[01:15] <ancient1_> aha . but u should assemble and power it up peridically . it help keep it intact
[01:16] <DaBeowulf> TNT1 btw.. which one?
[01:16] <ancient1_> Creatiive's
[01:16] <DaBeowulf> =o
[01:16] <ancient1_> and my 1st HDD, Fireball 1280A 1.2GB , and my next - IBM Deskstar 6.4GB
[01:16] <DaBeowulf> Unreal's Creative Shadow renderer would work given you use the right drivers, too...
[01:16] <ancient1_> why do u envy me ?
[01:17] <ancient1_> hehe , thats history
[01:17] <DaBeowulf> ^ see the last remark
[01:17] <DaBeowulf> Unreal never dies.
[01:17] <ancient1_> I believe I still have their drivers
[01:18] <ancient1_> but it runs slow
[01:18] <ancient1_> I would never forget the first scene in Unreal..
[01:18] <ancient1_> absolutly stunning
[01:18] <ancient1_> HBUDEE ?
[01:18] <ancient1_> HABUDEE
[01:18] <ancient1_> lol
[01:19] <ancient1_> Pumpernickel,  feel like answering me few Q ?
[01:20] <wbadger> anything interesting in gutsy xubuntu?
[01:20] <ancient1_> the monkey ;)
[01:20] <DaBeowulf> New Xfce.. we'll all update next week, eh?
[01:20] <ancient1_> gibbon ..
[01:20] <ancient1_> they have a page that lists the new stuff
[01:21] <DaBeowulf> actually more like in 5 days.
[01:21] <wbadger> DaBeowulf, I don't think there's a new xfce...
[01:21] <ancient1_> DaBeowulf,  do u know how to see the boot messages ?
[01:22] <ancient1_> new Gnome , OpenOffice something ....
[01:22] <DaBeowulf> There should be a log
[01:22] <DaBeowulf> Or boot in textmode
[01:22] <ancient1_> last line not understood
[01:22] <DaBeowulf> with sudo telinit (and I forgot the number)
[01:23] <ancient1_> should be a command for that
[01:23] <wbadger> !what's new
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what's new - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <wbadger> :(
[01:24] <wbadger> !gutsy
[01:24] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:27] <wbadger> nothing looks realyl interesting.. just that backup X stuff
[01:27] <J-_> Should I blacklost IPv6?
[01:27] <J-_> blacklist even
[01:27] <ancient1_> why
[01:28] <DaBeowulf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe3/Xubuntu Here's what we remember I think.
[01:52] <ancient1> hi , lspci shows no audio device. I have ISA SB16
[01:53] <ancient1> what sound system xubuntu uses ?  not alsa me'think
[01:54] <alnokta> alsa
[01:55] <ancient1> hmm , alsaconf says command not found
[01:56] <ancient1> no audio device :/  its there .. on ISA slot
[01:58] <J-_> how can I find out what soundcard I have?
[02:00] <ancient1> settings manager .  or lsmod ?
[02:00] <ancient1> or lspci
[02:00] <ancient1> but my isa card don't show
[03:40] <pbx> I'm running xubuntu with wmii... sacrilege?
[04:25] <emdash> i have a friend with a core2 duo laptop
[04:26] <emdash> would I use the i386 distribution with this? or is the amd64 compatible
[05:23] <feliciano> will have ship xubuntu??
[05:28] <feliciano> hey,, when I do xdpyinfo | grep resolution I get 92x92... how can I change it to 96x96??? I try modify Xft.xrdb but still return 92x92
[05:31] <feliciano> nobody here??
[06:30] <alnokta> why we cannot owner of files/folders from thunar's properties dialog?
[07:07] <portablejim> Can someone please assist me in removing items from the menu. (7.04)
[07:15] <portablejim> Found the answer through Google.
[07:48] <eli`> how do i reconfigure xfce4 if it fails after i install it?
[07:48] <eli`> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:48] <eli`> is how to for regular ubuntu
[07:49] <eli`> but i don't know what it is for x
[07:59] <eli`> nevermind it is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:00] <eli`> but it "whiptails"
[09:16] <ancient1> hi . how do I input kernel command (pci=routeirq) at boot time ?
[09:17] <needles> hey, im using icewm
[09:17] <ancient1> hi . how do I input kernel command (pci=routeirq) at boot time ?
[09:17] <needles> how do i look at folders?
[09:17] <needles> like say, my /home directory
[09:18] <needles> with a file browser
[09:18] <needles> i dont see anywhere for it
[09:18] <ancient1> don't ask me .. no idea
[09:20] <TheSheep> needles: Thunar
[09:20] <TheSheep> needles: the file manager is called Thunar
[09:20] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: he said in icewm
[09:21] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: icewm is a window manager, not file manager
[09:21] <TheSheep> !boot | ancient1
[09:21] <ubotu> ancient1: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:21] <hyper_ch> ok :)
[09:21] <needles> TheSheep : i know, but how would i look at files while im on here?
[09:21] <needles> surely its possible
[09:22] <TheSheep> needles: yes, thunar will work on icewm too
[09:22] <needles> ah, yes
[09:22] <needles> so it does
[09:22] <needles> thanks
[09:22] <TheSheep> needles: alternatively you can try rox
[09:23] <needles> TheSheep : any difference?
[09:24] <TheSheep> needles: it's a different program
[09:24] <TheSheep> needles: works differently
[09:25] <TheSheep> needles: personally I think it has very weird menus
[09:25] <needles> TheSheep : icewm?
[09:25] <needles> or thunar
[09:25] <needles> thunar suits me well enough
[09:25] <TheSheep> needles: I was thinking thunar vs rox
[09:26] <needles> rox isnt in the repos
[09:26] <needles> and i dont feel much like hunting it down, but its something to know i guess
[09:26] <TheSheep> !info rox
[09:26] <ubotu> Package rox does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:26] <needles> i wonder why
[09:27] <TheSheep> !info rox-filer
[09:27] <ubotu> rox-filer: A simple graphical file manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 1436 kB, installed size 3992 kB
[09:27] <TheSheep> full name :)
[09:27] <needles> oh, well there we go
[09:30] <needles> why do you guys use xfce vs kde
[09:30] <needles> this is a server, but i actually use kubuntu
[09:32] <TheSheep> needles: kde is too manual
[09:33] <TheSheep> needles: you need to put too much work into it to make it usable
[09:33] <TheSheep> needles: and it has so many options and controls that you never use
[09:33] <TheSheep> needles: plus, QT is ugly :P
[09:33] <cjae_> does anyone know when the new xfce menu editor will be available?
[09:34] <needles> TheSheep : hm, i find it more usable and configurable than xfce
[09:34] <needles> quite the opposite
[09:34] <TheSheep> cjae_: I was playing the 4.6 from svn some 1.5 month ago and it wasn't there yet
[09:34] <TheSheep> needles: configurable != usable
[09:34] <cjae_> Ok
[09:34] <needles> TheSheep : rox is nice
[09:35] <TheSheep> needles: I need usable without manually configuring everything :)
[09:36] <needles> TheSheep : i get what you mean
[09:37] <TheSheep> needles: changing all fonts in opera takes 45 minutes
[09:38] <Cable86> could try fluxbuntu when it's released :-)
[09:38] <needles> TheSheep :i dont think ive ever attempted that
[09:38] <needles> but im not fond of opera to begin with
[09:38] <needles> Cable86 : fluxbuntu looks interesting
[09:38] <TheSheep> needles: well, I have some commercial fonts with good hinting and I'd like to take advantage of them
[09:39] <Cable86> opera is fast, but it looks like crap in anything but QT
[09:39] <needles> psst, swiftweasel is the bestest one there is
[09:39] <Cable86> needles:  i am interested in checking it out when it's released next week...i probably won't use it full time, but i want to see what it's all about
[09:40] <needles> Cable86 : ill be doing the same thing
[09:40] <Cable86> i tried swiftweasel for a bit, and didn't notice any dramatic speed difference....so i figured, why bother?
[09:40] <needles> it seemed to work for me
[09:40] <needles> i dont really like opera beause its not open source and im used to firehot keys, so thats the story on that
[09:41] <TheSheep> I wish it was build in in gtk
[09:41] <hyper_ch> grab&drag?
[09:41] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: you scroll by just clicking anywhere outside the text and dragging
[09:42] <hyper_ch> ah, really?
[09:42] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: you can also do 'flicks' to make it scroll continously
[09:42] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: it's brilliant if you use a tablet
[09:43] <Cable86> sounds interesting though
[09:43] <cjae_> http://pastebin.ca/735017
[09:44] <needles> needles/#xubuntu wishes he had tablet
[09:44] <hyper_ch> cjae_: there's more than just the menu.xml
[09:44] <cjae_> and if anyone has time http://pastebin.ca/735016
[09:44] <hyper_ch> --> you make those things with:     /me wisches he had a tablet
[09:44] <cjae_> hyper_ch, ok where
[09:45] <needles> hyper_ch : good good
[09:45] <hyper_ch> cjae_: I think in the same folder
[09:45] <TheSheep> cjae_: .wine usually contains all the windows drives and registry
[09:47] <cjae_> TheSheep, so you think I should not be worried about the files in /opt/ ? and that they are just part of picasa
[09:48] <TheSheep> cjae_: it depends on the nature of the spyware you installed, if it's some kind of virus that attached to picasa, there can still be problems when you run picasa. But I think it's unlikely,
[09:48] <needles> whats the easiest way to set up a file server
[09:48] <needles> i saw a samba web config interface somewhere
[09:49] <needles> ah, SWAP nevermind
[09:49] <TheSheep> needles: lots of howtos on the forums
[09:49] <TheSheep> !samba
[09:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:50] <cjae_> TheSheep, that's kind of what I figured so just out of curiosity what if one did not have wine installed and installed and only installed picasa would there still be wine entries?
[09:50] <Cable86> cjae_:  no, picasa simply contains a version of wine embedded in it
[09:50] <TheSheep> cjae_: 'entries'?
[09:51] <cjae_> Cable86, oh ok
[09:52] <Cable86> so technically google did not port picasa to linux, they simply made it capable of running on linux via wine
[09:52] <Cable86> which is unfortunate, but at least they did something i guess
[09:53] <cjae_> Cable86, wow lazy
[09:54] <cjae_> Cable86, I gues I could look but this is probably the case with google earth as well?
[09:54] <Cable86> cjae_:  i believe so, but don't know for sure.  i do know for sure that picasa is this way though
[09:56] <cjae_> I guess  not though with google earth cause I would have had wine files from it too when ran locate
[09:56] <Cable86> cjae_:  well, wikipedia says that earth uses Qt, so if that's right then earth runs natively
[09:56] <Cable86> cjae_:  but picasa definitely uses wine
[10:00] <cjae_> If I delete all files under ~/.config/menus/applications-merged  I should be rid of the other folder in my app menu?
[10:05] <needles> samba can be used for filesharing amongst other linux computers as well, correct?
[10:06] <needles> this is my first file server
[10:06] <TheSheep> needles: yes, although better use ftp or scp
[10:06] <needles> hmm
[10:06] <Cable86> isn't nfs used for sharing between linux boxen?
[10:06] <TheSheep> needles: coupled with avahi it gives the same functionality
[10:06] <needles> i have linux/windows machines at my house
[10:06] <cjae_> did anyone respond to mu last question, sorry had to log out and back in
[10:06] <hyper_ch> I use ssh/sftp for sharing
[10:07] <TheSheep> Cable86: nfs can be used too, although it
[10:07] <TheSheep> Cable86: it doesn't use per user authentication
[10:07] <needles> heres the story, i have an old box at home with a lonely 12 gig hd that im trying to set up to be access from my main rig in my room
[10:07] <needles> accessed*
[10:07] <cjae_> my menu is seriously screwed up
[10:07] <TheSheep> Cable86: instead it exports filesystem together with its rights and ownership
[10:08] <needles> should i use nfs instead?
[10:08] <needles> would that be easier?
[10:08] <cjae_> When I install wine I do not get that nice wine-> wine configuration and subfolder etc...
[10:09] <TheSheep> needles: nfs is especially useful when you want to have something permanently shared
[10:09] <TheSheep> !nfs | needles
[10:09] <ubotu> needles: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:09] <needles> TheSheep : thats somewhat the case
[10:09] <needles> itll just be a universal storage space from the many comps at my house
[10:12] <hyper_ch> needles: so sort of want to automount the shared folder there into the other computers or do you want to build up a connection to that one and then transfer files that way?
[10:13] <needles> automount would be the nicest way
[10:14] <needles> so it would just be like an external drive
[10:14] <TheSheep> needles: then put it in your /etc/fstab
[10:14] <TheSheep> needles: that howto should tell you how
[10:16] <needles> TheSheep : yeah seems to be pretty helpful
[10:17] <needles> TheSheep : and /etc/fstab is where i would but a file to be shared?
[10:46] <needles> thanks for the help all, ive got it up and running
[10:46] <needles> nfs file server
[10:46] <needles> ive got to be off to bed, peace
[10:47] <CH1P> "wired connection" or "ethernet" doesn't appear in administration > network
[10:47] <TheSheep> CH1P: does 'ifconfig -a' show it?
[10:47] <CH1P> thesheep: no
[10:48] <TheSheep> CH1P: apparently a kernel module for your card is missing
[11:07] <warbler> G'day all. I'm using xubuntu on a headless server with vnc and the first time I open something - thunar or the home folder link for example - they open then close straight away. How can I get around this?
[11:15] <predaeus> warbler, can you open a terminal?
[11:15] <predaeus> ah
[11:16] <predaeus> sorry, I don't know, must be related to the headlessness :-)
[11:17] <warbler> predaeus - everything works ok - just need to open thunar etc twice before they will stay open
[11:20] <grazie> warbler: have you tried launching thunar from a terminal? It may give you a useful error message.
[11:22] <warbler> grazie - will try that - but it seems to be every program on first launch opens then closes immediately... wondered if it was usual or my set up?
[11:25] <warbler> thunar launchers ok first go from terminal - so maybe it is a X problem with vnc? This is my first go at a server and all works ok except this minor glitch.
[11:27] <grazie> can you not test the server with a monitor?
[11:31] <warbler> I spent a couple of days using the server with a monitor, keyboard and mouse when I first set it up - my first go at this so I needed to be sure it worked and it behaved normally - that's why I'm wondering if it is simply a vnc issue.
[12:03] <warbler> have six computers hooked up to the xubuntu server via nfs and it's all working fine except the need to start  things twice each time a computer first accesses a program on the server...
[12:39] <predaeus> Does anybody know how to remove a bookmark from the xfce4-places-plugin? I omitted to remove the bookmark from the sidebar in Thunar, removed the actual directory and now I can't get rid of the entry. I just tried restarting the plugin.
[12:40] <predaeus> I could not locate the file where that info is stored. "locate places" did not show relevant files.
[12:41] <predaeus> Hm, probably some gtk lib needs to be restarted to change the state.
[12:41] <predaeus> brb
[12:42] <predaeus> nah, that did not help. Checking bug reports...
[12:45] <predaeus> ah found the relevant info on the xfce4 page
[12:45] <warbler> predaeus: xfce-places-plugin : - what do you do to access this/
[12:45] <warbler> *?
[12:46] <predaeus> ah, sorry I am on Gutsy Beta, might not be available in Feisty yet.
[12:46] <predaeus> ok, removed the relevant .gtk-bookmarks entry as a fix.
[02:59] <junkeR> hey, I downloaded and installed 7.10 last night
[02:59] <junkeR> when I open a music file using totem, it automatically sets itself to "always on top"
[02:59] <junkeR> anyway I can disable that?
[03:01] <wbadger> junkeR, I don't know, but if it's 7.10 related maybe you'll find more help in #ubuntu+1
[03:01] <junkeR> thank you
[03:04] <nanonyme> hey, is there some nokia phone bluetooth connectivity program for linux?
[03:07] <predaeus> nanonyme, also ask in #ubuntu
[03:08] <nanonyme> i will, just didn't want to cross-post before i get at least some answer :)
[03:23] <Usiu> Hi
[03:23] <Usiu> Does Xubuntu 7.04 have pidgin ?
[03:23] <Usiu> on iso image ?
[03:23] <Usiu> plz help
[03:24] <junkeR> no it does not
[03:24] <junkeR> it comes with GAIM but you can upgrade to pidgin
[03:24] <junkeR> you'll have to add in a new source in the repository list though
[03:24] <junkeR> 7.10 comes with pidgin by default
[03:26] <Usiu> hm..
[03:26] <Usiu> I am looking for low memory desktop
[03:26] <Usiu> liveCD
[03:26] <Usiu> and pidgin
[03:26] <Usiu> how about 7.05?
[03:27] <TheSheep> Usiu: livecds are usually memory-hungry
[03:27] <nanonyme> predaeus, btw, got an answer. gnokii :)
[03:28] <junkeR> Usiu: you should download the 7.10 alternate installer, then install fluxbox or something similar
[03:28] <Usiu> junkeR, hm.. howabout xfce?
[03:28] <junkeR> XFCE is installed by default on Xubuntu
[03:28] <Usiu> junkeR, is there any Ubuntu for low memory hardware ?
[03:28] <Usiu> ok..
[03:28] <junkeR> fluxbuntu is being released very soon
[03:28] <Usiu> but is xfce fast on 256ram
[03:29] <TheSheep> Usiu: but livecd will eat most of that ram just to run the system
[03:29] <junkeR> it's fast on my 512MB
[03:29] <junkeR> I used it on 256 as well and it runs very good
[03:29] <junkeR> http://fluxbuntu.org/
[03:29] <junkeR> xubuntu only requires 64MB to run
[03:30] <Usiu> how about fluxubuntu?
[03:30] <nanonyme> well, yes. the requirements are always too low though
[03:30] <nanonyme> that is, OS's tend to be hardly usable if you only follow the requirements :)
[03:31] <junkeR> XP wasn't all that bad on my Thinkpad..  Which had the base requirements
[03:31] <TheSheep> junkeR: livecd requires 192MB
[03:32] <junkeR> I was talking about the alternate (text mode) installer though
[03:32] <Usiu> Well my gril has 256ram and its shared with graphic card.. she is running winxp and it horribly slooow
[03:32] <Usiu> so I want to give her livecd so she can get familiar with it
[03:32] <nanonyme> junker, well, usually when you start installing programs you need, the system wants way more memory than the minimum req's
[03:32] <Usiu> and install if she likes it
[03:33] <nanonyme> heh, livecd won't make justice to xubuntu, really
[03:33] <nanonyme> livecd's are very very slow
[03:33] <junkeR> Usiu: why not try DamnSmallLinux?  Zenwalk?  UbuntuLite?
[03:34] <junkeR> DamnSmall is a liveCD that can also be installed to the hard drive
[03:34] <Usiu> Oh UbuntuLite ?
[03:35] <Usiu> I'll try UbuntuLite
[03:35] <Usiu> I hope it has pidgin
[03:35] <junkeR> I don't think it does, I've never used it.
[03:35] <Usiu> hmm server not found
[03:35] <Usiu> i guess they stoped working on it
[03:36] <junkeR> Usiu: read this http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/03/06/howto-ubuntu-lite-on-feisty/
[03:36] <junkeR> I was able to download the package using those instructions
[03:37] <junkeR> I have to go though, thank you everyone
[03:37] <nanonyme> will probably be partly deprecated in a few days
[03:37] <nanonyme> since gutsy is released on 18th
[03:38] <Usiu> Ok
[03:39] <Usiu> I'll wait until 7.10 fluxbuntu
[05:41] <junkeR> hey, I have wireless setup in Xubuntu 7.10.  When I boot up the machine it asks for the password because the wireless wants to access it
[05:41] <junkeR> can I disable that or something similar?
[05:47] <brobostigon> hi, i use ppc feisty, and have realplayer installed, i wanted to watch the snooker from the bbc wbsite and it seems not to work, any ideas why this would happen, it seems to open realplayer within firefox, but not doing anyhing??
[08:40] <vedd> anybody have any luck getting compiz-fusion to run on xubuntu?
[08:40] <vedd> the built-in compositing in xfce works but i cant seem to get any of the cf features to work
[10:50] <doko> please could somebody give me a hint how to configure the standard font size?
[10:51] <wbadger> !fonts
[10:51] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:52] <wbadger> heh it did show something
[10:52] <wbadger> sorry I have no solution for your particular problem
[10:52] <wbadger> maybe
[10:52] <wbadger> !font size
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about font size - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <Pumpernickel> doko: Applications > Settings > User interface settings
[11:16] <J-_> I'm guessing, "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems Cyberblade/il (rev 6a)" is the video card? Can I get video accel going on it?
[11:16] <J-_> !acceleration
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acceleration - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <J-_> !video
[11:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:17] <J-_> hrm
[11:21] <Pumpernickel> !info xserver-xorg-video-trident | J-_
[11:21] <ubotu> j-_: xserver-xorg-video-trident: X.Org X server -- Trident display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.3-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 70 kB, installed size 228 kB
[12:31] <garotosopa> Did Xubuntu developers tweak the desktop context menu? I don't see Create Folder, Paste, etc, on the official release.
[12:44] <MattJ> Hi all, does Gutsy have any power management for laptops?
[12:44] <MattJ> or would it need gnome-power-manager?
[01:11] <vidd> does anyone know how to set the "windows" key to "left-click"?