[12:33] well, rebooted on the new kernel and installed the new headers package generated during kernel rebuilding and this time update manager saying there is 1 package broken [12:34] slangasek: Thanks a lot. [12:34] so i have removed the headers package i have generated the same time i have rebuilded the kernel and compiled module with probably old headers ... [12:34] mjg59 : does it make sense to you ? [12:35] Yes [12:36] mjg59 : so if i understand properly i have just to reinstall the headers packages generated the same time i rebuilded the kernel, the recompile l-u-m again this one ? true ? [12:36] Yes [12:37] thanks, i immediatly give it a try, compiling, dpkg -i the new package, rebooting and come back here to thank you :-) [12:39] mjg59 : btw how do you clean the already made compilation of l-u-m ? [12:40] fakeroot debian/rules clean [12:40] mjg59 : thanks [12:42] n8 === contrast83 [n=mike@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:52] mjg59 : well, recompiled l-u-m against new headers, dpkg -i the new modules, now it's time to reboot, stay tuned i come back ... === dsas [n=dean@ubuntu/member/dsas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] Hmm, interesting. I see my ubuntustudio uploads were accepted, one closing the bug, but I haven't received anything from Soyuz, so far as I've seen... === TheMuso checks again [01:17] And nothing on gutsy changes either... === Creteil [n=bigbob@dyn-83-156-178-181.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:17] Ah well. [01:17] mjg59 : always up ? [01:18] TheMuso: Hobbsee was accepting via the LP web ui and there's a bug where stuff accepted via there webui forgets to get sent to changes. [01:18] ScottK: Ok thanks. 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[09:35] yeah, some of us [09:37] janimo: ^ [09:37] Hobbsee: I read your mail to devel [09:38] I'd like an upload approved [09:38] janimo: right [09:38] oh, i see what i've written. i can still ask others to approve, etc. [09:39] (which i didnt stick in the mail. damn) === luca [n=luca@host111-187-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:40] hi everyone === globra [n=anton@ppp91-76-108-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:41] I would like to add a hack into knetworkmanager but I do not have any programming competence whatsoever...can someone help me or tell me where to go for starting? :) [09:41] Hobbsee: so I'd like xubuntu-default-settings which I uploaded last night to get approved [09:41] thanks [09:42] slangasek: if you're still around...please ^ [09:43] accepted [09:43] thanks Mithrandir [09:51] luca: generally you'll need the source code (easy: apt-get source knetworkmanager) and some help and guidance (start at #kubuntu, and look around for Qt, KDE and NetworkManager related programming resources and IRC channels) [09:53] sladen thanks [09:54] I would like to add a simple hack - after suspension the program should switch to "offline mode" and then again to "online mode" - there is a known bug which makes the applet not detectin the wireless networks around otherwise [09:54] (it's knetworkmanager only - wlassistant functions after suspension without glitches) [09:56] sladen where would apt-get source put the source package? [09:56] current directory === globra [n=anton@ppp91-76-108-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:00] Hobbsee thanks [10:00] now I just have to understand how to hack it :P === xerakko [n=xerakko@debian/developer/xerakko] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:07] can someone point me to some good online qt resources please? [10:08] luca: this channel is for development of Ubuntu, not development on Ubuntu. [10:09] ok sorry :) a good channel then would be what? I am asking here because both in #kubuntu and in #kde I am not recieving answers [10:13] hi luca [10:13] hi [10:14] oh, luca's a common name in italy i guess. i know Debian developer with the same first name [10:16] yep it is === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:17] i really dont know where qt developers lurk though. #qt maybe? [10:17] maybe [10:17] tryin in ubuntu-motu now [10:17] I'll try #qt thanks though :D [10:18] #kde-devel would be a decnt idea [10:18] no, not #ubuntu-motu [10:19] thanks :) === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alleeHol [n=ach@dialin-212-144-129-233.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-222-139.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] am I cracked or did we back away from shipping Gnash by default? [10:36] hope not [10:36] doesn't appear to be installed on my machine === pochu [n=emilio@24.Red-88-11-170.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:39] it was in the release notes [10:39] it was, which is so odd === rulus [n=margot@210.78-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:43] I don't think my beta install has gnash installed by default either. [10:44] I also don't remember reading "gnash installed by default" in release notes. [10:44] only mozilla-plugin-gnash depends on gnash, and it doesn't appear to have any reverse dependencies excepting education-standalone [10:44] but that was the plan, I thought [10:45] I think it's better not installed by default. === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:49] meh [10:50] has anybody noticed deskbar applet crashing and hanging a lot? [10:50] Burgundavia: it's not a case of whether anyone else has noticed. If *you* have experienced deskbar crashing and hanging then that is a bug and needs filing [10:51] well, I have seen a lot of general instability === mbiebl [n=michael@p4FD2E92B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:52] "general instablity" is about as hard as "general FUD" to fix [10:52] yes, I know that [10:52] hence why I haven't filed a bug yet === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:55] ugh, how do I run gdb on an applet? [10:57] Burgundavia: look for the process, and attach it [10:57] gdb --pid=number [10:58] got it === shiyee [n=Shiyee@0x50a16837.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:01] typical. Just when I get the dbgsym package installs, I cannot replicate the crash === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:09] pitti, ! [11:09] hi [11:09] hey ogra [11:09] hey pitti [11:10] pitti, i'm doing the last fine tuning on g-p-m settings ... there is an option to lock the gnome keyring after suspend/hibernate (we already lock the screen) should that be on or off ? [11:10] s/after/before/ [11:11] (its a new option) === k0001 [n=k@host242.190-31-24.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:11] Morning pitti [11:11] hello people =) [11:11] hi StevenK [11:12] i have a little problems, and i'd like to know how can i help you [11:12] ogra: what's the upstream default? [11:12] upstream default is to use screensaver settings for all locking [11:13] we dont do that, which means i have four more fine grained options to set [11:13] that makes some sense [11:13] i dont think g-s-s does any geyring locking [11:13] *keyring :) [11:15] my nautilus keep dying randomly (sometimes after 5 minutes, sometimes after 1 hour) when browsing a ssh remote server, and i have to manually `pkill nautilus` so that it gets fully functional again, how can i help with this? (using up-to-date ubuntu gutsy (gnome 2.20)) === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl5400C447.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:15] k0001, file a bug [11:15] meh, palmer is dead [11:15] or comment on an existing one if someone already had the same prob [11:16] pitti: I am running into a nasty bug with deskbar, apparently seen by others by so far impossible to trace source: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deskbar-applet/+bug/150559 [11:16] Launchpad bug 150559 in deskbar-applet "[gutsy] deskbar applet locks up during first search after startup" [Medium,Incomplete] [11:16] ogra, and what useful information could i provide (for debugging or whatever ) [11:16] ? [11:16] the people getting the bugmail for nautilus will tell you :) [11:16] ok ogra , thanks =) [11:16] there are some wiki pages about debugging program crashes as well with some hints :) [11:16] k0001: You'll probably get better answers to questions about correct information for a bug in #ubuntu-bugs. [11:17] oh, thanks persia , i'll ask there then [11:17] keep the good work =) [11:17] about the start hammering away at the reason, but I wonder if I can find the cause, how do I tag it for a release manager to look at? === Nicke [n=niclasa@h161n2fls31o808.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:18] Hi, my pc boots incredibly slow except when I press ctrl+alt+f1 upon boot. Can this be a usplash bug (usplash doesn't work either)? Both problems occur on the RC, beta worked fine. === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] does anyone else have suid warnings fron gtk in his ~/.xsession-errors ? === ogra wonders where they come from [11:23] ogra: I've :) [11:23] http://pastebin.com/d7fe6f5b3 === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:35] ogra: http://pastebin.com/d7fe6f5b3 === mbiebl_ [n=michael@p4FD2D975.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:38] Kmos, thanks === ogra thought it was xgl related ... but apparently you dont have xgl or compiz running there [11:38] ogra: nop.. only metacity =) my video card doesn't support compiz [11:38] looks like something that even starts before the gdm session [11:38] exactly [11:39] because the process isn't running anymore === Zdra [n=zdra@91.177.29.26] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:39] there is a way to see what process was in a PID ? [11:40] kmos 4838 0.0 0.6 26760 6960 ? Ssl 10:15 0:00 x-session-manager [11:40] root 4940 0.0 0.4 6288 4364 ? S 10:15 0:00 ddclient - sleeping for 140 seconds [11:40] i've only that, it's somethingin the middle [11:40] *something [11:41] another thing [11:41] Oct 14 10:32:29 kmos ntpd_initres[5562] : ntpd returns a permission denied error! [11:41] at syslog [11:41] hmm [11:42] check if you've the same [11:42] well, even then, how should htpd use gtk ? [11:42] its gtk thats complaining [11:42] *ntpd [11:42] it's another error [11:42] not related to gtk [11:43] i dont run ntpd anyway [11:43] i need to check LP [11:43] Oct 14 11:30:55 laptop ntpdate[5981] : step time server 91.189.94.145 offset -6.676236 sec [11:43] Oct 14 11:33:29 laptop ntpdate[6234] : adjust time server 91.189.94.145 offset -0.006585 sec [11:43] it's nice [11:43] ntpdate works fine here though [11:44] (its executed automatically on ifup if you dont have ntpd installed) === unggnu [n=unggnu@unaffiliated/unggnu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:46] hi all [11:46] Does it make sense to mark all the i810 driver resolution and external monitor bugs as a duplicate of this one bug #13514 [11:46] Launchpad bug 13514 in linux-source-2.6.15 "No keyboard with 2.6.10-4-386-SMP (Hoary)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13514 [11:47] ups sorry, wrong bug [11:47] bug #135141 [11:47] Launchpad bug 135141 in xorg "Gutsy: Intel should be preferred over 810" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135141 === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:00] so, its apparently the capp to gdmflexiserver in /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default thats causing the setuid warning [12:00] *call === _nand_ [n=ec4@138.202-128-194.unknown.qala.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:01] which is weird, since gdmflexiserver actually isnt suid === dmk [n=dmk___@host81-156-131-121.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xi__ [n=xi@echo472.server4you.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dmk [n=dmk___@host81-156-131-121.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === unggnu [n=unggnu@unaffiliated/unggnu] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:06] ogra: that's strange.. === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:09] Kmos, Bug #152577 [12:09] Launchpad bug 152577 in gdm "call to gdmflexiserver in /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default causes gtk setuid warning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152577 === cintrov [n=cintrov@echo472.server4you.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gouchi [n=gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kopfgeldjaeger [n=nicolai@p54AD7836.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === luk__ is now known as luk_ === defcon [n=ion@75-171-10-194.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] ogra: nice [12:22] feel free to confirm if you can reproduce === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:23] ogra: i set it also to medium === bigon [n=bigon@ubuntu/member/bigon] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:26] /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40guidance-displayconfig_restore: 11: /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore: not found [12:26] this isn't a problem os displaygtk-config ? [12:26] *of [12:26] Kmos, so can you confirm it goes away if you comment the two commands ? [12:26] (you didnt say that in the bug comment) [12:27] ogra: i need to restart X, i'll do it later === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:28] kmos@bash:~$ dpkg -l /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore [12:28] No packages found matching /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore. [12:29] its in displayconfig-gtk (which you probably dont have installed) === DrPepperKid [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:30] the problem is that i've it installed [12:30] :) [12:30] displayconfig-gtk is already the newest version. [12:31] Kmos: -S [12:31] kmos@bash:~$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore [12:31] dpkg: /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore not found. [12:31] ok === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:31] Anyway, it's an issue with guidance-backends [12:31] Probably harmless [12:32] its from kde-guidance :P [12:32] (/usr/bin/displayconfig-restore) [12:32] well, it could need a 2>/dev/null or so to be quiet [12:32] in the session script [12:33] mjg59, since i have you here, any opinion on locking gnome-keyring during hibernate/suspend ? g-p-m offers that now [12:34] I have no opinion on it [12:34] I suspect that changing it now would be too late [12:35] well, changes can go in until tomorrow ... and its a trivial gconf default key change [12:36] But we have no idea how it interacts with the user experience [12:36] i need to turn off locking on blank by default anyway (apparently thats an upstream default now and g-p-m sees brightness changes as screen blanking) [12:36] well, it will pop up a gnome-keyring PW dialog directly after you unlocked the screen after suspend/hibernate [12:37] i think we should disable it since we already go with the locking by default [12:37] I think it's too late to change it [12:37] ok [12:37] hey [12:37] I have a little trouble [12:38] it seems that nvidia-glx depends on i386 kernel on Gutsy [12:38] then i'll only set the /apps/gnome-power-manager/lock/blank_screen key to false ... [12:38] Dekans|screen: No it doesn't [12:38] et restricted-manager(-kde) requires the i386 kernel too [12:39] yesterday it was the case [12:39] No it wasn't [12:39] uh, no it doesnt. [12:40] it depends on nvidia-kernel-1.0.9639 [12:40] which is provided by any of the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14- packages [12:41] I couldn't launch restricted-manager, because of my kernel [12:42] and when i installed nvidia-glx, i had i386 kernel installed [12:42] and no 3D acceleration on i686 kernel [12:44] look : [12:44] ~$ install nvidia-glx [12:44] Les NOUVEAUX paquets suivants seront installs: [12:44] linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386 nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common [12:45] try that: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux" === dmk [n=dmk___@host81-156-131-121.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [12:46] Les NOUVEAUX paquets suivants seront installs: [12:46] linux linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 linux-restricted-modules linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic [12:46] nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common [12:46] the same :/ [12:47] no, it installes the right modules (-generic flavor) alongside [12:48] yes but the -386 shouldn't be installed [12:48] sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ rdepends linux-restricted-modules-386 [12:48] linux-restricted-modules-386 [12:48] Reverse Depends: [12:48] restricted-manager-core [12:48] linux-386 [12:48] ...interesting? [12:48] mjg59, i noticed matthiaz had the ssame prob with the apparmor modules ... if linux and l-r-m isnt installed they somehow pick -386 as their first option [12:48] okay [12:49] so l-r-m must be installed first [12:49] restricted-manager-core --> Recommends: linux-restricted-modules-generic | linux-restricted-modules-386 [12:49] Hobbsee, thas fine [12:49] ogra: ah yes, just found that. [12:50] ogra: are linux and l-r-m virtual packages, or actual packages? [12:50] dont get tricked by the rdepends option (ask colin how often he corrected me on that :P ) [12:50] oh, i was still getting back to that bit :) [12:50] linux-restricted-modules-generic/-386 are virtual, yes [12:51] linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-* arent ... [12:51] i test it [12:51] Dekans|screen, just uninstall linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386 afterwards [12:53] Dekans|screen: i cant reproduce this - using a -generic kernel, and isntalling nvidia-glx [12:53] Dekans|screen: what version of nvidia-glx? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:54] Hobbsee, but you have the linux package installed i suspect [12:55] (before even trying) [12:55] ogra: nope. [12:55] oh [12:55] intresting [12:58] Hobbsee: 9639 [12:58] ? [12:58] without -386 packages X server doesn't run [12:59] Hobbsee: nvidia-glx is the 9639 version of nvidia driver [12:59] thats the recent one [12:59] Dekans|screen, the complete version sting would be more helpful though [12:59] yes sure :p [01:00] dpkg -l nvidia-glx [01:00] 1/1.0.9639+2.6.22.4-14.8 [01:00] 1:1.0.9639+2.6.22.4-14.8 [01:00] yeah thats current [01:01] it's what i said [01:01] no 3D acceleration on generic kernel [01:01] :( [01:02] i don't wanna install the 386 one [01:02] so there is a real dependency problem [01:02] so you have a system with plain -generic now ? no -386 bits there ? [01:03] (but l-r-m-generic installed) [01:03] no -386 [01:03] and l-r-m installed [01:03] all -generic [01:03] and nvidia-glx installed succesfully [01:03] but X server doesn't load [01:04] and if you reboot to -generic it doesnt work ?? === Marcus_ [n=Marcus@d90-128-67-204.cust.tele2.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:04] i am on -generic [01:04] i have jsute the -generic kernel [01:04] and I just rebooted === illovae [n=illovae@82.252.45.86] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:19] hi [01:21] hiya === Yvonne [n=Yvonne@pdpc/supporter/active/Yvonne] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:33] hmm [01:33] ogra@laptop:~$ uname -a [01:33] Linux laptop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Wed Oct 10 06:00:47 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux [01:33] ogra@laptop:~$ LANG=C sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx [01:33] Reading package lists... Done [01:33] Building dependency tree [01:33] Reading state information... Done [01:33] The following extra packages will be installed: [01:33] linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386 nvidia-kernel-common [01:33] seems i can reproduce that ... [01:34] especially odd is: [01:34] ogra@laptop:~$ LANG=C sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux [01:34] Reading package lists... Done [01:34] Building dependency tree [01:34] Reading state information... Done [01:34] The following extra packages will be installed: [01:34] linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 linux-restricted-modules linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic [01:34] linux-restricted-modules-generic nvidia-kernel-common [01:35] though ... [01:35] ogra@laptop:~$ LANG=C sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic [01:35] Reading package lists... Done [01:35] Building dependency tree [01:35] Reading state information... Done [01:35] The following extra packages will be installed: [01:35] linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386 nvidia-kernel-common [01:35] seems fine [01:35] err [01:35] fine ? [01:35] no, i'm blind [01:37] but i you install l-r-m -generic [01:37] nvidia-glx no requires -386 pacakges for installation [01:37] no, it doesnt [01:38] as several people told you now [01:38] but it's still unusable on -generic kernel :/ [01:38] it depends on nvidia-kernel-1.0.9639 (which is provided by all l-r-m packages) [01:39] but it doesn't work === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:39] ogra: oh, well there's the bug then. === bish0p [n=bishop@modzer0.gi.alaska.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:39] Hobbsee, where ? i dont see it yet [01:39] ogra: if it depends on a provided package, it'll pick the first lot of all of them, rather than the one that might be correct. [01:39] sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ search nvidia-kernel-1.0.9639 [01:39] linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386 - Non-free Linux 2.6.22 modules on 386 [01:39] linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic - Non-free Linux 2.6.22 modules on x86/x86_64 [01:39] linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-rt - Non-free Linux 2.6.22 modules on Realtime kernel [01:39] linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-xen - Non-free Linux 2.6.22 modules on Xen [01:39] all i see is that the wrong deps are picked [01:40] exactly - and they are, because it depends on something provided by multiple packages [01:40] Do you have linux-generic installed? [01:40] apt isnt smart enough to figure out *which* of the ones it's provided by it should take, so takes the first. [01:40] Hobbsee, yeah, but if i: LANG=C sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux ... with linux-generic installed it shouldnt pick -386 [01:41] it's not only a dependency problem [01:41] How are you managing to not have l-r-m installed if you have linux-generic installed? [01:41] oh, wait i have linux-image-generic, not plain -geneic [01:41] Right. You're doing it wrong. [01:41] ogra@laptop:~$ LANG=C sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic [01:41] Reading package lists... Done [01:41] Building dependency tree [01:41] Reading state information... Done [01:41] The following extra packages will be installed: [01:41] linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic nvidia-kernel-common [01:41] doesnt chaneg it [01:41] *change [01:42] If linux-generic is installed, is it happy? If not, there's an issue with the l-r-m generic package. [01:42] you mean if its there before installing nvidia-glx ? [01:42] Yes [01:43] well, that automatically pulls in l-r-m anyway === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:43] mine seems to behave properly - i cant reproduce the bug at all [01:43] but i've seen the similar thing with apt, where it picks the wrong language. [01:43] the thing is that nvixia-glx seems to insist to install -386 in case there is no l-r-m-generic [01:43] mjg59: with l-r-m generic already installed, nividia-glx doesn't require -386, but the driver doesn't works [01:43] and i noticed the same prob with apparmor-modules [01:43] -s [01:44] I'm not sure how that can be worked around... [01:44] You can't specify conditional dependencies like that. [01:44] specifying linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic or linux-restricted-modules-generic should fulfill the dep and not make it want to install -386 [01:45] looks like a package system bug to me [01:45] Fujitsu, well, i dont package either of them :) i just stumbled across the same prob twice which made me look into it === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:46] (i dont have any nvidia HW here :) ) [01:46] I have a nvidia Geforce 4 mx [01:46] and nvidia-glx driver desn't work [01:46] ogra: nice use of uname -r if you can do it would be a good way to solve the bug. [01:46] even once installed succesfully [01:47] Hobbsee, dynamically in a dependency ? [01:47] do you read me ? [01:47] ogra: yeah. but i dont know if it's possible, i've not tried it [01:47] the only thing i see that working would be a postinst script or so ... seems very hackish [01:47] Hobbsee: that's certainly not possible. [01:47] Dekans|screen: that's then a different issue, and we dont tend to be the X people. === lamego [n=Future@89.152.209.8] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:48] Mithrandir: fair enough. [01:48] it was certainly there with the (if you can do it) - because i wasnt sure it was possible. [01:48] Dekans|screen, i'm mainly intrested in the dependency thing sorry, no X help here [01:48] ogra: it probably works if you do apt-get install linux-generic nvidia-glx? [01:48] Mithrandir, nope [01:48] maybe the dependencies are due to this problem .... [01:49] ogra@laptop:~$ LANG=C sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic [01:49] Reading package lists... Done [01:49] Building dependency tree [01:49] Reading state information... Done [01:49] The following extra packages will be installed: [01:49] linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic nvidia-kernel-common [01:49] Suggested packages: [01:49] Mithrandir, ^^^^ === clyons [n=clyons@unaffiliated/clyons] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:49] Dekans|screen: No. If you have linux-generic installed (which you should do) there are no dependency issues. [01:49] and no, there is no -386 package anywhere on my system ... neither a half installed one or so [01:49] mjg59: yes :/ [01:50] So any problems you may have with it not working are unrelated to dependencies [01:53] the package itself is buggy [01:55] this bug is already on launchpad [01:56] but not the dependency issue [01:56] that seems to affect more than only nvidia-glx [01:57] ogra: the mashed deps? [01:57] yeah === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.103.55] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:58] ogra: yeah, there was a bug about it about sword always being in arabic by default. [01:59] bug 148586 [01:59] Launchpad bug 148586 in apparmor "Depends on linux-ubuntu-modules-386" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148586 [01:59] same issue it seems [01:59] or maybe it was bibletime [01:59] yup, found it. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bibletime/+bug/72116 [01:59] Launchpad bug 72116 in bibletime "Bibletime installation defaults in Arabic" [Undecided,Fix released] [02:00] thats edgy ? [02:00] likely. it probably was that long ago [02:01] i fixed that in feisty, but didnt fix the underlying problem in apt. === ogra somehow misses the relation to l-r-m [02:01] oh, ah [02:01] ok [02:01] now you see? [02:01] i should read the bug forst :) [02:01] *firts [02:01] bah [02:02]