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tgm4883How do you know it gets stuck at 36%?01:20
localgod11it tells me01:21
localgod11i get to the loading screen adn the system locks up01:22
tgm4883can you ctrl-alt-F1 or is it a hard lock?01:22
localgod11hard01:22
tgm4883system specs?01:22
localgod11p4 1.6gh01:23
localgod11512 ram01:23
tgm4883and this happens every time?01:23
localgod11yep01:23
tgm4883vid card?01:23
localgod11nvidia mx 40001:23
tgm4883prop driver installed?01:24
localgod11installed legacy nvidia01:24
localgod11geforce01:24
localgod11not geforce 201:24
tgm4883has it ever started correctly?01:24
localgod11nope01:25
tgm4883and this is a standard mythbuntu install?01:25
localgod11yep01:25
localgod11i installed but didnt use fiesty and it worked fine01:25
tgm4883hmm01:25
localgod11ideas01:25
tgm4883huh?01:26
localgod11i have about 20 hrs into this01:26
tgm4883what does this mean "i installed but didnt use fiesty and it worked fine"01:26
localgod11i installed fiesty and it went it looked ok01:27
localgod11but then i trashed it and installed myth01:27
tgm4883ok sec01:27
localgod11k01:27
tgm4883very odd01:28
tgm4883did you md5sum the iso and verify the cd after burning?01:29
localgod11yep01:29
localgod11i think01:30
tgm4883what cd did you install with?01:33
localgod11i downloaded the current iso01:33
tgm4883k01:33
therethinkerhas he tried verifing the CD?01:33
localgod11and now01:33
tgm4883also, what did you do to get it up to 36%?01:33
localgod11it was loading themes i think01:34
localgod11prescaling theme images01:34
localgod11stopped at 36%01:34
tgm4883right, but what has changed so that it now loads up to 36%01:34
localgod11nothing01:35
localgod11that as far as i ever get01:35
tgm4883right, but before it was only loading to 16%, now it's up to 36%.01:35
localgod11h01:36
localgod11yah01:36
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localgod11 i changed the ram from 256  sorry i got alot going on here01:36
therethinker$test01:36
mythbotAlthough I didn't know, ubotu says: Failed.01:36
therethinker$poke MitoTranin01:36
mythbot/me stabs mitotranin violently with a rusty spoon01:36
tgm4883so how much do you have now01:37
localgod1151201:37
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localgod11cd integrity is OK01:37
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tgm4883and memtest checks out fine?01:38
therethinker$4201:39
mythbotSorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Year 42 was a common year starting on Monday (link will display the full calendar) of the Julian calendar." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4201:39
localgod11i thought 42 was the answer01:39
localgod11yes01:39
tgm4883what tuners?01:39
localgod11none01:40
localgod11only using for playback01:40
tgm4883playback of recording?  is this a frontend only?01:40
MitoTraninlocalgod11: if you haven't ever used this system yet, I would definitely reinstall now that you have upgraded the ram01:41
localgod11no its a full install but i am only using for playback not a full dvr01:41
MitoTraninwhen you do install, make sure to choose the restricted drivers for nvidia legacy01:41
tgm4883did you do any custom partitioning?01:41
localgod11really why would a ram upgrade require a reinstall01:41
MitoTraninlocalgod11: because 256 isn't enough to properly run the livecd01:42
localgod11MitoTranin: i did than when i installed01:42
localgod11but would a ram upgrade really require a reinstall?01:42
MitoTraninlocalgod11: my point is that 256mb wasn't enough for your installation environment to function properly01:43
MitoTraninsomething might have not happened properly during the installation, which could be a cause to this type of problem01:43
MitoTraninI realize that reinstalling normally shouldn't be a first-step solution01:43
MitoTraninBUT01:43
MitoTraninI'm taking your word that you've already spent 20 hours working on this01:43
MitoTraninthat, coupled with the fact that it's only a frontend, and the fact that you've never used it, means that you will loose nothing during the process of reformatting it01:44
MitoTraninSo... just to start with a clean slate, and to make sure that everything is as we expect it (we have no idea what you did in that 20 hours, but we do know what to expect from a clean install)01:45
MitoTraninwe can help you a lot more when we know what state you are in... and right now, you have 20 hours of "messing with things" trying to get it to work, that we don't know about...01:45
localgod11lol01:46
localgod1120 hours was spent installing 3 diff opertaing systems01:46
localgod11i am indiscive01:46
localgod11brb01:47
MitoTraninlocalgod11: anyways, what I was going to suggest was this:  reinstall clean, with installing the restricted drivers, even though you said you just did it... this time though with the bumped up ram01:53
MitoTraninif that still has the same problem, then without even troubleshooting I would again reinstall, this time with the standard non-restricted drivers01:54
localgod1102:03
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localgod11we are re-installing...02:07
localgod11fug it02:07
localgod11!!!02:07
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propagandhidoes anybody know of a PCIe 1x tuner card that works?02:12
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MythbuntuGuest39Hello?02:18
therethinker$hello!02:18
mythbotSorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Hello! is a weekly magazine specialising in celebrity news and gossip, published in Britain." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello!02:18
therethinker$hello02:18
mythbotWelcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.02:18
tgm4883nice02:18
MythbuntuGuest39I'm having a problem with the latest Mythbuntu not changing channels properly02:18
MythbuntuGuest39I've done some testing and running ivtv-tune to change channels works fine02:19
therethinker$slap tgm488302:19
mythbot/me slaps tgm488302:19
MythbuntuGuest39but Mythbuntu will only seem to change channels once02:19
gibAfter I logged on my mybuntu main front/back end machine hooked to my tv from a remote front end client it changed my themes to the ones used on the remote front end, and also my "Play DVD" setting went away?  Why did that happen, and what do I need to do to get the "Play DVD" option back on the "Optical Disk" menu?02:19
MythbuntuGuest39I'd suggest reseting your theme on the box connected to your TV as a start.02:21
gibAny idea why the theme on the remote machine would reset the one on the main box?02:21
gibDo you have to use a different user name from each machine?02:22
MythbuntuGuest39I'm not sure. I'd set the themes on both boxes to be the same as a workaround, though.02:24
localgod11ok have reinstalled02:25
localgod11now i have to setup the back end02:25
MythbuntuGuest39Anyone else here having channel changing problems with a PVR-150?02:26
tgm4883no02:26
tgm4883is this a standard mythbuntu install?02:26
gibWhat kind of problems are you having?  I just ordered one of those because it seems to be the best supported, and can't get mpeg2 hardware encoding to work on the card I have.02:27
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MythbuntuGuest39Yes, standard install.02:34
MythbuntuGuest39Well, there was a new RC released this weekend that I've upgraded to, but otherwise standard Mythbuntu02:34
MythbuntuGuest39I like to do things the easy way!02:34
MythbuntuGuest39Anyway, strangely if I exit the frontend and go to a command prompt, I can change channels with ivtv-tune02:35
MythbuntuGuest39I've tested recording and everything works as expected.02:35
MythbuntuGuest39Channels change back and forth properly.02:36
gibDid you set your frequency table to the one used by your cable company, or just leave it on default?02:36
MythbuntuGuest39As soone as I try to change a channel through the Myth frontend, I get one change then it won't change any more.02:36
MythbuntuGuest39I set it to my cable company's02:36
MythbuntuGuest39The ivtv module says I've got firmware version0x02050032 but recommends 0x02060039. Could this be a problem?02:37
gibWhat about if you type in the channel # instead of doing +-?02:39
MythbuntuGuest39Well, I'm not too concerned about LiveTV. The problem happens on scheduled recordings02:39
MythbuntuGuest39The first program I schedule records the correct channel, after that, no channel changes.02:40
MythbuntuGuest39So, I'm guessing the problem exists whether typing in the number directly or doing +-02:40
localgod11ok so i reinstalled and thing look good but i have no pic on the tv02:41
localgod11i can load the front and back end on the monitor but nothin on the tv02:41
localgod11help02:42
tgm4883localgod11, how is the computer hooked up to the tv?02:42
gibI have a similar problem with my card, but it has lots of problems and is not well supported.  It changes channels like it is supposed on on Live TV, but never actually  changes channels like it is supposed to for scheduled recordings.  I just get garbage because it does tune.02:43
gibIt's pretty weird.  I'm not sure what is different between tuning to record as you watch and scheduling a recording.02:43
gibI hope I don't still have that problem after shelling out for the new card.  That would really suck.02:44
localgod11svid02:44
tgm4883MythbuntuGuest39, the cable is coming straight from the wall?  Not though a cable box?02:44
localgod11i installed the propritary nvid drivers02:44
tgm4883localgod11, did you setup the tv screen in Xorg Config?02:45
localgod11i am about to02:45
localgod11and ideas for the setup the tv is an old rear projection02:45
tgm4883localgod11, well the setup should be somewhat explanitory.  What kind of idea are you looking for?02:46
localgod11res and hrtz02:46
gibWell, I figured out why my theme changes.  It's gone, so it reverted to the default.  I used to have about 7 themes to chose from, now I have only 3.02:46
localgod11i should set it up like screen 2 right?02:47
tgm4883gib, is mythtv themes installed?02:47
tgm4883localgod11, i believe so02:47
localgod11ok02:47
tgm4883gib, err mythtv-themes02:47
MythbuntuGuest39Straight from the wall.02:47
localgod11plug and play?02:47
gibI think it was, but it it must have been auto uninstalled by some other package.  Strange.02:47
tgm4883localgod11, is this a standalone machine or are you planning on using the desktop on it?02:48
localgod11if i am using nvidia legacy drivers should the nvida config utility be an option02:49
localgod11standalone02:49
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tgm4883ok, then i think you need to set it as your primary screen, with 640x480 resolution02:49
localgod11i can launch the restriced driver manager but not the nvidia config utiluty02:49
localgod11so set screen 2 as primary?02:50
tgm4883what about the xorg config utility?02:50
localgod11thats works02:50
tgm4883ok so setup the screen02:50
localgod11ok02:50
localgod11should i leave the model as unkown or change it to plug and play or something else02:51
gibHmm.  I reinstalled the themes, and it came back to what it was without even choosing it.  I just wasn't using it because it was looking for it, but it was gone.  I wonder what uninstalled it?02:52
tgm4883not sure about that02:52
tgm4883gib, tough to tell02:53
localgod11when i use "test" it resets the setting to what they were02:53
gibI suppose there is an apt log or something somewhere where you can trace down what package triggered an unistall.02:53
gibMaybe you need to have extra logging options turned on to track that kind of detail though.02:54
MythbuntuGuest39Does anyone know if there is a simple file that MythTV uses as a channel change script by default?02:55
MythbuntuGuest39Or does it do channel changes programatically in the code somewhere?02:55
localgod11ok now it only displays the backround image02:55
localgod11but i can ctrl-alt-f102:56
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tgm4883localgod11, which background image?02:56
MythbuntuGuest39If you've gotten that far localgod11, sounds like it's working.02:56
localgod11the one from the front end02:56
localgod11but its not on the tv yet only the monitor02:57
MythbuntuGuest39Ah02:57
localgod11ctrl-alt-bckspace?02:57
therethinkerthat resets X02:57
localgod11yah i know would that help here?02:57
localgod11know i am gettung the low graphics mode warning02:59
localgod11fug02:59
gibWhere do you tell mythtv that you have a DVD drive?  It must thing I don't have one anymore because "play DVD" doesn't show up on the optical disk menu anymore.03:00
tgm4883gib, is mythdvd still installed?03:01
gibOh, I get that got unintalled too.  I wonder what the hell happended.  Thanks, that must be it.03:02
MythbuntuGuest39Any thoughts on being able to intercept channel changes?03:05
MythbuntuGuest39I'm thinking that since ivtv-tune works for me, if I write a channel change script03:05
MythbuntuGuest39and I can get Mythbuntu to not attempt to change a channel itself, I may be good to go.03:06
MythbuntuGuest39Anyone with any thoughts to share?03:07
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gibDoes anyone else with the 150 have this same problem?  I sure hope I don't have that problem with it when I get it.  I read it was the best supported card.03:10
MitoTraninI had a 350 for a while until the sound on it died, and never had any problems with it03:11
MitoTranin(other than the sound dieing of course)03:11
MitoTranin* note: the 350 and the 150 are the same, except the 350 also has an output03:11
tazgodx_i have the 350, and its gread03:12
tazgodx_also have a 500, but do'nt have it plugged in yet03:12
MythbuntuGuest39I was running an earlier version of Knoppmyth with it no problem03:12
MitoTranin* note for gib: the 500 is simply two 150's on the same card03:13
gibI'm very limited in what I can use.  I need a low profile hardware MPEG2 card.  The only one's I've seen are the Hauppauge 150-lp, and the ADS pvt-350 that isn't working for me right now.03:13
MythbuntuGuest39Up until Zap2It labs disappeared03:13
tazgodx_yeah, thanks for pointing that out MitoTranin03:13
localgod11i keeo setting the grahics card to nvida and the system keeps changing it to vesa03:13
localgod11why?03:13
gibA 500-lp or 350-lp would be cool, but I'm not holding my breath.03:14
MitoTranindunno localgod11... are you doing anything afterwards, like changing settings in the nvidia config?  a lot of times changing the nvidia config will simply overwrite the xorg.conf file instead of editing it03:15
MitoTraninsorry all, I really can't talk right now though... I am on a timeline right now and need to get things done03:15
localgod11no i am not touching the nvidia config03:15
MitoTraningonna leave so I don't get tempted...03:15
localgod11damn03:16
tazgodx_i would try to help, but im jsuta  user like you guys. can only help with problems ive come accross and fixed03:16
MitoTranintgm4883, tgm4883_laptop superm1 therethinker etc < ping - maybe they can help...03:16
MitoTraninDaviey ^^^ maybe he can help too03:16
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tazgodx_im gonna try to finish pluggin in my mythbox03:17
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MythbuntuGuest39Doesn't look like I'll find my answer here. Thanks all.03:35
localgod11ferrari03:44
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localgod11anyone running an nvidia mx400 card?03:47
localgod11or can you tell me how to enable the proprietary divers?03:47
localgod11or both03:48
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MythbuntuGuest24hello03:54
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superNoob71hello03:54
superNoob71why did my monitor settings change when is set my graphics card drivers?03:55
superNoob71anyone here?03:55
localgod11what means: requested entity already in use03:56
superNoob71hellO03:57
superNoob71$hello03:57
localgod11anyone giving help today?04:17
localgod11fug04:24
tazgodxi don't know much04:25
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tazgodxhmm, i bought a spliter/amplifier, and now my signal SUCKS! a normal splitter was WAY better04:39
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, one of 2 things.  either a crappy amplifier, or your signal is too strong04:42
tgm4883_laptopor your signal is too crappy04:42
tazgodxsignal can be "too strong"?04:44
tgm4883_laptopyes04:44
tgm4883_laptopfunny as it sounds, it can be too strong04:45
tazgodxhmm, maybe ill just but a normal 4-way splitter04:45
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localgod11i cant get picture on the tv i am using an Nvidia gefore mx40005:09
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(gib/#ubuntu-mythtv) I got down to just gnucsh with nothing depending on it and it still wouldn't let me nuke it--how stupid is that?07:50
(gib/#ubuntu-mythtv) Good luck; It's a hard language. My brother speaks it 'cause his wife in from Toyko. My niece speaks both English and Japanese.07:51
tazgodxi have the rosetta stone software for japanese, supposed to be the best way to learn a new language. but i switched to linux shortly after getting it, and as far as i know, it doesn't work in linux :(07:52
Dr_willistazgodx,  try wine, or cedega, or perhaps use windows in a virtual machine.07:52
gibMaybe that's what happened, and I didn't notice it.  A lot of my myth packages got mysteriously uninstalled.07:53
gibYeah, I heard that's good.  Why not install virtualbox and run it that way?07:53
gibThe new VB 1.5 will even let you launch indivual win apps to the linux desktop with out making it be contained within the win desktop.07:54
gibPretty cool.07:54
gibhttp://www.nomachine.com/07:55
giboops07:56
gibwww.virtualbox.org07:56
rhpot1991hmmmm I'm thinking of downgrading to feisty now07:56
gibThat last one was in my paste buffer :)07:56
rhpot1991I wonder how bad of an idea that is07:56
gibgutsy is working well for me.  That dep issue was a function of the update process, not a flaw in gutsy.07:57
rhpot1991well I have a problem with vnc too07:57
rhpot1991and I don't have time to wait for the dependencies to get fixed07:58
gibHave you ever tried nx?07:58
solarbabyeither I have this new version configured wrong or its just buggy07:58
rhpot1991nope07:58
solarbabyI can't seem to record anything with it07:58
rhpot1991I'd rather just get vnc working again07:59
gibYou should give it a shot.  It's an order of magnitude faster than anything else.07:59
rhpot1991I got it to the point where I can login again, but I think its taking complete control over the system so that wont work when mythtv is running07:59
gibIt's hard to believe until you try it.07:59
solarbabymaybe the database is screwed up08:00
solarbabyHmmm..08:01
tazgodxwith virtual box do i need a valid copy of windows to install?08:01
rhpot1991I don't like the fact that nx needs to piggyback off of ssh08:02
rhpot1991as I already use 22 to ssh into my router08:02
gibWell, you need a copy of Windows.  I'm not sure if it needs to be valid or not.  I've only tried a valid copy.08:02
rhpot1991why do you need windows?08:02
tazgodxfor those crappy windows programs that only run on windows08:03
gibYou can use nx and shh at the same time.  I do it all the time.08:03
rhpot1991does the nx viewer only work in windows?08:03
rhpot1991ya but in order for me to use 22 to my router, I would need to change the port ssh uses on my mythbox08:04
solarbabyhow do you run the mc.sql script?08:04
solarbabyIm gunna destroy my database and see if starting from the begining resolves my recording problems08:04
gibI've only used nx with linux.  You can install the whole thing in like two minutes.  Just click on client and let chose install with gdebi, than repeat with node, then server.08:05
solarbabythe deleting the mysql database instructions should be updated not only to notify you that you need to run the mc.sql script but also tell how how to run it08:05
rhpot1991is it faster than vnc?08:06
Wy|laptopHrm, any opinions on this?08:06
gibYes, it's ungodly fast.  It's like black magic. :)08:06
solarbabyforget it I think i figured it out08:06
rhpot1991hmmmm08:07
Wy|laptopplayback of video occasionally goes all green-staticy, as if mplayer took a crap or something08:07
gibLike I said you won't believe it 'til you try.  I didn't think that would be possible.08:07
Wy|laptopand the only way to fix it is to reboot the xserver (ctrl-alt-backspace) after which everything works again08:07
Wy|laptophardware, crappy nvidia dirvers, or crappy mplayer?08:08
rhpot1991I'll give it a try I guess08:08
rhpot1991anyone have any idea when gutsy repos will be fixed?08:08
gibI have a bunch of non-tech relatives on Kubuntu, and I maintain their machines for them over nx and it's just like I'm sitting at their machines.08:08
gibWell, it'd better be soon 'cause release day is Thurs.08:09
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rhpot1991gib: do you have gutsy sources for nx?08:12
rhpot1991I only see fiesty ones08:12
gibJust click and install directly from Nomachine.  Their deb versions work fine on all Debian-based distros.08:13
gibIncluding gutsy08:13
gibEven though it's not listed.08:14
gibIt's pretty much self contained so it doesn't matter much what you have installed.08:14
gibIt doesn't break because of deps and versioning because it keep it's own version of the things it needs in it's own directories.08:15
gibDon't confuse it with freenx which is VERY version dep, and breaks easily.08:16
gibIt's confusing because the "free version of MX" and freeNX are not the same.08:18
gibNX08:18
gibThe Free version of NX works much better than freeNX.  The only advantage of freeNX is that that it is open sourced.  They are both free as in no cost.08:20
solarbabyI really want to Love MythTV but right now I just dont know08:20
solarbabyit seems a little buggy08:21
gibYou'll love it when you get it all tweaked out just right, but by then you'll be too tired to use it ;)08:21
solarbabyI hear ya Mate!08:22
solarbabyIm already tired.. and its giving me issues08:22
solarbabyit doesn't like to actually record anything, but TV watching is fine08:22
rhpot1991I think I'll worry about all this tomorrow08:22
rhpot1991might work from home so I can try and get it back up and running08:22
solarbabyit sez its going to record, then it doesn't.. then it tells me it has conflicts and with stuff that it also isn't recording hehe08:22
rhpot1991sounds like a db problem08:23
solarbabysi I just deleted the database, hopefully that'll help08:23
gibWhat card do you have?  I have a similar issue, but my card is poorly supported because it is relatively rare.  I broke down and ordered a different one.08:23
solarbabyHauppauge 35008:23
solarbabyThey seem to support my card rather well08:23
rhpot1991350 is a good card, I have one08:23
rhpot1991works perfectly fine08:24
solarbabythats great, I look forward to getting Myth working the way it was intended.. so far it's just really been a rough time08:24
solarbabyso far I've spent a week on it08:24
solarbabysigh08:24
rhpot1991it takes a lot of messing with08:24
gibMine records live and also records scheduled,  but doesn't seen to tune the channel before starting scheduled recordings.08:24
rhpot1991in general08:24
solarbabynow that im running the most current version the install was real nice08:25
tazgodxive been messing with it for like 4 months, and still tweaking it here and there08:25
solarbabydoesn't tune the channels?  do you have a IR device that turns your channels?08:25
solarbabythe whole reason I installed Myth.. was because theres a python script for xbox that allows me to access Mythbackend08:26
solarbabyhehe08:26
gibIt tunes when I choose watch TV and type in a channel, but it just seems to record without setting the channel for scheduled recordings.08:27
solarbabyIm coming from the GBPVR family.. finally decided to give them up for something better..  and I was surprised that Myth isn't really much further along then GBPVR08:27
solarbabygib:thats really not good08:27
gibWell, like I said, the card is not well supported.08:28
gibI've yet to talk to anyone who has one.08:28
solarbabygib: does the card suck?08:28
gibADS PTV-305.08:28
gibI think it would be ok if the firmware was 100% right for it.08:29
solarbabygib: nod08:29
gibI got it because the MythTV wiki said someone somewhere got it to work at one point in time :))08:30
solarbabygib: that makes me laugh08:30
gibNot sure who this person was though, and with what kernel08:30
gib:)08:30
solarbabygib: I bought my Hauppage 350 because SageTV recommended it08:30
solarbabygib: I was very lucky that other platforms also supported this card08:30
solarbabygib: I didn't wanna stick with SageTV after my version expired08:31
solarbabygib: they are expensive and they are not the best08:31
gibI guess the lesson is, don't buy something that isn't owned by many other users 'cause it won't get much attention and when bugs get injected in new kernels and such nobody will notice or care.08:31
solarbabygib: there you go.. thats perfect logic08:32
gibSo I ordered a 150-lp.  The only other hardware MPEG2 card that will fit in a slimline case.08:33
solarbabyI run a Small Form Factor box myself08:34
solarbabymost cards fit thankfully08:34
gibIt doesn't have a remote, but I got the remote part of the ADS-305 to work so I got something out of it anyway.08:34
gibMine is not just small form factor, but low, as in needing low profile cards.08:35
gibWhich really limits your options severely.08:35
solarbabyyeah it does08:36
solarbabythe remote control that comes with the 350 works really nicely with Myth08:37
tazgodxhttp://www.ambientweather.com/ptjasav23290.html08:37
gibAs far as I know, I'll own ALL of the low profile MPEG2 cards :))08:37
solarbabynow if I could only get my USBUIRT to broadcast channel changes to my Satalite Box I'd be in good shape08:37
giball two of them08:37
solarbabyhahah08:37
tazgodxis that a good 4-way splitter/amplifier?08:37
solarbabyshrug08:38
gibI have a 4-way amp I put in like 7 years ago.  It cost like $150 though.  That seems really cheap.08:39
tazgodx$150?!?108:41
tazgodxi don't have that kind of money08:41
tazgodx$15 i do have tho08:41
gibMaybe the costs have come way down since then, I don't know, or many they just don't do anything to control noise.08:43
gibmaybe08:43
tazgodxthats actually the one i have, and if its actually working, it SUX08:44
gibI think mine is a channelmaster, and I'm searching for some and seeing $40 for 4-way, so maybe the prices have some way down.08:46
giboh, wait08:47
gibmine is a ChannelVision08:47
tazgodxhttp://www.altex.com/product_info.php?products_id=505708:50
tazgodx?08:50
gibHere is one on amazon with a couple of five star reviews.08:50
gibhttp://www.amazon.com/Channel-Vision-CVT-2-4PIA-Amplified/dp/B000KPS3GS08:50
gibPrice seems good.08:50
tazgodxhave to buy from other customers tho, amazon doesn't have any08:52
gibNot just another user.  It's an associated seller you can purchase from through the regular Amazon shopping cart.08:54
gibIt just isn't shipped from them and you won't get their free shipping.08:54
tazgodxdon't amplifiers need a power cord?08:55
gibYes08:56
gibThe power adapter has a regular coax cable with coupler on the end that screws into the power in terminal just like any other cable device08:58
tazgodxthis one i have is retarded, i unplug it, and it gives me the same crappy video quality, i plug it in, no change. what the hell08:58
gibIt's either broken, or it signal strength is offset by the noise it introduces.08:59
tazgodxcrappy frys equiptment09:00
gibYou could also try calling your cable company and compaining that you don't have a powerful enough signal coming in and tell them to up the power from the street.09:00
gibThen you could get buy with a normal splitter.09:01
tazgodxi actually probably could get away with a normal splitter09:01
tazgodxit was perfect with just a 2-way splitter09:02
gibIf you have a cable modem you should be able to tell how strong of a signal you are receiving by checking the modems status page.09:02
tazgodxi have a cable modem, but im on DSL now.09:03
gibDid you ever check the signal strength09:03
gib?09:03
tazgodxbut i know my dad had to increase the signal when he had the extension put in09:03
gibYou can get a status page from most modems by typing in 192.168.100.1 on most cable modems.09:04
gibMy Dad is right next to the cable box (It's in his yard), and I had to have him put a splitter on just too loose signal strength on purpose for his modem to work because his level was so high.09:05
gibThat's rare though.09:05
gibThe opposite problem is much more common.09:06
tazgodxim thinking taht a amplifier isn't needed in my room, i think they were just here and installed a smplifier just outside my room to the cable running just to my room09:07
tazgodxmaybe ill just try a normal splitter09:07
gibWell, if you get a strong picture without one, there is no reason to use one.09:08
tazgodxwell i had a 2-way splitter, but i wanted to split it 4 ways, and thought i would get an amplifier09:08
gibYou haven't tried a regular 4-way splitter yet?09:09
tazgodxnope09:09
gibthe regular 4 way I have reduces signal strength by -709:10
gibWhat is your 2-way marked as?09:10
gib-4?09:10
tazgodxdoesn't say09:11
tazgodxhttp://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=31949209:11
tazgodxthats a link to it09:11
tazgodxi don't see specs on it anywhere09:12
gibI can't rotate it, but they are usually marked in tiny raised letters right next to the output terminals.09:13
giblike 4dB09:13
gibmeaning 4dB signal loss09:13
tazgodxnope, doesn't say anything09:14
gibThat's strange.  I've never seen one with no markings before.09:14
tazgodxthink ill run to radio shack tomorrow, and pick up a splitter and try it out.09:15
gibRadio shack ones may be crap though.09:15
gibSome splitters are very low quality.09:15
gibThe ones the cable companies use tend to be the best.09:16
gibThey've left several behind over the years so I use theirs.09:16
tazgodxwhat is an acceptable loss for a 4-way splitter?09:16
gibI've bought a few and they've replaced them with theirs for no charge because they say they don't trust the quality of most of the ones you find in the stores.09:17
gibThat all depends on how must signal strength you have to begin with.09:17
gibThey don't all meet their own specs though, so you can't really tell which ones are quality unless you talk to someone you uses a lot of them and has experience them.09:19
gibSome devices need a strong signal too, while others work fine with a weak signal.09:22
gibWell, I'd better get to bed.  Goodnight.09:22
tazgodxnight09:23
tazgodxhmmm, am i getting disconnected again?09:42
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hugol1hi mythtv stoped working09:53
hugol1I had a crash on one of the front-ends09:54
hugol1I had to stop it using alt+f409:54
hugol1since then mythtv was slower09:54
hugol1and after the second crash, non of the frontends work09:54
hugol1when I click on watch tv it just goes back to the menu after a few seconds of a black screen09:55
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tazgodxwhat did you do to make it stop working? change anything?10:04
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solarbabyOk I reinstalled only to find out that even with a fresh install I still can't record tv shows10:56
solarbabyI think something is seriously wrong with the new version of Mythbuntu10:57
solarbabyBah..10:57
solarbabyleast the remote works10:57
solarbabyheh10:57
solarbabyMythbuntu works so well besides the fact that it doesn't perform any pvr duties10:58
tazgodxhaha11:00
tazgodxwhast the problem?11:00
solarbabyI can watch live tv just fine..  but when I want to record something it sez its recording and it doesn't record..  so I thought maybe it was a database issue.. so I reinstalled..  naw..  every time its the same thing11:01
solarbabysometimes it tells me that the recording was aborted..  I'll go fetch the log right now and paste it up for you if you care to take a look11:01
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tazgodxi take it you just have the 1 tuner?11:04
solarbabyyup11:05
tazgodxhmmmm11:06
solarbabyhttp://paste-it.net/394711:07
solarbabyIm actually getting pretty good with Myth, but I need it to be usable ;)11:07
tazgodxand if you watch normal TV and hit record what does it say?11:08
solarbabyIt either gives me an error or it doesn't..  in either case..  no recording..  the only way I can get myself an mpg file is to watch live tv11:08
tazgodxso it does record if you watch live tv...thats weird11:09
solarbabysince this install is virgin I know I didn't currupt anything11:09
solarbabywell.. i wouldn't say it records, it just leaves an mpg11:09
solarbabyit leaves a live tv mpg11:09
tazgodxyeah11:10
tazgodxgoing through a STB?11:10
solarbabywhats that?11:10
tazgodxset top box11:10
solarbabyyup11:11
solarbabyIm with Dish Network11:11
tazgodxTVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to 356. Reverting to kState_None11:11
tazgodxguess its ahving a problem changing channels?11:11
solarbabyyeah, I can't figure why11:12
tazgodxand you do have a IR Blaster set up? on top of the STB?11:12
solarbabyI dont.. I do have a USBUIRT though11:13
solarbabyhaven't gotten it to work yet..11:13
tazgodxwell wish i could help ya, your gonna probably have to wait for one of the devs11:14
solarbabyYeah.. I figured this is going to be completely crippling.. I appreciate you taking a peck at it11:15
tazgodxi just stayed at a holiday in express last night, but it didn't help me as much as the commercials tell you it will11:15
solarbabyhehe11:15
tazgodxfunny part is i seriously did :)11:16
solarbabyIm gunna try out MythDora now..  maybe their install doesn't have the same issues this one does11:50
solarbabyI just can't seem to make this one work out, shame too cause Im really fond of it11:51
directhex|workif you need to use an IR blaster, things get complicated12:11
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hugol1whooohooo!12:52
hugol1XD12:52
therethinkerWhat?12:52
hugol1this wasnt for here :-P12:52
therethinkerooookkkaaayy...12:52
solarbabyI've just verified the lack of ability to record in both the new version and the previous version12:59
solarbabyMaybe by the time Mythbuntu makes its final release it'll be usable01:01
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arcticblueanyone here?01:01
solarbabyIm eating termites01:01
solarbabybut im listening01:02
arcticbluelol01:02
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arcticbluei have a suggestion to give to the mythbuntu team.  is this a good place to do it?01:02
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solarbabythe forum is the best place01:02
arcticbluek, thanks01:02
solarbabymost of the team are sleeping or at work01:03
arcticblueah, gotcha.01:03
solarbabyI hang out and eat termites01:03
arcticbluelol01:03
arcticblueIm getting ready to eat dinner myself01:03
stevetvsigh...hi guys.. thinking about a dd01:03
solarbabyHeya Steve01:04
stevetvhey solarbaby :-) .. mythbubtu isn't partitioned correctly01:04
solarbabystevetv: sadly enough I'll be leaving mythbuntu until a new version comes out..  not being able to record anything really puts a damper on my pvr01:04
stevetvlol.. that wasnt meant to be an insult01:04
stevetvrecord?  works for me?01:05
stevetvi think...01:05
solarbabyhahaha really? and really?01:05
arcticblueI'll be finding out if it works for me here soon.  I had a little bit of trouble with the universe/multiverse repositories a little bit ago01:05
directhex|worknot everyone needs to resort to using a set-top box, generally life is good with dvb-t01:05
solarbabytv watching works fine..  even leaves a mpg in the directory.. but if i ask it to record anything it might say it is, or it might even say it can'tl...  in any case.. it never records01:05
stevetvyeah.. my name is erl seemed to stop a bit early .. but it worked.01:05
directhex|worksolarbaby, how is it changing channel?01:06
solarbabyI have a Hauppauge 350 Tv Tuner with a SVIDEO Input..  I just run a svideo cord from my Satalite Dish Network Tuner and plug it into TV Card01:07
solarbabyI dont have any device like a IR blaster to change channels..01:07
directhex|worksolarbaby, then myth won't work01:07
stevetv350's appear troublesome01:07
directhex|worksolarbaby, if myth can't change to a channel which is showing the show you want, how is it meant to record it?01:08
solarbabymyth has no idea it can't change the channel01:08
solarbabyor does it?01:08
directhex|workyes it does. hence the error01:08
solarbabyhow silly is that!01:08
directhex|workthe exact error quoted, saying it was unable to change the channel01:08
solarbabyyeah I did see that error01:09
solarbabyso in order to use mythtv do I have to purchase a usb device?01:09
solarbabyI own a USBUIRT if I can make it work somehow01:09
directhex|workin order to use a PVR, the PVR needs to be able to change to the channel a show is on01:09
solarbabykinda..  I used other PVR software that didn't realise it couldn't change the channel, and I set my Satalite box to automaticly tune to the channel at the specified times01:10
directhex|workif you really want to schedule all your shows twice, which completely defeats the object, then i can think of a dirty hack01:11
directhex|worka very dirty hack.01:11
solarbabyI just want it to be useful..  I would love to use my USBUIRT or buy a device that will tune the channel01:11
stevetvsolarbaby.. you can make an ir blaster01:11
directhex|workyou need to tell myth to use a script to change channel. there's a field somewhere you can set the script.01:11
solarbabyIm downloading Mythdora right now in hopes that that one will work.. but if what you tell me is corrrect..  that one shouldn't work either01:12
directhex|workif you set the script to /bin/true, i think that should be enough (i.e. myth will run /bin/true somechannelnumber, get back a "no error" response code, and assume the change was successful)01:12
directhex|worksolarbaby, it is absolutely impossible for your setup to work with mythtv (not $some_mythtv_distro) as is01:12
solarbabyyeah im getting that impression myself01:13
solarbabyI took a look at an add for an IR Blaster, I dunno where i'd plug that thing in01:13
solarbabydo they have a USB one?01:13
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stevetvsolarbaby... im not entirely sure.  i live in australia, so i only watch dvt-b.  youre fancy cable box is beyond me.. im certain you could buy a usb blaster though01:17
solarbabydirecthex: i'd love to get my hands on that script and a howto01:17
solarbabystevetv: ah I see..  glad your not having to deal with this problem01:17
stevetvlol.. you have a pvr350 right?01:18
solarbabyyup01:18
solarbabybe back in a moment01:18
stevetvyou can use the ir blaster that came with that to speak to your cable box01:19
solarbabyare you certain of that?01:19
stevetvof course you'd need two.. one for the remote, and one for the cable box.01:19
stevetvlol.. no01:19
stevetvhttp://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=PVR150withSetTopBox01:19
stevetvis this vaguely related to what you want to do?  ... sorry i might be completely off the mark01:19
solarbabymy remote for the 350 works fine for controlling mythfrontend :)01:19
solarbabyI already have a USBUIRT that was ment to be used with the cable box..  but I just dont know how to configure it with myth.. worked great in GBPVR01:20
stevetvoooooohhhh.. right. well .. that should be easy01:21
stevetvhttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/USB-UIRT01:22
stevetvyou need to be confortable with recompiling lirc... but01:22
stevetvand this... http://www.usbuirt.com/phpBB2/ ... just search for mythtv01:23
propagandhihas anybody successfully configured the dvico fusion dvb-t nano or the DNTV Live! Tiny Twin USB01:23
solarbabyThanks Steve01:27
stevetvwell.. that myth wiki post will need some tweaks.. as its not specifically for ubuntu..01:27
solarbabyyeah..  I can't believe this is so hard at this stage of mythtv01:28
stevetv:-) .. post ur solution on the forum, maybe superm1 et al will include ur fix in a later release so its just works at some point01:30
directhex|worksolarbaby, as soon as lirc appears, you take a step back into the dark ages01:30
solarbabythat'd be great.. I'll make sure to take notes..01:30
stevetvmondoarchive -OVi -d /myth/backup/mondo -gF -s 4200m -E "/var/lib/mythtv /myth/backup"01:43
stevetv:-) ... hi.  the above would backup everything right?01:44
stevetvwell.. ill give it a crack and hope it doesn't try to backup my stupidly large video's directory.  im just hopefull that it gets everything except the video's, recordings, etc..01:52
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MitoTranin|Workgreetings all...02:49
MitoTranin|Workeveryone have a good weekend?02:49
Wy|laptop*yawn*02:49
Wy|laptopI'm not ready to go to work yet02:49
MitoTranin|Workyeah, I hear ya02:49
bendailey!pastebin03:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:05
MitoTranin|Work$pastebin | bendailey03:05
MitoTranin|Work$infect bendailey03:06
mythbot/me takes control of bendailey's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.03:06
bendailey$infect | MitoTranin|Work03:06
mythbot/me takes control of |'s computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.03:06
bendaileysweet a mythbot bug03:07
bendaileyMitoTranin|Work: it doesn't like your name :)03:07
MitoTranin|Worklol03:07
MitoTranin|WorkI'm immune to your pesky virus!03:08
DaveMorris$anything03:08
mythbotAlthough I didn't know, ubotu says: So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.03:08
MitoTranin|Work$poke bendailey03:08
mythbot/me stabs bendailey violently with a rusty spoon03:08
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bendailey$poke MitoTranin|Work03:18
bendaileymythbot: you home?03:18
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bendaileyping frink_03:49
rhpot1991hmmmm repo still broken03:53
MitoTranin|Workrhpot1991: ?04:13
MitoTranin|Workrhpot1991: which repos are broken, and from when?  I haven't had any problems with them for weeks...04:14
rhpot1991gutsy repos04:20
MitoTranin|Workwhen did they break?04:20
rhpot1991The following packages have unmet dependencies:04:20
rhpot1991  mythtv-backend-master: Depends: mythtv-database (= 0.20.2-0ubuntu10) but it is not going to be installed04:20
rhpot1991                         Depends: mythtv-backend (= 0.20.2-0ubuntu10) but it is not going to be installed04:20
rhpot1991I upgraded last night04:21
rhpot1991been broken ever since04:21
MitoTranin|WorkI haven't had the proper gutsy installed yet, but I have mythbuntu installed, and the repos were working fine last night...04:21
MitoTranin|Workthat's not broken04:21
MitoTranin|Workthat means you have to do a dist-upgrade04:21
MitoTranin|Workapt-get dist-upgrade04:21
rhpot1991let me try that in a second04:21
rhpot1991normally dist upgrade holds back an update04:21
rhpot1991this is a broken dependency04:21
MitoTranin|Workno04:22
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rhpot1991I'll try it as soon as this update is done04:22
MitoTranin|Workthis means the dependancy is being held back because it's from a newer dist04:22
MitoTranin|Workwhich, if you do a dist-upgrade, it will then install it04:22
rhpot1991mythtv isn't installed currently though04:23
rhpot1991upgrade removed it and I was stupid and let it04:23
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rhpot1991yep, nothing to dist-upgrade04:30
MitoTranin|Workrhpot1991: is this a backend-only system?04:38
tgm4883upgrade will only install upgraded packages, not any packages that you don't currently have installed.  dist-upgrade will upgrade you packages and if one of the upgrades has a new dependency that you do not have installed, then it will install that too.04:44
superm1rhpot1991, gutsy?04:44
superm1or feisty04:44
superm1that sounds like gutsy04:44
superm1and like a mirror hasn't finished syncing for you04:44
tgm4883if you get held back packages with dist-upgrade, then it is being held back because something it depends on isn't available in the mirror yet04:44
MitoTranin|Worksuperm1: he said he upgraded to gutsy, and since then it's broken04:44
superm1MitoTranin|Work, yeah there was a mythtv update that should be hitting the mirrors today04:45
MitoTranin|Workmy thought was the dist-upgrade should have worked04:45
MitoTranin|Workbut that was before I didn't know it wasn't installed anymore04:45
superm1MitoTranin|Work, well not until all the packages are available on the mirror04:46
tgm4883thats why i specifically look at what it is going to uninstall before i upgrade :)04:46
tgm4883im not really sure why is uninstalled it though04:46
superm1rhpot1991, did you just make this post in the forums?04:47
superm1or is that someone else?04:47
bendailey/04:48
bendaileysorry wrong screen04:48
pdragon this might be a good link to add to mythbot about what bug statuses mean  http://news.launchpad.net/general/of-bugs-and-statuses04:55
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tafkazupdating to 1468105:32
tafkazlets hope gl is possible again05:33
tafkazwhy do i have re-put the ip-adress of my backend every time i update..05:35
tgm4883dhcp?05:37
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tafkaznope...05:59
tafkazstatic05:59
rhpot1991sorry guys I disapeared06:09
rhpot1991its gutsy, master backend + frontend system06:09
rhpot1991I made posts in the forum in someone else's thread:06:10
rhpot1991http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3536956#post353695606:10
rhpot1991I wish I didn't let it uninstall it :(06:11
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rhpot1991is there any easy way to make my 2nd backend record without the master backend being here?06:13
solarbabyIm killing myself with Lirc06:16
solarbabythis *IS* too difficult06:16
DaveMorrisrhpot1991: no the backend controls it all (Seems kinda like Tron)06:18
DaveMorrissolarbaby: whats the problem, someone here might be able to help you out06:18
DaveMorriseven if they aren't here now, they can read it when they come back to here06:19
solarbabyThe problem is..  Im not experienced enough to figure out whats missing and why its not working :)06:19
DaveMorrisare you following a guide?06:19
solarbabyabout 406:19
solarbabynone of them are quite right06:20
solarbabyI didn't compile it myself though.. so maybe thats where I went wrong.. as I understand it theres no need to compile but I could be wrong06:20
solarbabyI am running the newest version06:20
DaveMorrisyou tried following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Gutsy/Whats_next#head-4f90f24d45db6914dab6c83d3a5fa0286f7407a6 ?06:22
DaveMorrisrhpot1991: how did you upgrade?  apt-get dist-upgrade or apt-get upgrade?06:22
rhpot1991ran the distribution upgrade06:23
rhpot1991update-manager -d06:23
rhpot1991I seem to have the feisty weekly builds in my apt archives06:24
rhpot1991I'm trying to install them now06:24
solarbabyIm gunna have to punch my brother in the head for not learning linux and helping me like a big brother should06:26
rhpot1991whew06:27
rhpot1991got the backend back up06:27
DaveMorrisrhpot1991: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/source.list file please06:30
DaveMorris!pastebin06:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:30
rhpot1991sure06:30
MitoTranin|WorkDaveMorris: Just to note: he's not using mythbuntu, he is using standard feisty + mythtv upgraded to standard gutsy + mythtv06:30
DaveMorrissolarbaby: I suggest you hang around for laga, superm1 since they know alot more about lirc than myself06:31
rhpot1991http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40712/06:31
solarbabyDaveMorris: will do..  I dont think I'll suceed with out them06:31
DaveMorrisMitoTranin|Work: thanks, I kinda knew since he had done a sit upgrade :)06:31
DaveMorrisrhpot1991: I just tried a update-manager -d on my machine and it only wanted to upgrade 28 packages, can you see what a normal upgrade wants to upgrade?  Since when I upgraded my laptop it went fine06:34
rhpot1991says it is up to date06:35
DaveMorrisweired06:35
rhpot1991it went fine on my laptop a few days ago as awell06:35
rhpot1991I have been running apt and updating from time to time to see if its worked out06:35
rhpot1991I just dpkg'd in my old debs so my backend is at least running for now06:35
DaveMorrisI'll install feisty on a machine tomorrow then upgrade and see what happens, what mythtv packages have you got installed?06:36
rhpot1991its just a dependency issue it seems06:36
rhpot1991if you were to remove the packages then go to reinstall it would break, unless apt grabbed them from cache (not sure if it does that)06:37
rhpot1991currently 0.20.2+fixes14650-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_all.deb06:37
rhpot1991from the mythbuntu weekly builds06:37
rhpot1991last working packages before the upgrade06:37
MitoTranin|Workrhpot1991: did you do an apt-get update before you tried to upgrade?06:38
rhpot1991yep06:38
rhpot1991made sure it was up to date06:38
MitoTranin|Workthe only way it would use an old cache is if you didn't do that...06:38
rhpot1991on an unrelated problem Xvnc doesn't seem to work anymore either :(06:38
MitoTranin|Workmy vnc works fine06:39
MitoTranin|Workhave you considered using mythbuntu instead of standard gutsy?06:39
rhpot1991I had a heck of a time getting it to work yesterday and I suspect it is taking over x when I vnc in now, as Xvnc isn't being spawned06:39
MitoTranin|Workyou can try to install it if you want to without a reinstall via apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop06:39
rhpot1991I like to be able to vnc in and let the frontend still run on the tv06:39
rhpot1991I have the control centre installed now06:40
MitoTranin|Workthen you're wanting it to run the vnc as a separate console06:40
rhpot1991I used Xvnc and gdm to do that before, worked fine06:40
rhpot1991still works on another backend, but the exact same setup here doesn't spawn any Xvnc processes06:41
rhpot1991I saw people complaining about it not working in the forums, maybe it will get worked out06:41
MitoTranin|Workcheck the log, maybe something's broken itself during the update06:41
rhpot1991I didn't see anything that lead me to any problems06:42
rhpot1991aldo hard to test without having my frontend running06:42
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(superm1_/#ubuntu-mythtv) oh so you setup vnc as in on display :109:14
(superm1_/#ubuntu-mythtv) and such09:14
(rhpot1991/#ubuntu-mythtv) ya09:14
(rhpot1991/#ubuntu-mythtv) I have seen a few different ways to do it, I might have to try another as my current way isn't spawning any Xvnc processes, just jumping to the current display09:15
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rob-eim baack09:15
(rhpot1991/#ubuntu-mythtv) btw mytbuntu control centre is nice09:16
rhpot1991too bad it wasn't around when I first set up my boxes09:16
rob-ewhat do i have to do to watch youtube on mythtv?09:16
tazgodxhaha, rob-e ive been working on that myself09:16
rob-eo rly?09:16
rhpot1991someone was using fx to do that in here not too long ago09:17
tazgodxfx?09:17
rhpot1991and set up alt+F4 to be a remote button to exit09:17
rhpot1991firefox09:17
tazgodxoh, yeah. that was probably me09:17
superm1_you can spawn FF via mythbrowser actually09:17
tazgodxi set up mythtv to use firefox for my browser, and working on setting up the remote next09:17
superm1_perhaps then mapping the power button to send a SIGTERM to any firefox processes is a clean way to have it exit09:18
rob-edang, so mythtv sucks for youtube?09:18
rhpot1991superm1_ checkbox for daily database repairs, is that just a crontab?09:18
tazgodxrob-e: basically09:19
rob-edamnit, that was half the reason i installed it09:19
superm1_rob-e, well i think that trunk is introducing better support for mythbrowser though09:19
superm1_so for now, yeah it's not the ideal way to go09:19
superm1_personally i just keep all my tv internet browsing to the wii09:19
rob-e...rich09:20
rhpot1991they just updated wii internet, you can use a usb keyboard now09:21
rob-ewell now what?09:21
rob-eisnt there a way to use xbox media center for that?09:21
superm1_rhpot1991, yeah its so much nicer with usb keyboard support now.09:22
rhpot1991I heard there were python scripts to let xbmc connect to mythtv09:22
rob-eyeah i saw somewhere hot to use the xbox as the frontend09:22
rhpot1991I'd be tempted to try it if I didn't have 2 backends and no where to put another frontend09:22
superm1_rob-e, rhpot1991: yeah there are some xbmc scripts for connecting to mythtv, but there are some workarounds you need to use for them i think with the current version09:22
superm1_someone was in here the other day09:22
superm1_trying to get them going and having some trouble09:22
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rhpot1991I think they were having problems with mythtv in general09:23
rhpot1991not just that part of it09:23
superm1_rob-e: really using FF isn't that bad when its spawned out of mythbrowser though.  You just set it to go full screen using the fullscreen extension, and then if you have an easy way to quit with remote, it's usable09:23
superm1_rhpot1991: they were only having issues from their xbox09:23
rhpot1991ah ok09:23
superm1_i got them to boot a mythbuntu disk on another machine09:23
superm1_and connect remotely in live frontend mode09:24
superm1_with no issues09:24
rob-ebut still, i was expecting something like appletv09:24
rhpot1991I should try softmoding my xbox at some point, it hasn't been used in about a year now09:24
rob-ewhere u located <rhpot1991>?09:24
rhpot1991us.archive.ubuntu.com is nice and slow09:24
rhpot1991PA09:24
rob-eo, otherwise i would do it for ya09:25
rhpot1991is it hard?09:25
rob-eno09:25
rhpot1991I've seen (old) directions that required you to have certain games to do it09:25
rob-ejust buy splinter cell, and action replay09:25
rhpot1991where you exploited a buffer overlow then ftp'd in09:25
rob-eyeah09:25
rhpot1991is it worth it?09:26
rob-eyeah, totally, you can run emulators, it gives you access to the 4.something gig hard drive09:26
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rob-eplay backuped games09:26
rhpot1991I messed with making my wiimote work with my mythbox for emulators a while back09:27
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rhpot1991had it working but then I got bored and never went any further09:27
rob-eyeah, my plan was to have a wiimote as my mouse09:27
rhpot1991the c version of the driver actually let your use the classic controller dongle09:28
rhpot1991perl(or was it pyton) one didn't09:28
rhpot1991python that is09:28
rhpot1991this was as of a few months ago though, may have changed since then09:28
rob-ewell i gotta get some lunch thanks for the help09:28
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therethinker$hello10:02
mythbotWelcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.10:02
MitoTranin$poke therethinker10:02
mythbot/me stabs therethinker violently with a rusty spoon10:02
therethinker:D10:03
MitoTranintherethinker: pipes kill it10:03
MitoTranin$infect directhex|work10:03
therethinkerit doesn't KILL it10:03
MitoTranin#poke directhex|work10:03
therethinker$mcc10:03
mythbotMythbuntu Control Centre - a admin panel for MythTV - Created and maintained by the mythbuntu team. http://www.mythbuntu.org/about10:03
MitoTranin$poke directhex|work10:03
therethinkerthe reason why it doesn't work10:03
therethinkerSTOP10:03
MitoTraninwhen it happened earlier, it said |'s eye10:04
MitoTraninetc10:04
therethinkerthe reason why it won't work is because there's a halfworking feature10:04
therethinkerlike you know how ubotu can do10:04
therethinker!test | MitoTranin10:04
ubotuMitoTranin: Failed.10:04
MitoTraninI'm a failure!?!  :(10:04
therethinkerYeah10:05
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therethinkerAh ha! Mythbot reigns supreme to ubotu!10:22
therethinker$poke ubotu10:22
therethinkerOh wait, He's not there!10:23
pdragontherethinker: did you say there was a way to add stuff to mythbot?10:25
therethinkeryeah10:26
therethinkerBut it's a privilege ;-)10:26
pdragonahh ok :)10:26
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pdragonhttp://news.launchpad.net/general/of-bugs-and-statuses    thought that might be a useful link to add10:27
therethinker$poke ubotu10:27
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therethinker.seen laga11:18
therethinker$hello11:18
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therethinker.seen laga11:19
mythbotSorry, I haven't seen laga around.11:19
therethinker.seen therethinker11:19
mythbottherethinker: I last saw therethinker at 2007-10-15 21:19:01 UTC on #ubuntu-mythtv11:19
directhex.seen the light11:23
mythbotSorry, I haven't seen the around.11:23
directhexaw, nearly :(11:23
superm1_.seen superm1_11:32
mythbotSorry, I haven't seen superm1_ around.11:32
superm1_i'm right here!11:32
superm1_silly bot11:32
superm1_.seen superm111:32
mythbotSorry, I haven't seen superm1 around.11:32
foxbuntu.seen foxbuntu11:32
mythbotSorry, I haven't seen foxbuntu around.11:32
superm1_he's here too....11:32
foxbuntuhi mythbot11:32
mythbotHey foxbuntu.11:32
superm1_okay well therethinker i think your bot needs glasses11:32
foxbuntu.seen foxbuntu11:32
mythbotfoxbuntu: I last saw foxbuntu at 2007-10-15 21:32:50 UTC on #ubuntu-mythtv11:32
foxbuntusuperm1_, you have to ack the bot11:33
therethinkersuperm1_; what?11:33
superm1_i asked him if he saw me, and he said he didn't11:33
therethinkerOh11:33
superm1_.seen superm1_11:33
mythbotsuperm1_: I last saw superm1_ at 2007-10-15 21:33:31 UTC on #ubuntu-mythtv11:33
superm1_oh of course. now he does.11:33
superm1_i see how it is11:33
therethinkerI gave him contacts11:33
therethinker.seen superm111:33
mythbotSorry, I haven't seen superm1 around.11:33
therethinker.seen superm1_11:33
mythbottherethinker: I last saw superm1_ at 2007-10-15 21:33:48 UTC on #ubuntu-mythtv11:34
therethinkerhmm11:34
superm1_okay well i'm going.  cya guys.11:34
foxbuntulater11:34
tazgodxif i have multiple inputs how do i pick which input i want to watch?12:01
Tari_it's based on priority12:22
Tari_I'm not sure if you can manually select an input12:22
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MitoTraninanyone here use a network storage location to store your mythtv recordings?12:24
MitoTraninTari_: you have to be able to, so that you can watch the different inputs via LiveTV12:29
MitoTranintazgodx: I've never used multiple inputs before, but does it work like a standard tv/vcr where the inputs show up as a channel perhaps?12:30
MitoTranineither that, or there is probably a button/command to toggle through them...12:30
MitoTranintry the tv/vcr button on your remote to see if that will toggle through them12:30
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tazgodxi think mythbuntu needs a better LIRCRC for the Hauppauge_35001:03
superm1yeah someone should have reported that a lot sooner!01:16
superm1its too bad now :(01:16

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