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asac | hi | 09:15 |
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Riddell | bluekuja: pong | 12:19 |
Ubulette | tonyyarusso, sorry, I can't edit that page. gnomefreak should be able to do it. | 12:39 |
asac | Riddell: anything i can help out? | 12:56 |
Ubulette | I guess the ping was about exaile | 12:57 |
asac | Ubulette: thanks ... none of my business i guess | 12:57 |
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Riddell | asac: no idea, he pinged me | 01:22 |
asac_ | Riddell: ok :) | 01:24 |
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asac | i hate creating diff.gz for non-embedded tarballs ... takes 10+ minutes | 02:26 |
asac | Ubulette: maybe we should switch back to embedded layout for 1.9 as well :( ^^^ | 02:27 |
Ubulette | 10+ min ? really ? here, it takes just a couple of seconds | 02:28 |
asac | well its not xulrunner, but firefox in feisty that takes so long | 02:28 |
asac | no idea why ... i guess its related to the amount of files diffed | 02:28 |
asac | as feisyt doesn't use a patchsystem | 02:28 |
bluekuja | heya asac | 02:43 |
bluekuja | Riddell: everything fine now, pinged you to check an important fix in the queue | 02:44 |
bluekuja | but it seems an RM approved it already :) | 02:44 |
bluekuja | asac: went home late yesterday? | 02:47 |
bluekuja | asac: I have to leave now, have to study a lot of stuff for tomorrow, I hope you'll get to the advocation today if you arent too busy. cu later :) | 03:07 |
asac | bluekuja: don't hope too much ... i am busted with release and security stuff ... like 135.78% load | 03:11 |
Riddell | bluekuja: grovy | 04:43 |
Riddell | hmm, wonder what one of those is :) | 04:43 |
Ubulette | asac, 2.0.0.8 ? | 04:55 |
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asac | Ubulette: yes? | 04:56 |
Ubulette | it's a question. | 04:57 |
asac | yes its in preparation | 04:57 |
asac | currently fighthing ppa and ~ in path issues for make-jars.pl | 04:57 |
asac | i want to release beta builds ... and track QA through http://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org | 04:58 |
asac | for for that I need tilde builds :( | 04:58 |
asac | .. and all this pain because we use flat-chrome in feisty+edgy | 04:59 |
asac | dapper built without a path :( | 04:59 |
Ubulette | i'm fighting with xul too. new nss has a new lib | 05:01 |
Ubulette | split of nss3 into nss3 + nssutil3 | 05:01 |
asac | will you contribute your fix upstream? | 05:02 |
asac | maybe its just a transitional state and they will fix nss? | 05:02 |
asac | did HEAD already move? | 05:02 |
Ubulette | well, there's a fix in xul already reported | 05:04 |
Ubulette | problem is our nss mess | 05:04 |
asac | you mean the soname? | 05:05 |
Ubulette | we ship our own pkgconfig files | 05:05 |
Ubulette | and we soname | 05:05 |
asac | yeah | 05:05 |
asac | does upstream ship .pc files at all? | 05:05 |
Ubulette | no | 05:05 |
asac | they ship nspr-config? | 05:05 |
asac | et al? | 05:05 |
asac | nss-config | 05:05 |
asac | or just nothing ;) | 05:05 |
asac | ? | 05:05 |
asac | Ubulette: why can't we justa dd the new lib to the .pc file? does it break that way? | 05:07 |
Ubulette | I did that but I always miss something | 05:08 |
Ubulette | soname => *.pc => -config => symlinks for .so => ... | 05:09 |
asac | yeah ... i saw a bunch of commits | 05:10 |
asac | but now you have the symlinks ... so all fine? | 05:10 |
Ubulette | 'im building | 05:10 |
asac | good ;) | 05:11 |
asac | should fail pretty fast i guess ... right? | 05:11 |
asac | i mean nspr/nss is needed pretty early i guess (in necko) | 05:11 |
Ubulette | strange that xul/ff is looking for nss-config but there's no such thing in nss | 05:11 |
asac | hmm | 05:11 |
asac | maybe there is a fallback to .pc? | 05:12 |
Ubulette | not really, the missing .so symlink ftbfsed at the very end :( | 05:12 |
asac | again? | 05:16 |
asac | thought you created that link in nss now | 05:16 |
bluekuja | back | 05:19 |
bluekuja | Riddell: it was a security fix for nagios-plugins and an odd crash fix for exaile ;) | 05:19 |
bluekuja | Riddell: it was sunday, so I tried to ping you directly | 05:20 |
bluekuja | ^^ | 05:20 |
bluekuja | asac: everything fine yesterday? | 05:21 |
asac | bluekuja: sure .. i had to rest to get power for this week :) | 05:23 |
bluekuja | eheheh | 05:23 |
bluekuja | asac: well, you have full work until final release | 05:24 |
bluekuja | asac: then you can relax a little bit | 05:24 |
asac | yeah :) ... but before i can do that i have to catchup on things i ignored for now | 05:27 |
bluekuja | yeah, that's true :) | 05:28 |
gnomefreak | Ubulette: tonyyarusso looking at it now | 05:28 |
gnomefreak | did you want it on the LP home page or the mozilla LP page? | 05:29 |
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bluekuja | asac: which diff.gz are you talking about? | 05:35 |
gnomefreak | Ubulette: tonyyarusso https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam if that is not what you meant let me know | 05:35 |
asac | bluekuja: firefox in feisty/edgy | 05:36 |
bluekuja | asac: ah^^ are you working on a security fix? | 05:36 |
asac | yes | 05:37 |
bluekuja | asac: are you still developing that app with CORBA and J2EE? | 05:38 |
asac | huh? | 05:39 |
asac | which? | 05:39 |
asac | contelligent? | 05:40 |
bluekuja | asac: read an article about you and that app, started in 1999, I guess | 05:41 |
asac | where? | 05:41 |
bluekuja | on linuxtag | 05:41 |
asac | ah ... yeah ... luckily i am out of it ... got boring doing this for ages ;) | 05:41 |
bluekuja | oh, so you stopped its development? | 05:42 |
bluekuja | did not like that language | 05:42 |
bluekuja | ? | 05:42 |
asac | no ... it wasn't my application it was a brokerage application ... later a content management system with CORBA/J2EE | 05:42 |
asac | well it got too boring to do that all the time | 05:42 |
asac | java is good for scalable server architectures | 05:43 |
bluekuja | asac: and ....your blog? what happened there? | 05:43 |
asac | hehe ... provider upgraded PHP ... now its incompatible ... have to upgrade my blog software to latest :) | 05:44 |
asac | one of the many things i have to do once i get some time ;) | 05:44 |
bluekuja | :) | 05:44 |
asac | i am not a great blogger anyway :) | 05:44 |
bluekuja | hehe | 05:45 |
bluekuja | I love blogs | 05:45 |
bluekuja | nice to share your opinions and so on | 05:45 |
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bluekuja | but maybe that's only on my side | 05:45 |
gnomefreak | ok im working on reworking the team ownership and admin list who wants to be an admin for mozillateam? | 05:49 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: on the ML? | 05:50 |
gnomefreak | no LP for now the i will bother mat east for ml when i get time | 05:50 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: I guess asac should be admin | 05:50 |
gnomefreak | if he wants it | 05:51 |
bluekuja | (if he's ok for that of course) | 05:51 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: or you | 05:51 |
bluekuja | ;) | 05:51 |
gnomefreak | bluekuja: i am | 05:51 |
bluekuja | ah ok :) | 05:51 |
gnomefreak | david pulled himself off everything | 05:51 |
gnomefreak | so im trying to reorganize it | 05:52 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: yeah, well done | 05:52 |
gnomefreak | :) | 05:52 |
bluekuja | just wait for asac opinion | 05:52 |
bluekuja | ;) | 05:52 |
gnomefreak | i will thats why i asked | 05:53 |
asac | gnomefreak: yes i think it might be benefitial if would be admin for ML and LP | 05:54 |
gnomefreak | asac: ok ill work on it | 05:54 |
gnomefreak | remember ML is high traffic :) | 05:55 |
asac | thansk | 05:55 |
asac | gnomefreak: you are already admin, right? please stay admin as a backup | 05:55 |
gnomefreak | asac: i will | 05:55 |
gnomefreak | always | 05:55 |
asac | good | 05:55 |
gnomefreak | but i am asking for another to help out :) | 05:55 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: another admin? | 05:56 |
bluekuja | why? | 05:56 |
gnomefreak | bluekuja: incase im not around (hospital or whatever) | 05:56 |
gnomefreak | since the only other admin was david | 05:56 |
asac | thully: open console and run 'top' | 05:56 |
gnomefreak | and hes gone from everything | 05:56 |
asac | scratch that | 05:56 |
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bluekuja | gnomefreak: you mean for accepting new members et all? | 05:57 |
gnomefreak | yes | 05:57 |
gnomefreak | and adding things to LP pages and such | 05:57 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: if you and asac are ok, I can help out on lp if needed | 05:57 |
bluekuja | no problem on it, really | 05:57 |
gnomefreak | thats what i thought. let me hijack the team first | 05:58 |
bluekuja | oki | 05:59 |
gnomefreak | only owner can set admins i have an LP contact that should beable to help with it. | 05:59 |
bluekuja | great | 05:59 |
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gnomefreak | asac: you want admin for both mailing lists? and what email address would you like me to use? | 06:10 |
gnomefreak | ill brb need a smoke | 06:10 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: two lists are -mozillateam and -mozillateam-bugs? | 06:11 |
gnomefreak | yes | 06:11 |
gnomefreak | ok ill be back later i need to get a few things done | 06:17 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: ok, I'll be available later as well | 06:18 |
bluekuja | just ping me if needed | 06:18 |
gnomefreak | k | 06:18 |
bluekuja | take care | 06:18 |
gnomefreak | you too | 06:18 |
bluekuja | :) | 06:18 |
asac | bluekuja: bye | 06:18 |
bluekuja | asac: cya later, good work in the meantime | 06:18 |
asac | thully: can we chat here in channel in future? its cumbersome for me to do PM :) | 06:23 |
asac | thully: this channel doesn't (yet) have much noise ... so its a perfect place for debuggin | 06:23 |
thully | One question for you, as you're a developer - who would I go to with gnome-power-manager regressions? I had a patch which fixed some of the issues, but no one has looked into it... | 06:23 |
asac | thully: which code that the patch affect?= | 06:24 |
asac | thully: do you have a bug id? | 06:24 |
thully | the issue is that brightness is increased to max on idle when running on AC with "idle dim" disabled | 06:24 |
thully | 137598 | 06:25 |
asac | bug 137598 | 06:25 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 137598 in gnome-power-manager "Screen brightness resets to default (maximum) on idle with AC plugged in" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137598 | 06:25 |
asac | thully: there is no patch in that bug | 06:25 |
asac | oh wait there is | 06:25 |
asac | thully: ok i asked someone ... lets see ;) | 06:27 |
thully | OK - I have to go in a few minutes | 06:28 |
thully | n-m just crashed again | 06:28 |
asac | log | 06:28 |
asac | on suspend/resume? | 06:28 |
thully | no | 06:29 |
asac | thully: someone asks if you still see the power-manager bug with latest | 06:29 |
asac | thully: pleaes post the syslog so i see if its the same | 06:29 |
thully | http://paste.ubuntu.com/940/ | 06:30 |
asac | yeah ... the same ... thats ugly | 06:30 |
asac | thully: will you come back later? | 06:31 |
thully | yeah, in like an hour or 2 | 06:31 |
asac | ok | 06:31 |
thully | g-p-m bug still occuring with latest version | 06:33 |
asac | thully: someone mentioned that you didn't follow up on questions the TB sent you? | 06:34 |
thully | What I do is 1) plug in 2) lower brightness to min 3) wait a minute or 2 then my brightness spontaneously changes to max | 06:34 |
thully | asac: what questions? | 06:34 |
thully | tb? | 06:34 |
asac | technical-board | 06:34 |
thully | I thought I answered all their questions... | 06:35 |
thully | I thought they were under the impression this was MacBook specific... | 06:35 |
thully | (which it isn't) | 06:35 |
thully | who sent said message? I could check if it somehow ended up in my spambox... | 06:37 |
asac | ... i am just a proxy and have no details ... anyway, calling people to send complains to technical-board is unlikely to get you anywhere ... thats all i can say | 06:38 |
thully | OK - but who should I contact? I just looked through my contacts with the technical-board, and from what I see I answered all their questions | 06:39 |
asac | well ... in general you cannot do more than opening a bug and providing feedback if asked to. | 06:40 |
Ubulette | asac, xul builds successfully again | 06:40 |
thully | well - I guess it was somewhat different as I had a patch which several people said resolved the problem... | 06:40 |
asac | Ubulette: good | 06:41 |
asac | thully: no idea ... you can ask on #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-desktop to get a review for a patch | 06:42 |
thully | OK | 06:42 |
thully | be back in an hour or so... | 06:42 |
asac | thanks | 06:42 |
Ubulette | oh, i have a new "Places" folder in my bookmarks bar | 06:43 |
Ubulette | :) | 06:43 |
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gnomefreak | we dont package google toolbar and TBH i dont think we can/should since we cant/wont package any other google apps including google earth and iirc there is a reason for this. i would guess its something to do with license they use. | 09:32 |
gnomefreak | bluekuja: no news yet | 09:32 |
gnomefreak | i have a few more things to do before i can be here for a while but i will ping him when i get a chance. | 09:33 |
gnomefreak | asac: btw found a big security hole in firefox for windows. some virus called downloader its high in all sections seems to attach itself to firefox profile, i know we dont deal with windows but if you get a chance or have heard about it please let me know of anything that i should know about it. there were 2 of them same name same profile same risk values. | 09:36 |
gnomefreak | gone again | 09:38 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: ok, looks fine :) | 10:08 |
gnomefreak | ;) | 10:08 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: they should give the possibility to change owners | 10:08 |
bluekuja | when old one get de-activated | 10:08 |
bluekuja | maybe a next feature | 10:08 |
gnomefreak | i agree | 10:08 |
bluekuja | would be nice to have | 10:08 |
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gnomefreak | but i will ping him today or tomorrow | 10:08 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: steve alexander? | 10:09 |
gnomefreak | yeah | 10:09 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: but I guess any lp admin is ok for that | 10:09 |
Ubulette | bluekuja, are the deluge guys part of your team ? or do they have a team of their own ? | 10:09 |
bluekuja | I'll talk with mrevell about having that as a new feature | 10:09 |
gnomefreak | any LP admin might help me that way | 10:09 |
bluekuja | yep | 10:09 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: mmm...currently I have a contact for deluge | 10:10 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: he usually gets on on the irc channel, update me with news | 10:10 |
bluekuja | and get into the dark again | 10:10 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: we had a small problem with deluge | 10:11 |
Ubulette | bluekuja, i see zachtib trying to set up his ppa | 10:11 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: where? | 10:11 |
bluekuja | which channel? | 10:11 |
Ubulette | bluekuja, https://edge.launchpad.net/~zachtib/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all | 10:11 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: mmmm...thanks for reporting this | 10:12 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: I didnt talk with him yet | 10:13 |
Ubulette | he's doing 0.5.5, I already have 0.5.5.95+svn20071015r2002 working | 10:13 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: do you know him? | 10:13 |
Ubulette | no | 10:13 |
bluekuja | have a chance to get him inside the channel? | 10:13 |
Ubulette | isn't he one of the upstream authors ? | 10:13 |
bluekuja | yes | 10:13 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: seems that SteveA is inactive since 2 days | 10:14 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: SteveA: 2d 9h 27m 19s | 10:14 |
gnomefreak | he was just in motu an hour or 3 ago or devel | 10:14 |
gnomefreak | one of the 2 | 10:14 |
bluekuja | mmm...that's lp channel stats then | 10:14 |
bluekuja | gnomefreak: salgado may help too | 10:16 |
bluekuja | or Bjorn | 10:16 |
gnomefreak | nvm scottk was in motu | 10:16 |
bluekuja | ah^^ | 10:16 |
bluekuja | salgado: 0d 1h 4m 42s | 10:16 |
bluekuja | maybe he's around | 10:16 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: I was saying | 10:16 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: deluge ships libtorrent too with the package itself | 10:17 |
bluekuja | which is wrong, as I told you some time ahgo | 10:17 |
bluekuja | talking about this | 10:17 |
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Ubulette | bluekuja, I know. but so far, there's still no package for that lib. | 10:21 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: yeah, exactly | 10:21 |
bluekuja | or at least there is one unofficial | 10:21 |
bluekuja | on btg | 10:21 |
Ubulette | i haven't had time to do that myself | 10:21 |
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bluekuja | going to bed | 10:42 |
bluekuja | night everyone | 10:42 |
mertiki | @++ bluekuja :) | 10:46 |
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cwong1 | Does anyone know if acrobat reader suppose to work in firefox-gusty? | 11:02 |
gnomefreak | cwong1: there are a few apps but the acoread one is gone | 11:03 |
cwong1 | gnomefreak: are you saying acrobat reader will not be supported in gusty? | 11:04 |
gnomefreak | cwong1: the package acroread will not be in gutsy there are other apps that do the same thing | 11:04 |
cwong1 | gnomefreak: can you give me their names? | 11:04 |
gnomefreak | acroread would help you opening pdf in ff. i thought 3.0 was changing that though | 11:05 |
asac | cwong1: evince is what is installed by default | 11:05 |
asac | cwong1: you can ask mithrandir ... i think he planned to put it into the commercial archive. | 11:05 |
gnomefreak | cwong1: off hand no if you give me a few i can use search | 11:05 |
asac | cwong1: but acrobat probably doesn't come with a ffox plugin. but i am not sure. Most apps you can plug-in to firefox using mozplugger. | 11:05 |
gnomefreak | bug 153057 | 11:06 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 153057 in evince "Evince doesn't display PDF-documents done with InDesign" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153057 | 11:06 |
asac | (most apps that don't have a native plugin) | 11:06 |
gnomefreak | acroread was a great app/plugin | 11:06 |
gnomefreak | it worked most of the time for me | 11:07 |
cwong1 | on gusty? | 11:07 |
cwong1 | it didn't work for me. | 11:07 |
asac | cwong1: for acroread ask mithrandir (tollef) | 11:07 |
cwong1 | asac: will do. tx | 11:08 |
asac | otherwise see if you can live with evince ... which works great for most of the the documents out there | 11:08 |
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Ubulette | https://edge.launchpad.net/~evarlast/+archive/+build/410419 | 11:59 |
Ubulette | asac, bluekuja ? | 11:59 |
Ubulette | ^^ | 11:59 |
asac | Ubulette: is that torrent rasterbar? | 12:12 |
asac | Ubulette: https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org | 12:15 |
Ubulette | i dont know. I found that while watching ppa's build logs | 12:21 |
Ubulette | asac, hmm, I can't connect to https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/ with ff3 | 12:29 |
Ubulette | Secure Connection Failed | 12:30 |
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Ubulette | An error occurred during a connection to mozilla.qa.stgraber.org:443 because it uses an invalid security certificate. | 12:30 |
Ubulette | The certificate is not trusted or its issuer certificate is invalid. | 12:30 |
gnomefreak | Ubulette: are you getting the certs | 12:30 |
Ubulette | (sec_error_unknown_issuer) | 12:30 |
Ubulette | (oops) | 12:30 |
gnomefreak | and accepting them | 12:30 |
Ubulette | no | 12:30 |
gnomefreak | well just one | 12:30 |
gnomefreak | than i would say ff 3.0 isnt giving them to you | 12:30 |
gnomefreak | :) | 12:30 |
Ubulette | well, ssl is okay for other sites | 12:31 |
asac | Ubulette: thats probably due to a broken security store/nss | 12:31 |
Ubulette | but some are not working | 12:31 |
asac | the 3.0 in gutsy works .) | 12:31 |
asac | maybe self-signs certs are broken for you? | 12:32 |
asac | Ubulette: i think you need the root cert of http://www.cacert.org/ ... if you are not too paranoid about that :) | 12:32 |
asac | http://www.cacert.org/certs/root.crt :) | 12:33 |
Ubulette | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ssl.png | 12:33 |
Ubulette | ff2 asks me to accept | 12:34 |
Ubulette | is ff2 with system nss ? | 12:34 |
Ubulette | yep, same nss, so it's ff3 | 12:35 |
gnomefreak | its not same nss is it? | 12:36 |
Ubulette | lsof shows the same libs are loaded | 12:36 |
gnomefreak | 3.11.5-3 this is same version as yours? | 12:37 |
Ubulette | no, i'm using the cvs ones | 12:37 |
asac | Ubulette: maybe its a missing link ? | 12:37 |
asac | Ubulette: try with the nss from paa | 12:38 |
asac | against latest firefox | 12:38 |
asac | but i guess you already tested that | 12:38 |
Ubulette | ff2 is loading /usr/lib/firefox/components/libpipnss.so | 12:38 |
Ubulette | what's that ? | 12:39 |
Ubulette | hm, no such thing in ff3/xul1.9 | 12:39 |
asac | hmm ... never new the difference ... but is public key infrastructre related i guess | 12:39 |
asac | Ubulette: yes was probably merged into something | 12:40 |
Ubulette | well, all the loaded nss libs are the same | 12:40 |
asac | libpipboot.so libpipnss.so libpippki.so | 12:40 |
asac | maybe those are now merged | 12:40 |
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