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yaccinbut why do i have to do all the stuff?01:21
yaccini never can remember all this :(01:21
boselectait's your program?01:21
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yaccinon windows/cygwin i only do gcc wurzel.c and it works... id ont even have to include math.h01:22
yaccinyes01:22
boselectayes well just because something compiles on a given compiler doesn't mean the code is bug-free.01:22
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yaccinits the same code our teacher used :(01:24
boselectaplease tell me it's not a university01:24
lee_sorry didnt mean to spam but I am gett highly flusterd  any ways there was a synatax error01:24
yaccinboselecta: it is -_-01:24
yaccinthe teacher spent ~90 minutes on the hello world program01:24
lee_Your selection (1 or 2)? 101:24
lee_/home/lee/Desktop/LiMaO-FF32wPlugins: line 144: syntax error near unexpected token `done'01:24
lee_an how the hadies do I register01:25
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boselecta?REDO FROM START01:25
yaccinLiMaO: what does that script do?01:25
lee_because not being abl to do a tell is right erking me off01:25
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yaccinboselecta: i dont even know what is wrong with that code :/01:25
lee_I think its the os that is messed up01:26
lee_I am aobut to get rid of it01:26
boselectaOK. for one thing, main has a return type. so you really want int main(), and not main()01:26
boselectaand before the end of main() you want to return 0.01:26
lee_LiMaO it cam up wint a syntax error01:27
boselectaso that's what it means when it says "control reaches end of non-void function"01:27
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pwnt-so I paid for some company broadcasting some tournoment online, and I'm trying to watch their broadcast right now, It doesn't work. is it from linux? :<01:27
boselectayou have to return an int for main. and its good practise to advertise that (main is perhaps the one example where you can return something without saying so)01:27
lee_how do I register this stupid thing01:27
benny269 any networking/wireless help? my wireless is broadcasting and ubuntu is configured for it, wireless light comes on but no internet?!01:28
pwnt-it doesn't say plugin missing or anythin01:28
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yaccinboselecta: ok but why do i have to use that many options?01:28
pwnt-tournoment is October 14-20, 2007.01:28
firefox90What is the cmd to install Compiz manager for gutsy?01:28
pwnt-is it october 14th in the united states yet?01:28
pwnt-cause here in my country its already 14 Oct.01:28
yaccinfirefox90: sudo apt-get install compizconfig*01:29
firefox90thanks01:29
boselectayaccin: man gcc. but -W -Wall -pedantic -ansi are there to tell you if you've done something non-standard (extra warnings)01:29
turgonWould it work in Gutsy the 64-bit debian package available at WineHQ for Feisty amd64?01:29
boselecta-O3 is optimized code01:29
lee_so omne was askig waht is the code for..its supose to run soe tht 64 bits can run the 32 bit version of fire fox and have flash and java01:29
boselecta-lm tells it that it has to link against the math library01:29
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Timbooooodid the new install of ubuntu help with wireless?01:30
boselectaand -o gives it the name of the executable output01:30
firefox90yaccin, it said it couldn't find package compizconfig01:30
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yaccinboselecta: why do i have to tell gcc to link against math library?01:30
lee_ok how aobut it I get rid of KDE01:30
firefox90did I need that * at the end?01:30
yaccinfirefox90: compizconfig*01:30
yaccinnot compizconfig01:30
benny269timbooooo: mine stopped working with the new version?01:30
lee_and go with ubunto 64 bit01:30
firefox90oh got it, thanks01:30
Timbooooobenny269 that isnt good..01:30
boselectahow is it supposed to know, otherwise?01:30
lee_or send tht old code through01:31
yaccin#include <math.h>01:31
yaccin:)01:31
benny269i know i dont know how to fix it?01:31
yaccinthats how gcc should be supposed to know ^^01:31
LiMaOyaccin: it installs firefox32 + java + flash + mplayer plugins01:31
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pwnt-I have ident2 installed, and port forwarded for identd. but why it's still not working, can someone help me with this plx01:32
boselectathere are two distinct steps going on. the #include declares the function you need for compiling. once it's compiled, it links. you're just doing it all on the same line01:32
yaccinLiMaO: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted*01:32
LiMaOlee_: first thing, when you run something, READ IT, but do not paste it all in the channel.. that's flooding01:32
yaccin:P01:32
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LiMaOyaccin: on a 64bit machine, that is01:32
yaccinLiMaO: ah ok01:32
LiMaOlee_: are you there?01:32
yaccinboselecta: hmm but when i say, that i need that for compiling it should be obvious, that i need it for linking also?01:33
pwnt-SO identd help?01:33
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yaccinso  #include <math.h> should imply -lm01:34
yaccinbut obviously it doesnt...01:34
lee_yes Iam here I found a secndary terminal01:34
MisterNyaccin: quite obviously01:34
MisterNyaccin: compile and link are separate and separable steps01:35
yaccinMisterN: only on linux it seems01:35
firefox90yaccin, does this mean a correct installation? "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place"01:35
yaccinsomebody should have told me :(01:35
yaccinfirefox90: yes01:35
yaccini also got that ^^01:35
MisterNyaccin: well, other systems don't separate the math library from the c library01:35
LiMaOlee_: wait a second, i'm fixing that syntax error and will resend you the script, ok?01:35
lee_LiMaO Iam here I found a second console utillity that is different01:35
boselectayaccin no #include <math.h> does not imply -lm01:36
lee_ok01:36
boselectayou're right that somebody should have told you01:36
yaccinboselecta: on windows it does :(01:36
lee_ok I trashed it01:36
yaccinnow i know more then my teacher :D01:36
LiMaOlee_: what was the script asking you when it gave the error?01:36
MisterNyaccin: no it doesn't01:36
MisterNyaccin: windows has no -lm01:36
lee_erg01:37
yaccinyes01:37
lee_something aobut line 144 or something01:37
firefox90What is the super key?01:37
MisterNyaccin: but this is no C channel01:37
boselectaand i wish i could come up with the reason it's like that, but the best i can do is that there are separate steps going on. #include is about compiling. -lm is about linking. if you wanted, you could do this on two separate lines, and then it would be more apparent.01:37
firefox90nvm01:37
yaccinthats why i didnt even thought about that linux had something like -lm01:37
lee_if you still there can you scroll up01:37
yaccinsorry :)01:37
lee_seeing how that boot ereased my lines01:37
MisterNyaccin: it's documented01:37
MisterNyaccin: but  of course, some things you just stumble upon and don't know before01:37
yaccinthanks :)01:38
lee_I think I just turned off the remeber line lol01:38
lee_oh wait never mind01:38
lee_oh wait jsut a sec Ill get it off my card01:38
LiMaOlee_: i understand it's line 144, but what was it asking you? did the script ask you if you wanted to make firefox32 the default browser?01:38
boselectacompile: gcc -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -O3 -c wurzel.c01:39
boselectalink:  gcc -lm wurzel.o -o wurzel01:39
lee_it was asking if I wanted to to this yes  or no01:39
boselectathe linking step doesn't see the source code01:39
lee_when I said yes that is where the line errored at01:39
lee_it was right at the beginning01:39
LiMaOok, i'll send you the script again01:39
LiMaOyou run it01:40
LiMaOand tell me if it gives any error01:40
LiMaObut please READ what it will write on your screen01:40
lee_ok01:40
LiMaOi'm sending you the file, accept it01:40
lee_Your selection (1 or 2)? 101:41
lee_/home/lee/Desktop/LiMaO-FF32wPlugins: line 144: syntax error near unexpected token `done'01:41
lee_taht is what it gave me01:41
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LiMaOlee_: but what was it asking?? selection 1 or 2 is to install or uninstall and is not connected to line 14401:42
LiMaOi need to know WHAT the script asked you.. you answered 1 to WHAT question?01:42
rusthey, does anybody know where XGL writes it's logs when it's automatically started in gusty?01:43
rustI can't get xgl to start01:44
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LiMaOlee_: run the new script i just sent you.. tell me if it gives the same error01:44
yaccinxgl sucks use aiglx :P01:44
lee_section 101:44
lee_ok01:44
yaccinrust: what graphics card do you use?01:44
rustyaccin: Probably will do from monday/tuesday!01:44
rustyaccin: ati, need to use fglrx01:45
yaccinwhy do you NEED fglrx=01:45
yaccin?01:45
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rustno aiglx support for my card in the open drive01:46
lee_wahts the comand for changing to desktop?01:46
rustyaccin: at least that's why I assume I NEED it :)01:46
lee_Just a sec I am down loading the other console01:46
LiMaOlee_: RIGHT CLICK on the script file and chose RUN IN TERMINAL01:47
LiMaOno need to use command line01:47
LiMaOlee_: wait, trash (delete) that script i sent you01:48
LiMaOgotta change something01:48
lee_ok I think I found the issue, I do not have terminal and Iam dl right now01:48
boselectayaccin: sorry i'm not a registered user. i can't msg you (although i have sent several)01:48
yaccinlee_: terminal = konsole01:48
LiMaOlee_: you did have terminal.. terminal = console = konsole01:48
lee_oh eh wel lIhave 2 now lol01:49
yaccinboselecta: ah its ok, i think i got an explanation in #gcc :)01:49
lee_scrpt deleted and ereased01:49
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lee_eh well I have terminal now lol01:50
LiMaOlee_: i'll send you the correct script, with everything fixed01:51
lee_ok01:51
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LiMaOlee_: accept the file01:52
LiMaOafter it's finished downloading, just right click on it01:52
lee_I did and it over wrote the other01:52
LiMaOare you sure it wrote over?01:52
firefox90Where is the setting where I can change the number of desktops I have?01:53
LiMaOlee_: now right click the file and choose 'run in terminal'01:53
yaccinfirefox90: in compiz?01:53
yaccingeneral settings01:53
firefox90Yes01:53
yaccin*general options01:53
LiMaOlee_: are you still with me?01:53
yaccinon the "Desktop Size" tab01:53
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firefox90Ok nvm, how do I change the number of regular old desktops01:54
firefox90(bottom right corner)01:54
yaccingnome or kde?01:54
LiMaOfirefox90: right click the bottom right corner icon01:54
LiMaOfirefox90: and choose preferences01:55
firefox90ah01:55
lee_its executing01:56
yaccinLiMaO: apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras should work for 64bit, shouldnt it?01:56
lee_and at 100 percent by the time Ima finished01:56
disconnectedmy wireless doesnt work with - wep protection any idea why?01:56
LiMaOthere's no 64bit java01:56
LiMaOlee_: is it done?01:56
LiMaOlee_: i recommend you to choose to make firefox32 your default browser01:56
lee_no its munching still01:57
yaccinLiMaO: so what happens when you try to install kubuntu-restricted-extras on a 64bit kubuntu? ^^01:57
lee_I will01:57
LiMaOyaccin: i dunno.. i don't use kubuntu here =/01:57
lee_I chose 101:57
lee_hers the screwy thing it accept the file form the card not the desk top01:58
lee_now isnt that a screwy t hing01:58
rust*bump* anybody had problems with xgl starting with fglrx?01:58
lee_its still munching01:59
rustI used to run the trevinos repo and have already removed all the old compiz packages and reinstalled.01:59
rustI'm not using my old xgl gdm session, just the default gnome one01:59
lee_ERROR: Certificate verification error for help.ubuntu.com: unable to get local issuer certificate02:00
lee_lol02:00
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rustfglrxinfo says im running the fglrx driver (not mesa) and glxinfo reports that I have direct rendering.02:00
lee_eh it didnt alow me to say y lol02:00
LiMaOlee_: oh well, let me use another source for that download02:01
lee_it jsut ran over its self02:01
LiMaOwait a second and i'll send you a new version02:01
lee_ok02:01
rustI have uninstalled xgl-server and reinstalled and still nothing02:01
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rustwhen I try to log in it waits for about 10 seconds then gdm restarts.02:01
LiMaOlee_: delete that script02:02
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lee_Idid02:02
DemizeI've found a bug in Gusty, where do I file it?02:02
disconnecteddoes anybody else know of the bug where the login name and password are oversized for the dialog box?02:03
lee_ok I delted it from my card..it seems that this thing prefers cards then the desktop methid lol02:03
rustdisconnected: do you mean why?02:03
lee_I actaully dragged and dropped it into the conole02:04
disconnectedrust: well yes are you familiar with it and know how to solve it?02:04
rustdisconnected: im no ubuntu guru  but I've had something very similar02:04
rustdisconnected: it also knackered subtitles in VLC02:04
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rustdisconnected: it was gnome mis-detecting my DPI.02:05
LiMaOlee_: accept the new script file and run it02:05
lee_Ihad to save it though it seems that I don't have the right click option02:05
rustdisconnected: (you know what that means?)02:05
disconnectedrust: dont have vlc yet but when i type in my username the letters behind the letterbox are huge and you can only see an edge or 2 to make out what it is? same thing you had?02:05
LiMaOlee_: run the new version now02:05
rustdisconnected: sounds the same02:05
disconnectedrust: have you fixed it or not?02:06
rustdisconnected: I have, just trying to remember how02:06
rustdisconnected: it was simple (to forget!)02:06
disconnectedrust: i cant even think how to word the problem to google it? :S02:08
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rustdisconnected: dpi ubuntu huge font02:09
rustdisconnected: im sure that's how I found it02:09
rustdisconnected: here you go: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2126521,00.asp02:09
lee_its executing though it said file already found lol but its over riding it02:10
lee_is the "yes on the finaly part auto"?02:11
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rustdisconnected: I'm pretty sure that the command listed worked for me.  But im not giving any guarantees :)02:11
LiMaOlee_: i did not understand your question02:11
levanderHas anyone gotten instiki up and running on Gutsty?  I've got it up and running (from Rubygems) on Feisty, but no idea if I'll lose all my stuff because instiki won't run on Gutsy.02:11
lee_tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now02:11
DemizeHas anyone other than me experienced a black window when a window is opened, sometimes updating when the window is moved and sometimes staying black?02:11
Demize!bugreport02:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bugreport - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:11
Demize!bug02:12
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots02:12
lee_jsut a sec scanning the the hting02:12
rust!xgl02:12
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:12
lee_my question was was the last option that siad yes or no was it an automatic yes?02:12
LiMaOlee_: no automatic thing, you gotta answer it02:13
lee_because I was cahtitng and it did even alow me to answer it02:13
lee_ok it never allowed me to02:13
lee_on the final part02:13
lee_shoud I try executing the browser>?02:13
disconnectedrust: which of these commands am i using?02:14
lee_wahts the comand line for fire fox02:14
lee_firefox32?02:14
LiMaOlee_: if you chose to make it your default browser just open firefox how you would before running the script02:14
LiMaOor use firefox3202:14
rustdisconnected: actually I've just seen it in the new appearance tab02:14
lee_so either way then ok02:15
lee_testing it02:15
rustdisconnected: go to the system menu -> preferences -> appearance02:15
LiMaOlee_: yesterday you followed my instructions and got it working. we're gonna make it work today again hehe02:15
rustdisconnected: then the fonts tab, then click the details button02:15
disconnectedrust: what's your setting?02:16
rustdisconnected: and there is a box for resolution (DPI).  Depends on your monitor.02:16
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rustdisconnected: start with 96.02:16
joe_does anyone know anything about dual booting I just installed gutsy on my laptop w xp02:16
disconnectedrust: my monitor is a 15.4 wide and 96 works fine for me, its just the login i want to change, not anything else?02:16
usserjoe_: windows was there before gutsy?02:17
lee_trying to ecute fire fox3202:17
joe_I created a fat32 partition during the gutsy install.  the fat32 shows up in windows but not in ubuntu?02:17
usserjoe_: then everything should be dandy02:17
Ximalhi guys02:17
lee_didnt run02:17
joe_yes windows was there first02:17
LiMaOlee_: let me fix it for you02:17
lee_and that other way said plug ins needed02:17
usserjoe_: windows boots fine?02:17
LiMaOlee_: first thing, you gotta follow my next instructions precisely02:17
rustdisconnected: I have no idea on the maths.02:17
Ximalyou gotta mount it joe..02:17
LiMaOlee_: do you want me to access your computer and fix it for you?02:17
usserjoe_: u most likely have to add it to fstab manually02:17
lee_ok you want me to just remove fire fox?02:17
Ximalyeah..02:17
lee_and relaod it02:18
Ximaltryo using gparted02:18
LiMaOlee_: no, do not remove it02:18
joe_usser how do I do that?02:18
Ximalgparted will show if the partition is even showing up02:18
rustdisconnected: and you have a point about setting it in gnome02:18
lee_ok02:18
LiMaOlee_: there's no need to uninstall anything02:18
LiMaOlee_: i will give you some commands to type on the terminal02:18
lee_ok02:18
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LiMaOyou type it02:18
lee_ok02:18
usserjoe_: install gparted02:18
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disconnectedrust: well no problem but like i said changing the dpi changes the WHOLE desktop and its only the login letterbox we want to change02:18
LiMaOand i'll see your computer screen, ok?02:18
lee_ok I cleared that line02:18
usserjoe_: sudo apt-get install gparted02:18
rustdisconnected: sorry I, can't remember how I fixed it exactly but it was definately with a dpi setting02:18
rustdisconnected: yep, you need to set the dpi for X not gnome02:19
LiMaOlee_: type on the termina:  sudo apt-get install x11vnc02:19
lee_by the way it likes the card that I have been using lol..it executes everytime02:19
usserjoe_: when installed open it up and find your fat32 partition name02:19
disconnectedrust: what is X?02:19
rustdisconnected: im not a guru, maybe somebody else knows?02:19
XimalQuick question guys...02:19
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rust!X02:19
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:19
usserjoe_: after that try sudo mount /dev/partname /mnt02:19
usserjoe_: see if it mounts ok02:19
LiMaOlee_: i do not understand what you mean by 'card'02:19
rustdisconnected: read the message from ubotu02:19
Ximalis there any way to build a box ... that is linux specific friendly with the hardware ?02:19
LiMaOlee_: type    sudo apt-get install x11vnc02:20
LiMaOon the konsole02:20
usserjoe_: if it does gksu gedit /etc/fstab02:20
lee_my sd card02:20
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lee_its executing02:20
LiMaOlee_: ok, tell me when it's done02:21
lee_its done02:21
usserjoe_: and add something like that /dev/partname /media/winshare      auto    defaults        0       202:21
disconnectedrust: the fixvideoresolution bit?02:21
dublpawswhich kernel is gutsy going to ship with?02:21
rustdisconnected: you asked what X was.02:21
Ximalnot sure02:21
usserdublpaws: 2.6.22-14 probably02:21
Ximalbut gutsy is My favorite edition of linux..02:21
usserjoe_: ?02:22
dublpawsthanks usser02:22
Ximalit's the nicest one and it works with my wireless laptop02:22
Ximallol02:22
joe_working on it02:22
joe_thanks02:22
rustdisconnected: it's not your solution.  but this might be http://xubuntulinux.blogspot.com/2006/07/ubuntu-set-correct-dpi-for-x-server.html02:22
LiMaOand tell me when it's done02:22
lee_wahts taht?02:22
usserjoe_: oh ok02:22
LiMaOlee_: that's the command needed for me to view your screen and help you02:22
pwnt-whats the different between "update-manager -d -c" & "update-manager -d"02:23
lee_ok02:23
pwnt-i mean what is -c02:23
Ximalis there a way to take all the installed apps and get them burned to a disc ... including special drivers ... so that when you reinstall buntu on a newer machine you can keep them.. kindof like a package install ?02:23
LiMaOthen after you type that, just keep looking at your screen, and do not be afraid, i'm gonna fix it for you02:23
lee_so now waht do I executeok02:23
lee_will do I understnad what it is02:23
Ximalerrr when you install applications.. are they saved to a certain folder ?02:23
Ximalthat might be easier to answer02:23
usserXimal: u want aptoncd02:24
lee_can you see waht I have up so far?02:24
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LiMaOlee_: no man, wait02:24
usserXimal: and yes they are saved in /var/cache/apt/archive02:24
ussers02:24
joe_usser how do I find gparted once its installed02:24
LiMaOlee_: did you type the command i gave you?02:24
ussererr archives02:24
lee_yes02:24
Ximalthank you usser02:24
LiMaOthe command that starts with    x11vnc02:24
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usserjoe_: just type in console gparted02:24
Ximaljoe _ : go to terminal and type gparted02:24
LiMaOyou gotta type it in konsole02:24
Ximalit's also in system menu02:25
LiMaOand do not close konsole02:25
usserLiMaO: lol its never gonna work, he's probably behind the router of some sort02:25
Ximalorgasm !02:25
Ximalerr !orgasm02:25
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Ximal!orgasm02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about orgasm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:25
Ximallol02:25
LiMaOusser: well, let's test it hehe02:25
lee_I cut and pasted it02:25
usserXimal: but aptoncd is better option02:25
axjvO_O02:25
Ximalyes... usser it is.. it just saved me ALOT of problems !02:25
usserXimal: no messing around02:25
axjv!anything02:25
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.02:25
axjv=(02:26
Ximallol @ botu02:26
usserahahaha02:26
ussersmarty pants02:26
lee_Unpacking x11vnc (from .../x11vnc_0.8.2-2_amd64.deb) ...02:26
lee_Setting up x11vnc (0.8.2-2) ...02:26
Ximalowner of ubotu ... show yurself !02:26
axjvThe bot is mean.02:26
Ximallol02:26
lee_taths waht it gave me02:26
LiMaOlee_: that's ok02:26
Ximalthe bot owner is watching us.. LOL02:26
LiMaOnow there's one more command02:26
pwnt-My gutsy has problems, I click "Show hidden files" while im browsing in file browser. And it doesn't show them. WHY02:26
LiMaOi cannot write it in the channel02:26
LiMaOso pay attention to the tabs02:26
LiMaOi will send a private message02:27
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lee_ok02:27
usserjoe_: hows it going?02:27
axjv!ubotu02:27
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:27
ZaschHello. When Gutsy comes out in a bit, what exactly is it going to change? Am I going to have to reinstall Ubuntu or anything?02:27
Ximal!hello ubotu02:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hello ubotu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:27
Ximalughh..02:27
LiMaOlee_: did you see the tab with my name?02:27
Ximalok.. nough playing around.. sorry usser02:27
LiMaOlee_: read what's written on it02:27
XimalI was hoping it had some type of interaction/karma system02:27
lee_success02:27
lee_to much to read lol02:28
LiMaOlee02:28
LiMaOdid you typed that command?02:28
lee_ok02:28
lee_yes02:28
joe_usser : found the name /dev/hda4 but having issue in terminal, one minute02:28
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disconnectedrust: that link just gives you cmdline to change the dpi same as in the system>prefs menu02:28
LiMaOlee_: the one i wrote on the private message?02:28
LiMaOwhat happened after you typed it?02:29
rustdisconnected: the first one does, try the last link I sent02:29
lee_it executed a bunch of code02:29
Danniliondoes anyone know why I get sound but only a green fuzzy picture when trying to watch videos on my gutsy desktop box? It's on every player I have on there.02:29
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lee_13/10/2007 17:27:41 deleted 0 tile_row polling images.02:29
lee_whit that at the ending02:30
rustdisconnected: it's for X.  Like I said im not at the compu I had a problem with so I can't check what I did and I can't remember, but it was to do with DPI02:30
lee_something aobut rena mming mouse02:30
rustdisconnected: just keep searching google for ubuntu huge fonts login02:30
lee_and  jsut a sec02:30
LiMaOlee_: you want an honest suggestion? reinstall your system. use a 32bit system.02:31
lee_ok it gave me this02:31
lee_13/10/2007 17:27:41 passing arg to libvncserver: -f02:31
lee_13/10/2007 17:27:41 passing arg to libvncserver: -passwd02:31
LiMaOlee_: download 32bit feisty02:31
LiMaODO NOT FLOOD THE CHANNEL02:31
LiMaOthere's no need to paste the command output02:31
lee_no I was giving 2 lines only02:32
lee_how did we have it opperational last time?02:32
lee_or is my system goin into security of somekind02:32
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joe_usser:  says-   mount point /mount does not exist02:33
lee_I have it on disk Ill ge tit02:33
lee_grrrrrr02:33
Ximalusser : why won't it let me select non-free's ?02:33
lee_hiow aobut if I go with 64 bit fiesty02:33
lee_and trash k?02:33
lee_or waht ever this thing is?02:34
LiMaOlee_: run the script i gave you (the latest version).. and choose OPTION 2 (uninstall) .. then try it again and choose OPTION 1 (install)02:34
disconnectedis there any simple solution for all the added extras needed on a fresh install.......ie codecs, support for file formats, useful progs etc?02:34
usserjoe_: what was the command that gave u this?02:34
LiMaOlee_: try what i just said...02:34
usserXimal: non-free's?02:34
lee_I delted the last version02:34
LiMaOlee_: i'll send it again02:34
LiMaOi'm sending it, accept it02:34
joe_what irc app is there to use in ubuntu gutsy.  I'm using Konversation on my other machine?02:34
Ximallike flash plugin02:34
lee_ok02:34
Ximali don't wanna have to grab it later.. grrr02:34
Powerkingjoe, should be GAIM02:35
Dannilionxchat?02:35
Powerkingor Pidgin, if they used that, (I dont have Gutsy just yet)02:35
Powerkingmight be xchat as well02:35
axjvjoe_: I use chatzilla (firefox plugin, allows me to browse at the same time02:35
joe_usser sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mount02:35
LiMaOif anyone here needs java + flash + mplayer plugins on a 64bit system, just let me know, i have a script that will do it all02:35
usserjoe_: oh u have to create /mount first02:35
axjvErr, firefox EXTENSION, I mean.02:35
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usserjoe_: but one already exists /mnt02:35
usserjoe_: so try to mount it there02:36
usserXimal: hm apt-get flashplugin-nonfree ?02:36
axjvDo you guys know of any fixes for the video not staying on the cube face in compiz?02:36
axjvLike, if I play a video.02:36
axjvIn mplayer, vlc, or totem.02:37
joe_usser like so:  sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mnt02:37
LiMaOlee_: read your private message02:37
usserjoe_: yep02:37
Powerkingaxjv, thats an issue with compiz, from what i've been told its a problem they do not have a fix for02:37
Ximalusser : hmm.. i wanna BackUP the non-free plugins/aps02:38
PowerkingIt deals with the app, some Java apps do that (if not all Java Apps)02:38
axjvPowerking: Oh, so the bug will still be present in the official release?02:38
LiMaOlee_: are you there??02:38
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usserXimal: oh that never happening :)02:38
jttsince the RC is out can anyone tell me how it differs from the daily cdimages?02:38
Powerkingaxjv: I would suppose so02:38
lee_yeah I am here02:38
LiMaOlee_: read my tab, the private message02:39
lee_It uninstaleld02:39
Ximalit will if i got something to do about it.. I just wish I knew the command/way to alter aptoncd to remove protection02:39
usserXimal: what does it say anyway?02:39
Ximal* guess it's time to buy "hacking ubuntu" *02:39
LiMaOlee_: now read the private message02:39
usserXimal: hang on02:39
LiMaOlee_: i need you to type that command (the one in the private message)02:39
lee_it has been typed in02:40
usserjoe_: once u done that if there was no error do cd /mnt02:40
LiMaOok, now wait02:40
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lee_and exectuted02:40
usserjoe_: and sudo mkdir aaa02:40
LiMaOlee_: the last command?02:40
usserjoe_: if u see that aaa there then it mounted fine02:40
LiMaOlee_: can you read my private messages?02:40
lee_13/10/2007 17:39:51 deleted 0 tile_row polling images.02:40
LiMaOlee_: the command was different02:41
LiMaOlee_: you probably typed the same command from before02:41
LiMaOlook carefully at the command, and type it in your konsole02:41
lee_I actually cut and pasted it02:41
LiMaOlee_: but did you read the latest message that i sent you?02:42
pwnt-why does ubuntu make everything in one partition, I'm confused02:42
lee_yes02:42
joe_usser: I did that, where am I supposed to see the aaa or my drive?02:42
lee_I tpyed the whole thing in02:42
lee_or pasted it..02:42
LiMaOlee_: try running the script i sent you.. choose to INSTALL it now (option 1)02:43
LiMaOif it doesn't work, give up and download ubuntu feisty 32bit02:43
LiMaOand you will have no problems with it02:43
lee_ok02:43
lee_I wish I new why my stem was locking you out02:43
nomasteryodaoh my... still working that firefox32?02:43
nomasteryodahehe02:43
LiMaOlol02:44
LiMaOnomasteryoda: you see how patient i am02:44
nomasteryoda+D02:44
LiMaOheheh02:44
nomasteryodadang right02:44
usserjoe_: the mount didnt give any errors?02:45
usserjoe_: open up file manager as root and navigate to that /mnt folder02:45
LiMaOthe script is suberb.. it almost talks to the user.. and still he gets errors heh02:45
[MH] NarcismLaptoAnyone know why 7.10 install crashes after in LiveMode after it checks my partitions?02:45
nomasteryodahey, let it install festival and it could .. .hehe02:45
lee_mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/': File exists02:45
usserjoe_: did u fat32 partition have any files before, u should see them in /mnt02:46
pwnt-so why nobody answer me here. My 4th question and it got ignored too.02:46
lee_but its continuing02:46
joe_usser no errors02:46
pwnt-am I invisible02:46
rustpwnt-: why wouldn't you want everything in 1 partition?02:46
lee_ok now taht it has done this02:46
joe_usser how do I open file manager as root?02:46
LiMaOlee_: oh wait02:46
LiMaOlee_: let me change something02:46
usserjoe_: so it probably worked, gksu nautilus02:46
pwnt-rust: I want swap for ram. and saparate partition for /home incase I want a recovery or something bad happens.02:46
lee_ok  unistalling it then02:46
rustpwnt-: Is there no way during the install of doing that?  (Can't say I've installed ubuntu from scratch in quite a while)02:47
usserpwnt-: ubuntu is aimed at users most of them dont know about partitioning so it doesnt bother with partitioning02:47
rustpwnt-: it should have set you up a swap partition during the install02:47
Powerkingrust, you need to manually partition your drives during install02:48
joe_usser: found it02:48
pwnt-rust: no i have no swap02:48
rustPowerking: really, get that.  I've only ever installed ubuntu twice, once on my home and once at work!02:48
lee_ok I have had no problems once isaved it to the card ad do things02:48
LiMaOlee_: uninstall it... and delete that script.. i'l send you one that will get it done02:48
lee_when it comes from any other fil ....ferget it02:48
usserjoe_: so u're convinced its your partition? ;)02:48
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pwnt-usser: I checked up my partitions. I have no swap. no other partition, everything is on 1 single partition.02:48
Powerkingrust: relax, I used the wrong user :p02:49
rustlol02:49
[MH] NarcismLaptoMy install doesn't go that far, I crash after it starts the partitioner...02:49
usserpwnt-: its the default scheme as ppl mentioned u should have selected manual partitioning during setup02:49
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joe_usser: yes it is 55 gig and has some folders I put onit02:49
lee_ok it is deletd02:49
LiMaOlee_: i'm sending you the new file, accept it02:49
usserpwnt-: theres a way to change the partitions once ubuntu installed but its not at all trivial02:49
PseudoAlright, I was told compiz fusion was pre-packaged with Ubuntu 7.10 beta, but compiz --replace isn't working and  I don't have the preferences. Any ideas?02:49
rustPowerking: I wasn't being sarky, i didn't remember you had to manually do it02:49
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usserjoe_: so now lets move to fstab02:50
usserjoe_: gksu gedit /etc/fstab02:50
usserjoe_: make sure /dev/hda4 isnt there already02:50
tattersis the Encrypted Filesystems Installer available in gutsy already?02:50
Powerkingrust: its all cool :D02:50
rustpwnt-: on the bright side, if you nuke your install you can always boot a live cd to get your /home files/02:50
usserjoe_: add this to the end /dev/hda4 /winshare     auto    defaults        0       202:51
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pwnt-rust: how do i get my home files on livecd when they are all in same partition i dont get it02:51
pwnt-usser: can i fix my partitions after installation and not lose updates/files etc?02:51
joe_usser: quick question first-  hda1 which is my windows ntfs part shows up on the desktop and in media.  When we are done wil this part be there too?02:51
usserjoe_: dont forget to create a mount point. sudo mkdir /winshare02:51
rustpwnt-: I guess there was an assumption there that you have a USB key or Cd writer02:51
pwnt-I don't even have gutsy livecd. I got fiesty and upgraded to gutsy with "sudo update-manager -d"02:51
Davy_Jonesi wanna request a feature in evince.. is this the right channel?02:52
usserjoe_: yea sure we arent changing it02:52
lee_it executed and completed02:52
usserpwnt-: yes u can but its not trivial02:52
LiMaOlee_: now close all your firefox02:52
lee_with no pauses in its execion02:52
rustpwnt-: you can recover files from an ubuntu install using a suse live cd if you wanted.02:52
lee_eh fir fox was aloready closed02:52
LiMaOnow run it02:52
LiMaOeither with firefox3202:53
rustpwnt-: to be honest it's probably not worth worrying about until it happens.02:53
lee_any o way02:53
LiMaOor if you made it the default browser just load it normally02:53
pwnt-rust: allright02:53
lee_ok02:53
joe_usser: no I mean Is there a way for the fat32 part to be on desktop and media so its easily accessible?02:53
pwnt-usser: how to check on my all partitions?02:53
rustpwnt-: and if it IS worth worrying about then just putting it on another patition wouldn't cut it, you should be backing it up!02:53
pwnt-rust: back it up in where? a cd or online?02:54
usserjoe_: yes u can add it there i dont know how its done in gnome in kde u can just right click and *add link to device* to the desktop02:54
rustpwnt-: either.02:54
lee_no go02:54
pwnt-rust: what you usually do to backup your files.02:55
LiMaOlee_: run the script again02:55
lee_what was the verry first script you enst me taht worked?02:55
LiMaOuse the INSTALL option02:55
lee_ok02:55
LiMaOlee_: that 1st script does the same as this one02:55
rustpwnt-: At home I only back up my photos, and they go on an external hard disk02:55
rustpwnt-:  and CD, and a website!02:55
lee_ok going to it closing fire fox or leave it open02:55
LiMaOclose it all02:55
LiMaOrun the script and tell me what happens02:56
LiMaOno need to paste02:56
tattersis encrypted filesystem installer an option yet in gutsy installation process?#02:56
lee_ok02:56
LiMaOjust tell me if it asks everything, if it does everything02:56
joe_usser, If I have everything working in gnome like I want it, like wireless and media (flash, wmv) and I add on the kde desktop should everything still work fine?02:56
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lee_ok closing everything including the chat02:56
Davy_Jonesi wanna request a feature in evince.. is this the right channel?02:56
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Powerking89670Davy_Jones: This is the Ubuntu Gutsy Help Channel02:57
just-njHi there, just installed gutsy on my acer aspire and the usb ports have stopp02:58
usserjoe_: hows it going?02:58
just-njed working02:58
just-njHey joe02:58
wabzhi, I'm trying to upgrade to gutsy, the updater thing has been sitting on upgrading gcj for a good half hour now (and doesn't seem to be getting anywhere) - what should I do?02:58
rustdavy_jones: try http://www.gnome.org/projects/evince/02:58
Davy_JonesPowerking89670: there doesn't seem to be a #evince channel02:58
Davy_Jonesthansk rust02:58
Davy_Jonesthanks*02:58
rustDavy_Jones: np02:58
boselecta15 seconds to comply02:58
joe_usser:  I'm used to using kde but in ver 6.10 I could never get wireless working on my hp laptop.  with gutsy gnome I was surprised how easy it was.02:59
dav-eAre there any plans to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/24124 ?  I just got hit by that bug and it ruined by ubuntu installation...02:59
ubotuLaunchpad bug 24124 in kdebase "Screen Saver doesnt unlock during upgrade" [Medium,Incomplete] 02:59
rustouch!02:59
joe_usser: working on it.02:59
dav-eer, my installation03:00
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Powerking89670dav-e: Thats a nasty bug, it destoryed the recovery console and everything?03:01
TreMobylDavy_Jones: #evince on irc.gnome.org03:01
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lee_it failed but..03:02
Davy_JonesTreMobyl: perfect03:02
lee_I think there is a reason why03:02
TreMobylDavy_Jones: de nada03:02
lee_Your selection (y/n): connected.03:02
lee_HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently03:02
joe_usser:  in fstab I think hda4 may already be there?03:02
usserjoe_: whats the line?03:03
usserjoe_: paste it here03:03
lee_301 moved permently is not a good thing to have lol03:03
dav-eI was able to get in recovery console, but not launch the gui or anything.  So ATM I'm just going to wipe that partition and start anew, once I can figure out a way to customize the CD with what to install from within XP03:03
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wabzthis is gay, how do I make the distribution upgrade continue past gcj?03:03
LiMaOlee_: PLEASE, reinstall your system. download Ubuntu (with gnome) FEISTY 32bit03:04
lee_erg03:04
lee_ok03:04
lee_wht the heck is it doing?03:04
LiMaOis WHAT doing?03:04
lee_ok shutitng down and rein stalling03:04
LiMaOok03:04
lee_my computer03:05
Powerking89670wabz: gcj is the gnu java compiler03:05
Davy_Jones/server irc.gnome.org03:05
lee_assside form being a total ...03:05
Powerking89670wabz: Do you plan on compiling any Java?03:05
joe_usser:  I cant paste or copy.   thats why Im a little slow.  using Konversation on another machine.  I don't know how to find the irc client on gutsy knome03:05
lee_ok shutting down03:05
usserjoe_: is there like a long line UID="..." and on the line after that #/dev/hda403:06
wabzPowerking89670: Yes I do, I know what gcj is, the problem is that the update process is stuck on it (dpkg has been going on it for quite a while now)03:06
Davy_Jones103:06
usserjoe_: UUID03:06
ussersorry03:06
Powerking89670wabz: give me 30seconds to check something so your entire installation is not ruined :p03:07
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orionrhey03:07
joe_usser:  # /dev/hda4 then a line under uuid=457...    /windows  vfat  defaults... 0    103:07
orionrim having a problem with my ati card and desktop effects when i click enable it says "component extension is not available"03:07
orionri have an ati video card03:08
usserjoe_: can u pastebin it from that other machine03:08
rustOk people, I'm begging now.  Does anybody know about XGL (im in xgl hell)03:09
usserjoe_: www.pastebin.ca03:09
Powerking89670wabz: I'm looking into weither pressing ctrl + c will skip that one installation, or cancel the entire upgrade03:09
wabzthe "Distribution Upgrade" window has become unresponsive btw03:10
joe_usser: 73598503:11
Powerking89670Ahh, well then, I suppose we have no other options then...are you setup for pm's? (IE Registered on this server)03:11
wabzyes03:11
Powerking89670okay I'm going to continue this in Pm03:11
wabzcan't wait ;)03:11
joe_http://www.pastebin.ca/73598503:11
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joe_usser:  I think it was already mounted, I just didn't know how to find it.  I found it now uner /windows03:12
usserjoe_: oh u're all set man, it was there from the beggining03:12
usserjoe_: yea :)03:12
usserjoe_: can u create files there though03:13
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joe_usser: let my try03:13
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MTecknologyI installed git, but I can't use the command git03:17
bqmasseyhow do i get a mac style toolbar, as can be seen in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w03:17
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joe_usser: yeah I saved on office document there.  any idea in gnome how put the drive on desktop or places like the ntfs is?03:18
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PSPJunkieHey03:18
usserjoe_: try rightclicking see if it lets u add shortcuts/links03:19
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PSPJunkieI was having problems with my wifi card in the first beta of kubuntu, so i updated to the rc and now that works. Unfortunately, my laptop will not charge anymore. Has anyone had similar problems?03:19
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mattgso why should i upgrade???03:20
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PSPJunkieHm. No one?03:24
PSPJunkieIt's a rather important feature with a laptop xD03:24
DannilionI have no idea why your laptop has stopped charging03:24
bqmasseythere any good download managers for ubuntu?03:24
Powerking89670PSPJunkie: I agree it is important, but I cannot help you :p03:24
DannilionI would have thought that was a hardware problem rather than a software problem03:24
Danniliondoes it still charge when the laptop is switched off>03:24
Dannilion?03:24
Powerking89670mattg: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc03:24
PSPJunkieDannilion: I haven't tried, i'll check next time i turn it off03:25
Powerking89670nvm03:25
DannilionI cannot see why Linux would stop it charging03:25
Dannilion(though it may stop reporting it's charging- but that's a different problem)03:25
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PSPJunkieWell, personally, that's what I think it is03:26
PSPJunkieBecause it isn't as if it dies and turns off when i unplug it03:26
joe_usser: no luck yet but thanks.  if I mounted it on /media/hda4 like nfs shows in fstab would that do it?03:26
PSPJunkieBut it always reports a 0% charge03:26
Dannilionmy power thingie often goes weird- reporting there is no battery and stuff... but a restart cures that03:26
Dannilionwhat's the output of acpi on the console?03:26
PSPJunkieWell, I haver restarted many times03:26
PSPJunkiehold on03:26
PSPJunkieI need to reinstall yakuake D:03:27
Powerking89670*sigh* whistles waiting for the .iso to finish downloading! :p03:27
Powerking89670PSPJunkie: yakuake FTW03:27
pwnt-Powerking89670: what are u downloading03:27
PSPJunkieDannilion: http://pb.malloc.us/m4c65193b03:28
Powerking89670pwnt-: Gutsy Gibbon03:28
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pwnt-Powerking89670: final or beta?03:28
PSPJunkieYeah, yakuake saves a ton of headaches. Much faster than launching konsole every time xD03:28
Powerking89670beta final isnt out for 5days03:28
Powerking89670beta; final*03:29
Dannilionokay... that page isn't loading for me PSPJunkie03:29
pwnt-Powerking89670: cool, but you had fiesty why not just upgrade? Instead of downloading a beta iso03:29
Powerking89670pwnt- fiesty wont boot properly, login screen is fubar03:29
usserjoe_: im not sure what are u talking about?03:29
Powerking89670I'm in recovery console atm03:29
pwnt-Powerking89670: ic03:29
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Dannilionokay... something's wrong with acpi03:31
PSPJunkieDannilion: odd.... http://rafb.net/p/O3KPfC41.html03:31
Dannilionthough I get quite a bit03:31
Dannilion(sorry... other computer hogging all the bandwidth)03:31
PSPJunkieAh, gotcha03:31
bqmasseycan someone help me install DJVu for Firefox?  i did what I thought i was supposed to, but it hasn't worked03:31
PSPJunkieCan I update acpi?03:31
Dannilionwhat does it say when you take the charger out?03:32
Dannilion(and since it's only one line you can probably get away with pasting straight in here :p)03:32
PSPJunkie"Battery 1: discharging, 0%,  remaining"03:32
bqmasseythat's a reporting error i'm sure03:32
PSPJunkieDannilion: I know xD I just like pastebins, pasting in irc is annoying03:32
DannilionI agree for more than one line03:32
PSPJunkieEven so, its' a habit03:33
Dannilionjust with my current bandwidth problem it's easier for you to post in here :p03:33
PSPJunkieHeh03:33
PSPJunkieNoted :P03:33
Dannilionyeah... that's a reporting error- can't remember how I fixed that03:33
Dannilionlast happened to me in Dapper03:33
Dannilion(mine now just tells me there is no battery... when I'm running from it :P)03:34
PSPJunkieWell, it actually worked fine in 7.04, until i let adept update all my packages03:34
PSPJunkieThen it I updated to rc, and it still doesn't work03:34
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Dannilionyeah03:36
bqmasseyanyone familiar with djvu?03:37
joe_usser: that ok, thanks for all your help.  I found it in the places menu so thats easy enough to find,  thanks again03:38
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LiMaOdo you people know of the flight simulator in google-earth?03:46
MisterN__yep03:46
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LiMaOso cool =D03:47
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joe_anyone i just installed gutsy w gnome desktop and got the wireless working on my hp laptop.  if I load the kde desktop is there any chance this will mess up the wireless03:48
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PSPJunkiesudo apt-get remove acpi; sudo apt-get install acpi03:50
PSPJunkie^^ didn't work03:50
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bretzelhi I need to know where can I get the "rmev" program supposedly comming with gpm... not there... ( mev does not work in X ( xterm... )03:51
PSPJunkieI dunno, I can't seem tjuliusing via googleo find anyth03:51
PSPJunkie:|03:51
PSPJunkieI can't seem to find anything via google *03:51
bqmasseywould someone mind helping me install djvu?03:52
Powerking89670bqmassey, whats the the problem?03:52
joe_I installed gutsy 7.10 rc.  It is so much easier to get everything up and running than 6.10 was.  Gutsy is a great improvement.03:52
bqmasseyi did "sudo apt-get install djvulibre-plugin03:53
Powerking89670joe_: thanks for the consoling words as I will be going down for the install very soon03:53
bqmasseyi did "sudo apt-get install djvulibre-plugin"03:53
bqmasseyand it didn't work.. i don't know why... i saw it download the package03:54
bqmasseybut the plugin isn't showing up in firefox03:54
Powerking89670gimme a sec03:54
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stiev3is there typically a final release that differs from the release candidate the day of release?... In general terms, is there a reason to hold off another 5 days?03:55
boselectafor some reason firefox keeps trying to open realmedia streams (from the BBC website) using the mplayer plugin03:55
boselectaany help?03:55
boselectai have installed the realplayer stuff03:55
joe_powerking:  really 6.10 was my first time using linux.  It was weeks with the learning curve just trying to get flash movies to play in firefox.03:55
Powerking89670stiev3: the idea of a release cantidate is to do bug checking on a massive scale, if something major needs changed, there will likely be a differance03:56
Powerking89670joe_ : I was more lucky, I picked up linux in < 2 hours...it just seemed so natural03:56
Powerking89670bqmassey: I'm still working :D03:56
bqmasseyPowerking89670: :) thanks03:56
Powerking89670bwmassey: where did you install the plugin from? Is it in the default respositories?03:57
boselectaweird: according to about:plugins, for some reason realmedia is owned by the mplayer plugin. how do i change that?03:57
joe_powerking: and I never could get the wireless working on my hp laptop, broadcom wireless, but in gutsy it prompted me for everything and showed the restricted package i would need for wireless03:58
Powerking89670joe_ : wireless is the one thing I have not done, and dread the most03:58
Powerking89670bqmassey: where did you install the plugin from? Is it in the default respositories?03:58
bqmasseyi just typed what i told you earlier03:58
bqmasseyafter enabling Universe03:59
joe_powerking: the firefox plugins load real easy to like flash wmv divx media etc03:59
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Powerking89670bqmassey try the following: "sudo aptitude purge djvulibre-plugin"04:01
Powerking89670and then try "sudo aptitude install djvulibre-plugin"04:01
Powerking89670if that does not work, I do not know :-/, sorry04:01
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Powerking89670( I prefer aptitude because it is smarter than apt-get)04:02
stiev3more noob questions: will there be any benefit to starting with a fresh install?  So used to reformatting when going from one version to another on other operating systems.04:02
nosrednaekimstiev3: not really.04:02
Powerking89670stiev: the new OS smell04:02
nosrednaekimstiev3: sometimes upgrades break.. but then you just do a  clean install04:02
nosrednaekim(and they always break immediately)04:03
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bqmasseyPowerking89670: ok.. the install is going04:04
bqmasseyPowerking89670: what's all of this doing differently that what I typed in?04:04
bqmasseyit's installing konquerer04:04
Powerking89670bqmassey: the first command removed everything of the first install, the second command is installing it with aptitude, which is like apt-get only in my opinion better because it finds dependancies alot more efficiently04:04
bqmasseyic04:05
Powerking89670bqmassey: yea, it may do that...just do a "sudo aptitude purge konqueror" if you dont want konqueror after the djvu install04:05
Powerking89670this MAY or may not work, I've never used djvu :p04:05
joe_powerking: really was a breeze, gutsy told me I needed some broadcom fwcutter package.  i downlowded then it sent me to the firmware and it was working and broadcom is the worst for compatabilty w linux04:06
bqmasseyi'm only want it cause a helicopter magazine i read put's the issues online in DJVu for free04:06
Powerking89670bqmassey : you could try getting the converter instead of the plugin04:06
bqmasseyyeah, i might try that04:07
Powerking89670bqmassey: I think it is djvulibre-bin04:07
Powerking89670bqmassey: do a "sudo aptitude search [string]  to have aptitude look in your repositories04:07
Powerking89670.iso burn almost complete04:08
Powerking89670bqmassey: I will (soon) be rebooting into the live CD of Gutsy, after I get into Gutsy I will come in here, so dont think I've left because I disappear for 5-8min04:10
bqmasseyPowerking89670: cool, thanks for the help04:10
Powerking89670bqmassey: no problem, I'm bored waiting for this iso to burn anyways :p04:10
bqmasseyhahahaha...   I just saw another hilarious Captain commercial04:10
Powerking89670okay...I'll be back in approx 8min04:11
bqmasseyPowerking89670: i couldn't stand the live cd for very long.. its such a slow way to work04:12
bqmasseygood luck04:12
boselectawhy in the heck is it so hard to get realplayer working with BBC Website04:13
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pope hi, i'm having a problem with ubuntu 7.1/ GNOME 2.2:  Full screen Apps only fill 1/2 the screen. Any reason why?04:13
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|neon|have anyone try vdkb2 with gutsy i installed it but it wont run this is the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40594/04:15
joe_k04:16
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Powerking89670I like gutsy so far, lets see how the install goes :D04:17
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stiev3can I expect a more textmate-esque gedit in gutsy?04:18
Powerking89670hmmm, lets see04:18
bqmasseyis there an undo function in the terminal?04:19
popeanyone have any suggestions for non-working full screen?04:19
Powerking89670define textmate-esque04:19
Powerking89670bqmassey: what do you mean?04:19
bqmasseythat didn't work04:20
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bqmasseyit installed a lot of things though.. i just wondered if there was a rollback kind of command04:20
bqmassey(i'm new to linux)04:20
bqmasseybut i can just purge them all individually04:20
Powerking89670bqmassey: hmm, stupid aptitude and its desire to install everything on the face of the earth04:20
riotkittieno, there's no roll back command :o04:20
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Powerking89670I'll need to make note of this : Do not use aptitude when you need to install a plugin. Okay :D04:21
Powerking89670just use remove on the ones you do not need04:21
stiev3from what little I've read it handles themes a lot better... guess that applies across the board for gnome2.2 or whatever04:21
Powerking89670watch your purges :p04:21
Powerking89670I hope it does stiev3...thats why I lost my old install....the theme killed my login screen...which meant I couldnt use it at all04:22
popehow did you install them?  if you installed them through terminal, scroll back through your commands and replace 'install' with 'remove'....i use that method sometimes04:22
bqmasseykcontrol, kdebase-data, kfind, kicker, konqueror, libarts1-mpeglib, libavcodec1d, libavutil1d, libgsm1, libpostproc1d, libxine1-ffmpeg, mpeglib04:22
Powerking89670ahh, I see why, its a kde plugin, and your running gnome :p04:22
bqmasseylol yep04:22
atselbyhello, i was in the middle of dist-upgrading to gutsy RC, when my laptop unexpectadly shut off and now i am having problems with GDM. It tells me that the greeting manager has crashed, and wants to try an alternative, but i dont think i have one, or that is not working either. can anyone help me?04:22
bqmasseywell.. djvu isn't i dont think...04:23
bqmasseymaybe so04:23
Powerking89670atselby: give me a minute, I need to find the force command for apt-get04:23
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atselbypowerking89670, okay thanks.04:23
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Powerking89670okay, atselby: try this, open a terminal04:24
atselbyhold on, need to boot it.04:24
Powerking89670kk :D04:25
atselbyand i cant open a terminal by the way.04:25
Powerking89670okay, when you start booting04:25
atselbyhow can i go to terminal on boot?04:25
Powerking89670you get to the grub boot loader correct?04:25
atselbyyes04:25
Powerking89670okay, when it starts ticking off 3, 2, 1 hit esc04:25
atselbyk04:25
atselbyrecovery mode?04:26
Powerking89670and choose the recovery console for your kernel (usually right under it)04:26
Powerking89670indeed04:26
atselbyokay04:26
Powerking89670it'll boot, and then it will come to a point and ask you for the root password, do you know your root password?04:26
atselbyyes04:26
Powerking89670okay, at that point you'll enter the password04:26
Powerking89670and you'll be a terminal :D04:26
atselbyokay, i couldnt remember if recovery was terminal or not. thanks.04:26
atselbyso now what?04:26
Powerking89670at the terminal type04:27
Powerking89670apt-get update04:27
Powerking89670then after that is done04:27
Powerking89670apt-get upgrade04:27
atselby"dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure =a" to correct this problem."04:27
Powerking89670okay, do that04:27
atselbyk04:28
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atselbyi want to install the package maintainers version right?04:28
boselectaeven though i started with linux at 0.99pl18, i think it's terrible that a modern distribution still won't play news clips from the BBC website. that's my litmus test.04:28
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chris_this touch pad problem is really annoying me... how do i recompile my synaptic driver?04:28
Powerking89670atselby: yes04:28
atselbyokay.04:29
Demizequit (Just testing my client, name too un-family-friendly to say here)04:29
atselbyso, just so i get whats going on, im basically finishing the install now?04:29
Powerking89670yup04:29
chris_i get lots of these..., [  117.856000]  psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1 <new line> [  117.856000]  psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request04:29
atselbyokay04:29
chris_anyone want to help me recompile psmouse.c?04:30
atselbychris_ was this for a touchpad? did you use synaptics?04:30
Powerking89670chris_: I would, but I hate compiling :p04:30
chris_it is a synaptic touchpad....04:30
chris_i have not edited anything as i have never needed 2....04:31
atselbywait, sorry must have misread that... thought oyu were trying to install synaptics package.04:31
atselbyi can't help on compiling, sorry.04:31
chris_no no no..., i just downloaded ubuntu rc1 i guess it would be from ubuntu.com and i installed it and i am getting all of these errors in dmesg....04:32
bqmasseyhow would i go about starting firefox in a way that i can rear any error messages04:32
Powerking89670start it in the terminal04:32
chris_bqmassey, from the terminal04:32
bqmasseyok.. just run 'firefox' from the terminal?04:32
Powerking89670bqmassey: yes04:32
atselbyif its from a fresh install.04:32
bqmasseyok.. it opened up firefox.. no returns... just a new line04:33
Powerking89670then there are no errors04:33
chris_all this is from a fresh install......04:33
bqmasseymk04:33
d4rkmonkeymine says stuff04:33
bqmasseyi wonder if there's a debug mode04:33
atselbyfirefox -h for help or options? im not sure04:33
Powerking89670d4rkmonkey: how many lines?04:34
d4rkmonkeyPowerking89670 like 504:34
Powerking89670hmmm...where is that pasteboard04:34
d4rkmonkey4 of them have to do with errors I think, first was like.. loaded md5 or something04:34
atselby!pastebin04:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:34
atselby?04:34
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d4rkmonkeywhatever my firefox runs fine04:34
Powerking89670oh, alright then :D04:34
Powerking89670Gutsy Gibbin: INSTALLING! WOOT!04:35
d4rkmonkeyhmm, except...04:35
Powerking89670d4rkmonkey: goto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then give me the link you get after you paste it :D04:35
d4rkmonkeynone of the videos from gametrailers will play on my comp, unless I download the wmv or quicktime, turn off compiz, and play them there... my flash works fine though for things like youtube and google video.. I'm thinking that the gametrailers video player is poorly coded04:36
chris_this is what my dmesg says...... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40596/04:36
Powerking89670compiz has problems with videos, thats normal; however it may be poorly coded04:36
atselbyd4rkmonkey: are the videos flash based?04:37
chris_compiz + moving stuff = BAH!!! lol04:37
quigzlol04:37
d4rkmonkeyatselby yeah, the gametrailers one, I have to download non-flash one to play it...04:37
atselbyhuhm...04:37
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atselbyi've actually never had problems with compiz and video, it just took some config, but i cant think of the options.04:37
Powerking89670chris_: when do you get all this?04:37
d4rkmonkeyatselby I dunno, my chipset was blacklisted I think because of video issues, and I just commented out the line...04:37
chris_when my mouse messes up04:37
wabzPowerking89670: the update-manager ended up completely locking up my machine - mouse wasn't responsive, couldn't ssh to it, so I hit the restart button, got a console, ran dpkg --configure -a and it seemed to continue the upgrade without a problem, all working now04:38
Powerking89670have you reported it as a bug?04:38
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chris_no..., there are like 8 other things like this....04:38
chris_but on older versions form what i can tell...04:38
Powerking89670wabz: Lucky I had that convo with atselby then eh?04:38
Powerking89670:p04:38
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d4rkmonkeygamevideos.com work fine, but gametrailers.com doesn't...04:38
atselbysame thing wabz ?04:38
wabzcompiz doesn't work (don't get window decorations), but that's a good thing04:38
wabzI dunno I haven't read that convo yet04:39
atselbyah. my machine actually just shut off in teh middle of installing the upgrades.04:39
Powerking89670wabz: nevermind, I had him do what you did, didnt know you did it on your own :p04:39
chris_should i rereport it?, ive found bugs like it but all deal with 7.04 and under....04:39
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nosrednaekimchris_: absolutely04:39
Powerking89670if its for gutsy gibbon why not04:39
Powerking89670bug reporting is a great way to help out a project04:40
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Powerking89670I personally have no idea what all this code errors means, but I'm sure a developer does04:40
atselbypowerking89670, cant apt-get update, evidently no internet connection.04:40
Powerking89670you installing from cd?04:41
atselbyno, dist upgrade.04:41
chris_what package would this be???04:41
Powerking89670dist-upgrade is upgrading from the only repositories04:41
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Powerking89670online*04:41
stevehow do I get rid of pidgin without it killing gaim too? I had gaim before I upgraded to gutsy but now I just have this crap04:41
whiteOwlalas gutsy seems too gutsy - My Averatec laptop can no longer boot the install cd - X won't start properly - this is a regression from 7.04 and yes I filed a bug. The 7.10 beta would not boot even in safe graphics mode. I just wasted 2 hours playing with the new 7.10 release candidate and it does eventually get to a warning box (easily 5 or more mins) IF I boot with vga=771 - the warning says I'm in low res mode a04:41
Powerking89670steve: what is wrong with pidgin?04:41
ussersteve: what?04:41
chris_steve, gaim changed its name to pidgin....04:42
SeanConnery steve pidgen *is* gaim...04:42
steveI am aware of that04:42
ussersteve: pidgin is gaim04:42
nosrednaekimchris_: just say its the kernel.04:42
ussersteve: and theres no gaim in gutsy04:42
thompai am installing the latest daily build and the fonts and some things look better04:42
PseudoHow would i add a plugin to pidgin manually?04:42
atselbypowerking89670, so what should i do? skip update/upgrade? i already had downloaded all of the updates, itwas just in the middle of installing them.04:42
steveI want to know why it replaced a program I didn't want it to04:42
ussersteve: which one?04:42
SeanConnerysteve, if you want to use an earlier version, you have to compile it yourself or get the deb from somewhere04:42
Powerking89670atselby: yes then :D04:42
ussersteve: gaim?04:42
SeanConnerysteve, the gaim package was likely updated to pidgin04:42
thompamy question is, why the upgrade did not change this04:42
stevehrm.04:42
atselbyokay. so, whatw was next then?04:43
SeanConnerythompa, yeah I'd like to know why as well04:43
atselbyreboot and gdm should be fine?04:43
Powerking89670atselby: I can only hope so :p04:43
atselbyokay, thanks.04:43
SeanConnerythompa, my guess is that if you rm -rf $HOME then your fonts will be ok04:43
thompai need to find out what is not updated. like a fix-fonts graphic driver or something04:43
steveis there a way to prevent it from changing it in the future? this isn't my main system and I can just format it with feisty again04:43
SeanConnerythe configuration hell hole that is gconf-editor warrants that04:43
Powerking89670atselby: no problem, If not I did my best :-/04:43
atselbysteve, gaim was upgraded to pidgin in gutsy.04:43
SeanConneryunless someone can tell me that gconf-editor is really file-based04:43
steveI understand that04:43
steveI don't want it04:44
thompaSeanConnery: or just create a new user04:44
atselbyif you want the old appearence of gaim theres a skin of it somewhere.04:44
ussersteve why?04:44
SeanConnerythompa, yes04:44
chris_how do i file a bug report for gutsy?04:44
nosrednaekimsteve: if you just install gaim.. I don't think it will prompt you to upgrade it to pidgin04:44
SeanConnerysteve, I don't think you can pin a package version04:44
nosrednaekim!bugs04:44
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots04:44
thompaso is the problem gdm only04:44
atselbyyeah it shouldnt ask you to do that.04:44
atselbysteve, what dont you want in pidgin?04:44
stevewhat if I made an equivs dummy package of pidgin? would that just shut it up?04:44
thompai am still running live and its awesome 6404:44
SeanConnerysteve, why are you fighting the package maintainers04:45
steve'cause gaim isn't broken04:45
nosrednaekimsteve: install gaim and lock its version04:45
atselbypowerking89670, still crashing.. :( do you know of a way to bypass gdm via terminal?04:45
stevehey, a helpful answer, thanks04:45
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Powerking89670atselby: get back into the recovery console04:45
atselbyk04:45
steveI'm mostly worried about my laptop, I haven't upgraded it yet and may not at this rate04:46
pvl1Anyone mind helping me with a weird sound issue?04:46
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atselbysteve, i wouldnt yet. looks like there've been some problems with laptops and gutsy. ..04:46
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nosrednaekimpvl1: what is it04:46
nosrednaekimatselby: working fine here on my acer04:46
steveI'm just afraid every time I go into #ubuntu with a question everyone will just tell me to upgrade XD04:46
jrrthe upgrade to gutsy seems to have broken my LVM04:46
Powerking89670atselby: laptops and linux tend to hate each other, its not gutsy :p04:47
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stevefunny, feisty works more or less fine04:47
Powerking89670steve: sorry, I was just wondering what was bad about it, so I could see if it buged me :p04:47
pvl1nosrednaekim i cant record from my microphone. i went into alsamixer nd turned up the recording level, and the sound from my microphone is amplified to my speakers. but my computer wont record sound04:47
atselbytrue. but for me dapper through feisty worked fine04:47
nosrednaekimpvl1: what program are you using to record?04:47
stevenothing's wrong with it, I just like gaim, but having pidgin makes me unable to use gaim, therefore it needs to die04:48
pvl1nosrednaekim well im just using w/e recorded came with the system, i havent gotten around to gettin audacity04:48
atselbypidgin is gaim....04:48
atselbygranted its got a stupid skin and name. but eh.04:48
stevethat's like saying "vista is XP"04:48
steve:P04:48
nosrednaekimpvl1: see if somehwere in there (I use KDE so I haven't a clue where) there is a recoding input device.04:48
stevewell, not really04:48
usseromg steve u're hardcase arent u :)04:49
atselbypowerking89670 what was i needing to do next? to bypass gdm or disable it?04:49
stevebut they're not identical04:49
Powerking89670steve: you cant compare two working programs to two crappy OS's04:49
pvl1nosrednaekim: there is and ive been messin with that too04:49
stevewell, yeah04:49
Powerking89670atselby: type 'startx'04:49
nosrednaekimpvl1: thats my best guess04:49
atselbyk04:49
steveI just hate when something that works is replaced with something else for no real reason04:49
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pvl1nosrednaekim aight thanks04:49
usser!gens04:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gens - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:49
atselbythanks04:49
chris_one last bug...., master volume control does nothing.....04:49
Powerking89670steve: It has the ability to use more IM programs04:49
stevenone I was missing before04:50
Powerking89670steve: most importantly Google Talk :p04:50
steveanywhoo04:50
chris_i press mute and i still hear sound....04:50
Powerking89670steve: to each his own04:50
stevegoogle talk sucks penises and is no use to me04:50
purplebluI have a P3 800mhz 128mb computer, and I was wondering if that is adequate to to run 32bit gutsy Desktop/Alternative?04:50
nosrednaekimyou can actually speak with pidgin now?04:50
atselbyalthought powerking89670, im in xfce not gnome. but i'll see what i can do now. thanks04:50
steveanyone know why gutsy is trying to update a laptop touchpad driver on my desktop?04:50
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nosrednaekimpurpleblu: better get xubuntu04:50
usserpurpleblu: take a lok at xubuntu04:50
Powerking89670atselby: no problem I thought GUI might make things a tiny bit easier on you :p04:50
atselbygrah. it just shut off again.04:50
atselbyokay well, ill give it a try, think my battery is giving out.04:50
atselbythanks.04:51
purplebluI dont want to run xubuntu if I dont have to.  Well it just use swap? Or will it have major hickups04:51
Powerking89670atselby: yea, be sure to make sure you have a stable power connection next dist-upgrade :p04:51
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steveare the debs for all my packages stored somewhere local?04:51
chris_is there anyway to fix the sound master control and the fact that it is useless?04:51
steveI might just save my gaim one and pin it04:51
atselbyhaha. i figured it said i had 3 hours, i would be good.. guess not04:51
atselbythanks04:51
SeanConnerysteve, I'm running gutsy on a laptop right no04:51
nosrednaekimsteve: /var/cache/apt/archives04:51
SeanConneryww04:51
atselbyhopefully i wont have to come back.04:51
atselbyhaha. thanks04:52
SeanConnerysteve, hibernate/suspend work perfectly04:52
usserpurpleblu: it will be sloow04:52
stevewhat04:52
purplebluis xubuntu xfce enviroment?04:52
steveoh, ok04:52
SeanConnerydid I stutter?04:52
SeanConnerylol04:52
d4rkmonkey...04:52
d4rkmonkeypurpleblu no, but it should be.04:52
d4rkmonkeywaite.04:52
d4rkmonkey*wait04:52
d4rkmonkeyI mean..04:52
d4rkmonkeyyes.04:52
chris_hello???04:52
Powerking89670SeanConnery: I thought I heard a bit of a stutter...you might want to articulate a bit better next time :p04:53
d4rkmonkeyI was thinkign xkcd I was like... huh?04:53
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SeanConneryPowerking89670, I'll do my b-b-b-est04:53
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jrrD/04:53
purplebluI am fixing an XP machine for my in-laws.   So what is the performance difference ubuntu versus xubuntu?04:54
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Powerking89670xubuntu runs better on older machines, ubuntu is better supported, and in my opinion better :D04:54
Powerking89670atselby: you came back!04:54
jrryou can use the WM of your choice in ubuntu04:54
jrrxfce speeds things up significantly over gnome, and can be configured to look similar04:55
purplebluin-laws are running XP so how would ubuntu gnome compare with performance?04:55
Powerking89670We'll, Gutsy install is complete...I'll be back up in a little under 2min04:55
Powerking89670purpleblu: hold that thought :p04:55
SeanConnerypurpleblu, depends, if they are good with XP, then performance should be comprable04:55
SeanConneryno not true04:55
chris_anyone wanna help me with my sound issue?04:55
SeanConnerymy downstairs dual-boot xp has gotten slower and slower even though there isn't any sh*t on it04:56
purplebluI mean in comparison to load times.  Xp versus Gnome.  If they want to run say firefox.  How would gnome firefox compare to xp firefox?04:56
SeanConnerypurpleblu, I think its similar04:56
purplebluso would xbuntu be dramatically faster using that scenario?04:57
SeanConneryI JUST HEARD THE UBUNTU BONGOS04:57
SeanConneryBONgo bongo bongo04:57
SeanConnery\o/04:57
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nosrednaekimpurpleblu: yeah... it would be noticabley smoother04:57
weirdbroI've got a dns cache problem04:57
atselbyi can not find login window/gdm config anywhere...04:57
SeanConnerypurpleblu, in the end its not going to matter *one bit* dude04:58
weirdbroGutsy sometimes give dns records of sites I've recently accessed to the wrong domain04:58
chris_:-\04:58
nosrednaekimSeanConnery: what?04:58
SeanConnerynosrednaekim, do you think its going to matter whether ff takes 1.1s to load v 1s?04:58
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nosrednaekimSeanConnery: lol....04:59
SeanConnerywhats going to matter though is the ease of maintenance04:59
kcs80lol04:59
nosrednaekimSeanConnery: it will be awhole lot more dramitc than that04:59
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purplebluwell I dont want to run DSL distro or puppy. so I was wondering.  If they are accustomed to XP on this hardware.  Just wondering how much performance gain would I expect among they other x11 enviroments04:59
|neon|i am running a putty fasr puter and i tell you by far kubuntu is faster than xp and not even go to vista :)04:59
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pvl1nosrednaekim: i came back just to tell ya that i fixed it! this makes me really happy, now i can really work with my guitar] ] 05:00
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nosrednaekimpvl1: lol... I was messing around with my guitar... there are some pretty interesting apps out there.. check out cleox05:00
SeanConnerynosrednaekim, no it doesn't05:01
weirdbroDoes Ubuntu have a way not to cache dns records?05:01
pvl1nosrednaekim will do ty!05:01
weirdbroBecause its caching them wrong05:01
selbyalright, got power, but i can't find the gdm config anywhere.05:01
Null_Sessionnosredneakim:  check out ubuntu:studio05:01
pvl1nosrednaekim oh btw u were half right, it was involved in the app's recording device05:01
nosrednaekimNull_Session: yeah yeah :)05:01
|neon|freaking firefox keeps freezing when i try to open a yahoo game window wtf, java is installed and opera works flawlessly with yahoo games any suggestions05:01
nosrednaekimpvl1: sweet :)05:01
nosrednaekim|neon|: use opera? lol05:01
selbyPowerking89670, cant find gdm/login window config anywhere.05:02
|neon|nosrednaekim: i like ff :(05:02
SeanConneryoh my god I accidentally went to a myspace page05:02
SeanConneryhow noisy05:02
Powerking89670selby: that was the reason I reinstalled Ubuntu :p05:02
pvl1neon: what version java?05:02
|neon|i have java 5 and 6 installed maybe that's my issue05:02
weirdbroGutsy serves the wrong IPs for the domain05:03
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weirdbroI know its a Gutsy problem05:03
weirdbroand not my DNS server05:03
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pvl1neon: no that shouldnt psot a problem. can firefox open other java applets05:04
EnsGabeI'll throw this out here just to see if it's a gutsy issue:  what do I need to do to get kvm working?  I've installed it, loaded the module (kvm-intel for my core 2 duo),  and added my user to the kvm group.  When I run 'kvm -m 512 /dev/sda', it crashes with an exception 13 after selecting the install with grub.  Should this be working?05:04
|neon|pvl1: yes05:04
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|neon|brb have to ctrl+alt+backspace since ff froze cause of yahoo gamers again05:04
atselbyPowerking89670, i would if i have to but i dont want to lose files on here.05:05
atselbyi do have a backup of my /home/ but not of anything else.05:05
Powerking89670atselby: I'm not saying you should, I'm saying thats how I fixed my login screen problem, and thusly dont know how to help you with yours :-/05:05
atselbyPowerking89670, ah so yo uhad it too. okay.05:05
atselbydidnt know that05:05
Powerking89670atselby: I had it for other reasons, but my gdm was crashing05:06
atselbyah.05:06
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atselbyhumh...05:06
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atselbyit looks like gdm just kinda disappeard for me. odd.05:07
Powerking89670atselby: when you find the solution to the problem, please let me know so when it happens to be again I can fix it05:07
atselbyPowerking89670, alright, sure thing05:07
teskoanyone have problems with pidgin?05:07
ussertesko: no05:07
usser:005:07
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teskoi had it freeze on me earlier05:07
ussertesko: whats the problem?05:07
pvl1tesko: no and ty for reminding me to get it05:08
pvl1tasko: whatd u do wen it froze05:08
teskopasted text05:08
teskowoul;d the error show up in dmesg?05:09
pvl1was anything else happenning at the time? and idk05:09
teskono so far gutsy has been better than feisty05:10
pvl1no i mean, like were u installing anything05:10
teskonope05:10
teskojust chatting on irc05:10
pvl1hm. thats really weird, i have no diea as to why that would happen05:11
SeanConneryso steve how is your gaim-adventure going05:12
atselbywhats an alternateive to GDM?05:12
Powerking89670atselby: KDM05:13
SeanConneryatselby, uh oh, you done did it!05:13
steveI'm just leaving it be on this box, gonna figure out how to block it when I upgrade my laptop in a few months05:13
SeanConnerycome on steve05:13
SeanConnerybleeding edge05:13
atselbyPowerking89670, knew i shouoldnt have uninstalled that. haha.05:13
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atselbyguess ill try to install kdm and see if that works.05:13
SeanConneryI've upgraded my sole laptop with every upgrade since dapper05:13
Powerking89670atselby: Its KDE, I personally dislike it, but its useful for some apps like Amarok and its useful when you've got no one WM's that work05:14
steveif it would not be someday necessary I'd just keep feisty05:14
lee_hi05:14
atselbyPowerking89670, yeah, i dislike KDE also.05:14
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lee_LiMaO..hello05:15
LiMaOhello lee_05:15
LiMaOhow are you doing with the 32bit system?05:15
lee_eh Might I ask for one favor....send me that one script that does it all...I am no longer on that but unbunto05:16
lee_it had other issues05:16
lee_lots of other issues05:16
lee_I loaded it with out using the OEM and I couldnt even sign in to it05:16
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lee_plus this one has fire fox05:17
lee_in it already05:17
lee_if not then I'll give it up and head back to my 32 bit05:17
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|neon|now i am really freaking confused  i installed swiftfox and yahoo games work perfectly   now ff regular everytime i try to open yahoo games it freezes to the point i have to restart x to get it to work again :(05:18
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|neon|i know swiftfox is eveil just ask the bot05:19
LiMaOlee_: what are you running now?05:19
lee_Unubunto 64 bit...it not at all like that other POC I was working with05:19
LiMaOubuntu you mean?05:20
lee_eh yes05:20
LiMaObtw, i'm sending the script, accept it05:20
lee_ok05:20
LiMaObe sure to RUN it correctly, READ everything that is said within the script05:20
LiMaOand you will have NO problems05:20
lee_ok05:20
|neon|besides that i'm really pissed someone key my car at the restaurant tonight, people are just F..... stupid05:21
lee_so right click this time05:21
LiMaOlee_: right click, and choose 'run in terminal'05:21
lee_ok lets see if this version has it05:21
LiMaOlee_: you're running gnome now, right? not that kde thing05:21
lee_Iam sure it does05:21
lee_yes genome05:21
LiMaOgnome05:21
lee_that KDE looks fancey but man05:22
lee_I havnt even updated the system yet lol05:22
atselbybrb, trying to use kdm instead of gdm for now.05:22
LiMaO|neon|: i've written a script that will install a 32bit firefox + java + flash + mplayer plugins on your 64bit system. that will avoid crashes and weird stuff. if you're insterested (and is running a 64bit sys) just let me know05:23
lee_well Ilearned that no to linuxes are the same lol05:23
lee_some look pretty and all but can be a real pain05:24
LiMaOlee_: did you manage to run the script properly05:24
LiMaO?05:24
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lee_eh Ididnt even know you sent it yet05:24
lee_eh where is it at?05:24
|neon|LiMaO: thx  am running the 32 ver, i will give the 64 bit a try here in the near future as my quad 6600 oc to 3.9ghz is wanting some challenge05:25
LiMaO|neon|: oh ok, then =)05:25
lee_ok it says starting05:25
lee_is on starting05:25
LiMaOlee_: i'm gonna send it again.. pay attention to the windows05:25
lee_Iam05:26
LiMaOsent it now05:26
LiMaOaccept the transfer05:26
SeanConnerydamnit05:26
SeanConnerynow gutsy isn't booting05:26
lee_where and how?05:26
SeanConnerylee_, talking to me?05:27
lee_Limao05:27
LiMaOomg05:27
lee_Ok waht isit Iam looking for on the sindow05:27
LiMaOlee_: what irc client are you using now?05:27
lee_eh the one with the foot05:28
lee_genome05:28
lee_eh should I update my pc?05:28
LiMaOno lee05:28
LiMaOGNOME is the window manager05:28
LiMaOi'm asking which application are you using to talk to me now05:29
LiMaOirc client = this chat thing, the application you are using now05:29
lee_xchat-GENOME irc05:30
LiMaOnot GENOME man.. write it correctly! it's GNOME05:30
lee_ok05:31
lee_yes that one oh..like a tiny creater oof mythology05:31
LiMaOlee_: there's the file transfer windows... you gotta learn it man.. just look thru the menus05:31
lee_I mannaged to open the IRC file transfer window05:31
lee_ok05:32
LiMaOnow keep looking at it05:32
LiMaOthere you are05:32
LiMaOthe transfer!05:32
LiMaOnow just accept it05:32
lee_yeah I see it all 3 say starting but are dead locked05:32
lee_cant right or left click05:33
lee_can't even double click on them05:33
lee_so Iam running the updates05:33
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lee_wich includes compiz05:33
LiMaOlee_: oh dear lee.. i told you to try 32bit05:33
LiMaOthat would be so much easier05:34
lee_the only thing I see is stop05:34
LiMaO32bit ubuntu.. with gnome and everything beautiful05:34
lee_waht are they doing ending that05:34
LiMaOwith flash, java and everything05:34
lee_back dore?05:34
bqmasseyi was using Emerald for a theme.. a new theme i downloaded uses the normal theme selector..   how do i go back? i still have the emerald theme05:34
lee_ok05:34
lee_32 bit it will be mumbles something no fit to be repeated05:34
LiMaOwhat should i install to get this launcher style? http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1417/1420036294_f0bcbdf311_b.jpg05:35
lee_Kubuntu had that05:35
SeanConneryok weird, ubuntu boots in recover mode but not in the normal mode05:35
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lee_is it that same script you sent me that really simple one?05:36
persiaAnybody on gutsy running Xen, and willing to test something for me?05:36
lee_if so I have it saved05:36
Aondowhen installing stuff with gdebi-gtk from within firefox, would it be possible to open a recent opened window, instead of beeing forced to type password for each .deb file you open within a short amount of time? :)05:36
bqmasseyhow do i disable compiz05:37
persiaAondo: Try adjusting the timestamp_timeout option in /etc/sudoers (although there may be a better way).05:38
CH1Pcompiz is slow?05:38
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lee_LiMaO is it the same scrpt that oyu sent me just befor I logged..taht one tiny one05:38
bqmasseymy themes not getting applied right.. (trying to turn go back to normal themes from emerald)05:39
bqmasseyand i want to turn compiz off and back on again05:39
lee_If So I have it saved hehee05:39
LiMaOyes it is05:39
bqmasseyLiMaO: if you figure out how to install that, let me know05:39
bqmasseyLiMaO: that Mac lookin' thing05:40
lee_ok05:40
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lee_hey LiAmO guess waht05:42
lee_this programs being more freindly05:43
lee_so do I chose 1 or 2? fire fox came preinstalled05:43
CH1PDoes Compiz needs a Graphics Card?05:44
boselectayes05:45
boselectaand not just any graphics card05:45
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x_is anyone missing the gnome splash in Gutsy?05:45
boselectawhen is ubuntu going to make streaming video in firefox simple?05:46
boselectai'm guessing that's not a milestone for gutsy05:46
lee_well waht ever its doing its taking consideably longer to do it05:46
LiMaOlee_: you should choose option 1 for everything05:47
lee_I did. and everything has connected this time..could a sever have been down?05:48
lee_earlier05:48
lee_this time I am gtting everyting as conected05:48
boselectawhat has lee_ been working on?05:48
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lee_got 2 graphical windows this time05:48
lee_asking me to verify05:49
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jetoleevening guys05:49
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x_is anyone missing the gnome splash in Gutsy?05:50
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LiMaOlee_: very nice.05:51
jetoleoh beautiful05:51
lee_Hey I found the error too05:51
jetolethere is none05:51
lee_its in a tar file that has been reloacted I think05:51
jetole@ gnome splash05:51
LiMaOlee_: which file?05:51
x_You mean they got rid of it?05:51
lee_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=AttachFile05:51
x_Or just haven't implemented something?05:52
Powerking89670how do I configure what programs start at boot?05:52
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lee_eh taht the area taht gave me issues05:52
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LiMaOwait a sec05:52
lee_tar: firefoxmplayer.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory05:52
lee_tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now05:52
lee_ok05:52
ISS_StudentAnybody else when booting not getting a boot splash screen05:53
x_I'm not!05:53
lee_not sure05:53
lee_Ihavent rebooted yet05:53
LiMaOlee_: wait a second, and i'll send you a new version05:53
lee_ok05:53
LiMaOlee_: that url is having issues05:53
lee_oh ok05:53
ISS_StudentIt loads fine but it's strange not seeing some sort of boot info after selecting to load05:53
lee_so may be it wasn't the os05:54
lee_maybe I jsut neede to calm down and skim the lines05:54
LiMaOlee_:05:54
x_ISS_Student  I'm getting a boot splash for Ubuntu but not for Gnome.05:54
LiMaOlee_: right click the script on your system.. and choose to DISPLAY it05:54
lee_yeah05:54
ISS_StudentI can live with the no boot splash because my wireless is working05:54
jetolex_: me too, isn't that pretty05:54
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lee_ok jsut a sec05:54
LiMaOPAY ATTENTION to my instructions, so that you don't break anything05:54
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clustyi am trying to pass a kernal option at bootup05:55
jetolegnmoe splash was something I always disabled05:55
clusty/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=7c2d1c71-7379-4f29-8a83-6f0951838246 ro quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=105:55
lee_ok I have it opend05:55
ISS_StudentI was looking for menu.cfg but it's not where it used to be so I can try setting verbose05:55
clustybut the usbcore stuff foes not work05:55
x_So the Gnome splash has been disabled on purpose in Gutsy.  Correct?05:56
ISS_StudentSo where did they put menu.lst05:56
lee_I have it opens for "display"05:56
ISS_StudentI get the gnome splash screen but no boot splash05:56
WorkingOnWisedo you guys mind if I ask some questions not directly related to Gutsy here? Being a "beta" channel, you will more likely have the answers I seek.05:56
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LiMaOlee_: now you have to find the line where it says "wget https://bla bla"05:56
LiMaOtell me when you have found that line05:57
lee_ok05:57
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ISS_StudentI know I'm not going to install anything kde as last time I tried that it messed up my wireless05:57
x_welp.  I'm off to test the RC from install.  See if that clears things up.05:58
LiMaOlee_: it's on line 11505:58
lee_ok05:59
LiMaOtell me when you have found it05:59
lee_I was going for the find feature lol05:59
LiMaOdid you find it already?05:59
lee_eh this thing dont number em05:59
LiMaOlee_: use the find feature.. and search for https06:00
lee_yeppers06:00
LiMaOfound it?06:00
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lee_eh something that looks like this06:02
lee_http://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=firefoxmplayer.tar.bz206:02
LiMaOyes06:03
LiMaOyou gotta fix that url06:03
lee_eh I just compared it to the one file taht was giving issues06:03
LiMaOit's https06:04
lee_and I think tahts the one06:04
LiMaOand it gotta be between quotes06:04
LiMaOit should say06:04
LiMaO"https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=firefoxmplayer.tar.bz2"06:04
LiMaOjust add the quotes, fix the https and save it.. then run the script again06:04
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lee_ok06:05
popecompiz has gone nuts in Ubuntu.  No window borders, desktop malfunctioning.06:05
jetolehey guys, I am looking at todays rc gutsy installer on my laptop atm and I don't see this encrypted root/disk/partition optio anywhere, I mean on debian it was pretty easy to find06:06
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jetolemeh, compiz is over rated06:06
Pseudo2Could anyone help me install gfire for pidgin :)?06:06
lee_it now reads thus..."https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=firefoxmplayer.tar.bz2" with out the quotes06:06
popethat's all well and good, but it's integrated into Gnome/Ubuntu 7.10, so can anyone help me fix it?06:07
LiMaOlee_: it MUST HAVE the quotes06:07
atosecondhow does one support 3 monitors06:07
lee_oh ok ill add em then06:07
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jetoleatosecond: I modify xorg.conf by hand06:07
LiMaOyou didn't change anything else, did you?06:07
LiMaOjust fixed the https and added the quotes, right?06:08
lee_its in pink now06:08
lee_the only one thatis in pink06:08
jetoleatosecond: setup 3 devices in your xorg.conf, 3 monitors and 3 screens and then select their layout in server layout06:08
LiMaOok06:08
LiMaOlee_: now save it.. and run the script again06:08
lee_hmm everything with quotes is in pink and everyhting with out is in black06:09
lee_ok06:09
boselectayeah it's like that06:09
boselectadon't worry about the colours06:10
popei tried to run 'compiz --replace' and it stalled out at 'gtk-window-decorator'....but i was able to get window border back with 'metacity --replace'. But no one knows how to fix compiz? If it makes any difference, there was any auto-update for the 'Gnome/Compiz backend today..06:10
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earlmredhmm06:10
earlmredwhat's the command to load a module?06:10
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bqmasseydammit.. i can't disable this Emerald theme.. help!06:11
atosecondctrl+alt+backspace!06:12
atosecond(don't do it)06:12
LiMaOearlmred: modprobe ?06:12
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earlmredLiMaO, dur, i'm tired =P06:13
LiMaOearlmred: it happens to all of us, don't worry =D06:13
moparisthebestdoes anyone have problems with ATI drivers, and kubuntu gutsy?06:13
atosecondDoes anyone have an ati card and been able to get teh water effects to work?06:13
gunashekaryou mean sound problem?06:13
moparisthebestI upgraded from a perfectly working feisty last night, and when I enable ATI drivers everything is really slow and all the font is extremely small06:14
moparisthebesti can't hardly read what I am typing06:14
lee_ok this time it gave me th option of y or no lol I chose y06:15
lee_but there is one error I did get..will it effect it in any way?06:15
lee_ERROR: Certificate verification error for help.ubuntu.com: unable to get local issuer certificate06:15
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kcs80atosecond: shift+f9 works fine on my fglrx06:16
Gunner_Srwhat is my option for dell fan control without i8k due to no x86_64 support?06:17
kcs80atosecond: compiz-fusion rain effect, that is06:17
lee_hmm it said also that is could not stat Mplayer in..I paraphrased taht06:18
lee_ant it returned to child state06:18
lee_waht ever that means06:18
usserGunner_Sr: write to dell they seem to like linux now06:18
atosecondis there a way to boot ubuntu from within the windows boot loader w/o installing grub06:19
usseratosecond: yes its possible06:19
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atosecondhow?06:19
Gunner_Srusser: ;-) I wouldnt mind fixing it now.06:19
lee_fire fox will not start06:20
lee_eh restarting system brb06:20
LiMaOlee_: how are you trying to start firefox?06:20
lee_on the fox thingy06:20
LiMaOno06:20
lee_icon06:20
LiMaOdo not restart06:20
LiMaOwait06:20
lee_oh ok06:20
lee_hey I bet you can look at my sytem now lol06:21
LiMaOfirst do one thing06:21
LiMaOhit alt+f206:21
usseratosecond: there was a guide on the net somewhere hang on i'll look for it, why do u want to do that though?06:21
LiMaOand run firefox3206:21
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lee_nopers nada06:22
atosecondUbuntu partition is xfs formatted06:22
atosecondGrub doesn't handle that weel06:22
atosecondI dislike lilo06:22
LiMaOlee_: restart your system06:23
atosecondand seeing as I am dual booting anyways06:23
LiMaOand try it again (to run firefox32)06:23
usseratosecond: oh well i'd guess windows boot loader would do even worse06:23
usseratosecond: http://www.matthewjmiller.net/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/06:23
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lee_noprs no go06:25
LiMaOlee_:06:26
lee_yeah06:26
LiMaOlee_: can't you run firefox?06:26
lee_nope06:26
LiMaOlisten, let me try look at your system one more time06:27
LiMaOtype on a terminal the following06:27
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lee_ok06:27
LiMaOsudo apt-get install x11vnc06:27
LiMaOtell me when it's done installing06:27
lee_i istalled the irc the one with the orange x06:27
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lee_ok06:27
atselbyPowerking89670, got it working after a reinstallation of feisty06:27
lee_eh how will i know ?06:29
LiMaOwell, it will go back to the terminal prompt06:29
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LiMaOdid you type that? what happened?06:29
lee_yeah i typed that i was wondering how will i know your trying to contact  me lol06:30
LiMaOoh06:30
LiMaOyou will know06:30
lee_this doesnt exactly have tabs06:30
LiMaOhas it finished installing?06:30
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pvl1has anyone gotten creox to work?06:30
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LiMaOlee_: has it finished installing?06:31
lee_has what/06:31
LiMaOdid you type      sudo apt-get install x11vnc06:31
LiMaOon a terminal????06:31
lee_i didnt even get a file transfer06:31
lee_oh no06:31
LiMaOno man, that's not the way i will contact you06:31
lee_just a sec06:31
LiMaOfor God's sake, pay attention06:31
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LiMaOopen up a terminal, and type that06:31
LiMaOtell me when it's done installing06:31
lee_yeah it istalled06:32
LiMaOok06:32
LiMaOnow i wlil send you a private message, of what you should type next06:33
lee_ok06:33
darwin81My printer (an HP Deskjet 3915) is detected but does not print. It worked fine in Feisty.06:33
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LiMaOlee_: did you see the private message? check out around your window, for any tabs, anything open with my nickname on it06:33
pvl1might need a driver for it06:33
pvl1anyone got creox to work?06:34
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doofy`is there a commercial repo for gutsy?06:34
usserdoofy`: its not up yet06:35
LiMaOlee_: are you there???06:35
usserdoofy`: i guess it will be after release06:35
pvl1doofy its like 6 days06:35
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doofy`are all the rest of the repos up?06:36
usserdoofy`: yes06:36
lee_yes i just sent u an im lol06:36
doofy`thats what i thought. thank you06:36
moparisthebestfor some reason, with gutsy KDE is too slow to even be usable06:36
LiMaOlee_: have you typed what i told you to type?06:36
moparisthebesti don't know if it is a KDE problem, or an Xserver problem06:36
lee_yes06:36
LiMaOlee_: your private messages will not be sent, because you are not registered on this server06:37
moparisthebestbut irssi is plenty fast without gui06:37
lee_oh eh ok06:37
lee_yes to the other thing though06:37
moparisthebestdoes anyone else have this issue? or is it just me?06:37
lee_i coppyd and pasted06:37
LiMaOlee06:37
LiMaOnow stop moving your mouse06:38
lee_yea06:38
LiMaOi will fix your firefox problem, ok?06:38
LiMaOi will move your mouse for you, and fix it06:38
lee_ok ah you ca see me06:38
LiMaOpay attention to what i am doing, so that you learn06:38
LiMaOyes, i can see your screen now06:38
LiMaO=)06:38
LiMaOjust stop moving the mouse and i'll fix it for you, ok?06:38
lee_thats a hell of a sep in right dir lol06:38
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wastedfluidanyone familiar with s2disk.. ?06:38
lee_oops sory06:39
LiMaOlee_: can you read me?06:40
lee_yes06:41
LiMaOtype that same command again on your terminal06:41
lee_had to move the mouse though06:41
lee_ok06:41
LiMaOtell me when done06:41
lee_ok06:41
atosecondhey does 7.1 use grub2 or 106:42
lee_ok now going fer the pw06:43
lee_ok06:43
lee_everything keyed in06:44
moparisthebestok, apparantly it is an issue with the xserver, and not KDE, because I just installed xfce to give it a try and I have the same problems, everything is so slow it is unusable06:45
LiMaOlee_: you are running gutsy!06:46
lee_yeah06:46
lee_oh i need feist fawn?06:46
LiMaOthat would be a lot better06:46
LiMaOfeisty fawn 32bit would be perfect for you06:46
moparisthebestit takes about 60 seconds to load the Kmenu after you click it06:46
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lee_eh I am out of disks06:46
LiMaOas you would have no problems06:46
lee_how aobut if I do this06:47
LiMaOgutsy is still RC106:47
LiMaOit has bugs and problems06:47
atosecondi thought it was rc206:47
lee_hang On Ill hlep out a lil I get to that file directly06:47
LiMaOi can't see your screen anymore06:47
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LiMaOlisten up06:47
lee_grr jsut a sec Ill open and get it back on06:47
LiMaOthe only problem you are having06:47
atosecondisn't gusty tribe 2?06:48
atosecondor 306:48
lee_ah One dvd rom left06:48
LiMaOis that you are not being able to download the mplayer plugin06:48
LiMaOlee_: listen up first06:48
lee_ok06:48
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lee_I had real bad issues with the 32 bit no joke06:48
lee_wait I do have fiesty06:49
riotkittieatosecond: it hit tribe five, then came the beta, then came rc106:49
atosecondoh06:49
LiMaOlee_: what happens if you open up a terminal and type this    wget "http://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=firefoxmplayer.tar.bz2"06:49
chequershi all, how do I change dolphin to use the more conventional 'double click to open a folder', rather than the single click method?06:49
lee_Connecting to help.ubuntu.com|91.189.90.234|:443... connected.06:50
lee_and then06:51
lee_ERROR: Certificate verification error for help.ubuntu.com: unable to get local06:51
LiMaOhmm06:51
lee_and then this06:51
LiMaOreinstall your system... get feisty 32bit06:51
LiMaObelieve me, it'll be better for you06:51
lee_ok06:51
lee_but man fiestys graphics we crashing me hard cop06:52
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lee_my system cabe that bad06:52
FunnyLookinHatAnyone here familiar with .gtkrc-2.0 file editing for fonts?  I can't seem to google to make my fonts bold in gnome06:54
boselectawhat was lee_ trying to do?06:55
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boselectaez lee_06:56
lee_erg06:56
lee_well waht goods a 64 bit system if I have to revert to 3206:56
lee_well Ill just run 2 hdd06:57
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boselectawhat?06:57
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lee_I have the other hdd Ill put it in my system06:57
chequersif I started with kubuntu gutsy beta, do I need to do anything special to update to RC, or will `apt-get update` do it for me?06:58
lee_brb06:58
lee_the grahics are killing this system06:58
lee_at least the other was stable06:58
usserchequers: apt-get update will do06:59
chequersheh, although *upgrade would probably help ;)07:00
x_hello.  I'm trying to manually partition/format my HDD to have everything encrypted but boot and Windows (NTFS) with the new Gutsy install.  How much space should I allocate to /boot and /swap?07:00
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bqmasseycan someone please tell me how to disable Emerald themes07:01
bqmasseyCompiz is starting Emerald.. and i dont want it to07:01
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squidin1just upgraded to RC, and has killed nvidia driver. Anyone else have similar experience?07:03
ISS_StudentWhat is the difference between the DVD iso and the CD ISO07:03
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x_I think the CD ISO would rely on the server depos more than the DVD..  Wouldn't it?07:05
ISS_StudentI was just curious07:05
ISS_Studentso x did you loose your boot splash screen?07:06
bqmasseycan someone please tell me how to disable Emerald themes07:06
bqmasseyCompiz is starting Emerald.. and i dont want it to07:06
ISS_Studenthey squid what if you try the restricted drivers?07:06
x_Yeah.  Just my gnome splash.  I think it might be nvidia related but I'm unsure07:07
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ISS_StudentI've tried everything I can think of and can't get the boot loading splash screen up I just start the system and step away and let it load lol07:09
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squidin1ISS_Student: seems that it didn't install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-i386 as an upgrade to ...-2.6.22-12-i38607:11
squidin1Installing it now; will see...07:11
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ISS_StudentThe thing I am most impressed with as far as rc goes is the fact that I can use the restricted drivers for broadcom  and finally use ubuntu to access my wireless07:13
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x_same here!07:13
x_My Linksys WMP54GS works like a charm07:13
ISS_StudentI haven't tried the WMP54GS I'm using the built in in my laptop07:14
x_they're probably all based on the same thing.  But awesome regardless!  hehe07:14
ISS_StudentI want to switch from Gnome to KDE but last time I tried that I lost the wireless all together07:14
x_I'm waiting for KDE4.  Might give it a try then07:15
x_But from experience Gnome is a little better on the speed side of things07:15
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twinhelixHi all. Is it possible to download/compile the Gutsy kernel source with a very minor patch applied without breaking the ABI (i.e. you don't have to recompile linux-restricted-modules or the nvidia driver etc. too)?07:16
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atosecondyour way beyond me07:17
ISS_StudentOk I switched over to the WPC54GS lol07:18
doofy`is aiglx/compositing still not very stable?07:18
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ISS_StudentI can't get 3d effects to work on my ATI in the laptop07:18
doofy`ISS_Student, i had mine working, but i just reinstalled and they dont anymore07:19
squidin1twinhelix: use make-kpkg to build a .deb of the kernel07:22
squidin1hooray I have X back07:23
twinhelixsquidin1: Yup! However most guides suggest using --append-to-version=foobar which presumably breaks the ABI?07:24
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doofy`how can i figure out some details as to why compositing isnt working so that i can file a bug?07:26
squidin1twinhelix: sorry can't help ya there. You can't compile what you need as a module?07:26
twinhelixsquidin1: Yeah. My laptop has an issue suspending with the 2.6.22 kernel and requires a (very small) patch to the ata_piix driver. I'd have to rebuild the kernel, and I'm wondering if you can rebuild the kernel on its own or whether you have to rebuild all the various restricted drivers too...07:27
gunashekar i was adviced to install the latest drivers for alsa. I have downloaded it , can anyone tell me how to install?07:29
squidin1twinhelix: I'm not really up to speed with restricted drivers. Have you given it a try?07:30
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gunashekar i was adviced to install the latest drivers for alsa. I have downloaded it , can anyone tell me how to install?07:30
twinhelixsquidin1: Not yet. I don't have Gutsy installed, just the LiveCD atm.07:30
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Konamthis bug is still around: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/14082107:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140821 in gdm "[gutsy]  Can not change default GNOME splash background color (dup-of: 132833)" [Low,Invalid] 07:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132833 in gdm "login background color is hardcoded" [Low,Triaged] 07:36
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FunnyLookinHatwell, it is low priority..   :-/07:39
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lachlanhow do i get compiz fusion working on 7.10 Kubuntu?07:43
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SeanConneryhey guys, when I load up gutsy with blob nvidia drivers (8400 GS), the system hangs and the login screen never shows up07:48
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lee_ok07:48
SeanConneryhowever, num lock turns off and on with a 5 s delay between when I press it and when it actually toggles07:48
SeanConneryso its not hanging07:48
SeanConnerybut wtf07:48
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LiMaOlee_: hey! you're back07:49
LiMaOlee_: how's everything now?07:49
lee_I just want to see if you can get into my system..eh I have to down load festy agin07:50
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lee_frankly Ubuntu isnt stable on this system either07:50
cyclonuthowdy folk - was hoping someone might be able to help me with randr configuration07:50
lee_waht about kubuntu in fiesty?07:50
LiMaOi can't access your system properly, because gutsy using some fancy desktop effects that will slow things down07:50
cyclonuttried grandr but it crashes out immediately07:50
LiMaOlee_: forget about kubuntu (kde).. you need ubuntu, with gnome07:51
lee_if that was the case I could have idssabled that07:51
LiMaObrb07:51
lee_if its the desk top issue I could dissable that07:51
lee_that desk top is waht keeps crashing me07:52
lee_would that help if I were to dissable it?07:52
lee_just a sec grabing my other drive07:53
lee_this system was supose to have genome in it07:53
VousDeuxto each their own...I find KDE much more functional than Gnome personally07:54
lee_brb07:54
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moparisthebestis there any way to use a resolution of 1280x800 using the vesa driver?07:56
moparisthebestfglrx is obviously too broken to use...07:56
VousDeuxI would be skeptical of that resolution on a vesa driver07:57
moparisthebestI edited xorg.conf to only have that as an option, but it is still set at 1024x76807:57
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moparisthebestVousDeux, at least X is usable, using any other driver in gutsy so far I cant say the same07:58
VousDeux1024x768 is about all I would expect08:00
pbxLet's say in a fit of minimalism I removed usplash and gdm. Is there an easy way to get that default functionality back if I want it?08:00
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VousDeuxI'm using nvidia driver on mine08:01
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moparisthebestive always had much better luck out of nvidia drivers with linux VousDeux08:01
moparisthebestunfortunately my laptop has an ATI chipset built in :(08:02
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lee_ok here iam08:02
lee_on this 32 bit system08:02
lee_LiMaO I even have the other hdd mounted I think08:03
lee_see if you can get into this one08:03
lee_its mounted08:04
LiMaOlee_: you don't need me to access it anymore08:04
LiMaOit's 32bit now08:04
LiMaOeverything you need should be available easily08:04
LiMaOlet me give you a link08:04
lee_its my hdd for my ps208:04
LiMaOhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty08:04
LiMaOcheck that site08:05
LiMaOit has everything you need now =)08:05
lee_what did you do last time to get it to work?08:05
LiMaObut let me know if you have any doubt08:05
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lee_actually I am not totally fiesty..I am gutsy08:05
helloyomy video playback has gotten worse in the new kubuntu, fast forward doesn't work well, what could be the problem?08:05
lee_I upgraded it online though08:05
lee_not form the rom08:06
lee_Illbrb08:06
FunnyLookinHathelloyo, probably just your CPU being too slow...  fast forwarding video can be pretty processor intensive08:06
alka_trashgutsy is pretty sweet, but the upgrade failed on my desktop08:06
alka_trashI did a fresh install and all was good08:07
lee_well not for me, gutsy reeks havock with my video08:07
FunnyLookinHatThe upgrades are generally a bit iffy   :-/08:07
lee_KDE how ever kept it stable08:07
helloyoFunnyLookinHat: i didn't used to have the issue, shouldn't my video card take care of a lot of it?08:07
moparisthebesthelloyo, what kind of video card do you have?08:08
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alka_trashFunnyLookinHat: I have found it best to just partition my home folder separately and then do a new install08:08
lee_woa wait a minute waht this mean?08:09
lee_* data/displayconfig-gtk.desktop.in: Change "OnlyShowIn=GNOME" to08:09
lee_    "NotShowIn=KDE" to make it appear in XFCE, too.08:09
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lee_theyere changing the updates08:09
helloyomoparisthebest: i have an NVIDIA 7300GT08:09
lee_I was offline the first time we had success ...the comoputer never updated08:10
lee_while in its install mode08:10
moparisthebestwell that shouldn't be a problem, never had nvidia driver problems with linux before08:10
helloyomoparisthebest: yeah, it runs great, including fast forwarding before08:10
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lee_its also a heck of a lot slower surfing the down loads08:11
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Rob125quick question for you lads and lasses: has anybody noticed a significant firefox slowdown since installing gutsy?08:12
helloyoRob125: nope08:12
Rob125Hm.08:12
wubuntudoes anybody know a solution about the ralink rt61 driver?08:12
lee_eh wait Iamm confused08:13
moparisthebestRob125, X in general, including firefox08:13
Rob125mo: okay, good, then -- it's not me.08:13
Rob125I've noticed especially when I have compiz-fusion running.08:13
lee_if this is all gutsy, and all is fiesty, and the updates say that they have genome then wah thte heck are the fdifferences08:13
Rob125The stupid crash manager greys up each time I backspace past the start of a line.08:13
moparisthebestI have to run with the vesa driver, none of the other ones work :P08:14
wubuntusorry meant rt61pci08:14
moparisthebestfglrx and ati both freeze up08:14
Rob125Heh. Funny story -- I'm running an ATI 9600, and compiz fusion worked right off of the CD...08:14
moparisthebestreally?08:14
Rob125... until I installed the restricted driver. Whole thing crashed and burned.08:14
moparisthebestmine is an ati 9600 as well08:14
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moparisthebestso what driver are you running now?08:15
Rob125Whatever the heck was on the CD.08:15
crdlb(ati)08:15
crdlbaka radeon08:15
Rob125fglrx, probs?08:15
moparisthebestwould you mind pasting me a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? :)08:15
Rob125Yes, Radeon.08:15
moparisthebestto a pastebin or something perhaps08:15
Rob125I'll see what I can do, or at least I'll find the graphics section08:15
crdlbmoparisthebest, what happens if you try to use "ati" ?08:16
Rob125mo: using ati, yes.08:16
moparisthebestcrdlb, mostly it crashes out back to the login screen, once it was just extremely slow or locked up like fglrx08:17
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n08l3hey gutsy folks08:17
moparisthebestboth ati and fglrx worked great under the last 2 ubuntu's08:17
Rob125http://paste.ubuntu.com/885/08:17
moparisthebest6.10 and 7.0408:17
Rob125I had sketchy luck at best under 6.10, but 7.04 really works.08:18
n08l3there was some problems with my 3945 card, i mean it kept behaving in weird way like connecting to wireless randomly, then it won't work.08:18
moparisthebestill give that a try Rob125, thanks08:18
Rob125What has really improved is setting resolution and monitor stuffs.08:18
n08l3so i thought to rebuild the driver using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140085&page=108:18
Rob125no probs.08:18
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n08l3but the last line ./load gave me syntax error08:18
n08l3any help, here is that file http://pastebin.com/m67497e3008:18
dave__Thanks. I installed Gutsy RC.   I have a 128mb ram.   Performance was bad on gnome.  Gnome was using about 260mb of memory.  I added xfce it is using about 126mb of memory.  I have a couple of questions.  I have 3 empty banks of memory.  I am not sure what type of memory modules this needs. Is there a command in terminal that can display that info?08:20
usserdave__: i dont think there is08:20
usserdave__: is it a laptop?08:21
usserdave__: oh its not :)08:21
buntunubyou can try ps aux08:21
unstableCan I do encrypted file system with gutsy like I can with debian etch?08:21
usserdave__: take out the one u have installed it supposed to say what kind of memory it is08:21
Rob125unstable: yeah, actually, you can...08:22
Rob125unstable: Two seconds while I find the link. Chister Edwards just had a blog post about that 3 days ago.08:22
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dave__usser, it is a desktop.  HP P3 computer08:22
Rob125Christer*08:22
Rob125http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/09/ubuntu-710-gutsy-supporting-install-time-encryption/08:23
Rob125Check that out, unstable.08:23
usserdave__: just read what it says there on the memory u have installed08:23
dave__also I am using IGP for video.  I have a pci radeon card.  But it wont work out of box.  Was wondering how hard is it to configure ubuntu to use it, or do I upgrade to a cheap nvidia pci/apg card aswell?08:24
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Rob125dave__: You should check under system->preferences->hardware information for your memory type.08:24
dave__Right now I a fixing a old dekstop for my in-laws.  But I think gnome would be easier for them to use that xfce.08:25
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Rob125I dunno. I think xfce is so damn close to gnome, they wouldn't tell the difference.08:26
localgod13anyone run a nvidai geforce mx 40008:26
dave__This IGP 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC)  doesnt seem to cut it08:26
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dave__What section in the hardware information would my memory be listed?08:28
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Rob125Might not even be there.08:28
Rob125That was a general suggestion - if it were anywhere, it'd be there.08:29
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dave__I see a lot of stuff in the Device Manger but not memory info08:29
Rob125If that fails, open your box up :P08:29
dave__box is partly open up now08:29
dave__this is a P3 coopermine cpu.  How much would memory cost for this off the tip of your head?08:29
Rob125Well, you'd have to turn it off to check on the memory, most likely.08:29
usserdave__: turn off comp take out the memory and read the dang label08:29
dave__powering down to look at label08:30
Rob125How much? Damned if I know :P08:30
ussermemorys cheap08:30
Rob125It's older, so it probably uses single-channel stuff.08:30
Rob125Well, if you can find it, it is.08:30
usseryea he P3 huh he probably has pc13308:31
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usserthey dont make it no more08:31
moparisthebesthehe, that makes no sense08:31
Rob125how'd it work, mo?08:31
moparisthebestusing the ati driver, it will let me log all the way into KDE, load about half of the desktop icons, and then crash back out to the login screen08:31
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Rob125Hoom.08:32
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Rob125I haven't tested it with KDE -- I'm a strictly gnome-sort-of-guy.08:32
moparisthebestit's not a KDE thing either, does the same thing with xfce08:33
moparisthebestI installed xfce just to be sure :)08:33
lee_hmm if Linux is well i ned to take this drive out08:33
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seguDCC SEND GPTisreallyfuckinggayha 0 0 008:33
lee_put it back into my ps208:33
d1n0Is there anyone who think I can get DualScreens (NOT with clone, Only Extended desktop) to work with ATI Radeon HD2400 on either Ubuntu, Xubuntu 7.04, 7.10?08:34
Rob125well, there goes my theory that Knights of the Old Republic would work with Wine and Gutsy.08:34
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Rob125d1n0: if there was any version of Ubuntu that'd do it, Gutsy'd be the one.08:34
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moparisthebestmaybe ill just try compiling my own kernel and see what happens08:36
moparisthebestit helped my desktop system08:36
Rob125never done that yet.08:36
lee_wers that sight at that was showing how to convert the 64 bit?08:37
moparisthebestits actually much easier than it sounds08:37
Rob125Good to know. It sounds like attending dentistry school.08:37
moparisthebestif I can find the same tutorial that I used before Ill link you to it08:37
lee_firefox so it can do the graphics?08:37
d1n0Rob125: you mean, Extended desktop doesnt work in Feisty, with whatever videocard you choose to try with? OR, my only hope for the HD2400 card is to install Gutsy?08:38
Rob125... I dunno if I'd really ever have a need to compile it, but it'd be good to know, if you can find it.08:38
Rob125d1n0: I have no knowledge about whether or not it'd work in feisty. I suppose I could boot up my laptop, but it's all the way across the room.... I can predict with 75% accuracy that it WILL work in Gutsy, though.08:39
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moparisthebesthttp://www.howtoforge.com/roll_a_kernel_debian_ubuntu_way Rob12508:39
d1n0Cause I have tried with Ubuntu 7.04, Xubuntu 7.04, 7.10 tribe 5 etc.08:39
moparisthebestexcept I didn't check out the kernel sources from the repos like it says08:39
moparisthebestI downloaded a vanilla kernel from kernel.org08:40
moparisthebestand copied over the .config from the kernel I was running as a starting point08:40
d1n0Rob125: you got a hd2400 videocard on your laptop? dont think the mobilty card can be compared to the desktop hd240008:40
moparisthebestd1n0, I have heard of people getting dual screens working, but I don't know what cards they used :/08:41
Rob125If you've tried with 7.04, then it definitely doesn't work on Feisty :P -- I can't say for sure, d1n0. All I've got is an Intel Integrated and a Radeon 9600. All I can tell you is whether or not the OS itself has the capacity.08:41
d1n0moparisthebest: i've gotten it to work, with nvidia videocard. and i get dual screens to work now too, but ONLY cloned picture on my tv...08:41
moparisthebestnvidia cards do work much better under linux than ATI in my experiance, hopefully you can find a way08:42
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DShepherd4 days to go08:44
usserwow its like christmas08:45
ussercounting days ;)08:45
lee_ehh i found da ooops08:45
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MattRossi4 more days...08:57
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MattRossiRob125: what, aren't you excited?08:59
Rob125It's still too buggy for me to update my production machines.08:59
MattRossiRob125: i've found it fine, but i'm not going to force my opinion onto you anyway09:00
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Rob125Heh.09:00
Rob125I've had problems with X and stuff.09:01
MattRossiyeah09:01
Rob125I guess I'm just not excited for new releases.09:01
Rob125I've been doing this since Dapper.09:01
MattRossiactually, i've had problems with X too, but which have _sort_ of been rectified09:01
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Rob125I'm waiting for compiz-fusion to actually develop some useful functionality.09:03
Rob125what I'm REALLY excited for is KDE4.009:03
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earlmredomg.09:03
earlmredwatching "talk show"09:03
earlmred"and here's a word from our sponsors, who i hear are big on the internet, LEMONPARTY"09:03
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earlmredyou've never heard of lemonparty?09:05
earlmredgoogle it, it's the first link09:05
localgod13earlmred: i hate you so much09:07
localgod13so much09:07
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earlmredlocalgod13, heh, well, here's the clip i saw on tv: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/38560/09:07
earlmredthat will make you feel better09:07
localgod13earlmred: goatse09:08
localgod13not a chance09:08
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earlmredyou're not a member of the internet community if you haven't seen goatse, tubgirl, or lemonparty09:09
Rob125Oh.09:09
Rob125In the same sentence as tubgirl?09:09
Rob125</pass>09:09
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RoboticTaoMy lightscribe is continuously reading after I have upgraded to gusty. If I eject the disk it will immediately close. Any ideas other than disconnecting the drive or reinstalling fiesty?09:11
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cyclonuthallo all, xrandr treates my VGA output as the primary monitor when something is hooked up to it. Does anyone know a way to make xrandr treat my laptop screen (LVDS) as the primary?09:12
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Rob125cyclonut: have you tried in system->administration->screens and graphics?09:16
Rob125(I don't know if that will resolve it, but it'd be the first place I'd look)09:16
cyclonutRob125: that doesn't achieve what I need09:17
cyclonutgoing through xrandr achieves hotswappability09:17
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cyclonuti.e. I plug in my external and boom, I've got extended desktop09:17
Rob125Ahh, okay. Well, I learn something new every minute.09:17
Rob125Can't help you then.09:18
cyclonutonly sad part is that it treats the external as the primary, moving panels and whatnot over to that monitor09:18
cyclonutRob125: Thanks anyways :)09:18
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RoboticTaoCan I install earlier versions of the 2.6 kernel in gusty and also install the nvidia drivers? It doesn't seem to be working for me.09:20
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cyclonutRoboticTao: I've never had luck with earlier kernels in newer ubuntu's09:22
cyclonuthowever, you may be able to choose from previously installed ones at grub09:22
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RoboticTaoI have a strange kernel bug with my dvd drive in gusty but I have a 2.6.15 kernel installed. However the nvidia driver will no longer work with that kernel in gusty.09:23
RoboticTaoI don't get the same error with the 2.6.15 kernel btw09:23
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cyclonutsorry, I dont know enough linux-fu to help you there, RoboticTao09:24
RoboticTaocyclonut: I guess I have to cross my fingers and hope they fix it by the release or I'm going to be trying to fix this one for days I think.09:25
cyclonutI know how you feel.09:26
cyclonutI get random kernel panics still09:26
cyclonutI've decided that I am just going to treat this as an experimental install (I upgraded from feisty), instead of starting fresh with gutsy like I normally would09:26
cyclonutIll wait to reformat until hardy comes ous09:27
RoboticTaocyclonut: I knew it would most likely break something when I installed it. It's a challenge, there isn't anything on this machine that is critical. My server still runs 6.06 :)09:28
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cyclonutgood idea. see, me? Im a dummy09:28
cyclonutthis is my development machine09:28
cyclonutand yes, I just haaaaaad to upgrade09:29
RoboticTaolol, I have the same bug. I just learned the hard way to backup always first09:29
cyclonutmy reasoning is that this is a laptop, and every new release tends to make leaps and bounds when it comes to lappys09:29
AlanBShepard70Should I be nervous that with a fresh install of Gutsy I got a warning "Could not grab mouse" Your system may be infected?09:30
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RoboticTaoI decided that the true benefit to linux is the ability to leave a install untouched for years and it will still be stable and reliable. But the new stuff is always fun.09:31
cyclonutaye09:31
n08l3__could anyone help in getting the sound working09:31
n08l3__I am having intel 82801H sound card09:31
cyclonutI like messing about... for example, gutsy has improved battery life, and gotten extended desktop working properly for me09:31
n08l3__but no sound09:31
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cyclonutn08l3__: check your sound sliders09:32
cyclonutmake sure both are turned up, and the sound is set to use your sound card, not some random one09:32
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n08l3__i cannot control any of that09:32
n08l3__i mean it gave me warning saying that soundcard may not be configured09:32
LiMaOAlanBShepard70: infected linux system? that sure is scary =P09:32
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cyclonutn08l3__: humm. well, is it or is it not09:33
n08l3__or no volume control gstreamer plugin is there09:33
cyclonutsystem > pref > sound09:33
n08l3__alright i m in the sound09:33
n08l3__but there are no slides09:34
n08l3__sliders09:34
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n08l3__and the default mixer is aslo blank09:34
cyclonutwith no options?09:34
n08l3__well I have some options09:34
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cyclonut...such as?09:34
n08l3__say i click on Test, to test the sound, it said Could not open resource for writing.09:35
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n08l3__I have 3 tabs in the sound Devices, Sounds, System Beep09:35
cyclonutn08l3__: what are you options for default mixer?09:35
n08l3__The default mixer is blank, nothing there09:36
cyclonutoh, thought you said you had options09:36
cyclonutin that case, nothing is installed... which is odd09:36
n08l3__yes nothing is installed, i m sorry for that miscommunication09:36
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cyclonuttry sudo apt-get install alsautils09:36
lee_LiMaO......guess what.......IF YOUR ON IT WORKS09:37
LiMaOwhat works?09:37
lee_smiles sheepishly hee hee09:37
silentdoes anyone here know of a way to get a more current kernel than 22-1409:37
lee_that script you sent me09:37
RoboticTaosilent: compile from source09:37
n08l3__cyclonut: It replied E: Couldn't find package alsautils09:37
Orb125silent: Download gutsy CD. Install.09:37
lee_im opperating it off of the 64 bit09:37
RoboticTaosilent: use git to download the kernel source09:38
silentOrb125, this is gutsy... it runs 22-1409:38
Orb125Really?09:38
Orb125Nah.09:38
silentuname -r09:38
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lee_the key was wipng the drive totally09:38
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cyclonutn08l3__: alsa-utils then09:38
cyclonutyou may need to do alsa-base as well09:38
lee_and saying no to the up dates09:38
Orb125Well, I'll be painted blue.09:39
lee_its the frigging up dtaes that ws preventing it09:39
n08l3__cyclonut: Installed09:39
silentRoboticTao, so, as far as compiling the kernel.. all I need to do is ./configure make make install?09:39
lee_so your script works with the acceptin of the m player09:39
lee_seems to have some contaversy09:40
cyclonutn08l3__: try a restart and see if it gets configured09:40
n08l3__no actually its already there, i mean the alsa-utils, it just said its already the newest version09:40
n08l3__so i just want to said, that its already installed09:40
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lee_so the questin now is...should i execute the up dates or not after doing this09:40
RoboticTaosilent: it depends. Check the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile09:41
RoboticTaoin ubuntu you will use fakeroot09:41
lee_if nothing happens all is ok but..if i lose it then it is the updates09:41
lee_so i am up dating..i still have the code ok09:42
lee_or the scrpt even though th mplayer is broke , flas and java work09:42
cyclonutn08l3__: im not sure atm... its really late any the brain isnt doing what it should09:42
cyclonutn08l3__: sorry friend.09:43
n08l3__cyclonut: Thanks for trying, i appreciate your help09:43
lee_basic summery09:43
n08l3__anyways its time to sleep now,i will try it tomorrow,09:43
n08l3__Gud nite folks09:43
lee_do not update the machine09:43
lee_2: download fire fox09:44
cyclonutgnight and g'luck09:44
lee_3: do not open fire fox09:44
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lee_run the script09:45
heartsbloodis gProftpd broken in gutsy, or is it completely fubar in all distros?09:45
lee_dragging it into the konsole09:45
lee_pressenter and answer yes and when the graphical boxes popup...tab to ok then tab to yes09:46
lee_eh tab to ok hit enter anthen tab to yes and enter09:47
lee_then it goes from there09:47
lee_maybe in my frustration i hit no on the second part not sure..but its working in KDE09:48
Orb125Okay, time to extricate myself.09:48
Orb125NN, folks.09:48
lee_iam hitting the hay09:48
lee_so LiMaO it works....just the m player parts broken09:49
lee_not your fault though lol09:49
LiMaOlee_: that's great! i'm happy now =)09:49
lee_after follwing a  half a dozen links I think they are pulling it09:50
LiMaOlee_: are you a man or a woman?09:50
lee_the m player part taht is09:50
lee_Iam a man lol09:50
lee_and noted for my not giving up lol09:51
lee_eh you?09:51
lee_any ways I dead dog tired09:51
lee_there are 93 updates09:52
lee_well merlin has the right idea09:52
lee_Bead09:52
LiMaOi'm a man too =)09:53
lee_I investigated that link heck of a lot of run around though lol...well, lol Iam straight..so Ill shake your hand lol09:53
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LiMaOand you're right, one should never give up =)09:54
LiMaOi'm out to sleep now09:54
LiMaOsee ya tomorrow09:54
LiMaO=)09:54
lee_I gues either omit the m player line or we try to find the link09:54
LiMaOi'll get a new link tomorrow09:54
lee_yeah see if the up dates take it away09:54
lee_Bow I know why programmers get the bucks09:55
lee_well save for us fre sourcers lol09:55
lee_EOL09:55
lee_end of Line09:56
cyclonutthis xrandr thing is gonna drive me nuts09:57
cyclonut(arrgh this wheel is driving me nuts)09:57
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wersis it safe for me to use OpenSync's Feisty Repo on Gutsy?10:01
Hobbseeprobably not.10:03
Hobbseedepends, see if the stuff installs.10:03
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Michae1hello :) all10:06
x_hey folks!  I finally figured out the HDD encryption in the installer.  Pretty sweet!10:07
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Michae1i have to questions about Ubuntu 7.10 :D10:07
Michae1about the video and the surround sound10:07
x_The only problem I have after encrypting from install is that the NTFS drive appears on the desktop after install and I can't unmount it :(10:07
Psi-JackOkay. Anyone know how to mess with alsa so I can specifically order my 3 sound devices specifically, instead of randomly having one sound card default over the other? LOL10:07
Michae1two*10:07
wersHobbsee, but if the stuff installs, would it be fine or would there be potential side-effects?10:08
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Michae1is there any encoder for alsa or amarok that mackes stereo to 5.1 channel???10:08
Michae1makes10:08
JenFragglecan anyone help me to get my wireless working?10:09
Michae1use wifi radar10:10
Michae1:D10:10
Hobbseewers: there are always potential side-effects when building things with 2 different base versions, and interacting them10:10
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Psi-JackAnyone? ;)10:10
Michae1JenFraggle--use wifiRadar10:10
wersokay. thanks hobsee. I guess, I'm just going to look for debs, but would it be fine if I just install what I need then remove the repo immediately?10:10
JenFraggleI use that, doesn't help10:11
JenFraggleI've tried 2 different wireless cards but neither can connect10:11
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Mulderwhat happensto the specifications targetted for gutsy but dont look likethey're going to get done, but dont have a 'deferred' status on launchpad?10:13
hyljethey get pushed to gutsy+110:14
Mulderah10:14
Muldersame with the bugs?10:14
hyljebugs get fixed in gutsy10:15
Michae1gusty is the best :D big fan and user , bye bye win XP forever10:15
Mulderi guess  developers have a lot ontheir plate then if they want to get all the launchpad bugs fixed by thursday10:15
Mulderstill outstanding ones from tribe 610:16
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x_I don't think most users can call it quits for Windows just yet.  A lot of "Joe Public" still want to use MSN Messenger.10:18
x_With all the features that the original client has10:18
Mulderpidgin :)10:18
Mulderyeh10:18
Mulderwhtieboard would be nice10:18
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x_Pidgin is nice.  But the author keeps holding off on webcam implementation.10:20
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x_I guess it's no small task.10:20
AboSamoori have a problem with removing ldap-account-manager i got an error which makes dpkg exit with return value (1), so i can't make any updates . this is a thread for the error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40604/10:20
usserx_: try kopete10:21
jscinozIs the version of Azureus in the official repos ever going to be updated? a whole lot of crashes are fixed in the latest version, yet the one in the repo is still outdated10:21
dave__It appears that I have a Radeon RV6P  PCI card.  I have to remove the card to get a sucessful boot.   What do I need to do to make card work in gutsy?10:21
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Psi-JackHmm10:23
dave__also I tried installing FluxBox.  But when I boot into fluxbox right click for menu does not work.  So I resort back to xfce10:23
Psi-JackHow come asoundconf isn't working in 7.10?  I tried to make it set my default sound card, and.. It's not.10:24
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AboSamoorhow i can make updates without removing a package that makes problems  ?10:25
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JenFraggleGutsy seems to have a lot more problems than Feisty did.  I went to Feisty at the beta stage and had no problems.  Gutsy rc on the other hand is problematic.  I'll probably stick with Feisty and go straight to Hardy10:36
x_Will Hardy be the spit and polish release?10:38
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ysth1until just recently, I had both the gnash and nonfree flash mozilla plugins installed, and firefox would use whatever had been most recently installed; now flashplugin-nonfree doesn't seem to get registered with firefox when the gnash plugin is installed10:41
ysth1is this intentional, I wonder?10:42
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joakim-"nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so"  might help ysth110:44
ysth1where's nspluginwrapper?10:45
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joakim-oh that is for 64 bit :)10:46
joakim-sorry10:46
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joakim-i have no idea10:46
joakim-i had a similar problem and had to manually install the flashplugin10:46
ysth1uninstalling the gnash and installing the flash plugin works; it's just an extra step.10:47
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thomasI just update to gutsy, thougt dist upgrade in adept and now some of my (fn) shortkeys on my laptop don't work anymore10:50
thomasthrough*10:50
ysth1anyway, thanks, joakim10:50
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flaviahi, how do I enable multimedia codecs in kubuntu? In feisty I used to enable the medibuntu repository, but right now there isn't a gutsy repo10:57
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hangthedjflavia, try 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'10:58
hangthedjfor amarok mp3 i think you need libxine1-ffmpeg11:00
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Ramyi cannot remove ldap-account-manager  package because i cannot restart apache 2 , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40604/ . can anyone help me please ?!!!11:01
flaviahangthedj: nice thanks, what about libdecss, is it in the restricted-extras?11:01
thomasanyone an idea how i can get my laptop specific hotkeys to work (the fn keys), they worked perfectly in feisty but some died after upgrade to gutsy11:01
hangthedjflavia, do you mean libdvdcss?11:02
hangthedjthomas, what kind of laptop do you have?11:02
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flaviahangthedj: yes, that should be it :)11:02
hangthedjflavia, right now, i'm using the feisty repo on medibuntu and it works fine.11:03
thomashangthedj: toshiba sattelite A200-1k811:03
hangthedjon a desktop and a laptop11:03
flaviahangthedj: ok I just read on the forum that there is a medibuntu gutsy repository11:04
hangthedjthomas, i have a toshiba sattelite a135-a...something rather.  are all the Fn keys not working?11:04
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hangthedji found that i had to manually edit what apps did what with the specific keys.11:05
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thomashangthedj:  no only some of them, like the brightness hotkeys11:05
hangthedjKmilo is a piece of ...11:06
thomashangthedj: they stopped working11:06
kishanhi i just installed gusty and open office crashes when i start it any help or ideas11:06
thomashangthedj: and i'm using same vga driver11:06
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thomashangthedj: brb11:06
hangthedjthomas, i haven't figured out the brightness hotkeys yet for gutsy... unfortunetly, cause before i upgraded it was all the way down.11:06
hangthedjso my monitor is dim.  i tried changed it in /proc, but it wouldn't work11:07
hangthedjkishan, what part of openoffice?11:07
kishanwriter11:08
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kishanX-Error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)11:08
kishan        Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)11:08
kishan        Resource ID:  0x40002b211:08
kishan        Serial No:    3576 (3576)11:08
kishanThese errors are reported asynchronously,11:08
kishanset environment variable SAL_SYNCHRONIZE to 1 to help debugging11:08
kishanthis is the error11:09
hangthedjI'm new to this channel, but i'm sure somebody has said this before :11:09
webulator70does anyone notice nautilus in gutsy cant preview audio like it did in feisty?11:09
hangthedjif your stuck on gutsy... try searching on https://bugs.launchpad.net11:09
hangthedjif your serious about linux and ubuntu, setup an account, it gets you an account on launchpad.net and ubuntuforums.org11:11
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kishanyes yes i didthat11:11
kishando u want me file a bug report11:11
hangthedjeven adding something that says, my ubuntu computer doesn't work because, helps the linux community grow! ;)11:11
hangthedjkishan, if you can't find one.  post one.11:11
hangthedj:D11:12
kishanokok thanks11:12
hangthedji don't know much about openoffice, i use koffice..11:12
thomashangthedj: any more insights in the fn key problem?11:12
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thomasfood11:13
flaviaone more question: how come firefox is still in english even though I have installed the italian locale?11:13
hangthedjthomas, they have a couple days.. ;)  feisty worked fine as far as hotkeys, gutsy.. the first update, screen brightness worked.. last update.. doesn't.11:13
hangthedjflavia, i'm sure its an option11:14
hangthedjflavia, go to edit -> preferences -> content -> and click advanced in the fonts and colors -> default character encoding11:15
hangthedji think11:15
hitcan anyone tell me why i don't have any sound in firefox with flash anymore?11:16
hangthedjno i guess not.11:16
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hangthedjflavia, i'm installing the italian language, to see.. i don't speak any language but english, and i'm really not very good at that.11:19
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hangthedjflavia, go to edit -> preferences -> advanced -> Languages11:23
dantjeI'm trying to install Gutsy RC on a Samsung v25 laptop, but only see a black screen ("boot: live acpi=off napic nolapic vga=771") Feisty used to work. What am I missing?11:23
flaviahangthedj: got it, thanks a lot11:24
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hangthedjflavia, np, hey now i'm browsing in italian!  nothing makes any sense to me, so i'll change back.11:25
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erhi :)11:32
erany virtual box users here?11:32
hangthedj!hi | er11:32
ubotuer: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu+1!11:32
erhey ubotu11:32
erthe friendly channel bot11:33
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watchmehi all11:33
watchmeI've got a question about gutsy and the keyboard settings....11:34
hangthedjer, in my opinion the best way to get virtualbox working is to go to the virtualbox website and get the gutsy package.11:34
eri just installed kubuntu 7.10 RC and would like to set up "virtualbox". How can i add the sources? thanks :)11:34
hangthedjer, thats what i did.  i think they must have just added it to the repos11:34
eryes, i can see virtualbox-ose11:34
erand server/client packages11:35
erbut vbox complains ....  needs kernel sources11:35
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ephracisHi.11:35
hangthedjer, download the package from virtualbox.org then 'sudo dpkg -i virtualbox-package.deb11:36
ercool! thanks man :)11:36
watchmeI 've got an english Keyboard. But as a germen citizen, I sometimes need the Letters called "Umlaute". Before gutsy I solved this, by adding a few lines to a .xmodmap and load it by default. But with Gutsy this method seems not to work :( does anyone have an idea, how I can get my xmodmap working? thx11:36
ephracisI have a network with two computer, running Gutsy RC. I connected a printer to one of them via USB and it worked fine. But now I want to share it to the other gutsy computer.11:36
hangthedjer, 'apt-get install linux-headers-generic'11:38
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erlibgettextlib-0.16.1.so (how can i install this because i need to use blender) thanks :)11:38
erthanks gangthedj :)11:38
watchmeor better: how can I disable this windows-lookalike-keyboard-settings-tool ?11:39
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hangthedjer, try 'aptitude search libgettext'11:40
hangthedjand install the package you need.11:40
hangthedjlooks like a ruby header11:40
erok, thanks :)11:40
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Muhammad7I can't enable desktop effects :( after I restored Xserver11:44
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erGOOD news :) kubuntu just won my heart :) blender (latest linux build from graphicsall.org is up and running) THanks hangthedj!11:46
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kritzstapfi need to reinstall my ubuntu and im thinking of using gutsy instead of feisty, is it safe for daily use at this point of developement?11:48
Muhammad3I can't enable desktop effects after I had restored Xserver :(11:48
Muhammad3please help me11:48
stefgkritzstapf: no... gutsy has serious issues still11:48
erVirtualBox kernel driver - how do i install this?11:49
watchmeI think I will put gutsy where it belongs.. :(11:49
weltallthe 64bit screen power off on splash logo is still there :S11:49
erstefg: like what?11:49
watchmeer: read My post above11:49
erk11:49
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watchmea non working keboard sucks :)11:50
eroh, the keyboard thing11:50
erdas ist nicht gut ;)11:50
watchmeand no way to get rid of the Tool11:50
Muhammad3I can't enable desktop effects after I had restored Xserver :(11:50
stefger, consoles not working is the most obvious... myriads... it's just not ready for release, but i know that ubuntu won't care, and release it unfinished11:50
watchme;)11:50
eri'm returning to the ubuntu family after a long brake and hope that this time, it will be better11:51
watchmeer: to have only "Wizards" for everything was my major reason for leaving MS Windows... :D11:51
davidwconsoles don't work?11:52
Muhammad3I can't enable desktop effects after I had restored Xserver :(11:52
stefger, so honestly speaking gutsy is a release to skip, like edgy was... or at least wait until December to touch it11:52
erwatchme: i deleted xp and want kubuntu as my major os but i need virtualbox for one app (work releated)11:52
Muhammad3I can't enable desktop effects after I had restored Xserver :(11:52
erstefg: so far, it looks ok (Besides the menu being screwed up with lots of additional text)11:52
Muhammad3help please11:52
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watchmeMuhammad3: reinstall :D11:53
stefger, YMMV. With me not even the stock kernel works (on 3 year old hardware, chosen for linux-compatibility) ..:-(11:53
eri have everything working, even on the laptop11:54
pvhOver the last few days my wifi has started mysteriously disconnecting from the network after an hour or two of use.11:54
stefger; so boot with vga=791 and ctrl-f1 to a console11:54
pvhNothing I can find will reconnect, and the network use light flickers disconcertingly.11:54
pvhOnly rebooting gets me back online.11:54
Muhammad3watchme:  you are kidding right ? ??? :D11:54
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er7.04 could not deal with my wireless (ipw2200) so i used pclinuxos instead (but i need python2.5 for work)11:54
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watchmemaybe ;)11:55
watchmeat least this should be the option, that works perfectly11:56
NullNoneI have  installed Ubuntu 7.10 and have a little problem:)11:56
NullNonewhen i am trying to do  sudo route add -host 195.22.112.12 gw 10.0.10.1 dev eth011:56
NullNoneit failes with message SIOCADDRT: No such process11:56
NullNoneCan someone help me?11:56
ernow 7.10 RC seams fine. The wireless works and i have blender and recordmydesktop. All i need to be a happy camper11:56
er:)11:56
Muhammad3watchme: can you tell me how to reinstall it again ?11:56
watchmejust plug the CD into your drive, boot from it and klick on "Install" ??!??!??!?!?!?!?11:57
ermuhamad, you'd have to boot off of the CD11:57
Muhammad3er: you mean install Ubuntu again :(11:57
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ernow i'm curious ... anyone running 7.10 RC (besides me)?11:58
davidwI'm installing it11:58
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erMuhammad3: it only takes a few minutes11:58
davidwstefg, did you report the bugs?11:58
JenFraggleI'm running it but am thinking of going back to feisty.  no wireless is not a feature i like on a laptop11:58
erJen, i hear you11:58
Muhammad3is there is any other solution ?11:59
eri had the same problem with 7.0411:59
level1hi, guidance-power-manager for kde may be causing some annoyances for me.  I can't prevent it starting on startup, how do I do that?11:59
NullNoneIf i installed Ubuntu 7.10 Beta and all updated to it is this the same as installing 7.10 RC?11:59
stefgdavidw: sure.... but that doesn't mean that they are fixed in time... the 'no tty'-bug is a big thread in LP , and i find it a shame that such major and obvious (and actually easily fixable) bugs make int o something called a release11:59
davidwJenFraggle, no wireless??!11:59
erNullNone: it should be11:59
Muhammad3er: is there is any other solution ?11:59
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erMuhammad3: I am not sure (i'm new to all of this myself)12:00
Muhammad3er: :) like me12:01
eryikes, it's 3 am ... time flies12:01
Muhammad3er: ok thx for help12:01
JenFraggleTried 2 different wireless adaptors, 1 usb and 1 pcmcia but neither work12:01
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NullNoneDoes somebody knows what mean SIOCADDRT: No such process error when running route utility?12:01
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JenFragglewas using the usb fine on feisty12:01
stefgNullNone: your network interface isn't there12:01
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Muhammad3er: I will check Ubuntu effects chat room12:01
ergood idea :)12:02
Muhammad3C ya all12:02
erciao M12:02
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NullNonestefg: my ethernet card is /dev/eth0 and in Debian Ethch that command runs ok. (" sudo route add -host 195.22.112.12 gw 10.0.10.1 dev eth0")12:03
ernite all .... i'll be back one day :)12:03
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stefgNullNone: chances are either your interface is eth1 now, or that network manager busts your conf12:04
darkstar61hi all... i had dwloaded the rc from two different mirrors (italian and french) and im getting a wrong md5sum... someone else is aware of this?12:04
watchmeYEAH!12:04
NullNonestefg: NetworkManager is running. Is there some way to add route using it?12:04
watchmeMY SAP SERVER IS RUNNING UNDER UBUNTU GUSTY!12:05
stefgNullNone: NetworkManager and avahi are the first things i purge on a fresh install, so i don't know12:05
NullNonestefg: Thanks12:06
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darrendwq12:14
NullNonestefg: Mayby it is very funny, but there is a switch in NetworkManager applet (rouming, dhcp, manual). And when i switched to DHCP, route command executed ok ;-)12:14
NullNoneNow my network works ok :)12:14
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emonkey-pIs there anybody who already uses the kde 3.94 packages?12:26
=== emonkey-p has some problems with it ... first I don't finde the x86 package of kde4base, only the sparc and powerpc
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geseremonkey-p: it still needs building12:29
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emonkey-pah ok...  then I'll have a bit more patient12:30
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vbgunzI downloaded the gibbon alternate cd today, the latest snapshot. I know it's not final but wow, it is the most buggy ubuntu I've ever worked with yet :(12:36
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vbgunzhow in the world can the devs handle these bugs with only days left till final?12:37
geservbgunz: what problems to you have?12:37
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vbgunzgdm is at a very low res, the accounts are not. enabling effects once on any account, only make effects available to that account only. turning them off, will never get them back on without a reboot. the wireless network icon shows a connection but nothing is connected :(12:39
vbgunzalso when you first log in, I can see memory cards and sticks, and usb drives on the desktop but when switching accounts, I only see a Windows partition... no usb sticks, cards or anything else12:40
Seeker`vbgunz: Do you mean if you enable the effects on one account, noone else can enable them?12:41
vbgunztrue12:41
vbgunzand if you disable them, the only way to get it back is to reboot12:41
vbgunzI didn't try restarting x though that may work12:41
vbgunzI've done this plenty of times and really know how to set up my wireless card but the wireless network manager refuses to accept my password. when I thought I got it to work and the icon in the panel showed as if I had a connection, pidgin, firefox would not connect to the net. it is as if I have no connection12:43
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omhahey12:44
vbgunzthe reason why I am reallu curious if the devs can solve this is because these are almost the ***only*** applications I've tinkered with so far on gutsy...12:44
omhawhats the default password to eBox?12:45
Seeker`vbgunz: how do you try to disable them?12:45
vbgunzin other words, 99% of the apps I touched so far are broken :/12:45
Seeker`omha: ebox12:45
vbgunzdisable? compiz?12:45
Seeker`yeah12:45
vbgunzsystem > preferences > appearance > visual effects12:46
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omhaSeeker`, thanks12:47
vbgunzI got the net connection going12:47
zengenDoes anyone know how to use a package from the repos to replace a damaged packaged on the alternate install iso from a terminal in the installer?12:47
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zengenOr, if it's even possible?12:47
Seeker`zengen: "damaged" package?12:48
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zengenA package that fails it's hash check.12:48
Seeker`does the CD pass the check you can do when you first boot?12:49
vbgunzis there a way to get the icons on the desktop for memory cards and usb devices to who up on another account. as far as I am concerned both accounts have the exact same privileges. the only thing is, the second account to log in does not have access to them12:49
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zengenNo, 2 packages fail.12:49
Seeker`that tends to imply that the CD is faulty12:50
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zengenI thought that, too, but then I remembered I used the same cd to instal on this computer yesterday.  Just wondered if I could try replacing the 2 packages during the install.12:51
Seeker`i'm not sure. Did the CD get scratched or anything?12:51
zengenNot that I can see.  And the same 2 packages failed before I installed on this one yesterday.  It installed without any problems, though.12:52
Seeker`i'd check the md5 of the iso you used, and reburn it, see if that fixes it12:53
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zengenThat's odd, too.  The iso file itself passes, but if I extract the files to the hard drive those packages fail.  I'm about halfway through downloading another copy.12:54
Seeker`:s12:54
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vbgunzI've been meaning to ask this... is it possible to let an unprivileged account install anything they wish without actually infecting the main system? is this possible in any way?12:57
FallenHitokirii've copied a handler for deskbar to /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/modules-2.20-compatible but it is not recognized (and no .pyc was created). after that I moved it to .gnome2/deskbar-applet/modules2-20-compatible and .pyc was created but i cannot select it in the preferences of deskbar-applet. someone a idea how I can use it?12:58
savvasvbgunz: well.. you could allow them to use sudo in /etc/sudoers and restrict them to use some applications12:58
FallenHitokirivbgunz: yeah if they install it to their local directory, why not?12:58
vbgunzbut they need sudo to install anything from the repos.12:59
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vbgunzI don't wish to grant them sudo but at the same time do not wish to be pestered a dozen times to install something12:59
savvaslol12:59
FallenHitokirivbgunz: oh you want the repos,...12:59
savvasvbgunz: as I said, you can RESTRICT them to some applications01:00
FallenHitokirivbgunz: give every user their own vserver? (they doesn't take much performance)01:00
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vbgunzI am at a lost as to what to google for in this regards, can ya help out with a link to more info ?01:00
Seeker`vbgunz: I have no idea if this is right, but would chroot be the sort of thing you need?01:01
vbgunznot sure01:01
savvaschroot can restrict them to specific folders01:01
hmuschevbgunz: do the users have graphical login? or is it just remote login?01:01
Hobbseevbgunz: chroot, and then bindmount their home dir.  *shrug*01:01
Hobbseebit nasty for X stuff, though01:02
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Hobbseesavvas: have you considered making them use virtualbox or something?01:02
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vbgunzI just have an account to a kid. this kid likes to experiment and I doubt anything in the repos is really harmful. rather than limit the kids experience I'd like to allow him to install anything he wants... just not on the main system01:02
vbgunzlocal login, graphical01:02
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Hobbseeoh, you can screw up with the stuff in the reops01:02
Hobbseeif you decide to purge bits, etc01:02
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savvasHobbsee: it's not me who wants to use it :P01:02
Hobbseewell, yeah :P01:03
Seeker`vbgunz: Use qemu, and tell him he can do anything he likes in there01:03
vbgunzyeah but without sudo powers, what much can they do but be pestered with password boxes or worse, nothing? at least that is what I am thinking01:03
vbgunzSeeker, so true01:03
savvasvbgunz: then they have to compile it themselves, or use a virtual machine as everyone says. Virtualbox takes 20 seconds to install, and it's almost automatic01:04
vbgunzis vbox in the repos now?01:04
savvasdunno, www.virtualbox.org01:04
savvasyou have a deb package for ubuntu there01:04
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Hobbseeconfigure it so that he has auto-sudo rights.  *shrug*01:05
vbgunzI have vbox on kubuntu, this install is for my wife and I plan on helping a friend out soon who has kids... just he never been on linux and the password box though I love it, I don't think I'll be able to convince him, that when 1 of his 5 kids will need him to install stuff :/01:05
savvasparental ubuntu.. pubuntu :)01:06
savvasnice name :P01:07
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level1_I've been having some real annoying problem with alsa in every version of linux I've ever used.  Basically, I alsa does some weird stuff with LFE that makes it difficult to use mute01:08
vbgunzheh01:08
vbgunzanybuntu needs some extremely strong parental/user control wizards, guis, fine tuned controls01:09
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vbgunzhow do I get the gdm login screen to show up at 1280x1024?01:11
soul9Hi everyone01:11
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soul9anyone got their desktop to disappear following latest updates?01:11
soul9I've got a black background instead of mu usual desktop01:12
savvassoul9: alt-f2 and type: killall nautilus01:12
soul9doesn't seem to help any01:13
soul9oh, nautilus wasn't actually running I think01:13
soul9I just started it and my desktop appeared01:13
savvassoul9: then alt-f2 and try type "nautilus"01:13
soul9yep01:14
soul9that worked01:14
savvasnautilus is the app for the desktop, hopefully that should fix it01:14
savvasthe gnome panels are ok?01:14
soul9so should I add that to my session or should this be fixed by an update?01:14
soul9no, not all of them01:14
soul9oh, yes01:14
savvassoul9: try reboot01:15
soul9yes, the panel applets seem to work fine01:15
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tech0007hi everyone01:18
flaviahi, is amule crashing when downloading the server list a known problem?01:18
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vbgunzanybody know how to fix the gdm resolution?01:23
vbgunzit is currently lower than I think it should be01:23
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Seeker`vbgunz: I think it needs to be set in oyur xorg.conf01:23
vbgunzI think so too, something about virtual maybe, am googling to no avail01:23
Seeker`by gdm, do you mean the login screen?01:24
vbgunzgot it I think01:24
savvasvbgunz: try limit the modes to only 1280x102401:24
vbgunzyeah01:24
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Seeker`vbgunz: What does your "Screen" section say?01:24
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vbgunznot sure01:25
vbgunzI'll check01:25
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vbgunzjust had modes, 1280, 1024, 800, etc01:27
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Psi-JackAnyone here know how it's possible, for my USB headset, to have IT's volume buttons control the headset volume instead of the default sound master volume?01:27
Seeker`vbgunz: Can you pastebin what it says?01:28
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vbgunzSeeker`: yeah, one sec, this is on another machine01:31
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JohnFluxHey all01:31
JohnFluxIs there a way for a package to modify the bashrc scripts?01:32
jussi01JohnFlux: IIRC they are in ~/.bashrc01:32
JohnFluxIn particular:  I wrote a bash function to do autocomplete for qdbus01:33
jussi01but I m not certain of that01:33
JohnFluxSo it would be nice to 'install' this function when you install qdbus01:33
JohnFluxbut I'm not sure if there's a nice place for a package to just drop in a file01:33
HetaUmais there any known issue with vncviewer? I run it and can't type in the host address01:34
fyrestrtrHetaUma: are you running it with screen effects?01:35
fyrestrtrJohnFlux: probably editing /etc/bash.bashrc would do the trick.01:35
HetaUmafyrestrtr, yeap01:36
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JohnFluxfyrestrtr: hum, seems dodgy for an installer to do that though01:36
fyrestrtrHetaUma: try disabling effects.01:36
fyrestrtrJohnFlux: I agree.01:36
vbgunzhttp://www.pastey.net/7529001:36
fyrestrtrJohnFlux: you could add your aliases/autocomplete stuff to a file, place it in /etc/yourpackagename/foo and print instructions for users to source the file if they want autocompletion.01:37
Seeker`vbgunz: Create a backup, and remove all resolutinos apart from what you want?01:37
HetaUmafyrestrtr, yeap it worked. ty. I imagine tho they are planning to fix it right ?01:37
vbgunzi can try01:37
fyrestrtrwow this is some sour coffee01:38
savvasJohnFlux: what fyrestrtr said, you also have /etc/bash_completion and /etc/bash_completion.d/ :)01:38
JohnFluxjust looking at that now01:38
bintuthhmmm.. xen is not yet updated to 3.1.1?  :(01:38
JohnFluxhmm it does seem possible to just drop the file in /etc/bash_completion.d/01:39
fyrestrtrHetaUma: I'm not sure; as I have faced this issue with other programs as well.01:39
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fyrestrtrHetaUma: I just disable effects when I'm in 'work mode'.01:40
HetaUmafyrestrtr, I guess it's due to java01:40
fyrestrtrHetaUma: in other words, this is not an issue that is local to vncviewer01:40
fyrestrtryes, it is. There is a work around for it though.01:40
vbgunznope, removing all resolutions other than 1280x1024 did not solve the gdm lower resolution issue :(01:40
JohnFluxsavvas: although it's all disabled by default :(01:40
JohnFluxsavvas: I wonder why that is01:40
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vbgunzits cool, I will have to look into this later, hopefully I'll get it fixed soon enough :)01:42
ArafangionHey, any Upstart gurus here/01:42
penguincentralno01:42
ArafangionI just want to see why Upstart (specifically logd) doesn't work.01:42
Arafangionpenguincentral: Damn enter key decided to depress too early. :(01:43
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fyrestrtrHetaUma: if you really want it to work with desktop effects, there are work arounds.01:43
ArafangionI've tried to strace it, and ti appears that the connect to the anonymous namespace /com/ubuntu/logd (Pretty sure that's what it was), resulted in an EADDRINUSE.01:43
ArafangionAnd since I called logd manually from the console, after starting the kernel with init=/bin/bash, I'm wondering how the heck that can happen?01:44
=== Arafangion thanks penguincentral for the cookie, quietly passing it to someone else, who knows how many people have touched channel-cookies. ;)
penguincentral:)01:45
penguincentralit's chocolate ;)01:45
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Arafangionpenguincentral: Ahh, so it's brown and therefore can't tell if it's actually dirty?01:46
penguincentralArafangion: yep01:46
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Arafangionpenguincentral: And I'll bet it's poisoned.01:47
Arafangionpenguincentral: I'm allergic to milk, you know!01:47
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penguincentralArafangion: sorry01:48
Arafangionpenguincentral: Just so you know, I'll be paying particular attention to you if you ever come near food again!01:48
penguincentrallol01:48
ArafangionAnyone ELSE familiar with Upstart?01:48
penguincentralgoogle is your friend...01:48
Arafangion(You know, that program that allows Ubuntu to boot?)01:48
Arafangionpenguincentral: Try it, see what docs you can find. ;)01:48
penguincentralnow i know what Upstart is01:49
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penguincentralhttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/01:49
Hobbseesource code probably says a fair bit.  *shrug*01:50
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Hobbseekeybuk may be around to debug that with you sometime during the week.  or the week after, more likely.01:51
mc44Hobbsee: no one documents source code ;P01:51
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webulator70i think me and a few others found a fix for a bug in nautilus on gutsy and id like to see if someone here can try it out too, any takers?01:51
fyrestrtrwebulator70: what is the bug?01:52
ArafangionHobbsee: Yes, the source code has a fancy comment that basically says "We use the anonymous namespace here".01:52
Pete__Does anyone else find Konqueror in gusty slow to resolve sites? (Firefox works fine, entering ip addresses in Konqueror works fine)01:52
Hobbseeoh yay01:52
Arafangionpenguincentral: Click on the documentation link, and let me know what you find.01:53
webulator70fyrestrtr: one that feisty sort of had too but its worse here, mouse over sound previewing01:53
penguincentralArafangion: what documentation link?01:54
webulator70i have it going now and i know how i got it going but i cant backtrack to reproduce the problem and formatting is to tedious if it can be avoided01:54
fyrestrtrPete__: are your dns servers okay?01:54
Arafangionpenguincentral: Exactly. ;)01:54
penguincentralArafangion: i see01:54
fyrestrtrPete__: ff might be looking up cached results.01:54
Pete__fyrestrtr: Yes, feisty still works fine, dig works fine01:54
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Arafangionpenguincentral: Actually, it's possible to find documentation on Upstart, but unfortunately it's almost completely just titles and section headers - with no content!01:54
penguincentralheh01:54
webulator70any takers with testing this fix out?01:56
Arafangionwebulator70: Can you reproduce the issues with a particular live cd?01:56
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fyrestrtrwebulator70: how to reproduce the bug?01:56
webulator70Arafangion:  havent tried yet as id really rather not restart for the time being01:56
webulator70ive got some things going on01:57
webulator70fyrestrtr: if your on gutsy and you mouse over an audio file does it show a bubble?01:57
webulator70(this is about more then just the bubble so bear with me please)01:58
fyrestrtrwebulator70: no01:58
xjkxubuntu's old versions (until 7.04) do not work for me, they claim i have I/O errors and don't boot the livecd, i suppose that it does not have the proper module to " IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  5513 [IDE] ". On other systems i had this I/O errors too, i solved it after i recompiled the kernel, thats why i am sure about the reason, question is, how does gutsy support me?01:58
Pete__Ugh, what is going on with konqueror, this is annoying01:59
webulator70 fyrestrtr: good, then im sure its a univeral gutsy bug, everyones in that boat... ok now to solve it01:59
fyrestrtrwebulator70: to be honest, I never had a bubble in fiesty.01:59
webulator70fyrestrtr: can you please try to install these to packages:01:59
xjkxthe other systems i meant other distributions, and even though they gave that I/O errors, at least i could install the system, so i could compile the kernel. But ubuntu does not let me install it, it sumply does not boot02:00
webulator70fyrestrtr: thats fine its messed in feisty too02:00
fyrestrtrokay02:00
fyrestrtrxjkx: have you tried the alternate cd?02:00
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Pete__Doesn't seem to be my nameserver02:00
webulator70fyrestrtr: pulseaudio-esound-compat and the pulseaudio it needs02:00
webulator70can you please install these?02:00
fyrestrtrokay02:01
xjkxfyrestrtr, no02:01
fyrestrtrxjkx: try that.02:01
webulator70fyrestrtr: thanks now after they are done, can you close any nautilus windows , open one wiht a sound file and mouse over it?02:01
xjkxfyrestrtr, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download where02:02
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xjkxalso, where isgutsy?02:02
fyrestrtr!alternate | xjkx02:02
ubotuxjkx: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal02:02
xjkxfyrestrtr, i know what it is, not where it is02:03
fyrestrtrwebulator70: I get the bubble now.02:03
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fyrestrtrxjkx: at the download page, there is an option to download the alternate cd.02:03
webulator70fyrestrtr:  still no sound correct?02:04
fyrestrtrxjkx: its a check box.02:04
RivaeAeryais it safe to update to kubuntu gutsy now?02:04
xjkxuhmm02:04
fyrestrtrwebulator70: no sound; but I have a bubble.02:04
RivaeAeryais it safe to update to kubuntu gutsy now?02:05
daekdroomRivaeAerya: Gutsy is stable enough.02:05
webulator70fyrestrtr: ok now can you go into edit/preferences in nautilus, then go to the preview tab and set sound files to always?02:05
daekdroomI don't know about KDE but Ubuntu itself is stable.02:05
fyrestrtrwebulator70: okay, done.02:06
RivaeAeryadaekdroom: hmm and what bugs are there?02:06
webulator70oh btw does esound-common comes with feisty?02:06
webulator70its crucial that i know if it does or not02:06
fyrestrtrby comes do you mean installed by default?02:06
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webulator70yes02:06
Pete__Right, I'm going to reinstall again, see if it makes any difference.02:07
fyrestrtrstill no sound.02:07
webulator70sorry, gutsy i mean02:07
webulator70fyrestrtr: ok, thats fine, now can you install mpg321 from apt?02:07
daekdroomRivaeAerya: I have no idea. Almost any package has bugs, no? (even in stable versions..)02:07
RivaeAeryadaekdroom: hmm and what bugs are there?02:07
RivaeAeryaoops02:07
murlidharmy start up takes a good 5minutes with nothing on the screen till the login windows .02:07
RivaeAeryadaekdroom: ok02:07
xjkxfyrestrtr, is there a documment help for alternate cd install ?02:07
fyrestrtrxjkx: yes, its in the wiki.02:08
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fyrestrtrmurlidhar: did you upgrade or do a clean install?02:08
xjkx!wiki alternate install02:08
murlidharfyrestrtr: upgrade02:08
fyrestrtrwebulator70: okay done.02:08
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fyrestrtrwebulator70: and now it works :)02:08
jenofonte(topic02:08
webulator70fyrestrtr:  install sox for .wav and vorbis-tools for .ogg files to preview too :)02:09
webulator70fyrestrtr:  only one problem now? wich files made it work? its hard to tell since there are so many extra libs and whatnot that installed02:09
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fyrestrtrwebulator70: you should add this to the wiki, I normally disable previews in nautilus.02:09
RivaeAeryaWhat advantages does Gutsy have over Feisty?02:09
fyrestrtrwebulator70: after install mpg321 it works.02:10
fyrestrtrRivaeAerya: updated core programs, integrated desktop effects, better printing.02:10
RivaeAeryafyrestrtr: and Kubuntu Gutsy?02:10
webulator70fyrestrtr: thats good but where there any dependancies with those things i asked you to install?02:10
fyrestrtrwebulator70: yes, tons.02:10
fyrestrtrwebulator70: I can pastebin it if you want.02:11
webulator70fyrestrtr: and the trick now is to find out which ones are the ones that matter02:11
fyrestrtras i have it in the buffer.02:11
murlidharmy start up takes a good 5minutes with nothing on the screen till the login windows .02:11
fyrestrtrRivaeAerya: I am not sure, as I don't use kubuntu.02:11
webulator70fyrestrtr: sure if you want, the prob is, if we uninstall those things now it will still show a bubble making it hard to reproduce02:11
fyrestrtrmurlidhar: did you do an upgrade or a clean install.02:11
RivaeAeryafyrestrtr: where can i find out?02:11
murlidharfyrestrtr: upgrade02:11
fyrestrtrmurlidhar: what video card do you have?02:11
fyrestrtrwebulator70: well, I can tell you easily.02:12
fyrestrtrwebulator70: after the first install, I got the bubble. After the second install, I got sound.02:12
murlidharfyrestrtr: the in built of intel 84502:12
daekdroomRivaeAerya: Better printing support, less bugs (atleast in official release) and such stuff.02:12
webulator70fyrestrtr: but what files in that whole list of dependencies where responsible for making it go?02:12
fyrestrtrwebulator70: and I bet this bad coffee that it is "libgstreamer-plugins-pulse0.10-0" that is required.02:13
RivaeAeryadaekdroom: and in Kubuntu?02:13
daekdroomRivaeAerya: But that's about kubuntu02:13
webulator70fyrestrtr: ah, thats a start02:13
webulator70fyrestrtr: required for the bubble to show?02:13
daekdroomRivaeAerya: Everything that wasn't limited by the change of GNOME to KDE is still applied to Kubuntu =P02:13
fyrestrtras iirc nautilus uses gstreamer; because video files that have no gstreamer codec install will not show previews.02:13
RivaeAeryadaekdroom: hmm.. better printing support, okay, that's just what i need.. and what else? better videocard support? better hardware support?02:13
fyrestrtrwebulator70: yes.02:14
RivaeAeryabetter browser? better firefox?02:14
daekdroomRivaeAerya: New Kernel = better hardware support.02:14
RivaeAeryabetter konqueror?02:14
fyrestrtrRivaeAerya: why don't you go and read the website.02:14
fyrestrtrRivaeAerya: all this is mentioned there.02:14
RivaeAeryafyrestrtr: link me, please :)02:14
webulator70fyrestrtr: the odd thing is now that ive uninstalled tha i still see the bubble02:14
murlidharfyrestrtr: last time in feisty somebody told me to modify in the grub menu to by pressing e and removing some word which i don't remember right now02:14
fyrestrtr!gutsy02:14
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information02:14
webulator70fyrestrtr: ive uninstalled everything i had before and i see the bubble still02:14
fyrestrtrRivaeAerya: there you are02:14
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murlidharfyrestrtr: this time i have gutsy02:15
webulator70fyrestrtr: but on a fresh install, there is no bubble for everyone i talk to02:15
RivaeAeryafyrestrtr: and where can i find the info?02:15
RivaeAeryathere's only a download link and the release schedule02:15
RivaeAeryaand goals02:15
fyrestrtrRivaeAerya: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon02:15
denndaHi there. Any idea why suspend2ram still doesn't always work? (screen is not turned on again) - Any ideas how to fix it?02:15
fyrestrtrwebulator70: uninstall these> libsamplerate0 pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat02:15
fyrestrtrwebulator70: with --purge02:15
webulator70fyrestrtr: i already did before talking to you02:16
fyrestrtrhrmm.02:16
daekdroomHm. Rythmbox is bugged here, is there another audio player that i can use?02:16
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RivaeAeryafyrestrtr: there's no info t here02:16
webulator70fyrestrtr: that definatly fixes it but why would it not unfix on uninstall02:16
daekdroomRivaeAerya: That's valid to Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu (except GNOME related stuff)02:17
RivaeAeryadaekdroom: what'svalid to that?02:17
fyrestrtrwebulator70: if I had to guess; I think that installing it probably creates a symlink somewhere to the necessary libs for nautilus, and uninstalling doesn't delete the symlink.02:17
webulator70fyrestrtr: its almost as if it overwrites a problem file or gconf key and leaves it in a working state after uninstall02:17
ArafangionBleh, why don't people in here understand Ubuntu's *own* init program?02:17
fyrestrtrwebulator70: but just stabbing in the dark.02:17
daekdroomRivaeAerya: What is said in that webpage is valid to Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu Gusty.02:17
RivaeAeryadaekdroom: there's only this:02:18
fyrestrtrwebulator70: an easy way to figure it out is to do a search for all changed files before and after install.02:18
mc44RivaeAerya: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc02:18
xjkxis it safe to use the release candidate?02:18
RivaeAeryaThe name "Gutsy Gibbon" was announced [WWW]  in the mailing lists by MarkShuttleworth.02:18
RivaeAerya Gutsy goals are recorded in [WWW]  Launchpad.02:18
RivaeAerya download link : [WWW]  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/02:18
webulator70fyrestrtr: your stabbing in the same direction i am, and this makes me want to somehow get a hold of a dev that codes nautilus on ubuntu02:18
RivaeAeryamc44: thanks :)02:18
fyrestrtrwebulator70: then compare it to the files that are changed after uninstalling. The culprit file will not have its modtime changed.02:18
daekdroomxjkx: It's not too buggy.02:18
webulator70fyrestrtr: how do i do this?02:18
daekdroomxjkx: But you might not want to install it in a workstation computer02:18
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xjkxall i fear is to lose data, if its not going to happen i should be ok02:19
fyrestrtrwebulator70: I seem to recall a utility that scans for filesystem changes.02:19
xjkxis it safe in terms of what i said?02:19
fyrestrtrwebulator70: but a hack would be to diff the output of find before and after the changes (using a modtime filter on find)02:19
daekdroomxjkx: If you do know how to install it without losing data i think there's no problem.02:19
xjkx:)02:19
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webulator70fyrestrtr: hmmm02:20
xjkxis this the first rc?02:20
daekdroomyes.02:20
webulator70fyrestrtr: is there any dev i could  contact about this seeing is how this is boredering on what i can and cant do?02:20
webulator70*as how02:20
penguincentralif I have done _all_ updates, then I should have rc running02:21
penguincentralright?02:21
fyrestrtrwebulator70: I would ask in the gnome channel first, they may be able to tell you the file that is responsible for the bubble.02:21
xjkxdaekdroom, is it comming out this month or there are comming more rcs?02:21
webulator70fyrestrtr: i understand what your telling me to do full well but i dont know how to do it02:21
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webulator70fyrestrtr: ok, sounds good, and thats just #gnome on this server?02:21
daekdroomxjkx: as i know the official release is 4 days ahead02:21
fyrestrtrwebulator70: oh, and the utility is fschange ( http://stefan.buettcher.org/cs/fschange/index.html )02:22
fyrestrtrwebulator70: I believe so.02:22
webulator70fyrestrtr: fschange, thanks, ill try to do what i can02:22
xjkxdaekdroom, 4 days to come out ? is it what you mean with "ahead?" ah ! then i won't install the RC today, that makes no sense02:22
fyrestrtrxjkx: I would suggest you do it today; as on the day of release the servers will be overloaded. So, if you install RC now, you will just download any updates on release day, which will reduce the amount of stuff you need to download to bring you up to date.02:23
daekdroomxjkx: yes that's what i meant02:23
squidyhi.. is anyone here using dolphin in kubuntu? i've copied my personalized menus from konqueror to dolphin servicemenus folder, but nothing appears..02:23
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IdleOnexjkx: best to install today and then just do the few updates on the day of release. like fyrestrtr said servers will get hammered on the 1802:24
xjkxwhat would i need on rc to get it to be release? apt-get dist-upgrade only?02:24
daekdroomI have to download updates almost 2 times per day here. T_T02:24
IdleOnexjkx: yes02:24
xjkx:D ok :)02:25
webulator70hmm maybe i can save some times and ask another person to try it with fyrestrtr:02:25
webulator70erm.. with fschage i mean02:25
murlidharmy booting takes place a good 5 minutes even my windows takes 1.50 min to boot . what is the problem02:25
penguincentralIdleOne, xjkx, and anyone else who cares to read: When my friend was downloading the updates for edgy to feisty on the first day, i chatted to him for a bit.  he was saying that the servers were _really_ slow02:25
webulator70does anyone here have a moment to help squash a gutsy bug?02:25
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daekdroompenguincentral: but it's way better to download some packages in a slow speed than a big ISO @ slow speed =P02:26
webulator70i need someone to reproduce it while they are  scanning the fs for changes02:26
penguincentralyep02:26
webulator70i cant do it on mine unless i reformat02:26
IdleOnepenguincentral: on the day of release for feisty I had aleady been running 7.04 for a month and was not getting any headaches about " Why cant I download 7.04 "02:27
murlidharmy booting takes place a good 5 minutes even my windows takes 1.50 min to boot . what is the problem?02:28
penguincentralIdleOne: the day of the feisty release i was on dial-up and effectively was _unable_ to connect to the modem because i have a winmodem.  now that i have broadband, it's all better now and i am immersed in the goodness of linux02:28
IdleOnepenguincentral: :)02:28
xjkxpenguincentral, oh, so apt will be slow too :>02:29
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murlidharcan anybody solve my problem?02:29
XsteelWolfbtw is ubuntu 7.10 official?02:29
XsteelWolfor do i have to wait 4 days later02:30
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Pete__Not yet, still RC02:30
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XsteelWolfonly after 4 days later?02:30
larson9999we just bought a game cube(we're on the trailing edge) with metroid prime.  my 6 year just stared at the intro with bug eyes for about 5 minutes.  then he said, "get going, you can do it."02:30
RivaeAeryaHow do i update to Kubuntu Gutsy? (in KDE)02:31
mc44XsteelWolf: when it's released02:31
XsteelWolfafter it's released,then it will be consider official?02:31
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XsteelWolfbut it;s only 4 days to release, i don't think any bugs would be finalised during this 4 days yea?02:31
mc44there may still be updates02:32
fyrestrtrRivaeAerya: sudo update-manager -d02:32
RivaeAeryafyrestrtr: in kubuntu?02:32
XsteelWolf4965 agn intel wireless card02:32
RivaeAeryaadept right?02:32
fyrestrtryes02:32
XsteelWolfis it working on ubuntu 7.10 release?02:32
XsteelWolfi download rc 1 month ago02:32
XsteelWolfkde manager doesn't work for me02:32
RivaeAeryaor is adept too unstable?02:32
IdleOnepenguincentral: shipit has just accepted my request for cd's :))02:32
larson9999huh, the graphics card on this dell inspiron still isn't working :(02:32
penguincentralcool02:32
RivaeAerya(adept crashes here often)02:33
murlidharmy booting takes place a good 5 minutes even my windows takes 1.50 min to boot . what is the problem?02:33
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denndaHi there. Any idea why suspend2ram still doesn't always work? (screen is not turned on again) - Any ideas how to fix it?02:33
IdleOnepenguincentral: go make request now02:33
RivaeAeryafyrestrtr: ping02:33
EnderWgot a problems with ubuntu 7.10RC messing up boot entries/MBR when installing...how do I file a bug on launchpad? or help otherwise? seems to be dozens of projects called ubuntu on launchpad02:34
daekdroomdamn gutsy, my printer isn't working02:35
penguincentralIdleOne: they haven't accepted my request yet :(02:35
EnderWone thing is that it wouldn't boot, but it wrecked vistas bootmanager aswell02:35
mc44EnderW: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/+login02:35
EnderWthanks02:35
IdleOnepenguincentral: :( where do you live?02:36
EnderW(or gave it a wrong entry)02:36
penguincentralIdleOne: in the "land down under"02:36
fyrestrtrRivaeAerya: I'm sorry, I do not use KDE.02:36
fyrestrtrRivaeAerya: perhaps someone else that uses it will be able to help you.02:36
IdleOnepenguincentral: dont know what to tell you02:37
RivaeAeryaWho here uses KDE?02:37
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fyrestrtrRivaeAerya: try #kubuntu02:37
penguincentralIdleOne: Australia is a great place... full of water restrictions02:37
XsteelWolfRivae, I do02:37
RivaeAeryafyrestrtr: ok :)02:37
dmacei've attached an external lcd monitor to my laptop to test dual head in 7.10RC. my laptops' native res is 1680x1050, and the external LCD is 1280x1024. the only mod i've made to my xorg.conf file is to add a Virtual section to set the desktop size to 3360x1050. when i connected the monitor and booted up, my laptop's resolution seems correct, but gnome/metacity is constrained to a small portion of the screen (like, the panel extends on02:37
dmacely to about 3/4 across the screen, and maximizing stuff fills up only that area). displayconfig-gtk and the screen resolution applet are saying my max res are something strange like 1280x950 (cant remember or sure and can't get to the applet now). the external LCD is not getting a signal. i tried xrandr to just turn off the external lcd, and now the panel etc aren't even visible on the laptop LCD, and I can't seem to get things back t02:37
dmaceo normal. wth?02:37
RivaeAeryaXsteelWolf: oh :D02:37
filthpigshouldn't really the kubuntu team have a #kubuntu+1 channel?02:37
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dmacexrandr output: http://pastebin.com/m3b1866802:37
RivaeAeryaXsteelWolf: how's Gutsy with KDE? oh, and, how do you upgrade to Kubuntu Gutsy?02:37
XsteelWolfIt's great02:37
penguincentral!pastebin | dmace02:38
ubotudmace: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:38
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XsteelWolfbut im having problems with my intel 4965agn wireless card02:38
XsteelWolfseems like its kde network manager problem02:38
fyrestrtrdmace: what video card?02:38
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dmacefyrestrtr: intel 945 GM using the intel driver02:38
XsteelWolfwhen it's official release02:38
fyrestrtrXsteelWolf: does it work when you disable the network manager?02:38
dmacefyrestrtr: i got dual head working w/ xrandr at work using an external LCD on this thing whose native resolution matches02:38
XsteelWolfyou can do a apt-get install upgrade02:38
webulator70fyrestrtr: you see my pm?02:39
XsteelWolfnah it doesn't, i didn't try ndiwswrapper though02:39
IdleOnepenguincentral: you guys in a drought right now? we dont have water restrictions but perhaps we should. people water the lawn here still and it is october 14th02:39
dmacefyrestrtr: with 7.04 and upgraded X though. this is the first time i've tried it with 7.10 and an LCD whose rez is different than the laptop's02:39
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fyrestrtrdmace: I have always had issues with running dual head with different resolutions (using nvidia, ati and intel chipsets) in the end I just used the common denominator resolution. fwiw, in Vista, it automatically adjusts my laptop's resolution to match that of the external screen when doing dual head.02:40
XsteelWolfkde sure do look nicer than gnome02:40
fyrestrtrwebulator70: are you identified?02:40
ipxSoon this channel will be all dead - again. : ) *mohahaha*02:40
dmacefyrestrtr: XP never has any trouble :-/02:40
webulator70fyrestrtr: identified?02:40
fyrestrtrwebulator70: with nickserv02:40
dmacefyrestrtr: any idea how i can at least get this stuff back to normal without rebooting?02:40
fyrestrtrdmace: logout, restart X, login again.02:41
IdleOneipx: for a day then ubuntu 8.04 starts :)02:41
webulator70 fyrestrtr: no02:41
ipxIdleOne: ;)02:41
dmacefyrestrtr: or without doing that? :) i'd like to know what the problem is rather than relying on a magical fix02:41
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fyrestrtrdmace: I'm not sure what is the cause of the issue; I'm sure its drivers. To adjust your resolution while in X, you can use ctrl+alt+numpad+ and numpad-02:42
dmacefyrestrtr: that's the weird thing, the resolution is correct02:42
dmacefyrestrtr: it's like the WM or whatever manages this thinks the other screen is still available02:42
wabzhi, when I enable desktop effects, I don't have any window decorations, what's up with that?02:42
dmacefyrestrtr: and is putting my panels over there02:42
fyrestrtrdmace: hrmm.02:42
IdleOnewabz: #ubuntu-effects for effects help02:43
fyrestrtrdmace: not sure what is going on there.02:43
wabzgood god02:43
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dmacefyrestrtr: another interesting note is that the wallpaper is stretched as if the resolution were doubled along the x axis02:43
martynaHi, I found ugly regression in HAL package. I have laptop - Benq A53 - and when I (dis)connect AC adapter it is recognized by monitor software, but keyboard and touhpad works VERY laggy. Installig hal package from feisty resoves the problem02:44
dmacefyrestrtr: this particular part of the behavior happened after i tried an xrandr command to put the ext. lcd right of the internal one02:44
dmacefyrestrtr: so i figured an xrandr --output LVDS --auto would bring it back to normal02:44
dmacebut no luck02:44
fyrestrtrmartyna: please file a bug02:44
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dmacefyrestrtr: ah ha! xrandr --output VGA --off02:47
martynafyrestrtr: of course i will. Maybe some useful information (script name etc) can I provide?02:47
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fyrestrtrmartyna: just provide the description as you have pasted it here, the devs will assign it to the appropriate component.02:49
dmacefyrestrtr: this page describes how someone managed to use mismatched resolutions: http://www.jimmy.co.at/weblog/?p=7302:50
dmacei am gonna go experiment with it. brb02:50
martynafyrestrtr: heh, thanks. I filled few bugs, but it always took long time. I have only one week to fix it :(02:50
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murlidharmy booting takes place a good 5 minutes even my windows takes 1.50 min to boot . what is the problem?02:55
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fyrestrtrmurlidhar: disable silent boot and see what is taking so long.02:57
dbgltsince upgrading to gusty, there seems to be something wrong with my network: knetworkmanager is not showing any available wireless networks (although I know at least two are in range)02:57
dbgltdoes anyone know what I can do to fix this?02:57
murlidharfyrestrtr: how to do that?02:57
Pete__Konqueror seems to take 5 seconds or so to start loading a site if a dns name is used, ip addresses works fine, firefox also works. Is anyone else experiencing this?02:57
fyrestrtredit /boot/grub/menu.lst and disable the silent option.02:57
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dbkimhi02:59
dbkimis there anyone tried 7.10?03:00
_bthi, adobe flash is not available on 64 bit systems so why does firefox provide it as an option (and install it) when i browse to a flash based site?03:00
dbkimI know it's going to be release 4 days later but I can't wait until that time!! =P03:00
murlidharfyrestrtr: u mean the quiet word in menu.lst03:00
murlidhar?03:00
Hobbsee_bt: gnash?03:00
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dbkimanyone?03:00
Hobbsee!patience | dbkim03:00
ubotudbkim: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:00
Hobbseedbkim: most people here are using it.03:01
_btHobbsee: i know i can use gnash, but adobe flash should NOT be provided as an option on 64 bit systems as this only serves to confuse people03:01
dbkimoh really03:01
webulator70fyrestrtr: its definatly pulseaudio that makes the needed change03:01
dbkimHobbsee, I'm worrying about serious problems03:01
dbkimHobbsee, is there any serious problem or bug on 7.10?03:01
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Hobbseedbkim: there are some bugs.  *shrug*03:02
fyrestrtrwebulator70: okay, now you can find out what files it changes.03:02
dbkimHobbsee, oh really03:02
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Hobbseehm, i wonder why we're bulding this for amd64 now03:02
dbkimHobbsee, then I should be patience until 7.10 is came out03:02
webulator70fyrestrtr: getting there but i need a deb of fschange03:02
Hobbseebug #13345203:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 133452 in flashplugin-nonfree "gutsy amd64: flashplugin-nonfree not working" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13345203:03
Hobbseedbkim: it wont change much now03:03
dbkimHobbsee, hum...03:03
dbkimHobbsee, that's true03:03
dbkimHobbsee, thanks I will install 7.10 right now =)03:03
fyrestrtrwebulator70: here are the files for pulseaudio > http://packages.debian.org/etch/pulseaudio/i386/filelist03:04
Hobbsee_bt: it definetly doesnt work on 64bit systems?03:04
Hobbseeit seems that people think ht has started to03:04
webulator70fyrestrtr: oh man thats alot of files03:04
_bthobsee, no i had to run nspluginwrapper -i .....03:04
Hobbsee  * debian/control: produce amd64 binaries and depend on03:05
Hobbsee    nspluginwrapper [amd64]  to make this feasible.03:05
Hobbseehm, apparently i'ts supposed to work.03:05
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_bthobsee: "I did the trick simply by removing: .mozilla/plugins, Maybe .mozilla/plugins was created by an old version of nspluginwrapper and not needed anymore."  << from that bug report, i think this applies to me03:06
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unggnuhi all, anybody here with a Sony laptop03:07
Pete__unggnu: Yep, I am03:07
Pete__I have*03:07
unggnuPete__, cool, does your brightness work?03:08
unggnuHow much modi do you have?03:08
Pete__unggnu: I use a utility called smartdimmer for it, and yes.03:08
Pete__unggnu: FE21M03:08
Pete__Does not work on FZ series I believe03:08
unggnudamn, nvidia card :(03:09
Pete__unggnu: Which model do you have?03:09
unggnuTX203:09
unggnuAnyone else with a Sony laptop :)03:09
unggnuPete__, Your laptop doesn't use the sony-laptop interface since it has an nvidia card I guess.03:10
Pete__Yep, I guess so. You are an intel onboard then?03:11
daekdroomDoes envy support gutsy?03:14
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Pete__daekdroom: What is wrong with the repo drivers?03:15
Seeker`does anyone know where the shortcut win+c is defined - it seems to center my mouse on the screen03:15
daekdroomPete__: they seem to don't support 3D acceleration.03:15
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Pete__daekdroom: nvidia or ati?03:16
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daekdroomPete__: ATI x110003:16
arcilwhere can i file bugs for packages?03:16
Pete__I think I remember a modification for envy to let it work with gusty03:17
daekdroomPete__: XORG is using "ati" drivers, i've no idea why i can't use compiz fusion.03:17
murlidharfyrestrtr: nothing on the screen. have removed the work ' quiet ' from menu.lst still can't see anything until the login windows shows up03:17
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xsachadaekdroom: because those drivers only support up to x105003:18
xsacharadeon 7000 -> x105003:18
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daekdroomxsacha: damn.03:19
daekdroomxsacha: so i've to install ATI drivers?03:19
xsachaunfortunately :(03:19
daekdroomxsacha: ah ye, x1100 = x20003:19
unggnuPete__, yes03:19
xsachayeah x200m is the exception -- unsupported for 3d03:19
daekdroom.... damn.03:19
xsachax1100 is the same03:19
xsachashould work with the closed drivers tho :)03:20
daekdroomwell, as i can't use envy and Ubuntu proprietary driver tool doesn't work here...03:20
daekdroomI'm going to download them at ati.com =P03:20
xsachammm restricted drivers dont work?03:20
xsachai dont recommend ati.com03:20
xsachatry n get restricted working?03:20
Seeker`I seem to be unable to define shortcuts in amarok03:20
daekdroomi'm using those which come with ubuntu03:21
xsachai know03:21
xsachabut you can go to restricted in ubuntu and get the fglrx driver03:21
daekdroombut restricted drivers tool don't start here.03:21
daekdroomand when i try to change into fglrx driver.. wel.. nothing happens.03:21
murlidharcan't see anything on my screen till the login window comes up . Why . Somebody help me and the boot up time takes a long time03:21
daekdroomi downloaded the packages using synapitc.03:21
xsachamm no good :( thats with the RC?03:22
daekdroomDo i have to close X to change teh drivers?03:22
daekdroomyes03:22
xsachamust be bug i guess, i havent tried03:22
xsachayeah X needs to be restarted if you change xorg.conf03:22
daekdroomwhen i try System > Adm > Screen and Graphics it doesn't do anything03:23
daekdroomRC isn't  a good option when you have hardware compatibility problems..03:23
daekdroomI needed to try 5 tutorials till i got my USB modem working03:23
xsachahehe03:23
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daekdroomxsacha: i have to edit the "/etc/x11/ one or the one that is at "/usr/share/xresprobe/" ?03:25
aLeSDlittle problem03:25
xsachathe /etc/X1103:25
aLeSDgreeter crashs in my system after an update03:25
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daekdroomxsacha: so after i modify it i press Crtl + alt + backspace?03:27
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Pete__Hmm, its not just konqueror, adept manager/updater is slow also03:28
sebsebsebstupid me,  let's  test the trying to send something to the deleted items,  from the NTFS partition,  that I am now able to do stuff with in Gutsy.   oh  damn deleted something I wanted to keep really.  it's not in deleted items in Gutsy.  will it be in Vista's  recyle bin, I guess not.  is  there any way I can get it back?  without needing to download it again03:28
penguin42yeesh - nope, don't like kvirc - time to try a different one03:28
jon9314i have gutsy rc1 installed and my /home partition is on a second hard drive. when finnal release comes out i wan't to clean install. will i be able to save my /home easily?03:29
Powerking89670sebsebseb: because of the way it was deleted, it is likely gone forever; if it IS in the recycle bin let me know so i can say "WTF!"03:29
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sebsebsebwhat way was it deleted?03:30
sebsebsebalso if I am doing stuff with the NTFS partition in Gutsy,  when I try and boot up Vista later on,  it might not like it I think?03:31
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Powerking89670sebsebseb: it was actuallyed DELETED; windows moves the files you "delete" into the recycle bin first, the NTFS partition handler for linux will not do that03:31
sebsebsebI see03:32
sebsebsebeven though it says it is being sent to delete items hummmmmm03:32
Powerking89670sebsebseb: As long as you dont mess with any system settings, or know what your doing, yes it may flip out03:32
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sebsebsebyes exactly at the moment seems I can delete anything I want from inside Linux with that NTFS partition.  I am not stupid enough to delete some system file myself for Vista,  but something could happen I guess,  and one or more gets deleted.03:33
xsachavirus could delete it03:33
sebsebsebexactly03:33
xsachabecause other partitions dont have same protection03:33
sebsebsebaltough there aren't that many viruses for Linux?03:33
Powerking89670sebsebseb: they exist, but not like on windows03:34
Pete__especially ones that go hunting for NTFS partitions ;)03:34
sebsebseband I would have to pretty much say,  yes install this virus in Linux?03:34
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Powerking89670sebsebseb: You would have to be pretty damn stupid to get one :p03:34
sebsebsebwas that a joke Pete___ ?03:34
Powerking89670sebsebseb: or, perhaps you anger someone who knows linux very well...that wouldnt be a smart idea either03:35
Powerking89670:p03:35
Pete__Yes, I wouldn't personally worry about something going for your vista partition, you could mount it read only?03:36
Powerking89670sebsebseb: the only thing I can advice is to be careful :p03:36
sebsebsebin the past I had my  Gutsy alpha something partition (which later removed, and re installed Feisty,  and yesterday upgrade to Gutsy RC)  and  before the reinsalling of course I had data to back up so on.03:36
sebsebseband this computer only has one CD drive,  so coudn't simpally put in a Live CD,  and burn stuff with K3B03:36
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sebsebsebso  I tryed out an  Ext2/3 driver in Vista,  that made it so I could  do anything I wanted with my  Ext3  Linux partition of the time03:36
sebsebsebincluding deleting system stuff.  and now basically I got the reverse here in Gutsy03:37
sebsebsebwith my NTFS partition03:37
sebsebsebsurely I can set up permission on the NTFS partition,  and so no I just want to read these folders?03:37
sebsebseband say03:37
sebsebsebno I Just want to read these folders03:37
Powerking89670sebsebseb: yes, you can mount the drive as read-only03:38
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daekdroomhow do i active compiz fusion?03:38
Powerking89670sebsebseb: someone else should help you with that mounting bussiness; it gives me a headache locally as it is :P03:38
sebsebsebnot sure how to do that,  but it does become a bit more convient now if I can write to say my documents and what not in Vista,  from Linux03:38
sebsebsebaltough I got a 40GB or so Fat32 for sharing files between both OS's03:39
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jon9314i have gutsy rc1 installed and my /home partition is on a second hard drive. when finnal release comes out i wan't to clean install. will i be able to save my /home easily?03:40
sebsebsebif you got home in it's own partition03:40
sebsebsebyou can just upgrade RC103:40
sebsebsebyes  if you upgrade Gutsy it will upgrade to the final03:40
sebsebsebif you want to do a proper clean install you should be able to just delete the Gutsy partitions whilst keeping your home03:41
sebsebseband then re install and you got your home partition still there and working yes03:41
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jon9314anything specal during the install?03:41
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sebsebsebwhy do you want to clean install?  why not just apply all updates03:42
sebsebsebthen you get the final03:42
sebsebsebthat's easier03:42
Powerking89670job9314: dont format the old /home partition, and use it as your new /home partition03:42
jon9314restricted drivers arn't working. not sure if it is somthing i did.03:42
Powerking89670its like you've got 4 partitions, /, boot, home, and swap03:42
Powerking89670you wipe /, boot, and swap, but dont wipe home03:43
penguin42has anyone seen 'kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Parse error in /home/dg/.config/menus/applications-merged/xdg-desktop-menu-dummy.menu, line 1, col 1: unexpected end of file' - it seems to be an empty file03:43
denndaHi there. Any idea why suspend2ram still doesn't always work? (screen is not turned on again) - Any ideas how to fix it?03:43
sebsebsebsuspend 2 ram?03:43
denndasebsebseb: yes03:43
sebsebsebsleep mode?03:43
jon9314so it wont be hard at all?  thanks03:43
denndasebsebseb: the correct term is suspend to ram, but yes. sleep03:43
denndaanything stops working except RAM03:43
Powerking89670dennda: I had that same problem back in fiesty, it may be a hardware issue, but i'm not certain03:44
sebsebsebsame here,  altough not tryed with03:44
sebsebsebupgrade to Gutsy RC03:44
sebsebsebaltough I think same thing will apply03:44
denndaPowerking89670: well, it worked in gutsy some updates ago. but now it always fails03:44
sebsebsebif I put in sleep mode03:44
Powerking89670jon9314: nope, thats the purpose of putting it onto the new partition :p03:44
sebsebsebit seems to do it all,  but then I carn't get it back on again working,  altough it works fine in Vista of course on this same computer03:44
denndathis is gutsy with latest updates03:44
Powerking89670dennda: same here, but I'm not gonna test mine atm....I dont want to reboot just yet :p03:44
jon9314great thanks03:45
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sebsebsebdennda:  I guess there isan't a driver for yours and my computer hence why sleep dosan't work for us03:45
denndasebsebseb: as i said: it worked once in gutsy but does no more03:45
Powerking89670sebsebseb & dennda: I'm not sad about it not working...I hope to get new hardware soon anyway :D03:45
denndait worked perfectly well with tribe 5 + some updates. but then, after updating further it keeps failing03:45
sebsebsebit don't work for you also?03:45
sebsebsebpowerking03:46
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Powerking89670sebsebseb: I doubt it, I havent tested though03:46
sebsebseband this computer is from March or so, so resaonblly new hardware I guess, altough quite standard PC really03:46
sebsebseband sleep works fine in Vista on here03:46
sebsebsebdamn useful feature to03:46
Powerking89670sebsebseb: you dont want to know my specs...you just dont :p03:46
sebsebseb128MB RAM :d03:47
denndai will try it with fglrx, although i doubt it works03:47
Powerking89670512 :p03:47
sebsebseb1GB here of course since this comp came with Visduh shit Home Premium03:47
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Powerking89670Just install XP over the Vista03:48
sebsebseb,but my old computer had 128MB or so yes03:48
sebsebsebVista is better than XP in certain ways,  but03:48
boteekaHello everyone03:48
sebsebsebI would rather use Ubuntu or some other Linux distro like that, over  Vista or XP any day :)03:48
Powerking89670sebsebseb: or do what I did, just install Gutsy...I dont have windows at all...except for that Virtual Machine :p03:48
boteekaHave you ever tinkered with pulseaudio?03:49
Powerking89670boteeka: Just ask your question, if anyone can answer it; they will :D03:49
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boteekaI have installed pulseaudio from the default gutsy repos, but sometimes randomly the sound is broken with it03:50
Pete__Problem all along was IPv6, working now!03:50
boteekathere is a problem with the playback speed03:50
boteekait plays too fast03:50
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Powerking89670sebsebseb: why are you CTCP'ing my Version and Ping :p03:50
boteekaI have an onboard nvidia soundstorm audio system with opensource intel drivers03:51
sebsebseb,because I love you why else ha ha :d03:51
Powerking89670:p03:51
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soul9hi!03:52
soul9isn't the new intel driver supposed to be able to give dinamically set up dual-screen?03:52
soul9because in the graphics settings I can't do a dual-monitor set-up03:53
soul9either it's the internal monitor, either it's the external crt, but not both?03:53
soul9s/?/.03:53
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murlidharhow can i enable my startup screen ??????? please tell me plus there is no shutdown screen too03:57
murlidhar:(03:57
soul9what's a startup screen?03:58
soul9you mean you have text scrolling when starting your machine and you want a picture?03:58
murlidharno i don't have that too03:58
soul9wtf?03:59
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murlidharA graphical screen tthat tells me the position of the ubuntu loading03:59
soul9what do you have instead?04:00
murlidharsoul9: ^04:00
murlidharnothing04:00
soul9that's impossible04:00
murlidharjust a blank till the login screen comes04:00
soul9what graphics card do you have?04:01
murlidharwell the inbuilt one in intel 84504:01
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soul9that's strange04:01
soul9!paste04:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:01
murlidharwhat should i paste?04:01
soul9paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst file there please04:01
murlidhark04:02
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murlidharsoul9: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40626/04:03
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daekdroomhow do i active compiz fusion?04:04
amrhi, i am haviing problem with gusty , when i start gusty the 2 boxes where i type username and password , the fonts of user and password ar so big and when i log in the title bar of all windows are very big and i am having a fresh install and that problem in both live cd and fresh install any one knows how can i fix it04:04
amrand when i restart x the problem solved for windows only but not the user and password box04:05
penguin42amr: Which graphics card do you have and what res monitor?04:05
amrintel graphic media accelerator04:06
joakim-i have a problem with setting up two monitors in gutsy04:06
amr1280x80004:06
joakim-the settings i make in displayconfig-gtk doesnt seem to be saved04:06
joakim-works nice when i test it through there04:06
amrdidn't try to use 2 monitors04:06
soul9murlidhar, what resolution do you use?04:07
joakim-but its not saved04:07
murlidharsoul9: 1440X90004:07
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soul9wow04:07
penguin42amr: OK go to the system menu then administration ->Screens and Graphics04:07
soul9same as me :-)04:07
murlidhar:004:07
murlidhar:)04:07
amrok done04:08
soul9murlidhar, so in that file, try changing every vga=773 to vga=79104:08
penguin42has the video problem with the Intel drivers been fixed? I dropped back to the i810 driver04:08
soul9then try it04:08
penguin42(video as in video playback)04:08
murlidharsoul9: in feisty it was fine04:08
murlidharsoul9: k04:08
soul9well, dunno04:08
soul9for me it was fine in feisty and it's fine in gutsy too :-/04:09
soul9actually I think it's a lot prettier in gutsy04:09
murlidharbrb04:10
soul9penguin42, nope, the intel drivers are still crap04:12
amrplease any one can help me to mute my laptop speakers when plugin my headphone04:12
soul9no dual-screen display04:12
soul9and video playback sucks too04:12
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soul9how long will these drivers remain beta?04:13
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LerrisOut of curiosity does anyone have k3b burning dvds using a sata dvd recorder on an amd64 platform?  I'm having no luck, and its not the recorder since I got what I needed done with an old 32bit knoppix lusb thumbdrive.04:15
penguin42soul9: Oh well, I'll stick to the i810 drivers, they're pretty solid04:15
soul9yeah04:15
soul9penguin42, though dual-display sucks even more on that one04:15
penguin42soul9: With the Intel ones being the default we're going to have a hell of a lot of traffic on here in a week or so then!04:15
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murlidharsoul9: it gave me a message " undefined code . please change the number. " and then booted but nothing on the screen again04:17
soul9lol04:17
soul9murlidhar, hmm, strange04:17
soul9try vga=ask04:18
soul9it'll then give you options04:18
soul9iirc04:18
murlidharin the terminal?04:18
murlidharsoul9: ^04:19
soul9no04:20
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murlidharwhere then?04:20
soul9in that /boot/grub/menu.lst file04:20
soul9change vga=whatever to vga=ask04:20
murlidhark04:20
soul9for the first kernel only, you don't need it for the rest04:20
soul9it's just to find out which one works04:20
soul9then just try them out, memorize their numbers and put the number of the one that worked in menu.lst04:21
murlidharbrb04:22
kingrayraysometimes when i am trying to define custom actions for a specific filetype in nautilus it says it cant add the applicatoin to the database04:24
kingrayraydoes the same thing when i try to make wine handle .exe files04:24
kingrayraylike, do i have to make a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications or something? its just a shell script i'm trying to use :/04:26
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kingrayrayhttp://kingrayray.wallooza.org/Screenshot.png <- like that04:29
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murlidharsoul9:  the codes that i have got is very much different04:32
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murlidharsoul9:  the codes are like 0f07 - 80X6004:33
Laser87Hi!04:33
soul9murlidhar, I think those codes work too, if you put them after vga04:34
Laser87I have probs with Gran Paradiso04:34
soul9I'm not really sure, though04:34
Laser87Anybody using it?04:34
soul9I'll look around04:34
soul9Laser87, is it working nice?04:34
soul9murlidhar, have you found any mode that works for you?04:34
murlidharno i there are many so tried few of them there04:35
soul9I don't know, do you have the usplash package installed?04:35
Laser87soul9: No, I have no files, edit... on the top. Only when I move mouse over it04:35
Laser87It's firefox3.0a804:36
soul9that might be a feature04:36
Laser87and no tabs are shown - never...04:36
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soul9that's strange04:37
Laser87soul9: That's why I asked, if anybody else uses Gran Paradiso and if  there is the same prob04:39
daekdroomHow do i active compiz-fusion?04:39
soul9you active compiz-fusion?04:40
gnomefreakdaekdroom: system>prefferences>apprearnce04:40
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paducahguyfreak .. i need your help.. lol04:40
daekdroomgnomefreak: it's not working04:40
boris_get open source driver (if u got ati card) and then u can start in in system>preferences>appearance>visualization04:40
paducahguyok04:40
paducahguyhmm04:40
daekdroomboris_: i'm using fgrlx and i still can't active it04:41
gnomefreakdaekdroom: what video card do you have? did you install drivers? can you give me an error? how did you install the drivers?04:41
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Laser87penguin42: yeah, it has been alright til last week - now it is alpha8 instead of alpha7  and these probs04:41
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ximalfreak you there ?04:41
boris_daekdroom fglrx for ati doesnt work04:41
daekdroomgnomefreak: X1100 onboard, yes, "desktop effects can't be activated", synapitc04:41
daekdroomboris_: so what do i have to install?04:41
boris_wait a sec ill get u a link04:41
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boris_daekdroom https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver04:42
boris_i got compiz fusion workin on ati rv35004:42
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boris_but i dont know how to get fusion workin with nvidia04:43
boris_this guide worked for me04:43
mc44daekdroom: you need to get xserver-xgl04:43
daekdroomboris_: it says 2D acceleration only: "200M Northbridge integrated", x1100 is x200 :/04:43
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boris_sorry then04:44
ximali got irssi working ... but umm.. heh... i accidentally got it auto-joining ubtuntu also.. lol04:44
hetaumahow can I use in oOffice times new roman or other true type fotns?04:44
ximalhow do i remove some channels from auto join ?04:44
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boris_daekdroom does fglrx driver work for 3D games ?04:44
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daekdroomno idea04:45
mc44hetauma: the msttcorefonts has fonts such as times new roman04:45
saeedhi, anyone knows how to setup compiz-fusion in kubuntu?04:46
saeedI have installed gutsy04:46
gnomefreakgutsy?04:46
saeedyes04:46
boris_saeed what graphic card ?04:46
gnomefreakinstall the packages install your video card driver using restricted-manager04:47
saeedintel 91504:47
hetaumamc44, ty04:47
boris_gnomefreak im not sure if propietary drivers work04:47
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daekdroomboris_: yes they don't04:47
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gnomefreakboris_: for the 915 either they are installed already or he uses the xserver-xorg-video-intel (name of package might be wrong)04:48
daekdroomgnomefreak: I'm using them, because the "Ati" one screws up brightness configuration xD04:48
saeedbut how do I start the darn thing?04:48
saeedI read there's compiz-icon04:48
boris_just a sec04:48
gnomefreaksaeed: no not yet and havent heard if or not04:48
saeedthat allows u to switch between kwin and compiz04:48
saeedLOL04:48
boris_Compiz Fusion Icon is a tray icon that provides quick access to CCSM, Emerald Theme Manager, and basic functions (eg. switching WMs or decorators). For debian sid users, it is included in shame's repo. To install from git, "sudo apt-get install git-core" then do the following: git clone git://anongit.opencompositing.org/users/crdlb/fusion-icon && cd fusion-icon && sudo make install04:48
saeedit's been out for a long time now04:48
gnomefreaksaeed: we have somthing already that does that from mouth of compiz devel04:49
saeedI had it running in Sabayon Linux04:49
daekdroomboris_: no 3d acceleration, no way to run it here.04:49
saeedhow do I get it please?04:49
boris_get what ?04:49
gnomefreaksaeed: read the instructions above04:49
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saeedthanks guys04:50
saeedat least I got some answers here04:50
gnomefreaksaeed: my suggestion is to set up compiz first04:50
saeedhow do I do that?04:50
gnomefreaksaeed: ask in right channel you will04:50
saeedI have no idea how to do it04:50
gnomefreaksaeed: install it04:50
gnomefreakinstall your drivers if not already04:51
saeedI installed everything related to compiz and compiz-fusion04:51
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boris_daekdroom you should get a new card or something04:51
gnomefreaksaeed: on kde its different on gnome you would have it runing by default but you need to find in menu something for appearance and there should be somthing there04:52
boris_but i hear ati is going to release propietary drivers that work with compiz fusion04:52
murlidharsoul9:  i have a few doubts in the synaptic there are currently three kernels installed 2.6.22-14 ,   2.6.22-15   2.6.22-16 and in the menu i see only 2.6.22-1404:52
saeedI have nothing like that in kubuntu04:52
saeednothing that mentions desktop effects04:52
mc44boris_: they already work with it, but you need to use xgl. They are going to have aiglx drivers soon04:52
boris_mc44 well thats it04:53
gnomefreaksaeed: did you install the kdeconfigure package for compiz?04:53
saeedI guess the kubuntu developers don't care much about 3d effects04:53
mc44saeed: try asking in #kubuntu04:53
saeedI have been there04:53
boris_mc44 xgl is worse than aiglx, much worse04:53
gnomefreaksaeed: they are waiting for kwin04:53
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gnomefreakmc44: no04:53
saeedthey know nothing about compiz04:53
Konamwhere can I change the shades on comments in compiz-fusion?04:53
soul9murlidhar, yeah, that sounds like no good04:53
KonamI think that options seems to be causing me problems: http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3956/pantallazoml6.png04:53
saeedI have install ALL compiz-packages04:53
murlidharsoul9:  i also have starup-manager04:53
soul9murlidhar, you could try duplicating the lines of that kernel and changing -14 to -16..04:53
gnomefreaksaeed: ther eis a kde package for compiz make sure you have it than it will give you a menu item04:53
soul9murlidhar, what's that?04:54
saeedI have installed all of them04:54
saeedwhich one do u have in mind?04:54
murlidharsoul9: it is the graphical end to grub.menu04:54
gnomefreaksaeed: than there IS  a menu item you just have to find it04:54
soul9murlidhar, oh04:54
boris_saeed try searching 'compiz kde'04:54
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soul9murlidhar, well, I don't now, I like editing textfiles, at least I see what's happening. I wouldn't let a graphical tool mess up my menu.lst..04:55
saeedhere's what I have in my menu relating to compiz : ccsm and emerlad04:55
boris_yo ppl04:55
gnomefreaksaeed: compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig04:55
murlidharbut that's how i came to know that there are 3 kernels installed04:55
murlidharsoul9: ^04:55
boris_it seems beryl is gone in synaptic04:55
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boris_whys that ?04:56
mc44boris_: beryl doesn't exist any more04:56
gnomefreaksaeed: ccsm is nto a package in gutsy04:56
boris_emerald themes package is gone as well04:56
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boris_mc44 but emerald does04:56
soul9murlidhar, whatever04:56
gnomefreakis not04:56
soul9murlidhar, look in /boot, in /04:56
soul9check if you have the same in menu.lst04:56
mc44boris_: compiz fusion is beryl/compiz04:56
boris_mc44 yes i know04:57
saeedI have ALL packages related to compiz installed04:57
saeedALL of them04:57
murlidharsoul9: it shows all three of them04:57
mc44boris_: then why ask where beryl is04:57
boris_mc44 but emerald themes are gone and emerald is included in fusion04:57
murlidharnow04:57
boris_well04:57
gnomefreaksaeed: you also have packages that are not in gutsy installedd that can be causing conflict04:57
soul9murlidhar, what does?04:57
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boris_mc44 they could keep it04:57
gnomefreaksaeed: and you cant have all of them installed anyway04:57
soul9well, this is too mch for me04:57
murlidharsoul9: all the three kernels04:57
saeedI have everything installed, the only ones missing are for development04:58
murlidharsoul9: should i go and uninstalled the old kernels04:58
gnomefreaksaeed: read the docs or uninstall them and reinstall them04:58
saeedand I am not a compiz developer04:58
soul9murlidhar, no04:58
murlidhark04:58
soul9murlidhar, uname -a should tell you what kernel you're running04:58
gnomefreaksaeed: pastebin the output of dpkg -L compiz*04:59
murlidharright now its 1404:59
murlidhari guess04:59
soul9so start 16?04:59
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murlidharit's 1504:59
gnomefreaksorry its dpkg -l compiz*04:59
boris_i want windows to burn (in compiz fusion) when i minimize them, is it possible05:00
murlidharshall i first try 16 and the grub ? soul905:00
murlidharat*05:00
soul9well, try to boot the -16 kernel05:00
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mc44boris_: use compizconfig-settings-manager05:00
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murlidharbrb05:00
ayobdkhello05:00
soul9I'm not sure that'll help you, but it might05:00
saeedhttp://pastebin.ca/73642405:00
boris_mc44 do you think im stupid or what ? it doesnt work i tried it05:01
ayobdkany way to have an ati card diaplay a 1440x900 resolution_05:01
saeedhere's what I get when I run dpkg -l compiz*05:01
ayobdk?05:01
mc44boris_: you set minimize animation to burn?05:02
gnomefreaklibcompizconfig-backend-kconfig saeed install it05:02
saeedI have it installed05:02
saeedI checked in adept manager05:02
saeedit's there05:02
gnomefreakdpkg -l libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig05:03
gnomefreakwhat version is installed05:03
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saeedhttp://pastebin.ca/73642605:04
saeedhere's what I get when I search for that package05:04
gnomefreaksaeed: there is a  menu entry (should be without that package anyway afaik) but you are saying its not there so either its a bug that needs to be filed or you are not looking hard enough did you try starting it from terminal?05:04
saeednope05:05
saeedhow do I start it from konsole?05:05
gnomefreakcompiz (not sure if you would use --replace-kwin or not) try compiz to run it05:05
gnomefreaksaeed: also assuming you are using kde 3.5.705:06
saeedyes05:07
gnomefreaksaeed: errors here will help if any05:07
gnomefreakbrb smoke05:07
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Ximalguess what ! muhahaha.. I got my irssi configred finally..05:08
Ximallol05:08
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Ximalhey pricechild ! how ya been ?05:08
tazzi installed gutsy last night with netinstall but it is taking too long to boot now....05:09
tazzit took 50 min too boot in single user mode....05:09
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tazzany one wanna help me debug?05:09
XimalWould someone be willing to take the time to answer a couple size and partition questions ?05:10
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KonamXimal just ask05:10
XimalI need to know when I rip/decrypt movies that I am being told I am out of harddrive space ?05:10
tazzXimal, is some on can answer they will, so ask :-)05:10
Ximalkonam thanks , but sometimes you guys are so busy helping others.. my trivial issues are not of a big concern.. just little tweaks..05:10
Ximalthanks konam and tazz ;)05:11
tazzXimal, you are sure you have enough disk space?05:11
Ximalyes.. lemme open gpart05:11
Konamyou're being told when you're running out of space05:11
tazzwhy do you need gpart?05:12
Ximalno.. just that I don't have enough space05:12
Ximali don't need it.. i installed it as a secondary tool.. to show me hard drive statistics ;)05:12
Ximalok .. why do i have /dev/sda2 and sda4 ... with 2 swaps ?05:12
KonamXimal if you don't have enough space and your home is in the same partition as root, you will be warned before you start the process05:13
Ximalare from different possible installs ? i don't get it..05:13
Ximali see two swaps.. i thought i needed only 105:13
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KonamXimal am I getting you wrong?05:13
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Laser87Ximal: u get 2 swaps from different installations when running automatic installation05:13
Ximalhmm05:14
Ximalbut i always deleted old swaps.. etc05:14
Ximali only have 1 installation i thought..05:14
Laser87Ximal: when u choose: installation on biggest free space05:14
Ximalyeah05:15
XimalI did .. lol05:15
Ximalbut i chose the remaining free space..05:15
Ximaland I would delete the last partitions not related to windows..05:15
Laser87Ximal: then u still have the old installation and on the biggest free space a brand new installation, including a brand new swap05:15
Ximalhmm05:16
Ximalso ...05:16
Ximalshould i delete old partitions ?05:16
Ximali don't know what to do..05:16
Laser87Ximal: if u don't need em anymore... b shure to keep your /home :-)05:17
Ximalwell05:17
Laser87-h05:17
Ximali figured the one with the most USED space is the partition i should not bother/edit05:18
Ximallol05:18
Ximalso i'd delete the other one..05:18
Laser87Ximal: at least u can delete one swap05:18
Ximaland then ..05:18
Ximaljoin the free space with the larger one05:18
Laser87<- beer is empty b***s***05:19
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RivaeAeryaHow do i make the updater stop asking me questions? I'm upgrading to Gutsy and it's stopping all the time just because it's overwriting some config files or i have to configure something..05:19
RivaeAeryaand, can i use my computer while it's upgrading?05:19
tazzRivaeAerya, sure you can use your comp05:20
RivaeAeryatazz: ok :)05:20
RivaeAeryatazz: and how do i stop that updater from asking me questions?05:20
tazzyou may have to reboot your comp once you are done upgrading though.05:21
tazzRivaeAerya, try the -F option.05:21
Ximali'm sorry if i didn't reply.. would someone mind telling me how to scroll up in irssi to see what i missed ?05:21
RivaeAeryatazz: it's already busy05:21
Ximalughh nm05:21
RivaeAeryatazz: i can't abort it05:21
tazzXimal, page up button.05:21
Ximalhaha.. so simple it's not funny05:21
Ximallol05:22
Ximalok05:22
Ximalgoing to do some surgery on my partitions.. wish me luck guys ;)05:22
tazzRivaeAerya, you can but i would not advice that. :-)05:22
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RivaeAeryatazz: where would i use that -F option?05:22
sleepynateg'luck ximal05:22
Ximalwait..05:22
Ximaldo i just JOIN both of the swaps together ?05:22
tazzRivaeAerya, you would use the -f option in commandline.05:22
RivaeAeryatazz: on what program?05:23
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Ximalwhat's the need of swap ?05:23
Ximaldoes larger swaps make a difference /.05:23
Ximal?05:23
Laser87Ximal: swap should be around twice of ram05:23
tazzRivaeAerya,  umm the commandline as in konsole i guess. but you are using gui arnt you?05:23
RivaeAeryatazz: yep05:23
LiMaOLaser87: that's not the recommended setting anymore, is it?05:23
tazzXimal, just keep the swap size below 1 gb05:24
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tazzRivaeAerya, then you will have to search for -F option.05:24
Laser87LiMaO: it's been always just a suggestion05:24
LiMaOLaser87: i should increase my swap size then =P05:25
RivaeAeryaLaser87: what happens if you increase swap size?05:25
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RivaeAeryatazz: but it's already busty05:25
RivaeAeryabusy*05:25
Ximalhmm05:25
Ximalso 1 gig then on the swap05:25
Laser87Ximal: u can watch what swap is used and then make it smaller05:25
Ximalgive the rest to the main partition ?05:25
Ximalhow do I KNOW ? which one05:26
boris_mc44 yes but it didnt work05:26
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mc44boris_: then perhaps your card can't handle that animation05:26
Ximalim going to assume the one with the LOCK next to it ?05:26
Laser87RivaeAerya: here I just have 256 ram - I need swap - up to 80%05:26
murlidharsoul9: now it's working the splash is working05:26
murlidhar:)05:26
RivaeAeryaLaser87: i have 512MB RAM05:26
RivaeAeryaLaser87: what's the needed swap for me?05:26
hydrogenwow...05:27
hydrogenmirrors.kernel.org sucking toda05:27
Laser87RivaeAerya: suggestion is 1 GB05:27
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boris_mc44 my card can handle it for sure, about a month ago when i had feisty and beryl it worked05:27
boris_im not sure if month ago05:27
Ximalwell ? please sirs ?05:27
tazzhydrogen, i get that on my GPRS phone ;-)05:27
mc44boris_: well it works in compiz fusion here05:27
nanonymeheh05:28
nanonyme3g <305:28
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boris_mc44 what should i type for Window match?05:28
sleepynatevideo card would have as much ram as the rig ;D05:29
murlidharok i have only ubuntu and i can see the Three kernels in the grub menu list can i remove the the remaining one from synaptic????????05:29
mc44boris_: the default should be fine05:29
boris_well there is no default05:29
mc44boris_: press the little brush icon thingy05:29
Laser87murlidhar: I always keep the newest Kernel and the one before for security...05:30
boris_if i do everything is back to default and fire effect is gone, there is just Zoom05:30
murlidharLaser87: but i have there so do i remove the oldest one?05:30
mc44boris_: then just change zoom to burn05:30
murlidharLaser87: got three 3 kernels05:31
boris_mc44 now it wokrs05:31
boris_works05:31
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Laser87murlidhar: ya, u can remove the oldest Kernel05:32
sleepynatemurlidhar: if you really feel they've got to go... sudo rm /boot/vmlinuz-x.xx.xx or whatever it is05:32
murlidhar thanks guys05:33
Laser87murlidhar: should be possible in Synaptic too. the one with the smallest number :-)05:33
sleepynateoh yea05:33
sleepynatethat too :D05:33
murlidhar:)05:33
RivaeAeryamc44: may i use my computer while it's upgrading?05:33
murlidharright away05:34
tazzLaser87, right lick uninstall kernel in synaptic.05:34
boris_mc44 thanks for help05:34
Laser87murlidhar: and u r still here :-D05:34
mc44boris_: no problem05:34
murlidharRivaeAerya: since in upgrading it removes many services it is better if u don't use your comp05:34
RivaeAeryamurlidhar: hmm and this chat?05:35
RivaeAerya(konversation)05:35
murlidharLaser87: my home channel :)05:35
Laser87tazz: don#T know, I use the terminal, but I didn't know what way murlidhar prefers05:35
tazzapt-get remove from terminal05:36
RivaeAeryamurlidhar: can i still use konversation?05:36
RivaeAeryamurlidhar: and konqueror?05:36
tazzoh that was for murlidhar sorry ;-)05:36
murlidharLaser87: i prefer GUI05:36
Laser87murlidhar: Just wanted to say that u didn't crash your system :-D05:36
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murlidharnaah i did uname -a Laser87 ;)05:37
Konamwhere can I change the shades on comments in compiz-fusion?05:37
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KonamI mean, turn off the shades on comments05:38
Ximalok guys05:39
Ximali deleted the inactive partition...05:39
Ximalnow it won't let me kill the partition that's swap05:39
Ximali have 205:39
Ximal1 is 869 one is 1.6 gigs..05:39
Ximalthe 1.6 doesn't have a lock next to it.. it's inactive.. but it's giving me a 5 code05:39
Ximalsomething about unmounting it05:40
Laser87Ximal: u just can delete (or move or increase) partitions that are not mounted05:40
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Ximalno... i'm asking .. is it mounting both upon boot ?05:41
Laser87so u 1st have to unmount it or (my way) use the gparted-live-cd05:41
Ximalhmm05:42
murlidharLaser87: i uninstalled the other kernels but is it better to reinstall the current kernel since with the old kernel uninstallation several packages like linux-genaric-image and some others were also removed05:43
Ximalok laser87  : i'm saying the one without the lock gives me the option to swap on ..05:43
XimalI don't know why..05:43
Ximalbut it won't let me delete it05:43
Ximaldo i go to terminal and do /unmount /dev/sda505:43
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Ximalhow do i unmount the partiton ? unmount isn't working05:45
Ximaldo i change to it's directory first ?05:45
Laser87sry for the late replies - I have to go to work in a few minutes...05:45
murlidharfor resizing the partitions gparted-live-cd is the best option05:45
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Ximali'm not resizing..05:45
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Ximali'm using gparted05:46
Ximali'm deleting a swap..05:46
Laser87murlidhar: normally everything that is removed belongs to just this Kernel, so don't worry05:46
Ximalthen changing the active to 1gig05:46
Ximalthen goign to delete and merge freespace05:46
dave__I have Ubuntu 7.10 with Fluxbox 1.0 .   When I log in, I can't get that drop down menu to work.  I have used flux a while back, and I right click with the mouse and no menu comes up.  I tried different combinations with my 2 button mouse and no luck.05:46
Laser87Ximal: ya, unmount the swap u don't need, then delete it05:47
logreevalHello, I tried the Gutsy RC on the regular start/install, and when it tried to load the screen would "freeze" and then refocus and it just kept doing it, the only way to get it to work was in safe graphics mode...does anyone know what the problem is?05:47
vmlinuz-please I really do need a help. I bought a broadcast online streaming video that covers a tournoment in the united states of america, however they cover the tournoment via online video somehow, I log into the PAGE with my username it says05:48
vmlinuz-The ActiveX components did not initialize.05:48
vmlinuz-If you are running Internet Explorer on an MS Windows PC,05:48
vmlinuz-you can install the component manually by clicking here.05:48
vmlinuz-Then reload this page.05:48
Ximalhow do i unmount it please ?05:48
vmlinuz-sry for the paste. im really sorry05:48
LiMaOvmlinuz-: you probably need some plugin, probably a video player plugin05:48
Ximalvmlinuz do you have any java or flash installed ? are you using firefox ?05:48
vmlinuz-but yeah im using firefox here on ubuntu system, still can't view the streaming online video. can you help me05:48
gnomefreakumount is used to unmount something05:48
vmlinuz-i pay money for this event05:48
Laser87logreeval: try the alternate-cd to install - the desktop-cd I don't like and has bugs (I heard)05:48
Ximali got it limao ;)05:48
vmlinuz-Ximal: yep have both installed05:48
Ximalok05:48
mc44vmlinuz-: if you need activex you need to use IE05:49
vmlinuz-yea plugin probably but which05:49
Ximalwhat error is your browser giving you ?05:49
logreevalLaser87: ok, but may i ask why so many bugs on the regular one?05:49
Ximalcheck and see what plugin it is .. then tell us05:49
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Ximalclick on the box at the top of firefox that pops up05:49
vmlinuz-I'm on linux mc44, isnt' there activex for firefox or anyway for me to view this video at all? I don't own a microsoft pc05:49
LiMaOXimal: i'll be here if needed =)05:49
Ximallike when firefox blocks the popups05:49
vmlinuz-ok i'll click the link and see the filename05:49
vmlinuz-one second thank you05:49
Ximali wanna try helping it..05:49
mc44vmlinuz-: no, activex is not on linux05:49
Ximalthis be the first time :)05:49
vmlinuz-Thats its name. InstallUniDownloadPack3.exe05:49
LiMaOXimal: sure, that makes me proud of you =)05:49
vmlinuz-thats the file needed to be installed for IE05:49
Ximalmc44 ....05:49
Ximalok05:49
vmlinuz-can it be covered for firefox?05:49
Ximalwhat's the maker's website..05:50
Ximali'll check for you05:50
vmlinuz-https://www.onthenetsports.com/viewer.asp05:50
vmlinuz-this05:50
Ximalit should give you info in the error line05:50
Ximal1 moment05:50
Ximallemme check it out bro05:50
Laser87logreeval: don't ask me - but I guess it's a great Live-CD but not really good for installation05:50
vmlinuz-thanks Ximal05:50
vmlinuz-i dont want to miss this event -.-05:50
Ximalok05:50
vmlinuz-i almost fly for it to the united states if not my work.. >_<05:51
Ximalit's not loading for me either... in the demo one.. i get a blank black screen.. gonna scan the page source for extension..05:51
Ximalit may be an on the fly wmv server video..05:51
logreevalLaser87: ok, im just trying out gutsy i got to excited ;)05:51
Ximalwhich means you'll exclusively need windows..05:51
Ximal1 moment05:51
vmlinuz-yea same blank/grey screen for me05:51
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mc44vmlinuz-: you could run windows in a virtual machine05:52
LiMaOi'm gonna check out gutsy rc1 once again in a few minutes05:52
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Ximalok05:52
Ximali'm seeing this file m8..canvidplayer43.dll in the source..05:52
Ximali'm going to scan the site see if i can't pull it off and read it.. see if it's actually some kind of link library to code an active server video.. 1 moment m805:53
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vmlinuz-ok thanks i really appreciate it05:53
vmlinuz-can i run this boardcast via wine maybe? I have wine installed05:53
Ximalvmlinuz : contact the site admin ... when is the game ?05:54
thomas_ where in kubuntu can I modify the users shown at the loginmanager? I tried kcontrol > login manager but to no avail05:55
vmlinuz-the game is playing right now as we speak :<05:55
XimalIt looks like they're hiding their code ...05:55
Ximalhmmm05:55
Ximaldo you have windows installed at home anywhere ?05:55
Ximalhmmm05:55
vmlinuz-nop Ximal sadly no05:55
Ximal1 moment05:55
mc44vmlinuz-: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page05:55
Ximalgoing to try a trick..05:55
Ximalused to work ... try mc44's method right quick m8.. while i look05:55
Laser87wtf is a "windows"? sumthing to eat?05:56
Laser87:-D05:56
Ximalshh laser05:56
vmlinuz-ok tryin05:56
Ximallol05:56
Ximali'm trying to help the guy.. gimme some credit ;)05:56
Ximalheh05:56
Ximali'm going to try loading the url to the video of the demo.. if it works.. i'm sure he'll need a LIVE LOGIN and then to load the login's url to the video player05:56
Ximalit might work..05:56
Ximaldoubtful..05:57
bastid_raZorreferring him to windows is not going to help?05:57
Ximalkinda like proxying .. lol05:57
Ximalno.. but if he bought something..we don't want him hearing about it from his friends and ruin watching it05:57
Ximalright ?05:57
bastid_raZortrue.05:57
Ximalthis is respect to him as a user05:57
Ximalnot as a linux pro hacker zero c00l guy05:57
bastid_raZorrEspEct~!05:57
Ximalhe'll learn on his own.. like you guys helped me.. heh.. i bounce to windows when i have to.. but so far.. i've stuck it out..05:58
Ximalvmlinuz ... from now on m8.. ask site administrators if they support linux or have any specific restricted microsoft products.. such as live streaming video sometimes only streamed to microshaft users..05:58
vmlinuz-ok, now will send email too05:59
Ximalwhile you would have been able to watch it if they had chosen different security methods... unfortunately you may not be able to .. because they chose to only program in 1 language..05:59
vmlinuz-and trying IEs4linux now. its downloading on other terminal now05:59
Ximalhey05:59
Ximalhmmm..05:59
Ximalyou could try installing winamp for linux...05:59
bastid_raZortrying to watch somethign in a browser?05:59
Ximaland using winamp tv.. see if someone is live broadcasting the game ;)05:59
Laser87just a joke - i also still have winxp installed (but never booted it since ubuntu)05:59
sleepynatek fellas, wish my luck on the hardware update (i know... famous last words)05:59
vmlinuz-Ximal: is there winamp for linux? I will try that too now05:59
vmlinuz-sudo apt-get install winamp ?06:00
Ximalme either 87.. i'm actualy trying to crossover and save my windows partition about 6 or 8 gigs.. for dvd ripping linux can't do ;)06:00
Ximalhmm06:00
Ximallemme check06:00
_dan_vmlinuz- xmms or audiacious06:00
Laser87vmlinuz-: xmms06:00
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Ximaloh no guys.. this winamp will crossover the files06:00
_dan_Ximal sure u can tip dvd with linux06:00
Ximalprovide proper streaming..06:00
Laser87Ximal: linux is much better for dvd ripping06:00
_dan_Ximal mencoder and multiple gui frontends for example "dvdrip"06:01
Ximali know06:01
Ximalbut i found a dvd it couldn't rip06:01
Ximal;)06:01
Ximali got a special updated edition of dvd decryptor..06:01
Ximalupdated the first of the year..  :)06:01
vmlinuz-Laser87: xmms can run broadcasts streaming videos online?06:01
Ximalplus he can WINE winamp06:02
Ximal:)06:02
bastid_raZorvmlinuz-: yeah i'm getting the same error line 57 for that site06:02
Laser87vmlinuz-: xmms is the linux version of winamp06:02
Ximalif he can get a tcp connect..06:02
Ximalthen he can view the video possibly through it...06:02
RivaeAeryaGuys, the upgrader keeps throwing dialogs at me that say something like "There's a config file, you can replace it, or keep it." what should i do?06:02
RivaeAeryareplace?06:02
RivaeAeryaor keep?06:02
Ximalxmms is a freesource version06:02
vmlinuz-bastid_raZor: so i cant see it now :(06:02
Laser87have to leave now - get me some beer and up to work :-(06:02
RivaeAeryareplace, or keep?06:03
bastid_raZorRivaeAerya: if you have a said files personally edited .. me i keep my files.06:03
murlidharwell i paired my sony ericsson phone to my pc . So how do i send files to my phone?????06:03
RivaeAeryabastid_raZor: i mean while upgrading06:03
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bastid_raZormurlidhar: get bluetooth software06:04
RivaeAeryabastid_raZor: and i already said "replace" to the others06:04
RivaeAeryabut i don't know if that's a good choice06:04
RivaeAeryathis one's ntp.conf06:04
Ximalhttp://librenix.com/?inode=1377 i found this when googling for it vmlinus06:04
murlidharbastid_raZor: gutsy has one by default06:04
bastid_raZorRivaeAerya: i know. i got the same questions. like my bashrc file. i want to keep 'my' files coz i have them tweaked myself. don't want new ones erasing my hard work06:04
RivaeAeryabastid_raZor: well i didn't tweak any of em06:04
bastid_raZormurlidhar: true, and i see that in my toolbar now that you say that06:04
bastid_raZorRivaeAerya: then it probably wouldn't hurt to let gutsy install new ones.. replace06:05
murlidharbastid_raZor: i can send files to my computer06:05
bastid_raZormurlidhar: let me look and see what i use.06:05
RivaeAeryabastid_raZor: why do i get those questions anyways?06:05
Ximalcan someone please tell me how to mount a target partition please ?06:05
vmlinuz-IE installation is finished now, how to run it tho >_<06:05
bastid_raZorRivaeAerya: i would guess for the reason many of those files are modded by users that don't want them overridden. so the choice is a good thing for those who want to keep old configurations06:06
Ximali mean unmont *06:06
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Ximalgo to your wine in applications at top left06:06
RivaeAeryabastid_raZor: isn't ubuntu able to detect that? last time i upgraded to the final release it didn't ask me such questions06:06
Ximalit will bring a windows like startup menu ;)06:06
murlidharbastid_raZor: for further options go to preferences>bluetooth06:07
RivaeAeryabastid_raZor: maybe it's because this one is an Release Candidate?06:07
bastid_raZorximal sudo umount /media/location06:07
vmlinuz-Ximal: yea but It doesn't have IE06:07
bastid_raZorRivaeAerya: possibly.06:07
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thomas_hi, I get some users in the login sceen list that I rather would see hidden, where do I configure that (using kdm)06:07
Ximalsudo: unmount: command not found06:07
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thomas_Ximal: umount06:08
murlidharRivaeAerya: even i got the same ntp question and even i didn't tweak them don't worry overwrite it06:08
Ximalumount: /dev/sda5: not mounted06:08
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thomas_mount it first?06:08
RivaeAeryamurlidhar: ok but it prevents me from doing anything else because i have to stay with the update so that when it asks me a question it doesn't stop upgrading06:08
markelhashi ppl can i change my ubuntu disk partition to have one only for home?06:08
thomas_before unmounting06:08
Ximalahh .. need to mount to delete it ..06:08
Ximalhmm06:08
bastid_raZormurlidhar: now that i look i have a kde app that sends info to my phone06:09
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Ximalmount: can't find /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab06:09
murlidharbastid_raZor: name it06:09
thomas_Ximal: then specify a mount point06:09
thomas_!mount | Ximal06:09
ubotuXimal: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter06:09
bastid_raZormurlidhar: bluetooth OBEX object push client. that is the long name trying to find the apt-get for it06:09
markelhasmake something like partition magic does. Create a new partition them make it the default home partition06:09
joakim-ive got a problem with setting up dual monitors... the problem seems to be with gdm not being particularly fond of xinerama.. when i set up dual x servers in nvidia-settings without xinerama it works fine, but when i enable xinerama, gdm crashes06:10
joakim-same problem when ive set it up as i want it in displayconfig-gtk06:10
Ximalahh i can deal with it being there.. i have no errors as of this moment ;)06:10
Ximal1.6 gigs isn't such a big deal.. lol06:11
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bastid_raZormurlidhar: i have to go.. look for it on packages.ubuntu.com .. they'll be able to give you the apt-get name for it for installation.06:11
vmlinuz-ok darn i missed it now, bye bye my 50$ >_<06:12
joakim-anyone have any idea how to solve that?06:12
murlidhark cya bastid_raZor06:13
Ximali GIVE UP lol06:13
Ximalto tired to care06:13
Ximalabout the partition that is..06:13
Ximali hope things work out for vmlinuz : m8 goodluck06:13
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soul9murlidhar, what did you do for it to work?06:14
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murlidharoh i just added ro splash vga=77306:15
murlidharsoul9: ^06:15
murlidharinstead of splash vga=773 quiet06:15
lee__LiMaO thislinks is for you..http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html it is where I finally wound up last night06:15
soul9murlidhar, quiet should be there :-/06:16
soul9strange06:16
lee__Ihope it helps06:16
soul9okay, well, that's that06:16
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lee__Oh and yes it is still running everything fine no breaks yet06:16
flaviahi, tux racer extreme is not in the repos right? :)06:16
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murlidharsoul9: well i dunno  i removed it and it works wonderfully06:17
murlidhar:)06:18
soul9ok, cool06:18
soul9:-)06:18
lee__eh how do I regest peeps?06:18
lee__eh hold that thuaght brb06:18
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vmlinuz-what other program you guys told me that i can watch broadcast with, was it winamp?06:20
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bur[n] ervmlinuz-: what broadcast?06:23
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vmlinuz-there is a match going in the US right now and i bought an online streaming video to watch it online LIVE. its here. https://www.onthenetsports.com/viewer.asp06:24
vmlinuz-the match is running as we speak, and i can't view it with firefox/ubuntu06:24
sleepynategrr. wouldn't even boot with the radeon 9800 :D06:24
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vmlinuz-running it from IE form linux right now and i get this error06:28
kritzstapfvmlinuz-, theres an asp error06:28
vmlinuz-error '80020009'06:28
vmlinuz-/viewer.asp, line 5706:28
vmlinuz-:(06:28
kritzstapfits a serverside error06:28
vmlinuz-kritzstapf: but in windows it run06:28
vmlinuz-my friends are watching it now06:28
kritzstapfmaybe asp wasnt bad when they started to watch06:28
vmlinuz-its a linux side problem, it just worked now for my friend.. In this sec i'm with him in the phone06:31
bur[n] ervmlinuz-: that's crap.. it doesn't work here06:32
vmlinuz-:(06:32
bur[n] eri'd bet it's not a "linux" problem but moreso a "firefox" problem06:32
vmlinuz-yep06:32
bur[n] erand moreso a "shitty coders who use asp" problem :)06:32
vmlinuz-I agree06:32
vmlinuz-first match is over now06:32
vmlinuz-of the event06:32
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vmlinuz-and i missed it.. /sad06:33
murlidharvmlinuz-: which match?06:33
vmlinuz-I bought whole event tho. I hope i get it work soon.. I also emailed the billiard club network company about this06:33
RivaeAeryaGuys, it was upgrading, and then it asked me to remove packages, and then it crashed.... and now what do i do? my pc hasn't rebooted, hasn't removed those packages, and all that stuff06:33
vmlinuz-murlidhar: pool tournoment in united states. US open champion06:33
vmlinuz-9ball tournoment06:33
sleepynateanybody ever seen a "too many open files while copying /med...." error?06:33
murlidharoh ok i feel sorry that u missed the match06:34
RivaeAeryaGuys, it was upgrading, and then it asked me to remove packages, and then it crashed.... and now what do i do? my pc hasn't rebooted, hasn't removed those packages, and all that stuff06:34
murlidharRivaeAerya: that is what happens when u use ur applications while upgradation :(06:35
RivaeAeryamurlidhar: i closed all of em06:35
RivaeAeryamurlidhar: but kde was still running06:35
RivaeAeryaso how do i fix this?06:35
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murlidhar i dunno i am a noob06:36
RivaeAeryaanyone?06:36
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RivaeAeryaGuys, it was upgrading to Kubuntu Gutsy, and then it asked me to remove packages, and then it crashed.... and now what do i do? my pc hasn't rebooted, hasn't removed those packages, and all that stuff06:36
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bur[n] erRivaeAerya: first things first, get it to boot... try the recovery kernel?06:37
Hobbsee!repeat | RivaeAerya06:37
ubotuRivaeAerya: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:37
HobbseeRivaeAerya: start the upgrade again, it should continue.06:37
RivaeAeryabur[n] er: i'm chatting right now on the pc that has been almost upgraded06:37
vmlinuz-# Internet Explorer 6.0+. Please note that our movies do not work in Mozilla, Safari and other browsers.06:37
vmlinuz-thats one of their rules06:37
vmlinuz- /sigh06:37
vmlinuz-# Latest .net framework installed06:38
vmlinuz-# Latest DirectX installed06:38
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bur[n] ervmlinuz-: write an angry letter!06:38
bur[n] erRivaeAerya: what happens when you "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?06:38
vmlinuz-I did install internet explorer 6.0 tho. using wine and it gives me an error06:38
Ximalor install a virtual machine and run windows millenium on it ;)06:38
vmlinuz-virtual machine, Ximal will that take long?06:38
bur[n] erIE6 via wine doesn't do directX still06:38
Ximalwhen u run vmware/winMe then u can bootup the prog for those things06:38
bur[n] erer... s/directX/ActiveX06:39
Ximalyeah it sure will... u gotta run windows setup06:39
Ximallol06:39
RivaeAeryaPakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar06:39
RivaeAeryaPakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar06:39
RivaeAeryaBoom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd06:39
RivaeAeryaReading state information... Klaar06:39
RivaeAeryaOpwaardering wordt doorgerekend... Klaar06:39
RivaeAerya0 pakketten opgewaardeerd, 0 pakketten nieuw genstalleerd, 0 te verwijderen en 0 niet opgewaardeerd.06:39
RivaeAeryait says there's nothing to install, nothing to remove, and nothing to update06:39
Ximaldo sudo apt-get install update06:40
Ximalsee if it gives you updates then ;)06:40
RivaeAeryaXimal: yeah already did that06:40
Ximalouch06:40
Ximalwhat;s the issue i missed ? pls06:40
RivaeAeryaGuys, it was upgrading to Kubuntu Gutsy, and then it asked me to remove packages, and then it crashed.... and now what do i do? my pc hasn't rebooted, hasn't removed those packages, and all that stuff06:40
RivaeAerya(that)06:40
bur[n] ersudo apt-get autoremove06:40
Ximalok06:40
Ximalyeah.. next step is autoremove lol06:41
bur[n] erRivaeAerya: it doesn't sound like you have any problems06:41
Ximalwait.. it crashed..06:41
RivaeAeryaooh it has much to autoremove06:41
RivaeAeryashould i continue?06:41
Ximalare u cross installing bit platforms06:41
Ximalfrom 64 to 32 upgrade and vice versa ?06:41
RivaeAeryaXimal: no06:41
RivaeAeryaXimal: no06:41
Ximalhmm so ur matching cd's of 386 to 386 pentium .. etc06:41
RivaeAeryai'm upgrading via the GUI (adept)06:42
Ximalhmm06:42
HobbseeRivaeAerya: what did i tell you about repeating?06:42
Ximalcrashed as in ? went black. restarted ? killsignaled unexpectedly ?06:42
RivaeAeryaHobbsee: Ximal wanted to see what i said06:42
HobbseeRivaeAerya: no, dont autoremove everything.  install kubuntu-desktop, and go from there.06:43
RivaeAerya[18:40]  <Ximal> what;s the issue i missed ? pls06:43
RivaeAerya[18:40]  <-- RoboticTao heeft deze server verlaten. Client Quit.06:43
RivaeAerya[18:40]  <RivaeAerya> Guys, it was upgrading to Kubuntu Gutsy, and then it asked me to remove packages, and then it crashed.... and now what do i do? my pc hasn't rebooted, hasn't removed those packages, and all that stuff06:43
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RivaeAeryakubuntu-desktop is reeds de nieuwste versie.06:43
RivaeAeryaDe volgende pakketten werden automatisch genstalleerd en zijn niet langer nodig:06:43
Ximali don't understand dutche m8..06:43
RivaeAerya(kubuntu-desktop is at the newest version. The following packets are installed and no longer needed:)06:43
Ximalhmm06:44
RivaeAerya(and then a very long list of packets)06:44
Ximalare u using synaptics to install the packs ?06:44
RivaeAeryaXimal: i was using adept but then it crashed06:44
HobbseeRivaeAerya: depending on what they are, you're probably OK to remove them.06:44
HobbseeXimal: on kde?  very unlikely06:44
HobbseeXimal: besides, those are apt errors06:44
RivaeAeryaHobbsee: alright, let me explain exactly what happened06:44
Ximalim still learning too ;) i thought i'd try to understand..06:44
RivaeAeryait was installing all the upgrades, and then after a while when at 64%, it said it was done and said to me that it wanted to clean up unnecesary packages. So i clicked OK, then was when it crashed06:45
RivaeAeryait stayed on my screen for a while though06:45
Ximalriv : start again... and don't let it clean em ;)06:45
Ximalthen do it manually ?06:45
RivaeAeryaHobbsee: so how do i fix that?06:46
Hobbseeremove the empty packages, if they're OK to remove06:46
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Hobbseeer, unneeded packages, not emtpy packages06:47
Evanlecsudo apt-get autoremove06:48
RivaeAeryawell there's things like python in it, and libquicktime0, and... let me pastebin it: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/40635/06:48
nemikdoes anyone with a t61 keep getting freezing when resuming from suspend?06:48
RivaeAeryais it okay to remove that?06:48
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lee98632ok meesa back06:49
lee98632eh how do i register?06:49
RivaeAeryaHobbsee: is it okay to remove this?: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/40635/06:49
lee98632hu?06:50
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HobbseeRivaeAerya: looks fine06:50
RivaeAeryaHobbsee: k06:50
RivaeAeryaHobbsee: what do i do after that?06:50
lee98632eh any one here running KDE ?06:51
Hobbseereboot?06:51
RivaeAeryaHobbsee: (and why did it jump to 100% when it was at 64%?)06:51
Hobbsee!register | lee9863206:51
ubotulee98632: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:51
HobbseeRivaeAerya: because it had finished?  i dont know06:51
RivaeAeryaHobbsee: ok06:51
lee98632register lee9863206:52
lee98632ok06:52
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atlfalcons866how do i remove ubuntu06:53
atlfalcons866#kubuntu06:53
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lee98632eh do i include the  <your-password> or just key in? my pw?06:54
Hobbseelee98632: the latter06:54
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lee98632ok06:55
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lee98632oh cool that fixed that lol06:56
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Stopa9hi there, how can i connect to internet in kubuntu gutsy RC without using knetworkmanager (its not working right now), IP is supposed to be set on automatic (wired connection)06:56
lee98632is LiMaO here  os it just his name lol06:57
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Lerris1fyi: minor bug.  It seems disabling gdm in services actually kills gdm right then, which destroys X.06:57
LiMaOlee98632: i'm here, wassup06:57
RivaeAeryaUpgrade succeeded! How do i set all the kde theme settings to the kubuntu default? (like icons, colorscheme, widget style..)06:58
lee98632heehee i finally figured the restration thing out06:58
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RivaeAeryaanyone?06:59
RivaeAeryaHobbsee?06:59
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RivaeAeryaokay, bye Hobbsee07:00
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bur[n] ercan anyone help me set the gdm resolution?  My KDM is fine, but gdm insists on using 4:3, but when I login to gnome, it gets back to 1440x900.07:02
Lerris1my personal opinion is graphical logins are more trouble than they are worth..  using it without one only requires "startx"07:03
vmlinuz-linux need some love from companies and producters07:04
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vmlinuz-or maybe linux people need to create a directX for linux >_<07:04
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Hobbseevmlinuz-: what, opengl?07:05
Lerris1I tend to assume directX is hugely patent encumbered.07:05
Lerris1so even if you had the entire api, and could do it, it would be illegal07:05
vmlinuz-Hobbsee: didn't work for me. Can't view the broadcast i bought still. and im so upset tbh07:05
hyljewine has most of directx done07:05
Lerris1interesting07:06
Lerris1without using windows files/license?07:06
hyljeyes07:06
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_dan_tracker is using 50% cpu time all the time07:08
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_dan_is that normal?07:08
Lerris150% cpu almost sounds like one thread flat out on a 2 core system07:09
_dan_true07:09
_dan_what good is tracker for anyway?07:09
_dan_which apps use its db?07:09
Lerris1no idea, i had half assumed you were running a bit torrent tracker07:10
_dan_no07:10
_dan_its tracker which runs in background07:10
Lerris1it looks like it is scanning files to provide metadata for searching07:11
Lerris1i suspect you could kill it without bringing down anything07:11
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Lerris1Out of curiosity does anyone have Sata DVD burning running, particularly with amd64 and nforce4?07:12
_dan_yes, i amk just wondering what iit is good for, which apps use it07:13
_dan_Lerris1 i got sata dvdburner, no amd64 nor nforce07:13
Lerris1http://linux.die.net/man/1/trackerd  (found via google)07:13
Lerris1hmm..07:13
Evanlec!info tracker07:13
ubotutracker: metadata database, indexer and search tool. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 270 kB, installed size 1640 kB07:13
Evanlectrackerd is an indexing service07:13
Evanlecallows u to use that quick-search thingie on the top panel i believe07:14
Evanlecvista has a similar thing07:14
awalton__it also ties into gtk+'s file save/load dialogs07:14
awalton__it's beagle rewritten in C, or Spotlight for GNOME07:14
awalton__(basically)07:14
Lerris1similar to locates database scanning thing which bugged me enough to remove it07:15
Lerris1the important bit is probably to make it work when your not using your pc07:15
Evanlecyea07:15
Evanlecthats how it should work by default07:15
_dan_!info visual07:15
ubotuPackage visual does not exist in gutsy07:15
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Lerris1i'm betting it is my sata drivers.. since just trying to read a disk i burned with knoppix crashed the system07:16
Evanlecbut i find that windows vista is indexing my drive constantly and its extremely annoying07:16
Lerris1or some linked part like scsi, etc07:16
_dan_!info gnome-at-visual07:16
ubotuPackage gnome-at-visual does not exist in gutsy07:16
_dan_gnome-at-visual<-- wonder what that is good for07:17
_dan_gutsy autoruns it07:17
Lerris1i tried a 2.6.23 kernal i made using my previous gentoo .config, and it failed to, so maybe I'll try the same kernel version I last ran on gentoo.07:17
RivaeAeryaWhat are the default icons, colorscheme, and other artwork for Kubuntu Gutsy?07:17
Konam_dan_ I have the same question07:17
awalton___dan_: it's part of gnome's assistive technologies (ATs)07:18
_dan_can u be a bit mre specific, what does it do, why do i need it?07:19
awalton__magnifier, dasher, on-screen keyboard07:19
awalton__you can disable it safely if you're not in need of assistive tech07:19
_dan_oki thx07:20
_dan_does the nautilus use tracker database?07:20
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awalton__yes it does07:21
awalton__it uses it for search, but that's it07:21
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awalton__it's not pervasively hooked to tracker07:21
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davidwdoes this tracker thing replace 'locate' ?07:21
awalton__yes07:21
awalton__only it's better than locate, because it lets you search within files metadata07:21
Lerris1I tend to use "find * | grep keyword" | less" or such to find files07:22
Evanlechow do i call it from the command line?07:22
jamesrdornUsing 7.10 pre-release... I seem to be having troubles with xorg.conf. Seems when I create it or edit it, Xwindows fails to start, and the failsafe screen opens and will create a xorg.conf.failsafe, however the only way to get X windows to start again is to delete xorg.conf*. What's strange is if I use the screen resolution preferences, it never writes to xorg.conf Does ubuntu use an alt config file to control xwindows prefs07:22
awalton__for example, you can search for MP3s with ID3 tags in tracker.07:22
Lerris1if you start in the right base directory it isn't too bad07:22
_dan_locate is still run daily07:22
HobbseeLerris1: um...ew?07:22
_dan_so u gt both07:22
Evanlecrunning locate from cli will use the tracker db?07:22
HobbseeLerris1: what happened to grep foo * ?07:22
awalton__no07:22
awalton__locate uses its own database07:22
_dan_Evanlec i doubt it07:22
Hobbseethen less that?07:22
Lerris1that recurses07:23
Lerris1and just scans filenames07:23
Evanlecright07:23
Hobbseeit only recurses if you tell it to07:23
Lerris1find automatically recurses07:23
Evanlecso im asking how to call this new search function from command line07:23
HobbseeLerris1: oh, you're only looking for it to do the filenames.07:23
awalton__tracker-search07:23
HobbseeLerris1: grep has a -R option, for recursive.07:23
Lerris1true07:23
Lerris1different purpose though07:23
Hobbseedidnt realise it was file names only07:24
Evanlecwhat doe recursive mean exactly?07:24
awalton__it descends directories07:24
Evanlecawalton__, thx07:24
Lerris1technically that is probably a better term descends07:24
Evanlecoh, does locate do that by default?07:24
Lerris1locate uses a database07:24
Lerris1find does it manually07:24
Evanleci c07:24
jamesrdornAnyone know what file controls xwindows config in ubuntu 7.10?07:24
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Evanlechow often does locate update its db by default?07:25
Lerris1"   /etc/X11/xorg.conf  "07:25
penguin42Evanlec: Every night I think07:26
jamesrdornLerris1: that's what I thought, but my system will boot fine without it07:26
awalton__Evanlec, I honestly have no idea, but I'd assume there's a cron-job set somewhere that does it daily07:26
Lerris1i'd assume X is automagically picking defaults07:26
jamesrdornLerris1: if I use nvidia-xconfig, windows failes to start07:26
Lerris1unless ubuntu is doing something odd.  i'm new to it07:26
jamesrdornLerris1: if I use the screen resolution pref, it never writes to xorg.conf07:26
teskonew to it and you're using gutsy?07:26
jamesrdornman this is buggin me07:27
Lerris1well, perhaps that was unwise, but ah well07:27
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Lerris1i'm not new to linux though.. been using gentoo for years07:27
Evanlecyea, i'd imagine07:27
teskooh ok07:27
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borovy3488can anyone help with broken sound??07:27
teskowhat made you switch to ubuntu?07:27
Evanlecjamesrdorn, run it as root07:28
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Lerris1to be honest i haven't entirely commited to not switching back07:28
jamesrdornEvanlec: you have to, there is no way to write to it without at least using sudo07:28
Lerris1but the irritation with gentoo is the compile times when your in a hurry07:28
teskoborovy3488, got alsa running?07:28
WindowSmasherHi all.  I'm having trouble with my brightness keys on my keyboard07:28
Evanlecjamesrdorn, yea, i know i had the same issue07:28
Lerris1now that i've figured out how to manually do some things in ubuntu it will probably be fine07:28
WindowSmasherAny suggestions?07:28
borovy3488tesko: whats alsa?  My sound was working great until I deleted my old account and made a new one.07:28
Evanlec!alsa07:29
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:29
penguin42Lerris1: Rebuilding .deb's if you want to do something special is actually quite easy on Ubuntu, so if you do want something special you can do07:29
borovy3488tesko: and also, I can't even get to the users and groups or hardly anything in the admin tab07:29
Lerris1ya, i just have to resist the temptation to switch back for awhile when i hit stuff i know i could fix on gentoo07:29
Lerris1(while i learn a few things)07:29
jamesrdornwhat's strange is the screen res prefs do not write to xorg.conf, but if I go into the restricted drivers database and unselect or select my nvidia card, it gives me an error about xorg not being valid07:29
WindowSmasherScreen brightness buttons on the keyboard... anyone?07:29
teskoborovy3488, that one's over my head sorry07:30
borovy3488tesko: I can't even double click on it, it says no volume control GStreamer plugins07:30
jamesrdornWindowSmasher: what laptop do you have?07:30
WindowSmasherDell 6400/E150507:30
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|nero|hey07:30
Lerris1one nitpick i do have on gusty though is it should have more nvidia drivers to select from07:30
mc44Lerris1: more?07:31
Lerris1since not all nvidia binaries work07:31
|nero|can anyone tell how i can install gutsyRC1 over my feisty edition07:31
Lerris1well stably07:31
WindowSmasherI got lucky, my nvidia drivers work great07:31
WindowSmasherI thought they had a motherload to cchoose from now07:31
teskoborovy3488, i dont know then07:31
borovy3488can anyone help me?? I am freaking out, this is my only user and I can't do anything with them07:32
tesko|nero|, switch your apt-get sources to gutsy07:32
Evanlec|nero|, i just did it by resizing my feisty partition in the installer, that way i still have all my data, but i have a "clean" install07:32
jamesrdornWell the Nvidia drivers worked great here until I installed a new kernel07:32
|nero|and then it will install everything i need?07:32
weltallthe brightness button of my laptop are recognised automatically by ubuntu and they are set to a gnome function which manages brigthness. but as those keys are managed also in hw gnome and the computer itself are like "conflicting" there is a way to disable the hw functionality trough the linux kernel and leave only the gnome management which is better? (there is nothing in the bios)07:32
|nero|just do apt-get update?07:32
teskoit should.. am i right guys?07:32
mc44jamesrdorn: you used the drivers directly from nvidias site?07:32
Evanlecyea he can do a dist-upgrade07:32
Lerris1gentoo has 1.0.7185 .. 9639, 14 09, 14.11, 14.19 (on this older portage snapshot)07:32
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|nero|with apt-get update?07:33
|nero|and before that apt-getr upgrade07:33
jamesrdornmc44: after the new kernel jacked the built in restricted drivers07:33
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Evanlec|nero|, i think u do need to change your repositories to gutsy tho...not sure as i havent tried the upgrade method07:33
Evanlecwhile we're on topic of nvidia driver, how new is the one in restricted drivers (gutsy) ?07:34
jamesrdornnero, per ubuntu's site "sudo update-manager -d"07:34
teskoborovy3488, try running alsa as root, you can do this from console, or getting an alsa gui07:34
jamesrdornthen click on install for new distrobution07:34
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Lerris1100.14.1907:34
borovy3488ok07:34
EvanlecLerris1, is that the newest one?07:35
Lerris1i think so07:35
Evanlecsounds like it07:35
jamesrdornmaybe if I just reinstall the restricted nvidia driver, things will be peachy07:35
teskohave you read the manual page for alsa borovy3488 ?07:35
Lerris1it is not 100% stable on my system, but not too bad either07:35
|nero|ahh nice thx07:35
borovy3488i'm on it right now tesko07:35
teskoi've only had one problem on my gutsy install, pidgin froze on me. no big deal though07:36
Lerris1i may go back to a kernel i can get 1.0-8776 to run.  that was rock solid07:36
|nero|jamesdorn: does it change therepositories automatically?07:36
jamesrdornnero, yes it does07:36
|nero|kelw07:36
EvanlecLerris1, you're using a vanilla custom kernel?07:36
|nero|wow 980 packages have to be updated07:37
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jamesrdornnero, it's going to take you a few hours07:37
Lerris1well i tried 2.6.23 to solve the sata burning issue, but it didn't07:37
Evanlec|nero|, about 600mb on average...07:37
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|nero|i have seen it07:37
teskoyep nero, thems the breaks, lets hope this way works07:37
Lerris1atm i'm running the ubuntu one, for lack of a reason not to07:37
|nero|dl with 600k07:37
Evanlecnot likely to get full speed right now, gutsy repos getting hammered07:38
nanuksomeone who knows how to fix the fbconsole bug07:38
teskoi tried updating to gutsy manually a week or two ago and it messed my system up07:38
EvanlecLerris1, same here07:38
seanhAny way to stop gutsy from dimming my laptop screen after a few second inactivity? I've turned it off in the Power Management prefs but it still does it. It seems to be compiz (doesn't happen with metacity) but I don't find any compiz option for it, even in the advanced compiz settings. Thanks07:38
|nero|i will chang my sstem to gutsy after the finale is released sp i can test it now07:38
Lerris1it looks like i was using 2.6.20.6 in gentoo last07:38
Lerris1(yea for backing up your previous installation ;)07:38
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jamesrdornseanh: check your laptops bios for power management settings07:39
WindowSmasherIf anyone comes up with anything, while I'm still searching, as to why my brightness keys don't work, please pm me07:40
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jamesrdorndangit, I am going to figure this out, I swear07:40
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RivaeAeryaHow do i set the KDE artwork back to normal (the Kubuntu defaults) without deleting all my settings that i still need?07:41
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BlueParrothi all, I'm trying to use xfce and the gnumeric help option gives me an error saying ghelp:gnumeric is an invalid URL, but I can find the manual if I do a search in gnome-help, do I miss a package or something ?07:44
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seanhjamesrdorn -- I'll take a look next time I boot. I don't think that's it though, cause the dimming only happens when compiz is on, and didn't happen at all in feisty07:48
Evanlecwhats the apt-get cmd to get the compiz-fusion settings manager thing?07:49
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Ominousis there a guide on xgl and gusty?07:50
vbgunzhow do I learn about the compiz effects available to me in gutsy?07:51
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vbgunzI really like the scale plugin and with all effects enabled, I do not know how to access it. is there something I can read about the effects in gutsy?07:51
bur[n] ervbgunz: run ccsm07:52
MarcNon Gutsy, I'm starting f-spot and seeing messages "Starting new FSpot server\nCan't get a connection to the dbus. Trying again..." over and over and no window starting up.  Ideas?07:53
MarcNf-spot has been working fine until recently.07:53
Ominousis there a guide on how to install xgl on gusty?07:53
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bur[n] ervbgunz: if you don't have it... apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager07:54
=== bur[n] er wishes f-spot would get filesystem monitoring support...
vbgunzbur[n] er: thank you, I don't have it, i will try and get it07:55
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vbgunzbur[n] er: ok downloading.... curious, why does this thing not ship by default?07:57
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borovy3488OK, so I think that my only user is not an admin user07:57
borovy3488how do I fix this??07:57
bur[n] ervbgunz: got me... simplicity's sake?  i dunno... i'm not a release manager of any sorts, just a user like you07:58
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nanukhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/12991007:58
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129910 in initramfs-tools "tty[1-6]  are active but display nothing in Gutsy" [Critical,Triaged] 07:58
nanukwill you get this fixed07:58
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vbgunzbur[n] er: I don't think the app is what I am after... what I mean is, how do I figure out the shortcuts, keys to press, where to mouse click, to actually work in some effect? I don't see a manual and though I have effects for some simple everyday things, they're not enhancing my experience like i believe they should... how do I use it, thats my question?08:00
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borovy3488does anyone know how to create a new account that is admin, if there is no admin user?08:00
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vbgunzI remember the scale plugin from a long time ago, I believe in dapper or edgy, that was a great plugin.08:01
SDugasDoes anyone know why when I "Enable Desktop Effects" I lose window decoration, I tried installing emerald after and still no luck08:01
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nanuksudo su08:02
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hetauma!mouse08:02
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto08:02
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RivaeAeryawhat's the default iconset of Kubuntu Gutsy?08:03
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cyclonuthas anyone had any experience with the crappiness of network-manager in gutsy?08:05
bur[n] ernope08:06
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cyclonuthumm08:06
bur[n] erRivaeAerya: crystal08:06
BlueParrothmmm08:06
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RivaeAeryabur[n] er: which one?08:07
RivaeAeryabur[n] er: don't you like Crystal Project either?08:07
cyclonutif I try to change AP's, it craps out. if I standby and come back, it craps out08:07
bur[n] eruhh... there's more than one crystal icon theme?08:07
cyclonutbasically, it doesnt work.08:07
RivaeAeryabur[n] er: www.kde-look.org and then icons08:07
RivaeAeryathen sort by rating08:07
BlueParrothmmm08:07
BlueParrotok, basically, the help for gnumeric is broken08:08
BlueParroton Xubuntu , Gutsy08:08
BlueParrotI've installed gnumeric-doc and yelp can view the manual fine, but trying to start it by using the help menu in gnumeric it complains about "ghelp:gnumeric" being an invalid url08:09
bur[n] erRivaeAerya: there is one "official" crystal08:09
RivaeAeryabur[n] er: nope, they're all by the same maker08:09
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vbgunzthats wild. I have no idea how to use compiz... basically, I can use it when I move, minimize and maximize a window, but have no idea how to really use it. why in the world no docs ship with gtusy explaining how to use compiz?08:10
BlueParrotvbgunz: a) still in beta, b) there probably is a package if you just install it, try compiz-doc or something like that08:13
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SDugascompiz doesn't load window decoration (min,max,close,etc.) for me :/ I can't seem to fix it.08:13
vbgunzapps should not ship without docs :/08:13
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BlueParrotSDugas: windows decorations are drawn by emerald, iirc08:14
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SDugasI had to install Emerald, but still no luck08:14
san|is there a way to getr higher resolutions with the open source ati drivers then 1024x786?08:14
BlueParrothmm, is it running as well ?08:14
san|768 even08:14
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BlueParrotSDugas: try running emerald in a terminal and see what error you get08:15
SDugas Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"08:15
BlueParrotoooh, fun08:15
BlueParrotno clue how to fix it I'm afraid08:16
SDugas:/08:16
SDugasnuts08:16
nanukanyone who knows how to fis this08:16
nanukhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/12991008:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129910 in initramfs-tools "tty[1-6]  are active but display nothing in Gutsy" [Critical,Triaged] 08:16
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BlueParrotngggnnnn, help system depends on firefox ...08:18
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vbgunzhmmm, thanks to ccsm, when something is enabled, it has an actions tab that shows the binding to the effect08:18
FOADHey.08:19
FOAD"Thanks" to Gutsy, I now have to run an older kernel than the most recent one, but that means the nvidia driver is out of wack.  How can I get nvidia driver that works with the kernel I have to use?08:19
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nanukwww.nvidia.com08:21
nanuk;)08:21
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BlueParrotFOAD, I don't knwo exactly what is wrong for you, but you could try to compile a driver from source ... of course, NVIDIA proprietary drivers can be a bit dodgy, and Gutsy is still in beta, so no guarantees it will work ...08:21
nanukhi parrot08:22
nanuki need a fbconsole08:22
BlueParrotnanuk: an fbwhatsthatnow ?08:23
nanukto compile the nvidia drivers08:23
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FOADBlueParrot: what is wrong for me is that the kernel from Gutsy keeps spewing Bad block number requested messages at me and won't get to X.08:23
nanukstrg alt f1 console08:23
FOADI'm not a big fan of compiling stuff from source and all that, guess I'll use nv for now.08:23
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nanukits you a blank screen08:23
nanukok08:24
nanukso i wait the 4 days08:24
nanuk;)08:24
BlueParrotuhm, I should probably point out I'm not a developer or anything...08:24
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BlueParrotAnd I have no clue what you ar etalking about :P08:24
stefgnanik, taht's a known bug... gutsy kernel breaks tty's in nonstandard resos08:24
nanukif i want to get on the strg f1 console08:25
nanukok08:25
nanukwill it get fixed08:25
stefgnanuk: boot without framebuffer (vga=XXX),  fbcon is broken08:25
nanukso i can use the nvidia driver08:26
stefgnanuk: doesn't seem like it yet08:26
nanukif i boot without it the nvidia driver works???08:27
stefghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/12991008:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129910 in initramfs-tools "tty[1-6]  are active but display nothing in Gutsy" [Critical,Triaged] 08:27
nanukyes i know08:27
nanukso no work around08:27
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stefgnanuk: restricted manager conflicts with self compiled nvidia driver. use nvidia-glx-(new)08:29
FOADAnyhow, this bulletproof X seems to work, but where does it keep its settings?  Apparently not in xorg.conf?  So 1) can I make X try and listen to xorg.conf again and 2) where does bulletproof put its stuff?08:29
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nanukfirst frame buffer mess off08:30
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nanukthen i take nvidia-glx-new drivers08:30
nanukk08:31
kartpusher05hey all.... i was wondering if there is a way to change my default file browser in GNOME. I downloaded dolphin so i could have a thumbnail view for file uploads08:31
silentI like how gutsy doesnt remind you billions of times that you're running proprietary drivers08:31
silentno glaring pci card in the corner of the screen08:31
FOADI like how Gutsy doesn't work for me --- no wait I don't.08:32
silentFOAD, ouch08:32
gunashekarhmm maybe the card will appear in the release08:32
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silentgunashekar, hope not... I do hope they patch my kernel source bug by then though08:32
silentsound would be super08:32
FOADYes, I am very disappointed.08:32
gunashekaryea sound is a problem indeed08:33