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hellcattravOk Ive got rid of 1.512:40
Scunizistruct, once the right video driver is loaded, then get into desktop settings and remove the check marks on the specific effects, then install bryle. Unfortunatly I'm currently in a Dapper KDE session and not feisty right now so I can't guide you specifically.12:40
hellcattravand iin the folder there is wone labeled thunerbird and one labeled thunderbird-bin12:40
acomacohitmanWilly: i got pentium 4.12:41
hitmanWillyp4...that's probably ddr2 then, unless its a laptop12:41
nosrednaekimacomaco: probably DDR then12:41
compilerwriterHow has the Gutsy rc recently released been working for people?12:41
hitmanWillyoh, sorry, yeah, regular ddr12:42
acomacoWell i am going to buy ram..but i need to be sure..and i've never seen a ram like this :s12:42
nosrednaekimcompilerwriter: great.12:42
acomacothey are WAAAAAAAAAy to thinn12:42
nosrednaekimacomaco: is it a laptop?12:42
acomaconope12:42
hellcattravso what do i do now?12:43
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nosrednaekimhellcattrav: go into thunderbird-bin12:43
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hellcattravhow do i go into it?12:43
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hellcattravopen?12:44
hellcattravnosrednaekim: its not opening12:44
eljefehow can i check the DMA settings on my new DVDR drive?  It is advertised to burn at 18x but is generally 4x (tops out at 8x but most is 4x)12:44
nosrednaekimhellcattrav: oh... you mean there are two executables or two folders?12:45
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acomaconosrednaekim: ? you don't know? =)12:46
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nosrednaekimacomaco: then its ddr.12:46
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Scunizieljefe, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28788&highlight=enable+dma12:47
structScunizi: but there is no way such as in ubuntu where you can just enable desktop effect right?12:48
structScunizi: you have to install beryl etc...?12:48
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Scuniziyep.12:48
acomaconosrednaekim: serched for compaq desktop and found some info bout the computer.. it's HP 1GB PC3200 (DDR 400MHz) DIMM: Grantsdale 915G/GV12:48
Scunizistruct, well.. i take that back.. there are some built in desktop effects.. but I'm new to playing with kde vs gnome..12:48
acomacoor lol its DDR XD12:48
structok12:49
structit doesnt really matter to me that much12:49
structI dont use ubuntu12:49
structI was just thinking of my customers12:49
ScuniziIf you have an ati card.. well.. I've really had problems with that.. nvidia worked great for me.12:49
acomaconosrednaekim: wierd thing is that i got a ddr memory that doesnt fit..12:50
nosrednaekimhuh12:50
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acomaconosrednaekim: i have a old computer with DDR ram..and i tried to "improve" my new.. but the old one was to big..12:51
nosrednaekimacomaco: sure its not DIMM?12:51
eljefeScunizi: is that a good idea, to add that stuff?  why isn't it in by default?12:51
Scunizineed some edo memory.. I've got a several 4meg chips?  :)12:52
acomaconosrednaekim: Hmm i tought dimm for the brand :P whats the diffrence?12:52
mike-kubuntuis kde4 gonna be in gutsy?12:52
acomacodimm stood for the brand**12:52
nosrednaekimmike-kubuntu: not by default, but yes12:52
Scunizieljefe, I don't know.. if you add it you can always turn it off.12:52
Scunizimike-kubuntu, no12:52
nosrednaekimacomaco: DIMM was the older type12:52
mike-kubuntuScunizi: how about compiz-fusion?12:53
ScuniziI think so.12:53
acomaconosrednaekim: okey..lol :p12:53
structnosrednaekim: whats the newer type?12:53
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acomaconosrednaekim: kinda wierd since i got a "newer" computer than the old one..12:53
eljefeScunizi: the " sudo hdparm -I /dev/***" command doesn't want to work for my /dev/cdrom /dev/sdc /dev/cdrw or whatever else I try..12:54
mafekubuntu en espal?12:54
nosrednaekimes12:54
eljefe!es12:54
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:54
Scunizi!dma | eljefe12:54
eljefenope12:54
ScuniziI guess there's no bot here..12:54
eljefe!dma12:54
structacomaco: dimm is a type of ram12:54
ubotueljefe: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA12:54
eljefeah HA12:54
acomacostruct: hehe okey12:55
structacomaco: dual inline memory module12:55
Scunizieljefe, sorry.. i'm at a loss for more info on it.. have you tried the forums?12:55
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nosrednaekimeljefe: if you are on a laptop, the speed might be limited by your Hard-drives read12:56
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acomacostruct: how good is it compared to DDR?12:56
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MinatakuBack12:56
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MinatakuCheck your dmesg12:57
gnomefreakstruct: caps12:57
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gnomefreakstdin: caps12:57
MinatakuMake sure that it's detecting your chipset correctly12:57
saeedhi all12:57
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MinatakuIt's possible it's unsupported/weird/support isn't included by default12:57
stdingnomefreak: I did, script lower cased it12:57
eljefenosrednaekim: thanks, but its a desktop.  all are SATA drives... looking more into it tho, thanks for the support Scunizi12:57
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gnomefreakstdin: hmmm12:58
Scunizieljefe, np12:58
MinatakuWhich may very well cause it to work, but fall back to something like PIO012:58
Minatakulol12:58
structacomaco: ddr memory are a type of dimm memory12:58
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Minatakustdin: ???12:58
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stdinahh!12:59
MinatakuI don't think it's case sensitive, at any rate12:59
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acomacostruct: okey i'll just unplugg my memory and take it to vendor and tell him "1gb memory looking like this"12:59
MinatakuOr at the very least, it SHOULDN'T be12:59
MinatakuBut then this IRCd is so backwards-ass, who knows12:59
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structacomaco: should be a sticker on your memory module that tells you what it is12:59
stdinMinataku: just in case ;)12:59
eljefenosrednaekim and Scunizi, what does it mean when there are three lines given as output: IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit) / readonly     =  0 (off) / readahead    = 256 (on)12:59
gnomefreakty stdin01:00
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nosrednaekimeljefe: what command did you get that from?01:00
eljefesudo hdparm -v /dev/scd001:00
MinatakuI said to check your dmesg for info on it01:00
structacomaco: 1GB PC-3200 DDR 400 for example01:00
MinatakuBut if you want to ignore me, that's fine too, I'll go back to whatever I was doing01:00
nosrednaekimeljefe: anything in there about "using_dma?01:01
eljefenope01:01
nosrednaekimeljefe: odd.. there is for me.01:01
eljefenosrednaekim:  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device01:01
eljefethat is the fourth line01:01
nosrednaekimof course... I have a ATA drive.01:01
eljefeah01:01
eljefegoing to make a big difference?01:01
MinatakuPractically all devices use DMA01:01
eljefedoes SATA not use DMA?01:01
eljefemm ok01:02
MinatakuSATA most definitely WILL01:02
eljefei would think so01:02
MinatakuUnless the chipset is weird/unsupported01:02
MinatakuOtherwise it's stuck using one of the PIO modes, which YES, will make a fricking MASSIVE difference01:02
acomacostruct: okey01:02
acomacostruct: thx01:02
eljefenot sure, its the onboard SATA controller for the moboard, not sure what it is01:02
MinatakuI said, check dmesg output01:02
MinatakuIt should say what it is or quite possibly say it doesn't know and is using some universal fallback01:03
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eljefeMinataku: I should check the dmesg?  i don't know if it'll be there anymore, lemme check tho01:04
eljefeno01:04
hadsDolphin is installed and used by default on Gutsy correct?01:05
MinatakuIt should be there01:05
nosrednaekimhads: yup01:05
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MinatakuUnless the machine has very heavy kernel ring buffer traffic or has been on for several years01:05
hadsI think I just found a relatively annoying bug in it.01:05
Daisuke_Idoimo, dolphin *is* a relatively annoying bug :\01:06
nosrednaekimhads: which is.....01:06
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: :)01:06
MinatakuDaisuke-Ido: What is it?01:06
hadsIf anyone has it installed I'd appreciate a confirmation.01:06
Scunizieljefe, here's another referance.. http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/20/cd-rom-drive-too-slow/01:06
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: dolphin.01:06
nosrednaekimhads: I do... that is the problem?01:06
MinatakuDURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR01:06
nosrednaekim*what01:06
MinatakuI already knew that much01:06
Minataku>:|01:06
hellcattravwhats dolphin?01:06
nosrednaekim!dolphin01:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:06
nosrednaekimits a filemanager !01:06
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: i just said that dolphin is a bug01:06
nosrednaekimahh!01:07
nosrednaekimlol01:07
eljefedolphin is the new file browser for KDE01:07
MinatakuAh01:07
MinatakuThey finally retired Konq?01:07
eljefeno01:07
Daisuke_Idonah, it's still there01:07
eljefejust for the newbs01:07
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hadsnosrednaekim: In a directory with a large number of subdirs, scroll down past the first 'page' and then try to drag a subdir to a different subdir. It seems to report the drop target which would be on the first 'page'.01:07
Daisuke_Idobut dolphin's the default01:07
MinatakuToo bad they replaced it with another needless reimplementation01:07
blendtuxis it not good Daisuke_Ido01:07
Daisuke_Idoi personally don't like it01:07
Daisuke_Idobut a lot of people seem to01:07
eljefei like some of it, but only seen screenshots so i don't REALLY know01:07
Daisuke_Idoso like everything in linux, it comes down to personal preference01:07
MinatakuDaisuke-Ido: Sorry, BTW, didn't mean to snap at you01:08
Minatakulol01:08
nosrednaekimthe kde4 version is awesome01:08
eljefemaybe that is it01:08
blendtuxnot only with linux, but with everything01:08
eljefekde4 seems pretty awesome but it'll be a bit01:08
blendtuxbut from a technical point of view is there something wrong with dolphin01:08
Daisuke_Idoblendtux: not really01:08
nosrednaekimhads: i'm not getting you..01:08
Daisuke_Idoin feisty it didn't handle mounted drives properly for me01:08
hadsnosrednaekim: I'm probably not explaining very well. Let me try again.01:09
nosrednaekimhads: ah! I see!01:10
nosrednaekimhads: DEFINATELY a bug.01:10
eljefewell, I give up on the DVD / DMA thing.  and since no one in #ubuntu+1 seems to want to help me test the upgrader, I'll just hope for better luck when I reinstall in a few days.  thanks all, off to make some dinner01:10
nosrednaekimhads: go to #kubuntu-devel and report there.01:10
hadsnosrednaekim: Thanks for the confirm, I'll post it up.01:10
hadsOK, even better.01:10
nosrednaekimeljefe: you could just use the command line updater01:10
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eljefenosrednaekim: I don't really care about the upgrade, I want to bug test :)01:11
nosrednaekimah... well seems the upgrader itself is buggy ;)01:11
Daisuke_Idowell, back to java lab01:11
Daisuke_Idoi have...  4 hours and 48 minutes to finish and submit this01:12
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: have fun01:12
Daisuke_Idoit'll take me about 30 minutes max :)01:12
eljefeok01:12
nosrednaekimeljefe: believe me... you're not the only one :)01:12
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AudriilThis is the help channel, right?01:16
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blendtuxyes it is Audriil01:17
AudriilI've got a bit of a problem...01:17
hellcattravare sources list in ubuntu similar to livna repos in fedora? is it the same concept?01:18
hellcattravas in where you get packages from?01:18
Roeyfor an NVidia GeForce4 Ti4200, where do I get the GLX drivers from?01:18
hellcattravand I'm correct in that you can't mix them?01:18
AudriilCan someone tell me how to fix my dual monitors?01:18
hellcattraveven thoughGNOME in both has add/remove software?01:18
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ScuniziRoey, you should be able to get the Gforce drivers in synaptic.01:19
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nosrednaekimRoey: repositories01:19
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ScuniziRoey, sorry.. adept..01:19
RoeyScunizi:  na, doesn't work.  I need the legacy drivers, and Kubuntu/Ubuntu messes up with them.01:19
Roeynosrednaekim, Scunizi:  where can I get the drivers off NVidia's site?01:19
nosrednaekimRoey: don't01:19
ScuniziRoey, strange I thought the legacy driver were still in there.01:19
Roeynosrednaekim:  I've tried a billion+1 times already with the packages; they don't work.01:20
Roeyit's like01:20
RoeyI could spend money on a newer card01:20
Roeybut then01:20
AudriilCan someone help me fix twinveiw?01:20
RoeyI'd need a power lead for it01:20
Roeyand all my power leads are going to other things.01:20
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enixim am trying to use winpopup via kopete, it keeps asking me if my samba server is running. i have no problem doing file transfers, or browsing network, ant ideas?01:20
RoeyAlso, I don't have a 400W power supply, so I'd need to change that, too.01:20
RoeyAnd then I'd need to reconnect my motherboard.01:20
RoeyIt's such a bloody mess.01:20
AudriilDual monitor.  Don't work.  Someone help, please?01:21
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nosrednaekimRoey: you don't need a power lead for most cards01:22
bigbhaihello01:23
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Roeynosrednaekim:  I'm just looking for a fast NVidia AGP card01:24
Roeythat doesn't require a 400W power supply.01:24
RoeyI have an antec trupower35001:24
nosrednaekimRoey: look on www.newegg.com they have some cheap older cards that are still really nice01:25
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AudriilDoes someone know how to make twinview recognize the fact that a computer has two monitors? (i.e. so it maximizes to one, rather than both)01:25
ScuniziRoey, the 6200's have gone way down in price but I don't know if they require a seperate pwr connector.01:25
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ScuniziAudriil, so you want one large screen? or two unique screens?01:26
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AudriilThank you!01:26
AudriilI don't want two discrete X server screens01:26
Audriilsimply for my display manager to regonize that there are two screens01:27
AudriilNow when I maximize a winodw, it maximizes across both screens01:27
nosrednaekimScunizi: we got some 7200's which don't need power...01:27
Audriil(using twinview, nvidia 7600 GT)01:27
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Roeynosrednaekim:  I don't knwo which ones01:28
Roeythat's the problem.01:28
RoeyBut anyway01:28
AudriilTwinview worked in that sense before I reinstalled,; now it doesn't.01:28
Roeynosrednaekim, Scunizi:  this worked fine a little while ago.01:28
nosrednaekimRoey: ok...let me see01:28
ScuniziOk.. twinview is the issue.. and not the right thing to use.. look into xinerama to accomplish that.. however with the new gutsy, I've read that xinerama won't be avilable only xrandr01:28
RoeyAll I need is the GLX driver.01:28
RoeyI don't really wanna psend more money on an issue that's just a software issue.01:28
AudriilTwinview worked fine for me before, just changed now.01:28
Scunizinosrednaekim, are they agp? or pci?01:28
nosrednaekimScunizi: hummm not sure. maybe pci-x01:29
Scunizinosrednaekim, the agp versions need the extra boost.. I have a 6600 oc. and had to bump my pwr supply..01:29
AudriilIt worked when I ran ubuntu, and ceased to work with kubuntu.01:29
nosrednaekimah... ok01:29
AudriilAlthough it may be because of all the configuration I did in GNOME01:30
enixim am trying to use winpopup via kopete, it keeps asking me if my samba server is running. i have no problem doing file transfers, or browsing network, ant ideas?01:30
AudriilI forget how I got it to work; it just did when I ran nVidia conf01:30
Audriil...in ubuntu, that is.01:30
ScuniziAudriil, could be.. I got it working last year on gnome but have since replaced my crt's with 1 lcd and I can't remember the specifics.01:30
Audriilhmm01:31
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ScuniziAudriil, there is a setup think in kubuntu for activating 2 monitors.. have you looked at that?01:31
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AudriilI run both LCDs, but one through a analog to igital adaptor01:31
Audriilgeforce 7600 has one analog out and one digital out.01:31
hellcattravhey in synaptic i tried getting clamav and got errors01:31
ScuniziAudriil, same with my 660001:31
hellcattravhas anyone else encounterd this?01:31
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Scunizihellcattrav, you have a virus... :) (kidding.. just kidding)01:32
AudriilI can activate them fine, Scunizi, I just can't get them to be seen as seperate monitors.01:32
hellcattravand on clamav website it mentions that its a mail scanner, is there another scanner to run antivirus on?01:32
hellcattravor am i thinking to deep about this?01:32
nosrednaekim!virus01:32
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2101:32
ScuniziAudriil, I understand.. sorry..01:33
nosrednaekimhellcattrav: all you really need is a good firewall,01:33
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AudriilI did manage to get my linux infect once, actually.01:33
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AudriilIt was quite difficult...01:33
nosrednaekimAudriil: how?01:33
AudriilWent to a virus archive site, and downloaded all 10 linux viruses....01:33
Scunizinosrednaekim, maybe he want to keep his Win$ friends clean with his emails... that's why I use it.01:33
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nosrednaekimyeah01:34
nosrednaekimAudriil: lol01:34
AudriilBasically the only was01:34
Audriilway*01:34
hellcattravyer01:34
AudriilDid some one time damage; just hasd to run Fsck once01:34
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AudriilSo you don't know how to fix the problem, Scunizi?01:35
ScuniziAudriil, sorry no.01:35
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AudriilI think I'll just see if I can get it to work in ubuntu (reinstall and dual boot), then see if what I did there can apply to kde, Scunizi.01:35
AudriilAnyways, thanks for trying, Scunizi.01:36
ScuniziAudriil, how bout sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:36
Scunizithen just change sessions?01:36
underdog5004so, is there a reason I can't have 2 network interfaces up at once? I have ppp0 active, but I also want to use eth0 for my lan...any way to get this to work?01:36
MinatakuAV software is best used for things like Windows programs to run in WINE01:36
MinatakuWhy deal with minor problems when you can avoid them instead?01:36
Audriilgah, no.  I get app cluttering and stuff, Scunizi.01:36
nosrednaekimunderdog5004: yeah there is..01:36
underdog5004which is?01:37
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ScuniziAudriil, i know what you mean.. that's what I do.. good luck!01:37
AudriilI hate having two DE's installed with their associated packages, Scunizi.01:37
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AudriilThanks, Scunizi.01:37
Scunizinp01:37
underdog5004ugh, 17 second ping01:37
AudriilI don't suppose anyone else would know how to fix a problem with twinview?01:37
ScuniziAudriil, try #ubuntu.. might apply.01:38
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underdog5004nosrednaekim, what's the reason? or if you meant solution, what's the solution?01:38
Audriilk, I'll try that, Scunizi.01:38
nosrednaekimunderdog5004: not sure ;) google it.01:38
underdog5004lol01:38
AudriilHow do I change channels?01:38
underdog5004thanks01:38
nosrednaekimunderdog5004: it can be done... I have seen people doing it before,but I don't personally know01:39
ScuniziAudriil, /join #ubuntu01:39
Audriilthanks01:39
underdog5004ok...bummer01:39
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underdog5004my dsl modem went out, and I'm stuck on dialup...but I also want to watch movies that're on my server...boo hoo01:39
AudriilHey, does anyone know how to fix nVidia Twinview related problems?01:40
Scuniziunderdog5004, when you find the answer you're going to need to think about whether or not you want to provide the lan internet access through your machine..01:40
underdog5004Audriil, #ubuntu-effects , maybe01:40
Audriilk01:40
underdog5004yeah...I don't think so...it's slow enough with just one machine...01:40
Audriilunderdog5004, It's not joining that channel when I type /join #ubuntu-effects01:41
sstchurusing Dolphin for the first time, and I keep getting this: "Unable to save bookmarks in /home/sstchur/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml."  Anyone know why?01:41
nosrednaekimsstchur: are you on gutsy?01:42
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Scuniziunderdog5004, although I think you can manually flip back and forth between the two nics, if you're on the lan I wonder if you can bind the other nick to certain apps only, like FF, update etc..01:42
Audriilunderdog5004, oops, nevermind.01:42
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underdog5004Scunizi, when I bring up eth0, ppp0 goes down until I ifdown eth001:43
Scuniziunderdog5004, that would be understandable..01:44
nosrednaekimunderdog5004: what are you using to bring them up and down?01:44
Scuniziunderdog5004, do you want the machines on the Lan to have internet access?01:44
sstchurnosrednaekim: yes01:45
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nosrednaekimsstchur: well support for that is officailly on #ubuntu+1.HOWEVER  I can help you here.01:46
underdog5004nosrednaekim, sudo ifup/ifdown eth001:46
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nosrednaekimunderdog5004: use "ifconfig eth0 up"01:46
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sstchurnosrednaekim: oh ok... sorry01:46
underdog5004Scunizi, no, I don't care about that, I just want to have my box recognize my lan AND be able to go online simultaneously01:46
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underdog5004nosrednaekim, unfortunately, I'm downloading a 42Mb file...can't really test anything right now01:47
nosrednaekimsstchur: try running this "kate /home/sstchur/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml"01:47
nosrednaekimunderdog5004: lol.01:47
Scuniziunderdog5004, why not use the router as the interface for all and disable internet access to the remaining machines in the router? I'd be a little easier.01:47
snowdonkeyIs there a way to see which folders are taking up the most space on my system?01:47
underdog5004nosrednaekim, nvm, tested it, and it looks good! thank you!01:47
underdog5004Scunizi, I'm on _dial_ _up_, ha ha01:48
nosrednaekimsnowdonkey: yeah... there is a disk usage program somewhere.01:48
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nosrednaekimunderdog5004: so am I:)01:48
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underdog5004nosrednaekim, hmm, I did the ifconfig eth0 up, but it didn't grab an IP...01:48
Scuniziunderdog5004, ouch.. with an internal modem or external hooked to your machine with an ethernet cable?01:49
nosrednaekimunderdog5004: "sudo dhclient eth0"01:49
underdog5004Scunizi, internal01:49
Scuniziunderdog5004, you're really making this tough.. :)01:49
snowdonkeynosrednaekim: Thanks, apparently the command is "du".01:49
nosrednaekimsnowdonkey: well there is THAT way too01:49
snowdonkeynosrednaekim: hehe01:50
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billytwowillyand software raid gurus here? I have a raid 5 array that has 4 300 GB hard drives in it and I want to replace them with 4 500 GB drives. I think I can do this with the grow command by pulling out one hard drive at a time and rebuilding the array on 300 GB partitions on the 500 GB drives, then growing the reiserfs partition, but I'm not sure how exactly to do this..01:52
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nosrednaekimyikes!01:55
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Scunizibillytwowilly, might be worth asking in #ubuntu-server01:56
billytwowillyheh, the number of ubuntu channels is exploding;)01:56
billytwowillythanks.01:56
Scunizinp01:56
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feierfoxhi hi01:58
holycowhey guys01:58
nosrednaekimhi feierfox01:58
holycowi installed kde from repos ... the instructions in the topic didn't work01:58
feierfoxif i download the kubuntu RC now, will it be the same as the official release?01:58
holycowdoes anyone know how to give kde4 a try?01:58
nosrednaekim!kde401:58
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php01:58
holycowi mean i installed kde401:58
holycowno stop that shit01:58
holycowthose fucking instructions are wrong01:58
holycowthey don't work01:58
nosrednaekimumm yeah they do.01:58
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holycowwhatever01:59
holycowi'm not interested in wha tyou have to say01:59
holycowi'm hoping to chat with people that have it working on latest guts ... within say the last couple of weeks01:59
LjLholycow: perhaps you aren't, but how many times have i kicked you before because of language?01:59
holycowLjL: that wasn't for you actually02:00
holycowthe kick was within policy, i accept it02:00
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nosrednaekimholycow:umm I have it working RIGHT NOW.02:00
LjLholycow, but then again, kubuntu.org *does* explain how to make it work. what do you expect people to tell you, unless you explain exactly *what* you're stuck on?02:00
holycowLjL: sure, except it doesn't work ... let me pop open that page again02:01
nosrednaekim!doesn'twork02:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:01
nosrednaekim!doesn't work02:01
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.02:01
LjLholycow: ok, it doesn't work, but does it deserve such a reaction? you asked "how to make it work" without specifying, you can only get that factoid from any reasonable person02:02
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holycowLjL: i just hate arrogant people that don't wait for one to finish explaining02:03
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LjL!enter | holycow... :-)02:03
ubotuholycow... :-): Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:03
holycowin any  case kdebase-workspace refuses to install02:03
LjLwhen you hit enter, one assumes you're finished explaining02:03
holycowLjL: oh please, stop right now02:03
nosrednaekimholycow: ah! what is the error?02:04
holycowyou aren't in any position to lecture me on how to type02:04
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LjLyes i am02:04
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nosrednaekimso let it be written so let it be done ;)02:04
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jim__rI'm trying to compile a program but get the following message. Any idea where the config file its looking for is: could not find any of CONFIG=, kernelconfig, /proc/config.gz or /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-386/build/.config, /usr/src/linux-2.6.20-16-386/.config or /usr/src/linux/.config02:11
jim__rplease provide a valid 2.6 linux kernel config file02:11
nosrednaekimjim__r: run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"02:13
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jim__rnoserednaekim : I already have that installed02:14
nosrednaekimjim__r: odd.02:14
nosrednaekimwhat program are you trying to compile?02:14
jim__rit is dmx4linux02:15
nosrednaekimwhich does..02:15
jim__rsorry , its software that allows one to control lights if you have the correct gizmo attached to your computer02:16
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jim__rcould it just be looking in the wrong place for that config file02:17
nosrednaekimjim__r: yeah... could be. might try asking on their dev mailinglist.02:17
jim__rdo you know where the linux kernel config file lives with kubuntu02:18
nosrednaekimjim__r: odd... I have that config file..02:18
jim__rstrange where is it on ur machine02:18
nosrednaekim /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-386/build/.config02:19
nosrednaekimbut I am running gutsy.02:19
nosrednaekimwell rather.. its in 2.6.22, but you get the idea02:19
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jim__rok I'm on feisty, maybe I can download it?02:20
jim__rcd /lib/modules02:20
nosrednaekimjim__r: just a sec. let me try to find which package owns that file02:20
jim__roops meant to be the terminal02:21
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jim__rnosrednaekin: Thanks a lot02:21
NickPrestaI have a /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build/.config file on Feisty, if it matters.02:23
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jim__rhmm , I have one also under my generic kernels but not under the 386 kernel02:24
nosrednaekimjim__r:ah... I was looking in generic..02:24
jim__rso wonder why its not also under 386 tree02:25
nosrednaekimodd02:25
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jim__rI downloaded the 386 kernel after having problems with the SMP kernel02:26
nosrednaekimdpkg doesn't list a package that contains that file.02:27
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jim__rok guess I'll have to go file hunting02:28
jim__rI wonder if i can use the generic file?02:29
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jim__rya if I do it ,It would just be to compile, then it would be gone02:31
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nosrednaekimBRB02:31
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AudriilCan someone help? My windows maximize to both monitors...02:33
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DARKGuyhey guys, is there a reason why everytime I put a CD/DVD in my drive, a directory with the CD/DVD's label is created instead of being mounted in /media/cdrom (or /media/cdrom0) but instead in /media/MYCDLABEL - is there a way to revert it to the original behaviour?02:35
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AudriilWhat's the KDE equivalent of metacity --replace?02:35
AudriilI tried QT --replace; it didn't work02:35
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AudriilMy window decorator just segfaulted02:36
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AudriilHow does one upgrade to gutsy from fiesty? (through the terminal)02:38
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AudriilDoes anyone here know how to dist upgrade (to gutsy) in the terminal?02:41
LjL!gutsy > Audriil    (Audriil, see the private message from Ubotu)02:41
Audriil<LjL> Sorry, my window manager seqfaulted; had to quit konversation02:41
Audriil<LjL> I missed the PM02:41
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LjL!gutsy > Audriil    (Audriil, see the private message from Ubotu)02:41
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feierfox!firefox02:42
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins02:42
feierfoxah02:42
feierfoxi mean02:42
feierfox!feierfox02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about feierfox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:42
feierfox\o/02:42
Audriil<LjL> I missed the PM02:42
LjLAudriil: i've sent it again02:43
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LjL!gutsy02:43
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information02:43
Audriil<LjL> nvm, sorry02:43
Audriil<LjL> I thought that it would pertain to feisty, as I want to know the *fiesty* command which one uses to dist-upg, not the *gutsy* one.02:44
Audriil<LjL> How about you just tell me. please?02:44
LjLAudriil: nope, upgrading to gutsy is a gutsy question, especially since gutsy is still experimental software02:44
LjLwe aren't encouraging people to use it, unless they are very well aware it should only be used for testing and bug hunting, and prepared to have it mess up everything02:45
LjLwhich is why #ubuntu+1 is there02:45
Audriil<LjL> Really?  Even though said command is executed in fiesty?02:45
LjLAudriil, yes02:45
Audriil<LjL> Even though it's less than a week to release?02:45
LjLyes02:45
LjLan update could easily break X in a week.02:45
Audriil<LjL> Even though... damn, I'm all out of "even though"'s....02:45
LjLAudriil, just ask in #ubuntu+1, not that hard02:46
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Audriil<LjL> I did... just waiting, now.02:46
sethAudriil, just go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades02:46
Audriil<seth> Thanks02:46
sethcheers02:46
sethAudriil, you forgot "even though it's pointless for people to arbitrarily withhold information when you only have a simple question" :P02:47
dick-richardsonI swapped sound cards and the new one works w/no configuring. do I need to run 'depmod -a' or anything?02:48
Audriil<seth> >_>02:48
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LjLseth: it's not pointless. people in #ubuntu+1 have actually *tried* the stuff, we (as a rule of thumb) haven't.02:49
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maybebabyhi02:50
hellcattravOi ive gotten Thunderbird 1.5 installed and added my gmail account with the gmail help from google..but its not receiving messages02:51
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maybebabydoes anyone have kde4 working on gutsy? the instructions in the topic don't work02:51
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dick-richardsonmaybebaby: try ubuntu+102:51
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maybebabythats gutsy more specifically rather than kde ... they don't know02:52
pestilencewhen i click on links in akregator, it opens links in firefox.  but for some reason, firefox has started grabbing focus when i click on links in akregator.  this is really annoying.  does anybody know how to fix this?02:53
dick-richardsonnot sure,either :/02:53
hellcattraverm...hey how do i get thunderbird 2.0?02:54
hellcattravis it in the repos?02:54
DaSkreechmaybebaby: #kubuntu-devel02:55
maybebabyif you are using gutsy it is hellcattrav02:55
hellcattravfeisty02:55
maybebabywait for gutsy02:55
DaSkreech!info thunderbird02:55
ubotuPackage thunderbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:55
DaSkreech!info mozilla-thunderbird02:55
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ubotumozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.13-0ubuntu0.7.04 (feisty), package size 10660 kB, installed size 29752 kB02:56
MinatakuHeya, DaSkreech02:56
DaSkreech!info mozilla-thunderbird gutsy02:56
nosrednaekimmaybebaby: I have it working.02:56
ubotumozilla-thunderbird: Transition package for mozilla-thunderbird rename. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 58 kB, installed size 104 kB02:56
DaSkreechMinataku: Yo!02:56
hellcattravok..cos im trying out GNU/PGP and am wanting to learn to to include it with emails...02:56
hellcattravapperantly thunderbird 2.0 has something to do with this?02:56
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nosrednaekimhellcattrav: you need the enigma plugin for thunderbird02:57
hellcattravyer02:57
hellcattravnosrednaekim:  thats it..but it works for 2.0+ only02:57
pestilencehellcattrav: i am pretty sure you can encrypt emails in the version of thunderbird in fiesty02:58
nosrednaekimhellcattrav: ah...well, as I said before, go to www.getdeb.net and get 2.002:58
pestilenceor edgy.  or dapper.  or warty.02:58
pestilenceif it doesn't work in thunderbird, use evolution02:59
pestilencei know it has worked in evolution for a LONG time02:59
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pestilenceit's even in the FAQ03:00
pestilencehttp://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq#use_encrypt03:00
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DaSkreechmaybebaby: Over here :)03:02
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MinatakuWho wants a funny picture to offset this slow Sunday night?03:05
Minatakuhttp://fchan.us/src/c_1191729730451_firefox_plugins.jpg03:05
MinatakuEnjoy :303:05
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MinatakuWhat?03:08
DaSkreechShould I just ignore the you must be over 18 to see this site page?03:08
nosrednaekimI think the point was to look at Minataku'sLINK03:08
Minatakulol03:08
MinatakuThe picture is safe03:08
MinatakuThere are sections on the site that are adult-oriented03:09
Minataku"c" isn't one of them03:09
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: It redirects me to a disclaimer page that says I must be 18 or over03:09
MinatakuThat's funny03:09
DaSkreechXXX is?03:09
MinatakuIt seems to work for most people03:09
MinatakuSans-redirect03:09
DaSkreechMaybe My KDE is just smarter03:09
MinatakuThat's how I got the link, direct to the picture03:09
MinatakuDaSkreech: Like I said, the site has sections that are both clean and adult03:11
MinatakuThe link is to a picture from a clean section03:11
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nosrednaekimadding a whole new meaning to the defination of KDE as "user/family friendly"03:11
MinatakuOr censorship-laden03:12
DaSkreechAh C for clean03:12
MinatakuWhich would be so totally against the Linux philosophy03:12
MinatakuIt's actually C for Cute, I believe03:12
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=== nosrednaekim thinks that could describe some other things..
MinatakuNo, it is Clean03:13
MinatakuMy bad03:13
MinatakuI haven't gone there in a while03:13
Minatakulol03:13
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DaSkreechMinataku: http://www.cracked.com/jp/net02.gif03:14
MinatakuNice picture. (It's busted)03:14
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MinatakuCome to think of it, "Clean" is the ONLY truly worksafe board there03:16
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MinatakuOh well, the link is to a picture that's clean, that's the point03:17
Minatakulol03:17
GuHHHhow can i make my system boot by network?03:17
Minataku!pxe03:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pxe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:17
MinatakuGrrr03:17
Minataku!netboot03:17
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues03:17
MinatakuYou stupid bot03:17
Minataku!diskless03:17
nosrednaekim!botsnack03:17
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!03:17
MinatakuOh, screw you, ubotu03:17
MinatakuIgnore me...03:17
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MinatakuSorry. X303:18
MinatakuI'm incredibly bored tonight, is all03:18
DaSkreechMinataku: Play with the Amarok bot03:18
DaSkreechIt's actually made to play back03:18
MinatakuIs it smarter?03:18
MinatakuAh03:18
Minatakulol03:18
MinatakuSay, DaSkreech, did you actually get to the picture?03:19
DaSkreechYes03:19
MinatakuThat's all? :P03:20
MinatakuI mean, I didn't draw it, but come on, comment... I'M BORED03:20
Minataku>.<03:20
MinatakuThere aren't even people asking for help03:20
MinatakuSort of03:20
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MinatakuGuHHH: PCs typically use a method called "PXE" for network booting03:20
MinatakuBut if the systems have disks, why bother with it?03:20
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blackpantherhello...i was wondering if anyone could give any information on a zyxel p-623r-t1 router with kununtu...relating to drivers?03:21
DaSkreechcause you want a network boot from a server ?03:21
MinatakuPCs are frickin' ABYSMAL for such tasks03:22
stdinblackpanther: router?? routers don't need drivers03:22
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MinatakuThey were always meant to local boot, and, like many features bodged onto PCs, network booting is a disgusting hack03:22
blackpantherstdin: kbuntu is not picking up the router03:22
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Minatakublackpanther: This router, does it have an HTTP interface?03:23
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MinatakuIf so, hook it up as a standalone device and use that03:23
blackpantherstdin: yes03:23
MinatakuLikely, there won't be any way for you to connect to it via USB or somesuch, given it'll more than likely have a proprietary interface for such03:24
MinatakuAccessing it should be as easy as hooking up the ethernet cable and typing the IP address of the router into a browser03:24
GuHHHMinataku: i want to boot it remotely03:25
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MinatakuGuHHH: You're using it as a diskless workstation?03:25
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GuHHHMinataku: no03:26
nosrednaekim(which should be 192.168.0.1)03:26
jdongGuHHH: or do you just want to turn it on remotely?03:26
Minatakunosrednaekim: Not always03:26
GuHHHjdong: yeah, sorry... turn it on :)03:26
MinatakuWhich is why I didn't specify03:26
MinatakuSome use 192.168.0.003:26
MinatakuSome use other LAN-reserved addresses03:26
nosrednaekimMinataku: whoops... its 1.1 ;)03:26
MinatakuIn fact, mine you can tell it to use whatever you want03:27
jdongGuHHH: what you would be looking for is Wake-on-LAN then03:27
GuHHHjdong: how can i do it?03:27
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nosrednaekimit has to be in your BIOS03:27
jdongGuHHH: you need both a wake-on-LAN client, and to have Wake-on-LAN enabled on the target computer03:27
MinatakuThe old version03:27
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MinatakuARM7 and two antennas03:27
jdongGuHHH: instructions for activating wake-on-LAN vary from hardware to hardware03:27
Minatakuvs the new one, ARM9 with one antenna03:28
GuHHHjdong: okay, but how can i wake it up?03:28
GuHHHhmmm03:28
MinatakuNot that it matters, both are EoL03:28
Minatakulol03:28
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jdongGuHHH: where will you be waking it up from? Same computer? Across the internet?03:29
jdongGuHHH: by same computer, I eant to say same network03:29
GuHHHjdong: same network03:29
jdong!info wakeonlan | GuHHH03:29
jdongtry that package03:29
GuHHHcomputer 1 -> router -> computer203:29
ubotuguhhh: wakeonlan: Sends 'magic packets' to wake-on-LAN enabled ethernet adapters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.41-6 (feisty), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB03:29
GuHHHjdong: thanks03:30
GuHHH:)03:30
jdongnot a problem03:30
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geniiDaSkreech: Might not be a bad idea, as I'm at home and not work :)03:37
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rrittenhouseI won a book  - "Foundations of Qt Development" (by Apress) - I am not a KDE guy but im wondering if anybody here would happen to have another book to trade for it...? Maybe a GTK book or Python.. something more suited for me.03:46
nosrednaekimrrittenhouse: try #kubuntu-devel03:46
rrittenhousek thx03:46
DaSkreechor #kde-devel03:47
blackpantherstdin & minataku: thanks for the help...we think it might be a network card issue rather than a router issue03:47
nosrednaekimindeed03:47
MinatakuAh03:47
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MinatakuNo problem03:47
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kimian#NZBsRus03:49
dorkfaceSay I wanted to make  a kubuntu live CD, do I just have to burn the .iso to a CD, or are there other files/programs that I would need?03:49
jdongdorkface: what do you mean? Burn a Kubuntu ISO you downloaded, or actually customize the CD's contents?03:50
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dorkfaceI mean so that it acts like a Live CD.  Whenever I got ubuntu cd's from my teacher, there was a live cd, and install CD, so I assumed that the proccess of creation was different03:51
nosrednaekimthe liveCD is now the same as the install CD03:51
dorkfaceah, ok03:51
dorkfacethanks03:51
nosrednaekimof course, there is the alternate installer.03:52
dorkface??03:52
nosrednaekimfor crazy things like RAID and such03:52
dorkfaceah, I don't need that then03:52
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nosrednaekimand if you have problemswith your graphics card with the liveCD03:53
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Les_Caesarshey. I've got a problem. I recently took my hard drive out, put it in an enclosure, failed to prevent it from rattling, and put it back in. Now, for some odd reason, my resolution is only 1024 by 768!03:54
Les_CaesarsI want 1280by 1024 back. How?03:55
blahblahblahLes_Caesars sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:55
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Les_Caesarsblahblahblah: is there another way to do it? Everything works, and I just want to change the resolution. reconfiguring xorg would mess up a whole bunch of stuff03:59
xeviousLes_Caesars: system settings -> monitor & display, check that your monitor is correctly defined03:59
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ekrengelLes_Caesars: you dont have to reconfigure the whole thing, you can just add the resolution into your xorg.conf04:03
ekrengeljust edit the file04:03
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Les_Caesarsekrengel: I tried. But it doesn't show up in the GUI control panels...04:04
fjpmhi guys04:04
nosrednaekimfjpm: hey04:05
ekrengelLes_Caesars: can you do a pastebin of it?04:05
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Les_Caesarsyeah04:05
Les_Caesars!paste04:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:05
fjpmi wanna know if any of u have the answer to my problem..well i recently install kubuntu on my laptop a gateway mt3423 but i don't have sound and wireless04:06
fjpmany idea how to solve it?04:06
Les_Caesarshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40670/04:07
Les_Caesars@ ekrengel04:07
=== technodork love ubuntu :D
ekrengelhmm yeh it looks right04:08
ekrengeldid you restart x?04:08
ekrengeland still dont see it?04:08
fjpmno04:08
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Les_Caesarsyeah04:08
ekrengelyou could try taking out the other resolutions, so its just 1280x102404:09
ekrengelbut that might mess it up04:10
hellcattravOi does anyone use open PGP, enigmail with thunderbird?04:10
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ekrengelif you try that make backups of xorg.conf04:10
ekrengelso you can revert back to it in recovery console04:11
Les_Caesarsgot any other ideas?04:11
ekrengelit might be the driver your using too04:12
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Les_Caesarsit worked this morning. It changed when my hard drive got a beating this afternoon04:12
lee__I enabled the drivers, iam goig to restart....but I have a bad feeling about this04:13
lee__I'll probalby have to reload ths system04:13
nosrednaekimlee__: :)04:13
lee__so do I do full restart?04:13
nosrednaekimyeah04:14
lee__well, heres looking at you...see ya lall.....when I reload04:14
lee__if Iam not back youll know why lol04:14
nosrednaekimyeah :)04:14
ekrengelLes_Caesars: what happened?04:14
DaSkreechhellcattrav: Either jump to gutsy or hit up getdev for TB 2.004:15
Les_Caesarsekrengel: no luck.04:15
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ekrengelwhat happened to your hard drive?04:15
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nosrednaekimDaSkreech: he already has 2.004:16
Les_Caesarsekrengel: I put it in an enclosure to bring with me. It got rattled a whole lot because of other people handling it that don't udnerstand the concept of "fragile"04:16
DaSkreechAh Ok04:16
hellcattravyer04:16
hellcattravim sort of bored its 10:16 pm and im monkeying around with GNU/PGP and engimail...04:17
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loki_i hath forgotten my root password.  how can i go about changing it?04:17
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hellcattravso if ive got this right...if i click sign message then a bunch of text gets wrapped around it...04:17
nosrednaekim!root04:17
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:17
nosrednaekimhellcattrav: yeah04:18
hellcattravand encyrption renders it unreaadable04:18
loki_uh04:18
ekrengelLes_Caesars: lol that sucks...I dont see how doing that would mess up your resolution04:18
ekrengelthats weird04:18
loki_i can use sudo on my account but i want root access04:18
loki_like access to the user04:18
Les_Caesarsekrengel: essential files corrupting, and Linux compensating for them without telling me?04:18
hellcattravbut I just clicked some button and this time a whole big block ot text game after the --end pgp sig---04:18
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hellcattravlabled --begin pgp public key block---04:19
loki_i got it04:19
jdongloki_: any particular reason why you don't want to use sudo?04:20
jdongit's the recommended way of gaining elevated priviledges04:20
ekrengelLes_Caesars: what kind of ati card do you have?04:20
Les_CaesarsRadeon 955004:20
loki_i would just like to know the root password04:20
loki_i don't normally get into root on my machine04:20
loki_it's nice to know I can if i want to04:20
fjpmany idea guys how to install my realtek wireless card driver rtl-8185?04:20
blahblahblahthere is no root on ubuntu04:20
jdongloki_: ah, ok. Ubuntu does not have a root password by default (account is disabled), but you can always set one if you really wanted to04:21
geniiloki_: There isn't a root password04:21
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loki_there's a root user right?04:21
blahblahblahno there isn't04:21
loki_cause i thought i was root04:21
loki_su root04:21
blahblahblahno your not04:21
loki_you're not your04:21
Les_Caesarsekrengel: brb. Restarting X04:21
loki_:P04:21
jdongloki_: there is a root user, but that is not your current user account04:21
loki_yea, i log in as a different user04:22
jdongloki_: the only way to be handed access to the root user is via sudo via an account in the "admin" group04:22
loki_i just wanted to make sure i could get into root if i wanted to04:22
xeviousis it possible to get the firefox-ish control+enter adds www. and .com to whatever you've typed in the address bar functionality in konqueror?04:22
blahblahblahloki_ the first user created on ubuntu has effectively root priviledges04:22
loki_well i have to use sudo for apt-get04:22
blahblahblahits just that each of the commands you would normally run as root you run as sudo04:22
jdongblahblahblah: more accurately, "can gain root priviledges"04:22
blahblahblahall other accounts created after that ... by default settings, are restricted from sudo04:23
loki_i have a question about cron jobs.  there's a folder you can put your shell scripts in and they'll run hourly/daily etc right?04:23
sub[t] rnlor you can do "sudo su"04:23
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jdongloki_: /etc/cron.*04:23
loki_jdong: i had trouble with that, it wouldn't run my scripts04:23
jdongloki_: if they are chmodded +x then they will run04:24
loki_ah04:24
loki_what if they need root access?04:24
jdongsub[t] rnl: it's generally looked down upon04:24
jdongloki_: everything in cron.* is run as root04:24
loki_i just made a simple one that would apt-get update and apt-get upgrade04:24
loki_o04:24
jdongloki_: note you probably need to specify full paths to the commands you want to run04:24
sub[t] rnljdong: just showing other options04:25
jdongloki_: IIRC cron's environment has a very bare-bones $PATH04:25
hellcattravcheers lal04:25
hellcattravim off to bed04:25
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sub[t] rnll8rs hellcattrav04:25
jdongloki_: note that Ubuntu has that kind of functionality built in04:25
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loki_jdong : where at?04:25
jdongloki_: System->Admin->Software Sources04:25
loki_how would i do it in a CLI only environment04:26
jdongloki_: see Update tab -- it can perform a security update nightly04:26
jdongloki_: at a CLI-only, I'd just use a cronjob04:26
loki_ah ok04:26
loki_jdong : sometimes it asks if you want to continue and will pause.  will it do that if i have it setup as a cronjob?04:26
jdongloki_: I'm just trying to point out that a default GUI ubuntu install already performs the "apt-get update" nightly, so having a cronjob there will conflict a default GUI install04:26
jdongloki_: you need to spawn apt in a noninteractive mode04:27
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jdongloki_: apt-get has multiple levels of -y flags, and DEBCONF_FRONTEND should = noninteractive, etc04:27
jdongloki_: IIRC apt-get is smart enough to realize that cron is not interactive and not bother to ask any questions04:28
loki_jdong : ok cool, you've been very helpful04:28
jdongloki_: sure thing04:29
loki_jdong : if i set the gui version to auto update/upgrade is there a box i can have pop up, non-intrusively to let me know?04:30
loki_like just slides up from the taskbar?04:30
jdongloki_: Ubuntu already does that by default04:31
jdongloki_: if there's available updates, a notifier icon pops up in the tray and a bubble shows "New Updates Available"04:31
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ekrengelLes_Caesars: nothing?04:33
Les_Caesarsekrengel: well, I managed to fix the resolution problem but fuck up my 3D acceleration.04:33
Les_Caesarserm!04:33
Les_Caesars*censor!*04:33
Les_Caesarssorry.04:33
ekrengellol04:33
ekrengeldri not loading?04:33
ekrengeli have the same problem with my card now04:33
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ekrengeli dont really know how to fix it04:34
ekrengelits kinda annoying because it makes my video choppy04:37
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blahblahblahokay so04:43
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draik!ipod04:46
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod04:46
ekrengelLes_Caesars: i know what you have to do04:48
ekrengelto get it working04:48
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Les_Caesarsekrengel: yeah?04:51
Les_Caesarsekrengel: what do I need to do?04:51
Les_Caesarsekrengel: brb. Restroom04:51
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dick-richardsonhow do I get a vncserver running on display 0?04:52
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ekrengelLes_Caesars: add these lines to the end of your xorg.conf04:52
ekrengelSection "Extensions"04:53
ekrengelOption "Composite" "false"04:53
ekrengelEndSection04:53
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c876I need to install GRUB04:56
c876without installing kubuntu again04:56
Lankenhi, I'm trying to configure kde to use a socks proxy, and I'm not having any luck04:56
DaSkreech!grub04:56
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:56
c876thanks DaSkreech04:57
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Les_Caesarsekrengel: ok04:59
Les_Caesarsekrengel: have you tested to make sure that it works?04:59
surgycan someone give me some tips on dropping the amount of ram my computer uses at idle?04:59
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scienceboy!live CD05:00
ubotuUbuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.05:00
c876oh man I'm so confused05:00
ekrengelLes_Caesars: yeah works for me, and thats is said what has to be done for all ati cards to enable 3D acceleration05:01
Les_Caesarswhat was your source for fidning this out?05:01
Les_Caesarsbecause ubuntu figured out my ati cards by default, actually05:01
c876this only gives me information for fixing the problem with vista >.<05:01
c876I don't have vista :P05:01
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DaSkreechsurgy: Why?05:02
c876I had windows installed, but then decided to have linux installed on an alternate harddrive, but then I decided to install OSX instead.05:03
surgyDaSkreech: i just upgraded my memory just to figure out that even after i upgraded i only have 324 mb free05:03
ekrengelLes_Caesars: its here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI05:03
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c876I had already installed kubuntu and GRUB, so, I can't even get to windows now because I can't boot grub05:03
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Les_Caesarsok05:04
surgyDaSkreech: went from 512mb to 1024mb and still only have 324 mb free05:04
DaSkreechc876: do you have a live CD?05:05
DaSkreechsurgy: that's a good thing05:05
c876yeah, that's what I'm using right now05:05
jdongsurgy: how are you estimating free RAM?05:05
surgyDaSkreech: how?05:05
c876I may have found what I need, so hold on a sec05:05
jdongsurgy: Ubuntu/Linux/any modern, competent OS will use idle RAM to cache data05:05
DaSkreechcause unused RAM is wasted RAM05:06
jdongexactly05:06
jdongI have 2GB of RAM and currently Ubuntu claims "96MB" is "free"05:06
surgyjdong: using kinfo center05:06
c876dang, nevermind, I ALMOST found what I needed05:06
jdongwhich of course is not true -- just the disk cache is using all that05:06
c876I did "sudo grub" and when I hit tab, it gives me a list of commands05:06
jdongsurgy: Free RAM is almost meaningless in modern OS'es05:06
jdongsurgy: it's merely an estimate and doesn't correlate to actual resource utilization in an intuitive way05:07
surgyjdong: lol ok then i dont have any way to tell how much im actually using05:07
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nemesisdoes anyone know if the kde4 beta is working right now?05:07
jdongsurgy: unless the system aggressively goes into swap space, don't obsess over RAM counters :)05:07
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jdongsurgy: same holds true for CPU counters, or any resource counter05:07
jdongsurgy: obsessing over where all the bytes are going is Linux's job, not yours :)05:08
surgyahh05:08
surgylol05:08
surgyi just want to be efficient05:08
jdongyou're the user, you do productive stuff on your computer :)05:08
jdongif system slowdowns get in the way of that, THEN it's time to take a look05:08
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surgylol well im trying to get my fps in my game as high as possible was making sure ram is good05:09
c876the grub loader is giving me error 17: Cannot mount selected partition05:11
surgyget the super grub disk05:12
jdongsurgy: in general, increasing RAM probably won't help with your FPS05:13
jdongsurgy: unless your FPS is around 5 and the mouse is lagging and the disk is grinding like crazy05:13
jdongthen you've got problems ;-)05:13
surgyjdong: well it was reporting that it needed more for the options i wanted05:14
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jdongsurgy: ah, ok, well that's something that the OS's memory counter couldn't really tell you05:15
galathalionwhat do i do with a .bin?05:15
c876run it usually05:16
dick-richardsonanyone know how to get a vncserver running on display :0?05:16
galathalionc876: how do i run it?05:16
surgyjdong: ok well ill trust it for now, it just seams that since i doubled my ram i should see a nice leap in performance and i didnt, then i saw that and i was alarmed05:16
surgyjdong: but i must go now, thank you for all the info05:16
dick-richardsongalathalion: sudo chmod 755 it, then double click05:16
jdongsurgy: no problem05:16
jdonggalathalion: chmod +x file; ./file05:16
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galathalionits didnt work05:18
galathalion-s05:18
galathalioni got this GoogleEarth-thing i wanna use05:18
galathalioni dl GoogleEarthLinux.bin05:19
galathalionand dunno what to do with it05:19
galathalion:S05:19
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geniidick-richardson: http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/x0.html05:21
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GuHHHhey, is there any way to find a line in a file, and add a # to the beggining of the line, by command?07:24
Daisuke-Idowish me luck, testing the upgrade tool.07:24
DaSkreechGuHHH: yes07:24
DaSkreechDaisuke-Ido: Burn baby burn!07:24
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Daisuke-Idothat wasn't very nice...07:25
medivhDaSkreech, do you happen to use Beryl?07:25
DaSkreechDaisuke-Ido: fine fine. Break a leg07:25
DaSkreechmedivh: As little as possible07:26
medivhDaSkreech, not a fan?07:26
DaSkreechI'm hardcore baby!07:26
Daisuke-Idothat seems rather silly to suggest that updating one's software would cause one to break any bones07:26
DaSkreechWith a sweet soft center07:26
DaSkreech Which is kinda anti hardcore...07:26
medivhDaisuke-Ido, I dunno, I've seen software updates cause psychotic frenzy.07:27
DaSkreechDaisuke-Ido: I've been hearing perfect upgrades once you follow the gutsy upgrade instructions and don't have ultra funky stuff installed so go ahead07:27
Daisuke-Idoi have some funkty stuff installed.07:28
Daisuke-Idofunky, too!07:28
DaSkreechsuchas?07:28
Daisuke-Idocompiz fusion through amaranth's repo, wine through budgetdedicated, libfreetype and cairo through dave beckett's repo...07:29
DaSkreechwine should be cool07:30
DaSkreechactually all of those should be alright07:30
Daisuke-Idowine never caused a problem07:30
medivhRebooting, Be right back.07:31
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DaSkreechAnyone uses lftp ?07:33
xeviousi'm worried that cinelerra will mess up my gutsy upgrade07:33
kristjan_DaSkreech: what about external repos if upgrading? - do you change right now to newer version or just disable?07:33
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DaSkreechkristjan_: What?07:34
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kristjan_Das07:34
kristjan_oops07:34
DaSkreechxevious: Got it from a external repo?07:34
DaSkreechkristjan_: upgrade the external repo to gutsy?07:34
kristjan_DaSkreech: say mister M. uses virtualbox repo in feisty07:34
xeviousDaSkreech: it's only available in external repositories.07:34
xeviousDaSkreech: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu07:34
DaSkreechxevious: No You could have installed it manually07:35
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xeviousDaSkreech: ah. rightio07:35
xeviousDaSkreech: duhhhh07:35
kristjan_DaSkreech: how is correct way to behave - change repo of virtualbox to gutsy before upgrade or after?07:35
DaSkreechkristjan_: after. The upgrade process will disable the external repos07:35
DaSkreechso that you should have at least a stable system07:35
kristjan_do the google docs work with konqueror?07:36
DaSkreechThen you can choose which of the repos you want to test a gutsy version on07:36
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DaSkreechkristjan_: Dunno google is kinda konqueror hostile07:36
kristjan_DaSkreech: what happens with feisty virtualbox packages?07:36
kristjan_DaSkreech: are they removed during upgrade process?07:36
DaSkreechkristjan_: If there is a newere version in the main gutsy repos it gets upgraded unless you put a hold on it. Otherwise it remains as is07:37
DaSkreechkristjan_: very few things are removed and only if you agree to it07:37
kristjan_DaSkreech: you were right google docs do not work07:37
DaSkreechand nearly all of them are libs/kernels that you don't /won't use anymore07:37
DaSkreechxevious: ^^ above goes for you too07:38
kristjan_DaSkreech: old kernels can be removed with simple command? or they have to be picked manually?07:39
DaSkreechHmm?07:39
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DaSkreechOh like only having one kernel?07:39
GuHHHdoes it works: sed 's/$(grep /etc/apt/sources.list -i cdrom)/#$(grep /etc/apt/sources.list -i cdrom)' ?07:39
xeviousok07:40
medivh:( sadface I just did the whole dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and when I went into administrator mode under "Monitor and Display" it like...does nothing, no password window comes up :(07:40
DaSkreechmedivh: I don't think that it needs one for that config07:40
DaSkreechof course I also think that it doesn't work at all....07:41
kristjan_DaSkreech: there is "admin" box btw07:41
DaSkreechkristjan_: For ?07:41
kristjan_DaSkreech: system settings> monitor&display07:41
medivhmedivh, it does, to change the monitor and display (Fixing my resolution again) and I click it, so now the admin box is grayed out, with the center of the window greyed out, and just a red ring...and nothing.07:41
kristjan_DaSkreech: see for yourself07:41
medivhI have no idea why I told myself htat07:42
medivhBut ok.07:42
medivhlol07:42
DaSkreechkristjan_: I know that it is there.07:42
kristjan_medivh: you are using wrong thing to use correct resolutions07:42
kristjan_medivh: not sure why it is put where at all07:42
kristjan_medivh: what resolution and refresh rate do you want?07:43
medivhkristjan, huh? Kubuntu doesn't inherently have 1440x900 :P07:43
medivhI'd prefer 75 refresh rate but it wont let me raise it :P07:43
kristjan_medivh: type into konsole    gtf 1440x900 7507:44
kristjan_medivh: no wait       gtf 1440 900 7507:44
medivhMmk O_o so it gave me a print out about the settings.07:44
medivhRelog?07:45
kristjan_medivh: add this modeline       Modeline "1440x900_75.00"  136.49  1440 1536 1688 1936  900 901 904 940  -HSync +Vsync         to the Section "Monitor" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:45
kristjan_medivh: also under Section "Screen" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf add "1440x900_75.00" after "Modes"07:46
kristjan_medivh: are you running feisty?07:46
Daisuke-Idommmkay, glad i'm not on dialup07:46
medivhkristjan, yes :) I'm on my way to xorg, just had to shut my cellphone up.07:47
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(kristjan_/#kubuntu) medivh: no let the old be, add new one07:50
(medivh/#kubuntu) Ok07:50
(kristjan_/#kubuntu) medivh: before you log out and restart x show your xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/07:50
DaSkreechAnyone uses lftp ?07:51
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medivhkristjan, http://pastebin.com/d4d3464c107:52
medivhOh wait, I missed the screen part >.<07:53
kristjan_medivh: look into ection "Screen"07:53
kristjan_medivh: yeah07:53
medivhkristjan, just noticed that, sorry.07:53
kristjan_medivh: put "1440x900_75.00" in front07:53
xeviousmedivh: is this a flatpanel?07:53
medivhxevious, LCD, so...essentially yes.07:54
kristjan_xevious: I hope so, 75Hz is suicide on crt :-)07:54
kristjan_medivh: wait, what for the 75Hz then?07:54
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xeviousmost flatpanels run at 60hz only07:54
kristjan_medivh: I thought it doesn't make a difference on lcd07:54
medivhMine runs at 75, has ever since I got it.07:54
xeviousmedivh: get the manual and check it's native refresh rate07:54
medivh75 is the native.07:55
kristjan_xevious: I doubt 75 will hurt the lcd ;-)07:55
medivhkristjan, I dunno O_O the only reason I ever cared about the refresh rate was that I would get horrible headaches on my old monitor if it was too low O_O07:55
kristjan_medivh: if you are done log out and press Alt+E07:55
xeviousmedivh: your old CRT monitor, right?07:55
medivhxevious, yes, not this one.07:55
xeviousbecause CRTs refresh the whole screen.07:56
kristjan_medivh: it's just that I can't tell the difference between 80 or 60Hz on my lcd07:56
xeviousLCDs refresh necessary parts07:56
xeviousthere's no constant blinking with LCD panels07:56
medivhkristjan, I just figured if 75 was the native, and it's highest, I might as well keep it there, I never had headaches with it :)07:56
xeviouskristjan_: because it's receiving the signal and only updating what needs to be updated07:56
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xeviousi've never heard of a flatpanel that wasn't 60hz or a multiple of 60hz. (some very high end ones are 120hz and i believe i read about someone coming out with a 180hz)07:57
medivhxevious, indeed, that's why I can actually take a picture of my computer screen with my phone without the running lines.07:57
xeviousyup07:57
kristjan_how does the sync of opengl apps work with lcd? I once did an experiment with 100Hz on low resolution, but opengl apps still synced to 60Fps07:57
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medivhkristjan, thanks for your help, I'm going to relog now ;) Thanks, this was much easier than sitting through xorg reconfig.07:58
xeviousopengl apps don't care about your monitor07:58
kristjan_medivh: you don't know if it works yet ;-)07:58
xeviousthey run as fast as your 3d gpu can create the image07:58
kristjan_xevious: where do they sync then?07:58
kristjan_xevious: I'm talking about "sync_to_vblank"07:59
xeviousoh07:59
xeviousin that case they do care about your monitor :)07:59
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xeviouskristjan_: but notice how glxgears can generate over 2000fps? i'm fairly sure my monitor doesn't do 2000hz08:00
kristjan_does kubuntu expect us to use that kmenu> system settings> monitor&display thing for configuring xorg.conf?08:00
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kristjan_xevious: can you use lower resos with higher Hz?08:01
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xeviouskristjan_: yeah. i'm using a 21" CRT right now. at 1400x1050 it's at 85hz, but if i drop to 640x480 it'll do 120hz08:02
medivhYay widescreen.08:02
medivh:)08:02
kristjan_xevious: what drivers? nvidia?08:02
medivhThe refresh rate wont change :( but...*Shrug* so long as it's widescreen, I'm happy.08:02
xeviouskristjan_: yeah08:02
xeviousmedivh: what monitor is it?08:03
kristjan_xevious: run nvidia-settings and check "force sync to vblank"08:03
medivhxevious, what monitor? My LCD?08:03
xeviousmedivh: yeah08:03
medivhxevious, the brand is Envision >.> If that's what you mean.08:03
xeviousmedivh: model?08:04
xeviouskristjan_: are settings changed in nvidia-settings effective immediately or do i have to restart X?08:04
kristjan_medivh: you are confusing - weren't you using 1440x900 already?08:04
kristjan_xevious: immediately08:04
kristjan_xevious: see how many frames you get now with native resolution08:04
medivhxevious, Eh, I'd have to flip it over, which would upset the delicate balance of my post-it notes around my monitor's edge lol08:04
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xeviouskristjan_: ahhah!08:05
xeviouskristjan_: 85 :D08:05
kristjan_xevious: what is your refresh rate?08:05
medivhkristjan, sorry I'm not trying to be :( I'm just very tired :S My explainations are...lax. I was suffering 800x60008:05
xevious85!08:05
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medivhI was running the xorg reconfigure to add my widescreen to the list.08:05
kristjan_xevious: ok now change to lower reso with higher hz and run glxgears again please08:06
medivhThen you pointed out how much easier it was to change :)08:06
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kristjan_medivh: xorg-reconfigure did not detect your monitor model?08:06
kristjan_medivh: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:06
medivhkristjan, no, I don't believe so, otherwise it would have had the widescreen, and not "Generic" in there.08:06
medivhkristjan, I don't have one of those.08:07
kristjan_medivh: I may try to mess with that system setting monitor&display module some time in the future, never used it08:07
kristjan_medivh:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log file? are you sure?08:08
medivhKristjan, well us not-so-terminal-savvy people try to use it >.> lol08:08
xeviouskristjan_: my 640x480 runs at 120hz and i got 120fps08:08
kristjan_medivh: actually I like graphical text editors :-)08:08
medivhkristian, oh wait, wrong place.08:08
kristjan_xevious: nice, so that means my lcd was special08:09
medivhErm, sorry kristjan*08:09
kristjan_medivh: actually kristjan_08:09
medivhkristjan, yes I have a xorg.0.log08:09
kristjan_medivh: what irc client do you use? konversation?08:09
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medivhoop :S sorry, didn't even notice the underscore.08:09
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medivhkristjan_, yes, I just reinstalled Kubuntu so I haven't even done my updates yet :S08:10
kristjan_xevious: or it could have been opengl in fullscreen, but I never got them to sync to vblank higher than 60 no matter how low resolution08:10
kristjan_medivh: type kr and press TAB08:10
kristjan_medivh: can we see your  /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?08:11
medivhOh thanks kristjan_.08:11
medivhkristjan_: If you think it will help, sure.08:11
medivhkristjan_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40685/08:12
kristjan_medivh: yeah I'm curious how you couldn't use 1440x900 but now you can but with lower Hz08:13
medivhkristjan_: This tends to be my luck in general with Linux *lol* Murphy's Law, Anything that can go wrong, Will.08:13
kristjan_medivh: look at that log file "1440x900_75.00" (hsync out of range)08:13
kristjan_medivh: interesting?08:14
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medivhkristjan_: O_o funky.08:14
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medivhkristjan_: Why is it saying that? O_o08:15
medivhkristjan_: Or is that the present enigma?08:15
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kristjan_medivh: but it does use Mode "1440x900@7508:15
kristjan_medivh: so what's the difference?08:16
kristjan_medivh: press Alt-F2 and run krandrtray08:16
xeviousmedivh: every envision 19" widescreen monitor on their website lists 1400x900@60 as the recommended setting, although they'll sync to 7508:17
xeviouswhich means that they natively run at 60hz08:17
kristjan_xevious: look at his log file, dpi 75? does kubuntu use 96 by default if it fails to detect monitor size?08:17
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medivhkristjan_: Sorry, Konversation stopped listening to me :S08:18
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kristjan_medivh: in what way?08:19
medivhkristjan_: It wouldn't minimize O_o and then it disconnected me O_O08:19
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medivhkristjan_: I wasn't kidding when I said: Anything that can go wrong, will. :P08:19
kristjan_medivh: did you run krandrtray?08:19
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kristjan_medivh: alt+f2  krandtray08:20
kristjan_*krandrtray08:20
xeviouskristjan_: not sure about the dpi...08:20
medivhkristjan_: I did not O_o I am now.08:21
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medivhkristjan_: Thank you so much for your help, I actually need to sleep :( Quite late for me. Sorry for the sudden depature, but thanks a ton for the resolution help :)08:23
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xeviousso yeah. his monitor's native refresh is 60hz08:25
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kristjan_xevious: I feel tempted to try that system settings monitor&display module (how cleanly does it create new xorg.conf)08:30
kristjan_xevious: does it mess with other system files?08:31
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xeviouskristjan_: honestly i'm not sure.08:33
xeviousi used it to pick my monitor and then hand tweaked my xorg.conf08:34
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xeviousalright08:35
xeviouscigarette then bed.08:35
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kristjan_this google docs supporting only a handful of browsers is so lame :-/08:36
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GuHHHcan anybody help? when i try to compile a file it says: "configure: error: libdnet not found" but i have libdnet-dev installed08:40
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kristjan_GuHHH: maybe ./configure can't find the path?08:42
kristjan_GuHHH: run ./configure --help08:42
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GuHHHkristjan_: i already tried to specify the dirs, didnt work either08:44
kristjan_GuHHH: maybe unsupported version?08:45
GuHHHkristjan_: how can i be sure?08:47
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kristjan_GuHHH: google search brought up "libdumbnet" - try installing these08:48
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kristjan_GuHHH: http://tinyurl.com/2hwwyt08:49
GuHHHkristjan_: already did that too08:50
kristjan_GuHHH: sorry, no idea08:51
GuHHHkristjan_: thanks :)08:52
GuHHHits strange :/08:52
kristjan_GuHHH: what are you trying to compile?08:53
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ducciohi all..i'm updating from Feisty to Gutsy RC..but i can't08:54
ducciothe message of error is 'can't install kubuntu-desktop'08:54
GuHHHkristjan_: i'm trying to help somebody else, i don't know what he's compiling hehe08:54
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ducciosomeone can help me08:55
duccio?08:55
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kristjan_duccio: try asking the same question in #ubuntu+108:56
ducciothanks kristjan_08:56
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pillowpantsdoes anyone know a program i can burn a .cue image with?08:59
pillowpantsk3b doesnt seem to want to do it08:59
kristjan_pillowpants: yes it's possible, convert cue to iso09:00
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pillowpantskristjan_, I somewhat need to been it as a cue, since its for a ps1 game09:00
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pillowpantsburn*09:00
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Scunizipillowpants, http://freshmeat.net/projects/bchunk/09:04
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soulchildhey all09:14
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soulchildmy kdm theme is not activated, how do i activate it ?09:14
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Hamra!opengl09:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:55
Hamra!open gl09:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about open gl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:55
Hamra!synaptic09:56
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto09:56
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WaltzingAlongquestion?09:59
dappermuisyes09:59
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WaltzingAlong!ask10:00
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:01
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[4N93L] Hey y'all.10:11
WaltzingAlonggreetings10:12
[4N93L] Howdy.10:12
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nilomsalve a tutti10:27
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WaltzingAlongnilom: salve10:49
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[4N93L] I'm having trouble with Java, can anyone help me out ?11:10
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bdgraueif i try to start kde4beta3 in gutsy backports it give me an:  could not start kdestartupconfig, check your installation.  and after that it falls back to the login. i did all steps fond here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php  . what can be wrong there?11:13
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boubbinhow to check if iptables is up and running ?11:13
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WaltzingAlongboubbin: man iptables            iptables --list11:21
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bazhangmorning!11:39
WaltzingAlong!late morning11:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about late morning - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:39
bazhang:}11:39
WaltzingAlong:D11:40
[4N93L] lol11:40
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[4N93L] Kubuntu .. I Love You !! =|11:43
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emilsedgh+111:44
WaltzingAlong!gutsy | bdgraue11:46
ubotubdgraue: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information11:46
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bdgraueWaltzingAlong: but the guys there didn't answer the question, too :/11:47
WaltzingAlongbdgraue: understandable11:48
bdgrauewhy?11:48
WaltzingAlongsupport for prerelease ubuntu with prerelease kde4 ?11:48
bdgraueis there something wrong with my question?11:49
WaltzingAlongbdgraue: otherwise sudo aptitude update   then try again11:49
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Tm_Tbdgraue: no, but its understandable that we cant help11:49
bdgraueWaltzingAlong: it is up to date11:49
WaltzingAlongbdgraue: were you running it from a full session?11:49
bdgraueif i understand your question right, yes, full session11:50
WaltzingAlongso you created the kde4.desktop file, placing in the few export lines?11:50
bdgrauei did all described in the beta-release announcement11:51
bdgraueand the beta2 worked11:51
bdgraue"worked" in the way an early bate can "work"11:52
bdgraueearly beta11:52
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zenhola12:13
Tm_Talo12:14
zenare you german ?12:14
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zenanybody ?12:16
zentok, tok12:16
pag!de | zen12:16
ubotuzen: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:16
WaltzingAlongwas gibt's?12:18
zenhola12:18
zenFranz Kafka12:19
zeneine gut schrifften12:20
zenalso Gnter Grass12:20
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zenwas passiert hier !12:21
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pagzen, WaltzingAlong; only English in here please.12:21
zenwhy ?12:21
WaltzingAlongpag: zen: this channel is english only support. there are other language only support channels like #kubuntu-de12:21
zengerman language is more than a language12:21
WaltzingAlongthough i suppose one could argue that this one should be esperanto only or just a general tunneling to #kubuntu-en12:22
zenis the language12:22
zenjaaa12:22
zeni am kitting12:22
[4N93L] :|12:22
WaltzingAlongzen: have a question concerning kubuntu?12:22
zenreally, no12:23
zenbut have questions a lot  about everything12:23
zenthis IRC is only dedicated to Kubuntu ?12:24
pag!ot | zen12:24
ubotuzen: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:24
WaltzingAlongzen: this particular channel is support only for kubuntu12:24
zensure12:25
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WaltzingAlongzen: but as you can see not so many are asking support questions just now12:27
[4N93L] Zen left. ><12:27
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[4N93L] Oh yeah, i got a question. ^_^12:27
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[4N93L] Amarok is being a pain in the bum-bum .. -_- it won't install the mp3 support12:28
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pag[4N93L] , " sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs "12:28
[4N93L] hold on,lemme try that. =] 12:28
WaltzingAlong[4N93L] : you will also have to restart amork12:29
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[4N93L] Thanx. =] 12:30
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Kachna!compiz01:22
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:22
Kachnamh01:22
Kachnapls doesn't anyone have some howtos on compiz? i'm setting it up again,and got a lil prob with it today :/01:23
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atlfalcons866whats the bare minium processor speed needed to run kde01:25
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: not sure. i have it running on an amd k6-3 400mhz01:26
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atlfalcons866how much ram01:26
WaltzingAlong19201:26
atlfalcons866is it slow01:26
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WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: no. but i typically turn off all of the extra gui effects anyway. kpersonalizer01:29
dumnut_i have hp pavilion laptop with vista and it's really buggy, does distro 7 work with my laptop?01:29
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atlfalcons866ok i might be stuck with a celeron 450MHz =(01:30
WaltzingAlongdumnut_: what is distro 7?01:30
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: you could also run xfce (xubuntu) or fluxbox as a window manager01:30
dumnut_i ordered a couple days ago kubuntu disk i think it was distro 701:30
atlfalcons866i know01:30
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WaltzingAlongdumnut_: kubuntu 7.04 ?01:31
dumnut_i think so, my memory is blurred with all alcohol i drunk in college01:31
WaltzingAlongdumnut_: i would say yes kubuntu 7.04 works on your laptop01:32
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dumnut_yes 7.04, cool, kubuntu rocks01:34
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dumnut_if and when i get funding for my startup business, i'll setup a pre-register to buy stocks and let you guys know when to do it for you your family and friends.01:35
WaltzingAlongor perhaps contributing financially through contributions to kde, gnu, linux, and the rest?01:37
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dumnut_WaltzingAlong: good point, will do.01:38
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lilithslt01:47
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STDsdoes anyone noe the difference between ls and ls-l01:47
savetheWorldthe 2nd one is not a command (as typed)01:49
WaltzingAlongSTDs: ls -l  is the long output listing           (thanks man ls)01:49
savetheWorldhowever 'ls -l" is a command01:49
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lilith<STD  ls -l gives all the details of all programs with all the rights in list mode01:52
lilithhey, does everyone know how to put the ktorrent logs into the dev/nul ?01:54
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WaltzingAlongdisable the logs altogether?01:56
lilithyes!01:57
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flakewill gutsy include kde 4 release?01:58
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lilithall i want is to keep usint Ktorrent but with no logs files ;)01:59
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Dragnslcrflake- final release of KDE 4.0 won't be ready until December, last I heard. I believe KDE4 beta will be in the standard repositories (universe, I think)02:06
flakethanks Dragnslcr02:06
Jucatomight be in the standard repos, or might be in kubuntu.org repos. either way, it won't be there by default02:07
WaltzingAlongflake: no02:07
Tm_Tyup02:07
Jucatoconflicting answers :)02:07
Jucatono... yup...02:07
Jucato:)02:07
Tm_Thaha02:07
WaltzingAlongwhen kubuntu gutsy is released it will not be with kde 402:07
flakeit's all good =] 02:07
WaltzingAlongbut yes there will be ways to install kde4 from the repositories02:07
Tm_TI'm in programming lecture02:08
Jucatothen hush! pay attention!02:08
DragnslcrIsn't KDE4 in its own (i.e. non-standard) repository now?02:08
DragnslcrAnd it's supposed to be in universe for 7.10?02:08
DragnslcrI think that's the last thing I heard02:09
Jucatoit's in universe right now, but that's beta 202:09
Jucatosince everything's frozen now, any new kde4 packages will either have to be in -backports or kubuntu.org02:09
nosrednaekimits in backports..02:10
DragnslcrI thought KDE4 beta was in backports for 7.04?02:10
nosrednaekimJucato: RC....02:10
Jucatonosrednaekim: don't know. I don't have -backports enabled yet02:11
Jucatoin gutsy02:11
Kachna!compiz02:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:11
nosrednaekimJucato: ah...gutsy... I was talking fiesty02:12
emilsedgh_anyone knows when packages will be ready?02:12
Jucatowhen they're ready...02:13
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DragnslcrJucato- are you using KDE4? I'm curious if kwin's compositing will be comparable to Compiz02:13
Daisuke-Idowhy does everyone feel they need to reinvent the wheel?02:14
flakeDaisuke-Ido, not reinvent, add flames to it to make it go faster02:14
JucatoDragnslcr: it's.. um... right now I can't really compare in terms of performance. using a build with fulldebug makes it a lot slower than normal02:14
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Jucatothere's no Cube if that's what you're wondering02:15
emilsedgh_not comparabale atm02:15
DragnslcrMaybe I'll check it out when I get around to trying KDE402:15
Daisuke-Idoflake: funny, but not what i meant02:16
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Daisuke-Idoall of a sudden everyone and their uncle is doing compositing...02:16
flakei don't know what that means02:16
WaltzingAlongthe pretty effects with compiz02:16
Daisuke-Idocompiz, kwin in kde4, xfwm's compositing...02:17
flakei would like to have maybe a clock and a weather thing on my desktop without a black border around it02:17
DragnslcrI think being part of kwin would be a nice improvement. I have to keep switching between Compiz and kwin because certain apps (games and VNC) tend to choke if Compiz is running02:17
JucatoDaisuke-Ido: since your picky about reinventing the wheel... let's start with "why didn't Compiz just start to work on a working, stable window manager and add compositing to that?"02:17
Jucatothen, "why didn't Compiz decide to support KDE well early on?"02:18
Daisuke-IdoJucato: that as well02:18
Daisuke-Idonothing major, not a life-changing thing, i was just curious02:18
Jucatoso, in answer, kwn's  compositing is not "reinventing the wheel"02:18
Jucatobut I don't want to carry this offtopic topic...02:18
Daisuke-Idocall it parallel evolution :)02:19
bazhang:}02:20
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blendtuxguys i was wondering is it possible with ubuntu linux to use gmail as kind of a storage remote backup02:24
WaltzingAlong!info gmailfs02:24
ubotugmailfs: Use your GMail account as a filesystem. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.2-2 (feisty), package size 24 kB, installed size 156 kB02:24
blendtuxoke02:24
blendtuxthanks ubotu02:25
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Jucato!thanks | blendtux02:25
ubotublendtux: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)02:25
blendtuxehm02:25
blendtuxlol02:25
nosrednaekimsweeto!02:25
bazhang:}02:26
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shadowhywindHay al ljust a quick question, What are the chances that it is a driver issue, if my wireless card no longer is seen in kubuntu and in Windows?02:35
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ubuntuHow do i install ATI driver?02:37
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WaltzingAlong!ati | ubuntu02:37
ubotuubuntu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:37
WaltzingAlongshadowhywind: may be hardware02:37
shadowhywindWaltzingAlong that is what i am also thinking, since when in vista, I can't even get vista to acknoledge the fact that there is a wireless card there. The strange part is the bluetooth is working02:38
WaltzingAlongpci card? tried removing it? replacing it to anotherh pci slot?02:38
shadowhywindits a built in wireless/bluetooth02:39
ubuntuwhats the command to view what card you got because my freind who i'm installing this for has forgotten02:39
WaltzingAlonglspci   or  lsusb02:39
shadowhywindi don't have a screwdriver witth me at the moment, But maybe later tonight i will take the back case off, and see if it just got dissconnected or somthing02:39
shadowhywindand nothing to interesting in either one of those commands02:40
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shadowhywindthanks anyways, I will check some other things out. And if anything, call HP. the notebook is still under warrenty02:41
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hw_I just upgraded to feisty and when I try to install qgit I get "git-core: Conflicts: qgit (< 1.5.5) but 1.5.3-1 is to be installed". Any ideas howto solve?02:58
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rootWhats the command to view what graphic card i got_03:02
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pnanoI tried to upgrade kubuntu 6.06 to 7.04, get errors, here: http://pastebin.com/d70f17d5003:04
Jucatoroot: lspci | grep -i vga03:04
pnanoanyone could help me have a look at the errors?03:04
pnanoI use <sudo apt-get install -f>03:04
pnanoIt can't solve03:05
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pnanothe conflict03:05
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rootpnano: just let me install my drivers for a freind and ill help you03:07
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pnanothank you!03:09
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lalasalut les kepon$03:13
lalahihihihi03:13
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pnanowho here have any idea for upgrade error messge???03:17
pnanoI just post it03:17
pnanohttp://pastebin.com/d42e5e58003:17
tony_Does anyone know the files to download to play DVDs and wmv/avis?03:17
pnanoMplayer03:17
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Jucato!codecs | tony_03:18
ubotutony_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:18
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Angelusgutsy is out?03:36
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martin_HALLO?03:42
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Hamragenii: how do you write these messages?03:44
martin_I search a germen support Channel for k/ubuntu. Can you help me?03:44
geniischiste: Thanks :) <hands you a coffee and munches cookie>03:44
schisteYeah!03:44
schisteI really need it03:44
geniiHamra: //me does something03:44
geniiHamra: only 1 /03:44
schisteI would also need an adrealine jag03:45
geniischiste: I understand, i've had those types of days03:45
Hamraok thnx03:45
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schisteYeah... -_-03:45
schisteI'd like to clone myself03:45
genii!de | martin_03:45
ubotumartin_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:45
schisteOr to have slaves03:45
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martin_THX :-)03:46
geniimartin_: bitte03:46
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bkudriawhen i try to specify a gpg key in my kmail identity, i gte an error "An error occurred while fetching the keys from the backend: General error".  I followed the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KMailGPGAgent but it doesn't work.  can someone help me troubleshoot?03:48
dynacrylicwhat version of kde will be on kubuntu 7.10?03:49
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Jucato3.5.803:51
dynacrylicthanks03:52
blendtuxwhat are the difference with kde 3\.5.6 compared to 3.5.803:53
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Jucatobug fixes03:54
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Jucato3.5.x are minor/maintenance releases. very few new features. (but sometimes there are small new ones)03:54
Jucatothe release announcement for 3.5.8 will be out soon with more info03:55
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earl_hey guys. is there a trivial way to shut off the touchpad on my laptop?03:56
bkudria(and with a changelog, but if you are clever, you can hack the url)03:56
earl_bonus points if there's a way to automate it for when i have a mouse plugged in03:56
bkudriaearl_: mine has a button :)03:56
bkudriaearl_: try ksynaptics03:56
bkudriaearl_: i think that handles it, but if not, you can code a script and make it work with hal, theoretically03:57
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earl_i'd rather not have to write a script myself03:57
earl_is ksynaptics available from adept?03:57
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earl_guess it is03:58
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earl_thanks04:00
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MarcC_how do I check my kde version?04:06
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JucatoMarcC_: any KDE app -> Help menu -> About KDE04:06
Jucatoor "kde-config --version"04:06
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MarcC_thanks :)04:07
MarcC_crazy that there's an "about KDE" dialog on every KDE app :D04:07
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ksivajiis there anyone using gnusim 8085 here or is there any separate  channel for this ?04:08
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bjwebbhi04:15
paghi bjwebb :)04:15
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bjwebbanyone heard of kbfx?04:18
MarcC_sure, installed it a while ago04:18
bjwebbi mean i like what its trying to do, but did you find it a bit.. well clunky?04:18
MarcC_I stopped using it after a few minutes :)04:19
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bjwebbhmm i was wondering if there were any other similar things04:20
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hw_Adept crashed and now Adept the package database is used by another process. How can I solve this?04:23
ardchoille!adeptfix04:23
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:23
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hw_Wow, that was quick. Thx!04:23
ardchoilleDoes synaptic ever crash?04:23
ardchoilleyw04:24
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geniiardchoille: Yup04:24
ardchoilleadept takes a while to load so I wrote a small app that takes about 2 seconds to load :)04:25
bjwebbaptitude ftw04:26
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ardchoilleGood point04:26
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BluesKajhowdy all04:27
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paghey BluesKaj :)04:28
BluesKajhi pag :)04:28
juanraprincipiante necesita ayuda sobre kubuntu04:29
BluesKajbeen busy roofing the couple of days ....lotsa fun :P04:29
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pag!es | juanra04:29
ubotujuanra: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:29
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WaltzingAlong!en04:29
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat04:29
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TimSIs it possible to password encrypt a memory stick? I would Idealy like to be able to use it in Win and Kub but Kubuntu only is okay04:36
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fdovingTimS: i have not tried,but maybe something like: http://www.mepis.org/node/11434 will work?04:41
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bjwebbanyone here use domino style?04:44
pagbjwebb, yup.04:44
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ksivaji!gusty04:45
ubotuIt is spelt !guTSy :)04:45
Hamrawhere can i find a list of the packages available for apt-get ?04:46
bjwebbpag: do you have trouble with firefox scroll bars?04:46
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ardchoilleHamra: Um.. in adept?04:47
Daltondoes anyone know how to get Dolphin to use the systems double click settings?  Single click is a pain when trying to perform any file operations04:47
pagbjwebb, I don't use it for GTK apps anymore, but I recall having those problems back then... Couldn't figure any fix though04:47
ardchoillebjwebb: You mean the scrollbar goes below/hides?04:47
bjwebberm kindof04:47
bjwebbthe curvy bits at the end go fuzzy04:47
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Hamraardachoile: stupid me, thnx04:48
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ardchoillebjwebb: iirc, there is a fix for that in kde control centre. open kcontrol, go to Appearance & Themes > GTK Style > bottom section04:48
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bjwebbardchoille: hey thanks!04:49
lavacano201014oats04:49
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dovecothelphello04:49
pag!hi | dovecothelp04:49
ubotudovecothelp: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:49
dovecothelpi have a problem with mailx04:50
dovecothelpi install devocot+sieve04:50
dovecothelpand now i can't send mail04:50
AstralJavaHello everyone! :) A few days/maybe two weeks ago I was wondering about the state of KDE4 components in gutsy. Does anyone know the state of them? I'm asking because kde4pim has a dependency for kde4pim-data (= 3.92.0-0ubuntu1)  but 3.94.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed.04:50
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dovecothelpcan you help me?04:51
ardchoilleAstralJava: kde4 is barely usable04:51
AstralJavaardchoille: Yes, I heard that the last time as well. :) I'm still a beta-tester, so trying to help out at the same time. :)04:51
ardchoilleoh, ok04:52
AstralJavaardchoille: Cause that's a bug, right? Can we get it fixed still?04:52
WaltzingAlong!ot04:52
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:52
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dovecothelpplease help me with dovecot+mailx04:53
bjwebbardchoille: not fixed :S04:53
DaltonDoes anyone know how to change the default mouseclick settings for Dolphin (the default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10)04:53
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ardchoillebjwebb: :(04:53
WaltzingAlong!gutsy | Dalton04:53
ubotuDalton: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information04:53
bjwebbbbiab04:54
WaltzingAlongDalton: how do you mean? it is a standard kde app so it follows the click conventions of kde;04:54
WaltzingAlong!info kpersonalizer | Dalton04:54
ubotudalton: kpersonalizer: installation personalizer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.7 (feisty), package size 491 kB, installed size 808 kB04:54
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DaltonMy desktop and konqueror all work with a double mouse click, unfortunately, within Dolphin, it uses single click and there is no place within dolphin to change the setting04:55
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bjwebb:S04:56
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fdovingDalton: that does sound strange, are you sure dolphin is not running as root or any other user somehow?04:57
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MetaMorfoziS+104:57
ardchoilleDolphin will be one of the first thigns I rip out of Gutsy04:57
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fdovingi think dolphin is nice.  :)04:57
MetaMorfoziSthere are some ununderstandable things in kubuntu:) Why not includes krusader? why not includes firefox? why uses the shitty own setting application instead of kcontrol? etc:)04:58
WaltzingAlongsome of the interface is nice but i guess i have just become use to the more versatile konqueror04:58
DaltonDolphin is running as the user, everything else has been checked04:58
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ardchoilleDalton: Are you sure this isn't a mouse setting? There is a setting in kcontrol to have double-click or single-click04:59
fdovingMetaMorfoziS: system settings will be there in kde4. konqueror is already a webbroser, shipping two on the CD is waste when you can add something usefull instead.04:59
Hamra!dolphin04:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:59
ubuntuhello, how do I check the files on my windows harddrives?04:59
ubuntuI need to check which one to format04:59
MetaMorfoziSfdoving > kde4 drops kcontrol?04:59
Daltonbtw,  kpersonalizer does not show up in the list of installable or upgradable software in 7.10rc04:59
WaltzingAlong!info dolphin04:59
ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB04:59
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BluesKaj!partitions | ubuntu05:00
MetaMorfoziSfdoving > if konq a browser, include krusader as a filemanager:)05:00
ubotuubuntu: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter05:00
WaltzingAlong!info kpersonalizer | Dalton05:00
ubotudalton: kpersonalizer: installation personalizer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.7 (feisty), package size 491 kB, installed size 808 kB05:00
Daltondolphin is the new default file manager in 7.10, no longer optional05:00
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fdovingMetaMorfoziS: looks like they do,there will be a systemsettings instead.05:00
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MetaMorfoziS:(((05:00
fdovingMetaMorfoziS: dolphin is the filemanager :)05:00
fdovinglike it will be for kde4.05:00
MetaMorfoziSi can think dolphin become useful in the future... but systemsettings... thats a crap:(05:01
Daltonbtw, I asked about this on #ubuntu+1 and I have gotten no response05:01
fdovingit's a rather simple operation to switch back to konqueror for those who like it better05:01
WaltzingAlongand even for those who do not05:01
WaltzingAlongas i imagine the steps are the same05:01
fdovingDalton: right-click on a folder -> properties -> wrench/toolbox -> move koqnueror to the top of the list in the open-with list.05:02
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fdovingApplication Preference Order, actually.05:02
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bjwebbwhy do scrollbars muck up :S05:03
Daltonother than stupid problems like not honouring the mouse click settings, dolphin is very nice.  But when you want to select files for deletion or some other file operation, they are opened..... Think about getting rid of large graphic files, based upon the preview, but when you click it to delete the file, gimp opens up.....05:03
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ardchoilleDalton: Did you check your mouse settings? That single click is default in Feisty to, iirc, but you can change it.05:04
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WaltzingAlongDalton: if it is single click, then hold Ctrl when left-mouse clicking the icon. otherwise simply right-mouse click it to select delete05:05
blendtuxdoes anybody overhere has anyluck with mounting gmail on kubuntu feisty05:05
ardchoilleblendtux: ?05:05
WaltzingAlong!info gmailfs05:05
ubotugmailfs: Use your GMail account as a filesystem. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.2-2 (feisty), package size 24 kB, installed size 156 kB05:05
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blendtuxyes i installed it but now05:05
WaltzingAlongoh to configure it05:06
blendtuxyes05:06
WaltzingAlongdid you view the homepage? http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html05:06
ardchoilleUse gmail as a file system? So, when gmail goes down, what happens to your files?05:06
WaltzingAlongno access to them05:07
blendtuxwating till it goes up again05:07
ardchoilleThat's my point05:07
WaltzingAlongand a good point it was, asking a question to make a point05:09
WaltzingAlongso generally it is a bad idea to have /home mounted as gmailfs ?05:09
bjwebbwhy do scrollbars muck up with firefox and domino even after fix :S05:09
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ardchoilleWaltzingAlong: Sounds like your files would be in the gmailfs on someone else's computer. That's unsafe. If you lose the connection, you have no access to your files.05:11
WaltzingAlongardchoille: thanks. i guess i will just store other things there05:12
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tsbI would like to be able to share my desktop with someone safely. Any recommendations? We both have to be able to work on it at the same time.05:14
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arashtsb, how do you mean? should there be 2 mouses, two computers on your table desktop?05:16
tsbarash: I want to invite someone over the internet to control my desktop. Actually I have 2 (twinview), and I'd like to be able to share :0.105:16
[4N93L] arash: he means,Remote Desktop Sharing.05:17
tsbarash: (he is using a windows machine)05:17
fdovingtsb: use vnc or something similar over a ssh tunnel for example?05:17
tsbthere's just so many alternatives, freenx, nx free, x11vnc..05:17
arashtsb: aha, do your friend mind using illegal things, in so case VNC might be  a solution, but wait for some pro to give best software hint05:18
arashI think it's called WinVNC*05:18
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bjwebbarash: why is VNC illegal?05:18
arashbjwebb: I remember reading @ their site that WinVNC costs if you wanna connect from Windows to non-Windows :p, I meant WinVNC*, Im no expert at the subject05:19
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bjwebbahh05:20
fdovingarash: there are for example free alternatives like tightvnc and so on.05:20
arashfdoving: ok, say that to tsb ;), nice to know anyway05:20
tsbIt is important that it works with my *existing* session05:21
arashtsb. are you using krfb?05:22
tsbarash: at the moment, nothing. I'l looking at it right now though05:22
arashtsb: It's preinstalled on my Kubuntu05:22
fdovingtsb: x11vnc and openssh-server on your side, putty and some vnc client on his side. then figure out how to use putty to setup a port-forwarding-tunnel to the port on your machine where x11vnc is listening for connections.05:22
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tsbfdoving: that's what I thought05:23
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tsbx11vnc is fast then? is there any big difference between vnc and nx?05:24
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fdovingnx is faster, but nx does not support shared sessions as far as i'm aware.05:24
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tsbfdoving: ah, thank you.05:24
tsbvnc it is then05:24
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[4N93L] I have a question, where can i find a good app. that has Jordan as a country for the Adsl connection ?05:28
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[4N93L] I've got this program but i'm connected through France. :S05:29
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tsbfdoving: http://hans.fugal.net/blog/articles/2007/07/16/nx-desktop-sharing05:30
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Hamra[4N93L] : if you get any luck tell me, i quit searching for lebanon some while ago :P05:49
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[4N93L] Hamra: Lol.05:53
[4N93L] I found one for Turkey once, but that was a long time ago.05:53
[4N93L] ><05:53
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bwaynehow can I get a SUSE-style menu in Kubuntu?  is there a package in the repos?05:57
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Hamra[4N93L] : currently im using internet on kubuntu by LAN from a winxp computer, but i heard (though never tried) of a program called rp-pppoe for internet connections, give it a try05:57
Tm_T!kickoff | bwayne05:58
ubotubwayne: Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233105:58
Tm_Thmmmm05:58
Tm_Tnot what I wanted05:58
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lalasalut je cherche des francais05:59
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ubunturos!fr | lala06:00
ubotulala: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:00
bwayneTm_T: ok.  so kickoff is what I'm looking for.  doesn't appear to be in the repos.06:00
[4N93L] Hamra: Try the command "sudo pppoeconf" that should somewhat help. :S Atleast that's the reason i can be online.06:00
TimSWhats the command to reset my screen resolution after a game?06:00
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TimS!resolution06:01
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:01
Hamra[4N93L] : tried it, didnt find anything, anyway im not complaining, its simpler this way, this way my useless winxp computer have something useful to do :P06:02
[4N93L] Lmao.06:02
[4N93L] Anyone good with IRC ??06:03
[4N93L] I need to learn commands,any type of command is good enough for me.06:03
[4N93L] -_-;06:03
jpatrickI think we all have some experience...06:03
[4N93L] share?06:03
ubunturos[4N93L] : the Konvesation docs has quite a lot of them06:03
jpatrick!irc06:04
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines06:04
[4N93L] ubunturos: actually it doesnt. =\06:04
ubunturos[4N93L] : you want /all/ of them?06:04
[4N93L] yeah =\06:04
[4N93L] atleast then i can pick the ones important to me.06:05
ubunturosumm, ok06:05
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[4N93L] jpatrick: that didnt help. I asked for commands,not clients and servers.06:06
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jpatrick[4N93L] : yeah, sorry, truth is I hardly use any commands06:07
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martin_Hallo :) darf man hier deutsch schreiben ?06:07
llutz!de06:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:08
[4N93L] "hardly" , meaning you do use afew. =] 06:08
martin_k thx06:08
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Daisuke-Idoupgrade finally complete!06:18
Daisuke-Idotime to reboot06:18
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dragonesshello06:19
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dragonessplease, ccould I get help about mozilla thunderbird?06:19
itch_Hello guys. I have a small problem. I need to change the permisions on a ntfs partition mounted by filesystem at boot time as ntfs-3g. i`ve tried with sudo chmod, but it`s not working, Any sugestion ?06:20
dragonessitch http://help.ubuntu-it.org/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/it/ch10s03.html06:21
dragonessthe link is in Italian but I believe that the instructions (in the boxes) are quite cleare06:21
[4N93L] I have to leave, buhbye y'all.06:21
dragonessthe command umask=0222 in the fstab seems to have solved the problem for me06:21
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itch_dragoness: ok, let my try it.06:22
dragonessno prob itch06:22
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dragonesshope it works :)06:23
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itch_dragoness: umask=0222 makes my partition read-only06:25
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Hamrai just installed firefox 2, when i start it, it asks for a profile and i create one, but when i close firfox and start it again i won't find the profile!06:26
dragonessugh itch_... true06:26
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dragonessI wouldn't know, then, sorry06:27
dragonessthe ro option was enough for me so I didn't search any further06:27
dragonessprobably you could find stg in man umask06:27
itch_dragoness: thanks anyway. but I need it to be rw06:27
dragonessI don't know06:27
llutzitch_: don't know about ntfs, but umask=0000 may help06:28
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jussi01!ntfs06:29
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:29
jussi01!ntfs-3g06:29
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:29
jussi01that link might have something06:29
itch_thank you jussi0106:29
jussi01:)06:29
dragonessplease06:30
dragonesscan anyone help me with the thunderbird?06:30
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dragonessI'd like to import the account I have on my windows partition06:30
geniiAll you should need with ntfs-3g in the fstab is fs type to be ntfs-3g, then options would be something like defaults, then possibly a locale=<some locale specific info here>06:30
geniiIf your ntfs disk is some external then also run ntfs-config and check off the option to use external disks06:32
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jussi01dragoness: google it. Im pretty sure there was something on the wiki about it06:32
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dragonessjussi01: I tried but without success :)06:33
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jussi01dragoness: ok. I know there was omething though :/06:33
dragonessI found a manual on thunderbird which says that, when you add an account, it offers you an option "do you want to import"06:33
dragonessMY thunderbird does nothing of the kind :)))06:33
Daisuke-Idowhee, gutsy is go!06:34
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dragonesswhile I'm chatting here I'm continuing the research06:34
dragonessbut up to now...06:34
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geniidragoness: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/search?q=accountex&status=406:39
dragonessthx genii06:40
geniidragoness: np06:40
dragonessgoing there right away06:40
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hydrogendragoness: its due to the fact that your account is stored in an odd place (it was on windows)06:41
hydrogendragoness: You would need to move the profile and do crazy things to it to get thunderbird to find/import it06:41
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hydrogenand unfortunatly.. I don't know what those things are, you probablhy want to ask somewhere more thunderbird-centric06:42
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geniidragoness: Prudent thing would be have some small shared partition or such, install the extension in both OS. Export from Win the results to that shared area. Import into Linux from same place06:43
dragonessyes06:43
dragonessI can see my windows partition from linux06:44
dragonessI'm downloading the accountex now06:44
dragonesslet me see what I can do with that...06:44
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Official Kubuntu support channel | Gutsy help _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Large pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please. | KDE 4.0 beta 2 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
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lup0GoOcHiE: what graphics card do you have?08:45
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GoOcHiEnvidia agp 8x 64mb08:46
lee986321eh amI the only one running gutsy in Kunbuntu/08:47
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lup0lee986321: I just upgraded my laptop from kubuntu feisty to gutsy RC08:47
lee986321any how has any one else had issues with the ati driver x30008:47
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U238Willynope.. I will be as soon as it finishes installing.08:47
lup0lee986321: nope, I've got an intel chip08:48
U238Willynvidia08:48
lee986321ahh08:48
ScorpKingsubramani:  this is my box - http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9735/mydesktopzk5.jpg and http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8489/mydesktop2uq8.jpg08:49
ScorpKingsubramani: you'll need to install kbfx and superkaramba08:49
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geniiScorpKing: Geez, nasty red green yellow and blue thing down there on the left08:50
lee986321hmm is radeon based on amd?08:50
ScorpKinggenii: lol. i changed it to the kubuntu one. :P08:50
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subramaniScorpKing: thanks08:51
lee986321well Iam running the 64   bit version the drivers for the 32 bit work on  ubuntu, in 32 bit mode.08:52
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lee986321the drivers though say its for both 32 and 6408:52
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ScorpKingsubramani: np. :D08:52
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lee986321so far the 64 even with out the adapter in use has given me stable graphics08:52
lee986321but wha I hit that enguage  the dgpaics adapter tha t Is when all heck breaks loose08:53
lee986321so Im wondering should I use vesa, or wwhat?08:53
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lee986321or do I need to selct the flgrx driver then hit the  ok key?08:54
MinatakuHow can you use a 64bit driver in 32bit mode?08:54
MinatakuThat's not possible.08:54
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lee986321yeah good question because ati sent theis thing with either 64 or 32 when it sets up it auto ids your system as either 32 or 64 then goes from there08:55
U238Willylee986321, for Gutsy help I'd hop on over to #ubuntu+1 and ask there (since that's the Gutsy RC channel) if you don't get it resolved here.08:55
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lee986321e h I am planning to load the fiesty version08:55
lee986321Iam jsut wondering if in general I am setting someting wrong08:56
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TimSScorpKing: Where would I get a list of the cards that work with Kubuntu08:57
ScorpKinguhm. not sure. i saw a list somewhere on google. maybe try that.08:57
TimSOkay, and whhhyyy do you try and look like Vista08:58
lee986321the list said my racd was acceptable08:58
FernVista looks awesome08:59
lee986321well I have the back up of the x.org config08:59
lee986321vista has sissues lol08:59
TimS:o Fern never say that in here :P08:59
TimSAt least look like OSX :P08:59
ScorpKingTimS: a freind of mine told me linux is crap and vista looks a lot better anyway. lol08:59
Fern:O08:59
TimSBah:P08:59
FernBut it does08:59
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ScorpKingnope08:59
TimSCompiz Fusion :D08:59
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ScorpKinglol08:59
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lee986321I have yet to see a windows that alows you to tweak the kernal lol09:00
TimSDoes vista rotate, snow and go 3d at the same time? I think not my friends.09:00
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ismakunwhat is a good alternative for DreamWeaver in Ubuntu??09:01
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FernI doubt there is one09:01
FernAnyway09:01
MinatakuScorpKing: You need to hit said friend upside the back of the head09:01
FernYou should google it. :P09:02
MinatakuNot hurt him, just to make a point09:02
Minatakulol09:02
ScorpKingTimS: hehe. i had it look like OSX before the XP and Vista look.09:02
TimSismakun: I tend to use Quanta, but NVU might do, also Dreamweaver works under wine09:02
TimSYOU HAD IT LIKE XP?09:02
TimSYou nutter :P09:02
ScorpKinghehe09:02
ismakunWine runs Dreamweaver well?09:02
senab88on my laptop, my FN keys work on ubuntu, but since ive moved 2 kubuntu theyve stopped working. was it gnome that made them work?09:03
TimSYeah09:03
ScorpKingMinataku: lol. that won't help at all. he gets a hiding from someone about once a week. :P09:03
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MinatakuHeh09:04
FernWhat is a PCI card? O_O09:04
MinatakuI'm sure he's just pissed that he spent $400 on Vista then found out that something else does it better for $009:04
FernIs it a card you insert into the side of your laptop?09:04
TimSNo09:05
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TimSIts the one you put in a PC09:05
MinatakuFern: No, that's PCMCIA or CardBus09:05
Fernokay09:05
MinatakuPCI is Peripheral Connection Interface09:05
ScorpKingismakun: Dreamweaver can run in linux with wine. Look on the wine website.09:05
MinatakuIt's a bus specification implemented in most PCs09:05
FernWell I have a Netopia PCMCIA card09:05
FernDo you think it's compatible?09:05
MinatakuThough those of recent vintage are moving away from PCI to PCI-E09:06
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MinatakuOpen up the machine and have a look. It should be very obvious.09:06
MinatakuThough to answer, no09:06
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MinatakuPCMCIA/CardBus cards don't go in PCI slots09:06
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FernThe answer to my question?09:07
MinatakuYes09:07
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MinatakuA PCMCIA card is a sealed entity09:07
MinatakuTypically about 0.5cm thick09:07
FernMy wireless card works fine on Windows. I'm using it now. You think it'll be incompatible with Ubuntu?09:07
MinatakuWith a row of holes on one of the narrow ends09:08
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doobeh(about the size of a business card)09:08
FernYes that's what I'm using now09:08
MinatakuRight09:08
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MinatakuPCI cards are large, and the chips are exposed09:08
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MinatakuYou look at it and see the card edge with the pins and a bunch of ICs09:09
FernI'm more asking if the make of card is supported by Ubuntu09:09
MinatakuIt MIGHT, and it might NOT09:09
Fernok09:09
doobeh"The card is Netopia '3D Reach' model SWL-2300N in front it has 802.11b TER/WPC11N1 I don't know what chipset it has but it worked 'right out of the box' with 6.06."09:09
doobehfirst hit on google-- worth having a search yourself, if you know the model number09:10
TimS!knetworkmanager09:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:10
FernHow can I find out the model number09:10
TimSOh09:10
TimSHumm09:10
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TimSI love this one09:10
TimS!gusty09:10
ubotuIt is spelt !guTSy :)09:10
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doobehFern, you can check in the device manager in windows, it might mention it there-- otherwise you'll have to physically look at the card, the details will be written on it09:10
TimS!gutsy09:10
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information09:10
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doobehIs gutsy going to have compiz on by default like ubuntu?09:11
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Fernthis is what's written on the back of the card: Netopia09:11
Fern3D Reach09:11
TimSYeah09:11
Fern802.11b/g09:11
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doobehLooks like it'll work then Fern09:12
TimSFern, are you sure it doesnt work#?09:12
FernPretty sure09:12
FernI put it in after I booted up Ubuntu and it did nothing09:12
Fernthe lights did not glow at all09:12
TimSPut it in before.09:12
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(TimS/#kubuntu) And you dont have filtering on do you09:14
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(TimS/#kubuntu) mac filtering*09:14
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FernHow do I check to see if I have filtering on?09:16
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Fernbrb09:16
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TimSFern: Its a router setting09:18
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CPrgmSwR2is there other packages to install for kde4-beta other than what kdebase-workspace pulls in?09:21
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Skrot-Hi, does anyone know where to bind keys to increase/decrease the brightness of the screen on a laptop?09:23
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emilsedghSkrot-: for me its 'fn'+Up/Down arrows09:24
Skrot-emilsedgh: Used to be for me as well (with feisty), but it doesn't work anymore (gutsy)09:24
Skrot-Although I am able to change the brightness via the power manager09:24
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emilsedghSkrot-: so fill a bug report09:24
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jussi01shortcuts | Skrot-09:26
jussi01!shortcuts | Skrot-09:26
ubotuSkrot-: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts09:26
FernSkrot-: What I do to increase and decrease my brightness is I hold down Fn and press F8 to increase brightness and F9 to decrease it.09:26
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Skrot-thanks09:28
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chris__is anyone using the intel xorg driver here?09:29
emilsedghchris__: me09:30
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emilsedghchris__: i have 810 driver09:30
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chris__im using the intel xorg driver and now when i try to play movies using XV theyre over exposed. changing to X11 playback fixes it. I'm sure XV used to work though, any ideas?09:31
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jussi01chris__: are you running compiz/beryl?09:39
chris__no09:39
FernHmm09:39
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jussi01hmmm, weird09:39
chris__havent had chance to enable it yet09:39
FernSkrot-: Did the brightness thing work for you?09:40
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Skrot-Fern: I can change the brightness via power manager (and dcop), but not with shortcuts. Probably bug :>09:41
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FernAw okay09:41
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chris__how do i get rid of the groupware wizard? what package is it under?09:45
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massi_hi09:45
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Phlogi I can't get cryptsetup-luks to work with a partition on my external hd, i always get an error, you can find all the information here: http://pastebin.ca/737851 thanks for any help!09:46
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sub[t] rnlPhlogi: I think http://de.gentoo-wiki.com/DM-Crypt addresses your error, Phlogi09:49
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PhlogiCONFIG_CRYPTO_MANAGER=y its in my kernel09:51
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AzzcoIs ther any program to control the fans in the computer?09:52
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envoicesbonsoir09:57
envoicesje suis venu hier09:57
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envoicesj'explique mon problme09:57
envoicesje n'arrive pas  installer mon rseau wifi09:57
hydrogen!fr | envoices09:57
ubotuenvoices: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:57
envoicesbonsoir09:57
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Moddershello can some help me10:00
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AzzcoDon't ask to ask, just ask10:00
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Moddersi want to get to the #arklinux chat and cant configure10:00
Moddersoops done it..lol10:01
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Moddersanyone in uk?10:03
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FernAbout 40 times.10:09
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FernUgh10:10
FernWrong tab10:10
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jetsaredimis there a separate package to enable jabber support in pidgin?10:15
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Daisuke_Idoi was under the impression that jabber was built in10:17
jetsaredimo - hmm10:17
jetsaredimo wait10:17
jetsaredimXMPP10:17
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jetsaredimok - nm10:17
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sadeckhi all10:20
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asfjeiadfehello im using amsn 0.97 and when i try to change my image to show theres a contact list, where there are every contact of every msn account who has been used on this pc, how can i avoid amsn to create that list?10:22
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asfjeiadfeim using kubuntu 7.0410:22
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CPrgmSwR2hi10:27
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: here.10:28
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CPrgmSwR2okay10:28
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: did you get update-manager installed?10:28
CPrgmSwR2yeah, but the download speed is really slow10:28
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CPrgmSwR2so I am only at 6%10:28
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: well, that upgrade to gutsy is really going to pull out some teeth then.. roughly 600-800mb download10:29
CPrgmSwR2Its really odd because I can download at 600kb/s10:29
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: where in the world are you?10:29
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: us?10:29
CPrgmSwR2USA, Texas10:29
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: alright, try removing us. from the url in the sources.list file10:30
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CPrgmSwR2okay10:30
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: and sudo apt-get update afterwards10:30
__-osh-__!sound10:30
_StefanS_!mute10:30
__-osh-__Ok, so no bot answering.10:30
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: prefix the stuff you write me with my handle (_S<tab>)10:31
__-osh-___StefanS_: Perhaps you can help? The sound on my box stopped working.10:31
_StefanS___-osh-__: uhm maybe? what chipset?10:31
CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: okay10:31
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: are you updating your sources list?10:32
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CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: its not exactly working10:32
__-osh-___StefanS_: Looking in kmix it seems to be two of them. Via 8237 and an Audigy 2 ZS10:32
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: :%s/us.//g inside vi will do the trick10:32
ndreasorry, i have a question... i can't access the partition of vista getting this error:10:32
ndreahal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 100010:32
_StefanS___-osh-__: I dont think the audigy works in linux10:32
_StefanS_ndrea: try as root10:32
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__-osh-___StefanS_: Ah. Still, the VIA should then. Sounds stopped working just a few days ago...10:33
wrede I upgraded kubuntu to gutsy. When I log in with my user, my external monitor is blank. With test user however, whos config files I deleted, the monitor works. Question, which config files do I delete for my user to get the monitor working?10:33
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ScorpKingi've asked this a few time so ince more won't hurt i guess. :P konqueror and most of the kde apps seems to use different dns than firefox and cli apps like apt. what's with that?10:34
ScorpKingonce*10:34
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_StefanS___-osh-__: it should10:35
wredecan anyone help?10:35
_StefanS_wrede: two secs10:36
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CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: it says update-manager is not a valid package10:36
__-osh-___StefanS_: I tried restarting alsa but got nothing. Also tried the alsa_tool but nothing there either. :-/10:36
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nosrednaekimanyone seen BluesKaj?10:36
__-osh-__wrede: copy xorg.conf to something like xorg.conf.<todays-date> and then remove xorg.conf10:36
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__-osh-__wrede: then do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:37
__-osh-__wrede: Might help.10:37
LjLnosrednaekim: /msg seenserv seen blueskaj10:37
__-osh-__wrede: or listen to someone in here that knows more about k/ubuntu than me. ;-)10:37
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wrede__-osh-__: Ok, but I think it is a local problem, because it works for the other user10:38
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nosrednaekimwell he has seen him...10:38
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__-osh-__wrede: Ahh, Ok, now I read the question properly.10:38
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__-osh-__wrede: My approach might be a bit drastic then.10:38
wrede__-osh-__: yes :-)10:39
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: try sudo apt-cache search update-manager, does it give you anything ?10:39
CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: I had to switch back to us.10:40
CPrgmSwR2now it wants to update a ton of packages10:40
CPrgmSwR2I am just going to do the manual way10:40
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: ok, did you replace all feisty for gutsy ?10:40
__-osh-__wrede: I'm thinking that perhaps the .Xauthority-file might have something to do with it. But it could probably just as well be any x-related file in .kde10:41
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CPrgmSwR2yes10:41
CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: yes10:41
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: good10:41
wrede__-osh-__: ok. cheers, will give it a try10:42
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: how is the download speed?10:42
CPrgmSwR240kb/s10:42
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: oh my10:42
CPrgmSwR2yeah10:42
CPrgmSwR2now its up to 56kb/s10:42
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: just using archive.ubuntu.com instead gives me ok speeds10:43
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: so that was just what I meant ..10:43
CPrgmSwR2when I tried to switch to that alot of packages could not be found10:43
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: ah well, that might be because feisty-backports, commercial should be removed. Dont think theyre in gutsy10:44
CPrgmSwR2Oh10:44
_StefanS_obviously feisty-backports isnt ;)10:44
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CPrgmSwR2what about gutsy-backports though?10:44
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: nah, its not really there yet I think10:45
CPrgmSwR2that may be why10:45
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: probably10:45
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kowalsome one can help me with bash script?10:46
_StefanS_kowal: yeS?10:46
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CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ main restricted universe multiverse <-- here is what I have10:46
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: should be fine10:46
CPrgmSwR2oh my gosh10:46
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: I can post my sources.list so you can compare10:46
CPrgmSwR2double the spped10:46
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: :D10:47
CPrgmSwR286 kb/s10:47
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: actually you should be able to get more than that.. I usually get 900-1300kb/s from archive.ubuntu.com10:47
dannyhello10:47
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__-osh-__ARGH!!! Sound shouldn't be so fscking hard to get working again. :-(10:48
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kowaldo you no how write comand for find file modyfi after xxxx & before eee??10:48
CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: I think it may be my internet connection10:49
CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: I checked it with openoffice and even that is slow10:49
_StefanS_uhm ok10:49
CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: When I was in gentoo I was getting 600kb/s and then some10:49
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: sounds odd10:49
CPrgmSwR2thats better 363kb/s10:50
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CPrgmSwR2now its back down to 50kb/s10:51
CPrgmSwR2its acting real weird10:51
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: maybe you have a duplex issue10:52
CPrgmSwR2what is a duplex issue?10:52
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: well just thinking your lan adapter and switch might not cooperating .. but thats a longshot10:53
CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: either that or something is about to go out10:54
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: what hardware are you on ?10:54
CPrgmSwR2A7n8X deluxe motherboard kingston 512 MB memory X 2 maxter 80GB X 2 Radeon 9500 Graphics Card10:55
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Daisuke-Idoone, and only one problem with gutsy thus far...  it broke deluge10:55
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: uhm that should be fine10:56
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CPrgmSwR2now I am hitting 118 kb/s10:57
CPrgmSwR2my connection speed is all over the place10:57
_StefanS_seems like it10:57
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: anyways its faster than before, so I guess you should just have some patience :)10:57
CPrgmSwR2thats what I am doing10:57
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CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: when I do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade... well that pull in a bunch of other packages to be upgraded?10:58
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: the whole system yes.10:58
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CPrgmSwR2oh my gosh10:59
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CPrgmSwR2I am doing an upgrade first though10:59
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: I can paste my sources.list so you have something to compare with10:59
CPrgmSwR2okay10:59
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: actually I dont know if upgrade will work.. I've always used dist-upgrade11:01
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CPrgmSwR2okay will switch to that11:01
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CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: lol its going to remove kde411:02
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: well doesn't it upgrade it ?11:02
CPrgmSwR2I guess not11:02
Daisuke-Idoupgrade kde4 to what?11:02
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_StefanS_Daisuke-Ido: beta 311:03
Daisuke-Idonot if it's not in gutsy's repos11:03
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: you can always install it later on11:03
Daisuke-Idoexactly11:03
CPrgmSwR2yeah I just thought it was odd11:03
_StefanS_Daisuke-Ido: maybe some dependencies are not fully in place, donno. I have beta 3 that works in gutsy11:04
CPrgmSwR2wow its going to take 4 hours11:04
Daisuke-Ido_StefanS_: that would be my guess11:04
CPrgmSwR2lol 32kb/s wow11:05
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: well your internet connection has some temper ;)11:06
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: I could snailmail you the cd's quicker :D11:06
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CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: probably11:06
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CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: I might as well be paying for dial-up11:07
Angeluswhat is kubuntu RC version?11:07
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: arh well :)11:07
_StefanS_Angelus: pre-release of gutsy 7.1011:07
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Angeluspre-release?11:08
Angelus:s11:08
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Angelusis it complete but?11:08
_StefanS_Angelus: but it might contain a few bugs11:09
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Angelusah ok stefan11:10
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ubuntuManCan anyone tell me how to find my boot drive?11:11
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CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: you don't have one because its part of your root drive11:12
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rohananyone know which package provides the OSD in kubuntu for volume keys ?11:13
ubuntuManHow do you know that?11:13
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rohanno idea :-/11:13
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rohanbecause right now on latest gutsy there is no OSD for volume keys11:13
ubuntuManCPrgmswr2 How do you know its part of my root drive?11:14
CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: I figured that out when I tried to configure a duel boot between kubuntu and gentoo11:14
ubuntuManI have Feisty11:14
ubuntuManSorry I forgot to mention11:14
CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: I am assuming you are refereing to partitions and not hard drivers11:15
ubuntuManYes I lost grub11:15
ubuntuManI got an Error 1711:15
CPrgmSwR2okay11:15
CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: grub is still there11:15
CPrgmSwR2something else is missing11:15
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ubuntuManHow do I go about getting it back?11:16
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CPrgmSwR2go to cd ~/11:16
CPrgmSwR2and check for vmlinuz and initrd.img files11:16
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: nah, its just /11:17
ubuntuManI tired find /boot/grub/stage1 and I got nothing11:17
CPrgmSwR2oops11:17
CPrgmSwR2yeah its /11:17
CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: what does ls / give you?11:17
ubuntuManfind / ?11:17
CPrgmSwR2# ls .11:17
CPrgmSwR2oops11:17
CPrgmSwR2# ls /11:17
_StefanS_ubuntuMan: do a sudo fdisk -l, and paste that to pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org11:17
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CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: and then paste the url here11:19
_StefanS_yep.11:19
ubuntuMancpgramswr2 ls / gave me this http://www.pastebin.org/491511:19
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_StefanS_ubuntuMan: go to /boot and do a find . there, and paste that11:20
ubuntuManstefen I got this http://www.pastebin.org/491611:20
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CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: what does # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst11:21
CPrgmSwR2give you11:21
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: I guess you can take that from here, I need to to some work11:21
CPrgmSwR2k11:21
ubuntuManfind /boot gave me this http://www.pastebin.org/491811:22
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ubuntuMancat /boot/grub/menu.lst no such dir11:22
CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: I guess you are missing grub11:23
CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: sudo apt-get grub11:23
CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: sudo apt-get install grub11:23
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: or just update-grub maybe ;)11:23
ubuntuManCan I do that from Kubuntu instead of ubuntu?11:23
ubuntuManI don't have the feasity disk I installed from11:23
CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: will that work because he is missing the entire grub folder?11:23
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CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: you should beable to11:24
ubuntuManOk I'll give it a try11:24
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: grub-install might be needed, you're right.11:24
ubuntuMansudo apt-get install grub says the newest version is already installed11:25
ubuntuManstefens sudo grub-install?11:25
CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: how do you re-install a package?11:26
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ubuntuMansudo grub-install gave me this http://www.pastebin.org/491911:27
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ubuntuMancprgmswr2 should I do sudo apt-get install grub or sudo install-grub ?11:29
CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: let me just clarify something first11:29
ubuntuManSure11:29
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CPrgmSwR2# ls /boot/grub <-- doesn't give you anything11:29
ttansorry, i can't install kde themes..11:30
ubuntuManNo such files11:30
CPrgmSwR2and your on fiesty correct?11:30
TimSWhy, whenever I start firefox, does it not auto maticly maximize?11:30
TimSIts very annoying11:30
ubuntuManCorrect11:30
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: apt-get install grub --reinstall11:31
CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: do what _StefanS_ said11:31
Daisuke-IdoTimS: bummer11:31
ScorpKingttan: need help with themes?11:31
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ubuntuManYES11:32
DragnslcrDaisuke-Ido- laptop arrived today11:32
ubuntuManIts working11:32
Daisuke-IdoDragnslcr: how goes it so far?11:32
ttanyes Scorpink11:32
DragnslcrHaven't opened it up yet11:32
ttanking, sorry11:32
Daisuke-Idoah11:32
ubuntuManI think that will work, I hope11:32
ScorpKingttan: explain the problem. :)11:32
CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: grub doewn's just work out of the box11:32
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ubuntuManOh, so I'm not done yet?11:33
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DragnslcrI may just wait until the end of the week when I can upgrade to 7.10 right after I install kubuntu-desktop11:33
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CPrgmSwR2what does # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst give you?11:33
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_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: it actually does on *ubuntu11:33
CPrgmSwR2oh it does11:33
CPrgmSwR2oh okay11:33
CPrgmSwR2ubuntuMan: then you are done11:33
ttanscorpking, weel, i've just downloaded some themes in the .deb format, installed but i don't really konw where to look to select them..11:33
ubuntuManGreat thanks guys!11:34
ubuntuManYou saved my life, well my files anyway11:34
AlamueI just gotta say that I love Kubuntu, just got everything running. Once I can get Cedega running I am giving up Windows. One question though, is there a performance boost of RAID 0 in Kubuntu?11:34
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ScorpKingttan: you have the link you downloaded it from?11:34
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DragnslcrAlamue- (hardware) RAID should be more or less independent of OS11:34
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ttanscorp, from kde-look.org11:35
twixterhi there, i have had some difficulty upgrading kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 is this the right channel?11:35
AlamueOk, so I should see a decent Sda access time?11:35
ScorpKingttan: which one?11:35
ScorpKingtwixter: yes11:36
ttanmm.. just wait for a second..11:36
_StefanS_Alamue: you might want to look into noatime mount option aswell11:36
twixterupdate manager tells me: Failed to fetch file:/usr/local/mydebs/./Packages.gz File not found11:36
CPrgmSwR2wow speed boost on download11:36
ttanscorpking: try this..http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/kooldock?content=5091011:37
CPrgmSwR2_StefanS_: 637 kb/s now11:37
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Alamueany really good native linux games? RPG or FPS?11:38
ScorpKingttan: oh i see. i won't start or can't you find it?11:38
ScorpKingit*11:39
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DragnslcrAlamue- I just started playing Battle for Wesnoth. Seems pretty good so far.11:39
ttanScorpKing: i've installed but, looked everywhere, couldn't find..11:39
ScorpKingttan: press <alt>+<f2> and type kooldock11:39
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ttanScorpKing: just a second.. i've got to reinstall..11:40
AlamueDragnslcr- I will have to check it out, thanks.11:40
_StefanS_CPrgmSwR2: nice11:40
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ttanScorpKing: damn, it works! :D11:41
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ScorpKingttan: nice app too. :D11:42
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ttanScorpKing: next step is this.. http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kore+%26+Leopard+BG+for+Kooldock+%2B+Icons?content=6701311:42
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DragnslcrAlamue- an RPG I'd suggest avoiding is KQ. It looks like it would be fun, but survival seems to be rather rare in the first few minutes of the game11:42
twixterScorpKing: update manager tells me "Failed to fetch file:/usr/local/mydebs/./Packages.gz File not found"11:43
Alamueohok,11:43
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melcan anyone do a remote logon and fix my sound on my P105 Satellite S9312 system..11:44
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_StefanS_mel: in a few minutes11:44
Alamuemel- have you tried opening kmix and making sure everything isn't muted?11:44
ScorpKingtwixter: yeah, i had some trouble with that this weekend. install apache2 and move the local repo to /var/www/ubuntu. add the repo as deb htt://127.0.0.1/ubuntu feisty main in sources.list.11:44
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melYes11:44
ScorpKinghttp*11:44
digbertI upgraded to Gutsy last night and I think the developers did a superb job. Thanks for all your hard work!11:44
melWill wait for you11:45
melThanks11:45
melgoing to eat dinner brb11:45
Dragnslcrmel- are you using analog or digital output?11:45
Alamueis it normal for kubuntu to be constantly updating? seems like the only thing I have been doing is updating.11:45
ScorpKingttan: still looking... :)11:45
ttanScorpKing: hihi11:45
melNot sure I an new to linux..11:46
_StefanS_Alamue: if youre running gutsy, its a development version11:46
ardchoilleAlamue: Depends on hwat all you have installed11:46
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melI do not understand the commands yet11:46
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AlamueI have installed 7.04.11:46
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ardchoilleShouldn't have many updates11:46
melI have feisty11:46
Dragnslcrmel- nothing to do with Linux. It's how your speakers are connected to your computer11:46
melIt's a laptop11:46
DragnslcrNormal analog cables, optical cable, coaxial cable11:47
melno external speakers11:47
DragnslcrAh, gotcha11:47
ScorpKingttan: if you folow the instructions it should be fine. ask if you get stuck.11:47
ScorpKingfollow*11:47
ttanScorpKing11:47
ttan:11:47
ScorpKingmmm...?11:47
ttani'm gonna try now.. thanks11:47
ScorpKingok11:47
twixterScorpKing: how do I move my local repository? Is that what /usr/local/mydebs/packages.gz is? Note the slightly different path name11:47
melcard 0: Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog] 11:48
mel  Subdevices: 1/111:48
mel  Subdevice #0: subdevice #011:48
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melthis is my card11:48
ScorpKingtwixter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptMoveHowto but instead of putting it on a cd put it in /var/www/ubuntu11:49
Dragnslcrmel- You can try checking alsamixer from a console, see if anything there is muted11:50
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davo_hi11:50
melok brb ggotta eat dinner.. take a few moments..11:50
ScorpKingtwixter: if you have a lot of deb's lying around just copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives and run apt-move. it will sort it out for you.11:50
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ScorpKingtwixter: ta make it even easier put /var/www/ubuntu in apt-move.conf instead of /debian/mirrors. when you're done run - sudo chown www-data:www-data -R /var/www/ so apache own the files.11:52
ScorpKingto*11:52
twixterScorpKing: thanks, is there another link to tell me how to "put /var/www/ubuntu in apt-move.conf" ? :-)11:54
ScorpKingtwixter: i can do that. :D kdesu kate /etc/apt-move.conf11:55
twixterScorpKing: oh you mean add a line to that file? ok thanks for your help!11:56
ScorpKingtwixter: and change to LOCALDIR=/var/www/ubuntu11:56
ScorpKingtwixter: np. just change it in there.11:56
twixterScorpKing: uh which file will have LOCALDIR in it? sorry I'm an extreme newbie11:57
ScorpKingtwixter: run kdesu kate /etc/apt-move.conf11:57
twixterScorpKing: oh the same file. thanks very much!11:57
ScorpKingtwixter: you're welcome.11:58
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ScorpKingtwixter: on that AptMove HowTo, stop at "mkdir .disk" on that page and you'll be sorted.11:59
ScorpKingtwixter: then add deb http://127.0.0.1/ubuntu main (and others that you have) to /etc/apt/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update.12:00
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melkorSo whats the best version of ubuntu to start from right now.12:01
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melkorI've got fiesty fawn 7.0412:01
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DragnslcrIf you're installing a new system, I'd suggest waiting until the end of the week if you can12:01
Dragnslcr7.10 is due out on Thursday12:02
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melkorWell I might have too.12:02
melkorIt crashed on the way through once and I don't really know how to setup the partition table12:02
ScorpKingtwixter: you might get a security warning when you install apps from your repo. just select yes and carry on. ;)12:03
hydrogenwhat do I use to get data off of a SDHC disk?12:03
ScorpKingcp? lol12:04
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melkorIs it difficult to add a windows partition after installing linux?12:04
hydrogenit can't be mounted though..12:04
twixterScorpKing: ok I am copying everything you tell me. BTW I have no file /etc/apt-move.conf12:04
Dragnslcrmelkor- if you're doing partitions manually, you'll want three partitions. Depending on your disk size, maybe 10-20 GB for /, 1-2 times your RAM for swap, and the rest for /home12:04
hydrogenit exists at /dev/sg212:04
ScorpKingmelkor: you should install windows first.12:04
contrast83Does anyone know what would cause KNetworkManager to not list any devices? KWifiManager is picking them up without issue.12:04
ScorpKingtwixter: sudo aptitude install apt-move12:04
_StefanS_contrast83: because networkmanager is not started/installed? :)12:05
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contrast83_StefanS_: Thanks, but no, it's running.12:05
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ScorpKingtwixter: that will install apt-move and create that file. follow that howto and the things i said. it works great.12:05
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keithContrast, the advice that worked for me was to edit /etc/network/interfaces, and comment out (with a #) all the lines having to do with your wireless devices. Then reboot, and KNetworkManager worked for me.12:06
twixterScorpKing: ok i'll give it a shot thanks again!12:06
_StefanS_contrast83: what device?12:06
melkorHow about kde4 is anybody running that yet, or should I wait till its release?12:06
ScorpKingtwixter: np. i'll be here again tomorrow if you have more problems. ;)12:06
contrast83AIRONET Wireless Communications Cisco Aironet Wireless 802.11b12:07
cboxhi everyone. can someone help me figure out how to read a bootchart file? there's a lot of data and i'm trying to find out why my pc loads slow! thanks!12:07
contrast83keith: Thanks, I'll try that.12:07
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keithyw contrast, and best of luck!12:07
bjwebbcan i minimze full screen games?12:07
contrast83I should point out that it was working fine up until a few days ago (before one of the recent Gutsy updates).12:07
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contrast83And yes, I already asked in #ubuntu+1 and didn't get anything. :-)12:08
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ScorpKingbjwebb: try <alt>+<tab>12:08
melOk I am back12:08
keithAh, now I did this on Feisty, so don't know if it'll work in Gutsy.  But make a backup copy of the interfaces file first, and it shouldn't hurt.12:08
bjwebbScorpKing: nah it doesn't get through12:08
melI can email you the access to my system for remote access..12:08
ScorpKingbjwebb: no idea then12:09
ScorpKingnite guys!12:09
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contrast83keith: Of course. :-)   Thanks12:09
CPrompt^anyone have experience using an image on GRUB?12:09
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CPrompt^I need to make sure I have it pointing to the right section of the hard drive before I reboot  LOL12:09
_StefanS_mel: I'm back12:11
cboxhi hi, can someone help me with a small problem?12:11
melMe too12:11
_StefanS_cbox: fire away12:11
keithI'll try.12:12
contrast83keith: Awesome, that got it. Thanks a lot!! :-)))12:12
contrast83keith: FYI, for network-related stuff like that, "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" should work instead of rebooting.12:12
_StefanS_mel: I sent you my email in a private message12:12
CPrompt^cbox : better to just ask ;)12:12
melsorry can you send it again I closed it on accident12:12
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cboxi just installed Ubuntu here, and im trying to turn this PC into a media centre. i have  everything working ok, but I have 2 main problems. my more immediate one is a super slow boot time12:12
keithGreat, contrast!  I'm delighted it worked.  For me, one of the drivers must have been hung as restarting didn't work. So I gave you the paranoid suggestion :)12:12
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bjwebb:S12:13
bjwebbno suggestions then?12:13
cboxi installed bootchart to record boot time, but i havent a clue how to read it!12:13
bjwebbits really annoying then being stuck fullscreen, windows can minimise stuff like that...12:13
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melOk gotit12:13
melhold12:13
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CPrompt^cbox : never done anything with making ubuntu a media center12:13
CPrompt^I am needing to make sure I have the setting correct on a GRUB config.  Here is my menu.lst http://pastebin.com/m44dbeff612:14
cboxcprompt: well i have MythTV installed and thats working fine. its the loading of the OS from start thats the problem12:14
keithbjwebb, you've tried Alt-Tab?  I haven't done much fullscreen gaming, but it does work with System Shock 2.12:14
_StefanS_cbox: http://www.bootchart.org/docs.html ?12:14
bjwebbkeith: it doesn't work12:14
_StefanS_cbox: try mythbuntu12:14
bjwebbctrl+alt+d doesn't work either12:14
CPrompt^Can someone tell me if that splashimage section is pointing to the correction section of my linux har drive ?12:14
cboxmythbuntu is a media centre?12:15
bjwebbis their a command i can run from virtual terminal?12:15
keithWhat's going wrong with loading the OS, cbox?  Incidentally, I'm running myth too, if you have any issues there will try to help.12:15
melOk sent the email12:15
cboxok, i';ll check out mythbuntu. but its not the software thats the issue. its the loading of ubuntu from a cold start12:16
keithNo command I know of to minimize another app like that, bjwebb.12:16
cboxits like 3-5 minutes before I get to the login screen!12:16
melStefanS I sent you the email with the command to access my system with the remote software in ubuntu12:16
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_StefanS_cbox: thats probably due to the dhcp timeout on a non-connected lan connection (ie. you're using wireless)12:17
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_StefanS_cbox: can be adjusted in dhclient.conf (timeout=5 or similar)12:17
_StefanS_mel: okay12:17
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melkorright on it made it through and I have a windows partition12:17
cboxok. great! quick question, where is dhclient.conf located?12:18
_StefanS_mel: mail hasn't arrived yet12:18
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keithcbox, I agree with StefanS. It's been a delay getting an IP address assigned every time I've seen that problem.12:18
melI am using wireless as well my boot time is forever cuz ubunto cannot allocate memory for a particular pci card . But I am not sure what card it is..12:18
melOk will send again12:18
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cboxok im going to modify dhclient.conf right now. just tell me where it is!12:19
melkorhow do I configure x-org so I can set the resolution12:19
keithcbox: "locate dhclient.conf" in a Konsole session.12:19
_StefanS_cbox: timeout 30;, change to 5 or similar12:19
_StefanS_cbox: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf12:19
_StefanS_cbox: I believe that should be enought12:20
_StefanS_enough12:20
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cboxit was already set to 1012:21
waylandbill!gusty12:21
ubotuIt is spelt !guTSy :)12:21
waylandbill!gutsy12:21
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information12:22
melIk it sent this time12:22
cboxso not too far off. would there be another issue?12:22
melI entered your email address wrong.. Brain Fart12:22
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cboxand if it12:23
_StefanS_mel: look at the private message12:23
cboxand if it's '#', then its not actually excecuted right?12:23
mellike what it's what the remote software sends out12:23
_StefanS_cbox: right.12:24
keithcbox, watch the messages during startup, and you'll see it stop at some point. The last msg shown will give us a hint. Alt-F1 during startup to see the messages.12:24
cboxok kieth.i'll check it out. does a bootchart help too or should i just restart?12:25
keithI'm unfamiliar with bootchart, so don't know.12:25
melwhat do you need to login to my system?12:25
cboxok. im going to restart. ill be back. ALT F1 here i come.12:25
keithgood luck!12:25
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melis there an ipconfig I can type in to find my ip address and info12:26
waylandbillmel: ifconfig12:26
melok12:27
_StefanS_mel: the best way is if you can just use your vncviewer to contact my ip-address12:27
CPrompt^so can anyone help me with this GRUB issue?  my menu.lst -> http://pastebin.com/m44dbeff612:27
CPrompt^want to make sure the splashimage section is correct before I reboot :)12:27
waylandbillmel: that will give you the local workstation's interface address. It will not give a WAN address of a dsl modem or anything like that.12:27
melno sure how to do that12:28
_StefanS_mel: two secs, I will describe what you should do12:28
melOk take your time I really want this t work on my system so patience is needed and paience is what I will give it..12:29
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_StefanS_mel: look at the private message12:30
melk12:31
melOk12:31
melkorThere msust be some what to have xorg automatically configure my monitor?12:33
_StefanS_melkor: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver should do it12:33
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_StefanS_melkor: else sudo X -configure12:33
melkorthank you12:34
_StefanS_melkor: and copy ~/xorg.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf using sudo12:34
melok I typed in vncviewer YUORIP:0 and hit enter12:34
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melStefanS did you read my post12:35
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_StefanS_mel: nothing happend it seems12:36
melhmmm maybe I need to set my router to give me the DMZ on this IP..12:36
melbrb12:36
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_StefanS_mel: I really gotta sleep now12:38
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