8> yep?
[12:05] <smmagic> Did the livecd burn ok?
[12:05] <smmagic> Could be problem
[12:05] <foxiness> am on beta version ,and using vbox 1.5 OSE, when i installed it am on other version what am on it now ,and seems that  sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup not work and point me to log file?
[12:05] <elimin8> havent done it yet, just finishing the dl
[12:05] <Stevethepirate> elimin8: http://wallpapoz.akbarhome.com/ maybe looks good.
[12:06] <elimin8> na i use 4 burning tools one will work lol
[12:06] <Stevethepirate> elimin8: talk to me :P
[12:06] <elimin8> Steve i cant pm ya
[12:06] <elimin8> not a reg user
[12:07] <smmagic> OK what does this mean
[12:07] <Stevethepirate> elimin8: you're not registered?
[12:07] <smmagic> You appear to running an X server
[12:07] <foxiness> now what i need to let virtualbox get to work with new kernel? ^^^ "above for more info"
[12:07] <smmagic> please exit X
[12:07] <elimin8> Actually that does look right, each desktop in linux is its own resource, should be able to set one up to go to each output monitor
[12:07] <Stevethepirate> elimin8: join #rofls_teh_cat
[12:07] <Stevethepirate> we can talk in there...
[12:10] <smmagic> Argh..
[12:10] <smmagic> Why can't I install driver
[12:11] <preaction> smmagic, are you using the Restricted Drivers Manager?
[12:11] <smmagic> No..
[12:11] <preaction> smmagic, you are running Fiesty, right?
[12:12] <smmagic> YEs
[12:12] <preaction> open up the restricted drivers manager under System > Administration
[12:12] <smmagic> Enable?
[12:12] <preaction> sounds good to me
[12:13] <smmagic> *BANG*
[12:13] <elimin8> Worked?
[12:13] <smmagic> Maybe
[12:13] <elimin8> This is why linux will beat windows down one day :P
[12:13] <elimin8> community.
[12:13] <Ghismo> good day guys
[12:13] <elimin8> See ya soon.
[12:13] <smmagic> Then linux gets viruses
[12:13] <smmagic> Need to restart
[12:13] <elimin8> Maybe
[12:14] <smmagic> Brb
[12:14] <Ghismo> can i pass to 7.10 candidate release by synaptic?
[12:14] <juaniv_a> hi
[12:14] <juaniv_a> guys
[12:14] <preaction> viruses don't work on linux because normal users do not have write permissions to executables (which is required for the virus to propagate)
[12:14] <WaltzingAlong> among other reasons
[12:15] <juaniv_a> i'm using an usb adsl modem, if i upgrade to gutsy will this continue working?
[12:15] <knuffelbeertje> RvGaTe
[12:15] <RvGaTe^work> :)
[12:15] <preaction> juaniv_a, you can test using the gutsy live CD, but i'd wait until gutsy is actually released
[12:15] <FallenHitokiri> juaniv_a: why should it sop working?
[12:16] <juaniv_a> yes i'm gonna wait
[12:16] <preaction> FallenHitokiri, he might be used to Windows hardware support regressing with advancing versions :(
[12:16] <juaniv_a> I'm asking because this is my first upgrade
[12:16] <smmagic> This is bad
[12:16] <smmagic> Resolution is stuffed
[12:17] <preaction> smmagic, change it?
[12:17] <Ghismo> can i install ubuntu 7.10 RC by synaptic?
[12:17] <smmagic> Oh 800x600 LOL
[12:17] <smmagic> OMG
[12:17] <smmagic> Other choice is 640x480
[12:18] <WaltzingAlong> Ghismo: update-manager -d
[12:18] <heguru> Ghismo: you can use update-manager to upgrade to 7.10, for further questions join #ubuntu+1
[12:18] <preaction> !fixres | smmagic
[12:18] <ubotu> smmagic: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:18] <Mechdave> Hi all, strange one, I want to be able to start/stop firefox as a service on the server via ssh from another box. I have the daemon written and it all works locally, but when I try remotely it says it cannot open display. Any pointers on how to open the display on the server from a remote machine?
[12:19] <Stevethepirate> Why would ff be a service?
[12:19] <smmagic> Which one do I do
[12:19] <WaltzingAlong> Mechdave: you need to set the DISPLAY enivornment variable and have permission to write the server
[12:19] <heguru> Mechdave: Why do you want to do that?
[12:20] <Mechdave> heguru: I have a project concerned with displaying a set of pages on a server which is to be administered via another machine
[12:20] <Mechdave> WaltzingAlong: thanks, will try :)
[12:23] <smmagic> Ok..
[12:23] <smmagic> Didn't work
[12:23] <Curs0r> so what's the deal with hd access under the linux kernel? ide, sata1, sata2, and scsi all report the same transfer speed here
[12:24] <npnuf1> what are the known issues with kubuntu 7.10 beta. is it worth to use?
[12:25] <smmagic> Time to deactivate legacy drivers
[12:25] <smmagic> Just stuffed up graphics
[12:25] <Scarey> npnuf1: can't wait 6 days? :)
[12:25] <WaltzingAlong> Curs0r: if you are connecting via ide you could check out hdparm
[12:25] <sherkin`> which package should I install for ssh ? open-ssh ?
[12:25] <Scarey> sherkin`: yep
[12:26] <Martiini> preaction, yea ,, and windows vista has really poor hardware and driveers support right?
[12:26] <sherkin`> thw Scarey
[12:26] <sherkin`> thx
[12:26] <Curs0r> WaltzingAlong, I tested all my bus speeds with hdparm -Tt and they all report the same speed
[12:26] <USMarine> !selection
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selection - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <npnuf1> yeah, I wanted to test it on production system.
[12:26] <USMarine> !clone
[12:26] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[12:26] <npnuf1> if it is not having much problems.
[12:26] <preaction> !offtopic | Martiini
[12:26] <ubotu> Martiini: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:26] <WaltzingAlong> Curs0r: hdparm can also be used to set parameters to improve performance
[12:26] <Scarey> npnuf1: beta's are not supposed to be used for production use even though they are close to final.
[12:26] <Martiini> preaction, what did you do that for?
[12:27] <Curs0r> WaltzingAlong, so using hdparm I can get 300mb/sec instead of 60 using sata2?
[12:27] <Martiini> U think I dont know what this is?
[12:27] <Martiini> geeks
[12:27] <preaction> Martiini, this is the ubuntu SUPPORT channel. talking about windows is off-topic. please take the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:27] <smmagic> Anyone know how to fix my resolution
[12:27] <WaltzingAlong> Curs0r: asaik hdparm is for configuring /dev/hd* devices
[12:27] <Martiini> preaction,  YOU were talking about windows
[12:27] <silvio> #ubuntu/es
[12:27] <npnuf1> so where can I get the alternative cd of kubuntu 7.10?
[12:28] <silvio> #ubuntu.es
[12:28] <WaltzingAlong> npnuf1: releases.ubuntu.com
[12:28] <USMarine> !es
[12:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:29] <npnuf1> thanks for the link.
[12:29] <smmagic> Anyone know?
[12:30] <Scarey> npnuf1: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.10/
[12:30] <ari_stress> !microsoft
[12:30] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:31] <ari_stress> :D
[12:32] <DeMoNSeEd> I need help, i'm tryin to install ubuntu on my AM2 4200+ and i keep getting: PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of Device 0000:00:14.0
[12:32] <DeMoNSeEd> any help appreciated
[12:33] <USMarine> i get that too
[12:33] <DeMoNSeEd> so i can't install ubuntu?
[12:34] <WaltzingAlong> DeMoNSeEd: does anything seem to not work or you just see that error?
[12:34] <DeMoNSeEd> that error
[12:35] <WaltzingAlong> DeMoNSeEd: perhaps just something from bios? or are you seeing a double speed error?
[12:35] <phantom> Help : My new HD isn't showing in My Computer (with Ubuntu the same). In bios SATA Control was disabled I set it to IDE restarted xp and got an dialog after some thime of hardware recognition to restart (at this time already appeared in My Computer an device with an red questionmark, after restart it remained the same. Isn't IDE the right choice what did I do wrong?
[12:36] <DeMoNSeEd> not that i realize
[12:36] <ozgur> help me
[12:36] <smmagic> Who suggested for me to use legacy drivers?
[12:36] <ozgur> help
[12:36] <smmagic> I can try
[12:36] <Scarey> ozgur: are you drowning?
[12:36] <Stevethepirate> !ask | ozgur
[12:36] <ubotu> ozgur: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:36] <heguru> ozgur: ask your question
[12:37] <ozgur> ok
[12:37] <ari_stress> Vi is a good example of software deliberately created for a user who already knows how it works: It's not unheard of for new users to reboot their computers because they couldn't figure out how else to get out of vi.
[12:37] <ari_stress> lol
[12:37] <Stevethepirate> ari_stress: ctrl-z ftw :P
[12:37] <Scarey> ari_stress: true :) first lession in vi is how to quit
[12:37] <ari_stress> yeah :)
[12:37] <npnuf1> ari_stress; I did it many times in the beginning of vi usage.
[12:37] <Stevethepirate> Scarey: i stick to kate and pico.. although i've heard vi > *
[12:38] <npnuf1> Does the 7.04 netboot images are sufficient for 7.10 network install?
[12:38] <ozgur> im logging in from playstation3 right now i want to install flash 9 and java but i couldunt install them powerpc system using Gnash program can do them but i intsalled Gnash from add and remove i installed nothing happened
[12:38] <Scarey> I've always used Joe (in the good old days)
[12:38] <phantom> Help : My new HD isn't showing in My Computer (with Ubuntu the same). In bios SATA Control was disabled I set it to IDE restarted xp and got an dialog after some thime of hardware recognition to restart (at this time already appeared in My Computer an device with an red questionmark, after restart it remained the same. Isn't IDE the right choice what did I do wrong?
[12:38] <ozgur> i am using ubuntu 7.04 too
[12:38] <Scarey> but mostly I just use gedit since I'm hardly in a console only enviroment
[12:39] <ari_stress> npnuf1: i think in ubuntu for network install they require the exact same image as the os
[12:39] <ozgur> i couldnt watch youtube videos
[12:39] <thedonvaughn> phantom, uhm.  wrong channel ?
[12:39] <Scarey> Stevethepirate: or one could use nano .. I heard :)
[12:39] <etzerd> hello all
[12:39] <smmagic> Get flash plugin for firefox?
[12:39] <ozgur> help me
[12:39] <npnuf1> then I should ask again where can I find them!
[12:39] <etzerd> how can I add the software to play DVD?
[12:40] <Stevethepirate> Scarey: i use nano a bit
[12:40] <phantom> thedonvaughn: I need quickly some help where can I get it?
[12:40] <Stevethepirate> etzerd: you heard of google?
[12:40] <etzerd> I'm using the RC1 version
[12:40] <ari_stress> etzerd: usually ubuntu will offer you to install additional plugin to play dvd
[12:40] <etzerd> Yes I heard of google
[12:40] <Stevethepirate> well.
[12:40] <Stevethepirate> you could google it, or get vlc
[12:40] <Scarey> flash help: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[12:40] <thedonvaughn> phantom, *shrugs* for windows?  i guess microsoft support, and good luck.  we tend to use ubuntu in here, since it's #ubuntu :)
[12:41] <Stevethepirate> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:41] <ari_stress> !dvd
[12:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:41] <Stevethepirate> ari_stress: vlc is > * :P
[12:41] <thedonvaughn> phantom, do you see the drive in ubuntu?  What does sudo /sbin/fdisk -l show?
[12:41] <smmagic> Anyone know how to get direct rendering working on nvidia TNT2?
[12:41] <autodidakt> hi, how do i run a *.sh script from the console?
[12:42] <Mortenkromann> !dk
[12:42] <thedonvaughn> !nvidia | smmagic
[12:42] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[12:42] <ubotu> smmagic: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:42] <Stevethepirate> ari_stress: i have a question.. i have a "Music" folder, spread over 3 harddrives [its quite big] .. is there a way to make a virtual folder /home/Music which is really all the files from all 3 hdd's?
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> smmagic: install the nvidia-glx-legacy package
[12:42] <phantom> thedonvaughn:I quicly boot to ubuntu please wait
[12:42] <ari_stress> Stevethepirate: no, that feature is only supported in solaris or any other using unionfs, ext3 cannot do that
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> smmagic: but you could just use the restricted-manager to install restricted software: drivers, firmware, and such
[12:43] <smmagic> Tryed it
[12:43] <smmagic> Stuffed up my resolution
[12:43] <Stevethepirate> ari_stress: the other drives are ntfs
[12:43] <ari_stress> Stevethepirate: it only make it impossible :)
[12:44] <Stevethepirate> sighs :(
[12:44] <autodidakt> hi, how do i run a *.sh script from the console?
[12:44] <thedonvaughn> Stevethepirate, back up the files.   re-format the 3 drives and make them a Logical volume (RAID).  Then copy the music folder back onto the logical volume? :)   Other than that, realistically no way
[12:44] <USMarine> WaltzingAlong: i have that error too but it doesn't affect the system at all
[12:44] <ari_stress> Stevethepirate: but you can make a playlist to play them all, right?
[12:44] <dystopianray> autodidakt: chmod +x blah.sh ; ./blah.sh
[12:44] <Stevethepirate> thedonvaughn: gtfo.. its > 4 TB of data
[12:44] <thedonvaughn> autodidakt, make sure it has the executable bit set.  chmod +x file.sh && ./file.sh
[12:45] <autodidakt> thx
[12:45] <smmagic> Anyone else know?
[12:45] <thedonvaughn> Stevethepirate, life is rough then :)
[12:45] <thedonvaughn> !nvidia | smmagic
[12:45] <Stevethepirate> ari_stress: yeah.. its also movies that i have.. so i'd like to be able to 'ls' over all the HDD's at the same time..
[12:45] <ubotu> smmagic: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:45] <alan___> quit
[12:45] <Stevethepirate> ari_stress: as oppoed to search through each one individually
[12:46] <Matthai> helo, is there any GUI driven backup, like rsync?
[12:46] <smmagic> Why does this say vanta.
[12:46] <smmagic> Wait..New computer =.=
[12:46] <ari_stress> Stevethepirate: since you have so many collections, i think it's time for you to manage it using a software to catalog all your mp3s and videos?
[12:46] <smmagic> Whoopsie LOL
[12:46] <ari_stress> !backup
[12:46] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[12:47] <WaltzingAlong> !sbackup
[12:47] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[12:47] <Stevethepirate> Okay, heres a random Q.... I need a web service that allows people to upload and download photo's [through web interface]  as well as browse through all the pics...
[12:47] <Stevethepirate> ari_stress: only 760gigs movies :P
[12:47] <Stevethepirate> avi >> :P
[12:47] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate: apache + gallery
[12:47] <smmagic> ubotu: That doesn't help because that driver stuffed my resolution
[12:47] <Stevethepirate> WaltzingAlong: that doesn't allow people to upload photos though..
[12:47] <Stevethepirate> its like.. facebook photo gallery idea..
[12:48] <WaltzingAlong> Stevethepirate: gallery.sf.net? sure it does
[12:48] <Stevethepirate> each person must have an account as well..
[12:48] <ari_stress> Stevethepirate: yeah gallery is a well known web photo gallery
[12:49] <Stevethepirate> so its like a picasa thingy?
[12:49] <ari_stress> similar
[12:49] <ari_stress> Stevethepirate: is that why your nickname is 'pirate'? you're collecting pirated movies???? :D
[12:49] <Stevethepirate> no
[12:50] <Stevethepirate> They're legal backups of my movies..
[12:50] <Stevethepirate> I have > 500 dvds.. all legal
[12:50] <ari_stress> cool
[12:50] <Stevethepirate> but, due to my dvd collection, mates call me 'Teh Pirate"
[12:50] <ari_stress> :D
[12:50] <USMarine> WaltzingAlong: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/54294
[12:50] <Stevethepirate> [My names not even Steve}
[12:50] <smmagic> So anyone know how to get direct rendering working on a vanta nvidia card
[12:51] <AJ--> ei guys how can i start ubuntu without X or GUI... only text mode
[12:51] <ari_stress> AJ--: turn off gdm
[12:51] <USMarine> AJ--: don't install gdm or kdm
[12:51] <heguru> AJ--: to disable gdm type: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[12:51] <autodidakt> i tried to run a shellscript but if i du "sudo ./criptname i get an error "permission denied"
[12:51] <arun_> does anyone here have chandler installed?
[12:52] <illusion-1> Hello pliz How to startx x in chroot ubuntu
[12:52] <illusion-1> ?
[12:52] <heguru> autodidakt: chmod +x scriptname
[12:52] <AJ--> tnx a lot guys
[12:52] <ari_stress> AJ--: sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[12:52] <AJ--> :D
[12:52] <ari_stress> autodidakt: make sure it's chmod executable
[12:53] <ari_stress> autodidakt: sudo chmod +x script.sh
[12:53] <autodidakt> i dont know what this means :/
[12:53] <heguru> autodidakt: it adds execute permission to the script
[12:53] <autodidakt> and how do i do that?
[12:53] <thedonvaughn> autodidakt, go google unix file permissions... in a nutshell just make sure the executable bit is set for your user or group on the file.  chmod +x file
[12:53] <ari_stress> autodidakt: sudo chmod +x script.sh
[12:53] <illusion-1> heguru, How can i startx in chroot ubuntu ?
[12:54] <autodidakt> hm its on a cs so i cant change the permission
[12:54] <thedonvaughn> illusion-1, you will need to have X and it's environment installed in the chroot environment.
[12:54] <phantom> thedonvaughn : Im bac now what was the comand?
[12:54] <autodidakt> cd
[12:54] <heguru> illusion-1: typing startx should do the trick if you have everything correctly done
[12:54] <thedonvaughn> phantom, sudo fdisk -l or sudo /sbin/fdisk -l
[12:54] <heguru> illusion-1: you will need to mount the udev
[12:54] <thedonvaughn> phantom, how many drives do you see?
[12:54] <illusion-1> i mount /proc and /sys
[12:54] <illusion-1> and x installed
[12:55] <illusion-1> but i can login in gdm
[12:55] <illusion-1> he ask me for user+pass
[12:55] <illusion-1> i remaster livecd ubuntu
[12:55] <thedonvaughn> autodidakt, copy it off of the cd
[12:55] <autodidakt> sure but is there no toher way?
[12:55] <heguru> illusion-1: so what is the problem?
[12:56] <illusion-1> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:56] <illusion-1> cp /etc/resolv.conf $CUSTOMCD/system/etc/
[12:56] <illusion-1> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf $CUSTOMCD/system/etc/X11/
[12:56] <illusion-1> chroot $CUSTOMCD/system/
[12:56] <illusion-1> mount -o none /proc
[12:56] <illusion-1> mount -o none /sys
[12:56] <illusion-1> export HOME=/etc/skel/
[12:56] <thedonvaughn> autodidakt, if it's on a read-only medium like a cd-rom, no.  you can't change the file permission
[12:56] <illusion-1> cd /dev/
[12:56] <illusion-1> MAKEDEV generic
[12:56] <illusion-1> MAKEDEV pty
[12:56] <illusion-1> /etc/init.d/dbus start
[12:56] <illusion-1> /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:56] <illusion-1> it is correct ?
[12:56] <heguru> !pastebin | illusion-1
[12:56] <ubotu> illusion-1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:56] <illusion-1> but i cant login in livecd
[12:56] <thedonvaughn> illovae, please use pastebin
[12:56] <illusion-1> he ask me for user and password
[12:56] <heguru> illusion-1: enter the username and password
[12:56] <autodidakt> kk i thaught maybe i could change sth on the device permission
[12:56] <phantom> thedonvaughn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40359/
[12:57] <illusion-1> what is the user and pass of livecd ubuntu 7.04
[12:57] <autodidakt> thedonvaughn, thx i'm copying ^^
[12:57] <illusion-1> ?
[12:57] <thedonvaughn> phantom, u typed it wrong.  what was the exact command you used?  Just issue "sudo fdisk -l"  OR "sudo /sbin/fdisk -l"
[12:57] <Crash91> hello, can anyone help me install a liveCd image to my 2GB USB stick?
[12:57] <thedonvaughn> autodidakt, np
[12:57] <thedonvaughn> illusion-1, ubuntu and no password i believe
[12:58] <heguru> illusion-1: ubuntu and no password
[12:58] <illusion-1> not Work !
[12:58] <USMarine> Crash91: inde Kde you just have to plugin it in
[12:58] <heguru> illusion-1: but that might not work because gdm by default disallows null passwords
[12:58] <USMarine> and it's installed
[12:58] <heguru> illusion-1: add a password to ubuntu, type passwd on CLI to do that
[12:58] <Crash91> USMarine: what do you mean?
[12:58] <illusion-1> aha then How i start gnome-session without gdm start ?
[12:59] <heguru> illusion-1: startx
[12:59] <USMarine> Crash91: you stick the usb pen into the usb port, and it's mounted for you
[12:59] <thedonvaughn> illusion-1, put gnome-session in your .xinitrc and type 'start'x
[12:59] <illusion-1> ok i will try thnx :)
[12:59] <thedonvaughn> illusion-1, er 'startx'
[12:59] <Filemon> Hey, just wanted to ask-- is there any way getting Fluxbuntu? The website is down...
[12:59] <Crash91> USMarine: not mounting! installing a LiveCD image to it, i.e OS-on-a-stick
[12:59] <USMarine> !install
[12:59] <Crash91> Filemon: Torrent??
[12:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:00] <phantom> thedonvaughn:  "sudo fdisk -l"     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40362/
[01:00] <Crash91> ubotu: Thanks
[01:00] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:00] <Filemon> Crash91: right.. search came up empty... just some old alpha ver. with no seeders
[01:00] <USMarine> Crash91: thank me ffs
[01:00] <thedonvaughn> phantom, yup sees 2 discs.  /dev/sda is your sata and /dev/hda is your IDE/PATA
[01:00] <thedonvaughn> phantom, your sata is currently blank with no partitions according to fdisk
[01:00] <Crash91> USMarine: you completely misunderstood what i said...
[01:01] <thedonvaughn> phantom, 500GB SATA and 160GB IDE
[01:01] <USMarine> well, i invoked the bot to tell you the links
[01:01] <thedonvaughn> phantom, ubuntu sees it just fine :)
[01:01] <USMarine> lol..
[01:02] <USMarine> !karma -1 Crash91
[01:02] <Crash91> USMarine: oh, Thanks then, ffs
[01:02] <phantom> thedonvaughn: That probably changet since i set it to IDE . So windows is my problem now. Any IDEA? please
[01:02] <thedonvaughn> phantom, I haven't used Windows since Windows 95 man.  I have no idea my friend.
[01:03] <thedonvaughn> off topic in here
[01:03] <taomaster> a little help please- how do i change root password in 7.10 ?
[01:03] <phantom> thedonvaughn: Thanks anyway.
[01:03] <heguru> !windows
[01:03] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:03] <heguru> !root | taomaster
[01:03] <ubotu> taomaster: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:03] <arun_> does anyone here have chandler installed?
[01:04] <taomaster> heguru  thanks
[01:05] <Crash91> does ubuntu fully support dual core?
[01:05] <heguru> Crash91: yes
[01:05] <dardan> Stevethepirate: can i install kde4 via synaptic?i installed but can`t see anywhere kde4...
[01:05] <thedonvaughn> Crash91, the linux kernel does infact, so Ubuntu in turn does.  :)
[01:05] <USMarine> Crash91: yes
[01:05] <heguru> dardan: only on gutsy
[01:05] <Crash91> =) thanks guys
[01:06] <tsukasa__> anyone know of a good program to poke around on the network to find any windows shares
[01:06] <heguru> tsukasa__: nmap
[01:07] <Stevethepirate> dardan: sudo aptitude search kde4
[01:07] <xIke> Crash: it likes my intel core 2 duo
[01:07] <dardan> thx Stevethepirate
[01:08] <dardan> it says it is installed
[01:08] <dardan> i A kde4base
[01:13] <trpr> tsukasa__: maybe something like pyneighborhood is what you are looking for
[01:14] <bela> hi, I just tryed to install the last ubuntu alterante rc7.10, errors occur in bootst
[01:14] <ukdsl> hi all
[01:14] <tarnap> how can i change the rights of a port?
[01:14] <heguru> bela: support for 7.10 in #ubuntu+1
[01:15] <tarnap> i want to run a server on port 21
[01:15] <tarnap> as non-root
[01:15] <tarnap> and i'm unable to bind the port 21 to my software
[01:15] <tarnap> 'cause it's a "privileged" port
[01:16] <ukdsl> ive tried 3 networks cards in a box now. lshw -C network shows them all as disabled :S first two were realtek, latest is an 82541GI
[01:16] <mahone> I have a problem with swap partitions in Ubuntu 7.04
[01:17] <stinger05> hello
[01:17] <mahone> Hello
[01:17] <heguru> mahone: what is the problem?
[01:17] <dooglus> I just booted, and my ext3 partition was checked (it's been 31 mounts without a check, etc).  It told me it is 10% fragmented, but didn't offer to defrag.  Where's the defrag tool?
[01:17] <mahone> The problem is that I can hibernate, but when I switch the system on again...
[01:17] <stinger05> i can't seem to shutdown the Xserver only by using sudo killall Xorg
[01:17] <mahone> the system is not restored to the previous state
[01:17] <stinger05> but the problem is that it's restarting
[01:18] <mahone> but it instead goes through the "normal" boot process....
[01:18] <mahone> In /etc/fstab, I have a like like this
[01:18] <heguru> mahone don't paste here
[01:19] <heguru> !pastebin | mahone
[01:19] <ubotu> mahone: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:19] <mahone> OK, why?
[01:19] <Cubey> hi
[01:19] <mahone> It's just a single line
[01:19] <heguru> stinger05: it will keep restarting, use sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:19] <heguru> mahone: ok then
[01:19] <heguru> mahone: i thought you're pasting the whole fstab! (we get that here alot)
[01:20] <Cyber_Stalker> could some one please help me i have my digital cam plugged into my ubuntu machine (feisty) but its not detecting it
[01:20] <stinger05> heguru: the X server doesnt shut down using that command
[01:20] <zgmf-x20a> hey can someone please help me.  i need to get my cd rom drive up and running on my laptop.  it is an asus f3sv-a1.  the hardware works perfectly fine, and used it to install kubuntu, yet it is not recognized
[01:20] <dooglus> I just booted, and my ext3 partition was checked (it's been 31 mounts without a check, etc).  It told me it is 10% fragmented, but didn't offer to defrag.  Where's the defrag tool?  My system keeps getting slower and slower - I reckon a defrag might help.  What do you guys do about the problem?
[01:20] <heguru> stinger05: are you using ubuntu?
[01:20] <rico_> hey... when I login into my system, the gnome splash screen stays for a lnog time and it takes ages (many minutes) for the system to get into a usable state. how can I trace what's causing this?
[01:20] <stinger05> yes
[01:20] <heguru> stinger05: you have to run this command from terminal, did you get any error?
[01:20] <Zasch> Hello: I just downloaded Thunderbird, but I don't know how to install it. Can anyone assist? I extracted the directory, but I don't know where to go from here
[01:21] <stinger05> it only shuts down the GNOME display manager
[01:21] <heguru> Zasch: why not use the one from repository? goto System -> Administration -> Synaptic and search for thunderbird
[01:21] <mahone> dev/sda6 none swap sw 0 0
[01:21] <mahone> (with the '/' at the beginning)
[01:21] <heguru> stinger05: that should end X as well
[01:22] <zengen> Does anyone know how I can send the output of a md5sum check to a text file?
[01:22] <mahone> The system worked since some days ago, but then for some strange reason it stopped hibernating and resuming correctly
[01:22] <heguru> dooglus: ext3 does not need defrag, it manages the fragmentation level automatically
[01:22] <stinger05> should i type that in terminal? is it okay if i did typed it after pressing ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[01:22] <Pici> zengen: md5sum file > sum.txt   (I'm just guessing)
[01:22] <Zasch> heguru: The one from the repository doesn't appear to be the latest one, and I don't know if the difference is significant or not
[01:22] <dooglus> heguru: it keeps getting more and more fragmented.  it's currently at 10% and very slow.
[01:23] <zengen> Pici:  Than you, I'll try that.
[01:23] <zengen> thank*
[01:23] <mahone> I also tried to recreate the swap partition with mkswap /dev/sda6
[01:23] <dooglus> heguru: sometimes it takes over a minute to save to 20KB file
[01:23] <mahone> And it gives me back the UUID of the new swap partition
[01:23] <heguru> Zasch: the difference is not significant IMO, you can update to gutsy once its launched after 6 days as it contains the latest
[01:24] <xion344> anyone know here how to install flash in ubuntu?
[01:24] <mahone> But when I try to put it into the /etc/fstab file, and then do 'swapon -a', the system says me that a partition with that UUID doesn't exists...
[01:24] <stinger05> heguru: would it make a difference if i typed sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop after pressing ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[01:25] <joar> ival: if you do a dist-upgrade for each version between dapper and feisty it should work
[01:25] <heguru> stinger05: try that
[01:25] <heguru> xion344: you can install it using synaptic, seach for flashplugin-nonfree
[01:25] <stinger05> i already did but my NVIDIA driver setup program keeps on telling me that Xserver is running :S
[01:25] <mahone> Is there anyone who could help me, please?
[01:26] <kondor101> Is it possible to transfer all my data, my whole hard drive, on to a new hard drive?
[01:26] <heguru> mahone: can you check if your swap is mounted? sudo cat /proc/swaps
[01:26] <joar> ival: I did an upgrade from dapper to feisty with seemingly nor problems... but it was a test system, I just confermed that it booted after the upgrade without any notable errors
[01:27] <mahone> Yes, it is, but the priority is "-2"
[01:27] <RRichard> If i want two HDD's on my system the first C: is mount / and the second D: ?
[01:27] <heguru> mahone: thats ok
[01:27] <mahone> Do you know if I could remove the swap partition, and use a swap file to hibernate?
[01:27] <heguru> mahone: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:27] <mahone> 7.04
[01:27] <rico_> hey... when I login into my system, the gnome splash screen stays for a lnog time and it takes ages (many minutes) for the system to get into a usable state. how can I trace what's causing this?
[01:28] <mahone> I repeat, if I use the UUID "new" system, it doesn't work...
[01:28] <heguru> mahone: how big is your swap file and how much ram do you have
[01:28] <joar> kondor101: yes, using '# dd if=/dev/partitionToClone of=/dev/partitionToCloneTo
[01:28] <mahone> 2GB, and the RAM is 2GB
[01:28] <dooglus> rico_: I don't know, but when I've seen that before it's been 'esd's fault.  try killing esd - does that speed it up?
[01:28] <heguru> mahone: increase your swap to 4GB
[01:28] <mahone> Why?
[01:29] <heguru> mahone: for hibernate you need more swap than RAM
[01:29] <heguru> mahone: it stores the RAM and the information to resume
[01:29] <jc-denton> hi all
[01:29] <joar> kondor101: note that if you clone the partition containing your mbr, the mbr would have to be cloned by itself
[01:29] <heguru> mahone: second thing, you told me that UUID is not working with swap
[01:29] <mahone> But it worked since some days ago...
[01:29] <dooglus> 4GB is a stupid amount of swap - you'll never get close to using it all
[01:29] <kondor101> joar : are you staying on a while?  I am going to install the thing first
[01:29] <mahone> Yes, heguru
[01:29] <dooglus> the old "double the amount of RAM" rule doesn't apply any more
[01:29] <heguru> dooglus: he's talking about HIBERNATE
[01:29] <fnocht> hi.
[01:30] <kondor101> joar  I do not know what mbr means to be honest
[01:30] <AJ--> sudo update-rc.d gdm install <--- will this give back my gui???
[01:30] <joar> kondor101: I will be to and from here... if you priv msg me I will answer when possible :)
[01:30] <kondor101> joar : thanks, this might take some time :)  if your gone when i come back thats fine
[01:30] <heguru> dooglus: and incase you didn't know that, hibernate copies the RAM to swap parition
[01:30] <dooglus> heguru: twice?
[01:31] <inflex> Hey thre guys, where are you hiding the crypt() library's for C ?
[01:31] <joar> kondor101: as long as you don't delete the partition being copied, don't worry too much about mbr, you'll find out if you have to copy that one as well, and it's no problem doing that later
[01:31] <heguru> dooglus: if he's using some swap and hibernates, he would need 2GB for his RAM + resume instructions + the swap being used, so to be safe yes 2xRAM
[01:31] <mahone> Could I use a swap file in /, instead than a partition?
[01:31] <RvGaTe^work> inflex, becouse it contains piracy software... and we dont want you to find out.... oops... guess you know now :/
[01:32] <inflex> O_o
[01:32] <linux4me> i'm trying to setup lvs-dr with ultramonkey, is there a channel dedicated to lvs?
[01:32] <heguru> mahone: back to you, you have to change the resume partition in menu.lst under /boot/grub to match your current swap partion
[01:32] <joar> kondor101: http://www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-use-the-dd-command/
[01:32] <ziko234> hey someone speak polish??
[01:32] <mahone> what should I modify?
[01:32] <inflex> RvGaTe^work: dernit... I love it when they move functions in/out of libs
[01:33] <dooglus> inflex: -lcrypt
[01:33] <inflex> dooglus: that much I have... the question is, which lib/apt pkg does it come from :(
[01:33] <mahone> Should I add resume=/dev/sda6?
[01:33] <stinger05> can the Xserver be killed in livecd mode ?
[01:34] <italian_spike> hi
[01:34] <heguru> mahone: yes
[01:34] <dooglus> inflex: libc6-dev: usr/lib/libcrypt.a
[01:34] <mahone> Could you explain me why the UUID system doesn't work?
[01:34] <italian_spike> what can i use to substitute msn messenger?
[01:34] <LuCypher> Hi how can I enable mod_rewrite in apache2?
[01:34] <italian_spike> amsn is giving me too many problems in gnome
[01:34] <LuCypher> I've tried a2enmod rewrite
[01:34] <heguru> mahone: maybe you're not specifying the right UUID's
[01:35] <mahone> I specify the one that 'mkswap' gives me at the end of the creation process...
[01:35] <vladi_> how do i burn cds in ubuntu?
[01:35] <italian_spike> ?
[01:35] <vladi_> or better...what's the application for burning CDs
[01:36] <heguru> vladi_: insert a blank cd/dvd, goto Places -> CD/DVD Creater
[01:36] <vladi_> tnx
[01:36] <heguru> vladi_: you can also install and use gnomebaker if you need more than basics
[01:36] <vladi_> nah
[01:36] <stinger05> heguru: can the Xserver be killed in livecd mode ?
[01:36] <vladi_> only an mp3 cd
[01:36] <vladi_> for my car radio
[01:36] <heguru> vladi_: then use the first method
[01:36] <vladi_> ok tnx alot
[01:37] <marcus> feisty 2.6.20-16 is a real loser: after rebooting, I can't even logon to GNOME failsafe session.  it's hanging somewhere, with an empty rectangle in the upper left corner
[01:37] <inflex> dooglus: okay, one more question - what package are all the programming man pages hidden in?
[01:37] <LuCypher> vladi_ : you could try Brasero too...
[01:37] <heguru> stinger05: well i am not sure, can you check /etc/event.d/ to see if there is some file that's respawning X?
[01:37] <mahone> I specify the one that 'mkswap' gives me at the end of the creation process...
[01:37] <inflex> (from that I can stop asking dumb questions)
[01:37] <marcus> but my primary problem right now is that even 2.6.20-15 seems to have problems now, exim can't connect to port 25
[01:37] <Stevethepirate> I need a way to change the top and bottom images of my desktop cube
[01:37] <mahone> heguru, do you know what could the problem be?
[01:38] <italian_spike> doesn't anyone use msn messenger in ubuntu?
[01:38] <heguru> mahone: well unless I try to troubleshoot it with you, I don't think i would know
[01:38] <rico_> dooglus, how do I disable esd>
[01:38] <vladi_> LuCypher: why would i download and install more applications if i already have the burning program integrated in ubuntu?
[01:38] <inflex> dooglus: aah, found the ones I want... manpages-posix-dev
[01:38] <heguru> italian_spike: I don't think it works, you can use pidgin/gaim/amsn
[01:39] <mahone> Another thing, heguru (or anyone else who knows): Could I use a swap file into '/', instead than a partition?
[01:39] <italian_spike> heguru: thats what i use but it's giving lots of problems in gnome and was wondering if there something better?
[01:39] <Mortenkromann> italian_spike: i use gaim
[01:39] <joelliot> italian_spike...I tried msn messenger thru wine ...doesn't work properly
[01:39] <heguru> mahone: though you can do something like that, but resume (from hibernate) only works if swap is on a partition and not a file
[01:39] <rico_> how do I find out what runlevel i'm running?
[01:40] <mahone> OK, I understand. Thanks
[01:40] <heguru> rico_: telinit
[01:40] <joelliot> italian_spike .. as suggested by heguru use pidgin
[01:40] <seanm1> hello need help installing vmware tools - keep getting a previous install detected, get an errot when runnng uninstall
[01:40] <heguru> rico_: sorry, runlevel
[01:40] <rico_> telinit just shows "telinit: illegal runlevel: (null)"
[01:40] <rico_> o ok :)
[01:40] <rico_> "N 2" == runlevel 2?
[01:40] <heguru> rico_: yes
[01:40] <heguru> rico_: default runlevel in ubuntu is 2
[01:41] <LuCypher> vladi_ : de gustibus...
[01:42] <vladi_> ?
[01:42] <rico_> so how can i turn off esd?
[01:42] <vladi_> LuCypher: what does that mean? pedercino jedna
[01:42] <heguru> rico_: System -> Preferences -> Sound then click at sounds tab
[01:43] <mahone> I need an advice on softwares for Ubuntu...
[01:43] <seanm1> hello need help installing vmware tools - keep getting a previous install detected, get an errot when runnng uninstall
[01:43] <heguru> mahone: ask your question
[01:43] <rico_> oh nice thanks :)
[01:43] <mahone> I'm looking for a GUI to iptables, so that I can setup a personal firewall...
[01:43] <js_> mahone: firestarter is ok
[01:43] <mahone> I've seen through synaptics that there are at least 2-3 alternatives...
[01:43] <LuCypher> vladi_ : it's Latin... De gustibus non est disputandum. = 	There is no disputing about tastes.
[01:43] <heguru> mahone: guarddog if you know firewall and iptables and want greater control
[01:43] <splinter> hello
[01:44] <heguru> mahone: firestarter if you just need basic personal firewall
[01:44] <gorski> is it possible to make a script for these two commands? eciadsl-start  pon dsl-provider
[01:44] <mahone> OK, thanks heguru and js_ for the advice. What about backup programs? I'd like to do periodic backups of entire partitions...
[01:44] <vladi_> LuCypher: and why do you speak latin with me? :)
[01:44] <Pici> gorski: just write the two commands in a file, chmod +x it and voila, you have a scropt.
[01:44] <vladi_> i don't study medicine
[01:44] <Pici> And a script
[01:44] <splinter> fuck your mother
[01:44] <murlidhar> how to check a md5sum of the cd
[01:44] <splinter>  :D
[01:45] <Pici> !language | splinter
[01:45] <heguru> !ohmy | splinter
[01:45] <ubotu> splinter: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:45] <murlidhar> !oops | splinter
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oops - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <murlidhar> grr
[01:45] <LuCypher> vladi_  : ;-)
[01:45] <Jeeves_> Hi there
[01:45] <splinter> i dont speak english ubotu
[01:45] <TaBo> hi
[01:45] <seanm1> OK PRETTY PLEASE HELP = hello need help installing vmware tools - keep getting a previous install detected, get an errot when runnng uninstall
[01:45] <TaBo> who's here?"
[01:45] <splinter>  8-)
[01:45] <Jeeves_> Anyone here running Gutsy with 'Visual Effects' at 'normal'?
[01:45] <heguru> mahone: you can use amanda, but its cli based
[01:45] <Pici> Jeeves_: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[01:45] <TaBo> who can help me
[01:45] <TaBo> ?
[01:46] <murlidhar> how to check a md5sum of a file in ubuntu
[01:46] <Pici> TaBo: just ask
[01:46] <Jeeves_> Pici: Ehm, ok. :)
[01:46] <jatt> murlidhar: with md5sum
[01:46] <TaBo> i have voodoo 3 graphic card
[01:46] <splinter> can you speaking to french
[01:46] <splinter> ?
[01:46] <TaBo> and ubuntu as you see..
[01:46] <heguru> !fr | splinter
[01:46] <ubotu> splinter: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:46] <TaBo> and i want the desktop effect
[01:46] <murlidhar> jatt: do i have to install it
[01:46] <mahone> And what about GUI based backup applications?
[01:46] <TaBo> my card support?
[01:47] <WaltzingAlong> seanm1: not really so difficult. how did you install vmware?
[01:47] <TaBo> like the cube..
[01:47] <vladi_> LuCypher: :))
[01:47] <splinter> oui mais le #ubuntu-fdr n'es pas plein
[01:47] <Pici> TaBo: voodoo 3s are really old, I'm not sure its going to work.
[01:47] <splinter>  :(
[01:47] <TaBo> :(
[01:47] <vladi_> TaBo:
[01:47] <vladi_> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[01:47] <jatt> murlidhar: is in the coreutils package should be installed already on your machine
[01:47] <TaBo> even not other softwere?
[01:47] <Cubey> Does anyone have any idea what might cause video lag (?) on an installation with official nvidia drivers proper for the hardware, and glxgears gives over 2000 fps?
[01:47] <Pici> TaBo: I would ask in #ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion if you want to be 100% sure.
[01:47] <splinter> yes this chan is good
[01:47] <seanm1> off my local drive afer download
[01:48] <TaBo> thank's
[01:48] <vladi_> even not other software?
[01:48] <vladi_> tabo
[01:48] <vladi_> on the page i gave you
[01:48] <TaBo> yup?
[01:48] <vladi_> i found a way
[01:48] <vladi_> to install compiz-fusion
[01:48] <Cubey> the video card is an fx5500 256MB AGP, by the way
[01:48] <vladi_> and all the effects work
[01:48] <TaBo> on voodo 3?
[01:48] <Pici> !enter
[01:48] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:48] <vladi_> i don't believe so
[01:48] <TaBo> oo.. i see
[01:49] <TaBo> i try to install that software
[01:49] <TaBo> but it dosn't work
[01:49] <TaBo> i have voodo 3
[01:49] <TaBo> =\
[01:49] <vladi_> yeah
[01:49] <vladi_> get a better card
[01:49] <vladi_> :D
[01:49] <vladi_> voodoo 3 is prehistoric :D lol
[01:49] <Pici> TaBo: Please ask about it in #ubuntu-effects and/or #compiz-fusion, they will give you a definitive answer.
[01:49] <Cubey> ..anyone?
[01:49] <IdleOne> !enter | vladi_ TaBo
[01:49] <ubotu> vladi_ TaBo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:49] <smmagic> Anyone know how to fix resolution after installing nvidia driver
[01:49] <TaBo> thank's any way. i'm searching for other software that will support
[01:49] <mahone> I have an ATI Radeon X700 Mobile, and Compiz doesn't work with me
[01:49] <vladi_> IdleOne :)
[01:50] <splinter> fuck
[01:50] <SleepyHare> Hello, my system have "lost" all my external usb-drives, is there a way to recover them? Feisty.
[01:50] <splinter> fuck
[01:50] <IdleOne> splinter:
[01:50] <IdleOne> !ohmy
[01:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:50] <splinter> fuck your mother ubotu
[01:50] <Pici> mahone: compiz-fusion?
[01:50] <Pici> !ops | splinter
[01:50] <ubotu> splinter: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[01:50] <IdleOne> !ops | splinter
[01:50] <vladi_> TaBo: i don't believe you will find software that supports both your card and the effects of compiz-fusion or beryl
[01:50] <mahone> Pici: No, I have only the executable 'compiz'
[01:50] <Mez> !cs kb splinter
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cs kb splinter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <vladi_> Pici: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[01:51] <smmagic> How do I check if I have direct rendering enabled?
[01:51] <TaBo> =\ thank's anyway vladi
[01:51] <Amaranth> ack
[01:51] <Pici> vladi_: Dont tell me, I'm already running ti
[01:51] <Amaranth> stupid script
[01:51] <mahone> But at the beginning it worked. The I activated the restricted ATI drivers, they didn't work, I deactivated them, and compiz stopped working
[01:51] <Pici> mahone: Where did you get it?
[01:51] <vladi_> TaBo you can try it anyway...maybe it will work
[01:51] <mahone> Pici: Get what?
[01:51] <vladi_> Pici: what... the compiz fusion?
[01:51] <Pici> vladi_: I'm not talking to you.
[01:52] <vladi_> oh
[01:52] <vladi_> ok
[01:52] <vladi_> sry
[01:52] <Pici> mahone: Compiz.  There is a difference between compiz in the feisty repos and compiz-fusion
[01:52] <TaBo> vladi_ , it does'nt work
[01:52] <TaBo> i tryed
[01:52] <IdleOne> Pici: good morning!
[01:52] <The-Compiler> I can't access my sd-card, i'll get a "mount: /dev/sde1: can't read superblock". But with the camera i still can take photos. fdisk -l: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/120763/ (2nd "code")
[01:52] <Pici> IdleOne: :D
[01:53] <mahone> Pici: I got it installed by default with Ubuntu 7.04
[01:53] <smmagic> Is it possible to get a resolution that is not supported?
[01:53] <marcus> no server can't bind to any port (mysql, exim, etc).  anyone any idea why that could be?
[01:53] <The-Compiler> The output of dosfsck: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15874/
[01:53] <SleepyHare> Hello, my Feisty have "lost" all my external usb-drives, is there a way to recover them? E.g. there was an entry /dev/scd0 for my external dvd, and now it`s gone, replugging does no effect. Neither does restarting helps.
[01:53] <SleepyHare> -s
[01:53] <seanm1> waltzinalong did u see my reply or private message?
[01:54] <The-Compiler> SleepyHare: Please give us the outputs of "sudo fdisk -l", and "mount" in a terminal (please paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/)
[01:54] <seanm1> hello need help installing vmware tools - keep getting a previous install detected, get an errot when runnng uninstall
[01:55] <The-Compiler> seanm1: I think the exact error message would be helpful.
[01:55] <vladi_> TaBo if you want fancy visual effects you'll have to get a better graphic card...
[01:55] <stefg> seanm1: sudo rm -rf /etc/vmware
[01:55] <vladi_> TaBo: that's kind of logic
[01:55] <kde-devel_iup_is> #kopete
[01:56] <seanm1> a previous installation of vmware has been detected
[01:56] <rasputnik> doing some really basic shell scripting - how do I check if a variable has been set?
[01:56] <WaltzingAlong> seanm1: need to be registered to send private messages
[01:56] <stefg> seanm1: yeah.. because there's still the conf in /etc. get rid of it, then it'll run
[01:56] <seanm1> i will try that
[01:56] <seanm1> thanks
[01:56] <WaltzingAlong> seanm1: something like /etc/vmware
[01:56] <joar> rasputnik: if the variable contains any data... you could do a check against that....
[01:57] <SleepyHare> The-Compiler, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40366/
[01:57] <rasputnik> joar: how though?
[01:57] <joar> rasputnik: if you know what values the variable might contain, you could do something like if [ variable = something ]  ; then
[01:58] <The-Compiler> SleepyHare: Oops, i forget "lsusb", sorry
[01:58] <joar> that is [ $variable = something ] 
[01:58] <Pici> rasputnik: if you're just debugging, you can just echo $var
[01:58] <mahone> Pici: I got it installed by default with Ubuntu 7.04
[01:58] <rasputnik> Pici: no, I need to check an argument was passed or exit
[01:59] <SleepyHare> The-Compiler, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40367/
[01:59] <DoYouKnow> how do I prevent all of my parent firefoxes from closing when I close a child firefox?
[01:59] <casperin> Hello guys.. can you help me install a Realtek sound card? Or just point me to a place where I can get the driver :)
[01:59] <joar> rasputnik: then you can do a if [ $variable = '' ]  ; (then the variable is empty
[01:59] <Pici> !effects | mahone :)
[01:59] <ubotu> mahone :): For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[01:59] <The-Compiler> SleepyHare: Do you see the card reader?
[02:00] <joar> raputnik: I would test that... just wrote something from the top of my head
[02:00] <rasputnik> joar: if it's not set at all, that doesn't work
[02:00] <mahone> OK, sorry and thanks for the advice
[02:00] <rasputnik> don't worry, I'll crib from /etc/init.d
[02:01] <Wips> Is there a command to list the current partitions with information about them in a list?
[02:01] <DoYouKnow> I am using avant to launch the parent firefox
[02:01] <The-Compiler> Wips: sudo fdisk -l
[02:01] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i "unrar" some thing
[02:01] <SleepyHare> The-Compiler, Yes, just fine... It`s actually inside my laptop, so it is somehow connected, but none of the external (connected via usb-ports) drives show up.
[02:03] <The-Compiler> SleepyHare: The reader is internally connected via usb, too. So for me it seems as a hardware problem of your usb-ports
[02:03] <tvisto> hey guys, anyone can tell me how i can make programs launch on startup? liek skype i have to launch manually each time.
[02:04] <WaltzingAlong> !startup
[02:04] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[02:04] <tvisto> thanks guys!
[02:04] <Cyber_Stalker> !rar
[02:04] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:05] <krakatoa> #ubuntu-games
[02:06] <SleepyHare> The-Compiler, I`ve plugged in a usb-mouse and it works...
[02:06] <The-Compiler> but the devices don't work?
[02:06] <SleepyHare> I`ll try the same port
[02:07] <krakatoa> hola
[02:07] <krakatoa> algun espaol?
[02:07] <Pici> !es | krakatoa
[02:07] <ubotu> krakatoa: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:08] <kondor101> i am using fiesty  will my fstab be in etc/fstab
[02:08] <kondor101> ?
[02:08] <WaltzingAlong> kondor101: yes /etc/fstab
[02:09] <kondor101> k thanks
[02:09] <SleepyHare> The-Compiler, no luck here. Mouse works fine, but the dvd-drive in the same port doesn`t.
[02:09] <The-Compiler> SleepyHare: Then I have no more ideas....
[02:09] <SleepyHare> The-Compiler, I thought about the external enclosure failure, but two of them failing at the same time is quite improbable...
[02:11] <The-Compiler> Or.. Maybe it could help me, if you give me the output of "dmesg" after pluging the device in.
[02:11] <soulfreshner> is there a package that can be considered a minimal version of ubuntu-desktop, basically with the gnome desktop and all the system software, but *without* the extra application software
[02:11] <soulfreshner> I don't like many of the default applications - and it's a mission to uninstall them all :(
[02:12] <WaltzingAlong> soulfreshner: then you do not want meta package ubuntu-desktop, but perhaps want pieces of gnome
[02:12] <WaltzingAlong> !info ubuntu-desktop
[02:12] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.43 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[02:13] <The-Compiler> soulfreshner: gnome-core
[02:13] <SleepyHare> The-Compiler, this is getting somewhere... I`ve copied the interesting part: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40370/
[02:13] <soulfreshner> WaltzingAlong, yep - that's right, but I don't know what all the systems packages are - synaptic, networking, nautilus should get installed... is that included in gnome-core?
[02:14] <The-Compiler> SleepyHare: No ideas... Maybe some other has
[02:14] <WaltzingAlong> soulfreshner: just install the ones you want, the prereqs get pulled in
[02:14] <soulfreshner> ta WaltzingAlong
[02:15] <SleepyHare> The-Compiler, thanks for your help! I`ll try googling now, to see where id all leads...
[02:16] <AL3X-admin> Hi everyone :) How are you? Could somebody help me with "dhclient" ? I want to request new IP from the DHCP...
[02:16] <WaltzingAlong> AL3X-admin: sure sudo dhclient3 eth0
[02:17] <AL3X-admin> I tried this :( but I get my old IP :(
[02:17] <AL3X-admin> and I want a new public IP
[02:17] <hjmills> AL3X-admin, what ip do you get at the moment?
[02:17] <WaltzingAlong> AL3X-admin: the dhcp determines which address you get. perhaps you could change your mac to trick the dhcp into giving you a new one
[02:17] <The-Compiler> AL3X-admin: Maybe it would be simpler if you restart your router
[02:18] <AL3X-admin> I have a modem (Motorola B5100E)
[02:18] <AL3X-admin> I tried ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 but .... :(
[02:19] <AL3X-admin> I also tried dhclient --renew
[02:19] <WaltzingAlong> AL3X-admin: the dhcp server keeps track of which mac gets which ip address
[02:19] <drew> compiz still doesn't work in new ubuntu =[
[02:19] <WaltzingAlong> works here
[02:19] <AL3X-admin> Look, I made a program for changing the IP in windows. Its a simple bat file. If i post here the code (5 lines) could you look at it ?
[02:20] <WaltzingAlong> AL3X-admin: so you could change the reported mac of your ethernet card so the dhcp server sees a new device, giving a new address, or you could reconfigure the dhcp server
[02:20] <WaltzingAlong> !paste | AL3X-admin
[02:20] <ubotu> AL3X-admin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:20] <AL3X-admin> ok
[02:20] <AL3X-admin> I will paste it there :)
[02:22] <kondor101> i have,,, /dev/sda1	/nas2	ext3	defaults	0	0 in my fstab,  it worked when i mounted it first time, but rebooted and now i can not see it
[02:23] <kondor101> oh hang on, i found it, its in nas2 in my filesystem  (do not laugh)
[02:24] <AL3X-admin> Here is the code
[02:24] <AL3X-admin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40371/
[02:25] <heguru> do you need a specific IP via dhclient?
[02:25] <heguru> AL3X-admin: ^^
[02:25] <Bo^Dick> hi
[02:25] <AL3X-admin> :). Could someone "translate" this code into bash ? (or similar)
[02:25] <Bo^Dick> i need semiproffessional help here
[02:26] <Bo^Dick> i've reinstalled windows and my grub bootloader is gone
[02:26] <Bo^Dick> but this isn't all to it
[02:26] <Bo^Dick> my /boot/grub/ directory does no longer exist in ubuntu
[02:27] <kondor101> I want to copy my partition to my new hard drive, which i have just mounted fine, any tips?
[02:27] <IdleOne> !fixgrub | Bo^Dick
[02:27] <ubotu> Bo^Dick: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:28] <AL3X-admin> WaltzingAlong: Here you have the code http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40371/   :)
[02:28] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[02:28] <Bo^Dick> i've installed grub successfully before but know it doesn't work
[02:28] <pike_> kondor101: dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 or whatever maybe
[02:28] <Bo^Dick> the partition manager in the ubuntu installer crashes too
[02:28] <IdleOne> Bo^Dick: take a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:29] <v3ctor> Bo^Dick: windows install destroys grub
[02:29] <seanm1> Thanks to all fro helping me get VMware tools installed - UBUNTU rocks !!
[02:29] <Bo^Dick> IdleOne: doesn't that link require that /boot/grub/state1 exists?
[02:29] <Bo^Dick> v3ctor: no news to me
[02:29] <kondor101> pike, thanks, its sda1  for the new drive, i am guessing hda1 is going to be my old one
[02:29] <Bo^Dick> v3ctor: i've installed grub before
[02:29] <WaltzingAlong> AL3X-admin: yes i have seen that.
[02:30] <Bo^Dick> no sda's exist in my /dev/
[02:30] <AL3X-admin> aa, ouch sorry :( :$
[02:30] <Bo^Dick> my theory is that these problems has occured after my bios update
[02:30] <AL3X-admin> What do you think? Is there any posibility to be "translated" ?
[02:30] <WaltzingAlong> AL3X-admin: you could look at /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases  perhaps as it stores the leases from dhcp servers
[02:31] <kondor101> pike you still around?
[02:31] <Bo^Dick> when i type find /boot/grub/state1 in the grub prompt it says "file not found"
[02:32] <Bo^Dick> is this serious?
[02:32] <AL3X-admin> and then ?
[02:32] <AL3X-admin> If I change the MAC I loose my conexion :( . Why ?
[02:32] <kondor101> my old drive is sdb1 (according to fdisk -l) my new one is sda1  so,  to copy the partition i would do .....  dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1  ...  correct?
[02:33] <kondor101> oh no i got it wrong
[02:33] <chickenFuego> Hello, can someone tell me if the packages using java are compiled with java-sun or gcj?
[02:33] <Bo^Dick> omg
[02:33] <chickenFuego> Hello, can someone tell me if the packages using java are compiled with java-sun or gcj in ubuntu/debian?
[02:33] <kondor101> my old drive is sdb1 (according to fdisk -l) my new one is sda1  so,  to copy the partition i would do .....  dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sda1  ...  thats right this time i think?
[02:33] <IdleOne> !java | chickenFuego
[02:33] <ubotu> chickenFuego: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:34] <WaltzingAlong> AL3X-admin: you can get good at putting several commands together. command1 && command2            so command2 runs upon successful (no error) completion of command1
[02:34] <nrdb> kondor101: looks right to me if both drives are the same size.
[02:35] <kondor101> nrdb,  i just realised the same,  its going from a 15gb to a 80gb so I do not think dd will do it :(
[02:35] <jusama14> Hey I just installed ubuntu 7.10, But synaptic won't let me install openchrome drivers for via chipsets
[02:36] <nrdb> kondor101: I don't ether, you could mount and do a 'cp'
[02:36] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | jusama14
[02:36] <ubotu> jusama14: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[02:36] <AL3X-admin> WaltzingAlong: Ok ^^, but... whitch commands should I put ? :S
[02:36] <shriphani> Is this the right place to ask abou the ubuntu wiki ?
[02:36] <shriphani> I mean about wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:37] <WaltzingAlong> AL3X-admin: what happens when you empty the leases file? does the server give the same address or not when running dhclient ?
[02:37] <IdleOne> shriphani: ask first then we will shoot you if this is he wrong place :)
[02:37] <kondor101> nrdb , it is mounted  so to copy every thing (except nas2 which is the name of my new drive) into nas2 i do?
[02:38] <jrib> shriphani: depends on the question
[02:38] <nrdb> kondor101: it would be easier to boot from a LiveCD, then do the copy
[02:38] <AL3X-admin> I dont know :S. I never tried it... I'll try it now :) give me 1 min
[02:38] <AL3X-admin> What should I do ?
[02:38] <shriphani> IdleOne, I want to make a wiki page of my own, (I belong to the AP loco team). One where I can put up all my scripts. I always am shot a message that my changes to my own wiki will be reported to some individuals whose names I can't remember. Why is this so ?
[02:39] <AL3X-admin> empty the lease file and type "dhclient" (sudo) ??
[02:39] <kondor101> nrdb thanks :)  good idea as it would stop it mounting inside
[02:39] <biotrox> hello
[02:39] <tvisto> hi
[02:39] <heguru> kondor101: if you just want to clone your hard disk, use something like http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[02:39] <biotrox> i have a problem
[02:39] <heguru> kondor101: download it and run Partimage
[02:39] <WaltzingAlong> !cloning
[02:39] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[02:39] <biotrox> i installed ubuntu on my laptop
[02:39] <biotrox> it started alright
[02:40] <biotrox> but too long to start
[02:40] <shriphani> IdleOne, is it illegal to have my own wiki page ?
[02:40] <tvisto> i installed Ubuntu on a laptop today too :P
[02:40] <IdleOne> shriphani: this wiki page is part of the Loo team page? if so your edits will be reported to the admin of the main page
[02:40] <biotrox> to start my laptop with ubuntu took about 10 minutes
[02:40] <heguru> shriphani: no its not, just goto launchpad.net and register
[02:40] <stefg> !boot | biotrox
[02:40] <ubotu> biotrox: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:40] <lucky_lucas> hi, anyone uses the cli here ?
[02:40] <inflex> does Ubuntu have a command line 'hybernate' or 'freeze' sort of state?
[02:40] <shriphani> heguru, I did that.
[02:40] <inflex> (where I can power off the PC)
[02:40] <heguru> shriphani: then goto wiki.ubuntu.com and login using that account
[02:40] <IdleOne> shriphani: I dont think so unless you are providing scripts that are illegal
[02:40] <stefg> biotrox, gah that was the wrong factoid
[02:40] <shriphani> IdleOne, it is not a part of any team. scripts are legal (to help with translations)
[02:41] <stefg> !install | biotrox
[02:41] <ubotu> biotrox: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:41] <IdleOne> shriphani: follow heguru advice
[02:41] <inflex> "software suspend" ?
[02:41] <lucky_lucas> Why the completion in bash when I type cd $HO <TAB> replaces $HOME by \$HOME
[02:41] <AJ--> guys any gui base ftp client for ubuntu?
[02:41] <WaltzingAlong> lucky_lucas: to escape special character #
[02:41] <stefg> !ftp
[02:41] <IdleOne> !ftp | AJ--
[02:41] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[02:41] <ubotu> AJ--: please see above
[02:42] <nrdb_> kondor101: lost the conntection for a while.
[02:42] <heguru> shriphani: by default it will create your wiki page using your registered name, if you want your wiki page to have a different title, goto your account settings in launchpad (click at your name on the upper right corner) and change the Wiki Name
[02:42] <shriphani> ok.
[02:42] <tvisto> Can Solidworks (CAD/CAM) software run on Ubuntu? I mean I know it can with WINE but how good? because everyone online says it runs really bad.
[02:42] <lucky_lucas> WaltzingAlong: Yes but if I want to enter the folder pointed by the variables so I can't use the completion
[02:42] <AL3X-admin> WaltzingAlong: Where is the lease file? :(
[02:43] <WaltzingAlong> !info filezille | AJ--
[02:43] <ubotu> aj--: Package filezille does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:43] <WaltzingAlong> AL3X-admin: you could look at /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases
[02:43] <tvisto> Or is there a powerfull CAD/CAM software because I haven't found for Ubuntu
[02:43] <WaltzingAlong> !info filezilla | AJ--
[02:43] <ubotu> aj--: filezilla: Port of the famous Win32 graphical FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0~beta7-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 763 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[02:43] <WaltzingAlong> !info qcad | tvisto
[02:43] <ubotu> tvisto: qcad: A professional CAD System. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.5.0-1-2 (feisty), package size 2950 kB, installed size 12596 kB
[02:43] <heguru> tvisto: Pro/ENGINEER if you have lots of money
[02:44] <kondor101> nrdb  It makes sense, to do it from live,  to mount the new drive will i use something like my fstab line i used to mount it?
[02:44] <tvisto> Pro engineer can run on Ubuntu?
[02:44] <lucky_lucas> WaltzingAlong:  Is there a way to get completion for such variables ?
[02:44] <heguru> tvisto: yes it can
[02:44] <tvisto> What about SolidWorks?
[02:44] <biotrox> anybody can help me..?
[02:44] <heguru> tvisto: don't know
[02:44] <WaltzingAlong> lucky_lucas: dnk
[02:44] <biotrox> can't work if my ubuntu doesn't work on my laptop
[02:44] <biotrox> :(
[02:45] <tvisto> qcad is really bad: so bad so bad :(
[02:45] <lucky_lucas> WaltzingAlong: ok
[02:45] <hinogi> i'm still struggling to get it to work properly on my tablet ^^
[02:45] <WaltzingAlong> tvisto: there are others. osalt.com
[02:45] <lucky_lucas> WaltzingAlong: thanks anyway
[02:45] <nrdb_> kondor101: I generally make a couple of directories in '/tmp' and mount them there with a mount command like "sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /tmp/sda1'
[02:45] <tvisto> Thanks guys: Heguru, Waltzingalong, ubotu - hopefully it helps!
[02:46] <biotrox> ubuntu on laptop
[02:46] <biotrox> how to make it work..?
[02:46] <biotrox> please help
[02:46] <biotrox> oiiii
[02:46] <biotrox> need help
[02:46] <biotrox> :(
[02:46] <IdleOne> !enter
[02:46] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:46] <heguru> biotrox: what is your problem? and don't flood the channel!
[02:46] <WaltzingAlong> !install | biotrox
[02:46] <ubotu> biotrox: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:47] <heguru> biotrox: What is the problem with ubuntu on your laptop?
[02:47] <biotrox> heguru: i install the ubuntu on my laptop it succeeded
[02:47] <WaltzingAlong> running on all the laptops i have managed
[02:47] <biotrox> heguru: but it won't start as fast as i hope it will be
[02:47] <nrdb_> biotrox: so did I
[02:47] <biotrox> heguru: too long to get started
[02:47] <heguru> biotrox: how long?
[02:47] <skunkworks> anyone seen this behavior on gutsy? http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Oddvideo.png
[02:47] <kondor101> ok nrdb,  so i would do something like mkdir /tmp/sdb1  and mkdir /tmp/sda1  and then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /tmp/sdb1 and sudo mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/sda1
[02:47] <biotrox> heguur: about 10 minutes
[02:48] <AL3X-admin> WaltzingAlong: Nop... nothing...still the same ip  :(
[02:48] <biotrox> heguru: about 10 minutes
[02:48] <skunkworks> I have seen it with 2 different video cards.
[02:48] <skunkworks> (2 different systems)
[02:48] <nrdb_> kondor101: yes!  don't forget the '-t auto' I don't think mount will work without it.
[02:48] <heguru> biotrox: when ubuntu is booting, press Ctrl+Alt+F8 to see what is taking all this time
[02:48] <biotrox> ooo oke
[02:49] <biotrox> and then..? what should i pay attention to?
[02:49] <kondor101> ok will pen and paper the -t auto down as i know i am like a fish for memory
[02:49] <kondor101> thanks nrdb
[02:49] <WaltzingAlong> AL3X-admin: so either reconfigure your dhcp server or find the way to change your card's reported mac, update the address, change it back
[02:49] <heguru> biotrox: well you will see a screen which will show information as the software is being loaded, just note the line that takes longest
[02:49] <AL3X-admin> How can I change the IP ?
[02:49] <biotrox> ooo
[02:50] <biotrox> i know the lines takes the longest one
[02:50] <biotrox> the preliminary keymaps
[02:50] <nrdb_> kondor101: fine, those LiveCD are very usefull.
[02:50] <Ballena> is someone here using Yakuake?
[02:50] <biotrox> it's the  first longest
[02:51] <kondor101> nrdb  sorry, but what is the cp for copying /tmp/sdb1 to /tmp/sda1  (am guessing cp -a /tmp/sdb1 /tmp/sda1)
[02:51] <WaltzingAlong> kondor101: dd if=... of=...
[02:51] <biotrox> heguru: let me try it again.. don't go offline now... wait for me to get back
[02:51] <biotrox> :D
[02:51] <tvisto> Is there anything else not as expensive but as closely good as Pro/ENGINEER for Linux?
[02:51] <kondor101> waltz, wont work, i am going from 15gb partition to 80gb partition
[02:52] <WaltzingAlong> kondor101: oh and you just want to copy the data? perhaps rsync
[02:52] <heguru> kondor101:  you should install partimage and use that
[02:52] <heguru> kondor101: it will work on different sized/different types of hard disks
[02:53] <heguru> kondor101: and it will be much faster than cp
[02:53] <Iron_Blood> Hey all
[02:53] <kondor101> heguru i read partimage website, it said only same size, if you go to a bigger one it will lose the rest of the new one
[02:53] <tbf> a dist upgrade would  require a download  of 1,7 Gig for my box, but i only have about 1 Gig left for this billing period
[02:53] <arajabat> hello, I installed ubuntu in my computer and now I installed amarok to manage my ipod. The amarok can read my musics, but how can I manage the musics, delete, etc?
[02:54] <tbf> so i'd like to download the first half now and the other half next week. is that possible?
[02:54] <aquarius> does anyone  know how to make a call to gtalk users? any help would be appreciated
[02:54] <heguru> heguru: yes, it will copy the partitions, you will be left with free space on the new, you will be able to create partitions on it
[02:54] <heguru> heguru: if you want to use cp, use cp -r -p /tmp/sdb1 /tmp/sda1
[02:54] <nrdb_> kondor101: the '-a' looks correct to me.  I would double check that source/destination carefully.
[02:54] <tvisto> Anyone ever used Compiere or OFBiz? Can u share what you think about it?
[02:54] <heguru> or cp -a :)
[02:55] <WaltzingAlong> !info partimage | kondor101
[02:55] <ubotu> kondor101: partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-17 (feisty), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[02:55] <heguru> tvisto: what do you want to ask
[02:55] <kondor101> nrdb  yes i know they look backwards but thats correct
[02:56] <shriphani> heguru, is there a special editor I can use without having to type "==##==' and the like myself ?
[02:56] <kondor101> ok going live, catch you all in a while
[02:57] <Bo^Dick> when i execute the install icon from the live ubuntu cd i can get into the partition manager
[02:57] <heguru> shriphani: sorry? editor for what?
[02:57] <shriphani> to avoid putting in all the tags myself.
[02:57] <Bo^Dick> nothing appears in the windows where the mount points are supposed to be listed
[02:57] <heguru> shriphani: i am sorry, i don't understand, tags for what?
[02:57] <Bo^Dick> can someone pleeez help me
[02:57] <nrdb_> kondor101: I think the copy would go faster if the two drives where on different cables (i.e. hda1 and hdc1)
[02:58] <shriphani> heguru, formatting. like title 1 etc. I want to avoid typing those myself.
[02:58] <Hojor> 
[02:58] <heguru> shriphani: oh in wiki.ubuntu.com! unfortunately no
[02:58] <Bo^Dick> bomb
[02:58] <tvisto> to henguru: I need to install enterprise solution for small company; but i don't know what to install and Compiere and OfBiz seem to be quite good. But I am not sure because even if its free its still a big step
[02:59] <Hojor> 
[02:59] <Bo^Dick> has anyone experienced that situation where nothing is listed in the partition manager?
[02:59] <heguru> tvisto: I would go for Adempiere (A fork of compiere, and much more active than compiere) you can also consider OpenBravo which started as a web-version of compiere
[03:00] <aquarius> Hojor: there is a chinese channel #ubuntu-cn
[03:00] <heguru> biotrox: did you find what software is delaying the boot?
[03:01] <xload> hello, i've a problem with my ubuntu 7.04 server, my computer reboots after "Starting kernel.." somebody can help me?
[03:01] <biotrox> heguru: the ctrl + alt + f8 didn't work
[03:01] <chickenFuego> Hello, can someone tell me if the packages using java are compiled with java-sun or gcj in ubuntu/debian?
[03:01] <biotrox> heguru: loading.... takes the longest
[03:01] <Hojor> yes I am a chinese
[03:02] <heguru> !cn | Hojor
[03:02] <ubotu> Hojor: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:02] <tvisto> to henguru: But compier seems to have so much documentation and support. Adempiere website is quite naked I'd call it so. Not even able to find pictures and so on. Or am I wrong.
[03:02] <heguru> biotrox: can you press Ctrl+Alt+F8 now (press Ctrl+Alt+F7) to get back here
[03:02] <Hojor> thanks!
[03:03] <heguru> tvisto: Adempiere 100% compiere compatible, it was created to give a boost to compiere development, it has the largest community, all documentation for compiere is applicable to adempiere
[03:03] <biotrox> heguru: now i'm online in ubuntu on my desktop computer, hope that u can teach how to trouble shoot the laptop
[03:03] <biotrox> heguru: it's just showing Starting up... Loading, please wait
[03:04] <heguru> biotrox: well all I can tell you, is when the system is booting press Ctrl+Alt+F8 (keep pressing a few times till you see the text screen)
[03:04] <heguru> biotrox: and find out what line takes the longest
[03:05] <biotrox> heguru: i did that and the result is that the screen goes blanks
[03:05] <WorkingOnWise> what do I need to do to be sure Ubuntu boots properly after I put a partition inbetween 2 existing partitions?
[03:05] <biotrox> oo wait here it comes
[03:05] <xload> :s somebody can help me with my problem?
[03:05] <biotrox> preliminary keymap took longer than i expected
[03:06] <biotrox> heguru: Setting preliminary keymap ...
[03:06] <biotrox> it stuck there
[03:06] <heguru> biotrox: ok wait
[03:06] <karin5482> hello, how i can make script run on startup(boot) ?
[03:07] <biotrox> heguru: now it stucks at 'Preparing restricted drivers ..."
[03:07] <nrdb_> biotrox: you could edit the /boot/grub/menu.list and create anyother entry without the "quiet" and "splash" kernel options.
[03:07] <biotrox> how how..?
[03:08] <heguru> karin5482: you can add it to /etc/init.d/rc.local
[03:08] <biotrox> nrdb. without quiet and splash and it effect will be to what..?
[03:08] <xload> why my ubuntu restats after grub???
[03:08] <heguru> nrdb_: he is already looking at the boot screen
[03:08] <Bo^Dick> i'm still not getting anything listed in the partition manager
[03:08] <Bo^Dick> is it supposed to be like that?
[03:08] <biotrox> heguru: it stucks at Loading hardware drivers now
[03:09] <nrdb_> biotrox: heguru: no need then.
[03:09] <heguru> biotrox: you can add quite to see what you are seeing without pressing Ctrl+Alt+F8
[03:09] <Bo^Dick> can someone help me please?
[03:09] <heguru> biotrox: ok it seems like your machine is slow itsefl
[03:09] <Bo^Dick> sorry for being annoying but i'm really into trouble
[03:09] <novato_br> dudes, what is the channel about script shell programming ?
[03:09] <novato_br> plz
[03:09] <biotrox> so...
[03:09] <heguru> biotrox: what motherboard/processor are you using?
[03:09] <biotrox> don't know
[03:09] <Bo^Dick> i don't get anything listed in the partition manager
[03:09] <Hojor> I am a Chinese
[03:09] <biotrox> i got this laptop from work ex-boss
[03:09] <heguru> !cn | Hojor
[03:09] <ubotu> Hojor: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:10] <chickenFuego> Hello, can someone tell me if the packages using java are compiled with java-sun or gcj in ubuntu/debian?
[03:10] <biotrox> i just know it brand
[03:10] <chickenFuego> is there a rule for that? Or is it package depedant??
[03:10] <nrdb_> Bo^Dick: are you trying to install ?
[03:10] <biotrox> all information just fades because it's an old laptop
[03:10] <novato_br> wow, Hojor
[03:10] <novato_br> hahah
[03:10] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: yes
[03:10] <novato_br> dudes?
[03:10] <novato_br> shell script
[03:10] <novato_br> i need the channel about this
[03:10] <biotrox> !ina
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ina - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <novato_br> anybody knows?
[03:10] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: i'm not getting anything in the list in the partition manager
[03:10] <heguru> biotrox: well if the machine is very old, it will be slow on boot, you might want to use Xubuntu which is a version of ubuntu for low-end machines
[03:10] <Hojor> haha
[03:10] <novato_br> !shell script
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shell script - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <novato_br> !script
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about script - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <novato_br> !bash
[03:11] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:11] <Hojor> sorry
[03:11] <biotrox> but it's not that long
[03:11] <skyrocker> novato try scriptkiddies
[03:11] <tvisto> henguru: Oh so, thanks alot! Really helped out!
[03:11] <biotrox> it had 1.7GHZ processors and 2GB of phisycal mem
[03:11] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: the installer doesn't let me continue since i'm not able to choose a place for /
[03:11] <heguru> novato_br: join #bash
[03:11] <heguru> tvisto: welcome :)
[03:11] <novato_br> thx, heguru
[03:11] <nrdb_> Bo^Dick: can you mount the drive ?
[03:11] <Hojor> This my first use this
[03:11] <abhibera> !scriptkiddies
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scriptkiddies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <heguru> biotrox: thats a decent machine, shouldn't be this slow
[03:11] <biotrox> i run this in amd 1.5GHZ and 512MB and it doesn't have any problem
[03:12] <biotrox> so what the problem then..?
[03:12] <biotrox> :(
[03:12] <chimaera> hi, is there a way to include firefor & thunderbird into session-management?
[03:12] <biotrox> want to run ubuntu on my laptop :((
[03:12] <heguru> biotrox: don't know then sorry
[03:12] <karin5482> i have this script and i use the next line to run it : nohup newsocket.pl &" how can i make this script run on the start(when i makeing restart)
[03:12] <biotrox> !indonesia
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about indonesia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <heguru> chimaera: explain include into session-management?
[03:12] <biotrox> !in
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <rico_> !gutsy
[03:13] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[03:13] <heguru> !id | biotrox
[03:13] <ubotu> biotrox: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[03:13] <bulmer> karin5482: man update-rc.d
[03:13] <rico_> !ph
[03:13] <biotrox> thanks heguru
[03:13] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[03:13] <Evanlec> heguru havent u been on here a little too long today? lol
[03:14] <chimaera> heguru: other apps i had open when i shut down ubuntu are being started automagically when i restart, firefox and thunderbird are not. i might simply autostart them, but i wonder why "session-management" excludes them.
[03:14] <heguru> Evanlec: I have a week off :D, you'll be seeing me here alot ;)
[03:14] <Evanlec> heguru, lol, you were on here when i went bed
[03:14] <heguru> chimaera: System -> Preferences -> Sessions and click add
[03:14] <Hojor> Oh my god my English is very poor! Sorry!
[03:14] <Bo^Dick> if nothing is listed in the partition manager for the ubuntu installer, is all ok then?
[03:14] <Cyrus25801> just installed ubuntu 7.04 on the same HDD as windows XP. but the bootloader doesn't seem to work, because it doesn't give me options it only boots into XP.can someone pls help me
[03:14] <heguru> chimaera: add one entry for Firefox and another for thunderbird
[03:15] <chimaera> heguru: stupid me. thanks.
[03:15] <heguru> chimaera: welcome :)
[03:15] <nrdb_> Cyrus25801: which did you do first ?
[03:15] <Hojor> ?
[03:15] <Bo^Dick> i'm not allowed to continue if i can't specify the root directory in the partition guide
[03:15] <heguru> Evanlec: lol, I will be here for another 8 hours :P, maybe I am just a very neat bash script :P
[03:15] <Evanlec> heguru, yea haha
[03:16] <Cyrus25801> nrdb_: i first installed XP then ubunt.i have doen it before like that and it did work.
[03:16] <heguru> Hojor: this is English only channel, join the Chinese channel
[03:16] <Cyrus25801> nrdb_: can u help me edit the boot loader
[03:17] <nrdb_> Cyrus25801: no idea, maybe you could run grub again to reinstall the bootloader.
[03:17] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: is it a problem if nothing is listed in the partition manager?
[03:17] <Cyrus25801> nrdb_: how do i run grub
[03:17] <Hojor> wow  sorry! I know
[03:17] <chimaera> heguru: one thing, though, with this dialog i autostart them.  other apps beeing "restored" on relog aren't listed there (e.g. virtualbox, pidgin, terminal..). where is teh difference?
[03:17] <nrdb_> Bo^Dick: Don't wory about the install just for now, can the drive you want to install to be mounted.
[03:17] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: don't know
[03:18] <heguru> chimaera: well those are saved in your session, click at the Session Options tab
[03:18] <Cyrus25801> nrdb_: k, thanx
[03:18] <nrdb_> Bo^Dick: is your drive going to be only for Ubuntu ?
[03:18] <Cyrus25801> can someone help me with grub
[03:18] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: i wanna have dual boot
[03:18] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: i already have an ext3 partition dedicated for the ubuntu
[03:18] <heguru> chimaera: there is a checkbox, if you check it, it will remember things when you logout, (I don't recommend!, if you have a bad application that hangs gnome, it will do that everytime you login!)
[03:19] <shriphani> heguru, doesn't launchpad use darcs ?
[03:19] <chimaera> heguru: which brings me back to my original question: why is ff and thunderbird excluded from the "autmatically remember.." function?
[03:19] <xload> somebody knwos why muy ubuntu reboots after grub????
[03:19] <shriphani> If it doesn't, I'll ask folks to just copy the text off the webpage.
[03:19] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: but the list of partition in the ubuntu installer partition manager is now empty
[03:20] <heguru> shriphani: not sure, it does use some revision control
[03:20] <heguru> chimaera: is that checkbox checked?
[03:20] <chimaera> heguru:  yes, it is by default.
[03:21] <heguru> chimaera: hm, I don't know why specifically firefox and thunderbird are not save as part of the session, can't seem to find any bug report as well
[03:22] <jaybuntu> good morning!
[03:22] <heguru> chimaera: as a work around you can add firefox and thunderbird if you want, I will check it out on my system in a while
[03:22] <gandhijee> hey, is there a package to install WebPam for ubuntu?
[03:22] <Bo^Dick> what's the name of the partition manager in the ubuntu installer?
[03:22] <chimaera> heguru: same here. strange enough.
[03:22] <jaybuntu> what causes the sreensaver to freeze ubuntu?
[03:23] <heguru> jaybuntu: is it freezing immediately after the screensaver starts? or after like 15-30 mins?
[03:23] <chimaera> heguru: well, autostarting is no problem, just wanted to know if there'S any reason for the behaviour shown.
[03:23] <jaybuntu> a minute or less>>>>>>>>>>>
[03:23] <WorkingOnWise> tst
[03:24] <Bo^Dick> does anyone know the name of the partition manager in the ubuntu installer?
[03:24] <heguru> chimaera: I will look into it, first thing that comes to my mind is the way firefox and thunderbird manage their session (using profiles and not allowing multiple firefox/thunderbird instances) might be the issue
[03:25] <heguru> jaybuntu: well if it was more, I would've suggested looking into standby settings
[03:25] <jaybuntu> heguru,freezes within a minute>>>>
[03:25] <chimaera> heguru: i thought about that as well. anway, thanks.
[03:25] <heguru> chimaera: welcome :)
[03:25] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: so you allready have a windows install on the drive ?
[03:25] <nrdb__> Cyrus25801: Boot from the LiveCD, mount the drive, cd to the /boot/grub directory and run "grub --config-file=[full path to menu.list] "
[03:26] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: yes
[03:26] <jaybuntu> heguru:i'll check anyways.
[03:26] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: got no idea, I would try a reboot and start again (if you haven't allready).
[03:26] <Bo^Dick> omg
[03:27] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: don't know if it has any chance of helping.  it just that if the drive is working I don't know what else to try.
[03:28] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: do you know the name of the partition manager inte the ubuntu installer?
[03:28] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: NO! have you got the drive mounted ?
[03:29] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: i can see the file system yes
[03:29] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: i tried to make a document in my Desktop folder and it worked
[03:30] <Bo^Dick> something exists apparently
[03:30] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: maybe the partition manager can't get access to /dev/hda or whatever the drive is.
[03:30] <snooplsm> is there a proper name for a 25pin serial male that converts to an ethernet input?
[03:30] <snooplsm> for which only 9 pins exist
[03:30] <Bo^Dick> the file /dev/hda exists
[03:31] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: try quiting the installer, and unmount the drive and restart the installer.
[03:31] <Bo^Dick> this has to be a bug in the partition manager
[03:31] <Bo^Dick> do i type unmount /dev/hda/ then?
[03:32] <Bo^Dick> just wanna make sure since i gotta reboot first
[03:33] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: if you have an icon for the drive on the Desktop you can unmount with that.  "right click" on the icon once, and select "unmount volume"
[03:33] <Pitel> can someone help with tv out from my intel 945 card? i use gutsy rc, and xrandr says tv disconnected, but my tv is connected.
[03:33] <AJ--> i set /var/name/ <-- my apache doc directory  how can i give permission to user1 to have permession on this folder???
[03:33] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: i'm afraid i've only got an icon with the label "install" on my live cd desktop
[03:34] <heguru> AJ--: chown user1 /var/name (will make the user owner of the folder with permissions)
[03:34] <AJ--> k ill try that heguro.. tnx a lot
[03:35] <Jork> Hello.Eneybody know for if exists program for creating disk labels?
[03:35] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: have you have accessed the HDD while running the LiveCD ?
[03:35] <AJ--> heguru: it works!!! tnx a lot pal :D
[03:36] <Bo^Dick> nrdb_: i think so since i was able to write a file to my Desktop folder
[03:36] <heguru> Jork: there are three tools to make volume labels: mke2fs, tune2fs and e2label
[03:36] <heguru> AJ--: welcome :)
[03:36] <Ahadiel> Bo^Dick, Writing a file to your desktop on a liveCD doesn't mean you accessed the harddrive.
[03:36] <Bo^Dick> Ahadiel: uh, m'kay
 Can I install those tools from terminal?
[03:37] <heguru> Jork: tune2fs is installed
[03:37] <Bo^Dick> Ahadiel: where did the file be located then if not on any hd?
[03:37] <heguru> Jork: just type: sudo tune2fs -L YOURLABEL /dev/sda
[03:37] <Ahadiel> Bo^Dick, In the tempfs that the lvieCD made.
[03:37] <Bo^Dick> Ahadiel: ok
[03:38] <Ahadiel> Bo^Dick, Think of it as in ram, and it disappears once you exit the liveCD.
[03:38] <Bo^Dick> Ahadiel: ok
 I would like to create sticker for cd disk?
[03:38] <Sullin> .Mpeg
[03:38] <someguy> hello everyone
[03:38] <Sullin> Forward Slash
[03:38] <heguru> Jork: ah! sorry, that software is for volume labels! not stickers of any sort :)
[03:38] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: I am not sure what is going on, try a reboot and see if the problem still happens.
[03:39] <Bo^Dick> nrdb__: tried that already
[03:39] <someguy> anyone using any wireless presentation remotes for Ubuntu and OOo?
[03:39] <Bo^Dick> nrdb__: still empty list in partition manager
[03:39] <Sullin> .Jpeg
[03:39] <someguy> mcjustice >> bringin' justice Ubuntu style! Yo!
[03:39] <McJustice> ;)
[03:40] <someguy> lol
[03:40] <Bo^Dick> this bug in the partition manager is _really_ annoying
[03:40] <stiev3> where should I unzip third party gedit plugins to?
[03:40] <Bo^Dick> it inhibits the opportunity to reinstall linux
[03:40] <someguy> bugs are annoying by definition
[03:40] <rohan> how is dlink wireless card support in ubuntu ?
[03:40] <Bo^Dick> this bug is particularly mean
[03:40] <someguy> yeah
[03:40] <someguy> i hear u
[03:40] <heguru> stiev3: /usr/share/gedit-2/plugins
 Is there any program for making cd-stickers?
[03:40] <someguy> anyone using any wireless presentation remotes for Ubuntu and OOo?
[03:41] <Bo^Dick> could my updated bios as done something stupid?
[03:41] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: which version are you trying to install ?
[03:41] <Bo^Dick> nrdb__: ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn desktop i386 32-bit version
[03:41] <heguru> Jork: Sorry don't know, check out scribus maybe
[03:41] <Bo^Dick> i've done it before and i've never seen an empty list in the partition manager
[03:42] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: maybe the 7.10 installer will work better with you setup.
[03:42] <Bo^Dick> tried to google around about this too and found nothing
[03:42] <Bo^Dick> nrdb__: 7.10 is gutsy isn't it?
[03:43] <jkp> question: how can i configure a shared directory so that anything copied into it would take the group of the parent directory? and ideally, the permissions (im aware of umask but not sure how it applies here)
[03:43] <nrdb__> Bo^Dick: yep, beta out now, 7.10 released in 6 days.
[03:43] <Bo^Dick> thanks for all support
[03:43] <Bo^Dick> gonna try out these things, bbl
[03:44] <Tritonio> nrdb__, I think that I had the same problem with Bo^Dick
[03:45] <nrdb__> Tritonio: problem ?
[03:45] <Tritonio> nrdb__, and it was because of a damaged partition table. I had two overlapping partitions. I got them after trying to install windows in a spall parition.
[03:45] <julle> hi, can someone post me a directlink to download nvidia driver, i cant get into X anymore, since i did a apt-get upgrade?
[03:45] <WuPeak> hi there. i've a small question. 6 days to go to ubuntu 7.10. is it easy to update my 7.04 to 7.10?
[03:46] <nrdb__> Tritonio: so the windows install screwed the partition table on you ?
[03:46] <heguru> WuPeak: yes it is, using update-manager
[03:46] <Kalumba> julle: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[03:46] <pike_> julle: apt-get install links2   then do links2 -g     hit g key and enter url
[03:46] <Tritonio> nrdb__, i think so. it was ok before them. I tryied to install them. They said that the partition had errors that couldn't be fixed.
[03:47] <Tritonio> nrdb__, and after that gparted didn't show my partitions. fdisk did though.
[03:47] <aloui> gyiyvuok
[03:47] <nrdb__> Tritonio: I wish Bo^Dick was still here. to here that.
[03:47] <WuPeak> heguru: thx. i'll do so. can't wait for it :D
[03:48] <WuPeak> thx
[03:48] <Ballena> what is the command for deleting a directory? rm wont work :/
[03:48] <heguru> WuPeak: welcome :)
[03:48] <jkp> Ballena: rmdir
[03:48] <Pici> Ballena: rm -r /path/to/dir
[03:48] <jkp> Ballena: or rm -rf
[03:48] <Tritonio> nrdb__, then I used a tool called TestDisk to fix them. The tool showed two overlapping paritions. The swap parition and the /home. I tryid to fix them. But i simply completelly destroyed everything... :-)
[03:48] <rico_> hey guys, how should I go about splitting off my partition into two (into / and /home)?
[03:48] <Ballena> jkp: what does the -f do?
[03:49] <heguru> Ballena: force
[03:49] <jkp> Ballena: force
[03:49] <jkp> it wont ask you for every file if you want to delete it
[03:49] <Ballena> ok
[03:49] <jkp> be careful!!!!
[03:49] <Ballena> ok ;-)
[03:50] <jkp> Ballena: seriously, its a dangerous command, there is no going back
[03:50] <nrdb__> Tritonio:  one more windows problem, making Linux look bad.  :(  are well.
[03:50] <jkp> Tritonio: heh :), shit dude
[03:50] <jkp> Tritonio: did you have backups? (i didnt)
[03:51] <jkp> it was years ago now, but i lost all my personal data that i had accumlated up till that point in my life, maybe 10 years!
[03:51] <Tritonio> jkp, i didn't... :-P Bu I was fast enough to kill the computer... ;-) before rm entered my flash drive and the external HD with music etc...
[03:52] <xload> M374n4M3 no he conseguido nada
[03:53] <jkp> Tritonio: heh, yeah it took me a while to realise what was going on, but which time most of it had gone
[03:54] <xload> my ubuntu server just rebbot after grub, somebody can help me?
[03:54] <Innomen> Does ubuntu have a norton ghost equivalent?
[03:54] <heguru> Innomen: partimage
[03:54] <WuPeak> heguru: got an other question. my 7.04 is installed on a asus notebook with an ati x700 grafix chip. it was quite dificult to get this chip running. do i have to reinstall the driver after the update to 7.10?
[03:54] <Innomen> thank you
[03:54] <qiuhou> Hi, I want to record audio output from a player using audacity. Though regardless of which record device I choose in the audacity settings, the recorded stream is silent. Any ideas?
[03:54] <Tritonio> jkp, :-( I know. The funny thing is that after setting up the whole computer again (gedit scipts, firefox plugins, etc) I has to recreate the partition table because of the problem I was discusing with nrdb__ before...
[03:55] <profanephobia> how can I search a torrent site from terminal
[03:55] <heguru> WuPeak: well, if you are using ATI proprietary drivers then you have to recompile them, if you're using the fglrx package from repositories then nothing
[03:56] <heguru> profanephobia: you can use a text based browser. try Lynx
[03:56] <Tritonio> does anybody know what is the -bundle parameter in gcc?
[03:56] <seb__> hi im installing vmware server on 7.04 and i get this message when selecting were to put the manual files The path "/usr/bin/man" exists, but is not a directory
[03:56] <profanephobia> heguru, ty
[03:56] <heaven> how to install wine? i got the .rpm file and it shows as a archive, and umm when i double click it it gives me: "archive type not supported"
[03:56] <tvisto> u don't need rpm
[03:56] <tvisto> u need debian file
[03:56] <heguru> WuPeak: well I should have said it in a different way: If you downloaded the fglrx driver from ATI's website then you will have a prob, else all will be file
[03:57] <heguru> *fine
[03:57] <Tritonio> heaven, why didn't you install it from the repositories?
[03:57] <jkp> Tritonio: i think thats OS X only
[03:57] <jkp> "-bundle Produce a Mach-o bundle format file.  See man ld(1) for more infor- mation.
[03:57] <heguru> heaven: on the terminal type: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:57] <WuPeak> heguru: ok. i'll see what happens. i think i'll have to reinstall my ATI chip.
[03:57] <seb__> hi im installing vmware server on 7.04 and i get this message when selecting were to put the manual files The path "/usr/bin/man" exists, but is not a directory any one know how to fix it?
[03:57] <WuPeak> but some how it'll work
[03:57] <Tritonio> jkp, oh ok thank you. I suspected that. I got accross an arror saying that this is an unknown parameter ehile trying to make luasocket.
[03:58] <heaven> Reading package lists... Done
[03:58] <heaven> Building dependency tree
[03:58] <heaven> Reading state information... Done
[03:58] <heaven> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:58] <heaven> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:58] <heaven> is only available from another source
[03:58] <heaven> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[03:58] <Pici> !paste | heaven
[03:58] <ubotu> heaven: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:58] <heaven> oh sry i forgot
[03:58] <Pici> seb__: /usr/bin/man is where the executable lives
[03:58] <seb__> Pici: then were am i ment to put it im jsut following the defualts
[03:58] <pike_> heaven: most likely you need to enable universe and multivers in synaptic or just add em to sources.list and sudo apt-get update
[03:58] <heguru> heaven: you have to enable universal repositores (System -> Administration -> Software Sources)
[03:59] <jkp> Tritonio: np, what system are you running on?
[03:59] <markvds> hello, i am getting a bios error at startup and i think it may have something to do with the nvidia driver not working. it is something like "powernow-k8 error no psb or acpi_pss found"
[03:59] <heguru> *universe
[03:59] <jkp> odd that it threw that flag in to the mix
[03:59] <Tritonio> jkp, hardware?
[03:59] <AlexC_> Hey there,
[03:59] <Pici> seb__: most manpages are in /usr/share/man/ or documentation in /usr/share/doc/
[03:59] <AlexC_> #ubuntu+1
[03:59] <AlexC_> woops,
[03:59] <seb__> thanks
[04:00] <jkp> Tritonio: software
[04:00] <shriphani> heguru, i am relatively new to coding procedures. putting my code up on launchpad seems to be a hassle. can you tell me where I can start?
[04:00] <jkp> im assuming ubuntu :)
[04:00] <Innomen> will partimage let me image an entire drive instead of just parititons?
[04:00] <Tritonio> ubuntu 7.04
[04:00] <Tritonio> desktop
[04:00] <Pici> !enter
[04:00] <jkp> problem with that build script then maybe
[04:00] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:00] <heguru> shriphani: have you checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnEditing
[04:00] <Tritonio> jkp, what do you mean?
[04:01] <heguru> Innomen: partimage works on partitions AFAIK
[04:01] <pike_> markvds: maybe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/powernowd/+bug/44699
[04:01] <jkp> you were building something? and that flag was in the makefile or something?
[04:01] <Tritonio> jkp, luasocket has a problem with it's makefile?
[04:01] <markvds> thank you i'll have a look
[04:01] <seb__> were is the ubuntu paste bin?
[04:01] <heguru> !pastebin
[04:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:01] <Innomen> heguru: hmm, oky thanks :)
[04:01] <seb__> thanks
[04:02] <chippy> hmm, my sound has stopped. was using xmms, pressed stop, now cannot start says "check soundcard.. etc" in system->sound, none of the tests work, plus i get warning "resource busy or not available" I'm sure a reboot might work, but thats so windows...
[04:02] <someguy> ubotu is very strict on this grammar
[04:02] <someguy> krap
[04:02] <kaminix> How do I remove vorbiscomments from a file?
[04:02] <someguy> lol
[04:02] <markvds> but pike_ i don't even have a laptop and don't want to save energy by scaling my processors frequency, is that only about that?
[04:03] <Tritonio> jkp, maybe it's a problem in the makefile like you said. I tried to compile two different versions of luasocket. The old one had the -bundle thing and the latest didn't create a file for some rieason
[04:03] <heguru> chippy: you can find out which process is consuming /dev/dsp (lsof | grep /dev/dsp) and kill the process
[04:03] <chippy> ok. will do
[04:03] <seb__> after telling vmware server install were to put the document files i get this any idea on how i fix it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40379/
[04:04] <WaltzingAlong> markvds: saving energy sure, but also being quiet too by running low enough it does not require active cooling
[04:04] <kondor102> decided to keep my drives as they are after all lol
[04:04] <karra> could someone help me with install priter?
[04:04] <Innomen> wow this is so not going to work
[04:05] <pike_> markvds: using an amd proc?
[04:05] <markvds> yes
[04:05] <markvds> 3500+ i don't remember what core
[04:05] <heguru> chippy: you should use fuser /dev/dsp instead of lsof
[04:05] <seb__> after telling vmware server install were to put the document files i get this any idea on how i fix it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40379/
[04:05] <kondor102> so,far, I have managed to install, mount, chown and chmod my 2nd hdd, all is working fine.  Any tips on how I create a short cut to my new drive (which is called /nas2)
[04:05] <pike_> markvds: try this may me helpful. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53094
[04:06] <chippy> hmm, lsof | grep /dev/dsp gives no matches - theres a few /dev/snd entries
[04:06] <chippy> ahh me reads up, thanks heguru
[04:06] <pike_> markvds: or just disable in bios  i guess if you dont care about it
[04:06] <Bo^Dick> no partition manager is able to show anything about my partition except the ms windows one
[04:07] <karra> I should install canon LBP 5000, but maybe nobody here cannot help me?
[04:07] <heguru> chippy: well it turns out that ubuntu is using /dev/snd!
[04:07] <markvds> pike_, how might that be called in the bios
[04:07] <seb__> after telling vmware server install were to put the document files i get this any idea on how i fix it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40379/
[04:07] <Cripps> if I have wpa_supplicant, and I'm trying to run it where the APs here have hidden ssids, what would the usual suspects be if my card keeps trying to associate to 00:00:00:00:00:00? (the network is WPA, tkip, and peap with phase2="auth=MSCHAPv2")
[04:07] <heguru> chippy: lsof | grep /dev/snd (final command, promise :P)
[04:07] <chippy> mixeradd
[04:07] <chippy> mixerapp
[04:07] <WaltzingAlong> seb__: yeah i see that. ask google or give more data
[04:07] <Innomen> wow, google tells me there is nothing like ghost for ubuntu
[04:08] <heguru> chippy: killall mixerapp
[04:08] <Cripps> Innomen, g4l
[04:08] <pike_> markvds: dunno never had a fancy proc like that :)
[04:08] <Innomen> Cripps: googleing that
[04:08] <WaltzingAlong> Innomen: interesting. dd
[04:08] <seb__> WaltzingAlong:what other data do u need
[04:08] <markvds> what have you got then pike_?
[04:08] <Innomen> WaltzingAlong: "dd"?
[04:08] <chippy> heguru, well, theres several others that match /dev/snd but mixerapp sounds more sound like ;)
[04:08] <WaltzingAlong> Innomen: man dd
[04:08] <pike_> markvds: old sempron
[04:08] <WaltzingAlong> !info dd | Innomen
[04:08] <ubotu> innomen: Package dd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:09] <markvds> 800MHz?
[04:09] <daftest> hey guys. i found a sudo exploit
[04:09] <WaltzingAlong> daftest: great
[04:09] <Cripps> daftest, what is it?
[04:09] <daftest> just let to run this http://pastebin.com/ddc853e5 <== with a execute in .bashrc
[04:09] <Bo^Dick> i wonder if it was my bios update that made all my linux partition managers to fail to list any device at all
[04:09] <Innomen> WaltzingAlong: ...ok... I still dont understand
[04:09] <Bo^Dick> has anyone ever experienced an empty list in the partition manager?
[04:09] <seb__> WaltzingAlong: what other data do u need because thats all i get in the terminal window
[04:10] <WaltzingAlong> Innomen: what do you want to do with ghost? there is partimage and dd
[04:10] <Innomen> Cripps: where would i aquire this magical ghost for linux for ubuntu?
[04:10] <WaltzingAlong> sorry there are
[04:10] <^brandon^> can someone help me fix a small problem I am having with getting my new install of ubuntu 7.04 to connect to the internet properly?
[04:10] <markvds> i'll try to disable that scaling stuff
[04:10] <Innomen> WaltzingAlong: i want to image this machines hd, which is duel boot, and move it to a smaller drive on my laptop
[04:10] <WaltzingAlong> !cloning | Innomen
[04:10] <ubotu> Innomen: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[04:10] <kondor102> ^brandon^ no idea, what is the problem?
[04:10] <Cripps> Innomen, the thing is, ghost backs up the whole system ... you don't install it.
[04:10] <WaltzingAlong> Innomen: there are ways to do it
[04:11] <mauser> i have a fresh ubuntu 7.04 install and having trouble with installing the Win32::NetAdmin module
[04:11] <manu_hack>  what can I do if my computer does not respond due to running a exhausting program?
[04:11] <Cripps> Innomen, you download the CD, insert it into your CD tray, restart, and then ghost your ubuntu install.
[04:11] <mauser> does Win32::Netadmin works on Linux?
[04:11] <qbert> i just apt-got spidermonkey-bin ( a CL JS interpeter ) , but there is no man page, and their is no binary called spidermonkey-bin , how do I find what the executables name is ?
[04:11] <Innomen> Cripps: that sounds like exactly what i want
[04:11] <qbert> mauser,  im guessing no ...
[04:11] <heaven> ok i added a repository, downloaded and installed throught terminal now how do i run wine?
[04:11] <daftest> Cripps, WaltzingAlong pritty lame hu
[04:11] <Cripps> Innomen, glad I could help )
[04:11] <Innomen> WaltzingAlong: i know a feww, but i'm wanting to learn the open source way :)
[04:12] <Cripps> daftest, hm. I'm still trying to figure out what *exactly* it does ;)
[04:12] <kondor102> ubotu, thats clever i did not know you could do that pkg trick
[04:12] <Innomen> Cripps: where do  aquire ghost for linux?
[04:12] <irish53b> having trouble with hplip, getting error unable to connect to hpiod unable to connect to HPLIP I/O, anyone have any thoughts
[04:12] <Innomen> ...for ubuntu
[04:12] <heguru> Innomen: well its called ghost for unix: http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
[04:12] <daftest> Cripps, it trys to do sudo. ofc it has not a pw untill you do sudo in console
[04:12] <heaven> ok i added a repository, downloaded and installed throught terminal now how do i run wine?
[04:12] <Cripps> Innomen, there should be a download available on sourceforge, else google "g4l +download"
[04:12] <daftest> then it got root
[04:13] <karra> I should install canon LBP 5000 printer, but maybe nobody here cannot help me!?
[04:13] <someoneelse2007> heaven: wine
[04:13] <chippy> heguru, cheers! it turned out to be artsd (the last one on the list)
[04:13] <someoneelse2007> karra: how are you connectingit? usb?
[04:13] <Cripps> hm. interesting
[04:13] <heaven> huh?
[04:13] <MasterShrek> heaven, first you need to type: wineconfig   to configure wine
[04:13] <seb__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260159 can some one pleas tell me how i ment to do the sullution to this problem
[04:13] <heaven> ok
[04:13] <WaltzingAlong> heaven: to run wine, execute the command 'wine'
[04:13] <MasterShrek> heaven, after that u type: wine file.exe
[04:13] <WaltzingAlong> !wine | heaven
[04:13] <ubotu> heaven: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[04:13] <karra> someoneelse2007 yes
[04:14] <heguru> chippy: well so you're not on Windows afterall ;)
[04:14] <Cripps> which are the driver specific settings with wpa_supplicant.conf ?
[04:14] <chippy> :)
[04:14] <WaltzingAlong> karra: after you have the printer connected, supply us with the output of lsusb to pastebin
[04:14] <daftest> Cripps, any exploit virus can write to .bashrc and waits to do real evil until it got root
[04:14] <WaltzingAlong> !paste | karra
[04:14] <ubotu> karra: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:14] <lian> lian
[04:14] <Innomen> Cripps: downloading, thanky :)
[04:15] <seb__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260159 can some one pleas tell me how i ment to do the sullution to this problem
[04:15] <Cripps> daftest, with the increasing use of sudo, that hole should be plugged ... like, yesterday.
[04:15] <Cripps> ;)
[04:15] <Cripps> Innomen, no problem :)
[04:15] <daftest> Cripps, just remove the remember the pw feature
[04:16] <Cripps> hm. How's that done?
[04:16] <heaven> doesn't help
[04:16] <WaltzingAlong> seb__: which system are you using? feisty? you can install vmware server through the canonical repository
[04:16] <manu_hack> even cannot ssh to my machine, properbly need to turn it off, damn
[04:16] <heguru> daftest: thats really stupid, you're removing the passwd feature and running sudo (so it runs without asking the password) and you claim its an exploit!
[04:16] <Innomen> while i wait, diffrent question. Sacred wants the newest direct x when running in windows, could i install direct x under wine and get sacred to run? (is a diablo clone)
[04:16] <heaven> heaven@Station-Void:~$ wineconfig
[04:16] <heaven> The program 'wineconfig' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[04:16] <heaven> sudo apt-get install kde-guidance
[04:17] <heguru> daftest: plus its offtopic as this is ubuntu support channel
[04:17] <seb__> im on 7.04 and i cant find it in the package manager
[04:17] <daftest> heguru, I installed Ubuntu specialy for this expoit. I did not disable anything
[04:17] <^brandon^> kondor102  well basically I cant get a response back when it makes the DHCP request.  I have an onboard Marvell 88e8001 and a pci ethernet card as well, Realtek rtl8139.
[04:17] <heaven> what now?
[04:17] <irish53b> need help setting up an HP printer, when I use hp-setup I'm getting multiple errors
[04:17] <heaven> how do i actually run wine?
[04:17] <heaven> :|
[04:17] <daftest> user uses sudo Enters PW and then sudo remebers the pw for what 10 min
[04:17] <Innomen> heaven type winefile in a terminal
[04:18] <WaltzingAlong> heaven: you actually run wine with the command wine
[04:18] <heguru> daftest: thats the normal behavior, the moment you close the terminal it forgets the password
[04:18] <seb__> WaltzingAlong: im on 7.04 and i cant find it in the package manager
[04:18] <WaltzingAlong> heaven: but that alone is not all that useful. so instead you download utorrent for example then run  wine utorrent.exe
[04:18] <daftest> heguru, yup and what if some script executed by bashrc probes sudo with out a pw
[04:18] <daftest> it has the same tty :D
[04:19] <Innomen> WaltzingAlong: or, run winefile and select what you want to emulate that way :)
[04:19] <heaven> woowooow oo ... wait to much info ok winefile and it opened.. some window
[04:19] <WaltzingAlong> seb__: have you enabled the canonical repository?       deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[04:19] <heaven> what now?
[04:19] <seb__> dono
[04:19] <Innomen> heaven: what are you trying to do with wine? whats the goal here
[04:19] <heaven> running winshit files
[04:19] <Innomen> heaven: winefile is like wine's manager or shell
[04:20] <heguru> daftest: bashrc is run only when you start the shell
[04:20] <Innomen> heaven: thats not a goal, thats another means, what app would you like to run first?
[04:20] <heaven> ok so im not looking for a GUI program?
[04:20] <heguru> daftest: can you move this discussion to offtopic?
[04:20] <WaltzingAlong> heaven: so then you have winefile open, navigate to where you have the .exe you want to run, 2x click it
[04:20] <Innomen> heaven: what WaltzingAlong said
[04:20] <Innomen> :)
[04:20] <seb__> WaltzingAlong: nope how do i enable it
[04:20] <heaven> just like that?
[04:20] <heaven> it gets inside the kernel?
[04:20] <WaltzingAlong> !repositories
[04:20] <Innomen> heaven: yea
[04:21] <Innomen> what?
[04:21] <WaltzingAlong> gets inside the kernel? heaven
[04:21] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:21] <Innomen> kernal?
[04:21] <WaltzingAlong> seb__: through synaptic i guess, manager repositories
[04:21] <heaven> umm sorry i know im stupid as hell but it works with the kernel it's not a stand alone software with a GUI?
[04:21] <Innomen> *does his impression of that chick from hacker* Kernel who?
[04:21] <heaven> because that's what i was looking for
[04:21] <heaven> but it seems im wrong
[04:21] <heaven> again..
[04:21] <heaven> :D
[04:21] <daftest> heguru, is offtopic the ubuntu securty channel?
[04:22] <Innomen> heaven: for my own part, i dont care why i works so much as how, or if. :)
[04:22] <WaltzingAlong> !wine | heaven
[04:22] <ubotu> heaven: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[04:22] <WaltzingAlong> heaven: when a ms windows program uses the ms windows api to draw a window, for example, either ms windows does that or wine does that
[04:22] <irish53b> every time I print, my printer goes into a stopped: job-stopped state, need help
[04:23] <heguru> daftest: this is Ubuntu support channel, to support people with problems they're facing with ubuntu :) I am sure you will find many in #ubuntu-offtopic willing to explain to you how the script is not an exploit but normal behavior
[04:23] <seb__> WaltzingAlong: i must sound like a total noob but i cant find any option is synaptic to add repositories
[04:23] <heaven> Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'L2 Extreme Kit'.
[04:23] <heaven> ??
[04:23] <heguru> seb__: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[04:23] <WaltzingAlong> heaven: so no, wine is not an installation of ms windows
[04:23] <seb__> thanks
[04:23] <WaltzingAlong> heguru: thanks
[04:24] <karra> WaltzingAlong: I do not understand what you ment when you wrote: "supply us with the output of lsusb"
[04:24] <heguru> WaltzingAlong: welcome :)
[04:24] <seb__> so what was it again deb ...
[04:24] <WaltzingAlong> seb__: scroll up?
[04:25] <seb__> lol ok
[04:25] <seb__> irc is chaos
[04:25] <WaltzingAlong> karra: enter into a virtual terminal (command line) then type  lsusb
[04:25] <heaven> Cannot open /home/heaven/Desktop/utorrent.exe: No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file.
[04:25] <heaven> ok what now?
[04:26] <rico_> sudo apt-get install wine
[04:26] <freezey> whats the package for berkley db in ubuntu?>
[04:26] <karra> WaltzingAlong: Ok! Thanx!
[04:27] <seb__> WaltzingAlong: I added the repository and its still not coming up in search
[04:27] <WaltzingAlong> seb__: after you add the repository and enable it, you need to update your sources
[04:27] <seb__> ah
[04:27] <seb__> how would i go about doing that lol
[04:28] <heaven> how do i know if wine really works>
[04:28] <heaven> '?
[04:28] <heaven> on my pc
[04:28] <heaven> ...
[04:28] <heaven> because it seems its dead
[04:28] <heguru> seb__: when use add repository and close Software Sources it asks you to update, if you said yes then its updated
[04:28] <Innomen> anyone have experience with off the "record for gaim?"
[04:28] <Innomen> gah
[04:28] <Innomen> "off the record" for gaim*
[04:28] <seb__> it said another synapic was open and closed
[04:29] <seb__> il just delete it and re-add it
[04:29] <seb__> done thanks
[04:30] <pike_> heaven: after installing it run winecfg
[04:30] <pike_> heaven: now you still need to open windows progs with wine like wine utorrent.exe  or soemthing
[04:31] <seb__> Thank you WaltzingAlong and heguru im installing it now
[04:33] <Ken-123> hi
[04:34] <heguru> !hi | Ken-123
[04:34] <ubotu> Ken-123: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:34] <Ken-123> thanks! ;)
[04:34] <Innomen> !bugreport
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugreport - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <Innomen> how would i make a bug report?
[04:34] <Pici> !bug | Innomen
[04:34] <ubotu> Innomen: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:34] <cyrano> Hi.
[04:34] <cyrano> This is my problem:
[04:34] <cyrano> Open office crashes at startup. This is my output when i start oowriter in terminal: X-Error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[04:35] <cyrano>         Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
[04:35] <cyrano>         Resource ID:  0x580029c
[04:35] <cyrano>         Serial No:    2663 (2663)
[04:35] <heguru> Innomen: bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:35] <cyrano> These errors are reported asynchronously,
[04:35] <cyrano> set environment variable SAL_SYNCHRONIZE to 1 to help debugging
[04:35] <cyrano> Thanks for any help
[04:35] <Pici> paste | cyrano
[04:35] <Innomen> thanks guys
[04:35] <MasterShrek> cyrano, are you running 64 bit?
[04:35] <MasterShrek> !paste
[04:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:35] <cyrano> sorry. forgot to paste.
[04:35] <cyrano> no i run i386
[04:35] <RichW> I have a simple question.. My laptop has very little video memory... can I use some of my system memory to expand this?
[04:36] <heguru> RichW: no
[04:36] <csc`> RichardL: no
[04:36] <csc`> er
[04:36] <csc`> RichW: *
[04:36] <Ken-123> my god; is it always that bussy here?
[04:36] <cyrano> i run gutsy so it could be a bad update. but its been like this for two days and noone in #ubuntu+1 channel could help
[04:36] <MasterShrek> cyrano, try: export SAL_SYNCHRONIZE=1    and then try running again
[04:36] <Pici> Ken-123: usually moreso.
[04:36] <cyrano> in terminal?
[04:36] <RichW> I swear I saw a option in a X configuration thing once
[04:36] <MasterShrek> yes
[04:36] <murlidhar> when is this channel will officially support gutsy??
[04:36] <Pici> murlidhar: When Gutsy is released.
[04:36] <js_> when its released
[04:36] <heguru> murlidhar: after six days
[04:37] <Innomen> so the 18th
[04:37] <Crash91> !windows
[04:37] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:37] <murlidhar> yahooooooooooooo
[04:37] <Innomen> man you guys are hard with straight answers lol
[04:37] <MasterShrek> yea Innomen the 18th gutsy comes out
[04:37] <Innomen> sweet
[04:37] <RichW> !gutsy
[04:37] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[04:37] <Innomen> how often does that happen?
[04:38] <Innomen> new releasaes
[04:38] <knuffelbeertje> Hi, is it possible to reset someone's keyring password?
[04:38] <[mayh3m] pt> Hello, I'm trying to compile an ircd and during the 'make' cmd it says "collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" "*** [ircd]  Error 1" what is wrong?
[04:38] <MasterShrek> every 6 months or so
[04:38] <Pici> Innomen: 6 months
[04:38] <heguru> Innomen: 6 months
[04:38] <Ken-123> knuffelbeertje is nederlands???
[04:38] <cyrano> it didnt work
[04:38] <knuffelbeertje> Ken-123, nee
[04:38] <Innomen> wow cool so i have good timing, its like day 10 for me
[04:38] <Wips> I've installed windows and reinstalled grub. But afte I reinstalled grub some file called "<windows root>\system32\hal.dll" got damaged or deleted. I was thinking I'd open the partition in ubuntu and simply replace the file with one from the cd.. but I dont know where to find the windows-partition on the ubuntu.. Any ideas or other solutions?
[04:38] <Ken-123> nee :S
[04:38] <murlidhar> am using RC of gutsy and it has so far rocked ;-) giving no problems till now
[04:38] <AddyK> OK...
[04:38] <MasterShrek> cyrano, i only said to do that because it said to do that to help debugging, did you get different output now?
[04:38] <MasterShrek> murlidhar, what kinda problems?
[04:38] <Innomen> murlidhar: you know about #ubuntu+1 right?
[04:38] <cyrano> MasterShrek: just a little different. I'll paste it
[04:39] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: No problems
[04:39] <AddyK> why do I get /dev/fb0: File does not exist when I want X to run in fbdev
[04:39] <murlidhar> Innomen: i know thanks
[04:39] <Ken-123> je spreekt alleen nederlands, knuffelbeertje ;)
[04:39] <Innomen> murlidhar: just makin sure, these guys like to scold people.... alot.
[04:39] <Innomen> :)
[04:39] <Pici> !nl
[04:39] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[04:39] <murlidhar> ;)
[04:39] <cyrano> MasterShrek: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/40387/
[04:39] <cyrano> my output
[04:39] <Innomen> !iso
[04:40] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:40] <knuffelbeertje> Ken-123, ook niet
[04:40] <yogiB> NEWBIE q? - do you need special instructions on the CPU to run Xen? I have a regular turionX2 laptop
[04:40] <WaltzingAlong> !nrg
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nrg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <Innomen> !burning
[04:40] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:40] <Pici> WaltzingAlong:  http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion
[04:40] <Ken-123> hahahaha sorry ubotu
[04:40] <heguru> yogiB: no
[04:40] <MasterShrek> cyrano, and im assuming you dont have a very small amount of ram
[04:40] <cyrano> 1 GB
[04:40] <heguru> yogiB: you can run xen on your laptop
[04:40] <MasterShrek> cyrano, i would say its a problem with the package then
[04:41] <[mayh3m] pt> What do I install to be able to compile things that use a 'make' cmd?
[04:41] <Ken-123> ciao!
[04:41] <Pici> [mayh3m] pt: build-essential
[04:41] <yogiB> heguru: ty m8, will I be able to run only others linux or netbsd?
[04:41] <MasterShrek> yogiB, you may have an option in your bios for virtualization, which may help with performance...i do on my turionX2
[04:41] <cyrano> how will i solve it? wait for update? Noone else has complaine on oofice problems with gutsy?
[04:41] <DM|> Anyone know a good VPN client?
[04:41] <[mayh3m] pt> Pici: And I can get that in synaptic?
[04:41] <Pici> [mayh3m] pt: sure can :)
[04:41] <yogiB> MasterShrek: what options?
[04:42] <heguru> yogiB: anything that can be modified to run on xen (bsd, linux) Windows won't work
[04:42] <MasterShrek> cyrano, have you tried reinstalling it?
[04:42] <cyrano> ooffice? no.
[04:42] <MasterShrek> yogiB, theres jsut an option that i can enable or disable in my bios
[04:42] <mrigns> http://digg.com/linux_unix/K_Ubuntu_member_Martin_Bohm_not_allowed_to_travel_to_the_US
[04:42] <cyrano> i'll try. best to do it with apptitude i guess
[04:42] <[mayh3m] pt> Pici: I'm still getting an error compiling :/
[04:42] <Chinaski1> hello
[04:43] <MasterShrek> cyrano, or synaptic
[04:43] <yogiB> MasterShrek: is it the SVM option?
[04:43] <Pici> [mayh3m] pt: Do you have all the required prerequisites for the source you are trying to compile?
[04:43] <Innomen> thanx guys l8r
[04:43] <seb__> Hi its me again i have run the installer for vmware server off the repository and it had run the config thing and says this when i click forward: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/vmware-server_1.0.3-1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:43] <MasterShrek> yogiB, maybe, i dont remember exactly, i just remember it said something about "Virtualization"
[04:44] <[mayh3m] pt> Pici: I'm not sure, I just downloaded ircu, i did the 'sh configure' and now I'm trying to do make and it wont work
[04:44] <Pici> [mayh3m] pt: There should be a README or INSTALL file in there with instructions
[04:45] <seb__> i have run the installer for vmware server off the repository and it had run the config thing and says this when i click forward: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/vmware-server_1.0.3-1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:46] <heguru> !repeat | seb__
[04:46] <ubotu> seb__: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:46] <seb__> sorry but it also says to keep trying
[04:46] <cyrano> MasterShrek: should i mark for reinstallation or do a complete removal first in synaptic?
[04:47] <AddyK> Anyone expert in framebuffers? :D
[04:47] <ubuntuguy> Anyone got compiz working with either i810 or intel drivers?
[04:47] <MasterShrek> cyrano, up to you, i would completely remove then reinstall
[04:48] <AddyK> ubuntuguy: yes
[04:48] <AddyK> me
[04:49] <Gast876> hey
[04:49] <AddyK> what video card do you have ubuntuguy ?
[04:49] <Chinaski1> hello i am looking for a way to copy my linux partition  to an external hd in order to boot into linux from this hd ..
[04:49] <Chinaski1> any help?
[04:49] <murlidhar> how to reset the lag in this channel?? me new to irc
[04:49] <heguru> AddyK: what help do you need with framebuffer?
[04:49] <AddyK> murlidhar: new internet connection? or closer server
[04:49] <ubuntuguy> aAddyK on Gutsy?  I had it working on Feisty then upgraded, now nothing
[04:49] <Innomen> I guess i should just get usta spesifying "gui" when i ask for things, and noting that i do not know linux
[04:50] <Bo^Dick> hi
[04:50] <AddyK> heguru: well I changed the i810 to fbdev under driver in xorg.conf so I can have framebuffer, but it said /dev/fb0 not exitend
[04:50] <AddyK> (existent)
[04:50] <Bo^Dick> i've got a slightly off topic question here
[04:50] <murlidhar> AddyK: about three months old and i am in india
[04:50] <Bo^Dick> i updated my bios recently and had to update it back again
[04:50] <Bo^Dick> the flash was successful
[04:50] <Bo^Dick> now the motherboard just beeps
[04:51] <Bo^Dick> do i have to buy a new motherboard?
[04:51] <Pici> Bo^Dick: ##hardware
[04:51] <crowbar> Hello all.   I'd like to make the typing cursor be fat by default (instead of the thin line.)   I want the fat, overwrite mode (that you get by hitting insert) cursor to be my standard cursor.
[04:51] <Innomen> Can someone tell me if there is a *gui* way to clone this duel boot drive? Note: I do not know linux. (G4L is useless)
[04:51] <AddyK> murlidhar: I wanted to know the type of video card :)
[04:51] <nanonyme> seb__, i also don't think you're giving enough information for debugging
[04:51] <heguru> AddyK: you have to enable fb modules (they're blacklisted by default) sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-frambuffer ~/
[04:51] <MasterShrek> Bo^Dick, search for beep codes on your motherboard, but it doesnt sound good :(
[04:51] <AddyK> Ati? I810 (integrated)
[04:51] <murlidhar> ubuntuguy: compiz-fusion would be a  better idea for gutsy
[04:51] <Gast876> my routing ip is resetted on every reboot to 0.0.0.0 somebody know this bug?
[04:51] <MasterShrek> isnt i810 intel?
[04:51] <bqmassey> murlidhar: compiz-fusion instead of what?
[04:51] <AddyK> heguru: lol, blacklisted?
[04:51] <seb__> nanonyme: thats all the info im given lol
[04:51] <ubuntuguy> murlidhar: yes, I guess, I'
[04:51] <Innomen> at least partimage had a menu, sorta *grrr*
[04:52] <nanonyme> seb__, http://communities.vmware.com/thread/91807 might be related though
[04:52] <heguru> AddyK: well yes blacklisted :)
[04:52] <ubuntuguy> I'm trying to do it with the gnome appearance applet
[04:52] <murlidhar> bqmassey: instead of compiz alone
[04:52] <sipior> Gast876: what does your routing table look like?
[04:52] <AddyK> heguru: but why? I mean... they're good when nothing else works
[04:52] <nanonyme> murlidhar, true
[04:52] <bqmassey> murlidhar: the new release doesn't have fusion?
[04:52] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, yes it does
[04:52] <heguru> AddyK: well but then they can sometimes prevent the better driver from being loaded
[04:53] <Gast876> sorry where cani i look at it? i1e3f on linux since yesterday :)
[04:53] <murlidhar> bqmassey: are u sure?
[04:53] <sipior> Gast876: try pasting the output of "route -n" and ifconfig
[04:53] <AddyK> heguru: ah, right :) thanks :) I'll try the blackist hting :)
[04:53] <AddyK> (thing)
[04:53] <sipior> Gast876: but use the pastebin service, s.v.p
[04:53] <Innomen> nm
[04:53] <Innomen> !bug
[04:53] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:54] <nanonyme> MasterShrek, erm, are you absolutely sure abou this?
[04:54] <murlidhar> anyways i am using gutsy and i do not require any of them the default works fine
[04:54] <MasterShrek> whats that nanonyme ?
[04:54] <Gast876> hm ok i ll try
[04:54] <nanonyme> i think the committee just decided about compiz, not compiz-fusion
[04:54] <nanonyme> that is, compiz will be on in gutsy
[04:54] <seb__> nanonyme: il give that a go
[04:54] <heguru> nanonyme: compiz that comes with gutsy IS compiz fusion
[04:54] <edelva> hello all
[04:54] <sipior> Gast876: if those commands don't appear to work, try prefacing them with the "/sbin/" path
[04:55] <tushyd> how do I set up a vnc server on my computer?
[04:55] <MasterShrek> !vnc | tushyd
[04:55] <ubotu> tushyd: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[04:55] <WaltzingAlong> !info x11vnc | tushyd
[04:55] <ubotu> tushyd: x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1 (feisty), package size 438 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[04:55] <atlfalcons866> will i see a speed increase if i compile a kernel
[04:55] <Gast876> ok ifconfig worked
[04:55] <nanonyme> heguru, compiz != compiz-fusion. what on earth is going on in here?
[04:55] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: probably not
[04:55] <heguru> nanonyme: any version of compiz starting 0.52 is actually compiz fusion
[04:55] <edelva> The KDE in ubuntu 7.10 is it KDE4?
[04:55] <tushyd> thanks
[04:55] <WaltzingAlong> edelva: no
[04:55] <Gast876> where shall i paste the summary?
[04:55] <Bo^Dick> the reason i restored my old bios was that ubuntu didn't manage to locate any mount point after bios update
[04:55] <WaltzingAlong> !paste | Gast876
[04:55] <ubotu> Gast876: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:55] <atlfalcons866> even if i compile it for my specfic processir?
[04:56] <MasterShrek> edelva, no, but you can install kde4 which i am actually currently doing
[04:56] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: maybe but if so i would doubt it would be anything you really would notice
[04:56] <heguru> nanonyme: *0.5.2
[04:56] <edelva> wowww.how do you do that Mastershrek?
[04:56] <nanonyme> it's not stable
[04:56] <atlfalcons866> if i switch my fs to jfs would there be more speed
[04:56] <bqmassey> gonna try booting unbuntu.. bbl
[04:56] <WaltzingAlong> edelva: check kubuntu.org for instructions
[04:56] <nanonyme> are you sure gutsy will have 0.5.2 (development version) instead of 0.4 (stable version)?
[04:56] <sipior> atlfalcons866: depends on the sorts of files on your system
[04:56] <edelva> Thanks
[04:57] <nanonyme> agh, wrong channel for this
[04:57] <Pici> !gutsy
[04:57] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[04:57] <atlfalcons866> i mostly have home videos
[04:57] <MasterShrek> edelva, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[04:57] <atlfalcons866> and ext3 stalls a lot on 1.4Gb file
[04:57] <heguru> nanonyme: it contains 0.5.2
[04:57] <sipior> atlfalcons866: i doubt jfs would provide an enormous speedup, if any. you could build a test filesystem on an identical disk, see what happens
[04:57] <atlfalcons866> and ext3 fsck is annoying
[04:58] <heguru> nanonyme: infact they upgraded to 0.6.0 :)
[04:58] <sipior> atlfalcons866: you can turn that off with tune2fs
[04:58] <sipior> if you really want to...
[04:58] <robertj_> hey all, how can I add another lo?
[04:58] <seb__> nanonyme: thanks that forums topic fixed my error
[04:59] <heaven> how do i mount a .udf disk in ubuntu ?
[05:00] <Wips> I've installed Windows and I've reinstalled Grub.. but somewhere in the reinstalling grub process a windows dll called "hal.dll" got damaged. I've tried to replace it with one from the winxpcd, but with no luck.. Anyone have any idea at what may have gone wrong?
[05:00] <atlfalcons866> can i am also running out of inodes
[05:00] <WaltzingAlong> !grub | Wips
[05:00] <ubotu> Wips: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:00] <igge> hello...
[05:00] <sipior> heaven: i believe you just need to supply the "-t udf" argument to mount
[05:00] <Wips> I've done that WaltzingAlong
[05:00] <sipior> heaven: try googling for udf and ubuntu, see what comes up
[05:01] <atlfalcons866> im kissing ext3 goodbye and switching to jfs
[05:01] <igge> if I install the 7.10 rc, is it possible to upgrade to the "real" release without reinstalling?
[05:01] <WaltzingAlong> igge: yes
[05:01] <igge> WaltzingAlong: ah ok... so once I have 7.10 rc installed the update is just lika a normal update by the package manager?
[05:02] <WaltzingAlong> igge: right
[05:02] <sipior> atlfalcons866: you're running out of inodes? with large home movie files? that seems odd...
[05:03] <atlfalcons866> well im done with ext3s slowness and its 5% reserved space
[05:03] <igge> WaltzingAlong: wicked..
[05:03] <Innomen> !torrent
[05:03] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:03] <^brandon^> I cant seem to get my install of ubuntu 7.04 to connect to the internet.  Neither my onboard ethernet port (marvel 88e8001) nor my pci ethernet card (Realtek rtl8139) will connect.  Anyone know why this is?
[05:04] <WaltzingAlong> ^brandon^: what is the output of ifconfig
[05:04] <sipior> tune2fs can set the reserved space to 0, not sure they'll be much gain in speed going to jfs
[05:04] <AlexC_> Hey guys,
[05:04] <ndube> brandon; do you see your cards on ifconfig
[05:04] <sipior> you might see if your disks are performing properly before going to the trouble of building a new filesystem
[05:08] <demonstealer> what is the channel name for amsn?
[05:08] <[mayh3m] pt> Does anyone know of a website with a tutorial for setting up an ircd?
[05:09] <namiwawa> how can u use windows inside Linux
[05:09] <heguru> demonstealer: #amsn
[05:09] <namiwawa> i cant get the install package for wine windows emulator
[05:09] <Pici> namiwawa: why not?
[05:09] <^brandon^> waltzingalong , I pasted my ifconfig here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40389/
[05:09] <MasterShrek> !vm
[05:09] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[05:09] <[mayh3m] pt> namiwawa: Wine is the only way.
[05:09] <genii> !wine
[05:09] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[05:09] <namiwawa> please give me the install command
[05:09] <Pici> namiwawa: sudo apt-get install wine
[05:10] <namiwawa> let me give it a try and thanks Pici
[05:10] <Puppy_> just wondering, when will dell be offering 7.10 on the Ubuntu computers?
[05:11] <namiwawa> Pici, thanks alot
[05:11] <namiwawa> it worked
[05:11] <namiwawa> i was trying the whole line of command
[05:11] <namiwawa> now let me know one thing
[05:11] <MasterShrek> Puppy_, probably when its released, but i guess its up to dell
[05:11] <namiwawa> how do u know what to type and when to do the same
[05:11] <Puppy_> MasterShrek: ok thanks.
[05:11] <MasterShrek> namiwawa, what do u mean?
[05:12] <maff> anyone else having issues logging into gnome?
[05:12] <namiwawa> like now i just wanted to install wine windows emulator
[05:12] <MasterShrek> maff, what kind of issues?
[05:12] <namiwawa> i didnt know the package is "wine"
[05:12] <ndube> maff; please be a little more specific
[05:12] <namiwawa> so how do u determine what to type?
[05:12] <maff> upon logging in via gdm the screen goes the nice orange color for about 30-45 seconds then kicks back out to the gdm login
[05:13] <MasterShrek> namiwawa, you can use synaptic (system > administration > synaptic) to search for package names, its just going to take time to know what the name of the packages are though
[05:13] <maff> only safemode works
[05:13] <|_SpY_|> anybody knows where i can download ubuntu 7.10 RC1 ?
[05:13] <sipior> namiwawa: synaptic has a good package search facility. also try "apt-cache search windows". that sort of thing
[05:13] <Pici> namiwawa: `apt-cache search stuff` and I've been doing this for a while.
[05:13] <Pici> !rc | |_SpY_|
[05:13] <ubotu> |_SpY_|: Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) Release Candidate information and release notes can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - The RC is development software and as such unstable, support *ONLY* in #ubuntu+1
[05:13] <WaltzingAlong> |_SpY_|: releases.ubuntu.com
[05:13] <maff> I should mention this is 7.10
[05:14] <MasterShrek> maff, #ubuntu+1
[05:14] <Pici> maff: you shoud ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:14] <sipior> maff: hmm...better read the topic then :)
[05:14] <namiwawa> thanks alot guys I appreciate
[05:14] <urthmover> will there be a difference with the /iso for the new 710...than the beta that I can download now?   can I just download the beta now...and do some updates in 6 days when the official release comes out?
[05:14] <maff> so this will be fixed in the next 5 days? ;)
[05:15] <heguru> urthmover: yes you can update to final using update-manager
[05:15] <new2buntu> hi, i'm unable to get audio mixing working on feisty (tried jackd, esd, artsd) -- any tips ?
[05:15] <heaven> i type: su and then the password but sais autentification failiure, what the hell? i use that password at log in but when witching to su doesen't work any clues?
[05:15] <urthmover> ok great thanks
[05:15] <Pici> urthmover: Will there be a difference? Yes.  Will it be a big difference? Hopefully not.
[05:15] <sipior> heaven: you're thinking of sudo, i imagine
[05:15] <WaltzingAlong> heaven: su is to switch users or without a name will attempt root;
[05:15] <sipior> heaven: su will expect the root password, by default
[05:15] <WaltzingAlong> !root | heaven
[05:15] <ubotu> heaven: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:16] <MasterShrek> heaven, its asking for your root user's password, it doesnt exist though
[05:16] <urthmover> I just don't want to have to re-install in half a week.  so I was confirming that I can just run update-manager to fix it up to final
[05:17] <WaltzingAlong> urthmover: correct. update-manager will do that without reinstalling
[05:17] <urthmover> and I'm hearing that yes...install the beta now...and just keep it up-to-date ....and its the same as installing final from scratch
[05:17] <urthmover> good thanks
[05:17] <MattyM> Hi folks, having trouble installing Ubuntu Gutsy.  After selecting to start install, it flashes video mode not supported on my monitor
[05:17] <Pici> urthmover: Use the RC not the Beta
[05:17] <Schalken> urthmover: correct :)
[05:17] <Pici> MattyM: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[05:17] <urthmover> ok Pici
[05:17] <MattyM> ok Pici
[05:18] <heaven> yeah im trying to make ubuntu read UDF dvd format but nothing seems to work and google aint helping
[05:18] <MasterShrek> heaven, i think u might have to convert it
[05:18] <MasterShrek> maybe not though...udf, lemme check something...
[05:18] <WaltzingAlong> heaven: your device needs to support it
[05:19] <jrib> heaven: check bugs.ubuntu.com, there is a bug
[05:19] <pasteler0> hello, I can't make compiz working properly with my ubuntu, anyone over there could help me with this?
[05:19] <MasterShrek> heaven, try sudo modprobe udf  then try
[05:19] <heguru> heaven: install udftools
[05:19] <jrib> pasteler0: #ubuntu-effects for that
[05:19] <sipior> pasteler0: you might simply want to wait a few days and see if the problem hasn't gone away in the newest release
[05:19] <[mayh3m] pt> Is the newest ircu compatible with the newest ubuntu?
[05:20] <pike_> [mayh3m] pt: abolutely
[05:20] <pike_> [mayh3m] pt: what is ircu?
[05:20] <[mayh3m] pt> pike_: an ircd
[05:20] <pegger> I am looking for a good reliable cpanel host, that does not have downtime
[05:20] <pasteler0> ok
[05:20] <pegger> any suggestions
[05:20] <heguru> !ot | pegger
[05:20] <ubotu> pegger: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:20] <ubuntoonoob> I got a problem
[05:21] <WaltzingAlong> we have a solution
[05:21] <MasterShrek> ask away ubuntoonoob
[05:21] <pike_> [mayh3m] pt: yeah sorry :) i dont know about the dependancies but id imagine it wouldnt be hard to setup
[05:21] <heguru> ubuntoonoob: whats the problem
[05:21] <new2buntu> greetings, does anyone know how to get one of artsd/esd/jackd working on feisty ?
[05:21] <heaven> <downloading UDF tools>
[05:21] <MasterShrek> new2buntu, they should work automatically, pastebin the output of: lsmod | grep snd
[05:21] <[mayh3m] pt> pike_: Well I keep getting errors when I run the 'make' cmd
[05:21] <heguru> new2buntu: esd is installed/enabled by default in Ubuntu. artsd on kubuntu
[05:21] <MasterShrek> [mayh3m] pt, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:22] <heaven> ok it downloaded, installed but where did it install or how do i use UDF tools?
[05:22] <sipior> new2buntu: running more than one of those at once might be the source of your sound troubles :)
[05:22] <ubuntoonoob> I added another IDE Hard disk to my system AFTER I installed ubuntu. Ubuntu recognises this drove, however I have to mount it every time I restart, also I got no user rights to write anything onto the disk (only the root, but i don't know how to become root in ubuntu)
[05:22] <lee__> eh this is a general questionnn not genre related...how do you make a boot able hdd or cread a bootaable hdd with an iso or can it be done?
[05:22] <[mayh3m] pt> MasterShrek: I'll try that when I can get my ubuntu to restart. The ati installer messed it up and it won't boot now.
[05:22] <new2buntu> heguru, with eg. esd, mplayer *.mp3 cant open /dev/dsp on the second instance
[05:22] <^brandon^> I cant seem to get my install of ubuntu 7.04 to connect to the internet.  Neither my onboard ethernet port (marvel 88e8001) nor my pci ethernet card (Realtek rtl8139) will connect.  Anyone know why this is?  I have my ifconfig pasted here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40389/
[05:23] <new2buntu> mastershrek, lsmod | grep snd -- very long - any line i should look for ?
[05:23] <[mayh3m] pt> Looks Like I might have to reinstall lol
[05:23] <MasterShrek> new2buntu, not really, i was just going to make sure that you had sound drivers loaded
[05:23] <BrianMH> hello
[05:23] <MasterShrek> new2buntu, it looks liek you do...
[05:23] <BrianMH> I bet your all quite busy but when you get a chance could I get some advice
[05:23] <sipior> ^brandon^: how did you try to connect? dhcp?
[05:23] <new2buntu> mastershrek, ok, yes mplayer -ao alsa works fine, but just the audio mixing part doesnt work for more than one channel
[05:23] <heguru> new2buntu: configure mplayer to use esd, mplayer -ao esd
[05:23] <MasterShrek> BrianG, ask away
[05:24] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: In ubuntu you don't become root. you use sudo to gain root access.  Your issue with the drive is "permissions".  You need to change the permissions of the drive.
[05:24] <heaven> ok it downloaded, installed but where did it install or how do i use UDF tools?
[05:24] <^brandon^> sipior yes, DHCP
[05:24] <new2buntu> heguru, done that; first instance works fine, second instance (at the same time) cant open /dev/dsp
[05:24] <ubuntoonoob> How do I do that Scunizi ?
[05:24] <erUSUL> !root | ubuntoonoob
[05:24] <ubotu> ubuntoonoob: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:24] <sipior> ^brandon^: and what command did you use?
[05:24] <BrianMH> having a bit of a problem on install
[05:24] <BrianMH> works on my desktop
[05:24] <BrianMH> on my laptop its getting stuck at installing hardware
[05:24] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: first.. you said the drive doen't automatically mount right?
[05:24] <^brandon^> sipior command?  i dont follow
[05:24] <BrianMH> took a bit to get into safe mode in the first place
[05:25] <MasterShrek> !enter | BrianMH
[05:25] <ubotu> BrianMH: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:25] <sipior> ^brandon^: what steps did you take to try connecting the card
[05:25] <^brandon^> sipior i have tried ifdown and ifup
[05:25] <ubuntoonoob> yes, Scunizi ?
[05:25] <ePax> I'm getting black screen on all my video players and i'm getting this error message on my MPlayer when i try to play videos "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Anyone know how to solve this problem? I'm on Feisty and i have radeon 9550 with fgrlx and XGL.
[05:25] <MasterShrek> BrianMH, does it finally boot up though?
[05:25] <genii> For whoever was asking when dell will ship with 7.10, I am chatting with a Dell rep this moment. They plan to keep shipping 7.04 until 8.04
[05:25] <heguru> heaven: you have to setup packet device associations, read man pktsetup
[05:25] <BrianMH> yeah in safe mode now...doing the graphical install...its just stuck at installing hardware now
[05:25] <MasterShrek> very interesting genii
[05:25] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: first let'
[05:25] <sipior> ^brandon^: try "dhclient eth0" and see what it says (or try with eth1 if that's the card you want)
[05:25] <heaven> umm works with other stuff but can't mount UDF
[05:26] <new2buntu> thanks for the replies all, i'll try again with apt-*
[05:26] <MasterShrek> BrianG, how long has it been stuck there?
[05:26] <Innomen> is anyone aware of a gui/shell for "Sox" or anything esle that would batch convert .voc audio files into anything useful?
[05:26] <KlrSpz> anyone know of a quick/easy/secure irc server?
[05:26] <BrianMH> loading module 'usb-storage' for 'USB storage... about 30 minutes
[05:26] <heguru> heaven: to mount UDF files you need to set up packet device associations
[05:26] <sipior> KlrSpz: ...pick any two... :)
[05:26] <heaven> how?
[05:26] <aTypical> Morning, all.  I'm trying to install 7.10 on my laptop.  All appears to go well until it gets to 90% complete.  At that point the install seems to hang.  Is there a way I can find out if the install is in fact still going?
[05:26] <Cyber_Stalker> hmm
[05:26] <heaven> (total noob here sorry)
[05:26] <ben__> bonjour
[05:26] <heguru> aTypical: gutsy support in #ubuntu+1
[05:27] <KlrSpz> sipior: any two? what do you mean?
[05:27] <MasterShrek> BrianMH, ouch, have you tried starting the install over again?
[05:27] <aTypical> heguru, thanks.
[05:27] <CyberAway> aTypical, it does generally do that
[05:27] <heguru> heaven: just type man pktsetup and follow
[05:27] <bqmassey> oh boy.. running in ubuntu.. yay
[05:27] <CyberAway> i think
[05:27] <Schalken> aTypical: if the isntaller on the livecd crashes, try the alternate cd where you have more control.
[05:27] <heaven> yay
[05:27] <lee__> hello
[05:27] <heaven> comand not found
[05:27] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: first lets get the drive mounting correctly at boot. type "mount" in a terminal and paste the results to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ then give me the url here.
[05:27] <alloy1124> :)
[05:27] <sipior> KlrSpz: well, quick and easy, but not secure, etc. etc.
[05:27] <KlrSpz> ok, then let's focus on security
[05:28] <BrianMH> not yet.  I'm guessing this is probably a hardware incompatibility with my wireless card or something.  if I try restarting it and it gets stuck again is there a way to force it to skip the current hardware device install?
[05:28] <Hypergraphe> i've some problems with gutsy. Actualy on my laptop when i try to use my headphone output, it works but without disabling the main output .. I try many things but it doesn't work. Any idea ?
[05:28] <lee__> can one creat a boot able hdd using an iso?
[05:28] <MasterShrek> BrianMH, what kind of wifi card is it?
[05:28] <_fang> hello, i just installed ubuntu 7.10 on a secondary hd of mine. i have the primary one (that is running now), with debian installed, and grub on it. when i installed ubuntu i unchecked the option to re-install grub in order to prevent any mess ups. i would appreciate any references you could get me to manually add the ubuntu image to the grub that is on the primary hd
[05:28] <BrianMH> built in broadcom
[05:28] <sipior> KlrSpz: how about trying the server that freenode runs? they seem to do all right
[05:28] <lee__> or extract the contents to either an sd card?
[05:28] <KlrSpz> lee__: not exactly, you can use DD to copy an HDD
[05:28] <ferronica> Gusty Gibbon released ???
[05:28] <MasterShrek> !grub | _fang
[05:28] <ubotu> _fang: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:28] <heaven> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40393/
[05:28] <KlrSpz> /motd
[05:28] <MasterShrek> BrianMH, before you install, type in a terminal: sudo rmmod bcm43xx
[05:29] <KlrSpz> sipior: do you know the product name?
[05:29] <CyberAway> !camera
[05:29] <_fang> MasterShrek: thx!
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <lee__> hmm how about a way to extract the iso to a sd card
[05:29] <BrianMH> on bootup there was a problem with bcm43
[05:29] <ferronica> IS Gusty Gibbon released ???
[05:29] <MasterShrek> CyberAway, what about a camera?
[05:29] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40394/
[05:29] <lee__> i am out of disks lol
[05:29] <heguru> ferronica: no, will be on 18th
[05:29] <Hypergraphe> ferronica, nope only beta
[05:29] <BrianMH> so what does that command doe exactly?
[05:29] <MasterShrek> ferronica, its in rc right now, final release on the 18th
[05:29] <sipior> KlrSpz: looks like it's called hyperion. shows up when you log in
[05:29] <Hypergraphe> rc
[05:30] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: are you running Dapper or Feisty?
[05:30] <sipior> ^brandon^: did that work for you?
[05:30] <CyberAway> MasterShrek, i have a sony digi cam and when i pug it in and turn it on it doesnt like auto detect it :(
[05:30] <MasterShrek> BrianMH, it unloads the kernel module for your wirless card, i think the installer may pass it up, after the install you can go through setting it up
[05:30] <heaven> feisty
[05:30] <lee__> i have a disk but there is one error on it
[05:30] <^brandon^> sipior here is the result from dhclient that i did yesterday : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40395/
[05:30] <heaven> ups
[05:30] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi Feisty i think
[05:30] <MasterShrek> CyberAway, mine does...hmm
[05:30] <KlrSpz> well what's a good server system to do intranet chat that has encrpytion?
[05:30] <heaven> heguru: Comand not found
[05:30] <ferronica> oh okay
[05:30] <KlrSpz> or some kind of security?
[05:30] <BrianMH> thanks thats exactly what I wanted
[05:30] <heguru> heaven: did you install udftools?
[05:30] <heguru> heaven: sudo apt-get install udftools
[05:31] <CyberAway> KlrSpz, you can chat on irc using SSL
[05:31] <Evanlec> heguru, still here eh? just got back from a job interview
[05:31] <CyberAway> well connect to the server using SSL
[05:31] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok now in a terminal type "blkid" and paste those results.
[05:31] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, howd it go?
[05:31] <heguru> Evanlec: yeah, how did it go?
[05:31] <Evanlec> it went good i thot
[05:31] <sipior> ^brandon^: you sure there's a dhcp server listening?
[05:31] <MasterShrek> mcdonalds Evanlec ?
[05:31] <ubuntoonoob> aah, scunizi , the second drive isn't mounted, yet
[05:31] <Evanlec> webmaster position at a small computer sales place
[05:31] <MasterShrek> =P
[05:31] <Evanlec> lol
[05:31] <ubuntoonoob> shall i mount it and do "mount" again ?
[05:31] <MasterShrek> cool
[05:32] <sipior> ^brandon^: i take it this card is plugged into a cable modem or so?
[05:32] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: that's ok..
[05:32] <Evanlec> yea, interview went well but...
[05:32] <ubuntoonoob> ok, then I'll just do blkid
[05:32] <Evanlec> at the end he told me the pay-rate ... i was not impressed
[05:32] <urthmover> sometimes I just watch iptraf like the matrix
[05:32] <cberlo> Hi folks.  Anyone know if the profile editor sabayon works properly in either Feisty or Gutsy?
[05:32] <ferronica> i have one .iso image in ubuntu 7.04 gnone, now i wanna to add some file in it is it possible to do it if yes how ?
[05:32] <^brandon^> sipior yeah its plugged into the cable modem, in that paste the modem was plugged into eth0, nothing was plugged into eth1
[05:32] <ubuntoonoob> Scuzini: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40397/
[05:33] <Innomen> !audio
[05:33] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:33] <MasterShrek> ferronica, apparently there is, i wouldnt have any idea how to though
[05:33] <Innomen> !players
[05:33] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[05:33] <sipior> ^brandon^: might try looking at your cable modem logs, if you can get to them. does the link work under windows?
[05:33] <Evanlec> ferronica, u should be able to open up that iso in archive manager and extract it, then add ur file(s) and repackage it as an iso (the latter part im not sure on, give it a search probly easy)
[05:33] <KlrSpz> CyberAway: yeah i realize that, just not sure what daemon to go with
[05:33] <MasterShrek> ^brandon^, have you cycled the power on you cable modem?
[05:33] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. try mounting the drive and doing blkid again.. I only see 2 partitions on one drive..
[05:34] <belgarath_> Hi!   is there a way to list all the packages i've installed on my ubuntu-pc?   I want to clone it to my laptop.
[05:34] <dgjones> !cloning | belgarath_
[05:34] <ubotu> belgarath_: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[05:34] <lee__> ok better qyestion, if i have a 64 bit machine how do i upgrade online to the 64 bit version of any thing?
[05:34] <MasterShrek> belgarath_, i think synaptic can export the package lists also
[05:34] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, what do u do just curious
[05:34] <ferronica> Evanlec: i did , but when i copy file and paste option is dim :(
[05:34] <sipior> ^brandon^: yeah, that's a good point. if you've switched cards, some modems get confused by the new MAC
[05:34] <lee__> eh either festy or gutasy?
[05:34] <^brandon^> sipior : as far as whether or not DHCP server is listening?  I have no idea as i dont know much about this stuff, i dont this its a prob with the modem as i am using the same cable right now, just switching it back and forth from computer to computer when needed
[05:34] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, nothing, im going to college :)
[05:34] <belgarath_> wow ... thanks!  (try to do that with windows)   :)
[05:35] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, nice
[05:35] <Hypergraphe> i've some problems with gutsy. Actualy on my laptop when i try to use my headphone output, it works but without disabling the main output .. I try many things but it doesn't work. Any idea ?
[05:35] <sipior> ^brandon^: ah, then try MasterShrek's suggestion. bet your modem is confused by the changed card
[05:35] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi : blkid shows the same, but mount now has another line ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40398/ )
[05:35] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, computer engineering...tough major
[05:35] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, ooh yea i bet
[05:36] <^brandon^> sipior : sorry I missed MasterShrek's suggestion and I cant seem to find it
[05:36] <lee__> MasterShrek, is there a commandin line in the up date that can allow you to up date to a 64 bit version of either feisty or gutsy?
[05:36] <sipior> ^brandon^: power cycle your cable modem
[05:36] <MasterShrek> lee__, its the same as 32 bit
[05:36] <MasterShrek> ^brandon^, unplug it and wait like 30 seconds, then plug it back in
[05:36] <lee__> really?
[05:36] <lee__> wierd
[05:37] <MasterShrek> wait lee__ are you running 32 bit right now?
[05:37] <MasterShrek> and u want to upgrade to 64?
[05:37] <lee__> yes and i need 64 bit
[05:37] <MasterShrek> youre better off reinstalling
[05:37] <lee__> yes
[05:37] <^brandon^> alright, ill be right back!
[05:37] <lee__> and i am out disks lol
[05:37] <MasterShrek> :(
[05:37] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: what's weird is your drives are showing up as hd?? and not sd??.  My Feisty install shows all my drives as sd?? even though they are a mix of SATA and IDE.. no problem though.  Now we need to create a mount point for the drive.  Type sudo mkdir /media/hdb1
[05:37] <lee__> and money lol
[05:38] <MasterShrek> i just preordered my gutsy cds :)
[05:38] <jrib> lee__: why do you need 64bit?
[05:38] <Evanlec> lee__, shrek is right, u cant just "upgrade" to 64-bit , it wont work
[05:38] <MasterShrek> nobody NEEDS 64 bit
[05:38] <cberlo> lee__: There's a way to netboot ubuntu to install -- do you have another machine you could setup to do that?
[05:38] <lee__> because i have tatsed its power and i love it
[05:38] <lee__> i have a second hdd
[05:38] <Evanlec> from what i've read, it seems that 64-bit only gets taken advantage of in certain situations
[05:38] <lee__> i can swap
[05:39] <cberlo> Is 64-bit actually desktop-usable yet?  Web plugins, multimedia, etc.?
[05:39] <kuch3n> can i get help for the compiz-extra package here?
[05:39] <lee__> ahh ok
[05:39] <Evanlec> lee i'd say give it a shot, but you will need a 64-bit iso image
[05:39] <jrib> lee__: you realize there is no 64bit sun java plugin and flash?
[05:39] <kuch3n> want to install it but there is a error...
[05:39] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi , done. It asked for a password. I typed my userpw, was that correct ?
[05:39] <Evanlec> cberlo, there's ways to hack around just about every problem, the question is whether u want to spend the effort
[05:39] <lee__> yes i know
[05:39] <MasterShrek> cberlo, i use it for everything, multimedia is no issue, flash and java are the only things u really have to worry about, and they arent nearly as hard to install as they used to be
[05:39] <heguru> kuch3n: try #ubuntu-effects
[05:39] <wers> how do I set the compose key on gnome?
[05:39] <kuch3n> thx
[05:40] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: yes that's correct.  Are you also dual booting? It looks like your main install is on hdd1 instead of hda1
[05:40] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, ur runnin 64-bit?
[05:40] <cberlo> Evanlec: No, I want simple to use.  I'll stick with 32 until it's "plug and play" for 64-bit.  And then I'll enjoy the "free" upgrade.
[05:40] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, yep
[05:40] <MasterShrek> gutsy 64bit
[05:40] <HealthyElijah> how many of you are running vmware?
[05:40] <lee__> i have a 64 bit but it has one error in 1 file
[05:40] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, did u try the 32-bit first?
[05:40] <MasterShrek> not i HealthyElijah, qemu/kvm
[05:40] <sipior> wers: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout Options
[05:40] <lee__> and it stos loading at 53 percent
[05:40] <Evanlec> HealthyElijah, Im running virtualbox ... similar thing
[05:40] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, ive used ubuntu since 4.10 (first release) so yea ive used 32 bit
[05:41] <Scunizi> HealthyElijah: I'm running vmware server.
[05:41] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, when/why did u decide to jump to 64?
[05:41] <Innomen> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2992&package_id=2933 <---<can this be made to work on ubuntu? (i have no idea how to compile, but am willing to learn)
[05:41] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, when i got a 64 bit processor :)
[05:41] <HealthyElijah> Scunizi: Are you happy with it?
[05:41] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi : I have no idea what dualbooting is, I think Ubuntu is only on hdd1
[05:41] <Scunizi> HealthyElijah: yes very..
[05:41] <wers> sipior, thanksi!
[05:41] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, lol...ive had one for a while, its an intel tho so its not displayed on the box everywhere
[05:41] <HealthyElijah> Scunizi: I am thinking of getting VMware for my home system
[05:41] <heaven> heguru: yes i did install UDF tools but where do i run it or how do i enable it?
[05:41] <lee__> eh i dc a hdd i don't dual boot
[05:42] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, but ive heard varying opinions about 64-bit ubuntu, some say dont bother, others say how could u not?!?
[05:42] <lee__> so how do i do this net thing?
[05:42] <Innomen> !compile
[05:42] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:42] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. please type gksudo gedit /etc/fstab and then copy and paste the contents to pastebin
[05:42] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, its personal preference, why wouldnt you though, get the most out of the hardware i guess
[05:42] <Scunizi> HealthyElijah: it works good..
[05:43] <MasterShrek> Innomen, sudo apt-get install build-essential   << this will install compilers and stuff for you
[05:43] <lee__> ok ok its an editing thing when working with vids
[05:43] <Innomen> MasterShrek: Thank you :)
[05:43] <heaven> !seen criosoft
[05:43] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, well besides the obvious issues (flash/java) whcih i know can be worked around, there's a lot of other more obscure things i think i'd run into, like Wine for instance, no 64-bit version rite?
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen criosoft - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <heguru> Innomen why do you want to use this software? it looks outdated
[05:43] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40400/
[05:43] <lee__> use one for editng and the other for what ever  use lol
[05:43] <heaven> heguru: yes i did install UDF tools but where do i run it or how do i enable it?
[05:44] <Innomen> heguru: it is the one and only thing that will play voc files, or so it seems
[05:44] <heguru> heaven: do you want to write to UDF or read?
[05:44] <heaven> read
[05:44] <umop-apsidn> anyone got a clue for me? i have a buncha iptables commands (rules), and i want them to run when the system boots. how do i do so?
[05:44] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, no 64 bit version of wine, but u can run the 32 bit, and if u think about it, u wouldnt want a 64 bit version of wine, because it would be like using x64 windows, which i dont know how good that is
[05:44] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. we need to find the uuid of hdb.  Try blkid /dev/hdb
[05:44] <MasterShrek> umop-apsidn, put the commands in: /etc/rc.local
[05:44] <heguru> Innomen: looks like mplayer can do that too
[05:44] <lee__> ohh yes there ios a 64 bit vwesion of wine...this i do know lol
[05:44] <Innomen> heguru: sox claims it will convert and play them but its command line and i'm just opposed to cli software, on principal
[05:45] <npnuf1> I just installed kubuntu 7.10 RC, it stuck at busy box and I used modprobe ide-generic +^D.  Now it is booted.  But the result is sluggish, high Disk Activity Desktop.
[05:45] <Innomen> heguru: let me test
[05:45] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i see, so how hard is it to run 32-bit apps? or is it just a matter of simply running it in 32-bit mode...rather than trying to force it to 64...and theres no real problems?
[05:45] <npnuf1> What can I do to improve my system.
[05:45] <kuch3n> how can i force apt to overwrite existing files?
[05:45] <murlidhar> well there is an application called linkage that i have installed by compiling the source . Now when i start the the application nothing is visible to me except the windows
[05:45] <lee__> the cd ro i have at least boots up and i have seen it
[05:45] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, you run them just as you would any other program
[05:45] <heguru> heaven: cd /media/udf && sudo mount -t udf your.udf /media/udf
[05:45] <MasterShrek> kuch3n, i think it automatically does
[05:45] <heguru> heaven: correction: sudo cd /media/udf && sudo mount -t udf your.udf /media/udf
[05:45] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: doesn't do anything
[05:45] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, really? so any app that doesnt have 64-bit version will run in 32-bit mode no prob?
[05:46] <kuch3n> nope it doesnt, because the file is allready  written by an another package
[05:46] <MasterShrek> yes Evanlec, i have 32 bit firefox installed along with 64 bit, i used to use the 32 bit for flash and java before i had it set up in 64
[05:46] <lee__> well in the gutsy version there is a 64 bit version of wine.. i really seen it
[05:46] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. we'll try it the Dapper way.. hang on.
[05:46] <MasterShrek> lee__, its 32, its maybe in the repos for 64, but its 32 bit wine, there is no 64, im almost positive
[05:46] <Miles> how do i start ubuntu in text mode with no framebuffer or anything?
[05:47] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, and it worked fine? why do i keep hearing that 64-bit isnt "ready" for desktop use yet
[05:47] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: is the drive partitioned and formatted? What type of formatting?
[05:47] <geefinator> Anyone here familiar with ncpfs that could help me with something?
[05:47] <lee__> no the disk that I down loaded had it in it
[05:47] <MasterShrek> Miles, remove 'splash' from your kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:47] <jrib> Miles: there is
[05:47] <Miles> MasterShrek: from a live cd
[05:47] <lee__> it wasnt in to rpos..that I know for sure
[05:47] <Evanlec> Miles, disable gdm in your boot options, you will boot to a tty
[05:47] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, runs fine, just perfect :)
[05:47] <jrib> MasterShrek: there is
[05:47] <Miles> i'm trying to install
[05:47] <heguru> Miles: use the alternate cd
[05:47] <Miles> the machines doesn't have enough ram for x
[05:47] <morryer> Whats the ubuntu command for editing php.ini?
[05:47] <lee__> but your maybe right maybe it is a 32 and they are laoding it onto the system any ways
[05:47] <geefinator> Use the alternate cd Miles.
[05:48] <MasterShrek> Miles, you want ubuntu server then probably
[05:48] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: It should be formatted and partinioned to one ext3 partition (did it with GNOME Partition Editor)
[05:48] <Miles> MasterShrek: it'll start fine from the hard disk
[05:48] <heaven> heguru: sudo: cd: command not found
[05:48] <Miles> when it's installed
[05:48] <jrib> !wine > lee__ (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:48] <lee__> oooops
[05:48] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, bah...methinks i must do 64-bit, but just to make sure, when u have a 32bit app, what do u have to do specifically to run it in 32bit mode?
[05:48] <Miles> i just want to install from a sorta minimal environment
[05:48] <heguru> heaven: my bad its: mkdir /media/udf && sudo mount -t udf your.udf /media/udf
[05:48] <lee__> eh I just reaslised someting
[05:48] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. hang on. I'm going to add a line to your fstab and repaste it to paste bin.
[05:48] <heguru> heaven: add sudo before mkdir
[05:48] <murlidhar> well there is an application called linkage that i have installed by compiling the source . Now when i start the the application nothing is visible to me except the windows
[05:49] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, nothing, they just run
[05:49] <heguru> morryer: sudo nano /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[05:49] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, but you dont want to install a bunch of 32 bit apps, kinda defeats the purpose of running 64 bit os
[05:49] <Miles> is there a nox kernel param or something?
[05:49] <Miles> no?
[05:49] <kuch3n> nobody can help me???
[05:49] <lee__> Its kunbutu lol......ugggg its not ubuntu thats why the difference in look erg
[05:49] <morryer> heguru: Thanks, how do i restart apache 2?
[05:49] <geefinator> What was your question kuch3n?
[05:50] <heguru> morryer: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:50] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, well of course, anything that had 64bit version id use the 64...but i know not everything does
[05:50] <lee__> I thaught something looked off
[05:50] <morryer> heguru: Thanks :)
[05:50] <sipior> murlidhar: is it a java application, by any chance?
[05:50] <lee__> I must have clicked the wrong link for an iso down load
[05:50] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, yea, but you shouldnt have problems loading 32 bit apps in 64
[05:50] <kuch3n> i want to install the package "compiz-extra" while installing there comes the error that a file is allready written by an another package
[05:50] <murlidhar> sipior: no it based gtk++
[05:50] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, interesting, and u were able to hack the flash/java plugins to ur 64bit firefox?
[05:51] <heaven> !seen criosoft
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen criosoft - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <geefinator> lee__:  if you want you can install ubuntu-desktop and get rid of KDE
[05:51] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, yea they run fine
[05:51] <sipior> murlidhar: and no errors at compilation?
[05:51] <MasterShrek> !nspluginwrapper
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <geefinator> !ncpfs
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncpfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <lee__> hmm sure taht will work but how do I do that?
[05:51] <MasterShrek> !info nspluginwrapper
[05:51] <ubotu> Package nspluginwrapper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:51] <murlidhar> sipior: sorry libgtkmm there were warnings
[05:51] <lee__> on the phone with my mom
[05:51] <geefinator> lee__: go to a command line and do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu desktop
[05:51] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, well ubotu doesnt apparently know about it, but its nspluginwrapper
[05:52] <kuch3n> no help for me there?
[05:52] <sipior> murlidhar: fix those, then :)
[05:52] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: just cut and paste the contents into your fstab file and save but leave the editor open. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40401/
[05:52] <Miles> can i not even disable the splash screen? o.o
[05:52] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, interesting, u running gutsy too?
[05:52] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, yes
[05:52] <geefinator> lee__ once you instal you can do sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop.
[05:52] <MasterShrek> !flash64
[05:52] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:52] <murlidhar> sipior: do i have to uninstall it first to fix them?
[05:52] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: done
[05:52] <geefinator> lee__: ah ubuntu desktop should have a hyphen, so ubuntu-desktop.
[05:53] <sipior> murlidhar: i don't know. probably rebuilding and reinstalling would be fine
[05:53] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok now unmount the drive
[05:53] <sipior> kuch3n: does removing the offending package not work?
[05:53] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: now type sudo mount -a
[05:53] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: wait
[05:54] <pjz> anyone know where/how I can get firefox 1.5 to install on my ubuntu box? ( I need it for some backcompat testing)
[05:54] <|dream> hey guys, just installed ubuntu. Internet isn't working. it's wireless. any thoughts?
[05:54] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: when I try to unmount the disk via the GUI it says "Cannot unmount disk. Disk is not mounted"
[05:54] <Scunizi> pjz, Dapper repos
[05:54] <geefinator> |dream: what version of ubuntu did you install?
[05:54] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: Any cmd to do this via the terminal? :P
[05:54] <|dream> geefinator, the beta one
[05:54] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, okay im going to grab the 64-bit gutsy image, last time i tried i couldnt boot to a gui with the 64 livecd so that kinda put me off the 64 thing
[05:54] <skyhook> hi, does anyone know how to set the default sound device?
[05:55] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok.. yep .. sudo mount -a.  for a 1st try.
[05:55] <geefinator> |dream: Ok,  does ubuntu even see your wireless card?
[05:55] <pjz> Scunizi: any way to make multiple firefox versions coexist on one machine?
[05:55] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, good luck :)
[05:55] <Scunizi> pjz, I don't know the answer to that one.
[05:55] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, but i have since upgraded my graphics card to nvidia, so im hoping things will be different
[05:55] <umop-apsidn> i have a buncha iptables commands (firewall rules), and i want them to run when the system boots. how do i do so?
[05:55] <Evanlec> pjz, definitely
[05:55] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: ok, now what?
[05:56] <pjz> Evanlec: how?
[05:56] <heguru> umop-apsidn: are you on dapper or feisty?
[05:56] <juaniv_a> put them then on the file rc.local
[05:56] <Evanlec> pjz, for example swiftfox will run alongside firefox no problem even tho its technically a seperate app
 sudo umount  [path of the mounted disk] 
[05:56] <pjz> Evanlec: right, but I want to be able to run both firefox 2.x and also firefox 1.5
[05:56] <|dream> geefinator, i supopse it does. i type "iwlist" and it shows some stuff, and my chipset "broadcom"
[05:56] <murlidhar> well i did a make check the error show this  and what does this mean ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40402/
[05:56] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: lets see if we can look at the folder.. using the gui go to "places" then "computer" and see if you can locate the drive.
[05:56] <pjz> Evanlec: I suspect that if I just do like a --force-install of firefox it's going to downgrade me
[05:56] <Evanlec> pjz, well im not entirely sure, probly just have to configure it so that they're not installed to the same directories
[05:57] <heguru> umop-apsidn: just use the /usr/share/doc/iptables/examples/oldinitdscript
[05:57] <cit1> anyone sing irssi?
[05:57] <MasterShrek> pjz, install 2.x from the repos, and download 1.5 from mozilla.com
[05:57] <Scunizi> cit1 sometimes
[05:57] <cit1> (in terminal)
[05:57] <pjz> MasterShrek: I can't find where on mozilla.com to download it from :)
[05:57] <geefinator> |dream ah I think there are some issues with Broadcom and 7.10.  One second.
[05:57] <Evanlec> pjz, u dont wanna use apt-get then, download a .deb or maybe even source
[05:57] <pjz> Evanlec: yeah, I figured
[05:57] <cit1> Scunizi: do you use it in terminal?
[05:57] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know how to make the backgrounds of my windows translucent, like the effect terminal has????
[05:58] <CheeseGardener> As in, to make all my windows like that.
[05:58] <Scunizi> cit1: it's a terminal program,  it's also useful to use it with "screen"
[05:58] <umop-apsidn> juaniv_a: i don't think prvmsg is the place for helpful info, k? try explaining it in channel, maybe i won't auto-ignore you
[05:58] <heguru> !compiz | CheeseGardener: you will need compiz,
[05:58] <ubotu> CheeseGardener: you will need compiz,: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:58] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: Says I don't have permission
[05:58] <cit1> Scunizi: I am running with screen, very nice, although how to I connect to a channel on a different server while maintaining my connection in here?
[05:58] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: could u take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40402/
[05:58] <lee__> Ok I go it....I have to meet my mother..her "Windows " is broken
[05:58] <juaniv_a> ok
[05:58] <lee__> lol
[05:58] <Scunizi> cit1: not sure.. sorry.
[05:58] <|dream> geefinator, okay.
[05:59] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! Panic help needed! By some reason the keyboard shortcuts for Sound is gone, and the Sound title isnt expandable... i really want my multimedia linux pc to work as well as possible when the guests arrive in 30 minutes!!! (Im controlling it usin an ATI remote wonder)
[05:59] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ok .. now in a terminal type chmod -R 777 /media/hdb1
[05:59] <geefinator> |dream:  could you pastebin your iwlist for me?
[05:59] <MasterShrek> pjz, i dunno, they must not have it on there anymore
[05:59] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: when i open the application only the window is visible . nothing inside is visible
[05:59] <|dream> geefinator, yes. one second please
[05:59] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: then try again.
[05:59] <lee__> I am going to try to talk her into getting linux..but I need to know can works be read in the text ? can it be translated?
[05:59] <juaniv_a> to put commands on boot, wirte on terminal sudo gedit /etc/rc.local and write your commands there
[05:59] <devasura> ubuntoonoob: do you have permission to use sudo??
[06:00] <MasterShrek> murlidhar, did u run ./configure ?
[06:00] <lee__> well Iam aout a here lol ttyl
[06:00] <ubuntoonoob>  Operation not permitted
[06:00] <ubuntoonoob> chmod: /media/hdb1/lost+found: Permission denied
[06:00] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: yes i was working fine
[06:00] <cit1> lee__: for the love of got keep that woman off linux
[06:00] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: sorry do the same thing again and preface it with sudo
[06:00] <MasterShrek> i dunno murlidhar
[06:01] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: done
[06:01] <geefinator> |dream: Strange, broadcom should be supported in 7.10...
[06:01] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: well ....... i am in a trouble
[06:01] <murlidhar> now
[06:01] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: now use the gui and see if you can open it.. If you can try dragging a small file to it as a write test.
[06:02] <tommygj> does anyone know if valve is going to make a linux-supported version of Steam?
[06:02] <|dream> geefinator, ubuntu is not recognizing my usb pen drive, i can't take the text file to show you >=(
[06:02] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, what do u think, 7.10-rc-alternate-amd64 or 7.10-rc-desktop-amd64 ?
[06:02] <ubuntoonoob> Sunizi: still no permission to open the damn disk
[06:02] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, id go desktop and if it doesnt work use the alternate
[06:02] <Pici> !gutsy
[06:02] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[06:02] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i prefer alternate install but the desktop one will let me know initially about hardware support
[06:02] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: try a blkid again and see if it shows up.
[06:02] <geefinator> |dream hmm, ok.  So does it just have no internet connection when you try to use it?
[06:03] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, gotcha
[06:03] <|dream> geefinator, yes.
[06:03] <|dream> geefinator, youre correct
[06:03] <ubuntoonoob> scunizi: nope
[06:03] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: try a df -h
[06:03] <geefinator> |dream:  What is the actual full card name?
[06:04] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: paste the output of df -h
[06:04] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40403/
[06:04] <|dream> geefinator, one second, i just rebooted.
[06:04] <keito> is there a way to check your HDD's health (ie tell me how many bad sectors I have and if it's about to die) in ubuntu?
[06:04] <geefinator> |dream:  ok.
[06:04] <|dream> geefinator, also, it's a laptop if that makes a difference.
[06:05] <geefinator> |dream:  it shouldnt.
[06:05] <|dream> geefinator, and i have to boot using noapic, acpi=off
[06:05] <devasura> ubuntoonoob: can u also paste output of mount
[06:05] <Evanlec> !info testdisk
[06:05] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[06:05] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: how large is this drive .. 8 gigs?
[06:05] <Evanlec> !info testdisk | keito
[06:05] <ubotu> keito: please see above
[06:05] <igge> when I press the buttons on my touchpad it doesn't "stay pressed", I can't drag anything.. any ideas?
[06:05] <keito> !testdisk
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40404/
[06:05] <Evanlec> igge, your touchpad?
[06:06] <ubuntoonoob> yes, 8GB
[06:06] <DM|> Anyone have an easy prgram to get mouse buttons working?
[06:06] <CheeseGardener> heguru, I already have compiz, I'm on gutsy gibbon already.  So I have compiz fusion.  But I want to make the backgrounds of my windows translucent, with the text being clear.
[06:06] <geefinator> |dream:  ok, when you go to the Restricted Drivers Manager on your computer, is there anything in there for broadcom?
[06:06] <heguru> CheeseGardener: you cannot
[06:06] <Evanlec> DM|, u mean extra ones like side buttons? havent been able to get those working either
[06:06] <keito> Evanlec: cheers 4 the headsup
[06:06] <igge> Evanlec: yes, on my laptop... or actually the buttons below the touchpad
[06:06] <Evanlec> keito, np
[06:06] <heguru> CheeseGardener: you can make the whole window gradually transparent
[06:06] <DM|> Evanlec i had them working perfectly till gutsy borked my xorg
[06:06] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: ya gotta use my nick in responses otherwise your answers get lost in the noise.. ok.. try sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1
[06:06] <TriGz_> Halp! i forgot my windows password :( cant remember the admin one either :'(!
[06:07] <DM|> Evanlec now i cant remember what i had as the xmodmap
[06:07] <igge> Evanlec: using the actual touchpad for pressing and dragging works fine, but not the buttons
[06:07] <heguru> !windows | TriGz_
[06:07] <ubotu> TriGz_: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:07] <Evanlec> igge, ohh i see, most of those touchpads are made by synaptics (not to be confused with the ubuntu package manager)
[06:07] <geefinator> TriGz_:  I don't think anyone can help you here...
[06:07] <TriGz_> Lol, true that heguru :P
[06:07] <Wuzi> hellu
[06:07] <CheeseGardener> heguru, I don't want to whole window transparent, only the background.  Like the effect terminal has, but for my IMs and text windows.
[06:07] <|dream> geefinator, yes, but i cannot enable it
[06:07] <Wuzi> anyone in here got any 1on1 action with the windows installer?
[06:07] <TriGz_> geefinator: i know, but i thought there might be a tech guru in here that might know :P
[06:07] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /media/hdb1
[06:07] <Evanlec> DM|, didnt make a backup of your xorg? u might check if there is a backup copy in the folder
[06:07] <|dream> geefinator, gives me a popup error
[06:07] <heguru> CheeseGardener: you cannot do that
[06:07] <keito> dpkg: failed to open package >>> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) --- sounds like the disk is already dead YIKES!!!
[06:07] <geefinator> |dream:  whats the error say?
[06:07] <igge> Evanlec: ok... so where can I start to look for a solution?
[06:08] <Evanlec> !touchpad | igge
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <|dream> "the software source for the package bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled
[06:08] <CheeseGardener> heguru, oh I thought there was a way... I thought I saw a desktop like that once.
[06:08] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: can I PM you?
[06:08] <devasura> ubuntoonoob: u want to un mount or read the disk?
[06:08] <Evanlec> igge, i'd say ubuntu forums search, look for someones xorg file u can look at
[06:08] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: I dunno, can you?
[06:08] <geefinator> |dream: ok, one second.
[06:08] <|dream> geefinator, i also see my nvidia driver here, which i also cannot enable
[06:08] <DM|> Evanlec i made many, but i was in between backups last time i fixed it : (
[06:08] <igge> Evanlec: ok.. will try that
[06:08] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: do you see a private channel that's opened?
[06:09] <amishninja> Anyone here have experience with using VMWare?
[06:09] <keito> Evanlec: is there any livedisc with that on?
[06:09] <geefinator> |dream:  Ok, have you enabled all of the repositories?
[06:09] <Evanlec> CheeseGardener, you're probably referring to compiz/fusion ...
[06:09] <keito> Evanlec: it won't install as dpkg fails to open package
[06:09] <heguru> Evanlec: no he's not :)
[06:09] <ubuntoonoob> scunizi: no i don't
[06:09] <Evanlec> keito, sudo apt-get install testdisk??
[06:09] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: are you using xchat?
[06:09] <keito> yep
[06:09] <keito> oh
[06:09] <amishninja> Compiz Fusion is so awesome
[06:09] <keito> deart
[06:09] <keito> dear
[06:10] <Evanlec> heguru, well thats the only way to get "true" transparency
[06:10] <|dream> geefinator, not sure i know how.
[06:10] <MasterShrek> amishninja, what about vmware?
[06:10] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: excactly
[06:10] <geefinator> |dream:  System -> Administration -> Software Sources I belive if you are using Gnome.
[06:10] <AoLara> good day
[06:10] <amishninja> Shrek: I'm just wondering how to emulate a second installation of Ubuntu using VMWare.
[06:10] <heguru> Evanlec: well he needs transparent background with contents intact in all applications
[06:10] <keito> Evanlec: thats what I did :0|
[06:10] <SirronTM> I know this is off topic... but are there any danish people here that know how to do an anonymous phone call there? ^^
[06:10] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: look in the box on the left or bottom that shows the channels that you're in.  You should see my nick listed.
[06:10] <|dream> geefinator, ok one second. its booting up
[06:11] <MasterShrek> and just for the record, compiz, compiz fusion, beryl, and all the derivatives, are pointless, wasted hardware resources for people to be like "ooh" and "aww" over an os that is already superior to anything that has cool little visual effects
[06:11] <Evanlec> heguru, yea i see, and so far only gnome-terminal wants to do that properly
[06:11] <Pici> !ot | SirronTM
[06:11] <ubotu> SirronTM: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:11] <amishninja> SirronTM: use IP-relay
[06:11] <Evanlec> keito, are u running off livecd? what was your error output
[06:11] <SirronTM> ok, cheers
[06:11] <geefinator> Agreed totally Mastershrek
[06:11] <keito> Evanlec: had to manually run a load of fsck's during boot time recently after system crashes.  plus my drive goes into read-only mode?!
[06:11] <keito> Evanlec: not a livecd
[06:11] <Gosha> How do I check what kind of RAM i have?
[06:11] <MasterShrek> amishninja, you just need an ubuntu iso or cd, and just load it in vmware, have you used vmware before?
[06:11] <keito> Evanlec: i wondered if there was a livecd with testdisk already on
[06:11] <stiev3> shot in the dark: where would I find the settings files for syntax highlighting in gedit?
[06:11] <Naitse> some one knows how to put a screensaver or a video as wallpapper?
[06:11] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: do you see it?
[06:12] <keito> Evanlec: I'm 99.9% sure my disk is f**k*d
[06:12] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, im gonna have to disagree somewhat with you on that, compizfusion while mostly eyecandy, DOES give added functionality and features for accessibility
[06:12] <|dream> geefinator, alright. i see a bunch of options here. check them all?
[06:12] <amishninja> Shrek: Compiz Fusion does have pointless visual effects, but I actually do find parts of it to be useful, so I disagree partly on that
[06:12] <pike_> stiev3: /etc? :) actually its prob in .gconf or soemthing
[06:12] <geefinator> |dream: yep.
[06:12] <ubuntoonoob> scunizi : no, but i opened one myself
[06:12] <amishninja> Shrek: yes but it was a long time ago
[06:12] <Evanlec> keito, im not sure about a livecd with testdisk already on it
[06:12] <Naitse> i read a lot of threads but does not work
[06:13] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: by clicking on my nick and choosing private chat or Dcc chat?
[06:13] <heguru> stiev3: /usr/share/gedit-2/taglist
[06:13] <geefinator> |dream:  After you do that it should tell you it needs to reload.  After it is done, see if you can enable the drivers.
[06:13] <MasterShrek> a wobbly window, or a desktop on a cube is not really useful, although cool to look at, its pointless
[06:13] <|dream> geefinator, yea i got that
[06:13] <keito> Evanlec: don't think I need the confirmation now as I'm resigned to the fact I need a new HDD & Power Supply
[06:13] <|dream> geefinator, but it also says i need an internet connectionf or that'
[06:14] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, there are a whole buncha other things tho, in particular the zoom plug-in, helpful for ppl with vision problems obviously, but also quite useful if im on my bed with wireless keyboard
[06:14] <geefinator> |dream ah crap, i forgot lol.  Is there any way you can wire it?
[06:14] <amishninja> MasterShrek: The cube desktop is awesome to look at; If you're gonna switch around you desktops you might as well have it set up like that if your computer can handle it. Eye of the beholder and all. Aside from that, the window scaling is useful.
[06:14] <ubuntoonoob> Scunizi: I am sorry to disappoint you, but I have to go now. Maybe I'll cu later, bye. And thanks for the help anyway
[06:14] <Evanlec> keito, you can test for bad sectors with any windows disk too i believe
[06:14] <MasterShrek> if u want visual effects use vista =P
[06:14] <Evanlec> keito, might also wanna try super grub disk
[06:14] <|dream> geefinator, i can try. give me a sec. gotta take it to where the router is
[06:14] <amishninja> Lol. Vista is behind both mac and linux in terms of visual effects, though.
[06:14] <geefinator> |dream:  Ok.
[06:14] <gustavonarea> Hi. Just a dump question: I have a 64-bit computer, but I don't want to face problems with a 64-bit distro (flash, among others)... So, may I install a 32-bit distro under a 64-bit computer?
[06:14] <Scunizi> ubuntoonoob: good luck.. :)
[06:15] <heguru> gustavonarea: you can do that
[06:15] <MasterShrek> gustavonarea, of course, it probably came with a 32 bit os on it
[06:15] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, vista's visual effects are SAD compared to compiz
[06:15] <remarK-> that vista comment made me giggle a bit.
[06:15] <amishninja>  /agree evanlec
[06:15] <devasura> gustavonarea: ya i installed 32 bit one
[06:15] <keito> Evanlec: I think its the power supply that is knackering these disk's as this is the 3rd one in 1 year (though one got sent back and returned which is probably the same one zero-filled and sent back to me)
[06:15] <gustavonarea> oh, okay, thank you, !
[06:15] <Stormx2> remarK-: Why? it's absolutely correct.
[06:15] <genii> Interesting. Dell Sales tells me they are going from 7.04 to 8.04 but here says different: http://techiqmag.com/2007/10/08/dell-preps-for-next-linux-desktop-release/
[06:15] <MasterShrek> yea i know Evanlec im just kinda trolling, but i still think compiz is not worth the hassle of having your xserver crash every couple hours
[06:15] <skyhook> hi, does anyone know how to set the default sound device?
[06:15] <remarK-> The part where vista is graphically better than mac and linux?
[06:15] <remarK-> that is correct?
[06:16] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, well some ppl have hard time with it, i did too with ATI card, i got an nvidia card and have had 0 problems
[06:16] <MasterShrek> not at all remarK-
[06:16] <amishninja> If your X server is crashing every couple of hours then that's a problem on your end...
[06:16] <keito> vista graphically better than linux LMAOROFL
[06:16] <remarK-> i didn't think so either.
[06:16] <Evanlec> remarK-, no way
[06:16] <|dream> geefinator, alright its downstairs. it worked for the Nvidia, but not broadcom
[06:16] <remarK-> which is why i giggled, a lot.
[06:16] <amishninja> I have a totally worthless vid card and it runs fine for me *shrug*
[06:16] <CheeseGardener> Evanlec, is compiz fusion able to make the window backgrounds transparent while keeping the text at 100% opacity?
[06:16] <keito> that is some funny shizzle
[06:16] <geefinator> |dream:  That is real strange.  You may need to get the driver from broadcom.  Other than that I am out of ideas.
[06:16] <keito> vista is like a stain on your pc
[06:17] <remarK-> ha.
[06:17] <Evanlec> CheeseGardener, i wanna say no, but there might be a way to do that, there's a LOT of plug-ins/options in it
[06:17] <keito> wipe and clean
[06:17] <nickrud> skyhook: asoundconf list to get a list, asoundconf set-default-card <card> to set
[06:17] <|dream> geefinator, alright. ill give it a shot. thanks for all the help! :)
[06:17] <MasterShrek> |dream, what kind of card is it?
[06:17] <geefinator> |dream:  you are welcome :)
[06:17] <MasterShrek> 43xx?
[06:17] <craig> www.chata-aussie.com :P
[06:17] <keito> !offtopic | craig
[06:17] <ubotu> craig: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:17] <tuxcrafter> how do i create a list of installed packages that are larger than 2 MB?
[06:17] <geefinator> MasterShrek, yeah thats the card he has.
[06:18] <Evanlec> heguru, it does have useful interface improvements, i'll admit i dont use em that much, but nevertheless they are not all just for effects
[06:18] <foug> is there a list of problems that are in 7.10 atm, unfixed ones?
[06:18] <MasterShrek> geefinator, how were u trying to set it up, sorry i wasnt paying attention, ndiswrapper?
[06:18] <MasterShrek> foug, not really, its more case-by-case i guess,but so far 7.10 seems very stable to me
[06:18] <heguru> Evanlec: if its usability vs stability/performance atm compiz sucks
[06:18] <skyhook> nickrud: thanks!
[06:18] <Evanlec> heguru, and really for eyecandy it blows Vista out of the water, which i think is impressive for an OS thats not designed for flashyness
[06:18] <geefinator> MasterShrek, well no, I was just seeing if he could use the restricted driver manager since he is using 7.10
[06:18] <MasterShrek> ah
[06:18] <remarK-> foug, you'll find more support/info in #ubuntu+1
[06:18] <|dream> MasterShrek, broadcom 4311
[06:19] <foug> MasterShrek: good to hear, i'm interesting in switching now :)
[06:19] <geefinator> MasterShrek,  I have never messed with ndiswrapper
[06:19] <foug> remarK-: ok thank you
[06:19] <keito> cheers guys, adios
[06:19] <remarK-> foug: no problem.
[06:19] <MasterShrek> |dream, thats the card i have, ill help u set it up
[06:19] <Evanlec> heguru, well i think it really depends on hardware/configuration/environment , for some people like me its pretty damn stable, for others not so much
[06:19] <|dream> MasterShrek, thank you so much
[06:20] <MasterShrek> |dream, http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv  get the file there and extract it to /lib/firmware
[06:20] <|dream> MasterShrek, not sure i have much time though, i have a job interview soon =(
[06:20] <MasterShrek> |dream, it will only take 3 minutes
[06:20] <MasterShrek> at most
[06:20] <heguru> Evanlec: if a software's stability differs from machine to machine then it is unstable :)
[06:20] <Evanlec> heguru, and as far as performance is concerned, i think its silly if you have a powerful 3d card that u only take advantage of when you're playing games, so in that way you're not losing performance because its hardware accelerated, your gfx card is doing most of the work
[06:20] <MasterShrek> if i was there id do it in 30 seconds lol
[06:20] <|dream> MasterShrek, alright. one problem though, ubuntu is not recognizing my usb pen drives when i insert the
[06:21] <Evanlec> heguru, okay well perhaps, im not as familiar with the term "unstable" but i guess that makes sense
[06:21] <stiev3> heguru: /usr/share/gedit-2/taglist has 4 foo.tags.gz collections, the gedit color settings are contained within?
[06:21] <MasterShrek> |dream, that could be something completely different, can u get online with ubuntu using wired?
[06:21] <|dream> MasterShrek, yes i know it's different, but its the only way i can trasnfer the driver over there. and yes, i can get online if i hook up the wire
[06:22] <heguru> stiev3: it contains tags and keywords that are highlighted
[06:22] <devasura> |dream: if you can post the o/p of dmesg
[06:22] <MasterShrek> |dream, hook up the wire, download that file and thats all youll need
[06:22] <MasterShrek> |dream, just change to the directory where u download that file then run: tar -xjvf bcm4311_firmware.tar.bz2 && sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware
[06:22] <AoLara> sorry exist in ubuntu a similar directory "/etc/X11/Xmodmap"
[06:22] <AoLara> i have problem to mapping a lcd crt switcher
[06:23] <INTit> :(
[06:23] <INTit> lost my usb
[06:23] <MasterShrek> AoLara, i made a file ~/.Xmodmap  and use xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[06:23] <mrec> hi, kdb is included in the gutsy kernel isn't it?
[06:23] <Scunizi> !mp3
[06:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:24] <devasura> INTit: I lost mine too
[06:24] <devasura> INTit: cheer up
[06:24] <McTw1st> got a question about ubuntu and games i wonder if Stepmania runs under ubuntu and warcraft 3 frozen throne if they will even run under ubuntu and if i need wine?
[06:25] <MasterShrek> McTw1st, youll definately need wine, they should run
[06:25] <WJIRC-Test> course ya need wine
[06:25] <Baikonur> when you need wine, you should run
[06:26] <McTw1st> i know ther is another win emu program out there just dont remember what its called
[06:26] <MasterShrek> cedega
[06:26] <|dream> MasterRa, ok, extracted
[06:26] <McTw1st> thats it
[06:26] <WJIRC-Test> cedega is just a cheap rip off of wine
[06:26] <Chriswaterguy> I'm finding that Xubuntu is taking a lot of fiddling - a lot of things don't work without serious messing around. I'll do what I need to learn Linux, but if there's a smoother distro, I'll switch. QUESTION: Should I upgrade to Gutsy, switch to Ubuntu Gutsy (with Gnome), or switch to a different distro (OpenSuse sounds good). Suggestions?
[06:26] <MasterShrek> |dream, did u run the other command? sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware
[06:26] <|dream> devasura, i can, one second
[06:26] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, kubuntu
[06:27] <|dream> MasterShrek, no i will now.
[06:27] <McTw1st> what would u chose if u want StepMania and WC3 To work? cedega or wine?
[06:27] <MasterShrek> |dream, then sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[06:27] <MasterShrek> McTw1st, cedega, but u have to pay for it, so i never use it lol
[06:27] <remarK-> Chriswaterguy: I found ubuntu (gnome) to be pretty intuitive. Maybe give that a go on the gutsy release?
[06:27] <AstroBlack> anyone know any good education resources for easily learning how to use ubuntu ?
[06:27] <|dream> MasterShrek, The extracted files are in a folder called broadcom inside the folder firmwae
[06:28] <WJIRC-Test> wine works fine for most games
[06:28] <MasterShrek> |dream, i dont think the can be, i have mine just in /lib/firmware
[06:28] <genii> Chriswaterguy: since underneath the window managers, the core parts are the same. If you have some issue on xubuntu (unrelated specifically to window manager) same issue will exist also on kubuntu or regular ubuntu (gnome)
[06:28] <TheRepacker> I've been running Gutsy since tribe 2, been very stable
[06:28] <abadtooth> Hey everyone
[06:28] <|dream> MasterShrek, all the files scattered inside that folder?
[06:28] <Chriswaterguy> remarK: intuitive for a geek...? a lot of what Linux people call easy is actually not clearly explained at all.
[06:28] <MasterShrek> |dream, yes, thats what i use, i dont know if they can be in a subfolder or not
[06:28] <BrianMH> Hi again.  Having problems.  Earlier tried to install on laptop and it froze at hardware install.  That was on my second hard disk.  Now I am trying again but the disk isn't showing up at all.
[06:28] <McTw1st> wine isnt that free? =)
[06:29] <MasterShrek> McTw1st, yes
[06:29] <WJIRC-Test> yes
[06:29] <McTw1st> everything thats free is fine by me :P
[06:29] <WJIRC-Test> almost all linux software is free
[06:29] <McTw1st> well in this internet era were living in everything is free in some way
[06:29] <remarK-> Christwaterguy: I wouldn't call myself a geek except for the area of gaming. I couldn't tell you anything really like these guys can. Just giving you a little tip that seemed to work for me.
[06:29] <AstroBlack> i mean easy - i'm a new user and am used to using Windows OS
[06:29] <Chriswaterguy> In Xubuntu, I've had stuff like Trash not working (and didn't find out till I deleted hundreds of photos accidentally due to a touchpad glitch - thankfully I have backups, though some are on a CD in another country)
[06:29] <|dream> MasterShrek, alright. another thing, inside the firmware folder, there was already a file named bcm43xx_microcode11.fw
[06:29] <heguru> McTw1st: wine is free, cedega is not, cedega is wine customized to run win32 games
[06:29] <MasterShrek> |dream, overwrite it
[06:30] <abadtooth> I have a question, I can't boot 7.10 off the cd without going into the shell and typing "sudo startx" but I want to install it... there doesn't appear to be an option to install anywhere. thanks.
[06:30] <AoLara> thank MasterShrek..
[06:30] <Chriswaterguy> remarK: okay thanks. I think you're right, Ubuntu is a bit more intuitive than Xubuntu.
[06:30] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, ive never used xubuntu, but it seems a little too dumbed down
[06:30] <WJIRC-Test> cedega really isn't even much better anymore. as far as i know they have no progress on DX10 reproduction/etc
[06:30] <heguru> abadtooth: asking in #ubuntu+1
[06:30] <MasterShrek> AoLara, for what?
[06:30] <McTw1st> heguru so if u just extract the source code from cedega and rewrite wine ul get the same thing? ^^
[06:30] <heguru> *ask
[06:30] <abadtooth> heguru: okay. thanks.
[06:30] <amishninja> As far as user-friendliness in Linux goes, Ubuntu is up there.
[06:30] <WJIRC-Test> cedega isn't open source, far as i know
[06:30] <MasterShrek> cedega is not open source
[06:30] <McTw1st> ah
[06:30] <McTw1st> ok :)
[06:31] <remarK-> I mean, if dell users are trusted to use ubuntu, I'm sure it can't be THAT bad. :P
[06:31] <heguru> McTw1st: yes
[06:31] <BrianMH> any idea why my second hard disk is now missing when it showed up and I could install on it earlier?
[06:31] <amishninja> Hahaha
[06:31] <WJIRC-Test> lmao, exactly remarK
[06:31] <tag> anyone use TKIP with ubuntu?
[06:31] <negluf> Hi all, hola a todos.
[06:31] <|dream> MasterShrek, what does sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware do?
[06:31] <heguru> MasterShrek: cedega does publish modified wine that it uses
[06:31] <amishninja> Are you serious, Dell users using Ubuntu? I wouldn't go that far...
[06:31] <remarK-> Uh...
[06:31] <MasterShrek> |dream, it would move all of the extracted files to /lib/firmware
[06:31] <WJIRC-Test> dell.com
[06:31] <remarK-> it's being pre-loaded onto Dell comps as we speak.
[06:31] <WJIRC-Test> go "build" a new computer
[06:31] <amishninja> It is...?
[06:31] <AoLara> MasterShrek because on ubuntu-it i have not an answer
[06:31] <|dream> MasterShrek, ok theyre already there
[06:31] <remarK-> Yes sir.
[06:32] <amishninja> Well, I don't keep up on my Ubuntu geek news, sorry!
[06:32] <MasterShrek> |dream, now sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[06:32] <McTw1st> om testing the windows installer to see if it works any good
[06:32] <McTw1st> im*
[06:32] <|dream> MasterShrek, ok i did the modprobe
[06:32] <MasterShrek> |dream, did the led for your wifi card come on? if u have one?
[06:32] <remarK-> Hehe. No worries. My knowledge is extremely limited. I'm just a news junkie.
[06:32] <MasterShrek> |dream, type: sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[06:32] <|dream> MasterShrek, i don't know. its a laptop, it's internel
[06:32] <MasterShrek> that will scan for networks
[06:32] <MasterShrek> oh
[06:32] <MasterShrek> well, try that scan command |dream
[06:33] <amishninja> It's cool... I like calling people dumb and then telling them to open up a science book to look up something obscure that the average person shouldn't know
[06:33] <Chriswaterguy> MasterShrek: Is switching to Kubuntu likely to make much diff for stuff like the Trash glitches, and problems with sound and video often not working on my laptop?
[06:33] <amishninja> ... not really. but uh... yeah, that's cool.
[06:33] <stiev3> heguru, I see, so in order to alter my highlighting colors I'd have to overwrite these collections.  Is it common to find different templates in these formats on the net?
[06:33] <|dream> MasterShrek, says "no scan results"
[06:33] <Chriswaterguy> Or is genii right - basic probs will be the same?
[06:33] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, im guessing yes, those seem like xfce problems, but i could be wrong
[06:34] <MasterShrek> |dream, you may need to reboot so it picks up on some things, but it should be workign after that
[06:34] <Chriswaterguy> MasterShrek: ok, including sound & vid?
[06:34] <negluf> Someone who can to say me a channel of help?
[06:34] <genii> Chriswaterguy: By underlying problems i mean things like hardware not setting up correctly etc.
[06:34] <heguru> stiev3: I guess so, never needed to add anything to it myself
[06:34] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, well sound is run by artsd in kde, so it may work, it may not, its hard to say, depends on your hardware and software setup i guess
[06:34] <MasterShrek> negluf, help for what?
[06:34] <heguru> negluf: help with what?
[06:35] <twisties> !samba
[06:35] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:35] <|dream> MasterShrek, alright will try
[06:35] <negluf> i need to find a file in my ubuntu lol
[06:35] <Chriswaterguy> MasterShrek: I've got a Lenovo Thinkpad - which should be easy to setup with Linux.
[06:35] <MasterShrek> locate filename
[06:35] <heguru> negluf: locate filename
[06:35] <negluf> yes yes.. i dont know the filename
[06:35] <MasterShrek> negluf, then you are in trouble
[06:36] <negluf> is a personal certificate
[06:36] <PipHog> typical ubuntu problems
[06:36] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, well i would give ubuntu or kubuntu a try, xubuntu is realy only for slow systems
[06:36] <negluf> thanks piphop
[06:36] <twisties> anyone have any idea why my windows workgroup "WORKGROUP" is not being seen in feisty?
[06:36] <MasterShrek> !tab | negluf
[06:36] <ubotu> negluf: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:36] <twisties> I want to access my shared folders
[06:36] <user934> How can i modify my screen resolution .. currently it only allows up to 1024x768
[06:36] <MasterShrek> !resolution
[06:36] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:36] <Chriswaterguy> MasterShrek: I liked the idea of super-speed, but I'm getting too many hassles :)
[06:37] <user934> I am looking for 1125x768 I think.
[06:37] <twisties> user934: what size monitor do you have?
[06:37] <user934> 15 inch LCD.
[06:37] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, you can get good speed in ubuntu or kubuntu, you just have to know how :)
[06:37] <Chriswaterguy> genii: I guess that includes hardware not working consistently. Do you have suggestions for a distro that would give less hassles?
[06:37] <twisties> 1024x768 is the highest / native res
[06:37] <user934> no 17 inch actually ;-)
[06:37] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, u know a way to get xchat to bind a key to insert the nick of the last person u talked to? i know Konversation can do this
[06:37] <twisties> you can go any bigger
[06:37] <twisties> oh
[06:37] <xload> hello, my ubuntu resets after uncompress the kernel, con somebody help me???????????????
[06:37] <krabador> hi, people, someone can help me with an hd choice?
[06:37] <twisties> then 1280x1024 is the highest
[06:37] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, no idea
[06:37] <user934> er.. thats widescreen
[06:37] <twisties> is it a 4:3 or 16:10 ratio?
[06:37] <Evanlec> Chriswaterguy, ubuntu has some of the best hardware support of any distro
[06:38] <user934> my monitor is 4:3
[06:38] <Chriswaterguy> MasterShrek: I'm willing to spend a couple of hours tweaking, but I'd like to know which are the approved, safe tweaks. (and if they're approved and safe... why aren't they the default?)
[06:38] <twisties> 1280x1024 is 4:3
[06:38] <user934> It auto detected last time..
[06:38] <user934> now its not working
[06:38] <twisties> and is the largest res on a 17inch
[06:38] <remarK-> Chriswaterguy, I would go for Ubuntu also.
[06:38] <|dream> devasura, here is my dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/734331
[06:38] <MasterShrek> Chriswaterguy, its all user preference
[06:38] <user934> 1280x1024 is 16:9 im pretty sure
[06:38] <twisties> no
[06:38] <twisties> im VERY sure
[06:38] <twisties> it IS 4:3
[06:38] <heguru> user934: no its not
[06:38] <MasterShrek> i gotta run, time for class...
[06:38] <twisties> im using it right now
[06:38] <heguru> MasterShrek: bye :)
[06:39] <Evanlec> Chriswaterguy, try out the livecd, its likely that you can boot to a desktop and all of your hardware will work out of the box
[06:39] <MasterShrek> goodbye all you penguins :)
[06:39] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, lates ;p
[06:39] <user934> But can my monitor do 1125x768?
[06:39] <negluf> So someone knows where ubuntu install the personals certificates? i want to do a secur copy.
[06:39] <user934> what do i edit with nano
[06:39] <genii> Chriswaterguy: Your laptop may be listed in here as far as someone testing it or known issues with ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam  Other decent distributions are Damn Small Linux, PuppyLinux, Knoppix
[06:39] <WJIRC-Test> actually 1280x1024 is 5:4
[06:39] <WJIRC-Test> 1280x960 is 4:3
[06:39] <user934> i remember something like X11/etc/xorg.conf
[06:39] <user934> is that right?
[06:39] <heguru> negluf: personal certificates for what application?
[06:39] <twisties> is 1125x768 some weird widescreen res?
[06:39] <Chriswaterguy> Evanlec: Boot to a desktop?
[06:39] <negluf> mozzilla
[06:40] <WJIRC-Test> 1280x800 is 16:9
[06:40] <user934> oh
[06:40] <user934> my misteak
[06:40] <WJIRC-Test> 1024x768 is 4:3 so 1125 would be probably 5:4
[06:40] <negluf> heguru firefox
[06:40] <Evanlec> Chriswaterguy, yes, the ubuntu livecd boots you to the ubuntu desktop, albeit its running off the CD but its still close to what you'd experience had you installed ubuntu
[06:40] <Chriswaterguy> genii: Tried puppy, seemed super-bare and a bit unstable.
[06:40] <twisties> basically user934. the res you want to aim for is 1280x1024
[06:40] <user934> yes 5:4
[06:40] <twisties> unless you are blind and cant read it at that high
[06:40] <user934> can i edit that in
[06:40] <twisties> then go for something smaller
[06:40] <user934> because currently ubuntu only gives me 3 options
[06:41] <WJIRC-Test> 1280x1024 is a nice balanced resolution which is native for most LCDs but 1280x960 has more software support
[06:41] <Chriswaterguy> Evanlec: ah, *that* desktop :)
[06:41] <amishninja> Speaking of res... does anyone have experience tweaking resolution under Feisty?
[06:41] <Evanlec> Chriswaterguy, yea, that one
[06:41] <genii> Chriswaterguy: At http://distrowatch.com        you can see quite a few distributions listed by popular ranking
[06:41] <negluf> or where can i get help..
[06:42] <Evanlec> !resolution | amishninja
[06:42] <ubotu> amishninja: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:42] <devasura> |dream,  whats the size of ur usb disk??
[06:42] <heguru> negluf: firefox certificates are stored in an internal certificate database, you can view installed certs by viewing preferences -> Advanced -> Encryption -> view certificates
[06:42] <amishninja> ubotu: thank you.
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <negluf> ok wait
[06:42] <|dream> devasura, 120mb. i rebooted with it in and it recognized it though
[06:42] <amishninja> oh, he's a bot...
[06:43] <Azzkikr> lol
[06:43] <Evanlec> yes amishninja
[06:43] <amishninja> hahaha
[06:43] <devasura> |dream,  so no problem now!!!
[06:43] <Evanlec> its okay you're not the first one to thank ubotu
[06:43] <heguru> ubotu your brain sucks
[06:43] <amishninja> I guess that's why he has "bot" in the name
[06:43] <Evanlec> some people try to have conversations with ubotu lol
[06:43] <Chriswaterguy> genii: thanks for the links
[06:43] <amishninja> durrrr!
[06:43] <psnak> does anyone know how to restore /dev/null?
[06:43] <Badpenguin86> Appr. how much do I need to download to update my system to gutsy when it comes out?
[06:43] <negluf> yomismo?
[06:43] <|dream> devasura, hoorah !!!
[06:44] <Azzkikr> Badpenguin86: probably by a sudo apt-get dist upgrade, but not sure
[06:44] <Evanlec> !gutsy | Badpenguin86
[06:44] <ubotu> Badpenguin86: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[06:44] <Chriswaterguy> Ubotu: the way you talk is turning me on
[06:44] <Evanlec> lol
[06:44] <[mayh3m] pt> Chriswaterguy, the way you talk is turning me on.
[06:44] <Pici> psnak: check out the manpage for makedev  I dont know the exact syntax.
[06:45] <Evanlec> haha
[06:45] <devasura> |dream,  in dmesg you can see the problems if any realated to usb?? u have to search through it though!!
[06:45] <heguru> [mayh3m] pt: Chriswaterguy: the way you two are talking is making me send the !ot message
[06:45] <heguru> !ot
[06:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:46] <Chriswaterguy> sorry!
[06:46] <|dream> devasura, gotcha. thanks for the tip. im new to linux =[
[06:46] <Evanlec> Chriswaterguy, its okay, heguru spends too much time in here ;p
[06:46] <genii> Badpenguin86: I've done it 3 times now and somewhere around 500Mb seems average from Feisty to Gutsy
[06:46] <cyrano> Hi. I need help. I run thunderbird under ubuntu. After updating my inbox was suddenly empty. Still, my inbox file in .thunderbird folder is still 2.6 GB... and growing when i start to download new mails from my inbox. Its a lot of mail i can't access anymore. please help
[06:46] <negluf> heguru in what aplication? in firefox? preferences -> Advanced -> Encryption -> view certificates
[06:47] <[mayh3m] pt> Chriswaterguy: So you wanna come back to my channel? Maybe have a few drinks, and do stuff we'll regret the next morning?
[06:47] <heguru> negluf: in firefox, click at Edit menu then preferences
[06:47] <devasura> |dream,  I too was a few months ago!! Have patience, one u learn u will get to like it!!!
[06:48] <Evanlec> cyrano, 2.6GB of EMAIL? good god man
[06:48] <cyrano> :P
[06:48] <Evanlec> youve got more than a spam problem lol
[06:48] <cyrano> i don't wanna loose it. Its backup from a couple of gmail accounts
[06:48] <|dream> devasura, im sure :D
[06:49] <cyrano> i got 40k mail excluding spam. But i do not want to lose it all. lot of it is important
[06:49] <|dream> 
[06:49] <Evanlec> cyrano, you know im not sure how to access old mailboxes, i never understood how an email was stored as a file...id suspect under thunderbird try the import option
[06:49] <heguru> cyrano: thunderbird Inbox file is just a normal mailbox format file, you can mv it to .bak and touch Inbox
[06:49] <user934> ????????/
[06:50] <Pici> cyrano: I believe that thunderbird2's information is in a .thunderbird2/ directory.
[06:50] <Evanlec> heguru, what does "touch" do again? lol
[06:50] <namiwawa> any help with windows emulator installation
[06:50] <Azzkikr> man touch
[06:50] <Evanlec> righto
[06:50] <Chriswaterguy> [mayh3m] pt:man... what an invite... but I've already talked dirty with one person this evening. And I'm pretty sure that was someone of my preferred gender :D. Okay, gotta go work and stop annoying people. Thanks people - and I'll be back!
[06:50] <devasura> Evanlec,  it creates an empty file
[06:50] <Azzkikr> basically, it 'touches' a file. If the file does not exist, it is created
[06:50] <Azzkikr> if the file exists, the date-timestamp is updated.
[06:50] <Evanlec> devasura, why would u want to do that in this case?
[06:51] <cyrano> ok... but how do i touch?
[06:51] <devasura> Evanlec,  i havent followed all ur questions before!!
[06:51] <heguru> Evanlec: he can move the Inbox to .bak and touch Inbox to create a blank Inbox, all his old email will stay in Inbox and he can view them using mutt or even a text editor
[06:51] <heguru> Evanlec: s/stay in Inbox/stay in Inbox.bak
[06:52] <Evanlec> heguru, sounds like he would rather use thunderbird tho
[06:52] <cyrano> so you are saying i can import my inbox file... to show the e-mails
[06:52] <cyrano> ??
[06:52] <cyrano> i'm not familiar with this so i would need some specific instructions
[06:52] <theDtTvB2> Hello, how do I turn off gnome-panel?
[06:52] <heguru> cyrano: you mentioned that you Thunderbird is showing blank inbox? With a 2.6GB Inbox, I am suggesting you move it to .bak and create a new blank inbox with touch
[06:52] <sense> turn off ??
[06:53] <cyrano> what is touch?
[06:53] <Evanlec> im suggesting you relax with the e-mails, 2.6gb ... is ridiculous lol
[06:53] <heguru> cyrano: hm, it creates an empty file
[06:53] <UbuntuGuy> just upgraded to gutsy, trying desktop effects. tells me "can't enable". i180 cihipset, tried both i8109 and intel drivers.  What can I do?
[06:53] <theDtTvB2> Yeah.
[06:53] <theDtTvB2> Looks like gnome-panel forces at least one panel to be on the screen.
[06:53] <UbuntuGuy> s/8109/810/
[06:53] <coco> hi
[06:54] <cyrano> heguru: but how do i "touch" ehat button or terminal command do i do?
[06:54] <theDtTvB2> I want to turn it off. What should I do?
[06:54] <heguru> cyrano: its a terminal command: type touch Inbox
[06:54] <coco> how can i install a ATI X1900 driver
[06:54] <heguru> !ati | coco
[06:54] <ubotu> coco: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:54] <cyrano> but first move the inbox to .bak
[06:54] <heguru> cyrano: yes
[06:55] <genii> UbuntuGuy: comment out any DRI settings in xorg.conf
[06:55] <cyrano> so. step by step: I rename my inbox file "inbox.bak"
[06:55] <cyrano> access .mozilla-thunderbird folder through terminal and type "touch inbox"??
[06:55] <UbuntuGuy> genii including Section DRI?
[06:56] <genii> UbuntuGuy: You may also need to add a section for Composite Extension in there if it doesn't exist already
[06:56] <efx2k3> hey guys i am abs. a noob at linux... how do i install a program that comes in a tar.gz file?
[06:56] <heguru> cyrano: yes absolutely, you can try accessing your Inbox.bak by typing mutt -f Inbox.bak at the terminal
[06:56] <genii> UbuntuGuy: Yes, including section DRI in its entirety
[06:56] <UbuntuGuy> genii: Oh, so how do you do that?
[06:56] <nickrud> efx2k3: what program?
[06:56] <orionr> if i install ubuntu server edition is there a gui with that by default?
[06:56] <UbuntuGuy> genii: composite section I mean
[06:56] <genii> UbuntuGuy: One moment i'll find you a link of what to add
[06:57] <nickrud> efx2k3: it'll depend on what's in that tar.gz
[06:57] <efx2k3> just anything in general b/c ive tried to download many things and they all come in tar.gz files
[06:57] <cyrano> i really don't feel sure if i've udnerstood....
[06:57] <efx2k3> oh
[06:57] <heguru> efx2k3: usually sources come in tar.gz you have to compile them
[06:57] <efx2k3> what is the most used way?
[06:57] <efx2k3> ok using the terminal?>
[06:57] <nickrud> efx2k3: usually you'd look for the same package in the synaptic package manager and install it that way
[06:57] <heguru> efx2k3: you should use System -> Administration -> Synaptic to search and install most programs
[06:57] <bankster> Hi
[06:57] <Pici> efx2k3: What program?
[06:57] <heguru> !hi | bankster
[06:57] <ubotu> bankster: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:57] <espenel> interest
[06:57] <efx2k3> ok cool
[06:57] <Stormx2> dhcp-helper: cannot bind DHCP server socket: Address already in use <--- i need to find out which port this is, and what is using it. Any suggestions?
[06:57] <efx2k3> well some things i need is a dc++ client
[06:58] <spartan> How do I install a VNC viewer in Xubuntu?
[06:58] <Pici> !p2p > efx2k3 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[06:58] <nickrud> efx2k3: search in synaptic for the it, there are several
[06:58] <efx2k3> c and java compilers and development software
[06:58] <orionr> spartan: search for it apt-cache search vncviewer
[06:58] <Pici> !software > efx2k3 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[06:58] <nickrud> efx2k3: all there. synaptic is your one stop source for nearly all software
[06:58] <orionr> does anyone know if i install ubuntu server edition if that has  a gui by default?
[06:58] <Evanlec> synaptic will make your life better ;)
[06:59] <heguru> Stormx2: dhcp-server uses udp port 67, this message means dhcp is already running
[06:59] <efx2k3> ok is it the add/remove thing in ubuntu?
[06:59] <Pici> orionr: No.
[06:59] <heguru> Stormx2: or something else is running on udp port 67
[06:59] <spartan> I mean: How do I install VNC as host on Xubuntu?
[06:59] <orionr> Does anyone know what the best way to secure a computer from brute fore ssh attacks?
[06:59] <bankster> de kub
[06:59] <nickrud> efx2k3: that's a subset of what's available, there's nearly 8000 software packages available in synaptic
[06:59] <src> hello
[06:59] <theDtTvB2> How to stop gnome-panel from launching automatically on login?
[06:59] <Pici> efx2k3: Either the Synpatic Package Manager from System>administration or Add remove programs from Applications (this will probably be easier for you)
[06:59] <Evanlec> efx2k3, thats the "dumbed down" version of synaptic, u can use that but its limited, synaptic is more powerful
[07:00] <heguru> spartan: if you're using gnome and want to share your logged on sessions then just goto System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[07:00] <bankster> Im from Thailand
[07:00] <[mayh3m] pt> How do I install automatix?
[07:00] <cyrano> heguru: ok now i touched the inbox and nothing happened...
[07:00] <bankster> just install  it
[07:00] <efx2k3> thanks guys! :)
[07:00] <heguru> !automatix
[07:00] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:00] <theDtTvB2> bankster: #ubuntu-th ?
[07:00] <bankster> http://www.getautomatix.org
[07:00] <nickrud> [mayh3m] pt: with tongs and not on any machine you want to upgrade later
[07:00] <keito7812> HELP!!!! my drive wont mount and now at boot I get a black srceen telling me initramfs I loaded a livecd to see if my data is intact and the disk wont mount error is as follows mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error
[07:00] <bankster> ummm ubuntu-th it's me
[07:01] <[mayh3m] pt> are you saying automatix isn't good?
[07:01] <Pici> [mayh3m] pt: Correct.
[07:01] <nickrud> yes
[07:01] <Evanlec> not if u want to upgrade
[07:01] <[mayh3m] pt> Why is that?
[07:01] <devasura> theDtTvB2,  system->preferences->sessions --- tab of current session
[07:01] <DM|>  /set irc_conf_mode 1
[07:01] <efx2k3> another small question: can anyone recommend a good dc++ client?
[07:01] <heguru> !automatix | [mayh3m] pt
[07:01] <ubotu> [mayh3m] pt: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:01] <nickrud> [mayh3m] pt: read that link the ubotu message
[07:01] <Evanlec> because it doesnt follow ubuntu guidelines for software installation
[07:01] <valahogy> hello hungary
[07:01] <Icekuma> Evening folks
[07:01] <[mayh3m] pt> oh ok
[07:01] <theDtTvB2> devasure: Oh, I am now at the sessions properties
[07:02] <Icekuma> Anyone else have problems with firefox locking up?
[07:02] <genii> UbuntuGuy: Bah.no decent links.Anyhow, att to bottom of xorg.conf 3 lines, like so: Section "Extensions"     new line then:    Option "Composite" "Enable"  then new line again and finally: EndSection
[07:02] <heguru> Icekuma: while using flash?
[07:02] <Evanlec> efx2k3, there's only really one i think that u'd wanna use, its under add/remove programs
[07:02] <devasura> theDtTvB2, remove gnome-panel from there !! i think that should do it
[07:02] <Icekuma> I try to go to youtube and similar sites
[07:02] <Icekuma> I always LOCK up
[07:02] <efx2k3> thanks evan
[07:02] <Icekuma> myspace works okay until I go to a site with videos
[07:02] <Evanlec> yep i get crashes with flash
[07:02] <heguru> Icekuma: thats a flash problem
[07:02] <scrumpyGums> Is there any way of setting the default width of a terminal window?
[07:02] <Icekuma> so what's the fix?
[07:02] <theDtTvB2> Ok, I will try.
[07:03] <Evanlec> flash 9 for linux seems a little flakey to me
[07:03] <heguru> Icekuma: wait for adobe to release a better version for linux
[07:03] <Icekuma> ohh lol
[07:03] <theDtTvB2> Ok, it works for now.
[07:03] <bankster> Can you tell me how can I backup my ubuntu
[07:03] <keito7812> HELP!!!! my drive wont mount and now at boot I get a black srceen telling me initramfs I loaded a livecd to see if my data is intact and the disk wont mount error is as follows mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error
[07:03] <theDtTvB2> Now do I logout?
[07:03] <devasura> theDtTvB2, go to tab current session
[07:03] <keito7812> how do I retrieve the data??????
[07:03] <bankster> and restore it when can not startx
[07:03] <AlxR_> jakarta
[07:04] <devasura> theDtTvB2,  no idea
[07:04] <theDtTvB2> devasura: Oh, OK.
[07:04] <Evanlec> keito7812, werent u the one looking for a disk checking software?
[07:04] <UbuntuGuy> genii: I found that I can say Composite "1" and get the same result
[07:04] <keito7812> Evanlec: yes
[07:04] <neverblue2> why would my crontab -e not run, for my user?
[07:04] <Evanlec> keito7812, werent u saying u thot u needed a new HD?
[07:04] <devasura> theDtTvB2, you can restart x server by cntl-alt-backspace
[07:05] <keito7812> Evanlec: now it has gone bigtime
[07:05] <theDtTvB2> Uhmmm
[07:05] <devasura> theDtTvB2, you will go to the log in window
[07:05] <Evanlec> keito7812, well i think you may have proved your point ...
[07:05] <theDtTvB2> Yeah.
[07:05] <Lenway> #ubuntu-fr
[07:05] <keito7812> Evanlec: is there anyway to fix this error and get it to mount so I can get the data back
[07:05] <theDtTvB2> Is there an application name for the logout window?
[07:05] <heguru> neverblue2: are you getting any errors?
[07:05] <UbuntuGuy> How can I control/disable the file indexing feature of Gutsy?  Every startup the disk goes crazy for 5-10 minutes -- didn't happen on feisty
[07:05] <Evanlec> keito7812, there may be, you could try Super Grub Disk, or fsck
[07:06] <keito7812> Evanlec: super grub disc?
[07:06] <valahogy> sos
[07:06] <keito7812> Evanlec: whats that then ;0)
[07:06] <Evanlec> !sgd | keito7812
[07:06] <neverblue2> heguru, the cron running should be indicated in /var/log/syslog, but I am seeing nothing, which leads me to believe the cron isnt running
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sgd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <genii> UbuntuGuy: Same result meaning it's equivelent to "Enable" or same result as in you still can't enable desktop effects?
[07:06] <Evanlec> bah
[07:06] <K-42> Hi, when i try to run a program with wine, it gives me error msg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/833/ does anybody know how to help me?
[07:06] <keito7812> lol
[07:06] <valahogy> hy i am not english
[07:06] <nickrud> UbuntuGuy: look for beagled or trackerd in system-prefs-sessions startup programs
[07:06] <UbuntuGuy> genii: equivalent to Enable -- desktop effects now working!
[07:06] <Evanlec> keito7812, google super grub disc, and fsck is the equivalent of chkdsk in windows
[07:07] <genii> UbuntuGuy: Good :)
[07:07] <heguru> neverblue2: ls /var/run/cron*
[07:07] <BrianMH> when someone is free for some advice let me know please
[07:07] <keito7812> Evanlec: this is not a good situation there was about 80gb not backed up
[07:07] <heguru> neverblue2: if you get crond.pid then cron is running
[07:07] <keito7812> Evanlec: how many times do I have to learn that lesson?
[07:07] <neverblue2> heguru, I see a crond.pid
[07:07] <superflymug> hello everyone
[07:07] <drewzf> When one uses --message with an svn commit where is this data stored?
[07:07] <superflymug> I need help
[07:07] <heguru> neverblue2: then cron is running
[07:07] <Evanlec> keito7812, i just lost about that much data, but that was my own stupidity
[07:08] <genii> BrianMH: A better approach is to just openly ask your question and see if someone responds
[07:08] <neverblue2> heguru, but the cron is to turn my display off
[07:08] <keito7812> Evanlec: this is pretty stupid of me to be fair
[07:08] <nickrud> UbuntuGuy: and possibly what you're seeing is updatedb , it gets run once a day, from /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate something
[07:08] <keito7812> Evanlec: Ie had at least 6 drives die over the years
[07:08] <heguru> neverblue2: to further confirm you can do ps aux | grep cron
[07:08] <keito7812> Ive
[07:08] <superflymug> can anyone help me
[07:08] <keito7812> Evanlec: do I ahve to use sgd to boot then fsck or what?
[07:08] <neverblue2> heguru, and look for ?
[07:08] <Evanlec> keito7812, wow, bad luck, never had a drive die on me really, well one or two, but i had my data backed up on usb drive, accidentally intalled ubuntu somehow on my usb drive lol
[07:09] <neverblue2> !anyone | superflymug
[07:09] <ubotu> superflymug: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:09] <heguru> neverblue2: a line ending with /usr/sbin/cron
[07:09] <drewzf> When one uses --message with an svn commit where is this data stored?
[07:09] <Evanlec> keito7812, super grub disk has its own tools, you can boot off it and look, fsck u can run from the recovery console off the livecd
[07:09] <neverblue2> heguru, does crontab -e not output results to /var/log/syslog, which would be the same as /etc/crontab ?
[07:09] <cyrano> heguru: I had to rebuild the index. That solved the sunderbird problem
[07:09] <xxx> b u
[07:09] <xxx> hohola
[07:09] <xxx> hola
[07:10] <keito7812> Evanlec: that looks like my first port of call then.. trust me, you really wanna back up your shizzle
[07:10] <heguru> neverblue2: crontab -e just opens the users crontab file for editing
[07:10] <cyrano> all my 2.6 GB of e-mails are back :D
[07:10] <cyrano> c u
[07:10] <neverblue2> heguru, that doesnt answer my question :)
[07:10] <keito7812> Evanlec: Im a bit dubious as to the state my data will be in after this
[07:10] <foxiness> am on beta version ,and using vbox 1.5 OSE, when i installed it am on other version what am on it now ,and seems that  sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup not work and point me to log file? any tips?
[07:10] <superflymug> I have just gotten ubuntu and I need to get to the internet with it
[07:10] <superflymug> I cant connect though
[07:10] <heguru> cyrano: good :D i would still backup Inbox if i were you
[07:10] <neverblue2> superflymug, wired, wireless, modem ?
[07:10] <keito7812> superflymug: ethernet or wifi or usb?
[07:10] <keito7812> superflymug: modem???
[07:10] <Evanlec> keito7812, yea i hear ya
[07:10] <heguru> neverblue2: crontab -e does not output anything to syslog, it only opens the users crontab for editing
[07:10] <superflymug> belkin wirless usb
[07:11] <nickrud> foxiness: for 6 more days, gutsy questions on #ubuntu+1
[07:11] <UbuntuGuy> nickrud: I think its trackerd -- I did ctrl-alt-backspace and it went crazy after I logged in
[07:11] <keito7812> superflymug:Evanlec: thanks again for the headsup Il give it a shot
[07:11] <superflymug> thanks
[07:11] <theDtTvB2> Oh, great, gnome-session-save --kill --gui
[07:11] <nickrud> UbuntuGuy: sounds right. you should be able to uncheck it in that session dialog
[07:11] <foxiness> nickrud: k thanks
[07:11] <keito7812> superflymug: wireless can be a pain
[07:11] <superflymug> oh yeah I know
[07:12] <keito7812> superflymug: if it was speedtouch I could help you
[07:12] <neverblue2> heguru, ok, allow my to rephrase for you, as I obviously made a mistake, does the 'users crontab' write to /var/log/syslog, when something is executed within that 'users crontab' ?
[07:12] <drewzf> When one uses --message with an svn commit where is this data stored?
[07:12] <keito7812> superflymug: I had to alter my modprobe.d to get my wifi to work
[07:12] <BrianMH> did that earlier and got no response so thought I would try that method.  Anyway here we go:  I was doing an install earlier on dev/sdb when it froze at installing hardware.  I used xp to delete those extra partitions and booted up to try again.  Now all that is showing is dev/sda and dev/sdb is missing.  I want to try the install again on that drive but can't.
[07:12] <keito7812> superflymug: youe gonna need to do some hardcore research me thinks
[07:12] <BrianMH> sorry used vista to delete
[07:12] <superflymug> I've done research but cant seem to find a solution
[07:13] <neverblue2> superflymug, forums?
[07:13] <superflymug> oh yeah thousands
[07:13] <heguru> neverblue2: when something is executed then yes it writes to sysloh
[07:13] <keito7812> superflymug: i personnaly
[07:13] <heguru> *syslog
[07:13] <keito7812> superflymug: personally don know that card mate
[07:13] <neverblue2> heguru, then why would I not see results posted to /var/log/syslog then?
[07:14] <UbuntuGuy> I've got desktop effects enabled on gutsy,  How do I get to the fancy stuff (like in compiz-beryl) for cube, wobbly windows etc?
[07:14] <neverblue2> heguru, for my 'users crontab'
[07:14] <superflymug> I believe my usb wirless card uses rt73 not for sure though
[07:14] <neverblue2> !gutsy | UbuntuGuy
[07:14] <ubotu> UbuntuGuy: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[07:14] <heguru> neverblue2: perhaps because it never ran?
[07:14] <nickrud> UbuntuGuy: for six more days :)
[07:14] <neverblue2> heguru, if I add to /etc/crontab, I see it run for root
[07:15] <superflymug> keito7812: how do you make that ding
[07:15] <neverblue2> heguru, is there something else I might be missing?
[07:15] <UbuntuGuy> nickrud: do you mean that the fancy stuff is not available yet?  I did upgrade to gutsy the other day
[07:15] <keito7812> superflymug: eh? ding?
[07:15] <nickrud> UbuntuGuy: no, 6 more days of not asking gutsy questions here
[07:15] <bqmassey> are there any applications available that will check yahoo, gmail, and hotmail email accounts?
[07:15] <superflymug> nothing
[07:15] <keito7812> superflymug: I have NO idea lol
[07:15] <UbuntuGuy> oic
[07:15] <coco> anyone knows waht is a run file
[07:15] <heguru> neverblue2: well can't say, unless you've added cron.allow or cron.deny
[07:16] <heguru> coco: did you download the ATI driver?
[07:16] <keito7812> superflymug: wish I could be of more assistance but I gotta go sort my HDD before it explodes! peace
[07:16] <coco> yes
[07:16] <coco> how do i install it
[07:16] <superflymug> later thanks anyway
[07:16] <BrianMH> bqmassey: do you mean check for email?
[07:16] <bqmassey> BrianMH: yep
[07:16] <alex_ajt> Hi folks - has anyone managed to enable kde4 in the new rc?
[07:16] <superflymug> Can anyone help me with getting internet to work on my ubuntu
[07:17] <heguru> !ati | coco: you should follow the instructions here
[07:17] <ubotu> coco: you should follow the instructions here: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:17] <superflymug> I'm using a wireless belkin usb
[07:17] <coco> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html
[07:17] <nickrud> coco: and try the ones provided by ubuntu first, before messing with that one
[07:17] <BrianMH> well gmail offers pop3 so basically any email client
[07:17] <coco> ok
[07:17] <coco> i will
[07:17] <BrianMH> hotmail and yahoo offer pop3 for a fee
[07:17] <nickrud> coco: I'm fairly savvy, and that is a rough road
[07:17] <neverblue2> heguru, thanks for trying to help
[07:18] <coco> im very new to unix and im not good with the commands
[07:18] <Stormx2> Hmm. I need someone to help me through getting internet connection sharing working - I've been trying for a while now but with no cigar. I'm using a wireless card for internet connectivity, and plugging and xbox into my NIC.
[07:18] <grimborg0> hi
[07:18] <bqmassey>  BrianMH: well i was looking for something like Gmail Notifier, that will work for all three
[07:18] <alex_ajt> I was looking for any tips on how to make kde4 show up in the sessions option
[07:18] <heguru> Stormx2: do you know the interface names for your Wireless and wired NIC?
[07:18] <nickrud> coco: you've come to the right place for linux then, this distro keeps all the complexity but has good front ends for it, until you are ready
[07:18] <bqmassey> BrianMH: I don't want to download the emails, I just want to be notified when I have a new one .. and have it open up to webmail to see them
[07:19] <Stormx2> heguru: Yeah. wlan0 and eth0, respectively.
[07:19] <chippy> !ping
[07:19] <ubotu> pong
[07:19] <BrianMH> found one for gmail http://lifehacker.com/photogallery/Lifehacker-Top-10-Ubuntu-Apps/1960239
[07:19] <coco> thank you
[07:19] <BrianMH> looking for one for all 3 if I can find one
[07:19] <coco> ill start reading
[07:20] <coco> :)
[07:20] <grimborg0> i have installed the nvidia proprietary drivers on gutsy and then i could get only low-res Xorg. i tried to revert to the ubuntu drivers, reinstalling nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel, but it always appears in low-res. i only get hi-res with the unaccelerated nv driver. is there a way to cleanly install again the ubuntu nvidia drivers ? thanks
[07:20] <bqmassey> BrianMH: cool, thanks for the help.. im looking too
[07:20] <tatters> !fusion-icon
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion-icon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <superflymug> Can anyone help me I'm new to linux
[07:21] <spartan> How do you set up a VNC server on Xubuntu with xfce?
[07:21] <chippy> !anyone
[07:21] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:21] <superflymug> I'm trying to connect to the internet with ubuntu I have a wireless usb belkin card
[07:21] <chippy> bqmassey, gmail also does rss, so can use email reader
[07:21] <BrianMH> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+question/5692 post from emmet hickory offers a possible solution for you
[07:21] <tatters> what best way to stop n start compiz on gutsy
[07:21] <heguru> Stormx2: sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward && sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE
[07:22] <heguru> heguru: then just set default gateway on Xbox to the ip of eth0
[07:22] <Stormx2> heguru: Hmm. The xbox is returning "No DNS server addresses were received from DHCP"
[07:22] <nickrud> tatters: I use compiz --replace && emerald --replace to start, metacity --replace to stop
[07:22] <Stormx2> heguru: Talking to yourself again? :)
[07:22] <bqmassey> chippy, BrianMH:  awesome.. thanks guys
[07:23] <tatters> nickrud thnx ill give it shot
[07:24] <grimborg0> it says "API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7185, but
[07:24] <grimborg0> this X module has the version 1.0-9639.
[07:25] <bqmassey> i'm running 7.10-RC Live CD... it's incredibly slow... i assume that's because it's a Live CD.. correct?
[07:25] <Stormx2> heguru, when i manually set the DNS servers to my computer, my router, or openDNS, I get "DNS Servers could not be reached". maybe ip forwarding isn't working?
[07:25] <Pici> bqmassey: yes.  Further questions in #ubuntu+1 please.
[07:25] <heguru> Stormx2: sorry went to answer the door
[07:25] <chuy_max> what does ro and quiet mean in menu.lst file?
[07:26] <Stormx2> heguru, no prob :)
[07:26] <heguru> Stormx2: you should not use DHCP on xbox, but static IP
[07:26] <chippy> superflymug,  have you looked at the wiki? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs there may be some walk throughs there for your particular card
[07:26] <Stormx2> heguru, I've set up the IP address aquisition to be static. That works fine. But it complains that it hasn't received any DNS servers from the DHCP server.
[07:27] <Stormx2> heguru: i guess that's dnsmasq's fault, I'll look into it
[07:27] <heguru> Stormx2: well I don't have Xbox in front to test, but the error suggests xbox is using DHCP for DNS which it should not
[07:27] <heguru> Stormx2: you should set the DNS server address manually
[07:28] <Stormx2> Hmm.
[07:28] <Stormx2> Hold up :)
[07:28] <Stormx2> heguru, when i manually set the DNS server to the OpenDNS servers (what this machine also uses), it says it can't reach the servers.
[07:29] <Stormx2> So... maybe the packets aren't being forwarded to wlan0?
[07:29] <amishninja> Anyone know how to specify a disc image for VMWare to use for booting a virtual machine?
[07:29] <maxb> dput just surprised me and uploaded a package to upload.ubuntu.com instead of my private repo. Who should I contact to explain and ask for it to be dropped?
[07:29] <heguru> Stormx2: did you get any error running the command I gave you? do you have any firewall running?
[07:30] <Stormx2> heguru: No errors. Firestarter is running, but it won't actually start the firewall.
[07:30] <Stormx2> heguru: Ah, it will now. Wasn't working earlier.
[07:31] <heguru> Stormx2: you have to disable firestarter or atleast create some exceptions for this work
[07:31] <tatters> emerald --replace    gives me errors "Checking for Xgl: not present." and it seems to fail to load  90% of plugins
[07:32] <Stormx2> heguru: interesting. When I start firestarter, it can't locate the network gateway. I'll disable it again.
[07:32] <aunes> I have a theme set up where everything is white on black. Anyone have a suggestion on how to force pidgin (gaim) to display the incoming messages to a dark background instead of white? (grey on white is hard to read)
[07:33] <bqmassey> :  <3's  Ubuntu
[07:33] <bqmassey> there
[07:33] <cherva> how can i change the resolution of the login screen because it is a little longer than my normal resolution (1024x768)
[07:33] <aunes> nm. fixed.
[07:33] <erle64> where can i find out the differences between ubuntu kernels and kernels from kernel.org?
[07:33] <seapiggy> cherva, I would thing you could make it the default in the xorg.conf file and that would take care of it
[07:33] <Stormx2> heguru: uhg. I enabled firewall and got that error. Disabling it again doesn't fix it... meh. i need to eat, be back later.
[07:34] <Tilllinu1> heya.... is there any way to replace the goom visualization effects?
[07:34] <heguru> Stormx2: you would have to run the command i wrote above again, once you're back that is
[07:34] <ShakaGoldSaint> hi there, i'm trying to recover my grub after a windows install...
[07:35] <ShakaGoldSaint> i'm trying with a liveCD and the chroot method but when i get to the "setup (hd0)" part it says in the end: "error 22: no such partition"
[07:35] <DM|> shakagoldsaint type in terminal "mount"
[07:35] <ShakaGoldSaint> done
[07:35] <DM|> shakagoldsaint and pastebin it
[07:36] <DM|> !pastebin | ShakaGoldSaint
[07:36] <ubotu> ShakaGoldSaint: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:36] <amishninja> Does anyone know VMWare?
[07:36] <seapiggy> I am using the desktop cube compiz pager. For some reason, when i do a <ctl><alt><arrow key> it is shifting two desktops over, not just one. Has anyone seen this?
[07:37] <cherva> seapiggy: my desktop (after the login is 1024x768), but the login screen has diferent i don't thing there is an option for the login screen resolution in xorg.conf
[07:37] <amishninja> What's better about virtualbox?
[07:37] <amishninja> meh
[07:38] <ShakaGoldSaint> DM|, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40411/
[07:38] <amishninja> Well, my question is: does anyone know how to specify a disc image for VMWare to use in booting up a virtual machine?
[07:38] <rockets> amishninja, you mean like an iso?
[07:39] <DM|> ShakaGoldSaint umm, what disk are you trying to mount?
[07:39] <cherva> !lostgrub
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lostgrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <amishninja> yes, rockets. iso = disc image :)
[07:39] <cherva> !grub
[07:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:39] <rockets> amishninja, just edit the settings for the cdrom
[07:39] <rockets> amishninja, its right in there
[07:39] <ShakaGoldSaint> DM|, sda6 in my ubuntu partition
[07:39] <amishninja> k
[07:39] <ShakaGoldSaint> is*
[07:39] <ShakaGoldSaint> it's mounted
[07:40] <DM|> ShakaGoldSaint well its now showing its even mounted :(
[07:40] <ShakaGoldSaint> is that a bad thing?
[07:40] <DM|> ShakaGoldSaint well for you yes, you can chroot something that isnt mounted
[07:40] <DM|> Shakagoldsaint why are you trying to chroot out of curiosity
[07:40] <seapiggy> cherva, There is not a special area of the xorg.conf that controls just the login screen and post login desktop. its all the same to the x server.  Do you think you used gnome to change your desktop resolution?? thats the only thing i can think of that would cause that
[07:41] <user934> I am confused about configureing new resolution.. there is no resolution higher than 1024x768 option
[07:41] <ShakaGoldSaint> to run grub-install with my grub settings :P
[07:41] <tatters> sing a nvidia fx5200    compiz --replace && emerald --replace   returns "checking for Xgl: not present and then fails to load plugins"
[07:41] <DM|> shakagoldsaint in the GUI do u see your HDD mounted? Places>Computer
[07:41] <ShakaGoldSaint> yep
[07:41] <seapiggy> cherva, if so, just make the xorg.conf's default resolution be 1024x768 and you should be good
[07:41] <ShakaGoldSaint> i'm trying to recover my grub
[07:42] <cherva> seapiggy: 1024x768 is the default res but the res isn't the same in the login screen
[07:42] <DM|> Shakagoldsaint when u right click it, does it give the option to mount?
[07:42] <croese> got a quick question for you guys
[07:43] <ruz322> croese: go for it
[07:43] <ShakaGoldSaint> DM|, it gives the unmount volume option
[07:43] <DM|> Shakagoldsaint which version of liveCD are u running
[07:43] <seapiggy> cherva - how do you know that? does your monitor have On-Sceeen-Display that tells you what the current resolution is or does it just feel different?
[07:43] <ShakaGoldSaint> feisty
[07:43] <ShakaGoldSaint> i386
[07:43] <kermit_dude> Hi! How can I make my VLC program play my mkv files?
[07:44] <croese> i just built my new comp and when i try to install 7.04, i get the menu and select the install option and it appears to start intalling and then my video suddenly cuts out
[07:44] <croese> i also tried the safe graphics option, same result
[07:44] <ruz322> croese: alternate install cd? sounds like your having some video problems
[07:44] <kermit_dude> Hi! How can I make my VLC program play my mkv files?
[07:44] <cherva> seapiggy when i i move the mouse to the right the login screen scrolls and the clock shows
[07:45] <DM|> ShakaGoldSaint do this "ls -ld /dev/sda7"
[07:45] <belgarath_> What is wrong?  I install nvidia-driver (propert) and got X working... after reboot it fails to start X and I got a message that the kernel module version is wrong...
[07:45] <junkeR> hey, will I notice a big jump in performance going from 512MB RAM to 2GB?
[07:45] <seapiggy> ShakaGoldSaint, this is what i have done in the past - boot from cd, mount root drive. chroot into root drive. run the grub install scripts. exit chroot. unmount root partition. reboot. not sure if that is what you have already tried or not
[07:45] <ShakaGoldSaint> /dev/sda7: No such file or directory
[07:45] <croese> before it happens, i get a msg at the bottom of the screen about the kernel being mapped or some such. this normal?
[07:45] <ruz322> junkeR: yes, definitely
[07:45] <seapiggy> junkeR, yes
[07:45] <ShakaGoldSaint> i have no sda7 partition
[07:45] <kermit_dude> Hi! How can I make my VLC program play my mkv files?
[07:45] <junkeR> usually past ram upgrades haven't been all that noticeable for me
[07:46] <DM|> ShakaGoldSaint ok tell me what u have been trying ( the line for chroot ) in terminal ?
[07:46] <ruz322> croese: are you using the normal cd or the alternate install cd?
[07:46] <seapiggy> cherva, are u running gdm or kdm?
[07:46] <DM|> shakagoldsaint IOW what code have u been entering
[07:46] <cherva> gdm
[07:46] <croese> since i'm not sure what the alternate one is, i'm going to say normal
[07:46] <ShakaGoldSaint> seapiggy, yep, that's what i'm trying to do right now, it's just that when i run grub-install /dev/sda, it says "/dev/sda7: Not such file or not a block device" or something like it, i have no sda7 partition, :S
[07:46] <seapiggy> cherva, I am guessing the login isnt' in the middle of the screen then?
[07:47] <kermit_dude> Hi! How can I make my VLC program play my mkv files? Anyone please help....thanks
[07:47] <ruz322> croese: download the alt install cd iso, and try that, it installs in an all text mode that should work, after you get it installed, if it still dont work, we can troubleshoot the xorg file
[07:47] <cherva> seapiggy no it's just wider
[07:47] <cherva> than 1024x768
[07:47] <croese> k, where's the alternate, same place i got the normal?
[07:47] <seapiggy> ShakaGoldSaint, have you tried skipping the grub install script and just using the grub command to install it?
[07:47] <user934> I am confused about configureing new resolution.. there is no resolution higher than 1024x768 option
[07:47] <ruz322> croese: yes, should be int he same directory
[07:48] <ldiamond> Can any1 tell me how to exit rdesktop when its full screen?
[07:48] <folki> hi all, can anybody  give me advice how can i tell to automount in ubuntu what name of mount point i want to use for my usb disk. for example when i plug an usb disk in, it will be automatically mounted into directory called disk-1. But I do not want use that name. How can i solve this problem? thanks for your replies.
[07:48] <seapiggy> user934, what modes are listed in your xorg.conf?
[07:48] <user934> i tried to edit it .. but even after adding it still doesnt give different modes in gui
[07:49] <bsdunix> is there any proposed relationship between ubuntu and google? <i heard rumor...
[07:49] <user934> in xorg.conf there originally were only 3
[07:49] <ruz322> croese: when you go to "get ubuntu" on the ubuntu website, there is a checkbox at the bottom of the page where you pick your download location that you check to get the alt install
[07:49] <user934> ;-)
[07:49] <croese> yeah, i just found it
[07:49] <seapiggy> cherva, i have no idea - I have never seen that. perhaps you should paste your xorg.conf in the pastebin???
[07:49] <ruz322> croese: k
[07:49] <superflymug50> Hello can someone help me with getting my Ubuntu on the Internet I'm using a belkin wirless usb
[07:49] <croese> btw, i do get the same issue when i try checking the cd also
[07:49] <seapiggy> user934, what video card do you have?/
[07:50] <user934> installed ubuntu feisty on previous pc and it auto gave me best mode..
[07:50] <user934> now using nvidia
[07:50] <user934> different story
[07:50] <ShakaGoldSaint> seapiggy, yep
[07:50] <ruz322> croese: wat do ;you mean checking the cd? md5sum it?
[07:50] <seapiggy> are you using the nvidia driver or the nv driver?
[07:50] <cherva> seapiggy http://pastebin.com/dbbbba90
[07:50] <seapiggy> k
[07:50] <ShakaGoldSaint> seapiggy, in the last step, setup (hd0) gives me this error in the end: "error 22: no such partition"
[07:50] <superflymug50> Hello can someone help me with getting my Ubuntu on the Internet I'm using a belkin wirless usb
[07:50] <croese> no, the md5 sum was good, i mean the checking option on the boot-up menu
[07:50] <ldiamond> Can any1 tell me how to exit rdesktop when its full screen?
[07:51] <d90> for ubuntu and linux generaly what is better graphic card ATI or Nvidia?
[07:51] <croese> where you can verify the cd image, i guess
[07:51] <ruz322> croese: oh you might just have a bad disc, just try the alt cd and see what happens
[07:51] <cherva> d90 Nvidia
[07:51] <croese> alright, thnx
[07:51] <seapiggy> cherva, how did you configure the xorg?
[07:51] <user934> gfx card doesnt show up in devman
[07:52] <croese> of course, this one's d/ling at a snail's pace...just when i need it
[07:52] <user934> some nvidia 7800 something or other
[07:52] <danroj> http://danroj.obolog.com
[07:52] <cherva> seapiggy nvidia-xconfig and a little nvidia-settings after that
[07:52] <user934> anyone?
[07:53] <seapiggy> are you sure you need the metamode line?
[07:53] <seapiggy> line 66?
[07:53] <seapiggy> is it twin view?
[07:53] <cherva> seapiggy twin view is curently disables
[07:53] <cherva> disabled*
[07:54] <seapiggy> you have 1600x1200, 1280x1024 listed as modes on 69.
[07:54] <seapiggy> are those for the second screen?
[07:54] <cherva> my second screen is a tv
[07:54] <seapiggy> ah
[07:54] <superflymug50> Hello can someone help me with getting my Ubuntu on the Internet I'm using a belkin wirless usb
[07:54] <seapiggy> i would remove "1600x1200" "1280x1024" from line 69, restart x and see if that takes care of it
[07:55] <cherva> i'll comment it sec
[07:55] <seapiggy> those modes arn't  for a tv anyway ;-)
[07:55] <seapiggy> k
[07:56] <defendguin> i have an ongoing issue where i deleted a partition from my drive but the file system check keeps trying to check it during boot and drops me into a rescue shell during boot and this is truly annoying   how can i stop this and configure what drives are checked during boot?
[07:56] <Evanlec> WTF i change my gfx card (300$) and ubuntu 64 liveCD still gives me squat when i try to boot it
[07:56] <ldiamond> Can any1 tell me how to exit rdesktop full screen mode?? Im using a VM so ctrl+alt+enter aint working :(
[07:56] <seapiggy> defendguin, is the partition still in your fstab?
[07:56] <cherva> FIXED :)
[07:57] <folki> hi all, can anybody  give me advice how can i tell to automount in ubuntu what name of mount point i want to use for my usb disk. for example when i plug an usb disk in, it will be automatically mounted into directory called disk-1. But I do not want use that name. How can i solve this problem? thanks for your replies.
[07:57] <cherva> seapiggy thx
[07:57] <seapiggy> np
[07:57] <skunkworks> anyone seen this?  http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/GLXGEARS1.png
[07:57] <defendguin> seapiggy: yeah
[07:57] <cherva> folki i'm not shure about it but look at /etc/fstab
[07:58] <fuzzyhair> If I am downloading something and I have a really good connection it will mess with the connections of others in the network. How can I limit my bandwidth so I won't affect others?
[07:58] <cherva> skunkworks what about it ?
[07:58] <riotkittie> if you are going to mess with fstab, back it up first :P
[07:58] <skunkworks> cherva: 7.10 seems to have issues with opengl
[07:59] <Evanlec> fuzzyhair, newer routers have QoS support
[07:59] <nickrud> folki: after you mount the disk, right click the icon on the desktop and select properties. There's an option for setting the displayed mount name there
[07:59] <okeefenokee> Folks, my media center running ubuntu has crashed - I suspect a broken motherboard. WHat would happen if I got a new one, different model with different processor, but kept all the other components? Would my Ubuntu installation still worek, or would I have to do it all over again?
[07:59] <cherva> skunkworks well they have 6 days to fix them :)
[07:59] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, should work no problem
[07:59] <skunkworks> cherva: Yeck ;)
[07:59] <rockets> okeefenokee, if it doesnt work, you can just copy the /etc/ directory, reinstall ubuntu, and overwrite etc with the old directory
[08:00] <rockets> that would restore the vast majority of your configuration
[08:00] <skunkworks> cherva: I posted here if it is the right place  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=573980
[08:00] <nickrud> folki: mount point under volume
[08:01] <folki> nickrud:thanks. and do you know what config file i should edit if do not have gui?
[08:01] <rockets> gutsy seems to work just fantastically for me . . . ive got the crazy compiz fuson stuff running on Xgl with no issue skunkworks
[08:01] <okeefenokee> evanlec, rockets: Thank you, sounds good. I guess I'll start surfing for a new mboard then!
[08:01] <silent_> any tips on customizing my applications/places/desktop menus in gnome? never really tried it, as they're organized so well, but something i installed wasn't added :/
[08:01] <seapiggy> defendguin, why don't you just remove it from fstab? do you need it in there for some reason?
[08:01] <rockets> okeefenokee, :-D
[08:01] <mayeco> is there a channel for Ubuntu Planet?
[08:01] <defendguin> seapiggy: yeah just did that
[08:01] <rockets> silent_, just right click on the applications menu and click edit
[08:01] <seapiggy> kewl
[08:01] <nickrud> folki: nope.
[08:02] <silent_> rockets, thanks
[08:02] <rockets> silent, be thankful. before alacarte, it was a total pain in the ass to edit gnome menus
[08:02] <rockets> you had to edit a bunch of text files
[08:02] <nickrud> folki: the option I'm talking about is kept as part of the gui config. You might look for information about hal, the hardware abstraction layer.
[08:02] <bqmassey> Q:  I'm running a Live CD... how do I figure out how much free space is available for an NTFS partition I have
[08:02] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, yea, u might wanna just check and see if there are ones that work nicely with ubuntu, tho most should
[08:02] <rockets> bqmassey, df -h
[08:02] <mayeco> how is the planet ubuntu admin?
[08:02] <silent> rockets, hehe, I'm thankful for a lot of things in linux that weren't before
[08:02] <rockets> bqmassey, you have to mount it first though
[08:03] <silent> rockets, getting very close to an all-purpose desktop system without cli
[08:03] <rockets> silent, yeah. ubuntu is just great in that way.
[08:03] <Evanlec> anyone else able to boot the 32-bit liveCD but never even get past the first screen on a 64-bit liveCD ?
[08:03] <desertc> Question, recently, I occasionally have problems getting a DHCP address with my desktop computer.  When I run "sudo dhclient", it seems to be successful, but still no addr set to the eth0 card.  What's a good way to start troubleshooting this problem?
[08:03] <bqmassey> rockets: how do i go about mounting it?
[08:03] <riotkittie> ew. dont say 'without cli'. that. is. so. wrong.
[08:03] <bqmassey> ill see if i can figure it out
[08:03] <user934> Could anyone please help me configure my screen resolution?
[08:03] <silent> rockets, I'm actually running debian (taboo?), but its all the same, I run ubuntu on another system as well... really just wanted to try to build my own system from the base up
[08:03] <okeefenokee> evanlec: Aye. Any particular recommendations? I'd like to have Wake-On-Lan and nvram wakeup (or wuzzitcalled)
[08:04] <bulmer> folki: man udev
[08:04] <seapiggy> desertc, have you checked syslog and messages when this happens?
[08:04] <rockets> bqmassey, mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /mount/me/here
[08:04] <rockets> silent, nothing wrong with debian. if it wasnt for  debian thered be no ubuntu
[08:04] <silent> rockets, yep
[08:04] <desertc> seanw, no -- I will do that next time.  ty
[08:04] <folki> nickrud, bulmer: thanks
[08:04] <amishninja> I am in need of advice; I need to test a website using a php4-based lamp setup. I already have php5-based lamp installed (Ubuntu of course), and I don't want to deal with the confusion of having both php4 and php5 on here because I understand it's messy. so my idea is to use virtualization to install a separate linux and put the php4-based lamp stuff on there to test and run.
[08:04] <rockets> silent, basically debian is like ubuntu, but more stable, and harder to configure. thats the only difference really
[08:04] <amishninja> Question is: what is the best, lightweight distro for doing this?
[08:04] <doogers> ciao a tutti
[08:05] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, mm, i'd recommend my board cuz it works, but its a couple years old, its an intel 955X based board....i'd definitely go for dual-core processor, Amd or Intel is fine, and wake-on-lan should be on most boards
[08:05] <amishninja> I'm not looking to download 2.5 GB's worth of ISOs if possible
[08:05] <riotkittie> !it | doogers
[08:05] <ubotu> doogers: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:05] <croese> evanlec: i'm alos having trouble w/ the 64-bit one
[08:05] <silent> rockets, yeah, I had a limited amount of hard drive space as well.. so not installing the multitude of software that comes with ubuntu was helpful
[08:05] <rockets> amishninja, uh . . . ubuntu? you can install php4 just fine on another box
[08:05] <meek> could anyone please help me change screen resolution?
[08:05] <meek> my screen needs to go to higher resolution
[08:05] <rockets> silent, actually you can do a "command line install" off the alternate cd, which installs basically nothing. and then just add what you want via aptitude/apt-get
[08:05] <meek> ubuntu feisty only gives 3 resolutions
[08:05] <doogers> Oh... please. I thought that I was to Italian Chan :D
[08:05] <Evanlec> croese, yea? i cant get any 64-bit liveCD to do a damn thing, cd-rom just spins for a couple minutes and then stops...no output to screen whatsoever
[08:05] <seapiggy> meek - what is you video card?
[08:05] <okeefenokee> evanlec: And, oh yeah, micro-at would be nice
[08:06] <rockets> rockets, only differences i can tell between cmd line install and server install is one uses the desktop kernel other uses the server kernel
[08:06] <silent> rockets, good to know, haven't looked into that. I might try that on another system.
[08:06] <meek> seapiggy: nvideo 7800
[08:06] <meek> I think
[08:06] <seapiggy> Evanlec, are you sure you are on a 64-bit box?
[08:06] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, micro-at ... u building a shuttle? ;p
[08:06] <riotkittie> :D
[08:06] <croese> evanles: i get to the menu and then as it starts installing, my video cuts out
[08:06] <amishninja> I unfortunately don't have another box to work with at the moment; Is there a minimal Ubuntu installation I can get then? Like just command line? I guess I should also mention that the website I'm testing is running live on a Fedora Core 4 box.
[08:06] <Evanlec> seapiggy, its a pentium D, it HAS to be
[08:06] <hjmills> does anybody know how to get the raw characters from a caca output as text?
[08:06] <silent> rockets, I'm good for now though, getting an hp laptop released 6 months ago to get wireless access/sound functionality is no small feat
[08:06] <krish> hi
[08:06] <seapiggy> Evanlec, just thought I would ask ;-)
[08:06] <bqmassey> rockets: I think that it's already mounted
[08:06] <riotkittie> amishninja: you can go with a ubuntu minimal install and
[08:06] <Evanlec> croese, starts installing? it should be booting to a desktop first...
[08:06] <okeefenokee> evanlec: micro-atx, sorry
[08:06] <meek> ?
[08:06] <genii> amishninja: Yes, install from Alternate CD for a minimal/commandline installation
[08:06] <croese> no, i mean i choose to install it from the bot-up menu
[08:06] <okeefenokee> It's a media center bo, I'm trying to keep it small
[08:06] <seapiggy> meek can you paset your xorg.conf?
[08:07] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, not sure if micro-atx is like small or really small
[08:07] <meek> ok
[08:07] <meek> where?
[08:07] <mayeco> how is the planet ubuntu admin?
[08:07] <rockets> bqmassey, then just do df -h
[08:07] <seapiggy> meek, - also, what resolution are you getting and what do you want?
[08:07] <okeefenokee> Running vdr on it. Not really small, 18x18 cm (about)
[08:07] <adrian`> Where can I set the default position at which new windows should be displayed (GNOME)?
[08:07] <bqmassey> rockets: where do i do that
[08:07] <Evanlec> okeefenokee, but if its the really small kind, i'd definitely search around and find one thats well supported cuz those tend to be less "mainstream"
[08:07] <seapiggy> meek, - read server message
[08:07] <rockets> bqmassey, a terminal . . .
[08:07] <amishninja> genii: okay. do you think it's a good idea to do this if my goal is to test a website that runs on a Fedora Core 4 system? It will essentially run the same, right?
[08:08] <okeefenokee> Well, the previous one (that crashed) worked A-OK. It was El Cheapo, lacked the wakeonram and so on, but served its purpose. Now I'd like to go the whole hog ;)
[08:08] <silent> rockets, Odd thing, the menu editor says I have gimp in graphics
[08:08] <silent> rockets, I'll try to restart x
[08:08] <Cpudan80> Hey all
[08:08] <genii> amishninja: web stuff is (supposedly) platform independent. If you need some box to test the fedora box from, perhaps just run livecd
[08:09] <Cpudan80> Is there a way to see all activity going through SSH? Specifically SFTP
[08:09] <seapiggy> meek - the url for pasting is in the server message - - -
[08:09] <bqmassey> how do i open up a command line in Ubuntu
[08:10] <seapiggy> http://pastebin.com/
[08:10] <linux4me> anyone here setup lvs-dr on ubuntu fiesty and can point me to some docs?
[08:10] <rockets> silent yeah thats a bug sometimes things dont show up. its seems to have been fixed in gutsy though
[08:10] <soulfreshner> I upgraded to gutsy and now my text consoles don't work
[08:10] <amishninja> genii: okay. well perhaps I can find a minimal fedora core 4 installation image and be done with it.  :)
[08:10] <soulfreshner> I specify vga=0x317, but since the upgrade the screen is just blank
[08:10] <adrian`> bqmassey: open the "run command" window with ALT + F2 and type "gnome-terminal" (just an example)
[08:11] <soulfreshner> funny thing is, I'm using the same kernel version ??
[08:11] <linux4me> found this http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ultramonkey.htm, but is was for debian sarge
[08:11] <bqmassey> thanks adrian`
[08:12] <silent> rockets, well I'm running etch
[08:12] <silent> rockets, ;P
[08:12] <genii> linux4me: Most debian install instructions will also work on Ubuntu
[08:12] <soulfreshner> anybody else have the same problem with gutsy on a laptop?
[08:12] <brun0_|laptop> I have  a problem with subversion !
[08:12] <rockets> silent, ah right. then you should be asking in #debian
[08:12] <brun0_|laptop> I get "Unrecognized URL scheme" with https urls
[08:12] <pt> Can someone tell me what could be the problem here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40416/
[08:12] <brun0_|laptop> from today oni
[08:12] <brun0_|laptop> on
[08:12] <silent> rockets, no need, the x restart fixed it. I'm not to worried about it
[08:12] <brun0_|laptop> last update ...
[08:12] <rockets> ah ok
[08:13] <aguiar> # goalunited.pt /
[08:13] <LogicalDash> The smooth scrolling on gutsy's release of Pidgin is very slow. Anyone else having this problem?
[08:13] <silent> rockets, approximately when will gutsy go stable?
[08:14] <rockets> silent, october 18th
[08:14] <adrian`> silent: on october 18th ;)
[08:14] <rockets> silent, but they've already put out a release candidate.
[08:14] <waldo323> party on the 18th :)
[08:14] <silent> rockets, ok, I'll install it then...
[08:14] <rockets> silent, I've been running it with very few issues for the last two days, as production
[08:14] <rockets> waldo323, the 18th is also my birthday :-D
[08:14] <ibt> i'm a little confused on the proper place to define something like the environment variable JAVA_HOME.. /etc/environment doesn't seem to be loaded for /bin/sh scripts
[08:14] <genii> waldo323: At your house? i'll bring the beer...
[08:14] <silent> rockets, mine on the 5th
[08:14] <aguiar> plz how to join another channel
[08:14] <waldo323> rockets, double party for you then
[08:14] <rockets> genii, i'll drink your beer.
[08:14] <rockets> waldo323, totally\
[08:15] <meek> seapiggy: i am getting to pastebin now
[08:15] <Gandalf84> hi
[08:15] <Gandalf84> can somebody help me please?
[08:15] <waldo323> genii, theres a release party in ann arbor, mi i'll be going to
[08:15] <Gandalf84> i had installed ubuntu and XP on my HD
[08:15] <rockets> im hoping ubuntu-newyork does something
[08:15] <Gandalf84> now i installed Vista too
[08:15] <genii> aguiar: //join #channelname
[08:15] <silent> waldo323, they have release parties?
[08:15] <waldo323> yup!
[08:15] <Evanlec> lol
[08:15] <Gandalf84> and it rewrite the MBR and i cannot access to ubuntu
[08:15] <aguiar> thanks genii
[08:15] <silent> waldo323, that's almost lame... but kinda awesome
[08:15] <Gandalf84> can you help me please?
[08:15] <seapiggy> meek - k, brb
[08:15] <genii> aguiar: /join #channelname       rATHER
[08:15] <ron_asheton> cups root password doesn't work using the live cd, even doing a 'sudo passwd'. what can I do?
[08:15] <rockets> silent, a word of warning. HAL seems to crash on me sometimes, at boot. if it does just pop open a terminal and do sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[08:15] <genii> Bah capslock
[08:15] <aguiar> ok , nice
[08:15] <waldo323> it'll be at the ann arbor brewery
[08:16] <silent> rockets, I'm not even sure what HAL is
[08:16] <genii> waldo323: There may be one here in toronto, have to checl local LUG
[08:16] <rockets> silent, its the thing that automounts external hard drives and CDs and does some other stuff
[08:16] <rockets> silent, also theres still a bug where the usplash just shows up as blank, so dont think that its not booting just cuz the screen is blank.
[08:16] <silent> rockets, ah I see
[08:16] <rockets> silent, if you think it isnt booting, in grub, edit the boot params and remove splash
[08:17] <waldo323> there are a lot of ubuntu local groups around as well as lugs
[08:17] <silent> rockets, chances are I'll have to use vga=0x317 option as well.. needed it for my laptop
[08:17] <J-_> I'm just in the process of installing Xubuntu 7.04, and with this machine and another one, while hte boot process goes, it says something about ACPI - unable to locate RSDP
[08:17] <J-_> Is this a big issue?
[08:17] <dunno> what is the latest ubuntu out now?
[08:17] <J-_> Can I correct it?
[08:17] <rockets> silent, whats that do
[08:17] <soulfreshner> my screen boots up blank if I specify any other resolution than the default...
[08:17] <soulfreshner> it's very annoying
[08:17] <aguiar> 7.10 beta
[08:18] <helpme> I just got ubuntu and I need help connecting to the internet can someone help me
[08:18] <meek> seapiggy: http://pastebin.com/d799bed5f
[08:18] <LiMaO> aguiar: 7.10 RC1, to be exact
[08:18] <LiMaO> it's out of beta alreayd
[08:18] <dunno> thnx aguiar :)
[08:18] <silent> rockets, sets a basic resolution I think...
[08:18] <meek> helpme: whats the prob?
[08:18] <aguiar> soon at 18 i believe comes out
[08:18] <rockets> silent, to what though
[08:19] <helpme> I have a belkin usb wirless
[08:19] <helpme> and I cant get it to work
[08:19] <genii> helpme: How is the machine to be connected? LAN cable to router then ADSL/Cable out? Dialup modem? wireless?
[08:19] <neopsyche> hmm
[08:19] <helpme> wirless
[08:19] <silent> rockets, wiithout it the system is blank, with it, console resolution goes up. I think it adjusts for screen dimensions
[08:19] <neopsyche> lots of configurating!
[08:19] <neopsyche> ;-)
[08:19] <neopsyche> :-)
[08:19] <Scunizi> For anyone using Openoffice in Kubuntu.  When inserting and image, the dialogue box in kde allows for choosing a specific partition but I can't figure out how to choose a folder within that partition.  How do I do that? (Kubuntu Feisty)
[08:19] <helpme> can you help
[08:20] <neopsyche> Good news.. wireless devices seem to work better than softmodems for example ;-)
[08:20] <neopsyche> apparently
[08:20] <pt> What does this mean? "configure: error: Cannot find flex."
[08:20] <soulfreshner> helpme, is ubuntu already installed?
[08:20] <helpme> thats real good
[08:20] <neopsyche> what are you connecting to?
[08:20] <helpme> yes I have both it and xp
[08:20] <neopsyche> i know you need to get on the internet
[08:20] <rockets> silent, ah. is your laptop widescreen
[08:20] <neopsyche> seapiggy: pasted to paste bin
[08:20] <helpme> yes I do lol
[08:20] <neopsyche> but.. what device
[08:21] <neopsyche> are you connecting to/through
[08:21] <neopsyche> is it a wireless router?
[08:21] <genii> ScunziI'm pretty sure you don't want to try and pull a file off something like /dev/sd5 or so without mounting it into a directory first someplace
[08:21] <silent> rockets, it sure is
[08:21] <J-_> !lvm
[08:21] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:21] <helpme> a linksys router that is at my bros
[08:21] <neopsyche> does your ubuntu install recognize the device?
[08:21] <pwndrian> Where can I set the default position at which new windows should be displayed (GNOME)?
[08:21] <genii> Scunzi:  I'm pretty sure you don't want to try and pull a file off something like /dev/sd5 or so without mounting it into a directory first someplace
[08:21] <soulfreshner> helpme, if you take a look at /etc/networking/interfaces, you should set the ssid with preup - I had the same problem, for some reason feisty didn't like setting the sessionid once the interface was up
[08:21] <helpme> no it doesn't
[08:21] <helpme> that I know of
[08:21] <rockets> silent, maybe thats my problem. but it used to work fine without doing that
[08:21] <Scunizi> genii: the drive is mounted.  there just doesn't seem to be a directory option.
[08:21] <helpme> let me try
[08:21] <silent> LVM is godly. merged 3 hard drives to create a 1tb mount
[08:22] <seapiggy> neopsyche, looking...
[08:22] <neopsyche> Check system> prefs >  hwinfo
[08:22] <igge> anyone who knows how to disable the scrollwheel?
[08:22] <neopsyche> seapiggy: thanks
[08:22] <silent> rockets, its a new laptop so I'm not sure as to the history of the issue
[08:22] <neopsyche> helpme: Check system> prefs >  hwinfo
[08:22] <aguiar> see if lnksys is set as ACCESS POINT
[08:22] <seapiggy> what resolution are you wanting?
[08:22] <neopsyche> wanting 1125x768 i think
[08:22] <neopsyche> that is what i had last time i think
[08:23] <neopsyche> Ubuntu worked ok on ATI
[08:23] <genii> Scunizi: Since it's running with local user priveleges, OO will only be able to see directories to which that user running it has rights to. So unless there is a directory owned by that user, it won't see much there
[08:23] <neopsyche> now nvidea on other machine
[08:23] <seapiggy> neopsyche, so this is an nvidia card?
[08:23] <neopsyche> I would like to have the option to change modes if i need to
[08:23] <neopsyche> yes
[08:23] <neopsyche> nvidia yes
[08:23] <helpme> ok I put the /etc/networking/interfaces in and it said no such file or directory
[08:23] <neopsyche> hangon
[08:23] <seapiggy> have you tried the "nv" driver?
[08:23] <neopsyche> pastebin .. original xorg.conf
[08:23] <neopsyche> oh
[08:23] <neopsyche> no
[08:24] <neopsyche> how do i get that?
[08:24] <seapiggy> neopsyche, you are using vesa...
[08:24] <soulfreshner> helpme, there are several versions of the problem as I recall - here's another: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/48153
[08:24] <Scunizi> genii: entire drive is owned by me..
[08:24] <neopsyche> yes
[08:24] <neopsyche> vesa yes
[08:24] <genii> helpme: just network not networking   in that path name
[08:24] <seapiggy> neopsyche, just change vesa to nv
[08:24] <seapiggy> and restart x
[08:24] <neopsyche> hmm
[08:24] <neopsyche> in xorg.conf?
[08:24] <soulfreshner> helpme, so you may need to google a bit - but I'm 90% sure you'll fix it with a preup somewhere :/
[08:24] <neopsyche> ok
[08:24] <seapiggy> neopsyche, - how are you editing the file?
[08:25] <genii> Scunizi: Can you ls the contents of the mountpoint in terminal/console?
[08:25] <seapiggy> neopsyche, do a <ctl><alt><F1> and edit it there  - if X doesnt' start back up you can still edit
[08:25] <neopsyche> seapiggy: nano
[08:25] <neopsyche> ctrl alt f1?
[08:25] <seapiggy> good
[08:25] <seapiggy> yeah
[08:25] <neopsyche> whats that do?
[08:26] <seapiggy> its a non-x tty
[08:26] <Blue89> does ubuntu have any remote control apps out-of-the-box?
[08:26] <Scunizi> genii, oh yea.. from every where else in the system it works.  Even in OO I can "save-as" to that partition.
[08:26] <Blue89> I am trying to help a n0b over IM and he wants me to see for myself
[08:26] <Blue89> n00b*
[08:26] <silent> Blue89, ssh
[08:26] <helpme> ok I have good news it recongnizes the router but it will not connect
[08:27] <jc-denton> hi all
[08:27] <genii> Scunizi: Ah, OK. No other ideas offhand then
[08:27] <soulfreshner> helpme, explain - how does it recognise the router?
[08:27] <junkeR> does anyone know where to find a xubuntu 7.10 changelog?
[08:27] <neopsyche> ok
[08:27] <neopsyche> back
[08:27] <silent> soulfreshner, what do you mean?
[08:27] <helpme> it can see it and try to connect but it wont
[08:27] <neopsyche> so now ctrl alt backspace?
[08:27] <genii> junkeR: They might know in #xubuntu
[08:27] <neopsyche> seapiggy:  so now ctrl alt backspace?
[08:27] <Scunizi> genii: it's frustrating.. OO channel says it's not an OO problem.
[08:27] <neopsyche> going to try
[08:27] <seapiggy> neopsyche, sure
[08:28] <soulfreshner> silent, nick helpme, not helpme help me... :P
[08:28] <neverblue2> anyone know of a site for small audio clips ?
[08:28] <silent> soulfreshner, I see
[08:28] <genii> Scunizi: Did you ask in #kubuntu yet?
[08:28] <krish> mp3?
[08:28] <pike_> neverblue2: smallaudioclips.com
[08:28] <song> my emacs23 told me : cannot open load file:term/x-win . how can i fix it?
[08:28] <DM|> anyone have a good guide for setting up a VPN for remote access?
[08:29] <soulfreshner> helpme: do you have any access control or mac filters on your router?
[08:29] <silent> I personally think all ubuntu support should be handled through #ubuntu while gnome/kde issues should be handled through their respective channels
[08:29] <helpme> no I dont
[08:29] <neverblue2> funny pike, is that your site?
[08:29] <neverblue2> cause its down :P
[08:29] <pike_> neverblue2: jk i used to goto dailywav.com alot
[08:29] <Scunizi> genii. yep.. no good response yet.. however another point. I can choose the mount point to look for the image file and then hand type the remaning path to get to the image.  I just can't browse to it..  arg!
[08:29] <pt> Anyone know about ircd's ?
[08:29] <soulfreshner> helpme: you use dhcp?
[08:29] <helpme> yes
[08:30] <neverblue2> !anyone | pt
[08:30] <ubotu> pt: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:30] <DM|> !VPN
[08:30] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[08:30] <helpme> I've tried to connect with using IP addresses and so on but it still wont connect
[08:30] <pt> Whats a good ircd....
[08:30] <genii> Scunizi: Yeah thats frustrating. I do think it is actually an OOo issue, since it's from within the app and otherwise the mountpoint is correct etc
[08:30] <helpme> How can you scan for wirless ap in the area
[08:30] <ubersoldat> !patch
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <soulfreshner> helpme: if you run ifconfig, do you have any interfaces up?
[08:30] <druke> is there a way to know for sure if a device located.. lets say at /dev/video0 is actually mounted/connected?
[08:31] <DM|> !help | Soulfreshner
[08:31] <ubotu> Soulfreshner: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:31] <DM|> hmm
[08:31] <DM|> forget the bot command lol
[08:31] <genii> pt: ircd-hybrid is not a bad ircd and their website is pretty up to date and informative
[08:31] <DM|> !help | DM|
[08:31] <aguiar> Perhaps on the TOOLS aplication
[08:31] <pt> genii: where does it install to if i install it from synaptic?
[08:32] <silent> !help | ubotu
[08:32] <ubotu> ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:32] <silent> stop talking to yourself
[08:32] <song> Does anyone knows about emacs23 can't start? the message is : cannot open load file:term/x-win
[08:32] <genii> pt: somewhere in /opt directory structure mainly
[08:32] <Graham1> Hi, when I'm installing ubuntu on a pre-partioned pc, it keeps telling me no root directory chosen
[08:32] <seapiggy> song  - try "emacs -nw <filename>"
[08:32] <song> emacs -nw is fine
[08:33] <neverblue2> pt, aptitude search ircd
[08:33] <seapiggy> do you need the x emacs stuff?
[08:33] <Graham1> Hi, when I'm installing ubuntu on a pre-partioned pc, it keeps telling me no root directory chosen (Desktop version)
[08:33] <user934> seapiggy: the video server gives an error
[08:33] <brokensambot> Does anyone here own a Dell 530s?
[08:33] <user934> had to change it back to vesa
[08:33] <user934> i think maby its not installed .. nv driver
[08:33] <brokensambot> If so how are you liking it?
[08:33] <helpme> Yes I have eth1 wlan0 and wmaster0
[08:33] <seapiggy> user934, k
[08:33] <belgarath_> I got no Window decorations when I start X. Everything else works great (I use beryl)
[08:34] <remarK-> Having trouble opening both terminal and software sources. Thoughts?
[08:34] <pt> neverblue: aptitude search?
[08:34] <meek> ;-)
[08:34] <helpme> Yes I have eth0 lo wlan0 and wmaster0
[08:34] <meek> seapiggy: but.. it also says generic video card...
[08:34] <meek> !
[08:34] <seapiggy> meek try this    apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv
[08:34] <bankster> d kub
[08:34] <bankster> I have some question
[08:34] <song> yes , i need
[08:35] <Graham1> Hi, when I'm installing ubuntu on a pre-partioned pc, it keeps telling me no root directory chosen after I chose to do the partition manual, I clicked the partition I wanted, hit okay, then it gave me the error
[08:35] <seapiggy> meek, when you run that does it install or say that it already is installed?
[08:35] <kadakas> Has anyone gotten a CDMA modem working with Ubuntu? How?
[08:35] <P_Kable> hello I need to save my /home/frederic to /media/Elements I get tons of errors by doing   sudo cp -R /home/frederic /media/Elements .... any idea ?
[08:35] <silent> !ask | bankster
[08:35] <ubotu> bankster: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:35] <pt> what is the cmd to enable the root account?
[08:35] <bankster> 555+
[08:35] <silent> pt, why would you want to do that?
[08:35] <Jowi> !root | pt
[08:35] <ubotu> pt: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:35] <Graham1> any idea
[08:35] <seapiggy> pt - sudo bash;passwd
[08:35] <bankster> How can I resize my ubuntu desktop Icon
[08:35] <Scunizi> genii: yep.
[08:35] <meek> seapiggy: nv is already newest?
[08:35] <bankster> I think it too large
[08:35] <Jowi> pt, there you go :) please read the link before enabling it.
[08:35] <song> seapiggy do you know how can i fix it?
[08:35] <soulfreshner> helpme: try ifconfig wlan0 down
[08:36] <seapiggy> pt actually i guess sudo passwd would work
[08:36] <pt> I know about sudo.
[08:36] <P_Kable> anybody please
[08:36] <therion_> Hi all
[08:36] <genii> Graham1: You need to have a partition which is not already in use by some other thing like windows.
[08:36] <soulfreshner> helpme: then iwconfig wlan0 essid "whaddever"
[08:36] <seapiggy> song - I dont' know what you are trying to fix
[08:36] <Graham1> genii, it's a empty partition
[08:36] <silent> pt, why on earth would you enable the root account?
[08:36] <helpme> permission denied
[08:36] <bankster> How can I resize my ubuntu desktop Icon
[08:36] <bankster> How can I resize my ubuntu desktop Icon
[08:36] <bankster> How can I resize my ubuntu desktop Icon
[08:36] <bankster> How can I resize my ubuntu desktop Icon
[08:36] <pt> i don't know silent lol
[08:36] <soulfreshner> helpme: then ifconfig wlan0 up
[08:36] <Gandalf84> how can i erase a CD rewritable?
[08:36] <meek> what happened to the new feisty!? it came with sounds on the gaim client and everything
[08:36] <soulfreshner> helpme - use sudo
[08:37] <therion_> Anybody know how to fix problems like this? http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7150/mohaabug1xp5.png
[08:37] <meek> reinstall with another feisty and none
[08:37] <Jowi> bankster, repeating not needed. right click on the icon and resize it.
[08:37] <song> seapiggy let my emacs23 running in x-window
[08:37] <croese> ruz322: i started the text installer and got a msg about "[...]  ata1.00 set of native returned #somenumber, expected #someothernumber"
[08:37] <genii> Graham1: If it's empty, then make a linux partiton on it somewhere. then you will be able to have a /
[08:37] <pt> Because nothing works on this version of ubuntu. I've had an ircd up before on the old version
[08:37] <meek> it has slightly different names in the aps menu etc too
[08:37] <pt> But this shitty new version doesn't work with anything I want it to.
[08:37] <bankster> umm
[08:37] <soulfreshner> sudo ifconfig wlan0 down, etc
[08:37] <Jowi> pt, which version is that?
[08:37] <bankster> Thanks
[08:37] <pt> Breezy maybe?
[08:37] <silent> pt, you're doing it wrong
[08:37] <meek> no
[08:37] <meek> 7.04
[08:37] <pike_> pt: lol considered etch or something? if its a server thats how id go
[08:37] <pt> silent. I've hosted an ircd 8 times before and i'm not new to ubuntu
[08:37] <helpme> no it says command not found
[08:37] <seapiggy> oh - no idea - I realize this doesnt' help at all but I hate the x version of emacs - I only use it in a terminal ;-) is this xemacs  or emacs?
[08:38] <silent> pt, why are you running an ubuntu server? ubuntu is for desktops
[08:38] <song> it's emacs
[08:38] <helpme> ok
[08:38] <pt> i'm following the same exact tutorial i followed before and using the same versions as i used before
[08:38] <Jowi> pt, breezy is the new version you installed?
[08:38] <jc-denton> does anybody have an idea how to get the Radeon 2600 working with ubuntu
[08:38] <helpme> it didn't say anything after sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[08:38] <pt> silent i'm not running a ubuntu server
[08:38] <jc-denton> i'm currently trying with gutsy
[08:38] <meek> how do i rename in linux?
[08:38] <silent> pt, then why are you in #ubuntu
[08:38] <jc-denton> i guess it's not supported by the open source driver..
[08:39] <Jowi> jc-denton, support for gutsy is in #ubuntu+1
[08:39] <pt> silent and i'm also not talking to you so stfu plz k10x bai
[08:39] <krish> hi
[08:39] <pt> what are you talking about?!?!?!?1
[08:39] <dunno> hello, my name is samina and im a fish brain!
[08:39] <jc-denton> Jowi: yes but there nobody had an idea about fglrx and stuff
[08:39] <krish> i have a broadcom 4318 wireless card
[08:39] <ompaul> !stfu | pt
[08:39] <ubotu> pt: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:39] <krish> on my compaq presario v2000
[08:39] <meek> seapiggy: see original xorg? take a look?
[08:39] <dunno> also aneesah likes fish too!
[08:39] <soulfreshner> helpme: that's ok - do the next commands as well
[08:39] <tarmo> krish - same here
[08:39] <pt> this new version of ubuntu sucks and nothing works. everything worked fine on breezy
[08:39] <krish> :)
[08:39] <pt> the only good thing about this new version is the wobbly windows
[08:39] <Jowi> jc-denton, that's why it's beta. it's either there or the forums for now.
[08:39] <pt> lol
[08:39] <krish> tarmo are u able to connect to any wireless lan?
[08:39] <ompaul> !gutsy | pt
[08:39] <dunno> i have no idea what you are talking about samina!
[08:40] <ubotu> pt: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:40] <helpme> the sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[08:40] <tarmo> same card - works dell d410
[08:40] <silent> pt, you mean the only thing your ignorant self has looked into
[08:40] <kadakas> Has anyone gotten a CDMA 2000 modem working with Ubuntu? How?
[08:40] <kadakas> its connected via USB
[08:40] <pt> silent, i'll rape your fucking face. shut up nigglet
[08:40] <helpme> ok
[08:40] <Jowi> pt, if by "this new version" you mean Gutsy, it is still not released and you need to /join #ubuntu+1
[08:40] <krish> well i need to connect to wireless LAN
[08:40] <seapiggy> meek - yeah repaste the xorg
[08:40] <krish> i am using feisty fawn
[08:40] <pt> Jowi, by that i mean what ever the hell i'm using now that I just dled and installed, and not breezy
[08:40] <silent> pt, it's people like you that poison our community. Please leave and do not come back.
[08:40] <song> seapiggy you know maybe you using English , but i using Chinese,so i must running emacs in x-window can edit Chinese ,please give me some help i'm sorry about my poor English
[08:41] <croese> i started the text installer and got a msg about "[...]  ata1.00 set of native returned #somenumber, expected #someothernumber", anyone know what this means?
[08:41] <tarmo> yes wireless works
[08:41] <krish> how?
[08:41] <meek> seapiggy: original xorg before i edited it... http://pastebin.com/m68515602
[08:41] <krish> tarmo i did this
[08:41] <seapiggy> song have you installed xemacs21 or emacs21?
[08:41] <tarmo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[08:41] <flokuehn> thank you pt
[08:41] <helpme> when you highlight the wirless network thing at the top and it says the ap is that a progress bar next to it or a signal
[08:41] <song> seapiggy no i havn't
[08:42] <krish> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/How_to_get_Broadcom_43xx_Wireless_AirForce54g_card_to_work_proven_in_Ubuntu_Dappe_Drake?s=7053145daf13e86793a1903afaab1211&
[08:42] <krish> tarmo
[08:42] <krish> i did as said in that link
[08:42] <therion_> I've got this problem http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7150/mohaabug1xp5.png in all games (quake3 engine based) after gutsy upgrading.. How to fix it? sry for my English..
[08:42] <krish> and yes the wireless led did light up
[08:42] <seapiggy> song: apt-get install xemacs21
[08:42] <soulfreshner> helpme: yeah - that's the same problem I had - the gui networking tool didn't work for my card
[08:42] <tarmo> same here
[08:42] <krish> but when i try to connect to my wireless lan (has essid and passphrase)
[08:42] <helpme> ok what do I need to do
[08:43] <krish> it is not taking the IP from the wireless router
[08:43] <song> seapiggy i don't understand...
[08:43] <meek> how can i delete current xorg file and replace with old backup?
[08:43] <krish> instead it is taking some 169.x.x.x series
[08:43] <aguiar> helpme> u must check if the Accesspoint is open at the Linksys
[08:43] <soulfreshner> you need to do those 3 commands in a terminal - if it works, you can fix it in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:43] <seapiggy> song - install xemacs
[08:43] <meek> song: you must use terminal program
[08:43] <Jowi> therion_, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support.
[08:43] <meek> !terminal
[08:43] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:43] <therion_> thanks jowi
[08:43] <seapiggy> meek - is this on a notebook?
[08:44] <meek> no
[08:44] <DigDugz> Hmm, this is just evil... been kicked out of debian and ubuntu  (by stew) for the 4th time. Me and others where discussing general governmental policies on the use of GNU/Linux nation wide but it appears they didnt like that. Who am i you might ask... im Magnus-swe of http://www.gadmintools.org or http://mange.dynalias.org/linux.html (Its as if microsoft took over the freenode, tell me its not so! ?)
[08:44] <meek> seapiggy: desktop
[08:44] <song> seapiggy yes,i know .i'm doing that but ,why??
[08:44] <seapiggy> meek - is it an widescreen monitor ?
[08:44] <meek> seapiggy: it is a 19inch 4:3 lcd AViDAV
[08:45] <soulfreshner> helpme: also check these suggestions - http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/linux/2007/06/12/ralink-help-for-ubuntu-feisty-part-2/
[08:45] <seapiggy> song - I really dont' know what difference between emacs and xemacs are, but if you want x support see if the xemacs package works for you
[08:45] <krish> tarmo:
[08:45] <ompaul> DigDugz, that is offtopic for here okay
[08:45] <Pici> !offtopic | DigDugz
[08:45] <ubotu> DigDugz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:45] <flokuehn> meek: isnt it possible just to replace the new one by the old one?
[08:45] <pbbirdman> swing
[08:45] <meek> but.. when i previously installed on my shuttle XPC the gfx ATI auto detect/installed the right drivers/size
[08:45] <seapiggy> meek do you know what the native resolution for the screen is?
[08:45] <Pici> DigDugz: You can join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[08:45] <meek> got 1125x768 etc.
[08:46] <meek> i think it is 5:4 actually so .. 1125x768 looks good ;-)
[08:46] <meek> :0)
[08:46] <meek> :-)
[08:46] <dansku> why cant I install pidgin, it says there's some problem because of gaim. what should i do?
[08:46] <DigDugz> ompaul, pici: I started coding in 1986... One of you needs to tell me about what i might have missed since then...
[08:46] <meek> dansku: unistall gaim first
[08:46] <meek> ?
[08:46] <dansku> how do i do that w
[08:46] <dansku> ?
[08:47] <meek> dansku: synaptic
[08:47] <seapiggy> meek, so when you tried the nv driver it said that the driver wasnt' found?
[08:47] <meek> !synaptic
[08:47] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:47] <helpme> command ok I just installed wifiradar
[08:47] <krish> anyone
[08:47] <krish> pls
[08:47] <meek> no no.. the driver was located originally upon install.. however .. when i reconfigured xorg i chose vesa .. it gave me that as default and diddnt detect nv
[08:47] <krish> pointers
[08:48] <DigDugz> Im missing a clu, been coding for you.. let me knew (.. aww, cmon!)
[08:48] <helpme> it doesn't see any aps though
[08:48] <dansku> should i unninstal everything with gaim name?
[08:48] <ompaul> DigDugz, you are offtopic for this support channel
[08:48] <seapiggy> meek - I know but you said you tried changing it to nv, correct? what did it tell you when you tried that?
[08:48] <helpme> Does anyone use wifiradar
[08:48] <fiXXXerMet> Are there any linux programs that are similar to Norton Ghost for network backups/restores/images?
[08:49] <swhalen> All my GTK themes are broken
[08:49] <Pici> DigDugz: I'm not sure what you are talking about.  This channel here is only for Ubuntu support, if you just want to talk programming with us you can join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:49] <meek> yes
[08:50] <meek> got blue screen on restart
[08:50] <meek> so changed back to other settings
[08:50] <LiMaO> fiXXXerMet: partimage
[08:50] <seapiggy> meek : blue screen?
[08:50] <meek> yes.. with red option for yes to see error log
[08:50] <meek> after reboot
[08:50] <helpme> Can someone help me with my ubuntu
[08:51] <helpme> it will not connect to the internet
[08:51] <meek> helpme: ?>
[08:51] <seapiggy> meek ic
[08:51] <croese> i started the text installer and got a msg about "[...]  ata1.00 set of native returned #somenumber, expected #someothernumber", anyone know what this means?
[08:51] <swhalen> Inned help with gtk
[08:51] <recon> I just royally screwed up my X. I was setting up XGL as an experiment, and all hell broke loose. I reversed the steps, and stuff still isn't working. I made sure AIGLX was off by doing a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and all X does now is perpetually load the login screen.
[08:51] <helpme> I am tryin to connect to an ap with a belkin wirless usb unit
[08:51] <flokuehn> meek: have you tried to reconfigure your xorg?
[08:52] <seapiggy> meek, well I have always just changed it to nv, and been up and running - I guess you could install the nvidia binary driver, but it shouldnt' have to
[08:52] <meek> whats this about seapiggy? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[08:52] <dooglus> I rebooted earlier, and my ext3 partition was checked (it's been 31 mounts without a check, etc).  It told me it is 10% fragmented, but didn't offer to defrag.  Where's the defrag tool?  My system keeps getting slower and slower - I reckon a defrag might help.  What do you guys do about the problem?
[08:52] <meek> seapiggy: up and running? meaning you got higher than 1024x768
[08:52] <meek> ?
[08:53] <flokuehn> meek: thats it
[08:53] <flokuehn> meek
[08:53] <Cassius> hi
[08:53] <seapiggy> meek - yes meaning that i could run what ever res i needed
[08:53] <Cassius> how can i upgrade to rc1 from beta gutsy?
[08:53] <seapiggy> but I think flokuehn is correct, try the reconfigure step on that page
[08:53] <helpme> Excuse me but could someone please help
[08:53] <flokuehn> meek: you have an nvidia card?
[08:54] <meek> yes
[08:54] <DigDugz> OmPaul is botty aint it ? ... blowhardestwinterwepz
[08:54] <meek> "nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GS] "
[08:54] <flokuehn> meek: because if you can also install the nvidia-kernel-modules etc
[08:54] <flokuehn> meek: i have 7600 gt ;)
[08:54] <silent[ca] > meek, why not an 8-series card?
[08:54] <meek> cool
[08:54] <DigDugz> Anyhoo
[08:54] <flokuehn> meek: nad it works
[08:54] <meek> hmm
[08:54] <flokuehn> meek: so have a try
[08:54] <meek> how to install kernel ?
[08:54] <meek> im going to be downgrading the card soon
[08:54] <meek> to the card below this
[08:55] <Gek_> sup guys
[08:55] <flokuehn> you have to install this kernel modules to get the nvidia driver
[08:55] <silent[ca] > meek, why
[08:55] <Gek_> can someone help me with a shared folder permissions issue?
[08:55] <Gek_> i created a smb share
[08:55] <meek> a friend is loaning me the card and he is bridging his two cards soon.
[08:55] <Gek_> where are permissions shared.
[08:55] <silent[ca] > Gek_, I have lots of experience with sharse
[08:55] <Gek_> or set
[08:55] <stefg_> !samba | Gek_
[08:55] <ubotu> Gek_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:55] <flokuehn> meek: have an moment and i will tell you howto install the kernel thing
[08:56] <helpme> I need help with connecting ubuntu to the internet via usb wirless belkin reciever
[08:56] <Cassius> how can i upgrade to rc1 from beta gutsy?
[08:56] <silent[ca] > Gek_, do you mean fs/dir permissions or samba permissions?
[08:56] <helpme> Please help
[08:56] <stefg_> !wifi | helpme
[08:56] <ubotu> helpme: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:56] <Gek_> yes i suppose
[08:56] <meek> flokuehn: will that give me higher modes?
[08:56] <helpme> Yeah I've gotten them
[08:56] <helpme> s
[08:56] <silent[ca] > meek, I'm planning on getting a second 8800 gts when crysis comes out
[08:56] <Gek_> i created a share.  when i try to access it from another computer \\rubuntu\ryans it asks for a username and password
[08:56] <silent[ca] > meek, bridging them
[08:57] <Gek_> !samba
[08:57] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:57] <silent[ca] > Gek_, you should use swat
[08:57] <meek> silent[ca] : adding two cards in one machine
[08:57] <silent[ca] > Gek_, makes samba administration easy
[08:57] <silent[ca] > meek, sli
[08:57] <flokuehn> meek: this ist the nvidia one-liner
[08:57] <meek> seapiggy: any ideas?
[08:57] <flokuehn> meek: apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:57] <arnath> hi, i'm trying to run photoshop on linux, but i'm having a problem when trying to right click -> open with photoshop. it opens up photoshop, then says "could not open ... because of a disk error"
[08:58] <bluequijote> someone works with a account application?
[08:58] <flokuehn> dont forget the second sudo after &&
[08:58] <silent[ca] > Gek_, apt-get install swat
[08:58] <remarK-> gnome-terminal will not launch and i can't seem to figure out the reason.
[08:58] <flokuehn> at least i dont know if there are any higher modes
[08:58] <bewst> Several of my packages are being held back; how can I find out why, and decide whether it's safe to force an upgrade?
[08:58] <Jowi> arnath, I guess #winehq is a better channel to ask in
[08:58] <flokuehn> but i konw that my card didnt work properly without this nvidia driver
[08:58] <arnath> Jowi: ah yes
[08:58] <meek> thanks it is updating
[08:58] <stefg_> arnath: your probably better served at #winehq
[08:59] <flokuehn> meek: i hope it works for you too
[08:59] <kadakas> so no CDMA modem experience here ?
[08:59] <meek> how can i configure ubuntu so that every time i type sudo apt-get i dont have to go sudo su first?
[08:59] <meek> thanks flokuehn
[08:59] <Sitowlan> meek, alias
[09:00] <meek> alias?
[09:00] <Jowi> meek, you add your user with the NOPASSWD option to /etc/sudoers. see "man sudoers" for more info and correct syntax
[09:00] <meek> strange i never had to do that previous install
[09:00] <meek> (user)
[09:00] <bluequijote> anyone?
[09:01] <meek> thanks jowi
[09:01] <Pici> bluequijote: hmm?
[09:01] <Jowi> meek, that is, if you want the user to execute apt-get without being asked for a password. all users in "admin" group should be able to use "sudo apt-get" and is then asked for password.
[09:01] <Cassius> how can i upgrade to rc1 from beta gutsy?
[09:01] <meek> yes but for some reason it wants me to use sudo su
[09:01] <Pici> Cassius: yes, further questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:01] <meek> first
[09:01] <stefg_> Cassius: you don't want that
[09:02] <meek> then it wants password
[09:02] <Terry2> hey everyone
[09:02] <Pici> Cassius: If you've been keeping it up to date you are running the RC
[09:02] <Jowi> meek, that does not make sence to me. "sudo su" would give you a root prompt, in which case you don't need to use sudo at all.
[09:02] <Cassius> oh thx
[09:03] <stefg_> !sudo | meek
[09:03] <ubotu> meek: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:03] <sashimi> hi everybody
[09:03] <Terry2> i have a quick question for you guys about the livecd
[09:03] <Jowi> meek, have you by any chance copied over old /etc/... files from the old ubuntu install?
[09:03] <meek> Jowi: human error:
[09:03] <meek> andrew@videoserver1:~$ apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:03] <meek> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:03] <meek> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[09:03] <sashimi> 'hoping to find some answers about bluetooth in gusty
[09:03] <Pici> !paste | meek
[09:03] <ubotu> meek: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:03] <sashimi> anyone here using bluetooth ?
[09:03] <Terry2> i have an nvidia 8600 series card. I was wondering if theres any way to use nvidia drivers with the livecd, since i know it doesnt come with it
[09:03] <meek> andrew@videoserver1:~$ apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:03] <kBAKED> I need to format a ntfs partition to fat, can someone recommend a program?
[09:03] <meek> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:03] <meek> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[09:04] <stefg_> meek: close synaptic
[09:04] <meek> I see now
[09:04] <Terry2> if I downloaded and ran the installer, would it work? or is the only way to install the whole OS
[09:04] <arnath> Jowi: not getting much of a response in winehq, could anyone venture a guess? (it could be linux-related instead of wine)
[09:04] <Naitse> is there a beryl channel here? on spanis?
[09:04] <Naitse> spanish
[09:04] <stefg_> meek: and stop that flooding
[09:04] <meek> yes closed
[09:04] <stefg_> !es | Naitse
[09:04] <meek> apologies stefg_ getting used to gaim
[09:04] <ubotu> Naitse: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:04] <Jowi> meek, "sudo apt-get install nvidiblabla && sudo dpkg-reconfigure..." the lock error usually means that apt is busy (you might have synaptic package manager or aptitude open already=
[09:04] <Jowi> )
[09:04] <steph__> yop
[09:04] <TriGz_> Can anyone tell me how to write a bootable C with linux? ^^
[09:05] <Naitse> thanks!!
[09:05] <heguru> kBAKED: do you want to preserve data?
[09:05] <keito> anyone feeling sassy with my mounting problems here is a pastebin of the error http://pastebin.com/m30e51ffa
[09:05] <keito> partition will NOT BOOT but goes to busybox initfsram and tells me can't access tty: job control turned off. then livecd can't mount the same disk that errors telling me "mount: wrong fs type bad option bad superblock missing codepage or other error".  tried supergrubdisc but grub is now working it's just the disk not mounting that is screwed
[09:05] <meek> Jowi: on previous installation i could install multiple apt-get at same time in seperate terminal windows
[09:06] <fuzzyhair> Any way I can connect to poker.com with ubuntu?
[09:06] <tck> silly question, is ubuntu based on debian experimental or ubuntu unstable ?
[09:06] <meek> uh
[09:06] <meek> fuzzyhair: whats the problem?
[09:06] <tck> ive heard conflicting info from diff. websites
[09:06] <steph__> just a question : how can I add a respository to my sources.list in a simple single commande line ? I tried sudo echo "myrepo" >> /etc/apt/sources.list, but still get 'Permission Denied'
[09:06] <youknowme> Whats a good video editing program for linux? I want to edit .MOV files, and add music .ect
[09:06] <keito> tck: debian unstable
[09:06] <Jowi> meek, that is not possible nowadays due to that there can be corruption in the apt cache (or something similar. that's why there is a lock used now)
[09:06] <meek> fuzzyhair: gambling is bad .. so, I prefer not to say how. ;-)
[09:07] <meek> ok
[09:07] <keito> youknowme: try lives (think it does mov)
[09:07] <meek> ;-)
[09:07] <fuzzyhair> meek: It's not for me, but the person it's for plays with play money out of boredom.
[09:07] <youknowme> keito: is it in add/remove?
[09:08] <meek> whats the problem fuzzyhair?
[09:08] <TriGz_> Blue89: i ment CD, sorry :P
[09:08] <Terry2> er, is there an ubuntu channel that isnt as busy, that i could get help with the livecd? i dont want to bother anybody and this place seems quite busy :/
[09:08] <keito> youknowme: erm ,don't know off the top of my head but pretty sure you can apt-get it
[09:08] <fuzzyhair> meek: I need to know how to run the client in Ubuntu.
[09:08] <Blue89> ah, bootable CD
[09:08] <Jowi> steph__, the best way is to place a file called "myrepo.list" with the "deb ..." line in it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ . then run sudo apt-get update.
[09:08] <keito> youknowme: i'm using a livecd at the mo as my system is KO'd
[09:08] <meek> client?
[09:08] <keito> youknowme: if you know how to fix my problem just yell ;0) lol
[09:08] <youknowme> keito: O that sucks dude, I feel your pain :)
[09:09] <steph__> Oo
[09:09] <Gek_> is there a reason that vi is broken?
[09:09] <meek> Im not sure what you are referring to fuzzyhair.
[09:09] <steph__> ok, i'm gonna try that
[09:09] <keito> youknowme: ty
[09:09] <steph__> thank you !
[09:09] <Gek_> do i need to change my default bash or something?
[09:09] <hendrixski> I apt-get installed mysql-client in a chroot, now when I try to run mysql in that chroot it tells me "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" ... and I have no /var/run/mysqld folder :-(
[09:09] <meek> if there is a client needed for poker.com rather head on over to another game site.
[09:09] <fuzzyhair> meek: sorry. I get those 2 confused. It's called carbon poker.
[09:09] <TriGz_> yes Blue89 :P
[09:09] <astinus-work> Good Evening :) I'm having a problem with LTSP after upgrading to Gutsy Gibbon, all my clients use NFS and I'm getting a lot of complaints from thin clients about necessary directories being mounted r/o despite being specified as rw_dirs= in the ltsp-client-setup file
[09:09] <meek> not sure about that.
[09:09] <meek> unfortuantely
[09:09] <hendrixski> do I need to install anything else to get that mysqld folder?
[09:09] <heguru> astinus-work: for gutsy support join #ubuntu+1
[09:10] <hendrixski> or is there a common fix for something like that?
[09:10] <meek> there are plenty of interesting things for feistyu
[09:10] <meek> games
[09:10] <astinus-work> heguru: Which is exceedingly unhelpful as nobody in there (289 people) seems to use LTSP
[09:10] <keito> anyone feeling sassy with my mounting problems here is a pastebin of the error http://pastebin.com/m30e51ffa partition will NOT BOOT but goes to busybox initfsram and tells me can't access tty: job control turned off. then livecd can't mount the same disk that errors telling me "mount: wrong fs type bad option bad superblock missing codepage or other error".  tried supergrubdisc but grub is now working it's just the disk not mounti
[09:10] <Pici> astinus-work: Gutsy is offtopic for this channel until it is released.
[09:10] <d90> what is best hex editor
[09:10] <Jowi> astinus-work, #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support
[09:10] <meek> hey I installed ubuntu on my other machine it gave me a ton of games automatically in the add/remove section.. even flight of the amazon queen .. but now there is no more.   when i install on new machine?
[09:10] <steph__> Jowi, I still get that Permission denied !
[09:11] <astinus-work> Great. So Ubuntu encourages people to upgrade so they get good bug reports, and then f*cks users over with LTSP not working, and when people try to get help, a bunch of pompous folks just go "OMG! You're in the wrong channel d00d. plz2F*ckOff." - yet Linux zealots wonder why Windows is used by business? :P
[09:11] <keito> meek: have you sudo apt-get update?
[09:11] <hendrixski> I apt-get installed mysql-client now when I try to run mysql i it tells me "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" ... but I have no /var/run/mysqld folder :-(  Is there something else I should be need to do?
[09:11] <heguru> astinus-work: Ubuntu NEVER encourages people to upgrade to pre-release
[09:12] <meek> oh i see .. check all available ;-)
[09:12] <steph__> 1. cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   2. sudo touch myrepos.list 3. sudo echo 'therepo' >> myrepos.list 4. Permission denied :/
[09:12] <Gek_> in VI.... arrow keys dont' work properly
[09:12] <keito> meek: worth a try ;)
[09:12] <Gek_> any reason for this?
[09:12] <Gek_> or how can i fix it?
[09:12] <Gek_> !vi
[09:12] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[09:12] <TriGz_> Can anyone tell me how to write a bootable CD (i have the iso) please? :)
[09:12] <Gek_> =\
[09:12] <hendrixski> Gek_, try vim :-)
[09:12] <waldo323> astinus-work, seems like the ltsp channel has some activity
[09:12] <Pici> waldo323: Hes not here anymore
[09:12] <TriGz_> !vi Gek_
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vi gek_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <Jowi> steph__, "sudo -i" to get a root terminal then try again without sudo
[09:13] <TriGz_> fs
[09:13] <waldo323> Pici, oops thanks
[09:13] <TriGz_> i missed the m too
[09:13] <TriGz_> lol >.<
[09:13] <hendrixski> Gek_, they never worked right in regular vi, in my oppinion  you had to hit like jkli instead of up down left right
[09:13] <d90> I need urgently hex editor, so what is best hex editor, please
[09:13] <henen> hello
[09:13] <flokuehn> meek: i found an nice entry in the ubuntuusers wiki for sudoers
[09:13] <Scunizi> I'm trying to instert a .jpg image and OO complains "Graphics filter not found".  Gif's work fine.. Where/How do I get and activate the appropriate filters to insert jpg files?
[09:13] <meek> what should i use for my identifier for my videocard in xorg?
[09:13] <flokuehn> meek: want it ?
[09:13] <hendrixski> d90, hexedit, if you don't mind doing it from command line
[09:13] <steph__> yeah, with sudo -i, it does work
[09:13] <heguru> TriGz_: follow the instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19428.html
[09:13] <flokuehn> meek: but its in german
[09:14] <steph__> but I'd like to add my repo in a single commande line
[09:14] <TriGz_> heguru: thanks.
[09:14] <meek> das no good ek english
[09:14] <meek> ;-)
[09:14] <meek> but thanks anyway
[09:14] <flokuehn> meek: :)
[09:14] <flokuehn> meek: everytime:)
[09:14] <chuy_max> can anyone help me set up my elo touch screen monitor?, I plugged it in but it doesn't work out of the box
[09:14] <chuy_max> xserver-xorg-input-elographics package is already installed
[09:14] <TriGz_> heguru:  i already have the iso, i just need an app to burn it >.<
[09:15] <hendrixski> help :-)  I apt-get installed mysql-client now when I try to run mysql i it tells me "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" ... but I have no /var/run/mysqld folder :-(  Is there something else I should be need to do?
[09:15] <heguru> TriGz_: right click at the .iso file and click at burn
[09:15] <keito> holy cow batman, I just held my finger on "Y" to fix errors using fsck and I was doing it for like 2min at least... yowsers
[09:15] <Jowi> steph__, it should probably work with "sudo -s command" as well.
[09:15] <TriGz_> heguru:  it didnt boot, already tried that.
[09:15] <Scunizi> hendrixski: you might also ask in #ubuntu-server
[09:15] <hendrixski> Scunizi, will do
[09:16] <heguru> TriGz_: then its something with the .iso, you can also try gnomebaker
[09:16] <meek> what do i put for amount of KB to be used for gfx card ... if my card already has 256 onboard?
[09:16] <TriGz_> hm
[09:16] <Jowi> steph__, hmm, just tried sudo -s but that also gave permission denied.
[09:16] <TriGz_> heguru:  thanks.
[09:16] <heguru> TriGz_: you can check if the .iso file is ok by doing an md5sum
[09:16] <keito> MY FILES ARE BACK!!!!!!!!!! I FIXED IT. YAAAAHOOOOO!!! :) :)
[09:16] <TriGz_> heguru:  how do i do a md5sum?
[09:16] <igge> /bin/arch: No such file or directory <-- what's going on (gutsy)
[09:17] <flokuehn> meek: that doesnt matter
[09:17] <heguru> TriGz_: on the terminal go to the folder with the iso file and type: md5sum filename.iso
[09:17] <stefg_> !gutsy | igge
[09:17] <ubotu> igge: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:17] <flokuehn> meek: i also let it be
[09:17] <keito> !fsck
[09:17] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[09:17] <heguru> TriGz_: this will give you a hash value, match it with the hash value available on the website where you downloaded the iso from
[09:17] <veynom> i have a question
[09:17] <Jowi> steph__, seems like everything after "sudo echo" is ignored and the rest of the command is done as your normal user account. that's why you get permission denied.
[09:17] <igge> stefg_: i know what gutsy is... but why doesn't it have a /bin/arch command?
[09:17] <heguru> !ask | veynom
[09:17] <ubotu> veynom: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:18] <veynom> is it possible to hook up to two networks at the same time and do a shotgun like download thing
[09:18] <meek> flokuehn: ok thanks
[09:18] <steph__> okkk
[09:18] <steph__> thanks.
[09:18] <Kaso> Hi, I've got no idea what sound chip my PC has (short of actually cracking it open and finding the chip), and ubuntu hasnt auto-done the drives for it, is there anyway i can identify the hardware i have in my system to aid me searching for drivers ?
[09:18] <veynom> download the same content but be on two connections through one computer
[09:18] <stefg_> igge: gutsy questions in #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <derFuchs> hi
[09:18] <meek> folkuehn: use kernel framebuffer device?
[09:18] <heguru> veynom: if on both sides there are linux routers which you have access to then yes, if you want to speed up internet downloads this way then no
[09:18] <chuy_max> anyone can help me activate a elo touch screen monitor?
[09:19] <meek> use kernel framebuffer device?
[09:19] <veynom> like a linux computer acting as a router?
[09:19] <flokuehn> meek: no
[09:19] <meek> ok thanks
[09:19] <derFuchs> where can i get informations about my lcd-panel that is build in my notebook
[09:19] <heguru> veynom: you can however use two connections to load balance (i.e. when you download two files from two location they will download concurrently, one on each connection)
[09:19] <heguru> veynom: yes
[09:19] <veynom> cool
[09:20] <song> i installed xemacs ,but my emacs23 still can be start in x-window:'(
[09:20] <meek> Xorg modules that should be loaded by default???
[09:20] <heguru> veynom: goto lartc.org for more information
[09:20] <song> can't
[09:20] <flokuehn> is this an list ?
[09:20] <juano> long live TIRC
[09:21] <juano> color
[09:21] <Jowi> meek, bitmap, ddc, dri, extmod, freetype, glx, int10, vbe should be enough
[09:21] <veynom> is there a way to find  out when a user was last on irc?
[09:21] <flokuehn> meek: you can do as jowi wrote
[09:21] <silent[ca] > clear
[09:22] <silent[ca] > !clear
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clear - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <meek> wondering what i need to put in to get high res
[09:22] <flokuehn> meek: what do you mean?
[09:22] <meek> thats whats on by default
[09:22] <meek> but is there anything else i might need?
[09:22] <flokuehn> meek: there are some marked
[09:23] <meek> yeah
[09:23] <Jowi> Kaso, yeah. you can have a look here: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[09:23] <meek> defaults
[09:23] <meek> already mentioned
[09:23] <flokuehn> meek: if the one you want is also marked
[09:23] <flokuehn> then just hit enter
[09:23] <flokuehn> and go on
[09:23] <flokuehn> ;)
[09:23] <meek> uh..
[09:23] <meek> hmm
[09:23] <flokuehn> meek: if not mark it
[09:23] <meek> I dont know what they do
[09:23] <Kaso> Jowi that is awesome, thanks
[09:23] <meek> v4l?
[09:24] <flokuehn> meek: they are just for reason
[09:24] <meek> is there an alternative used in nv?
[09:24] <flokuehn> meek: i guess so
[09:24] <meek> horizontal and vertical refresh rates?
[09:25] <flokuehn> meek: pass it
[09:25] <meek> my monitor is 19inch
[09:25] <meek> pass it?//
[09:25] <flokuehn> meek: i didnt change it for mine
[09:25] <meek> but it wants me to set something... Advanced etc.
[09:25] <meek> yes but i want to use higher than 1024x768 on highest possible refresh
[09:26] <meek> ok
[09:26] <meek> going for refresh of xorg
[09:26] <meek> hope it works
[09:26] <flokuehn> meek: what resolutions have you choosen?
[09:26] <comicinke1> hi! has anybody experience with data rescue?
[09:27] <comicinke1> I destroyed my ext2 superblock
[09:27] <Mar1> hi, last week I installed compiz and it's working perfectly (almost :)).. I have 4 virtual desktops in 1 row, but when I switch with CTRL-ALT-left/right, the system shifts two views to the left/right. It's impossible to get to desktop 2 and 4
[09:27] <Mar1> does anyone have an idea where to start fixing this ?
[09:27] <crackintosh> Does anyone have SVN installed
[09:27] <crackintosh> or websvn for that matter?
[09:27] <comicinke1> but I heard that the superblock has backups somewhere
[09:28] <juano> colour
[09:28] <Pici> crackintosh: Depends on what the question is.
[09:28] <comicinke1> anyone who can help me?
[09:28] <justin__> hey all...i've got a bcm4318 running using ndiswrapper....networkmanager doesn't seem to like it as it won't connect to my wireless network..it shows up, but won't connect.  however, if i use sudo dhclient, it connects no problem....i read bout wicd but wasn't sure that was the route i should go..any help is appreciated....thanks!!
[09:28] <stefg_> comicinke1: man fsck.ext2 .... the -b option
[09:28] <Creed> I need a little help with my tftp server...I installed tftpd-hpa and dhcpd3, it was working fine last night but today I get and IP from the DHCP server but theres a "TFTP Timeout" error.
[09:29] <juano> quit
[09:29] <juano> exit
[09:30] <comicinke1> stefg_ I tried already that. but it tells me again it cannot find the superblock
[09:30] <L> heho guys
[09:31] <L> smbd here?
[09:31] <L> )
[09:31] <stefg_> comicinke1: what happened to that filesystem ?
[09:31] <bankster> umm
[09:31] <bankster> how can I use windows live ID with gaim ?
[09:31] <crackintosh> Pici: I installed websvn and it cannot find /var/lib/svn So I am wondering where svn installs on ubuntu
[09:32] <crackintosh> Pici: I did locate svn and locate subversion
[09:32] <chippy> bankster, it's a MSN account to choose
[09:32] <bankster> I have gmail that already register to wl id
[09:32] <crackintosh> Pici: But was not able to find anything
[09:32] <bankster> again please
[09:32] <Creed> I need a little help with my tftp server...I installed tftpd-hpa and dhcpd3, it was working fine last night but today I get and IP from the DHCP server but theres a "TFTP Timeout" error.
[09:32] <bankster> gaim seem to accept hotmail only
[09:32] <Pici> crackintosh: dpkg -L packagename
[09:33] <Pici> crackintosh: That will tell you where all the files installed to
[09:33] <comicinke1> stefg_ I don't know exactly. maybe the file system was not unmounted clearly, or two different partitioning tools tried to access the drive
[09:33] <chippy> hotmail is windows live mail
[09:33] <comicinke1> it happened during a gutsy install
[09:33] <bankster> I know
[09:33] <bankster> but I can use gmail
[09:33] <bankster> can't use
[09:34] <juano> is someone using TIRC ?
[09:34] <comicinke1> stef_g: so can I get the superblock back with a copy?
[09:34] <bankster> I can use gmail account with windows live messenger
[09:34] <hendrixski> if a package installation breaks, what can I do to fix it?
[09:34] <bankster> but It can't with gaim
[09:35] <Jowi> hendrixski, depends on the error and how you installed the package.
[09:35] <chippy> as IM/Chat?
[09:35] <bankster> yeps!!
[09:35] <stefg_> comicinke1: so there might be no backup superblock anymore. usually -b 32768 on 4k filesystem
[09:35] <silent[ca] > how do I get rhythmbox to play m4a files?
[09:35] <bankster> sorry 4 my damn eng
[09:35] <bankster> I from th
[09:35] <bankster> im from th
[09:35] <FlyingPig> i have question about gutsy gibbon
[09:35] <hendrixski> Jowi, E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:36] <jeff__k> !root
[09:36] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:36] <DigDugz> Listen up! ... people with m$ stock are gonna feel grumpy for a while, theese might be your frinds and such. Do not listen to them and if youre a coder, then code (Been here done that... its no biggie)
[09:36] <stefg_> FlyingPig: #ubuntu+1
[09:36] <FlyingPig> stefg_ thanks
[09:36] <chippy> bankster, i use an XMPP account
[09:36] <comicinke1> stef_g can I get the blocksize by myself, or do I have to try them out?
[09:36] <juano> chippy hello
[09:37] <bankster> chippy , what is it ?
[09:37] <Jowi> silent[ca] , "file song.extension" should tell you which encoder you need to install. Rhythmbox uses gstreamer codecs
[09:37] <comicinke1> stef_g: it is a 200GB disk, with no partitions
[09:37] <juano> hello all
[09:37] <bankster> juana , hello too
[09:37] <Jowi> hendrixski, for which package and which version of ubuntu?
[09:37] <bankster> juano
[09:37] <bankster> sorry
[09:37] <stefg_> comicinke1: if you left everything as it was then you most probably have a 4k blocksize
[09:38] <hendrixski> Jowi, for mysql-server
[09:38] <gonzaloaf_work> hi can I set a environment variable to be the default for all my wide system and users?
[09:38] <chippy> banskter http://wiki.freeculture.org/Google_talk_with_Gaim_and_Pidgin
[09:38] <heydean> wat up ppl
[09:38] <chippy> jabber for gaim, sorry xmpp for pidgin
[09:38] <Jowi> hendrixski, the one in the main repo or another version. again for which version of ubuntu?
[09:39] <bewst> Packages are being kept back; I can find out "why" but I don't know what to do about it.  Who can help me?
[09:40] <forest252525> i was able to use my wireless network but i connected to another one at work and now i can't connect to mine, does anyone know what to do?
[09:40] <hendrixski> Jowi, feisty, from the main repo
[09:40] <Jowi> silent[ca] , so if the "file songname" returns "MP3 encoding" you would "apt-cache search gstreamer mp3" to find the package you need (just a basic example)
[09:41] <bewst> forest252525: what happens when you try to connect?  Are you using networkmanager?
[09:41] <silent[ca] > Jowi, I'm thinking I'll just wine foobar2000
[09:41] <Jowi> hendrixski, can you pastebin the entire command + error you get?
[09:41] <CapaH> Does anyone here know if LivePerson software works well with Wine/Ubuntu ?
[09:41] <forest252525> network settings
[09:41] <bewst> forest252525: you're not on feisty?
[09:41] <forest252525> no
[09:41] <justin__> hey all...i've got a bcm4318 running using ndiswrapper....networkmanager doesn't seem to like it as it won't connect to my wireless network..it shows up, but won't connect.  however, if i use sudo dhclient, it connects no problem....i read bout wicd but wasn't sure that was the route i should go..any help is appreciated....thanks!!
[09:41] <forest252525> oh yes
[09:41] <forest252525> feasy
[09:41] <forest252525> feisy
[09:41] <forest252525> 7.04
[09:42] <hendrixski> Jowi, yep... one second...
[09:42] <bewst> forest252525: so you have an icon in your top panel that can be used to control the network?
[09:42] <Muhammad> I want help   I can't open my fat32 partitions at ubuntu
[09:42] <bewst> forest252525: what happens when you click it?
[09:42] <forest252525> yes the 2 box taht lokks like tv
[09:43] <bewst> forest252525: do you get a menu when you click it?
[09:43] <forest252525> yes
[09:43] <bewst> forest252525: what's in the menu?
[09:43] <forest252525> i have the choice between wire and manual
[09:43] <stefg_> !mountwindows | Muhammad
[09:43] <ubotu> Muhammad: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:43] <Muhammad>  I want help   I can't open my fat32 partitions at ubuntu
[09:43] <bewst> forest252525: what happens when you right-click it?
[09:43] <silent[ca] > Jowi,  ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, iTunes AAC-LC
[09:43] <bewst> forest252525: do you see "enable wireless" there?
[09:43] <shimizu> !tea
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tea - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <forest252525> enable networking is checke
[09:43] <shimizu> ;/
[09:43] <forest252525> checked
[09:43] <heartsblood> is it possible to string commands together in sudo without -i?
[09:44] <bewst> forest252525: and "enable wireless?"
[09:44] <heartsblood> with sudo*
[09:44] <forest252525> not threr
[09:44] <forest252525> there
[09:44] <hendrixski> Jowi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40442/
[09:44] <bewst> OK, left click and select Manual Configuration
[09:44] <forest252525> but i don't think it was there when is was working
[09:44] <Muhammad> ubotu: thx         I will see now
[09:44] <heartsblood> sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will only complete the first command
[09:44] <forest252525> done
[09:45] <bewst> forest252525: do you see an entry for "wireless connection?"
[09:45] <forest252525> yes
[09:45] <bewst> forest252525: does it say "roaming mode enabled?"
[09:45] <forest252525> no
[09:45] <heguru> heartsblood: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:45] <Vorondil> Hi all, I'm using a CLI install of 7.04 that I've built up to an x11 desktop.   I can't seem to get arecord to record input to my mic.  http://pastebin.com/me3104bc  Here's the output of amixer, arecord -L, and a test using arecord/aplay.  When I playback the file, I get silence.  I can hear mic input through my speakers.  Could someone take a look and tell me where I might be going wrong?  Thanks.
[09:45] <bewst> forest252525: double-click it and check "enable roaming mode"
[09:46] <mandrake> ciao
[09:46] <DigDugz> Hi, im Magnus-swe of gadmintools.org  Do you like all the apps ive coded since 1996 (if you say yes id be really happy)
[09:46] <Jowi> silent[ca] , I think "gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad" should be able to play itunes files but haven't tried it.
[09:46] <heartsblood> heguru: so i have to initiate sude at each command?
[09:46] <heartsblood> sudo*
[09:46] <forest252525> done
[09:46] <heguru> heartsblood: yes if you want to run them as root
[09:46] <Silver_Shadow> 'sera
[09:46] <bewst> forest252525: OK that dialog, close network settings, right click your network manager icon and deselect "enable networking"
[09:46] <ubuntu_> hola
[09:46] <comicinke1> stef_g: so do you know how many copys of the superblock exist?
[09:47] <Silver_Shadow> come si fa per vedere se sono attivi i bluetooth?
[09:47] <heartsblood> seems kinda wasteful.
[09:47] <bewst> forest252525: brb
[09:47] <silent[ca] > Jowi, it's installed so I guess not
[09:47] <forest252525> k
[09:47] <heartsblood> heguru: ty for the input though.  appricated as always here.
[09:47] <Jowi> hendrixski, "debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed" >> do you have apt-utils installed?
[09:47] <DigDugz> gproftpd, gdhcpd, servo chipset code, suid code, httpd code,  bin2iso
[09:47] <DigDugz> gsambad
[09:47] <hendrixski> Jowi, I'll give that a try
[09:48] <aguitel> !php
[09:48] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:48] <DigDugz> Give me a fucking "Hurray!" plz :)
[09:48] <corentin`> Hi all
[09:48] <Muhammad> ubotu: I forgot to tell you that I was able to access them but after installing some updates I couldn't open them :(
[09:48] <justin__> hey all...i've got a bcm4318 running using ndiswrapper....networkmanager doesn't seem to like it as it won't connect to my wireless network..it shows up, but won't connect.  however, if i use sudo dhclient, it connects no problem....i read bout wicd but wasn't sure that was the route i should go..any help is appreciated....thanks!!
[09:48] <leandrowfx> ei! alguem do brasil???
[09:48] <stefg_> !br
[09:48] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:48] <DigDugz> Bhaal: hello tool.
[09:49] <Jowi> silent[ca] , I havent even seen iTunes store or files so I can't be of much help there.
[09:49] <ad4m> Hi
[09:49] <hendrixski> Jowi, but now everything I try to install something else it tries to get mysql server in there first... and craps out
[09:49] <Jowi> !itunes
[09:49] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[09:49] <heguru> !ohmy | DigDugz
[09:49] <ubotu> DigDugz: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:49] <silent[ca] > itt washed up programmers try to legitimate their existences by checking their impact on the open source community
[09:49] <bewst> forest252525: now re-enable networking
[09:49] <brobostigon> hi
[09:49] <hendrixski> Jowi, so apt is basically totally hozed until I get mysql-server installed :-(     what should I do?
[09:49] <heguru> Muhammad: ubotu is a bot
[09:49] <bewst> forest252525: ?
[09:49] <DigDugz> heguru: .mil are interrested, would you care to explain :P
[09:49] <Mar1> Someone willing and/or able to help me with my compiz desktop switch problem ?
[09:49] <corentin`> justin__: personaly, I don't use network-manager
[09:50] <forest252525> done
[09:50] <silent[ca] > justin__, network-manager is bad
[09:50] <Jowi> hendrixski, remove mysql-server or mysql-client first of all. install apt-utils and try again.
[09:50] <Muhammad> :) you know I was thinking in that :)
[09:50] <bewst> forest252525: now left-click the NM icon
[09:50] <leandrowfx> thanks
[09:50] <bewst> forest252525:  do you see your network?
[09:50] <DigDugz> Muhammad:; stfu :P
[09:50] <comicinke1> stef_g: I found a very cool tool! the big advantage in may yase is that I dont had partitions on my harddrive. so maybe mke2fs can help me
[09:50] <justin__> corentin': what do you use?
[09:50] <hendrixski> Jowi, the remove's try to finish the install before removing it :-(
[09:50] <Muhammad> :D it's ok
[09:50] <comicinke1> stef_g: do you know that command?
[09:50] <heguru> Muhammad: what ubuntu are you using? feisty or gutsy?
[09:51] <justin__> silent[ca] : what do you suggest?
[09:51] <chippy> isnt there a gnome network manager (similar name!) thats meant to be better?
[09:51] <bewst> forest252525: ?
[09:51] <forest252525> yes
[09:51] <bewst> forest252525: select it
[09:51] <silent[ca] > justin__, depends what you're trying to do
[09:51] <Muhammad> 7.10 beta
[09:51] <bewst> forest252525: are you connecting?
[09:51] <Muhammad> I think Gutsy
[09:51] <Jowi> hendrixski, try "sudo apt-get -f remove mysql-server-5.0 mysql-client-5.0"
[09:51] <forest252525> it ask me for the key
[09:51] <heguru> Muhammad: then try asking in #ubuntu+1, this is only for feisty
[09:51] <justin__> silent[ca] : not have to use "sudo dhclient" every time i login to get on the web...hehe
[09:51] <bewst> forest252525: I assume you know your own network key(?)
[09:51] <corentin`> justin__: dhclient or wifi-radar
[09:51] <SA> hey guys
[09:51] <stefg_> comicinke1: mke2fs will format your drive... that means: erase everything
[09:52] <nanonyme> oh, no
[09:52] <nanonyme> ops
[09:52] <cyberjames> what happen
[09:52] <nanonyme> !ops
[09:52] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[09:52] <Muhammad> ok I will try
[09:52] <cyberjames> netsplit?
[09:52] <nanonyme> ban the ctcp sender!
[09:52] <Muhammad> thx
[09:52] <heartsblood> either netsplit, or somebody is ctcp flooding
[09:52] <Kill_X> f******** script kiddies
[09:52] <cyberjames> oh
[09:52] <nanonyme> erm
[09:52] <chippy> netsplit
[09:53] <Affilated> !ohmy | Kill_X
[09:53] <ubotu> Kill_X: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:53] <nanonyme> what on earth
[09:53] <hendrixski> Jowi, k
[09:53] <LiMaO> c-68-49-242-241.hsd1.dc.comcast.net -- this idiot is flooding people
[09:53] <diafic> haha
[09:53] <silent[ca] > !ops
[09:53] <ndube> wtf?
[09:53] <diafic> awsome
[09:53] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[09:53] <stdin> !staff
[09:53] <silent[ca] > that was.... interesting
[09:53] <diafic> someone set ups up the bomb
[09:53] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[09:53] <diafic> cyberjames, no
[09:53] <hendrixski> ???
[09:53] <hendrixski> is this automated, or is this someone being a prick?
[09:53] <cyberjames> netsplit
[09:53] <bewst> forest252525: yst?
[09:53] <Muhammad> but you know  I was thinking  this a general problem
[09:53] <diafic> cyberjames, no its not a split
[09:53] <nanonyme> no, it can't have been a netsplit
[09:53] <cyberjames> what is that
[09:53] <diafic> That was a griefer attack
[09:53] <Dave2> it wasn't a netsplit, it was an attack.
[09:53] <Kill_X> lol -.-
[09:53] <heguru> !netsplit
[09:53] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:53] <cyberjames> ?
[09:53] <heartsblood> I didn't see the network split error, I think it was somebody dbeing a dick
[09:53] <nanonyme> you don't "excess flood" when you drop due to netsplit
[09:53] <Kill_X> this had nothing to do with a netsplit
[09:53] <LinuxJuggalo> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[09:53] <forest252525> i type in my key
[09:54] <LinuxJuggalo> damn kiddies
[09:54] <Kill_X> that was a CTCP attack
[09:54] <ndube> definitly NOT a netsplit
[09:54] <comicinke1> stef_g: yeah, but, the -n option shows what it WOULD do, and it shows possible other superblock copies
[09:54] <LiMaO> hendrixski: c-68-49-242-241.hsd1.dc.comcast.net that guy is flooding / spamming people
[09:54] <bewst> forest252525: and what happened?
[09:54] <silent[ca] > I've seen a good many netsplits in my time
[09:54] <bewst> forest252525: are you connected?
[09:54] <heartsblood> dc.comcast?
[09:54] <Kill_X> dito
[09:54] <nanonyme> found it
[09:54] <forest252525> i can see that i have 4 bar
[09:54] <chippy> yeah, not netsplit, other channels unaffected
[09:54] <forest252525> but no access to internet
[09:54] <heartsblood> meh
[09:54] <forest252525> but nothing in the router has changed
[09:54] <hendrixski> LiMaO, spam?  so we'll get popups soon like in Windows?
[09:55] <nanonyme> http://pastebin.ca/734516
[09:55] <LiMaO> hendrixski: actually you'll get dcc send requests saying 'spamspamspam'
[09:55] <forest252525> if it ask me again for my key
[09:55] <nanonyme> those are the guys
[09:55] <smultron> why do people do that?
[09:55] <heartsblood> router exploit?
[09:55] <nanonyme> yes
[09:55] <forest252525> it means thant my key is not correct
[09:55] <Hoosteen> correntin': hey justin_ here...ok..yeah..i use "sudo dhclient" whenever i login to get on the web..is there any way around that?
[09:55] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[09:55] <diafic> smultron, shits and giggles.
[09:55] <heartsblood> smultron: why not?
[09:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:55] <bewst> forest252525: I think if you have bars, then you got a DHCP address and your problem is on the other side of the router.
[09:55] <nanonyme> it is indeed a router exploit
[09:55] <smultron> it's annoying
[09:55] <corentin`> diafic: do you have any idea how they do that ?
[09:55] <bewst> forest252525: you can verify by right-clicking the NM icon and choosing "connection information."
[09:55] <stefg_> !msg ubotu dccexploit
[09:55] <silent[ca] > the guy I was helping got dc'd
[09:55] <silent[ca] > lol
[09:56] <dfg> when I start my vmware it says "the network bridge on device /dev/vmner0" is temporary down because the bridged Etherner interface is down." why is that ? I can work on my main machine well
[09:56] <Andeh> Wut did I miss?
[09:56] <diafic> corentin`, botnet.
[09:56] <Andeh> lol
[09:56] <DigDugz> lol
[09:56] <silent[ca] > Andeh, it was bad
[09:56] <heartsblood> smultron: I may have a macab way of looking at it, but i'd rather know there was a problem do what I can to avoid/fix it than be oblivious.
[09:56] <n6a6iya> can i install messenger live on my unbuntu?
[09:56] <diafic> you get a botnet of virus'd machines
[09:56] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[09:56] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:56] <diafic> n6a6iya, see gaim/pidgin
[09:56] <Andeh> silent[ca] : No it was hilarious. What did I miss?
[09:56] <PriceChild> n6a6iya, use gaim, installed by default.
[09:56] <stefg_> !exploit
[09:56] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[09:56] <DigDugz> Do you wish to be helped ?
[09:56] <diafic> they're our equivilent of many messengers rolled into one
[09:56] <diafic> (I'm actually a debian user)
[09:56] <smultron> heartsblood: i guess that's one way of looking at it
[09:56] <bewst> Now that I've performed a mitzvah by helping someone with his network, can someone please lend a hand with my packages that are being held back?
[09:56] <n6a6iya> PriceChild you mean i just download it from the web?
[09:56] <diafic> I just come here to get my lols and help people when I get bored
[09:57] <n6a6iya> nothing is needed?
[09:57] <nanonyme> agh, if only i had perm ops. would be trivial to add automatic kickbans for that kind of attacks
[09:57] <diafic> n6a6iya, its preinstalled
[09:57] <silent[ca] > Andeh, some script kiddie lowlife employed by microsoft causing havoc on linux support networks... you know how it is
[09:57] <PriceChild> n6a6iya, no, it is installed by default.
[09:57] <Creationist> Anyone know of any alternatives to GNUCash that has a better interface (more reminiscent of Quicken)?
[09:57] <diafic> look under internet
[09:57] <n6a6iya> alright
[09:57] <n6a6iya> what about IRC ?
[09:57] <corentin`> diafic: arf ... just a simple DoS attack ?
[09:57] <nanonyme> corentin`, no
[09:57] <Vorondil> Hi all, I'm using 7.04 (amd64), and I can't seem to get arecord to record input to my mic.  http://pastebin.com/me3104bc  Here's the output of amixer, arecord -L, and a test using arecord/aplay.  When I playback the file, I get silence.  I can hear mic input through my speakers.  Could someone take a look and tell me where I might be going wrong?  Thanks.
[09:57] <DigDugz> bewst: So youre still spamming the people you like the most ?
[09:57] <PriceChild> nanonyme, If you feel we could improve the management of this channel then please suggest it in #ubuntu-ops
[09:57] <stefg_> bewst: are on on gutsy?
[09:57] <diafic> corentin`, no, its a botnet of machines designed to cause grief on IRC networks
[09:57] <bewst> stefg_: is this #ubuntu+1?  ;-)   No, I'm on feisty
[09:57] <DigDugz> bewst: Like Alan Ralsky ?
[09:58] <PriceChild> ATTENTION - Yes we had an attack. Lets please ignore it, move on and stay on topic - helping people. #ubuntu-offtopic is for other discussion.
[09:58] <n6a6iya> PriceChild, how can i install the IRC?
[09:58] <flokuehn> is anybody arround here who knows howto install drivers in vmplayer?
[09:58] <diafic> n6a6iya, aptitude install xchat
[09:58] <PriceChild> n6a6iya, pardon?
[09:58] <diafic> its a good client
[09:58] <bewst> DigDugz: spamming?  If you're trolling, I'm not biting
[09:58] <DigDugz> Like: simoriah "Achmoud"
[09:58] <n6a6iya> fine!
[09:58] <n6a6iya> i  would like to install adobe photoshop
[09:58] <diafic> I think n6a6iya doesn't speak english as a native language
[09:58] <hendrixski> n6a6iya, go to applications --> add/remove programs and select IRC from the list
[09:58] <diafic> you can't n6a6iya
[09:58] <Gek_> !raid
[09:58] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:58] <Hoosteen> correntin': hey justin_ here...ok..yeah..i use "sudo dhclient" whenever i login to get on the web..is there any way around that?
[09:58] <diafic> however, we have the GIMP
[09:58] <silent[ca] > I cant get xwine and wine to work together. when I apt-get one the other is removed and vise versa
[09:58] <n6a6iya> you are right
[09:58] <DigDugz> bewst: you are, i wish you none the breast
[09:59] <n6a6iya> why cant i ?
[09:59] <diafic> DigDugz, PFPFPFPFP AHAHHAHAHA
[09:59] <diafic> n6a6iya, because its windows-only
[09:59] <FlyingPig> how i get same settings on gutsy gibbon from my gnome settings i have now? what file i need to  copy and paste??? i dont want to redo it all
[09:59] <Andeh> Netsplit or hax0r?
[09:59] <dfg> when I start my vmware it says "the network bridge on device /dev/vmner0" is temporary down because the bridged Etherner interface is down." why is that ? I can work on my main machine well
[09:59] <n6a6iya> somebody told me there's something i can install
[09:59] <hendrixski> n6a6iya, why photoshop?  try the GIMP, it's fun, and it's actually cross platform
[09:59] <PriceChild> !offtopic > diafic (see ubotu's pm)
[09:59] <diafic> Andeh, neither, its a scriptkiddy
[09:59] <n6a6iya> to install windows softwares!
[09:59] <PriceChild> !offtopic > andeh (see ubotu's pm)
[09:59] <bewst> so much for good kharma
[09:59] <hendrixski> n6a6iya, there's something called wine, which can install some windows software
[09:59] <diafic> n6a6iya, thats WINE
[09:59] <bewst> \me is out of here
[09:59] <Andeh> PriceChild: I saw it. And?
[10:00] <diafic> Wine allows you to run some windows apps a bit slower on a linux machine
[10:00] <n6a6iya> does it install the photoshop?
[10:00] <DigDugz> n=Greyscal@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com.. Yes, christian, who is this tool... :=)
[10:00] <diafic> I dunno if photoshop works.
[10:00] <diafic> try googling it
[10:00] <susan> >	i want to change my motherboard but i know i have to remove my IDE drivers first.. trouble is, my computer went dead before i could remove the drivers so i cannot remove them. however, if anyone can tell me how i can go into my harddrve and remove the drivers manually, that would be fab.
[10:00] <FlyingPig> how do i get my GUI settings on feisty fawn onto gutsy gibbon without redoing all settings?
[10:00] <heguru> !ot > DigDugz (see ubotu's pm)
[10:00] <n6a6iya> okay i will give it a try thanks
[10:00] <kjp> when using the md interface for "raid" do you have to start with clean, data-free disks ? or can you compile a pool of pre-formatted drives ?
[10:00] <silent[ca] > diafic, apparently some verisons of photoshop do, but cedega has more compatibilty
[10:01] <diafic> Yeah, but I can't afford cedega
[10:01] <DigDugz> heguru: another m$ gold partner are you ?
[10:01] <Balz> guys, i installed ubuntu on a dual-boot with winxp, but when i restart my comp i dont get the grub loader and it goes straight to windows
[10:01] <Creationist> Anyone know of any alternatives to GNUCash that has a better interface (more reminiscent of Quicken)?
[10:01] <flokuehn> n6a6iya: do you speak german?
[10:01] <FlyingPig> SOMEONE HELP ME
[10:01] <diafic> Balz, installed windows last?
[10:01] <PriceChild> !de | flokuehn
[10:01] <ubotu> flokuehn: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:01] <diafic> FlyingPig, sup?
[10:01] <PriceChild> !gutsy | FlyingPig
[10:01] <ubotu> FlyingPig: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:01] <Balz> diafic: nope, ubuntu
[10:01] <diafic> Hmm
[10:01] <stefg_> susan: i wouldn't panic in advance. have a try, if it doesn't work  you've got to fix it from Live CD
[10:01] <diafic> Wierd.
[10:01] <flokuehn> n6a6iya: PriceChild thank you i know that. i just want to ask him because i found an nice tut in german
[10:01] <diafic> Try installing GRUB again
[10:01] <meek> whats going on here? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-241427.html
[10:01] <diafic> or the whole thing if there is nothing on it
[10:01] <nomaS> !ssh
[10:01] <PriceChild> flokuehn, my apologies.
[10:01] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:01] <FlyingPig> diafic hello sir i use ubuntu feisty fawn today and i will install gutsy gibbon soon and how do i get my current GUI settings to gutsy gibbon from feisty fawn???
[10:02] <Balz> diafic, tried both
[10:02] <flokuehn> PriceChild: doesnt matter :)
[10:02] <flokuehn> meek:
[10:02] <flokuehn> meek: did it work
[10:02] <flokuehn> meek: ????
[10:02] <heguru> FlyingPig: for gutsy support join #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <meek> yeah thanks after some messing around with it its / half working
[10:02] <diafic> FlyingPig, what'd I'd do is tarball my entire /home directory, install the new one and copy it back
[10:02] <soundray> Looking at the output of dpkg --get-selections -- is there a way to distinguish between packages that others depend on and those that don't have reverse-dependencies?
[10:02] <meek> got right res...
[10:02] <meek> but no 3D
[10:02] <meek> !
[10:02] <meek> ?
[10:02] <meek> :-D
[10:02] <meek> lol
[10:02] <flokuehn> meek: oh ok
[10:02] <meek> so wonder now what.
[10:02] <diafic> !enter
[10:02] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:02] <Jowi> susan, no need to remove drivers, simply open the computer and unplug the disk drives. if you don't know how, contact your PC manufacturer (on DELL machines it's a simple clip, no screws or anything and the support people are usually willing to guide you)
[10:02] <FlyingPig> diafic is it that simple?
[10:02] <KuBuS> buenas
[10:02] <flokuehn> meek: i think there will ge an solution for this problem at all
[10:02] <diafic> FlyingPig, hopefully :P
[10:03] <FlyingPig> diafic is all gnome settings there?
[10:03] <FlyingPig> lol
[10:03] <diafic> Mostly!
[10:03] <flokuehn> meek: maybe you cann google for
[10:03] <meek> flokuehn: do you know what this is all about (or how to fix it withiout reinstalling ubuntu?) http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-241427.html
[10:03] <diafic> Hopefully it won't break
[10:03] <flokuehn> meek: ill have a look
[10:03] <diafic> but it works a dream from one version to the same
[10:03] <meek> thanks
[10:03] <diafic> hopefully they don't change where stuff goes too much
[10:03] <Nido> hi
[10:03] <diafic> I read that as "<hido> Ni!"
[10:03] <diafic> Too much Monty python
[10:04] <Nido> what do I have to do to upgrade from Tribe 5 to Release Candidate?
[10:04] <PriceChild> !gutsy | Nido
[10:04] <ubotu> Nido: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:04] <diafic> What is tribe?
[10:04] <diafic> !tribe
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <diafic> Hmm
[10:04] <Jowi> diafic, (offtopic-warning) wow, haven't seen the Grail for years and years. thanks for the flash-back.
[10:04] <diafic> :)
[10:04] <r0bby> diafic: it's one of the beta releases.
[10:05] <diafic> Oh?
[10:05] <diafic> OK.
[10:05] <r0bby> or (maybe alpha(?)?
[10:05] <diafic> Nido, I'd assume you don't.
[10:05] <PriceChild> AHEM This channel is for Dapper/Edgy/Feisty support ONLY.
[10:05] <diafic> Either run a supported system or expect wipe-down systems
[10:05] <fd> ciao a tutti
[10:05] <PriceChild> !it | fd
[10:05] <ubotu> fd: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:05] <Usiu> hi
[10:05] <meek> can I unistall gaim and get pidgeon instaead?
[10:05] <Usiu> Is there an LiveCD of ubuntu ?
[10:05] <estrelo> Hello there, new user here. Anyone could give me a hand with a couple of newbie driver issues? Thank you
[10:05] <diafic> meek, depends on the version
[10:05] <Jowi> hendrixski, did the -f remove work?
[10:05] <diafic> Usiu, the installer IS a liveCD
[10:05] <meek> hmm
[10:05] <PriceChild> !highno | meek
[10:05] <ubotu> meek: A higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.
[10:06] <meek> diafic
[10:06] <diafic> it just has a button to install to disk on the desktop :P
[10:06] <meek> version?
[10:06] <flokuehn> meek: ok
[10:06] <diafic> what version of ubuntu
[10:06] <hendrixski> jowi no... even then it tries to finish the mysql-server install
[10:06] <chippy> meek, i did that. But i had to compile pidgin from source
[10:06] <meek> oh
[10:06] <meek> feisty 7.04
[10:06] <diafic> debian its a bit easier. You just track sid and you get everything hot.
[10:06] <flokuehn> meek: it seems that if you use the envy thing you could get all the 3d options working
[10:06] <diafic> meek, wait until it get pushed down the pipe
[10:06] <meek> cool
[10:06] <diafic> or see if 7.10 has it
[10:06] <meek> ;-)
[10:06] <meek> thanks for the tip flokuehn
[10:07] <soundray> I'm looking for a way to list packages on my system that are "leaves in the dependency tree", ie. don't have others depending on them.
[10:07] <Gek_> anyone have a good raid1 guide for a new install?
[10:07] <genii> meek: the getdeb website has a 7.04 deb of pidgen. I'm running it now
[10:07] <heartsblood> diafic: that's exactly why I dont use debian.  to get all the latest and greatest you have to use sid which breaks all the time.
[10:07] <flokuehn> meek: but
[10:07] <Gek_> i'm wanting to mirror two 750GB hard drives
[10:07] <corentin`> !fr
[10:07] <diafic> heartsblood, I have patience and use Lenny
[10:07] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:07] <flokuehn> meek: as he told, he had to reinstall ubuntu for that
[10:07] <heartsblood> diafic: you sir are a better man than I.
[10:07] <hendrixski> Jowi, It's happened once before and I had to re-install.  where every time I try to install or remove something, it tries to install a package that just doesn't want to DL
[10:07] <flokuehn> meek: so maybe you will try at the next installation
[10:07] <diafic> heartsblood, version me.
[10:07] <Gek_> these hard drives will also be my boot drives
[10:07] <diafic> Its windows D:
[10:07] <diafic> (stupid office 07)
[10:08] <diafic> It gets no worse than this
[10:08] <corentin`> !fi
[10:08] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[10:08] <Usiu> diafic, does it contain pidgin by default ?
[10:08] <diafic> which?
[10:08] <heguru> Gek_: you can configure these drives as RAID1 and still boot with them
[10:08] <flokuehn> meek: i havent ever tried to do that thing with the envy script because i use windows for gaming and stuff
[10:08] <Usiu> diafic, I want to burn cd with live GNU/Linux for my girl
[10:08] <heguru> !raid | Gek_
[10:08] <ubotu> Gek_: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:08] <heartsblood> ;) blocked
[10:08] <diafic> Usiu, dunno, but it DOES contain gaim
[10:08] <heartsblood> <3 script kiddies.
[10:08] <diafic> which is the pre-rename version
[10:08] <meek> I seem to be having this problem though: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-241427.html
[10:09] <MrMark79> I upgraded gutsy and enabled compiz with cube effects. Now I notice that CTRL-ALT-left/right shifts the desktop twice instead of one, so from 1=>3 instead of 2. I'm not sure wheter this is a gutsy problem or just a setting I missed.. someone able to help me out ?
[10:09] <Usiu> diafic, :(
[10:09] <diafic> also, the liveCD is slow.
[10:09] <Jowi> hendrixski, have you tried to remove it with synaptic?
[10:09] <diafic> It depends on the disk drives bandwidth.
[10:09] <Gek_> heguru, that one doesnt' work
[10:09] <heguru> !gutsy | MrMark79
[10:09] <ubotu> MrMark79: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:09] <hendrixski> Jowi, no actually... but isn't that just the same thing?
[10:09] <meek> flokeuhn: ;-)
[10:09] <diafic> Which is less than a hard disk. Which is slow to begin with
[10:09] <SLaPoet> i'm trying to install dapper server lamp and it's stuck at 86%, no running processes.
[10:09] <heguru> Gek_: what doesn't work?
[10:09] <diafic> SLaPoet, I had that
[10:09] <diafic> is it an Intel P4?
[10:10] <Jowi> hendrixski, it can work. if not try "dpkg --configure -a"
[10:10] <SLaPoet> vmware server guest installation
[10:10] <diafic> Hmm
[10:10] <flokuehn> meek: will you try envy?
[10:10] <Gek_> "This is *NOT* for people with new, blank hdds"
[10:10] <diafic> Dunno why it happened to me. I just retrie
[10:10] <meek> would be great if game designers custom built games to take advantage of the linux kernel processing advantages making games run faster on linux.. and hey presto ..  a whole market moving towards linux.
[10:10] <meek> ;-)
[10:10] <SLaPoet> diafic: did you report a bug?
[10:10] <diafic> I got a 33% chance of success
[10:10] <Gek_> and the second link... i don't wanna do LVM
[10:10] <diafic> No. Because thats like pissing into the wind these days
[10:10] <Anarch> SLaPoet: I had that kind of stuckage at 6% with dapper server; it turned out to be a bad CD.
[10:10] <corentin`> !abc
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <Gek_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/RAID1?highlight=%28raid%29
[10:11] <Gek_> the problem with that is there is no option to make Raid 1 in the partitioner
[10:11] <kiuk> does anyone have a clue why I might not be getting sound on my ubuntu? I have a intel HDA
[10:11] <Gek_> which of course is the first step
[10:11] <soundray> !intelhda | kiuk
[10:11] <ubotu> kiuk: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[10:11] <chippy> have you ever kiuk ?
[10:11] <Gek_> heguru, see? :(
[10:11] <Jowi> hendrixski, I will be away for awhile. good luck.
[10:11] <hendrixski> Jowi, k, that reconfigures everything, right?
[10:11] <heguru> Gek_: so you have a hard disk WITH data and you want to mirror it?
[10:11] <kiuk> thanks ubotu I'll check it out
[10:11] <Gek_> no
[10:11] <estrelo> HellCould anyone help get an Intel AGn wifi card working?
[10:11] <hendrixski> Jowi, k thanks :-) I appreciate it
[10:11] <Gek_> i have 2 blank hard drives
[10:12] <Gek_> i want to install a full system using all disk space as a mirror of the drives
[10:12] <Balz> how can i install the grub loader to a certain partition ??
[10:12] <diafic> estrelo, probably not
[10:12] <downhillgames> can somebody please point me to _the_ compiz fusion repo to use?
[10:13] <diafic> Balz, it installs to the bootloader.
[10:13] <downhillgames> me love you long time
[10:13] <diafic> You can make a /boot partition that contains all the extrenuous bits of it
[10:13] <soundray> Gek_: you need the alternate CD. Read ubotu's private messages:
[10:13] <soundray> !alternate > Gek_
[10:13] <diafic> swap bootloader for "master boot record"
[10:13] <soundray> !raid > Gek_
[10:13] <corentin`> Balz: you can't
[10:13] <corentin`> Balz: grub must be in the MBR
[10:13] <Vorondil> Hi all, I'm using 7.04 (amd64), and I can't seem to get arecord to record input to my mic.  http://pastebin.com/me3104bc  Here's the output of amixer, arecord -L, and a test using arecord/aplay.  When I playback the file, I get silence.  I can hear mic input through my speakers.  alsamixer reports my sound hardware as: Card: HDA Nvidia, Chip: Analog Devices AD1986A.  Could someone take a look and tell me where I might be going wrong?  Thanks.
[10:13] <diafic> I totally just said that corentin` :P
[10:14] <soundray> corentin`: that's not entirely correct (Balz)
[10:14] <diafic> Totally! *wristflick*
[10:14] <Gek_> is there an alternate gutsy?
[10:14] <kiuk> I did kiuk@eniac2:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r' and I get a couldn't find package
[10:14] <Balz> corentin': i got the grub loader installed at hd0,6 which is the linux ext3 partition
[10:14] <soundray> Gek_: yes
[10:14] <corentin`> Oops sorry diafic :)
[10:14] <diafic> :P
[10:14] <downhillgames> "THE" compiz fusion repo to use, anyone?
[10:14] <heguru> Gek_: I believe you can use the alternate cd to configure RAID1 during installation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FileServerWithRAID
[10:14] <Balz> corentin': but when i load my computer grub wont load and it goes straight to windows
[10:14] <downhillgames> the forums are a needle in a haystack and the help. site didn't even mention it
[10:14] <estrelo> diafic, Hum, Intel does have a driver in their site, but I can't load it...
[10:15] <corentin`> could you explain soundray ?
[10:15] <h|barbobot> Balz: you need to load a live-cd, run grub-install then reboot
[10:15] <SLaPoet> diafic: i killed the "apt-get update" process, and it installation completed.
[10:15] <soundray> Balz: in that case you should install grub to the MBR of the disk that the BIOS considers your first.
[10:15] <diafic> estrelo, its 90% certain unsupported. DO some googlin'
[10:15] <diafic> SLaPoet, nice. Mine always died during kernel install on my P4.
[10:15] <h|barbobot> then you can add windows to your grub menu
[10:15] <diafic> like it locked up
[10:15] <Usiu> diafic, how to check if pidgin is in 7.04 or 7.10 ?
[10:15] <soundray> corentin`: you can have grub in a partition instead of the MBR. Then you can chainload it using another boot loader, or a separate grub instance.
[10:15] <corentin`> Balz: you have to install it at /dev/hda or /dev/sda
[10:15] <diafic> Usiu, dunno.
[10:15] <kiuk> anyone have a clue how to run this line on the terminal? sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:15] <diafic> packages.ubuntu.org
[10:16] <diafic> maybe?
[10:16] <corentin`> soundray: oh yeah I see :)
[10:16] <diafic> hmm
[10:16] <PriceChild> kiuk, just paste it in
[10:16] <PriceChild> kiuk, then press enter
[10:16] <diafic> does ubuntu have a packages site like packages.debian.org?
[10:16] <h|barbobot> kiuk: just as you wrote it
[10:16] <kiuk> the uname -r means what?
[10:16] <PriceChild> kiuk, make sure you use ` and not '
[10:16] <nomaS> !ssh
[10:16] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:16] <Usiu> diafic, its debian way doesnt work:D
[10:16] <h|barbobot> kiuk: it's the kernel version
[10:16] <PriceChild> kiuk, that's a command in a command
[10:16] <SLaPoet> diafic: for some reason the dapper installer won't access the security updates repo on this network, i think it has something to do with a firewall on http
[10:16] <h|barbobot> 2.6.22.6-linode34
[10:16] <PriceChild> kiuk, basically appends the kernel version number
[10:16] <diafic> The debian way has one flaw: They don't always use the right tool for the job
[10:16] <soundray> kiuk: do a sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:16] <soundray> kiuk: cleaner
[10:16] <SLaPoet> diafic:  most of the "security" websites are blocked from work,
[10:17] <Balz> guys, no offense but what ur saying is not helpful
[10:17] <diafic> SLaPoet, thats silly :P
[10:17] <PriceChild> Balz, pardon?
[10:17] <soundray> Balz: how many disks in your system?
[10:17] <kiuk> thanks guys
[10:17] <soundray> PriceChild: I'll help
[10:17] <downhillgames> O_o
[10:17] <kiuk> soundray
[10:17] <PriceChild> *highfives kiuk*
[10:17] <Balz> soundray: 2 hard drives
[10:17] <downhillgames> 'the' compiz fusion repo... someone's gottak now
[10:17] <downhillgames> the bot?
[10:17] <downhillgames> someone...
[10:17] <Balz> soundray: both sata
[10:17] <seb__> hi i linux on my usb flash drive but my bios dosn't support usb booting is their some sort of cd that i can boot wich then redirects to usb? sorry if this is off topic
[10:17] <SLaPoet> diafic: its because people use security sites to subvert network security here, so they blocked most of them,
[10:17] <soundray> Balz: and you installed ubuntu on the second?
[10:18] <diafic> still silly.
[10:18] <estrelo> diafic, Thanks. Any pointers for a place to read up on mounting drivers? I need to hammer in the one for my graphics card.
[10:18] <flokuehn> Balz: have you created an boot partition for the grub loader
[10:18] <diafic> OMG EMPLOYEES MIGHT GO LOOK AT TITTIES ON COMPANY TIME
[10:18] <Balz> soundray: the linux ext3 is installed on partition 7 of the first hard disk
[10:18] <SLaPoet> seb__: you might want to google "puppy linux documentation"
[10:18] <PriceChild> !offtopic | diafic
[10:18] <ubotu> diafic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:18] <soundray> flokuehn: please don't confuse balz. He or she doesn't need that
[10:18] <seb__> thanks SLaPoet
[10:18] <Balz> soundray: and when i do find /boot/grub/stage1 it finds hd(0,6)
[10:18] <seb__> il have a look
[10:18] <flokuehn> soundray: sorry. just read the topic and thougt about solution
[10:19] <soundray> Balz: that's good then
[10:19] <kiuk> how do I get through the third bullet point in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[10:19] <soundray> flokuehn: we'll try that when the standard approach fails (grub -> MBR)
[10:19] <Guildmage> hi, when i try to install Ubuntu from a Live CD, it gives me an error just after i try to install it, it say something about my X server not beeing well set up....
[10:19] <flokuehn> soundray: ok
[10:19] <Balz> soundray: when i do fdisk -l tho, the boot (*) is at the 2nd partition of the 2nd harddrive
[10:19] <alcala> !list
[10:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:20] <soundray> Balz: the boot flag will be ignored, once you replaced the Windows MBR with the grub one.
[10:20] <Balz> soundray: alright, and how do i do that? :)
[10:20] <comicinke1> hi! a desaster happend: the superblock of my hdd is destroyed. can I restore data from the mke2fs -n some files?
[10:20] <soundray> Balz: first I need to know where you are now. Chatting on the same machine?
[10:20] <kiuk> is there an easy way to download the latest version of alsa without having to download alsa-driver, alsa-lib, and alsa-utils separtately
[10:20] <downhillgames> ompaul; how do i use <whatever the bot's name is>?
[10:21] <PriceChild> downhillgames, ubotu?
[10:21] <Balz> soundray: yes, on windows
[10:21] <downhillgames> PriceChild; if that's the bot, yes
[10:21] <stefg_> !info photorec
[10:21] <ubotu> Package photorec does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:21] <downhillgames> i need to know the compiz fusion repo.
[10:21] <PriceChild> downhillgames, have you searched on the internet for it?
[10:21] <soundray> Balz: do you have a live CD from which you could boot instead?
[10:21] <PriceChild> downhillgames, isn't it in feisty even?1
[10:21] <Balz> soundray: yup
[10:21] <swhalen> Can someone help me?
[10:21] <soundray> Balz: shall I see you in a few minutes then?
[10:21] <downhillgames> PriceChild; i've used Linux for ~4-5 years now. take a guess. :)
[10:21] <downhillgames> tis a simple question.
[10:21] <h|barbobot> hey guys, im actually having a problem getting x backup. After an upgrade, ubuntu (gutsy) refuses to use /etc/X11/xorg.conf and keeps trying to use the VESA driver
[10:21] <comicinke1> can anyone help me with my deleted ext2 filesystem?
[10:22] <downhillgames> with only 1 possible answer.
[10:22] <stefg_> comicinke1: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[10:22] <kiuk> anyone know what I have to download from ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/?
[10:22] <h|barbobot> is there a way to force it to use my config?
[10:22] <Balz> soundray: i got a diff network problem on ubuntu so i cant talk to u in there
[10:22] <PriceChild> downhillgames, ok well compiz fusion is in the ubuntu repos afaik
[10:22] <downhillgames> O_o
[10:22] <recon> Is there any way to reset X to all the defaults short of a clean install? (no, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't work.)
[10:22] <comicinke1> oh ok, I see
[10:22] <soundray> Balz: okay, I'll give you the summary procedure then
[10:22] <Balz> soundray: tell me here on what direction to take and if it wont work i'll come back and tell u the results
[10:22] <swhalen> !gtk
[10:22] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[10:23] <PriceChild> downhillgames, (and I don't care how long you've been using linux. It means nothing.)
[10:23] <downhillgames> that's bad logic.
[10:23] <downhillgames> it means a lot.
[10:23] <soundray> Balz: once booted, mount the root partition on mount. Make sure that it contains /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:23] <downhillgames> no, it's not in the repos.
[10:23] <downhillgames> unless it's in some area that isn't enabled currently. which section is it in?
[10:23] <soundray> Balz: when you've got that, run 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda'
[10:23] <kiuk> anyone know why I don't have an external amplifier section in my alsamixer?
[10:24] <astro76> downhillgames, it should be in gutsy only
[10:24] <seb__> SLaPoet were do i go on the documentation site because the part on usb booting is blank
[10:24] <Stormx2> Folks, my connection keeps dropping, and I have no idea why. Could anyone recommend how to diagnose the problem? I'm using wifi.
[10:24] <soundray> Balz: sec, phone
[10:24] <downhillgames> OKAY! this channel is nearly worthless.
[10:24] <downhillgames> just like your documentation
[10:24] <recon> downhillgames: it ain't the channel, bub.
[10:24] <downhillgames> sure as shit is
[10:24] <recon> cue !language
[10:24] <downhillgames> wow... now you're going to tell me what an IRC channel is or is not...
[10:25] <astro76> idiot
[10:25] <genii> Seems a lot of them around these days unfortunately
[10:25] <seb__> SLaPoet: were do i go on the documentation site because the part on usb booting is blank
[10:25] <flokuehn> astro76: stay cool
[10:25] <preaction> third link on google for "compiz-fusion fiesty"
[10:26] <soundray> Balz: was I making sense so far?
[10:26] <flokuehn> astro76: ;)
[10:26] <SleepyHare> Hello, Is there a way to defeat the USB2 - ehci-hcd bug?
[10:26] <Balz> soundray: just to see i got all the "steps" correct...
[10:26] <recon> i just "sudo aptitude purge xserver-xorg; sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg". i'm getting desperate.
[10:26] <Balz> soundray: mkdir /mnt/root, mount /dev/xxx /mnt/root, chroot /mnt/root /bin/bash
[10:26] <Balz> soundray: is that correct so far ?
[10:27] <soundray> Balz: no, no need to do all that chrooting.
[10:27] <Balz> soundray: the partition i mount is the linux native ext3 partition ??
[10:27] <soundray> Balz: the --root-directory option takes care of that -- it makes sure that your MBR references the stages etc.
[10:27] <boyam_> if downhillgames has been using linux for 4-5 years then why can't he/she figure out how to get compiz fusion ....geeeezz...i agree astro76...
[10:27] <seb__> do any one know if their is such a thing as a cd that i boot which then boots a usb drive because my bios dosnt support usb booting
[10:27] <Panagant> hey
[10:28] <soundray> Balz: yes, the root one if you have more than one. /dev/sda7 I assume it will be called in your system.
[10:28] <crackintosh> Can someone explain how I messed up the permissions on this directory? Im not able to enter the directory. drwxrwx---  7 www-data subversion 4096 2007-10-12 14:44 menumine_azavar/
[10:28] <Panagant> \exit
[10:28] <Engineer> hi all
[10:28] <Balz> soundray: when i do the grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/dev/sda part
[10:29] <recon> Great. X is giving me a "Xserver not found" because it's trying to use XGL. I don't want it to. Any advic
[10:29] <Balz> soundray: i ddint get the /mnt/sda part
[10:29] <recon> e?
[10:29] <soundray> Balz: there's a space
[10:29] <heguru> crackintosh: sudo chmod o+rx www-data (this will let you in for read access)
[10:29] <Balz> soundray: what do you mean ?
[10:29] <soundray> Balz: the --root-directory=/mnt option tells grub-install where your stages are.
[10:29] <seb__> dose any one know if their is such a thing as a cd that i boot which then boots a usb drive because my bios dosnt support usb booting
[10:30] <soundray> Balz: /dev/sda is the disk where grub-install shall replace your MBR.
[10:30] <Engineer> hey i got some booting problems, it keeps telling me "error loading operation system" when i want to boot my windows
[10:30] <SleepyHare> Hello, Is there a way to defeat the USB2 - ehci-hcd bug?
[10:30] <Balz> soundray: oww i see so i should keep it at that
[10:30] <Balz> soundray: thats it ?, i'll go try it out ?
[10:30] <thedonvaughn> !windows | Engineer
[10:30] <ubotu> Engineer: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:31] <soundray> Balz: the full command again, once root is mounted: 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda'. Do have a look at man grub-install to familiarize yourself a bit more.
[10:31] <Engineer> ubotu: its not really a windows-problem
[10:31] <Balz> soundray: ok thx i'll try and brb
[10:31] <h|barbobot> Engineer: you need to add chainloader +1 to your grub config
[10:31] <DIL> why wud u want to boot after it is alredy booted?
[10:31] <Stormx2> thedonvaughn: Isn't that a grub error?
[10:31] <h|barbobot> this can be found in /etc/menu.lst
[10:31] <soundray> Balz: if that succeeds, you will be able to reboot into ubuntu (but probably not into Windows anymore...)
[10:31] <soundray> dank
[10:31] <Stormx2> !u | DIL
[10:31] <ubotu> DIL: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[10:31] <thedonvaughn> Stormx2: be it as it may, it's to troubleshoot windows not booting.  Off topic in my ieyees
[10:32] <seb__> dose any one know if their is such a thing as a cd that i boot which then boots a usb drive because my bios dosnt support usb booting
[10:32] <DIL> will do
[10:32] <stefg_> Engineer: it is a win problem, because that's already a post-grub message comming from the win-loader
[10:32] <heguru> Stormx2: did you manage to share the internet with your Xbox?
[10:32] <Stormx2> thedonvaughn: No, it's clearly a grub error, well within the scope of this channel.
[10:32] <Stormx2> heguru: I gave up on it for today.
[10:32] <thedonvaughn> Stormx2: ok then help him rather than argue with me :)
[10:32] <puff> Afternoon. I've successfully indoctrinated a friend into linux via ubuntu, but she's a kde fan and wants to switch to kde.  Is there a significant difference between just switching to KDE as the window manager on her current install, vs. reinstalling with kubuntu?
[10:32] <heguru> Stormx2: :)
[10:32] <Engineer> stefg: sorry then, but i tried the win channel... no one would answer
[10:32] <soundray> puff: no
[10:32] <heguru> puff: no significant different
[10:33] <astro76> puff, no, if you install kubuntu-desktop it's the same, except you'll have some gnome programs in the menus too, and vice-versa
[10:33] <soundray> puff: biggest difference may be the gnome files which will lie around uselessly after that.
[10:33] <Stormx2> puff: No difference. An install of kubuntu-desktop is exactly the same as a fresh kubuntu install
[10:33] <recon> Disregard my X problem: Fixed it.
[10:33] <DIL> ubotu: Why Dutch Flemis or Government officee, please enlighten
[10:33] <seb__> dose any one know if their is such a thing as a cd that i boot which then boots a usb drive because my bios dosnt support usb booting
[10:33] <puff> Cool, thanks.
[10:33] <soundray> puff: wow, so many replies. You must be convinced now :)
[10:34] <a69oker> hi 2 all
[10:34] <recon> 2
[10:34] <Engineer> barbobot: i added that line to the grub config, but grub wont recognize the windows-installatino
[10:34] <puff> I am :-)
[10:34] <a69oker> anyone got a clue how to save the position of gdesklets.... in gnome?
[10:34] <DIL> ah, i see very funny?
[10:34] <silent[ca] > will the stable release of gutsy differ from that released now? will I be able to update to that stable release from the development release?
[10:34] <ubersoldat> a69oker: good question... I've never been able to do that
[10:35] <stefg_> !kde | puff
[10:35] <a69oker> ubersoldat...:)
[10:35] <axel_s> hi, where can I change the cursor theme?
[10:35] <AncientRelic> silent[ca] : you should be able to
[10:35] <thedonvaughn> silent[ca] : yes it will probably differ.  yes you will be able to update to stable since you are already using the repos.  Please seel further support in #ubuntu+1
[10:35] <a69oker> ubersoldat: let's figure it out...
[10:35] <ubotu> puff: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[10:35] <swhalen> Could someone help me?
[10:35] <Stormx2> I'm so sick of my connection dropping. This has gone beyond irritating.
[10:35] <silent[ca] > Is it possible to backup my current gnome settings/layout for the upgrade?
[10:35] <heguru> swhalen: what is your question?
[10:35] <ubersoldat> axel_s: have you tryed System -> PReferences -> Mouse ... ???
[10:36] <ubersoldat> silent[ca] : just save you /home
[10:36] <thedonvaughn> silent[ca] : need to back up your .gtkrc* file and .gnome2 directory as well as .config  .. may be some more.  all in all just back up your /home :)
[10:36] <Kreml> Fuck "Stew". Lame asswhipe! ... Irc is changing again.. to the disamay of the elderscrolls, you have to poser to please us, make it so jounglings!
[10:36] <thedonvaughn> that's why i always create my own seperate /home partition
[10:36] <axel_s> ubersoldat, theres a tab button and motion but neither one contains an option to change the theme
[10:36] <swhalen> hegeru: I broke my gtk themes, i dont know what i did. none of them work
[10:36] <ubersoldat> thedonvaughn: same here
[10:36] <silent[ca] > ubersoldat, will that cause incompatibility issues? or will any deprecated config files remain stagnant?
[10:37] <heguru> swhalen: are you using compiz/beryl?
[10:37] <ubersoldat> silent[ca] : no "pointers" tab?
[10:37] <puff> I wonder if compiz/beryl will ever work with my thinkpad.
[10:37] <thedonvaughn> puff: what card do u have?
[10:37] <silent[ca] > ubersoldat, the issue is, I'm currently on debian, going to upgrade to gutsy base
[10:37] <swhalen> heguru: Tried off and on, still nothing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=574143
[10:37] <silent[ca] > and install everything from there
[10:38] <a69oker> exit
[10:38] <axel_s> ubersoldat, you talking to me? no "Pointers" tab
[10:38] <ubersoldat> silent[ca] : no problem then
[10:38] <ubersoldat> yes axel_s sorry
[10:38] <Stormx2> silent[ca] : Why, out of interest?
[10:38] <ubersoldat> Stormx2: cuz Ubuntu rules!
[10:38] <comicinke1> stef_g: that tip was great
[10:39] <`Matir> anyone know of a way to install gutsy from the iso on an external hard disk?
[10:39] <Stormx2> silent[ca] : Why only install base? What will you be using the box for?
[10:39] <silent[ca] > Stormx2, larger support base, more compatibility, more forum guides I know will work... instead of... "hmm, where can I find that since i dont use that repository..."
[10:39] <khairall> I have a question
[10:39] <heguru> swhalen: try to reinstall gnome-themes: sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome-themes
[10:39] <myo> hi all.  newb question. I am currently running feisty fawn.   I would like to switch from Gnome to KDE.  Is there a way to easily switch window managers without wiping and installing Kubuntu?
[10:39] <khairall> How to change my hostname
[10:39] <puff> thedonvaughn: ATI MOBILITY FIRE GL V3200 - 128 MB
[10:39] <mrannanj> hi myo
[10:39] <thedonvaughn> puff: should work with XGL.
[10:39] <thedonvaughn> !ati | puff
[10:39] <ubotu> puff: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:39] <Incompetnce> so im using gnome and i want to do that thing to get the KDE working i just need to know approximately how big the download is if i do "sudo apt-get kde-desktop" or whatever it is...
[10:39] <Salvo59> SaLvOo!
[10:39] <silent[ca] > Stormx2, it's a desktop, but I like a simple system, I'll install what I want. I dont need/want all the applications that come by default
[10:39] <soundray> khairall: 'echo newhostname | sudo tee /etc/hostname' -- then update /etc/hosts
[10:40] <myo> rannanj: hi
[10:40] <mrannanj> myo: right Incompetnce said it :)
[10:40] <Stormx2> silent[ca] , ah, okay. Best of luck, I've never tried that.
[10:40] <myo> puff: thanks for the email
[10:40] <silent[ca] > Stormx2, I just recently did it with base debian etch so it shouldn't be too much hassle
[10:40] <Stormx2> okay :)
[10:41] <Incompetnce> myo: go here http://www.debianadmin.com/install-kde-desktop-in-ubuntu.html
[10:41] <ubersoldat> silent[ca] : then you better try alternative
[10:41] <silent[ca] > ubersoldat, always ;P
[10:41] <khairall> soundray: after rebooting, would the effects
[10:41] <silent[ca] > I dont get live anymore
[10:41] <myo> rannaj:  it's really that easy?    there is nothing specifically optimized for kde in kubuntu?
[10:41] <khairall> remain
[10:41] <Incompetnce> myo, its not exactly what i typed. i was close though ;)
[10:41] <myo> incompetnce: thanks!
[10:42] <puff> myo: Hm?
[10:42] <stefg_> Incompetnce: i'd guess 400-500 MB to d/l when installing kubuntu-desktop
[10:42] <soundray> khairall: yes. In fact, you should reboot to make sure every bit of your system is up to date on the name change.
[10:42] <marek347> just installed Ubuntu 7.04, where (which file) do i configure network card please? it does not seem to pick up any network interfaces. thx
[10:42] <swhalen> heguru: still nothing. I think im missing an engine of somesort?
[10:42] <khairall> soundray: I tried doing that but did not work.
[10:42] <Incompetnce> stefg_ thanks
[10:42] <Juntistik> hello everyone
[10:42] <mrannanj> myo: i think you have to switch init start kdm and not gdm
[10:43] <myo> puff: I am assuming you are a certain person I know most likely sitting at the hive?
[10:43] <acecase> hey
[10:43] <flokuehn> swhalen: you have compiu/beryl installed right?
[10:43] <myo> rannanj: cool thanks.  I
[10:43] <soundray> khairall: you tried this before I suggested it?
[10:43] <jchillerup> Hey. Do I want a 32b or a 64b version of ubuntu to be installed on my Core 2 Duo iMac?
[10:43] <Juntistik> can anyone help me with my ubuntu laptop? i was installing some things for my nvidia drivers
[10:43] <Juntistik> and then i restarted and now my x server crashes
[10:43] <khairall> yes,
[10:43] <silent[ca] > jchillerup, save yourself the grey hair, go 32
[10:43] <Juntistik> leaving me at a command prompt
[10:43] <Juntistik> i can view all my files from a live cd
[10:43] <swhalen> heguru: Human works. and yes, compiz is installed but not running
[10:43] <soundray> jchillerup: your choice.
[10:43] <Juntistik> but i cant log in
[10:43] <khairall> I found a link on http://www.cpqlinux.com/hostname.html
[10:43] <jchillerup> silent[ca] , will I suffer from severe performance losses?
[10:44] <heguru> swhalen: well you can try to reinstall the theme engines as well, sudo apt-get --reinstall install  gtk2-engines  gtk2-engines-murrine  gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[10:44] <flokuehn> swhalen: if yes. its just a short time away i also had problem with my kde and had to reinstall the whole system
[10:44] <acecase> anybody old enough to remember when we always had an option to "restart in msdos mode"? How hard would it be to build that in to ubuntu myself?
[10:44] <stefg_> Juntistik: what did you do?
[10:44] <soundray> jchillerup: 64bit = faster, but more problems with closed-source software (Flash, Adobe Reader, Skype etc)
[10:44] <jchillerup> soundray, It's mainly for encoding
[10:44] <silent[ca] > jchillerup, not noticeably. I have the pleasure of running a c2d myself. You'll end up giong to 32 anyway
[10:44] <ubersoldat> acecase: why would you want that?
[10:44] <AsusG1> How do I recover the password for my nick?
[10:44] <heguru> acecase: there is something called recovery mode (press escape on boot)
[10:44] <jchillerup> so I kindda need its full potential
[10:44] <soundray> acecase: it's already there (recovery mode)
[10:44] <Juntistik> im not exactly sure, i had made alot of changes before i rebooted and realized the problem
[10:44] <soundray> jchillerup: go for 64bit then
[10:44] <Juntistik> i know that i installed some nvidia driver packages from synaptic
[10:44] <ompaul> AsusG1, in irc?
[10:44] <mrannanj> AsusG1: reboot in recovery mode and change passwd
[10:44] <marek347> which one's network config file pls?
[10:45] <AsusG1> In IRC
[10:45] <soundray> jchillerup: erm, open-source codecs?
[10:45] <Juntistik> maybe tried to upgrade a kernal
[10:45] <Esteth> if i simply tar my /home/esteth folder and stick the tar on a DVD, after, say, upgrading to gutsy, or reinstalling feisty, can i just untar and it will "just work" ?
[10:45] <jchillerup> soundray, yes.
[10:45] <Juntistik> im new to linux so i have been trying to wing it
[10:45] <jchillerup> H.264
[10:45] <acecase> ubersoldat, I just realized I said that wrong. restart in msdos mode was a win95/98 thing. I mean when linux distroes always had a way to say shutdown and restart in windows
[10:45] <soundray> khairall: sorry, got sidetracked. What do you get from 'cat /etc/hostname'
[10:45] <jchillerup> (open source encoder)
[10:45] <mrannanj> AsusG1: join #freenode and shout for staffer
[10:45] <silent[ca] > jchillerup, if you're sure you can encode using 64 bit software that will work, then go 64, but for a general desktop environment 32 wins out
[10:45] <acecase> heguru, soundray ^ sorry :)
[10:45] <jchillerup> OK.
[10:45] <ompaul> AsusG1, as a freenode staffer pm me
[10:45] <mheath> So, I recently did an install of Feisty on my tablet PC. It has Nvidia graphics, and I hve the NVidia driver installed. However, Compiz has problems (Desktop background and icons disappear), Beryl has problems (Windows contents are just black/empty), and Compiz Fusion won't start(Gives a vague error about how there is less than 64MB of VRAM and nvidia drivers).
[10:45] <mheath> Can anyone give any suggestions on getting Compiz working?
[10:46] <ompaul> AsusG1, or even as I am a freenode staffer pm me
[10:46] <khairall> I get greif
[10:46] <Juntistik> would i be best off reformatting?
[10:46] <Juntistik> i had to do alot to get my wireless working so im trying to avoid it ;)
[10:46] <mheath> I'd even go with opensource nvidia drivers, if any work with Compiz...I don't care about performing, just like some eyecandy stuff that requires a composite rendering framework
[10:46] <puff> myo: Yup.
[10:46] <puff> myo: You are?
[10:46] <soundray> khairall: is that the old or the new hostname?
[10:46] <khairall> this is the new
[10:46] <heguru> acecase: grub-reboot 2 (if windows is the third boot entry)
[10:46] <acecase> mheath, 7.10 is coming out soon. if you can hold out till 18th/19th it works much better
[10:46] <stefg_> Juntistik: are you on Live CD now?
[10:46] <puff> Actually, at the moment I'm about ten blocks down the street, at the Terminal Way complex.
[10:47] <myo> puff: give you a hint... I just emailed you the question I came here to ask about KDE/Ubuntu
[10:47] <acecase> heguru, that's it?
[10:47] <mheath> acecase: 7.10 isn't any better.
[10:47] <seb__> quick question what program should i use to burn a iso
[10:47] <soundray> khairall: did you enter that in /etc/hosts as well? (Second line)
[10:47] <Juntistik> im on my windows desktop with the laptop in front of me
[10:47] <puff> ahas.
[10:47] <acecase> mheath, ic :)
[10:47] <heguru> acecase: yes :)
[10:47] <Juntistik> i have my logs up
[10:47] <Juntistik> and such
[10:47] <puff> myo: I already asked and replied :-).
[10:47] <mheath> acecase: 7.10 breaks my tablet PC's tablet.
[10:47] <acecase> heguru, thanks
[10:47] <myo> puff: gotcha thanks!
[10:47] <heguru> acecase: welcome
[10:47] <mrannanj> mheath: nvidia drivers were too unstable for me so i went back to no compiz :)
[10:47] <Juntistik> i can swap the ethernet cable if i need to be accessing it with it
[10:47] <khairall> The reason I say it is not working is because when I ssh to anoither machine and then ssh back in it doesnot work
[10:47] <mheath> acecase: Locks up the tablet when it comes out of hibernate or suspend.
[10:47] <bb-g> llo all
[10:47] <puff> Say thanks to stefg_, soundray
[10:47] <Juntistik> hello
[10:47] <seb__> quick question what program should i use to burn a iso to a cd-r
[10:47] <flokuehn> bb-g: hi
[10:47] <mheath> mrannanj: Thats odd. Up until this laptop, I've had the exact opposite experience: Compiz had always 'just worked', and done so perfectly, when using Nvidia proprietary drivers
[10:47] <acecase> mheath, that is a very common compiz issue with nvidia chips
[10:48] <Juntistik> nero
[10:48] <swhalen> heguru: i think i will need to do the same :( were you able to keep your home folder?
[10:48] <Juntistik> seb use nero
[10:48] <silent[ca] > seb__, its integrated
[10:48] <soundray> khairall: elaborate on "does not work" please
[10:48] <khairall> yes I did
[10:48] <mrannanj> mheath: what sort of problem do you have?
[10:48] <Juntistik> oh yeah
[10:48] <compengi> is there a resent update for those packages "hpijs, hplip and hplip-data"?
[10:48] <Juntistik> we're talking linux
[10:48] <mheath> acecase: Any workarounds for Feisty?
[10:48] <Juntistik> rofl
[10:48] <puff> Say thanks to stefg_, soundray, Stormx2, astro76, a nd heguru.  In no partiuclar order.
[10:48] <seb__> were is the option
[10:48] <soundray> !burniso > seb__
[10:48] <astro76> seb__, right click on the iso in the file manager
[10:48] <silent[ca] > seb__, oh... from windows... use cdburnerxp pro... extremely good freeware app... or you can use... another thing cant remember one sec
[10:48] <Scunizi> Juntistik: nero is integrated?  into Feisty? or Gutsy?
[10:48] <khairall> I can not ssh back in. the connection doesnot work since address not recognised
[10:48] <flokuehn> !createiso
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about createiso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <mrannanj> mheath: oh i see you already said your problem
[10:48] <stefg_> Juntistik: to get back into the gui first you should use the free nv driver. so edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace 'nvidia' in the driver section with 'nv'
[10:48] <Juntistik> its not
[10:48] <Juntistik> im sorry i wasnt thinking
[10:48] <acecase> mheath, There are gobs of "fixes" people are trying. I noticed when I was getting mine going that some work some don't it is very system specific.
[10:48] <seb__> im in ubuntu
[10:48] <Juntistik> i just burned a live cd with my windows pc so i was thinking windows, sorry =/
[10:49] <Juntistik> my bad
[10:49] <acecase> mheath, mileage may very kinda thing that is HARD to troubleshoot
[10:49] <Esteth> will a "copy and paste" to and from DVD work to backup my home directory in case of reformat and reinstall?
[10:49] <seb__> thanks found the option in the right clikc menu
[10:49] <Scunizi> seb__: k3b at the slowest speed.. sudo apt-get install k3b
[10:49] <silent[ca] > seb__, right click the iso
[10:49] <soundray> khairall: is that on the local network or the internet?
[10:49] <mheath> acecase: I might give Gutsy another try. I attempt to run it on this laptop, but had some problems.
[10:49] <seb__> thats the one k3b
[10:49] <Juntistik> okay hold on
[10:49] <Juntistik> ill try that
[10:49] <khairall> internet
[10:49] <heguru> Esteth: yes it will
[10:49] <Panagant> DIL: ?
[10:50] <Esteth> heguru: thanks :)
[10:50] <soundray> khairall: on the internet, you would have to update your DNS entry
[10:50] <mheath> acecase: It was kind of a Frenkenstein-esk install...Feisty installed on another laptop, and the harddrive was pulled, put in this one, and upgraded to Gutsy. I think some of the problems may have been that a few packages weren't configured properly.
[10:50] <bb-g> doe someone know if in Gutsy you can make ntfs partitions?
[10:50] <silent[ca] > I'm wondering what the fastest way to obtain the cd image would be... direct http/ftp download or bittorrent?
[10:50] <PriceChild> !gutsy | bb-g
[10:50] <ubotu> bb-g: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:50] <acecase> mheath, if you lockup or somthing before you get a chance to update try loging in to xterm safemode from the login screen and run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. A LOT of fixes have come out by the day
[10:50] <khairall> can u elaborate please
[10:50] <stefg_> Juntistik: if you want me to notice you, put my nick in frint when yopu talk to mem so i get a highlight
[10:50] <PriceChild> silent[ca] , we'd prefer torrent if possible.
[10:51] <acecase> mheath, yeah that could have been a problem :)
[10:51] <khairall> I went under network and added a new alias to my static ip
[10:51] <Juntistik> it says that it is read only
[10:51] <silent[ca] > PriceChild, you would prefer, but how many seeds are going on gutsy?
[10:51] <PriceChild> silent[ca] , +1 please
[10:51] <Juntistik> i cant log in to my user account for some reason
[10:51] <ad4m> there are too many users on this channel
[10:51] <puff> myo: Also this may be useful:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[10:51] <ad4m> see you guys
[10:51] <Juntistik> so im just on the default live account i suppose
[10:51] <khairall> soundray: under general I put greif for host name
[10:51] <soundray> khairall: you went under network?
[10:52] <acecase> you guys have a good one. gotta get back to Windows :) and finish my powerpoint for class.
[10:52] <khairall> and kept the domain name
[10:52] <acecase> see yahs
[10:52] <khairall> yes
[10:52] <soundray> khairall: sorry, I don't understand that
[10:52] <auk> greetings from ath,gre
[10:52] <auk> anyone knows if there is a suitable ubuntu driver for siemens cl110 adsl router?
[10:53] <khairall> OK, can you carry on with what you wanted to tell me
[10:53] <myo> ok this may be a really dumb question..am I correct that all of my programs should still run under kde?   the only ones I really use are pidgin, swiftfox, xchat, liferea.
[10:53] <khairall> That is, how to set the DNS
[10:53] <soundray> Trying to build lirc modules. The instructions tell me to run "make-kpkg --revision number modules_image". What should I enter as "number" to compile for an existing kernel.
[10:53] <soundray> ?
[10:53] <compengi> i used this command wget -q http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - to add this key, is there a way i can remove it?
[10:53] <soundray> khairall: that depends on your setup
[10:53] <PriceChild> myo, yes
[10:53] <myo> pricechild: thanks
[10:53] <puff> myo: I can tell you that generally, the answer is yes.
[10:54] <Juntistikalism> IH
[10:54] <Juntistikalism> Hi
[10:54] <Juntistik> hahaha
[10:54] <khairall> so so I have to contact the administrator of the network to change my hostname
[10:54] <heguru> auk: are you using the USB or RJ45 connection to connect it to your machine?
[10:54] <Engineer> could anybody please help me with a boot-problem?  i get the message "error loading operation system"... i installed ubuntu, then wanted to boot windows again, but it didnt show up in the booting menu.. i tried to add it, but the partition is not recognized
[10:54] <Juntistik> why hello there person with part of my name
[10:54] <puff> myo: that is, there is a possibility of some issue, but it's a generally safe assumption that thigns will still run.
[10:54] <PriceChild> myo, I "think" in feisty there is a bug in gtk-qt-engines that means in xchat you won't get channel names changing colour in the list view.
[10:54] <soundray> khairall: probably
[10:54] <PriceChild> Juntistik, because he chose it.
[10:54] <_will_> There we go
[10:54] <Juntistik> how can i edit read only files while booting from a live disk?
[10:54] <auk> heguru => USB
[10:54] <Juntistik> im trying to edit xorg.config
[10:54] <khairall> Is there now way to create an alias I can use to refer to my oldhostname
[10:54] <myo> pricechild: huh?
[10:55] <soundray> Juntistik: open it with gksudo gedit
[10:55] <PriceChild> myo, channels on the left hand side in xchat... change colour with different events.
[10:55] <soundray> khairall: sure, you can make a fixed entry in the /etc/hosts of the other machine
[10:55] <PriceChild> myo, in kubuntu feisty there is a bug that stops that happenning unless you change it to tab view.
[10:55] <myo> pricechild k
[10:56] <Engineer> could anybody please help me with a boot-problem?  i get the message "error loading operation system"... i installed ubuntu, then wanted to boot my old windows again and it didnt show up in the booting menu
[10:56] <myo> pricechild puff incompetnce: thanks all gott run
[10:56] <khairall> The directions that the website I mentionned, do they permanently change the way I ssh to my machine?
[10:56] <stefg> !grub | Engineer
[10:56] <ubotu> Engineer: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:58] <auk> heguru => sorry i m using RJ45 to connect the device
[10:58] <auk> heguru => not USB
[10:58] <Juntistik> i cant open it with gksudo
[10:58] <heguru> auk: then you don't need a special driver, just install pppoeconf
[10:58] <compengi> i used this command wget -q http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - to add this key, is there a way i can remove it?
[10:58] <Juntistik> it just opens up a blank text editor
[10:59] <Juntistik> when i type gksudo gedit xorg.conf
[10:59] <Juntistik> am i not putting that in right
[10:59] <moope2> Hi, I have just plugged my cable modem into my ubuntu laptop via the ethernet but nothing is doing the dhcp. How should I set this up?
[10:59] <heguru> auk: on terminal type: sudo apt-get install pppoeconf
[10:59] <astro76> compengi, sudo apt-key list, then use the key id with sudo apt-key del <keyid>
[10:59] <astro76> compengi, man apt-key for all options
[11:00] <soundray> Juntistik: you have to give it the full path. It's in /etc/X11. Use File-Open from where you are.
[11:00] <auk> heguru => when running pppoeconf, the blue window starts and trying to scan for a device / my eth card is listed in the device list but the scan doesnt find the router
[11:00] <macd> !java > macd
[11:00] <Engineer> juntis: just right-click on the file xorg, then select "open with other..", find texteditor and add "gksudo" in front of the "gedit"
[11:00] <Juntistik> okay
[11:00] <Juntistik> who was it that was telling me to change nvidia to nv?
[11:00] <danielmarsom> having a bit of trouble with workspaces in compiz... i only seem to have 1 workspace and I don't know how to fix it
[11:00] <Juntistik> because it is already nv
[11:00] <heartsblood> is it possible to pass several root level commands to sudo?
[11:00] <heartsblood> -at once
[11:00] <macd> !multiverse > macd
[11:00] <sacamano> Question for you all.....I have an external HD of 120gb capacity, there's only 86gig's worth of stuff on it, yet Ubuntu is telling me I only have 125mb free space on the drive.
[11:01] <_will_> how are your partitions setup?
[11:01] <heartsblood> sacamano: sounds like the partition table got scewed when you formated
[11:01] <Scunizi> sacamano: is there unpartitioned space on it.?
[11:01] <sacamano> no
[11:01] <Engineer> could anybody please help me with a boot-problem?  i get the message "error loading operation system"... i installed ubuntu, then wanted to boot windows again, but it didnt show up in the booting menu.. i tried to add it, but the partition is not recognized
[11:01] <_will_> yeah dude
[11:01] <stefg> Juntistik: so that's the easier driver to get going. what error do you get when you try to boot to GUI ?
[11:01] <sacamano> i dont think i've ever formatted it either heartsblood scunizi
[11:01] <Scunizi> sacamano: or is it partitioned more than once.
[11:01] <soundray> heartsblood: sudo sh -c 'command1 ; command2'
[11:01] <xIke> anyone know how to remove items from the menu?  I have wine apps showign up that I've uninstalled
[11:01] <heguru> auk: is your router configured properly (it should be configured for bridge mode)
[11:02] <heartsblood> soundray: ty
[11:02] <Juntistik> let me boot real quick, it say ssomething about x server crashing
[11:02] <sacamano> no, and i havent done any partitioning since it randomly showed up like this
[11:02] <heguru> xIke: rightclick at the menu and click edit-menus
[11:02] <soundray> xike: use alacarte to edit the menu
[11:02] <compengi> astro76, i got those http://paste.ubuntu.com/843/ do you know which one refers to the one i added?
[11:02] <Juntistik> i notice a few new things showing when im booting up as well so ill do it real quick
[11:02] <xIke> heguru, yeah, that doesn't let me remove stuff, just enable/disable it
[11:03] <heartsblood> soundray: what exactly does that command do?  sudo shell.. '-c'?
[11:03] <astro76> compengi, it's not the first two
[11:03] <heguru> xIke: you can right click any item and click delete
[11:03] <xIke> soundray, same problem...I can only move stuff.  any idea how to rename/delete stuff?
[11:03] <auk> heguru => i ll check that - i ll config it from Windows - the settings will still work when i boot in ubuntu?
[11:03] <xIke> heguru, ah, thanks
[11:03] <heguru> auk: that should be good
[11:03] <heartsblood> oh n/m
[11:03] <compengi> astro76, then the third one?
[11:03] <syczu> #d
[11:04] <xIke> heguru, any way to rename items?  I right click and choose properties and nothing comes up
[11:04] <heartsblood> I wasn't aware you could execute a shell enviroment within sudo
[11:04] <Engineer> Could anybody p help me with a boot-problem? I had a windows XP system, when I installed ubuntu. Then I wanted to boot windows again, but it didnt show up in the booting menu.. I tried to add it, but the partition is not recognized
[11:04] <astro76> compengi, the third one is one you added
[11:04] <auk> heguru => thx for ur time and for ur help
[11:04] <Juntistik> it says
[11:04] <Juntistik> no resume image
[11:04] <soundray> heartsblood: you can even do it interactive: sudo -i
[11:04] <compengi> astro76, Okay, thanks a lot
[11:04] <Juntistik> doing hard boot
[11:04] <Juntistik> and then that flashes
[11:04] <xIke> aaaah, right-click:delete and right-click:properties both do nothing
[11:04] <Juntistik> and it says failed to start the x server ( your graphical interface) it is ilkely that it is not set up correctly
[11:05] <heartsblood> yea I knew about that, but I couldn't figure out if it was possible to pass commands on the same line as -i.  it opens up the root shell then kills the rest of the line
[11:05] <soundray> heartsblood: sudo sh -c is also useful for output redirection, if you dislike sudo tee
[11:05] <Juntistik> when i click the button to "diagnose" the problem
[11:05] <Juntistik> it says
[11:05] <soundray> !enter | Juntistik
[11:05] <ubotu> Juntistik: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:05] <soundray> !pastebin | Juntistik
[11:05] <ubotu> Juntistik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:05] <Juntistik> alright sorry
[11:05] <stefg> Juntistik: ok, ignore the resume image stuff, that doesn't relate. Run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' on the command line
[11:06] <Juntistik> i apologize
[11:06] <Engineer> -__-  nobody got an idea why I can't boot anymore?
[11:07] <soundray> Engineer: what does your Windows boot section in menu.lst look like? Please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:07] <Juntistik> alright, it says xserver-org is not installed and no info is available.
[11:07] <PriceChild> Juntistik, -xorg
[11:07] <soundray> Juntistik: xserver-xorg
[11:07] <stefg> Juntistik: no typos allowed
[11:08] <Juntistik> Hahaha. im ridiculous
[11:08] <heartsblood> does the gutsy version of compiz have the 3d desktop plugin yet?
[11:08] <PriceChild> !gutsy | heartsblood
[11:08] <ubotu> heartsblood: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:08] <heartsblood> ><
[11:08] <P_Kable> where is the website where we can choose different servers for the sources.list depending on our loaction ? Please
[11:08] <Engineer> soundray: it looks like the example in the menu.lst, just with adjusted partition
[11:08] <silent[ca] > heartsblood, I suggest #ubuntu+1
[11:08] <P_Kable> location*
[11:08] <soundray> Engineer: what have you adjusted it to?
[11:09] <Engineer> hd0,6)
[11:09] <Juntistik> alright, and i select nv as my driver?
[11:09] <heartsblood> so I can't ask gusty questions in here for another 6 days? sheesh
[11:09] <stefg> Juntistik: right+
[11:09] <silent[ca] > heartsblood, yep ;)
[11:09] <Engineer> which is the location of my windows
[11:09] <heartsblood>  /cry
[11:09] <soundray> heartsblood: it makes good sense, because the experts for unstable software are over there.
[11:10] <heartsblood> that's like being 20 and being denied at the abc 6 days before your birtyday
[11:10] <silent[ca] > heartsblood, gotta keep them separate
[11:10] <heguru> P_Kable: System -> Administration -> Software Sources then select your location
[11:10] <heartsblood> yea yea yea
[11:10] <heartsblood> i'm going i'm going ><
[11:10] <Juntistik> where it says i can pick my resolution, should i just leave what is already selected?
[11:10] <P_Kable> heguru=>  there is a website for that
[11:10] <P_Kable> anybody knows where is that site ?
[11:10] <soundray> Engineer: your Windows is on /dev/sda7 ?
[11:10] <stefg> Engineer: you are aware that grub counts from 0, while the kernel counts from 1.. so e.g hda6 is (hd0,5) in grub speak
[11:11] <Engineer> soundray: yes, it is
[11:11] <heguru> P_Kable: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[11:11] <Tr0gd0r> anyone can help me with this http://pastebin.ca/734592
[11:11] <neverblue2> I want to speak with someone about turning monitors on and off, its complicated, whose up for the task ?
[11:11] <soundray> Engineer: the offset from the partition start may be too big for Windows to deal with
[11:11] <stefg> Engineer: 1024 cylinder problem with your BIOS ?
[11:12] <P_Kable> no heguru this is not this site
[11:12] <soundray> neverblue2: you still haven't learned to pose good questions
[11:12] <Engineer> stefg: what is this problem? how can I tell if I got it?
[11:12] <astronaught> who broke svn?  The update today removed SSL support!
[11:12] <stefg> Engineer: how old is that bios aprrox. ?
[11:12] <Engineer> 3-4 years, its Award 6.0
[11:12] <soundray> Engineer: I'm afraid you'll only find out by moving your Windows partition.
[11:13] <neverblue2> soundray, excuse me?
[11:13] <soundray> !elaborate | neverblue2
[11:13] <ubotu> neverblue2: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[11:13] <Juntistik> alright it says xserver-xorg postinst warning:overwriting possibly-customised configuration file;backup in etc/x11/xorg.conf.20071012151210, should i just reboot at this point?
[11:13] <Engineer> soundray: how could I move it?
[11:13] <neverblue2> ill elaborate when someone is confident enough they can assist
[11:13] <astronaught> svn has dropped ssl support in latest update (today)... anyone else found that?
[11:13] <neverblue2> as its a long discussion
[11:14] <heguru> neverblue2: and how can one be confident that they can assist without known what you need assistance with?
[11:14] <RoR2is> does anyone here know  the command to login using nick (I m registered by the way)
[11:14] <stefg> Engineer: then it might just not be able to access that far back on the disk. many older BIOSs can't get past cyl. 1024 on the disk. Only cure is to repartition and get win in front of the 1024 cyl. limit
[11:14] <Juntistik> use pastebin i suppose, im sure someone here can help once they view it
[11:14] <Phydoux> Is it possible to write to NTFS yet with Ubuntu?
[11:14] <kitche> neverblue2: if you don't elaborate no one will help you
[11:14] <soundray> Engineer: using gparted. But it can be hairy, depending on what's on the first few partitions
[11:14] <preaction> !ntfs-3g | Phydoux
[11:14] <ubotu> Phydoux: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:14] <soundray> neverblue2: how can ANYONE be confident about a problem they no NOTHING about
[11:14] <Phydoux> Thanks!
[11:14] <neverblue2> ah, well, heguru and kitche, you just appear to want to rant, rather than help, so please, no need to reply
[11:14] <RoR2is> does anyone here know  the command to login using nick (I m registered by the way)
[11:14] <astronaught> how can I downgrade to the previous version of the svn package after an update?
[11:14] <neverblue2> soundray, some people really know alot about Linux
[11:15] <trpr> neverblue2: let me jump in the rant. i agree. state your question and those who know will help
[11:15] <Juntistik> neverblue, calm down man, im sure someone here can help. just put the stuff in pastebin and post a url to it
[11:15] <heguru> RoR2is: /msg nickserv identify password
[11:15] <danielmarsom> '/ns identify yourpassword
[11:15] <Juntistik> soundray does, him and stefg are helping me out alot
[11:15] <danielmarsom> whitout the quote
[11:15] <neverblue2> trpr, you also dont appear to want to help
[11:15] <RoR2is> heguru : thanx
[11:15] <soundray> neverblue2: you're just the kind of guy people are eager to give help to. Not.
[11:15] <stefg> soundray: Engineer , i'd bet tomorrows lunch that gparted will toast the partitions in that case
[11:15] <Cable86> i can't remember my nick's password :-(
[11:15] <kitche> neverblue2: I am one that knows linux unless you tell me what is the problem I won't help you
[11:15] <neverblue2> oh, haha, your so funny
[11:15] <soundray> neverblue2: passing judgment instead of describing your problem
[11:15] <Stormx2> RoR2is: be sure to do it in the server tab, not a channel
[11:15] <Tr0gd0r> help? http://pastebin.ca/734592
[11:15] <trpr> neverblue2: on the contrary. i am not willing to sit down for a long period of time and discuss your problem without first knowing if i can even solve it.
[11:15] <Cable86> i did associate it with my email address though....any way to retrieve it?
[11:15] <Engineer> stefg & soundray: I got the first 2 partitions for my ubuntu, which I dont want to mess up... it is my only remaining system
[11:15] <trpr> neverblue2: good luck finding volunteers for that
[11:16] <soundray> stefg: I won't bet against that.
[11:16] <Engineer> :(
[11:16] <Engineer> not that encouraging, are you?
[11:16] <soundray> Engineer: have you got a spare disk?
[11:16] <Juntistik> so should i restart at this point guys? it says that the conf has been changed and that it has been backed up
[11:17] <Llivavin> Can someone help me get wine to read my USB headset? It reads the Headphone part, just not the mic
[11:17] <Engineer> soundray: hd you mean, or cd?
[11:17] <soundray> Engineer: hd
[11:17] <stefg> Juntistik: just run 'sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart ... if you're lucky you have a gui then
[11:17] <Engineer> no, i dont :(
[11:17] <neverblue2> Llivavin, possibly try in #winehq ?
[11:17] <Llivavin> neverblue2: They never responded.
[11:18] <Engineer> but I wanted to buy a new 400 GB hd for my Ubuntu...
[11:18] <Engineer> you think this might help?
[11:18] <neverblue2> how can I turn a monitor on and off, from a single command ?
[11:18] <Juntistik> VERY NICE, thank you so much stefg, soundray, and everyone who helped me out :) you guys are great
[11:18] <soundray> Engineer: oh, great, do that and come back, we'll help you copy stuff over and set it up.
[11:18] <stefg> !nvidia | Juntistik: now read
[11:18] <ubotu> Juntistik: now read: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <soundray> Juntistik: not sure I know what I did, but I'm sure glad you're happy :)
[11:19] <Engineer> can I copy (mirror) a whole partition to a new disk?
[11:19] <Cable86> does anyone know how to retrieve a password for a nick that is associated with an email address?
[11:19] <trpr> neverblue2: i have a feeling you could use xset to set the dpms power off to some really low number
[11:19] <Juntistik> haha i spent like 15 hours trying to teach myself how to fix that problem, i wish i would have came here quicker
[11:20] <neverblue2> trpr, is I was a user on a system, what groups must I be in for me to 'xset dpms force off' ?
[11:20] <neverblue2> s/is/if/
[11:20] <chuy_max> can anyone please help me configure my elo touch screen monitor?
[11:20] <soundray> neverblue2: just enter 'xset dpms force off' and be done with it
[11:21] <neverblue2> soundray, thanks, but you have been help enough :)
[11:21] <soundray> neverblue2: no special groups necessary
[11:21] <Engineer> soundray: can I copy (mirror) a whole partition to a new disk? then I could easily kill some partitions on my old HD..
[11:21] <soundray> neverblue2: after all that palaver about a "difficult problem", it turns out it's a one liner. Great.
[11:21] <livecduser230912> i'm confused with the commands in terminal to mount my ntfs external partition
[11:21] <livecduser230912> it told me to call on :
[11:22] <soundray> Engineer: yes, gparted will let you copy partitions and their contents.
[11:22] <neverblue2> trpr, am I asking the wrong person ?
[11:22] <soundray> Engineer: when done, you will need to adapt grub and /etc/fstab
[11:22] <livecduser230912> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc2/media/Sentinel -o force
[11:22] <stefg> !backup | Engineer
[11:22] <ubotu> Engineer: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:22] <livecduser230912> what goes after that because apparently, i'm not using a full command if its throwing back the options and all?
[11:22] <Engineer> but you just did not want to bet your breakfast for my data...
[11:23] <Evanlec> !nvidia
[11:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:23] <Engineer> the moment before
[11:23] <trpr> neverblue2: not sure. i was testing it out ;) you should be able to use xset on the display which belongs to your user. not sure what group you would have to be in to use it on another display. im thinking it will take root
[11:23] <soundray> Engineer: it was lunch. And at the time, there was no talk about a second disk. Having a 2nd drive makes it all a lot easier.
[11:23] <livecduser230912> anyone help me please?
[11:23] <livecduser230912> :\
[11:24] <soundray> trpr: have you tried xset dpms force off? No need for root
[11:24] <neverblue2> trpr, now if you were to setup a cron to do it, you need to export DISPLAY as well
[11:24] <trpr> soundray: try it on a display which belongs to another user. i am certain it won't work
[11:25] <soundray> livecduser230912: 'sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc2 /media/Sentinel' -- watch the spaces
[11:25] <dgjones> livecduser230912, looking at the command, it looks like you are missing a space between the sdc2/media
[11:25] <Engineer> soundray: ok, fine, I will order a new disk
[11:25] <trpr> neverblue2: oh? you can't use the -display option from xset instead of that shell var?
[11:25] <_fang> hi all, completely off-topic, but is there any french speaker here so that i can ask how to write down one sentence in french?
[11:25] <neverblue2> trpr, try it :)
[11:25] <stefg> !offtopic
[11:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:26] <soundray> trpr: I would try  sudo su - otheruser DISPLAY=:0 xset dpms force off
[11:26] <_fang> stefg: thx and sorry =D
[11:26] <stefg> _fang: just as a hint... -offtopic will be glad to help
[11:26] <livecduser230912> i dont understand type how i would space it please?
[11:27] <soundray> livecduser230912: I corrected it for you ^^
[11:27] <soundray> livecduser230912: 'sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc2 /media/Sentinel' -- watch the spaces
[11:27] <_fang> stefg: sure, i was not aware of it! sry again =] 
[11:27] <livecduser230912> :[ i just tried it and
[11:28] <livecduser230912> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[11:28] <livecduser230912> Failed to mount '/dev/sdc2': Operation not supported
[11:28] <livecduser230912> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[11:28] <livecduser230912> ?
[11:28] <oxeimo1> how do I sort a list of two integers first by the first column, and then by the second?
[11:29] <neverblue2> trpr, any luck ?
[11:30] <Y3k> for some reason my sound card seem to have become "unrecognized"
[11:30] <oxeimo1> I need to sort a list of 2 integers per line first by the 1st column, and then by the 2nd, any ideas?
[11:31] <WJIRC-Test> that's kind of vague
[11:31] <Veinor> Is there any way to change the theme on Amarok from within gnome? I tried changing it in the amarok options, but there's still some stuff that's the normal white-ish colors
[11:32] <h|barbobot> kcontrol -> styles and themes might do it for you
[11:32] <Kpoxman> hello. after latest update SVN fails to update, saying\svn: Unrecognised URL scheme for 'https://myserver.com/trunk'. how do I know the latest update ID I performed to post a bug on launchpad?
[11:32] <soundray> oxeimo1: sort -nk 1,2
[11:32] <livecduser230912> HELLO?
[11:32] <livecduser230912> :O
[11:32] <livecduser230912> haha
[11:32] <beanage> I think I have the worst possable graffics card for linux ever.
[11:33] <johncub> anyone have any inkling on how to get netscape navigator to run?
[11:33] <danny> danny
[11:33] <oxeimo1> soundray: It doesn't work
[11:33] <johncub> or could point me in the right direction to read about how to get netscape to run?
[11:33] <beanage> netscape, ewww.
[11:33] <soundray> oxeimo1: how are your columns separated?
[11:33] <johncub> I'm not really wanting it but need to test something
[11:33] <trpr> neverblue2: ill see in 2 min if my crontab entry turns off my screen. im just guessing you weren't successful or you wouldn't be asking about it?
[11:33] <oxeimo1> soundray: by spaces
[11:33] <Y3k> question: i run ALSA mixer and it closes as it opens, i can play videos and sound without any errors, but there's just no sound
[11:33] <Y3k> any ideas?
[11:33] <Q_Continuum> Will there be any change(s) necessary to take 7.10 beta -> final, or will it just be a matter of running whatever updates are available? (setting up a testing server, want the latest greatest)
[11:33] <danny> I have a question about screen resolution, can anyone help?
[11:33] <neverblue2> trpr, as I said its complicated, but your almost caught up to where I am :)
[11:34] <oxeimo1> soundray: it puts "41 242" before "41 76" before "41 794"
[11:34] <heguru> !gutsy | Q_Continuum
[11:34] <ubotu> Q_Continuum: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:34] <stefg> !fixres | danny
[11:34] <ubotu> danny: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:34] <soundray> oxeimo1: did you use the n?
[11:34] <oxeimo1> yeah
[11:34] <oxeimo1> sort temp -nk1,2 | less
[11:35] <danny> I want to have a higher resolution but it's stuck at a lower one
[11:35] <heguru> neverblue2: so you need to switch off the monitor without sudo?
[11:35] <z0yd> hi
[11:35] <neverblue2> no hegur, thats not it at all
[11:35] <heguru> neverblue2: or something with sudo will work too?
[11:35] <oxeimo1> soundray: yeah I'm using "sort temp -nk1,2 | less"
[11:35] <soundray> oxeimo1: is there more than one space separating?
[11:36] <oxeimo1> soundray: nope
[11:36] <trpr> neverblue2: ok. my crontab entry works. whats next?
[11:36] <neverblue2> trpr, now xset -q
[11:36] <neverblue2> is DPMS enabled ?
[11:36] <puff> baobab is cool.
[11:36] <heguru> neverblue2: well if its switching off monitor (even other users sessions) if you have sudo, then you can use: sudo vbetool dpms off
[11:36] <oxeimo1> soundray: I created the file by iterating "fprintf(fout, "%d %d\n");"
[11:36] <trpr> neverblue2: yes
[11:36] <neverblue2> trpr, xset -dpms
[11:37] <trpr> xset -dpms
[11:37] <trpr> lol woops
[11:37] <neverblue2> :)
[11:37] <soundray> oxeimo1: try cat temp | sort -n | sort -n k 2 | less
[11:37] <neverblue2> trpr, pm now ?
[11:37] <trpr> off now
[11:37] <johncub> anyone have any inkling on how to get netscape navigator to run?
[11:38] <soundray> oxeimo1: sorry, other way round
[11:38] <neverblue2> pm, as this is where it gets complicated
[11:38] <neverblue2> ?
[11:38] <oxeimo1> soundray: that just sorts it by the second column
[11:38] <moope2> Oct 12 22:32:19 andrew-laptop dhcpd: Can't open lease database /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases: No such file or directory -- check for failed database rewrite attempt!
[11:38] <moope2> Does anyone know what is going on here?
[11:38] <Weaver> Hi, if I'm using wget to download files what is the default directory stuff is saved to? How do I navigate to taht directory?
[11:38] <trpr> sure. btw this is pretty interesting. ;)
[11:38] <kitche> johncub: you type the command in the terminal and it should open up
[11:39] <kitche> johncub: or add it to your menu if you wish
[11:39] <Moez> Hello, i would run the terminal in session start, what is the command to add in the session options ?
[11:39] <livecduser230912> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc2 /media/Sentinel
[11:39] <livecduser230912> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[11:39] <livecduser230912> Failed to mount '/dev/sdc2': Operation not supported
[11:39] <livecduser230912> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[11:39] <livecduser230912> Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by
[11:39] <livecduser230912>           clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
[11:39] <livecduser230912>           taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly.
[11:39] <livecduser230912> Choice 2: If you don't have Windows then you can use the 'force' option for
[11:39] <livecduser230912>           your own responsibility. For example type on the command line:
[11:39] <astro76> Weaver, it should download to the current directory
[11:39] <livecduser230912>             mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc2 /media/Sentinel -o force
[11:40] <livecduser230912>     Or add the option to the relevant row in the /etc/fstab file:
[11:40] <heguru> !pastebin
[11:40] <johncub> kitche, I have the directory navigator but it won't run the file run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute .
[11:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:40] <livecduser230912>             /dev/sdc2 /media/Sentinel ntfs-3g defaults,force 0 0
[11:40] <livecduser230912> ?
[11:40] <soundray> oxeimo1: yeah, sorry
[11:40] <livecduser230912> theres my problem, help plz
[11:40] <kitche> johncub: is the file chmod +x?
[11:40] <beanage> Who was looking for netscape?
[11:40] <Weaver> astro76: Ok, I gotcha. Thanks
[11:40] <ryness> i hope someone can please help... when i ssh to my dapper server the font color is blue on a black background and is horribly hard to read... anyone know how i can change it?
[11:40] <moope2> Oct 12 22:39:06 andrew-laptop dhcpd: Can't create new lease file: Permission denied
[11:40] <moope2> Anyone know how why Im gettingthis error when I try to run dhcp??
[11:40] <johncub> kitche, -rwxr-xr-x 1 john john 10492 2007-10-01 08:35 run-mozilla.sh
[11:41] <soundray> oxeimo1: I'm trying this and it works: (echo 41 242 ; echo 41 794 ; echo 41 76 ; echo 40 1 ; echo 40 2332 ; echo 41 2) | sort -n -k 1,2
[11:41] <kitche> johncub: well it should run you could try sh -x run.mozilla.sh the -x is used for debugging
[11:41] <oxeimo1> soundray:  "cat temp | sort -nk2 | sort -n | less" didn't work, but applying the -s switch to the second sort worked
[11:41] <oxeimo1> thanks :-D
[11:42] <soundray> oxeimo1: sort confuses me if I spend too much time with it
[11:42] <oxeimo1> soundray: hahah yeah me too
[11:42] <oxeimo1> soundray: the stable-sort switch was key
[11:42] <oxeimo1> soundray: thanks :-D
[11:44] <Beto29> hola
[11:44] <Beto29> tengo un problema al iniciar ubuntu
[11:44] <jearsh> uhm, when i "rm -rf" it doesn't clear diskspace...what am i missing?
[11:44] <cookie_> hello
[11:44] <heguru> !es | Beto29
[11:44] <ubotu> Beto29: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:45] <Beto29> sorry
[11:45] <Beto29> bye
[11:45] <cookie_> Is it gonna be a difference between beta 7.10 and the final release
[11:45] <heguru> !gutsy | cookie_
[11:45] <ubotu> cookie_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:46] <cookie_> yeah
[11:46] <cookie_> But I am running now Ubuntu 7.10 Beta
[11:46] <johncub> kitche, well that gave me some details.  I think I'll leave it at that and just spoof my agent.  I think that's going to be easier
[11:46] <cookie_> And I expected more from it
[11:46] <cookie_> Will the final release be the same or it will have some more features
[11:46] <beanage> Anyone know why this command wouldn't work? ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr
[11:47] <kitche> johncub: well nav is based on firefox so it probably will show up as firefox maybe I never used it before to see
[11:47] <beanage> !netscape
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netscape - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <heguru> cookie_: you will get better information about that in #ubuntu+1
[11:47] <beanage> !VIA
[11:47] <johncub> kitche, blue cross blue shield only allows ie and netscape agents so I have to somehow work around that, hence the request to install actual netscape.  firefox is blocked
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <beanage> !OpenChrome
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openchrome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <jearsh> !rm
[11:48] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:48] <J-_> where are the basic icons stored? (synaptic, etc)
[11:48] <cookie_> #ubuntu+1
[11:48] <kitche> johncub: well I m not sure but netscape at least the newer one comes up as Firefox I believe maybe haven't tried to out when they made it based on firefox instead of mozilla suite
[11:49] <chuy_max> what happened with /etc/modules.conf ?
[11:49] <johncub> kitche, thanks for the help anyway, and now I know the sh -x trick.  :)
[11:49] <kbrosnan> kitche: have you tried a user agent switcher?
[11:49] <johncub> kbrosnan, it's me and that's what I'm going to try
[11:49] <cookie_> thanks
[11:49] <chuy_max> I have to load a module before the load of usbhid and hid, if it is not modules.conf who loads modules, who loads them then?
[11:50] <Guildmage> anyone know how to solve the X server problem on ATI?
[11:50] <Guildmage> the thing about the screen
[11:50] <kitche> kbrosnan: not really I do it by hand i mainly use googlebot :)
[11:52] <selinuxium> Tried to run newly installed azureus thi sis what i got...  azureus  exec: 40: java: not found    what gives?
[11:52] <_var> how do I change the font of my term?
[11:52] <moope2> http://rafb.net/p/2j5Ldv89.html does anyone know dhcpd can help me with this little bugger?
[11:52] <beanage> Anyone know why this command wouldn't work? ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr
[11:52] <Juntistiik> hello again everyone :), is the 64 bit version of ubuntu much less stable then 32 bit?
[11:53] <chuy_max> anyone using feisty has a file called /etc/modules ?
[11:53] <soundray> chuy_max: I bet everyone does
[11:53] <jimcooncat> chuy_max: yes
[11:54] <chuy_max> soundray, I don't have that file
[11:54] <chuy_max> and I'm using feisty :(
[11:54] <heguru> chuy_max: you can create a new one
[11:54] <soundray> chuy_max: do a 'echo yourmodule | sudo tee /etc/modules'
[11:54] <Castmich> hello guys, I think i got some nasty problem here, there is a screen here saying: session ends in 10 secs, install problem or full drive etc
[11:55] <jimcooncat> chuy_max: just a list of module names, one per line
[11:55] <soundray> chuy_max: replace "yourmodule" with the name of the module that you're hoping will solve your problems
[11:55] <chuy_max> soundray ah, that was the reason, it is modules, not modules.conf
[11:55] <Zambezi> When adding network, then port in Irssi. Is it 01 adress:port 02 adress/port 03 adress -p port?
[11:55] <soundray> chuy_max: yep, these details matter
[11:55] <_var> why do many configuration files end in tab?
[11:55] <chuy_max> soundray, well, I actually have to load a module before usbhid and hid are loaded
[11:55] <soundray> _var: example?
[11:56] <heguru> chuy_max: though to do what you want to do, you have to create a new file in /etc/modprobe.d with something line install usbhid modprobe --ignore-install usbhid ; modprobe yourdriver; modprobe usbhid
[11:56] <_var> crontab, mtab, fstab...
[11:56] <chuy_max> soundray, using modules file will my module be loaded before both mentioned modules?
[11:56] <Juntistiik> what terminal command can i use to view my video card information?
[11:56] <soundray> _var: for "table"
[11:56] <kulpret> tab = table
[11:56] <_var> ah, that does make sense
[11:56] <soundray> chuy_max: I don't know. Listen to heguru
[11:56] <Chabacano> my nautilus opens automatically, even if I kill it, reset the computer or uninstall+kill+reinlstall it, any clues?
[11:57] <dani> I have a problem. My card is RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro, and after installing the drivers ... there is a performance drop - I should change it back to "vesa" driver in xorg.conf to get a working system. Any idea what is the problem
[11:57] <kbrooks> QUESTION
[11:57] <kbrooks> i dont use my sound card
[11:57] <kbrooks> how can i find the driver loaded wrt the sound card
[11:58] <soundray> kbrooks: 'lsmod | grep snd'
[11:58] <kbrooks> soundray, thx
[11:58] <chuy_max> brb
[11:58] <chuy_max> I will check if it works
[11:59] <alex_ajt> any luck with kde4 in the rc yet anyone?
[11:59] <soundray> alex_ajt: join #ubuntu+1
[11:59] <kbrooks> soundray, the dependencies all seem to point to snd_maestro3 and snd_ac97_codec here. i'll blacklist. thanks!
[12:00] <Psi-Jack> Heya everyone. I tried, just earlier today, getting Ubuntu 7.10 RC running, and I had 2 problems. First try, was with an ATI X1600, and it was painfully sloooow, even with the latest official AMD ATI drivers. Next I tried with an older card, the nVidia 9200, and with nvidia-glx-new, it was pretty decently fast, but text consoles stopped working after X loaded. I tried nVidia's official driver, and it didn't get any better...
[12:01] <PriceChild> !gutsy | Psi-Jack
[12:01] <ubotu> Psi-Jack: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[12:01] <heguru> Psi-Jack: join #ubuntu+1
[12:01] <vmlinuz`> hey
[12:01] <Psi-Jack> Is this a problem just with 7.10, or would I experience the same trouble in 7.04 as well?
[12:01] <Psi-Jack> heguru: Eh?
[12:01] <MasterAslan> I'm pulling my hair out...earlier I attempted an install but it froze at installing hardware.  So I wiped the partitions and went to try again.  The first time I installed on my second HD.  Now I have gone back and the second HD is missing.  I cannot find it in the Gparted with ubuntu.  I also tried the alternate install disk and its not showing up.  I downloaded the stand alone gparted live cd and it does show there.  Any ideas w
[12:01] <freshpressed> has it been decided whether to go with alsa or pulseaudio?
[12:01] <abadtooth> Hey guys, does anyone know if the wubi installer will include Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10?
[12:02] <kbrooks> abadtooth, wubi is unofficial.
[12:02] <erUSUL> !wubi
[12:02] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[12:02] <PriceChild> !gutsy | abadtooth
[12:02] <ubotu> abadtooth: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[12:02] <kbrooks> abadtooth, talk to the wubi developers, not us.
[12:02] <abadtooth> Huh, it says to get support here... lol
[12:02] <kbrooks> PriceChild, that wasnt support for gutsy
[12:03] <PriceChild> kbrooks, pardon? He was asking about gutsy right?
[12:03] <kbrooks> PriceChild, that was support for wubi
[12:03] <kbrooks> PriceChild, no. he was asking if wubi would put in gutsy.
[12:03] <Juntistiik> how can i uninstall automatix?
[12:03] <PriceChild> kbrooks, wubi/gutsy (neither of which supported)
[12:03] <pikeshouse88> yo
[12:03] <heguru> !automatix | Juntistiik
[12:03] <ubotu> Juntistiik: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:03] <kbrooks> PriceChild, and i told him that it was unofficial
[12:03] <dr3w2morow> Im trying to get WoW on my ubuntu but i cant figure out how to?
[12:04] <kbrooks> abadtooth, what says to get support here?
[12:04] <dr3w2morow> Any Help?
[12:04] <erUSUL> !WoW
[12:04] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php