=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mozillateam.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Topic for #ubuntu-mozillateam: Home of Ubuntu Mozilla Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Bug Triagers please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/ + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures | Firefox trunk package source : https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.dev | Mailing List: ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com === Topic (#ubuntu-mozillateam): set by Ubulette at Tue Oct 2 20:39:32 2007 === cwong1 [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-c6d031e2089724c5] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:15] hi === thully [n=thully@southquad-186-86.reshall.umich.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac__ [n=asac@d107081.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:19] bluekuja: pong [12:39] tonyyarusso, sorry, I can't edit that page. gnomefreak should be able to do it. [12:56] Riddell: anything i can help out? [12:57] I guess the ping was about exaile [12:57] Ubulette: thanks ... none of my business i guess === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [01:22] asac: no idea, he pinged me [01:24] Riddell: ok :) === rexbron [n=rexbron@62.6.158.161] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:26] i hate creating diff.gz for non-embedded tarballs ... takes 10+ minutes [02:27] Ubulette: maybe we should switch back to embedded layout for 1.9 as well :( ^^^ [02:28] 10+ min ? really ? here, it takes just a couple of seconds [02:28] well its not xulrunner, but firefox in feisty that takes so long [02:28] no idea why ... i guess its related to the amount of files diffed [02:28] as feisyt doesn't use a patchsystem [02:43] heya asac [02:44] Riddell: everything fine now, pinged you to check an important fix in the queue [02:44] but it seems an RM approved it already :) [02:47] asac: went home late yesterday? [03:07] asac: I have to leave now, have to study a lot of stuff for tomorrow, I hope you'll get to the advocation today if you arent too busy. cu later :) [03:11] bluekuja: don't hope too much ... i am busted with release and security stuff ... like 135.78% load [04:43] bluekuja: grovy [04:43] hmm, wonder what one of those is :) [04:55] asac, 2.0.0.8 ? === Celtiore [n=Patrick@AMarseille-256-1-58-59.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:56] Ubulette: yes? [04:57] it's a question. [04:57] yes its in preparation [04:57] currently fighthing ppa and ~ in path issues for make-jars.pl [04:58] i want to release beta builds ... and track QA through http://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org [04:58] for for that I need tilde builds :( [04:59] .. and all this pain because we use flat-chrome in feisty+edgy [04:59] dapper built without a path :( [05:01] i'm fighting with xul too. new nss has a new lib [05:01] split of nss3 into nss3 + nssutil3 [05:02] will you contribute your fix upstream? [05:02] maybe its just a transitional state and they will fix nss? [05:02] did HEAD already move? [05:04] well, there's a fix in xul already reported [05:04] problem is our nss mess [05:05] you mean the soname? [05:05] we ship our own pkgconfig files [05:05] and we soname [05:05] yeah [05:05] does upstream ship .pc files at all? [05:05] no [05:05] they ship nspr-config? [05:05] et al? [05:05] nss-config [05:05] or just nothing ;) [05:05] ? [05:07] Ubulette: why can't we justa dd the new lib to the .pc file? does it break that way? [05:08] I did that but I always miss something [05:09] soname => *.pc => -config => symlinks for .so => ... [05:10] yeah ... i saw a bunch of commits [05:10] but now you have the symlinks ... so all fine? [05:10] 'im building [05:11] good ;) [05:11] should fail pretty fast i guess ... right? [05:11] i mean nspr/nss is needed pretty early i guess (in necko) [05:11] strange that xul/ff is looking for nss-config but there's no such thing in nss [05:11] hmm [05:12] maybe there is a fallback to .pc? [05:12] not really, the missing .so symlink ftbfsed at the very end :( [05:16] again? [05:16] thought you created that link in nss now [05:19] back [05:19] Riddell: it was a security fix for nagios-plugins and an odd crash fix for exaile ;) [05:20] Riddell: it was sunday, so I tried to ping you directly [05:20] ^^ [05:21] asac: everything fine yesterday? [05:23] bluekuja: sure .. i had to rest to get power for this week :) [05:23] eheheh [05:24] asac: well, you have full work until final release [05:24] asac: then you can relax a little bit [05:27] yeah :) ... but before i can do that i have to catchup on things i ignored for now [05:28] yeah, that's true :) [05:28] Ubulette: tonyyarusso looking at it now [05:29] did you want it on the LP home page or the mozilla LP page? === asac waiting for slowness of diff.gz creation :( [05:35] asac: which diff.gz are you talking about? [05:35] Ubulette: tonyyarusso https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam if that is not what you meant let me know [05:36] bluekuja: firefox in feisty/edgy [05:36] asac: ah^^ are you working on a security fix? [05:37] yes [05:38] asac: are you still developing that app with CORBA and J2EE? [05:39] huh? [05:39] which? [05:40] contelligent? [05:41] asac: read an article about you and that app, started in 1999, I guess [05:41] where? [05:41] on linuxtag [05:41] ah ... yeah ... luckily i am out of it ... got boring doing this for ages ;) [05:42] oh, so you stopped its development? [05:42] did not like that language [05:42] ? [05:42] no ... it wasn't my application it was a brokerage application ... later a content management system with CORBA/J2EE [05:42] well it got too boring to do that all the time [05:43] java is good for scalable server architectures [05:43] asac: and ....your blog? what happened there? [05:44] hehe ... provider upgraded PHP ... now its incompatible ... have to upgrade my blog software to latest :) [05:44] one of the many things i have to do once i get some time ;) [05:44] :) [05:44] i am not a great blogger anyway :) [05:45] hehe [05:45] I love blogs [05:45] nice to share your opinions and so on === thully [n=thully@southquad-186-86.reshall.umich.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [05:45] but maybe that's only on my side [05:49] ok im working on reworking the team ownership and admin list who wants to be an admin for mozillateam? [05:50] gnomefreak: on the ML? [05:50] no LP for now the i will bother mat east for ml when i get time [05:50] gnomefreak: I guess asac should be admin [05:51] if he wants it [05:51] (if he's ok for that of course) [05:51] gnomefreak: or you [05:51] ;) [05:51] bluekuja: i am [05:51] ah ok :) [05:51] david pulled himself off everything [05:52] so im trying to reorganize it [05:52] gnomefreak: yeah, well done [05:52] :) [05:52] just wait for asac opinion [05:52] ;) [05:53] i will thats why i asked [05:54] gnomefreak: yes i think it might be benefitial if would be admin for ML and LP [05:54] asac: ok ill work on it [05:55] remember ML is high traffic :) [05:55] thansk [05:55] gnomefreak: you are already admin, right? please stay admin as a backup [05:55] asac: i will [05:55] always [05:55] good [05:55] but i am asking for another to help out :) [05:56] gnomefreak: another admin? [05:56] why? [05:56] bluekuja: incase im not around (hospital or whatever) [05:56] since the only other admin was david [05:56] thully: open console and run 'top' [05:56] and hes gone from everything [05:56] scratch that === gnomefreak uses htop its pretty :) [05:57] gnomefreak: you mean for accepting new members et all? [05:57] yes [05:57] and adding things to LP pages and such [05:57] gnomefreak: if you and asac are ok, I can help out on lp if needed [05:57] no problem on it, really [05:58] thats what i thought. let me hijack the team first [05:59] oki [05:59] only owner can set admins i have an LP contact that should beable to help with it. [05:59] great === rexbron [n=rexbron@62.6.158.161] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [06:10] asac: you want admin for both mailing lists? and what email address would you like me to use? [06:10] ill brb need a smoke [06:11] gnomefreak: two lists are -mozillateam and -mozillateam-bugs? [06:11] yes [06:17] ok ill be back later i need to get a few things done [06:18] gnomefreak: ok, I'll be available later as well [06:18] just ping me if needed [06:18] k [06:18] take care [06:18] you too [06:18] :) [06:18] bluekuja: bye [06:18] asac: cya later, good work in the meantime [06:23] thully: can we chat here in channel in future? its cumbersome for me to do PM :) [06:23] thully: this channel doesn't (yet) have much noise ... so its a perfect place for debuggin [06:23] One question for you, as you're a developer - who would I go to with gnome-power-manager regressions? I had a patch which fixed some of the issues, but no one has looked into it... [06:24] thully: which code that the patch affect?= [06:24] thully: do you have a bug id? [06:24] the issue is that brightness is increased to max on idle when running on AC with "idle dim" disabled [06:25] 137598 [06:25] bug 137598 [06:25] Launchpad bug 137598 in gnome-power-manager "Screen brightness resets to default (maximum) on idle with AC plugged in" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137598 [06:25] thully: there is no patch in that bug [06:25] oh wait there is [06:27] thully: ok i asked someone ... lets see ;) [06:28] OK - I have to go in a few minutes [06:28] n-m just crashed again [06:28] log [06:28] on suspend/resume? [06:29] no [06:29] thully: someone asks if you still see the power-manager bug with latest [06:29] thully: pleaes post the syslog so i see if its the same [06:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/940/ [06:30] yeah ... the same ... thats ugly [06:31] thully: will you come back later? [06:31] yeah, in like an hour or 2 [06:31] ok [06:33] g-p-m bug still occuring with latest version [06:34] thully: someone mentioned that you didn't follow up on questions the TB sent you? [06:34] What I do is 1) plug in 2) lower brightness to min 3) wait a minute or 2 then my brightness spontaneously changes to max [06:34] asac: what questions? [06:34] tb? [06:34] technical-board [06:35] I thought I answered all their questions... [06:35] I thought they were under the impression this was MacBook specific... [06:35] (which it isn't) [06:37] who sent said message? I could check if it somehow ended up in my spambox... [06:38] ... i am just a proxy and have no details ... anyway, calling people to send complains to technical-board is unlikely to get you anywhere ... thats all i can say [06:39] OK - but who should I contact? I just looked through my contacts with the technical-board, and from what I see I answered all their questions [06:40] well ... in general you cannot do more than opening a bug and providing feedback if asked to. [06:40] asac, xul builds successfully again [06:40] well - I guess it was somewhat different as I had a patch which several people said resolved the problem... [06:41] Ubulette: good [06:42] thully: no idea ... you can ask on #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-desktop to get a review for a patch [06:42] OK [06:42] be back in an hour or so... [06:42] thanks [06:43] oh, i have a new "Places" folder in my bookmarks bar [06:43] :) === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mozillateam.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Topic for #ubuntu-mozillateam: Home of Ubuntu Mozilla Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Bug Triagers please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/ + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures | Firefox trunk package source : https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.dev | Mailing List: ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com === Topic (#ubuntu-mozillateam): set by Ubulette at Tue Oct 2 20:39:32 2007 === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:32] we dont package google toolbar and TBH i dont think we can/should since we cant/wont package any other google apps including google earth and iirc there is a reason for this. i would guess its something to do with license they use. [09:32] bluekuja: no news yet [09:33] i have a few more things to do before i can be here for a while but i will ping him when i get a chance. [09:36] asac: btw found a big security hole in firefox for windows. some virus called downloader its high in all sections seems to attach itself to firefox profile, i know we dont deal with windows but if you get a chance or have heard about it please let me know of anything that i should know about it. there were 2 of them same name same profile same risk values. [09:38] gone again [10:08] gnomefreak: ok, looks fine :) [10:08] ;) [10:08] gnomefreak: they should give the possibility to change owners [10:08] when old one get de-activated [10:08] maybe a next feature [10:08] i agree [10:08] would be nice to have === Admiral_laptop [n=Freddy@adsl-68-72-100-66.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:08] but i will ping him today or tomorrow [10:09] gnomefreak: steve alexander? [10:09] yeah [10:09] gnomefreak: but I guess any lp admin is ok for that [10:09] bluekuja, are the deluge guys part of your team ? or do they have a team of their own ? [10:09] I'll talk with mrevell about having that as a new feature [10:09] any LP admin might help me that way [10:09] yep [10:10] Ubulette: mmm...currently I have a contact for deluge [10:10] Ubulette: he usually gets on on the irc channel, update me with news [10:10] and get into the dark again [10:11] Ubulette: we had a small problem with deluge [10:11] bluekuja, i see zachtib trying to set up his ppa [10:11] Ubulette: where? [10:11] which channel? [10:11] bluekuja, https://edge.launchpad.net/~zachtib/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all [10:12] Ubulette: mmmm...thanks for reporting this [10:13] Ubulette: I didnt talk with him yet [10:13] he's doing 0.5.5, I already have 0.5.5.95+svn20071015r2002 working [10:13] Ubulette: do you know him? [10:13] no [10:13] have a chance to get him inside the channel? [10:13] isn't he one of the upstream authors ? [10:13] yes [10:14] gnomefreak: seems that SteveA is inactive since 2 days [10:14] gnomefreak: SteveA: 2d 9h 27m 19s [10:14] he was just in motu an hour or 3 ago or devel [10:14] one of the 2 [10:14] mmm...that's lp channel stats then [10:16] gnomefreak: salgado may help too [10:16] or Bjorn [10:16] nvm scottk was in motu [10:16] ah^^ [10:16] salgado: 0d 1h 4m 42s [10:16] maybe he's around [10:16] Ubulette: I was saying [10:17] Ubulette: deluge ships libtorrent too with the package itself [10:17] which is wrong, as I told you some time ahgo [10:17] talking about this === Admiral_Chicago cuts the awkwardness with a butter knife [10:21] bluekuja, I know. but so far, there's still no package for that lib. [10:21] Ubulette: yeah, exactly [10:21] or at least there is one unofficial [10:21] on btg [10:21] i haven't had time to do that myself === Admiral_laptop [n=Freddy@adsl-68-72-97-130.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Ubulette_ [n=Ubulette@APuteaux-153-1-56-139.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host72-133-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:42] going to bed [10:42] night everyone [10:46] @++ bluekuja :) === cwong1 [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-7b67f52245639764] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:02] Does anyone know if acrobat reader suppose to work in firefox-gusty? [11:03] cwong1: there are a few apps but the acoread one is gone [11:04] gnomefreak: are you saying acrobat reader will not be supported in gusty? [11:04] cwong1: the package acroread will not be in gutsy there are other apps that do the same thing [11:04] gnomefreak: can you give me their names? [11:05] acroread would help you opening pdf in ff. i thought 3.0 was changing that though [11:05] cwong1: evince is what is installed by default [11:05] cwong1: you can ask mithrandir ... i think he planned to put it into the commercial archive. [11:05] cwong1: off hand no if you give me a few i can use search [11:05] cwong1: but acrobat probably doesn't come with a ffox plugin. but i am not sure. Most apps you can plug-in to firefox using mozplugger. [11:06] bug 153057 [11:06] Launchpad bug 153057 in evince "Evince doesn't display PDF-documents done with InDesign" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153057 [11:06] (most apps that don't have a native plugin) [11:06] acroread was a great app/plugin [11:07] it worked most of the time for me [11:07] on gusty? [11:07] it didn't work for me. [11:07] cwong1: for acroread ask mithrandir (tollef) [11:08] asac: will do. tx [11:08] otherwise see if you can live with evince ... which works great for most of the the documents out there === rexbron [n=rexbron@62.6.158.161] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:59] https://edge.launchpad.net/~evarlast/+archive/+build/410419 [11:59] asac, bluekuja ? [11:59] ^^ [12:12] Ubulette: is that torrent rasterbar? [12:15] Ubulette: https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org [12:21] i dont know. I found that while watching ppa's build logs [12:29] asac, hmm, I can't connect to https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/ with ff3 [12:30] Secure Connection Failed [12:30] [12:30] [12:30] [12:30] [12:30] [12:30] [12:30] [12:30] [12:30] An error occurred during a connection to mozilla.qa.stgraber.org:443 because it uses an invalid security certificate. [12:30] The certificate is not trusted or its issuer certificate is invalid. [12:30] Ubulette: are you getting the certs [12:30] (sec_error_unknown_issuer) [12:30] (oops) [12:30] and accepting them [12:30] no [12:30] well just one [12:30] than i would say ff 3.0 isnt giving them to you [12:30] :) [12:31] well, ssl is okay for other sites [12:31] Ubulette: thats probably due to a broken security store/nss [12:31] but some are not working [12:31] the 3.0 in gutsy works .) [12:32] maybe self-signs certs are broken for you? [12:32] Ubulette: i think you need the root cert of http://www.cacert.org/ ... if you are not too paranoid about that :) [12:33] http://www.cacert.org/certs/root.crt :) [12:33] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ssl.png [12:34] ff2 asks me to accept [12:34] is ff2 with system nss ? [12:35] yep, same nss, so it's ff3 [12:36] its not same nss is it? [12:36] lsof shows the same libs are loaded [12:37] 3.11.5-3 this is same version as yours? [12:37] no, i'm using the cvs ones [12:37] Ubulette: maybe its a missing link ? [12:38] Ubulette: try with the nss from paa [12:38] against latest firefox [12:38] but i guess you already tested that [12:38] ff2 is loading /usr/lib/firefox/components/libpipnss.so [12:39] what's that ? [12:39] hm, no such thing in ff3/xul1.9 [12:39] hmm ... never new the difference ... but is public key infrastructre related i guess [12:40] Ubulette: yes was probably merged into something [12:40] well, all the loaded nss libs are the same [12:40] libpipboot.so libpipnss.so libpippki.so [12:40] maybe those are now merged