JacKnifeok, running mythfilldatabase --sourceid 6 --refresh-today01:21
JacKnifewe'll see what that gets me01:21
JacKnifeis this right: 2007-10-12 19:21:22.076 sourceid 6 has lineup type: Cable01:23
JacKnifeeven though its Antenna01:23
solarbabyIm finally begining to go a little insane trying to get mythbuntu setup01:23
solarbabyI need a real walkthrough or something01:23
superm1JacKnife, i'm not sure, i've never paid that much attention to my mythfilldatabase instances01:24
superm1solarbaby, what kind of problems are you having?01:24
JacKnifewell, like i said its just not getting any info, so i'm trying to find out where its going wrong01:24
solarbabymy hauppauge wintv 350 will not display in Live TV, and my Schedules Program guide isn't showing up even though it sez its downloading it01:25
superm1solarbaby, perhaps you want to double check all your settings in mythtv-setup01:25
solarbabymy xbox xbmcmythtv.py script wont connect to mysql01:25
superm1and compare to that01:25
solarbabyThanks thats probably what I've been needing01:25
tgm4883_laptophow did i spell that wrong01:26
solarbabyHiya tgm01:26
tgm4883_laptopsolarbaby !!!01:26
superm1tgm4883_laptop, your still typing names01:26
superm1instead of tab completing01:26
tgm4883_laptophave you seen the new release01:26
solarbabyI believe I have the newest release01:27
superm1solarbaby, newest came out today :)01:27
tgm4883_laptopall you need to do is apt-get upgrade to the newest01:28
tgm4883_laptopbut it would be super great01:28
JacKnifesuperm1: I think i'm going to try the guys suggestion at the bottom of this thread: http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30101:28
tgm4883_laptopif you could01:28
JacKnifethanks for your help01:28
mythbotWhy haven't you dugg it?  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Candidate_2  Once you digg it.  Then comment it :)01:28
tgm4883_laptopwe are so getting screwed in the Hot in Linux/Unix top 1001:32
solarbabyOk I got the TV tuner to work.. reddownloading schedules.. it would appear that I skipped the Input Connection page01:38
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solarbabygood thing I made some progress just when I did.. I was tempted to download and try to get Mythdora working for me.. since my patience was wearing so thin..  I fell asleep in my computer chair last night configuring myth01:40
superm1and its always the easy things like this that get you :)01:41
solarbabyis anyone here using the xbmcmyth.py script on the black xbox?01:41
solarbabyyeah..  I've installed Myth a few different ways now..  mythbuntu seems like the best so far01:42
superm1i'm not personally, but you should be able to just enable the mysql service in m-c-c01:42
superm1and then go from there01:42
solarbabyI did enable the service .. so im good with that..  as soon as the channel linup is done downloading again, im gunna give it a try..  I've never been sucessful at connecting to the mysql database yet from another machine though.. so I feel like there will be problems again01:43
superm1you used the info in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt on the other machine?01:44
solarbabyYeah.. I wrote down the password at setup..  I will verify it right now.. good thinking01:44
MythbuntuGuest59superm1, ty btw. I had actually seen that thread you posted to me before and navigated to that folder looking for the cx88xx file (I thought it didn't apply to me because I thought I needed to edit and not create that file) - I did get it working and ty for your help!01:44
superm1MythbuntuGuest59, can you do us a favor then?01:45
superm1and document this in the mythbuntu section01:45
superm1on the forums01:45
MythbuntuGuest59sure can01:45
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tgm4883_laptopTari, whats up?01:49
tgm4883_laptopdigg it....into shape....shape it up......it's not too late......to digg it....digg it good.   da da da da da you must digg it02:06
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tazgodxwow, your insane today tgm02:09
solarbabysuperm1: im still having mysql database connections from the remote computer02:09
solarbabysuperm1: any documents you know to follow on this one?02:10
superm1solarbaby, well for starters, make sure it really is listening on the right port02:12
superm1you can use netstat to double check02:12
superm1netstat -ant02:13
superm1you should see something like
solarbabytcp        0      0  *               LISTEN02:13
superm1okay so its listening fine02:14
superm1well try connecting using the info listed in your /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt02:16
superm1mysql -u mythtv -p02:16
superm1will try to connect to the local box02:16
solarbabyin mysql.txt should I change localhost to the ip address of this server?02:19
superm1it doesnt need to be changed there02:20
superm1in mythtv-setup you may need to change that02:20
superm1to your local ip address02:20
solarbabyyeah I did that for master server and mythtv02:22
solarbabyshrug.. im so lost.02:22
solarbabyat least it works locally.. but hehe the whole point was to get this working with my 2 xbox's02:22
superm1well do you have another computer you can connect from?02:23
superm1or at least boot the live disk?02:23
solarbabysure do02:23
solarbabythats a great idea02:23
superm1you can test it from there to rule out a problem with the xbox script02:23
solarbabyyeah totally..  I like the way you think02:23
superm1the live frontend has a little "Test Mysql" button02:23
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pdragonsuperm1: dist-upgrade to RC seems to have gone fine. anything you need looked at?02:33
superm1pdragon, not in particular.  mostly bug fixes.  if you catch anything though, please report i02:34
pdragonwill do02:34
solarbabyok the live cd works is a frontend.. so thats good news02:35
solarbabynow I know its something with the xbox script02:35
tgm4883when was the last time the xbox script was updated?02:35
solarbabyit seemed kinda recent as I remember not older then a month I suspect02:36
MythbuntuGuest59done and done with the tutorial - ty for the help superm1, can't wait to get my video card in now so I get decent framerates!02:36
superm1thanks a lot MythbuntuGuest59 :)02:37
superm1at some point during the next cycle, if you can test sooner, we can see if we can include a workaround for your card02:38
superm1like a "choose" cards option02:38
superm1that enables workarounds02:38
superm1if its still necessary02:38
solarbabysuperm1: im using the most recent mythbuntu install, is this a requirement problem? MythTV backend running on a PC (0.18.1+)02:43
solarbabythe xbox script sez it wants to run with backend 0.18.1+02:43
superm1solarbaby, beats me - i have no idea what it can be : my guess would be it needs to be configured differently for mythtv 0.20.202:44
solarbabyoh yeah there is a big difference in versions there02:45
solarbabyI exist to use this script02:45
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solarbabysuperm1: this looks promisng02:47
tgm4883mindframe-, Hi!!!02:52
tgm4883whats up?02:53
therethinkerYes, you can say "$diggit"02:55
mythbotWhy haven't you dugg it?  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Candidate_2  Once you digg it.  Then comment it :)02:55
tgm4883mindframe-, ^^^02:55
therethinkerI wonder if the pipe works yet...02:56
therethinker$mcc | therethinker02:56
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "mcc", sorry.02:56
therethinkermindframe, ignore me ;-)02:56
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "mcc", sorry.02:57
mythbotMythbuntu Control Centre - a admin panel for MythTV - Created and maintained by the mythbuntu team. http://www.mythbuntu.org/about02:57
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therethinker(Don't worry guys, I'm leaving it alone after this)02:58
therethinkerYeah, I'll stop02:58
mythbottherethinker, you need to diggit02:58
therethinker$therethinker get mythbot pipes working, change daily action by tomorrow, add + todo functionality02:59
mythbotI'll tell therethinker to get mythbot pipes working, change daily action by tomorrow, add + todo functionality02:59
therethinker(I'm done)02:59
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therethinkerHello gib03:03
therethinkerWhat brings you to #ubuntu-mythtv?03:04
gibI'm still pulling my hair out trying to figure out why my ptv-305 works with motv and xawtv, but not MythTV.03:04
gibIn fact, once I try to "watch TV" under Myth and get a blank screen, to causes motv and xawtv to not work either until I reboot the system.03:05
gibSo myth is doing something strange.03:05
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tgm4883Hi TgM Laptop03:10
tazgodxhi tgm4883 and tgm4883_laptop03:10
tazgodxironically have the same name, just minus the _laptop03:11
tgm4883_laptopwhat do you think you're doing03:11
tgm4883don't you already kow03:11
tazgodxknow what?03:11
tgm4883_laptopWhats for dinner?03:11
tazgodxi was just thinking about that same dillema03:12
therethinkerI already ate03:13
tgm4883no pizza03:13
tgm4883_laptophot wings?03:14
therethinker...frozen meals?03:14
tgm4883hmmm.... that's an idea03:14
tgm4883_laptopand soup?03:14
therethinkerOh, do you have a can of pizza dough?03:14
tgm4883a can?03:14
tgm4883_laptopthey make pizza dough in a can?03:14
therethinkerLike... pilsbury?03:14
tgm4883I think that qualifies as a tube03:15
therethinkerWait, you 2 are different people? :P03:15
tgm4883_laptopalthough that would be good for breakfast03:15
tgm4883no and yes03:15
therethinkerAh, someones just talking on your laptop?03:15
tgm4883_laptoptgm4883 needs to diggit03:15
tgm4883_laptopI guarentee someone is talking on my laptop03:16
tgm4883_laptopand on my desktop03:16
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therethinkerWhat happened?03:17
tgm4883I don't know03:17
therethinkerhttp://www.instructables.com/tag/?q=Collegiate+Meals&limit%3Atype%3Ainstructable=on&type%3Ainstructable=on&type%3Auser=on&type%3Acomment=on&type%3Agroup=on&type%3AforumTopic=on&sort=none -- see anything good? These are good meals for one...03:18
tazgodxi need someone to cook for me03:18
tazgodxwhile i do nothing03:18
therethinker$daily tgm488303:18
mythbot/me spreads vicious rumors about tgm4883... Oh, BTW, they're marring Mythbuntu next weekend!03:18
therethinkerYou know, to marr?03:19
tazgodxno i don't know03:19
therethinkerI marr, you marr, he marrs... it's a simple word really03:20
therethinkerMarrful, marrily, come on03:20
tazgodxTo inflict damage, especially disfiguring damage, on.03:20
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tazgodxso is your name "the rethinker"? or "there thinker"? or "the reth inker"?03:22
therethinkerActually, Ther ethin ker ;-)03:22
therethinker(the rethinker)03:22
tazgodxmaybe we should rethink this whole bot problem you got here03:24
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therethinkerWhy? what's wrong with it?03:25
tazgodxyour name03:25
tazgodxor did you finally fix it03:25
therethinkerWhat's wrong with what?03:25
therethinkerDo you mean...03:26
mythbottherethinker, you need to get mythbot pipes working, change daily action by tomorrow, add + todo functionality03:26
therethinker$therethinker get mythbot pipes working, change daily action by tomorrow, add + todo functionality03:26
mythbotI'll make sure therethinker knows he needs to get mythbot pipes working, change daily action by tomorrow, add + todo functionality03:26
therethinkerit works now ;-)03:26
tazgodxwell, theres no fun in working code, can you mess it up again?03:27
therethinkerthe only thing not working right now is piping03:27
tazgodxyeah see, i knew there was a problem somewhere03:28
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therethinkerWait, when I did the pipign thing for you, did YOU get a message from the bot?03:30
tazgodxif i told you, that would spoil the fun im having03:32
tazgodxok, no i didn't get one03:34
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solarbabyany chance someone here is using the xbmcmythtv.py script?04:07
therethinkerDon't worry :P04:10
solarbabyI really shouldn'tt worry.. its just I finally was able to make mythtv work!! and thats exciting.. but the whole reason I did it was to use that script on my xbox's04:11
solarbabyI dont see any mention of the maintainers of the script having any irc support..04:11
superm1solarbaby, that reseting the password didn't work?04:13
superm1well setting04:13
superm1it to old_password style04:13
solarbabyI haven't done that yet.. instead I tried grabbing the cvs version of the script.. Im affraid to mess with my database for fear that i will cause myself to have to reinstall the whole deal again04:14
superm1really you should try that04:15
solarbabyI was running Ubuntu and apt-get install mythtv and everytime I messed with the database I had to reinstall my operating system04:15
solarbabyIt must be the answer04:15
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Solar_superm1: this mysql thing is too difficult for me04:45
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Solar_this horribly sucks05:25
Solar_I guess I have to wait helplessly05:25
Solar_at least the ubuntu-mythtv side of things are looking good..05:25
Solar_superm1: what if i reset mythtv to have no password?05:27
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MitoTraninso is everyone enjoying the new release candidate?06:08
MitoTraningood to hear :006:12
MitoTranin:) rahter06:12
MitoTraninugh... rather06:12
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MythbuntuGuest59hey Solar_ you still around?06:37
Solar_Im Still Here06:37
Solar_still trying to make this work.. but I fear im loosing it06:38
MythbuntuGuest59yeah... and MythTV wants to setup every time you go into front end06:38
MythbuntuGuest59and there's no combination that will work?06:38
MythbuntuGuest59does this sound like you?06:38
MythbuntuGuest59because I had the same problem06:39
Solar_I did have that problem a while ago06:40
Solar_when I'd mess with the database06:40
Solar_it was lame.. you'd have to reinstall06:40
MythbuntuGuest59I had to reinstall too06:40
MythbuntuGuest59I was wondering if that was your problem06:40
MythbuntuGuest59just DON'T TOUCH THE PASSWORD06:41
Solar_I downloaded the mythbuntu cd from a few days ago..  and thats actually pretty easy setup..  the part im having the most difficulty with is a python script im running from my xbox06:41
Solar_this time I copied the database06:41
MythbuntuGuest59oh, so you're the one trying to get it to run on the Xbox06:41
Solar_its horribly frustrating06:41
MythbuntuGuest59well unfortunately you're installing linux on a microsoft product...06:42
Solar_Im praying someone will have some clue how to do it on this channel06:42
MythbuntuGuest59let's just say it requires programming skills and holy water06:42
Solar_actually..  moding the xbox didn't involve installing linux06:42
Solar_theres a python script that the xbox can run just fine.. with out installing linux06:42
MitoTraninSolar_: there's a new cd released today too, mostly bugfixes... if you want to try that one...06:42
Solar_check our xbmcmythtv and sourceforge and you'll see what im up against06:43
MythbuntuGuest59oh, so are you just making that the backend then?06:43
Solar_I may have just shafted my database again, so I might as well get the newest thing06:43
Solar_the xbox becomes a frontend06:43
MythbuntuGuest59really? that's nice!06:43
MythbuntuGuest59are we talking original Xbox or 36006:44
Solar_its awesome if i ever get it to work.. I have 2 xbox's and thats enough to cover my house06:44
Solar_im talking black xbox06:44
MythbuntuGuest59wow... is it fast enough to handle it06:44
MythbuntuGuest59well... I guess it would be06:44
Solar_sure it is06:44
MythbuntuGuest59yeah... i guess it is a 700mhz pentium or something like that06:45
MythbuntuGuest59if you do get it running, you NEED to post the results to the forum and at least a brief how06:45
Solar_turns out I didn't mess up my database this time.. I guess the copy worked..06:45
Solar_but now that you guys have a new version.. I dunno what to do.. wait for the people that made this script to make it with the new version or the current version06:46
Solar_Yeah no doubt.. i'd be happy too..  I just signed up for an account at sourceforge so that I can talk to the guys that made it..  but they might be too technical for little ole me06:47
Solar_Oh I did shaft the database06:48
MythbuntuGuest59I'm not incredebly adept at the linux interface and sometimes it does seem you're held at distance... it wasn't too bad here though06:48
Solar_I guess copying it the way I did made no difference06:48
Solar_after using GBPVR for 2 years, I really dont want to use it anymore06:48
Solar_I want Myth06:48
MythbuntuGuest59yeah, but hooray for betas06:49
Solar_and now that im setup with the xbox's as my frontends.. I need to make them work with whatever I can06:49
bendaileySolar_:  have you tried: http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu ?06:51
MythbuntuGuest59that may be a much easier way to go Solar_06:53
bendaileyif it works then just add the mythbuntu repos :)06:54
MythbuntuGuest59it's a live CD though, so wouldn't he have to compile a disk with myth on it though.06:54
MitoTraninthe livecd can be installed to the hard drive06:55
MitoTraninmythbuntu is a livecd....06:55
MythbuntuGuest59you're right, I see that now06:55
MitoTraninbut normal use includes being installed to the hard drive..06:55
Solar_would I have to install linux to my xbox?06:55
Solar_sorry still reading06:56
MythbuntuGuest59oh, that's true... you probably don't want that06:56
MythbuntuGuest59yeah, you would06:56
MitoTraninyou'd install xUbuntu to the xbox, and then install the mythbuntu repos06:56
Solar_as long as I dont have to sacrafice XBMC and all my games for this06:56
MitoTraninif you don't want to install linux to the xbox, then you can just run the mythbuntu livecd on the xbox without installing it to the hard drive06:57
MitoTraninthe livecd can be ran as a frontend easily06:57
Solar_I wouldmint mind installing it to the hard drive so long as I still have an option to boot up normal too06:57
MitoTraninit should work...06:57
Solar_that might be way nicer then the script I wanted to run..06:58
MitoTraninthough I'm not sure how well the xbox would work with grub etc06:58
MythbuntuGuest59I'm sure you could install a grub loader to handle that... I'm just not familiar with the OS that Xbox runs06:58
MythbuntuGuest59try using the live cd-frontend first06:58
Solar_yeah totally06:58
MitoTraninthe mythbuntu installer includes the option to have grub setup for dual-boot06:58
Solar_btw Thanks for pointing this out06:58
Solar_you might have found the gold mind right here06:59
Solar_or is it mine06:59
MythbuntuGuest59mine <-06:59
Solar_fuck I can't think after 15 hours of trying to make shit work06:59
MythbuntuGuest59I know how you feel man06:59
MythbuntuGuest59I spent 9 hours trying to get a linux router working one day and no matter what I did I couldn't get it to pull an IP from my DHCP server...07:00
MythbuntuGuest59turns out I had eth0 and eth1 reversed...07:00
MythbuntuGuest59so the solution was flipping the cords in the back07:00
MythbuntuGuest59so been there... done that :-)07:01
Solar_I remember someone asked me to program ipchains with out a gui07:01
Solar_it was horrible07:01
Solar_way back in my old linux days.. back when nobody really knew anything07:01
Solar_only prob is I left linux for years and now I came back to play with all the new exciting projects07:01
Solar_first device that brought me back was $80 nslu2 which I bought as a file server for my xbox07:02
MythbuntuGuest59yeah... I'm kind of the same way07:02
Solar_I flashed the firmware and took linksys software off there and put linux on07:02
MythbuntuGuest59I knew my way around what... slackware 3?07:02
Solar_and the second project which is now.. I formated my windows GBPVR system and put your distro on it07:02
Solar_I was always Redhat07:03
Solar_way back in the begining07:03
MythbuntuGuest59I used that 2nd most, but my heart was with slack07:03
Solar_they pissed me off soooooo much about 5 years ago that I've never gone back to them07:03
Solar_maybe a little longer then 5 years ago.. shrug07:03
MythbuntuGuest59why's that07:03
Solar_they changed things on me.. and stopped offering support07:04
Solar_I was really ticked07:04
MythbuntuGuest59yeah... I do remember that now07:04
Solar_they only wanted to support their business addition07:04
Solar_so I said screw them and screw linux for now07:04
Solar_Ubuntu looks great..  I really like it07:05
MythbuntuGuest59oh, I completely agree07:05
MythbuntuGuest59the install is amazing07:05
MythbuntuGuest59place the disk in and hit start07:05
Solar_or check it out with out installing07:05
Solar_thats really smart07:06
MythbuntuGuest59and when it is installing, you have a FULLY FUNCTIONAL MACHINE07:06
Solar_Im gunna format my laptop and put ubuntu on07:06
MythbuntuGuest59I don't thin any other OS can claim that07:06
Solar_you could be checking out kiddy porn while installing your desktop07:06
MythbuntuGuest59hell yeah...07:07
MythbuntuGuest59I mean07:07
MythbuntuGuest59backing up the subject a bit07:07
MythbuntuGuest59aloing the lines of fun projects / ipchains / routers...07:07
MythbuntuGuest59have you seen the upside-down router project07:07
Solar_not yet07:08
MythbuntuGuest59this is probably the funiest use of a linux router ever07:08
Solar_is that the one that will change what they  view on the internet around?07:09
Solar_like even re-write jpegs and stuff?07:09
MythbuntuGuest59it changes the images07:09
Solar_I remember that.. thats awesome!07:09
MythbuntuGuest59I know!07:09
Solar_I wanna hit a network that has that installed07:09
MythbuntuGuest59as soon as I get wireless going around here I'm doing exactly that07:10
MythbuntuGuest59I'm in an apartment so I would much enjoy f--king with my neighbors07:10
Solar_hell yeah..  im pretty far away.. I'd totally see someone having to pull up in front of my house and try to get on, like I noticed this evening07:10
MythbuntuGuest59did you really?!07:11
Solar_well I didn't see the glow of the screen but they were in a mini van07:11
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Solar_Im encrypted and I wasn't downloading so I wasn't too worried07:11
MythbuntuGuest59ahh, ok07:11
Solar_we all have the legal right to carry arms around here..  and its not worth killing someone over07:11
MythbuntuGuest59very true07:12
MythbuntuGuest59I just think it's kind of ballsy nowadays07:12
MythbuntuGuest59it used to be no big deal07:12
Solar_yeah it is07:12
MythbuntuGuest59heck, I used to go storm chaseing a while back and we wouldn't bother with an aircard or anything07:12
MythbuntuGuest59they were way to expensive then07:13
Solar_I use 128bit encryption on my linksys.. I know its nothign special.. but then again..  most people in their mini vans aint gunna crack it that quickly07:13
MythbuntuGuest59we'd just roll around a small town refreshing the network list till we got a connection, the run back to look at radar and upper level winds07:13
Solar_I might put up a second hardware firewall one day07:14
Solar_I do have 2 linksys routers so far07:14
MythbuntuGuest59do you have 2 connections?07:14
Solar_actually 3.. lost the power plug to 1 of em07:14
Solar_no.. just 107:14
Solar_I use the second wireless linksys with wrt installed.. and it became a wireless bridge for my xbox07:15
Solar_and nslu07:15
MythbuntuGuest59it shouldn't make a difference at all then by putting up another hardware firewall07:15
MythbuntuGuest59very nice07:15
Solar_linksys routers make very good wireless bridges07:15
Solar_very fast07:15
MythbuntuGuest59I'll have to remember that07:16
Solar_its still cheaper then buying a game adapter07:16
MythbuntuGuest59actual bridges that are advertized as bridges are expensive07:16
MythbuntuGuest59yeah... exactly07:16
Solar_and you get 4 plugs07:16
Solar_yeah..  wrt is amazing software.. and its free07:17
Solar_it just works ;)07:17
MythbuntuGuest59well I'm out, good luck getting your xbox frontend up07:20
Solar_Thanks for this new info my friend07:20
Solar_I might just end up using it07:20
Solar_hope to seeya next time07:20
MythbuntuGuest59that was actually mostly MitoTanin, but I'll take the credit :-)07:21
MythbuntuGuest59ttyl man07:21
Solar_right on07:21
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gibWell, I got the software channel to work on my hard, but not the Hardware MPEG2 channel.  I need it cause it's on a slow computer.  Anyway, in the meantime, how do you set MythTV to not record as it plays live TV so you can go back, and just play it strait.  It takes up too much cpu time on my computer without hardware MPEG207:24
MitoTraningib: you can't07:24
gibAre you sure?  Why not?  I have enough cpu power to record OR watch, but it's a bit too slow to do both at the same time.07:25
MitoTraninit's impossible to watch straight live TV, there has to be a buffer07:26
MitoTranineven then, what you want wouldn't do any good, because your cpu would still have to encode it to mpeg2 in order to play it... live or recorded, it still has to encode it07:27
MitoTraninsome older versions of mythtv allowed you to watch livetv without saving it as a recording07:27
gibIt works OK with motv and xawtv07:28
MitoTraninbut it still had to "record" and playback with a 2-second or so buffer07:28
gibAll would be fine if I could get the damn /dev/video1 hardware MPEG2 channel to work :(07:28
MitoTraninthat link is the best I can give you as far as instructions on how to get it working07:29
MitoTraninif he can get it to work on a celeron 366 system, then you can get it to work on whatever you are running07:29
Solar_MitoTranin: are you using this xbox linux software?07:29
MitoTraninSolar_: never owned an xbox in my life07:30
MitoTranindon't intend to either07:30
MitoTraninI do my gaming on pc07:30
Solar_MitoTranin: heeh.. you just got the good info07:30
MitoTranin:) works too :)07:30
Solar_MitoTranin: im seriously considering running this.. it looks good07:31
Solar_MitoTranin: there are a few choices to figure out first07:31
gibI'll check it out.  I'm using a 1gz via C3 Nehemiah because it only draws about 5 Watts, so it's really green.07:31
MitoTraninI don't see why not... all you need is a backend to do the recording etc, other than that, the xbox should work great as a frontend07:31
MitoTraningib: my cousin is using one of those and it works fine07:31
Solar_MitoTranin: yeah.. now that I read that this shouldn't interfear with me running my games or xbmc im more satisfied07:32
giband doesn't require a fan on the heat sync after I put a big copper sync on it, so it's quiet07:32
Solar_I'd like to see a youtube video of this in action though ;)07:32
gibThe guy who wrote the underpowered pc page is using a card with hardware encoding.  I'd be fine too if I could get it to work, but I think the firmware it is loading is not quite an exact match.  That's the only thing I can think of.07:38
gibUnder software Encoders, what it the "default" setting anyway?07:39
gibOptions are Default, Live TV, High Quality, Low quality.07:40
gibbut it doesn't say which one default uses if you don't choose explicitly.07:41
gibForget it, I misunderstood how it works.  You can go deeper into each one and set them.07:50
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clarkeyhi im having a problem with vnc viewer when I try to connect to it on my mythbuntu machine it asks for a password I enter the password i set up i the mythbuntu control center but it says Authentication failure and just quits08:16
clarkeyany ideas? maybe the password wasn't set properly08:17
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clarkeyalso I am trying to compile patched drivers for my tv card but it doesn't seem to be working properly, is everything I need included in Mythbuntu or do I need to install another component08:21
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clarkey_sorry battery cut out any Ideas about my problems?08:26
tgm4883_laptopwhat card?08:36
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clarkey_its a Fusion Dual digital 409:09
clarkey_I have had it going in the past just I decided to change over to mythbuntu09:10
clarkey_aha done it09:10
clarkey_it was a matter of installing a couple of new packages09:10
clarkey_including automake and gcc09:11
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hugolpanyone arround?09:14
clarkey_I am but I dont kno if I can help whats ur problem?09:23
hugolpclarkey_:  I installed Ubuntu gutsy rc and installed the mythtv packages09:26
hugolpamazing work by the way, it loads faster and havent got a single isue yet09:26
clarkey_btw im a bit of a newbie09:27
hugolpthe problem is that in both computer I have, I get compiz by default, and when I am watching live tv and try to use alt+tab to move to another application mythtv goes all black (sound still ok) and starts flickering09:27
hugolpI have reported to lauchpad but wonder if mythtbuntu has its own bug report list09:28
clarkey_yea bit out of my depth I would guess that their just incompatible idk really09:28
clarkey_my advice would be to disable effects09:28
clarkey_and see if that helps09:29
hugolpyeah that sure would help09:32
hugolpI want to keep both, and I had Ubuntu feisty with compiz fusion and had no problems so wonder why this is happening09:32
hugolpthanks for the help09:33
clarkey_yea idk as I say just a newbie09:34
clarkey_my only advice would be to post your question here and leave it on for a few hours and come back and see if anyone with any idea has responded thats what I tend to do lol09:35
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hugolpinstalled gutsy RC and mythtv packages and mythvideo is not displaying the videos properly. They work in Totem10:22
MitoTranindo you plan on using the system as a normal desktop as well?10:22
MitoTraninor just for mythtv?10:22
hugolpIm using it as normal desktop as well10:24
hugolpI didnt install mythbuntu but a normal Ubuntu10:24
MitoTraninyeah, well, that was the reason I was asking10:24
hugolpthen I installed the mythtv packages10:24
MitoTraninif you wanted just mythtv, then I was going to suggest mythbuntu10:25
MitoTraninI would still suggest installing the mythbuntu packages10:25
hugolpthe same videos that dont play now play fine in totem and they where playing fine in feisty mythvideo10:25
MitoTraninontop of the normal gutsy10:25
MitoTraninrather than just installing mythtv10:25
hugolpMitoTranin:  but I was informed that mythtv packages where the same either in mythbuntu or in Ubuntu10:25
hugolpand this is a mythvideo isue10:26
MitoTraninthey are...10:26
MitoTraninbut you can install the mythbuntu packages while in the standard gutsy10:26
MitoTraninit doesn't turn your system into a full mythbuntu system, but it does allow mythbuntu to configure things for you10:26
MitoTraninmy point is that mythvideo is probably configured funny/wrong10:27
MitoTraninand installing the mythbuntu packages (yet still leaving it to run as a standard desktop) will give you the auto-config of mythbuntu, but also the functionality of a standard desktop10:27
hugolpMitoTranin:  its not that I can see the recordings10:28
hugolpI had the same configuration in feisty10:28
hugolpI see the list of recordings10:28
hugolpI select one and go into the details10:29
hugolpand when I try to play it it displais some werid static image and the sound plays well10:29
hugolpits some codec isue10:29
hugolpwait, now this is weird10:31
hugolpI had some isues with the gstreamer codecs10:32
hugolpthey needed a reinstall to work fine. I actually was getting the same problem as mythtv a weird green image and fine sound10:32
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hugolpafter reboot the gstreamer codecs where working fine but not mythtv10:32
Solar_So if you want a full desktop is it just better to install your desktop first?10:33
hugolpnow I have rebooted again and tried mythvideo first and they were working fine, but then the gstreamer codecs went back to the green image and fine sound10:33
hugolpit seems like theres a problem with mythtv and gstreamer codecs10:33
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MythbuntuGuest18I would like to know if mythbuntu work as live CD or if I must install to try it. Does anyboydy know this?10:38
hugolpok, after a second reboot everything seems to work fine10:39
hugolpalso, has anybody had any isue with mythtv and compiz together?10:39
hugolp(wonder if mythbuntu uses compiz)10:39
MythbuntuGuest47in the RC is it out-of-the box that you are able to shutdown the pc in the frontend?10:47
MythbuntuGuest47or will it be in the final10:47
MythbuntuGuest47i think this would be nice10:47
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Suggleyhi guys11:03
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hugolpanyone having problems with mythtv and totem?11:51
hugolpin Gutsy RC11:51
lagacan you be more specific?11:55
hugolplaga:  I have installed Ubuntu Gutsy RC and mythtv packages11:55
hugolp(by the way, great work, it loads a lot quicker, tv channel scan doesnt hang, etc..)11:56
hugolpand after I installed the gstreamer codecs to watch videos with totem11:56
hugolpwhen I reboot the computer and I load into mythtv it works fine, live tv and mythvideo11:57
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hugolpbut if I use totem afterwards, then totem doesnt work well (I can hear the audio but I see a greenish image)11:57
hugolpthen if I try to use mythtv again video and live tv wont work (same, I can hear the audio but I see a greenish image)11:58
hugolpif I reboot and load totem first it works fine, but then mythtv wont work, and after using mythtv totem wont work neither11:58
lagatry to use a different video output driver in totem. what VGA hardware do you have?11:58
hugolpso it looks theres some kind of problem between totem/grsreamers codecs and mythtv11:58
hugolplaga:  it happens in my two computers. I have a Nvidia 7100GS in one, and an Nvidia integrated serie 6 in the other11:59
lagano, it#s most likely totem somehow interfering badly eith your video card drivers.11:59
lagamythtv does not care about totem#s codecs12:00
hugolpok, so how do I change my video output driver in totem?12:00
lagaby reading the manual i suppose :)12:00
lagai don't use gnome12:00
hugolpI see12:01
hugolplaga:  great work with the new mythtv packages, they work great12:01
hugolpone thing, I though flash player for mythweb was working, but I see it hasnt been included. Any known reason?12:02
lagahugolp: it only works in trunk.12:04
lagahugolp: but i've heard it's possible to use it with mythstream12:04
laga^ hugolp try this12:06
lagaif it works, please post that info in the mythbuntu forums12:06
lagahave you dugg us already?12:07
hugolplaga:  what does "dugg" mean?12:08
hugolplaga does mythbuntu uses compiz when posible?12:09
laga^^ that's digg :)12:09
lagahugolp: no, it doesn't use compiz. why should it?12:10
hugolplaga:  actually I am using Ubuntu 7.10 RC and installing the mythtv packages12:11
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DiggThishey guys12:12
lagahi DiggThis12:12
DiggThissuperm1: if your here slight prob12:12
DiggThisprop driver shows enabled but not in use why?12:12
lagaDiggThis: have you dugg us? http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Candidate_212:12
lagaDiggThis: in restricted-manager?12:12
DiggThisill do it thx laga lol12:12
DiggThisyes in res manager12:13
DiggThisreconfigure in xorg drivers is not possible apparently12:14
DiggThisagain this $$%%### shits me cause i dont want yet another reinstall12:14
lagacalm down :)12:15
lagai've never really used the proprietary manager.. hum..12:15
lagacan you do anything in there to enable it?12:15
DiggThislol. i guess i hate the fact that there are so many people in the chat room but the same 2 or 3 people always help...12:16
DiggThishow would i try to enable?12:16
lagaok, i've opened restricted-manager.12:16
DiggThisim using kernel 1412:17
lagawhat does it say in the "enabled" column?12:17
DiggThisbut status is not in use12:17
lagahave you restarted your system already? maybe that's needed.12:18
DiggThiscan i manually change status?12:18
lagai have just disabled the restricted nvidia driver in restricted-manager. if this messes up my hand-crafted xorg.conf, i'll12:19
laga$infect restricted-manager12:19
lagabah, where is this stupid bot.12:19
lagaDiggThis: not sure. you can try disabling it and re-enabling it12:20
DiggThisok how?12:20
lagaby double-clicking it and choosing the appropriate options12:21
DiggThiseasier said then done it says that xorg.conf is invalid or not existing...12:22
lagacan you post your xorg.conf on a pastebin?12:23
DiggThiswill do12:23
DiggThisslight prob. file does not exist12:25
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lagaya know, that's pretty unusual12:26
DiggThistell me about it12:26
DiggThisdo i have to reinstall??12:26
lagaare there any backups in /etc/X11/ ?12:27
DiggThisill look12:27
DiggThisok there was a backup i have renamed it and am now restarting12:29
lagalooks like bulletproof X might not be entirely working on your box. come to think of it, it's broken in the beta as far as i know ;)12:30
DiggThiswhat does this mean laga? can i not reinstall the prop driver?12:31
lagaoh. well, bulletproof X is a specification in ubuntu. it's goal is to make sure that X comes up under any circumstances so users are not left with just a command line prompt in case something breaks.12:32
lagaAFAIK, it should also regenerate a xorg.conf but i'm not sure about that12:32
lagaDiggThis: does the backup work?12:32
DiggThistesting it now. do you know if gutsy has updated the ati driver with new release driver?? first12:38
DiggThisshould i go for it you reckon?12:42
lagano clue12:46
lagai try to avoid ati12:46
DiggThisdid not work driver must be crap12:50
DiggThiscan i install from the ati site you reckon?12:50
lagai really have no clue. you should talk to someone in #ubuntu+1 probably or to superm1, he knows about fglrx12:51
lagaas i said, i avoid ATI like the plague unless they release sane drivers12:51
DiggThisthx hopefully superm1 has an answer12:51
lagahe's probably still asleep12:53
DiggThisfair enough im trying to reinstall backup then ill leave it most likely till gutsy final release so the issues can be fixed12:55
lagayou need to tell someone about your issue, too ;)12:57
lagaeg create a bug report12:57
lagabut i'd check with superm1, he's way more knowledgeable than me12:57
DiggThiswhere do i file ubuntu bugs?12:58
lagahttp://launchpad.net/ubuntu/ i'd say12:59
DiggThisthx laga12:59
lagai have no clue why your xorg.conf is gone, though, again, superm1..12:59
DiggThisxorg.conf is back12:59
DiggThisit was deleted somehow01:00
lagahum, ubuntuforums are down for me01:52
lagaso i installed pilot-xfer and get a popup telling me i need to reboot my system after the update. huh.01:55
clarkey_quick question is there a reason why I cant select tv_grab_au for my guide data?02:41
lagait's probably not baseline compliant. what does it say when you run tv_grab_au --capabilities ?02:45
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tafkazhi there. massive problems here with the latest build ! known bugs ?03:01
lagait'd actually be useful if you described what problems you had03:02
lagano need to stay in here03:02
laga$daily clueless people03:02
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lagatafkaz: it'd actually be useful if you described what problems you had03:02
tafkazsorry...xchat preferd to quit ! :-)03:02
tafkazok...well hard to say actually because actually i am rather happy to have it all working again03:03
tafkazi downgraded03:03
tafkazbasicallay it seemed that the indices of the recordings went all crazy03:03
tafkazin live-tv03:03
tafkazso after a short while no picture was shown anymore03:04
tafkazbtw not a mythbuntu installation here, but ubuntu feisty with your (normally splendid) builds03:05
tafkazreproducable there ?03:08
lagawhat did you upgrade to what?03:10
lagadefine "a short while". also, do you have any logs?03:11
tafkazwell every mythpackage installed here (which are barely all of them) is updated with those weekly builds03:11
tafkazi can look it up ...mom03:11
lagaah, the weekly builds03:12
laga^ maybe this issue?03:12
tafkazi will have a look03:12
foxbuntumorning laga03:13
lagahi foxbuntu03:13
tafkazno laga that was different and only occured with the latest build...03:14
foxbuntuperhaps I should say good afternoon to you laga03:14
tafkazmoment please...i try to find yesterdays logs03:14
foxbuntulaga, your about 8 hrs ahead of superm1 and I correct?03:15
lagafoxbuntu: UTC+203:15
laga3pm here03:15
lagawell, 3:1503:15
foxbuntu7 hrs03:16
foxbuntu8:15 here03:16
foxbuntulaga, btw...my upgrade to trunk went quite well03:18
laga"If some guest downloads a previous release, and starts asking03:18
lagaquestions about stuff thats happening and such, and it takes 30 minutes03:18
lagato figure out they are using alpha 1 then I'm going to start hanging out03:18
lagain the -dev forum more than laga."03:18
lagatgm4883_laptop: ^^ rotfl :)03:18
tafkazRecording does not have position map03:18
lagafoxbuntu: that's great to hear :)03:19
foxbuntulaga, yeah...I see you are rolling through the logs03:19
tafkazthat was pretty much the problem...then afterward i i managed to configure it so badly, that really bad things happened03:19
foxbuntuor rather the mailing list03:19
tafkazbut that was all my fault03:19
tafkazPreview Error: Previewer file '/mythtv/recordings/13060_03:20
tafkaz20071012191225.mpg' is not valid.03:20
tafkazMainServer: Failed to make preview image.03:20
tafkazthats about it03:21
tafkaz0.20.20070821-1 was the version03:21
Davieyfoxbuntu: hey, did you fix your mirror?03:22
lagathe logs don't really tell anything03:22
Davieydrupal was still getting in the way03:22
tafkazhm....sorry i thought it heleped03:22
lagatafkaz: are you sure it's not related to the trac  link i posted?03:22
lagatafkaz: not your fault ;)03:22
tafkazit was the normal one03:22
tafkazi will have a look which version runs flawlessly now, and which one was a problem03:23
tafkazmythtv_0.20.2+fixes14581-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_all.deb runs fine03:24
tafkazmythtv_0.20.2+fixes14659-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_all.deb did not03:24
lagatafkaz: can you please file a bug about that against mythbuntu?03:25
lagatherethinker: where is your bot?03:25
lagatafkaz: http://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/03:26
tafkazyes but using which log...03:26
lagatafkaz: just post the most relevant parts of mythbackend.log and maybe the .xsession-errors file in your user's home directory. even if the logs are not too useful, it's good to have a bug report for tracking purposes03:27
lagaeg so we can get to it quicker if someone else has this problem03:27
tafkazi will do my very best03:28
lagacool, thanks a lot :))03:28
tafkazthe least i can do right ?03:29
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lagatafkaz: can you check something for me? are you using opengl vsync? are you using the libmpeg2 video decoder?03:31
tafkaznot sure...03:31
lagai have summoned a list of changes in trac and those might be relevant.03:31
tafkazwhere to find out ?03:31
lagatafkaz: in the playback settings screen03:32
tafkazgive me a minute ok ?03:32
tafkazopengl vsync is used and mpeg2 is "standard"03:34
tafkazho-hum ?03:34
lagajust thinking :)03:34
lagaso, how exactly would livetv behave? can you describe that?03:35
Solar_Finally got my xbox frontend to work with myth03:37
tafkazwell...as i said...i reconfigured it to last version...03:37
tafkazhm...i could reactivate the update.....03:37
tafkazhm.....i only hope.....really hope this time the mysqldump is ok !03:38
tafkazcause yesterday i had to rebuild my whole db....just finished03:38
lagaSolar_: cool03:38
tafkazok....i'll do it for you....03:38
Solar_Yeah im pretty stoked03:38
lagatafkaz: thanks :)03:38
Solar_this frontend that is working isn't a real frontend instead its just a python script that lets me control certain things like scheduling recordings and all the good stuff03:39
Solar_im thinking bout installing linux on there and experimenting with the visually stunning frontend03:39
tafkazok....backed up my data again !03:41
tafkazhere i go !!! :-)03:41
Solar_good luck.. backups are great03:42
tafkazhm....apt-get doesnt find the new builts....03:42
tafkazare the uk and the us mirror different ?03:42
lagathey are probably not synced03:43
lagai dont use the weekly -fixes builds so i dunno ;)03:43
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tafkazuk mirror doesnt find those builts, but now us mirror does03:44
tafkazok 4659 is being installed03:45
therethinkerWhy doesn't something I recorded show up in the manage_recordings?03:47
therethinkerIts in the directory03:47
tafkazok....i will go and see what happened ! cross ya fingers03:49
tafkazok....same problem again....03:50
tafkazno picture at all....i was wrong there...03:50
lagatafkaz: turn off opengl vsync please03:51
tafkaznot even the slightest moment03:51
tafkazok ...moment03:51
therethinkerAh, it just popped up03:51
tafkazlaga, GOTCHA !!!03:52
tafkazworks again03:52
tafkazhope i was of some help03:52
lagatafkaz: thanks, i'll get a bug reported03:52
tafkazok i forget my bug report then !03:52
lagatafkaz: can you file a ver quick one, "eg weekly build version XXX broken if opengl vsync is rboken" so we can track them?03:53
tafkazoh yes i can...what benefits gives opengl vsync anyway03:53
lagatafkaz: ^^03:54
tafkazBug #152324,03:55
therethinkerIs there a way to remove the commercials from the video itself? If I don't want to watch them in mythtv... just in totem03:55
lagatafkaz: can you do me a favor? start mythfrontend in a terminal like this "mythfrontend --verbose playback", *enable* opengl vsync again and try to play something? after that, give the log to me ;)03:55
tafkazok.. moment !03:56
lagatherethinker: you need to mark them in the cut list editor and remove them afterwards. it is possible to remove them automagically, but it's not recommended. commercial flagging is not accurate03:56
therethinkerHm... okay03:56
tafkazWaiting for prebuffer.. 9 LAAAAAuAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAA03:59
tafkazloads of03:59
Solar_time to fiddle with lirc..  I've got a usbuirt and dish network satalite dish.. and I want to make sure it'll turn my channels for recordings03:59
lagatafkaz: pastebin the log please so i can put it in the bug report ;)04:00
tafkazno wait....its not the same thing.... i tried to see it here on my pc upstairs...but i guess that wont help...04:01
tafkazcould be prebuffers because of a lame wireless connection also...04:01
tafkazgive me some instant ! ;-)04:01
tafkazcan i pipe the output to a file ?04:02
tafkazmythfrontend --verbose playback > /txt.txt04:02
tafkazthat would make life a bit easier04:02
lagajust do it? :)04:03
lagaalso, please go to the physical box and use mythfrontend on the display attached to that box04:04
lagado NOT use VNC, X forwarding or the like04:04
tafkazright....have what u need ! ;-904:06
lagais it still broken with opengl vsync and does it still work without opengl vsync?04:07
bendaileylaga: ping04:08
lagabendailey: PONG04:09
bendaileyI saw you over on #mythtv is janneg in there often?04:10
lagayes, quite often04:10
bendaileyok I am testing his ffmpeg sync patch and wanted to give him some feedback04:10
tafkazis this ok ?04:10
lagabendailey: do it then :) there's also a mailing list04:11
lagatafkaz: thanks, great.04:11
tafkaznow i need some help as well :-)04:11
bendaileyyeah I am on the mailing list would that be preffered?04:12
lagabendailey: i think so. mythtv-dev.04:12
tafkazi am struggling with choppy mplayer performance... the videos are on an other machine connected via wireless lan....what would be a good mplayer line to start a video from there ?04:12
tafkazit sometimes actually works pretty fine....but then again sometimes the movie gets out of syng or just hangs04:13
tafkazor is xine the better option...what do you think04:13
Davieytafkaz: i prefer the Internal player04:14
tafkazyeah...taht one worx pretty well04:14
tafkazbut only for mpeg04:14
Davieyerm, and xvid04:14
tafkazi dunno...can i use it for avi as well...04:14
DavieyMKV it aint so hot at, i'll agree04:14
lagatafkaz: um04:14
tafkazi treid some time before and it didnt work04:14
lagatafkaz: are you sure you created that log with -v playback?!04:15
tafkazpretty much yes...04:15
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lagaok, thanks04:15
tafkazits only the log with opengl...04:15
tafkazyou need the lines before too ?04:16
tafkazi switched to opengl somewehere in the middle of the log !04:16
lagano, only opengl.04:17
tafkazmaybe it helps anyway04:17
lagais that the complete log file, including w/o opengl vsync and w/ opengl vsync?04:17
tafkazactually after all these updates i could give the internal player a chance on playing avis again !04:18
tafkazlaga, yes04:18
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Davieytafkaz: I use Internal exclusivley on my frontend04:19
Davieylaga: Are you unwell?04:20
sslashesis there a way to disabled mythtv's internal dpms handling?04:20
Davieysslashes: yes.. how so?04:20
tafkazhuuuuuhhh !04:20
tafkazi submitted a bug !!!04:21
tafkazhope i could help !04:21
sslashesDaviey: "how so?" thats what i'm asking you! =P - I want make sure mythtv never tries to handle screen blanking itself04:21
Davieysslashes: I mean, how so = what end result do you want04:22
sslashesDaviey: mythtv to *never* do *anything* even *remotely* related to dpms04:22
DavieyI can't find the option, but i'm sure there is one04:24
Davieypretty sure04:24
sslashesi.e. - always on, so that the only time the screen blanks is when i press the power button on my remote - which executes a function to screen blank04:24
sslashesheh, yeah - google is letting me down todays, i cannot find any information about it04:24
Davieymyth currently only blanks when you are watching video, that's alright isn't it?04:25
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sslashesDaviey: why would myth blank when watching videos?04:25
Davieyit doesn't..04:25
DavieyErm.. sorry i mistyped04:25
Davieyother way around04:25
sslashesah, no - thats not alright04:26
sslashesmy myth box now does a whole bunch of things that might involve the myth doing nothing04:26
sslashesfor instance, i don't like mythmusic, (nor mythmpd), so i use wmcfg to switch to a different virtual desktop and open sonata (a mpd client) - i also have it switch to another virtual desktop for an alarm program i settup04:27
Davieysslashes: sorry i can't find the option - but i know it can be done, as i've done it04:28
Davieysorry, i can't help more04:28
sslashesheh, np, thanks04:29
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superm1therethinker, what was your problem yesterday?05:11
superm1how'd you solve it05:11
therethinkerI'm not sure how I solved it05:12
therethinkerI repared the DB, and then it was color05:13
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Solar_I have a feeling Im going to be struggling with lirc for quite some time until I get it to the point where it can turn the channels for me on my dish network satalite reciever05:43
Solar_Im sure the Myth Brainiacs are working hard on this one..  its like the only thing myth doesn't do well05:44
tgm4883_laptopdid someone want something from me?06:03
therethinkerI wanted... your braaaiiinnnn!06:04
tgm4883_laptopha, jokes on you.  I don't have one.06:05
tgm4883_laptopwait a minute.  Thats not right06:05
tgm4883_laptopHa, jokes on you.  I don't have one.06:05
tgm4883_laptopmuch better06:05
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therethinkerI want... your gf's brain!06:07
therethinkeror laga's!06:08
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sslasheswhat actually starts mythtv? (ie, where is the script that handles starting mythfrontend)06:54
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carlesoriolwhen i schedulle a program sometimes the channel changes the item (name or desc) and it's not recorded. It's there any option to force the record schedules?07:14
fluttrbywhat do you mean by it changes the item.  The name or description is being changed?  By what?07:18
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carlesorioltgm4883: Actually I've a program that by the eit (air program?) now has disappered at the time slot07:21
tgm4883I don't do much with EIT so I don't know07:22
tgm4883I think Daviey and laga use that though07:22
carlesorioltgm4883: but it's there any way to froce the creation of a recording by time and channel when i select a program?07:23
carlesoriol(of course i can do it by manual schedule but then i've to search the program channel time and duration)07:24
tgm4883when you select a program?  not that I know of, unless there is some EIT thing I don't know about.  Perhaps you can set it to grab the EIT data once, but then not update listings that it already has.  Then it shouldn't change07:24
carlesoriolit updates automatically07:25
tgm4883ok.  I was hoping there was a setting to not update existing channel data07:26
carlesorioltgm4883: it could work. where can i find information about it07:26
tgm4883There may be a setting in mythtv-setup where you setup your guide data07:27
tgm4883or where you link your data to your tuner07:27
carlesoriolI look07:28
carlesorioltgm4883: I cannot find this option in the menus. May be I could query it at sql?07:33
tgm4883like i said, i dont' even know if the option exists07:33
carlesorioltgm4883: thanks anyway07:34
Wy|laptopOkay, this sucks. I now see where my hardware problems lie. :|08:06
Wy|laptopBuying stuff a bit too bleeding edge support-wise again08:06
tgm4883Wy|laptop, how so?08:07
Wy|laptopthe imon LCD requires a custom patch that hasn't been integrated into the main lcdproc core yet.08:08
Wy|laptopditto for their remote control08:08
Wy|laptopBasically, previous VFDs were character based devices, while the LCD is a pixel-based device08:09
Wy|laptopand the imon PAD (remote control) also has the same problem, since instead of a directional keypad it has a analog pressure sensative mouse cursor control08:10
Wy|laptopsee http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Imon08:10
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dwilson805hello!  Has anyone tried using mythbuntu as a front-end under vmware?09:04
tgm4883I don't think it would work09:05
tgm4883at least, not very well09:05
Wy|laptopit's not dependent on overlays or hardware accelleration09:06
tgm4883well what would be the point in doing so?09:06
tgm4883and I think it is09:06
dwilson805I would like to run a myth front-end on my son's win xp computer09:07
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dwilson805oh!  I hadn't heard about that yet!09:07
dwilson805and I hadn't seen a word about it on the mythtv site, either - nor did a google search show that09:08
dwilson805thanks for the information - I'll go check that out!09:08
Wy|laptopfirst hit under 'windows mythtv'09:08
dwilson805I guess I shouldn't have tried "myth frontend win32", then, lol09:10
Wy|laptopHey, think about the poor 64 bit windows users!09:11
dwilson805winmyth doesn't seem well-maintained? (last release Feb 06)?09:13
tgm4883you could alway try cygwin, but im not sure how well that would work09:14
dwilson805when I look at the huge amount of rpms brought into my linux system for myth, I worry about trying to install and compile that many source packages under cygwin - the odds of something not working right keep going up09:15
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dwilson805my backend system runs fedora 7, not ubuntu.  I tried ubuntu first, but something between my hardware and ubuntu didn't play well, but f7 worked instantly when I tried it.  I'd rather have run ubuntu, but went with what worked09:19
dwilson805hmmm I found mythtvplayer, which seems to be under active development.  anyone know anything about it?09:28
Wy|laptopNot sure, the backend protocol hasn't changed that much since 0609:28
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Tari_dwilson805, I've used it (mythtv player), and it works nicely09:31
dwilson805I just downloaded and tried it - worked instantly09:33
dwilson805seems to not skip commercials quite right, though09:34
Tari_my 802.11b is a little too slow to stream correctly, so I don't really know09:34
Wy|laptopHrm, damnit.09:34
Wy|laptopI'm having a really hard time getting scheduling data for my cable channels09:35
dwilson805not using schedules direct?09:35
Wy|laptopmyth defaults to using the atsc numbering scheme and schedulesdirect seems to be using remapped numbers.09:35
tgm4883Wy|laptop, you can remap the channel numbers09:35
Wy|laptoptgm: manually?09:36
tgm4883thats what i did09:36
Wy|laptopor is there an automated way?09:36
tgm4883what channels and what are you grabbing from SD?09:37
dwilson805well thanks for the help everyone :)  have a great day!09:37
Wy|laptoptgm: setting up my HDHomeRun for unencrypted QAM.09:37
Wy|laptopand I'm grabbing from SD the local digital cable signals09:38
tgm4883are you able to just grab the channel lineup from SD rather than scan for channels?09:38
Wy|laptopI tried doing that and it idn't work for digital :(09:39
Wy|laptopfollowing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HDHomeRun atm09:41
tgm4883Unfortunatly I don't think there is a more automated way.  I'm not exactly sure why your channel data isn't being grabbed properly, as it should grab it and stick it on the designated channel09:41
tgm4883you may check with superm1, as maybe there is a key thing im missing (i don't have the HDHomerun09:42
tgm4883do you have your freq set to broadcast or cable?09:43
tgm4883what is the formatting of the channels from SD?09:43
tgm4883ie, is it 10.1, 10, 10_1, 10-1, etc09:44
tgm4883and what is it for the HDHomerun?09:44
Wy|laptop10.1, etc09:44
Wy|laptoper, I mean the HDHomerun is 10.1, etc09:44
Wy|laptopit's 1-999 for SD09:44
tgm4883give me a for instance of a channel's formating on both (same channel)09:45
Wy|laptopfrom SD (webpage) 66 FOODP09:46
Wy|laptopDetected from the HDHomeRun in MythSetup : UNKNOWN101#7 (101#7) (Digital Cable)09:47
Wy|laptopbecause of the name mismatch, the SD data isn't providing schedules09:48
tgm4883and you're getting picture from UNKNOWN101#7?09:48
Wy|laptopin frontend, yes09:48
Wy|laptopdo you think I have to go through each channel and renumber it manually?09:48
tgm4883if you don't mind me asking, who is your cable company?09:48
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tgm4883I do think you're going to have to go though manually09:50
Wy|laptopgeh, my pcHDTV 5500 can't even pick up anything09:50
tgm4883and rename both the channel, channel number, and channel ID09:50
tgm4883last i checked, my 5500 saw those channels, but didn't receive anything on them09:51
Wy|laptop:( pain in the wazoo09:51
tgm4883is this a QAM 256 scan?09:51
Wy|laptopactually, I need to rescan for a sec09:52
tgm4883I agree, it's a pain.  But you should only have to do it once and you can do it in mythweb, which is at least a little nice09:52
tgm4883just remember to save your database backup before major upgrades or reinstalls09:52
tgm4883ideally, you should also set the backup directory to a usb drive or nfs share or something.  That way the nightly backups are safe in case of a HD crash09:54
Wy|laptopHrm, is there a better mounting mechanism for smbfs in ubuntu than fstab?09:54
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tgm4883um, fstab is what mounts everything when you boot up09:55
Wy|laptopyeah, but you don't want to mount smbfs until after the network is up09:55
tgm4883strange, i've not had that problem (I use NFS though)09:55
Wy|laptopyeah, too mixed platforms here. :P smb is the least common denominator :P09:56
tgm4883yep, understand that09:57
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mythbotWelcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.10:01
Wy|laptopIs there a way to display a different channel number than the actual?10:16
tgm4883I just changed the channel number on mine in mythwerb10:29
tgm4883because the channelid is where it gets data from SD10:30
tgm4883I had to do that because my STB and pcHDTV 5500 get some of the same channels, but they have different channel numbers (and names)10:30
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MitoTraninhey guys... what is a good scp program for linux?11:44
MitoTraninI need to transfer some files from a mythbuntu system to my server..11:45
tgm4883uh scp11:45
lagai like yafc for sftp11:45
lagaor maybe konqueror and fish:// if you use kde11:45
MitoTraninwell... I meant a gui11:46
lagarestricted-manager is a great tool. it totally replaced my custom xorg.conf with a generic one instead of actually parsing it and making the necessary adjust...11:46
lagaturning debian into suse with apt-get. ubuntu. get yours today.11:47
Solar_I love Myth11:59
Solar_I love Ubuntu Myth!!11:59
Solar_I Love you all, I love everyone11:59
lagaoh, i thought we'd postponed shipping LSD-25 till final release11:59
Solar_Yum LSD12:00
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SuggleyHi guys - i am just finishing up installing Mythbuntu - but have 1 little problem - tv etc works - i just have no sound - i run a SPDIF cable to an amp - i have had it working in Ubuntu but there arent the same controls that i can see in Mythbuntu (and i dont know what tehy are called to install them - can any1 give me some advice in hte right direction?01:02
tgm4883Suggley, do you know what they are called in Ubuntu?01:03
DaveMorrisSuggley, it's pob muted01:05
DaveMorrisrun alsamixer in a terminal01:05
DaveMorrisuse the arrow keys to go left/right/volume up/voulme/down01:05
DaveMorrism toggles mute01:05
DaveMorrisesc quits01:05
Suggleyok thanx very much - i will check it out i n a few mins wen i can reboot into mythtv :) this thing frukin rocks!01:06
Suggleyi might have a few more questions in the next few days but i got most of it figured - its just some permisions stuff01:06
DaveMorrisbugs from the installer regarding permissions?01:07
Suggleynah somethign about permissions for the web side of things01:07
Suggley.htaccess i think was what i read01:07
Suggleyi still cant get over how clean the interface is - it shits on MCE and Media Portal01:08
Suggleyit just works how it should - i been lookin for something like this for so long but never had the hardware to spare to try linux01:08
DaveMorrisSuggley: write a blog about it :)01:10
DaveMorrisanyway night all, time for you americans to take the torch of 24/7 support01:10
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therethinkerhello tgm4883!01:11
therethinkerAre you you, or your girl?01:11
therethinkerWell... I guess tgm4883's girl...01:11
tgm4883does this answer the question01:12
mythbotWhy haven't you dugg it?  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Candidate_2  Once you digg it.  Then comment it :)01:12
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mythbotWelcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.01:14
MythbuntuGuest14ok. I just installed a new dvd how do i know if it is working01:14
tgm4883uh, watch it?01:14
therethinkerHaha, yeah01:15
MythbuntuGuest14can i just play it from mythubuntu?01:15
MythbuntuGuest14i tried to import a dvd .. ijust says no jobs01:15
tgm4883well can you watch a dvd in myth?01:16
MythbuntuGuest14i know these questions sound dumb.. i am new to linux and i boot straight into mythbuntu01:16
tgm4883forget about importing it first, just see if you can play it first01:16
MythbuntuGuest14i am rebooting01:17
MythbuntuGuest14when i click play dvd. screen goes blank then comes back to menu01:18
tgm4883encrypted dvd problem01:18
tgm4883you need to install some proprietary stuff01:18
mythbotMythbuntu Control Centre - a admin panel for MythTV - Created and maintained by the mythbuntu team. http://www.mythbuntu.org/about01:18

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