[01:19] <MythbuntuGuest14> what does that mean?
[01:19] <MythbuntuGuest14> what you mean proprietary stuff
[01:19] <tgm4883> libdvdcss2
[01:20] <tgm4883> therethinker, do you remember where the control centre is from the frontend
[01:20] <therethinker> System
[01:20] <therethinker> Admin
[01:20] <tgm4883> i'd look, but the LSU kentucky game just went to OT
[01:20] <therethinker> Good...for... you?
[01:20] <tgm4883> no, from inside the frontend
[01:20] <MythbuntuGuest14> cool
[01:20] <therethinker> Oh, I didn't know  it was IN the frontend
[01:20] <MythbuntuGuest14> i need to be watching that. i am watchin ou game
[01:20] <tgm4883> yep
[01:21] <tgm4883> Go Missiou
[01:21] <MythbuntuGuest14> ou just intercepted
[01:21] <tgm4883> :(
[01:21] <tgm4883> anyway, i think in the frontend it is at
[01:22] <tgm4883> Settings > General Settings > Mythbuntu
[01:22] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok then just type libdvdcss2?
[01:23] <tgm4883> no, then click on Proprietary codecs
[01:23] <tgm4883> then enable libdvdcss2
[01:25] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok i have a check box for enable prop codec support but the boxes below are greyed out
[01:25] <tgm4883> did you click enable medibuntu?
[01:25] <MythbuntuGuest14> umm hold on it is doing something
[01:26] <MythbuntuGuest14> downloading packages
[01:26] <tgm4883> good
[01:26] <MythbuntuGuest14> uk about to scoore
[01:28] <MythbuntuGuest14> uk scoressssssssssssssssssss
[01:29] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok now i have the options
[01:30] <MythbuntuGuest14> ffmpeg is checked
[01:30] <MythbuntuGuest14> do i check the other 2
[01:30] <tgm4883> ok, now you should be able to install libdvdcss2
[01:30] <MythbuntuGuest14> w32codecs also?
[01:30] <tgm4883> if you want, but it shouldn't be needed for dvd playback
[01:30] <tgm4883> for divx, xvid, etc probably
[01:31] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok
[01:31] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok it is installing packages
[01:32] <tgm4883> k
[01:46] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok, that installed easy. i am now installing w32codecs
[01:46] <tgm4883> you could have installed both at the same time
[01:48] <MythbuntuGuest14> i have a orange star should i install updates from here?
[01:49] <MythbuntuGuest14> or do i have to quit?
[01:51] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok i am installing updates from here
[01:52] <MythbuntuGuest14> i am hoping this also corrects my 7 wired connection icons
[01:52] <tgm4883> i think theres another fix for that.  You're not getting any more are you?
[01:53] <MythbuntuGuest14> not sure. i will check. after i reboot
[01:55] <katie-> hey, simple question, whats the best way to reinstall mythbuntu?  booting from the install disc, "install" and "start mythbuntu" are the same option, how can I start the installer instead of booting from the (broken) installation?
[01:55] <tgm4883> katie-, is your computer set to boot from CD first?
[01:56] <katie-> well, it isn't but it can be, I just go to the boot menu and tell it to load the cd
[01:56] <tgm4883> ok
[01:57] <tgm4883> well if you tell it to boot from cd, then just install it like you did the first time right over the existing installation
[01:57] <tgm4883> just make sure you tell it to format the partition
[01:57] <katie-> i guess the issue is the installer assumes that if you have mythtv, of course you'd rather boot from it and not install it again, but i accidentally killed something during installation, so it doesn't work right
[01:57] <katie-> the option on the menu is "Install or Start mythbuntu"
[01:58] <tgm4883> well thats because the live cd can be used as a frontend.  You should be able to install from that.
[01:58] <katie-> or maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like I'm doing what I did to install it, and it just boots
[01:58] <katie-> hmm
[01:58] <katie-> ok
[01:59] <tgm4883> do you see grub come up at all?
[02:00] <katie-> no actually, i think thats part of the problem, the install stopped before grub started
[02:00] <tgm4883> well thats good
[02:00] <tgm4883> because if you tell it to boot from cd, then you shouldn't see grub
[02:00] <katie-> just booting from disc with no cd, i get something like no operating system found
[02:00] <katie-> ohh
[02:01] <katie-> ok
[02:01] <tgm4883> ok, then it is definetly booting from disk
[02:01] <tgm4883> if without disk it cannot get to the desktop
[02:01] <tgm4883> AFAIK, there is no code that changes between install and live.  It's the same environment
[02:02] <tgm4883> is this the RC or an earlier CD?
[02:03] <katie-> if rc = the one out yesterday, then its that!
[02:03] <tgm4883> yea
[02:05] <katie-> its going again, I'll see if I can get the install now
[02:05] <tgm4883> ok, keep us updated
[02:05] <katie-> thanks!
[02:11] <Suggley> i just about have everything working ok - but the samba shares seem to disapear any idea's?
[02:14] <tgm4883> Suggley, what do you mean they dissapear?
[02:19] <Suggley> i was lookin in recordings
[02:19] <Suggley> came our of that directory
[02:19] <Suggley> and teh only otehr 1 left was music
[02:21] <therethinker> Suggley: how did you mount them?
[02:21] <therethinker> Did you use the command line, fstab, or using "connect to server"
[02:24] <Suggley> i am connecting accross windows network
[02:24] <Suggley> ie from winxp machine
[02:24] <therethinker> Oh, so you're having problems in windows, not ubuntu
[02:24] <Suggley> so i guess it might mean its not broadcasting the folders
[02:24] <therethinker> Oh, okay
[02:24] <Suggley> no - i can browse any other linux box in this place from here no probs
[02:24] <therethinker> Have you restarted samba?
[02:25] <therethinker> sudo /etc/init.d/samba
[02:25] <Suggley> i have restarted the mythbox a couple of times but i will do it manually
[02:25] <Suggley> that just sounded so windowsy didnt it - i rebooted :P
[02:26] <Suggley> nah still only getting Recordings and music
[02:27] <therethinker> so its just the one share not showing up, correct?
[02:28] <Suggley> Pictures and Videos
[02:28] <Suggley> i am lookin at smb.conf now
[02:28] <therethinker> and you are only having trouble showing up on windows
[02:28] <Suggley> i only have windows desktops...
[02:29] <therethinker> Okay
[02:29] <therethinker> And half of them do show up... do they all have the same settings?
[02:30] <Suggley> yes clean install of MythBuntu
[02:30] <Suggley> i have changed nuthin to them
[02:31] <Solar_> Ok Im having a serious issue..  hehe..  crap!  Im still a new install here and a newbie..  Live TV watching works fine.. but recordings even though they say they are recording aren't
[02:31] <Solar_> not sure where to start here
[02:31] <Suggley> therethinker - i think i fixed it - but not sure wat caused it
[02:31] <therethinker> Suggley: Great
[02:31] <therethinker> Suggley: sorry I didn't really help
[02:32] <Suggley> the settings seemed to have changed in the config
[02:32] <Suggley> nah u did good - u pointed me where to look indirectly
[02:32] <therethinker> Suggley: I know, aren't I awesome :P
[02:32] <Suggley> hehe u sure are
[02:32] <Solar_> I could use a hot red poker in the right direction
[02:32] <Suggley> want a lolly pop?
[02:33] <therethinker> Solar_: hmm... I don't know I'm trying to figure it out...
[02:33] <therethinker> Suggley: Sure!
[02:33] <Suggley> i tell u i am STOKED that i got around to trying mythtv - its freaking awesome - ordering remote control on monday and all done
[02:34] <Suggley> it craps on MCE and MediaPortal
[02:34] <Solar_> Suggley: Lirc is difficult stuff..
[02:34] <therethinker> Suggley: I assume you're using mcc -- setting upi lirc is SO much easier with that ;-)
[02:34] <Suggley> i am gunna get a winblow media centre controller - i was told it was easy to set up
[02:35] <Suggley> yeah
[02:35] <Solar_> I would like Myth to change the channels on my satalite box.. but thats hard too
[02:35] <therethinker> Solar_: Yeah, do you have a blaster?
[02:35] <Solar_> even more then changing channels, I'd be stoked if I could record something
[02:35] <Solar_> I have a USBUIRT
[02:36] <Suggley> ahhh i dont have to worry about that - i just got plain jane DTV and i download the rest
[02:36] <Solar_> its weird that live tv does fine.. but you ask it to record something and it thinks its recording but its not
[02:36] <therethinker> Yeah, that's really odd
[02:36] <Solar_> Suggley: sweeet deal there
[02:36] <therethinker> You've set everything up, right?
[02:36] <Solar_> sure have
[02:37] <Solar_> I just dont understand.. I even rebooted
[02:37] <therethinker> Hmm
[02:37] <Solar_> I even reran the setup
[02:38] <therethinker> hmm
[02:40] <MythbuntuGuest14> what is lirc?
[02:41] <therethinker> $lirc
[02:42] <therethinker> $lirc
[02:42] <therethinker> $lirc
[02:42] <mythbot> LIRC is a program that allows you to use remote controls and IR blasters
[02:42] <MythbuntuGuest14> it keeps saying lirc not configured
[02:42] <MythbuntuGuest14> oh ok.
[02:42] <therethinker> Hmm... where?
[02:42] <MythbuntuGuest14> after update and on shutdown
[02:42] <therethinker> oh, yeah
[02:43] <therethinker> Do you use MCC, or did you install using apt-get?
[02:43] <MythbuntuGuest14> i clicked the orange star at the top right
[02:43] <Solar_> me?
[02:43] <therethinker> sorry, MythbuntuGuest
[02:43] <Solar_> ok
[02:44] <therethinker> MythbuntuGuest: You're using mythbuntu, right?
[02:45] <MythbuntuGuest14> yes
[02:45] <MythbuntuGuest14> i am using mythbuntu
[02:46] <MythbuntuGuest14> do i need to download the newest version burn it to a cd and reinstall?
[02:46] <dannyboy79_> anyone use automysqlbackup that can help figure out why it's not running from cron.daily?
[02:46] <therethinker> Hmm... solar_: no clue, tgm4883 should be back soon to help
[02:46] <therethinker> MythbuntuGuest nothings in great danger here
[02:47] <Solar_> therethin: thanks for looking it up
[02:47] <MythbuntuGuest14> correct but the only thing i can get to work is the weather
[02:47] <therethinker> Solar_: sorry :(
[02:48] <dannyboy79_> anyone use automysqlbackup that can help me?
[02:48] <Solar_> therethin: all we can do is try
[02:50] <MythbuntuGuest51> G'Day all, i've just booted a mythbuntu 7.10 rom to try mythbuntu for the first time. When I pick "Start or Install" or "Start in safe graphics", after a short while, the screen freezes at the mythbuntu logo with the purple bar going back and forth. Any ideas?
[02:50] <therethinker> how long was it going back and forth, and what are the approx system specs?
[02:51] <MythbuntuGuest51> maybe 20-30 sec
[02:51] <MythbuntuGuest51> its not a brilliant spec... 1.7ghz
[02:51] <therethinker> hmm
[02:51] <therethinker> how long was it going back and forth?
[02:51] <MythbuntuGuest51> i think 380mb ram ... bit low i know
[02:52] <MythbuntuGuest51> i can time it if you like... about 20-30 sec i think
[02:52] <dannyboy79_> anyone use automysqlbackup that can help me? ity's not running from cron.daily?
[02:52] <therethinker> Wait, but how long did you leave it before you considered it frozen?
[02:53] <therethinker> 380MB is a bit on the "edge" for the live CD
[02:53] <therethinker> not exact time, but like 4 minutes, or an hour?
[02:53] <MythbuntuGuest51> about 10min... caps, scroll etc stopped working and it needed a hard reset
[02:53] <MythbuntuGuest51> just rebooted
[02:53] <therethinker> Hm... I'll test it out with those specs
[02:53] <MythbuntuGuest51> ill check timing
[02:54] <therethinker> no
[02:54] <therethinker> I don't need timing, I just wanted to know approx
[02:54] <MythbuntuGuest51> like i said.... 20-30 sec
[02:54] <therethinker> Give me 20 minutes to get the iso ;-)
[02:54] <dannyboy79_> do scripts in cron.daily need to be owned by rot?
[02:54] <dannyboy79_> root to run?
[02:54] <therethinker> I think...
[02:56] <MythbuntuGuest51> like i said.... 20-30 sec from when i select "Start or Install"
[02:56] <therethinker> (what kind of mythbuntu dev am I, that doesn't have the ISO!? :P)
[02:56] <MythbuntuGuest51> sorry,
[02:56] <therethinker> Yeah, that's fine. I know I've thought it locked up, and I gave ti some time
[02:56] <therethinker> Its not your fault :P
[02:56] <therethinker> I should have gotten it by now
[02:57] <MythbuntuGuest51> that was meant to be its 1min 20sec from hitting "Start or Install"
[02:57] <MythbuntuGuest51> cool
[02:57] <MythbuntuGuest51> is it possibly a driver issue at that stage?
[02:58] <therethinker> I don't think so, SGM would have done it
[02:58] <therethinker> and you would have gotten an error
[02:58] <therethinker> I'm 90% sure it's a spec thing
[02:58] <MythbuntuGuest51> ah ok... wierd
[02:58] <MythbuntuGuest51> i figured its a bit on the low spec side, so im not expecting miracles
[02:59] <MythbuntuGuest51> just thought it would be cool to try
[02:59] <therethinker> No, it should work
[02:59] <MythbuntuGuest51> i wouldnt really have expected a live distro to run in that sort of ram, but figured i might get the installer up...
[03:00] <therethinker> Is there an option like "install from command line" or "alternate installer"
[03:00] <therethinker> or "OEM install"?
[03:01] <MythbuntuGuest51> cant remember, will have to reset to check
[03:01] <therethinker> Try that out, if it exists
[03:02] <MythbuntuGuest51> no menu option as such... there was accessibilty and options (F5 and F6 i think)
[03:03] <therethinker> hmm
[03:03] <MythbuntuGuest51> just running a "Check CD for defects" as well
[03:03] <MythbuntuGuest51> the md5 of the iso was fine
[03:03] <therethinker> Yeah, but after burning
[03:03] <MythbuntuGuest51> and i verified the burn, but yeah, probably worth the check as well
[03:06] <dannyboy79_> is it safe to allow Feisty to upgrade mysql-server-5.0
[03:06] <therethinker> Don't know
[03:08] <MythbuntuGuest51> turns out hitting esc will exit the menu to a text mode
[03:08] <therethinker> ah
[03:09] <MythbuntuGuest51> any suggestions for what i can use a the "boot:" prompt though? hitting enter goes back to the purple bar
[03:16] <MythbuntuGuest51> bugger... gotta go. Will leave this window open just in case. Thanks for the help! Cheers.
[03:42] <MitoTranin> MythbuntuGuest51: I would suggest grabbing the normal Gutsy installer and doing a command-line installation of that
[03:42] <MitoTranin> then install mythbuntu via apt-get
[03:44] <tgm4883> back
[03:45] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, actually that would be the alternate Gutsy cd
[03:45] <MitoTranin> ok, well, then do that :)
[03:45] <MitoTranin> $poke tgm4883
[03:45] <mythbot> /me stabs tgm4883 violently with a rusty spoon
[03:45] <tgm4883> how much ram?
[03:45] <therethinker> there's a alt mythbuntu CD?
[03:45] <tgm4883> (im skimming the log)
[03:45] <therethinker> I couldn't find it
[03:45] <therethinker> 380MB
[03:45] <tgm4883> therethinker, alternate gutsy cd
[03:46] <MitoTranin> therethinker: no, the alternate gutsy cd
[03:46] <therethinker> Oh
[03:46] <tgm4883> 380 should be fine
[03:46] <tgm4883> more than enough
[03:46] <MitoTranin> 256 was enough
[03:46] <therethinker> is there a mythbuntu package?
[03:46] <MitoTranin> I was able to install on that with the beta
[03:46] <tgm4883> i've installed it in a 285MB VM
[03:47] <MitoTranin> therethinker: it's like the linux-source package
[03:47] <MitoTranin> it isn't really a package itself
[03:47] <therethinker> but, can someone say "sudo apt-get install mythbuntu" and install everything?
[03:47] <MitoTranin> but it is a group of packages that is referenced by a single package
[03:47] <MitoTranin> I believe so
[03:47] <therethinker> similar to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[03:47] <MitoTranin> (that's what I'm told... haven't done it yet)
[03:47] <therethinker> you mean a meta-package?
[03:47] <MitoTranin> yep
[03:47] <tgm4883> mythbuntu-desktop
[03:51] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I've been waiting for you to come back
[03:52] <tgm4883> solarbaby, can you give me 10 more minutes?
[03:52] <MitoTranin> hey guys...
[03:52] <tgm4883> i need to run the GF somewhere then i will be back to help
[03:52] <MitoTranin> having some problems with my tuner:
[03:52] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I've got myself a problem that I just can't seem to get through.. I've got the newest install of UbuntuMyth as of today.. Live to works great, but recordings say they are recording but just dont
[03:52] <solarbaby> tgm4883: sure
[03:53] <MitoTranin> this is a thumbnail of a recording... every recording or live-tv looks like this:  http://mitopia.net/files/1009_20071013043500.nuv.png
[03:53] <MitoTranin> I had this problem in feisty with it, but I thought that it was due to a graphics problem... but I'm getting the same thing in a VMware install
[03:54] <MitoTranin> (that pick is installed into a VMware VM)
[03:54] <MitoTranin> *pick = pic
[04:10] <tgm4883> and im back
[04:11] <MitoTranin> wb
[04:11] <solarbaby> tgm4883: Heya
[04:12] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, what card
[04:12] <tgm4883> solarbaby, what is the permissions of your recordings dir
[04:12] <solarbaby> tgm4883: im kinda stocking you cause im just desperate
[04:12] <MitoTranin> Plextor TV402U
[04:12] <solarbaby> tgm4883: ;)
[04:12] <tgm4883> solarbaby, I guess thats ok.  I'm in a good mood cause LSU lost ;)
[04:13] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, can you record outside of mythtv?
[04:13] <solarbaby> tgm4883: drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2007-10-13 18:46 recordings
[04:13] <MitoTranin> it's a specialized tuner that does on-the-fly divx encoding, MythTV is one of the few programs that are said can read it
[04:13] <MitoTranin> it's works in Windows perfectly
[04:14] <MitoTranin> but I'm still trying to figure out how to get it's default player/recorder (gorecord) to use the tuner instead of a video input
[04:14] <tgm4883> that just proves that the card isn't broke.  I'm interested to make sure the correct drivers are loaded and such in linux
[04:15] <solarbaby> tgm4883: with live tv working so well, i can't imagine why i can record anything.. hehe.. i double checked my settings.. and I even put my normal log in user into the mythtv group
[04:15] <tgm4883> solarbaby, this is a default mythbuntu install?
[04:16] <solarbaby> tgm4883: yeah.. default and as recent as version 7.10rc
[04:16] <solarbaby> tgm4883: my tv tuner card is a Hauppauge 350 using Svideo 1 input
[04:17] <tgm4883> solarbaby, is nothing being recorded, or is something being recorded and it not showing up in the recorded programs list
[04:18] <solarbaby> tgm4883: It sez its recording anything I ask for..  but nothing records to the directory and nothing shows up in the frontend
[04:18] <solarbaby> tgm4883: my recording directory is set to default..
[04:18] <tgm4883> so the recordings dir is empty then, hmm
[04:18] <tgm4883> what filesystem?
[04:18] <solarbaby> tgm4883: yeah there is a lock file that keeps getting created there
[04:18] <solarbaby> tgm4883: you know, im just not sure how do I check?
[04:19] <tgm4883> theres nothing like 3081_20071012233500.mpg in the dir?
[04:19] <solarbaby> no..  but if I watch live tv it leaves an mpeg
[04:19] <tgm4883> strange
[04:21] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, did you set up the recording profiles for the device?
[04:21] <solarbaby> I googled it and checked over the most common things I have found recommendations for
[04:23] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, also, you may want to skim some of this as it may help https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/px-tv402u-support
[04:24] <MitoTranin> tgm4883: I'm the one that made that blueprint
[04:25] <MitoTranin> and tgm4883, it depends on what you mean by the recording profile...
[04:25] <tgm4883> heh, so you've already seen it?
[04:25] <MitoTranin> are you talking about the device settings in myth-setup?
[04:25] <MitoTranin> heh, yeah
[04:25] <tgm4883> also, FYI, you would be the drafter of the blueprint
[04:26] <MitoTranin> and there's lots more, but I was waiting until I actually got it functional before I added the more part
[04:26] <tgm4883> recording profiles should be under settings, general settings in the frontend (I think)
[04:27] <MitoTranin> interesting...
[04:27] <tgm4883> solarbaby, is this a master backend?
[04:27] <MitoTranin> I just saw an old MythTV mailing list article that said they could only watch the channel that gorecord told it to tune to
[04:28] <MitoTranin> so I checked the options, and found how to get gorecord to tune into a channel, and got it to record, and it does, actually, record... kinda
[04:28] <solarbaby> tgm4883: yes
[04:29] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, kinda?
[04:29] <MitoTranin> tgm4883: just a sec...
[04:29] <solarbaby> tgm4883: this keeps on reappearing in my recordings directory nfslockfile.lock
[04:29] <tgm4883> solarbaby, did you change the mysql.txt file at all
[04:30] <MythbuntuGuest14> hello
[04:30] <tgm4883> $hello
[04:30] <mythbot> Welcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.
[04:31] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I dont believe I did
[04:31] <tgm4883> solarbaby, anything in the backend log about it?
[04:31] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I have to find the log.. never seen it
[04:32] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I did change one thing
[04:32] <tgm4883> /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[04:32] <solarbaby> I changed the mysql password for the mythtv user to an old_password so its compatable with mysql 4.0
[04:32] <solarbaby> tgm4883: thanks
[04:32] <tgm4883> what do you mean old password?
[04:32] <tgm4883> any why do you need it to be compatible with mysql 4?
[04:33] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I have a xbox script that can connect to mythtv and schedule recordings and stuff..  but its only compatable with mysql 4.0 so I had to make the password use older scheme
[04:33] <tgm4883> where did you change that?
[04:33] <tgm4883> also, how did you get mysql 4 installed?
[04:34] <MitoTranin> tgm4883: this is what I mean by kinda:  http://mitopia.net/files/testing.avi
[04:34] <solarbaby> tgm4883: mysql> UPDATE mysql.user SET Password = OLD_PASSWORD('secretmagicpasswd') WHERE User = 'live';
[04:35] <MitoTranin> that is with the gorecord program that comes with the tuner driver
[04:35] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I didn't install mysql to the backend
[04:35] <solarbaby> tgm4883: i mean i didn't install mysql 4.0 to the backend I left it alone, I just told it to use an older password scheme for mythtv user
[04:35] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, you're going to have to help me. Whats the problem there
[04:35] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok, i tried the codec stuff and I still cant play dvd
[04:35] <MitoTranin> did you watch it?
[04:36] <MitoTranin> the video quality is utterly terrible
[04:36] <MitoTranin> BUT: it does give video, and audio
[04:36] <tgm4883> solarbaby, did you tell the backend the new password?
[04:36] <MitoTranin> the problem is that I still can't get MythTV to get even that much
[04:36] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, so just the quality is bad?
[04:36] <solarbaby> tgm4883: the new password is the old password
[04:37] <solarbaby> tgm4883: its just using a different scheme
[04:37] <tgm4883> ah
[04:38] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest14, does the dvd try to spin up when you tell it to play?
[04:38] <MythbuntuGuest14> let me try again
[04:39] <MythbuntuGuest14> no spin, no light. screen goes black and it comes back
[04:39] <tgm4883> ok
[04:40] <MythbuntuGuest14> real fast less than half a second
[04:40] <tgm4883> did you set mythdvd so it knows where your dvd drive is?
[04:40] <MythbuntuGuest14> umm no.. how?
[04:40] <tgm4883> sec
[04:40] <tgm4883> do you know which device your dvd drive is?
[04:40] <tgm4883> ie /dev/hdc
[04:40] <MythbuntuGuest14> master??
[04:40] <tgm4883> primary or secondary master
[04:41] <MythbuntuGuest14> only have one hooked up
[04:41] <MythbuntuGuest14> no cd
[04:41] <tgm4883> you have a hard drive hooked up?
[04:41] <MythbuntuGuest14> secondary ide controler.. master on cable and jumpter
[04:42] <MythbuntuGuest14> yes i got a hard drive. that is how i boot
[04:42] <tgm4883> ok
[04:42] <tgm4883> then it's secondary master i presume
[04:42] <tgm4883> which is
[04:42] <tgm4883> /dev/hdc
[04:42] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok, now what?
[04:43] <MythbuntuGuest14> should i check?
[04:43] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest14, Utilities/Setup > Setup > Media Settings > DVD Settings > General Settings
[04:43] <tgm4883> solarbaby, any backend log errors?
[04:44] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, so the gorecord program is able to tune and record
[04:44] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok
[04:44] <MythbuntuGuest14> now what
[04:44] <MythbuntuGuest14> location of dvd device: /dev/dvd
[04:44] <tgm4883> set location of dvd device to /dev/hdc
[04:45] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok got it. now try it?.. i clicked finish also
[04:45] <tgm4883> yes try it now
[04:46] <MitoTranin> tgm4883: yes... but feel free to take care of the others, I can wait :)
[04:46] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, are you saying I can't defend the three man weave?
[04:46] <MitoTranin> I'll even try to keep-up and chime in when I know something about it :)
[04:46] <MitoTranin> lol
[04:47] <MythbuntuGuest14> aww samething.. this is a new install.. anything I might of missed?
[04:48] <solarbaby> tgm4883: http://paste-it.net/3933
[04:48] <MythbuntuGuest14> if i click import dvd it says no jobsand or waiting on dvd
[04:49] <MythbuntuGuest14> is there a way I can see which drive the dvd is?
[04:49] <tgm4883> ls -l | grep hd
[04:49] <tgm4883> er
[04:49] <tgm4883> ls -l | grep /dev/hd
[04:50] <MythbuntuGuest14> exit mythtv?
[04:50] <tgm4883> solarbaby, you said that it is svideo in?
[04:50] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest14, no
[04:50] <tgm4883> go
[04:50] <tgm4883> Utilities/setup > setup > mythbuntu
[04:50] <MythbuntuGuest14> k
[04:51] <tgm4883> you can get to terminal from advanced management
[04:52] <solarbaby> tgm4883: yes svideo in is correct
[04:52] <tgm4883> how do you change the channel?
[04:52] <MythbuntuGuest14> did not get anything on the ls
[04:53] <tgm4883> hmm
[04:53] <solarbaby> I have dish network..  I program my Reciever to turn itself to the right channel at the right time
[04:53] <MythbuntuGuest14> ls same as dir?
[04:54] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest14, thats cause im a dork
[04:54] <tgm4883> ls -l /dev/ | grep hd
[04:55] <MythbuntuGuest14> ok got something
[04:55] <MythbuntuGuest14> cdrom -> hdc
[04:55] <MythbuntuGuest14> list
[04:56] <MythbuntuGuest14> does it know it is dvd? i only see cdrom stuff
[04:57] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest14, what is in /media/cdrom
[04:58] <MythbuntuGuest14> i see hda hda1 hda2 hda5 hdb hdb1 hdb2 hdb5 hdc
[04:58] <MythbuntuGuest14> umm dvd movie
[04:58] <MythbuntuGuest14> should i try another movie?
[04:58] <tgm4883> solarbaby, I think* that what is happening is that it is trying to change the channel and failing
[04:58] <tgm4883> but thats just a guess, give me a few more minutes
[04:59] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest14, thats in /media/cdrom/??
[04:59] <tgm4883> or there is no /media/cdrom
[05:00] <MythbuntuGuest14> no i only have a dvd hooked up now.. i removed the cdrom and hooked up a dvd
[05:00] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I think your right.. just dont know what to do.. I'll be glad to wait for your help, and Thanks!
[05:00] <MythbuntuGuest14> go a head solar.. i am so new. i do not know anything
[05:01] <MythbuntuGuest14> this is the first time i messed with any linux stuff about 2 weeks ago.. all i can get to work is the weather
[05:01] <MythbuntuGuest14> lol
[05:03] <MythbuntuGuest00> oops
[05:03] <MythbuntuGuest00> my bad. this is guest14
[05:03] <MythbuntuGuest00> or was i 41?
[05:04] <MitoTranin> Guest14, you can type /nick MyNameHere to change your name if you want
[05:04] <MythbuntuGuest00> oh
[05:05] <SuperNoob> did that work?
[05:05] <MitoTranin> yep
[05:06] <SuperNoob> so do you think it is confused because i installed on a cd rom drive. then i just now hooked up a dvdrom drive and unhooked my cdrom?
[05:06] <tgm4883> no
[05:07] <tgm4883> it should pick up the new hardware fine
[05:07] <SuperNoob> should i try to completely reinstall?
[05:07] <tgm4883> no
[05:07] <Tari> I think Ubuntu just sticks all optical discs in /media/cdrom*
[05:08] <tgm4883> yea looks that way
[05:08] <tgm4883> SuperNoob, can you post the output of
[05:08] <SuperNoob> how?
[05:08] <tgm4883> ls /media/cdrom0
[05:09] <SuperNoob> i got a new line
[05:09] <SuperNoob> or nothing
[05:10] <SuperNoob> i am chating on my windows laptop. so i can do exactly what yall say at the same time
[05:11] <SuperNoob> i did get something when i tryied that other grep thing
[05:16] <tgm4883> hmm
[05:17] <tgm4883> SuperNoob, how long ago did you install?
[05:17] <tgm4883> what cd did you use?
[05:19] <SuperNoob> umm.. i think the alpha
[05:19] <solarbaby> tgm4883: we were right my friend
[05:19] <tgm4883> how long ago
[05:19] <SuperNoob> but i think i tried the beta
[05:19] <solarbaby> tgm4883: Thanks for your help
[05:20] <tgm4883> solarbaby, right about what?
[05:20] <SuperNoob> should i retry with the beta
[05:20] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I told it to scan for channels, now I have a bunch of channels in my list that I dont have.. they come up as unknowns so I need to get rid of all that crap now.. but at least it records
[05:20] <SuperNoob> how i tell what version i got?
[05:20] <tgm4883> SuperNoob, do you have anything important that you don't want to lose on there?
[05:21] <SuperNoob> nope
[05:21] <SuperNoob> i will try to reinstall
[05:21] <tgm4883> get the new release candidate and install that
[05:21] <tgm4883> make sure to verify the iso, burn at a slow speed and verify the cd
[05:21] <SuperNoob> when i boot i now have option 26.12 and 26.14 or something
[05:22] <solarbaby> SuperNoob: the new release candidate kicks ass
[05:22] <SuperNoob> ok
[05:22] <solarbaby> SuperNoob: it was easy easy easy
[05:22] <tgm4883> I think something got screwed up in the install
[05:22] <SuperNoob> now that i have a dvd is there a verstion for dvd
[05:22] <solarbaby> SuperNoob: it was almost easier then installing windows
[05:22] <tgm4883> there is only a cd version, but it will work just fine
[05:23] <SuperNoob> so on install should i select format entire drive.. it will get rid of everything right
[05:23] <SuperNoob> it is like the second option
[05:24] <tgm4883> ideally a custom partition would be best
[05:24] <tgm4883> how big is your hard drive
[05:24] <SuperNoob> 60gb
[05:24] <tgm4883> I
[05:24] <solarbaby> I'd use the whole drive
[05:24] <solarbaby> and then i'd go to the store and buy a second drive
[05:24] <solarbaby> 500 gig should do
[05:25] <SuperNoob> i do have a second but it smaller
[05:25] <tgm4883> I'd do 10GB for /  (ext3) 1GB swap and the rest xfs for mythtv
[05:25] <solarbaby> bigger is better.. you'll soon agree
[05:25] <tgm4883> how big is the second
[05:26] <solarbaby> it'd set this one up just so you know how to do it.. then when you get your paycheck buy a bigger drive
[05:26] <SuperNoob> maybe 10 or 20g it is old
[05:26] <tgm4883> what kind of tuners do you have?
[05:26] <SuperNoob> umm, i dont
[05:26] <Wy|laptop> Me?
[05:27] <SuperNoob> i was waiting to ask yall what you think i should get
[05:27] <solarbaby> Hauupage 250
[05:27] <tgm4883> Wy|laptop, what's your beef with comcast?
[05:27] <solarbaby> I have a 350 but you might not want that
[05:27] <tgm4883> SuperNoob, what do you want to record?
[05:27] <tgm4883> hd or sd?
[05:27] <Wy|laptop> *mutter* *mutter* most of the usable channels are encrypted :P
[05:27] <SuperNoob> yes, would like hd.
[05:28] <tgm4883> how do you get the signal to the TV?
[05:28] <tgm4883> what are your system specs?
[05:28] <SuperNoob> i have an hd cable box
[05:28] <tgm4883> do you live in the US?
[05:28] <SuperNoob> scientific atlanta 8300hd
[05:29] <tgm4883> Wy|laptop, well yeah
[05:29] <Wy|laptop> that, and right now my HDHomeRun isn't picking up any OTA channels
[05:30] <tgm4883> Wy|laptop, are you getting OTA over cable?
[05:30] <tgm4883> SuperNoob, what channels do you primarily watch?
[05:31] <Wy|laptop> tgm: yeah, sorta. about half of the OTA digital channels come through
[05:31] <SuperNoob> abc hd, espn hd, hbo hd,
[05:31] <SuperNoob> nbc hd, cbs, fox hd
[05:32] <tgm4883> espn hd you will only be able to get through the cable box, hbo you probably won't be able to get
[05:32] <solarbaby> I personally am not ready to do HD yet
[05:32] <tgm4883> Wy|laptop, if you don't mind me asking what part of the country do you live in?
[05:32] <Wy|laptop> OR, USA
[05:33] <tgm4883> no freakin way
[05:33] <tgm4883> me too
[05:33] <Wy|laptop> all I want is fucking discovery in digital :P
[05:33] <solarbaby> <-- Nevada USA
[05:33] <Wy|laptop> tgm: PDX?
[05:33] <tgm4883> salem
[05:33] <SuperNoob> waco texas usa
[05:33] <solarbaby> Remember the Alimo!
[05:33] <Wy|laptop> hrm, another irc guy I know is down there. Plays eve-online as well
[05:33] <SuperNoob> i discovery hd
[05:33] <solarbaby> or .. i forget
[05:33] <solarbaby> Alamo maybe
[05:33] <SuperNoob> solor: lol
[05:34] <tgm4883> Wy|laptop, you can only get discovery through the cable box afaik
[05:34] <solarbaby> heh
[05:34] <Wy|laptop> tgm: yeah
[05:34] <Wy|laptop> guess it's good old analog for me, then
[05:34] <solarbaby> Im waiting until its easier to record in HD
[05:34] <tgm4883> Wy|laptop, um you can stream it via firewire
[05:34] <solarbaby> and then i'll spend some $$ on it
[05:34] <MitoTranin> tgm4883: found this, and it fixed my problem:  http://lists.atrpms.net/pipermail/atrpms-users/2005-April/002855.html
[05:35] <MitoTranin> now I just have to do it on my real system, and I'll be a super-happy camper :)
[05:35] <Wy|laptop> yeah, I know
[05:35] <solarbaby> as is I compress all my recordings to Xvid cause I can fit way more that way
[05:35] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, that's great
[05:35] <MitoTranin> (real system as opposed to this vmware system)
[05:35] <Wy|laptop> gotta rig up an ir blaster, though
[05:35] <tgm4883> Wy|laptop, fyi there is a gutsy release party on the 20th at free geek
[05:35] <solarbaby> MitoTranin: are you running Myth in Vmware?
[05:36] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, do you want to do a little write up on that for us?
[05:36] <MitoTranin> solarbaby: I am right now for testing, not for production
[05:36] <Wy|laptop> tgm: *laugh* I'm volunteering there, y'know
[05:36] <solarbaby> MitoTranin: I see..  had me interested for a moment
[05:37] <MitoTranin> solarbaby: I'm sure it would work... but I'm just not interested in using it that way
[05:37] <MitoTranin> it seems to work great
[05:37] <solarbaby> MitoTranin: sounds unstable
[05:37] <tgm4883> SuperNoob, if you can handle espn in sd and no hbo hd (you're not gonna get it HD anyway) getting a hd card is much more reliable than firewire
[05:37] <MitoTranin> tgm4883: I've been writing it up as I go the whole time: http://wiki.mitopia.net/Plextor_PX-TV402U
[05:37] <tgm4883> sweet
[05:37] <solarbaby> I have the Plextor PX TV402U
[05:38] <tgm4883> SuperNoob, fyi you will need a bigger harddrive for hd, around 7GB/hr
[05:38] <solarbaby> I haven't used it with Myth Yet..  but as soon as I put myth on a second computer up it goes
[05:38] <MitoTranin> solarbaby: oh?  I am just getting it working
[05:38] <MitoTranin> like it sofar :0
[05:38] <MitoTranin> what have you used it with/on/etc?
[05:39] <solarbaby> MitoTranin: I used it with GBPVR for a little while..  the quality isn't as good as the Hauppage Cards so I just shelfed it
[05:39] <tgm4883> Wy|laptop, there is also an oregon local team #ubuntu-oregon
[05:39] <solarbaby> MitoTranin: its a nice little device though..  I dont know if myth will support its divx encoder, i doubt it
[05:39] <Wy|laptop> anyone know how long it's going to take the imod pad stuff to get merged into lircd and the imon lcd to get into lcdproc?
[05:40] <Wy|laptop> tgm: *grin* not really partisan to any distro, really
[05:40] <Wy|laptop> hell, I'm not really partisan to any platform
[05:40] <tgm4883> no your best bet is the lirc mailing list
[05:40] <solarbaby> lirc is killing me
[05:41] <MitoTranin> solarbaby: actually Myth supported it's divx almost right when it came out
[05:41] <MitoTranin> records to .nuv files though
[05:41] <solarbaby> if the myth team can make lirc as easy to use as myth is to install I might be so tempted to write a song about it
[05:42] <solarbaby> MitoTranin: wow I didn't know that.. Now Im happy
[05:42] <SuperNoob> ok, i can will get a bigger harddrive. I will get a new computer. Why is it says my scientific atlanta 8300hd cable box only has 250mhz processor and 64 m of ram. I can record 2 hd shows while watching a recorded one? how fast of a comp do i need to do that?
[05:42] <solarbaby> MitoTranin: what the heck is a .nuv?
[05:43] <Tari> nupplevideo format
[05:43] <solarbaby> Im not sure what i'd do with that..  an avi would be fine
[05:43] <MitoTranin> solarbaby: when setting up your encoder, one of the options it actually says "plextor TV402U etc"
[05:43] <MitoTranin> something like that at least
[05:43] <tgm4883> SuperNoob, you need to build a core two duo
[05:43] <tgm4883> then you'll be fine
[05:44] <Wy|laptop> supernoob: custom decoder chips.
[05:44] <SuperNoob> what kind of tuner?
[05:44] <tgm4883> are you ok with espn in sd?
[05:44] <SuperNoob> can i get if from fry's or best buy?
[05:44] <tgm4883> no
[05:45] <tgm4883> you could but not the one you should get
[05:45] <SuperNoob> where do i get it?
[05:45] <tgm4883> online you need a hdhomerun
[05:46] <solarbaby> tgm4883: after doing that automatic scan of channels, I am now left with extra channels in my list ..  I need to disable those some how
[05:47] <MitoTranin> ok! burning the RC for a clean install on my hardware system.. lets hope this thing works as good as it's supposed to :)
[05:47] <tgm4883> solarbaby, step 5 of mythTV setup
[05:47] <solarbaby> tgm4883: checking
[05:49] <gib> My ADS usb irblaster isn't working.   The proper config file was loaded at startup, I see that the usb driver was loaded, and I also see the lircd deamon running, but it's not working, so I assume lircd doesn't know what port to link to.  The blaster is registered on ttyUSB0.  How do I config  lircd to look there?  Or am I barking up the wrong tree, and it's a differnt issue altogether?
[05:50] <clarkey> hey everyone quick question mythbackend has stopped starting up automatically on boot is there a way to get it to do so?
[05:51] <tgm4883> clarkey, is there anything in the backend log?
[05:51] <solarbaby> tgm4883: what I dont understand is how I get rid of the extra channels, shouldn't it automaticly go with the channels I selected on the schedules direct site?
[05:51] <tgm4883> solarbaby, no, it only does that if you grab the channels from there not scanning
[05:51] <tgm4883> what you need to do is manually go through the channels and hit delete
[05:52] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I originally grabbed the channels from there, and the problem seemed to be that I didn't scan
[05:52] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I know I jumped the gun to figure out the answer before you were ready ;)
[05:52] <gib> I think you can just myth-frontend  to the xfce programs started at launch menu.
[05:52] <gib> add
[05:52] <tgm4883> solarbaby, you did good sometimes setup just takes a little extra work :)
[05:53] <solarbaby> tgm4883: Thanks Buddy..  Im pretty happy with myself..  but Im happier with the UbuntuMyth Crew..  man you guys did it all for us
[05:55] <solarbaby> tgm4883: I dont really understand how to delete the channels.. it looks like I can delete everything or nothing.. in iption 5
[05:55] <tgm4883> solarbaby, you can, but you don't want to do that
[05:55] <solarbaby> tgm4883: help
[05:56] <solarbaby> tgm4883: im confused
[05:56] <tgm4883> go up to the channels and scroll through to the ones you want to delete on the keyboard (you may have to hit d instead)
[05:56] <solarbaby> tgm4883: You nailed that one, Thanks!
[05:56] <tgm4883> no prob bob
[06:06] <clarkey> solarbaby: im not sure how do I check these logs?
[06:06] <clarkey> sorry tgm4883: im not sure how do I check these logs?
[06:07] <tgm4883> clarkey, /var/log/mythbackend
[06:07] <tgm4883> you can use nano
[06:11] <clarkey> tgm4883: the file doesnt even exist
[06:12] <clarkey> is that a problem or does that just mean the backend hasn't experienced any errors yet
[06:12] <tgm4883> my bad
[06:12] <tgm4883> clarkey, /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend
[06:13] <clarkey> still no file there
[06:13] <tgm4883> clarkey, /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[06:13] <tgm4883> one of these times i will get it right
[06:13] <clarkey> yay found it
[06:15] <clarkey> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/884/   thats the contents of the file
[06:17] <clarkey> as you can see theyre all three days old by the looks
[06:17] <tgm4883> when did it start not starting?
[06:18] <tgm4883> obviously 3 days ago, but what changed?
[06:18] <clarkey> I think the problem is that mythbackend is just not set to run at startup, i didnt follow the whole setup properly from the cd at the end of the install when it asks you to configure the backend I ignored it because there were other steps (compiling tv card drivers) that I had to do first so maybe that caused it)
[06:19] <tgm4883> that shouldn't have caused it
[06:19] <tgm4883> can you start it from the command line?
[06:19] <clarkey> well its a new install its probably never started on its own, I have been starting it up in a terminal
[06:19] <tgm4883> how?
[06:19] <clarkey> yeh and I dont see any obvious problems
[06:20] <clarkey> like not being able to acess the record directory or something (Ive had that b4 as a problem with it not starting up) everything to me looks fine)
[06:21] <tgm4883> sec
[06:21] <clarkey> ctrl + alt + left to get to a new workstation right click the desktop and select terminal then just punch in mythbackend
[06:21] <tgm4883> hmm
[06:21] <tgm4883> mythbackend should be started via
[06:22] <tgm4883> /etc/init.d/mythbackend
[06:22] <tgm4883> ie
[06:22] <tgm4883> /etc/init.d/mythbackend start
[06:22] <clarkey> yea'
[06:22] <tgm4883> k
[06:22] <clarkey> is there some file I should add this to to get it to start
[06:23] <clarkey> ohh u saying thats what I should use in the terminal?
[06:24] <tgm4883> well thats how it should be started in the terminal
[06:24] <tgm4883> but that won't make it autostart
[06:24] <clarkey> isnt there a file that I can stick it in to make it start on start-up
[06:26] <MitoTranin> you make a symlink in one of the rc.d directories that points to that file
[06:26] <tgm4883> clarkey, whats the output of
[06:26] <tgm4883>  ls -l /etc/rc3.d/S20myth*
[06:26] <MitoTranin> in /etc/rc3.d/ there is a bunch of symlinks that run when the system is booted.. you just make sure that a symlink is in there
[06:27] <clarkey> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2007-10-10 18:25 /etc/rc3.d/S20mythtv-backend -> ../init.d/mythtv-backend
[06:27] <MitoTranin> they are started in alphabetical order, which is why they all have a number with them, so that they start in the right order
[06:27] <MitoTranin> (ie: you can't start mythtv-backend before you start mysql, so you make sure that mythtv-backend has a higher number, so it comes later alphabetically
[06:28] <clarkey> oh ok so its a folder is it?
[06:28] <tgm4883> hmm
[06:28] <clarkey> ohh btw the backend is running from the terminal atm if that makes any difference to the output above
[06:29] <tgm4883> can you post a new pastebin with the new info from backend.log
[06:29] <clarkey> its exactly the same
[06:29] <gib> I got it working :)  I had to add /dev/ttyUSB0 to /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[06:30] <gib> It would be nice if MythBuntu would set that up automatically, or at least give a message that it needs to be added manually.
[06:31] <clarkey> there is still nothing in the mythbackend.log from within 2 days
[06:31] <tgm4883> gib, do you want to add a blueprint for that?
[06:31] <gib> When you install Mytbuntu and choose your ir device from the list, it gives the impression that it is going to be all the way set up.
[06:31] <gib> What do you mean?
[06:31] <tgm4883> a blueprint is a feature request
[06:32] <tgm4883> $blueprint
[06:32] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "A blueprint is a type of paper-based reproduction usually of a technical drawing documenting an architecture or an engineering design." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueprint
[06:32] <gib> Ah, OK.  Thanks.
[06:32] <tgm4883> $launchpad
[06:32] <mythbot> http://launchpad.net/mythbuntu/
[06:32] <MitoTranin> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[06:32] <tgm4883> there ya go
[06:32] <gib> OK.  Thanks.
[06:32] <MitoTranin> should tell therethinker to add blueprint and bugreport to the tag-list
[06:33] <tgm4883> MitoTranin, it should be on there
[06:33] <MitoTranin> I know it *should* be... but it wasn't... therefore, why I said we should tell him to add it :)
[06:34] <tgm4883> $bugs
[06:34] <mythbot> http://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[06:34] <tgm4883> $features
[06:34] <MitoTranin> ah, didn't try bugs
[06:34] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Feature (archaeology), any dug, built, or dumped evidence of human activity" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features
[06:34] <tgm4883> im pretty sure there is ablueprint one too
[06:34] <MitoTranin> $request
[06:34] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "a question" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Request
[06:34] <MitoTranin> $requests
[06:34] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "a question" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requests
[06:35] <gib> Now I only have one problem left, and that's getting the PTV-305 hardware channel to work.  I have a feeling the firmware it's loading is close, but not close enough.
[06:35] <MitoTranin> clarkey: you're having problems still, right?
[06:36] <clarkey> ahh not sure
[06:36] <MitoTranin> your last pastebin showed database problems
[06:36] <gib> I think there is a way to extact the exact firmware from the windows driver somehow.  I wonder if that would work better than the ivtv firmware it's using?
[06:36] <MitoTranin> did you try to do something with it manually?
[06:36] <clarkey> could you step me through this whole thing of adding mythtv to rc3.d
[06:36] <MitoTranin> gib: what card?
[06:37] <gib> ADS PTV-305
[06:37] <MitoTranin> clarkey: it's already there
[06:37] <MitoTranin> your pastebin showed that it did startup properly
[06:37] <MitoTranin> but that it encountered an error with the database, then closed
[06:37] <clarkey> ahh no havent done anything to the database
[06:37] <MitoTranin> ok, get to the terminal then
[06:37] <MitoTranin> and then run this command:
[06:37] <MitoTranin> dpkg --reconfigure mythtv-database
[06:38] <clarkey> yeh but those are 3 days old and its been rebooted 10 times since then
[06:38] <gib> Software channel /dev/video one works, but Harware MPEG2 /dev/video1 doesn't.
[06:38] <MitoTranin> after you do that, run mythbackend in the console and then see if it works
[06:38] <MitoTranin> ah gib, I remember you now :0
[06:38] <MitoTranin> :) rather
[06:38] <clarkey> yea ive already got mythbackend running in a console
[06:39] <MitoTranin> clarkey: close it
[06:39] <MitoTranin> run dpkg --reconfigure mythtv-database
[06:39] <clarkey> ok
[06:39] <MitoTranin> then re-open it
[06:40] <gib> :)
[06:40] <clarkey> ok will do
[06:40] <clarkey> is it ok if I ssh in
[06:40] <clarkey> ?
[06:42] <clarkey> dpkg says --reconfigure is an unknown option
[06:45] <clarkey> MitoTranin: any ideas
[06:45] <MitoTranin> sorry, I was on another screen
[06:46] <gib> hmm, my remote kind of works, but I I'm not sure the keys are all mapped correctly.  I can't figure out how to back up a level.
[06:47] <MitoTranin> ah, sorry
[06:47] <MitoTranin> dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database I think
[06:47] <MitoTranin> probably need to add a sudo to the beginning of that
[06:47] <MitoTranin> and yes, ssh is fine
[06:48] <clarkey> ok done and so now I start the backend with: /etc/init.d/mythbackend start      ???
[06:49] <clarkey> or just mythbackend command
[06:49] <MitoTranin> just use the command
[06:49] <MitoTranin> so the output comes to your console/terminal
[06:49] <MitoTranin> then pastebin it
[06:49] <MitoTranin> !pastebin
[06:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:51] <clarkey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40600/
[06:52] <MitoTranin> good
[06:52] <MitoTranin> looks like it fixed the error that I saw earlier... try using it and see how it works
[06:53] <clarkey> as in try restarting it?
[06:53] <MitoTranin> yeah
[06:53] <MitoTranin> and then try whatever wouldn't work before
[06:53] <MitoTranin> it should work now
[06:53] <MitoTranin> last time you were getting a database error
[06:53] <MitoTranin> that last post you didn't...
[06:53] <MitoTranin> so it looks like it's fixed
[06:53] <clarkey> ok give me some time, thnx for your help
[06:53] <MitoTranin> np, I'll be here :0
[06:54] <MitoTranin> bah, I can't seem to do :) right these days on the first try!
[07:02] <solarbaby> I was hoping to somehow tell MythTV I have a drive on my network with lots of tv shows, and then I was hoping to tell Myth to go online and download TV Show descriptions and movie info as well.. How should I go about this?
[07:03] <MitoTranin> well...
[07:03] <MitoTranin> are these recordings that have been recorded with MythTV previously, or?
[07:03] <solarbaby> no
[07:03] <solarbaby> they all have the scheme that TheTVDB.com uses
[07:04] <solarbaby> cause my xbox's are setup to grab info like that.. I just need myth to do it too
[07:04] <MitoTranin> then you'd have to import them as standard videos
[07:04] <MitoTranin> and I don't know if you'd be able to get the TV info imported or not... that's be a Q for someone smarter in MythTV than I
[07:04] <solarbaby> Ok.. so I go into some menu and do an import, and then can I tell it that I'd like it to search from thetvdb.com?
[07:05] <solarbaby> WB tgm4883
[07:05] <tgm4883> solarbaby, mythvideo will grab from imdb.com afaik
[07:05] <solarbaby> imdb is good for my movies, but its horrid for my tv shows
[07:05] <tgm4883> you will need to use mythvideo, as if you use the recordings dir you will get no info at all
[07:05] <tgm4883> agree
[07:05] <tgm4883> I don't think there is a plugin for that though
[07:06] <solarbaby> wow..  that is kinda amazing to me
[07:06] <tgm4883> well not really, downloading tv shows is kinda on the side of illegal
[07:06] <tgm4883> in the US anyway
[07:06] <solarbaby> has nothing to do with downloading tv shows.. I compress them right from dvd
[07:07] <tgm4883> also illegal
[07:07] <solarbaby> I have wanky satalite here.. I can't download
[07:07] <solarbaby> its not illegal if you own them
[07:07] <solarbaby> then its considered a backup
[07:07] <tgm4883> anyway, you can do a search for unofficial plugins and if you find one that would work, let me know
[07:08] <solarbaby> my idea is to get all my TV shows onto 233 meg avi files..  so its all accessible with out the clutter of dvd's
[07:08] <tgm4883> actually (huge gray area since it's never been taken to court) it is still illegal
[07:08] <solarbaby> weird
[07:08] <tgm4883> because you have to defeat the encryption in order to back it up
[07:08] <tgm4883> backing up is ok, but defeating encryption is not
[07:08] <tgm4883> you can thank the DMCA for that
[07:08] <solarbaby> I see..
[07:08] <tgm4883> write your congressman
[07:08] <solarbaby> thats so uncool
[07:09] <tgm4883> i agree
[07:09] <tgm4883> write your congressman
[07:09] <tgm4883> they make decisions with the best info they have
[07:09] <solarbaby> If I buy a Statue of Micky Mouse, and I wanna give him lipstick and a tatoo..  it's my choice..  but im defacing a disney character..  Jail Time
[07:09] <solarbaby> hehe
[07:09] <tgm4883> unfortunatly, they usually only get info from lobbiests
[07:10] <solarbaby> yeah
[07:10] <tgm4883> heh, i hadn't seen that
[07:10] <solarbaby> I made it up
[07:10] <tgm4883> ah
[07:10] <MitoTranin> http://www.eff.org/
[07:11] <tgm4883> well most people blame congress, but IMHO, congress doesn't usually get both sides of the story
[07:11] <tgm4883> timer just went off, dinner is done
[07:20] <MitoTranin> interesting
[07:20] <clarkey> MitoTranin: ok so it didnt work :(
[07:20] <MitoTranin> my cousin just got woke up in the middle of the night by a pair of cops, *in* his bedroom, shining flashlights in his eyes
[07:20] <MitoTranin> said that his door was wide open, and was asking if he had heard any screaming
[07:21] <MitoTranin> then when he said no, they asked for his name, and then left
[07:21] <MitoTranin> clarkey: can you post the results of this to pastebin?  tail -n 30 /var/log/mythtv/mythtvbackend.log
[07:22] <clarkey> no such file or directory
[07:22] <MitoTranin> uh, let me check the name
[07:22] <MitoTranin> that was from memory
[07:23] <MitoTranin> tail -n 40 /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[07:25] <clarkey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40602/
[07:25] <clarkey> aha I see the problem it cant access the storage directory
[07:25] <MitoTranin> /storage/tv/nfslockfile.lock: Permission denied Unable to open lockfile! Be sure that '/storage/tv' exists and that both  the directory and that file are writeable by this user.
[07:25] <MitoTranin> yep
[07:26] <clarkey> I set it so that everyone can read and write
[07:26] <MitoTranin> either that, or the lockfile already exists
[07:26] <MitoTranin> if the lockfile exists, delete it
[07:26] <MitoTranin> then restart and try again
[07:26] <clarkey> but why does it start without a hitch when Im logged in then?
[07:27] <MitoTranin> is that storage location on the network?
[07:28] <MitoTranin> the fact that there's an nfs lockfile should mean that it's either shared on the network, or that it is mounted via the network
[07:28] <MitoTranin> if it's on the network, and you're mounting it, then the way that you are mounting it is probably the problem
[07:29] <clarkey> no its a seperate xfs partition that took me ages to set up because of a stupid bug in ubiquity that doesnt let you create large partitions
[07:30] <MitoTranin> ubiquity?
[07:30] <MitoTranin> this isn't mythbuntu?
[07:30] <clarkey> ist that the installer?
[07:30] <MitoTranin> dunno
[07:30] <MitoTranin> ok, so, anyways
[07:30] <MitoTranin> it's a local drive then
[07:30] <clarkey> I think thats the name of the ubuntu installer
[07:30] <clarkey> yea its local
[07:31] <MitoTranin> when it runs on boot, it's running as root
[07:31] <MitoTranin> not your normal user
[07:31] <MitoTranin> when you run it manually, how are you running it?  as root, or your user?
[07:31] <clarkey> normal user
[07:32] <clarkey> should I try it running as sudo?
[07:32] <MitoTranin> first thing I would try is to delete the lockfile and then restart
[07:32] <MitoTranin> see what happens then
[07:32] <MitoTranin> if it still doesn't work, then run sudo su to get to a standard root console
[07:32] <MitoTranin> and then run it manually
[07:33] <clarkey> yea there is a lockfile there
[07:33] <MitoTranin> delete it
[07:33] <MitoTranin> then restart
[07:35] <MitoTranin> brb
[07:36] <clarkey> ok
[07:40] <clarkey> same here brb swaping computers
[07:52] <MythbuntuGuest60> hello
[07:53] <MitoTranin> !ask
[07:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:09] <MythbuntuGuest68> hi.. sorry im using the flash client, so i cant figure how to change my nic.  im stevetv.. recently joined the mythbuntu forum.  i dont like the mapping of my streamzap remote.  where are the config files located to remap it?
[08:10] <MitoTranin> just say /nick MyNameHere
[08:10] <stevetv> :) .. danke.
[08:10] <MitoTranin> my pleasure :)
[08:11] <MitoTranin> as for your other question... tgm4883, tgm4883_laptop, do you know?
[08:11] <stevetv> i presume lirc.conf and lircrc
[08:12] <stevetv> but i was wondering if there was anything else im missing
[08:12] <MitoTranin> I would think so
[08:13] <superm1> stevetv, ~/.lircrc and ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[08:13] <stevetv> uhu.. there are two lircrc files?
[08:13] <MitoTranin> superm1: wasn't there a dynamic mappings button I heard someone talking about?
[08:13] <superm1> stevetv, the mapping is dynamically generated, so if you come up with a better mapping that you'd like to see us target instead, filing a bug on launchpad is the way to go
[08:13] <superm1> attaching the lircrc mapping you liked
[08:13] <superm1> stevetv, yeah ~/.lircrc for all !mythtv, and ~/.mythtv/lircrc for mythtv
[08:14] <superm1> MitoTranin, yeah they are all dynamically mapped
[08:14] <superm1> which makes it hard to have a "one size fits all" scenario
[08:15] <stevetv> forgive me, im unsure of what dynamic mapping means
[08:15] <superm1> stevetv, well foxbuntu and I wrote an app during this cycle called mythbuntu-lirc-generator
[08:15] <superm1> it goes through and takes all the buttons listed in /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[08:15] <superm1> and attempts to assign them to logical commands supported by various apps
[08:16] <stevetv> oh right.  that was done to prevent the need for you to provide info for each of the remotes correcet?
[08:16] <superm1> right
[08:17] <superm1> which unfortunately i mean you can't have a perfect mapping for all remotes, but as long as a majority of them work with a majority of the buttons, you can at least get people up and running initially
[08:17] <superm1> and then the non-ideal mappings people find can be submitted into bug reports
[08:17] <superm1> and better adapted
[08:19] <stevetv> well theres a time saver.  yes ive somewhere got my lircrc from my previous install.  i'll simply copy that over to the two locations you mentioned.  my previous lirc.conf is the same as the one created by mythbuntu
[08:20] <superm1> stevetv, okay cool.  please do file a bug against mythbuntu-lirc-generator attaching your old lircrc configs
[08:20] <superm1> we can try to better target the way you had it for the next cycle
[08:21] <superm1> stevetv, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-lirc-generator
[08:21] <stevetv> of course.
[08:22] <superm1> stevetv, and thanks for helping keeping up with responding to posts on the forums, most appreciated to see users helping other users :)
[08:23] <MitoTranin> superm1: I have my plextor working with video now
[08:23] <MitoTranin> very well even
[08:23] <superm1> MitoTranin, awesome!
[08:23] <superm1> MitoTranin, what'd you end up doing?
[08:24] <MitoTranin> now my only problem is that I don't know if sound is working or not
[08:24] <MitoTranin> I still have to update my wiki, with the solution, but the basic was that I had to install the driver with the pre-patched driver for the 2.6.22 kernel
[08:25] <MitoTranin> without manually telling it to use udev
[08:25] <superm1> MitoTranin, as well as that usbfs workaround
[08:25] <MitoTranin> then I had to enable the proc/bus thing
[08:25] <MitoTranin> yep
[08:25] <superm1> well overall not too difficult an experience then eh?
[08:25] <MitoTranin> and that there got it to where I was able to get this: http://mitopia.net/files/1009_20071013043500.nuv.png
[08:26] <MitoTranin> to fix that, I had to go into the recording profiles and set it to 640x480
[08:26] <MitoTranin> and now video works good
[08:26] <MitoTranin> my only problem is that I'm not getting any sound
[08:27] <superm1> eh sound is overrated anyway
[08:27] <MitoTranin> but I don't know if that's due to my windows codec not working properly (because I'm watching it via my windows machine)
[08:27] <superm1> there's some people on the forums complaining about their sound for ivtv stopping working too
[08:27] <superm1> :)
[08:27] <MitoTranin> or if there is actually no sound
[08:27] <superm1> MitoTranin, oh actually
[08:27] <superm1> MitoTranin, when i used to stream to a windows box i ran into the same thing
[08:27] <superm1> because i didn't have an mpeg2 audio decoder
[08:27] <superm1> MitoTranin, play it with VLC on windows
[08:27] <MitoTranin> yeah, well, this is mpeg4
[08:27] <superm1> or even better "Mythtv player"
[08:28] <localgod13> anyone run a nvidai geforce mx 400
[08:28] <MitoTranin> I just installed 3ivx for the codec
[08:28] <MitoTranin> and dsmyth for the player etc
[08:28] <MitoTranin> but no sound
[08:28] <superm1> MitoTranin, well the nice thing about vlc, all codecs are integrated with the setup
[08:28] <superm1> MitoTranin, so there isn't a chance that you need to fuss trying to find other ones
[08:28] <superm1> for audio and such
[08:29] <MitoTranin> hadn't heard of mythtv player before
[08:29] <superm1> localgod13, well similar cards, but not the mx400 specfically
[08:29] <MitoTranin> previously I used tapeworm
[08:29] <superm1> MitoTranin, its a very cool app
[08:29] <superm1> MitoTranin, my roomate who dual boots uses it when in windows
[08:29] <superm1> someone on the forums pointed me at it
[08:29] <localgod13> i cant seem to get the video out running with that card
[08:30] <MitoTranin> yeah... I have feisty installed too, but I still find myself mainly in windows because my onboard sound is screwed up, so I use a pair of usb headphones
[08:30] <superm1> MitoTranin, http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/
[08:30] <superm1> MitoTranin, usb headphones should work fine in feisty still
[08:30] <superm1> i use a usb headset a lot on my feisty and gutsy boxes
[08:30] <MitoTranin> BUT, I just got a new pair of usb headphones ordered, which work in both windows and linux (the set I have now has zero linux support) so I should soon have sound in linux
[08:30] <superm1> mainly for skype though
[08:30] <MitoTranin> which means I should be able to use the linux-side of my dual boot a LOT more
[08:30] <superm1> MitoTranin, that's surprising to see a headset without usb support in linux
[08:31] <superm1> localgod13, what sort of issues are you having?
[08:31] <MitoTranin> Plantronics DSP-500
[08:31] <MitoTranin> awesome headset
[08:31] <superm1> localgod13, and what have you done so far
[08:31] <MitoTranin> very very terrible linux support
[08:31] <superm1> MitoTranin, i have a plantronics 500 myself too
[08:31] <MitoTranin> the only good way to get it to work in linux is to install skype
[08:31] <superm1> and use it daily
[08:32] <MitoTranin> I can get it to work partially, but it doesn't work well
[08:32] <superm1> er its a "Plantronics .Audio 500"
[08:32] <superm1> i'm not sure if its the same
[08:32] <MitoTranin> yeah, different beast
[08:32] <superm1> MitoTranin, how so?
[08:32] <superm1> o
[08:32] <localgod13> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141890
[08:32] <superm1> what is diff with the dsp-500 and the .Audio 500?
[08:32] <localgod13> when i did that xserver went bye bye
[08:33] <localgod13> i just copy and pasted what he reccomended
[08:33] <localgod13> now i am going to try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480991
[08:34] <MitoTranin> this is mine: http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/cat640035/cat1430032/prod440044
[08:34] <MitoTranin> the .audio series is the new series
[08:38] <localgod13> Ideas/
[08:38] <localgod13> ?
[08:38] <superm1> localgod13, actually this can all be handled via nvidia-settings
[08:38] <superm1> which is available once you have the nvidia proprietary driver installed
[08:38] <superm1> no use going through all this extra hassle hand editing files
[08:38] <localgod13> please tell me how
[08:39] <superm1> localgod13, open up mythbuntu-control-centre
[08:39] <localgod13> please
[08:39] <superm1> and click on the proprietary drivers tab
[08:39] <superm1> there is a button right there for it
[08:39] <MitoTranin> superm1: I forgot to mention that there might be a bug with that
[08:39] <superm1> MitoTranin, ?
[08:40] <superm1> you do realize that we are in a hard freeze now, right?
[08:40] <superm1> :S
[08:40] <MitoTranin> when I was still having troubles installing the beta, the first time I got it installed was without the proprietary drivers
[08:40] <MitoTranin> I installed it post-install via the mcc, but it didn't work right
[08:40] <superm1> which didn't?
[08:40] <MitoTranin> the install
[08:40] <localgod13> i actaully have just ubuntu running right now
[08:40] <MitoTranin> after it installed it, it wanted to restart, so it did
[08:40] <superm1> MitoTranin, via restricted-manager?
[08:40] <localgod13> the next step was going to be installing myth
[08:41] <MitoTranin> I installed it via the mcc
[08:41] <superm1> localgod13, gutsy or feisty?
[08:41] <superm1> MitoTranin, well so that calls restricted manager
[08:41] <superm1> MitoTranin, so if there are issues, they are with restricted manager not mcc
[08:41] <localgod13> fiesty
[08:41] <MitoTranin> yeah, well, still...
[08:41] <MitoTranin> the system never booted into the gui again
[08:41] <superm1> localgod13, i'd really recommend that you go for a regular mythbuntu install
[08:41] <superm1> localgod13, which is gutsy based
[08:42] <superm1> the whole point is that it saves you all this hassle
[08:42] <MitoTranin> and since it was a fresh install, I spent a whole 10 minutes troubleshooting, and installed from scratch again, this time with the drivers installed during the install
[08:42] <MitoTranin> and it worked great
[08:42] <localgod13> damn i have already install fiesty x2
[08:42] <superm1> localgod13, we released the release candidate two days ago, and final release it planned for within the next 1-2 weeks
[08:42] <localgod13> ok fine
[08:42] <superm1> localgod13, trust me, its worth the amount of time you will be saving by how much is automated for you :)
[08:42] <MitoTranin> very very much worth it
[08:43] <superm1> MitoTranin, well also mind you BulletProofX is now active as of the RC
[08:43] <superm1> MitoTranin, so if things fail with a driver, BulletProofX kicks in
[08:43] <localgod13> fug
[08:43] <localgod13> ok
[08:43] <localgod13> http://www.mythbuntu.org/?
[08:43] <localgod13> that one?
[08:43] <MitoTranin> yep
[08:45] <localgod13> ok i already got it
[08:46] <localgod13> fug
[08:46] <localgod13> u sure this is going to work with the old nvidia card?
[08:47] <superm1> localgod13, there are three varieties of drivers available during install
[08:47] <superm1> nvidia_legacyn
[08:47] <superm1> nvidia
[08:47] <superm1> nvidia_new
[08:47] <superm1> along with a list of which cards are supported for each.
[08:47] <superm1> you're probably within either nvidia_legacy or nvidia, you'll see during install
[08:48] <localgod13> im bettin legacy
[08:48] <MitoTranin> what card is it?
[08:48] <MitoTranin> if it's a geforce 2 - geforce 4, it'd be normal
[08:48] <MitoTranin> older than that is legacy
[08:48] <MitoTranin> newer is new
[08:49] <localgod13> geforce mx 400
[08:50] <MitoTranin> superm1: where is the alsa config stuff in mythbuntu?
[08:50] <MitoTranin> I need to make sure which output port my soundcard is set to use
[08:50] <superm1> localgod13, like i said, you'll see during install which card to select
[08:50] <MitoTranin> it has an spdif out and standard out
[08:50] <MitoTranin> localgod13: for that you would probably want legacy
[08:50] <superm1> MitoTranin, there is an applet that you can add to your xfce panel, or alsamixer
[08:50] <superm1> command line
[08:51] <MitoTranin> what's the applet called, because I looked and didn't see it
[08:51] <MitoTranin> is there a reason it's not a default option under the settings menu?
[08:52] <superm1> MitoTranin, i was wondering that myself.
[08:52] <superm1> right click the panel
[08:52] <MitoTranin> yeah
[08:52] <superm1> and there is a sound mixer option
[08:52] <superm1> to add
[08:52] <MitoTranin> add to panel
[08:52] <MitoTranin> I didn't see it, I'll look again though
[08:52] <MitoTranin> volume control is the only sound-related entry
[08:53] <superm1> yeah
[08:53] <superm1> that's it
[08:53] <superm1> add that
[08:53] <superm1> and then you can right click it from your panel
[08:53] <superm1> and you get a full out mixer
[08:53] <MitoTranin> ah, k
[08:53] <MitoTranin> sounds a lot more simplistic
[08:54] <MitoTranin> I'll try it
[08:55] <MitoTranin> hmm
[08:55] <MitoTranin> still not quite what I was expecting, but I'll try it anyways...
[08:56] <MitoTranin> tomorrow though
[08:56] <MitoTranin> (I just wanted to make sure that the system was set to use the spdif as the sound output, and not the analog sound jacks)
[08:56] <MitoTranin> I have to physically move the machine to connect it though
[08:56] <stevetv> localgod, ive used the tv out with that card.  sorry im a long way behind the conversation so it may not be relevent.
[08:56] <MitoTranin> so... bed for now, and that tomorrow!
[08:56] <MitoTranin> night all
[08:57] <localgod13> no it is
[08:57] <localgod13> very
[08:57] <localgod13> care to tell me how
[08:57] <localgod13> stevetv: care to tell me how
[08:57] <stevetv> as suggested, use the legacy drivers? im sorry ive got no idea whats been suggested so ill tell you everything i know
[08:58] <localgod13> anything else?
[09:00] <stevetv> yes, :) .. sorry. im smoking. hard to type too.  the legacy drivers will just work with that card.  from then youre only issue is configuring xorg.conf to do the tv out
[09:00] <stevetv> youre using svideo correct?
[09:00] <localgod13> sure
[09:01] <superm1> localgod13, during mythbuntu installation, tv out is one of the questions that is asked
[09:01] <superm1> and it's configured for you so you wouldnt need to touch the file by hand, or via nvidia-settings even
[09:02] <localgod13> cool
[09:02] <stevetv> ok.. yes superm1 is right.. with a fresh install, you would just need to select the legacy driver and select tv out.  (sorry i didnt read everything... are you doing something different from the standard mythbuntu install)?
[09:02] <localgod13> what are the system reqs for mythbuntu
[09:03] <superm1> $specs
[09:03] <mythbot> Looking for recommended hardware specs?  Look no further than here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=570204
[09:03] <localgod13> ubuntu with myth
[09:04] <localgod13> love the bot
[09:04] <stevetv> localgod.. specifics? ive run very low powered systems fine
[09:05] <localgod13> p4 256 ram
[09:06] <localgod13> geforce m400
[09:06] <stevetv> p4 no problem.  ive run a slot 1 p3 550mhz .. you'd appreciate more ram tho
[09:06] <superm1> yeah specs are very generalized, you can get away with quite a bit
[09:10] <stevetv> superm1 - locate lircrc is giving me four files.. not two. they are :/home/mythtv/.lircrc; /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc; /home/steve/.lircrc; /home/steve/.mythtv/lircrc
[09:10] <superm1> stevetv, don't worry about the ones in /home/mythtv
[09:11] <superm1> you run things as the user 'steve'
[09:11] <superm1> those are just put there in case you ever wanted to switch over to running it as the 'mythtv' user
[09:11] <stevetv> :-) ... i knew that.
[09:19] <solarbaby> I really can't believe nobody has created a script that serached meta info from TheTVDB.com..  the lack of this script just seems wrong
[09:20] <solarbaby> it should be prety simple since TheTVDB.com doesn't depend on scraping..  they deal out their info just like zapt2it used too.. in database format I believe
[09:21] <solarbaby> I wish I could just take my script off the xbox and apply it to Myth
[09:21] <stevetv> solarbaby.. there's on on gossamer
[09:21] <solarbaby> how do I check that out?
[09:22] <stevetv> wait.. letme find the link
[09:22] <solarbaby> stevetv: Thanks
[09:24] <stevetv> oh wait.. this is for the imdb.  it assigns metadata to all your video files in one batch rather than you needing to do it one by one.
[09:24] <solarbaby> I see
[09:24] <solarbaby> yeah..  I was just about to put a proper mythtv frontend on my xbox, but actually I think the xbox frontend is better still
[09:25] <solarbaby> since I have a little python script on the xbox that allows me to schedule recordings I'll be sticking with that, until a script like this can be made available
[09:25] <stevetv> so sorry.. it's not quie what you want.  what specifically are you looking for? (im just interested)
[09:25] <solarbaby> I'm glad to tell you
[09:26] <stevetv> oh .. i figured it out.  a scapper for guide data right?
[09:26] <solarbaby> I have lots of tv shows from my DVD archive..  they are all properly named like "Star Trek The Next Generation 1x01 Pilot.avi
[09:26] <solarbaby> where talking nearly 20 TV shows.. all done up proper like that
[09:26] <stevetv> oh .. so i was wrong.  it's very much like the imdb.. but for tv shows?
[09:27] <solarbaby> well TheTVDB.com doesn't require a scraper.. they give their data out freely through ethical means, no scrapping necessary..  and thats where my xbox gets its TV show info, it also searched IMDB for movies
[09:27] <solarbaby> Yup you got it
[09:28] <solarbaby> so my problem is I have it so good right now, the frontend to myth even as fantastic as it is, is still a tiny step downwards, but in a major way at the same time
[09:28] <solarbaby> as I've been searching google I've been reading other peoples frustration
[09:29] <solarbaby> I know it's just a matter of time..  the scripts are easy enough to copy for someone who knows how
[09:29] <stevetv> well.. if you have the skills, maybe you could modify this http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/291785
[09:29] <solarbaby> I have no interest in gossamer  TheTVDB.com is awesome
[09:36] <localgod13> was i suppose to run the mythdatabase upon install?
[09:37] <solarbaby> you can run the mythdatabase anytime.. as soon as your done with mythtvbackend it asks you if you want to run it
[09:37] <localgod13> should i?
[09:37] <solarbaby> only if you signed up with schedules direct or whatever your using to get your data
[09:37] <localgod13> i mean i did i am just curios
[09:38] <localgod13> i didnt
[09:38] <solarbaby> you should run it
[09:38] <solarbaby> its fun
[09:38] <localgod13> lol
[09:38] <localgod13> i dont plan on using it as a dvr i just want to use it like a vcr
[09:39] <localgod13> no record only playback
[09:39] <solarbaby> then you dont need the database info
[09:39] <localgod13> damn
[09:39] <localgod13> well i got it anyway
[09:39] <solarbaby> database gives you tv guide info
[09:39] <solarbaby> you can't really run myth with out a database
[09:39] <localgod13> is that gonna be a problem?
[09:40] <solarbaby> but you dont have to download info from schedules direct if your not going to use it
[09:40] <solarbaby> I dont think its a problem
[09:40] <solarbaby> I think it should work just fine so long as mysql is setup and working
[09:42] <localgod13> no pic on tv
[09:42] <localgod13> help
[09:43] <localgod13> fug
[09:46] <stevetv> lcoalgod.. can you ssh into your box?
[09:46] <localgod13> no
[09:46] <localgod13> i mean maybe but i dont know how
[09:47] <localgod13> but i cant get to the mythbuntu controll center
[09:48] <stevetv> samba is enabled by default if you completed the install?
[09:48] <localgod13> i dont know
[09:48] <stevetv> .. sorry.. did you complete the install?
[09:49] <localgod13> yes
[09:49] <localgod13> but i am not running windows do i still need samba?
[09:50] <localgod13> i think it froze
[09:50] <localgod13> I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:50] <localgod13> WAHOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[09:50] <stevetv> it what?
[09:51] <localgod13> \only took me all day
[09:51] <stevetv> lol.. only one?
[09:51] <localgod13> we have tv out
[09:51] <stevetv> excellent!
[09:51] <localgod13> i just had to turn it on
[09:51] <stevetv> the tv?
[09:51] <localgod13> i like that editor for the config file
[09:51] <localgod13> no in the config file
[09:52] <localgod13> LOL
[09:52] <localgod13> that would have been dumb
[09:52] <localgod13> um...........
[09:52] <localgod13> i think it got stuck\
[09:52] <localgod13> Pre-scaling theme images 9%
[09:52] <stevetv> it takes awhile
[09:53] <localgod13> hasnt moved in a min
[09:53] <stevetv> with 256mb ram probably a long while.. it'll get there
[09:53] <stevetv> grab a coffee
[09:53] <localgod13> its 4am here not more coffee
[09:53] <stevetv> lol.. tea then
[09:54] <localgod13> i am running on cigarettes and a meatball sub as it is
[09:54] <localgod13> why did i think this was going to be quick and ro smooth
[09:54] <localgod13> still at 9%
[09:54] <stevetv> hmm... numlock key working?
[09:55] <localgod13> nope
[09:55] <localgod13> fug
[09:55] <localgod13> ideas?
[09:55] <localgod13> ctrl+atl+bkspce?
[09:55] <localgod13> fug
[09:57] <localgod13> u still with me?
[09:57] <stevetv>  just reboot man.. cant hurt
[09:58] <stevetv> 0.20.2 is suposed to be better on ram.. but id guess ubuntu uses lots.
[09:58] <localgod13> fug
[09:58] <localgod13> i got some extra sticks laying around
[09:59] <stevetv> 265mb might not cut it.  i had a very unstable box with 265mb..
[09:59] <stevetv> stickem in
[09:59] <localgod13> not all the same though
[10:00] <localgod13> dont wanna let the blue smoke out of the moutherboard
[10:00] <stevetv> try em. imho you want need to reinstall..
[10:00] <localgod13> reinstall?
[10:00] <solarbaby> it doesn't appear that I could put a \\location\directory entry in MythVideo..  should there be a way to access network drives?
[10:01] <localgod13> thats gonna take an hour
[10:01] <localgod13> fug
[10:01] <stevetv> nono.. dont reinstall.. just stick the ram in.
[10:01] <stevetv> if it works.. just modify the partitions to get an appropriate swap
[10:01] <stevetv> oh wait... mythbuntu doesnt have a swap partition i dont think..
[10:01] <stevetv> so just stick it in
[10:02] <localgod13> lol
[10:02] <stevetv> im used to other disto's ... very new at ubuntu :P
[10:02] <localgod13> you sure i am pretty sure they are different series
[10:02] <localgod13> fug
[10:03] <localgod13> but isnt mythdora heavy on the system?
[10:03] <stevetv> no idea.. ive realyl only used knoppmyth
[10:03] <localgod13> fud
[10:07] <localgod13> so the million dollar question why switch to buntu?
[10:08] <localgod13> ok anothe 256 just went in
[10:08] <localgod13> prescalling seems to be stuck at 23% now
[10:08] <localgod13> fug
[10:08] <localgod13> im gonna run a mem test
[10:09] <localgod13> u with me?
[10:10] <solarbaby> can I create a symlink that works with samba?
[11:21] <solarbaby> Ok I messed up and in the Videos section my movies are listed twice each
[11:22] <solarbaby> is there a simple way to clear that database?
[11:34] <solarbaby> forget my question
[12:48] <tafkaz> hi there. thank you for letting me now, that the internal player is also good for avi... worx perfectly now.
[12:48] <DiggThis> superm1: if you are here say yes.
[12:48] <tafkaz> can i use this "Internal" player also as a command in an xterm ?
[12:49] <tafkaz> cause i would like to use it in Myth-Apple-trailers too
[04:29] <MythbuntuGuest24> hello?
[04:29] <laga> hello?
[04:29] <MythbuntuGuest24> hello
[04:30] <laga> $hello
[04:30] <mythbot> Welcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.
[04:32] <superNoob> I am just downloaded the current version. the one with RC at the right?
[04:33] <laga> the RC is the current version, yes
[04:34] <superNoob> ok
[04:34] <superNoob> i am trying again
[04:35] <laga> was there a problem?
[04:35] <superNoob> hey do you think that it is possible to hack my sanso rhapsody e250r?
[04:35] <superNoob> no problem
[04:36] <superNoob> now with out a subcription it locks me out of my mp3 player
[04:37] <laga> no clue, and that question is a little bit off-topic in here ;)
[04:38] <superNoob> i know but i am waiting on my new install
[04:39] <superNoob> i have been trying to install for about 2 weeks. I only can get the weather working
[04:39] <superNoob> last night someone said to reinstall the newest version
[04:40] <superNoob> so i am starting over again
[04:41] <laga> $bug
[04:41] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:41] <laga> hum. weird bot.
[04:42] <laga> superNoob: good luck. you can also post in the forums if something goes wrong, btw
[04:53] <superNoob> well i am new. so i do not know if something goes wrong or it is me
[04:53] <superNoob> that is why i just hang out here and ask questions
[04:53] <superNoob> i have only been messing with linux for about 2 weeks
[04:54] <laga> :)
[04:54] <laga> hope you'll like mythbuntu
[05:09] <superNoob> ok it says launch mythtv setup.. it says i need to complete 4 sections but then it said fill mythdatabase. was that it?
[05:09] <superNoob> i am at configure guide data/backend
[05:10] <laga> where are you located/what type of hardware do you have?
[05:16] <superNoob> texas
[05:16] <superNoob> where are you?
[05:16] <laga> germany
[05:16] <superNoob> step 15 of 15. should i just click finish?
[05:16] <laga> so you're in the US. i suggest you sign up with schedules direct, at least for their 7 day trial...
[05:17] <superNoob> i click launch mythtv setup.
[05:17] <laga> superNoob: yes
[05:17] <laga> you can run mythtv-setup later if you want to
[05:17] <superNoob> ok. i thought it said i needed to do 4 steps
[05:18] <laga> four steps in mythtv-setup.
[05:18] <superNoob> yes
[05:18] <laga> yes, you need to run mythtv-setup in order to watch TV
[05:18] <superNoob> ok
[05:18] <superNoob> i ran it. i hope it worked.
[05:19] <laga> you need to complete all four steps
[05:19] <laga> i think you need to read some documentation... let's see
[05:20] <laga> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Backend_Frontend#head-c1d59df49644c5c6e19daf5e094821a3a0176fcf
[05:20] <laga> superNoob: ^^ read this. it should answer your questions.
[05:47] <sebrock> laga you seem to know your way around :D
[05:47] <sebrock> Got a quick question, thats not really mythrelated
[05:48] <sebrock> when I try to watch /dev/video* with VLC, VLC seems to play it to fast
[05:48] <sebrock> just slowing down makes it way slower
[05:48] <laga> no clue, i dont use VLC
[05:48] <sebrock> so I guess the framerate is not correct or something
[05:48] <sebrock> oh
[05:48] <sebrock> ok worth a try :D
[07:56] <tgm4883> $hello
[07:56] <tgm4883> eh, no mythbot
[07:57] <superm1> therethinker, ^
[07:57] <therethinker> It just keeps crashing randomly...
[07:57] <tgm4883> error message?
[07:57] <therethinker> Nopes
[07:57] <tgm4883> katie-, did you get that installed yesterday or was it still giving you problems?
[07:58] <therethinker> $hello
[07:58] <mythbot> Welcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.
[07:59] <laga> some dns admin at MIT must like CAPS
[07:59] <therethinker> CAPS? WHY!? WHY MIGHT HE OR I LIKE CAPS?
[08:02] <tazgodx_> so i just noticed that my OSD text is like overlapping, any ideas how to fix?
[08:03] <tazgodx_> not overlapping by a lot, but still overlapping. making it hard to read
[08:03] <laga> tazgodx_: known problem...
[08:03] <tazgodx_> oh, ok
[08:03] <laga> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/135216
[08:03] <laga> ^^ tazgodx_
[08:03] <laga> there's a workaround or two
[08:06] <tazgodx_> i don't see a workaround in that post
[08:07] <therethinker> $help
[08:07] <mythbot> Hi, I'm mythbot! You can pick my brain by using $. (See also: $source, $cmdhelp)
[08:07] <therethinker> $source
[08:07] <mythbot> My original source is: http://inamidst.com/phenny/
[08:07] <laga> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/136533
[08:07] <laga> tazgodx_: i meant this ^^sorry
[08:07] <therethinker> tgm4883^^
[08:09] <tazgodx_> laga: does it matter the fact that im actually not using a HDMI cable? im useing S-video out converted to RCA
[08:09] <therethinker> $pastebin
[08:09] <mythbot> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste!)
[08:10] <laga> tazgodx_: maybe you just want to read that bug report including the comments before asking further questions
[08:24] <superNoob> hello
[08:24] <superNoob> ?
[08:25] <tgm4883> hello
[08:27] <superNoob> ok, i got it mythbuntu to work
[08:27] <superNoob> i can play a dvd. now can i rip it. and now have to worry about the dvd in the drive?
[08:28] <superNoob> now* not
[08:28] <tgm4883> I believe so, have you tried?
[08:28] <superNoob> how you start it?
[08:29] <tgm4883> how are you trying to?
[08:29] <superNoob> do i check the select box
[08:29] <superNoob> through import dvd
[08:29] <superNoob> quality iso
[08:30] <superNoob> no sure how to start the ripping
[08:30] <therethinker> $hello
[08:31] <superNoob> oh dang. i am dumb
[08:31] <therethinker> $hello
[08:31] <superNoob> the 0 and the 9 at the bottom
[08:32] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[08:32] <superNoob> how long does a 2hr movie take?
[08:32] <tgm4883_laptop> depends on your hardware
[08:32] <superNoob> how big are the movies?
[08:32] <tgm4883_laptop> I would say about 50% of the length of the movie
[08:33] <tgm4883_laptop> could be less
[08:33] <tazgodx_> ~4GB
[08:33] <superNoob> 4g
[08:33] <superNoob> dang
[08:33] <tgm4883_laptop> tazgodx_, no there smaller than that
[08:33] <tazgodx_> i said "~"
[08:33] <tazgodx_> around
[08:33] <tgm4883_laptop> cause it's only ripping the main movie
[08:33] <superNoob> i only have a 60g hard drive..
[08:33] <tgm4883_laptop> not any extras
[08:33] <tazgodx_> i know
[08:34] <tazgodx_> but if you have a movie that has an extras disk seperate, they try to get a 4GB movie
[08:34] <tazgodx_> i would say its around 3, if you do a perfect rip. you can encode it to make it smaller tho
[08:37] <tgm4883_laptop> true
[08:37] <tgm4883_laptop> althougth the movie could also be much larger
[08:38] <tgm4883_laptop> id say 3 - 7GB
[08:38] <therethinker> can someone kick mythbot?
[08:38] <therethinker> $hello
[08:38] <therethinker> thanks
[08:38] <tgm4883_laptop> well that wasn't a kick
[08:38] <superNoob> all i did was select the default how would i be able to see the size
[08:38] <tgm4883_laptop> i don't know if you can see that in there
[08:38] <tazgodx_> go to your video setting, and it will tell you size
[08:39] <therethinker> Oh, wow... how convenient :P
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> I rip my movies via my desktop
[08:39] <therethinker> There, now he won't die so much
[08:40] <tazgodx_> yeah, i usually rip on my desktop and transfer it over
[08:41] <superNoob> is that harder?
[08:41] <superNoob> how you do that?
[08:41] <tgm4883_laptop> i think it's easier
[08:41] <tgm4883_laptop> i use k9copy
[08:41] <tgm4883_laptop> $hello
[08:41] <mythbot> Welcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.
[08:42] <rob-e> hey if i wanted to have a box with mythtv and use t as a small web server, what would you recommend doing?
[08:43] <MythbuntuGuest40> does anyone know how to force mythbuntu to use a specific sound mixer? for some reason i think its defaulting to a tv cards mixer instead of my sound card so i do not get any audio?
[08:43] <tazgodx_> web server? what are you hoping to host?
[08:43] <rob-e> some files for friends or whatever, nothing major
[08:43] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest40, you can set that up in settings > general settings
[08:44] <tgm4883_laptop> rob-e, /var/www
[08:44] <tazgodx_> in the setup there is an audio option
[08:44] <tazgodx_> rob-e: mythbuntu installed mythweb, which installs apache, so a server is basically set up for you
[08:44] <rob-e> sweet
[08:44] <tazgodx_> as tgm4883_laptop says, put your HTML files in /var/www
[08:45] <rob-e> and then just give them my ip huh?
[08:45] <MythbuntuGuest40> i think its more of an ubuntu issue.  i can get it to work in a standard ubuntu install by using the appropriate control panel applet but this is not present when using mythbuntu?
[08:45] <tazgodx_> yeah, or get a dynamic ip
[08:45] <rob-e> awesome
[08:45] <rob-e> i thought it would be hard
[08:45] <tazgodx_> you can go to like no-ip.com and sign up for a free dynamic ip like rob-e.no-ip.net
[08:46] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest40, you can tell mythtv which sound card to use
[08:46] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest40, you can also run alsamixer from the command line
[08:46] <rob-e> ok
[08:46] <rob-e> youre a true mythbuster
[08:47] <tazgodx_> there is also a program on no-ip.com so it continually updates your ip for your dynamic link.
[08:47] <MythbuntuGuest40> cheers.  it appears each time i restart sometimes the audio works and other times it doesn't is this linux detecting things in different orders?
[08:47] <tgm4883_laptop> rob-e, you may need to do some setup on your router too
[08:47] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest40, what does uname -a output?
[08:47] <superNoob> ok i think it ripped.. how i watch it?
[08:47] <rob-e> o, yes, open up some ports huh
[08:48] <tgm4883_laptop> superNoob, did you rip it in the frontend?
[08:48] <rob-e> comeon no upnp?
[08:48] <superNoob> i think so
[08:48] <tazgodx_> port 80 is normal port for webhosting to forward to your PC
[08:48] <superNoob> import dvd
[08:48] <tgm4883_laptop> rob-e, some routers don't like static ip addresses and upnp
[08:49] <MythbuntuGuest40>  2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Wed Oct 10 06:00:47 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:49] <rob-e> dont most isps block that so i have to foreward it to another?
[08:49] <tazgodx_> superNoob: go to main menu and go to media library/videos
[08:49] <tgm4883_laptop> rob-e, no
[08:49] <tgm4883_laptop> you would have to listen on another
[08:49] <tgm4883_laptop> and forward to port 80
[08:49] <rob-e> o, i thought i read something like that
[08:49] <superNoob> it says no files found
[08:49] <tgm4883_laptop> some isps do block
[08:49] <tazgodx_> yeah, tell people to connect to yo.ur.i.p:8080
[08:49] <tgm4883_laptop> superNoob, where are you looking
[08:50] <superNoob> the dvd i just ripped
[08:50] <tgm4883_laptop> rob-e, try port 80 first
[08:50] <rob-e> sweet
[08:51] <tgm4883_laptop> superNoob, well your wont be able to use your eyes to look at the dvd, thats what dvd lasers are for.  Where are you looking in the frontend to try to play the already ripped dvd
[08:51] <tazgodx_> superNoob: go to utilities setup/video manager, and see if it lists your rip there
[08:51] <superNoob> yes
[08:51] <tgm4883_laptop> it lists it there?
[08:51] <tgm4883_laptop> then go to myth video and see if it is there now
[08:51] <tazgodx_> ok, then it should show up in media library/watch videos
[08:52] <superNoob> yes. i does
[08:52] <superNoob> it says .iso? is that correct?
[08:52] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[08:52] <tazgodx_> yea
[08:53] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest40, I use to have that issue too.  Have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:53] <superNoob> i can even edit the info
[08:53] <superNoob> i do not see it in media library
[08:53] <tgm4883_laptop> superNoob, does it play
[08:53] <superNoob> hmmm
[08:54] <MythbuntuGuest40> tgm4883, will give it a try - if i use alsamixer the 1st,2nd device is my tv cards the 3rd device is my actual sound card.  can i use alsamixer to change my default?
[08:54] <tazgodx_> hit the menu button on the watch videos menu
[08:54] <tazgodx_> look at your filters
[08:54] <superNoob> yes it did...........YOU GUYS ARE the GREATEST.. i know my problems sound small to you guys.. .but man yall are great
[08:55] <tazgodx_> ok
[08:55] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest40, im not sure, although you should be able to tell mythtv which card to use
[08:56] <tazgodx_> rob-e: just be carefull with your webserver, if someone goes to http://yourip/mythweb they can alter your video recordings.
[08:57] <MythbuntuGuest40> okay thanks. dist-upgrade finds no packages
[08:57] <rob-e> really?
[08:57] <tgm4883_laptop> rob-e, yes, you should add a password for mythweb
[08:57] <rob-e> ok
[08:57] <tazgodx_> yeah, add a password for the mythweb dir.
[08:57] <superNoob> when i went to video manager..it updated  then when i want back it was there. I am watching my dvd
[08:57] <superNoob> now i got to go watch cowboy game
[08:57] <superNoob> see yall
[08:57] <rob-e> pfft cowboys...
[08:58] <tazgodx_> you can add a password for mythweb through the MCC
[08:58] <tazgodx_> bears game is where its at!
[08:58] <rob-e> mcc?
[08:58] <tazgodx_> $mcc
[08:58] <mythbot> Mythbuntu Control Centre - a admin panel for MythTV - Created and maintained by the mythbuntu team. http://www.mythbuntu.org/about
[08:58] <rob-e> okay
[08:58] <rob-e> go packers
[08:58] <rob-e> haha
[08:58] <tazgodx_> omg!!!!
[08:58] <tazgodx_> im helping a packers fan?!?!
[08:59] <therethinker> AHHH
[08:59] <rob-e> haha, yes
[08:59] <therethinker> $whack rob-e
[08:59] <mythbot> /me whacks rob-e
[08:59] <tazgodx_> $poke rob-e
[08:59] <therethinker> That's for liking the packers
[08:59] <mythbot> /me stabs rob-e violently with a rusty spoon
[08:59] <rob-e> haha
[08:59] <therethinker> $hug rob-e, he's a packer's fan!
[08:59] <mythbot> If I had emotions, I'd laugh! No one would ever hug rob-e,!
[08:59] <rob-e> i like like 5 mins from the stadium
[09:00] <therethinker> I'm like 5 minutes from the Patriots stadium
[09:00] <tgm4883_laptop> I like like the 49ers
[09:00] <tazgodx_> i like like the Bears
[09:00] <rob-e> well we all know the bears just suck
[09:00] <tazgodx_> i like like 35 mins from soldiers field
[09:01] <tazgodx_> haha, we will see at the end of the year whos doing better :)
[09:01] <rob-e> ya
[09:01] <tazgodx_> i did enjoy watching the bears break that undefeated packers record! :)
[09:01] <rob-e> whats the deal with mythbuntu and gutsy?
[09:01] <tazgodx_> what do you mean?
[09:01] <rob-e> are they updating in 4 days also?
[09:02] <tazgodx_> well they went into RC the same day
[09:02] <tazgodx_> didn't they? tgm4883_laptop?
[09:02] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[09:03] <rob-e> ooh
[09:03] <rob-e> or ohh
[09:04] <rob-e> nanananana... mythbusters
[09:04] <MitoTranin> quick question for you tgm4883_laptop:  what remote drivers/setup etc should I choose for this:  http://irblaster.info/receiver.html
[09:05] <rob-e> so my plan is to use a wiimote as the mouse, i think itll be sweet
[09:05] <therethinker> That'd be cool
[09:05] <therethinker> Make sure you enable the pointer... its hidden by default
[09:05] <rob-e> and somewhere in there a giant projector too
[09:06] <rob-e> *squints at tv*
[09:06] <tazgodx_> one of these days im gonna plug in my other 2 tuners, and set up my cable box, and plug in my internet
[09:06] <tazgodx_> its all on my list of things to do
[09:06] <tgm4883_laptop> MitoTranin, good question
[09:06] <MitoTranin> tgm4883_laptop: yeah... that's what I said :0
[09:06] <MitoTranin> :)
[09:06] <rob-e> well thanks for all the help, ill c ya
[09:08] <tazgodx_> so can anyone explain why you have to go to the video manager first before it shows new videos on the mythvideo menu?
[09:08] <tgm4883_laptop> uh, thats the way it is setup :)
[09:08] <tazgodx_> haha
[09:09] <tazgodx_> why don't they just like call the video manager to search for all videos before you open up the mythvideo menu?
[09:10] <tgm4883_laptop> why don't you just tell video browser to browse files by default :)
[09:10] <tazgodx_> oh i can do that?
[09:10] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[09:10] <tazgodx_> well, i iddn't know that, ill check that out soon
[09:11] <tgm4883_laptop> setup > setup > media settings > video settings > general settings
[09:11] <tgm4883_laptop> screen 2
[09:11] <tgm4883_laptop> option 2, 3, and 4
[09:12] <tgm4883_laptop> also, who was asking me about tv shows and scanning for info?
[09:12] <tazgodx_> sweet, thanks
[09:13] <MitoTranin> from the files?
[09:13] <MitoTranin> I think that was SuperNoob
[09:14] <MitoTranin> nope, checked the backlog, it was solarbaby
[09:14] <therethinker> Is the ADSTech Mini Dual TV supported by Mythtv?
[09:15] <MitoTranin> ugh... ok... so someone help me out with this
[09:15] <MitoTranin> my video didn't look the greatest on my monitor, so I switched it from Qt to OpenGL
[09:16] <MitoTranin> now the menu items don't show up, it's just the background
[09:16] <MitoTranin> so by memory I go through the menu's to the same location, and change it back to Qt
[09:16] <MitoTranin> it reloads, but it's still the same problem
[09:16] <MitoTranin> I restarted the system to give it a fresh start, and it's the same problem...
[09:16] <MitoTranin> I go back in to the same settings, and it's back to opengl
[09:17] <MitoTranin> anyone have any idea why 1) it's like this, and 2) why I can't change it back?
[09:29] <tazgodx_> anyone know if the mplayer plugin for firefox has hotkeys for fullscreen and play and pause?
[09:29] <superm1> totem's ff plugin does (and it works out very nice actually now in gutsy)
[09:29] <tazgodx_> totem's you say huh? ill try that i guess
[09:35] <MitoTranin> superm1: can you confirm a bug for me, so I can know that it's not just my system having problems before I make a bug report?
[09:35] <superm1> what's that?
[09:35] <MitoTranin> I switched from Qt to OpenGL today
[09:35] <superm1> MitoTranin, does your card support it?
[09:36] <superm1> didy ou install proprietary driver?
[09:36] <MitoTranin> when I did, all the menus are gone, and just the background shows
[09:36] <MitoTranin> I did install the proprietary driver
[09:36] <MitoTranin> and it's a geforce 4mx
[09:36] <MitoTranin> so it should support OpenGL
[09:36] <superm1> sounds like the driver isn't working then right now.
[09:36] <superm1> close out myth
[09:36] <superm1> and pull open a terminal
[09:36] <superm1> and type mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt
[09:36] <superm1> to start it with Qt once
[09:37] <superm1> go through and save it as Qt again
[09:37] <superm1> and then sort out your driver issues to find out why 3d isn't on
[09:37] <MitoTranin> well, that's the actual bug part
[09:37] <MitoTranin> I got back to the menus via memory
[09:37] <MitoTranin> got back to the screen where I can choose Qt or opengl
[09:37] <MitoTranin> I changed it back, but it's still using opengl
[09:38] <MitoTranin> so I restarted the computer
[09:38] <MitoTranin> and the menus are still gone... I went back to the same screen, and it still says opengl in there
[09:38] <superm1> you must not have saved the setting
[09:38] <superm1> start it how i said
[09:38] <superm1> and make it all the way through those menus
[09:38] <superm1> you can't hit escape while in the appearance section
[09:38] <superm1> you have to hit enter through them all
[09:38] <MitoTranin> I hit enter all the way through
[09:39] <MitoTranin> doing it again though just for fun :)
[09:40] <MitoTranin> weird... that time it worked
[09:40] <MitoTranin> oh well
[09:40] <MitoTranin> another quick Q, this one I could probably google but just haven't yet
[09:41] <MitoTranin> when I rebooted, hotplug didn't pickup my tuner right away, I had to disconnect it, reconnect it, then load the firmware manually
[09:41] <MitoTranin> any idea how to make sure that hotplug finds it and loads the firmware properly?
[09:42] <superm1> i'm not sure how its handled by hotplug
[09:56] <Dawson64> superm1 I've got the menu up on my tv now but i'm getting "unable to initialize video yet"  any ideas
[09:57] <MitoTranin> Dawson64: he just said in another channel that he'd be out for a bit just 3 minutes before you messaged..
[09:58] <Dawson64> thanks
[09:58] <MitoTranin> np
[10:36] <localgod11> i got a problem- i get mythbuntu installed but it hangs at around 16% when i try to load the frontend
[10:37] <localgod11> running 384 ram
[10:37] <localgod11> p4
[10:37] <localgod11> o yah its sodimm ram btw
[10:38] <localgod11> fug
[10:42] <solarbaby> oops another night of falling asleep in the computer chair
[10:42] <solarbaby> ah well I feel great
[10:56] <localgod11> i got a problem- i get mythbuntu installed but it hangs at around 16% when i try to load the frontend
[10:56] <localgod11> running 384 ram with a p4
[10:59] <localgod11> help
[11:00] <solarbaby> sounds icky
[11:00] <localgod11> thanks
[11:00] <localgod11> idea what could be happening
[11:00] <localgod11> ?
[11:00] <solarbaby> I've never had that problem
[11:00] <localgod11> i was told i need more ram
[11:00] <solarbaby> oh how much you got?
[11:01] <localgod11> 384
[11:01] <localgod11> sodimm
[11:01] <solarbaby> 256 isn't enough..  384 might do it..  shrug...  Im using 512 and everything is real smooth
[11:01] <localgod11> naf still nhangs
[11:01] <localgod11> fug
[11:01] <localgod11> running memtest now
[11:01] <solarbaby> still even with 256 it should install with out those kind of problems..  but you might actually have bad ram.. that would do that
[11:02] <solarbaby> I'd take one of your ram chips out.. and try installing
[11:07] <tgm4883> 256 is enough
[11:07] <tgm4883> localgod11, did you verify the ISO, burn the CD slow and verify the CD?
[11:25] <solarbaby> tgm4883: next big thing I need to do is get my USBUIRT to change the channels on my Dish Network Satalite box
[11:25] <solarbaby> tgm4883: if its smarter to buy a device that works easier I'll do that
[11:25] <tgm4883> solarbaby, im not sure of an easy way to do that currently
[11:26] <tgm4883> afaik, ir blasting is a PITA right now
[11:26] <solarbaby> I see
[11:26] <solarbaby> I bet all the smart ones are working on it
[11:28] <tgm4883> yea, but I don't know if there be an easy solution until hardy
[11:28] <solarbaby> easy or not..  I would like to make it work :)
[11:28] <solarbaby> so far there just aren't any good directions out there
[11:36] <solarbaby> what do you mean until hardy?
[11:40] <tgm4883> as in gutsy +1
[11:43] <solarbaby> oh so we're waiting for hardy release?
[11:44] <tgm4883> eh, i think it's more we can't really change anything after today
[11:44] <solarbaby> weird
[01:11] <localgod11> anyone around?
[01:15] <localgod11> hello?
[01:15] <therethinker> $hello
[01:15] <mythbot> Welcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.
[01:15] <localgod11> my mythbuntu box freezes upon start up
[01:15] <localgod11> its starts loading the front end then gets stick at about 36%
[01:16] <localgod11> ----------newb
[01:18] <localgod11> ideas?