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ancient1_aha . but u should assemble and power it up peridically . it help keep it intact01:15
DaBeowulfTNT1 btw.. which one?01:16
ancient1_Creatiive's01:16
DaBeowulf=o01:16
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ancient1_and my 1st HDD, Fireball 1280A 1.2GB , and my next - IBM Deskstar 6.4GB01:16
DaBeowulfUnreal's Creative Shadow renderer would work given you use the right drivers, too...01:16
ancient1_why do u envy me ?01:16
ancient1_hehe , thats history01:17
DaBeowulf^ see the last remark01:17
DaBeowulfUnreal never dies.01:17
ancient1_I believe I still have their drivers01:17
ancient1_but it runs slow01:18
ancient1_I would never forget the first scene in Unreal..01:18
ancient1_absolutly stunning01:18
ancient1_HBUDEE ?01:18
ancient1_HABUDEE01:18
ancient1_lol01:18
ancient1_Pumpernickel,  feel like answering me few Q ?01:19
wbadgeranything interesting in gutsy xubuntu?01:20
ancient1_the monkey ;)01:20
DaBeowulfNew Xfce.. we'll all update next week, eh?01:20
ancient1_gibbon ..01:20
ancient1_they have a page that lists the new stuff01:20
DaBeowulfactually more like in 5 days.01:21
wbadgerDaBeowulf, I don't think there's a new xfce...01:21
ancient1_DaBeowulf,  do u know how to see the boot messages ?01:21
ancient1_new Gnome , OpenOffice something ....01:22
DaBeowulfThere should be a log01:22
DaBeowulfOr boot in textmode01:22
ancient1_last line not understood01:22
DaBeowulfwith sudo telinit (and I forgot the number)01:22
ancient1_should be a command for that01:23
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wbadger!what's new01:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about what's new - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:23
wbadger:(01:23
wbadger!gutsy01:24
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:24
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wbadgernothing looks realyl interesting.. just that backup X stuff01:27
J-_Should I blacklost IPv6?01:27
J-_blacklist even01:27
ancient1_why01:27
DaBeowulfhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe3/Xubuntu Here's what we remember I think.01:28
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ancient1hi , lspci shows no audio device. I have ISA SB1601:52
ancient1what sound system xubuntu uses ?  not alsa me'think01:53
alnoktaalsa01:54
ancient1hmm , alsaconf says command not found01:55
ancient1no audio device :/  its there .. on ISA slot01:56
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J-_how can I find out what soundcard I have?01:58
ancient1settings manager .  or lsmod ?02:00
ancient1or lspci02:00
ancient1but my isa card don't show02:00
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pbxI'm running xubuntu with wmii... sacrilege?03:40
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emdashi have a friend with a core2 duo laptop04:25
emdashwould I use the i386 distribution with this? or is the amd64 compatible04:26
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felicianowill have ship xubuntu??05:23
felicianohey,, when I do xdpyinfo | grep resolution I get 92x92... how can I change it to 96x96??? I try modify Xft.xrdb but still return 92x9205:28
felicianonobody here??05:31
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alnoktawhy we cannot owner of files/folders from thunar's properties dialog?06:30
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portablejimCan someone please assist me in removing items from the menu. (7.04)07:07
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portablejimFound the answer through Google.07:15
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eli`how do i reconfigure xfce4 if it fails after i install it?07:48
eli`dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:48
eli`is how to for regular ubuntu07:48
eli`but i don't know what it is for x07:49
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eli`nevermind it is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:59
eli`but it "whiptails"08:00
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ancient1hi . how do I input kernel command (pci=routeirq) at boot time ?09:16
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needleshey, im using icewm09:17
ancient1hi . how do I input kernel command (pci=routeirq) at boot time ?09:17
needleshow do i look at folders?09:17
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needleslike say, my /home directory09:17
needleswith a file browser09:18
needlesi dont see anywhere for it09:18
ancient1don't ask me .. no idea09:18
TheSheepneedles: Thunar09:20
TheSheepneedles: the file manager is called Thunar09:20
hyper_chTheSheep: he said in icewm09:20
TheSheephyper_ch: icewm is a window manager, not file manager09:21
TheSheep!boot | ancient109:21
ubotuancient1: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto09:21
hyper_chok :)09:21
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needlesTheSheep : i know, but how would i look at files while im on here?09:21
needlessurely its possible09:21
TheSheepneedles: yes, thunar will work on icewm too09:22
needlesah, yes09:22
needlesso it does09:22
needlesthanks09:22
TheSheepneedles: alternatively you can try rox09:22
needlesTheSheep : any difference?09:23
TheSheepneedles: it's a different program09:24
TheSheepneedles: works differently09:24
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TheSheepneedles: personally I think it has very weird menus09:25
needlesTheSheep : icewm?09:25
needlesor thunar09:25
needlesthunar suits me well enough09:25
TheSheepneedles: I was thinking thunar vs rox09:25
needlesrox isnt in the repos09:26
needlesand i dont feel much like hunting it down, but its something to know i guess09:26
TheSheep!info rox09:26
ubotuPackage rox does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:26
needlesi wonder why09:26
TheSheep!info rox-filer09:27
uboturox-filer: A simple graphical file manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 1436 kB, installed size 3992 kB09:27
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TheSheepfull name :)09:27
needlesoh, well there we go09:27
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needleswhy do you guys use xfce vs kde09:30
needlesthis is a server, but i actually use kubuntu09:30
TheSheepneedles: kde is too manual09:32
TheSheepneedles: you need to put too much work into it to make it usable09:33
TheSheepneedles: and it has so many options and controls that you never use09:33
TheSheepneedles: plus, QT is ugly :P09:33
cjae_does anyone know when the new xfce menu editor will be available?09:33
needlesTheSheep : hm, i find it more usable and configurable than xfce09:34
needlesquite the opposite09:34
TheSheepcjae_: I was playing the 4.6 from svn some 1.5 month ago and it wasn't there yet09:34
TheSheepneedles: configurable != usable09:34
cjae_Ok09:34
needlesTheSheep : rox is nice09:34
TheSheepneedles: I need usable without manually configuring everything :)09:35
needlesTheSheep : i get what you mean09:36
TheSheepneedles: changing all fonts in opera takes 45 minutes09:37
Cable86could try fluxbuntu when it's released :-)09:38
needlesTheSheep :i dont think ive ever attempted that09:38
needlesbut im not fond of opera to begin with09:38
needlesCable86 : fluxbuntu looks interesting09:38
TheSheepneedles: well, I have some commercial fonts with good hinting and I'd like to take advantage of them09:38
Cable86opera is fast, but it looks like crap in anything but QT09:39
needlespsst, swiftweasel is the bestest one there is09:39
Cable86needles:  i am interested in checking it out when it's released next week...i probably won't use it full time, but i want to see what it's all about09:39
needlesCable86 : ill be doing the same thing09:40
Cable86i tried swiftweasel for a bit, and didn't notice any dramatic speed difference....so i figured, why bother?09:40
needlesit seemed to work for me09:40
needlesi dont really like opera beause its not open source and im used to firehot keys, so thats the story on that09:40
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TheSheepI wish it was build in in gtk09:41
hyper_chgrab&drag?09:41
TheSheephyper_ch: you scroll by just clicking anywhere outside the text and dragging09:41
hyper_chah, really?09:42
TheSheephyper_ch: you can also do 'flicks' to make it scroll continously09:42
TheSheephyper_ch: it's brilliant if you use a tablet09:42
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Cable86sounds interesting though09:43
cjae_http://pastebin.ca/73501709:43
needlesneedles/#xubuntu wishes he had tablet09:44
hyper_chcjae_: there's more than just the menu.xml09:44
cjae_and if anyone has time http://pastebin.ca/73501609:44
hyper_ch--> you make those things with:     /me wisches he had a tablet09:44
cjae_hyper_ch, ok where09:44
needleshyper_ch : good good09:45
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hyper_chcjae_: I think in the same folder09:45
TheSheepcjae_: .wine usually contains all the windows drives and registry09:45
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cjae_TheSheep, so you think I should not be worried about the files in /opt/ ? and that they are just part of picasa09:47
TheSheepcjae_: it depends on the nature of the spyware you installed, if it's some kind of virus that attached to picasa, there can still be problems when you run picasa. But I think it's unlikely,09:48
needleswhats the easiest way to set up a file server09:48
needlesi saw a samba web config interface somewhere09:48
needlesah, SWAP nevermind09:49
TheSheepneedles: lots of howtos on the forums09:49
TheSheep!samba09:49
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:49
cjae_TheSheep, that's kind of what I figured so just out of curiosity what if one did not have wine installed and installed and only installed picasa would there still be wine entries?09:50
Cable86cjae_:  no, picasa simply contains a version of wine embedded in it09:50
TheSheepcjae_: 'entries'?09:50
cjae_Cable86, oh ok09:51
Cable86so technically google did not port picasa to linux, they simply made it capable of running on linux via wine09:52
Cable86which is unfortunate, but at least they did something i guess09:52
cjae_Cable86, wow lazy09:53
cjae_Cable86, I gues I could look but this is probably the case with google earth as well?09:54
Cable86cjae_:  i believe so, but don't know for sure.  i do know for sure that picasa is this way though09:54
cjae_I guess  not though with google earth cause I would have had wine files from it too when ran locate09:56
Cable86cjae_:  well, wikipedia says that earth uses Qt, so if that's right then earth runs natively09:56
Cable86cjae_:  but picasa definitely uses wine09:56
cjae_If I delete all files under ~/.config/menus/applications-merged  I should be rid of the other folder in my app menu?10:00
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needlessamba can be used for filesharing amongst other linux computers as well, correct?10:05
needlesthis is my first file server10:06
TheSheepneedles: yes, although better use ftp or scp10:06
needleshmm10:06
Cable86isn't nfs used for sharing between linux boxen?10:06
TheSheepneedles: coupled with avahi it gives the same functionality10:06
needlesi have linux/windows machines at my house10:06
cjae_did anyone respond to mu last question, sorry had to log out and back in10:06
hyper_chI use ssh/sftp for sharing10:06
TheSheepCable86: nfs can be used too, although it10:07
TheSheepCable86: it doesn't use per user authentication10:07
needlesheres the story, i have an old box at home with a lonely 12 gig hd that im trying to set up to be access from my main rig in my room10:07
needlesaccessed*10:07
cjae_my menu is seriously screwed up10:07
TheSheepCable86: instead it exports filesystem together with its rights and ownership10:07
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needlesshould i use nfs instead?10:08
needleswould that be easier?10:08
cjae_When I install wine I do not get that nice wine-> wine configuration and subfolder etc...10:08
TheSheepneedles: nfs is especially useful when you want to have something permanently shared10:09
TheSheep!nfs | needles10:09
ubotuneedles: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.10:09
needlesTheSheep : thats somewhat the case10:09
needlesitll just be a universal storage space from the many comps at my house10:09
hyper_chneedles: so sort of want to automount the shared folder there into the other computers or do you want to build up a connection to that one and then transfer files that way?10:12
needlesautomount would be the nicest way10:13
needlesso it would just be like an external drive10:14
TheSheepneedles: then put it in your /etc/fstab10:14
TheSheepneedles: that howto should tell you how10:14
needlesTheSheep : yeah seems to be pretty helpful10:16
needlesTheSheep : and /etc/fstab is where i would but a file to be shared?10:17
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needlesthanks for the help all, ive got it up and running10:46
needlesnfs file server10:46
needlesive got to be off to bed, peace10:46
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CH1P"wired connection" or "ethernet" doesn't appear in administration > network10:47
TheSheepCH1P: does 'ifconfig -a' show it?10:47
CH1Pthesheep: no10:47
TheSheepCH1P: apparently a kernel module for your card is missing10:48
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warblerG'day all. I'm using xubuntu on a headless server with vnc and the first time I open something - thunar or the home folder link for example - they open then close straight away. How can I get around this?11:07
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predaeuswarbler, can you open a terminal?11:15
predaeusah11:15
predaeussorry, I don't know, must be related to the headlessness :-)11:16
warblerpredaeus - everything works ok - just need to open thunar etc twice before they will stay open11:17
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graziewarbler: have you tried launching thunar from a terminal? It may give you a useful error message.11:20
warblergrazie - will try that - but it seems to be every program on first launch opens then closes immediately... wondered if it was usual or my set up?11:22
warblerthunar launchers ok first go from terminal - so maybe it is a X problem with vnc? This is my first go at a server and all works ok except this minor glitch.11:25
graziecan you not test the server with a monitor?11:27
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warblerI spent a couple of days using the server with a monitor, keyboard and mouse when I first set it up - my first go at this so I needed to be sure it worked and it behaved normally - that's why I'm wondering if it is simply a vnc issue.11:31
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warblerhave six computers hooked up to the xubuntu server via nfs and it's all working fine except the need to start  things twice each time a computer first accesses a program on the server...12:03
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predaeusDoes anybody know how to remove a bookmark from the xfce4-places-plugin? I omitted to remove the bookmark from the sidebar in Thunar, removed the actual directory and now I can't get rid of the entry. I just tried restarting the plugin.12:39
predaeusI could not locate the file where that info is stored. "locate places" did not show relevant files.12:40
predaeusHm, probably some gtk lib needs to be restarted to change the state.12:41
predaeusbrb12:41
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predaeusnah, that did not help. Checking bug reports...12:42
predaeusah found the relevant info on the xfce4 page12:45
warblerpredaeus: xfce-places-plugin : - what do you do to access this/12:45
warbler*?12:45
predaeusah, sorry I am on Gutsy Beta, might not be available in Feisty yet.12:46
predaeusok, removed the relevant .gtk-bookmarks entry as a fix.12:46
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junkeRhey, I downloaded and installed 7.10 last night02:59
junkeRwhen I open a music file using totem, it automatically sets itself to "always on top"02:59
junkeRanyway I can disable that?02:59
wbadgerjunkeR, I don't know, but if it's 7.10 related maybe you'll find more help in #ubuntu+103:01
junkeRthank you03:01
nanonymehey, is there some nokia phone bluetooth connectivity program for linux?03:04
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predaeusnanonyme, also ask in #ubuntu03:07
nanonymei will, just didn't want to cross-post before i get at least some answer :)03:08
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UsiuHi03:23
UsiuDoes Xubuntu 7.04 have pidgin ?03:23
Usiuon iso image ?03:23
Usiuplz help03:23
junkeRno it does not03:24
junkeRit comes with GAIM but you can upgrade to pidgin03:24
junkeRyou'll have to add in a new source in the repository list though03:24
junkeR7.10 comes with pidgin by default03:24
Usiuhm..03:26
UsiuI am looking for low memory desktop03:26
UsiuliveCD03:26
Usiuand pidgin03:26
Usiuhow about 7.05?03:26
TheSheepUsiu: livecds are usually memory-hungry03:27
nanonymepredaeus, btw, got an answer. gnokii :)03:27
junkeRUsiu: you should download the 7.10 alternate installer, then install fluxbox or something similar03:28
UsiujunkeR, hm.. howabout xfce?03:28
junkeRXFCE is installed by default on Xubuntu03:28
UsiujunkeR, is there any Ubuntu for low memory hardware ?03:28
Usiuok..03:28
junkeRfluxbuntu is being released very soon03:28
Usiubut is xfce fast on 256ram03:28
TheSheepUsiu: but livecd will eat most of that ram just to run the system03:29
junkeRit's fast on my 512MB03:29
junkeRI used it on 256 as well and it runs very good03:29
junkeRhttp://fluxbuntu.org/03:29
junkeRxubuntu only requires 64MB to run03:29
Usiuhow about fluxubuntu?03:30
nanonymewell, yes. the requirements are always too low though03:30
nanonymethat is, OS's tend to be hardly usable if you only follow the requirements :)03:30
junkeRXP wasn't all that bad on my Thinkpad..  Which had the base requirements03:31
TheSheepjunkeR: livecd requires 192MB03:31
junkeRI was talking about the alternate (text mode) installer though03:32
UsiuWell my gril has 256ram and its shared with graphic card.. she is running winxp and it horribly slooow03:32
Usiuso I want to give her livecd so she can get familiar with it03:32
nanonymejunker, well, usually when you start installing programs you need, the system wants way more memory than the minimum req's03:32
Usiuand install if she likes it03:32
nanonymeheh, livecd won't make justice to xubuntu, really03:33
nanonymelivecd's are very very slow03:33
junkeRUsiu: why not try DamnSmallLinux?  Zenwalk?  UbuntuLite?03:33
junkeRDamnSmall is a liveCD that can also be installed to the hard drive03:34
UsiuOh UbuntuLite ?03:34
UsiuI'll try UbuntuLite03:35
UsiuI hope it has pidgin03:35
junkeRI don't think it does, I've never used it.03:35
Usiuhmm server not found03:35
Usiui guess they stoped working on it03:35
junkeRUsiu: read this http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/03/06/howto-ubuntu-lite-on-feisty/03:36
junkeRI was able to download the package using those instructions03:36
junkeRI have to go though, thank you everyone03:37
nanonymewill probably be partly deprecated in a few days03:37
nanonymesince gutsy is released on 18th03:37
UsiuOk03:38
UsiuI'll wait until 7.10 fluxbuntu03:39
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junkeRhey, I have wireless setup in Xubuntu 7.10.  When I boot up the machine it asks for the password because the wireless wants to access it05:41
junkeRcan I disable that or something similar?05:41
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brobostigonhi, i use ppc feisty, and have realplayer installed, i wanted to watch the snooker from the bbc wbsite and it seems not to work, any ideas why this would happen, it seems to open realplayer within firefox, but not doing anyhing??05:47
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veddanybody have any luck getting compiz-fusion to run on xubuntu?08:40
veddthe built-in compositing in xfce works but i cant seem to get any of the cf features to work08:40
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dokoplease could somebody give me a hint how to configure the standard font size?10:50
wbadger!fonts10:51
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer10:51
wbadgerheh it did show something10:52
wbadgersorry I have no solution for your particular problem10:52
wbadgermaybe10:52
wbadger!font size10:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about font size - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:52
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Pumpernickeldoko: Applications > Settings > User interface settings11:04
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J-_I'm guessing, "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems Cyberblade/il (rev 6a)" is the video card? Can I get video accel going on it?11:16
J-_!acceleration11:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acceleration - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:16
J-_!video11:17
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications11:17
J-_hrm11:17
Pumpernickel!info xserver-xorg-video-trident | J-_11:21
ubotuj-_: xserver-xorg-video-trident: X.Org X server -- Trident display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.3-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 70 kB, installed size 228 kB11:21
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garotosopaDid Xubuntu developers tweak the desktop context menu? I don't see Create Folder, Paste, etc, on the official release.12:31
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MattJHi all, does Gutsy have any power management for laptops?12:44
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MattJor would it need gnome-power-manager?12:44
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vidddoes anyone know how to set the "windows" key to "left-click"?01:11
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