[01:12] <hads> Hey all, I just discovered a bug in Dolphin that may trap quite a few people. Confirmed by someone else in #kubuntu
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> indeed
[01:13] <hads> To reproduce; in a directory with a large number of subdirs, scroll down past the first 'page' and then try to drag a subdir to a different subdir. The information pane reports the drop target which would be on the first 'page' and the drop goes to the incorrect subdir.
[01:14] <gnomefreak> file a bug it will attract more people
[01:14] <hads> Sure, I was just being lazy.
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> actually, I find it will default to the top folder viewable
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> (and not go off the default)
[01:17] <hads> nosrednaekim: Interesting, here it seems to follow the pattern of where the folder icon would be on the first page of results.
[01:25] <hads> nosrednaekim: #152788 in case you're interested.
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> ok
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> bug 152788
[01:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 152788 in dolphin "Dolphin drag and drop targets wrong directory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/152788
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> hads: if you go to #ubuntu+1 you might find more people to confirm it.
[01:28] <hads> Sure
[02:56] <maybebaby> has anyone got kde4 beta running on current gutsy?  the instructions from #kubuntu don't work
[02:57] <maybebaby> would love to give it a try
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> maybebaby: they worked for me... where did it fail for you?
[02:58] <maybebaby> kdebase-workspace didn't install
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> what is the error?
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> I heard that complaint before..
[02:59] <maybebaby> regular unmet dependencies
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> which are..
[02:59] <maybebaby> you want me to list them here?
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> !paste | maybebaby here would do
[03:00] <ubotu> maybebaby here would do: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:00] <maybebaby> kde4base and related
[03:00] <maybebaby> regardless its circular and unresolvable
[03:01] <maybebaby> to the person seeking thunderbird, you can just download the tar file from their site and run it locally
[03:01] <maybebaby> it will work fine
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> maybebaby: wrong channel..
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> maybebaby: report a bug.
[03:02] <maybebaby> meh
[03:02] <maybebaby> i ain't helping shit
[03:02] <maybebaby> thx
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> I have to get to learning packaging
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> my dad and bro made a nice little program that they want in ubuntu...
[03:47] <rrittenhouse> I won a book  - "Foundations of Qt Development" (by Apress) - I am not a KDE guy but im wondering if anybody here would happen to have another book to trade for it...? Maybe a GTK book or Python.. something more suited for me.
[08:52] <_StefanS_> morning
[08:55] <DaSkreech> hi
[10:21] <buz> mhh plasma links against libkdefx.so.5 but installed is .4
[10:22] <buz> and kde4's kstartupconfig crashes because of an undefined symbol
[10:33] <buz> allee: you have a latitude d830 right?
[11:27] <doc__> hi there
[11:27] <Tm_T> hello hello
[11:35] <Tonio_> hey
[11:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: I tested 3.5.8 packages this we and I noticed a few issues with desktop files
[11:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: there are some in Settings in kmenu, should be systemsettings only
[11:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: also desktop sharing misses in systemsettings, and kbuildsyscoca compains with dirfilterplugin
[11:36] <Tonio_> Riddell: I have patches for those, is that too late for upload ?
[11:36] <Tonio_> Riddell: just a matter of desktop files so there shouldn't be any problem
[11:42] <Hobbsee> hiya Tonio_
[11:42] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: if you're really really quick...
[11:42] <Tonio_> hi Hobbsee :)
[11:42] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: uploads in about 2 hours, is that okay ?
[11:42] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: can you approve them ?
[11:42] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: um, perhaps.
[11:43] <Hobbsee> it should be OK, i guess.
[11:43] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: oki
[11:43] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: was a bit late for a kde change, a new upstream version upload always needs polishing........ that's the problem
[11:43] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I'll do as quick as I can
[11:43] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: ok, please get to it asap
[11:43] <Hobbsee> then we'll judge it
[11:43] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I'll ping you once uploaded
[11:44] <Hobbsee> ok
[11:48] <Riddell> Tonio_: go ahead
[11:51] <_StefanS_> hey Tonio_
[11:53] <Tonio_> Riddell: oki
[12:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'll also include a patch by fdoving for kdeject, fixes a bug while unmounting 2 usb keys plugged simultaneously
[12:19] <Riddell> ok
[12:19] <Riddell> _StefanS_: did you have a patch?
[12:19] <_StefanS_> Riddell: nope, didn't get it work correctly
[12:20] <Riddell> ok, thanks for trying
[12:20] <_StefanS_> no problem
[12:20] <Hobbsee> oh, darned buildprep patches.
[12:21] <Hobbsee> Riddell: am i better off, at this point, pulling hte buildprep patches out, adn getting it to rerun the autohell, or fixing the buildprep patch?
[12:21] <Hobbsee> Patch 98_buildprep.diff does not remove cleanly (refresh it or enforce with -f)
[12:21] <Hobbsee> make: *** [reverse-patches]  Error 1
[12:21] <Riddell> Hobbsee: I never include buildprep
[12:21] <Riddell> patches that is
[12:21] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you did this merge...
[12:21] <Hobbsee> but, OK
[12:22] <Riddell> must have slipped in somehow :)
[12:24] <Tonio_> Riddell: so I'll upload kde-systemsettings, kdebase, kdenetwork and konq-plugins, in case you're working on some of those
[12:33] <Hobbsee> gah, wtf?
[12:47] <Riddell> Tonio_: I'm not
[12:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: super
[01:18] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: everything-s been uploaded
[01:18] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: kdebase, kdenetwork, kde-systemsettings and konq-plugins
[01:18] <mhb> hi Tonio_
[01:21] <Tonio_> hey mhb ;)
[01:21] <mhb> Riddell: did you get my PMs about the websitey thing?
[01:45] <mhb> I have to go to school now, see you in the evening
[01:46] <Tm_T> have fun
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: cool
[01:52] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: if you need details to get them approved, plrease ping me :)
[01:55] <Hobbsee> argh.  why does this hate me?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> /bin/bash: /tmp/buildd/konversation-1.0.1/./configure: No such file or directory
[01:55] <Hobbsee> make[1] : *** [config.status]  Error 127
[01:55] <Hobbsee> make[1] : Leaving directory `/tmp/buildd/konversation-1.0.1/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu'
[01:55] <Hobbsee> make: *** [debian/stamp-makefile-build]  Error 2
[01:55] <Hobbsee> pbuilder: Failed autobuilding of package
[01:55] <Hobbsee> removed the build patch thing, but autotools-dev is a build dep - i've forgottne what else i need to do?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> or do i need automake?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> or autoconf?
[02:10] <Riddell> Hobbsee: automake and autoconf I expect are needed
[02:10] <Riddell> run buildprep
[02:11] <Hobbsee> i cant seem to run buildprep - i get binary changes to files, cant upload
[02:11] <Riddell> which files?
[02:12] <Hobbsee> the .po files
[02:12] <Hobbsee> ah, now it's working
[02:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: is there an easy way to change the splash in OOo ? maybe it should read kubuntu, instead of ubuntu (?=
[02:17] <Riddell> _StefanS_: I believe it's fixed, one splash for all
[02:18] <Riddell> it really shouldn't say "ubuntu" though, at least not as branding
[02:18] <_StefanS_> exactly my point..
[02:18] <_StefanS_> but its not a big thing :)
[02:18] <_StefanS_> just nitpicking i guess
[02:18] <Riddell> it goes against our branding for derivatives policy
[02:24] <_StefanS_> Riddell: so it should be amended?
[02:24] <_StefanS_> changed I mean.
[02:25] <Hobbsee> _StefanS_: not this close to release..
[02:26] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: nah guess not
[02:28] <Tm_T> hrrr
[02:28] <Jucato> Tm_T: pay attention to your lecture!
[02:28] <Tm_T> no!
[02:35] <_StefanS_> hey Jucato!
[02:36] <Jucato> hey _StefanS_
[03:29] <bddebian> Heya
[03:55] <pradeepto> Hi.
[03:55] <Jucato> hello
[03:55] <Jucato> (belated boo! bddebian)
[03:55] <pradeepto> Does Kubuntu Gutsy have Enterprise KDEPIM?
[03:55] <Jucato> yep
[03:55] <Jucato> !info kdepim gutsy
[03:55] <ubotu> kdepim: Personal Information Management apps from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 27 kB, installed size 68 kB
[03:55] <pradeepto> cool thanks, just want to check on the status of ent kdepim on gutsy.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> Jucato: did you want to proofread my answers?
[03:57] <bddebian> heh, hi Jucato
[03:57] <Jucato> Hobbsee: um.. huh? wha?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> Jucato: magazine article
[03:58] <Hobbsee> Jucato: asked nixternal and i questions
[03:58] <Jucato> aaah hm... I 'd love to. but I'm a bit um... mental right now :)
[03:59] <Hobbsee> fair enough
[03:59] <Jucato> cleaned my room. got rid of the dust. triggered my asthma in the process
[04:00] <Hobbsee> urgh
[04:00] <Hobbsee> sleep, then!
[04:00] <Jucato> I.. can't... addicted... to IRC...
[04:00] <manchicke1> heh
[04:01] <manchicke1> Morning all.
[04:01] <manchicke1> What an incredible weekend.
[04:01] <Jucato> moin manchicke1
[04:01] <Jucato> glad you had an incredible one :)
[04:02] <Hobbsee> hiya manchicken
[04:02] <Hobbsee> manchicken: please dont tell me you have anything to push for adept.
[04:02] <manchicken> No.
[04:02] <manchicken> I'm unable to hack at the moment.
[04:02] <manchicken> I'm stranded in win32.
[04:02] <manchicken> :'(
[04:02] <manchicken> My system76 hasn't come back from its repairs yet.
[04:02] <manchicken> Though they definitely found the problem.
[04:03] <manchicken> The guy explained it to me.  The wire for the backlight was too close to the hinges and got rubbed away as the hinge moved.
[04:03] <manchicken> He said that that wire is normally not near the hinge.
[04:03] <manchicken> So I'm just waiting for my baby to come home.
[04:05] <n8k99> Jucato: you know there are twelve step programs for your IRC addiction
[04:05] <Hobbsee> hm, i think i need one :P
[04:05] <Jucato> n8k99: actually I only need 1. and had an overdose of that for the past days... and it's actually working....
[04:05] <n8k99> they meet round the clock in #IRC-Anonymous
[04:05] <n8k99> hehe
[04:05] <Jucato> (hence my unusual silence in #kubuntu and #kde)
[04:06] <manchicken> n8k99: Nice.
[04:06] <Jucato> (relatively silent)
[04:07] <Jucato> Hobbsee: deal with annoying/idiot users the whole day for 1 week, I assure you, you will be cured :)
[04:07] <Jucato> (in IRC support I mean)
[04:07] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:07] <Hobbsee> yeah, well
[04:12] <fdoving> Tonio_: is that the don't-refresh-kdesktop patch? don't you think it's an evil workaround?
[04:16] <Tonio_> fdoving: not that much honnestly
[04:16] <Hobbsee> aww drat.  you cant make katapult open hidden directories
[04:16] <Tonio_> fdoving: it is just a matter of seconds
[04:17] <Tonio_> fdoving: the desktop takes 1 more second to refresh, but at least you can unmount your devices, which is more important imho
[04:18] <manchicken> Tonio_: Wuddup:?
[04:19] <Tonio_> hey manchicken :)
[04:21] <fdoving> Tonio_: true. :)
[04:22] <Tonio_> fdoving: :)
[04:55] <Riddell> davmor2: what do you think of this as a workaround? http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/displayconfig-restore.py
[04:56] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/displayconfig.diff
[05:19] <davmor2> Riddell sorry afk
[05:20] <davmor2> I am going to be trying out the FC of Kubuntu as soon as it is out so I shall put it to the test for your then okay?
[05:22] <seele> Riddell: is it possible to call in to a UDS session if you're not there?
[05:22] <Hobbsee> seele: yeah
[05:22] <Hobbsee> seele: was in sevilla
[05:22] <seele> Hobbsee: ok thanks
[05:33] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: do you have any more uploads at all?
[05:33] <Hobbsee> nixternal: was that your last kubuntu-docs uplaod?
[05:40] <davmor2> Riddell: what's the .diff file for?
[05:45] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: that's okay forme
[05:52] <nixternal> Hobbsee: yes on kubuntu-docs
[05:53] <Hobbsee> nixternal: good
[05:53] <nixternal> there is a new kvkbd if we want it
[05:53] <nixternal> I could do a quick package of it
[05:54] <Hobbsee> no
[05:54] <nixternal> hehe
[05:54] <Hobbsee> unless there's anything really interestnig that it fixes
[05:54] <nixternal> it is a bug fix
[05:54] <nixternal> 0.4.6 - bugfix when started without x running. Confirm working with KDM and --loginhelper option passed (tested in kubuntu)
[06:00] <jpatrick> moin
[06:02] <jpatrick> anyone having problems with their @kubuntu.org mail?
[06:05] <nixternal> jpatrick: oh ya, I was supposed to tell you
[06:05] <nixternal> the reason you are having problems is because you have created a loop with your preferred email addy in LP
[06:05] <nixternal> you need to change it to something other than @kubuntu.org or @ubuntu.com
[06:05] <nixternal> you need to change it to your forward address
[06:06] <nixternal> it happened to me the other day, and they told me to tell you to do the same
[06:06] <jpatrick> nixternal: I have my gmail address there too
[06:06] <nixternal> is it set as preferred?
[06:06] <jpatrick> nop, opps
[06:06] <nixternal> it has to be set now...changes they made recently, even though they say no, caused it
[06:06] <Hobbsee> it's been long possible to break that way
[06:06] <nixternal> because for over a year, I had my preferred set to @ubuntu.com and never once had a problem
[06:08] <jpatrick> was kinda wondering why everyone on the mailing lists appeared to have died..
[06:08] <nixternal> lol
[06:11] <nixternal> Hobbsee: do we have any show stoppers, or any mission critical bugs that need to be worked out?
[06:11] <Hobbsee> dont think so, but havent checked teh final buglist
[06:13] <fdoving> will strigi be on or off by default?
[06:15] <Hobbsee> off
[06:15] <fdoving> ok.
[06:15] <fdoving> i have tested beagle lately.
[06:15] <fdoving> with kerry.
[06:15] <fdoving> and it's much more reliable, faster and the index size is 10% of what strigi managed to make.
[06:16] <jpatrick> fdoving: I think kerry's no longer developed
[06:16] <fdoving> looks finished to me :)
[06:23] <fdoving> http://cia.vc/stats/project/kde/kerry/
[06:23] <fdoving> looks like there is some activity.
[08:50] <mhb> good evening
[08:51] <Tonio_> Riddell: any chance that my today's upoload are accepted  ?
[08:53] <Lure> Riddell: didn't we have blue splashes for openoffice before?
[08:53] <Lure> Tonio_: I think they were already
[08:53] <Lure> Tonio_: at least I have seen announcements on gutsy-changes
[08:53] <Tonio_> Lure: super thanks
[08:54] <Tonio_> ureI didn't receive the emails yet....
[08:56] <Tonio_> Lure: i may have a problem as I didn't receive any email on gutsy-changes since yesterady
[08:56] <Lure> Tonio_: I use rss feed
[08:57] <Tonio_> Lure: hum okay, maybe that's a bit better
[08:57] <nixternal> ahh, we are back to the browness for oo.o
[08:57] <nixternal> :(
[08:58] <nixternal> the blue splash was the only reason I ever opened it :)
[09:15] <mhb> nixternal: could you please find & apply the patches anytime soon?
[09:41] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi, when is kde4-beta3 going to be released
[09:49] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: its in the repos for gutsy already
[09:50] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: check kubuntu.org for instructions, although they are for beta2
[10:11] <CPrgmSwR2> _StefanS_: does that mean I need to upgrade to gutsy
[10:12] <CPrgmSwR2> or how do I download beta3?
[10:12] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: well have you enabled feisty backports?
[10:12] <CPrgmSwR2> yes
[10:13] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: ok, do a sudo apt-cache search 'KDE 4' and see if you have beta 3 there (3.94)
[10:14] <CPrgmSwR2> Thats odd nothing with beta shows up
[10:15] <CPrgmSwR2> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main universe multiverse restricted <-- this enables feisty--backports right?
[10:17] <_StefanS_> yep should do the trick
[10:17] <CPrgmSwR2> I have beta2 installed
[10:17] <_StefanS_> have you tried to dist-upgrade?
[10:17] <CPrgmSwR2> What is the repository for gutsy
[10:17] <_StefanS_> I mean, do you have the latest packages
[10:18] <CPrgmSwR2> I should the icon doesn't show anything out of date
[10:18] <_StefanS_> its in the universe repo
[10:18] <CPrgmSwR2> is there a way to tell if thats enabled?
[10:18] <_StefanS_> you should just upgrade to gutsy, its very stable and you get kde 3.5.8 aswell
[10:18] <CPrgmSwR2> okay what is the repository for gutsy
[10:18] <emonkey> I can confirm that
[10:19] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: just search and replace feisty for gutsy in your sources.list
[10:19] <CPrgmSwR2> ah okay
[10:19] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: I guess the official way is to use update-manager(?) or something
[10:20] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: i just did a sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade afterwards
[10:20] <emonkey> yes... here are further informations: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/RC/Kubuntu
[10:20] <emonkey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[10:22] <CPrgmSwR2> it would be neat if there was a script to replace gusty with fiesty so you just type changedist gutsty
[10:22] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: go with the official way of upgrading
[10:23] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: well you would only need that command every 6 months ;)
[10:24] <CPrgmSwR2> um... this doesn't work update-manager -d
[10:26] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: did you install update-manager first?
[10:26] <CPrgmSwR2> no
[10:26] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: you probably should do that
[10:26] <CPrgmSwR2> sorry I am new to kubuntu
[10:26] <_StefanS_> thats ok
[10:27] <_StefanS_> use the commandline or adept; manage packages
[10:27] <CPrgmSwR2> sudo apt-get update-manager
[10:27] <CPrgmSwR2> what is wrong with that line
[10:27] <_StefanS_> sudo apt-get install update-manager
[10:27] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh
[10:27] <_StefanS_> you need to specify an action.
[10:27] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[10:27] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: lets go to #kubuntu
[10:27] <CPrgmSwR2> okay
[10:27] <_StefanS_> CPrgmSwR2: devel is not really the place to discuss this
[10:27] <CPrgmSwR2> thats fine
[10:30] <Riddell> davmor2: pong
[10:30] <Riddell> Tonio_: I accepted them hours ago
[10:32] <davmor2> Riddell: what's the .diff file for?
[10:32] <davmor2> Riddell: nearly testing time too
[10:34] <Riddell> davmor2: for applying to /usr//share/python-support/guidance-backends/displayconfig-restore.py
[10:34] <davmor2> ah okay
[10:36] <_StefanS_> Riddell: is that displayconfig patch related to this question maybe ? : I upgraded kubuntu to gutsy. When I log in with my user, my external monitor is blank. With test user however, whos config files I deleted, the monitor works. Question, which config files do I delete for my user to get the monitor working?
[10:40] <Riddell> _StefanS_: no it's not, and I'm no X guy but I can't imagine why anything in ~ should affect X setup
[10:40] <Riddell> (which isn't to say I don't believe you of course :)
[10:40] <_StefanS_> ah ok
[10:40] <_StefanS_> just seemed related :) - and sorry again for bugging you on and off , and then leaving irc :D
[10:42] <davmor2> Riddell: what does the script do anyway?
[10:43] <Riddell> davmor2: forces the DPI to 96 if it notices a nutty dpi like the intel drive gave you
[10:43] <Riddell> well that's the hope, if you could test that would be lovely
[10:43] <davmor2> I will do as soon as the iso's are up :)  Kub is the desktop I'm testing first :)
[10:44] <Riddell> davmor2: ok, it should be in those ISOs so just let me know if things change
[10:44] <davmor2> okay cool :)
[10:47] <davmor2> Riddell: I'll let you know as soon as I do :)
[12:12] <Riddell> "gutsy-wallpapers - Feisty Wallpapers" spot the mistake
[12:12] <nixternal> -
[12:12] <nixternal> !- :)
[12:16] <_StefanS_> heh