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asachi09:15
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Riddellbluekuja: pong12:19
Ubulettetonyyarusso, sorry, I can't edit that page. gnomefreak should be able to do it.12:39
asacRiddell: anything i can help out?12:56
UbuletteI guess the ping was about exaile12:57
asacUbulette: thanks ... none of my business i guess12:57
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Riddellasac: no idea, he pinged me01:22
asac_Riddell: ok :)01:24
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asaci hate creating diff.gz for non-embedded tarballs ... takes 10+ minutes02:26
asacUbulette: maybe we should switch back to embedded layout for 1.9 as well :( ^^^02:27
Ubulette10+ min ? really ? here, it takes just a couple of seconds02:28
asacwell its not xulrunner, but firefox in feisty that takes so long02:28
asacno idea why ... i guess its related to the amount of files diffed02:28
asacas feisyt doesn't use a patchsystem02:28
bluekujaheya asac02:43
bluekujaRiddell: everything fine now, pinged you to check an important fix in the queue02:44
bluekujabut it seems an RM approved it already :)02:44
bluekujaasac: went home late yesterday?02:47
bluekujaasac: I have to leave now, have to study a lot of stuff for tomorrow, I hope you'll get to the advocation today if you arent too busy. cu later :)03:07
asacbluekuja: don't hope too much ... i am busted with release and security stuff ... like 135.78% load03:11
Riddellbluekuja: grovy04:43
Riddellhmm, wonder what one of those is :)04:43
Ubuletteasac, 2.0.0.8 ?04:55
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asacUbulette: yes?04:56
Ubuletteit's a question.04:57
asacyes its in preparation04:57
asaccurrently fighthing ppa and ~ in path issues for make-jars.pl04:57
asaci want to release beta builds ... and track QA through http://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org04:58
asacfor for that I need tilde builds :(04:58
asac .. and all this pain because we use flat-chrome in feisty+edgy04:59
asacdapper built without a path :(04:59
Ubulettei'm fighting with xul too. new nss has a new lib05:01
Ubulettesplit of nss3 into nss3 + nssutil305:01
asacwill you contribute your fix upstream?05:02
asacmaybe its just a transitional state and they will fix nss?05:02
asacdid HEAD already move?05:02
Ubulettewell, there's a fix in xul already reported05:04
Ubuletteproblem is our nss mess05:04
asacyou mean the soname?05:05
Ubulettewe ship our own pkgconfig files05:05
Ubuletteand we soname05:05
asacyeah05:05
asacdoes upstream ship .pc files at all?05:05
Ubuletteno05:05
asacthey ship nspr-config?05:05
asacet al?05:05
asacnss-config05:05
asacor just nothing ;)05:05
asac?05:05
asacUbulette: why can't we justa dd the new lib to the .pc file? does it break that way?05:07
UbuletteI did that but I always miss something05:08
Ubulettesoname => *.pc => -config => symlinks for .so => ...05:09
asacyeah ... i saw a bunch of commits05:10
asacbut now you have the symlinks ... so all fine?05:10
Ubulette'im building05:10
asacgood ;)05:11
asacshould fail pretty fast i guess ... right?05:11
asaci mean nspr/nss is needed pretty early i guess (in necko)05:11
Ubulettestrange that xul/ff is looking for nss-config but there's no such thing in nss05:11
asachmm05:11
asacmaybe there is a fallback to .pc?05:12
Ubulettenot really, the missing .so symlink ftbfsed at the very end :(05:12
asacagain?05:16
asacthought you created that link in nss now05:16
bluekujaback05:19
bluekujaRiddell: it was a security fix for nagios-plugins and an odd crash fix for exaile ;)05:19
bluekujaRiddell: it was sunday, so I tried to ping you directly05:20
bluekuja^^05:20
bluekujaasac: everything fine yesterday?05:21
asacbluekuja: sure .. i had to rest to get power for this week :)05:23
bluekujaeheheh05:23
bluekujaasac: well, you have full work until final release05:24
bluekujaasac: then you can relax a little bit05:24
asacyeah :) ... but before i can do that i have to catchup on things i ignored for now05:27
bluekujayeah, that's true :)05:28
gnomefreakUbulette: tonyyarusso looking at it now05:28
gnomefreakdid you want it on the LP home page or the mozilla LP page?05:29
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bluekujaasac: which diff.gz are you talking about?05:35
gnomefreakUbulette: tonyyarusso https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam  if that is not what you meant let me know05:35
asacbluekuja: firefox in feisty/edgy05:36
bluekujaasac: ah^^ are you working on a security fix?05:36
asacyes05:37
bluekujaasac: are you still developing that app with CORBA and J2EE?05:38
asachuh?05:39
asacwhich?05:39
asaccontelligent?05:40
bluekujaasac: read an article about you and that app, started in 1999, I guess05:41
asacwhere?05:41
bluekujaon linuxtag05:41
asacah ... yeah ... luckily i am out of it ... got boring doing this for ages ;)05:41
bluekujaoh, so you stopped its development?05:42
bluekujadid not like that language05:42
bluekuja?05:42
asacno ... it wasn't my application it was a brokerage application ... later a content management system with CORBA/J2EE05:42
asacwell it got too boring to do that all the time05:42
asacjava is good for scalable server architectures05:43
bluekujaasac: and ....your blog? what happened there?05:43
asachehe ... provider upgraded PHP ... now its incompatible ... have to upgrade my blog software to latest :)05:44
asacone of the many things i have to do once i get some time ;)05:44
bluekuja:)05:44
asaci am not a great blogger anyway :)05:44
bluekujahehe05:45
bluekujaI love blogs05:45
bluekujanice to share your opinions and so on05:45
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bluekujabut maybe that's only on my side05:45
gnomefreakok im working on reworking the team ownership and admin list who wants to be an admin for mozillateam?05:49
bluekujagnomefreak: on the ML?05:50
gnomefreakno LP for now the i will bother mat east for ml when i get time05:50
bluekujagnomefreak: I guess asac should be admin05:50
gnomefreakif he wants it05:51
bluekuja(if he's ok for that of course)05:51
bluekujagnomefreak: or you05:51
bluekuja;)05:51
gnomefreakbluekuja: i am05:51
bluekujaah ok :)05:51
gnomefreakdavid pulled himself off everything05:51
gnomefreakso im trying to reorganize it05:52
bluekujagnomefreak: yeah, well done05:52
gnomefreak:)05:52
bluekujajust wait for asac opinion05:52
bluekuja;)05:52
gnomefreaki will thats why i asked05:53
asacgnomefreak: yes i think it might be benefitial if would be admin for ML and LP05:54
gnomefreakasac: ok ill work on it05:54
gnomefreakremember ML is high traffic :)05:55
asacthansk05:55
asacgnomefreak: you are already admin, right? please stay admin as a backup05:55
gnomefreakasac: i will05:55
gnomefreakalways05:55
asacgood05:55
gnomefreakbut i am asking for another to help out :)05:55
bluekujagnomefreak: another admin?05:56
bluekujawhy?05:56
gnomefreakbluekuja: incase im not around (hospital or whatever)05:56
gnomefreaksince the only other admin was david05:56
asacthully: open console and run 'top'05:56
gnomefreakand hes gone from everything05:56
asacscratch that05:56
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bluekujagnomefreak: you mean for accepting new members et all?05:57
gnomefreakyes05:57
gnomefreakand adding things to LP pages and such05:57
bluekujagnomefreak: if you and asac are ok, I can help out on lp if needed05:57
bluekujano problem on it, really05:57
gnomefreakthats what i thought. let me hijack the team first05:58
bluekujaoki05:59
gnomefreakonly owner can set admins i have an LP contact that should beable to help with it.05:59
bluekujagreat05:59
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gnomefreakasac: you want admin for both mailing lists? and what email address would you like me to use?06:10
gnomefreakill brb need a smoke06:10
bluekujagnomefreak: two lists are -mozillateam and -mozillateam-bugs?06:11
gnomefreakyes06:11
gnomefreakok ill be back later i need to get a few things done06:17
bluekujagnomefreak: ok, I'll be available later as well06:18
bluekujajust ping me if needed06:18
gnomefreakk06:18
bluekujatake care06:18
gnomefreakyou too06:18
bluekuja:)06:18
asacbluekuja: bye06:18
bluekujaasac: cya later, good work in the meantime06:18
asacthully: can we chat here in channel in future? its cumbersome for me to do PM :)06:23
asacthully: this channel doesn't (yet) have much noise ... so its a perfect place for debuggin06:23
thullyOne question for you, as you're a developer - who would I go to with gnome-power-manager regressions?  I had a patch which fixed some of the issues, but no one has looked into it...06:23
asacthully: which code that the patch affect?=06:24
asacthully: do you have a bug id?06:24
thullythe issue is that brightness is increased to max on idle when running on AC with "idle dim" disabled06:24
thully13759806:25
asacbug 13759806:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137598 in gnome-power-manager "Screen brightness resets to default (maximum) on idle with AC plugged in" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13759806:25
asacthully: there is no patch in that bug06:25
asacoh wait there is06:25
asacthully: ok i asked someone ... lets see ;)06:27
thullyOK - I have to go in a few minutes06:28
thullyn-m just crashed again06:28
asaclog06:28
asacon suspend/resume?06:28
thullyno06:29
asacthully: someone asks if you still see the power-manager bug with latest06:29
asacthully: pleaes post the syslog so i see if its the same06:29
thullyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/940/06:30
asacyeah ... the same ... thats ugly06:30
asacthully: will you come back later?06:31
thullyyeah, in like an hour or 206:31
asacok06:31
thullyg-p-m bug still occuring with latest version06:33
asacthully: someone mentioned that you didn't follow up on questions the TB sent you?06:34
thullyWhat I do is 1) plug in 2) lower brightness to min 3) wait a minute or 2  then my brightness spontaneously changes to max06:34
thullyasac: what questions?06:34
thullytb?06:34
asactechnical-board06:34
thullyI thought I answered all their questions...06:35
thullyI thought they were under the impression this was MacBook specific...06:35
thully(which it isn't)06:35
thullywho sent said message?  I could check if it somehow ended up in my spambox...06:37
asac... i am just a proxy and have no details ... anyway, calling people to send complains to technical-board is unlikely to get you anywhere ... thats all i can say06:38
thullyOK - but who should I contact?  I just looked through my contacts with the technical-board, and from what I see I answered all their questions06:39
asacwell ... in general you cannot do more than opening a bug and providing feedback if asked to.06:40
Ubuletteasac, xul builds successfully again06:40
thullywell - I guess it was somewhat different as I had a patch which several people said resolved the problem...06:40
asacUbulette: good06:41
asacthully: no idea ... you can ask on #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-desktop to get a review for a patch06:42
thullyOK06:42
thullybe back in an hour or so...06:42
asacthanks06:42
Ubuletteoh, i have a new "Places" folder in my bookmarks bar06:43
Ubulette:)06:43
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gnomefreakwe dont package google toolbar and TBH i dont think we can/should since we cant/wont package any other google apps including google earth and iirc there is a reason for this. i would guess its something to do with license they use.09:32
gnomefreakbluekuja: no news yet09:32
gnomefreaki have a few more things to do before i can be here for a while but i will ping him when i get a chance.09:33
gnomefreakasac: btw found a big security hole in firefox for windows. some virus called downloader its high in all sections seems to attach itself to firefox profile, i know we dont deal with windows but if you get a chance or have heard about it please let me know of anything that i should know about it. there were 2 of them same name same profile same risk values.09:36
gnomefreakgone again09:38
bluekujagnomefreak: ok, looks fine :)10:08
gnomefreak;)10:08
bluekujagnomefreak: they should give the possibility to change owners10:08
bluekujawhen old one get de-activated10:08
bluekujamaybe a next feature10:08
gnomefreaki agree10:08
bluekujawould be nice to have10:08
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gnomefreakbut i will ping him today or tomorrow10:08
bluekujagnomefreak: steve alexander?10:09
gnomefreakyeah10:09
bluekujagnomefreak: but I guess any lp admin is ok for that10:09
Ubulettebluekuja, are the deluge guys part of your team ? or do they have a team of their own ?10:09
bluekujaI'll talk with mrevell about having that as a new feature10:09
gnomefreakany LP admin might help me that way10:09
bluekujayep10:09
bluekujaUbulette: mmm...currently I have a contact for deluge10:10
bluekujaUbulette: he usually gets on on the irc channel, update me with news10:10
bluekujaand get into the dark again10:10
bluekujaUbulette: we had a small problem with deluge10:11
Ubulettebluekuja, i see zachtib trying to set up his ppa10:11
bluekujaUbulette: where?10:11
bluekujawhich channel?10:11
Ubulettebluekuja, https://edge.launchpad.net/~zachtib/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all10:11
bluekujaUbulette: mmmm...thanks for reporting this10:12
bluekujaUbulette: I didnt talk with him yet10:13
Ubulettehe's doing 0.5.5, I already have 0.5.5.95+svn20071015r2002 working10:13
bluekujaUbulette: do you know him?10:13
Ubuletteno10:13
bluekujahave a chance to get him inside the channel?10:13
Ubuletteisn't he one of the upstream authors ?10:13
bluekujayes10:13
bluekujagnomefreak: seems that SteveA is inactive since 2 days10:14
bluekujagnomefreak: SteveA: 2d 9h 27m 19s10:14
gnomefreakhe was just in motu an hour or 3 ago or devel10:14
gnomefreakone of the 210:14
bluekujammm...that's lp channel stats then10:14
bluekujagnomefreak: salgado may help too10:16
bluekujaor Bjorn10:16
gnomefreaknvm scottk was in motu10:16
bluekujaah^^10:16
bluekujasalgado: 0d 1h 4m 42s10:16
bluekujamaybe he's around10:16
bluekujaUbulette: I was saying10:16
bluekujaUbulette: deluge ships libtorrent too with the package itself10:17
bluekujawhich is wrong, as I told you some time ahgo10:17
bluekujatalking about this10:17
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Ubulettebluekuja, I know. but so far, there's still no package for that lib.10:21
bluekujaUbulette: yeah, exactly10:21
bluekujaor at least there is one unofficial10:21
bluekujaon btg10:21
Ubulettei haven't had time to do that myself10:21
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bluekujagoing to bed10:42
bluekujanight everyone10:42
mertiki@++ bluekuja :)10:46
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cwong1Does anyone know if acrobat reader suppose to work in firefox-gusty?11:02
gnomefreakcwong1: there are a few apps but the acoread one is gone11:03
cwong1gnomefreak: are you saying acrobat reader will not be supported in gusty?11:04
gnomefreakcwong1: the package acroread will not be in gutsy there are other apps that do the same thing11:04
cwong1gnomefreak: can you give me their names?11:04
gnomefreakacroread would help you opening pdf in ff. i thought 3.0 was changing that though11:05
asaccwong1: evince is what is installed by default11:05
asaccwong1: you can ask mithrandir ... i think he planned to put it into the commercial archive.11:05
gnomefreakcwong1: off hand no if you give me a few i can use search11:05
asaccwong1: but acrobat probably doesn't come with a ffox plugin. but i am not sure. Most apps you can plug-in to firefox using mozplugger.11:05
gnomefreakbug 15305711:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 153057 in evince "Evince doesn't display PDF-documents done with InDesign" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15305711:06
asac(most apps that don't have a native plugin)11:06
gnomefreakacroread was a great app/plugin11:06
gnomefreakit worked most of the time for me11:07
cwong1on gusty?11:07
cwong1it didn't work for me.11:07
asaccwong1: for acroread ask mithrandir (tollef)11:07
cwong1asac: will do.  tx11:08
asacotherwise see if you can live with evince ... which works great for most of the the documents out there11:08
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Ubulettehttps://edge.launchpad.net/~evarlast/+archive/+build/41041911:59
Ubuletteasac, bluekuja ?11:59
Ubulette^^11:59
asacUbulette: is that torrent rasterbar?12:12
asacUbulette: https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org12:15
Ubulettei dont know. I found that while watching ppa's build logs12:21
Ubuletteasac, hmm, I can't connect to https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/ with ff312:29
UbuletteSecure Connection Failed12:30
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UbuletteAn error occurred during a connection to mozilla.qa.stgraber.org:443 because it uses an invalid security certificate.12:30
UbuletteThe certificate is not trusted or its issuer certificate is invalid.12:30
gnomefreakUbulette: are you getting the certs12:30
Ubulette (sec_error_unknown_issuer)12:30
Ubulette(oops)12:30
gnomefreakand accepting them12:30
Ubuletteno12:30
gnomefreakwell just one12:30
gnomefreakthan i would say ff 3.0 isnt giving them to you12:30
gnomefreak:)12:30
Ubulettewell, ssl is okay for other sites12:31
asacUbulette: thats probably due to a broken security store/nss12:31
Ubulettebut some are not working12:31
asacthe 3.0 in gutsy works .)12:31
asacmaybe self-signs certs are broken for you?12:32
asacUbulette: i think you need the root cert of http://www.cacert.org/ ... if you are not too paranoid about that :)12:32
asachttp://www.cacert.org/certs/root.crt :)12:33
Ubulettehttp://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ssl.png12:33
Ubuletteff2 asks me to accept12:34
Ubuletteis ff2 with system nss ?12:34
Ubuletteyep, same nss, so it's ff312:35
gnomefreakits not same nss is it?12:36
Ubulettelsof shows the same libs are loaded12:36
gnomefreak3.11.5-3 this is same version as yours?12:37
Ubuletteno, i'm using the cvs ones12:37
asacUbulette: maybe its a missing link ?12:37
asacUbulette: try with the nss from paa12:38
asacagainst latest firefox12:38
asacbut i guess you already tested that12:38
Ubuletteff2 is loading /usr/lib/firefox/components/libpipnss.so12:38
Ubulettewhat's that ?12:39
Ubulettehm, no such thing in ff3/xul1.912:39
asachmm ... never new the difference ... but is public key infrastructre related i guess12:39
asacUbulette: yes was probably merged into something12:40
Ubulettewell, all the loaded nss libs are the same12:40
asaclibpipboot.so  libpipnss.so   libpippki.so12:40
asacmaybe those are now merged12:40

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