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saeedhi all12:42
saeedanybody knows how to install codeblocks?12:42
saeedanybody here?12:42
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saeedhow about installing compiz-fusion?12:42
saeedI want to install compiz-fusion12:42
Avatar-HeljaraHave you tried adept?12:42
saeedfor compiz-fusion?12:43
saeedor for codeblocks?12:43
Avatar-Heljarafor either12:43
Avatar-Heljarasudo apt-get install codeblocks12:43
saeedbecause I already tried codeblocks, but there's nothing there12:43
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saeedcodeblocks is not there12:43
saeeddo I install compiz or compiz-fusion12:44
saeedI searched in adept12:44
saeedI found only compiz12:45
saeedno compiz-fusion12:45
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:45
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tyrant91101does anyone know what i should do when i get the error " /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" followed by repeating " ata1.01: exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen"12:51
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ubotuIf you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError12:52
tyrant91101ok thank you12:52
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Silveira_NetoHi guys, anyone here knows how to play lbreakout in multiplayer mode? I have two machines with Linux here, and lbreakout2 installed, but none can connect in a game with the other12:59
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bazhanghi saeed01:03
saeedanybody knows how to access a windows partition?01:03
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bazhangsaeed:  you need something called ntfs-g01:04
saeedI just installed kubuntu01:04
saeedit shows my ntfs partition01:04
saeedbut I can't access it01:04
tyrant91101hmm the TTY error page didnt help, i tried all of the recommended solutions, none helped01:05
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:05
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tyrant91101does it change anything if i sometimes get "Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0"01:05
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iSir_Joshmusim on xubuntu, is it possible to lock the screen?01:06
iSir_Joshmuscause im looking and i dont see the command01:06
iSir_Joshmussay you wanted to enter a command in the terminal01:06
iSir_Joshmusto lock screen, what would it be?01:07
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saeedwhat is ntfs-g?01:11
saeedand how do i get it?01:11
bazhangntfs-config - Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices01:11
saeedwhere do i get it?01:12
bazhangsaeed: you can install it through either Adept (the gui package manager) or the commande line.01:12
bazhangcommand line01:13
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saeedI found a package01:14
saeedusing adept01:14
fdovingsaeed: xscreensaver -lock maybe?01:14
saeedwhen I searched for ntfs-g01:14
fdovingsaeed: err, wrong nick sorry.01:14
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saeedbazhang: is that the package?01:15
bazhangsaeed: that is for Ubuntu, I believe;01:15
saeedhow about kubuntu?01:15
saeedwhat package should I install?01:15
fdovingisir_joshmus: 'xscreensaver-command -lock' maybe?01:16
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions01:16
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saeedhi again01:24
saeedI just installeg ntfs-3g01:24
saeedbut when I try to run it, nothing happens01:24
saeedanyone knows what's happening?01:24
bazhangsaeed: you also need to install the ntfs-config package01:25
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saeedI already installed it01:26
bazhangdid you check each partition you want to access and click 'Apply'?01:27
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saeedI didn't get anything when I tried to start ntfs-config01:27
saeedthe application doesn't even start01:28
bazhanghow did you start it?01:28
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saeedkde menu -> system -> NTFS config tool01:29
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bazhangsaeed: that's odd. It should launch.01:30
saeedhow do I play flash apps in firefox?01:30
bazhanghi wohnzimmer01:30
saeedI am trying to watch some youtube stuff01:30
saeedbut I can't01:30
wohnzimmerhi bazhang01:31
bazhangsaeed: you need to install kde-restricted-extra01:31
wohnzimmeri cant  get no sleep01:31
saeedhow so?01:31
bazhangdo you have a question wohnzimmer?01:31
bazhangsaeed: take a look if it's there.01:32
wohnzimmerdo you know something about grub01:32
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bazhangwohnzimmer: a little, I'll do my best. :}01:32
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pope22i'm trying to learn how to upgrade to kde 4, is anyone able to help me?01:33
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ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php01:33
wohnzimmeri have grub error when i start my system with  2 hardisk ,one is an usb one fix ,i get an error 2101:34
wohnzimmerwhen  i press the power button01:34
melchoralguien en espaol???01:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:34
pope22right....yes, i've read that post about kde 4. That's why i'm asking, i'm new to linux don't particulartly understand the instructions01:34
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bazhangpope22: KDE4 has loads of potential, but that's it for now--I tried one of the KDE4 liveCDs (Suse), and nothing to see (for now).01:35
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helloyoif i want to use flash and java should i install the 32bit version?01:36
saeedhi again01:36
bazhangwohnzimmer: error 21 means that the disk you're trying to access is not recognized as a valid disk01:36
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bazhanghelloyo: not sure about that..01:37
helloyobazhang: ah ok, well for the RC i'll just get 32bit and save some hassles01:37
wohnzimmerok but when i reboot the system load grub stage 1.5 , fine01:37
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bazhanghelloyo: probably a good choice for now.01:38
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saeedis there another way to access ntfs partitions?01:38
saeedIt's obvious that the ntfs-3g is NOT working01:39
saeedI installed everything twice01:39
saeedbut it doesn't work01:39
bazhangsaeed: that's the way I know of; again, I don't have a windows partition so I'm not the biggest help there.01:39
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saeedthanks for trying01:39
wohnzimmerbazhang : i tried grub superdisk to chnage the masterboot record but nothing happend01:39
radiusntfs-fuse should work01:39
bazhangwohnzimmer: getting Vista/XP recognized in GRUB?01:40
wohnzimmerbazhang :yes everything works when i reboot01:40
shindawas wondering if anyone was familiar with eclipse, I get some strange behaviour when minimizing side panels such as project outline where the panel although minimzed continues to take up horizontal space01:40
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wohnzimmerbazhang :i have winxp on the disk inside the notebook and on the usb drive ubuntu01:42
bazhangwohnzimmer: which did you install first?01:42
wohnzimmerthe win xp01:42
bazhangwohnzimmer: does the BIOS look for the internal or the external drive first?01:43
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bazhangwohnzimmer: I had the same trouble with Vista until I reset the BIOS01:45
wohnzimmerfor the internal ,  i changed zu external but  i doesnt work01:45
NixManjust wondering..the "audio" tab in kcontrol, where you can select mp3 ripping, what does that effect? i set it to like 192kbps, and i tried ripping with k3b, and it wasn't that. any helps?01:45
wohnzimmero.k i open this book and reset the bios01:46
wohnzimmerbazhang :thanx01:46
bazhangwohnzimmer: I can PM you a url that lays out how to do it if you wish..01:46
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wohnzimmerwhat does pm mean ????#01:47
bazhangPrivate Message01:48
wohnzimmersorry , im noob01:48
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bazhangdon't want to flood the channel--I click on your name, and then privately give you the website that tells how to do it01:49
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voidusfirefox seem to ignore my look & feel settings01:50
voidusis it common problem?01:50
wohnzimmermy english is too bad so for me its hard to follow quick01:50
bazhangok if I PM you?01:51
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:51
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NixManjust wondering..the "audio" tab in kcontrol, where you can select mp3 ripping, what does that effect? i set it to like 192kbps, and i tried ripping with k3b, and it wasn't that. any helps?01:52
bazhangwohnzimmer: have Private Messaged you the url, look for the channel with your name (or mine?) on it.01:53
bazhangprobably mine.01:53
pope22is plasma integrated into kde 4? i'm worried it may eat up  my cpu...01:53
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D_Edpope22: yes it is. and why do you think it will do that?01:56
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bazhanghi geekgirl01:59
geekgirlhi bazhang01:59
geekgirli'm new here02:00
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bazhanggeekgirl: do you have a question?02:00
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:02
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franz__[kopete]  how can i enable my sounds? I tried the 'play' button in Settings > Configure Notifications but i don't hear a thing...any ideas?02:19
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:28
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franz__voidus, thanks..but my sound is working perfectly...it's just that kopete won't play any. and after googling for awhile, i can see a lot of people having the same issue...and no one really knows how to fix this...that's why im trying my luck here :)02:31
franz__i googled for "sound kopete" ( without the quotes....and mostly, i see bug reports and complaints :) )02:32
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voidusfranz__: do you use firefox? and if so, do firefox respect your font settings?02:34
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franz__voidus, i do...as for the font settings...never really tried changing them...let me check02:34
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franz__voidus, i tried changing my fonts from the System Settings but firefox seems to be immune to it :)02:37
dbgltare there any known kubuntu-gusty related updated problems I should look out for?02:37
voidusdbglt: /join #ubuntu+102:37
dbgltvoidus: I'm there. But that's not for kubuntu02:38
dbgltvoidus: I assume the knowledge here will be greater02:38
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bazhangdbglt: sure it is! :}02:38
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lontrafranz__: it's cause firefox is GTK ... you need to changet that font02:40
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quixogreevening all03:06
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CapitalTHi, I'm not sure if this is a bug or not; but having a terminal between sessions is annoying (ctrl+alt+F7=session1, ctrl+alt+F8=terminal, ctrl+alt+F9=session2)03:10
CapitalTshould I report this?03:10
CapitalTespecially since the terminal is just the output of the bootup sequence03:10
crimsunit's intentional03:11
CapitalTbut, the terminal is useless. I don't see any valuable debug information there. Did I miss something?03:12
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franz_voidus: i've now 'fixed' my kopete sounds. i just configured kopete to use mplayer to play a file for the notification03:14
DaSkreechI have a disagreement between the superblock and the backup03:14
DaSkreechhow could I check which is valid?03:14
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quixogreanyone familiar with CUPS?03:22
lukas__what is CUPS? , I am new in linux03:22
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quixogretrying to add a networked printer, and its not working...the printer flashes, but noting prints out03:23
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows03:23
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lukas__good to know03:26
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DaSkreech!inf otestdisk03:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inf otestdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:30
DaSkreech!info testdisk03:30
ubotutestdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB03:30
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dick-richardsonI have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card and no sound...drivers look right. what can I check?03:31
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:31
dick-richardsonsound system is enabled, I get sliders to move in the mixer...but no sound03:34
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canenanyone having trouble with flash + konqueror?03:35
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phoenixzanybody here who could help with setting up a vpn?? Im using kvpnc but I get the error "only freeswan version 1.x is supported "03:36
phoenixzthis error means tat kvpnc only supports openswan1.x or the server??03:36
DaSkreechcanen: Which flash are you using?03:37
canenDaSkreech: i just noticed the channel message and since i'm running gutsy i'm going over to #ubuntu+103:38
canennon-free by the way03:38
DaSkreechcanen: No I meant which version03:38
DaSkreechThe new flash plugins freeze konqueror unless you update it03:38
canen9 i think , let me check03:38
DaSkreechBut good call #ubuntu+103:38
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canenbut it has never worked for me, regardless of the version03:40
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dick-richardsonok, so I'm really not interesting is pissing with this sound card. any good suggestions for an external that works out of the box?03:40
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DaSkreechcanen: Yeah hit up #ubuntu+103:41
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canenDaSkreech: thanks03:42
quixogrehow many here are on gutsy? im noticing i got lots of updates available, but assuming thats a patch for gutsy yes?03:42
quixogreim afraid to switch to gutsy because of all the problems i saw before it left beta03:42
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quixogrebtw. fixed my printer problem...switched to a different driver, and it works like a dream now03:43
canenquixogre: unless you do an explicit update gutsy will not be install03:44
quixogrecanen good ta know. thanks03:44
canenif your sources still point to fiesty the updates are fiesty03:44
dick-richardsonno suggestions on an external sound card?03:44
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mrksbrdgenii u here?03:49
level1I can't figure out if radeon or ati are different drivers... whats the deal there?03:49
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mrksbrdradeon & ati are the same thing03:50
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level1mrksbrd: are you sure?  someone in winehq said otherwise03:50
mrksbrdati is the board manufacturer, radeon is the model....just like a "ford taurus"03:51
level1mrksbrd: okay, I find this really annoying03:51
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geniiSorry for lag, assisting in #ubuntu03:51
level1mrksbrd: I'm referring to ati "the driver" and radeon "the driver"03:51
mrksbrdgenii need your help bro03:52
level1I don't understand why they named them after the companies03:52
geniimrksbrd: Well, state the problem and I'll assist if I know how :) Someone else may know too03:52
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mrksbrdremember the usbhdd drive issue u helped me with b4....having the same prob again....drive won't mount03:53
mrksbrdlooked the the fstab that looks goo but getting an error, std cant mount drive03:53
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DaSkreechquixogre: Then dont03:54
DaSkreechmrksbrd: unless you mean the driver03:54
DaSkreechmrksbrd: those are different03:55
geniimrksbrd: Ah, I remember a bit now about that. Tho the details escape me. Did you eventually use UUID in the fstab instead of something like /dev/sdb2  or so? the usb storage gets reassigned depending on what gets plugged in first, so sdb may be sdc another time, yet the UUID will always be the same03:55
mrksbrdfdisk -l stated /dev/sdb103:56
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:56
geniimrksbrd: OK. Please pastebin your fstab and I will take a look. But be warned I am getting exhausted today and not at top of my game03:57
genii(18 hour day)03:57
mrksbrdok, give me a sec03:58
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geniiOK reading. pls excuse lag04:02
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mrksbrdwant the error I get as well?04:02
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geniimrksbrd: No need :)04:03
geniiDaSkreech: I'll likely need it later when the coffee wears off :)04:03
DaSkreechuerk coffee04:04
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geniimrksbrd: We need to make an entry in the same way you see the UUID entry for / as an example. But for sdb1 in this case. But at the moment it may not actually be named sdb1 anymore04:04
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geniimrksbrd: Thanks :) <takes a sip>04:05
mrksbrdhow do i figure that out04:05
geniimrksbrd: So we have to: discover which actual /dev it is if not sdb1 anymore       then: get the uuid by issuing: blkid      then: put the proper UUID in the fstab04:05
geniimrksbrd: Do you know what size it is supposed to be?04:06
mrksbrddev/sdb1: UUID="55D123D9E79ABF54" TYPE="ntfs"04:06
mrksbrdthe drive?04:07
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geniimrksbrd: OK. I will make a new fstab for you. 1 minute please04:07
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hellhoundhas anyone ever tried following the steps in Synce Wiki to sync a PDA?04:09
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geniimrksbrd: Hmm. Did you have ntfs-3g installed? I forget. Someone recently only needed top read not write ntfs04:10
hellhoundI am having trouble with the synce-gnome and running python test.py04:10
mrksbrdi believe it is, is there a way to twll?04:10
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myohi all just installed KDE desktop and having problems installing themes.  I was following the directions here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDM+Theme+Manager?content=22120 to install the theme manager but when I run ./configure  I see checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!04:11
myoFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.04:11
myo.  I am a relative linux noob here so the more specific the better04:11
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geniimrksbrd: Offhand i forget. but it looks like somehow the options for that drive went to "auto" and some sort of defaults instead of ntfs or similar. I will assume no ntfs-3g for now04:11
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geniimrksbrd: Bah. Having probs with pastebin. so, comment out line for sdb1, then below add this line: UUID=55D123D9E79ABF54 /media/usbhddntfsdefaults,user,auto0 004:13
hellhoundhow do I turn off the firewall in kubuntu?04:13
geniiWhoa wait04:13
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geniiWeird. Spaces got lost in copy/paste04:14
geniiAh, tabs rather..1 minute04:14
geniiUUID=55D123D9E79ABF54 /media/usbhdd ntfs defaults,user,auto 0 004:14
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy04:15
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mrksbrdenii tels me i'm "not privledged to mount this drive"04:17
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geniimrksbrd: Ah, OK. But is seeing it now, yes?04:18
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hellhoundubotu: so i need to install guarddog to disable the firewall?04:18
mrksbrdnope no icon either04:18
mrksbrdwant me to repaste04:19
geniimrksbrd: What I meant is that to get the "not priveledged to mount" error, it must be seeing that the drive exists and is trying to do something (however unsuccessfully)04:19
geniimrksbrd: OK. We will see if ntfs-3g is around. try to run: sudo ntfs-config       at commandline04:20
mrksbrd:command not found04:21
geniiOK not installed04:21
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geniimrksbrd: Change user to plural,  users    but otherwise all the same, and try again with what we have there04:21
mrksbrdis there a file out there that isn't tar'd....I hate those things04:21
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mrksbrdboth lines or just the uuid line?04:22
geniijust the uuid line. the other one should be commented out with a #04:23
genii(the old sdb1 line)04:23
mrksbrdright ok04:23
mrksbrdsame error04:24
geniiOK, time to go the ntfs-3g way I guess. I don't know all the little ntfs mounting switches/options so this is easiest04:24
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flakefor some reason, xmms isn't controlling my audio volume, having to do it from the speaker on my desk04:26
geniimrksbrd: install packages: ntfs-3g ntfs-config ntfsprogs          after this, run the program ntfs-config   as before, with sudo04:26
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geniimrksbrd: After this I must leave and sleep :)04:28
mrksbrdok no prob04:28
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geniimrksbrd: Oh...before running ntfs-config   comment out the UUID line as well04:29
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mrksbrdok installed04:29
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geniiI will stay long enough to at least see the results, good or bad04:30
mrksbrdrun config now?04:30
geniimrksbrd: yes.    sudo ntfs-config04:30
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mrksbrdok done04:30
geniimrksbrd: Did it say anything informative?04:31
mrksbrdjust an opton to check off to write to external drives04:31
geniiOK. See if it made some fstab entry please04:31
geniimrksbrd: If not, we will uncomment and modify the UUID line once more04:32
ubuntuhoz ;uch spqce i need to instqll linux04:32
geniiubuntu: 4Gb or more is good. and a decent swap space of perhaps the size of your RAM04:33
ubuntu__Lilitha from kubunto reporting04:33
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genii!hi | ubuntu__04:34
ubotuubuntu__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:34
flakeok, i guess xmms is an older program04:35
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mrksbrdok it said alot.....04:35
underdog5004flake, xmms is the best music player ever, imho04:35
flakecan't control volume04:36
mrksbrdthe temp fstab is longer than the overwritten one though04:36
flakevlc doesth04:36
underdog5004flake, yeah, you can...there's a volume bar available04:36
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underdog5004genii, how long have you been awake?04:36
flakeit doesn't do anything to my volume underdog, have to adjust speaker volume manually, on desk04:36
underdog5004flake, bummer04:37
geniiunderdog5004: Something like 20 hours04:37
ubuntugenii: i just install xp and saprat my 160 in 3 now i; going to install linux but it only see 1 hdd not the 304:37
flakei have onboard audio + pci audio card, think that's why04:37
underdog5004genii, I haven't slept longer than 30 minutes in the last 30 hours...I feel fine04:37
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mrksbrdi'll let you go genni we'll just work on it some other time....i know how it is to be up for 18+hrs04:37
myocan anyone tell me what I need to install for this error: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!04:37
geniiunderdog5004: Maybe I'll start that sleep rotation thingy but not this week :)04:37
underdog5004polyphasic sleep for the win!04:37
underdog5004ha ha04:37
flakewaitin for gutsy stable is almost as bad as waitin for qw:et04:38
underdog5004lemme find that site...04:38
flakelike xmas04:38
geniimrksbrd: OK thanks. I'll be on tomorrow if yer around04:38
mrksbrdok about this time??04:38
geniiYes, if not 6 hours or so earlier. Tho i will be watching hockey as well04:38
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geniiunderdog5004: Bookmarked04:39
underdog5004might be useful, esp if you can take 30 minutes whenever you want...04:39
geniiBye all. thanks for pillow DaSkreech04:39
mrksbrdi'll just pmsg u and respond when your ready04:39
ubuntugenii: i just install xp and sepqrat my 160 in 3 now i; going to install linux but it only see 1 hdd not the 304:39
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ubuntugenii: why/04:40
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DaSkreechubuntu: can You explain what you are seeing?04:40
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ubuntuDaSkreech: im on prepare disk space.04:42
DaSkreechwhy do you say it only sees one drive04:42
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myocan anyone tell me how to install qt?   I have tried sudo apt-get install  with qt qt3 libqt and libqt304:42
ubuntuDaSkreech: i see only 1 partation to instaal linux alldo i ;ade 3 parts zhen i install xp04:43
DaSkreechubuntu: so in  XP you had three drives?04:43
DaSkreechor three partitions rather ?04:43
ubuntuthis language keyboard is killing me04:43
DaSkreechChange it to something you know04:44
DaSkreechWhat language do you want?04:44
ubuntuDaSkreech: its a 160 sepqrate in 304:44
ubuntuDaSkreech: i did change it but it stay the same04:44
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DaSkreechok The installer sees only one 160 GB drive?04:47
DaSkreechwith no partitions?04:47
DaSkreechHow much space is free?04:47
ubuntuthe partition are for;ated in ntfs nor;aly04:47
DaSkreechThe installer can resize NTFS partitions safely04:48
ubuntuDaSkreech: resize,but witch side it will take it from04:49
ubuntumy xp04:49
DaSkreechThe end part04:50
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ubuntuwa option do i hqve to choose04:51
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ubuntuDaSkreech: thers a thing that move left right to choose size04:52
DaSkreechubuntu: Right choose what size you want it to be04:52
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ubuntuDaSkreech: if i choose 10percent it will not erace my  xp04:53
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ubuntuotakuuu powaaaa04:55
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ubuntuDaSkreech: muchi muchi u there04:55
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nosrednaekimlol... ubuntu+1 has almost as many people as this channel :)04:56
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DaSkreechubuntu: how much space do you have free?04:57
neofaxHello everyone!04:58
ubuntuDaSkreech: dont no its a 160 i just finish installing xp noz im trying to install linux on the sa;e hdd04:58
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neofaxIs anyone here using a ICE1724 card with SPDIF out?04:58
neofaxI cannot get it to work.04:59
ubuntuDaSkreech: im going fazord04:59
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DaSkreechubuntu: How long ago did you install XP?05:01
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ubuntuDaSkreech: when i pres next it crash and 3 windoz show up which is the 3 hdd i made05:02
DaSkreechubuntu: The installer cashes?05:02
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DaSkreechubuntu: Is this the 7.04 or 7.10 installer?05:03
ubuntuDaSkreech: not exactly it just aborted the the 3 hdd put up like zindows05:03
ubuntuis the 7.10 out yet05:04
ubuntui; 7.0405:04
DaSkreechWell at least you know you have your partitions :-)05:04
medivhWould anyone mind helping me with a probably noobish question about the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg dialogue?05:04
DaSkreechmedivh: shoot05:04
DaSkreechubuntu: can you open konsole and type mount05:04
DaSkreechcopy the output to pastebin for me05:05
DaSkreech!paste | ubuntu05:05
ubotuubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:05
medivhDaSkreech, Hi, thanks. I've been able to go through it just fine up until it asked me for my "Video Card Bus Identifier"05:05
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ubuntuDaSkreech: yeah but zhen linuh have to choose here to install it only see 105:05
ubuntunot 305:05
DaSkreechmedivh: The defaults are usually good05:05
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medivhDarkSkreechI googled, and found I can find the bus with lspci, but...there are many different nVidia entries.05:05
ubuntuah  now it just crach on me05:06
medivhDaSkreech* excuse me.05:06
DaSkreechbetter pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l05:06
DaSkreechmedivh: sure05:06
medivhDaSkreech, well the default is PCI:1:0:0 is that, ok?05:06
DaSkreechmedivh: yes05:06
medivhDaSkreech, alright, thank you :) Would you mind if I bothered you again if I encountered anything else I didn't quite understand?05:07
n8k99medivh: DaSkreech lives for that stuff!05:08
ubuntuDaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m2156649005:09
DaSkreechmedivh: Sure05:09
DaSkreechmedivh: I guess you are changing your resolution?05:10
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medivhDaSkreech, you're quite correct. I recently got a widescreen monitor and this seemed the easiest way? Perhaps I was wrong :S05:10
DaSkreechmedivh: No in that case you can ignore everything till you get to the resolution section05:11
DaSkreechIf that's the only thing you are going to change everything else should be correct already05:11
medivhDaSkreech, ah, here's a question is there any way to go back? :P I think I might have just accidentally moved past the resolution selection, which is exactly what I wanted >.<05:11
DaSkreechubuntu: You have them all formatted already05:11
ubuntuDaSkreech: yes05:12
DaSkreechmedivh: hold down enter till you reach the end? :-)05:12
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DaSkreechubuntu: WEll /dev/sda6 seems to have well enough space for your install needs05:13
medivhDaSkreech, I figured as much hehe, I'll just redo it and you say I can just skip everything until I get to the monitor resolutions if that's what I need?05:13
ubuntuDaSkreech: i know i have enoght it just that it only seing my hdd like it was never separated05:14
DaSkreechmedivh: yes if everything else already works no need to worry about it05:15
Smurf-SlayerAnyone know if there is a fix yet for when this works fine, but FireFox doesn't work?  Also, now my Adept Pkg Mgr doesn't work, or GAIM.  Had a power failure today, and the UPS couldn't hold it all long enough?  Could that be causing this problem?  Firefox and everything worked fine last night.05:15
ubuntuSmurf-Slayer: where they installing when u get the power out05:16
DaSkreechubuntu: ok let me know when you get there and I'll see if I can help you out05:17
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medivhDaSkreech, so I'm at the list of monitor resulotions, how would one add an asterisk next to a resolution for use?05:17
ubuntuDaSkreech: for the longest of hile its scanning to detect every hdd it4s being 6mins now05:18
DaSkreechmedivh: space05:18
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DaSkreechubuntu: Erk that doesn't sound right at all05:18
ubuntuDaSkreech: cancel05:19
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DaSkreechubuntu: When did you burn this CD?05:20
gryphonwhich is better kubuntu, ubuntu, or fedora?05:20
DaSkreechubuntu: can you do a CD test on it05:20
DaSkreechIt's on the boot menu05:20
DaSkreechgryphon: the one you like best05:21
medivhgryphon, as my understanding goes, Kubuntu and Ubuntu are personal preference, as it's just Gnome and KDE05:21
medivhFedora I have never used, so I can't help you on that one :(05:21
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Smurf-SlayerUbuntu - No, this installation is a couple of months old...05:22
medivhDaSkreech, Ah thanks a lot. So would I need to restart the computer for all of this to take effect? For the life of me I can't rememeber the key combination that is used to...restart the x server I believe? or...Do you know what I'm talking about? lol05:22
DaSkreechmedivh: restart? never speak such blasphemy!05:22
ubuntui buy it in a magazine it allredy install it on my pc now im install it on a ftriend own but he only got 1 hdd so im afraind to kill the xp part then ill have to start all over again05:22
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DaSkreechmedivh: If you want a dirty restart it's Alt+Ctrl+BkSPc a clean restart just involves logging out and back in05:23
DaSkreechubuntu: You have it partitioned already. Why did you make the two partitions that big? :)05:23
medivhDaSkreech, Ah, well I prefer cleanliness so I'll take the logging route, pardon me for a few seconds ;)05:23
medivhI just want to install all my updates first :)05:24
DaSkreechmedivh: Dirty just means things don't have an option to let you save. So you lose any unsaved data05:24
DaSkreechmedivh: it doesn't hurt anything05:24
DaSkreechmedivh: Go right ahead :)05:24
Smurf-SlayerUbuntu - No, this installation is a couple of months old...05:25
ubuntuDaSkreech: the bigest 1 if for data storage in cast xp have to reinstall the smaller 1 zas for 7.0405:25
medivhDaSkreech, ah ok hehe well thanks for that, I had no idea there was a difference, I though the key combination actually just logged you out regularly and did something...else hehe.05:25
DaSkreechubuntu: Linux generally uses two partitions so you will cut that one again05:25
ubuntuDaSkreech: i know05:26
DaSkreechubuntu: but you should be ok05:26
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ubuntuDaSkreech: i allready install it on my pc05:26
DaSkreechmedivh: Nope it's the Xserver equivalnet of hitting the power button. Things don't get much chance to respond and interrupt but they will all be shut down ok05:26
NightBirdwhen playing with the live cd, how can I try to see how well kubuntu detects the hard drives?05:26
DaSkreechNightBird: System settings -> advanced -> disk and filesystmes05:27
ubuntummm fast05:27
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medivhIf I may offer up to anyone who's paying attention, I'm looking for some opinions on a browser, (I just reformatted, and as such this is new Kubuntu [yay \o/]  and I tend to change things up and try new software) I am rather torn between Firefox and Opera, anyone use either, or both, or...Neither?05:30
DaSkreechfirefox -> Awesome extensions and experience, Most bloated bit of code to render websites in a long while05:31
DaSkreechopera -> nice lean mean, very funky and does things it's own way, not free software05:32
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medivhIt's not free? I'd used both of them and was under the impression Opera didn't cost anything, or...I got lucky?05:33
Smurf-SlayerAnyone know if there is a fix yet for when this works fine, but FireFox doesn't work?  Also, now my Adept Pkg Mgr doesn't work, or GAIM.  Had a power failure today, and the UPS couldn't hold it all long enough?  Could that be causing this problem?  Firefox and everything worked fine last night.05:33
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DaSkreechmedivh: not free as in beer05:34
DaSkreechSmurf-Slayer: run firefox from the command line05:35
DaSkreechFirefox &05:35
DaSkreechsmall f05:35
DaSkreechJust to test05:35
medivhDaSkreech, Ah I see what you mean now hehe05:36
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lee__waht the05:38
Smurf-SlayerDaSkreech - It starts, but won't load any page, the same...05:39
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DaSkreechSmurf-Slayer: Hmm05:39
DaSkreechrun a fsck I guess05:39
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medivhDaSkreech, oh, I just noticed something quite...Amazing. I can fully access my Windows hard drive (I have two internal hard drives, a Windows IDE and a Linux SATA) is it actually possible to run things, on linux, from that drive? With something like Wine of course?05:42
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Smurf-SlayerIt won't let me, says it may cause severe file damage05:44
DaSkreechSmurf-Slayer: Oh my do you have a live CD?05:45
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DaSkreechmedivh: in theory yes05:45
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:45
j1solutionshey does anyone know when 7.10 will be released as Kubuntu?05:46
DaSkreech7 days05:46
j1solutionsso its a day later than Ubunut?05:46
j1solutionsor the same day05:46
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j1solutionsif i install 7.10 RC1 today, can I 'upgrade' when 7.10 is released?05:49
j1solutionsor might that be a bad idea05:49
benny_j1solutions: I second that question...05:50
Bootmancan someone help me to find where logs file are: when I tryed to lunch Allegro (Cadence) in Kubuntu, system answers "core dumped"...05:50
BootmanI just want to fugure out,what is wrong..05:51
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BootmanBoys, aren't here any profy of Kubuntu over here? Yes, Cadence it is EDA program05:52
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DaSkreechsame day05:52
benny_for silicon?05:52
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DaSkreechj1solutions: You can upgrade05:53
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Bootmanfor PCB design05:53
benny_Bootman: I didn't know Cadence ran on linux..05:53
DaSkreechBootman: /var/log05:53
benny_Bootman: we use AIX>05:53
BootmanI am still not sure myself05:53
DaSkreechBootman: If it's a good linux program :)05:53
Bootmanbut It work in Mandriva05:53
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DaSkreechBootman: other wise it might put it in a hidden folder in your home directory05:54
benny_DaSkreech: evedently hasn't used Cadence..05:54
Bootmanbut I like Kubuntu, and would like to install it, anyway05:54
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DaSkreechOtherwise it will be in the same folder as the app05:54
DaSkreech never even heard of it05:54
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j1solutionsthanks DaSkreech05:54
benny_it's a pile of crap, but it's what we all have to use.05:54
Bootmanok, thanks for advising.. will try05:55
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benny_DaSkreech: good to see you again.. although this thingy isn't nearly as fun sober.05:55
DaSkreechbenny_: All good things aren't05:56
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dick-richardsonturtle beach santa cruz...anyone got one working?05:56
j1solutionsi cant imagine why anyone would choose gnome over kde05:56
DaSkreechdick-richardson: did you run through !sound ?05:56
dick-richardsongreat tips...still nothing05:57
DaSkreechj1solutions: Many people can't imagine why someone would choose windows over linux but there you go05:57
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport05:57
DaSkreechDon't know if that will shed some light05:57
dick-richardsonif it doesn't, maybe it can at least point me toward a good sound card that works well05:57
dick-richardsonthank you :)05:58
j1solutionsanyone here work with asterisk?05:58
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DaSkreechthere you go :)05:59
benny_very funny05:59
j1solutionsno, thats his name  Aster Isk05:59
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DaSkreechNo only obeli sk06:00
j1solutionsgood one DaSkreech06:00
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DaSkreechand 6 people got it :)06:00
j1solutionsI've got an S Colon and a Q Mark in my addressbook06:01
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benny_wish I actually kept an addressbook.06:01
DaSkreechE point06:02
j1solutionsD Leet06:02
j1solutionsbenny, you only need one if you have friends06:02
benny_ouch.. harsh dude..06:02
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benny_you'll get that way spending too much time Cadence.06:03
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j1solutions<---runs and LDAP server with 3 entries, Mom, Boss and Landlord06:05
benny_good 'ol mom.06:06
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q_a_z_stevetrying to mount VISTA in dapper. I get error: device /dev/hdb5 is not removable error: could not execute pmount... help?06:06
j1solutionsyep.  wouldn't want to lose her number06:06
benny_my mom tattooed it on my ass.06:07
j1solutionswow, what if she changes phone companies?06:07
benny_doesn't vista still use ntfs?06:07
q_a_z_steveshows as HPFS/NTFS06:07
j1solutionsfiesty mounted my vista ntfs partitions ok (read only)06:08
benny_I haven't been brave enough to dual boot my vista machine yet.. how'd it go? besides the mount problem..06:08
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j1solutionsbenny, how you like vista?06:10
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benny_eh.. to be honest if you want flash-bang bells and wistles compiz-fusion and os/x top it..  but gotta have it for stupid programs that don't play nice on linux.06:12
DaSkreechtoo bad we don't have stupid programs on linux06:12
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benny_and for the wify..  she refuses to use linux.06:12
j1solutionsyeah, i tolerate XP, but I've tried to run Vista for 6 months now,  nfw-  i'm wiping it and doing a fresh install of kubuntu 7.1006:13
q_a_z_stevebenny_: triple boot, XP Vista, and dapper06:13
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j1solutionsnice benny06:13
benny_I've heard if you're a gamer you should keep XP...06:14
j1solutionsvista runs slow as shit, thats probably why06:14
q_a_z_steveXP is probably the best M$ ever did06:14
j1solutionsagreed steve06:14
j1solutionsi'd trade my vista licence for xp if i could06:14
stdinkeep on topic :)06:14
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.06:15
benny_you mean after SP2.. cause it was like walking around with your pants around you ankles for a while there.06:15
j1solutionsyes, after sp206:15
j1solutionsbut i'm going all linux, except my laptop06:15
j1solutionsonly because i ve got some automotive scanner software i need to run on it06:16
benny_ohhh man. that was one of my worst linux installs ever.. on my laptop about 3 years ago..06:16
benny_probably better now tho.06:16
j1solutionsi had about 4 distros on this laptop in the last few months before i wnet back to xp06:16
benny_but I've never tried again after that.06:16
j1solutionsall worked well, wireless and all.   you can do it now, believe me06:17
j1solutionsits a lot easier06:17
j1solutionsprobably a lot to do with the hardware. this is a thinkpad and it was easy06:19
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jesus_hay alguien alli?06:20
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j1solutionsbenny, have you heard about the new offshoot of ubuntu?06:25
j1solutionsit runs on a sneaker06:25
j1solutionsits called shubuntu06:25
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j1solutionsok i'm leaving. sorry06:26
j1solutionsthanks for everyones help06:26
MedivhDaSkreech, are you still hre?06:27
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DaSkreechMedivh: No06:27
MedivhDaSkreech, ah :P Hello again :) Something...unexpected has happened.06:27
DaSkreech!es | jesus_06:27
ubotujesus_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:27
DaSkreechMedivh: India has changed it's name to OutNoches?06:28
MedivhDaSkreech *lol* Not quite as drastic as that.06:28
DaSkreechCanada has a stronger currency than the US?06:29
MedivhDaSkreech, but...upon the completion of my updates, I was simply modifying the settings to my personal flavour (My screensaver to be exact.) and...Well...This is where there would be cartoonish "Ka Boom" sounds. Black screen, and all I was left with was a white terminal cursor, blinking, endlessly.06:30
MedivhTo which there was no escape from, than to hit my reboot button.06:30
MedivhI'm using the CD as a LiveCD at the moment, as my installtion is apparently...Unusable?06:30
DaSkreechMedivh: you can't login?06:31
MedivhHave you ever heard of such a thing...Or...Should I just wipe the partitions and start over? I did just install it literally minutues before I came onto this channel.06:31
DaSkreechMedivh: Naw it can probably be fixed. But you can't login?06:32
MedivhDaSkreech, nothing, simple blinking white cursor, I tried login I tried shutdown I tried every command I could think of, even things that would not help the situation just to see if I could. It just returned to the next line.06:32
MedivhNot as far as I can tell :S06:32
DaSkreechMedivh: Hold up when you start you get past the grub menu and then it's just a cursor ?06:32
MedivhI can access the recovery console via the boot menu, but...I have absolutely no idea what is wrong.06:32
DaSkreechMedivh: can you mount the drive ?06:32
MedivhYep :S Kubuntu does it's little start up splash screen, where the little bar fills, I'm sure you kno what I'm talking about...and then little cursor.06:33
DaSkreechMedivh: Ah. hm06:33
DaSkreechthat is funky06:33
MedivhDaSkreech, Indeed! :S My reaction as well.06:33
DaSkreechnothing in X should be able to do that. Much less a screensaver06:33
MedivhYes :( Exactly my thinking as well.06:34
DaSkreechMedivh: can you mount the drive ?06:34
MedivhFrom the recovery console?06:34
DaSkreechfrom the live CD06:35
MedivhOh, I dunno, lemme try.06:35
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MedivhHmm, happen to know the terminal command off hand?06:37
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DaSkreechMedivh: do you know the partition?06:40
MedivhDaSkreech, Never mind, I got it.06:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ho - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:40
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:40
DaSkreechMedivh: cool06:40
MedivhYes I do :)  I got it, It mounted fine, I can access it.06:41
cathedramm.. can I ask a question?06:41
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:41
MedivhCathedra, I believe it's an old "Support" proverb, "Don't ask to ask, just ask."06:41
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cathedraah great then I can ask my question here06:41
MedivhThe bot says it all doesn't it?06:41
DaSkreechcan you pastebin the file from /mountplace/var/log/dmesg.0 ?06:42
cathedraok I will ask my question06:42
MedivhDaSkreech, yep one second.06:42
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cathedrathis is my question ----> how to save a wireless profile?06:43
cathedracan save no settings06:43
MedivhDaSkreech, http://pastebin.com/d51eed5bc :)06:43
DaSkreechthat's not helpful at all :)06:45
MedivhDaSkreech oh wait, that wasn't the right one O_O06:45
cathedraI asked my question06:45
MedivhDaSkreech sorry, I think that was the other one, not .006:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paitence - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:45
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:45
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MedivhAw, I'm slow :(06:46
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cathedrahow long is the waiting list?06:46
DaSkreechcathedra: Look in System settings -> networking I think06:46
cathedraDaSkreech: I did doesn't work06:46
dorkfaceAre there alternatives to KNetworkManager?06:46
cathedrawhenever  I click save wont do it06:47
cathedraanyone else have this issue?06:47
MedivhDaSkreech, http://pastebin.com/d57402e6a <-- There, this one is the dmesg.006:47
cathedraI need several different profiles06:47
cathedrawell at least two06:47
cathedrawhy doesn't save my profiles wireless?06:48
DaSkreechI'm not sure I don't use wireless :-(06:48
cathedrayou know, actually I don't use kubntu06:48
cathedraI help other06:48
DaSkreechcathedra: can You do me a favour and search for it on launchpad ?06:48
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots06:48
cathedraand I like Linux to be succesful06:48
DaSkreechcathedra: I'm sure. And I am sure it will be addressed06:49
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MedivhCathedra, I can handle hardware, but certainly don't know Linux as well as I should :( The only thing I really know about Wireless networks is how to set up a Mac and Windows one, sorry I can't be more helpful. :(06:50
cathedraoh another weird thing, I have a computer that doesn't shutdown and... oh wait does but weirdely. I need to logoff and shutdown from login windows06:50
cathedraotherwise the screen goes black and never fully shutsdown06:50
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cathedraand also whenever I start it doesn't show the Splash screen06:50
DaSkreechcathedra: You have an application trying to block shutdown I'll beat06:51
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DaSkreech last time that happened to me I found out the Cd burner was tryingto ask me something and kept requesting the shutdown be delayed till I answered06:51
MedivhHow rude.06:52
cathedraDaSkreech: mm... how can I troubleshoot? what kinda logs should I look?06:52
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cathedrabecause whaever logs gotta be after hard reboot06:52
zach_what's a good pdf reader06:52
DaSkreechMedivh: Actually it was trying to be polite06:52
DaSkreechMedivh: that's what clean shut downs do :)06:52
cathedraDaSkreech: here the screen goes black but the computer is running still06:53
DaSkreechcathedra: right06:53
cathedrazach_: !pdf06:53
MedivhDaSkreech, Hmm, interesting way to look at it. While you help Cathedra, I will go and get myself a beer.06:53
DaSkreechcathedra: You could press alt+ctrl+F1 to get to a new terminal and shut down from there06:53
DaSkreech!pdf | zach_06:53
ubotuzach_: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)06:53
cathedraDaSkreech: oh... that's why when I completely log off shutdowns properly?06:53
DaSkreechWhen you get the black scren06:54
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DaSkreechcathedra: You could also check whats running at that time might give you an idea of the blocking process06:54
cathedraDaSkreech: he, as I said I install Kubunut on ppl that screech at the sight of having to login with a password06:54
DaSkreechHa ha :)06:55
DaSkreechWell alt+ctrl+Bkspc should be a nice get out free card for them06:55
cathedrathey won't know ctrl+alt-shit/F#+TAB06:55
DaSkreechthat will kill the login and give them the login window06:55
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cathedraDaSkreech: I've tried that one06:55
DaSkreechthey can shut down from there06:55
cathedradoesn't work06:55
DaSkreechthat's interesting06:55
DaSkreechmight be a different matter then06:56
cathedraI should make it clear then06:56
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cathedraDaSkreech: does remote VNC need port forwarding?06:56
DaSkreechI don't know how you have your network setup06:56
cathedraI've used VNC localy06:57
DaSkreechIt may it may not06:57
cathedrano network06:57
cathedrano I mean accross the city06:57
cathedranot persoanl06:57
DaSkreechYeah but at some point it needs to come to your network :)06:58
cathedraDaSkreech: but the other person would need port forwarding as well right?06:58
DaSkreechI guess that would be the safe way if you knew what machine you wanted it to go to06:59
DaSkreechor you could have a stateless forward on the gateway06:59
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cathedraDaSkreech: what's stateless gateway?07:00
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MedivhDaSkreech, so...did you happen to find what you were looking for in the pastebin that I updated for you?07:04
cathedraDaSkreech: what's a stateless gateway?07:05
DaSkreechIf someone initiates the contact from inside the network it will pass the info through07:06
DaSkreechMedivh: nope07:06
ussercathedra: the forwarding only needs to be setup for the server the comp u connect to07:06
DaSkreechI want to know when in the start up it stops07:06
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MedivhDaSkreech, so my original assessment, to...reformat the drive stands?07:07
cathedrabut that other computer is  a single user not on a network07:07
DaSkreechMedivh: Do you have a seperate home partition ?07:10
MedivhDaSkreech...Eh no :(07:11
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DaSkreechMedivh: Do you have data that you need to save?07:12
MedivhDaSkreech, No, Like I said, I just installed Kubuntu from the CD mere minutes before coming on here.07:12
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DaSkreechAh :) how much space did you give it?07:13
Medivh1gig for swap (Which is overkill, or so I'm told, but I always make it equal to my actual RAM...Is that bad?) And the remaining 79gigs on the SATA drive for the actual distro.07:13
DaSkreechHa ha :)07:14
DaSkreechMedivh: give / like 10 Gigs and make /home the rest of the drive07:14
MedivhOk, so make 3 actual partitions.07:14
MedivhNever done that before, is it...typical? Or did I actually install this incorrectly?07:15
DaSkreechMedivh: No it's cool :)07:15
DaSkreechAll your data gets stored in /home07:15
DaSkreechif you put it on a different parititon and you get the itch to reinstall you can blow away / and don't format /home07:16
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DaSkreech all of you documents and data is safe and you have a new fresh system07:16
kerry_how do i install more then one thing with a konsole?07:16
DaSkreechthe sweet part is cause your personal settings are saved in your home folder all the apps remember the last song you opened etc :)07:16
DaSkreechkerry_: apt-get install thing1 thing 207:17
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kerry_DaSkreech: i got tru to install linux with xp but it take up a lot alltho i told it%  gigs07:17
MedivhDaSkreech, Lovely!07:18
kerry_ gigsDaSkreech: the ext is like07:18
DaSkreechkerry_: Umm ok. How much did it take up?07:18
MedivhDaSkreech, Well I'll do that now, so...I'll probably be watching TV while it's going, so count me AFK until it's done ;)07:18
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DaSkreechprobably won't take too long :)07:18
Medivh_AwayProbably not, but it gives me time to watch the news and finish my beer >.> *Turns attention to BBC*07:19
tazgodxdoes anyone know how to install java SDK and/or JRE 1.5?07:19
tazgodxor higher?07:19
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.07:19
kerry_DaSkreech: it was a thing that scrolls left to rightby default it was like half way i braught it to the left marking %07:19
Daisuke_Idogood evening07:20
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kerry_DaSkreech: it look like linux does work backwords :(07:21
tazgodxwell, it says its already teh newest version, but when frostwire tries to load it tells me to install java 1.5 or later07:21
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DaSkreechkerry_: how much % did you put it at?07:23
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire07:23
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Medivh_AwayDaSkreech, so before I start this, I made the 10 gigs to root, as you suggested. And the remaining 71 to /home as the mount point, correct?07:24
kerry_DaSkreech: 1007:24
Medivh_AwayDaSkreech, lovely, back to the news then.07:24
DaSkreechkerry_: of?07:24
kerry_DaSkreech: 10 gig to install linux07:25
DaSkreechthat's fine07:25
kerry_DaSkreech: that what i choose in the option when it finish install i check it on xp it take up 57 gig's07:27
DaSkreechThat doesn't sound right07:27
DaSkreechLinux os generally pretty good about doing what it is told07:29
cosmo_is the procedure pretty much the same on gutsy as it was on fiesty for enabling dual monitors?07:29
kerry_and it generally does go crazy sometimes too DaSkreech07:30
Daisuke_IdoDaSkreech: but it *only* does what it's told, it doesn't take initiative07:30
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Daisuke_Idohow big is this drive?07:30
snowdonkeyHi.  How do I return to a regular user again after doing "sudo -i" in the console?07:31
DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: Isn't that the hallmark of a computer07:31
DaSkreech rather than the HAL-mark ?07:31
Daisuke_IdoDaSkreech: not with an OS from that "other" company07:31
Daisuke_Idosnowdonkey: 'exit'07:31
snowdonkeydaisuke_Ido: Thank you much!07:31
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Daisuke_Idoi wish all the questions were that easy :D07:32
Daisuke_Idokerry_: how big is the hard drive you're installing onto?07:32
DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: If you could help cathedra that would rock07:32
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chequersDaisuke_Ido: how long is a piece of string? :p07:33
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Daisuke_Idohis issue is going deep into things i'm not familiar with07:34
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Daisuke_Idobut here's the thing with kerry07:34
Daisuke_Idohe wanted 10gb07:34
Daisuke_Idoset it to 10%07:34
Daisuke_Idoat any drive size other than 100gb, the two aren't equal07:34
DaSkreechThat's what I'm thinking07:35
DaSkreechbut a 570GB drive?07:35
cathedraDaisuke_Ido: what?07:35
Daisuke_Idosorry, i know, !enter and all of that...  well, what about swap space?  i can see 7gb being used...07:35
Daisuke_Idocathedra: sorry for highlighting you, was just saying that your issue goes well beyond what i know about networking :)07:36
kerry_Daisuke_Ido: i got a 160 gig i went to install xp and part it in 3 then i went to install linux it wasnt seing the 3 part just one(160gig)like it was never parted.so i choose to do an partion of 10% when i did next is when linux detected i got 3 part i did back it come back to 1.so i give up and continue to install how it see the hdd i choose 14%(10gig's) for linux when it install it take up 57gig's :-(07:36
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pramodI have GRUB installed on my PC...07:36
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pramodI use both WinXP and Kubuntu07:37
cathedraDaisuke_Ido: ok07:37
pramodby default it is to load on Kubuntu...07:37
pramodhow i make it load on Win XP by befault?07:37
dorkfaceTip:  If you plan on cleaning out the windows partition, and reinstalling it, remember that windows writes over the boot sector, and grub won't load up after windows is installed07:38
pramodyeah.. ok...07:38
Daisuke_Idopramod: there's a setting in grub07:38
pramodthat's why... i installed XP first then Linux...07:38
Daisuke_Idolemme look real quick07:38
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pramodhow i access the setting?07:39
cosmo_ is the procedure pretty much the same on gutsy as it was on fiesty for enabling dual monitors? as far as modifying the xorg.conf07:39
Daisuke_Idoyou'll have to do a quick edit :)07:39
pramodquick edit?07:39
pramodhow can i do a quick edit?07:40
kerry_Daisuke_Ido: my linux is install on 57gig how do i put it to 10gig?07:40
Daisuke_Idokerry_: not sure, i never shrink partitions in linux :)07:41
kerry_Daisuke_Ido: i try partition magic it cant shrink ext's07:41
Daisuke_Idopramod: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst07:41
Daisuke_Idokerry_: might try gparted or qtparted07:42
DaSkreechcosmo_: should be07:42
pramodokie am in it...07:42
kerry_the people who do kubuntu should make the instalment more understading07:42
DaSkreechkerry_: You will have to do that from the live CD07:42
Daisuke_Idoscroll down until you see your windows entry07:42
kerry_it's crappy07:42
Daisuke_Idokerry_: the installer is nicer than most operating systems, especially windows.07:42
pramodyeah it is down....07:43
pramodat the last section...07:43
Daisuke_Idois there a line at the bottom of it that says "savedefault"?07:43
pramodyeah there is...07:43
Daisuke_Idogo all the way back up to the top07:43
kerry_DaSkreech: cd live?will i have to install something to do that?07:43
Daisuke_Idothere's a line that says "default          0"07:44
pramodwait i will check07:44
pramodyeah got it...07:44
Daisuke_Idochange 0 to saved07:44
pramodwhat should i put?07:44
Medivh_AwayRebooting :)07:44
pramodchange it to saved?07:44
Daisuke_Idoyes, it should say default saved07:44
pramodgot it....07:45
Daisuke_Idosave the file07:45
pramodokie saved...07:45
Daisuke_Idoand close er up07:45
Daisuke_Idoyou're all done07:45
pramodwell i should not have changed anything else?07:45
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Daisuke_Idowhat that did is...  whatever you last selected (be it linux or xp) will become your default until you choose another one :)07:46
pramodah aloright...07:46
Daisuke_Idoi just wanted to make sure that windows would save as default before having you change that line07:46
pramodthanx brother...07:46
Daisuke_Idoyou're quite welcome07:46
pramodokie i will try it...07:46
pramodc ya..07:46
Daisuke_Idoselect windows when you rebooy07:46
DaSkreechThat's neat :)07:47
Daisuke_Idoafter that it will default to windows07:47
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DaSkreechNow if I could only find a way for the kernels to output info after they are installed07:47
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kerry_i try to install linux on 10gig but it was install on 57 gig.how do i shrink linux?07:48
pramodlol got some updates to make...07:48
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DaSkreechkerry_: With qtparted or Gparted07:49
DaSkreechkerry_: they are on the live CD reboot into the Live cd and run either one07:49
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pramodhow can we make .nrg images and mount it on linux???07:50
kerry_DaSkreech: u will help me right?dont go sleep on me hien07:50
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DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: going to be up for another 20-30 minutes?07:51
DaSkreechhi medivh07:51
pramodcan we make images from the K3B application provided by linux?07:51
Daisuke_Idoyou can make images, but not nero format images07:51
pramodthen how we mount them on linux?07:51
Daisuke_Idoyou're limited to pretty much iso and bin/cue (much to my dreamcast loving dismay07:51
medivhDaSkreech, ello again :) Everything is good so far as I can tell, I just need to run the xorg reconfiguration again, and update stuff...But meh *Shrug* No biggie.07:51
Daisuke_IdoDaSkreech: i'm actually headed out in a minute07:51
Daisuke_Idosleep time07:51
DaSkreechMe too07:52
DaSkreechYou can mount .nrgs in linux07:52
DaSkreech there is an app in kde-apps07:52
pramodwhich app is it?07:53
DaSkreechsearch for .nrg07:53
DaSkreech It's a service menu I think07:53
pramodlemme c...07:53
medivhDaSkreech, do you believe I should report my... Black screen of doom as a bug or something? It just bothers me that, that happened.07:54
DaSkreechIf you can replicate it07:54
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DaSkreechWhat screensaver was it?07:54
medivhThe fireworks one, a personal favourite :}07:54
DaSkreechHave you looked at the setup?07:55
DaSkreechthey have some crazy fun stuff in there07:55
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medivhYes, infact I was just done setting it up and had hit apply when...Death by Cursor happened to befall my poor partition.07:55
DaSkreechWell I just played with it07:56
DaSkreechSeems ok07:56
DaSkreechHey medivh think that you can handle a partition resize?07:56
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medivhI'm doing things in different order this time hehe, Updates first, then Xorg, then all that fun stuff.07:57
medivhDaSkreech, do I know how to do it? Without repartitioning, I don't :S07:57
ubuntuDaisuke_Ido: ok zhqt do i do to shrink linux07:57
DaSkreechmedivh: :)07:57
DaSkreechubuntu: Kubuntu live Cd ?07:58
ubuntuDaSkreech: yes07:58
DaSkreechpress alt+space -> type qtp -> press enter07:58
ubuntuhow do i change the keyboard layout first07:59
DaSkreechsystem settings -> regional settings08:00
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reldruhhello. I'm trying to set up a second display (a TV with a VGA input) using the VGA output on my nvidia card, but the screen isn't recognized when I plug it in. Is there an easy way to set this up?08:01
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!08:01
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ubuntuDaSkreech: didnt help.oh zell to the qtq thing08:01
DaSkreechubuntu: Didn't open qtparted ?08:02
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:02
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead08:02
MilhousePunkRockI am planning to do a fresh install this weekend after more than 1.5 years... As usual, I am pondering about the partitioning scheme that would fit my needs best...08:02
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama08:02
DaSkreechreldruh: ^^08:02
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medivhDual Head lol08:03
reldruhthank you :-)08:03
medivhMakes it sound like Scylla out of Greek Mythology08:03
ubuntuDaSkreech: i dont understand08:03
ubuntuthis thing it long08:03
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DaSkreechubuntu: press alt+space somthing will come up on the screen. type qtp It should say QTparted then press enter08:04
DaSkreechPh :- (08:04
medivhOi lol08:04
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!08:04
DaSkreech!helpersnack | medivh08:04
ubuntuDaSkreech: i did it allredy08:04
ubotumedivh: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!08:04
DaSkreechubuntu: You clicked on your drive ?08:04
ubuntuDaSkreech: its there but its like its 4 ti;e ;y screen08:05
ubuntuits long08:05
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ubuntuDaSkreech: did thqt08:05
DaSkreechubuntu: Just resize the window to see it better08:05
DaSkreech right click on the 56 GB partition and choose resize08:05
MilhousePunkRockI have 30 GB to spend... Was thinking about 10 for / and the rest for /home. The only concern that I have is that I might have to install Windows later on *sigh*08:05
medivhShouldn't you be getting the helper snacks DaSkreech? hehe08:05
ubuntuDaSkreech: i try to rezize it didnt zork08:06
DaSkreechMilhousePunkRock: Install Windows ona USB drive and just use that when needed08:06
DaSkreechubuntu: What did it say?08:06
medivhMilhousePunkRock, Only 30 gigs for two operating systems? O_o *Lol* /agree with DaSkreech's suggestion.08:06
DaSkreechMilhousePunkRock: Or start looking into how to strip Windows to make it smaller08:07
ubuntuDaSkreech: say.it didnt say nothing08:07
ubuntuDaSkreech: it only got info of the hdd08:07
MilhousePunkRockDaSkreech medivh: I am not going to install Windows right now, I just have to make sure I could when I have to later... From what I read now, it does not even matter which partition it gets...08:07
DaSkreechYou set the size you wanted it to be ?08:07
ubuntuDaSkreech: not yet im looking to ere i does set the size08:08
DaSkreechRight click and choose resize08:08
MilhousePunkRockI won't need more than let's say 5 GB for home, since I do not handle big files or many stuff here, it's only my laptop... There is an external 250 GB on the desktop and 400 GB of NAS space available...08:09
ubuntuDaSkreech:  its grey i cant clic on resize08:09
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medivhMilhousePunkRock, If you wondering the minimum I've ever put Windows on it was 10 gigs :S But you're correct in saying it doesn't care.08:09
DaSkreechYou clicked on the drive and it's showing the right partitions ?08:09
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ubuntuDaSkreech: yes ext 3 56gig08:10
ubuntuDaSkreech: it got linux logo08:10
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MilhousePunkRockmedivh: Even if I did install Windows later on, it won't get big. Just the essential parts, maybe OOo and Fx. And a few poker games... Plus the specialised software that requires me to run Windows at all08:10
ubuntuDaSkreech: it has an option active.zat is it08:11
medivhMilhousePunkRock, so then it sounds like to me that you have far more than enough space to spare :) But as for Window's minimums space, Are we talking Vista or XP?08:11
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DaSkreechHuh. You are supposed to have other options08:12
medivhI was under the impression that Vista requires a fair bit more space.08:12
DaSkreechubuntu: All the partitions give you no options other than active ?08:12
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MilhousePunkRockmedivh: XP that is... Vista won't run on this rig, at least not in a way that it was worth to prefer Vista over XP, if there are reasons for that at all08:12
ubuntuDaSkreech: i can resize all the other exept linnnnnux08:13
MilhousePunkRockGood thing is, from my university, I have access to all sorts of Windows isos legally... I even downloaded Vista, never burned the discs though08:13
DaSkreechubuntu: Oh ok ... I guess you could delete it and set it to what you want and reinstall08:14
DaSkreechtry a ext3 partition08:14
DaSkreechmedivh: Define "fair"08:14
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medivhDaSkreech, More than XP, but less than Mutiple copies of World of Warcraft? ;) lol08:15
ubuntuDaSkreech: delet and reinstall u got to be kidding08:15
DaSkreechubuntu: Well if it won't let you resize08:15
DaSkreechIt's ext2 "08:15
medivhMilhousePunkRock, I can give you a thousand and one reasons to hate Vista *cough* But I wont go there ;) I'd say at least 7gigs, and if you need special software, leave 10. So you said you want 10 for root? Go 10 root, 10 /home and 9ish for Windows (Assuming for swap)08:15
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents08:16
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reldruhif I upgraded to Gutsy, with the XRandR with ouput hotplugging, would it automatically configure my second monitor without having to edit xorg.conf?08:16
MilhousePunkRockmedivh: So that is 20 for /home until the day comes...08:16
MilhousePunkRock!lol | medivh08:16
ubotumedivh: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.08:16
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medivhTruth, sorry, WoW habit.08:17
ubuntuDaSkreech: zhy will i wqnt help from window when im on linux08:17
medivhBeing an English teacher I should know bette.r08:17
DaSkreechyou know Bette R? I love her stuff!!!08:17
DaSkreechubuntu: What do you mean?08:18
MilhousePunkRockbefore I started googleing this morning, I was under the impression Win would require to be on hda1. Which does not seem to be the case...08:18
medivhMilhousePunkRock, Yep, I'd say so...But you'd have to give a little pull for swap, even if it's tiny ;) Don't forget that.08:18
DaSkreechWell he doesn't need a swap08:18
ubuntuDaSkreech: u told me to go to window ch08:18
MilhousePunkRockmedivh: Being on only 512 MB, I know the need for swap...08:18
DaSkreechubuntu: No that was for MilhousePunkRock08:18
MilhousePunkRockubuntu: That was for me and medivh08:19
MilhousePunkRockreldruh: Gutsy is in #ubuntu+1 until the final release08:19
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medivhMilhousePunkRock, 512? :( Would you like me to buy you RAM?08:20
MilhousePunkRockBy the way, is there something like Wine, but for MacOS applications? Scientist are somewhat hooked on Mac OS...08:20
ubuntuDaSkreech: oh lol how my na;e is ubuntu i get confuse08:20
DaSkreechubuntu: change it08:21
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:21
DaSkreechor something like that :)08:21
MilhousePunkRockmedivh: Definetly... I think the machine can take up to 2 GB, but it's an older Laptop, so getting good ram for it is somewhat difficult08:21
DaSkreechmedivh: I'd like a PS3 thanks :)08:21
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ubuntuDaSkreech: i knoz hoz to change it but i can find the sy;bol08:21
DaSkreechtry /nick newnick08:21
MilhousePunkRockmedivh: I started with Kubuntu Dapper on only 256 MB08:21
ubuntuDaSkreech: the keyboard is in confution08:22
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DaSkreechubuntu: in any case sort out your keyboard08:22
DaSkreechyou can run parted from the command line with sudo parted08:22
ubuntuDaSkreech: try it allready it didnt zork08:22
DaSkreech that can resize ext208:22
DaSkreechubuntu: sudo parted won't resize ?08:22
medivhMilhousePunkRock, I actually was on Dapper until just recently, granted I've been updating my box, so at the moment I have 1.5gigs I believe >.>08:22
ubuntuDaSkreech: just sudo parted08:23
DaSkreechand that doesn't run ?08:23
MilhousePunkRockmedivh: In the lab, I am currently using an oooold iMac (one of those candy-colored all-in-one CRT screen machines) with only 196 MB or something08:23
medivhTime for Zorg >.>08:23
DaSkreechMilhousePunkRock: can you walk through a resize of a partition /08:24
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medivhMilhousePunkRock, ah, I think I once destroyed one of those for personal entertainment >.>08:24
MilhousePunkRockDaSkreech: I have always used either the GPartEd live CD or parted on the shell08:25
DaSkreechMilhousePunkRock: great can you walk ubuntu through resizing his 56 GB ext2 partition to 10 GB08:25
MilhousePunkRockmedivh: And there is OS X on it, for some reason... All the desktop effects work almost smooth...08:26
ubuntuDaSkreech:its an ext308:26
medivhMilhousePunkRock, really? Wow.08:26
MilhousePunkRockDaSkreech: Well... I could at least try, but with no guarantee whatsoever08:26
MilhousePunkRockubuntu: So what's the current status?08:26
MilhousePunkRockmedivh: Compiz could learn a lot about the performance from its role model ;)08:27
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medivhI have an old laptop, no name, I think it was made before penitum, thing is bloody ancient. It has Windows 98 on it and it takes about a half hour just to turn on :P08:27
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ubuntuMilhousePunkRock: mm when i try installing linux on 10 gig it take up 56gigs i qant to shrink it to 10gigs08:28
MilhousePunkRockmedivh: You should try xubuntu on that, you'd be surprised...08:28
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MilhousePunkRockDaSkreech: Well, it does not seem to have been parted, what's the cli tool that gives you sort of a menu with numbers to choose the options for partitioning?08:28
DaSkreechfdisk but that's destructive08:29
DaSkreechopen up onqueror and type man:/parted08:29
medivhMilhousePunkRock You know I was really thinking about it, but there has been a lot of family chaos recently, and as such, I actually lost the power supply >.< So until I can find that again, I'll be putting off my Xubuntu plans.08:29
MilhousePunkRockubuntu: Are you trying to use the inbuilt partitioning tool during the kubuntu installation?08:29
MilhousePunkRockDaSkreech: I think it was cfdisk, let me check08:29
DaSkreechNight all08:29
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MilhousePunkRockmedivh: I just got myself a secondary power supply for around 10 bucks on eBay08:30
MilhousePunkRockDaSkreech: Night!08:30
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: ....08:31
medivhMilhousePunkRock, yeah but finding one for something this old...I dunno :S08:31
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MilhousePunkRocksleepy: OK, I got a plan... 1. I get myself some coffee, in the meantime you open a shell (Hit "Alt-F2" and type "konsole").08:31
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: lol just to ope a konsole08:32
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: ...08:32
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medivhExcuse my random leave :P08:32
medivhWhen I hit OK on that Window...X just went O NOEZ08:33
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MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Do you have more than one physical drive?08:34
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MilhousePunkRocksleepy: If not, run "sudo cfdisk"08:34
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: no just 1 that is parted in ;any08:34
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: i dont zant to reinstall linux08:34
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: You are on the Live CD right now, are you?08:35
MilhousePunkRockmedivh: Welcome back08:35
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: yes08:35
medivhMilhousePunkRock, Thanks :)08:35
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: cfdisk open? I am not sure if this will work on the live cd08:36
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: i have 1 hdd that parted in ;any do i stll run cfdisk08:37
medivhErk >.<08:37
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Yeah, at least try it08:37
medivhMy resolultion isn't fixed >.<08:37
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: Opened disk read-only - you have no permission to writ08:38
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: thqt za the konsole said08:38
medivhOoo yay, I got it.08:38
HackAvatarjeez I just bought a 22" LCD and it is leet :)08:39
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: ...08:40
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MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Quit cfdisk and try again with "sudo cfdisk sda"08:41
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Could be hda instead of sda, depending on the type of your hdd08:41
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: sudo cfdisk sda08:43
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Does that work? If not, it should be hda instead of sda08:43
sleepy FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive08:43
sleepy                          Press any key to exit cfdisk08:43
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Try hda08:44
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sleepymy hdd is sata08:44
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Then it should be sda, I assume08:44
MilhousePunkRockAnd that gives you the fatal error?08:45
sleepy2 of them08:45
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Weird...08:45
MilhousePunkRockDo you have a fast internet connection, sleepy?08:45
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: should i enable zrite its ;ayby that the probb08:46
MilhousePunkRockIf so, I'd suggest downloading the GPartEd Live CD, that has always worked for me08:46
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: hoz big it is08:46
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Is the partiton mounted?08:46
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: no08:47
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: It's 49 MB08:48
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MilhousePunkRocksleepy: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/08:48
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: i dont have a blank cd08:49
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MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Hmm... Too bad... It should be possible with cfdisk though.08:50
MilhousePunkRockI wonder how...08:50
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: i; on cfdisk08:51
waylandbillsleepy: off to the store you go to get a blank cd then. :-P08:52
sleepyhahahaha 2 in the morning08:52
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: ?? Did cfdisk open without the error?08:52
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: yes08:52
MilhousePunkRockSo you see a table of your partitions now?08:52
sleepynope all i see is pri;ary logical cancel08:53
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: choos primary right08:54
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lee__i have one question befor I hit the hay....where do I get talkers at?08:54
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lee__eh anyone?08:55
gunashekarsleepy hits hay while the sun shnes08:55
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Does it look like this somehow: http://www.spongedpics.com/upload/WY1192258529W47106be1bb114-Bildschirmphoto9.png08:56
lee__lol... well Iam trying to figure out the tts on this thing and I have no vioces08:56
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achillesAloha all, i need help I only get logout button in logout menu in Kubuntu after the kde base upgrade08:57
MilhousePunkRocklee__: tts as in TeamSpeak with an accidental second t?08:57
lee__as in text-speech08:58
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MilhousePunkRocklee__: No idea, sorry...08:58
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MilhousePunkRockachilles: You will probably have to grant the right to shutdown to all users08:58
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Still there?08:58
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: http://www.spongedpics.com/index.php08:58
lee__running a 64 bit systemm...a freind of mine on ehre hsowed me how to get it to run flash08:58
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MilhousePunkRocksleepy: That's not the URL of the picture, but the homepage08:59
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: it takes time zhit this keyboard08:59
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: http://www.spongedpics.com/upload/WN1192258690W47106c823a2db-snapshot1.png09:00
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MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Weren't we talking about 56 GB earlier?09:00
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Do you have more than one drive? Maybe it is sdb instead?09:01
medivhI'm going to bed everyone :)09:01
medivhHave a good night.09:01
sleepywhet option do i choose09:01
MilhousePunkRockmedivh: Sleep well09:01
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medivhYou too Milhouse :)09:01
sleepylet te bed bugs bite09:01
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: hoz did u get to the part zhere u see your partitions09:02
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: It seems you picked the wrong drive, maybe...09:02
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: no i typa sudo cf.... and this is the firts page i got09:03
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: unless i have to mount all hdd09:03
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: sudo cfdisk <thedesireddrive> ??09:03
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: oh i didnt knoz09:04
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Changing the partition table on a mounted drive is not a smart idea...09:05
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: So leave it unmounted, but pick the right one, I'd say it should be sda09:05
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: So type: "sudo cfdisk sda"09:05
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: theres no nu;ber that goes zhit it09:06
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: No, you want to open the whole drive, not just one partitio09:06
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: fatal error09:07
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MilhousePunkRocksleepy: How is the drive usually addressed? Is it sda at all?09:08
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock:  ys09:09
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: zhen i went to mount it it was sda09:09
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Is the drive mounted right now?09:10
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: u know i;, going to reinstaal but u wiil help ;e i dont want it to take up a lot of space] 09:11
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: When it was mounted, could you access it properly? Maybe there's a module missing so the drive doesn't work properly on the Live CD09:11
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MilhousePunkRocksleepy: There is no need to reinstall, actually... And the partitoning tool during the installation usually does what it is supposed to...09:12
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Don't you have a CD-RW that could be deleted either? I think GPartEd would be the easiest solution09:13
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: yes but my conection is only 51209:15
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: So downloading takes about 15 minutes...09:15
sleepythat a lot09:15
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: If you did it when I mentioned it before, you'd be done already...09:16
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: i got blanks cd but there a are lightscribe09:16
sleepyi dont zant to zast 1 for that09:17
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MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Your choice... Do you have a USB thumb drive, maybe?09:17
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sleepyMilhousePunkRock: thumb09:18
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: gparted not doznloading09:19
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sleepyi quit09:23
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: I'd say, "waste" one of those CD-Rs and try GPartEd...09:25
ScuniziWhat is the name of the plugin for Konquer or Kaffeine to play wmv files from the web09:26
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: it not doznloading.hoz do i joind partition to ;ake 109:27
sleepyScunizi: free so;thing09:28
sleepylol dan; keyboard09:29
Scunizisleepy, can you be more specific?09:29
sleepyScunizi: non free09:29
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Scunizisleepy.. but what do i search for in adept? non free?09:30
sleepyScunizi: nonfree09:30
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Scuniziflash plugin-nonfree I already have.. looking for something that will play mgp09:31
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: Why is it not downloading? Try a different mirror09:31
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: i allredy delet linux09:32
sleepyMilhousePunkRock: how to join them09:32
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sleepyi give up09:33
MilhousePunkRocksleepy: The partitions? Well, with cfdisk or GPartEd or QtParted... Just try again when installing, it is supposed to work09:33
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MilhousePunkRockCan Dolphin sort by file type?09:51
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akrillmy laptop's touchpad is too slow, how can i increase the cursor speed?10:04
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medivhErg :( Insomnia ftl.10:13
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksynaptics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:15
hangthedj!find ksynaptics10:16
ubotuFound: ksynaptics10:16
hangthedj!info ksynaptics10:16
ubotuksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)10:16
akrillinstalled it heh. thanks10:16
kopcocan somebody help to me?? I have problem with program Envy :(10:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:17
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newsense07!bot abuse10:17
ubotuPlease don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot10:17
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hangthedjwho's abusing the bots?10:17
medivhI fail to see what prompted that.10:17
kopco!info envy10:17
ubotuPackage envy does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:17
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hangthedjerr bot10:17
pag!envy | kopco10:17
ubotukopco: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!10:17
akrillwow, kubuntu 64-bit is so much faster than 32-bit on my box10:18
akrillits amazing the diff10:18
medivhDon't suppose anyone ues KBFX?10:18
newsense07hangthedj: wasnt meant twords you, sorry10:18
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newsense07hangthedj: was trying to select something else in irc history10:19
pagmedivh, I've used it for maybe two hours - does it count? :P10:19
hangthedjheres a tip to people: if your trying to find something only for yourself10:19
hangthedjtry /msg ubotu !ksynaptic for example10:19
hangthedjor /msg ubotu !find ksynaptic10:20
hangthedjit will give you a private message.10:20
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linux_stuanyone know if there is a file that can be edited to make changes to kde settings rather than use the control center?10:20
newsense07hangthedj: sorry again, was selecting a previous  comment and selected the wrong one10:20
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contrast83Anyone know what would cause KNetworkManager to not list any devices on right-click even though I *am* online?10:20
hangthedji know, i was just giving a tip. :)10:20
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medivhpag, heh, well I don't believe it's working like it should, which frusterates meh.10:21
newsense07hangthedj: im not a newb, just a little drunk10:21
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medivhme* too I have no idea where that H came from lol10:21
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paglinux_stu, ~/.kde/share/config/$ConfigFileYouNeed - there's no general file, that has acces to all settings iirc10:21
paghmph. he left :(10:21
flokuehnill tell him if i meet10:22
newsense07i hate irc'ing when im drunk and trying to figure out the channel ban or if i was really drunk the g-line in the morning lol10:22
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hangthedjcontrast83, i have a atheros driver, and sometimes that happens to me.  i have to sudo killall NetworkManager && sudo NetworkManager10:22
hangthedjand it usually fixes itself10:22
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contrast83hangthedj: leave knetworkmanager running while you do that?10:22
hangthedjcontrast83, yeah10:23
pagmedivh, could you be more specific - how does it work, and how it should in your opinion work?10:23
hangthedjin fact, i wrote a little shell script to do it.10:23
hangthedjit usually only happens when i'm trying to connect to unsecure networks away from home, if that makes any sense.10:24
medivhpag, I've got it never mind, it was...frusteratingly vauge.10:24
contrast83hangthedj: It does... Didn't work though, but thanks anyway. :)10:24
newsense07contrast83: using dhcp ?10:25
hangthedjit usually takes a second for me. if your using madwifi.. .in my script i sudo modprobe -r ath-pci && sudo modprobe ath-pci10:25
contrast83newsense07: yeah10:25
newsense07contrast83: if so might want to renew your lease with dhcpclient or whatever client you use10:25
contrast83newsense07: umm... dumb question, but how might i do that?10:25
newsense07sudo dhclient3 ?10:26
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contrast83newsense07: still no dice, thanks though. :-)10:26
contrast83it'll probably fix itself eventually. just started recently with a recent gutsy update.10:27
newsense07what chipset is the card and what kernel you using ?10:27
contrast83(and for the record, i already asked in #ubuntu+1 and didn't get anywhere. :-) )10:27
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hangthedjcontrast83, what is your wireless card?10:27
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newsense07contrast83: what module were you using under your previous kernel ?10:28
contrast83Cisco Aironet / 2.6.22-1410:28
newsense07and now ?10:28
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contrast83newsense07: not sure, it just worked out of the box. like i said, the card is working fine now. it's just that knetworkmanager isn't.10:28
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contrast83madwifi modules if it worked ootb, right?10:29
hangthedjthere are alternatives to knetworkmanager, like kwlan, which is pretty nice, and wireless assistant10:29
hangthedji like kwlan10:29
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contrast83i'll check that out, thanks a lot. been wondering whether there was a good alternative for a while now, just been too lazy to look.10:30
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hangthedjif your running gutsy, its in the repositories.10:31
contrast83are there any network manager frontends that would be good for war driving? i.e., it automatically tries to connect to the strongest unencrypted signal?10:31
hangthedjin universe10:31
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newsense07contrast83: airsnort or kizmit maybe10:32
contrast83newsense07: thanks10:32
newsense07contrast83: err kismit might be the right spelling for that app10:33
hangthedji don't think airsnort or kizmit are very automatic10:33
newsense07hangthedj: from what i remember airsnort is10:34
akrillits kismet10:34
newsense07hangthedj: been a while since i needed to test the strength of my hex key10:34
newsense07akrill: thanks, been a while since ive used "those sort" of apps10:35
akrillno prob10:35
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hangthedjairsnort cracks stuff, but you need other programs to connect after you crack them10:35
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akrilli want to know when a new KisMac is coming out.10:36
newsense07contrast83: never tried it, if knetworkmanager ever disappears ill give it a try10:36
hangthedjkwlan constantly monitors your connects, where knetworkmanager tries a couple times and stops.10:37
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contrast83it lets you set it to run a script upon connecting to certain networks, and since i'm still doing "sudo mount <nfs-share> /mount/point" for networking, that'll make things easier10:37
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contrast83hangthedj: from my first impression, you have to tell it that it's ok to connect to an unfamiliar network. am i wrong?10:38
newsense07contrast83: why not a script to mount your nfs sharres too ?10:38
akrillummm how do i get knetworkmanager back working after installing kwlan10:38
contrast83newsense07: i have one, actually. i just mean it'll be nice to have it automated. :-)10:38
hangthedjcontrast83, not sure, there might be a config option for that.  i only use it when knetworkmanager is being dumb.10:39
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contrast83oh ok10:39
CH1PMy ethernet card is not getting detected and i am new to kubuntu please help, the forums do not contain the solution10:39
hangthedjwhich is only when i'm at a random coffee shop, which is not often10:39
newsense07contrast83: i hear ya man, i myself had to put together a couple scripts for various tasks, havent done that since i had my debian box a feqw yrs back10:40
contrast83i actually kind of enjoy making scripts.10:40
newsense07CH1P: how do you know its not being detected ?10:40
CH1Pnewsense07: i cannot see the wired connection and modconf too cant identify it10:41
hangthedjCH1P, what does lspci|grep Ethernet do10:41
newsense07hangthedj: ya asked my next ?10:42
hangthedji'll come back later, i gotta sleep10:42
newsense07gn man10:43
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CH1Phangthedj: i am on windows right now10:43
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akrillseriously, how do i re-enable networkmanager10:43
newsense07CH1P: can ya remove any ms brand os'es and call me in the morning10:44
contrast83akrill: i'm trying to figure that out atm too10:44
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akrilli made the mistake of trying kwlan10:44
akrillwhich sucks.10:44
akrilland now i cant get networkmanager back10:44
newsense07sudo dpkg--reconfigure knetwork-manager ?10:44
akrillmmm ponderous. will do that after this restart10:45
newsense07probobly the easiest way i would think10:45
akrilloh, and how do i get kubuntu to load ndiswrapper at startup? its been a loooong time since i played with that stuff10:45
CH1P"wired connection" or "ethernet" doesn't appear in administration > network10:45
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contrast83ohh, actually, kwlan conflicts with knetworkmanager. just noticed that.10:47
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newsense07ndiswrapper blows10:47
akrillcontrast83: apt-get remove kwlan10:48
akrillcontrast83: apt-get install knetworkmanager10:48
X314Z159newsense07: you want to know what blows? trying to install Ubuntu on your laptop and the processor burns up.10:48
akrilli just realized that too10:48
akrillX314Z159: ?!10:49
newsense07X314Z159: yeah that takes the cake10:49
X314Z159apparently ubuntu had some problem with my special model of laptop, the processor overheats. thats what i found out.. afterwards..10:49
newsense07X314Z159: dont feel bad, ive been without a computer/internet for 3 yrs since my 2800 dollar laptop was stolen10:50
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newsense07X314Z159: not a sager is it, i had one and it was nicknamed "the toaster"10:50
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X314Z159newsense07: I have so many spares so It doesnt matter.. but I had only one laptop ><10:50
X314Z159the toster \o/10:51
newsense07X314Z159: can ya send me a box, ill pay s+h10:51
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piccadoes kubuntu desktop contain the full openldap, but just not configured to startup as a daemon?10:53
X314Z159newsense07: hehe. but its expensive to send stuff ><10:53
newsense07X314Z159: send me a core2 duo and ill pay the s+h lmao10:54
newsense07X314Z159: box i got now is a p42.6ht i got out the trash10:54
X314Z159newsense07: haha. I dont have any duo cores.. well.. I have 2 but my brother has em10:54
newsense07X314Z159: im very poor10:55
newsense07X314Z159: im using a neighbors wifi connect10:55
X314Z159newsense07: I10:55
X314Z159I'm poor to, I just have allot of computers10:55
newsense07X314Z159: im just playing with ya except the part about my trash pc an being poor and hungry10:56
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newsense07X314Z159: send me a box and write it off at tax season ?10:56
X314Z159hehe, well, I live on noodles. 50p for 2pounds.10:57
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X314Z159newsense07: what is this tax you speak of? :P ;)10:58
newsense07X314Z159: we are alike than except you have more computers, lol10:58
newsense07X314Z159: taxes10:58
newsense07X314Z159: if theres no taxes where you are why dont you just setup a box for me and ill move in10:59
piccadoes kubuntu desktop come with mysql on the cd10:59
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newsense07!packages   mysql11:00
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MementoMorihi all11:00
MementoMorianyone from poland?11:00
X314Z159newsense07: hehe. we have a ton of taxes.. paying is something else11:00
newsense07MementoMori: im polish11:00
stdinpicca: no11:01
X314Z159MementoMori: #kubuntu-offtopic for chitchat11:01
piccastdin: just the common mysql libs?11:01
MementoMorinewsense07: can you translate a very little text for me?11:01
MementoMoriodpalenie jadra z flaga NOAPIC/NOACPI/ACPI=NO (niepotrzebne skreslic,11:01
MementoMorinigdy nie pamietam jak to idzie) moze cos pomoze11:01
stdinpicca: no, only the server version has mysql on it11:02
piccaokay thanks stdin11:03
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MementoMorinewsense07: ?11:04
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the-ermDid you try sudo apt-get install <package> ?11:08
newsense07MementoMori: i dont read polish as well as my brother, i never been to poland(grew up in us) but he says its saying that acpi neverbasically11:11
newsense07MementoMori: let me see if my sister is up i trust her more11:11
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MementoMorithank you11:11
newsense07MementoMori: hes not a computer guy so he didnt understand half of it11:12
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MementoMoridont worry newsense0711:12
newsense07MementoMori: im guessing acpi is disabled11:12
MementoMorithank you anyway11:12
newsense07MementoMori: sorry, i speak it from what i learneed from my grandma, but not as good as i thought11:13
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MementoMoriI'd like to know if I've to set all the three parameters or try one of them until I find the right one11:13
stdinit probably means "Try booting with the flags NOAPIC/NOACPI/ACPI=NO" so  you need to add "noapic noacpi acpi=no" to the boot line11:14
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MementoMoristdin: I will try this way11:15
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MementoMoriI'm trying to install kubuntu on a compaq 6720s11:17
newsense07MementoMori: you just made me realize that i cant read polish very well, how do you spell hot in polish (coronzso?)11:17
MementoMorigutsy have lan problems, feisty had video problems too11:17
the-ermis gusty out, or is it still beta?11:18
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MementoMoriis a rc11:18
stdinMementoMori: on my HP I have to use "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off" to boot11:19
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MementoMorithe formers didnt work11:20
MementoMorilets try the latters11:20
stdinlapic is the Intel version of apic11:20
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MementoMoriI just read it is "local apic"11:20
stdinwell it is, but it's intel's standard11:21
cosmo_I am trying to get my xorg configured on gutsy, but I cant get the ubuntu forums to load to find instructions, I have 2 monitors, the primary is a acer al2016w lcd and the secondary is a optiquest q71 crt, I am trying to get it set up in twinview can anyone help?11:21
stdingutsy support only in #ubuntu+111:22
cosmo_k thanks11:22
newsense07stdin: if ya know offhand, when will gutsy be released ?11:22
newsense07stdin: if anyone in here i knew you would, thanks11:23
the-ermSlow downloads that day.11:23
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MementoMorithe-erm: if you use torrents you'll have full speed11:24
X314Z159torrents \o/11:24
newsense07stdin: im running gutsy, everything should be normal when its officially released besides slow updates right /11:24
the-ermMementoMori: did you install from scratch last time there was an upgrade?11:24
stdinnewsense07: yep, just keep updating as normal and you'll get final11:24
newsense07stdin: i mean as far as my sources.list, shouldnt have to change it right11:25
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stdinnewsense07: yeah, same sources11:25
the-ermadept_manager did a pretty good job last time when I upgraded to feisty last time.11:26
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the-ermThat's one think I love about this distro.  You don't have to reinstall from scratch every time there's a release.11:26
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MementoMori_the-erm: I dont like upgrades11:29
MementoMori_I always install from scratch11:29
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spawn57would any of you recommend an hp all in one to use with linux?11:29
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MementoMori_stdin: it works well now!11:29
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kaminixhtop says the kernels eating my CPU. Any reason why this would happend?11:30
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Jucatostdin: wow you're fast11:30
newsense07stdin is the go to guy11:30
Jucatoyes. I realize that11:31
Jucatofinally I can resign ;)11:31
the-ermkaminix: I had a similar issue it was a usb issue.11:31
newsense07lmao, youre the go to guy too11:31
the-ermI was transferring data to an mp3 player.11:31
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the-ermNothing showed up on htop.  I removed the mp3 player, and all was ok.11:32
kaminixOh... I'm having like 30 torrents linked to two USB-drives. :p11:32
kaminixNeed the USB-drives though. Tricky...11:32
Hamrais there a way of repairing or rescuing a system, im currently running from the boot CD11:32
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MementoMori_Hamra: it depends from your problem11:33
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the-ermHamra: Depends how bad you messed it up.11:33
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the-ermDid you delete /boot ?11:33
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MementoMori_Hamra: normally you should (quite often) save all your data11:34
gemidjyin kubuntu gutsy when multimedia key is pressed (say: volume up/down) a nice progressbar appears which overrides the default (and ugly) kde progressbar...is there patch for KDE somewhere?11:34
newsense07gemidjy: i thought feistys was nice11:35
stdinbetter ask in #ubuntu+1 or #kubuntu-devel about hat11:35
gemidjystdin: ok, 10x11:35
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the-ermI'm not 100% sure but maybe you could use osdcat and write a script that does it ... It's been soo long.11:36
X314Z159well.. thats interesting.. when i "mute" the music keeps on playing in my speakers... but it still says "mute on" in the middle of the screen11:36
the-ermX314Z159: I think you need to change it in kmix11:36
X314Z159the-erm: probably.. but its still a bit silly :P11:36
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naught101X314Z159: change the master in kmix to PCM or something11:37
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dromerhi all, I'm having a weird thing here: I have 2 hd's one with all system-files, /home and another large partition. the other is just fillpd with movies. now I wanted to remove the 2nd hd and put it in another pc, but when I booted without it I got a root prompt saying I have to install apt o.O   wth is this and how can I boot without this hd11:38
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newsense07vistakiller: i like the nick, just bought vista so i could play cs source and it blows11:41
dromernewsense07: cs-source plays on XP too doesn't it?:P11:41
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X314Z159dromer: it does11:41
the-ermIt's a good think I don't play games.11:41
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dromerso, anyone on my hd issue? :(11:42
newsense07dromer: yeah but i never payed for an os and figured id get the latest11:42
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Hamralucky you, the only thing that keeps me from removing XP, is that im a game addict11:42
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X314Z159newsense07: its ms we are talking about here. do you really think its going to work with xp?11:43
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newsense07X314Z159: trying not to go too far offtopic but i hope the key will work with the older os11:44
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Hamrai live in lebanon, i got xp for 2$, and have an xp keygen :P, let MS die11:44
X314Z159newsense07: #kubuntu-offtopic11:45
ubotupiracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o11:45
newsense07Hamra: sounds illegalo11:45
newsense07X314Z159: i know the channel, why i said i was going to go too far offtopic11:45
Hamraok, sorry11:46
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X314Z159newsense07:  :P11:46
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stdinfyi: discussion of and illegal activity is not welcome in -offtopic either11:46
newsense07X314Z159: my badd11:47
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X314Z159stdin: I think -offtopic counts as a ubuntu channel, so the message kinda said that11:47
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stdinsome people don't get it, so I say it explicitly11:48
X314Z159stdin: true (:11:48
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newsense07i apologize to the channel as i kinda started it sorry11:49
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newsense07is wine the best choice for running ms apps ?11:55
stdinother than a VM, yeah11:57
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X314Z159my printer programs would not work with wine, made me frustrated.. they had some installthing error11:57
cosmo_is anyone else getting a slow response from the ubuntu forums and help.ubuntu.com?11:57
newsense07stdin: whats the other popular wm environment ?11:57
stdinyou mean vm?11:58
newsense07or emulator, if thats whats its called11:59
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stdinwine is an application compatibility layer, not an emulator11:59
stdinother than wine, you can install VMWare, VirtualBox or Qemu and start windows in that11:59
the-ermI wonder if it works with viruses11:59
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newsense07the-erm: i hope so i never had one12:00
the-ermI use wine for 1 thing, and that's flash.12:00
newsense07the-erm: when i did tech support for bfg sasser got aroung the wifi netowrk and i was the only one to get the hex key cause i didnt run an ms brand os :)12:01
the-ermI think it's easy enough to delete the reg files, and reinstall it.  Haven't tried it yet.12:01
stdinyou use wine for flash?12:01
newsense07the-erm: they have flash for linux12:02
the-ermThey do?12:02
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ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash12:02
newsense07the-erm: yes12:02
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nobbimoin moin ihr lieben12:02
the-ermno not the flash player.  The flash composer.12:02
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:02
newsense07the-erm: might have to use wine for that, not aware of a composer for the best os in the universe(besides unix)12:03
the-ermMy point is ... that's all I use it for.12:04
X314Z159heh, it always gets me when it says removing wine. :P I'm trying to install VM instead and installing my printersoftware with that12:04
wolfgermorning, all.12:05
wolfgerAnybody else having problems with launchpad this morning?12:05
wolfgerI've been trying to get to various pages on it for about an hour12:05
nobbisomebody han help me to install a very small linux on a 1,2 GB harddrive?12:06
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stdinwolfger: #launchpad is the place to report that :)12:06
nacholibrehi folks12:07
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wolfgerstdin: thx12:08
newsense07stdin: thanks again, got wine installed and it works pretty good12:12
jussi01wolfger: its been slow all morning12:12
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newsense07kde4 not going to be in gutsy on the 18'th is it ?12:15
jussi01newsense07: no12:15
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emilsedghnewsense07: not even gutsy+112:15
newsense07jussi01: sorry probobly a dumb?12:15
jussi01newsense07: since its only beta 2....12:16
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newsense07jussi01: compiz-fusion ?12:16
jussi01newsense07: see the link in /topic12:16
jussi01newsense07: yes12:16
newsense07jussi01: thanks12:16
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flaviahi, any reason why the ubuntu servers are down? can anybody give me a mirror for kubuntu gutsy rc (I suppose it's out)12:38
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Daisuke_Idofor any and *all* things gutsy, go to #ubuntu+112:43
Hamrahow do i start rescue mode when booting?12:43
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ksivajiHamra press escape at start up you will see rescue mode12:47
Ash-FoxDoes anybody know how to get XFS to write changes immediately on a specific directory or a mount option that will make it do so? I've looked in the mount manual and I don't see it. Nor can I find it on google.12:48
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TimSJucato: If I have 2 Hard drives, one blank and one with Linux on, can I install windows on the other and have them Dual Boot?01:11
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TimS1 hard drive is SATA the other is IDE if that makes any difference01:12
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dromerhmm, I want to add another IDE disk as storage to my current system, but when I boot with the extra hd in it the bootsequence stops right before the login-prompt and I get into tty1 where I get al kinds of errors if I try to type anything01:16
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giorgo1hi guys. One question. Has somthing be changed for an nfs moutning? I canot establish a nfs conection anymore with kubuntu 7.10?01:20
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abs0lutek0ldhas anyone here done a sucessfull ftir display on kubuntu01:26
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rabxis it my setup perhaps ? - in Firefox (ubuntu) whilst viewing a u-tube clip, I cannot full screen the clip as I can in ff on my win box01:37
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ajschola a todo el mundo, alguien puede leerme??????01:44
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pointwoodshouldn't the new X.org that's included in 7.10 feature hotplugging? == if I connect to my HDTV, it should be detected?01:53
abs0lutek0ldshould being the key word.  computers should do many things.  this however is not the case when seen in the light of the real world01:56
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martin_I suppose this "hotplugging"-feature only applies to input devices (mice and keyboards)01:58
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tsdgeosthere is a new xrandr that allows monitor hotplugging01:59
tsdgeosbut afair that's on X.org 7.3 that is not shipped in ubuntu02:00
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tony_Does anyone know how to fix the "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" error?02:01
pointwoodI thought gutsy would ship with x.org 7.302:01
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pointwoodtsdgeos: wasn't it the plan at some point to use 7.3?02:05
tsdgeosno idea, but i'm using gutsy and i can tell you i have 7.2 here :D02:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ut2004 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:06
pointwoodI'm going to try to upgrade to gutsy when my backup of my home dir finishes02:06
pointwoodand when that fails I'm going to do a clean install :p02:07
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sayersHow would I convert a .avi to play on older dvd players02:19
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dbgltis there any compiz type stuff in the kde upgrade to gusty?02:42
tsdgeosi think not02:43
tsdgeosnot sure02:43
polopoloIs compiz fusion standard vaalible in kubuntu?02:43
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OiPenguinI'm a new k/ubuntu user exploring the various desktops. I've installed kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu 7.10 beta. After removing Kubuntu (with sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop if i remember correctly) the update manager now suggest 80 updates which are all KDE-applications. How do I exclude KDE-applications from the update manager?02:50
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emilsedghOiPenguin: you want to remove all kde applications?02:53
OiPenguinYes. I believe I just did that with the above command?02:53
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emilsedghOiPenguin: no, you should remove kdelibs4c2a package to remove all kde applications i think02:55
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OiPenguinThanks. I'm searching in synaptic now.02:56
xenolis there any way i can make my windows transparent as my taskbar?02:56
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emilsedghxenol: you should enable compositing, best way currently is to install compiz02:57
xenolemilsedgh: no other option?02:58
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emilsedghxenol: there is another option, enable compositing, then go to kwin (default window manager for kde/kubuntu) options and turn on special effects02:59
xenolemilsedgh:  that option is too sluggish for my ati02:59
emilsedghxenol: Window ransparency 'Needs' compositing02:59
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xenolemilsedgh: i will stack to beryl then i guess03:00
emilsedghxenol: and the taskbar's transparency is not real transparency, thats just like a dirtyu hack03:00
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TimSemilsedgh: If I have a windows partition or windows on a seperate hard disk, is it possible to run this through Virtual Box?03:10
TimSOr another emulation program03:10
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hassehow to get rid of this error http://pastebin.com/m1013d81f03:17
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:19
TimShasse: Try sudo dpkg --configure -a03:19
hassestill the same if i afterwards try to install another program via apt-get03:20
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TimSSounds like your missing a system file03:22
hasseohhh sh*t03:22
TimShasse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501195&page=4103:23
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hasseohh sh*t to that im missing a system file03:23
TimSsudo aptitude install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic03:23
hassei just brought a lenovo t61p, and im trying to get the sound to work, thats where it suddenly happend03:24
TimSTry: sudo aptitude install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic03:24
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hassei cant install anything03:24
hassebecause of the error03:24
TimS sudo aptitude purge linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic03:24
TimSThat was reccomended03:25
hassedosent have aptitude installed03:25
TimSWhat version of Ubuntu are you on?03:25
hassekubuntu 7.1003:25
TimSIt would appear to be a known bug03:26
TimSOn the bottom post there is a fix for it03:26
TimSIf your feeling brave :P03:26
TimSNah, that should work03:27
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hassethat worked, thanks, now i just want to get my soundcard to work..*grr*03:29
hasse :)03:29
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hasseanyone have a solution to how to get the soundcard in a t61p lenovo to play03:30
hassehave tried almost every guide03:30
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sbucatinohi! i would like lauch a program at the start ( terminal xsetwacom set etc etc ) how i can do ?03:32
emilsedgh_!autostart | sbucatino03:32
ubotusbucatino: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.03:32
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rogersCan anyone help a linux newb with a codec issue? It's supposedly simple but guides I found are unclear to me.03:33
sbucatinoubotu: ok i will try thanks a lot03:33
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TimSemilsedgh_:  If I have a windows partition or windows on a seperate hard disk, is it possible to run this through Virtual Box?03:33
TimSxD @  ubotu: ok i will try thanks a lot03:34
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sebi_how can i play shockwave files in the internet?03:34
emilsedgh_TimS: dunno :(03:34
sebi_can anybody send me n link?03:34
hassei can see the volume bar , but if i try to play music from xmms, i get this error : "please check that no other program is blocking the soundcard"03:34
emilsedgh_TimS: ubotu is a Bot03:34
TimSI know :P03:34
pag!shockwave | sebi_03:34
ubotusebi_: Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave03:34
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sebi_cool thanx gonne check ist out03:35
TimSI diddnt know shockwave was still in use03:35
rogersHow can I install Amarok MP3 support when Amarok always freezes when I try?03:35
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emilsedgh_rogers: install libxine-extracodecs from adept03:35
TimS!mp3 | rogers03:35
uboturogers: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:35
rogersnow I just have to work on some new player firmware so I can play OGG/FLAC03:36
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hassewhen trying to play music , what does "device is busy" means ?03:45
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TimSThat something else is usinging the music device03:48
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mrksbrdhasse, something is running in the background that u can't see03:48
TimSIt sometimes happens to me when I play a game and am listening to music03:48
TimSAnd it mentions Kio03:49
hassehow to solve the problem ?03:49
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TimSCtrl - Esc and look for a program that might be running using music, for example totem or amarok and kill it.03:50
TimSBe carefull what you kill03:50
TimSYou dont want to break anything03:50
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hassei have to say that i have a lenovo t61p, and kubuntu 7.10, and theres a lot of issues with that setup03:51
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hassenothing looks like it could make any problems03:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:52
TimS!info yakuake03:52
ubotuyakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB03:52
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shadowhywindso heres a question for you guys this morning. Has there been any major issues updating from feisty to the gusty RC?03:52
mrksbrdhasse, u shouldn't have any problems w/running on that pc03:52
TimSshadowhywind: I have heard of a few03:52
shadowhywindTimS oh? *take out the swap issues that seam to happen on ever update* like what?03:53
mrksbrdunless the install went haywire, i've found that sometimes you may have to run the install process several x's03:53
hassehave to say that it's a 7.04 upgrade to 7.1003:53
mrksbrdto get the perfect one03:53
TimSI have seen a few been told to ask in -dev03:53
mrksbrdshadow i'm running gutsy & haven't seen any issues yet03:54
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shadowhywindoh k *maybe i will just wait the week tiill it gets released, hehe03:54
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hassei cant get 7.10 to install from scratch, no gui shows up, neither in safe graphics03:56
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hasseso installs 7.04 and upgrade to 7.10 afterwards, could that be the problem03:56
TimSWhat graphics drivers are you using hasse03:57
hasseTimS, when installing from the live cd ?03:58
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TimSAre you on nv or vesa?03:58
hassethinks it vesa.03:58
hassecant change that on install ?03:59
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TimSIf you boot into a terminal03:59
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hasseshould it be vesa if i boot the livecd into a terminal04:00
TimSYou can dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg04:00
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TimSOh you cant get any graphics on the live cd04:00
TimSthats weird04:00
ekrengelyeh im afraid to upgrade to hoary, my ati card will probably go haywire04:01
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hassewhen booting on safe graphics, it shows the desktop for 5 secs, and return to bootup screen04:01
fred__this is my first install of kubuntu. I'd like to know : how to access to root commands ?04:01
hasseand the xorg.log file, says somethink like, DMI not supported for card04:01
nosrednaekim!sudo | fred__04:01
ubotufred__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:01
hassefred__, sudo file04:01
TimSfred__: Sudo command04:01
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ekrengelwill my xorg.conf change when i upgrade to hoary???04:01
TimSTo hoary??? What are you running at the moment?04:02
nosrednaekimupgrade to HOARY?04:02
TimSWait that doesnt even work04:02
fred__ok. but the system didn't asked me to configure a root pass. is it "root" ?04:02
ekrengeli mean Gutsy04:02
TimSFeisty surely04:02
ekrengelmy bad04:02
ekrengelim on fiesty04:02
TimSAh, no it shouldnt04:02
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TimSfred__: Its the same as your password04:03
ekrengeli have it backed up04:03
hassei could try to boot the livecd, and check the graphic driver and try vesa if nv, and vice versa04:03
mrksbrdfred, when u installed the system, it asked for a password, use that04:03
TimSNot that I am aweare of anyway04:03
ekrengelbut...it took forever to get it working right with my card04:03
fred__TimS: & mrksbrd : ok thanks04:03
TimSIf its backed up you should be fine04:03
TimSGo for it04:03
hassecatch you later ...04:04
hassethe  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg04:04
hassewhat does that do ?04:04
TimSOh it reconfigures your xorg file04:04
TimSSo you can choose the drivers you use04:04
mrksbrdthe example to get software is sudo apt-get install <file>04:04
hassethe -phigh ?04:04
TimSErm, not sure, but you need it :P04:05
ekrengelhow about vmware?  any issues with that when upgrading?04:05
hassehhe okay, ill try, catch you later on .. i hope :)04:05
TimSIts the way it opens it like ls -r04:05
TimSByee  :D04:05
TimSekrengel: Possibly, I am not really sure, best place to ask is #kubuntu+104:06
ekrengeli can't join that04:07
ekrengeldont have access04:07
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TimSOh, doesnt kubuntu have its own one? Silly04:08
e42hi guys04:08
e42i just installed compiz fusion04:08
TimSWelcome to pain04:09
e42then i type compiz --replace ccp04:09
nosrednaekime42: good job....04:09
e42and thats what i get04:09
TimSYou dont need ccp04:09
e42Fatal: Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support04:09
e42Checks indicate that it's impossible to start compiz on your system.04:09
TimSI never did anyway04:09
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TimSHave you got nvidia-glx-new drivers?04:09
nosrednaekimdo you put in ccp? I don't do that.04:09
TimSOr your graphics card drivers04:09
e42TimS, i got ati mobility 970004:09
e42TimS, jest they are instaled04:10
ardchoilleKommander is pretty nice. I've been writing a few kommander scripts from the basg scripts I have written. It's nice to have a small gui for some things.04:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kommander - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:10
TimSNever heard of it XD04:10
e42TimS, thats what i get after fglrxinfo in my console04:10
e42display: :0.0  screen: 004:10
e42OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.04:10
e42OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON 960004:10
e42OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)04:10
e42the joke is04:10
e42i got 970004:11
e42not 960004:11
nosrednaekime42: that doesn't matter.04:11
ardchoilleTimS: It's in the repos:  apt-cache search kommander04:11
nosrednaekime42: you need XGL04:11
ardchoille!info kommander04:11
ubotukommander: visual dialog builder and executor tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3800 kB04:11
fred__sudo chown fred /zzzz/xxx/yyyy/ >>> (how to make it recursive) ?04:11
e42nosrednaekim, how to do it ;/ ?04:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:11
ardchoillefred__: chown -R04:11
nosrednaekimfred__: -R04:11
fred__ok ardchoille04:11
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ardchoillefred__: Same option for chmod04:12
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mrksbrdTimS, is there an easy way to create an icon & assign it to my external usbhdd?  When I plug it in it will open the drive, but doesn't assign an icon along with it04:12
TimSI never managed to figure that out. It wont let me change any of mine04:12
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fred__no, harder : the directory /yyy is my old desktop (from mandriva) how to make it my new desktop (on kubuntu) ?04:13
TimSMy phone, for example, only displays the ipod icon and wont let me change it04:13
fred__now, harder : the directory /yyy is my old desktop (from mandriva) how to make it my new desktop (on kubuntu) ?04:13
Bauldrickgutsy channel?04:13
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fred__(I forgot the "w")04:13
ardchoilleBauldrick: #ubuntu+104:13
nosrednaekim#ubuntu+1 Bauldrick04:13
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fred__none has an idea ?04:15
mrksbrdTimS, u running kubuntu?04:16
mrksbrdk goto the icon u wanna change......right click......properties.......04:17
mrksbrdthen u should see the icon that is assigned....click on that & you should be ale to go thru the menu & pick an icon u want04:17
fred__think I've found my answer ... let's see that with a reboot :)04:18
TimSDoesnt work for me mrksbrd04:18
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nosrednaekimfred__: you mean that was your old home dir?04:18
nosrednaekimTimS: I think you have to change the icon association for the mimetype....04:19
nosrednaekimIDK how to do that though04:19
mrksbrdanyone out there tried Linspire?04:21
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mrksbrdlol why?04:22
TimSNovell are being sued?04:23
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TheDudewhy isnt pidgin in the repo?04:23
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TimSgetdeb has it04:23
nosrednaekimmrksbrd: cause they struck a deal with M$04:24
JucatoTheDude: it's in the gutsy repo04:24
TimSIts in http://www.ansemreport.com/pidgin/repo feisty feisty-backports04:24
TheDudegot ya04:24
TheDudebut why?04:24
TimSdeb http://www.ansemreport.com/pidgin/repo feisty feisty-backports04:24
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TheDudeare they movin everything over to gusty?04:24
TimSdeb-src http://www.ansemreport.com/pidgin/repo feisty feisty-backports04:24
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mrksbrdoh really??????????.....for the proprietary stuff???04:25
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TimSThats a pidgin reppo04:25
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:25
JucatoTheDude: gutsy is the current development version to be released in about 5 days04:25
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TheDudeJucato: I am aware04:26
Jucatoit has the (almost) lastest packages. hence pidgin is there04:26
TheDudeJucato: ok, thanks for the info bro04:26
TheDudeJucato: what I needed to know04:26
JucatoTheDude: you can use the repository TimS gave, but please do take note that it's a 3rd party repo04:27
Jucatowe can't/don't fully support it if it breaks or breaks something...04:27
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Hamrathis morning when i started the computer, kde didnt start, so i typed  kdm, it said that it isnt installed and i should apt-get it, kde is running, but the taskbar at the bottom is not working, and the whole screen looks weird  and different, will kubuntu-default-settings do the trick?04:29
nosrednaekimTheDude: make sure you install gaim first though... so that you have all the dependencies04:29
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nosrednaekimHamra: did you install kde4?04:30
TheDudenosrednaekim: does apt not check all depends?04:30
Jucatoit does04:30
nosrednaekimTheDude: ah.. right... adding a repository... never mind04:30
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TheDudenice thinkg about it not being an RPM ;)04:31
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kilraeis it inadvisable to connect directly to the internet with a default kubuntu desktop install?04:31
Jucatokilrae: hm?04:32
kilraeas far as i can tell, there are no servers running and no open ports04:32
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ardchoillekilrae: No, in fact kubuntu is one of the mosre secure distros due to not having any ports open or world-facing services installed by default.04:32
JucatoTheDude: yum, libzypp, drakconf, and apt-rpm do dependency resolution, just as apt does. rpm (the program) doesn't, but so does dpkg04:33
kilraealright, it's been years since i've not had a hardware firewall and apparently i've grown paranoid04:33
Jucatokilrae: it's quite safe. if you are still worried, you can use a firewall04:33
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TheDudewhere is the k managment utils on kbuntu04:34
ardchoilleTheDude: kcontrol04:34
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JucatoSystem Settings04:34
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kilraekcontrol isn't as pretty :P04:35
ardchoilleI don't even consider System Settings an app, it's a poor rip off of kcontrol.04:35
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Jucatotough luck, it's the default in KDE 4.0 :)04:36
ardchoilleI mean kcontrol did the job. Why did someone go an reinvent the wheel?04:36
Jucatobut he did ask "for kubuntu"04:37
TheDudehow the hell do I add http://ubuntu.org.ua/ getdeb/  to the repo? what do I need after it?04:37
nosrednaekimardchoille: because system settings has more otptions04:37
Jucatowhy does anyone reinvent the wheel? is there a rule that says no one can't try to make something different?04:37
ardchoillenosrednaekim: ss has more options that kcontrol? Is there something in ss that isn't in kcontrol?04:38
nosrednaekimI always like to say that Harvey Firestone reinvented the wheel..04:38
ardchoillenosrednaekim: lol04:38
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nosrednaekimardchoille: restrcicted-manager? disk and fielsystems?04:38
Jucatonosrednaekim: um.. those aren't part of system settings04:38
nosrednaekimJucato: they are in it ;)04:38
Jucatoand can be used inside kcontrol as well04:38
Jucatothey are kcm's (kcontrol modules)04:39
nosrednaekimso its just the interface.04:39
Jucatothey can be used by any "shell" that embeds kcm's04:39
Jucatoand kcontrol and system settings are just shells04:39
ardchoillenosrednaekim: disks and filesystems is in kcontrol04:39
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ardchoilleJucato: Ah, that explains the use of kcmshell privacy04:40
JucatoI can understand people not liking system settings because it's broken or ugly or whatever... can't understand the reasoning of "reinvented the wheel"04:40
Jucatoif nobody "reinvented the wheel", there'd be no room for innovation or change04:40
Jucato!offtopic | Jucato04:40
ardchoilleWell, kcontrol has everything.. seems like ss has the same stuff04:40
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ardchoilleoh well04:41
Jucatosystem settings *can* have everything04:41
Jucatoit was just decided early on not to overload system settings w/ duplicate settings04:41
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Jucatoand they *do* have the same stuff04:41
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ardchoilleWait, dolphin and system settings are default in kde4? I thought only gnome got worse with each release.04:42
ardchoilleI'll shutup now04:42
Jucatoyes please04:42
alkad_mzuhello all, just installed ubuntu for the first time.04:43
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emilsedghardchoille: i dont like dolphin as defalt fm too, but no, i dont think it makes kde worse04:43
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TheDudelmao now adept is all fucked04:43
TheDudeI cant getg anything04:43
pag!language | TheDude04:44
ubotuTheDude: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.04:44
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Jucato(it doesn't matter. any change/new app = "reinventing the wheel" or "imitating Vista" today)04:44
Jucatobah I better quit it04:44
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:45
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TheDudethe apt database cannot be opened04:46
waylandbillJucato: imitating is okay. open source doesn't mean it has to be necessarily unique04:46
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nosrednaekimTheDude:  see above ^^04:47
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:47
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TheDudestilll broke04:47
TheDudewhat a joke04:47
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waylandbillTheDude: in a terminal, what does apt-get installing the package you want output?04:48
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Hamrahow do i restart kde? is it possible to close kde and not the whole system?04:49
ardchoilleHamra: yes, log out04:50
TheDudeE: Type 'http://ubuntu.org.ua/getdeb/deb' is not known on line 43 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list04:50
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Tm_TTheDude: sourceline has to start with deb in this case I assume04:51
waylandbillTheDude: comment that line out of that file (or fix it) and then apt-get update and then all should be fine.04:51
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ardchoilleTheDude: I think you're missing a space there: deb http://ubuntu.org.ua/ getdeb/04:52
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lontraanyone know where the mathematical sign 'does not equal' is in koffice?04:53
lontraer ... kword04:53
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TheDudeit added a brunch of stuff to my sources.list04:55
BigDaddyhey all, is there a way to load Kontact (or Kmail in paticular) into a "safemode"? It crashed on me and now I cannot restart it because it keeps crashing04:55
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nosrednaekimBigDaddy: can't restart KDE?04:57
BigDaddyno, I cannot restart Kontact04:57
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BigDaddyAs soon as I try to load it, it just crashes04:58
TheDudewhats a BREAK: install?04:58
BigDaddyhere is the report: http://pastebin.com/d3cb4135604:58
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TheDudeBREAK (install)04:59
eduborgessalguem fala portuques poraki?04:59
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nosrednaekimTheDude: it means it will remove a critical package05:01
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BigDaddyWhat I was doing at the time of the crash was adding a button to the Main toolbar. Now I cannot restart the application05:02
bosko_Hola gente, esto funciona?05:02
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: ah...try erasing the .kde/cache/kontactrc05:02
nosrednaekimumm .kde/config/kontactrc05:02
BigDaddyWait, will that erase my emails?05:02
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: no... that file is in .kde/share/kontact05:04
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s4xxoni tried to make a fsck -A , but it was telling me that my '/' partition is mounted and it could damage it while checking for errors, how can i do a check disk on my linux partition ? or at the next reboot05:04
BigDaddynosrednaekim: should that be cache-"computername"?05:05
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nosrednaekimBigDaddy: no.. sorry, I meant "config"05:05
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: umm lol...".kde/share/config05:06
BigDaddyhmmm... I don't have a config05:06
BigDaddyohh...I'll lokk there05:06
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BigDaddynosrednaekim: Sweet, that did it. Now why did that fix it? Do you know?05:09
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nosrednaekimBigDaddy: thats the file that holds the configuration for the user interface05:09
fred__hello. where may I find the config files of kopete ?05:09
ardchoillefred__: ~/.kde/config/kopet*  ?05:10
pagfred__, ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc05:10
ardchoillefred__: ~/.kde/apps/kopet*  ?05:10
nosrednaekimfred__: .kde/share/config or .kde/share/apps/kopete05:10
BigDaddynosrednaekim: What is really odd about this is that the changes I made are still there. That make no sense. I would have guessed that it would have defaulted05:11
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: weird :)05:12
BigDaddynosrednaekim: Well anyways, thanks for that help.05:12
nosrednaekimyeah... NP05:12
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BigDaddyDoes anyone here have their /home folder as a seperate partition?05:13
fred__BigDaddy: I do05:13
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BigDaddyfred__: How do you know what size to make it?05:13
fred__BigDaddy: I did the biggest for me and a little small for the others ;)05:14
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BigDaddyfred__: I am still new to Linux (about a month and a half) so I am still learning the file structure. Is the /home folders where all the apps config's are stored as well?05:15
BigDaddySo I will have the configs, but not the apps whenever I do an upgrade or reinstal05:15
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: your configs... yes... they are all in "."folders.05:15
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: if you keep your home DIR yes,05:15
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nosrednaekimBigDaddy: yeah.. I have my home on a different partition too... much much safer05:16
dhq_has anyone got vmware to work with gutsy05:16
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BigDaddySo generally speaking, should the home folder be the biggest partition?05:16
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BigDaddyI currently have the /home set up as /home/wife ... /home/me /home/shared05:17
BigDaddyIn that shared home there is all our music and pictures and so on. Should I have that stuff somewhere else?05:17
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nosrednaekimBigDaddy: no... thats the right place for it05:19
nosrednaekimBigDaddy:  and yes, it should be the largest partition for the average user's dektop (servers are different)05:20
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: the install partition need not be over 10 gigs05:20
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BigDaddynosrednaekim: that's exactly what I wanted to know05:20
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nosrednaekimdhq_: #ubuntu+105:21
BigDaddyhmmm, what about games? They can get pretty big too. What if I wanted to play CnC? I think it's install is like 4GB. Where would it's install go? System or Home?05:21
nosrednaekimhmm true... it  would go into /usr probably.05:22
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: although there is a way to install it on your home DIR.05:22
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fred__mfff ... tryed to recover my kopete contact list and users (from mandriva) ... seems I failed. may someone help ? thanks05:22
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nosrednaekimBigDaddy: if its a wine game, it will be in your home DIR05:22
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BigDaddynosrednaekim: you are a fountain of useful information05:23
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nosrednaekimfred__: did you just copy over your whole home directory?05:23
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fred__nosrednaekim: yes I did05:23
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BigDaddybrbr... kid needs help05:24
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nosrednaekimfred__: and it didn't automatically import them?05:24
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fred__nosrednaekim: seems not. kopete asks username and the whole informations05:24
piccadoes kubuntu desktop come with the full openldap installed but just no daemon to start the server?05:24
nosrednaekimfred__: huh.... are all your other configs working? like bookmarks?05:24
fred__nosrednaekim: didn't tryed yet ...05:25
fred__may I change userinfo of the dirs ?05:25
nosrednaekimtry it05:25
nosrednaekimchange the what?05:25
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fred__nosrednaekim: I had a mandriva. I installed kubuntu (first time). My old /home is into /media/hda6 ... I copy from /media/hda6/.kde/share/apps/kopete to /home/.kde/ ...05:27
fred__i thought it should work05:27
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nosrednaekimfred__: was hda6 a separate /home?05:27
fred__nosrednaekim: yes (under mdv)05:28
fred__nosrednaekim: I wasn't sure how to do so into kubuntu05:28
nosrednaekimfred__: you can use that /home for this install too...05:28
fred__nosrednaekim: how ? when I tryed, kubuntu told me "going to format /hda6"05:28
fred__so I stop05:29
nosrednaekimfred__: in the partitioner, you just select that partition, press edit, and set the mount point to /home and set it no to format.05:29
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fred__nosrednaekim: oook ... Gona re install the whole now ! thanks05:29
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fred__guys, hope to see you soon (after re install kubuntu in a good way ;) ) ... Pray for France to win at rugby tonight ;)05:31
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piccadoes kubuntu desktop come with the full openldap installed but just no daemon to start the server?05:31
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BigDaddynosrednaekim: wait... did I read that right. Your /home can be transfered from distro to distro?05:34
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: indeed, and you can have your /home shared BETWEEN distros05:35
nosrednaekimwhich are installed simultaneously05:35
BigDaddywait wait wait.... are you serious???05:35
nosrednaekim(but of course not running simultaneously05:35
BigDaddyOMG, that is fricken awesome!05:35
flaccidwell they could run simultaneously yes05:36
BigDaddyNo wonder linux nerds can try out so many distros05:36
BigDaddyflaccid: you talking about virtualization?05:36
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: oh yeah.. I have 3 distros installed here, and they all look the and act the same cause of my settings :)05:36
nosrednaekimare shared.05:36
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: yeah... thats why *WE* can ;)05:36
BigDaddynosrednaekim: as a long time windows user, I can tell you that is a feature that needs to be told to the masses05:36
Chousukemost of them won't understand it05:37
BigDaddyI am a proud nerd, I am just not to the Linux Nerd stage.  Yet05:37
flaccidthe masses don't have a use for it05:37
BigDaddyflaccid: YOU DON'T THINK SO?05:37
BigDaddycrap, sorry05:38
Chousukeflaccid: yes they do05:38
Chousukeflaccid: they just don't know it05:38
BigDaddyhit caps on accident, did not mean to yell05:38
flaccidthe masses generally don't even use linux05:38
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Chousukeyes, but they would still like a separated Documents and Settigns in windows too05:38
nosrednaekimyeah... Linux has some pretty sweet features that we just take for granted :)05:38
Chousukebeing able to separate /home is a feature in all Unixes and unix-likes. :)05:39
BigDaddyflaccid: You know how often Window users reinstall? Having that ability would be awesom05:39
flaccidum documents and settings is the equiv of /home ...05:39
Chousukeflaccid: yes05:39
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ChousukeIt's not really possible in Windows because windows does some pretty idiotic things05:39
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ChousukeI *have* done it on windows05:39
Chousukeit was painful05:39
M_A_KIs there something like Pine for email for feisty?05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:40
ChousukeOn unix systems I just mount an empty partition to /home and create my user. done :P05:40
flaccidwell its been working for years with roaming profiles on dif versions of windows in corporate situations so um yeah...05:40
BigDaddyWindows does do some stupid things, hence tell me what I want. BS05:40
Chousukeflaccid: roaming profiles are different.05:40
M_A_KTm_T : i already tried apt-get install pine... Is there another solution?  I want a simple interface.  I have postfix installed, but don't like using "mail"05:40
BigDaddyI am still just floored that you can share your /home dir between distro's. I can be a total distro slut if I do that.05:41
nosrednaekimM_A_K: mutt?05:41
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Chousukeflaccid: the thing is, on Linux it's so simple it's practically a side-effect of how certain stuff works :)05:41
flaccidwell yes they are. but a profile stored on an AD server is the same thing as a local profile in terms of the application data used by programs etc.05:41
M_A_Knever heard of it, I will have a looksee05:41
BigDaddyCan I turn my current /home into a new partition?05:41
Chousukeflaccid: there was no need to explicitly design /home to be like that.05:41
ChousukeBigDaddy: sure05:41
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flaccidChousuke, do you actually have a point05:42
spirooWill Deamon-tools or something like it be developed for Linux/Ubuntu?05:42
BigDaddyOMG... the implications are staggering05:42
flaccidi understand how it all works Chousuke05:42
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: lol05:42
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ChousukeBigDaddy: make a new partition, mount it to /something, copy home to it, (delete old contents of /home afterwards), mount new partition on /home05:42
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nosrednaekimChousuke: he already has a separate /home05:43
nosrednaekim(I think)05:43
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Chousukeoh, he does? heh05:43
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BigDaddyno, My /home is not on a seperate partition yet.05:44
Chousukespiroo: no daemon tools for Linux05:44
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Chousukespiroo: you can mount .iso-images though05:44
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: oh.. ok.05:44
M_A_KCool, mutt will do just fine.05:44
BigDaddyWhere is a good place for me to research this?05:44
ChousukeBigDaddy: you only need to understand how mount points work05:45
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Chousukebasically, if you have a partition with the content of /home on it, you can mount said partition on /home, and then your /home will be "separate"05:45
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nosrednaekimM_A_K: I hear its what Linus Torvalds himslef uses05:46
spirooChousuke: I know, I wonder if someone will develop some similar application for it.05:46
Chousukespiroo: probably not.05:46
Chousukespiroo: mounting ISOs is enough for most things.05:46
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BigDaddywhat about defining where my /home is?05:46
spirooNot for me unfortunatly05:46
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ChousukeBigDaddy: /home is /home05:46
ChousukeBigDaddy: why would you change it :)05:46
BigDaddyhmm, I think I am not saying this right...05:47
Chousukesay you have two disks05:47
ChousukeA and B05:47
flaccidyou can symlinke /home if you need to05:47
Chousukeit's entirely possible that / uses the entirety of A05:47
Chousukeand /home uses all of B05:47
BigDaddyoh wow...05:47
BigDaddyI could do that easily. 30GB HD for system, 200GB for users05:48
Chousukeyou can also just make a directory under your home dir, say /home/bdaddy/data and then mount the big B disk under that05:48
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Chousukeand all the space will be available in /home/bdaddy/data after that05:48
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nosrednaekimlol... and when you make a user.. you can set his /home to be pretty much anywhere.05:49
BigDaddyOK, so the fact that home appears under / in the file manager doesn't meant that it is on the same disk?05:49
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: not at all.05:49
ChousukeBigDaddy: it might even be a network drive05:49
Chousukeor an SSH mount if you use sshfs :P05:49
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: run "df" which will show you all your mounted partitions and where they are mounted.05:49
nosrednaekimor your google mail account if you use gfs(or whatever its called) ;)05:50
BigDaddyChousuke: a netowork user profile? jesus05:50
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ChousukeBigDaddy: a simple thing to do05:50
ChousukeBigDaddy: but it doesn't have to be /home. it can be anything05:51
BigDaddyChousuke: I just can't believe the flexibility05:51
BigDaddyI am looking at my mount points05:51
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flaccidall this comes from unix :)05:53
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Chaos_KingI just installed kubuntu a few days ago, right now i wanna do something as root (SU) but I don't have a password which works05:55
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ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:55
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:56
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nosrednaekimthat is soo Zen...lol05:56
BigDaddySomeone has seen the matrix too many times05:56
Chaos_Kingbut how do I use Sudo in a console?05:56
BigDaddythere is no root password05:56
BigDaddysudo <command>05:57
syndailysudo passwd root05:57
flaccidread the links pasted ..05:57
BigDaddysyndaily: you  can do that?05:57
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syndailyyep, then set your pass05:57
BigDaddyenter your password before the command05:57
nosrednaekimanyway...have fun ya'll! I have to run..05:57
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BigDaddynosrednaekim: thanks again for all the help05:58
nosrednaekimoh yeah :)05:58
nosrednaekimand there is sudo bash.. :)05:58
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nosrednaekimBigDaddy: yep... no problemo. Have fun.05:59
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BigDaddyyou betcha05:59
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BigDaddywell, I need to feed the kids. Thanks for all the info guys. I can't wait to try this stuff out.06:01
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WHamrahow do i stop a program from running on start up?06:04
flaccidstart up as in boot or login as user?06:05
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axel_sHi, since the last gutsy update I cant use k3b anymore06:06
axel_sOnly one line in dcopserver file !:06:06
axel_sDCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed networkIdsList argument is NULL06:07
axel_sOnly one line in dcopserver file !:06:07
axel_sDCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed networkIdsList argument is NULL06:07
axel_sDCOPServer self-test failed.06:07
axel_skdeinit: DCOPServer could not be started, aborting.06:07
axel_sERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.06:07
flaccid!pastebin > axel_s06:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:07
flaccidWHamra, check session manager in kcontrol - by default programs left open from last session are opened again06:07
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flaccid!autostart | WHamra06:07
ubotuWHamra: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.06:07
flaccidthere is also autostart06:07
WHamraok, thnx06:08
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lupullinux ruuuulss!!!!06:11
lupulbut does anyone know where does envy download files?06:11
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roflcopter_Is there a channel somewhere for General chatting? Or one to talk about BitTorrent?06:14
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flaccidthere was #freenode-social and there is #kubuntu-offtopic06:15
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mas195can ne1 help me with a setting up a wireless adapter problem06:32
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thetyrI've been having a problem with my Kubuntu 7.10 installation. Whenever I login, it immediately restarts the X Server bringing me back to the KDM screen.06:35
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RurouniJonesthetyr: Checked harddisk space left?06:44
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RurouniJonesThat happened to me when I ran out06:44
WaltzingAlong!gutsy | thetyr06:44
thetyrYeah I have well over 100 gigs free. I created a new username as well thinking it might be a script in my home directory, however it won't let me login the new one saying "failed to load KStartupManager"06:44
ubotuthetyr: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information06:45
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thetyrI should go there for support waltzingalong?06:46
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thetyrI think my problem is distro independent and lies with a problem in KDE though...I don't mind deleting my home directory since it was a relatively new installation and don't really have much of value there.06:47
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jussi01!es | tito_06:53
ubotutito_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:53
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tehkWhat is the best way to composite kubuntu/gutsy?06:58
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contrast83tehk: Compiz-Fusion?06:59
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thetyrdoes anyone know where scripts are normally located in the home directory?07:00
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nosrednaekimthetyr: anywhere you want07:01
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:01
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thetyrwell my problem is I need to delete them because one of them is causing my X server to crash after login07:01
nosrednaekimthetyr: ah... what is it called?07:02
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thetyrI don't know...but that's the only reason I can think of that would be causing my issue (x server restarts whenever I login, bringing me back tot he kdm screen -> i created a new account too but it says that it can't load KStartUpManger)07:03
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wolferinecan you burn a CD movie using kmediaplayer?07:04
wolferineor is it just for DVDs?07:04
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thetyrwolferine - I'm not sure, but most people just use K3B07:05
eljefe__I want to test the version upgrade to Gutsy; is there a channel specific for this?07:05
contrast83eljefe__: #ubuntu+107:06
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DevideZerokubuntu 7.10 have alot new things ?07:07
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thetyrDevideZero: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/RC/Kubuntu07:08
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sstchurAnyone know a thing or two about setting up samba?  I've been trying to hit up the samba channel, but it's just dead right now07:08
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WaltzingAlongthetyr: yes it may be independent of gutsy but for now visit #ubuntu+107:11
thetyrwaltzing, i tried but no one responded07:11
DevideZeroi have request shipit kubuntu cd ( 1 32 bit cd and 1 64 it cd ) i will get beta version on the cd or the will wait to the stable and the will send to me ?07:11
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sstchurhow do I run that system update tool?07:12
nosrednaekimDevideZero: they will wait07:12
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DevideZeromaybe someday sanyptic will be the default kubuntu package manager?07:14
WaltzingAlongDevideZero: i doubt it07:16
nosrednaekimDevideZero: doubt it07:16
Level15that'd be like having kubuntu use gnome... well, not quite, but almost07:16
WaltzingAlongconsidering it would make best sense for the kubuntu gui package manager to be kde/qt based07:17
DevideZerowhat wrong with sanyptic ? i think its better07:18
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WaltzingAlongDevideZero: what is wrong with it for kde? is that it is based on gtk so all of the necessary gtk libraries would need to be included.07:18
WaltzingAlongDevideZero: perhaps you can give aptitude a try. it has a ncurses interface as well.07:18
emilsedghi hope adept will get some love from usability people, i hate to see a gtk+ application in kubuntu07:18
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WaltzingAlongDevideZero: so perhaps you could start on a qt4 port of synaptic, matching the interface?07:19
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DevideZerowhat ?07:20
hellhoundhow do you get a list of services for update-rc.d?07:20
WaltzingAlong!info bum | hellhound07:20
ubotuhellhound: bum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.8-1 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 528 kB07:20
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WaltzingAlongDevideZero: if you would like to see synaptic in kubuntu, perhaps you could be working on either improving adept or some such thing.07:20
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DevideZeroWaltzingAlong , i dont understand what is the problem , i have installed synaptic i kubuntu 7.04 with no problems ...07:24
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emilsedghDevideZero: the problem is that snaptic is a gtk+ application...07:24
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Tm_Thi kids07:29
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sub[t] rnlgreets tm07:29
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nosrednaekimhi Tm_T07:30
WaltzingAlongdevidezero: yes you can install synaptic in kubuntu. it will work. they are all interfaces to apt. you can use aptitude or apt-get or dpkg from with the cli.07:30
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Level15any kde wizard around?07:31
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Tm_TLevel15: instead of asking that, perhaps tell your problem if there iss any07:32
sub[t] rnljust got done setting up nfs on my old box07:32
sub[t] rnlturned it into a media server07:32
Level15need to launch an application via dcop07:32
sub[t] rnlim excited :P07:32
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Tm_TLevel15: does kdcop help with that?07:35
Tm_Toh, nice07:35
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sstchurok, so when trying to do a version upgrade, I get "could not verify the integrity of this upgrader application."  How do I work around this?07:36
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WaltzingAlongsstchur: check the website. http://kubuntu.org07:41
Myrth[home] hi, on my thinkpad x40 gutsy have this problem - when close the lid and reopen, the whole screen goes down by about 20px and top space is fliled with memory junk. to fix i have to switch to console and back. anyone knows about this problem?07:43
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makuseruhow can i burn a MP3 cd on K3B07:46
WaltzingAlongmakuseru: either you want a data cd with mp3 files or an audio cd the source of which can be mp3 files07:47
makuserubut an audio cd holds alot less than an mp3 cd07:47
makuseruso if i do it as a Data CD and just put mp3s itll play in an MP3 CD player07:47
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kristjan_command to see into which usergroups does user belong?07:49
sub[t] rnlmakuseru: yes, making a normal data cd with mp3's should work for mp3 players07:49
frank_kristjan_: groups username07:50
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sub[t] rnlmakuseru: make sure you have libk3b2 and libmad0 and libmad0-dev installed, if you havn't already07:51
sub[t] rnlmakuseru: mp3 cd's are essentially just a data cd anyway07:51
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[seb] hi can any one help me solve this error with ndiswrapper on kubuntu 6.06 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40555/07:53
kristjan_command to add user x to vboxusers07:54
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[seb] any one?07:54
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sub[t] rnlkristjan_: adduser x -g vboxusers07:56
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[seb] do u guys have any idea on solving this on kubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40555/07:57
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sub[t] rnl!patience07:57
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:57
kristjan_sub[t] rnl: what's the difference between sudo adduser <usr> vboxusers ?07:57
sub[t] rnlkristjan_: no idea :P07:57
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sub[t] rnl[seb] : what do you see when you do ndiswrapper -l?08:01
medivhQuick question: Anyone happen to know WHERE you can modify the scroll bars? The updown buttons at the bottom I find rather annoying. I've been looking in the System Settings and I can't seem to find it.08:03
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sub[t] rnlmedivh: for what application?08:04
medivhsub[t] rnl, is it not possible to modify them in general? For all windows?08:04
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sub[t] rnlmedivh: I'm guessing you have already looked in kcontrol -> appearance08:06
cathedracan I ask a question?08:06
sub[t] rnlcathedra: of course you can08:06
cathedraI am having problems trying to burn a floppy with K3B :-(08:06
medivhsub[t] rnl, yes, I'm looking at it right now if I've been missing it?08:07
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sub[t] rnlmedivh: no, I havn't looked myself, was just assuming it could be done there08:07
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sub[t] rnlmedivh: each application might handle them differently though, for example firefox handles its own scroll bar theme differently than say konsole would08:09
cathedrahwy isn't my floppyy showing up on k3b? I need to burn something08:09
chris_how do I get the volume key's to control the sound up and down?08:09
chris_I use the PCM channel but so far I can only mute /unmute sound08:09
medivhsub[t] rnl, well it appears that the colour scheme setup...overrides it? Because now firefox as the little bottom arrows as well, I suppose it's fine, I just never use the bottom arrow down there lol08:09
medivhSeemed like it was useless fluff.08:10
sub[t] rnlhehe08:10
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sub[t] rnlchris_: you might want to look at keytouch to setup your keyboard.  sudo apt-get install keytouch08:14
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dick-richardsonanyone got the bluegears b-enspirer working? I've build the drivers from the website as per the included instruction (as root) and still nothing08:20
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mluserIs it possible to disable the switch user feature on the screen saver?08:24
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ScorpKingi'm trying to set the screen resolution to 1024x768 but i have to scroll the screen to see it all. i think the HorizSync and VertRefresh is out. any idea what those should be?08:28
ScorpKingit's on 20-64 and 43-60 atm.08:29
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Ben_Csis there a manager to install a kde theme i downloaded?08:31
ScorpKingit's in kcontrol08:32
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Ben_CsScorpKing: u mean : MENU -> SYSTEM SETTINGS ->LOOK & FEEL ?08:33
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ScorpKingpress <alt>+<f2> and type kcontrol08:33
ScorpKingApearance & Themes --> Theme Manager.08:34
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Ben_CsScorpKing: i see. weird it aint in menu08:34
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ScorpKingheh. i don't have a standard menu so i'm not sure where to find it. :)08:35
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alarmhello, which is the command to reconfigure xserver ?08:38
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ubuntu_LiMaO its just me passing bordem lol08:39
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ubuntu_eh <lee>08:40
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ScorpKinghehe. mb08:40
ubuntu_I found out something peculiar about this cd rom08:40
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ubuntu_if you load Kubuntu in a norma stetting, you don't get to sign in, but if you use the OEM stetting, and then click prepare for distubution, after the restart it gives you an error then procededs to the sign up, after that yo uhave access to the full system08:42
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ubuntu_hmm any ideas on why this might be the case?08:43
ubuntu_any one?08:43
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ubuntu_erg my screens shrinking lol08:44
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kristjan_O_o people are genuinely interested in ubuntu, then they have a change to use it08:47
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Ben_Csso i get it right? in kde-look.org, under "themes" tab, "theme manager" are themes for the kde manager, and all the others are just icons that i have to arrange manualy into a theme? (no .theme file)?08:48
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:49
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Hamraone thing i learned from winxp is that changing themes causes loads of problems, so im really not willing to mess with themes on kubuntu!08:50
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sub[t] rnlmessing with kubuntu themes is a must imo.  You want to make you linux box your own.  Its liberating :P08:52
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NightBirdyeah, the nice thing about kde is most programs don't assume you have a single display style08:53
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mluser Is it possible to disable the switch user feature on the screen saver?08:54
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sub[t] rnlmluser: never tried, let me look around08:55
mlusersub[t] rnl: thanks :)08:55
Hamrai guess you have a point when you say liberating, but i always end up with the screen uglier than the original one, maybe its something to do with my taste :P08:55
sub[t] rnlHamra: lol08:55
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sub[t] rnlHamra: I think I have ah "fugly-block" plugin you can compile..08:56
sub[t] rnl:D08:56
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sub[t] rnlmluser: what screen saver are you looking at? None of the default kde screen savers appear to have a switch user on them09:02
Hamrawhenever adept downloads upgrades, and is about to start installing i click "show details" and see09:02
HamraX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16709:03
Hamra  Major opcode:  14409:03
Hamra  Minor opcode:  309:03
Hamra  Resource id:  0x009:03
HamraFailed to open device09:03
HamraX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16709:03
Hamra  Major opcode:  14409:03
Hamra  Minor opcode:  309:03
mlusersub[t] rnl: any screensaver, currently I'm running the blank screensaver.. and I want to keep others from switching to their accounts when I have the screensaver locked09:03
Hamra  Resource id:  0x009:03
HamraFailed to open device09:03
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ardchoille!baddevice | Hamra09:03
ubotuHamra: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors09:03
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ardchoillesub[t] rnl: I think he's talking about when he locks the screen, the "switch user" dialog comes up when you move the mouse.09:04
mlusersub[t] rnl: the password prompt also has a 'switch user' button that allows others to log into their accounts.. it start a new X display09:04
medivhI think I might go back to using dapper...09:04
sub[t] rnlahh, i see09:04
medivhI'm having such an amazing amount of annoying bugs on Fiesty that it makes me sad :(09:04
ardchoillemluser: In the screensaver properties, uncheck the box that say "Lock screen"09:04
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mluserardchoille: then I cant lock my screen09:05
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ardchoillemedivh: What bugs? I've been running Feisty since it was released and I don't see any bugs09:05
ardchoillemluser: the switch user is part of the lock09:05
mluserardchoille: so there is no way to disable the switch user feature?09:06
mluserand still allow me to lock my screen?09:06
sub[t] rnloh, theres always a way09:07
medivhardchoille, well I've had to reformat it twice, because the first time the actual format just straight didn't work...I chalked it up to bad download, went back on windows redownloaded the ISO and tried again. Worked the second time...for about an hour, then I get a black screen, with a white blinking console cursor.09:07
ardchoillemluser: Not uless you hack the kdescreensaver09:07
mluserok.. thanks09:07
medivhIt refused to start up, I was able to mount the installation from the liveCD09:07
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medivhbut it wouldn't start up :P Which annoyed me, but I got over it and just reformatted again.09:07
kaminixWhere can I read about all the things happening with Konqueror 4? I want to know if I'll be able to replace Swiftfox with Konqueror for KDE 4 :p09:08
medivhIt's been working fine until all of a sudden I log in and my fonts are tiny, like...Illegibly, so I go under my appearances and make them larger, because anything lower than 12pt is unreadable, but now I just restarted and 12 point is for some reason...Huge.09:08
medivhMaking icons on my desktop to my devices was annoying, instead of using the dropdown, I had to type them in manually, because for some reason every time I tried to dropdown it would reset to some default.09:09
medivhI would call those, indeed, bugs :P09:09
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medivhI'd been using dapper since it was released and I never had such problems. As much as I WANT to use Fiesty, it just appears that it hates me O_O09:10
sea4everIs there anything like "mspaint" ?09:11
ardchoillemedivh: Have you installed anything outside the repos? or compiled apps or used someone else's scripts?09:11
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sub[t] rnlmedivh: I have seen this happen on my box (fiesty) a few times.  Simply /etc/init.d/kdm restart and it corrected it.  Are you using Beryl?09:12
medivhardchoille, Nope...well I tried one, but it failed to make every time I tried it so I just said "Screw it" and forgot about it, because I had all the requirements it just...wouldn't make.09:12
ScorpKingi dont have xf86config. how do i reconfigure X?09:12
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medivhsub[t] rnl, No :(09:12
sub[t] rnlScorpKing: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:12
ScorpKingthanks. :D09:13
ardchoilleScorpKing: You'll need sudo for that09:13
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ScorpKinghehe. i know. :P09:13
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ardchoillemedivh: You probably couldn't "make" because you didn't install build-essential first?09:13
hasse_hey, i have installed kubuntu 7.10 on my thinkpad t61p, have no sound09:13
ardchoillehasse_: join #ubuntu+109:13
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medivhardchoille, oh well yes, that's probably why *lol*.09:14
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medivhEither way I'm sure that's not the spawn of all my bugs.09:14
ardchoillemedivh: That tells me that those "bugs" could be user error of some sort :P09:14
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medivhardchoille, I may not know Linux as well as I should considering how long I've been using it, but I certainly know what not to touch, for fear of damaging the system.09:15
hasse_ardchoille, thought that it was for ubuntu users only, and not kubuntu09:15
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ardchoillehasse_: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for all development releases09:16
Hamrais there anything similar to the windows task manager or process explorer?09:17
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ardchoilleHamra: menu > System > KSysGuard09:17
spirooHow do I install a .rpm-package?09:18
ardchoillespiroo: You don't. kubuntu uses .debpackages.09:18
ardchoillespiroo: and converting an rpm to deb is dangerous09:18
ardchoillespiroo: Which app are you looking for?09:18
spirooOkay, but I downloaded on adobe.com and they do not have as .deb.09:18
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spirooI am looking for Adobe reader09:19
rohanin kubuntu gutsy rc, my raise and lower volume keys are not working as expected. what component do i file a bug against ?09:19
spirooand I do not wanna use kpdf.09:19
ardchoillerohan: join #ubuntu+109:19
medivhrohan, gutsy help in #ubuntu+109:19
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rohanbut no one was replying there so :P09:20
medivhaww where's ubotu >.<09:20
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:20
medivhThere we go, he's just slow lol09:21
ardchoillespiroo: I seem to remember an acrobat plugin being in the repos09:21
rohanmedivh: i know i know ..09:21
rohandid i commit that big a crime !09:22
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medivhrohan, No...Just saying don't be so antsy ;) If there's one thing working on computers as long as I have has taught me: Patience keeps you from setting them on fire.09:22
rohanmedivh: no, i thought maybe some kubuntu gutsy user might be here. after all, technically there should be a #kubuntu+1 too ;)09:23
medivhRohan, True, *Shrug* I'm sure a lot of them are in here, but the help is over there.09:23
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spirooardchoille: OKay thanks I look there09:24
medivhAnywho, in the spirit of...fun adventerous learning experiences...I'm going to try reformatting one last time. hehe09:24
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ardchoille!seveas | spiroo Try this repo09:26
ubotuspiroo Try this repo: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - And he's getting married!09:26
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spirooBut I wanna use Adobe Reader GUI, or else I could just use KPDF09:27
sd32Can I upgrade to 7.10 through kubuntu or do I need  to use ubuntu?09:27
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spiroosd32: Yes09:27
ardchoillespiroo: iirc, the acroread plugin also installs the acrobat reader09:27
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spirooKubuntu is a part of Ubuntu development09:27
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)09:27
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spirooCannot find it09:28
sd32spiroo, thanks09:28
spirooDoes not pop up in adept repositories09:28
ardchoillespiroo: Of course it doesn't, you need to read that link ubotu sent you about seveas09:29
spiroosd32: But for now, 7.10 has not been released as final version yet. It is just for RC right now. The full release is coming 18 october.09:29
ardchoillespiroo: Never mind, it's no longer there. I guess acroread isn't available in ubuntu abymore. But, there's kpdf and kghostview09:30
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spirooBut on adobes website I can download. But if I download tar.gz. How do I do then?09:33
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spirooThey have .rpm, .bz2, tar.gz09:33
ardchoillespiroo: You can't use an rpm, forget it. download the tarball, unpack it and read the files. It should have a README or INSTALL file telling you what to do.09:34
sd32man, that  bot text is out of date09:34
spirooOkay thanks, yes I guess .rpm is for ubuntu or something like that09:34
ardchoillerpm is for Red Hat, Fedora, SuSe, etc.09:35
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spirooah okay :P09:37
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apolis it safe to update to 7.10 from a previous one, or it is safer to reinstall everything?09:41
ardchoille!upgrade | apol09:42
ubotuapol: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)09:42
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Hamrai cant imagine having to redownload all my programs again with my crappy connection, so definitly  upgrade :P09:43
apolardchoille: thanks09:43
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ScorpKingis there a way to autodetect video modes for a crt monitor?09:44
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ardchoilleHamra: You could always run a command and and let it work while you sleep: sudo apt-get install app1 app2 app3 app4 app509:47
sd32whats the cutoff date for support for 7.04?09:48
ardchoillesd32: October 2008 ?09:48
Hamraso i can apt-get multiple programs? this might prove useful09:48
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ardchoilleHamra: yes, my apt-get command after an install includes 29 packages09:49
ardchoilleWell, 29 main packages, and their deps09:49
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andrewminhey all, having trouble with my new logitech ak5370 usb microphone09:57
andrewminits showing up in lusb but nothing can record with it09:57
andrewmini tried mhwaveedit and skype, and niether could09:58
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rohanandrewmin: did you set the microphone gain high in alsamixer ?09:58
andrewminlet me try that09:59
andrewminwell, i did it in kmix09:59
andrewminlet me try09:59
andrewminno, sitll not working :-(10:00
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Hamrawhen i plugged my ntfs usb flash stick, a window asked me what  to do, i clicked on open, but nothing happened!10:00
tehkAnyone know if there is any repo with eric4 in it for gutsy?10:00
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ardchoilletehk: eric 3.9.5 is in gutsy repos. I don't know about eric410:02
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tehkardchoille: thanks10:03
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mavenjinxanyone know where i can find info on compiling kubunta to dual boot on my laptop10:15
mavenjinxi need to make the install as small as posible10:15
ardchoillemavenjinx: You might want to look into installing the server version and then build up from there.10:15
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ScorpKingi have a ps/2 mouse but it doesn't work. if i plug a usb mouse in, it works. sudo lshw doesn't show any usefull info. /var/log/messages shows mice: PS/2 device common found all mice. any ideas?10:17
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WaltzingAlongmavenjinx: make the install of kubuntu as small as possible?10:22
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mavenjinxok will kubunta use free space on a windows partition10:26
[ifr0g] i belive that in poss10:26
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Ch1ppyhey, I'm having a bit of trouble with Gusty - do I ask here or somewhere else?10:29
Ch1ppythought so, thanks10:30
kristjan_Ch1ppy: look at channel topic10:30
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Ch1ppydamnit, I did look10:30
Ch1ppyI missed the first part10:31
Ch1ppymy bad :)10:31
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto10:31
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BreetaiHi all, simple question. 64bit edition of kubuntu. I know flash is 32 bit, and if you want it in firefox you have to install the 32 bit edtion. Will 32bit flash work in konqueror?10:34
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sea4everControl + alt + backspace, What does it do?10:38
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NickPrestasea4ever, restarts X10:39
sea4everBut some of my stuff are still running10:39
sea4everOnly now, they have no icon or anything10:39
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ebovineIs there a way to downgrade a package that was applied in my apt-get upgrade today?10:44
ebovineSomebody broke SVN over HTTP10:44
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sylvainhi all10:46
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sylvaincould someone help me ?10:47
ebovinewith what?10:47
sylvainplease ?10:47
sylvaini lost a partition10:47
ebovineWhat do you mean "lost"?10:47
ScorpKingebovine: apt-get has a --no-upgrade option and aptitude has hold and keep. look at the man pages. not sure how to use them.10:48
ebovineThanks ScorpKign10:48
sylvainbecause i make a new install of ubuntu, and when i made the partitions during installation, i forgot to unchek "format" my old partition with all my data10:48
ebovineThanks ScorpKing10:48
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sylvain(i am french)10:48
ebovinesylvain: If you formatted the partion you're done.10:48
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sylvaini use testdisk and photorec10:49
sylvaini can recover my files10:49
sylvainbut they are strangely named10:49
ebovineYeah, the file allocation table was wiped out.10:49
sylvaini can use fdisk and gparted too10:49
ScorpKingtestdisk is the only option i know of that can help.10:49
sylvain'don't know exactly what you mean10:49
ebovineYou'll have to figure out the filenames by yourself.10:49
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ebovineThe filenames were stored in the file allocation tables.10:50
sylvaini understand10:50
ScorpKingwhich is gone now.10:50
ebovineThose most certainly were destroyed during the format.10:50
sylvainbu chat are th "file allocation tables" ?10:50
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ebovineThey tell the OS "a file named 'this' starts at this track/sector and ends at this track/sector"10:51
sylvain*but what are the "file allocation tables" ?10:51
ScorpKingthat's where the info about the files are stored, like filenames. i think it's nodes in linux.10:51
ebovineDepends on the FS type.10:51
sylvaini may use testdisk to restore the partition, and i hope it will work10:51
sylvainthe FS was ext310:51
ebovinenodes then.  It's a journaled FS.10:52
ScorpKingsylvain: make a image of the disk and work on the image if you can.10:52
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ebovineIt will be able to get any file that wasn't overwritten during the install, but you'll have to figure out the name by hand.10:52
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sylvainscorpking > make a disk image, and worl on it like if it is a virtual machine ?10:53
sylvainhere are my partitions : http://cjoint.com/data/knw06W3hqA.htm10:54
sylvaini may try10:54
sylvainbut i don't know how to make an image10:54
ScorpKingwith dd10:54
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sylvaindd ?? what's that ?10:55
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ScorpKingsudo dd if=/dev/hd? of=diskimage.img10:56
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ScorpKingit's used to make images from devices and so on.10:56
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ScorpKingreplace /dev/hd? with your disk or partition that you want to recover.10:57
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ebovineScorpKing: Do you know if the old .debs are stored locally anywhere?10:58
ebovine...or not.10:58
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ScorpKingin /var/cache/apt/archives i think10:58
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NickPrestaebovine, this may be of use to you: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-pin   you can try pinning the previous package, removing the newer, broken package and then upgrading again (it should install the pinned version), I believe.11:02
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mkfHi there11:02
NickPrestahi, mkf11:03
ebovineNickPresta: Excellent.  Thanks.11:03
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mkfIs there a way to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy like when changing from Edgy to Feisty?11:03
NickPrestaebovine, although the repo which holds that package may not have an older version available, in which case, I think you have to find an alternate installation source.11:03
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DanDartsudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?11:03
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NickPresta!upgrade | mkf11:03
ubotumkf: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)11:03
mkfOk, I'll try that. Thank you :D11:04
xeviousi believe the upgrade noes are online11:04
xeviousmkf: don't do that yet11:04
NickPrestanot updated yet...11:04
xeviousmkf: hold up11:04
NickPrestamkf, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52 although I believe its going to change in 5 days11:04
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xeviousi'm waiting for gutsy final11:05
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NickPrestaxevious, indeed11:05
clouderholy crap, kubuntu has peyton manning and tom green endorsing it?11:05
ebovinexevious: add another vote.11:05
NickPrestaclouder, I don't know. Does Kubuntu have PM and TG endorsing it?11:05
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clouderfrom the looks of kubuntu.org it would seem that way11:06
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NickPrestais that who those people are, in those pictures?11:06
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xeviousgood one, clouder11:07
clouder;P ty11:07
mrtimbowhen does 4.10 get released?11:08
NickPrestamrtimbo, 3 years ago and 5 days =)11:08
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information11:08
mrtimboThats what i though11:08
coreymon77xevious: im with you, its as far as i know, less than a week till gutsy final, so im gonna just wait for it11:08
coreymon77xevious: im personally a bit iffy about using beta oses11:08
xeviousme three11:09
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mrtimboI have the rc now, think im going to do a fresh install when its released11:09
coreymon77i use lots of beta software, im fine with that11:09
coreymon77just not a beta os11:09
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xeviouscan someone say something to me (aka xevious: hi) in about two seconds. changed my notification settings and want to confirm it.11:11
NickPrestaxevious, hello11:11
ebovinexevious: no.11:11
sylvainThanks for sudo dd if=/dev/hd? of=diskimage.img11:11
sylvainso, it will make a disk image11:12
xeviousonce more please?11:12
ebovinexevious: forget it.11:12
sylvainand will it work in virtual box ?11:12
mkfSo, I'll try dist-upgrade anyways and maybe reinstall the whole system on the 18th. Thanks for the advices NickPresta, xevious11:12
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xeviousthanks all11:12
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ScorpKingsylvain: i'm not sure. i does work in qemu tho.11:13
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ScorpKinghow do i set the resolution of bootsplash lower?11:13
dick-richardsonanyone get the b-enspirer driver working?11:13
xeviousebovine: could you stop being so disagreeable?? (aka: one mo' time!)11:13
ebovinexevious: Uhh...11:13
sylvainScorpking : thanj you11:14
sylvaini will use qemu so11:14
xeviousebovine: perfect. got it set now. thanks11:14
xeviousi was getting annoyed by kopete loudly beeping whenever someone said something to me in here11:14
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bjwebbwhy do tabs in konversation konsole and konqueror not fit in when i apply a black colour scheme?11:15
bjwebband what can i do about it?11:15
dick-richardsonanyone using a good quality sound card?11:15
NickPrestabjwebb, which color scheme are you trying to apply? and what do you mean, "not fit"? Do they look out of place?11:16
bjwebbits a dark theme and they're very light11:16
bjwebbDeep Black it's called11:17
NickPrestabjwebb, is there a place I can download this color scheme?11:17
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bjwebbNickPresta: it was ion kde-look, ill see if i can get you a link11:18
NickPrestaI found it, I think11:18
NickPrestahttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Deep+Black?content=66553 ??11:18
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xeviousdick-richardson: it's onboard sound on this computer. i have a ridiculously nice sound card in my recording workstation, but there's no linux drivers for it unfortunately11:19
xeviousdick-richardson: what's the problem you're having?11:19
bjwebbNickPresta: yea11:19
dick-richardsonI've downloaded the drivers from bgears.com and followed the instructions...still no sound :/11:19
NickPrestabjwebb, do you have all the requirements listed on that page?11:20
ebovineWoohoo.  Got subversion un-screwed up.11:20
NickPrestaebovine, did my "pin" solution work?11:21
ebovineHad to find an old .deb and just install it.11:21
ScorpKingebovine: how then?11:21
bjwebbokay i didn't want all the stuff11:21
NickPrestaebovine, ah okay.11:21
ScorpKingheh. i see11:21
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ebovineIf you value http or https for your svn don't update to the 1.4.3dfsg1-1ubuntu1.1 version.11:22
NickPrestabjwebb, well, I would assume if you didn't have the required theme stuff, the color scheme would look odd on whichever theme you decided to use11:22
bjwebbit looks fine except for these tabs11:22
xeviousdick-richardson: downloading the drivers so i can read the instructions11:24
dick-richardsonxevious: you're good people. thank you11:24
xeviousdick-richardson: np11:24
dick-richardsonI did run them as root...11:25
ScorpKingi made a disk with AptOnCD but now i can't use it. if i run apt-key add /dev/hdc it sais failed: invalid keyring. is there a way to work around it?11:25
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bjwebbNickPresta: the colour scheme works fine with polyester, so i think maybe somethings wrong to do with domino11:27
ScorpKingdomino does need more work...11:28
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sparr_Is there a way to have a script modify my shell's environment other than using source?  in bash.11:29
xeviousdick-richardson: .11:31
dick-richardsonxevious: the instructions are rather generic...standard 'how do I install a program from source' type answer11:31
xeviousdick-richardson: yeah.11:31
xeviousdick-richardson: after doing make install of the driver, i'd imagine you actually have to load the module11:31
dick-richardsonsudo depmod -a?11:32
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xeviousdick-richardson: cd /lib/modules then find . -name cmi8788.ko11:33
xeviousmake sure it actually has a module in the right place11:33
bjwebbNickPresta: its the colour sheme for domino thats mucked up11:34
NickPrestabjwebb, oh.11:34
ScorpKingnite guys11:35
dick-richardsonxevious: nothing there11:35
bjwebbive fixed it now11:35
xeviousdick-richardson: oh. it might bt snd-cmi8788.ko11:35
dick-richardsonnothing there, either11:36
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xeviousdick-richardson: cd / and try find . -name '*cmi8788*'11:39
xeviousmight want to exclude the source directory from the search11:39
xeviousi'm not sure if that's possible11:40
xeviousnot a find expert11:40
dick-richardsonjust the .c files in the source directory...indicating that make isn't getting it done11:40
dick-richardsongot the output uploaded to http://abe.midco.net/vauxje/error11:43
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xeviousdick-richardson: cc1: error: /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build/include/linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory11:46
xeviousdick-richardson: memalloc.inc:1:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory11:47
xeviousthose are you problems11:47
dick-richardsonso...install kernel-source?11:47
xeviousdick-richardson: building drivers probably depends on having a kernel source around. i'm not an expert on this though11:47
xeviousis there anyone here who can shed some additional light on this? i'm sort of just poking around...11:48
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dick-richardsonI can't remember the name for the kernel sources :/11:55
xeviousdick-richardson: linux-source11:57
dick-richardsonha! thank you11:58
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bluekb_I am having trouble getting nvidia drivers to work with ubuntu/kubuntu12:05
bluekb_I have tried the nvidia-glx package as well as downloading the installer from the nvidia site12:05
bluekb_But I keep getting a variety of errors (depending on which avenue I pursue)12:06
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bluekb_Right now, I have uninstalled the nvidia packages, and  used the installer from nvidia.com;  When I attempt to start the X server, I get "failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module"12:08
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JosieI've got a pretty easy question for you guys.12:12
MinatakuI'm positive you're lying, but go ahead anyway12:13
JosieI've got a computer with a 1.2ghz processor and 256mb of ram, will it run Kubuntu reasonably?12:13
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MinatakuYou MIGHT be the slightest bit cramped12:13
MinatakuIt should be usable, but not particularly expedient12:14
JosieWell, I'm gonna have to use the alternative installation CD.12:14
JosieBut the way I figure it is that it can't possibly be any slower than WinXP on the same hardware.12:14
xeviousJosie: xubuntu would probably feel more responsive. XFCE is much more lightweight12:14
MinatakuIt'll probably be a slight bit faster12:14
MinatakuYeah, xubuntu should be more comfortable12:14
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spimorthi all12:15
xevioushi there12:15
Josiexevious: I'm very partial to KDE, it's more of a development test machine, to see how programs run on older (slower) hardware.12:15
nosrednaekimJosie: you should probably be OK... just turn of ANY effects.12:15
JosieThank you much for your help, I'll use the alternate install CD and see what happens.12:15
MinatakuIt'll be a tad cramped, but usable enough12:15
xeviousJosie: good luck. let us know if you need any assistance12:16
JosieYeah. Well, I'm not gonna be playing WOW on it so whatever. maybe some net surfing but nothing mre.12:16
MinatakuI need a ROM image of OBP 2.25 for a SPARCstation 10, but I doubt anyone here has that12:16
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JosieMinataku, way to ask for something insanely obscure.12:16
MinatakuNot really that obscure12:17
MinatakuI'm sure I could get it from Sun with a bit of complaining12:17
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JosieYeah but how many people in this channel will have it? Lol and good luck with Sun.12:17
dick-richardsonno dice :(12:17
MinatakuI need it because my two SS10s have 2.12 and 2.712:17
MinatakuWhich are too ancient for HyperSPARCs and Multiprocessor respectively12:17
JosieOh yeah, I've yet to test this, but the new Belkin USB 802.11g wifi cards are ralink based so they work on linux right? If not can't I just use ndiswrapper?12:18
xeviousMinataku: ftp://treefern.apana.org.au/pub/sun/bootroms/ss20_v2.25.tar.gz  ? this?12:18
JosieMinataku: who has a sparc anyways?12:18
nosrednaekim!hardware | Jo12:18
ubotuJo: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport12:18
nosrednaekim!hardware | Josie12:18
ubotuJosie: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport12:18
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nosrednaekimJosie: ndiswrapper doesn't do so well on USB devices12:19
dick-richardsonxevious: here's the errors I'm getting now http://abe.midco.net/vauxje/error12:19
Minatakuxevious: I tried that, the link seems bad12:19
xeviousMinataku: i got that link from here: http://www.sunshack.org/data/bootroms.html12:19
MinatakuThanks, though12:19
JosieI'm aware. But then again ndiswrapper doesn't work well with many things.12:19
MinatakuJohanSalim: I have several of them12:19
MinatakuEr... Josie12:19
nosrednaekimtru true12:19
Minataku6 of them, to be exact12:19
Minataku4 sun4m, 2 sun4u12:20
MinatakuAnd they're all better than a PC12:20
spimorti have difficulty with my screen ... who can help ,me?12:20
JosieSo why so interested in SPARCS?12:20
MinatakuI'm a collector12:20
MinatakuI've got more machines, actually12:20
Josiespimort, can you describe the problem?12:20
Minataku20 in total12:20
JosieMinataku: I see. I collect devices with 68k's.12:21
spimortat the start of kubuntu ... before to login ... i dont have the good resolution12:21
MinatakuI have only two of those12:21
nosrednaekimspimort: is this installed?12:21
MinatakuA Macintosh Classic running Macintosh System 6.0.8 ( 68000 @ 8MHz )12:21
spimortwhat is installed?12:21
xeviousMinataku: did you catch that second link i sent you? to the page, not the tar.gz?12:21
nosrednaekimspimort: kubuntu12:22
JosieMinataku: I've been fasciated with them ever since I started learn ASM langauges.12:22
MinatakuA Macintosh Quadra 650 running A/UX 3.1.1 ( 68040 @ 33MHz )12:22
spimortit is12:22
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:22
Minatakuxevious: Actually, I've known about that site12:22
MinatakuI knew the first link was broken because I had tried it from there earlier today12:22
spimortcan i resolve this problem n kernle mode?12:22
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xeviousMinataku: righto. might want to email the admin of that site and see if he can send it to you direct.12:23
clyrradDoes Kubuntu have a built in client to access a remote Kubuntu desktop?  Or do I need to install a VNC client on this Kubuntu machine?12:23
JosieMy favorite right now is my sega genesis of course. I've got various computers based on them. But a game console is so much easier to show to friends =}12:23
MinatakuJosie: You'd probably like the PDP-11 and VAXen, too12:23
nosrednaekimspimort: just your login screen?12:23
JosieMinataku: I'm currently learning ARM asm.12:23
nosrednaekimclyrrad: the supportis built in, but you have to configure a couple files.12:23
JosieMinataku: Gearing up for college. I like to be ahead.12:23
MinatakuSince the 68k's ISA was built around the ideas in PDP/VAX, like the highly orthogonal ISA, but let's move this to #kubuntu-offtopic12:23
spimortmy login screen to ... when i login , the resolution is ok ... but before ... no12:23
MinatakuBefore nosrednaekim has a fit12:24
clyrradnosrednaekim: on the destination machine I have enabled the remote desktop sharing, but now I need to know how to access it from this machine... IE: what do I need to use / do to access the other machine?12:24
nosrednaekimlol... now I know what Jucato feels like :)12:24
nosrednaekimspimort: I had that problem once... I don't remember the fix, file a bug .12:24
xeviouswhere does /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build/include/linux/modversions.h come from? is it a result of having kernel sources installed, or is it something generated at the time of a kernel compile?12:24
spimortno body know how to resolve this problem?12:24
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clyrradnosrednaekim: IE: do I use krdc?12:25
nosrednaekimclyrrad: in the login screen, click the list button, and select remote session12:25
xeviousclyrrad: K Menu -> Internet -> Krdc12:25
clyrradxevious: yes I have that open already, but how to connect to the other machine?  Is it just IP_ADDRESS:1 ?12:25
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clyrradnosrednaekim: which login screen do you refer to?12:26
xeviousclyrrad: just ip address if you're using the standard port12:26
nosrednaekimclyrrad: KDM..12:26
nosrednaekimmaybe I don't understand..12:26
spimortnosrednaekim ... do you konw the code to resize screen?12:26
clyrradxevious: the connect button is disabled with just the IP address12:26
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nosrednaekimspimort: not if your normal login is fine..12:27
clyrradxevious: it only become enabled if I add a :1 to the end12:27
xeviousclyrrad: hold on one second.12:27
xeviousclyrrad: it's not like an X screen reference. it's ip:port12:27
spimortno body know?12:27
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nosrednaekimspimort: i'm pretty sure its a bug...12:27
clyrradxevious: oh wait got it working - have to use :0 instead of :112:27
spimorthumm ... no because i try whit a bigger screen and its was ok12:28
nosrednaekimspimort: you COULD try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:28
xeviousrunning krdc and connecting to localhost is cool12:28
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spimortand its will resize my screen?12:28
clyrradxevious: well not local host, its another machine on the network12:28
nosrednaekimspimort: it may... depends.12:28
xeviousi've got a waterfall effect behind my IRC window12:28
nosrednaekimxevious: compiz?12:28
spimortdepend what?12:28
xeviousclyrrad: i was just testing it. because i run my vnc on port 31337 :D12:29
nosrednaekimspimort: depends if its a bug or not..12:29
spimortits not a bug ... im sur12:29
xeviousclyrrad: it is in the ip:port format, by the way. i bet :0 just connects to the default vnc port12:29
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nosrednaekimspimort: ok.. then run that command. and if you have an nvidia card, make sure you sleect the driver "nvidia" for ATI, select "fglrx"12:30
spimortdo you know whre i can find a list of code to use in kernel mode12:30
nosrednaekimspimort: what?12:30
nosrednaekimxevious: "IP:0" SEEMS to denote an Xserver running remotely... like "DISPLAY:0"12:30
clyrradxevious: well I did not install vnc, I just used whats bult into Kubuntu krdc + krfb12:30
spimortdo you know whre i can find a list of comand that i can use in kernel mode?12:30
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xeviousclyrrad: rfb/vnc are the same thing.12:31
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clyrradxevious: I thougt the :0 is the first screen is it not?12:31
xeviousclyrrad: and actually krfb is a broken implementation.12:31
spimortlike cd or mkdir12:31
BigDaddyHey guys, got a real stupid question here. How in the heck do I change my homepage in Konq?12:31
nosrednaekimspimort: ah! run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:31
xeviousclyrrad: using krfb, if a you connect with krdc it works a-ok. if you try to use TightVNC or any other vnc client it crashes. i switched to vncserver and now i can connect from systems using krdc or any vnc client12:32
spimortin kernel or just in konsol?12:32
Linux_GaloreBigDaddy: Settings->onfigure Konqueror12:32
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: go to the page/pages you want loaded by default, and go to "sesions->save viewprofile web browsing"12:32
ardchoilleBigDaddy: You don't. Konq is not a "normal" web browser.. it's also a file manager, so clicking the Home button takes you your home folder.12:32
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nosrednaekimspimort: konsole12:32
Linux_GaloreBigDaddy: Settings->configure Konqueror12:32
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nosrednaekimLinux_Galore: that only configures the filemanager part..12:33
BigDaddyLinux_Galore: yeah I got that far12:33
clyrradxevious: ah I see, yea, there acutally seems to be a big lag with this12:33
spimorti said yes or know?12:33
JosieAs for my belkin usb card, Apparently it works well with ndiswrapper and it's possible (though I haven't seen it yet) that it has a kernel module already.12:33
BigDaddynosrednaekim: there is mention of the web browser config there too12:33
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nosrednaekimBigDaddy: yeah.. but it doesn't have homepage..12:33
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BigDaddyjust no mention of the homepage12:33
xeviousin kde, does printscreen function like it does in windows, generating a screen shot on the clipboard?12:33
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: the solution I said is straight from Jucato..12:33
nosrednaekimxevious: it should start ksnapshot12:34
xeviousbecause you guys have to see this.12:34
nosrednaekimhi marvil__12:34
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nosrednaekimBigDaddy: which means its probably the easiest, if not only way to do it:)12:34
xeviousok. krdc to localhost: http://mingus.shacknet.nu/~matt/screenshot.png12:35
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JosieWhat the ****, dude?12:36
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Josiexevious, you get the most f-ed up screen of the day award, congrats.12:36
ardchoilleIt's not a bug, it's a feature, lol12:36
xeviousrock on!12:36
Linux_GaloreDepends, in Gutsy Konqueror isnt the default file browser anymore12:37
Josieardchoille: lol12:37
xeviousi think i can top it. hold on12:37
BigDaddynosrednaekim: I am not seeing this Sessions menu. Where is it located12:37
coreymon77dolfin is12:37
Linux_GaloreI disabled Dolphin for Konqueror due to stability issues12:37
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JosieBeing as I'm technically "borrowing" internet atm.12:38
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nosrednaekimBigDaddy: whoops :).. "settings"12:38

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