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svandervcould any one tell me about remote x display kubuntu to ubuntu server12:39
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BigDaddynosrednaekim: oop? Why am I having deja `vu?12:39
xeviousalright. new hilarious screenshot: http://mingus.shacknet.nu/~matt/screenshot2.png12:39
BigDaddynosrednaekim: OK, that did the trick.12:40
Linux_Galoresvanderv: the easy way to do it is to ssh login to the remote machine and run ther app you want12:40
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nosrednaekimBigDaddy: cool12:40
BigDaddyxevious: is that a display problem or are you doing that on purpose? It makes me nauseous with vertigo12:40
JosieNo way dude. That's like using a framebuffer mirror, it just keeps going and going.12:41
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: I always mess up like that :)12:41
BigDaddynosrednaekim: who is jucato? That name sounds familiar? Is he a regular here?12:41
svandervyou mean with ssh -X12:41
Linux_Galoresvanderv: dont even need that12:41
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: yeah... big time regular..12:41
svandervdo you need any x running on the server12:42
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BigDaddyI must have got some help from him before then12:42
xeviousBigDaddy: i ran krdc (remote desktop) and connected to localhost (i run a vnc server for when i'm at friends' houses), then minimized my irc window and took a screenshot really quick, so it caught the irc window falling into the void in the middle12:42
xeviousi think i crashed my vnc server12:42
Linux_Galoresvanderv: yes, if you dont then you use the -X option12:42
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: yup :)12:42
Hamrawow dude, nice screen!12:42
xeviousthx :D12:42
BigDaddyOK, That was my only question. I am going to get back to my tinkering. Thanks again.12:42
svandervok bu thave always the can not open display stuuf12:42
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Josiexevious, that was very clever =}12:44
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JosieMost useful page for my wireless usb stuff, ever: http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/belkin/index.html12:45
xeviousJosie: here's my old windows system, with a remote X session running on it. i used to use two computers at once: http://mingus.shacknet.nu/~matt/screenshot.jpg12:45
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svandervok thx guy's and regards12:46
JosieHaha. that's awesome.12:46
JosieI've never bothered to use remote X sessions from windows.12:46
JosieHow's it done?12:46
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NightBirdcygwin has an x server you can install for windows12:47
NightBirdthen set up putty to forward X requests, ssh into the linux box, and start linux gui programs12:47
JosieSweet. I've never bothered to install cygwin.12:47
NightBird(putty, or whatever ssh client you're using on the windows box)12:48
JosieI do devel so I usually just use stuff like msys.12:48
Linux_Galoresvanderv: sorry wrong you will need a x server running otherwise you dont have X1112:48
JosieAh I see.12:48
JosieNot to complicated.12:48
xeviousi just ran startkde then killed the program that drew the desktop wallpaper, so i could see windows behind the X session12:48
xeviouswell not just behind it. it worked seamlessly12:49
xeviousby the way. the slashdot article in that screenshot is "Apple: 60GB iPod Coming?"12:49
Linux_GaloreI havent run a remote x session in a long time, too much cli stuff12:49
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bjwebbwhat really simple graphics editor is their for linux, similar to ms paint?12:50
JosieLinux_Galore: Wow I can't believe I just heard that said in a linux channel.12:50
Powerking89670Hello All. I have been having some trouble with my Login screen (the fact that it never appears is a problem), and I've booted into my recovery console, logged in as root and started my xserver, I've started gdm, and made the proper changes, is there any way to be 100% certain that when I reboot that I will get a login screen?12:50
Josiebjwebb: I don't know, I think the purpose of oss is to surpass closed-sourced crap.12:50
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Linux_GaloreJosie: Im just noting Im very rusty on remote x sessions12:51
JosieI'm pretty rusty on a lot.12:51
JosieLike... GUIs for instance.12:51
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bjwebbJosie: nah but i want to resize an image to from something to 6 pixels, and i can't be bothered with the complexity of the gimp12:52
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Linux_GaloreJosie: I used to know how to make the default login on a machine boot up a remote xcm login etc but I have forgoten it all12:52
JosieHa. I've forgetten a lot of tinerking stuff.12:52
Josiebut that's why we're got IRC and BitchX. lol.12:52
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Josiebjwebb: GIMP isn't that complicated, just a little stubborn. You could always use ImageMagick, lol.12:53
JosieThat was a joke by the way, don't go and apt-get image magick.12:53
Linux_Galorethere is a KDE add on that allows you to eight click o a image file and a resize option appears, you can resize without opening the image itself12:53
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bjwebbive used gimp its good, but it seems overkill for this12:54
MatBoygimp is nice :)12:54
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Linux_Galoregimp is ok but for resizing its not needed12:54
JosiePersonally, I'm in love with Pidgin atm.12:54
HamraLinux_Galore: what is this add on called?12:54
MatBoyLinux_Galore, indeed, too much for that12:54
JosieIt's like someone from pimp my ride got a hold of Gaim.12:55
MatBoybtw, are there fixes for unexpected SDcard removals ?12:55
JosieIt's got 32" plasmas and spinners.12:55
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JosieMatBoy: Not that I know of, I usually make sure transfers are done before I pull the little bastard out.12:55
MatBoyJosie, mhh, it's happening when I read from the drive12:56
Linux_Galoreok there are two options for simple resizing, the manu method http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Photo+resize?content=6198,  and you can use SIR http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/SIR+-+Simple+Image+Resizer?content=3532512:56
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JosieMatBoy: What do you mean?12:56
yaccinis gcc in gutsy broken?12:57
MatBoyJosie, let me show you a topic about what happens12:57
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Josieyaccin:if gcc is broken you've got some SERIOUS problems.12:57
yaccinJosie: sqrt() doesnt seem to work o.O12:58
MatBoyJosie, here, check this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/9209112:58
JosieC or C++?12:58
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MatBoyit's happening on Feisty12:58
me_hello everyone :)12:58
Josieyaccin: Hmm, well will it compile without that?12:58
JosieCompile and Link that is12:59
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yaccinJosie: the main thing the program does depends on sqrt :P12:59
me_i am interested in kubuntu, especially fi anyone uses it to run blender (preferably the experimental builds)? thanks :)12:59
yaccin(remove the (double) from the sqrt()01:00
JosieMatBoy: Wow. No idea.01:00
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Josieme_: Afaik, blender works on all distros01:00
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Josieyaccin: give me a minute...01:00
MatBoyJosie, me neither... just only on my laptop01:01
yaccini really need this to work for programming classes ^^01:01
me_Josie: blender needs python 2.5 (which not all distros have) and a few lib files01:01
JosieCode::Blocks takes forever on here.01:01
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Josieyaccin: I feel you01:01
Josieme_: Most (well-maintained) distros will have Py2.501:01
JosieIf not there are ways to build it, unless you're a wart.01:02
me_i'm not a wart01:02
Linux_Galoreme_: Ubuntu/Kubuntu are the same so there are no issues in running blender on either01:02
Josieyaccin: had no problem compiling and linking here01:02
Josieyaccin: what's the error?01:02
xeviousyaccin: is this what you're getting? wurzel.c:(.text+0x6c): undefined reference to `sqrt'01:03
me_Linux_Galore: thanks. I tried ubuntu but it could not boot my laptop after installation (Toshiba Qosmio)01:03
xeviousi'm in feisty and getting that01:03
yaccin/tmp/ccTeTami.o: In function `main':01:03
yaccinwurzel.c:(.text+0x6e): undefined reference to `sqrt'01:03
yaccincollect2: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zurck01:03
Linux_Galoreme_: Try Gutsy, way better hardware support01:03
JosieMinGW and Mandrake 10.1 (Yes, I know that's old as dirt) compiles fine.01:03
me_can i already download that now?01:03
Linux_Galoreme_: yep01:04
me_cool .. is it the 7.10 RC?01:04
Josieyes indeed01:04
Linux_Galoreme_: yes indeed01:04
Josieyaccin: Are you sure all the std headers are there?01:04
me_i'll fetch it over night or go to Blenz later and grab it01:05
yaccinall the what?01:05
Linux_Galoreme_: RC is pretty much the final product minos some later patches but you will get patches even with the final release01:05
Josiewell.. actually wouldn't it throw a "file not found" error for the preprocessor directive #include <math.h>01:05
xeviousJosie: i have stdio.h and math.h, under kubuntu feisty and it doesnt compile. i have build-essential installed too01:05
me_what other window managers besides KDE will be available with kubuntu?01:05
JosieYaccin: It's possible you could be missing the math.h header, or it's messed up.01:05
yaccintheres a /usr/include/math.h01:06
Josiexevious, yaccin: That's freakin' strange.01:06
Linux_Galoreme_: XFCE if you want to keep your ram down, distributed as Xubuntu01:06
xeviousJosie: yeah. it sure is01:06
Linux_Galoreanyway time to go01:06
me_ok, thanks :)01:06
yaccinso what can i do about that?01:06
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Josieyaccin: you can attempt to reinstall GCC01:08
xeviousyaccin: just inputs a number and outputs the square root right?01:08
xeviousi dont read... german, is it?01:08
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yaccinxevious: right01:08
Josieyou could try01:08
yaccinJosie: sudo dpkg --reconfigure gcc?01:09
Josiedouble temp = sqrt(double(value);01:09
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Josieyaccin: I think. It's been a long time.01:09
yaccinstill the same error01:10
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joe_hey anyone, my kids managed to change my screen to a low resolution.  How do I change it back?01:11
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Hamrajoe_: go to system settings, "monitor & display"01:12
yaccinso... what now? ^^01:13
yaccinis it a broken package?01:13
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yaccinwill there be an update?01:14
JosieGcc doesn't update very often.01:14
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JosieIt's pretty freaking strange that it's not working.01:14
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JosieDo you have a linux live cd? if so try to compile it with that.01:15
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yaccini only have gutsy live cd ^^01:15
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yaccinand on a livecd i cant use kdevelop01:16
anish_need help....using ubuntu 7.04 (fiesty)... need voice chat capability on the fiesty box..01:16
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chris__I can't delete files of my usb stick, can anyone help?01:16
joe_hamra, thanks, I tried changing it there but no change.01:17
akrillwhat do i install to control compiz plugins and such?01:17
Josieyaccin, compile from the shell.01:17
yaccinbut doesnt the livecd use the same gcc that i use after installation?01:18
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Hamrayou need to restart X, if im not mistaken, log out, then login should solve it01:18
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Josieyaccin: yes but if there's any missing/corrupted headers/libraries then you'll know because the livecd will compile and link fine.01:18
joe_hamra, I'll try it01:18
chris__my usb pen is on read only can I change this?01:19
Josiechris did you try remounting in r/w?01:19
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chris__it was automaticly mounted01:20
chris__how would I do that?01:20
chris__fat16 partition01:20
JosieYou'll need to know the name of the device01:20
JosieIf I'm not mistaken its mount -o remount,rw DEVICE PATH01:20
yaccinJosie: sombody said i had to use gcc -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -O3 wurzel.c -lm -o wurzel01:20
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JosieYaccin, try it.01:20
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Josiechris__: mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdc01:21
chris__what is the device path?, where it is mounted or dev/sdc?01:21
chris__ok thanks01:21
JosieIf it gives you an invalid mount point error01:21
Hamraweird thing with USBs here too, when i insert an NTFS USB flash stick, "Disks & Filesystems" stop working01:21
Josieadd to the end of that the mount point. it shouldn't though.01:21
joe_Hamra, logged out logged back in thought it would work, but when opened back up low resolution again01:21
chris__'can't find /dev/sdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab' , what should I do?01:22
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Josiechris__: add the mount point to the end.01:22
Josieso it'll be mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdc mountpoint01:22
xevioussqrt works01:22
xeviousyaccin: your code is imperfect. hold on. i didtn really read it01:23
chris__ok thanks Josie, it work's01:23
chris__do I have to do that everytime I want to use it?01:23
Josiexevious: what was it?01:23
xeviousJosie: i think it's references to the variables01:23
yaccinxevious: it worked (even without math.h) without any options on gcc running on windows -_-01:23
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joe_Hamra, logged out logged back in thought it would work, but when opened back up low resolution again01:23
Josiechris__: No, you shouldn't have to, you can probably change the setting in your File & Disksystems manager, whatever it is.01:24
xeviousand quoting01:24
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Josiexevious: I was gonna go with improper makefile or something complete stupid like that.01:24
Hamrajoe_: sorry01:24
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joe_Hamra, res is 800*600, very annoying01:24
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xeviousbahh? ok this is odd01:26
xeviousthis is also way offtopic :D01:26
chris__Josie: Thanks for your help01:26
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Hamrajoe_: i hope this helps   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:27
joe_hamra: thanks but I think I just fixed it.  the resolution I tried 1st must not have been supported.01:28
yaccinxevious: now it compiles without errors, when i use all these options :D01:28
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Hamrajoe_: ok01:30
xeviousyaccin: what options?01:30
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akrillhow do i manage compiz plugins and such in kubuntu?01:30
yaccingcc -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -O3 wurzel.c -lm -o wurzel01:30
yaccin-lm is the important one01:30
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AlatiusAnyone here with experience with SCIM?01:31
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joe_hamra:  would you happen to know how to get back the start menu, once again the kids seem to have deleted it.01:32
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xeviousyaccin: yeah. should work just with -lm01:33
xeviousyaccin: i wonder why that's necessary. i mean... #include <math.h> should imply -lm01:33
yaccinyes i also thought that01:34
Hamrajoe_: if you happen to see the bar but without the start menu, right click on the bar and choose "add aplet to panel",  search for "K menu" and add it01:34
xeviousyaccin: i'm asking in #gcc01:35
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joe_hamra, thanks, that was easy01:35
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Hamrajoe_:you're welcome01:36
yaccinxevious: also ask why it seems to DOES imply on windows gcc :P01:36
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joe_Hamra, do you know anything about dual booting I just installed gutsy on my laptop w xp01:39
yaccinxevious: now i know why ^^01:39
JosieSo it was the -lm option?01:40
joe_Hamra, I created a fat32 partition during the gutsy install.  the fat32 shows up in windows but not in ubuntu?01:40
yaccinJosie: linking against the math library AFTER compiling ^^01:40
JosieTotally should have been implied.01:40
AlatiusI have an issue... If there is a process that automatically restarts if you kill it - how does that work? How can I prevent it?01:40
yaccinbecause the linker doesnt sees the sourcecode01:40
AlatiusI mean, what is the mechanism behind it? A bit vague question maybe, but I'm a bit noobish.01:41
Hamrasee "Disk & Filesystems" in system settings, and see if the partiton is enabled or have a mount point01:42
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JuJuBeeI have a config file in /usr/local/web/config.php and the folder /usr/local/web is owned by admin and the group is a group that www-data is a member of and it has rwx on folder web.  The webserver chokes unless the folder is owned by www-data.  Any ideas.01:45
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mrtimbowhen i try to enable mp3 support on amarok it freezes and dont let me do nothing, how do i fix this01:55
dsmith__how do I auto add nfs mounts like it does for usb and cdrom drives?01:56
dsmith__to the desktop01:57
mrtimbois anyone here?01:57
sub[t] rnldsmith__: first sudo apt-get install autofs01:59
JuJuBeedsmith_ : system settings->desktop->behavior->device icons01:59
dsmith__sub[t] rnl: thx02:00
dsmith__JuJuBee: thx02:00
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JuJuBeeThere you can tell which device icons to mount.02:00
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sub[t] rnlthen you'll look at your /etc/auto.home file and add the mounts there02:00
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joe_hamra, do you know where to find the disks and filesystem setting on ubuntu02:00
anish__need help....using ubuntu 7.04 (fiesty)... need voice chat capability on the fiesty box..02:01
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dsmith__sub[t] rnl: no auto.home in /etc02:03
yaccinanish__: what voice chat?02:03
sub[t] rnldsmith__: did you apt-get the autofs?02:03
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dsmith__master, misc, net and smb02:04
dsmith__thats it02:04
sub[t] rnldsmith__: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo02:04
Hamrajoe_: i usually go to start menu, system settings, click on advanced, and see it there. You can also try "ALT+F2", and typing kcontrol, system administration02:04
sub[t] rnlnear the bottum is some details on auto mounting nfs shares02:04
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yaccinHamra: i prefere systemsettings over kcontrol :P02:04
Hamrayaccin: me too02:05
sub[t] rnlkcontrol has a couple things that systemsettings left out though02:05
sub[t] rnlbut yeah, systemsettings ftw02:05
dsmith__wait, I have fstab already setup with my nfs share02:06
kerrywhy do adept allways crashes at the end of an update?02:06
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dsmith__why do I need to setup another config?02:06
Hamrai still wish there something similar to YAST in SUSE02:06
yaccinsub[t] rnl: i only know 1 thing ^^02:07
kerryadept tells me theres a new version of kubuntu what is it?02:08
joe_hamra, thanks, but this last ? was on a machine w/ ubuntu not kubuntu so the menus are all different.  I probably need to got a ubuntu channel02:08
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Hamrajoe_: ya it probably is, i never tried the GNOME environment02:09
Powerking*gasp*...never tried gnome?02:09
kerryadept tells me theres a new version of kubuntu what is it?02:09
Hamrajoe_: did you find what you want though?02:09
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kerryadept tells me theres a new version of kubuntu what is it?02:11
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joe_Yeah you solved my first 2 issue on my Kubuntu machine.  quick ?, is therea way to lock down the menus and such so my kids cant mess stuff up?02:11
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Hamrajoe_: on kubuntu, when i right click the bar, i see "Lock Panels"02:13
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joe_Hamra, thatnks your a genious02:14
Hamrajoe_: glad to help02:15
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xeviouskerry: which version are you running?02:20
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xeviouskerry: because the new version won't be out until the 18th, unless you have adept set to show prerelease updates02:22
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BigDaddyOK, another (should be) simple question. I want a CPU - MEM - NET monitor like I had in GNOME's panel. The only thing I can find is CPULoad and KNetLoad. But they sit in the "system tray".02:23
BigDaddySysGuard is empty and there is no option to config02:23
BigDaddyAny suggestions for that? I would like a graphical representation and not text02:24
tzangerhit control-escape02:24
BigDaddytask manager, OK02:24
tzangerthat's the kde system guard... works fine for me02:24
BigDaddyHmm, this is not what I meant. I am refering to the System Guard applet that is added to the panel02:25
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gridl0cksuperkaramba comes to mind and add a theme02:26
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BigDaddygridl0ck: I had thought about that, but I wanted something that was visible when a window was maximized02:27
BigDaddySo the panel is the logical place for me02:27
gridl0ckthen applet it to the panel02:27
gridl0ckor a panel*02:28
gridl0ckno applet02:28
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BigDaddygridl0ck: I'm confused. That is what I am asking for. What applet can I install that will give me a graphical representaion of CPU/MEM/NET02:29
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gridl0cksorry misread - system monitor?02:30
gridl0cki use superkaramba or gkrellm02:31
BigDaddyyes, I have that one, but I was hoping for one that was more like the monitor in the GNOME panel02:31
BigDaddygkrellm, what is that?02:31
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gridl0ckapplets are limited and kind of well visually challenged02:32
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gridl0ckit's a stacked monitoring app02:33
BigDaddylol, that is what I am finding. That is such a shame too. Is there a way to use GNOME applets in KDE?02:33
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gridl0cki stay away from anything gnome related as much as possible - nothing against the team - but i try to support kde fully02:34
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hurdneed help....using ubuntu 7.04 (fiesty)... need voice chat capability on the fiesty box..02:34
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BigDaddyI understand. I like only a few things about GNOME, but I love the feel of KDE so far. This is just one of the few things that is bugging me.02:35
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squidyhey guys.. i've intalled the w32codecs into my system.. and when i try watch an rmvb video in kaffeine i just listen to audio.. but video doesn't apper..02:35
squidyhow do i get audio and video works in kaffeine?02:36
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Josieson of a ***** the stupid alternative install CD wouldn't detect the wireless stuff correctly, and there's no way to give this computer a wired connection atm.02:36
hurdsquidy...use vlc player02:36
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hurdworks everytime02:36
gridl0ckBigDaddy, in time you will come to appreciate the work of superkaramba and gkrellm if you use it to your liking02:37
squidyhurd: i know.. but i really want to run kaffeine for that.. is there a way to do that?02:37
gridl0ckBigDaddy, i have re-written a unix.theme to my needs and use it on the laptop and desktop02:37
BigDaddySo far I am not impressed with desktop widgets02:37
lontrasquidy: if you want a nice kde player i'd recommend kplayer02:37
BigDaddygridl0ck: do you have a screenshot?02:37
gridl0cklet me screen shot this theme i mod'd02:37
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gridl0ckhave to minimize crap02:38
squidyok ok.. i like kaffeine.. isn't a way to install rmvb codec and make it work with kaffeine?02:39
BigDaddygridl0ck: thats exactly what I am talking about. If I have a bunch of windows open, I don't want to have to minimize them all to see the info02:39
gridl0ckerm not exactly what i was getting at - but sec02:39
lontrasquidy: play around with the video settings02:39
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hurdcheckd some more on kaffeine02:47
hurdtoo many issues buddy02:47
hurdsquid pro quo02:47
JosieSo ca anyone help me with this: I'm trying to install Kubuntu (7.04) with the alternative install cd (Computer doesn't have enough ram for the other one), however it doesn't load the proper module for my wireless adaptar and I won't connect to the network and thefore throws "Cannot download file" errors when it tries to install the base system.02:48
squidyweird.. :( kaffeine just play audio.. video doesn't appear..  :(02:48
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Josie... no one. damn.02:50
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adarancan anyone tell me how to install synaptic?02:50
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xeviousJosie: sorry. i don't use wireless02:50
xeviousJosie: do you know which module your wireless card uses?02:51
dumnuthi, i loaded kubuntu disk 6.06.1 yesterday and it worked fine hooking up to internet right away, then just hour ago it lost connection, i called att and it said signal goes to modem fine, but the modem lnternet light is off, is it bad mdem (6months old) or i need to configure some with kubuntu?02:51
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Josiexevious: rt7302:51
Josiequite certain.02:51
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xeviousJosie: can't you just modprobe it and start configuring?02:52
sub[t] rnldumnut: sounds like the modem isn't getting power or malfunctioning.  If att said the signal string was ok (not getting many flaps) then its a hardware issue02:52
xeviousJosie: again, i don't use wireless, so i don't know about setting up the keys and stuff02:52
Josiexevious: It's semi-graphical. uses curses. I suppose I could cntrl alt into another terminal and try to modprobe it.02:52
xeviousJosie: that's what i'd do02:52
JosieI'll try that in a minute.02:53
xeviousJosie: if it's in text mode, it's just alt to another terminal. ctrl-alt is for dropping from x to a text terminal02:53
JosieYeah yeah.02:53
dumnutsub[t] rnl: good point, i'll call att to send me new modem. btw, i am trying to get funding to start my internet business, i'll let all you guys know when to register to buy my stocks.02:53
xeviousjust letting you know in case you didn't02:53
JosieThanks =}02:53
JosieAlright gonna go try that.02:54
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JosieUnfortuanetly, I'm using the computer I'm installing this on. lol. be back soon hopefully02:54
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:55
sub[t] rnldumnut: keep us informed on that insider trading!02:55
sub[t] rnl:P02:55
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kerrysub[t] rnl: how to connect linux on xp?02:57
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kerryhow to connect linux on xp? xevious02:58
xeviouskerry: i'm not sure what you mean...02:58
sub[t] rnlkerry: if you want to access linux through windows you'll need to set up samba on the linux box02:59
xeviouskerry: are you talking about sharing files between a linux and windows xp computer?02:59
kerryxevious: yes03:00
sub[t] rnl!samba03:00
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:00
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xeviouskerry: read those links, but the basic setup will be install samba and swat, connect to http://localhost:901/ in a web browser03:00
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sub[t] rnlhi03:01
Rominais there any known bug with firefox in kubuntu?03:01
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Rominasometimes ... actually, very often,  firefox does not start when I do an ALT+F2 "firefox"03:01
sub[t] rnlnot that I know of, you looking for a buffer overflow? :P03:01
Rominathe firefox icon moves up and does next to my mouse pointer as if firefox would be up to start03:02
Rominaafter a minute or so this icon disappears03:02
Rominaand firefox is still not running03:02
xeviousRomina: you probably have a dead firefox process03:02
Rominaxevious,  not really....03:02
xeviousopen a terminal or hit alt+f2 and type killall firefox03:02
Rominakillall -9 firefox-bin   shows me that no dead process is active03:03
Rominaxevious, firefox-bin is the name of the process according to "top"03:03
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Rominawell,  I tried to reproduce the error by starting firefox out of "konsole"03:04
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Rominabut how often I try,  whenever I start firefox using konsole it starts03:04
Rominawhen I do "ALT+F2"  and "firefox"  it starts 1 of 4 times03:04
Rominadoes ALT+F2  use anything else than konsole?03:04
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sub[t] rnlyou see anything unusual in the konsole when you start it?03:05
sub[t] rnlany gripes?03:05
clouderRomina: I've had that problem too, as well as when I click Icons in the kde menu.  Just completely random as far as I've seen03:05
Rominaclouder, any solution?03:05
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Rominasub[t] rnl, nope,  when I start it in the konsole everything works fine03:06
clouderRomina: nah, I thought it was because I installed kubuntu-desktop ontop of a ubuntu install did you do the same?03:06
Rominaclouder, no its a regular kubuntu installation03:06
sn00zewill beryl run on a amd 800 and geforce2?03:07
sub[t] rnlhow did you install it? source or apt or something else?03:07
sub[t] rnlfirefox that is03:07
clouderRomina: I don't know then I don't have a solution, but it is a but annoying03:07
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Rominasub[t] rnl, aptitude install firefox03:07
cloudera bit*03:07
sub[t] rnlRomina: odd03:07
Rominamaybe I should compile it *g*03:07
sub[t] rnlhehe, yeah I've never had a problem with firefox + ubuntu/kubuntu03:08
clouderRomina: I don't think that would help, it did that to me earlier with adept, which I ran by clicking it through the k menu03:08
xeviousi've seen the problem before03:08
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sub[t] rnlxevious: any ideas on what causes it?03:08
xeviousi've only seen it when there were dead firefox processes03:08
sub[t] rnlyeah03:09
cmartellodoes anybody know about sound-recorder and why it might regularly terminate after ~3 minutes when I set it to record for four hours?03:09
xeviousRomina: try ps axuw|grep fox at the prompt03:09
Rominaany other way to determine firefox processes than doing a "killall -9 firefox-bin" ?03:09
xeviouser in a terminal03:09
grulps aux | grep firefox03:09
xeviousnot at alt+f203:09
grulwhat's w do?03:10
grulin ps03:10
xeviouswide mode03:10
sub[t] rnlyum03:10
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xeviouslets extremely long commands wrap to a newline03:10
Rominathats the output03:10
scienceboydoes anyone know of a way to create a live DVD that i can use as though the rest of the DVD is a hard drive?03:10
Rominabut firefox runs now03:11
xeviousRomina: was that with firefox running or not?03:11
Rominawith it running03:11
RominaI closed every firefox window03:11
Rominastill the same output03:11
Rominahow can I kill these processes?03:12
Rominafirefox: no process killed03:12
Rominafirefox-bin: no process killed03:12
Rominadoes not work the  killall -9  stuff03:12
xeviousRomina: kill 6432 643303:13
xeviousthen do ps auxw|grep fox again to see if it worked03:13
xeviousif not, try kill -9 6432 643303:13
xeviousand check again03:13
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Rominauser@linux:~$ ps axuw|grep fox03:14
Rominauser      6532  0.0  0.1   2884   752 pts/2    R+   03:14   0:00 grep fox03:14
xeviousyeah that's fine03:14
Rominaso it should start now?03:15
xeviousit should03:15
xeviousyou don't have the weird stale konsole processes running that were executing firefox03:15
xeviouskonsole --noclose -e /bin/sh -c firefox03:16
xeviousthat's odd03:16
Rominamoment pls03:16
xeviousi dunno what that is03:16
Rominait started03:16
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sub[t] rnlnice nice03:16
RominaThank you :-)03:17
xeviousno problemo03:17
Rominacan I create a shortcut icon for firefox?03:17
Rominatray icon ...03:17
Rominalike gaim,  kopete,  xchat and so on03:17
clouderyeah, just right click one of them and choose add application03:18
sub[t] rnlsure, should be able to add and app to the kicker just by right clicking03:18
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TheDudeyou cant even install pidgin on kbuntu03:18
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sub[t] rnlksmoothdock would be a lot cooler though03:18
clouderTheDude: I did, but I compiled it03:18
sub[t] rnl*cough*03:18
TheDudeclouder: what a bunch of shit03:19
TheDudeit should be available in apt03:19
clouderi think it is03:19
clouderin backports maybe?03:19
TheDudeclouder: you are crazy03:19
clouderit will be avail in gutsy I think I heard03:19
TheDudeclouder: its a im client....how hard could it be to include03:20
TheDudegoin to be availablee?03:20
Rominawell, pidgin does not offer anything new to gaim03:20
TheDudeRomina: so what?03:20
Rominaboth have the same problem:  No option to block ICQ contacts03:20
Romina(to appear invisible to a user)03:20
clouderTheDude: I don't know, I haven't made a package yet03:20
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TheDudeclouder: pigin is one of the most  popular chat clients03:21
cloudernot sure about that, but I do like it03:21
Rominaclouder, adding an app to the tray icons does not work03:22
Rominaare you sure that you did not tell me how to add icons?03:22
Rominatray icons are these quick-starters03:22
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TheDudeI am capable of compiling it......uhhh....just , what kinda of repo is this?03:22
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Rominawhen you close an application it still runs as tray icon03:22
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RominaBackport for pidgin03:24
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scienceboydoes anyone know of a way to create a live DVD that i can use as though the rest of the DVD is a hard drive?03:24
TheDudethis is a sssssloopppy version of linux...only thing its got goin is knetworkmanager and the power app03:25
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sub[t] rnlwhats sloppy?03:29
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hellhounddoes anyone know where I can find pyxml?  i cannot find it in the adept manager03:31
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sub[t] rnlhellhound: sudo apt-get install python-xml03:33
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MinatakuWhere's gas and plasma?03:34
MinatakuSorry. Bored.03:34
sub[t] rnlhehe03:34
hellhoundsub[t] rnl: according to this site: http://www.synce.org/index.php/SyncEngine   i need both python-xml and pyxml03:34
scienceboydoes anyone know of a way to create a live DVD that i can use as though the rest of the DVD is a hard drive?03:35
MinatakuYou can create a LiveDVD with customized contents, yes03:35
MinatakuHowever after that, it's read-only03:36
scienceboyhow do you customize the contents?03:36
MinatakuI don't know, I've never done it. Try Googling.03:36
MinatakuI'm sure there are instructions/tools out there ^^03:36
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cmartelloyeah, there's a couple tools03:37
cmartellothey don't even look that hard to use03:37
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clouderuse the rest of the dvd as a hard drive? like to read and write?  that would be kerazie03:41
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squidyhey.. is there a repository for software commercial-nonfree from canonical?03:44
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squidyi found...03:46
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Les_Caesarshey, I have a question about compiz. I configured compiz to initiate the mouse-rotate of the cube, when I middle click. But I only want it to rotate when I middle click on the desktop. How do  I go about doing that?03:49
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xeviousok. so my question about compiz. is the only useful thing it offers the ability to shrink all your windows to fit the screen?03:53
xeviousother than that, pretty stuff...?03:53
Les_Caesarsxevious: lol. No. It has a LOT of useful stuff03:53
Les_Caesarsgrouping&tabbing windows is very useful03:53
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Les_Caesarsand the cube, although it looks like a toy, actually IS very useful03:54
nosrednaekimI like opacity...03:54
Les_Caesarsthe transparent is actually useful03:54
Les_Caesarszooming is useful03:54
Les_Caesarsso is annotate03:55
Les_Caesarstheir screenshot is useful, but it's not something you can't get w/o compiz03:55
xeviousi installed it once, and the adept_notifier/compiz bugginess bothered me. all i noticed was that my windows jiggled03:56
Les_Caesarsthe placement of the windows and extra WM actions are useful03:56
xeviouswhat happens when you launch an opengl app?03:57
Les_Caesarsxevious: oh. Uninstall it and try again. That's not a problem any more03:57
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nosrednaekimxevious: I think there is openGL passthrough...03:57
Les_Caesarsxevious: it runs like normal. The performance is a little worse I think. But that just might be all in my head. I use Radeon, so OpenGL is f=ed up for me anyway03:57
PSPJunkieHas anyone had a problem where Power Manager reports 0% charged and it isn't charging at all, as well as running 'acpi' ?03:58
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Les_Caesarsxevious: did you install the compizfusion icon? It sounds like you never got to the configurer03:58
Les_Caesarsto see all of the features it has03:58
Les_Caesarsit really IS useful.03:58
xeviousthis was a while ago03:58
xeviouswhat version of compiz am i looking for?03:58
Les_Caesarsum. I don't have the latest. But mine is...03:59
xeviousLes_Caesars: which repository does that come from?04:00
xeviousand what's the difference between compiz and compiz fusion?04:00
Les_Caesarsxevious: gimme a moment to find out04:00
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Les_Caesarsxevious: compiz is old. Compiz fusion is what used to be compiz.04:00
Les_Caesarsxevious: I make a bad habit of referring to compizfusion as just compiz04:00
xeviousadept is showing 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13 for me04:00
xeviousthat's just "compiz"04:01
Les_Caesarsyeah. It's compiz-core for me04:01
sub[t] rnlberyl + compiz04:01
sub[t] rnlyum04:01
Les_Caesarsbut anywho. The repo...04:01
Smurf-SlayerCan someone please point me to "good" instructions on how to put Java on my Ununtu machine so it will work with Firefox?  THX04:02
Les_CaesarsSmurf-Slayer: I know this isn't what you're asking for. But I think it's just a plugin you install from synaptic IIRC04:02
Smurf-SlayerI've tried to follow the "manual" install instructions, and I've tried doing the install RPM and using the RPM but that still does't work.  It complains that jre needs ... and a huge list of things...04:03
nosrednaekim!java | Smurf-Slayer04:03
ubotuSmurf-Slayer: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.04:03
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: 32bit or 64bit?04:03
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Smurf-SlayerI just upgraded to 7.04.   And it is 32-bit04:04
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Java_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox04:04
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: pay attention to the first two lines that say "Read #..."04:05
Les_Caesarsxevious: http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse04:05
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Les_Caesarsadd one for source code and one without04:05
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Les_Caesarsthose are the only ones I seem to have.04:06
Les_Caesarsexcept for wine04:06
Smurf-SlayerI get this error when I try xevious' method... Package sun-java6-plugin is not available,04:07
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: then you didn't add the repositories04:07
Smurf-SlayerI gotta ask a dumb question... Why is this so darn hard?  Is it because of the license agreement or something?  I fail to understand why I can't just say "put it on there", and it does it... ARG!04:08
PSPJunkieNo one has had this problem with acpi?04:09
xeviouscommercial (non-GPL) software takes a few steps. the main one is adding appropriate repositories for commercial software04:09
Smurf-SlayerI guess I'm missing some key parts on how to add this multiverse thing...04:10
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: http://kubuntuguide.org/Feisty#Add_Extra_Kubuntu_Repositories04:11
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: follow it step by step. read _everything_04:11
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xeviousSmurf-Slayer: after that, it's just sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin (recommend closing firefox first)04:12
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Smurf-Slayerxevious...  Okay, turned them on like it says, and it is actually doing it now!04:15
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: excellent!04:15
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: there's a whole lot of great info in that kubuntu guide, there's also the ubuntu guide which 90% applies to kubuntu04:15
Smurf-SlayerGot the jre, now it is doing bin04:15
letalisis there a way to setup a shortcut to the k menu similar to the way the windows key functions in windows.04:15
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: just avoid automatix like the plague04:16
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xeviousletalis: alt-f1 does it04:16
npillowpatsSmurf-Slayer : automatix is the devil04:16
xeviousletalis: the windows key is a modifier in linux (like alt and ctrl) so i dont think that just the windows key can be assigned to any functions04:17
npillowpatsman, icewm is nice04:17
npillowpatsso minimal and humble04:17
kcs80xevious: it can, if you change the mapping04:17
letalisif i could set it to WIn+Z it would be fine04:18
letalisi just got used to having that functionality and having a search in kbfx is useless if you actually have to click the button04:18
xeviousletalis: K Menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts04:19
kcs80letalis: kcontrol > keyboard shortcuts > pop launch menu, and choose the combination win+z04:19
xeviousletalis: "Popup Launch Menu" is there, under Panel04:19
kcs80if you want the windows key to popup without any extra key, you will need to create a .Xmodmap file with the mapping04:19
kcs80ie "keycode 115 = F15"04:20
xeviouskcs80: wouldn't that eliminate using the windows key as a modifier?04:20
kcs80xevious: yes04:20
xeviouskcs80: thought so04:20
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Smurf-Slayerxevious!  You da man!  Thanks VERY Much!04:22
Smurf-SlayerI've never gotten it to work before, and it does now!!!  WOO HOO!04:22
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: my pleasure. enjoy!04:22
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letalisthanks xevious04:22
xeviousyer welcome04:23
letalisnow to get kbfx to work with it and ill be happy.04:23
Smurf-SlayerNext easy question...  What do I have to do to see something like "Windows Task Manager", specifically the CPU, I/O and Networking utilization, if any of that is available?04:23
LeRoyI am running kubuntu feisty on my lenovo R61 lappy.  I have a Ricoh xD-Picture Card Controller which I can ID with lspci, but it doesn't automount.  What is the command to mount this device?04:23
letalisSmurf-Slayer: its called ksysguard04:23
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: KSysGuard04:23
melHey guys, I am new to linux and I have a P105 Toshiba Satellite laptop computer. I have been reading up on the forums on the sound issues. I am having these issues. No sould at all. I tried everything that was posted on the forums. Can someone logon to my system for me and fix my sound. I had same problems ith saybayon so I switched to ubuntu with th same results...04:24
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: you can customize it to display what you want04:24
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Smurf-SlayerIs that something I have to install, or is it already on here and I have to find it?04:25
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: K Menu -> System -> KSysGuard04:25
nosrednaekimmel: did you try going to #alsa yet?04:25
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nosrednaekimSmurf-Slayer: its already installed04:26
xeviousSmurf-Slayer: it'll just take a little while to figure out how to customize the displays04:26
acee1234y doesnt the windows key act as super in kubuntu?04:26
melI tried the alsa already yes..I will try again..04:26
LeRoyacee1234: it can, you just have to configure it to do so04:27
acee1234LeRoy: how do i do that?04:27
LeRoyin k-menu, system settings04:27
LeRoyacee1234: one sec04:27
nosrednaekimmel: well,  I would ssh in there...but I can't right now. I have to go in about 15 minutes04:27
LeRoyacee1234: ok, kmenu/system settings/Region & Language select keyboard layout, then chooce the xkb Options tab.  Enable xkb then scroll down the list of options and you will find one to enable win key as super OR...04:28
melNo problems.. Thanks anyway04:28
LeRoyacee1234: depending on the keyboard type you have, from the layout tab you can select the keyboard model which will then add the command to enable the win key as super... but I use an IBM type M keyboard, which is a 101 keyboard, and have to enable my left alt as super... so there is that as well04:30
LeRoyok, back to my question: if my xD-Picture Card does not mount automagically is there a way to mount it manually?  I'm not sure what the device is...04:31
scienceboywhat does the following lines mean04:32
scienceboy# apt-get remove ttf-baekmuk \04:32
scienceboy    ttf-kochi-gothic \04:32
scienceboy    ttf-kochi-mincho04:32
nosrednaekimLeRoy: take a look at dmesg after popping a card.04:32
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scienceboy# vi /etc/apt/sources.list # (Enable universe repositories)04:32
scienceboy# apt-get update04:32
scienceboy# apt-get install partimage partimage-server ssh04:32
scienceboy# /etc/init.d/partimaged stop # (Stops extra processes and frees sockets)04:33
scienceboy# /etc/init.d/ssh stop # (Stops extra processes and frees sockets)04:33
scienceboy# update-rc.d -f partimaged remove04:33
scienceboy# update-rc.d -f kdm remove04:33
scienceboy# apt-get clean04:33
scienceboy# dpkg-reconfigure console-data # (Select Italian Standard keyboard)04:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:33
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LeRoynosrednaekim: dmesg... forgot about that... I am able to find it in lspci... but forget to check dmesg...thanks, let me do that.04:33
acee1234LeRoy: thank you works great04:33
LeRoyacee1234: welcome!04:33
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scienceboycan someone tell me what this means?04:34
dxdtHello, I'm currently using ubuntu and I would like to switch to kubuntu.  I don't want to just install kubuntu-desktop, however, because I feel that it will put WAY too many applications that I don't need on my machine.  Is there a minimalist KDE install I could do by chance?04:34
AresilekI download and installed beryl-kubuntu from the rep., does anyone know how to fire it up?04:34
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popei'm having trouble getting stacks to work w/ kiba-dock, any suggestions?04:34
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xeviousok, so Ctrl-Escape brings up "Taskmanager" according to System Settings. This launches KDE System Guard (KSysGuard) but only with the process table, not with the Load tab. anyone know why this is?04:35
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scienceboydxdt - i do not know of any minimalist KDEs, however what you could do is install the desktop, then spend a bit of time uninstalling the programs that you do'nt want04:37
LeRoyscienceboy: it debends on the context... it looks like instructions for removing a truetype font, then editing a source.list file for apt get followed by and update followed by and upgrade.04:37
xevious(and yes, i do know that i can switch it to a "Command Shortcut")04:37
scienceboythe context is as following04:37
scienceboyNow you are at the root of the (K)Ubuntu filesystem. Tweak the system as you like:04:37
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scienceboyit has to do with creating a custom live CD04:37
scienceboythe link that i got it from is here04:38
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LeRoyscienceboy: seems like there should be more to it.  I haven't created a live CD however, so I can't say for certain.  It's clearly instructions for installing partimage and partimage-server (as well as ssh, though I would assume ssh already installed, or personally I use openssh...)04:39
xeviouslast time i tried compiz you had to do without a pager. has this changed?04:40
LeRoyscienceboy: sorry, not experience with that... looks like that's step 6 of a longer list of steps though... have you done the first 5?04:40
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nosrednaekimxevious: pager?04:40
LeRoyxevious: a pager?04:40
scienceboyleroy: i'm just trying to understand it first04:40
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LeRoyscienceboy: well, the steps you've sited relate specifically to removing applications from apt, modifying the sources.list to enable getting additional applications from apt, then doing some clean-up and "tweaking"... that's helpful?04:41
scienceboyleroy: yes, it is helpful. but what exactly is sources.list? do i just put the names of the applications that i wish it to include into that file, and i'm good to go?04:42
xeviousnosrednaekim, LeRoy: a desktop pager. the little thing where you see tiny outlines of the windows from all your desktops04:42
kcs80scienceboy: thanks a lot for this link, very nice information, I will try that04:42
nosrednaekimxevious: like expose?04:42
xeviousnosrednaekim, LeRoy: the only way to see all your desktops was to spin the cube around04:42
nosrednaekimah! I see04:42
nosrednaekimi'm not sure if that was fixed yet.04:43
scienceboykcs80: you're welcome. if you manage to do it, then please tell me!04:43
xeviousi use the desktop pager all the time, drag windows from one desktop to another, etc04:43
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LeRoyxevious: with compiz-fusion you can view all desktops via Expo as well as rotating the cube... plus you can use either window switcher or ring switcher to view all open apps, regarless of desktop... check out the folks at #compiz, they can get you more details04:45
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nosrednaekimLeRoy: thats not what he is talking about.04:46
tony_Can anyone help with an install?04:46
nosrednaekimtony_: sure04:46
xeviousLeRoy: yeah. i'll bother them instead :)04:46
acee1234when i try to install emerald it keeps telling me BREAK(install). any ideas?04:46
LeRoyxevious: they will likely have more info on setup and such... sorry couldn't be much help, though I use CF all the time.04:46
nosrednaekimacee1234: what does it break?04:46
xeviousthanks LeRoy04:46
letalisis ther ea program for X that would automate the mouse licking areas of the screen with a keyboard press?04:47
letalisi dont think hotkeying the kmenu will work with kbfx04:47
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letalislol licking04:47
acee1234x crashed if anyone replied please repost04:47
nosrednaekimacee1234: what does it break?04:48
tony_nosrednaekim: I am getting a hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 error when I try to access my slave drive04:48
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tony_nosrednaekim: THat and I cant play any movies.04:49
kcs80acee1234: i would do a "dpkg --configure -a" and see if the break remains04:49
nosrednaekim!mount | tony_04:49
ubotutony_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter04:49
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acee1234nosrednaekim: it just says that from the adept packed manager under  "requested"04:49
nosrednaekimacee1234: humm... try installing it from the command line... it will give a better error04:49
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scienceboyleroy: is that how sources.list works?04:50
Airforce55555is there a way to send around 500mb of info directly to someone else. not using any medium04:50
NightBirdn/m I wasn't looking in the right spot..04:51
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:51
acee1234nosrednaekim: http://pastebin.com/m554ae7f704:51
nosrednaekimtony_: just use the disk and filesystems in system settings04:52
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:52
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LeRoyscienceboy: sources.list is a list of sources (sorry to sound redundant!) for applications.  So for instance, the default sources.list file will contain the paths to the various source packages available.  YOu can modify sources.list to include additional sources.  So if you, for instance, want unsupported multimedia apps, you'd look for the medubuntu sources and add them to the sources.list.  aft04:53
LeRoyer that you'd updates your database of sources using apt-get update.  Then you could use apt-get install x to instal package x from the new sources.04:53
tony_nosrednaekim: How do I enable the disk?04:53
nosrednaekimtony_: are you in there?04:53
kcs80letalis: kmousetool, maybe?04:53
tony_nosrednaekim: Show Details not mouted04:53
nosrednaekimacee1234: run a "sudo apt-get update"04:54
nosrednaekimtony_: ok, well, edit that disk/partition, and tell it to automount04:54
tony_nosrednaekim: click New?04:55
acee1234nosrednaekim: same error04:55
nosrednaekimtony_: yeah04:55
nosrednaekimacee1234: what repositories do you have enabled?any 3rd party ones?04:55
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nosrednaekimtony_: make the mount point somewhere in /media04:56
nosrednaekimhave it able to be mounted by normal users.04:56
nosrednaekimhave it be enabled at startup.04:56
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nosrednaekimtony_: is it NTFS?04:57
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nosrednaekimno koubre04:57
clouderscienceboy: yeah to addon to LeRoy, sources.list just lists places where app packages exists. then your package managers such as apt, adept, etc... (when updated) say hey I can now install this stuff.04:58
koubreIm Mexican one questuion04:58
acee1234nosrednaekim: fixed it was the third party repositories04:58
acee1234nosrednaekim: thank you04:58
scienceboyleroy/clouder: so i modify sources.list to include different packages, with a url? and then i do apt-update to install them?04:59
koubrehow install win Kubuntu04:59
koubrehow isntall wine04:59
tony_nosrednaekim: FAT04:59
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.04:59
tony_It says I need a mount point04:59
LeRoyscienceboy:  you add the source uri then use apt-update to update the local db for apt, then you use apt-get install to install a particular package...04:59
nosrednaekimtony_: ok,put in /media/slave04:59
clouderscienceboy: you you'd add the source to the sources.list then do $sudo apt-get update then $sudo apt-get install whatever-i-want-here04:59
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nosrednaekimyou can replace slave with whatever you want05:00
scienceboyleroy: so i use it to add teh repositorys05:00
LeRoyscienceboy: that's the idea!05:00
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scienceboyleroy: thank you!05:00
scienceboyclouder: thank you too!05:00
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LeRoyquestion: converting mp3 to wav/ogg in konqueror... what the syntax?  I've done it before, but I've forgotten...05:00
LeRoyscienceboy: np05:00
scienceboyleroy/clouder: so now i'm going to try that, after the new version comes out!05:00
nosrednaekimLeRoy: audiocd:/05:01
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tony_nosrednaekim: YOU ROCK05:01
nosrednaekimtony_: that works?05:01
LeRoynosrednaekim: that's to read the files from an audio cd and convert them to something else, if I remember correctly.  I already have the mp3 and I want to convert them to something else...05:02
kerryxevious: back05:02
clouderscienceboy: you mean gutsy?05:02
tony_nosrednaekim: If you can fix it so I can watch videos on here Kubuntu is a keeper..05:02
nosrednaekimLeRoy: ah sorry05:02
kerryxevious: to connect linux to xp05:02
letalishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBFX_(KDE) kbfx wikipedia writeup, offers a way to use the win key with kbfx05:02
nosrednaekimtony_: what type of videos?05:02
tony_nosrednaekim: Yes sir it did.05:02
kerryto connect linux to xp nosrednaekim05:03
kerryxevious: how do i proceed?05:03
xeviouskerry: i'm heading out for the night. there are many people here who can help you out with setting up samba to share nicely with windows05:03
scienceboyclouder: yes, that one05:03
nosrednaekimkerry: eh.... i;m about to leave too.05:03
tony_nosrednaekim: I tried wmv, avi, dvd nothing plays in Kaffine. I dl'ed the codecs in Add/Remove programs05:03
nosrednaekimjust gotta finish with tony here05:03
nosrednaekim!codecs | tony_05:04
ubotutony_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:04
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:04
cloudersomeone correct me if I'm wrong, but do upgrade to gutsy when it's official don't you do $sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?05:04
nosrednaekimtony_: use adept_manager,it lists more packages.05:04
kerryclouder: yes05:04
nosrednaekimclouder: you have to change your sources.list first, but yeah05:04
clouderoh you do, ok05:05
tony_nosrednaekim: WHen I was trying out Ubuntu ... everything played. It found the codecs on its own.05:05
xeviouscan someone help kerry out with setting up a simple samba share between a new kubuntu install and a windows computer?05:05
nosrednaekimtony_: yeah... indeed, its is nicer in that way. umm all I can say is try "libxine-extracodecs" and try to find a codec mentioning avi.05:06
tony_nosrednaekim: I'll try adpt_manager05:06
nosrednaekimand I have to go... have fun everyone!05:06
kerry7.04 :)05:06
tony_nosrednaekim: let me try. Thanks again for your help.05:06
cloudernosrednaekim: have a good one05:07
nosrednaekimNP :)05:07
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kerryxevious: all  the time u are there u could of tell me how or give me the tuto on a website or something05:07
clouderkerry, have you tried ubuntuguide.org?05:08
clouderI've gotten my samba working with my pops windows laptop a few times following their samba walkthrough05:09
kerryxevious: how do i check to see it i got sound?i dont have nothing on the pc05:11
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xeviouskerry: i'm trying to leave, but i don't want to leave you without seeing that you get helped. what you want to do is set up samba on your kubuntu system. you need to install the package samba (using apt-get at the command prompt or adept if you prefer graphics), then configure samba to share a directory either read-only (more secure) or read-write (harder to set up and less secure). if you also install swat, it gives you a web interface to configur05:11
xeviousonfiguration files. read up here: http://kubuntuguide.org/Feisty#Samba_File_Sharing - and google for the samba howto05:11
xeviouskerry: there's a test for your sound card if you click on the K Menu -> System -> Kubuntu Device Database05:12
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xeviouskerry: good luck, read everything carefully (swat has very detailed documentation, but it can be a bit cryptic to new users), and i'll be on tomorrow if you need any more help05:13
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xeviousand when can i get kubuntu affiliation in here? i've helped like a million people in the last week05:13
kerryxevious: it will be 2morow in 45min05:14
xeviouskerry: well i'm going to the bar, so tomorrow means like... tomorrow afternoon05:14
xeviousi'll add you to my buddy list so i can check in on your progress tomorrow05:15
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:15
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crxyemanyone here use rsync ?05:15
Telrothcan anyone give me a list of the default groups that the initial user is in?05:17
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crxyemTelroth : adm, dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, lpadmin, scanner, admin05:18
crxyemat least that what my system has for UID 100005:18
Telroththat's what i was looking for :)05:19
Myrth[home] hi, is it a bug in konqueror: on http://www.opensource.org/licenses/osl-3.0.php it shows in <ol> 6. after 1. ?05:20
clouderMyrth[home] : there's def something wrong.  In my konq it jumps from 1 to 605:23
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Myrth[home] also, all the programs besides ones from kde (kopete for example) open firefox for links. kopete opens them in konqueror. where do i configure it to use firefox?05:24
juanhello all! i have a problem with my kpresenter, it doesn't load any power point presentations05:24
Telrothcrxyem, do you know if I have to do anything special to get it to update group access in terminals ?05:25
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kcs80Myrth[home] : true, that is a bug. and for the firefox, there is "default applications" option on kcontrol where you can set it05:28
Myrth[home] kcs80: thakn you :)05:30
Myrth[home] thank05:30
clouderMyrth[home] : and if kcontrol def app. doesn't work double check to make sure that the application itself isn't choosing to open links in konq over firefox or whatever browser it's using05:32
Myrth[home] clouder: kcontrol worked. couldn't find it in kopete05:33
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clouderMyrth[home] : ahh ok, great ;D05:33
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Myrth[home] there's no link in menus for kcontrol in gutsy right?05:34
Myrth[home] maybe would be nice to have it05:34
crxyemTelroth : can't say that I do05:34
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clouderMyrth[home] : I've yet to try gutsy at all, might want to ask around in ubuntu+1 see if you get anything05:35
Myrth[home] i don't think it was in feisty either :)05:36
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Telrothi don't think they've ever had it05:36
TelrothI simply use the settings applet on my kicker though05:36
Myrth[home] with the latest updates gutsy behaves nice with my laptop05:36
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clouderMyrth[home] : oh, I just assumed k medu system settings was it :X05:36
Telrothit provides a menu with all of kcontrol's applets and a link to kcontrol05:37
Myrth[home] Telroth: you mean System Settings in menu?05:37
clouderoh, is kcontrol like gconf?05:37
Telrothyeah, kinda05:37
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TelrothMyrth[home] , no05:38
Telrothright click on blank space on your kicker05:38
Telrothselect "Add Applets..."05:38
Myrth[home] oh i see05:38
Myrth[home] hate to waste space on my panel :P05:38
Telrothit's just an icon :P05:38
Telroth"Settings Menu"05:39
Telrothkinda like the apple menu on mac OS 905:39
Myrth[home] i like the minimal icon size in quick launcher applet :)05:39
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Telrothone of the few things i liked about that OS05:39
Myrth[home] panel icons are spanning over whole height and same width.. so can't use them efficiently05:39
Telrothi use small, thin bars05:40
stephancan anyone tell me the easiest way to install java and java firefox plugin for kubuntu 7.10?05:40
Telrothsudo apt-get install sub-java5-jdk05:40
Myrth[home] Telroth: i have 3 rows of launcher, tasks and systray05:40
TelrothMyrth[home] , you're not actually supposed to run that much stuff at once :D05:41
TelrothMyrth[home] , then again I don't use the taskbar05:41
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stephanTelroth: it says it cant find that package05:41
Myrth[home] Telroth: you don't??05:41
Telrothberyl's Scale plugin has made a nice replacement for that05:41
Telrothstefan, make sure multiverse and universe repositories are enabled05:42
TelrothI have a thumb button on my mouse05:42
Telrothwhich i have set to activate scale05:42
Telrothmuch, much quicker than task bar05:42
Telrothso task bar wen away :)05:42
clouderoh speaking of taskbar, how do I make alt tab show windows from both of my screens (dual monitor)05:42
Telrothrebind the keys05:43
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clouderI looked in shortcuts I didn't see anything05:43
clouderit said all workspaces but I don't want all workspaces I want all windows from one workspace on two monitors05:44
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Telrothother than that i dunno in kde05:44
Telrothin beryl you can by default05:44
tony134does anyone play openarena?05:44
leileiloli play it      every month!05:44
leileilolonce :(05:44
leileilolwhich is funny because i lead the project lol05:45
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leileiloli actually play other games more than my own05:45
tony134i'm having a problem with openarena not returning to the original resolution or refresh. is that a common problem?05:45
leileiloli have no idea about htat one, sorry :/05:45
tony134i even had the problem on last install05:45
tony134seems a common problem with a few games i run. using a 6800GT05:46
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tony134great game though. i just made a simple script to click on for that problem and it returns me to 1680x105005:46
leileilolcould be your driver configuration, doesn't happen on fglrx (ati)05:47
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leileilolthat doesn't mean it's unsolvable for nvidia though. that's the first time i've heard about this bug05:47
Myrth[home] Telroth: any advantage of beryl over compiz?05:47
leileiloland i do not have a linux box with an nvidia card ready05:47
TelrothMyrth[home] , currently beryl crashes a lot less for me than compiz-fusion05:49
tony134also on video config i can't change resolution sometimes unless i choose either 68 or 67 hertz which my monitor doesn't natively support but works anyhow. that may be the root of the problem05:49
Telroththat and i have yet to figure out how to get compiz-fusion to bind to mouse buttons05:49
Telrothso, despite beryl being discontinued, I still use it05:49
Myrth[home] hmm.. trying to add in adept emerald and it says BREAK (install) why?05:49
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Myrth[home] heliodor too, but aquamarine is ok05:51
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Telrothi dunno05:53
Myrth[home] Telroth: nm :)05:53
Telrothi use trevino's repos05:53
Telrothnever had any trouble with them05:53
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JaearessDoes anyone know what group you have to be part of to access joysticks? I accidently removed myself from all groups and apparently didn't add the one for joysticks back.05:58
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tony134anyone know how to rename images in digikam?06:00
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ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:01
Myrth[home] Telroth: interesting, when i try to move window beryl maximizes width... :)06:02
stephanTelroth: wouldn't i want to be using java6 instead of 5?06:02
TelrothMyrth[home] , can't explain that06:02
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!06:03
Telrothstephan, there's not a *whole* lot of difference between them, but yeah java6 would be slightly better06:03
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Telrothit's realatively new to me to have java6 in the repos so i forget it sometimes06:04
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kerryhow do i dee y xorg file?(/)06:05
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snowdonkeyHey.  I partitioned an external hard drive as FAT32 and one primary partition, but it's not showing up in Kubuntu.06:08
medivhDoes anyone happen to use Karamba? or know of another tool with similar function?06:08
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tony134snowdonkey: did you mount it?06:11
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snowdonkeytony134: No.  I was expecting a dialog to come up like other external devices.  How can I mount manually?06:12
tony134snowdonkey: http://www.google.com/search?q=mount+fat32&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a06:13
tony134snowdonkey: just edit the file and it should automount on startup06:14
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tony134snowdonkey: it's normally done on kubuntu when installing and there's a command that will autodetect and mount, forgot it though06:15
snowdonkeytony134: Which file should I edit?06:15
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snowdonkeytony134: /etc/fstab?06:16
tony134snowdonkey: yep06:16
snowdonkeytony134: Cool, thanks.06:16
tony134snowdonkey: np06:17
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WorkingOnWisecan someone help me decide between kontact and evolution? I was an Outlook user who has had his last freakin windows BSOD! I don't use exchange, but I do use the linking abilities, the scheduling, all the contact abilities, as well as the journaling and task list. Which app gets me closer to those features.06:21
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arrilaserhowdy all06:23
tony134WorkingOnWise: from what i hear, kontact06:23
WorkingOnWiseHi FunnyLookinHat. I remember you from when I tried out Fiesty and had sooooo many ATI/beryl problems...06:23
WorkingOnWiseFunnyLookinHat: Thanks again for all the help.06:23
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arrilaseri have a silly quetion regaurding 2.4ko files and 2.6 loads w/o rebuilds should I go someplavce else06:24
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WorkingOnWisewhat smartphone os syncs well with kontact?06:25
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WorkingOnWisewhat language is koffice written it?06:28
n8k99its written using the Qt toolset, which is written in C++06:29
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FunnyLookinHatWorkingOnWise, lol no worries   : )06:35
MurielGodoi Hi, recently I update my amarok from 1.4.3 to 1.4.7 in Kubuntu 7.04, since that my amarok is freezing and using 100% of cpu during several seconds when I perform a search in my collection. Had anyone faced the same problem?06:36
flaccidthings like that are pretty common06:37
MurielGodoiflaccid: I tried to delete ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok folder,  reinstall the packages,but no success? There is a possible solution for that issue?06:38
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dsmith__has anyone been able to get SD cards working in Ubuntu?06:39
MurielGodoidsmith: My hp laptop has sd slot and it works fine here06:39
dsmith__thats what I have06:41
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dsmith__internal on my hp06:41
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dsmith__MurielGodoi: Did you do anything special?06:41
ubunturosconfiguring the X server while it is on tty7, isn't good?06:42
MurielGodoidsmith_: nothing06:42
ubunturos(from tty1)06:42
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MurielGodoidsmith_: yep06:42
dsmith__my images are from my treo06:43
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dsmith__I dont know the format06:43
dsmith__mybe thats why?06:43
dsmith__did you format the disc?06:43
flaccidMurielGodoi, report it as bug. goto #amarok06:43
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots06:43
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MurielGodoiflaccid: ok thx06:44
dsmith__I like ubuntu takes bug reports06:44
flaccidMurielGodoi, also check that codecs are installed and that no scripts are loaded. its possible an amarok script is causing it. check top to see which process is doing 100%06:44
dsmith__easier then M$06:44
WorkingOnWisecan I cleanly change from Ubuntu AMD64 to Kubuntu AMD64, without needing to reinstall the whole OS?06:44
stdinWorkingOnWise: yeah, just install "kubuntu-desktop" from synaptic and you can choose kde when you login06:45
MurielGodoiflaccid: amarok app is using 98% of my core 2 duo for playing a mp3 file!06:45
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flaccidand is the mp3 file playing06:46
MurielGodoiflaccid: yep... but sometimes it freezes06:46
flaccidyep i would report the bug on launchpad and talk about it in#amarok as well. its these kinds of things that make amarok look amateurish imo06:47
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MurielGodoiflaccid: ok i will do that06:48
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chequershi all, how do I change dolphin to use the more conventional 'double click to open a folder', rather than the single click method?06:52
stdinchequers: System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse06:52
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bwayneso why is it that the Ubuntu gnome desktop seems to get more innovative development that the Kubuntu desktop?06:55
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chequersmore people use it06:56
stdinbecause after a feature is added to ubuntu it has to be ported to kde06:56
stdintakes time and effort06:56
bwayneso is kubuntu not directly supported by Canonical, as Ubuntu is?06:56
chequersit's as official as ubuntu is06:57
stdinit is06:57
joe1If I  got wireless working in ubuntu, will it still work if i load the kde desktop?06:57
stdinyes, the drivers are the same on both06:58
sub[t] rnlnetworkmanager and knetworkmanager are the same thing, so yup06:58
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WorkingOnWiseanyone using kde4? how do you like it compared to 3?06:59
sparr_is there anything that i can put inside a script so that when run, it behaves as if i had passed it through source?07:00
joe1what are the main advantages to kubuntu over ubuntu?07:00
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stdinwell, it has KDE07:00
stdinthat's the main and only difference07:01
ubunturosjoe1: and some things work out of the box for Kubuntu, than Ubuntu07:01
joe1ok, what is the main benefit of kde over gnome?07:01
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stdinjoe1: you'd have to try Gnome and KDE  for yourself to see, it's a preference07:01
sparr_joe1: kde is more poweful.  gnome is easier to use.07:02
flaccidsomebody in ##windows told me flash drives don't use or require partitions, only filesystems. is this true or false?07:02
sparr_flaccid: both07:02
stdinthey don't have to, but neither does a HDD07:02
sparr_flaccid: no drive NEEDS partitions, you could write a filesystem directly to a normal hard drive if you wanted07:03
flaccidi guess thats what i thought07:03
sparr_flaccid: but, if you want to play nice with windows and digital cameras, dont partition flash devices  :)07:03
joe1sparr_: in a nutshell, how is kde more powerful?  what fuetures do like over gnomee?"07:04
stdingeneral discussion in -offtopic, thanks07:04
sparr_joe1: kde offers a LOT of integration.  in particular, the kioslave input/output system allows for any kde application to open files over sftp, smb, ftp, etc07:05
sparr_stdin: the set of conversation outside 'general discussion' and 'things that belong in #ubuntu instead of #kubuntu' is so vanishingly small that it wouldnt actually merit a channel07:06
WorkingOnWisesparr_ do you know what development tools are used for kde and koffice?07:06
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stdinsparr_: if it's not a support question, it does not belong in here07:07
sparr_stdin: 99% of all kubuntu support questions belong in #ubuntu07:07
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stdinsparr_: no, this is kubuntu support for those running kubuntu. some issues are shared with #ubuntu but that doesn't mean they have to be in there07:08
sub[t] rnlstill, support questions are fielded and answered here, as this is what the channel is for07:08
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momalCan someone tell me a good dvdauthoring tool. I need a gui able to add chapters and titles. I need it to support pretty much any format(avi mainly). Please don't say any of the following qdvdauthor, devede, kmediafactory, dvdstyler. Something similar to Nero vision under windows but for linux.07:09
sparr_forbidding general discussion is counter productive.  the channel would be silent, losing the attention of the few people still awake and willing to actually field support questions07:09
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sparr_momal: have you considered nero vision in wine or crossover?07:09
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stdinsparr_: regardless, those are the channel rules07:10
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n8k99 sparr_ not necessarily true as not all timezones are late07:10
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momalsparr_: That would mean I have to pirate nero vision.07:10
helloyocan i launch an application as a different user? kdesu doesn't seem to do this (cannot connect to xserver)07:10
flaccidgui or cli, helloyo ?07:11
sparr_n8k99: and yet channel activity tends to follow us east coast peak times.  we have you outnumbered  :-p07:11
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stdinhelloyo: Alt-F2, Options > Run as a different user07:11
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sparr_helloyo: kdesu sudo -u otherusername commandtorun07:11
sparr_or that  :)07:12
sparr_stdin's way requires you to know the other user's password.  my way requires you to have sudo access to sudo  :)07:12
joe1sparr_:so with wine can you run  very many windows programs?07:12
flaccidfirst 1 is most harmless07:12
helloyosparr_, flaccid, stdin: thanks, the alt+f2 method did the trick07:12
sparr_joe1: yes.  between 10% and 90%, depending on your field  :)07:13
sparr_having sudo access to sudo is actually a Bad Thing, imho, but i believe debian and ubuntu ship with it enabled07:13
MurielGodoiflaccid: That problem should be related to package managament stuff07:13
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sparr_a good thing to bring up in #ubuntu  :)07:13
MurielGodoiflaccid: a guy in #amarok told me to update libxine and libxine and libxine-extracodecs07:14
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MurielGodoiflaccid: so i realized that i hadn't the package libxine1-kde installed07:14
MurielGodoiafter i install that pakage and libxine-extracodecs, all problem seens be solved here07:15
flaccidyeah thats what i said first MurielGodoi . you said it was playing the mp3 so... but maybe you did a manual upgrade and neglected to update the codecs?07:15
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flaccidan mp3 would not be able to play without libxine-extracodecs or equiv07:16
MurielGodoiat first I installed ubuntu and afterthat I install kde-desktop package07:16
MurielGodoiand did all apt-get update/upgrade07:17
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flaccidyeah first thing i said was codecs, but thats cool. if they were not installed it should actually have said an error and not do 100% cpu..07:17
MurielGodoiI guess if can the package libxine1-kde be out of kde-desktop dependences?07:18
flaccidits not07:18
flaccid!info libxine-extracodecs07:18
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB07:18
flaccidtotally optional07:18
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MurielGodoii agree about libxine-extracodecs... but and about libxine1-kde?07:19
flaccid!info libxine1-kde07:19
ubotulibxine1-kde: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 42 kB, installed size 92 kB07:19
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stdinhmm, I don't have libxine1-kde installed on my feisty system and amarok plays mp3s fine07:20
MurielGodoistdin: do you use kde or gnome?07:21
stdinhow dare you ask :p07:21
flaccidi don't know if i cbf to find the answer lol packages.ubuntu.com aint loading for me and im on windows lol07:21
MurielGodoistdin : sorry about that :/ I am not a english naitive speaker...07:22
MurielGodoistdin: Wasn't my intention be rude07:23
flaccidhe was just doing a joke haha07:23
flaccidseems like libxine1-kde just has more kde specific xine libs including libarts07:24
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flaccidmaybe its a better suited pkg for kubuntu than libxine-extracodecs, not sure07:25
Scunizihow do I get flash working in konquerer?07:25
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MurielGodoiokay :)07:25
holycowanyone here setup the kde4 test environment in the topic?07:25
holycowdoes that work on gutsy?07:25
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acee1235amarok wont play mp3's in kubuntu 7.10 any ideas?07:25
MurielGodoiacee1235:I know that one :)07:25
acee1235MurielGodoi: solution?07:26
MurielGodoiacee1235: Install libxine-extracodecs package07:26
acee1235MurielGodoi: how07:26
flaccid!adept | acee123507:26
ubotuacee1235: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:26
stdinacee1235: it's "libxine1-ffmpeg" actually07:26
MurielGodoiacee1235: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs in sheel07:26
acee1235use sudo apt-get instal...right07:26
flaccidwell libxine1-ffmpeg is a dep yeah07:27
Scunizidoes libxine-extracodecs enable flash?07:27
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ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash07:27
stdin!info libxine-extracodecs gutsy07:27
flaccidnope Scunizi07:27
ubotuPackage libxine-extracodecs does not exist in gutsy07:27
ubotukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts07:27
stdinno libxine-extracodecs in gutsy07:27
flaccidmeh im out of touch, coz i just went to a new employer that uses windows heh07:28
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NickPrestaI thought gutsy had a new metapackage for all the extra codecs (audio, video, etc)?07:28
wightstrakerHey all, I have a problem I hope you could help me with07:29
hangthedjkubuntu-restricted-extras i think07:29
flaccidi guess #ubuntu+107:29
acee1235MurielGodoi:  no good and package that "replaced it" doesn twork07:29
stdinacee1235: the package "libxine1-ffmpeg" is the package that lets amarok play mp3s, make sure you restart amarok after it's installed to take effect07:30
wightstrakerI had to reconfigure xorg.conf in order to get my monitor to display the proper resolution, however every time I logout and log back in it doesn't remember any of the changes I made07:30
wightstrakerSo I have to reconfigure every time I log in07:30
wightstrakerAny ideas?07:30
gunashekar i was adviced to install the latest drivers for alsa. I have downloaded it , can anyone tell me how to install?07:31
acee1235stdin: i did that, installed restared amarok still no go07:31
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acee1235stdin: is there something in amarok that i need to change configure or enable?07:32
stdinacee1235: shouldn't be, to make sure look in the settings and make sure it's using xine engine07:32
flaccidhow did you configure X, wightstraker07:34
acee1235 stdin: it is using it still no go07:34
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kaoI am a Ubuntu user - can anyone direct me to a site where I can get some advice re-open office 2.2?07:34
wightstrakerflaccid: in safe restart, recovery mode, sudo mpkg-reconfigure xserve-xorg07:35
wightstrakerflaccid: I tried it both as root and as a user07:35
wightstrakerflaccid: but when I switch to regular startup I get no signal until I reconfigure07:36
flaccidum not sure whtas going on there. but i would but up normal and then goto tty2 then kill kdm then configure x then restart kdm, if it fails, check logs07:37
flaccidbut up = boot up07:37
flaccidat least this way you can see log and problem. and instead of starting kdm after new xorg.conf, you could alternatively do startx and see the problem in standard out on screen07:38
wightstrakerThanks flaccid07:39
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wightstrakerI'll keep experimenting07:39
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flaccidwightstraker, check log first: cat /var/log/X.org.0.log or whatever it is07:42
lachlanhello does anybody know how to get compiz fusion working in 7.10?07:42
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flaccidwhat version is 7.1007:43
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flaccidis that gutsy  - see #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-effects07:43
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flaccidits native and is meant to work out of box heh07:44
lachlando you know the command to start it?07:44
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flaccidcan't remember sorry, but those chans will advise07:44
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flaccidi've had it going, but yeah gutsy still in dev too07:45
lachlani have found a tutorial butits for 7.1007:46
flaccidsounds about right07:49
flaccidah well07:52
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sstchurI recently installed kubuntu 7.10 rc.  I did it as a clean install on my /dev/sda1 partition.  I specifically left my dev/sda3 partition alone as that is where all my personal data is.  However, I forgot to mount /dev/sda3 as /home when I was doing the install.  Is that easy to change after the fact?07:57
flaccidchange what07:59
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions07:59
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helloyoanyone have trouble with video playback in 7.10 (fast forward not working well)?08:01
flaccidhelloyo, #ubuntu+108:02
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sstchurSo I managed to change my /home back to /dev/sda3, but with it came all of my old KDE settings, which I actually /don't want/.  Is there a way I can keep /home on my old partition, but sort of start all over configuring KDE?  b/c I liked the new look that 7.10 had, but I'm not seeing any of it not that my old settings are being picked up08:13
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NickPrestaheh, thanks SportChick08:34
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sstchurif I wanted to reformat one of my partitions (ext3), what would be the best way to do this?  Is that a disk management utility, or is command line the best way to go ?08:40
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shindahope someones still here, anyways trying to update system so it can deal with new ipod nano's so I upgraded libgpod, just wondering would I also need to then upgrade amarok by recompiling it so that it also uses the new library when interfacing with the ipod?08:44
Tm_Tshinda: prolly not08:44
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shindaTm_T just wondering because I've been having problems throughout and I rember seeing some docs about how RhythemBox needed to be re-installed08:45
chalcedonyi broke xsane, i can't get it to come into focus, does anyone know what it's called to kill it?08:46
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usserchalcedony: ps -Al | grep xsane08:49
ussernote the pid08:49
chalcedonyusser: ty08:49
usserand then do sudo kill pid08:49
usserwhere pid is a pid of xsane08:49
chalcedony0 S  1009 28907     1  0  75   0 - 61962 -      ?        00:00:14 xsane08:50
chalcedonywhich number is it?08:50
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chalcedonyi'm getting a device busy error08:55
chalcedonywont restart xsane08:55
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CH1PHow to update kernel without internet?08:56
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sstchurhow do I copy my home directory to a new partition, making sure to get all necessary files and symlinks and stuff?08:59
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Alamue2Any issues with Kubuntu running on the same RAID 0 array as windows in Dual boot?09:21
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chequerscan anyone recommend / advise of package manager guis that have a search function?09:22
helloyochequers: not adept?09:22
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checkersI'm wondering if there are alternatives mostly09:23
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anfaengerguten morgen...09:25
anfaengerich sitze voelloig verzweifelt vor meinen rechner.09:26
anfaengerbin neuling und suche hilfe.09:26
anfaengerjemand da der mir helfen kann ?09:26
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octetanfaenger not to kick you off, but I think channel kubuntu-de is a german language channel, it is common to use english here09:32
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octetbut if you let me answer in english, i'll try to help you although i am a novice as well09:35
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anfaengeroctet thanks...09:35
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anfaengeri made some changes in my system and got into big trouble now..09:36
anfaengeri am new to kubuntu..09:36
anfaengerafter start a erreo is coming witch say error:/system09:36
anfaengera same erroe for trash09:36
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anfaengerapt is not working = erroe that another session of apt is running what i dont understand and can't find witch one09:37
anfaengerany idea of help for me?09:37
checkersanfaenger, if your install is new, consider reinstalling09:37
anfaengerit is not new... but i would lke to install it again but without loosing the old data09:38
blekoshi, i'm about to switch 2 linux 95% of my works, my problem is how to backup my email. I'm using kontact and have found tutorials on the internet which did not do any good on my last crash09:38
blekosis there a way to have all mails in one place like outlook's pst file?09:39
blekoswhat is the difference between mbox & mdir?09:39
octetanfaenger do you have separate partitions for / and /home?09:39
anfaengersorry i dont have octet.09:40
xeviousblekos: mbox is most similar to outlook's pst file: one file with all your mail in it. maildir is a directory with separate files for each email09:40
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blekosthnx xevious09:41
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octetangaenger, don't be sorry for me, be sorry for yourself ;-)09:42
octetFor next time it works better to have them separated, then you can reinstall and don't reformat your home partition, and so retaining your old data09:42
anfaengergot it octet..09:43
xeviousoctet: a way to save all your stuff, assuming everything you want to keep is in your home directory, is to boot to a live CD, remove everything except /home (remember to do ls -a to get anything starting with a .), and install without formatting the partition09:43
octetThat doesn't help you now thought, can you backup all data09:43
xeviousoctet: what filesystem are you using?09:43
octetxevious: I am using ext3 (but I am not the one in trouble)09:44
anfaengeri understood that i do have to reinstall right???09:44
xeviousanfaenger: refer to what i just said to octet09:45
anfaengera good friend installed it to me and i affraid to reinstall it.09:45
xeviousand anfaenger: what filesystem are you using?09:45
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xeviousyou could shrink your / partition down (easiest / most user-friendly way is using something like gparted), create a new partition for your /home data and start gradually moving the contents of /home into that new partition09:46
anfaengerxevious that all sounds great.. but kubuntu is black magic to me..09:47
xeviousuhoh. i wish i wasnt drunk09:47
anfaengereven though i dont know hot to install the amba and even the graphics card...09:47
xeviousi coudl help you much better09:47
sub[t] rnlxevious! u too?09:47
sub[t] rnl:D09:47
xevious!offtopic :D09:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about offtopic :d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:48
anfaengeri thought there is any way to settle it in the apt management ..09:48
sub[t] rnllol09:48
xeviouswe should teach ubotu that !offtopic :d = refer to !offtopic, when drunk09:48
anfaengeri was already lucky that i got back my kdesktop via apt-get funktion09:49
xeviousanfaenger: i bet there is09:49
xeviousanfaenger: you're in germany?09:49
anfaengeri am german, but living in china09:49
xeviousoh. even worse09:49
xeviousour time zones dont match up at all09:49
xeviouswhat time will it be there in 9-10 hours?09:49
anfaenger3 in morning...09:50
xeviousit's 4 in the morning here :)09:50
sub[t] rnlxevious go to bed09:50
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anfaengerso california somewhere??09:50
xeviousi'll be able to focus then...09:50
xeviousconnecticut, opposite side of the states09:50
xeviouscali is 1am-ish right now09:50
anfaengergot it...09:50
xevioussub[t] rnl: where are you?09:50
sub[t] rnlmizzouri09:50
sub[t] rnlsmack in the middle09:51
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xeviousi need to do a sweep of asia at some point09:51
anfaengeri try it in the german chat...09:51
xeviousyes, and good luck09:51
xeviousotherwise, sign on at around 3 or 4am and i'll be glad to help you out09:51
anfaengerthanks again...09:52
xeviousi just really can't use logic right now :)09:52
anfaengergot it ;)09:52
xeviousanfaenger: well apt says there's an instance already running? run ps auxw|grep apt|grep -v grep at a terminal and paste it into a pastebin09:52
octetanfaenger: final call: can you backup to another media09:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:52
xeviouswell. that actually shouldn't output more than a line or two, so paste it in here09:53
xeviousif that doesnt give any results, do ps auxw|grep -i adept|grep -v grep09:54
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lucahi everyone09:54
xevioushi luca09:54
xeviousoh he left09:55
lucacan someone help me please hacking a bit knetworkmanager? :)09:55
xeviousnot i, i disabled it09:57
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wersif I am on feisty, is it okay for me to use a 3rd party repo for edgy or dapper?10:02
xeviouswers: why do you need to?10:05
wersthere's no feisty epo10:05
xeviousfor which software?10:06
wersokay... I'm going to be honest. there is no gutsy repo for opensync.. I'm on gutsy.. dont worry, I'm also trying #ubuntu+110:09
xeviousthere's no reason to lie here10:10
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Tm_Twers: =)10:10
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wersI said, "if I am on feisty".. I was just trying to inquire about repo problems in general.. hehe10:11
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Hamragood morning people10:12
xeviouswers: now, i use feisty, but this page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/i386/+search?text=opensync seems to think there's opensync in gutsy10:12
Hamrais there a way of letting opera browser use kde wallet?10:12
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wersI was thinking of adding the repo, xevious, but I need the repo for a package that is not included in the official repos10:16
wersI need the synce plugin10:16
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xeviouswers: unfortunately i'm just blindly digging around on launchpad, but: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/i386/synce-kde/0.9.1-1ubuntu210:17
xeviousor just https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/i386/+search?text=synce for an overview10:18
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xeviousi'm gonna have a cigarette and go to bed10:18
wersthank you very much xevious, but I really couldnt get synce-kde to work10:19
wersbeen trying that almost half-a-year already10:19
xeviousyou know i've never even plugged my handspring into a computer10:20
wersxevious: yeah.. PIM junkie here10:20
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wersfound a deb for the plugin I need..10:22
wersthings ran..10:22
wersuntil I saw no successful syncing10:22
wersmy epic syncing journey isn't over yet.. wowwww10:23
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xeviouswers: good luck.10:24
xeviouscig, cup'o'water, bed10:24
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xeviousi'll be back tomorrow to help out, anfaenger.  also i'm gonna be bothering kde/compiz-fusion users for tips10:25
xeviouspeace out folks10:25
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anfaengerthanks xevious10:26
xeviousanfaenger: regarding the apt is already running thing, open a konsole and check the output of ps auxw|grep -i apt|grep -v grep10:27
xeviousanfaenger: under normal conditions you shouldn't see anything from that command10:27
xeviousanfaenger: if you do, kill it10:27
xeviousanfaenger: also check ps auxw|grep -i adept|grep -v grep10:27
lucaxevious: about kde/compiz fusion ask away :)10:28
xeviousanfaenger: i have two processes showing from that second command: adept_notifier running under my username and kio_file [kdeinit]  file /tmp/ksocket-root/klaunchersH0Bha.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-root/adept_updaterk41j3a.slave-socket10:29
xeviousanfaenger: if you see any others, they probably can be killed10:29
anfaengerxevious, i did that and this works now..10:29
anfaengeri also installed dpkg files ...10:29
xeviousanfaenger: your installation working now?10:29
anfaengeri have trouble still on my desktop....10:29
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xeviousluca: tomorrow. i need sleep. but thanks for offering!10:30
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anfaengerthe folder icons dont open a folder even the data is on the harddisk10:30
xeviousanfaenger: what did you do to your installation??10:30
anfaengeri wanted to clean some unused progs..10:30
anfaengerbut seems i deinstalled a important part of kubuntu10:30
xeviousanfaenger: uhoh. cleaned some used ones you didn't realize, huh?10:31
wersHmm.. Kitchensync says that the status of my KDE Pim plugin is "Error: Broken Pipe"10:31
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lucaxevious np10:31
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anfaengeri eben dont know where to search for this question :(10:32
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xeviousanfaenger: open adept and check if kubuntu-desktop is installed10:32
xeviousanfaenger: if it isn't, install it10:32
xeviousor if you can't get to adept, do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:32
anfaengeri have the desktop... but kdesktop10:32
anfaengerlooks like it is not installed the right way!10:33
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anfaengeri am downloading the package10:33
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xeviousalso check the package kde-core10:34
anfaengerhow to check the packages?10:34
anfaengeror just install it?10:34
xeviousthis is going to reinstall some of those unused packages, but it'll probably fix your problems10:34
xeviousanfaenger: are you using adept (the graphical installer)?10:34
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anfaengerat present i use apt...10:35
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xeviousi would just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and kde-core10:35
xeviousapt-get install kubuntu-desktop kde-core10:35
anfaengergot it xevious..10:35
xeviousanfaenger: possibly kubuntu-default-settings too10:35
anfaengerkubuntu desktop is already running10:35
anfaengeri'll do that10:36
xeviousanfaenger: what do you mean? that you are in a graphical environment, or did apt say that the package kubuntu-desktop is already installed10:36
anfaengerapt is installing kubuntu-desktop..10:37
anfaengeri knew that my trouble was coming from the desktop, but i installed kdestktop not kubuntu-desktop10:37
xeviousi would check that kde-core and kubuntu-default-settings are installed too10:38
anfaengeryes... i just see konquerror and so on will be installed new now.10:38
anfaengeri lost all hat stuff.10:38
xeviousi'm about to fall asleep at the computer, i hope this works for you10:39
anfaengeri hope so...10:39
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anfaengerhave a good sleep my friend..10:39
anfaengergreeting to conneticut10:39
anfaengerand many many thnaks..10:39
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anfaengeri guess that will work for me.10:39
xeviousanfaenger: send me a private message if it works10:39
anfaengerdont know to where ...10:39
ubotukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts10:40
anfaengergive me ur mail or msn please10:40
xevioushere, on irc, type /msg xevious it worked!10:40
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xeviousi'll see it when i wake up tomorrow and smile10:40
ubotuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts10:40
anfaengerfirst of all have sweet dreams xevious10:40
xeviousi plan on it :) thanks10:41
anfaengerseems that u sleep alone...10:41
xevioustonight i do10:41
anfaengergirls would beat u into the bed already :)10:41
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anfaengerat least they are same everywhere around the world10:42
xeviouswhat? crazy?10:42
xeviousoh ok.10:42
xevious:D :D10:42
anfaengerok than sweet drams10:43
xeviousthanks again, friend. i hope your troubles are fixed soon.10:43
anfaengeru may email me at koelmann@gmx.de10:43
xeviouswow. my last name is coleman10:43
anfaengerour grandparents brothers ???10:44
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xeviousi come from the irish O'Colmain10:44
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DarkEarthciao a tutti10:45
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anfaengerprivate message is blocked for me..10:46
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anfaengerbut i will let u know by email10:46
xeviousoh ok10:46
xeviouswell i just sent you a bunch of private messages :)10:46
anfaengeri see them.10:47
xeviousthat's good10:47
anfaengerand i will ask ...10:47
anfaengerin kubuntu or probably you :)10:47
xeviousright on10:47
anfaengerthanks again...10:47
xeviousyou're welcome10:47
Road_killhey guys10:47
xeviousmy pleasure10:47
Road_killI have a short script10:47
Road_killksystraycmd thunderbird %u10:48
Road_killamarok %10:48
ducciohi all...i want upgrade kubuntu from Feisty to Gutsy RC but...the button "full upgrade" doesn't work...some ideas?10:48
xevioushave a good day.. night... whatever it is in china10:48
Road_killDo you guys know why the thunderbird line, prevents amarok from running?10:48
Road_killWhen I close thunderbird, then it Amarok runs.10:48
pagRoad_kill, try adding & at the end of TB line10:48
anfaengerthanks xevious.. here is  in afternoon10:48
xeviousduccio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f5210:48
xeviousover and out.10:48
anfaengerbye bye!!10:49
Road_killpag: PERFECT! do you know what %u means?10:49
pagRoad_kill, nope. I'd say nothing too important, but it's just my guess.10:49
Road_killpag: Thanks :)10:50
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duccioxevious:yes...i follow the istruction in this page but when i "fetch updates" the botton "full upgrade" don't became highlighted10:50
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thomaswhat do I install to get my laptop specific hotkeys to work?10:54
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thomasworked perfectly in feisty10:54
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thomasbut after upgrade to gutsy some died :/10:54
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hangthedj!gutsy | thomas10:56
ubotuthomas: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information10:56
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thomashangthedj: yeah, well I tried there, but to no avail10:59
ducciohi all...i want upgrade kubuntu from Feisty to Gutsy RC but...the button "full upgrade" doesn't work...some ideas?11:00
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hangthedjthomas, k11:00
hangthedjthomas, what kind of laptop do you have?11:00
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anfaengermsg xevious It works. Thanks a lot for yyour support and have sweet dreams.11:05
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Hamraany one know how to let opera web browser use kde wallet?11:08
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michael__hallo !11:15
michael__gibt es hier auch einen deutschen kanal11:15
llutz!de | michael__11:16
ubotumichael__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:16
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erhello everyone :)11:18
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eri just installed kubuntu (RC) and would like to fix the menus (additional text that needs to be removed). Does anybody know how to do that?11:19
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pager, what additional text? you mean like Amarok - Music player etc.?11:21
DevideZeroin kubuntu 7.10 compiz fusion will auto matic installed and enabled ? ( even on the live cd ) ?11:21
WaltzingAlongDevideZero: if the underlying hardware can support it, yes11:21
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erpag: no, there seams to be some bug (the menus have really long descriptions (after an update)11:21
erlike so: Entries in L Menu: Speed Crunch App Name, Calculator11:22
WaltzingAlong!gutsy | er11:23
ubotuer: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information11:23
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erok, thanks :)11:23
DevideZerook my question is if all the things that are new in ubuntu ( and the arent gnome's things ) will be also in kubuntu 7.10 ?11:23
erone last thing: are the 3d desktop settings working and if yes, how do i enable that?11:23
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Linux_Galorethis will sound like a spam advert but it isnt, but someone has made available over 400 fonts for Ubuntu 100% free (legally) that they have created http://crunchbang.org/archives/2007/10/13/465-free-fonts-for-ubuntu/11:24
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eranyone uses virtualbox?11:27
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hangthedjer, not often11:27
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erhangthddj: what else do i need  to install to get the virutal box kernel sources? (i have only virtualbox-ose and virtualbox modules generic installed but can't use the app)11:28
hangthedjare you using the archive.cannonical.com repos?11:29
erhmmm good question11:29
erjust what ever was enabled at the time of install11:29
eri saw that is was version 1.511:29
erwhich is the latest11:29
hangthedjer, well? how did you get virtualbox?11:29
eradept manager11:29
hangthedjer, feisty?11:30
ergutsy gibbon11:30
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eri just downloaded the 7.10 RC today11:30
hangthedjok, just 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox' and it should work.11:30
erahhh, just like in the good old days ;) thanks :)11:31
hangthedjer, also try asking in #ubuntu+111:31
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DevideZerokubuntu 7.10 will automatic detect the printers that connected to my pc ? ( i have canon pixma ip500 ) ?11:42
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waylandbillDevideZero: use the kde printing wizard in system settings.11:46
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filemoverhi ive just installed mplayer and i get the following error message when trying to play any file. "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device" can anyone help thnx11:55
DevideZerowaylandbill , i know but in 7.04 there wasnt my printer model ( may be it too old ) and now more printer are supported ? ( canon pixma ip1500 exist in the kde printers wizard ?)11:56
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ardchoilleDevideZero: That is not a definite list. Other printers could be supported and just not in the list. The list is of known supported printers. It's not written in stone.11:57
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DevideZeroardchoille , ok so how i can know if my printer is supported ( without to install and config drivers )11:59
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ardchoilleYou have to install it and see. Then if you find it is supported, contact the folks who made the list and let them know they can add another printer to the list. That's how those lists get larger.12:00
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level1hi, guidance-power-manager for kde may be causing my computer to suspend twice every time.  I can't prevent it starting on startup, how do I do that?12:01
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filemoverhi has anyone been able to compile handbrake the DVD to avi ripping took12:15
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Linux_Galorefilemover: Ive been using dvdrippomatic12:17
Linux_Galorefilemover: its free12:17
Linux_Galoreand FOSS12:17
filemoverdoes it encode the videos as well12:18
filemoverwhat about encoding directly from the vob's12:18
filemoverinto xvid12:18
filemoverill give it a go anyway thnx12:19
filemoverthat looks pretty simple12:20
filemoverill give it a go12:20
Linux_Galorevery simple12:20
Linux_Galorefilemover: k3b will also ripp dvd's12:21
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filemoveris there a deb package for it12:25
filemoveraptitude show dvdripomatic  doesnt show anything12:26
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Pete__How do I go about hiding the user list for kdm in gusty?12:27
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waylandbill!info k9copy12:28
ubotuk9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0~beta2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 649 kB, installed size 1764 kB12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdbroken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixautomount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:29
runleveltenDoes anybody already know of something which breaks CD/DVD mounts in feisty?12:29
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runleveltenI'm kind of snowed under with work and don't have time to investigate further than I have, so if anyone's able to say "ah yeah, happens all the time, it's x,y,z" ...12:30
runlevelten...I'd appreciate it12:30
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Pete__runlevelten: Can't say I know, is it only automounting thats broken, or mounting in general?12:32
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runleveltenboth with the dvd drive12:32
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runleveltenworks fine in opensuse etc.12:32
runleveltentrouble is I work in kubuntu right now, heh12:32
Pete__Has it worked at all in feisty?12:32
runleveltenYeah I've installed software so I guess it must have done12:33
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Pete__I know of some people who have been able to boot/install laptops in feisty from CD, but the cd drive disappears after install12:34
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Pete__I presume its something to do with there being no module there that supports it, apparently it works in gusty for them12:35
Pete__This is not your case though, right?12:35
runleveltenyeah, something's not right, I've checked the obvious stuff but I'm in one of those situations where12:35
runleveltenI'm mister octopus arms and haven't the time to troubleshoot, heh12:36
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runleveltenYay @ konqueror though, I can get at the files very quickly :)12:36
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runleveltenNot massively bothered either, If I can pull this off and get everything signed off by tommorrow lunchtime I'm buying myself a new computer. I'll worry about it if it does it on that too12:38
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Sonerhttp://www.stormofcash.com/index.php?ref=ezis15 EARN REALL MONEY ON E-GOLD!!!12:39
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LegolasVhello, is there someone here who can help me with a (fn) hotkey problem? (for the power manager on a dell notebook on kubuntu)12:42
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pretoriatheres any one here?12:50
nacholibreHow can I see which line is in use in pico?12:50
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nacholibreHi Pretoria.12:50
Hamrawhen i try to start sharing, it says NFS and SMB server not installed, what is the name of the package rerquired?12:50
pretoriafirst i want to say that i dont speek english very well ;)12:50
nacholibreHamra : INstall samba12:50
pretoriaand second12:51
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nacholibreIt works just with samba ;)12:51
pretoriaanyone here knows about a repo with updated snapshots of kde4?12:51
pretorianewer than beta 212:51
Hamraok, thnx12:51
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flaviahi, how do I login as a different user in konsole?01:01
SSJ_GZpretoria: Beta3 will be coming soon (tomorrow probably) - I'd imagine that the Kubuntu devs would have packages available relatively soon after that.01:01
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nacholibreSTRG *01:05
nacholibre+ F1, F2, F3, F401:05
damianosI have a question about synchronization in kde for ff01:07
damianosfor gg sorry01:07
damianosI used evolution01:07
damianosbut I switched to kubuntu01:08
damianosand I can not use any synchronization tool for kde01:08
tazzi did a netinstall of kubuntu but now that os is taking too long to boot, it took more then 50 min to boot into single user mode. Trying to troubleshoot any one, has an idea what could be the culprit here?01:08
damianosis there eny equivalent in kde fo evolution ?01:08
tazzoh its kubuntu 7.10 btw01:08
LegolasVdamianos: evolution is mail right?01:09
damianosnot only01:09
damianosI know that i can use kontact - I would like to use it01:09
LegolasVdamianos: ok, well evolution should also work under KDE, but native KDE is Kontact01:09
damianosbut I can not synchronize it with my nokia phone via bluetooth01:09
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damianosI read in net there is kitschensync but this package was removed from 7.1001:10
damianosI am looking for support for syncml in 7.10 kubuntu01:10
LegolasVhm, well I don't have any bluetooth devices, so I'm not sure about how it works, but I do know there is a synchronisation tooling for kontact01:11
damianoswhich one ?01:12
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damianosLegolasV: which one is for sychronisation ?01:14
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LegolasVdamianos: does opensync work for you? there is (apart from kitchensync) another gui client for it as I can remember01:15
damianosbut i need plugin for opensync in kontact01:16
LegolasVdamianos: look for the packages on opensync-plugin-kdepim opensync-plugin-syncml01:16
damianosI as understand kitchensync is/was this kind of plugin01:16
damianosok thanks for tips01:16
LegolasVkdepim is kontact01:16
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faLUCEhi. do you know any audio APE converter? thnks01:21
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KubuntuHi Is here a man who can help med01:40
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Kubuntui have problems with my bluetooch01:41
Ditte_it's official: I hate Kubuntu01:41
Ditte_it "forgot" my vieo driver01:41
Ditte_I'm now running at 640X48001:42
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pag!fixres | Ditte_01:42
ubotuDitte_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:42
Kubuntui have alsp problem with my  Tvtuner Card'01:42
KubuntuIs Here a Smart Man Who Can HELP mE ???01:44
pag!patience | Kubuntu01:45
ubotuKubuntu: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:45
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KubuntuIs her a man who have time and whant to help me ? :o)01:48
WaltzingAlongfaLUCE: wine01:50
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WaltzingAlong!ask | Kubuntu01:51
ubotuKubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:51
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TimSWhats a good VNC viewer and server?01:56
kerrycan someone help me to install my drivers for my ati card?i dont know hat ati card i have because it built in the motherboard.help please01:56
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX01:56
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Ditte_ok, so I am still at 640X480, and Linux froze twice when I did the X thing01:57
Ditte_impressive, I'd never seen kubuntu freeze01:57
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Ditte_now, I hate it even more01:57
kerrycan someone help me to install my drivers for my ati card?i dont know hat ati card i have because it built in the motherboard.help please01:58
filemovertry looking at the hardware on your system with lspci01:58
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Ditte_filemover: it says VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 01df (rev a1)02:00
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Ditte_I swear it knew it just yesterday02:00
Ditte_how can an OS just *forget* a driver?02:00
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kerryDitte_: i have a Radeon Xpress 200 is it good enought to run beryl?02:01
filemovernVidia is the video card I think02:01
Ditte_kerry: erh...beg your pardon?02:01
filemoverin mine it says Intel Corporation 82915G02:01
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filemovernVidia is the driver02:02
kerryDitte_: i have a ati Radeon Xpress 200 is it good enought to run beryl?02:02
filemoverdo you know if youve got an intel chipset02:02
Ditte_kerry: aside from the obvious answer "beryllium silicate", what is beryl?02:03
filemoverI cant see how you can be talking to me now if your drivers are stuffed up02:03
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kerryDitte_: o.O are u a noob?02:03
filemoverchipset drivers that it02:03
Ditte_filemover: it's only the video driver...and I'm talking to you in 640 X 480. It's SO annoying02:04
filemoveri see02:04
Ditte_kerry: definitely. Newbie and full of murderous rage02:04
filemoveryou want to extend the range of your resolution02:04
filemoverwait i had to do this myself02:04
kerryDitte_: change your resolution02:04
Ditte_filemover: I'd love that02:04
filemoverone sec ill have to dig arround a biit ok02:05
Ditte_kerry: I Can't. It says 640X480 is the highest I can get02:05
Ditte_run fine on 1024 X 768 until yesterday night02:05
kerryDitte_: lolthat happen to me once i forgo how i fix that02:05
kerryDitte_: i'll see if i can find how i did it02:06
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Ditte_kerry: just my luck...everybody and everything keeps forgetting shit around me:)02:06
Ditte_even my grandfather asked me "which sister are you again?"02:07
RivaeAeryaIs it safe to update to Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon?02:07
filemoverok Ditte_ im looking at a guide for ubuntu but the same applies your have to reconfigure the xserver02:07
filemoverill send the url02:08
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kerryDitte_: for me to look it up i'll have to log in on my other pc a look at the history it might take like 15mins or so02:08
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RivaeAeryaIs it safe to update to Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon?02:08
filemoverits not hard to do this at all02:08
Ditte_filemover: erh, thanks, I'll see if I can manage to read it at this resolution02:09
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filemoverthats the point02:10
filemoverthey tell u to use the terminal to do it all02:10
Ditte_god...I can see half a paragraph at a time02:10
Ditte_this'll take hours02:10
filemoverheres another guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:11
Ditte_at the end of which I won't have understood anything02:11
squidyhi.. i've copied a menu from previews konqueror servicemenus to actual dolphin servicemenus folder.. but it's not appearing in the dolphin menu..02:11
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squidydoesn't dolphin compatible with konqueror servicemenu files?02:12
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filemoverDittte_ u got the terminal open there02:13
fdovingsquidy: should be, doesn't the actions appear on the right panel?02:13
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attunixHi. How do I import a non-DVI file into Kino?02:13
filemoveru got the terminal open02:13
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squidyfdoving: doesn't appear..02:14
fdovingsquidy: you can try to run 'kbuildsycoca' without sudo from a konsole,then restart dolphin.02:14
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squidyfdoving: no, i can't02:14
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squidysorry.. lemme see02:15
squidyi did it.. but nothing appears yet.. :(02:16
fdovingthen i'm out of ideas. sorry.02:16
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filemoverDitte_  you can fix it two ways the first is by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  in which case youll be prompted for the values and settings you want to apply In the second case you can edit the xorg.conf file directly but you have to get the right setting02:16
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squidyfdoving: do you know the format of the both files (konqueror and dolphin) are same?02:17
kerryDitte_: did u find how to get back your resolution?02:17
filemoveri reckon hes overwritten the xorg.conf file somehow02:18
kerrytigeroar: lol02:18
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ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 02:18
attunix!cn | tigeroar02:18
ubotutigeroar: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk02:18
kerrytigeroar: ^^02:18
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attunixtigeroar, ?02:18
filemoverwtf does that say02:18
attunixtigeroar: Ni hao02:19
kerryfilemover: lol02:19
attunixkerry: I speak Chinese :)02:19
attunixIt's Chinese02:19
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filemovercould have fooled me02:19
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kerryfilemover: he sait k.m.a02:19
Ditte_aaaaall right02:19
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Ditte_wisdom for future generations: if your VGA cable sits loose, Kubuntu forgets your video driver02:20
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attunixtigeroar: 02:20
filemoverDitte_ hows it going there02:20
kerryattunix: no i dont speak it02:20
Ditte_if you fasten it, the video driver reappears and your mouse stops working02:20
tigeroarwhere are you ?02:20
attunixlol Chinese in the English chat :P02:21
filemoverspeak f----'n english02:21
Ditte_filemover: fine: I fastened the VGA cable and it went back to working normally. Maybe it was just a coincidence02:21
pag!en | tigeroar, attunix02:21
ubotutigeroar, attunix: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat02:21
attunixtigeroar: 02:21
kerryDitte_: so your resolution came back then02:21
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attunixtigeroar: #kubuntu-cn02:21
Ditte_hey, it actually shows chinese characters. Cool02:21
filemovermight be something to do with one of the pins and the way your monitor was detected02:22
tigeroarattunix : thanks02:22
Ditte_kerry: yup, without beryl. Or corundum:)02:22
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk02:22
kerryDitte_: ho long u on linux?02:22
attunixtigeroar: #ubuntu-cn :P02:22
Ditte_filemover: I thought monitor and VGA card were independent, but, well, I'm a newbie02:22
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tigeroarattunix,#ubuntu-cn 02:23
Ditte_kerry: well, theoretically 1.5 years, but practically I have two OS, and usually use win200002:23
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filemoverthe monitor settings have to be detected for the X server to have the right screen resolution02:23
filemoveri think they can be manually entered into the xorg.conf file but you have to have all of the info for your hardware02:24
kerryDitte_: win 2000 why not xp get rid of 2000.and 1.5 years on linux and u dont know beryl or copiz?02:24
Ditte_filemover: wait a moment...does "nv" mean "no video" (and how does it think I can read it anyway?)02:24
filemovernv is the driver02:24
kerryDitte_: nviadea02:24
filemovernv is the free version of nvidia02:25
filemoverthe linux version of nvidia02:25
Ditte_kerry: well, because my bf at the time had free copies of win2000 around his office. And no, never heard of either02:25
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Ditte_filemover: oh. I though it meant not available02:25
filemoverwhere are you seeing nv02:26
filemoverin the kcontrol02:26
filemoverin Kcontrol02:26
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Ditte_filemover: in the system settings02:26
filemoveryeah its the driver02:26
filemoveryou must be in hardware configuratiion02:26
filemoverfor the video02:26
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filemoverone sec ill see what ive got02:27
Ditte_now it sees the correct resolution, too:)02:27
filemoveryeah its detected it right02:27
Ditte_oh, everything's fine...I like Linux again02:27
Ditte_I mean, one day it'll even let me see youtube and spare me 45 minutes of sweating every time I have to install Java on a new browser, and Ill even use it consistently:)02:28
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kerryDitte_: go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc3jH3ws to see wa beryl look like02:28
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davide84hi, why when I try to change file associations kde don't save my choice?02:29
filemoverdid you click apply02:29
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filemoverthat is very freaky02:30
davide84yes I have click on apply, but when I open the documents kde use the same applications!02:30
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Ditte_kerry: youtube doesn't work with 64-bit linux02:30
filemoverright click on the file02:30
filemoverselect properties02:30
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filemoverin that window click on the tool button02:31
RivaeAeryaHow do i update to Kubuntu Gutsy? (in KDE)02:31
filemoverin the bottom of that window should be a application prefference order02:32
kerryDitte_: kubuntu 7.04?02:32
filemoverselect the move up or down button on the right to select the order of prefference02:32
davide84I have try also in this way, but kde don't remember my choise!02:32
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kerryDitte_: wa version of linux u running?02:33
filemoverwell it looks like you need help on a molecular level thats going to need more expertise than I can give at the momebt02:33
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Ditte_kerry: regardless...almost all embedded things don't work on 64 bits. I'm running Dapper Drake 64, anyhow02:34
filemovertry and google arround about file association settings conig in kde02:34
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava02:34
kerryDitte_: o.O02:35
filemoveranother thing is that your might have the wrong permissions on the files02:35
kerryDitte_: why u dont upgrade?do u like using old os or something?02:35
Jucato(there's nspluginwrapper for flash)02:35
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davide84I want to change kate with scite for open  *. java files02:36
filemoveryou might have set the permissions as root and now as user you cant change the associations02:36
filemovertry and do it as root instead02:36
Jucatodavide84: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations. try to search for *.java or create a new file association for it02:36
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RivaeAeryaGuys, how do i update to Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon in KDE?02:37
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)02:37
JucatoRivaeAerya: what do you mean? Kubuntu  uses KDE02:37
Jucatoaah ok sorry misread02:37
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Ditte_kerry: what would the new one be?? I thought this was the latest02:38
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filemoversudo aptitude upgrade02:38
JucatoRivaeAerya: the release notes for Gutsy RC (release candidate) over at http://kubuntu.org has some instructions02:38
Ditte_incidentally, how do I check my exact linux version?02:38
JucatoDitte_: version of what? kernel? Kubuntu?02:38
filemoveruname -r02:38
Jucatofor the kernel ^^^^02:38
Ditte_jucato: kubuntu02:38
filemoveruname -r   = kernel version02:38
Jucatolsb_release -a02:38
Ditte_very intuitive as usual:)02:39
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kerryDitte_: feisty 7.04 kubuntu.i know nothing about dapper never use it02:39
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JucatoDapper is version 6.06, the first LTS release02:39
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Ditte_jucato: that's what I have02:39
Jucatoyep. read that. just explaining to kerry02:40
Ditte_kerry: all right, I'm one Linux in the past...but I really don't feel like reinstalling the whole OS02:40
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kerryJucato: cant he just upgrade to feisty?02:41
Jucatohe can, but he has to go through Edgy first02:41
kerrythat will take forever02:41
Jucato(or install fresh if he's kept his /home on another partition)02:41
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filemoverid back up the whole OS so if anything happens you can go back02:42
Ditte_all right, forget about it...I'll live in the past until I buy a new PC:)02:43
kerryDitte_: u dont realy have to install just upgrade while your doing your stuff then restart.its not like u are installing xin 98 then u want 200002:43
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Jucatothere's another alternative. when they release 8.04 Hardy Heron, which is another LTS release, it might be possible to upgrade to it directly02:44
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filemoverthis is my backup string you can just edit it it to suit02:44
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filemovertar cvpjf /media/sda1/backup-28-08-07.tar.bz2 --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/media --exclude="/home/daffytheduck/Desktop/Ktorrent Downloads" /02:44
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Ditte_I'm not even sure my PC is up to a contemporary version...this one's slow enough02:44
kerryJucato: im in wiki ubuntu i cant fint the page how to install flash for konq02:44
filemover--exclude=whatever you dont want02:44
Jucatokerry: for 64-bit?02:44
TimSJucato: I dont suppose you would know where I could get a deb for tightvnc server and viewer02:44
kerryJucato: euh  i have no idea02:45
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kerryJucato: it was something name flash non free02:45
Jucatokerry: umm... if you're not using a 64-bit computer, you can just install flashplugin-nonfree02:45
Jucato!info tightvncserver02:45
ubotutightvncserver: virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.9-21 (feisty), package size 677 kB, installed size 1456 kB02:45
Ditte_kerry: btw...you use kubuntu 7, but you're still on 32 bit?02:45
kerryyes thats the name02:46
JucatoTimS: that one ?02:46
TimSWell, with windows, it comes with a GUI with more options02:46
Jucato!info xtightvncviewer02:46
ubotuxtightvncviewer: virtual network computing client software for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.9-21 (feisty), package size 59 kB, installed size 176 kB02:46
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kerryDitte_: i have no idea if im on 64 or 3202:47
JucatoDitte_: the Kubuntu versions don't have anything to do with 32/64-bit.02:47
zenanybody knows about quantum mechanics applied to computer science??02:47
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TimSJucato: I installed tightvnc-java but dont know how to launch it.02:47
Jucatokerry: what kind of processor/CPU do you have?02:47
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JucatoTimS: um..sorry can't help you there02:47
kerryJucato: dont know02:47
Jucato!offtopic | zen02:47
ubotuzen: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:47
Jucatokerry: can you type /sysinfo right now? in here02:48
kerry /sysinfo02:48
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Jucatoer.. w/o the space02:48
Ditte_jucato: I know, but it's odd for somebody with a new PC to run on 32 bits, isn't it?02:48
kerrySysinfo for 'linux': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDSempron3000+ at 1000 MHz (1991 bogomips), , RAM: 425/440MB, 122 proc's, 9.2h up02:48
JucatoDitte_: not really.02:48
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Jucatonot everyone is into 64-bit or dual cores :)02:49
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kerryJucato: how do i know if it's 32 or 64?02:49
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Ditte_jucato: now excuse this newbie...but aren't ALL processor sold in the past year and a half 64-bit?02:49
Jucatokerry: I guess that would be a 32-bit CPU. and your CPU is AMD Sempron 3000 (at least according to that)02:49
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JucatoDitte_: nope02:49
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Ditte_jucato: uh??? can you name a 32-bit CPU one can buy today?02:50
kerryis 64 better then 32?02:50
zenwhat is Echelon ??02:50
Jucato!offtopic | zen02:50
ubotuzen: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:50
Jucatokerry: don't really know02:50
Ditte_kerry: 64 can use more memory, 32 is limited to 3.something Gb02:51
Jucato4GB RAM actually02:51
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Ditte_on the other hand, a vast majority of programs are not available on 64 bits. Hence my win2000 dual boot02:51
kerryoh so i can put my ram to 3GIG?02:51
JucatoDitte_: the fact that Flash doesn't even support 64-bit yet, and that there are lots of software that don't take advantage of 64-bit, shows that it's far form being a standard yet02:51
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Jucatokerry: if your motherboard supports it02:52
kerryJucato: how do i know if it soports it?02:52
Ditte_jucato: Flash and opera, and rosegarden, and, and, and. Still, it's today's technology02:52
Jucatokerry: your motherboard's manual :)02:52
kerryJucato: i have to look it up on the net?02:52
Ditte_32-bit is yesterday's02:52
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JucatoDitte_: I would disagree. but we don't actually try to convince people in here with our hardware preferences02:53
kerrynet that is.my dog had the manuel for a chu toy becaus my chiken fell on it :(02:53
Jucatoall I can say is that with the current state of software supporting or making use of 64-bit CPU's, 32-bit is still today, and 64-bit is still a not so soon tomorrow02:53
filemoverBeryl Poops all over vista02:54
kerryDitte_: 2000 is stoneage02:54
zenanybody there?02:54
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zento talk about02:54
Ditte_I actually don't understand why Adobe *refuses* to even *consider* a 64-bit version for the future02:54
Ditte_it isn't like 32 bits are going to be around forever, whatever their status might be today02:55
kerryDitte_: long live 3202:55
JucatoDitte_: take it up with them. the fact is it's not only Adobe.02:55
Ditte_kerry: *free' stoneage:)02:55
Jucatoanyway, this is hardly the proper place for hardware discussions unrelated to Kubuntu02:56
kerryJucato: i looking how to conect linux on my xp02:56
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Jucatokerry: what do you mean?02:56
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Jucatozen: this is not the place to talk about quantum mechanics, or even computer science02:56
kerryJucato: file shaering02:57
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:57
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zenwhy ucato?02:57
Jucatozen: because this channel is for Kubuntu user support02:57
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zenwhat is the matters is this about02:57
Jucatothis is not a general chat channel02:57
zenwhere can I find these?02:58
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Jucatozen: search in Google. or try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##offtopic02:58
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zenthanks mate02:58
dbgltsince upgrading to gusty, there seems to be something wrong with my network: knetworkmanager is not showing any available wireless networks (although I know at least two are in range). Any ideas what the problem could be? (Or where I need to olook...)02:59
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kerrydbglt: go to #ubuntu+102:59
ardchoillein gnome I could do "gnome-open filename" and have gnome open the file with the proper file associated app. How do I do that in kde?03:00
dbgltkerry, yes, I have tried. The problem is... they are ubuntu, not kubuntu focused03:00
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dbgltdoubt anyone would have any idea03:00
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Jucatodbglt: they are Gutsy focused03:00
Jucatofor all *buntus03:00
Jucato(see this channel's topic)03:00
dbgltyes, but very few use kubuntu even, and then more obscure to knetworkmanager03:00
dbgltI appreciate the help though...03:01
Jucatohm.. it's a sunday, that could be one reason...03:01
kerrydbglt: so why u went to gusty so fast n u know it wasnt finish yet?03:01
tehkAh done! Kde4 svn time03:01
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dbgltkerry, I have no idea what you are asking.03:01
kerryJucato: how do u downgrade?03:01
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Jucatokerry: dunno03:01
dbgltI'm quite happy with gusty as it is, it is just an incremental upgrade from what I have seen03:02
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ardchoillekerry: Don't think you can03:02
dbgltthere is just the minor issue of wireless connectivity03:02
tehkI have been using gutsy since the first tribe, stable here03:02
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|Cugel|I don't think the final will fix the wireless problems.03:03
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kerryardchoille: i tink u can.lie 2months ago i saw someone ask the question she's not getting to downgrade and a op help her out by giving the command etc03:03
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kerryDitte_: if u stil alive when u go back to 2000 go to utube and type linux 3D and choose the second video to see what beryl can do03:05
Ditte_kerry: I'll try:)03:06
kerryJucato: i run beryl but all i get was a white screen i could spin the cube an only see the caps but the desktop are all white03:07
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Jucato#ubuntu-effects might be a good place to ask03:08
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kerryJucato: why dont u use beryl or compiz?03:09
TimSAnyone here use VNC?03:09
TimSkerry: for Beryl help ask in #compiz-fusion03:09
Jucatokerry: no particular reason (other than not working properly w/ KDE at times)03:09
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JucatoTimS: there's also #ubuntu-effects which is a bit more specific for Ubuntu + Beryl/Compiz/Compiz-Fusion03:10
kerryJucato: i find it works 95%good once u install your drivers03:10
Jucatoit's not about drivers. it's about KDE integration03:10
kerryJucato: no bugs etc03:10
Jucatobut that's just me03:10
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Ax-AxI want to remove sticky keys :(03:11
DragnslcrIsn't kwin supposed to have its own compositing stuff sometime soon?03:12
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Jucatoyeah, in KDE 403:12
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JucatoAx-Ax: System Settings -> Accessibility?03:13
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eye_i found a theme with a gtkrc file how to apply that theme?03:13
Jucatothat is a theme for GTK apps03:14
Jucatonot KDE/Qt apps03:14
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eye_thats true, i'm on gnome03:15
ubotuTo change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.03:15
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Jucatoand #ubuntu for more GNOME help (you are in #kubuntu )03:16
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kerryJucato: no one in ffects how do i get to compiz i forgot the name of the ch03:18
Jucato#compiz-fusion I think03:18
Jucatoit's a sunday...03:18
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kerryJucato: becaus it a sunday theres no one?03:21
Darkrift412is there a build in way for me to setup a keymap so that if i wanted to hold (example) ctrl alt + space it would send space over and over really fast? this is for a program that reads holding space as a single press03:22
Jucatokerry: because it's a sunday, most people would probably be afk (although online)03:22
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Darkrift412kinda like an old school console turbo button function03:22
tony_Can anyone help me with rar files?03:22
Jucatotony_: what's the problem?03:23
TimSJucato: I am a UT2004 player, how can I enable global shortcuts, like Amarok whilst playing?03:23
kerrytony sudo apt-get unrar03:23
JucatoTimS: um... don't know really03:23
kerrytony sudo apt-get install unrar03:23
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Jucato(or pick unrar from Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager)03:24
tony_Jucato: When I try to open a rar file in Ark it gives the following error: The utility unrar-free is not in your PATH03:24
Jucatotony_: see the command kerry gave03:24
Jucato"sudo apt-get install unrar" (or pick unrar from Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager)03:24
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dthackerwhat does rar stand for anyway?03:25
Jucatoum... ask rarlabs :)03:25
kerrydthacker: google that we dont know03:25
grul_i think it stands for rar archive or something silly03:25
kerrydthacker: google is your best friend03:25
pagdthacker, "Roshal ARchive" (second line of Wikipedia's article ;)03:26
grul_roshal archive :p03:26
JucatoIn computing, RAR is a proprietary file format for data compression and archiving, developed by Eugene Roshal (hence the name RAR: Roshal ARchive).03:26
Darkrift412anyone got any ideas for me?03:26
kerryoh my03:26
TimSI dont suppose anyone here plays UT2004 do they?03:26
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TimSI /really/ want to get Unrealed to work03:26
dthackertnx: I have been rar-enlightened. :)03:26
Ax-AxI want to uninstall sticky keys03:27
Jucatoum.. easy on the caps please03:27
kerryTimS: wa is it?03:27
JucatoAx-Ax: you've tried to disable them?03:27
TimSIts the Unreal Editor03:27
Ax-AxYes, all the time03:27
Darkrift412sticky keys? thats easy, uninstall windows and install linux03:27
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Ax-AxDarkrift412, Im on Kubuntu03:27
Darkrift412linux has sticky keys?03:27
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JucatoAx-Ax: where did you try to disable them?03:28
kerrydthacker: :D03:28
Ax-AxSystem something03:28
JucatoSystem Settings -> Accessiblity ?03:28
tony_kerry: Thank you. Works perfectly.03:28
Ax-AxBut it pops up "Do you want to activate sticky keys?"03:28
tony_Jucato: Thank you. Works perfectly.03:29
JucatoAx-Ax: did you choose "Deactivate all AccessX features and gestures" in that popup?03:29
Ax-AxNo such choice :(03:29
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JucatoAx-Ax: there is03:29
Darkrift412is there a build in way for me to setup a keymap so that if i wanted to hold (example) ctrl alt + space it would send space over and over really fast? this is for a program that reads holding space as a single press03:30
Ax-AxActivate, Don't Activate03:30
dthackerTimS: keybindings can be set in System Settings> Keyboard and Mouse > Keyboard Shortcuts03:30
JucatoAx-Ax: at the bottom: When a gesture was used: Show this confirmation dialog03:30
gemidjyhow can I recreate the Kubuntu default Kmenu ?03:30
Ax-AxThere is n such box03:30
Jucato<Ax-Ax> But it pops up "Do you want to activate sticky keys?"03:30
TimSdthacker: I have them set up, but they wont work while Unreal is running in full screen03:30
JucatoAx-Ax: doesn't it ask you Continue or Cancel?03:31
dthackerTimS: Did you set them on the tab called "Global Shortcuts"?03:31
Ax-AxHelp, Activate , Don't Activate03:31
Ax-Axoh brb03:31
Jucatohm... how does that box popup?03:31
Ax-Axfrom nowere03:32
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Jucatobecause that's not the standard sticky keys dialog for KDE03:32
Ax-Axif i press shift five times03:32
Jucatosame here03:32
dthackerJucato: hit shift a bunch 'o times....03:32
Jucatoit has Continue and Cancel buttons only at the buttom03:32
kerryJucato: is there a dead file in the repos?everytime i install linux and fetch updates adept crash at the end of the instalation.when i correct this i install more things it never crash again03:32
Jucatodthacker: I know. but Ax-Ax's dialog box seem to have different options03:32
dthackerJucato: ok03:33
Jucatokerry: might be a wrong line in your sources.list file (repository list)03:33
The_Guidehey, anybody know a channel where I can get hints on assembly language (Sparc) ?03:33
TimSdthacker: I set them on the global for Amarok, so I can change the song right now while typing, but not with a game running03:33
kerryJucato: yeah but this is the 3rd pc adept crash on by fetching the updates03:34
Jucatokerry: dunno. maybe or maybe not. you can run "sudo apt-get update" and see where it crashes03:34
Jucatoor stops03:34
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dthackerTimS: Ok, I was wondering whether you set them on the applications tab, and that was why UT was overriding them03:35
JucatoAx-Ax: this is what I get: http://jucato.org/stuff/sticky.png03:35
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kerryJucato: check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc3jH3ws.the first time i heard about linux was in 2000 my sister install mandrake on the pc i didnt understand nothing i completly wipout the hdd that had linux :D this video is the reson i came back to linux and how easy it became to use03:44
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filemoverive got my printer on at the moment and I want to know if there is a way to safely remove it from the system ie "Safely remove hardware icon" or right click unmount etc03:49
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harmentalhey guys...how can i make (k)ubuntu to automatically mount usb drives at startup (id rather prefer not to include them in the fstab)....04:09
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ashfaqWell I am switching to kde, does it have any advantages over gnome04:12
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clau85ashfaq: yes :)04:12
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clau85ashfaq: i would suggest to just try it out04:12
ardchoilleashfaq: When I switched, I noticed that kde apps are better integrated, they communicate better with each other and kde just looks and feels better. But, that's all personal preference :)04:13
clau85a main advantage is it's high configurability04:13
ashfaqLast week I had installed ubuntu fiesty, but being a new bee, I was dissapointed, now on advise I will give a hand to try this interface04:13
bjwebbdoes log out do something different to ctrl+alt+backspace?04:13
clau85ashfaq: why were you disappointed?04:13
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ashfaqclau85: the resolution to my screen was not adjustable!04:14
clau85bjwebb: ctrl+alt+backspace kills the x server and restarts it04:14
ardchoillebjwebb: log out logs you out, ctrl+alt+backspace restarts xorg04:14
clau85logout save sessions etc etc... this is the way to do it04:14
bjwebbits just i press ctrl+alt+backspace most of the time.....04:14
ashfaqI am using a amd x64 pc with nvidia and a 19" wide screen monitor04:14
clau85ashfaq: hmm... i don't think that'll change much just by installing kde04:14
ashfaqBut you might have some tricks to adjust the desktop right04:15
bjwebbanyhow, when i log out of a user with a low display resolution, then log into me, i get his display resolution04:15
ashfaqI need a screen resolution of 1440x900, a voice messenger, a good torrent client supporting and sanving session with resume capability04:16
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clau85bjwebb: that sucks :) i don't know how you could change that... maybe assure yourself in contorl center that the right resolution is selected04:16
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bjwebbclau85: well to fix it this time i restarted x04:17
clau85ashfaq: abou resolution - don't really know; torrent - ktorrent04:17
bjwebbbut before i only had up to his resolution :S04:17
clau85bjwebb: you can try logging out, pressing alt+e (restarts x also), then logging in again04:17
ashfaqIts getting downloaded I mean kde I will have the feel in an hour or so, before that I wanted to check the irc support and it feels good04:17
ardchoilleashfaq: You can open a terminal and type this to fix display resolution: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg04:17
bjwebbclau85: hmm but what's the problem in the first place?04:18
bjwebbhmm how do i use aptitude to list all the packages in a certain repository?04:18
clau85bjwebb: sorry, i don't know what could be wrong.. maybe someone else knows?04:19
ashfaqardchoille:  what would be the outcome, as I can paste this command, I am new to linux language that is why?04:19
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ardchoilleashfaq: That command will launch the configurator and allow you to change the screen resolution.04:19
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bjwebbanyone know how to do that for aptitude?04:21
ashfaqardchoille: Should I give a try right now, the packages are being downloaded, and I am online, with your help ay be be I will have a better view of kde also04:21
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sboyerpensacola...you there?04:22
ardchoilleashfaq: You can reconfigure the resolution at any time, but I'd wait until everything else is done first. And, once you reconfigure x, you'll have to restart x to see the new resolution.04:23
ashfaqardchoille: Just checked I had done this previously but no change although through some other command04:23
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ardchoilleashfaq: You probably didn't restartx04:23
ashfaqAfter cotrrecting the resolution values I had restarted but the screen resolution icon gave no improved options tha the available 1024 and 24 bit04:24
ashfaqHow to restart x04:24
andrea__sorry... how to install compiz in kubuntu gutsy?04:24
ardchoilleashfaq: Restarting x will close kde. open a terminal and do: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart04:25
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bjwebbandrea__: its in repos iirc04:26
bjwebblook for it in adept04:26
ardchoilleandrea__: join #ubuntu-effects04:27
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ashfaqardchoille: I am presently in GDM, and downloading packages for kdm, should I go ahead with your command04:27
ardchoilleashfaq: I'd wait until downloads/installs are done. But that command just reconfigures x, it's independent of gnome and kde.04:28
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ashfaqIf I can go ahead without causing any problem, I will do it, right now!04:28
ashfaqardchoille: Tell me changing the desktop enviro to kde will give me some added advantages, to learn and operate with ease, you know I am a new bee04:30
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goraIt's nice to be here!!!04:31
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ashfaqardchoille: Your inputs will give the required confidence, as today I was realy nervous, and the idea struck to give a hand to kde and than if  found suitable continue or forget linux04:31
gorahello all04:31
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ashfaqardchoille: Have I lost you?04:33
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ardchoilleashfaq: Well, there are lots of distros. if one doesn't work, simply try another. I have helped over 100 people switch to Linux and haven't found anyone who couldn't find a distro that didn't work for them. I like kde and Kubuntu is awesome. Don't give up :)04:33
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ashfaqI dont want to, I am not happy with the windows monopoly although I had been using it for 10 years now04:33
ardchoilleashfaq: And, you're in the best place for help with it04:33
saeedhi all04:34
andrea__register <ciaobu>04:34
clau85ashfaq: you may have some difficulties setting everything up the way you want, but when you have it, you'll love linux and never want to look back :)04:34
saeedhow do I start compiz-fusion?04:34
ashfaqardchoille:  Yes I am having that feel,04:34
goraBeryl in Kubuntu is OK?04:34
saeedI have installed all the compiz-fusion packages04:34
saeedand would like to start it04:34
ardchoillesaeed: join #ubuntu-effects04:34
andrea__set hide email on04:34
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goraIT's someone from Romania?04:35
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ashfaqclau85: I had bought this machine with the idea of having linux and learning it, but somehow the initial setbacks had brought those negative thoughts, I hope in you folks company I will be hable to get rid of vista forever04:35
saeedhow do install compiz-fusion icon?04:36
andrea__set email <wildelf@tin.it>04:36
ardchoilleandrea__: You need to type "/nickserv" at the beginning of that line04:36
ardchoillesaeed: join #ubuntu-effects04:36
saeedI went there04:36
saeedno body is answering04:37
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saeedI was hoping someone would help here04:37
andrea__link <ndrea> <wildelf@tin.it>04:37
clau85ashfaq: i had also had trouble with some things, but i didn't want to give up, as _it_is_ possible to do it, never even thought of going back to windows04:37
ashfaqardchoille: Hello you busy with some one else?04:37
clau85we'll do it!04:37
ardchoilleashfaq: no04:37
ashfaqclau85: I will try my best to stick, but help me resolve the immediate issues04:38
saeedso no one is able to help with compiz-fusion?04:39
ashfaqardchoille: Have you given thought to my my querries,04:39
TimSAnyone here use steam under wine04:39
ardchoilleashfaq: Which queries?04:39
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ashfaqThat means you missed my last lines04:39
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ardchoilleashfaq: Some of your last lines were not queries04:40
holyguyverhey guys my compuer crashed during an upgrade through apt-get, so now I need to clear the apt-get tasks before it will let me use the program, so what cammandline do I use to clear the apt-get tasks?04:40
ashfaqardchoille: gaim and irc is also new to me, I am familiar with yahoo, google talk, but the commands here I had only learned to enter the room that all04:40
ardchoille!compiz | saeed04:40
ubotusaeed: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:40
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holyguyverdid you guys see my question?04:42
clau85holyguyver: maybe apt-get -f install would help?04:42
redoodoes anybody know how i can configure pidgin to send messages with "alt+s" instead of return?04:43
saeedso no one here knows ANYTHING about compiz-fusion, except sending people to other links with no REAL info?04:43
holyguyveryes, that is what I was looking for, I had typed in "sudo apt-get f" from memory & it didn't work, so that is why I came here to ask someone what it actually was :p Thanks04:43
gnomefreaksaeed: #ubuntu-effects04:43
clau85holyguyver: you welcome ;)04:44
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clau85redoo: not sure if here is the right place to ask questions regarding gnome programs :)04:44
gnomefreaksaeed: keep in mind compiz-fusion is not in feisty edgy dapper so it will not be supported in this channel if you are running gutsy join #ubuntu+1 if not join #ubuntu-effects04:45
clau85because probably KDE-people would use kopete anyway04:45
saeedLOL, ubuntu-effects is EMPTY, no one's answering04:45
gnomefreaksaeed: than i suggest you read the docs in the topic04:45
clau85saeed: try later maybe?04:45
clau85or google04:45
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holyguyverclue85 it said "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." then when I tried that it said "pkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege" even though I did sudo04:46
holyguyverI think I got it working now, thanks :)04:47
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redooclau85: pidgin isnt only a gnome, is it?04:48
clau85redoo: no, but it's a gtk program... and used mostly by #ubuntu people so maybe you should try there04:49
holyguyverI haven't been able to get pidgin to install on ubuntu04:49
redooclau85: ok thanks04:49
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holyguyver!Hi ubotu04:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi ubotu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:52
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:52
bjwebb!hi | holyguyver04:53
ubotuholyguyver: please see above04:53
benny_a greatting from a bot.. how warm.. :) hi holyguyver04:53
lonranhi everybody04:53
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clau85!hi | lonran04:54
ubotulonran: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:54
holyguyverWell we sure are welcoming today :p04:54
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lonranwhere can i find the contents of kubuntu  7.10?04:54
holyguyverin it's source :p04:55
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emilsedghstdin: any news from beta3 packages?04:55
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lonranholyguyver, i mean whats going to be in it04:56
holyguyverin it's changelog04:56
clau85lonran: www.kubuntu.org and packages.ubuntu.com04:56
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ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information05:01
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holyguyver!ubotu how are you today?05:02
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schisteI've got a problem with svn05:02
schisteit tells me05:03
schisteurl schema non recognized05:03
schiste(or something like this as I translated it)05:03
benny_translated it?05:03
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thomas_shinda: can you paste console output in pastebin?05:04
thomas_schiste:  can you paste console output in pastebin?05:05
schisteit's gonna be in french ;)05:05
schistethat's why I had to translate it05:05
thomas_NP FOR ME05:05
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schisteok just a sec05:06
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:06
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schisteheu holyguyver I know the channel ;)05:06
schisteShe has the problem :)05:07
schistethanks for your help05:07
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delphinebut I think I am getting it fixed.05:07
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:10
holyguyverhhmm German seems to be better supported then french :p05:10
delphineholyguyver: don't worry05:11
delphinemy English is good enough ;-)05:11
holyguyverYou speak German too? :p05:12
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holyguyverDelphine so are you from France or Canada? :)05:13
delphinefrom France05:14
delphineliving in Germany05:14
delphineso yes, I speak German too ;-)05:14
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senorpedroi speak german too, too ;)05:14
holyguyverI am from the USA but have a germaqn father & a portugies mother, so I speak both of those langauges as well as engld a French canadian for two years, so I also picked up a little French :-p05:15
holyguyverman my computer jumbled that I meantr to say I dated a french canadian for two years05:16
senorpedrowasnt macguyver a canadian too?05:16
holyguyverexcept you mispelled his lastname but yes05:17
holyguyverhis was spelled macgyver no u05:17
senorpedroare you sure? i think the 'u' is necessary05:17
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holyguyvermine is as in the japanese manga Bio Booster Armor Guyver05:17
holyguyverYes I am sure05:18
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senorpedroi think that without 'u' was his firstname, i was writing his lastname above05:18
holyguyveryes & his lastname is macgyver05:18
holyguyverwhy don't you do a websearch on it05:19
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senorpedroi cant, my firefox is broken05:19
senorpedrobroke his wrist....05:19
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holyguyverholyguyver was a fanfic I wrote back when I was 12 about Bio Booster Armor Guyver fighting in the war between heaven & hell armygeddon05:19
nonhorifugioi have a question05:20
francesco__im a newbie and nedd some help05:20
senorpedroask your questions, kids05:20
francesco__i didnt speak very well english05:21
francesco__somebody speak german05:21
ardchoille!de | francesco__05:21
ubotufrancesco__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:21
nonhorifugiowhy when i run KNetwork ... it star not05:21
senorpedrofrancesco__: ich sprechen deutsche05:21
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nonhorifugiosorry... i don't speak english welll05:22
senorpedrononhorifugio: try running it from the terminal and look for errormessages05:22
nonhorifugioi have new version of kubuntu05:22
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nonhorifugiowhat error05:25
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nonhorifugiothere aren't errors05:25
senorpedroit just doesnt start?05:25
senorpedrohow do you start knetwork?05:26
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nonhorifugiothere are two tipes of run05:26
nonhorifugiofrom desktop05:26
nonhorifugioand from run comands05:27
nonhorifugiothe terminal... how do you do?05:28
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nonhorifugiosenorpedro... why?05:31
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holyguyvernonhorifugio what language do you speak well?05:32
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:33
NickPrestanonhorifugio, you may feel more comfortable in #kubuntu-it05:33
senorpedrononhorifugio: open up a terminal an type in : knetworkmanager (or maybe sudo knetworkmanager) and watch out for error messages05:33
nonhorifugiook... thanks05:33
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nonhorifugiocommand not found05:34
nonhorifugiothis i know05:34
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sboyerhey everyone..total noob here.  Can someone tell me how to install a bin file?05:35
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|Cugel|sboyer: open it with k3b?05:37
NickPrestasboyer, I assume you're talking about files that end in 'bin' (file.bin). Usually, you would `chmod +x file.bin` and then run `./file.bin`05:37
|Cugel|Or ark?05:37
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mluser-homeWhy does kde show up as 3.5.8 when it has not been released yet?05:39
mluser-homeooops.. wrong channel05:39
NickPrestamluser-home, are you using KDE 4 beta? >_>05:39
sboyernick...I do that in Konsole right?05:39
NickPrestasboyer, yes.05:39
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mluser-homeNickPresta: No sorry.. that message was meant for #kubuntu+105:40
NickPrestamluser-home, heh. okay05:40
sboyerdo I need to change directory or something first? it doesnt recognize that...05:40
NickPrestasboyer, where have you downloaded the file to? If it is on your desktop, you first type: "cd ~/Desktop"05:40
sboyerok thanks let me try that05:40
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sboyerit says /opt directory not writable by current user?05:43
NickPrestasboyer, may I PM you?05:43
sboyeryes please05:43
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lontramluser-home: kde 3.5.8 will be released monday but tarballs are already available i am presuming05:44
sboyernick I guess I have to register...can you see my responses?05:44
NickPrestasboyer, nope.05:44
NickPresta!register | sboyer05:44
ubotusboyer: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:44
mluser-homelontra: thanks05:44
sboyerok one sec please I'll register and brb05:44
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sboyerok registered should work now05:46
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martijn81how do they do that, integrating a cover inside an mp3? Can this also be done with ogg vorbis?05:54
thomas_where in kubuntu can I modify the users shown at the loginmanager? I tried kcontrol > login manager but to no avail05:54
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Hamrathomas_: im not sure about this, but did you try user management, in system settings05:57
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thomas_Hamra: i'll have a look05:57
Hamrathomas_: just noticed, in login manager, there is the option of hiding a user, in the users tab05:57
thomas_ah thats what i need05:59
thomas_Hamra: I only see a list that says hidden users05:59
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thomas_but I cant hide users?06:00
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ardchoillethomas_: You don't want any users to be listed at all?06:00
thomas_ardchoille: only &06:01
thomas_1 sec06:01
thomas_going to login screen06:01
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ardchoillethomas_: open kcontrol, go to System > Login Manager > Convenience tab and see the "Preselect User" section06:01
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thomas_ardchoille: yeah06:02
thomas_i see06:02
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thomas_back to login sceen06:03
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thomas_no luck06:04
thomas_i have to say i'm using kubuntu gutsy06:04
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thomas_but in +1 there was no answer to my prairs06:04
ardchoillethomas_: Well, it may be a bug, which is why you need to be in +106:05
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thomas_ardchoille: i think I need a way to specify a user as a system acc06:06
syndailyHey dudes! Anybody want to help me with an xserver issue?06:06
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NickPrestasyndaily, we would all love to help you. If you explain the issue in greater detail, we might be able to ;)06:06
troi've enabled font anti-aliasing in kcontrol, but the fonts aren't hinted properly in gtk apps. is this a common problem? if so, what should i do?06:07
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NickPrestatro, in the same Appearance configuration screen, go to the GTK Styles and Fonts menu. Is "Use my KDE fonts in GTK applications" selected?06:08
syndailyNickPresta: Nice one. the issue is my boot and shutdown screens aren't showing. I've used envy to get nvidia's latest and greatest, this solved a few prob's but not the boot logo06:08
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troNickPresta: yep06:09
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NickPrestasyndaily, do you mean the screen that shows the Kubuntu logo and it has a progress bar under the logo?06:09
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NickPrestatro, sorry, I don't know what else the problem could be =\ Perhaps wait for someone else who can help06:09
troNickPresta: ok. i'm googling meanwhile, but i can't find anything useful yet. do you think i should try to install gnome-control-panel or something and tinker with that?06:10
holyguyveris it possible that a kde theme could use less resorces then a diiferent kde theme?06:10
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Hamraholyguyver: i've been wondering the same question06:11
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TimSAnyone here use ManDVD? If it outputs the Video_TS and Audio_TS and its under 700mb can I burn this to a cd06:11
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atanationhelp needed...06:11
atanationnewbie here06:11
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troTimS: probably. i use k9copy and that's what it does to make a DVD06:13
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troTimS: try it, I guess :)06:13
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TimSOkay, tro do you know any good programs that will rip a dvd into one long avi file?06:13
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troTimS: i've used dvd:rip in the past, which worked for my (very basic) needs06:14
TimS!ask | atanation06:14
ubotuatanation: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:14
TimSOkay, Ill have a look, I think I downloaded that06:14
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wine-doors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:15
TimS!info wine-doors06:15
ubotuPackage wine-doors does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:15
TimSWow, not even in the reppos06:15
NickPrestatro, I think there is a gui frontend for configuring gconf. check out ~/.gconf to see if you can configure the font stuff directly06:15
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tony_I have an empty folder in my Home Directory named <mount point>. It wasn't in there before. Can I delete it?06:16
NickPrestaTimS, http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/?page_id=3  there is a deb available06:17
TimSYeah I have it, I was trying to see if it was in the repos for a friend06:17
TimSI got it from Getdeb06:17
Hamratony_: you need to make sure it isnt a mount point, like its name hints, check "disk & filesystems" in system settings06:17
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tony_Hamra: I have that open. What am I looking for?06:19
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Hamratony_: see if any partition is using this folder under the tab called "mount point"06:20
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tony_Hamra: It would say "Home Folder" ?06:22
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Hamratony_: if this folder is in the home folder, it should look like "/home/some-user/mount point"06:25
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tony_Hamra: Nothing like that in System Settings. When I try to move it to the trash it says I need to be root.06:26
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VarangerI am using kde as non-root, whenever I try a admin application, it prompts for the invoking user password. Is there a way it can make kde prompts for the root password?06:29
Hamratony_: if it says so, this folder is used to mount the partition with a mountpoint "home folder", you cant delete it, it would be recommended though that you change the mount point  to "/media/some-name", you should click administrator mode button in the disk and filesystems settings, and right-click the partition, then click modify, and  change the mount point.06:29
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darth-killerSlt, a gaze ?06:31
darth-killerJe cherche  ajouter 2 commandes prcises  mon dmarrage, un peu comme les commandes batch qu'on ajoute  autoexec.bat pour DOS06:32
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darth-killermais bon foireux jusque l...06:32
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ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi06:33
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:33
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tobyHaving just tweaked the advanced window settings of one of my applications I have managed to remove all window decorations from said application. How do I revert the settings I made?06:34
stimpackvaranger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo06:34
darth-killerOoops sorry thx, ubotu :)06:35
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delphinehello again06:37
delphineI need to get subversion to accept http06:37
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delphineand I'm stuck06:37
delphineas to how to do it06:37
delphineI'm apparently missing libraries06:37
delphinebut I can't seem to find them anywhere06:37
tobytoby: in kcontrol, under Desktop -> Window-Specific Settings works.06:38
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Myrth[home] what's the keyboard shoftcut to show desktop?06:39
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The_Guidehey, anybody know a channel where I can get hints on assembly language (Sparc) ?06:41
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arashmyrth[home] : ctrl+alt+D06:44
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Myrth[home] arash: thanks :)06:44
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arashMyrth[home] : Did it work :)?06:44
Myrth[home] yeah, where are these defined?06:45
Myrth[home] .... were you just guessing? :)06:45
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arashMyrth[home] : I have Swedish, so Im not sure of the name, but they can be found in K->System Settings->Computer Administration06:45
Myrth[home] oh i see in Keyboard and mouse06:46
arashMyrth[home] : Yea, the rest of the tree was too obvious for me to not be lazy and write06:47
Myrth[home] thank you06:47
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Stopahi there, how can i connect to internet in kubuntu gutsy RC without using knetworkmanager (its not working right now), IP is supposed to be set on automatic06:50
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eron-eyes_alguien sabe porque no me funciona mi camara web .. soy nuevo y no se como hacerlo06:51
Juacom99una consulta puede ser que ya halla salido kububuntu 7.10??06:51
eron-eyes_chequiaste en la pagina?06:52
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:52
Juacom99sorry i already there i thout i was writing in the spanish irc sorry06:53
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eron-eyes_im new ? sorry06:53
atlfalcons866how do i remove ubuntu06:53
Stopahow can i connect to internet in kubuntu gutsy RC without using knetworkmanager (its not working right now), IP is supposed to be set on automatic (wired connection)06:54
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Juacom99anyone knows when is going to be ready final relist of kubuntu 7.10??06:55
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NickPresta!gutsy | Juacom9906:57
ubotuJuacom99: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information06:57
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HamraStopa: im not an expert in networking but maybe i can help, do you know what kind of internet connection you have? dial-up, DSL , from LAN, etc... ?06:57
Juacom99thanks so 8 days from now greate :D06:57
NickPresta4 days from now...06:57
Juacom99sorry 406:57
Juacom99the download come with all langauge packaje??06:58
Stopai'm connecting through router which controls all, ip, dns etc, in windows i have everything set to automatic06:58
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NickPrestaJuacom99, it should come with at least as many language packs as the previous version06:58
Stopai suppose its DSL :)06:58
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sub[t] rnl  /quit07:00
RivaeAeryaUpgrade succeeded! How do i set all the kde theme settings to the kubuntu default? (like icons, colorscheme, widget style..)07:00
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NickPrestaRivaeAerya, you upgraded to Gutsy?07:01
RivaeAeryaNickPresta: yep07:01
enzo_Just curious...07:01
enzo_With Dapper ending LTS in December, 2007, Does 7.10 become the new LTS?07:01
NickPrestaenzo_, nope. Gutsy+1 is LTS, AFAIK07:02
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enzo_NickPresta: Thanks07:02
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HamraStopa: do you happen to know the IP of the router? if so put it in the box under the routes tab in knetworkmanger07:02
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soulchildhey all07:02
NickPrestahi, soulchild07:02
RivaeAeryaHow do i set all the kde theme settings to the kubuntu default? (like icons, colorscheme, widget style..)07:02
soulchildi just installed kubunt-core but have no icons on my desktop,... how can i make the trash and home folder visible ???07:03
NickPrestaRivaeAerya, you should ask in #ubuntu+1 if you're running Gutsy07:03
RivaeAeryaNickPresta: no one, absolutely _no one_, is active there right now07:03
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NickPrestaRivaeAerya, well, I would assume anyone running Gutsy and is in the channel is also in #ubuntu+1 and if they aren't active there, they probably aren't active here :)07:04
Stopahow do you whisper? and yes, i know the IP of router, the thing is, after i tried to configure connections (automatic IP etc) it suddenly disappared from knetworkmanager so i can't connect anywhere, so im looking for some console solution07:04
soulchildis any package needed to have home and trash icon on my desktop ????07:04
RivaeAeryaNickPresta: I think it's the same in any ubuntu version07:04
RivaeAeryaNickPresta: i just want to reset the artwork07:04
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HamraStopa: sorry, maybe someone else can help you.07:05
soulchildhow do i change the kdm theme ???07:05
Stopathen just thanks for trying :)07:05
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy07:05
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soulchildNickPresta: i mean where is the setting ???07:05
WindowSmasherHi all07:06
WindowSmasherNeed some help07:06
WindowSmasherKubuntu 7.10, keyboard Fn and brightness keys do not function.  ???07:06
NickPrestasoulchild, right click on your desktop, Create New > Link to Location (URL) > in the filename box, put Trash, in the URL box, put "trash:/"07:06
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:06
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soulchildWindowSmasher: install kmalo07:06
WindowSmasherthanks, I'll give it a shot07:07
soulchildNickPresta: thanks07:07
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WorkingOnWisemy brain is not mush, and I just wanna wobble some windows and spin a cube! Where do I turn on compiz in KDE?07:08
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soulchildmy trash icon does not change if i empty it , any idea ???07:10
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asteroidI just install a 7.04, and I looking for iceape (seamonkey licensed for deb'like). In wich depot can I find it ?07:11
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Hamrahi all, few hours ago the power to PC went down, abnormal turn off, there doesnt seem to be anything wrong, but is there anything i should do on my behalf for my system's safety07:12
CPrompt^Hamra : put a surge protector on it or even a UPS syste ;)07:13
CPrompt^soulchild : depends on your icon theme.  there might not be a difference between the full or empty icons07:14
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RivaeAeryaWhat are the default icons, colorscheme, and other artwork for Kubuntu Gutsy?07:17
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NickPrestaRivaeAerya, there is a package, kubuntu-default-settings, which holds the default settings for the artwork and such07:18
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itch_Hello guys. If i accidentaly deleted my /etc/apache2 directory, how can I reinstall all the default files that were in that directory ?07:18
RivaeAeryaNickPresta: says it's already installed07:18
NickPrestatry: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-default-settings07:19
RivaeAeryaNickPresta: did that. and now?07:19
itch_Hmmm. I`m afraid that will change ALL my settings ..07:19
NickPrestaRivaeAerya, Restart X? I'm not sure. I've never reset my artwork settings...07:20
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CPrompt^itch_ : I thinnk NickPresta was talking to RivaAerya ;)07:22
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itch_CPrompt^ Yeh, I get the same feeling .. :)07:23
CPrompt^itch_ not sure about getting the default settings.  what about just uninstalling the package and then re-installing?  you've already lost everything07:23
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Hamrathats why we should include the adressee name, which makes konversation flash red when addressed!07:23
NickPrestayes, itch_, I was talking to Rivae, sorry :)07:23
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itch_CPrompt^ : already tried that. It`s not working07:24
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NickPrestaitch_, when you install, you have to use the --purge option to tell it to get rid of the config files. then try reinstalling07:24
CPrompt^itch_ : does the package install without breaking?07:24
CPrompt^itch_ : yeah.  Nick is right.  forgot about that.  my bad :(07:25
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itch_Ok, let my give it a try07:25
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WindowSmasherHi all.  I had no luck with kmilo.  Any other suggestions for getting my brightness keys on my keyboard working?07:27
NickPrestaWindowSmasher, in Gutsy?07:27
NickPrestaWindowSmasher, #ubuntu+1 should be able to assist you better07:27
itch_NickPresta : I`m not sure I`m getting this. I use --purge when I install apache2 pkg or when I remove it ? Because it`s not working either way07:27
WindowSmasherthank you.  Forgot it wasn't final yet07:28
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NickPrestaitch_, `sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2`. It should say it's removing apache2* (with the asterisks)07:29
Hamrajust out of curiosity, what is apache? what is it used for?07:29
NickPrestaYou might have to actually delete /etc/apache207:29
NickPresta!info apache207:29
ubotuapache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2ubuntu0.1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB07:29
CPrompt^Hamra : web server07:30
CPrompt^NickPresta : i think he said that he *did* delete the /etc/apache207:30
NickPrestaOh. I thought he deleted the contents of /etc/apache2 (like httpd.conf and such). I don't know. I always compile Apache myself..07:30
itch_NickPresta : ok, so I did the --purge remove thing, I reinstall it, but I still don`t have the /apache folder :(07:31
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CPrompt^itch_ : you don't have /etc/apache2 anymore?07:31
itch_NickPresta : I deleted my /etc/apache dir by mistake and now I need it back.07:31
NickPrestaah okay.07:32
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NickPrestawell, aside from someone installing apache2 and giving you the contents of their /etc/apache2, I don't know of a fix. You could always compile Apache and such yourself?07:33
itch_I guess I can, if I don`t have a choice ..07:34
NickPrestalet me install apache207:34
itch_So, anyone here has Apache2 ?07:34
CPrompt^itch_ firing up my web server now.  brb07:34
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NickPrestaor get it from CPrompt^. I would rather not install the apache2 package if I can avoid it.07:35
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RivaeAeryaHow do i set the KDE artwork back to normal without deleting all my settings that i still need?07:36
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melomanehi,how can i reconnect to a PPPoe account automaticly, when it is disconnected07:45
melomanei use pon command07:45
ScuniziIs there a way to share contact/address data in Evolution via Kontact? I figured out how to share the same calendar between the two and figured it would be just as easy for the Contacts.... NOT!07:45
itch_CPrompt^ : how about that /etc/apache2 thing ..07:45
CPrompt^itch_ : wife came home with groceries.  had a "honey-do" real quick07:46
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CPrompt^so....I have mine configured with certain mods. you want it anyway?07:46
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itch_CPrompt^ say hello to the wife :D07:47
CPrompt^ok.  let me copy it over to this computer.  it'll be just a sec.  webserver is ooollllddd :)07:47
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CPrompt^itch_ : ok.  got the files.  you have a place i can upload them to?07:53
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scienceboyis there any to spoeed up how fast applications load?07:55
itch_CPrompt^ Not really :(07:56
CPrompt^itch_ are you running Koversation?07:56
itch_CPrompt^ : neah, Bitchx07:57
CPrompt^itch_ : i can see if the "send file" thing works here if you want07:57
ScuniziIs there any way to use Kontact to view contact info in Evolution without exporting data.. I want a direct link to share the contact data.07:57
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CPrompt^itch_ should be getting a request for me to be able to send you the files07:58
arashCan anyone recommend a DC++ client for Linux?07:58
arashor if somone knows how to get dc-qt to allow more than 1 slot07:59
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itch_CPrompt^ : i`m not sure how it`s done in BX :(07:59
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CPrompt^itch_ : let me just upload it to my works website and I'll send you a like to the tar file.  cool?08:00
itch_CPrompt^ : perfect :D08:00
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Scuniziarash, never used it but Is there a way to share contact/address data in Evolution via Kontact? I figured out how to share the same calendar between the two and figured it would be just as easy for the Contacts.... NOT!08:00
Scuniziarash, sorry.. ment to paste a url.. just a sec.08:01
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Scuniziarash, http://sourceforge.net/projects/nanodc08:01
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|_James_Bond_|Plz help to configurate this modem e220 for this my kubuntu 6.06 ... i download software for https://forge.vodafonebetavine.net/frs/?group_id=12&release_id=13 and driver and driver for http://oozie.fm.interia.pl/pro/huawei-e220/index.html ... plz help...08:03
WaltzingAlong!info dcgui | arash08:03
arashI've never used Evolution and I don't know what Kontact is08:03
ubotuarash: dcgui: Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80-5 (feisty), package size 432 kB, installed size 1292 kB08:03
|_James_Bond_|need help...08:03
WaltzingAlong!info linuxdcpp | arash08:03
ubotuarash: Package linuxdcpp does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:03
WaltzingAlong!ask | |_James_Bond_|08:04
ubotu|_James_Bond_|: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:04
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|_James_Bond_|i don't english...08:04
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|_James_Bond_|i portuguese...08:04
RivaeAeryawhat's the default iconset of Kubuntu Gutsy?08:04
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.08:05
snowdonkeyHi.  I have hard drive I would like to use externally with an enclosure.  When I format the drive as FAT32 qtparted shows the device type as "unkow" and I'm unable to mount it.  Does this mean my hard drive doesn't support FAT32?08:05
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Scunizisnowdonkey, how large is the drive?08:07
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snowdonkeyscunizi: 500GB08:07
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Scunizisnowdonkey, not sure, but that might be the issue.. since it isn't currently working try formatting it in ext3 then see if it's readable/mountabel.08:08
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snowdonkeyscunizi: Yes, I tried formatting it as ext3 and NTFS -- both worked.  However I'd like to be able to share files between Linux and Windows.  NTFS isn't writable.08:09
Scunizisnowdonkey, ext3 is read/writable in windows with an additional driver.08:09
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Scunizisnowdonkey, however, if you use it on different machines you might be better off partitioning the drive in 2 or 3 then trying fat32 again..08:10
troi just installed ubuntu-desktop to try gnome, but it's not even loading. i log in and it freezes at the 'ubuntu' screen. what can i do to login to gnome successfully?08:10
snowdonkeyscunizi: Sorry, you mean try formatting it as ext2 or ext3 again?08:11
Scunizitro sound like you need to add "irqpoll" to the end of the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst08:11
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snowdonkeyscunizi: Thx for the tip of accessing ext3 under windows.  I found some info about it.08:12
troScunizi: i'll try that. right now both gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-session use 100% cpu and just sit there08:12
specialbuddywhat do I do if I don't have my 7.04 cd and I want to upgrade?08:12
Scunizisnowdonkey, k08:12
Scunizispecialbuddy, update-manager -d08:13
CPrompt^itch_ you still here?08:13
itch_CPrompt^ : yes mate08:13
CPrompt^sorry.  couldn't find the ftp password  LOL08:13
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CPrompt^itch_ here's the link http://systelprinting.com/files/08:13
itch_CPrompt^ : hahha08:13
specialbuddyupdate-manager -d doesn't do anything08:14
omariani am trying to install the ati drivers on Kubuntu 7.04. Used method 1 from unofficial wiki and the system got stuck at a black screen with a blinking cursor when i rebooted. I had to reconfigure xorg again to restore the default drivers. Anybody have any idea why it might have happened08:14
itch_CPrompt^ : thanks :)08:14
CPrompt^itch_ np08:15
newsense07specialbuddy: did ya run it from a console or from run, think ya gotta do it from run08:15
newsense07specialbuddy: try from run command08:16
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specialbuddywell I'm having issues because I don't have the 7.04 cd08:16
specialbuddyFailed to fetch cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070417)] /dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs08:16
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CPrompt^omarian : could have just screwed up x.org.  Have you tried Envy?08:17
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omariancprompt: i haven't. method 1 worked for me on alaptop though. anyway how do i go about using envy? what is it?08:17
newsense07specialbuddy: cant you just disable the cdrom as a repo and fetch from internet?08:18
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!08:18
CPrompt^omarian : http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html08:18
omariannvidia scripts? im using an ati card.08:19
omarianit seems like it works with ati too. sorry just saw that08:19
CPrompt^omarian : just click on it.  I promise it works for ATI as well ;)08:19
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CPrompt^itch_ : did you get those files?08:20
HamraCPrompt^>: i have a nvidia card, so thanks for the information, i'll try envy tommorow08:20
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CPrompt^Hamra : np.  It worked for me great.  Saw the exact card, downloaded drivers and configured x.org for me.08:21
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troScunizi: didn't work. i tried with noacpitimer too08:25
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troScunizi: it just keeps using 100% and not making any progress08:25
Doctor_Nickhow do i turn off error messages in wine?08:25
omarianam trying envy as we speak08:25
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omariancprompt: im getting an error with envy08:27
CPrompt^omarian : what is the error?08:27
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omarianYou graphic card is supported by the legacy driver08:28
omarianATI's legacy driver does not support your operative system08:28
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omariancprompt: should I try and install it manually?08:28
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CPrompt^omarian : might have to.  not sure why envy is not downloading the driver and installing it for you though08:30
omarianim trying the manual way08:30
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omariangave me an error at first and asked me to log at some log in the var...folder08:31
omariantried manual install again and is downloading some package08:31
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arashWaltzingAlong,Are you using Dc_gui ?, It is really really terrible, anyone know any linux DC++ clients?08:31
trprin superkaramba, what file does "Get New Stuff" check to see that you have a theme installed?08:31
trprit is telling me i have themes i don't :\ i'd like to readd them08:32
KartiHi all, looking for a tool that will convert wma to mp3? Any ideas? Many thanks08:32
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intexHey! I'm all new to Kubuntu. Anybody know a nice "Getting Started" -guide?08:33
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arashintex , ive not used this, but maybe this can help ypi08:33
arash!easybuntu |intex08:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easybuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:33
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intex!easybuntu |intex08:34
balvinderi would need some help on ubuntu08:34
arash!easyubuntu |intex08:34
balvinderanyone there..08:34
arashbalvinder, ubuntu, not Kubuntu?08:34
balvinderso can u help on ubuntu08:35
omariancprompt...gotta restart08:35
arashbalvinder this is Kubuntu support channel, do you need help with Ubuntu or Kubuntu?08:35
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balvinderi have both08:36
balvinderu know08:36
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balvinderbut was more intersted in ubuntu08:36
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arash!Ubuntu |balvinder08:36
ubotubalvinder: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com08:36
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arashsorry, just join #ubuntu08:36
balvinderyeah i know all this08:36
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balvinderbut i have to use kopete in ubuntu08:36
balvinderdo we have a msnger for ubuntu08:37
balvindertht supports webcam08:37
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arashhmm, doesn't Gaim has that? Feel free to ask Kopete questions here, but also try out at #Kopete or #KDE08:38
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gast123Hey guys, please help me: At the beginning of the installation 7.10. i have to use SAFE MODE for installation, for graphical purpose. Now the displayed resolution is so big, that i cannot access the CONTINUE button after clicking INSTALL08:39
balvinderkopete works ok in ubuntu..but it also starts three extra services..08:39
balvinderso intended to use solely gnome based apps for this..08:39
balvinderny idea08:39
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arashgast123 , Irony :p, just kidding, can't you just drag around the window? I think it's alt+leftclick08:40
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gast123thank you very much arash08:41
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gast123simply dragging around didn't work because of the end of the screen ;-) but ALT+Left-Click worked fine08:42
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gast123Thank you very much08:42
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arashHehe, nice even I can help guys :)08:42
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Omariancprompt...still there?08:46
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OmarianCPrompt: you still there man?08:48
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Omarianhas anybody had issues with the unofficial ati driver for ubuntu?08:50
Omarianissues like, reboot and then system gets stuck at a black screen with a cursor08:51
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Doctor_NickOmarian: yeah08:54
NickPrestaOmarian, the free ati driver or the proprietary driver?08:54
Omarianits the proprietary one08:55
Omarianfrom the unofficial wiki08:55
Omarianlet me get the link08:55
NickPrestaand this is with Feisty?08:55
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CPrompt^Omarian : kind of in and out but I have never had a problem with the ATI drivers through Envy.  Sorry I can't help.  have you tried "startx"??08:55
Omarianno this is not with envy08:56
Omarianthis is following method 1 of that guide08:56
Omarianstartx is the command to start the gui obviously08:56
NickPrestaand you've done all the "Pre-Installation" stuff like disabling the composite extension?08:56
Omarianbut when i try that in one of the terminals when i get the blank screen, it says it cannot find display 008:56
HamraCPrompt^ :  i tried to install envy from a deb package, it said something about dependencies with python that is not installed and a few other programs :S08:57
CPrompt^Omarian : what kind of video card do you have?08:57
OmarianRadeon 850008:57
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OmarianNickPresta: i don't think i did that. isn't that supposed to be for newer cards?08:58
CPrompt^Hamra : just make a note of the dependencies and install all of them, then try the Envy install again.08:58
faLUCEs there an audio editor for linux comparable to samplitude?08:58
HamraCPrompt^: Ok, i'll try that08:58
NickPrestaOmarian, I'm not sure. It might be worth a shot?08:59
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OmarianCPrompt: where do i look for the error logs?09:00
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wightstrakerCan anyone help me with a Grub error 22?09:01
wightstrakerAll the online docs describe it as part of a dual boot system problem but I'm running kubuntu exclusively09:01
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blendtuxcould somebody do a version on my nick09:01
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CPrompt^Omarian : most logs are kept in /var/log09:02
Hamrawhen i tried to apt-get a package, i saw it have other dependencies, is there a way of telling apt-get to download any dependncies needed with this package?09:03
OmarianHamra: i think it is sudo apt-get install -f09:03
NickPresta-f install09:03
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CPrompt^wightstraker : can you post your menu.lst on pastebin?09:04
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sayersHow do I remove something from the remote:/ directory09:04
NickPrestawightstraker, the only thing that comes to me is that you have the wrong root partition set...09:05
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HamraOmarion : thanks, its downloading all dependencies09:05
wightstrakerCPrompt^: I don't have any way to copy my menu.lst, I can only access in recovery mode09:05
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wightstrakerNickPresta: I think that might be the problem; I have kubuntu installed on one drive and a second FAT32 drive; maybe grub is trying to boot from the wrong drive?09:06
ronniehey I just loaded skype, & wanted it for web cam full screen chat, like I herd it can, but can only see it's for phone calls?09:06
CPrompt^wightstraker : bummer.  let me think for a second.  is this a new install?09:06
wightstrakerJust today09:07
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CPrompt^wightstraker : might want to give it another go then.  sounds like either it formated into the wrong file type or you put grub on the partition and not the MBR09:07
wightstrakerThanks, CPrompt^ and NickPresta09:08
jigyasuI have problem with my volume09:08
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CPrompt^wightstraker : np09:08
CPrompt^jigyasu : and that would be?09:08
NickPrestawightstraker, well, if you can, check the line that says something like (http://pastebin.ca/736683). Check the root location. Try different options (hd0,0), etc. Try hd0,0 first and work your way up, one at a time09:08
OmarianCPrompt: i am looking at the last log. Do you want to take a look at it?09:08
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jigyasuamarok plays songs at low vol even when the volume is set to full09:09
jigyasuI ran alsamixer09:09
jigyasunothing is muted09:09
ronniedid I download the wrong skype?, this ones 4 phone calls, where do i find the web cam options?09:09
jigyasusurprisingly helix has no probs with volume09:09
CPrompt^wightstraker : to follow up what NickPresta says, check the device.map file and see what your (hd0) says.  Or it might have (hd1)09:09
CPrompt^jigyasu : sorry.  I've never ran ALSA mixer.09:10
jigyasuany ideas what can cause vol to go so low09:11
jigyasuits just barely audible09:11
jigyasuon amarok09:11
NickPrestajigyasu, if you're sure all your audio channels are at 100% volume and amarok is set to 100%, check the hardware. Perhaps a loose cable?09:11
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NickPrestaunless it is an amarok problem exclusively09:11
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CPrompt^jigyasu : not really.  I've never had a problem with Amarok except for it crashing for no reason LOL09:12
jigyasuNickPresta, I checked that, but helix players is playing songs ok09:12
ronniecan any plz put up a link for webcam chat using skype, not the one 4 phone calls,!!09:12
srednais apt-get dist-upgrade the way to update from feisty to gutsy?09:12
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NickPrestasredna, I believe the preferred method is "update-manager -d" or http://tinyurl.com/32785o09:13
OmarianCPrompt: do you know how to add color to only one line in menu.lst?09:13
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xeviousronnie: what kind of webcam do you have?09:14
srednaNickPresta: ty09:14
ronniedon't know why it matters? but it's a vimicro09:14
CPrompt^Omarian : not sure what you mean??09:15
Scunizironnie, but skype linux doesn't support webcams09:15
xeviousronnie: do you use kopete for instant messaging? because that has support for webcams09:15
Hamrai dont have a fast connection, and sometimes i would like to pause a download to open a site in a hurry then resume it, is there a way of pausing adept or apt-get?09:16
CPrompt^Omarian : do you mean what it shows when Grub loads?  Can't make one line different.  Just have choices for colors of background and text09:16
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OmarianCPrompt: I am trying to customize the boot menu. Am dual booting windows and kubuntu. What I want to do is add a description for the OS and then list the selectable option below so you can select what OS to boot in. What I am trying to do is make the description colorful. I know how to add color to the whole boot menu but not one line.09:16
OmarianCPrompt: yes, that's what i mean09:17
ronnieoh ok, thx, yes my cam works well under kopete, just wanted to try skypes fullscreen, thx for knowlege09:17
ronnie: )09:17
CPrompt^Omarian : nah.  Can't make the "Windows" section different from the "Linux" section.09:17
NickPrestaHamra, there is no "pause" button, as far as I know, but check out: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3084190.0;wap209:17
CPrompt^Omarian : you can change the title which is what shows.  I have mine to say "Winders" and "Groovy cool Linux"  :)09:17
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CPrompt^Omarian : there's a list of colors you can choose though.09:18
xeviousCPrompt^: how about "Winblows"09:18
xeviousand make it brown09:18
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CPrompt^xevious :  :)09:18
OmarianCPrompt: hehehe09:18
xeviousany kde/compiz-fusion users here?09:19
OmarianCPrompt: but is the title a difference color from the rest of the line items?09:19
NickPrestaxevious, I was, what's up?09:19
xeviousNickPresta: why "was"?09:19
CPrompt^Omarian : only when selected09:20
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NickPrestaxevious, there is/was a bug with CF and my screensaver. My SS would only cover ~50% of my screen and sometimes wouldn't even load, so I went back to Beryl. Aside from that, I was happy with CF for the most part09:20
CPrompt^Omarian : you can change the box around the menu and the colors of the "non-chosen" items.  Then you have the option of what colors the "highlited" section and colors are09:20
OmarianCPrompt: right. I already know how to do that. I wanted to change the section colors. Is there a way to have rainbow colors, so that each letter is a different color?09:20
CPrompt^Omarian : kind of limited on the colors but here they are : http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/color.html09:20
OmarianCPrompt: yes that's the manual i looked at09:21
CPrompt^Omarian : that's all you get  LOL.  As I said...limited colors09:21
OmarianCPrompt: np09:21
OmarianCPrompt: did you want to take a look at my log for the ati driver installation?09:21
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CPrompt^Omarian : sure. Not sure how much help I can be but I'll give it a go.09:22
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OmarianCPrompt: how do i drop it in a pastebin?09:22
CPrompt^just copy and paste unfortunately09:23
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xeviousNickPresta: which screensaver?09:23
OmarianCPrompt: like a regular message?09:23
CPrompt^Omarian : yep09:23
CPrompt^Omarian : hang on09:23
NickPrestaxevious, any of them I believe. I use the BSOD screensaver but others wouldn't work either...09:24
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CPrompt^Omarian : this is the site you need to post it to : http://pastebin.com/09:24
NickPrestaOmarian, alternately, you can upload a file: http://pastebin.ca/upload.php09:24
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CPrompt^ooo....good one NickPresta.  Didn't know that ;)09:24
Hamrawhat is a restricted driver?09:24
OmarianCPrompt: http://pastebin.com/m7f55710809:25
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neothecati just installed ubuntu on vmware.  and even though i can get anywhere on the internet from the host and vmware session, i can't seem to ssh form host->session nor from session->host.09:27
trprdang. i want to get the config dialog for the guru superkaramba plugin working. says it needs pyqt4. just installed python-qt4 package. no effect :(09:27
OmarianCPrompt: I think the important line is the one where it says: Caught signal 11. Server aborting09:28
trprprobably have the wrong version of python installed. i haven't seen a single fortune, though that requirement is satisfied09:28
CPrompt^Omarian : ok.  FF just crashed for some reason  LOL  restarting09:28
OmarianCPrompt: weird09:29
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OmarianCPrompt: you should give Opera a try. Its not bad.09:29
CPrompt^Omarian : what kind of card is this again?09:30
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OmarianCPrompt: it is an 8500 LE09:30
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CPrompt^Omarian : hmmm...is this a fresh install?09:32
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OmarianCPrompt: yes09:33
OmarianCPrompt: 3 days old09:33
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CPrompt^Omarian : try this.  cd to /etc/X11/ and edit xorg.conf.  Change the Section "Device" where it has the ATI driver listed and change it to vesa.  Reboot and see what happens09:34
savetheWorld!ubotu fb09:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:34
Hamraim looking at the gutsy cd download page, and wondering, does the desktop CD upgrade from feisty to gutsy or does a new fresh installation?09:35
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CPrompt^Omarian : if that does nothing might have to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:35
OmarianCPrompt: ok. I have to try reinstalling the driver again though because last I tried with envy it messed it up. I had to revert to the xorg default09:35
OmarianCPrompt: that's what i did09:35
Omariantwice already09:35
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CPrompt^Omarian : changing it to Vesa didn't work?09:36
OmarianCPrompt: what is vesa anyway?09:36
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CPrompt^Omarian : generic video driver.09:36
savetheWorldolder video standard09:36
ubotuvesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x09:36
CPrompt^Omarian : if vesa doesn't work, then something else might be the problem09:36
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bbeck_Does anyone have a clue when the next KDE 4 Beta will be available for Ubuntu?  I'm really looking forward to it.09:40
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cloakableESP as the previous beta doesn't really work :/09:40
Les_CaesarsFind Files/Folders is crap; it gives WAY too many false negatives. I want a search that is THOROUGH. I don't care if it's slow. Where do I go to do a thorough search?09:41
bbeck_cloakable: It seemed to work alright here, got to try out the new Oxygen style, and most importantly Kate.09:41
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bbeck_Les_Caesars: what are you searching for?09:42
Les_Caesarsa file which has "oo" in it.09:42
CPrompt^Les_Caesars : command line "locate" does a good job09:42
CPrompt^Les_Caesars : within a document?09:42
bbeck_Les_Caesars: can't you do a grep -r 'oo' *09:42
Les_Caesarsin the title.09:42
SanityInAnarchyknetworkmanager no longer shows me wireless, at all. (After a few hibernates, reloading that module, etc.)09:43
cloakablebbeck_: Ahh09:43
SanityInAnarchyA reboot would probably fix it, but I want to know if there's anything I can do to force it to see them now (without rebooting)09:43
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)09:43
cloakablebbeck_: How did you get it working? Oo.09:43
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:43
Les_Caesarshm. Thanks09:43
bbeck_Les_Caesars: my mistake the grep will just look through the files.09:43
bbeck_You can use the find command though.09:43
bbeck_cloakable: How'd I get kate to work?09:44
Les_Caesarsit's just very frustrating when it doesn't even find the files that match the criteria in the bloody folder I specified09:44
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:44
cloakablebbeck_: KDE409:44
bbeck_Les_Caesars: I very rarely use the gui tools for searching.  It seems much easier to use command line.09:44
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bbeck_cloakable: I followed the instructions, then installed the latest kde4-* packages.09:45
cloakablebbeck_: I got two huge blobs saying 'Failed to Load Object' and not much else.09:45
bbeck_cloakable: Ah, those are plasma errors, I'm afraid I got those too.09:45
bbeck_cloakable: The next beta will have plasma at a much better stage of development.09:46
cloakableSo no K menu :P09:46
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aaroncampbellDoes anyone know where I can find instructions for allowing my SVN repos to be checked out across my network?09:47
cloakableBut when is the beta being packaged? :P09:47
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bbeck_cloakable: The K-menu won't be in this latest tagged beta either.  I think it's being finished now, or was finished late this week.09:47
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bbeck_cloakable: The beta was tagged Monday if I recall rightly.09:47
cloakablebbeck_: Ahh.09:47
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Les_Caesarsis there a way to have locate look in a specific directory?09:51
Les_Caesars-d <path> brings an error: "Is a directory" because it wants a database09:51
bbeck_aaroncampbell: You should check out chapter 6 of the svn documentation (http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn.serverconfig.html)09:53
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holyguyverhey archoille I have some great news09:55
bbeck_Les_Caesars: are you still looking for a file with oo in the name?09:55
Les_Caesarsbbeck_: yes09:55
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bbeck_Try this at the command line: find -name '*oo*'09:56
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NickPrestaand for a specific directory: find directory -name "*oo*"09:56
holyguyverarchoille remeber how my ext hhd would not get out of ro well I tried mounting it in xubuntu & bash said that I need to run ntfsfix on linux to have it mount in rw otherwise it will mount in ro :)09:56
Les_Caesarsand how do I make it case insensitive?09:56
sstchurwhen I first installed kubuntu 7.10 rc, I got this nifty little "restricted drivers manager" icon in my system tray.  It is gone now though; how can I get it back?09:56
holyguyverI meant ardchoille09:57
bbeck_Les_Caesars: -iname09:57
NickPrestaLes_Caesars, use -iname instead of name09:57
NickPrestaheh. beat by bbeck_ again :P09:57
ardchoilleholyguyver: ?09:57
holyguyverardchoille I have some wonderful news, remeber how my ext hhd would not get out of ro well I tried mounting it in xubuntu & bash said that I need to run ntfsfix on linux to have it mount in rw otherwise it will mount in ro :)09:58
Les_Caesarshow do I exclude strings?09:59
ardchoilleholyguyver: Glad you got that sorted.09:59
holyguyverardchoille, now if those other 3 with the same proglem comes in & can help them out :-p10:00
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xeviouswow this tuxfamily.org repo is slow10:01
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ScorpKinghi david_10:04
ScorpKinghow can i specify more than one mouse in xorg.conf? or should that be added somewhere else?10:05
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sub[t] rnlheya Scorp10:07
ScorpKinghi :D10:07
sub[t] rnl:P10:07
sub[t] rnlyeah, /etc/xorg.conf is where you specify your mouse, touchpad, what have you10:07
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ardchoillesub[t] rnl: /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:08
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sub[t] rnloops, yeah, what ardch said10:08
ScorpKingone ps2 and a usb. the usb works and /var/log/messages shows the ps2 and usb both being picked up10:08
ScorpKingso if i just add another mouse entry set in xorg.conf pointing to the second mouse /dev/input/input1 for example it should work?10:09
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sub[t] rnlhrm, not too sure with more than one10:11
sub[t] rnlI'm thinking its /dev/input/mice though10:11
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ScorpKinghehe. /mice is the default. /input0 is the keyboard. can't remember what the p2s mouse has been reported as. it's on my gilfriends computer and i'll only see her this comming weekend again.10:12
kristjan_ScorpKing: try "sudo Xorg -configure"10:12
ScorpKingi did. no joy.10:12
kristjan_ScorpKing: ?right now?10:13
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kristjan_ScorpKing: nevermind then10:13
Daisuke_Laptopgood morning10:13
searaymancan some one help we with installign kde 4 beta on kubuntu?10:13
ScorpKingkristjan_: what will that do?10:13
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php10:13
Daisuke_Laptopthere you are10:13
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ScorpKingi did dpkg reconfigure for x. not Xorg -configure. ;)10:14
kristjan_ScorpKing: Xorg -configure is kickass thing10:14
ScorpKingooe! nice. :D10:14
searaymanDaisuke_but how do i get it if i am using kubuntu gutsy?10:14
kristjan_ScorpKing: it will give you example xorg.conf, that is much cleaner10:15
kristjan_ScorpKing: I used it to configure mouse properly10:15
ScorpKingah ok. tanks. will try that.10:15
ScorpKingthanks* hehe10:15
searaymananyone know how to install kde 4 beta on kubuntu gutsy?10:16
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ScorpKingmy laptop has a docking station (this one) with a jack for a ps2 mouse. i don't see it in messages or lshw and only the touchpad is working. any ideas?10:17
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ScorpKingkristjan_: use the same for my laptop?10:17
Hamrahi people, this is the second time to try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" to end up with a blinking cursor and no shell10:17
Hamrahow am i supposed to stop X10:18
searaymanHamra: ctr-alt-baclspace will restart x10:18
bexamousyou then gotta hit ctrl+alt+f110:18
kcgdoes anyone know how to load idx subtitles in xine?10:18
bexamousX will stop but you're still on teh F7 console10:18
bexamousjust nothign running on it10:18
bexamousso you eta blinking cursor10:18
kristjan_ScorpKing: you plug it in but system won't see it?10:19
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Hamrasearayman: i want to stop it, not restart it. im installing a nvidia driver10:19
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Hamrai'll try these10:19
ScorpKingkristjan_: yes and it's in now. is there somewhere else i should check?10:20
kristjan_ScorpKing: does "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" show anything?10:21
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holyguyverardchoille , Yes yes yes! :-D I am so happy, I just now finished the ntfsfix & founted it for the very first time successfuly & now I can see the files & read them & alter them without any sudo privliges :-D I am so happy I just had to share it with you10:21
ScorpKingkristjan_: hehe. :D both10:22
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kristjan_ScorpKing: could you paste the output somewhere? (e.g. pastebin.com, etc..)10:22
ScorpKingholyguyver: we're all happy. :D and well done.10:23
ScorpKingkristjan_: ok. one sec.10:23
delighthow come the kde 3.5.8 is not offizially announced on the kde-website ?10:23
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delightofficially ;)10:23
kristjan_delight: ask in #kde ?10:24
delightjust asked cause gutsy got it already ... thats why10:24
ScorpKingkristjan_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40656/10:24
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NickPrestadelight, 3.5.8 was tagged on the 8th and should be announced on kde.org tomorrow (the 15th)10:25
NickPrestadelight, http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_7to3_5_8.php10:25
delighti see ;) thnx NickPresta10:25
kristjan_ScorpKing: I can see your logitech ps2 mouse, but where is your touchpad?10:25
xeviouswell that was interesting10:26
xeviousrunning compiz --replace just totally didn't work10:26
delightthnx for the changelogs i had googled them up before .. because of curiosity ;)10:26
kristjan_xevious: #compiz-fusion or #ubuntu-effects10:26
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ScorpKingkristjan_: isn't that the first one?10:27
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ScorpKingkristjan_: logitec is the external mouse plugged in on the docking station.10:28
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kristjan_ScorpKing: nope, example with usb mouse and touchpad: http://pastebin.com/d5b77250f10:28
kristjan_ScorpKing: does the touchpad work normally - scrolling, doubletapping, etc.10:30
ScorpKinghmm... no idea then. my touchpad must be somewhere else then. it's a old laptop btw10:30
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ScorpKingand it only has 2 buttons10:31
kristjan_ScorpKing: so the problem is that ps2 mouse does not function?10:31
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ScorpKingyes but i can see it there.10:31
kristjan_ScorpKing: paste your xorg.conf10:32
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ScorpKingkristjan_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40657/10:33
xeviousdoes Kubuntu install an X server with compositing by default, or do i have to change that to support compiz-fusion?10:34
kristjan_ScorpKing: I see, there is nothing about your touchpad - could your touchpad act like mouse?10:34
ScorpKingyes, that's what it does10:35
kristjan_ScorpKing: can you turn it off somehow?10:35
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ScorpKinguhm. no. i unplugged the ps2 mouse and .../prog/devices still shows a ps2 mouse so it must be the onboard one then.10:37
ScorpKingmaybe the docking station is faulty.10:37
kristjan_ScorpKing: no, the touchpad acts as mouse then :-)10:37
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kristjan_ScorpKing: what's the touchpad model?10:38
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ScorpKingno idea.10:38
ScorpKinglaptop is toshiba portege 7200 series10:39
srednaversion upgrade failed, what now?10:39
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kristjan_ScorpKing: have you tried googling for "linux and your laptop model"?10:39
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kristjan_ScorpKing: maybe someone has the same problem10:39
ScorpKingno yet. let me try that.10:39
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TimSAmarok is doing the weird thing where it changes song really quickly and plays nothing10:40
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leonTimS: are you trying to play mp3s?10:41
boinc31M13hello. I think I did something wrong by deleting my old mdv kde config files in my /home ... how to recover from that (without losing all appz configuration such as kopete and others) ?10:41
TimSDont worry, I fixed it now10:41
leonyou need to install the codecs10:41
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TimSThe UT2004-bin diddnt quit10:41
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:41
TimSI am not that foolish leon10:41
TimSNo, the problem was one of my services diddn't die properly10:42
hellcattravhi all10:42
hellcattravhow do I get VLC installed with RPM?10:42
TimShey ScorpKing10:42
Scunizihellcattrav, why.. it's in the repo's10:43
ScorpKinghiya TimS :)10:43
hellcattravI've hosed up my fedora install and am using ubuntu live cd to get work done10:43
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Scunizihellcattrav, so you want to install vlc while using the live cd?10:43
hellcattravin Fedora when clicking on add/remove software it doesnt come up10:43
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hellcattravnah I want to figure out how to do it once I reinstall Fedora..10:44
leonhellcattrav: you're in a Kubuntu channel try installing Kubuntu or try a RedHat channel10:44
Scunizihellcattrav, maybe a Fedora channel would be more informative.. sorry can't h10:44
Hamrai have a shared printer on a winxp computer that is connected to mine, can i use this printer from here, from kubuntu?10:44
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hellcattravwhats the fedora channel then?10:44
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)10:45
boinc31M13hello. I think I did something wrong by deleting my old mdv kde config files in my /home ... how to recover from that (without losing all appz configuration such as kopete and others) ?10:45
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hellcattravand i just realized im on an ubuntu server too10:45
hellcattravok ill be googling a bit then10:45
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WaltzingAlongarash: i do not know of any great dc++ clients10:46
jochen_wie geht's?10:46
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boinc31M13hello. I think I did something wrong by deleting my old mdv kde config files in my /home ... how to recover from that (without losing all appz configuration such as kopete and others) ?10:55
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srednatrying to upgrade, every time i run the version upgrade it requires more space. First it required about 600M. I uninstalled OOo and amarok, freeing 700M. Then it claimed that it needed additionally 24.7M. I uninstalled some more apps, but now it claims 284M extra, so this feels like a bad path10:58
srednatrying to upgrade, every time i run the version upgrade it requires more space. First it required about 600M. I uninstalled OOo and amarok, freeing 700M. Then it claimed that it needed additionally 24.7M. I uninstalled some more apps, but now it claims 284M extra, so this feels like a bad path10:58
srednatrying to upgrade, every time i run the version upgrade it requires more space. First it required about 600M. I uninstalled OOo and amarok, freeing 700M. Then it claimed that it needed additionally 24.7M. I uninstalled some more apps, but now it claims 284M extra, so this feels like a bad path10:58
ScorpKingkristjan_: no luck so far. it might be IRQ conflict. i also have /dev/psaux and /dev/input/mice. how can i check if it's /dev/psaux?10:58
srednawill this leave my system broken? and how do i fix it?????10:58
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ScorpKingsredna: get more space10:59
kristjan_ScorpKing: I lack the knowledge to give you any reasonable advice beyond making xorg.conf ;-)11:00
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srednaScorpKing: but it will just want more then, i tried that 3 times11:00
koshtarmakScorpKing: ls -l /dev/input/mice /dev/psaux11:00
srednaand frankly, i don't know what to uninstall anymore11:00
ScorpKingkristjan_: lol. thanks anyway11:00
koshtarmakone of them might be a link11:00
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kristjan_ScorpKing: the problem here seems to be that "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" shows touchpad as if it was ps2 mouse11:01
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Scuniziboinc31M13, did you delete them or "trash" them.  If they are in the trash can you can put them back where they belong. Otherwise.. goodluck11:01
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boinc31M13Scunizi: how may I find them in trash (if any) ?11:01
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Scuniziopen the trash can11:02
ScorpKingkristjan_: i'll look around. also dmesg | tail shows nothing when plugging the mouse.11:02
ScorpKingkoshtarmak: not links.11:02
boinc31M13Scunizi: what is the konsole command to open the trash ?11:02
srednafuck you11:02
ScorpKing!ohmy | sredna11:02
ubotusredna: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.11:02
saeedanyone knows why superkaramba widgets disappear after a reboot?11:02
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saeedI used a different distro11:02
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saeedand the superkaramba always stay after a reboot11:03
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newsense07im trying to install the kore theme manager theme and i can install it but when i choose it and apply it the theme doesnt change11:04
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Scuniziboinc31M13,  ~/.Trash11:04
Scuniziboinc31M13, sorry.. cd ~/.Trash11:04
ScorpKingkristjan_: you know how to configure multiple screens in xorg.conf? :P11:04
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saeedanybody knows why superkaramba disappear after a reboot?11:05
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angelHey y'all .. i need help for Adsl connections11:05
|Cugel|angel: well I have adsl.11:06
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boinc31M13Scunizi: errr ... seems there ain't .trash11:06
saeedso no one here knows why in kubuntu superkaramba widgets disappear after a reboot?11:06
angelthis is the first time i try connecting through kubuntu and its pissing the living crap out of me11:06
saeedin fact superkaramba itself doesn't appear in the system tray11:07
angelThe browser won't load.11:07
ScorpKingi have a TV output on my laptop. if i use it i can only see the top corner of the screen. is there a way to set it in xorg.conf so it use a different reolution for the TV?11:07
kristjan_ScorpKing: haven't needed that so far, but I guess google is your friend ;-)11:07
angelKonversation is the only application that granted me access to the net.11:07
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ScorpKingkristjan_: hehe. ok. thanks for the help. ;)11:07
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|Cugel|scorpking: yeah, look it up but it has to do with the panning.11:07
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saeedhow does one make sure superkaramba stays on the system tray even after a reboot?11:08
|Cugel|saeed: alltray?11:08
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ScorpKing|Cugel|: thanks11:08
saeedkicker tray11:08
saeedlower left  corner11:08
saeedof the main panel11:08
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sub[t] rnlsaeed: if your wanting to auto start superkaramba when you load kde, place a sym link in your ~/.kde/Autostart/ directory11:09
saeedhow do I make sure superkaramba stays there even after a reboot11:09
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saeedhow do u put a symlink?11:09
|Cugel|man ln11:09
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sub[t] rnlln -s /location/of/superkaramba superkaramba11:09
sub[t] rnlyou can do "which superkaramba" to see what directory the binary is loacted11:10
ScorpKingangel: first of all, don't swear in here. - i think the problem is with dns. how does your box get dns? dhcp?11:10
sub[t] rnlnp11:10
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angelDamn,looks like i won't be getting any help. x_x11:10
angelThanks anyway Cuge11:11
angel=] 11:11
ScorpKinglol. look up ^^ angel11:11
Scuniziboinc31M13, you have to use a capital T in Trash11:11
|Cugel|angel: be more specific -- maybe try a few things first. Does knetwork (whatever) say something?11:11
PyroMithrandircan anyone help me with this bug?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeaddons/+bug/15275211:11
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angelSorry .. ummm .. nothing's responding..i had to download ubudsl and use the "pppoeconf" command to connect and Konversation is the only thing that worked.11:12
|Cugel|pyro: well if it's just a typo why not just fix that typo etc.?11:12
PyroMithrandirI think it's just caused by a typo, but I don't know if it's okay for me to just go ahead and edit my /var/lib/dpkg/status11:12
|Cugel|pppoeconf -- hmm.11:12
|Cugel|Of course you can edit it.11:13
sub[t] rnlPyroMithrandir: thats what it looks like, yes.  make a backup of your /var/lib/dpkg/status and then edit it11:13
ScorpKingangel: do you set dns servers in pppoe?11:13
ScorpKinganywhere else?11:13
angelBut i checked everything using "plog" command,the dns and ip# are just fine.11:13
|Cugel|Do you have stuff in files like /etc/resolv.conf ?11:13
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PyroMithrandirthanks, guys, that fixed it11:14
specialbuddywhat's the easiest way to get compiz fusion working?11:14
sub[t] rnlgood deal11:14
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|Cugel|specialbuddy: you install gutsy and pray.11:14
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:14
specialbuddyI have gutsy11:15
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specialbuddyif I have gutsy then what do I do now?11:15
angelCuge, i just looked at "resolve.conf" .. nameserver has my ip# ..the only thing that's making me wonder is "search lan" that's written a few lines down.11:16
ScorpKingi use 3G dailup. if i set dns i don't have internet in most programs, just like angel. if i get dns automatically it sais it's invallid but all apps have internet. i have nds servers in /etc/resolve.conf but it looks like konqueror and some other apps don't use that. any ideas?11:16
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:17
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specialbuddywhat do I do to get compiz working on gutsy?11:18
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|Cugel|special: well you could try to type 'compiz --replace' in a console?11:18
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specialbuddyCugel how do I get it back because that didn't work11:20
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|Cugel|special: kwin --replace    --- if things go bad.11:20
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Hamracan anyone explain what compiz and xgl are?11:22
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[4N93L] Great,the Yahoo icon shows up on the browser but it still gives me "Could not connect to host"11:23
hellcattravoi how long does memtest86 take?11:24
hellcattravis there some progress indicator on the screen somewhere?11:24
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envoicesquelqu'un peut il m'aider je suis nouveau sur linux11:26
envoicesj'ai la version kunbutu 6.0611:26
envoiceset je n'arrive pas configurer mon wifi11:27
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:27
envoicesj'ai t voir .....11:27
kristjan_hellcattrav: very long11:27
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envoicesle message est impossible d'analyser la sortie...11:27
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kristjan_hellcattrav: if you are idealist then run it all night11:28
[4N93L] Grrrr..telnet's working but not the browser. >/11:28
envoicesil dtecte bien mon ssid11:28
envoiceset ma connection wifi sur eth0111:28
[4N93L] Anyways,thanx for everything..I'll try to come back tomorrow.11:28
ScorpKinghow do i run another session of X on tty8 from the command line?11:28
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:28
[4N93L] Gdbye. =] 11:29
kristjan_ScorpKing: xinit /usr/bin/application -- :111:29
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specialbuddydoes compiz fusion just not work yet for guysy?11:30
gerardohola desculpen la molestia pero quiero cambiar el tema de escritorio y baje algunos de la pag http://www.kde-look.org/?xcontentmode=14 pero no me deja intalarlos com debo hacerlo?11:31
gerardo[18:29]  <gerardo> yo tengo kubuntu que es igual a ubuntu nada mas que en kde11:31
ScorpKingkristjan_: it sais server already active for display 0. i need display 1.11:31
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:31
sub[t] rnlScorpKing: startx -- :111:31
ScorpKingsame thing. using sudo11:31
sub[t] rnlsecond instance of X on next available pty11:32
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ScorpKingnope. will start it from the kmenu. :)11:32
specialbuddyam I out of luck getting compiz working?11:33
gerardoHola hay algun latino? que me pueda ayudar?11:33
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srednawhat is the name of the apt lockfile?11:34
gerardoHola hay algun latino? que me pueda ayudar?11:34
Hamragerardo: Lo siento, pero no sabemos ingls11:34
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:34
ScorpKingsredna: that one?11:34
gerardohola Hamra11:34
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srednadunno, ScorpKing, i try11:35
ScorpKingsredna: still problems with space?11:36
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Hamragerardo: Lo siento, yo estoy usando un traductor, yo no s espaol, se trata de un canal ingles11:37
srednaScorpKing: your system is b0rk3d11:37
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:37
srednait requires more and more space, the more i give it11:37
ScorpKingsredna: how big is the hard drive?11:37
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srednaScorpKing: you mean how big is the partition11:38
srednai can't remember11:38
ScorpKingrun df -h11:38
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ScorpKingshould be ok. try 'sudo apt-get clean' to remove packages from the cache11:40
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srednaScorpKing: i did that11:41
srednathere is 1.1 g free space11:41
ScorpKinglol i have only 4.2 gig and a lot of stuff installed. 700MB free11:41
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ScorpKingsredna: any idea what's useing the space? maybe make it 10GB.11:42
srednaScorpKing: then why doesn't the upgrade work?11:42
srednai can't just do that11:42
ScorpKingis /tmp on the same partition?11:42
nosrednaekimheh.... our SN are similar..11:42
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ScorpKingnosrednaekim: huh? :P11:43
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srednayes, tmp is in /11:43
ScorpKinghi Roey!11:44
ScorpKingsredna: then it will have space11:44
Roeyfor an NVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 and Dell 2405FPW monitor, what modeline should I use to enable 1920x1600 resolution?  using "DPMS" fives me the default 640x480 :P11:44
RoeyScorpKing: heya!11:44
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xeviousnosrednaekim: i just figured yours out, mike11:44
srednaScorpKing: ?11:44
ScorpKingsredna: what is the error you get from the upgrade?11:44
nosrednaekimScorpKing: sredna is close to nosrednaekim11:44
nosrednaekimxevious: heh11:44
srednaScorpKing: that it reqquires 1248M space and i need to free some more11:45
srednano, 134811:45
nosrednaekimwonder if his name is "Anders"11:45
xeviousis there a repository with more recent nvidia drivers? (looking to install 100.14.19)11:46
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nosrednaekimwait for gutsy ;)11:46
nosrednaekim4 days?11:46
ScorpKingsredna: you will have to make the partition bigger then. don't think you'll get past that one.11:46
xeviouswhich version does gutsy install?11:47
mike-kubuntuhey, i'd like to make a .deb file for glc an opengl video capture tool11:47
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srednaScorpKing: that is at the best extremely inconvenient11:47
mike-kubuntudoesn't kubntu keep up to date with the recent nvidia drivers automatically, or is it a polocy to stay with the same drivers per release?11:47
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srednacan anybody recommend a well behaved linux distro?11:48
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srednathat doesn't require 1.3G to perform a update?11:48
tdsanyone know if install.sh is safe to kill? it keeps running on my system using cpu11:48
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ScorpKingsredna: you can tell it not to update11:48
nosrednaekimtds: wonder what THAT is..11:48
mike-kubuntuxeviouse: the nvidia binaries are extremely easy to install, you just have to start compiling your own kernel (actually also really easy, cd to /usr/src/linux after making sure there is a symbolic lynk that runs from a linux source directory you want to use, then do a make menuconfig11:49
tdsnosrednaekim, i know it's used to install programs, just wondering if it's a daemon or something11:49
specialbuddyhas anyone here been able to get compiz-fusion working with kubuntu?11:49
ScorpKingmike-kubuntu: this might help - https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html11:49
xeviousmike-kubuntu: i know. i just prefer to stick with apt provided drivers for ease of upgrading11:49
tdsspecialbuddy, yeah, works great here11:49
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nosrednaekimtds: its not running on MY system... I'd say that it is safe to kill11:50
xeviousmike-kubuntu: kernel upgrade, and i forget to rebuild my nvidia drivers before a reboot...11:50
specialbuddyhow did you get it to work TDS11:51
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tdsnosrednaekim, well, just killed it and i'm still running. guess it's a leftover from a bad install11:51
specialbuddyI upgraded to gutsy and I can't figure out how to do it11:51
tdsspecialbuddy, using the repo's11:51
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nosrednaekimtds: yeah...11:51
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specialbuddytds what do I need to get11:51
tdsspecialbuddy, only thing i got going is emerald. i don't use the other stuff11:51
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tdsspecialbuddy, it looks great but used about 15% cpu on my pc11:52
nosrednaekim!compiz | specialbuddy11:52
ubotuspecialbuddy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:53
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specialbuddyI have no emerald thems11:53
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guest123Can anyone help me please? I do install NVIDIA drivers and have to quit XServer therefore. CTRL+ALT+F1 and the command "/etc/init.d/kdm stop" leads to a black screen and a blinking curser in the upper left of the screen. but it doesn't accept any command i'm writing there.11:53
guest123I'm using Kubuntu 7.1011:53
tdsspecialbuddy, sudo apt-cache search compiz, compiz-settings-manager emerald emerald-settings-manager, or soemthing like that11:54
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NickPresta!gutsy | guest12311:54
ubotuguest123: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information11:54
nosrednaekimguest123: can you do ctrl+alt+f2 or three?11:54
Roeywhat modeline shoudl I use for a Dell 2405 FPW?11:54
Roey"DPMS" doesnt' seem to work.11:54
tdsspecialbuddy, easier to use adept graphical interface11:54
RoeyI get a default 640x480 resolution :P11:54
nosrednaekimRoey: yech... is that a laptop?11:54
specialbuddywell I think I have everything installed11:54
Roeynosrednaekim: nope, my machine11:55
guest123nosrednaekim: yes that's possible11:55
specialbuddyI have no borders on my windows11:55
guest123it opens tty2, tty3 etc.11:55
Roeynosrednaekim: like I said I have a dell 2405fpw.11:55
Roeydo I even have to specify modelines these days?!?!11:55
dfdffdsfsdfew minutes ago my connection went out, but my nick "Hamra" is still shown as connected! thats why im using temporarly this crappy nick11:55
nosrednaekimRoey: How am I supposed to know what type of computer that is?11:56
nosrednaekimguest123: ok.. log in from there and complete the instructions11:56
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ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:56
Roeynosrednaekim: what do you mean, what type of computer?  Athlon64/3200+11:57
Roeynosrednaekim: the Dell 2405fpw is a 24-inch monitor capable of 1920x1200 resolution11:58
xeviousis there a medibuntu repo for gutsy?11:58
nosrednaekimRoey: oh! lol... I thougt it was a model # for a desktop ;) sorry11:58
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nosrednaekimRoey: what graphics card do you have?11:59
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RoeyGeforce4 TI-420011:59
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Roeynosrednaekim: hehehe11:59
Roeymy bad12:00
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Roeyme demands his money back!!!12:00
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nosrednaekimRoey: did you install the proprietary drivers? nvidia-glx...12:00
guest123nosrednaekim: Thank you very much. It worked. Can you explain the difference between CTRL+ALT+F1 and ~+F2 or F3 etc.?12:00
Roeyright, I did.12:00
Roeynosrednaekim: I did12:00
Roeynosrednaekim: shouldn't specifying "DPMS" in the Monitor section be sufficient to allow for 1920x1200 resolution though?12:01
nosrednaekimguest123: f1 is sometimes "stolen" or "owned"  by kdm/the boot process12:01
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nosrednaekimRoey: DPMS doe something totally different (power managerment)12:01
nosrednaekimRoey: is the driver enabled?12:01
Roeygood quesiton12:02
RoeyOne moment12:02
RoeyLSMod shows nvidia there.12:02
guest123well thank you very much12:02
Roeynosrednaekim: it's the modeline that Xorg.0.log keeps complaining baout.12:02
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nosrednaekimRoey: try a "glxinfo" and see if it says you have direct rendering.12:03
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draikIs it possible to convert the BasKet notes to PDF?12:07
draikI don't mind the HTML pages, but I would like to have them in PDF12:07
nosrednaekimdraik: well, you could import the HTML into openoffice and save as PDF from there.12:07
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nosrednaekimp-a: if that was "hi"..... Huhu back ;)12:10
Scuniziis there a way to print out to a file a list of all the programs that are listed in the menu?12:10
nosrednaekimScunizi: they are probably in a config file somewhere, ask in #kde12:11
draiknosrednaekim: That works for me. Thank you much. But what if they are multiple pages?12:11
draikThe thing is that I'm making a bit of a manual for Kubuntu from what I've learned and such.12:12
draikI think it will be helpful for new comers as well12:12
nosrednaekimdraik: I think Openoffice would just separate them, right?12:12
draikI think it would only do one page at a time12:12
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Roeyhey all again12:13
Roeyhey Dr_willis!12:13
Dr_willisOh? :) only been a day or 2 since i was last on here. ;)12:13
Dr_willisBeen Playing the TeamFortress2 game lately heh.12:13
RoeyI havne't been here in some time though12:14
RoeyDoes anyone have a fix for this xresprobe problem with Dell 2405FPW monitors?12:14
Dr_willisI got the week off.   :)12:14
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nosrednaekimRoey: could you please pastebin your Xorg.0.log?12:15
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hellcattravoi hey what do i do now that memtest finished12:17
MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis :D12:17
MinatakuWhat's up?12:17
Dr_willisGot the week off.12:17
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Dr_willisStrike last week for 1 day.. dowbn week this week...12:18
ScorpKingRoey: sometimes the "auto" option in xorg.conf solves the problem. :)12:18
Dr_willisMy Poor Paycheck.12:18
hellcattravhey what are GNU/PGP keys?12:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pnp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gpgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:18
RoeyScorpKing:  that's what *caused* the problem :)12:18
Roeynosrednaekim:  ok12:18
ScorpKingRoey: made a backup? :P12:18
MinatakuDr_willis: So, what did you manage to jam (safely packed, I hope) into that box?12:19
RoeyScorpKing:  er, can't find the backup12:19
Dr_willisMinataku,  right now.. 2 A500's 2 PS's several dozen games..12:19
ScorpKingRoey: you remember the name?12:19
Roeyone sec12:19
Dr_willisMinataku,  ya dont need any Joysticks do ya? they use the old atari type sticks.12:19
MinatakuDon't forget the 1200... and I hope one of those PSUs is the working one12:19
MinatakuYou sent me a couple of those last time, actually12:19
Dr_willisMinataku,  not sure waht ones work and what onbes dont. i THINk they both work.12:20
MinatakuI'll probably need an Amiga-compatible mouse12:20
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Dr_willisthey dont really have any lights :) or fans or other indications they are on.12:20
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MinatakuDr_willis: You can always send the other PSU and the A1200 and maybe a C64 in a separate box, I guess12:20
Dr_willisI think i tossed in a mouse.  Pretty sure i did. If not theres 'joymouse' programs.12:20
RoeyScorpKing, nosrednaekim:  http://rafb.net/p/yKmj0k45.html12:20
hellcattravhow do i encrpyt files with naulatalis?12:21
MinatakuI can't wait (but will anyway XD )... I'll finally have an Amiga <312:21
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Dr_willisMinataku,  i imagine thers guides online on making a PC mouse into an amiga mouse12:21
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Dr_willisi got a BOING mouse soemwhere around here.. wonder where it went.12:21
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hellcattravcos ive made a key but right clicking on a file in nautalis does nothing?12:21
Dr_willisThe more i look the more i found.12:22
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nosrednaekimRoey: AH! you are using the nv driver..12:22
Roeyam I?12:23
Roeynosrednaekim:  am I?? where does it say this?12:23
nosrednaekimsee the comment (#) on line 112?12:23
hellcattravoi does anyone use keys?12:23
hellcattravGNU/PGP keys?12:23
nosrednaekimno... I use voice to text software...;)12:23
Roeynosrednaekim:  yeah, what of it?12:23
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ScorpKingRoey: line 10712:23
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Dr_willishellcattrav,  lots of people do. :) the repositories do also.12:24
nosrednaekimRoey: look up to the "device" section it is referencing.12:24
Dr_willisPersonally I dont. :)12:24
Dr_willis!find pgp12:24
Roeynosrednaekim:  (I've disabled the nvidia proprietary driver because it gives the problem I was talking about--the unaccelerated driver doesn't have this issue)12:24
ubotuFound: gpgp, libpgp-sign-perl, pgpdump, pgpgpg, pgplsh (and 8 others)12:24
Dr_willis!info gpgp12:24
ubotugpgp: gnome front-end to GnuPG - a free PGP replacement. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-12ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 56 kB, installed size 300 kB12:24
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MinatakuDr_willis: Thanks, BTW :D12:24
nosrednaekimRoey: umm wat problem? the wrong resolution?12:24
Dr_willisMinataku,  ill get ya to make me somthing someday..12:24
MinatakuLike I've said, I'll take whatever you don't want X312:24
hellcattravDr_willis: I just got the seahorse app but what do i do with the key i made?12:25
MinatakuDr_willis: Perhaps I'll make a prototype of my senior project for ya12:25
Dr_willishellcattrav,  no idea. save it somewhere? :)12:25
ScorpKingnite guys...12:25
Dr_willisMinataku,  heh. needing to track down a  little peer-peer network cable. or adaptor for work.12:26
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Dr_willisbut thats easy to make.12:26
MinatakuIt's called a Null Modem Cable :312:26
Dr_willisnetwork - not serial. :)12:26
Dr_willisi got Null modem cables.12:26
Dr_willisYou can use them and the amigas serial port and terminal programs to transfer files to/from amiga12:26
cloakablecrossover cable?12:27
hellcattravhow can i  uninstall the ubuntu games? but leave solitare and tetris?12:27
MinatakuThat's it, yeah12:27
MinatakuI was gonna say it but cloakable got there first12:27
Dr_willisyea. I got a crossover cable.. but its like 20 ft long. :) need one about 2 ft. for travel size12:27
hellcattravotherwise deleting them all breaks ubuntu-desktop dependecy12:27
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Dr_willisNeed a little adaptor i can plug 2 networkc ables into and turn them into a crossover cable.12:27
hitmanWillyDr_willis: cut a chunk off and splice it :)12:27
Dr_willisthe dang little network plugs are a pain to work with.12:28
Dr_willisi need to get a cable making kit someday.12:28
hitmanWillyDr_willis: i think i know ehat you need, its a little device called a switch :)12:28
Dr_willishitmanWilly,  i dont want to use any ac power. :)12:28
Dr_willishooking up 2 laptops at work12:28
Dr_willisHmm do they make a USB powered network switch?12:29
Dr_willistaht could be handy12:29
hitmanWillyi dunno, i imagine you could do something like that with the network power alone12:30
Dr_willisbeen teaching friend at work linux, but getting the cables + switch all hooked up is a pain.12:30
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hitmanWillyits not like switches are that complicated12:30
Dr_willis on my to find list. :) is a little peer-peer-network cable.12:30
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Dr_willisso he can practice networking/ssh/other cool tricks12:30
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MinatakuOooh, food is ready!12:30
Dr_williswe cant get wireless going on his box. It crashes his machine.12:31
savetheWorld peer-peer-network = Nic to Nic ethernet cable?12:31
Roeynosrednaekim:  right.12:31
hitmanWillyoh, one of those...broadcom?12:31
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Dr_williswe donmt have gibibit nics either.12:31
nosrednaekimRoey: doesn't nv have the same problem?12:31
Roeynosrednaekim:  it won't allow 1920x1200.  Google for "kubuntu 2405fpw" and you'll see what I mean.12:31
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structwill kubuntu have desktop effects like ubuntu does?12:32
Scunizistruct, it does now in Feisty12:32
hitmanWillysort of, esp when kde 4 hits12:32
hitmanWillykwin can already do some pretty cool stuff12:32
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nosrednaekimRoey: ah... ok... then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to reset everything.12:33
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hellcattravhow do i get the latest thunderbird version?12:35
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hellcattravin the repo it has 1.5  and the website has 2.0 ive downloaded the 2.0 tarbell but don't know what to do next?12:35
nosrednaekimhellcattrav: is it the source tarball?12:36
hellcattravno idea12:36
Roeynosrednaekim:  hmm, ok12:36
Roeynosrednaekim:  thanks12:36
hellcattravits whats ever on teh front page of the thunderbird website12:36
hitmanWillyprobably not, i think it comes in binary by default12:36
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nosrednaekimhellcattrav: ah ok, well unzip it with ark and then go inside that directory and run "thunderbird" or something like that.12:37
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hitmanWillyiirc it also has an installer app with it12:37
hellcattravwait so how do i use it?12:38
structScunizi: how do you enable it?12:38
hellcattravdo i need uninstall 1.5 first?12:38
hitmanWillyits probably a good idea12:38
nosrednaekimhellcattrav:actually you can get thunderbird debs from getdeb.net12:38
Scunizistruct, sorry, I'm in 4 channels .. enable what?12:38
hellcattravwhats that?12:38
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structScunizi: desktop effects in kubuntu12:38
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)12:39
nosrednaekimhellcattrav: its a site where people upload thier own packages12:39
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acomacoAnyone know how to check what type of RAM i got? =)12:39
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hitmanWillyacomaco: what cpu/socket?12:39

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