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[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #152145 in launchpad "Make clear that Launchpad is not just for free software" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/152145
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[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #152222 in launchpad "Horizontal rule doesn't clear floating div on blueprint index page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/152222
[07:47] <jellopowderpuff> /server irc.efnet.info
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[10:44] <danilos> all our servers had gone to sleep, or is the problem on my side?
[10:45] <danilos> apparently, on my side
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[12:09] <wolfger> hello!
[12:09] <wolfger> I've been having problems accessing launchpad this morning. Is the site down?
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[12:21] <Fujitsu> Wasn't the janitor meant to be turned off!?
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[12:25] <Fujitsu> wolfger: Various people seem to have been having issues contacting services in the Canonical datacentre, but others can see it fine.
[12:28] <yeager> seems like launchpad is having a loong coffee break today
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[12:35] <wolfger> seems to be ok now.
[12:37] <SteveA> wolfger: we're looking into the problem with Launchpad
[12:39] <yeager> looks like network issues
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[12:46] <SteveA> yeager: yep.
[12:46] <SteveA> launchpad should work better now
[12:47] <yeager> yepp, it works now
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[12:48] <wolfger> thanks
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[02:26] <Hobbsee> bah.  stupid wiki.
=== Hobbsee is starting to suspect that they dont want random people contributing to help.lp.net
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[03:32] <toxygen> hello
[03:33] <toxygen> can please somebody give me more details about OOPS-651C764 
[03:33] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/651C764
[03:33] <toxygen> wow :)
[03:33] <toxygen> good bot
[03:33] <toxygen> now the l/p info bottie :)
[03:34] <Hobbsee> !weekend
[03:34] <ubotu> It's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.
[03:35] <toxygen> Hobbsee: is there any chance to see what went wrong or should i focus on something else right now?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> if there's a launchpad dev around, possibly.  probably better to ask again on a weekday
[03:36] <toxygen> ok, thank you, appreciated
[03:42] <pochu> toxygen: you can mail the launchpad-users mailing list too.
[03:52] <mwhudson> toxygen: it's a timeout
[03:52] <mwhudson> toxygen: probably the thing to do is try again
[03:53] <mwhudson> (this sometimes helps as postgres probably levered the relevant data into ram when trying to service the request that timeout)
[03:53] <mwhudson> *timed out
=== pochu wonders why so many people enable the -proposed repository...
[04:00] <Hobbsee> pochu: latest crack
[04:02] <pochu> Hobbsee: but I've seen so many people complaining because of a broken subversion in feisty, and they didn't know they had the -proposed repo enabled...
[04:02] <Hobbsee> pochu: if they dont read, then their breakage is their own problem.
[04:02] <Hobbsee> "this is for testing" - it's hard to avoid that.
[04:02] <Hobbsee> s/avoid/ignore/
[04:03] <toxygen> pochu: i prefer realtime communication
[04:03] <pochu> Probably software-properties shouldn't have a checkbox for -proposed, or at least it should warn they aren't meant to be stable
[04:03] <pochu> Hobbsee: well, Software Sources (software-properties-gtk) doesn't have any "This is for testing" info...
[04:04] <Hobbsee> pochu: then people whine about having to touch the sources list.
[04:04] <Hobbsee> pochu: file a bug on it. patches accepted.
[04:04] <Hobbsee> but i'm surprised - didnt think it would be there at all
[04:04] <pochu> Hobbsee: unfortunately it is. /me filles a bug report.
[04:04] <Hobbsee> would probably be better if it was called experimental or something, perhaps.  *shrugs*
=== Daviey suggests the -proposed should be as reliable as universe.. So the same warning stands for universe IMO
[04:05] <pochu> btw, why are we discussing this in #launchpad ? :)
[04:05] <Hobbsee> Daviey: we dont shove stuff into universe, post release.
[04:05] <Daviey> true.
[04:05] <pochu> Daviey: -universe is enabled by default. -proposed isn't.
[04:05] <toxygen> mwhudson: is it timeouting because of db is overloaded currently?
[04:06] <mwhudson> toxygen: it's a known issue with translations (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/30602)
[04:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 30602 in rosetta "Timeout errors in +translate" [High,In progress]   - Assigned to Jeroen T. Vermeulen (jtv)
[04:09] <toxygen> mwhudson: thank you for info
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[04:11] <toxygen> if i may have a question, if there is: "${group} journal" it should be translated as "${group} my_translation" right?
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[04:23] <pochu> Hobbsee: bug 152335
[04:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 152335 in software-properties "Remove -proposed checkbox in Updates, or warn of 'not stable' updates" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/152335
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[04:29] <toxygen> mwhudson: rather nerve-wrecking bug i see
[04:29] <toxygen> that timeout 
[04:30] <mwhudson> toxygen: yes, makes me glad i don't work on translations!
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[04:52] <toxygen> very very irritating
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[05:41] <evarlast> are there any other PPA docs than quickstart? I'm having trouble.
[05:43] <Hobbsee> not many
[05:45] <Hobbsee> depends what you're looking for
[05:48] <evarlast> well, I upload with dput and it says success, but I never see things in my PPA
[05:49] <Hobbsee> are the uploads signed?
[05:49] <Hobbsee> do you ever get email saying that they're accepted?
[05:49] <evarlast> they are signed.
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[05:50] <evarlast> ah!  I guess it took a little time. I do have a rejected email.
[05:50] <evarlast> sorry for waisting your time.
[05:50] <evarlast> wasting*
[05:55] <Hobbsee> no problem
[05:56] <Hobbsee> you didnt upload the tarball itself or osmething?
[05:56] <evarlast> no no.
[05:56] <evarlast> its all good now.
[05:57] <evarlast> for some reason <pkg>source.changes is saying Distribution: unstable
[05:58] <evarlast> I'll have to brush up on my pkging :)
[05:58] <Hobbsee> ah yes :)
[05:58] <Hobbsee> you want it to say the release that you're building for - probably gutsy
[05:58] <evarlast> exactly.
[05:58] <Hobbsee> evarlast: it's listed in debian/control
[05:58] <evarlast> just as Distribution: gutsy ?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> oh, sorry
[05:59] <Hobbsee> debian/changelog
[05:59] <Hobbsee> man, i must be getting tired.
[05:59] <evarlast> oh!
[05:59] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:00] <evarlast> hrm, no way to change that with dch -v ? 
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[06:01] <Hobbsee> dch should usually change it to be whatever your current release is
[06:01] <evarlast> oh, let me try that.
[06:02] <evarlast> indeed.
[06:02] <evarlast> Thank You
[06:05] <Hobbsee> no problem
[06:06] <evarlast> I had dch -v in my todo, but since I wasn't actually changing a version, i didn't run it.  I didnt' realize dh_make defaults to "unstable"
[06:06] <Hobbsee> yeah, it does
[06:06] <Hobbsee> although i think that might be different for gutsy
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[06:10] <evarlast> i'm on gutsy, and dh_make defaulted to "unstable"  could be my old personal dh_make settings or something.
[06:10] <Hobbsee> the patch may not have been accepted
[06:10] <evarlast> ah.
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[06:59] <CyberMatt> Question can i start a launchpad project just so my friend and i can mange configureatin files for our irc network
[07:00] <CyberMatt> also some server management scripts and web apps
[07:00] <Odd_Bloke> CyberMatt: I expect so, but bear in mind that any code put into Launchpad is freely accessible.
[07:01] <CyberMatt> thanks ill ask if he minds the web apps being opensource
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[07:01] <Hobbsee> hiya LaserJock 
[07:02] <CyberMatt> we may not have a choice since we are going to use several opensource apps
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[07:20] <ScottK> I got another batch of janitor bugs overnight (for me), from the mail to Ubuntu mailing lists, I thought automatic bug expiration had been stopped?
[07:33] <evarlast> I hate being so impatient, since I only clicked join this morning, but can anyone help me join  launchpad-beta-testers team?
[07:33] <evarlast> I want to use PPA
[07:34] <Hobbsee> evarlast: i doubt the guy who can will be on this weekend
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[07:34] <evarlast> bummer.
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[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #152397 in malone "Launchpad doesn't know of any distribution packages, but links to +ubuntupkg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/152397
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #152400 in soyuz "accept from +queue UI does not send mail to announcement list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/152400
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[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #152430 in launchpad "subdomain ~user links go to /~user, not http://launchpad.net/~user" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/152430
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[10:39] <admy> hi
[10:39] <admy> my email changed and i can't get a new password for my login at launchpad
[10:39] <admy> where i could get help?
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[10:46] <thumper> admy: you really need a launchpad administrator
[10:46] <thumper> admy: alternatively you could create a new account with the new email address and then merge the accounts
[11:00] <admy> ok, thanks. i'll send them an email.
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[12:02] <AnMaster> 
[12:02] <AnMaster> Invalid name 'auto-api-docs '. Names must start with a letter or number and be lowercase. The characters +, - and . are also allowed after the first character.
[12:02] <AnMaster> um what?
[12:02] <AnMaster> there is no ending space..
[12:03] <AnMaster> now it works without change 
[12:03] <AnMaster> huh
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