[02:37] <kwwii> hrm, I clicked on the keyboard layout in the control center and now my machine is b0rked
[02:37] <kwwii> x comes up but nothing else
[03:01] <HappyCamp> asac, didn't we get moblin-applets into ubunut?  I thought for sure you and I worked on getting that in.  but I don't see it in the gutsy repo???  ToddBrandt  and I are confused.
[03:26] <kwwii> how does one turn off the matchbox-keyboard all together?
[03:34] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> kwwii: people over on #moblin can probably help
[03:34] <kwwii> HappyCamp_ubuntu: thanks, I'll ask there
[03:39] <pwnguin> all i get is a message telling me to update to get flash (i think something important was truncated)
[03:39] <kwwii> pwnguin: screenshots?
[03:40] <pwnguin> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/attachments/20071004/d18c9312/attachment-0001.png
[03:45] <kwwii> pwnguin: don't worry, that does not appear like that for me either
[03:45] <kwwii> :p
[03:46] <pwnguin> ok
[03:51] <pwnguin> apparently flashplugin-nonfree isn't available in lpia or something
[03:52] <kwwii> what you are seeing in that screenshot is not the flashplugin
[03:52] <kwwii> that is the html interface
[03:53] <kwwii> which should come up by default
[03:53] <kwwii> but the theme set is not the correct version
[03:53] <kwwii> that might have been fixed by now
[03:53] <kwwii> not sure
[05:07] <Ward1983> i would like to know if its possible to seperately install parts of ubuntu-mobile, trough from within a (not ubuntu, jsut debian) debian system
[05:08] <Ward1983> or as source, that would maybe even be better
[05:09] <Ward1983> i mean this the way like you can for isntance install ubuntu-studio from a regular ubuntu, or the ubuntu studio look
[11:13] <asac> HappyCamp: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/moblin-applets/0.7 ... failed to build everywhere but on i386
[11:14] <asac> HappyCamp: ToddBrandt should have received the build failure notifications
[02:48] <KenSentMe> Hi, the UME project is only aimed at UMPC-like devices, not mobile phones, right?
[03:08] <Ward1983> i would like to know if its possible to install parts of ubuntu-mobile on a regular debian system
[03:11] <Ward1983> KenSentMe, from what i've read that should be correct at the moment
[03:12] <KenSentMe> Ward1983, ok, so openmoko would be the best idea if i wanted a mobile phone that runs on open source software?
[03:13] <Ward1983> KenSentMe, there are also other options
[03:15] <Ward1983> i know there's the familiar project, which runs on a lot of pda's, so it probably runs on some phone/pda combo's
[03:15] <Ward1983> and there's also the greenphone
[03:15] <Ward1983> ( http://trolltech.com/products/qtopia/greenphone )
[03:16] <Ward1983> all i can say is, research before you buy, try to find out as much as possible about all your options, and the pros and cons of each
[03:17] <KenSentMe> Ah, thanks.I sure will. My Nokia E61 runs fine for now, but i am considering my options when it stops running
[03:18] <Ward1983> KenSentMe, i foudn a very intersting page for you
[03:18] <Ward1983> http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9423084269.html
[03:23] <Ward1983> KenSentMe, i'm looking for a decent pda and i also had interest in the neo 1973, i went to ask in the openmoko channel if the software would be ready around newyear, and someone replied probably not
[03:27] <KenSentMe> Ward1983, i'm in the openmoko channel now and asked the same question, but the answers are still vague
[03:28] <Ward1983> the one that answered me said he was not 100% sure because its possible that they get extra funding or developers
[03:29] <KenSentMe> I also found out that umts/3g won't be supported yet
[03:29] <KenSentMe> That is something i don't want to miss anymore
[03:30] <Ward1983> costs so much money
[03:30] <Ward1983> 25eur/month with a 1GB datalimit
[03:30] <Ward1983> (at least over here in Belgium)
[03:32] <KenSentMe> Ward1983, in holland i pay 10/m for fair use policy (e.g. 50mb). It's enough to do some surfing and email while i'm on the road
[03:32] <Ward1983> KenSentMe, do you have roaming? lol
[03:33] <Ward1983> would be cool
[03:33] <Ward1983> (then it also works in belgium)
[03:34] <Ward1983> hmmm maybe i'll try it out, there's a laptop here from a collegue of my dad who quit
[03:34] <Ward1983> and there's a 3g card with it
[03:34] <Ward1983> with a KPN SIM in it
[03:34] <Ward1983> lol
[03:34] <Ward1983> (they are building a large project in holland so they needed internet in holland)
[03:35] <KenSentMe> Ward1983, it's for my nokia phone, but it gets costly when i cross the border
[03:59] <Ward1983> KenSentMe, so i better not try it :p
[03:59] <Ward1983> is it possible to install parts of ubuntu-mobile on a regular debian system?
[05:34] <Ward1983> so nobody knows this? :-s