[12:42] <saeed> hi all
[12:42] <saeed> anybody knows how to install codeblocks?
[12:42] <saeed> anybody here?
[12:42] <saeed> how about installing compiz-fusion?
[12:42] <saeed> I want to install compiz-fusion
[12:42] <Avatar-Heljara> Have you tried adept?
[12:43] <saeed> for compiz-fusion?
[12:43] <saeed> or for codeblocks?
[12:43] <Avatar-Heljara> for either
[12:43] <Avatar-Heljara> sudo apt-get install codeblocks
[12:43] <saeed> because I already tried codeblocks, but there's nothing there
[12:43] <saeed> codeblocks is not there
[12:44] <saeed> do I install compiz or compiz-fusion
[12:44] <saeed> I searched in adept
[12:45] <saeed> I found only compiz
[12:45] <saeed> no compiz-fusion
[12:45] <stdin> !compiz-fusion
[12:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:51] <tyrant91101> does anyone know what i should do when i get the error " /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" followed by repeating " ata1.01: exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen"
[12:52] <stdin> !ttyerror
[12:52] <ubotu> If you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError
[12:52] <tyrant91101> ok thank you
[12:59] <Silveira_Neto> Hi guys, anyone here knows how to play lbreakout in multiplayer mode? I have two machines with Linux here, and lbreakout2 installed, but none can connect in a game with the other
[01:03] <saeed> hi
[01:03] <bazhang> hi saeed
[01:03] <saeed> anybody knows how to access a windows partition?
[01:04] <bazhang> saeed:  you need something called ntfs-g
[01:04] <saeed> I just installed kubuntu
[01:04] <saeed> it shows my ntfs partition
[01:04] <saeed> but I can't access it
[01:05] <tyrant91101> hmm the TTY error page didnt help, i tried all of the recommended solutions, none helped
[01:05] <bazhang> !ntfs
[01:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:05] <tyrant91101> does it change anything if i sometimes get "Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0"
[01:06] <iSir_Joshmus> im on xubuntu, is it possible to lock the screen?
[01:06] <iSir_Joshmus> cause im looking and i dont see the command
[01:06] <iSir_Joshmus> say you wanted to enter a command in the terminal
[01:07] <iSir_Joshmus> to lock screen, what would it be?
[01:11] <saeed> what is ntfs-g?
[01:11] <saeed> and how do i get it?
[01:11] <bazhang> ntfs-config - Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices
[01:12] <saeed> where do i get it?
[01:12] <bazhang> saeed: you can install it through either Adept (the gui package manager) or the commande line.
[01:13] <bazhang> command line
[01:14] <saeed> I found a package
[01:14] <saeed> using adept
[01:14] <fdoving> saeed: xscreensaver -lock maybe?
[01:14] <saeed> libntfs-gnomevfs
[01:14] <saeed> when I searched for ntfs-g
[01:14] <fdoving> saeed: err, wrong nick sorry.
[01:15] <saeed> bazhang: is that the package?
[01:15] <bazhang> saeed: that is for Ubuntu, I believe;
[01:15] <saeed> how about kubuntu?
[01:15] <saeed> what package should I install?
[01:16] <fdoving> isir_joshmus: 'xscreensaver-command -lock' maybe?
[01:16] <bazhang> !ntfs-3g
[01:16] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:24] <saeed> hi again
[01:24] <saeed> I just installeg ntfs-3g
[01:24] <bazhang> hi
[01:24] <saeed> but when I try to run it, nothing happens
[01:24] <saeed> anyone knows what's happening?
[01:25] <bazhang> saeed: you also need to install the ntfs-config package
[01:26] <saeed> I already installed it
[01:27] <bazhang> did you check each partition you want to access and click 'Apply'?
[01:27] <saeed> I didn't get anything when I tried to start ntfs-config
[01:28] <saeed> the application doesn't even start
[01:28] <bazhang> how did you start it?
[01:29] <saeed> kde menu -> system -> NTFS config tool
[01:29] <wohnzimmer> hi
[01:30] <bazhang> saeed: that's odd. It should launch.
[01:30] <saeed> how do I play flash apps in firefox?
[01:30] <bazhang> hi wohnzimmer
[01:30] <saeed> I am trying to watch some youtube stuff
[01:30] <saeed> but I can't
[01:31] <wohnzimmer> hi bazhang
[01:31] <bazhang> saeed: you need to install kde-restricted-extra
[01:31] <wohnzimmer> i cant  get no sleep
[01:31] <bazhang> extras
[01:31] <saeed> how so?
[01:31] <saeed> adept?
[01:31] <bazhang> do you have a question wohnzimmer?
[01:32] <bazhang> saeed: take a look if it's there.
[01:32] <wohnzimmer> do you know something about grub
[01:32] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: a little, I'll do my best. :}
[01:32] <pope22> hello
[01:33] <pope22> i'm trying to learn how to upgrade to kde 4, is anyone able to help me?
[01:33] <bazhang> !kde4
[01:33] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[01:34] <wohnzimmer> i have grub error when i start my system with  2 hardisk ,one is an usb one fix ,i get an error 21
[01:34] <wohnzimmer> when  i press the power button
[01:34] <melchor> alguien en espaol???
[01:34] <bazhang> !es
[01:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:34] <pope22> right....yes, i've read that post about kde 4. That's why i'm asking, i'm new to linux don't particulartly understand the instructions
[01:35] <bazhang> pope22: KDE4 has loads of potential, but that's it for now--I tried one of the KDE4 liveCDs (Suse), and nothing to see (for now).
[01:36] <helloyo> if i want to use flash and java should i install the 32bit version?
[01:36] <saeed> hi again
[01:36] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: error 21 means that the disk you're trying to access is not recognized as a valid disk
[01:37] <bazhang> helloyo: not sure about that..
[01:37] <helloyo> bazhang: ah ok, well for the RC i'll just get 32bit and save some hassles
[01:37] <wohnzimmer> ok but when i reboot the system load grub stage 1.5 , fine
[01:38] <bazhang> helloyo: probably a good choice for now.
[01:38] <saeed> is there another way to access ntfs partitions?
[01:39] <saeed> It's obvious that the ntfs-3g is NOT working
[01:39] <saeed> I installed everything twice
[01:39] <saeed> but it doesn't work
[01:39] <bazhang> saeed: that's the way I know of; again, I don't have a windows partition so I'm not the biggest help there.
[01:39] <saeed> thanks for trying
[01:39] <wohnzimmer> bazhang : i tried grub superdisk to chnage the masterboot record but nothing happend
[01:39] <radius> ntfs-fuse should work
[01:40] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: getting Vista/XP recognized in GRUB?
[01:40] <wohnzimmer> bazhang :yes everything works when i reboot
[01:40] <shinda> was wondering if anyone was familiar with eclipse, I get some strange behaviour when minimizing side panels such as project outline where the panel although minimzed continues to take up horizontal space
[01:42] <wohnzimmer> bazhang :i have winxp on the disk inside the notebook and on the usb drive ubuntu
[01:42] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: which did you install first?
[01:42] <wohnzimmer> the win xp
[01:43] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: does the BIOS look for the internal or the external drive first?
[01:45] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: I had the same trouble with Vista until I reset the BIOS
[01:45] <wohnzimmer> for the internal ,  i changed zu external but  i doesnt work
[01:45] <NixMan> just wondering..the "audio" tab in kcontrol, where you can select mp3 ripping, what does that effect? i set it to like 192kbps, and i tried ripping with k3b, and it wasn't that. any helps?
[01:46] <wohnzimmer> o.k i open this book and reset the bios
[01:46] <wohnzimmer> bazhang :thanx
[01:46] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: I can PM you a url that lays out how to do it if you wish..
[01:47] <wohnzimmer> what does pm mean ????#
[01:48] <bazhang> Private Message
[01:48] <wohnzimmer> sorry , im noob
[01:49] <bazhang> don't want to flood the channel--I click on your name, and then privately give you the website that tells how to do it
[01:50] <voidus> firefox seem to ignore my look & feel settings
[01:50] <voidus> is it common problem?
[01:50] <wohnzimmer> my english is too bad so for me its hard to follow quick
[01:51] <bazhang> ok if I PM you?
[01:51] <stdin> !de
[01:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:51] <wohnzimmer> bazhang:ok
[01:52] <NixMan> just wondering..the "audio" tab in kcontrol, where you can select mp3 ripping, what does that effect? i set it to like 192kbps, and i tried ripping with k3b, and it wasn't that. any helps?
[01:53] <bazhang> wohnzimmer: have Private Messaged you the url, look for the channel with your name (or mine?) on it.
[01:53] <bazhang> probably mine.
[01:53] <pope22> is plasma integrated into kde 4? i'm worried it may eat up  my cpu...
[01:56] <D_Ed> pope22: yes it is. and why do you think it will do that?
[01:59] <geekgirl> hello
[01:59] <bazhang> hi geekgirl
[01:59] <geekgirl> hi bazhang
[02:00] <geekgirl> i'm new here
[02:00] <bazhang> geekgirl: do you have a question?
[02:02] <ardchoille> !sound
[02:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:19] <franz__> [kopete]  how can i enable my sounds? I tried the 'play' button in Settings > Configure Notifications but i don't hear a thing...any ideas?
[02:28] <voidus> !sound
[02:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:31] <franz__> voidus, thanks..but my sound is working perfectly...it's just that kopete won't play any. and after googling for awhile, i can see a lot of people having the same issue...and no one really knows how to fix this...that's why im trying my luck here :)
[02:31] <voidus> ah..
[02:32] <franz__> i googled for "sound kopete" ( without the quotes....and mostly, i see bug reports and complaints :) )
[02:34] <voidus> franz__: do you use firefox? and if so, do firefox respect your font settings?
[02:34] <franz__> voidus, i do...as for the font settings...never really tried changing them...let me check
[02:37] <franz__> voidus, i tried changing my fonts from the System Settings but firefox seems to be immune to it :)
[02:37] <dbglt> are there any known kubuntu-gusty related updated problems I should look out for?
[02:37] <voidus> dbglt: /join #ubuntu+1
[02:38] <dbglt> voidus: I'm there. But that's not for kubuntu
[02:38] <voidus> hm..
[02:38] <dbglt> voidus: I assume the knowledge here will be greater
[02:38] <voidus> maybe
[02:38] <bazhang> dbglt: sure it is! :}
[02:40] <lontra> franz__: it's cause firefox is GTK ... you need to changet that font
[03:06] <quixogre> evening all
[03:07] <bazhang> hi
[03:10] <CapitalT> Hi, I'm not sure if this is a bug or not; but having a terminal between sessions is annoying (ctrl+alt+F7=session1, ctrl+alt+F8=terminal, ctrl+alt+F9=session2)
[03:10] <CapitalT> should I report this?
[03:10] <CapitalT> especially since the terminal is just the output of the bootup sequence
[03:11] <crimsun> it's intentional
[03:12] <CapitalT> but, the terminal is useless. I don't see any valuable debug information there. Did I miss something?
[03:14] <franz_> voidus: i've now 'fixed' my kopete sounds. i just configured kopete to use mplayer to play a file for the notification
[03:14] <DaSkreech> I have a disagreement between the superblock and the backup
[03:14] <DaSkreech> how could I check which is valid?
[03:20] <lukas__> hello
[03:22] <quixogre> anyone familiar with CUPS?
[03:22] <lukas__> what is CUPS? , I am new in linux
[03:23] <quixogre> trying to add a networked printer, and its not working...the printer flashes, but noting prints out
[03:23] <quixogre> !cups
[03:23] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:24] <lukas__> hmm
[03:26] <lukas__> good to know
[03:30] <DaSkreech> !inf otestdisk
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inf otestdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <DaSkreech> !info testdisk
[03:30] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[03:31] <dick-richardson> I have a turtle beach santa cruz sound card and no sound...drivers look right. what can I check?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> !sound
[03:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:34] <dick-richardson> sound system is enabled, I get sliders to move in the mixer...but no sound
[03:34] <canen> hello
[03:35] <canen> anyone having trouble with flash + konqueror?
[03:36] <phoenixz> anybody here who could help with setting up a vpn?? Im using kvpnc but I get the error "only freeswan version 1.x is supported "
[03:36] <phoenixz> this error means tat kvpnc only supports openswan1.x or the server??
[03:37] <DaSkreech> canen: Which flash are you using?
[03:38] <canen> DaSkreech: i just noticed the channel message and since i'm running gutsy i'm going over to #ubuntu+1
[03:38] <canen> non-free by the way
[03:38] <DaSkreech> canen: No I meant which version
[03:38] <DaSkreech> The new flash plugins freeze konqueror unless you update it
[03:38] <canen> 9 i think , let me check
[03:38] <DaSkreech> But good call #ubuntu+1
[03:40] <canen> DaSkreech: 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12
[03:40] <canen> but it has never worked for me, regardless of the version
[03:40] <dick-richardson> ok, so I'm really not interesting is pissing with this sound card. any good suggestions for an external that works out of the box?
[03:41] <DaSkreech> canen: Yeah hit up #ubuntu+1
[03:42] <canen> DaSkreech: thanks
[03:42] <quixogre> how many here are on gutsy? im noticing i got lots of updates available, but assuming thats a patch for gutsy yes?
[03:42] <quixogre> im afraid to switch to gutsy because of all the problems i saw before it left beta
[03:43] <quixogre> btw. fixed my printer problem...switched to a different driver, and it works like a dream now
[03:44] <canen> quixogre: unless you do an explicit update gutsy will not be install
[03:44] <quixogre> canen good ta know. thanks
[03:44] <canen> if your sources still point to fiesty the updates are fiesty
[03:44] <dick-richardson> no suggestions on an external sound card?
[03:49] <mrksbrd> genii u here?
[03:49] <level1> I can't figure out if radeon or ati are different drivers... whats the deal there?
[03:50] <mrksbrd> radeon & ati are the same thing
[03:50] <level1> mrksbrd: are you sure?  someone in winehq said otherwise
[03:51] <mrksbrd> ati is the board manufacturer, radeon is the model....just like a "ford taurus"
[03:51] <genii> back
[03:51] <level1> mrksbrd: okay, I find this really annoying
[03:51] <genii> Sorry for lag, assisting in #ubuntu
[03:51] <level1> mrksbrd: I'm referring to ati "the driver" and radeon "the driver"
[03:52] <mrksbrd> genii need your help bro
[03:52] <mrksbrd> !!
[03:52] <level1> I don't understand why they named them after the companies
[03:52] <genii> mrksbrd: Well, state the problem and I'll assist if I know how :) Someone else may know too
[03:53] <mrksbrd> remember the usbhdd drive issue u helped me with b4....having the same prob again....drive won't mount
[03:53] <mrksbrd> looked the the fstab that looks goo but getting an error, std cant mount drive
[03:54] <DaSkreech> quixogre: Then dont
[03:54] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: unless you mean the driver
[03:55] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: those are different
[03:55] <genii> mrksbrd: Ah, I remember a bit now about that. Tho the details escape me. Did you eventually use UUID in the fstab instead of something like /dev/sdb2  or so? the usb storage gets reassigned depending on what gets plugged in first, so sdb may be sdc another time, yet the UUID will always be the same
[03:56] <mrksbrd> fdisk -l stated /dev/sdb1
[03:56] <DaSkreech> !dvd
[03:56] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:57] <genii> mrksbrd: OK. Please pastebin your fstab and I will take a look. But be warned I am getting exhausted today and not at top of my game
[03:57] <genii> (18 hour day)
[03:58] <mrksbrd> ok, give me a sec
[03:58] <mrksbrd> ouch!!!!
[03:59] <mrksbrd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40483/
[04:02] <genii> OK reading. pls excuse lag
[04:02] <mrksbrd> k
[04:02] <mrksbrd> want the error I get as well?
[04:03] <genii> mrksbrd: No need :)
[04:03] <mrksbrd> k
[04:03] <genii> DaSkreech: I'll likely need it later when the coffee wears off :)
[04:04] <DaSkreech> uerk coffee
[04:04] <genii> mrksbrd: We need to make an entry in the same way you see the UUID entry for / as an example. But for sdb1 in this case. But at the moment it may not actually be named sdb1 anymore
[04:05] <genii> mrksbrd: Thanks :) <takes a sip>
[04:05] <ubuntu> cool
[04:05] <mrksbrd> how do i figure that out
[04:05] <genii> mrksbrd: So we have to: discover which actual /dev it is if not sdb1 anymore       then: get the uuid by issuing: blkid      then: put the proper UUID in the fstab
[04:06] <mrksbrd> ok
[04:06] <genii> mrksbrd: Do you know what size it is supposed to be?
[04:06] <mrksbrd> dev/sdb1: UUID="55D123D9E79ABF54" TYPE="ntfs"
[04:07] <mrksbrd> the drive?
[04:07] <genii> mrksbrd: OK. I will make a new fstab for you. 1 minute please
[04:07] <mrksbrd> k
[04:08] <kat> #quit
[04:08] <kat> doh
[04:09] <hellhound> has anyone ever tried following the steps in Synce Wiki to sync a PDA?
[04:10] <genii> mrksbrd: Hmm. Did you have ntfs-3g installed? I forget. Someone recently only needed top read not write ntfs
[04:10] <hellhound> I am having trouble with the synce-gnome and running python test.py
[04:10] <mrksbrd> i believe it is, is there a way to twll?
[04:11] <myo> hi all just installed KDE desktop and having problems installing themes.  I was following the directions here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDM+Theme+Manager?content=22120 to install the theme manager but when I run ./configure  I see checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:11] <myo> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[04:11] <myo> .  I am a relative linux noob here so the more specific the better
[04:11] <genii> mrksbrd: Offhand i forget. but it looks like somehow the options for that drive went to "auto" and some sort of defaults instead of ntfs or similar. I will assume no ntfs-3g for now
[04:12] <mrksbrd> k
[04:13] <genii> mrksbrd: Bah. Having probs with pastebin. so, comment out line for sdb1, then below add this line: UUID=55D123D9E79ABF54 	/media/usbhdd	ntfs	defaults,user,auto	0 0
[04:13] <hellhound> how do I turn off the firewall in kubuntu?
[04:13] <genii> Whoa wait
[04:14] <genii> Weird. Spaces got lost in copy/paste
[04:14] <genii> Ah, tabs rather..1 minute
[04:14] <genii> UUID=55D123D9E79ABF54 /media/usbhdd ntfs defaults,user,auto 0 0
[04:15] <DaSkreech> !themes
[04:15] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:15] <DaSkreech> !firewall
[04:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:17] <mrksbrd> enii tels me i'm "not privledged to mount this drive"
[04:18] <genii> mrksbrd: Ah, OK. But is seeing it now, yes?
[04:18] <hellhound> ubotu: so i need to install guarddog to disable the firewall?
[04:18] <mrksbrd> nope no icon either
[04:19] <mrksbrd> want me to repaste
[04:19] <genii> mrksbrd: What I meant is that to get the "not priveledged to mount" error, it must be seeing that the drive exists and is trying to do something (however unsuccessfully)
[04:19] <mrksbrd> correct
[04:20] <genii> mrksbrd: OK. We will see if ntfs-3g is around. try to run: sudo ntfs-config       at commandline
[04:21] <mrksbrd> :command not found
[04:21] <genii> OK not installed
[04:21] <genii> mrksbrd: Change user to plural,  users    but otherwise all the same, and try again with what we have there
[04:21] <mrksbrd> is there a file out there that isn't tar'd....I hate those things
[04:22] <mrksbrd> k
[04:22] <mrksbrd> both lines or just the uuid line?
[04:23] <genii> just the uuid line. the other one should be commented out with a #
[04:23] <genii> (the old sdb1 line)
[04:23] <mrksbrd> right ok
[04:24] <mrksbrd> same error
[04:24] <genii> bah
[04:24] <genii> OK, time to go the ntfs-3g way I guess. I don't know all the little ntfs mounting switches/options so this is easiest
[04:26] <flake> for some reason, xmms isn't controlling my audio volume, having to do it from the speaker on my desk
[04:26] <genii> mrksbrd: install packages: ntfs-3g ntfs-config ntfsprogs          after this, run the program ntfs-config   as before, with sudo
[04:27] <n8k99> whew!
[04:28] <genii> mrksbrd: After this I must leave and sleep :)
[04:28] <mrksbrd> ok no prob
[04:29] <genii> mrksbrd: Oh...before running ntfs-config   comment out the UUID line as well
[04:29] <mrksbrd> k
[04:29] <mrksbrd> ok installed
[04:30] <genii> I will stay long enough to at least see the results, good or bad
[04:30] <mrksbrd> run config now?
[04:30] <genii> mrksbrd: yes.    sudo ntfs-config
[04:30] <mrksbrd> ok done
[04:31] <genii> mrksbrd: Did it say anything informative?
[04:31] <mrksbrd> just an opton to check off to write to external drives
[04:31] <genii> OK. See if it made some fstab entry please
[04:32] <genii> mrksbrd: If not, we will uncomment and modify the UUID line once more
[04:32] <ubuntu> hoz ;uch spqce i need to instqll linux
[04:33] <genii> ubuntu: 4Gb or more is good. and a decent swap space of perhaps the size of your RAM
[04:33] <ubuntu__> Lilitha from kubunto reporting
[04:34] <genii> !hi | ubuntu__
[04:34] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:35] <flake> ok, i guess xmms is an older program
[04:35] <mrksbrd> ok it said alot.....
[04:35] <underdog5004> flake, xmms is the best music player ever, imho
[04:36] <flake> can't control volume
[04:36] <mrksbrd> the temp fstab is longer than the overwritten one though
[04:36] <flake> vlc doesth
[04:36] <underdog5004> flake, yeah, you can...there's a volume bar available
[04:36] <underdog5004> genii, how long have you been awake?
[04:36] <flake> it doesn't do anything to my volume underdog, have to adjust speaker volume manually, on desk
[04:37] <underdog5004> flake, bummer
[04:37] <genii> underdog5004: Something like 20 hours
[04:37] <ubuntu> genii: i just install xp and saprat my 160 in 3 now i; going to install linux but it only see 1 hdd not the 3
[04:37] <flake> i have onboard audio + pci audio card, think that's why
[04:37] <underdog5004> genii, I haven't slept longer than 30 minutes in the last 30 hours...I feel fine
[04:37] <mrksbrd> i'll let you go genni we'll just work on it some other time....i know how it is to be up for 18+hrs
[04:37] <myo> can anyone tell me what I need to install for this error: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:37] <genii> underdog5004: Maybe I'll start that sleep rotation thingy but not this week :)
[04:37] <underdog5004> polyphasic sleep for the win!
[04:37] <underdog5004> ha ha
[04:38] <flake> waitin for gutsy stable is almost as bad as waitin for qw:et
[04:38] <underdog5004> lemme find that site...
[04:38] <flake> like xmas
[04:38] <genii> mrksbrd: OK thanks. I'll be on tomorrow if yer around
[04:38] <mrksbrd> ok about this time??
[04:38] <underdog5004> http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/10/polyphasic-sleep/
[04:38] <genii> Yes, if not 6 hours or so earlier. Tho i will be watching hockey as well
[04:39] <mrksbrd> k
[04:39] <genii> underdog5004: Bookmarked
[04:39] <underdog5004> might be useful, esp if you can take 30 minutes whenever you want...
[04:39] <genii> Bye all. thanks for pillow DaSkreech
[04:39] <mrksbrd> i'll just pmsg u and respond when your ready
[04:39] <ubuntu> genii: i just install xp and sepqrat my 160 in 3 now i; going to install linux but it only see 1 hdd not the 3
[04:40] <ubuntu> genii: why/
[04:40] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can You explain what you are seeing?
[04:42] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: im on prepare disk space.
[04:42] <DaSkreech> Right
[04:42] <DaSkreech> why do you say it only sees one drive
[04:42] <myo> can anyone tell me how to install qt?   I have tried sudo apt-get install  with qt qt3 libqt and libqt3
[04:43] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i see only 1 partation to instaal linux alldo i ;ade 3 parts zhen i install xp
[04:43] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: so in  XP you had three drives?
[04:43] <DaSkreech> or three partitions rather ?
[04:43] <ubuntu> this language keyboard is killing me
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Change it to something you know
[04:44] <DaSkreech> What language do you want?
[04:44] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: its a 160 sepqrate in 3
[04:44] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i did change it but it stay the same
[04:47] <DaSkreech> ok The installer sees only one 160 GB drive?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> with no partitions?
[04:47] <ubuntu> DaSkreech:yes
[04:47] <DaSkreech> How much space is free?
[04:47] <ubuntu> the partition are for;ated in ntfs nor;aly
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Yes
[04:48] <DaSkreech> The installer can resize NTFS partitions safely
[04:49] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: resize,but witch side it will take it from
[04:49] <ubuntu> my xp
[04:50] <DaSkreech> The end part
[04:51] <ubuntu> wa option do i hqve to choose
[04:52] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: thers a thing that move left right to choose size
[04:52] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Right choose what size you want it to be
[04:53] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: if i choose 10percent it will not erace my  xp
[04:55] <ubuntu> otakuuu powaaaa
[04:55] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: muchi muchi u there
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> lol... ubuntu+1 has almost as many people as this channel :)
[04:57] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: how much space do you have free?
[04:58] <neofax> Hello everyone!
[04:58] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: dont no its a 160 i just finish installing xp noz im trying to install linux on the sa;e hdd
[04:58] <neofax> Is anyone here using a ICE1724 card with SPDIF out?
[04:59] <neofax> I cannot get it to work.
[04:59] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: im going fazord
[04:59] <ubuntu> w
[05:01] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: How long ago did you install XP?
[05:02] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: when i pres next it crash and 3 windoz show up which is the 3 hdd i made
[05:02] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: The installer cashes?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Is this the 7.04 or 7.10 installer?
[05:03] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: not exactly it just aborted the the 3 hdd put up like zindows
[05:04] <ubuntu> is the 7.10 out yet
[05:04] <ubuntu> i; 7.04
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Well at least you know you have your partitions :-)
[05:04] <medivh> Would anyone mind helping me with a probably noobish question about the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg dialogue?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> medivh: shoot
[05:04] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can you open konsole and type mount
[05:05] <DaSkreech> copy the output to pastebin for me
[05:05] <DaSkreech> !paste | ubuntu
[05:05] <ubotu> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:05] <medivh> DaSkreech, Hi, thanks. I've been able to go through it just fine up until it asked me for my "Video Card Bus Identifier"
[05:05] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: yeah but zhen linuh have to choose here to install it only see 1
[05:05] <ubuntu> not 3
[05:05] <DaSkreech> medivh: The defaults are usually good
[05:05] <medivh> DarkSkreechI googled, and found I can find the bus with lspci, but...there are many different nVidia entries.
[05:06] <DaSkreech> ubuntu:
[05:06] <ubuntu> ah  now it just crach on me
[05:06] <medivh> DaSkreech* excuse me.
[05:06] <DaSkreech> better pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[05:06] <DaSkreech> medivh: sure
[05:06] <medivh> DaSkreech, well the default is PCI:1:0:0 is that, ok?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> medivh: yes
[05:07] <medivh> DaSkreech, alright, thank you :) Would you mind if I bothered you again if I encountered anything else I didn't quite understand?
[05:08] <n8k99> medivh: DaSkreech lives for that stuff!
[05:09] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m21566490
[05:09] <DaSkreech> medivh: Sure
[05:10] <DaSkreech> medivh: I guess you are changing your resolution?
[05:10] <medivh> DaSkreech, you're quite correct. I recently got a widescreen monitor and this seemed the easiest way? Perhaps I was wrong :S
[05:11] <DaSkreech> medivh: No in that case you can ignore everything till you get to the resolution section
[05:11] <DaSkreech> If that's the only thing you are going to change everything else should be correct already
[05:11] <medivh> DaSkreech, ah, here's a question is there any way to go back? :P I think I might have just accidentally moved past the resolution selection, which is exactly what I wanted >.<
[05:11] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You have them all formatted already
[05:12] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: yes
[05:12] <DaSkreech> medivh: hold down enter till you reach the end? :-)
[05:13] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: WEll /dev/sda6 seems to have well enough space for your install needs
[05:13] <medivh> DaSkreech, I figured as much hehe, I'll just redo it and you say I can just skip everything until I get to the monitor resolutions if that's what I need?
[05:14] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i know i have enoght it just that it only seing my hdd like it was never separated
[05:15] <DaSkreech> medivh: yes if everything else already works no need to worry about it
[05:15] <Smurf-Slayer> Anyone know if there is a fix yet for when this works fine, but FireFox doesn't work?  Also, now my Adept Pkg Mgr doesn't work, or GAIM.  Had a power failure today, and the UPS couldn't hold it all long enough?  Could that be causing this problem?  Firefox and everything worked fine last night.
[05:16] <ubuntu> Smurf-Slayer: where they installing when u get the power out
[05:17] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: ok let me know when you get there and I'll see if I can help you out
[05:17] <medivh> DaSkreech, so I'm at the list of monitor resulotions, how would one add an asterisk next to a resolution for use?
[05:18] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: for the longest of hile its scanning to detect every hdd it4s being 6mins now
[05:18] <DaSkreech> medivh: space
[05:18] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Erk that doesn't sound right at all
[05:19] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: cancel
[05:20] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: When did you burn this CD?
[05:20] <ubuntu> rerun
[05:20] <gryphon> which is better kubuntu, ubuntu, or fedora?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can you do a CD test on it
[05:20] <DaSkreech> It's on the boot menu
[05:21] <DaSkreech> gryphon: the one you like best
[05:21] <medivh> gryphon, as my understanding goes, Kubuntu and Ubuntu are personal preference, as it's just Gnome and KDE
[05:21] <medivh> Fedora I have never used, so I can't help you on that one :(
[05:22] <Smurf-Slayer> Ubuntu - No, this installation is a couple of months old...
[05:22] <medivh> DaSkreech, Ah thanks a lot. So would I need to restart the computer for all of this to take effect? For the life of me I can't rememeber the key combination that is used to...restart the x server I believe? or...Do you know what I'm talking about? lol
[05:22] <DaSkreech> medivh: restart? never speak such blasphemy!
[05:22] <ubuntu> i buy it in a magazine it allredy install it on my pc now im install it on a ftriend own but he only got 1 hdd so im afraind to kill the xp part then ill have to start all over again
[05:23] <DaSkreech> medivh: If you want a dirty restart it's Alt+Ctrl+BkSPc a clean restart just involves logging out and back in
[05:23] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You have it partitioned already. Why did you make the two partitions that big? :)
[05:23] <medivh> DaSkreech, Ah, well I prefer cleanliness so I'll take the logging route, pardon me for a few seconds ;)
[05:24] <medivh> I just want to install all my updates first :)
[05:24] <DaSkreech> medivh: Dirty just means things don't have an option to let you save. So you lose any unsaved data
[05:24] <DaSkreech> medivh: it doesn't hurt anything
[05:24] <DaSkreech> medivh: Go right ahead :)
[05:25] <Smurf-Slayer> Ubuntu - No, this installation is a couple of months old...
[05:25] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: the bigest 1 if for data storage in cast xp have to reinstall the smaller 1 zas for 7.04
[05:25] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:25] <medivh> DaSkreech, ah ok hehe well thanks for that, I had no idea there was a difference, I though the key combination actually just logged you out regularly and did something...else hehe.
[05:25] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Linux generally uses two partitions so you will cut that one again
[05:26] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i know
[05:26] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: but you should be ok
[05:26] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i allready install it on my pc
[05:26] <DaSkreech> medivh: Nope it's the Xserver equivalnet of hitting the power button. Things don't get much chance to respond and interrupt but they will all be shut down ok
[05:26] <NightBird> when playing with the live cd, how can I try to see how well kubuntu detects the hard drives?
[05:27] <DaSkreech> NightBird: System settings -> advanced -> disk and filesystmes
[05:27] <NightBird> thanks
[05:27] <ubuntu> mmm fast
[05:30] <medivh> If I may offer up to anyone who's paying attention, I'm looking for some opinions on a browser, (I just reformatted, and as such this is new Kubuntu [yay \o/]  and I tend to change things up and try new software) I am rather torn between Firefox and Opera, anyone use either, or both, or...Neither?
[05:31] <DaSkreech> firefox -> Awesome extensions and experience, Most bloated bit of code to render websites in a long while
[05:32] <DaSkreech> opera -> nice lean mean, very funky and does things it's own way, not free software
[05:33] <medivh> It's not free? I'd used both of them and was under the impression Opera didn't cost anything, or...I got lucky?
[05:33] <Smurf-Slayer> Anyone know if there is a fix yet for when this works fine, but FireFox doesn't work?  Also, now my Adept Pkg Mgr doesn't work, or GAIM.  Had a power failure today, and the UPS couldn't hold it all long enough?  Could that be causing this problem?  Firefox and everything worked fine last night.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> medivh: not free as in beer
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Smurf-Slayer: run firefox from the command line
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Firefox &
[05:35] <DaSkreech> small f
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Just to test
[05:36] <medivh> DaSkreech, Ah I see what you mean now hehe
[05:38] <lee__> waht the
[05:38] <Smurf-Slayer> S
[05:39] <Smurf-Slayer> DaSkreech - It starts, but won't load any page, the same...
[05:39] <DaSkreech> Smurf-Slayer: Hmm
[05:39] <DaSkreech> run a fsck I guess
[05:42] <medivh> DaSkreech, oh, I just noticed something quite...Amazing. I can fully access my Windows hard drive (I have two internal hard drives, a Windows IDE and a Linux SATA) is it actually possible to run things, on linux, from that drive? With something like Wine of course?
[05:44] <Smurf-Slayer> It won't let me, says it may cause severe file damage
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Smurf-Slayer: Oh my do you have a live CD?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> medivh: in theory yes
[05:45] <j1solutions> hello
[05:45] <DaSkreech> !hi
[05:45] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:46] <j1solutions> hey does anyone know when 7.10 will be released as Kubuntu?
[05:46] <DaSkreech> 7 days
[05:46] <j1solutions> so its a day later than Ubunut?
[05:46] <j1solutions> or the same day
[05:48] <j1solutions> hello
[05:49] <Bootman> Morning!
[05:49] <j1solutions> if i install 7.10 RC1 today, can I 'upgrade' when 7.10 is released?
[05:49] <j1solutions> or might that be a bad idea
[05:50] <benny_> j1solutions: I second that question...
[05:50] <Bootman> can someone help me to find where logs file are: when I tryed to lunch Allegro (Cadence) in Kubuntu, system answers "core dumped"...
[05:51] <Bootman> I just want to fugure out,what is wrong..
[05:51] <Smurf-Slayer> No
[05:51] <benny_> Cadence?
[05:52] <Medivh> O_o
[05:52] <Bootman> Boys, aren't here any profy of Kubuntu over here? Yes, Cadence it is EDA program
[05:52] <DaSkreech> same day
[05:52] <benny_> for silicon?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> j1solutions: You can upgrade
[05:53] <Bootman> for PCB design
[05:53] <benny_> Bootman: I didn't know Cadence ran on linux..
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Bootman: /var/log
[05:53] <benny_> Bootman: we use AIX>
[05:53] <Bootman> I am still not sure myself
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Bootman: If it's a good linux program :)
[05:53] <Bootman> but It work in Mandriva
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Bootman: other wise it might put it in a hidden folder in your home directory
[05:54] <benny_> DaSkreech: evedently hasn't used Cadence..
[05:54] <Bootman> but I like Kubuntu, and would like to install it, anyway
[05:54] <benny_> :)
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Otherwise it will be in the same folder as the app
[05:54] <DaSkreech> nope
[05:54] <DaSkreech>  never even heard of it
[05:54] <j1solutions> thanks DaSkreech
[05:54] <benny_> it's a pile of crap, but it's what we all have to use.
[05:55] <Bootman> ok, thanks for advising.. will try
[05:55] <benny_> DaSkreech: good to see you again.. although this thingy isn't nearly as fun sober.
[05:56] <DaSkreech> benny_: All good things aren't
[05:56] <dick-richardson> turtle beach santa cruz...anyone got one working?
[05:56] <j1solutions> i cant imagine why anyone would choose gnome over kde
[05:56] <DaSkreech> dick-richardson: did you run through !sound ?
[05:56] <dick-richardson> yeah
[05:57] <dick-richardson> great tips...still nothing
[05:57] <DaSkreech> j1solutions: Many people can't imagine why someone would choose windows over linux but there you go
[05:57] <DaSkreech> !hardware
[05:57] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Don't know if that will shed some light
[05:57] <dick-richardson> if it doesn't, maybe it can at least point me toward a good sound card that works well
[05:58] <dick-richardson> thank you :)
[05:58] <j1solutions> anyone here work with asterisk?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> *
[05:59] <DaSkreech> there you go :)
[05:59] <benny_> very funny
[05:59] <j1solutions> no, thats his name  Aster Isk
[06:00] <DaSkreech> No only obeli sk
[06:00] <j1solutions> good one DaSkreech
[06:00] <DaSkreech> and 6 people got it :)
[06:01] <j1solutions> I've got an S Colon and a Q Mark in my addressbook
[06:01] <benny_> wish I actually kept an addressbook.
[06:02] <DaSkreech> E point
[06:02] <j1solutions> D Leet
[06:02] <j1solutions> benny, you only need one if you have friends
[06:02] <benny_> ouch.. harsh dude..
[06:03] <j1solutions> yeah
[06:03] <benny_> you'll get that way spending too much time Cadence.
[06:03] <benny_> with
[06:05] <j1solutions> <---runs and LDAP server with 3 entries, Mom, Boss and Landlord
[06:06] <benny_> good 'ol mom.
[06:06] <q_a_z_steve> trying to mount VISTA in dapper. I get error: device /dev/hdb5 is not removable error: could not execute pmount... help?
[06:06] <j1solutions> yep.  wouldn't want to lose her number
[06:07] <benny_> my mom tattooed it on my ass.
[06:07] <j1solutions> wow, what if she changes phone companies?
[06:07] <benny_> doesn't vista still use ntfs?
[06:07] <q_a_z_steve> yes
[06:07] <q_a_z_steve> shows as HPFS/NTFS
[06:08] <j1solutions> fiesty mounted my vista ntfs partitions ok (read only)
[06:08] <benny_> I haven't been brave enough to dual boot my vista machine yet.. how'd it go? besides the mount problem..
[06:10] <j1solutions> benny, how you like vista?
[06:12] <benny_> eh.. to be honest if you want flash-bang bells and wistles compiz-fusion and os/x top it..  but gotta have it for stupid programs that don't play nice on linux.
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[06:12] <DaSkreech> too bad we don't have stupid programs on linux
[06:12] <DaSkreech> :-(
[06:12] <benny_> and for the wify..  she refuses to use linux.
[06:13] <j1solutions> yeah, i tolerate XP, but I've tried to run Vista for 6 months now,  nfw-  i'm wiping it and doing a fresh install of kubuntu 7.10
[06:13] <q_a_z_steve> benny_: triple boot, XP Vista, and dapper
[06:13] <j1solutions> nice benny
[06:14] <benny_> I've heard if you're a gamer you should keep XP...
[06:14] <j1solutions> vista runs slow as shit, thats probably why
[06:14] <q_a_z_steve> XP is probably the best M$ ever did
[06:14] <j1solutions> agreed steve
[06:14] <j1solutions> i'd trade my vista licence for xp if i could
[06:14] <stdin> keep on topic :)
[06:15] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[06:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:15] <benny_> you mean after SP2.. cause it was like walking around with your pants around you ankles for a while there.
[06:15] <j1solutions> oops
[06:15] <j1solutions> yes, after sp2
[06:15] <j1solutions> but i'm going all linux, except my laptop
[06:16] <j1solutions> only because i ve got some automotive scanner software i need to run on it
[06:16] <benny_> ohhh man. that was one of my worst linux installs ever.. on my laptop about 3 years ago..
[06:16] <benny_> probably better now tho.
[06:16] <j1solutions> i had about 4 distros on this laptop in the last few months before i wnet back to xp
[06:16] <benny_> but I've never tried again after that.
[06:17] <j1solutions> all worked well, wireless and all.   you can do it now, believe me
[06:17] <j1solutions> its a lot easier
[06:19] <j1solutions> probably a lot to do with the hardware. this is a thinkpad and it was easy
[06:20] <jesus_> hay alguien alli?
[06:25] <j1solutions> benny, have you heard about the new offshoot of ubuntu?
[06:25] <j1solutions> it runs on a sneaker
[06:25] <j1solutions> its called shubuntu
[06:26] <j1solutions> ok i'm leaving. sorry
[06:26] <j1solutions> thanks for everyones help
[06:27] <Medivh> DaSkreech, are you still hre?
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Medivh: No
[06:27] <Medivh> DaSkreech, ah :P Hello again :) Something...unexpected has happened.
[06:27] <DaSkreech> !es | jesus_
[06:27] <ubotu> jesus_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Medivh: India has changed it's name to OutNoches?
[06:28] <Medivh> DaSkreech *lol* Not quite as drastic as that.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Canada has a stronger currency than the US?
[06:30] <Medivh> DaSkreech, but...upon the completion of my updates, I was simply modifying the settings to my personal flavour (My screensaver to be exact.) and...Well...This is where there would be cartoonish "Ka Boom" sounds. Black screen, and all I was left with was a white terminal cursor, blinking, endlessly.
[06:30] <Medivh> To which there was no escape from, than to hit my reboot button.
[06:30] <Medivh> I'm using the CD as a LiveCD at the moment, as my installtion is apparently...Unusable?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Medivh: you can't login?
[06:31] <Medivh> Have you ever heard of such a thing...Or...Should I just wipe the partitions and start over? I did just install it literally minutues before I came onto this channel.
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Naw it can probably be fixed. But you can't login?
[06:32] <Medivh> DaSkreech, nothing, simple blinking white cursor, I tried login I tried shutdown I tried every command I could think of, even things that would not help the situation just to see if I could. It just returned to the next line.
[06:32] <Medivh> Not as far as I can tell :S
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Hold up when you start you get past the grub menu and then it's just a cursor ?
[06:32] <Medivh> I can access the recovery console via the boot menu, but...I have absolutely no idea what is wrong.
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Medivh: can you mount the drive ?
[06:33] <Medivh> Yep :S Kubuntu does it's little start up splash screen, where the little bar fills, I'm sure you kno what I'm talking about...and then little cursor.
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Ah. hm
[06:33] <DaSkreech> that is funky
[06:33] <Medivh> DaSkreech, Indeed! :S My reaction as well.
[06:33] <DaSkreech> nothing in X should be able to do that. Much less a screensaver
[06:34] <Medivh> Yes :( Exactly my thinking as well.
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Medivh: can you mount the drive ?
[06:34] <Medivh> From the recovery console?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> from the live CD
[06:35] <Medivh> Oh, I dunno, lemme try.
[06:37] <Medivh> Hmm, happen to know the terminal command off hand?
[06:39] <cathedra> hi
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Medivh: do you know the partition?
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !ho
[06:40] <Medivh> DaSkreech, Never mind, I got it.
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ho - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !hi
[06:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Medivh: cool
[06:41] <Medivh> Yes I do :)  I got it, It mounted fine, I can access it.
[06:41] <cathedra> mm.. can I ask a question?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> !ask
[06:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:41] <Medivh> Cathedra, I believe it's an old "Support" proverb, "Don't ask to ask, just ask."
[06:41] <cathedra> ah great then I can ask my question here
[06:41] <Medivh> The bot says it all doesn't it?
[06:42] <DaSkreech> can you pastebin the file from /mountplace/var/log/dmesg.0 ?
[06:42] <cathedra> ok I will ask my question
[06:42] <Medivh> DaSkreech, yep one second.
[06:43] <cathedra> this is my question ----> how to save a wireless profile?
[06:43] <cathedra> thanks
[06:43] <cathedra> can save no settings
[06:43] <Medivh> DaSkreech, http://pastebin.com/d51eed5bc :)
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:45] <DaSkreech> that's not helpful at all :)
[06:45] <cathedra> :(
[06:45] <Medivh> DaSkreech oh wait, that wasn't the right one O_O
[06:45] <cathedra> I asked my question
[06:45] <Medivh> DaSkreech sorry, I think that was the other one, not .0
[06:45] <DaSkreech> !paitence
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paitence - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <DaSkreech> !Patience
[06:45] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:46] <Medivh> Aw, I'm slow :(
[06:46] <cathedra> how long is the waiting list?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> cathedra: Look in System settings -> networking I think
[06:46] <cathedra> DaSkreech: I did doesn't work
[06:46] <dorkface> Are there alternatives to KNetworkManager?
[06:47] <cathedra> whenever  I click save wont do it
[06:47] <DaSkreech> networkmanager
[06:47] <cathedra> anyone else have this issue?
[06:47] <Medivh> DaSkreech, http://pastebin.com/d57402e6a <-- There, this one is the dmesg.0
[06:47] <cathedra> I need several different profiles
[06:47] <cathedra> well at least two
[06:48] <cathedra> why doesn't save my profiles wireless?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure I don't use wireless :-(
[06:48] <cathedra> you know, actually I don't use kubntu
[06:48] <cathedra> I help other
[06:48] <DaSkreech> cathedra: can You do me a favour and search for it on launchpad ?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> !bug
[06:48] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:48] <cathedra> and I like Linux to be succesful
[06:49] <DaSkreech> cathedra: I'm sure. And I am sure it will be addressed
[06:50] <Medivh> Cathedra, I can handle hardware, but certainly don't know Linux as well as I should :( The only thing I really know about Wireless networks is how to set up a Mac and Windows one, sorry I can't be more helpful. :(
[06:50] <cathedra> oh another weird thing, I have a computer that doesn't shutdown and... oh wait does but weirdely. I need to logoff and shutdown from login windows
[06:50] <cathedra> otherwise the screen goes black and never fully shutsdown
[06:50] <cathedra> and also whenever I start it doesn't show the Splash screen
[06:51] <DaSkreech> cathedra: You have an application trying to block shutdown I'll beat
[06:51] <DaSkreech>  last time that happened to me I found out the Cd burner was tryingto ask me something and kept requesting the shutdown be delayed till I answered
[06:52] <Medivh> How rude.
[06:52] <cathedra> DaSkreech: mm... how can I troubleshoot? what kinda logs should I look?
[06:52] <cathedra> because whaever logs gotta be after hard reboot
[06:52] <zach_> what's a good pdf reader
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Actually it was trying to be polite
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Medivh: that's what clean shut downs do :)
[06:52] <DaSkreech> kdpf
[06:52] <DaSkreech> kpdf
[06:53] <cathedra> DaSkreech: here the screen goes black but the computer is running still
[06:53] <DaSkreech> cathedra: right
[06:53] <cathedra> zach_: !pdf
[06:53] <zach_> o_O
[06:53] <cathedra> konqueror
[06:53] <Medivh> DaSkreech, Hmm, interesting way to look at it. While you help Cathedra, I will go and get myself a beer.
[06:53] <DaSkreech> cathedra: You could press alt+ctrl+F1 to get to a new terminal and shut down from there
[06:53] <DaSkreech> !pdf | zach_
[06:53] <ubotu> zach_: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[06:53] <cathedra> DaSkreech: oh... that's why when I completely log off shutdowns properly?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> When you get the black scren
[06:54] <DaSkreech> cathedra: You could also check whats running at that time might give you an idea of the blocking process
[06:54] <cathedra> DaSkreech: he, as I said I install Kubunut on ppl that screech at the sight of having to login with a password
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Well alt+ctrl+Bkspc should be a nice get out free card for them
[06:55] <cathedra> they won't know ctrl+alt-shit/F#+TAB
[06:55] <DaSkreech> that will kill the login and give them the login window
[06:55] <cathedra> DaSkreech: I've tried that one
[06:55] <DaSkreech> they can shut down from there
[06:55] <cathedra> doesn't work
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Oh
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Hm
[06:55] <cathedra> yeah
[06:55] <DaSkreech> that's interesting
[06:56] <DaSkreech> might be a different matter then
[06:56] <cathedra> I should make it clear then
[06:56] <cathedra> DaSkreech: does remote VNC need port forwarding?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> I don't know how you have your network setup
[06:57] <cathedra> I've used VNC localy
[06:57] <DaSkreech> It may it may not
[06:57] <cathedra> no network
[06:57] <cathedra> no I mean accross the city
[06:57] <cathedra> not persoanl
[06:57] <cathedra> lol
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Yeah but at some point it needs to come to your network :)
[06:58] <cathedra> DaSkreech: but the other person would need port forwarding as well right?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> I guess that would be the safe way if you knew what machine you wanted it to go to
[06:59] <DaSkreech> or you could have a stateless forward on the gateway
[07:00] <cathedra> DaSkreech: what's stateless gateway?
[07:04] <Medivh> DaSkreech, so...did you happen to find what you were looking for in the pastebin that I updated for you?
[07:05] <cathedra> DaSkreech: what's a stateless gateway?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> If someone initiates the contact from inside the network it will pass the info through
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Medivh: nope
[07:06] <usser> cathedra: the forwarding only needs to be setup for the server the comp u connect to
[07:06] <DaSkreech> I want to know when in the start up it stops
[07:07] <Medivh> DaSkreech, so my original assessment, to...reformat the drive stands?
[07:07] <cathedra> but that other computer is  a single user not on a network
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Do you have a seperate home partition ?
[07:11] <Medivh> DaSkreech...Eh no :(
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Medivh: Do you have data that you need to save?
[07:12] <Medivh> DaSkreech, No, Like I said, I just installed Kubuntu from the CD mere minutes before coming on here.
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Ah :) how much space did you give it?
[07:13] <Medivh> 1gig for swap (Which is overkill, or so I'm told, but I always make it equal to my actual RAM...Is that bad?) And the remaining 79gigs on the SATA drive for the actual distro.
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Medivh: give / like 10 Gigs and make /home the rest of the drive
[07:14] <Medivh> Ok, so make 3 actual partitions.
[07:15] <Medivh> Never done that before, is it...typical? Or did I actually install this incorrectly?
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Medivh: No it's cool :)
[07:15] <DaSkreech> All your data gets stored in /home
[07:16] <DaSkreech> if you put it on a different parititon and you get the itch to reinstall you can blow away / and don't format /home
[07:16] <DaSkreech>  all of you documents and data is safe and you have a new fresh system
[07:16] <kerry_> how do i install more then one thing with a konsole?
[07:16] <DaSkreech> the sweet part is cause your personal settings are saved in your home folder all the apps remember the last song you opened etc :)
[07:17] <DaSkreech> kerry_: apt-get install thing1 thing 2
[07:17] <kerry_> DaSkreech: i got tru to install linux with xp but it take up a lot alltho i told it%  gigs
[07:18] <Medivh> DaSkreech, Lovely!
[07:18] <kerry_>  gigsDaSkreech: the ext is like
[07:18] <DaSkreech> kerry_: Umm ok. How much did it take up?
[07:18] <Medivh> DaSkreech, Well I'll do that now, so...I'll probably be watching TV while it's going, so count me AFK until it's done ;)
[07:18] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:18] <DaSkreech> probably won't take too long :)
[07:19] <Medivh_Away> Probably not, but it gives me time to watch the news and finish my beer >.> *Turns attention to BBC*
[07:19] <tazgodx> does anyone know how to install java SDK and/or JRE 1.5?
[07:19] <tazgodx> or higher?
[07:19] <DaSkreech> !java
[07:19] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:19] <kerry_> DaSkreech: it was a thing that scrolls left to rightby default it was like half way i braught it to the left marking %
[07:19] <DaSkreech> right
[07:20] <Daisuke_Ido> good evening
[07:21] <kerry_> DaSkreech: it look like linux does work backwords :(
[07:21] <tazgodx> well, it says its already teh newest version, but when frostwire tries to load it tells me to install java 1.5 or later
[07:23] <DaSkreech> kerry_: how much % did you put it at?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !frostwire
[07:23] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:24] <Medivh_Away> DaSkreech, so before I start this, I made the 10 gigs to root, as you suggested. And the remaining 71 to /home as the mount point, correct?
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Medivh_Away:
[07:24] <kerry_> DaSkreech: 10
[07:24] <DaSkreech> cool
[07:24] <Medivh_Away> DaSkreech, lovely, back to the news then.
[07:24] <DaSkreech> kerry_: of?
[07:25] <kerry_> DaSkreech: 10 gig to install linux
[07:25] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:25] <DaSkreech> that's fine
[07:27] <kerry_> DaSkreech: that what i choose in the option when it finish install i check it on xp it take up 57 gig's
[07:27] <DaSkreech> That doesn't sound right
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Linux os generally pretty good about doing what it is told
[07:29] <DaSkreech> is
[07:29] <cosmo_> is the procedure pretty much the same on gutsy as it was on fiesty for enabling dual monitors?
[07:30] <kerry_> and it generally does go crazy sometimes too DaSkreech
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: but it *only* does what it's told, it doesn't take initiative
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> how big is this drive?
[07:31] <snowdonkey> Hi.  How do I return to a regular user again after doing "sudo -i" in the console?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: Isn't that the hallmark of a computer
[07:31] <DaSkreech>  rather than the HAL-mark ?
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: not with an OS from that "other" company
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> snowdonkey: 'exit'
[07:31] <DaSkreech> ^D
[07:31] <snowdonkey> daisuke_Ido: Thank you much!
[07:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i wish all the questions were that easy :D
[07:32] <DaSkreech> :)
[07:32] <Daisuke_Ido> kerry_: how big is the hard drive you're installing onto?
[07:32] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: If you could help cathedra that would rock
[07:33] <chequers> Daisuke_Ido: how long is a piece of string? :p
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> cathedra'
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> err
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> his issue is going deep into things i'm not familiar with
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> but here's the thing with kerry
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> he wanted 10gb
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> set it to 10%
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> at any drive size other than 100gb, the two aren't equal
[07:35] <DaSkreech> That's what I'm thinking
[07:35] <DaSkreech> but a 570GB drive?
[07:35] <cathedra> Daisuke_Ido: what?
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry, i know, !enter and all of that...  well, what about swap space?  i can see 7gb being used...
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> cathedra: sorry for highlighting you, was just saying that your issue goes well beyond what i know about networking :)
[07:36] <kerry_> Daisuke_Ido: i got a 160 gig i went to install xp and part it in 3 then i went to install linux it wasnt seing the 3 part just one(160gig)like it was never parted.so i choose to do an partion of 10% when i did next is when linux detected i got 3 part i did back it come back to 1.so i give up and continue to install how it see the hdd i choose 14%(10gig's) for linux when it install it take up 57gig's :-(
[07:36] <pramod> I have GRUB installed on my PC...
[07:37] <pramod> I use both WinXP and Kubuntu
[07:37] <cathedra> Daisuke_Ido: ok
[07:37] <pramod> by default it is to load on Kubuntu...
[07:37] <pramod> how i make it load on Win XP by befault?
[07:38] <dorkface> Tip:  If you plan on cleaning out the windows partition, and reinstalling it, remember that windows writes over the boot sector, and grub won't load up after windows is installed
[07:38] <pramod> yeah.. ok...
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> pramod: there's a setting in grub
[07:38] <pramod> that's why... i installed XP first then Linux...
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> lemme look real quick
[07:38] <pramod> okie...
[07:39] <pramod> how i access the setting?
[07:39] <cosmo_>  is the procedure pretty much the same on gutsy as it was on fiesty for enabling dual monitors? as far as modifying the xorg.conf
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll have to do a quick edit :)
[07:39] <pramod> quick edit?
[07:40] <pramod> how can i do a quick edit?
[07:40] <kerry_> Daisuke_Ido: my linux is install on 57gig how do i put it to 10gig?
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> kerry_: not sure, i never shrink partitions in linux :)
[07:41] <kerry_> Daisuke_Ido: i try partition magic it cant shrink ext's
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> pramod: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> kerry_: might try gparted or qtparted
[07:42] <DaSkreech> cosmo_: should be
[07:42] <pramod> okie am in it...
[07:42] <pramod> then?
[07:42] <kerry_> the people who do kubuntu should make the instalment more understading
[07:42] <DaSkreech> kerry_: You will have to do that from the live CD
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> scroll down until you see your windows entry
[07:42] <kerry_> it's crappy
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> kerry_: the installer is nicer than most operating systems, especially windows.
[07:43] <pramod> okie
[07:43] <pramod> yeah it is down....
[07:43] <pramod> at the last section...
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> is there a line at the bottom of it that says "savedefault"?
[07:43] <pramod> yeah there is...
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> good
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> go all the way back up to the top
[07:43] <kerry_> DaSkreech: cd live?will i have to install something to do that?
[07:43] <pramod> okie
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> there's a line that says "default          0"
[07:44] <pramod> wait i will check
[07:44] <pramod> yeah got it...
[07:44] <pramod> then?
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> change 0 to saved
[07:44] <pramod> what should i put?
[07:44] <Medivh_Away> Rebooting :)
[07:44] <pramod> change it to saved?
[07:44] <pramod> okie...
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> yes, it should say default saved
[07:45] <pramod> got it....
[07:45] <pramod> then?
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> save the file
[07:45] <pramod> okie saved...
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> and close er up
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> you're all done
[07:45] <pramod> well i should not have changed anything else?
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> what that did is...  whatever you last selected (be it linux or xp) will become your default until you choose another one :)
[07:46] <pramod> ah aloright...
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> i just wanted to make sure that windows would save as default before having you change that line
[07:46] <pramod> thanx brother...
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> you're quite welcome
[07:46] <pramod> okie i will try it...
[07:46] <pramod> c ya..
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> select windows when you rebooy
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> reboot*
[07:47] <DaSkreech> That's neat :)
[07:47] <pramod> oki
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> after that it will default to windows
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Now if I could only find a way for the kernels to output info after they are installed
[07:48] <kerry_> i try to install linux on 10gig but it was install on 57 gig.how do i shrink linux?
[07:48] <pramod> lol got some updates to make...
[07:49] <DaSkreech> kerry_: With qtparted or Gparted
[07:49] <DaSkreech> kerry_: they are on the live CD reboot into the Live cd and run either one
[07:50] <pramod> how can we make .nrg images and mount it on linux???
[07:50] <kerry_> DaSkreech: u will help me right?dont go sleep on me hien
[07:50] <kerry_> brb
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: going to be up for another 20-30 minutes?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> hi medivh
[07:51] <pramod> can we make images from the K3B application provided by linux?
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> you can make images, but not nero format images
[07:51] <pramod> then how we mount them on linux?
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> you're limited to pretty much iso and bin/cue (much to my dreamcast loving dismay
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> )
[07:51] <medivh> DaSkreech, ello again :) Everything is good so far as I can tell, I just need to run the xorg reconfiguration again, and update stuff...But meh *Shrug* No biggie.
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: i'm actually headed out in a minute
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> sleep time
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Me too
[07:52] <DaSkreech> You can mount .nrgs in linux
[07:52] <DaSkreech>  there is an app in kde-apps
[07:53] <pramod> which app is it?
[07:53] <DaSkreech> *shrugs*
[07:53] <DaSkreech> search for .nrg
[07:53] <DaSkreech>  It's a service menu I think
[07:53] <pramod> okie...
[07:53] <pramod> lemme c...
[07:54] <medivh> DaSkreech, do you believe I should report my... Black screen of doom as a bug or something? It just bothers me that, that happened.
[07:54] <DaSkreech> If you can replicate it
[07:54] <DaSkreech> What screensaver was it?
[07:54] <medivh> The fireworks one, a personal favourite :}
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Have you looked at the setup?
[07:55] <DaSkreech> they have some crazy fun stuff in there
[07:55] <medivh> Yes, infact I was just done setting it up and had hit apply when...Death by Cursor happened to befall my poor partition.
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Well I just played with it
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Seems ok
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Hey medivh think that you can handle a partition resize?
[07:57] <medivh> I'm doing things in different order this time hehe, Updates first, then Xorg, then all that fun stuff.
[07:57] <medivh> DaSkreech, do I know how to do it? Without repartitioning, I don't :S
[07:57] <ubuntu> Daisuke_Ido: ok zhqt do i do to shrink linux
[07:57] <DaSkreech> medivh: :)
[07:58] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Kubuntu live Cd ?
[07:58] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: yes
[07:58] <DaSkreech> press alt+space -> type qtp -> press enter
[07:59] <ubuntu> how do i change the keyboard layout first
[08:00] <DaSkreech> system settings -> regional settings
[08:01] <reldruh> hello. I'm trying to set up a second display (a TV with a VGA input) using the VGA output on my nvidia card, but the screen isn't recognized when I plug it in. Is there an easy way to set this up?
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[08:01] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: didnt help.oh zell to the qtq thing
[08:02] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Didn't open qtparted ?
[08:02] <medivh> !hi
[08:02] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:02] <DaSkreech> !twinview
[08:02] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> I am planning to do a fresh install this weekend after more than 1.5 years... As usual, I am pondering about the partitioning scheme that would fit my needs best...
[08:02] <DaSkreech> !dualhead
[08:02] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[08:02] <DaSkreech> reldruh: ^^
[08:03] <medivh> Dual Head lol
[08:03] <reldruh> thank you :-)
[08:03] <medivh> Makes it sound like Scylla out of Greek Mythology
[08:03] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i dont understand
[08:03] <ubuntu> this thing it long
[08:03] <MilhousePunkRock> !ping
[08:03] <ubotu> pong
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: press alt+space somthing will come up on the screen. type qtp It should say QTparted then press enter
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !test
[08:04] <ubotu> Failed.
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Ph :- (
[08:04] <medivh> Oi lol
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[08:04] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !helpersnack | medivh
[08:04] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i did it allredy
[08:04] <ubotu> medivh: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You clicked on your drive ?
[08:05] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: its there but its like its 4 ti;e ;y screen
[08:05] <ubuntu> its long
[08:05] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: did thqt
[08:05] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Just resize the window to see it better
[08:05] <DaSkreech>  right click on the 56 GB partition and choose resize
[08:05] <MilhousePunkRock> I have 30 GB to spend... Was thinking about 10 for / and the rest for /home. The only concern that I have is that I might have to install Windows later on *sigh*
[08:05] <medivh> Shouldn't you be getting the helper snacks DaSkreech? hehe
[08:06] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i try to rezize it didnt zork
[08:06] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Install Windows ona USB drive and just use that when needed
[08:06] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: What did it say?
[08:06] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, Only 30 gigs for two operating systems? O_o *Lol* /agree with DaSkreech's suggestion.
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Mil
[08:07] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Or start looking into how to strip Windows to make it smaller
[08:07] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: say.it didnt say nothing
[08:07] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: it only got info of the hdd
[08:07] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech medivh: I am not going to install Windows right now, I just have to make sure I could when I have to later... From what I read now, it does not even matter which partition it gets...
[08:07] <DaSkreech> You set the size you wanted it to be ?
[08:08] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: not yet im looking to ere i does set the size
[08:08] <DaSkreech> Right click and choose resize
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> I won't need more than let's say 5 GB for home, since I do not handle big files or many stuff here, it's only my laptop... There is an external 250 GB on the desktop and 400 GB of NAS space available...
[08:09] <ubuntu> DaSkreech:  its grey i cant clic on resize
[08:09] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, If you wondering the minimum I've ever put Windows on it was 10 gigs :S But you're correct in saying it doesn't care.
[08:09] <DaSkreech> You clicked on the drive and it's showing the right partitions ?
[08:09] <gunashekar> hi
[08:10] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: yes ext 3 56gig
[08:10] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: it got linux logo
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Even if I did install Windows later on, it won't get big. Just the essential parts, maybe OOo and Fx. And a few poker games... Plus the specialised software that requires me to run Windows at all
[08:11] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: it has an option active.zat is it
[08:11] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, so then it sounds like to me that you have far more than enough space to spare :) But as for Window's minimums space, Are we talking Vista or XP?
[08:12] <DaSkreech> Huh. You are supposed to have other options
[08:12] <medivh> I was under the impression that Vista requires a fair bit more space.
[08:12] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: All the partitions give you no options other than active ?
[08:12] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: XP that is... Vista won't run on this rig, at least not in a way that it was worth to prefer Vista over XP, if there are reasons for that at all
[08:13] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i can resize all the other exept linnnnnux
[08:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Good thing is, from my university, I have access to all sorts of Windows isos legally... I even downloaded Vista, never burned the discs though
[08:14] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Oh ok ... I guess you could delete it and set it to what you want and reinstall
[08:14] <DaSkreech> try a ext3 partition
[08:14] <DaSkreech> medivh: Define "fair"
[08:15] <medivh> DaSkreech, More than XP, but less than Mutiple copies of World of Warcraft? ;) lol
[08:15] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: delet and reinstall u got to be kidding
[08:15] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Well if it won't let you resize
[08:15] <DaSkreech> It's ext2 "
[08:15] <DaSkreech> ?
[08:15] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, I can give you a thousand and one reasons to hate Vista *cough* But I wont go there ;) I'd say at least 7gigs, and if you need special software, leave 10. So you said you want 10 for root? Go 10 root, 10 /home and 9ish for Windows (Assuming for swap)
[08:16] <DaSkreech> !windows
[08:16] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:16] <medivh> LOL!
[08:16] <reldruh> if I upgraded to Gutsy, with the XRandR with ouput hotplugging, would it automatically configure my second monitor without having to edit xorg.conf?
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: So that is 20 for /home until the day comes...
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> !lol | medivh
[08:16] <ubotu> medivh: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[08:17] <medivh> Truth, sorry, WoW habit.
[08:17] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: zhy will i wqnt help from window when im on linux
[08:17] <medivh> Being an English teacher I should know bette.r
[08:17] <medivh> better.*
[08:17] <DaSkreech> you know Bette R? I love her stuff!!!
[08:18] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: What do you mean?
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> before I started googleing this morning, I was under the impression Win would require to be on hda1. Which does not seem to be the case...
[08:18] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, Yep, I'd say so...But you'd have to give a little pull for swap, even if it's tiny ;) Don't forget that.
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Well he doesn't need a swap
[08:18] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: u told me to go to window ch
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Being on only 512 MB, I know the need for swap...
[08:18] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: No that was for MilhousePunkRock
[08:19] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: That was for me and medivh
[08:19] <MilhousePunkRock> reldruh: Gutsy is in #ubuntu+1 until the final release
[08:20] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, 512? :( Would you like me to buy you RAM?
[08:20] <MilhousePunkRock> By the way, is there something like Wine, but for MacOS applications? Scientist are somewhat hooked on Mac OS...
[08:20] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: oh lol how my na;e is ubuntu i get confuse
[08:20] <ubuntu> lol
[08:21] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: change it
[08:21] <DaSkreech> !nick
[08:21] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:21] <DaSkreech> or something like that :)
[08:21] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Definetly... I think the machine can take up to 2 GB, but it's an older Laptop, so getting good ram for it is somewhat difficult
[08:21] <DaSkreech> medivh: I'd like a PS3 thanks :)
[08:21] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: i knoz hoz to change it but i can find the sy;bol
[08:21] <DaSkreech> try /nick newnick
[08:21] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: I started with Kubuntu Dapper on only 256 MB
[08:22] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: the keyboard is in confution
[08:22] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: in any case sort out your keyboard
[08:22] <DaSkreech> you can run parted from the command line with sudo parted
[08:22] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: try it allready it didnt zork
[08:22] <DaSkreech>  that can resize ext2
[08:22] <ubuntu> lol
[08:22] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: sudo parted won't resize ?
[08:22] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, I actually was on Dapper until just recently, granted I've been updating my box, so at the moment I have 1.5gigs I believe >.>
[08:23] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: just sudo parted
[08:23] <DaSkreech> and that doesn't run ?
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: In the lab, I am currently using an oooold iMac (one of those candy-colored all-in-one CRT screen machines) with only 196 MB or something
[08:23] <medivh> Time for Zorg >.>
[08:24] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: can you walk through a resize of a partition /
[08:24] <DaSkreech> ?
[08:24] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, ah, I think I once destroyed one of those for personal entertainment >.>
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: I have always used either the GPartEd live CD or parted on the shell
[08:25] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: great can you walk ubuntu through resizing his 56 GB ext2 partition to 10 GB
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: And there is OS X on it, for some reason... All the desktop effects work almost smooth...
[08:26] <ubuntu> DaSkreech:its an ext3
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Oh?
[08:26] <DaSkreech> really?
[08:26] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, really? Wow.
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: Well... I could at least try, but with no guarantee whatsoever
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: So what's the current status?
[08:27] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Compiz could learn a lot about the performance from its role model ;)
[08:27] <medivh> I have an old laptop, no name, I think it was made before penitum, thing is bloody ancient. It has Windows 98 on it and it takes about a half hour just to turn on :P
[08:28] <ubuntu> MilhousePunkRock: mm when i try installing linux on 10 gig it take up 56gigs i qant to shrink it to 10gigs
[08:28] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: You should try xubuntu on that, you'd be surprised...
[08:28] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: Well, it does not seem to have been parted, what's the cli tool that gives you sort of a menu with numbers to choose the options for partitioning?
[08:29] <DaSkreech> fdisk but that's destructive
[08:29] <DaSkreech> open up onqueror and type man:/parted
[08:29] <ubuntu> ,,,mmm...
[08:29] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock You know I was really thinking about it, but there has been a lot of family chaos recently, and as such, I actually lost the power supply >.< So until I can find that again, I'll be putting off my Xubuntu plans.
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: Are you trying to use the inbuilt partitioning tool during the kubuntu installation?
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: I think it was cfdisk, let me check
[08:29] <DaSkreech> Night all
[08:29] <DaSkreech> ok
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: I just got myself a secondary power supply for around 10 bucks on eBay
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: Night!
[08:31] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: ....
[08:31] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, yeah but finding one for something this old...I dunno :S
[08:31] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: OK, I got a plan... 1. I get myself some coffee, in the meantime you open a shell (Hit "Alt-F2" and type "konsole").
[08:32] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: lol just to ope a konsole
[08:32] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: ...
[08:32] <medivh> Excuse my random leave :P
[08:33] <medivh> When I hit OK on that Window...X just went O NOEZ
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Do you have more than one physical drive?
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: If not, run "sudo cfdisk"
[08:34] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: no just 1 that is parted in ;any
[08:34] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i dont zant to reinstall linux
[08:34] <calvete> #ubuntu-br
[08:35] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: You are on the Live CD right now, are you?
[08:35] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Welcome back
[08:35] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: yes
[08:35] <medivh> MilhousePunkRock, Thanks :)
[08:36] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: cfdisk open? I am not sure if this will work on the live cd
[08:37] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i have 1 hdd that parted in ;any do i stll run cfdisk
[08:37] <medivh> Erk >.<
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Yeah, at least try it
[08:37] <medivh> My resolultion isn't fixed >.<
[08:38] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: Opened disk read-only - you have no permission to writ
[08:38] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: thqt za the konsole said
[08:38] <medivh> Ooo yay, I got it.
[08:39] <HackAvatar> jeez I just bought a 22" LCD and it is leet :)
[08:40] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: ...
[08:41] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Quit cfdisk and try again with "sudo cfdisk sda"
[08:41] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Could be hda instead of sda, depending on the type of your hdd
[08:42] <MilhousePunkRock> !ping
[08:42] <ubotu> pong
[08:42] <mirko> ciao
[08:43] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: sudo cfdisk sda
[08:43] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Does that work? If not, it should be hda instead of sda
[08:43] <sleepy>  FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[08:43] <sleepy>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[08:44] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock:
[08:44] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Try hda
[08:44] <sleepy> my hdd is sata
[08:44] <sleepy> sda
[08:44] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Then it should be sda, I assume
[08:44] <sleepy> yes
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> And that gives you the fatal error?
[08:45] <sleepy> yes
[08:45] <sleepy> 2 of them
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Weird...
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Do you have a fast internet connection, sleepy?
[08:46] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: should i enable zrite its ;ayby that the probb
[08:46] <MilhousePunkRock> If so, I'd suggest downloading the GPartEd Live CD, that has always worked for me
[08:46] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: hoz big it is
[08:46] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Is the partiton mounted?
[08:47] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: no
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: It's 49 MB
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[08:49] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i dont have a blank cd
[08:50] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Hmm... Too bad... It should be possible with cfdisk though.
[08:50] <MilhousePunkRock> I wonder how...
[08:51] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i; on cfdisk
[08:52] <waylandbill> sleepy: off to the store you go to get a blank cd then. :-P
[08:52] <sleepy> hahahaha 2 in the morning
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: ?? Did cfdisk open without the error?
[08:52] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: yes
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> So you see a table of your partitions now?
[08:53] <sleepy> nope all i see is pri;ary logical cancel
[08:54] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: choos primary right
[08:54] <lee__> ok
[08:54] <sleepy> ...
[08:54] <lee__> i have one question befor I hit the hay....where do I get talkers at?
[08:55] <lee__> eh anyone?
[08:55] <gunashekar> sleepy hits hay while the sun shnes
[08:56] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Does it look like this somehow: http://www.spongedpics.com/upload/WY1192258529W47106be1bb114-Bildschirmphoto9.png
[08:56] <lee__> lol... well Iam trying to figure out the tts on this thing and I have no vioces
[08:57] <lee__> ?
[08:57] <achilles> Aloha all, i need help I only get logout button in logout menu in Kubuntu after the kde base upgrade
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> lee__: tts as in TeamSpeak with an accidental second t?
[08:58] <lee__> as in text-speech
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> lee__: No idea, sorry...
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> achilles: You will probably have to grant the right to shutdown to all users
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Still there?
[08:58] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: http://www.spongedpics.com/index.php
[08:58] <lee__> running a 64 bit systemm...a freind of mine on ehre hsowed me how to get it to run flash
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: That's not the URL of the picture, but the homepage
[08:59] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: it takes time zhit this keyboard
[09:00] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: http://www.spongedpics.com/upload/WN1192258690W47106c823a2db-snapshot1.png
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Weren't we talking about 56 GB earlier?
[09:01] <sleepy> yes
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Do you have more than one drive? Maybe it is sdb instead?
[09:01] <medivh> I'm going to bed everyone :)
[09:01] <medivh> Have a good night.
[09:01] <sleepy> whet option do i choose
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> medivh: Sleep well
[09:01] <medivh> You too Milhouse :)
[09:01] <sleepy> let te bed bugs bite
[09:02] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: hoz did u get to the part zhere u see your partitions
[09:02] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: It seems you picked the wrong drive, maybe...
[09:03] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: no i typa sudo cf.... and this is the firts page i got
[09:03] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: unless i have to mount all hdd
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: sudo cfdisk <thedesireddrive> ??
[09:04] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: oh i didnt knoz
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Changing the partition table on a mounted drive is not a smart idea...
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: So leave it unmounted, but pick the right one, I'd say it should be sda
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: So type: "sudo cfdisk sda"
[09:06] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: theres no nu;ber that goes zhit it
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: No, you want to open the whole drive, not just one partitio
[09:07] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: fatal error
[09:08] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: How is the drive usually addressed? Is it sda at all?
[09:09] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock:  ys
[09:09] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: zhen i went to mount it it was sda
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Is the drive mounted right now?
[09:10] <sleepy> no
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm...
[09:11] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: u know i;, going to reinstaal but u wiil help ;e i dont want it to take up a lot of space] 
[09:11] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: When it was mounted, could you access it properly? Maybe there's a module missing so the drive doesn't work properly on the Live CD
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: There is no need to reinstall, actually... And the partitoning tool during the installation usually does what it is supposed to...
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Don't you have a CD-RW that could be deleted either? I think GPartEd would be the easiest solution
[09:15] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: yes but my conection is only 512
[09:15] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: So downloading takes about 15 minutes...
[09:15] <sleepy> that a lot
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: If you did it when I mentioned it before, you'd be done already...
[09:16] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i got blanks cd but there a are lightscribe
[09:17] <sleepy> i dont zant to zast 1 for that
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Your choice... Do you have a USB thumb drive, maybe?
[09:18] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: thumb
[09:19] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: gparted not doznloading
[09:23] <sleepy> i quit
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: I'd say, "waste" one of those CD-Rs and try GPartEd...
[09:26] <Scunizi> What is the name of the plugin for Konquer or Kaffeine to play wmv files from the web
[09:27] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: it not doznloading.hoz do i joind partition to ;ake 1
[09:28] <sleepy> Scunizi: free so;thing
[09:28] <sleepy> som;ehing
[09:29] <sleepy> lol dan; keyboard
[09:29] <Scunizi> sleepy, can you be more specific?
[09:29] <sleepy> Scunizi: non free
[09:30] <Scunizi> sleepy.. but what do i search for in adept? non free?
[09:30] <sleepy> Scunizi: nonfree
[09:31] <Scunizi> flash plugin-nonfree I already have.. looking for something that will play mgp
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: Why is it not downloading? Try a different mirror
[09:32] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: i allredy delet linux
[09:32] <sleepy> MilhousePunkRock: how to join them
[09:33] <sleepy> i give up
[09:33] <sleepy> bye
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> sleepy: The partitions? Well, with cfdisk or GPartEd or QtParted... Just try again when installing, it is supposed to work
[09:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Can Dolphin sort by file type?
[10:04] <akrill> my laptop's touchpad is too slow, how can i increase the cursor speed?
[10:13] <medivh> Erg :( Insomnia ftl.
[10:15] <hangthedj> !ksynaptics
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksynaptics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <hangthedj> !find ksynaptics
[10:16] <ubotu> Found: ksynaptics
[10:16] <hangthedj> !info ksynaptics
[10:16] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[10:16] <akrill> installed it heh. thanks
[10:17] <kopco> can somebody help to me?? I have problem with program Envy :(
[10:17] <medivh> !kbfx
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <newsense07> !bot abuse
[10:17] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[10:17] <hangthedj> who's abusing the bots?
[10:17] <medivh> I fail to see what prompted that.
[10:17] <kopco> !info envy
[10:17] <ubotu> Package envy does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:17] <hangthedj> err bot
[10:17] <pag> !envy | kopco
[10:17] <ubotu> kopco: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:18] <akrill> wow, kubuntu 64-bit is so much faster than 32-bit on my box
[10:18] <akrill> its amazing the diff
[10:18] <medivh> Don't suppose anyone ues KBFX?
[10:18] <newsense07> hangthedj: wasnt meant twords you, sorry
[10:18] <hangthedj> k
[10:19] <newsense07> hangthedj: was trying to select something else in irc history
[10:19] <pag> medivh, I've used it for maybe two hours - does it count? :P
[10:19] <hangthedj> heres a tip to people: if your trying to find something only for yourself
[10:19] <hangthedj> try /msg ubotu !ksynaptic for example
[10:20] <hangthedj> or /msg ubotu !find ksynaptic
[10:20] <hangthedj> it will give you a private message.
[10:20] <linux_stu> anyone know if there is a file that can be edited to make changes to kde settings rather than use the control center?
[10:20] <newsense07> hangthedj: sorry again, was selecting a previous  comment and selected the wrong one
[10:20] <contrast83> Anyone know what would cause KNetworkManager to not list any devices on right-click even though I *am* online?
[10:20] <hangthedj> i know, i was just giving a tip. :)
[10:21] <medivh> pag, heh, well I don't believe it's working like it should, which frusterates meh.
[10:21] <newsense07> hangthedj: im not a newb, just a little drunk
[10:21] <medivh> me* too I have no idea where that H came from lol
[10:21] <newsense07> lol
[10:21] <pag> linux_stu, ~/.kde/share/config/$ConfigFileYouNeed - there's no general file, that has acces to all settings iirc
[10:21] <pag> hmph. he left :(
[10:22] <flokuehn> ill tell him if i meet
[10:22] <newsense07> i hate irc'ing when im drunk and trying to figure out the channel ban or if i was really drunk the g-line in the morning lol
[10:22] <hangthedj> contrast83, i have a atheros driver, and sometimes that happens to me.  i have to sudo killall NetworkManager && sudo NetworkManager
[10:22] <hangthedj> and it usually fixes itself
[10:22] <contrast83> hangthedj: leave knetworkmanager running while you do that?
[10:23] <hangthedj> contrast83, yeah
[10:23] <pag> medivh, could you be more specific - how does it work, and how it should in your opinion work?
[10:23] <hangthedj> in fact, i wrote a little shell script to do it.
[10:24] <hangthedj> it usually only happens when i'm trying to connect to unsecure networks away from home, if that makes any sense.
[10:24] <medivh> pag, I've got it never mind, it was...frusteratingly vauge.
[10:24] <contrast83> hangthedj: It does... Didn't work though, but thanks anyway. :)
[10:25] <newsense07> contrast83: using dhcp ?
[10:25] <hangthedj> it usually takes a second for me. if your using madwifi.. .in my script i sudo modprobe -r ath-pci && sudo modprobe ath-pci
[10:25] <contrast83> newsense07: yeah
[10:25] <newsense07> contrast83: if so might want to renew your lease with dhcpclient or whatever client you use
[10:25] <contrast83> newsense07: umm... dumb question, but how might i do that?
[10:26] <newsense07> sudo dhclient3 ?
[10:26] <contrast83> newsense07: still no dice, thanks though. :-)
[10:27] <contrast83> it'll probably fix itself eventually. just started recently with a recent gutsy update.
[10:27] <newsense07> what chipset is the card and what kernel you using ?
[10:27] <contrast83> (and for the record, i already asked in #ubuntu+1 and didn't get anywhere. :-) )
[10:27] <hangthedj> contrast83, what is your wireless card?
[10:28] <newsense07> contrast83: what module were you using under your previous kernel ?
[10:28] <contrast83> Cisco Aironet / 2.6.22-14
[10:28] <newsense07> and now ?
[10:28] <contrast83> newsense07: not sure, it just worked out of the box. like i said, the card is working fine now. it's just that knetworkmanager isn't.
[10:29] <contrast83> madwifi modules if it worked ootb, right?
[10:29] <hangthedj> there are alternatives to knetworkmanager, like kwlan, which is pretty nice, and wireless assistant
[10:29] <hangthedj> i like kwlan
[10:30] <contrast83> i'll check that out, thanks a lot. been wondering whether there was a good alternative for a while now, just been too lazy to look.
[10:31] <hangthedj> if your running gutsy, its in the repositories.
[10:31] <contrast83> are there any network manager frontends that would be good for war driving? i.e., it automatically tries to connect to the strongest unencrypted signal?
[10:31] <hangthedj> in universe
[10:32] <newsense07> contrast83: airsnort or kizmit maybe
[10:32] <contrast83> newsense07: thanks
[10:33] <newsense07> contrast83: err kismit might be the right spelling for that app
[10:33] <hangthedj> i don't think airsnort or kizmit are very automatic
[10:34] <newsense07> hangthedj: from what i remember airsnort is
[10:34] <akrill> kismet
[10:34] <akrill> its kismet
[10:34] <newsense07> hangthedj: been a while since i needed to test the strength of my hex key
[10:35] <newsense07> akrill: thanks, been a while since ive used "those sort" of apps
[10:35] <akrill> no prob
[10:35] <hangthedj> airsnort cracks stuff, but you need other programs to connect after you crack them
[10:36] <akrill> i want to know when a new KisMac is coming out.
[10:36] <newsense07> contrast83: never tried it, if knetworkmanager ever disappears ill give it a try
[10:37] <hangthedj> kwlan constantly monitors your connects, where knetworkmanager tries a couple times and stops.
[10:37] <contrast83> it lets you set it to run a script upon connecting to certain networks, and since i'm still doing "sudo mount <nfs-share> /mount/point" for networking, that'll make things easier
[10:38] <contrast83> hangthedj: from my first impression, you have to tell it that it's ok to connect to an unfamiliar network. am i wrong?
[10:38] <newsense07> contrast83: why not a script to mount your nfs sharres too ?
[10:38] <akrill> ummm how do i get knetworkmanager back working after installing kwlan
[10:38] <contrast83> newsense07: i have one, actually. i just mean it'll be nice to have it automated. :-)
[10:39] <hangthedj> contrast83, not sure, there might be a config option for that.  i only use it when knetworkmanager is being dumb.
[10:39] <contrast83> oh ok
[10:39] <CH1P> My ethernet card is not getting detected and i am new to kubuntu please help, the forums do not contain the solution
[10:39] <hangthedj> which is only when i'm at a random coffee shop, which is not often
[10:40] <newsense07> contrast83: i hear ya man, i myself had to put together a couple scripts for various tasks, havent done that since i had my debian box a feqw yrs back
[10:40] <contrast83> i actually kind of enjoy making scripts.
[10:40] <newsense07> CH1P: how do you know its not being detected ?
[10:41] <CH1P> newsense07: i cannot see the wired connection and modconf too cant identify it
[10:41] <hangthedj> CH1P, what does lspci|grep Ethernet do
[10:42] <newsense07> hangthedj: ya asked my next ?
[10:42] <hangthedj> i'll come back later, i gotta sleep
[10:43] <newsense07> gn man
[10:43] <CH1P> hangthedj: i am on windows right now
[10:43] <X314Z159> Blasphermy!
[10:43] <akrill> seriously, how do i re-enable networkmanager
[10:44] <newsense07> CH1P: can ya remove any ms brand os'es and call me in the morning
[10:44] <newsense07> jk
[10:44] <contrast83> akrill: i'm trying to figure that out atm too
[10:44] <akrill> i made the mistake of trying kwlan
[10:44] <akrill> which sucks.
[10:44] <akrill> and now i cant get networkmanager back
[10:44] <newsense07> sudo dpkg--reconfigure knetwork-manager ?
[10:45] <akrill> mmm ponderous. will do that after this restart
[10:45] <newsense07> probobly the easiest way i would think
[10:45] <akrill> oh, and how do i get kubuntu to load ndiswrapper at startup? its been a loooong time since i played with that stuff
[10:45] <CH1P> "wired connection" or "ethernet" doesn't appear in administration > network
[10:47] <contrast83> ohh, actually, kwlan conflicts with knetworkmanager. just noticed that.
[10:47] <newsense07> ndiswrapper blows
[10:48] <akrill> contrast83: apt-get remove kwlan
[10:48] <akrill> contrast83: apt-get install knetworkmanager
[10:48] <X314Z159> newsense07: you want to know what blows? trying to install Ubuntu on your laptop and the processor burns up.
[10:48] <akrill> i just realized that too
[10:49] <akrill> X314Z159: ?!
[10:49] <newsense07> X314Z159: yeah that takes the cake
[10:49] <X314Z159> apparently ubuntu had some problem with my special model of laptop, the processor overheats. thats what i found out.. afterwards..
[10:50] <newsense07> X314Z159: dont feel bad, ive been without a computer/internet for 3 yrs since my 2800 dollar laptop was stolen
[10:50] <X314Z159> ouch.
[10:50] <newsense07> X314Z159: not a sager is it, i had one and it was nicknamed "the toaster"
[10:50] <X314Z159> newsense07: I have so many spares so It doesnt matter.. but I had only one laptop ><
[10:51] <X314Z159> the toster \o/
[10:51] <newsense07> X314Z159: can ya send me a box, ill pay s+h
[10:53] <picca> does kubuntu desktop contain the full openldap, but just not configured to startup as a daemon?
[10:53] <X314Z159> newsense07: hehe. but its expensive to send stuff ><
[10:54] <newsense07> X314Z159: send me a core2 duo and ill pay the s+h lmao
[10:54] <newsense07> X314Z159: box i got now is a p42.6ht i got out the trash
[10:54] <X314Z159> newsense07: haha. I dont have any duo cores.. well.. I have 2 but my brother has em
[10:55] <newsense07> X314Z159: im very poor
[10:55] <newsense07> X314Z159: im using a neighbors wifi connect
[10:55] <X314Z159> newsense07: I
[10:55] <X314Z159> I'm poor to, I just have allot of computers
[10:55] <X314Z159> too*
[10:56] <newsense07> X314Z159: im just playing with ya except the part about my trash pc an being poor and hungry
[10:56] <newsense07> X314Z159: send me a box and write it off at tax season ?
[10:57] <X314Z159> hehe, well, I live on noodles. 50p for 2pounds.
[10:58] <X314Z159> newsense07: what is this tax you speak of? :P ;)
[10:58] <newsense07> X314Z159: we are alike than except you have more computers, lol
[10:58] <newsense07> X314Z159: taxes
[10:59] <newsense07> X314Z159: if theres no taxes where you are why dont you just setup a box for me and ill move in
[10:59] <picca> does kubuntu desktop come with mysql on the cd
[11:00] <newsense07> !packages   mysql
[11:00] <MementoMori> hi all
[11:00] <MementoMori> anyone from poland?
[11:00] <newsense07> wassup
[11:00] <X314Z159> newsense07: hehe. we have a ton of taxes.. paying is something else
[11:00] <newsense07> MementoMori: im polish
[11:01] <stdin> picca: no
[11:01] <X314Z159> MementoMori: #kubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[11:01] <picca> stdin: just the common mysql libs?
[11:01] <MementoMori> newsense07: can you translate a very little text for me?
[11:01] <newsense07> sure
[11:01] <MementoMori> odpalenie jadra z flaga NOAPIC/NOACPI/ACPI=NO (niepotrzebne skreslic,
[11:01] <MementoMori> nigdy nie pamietam jak to idzie) moze cos pomoze
[11:02] <stdin> picca: no, only the server version has mysql on it
[11:03] <picca> okay thanks stdin
[11:04] <MementoMori> newsense07: ?
[11:08] <the-erm> Did you try sudo apt-get install <package> ?
[11:11] <newsense07> MementoMori: i dont read polish as well as my brother, i never been to poland(grew up in us) but he says its saying that acpi neverbasically
[11:11] <newsense07> MementoMori: let me see if my sister is up i trust her more
[11:11] <MementoMori> lol
[11:11] <MementoMori> :)
[11:11] <MementoMori> thank you
[11:12] <newsense07> MementoMori: hes not a computer guy so he didnt understand half of it
[11:12] <MementoMori> dont worry newsense07
[11:12] <newsense07> MementoMori: im guessing acpi is disabled
[11:12] <MementoMori> thank you anyway
[11:13] <newsense07> MementoMori: sorry, i speak it from what i learneed from my grandma, but not as good as i thought
[11:13] <MementoMori> I'd like to know if I've to set all the three parameters or try one of them until I find the right one
[11:14] <stdin> it probably means "Try booting with the flags NOAPIC/NOACPI/ACPI=NO" so  you need to add "noapic noacpi acpi=no" to the boot line
[11:15] <MementoMori> stdin: I will try this way
[11:17] <MementoMori> I'm trying to install kubuntu on a compaq 6720s
[11:17] <newsense07> MementoMori: you just made me realize that i cant read polish very well, how do you spell hot in polish (coronzso?)
[11:17] <MementoMori> gutsy have lan problems, feisty had video problems too
[11:18] <the-erm> is gusty out, or is it still beta?
[11:18] <MementoMori> is a rc
[11:19] <stdin> MementoMori: on my HP I have to use "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off" to boot
[11:19] <MementoMori> nolapic?
[11:20] <MementoMori> the formers didnt work
[11:20] <MementoMori> lets try the latters
[11:20] <stdin> lapic is the Intel version of apic
[11:20] <MementoMori> I just read it is "local apic"
[11:21] <MementoMori> http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt#1151
[11:21] <stdin> well it is, but it's intel's standard
[11:21] <cosmo_> I am trying to get my xorg configured on gutsy, but I cant get the ubuntu forums to load to find instructions, I have 2 monitors, the primary is a acer al2016w lcd and the secondary is a optiquest q71 crt, I am trying to get it set up in twinview can anyone help?
[11:22] <stdin> gutsy support only in #ubuntu+1
[11:22] <cosmo_> k thanks
[11:22] <newsense07> stdin: if ya know offhand, when will gutsy be released ?
[11:22] <stdin> 18th
[11:23] <newsense07> stdin: if anyone in here i knew you would, thanks
[11:23] <the-erm> Slow downloads that day.
[11:23] <stdin> :)
[11:24] <MementoMori> the-erm: if you use torrents you'll have full speed
[11:24] <X314Z159> torrents \o/
[11:24] <newsense07> stdin: im running gutsy, everything should be normal when its officially released besides slow updates right /
[11:24] <the-erm> MementoMori: did you install from scratch last time there was an upgrade?
[11:24] <stdin> newsense07: yep, just keep updating as normal and you'll get final
[11:25] <newsense07> stdin: i mean as far as my sources.list, shouldnt have to change it right
[11:25] <stdin> newsense07: yeah, same sources
[11:26] <the-erm> adept_manager did a pretty good job last time when I upgraded to feisty last time.
[11:26] <the-erm> That's one think I love about this distro.  You don't have to reinstall from scratch every time there's a release.
[11:27] <the-erm> s/think/thing
[11:29] <Angel_Pri> http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[11:29] -Angel_Pri:#kubuntu- http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[11:29] <MementoMori_> ;)
[11:29] <MementoMori_> the-erm: I dont like upgrades
[11:29] <MementoMori_> I always install from scratch
[11:29] <spawn57> would any of you recommend an hp all in one to use with linux?
[11:29] <MementoMori_> stdin: it works well now!
[11:30] <kaminix> htop says the kernels eating my CPU. Any reason why this would happend?
[11:30] <Jucato> stdin: wow you're fast
[11:30] <newsense07> stdin is the go to guy
[11:31] <Jucato> yes. I realize that
[11:31] <Jucato> finally I can resign ;)
[11:31] <the-erm> kaminix: I had a similar issue it was a usb issue.
[11:31] <newsense07> lmao, youre the go to guy too
[11:31] <the-erm> I was transferring data to an mp3 player.
[11:32] <the-erm> Nothing showed up on htop.  I removed the mp3 player, and all was ok.
[11:32] <kaminix> Oh... I'm having like 30 torrents linked to two USB-drives. :p
[11:32] <kaminix> Need the USB-drives though. Tricky...
[11:32] <Hamra> is there a way of repairing or rescuing a system, im currently running from the boot CD
[11:33] <MementoMori_> Hamra: it depends from your problem
[11:33] <the-erm> Hamra: Depends how bad you messed it up.
[11:33] <the-erm> Did you delete /boot ?
[11:34] <MementoMori_> Hamra: normally you should (quite often) save all your data
[11:34] <gemidjy> in kubuntu gutsy when multimedia key is pressed (say: volume up/down) a nice progressbar appears which overrides the default (and ugly) kde progressbar...is there patch for KDE somewhere?
[11:35] <newsense07> gemidjy: i thought feistys was nice
[11:35] <stdin> better ask in #ubuntu+1 or #kubuntu-devel about hat
[11:35] <stdin> s/hat/that
[11:35] <gemidjy> stdin: ok, 10x
[11:36] <the-erm> I'm not 100% sure but maybe you could use osdcat and write a script that does it ... It's been soo long.
[11:36] <X314Z159> well.. thats interesting.. when i "mute" the music keeps on playing in my speakers... but it still says "mute on" in the middle of the screen
[11:36] <the-erm> X314Z159: I think you need to change it in kmix
[11:36] <X314Z159> the-erm: probably.. but its still a bit silly :P
[11:37] <naught101> X314Z159: change the master in kmix to PCM or something
[11:38] <dromer> hi all, I'm having a weird thing here: I have 2 hd's one with all system-files, /home and another large partition. the other is just fillpd with movies. now I wanted to remove the 2nd hd and put it in another pc, but when I booted without it I got a root prompt saying I have to install apt o.O   wth is this and how can I boot without this hd
[11:41] <newsense07> vistakiller: i like the nick, just bought vista so i could play cs source and it blows
[11:41] <vistakiller> :P
[11:41] <dromer> newsense07: cs-source plays on XP too doesn't it?:P
[11:41] <X314Z159> dromer: it does
[11:41] <the-erm> It's a good think I don't play games.
[11:42] <dromer> so, anyone on my hd issue? :(
[11:42] <newsense07> dromer: yeah but i never payed for an os and figured id get the latest
[11:42] <Hamra> lucky you, the only thing that keeps me from removing XP, is that im a game addict
[11:43] <X314Z159> newsense07: its ms we are talking about here. do you really think its going to work with xp?
[11:44] <newsense07> X314Z159: trying not to go too far offtopic but i hope the key will work with the older os
[11:44] <Hamra> i live in lebanon, i got xp for 2$, and have an xp keygen :P, let MS die
[11:45] <X314Z159> newsense07: #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:45] <Jucato> !piracy
[11:45] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[11:45] <newsense07> Hamra: sounds illegalo
[11:45] <newsense07> X314Z159: i know the channel, why i said i was going to go too far offtopic
[11:46] <Hamra> ok, sorry
[11:46] <X314Z159> newsense07:  :P
[11:46] <stdin> fyi: discussion of and illegal activity is not welcome in -offtopic either
[11:46] <newsense07> s/was/wasnt
[11:47] <newsense07> X314Z159: my badd
[11:47] <X314Z159> stdin: I think -offtopic counts as a ubuntu channel, so the message kinda said that
[11:48] <stdin> some people don't get it, so I say it explicitly
[11:48] <X314Z159> stdin: true (:
[11:49] <newsense07> i apologize to the channel as i kinda started it sorry
[11:55] <newsense07> is wine the best choice for running ms apps ?
[11:57] <stdin> other than a VM, yeah
[11:57] <X314Z159> my printer programs would not work with wine, made me frustrated.. they had some installthing error
[11:57] <cosmo_> is anyone else getting a slow response from the ubuntu forums and help.ubuntu.com?
[11:57] <newsense07> stdin: whats the other popular wm environment ?
[11:58] <stdin> you mean vm?
[11:58] <newsense07> r/wm/win
[11:59] <newsense07> or emulator, if thats whats its called
[11:59] <stdin> wine is an application compatibility layer, not an emulator
[11:59] <stdin> other than wine, you can install VMWare, VirtualBox or Qemu and start windows in that
[11:59] <the-erm> I wonder if it works with viruses
[12:00] <newsense07> the-erm: i hope so i never had one
[12:00] <the-erm> I use wine for 1 thing, and that's flash.
[12:01] <newsense07> the-erm: when i did tech support for bfg sasser got aroung the wifi netowrk and i was the only one to get the hex key cause i didnt run an ms brand os :)
[12:01] <the-erm> I think it's easy enough to delete the reg files, and reinstall it.  Haven't tried it yet.
[12:01] <stdin> you use wine for flash?
[12:02] <newsense07> the-erm: they have flash for linux
[12:02] <the-erm> They do?
[12:02] <stdin> !flash
[12:02] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:02] <newsense07> the-erm: yes
[12:02] <nobbi> moin moin ihr lieben
[12:02] <the-erm> no not the flash player.  The flash composer.
[12:02] <stdin> !de
[12:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:03] <newsense07> the-erm: might have to use wine for that, not aware of a composer for the best os in the universe(besides unix)
[12:04] <the-erm> My point is ... that's all I use it for.
[12:04] <X314Z159> heh, it always gets me when it says removing wine. :P I'm trying to install VM instead and installing my printersoftware with that
[12:05] <wolfger> morning, all.
[12:05] <wolfger> Anybody else having problems with launchpad this morning?
[12:05] <wolfger> I've been trying to get to various pages on it for about an hour
[12:06] <nobbi> somebody han help me to install a very small linux on a 1,2 GB harddrive?
[12:06] <stdin> wolfger: #launchpad is the place to report that :)
[12:07] <nacholibre> hi folks
[12:08] <wolfger> stdin: thx
[12:12] <newsense07> stdin: thanks again, got wine installed and it works pretty good
[12:12] <jussi01> wolfger: its been slow all morning
[12:15] <newsense07> kde4 not going to be in gutsy on the 18'th is it ?
[12:15] <jussi01> newsense07: no
[12:15] <emilsedgh> newsense07: not even gutsy+1
[12:15] <newsense07> jussi01: sorry probobly a dumb?
[12:16] <jussi01> newsense07: since its only beta 2....
[12:16] <newsense07> jussi01: compiz-fusion ?
[12:16] <jussi01> newsense07: see the link in /topic
[12:16] <jussi01> newsense07: yes
[12:16] <newsense07> jussi01: thanks
[12:16] <jussi01> :)
[12:38] <flavia> hi, any reason why the ubuntu servers are down? can anybody give me a mirror for kubuntu gutsy rc (I suppose it's out)
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> for any and *all* things gutsy, go to #ubuntu+1
[12:43] <Hamra> how do i start rescue mode when booting?
[12:47] <ksivaji> Hamra press escape at start up you will see rescue mode
[12:48] <Ash-Fox> Does anybody know how to get XFS to write changes immediately on a specific directory or a mount option that will make it do so? I've looked in the mount manual and I don't see it. Nor can I find it on google.
[01:11] <TimS> Jucato: If I have 2 Hard drives, one blank and one with Linux on, can I install windows on the other and have them Dual Boot?
[01:12] <TimS> 1 hard drive is SATA the other is IDE if that makes any difference
[01:16] <dromer> hmm, I want to add another IDE disk as storage to my current system, but when I boot with the extra hd in it the bootsequence stops right before the login-prompt and I get into tty1 where I get al kinds of errors if I try to type anything
[01:20] <giorgo1> hi guys. One question. Has somthing be changed for an nfs moutning? I canot establish a nfs conection anymore with kubuntu 7.10?
[01:26] <abs0lutek0ld> has anyone here done a sucessfull ftir display on kubuntu
[01:37] <rabx> is it my setup perhaps ? - in Firefox (ubuntu) whilst viewing a u-tube clip, I cannot full screen the clip as I can in ff on my win box
[01:44] <ajsc> hola a todo el mundo, alguien puede leerme??????
[01:53] <pointwood> shouldn't the new X.org that's included in 7.10 feature hotplugging? == if I connect to my HDTV, it should be detected?
[01:56] <abs0lutek0ld> should being the key word.  computers should do many things.  this however is not the case when seen in the light of the real world
[01:58] <martin_> I suppose this "hotplugging"-feature only applies to input devices (mice and keyboards)
[01:58] <pointwood> oh
[01:59] <pointwood> alright
[01:59] <tsdgeos> there is a new xrandr that allows monitor hotplugging
[02:00] <tsdgeos> but afair that's on X.org 7.3 that is not shipped in ubuntu
[02:01] <tony_> Does anyone know how to fix the "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" error?
[02:01] <pointwood> I thought gutsy would ship with x.org 7.3
[02:02] <tsdgeos> nope
[02:02] <tsdgeos> 7.2
[02:05] <pointwood> ok
[02:05] <pointwood> tsdgeos: wasn't it the plan at some point to use 7.3?
[02:06] <tsdgeos> no idea, but i'm using gutsy and i can tell you i have 7.2 here :D
[02:06] <pointwood> hehe
[02:06] <TimS> !ut2004
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ut2004 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <TimS> :o
[02:06] <pointwood> I'm going to try to upgrade to gutsy when my backup of my home dir finishes
[02:07] <pointwood> and when that fails I'm going to do a clean install :p
[02:19] <sayers> How would I convert a .avi to play on older dvd players
[02:42] <dbglt> is there any compiz type stuff in the kde upgrade to gusty?
[02:43] <tsdgeos> i think not
[02:43] <tsdgeos> not sure
[02:43] <polopolo> Is compiz fusion standard vaalible in kubuntu?
[02:50] <OiPenguin> I'm a new k/ubuntu user exploring the various desktops. I've installed kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu 7.10 beta. After removing Kubuntu (with sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop if i remember correctly) the update manager now suggest 80 updates which are all KDE-applications. How do I exclude KDE-applications from the update manager?
[02:53] <emilsedgh> OiPenguin: you want to remove all kde applications?
[02:53] <OiPenguin> Yes. I believe I just did that with the above command?
[02:55] <emilsedgh> OiPenguin: no, you should remove kdelibs4c2a package to remove all kde applications i think
[02:56] <OiPenguin> Thanks. I'm searching in synaptic now.
[02:56] <xenol> is there any way i can make my windows transparent as my taskbar?
[02:57] <emilsedgh> xenol: you should enable compositing, best way currently is to install compiz
[02:58] <xenol> emilsedgh: no other option?
[02:59] <emilsedgh> xenol: there is another option, enable compositing, then go to kwin (default window manager for kde/kubuntu) options and turn on special effects
[02:59] <xenol> emilsedgh:  that option is too sluggish for my ati
[02:59] <emilsedgh> xenol: Window ransparency 'Needs' compositing
[03:00] <xenol> emilsedgh: i will stack to beryl then i guess
[03:00] <emilsedgh> xenol: and the taskbar's transparency is not real transparency, thats just like a dirtyu hack
[03:10] <TimS> emilsedgh: If I have a windows partition or windows on a seperate hard disk, is it possible to run this through Virtual Box?
[03:10] <TimS> Or another emulation program
[03:17] <hasse> how to get rid of this error http://pastebin.com/m1013d81f
[03:19] <TimS> !adeptfix
[03:19] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:19] <TimS> hasse: Try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:20] <hasse> still the same if i afterwards try to install another program via apt-get
[03:21] <TimS> Hmm
[03:22] <TimS> Sounds like your missing a system file
[03:22] <hasse> ohhh sh*t
[03:23] <TimS> hasse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501195&page=41
[03:23] <TimS> What?
[03:23] <hasse> ohh sh*t to that im missing a system file
[03:23] <TimS> sudo aptitude install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic
[03:24] <hasse> i just brought a lenovo t61p, and im trying to get the sound to work, thats where it suddenly happend
[03:24] <TimS> Try: sudo aptitude install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic
[03:24] <hasse> i cant install anything
[03:24] <hasse> because of the error
[03:24] <TimS>  sudo aptitude purge linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic
[03:25] <TimS> That was reccomended
[03:25] <hasse> dosent have aptitude installed
[03:25] <TimS> o.o
[03:25] <TimS> What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[03:25] <hasse> kubuntu 7.10
[03:26] <TimS> It would appear to be a known bug
[03:26] <TimS> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/138552
[03:26] <TimS> On the bottom post there is a fix for it
[03:26] <TimS> If your feeling brave :P
[03:27] <TimS> Nah, that should work
[03:29] <hasse> that worked, thanks, now i just want to get my soundcard to work..*grr*
[03:29] <hasse>  :)
[03:30] <hasse> anyone have a solution to how to get the soundcard in a t61p lenovo to play
[03:30] <hasse> have tried almost every guide
[03:31] <rogers> ..
[03:32] <sbucatino> hi! i would like lauch a program at the start ( terminal xsetwacom set etc etc ) how i can do ?
[03:32] <emilsedgh_> !autostart | sbucatino
[03:32] <ubotu> sbucatino: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:33] <rogers> Can anyone help a linux newb with a codec issue? It's supposedly simple but guides I found are unclear to me.
[03:33] <sbucatino> ubotu: ok i will try thanks a lot
[03:33] <TimS> emilsedgh_:  If I have a windows partition or windows on a seperate hard disk, is it possible to run this through Virtual Box?
[03:34] <TimS> xD @  ubotu: ok i will try thanks a lot
[03:34] <sebi_> how can i play shockwave files in the internet?
[03:34] <emilsedgh_> TimS: dunno :(
[03:34] <sebi_> can anybody send me n link?
[03:34] <hasse> i can see the volume bar , but if i try to play music from xmms, i get this error : "please check that no other program is blocking the soundcard"
[03:34] <TimS> Oki
[03:34] <emilsedgh_> TimS: ubotu is a Bot
[03:34] <TimS> I know :P
[03:34] <emilsedgh_> :D
[03:34] <pag> !shockwave | sebi_
[03:34] <ubotu> sebi_: Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[03:35] <sebi_> cool thanx gonne check ist out
[03:35] <TimS> I diddnt know shockwave was still in use
[03:35] <rogers> How can I install Amarok MP3 support when Amarok always freezes when I try?
[03:35] <emilsedgh_> rogers: install libxine-extracodecs from adept
[03:35] <TimS> !mp3 | rogers
[03:35] <ubotu> rogers: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:36] <rogers> thanks
[03:36] <rogers> now I just have to work on some new player firmware so I can play OGG/FLAC
[03:45] <hasse> when trying to play music , what does "device is busy" means ?
[03:48] <TimS> That something else is usinging the music device
[03:48] <mrksbrd> hasse, something is running in the background that u can't see
[03:48] <TimS> It sometimes happens to me when I play a game and am listening to music
[03:49] <TimS> And it mentions Kio
[03:49] <mrksbrd> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-16709.html
[03:49] <hasse> how to solve the problem ?
[03:50] <TimS> Ctrl - Esc and look for a program that might be running using music, for example totem or amarok and kill it.
[03:50] <TimS> Be carefull what you kill
[03:50] <TimS> You dont want to break anything
[03:51] <hasse> i have to say that i have a lenovo t61p, and kubuntu 7.10, and theres a lot of issues with that setup
[03:51] <hasse> nothing looks like it could make any problems
[03:52] <TimS> !yakuake
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <TimS> !info yakuake
[03:52] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[03:52] <shadowhywind> so heres a question for you guys this morning. Has there been any major issues updating from feisty to the gusty RC?
[03:52] <mrksbrd> hasse, u shouldn't have any problems w/running on that pc
[03:52] <TimS> shadowhywind: I have heard of a few
[03:53] <shadowhywind> TimS oh? *take out the swap issues that seam to happen on ever update* like what?
[03:53] <mrksbrd> unless the install went haywire, i've found that sometimes you may have to run the install process several x's
[03:53] <hasse> have to say that it's a 7.04 upgrade to 7.10
[03:53] <mrksbrd> to get the perfect one
[03:53] <TimS> I have seen a few been told to ask in -dev
[03:54] <mrksbrd> shadow i'm running gutsy & haven't seen any issues yet
[03:54] <shadowhywind> oh k *maybe i will just wait the week tiill it gets released, hehe
[03:55] <redo86> hello
[03:56] <hasse> i cant get 7.10 to install from scratch, no gui shows up, neither in safe graphics
[03:56] <hasse> so installs 7.04 and upgrade to 7.10 afterwards, could that be the problem
[03:57] <TimS> What graphics drivers are you using hasse
[03:58] <hasse> TimS, when installing from the live cd ?
[03:58] <TimS> Yeah
[03:58] <TimS> Are you on nv or vesa?
[03:58] <hasse> thinks it vesa.
[03:59] <hasse> cant change that on install ?
[03:59] <TimS> If you boot into a terminal
[04:00] <hasse> should it be vesa if i boot the livecd into a terminal
[04:00] <TimS> You can dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:00] <TimS> Oh you cant get any graphics on the live cd
[04:00] <TimS> thats weird
[04:00] <fred__> hello.
[04:01] <ekrengel> yeh im afraid to upgrade to hoary, my ati card will probably go haywire
[04:01] <hasse> when booting on safe graphics, it shows the desktop for 5 secs, and return to bootup screen
[04:01] <fred__> this is my first install of kubuntu. I'd like to know : how to access to root commands ?
[04:01] <hasse> and the xorg.log file, says somethink like, DMI not supported for card
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> !sudo | fred__
[04:01] <ubotu> fred__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:01] <hasse> fred__, sudo file
[04:01] <TimS> fred__: Sudo command
[04:01] <ekrengel> will my xorg.conf change when i upgrade to hoary???
[04:02] <TimS> To hoary??? What are you running at the moment?
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> upgrade to HOARY?
[04:02] <TimS> Brezy?
[04:02] <TimS> Wait that doesnt even work
[04:02] <ekrengel> oops
[04:02] <fred__> ok. but the system didn't asked me to configure a root pass. is it "root" ?
[04:02] <ekrengel> i mean Gutsy
[04:02] <TimS> Feisty surely
[04:02] <ekrengel> my bad
[04:02] <ekrengel> im on fiesty
[04:02] <TimS> Ah, no it shouldnt
[04:03] <TimS> fred__: Its the same as your password
[04:03] <ekrengel> ok
[04:03] <ekrengel> i have it backed up
[04:03] <hasse> i could try to boot the livecd, and check the graphic driver and try vesa if nv, and vice versa
[04:03] <mrksbrd> fred, when u installed the system, it asked for a password, use that
[04:03] <TimS> Not that I am aweare of anyway
[04:03] <ekrengel> but...it took forever to get it working right with my card
[04:03] <fred__> TimS: & mrksbrd : ok thanks
[04:03] <TimS> If its backed up you should be fine
[04:03] <TimS> hasse:
[04:03] <TimS> Go for it
[04:04] <hasse> catch you later ...
[04:04] <hasse> the  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:04] <TimS> :D
[04:04] <hasse> what does that do ?
[04:04] <TimS> Oh it reconfigures your xorg file
[04:04] <TimS> So you can choose the drivers you use
[04:04] <mrksbrd> the example to get software is sudo apt-get install <file>
[04:04] <hasse> the -phigh ?
[04:05] <TimS> Erm, not sure, but you need it :P
[04:05] <ekrengel> how about vmware?  any issues with that when upgrading?
[04:05] <hasse> hhe okay, ill try, catch you later on .. i hope :)
[04:05] <TimS> Its the way it opens it like ls -r
[04:05] <TimS> Byee  :D
[04:06] <TimS> ekrengel: Possibly, I am not really sure, best place to ask is #kubuntu+1
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> #ubuntu+1
[04:07] <ekrengel> i can't join that
[04:07] <ekrengel> dont have access
[04:08] <TimS> Oh, doesnt kubuntu have its own one? Silly
[04:08] <e42> hi guys
[04:08] <e42> i just installed compiz fusion
[04:09] <TimS> Congradulations
[04:09] <TimS> Welcome to pain
[04:09] <e42> then i type compiz --replace ccp
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> e42: good job....
[04:09] <e42> and thats what i get
[04:09] <TimS> You dont need ccp
[04:09] <e42> Fatal: Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support
[04:09] <e42> Checks indicate that it's impossible to start compiz on your system.
[04:09] <TimS> I never did anyway
[04:09] <e42> ;/
[04:09] <TimS> Have you got nvidia-glx-new drivers?
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> do you put in ccp? I don't do that.
[04:09] <TimS> Or your graphics card drivers
[04:09] <e42> TimS, i got ati mobility 9700
[04:10] <e42> TimS, jest they are instaled
[04:10] <TimS> Hmm
[04:10] <ardchoille> Kommander is pretty nice. I've been writing a few kommander scripts from the basg scripts I have written. It's nice to have a small gui for some things.
[04:10] <TimS> !kommander
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kommander - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <TimS> Never heard of it XD
[04:10] <e42> TimS, thats what i get after fglrxinfo in my console
[04:10] <e42> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[04:10] <e42> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[04:10] <e42> OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON 9600
[04:10] <e42> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[04:10] <e42> the joke is
[04:11] <e42> i got 9700
[04:11] <e42> not 9600
[04:11] <e42> -.-
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> e42: that doesn't matter.
[04:11] <ardchoille> TimS: It's in the repos:  apt-cache search kommander
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> e42: you need XGL
[04:11] <ardchoille> !info kommander
[04:11] <ubotu> kommander: visual dialog builder and executor tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3800 kB
[04:11] <fred__> sudo chown fred /zzzz/xxx/yyyy/ >>> (how to make it recursive) ?
[04:11] <e42> nosrednaekim, how to do it ;/ ?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> !xgl
[04:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:11] <ardchoille> fred__: chown -R
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> fred__: -R
[04:11] <fred__> ok ardchoille
[04:12] <ardchoille> fred__: Same option for chmod
[04:12] <e42> ok
[04:12] <fred__> thanks
[04:12] <e42> thx
[04:12] <mrksbrd> TimS, is there an easy way to create an icon & assign it to my external usbhdd?  When I plug it in it will open the drive, but doesn't assign an icon along with it
[04:12] <TimS> I never managed to figure that out. It wont let me change any of mine
[04:13] <fred__> no, harder : the directory /yyy is my old desktop (from mandriva) how to make it my new desktop (on kubuntu) ?
[04:13] <TimS> My phone, for example, only displays the ipod icon and wont let me change it
[04:13] <fred__> now, harder : the directory /yyy is my old desktop (from mandriva) how to make it my new desktop (on kubuntu) ?
[04:13] <Bauldrick> gutsy channel?
[04:13] <fred__> (I forgot the "w")
[04:13] <ardchoille> Bauldrick: #ubuntu+1
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> #ubuntu+1 Bauldrick
[04:13] <mrksbrd> hmmmmm
[04:13] <Bauldrick> ta
[04:15] <fred__> none has an idea ?
[04:16] <mrksbrd> TimS, u running kubuntu?
[04:16] <TimS> Yeah
[04:16] <TimS> 7.04
[04:17] <mrksbrd> k goto the icon u wanna change......right click......properties.......
[04:17] <mrksbrd> then u should see the icon that is assigned....click on that & you should be ale to go thru the menu & pick an icon u want
[04:18] <fred__> think I've found my answer ... let's see that with a reboot :)
[04:18] <TimS> Doesnt work for me mrksbrd
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> fred__: you mean that was your old home dir?
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> TimS: I think you have to change the icon association for the mimetype....
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> IDK how to do that though
[04:21] <mrksbrd> anyone out there tried Linspire?
[04:22] <mrksbrd> lol why?
[04:23] <TimS> Novell are being sued?
[04:23] <TheDude> why isnt pidgin in the repo?
[04:23] <TimS> getdeb has it
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> mrksbrd: cause they struck a deal with M$
[04:24] <Jucato> TheDude: it's in the gutsy repo
[04:24] <TimS> Its in http://www.ansemreport.com/pidgin/repo feisty feisty-backports
[04:24] <TheDude> got ya
[04:24] <TheDude> but why?
[04:24] <TimS> deb http://www.ansemreport.com/pidgin/repo feisty feisty-backports
[04:24] <TheDude> are they movin everything over to gusty?
[04:24] <TimS> deb-src http://www.ansemreport.com/pidgin/repo feisty feisty-backports
[04:25] <mrksbrd> oh really??????????.....for the proprietary stuff???
[04:25] <TimS> Thats a pidgin reppo
[04:25] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:25] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:25] <Jucato> TheDude: gutsy is the current development version to be released in about 5 days
[04:26] <TheDude> Jucato: I am aware
[04:26] <Jucato> it has the (almost) lastest packages. hence pidgin is there
[04:26] <TheDude> Jucato: ok, thanks for the info bro
[04:26] <TheDude> Jucato: what I needed to know
[04:27] <Jucato> TheDude: you can use the repository TimS gave, but please do take note that it's a 3rd party repo
[04:27] <Jucato> we can't/don't fully support it if it breaks or breaks something...
[04:29] <Hamra> this morning when i started the computer, kde didnt start, so i typed  kdm, it said that it isnt installed and i should apt-get it, kde is running, but the taskbar at the bottom is not working, and the whole screen looks weird  and different, will kubuntu-default-settings do the trick?
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: make sure you install gaim first though... so that you have all the dependencies
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> Hamra: did you install kde4?
[04:30] <TheDude> nosrednaekim: does apt not check all depends?
[04:30] <Jucato> it does
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: ah.. right... adding a repository... never mind
[04:31] <TheDude> nice thinkg about it not being an RPM ;)
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:31] <kilrae> is it inadvisable to connect directly to the internet with a default kubuntu desktop install?
[04:32] <Jucato> kilrae: hm?
[04:32] <kilrae> as far as i can tell, there are no servers running and no open ports
[04:32] <ardchoille> kilrae: No, in fact kubuntu is one of the mosre secure distros due to not having any ports open or world-facing services installed by default.
[04:33] <Jucato> TheDude: yum, libzypp, drakconf, and apt-rpm do dependency resolution, just as apt does. rpm (the program) doesn't, but so does dpkg
[04:33] <kilrae> alright, it's been years since i've not had a hardware firewall and apparently i've grown paranoid
[04:33] <Jucato> kilrae: it's quite safe. if you are still worried, you can use a firewall
[04:33] <Jucato> !firewall
[04:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:34] <TheDude> where is the k managment utils on kbuntu
[04:34] <ardchoille> TheDude: kcontrol
[04:34] <Jucato> System Settings
[04:35] <ardchoille> ?
[04:35] <Jucato> nvm
[04:35] <kilrae> kcontrol isn't as pretty :P
[04:35] <ardchoille> I don't even consider System Settings an app, it's a poor rip off of kcontrol.
[04:36] <Jucato> tough luck, it's the default in KDE 4.0 :)
[04:36] <ardchoille> I mean kcontrol did the job. Why did someone go an reinvent the wheel?
[04:37] <Jucato> but he did ask "for kubuntu"
[04:37] <ardchoille> ok
[04:37] <TheDude> how the hell do I add http://ubuntu.org.ua/ getdeb/  to the repo? what do I need after it?
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: because system settings has more otptions
[04:37] <Jucato> why does anyone reinvent the wheel? is there a rule that says no one can't try to make something different?
[04:38] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: ss has more options that kcontrol? Is there something in ss that isn't in kcontrol?
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> I always like to say that Harvey Firestone reinvented the wheel..
[04:38] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: lol
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: restrcicted-manager? disk and fielsystems?
[04:38] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: um.. those aren't part of system settings
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: they are in it ;)
[04:38] <Jucato> and can be used inside kcontrol as well
[04:39] <Jucato> they are kcm's (kcontrol modules)
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> ah.
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> so its just the interface.
[04:39] <Jucato> they can be used by any "shell" that embeds kcm's
[04:39] <Jucato> and kcontrol and system settings are just shells
[04:39] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: disks and filesystems is in kcontrol
[04:40] <ardchoille> Jucato: Ah, that explains the use of kcmshell privacy
[04:40] <Jucato> I can understand people not liking system settings because it's broken or ugly or whatever... can't understand the reasoning of "reinvented the wheel"
[04:40] <Jucato> if nobody "reinvented the wheel", there'd be no room for innovation or change
[04:40] <Jucato> !offtopic | Jucato
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> lol
[04:40] <ardchoille> Well, kcontrol has everything.. seems like ss has the same stuff
[04:41] <ardchoille> oh well
[04:41] <Jucato> system settings *can* have everything
[04:41] <Jucato> it was just decided early on not to overload system settings w/ duplicate settings
[04:41] <Jucato> and they *do* have the same stuff
[04:42] <ardchoille> Wait, dolphin and system settings are default in kde4? I thought only gnome got worse with each release.
[04:42] <ardchoille> I'll shutup now
[04:42] <Jucato> yes please
[04:42] <ardchoille> :)
[04:43] <alkad_mzu> hello all, just installed ubuntu for the first time.
[04:43] <emilsedgh> ardchoille: i dont like dolphin as defalt fm too, but no, i dont think it makes kde worse
[04:43] <TheDude> lmao now adept is all fucked
[04:43] <TheDude> I cant getg anything
[04:44] <pag> !language | TheDude
[04:44] <ubotu> TheDude: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:44] <Jucato> (it doesn't matter. any change/new app = "reinventing the wheel" or "imitating Vista" today)
[04:44] <Jucato> bah I better quit it
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[04:45] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:46] <TheDude> the apt database cannot be opened
[04:46] <waylandbill> Jucato: imitating is okay. open source doesn't mean it has to be necessarily unique
[04:47] <nosrednaekim> TheDude:  see above ^^
[04:47] <TheDude> !adeptfix
[04:47] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:47] <TheDude> stilll broke
[04:47] <TheDude> what a joke
[04:48] <waylandbill> TheDude: in a terminal, what does apt-get installing the package you want output?
[04:49] <Hamra> how do i restart kde? is it possible to close kde and not the whole system?
[04:50] <ardchoille> Hamra: yes, log out
[04:50] <TheDude> E: Type 'http://ubuntu.org.ua/getdeb/deb' is not known on line 43 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:51] <Tm_T> TheDude: sourceline has to start with deb in this case I assume
[04:51] <waylandbill> TheDude: comment that line out of that file (or fix it) and then apt-get update and then all should be fine.
[04:52] <ardchoille> TheDude: I think you're missing a space there: deb http://ubuntu.org.ua/ getdeb/
[04:53] <lontra> anyone know where the mathematical sign 'does not equal' is in koffice?
[04:53] <lontra> er ... kword
[04:55] <TheDude> ok
[04:55] <TheDude> it added a brunch of stuff to my sources.list
[04:55] <BigDaddy> hey all, is there a way to load Kontact (or Kmail in paticular) into a "safemode"? It crashed on me and now I cannot restart it because it keeps crashing
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: can't restart KDE?
[04:57] <BigDaddy> no, I cannot restart Kontact
[04:58] <BigDaddy> As soon as I try to load it, it just crashes
[04:58] <TheDude> whats a BREAK: install?
[04:58] <BigDaddy> here is the report: http://pastebin.com/d3cb41356
[04:59] <TheDude> BREAK (install)
[04:59] <eduborgess> alguem fala portuques poraki?
[05:01] <nosrednaekim> TheDude: it means it will remove a critical package
[05:02] <BigDaddy> What I was doing at the time of the crash was adding a button to the Main toolbar. Now I cannot restart the application
[05:02] <bosko_> Hola gente, esto funciona?
[05:02] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: ah...try erasing the .kde/cache/kontactrc
[05:02] <BigDaddy> OK.
[05:02] <nosrednaekim> umm .kde/config/kontactrc
[05:02] <BigDaddy> Wait, will that erase my emails?
[05:04] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: no... that file is in .kde/share/kontact
[05:04] <s4xxon> i tried to make a fsck -A , but it was telling me that my '/' partition is mounted and it could damage it while checking for errors, how can i do a check disk on my linux partition ? or at the next reboot
[05:05] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: should that be cache-"computername"?
[05:05] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: no.. sorry, I meant "config"
[05:05] <nosrednaekim> :)
[05:06] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: umm lol...".kde/share/config
[05:06] <BigDaddy> hmmm... I don't have a config
[05:06] <BigDaddy> ohh...I'll lokk there
[05:09] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: Sweet, that did it. Now why did that fix it? Do you know?
[05:09] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: thats the file that holds the configuration for the user interface
[05:09] <fred__> hello. where may I find the config files of kopete ?
[05:10] <ardchoille> fred__: ~/.kde/config/kopet*  ?
[05:10] <pag> fred__, ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc
[05:10] <ardchoille> fred__: ~/.kde/apps/kopet*  ?
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> fred__: .kde/share/config or .kde/share/apps/kopete
[05:11] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: What is really odd about this is that the changes I made are still there. That make no sense. I would have guessed that it would have defaulted
[05:11] <fred__> thank
[05:12] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: weird :)
[05:12] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: Well anyways, thanks for that help.
[05:12] <nosrednaekim> yeah... NP
[05:13] <BigDaddy> Does anyone here have their /home folder as a seperate partition?
[05:13] <fred__> BigDaddy: I do
[05:13] <BigDaddy> fred__: How do you know what size to make it?
[05:14] <fred__> BigDaddy: I did the biggest for me and a little small for the others ;)
[05:15] <BigDaddy> fred__: I am still new to Linux (about a month and a half) so I am still learning the file structure. Is the /home folders where all the apps config's are stored as well?
[05:15] <BigDaddy> So I will have the configs, but not the apps whenever I do an upgrade or reinstal
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: your configs... yes... they are all in "."folders.
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: if you keep your home DIR yes,
[05:16] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: yeah.. I have my home on a different partition too... much much safer
[05:16] <dhq_> has anyone got vmware to work with gutsy
[05:16] <BigDaddy> So generally speaking, should the home folder be the biggest partition?
[05:17] <claudio> ciao
[05:17] <BigDaddy> I currently have the /home set up as /home/wife ... /home/me /home/shared
[05:17] <BigDaddy> In that shared home there is all our music and pictures and so on. Should I have that stuff somewhere else?
[05:19] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: no... thats the right place for it
[05:20] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy:  and yes, it should be the largest partition for the average user's dektop (servers are different)
[05:20] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: the install partition need not be over 10 gigs
[05:20] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: that's exactly what I wanted to know
[05:21] <nosrednaekim> dhq_: #ubuntu+1
[05:21] <BigDaddy> hmmm, what about games? They can get pretty big too. What if I wanted to play CnC? I think it's install is like 4GB. Where would it's install go? System or Home?
[05:22] <nosrednaekim> hmm true... it  would go into /usr probably.
[05:22] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: although there is a way to install it on your home DIR.
[05:22] <fred__> mfff ... tryed to recover my kopete contact list and users (from mandriva) ... seems I failed. may someone help ? thanks
[05:22] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: if its a wine game, it will be in your home DIR
[05:23] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: you are a fountain of useful information
[05:23] <nosrednaekim> lol...
[05:23] <nosrednaekim> fred__: did you just copy over your whole home directory?
[05:23] <fred__> nosrednaekim: yes I did
[05:24] <BigDaddy> brbr... kid needs help
[05:24] <nosrednaekim> fred__: and it didn't automatically import them?
[05:24] <fred__> nosrednaekim: seems not. kopete asks username and the whole informations
[05:24] <picca> does kubuntu desktop come with the full openldap installed but just no daemon to start the server?
[05:24] <nosrednaekim> fred__: huh.... are all your other configs working? like bookmarks?
[05:25] <fred__> nosrednaekim: didn't tryed yet ...
[05:25] <fred__> may I change userinfo of the dirs ?
[05:25] <nosrednaekim> try it
[05:25] <nosrednaekim> change the what?
[05:27] <fred__> nosrednaekim: I had a mandriva. I installed kubuntu (first time). My old /home is into /media/hda6 ... I copy from /media/hda6/.kde/share/apps/kopete to /home/.kde/ ...
[05:27] <fred__> i thought it should work
[05:27] <nosrednaekim> fred__: was hda6 a separate /home?
[05:28] <fred__> nosrednaekim: yes (under mdv)
[05:28] <fred__> nosrednaekim: I wasn't sure how to do so into kubuntu
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> fred__: you can use that /home for this install too...
[05:28] <fred__> nosrednaekim: how ? when I tryed, kubuntu told me "going to format /hda6"
[05:29] <fred__> so I stop
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> fred__: in the partitioner, you just select that partition, press edit, and set the mount point to /home and set it no to format.
[05:29] <fred__> nosrednaekim: oook ... Gona re install the whole now ! thanks
[05:31] <fred__> guys, hope to see you soon (after re install kubuntu in a good way ;) ) ... Pray for France to win at rugby tonight ;)
[05:31] <picca> does kubuntu desktop come with the full openldap installed but just no daemon to start the server?
[05:34] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: wait... did I read that right. Your /home can be transfered from distro to distro?
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: indeed, and you can have your /home shared BETWEEN distros
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> which are installed simultaneously
[05:35] <BigDaddy> wait wait wait.... are you serious???
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> (but of course not running simultaneously
[05:35] <BigDaddy> OMG, that is fricken awesome!
[05:36] <flaccid> well they could run simultaneously yes
[05:36] <BigDaddy> No wonder linux nerds can try out so many distros
[05:36] <BigDaddy> flaccid: you talking about virtualization?
[05:36] <flaccid> yeah
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: oh yeah.. I have 3 distros installed here, and they all look the and act the same cause of my settings :)
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> are shared.
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: yeah... thats why *WE* can ;)
[05:36] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: as a long time windows user, I can tell you that is a feature that needs to be told to the masses
[05:37] <BigDaddy> Nerd=BigDaddy
[05:37] <Chousuke> most of them won't understand it
[05:37] <Chousuke> :/
[05:37] <BigDaddy> I am a proud nerd, I am just not to the Linux Nerd stage.  Yet
[05:37] <flaccid> the masses don't have a use for it
[05:37] <BigDaddy> flacc
[05:37] <BigDaddy> flaccid: YOU DON'T THINK SO?
[05:38] <BigDaddy> crap, sorry
[05:38] <Chousuke> flaccid: yes they do
[05:38] <Chousuke> flaccid: they just don't know it
[05:38] <BigDaddy> hit caps on accident, did not mean to yell
[05:38] <flaccid> the masses generally don't even use linux
[05:38] <Chousuke> yes, but they would still like a separated Documents and Settigns in windows too
[05:38] <nosrednaekim> yeah... Linux has some pretty sweet features that we just take for granted :)
[05:39] <Chousuke> being able to separate /home is a feature in all Unixes and unix-likes. :)
[05:39] <BigDaddy> flaccid: You know how often Window users reinstall? Having that ability would be awesom
[05:39] <flaccid> um documents and settings is the equiv of /home ...
[05:39] <Chousuke> flaccid: yes
[05:39] <Chousuke> It's not really possible in Windows because windows does some pretty idiotic things
[05:39] <Chousuke> I *have* done it on windows
[05:39] <Chousuke> it was painful
[05:39] <M_A_K> Is there something like Pine for email for feisty?
[05:40] <Tm_T> !pine
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <Chousuke> On unix systems I just mount an empty partition to /home and create my user. done :P
[05:40] <flaccid> well its been working for years with roaming profiles on dif versions of windows in corporate situations so um yeah...
[05:40] <Tm_T> wow
[05:40] <BigDaddy> Windows does do some stupid things, hence tell me what I want. BS
[05:40] <Chousuke> flaccid: roaming profiles are different.
[05:40] <M_A_K> Tm_T : i already tried apt-get install pine... Is there another solution?  I want a simple interface.  I have postfix installed, but don't like using "mail"
[05:41] <BigDaddy> I am still just floored that you can share your /home dir between distro's. I can be a total distro slut if I do that.
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> M_A_K: mutt?
[05:41] <Chousuke> flaccid: the thing is, on Linux it's so simple it's practically a side-effect of how certain stuff works :)
[05:41] <flaccid> well yes they are. but a profile stored on an AD server is the same thing as a local profile in terms of the application data used by programs etc.
[05:41] <M_A_K> never heard of it, I will have a looksee
[05:41] <BigDaddy> Can I turn my current /home into a new partition?
[05:41] <Chousuke> flaccid: there was no need to explicitly design /home to be like that.
[05:41] <Chousuke> BigDaddy: sure
[05:42] <flaccid> Chousuke, do you actually have a point
[05:42] <spiroo> Will Deamon-tools or something like it be developed for Linux/Ubuntu?
[05:42] <BigDaddy> OMG... the implications are staggering
[05:42] <flaccid> i understand how it all works Chousuke
[05:42] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: lol
[05:42] <Chousuke> BigDaddy: make a new partition, mount it to /something, copy home to it, (delete old contents of /home afterwards), mount new partition on /home
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> Chousuke: he already has a separate /home
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> (I think)
[05:43] <Chousuke> oh, he does? heh
[05:43] <spiroo> anyone?
[05:44] <BigDaddy> no, My /home is not on a seperate partition yet.
[05:44] <Chousuke> spiroo: no daemon tools for Linux
[05:44] <Chousuke> spiroo: you can mount .iso-images though
[05:44] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: oh.. ok.
[05:44] <M_A_K> Cool, mutt will do just fine.
[05:44] <BigDaddy> Where is a good place for me to research this?
[05:44] <M_A_K> Thanks
[05:45] <Chousuke> BigDaddy: you only need to understand how mount points work
[05:45] <flaccid> google.com
[05:45] <Chousuke> basically, if you have a partition with the content of /home on it, you can mount said partition on /home, and then your /home will be "separate"
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> M_A_K: I hear its what Linus Torvalds himslef uses
[05:46] <spiroo> Chousuke: I know, I wonder if someone will develop some similar application for it.
[05:46] <M_A_K> Nice...
[05:46] <Chousuke> spiroo: probably not.
[05:46] <Chousuke> spiroo: mounting ISOs is enough for most things.
[05:46] <BigDaddy> what about defining where my /home is?
[05:46] <spiroo> Not for me unfortunatly
[05:46] <Chousuke> BigDaddy: /home is /home
[05:46] <Chousuke> BigDaddy: why would you change it :)
[05:47] <BigDaddy> hmm, I think I am not saying this right...
[05:47] <Chousuke> say you have two disks
[05:47] <Chousuke> A and B
[05:47] <BigDaddy> yeah
[05:47] <flaccid> you can symlinke /home if you need to
[05:47] <Chousuke> it's entirely possible that / uses the entirety of A
[05:47] <Chousuke> and /home uses all of B
[05:47] <BigDaddy> oh wow...
[05:48] <BigDaddy> I could do that easily. 30GB HD for system, 200GB for users
[05:48] <Chousuke> you can also just make a directory under your home dir, say /home/bdaddy/data and then mount the big B disk under that
[05:48] <Chousuke> and all the space will be available in /home/bdaddy/data after that
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> lol... and when you make a user.. you can set his /home to be pretty much anywhere.
[05:49] <BigDaddy> OK, so the fact that home appears under / in the file manager doesn't meant that it is on the same disk?
[05:49] <Chousuke> yes
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: not at all.
[05:49] <Chousuke> BigDaddy: it might even be a network drive
[05:49] <Chousuke> or an SSH mount if you use sshfs :P
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: run "df" which will show you all your mounted partitions and where they are mounted.
[05:50] <nosrednaekim> or your google mail account if you use gfs(or whatever its called) ;)
[05:50] <BigDaddy> Chousuke: a netowork user profile? jesus
[05:50] <Chousuke> BigDaddy: a simple thing to do
[05:51] <Chousuke> BigDaddy: but it doesn't have to be /home. it can be anything
[05:51] <BigDaddy> Chousuke: I just can't believe the flexibility
[05:51] <BigDaddy> I am looking at my mount points
[05:53] <flaccid> all this comes from unix :)
[05:55] <Chaos_King> I just installed kubuntu a few days ago, right now i wanna do something as root (SU) but I don't have a password which works
[05:55] <flaccid> !root
[05:55] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> !sudo
[05:56] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:56] <Chaos_King> nice
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> that is soo Zen...lol
[05:56] <BigDaddy> Someone has seen the matrix too many times
[05:56] <Chaos_King> but how do I use Sudo in a console?
[05:56] <BigDaddy> there is no root password
[05:57] <BigDaddy> sudo <command>
[05:57] <syndaily> sudo passwd root
[05:57] <flaccid> read the links pasted ..
[05:57] <BigDaddy> syndaily: you  can do that?
[05:57] <syndaily> yep, then set your pass
[05:57] <BigDaddy> enter your password before the command
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> anyway...have fun ya'll! I have to run..
[05:58] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: thanks again for all the help
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> oh yeah :)
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> and there is sudo bash.. :)
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: yep... no problemo. Have fun.
[05:59] <BigDaddy> you betcha
[06:01] <BigDaddy> well, I need to feed the kids. Thanks for all the info guys. I can't wait to try this stuff out.
[06:04] <WHamra> how do i stop a program from running on start up?
[06:05] <flaccid> start up as in boot or login as user?
[06:06] <axel_s> Hi, since the last gutsy update I cant use k3b anymore
[06:06] <WHamra> login
[06:06] <axel_s> Only one line in dcopserver file !:
[06:07] <axel_s> DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed networkIdsList argument is NULL
[06:07] <axel_s> Only one line in dcopserver file !:
[06:07] <axel_s> DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed networkIdsList argument is NULL
[06:07] <axel_s> DCOPServer self-test failed.
[06:07] <axel_s> kdeinit: DCOPServer could not be started, aborting.
[06:07] <axel_s> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.
[06:07] <flaccid> !pastebin > axel_s
[06:07] <axel_s> !pastebin
[06:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:07] <flaccid> WHamra, check session manager in kcontrol - by default programs left open from last session are opened again
[06:07] <flaccid> !autostart | WHamra
[06:07] <ubotu> WHamra: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:07] <flaccid> there is also autostart
[06:08] <WHamra> ok, thnx
[06:08] <flaccid> np
[06:11] <lupul> linux ruuuulss!!!!
[06:11] <lupul> but does anyone know where does envy download files?
[06:14] <roflcopter_> Is there a channel somewhere for General chatting? Or one to talk about BitTorrent?
[06:15] <flaccid> there was #freenode-social and there is #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:24] <qazqaz> hi
[06:32] <mas195> can ne1 help me with a setting up a wireless adapter problem
[06:35] <thetyr> I've been having a problem with my Kubuntu 7.10 installation. Whenever I login, it immediately restarts the X Server bringing me back to the KDM screen.
[06:44] <RurouniJones> thetyr: Checked harddisk space left?
[06:44] <RurouniJones> That happened to me when I ran out
[06:44] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | thetyr
[06:44] <thetyr> Yeah I have well over 100 gigs free. I created a new username as well thinking it might be a script in my home directory, however it won't let me login the new one saying "failed to load KStartupManager"
[06:45] <ubotu> thetyr: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[06:46] <thetyr> I should go there for support waltzingalong?
[06:47] <thetyr> I think my problem is distro independent and lies with a problem in KDE though...I don't mind deleting my home directory since it was a relatively new installation and don't really have much of value there.
[06:49] <tito_> hola
[06:53] <jussi01> !es | tito_
[06:53] <ubotu> tito_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:58] <tehk> What is the best way to composite kubuntu/gutsy?
[06:59] <contrast83> tehk: Compiz-Fusion?
[07:00] <thetyr> does anyone know where scripts are normally located in the home directory?
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> thetyr: anywhere you want
[07:01] <hasan> !adeptfix
[07:01] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:01] <thetyr> well my problem is I need to delete them because one of them is causing my X server to crash after login
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> thetyr: ah... what is it called?
[07:03] <thetyr> I don't know...but that's the only reason I can think of that would be causing my issue (x server restarts whenever I login, bringing me back tot he kdm screen -> i created a new account too but it says that it can't load KStartUpManger)
[07:04] <wolferine> can you burn a CD movie using kmediaplayer?
[07:04] <wolferine> or is it just for DVDs?
[07:05] <thetyr> wolferine - I'm not sure, but most people just use K3B
[07:05] <eljefe__> I want to test the version upgrade to Gutsy; is there a channel specific for this?
[07:06] <contrast83> eljefe__: #ubuntu+1
[07:06] <eljefe__> thanks
[07:06] <contrast83> np
[07:07] <DevideZero> kubuntu 7.10 have alot new things ?
[07:08] <thetyr> DevideZero: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/RC/Kubuntu
[07:08] <sstchur> Anyone know a thing or two about setting up samba?  I've been trying to hit up the samba channel, but it's just dead right now
[07:11] <WaltzingAlong> thetyr: yes it may be independent of gutsy but for now visit #ubuntu+1
[07:11] <thetyr> waltzing, i tried but no one responded
[07:11] <DevideZero> i have request shipit kubuntu cd ( 1 32 bit cd and 1 64 it cd ) i will get beta version on the cd or the will wait to the stable and the will send to me ?
[07:12] <sstchur> how do I run that system update tool?
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> DevideZero: they will wait
[07:13] <DevideZero> great
[07:14] <DevideZero> maybe someday sanyptic will be the default kubuntu package manager?
[07:16] <WaltzingAlong> DevideZero: i doubt it
[07:16] <nosrednaekim> DevideZero: doubt it
[07:16] <Level15> that'd be like having kubuntu use gnome... well, not quite, but almost
[07:17] <WaltzingAlong> considering it would make best sense for the kubuntu gui package manager to be kde/qt based
[07:18] <DevideZero> what wrong with sanyptic ? i think its better
[07:18] <WaltzingAlong> DevideZero: what is wrong with it for kde? is that it is based on gtk so all of the necessary gtk libraries would need to be included.
[07:18] <WaltzingAlong> DevideZero: perhaps you can give aptitude a try. it has a ncurses interface as well.
[07:18] <emilsedgh> i hope adept will get some love from usability people, i hate to see a gtk+ application in kubuntu
[07:19] <WaltzingAlong> DevideZero: so perhaps you could start on a qt4 port of synaptic, matching the interface?
[07:20] <DevideZero> what ?
[07:20] <hellhound> how do you get a list of services for update-rc.d?
[07:20] <WaltzingAlong> !info bum | hellhound
[07:20] <ubotu> hellhound: bum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.8-1 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 528 kB
[07:20] <WaltzingAlong> DevideZero: if you would like to see synaptic in kubuntu, perhaps you could be working on either improving adept or some such thing.
[07:24] <DevideZero> WaltzingAlong , i dont understand what is the problem , i have installed synaptic i kubuntu 7.04 with no problems ...
[07:24] <emilsedgh> DevideZero: the problem is that snaptic is a gtk+ application...
[07:29] <Tm_T> hi kids
[07:29] <sub[t] rnl> greets tm
[07:30] <nosrednaekim> hi Tm_T
[07:30] <kalex> hola
[07:30] <WaltzingAlong> devidezero: yes you can install synaptic in kubuntu. it will work. they are all interfaces to apt. you can use aptitude or apt-get or dpkg from with the cli.
[07:31] <Level15> any kde wizard around?
[07:32] <Tm_T> Level15: instead of asking that, perhaps tell your problem if there iss any
[07:32] <Tm_T> -s
[07:32] <sub[t] rnl> just got done setting up nfs on my old box
[07:32] <sub[t] rnl> turned it into a media server
[07:32] <Level15> need to launch an application via dcop
[07:32] <sub[t] rnl> im excited :P
[07:35] <Tm_T> Level15: does kdcop help with that?
[07:35] <Tm_T> oh, nice
[07:36] <sstchur> ok, so when trying to do a version upgrade, I get "could not verify the integrity of this upgrader application."  How do I work around this?
[07:41] <WaltzingAlong> sstchur: check the website. http://kubuntu.org
[07:43] <Myrth[home] > hi, on my thinkpad x40 gutsy have this problem - when close the lid and reopen, the whole screen goes down by about 20px and top space is fliled with memory junk. to fix i have to switch to console and back. anyone knows about this problem?
[07:46] <makuseru> how can i burn a MP3 cd on K3B
[07:47] <WaltzingAlong> makuseru: either you want a data cd with mp3 files or an audio cd the source of which can be mp3 files
[07:47] <makuseru> but an audio cd holds alot less than an mp3 cd
[07:47] <makuseru> so if i do it as a Data CD and just put mp3s itll play in an MP3 CD player
[07:49] <kristjan_> command to see into which usergroups does user belong?
[07:49] <sub[t] rnl> makuseru: yes, making a normal data cd with mp3's should work for mp3 players
[07:49] <makuseru> ok
[07:49] <makuseru> thanks
[07:50] <frank_> kristjan_: groups username
[07:51] <sub[t] rnl> makuseru: make sure you have libk3b2 and libmad0 and libmad0-dev installed, if you havn't already
[07:51] <sub[t] rnl> makuseru: mp3 cd's are essentially just a data cd anyway
[07:53] <MuTaNiX> Ciauuuzzz
[07:53] <[seb] > hi can any one help me solve this error with ndiswrapper on kubuntu 6.06 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40555/
[07:54] <kristjan_> command to add user x to vboxusers
[07:54] <[seb] > any one?
[07:56] <sub[t] rnl> kristjan_: adduser x -g vboxusers
[07:57] <[seb] > do u guys have any idea on solving this on kubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40555/
[07:57] <sub[t] rnl> !patience
[07:57] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:57] <kristjan_> sub[t] rnl: what's the difference between sudo adduser <usr> vboxusers ?
[07:57] <sub[t] rnl> kristjan_: no idea :P
[08:01] <sub[t] rnl> [seb] : what do you see when you do ndiswrapper -l?
[08:03] <medivh> Quick question: Anyone happen to know WHERE you can modify the scroll bars? The updown buttons at the bottom I find rather annoying. I've been looking in the System Settings and I can't seem to find it.
[08:04] <sub[t] rnl> medivh: for what application?
[08:04] <medivh> sub[t] rnl, is it not possible to modify them in general? For all windows?
[08:05] <cathedra> hi
[08:06] <cathedra> hi?
[08:06] <sub[t] rnl> medivh: I'm guessing you have already looked in kcontrol -> appearance
[08:06] <cathedra> can I ask a question?
[08:06] <sub[t] rnl> cathedra: of course you can
[08:06] <cathedra> I am having problems trying to burn a floppy with K3B :-(
[08:07] <medivh> sub[t] rnl, yes, I'm looking at it right now if I've been missing it?
[08:07] <sub[t] rnl> medivh: no, I havn't looked myself, was just assuming it could be done there
[08:09] <sub[t] rnl> medivh: each application might handle them differently though, for example firefox handles its own scroll bar theme differently than say konsole would
[08:09] <cathedra> hwy isn't my floppyy showing up on k3b? I need to burn something
[08:09] <chris_> how do I get the volume key's to control the sound up and down?
[08:09] <chris_> I use the PCM channel but so far I can only mute /unmute sound
[08:09] <medivh> sub[t] rnl, well it appears that the colour scheme setup...overrides it? Because now firefox as the little bottom arrows as well, I suppose it's fine, I just never use the bottom arrow down there lol
[08:10] <medivh> Seemed like it was useless fluff.
[08:10] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[08:14] <sub[t] rnl> chris_: you might want to look at keytouch to setup your keyboard.  sudo apt-get install keytouch
[08:20] <dick-richardson> anyone got the bluegears b-enspirer working? I've build the drivers from the website as per the included instruction (as root) and still nothing
[08:24] <mluser> Is it possible to disable the switch user feature on the screen saver?
[08:28] <ScorpKing> i'm trying to set the screen resolution to 1024x768 but i have to scroll the screen to see it all. i think the HorizSync and VertRefresh is out. any idea what those should be?
[08:29] <ScorpKing> it's on 20-64 and 43-60 atm.
[08:29] <itzik> /////////
[08:30] <ScorpKing> >.<
[08:31] <Ben_Cs> hello
[08:31] <ScorpKing> hi
[08:31] <Ben_Cs> is there a manager to install a kde theme i downloaded?
[08:32] <ScorpKing> it's in kcontrol
[08:33] <Ben_Cs> ScorpKing: u mean : MENU -> SYSTEM SETTINGS ->LOOK & FEEL ?
[08:33] <ScorpKing> press <alt>+<f2> and type kcontrol
[08:34] <ScorpKing> Apearance & Themes --> Theme Manager.
[08:34] <Ben_Cs> ScorpKing: i see. weird it aint in menu
[08:35] <ScorpKing> heh. i don't have a standard menu so i'm not sure where to find it. :)
[08:37] <Ben_Cs> thanks
[08:38] <alarm> hello, which is the command to reconfigure xserver ?
[08:39] <ubuntu_> hello
[08:39] <ubuntu_> LiMaO its just me passing bordem lol
[08:40] <ubuntu_> eh <lee>
[08:40] <ScorpKing> hehe. mb
[08:40] <ubuntu_> I found out something peculiar about this cd rom
[08:42] <ubuntu_> if you load Kubuntu in a norma stetting, you don't get to sign in, but if you use the OEM stetting, and then click prepare for distubution, after the restart it gives you an error then procededs to the sign up, after that yo uhave access to the full system
[08:42] <ubuntu_> Wierd
[08:43] <ubuntu_> hmm any ideas on why this might be the case?
[08:43] <ubuntu_> any one?
[08:44] <ubuntu_> erg my screens shrinking lol
[08:47] <kristjan_> O_o people are genuinely interested in ubuntu, then they have a change to use it
[08:48] <Ben_Cs> so i get it right? in kde-look.org, under "themes" tab, "theme manager" are themes for the kde manager, and all the others are just icons that i have to arrange manualy into a theme? (no .theme file)?
[08:49] <ScorpKing> !xorg
[08:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:49] <ScorpKing> :D
[08:50] <Hamra> one thing i learned from winxp is that changing themes causes loads of problems, so im really not willing to mess with themes on kubuntu!
[08:52] <sub[t] rnl> messing with kubuntu themes is a must imo.  You want to make you linux box your own.  Its liberating :P
[08:53] <NightBird> yeah, the nice thing about kde is most programs don't assume you have a single display style
[08:54] <mluser>  Is it possible to disable the switch user feature on the screen saver?
[08:55] <sub[t] rnl> mluser: never tried, let me look around
[08:55] <mluser> sub[t] rnl: thanks :)
[08:55] <Hamra> i guess you have a point when you say liberating, but i always end up with the screen uglier than the original one, maybe its something to do with my taste :P
[08:55] <sub[t] rnl> Hamra: lol
[08:56] <sub[t] rnl> Hamra: I think I have ah "fugly-block" plugin you can compile..
[08:56] <sub[t] rnl> :D
[08:57] <Hamra> thnx
[08:58] <jokerdj> sry
[09:02] <sub[t] rnl> mluser: what screen saver are you looking at? None of the default kde screen savers appear to have a switch user on them
[09:02] <Hamra> whenever adept downloads upgrades, and is about to start installing i click "show details" and see
[09:03] <Hamra> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[09:03] <Hamra>   Major opcode:  144
[09:03] <Hamra>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:03] <Hamra>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:03] <Hamra> Failed to open device
[09:03] <Hamra> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[09:03] <Hamra>   Major opcode:  144
[09:03] <Hamra>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:03] <mluser> sub[t] rnl: any screensaver, currently I'm running the blank screensaver.. and I want to keep others from switching to their accounts when I have the screensaver locked
[09:03] <Hamra>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:03] <Hamra> Failed to open device
[09:03] <ardchoille> !baddevice | Hamra
[09:03] <ubotu> Hamra: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[09:04] <ardchoille> sub[t] rnl: I think he's talking about when he locks the screen, the "switch user" dialog comes up when you move the mouse.
[09:04] <mluser> sub[t] rnl: the password prompt also has a 'switch user' button that allows others to log into their accounts.. it start a new X display
[09:04] <medivh> I think I might go back to using dapper...
[09:04] <sub[t] rnl> ahh, i see
[09:04] <medivh> I'm having such an amazing amount of annoying bugs on Fiesty that it makes me sad :(
[09:04] <ardchoille> mluser: In the screensaver properties, uncheck the box that say "Lock screen"
[09:05] <mluser> ardchoille: then I cant lock my screen
[09:05] <ardchoille> medivh: What bugs? I've been running Feisty since it was released and I don't see any bugs
[09:05] <ardchoille> mluser: the switch user is part of the lock
[09:06] <mluser> ardchoille: so there is no way to disable the switch user feature?
[09:06] <mluser> and still allow me to lock my screen?
[09:07] <sub[t] rnl> oh, theres always a way
[09:07] <medivh> ardchoille, well I've had to reformat it twice, because the first time the actual format just straight didn't work...I chalked it up to bad download, went back on windows redownloaded the ISO and tried again. Worked the second time...for about an hour, then I get a black screen, with a white blinking console cursor.
[09:07] <ardchoille> mluser: Not uless you hack the kdescreensaver
[09:07] <mluser> ok.. thanks
[09:07] <medivh> It refused to start up, I was able to mount the installation from the liveCD
[09:07] <medivh> but it wouldn't start up :P Which annoyed me, but I got over it and just reformatted again.
[09:08] <kaminix> Where can I read about all the things happening with Konqueror 4? I want to know if I'll be able to replace Swiftfox with Konqueror for KDE 4 :p
[09:08] <medivh> It's been working fine until all of a sudden I log in and my fonts are tiny, like...Illegibly, so I go under my appearances and make them larger, because anything lower than 12pt is unreadable, but now I just restarted and 12 point is for some reason...Huge.
[09:09] <medivh> Making icons on my desktop to my devices was annoying, instead of using the dropdown, I had to type them in manually, because for some reason every time I tried to dropdown it would reset to some default.
[09:09] <medivh> I would call those, indeed, bugs :P
[09:10] <medivh> I'd been using dapper since it was released and I never had such problems. As much as I WANT to use Fiesty, it just appears that it hates me O_O
[09:11] <sea4ever> Is there anything like "mspaint" ?
[09:11] <ardchoille> medivh: Have you installed anything outside the repos? or compiled apps or used someone else's scripts?
[09:12] <sub[t] rnl> medivh: I have seen this happen on my box (fiesty) a few times.  Simply /etc/init.d/kdm restart and it corrected it.  Are you using Beryl?
[09:12] <medivh> ardchoille, Nope...well I tried one, but it failed to make every time I tried it so I just said "Screw it" and forgot about it, because I had all the requirements it just...wouldn't make.
[09:12] <ScorpKing> i dont have xf86config. how do i reconfigure X?
[09:12] <medivh> sub[t] rnl, No :(
[09:12] <sub[t] rnl> ScorpKing: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:13] <ScorpKing> thanks. :D
[09:13] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: You'll need sudo for that
[09:13] <ScorpKing> hehe. i know. :P
[09:13] <ardchoille> medivh: You probably couldn't "make" because you didn't install build-essential first?
[09:13] <hasse_> hey, i have installed kubuntu 7.10 on my thinkpad t61p, have no sound
[09:13] <ardchoille> hasse_: join #ubuntu+1
[09:14] <medivh> ardchoille, oh well yes, that's probably why *lol*.
[09:14] <medivh> Either way I'm sure that's not the spawn of all my bugs.
[09:14] <ardchoille> medivh: That tells me that those "bugs" could be user error of some sort :P
[09:15] <medivh> ardchoille, I may not know Linux as well as I should considering how long I've been using it, but I certainly know what not to touch, for fear of damaging the system.
[09:15] <hasse_> ardchoille, thought that it was for ubuntu users only, and not kubuntu
[09:16] <ardchoille> hasse_: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for all development releases
[09:17] <Hamra> is there anything similar to the windows task manager or process explorer?
[09:17] <ardchoille> Hamra: menu > System > KSysGuard
[09:18] <spiroo> How do I install a .rpm-package?
[09:18] <ardchoille> spiroo: You don't. kubuntu uses .debpackages.
[09:18] <ardchoille> spiroo: and converting an rpm to deb is dangerous
[09:18] <ardchoille> spiroo: Which app are you looking for?
[09:18] <spiroo> Okay, but I downloaded on adobe.com and they do not have as .deb.
[09:19] <spiroo> I am looking for Adobe reader
[09:19] <rohan> in kubuntu gutsy rc, my raise and lower volume keys are not working as expected. what component do i file a bug against ?
[09:19] <spiroo> and I do not wanna use kpdf.
[09:19] <ardchoille> rohan: join #ubuntu+1
[09:19] <medivh> rohan, gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[09:20] <rohan> but no one was replying there so :P
[09:20] <medivh> !patience
[09:20] <medivh> aww where's ubotu >.<
[09:20] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:21] <medivh> There we go, he's just slow lol
[09:21] <ardchoille> spiroo: I seem to remember an acrobat plugin being in the repos
[09:21] <rohan> medivh: i know i know ..
[09:22] <rohan> did i commit that big a crime !
[09:22] <medivh> rohan, No...Just saying don't be so antsy ;) If there's one thing working on computers as long as I have has taught me: Patience keeps you from setting them on fire.
[09:23] <rohan> medivh: no, i thought maybe some kubuntu gutsy user might be here. after all, technically there should be a #kubuntu+1 too ;)
[09:23] <medivh> Rohan, True, *Shrug* I'm sure a lot of them are in here, but the help is over there.
[09:24] <spiroo> ardchoille: OKay thanks I look there
[09:24] <medivh> Anywho, in the spirit of...fun adventerous learning experiences...I'm going to try reformatting one last time. hehe
[09:26] <ardchoille> !seveas | spiroo Try this repo
[09:26] <ubotu> spiroo Try this repo: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - And he's getting married!
[09:27] <spiroo> But I wanna use Adobe Reader GUI, or else I could just use KPDF
[09:27] <sd32> Can I upgrade to 7.10 through kubuntu or do I need  to use ubuntu?
[09:27] <spiroo> sd32: Yes
[09:27] <ardchoille> spiroo: iirc, the acroread plugin also installs the acrobat reader
[09:27] <spiroo> Kubuntu is a part of Ubuntu development
[09:27] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[09:27] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[09:27] <spiroo> acroread?
[09:27] <ardchoille> yes
[09:28] <spiroo> Cannot find it
[09:28] <sd32> spiroo, thanks
[09:28] <spiroo> Does not pop up in adept repositories
[09:28] <spiroo> np
[09:29] <ardchoille> spiroo: Of course it doesn't, you need to read that link ubotu sent you about seveas
[09:29] <spiroo> sd32: But for now, 7.10 has not been released as final version yet. It is just for RC right now. The full release is coming 18 october.
[09:30] <ardchoille> spiroo: Never mind, it's no longer there. I guess acroread isn't available in ubuntu abymore. But, there's kpdf and kghostview
[09:33] <spiroo> But on adobes website I can download. But if I download tar.gz. How do I do then?
[09:33] <spiroo> They have .rpm, .bz2, tar.gz
[09:34] <ardchoille> spiroo: You can't use an rpm, forget it. download the tarball, unpack it and read the files. It should have a README or INSTALL file telling you what to do.
[09:34] <sd32> man, that  bot text is out of date
[09:34] <spiroo> Okay thanks, yes I guess .rpm is for ubuntu or something like that
[09:35] <ardchoille> rpm is for Red Hat, Fedora, SuSe, etc.
[09:37] <spiroo> ah okay :P
[09:41] <apol> is it safe to update to 7.10 from a previous one, or it is safer to reinstall everything?
[09:42] <ardchoille> !upgrade | apol
[09:42] <ubotu> apol: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[09:43] <Hamra> i cant imagine having to redownload all my programs again with my crappy connection, so definitly  upgrade :P
[09:43] <apol> ardchoille: thanks
[09:44] <ScorpKing> is there a way to autodetect video modes for a crt monitor?
[09:47] <ardchoille> Hamra: You could always run a command and and let it work while you sleep: sudo apt-get install app1 app2 app3 app4 app5
[09:48] <sd32> whats the cutoff date for support for 7.04?
[09:48] <ardchoille> sd32: October 2008 ?
[09:48] <Hamra> so i can apt-get multiple programs? this might prove useful
[09:48] <sd32> thanks
[09:49] <ardchoille> Hamra: yes, my apt-get command after an install includes 29 packages
[09:49] <ardchoille> Well, 29 main packages, and their deps
[09:57] <andrewmin> hey all, having trouble with my new logitech ak5370 usb microphone
[09:57] <andrewmin> its showing up in lusb but nothing can record with it
[09:58] <andrewmin> i tried mhwaveedit and skype, and niether could
[09:58] <rohan> andrewmin: did you set the microphone gain high in alsamixer ?
[09:59] <andrewmin> let me try that
[09:59] <andrewmin> well, i did it in kmix
[09:59] <andrewmin> let me try
[10:00] <andrewmin> no, sitll not working :-(
[10:00] <Hamra> when i plugged my ntfs usb flash stick, a window asked me what  to do, i clicked on open, but nothing happened!
[10:00] <tehk> Anyone know if there is any repo with eric4 in it for gutsy?
[10:02] <ardchoille> tehk: eric 3.9.5 is in gutsy repos. I don't know about eric4
[10:03] <tehk> ardchoille: thanks
[10:15] <mavenjinx> anyone know where i can find info on compiling kubunta to dual boot on my laptop
[10:15] <mavenjinx> i need to make the install as small as posible
[10:15] <ardchoille> mavenjinx: You might want to look into installing the server version and then build up from there.
[10:17] <ScorpKing> i have a ps/2 mouse but it doesn't work. if i plug a usb mouse in, it works. sudo lshw doesn't show any usefull info. /var/log/messages shows mice: PS/2 device common found all mice. any ideas?
[10:22] <WaltzingAlong> mavenjinx: make the install of kubuntu as small as possible?
[10:26] <mavenjinx> ok will kubunta use free space on a windows partition
[10:26] <[ifr0g] > i belive that in poss
[10:29] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm having a bit of trouble with Gusty - do I ask here or somewhere else?
[10:30] <kristjan_> #ubuntu+1
[10:30] <Ch1ppy> thought so, thanks
[10:30] <kristjan_> Ch1ppy: look at channel topic
[10:30] <Ch1ppy> damnit, I did look
[10:31] <Ch1ppy> I missed the first part
[10:31] <Ch1ppy> my bad :)
[10:31] <ScorpKing> !mouse
[10:31] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[10:34] <Breetai> Hi all, simple question. 64bit edition of kubuntu. I know flash is 32 bit, and if you want it in firefox you have to install the 32 bit edtion. Will 32bit flash work in konqueror?
[10:38] <sea4ever> Control + alt + backspace, What does it do?
[10:39] <NickPresta> sea4ever, restarts X
[10:39] <sea4ever> But some of my stuff are still running
[10:39] <sea4ever> Only now, they have no icon or anything
[10:44] <ebovine> Is there a way to downgrade a package that was applied in my apt-get upgrade today?
[10:44] <ebovine> Somebody broke SVN over HTTP
[10:46] <sylvain> hi all
[10:47] <sylvain> could someone help me ?
[10:47] <ebovine> with what?
[10:47] <sylvain> please ?
[10:47] <sylvain> i lost a partition
[10:47] <ebovine> What do you mean "lost"?
[10:48] <ScorpKing> ebovine: apt-get has a --no-upgrade option and aptitude has hold and keep. look at the man pages. not sure how to use them.
[10:48] <ebovine> Thanks ScorpKign
[10:48] <sylvain> because i make a new install of ubuntu, and when i made the partitions during installation, i forgot to unchek "format" my old partition with all my data
[10:48] <ebovine> Thanks ScorpKing
[10:48] <sylvain> (i am french)
[10:48] <ScorpKing> np
[10:48] <ebovine> sylvain: If you formatted the partion you're done.
[10:49] <sylvain> no
[10:49] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:49] <ScorpKing> yes
[10:49] <sylvain> i use testdisk and photorec
[10:49] <sylvain> i can recover my files
[10:49] <sylvain> but they are strangely named
[10:49] <ebovine> Yeah, the file allocation table was wiped out.
[10:49] <sylvain> i can use fdisk and gparted too
[10:49] <ScorpKing> testdisk is the only option i know of that can help.
[10:49] <sylvain> 'don't know exactly what you mean
[10:49] <ebovine> You'll have to figure out the filenames by yourself.
[10:50] <ScorpKing> true
[10:50] <ebovine> The filenames were stored in the file allocation tables.
[10:50] <sylvain> i understand
[10:50] <ScorpKing> which is gone now.
[10:50] <ebovine> Those most certainly were destroyed during the format.
[10:50] <sylvain> bu chat are th "file allocation tables" ?
[10:51] <ebovine> They tell the OS "a file named 'this' starts at this track/sector and ends at this track/sector"
[10:51] <sylvain> *but what are the "file allocation tables" ?
[10:51] <ScorpKing> that's where the info about the files are stored, like filenames. i think it's nodes in linux.
[10:51] <sylvain> ok...
[10:51] <ebovine> Depends on the FS type.
[10:51] <sylvain> i may use testdisk to restore the partition, and i hope it will work
[10:51] <sylvain> the FS was ext3
[10:52] <ebovine> nodes then.  It's a journaled FS.
[10:52] <ScorpKing> sylvain: make a image of the disk and work on the image if you can.
[10:52] <ebovine> It will be able to get any file that wasn't overwritten during the install, but you'll have to figure out the name by hand.
[10:53] <sylvain> scorpking > make a disk image, and worl on it like if it is a virtual machine ?
[10:54] <ScorpKing> yes
[10:54] <sylvain> here are my partitions : http://cjoint.com/data/knw06W3hqA.htm
[10:54] <sylvain> ok
[10:54] <sylvain> i may try
[10:54] <sylvain> but i don't know how to make an image
[10:54] <ScorpKing> with dd
[10:55] <sylvain> dd ?? what's that ?
[10:56] <ScorpKing> sudo dd if=/dev/hd? of=diskimage.img
[10:56] <ScorpKing> it's used to make images from devices and so on.
[10:57] <ScorpKing> replace /dev/hd? with your disk or partition that you want to recover.
[10:58] <ebovine> ScorpKing: Do you know if the old .debs are stored locally anywhere?
[10:58] <ebovine> ...or not.
[10:58] <ebovine> :)
[10:58] <ScorpKing> yes
[10:58] <ebovine> Thanks
[10:58] <ScorpKing> in /var/cache/apt/archives i think
[10:59] <ebovine> Yep.
[11:02] <NickPresta> ebovine, this may be of use to you: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-pin   you can try pinning the previous package, removing the newer, broken package and then upgrading again (it should install the pinned version), I believe.
[11:02] <mkf> Hi there
[11:03] <NickPresta> hi, mkf
[11:03] <ebovine> NickPresta: Excellent.  Thanks.
[11:03] <mkf> Is there a way to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy like when changing from Edgy to Feisty?
[11:03] <NickPresta> ebovine, although the repo which holds that package may not have an older version available, in which case, I think you have to find an alternate installation source.
[11:03] <DanDart> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[11:03] <NickPresta> !upgrade | mkf
[11:03] <ubotu> mkf: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:04] <mkf> Ok, I'll try that. Thank you :D
[11:04] <xevious> i believe the upgrade noes are online
[11:04] <xevious> mkf: don't do that yet
[11:04] <NickPresta> not updated yet...
[11:04] <xevious> mkf: hold up
[11:04] <mkf> kk
[11:04] <xevious> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[11:04] <NickPresta> mkf, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52 although I believe its going to change in 5 days
[11:05] <xevious> i'm waiting for gutsy final
[11:05] <NickPresta> xevious, indeed
[11:05] <clouder> holy crap, kubuntu has peyton manning and tom green endorsing it?
[11:05] <ebovine> xevious: add another vote.
[11:05] <NickPresta> clouder, I don't know. Does Kubuntu have PM and TG endorsing it?
[11:06] <clouder> from the looks of kubuntu.org it would seem that way
[11:06] <NickPresta> is that who those people are, in those pictures?
[11:07] <xevious> hah
[11:07] <xevious> no
[11:07] <xevious> near-lookalikes
[11:07] <xevious> good one, clouder
[11:07] <clouder> ;P ty
[11:08] <mrtimbo> when does 4.10 get released?
[11:08] <NickPresta> mrtimbo, 3 years ago and 5 days =)
[11:08] <ebovine> hehe
[11:08] <NickPresta> !gutsy
[11:08] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:08] <mrtimbo> Thats what i though
[11:08] <mrtimbo> t
[11:08] <coreymon77> xevious: im with you, its as far as i know, less than a week till gutsy final, so im gonna just wait for it
[11:08] <coreymon77> xevious: im personally a bit iffy about using beta oses
[11:09] <xevious> me three
[11:09] <mrtimbo> I have the rc now, think im going to do a fresh install when its released
[11:09] <coreymon77> i use lots of beta software, im fine with that
[11:09] <coreymon77> just not a beta os
[11:11] <xevious> can someone say something to me (aka xevious: hi) in about two seconds. changed my notification settings and want to confirm it.
[11:11] <NickPresta> xevious, hello
[11:11] <ebovine> xevious: no.
[11:11] <xevious> thanks
[11:11] <xevious> worked
[11:11] <sylvain> Thanks for sudo dd if=/dev/hd? of=diskimage.img
[11:12] <sylvain> so, it will make a disk image
[11:12] <xevious> oh.
[11:12] <xevious> once more please?
[11:12] <ebovine> xevious: forget it.
[11:12] <sylvain> and will it work in virtual box ?
[11:12] <mkf> So, I'll try dist-upgrade anyways and maybe reinstall the whole system on the 18th. Thanks for the advices NickPresta, xevious
[11:12] <xevious> thanks all
[11:13] <ScorpKing> sylvain: i'm not sure. i does work in qemu tho.
[11:13] <ScorpKing> how do i set the resolution of bootsplash lower?
[11:13] <dick-richardson> anyone get the b-enspirer driver working?
[11:13] <xevious> ebovine: could you stop being so disagreeable?? (aka: one mo' time!)
[11:13] <ebovine> xevious: Uhh...
[11:14] <sylvain> Scorpking : thanj you
[11:14] <sylvain> i will use qemu so
[11:14] <ScorpKing> np
[11:14] <xevious> ebovine: perfect. got it set now. thanks
[11:14] <ebovine> n/p
[11:14] <xevious> i was getting annoyed by kopete loudly beeping whenever someone said something to me in here
[11:15] <bjwebb> hi
[11:15] <bjwebb> why do tabs in konversation konsole and konqueror not fit in when i apply a black colour scheme?
[11:15] <gunashekar> hi
[11:15] <bjwebb> and what can i do about it?
[11:15] <dick-richardson> anyone using a good quality sound card?
[11:16] <NickPresta> bjwebb, which color scheme are you trying to apply? and what do you mean, "not fit"? Do they look out of place?
[11:16] <bjwebb> _very_
[11:16] <bjwebb> its a dark theme and they're very light
[11:17] <bjwebb> Deep Black it's called
[11:17] <NickPresta> bjwebb, is there a place I can download this color scheme?
[11:18] <bjwebb> NickPresta: it was ion kde-look, ill see if i can get you a link
[11:18] <NickPresta> I found it, I think
[11:18] <NickPresta> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Deep+Black?content=66553 ??
[11:19] <xevious> dick-richardson: it's onboard sound on this computer. i have a ridiculously nice sound card in my recording workstation, but there's no linux drivers for it unfortunately
[11:19] <xevious> dick-richardson: what's the problem you're having?
[11:19] <bjwebb> NickPresta: yea
[11:19] <dick-richardson> I've downloaded the drivers from bgears.com and followed the instructions...still no sound :/
[11:20] <NickPresta> bjwebb, do you have all the requirements listed on that page?
[11:20] <ebovine> Woohoo.  Got subversion un-screwed up.
[11:21] <NickPresta> ebovine, did my "pin" solution work?
[11:21] <bjwebb> erm
[11:21] <ebovine> No.
[11:21] <ebovine> Had to find an old .deb and just install it.
[11:21] <ScorpKing> ebovine: how then?
[11:21] <bjwebb> okay i didn't want all the stuff
[11:21] <NickPresta> ebovine, ah okay.
[11:21] <ScorpKing> heh. i see
[11:22] <ebovine> If you value http or https for your svn don't update to the 1.4.3dfsg1-1ubuntu1.1 version.
[11:22] <NickPresta> bjwebb, well, I would assume if you didn't have the required theme stuff, the color scheme would look odd on whichever theme you decided to use
[11:22] <bjwebb> it looks fine except for these tabs
[11:24] <xevious> dick-richardson: downloading the drivers so i can read the instructions
[11:24] <dick-richardson> xevious: you're good people. thank you
[11:24] <xevious> dick-richardson: np
[11:25] <dick-richardson> I did run them as root...
[11:25] <ScorpKing> i made a disk with AptOnCD but now i can't use it. if i run apt-key add /dev/hdc it sais failed: invalid keyring. is there a way to work around it?
[11:27] <bjwebb> NickPresta: the colour scheme works fine with polyester, so i think maybe somethings wrong to do with domino
[11:28] <ScorpKing> domino does need more work...
[11:29] <sparr_> Is there a way to have a script modify my shell's environment other than using source?  in bash.
[11:31] <xevious> dick-richardson: .
[11:31] <xevious> er
[11:31] <dick-richardson> xevious: the instructions are rather generic...standard 'how do I install a program from source' type answer
[11:31] <xevious> dick-richardson: yeah.
[11:31] <xevious> dick-richardson: after doing make install of the driver, i'd imagine you actually have to load the module
[11:32] <dick-richardson> sudo depmod -a?
[11:33] <xevious> dick-richardson: cd /lib/modules then find . -name cmi8788.ko
[11:33] <xevious> make sure it actually has a module in the right place
[11:34] <bjwebb> NickPresta: its the colour sheme for domino thats mucked up
[11:34] <NickPresta> bjwebb, oh.
[11:35] <ScorpKing> nite guys
[11:35] <dick-richardson> xevious: nothing there
[11:35] <bjwebb> ive fixed it now
[11:35] <xevious> dick-richardson: oh. it might bt snd-cmi8788.ko
[11:36] <dick-richardson> nothing there, either
[11:39] <xevious> dick-richardson: cd / and try find . -name '*cmi8788*'
[11:39] <xevious> might want to exclude the source directory from the search
[11:40] <xevious> i'm not sure if that's possible
[11:40] <xevious> heh
[11:40] <xevious> not a find expert
[11:40] <dick-richardson> just the .c files in the source directory...indicating that make isn't getting it done
[11:43] <dick-richardson> got the output uploaded to http://abe.midco.net/vauxje/error
[11:46] <xevious> dick-richardson: cc1: error: /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build/include/linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory
[11:47] <xevious> dick-richardson: memalloc.inc:1:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory
[11:47] <xevious> those are you problems
[11:47] <dick-richardson> so...install kernel-source?
[11:47] <xevious> dick-richardson: building drivers probably depends on having a kernel source around. i'm not an expert on this though
[11:48] <xevious> is there anyone here who can shed some additional light on this? i'm sort of just poking around...
[11:55] <dick-richardson> I can't remember the name for the kernel sources :/
[11:57] <xevious> dick-richardson: linux-source
[11:58] <dick-richardson> ha! thank you
[12:05] <bluekb_> I am having trouble getting nvidia drivers to work with ubuntu/kubuntu
[12:05] <bluekb_> I have tried the nvidia-glx package as well as downloading the installer from the nvidia site
[12:06] <bluekb_> But I keep getting a variety of errors (depending on which avenue I pursue)
[12:08] <bluekb_> Right now, I have uninstalled the nvidia packages, and  used the installer from nvidia.com;  When I attempt to start the X server, I get "failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module"
[12:12] <Josie> I've got a pretty easy question for you guys.
[12:13] <Minataku> I'm positive you're lying, but go ahead anyway
[12:13] <Josie> I've got a computer with a 1.2ghz processor and 256mb of ram, will it run Kubuntu reasonably?
[12:13] <Minataku> Hm
[12:13] <Minataku> You MIGHT be the slightest bit cramped
[12:14] <Minataku> It should be usable, but not particularly expedient
[12:14] <Josie> Well, I'm gonna have to use the alternative installation CD.
[12:14] <Josie> But the way I figure it is that it can't possibly be any slower than WinXP on the same hardware.
[12:14] <xevious> Josie: xubuntu would probably feel more responsive. XFCE is much more lightweight
[12:14] <Minataku> It'll probably be a slight bit faster
[12:14] <Minataku> Yeah, xubuntu should be more comfortable
[12:15] <spimort> hi all
[12:15] <xevious> hi there
[12:15] <Josie> xevious: I'm very partial to KDE, it's more of a development test machine, to see how programs run on older (slower) hardware.
[12:15] <Minataku> Hi
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> Josie: you should probably be OK... just turn of ANY effects.
[12:15] <BlueVette> Hello.
[12:15] <Josie> Thank you much for your help, I'll use the alternate install CD and see what happens.
[12:15] <Minataku> It'll be a tad cramped, but usable enough
[12:16] <xevious> Josie: good luck. let us know if you need any assistance
[12:16] <Josie> Yeah. Well, I'm not gonna be playing WOW on it so whatever. maybe some net surfing but nothing mre.
[12:16] <Minataku> I need a ROM image of OBP 2.25 for a SPARCstation 10, but I doubt anyone here has that
[12:16] <Minataku> lol
[12:16] <Josie> Minataku, way to ask for something insanely obscure.
[12:17] <Minataku> Not really that obscure
[12:17] <Minataku> I'm sure I could get it from Sun with a bit of complaining
[12:17] <Josie> Yeah but how many people in this channel will have it? Lol and good luck with Sun.
[12:17] <dick-richardson> no dice :(
[12:17] <Minataku> I need it because my two SS10s have 2.12 and 2.7
[12:17] <Minataku> lol
[12:17] <Minataku> Which are too ancient for HyperSPARCs and Multiprocessor respectively
[12:18] <Josie> Oh yeah, I've yet to test this, but the new Belkin USB 802.11g wifi cards are ralink based so they work on linux right? If not can't I just use ndiswrapper?
[12:18] <xevious> Minataku: ftp://treefern.apana.org.au/pub/sun/bootroms/ss20_v2.25.tar.gz  ? this?
[12:18] <Josie> Minataku: who has a sparc anyways?
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | Jo
[12:18] <ubotu> Jo: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | Josie
[12:18] <ubotu> Josie: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:19] <Josie> Merci.
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> Josie: ndiswrapper doesn't do so well on USB devices
[12:19] <dick-richardson> xevious: here's the errors I'm getting now http://abe.midco.net/vauxje/error
[12:19] <Minataku> xevious: I tried that, the link seems bad
[12:19] <xevious> Minataku: i got that link from here: http://www.sunshack.org/data/bootroms.html
[12:19] <Minataku> Thanks, though
[12:19] <Josie> I'm aware. But then again ndiswrapper doesn't work well with many things.
[12:19] <Minataku> JohanSalim: I have several of them
[12:19] <Minataku> Er... Josie
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> tru true
[12:19] <Minataku> 6 of them, to be exact
[12:20] <Minataku> 4 sun4m, 2 sun4u
[12:20] <Josie> Hahah.
[12:20] <Minataku> And they're all better than a PC
[12:20] <spimort> i have difficulty with my screen ... who can help ,me?
[12:20] <Josie> So why so interested in SPARCS?
[12:20] <Minataku> I'm a collector
[12:20] <Minataku> I've got more machines, actually
[12:20] <Josie> spimort, can you describe the problem?
[12:20] <Minataku> 20 in total
[12:21] <Josie> Minataku: I see. I collect devices with 68k's.
[12:21] <spimort> at the start of kubuntu ... before to login ... i dont have the good resolution
[12:21] <Minataku> I have only two of those
[12:21] <nosrednaekim> spimort: is this installed?
[12:21] <Minataku> A Macintosh Classic running Macintosh System 6.0.8 ( 68000 @ 8MHz )
[12:21] <spimort> what is installed?
[12:21] <xevious> Minataku: did you catch that second link i sent you? to the page, not the tar.gz?
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> spimort: kubuntu
[12:22] <Josie> Minataku: I've been fasciated with them ever since I started learn ASM langauges.
[12:22] <spimort> yes
[12:22] <Minataku> A Macintosh Quadra 650 running A/UX 3.1.1 ( 68040 @ 33MHz )
[12:22] <spimort> it is
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> !offtopic
[12:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:22] <Minataku> xevious: Actually, I've known about that site
[12:22] <Minataku> I knew the first link was broken because I had tried it from there earlier today
[12:22] <Minataku> lol
[12:22] <spimort> can i resolve this problem n kernle mode?
[12:23] <xevious> Minataku: righto. might want to email the admin of that site and see if he can send it to you direct.
[12:23] <clyrrad> Does Kubuntu have a built in client to access a remote Kubuntu desktop?  Or do I need to install a VNC client on this Kubuntu machine?
[12:23] <Josie> My favorite right now is my sega genesis of course. I've got various computers based on them. But a game console is so much easier to show to friends =}
[12:23] <Minataku> Josie: You'd probably like the PDP-11 and VAXen, too
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> spimort: just your login screen?
[12:23] <Josie> Minataku: I'm currently learning ARM asm.
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> clyrrad: the supportis built in, but you have to configure a couple files.
[12:23] <Josie> Minataku: Gearing up for college. I like to be ahead.
[12:23] <Minataku> Since the 68k's ISA was built around the ideas in PDP/VAX, like the highly orthogonal ISA, but let's move this to #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:23] <spimort> my login screen to ... when i login , the resolution is ok ... but before ... no
[12:24] <Minataku> Before nosrednaekim has a fit
[12:24] <Minataku> XD
[12:24] <Josie> XD
[12:24] <clyrrad> nosrednaekim: on the destination machine I have enabled the remote desktop sharing, but now I need to know how to access it from this machine... IE: what do I need to use / do to access the other machine?
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> lol... now I know what Jucato feels like :)
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> spimort: I had that problem once... I don't remember the fix, file a bug .
[12:24] <xevious> where does /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build/include/linux/modversions.h come from? is it a result of having kernel sources installed, or is it something generated at the time of a kernel compile?
[12:24] <spimort> no body know how to resolve this problem?
[12:25] <clyrrad> nosrednaekim: IE: do I use krdc?
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> clyrrad: in the login screen, click the list button, and select remote session
[12:25] <xevious> clyrrad: K Menu -> Internet -> Krdc
[12:25] <clyrrad> xevious: yes I have that open already, but how to connect to the other machine?  Is it just IP_ADDRESS:1 ?
[12:26] <clyrrad> nosrednaekim: which login screen do you refer to?
[12:26] <xevious> clyrrad: just ip address if you're using the standard port
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> clyrrad: KDM..
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> maybe I don't understand..
[12:26] <spimort> nosrednaekim ... do you konw the code to resize screen?
[12:26] <clyrrad> xevious: the connect button is disabled with just the IP address
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> spimort: not if your normal login is fine..
[12:27] <clyrrad> xevious: it only become enabled if I add a :1 to the end
[12:27] <xevious> clyrrad: hold on one second.
[12:27] <clyrrad> k
[12:27] <xevious> clyrrad: it's not like an X screen reference. it's ip:port
[12:27] <spimort> no body know?
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> spimort: i'm pretty sure its a bug...
[12:27] <clyrrad> xevious: oh wait got it working - have to use :0 instead of :1
[12:28] <xevious> wow.
[12:28] <spimort> humm ... no because i try whit a bigger screen and its was ok
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> spimort: you COULD try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:28] <xevious> running krdc and connecting to localhost is cool
[12:28] <spimort> and its will resize my screen?
[12:28] <clyrrad> xevious: well not local host, its another machine on the network
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> spimort: it may... depends.
[12:28] <xevious> i've got a waterfall effect behind my IRC window
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> xevious: compiz?
[12:28] <spimort> depend what?
[12:29] <xevious> clyrrad: i was just testing it. because i run my vnc on port 31337 :D
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> spimort: depends if its a bug or not..
[12:29] <spimort> its not a bug ... im sur
[12:29] <xevious> clyrrad: it is in the ip:port format, by the way. i bet :0 just connects to the default vnc port
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> spimort: ok.. then run that command. and if you have an nvidia card, make sure you sleect the driver "nvidia" for ATI, select "fglrx"
[12:30] <spimort> do you know whre i can find a list of code to use in kernel mode
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> spimort: what?
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> xevious: "IP:0" SEEMS to denote an Xserver running remotely... like "DISPLAY:0"
[12:30] <clyrrad> xevious: well I did not install vnc, I just used whats bult into Kubuntu krdc + krfb
[12:30] <spimort> do you know whre i can find a list of comand that i can use in kernel mode?
[12:31] <xevious> clyrrad: rfb/vnc are the same thing.
[12:31] <clyrrad> xevious: I thougt the :0 is the first screen is it not?
[12:31] <xevious> clyrrad: and actually krfb is a broken implementation.
[12:31] <spimort> like cd or mkdir
[12:31] <BigDaddy> Hey guys, got a real stupid question here. How in the heck do I change my homepage in Konq?
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> spimort: ah! run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:32] <xevious> clyrrad: using krfb, if a you connect with krdc it works a-ok. if you try to use TightVNC or any other vnc client it crashes. i switched to vncserver and now i can connect from systems using krdc or any vnc client
[12:32] <spimort> in kernel or just in konsol?
[12:32] <Linux_Galore> BigDaddy: Settings->onfigure Konqueror
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: go to the page/pages you want loaded by default, and go to "sesions->save viewprofile web browsing"
[12:32] <ardchoille> BigDaddy: You don't. Konq is not a "normal" web browser.. it's also a file manager, so clicking the Home button takes you your home folder.
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> spimort: konsole
[12:32] <spimort> ok
[12:32] <Linux_Galore> BigDaddy: Settings->configure Konqueror
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> Linux_Galore: that only configures the filemanager part..
[12:33] <BigDaddy> Linux_Galore: yeah I got that far
[12:33] <clyrrad> xevious: ah I see, yea, there acutally seems to be a big lag with this
[12:33] <spimort> i said yes or know?
[12:33] <Josie> As for my belkin usb card, Apparently it works well with ndiswrapper and it's possible (though I haven't seen it yet) that it has a kernel module already.
[12:33] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: there is mention of the web browser config there too
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: yeah.. but it doesn't have homepage..
[12:33] <BigDaddy> just no mention of the homepage
[12:33] <xevious> in kde, does printscreen function like it does in windows, generating a screen shot on the clipboard?
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: the solution I said is straight from Jucato..
[12:33] <marvil__> HI
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> xevious: it should start ksnapshot
[12:34] <xevious> because you guys have to see this.
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> hi marvil__
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: which means its probably the easiest, if not only way to do it:)
[12:35] <xevious> ok. krdc to localhost: http://mingus.shacknet.nu/~matt/screenshot.png
[12:36] <Josie> What the ****, dude?
[12:36] <xevious> heheh
[12:36] <Josie> xevious, you get the most f-ed up screen of the day award, congrats.
[12:36] <ardchoille> It's not a bug, it's a feature, lol
[12:36] <xevious> rock on!
[12:37] <Linux_Galore> Depends, in Gutsy Konqueror isnt the default file browser anymore
[12:37] <Josie> ardchoille: lol
[12:37] <xevious> i think i can top it. hold on
[12:37] <Josie> Lol
[12:37] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: I am not seeing this Sessions menu. Where is it located
[12:37] <coreymon77> dolfin is
[12:37] <Linux_Galore> I disabled Dolphin for Konqueror due to stability issues
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> lol
[12:38] <Josie> Being as I'm technically "borrowing" internet atm.
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: whoops :).. "settings"