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hadsHey all, I just discovered a bug in Dolphin that may trap quite a few people. Confirmed by someone else in #kubuntu01:12
nosrednaekimindeed01:13
hadsTo reproduce; in a directory with a large number of subdirs, scroll down past the first 'page' and then try to drag a subdir to a different subdir. The information pane reports the drop target which would be on the first 'page' and the drop goes to the incorrect subdir.01:13
gnomefreakfile a bug it will attract more people01:14
hadsSure, I was just being lazy.01:14
nosrednaekimactually, I find it will default to the top folder viewable01:15
nosrednaekim(and not go off the default)01:16
hadsnosrednaekim: Interesting, here it seems to follow the pattern of where the folder icon would be on the first page of results.01:17
hadsnosrednaekim: #152788 in case you're interested.01:25
nosrednaekimok01:25
nosrednaekimbug 15278801:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 152788 in dolphin "Dolphin drag and drop targets wrong directory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15278801:26
nosrednaekimhads: if you go to #ubuntu+1 you might find more people to confirm it.01:28
hadsSure01:28
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maybebabyhas anyone got kde4 beta running on current gutsy?  the instructions from #kubuntu don't work02:56
maybebabywould love to give it a try02:57
nosrednaekimmaybebaby: they worked for me... where did it fail for you?02:57
maybebabykdebase-workspace didn't install02:58
nosrednaekimwhat is the error?02:58
nosrednaekimI heard that complaint before..02:58
maybebabyregular unmet dependencies02:59
nosrednaekimwhich are..02:59
maybebabyyou want me to list them here?02:59
nosrednaekim!paste | maybebaby here would do03:00
ubotumaybebaby here would do: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:00
maybebabykde4base and related03:00
maybebabyregardless its circular and unresolvable03:00
maybebabyto the person seeking thunderbird, you can just download the tar file from their site and run it locally03:01
maybebabyit will work fine03:01
nosrednaekimmaybebaby: wrong channel..03:01
nosrednaekimmaybebaby: report a bug.03:02
maybebabymeh03:02
maybebabyi ain't helping shit03:02
maybebabythx03:02
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nosrednaekimI have to get to learning packaging03:16
nosrednaekimmy dad and bro made a nice little program that they want in ubuntu...03:16
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rrittenhouseI won a book  - "Foundations of Qt Development" (by Apress) - I am not a KDE guy but im wondering if anybody here would happen to have another book to trade for it...? Maybe a GTK book or Python.. something more suited for me.03:47
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | 7.10 Beta out | test 3.5.8! | test RC candidates https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Kubuntu
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | 7.10 Beta out | test 3.5.8! | test RC candidates https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Kubuntu
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_StefanS_morning08:52
DaSkreechhi08:55
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buzmhh plasma links against libkdefx.so.5 but installed is .410:21
buzand kde4's kstartupconfig crashes because of an undefined symbol10:22
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buzallee: you have a latitude d830 right?10:33
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doc__hi there11:27
Tm_Thello hello11:27
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Tonio_hey11:35
Tonio_Riddell: I tested 3.5.8 packages this we and I noticed a few issues with desktop files11:35
Tonio_Riddell: there are some in Settings in kmenu, should be systemsettings only11:35
Tonio_Riddell: also desktop sharing misses in systemsettings, and kbuildsyscoca compains with dirfilterplugin11:35
Tonio_Riddell: I have patches for those, is that too late for upload ?11:36
Tonio_Riddell: just a matter of desktop files so there shouldn't be any problem11:36
Hobbseehiya Tonio_11:42
HobbseeTonio_: if you're really really quick...11:42
Tonio_hi Hobbsee :)11:42
Tonio_Hobbsee: uploads in about 2 hours, is that okay ?11:42
Tonio_Hobbsee: can you approve them ?11:42
HobbseeTonio_: um, perhaps.11:42
Hobbseeit should be OK, i guess.11:43
Tonio_Hobbsee: oki11:43
Tonio_Hobbsee: was a bit late for a kde change, a new upstream version upload always needs polishing........ that's the problem11:43
Tonio_Hobbsee: I'll do as quick as I can11:43
HobbseeTonio_: ok, please get to it asap11:43
Hobbseethen we'll judge it11:43
Tonio_Hobbsee: I'll ping you once uploaded11:43
Hobbseeok11:44
RiddellTonio_: go ahead11:48
_StefanS_hey Tonio_11:51
Tonio_Riddell: oki11:53
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Tonio_Riddell: I'll also include a patch by fdoving for kdeject, fixes a bug while unmounting 2 usb keys plugged simultaneously12:18
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Riddellok12:19
Riddell_StefanS_: did you have a patch?12:19
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_StefanS_Riddell: nope, didn't get it work correctly12:19
Riddellok, thanks for trying12:20
_StefanS_no problem12:20
Hobbseeoh, darned buildprep patches.12:20
HobbseeRiddell: am i better off, at this point, pulling hte buildprep patches out, adn getting it to rerun the autohell, or fixing the buildprep patch?12:21
HobbseePatch 98_buildprep.diff does not remove cleanly (refresh it or enforce with -f)12:21
Hobbseemake: *** [reverse-patches]  Error 112:21
RiddellHobbsee: I never include buildprep12:21
Riddellpatches that is12:21
HobbseeRiddell: you did this merge...12:21
Hobbseebut, OK12:21
Riddellmust have slipped in somehow :)12:22
Tonio_Riddell: so I'll upload kde-systemsettings, kdebase, kdenetwork and konq-plugins, in case you're working on some of those12:24
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Hobbseegah, wtf?12:33
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RiddellTonio_: I'm not12:47
Tonio_Riddell: super12:50
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Tonio_Hobbsee: everything-s been uploaded01:18
Tonio_Hobbsee: kdebase, kdenetwork, kde-systemsettings and konq-plugins01:18
mhbhi Tonio_01:18
Tonio_hey mhb ;)01:21
mhbRiddell: did you get my PMs about the websitey thing?01:21
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mhbI have to go to school now, see you in the evening01:45
Tm_Thave fun01:46
HobbseeTonio_: cool01:48
Tonio_Hobbsee: if you need details to get them approved, plrease ping me :)01:52
Hobbseeargh.  why does this hate me?01:55
Hobbsee/bin/bash: /tmp/buildd/konversation-1.0.1/./configure: No such file or directory01:55
Hobbseemake[1] : *** [config.status]  Error 12701:55
Hobbseemake[1] : Leaving directory `/tmp/buildd/konversation-1.0.1/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu'01:55
Hobbseemake: *** [debian/stamp-makefile-build]  Error 201:55
Hobbseepbuilder: Failed autobuilding of package01:55
Hobbseeremoved the build patch thing, but autotools-dev is a build dep - i've forgottne what else i need to do?01:55
Hobbseeor do i need automake?01:55
Hobbseeor autoconf?01:55
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RiddellHobbsee: automake and autoconf I expect are needed02:10
Riddellrun buildprep02:10
Hobbseei cant seem to run buildprep - i get binary changes to files, cant upload02:11
Riddellwhich files?02:11
Hobbseethe .po files02:12
Hobbseeah, now it's working02:12
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_StefanS_Riddell: is there an easy way to change the splash in OOo ? maybe it should read kubuntu, instead of ubuntu (?=02:15
Riddell_StefanS_: I believe it's fixed, one splash for all02:17
Riddellit really shouldn't say "ubuntu" though, at least not as branding02:18
_StefanS_exactly my point..02:18
_StefanS_but its not a big thing :)02:18
_StefanS_just nitpicking i guess02:18
Riddellit goes against our branding for derivatives policy02:18
_StefanS_Riddell: so it should be amended?02:24
_StefanS_changed I mean.02:24
Hobbsee_StefanS_: not this close to release..02:25
_StefanS_Hobbsee: nah guess not02:26
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JucatoTm_T: pay attention to your lecture!02:28
Tm_Tno!02:28
_StefanS_hey Jucato!02:35
Jucatohey _StefanS_02:36
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bddebianHeya03:29
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pradeeptoHi.03:55
Jucatohello03:55
Jucato(belated boo! bddebian)03:55
pradeeptoDoes Kubuntu Gutsy have Enterprise KDEPIM?03:55
Jucatoyep03:55
Jucato!info kdepim gutsy03:55
ubotukdepim: Personal Information Management apps from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 27 kB, installed size 68 kB03:55
pradeeptocool thanks, just want to check on the status of ent kdepim on gutsy.03:55
HobbseeJucato: did you want to proofread my answers?03:57
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bddebianheh, hi Jucato03:57
JucatoHobbsee: um.. huh? wha?03:57
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HobbseeJucato: magazine article03:58
HobbseeJucato: asked nixternal and i questions03:58
Jucatoaaah hm... I 'd love to. but I'm a bit um... mental right now :)03:58
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Hobbseefair enough03:59
Jucatocleaned my room. got rid of the dust. triggered my asthma in the process03:59
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Hobbseeurgh04:00
Hobbseesleep, then!04:00
JucatoI.. can't... addicted... to IRC...04:00
manchicke1heh04:00
manchicke1Morning all.04:01
manchicke1What an incredible weekend.04:01
Jucatomoin manchicke104:01
Jucatoglad you had an incredible one :)04:01
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Hobbseehiya manchicken04:02
Hobbseemanchicken: please dont tell me you have anything to push for adept.04:02
manchickenNo.04:02
manchickenI'm unable to hack at the moment.04:02
manchickenI'm stranded in win32.04:02
manchicken:'(04:02
manchickenMy system76 hasn't come back from its repairs yet.04:02
manchickenThough they definitely found the problem.04:02
manchickenThe guy explained it to me.  The wire for the backlight was too close to the hinges and got rubbed away as the hinge moved.04:03
manchickenHe said that that wire is normally not near the hinge.04:03
manchickenSo I'm just waiting for my baby to come home.04:03
n8k99Jucato: you know there are twelve step programs for your IRC addiction04:05
Hobbseehm, i think i need one :P04:05
Jucaton8k99: actually I only need 1. and had an overdose of that for the past days... and it's actually working....04:05
n8k99they meet round the clock in #IRC-Anonymous04:05
n8k99hehe04:05
Jucato(hence my unusual silence in #kubuntu and #kde)04:05
manchickenn8k99: Nice.04:06
Jucato(relatively silent)04:06
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JucatoHobbsee: deal with annoying/idiot users the whole day for 1 week, I assure you, you will be cured :)04:07
Jucato(in IRC support I mean)04:07
Hobbseeheh04:07
Hobbseeyeah, well04:07
fdovingTonio_: is that the don't-refresh-kdesktop patch? don't you think it's an evil workaround?04:12
Tonio_fdoving: not that much honnestly04:16
Hobbseeaww drat.  you cant make katapult open hidden directories04:16
Tonio_fdoving: it is just a matter of seconds04:16
Tonio_fdoving: the desktop takes 1 more second to refresh, but at least you can unmount your devices, which is more important imho04:17
manchickenTonio_: Wuddup:?04:18
Tonio_hey manchicken :)04:19
fdovingTonio_: true. :)04:21
Tonio_fdoving: :)04:22
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Riddelldavmor2: what do you think of this as a workaround? http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/displayconfig-restore.py04:55
Riddellhttp://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/displayconfig.diff04:56
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davmor2Riddell sorry afk05:19
davmor2I am going to be trying out the FC of Kubuntu as soon as it is out so I shall put it to the test for your then okay?05:20
seeleRiddell: is it possible to call in to a UDS session if you're not there?05:22
Hobbseeseele: yeah05:22
Hobbseeseele: was in sevilla05:22
seeleHobbsee: ok thanks05:22
HobbseeTonio_: do you have any more uploads at all?05:33
Hobbseenixternal: was that your last kubuntu-docs uplaod?05:33
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davmor2Riddell: what's the .diff file for?05:40
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Tonio_Hobbsee: that's okay forme05:45
nixternalHobbsee: yes on kubuntu-docs05:52
Hobbseenixternal: good05:53
nixternalthere is a new kvkbd if we want it05:53
nixternalI could do a quick package of it05:53
Hobbseeno05:54
nixternalhehe05:54
Hobbseeunless there's anything really interestnig that it fixes05:54
nixternalit is a bug fix05:54
nixternal0.4.6 - bugfix when started without x running. Confirm working with KDM and --loginhelper option passed (tested in kubuntu)05:54
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jpatrickmoin06:00
jpatrickanyone having problems with their @kubuntu.org mail?06:02
nixternaljpatrick: oh ya, I was supposed to tell you06:05
nixternalthe reason you are having problems is because you have created a loop with your preferred email addy in LP06:05
nixternalyou need to change it to something other than @kubuntu.org or @ubuntu.com06:05
nixternalyou need to change it to your forward address06:05
nixternalit happened to me the other day, and they told me to tell you to do the same06:06
jpatricknixternal: I have my gmail address there too06:06
nixternalis it set as preferred?06:06
jpatricknop, opps06:06
nixternalit has to be set now...changes they made recently, even though they say no, caused it06:06
Hobbseeit's been long possible to break that way06:06
nixternalbecause for over a year, I had my preferred set to @ubuntu.com and never once had a problem06:06
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jpatrickwas kinda wondering why everyone on the mailing lists appeared to have died..06:08
nixternallol06:08
nixternalHobbsee: do we have any show stoppers, or any mission critical bugs that need to be worked out?06:11
Hobbseedont think so, but havent checked teh final buglist06:11
fdovingwill strigi be on or off by default?06:13
Hobbseeoff06:15
fdovingok.06:15
fdovingi have tested beagle lately.06:15
fdovingwith kerry.06:15
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fdovingand it's much more reliable, faster and the index size is 10% of what strigi managed to make.06:15
jpatrickfdoving: I think kerry's no longer developed06:16
fdovinglooks finished to me :)06:16
fdovinghttp://cia.vc/stats/project/kde/kerry/06:23
fdovinglooks like there is some activity.06:23
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mhbgood evening08:50
Tonio_Riddell: any chance that my today's upoload are accepted  ?08:51
LureRiddell: didn't we have blue splashes for openoffice before?08:53
LureTonio_: I think they were already08:53
LureTonio_: at least I have seen announcements on gutsy-changes08:53
Tonio_Lure: super thanks08:53
Tonio_ureI didn't receive the emails yet....08:54
Tonio_Lure: i may have a problem as I didn't receive any email on gutsy-changes since yesterady08:56
LureTonio_: I use rss feed08:56
Tonio_Lure: hum okay, maybe that's a bit better08:57
nixternalahh, we are back to the browness for oo.o08:57
nixternal:(08:57
nixternalthe blue splash was the only reason I ever opened it :)08:58
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=== Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Wed Oct 10 12:34:45 2007
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mhbnixternal: could you please find & apply the patches anytime soon?09:15
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CPrgmSwR2Hi, when is kde4-beta3 going to be released09:41
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: its in the repos for gutsy already09:49
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: check kubuntu.org for instructions, although they are for beta209:50
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CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: does that mean I need to upgrade to gutsy10:11
CPrgmSwR2or how do I download beta3?10:12
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: well have you enabled feisty backports?10:12
CPrgmSwR2yes10:12
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: ok, do a sudo apt-cache search 'KDE 4' and see if you have beta 3 there (3.94)10:13
CPrgmSwR2Thats odd nothing with beta shows up10:14
CPrgmSwR2deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main universe multiverse restricted <-- this enables feisty--backports right?10:15
_StefanS_yep should do the trick10:17
CPrgmSwR2I have beta2 installed10:17
_StefanS_have you tried to dist-upgrade?10:17
CPrgmSwR2What is the repository for gutsy10:17
_StefanS_I mean, do you have the latest packages10:17
CPrgmSwR2I should the icon doesn't show anything out of date10:18
_StefanS_its in the universe repo10:18
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CPrgmSwR2is there a way to tell if thats enabled?10:18
_StefanS_you should just upgrade to gutsy, its very stable and you get kde 3.5.8 aswell10:18
CPrgmSwR2okay what is the repository for gutsy10:18
emonkeyI can confirm that10:18
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: just search and replace feisty for gutsy in your sources.list10:19
CPrgmSwR2ah okay10:19
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: I guess the official way is to use update-manager(?) or something10:19
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: i just did a sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade afterwards10:20
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emonkeyyes... here are further informations: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/RC/Kubuntu10:20
emonkeyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f5210:20
CPrgmSwR2it would be neat if there was a script to replace gusty with fiesty so you just type changedist gutsty10:22
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: go with the official way of upgrading10:22
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: well you would only need that command every 6 months ;)10:23
CPrgmSwR2um... this doesn't work update-manager -d10:24
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: did you install update-manager first?10:26
CPrgmSwR2no10:26
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: you probably should do that10:26
CPrgmSwR2sorry I am new to kubuntu10:26
_StefanS_thats ok10:26
_StefanS_use the commandline or adept; manage packages10:27
CPrgmSwR2sudo apt-get update-manager10:27
CPrgmSwR2what is wrong with that line10:27
_StefanS_sudo apt-get install update-manager10:27
CPrgmSwR2Oh10:27
_StefanS_you need to specify an action.10:27
CPrgmSwR2okay10:27
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: lets go to #kubuntu10:27
CPrgmSwR2okay10:27
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: devel is not really the place to discuss this10:27
CPrgmSwR2thats fine10:27
Riddelldavmor2: pong10:30
RiddellTonio_: I accepted them hours ago10:30
davmor2Riddell: what's the .diff file for?10:32
davmor2Riddell: nearly testing time too10:32
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Riddelldavmor2: for applying to /usr//share/python-support/guidance-backends/displayconfig-restore.py10:34
davmor2ah okay10:34
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_StefanS_Riddell: is that displayconfig patch related to this question maybe ? : I upgraded kubuntu to gutsy. When I log in with my user, my external monitor is blank. With test user however, whos config files I deleted, the monitor works. Question, which config files do I delete for my user to get the monitor working?10:36
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Riddell_StefanS_: no it's not, and I'm no X guy but I can't imagine why anything in ~ should affect X setup10:40
Riddell(which isn't to say I don't believe you of course :)10:40
_StefanS_ah ok10:40
_StefanS_just seemed related :) - and sorry again for bugging you on and off , and then leaving irc :D10:40
davmor2Riddell: what does the script do anyway?10:42
Riddelldavmor2: forces the DPI to 96 if it notices a nutty dpi like the intel drive gave you10:43
Riddellwell that's the hope, if you could test that would be lovely10:43
davmor2I will do as soon as the iso's are up :)  Kub is the desktop I'm testing first :)10:43
Riddelldavmor2: ok, it should be in those ISOs so just let me know if things change10:44
davmor2okay cool :)10:44
davmor2Riddell: I'll let you know as soon as I do :)10:47
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Riddell"gutsy-wallpapers - Feisty Wallpapers" spot the mistake12:12
nixternal-12:12
nixternal!- :)12:12
_StefanS_heh12:16
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