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lifelessmoin moin AfC12:29
AfClifeless: Gutten tag12:29
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AfCSo I've had it bashed into me that revisions (in Bazaar speak) are not patches (in the Darcs sense of the word) but rather state markers, which explains somewhat why attempting to cherry pick "a revision" makes no sense in bzr12:33
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igcmorning all12:34
lifelesshi igc12:35
AfCI am, however, still left with the ... desire ... to backport a series of patches which happen to be uniquely identified by the revision (in pseudo Bazaar speak revision-1..revision I guess)12:35
igchi lifeless12:35
lifelessAfC: right, we have 'before:REVISION' as a way to grab the delta from the left most parent of a revision to the revision12:35
AfCand wondering how to actually articulate this. Is `bzr merge --force -r $whatever` for a series going to work?12:36
AfCbefore:12:36
AfChuh12:36
lifelessbzr help revisionspec12:36
luksthere is also -c in 0.9212:37
AfClifeless: I gotta tell you that that page isn't as helpful as you gentleman and ladies seem to think it is. It makes perfect sense as a reference once you already know what everything there does.12:37
lifelessoh hmm, before: doesn't give you a delta, it just gives you the -112:37
lukswhich is just before:R..R12:37
lifelessluks: only in some commands12:37
AfClifeless: although I suspect I feel that way because I still find myself fighting the definition of a revision versus the change that happens between that revision and its predecessor.12:39
AfCAh. So `bzr diff -r before:374..374` is what I need to type when I'm mentally thinking "bzr diff -r 374"12:41
AfCHm12:41
jelmerAfC: or "bzr diff -c 374"01:10
jelmerargh, I should read backlog01:10
jelmernever mind me01:10
AfCjelmer: :)01:11
AfCthat's ok01:11
AfCI was actually about to dig to find out what -c was short for01:11
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lifelessbbiab, train.01:40
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igclifeless, poolie, spiv: my plan for today is reviews, reviews, reviews02:55
igcany preferences on order?02:56
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igcreviewing the Repository.is_write_locked patch now03:12
lifelessback03:18
lifelessno mail or browser for now;03:18
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pooliehello03:34
jmlhello poolie03:34
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i386lifeless: http://wiki.mozilla.org/JavaScript:ActionMonkey03:44
ubotuNew bug: #152811 in bzr "typeerror in globbing.match" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15281103:45
lifelessi386: your project?03:49
i386no03:49
i386useful for mine03:49
lifelessah03:50
i386its basically a JIT engine for JS03:50
lifelesscool03:50
pooliehello jml,03:50
pooliei38603:50
i386due out for FF 403:50
i386hey poolie03:50
lifelessspiv: yo03:51
spivlifeless: yoyo03:51
lifelessreconcile performance; are you across that or want to talk?03:52
spivlifeless: I seem to have it running tolerably quickly, at the expense of memory.03:52
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spivlifeless: (15 minutes, 700MB for bzr.dev @ revno 2000)03:53
lifeless700MB wow03:53
lifelessthats immense03:53
spivYeah.03:53
lifelesswhere is it all going03:53
spivThat's a good question.  I haven't dug; I'm not sure how much of that is the explicit caching I do of get_text_version/get_inventory/get_parents/get_heads, and how much is lost elsewhere (the transaction?).03:54
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spivI can probably improve the memory consumption by clearing the get_text_version cache after checking a file-id.03:58
spivlifeless: most of the memory appears to be due to holding all the inventories in memory.04:08
lifelessthe actual inventories, or the summary you create ?04:09
lifelessthe former is huge, the latter should be significantly smaller04:09
spivHmm, I was just dumbly holding onto the actual inventory.04:11
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spivReading in ~14000 inventories takes a while.04:29
spivMemory use seems a lot more reasonable on this run, though.04:29
spiv(Also, strace shows lots of calls to open the inventory.knit file, and to our good friend futex...)04:31
lifelessyou should use the iter_inventories or even iter_inventories_delta calls04:31
spivlifeless: I can't seem to find those04:33
spivlifeless: memory use now down to about ~110MB.04:39
lifelessyay tuning04:40
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spivHmm, it's creeping up a little, but I doubt it'll exceed ~130MB.04:41
spivI think that's good enough for now.04:41
lifelessiter_revision_*04:41
spiviter_rev_trees?04:42
lifelessprobably04:43
lifelesswill open the inventory knit less often04:43
lifelessand be massively faster04:43
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AfCpoolie: ping04:43
spivIt's down to 6m37s already with the memory consumption reduced.04:44
spivI'll try out iter_rev_trees now.04:44
poolie_spiv: hi04:44
poolie_afc, hi04:45
AfCpoolie: regarding 139478, I think we hit it last weekend when trying to do bzr push (!) ... the remote repo would suddenly stack trace and then we had to remote break-lock04:45
poolie_bug 13947804:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 139478 in bzr "UnlockableTransport running update in checkout of readonly branch" [High,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13947804:45
poolie_so, not with that awn branch?04:46
spivlifeless: repo.revision_trees actually :)04:46
AfCpoolie_: no, it was 0.9104:49
poolie_i mean, i presume you were using bzr on your own branch, which is unrelated to the awn window manager?04:50
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AfCpoolie: (correct)04:54
AfCpoolie: I got him to c&p the stack trace; I'll see if I can get him to post it somewhere.04:58
AfCpoolie: anyway, just FYI04:58
ubotuNew bug: #152826 in bzr "order-dependent test failure in test_add_reports" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15282605:05
lifelessigc: new version up05:05
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spiv(and lunch)05:07
pooliethanks afc, it's useful to know it's not just that branch05:08
spivlifeless: saved another 40s.  5m 37s/120M to reconcile ~14000 revisions now.  I think that's good enough; I'll mail the list.  Thanks for your help.05:08
lifelessnp05:08
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lifelessuhm seriously07:22
igcyes ...07:22
lifelessI can't see your review yet07:24
lifelessoh nope, there it comes07:24
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lifelessigc: one thing comes to mind, but I don't know if the code is clean enough yet to tackle08:10
lifelessigc: which is, when code working with a pack repo encounters NoSuchFile08:11
lifelessit should:08:11
lifeless  - refresh the pack-names list08:11
lifeless - check if the file it couldn't access is one that belongs to a pack dropped from the list since it last read it08:11
lifeless - if not, raise08:11
lifeless - otherwise, add new packs, and drop the dropped packs as needed08:12
lifelessthis should be bounded at the pack repository layer08:12
lifelesse.g. implemented by try: blocks in knit.PackAccess, knit.KnitGraphIndex, pack_repo.create_pack_from_pack08:12
lifelessthis is the sort of error we'll see if that is not done:08:13
lifelessUsing saved location: sftp://rookery/~/public_html/baz2.0/integration08:13
lifelessbzr: ERROR: No such file: u'/home/robertc/source/baz/.bzr/repository/packs/7790115835933f890290c0367db37b93.pack': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: u'/home/robertc/source/baz/.bzr/repository/packs/7790115835933f890290c0367db37b93.pack'08:13
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lifelessigc: call me on my moobile in 3 minutes?08:19
lifeless~.08:19
poolieigc: ping?08:40
igchi poolie08:55
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lifelesspoolie: any luck debugging ?09:52
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poolielifeless: no breakthrough yet10:00
igcpoolie: you after me earlier?10:01
lifelessdoes my bzr work on your data?10:01
mwhudsonwow, the packs branch has some crazy revnos :)10:03
poolieno, it doesn't10:03
mwhudson"changes from 2592.1.25.2.7.1.28.1.6.1.3.1.9.2.1.3.74.1.31.3.18.1.9.1.2.1.12.1.8.1.46.1.18.1.1.2.14"10:03
lifelessmwhudson: weeeee long lived branches10:03
lifelessmwhudson: is it faster  ?10:03
pooliei think we should truncate them when they get too long10:03
poolielifeless: i'm trying to determine if there's actually a problem on disk10:04
lifelesspoolie: I would do the following10:04
lifelesswith my bzr branch10:04
mwhudsonlifeless: not sure yet10:04
poolieor just in loading it in10:04
lifelessgrab both repos10:04
pooliei think the problem has occurred in moving data from your pack branch into my knit repo10:04
lifelessthen grab the same knit object from both10:04
pooliebecause in my other repo, the problem is not evident10:05
lifelessset intersection to get the versions in common10:05
lifelessthen compare the raw_data blocks10:05
lifelesstheres an api to give you the raw gzipped10:05
lifelessdata10:05
lifelessone expects them to be the same, except if you've run andrew's reconcile10:05
lifelessaarons/andrews10:06
lifelessI'm calling it a day; you should head to that bbq :)10:08
pooliehave a good night10:12
mwhudsonlifeless: first impressions of loggerhead w/packs performance are pretty good10:16
mwhudsonseems a bit faster than knits10:17
lifelesssweet10:17
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mwhudsonwill measure and post numbers to the list later10:18
igcbbl10:18
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lifelessmwhudson: thanks!10:27
lifelessnight all10:27
spivLooks like reconciling bzr.dev takes exactly 300MB of memory.10:29
pooliehm, that's not so great10:34
pooliefor larger trees10:34
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spivYeah.  I suspect it can be better.  I'm hoping this is Good Enough for now.10:37
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mwhudsonhm, producing the annotate view of builtins.py with packs takes over two minutes11:39
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poolienot so good11:48
pooliehow about from the command line?11:48
mwhudsonseems about the same11:52
mwhudsonoh no, about a minute11:52
mwhudsonstill not exactly snappy :)11:53
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yogeshhello, I have installed bzr through eclipse update manager. I am using eclipse3.1. After finishing successfully, when I go to preferences->team->bazar getting error,plug-in in " org.vcs.bazar.eclipse.ui"  was unable to instantiate class  org.vcs.bazar.eclipse.ui.bazarpreferences page12:13
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mwhudsonspiv: you forgot something12:31
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lifelessmwhudson: expected fallout, for now12:40
sabdflwhy is annotate slower with packs? is it because we no longer cache the relevant data?12:41
spivmwhudson: oh?12:47
spivmwhudson: oh, gar.12:47
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yogeshhello, I have installed bzr through eclipse update manager. I am using eclipse3.1. After finishing successfully, when I go to preferences->team->bazar getting error,plug-in in " org.vcs.bazar.eclipse.ui"  was unable to instantiate class  org.vcs.bazar.eclipse.ui.bazarpreferences page01:37
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Odd_BlokeVerterok: ^ is related to you, I think?01:42
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abentleymwhudson: ping03:07
mwhudsonabentley: hi03:08
abentleyDid you get my mail?03:08
mwhudsonoh, about loggerhead/cart integration?03:09
mwhudsonyes03:09
jdublifeless: http://www.cs.lth.se/home/Calle_Lejdfors/pygpu/03:09
abentleymwhudson: Any suggestions about the right approach?03:09
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abentleyI assume you want loggerhead to remain independant of Cart.03:11
mwhudsonabentley: no particular feelings03:11
mwhudsonabentley: yes03:11
mwhudsonabentley: do you think you'll be making changes to loggerhead itself, or just plugging its views in somewhere?03:11
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abentleyWell, I expect to make some changes.  How much will depend on Loggerhead's data model.03:13
sabdflwhere can i find the best pack branch for testing?03:14
abentleysabdfl: http://people.ubuntu.com/%7Erobertc/pack-repository.knits/ is the latest in knit format03:16
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sabdflthanks abentley03:16
mwhudsonabentley: bits of the code will probably make your eyes hurt :)03:16
abentleyOnce you have that, there's a pack version that's more up-to-date.  But I forget where that is.03:16
mwhudson~robertc/baz2.0/repository i think03:17
abentleyBut you prolly have to bootstrap with the knit version.03:17
mwhudsonon the same server03:17
Penghttp://people.ubuntu.com/%7Erobertc/baz2.0/repository/03:17
PengErr, right.03:17
abentleymwhudson: Yeah, no worries.03:18
abentleyI think I'll start by just importing loggerhead, and see how far I get.03:18
mwhudsonabentley: let me know of any particular problems you find03:18
abentleyOkay, will do.03:19
mwhudsonabentley: so you're aware, i plan to redo the css and general look pretty soon03:19
mwhudsonand at some point redo the templates in genshi03:19
mwhudsonand maybe dump turbogears, though i'm not so sure about that03:20
mwhudsoncherrpy has it's annoying bits03:20
abentleyOkay.  I have mixed feelings about genshi.  I really don't like what they did with match rules03:20
abentleyBut the error handling is lots nicer.03:20
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mwhudsonand it appears to not have "being extremely slow" as a design goal :)03:20
abentleyAnyhow, I should get back to work, but thanks for the chat.03:23
mwhudsonabentley: no worries, sorry for not replying to the mail03:27
abentleymwhudson: no worries.03:28
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GaryvdMHi03:32
GaryvdMI've been thinking about how to solve the can't update a remote tree problem03:33
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GaryvdMI put an idea together, and would like to get some opinions.03:34
GaryvdMVery brief spec here:  http://bazaar-vcs.org/DraftSpecs/RestingTree03:34
sabdfljdub: that pygpu stuff looks awesome03:54
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johndoIs there a way to have bzr include cvs style headers in files?03:56
jdubsabdfl: almost worth buying nvidia!03:58
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johndois there a way to get bzr to support ident?04:03
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sabdflabentley: once i've merged in the pack stuff from those two addresses, how do i upgrade or create a repo in pack format?04:26
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abentleysabdfl: Use --format=experimental with init/upgrade/init-repo04:28
sabdflthanks abentley04:31
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Solarionpardon my ignorance, but I have the following scenario I need to make work: I have a branch of an svn repo, and a body of code (and revision history) I wish to merge into it.  How do I go about doing so?05:12
Solarion"body of code" is in bzr05:12
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Solarionnobody?05:18
Odd_BlokeSolarion: You'll want to look at bzr-svn.05:19
SolarionOdd_Bloke: the svn portion is more or less irrelevant.  bzr's support of svn is supoerb.  The problem is that I want to merge in a new sub-project into a larger project, complete with its revision history.05:20
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Solarion(the svn part is there for completeness, and as a wrinkle in case svn messes up. :)05:21
Odd_BlokeSolarion: OK, I'm not entirely sure what you're asking and am not familiar enough with bzr-svn to know how to go about much.05:24
Odd_BlokeIf jelmer were about, he'd be the person to ask...05:25
SolarionOdd_Bloke: The foremost matter would be how to merge two disparate codebases without losing revision history05:25
Lo-lan-doOdd_Bloke: I think jelmer is hiding from me...05:25
Odd_BlokeSolarion: TBH, I'm not sure if it's possible.  _However_, I don't want to make that statement because I'm not sure.05:26
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SolarionOdd_Bloke: that would make me sad.  :(05:26
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Solarionhey bratsche05:27
bratscheHi Solarion05:28
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Solarionmerging two disparate branches would be a nice feature, FWIW05:40
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ubotuNew bug: #152974 in bzr "merge should allow merging in a wholly new codebase" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15297406:00
Solarionyeah, that one's mine.  :)06:13
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SolarionSo why am I getting errors from a failed operation?06:33
Solarionit only seems to happen when I have -r0..-1, as recommended in the bug06:33
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abdelrahmanhello12:00
abdelrahmanI have a question12:00
abdelrahmancan bazaar restrict access to the code by username and password?12:00
jam-laptopabdelrahman: we generally do that using the system permissions12:02

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