[01:16] <jdong> #ubuntuforums done.
[01:23] <jdong> Pricey: I see an avatar in my head.... some sort of anime thing... man that's from like 2 years ago
[01:40] <Pricey> *head desks* at the new "4 more days" thread on the devel-discuss ML
[01:50] <Pricey> Hello Snuxoll?
[01:50] <Snuxoll> Hi Pricey
[01:50] <Pricey> How can I help?
[01:50] <Snuxoll> not really
[01:55] <Pici> Hes just mad because I banned him because he suggested that sysrq-b was an easter egg.
[01:56] <PriceChild> yeah he mentioned you'd banned him
[01:56] <Pici> Oh. He pm'ed you?
[01:56] <LjL> and a nice easter egg at that
[01:56] <Pici> Two people did it.  
[01:56] <LjL> Pici: only because only two people could find the SysRq key
[01:56] <PriceChild> He did indeedy.
[01:57] <Pici> LjL: he said alt-printscreen-b to be exact ;)
[01:57] <LjL> uhm well, that explains why someone did it at all
[01:57] <LjL> with the compiz craze, some people now know where printscreen is ;)
[02:01] <PriceChild> LjL, I'm watching and poised.
[02:03] <LjL> PriceChild: poised?
[02:05] <LjL> inviting holycow here.
[02:05] <LjL> check bantracker.
[02:08] <holycow> alright
[02:08] <holycow> someone unban me please for #kubuntu
[02:08] <holycow> i was banned without just cause i believe
[02:08] <LjL> holycow, perhaps the folks here would like to see our private query to follow the events better, mind if i post it?
[02:08] <holycow> sure i don't mind at all
[02:09] <LjL> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40665/
[02:09] <holycow> i really wouldn't mind if you banned me for the bad word that fine
[02:10] <holycow> it would still be unjust as others don't get banned for a slipup here or there
[02:10] <LjL> holycow: i really did. but, instead, i decided to just kick you and give you a chance to show you understood why you were so much wrong
[02:10] <holycow> but you banned me because i refuse to cow tow 
[02:10] <LjL> so basically, if i had banned you right away, you'd be ok with that... but instead i gave you a chance, you dissed it, and *that* is not ok.
[02:10] <holycow> i accepted the kick, i didn't say a word
[02:10] <LjL> that's the clue of what you're saying
[02:10] <holycow> no
[02:10] <LjL> yeah but being kicked doesn't mean it's up
[02:11] <holycow> its a clue that you guys just use the channels for personal gratification ...not all but its common
[02:11] <LjL> it can mean i want to discuss the behavior and make sure you understand you were wrong
[02:11] <LjL> you clearly didn't, so there's the ban
[02:11] <holycow> no, i refused to let yo ulecture me on my typing skills
[02:11] <holycow> this isn't kindergaden, and the channels aren't you rpersonal playground
[02:12] <holycow> you don't get the opportunity to twist every conversation where one must show respect to you as an op
[02:12] <holycow> its immoral
[02:12] <LjL> holycow: the !enter factoid is there in the bot, and part of our common policies. see !etiquette. if you don't like it because you feel it's "kindergarten", that's fine
[02:12] <LjL> go somewhere else
[02:12] <LjL> !etiquette
[02:12] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[02:12] <holycow> no why? just kick them like you normally do.  when they come back if they misbehave then ban them
[02:12] <holycow> it's always been that way
[02:12] <holycow> your just picking on someone that doesn't play your game
[02:12] <LjL> holycow: or perhaps it's you who expect to be able to behave any way you want and then to just get away with a kick that doesn't really mean anything
[02:12] <LjL> perhaps it's *your* reality that's skewed.
[02:13] <holycow> hardly
[02:13] <holycow> i swore accidentally i got kicked like everyone
[02:13] <holycow> fair enough
[02:13] <LjL> accidentally? wow.
[02:13] <LjL> someone gave you a useful factoid, and you insulted.
[02:13] <LjL> accidentally? wow.
[02:13] <holycow> it wasn't usefull
[02:13] <holycow> it was arrogant
[02:13] <LjL> no - you were.
[02:13] <LjL> very.
[02:13] <holycow> he saw the first part of my post and assumed i was a noob
[02:13] <holycow> no its not usefull
[02:13] <holycow> its arrogant
[02:13] <holycow> he didn't let me finish my question
[02:14] <LjL> using the bot (on people who pose simple questions like yours) isn't being arrogant.
[02:14] <holycow> i do the same thing my self on occasion as well, just like he did
[02:14] <holycow> it is being arrogant
[02:14] <LjL> if it is in your eyes, then find a channel where people don't find it such.
[02:14] <LjL> hello kerry
[02:14] <kerry> wat the heck
[02:14] <LjL> holycow: and you expect people to start cursing when you do? i hope not.
[02:14] <holycow> naw, it was accidental
[02:14] <LjL> kerry: anything we may do to you?
[02:14] <holycow> i've tried to curb it
[02:14] <kerry> how i get here
[02:14] <LjL> kerry: i think you are here
[02:15] <holycow> anyway, unban me, if you check  your logs, you know i haven't really particapated at all except asked a question or two and answered a few over the last few month
[02:15] <kerry> how i get here i jus restart my pc n conect to konversation i see it went hee
[02:15] <LjL> anyway holycow, i stand on my position. i think we should just let the other folks here give their opinion if they have one and they're awake.
[02:15] <holycow> i'm not really particapating in ubuntu help any more
[02:16] <LjL> kerry, "how do i get here" is not a reasonable question, because, quite obviously, you *are* here
[02:16] <holycow> however you cannot really expect me to like arrogance, or to play puppy dog to ops.  i'm honest and straight forward and fair
[02:16] <holycow> and you know it
[02:16] <LjL> holycow: and *you* cannot expect me to accept arrogance.
[02:16] <kerry> well if there's no reson im leaving
[02:16] <holycow> clearly, OTHERS arrogance is okay
[02:16] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[02:16] <jrib> kerry: one sec
[02:16] <holycow> what you really object to is me not playing puppy dog to you - thus you add it to your list
[02:17] <kerry> why?
[02:17] <jrib> kerry: so we can find out why you were forwarded here
[02:17] <kerry> q_p
[02:18] <LjL> holycow: look, i don't think i was arrogant, though i think you were. so we're running in circles here now, let's see what others have to say.
[02:18] <tsukasa> can i get tested
[02:18] <LjL> tsukasa: sure
[02:18] <kerry> _
[02:19] <kerry> ....
[02:19] <LjL> tsukasa: you seem ok, remember to always connect to port 8001 unless you can fix your firmware. one second and i'll let you join
[02:19] <kerry> i got other things to do
[02:19] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, ping
[02:19] <tsukasa> tyt
[02:19] <kerry> wat the
[02:20] <holycow> kerry: check the channels under file/serverlist
[02:20] <LjL> kerry, it's simple, you're banned.
[02:20] <LjL> now go away.
[02:20] <kerry> holycow: where do i go to check that?
[02:21] <LjL> ... under file/serverlist, he just said
[02:21] <holycow> file / server list
[02:21] <kerry> LjL: and im not banned i didnt do nothing
[02:21] <LjL> kerry: and i'm the king of madagascar
[02:21] <kerry> file/serverlist
[02:22] <jdong> LjL: Malagasy Republic.
[02:22] <LjL> jdong: i'm the king in exile.
[02:22] <jdong> LjL: ah, then we've spoken via e-mail last week. Anyway, hope my social security number and credit card information arrived safelty
[02:22] <kerry> i dont understand
[02:23] <jdong> kerry: I think you do understand.
[02:23] <LjL> jdong: you'll get that villa in no time
[02:23] <LjL> kerry: yet you understand how to change idents very well.
[02:23] <LjL> seriously, go away
[02:23] <LjL> you aren't fooling anybody
[02:24] <LjL> jdong: wolves have better grammar though i'm sure. sheep too
[02:24] <LjL> ok, cheap shot
[02:24] <kerry> LjL: if your talking about adenicio his not there i'm kerry he just install linux on my pc and im looking how to install drivers for my ati card
[02:24] <LjL> y.....es.
[02:24] <LjL> look, i can tell IP addresses and idents.
[02:25] <jdong> aww I wanted to hear his complete evil-twin excuse!
[02:25] <jrib> how do we know it is him?
[02:25] <jdong> jrib: IP and behavior
[02:25] <LjL> jrib: perhaps based on the fact that it's the same IP (not hostmask, *exact* IP) he had one minute ago
[02:25] <jdong> jrib: his mannerisms appear IDENTICAL to wii
[02:25] <jdong> randomly flooding with weird emoticons, etc
[02:25] <LjL> and yeah, his mixture of bad french with bad english also gives it away
[02:26] <jdong> claiming he has some sort of question when he seeks to be unbanned
[02:26] <jrib> ah I see the earlier join now
[02:26] <jdong> if he wants to take on a new identity that's not a troll, I honestly don't care.... but he's a pretty bad actor this time around
[02:28] <jdong> " if your talking about adenicio..."
[02:28] <jdong> interesting, now we have a name?
[02:28] <LjL> *shrug*
[02:28] <holycow> so any comments on my request for an unban?
[02:31] <LjL> honestly i'm not sure any op who was in #kubuntu is awake, but if anyone else wants to check the logs...
[02:32] <Seeker`> I'm not a #kubuntu op, but I feel that the kick was justified, and everything after that was just arguing
[02:32] <jdong> LjL: you were there, right? I just looked over that interchange with you and found the attitude displayed by holycow to be incompliant with our guidelines
[02:32] <holycow> lol
[02:32] <holycow> attitude?
[02:33] <holycow> you guys aren't there to police attitude
[02:33] <holycow> you guys are there to police language
[02:33] <holycow> you cannot seriously insist that you have the RIGHT to police what is in anyones head?
[02:33] <jdong> ok, then your language use was appalling
[02:33] <holycow> one word was appaling
[02:33] <holycow> i got kicked
[02:33] <holycow> i realized my mistake and didn't make a fus
[02:33] <holycow> fuss even
[02:33] <jdong> holycow: we insist that we have the RIGHT to police the attitude you display in an official channel
[02:34] <holycow> c'mon, look at the end of the day its irc and it doesn't matter but it matters to me on this level
[02:34] <holycow> you guys cannot possibly insist that you have the moral righ to police attitude?
 you guys aren't there to police attitude - Yes we are.
[02:34] <Seeker`> holycow: attitude isn't "what is going on in your head", it is how you act in the channel
[02:34] <holycow> that is so contrary to to freedom that i ... well i have levels of feeling on this
 you cannot seriously insist that you have the RIGHT to police what is in anyones head? - No. But We have the right to police what you convey in our channels.
[02:34] <holycow> what?
[02:35] <holycow> what insane thinking is this?
[02:35] <jdong> holycow: you do not have absolute freedom to do whatever you want in an official Ubuntu channel... that is true.
[02:35] <PriceChild> holycow, You are free to do whatever you want as long as it abides by the guidelines.
[02:35] <holycow> how does this forward freedom?
[02:35] <holycow> it abides by the rules
[02:35] <holycow> i swore one word
[02:35] <holycow> thats it
[02:35] <PriceChild> holycow, Should I be free to ban anyone?
[02:35] <holycow> i refused to however play puppy to ljl
[02:35] <PriceChild> holycow, no... and we have guidelines for operators which they must abide by also.
[02:35] <LjL> holycow: we are *definitely* here to check your attitude
[02:35] <LjL> !attitude
[02:35] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:35] <holycow> absolutely but not because you hate the person
[02:35] <holycow> wow
[02:35] <holycow> this is seriously not good guys
[02:36] <holycow> i would honestly, and you know me well enough to know why i'm saying this, modify that approach
[02:36] <PriceChild> holycow, have you read the link that ubotu just gave you?
[02:36] <holycow> this isn't 1942 nazi germany
[02:36] <jdong> holycow: refusing to comply with channel operators is not helping your cause
[02:36] <PriceChild> *head desks*
[02:36] <holycow> PriceChild: only for like the 40 times you guys post stuff like that at me
[02:36] <LjL> PriceChild: i think he has something against bots
[02:36] <holycow> jdong: noooo, there is a slight difference here
[02:36] <holycow> i swore
[02:36] <holycow> i got kicked
[02:36] <jdong> holycow: and I don't see what enforcing a basic level of respect in a channel can be compared to Nazi germany.
[02:36] <holycow> thats fair
[02:36] <holycow> i stopped
[02:36] <holycow> thats fair
[02:36] <jdong> holycow: it is not because you swore
[02:36] <holycow> RIGHT!
[02:37] <holycow> jdong: exactly
[02:37] <jdong> holycow: it is because of the way you responded to LjL's warning
[02:37] <PriceChild> *invokes godwin's law*
[02:37] <holycow> ljl insisted on talking to me about some nonsense
[02:37] <LjL> it's because you did not understand that the whole attitude was way off.
[02:37] <LjL> some nonsense - exactly
[02:37] <PriceChild> holycow, read the link ubotu gave you. Discussing it further at this time will not help you.
[02:37] <jdong> holycow: had you said "I'm sorry, it was inappropriate, I won't do it again", we wouldn't be here
[02:37] <holycow> i have no responsibility to acknowledge or like what he says just because he is an op
[02:37] <PriceChild> holycow, come back to me when you've read it.
[02:37] <LjL> i insisted on trying to make you understand why you were kicked (and going to be banned) in the first place
[02:37] <holycow> and i have a right to ask for him to stop
[02:37] <holycow> i said stop right now
[02:37] <LjL> you finding that "nonsense" *is* the problem
[02:37] <holycow> then i said you have no right to lecture me on my typing skills
[02:37] <LjL> no holycow you don't have a right to stop me from saying things
[02:38] <holycow> within STRICT rules that passes, but i simply showed the lack of willingness to roll over and play dead
[02:38] <holycow> no not at all
[02:38] <holycow> i have the right to ask
[02:38] <jdong> holycow: if you don't like the styles of Ubuntu's IRC channels, nothing dictates you must continue to come here.
[02:38] <holycow> you have the right to speak to me absolutely
[02:38] <PriceChild> holycow, read the link ubotu gave you. Discussing it further at this time will not help you.
[02:38] <PriceChild> holycow, come back to me when you've read it.
[02:38] <holycow> jdong: well freedom dictates that i should have a chance to try
[02:38] <holycow> and freedom is really what this is all about
[02:38] <PriceChild> see above
[02:39] <PriceChild> I will be happy to remove the mute as soon as you have read the guidelines we ask all users to abide by.
[02:39] <LjL> [02:39:16]  <holycow> lol
[02:39] <LjL> [02:39:22]  <holycow> you guys trully are idiots
[02:39] <LjL> [02:39:27]  <holycow> serve the permaban morons
[02:39] <LjL> i think we should abide
[02:40] <LjL> note that he joined #ubuntu as soon as i kicked him from #kubuntu :)
[02:46] <PriceChild> I think that . was a test to see if he could talk.
[02:47] <LjL> which he can, it's just that what he says is marked with a violet highlight :)
[02:47] <LjL> ehm, how come https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades has instructions in *chinese*?
[02:47] <Seeker`> LjL: what client do you use?
[02:48] <LjL> Seeker`: konversation
[02:50] <Pici> LjL: odd
[02:53] <LjL> #ubuntu-fr:
[02:53] <LjL> [02:51:42]  <Mii> LjL: u block the other pc from going on the ch.i only install linux for him to lurn how to use it ect he's using my conection.i told him to ask the ch how to install the drivers for his ati becaus i dont know how
[02:53] <LjL> [02:51:56]  <Mii> LjL: but i guess u dont care
[02:53] <LjL> [02:52:05]  <LjL> ?!
[02:53] <LjL> [02:52:25]  --> ptitgui has joined this channel (n=ptitgui@bro29-2-88-164-249-78.fbx.proxad.net).
[02:53] <LjL> [02:52:53]  <LjL> mii: crois tu que ce canal a quelque chose a voir avec ce que passe en #ubuntu?
[02:53] <LjL> [02:52:55]  <Mii> LjL: u block mii so i take his name i'm wii
[02:53] <LjL> [02:52:59]  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o McPeter
[02:53] <LjL> [02:53:00]  *** McPeter sets mode: +b %Mii!*@*
[02:57] <Mii>  u block the other pc from going on the ch.i only install linux for him to lurn how to use it ect he's using my conection.i told him to ask the ch how to install the drivers for his ati becaus i dont know how
[02:57] <Mii> LjL: 
[02:57] <Mii> i'm wii u block kerry
[02:58] <LjL> Mii: tell kerry to blame you, then.
[02:58] <LjL> you should think before behaving in a way that makes other people on the same connection as you end up banned.
[02:59] <rob> I was thinking the same thing nalioth
[02:59] <LjL> heh
[03:00] <nalioth> enough is enough
[03:00] <rob> I noticed he was ban-forwarded here though, so was waiting to see how it panned out
[03:00] <nalioth> ah, and now more fun in #freenode 
[03:00] <LjL> rob: he was forwarded because we've put a blanket ban on half of his ISP ;)
[03:00] <LjL> didn't feel like making that a *ban*
[03:00] <rob> yeah, that's what I noticed :)
[03:12] <stdin> wow, I step away for like an hour and miss world war 3! :p
[03:16] <LjL> stdin: nah, just much ado for nothing.
[03:18] <stdin> I do so love it when they complain that we only ban them for personal gratification, if that was the case I'd have banned holycow ages ago
[03:18] <Seeker`> i think that by that point, they are just trying to have fun by winding people up
[03:18] <LjL> heh indeed, irritating guy since the very first time i saw him
[03:20] <stdin> I've had to /ignore him in #kde a few times, just because of the seer number/frequency of the bad language highlights
[03:20] <stdin> my computer was beeping so much it sounded like a bomb waiting to go *BOOM*!!
[03:25] <jdong> nothing too suspicious so far, other than going on a random rant about PC's being crap
[03:26] <LjL> jdong: he's someone i don't like, and i think he's trolled in the past
[03:26] <jdong> hmm
[03:26] <Pici> arg.  I need to fix this.  'suspicious' keeps highlighting me.
[03:26] <LjL> Pici: terrible client :)
[03:26] <jdong> goatse mono novell pigsex wii mii kerry
[03:26] <jdong> any of those work?
[03:27] <Pici> LjL: nah, its a hilight I set myself.
[03:27] <LjL> Pici: you set "suspicious" as a highlight? i mean, really? i thought i was among the guys with the most gratuitous highlights, but you beat me by a distance
[03:27] <LjL> jdong: wha?
[03:28] <LjL> are those all aliases of wii?
[03:28] <Pici> LjL: no.  I set pici as a a hilight.  I just didnt use the right syntax and it keeps hilighting when its in the middle of a word.
[03:28] <LjL> Novell is online, but
[03:28] <jdong> LjL: lol no, I suspect they may be magic highlight-words of the ops :)
[03:28] <LjL> Pici: ah, uh, but clients usually have one's own nickname highlighted by default...?
[03:29] <LjL> jdong: uhm i have none of those to be honest :P
[03:29] <LjL> although, i don't even *really* know what i have on highlight
[03:29] <Seeker`> Pici: what client?
[03:29] <jdong> LjL: then I'm a bad guess :)
[03:29] <Pici> LjL: I've found its only for when the message is directed towards me, I like to know if someone is talking about me.
[03:29] <LjL> there should be a searchbox for highlights
[03:29] <Pici> Seeker`: irssi
[03:29] <LjL> Pici: weird, konversation just highlights me regardless of where "ljl" is said, as long as it's a single word
[03:30] <Seeker`> Pici: what is the hilight set as?
[03:30] <Pici> Seeker`: Pici
[03:32] <LjL> Pici: i don't know about irssi, but if you can use regular expressions, just make it [^[:alnum:] ] Pici[^[:alnum:] ] 
[03:32] <Seeker`> Pici: Did you use any of the mask/regex/full options?
[03:32] <Pici> Seeker`: none
[03:32] <jdong> Pici: should be /hilight -regexp
[03:32] <jdong> wrt. Ljl's expresion
[03:33] <Pici> Thanks everyone
[03:33] <jdong> auspiciously suspicious.
[03:33] <jdong> ha.
[03:34] <jdong> [jdong@blackbook:~] $ grep pici /usr/share/dict/words | wc -l      (10-14 21:34)
[03:34] <jdong> 16
[03:34] <jdong> :)
[03:34] <Pici> jdong: thanks for the tests, seems to have worked
[03:34] <LjL> my three letters nicknames is a full zero :P
[03:35] <jdong> wake me up when jdong is a word.
[03:35] <Seeker`> seeker, seeker's and seekers
[03:35] <jdong> well except when hobbsee randomly unleashes her factoids on me :D
[03:35] <Seeker`> gah, where did the evening go - I have to get up for lectures tomorrow :(
[03:36] <Pici> I have work tomorrow
[03:47] <jdong> was holycow only banned in #kubuntu?
[03:47] <LjL> jdong: yes
[03:47] <jdong> ok
[03:47] <LjL> i have him on highlight though, if he says something bad in #ubuntu, he's gone at once
[03:48] <LjL> not kicking and nice words this time for sure
[03:48] <LjL> good night now
[03:49] <jdong> night
[03:49] <jrib> night
[04:03] <mrguser> i've talked a little with the -fr ops anyway
[04:04] <mrguser> they've known wii for some time too
[04:05] <mrguser> and now i understand why he claims that english is his language
[04:06] <mrguser> Margot is some island where they speak english
[04:06] <mrguser> at least if i've understood the french guys right
[04:07] <mrguser> though they confirm that is french is as horrible as s english
[04:09] <mrguser> Err, "his" and "his"
[04:24] <LjL> Sigh... Two more meters bluetooth range, just two!
[04:32] <jdong> haha
[04:44] <jdong> how the hell, I just spent 2hrs+ randomyl answering questions in #*buntu
[04:46] <rob> easy done, time flies when you are having, umm, fun :)
[04:48] <jdong> ha. :)
[04:51] <jdong> wow, my roommate just had MS Office 2k3 deactivate itself on him when trying to print an 11-page paper due tomorrow
[04:51] <jdong> took me about 2 seconds to finally sell him on OpenOffice
[04:51] <jdong> next, I'll have to burst his bubble and tell him Vista has identical timebombs built in :)
[07:53] <draik> rob: Thank you for the clarification.
[07:53] <rob> draik, np
[07:53] <draik> I will complete the "manual" and get back to you about it.
[07:54] <rob> dam
[07:54] <rob> I was just about to reply..
[07:54] <rob> oh well
[08:18] <Tm_T> moin
[08:22] <Tm_T> wow
[09:07] <ubotu> nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:08] <rob> got it
[09:56] <Tm_T> hmmmh
[10:30] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !seamless is <reply> Seamless virtualiasation is a method to bring applications for Windows directly to your Ubuntu box! See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization for more information.
[10:47] <ubotu> soundray called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:50] <rob> looks like a troll
[10:55] <rob> oh looky, ban avoidance
[10:56] <Tm_T> I'm not!
[10:56] <Amaranth> rob: He wasn't banned
[10:57] <rob> he wasn't? oops, oh well ;)
[10:57] <rob> serves him right for trolling!
[10:57] <Tm_T> :p
[11:01] <Mez> I just removed him, seemed to keep him quiet
[11:01] <Tm_T> who where?
[11:01] <Mez> martin_ in #ubuntu
[11:01] <Tm_T> I see
[11:02] <Tm_T> I noticed he was bit ass
[11:03] <ubotu> In ubotu, arcticblue said: That is true, but is it not a release candidate?
[11:03] <Tm_T> =)
[11:08] <MenZa> Apparent troll in #ubuntu-offtopic; just a head-sup
 im investing in vista
[11:09] <rob> that one?
[11:10] <Amaranth> Him and pommer seem...off
[11:13] <Amaranth> Troll city
[11:15] <rob> but yes, there are several trolls, he (winchesterPAT) is trying to troll me in pm and failing
[11:16] <rob> he is now hitting ##windows too btw, so I can confirm at least one is a troll
[11:17] <rob> or, maybe he is just young/naive, I dunno
[11:18] <rob> hopefully school starts in whatever country just work up soon
[11:18] <rob> err woke
[11:18] <Tm_T> rob: mind to show what this winchester friend tries?
[11:19] <rob> paste alert
[11:19] <rob> winchesterPAT> i dont know anything about developing softwaree
 that's okay, you can get involved and learn, just being helpful on channels like #ubuntu is a good start
 i dont trust linus
 he hacks pepoles lifes
 ok, if you say so. People are free to do what they want.
 no theyr not
 sure they are, within reason usually defined by social norms and laws.
 they are free to hack people ?
 go hack micros**t
 why? Not only is that illegal, but I have nothing to gain by doing so.
[11:19] <rob> note that I sanitised that
[11:20] <Amaranth> martin_: This is where the ops are, what do you need?
[11:20] <ikonia> how interesting
[11:21] <ubotu> IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:21] <rob> apparently someone should whack me now, as in end my life..
[11:22] <Tm_T> rob: *hug*
[11:22] <martin_> Amaranth I dont need anything ,, I just wouldnt know how to better or develop linux distributions 
[11:23] <Amaranth> martin_: Then this is the wrong place
[11:23] <ikonia> martin_: there are tons of channels and projects to work that through on, what point are you at 
[11:24] <martin_> Amaranth .. But how do I post bugs or improvement ideas to ubuntu? launchapad is confusing
[11:24] <Amaranth> martin_: Launchpad is the way
[11:24] <ikonia> martin_: there is a guide on launchpad itsself on using launchpad
[11:24] <martin_> k, I go read then
[11:24] <Tm_T> ok Holycow in #ubuntu
[11:28] <MenZa> rob: Yes, him, but that wasn't it :P
[11:28] <rob> now, for some reason he is talking about kiddy porn..
[11:28] <MenZa> I was thinking more of [2007-15-10 10:44:01 CEST]  < winchesterPAT> kiss my ass
[11:28] <MenZa> (Immediately after joining)
[11:28] <Tm_T> =)
[11:29] <rob> if this conversation degrades anymore, I'm going to terminate his connection
[11:29] <MenZa> Also, I was wondering if I could have the ops 'grace', if you will, to stay here? I've read the IrcCouncil mailing list lately, and I don't want to risk banning.
[11:29] <Tm_T> ?
[11:30] <Tm_T> grace?
[11:30] <Tm_T> aaaa
[11:30] <MenZa> Yes. Permission, if you will.
[11:30] <Tm_T> now I realised
[11:30] <Tm_T> well I have nothing against it
[11:30] <MenZa> Good, good
[11:30] <MenZa> I assume you read Hobbsee's e-mail to the mailing list?
[11:30] <Amaranth> MenZa: You're allowed if we know who you are
[11:30] <MenZa> Yes.
[11:31] <Tm_T> known and known to be "tolerated" =)
[11:31] <MenZa> Exactly. :)
[11:31] <Tm_T> MenZa: are you? really?!
[11:32] <Tm_T> <3<3<3 Yes - And You And I <3<3<3
[11:32] <MenZa> :D
[11:35] <Tm_T> martin_: got snow already?
[11:36] <MenZa> I wish we had snow.
[11:37] <Tm_T> heh
[11:38] <Tm_T> its not fun when it covers everything with 1 meter thick wall
[11:38] <MenZa> lies
[11:38] <MenZa> no school \o/
[11:38] <Tm_T> er
[11:38] <Tm_T> school?
[11:38] <Tm_T> oh right, that kids stuff ;-P
[11:40] <Tm_T> we almost have snow here
[11:40] <Tm_T> it's freezing by night but just few degrees over zero by days
[11:41] <jussi01> Tm_T: we had snow up here in oulu on friday
[11:41] <Tm_T> jussi01: heh, we had it too slightly, but its gone now
[11:41] <MenZa> Tm_T: Where do you live?
[11:41] <Tm_T> Eastern Finland
[11:41] <jussi01> Tm_T: yeah... I hope it holds off for a while..
[11:41] <MenZa> Ah
[11:41] <MenZa> Denmark here.
[11:42] <MenZa> No snow till late November :(
[11:42] <MenZa> If we're lucky.
[11:42] <Tm_T> MenZa: "Siberia of Finland" =)
[11:42] <MenZa> lol
[11:48] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, pkern said: ubotu: LP is Launchpad (http://launchpad.net)
[11:50] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, Fujitsu said: !launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:51] <Amaranth> I already handled lp
[11:51] <Tm_T> muh
[11:51] <Amaranth> !launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:51] <ubotu> But launchpad already means something else!
[11:51] <Amaranth> !no, launchpad is <reply> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:51] <ubotu> I'll remember that Amaranth
[11:51] <Amaranth> !lp
[11:51] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:51] <Tm_T> Amaranth: like to handle me too? ;)
[11:51] <Fujitsu> Thanks Amaranth.
[11:52] <Tm_T> Fujitsu: youre welcome
[11:53] <MenZa> :)
[11:59] <ubotu> soundray called the ops in #ubuntu
[12:00] <Tm_T> aww
[12:01] <Tm_T> !away | Mez 
[12:01] <ubotu> Mez: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[12:01] <Tm_T> ;--P
[12:44] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu
[01:36] <Tm_T> mooh
[01:49] <Gary> sorry for the join/parts, client broke
[01:51] <Tm_T> haha
[02:06] <Gary> it's a pony windows client, meh
[02:06] <Pici> @pony?
[02:07] <Gary> I cannot get silverex's xchat client running with python right
[02:07] <MenZa> Windows. :<
[02:07] <Gary> well I am at work
[02:08] <Pici> I just ssh into my home computer using putty, ssh/screen/irssi  :D
[02:08] <Gary> I might start doing that
[02:08] <Gary> but I do like Sevea's chanserv.py script
[02:11] <Myrtti> I wanna pony
[02:11] <Gary> me too, then I can have yummy steaks for at least a week
[02:11] <Tm_T> Myrtti: can I be your pony?
[02:11] <Myrtti> you're too far away
[02:12] <Tm_T> hmh
[02:12] <Tm_T> not on saturday
[02:12] <Pici> Mister will you please help my pony.
[02:12] <Myrtti> besides these days applicants are crowding my irssi with their queries
[02:12] <Myrtti> I wonder why
[02:12] <Myrtti> >-)
[02:12] <Tm_T> haha
[02:13] <Myrtti> Apparently I'm even more invisible pink unicorn than before
[02:13] <Gary> woo Seeker` you have voice :p
[02:13] <Myrtti> not only am I a female with some linux knowhow
[02:13] <Seeker`> Gary: yup :) Tis much better than being banned :P
[02:13] <Pici> Myrtti: applicants?
[02:13] <Myrtti> I'm SINGLE! which, I suppose, is totally unexceptable
[02:14] <Myrtti> Pici: to be my pony
[02:14] <Pici> Myrtti: Ooh. :D
[02:14] <Myrtti> ;-)
[02:14] <Tm_T> haha
[02:15] <Myrtti> I what kind of colts would a pink invisible unicorn and an icelandic pony have
[02:15] <Tm_T> mooh
[02:15] <Myrtti> camocapabilities would without a doubt be marvelous
[02:15] <pleia2> so cute ones
[02:15] <Tm_T> wait, pony doesnt say mooh?
[02:16] <pleia2> I'd rather have a llama though
[02:16] <Myrtti> or an alpaca
[02:16] <Myrtti> the wool... :-P~~~~~
[02:16] <Pici> pushmepullyou?
[02:16] <pleia2> alpacas are smaller, so would make more sense for my smallish property
[02:16] <Tm_T> moooh
[02:17] <Myrtti> Tm_T: don't be, join Facebo... ;-)
[02:17] <Myrtti> *krrhrhhr*
[02:17] <Tm_T> hah
[02:17] <Tm_T> Myrtti: how that would help?
[02:17] <Myrtti> I could pet your panda :->
[02:18] <Myrtti> oh wait, I haven't done that yet today for my own either
[02:18] <Pici> ohmy
[02:18] <Tm_T> Myrtti: er, you lost me
[02:19] <Myrtti> they've got this application that you can take care of a pet of your choice :-D
[02:19] <Pici> Oh.  I thought it was a euphemism. <.<
[02:19] <Myrtti> when you feed them, they get faster and get better results in races (and you can gamble on the results)
[02:19] <Tm_T> er?!
[02:19] <Myrtti> Pici: you sick animal you
[02:20] <Myrtti> Tm_T: a tamagotchi, if you will
[02:20] <Tm_T> Myrtti: ok, not my piece of cake or so
[02:39] <Pici> He was here earlier.
[02:41] <Pici> jussi01: do you have ops in #ubuntu ?
[02:41] <jussi01> Pici: no
[02:41] <LjL> jussi01: don't bother then, you can't make them rejoin anyway
[02:41] <Pici> jussi01: Then there really isnt a point, is there?
[02:41] <jussi01> OK. :) I didnt realise ops for #ubuntu was needed :)
[02:41] <LjL> jussi01: well, for #ubuntu or whatever channel they were redirected from
[02:41] <Pici> jussi01: well, you test them, and if they pass, you unban them from #ubuntu
[03:28] <BugMaN> hi Seveas, could you please tell freenode to add my ubuntu/member cloak? my LP profile is https://launchpad.net/~bugman
[03:36] <Tm_T> hih
[03:49] <PriceChild> *wonders where his cheque book is*
[03:58] <jdong> *giggles at british spelling*
[04:09] <Tm_T> PriceChild: !!
[05:28] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: pong
[05:35] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, was someone caught by the ban a very long time ago :P
[05:35] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, was wii in disguise though it turned out
[05:35] <PriceChild> Tm_T, hmm?
[05:35] <PriceChild> jdong, shh
[05:35] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:35] <gnomefreak> is the ban that we set working?
[05:36] <PriceChild> I assume so
[05:37] <Pici> I removed the duplicate matching mask out of offtopic, since we've been running out of banlist space lately.
[05:37] <PriceChild> Pici, time to clean a few more bans?
[05:37] <Pici> PriceChild: Is it okay to go through stuff that I didnt set?  
[05:38] <nalioth> Pici: if you are "running out of banspace", pruning the list is not verboten
[05:39] <Pici> Then a-pruning I shall go
[05:40] <gnomefreak> it seems to have grabbed him on 3 nicks wii mii and kerry ;)
[05:40] <PriceChild> I'd leave all the stuff set before the netsplit :/
[05:41] <PriceChild> jul 12 on my screen
[05:42] <nalioth> gnomefreak: PriceChild: others: if you see wii/mii/whoever, please poke the staff (he's been doing this long enough and is now evading klines)
[05:42] <PriceChild> k
[05:42] <gnomefreak> nalioth: will do
[05:47] <nalioth> well, if the ban works, don't bother us  :P
[05:48] <gnomefreak> nalioth: so far but we have it forwarded here
[05:48] <gnomefreak> just incase it catches someone other than him
[05:49] <gnomefreak> but i doubt it will
[05:49] <Pici> If it does, can we tell that person to knock some sense into Wii?
[05:49] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:50] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: What did you set for the ban?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> would love a kline for what we set :)
[05:50] <Amaranth> All of wanadoo?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> sort of
[05:50] <gnomefreak> ill get it
[05:51] <jdong> haha
[05:51] <gnomefreak> [+b *!*@AMarigot-102-1*!#ubuntu-ops] 
[05:51] <jdong> that's not bad...
[05:51] <gnomefreak> it has caught only him and 3 times it seems
[05:53] <Tm_T> PriceChild: hi
[05:53] <PriceChild> Meed anything?
[05:53] <PriceChild> *Need
[05:54] <gnomefreak> yeah a big strong drink (jim and coke will do)
[05:56] <jussi01> PriceChild: yeah... the list is endles... :P
[06:03] <nalioth> anyone want to field a gutsy question? (same one i asked last week)
[06:04] <mc44> eat more roughage
[06:04] <mc44> not that kind of guts?
[06:04] <Pici> noobuntu: Can we help you?
[06:04] <Seeker`> nalioth: what was the question?
[06:04] <noobuntu> Pici, with what
[06:05] <Pici> noobuntu: Well, you appear to be in #ubuntu-ops, most people don't come here unless they have an issue.
[06:06] <nalioth> every time i start my gutsy laptop. udevd is at the top of the cpu usage meter
[06:06] <nalioth> i kill it and restart it, it behaves normally
[06:07] <mc44> have you updated recently? I thought that bug was fixed
[06:07] <Tm_T> nalioth: I have seen that issue, just cant remember what it is
[06:07] <nalioth> mc44: i update daily
[06:09] <noobuntu> Pici, no issue
[06:09] <nalioth> noobuntu: is there something we can help you with?
[06:09] <philip> Hello there....I want to be tested
[06:09] <noobuntu> nalioth, i dont know. is there?
[06:10] <mc44> nalioth: do you use evms?
[06:10] <jussi01> nalioth: are you using one of the main mirrors? some mirrors are 1 week behind...
[06:10] <nalioth> noobuntu: if you don't have a reason to be here, we can help you out
[06:10] <nalioth> jussi01: am using archive.ubuntu.blah
[06:10] <nalioth> mc44: have no clue
[06:10] <noobuntu> nalioth, interesting. you can help me without a reason
[06:10] <gnomefreak> noobuntu: read the topic
[06:10] <nalioth> noobuntu: we discourage random idlers
[06:11] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[06:11] <philip> guys can you 'poke' me, I "need" to be tested.....
[06:11] <nalioth> philip: buckle your seat belt
[06:11] <mc44> nalioth: apt-cache policy evms --> does it show it's installed?
[06:11] <noobuntu> nalioth, gnomefreak okay, i have a question for you since you want to help me with something
[06:11] <nalioth> mc44: it's not running atm
[06:11] <philip> I'm ready..........
[06:12] <gnomefreak> nalioth: :( 
[06:12] <Amaranth> guys, i'm sad
[06:12] <Amaranth> my roommate at UDS is an automatix guy
[06:12] <noobuntu> what is the purpose of these instructions? how do they improve sound in gnome? ubuntuforums.org
[06:12] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: oh crap :(
[06:12] <Amaranth> I think they did it on purpose
[06:12] <Tm_T> Amaranth: ouch!
[06:12] <Amaranth> And he is in Omaha, NE same as me
[06:12] <mc44> nalioth: it might be bug 115616
[06:12] <nalioth> philip: you're good, you an join #ubuntu now and thanks for your patience  :)
[06:12] <noobuntu> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[06:12] <Amaranth> if I kill him now I won't have to mess up my hotel room
[06:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115616 in update-manager "Device-mapper errors: dm-linear, lookup failed" [Critical,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115616
[06:12] <noobuntu> i pasted the wrong url the first time
[06:12] <nalioth> noobuntu: supprt is in #ubuntu 
[06:13] <nalioth> noobuntu: or #ubuntuforums
[06:13] <Pici> #ubuntuforums isn't a support channel, they'll push him to #ubuntu
[06:13] <noobuntu> nalioth, okay, but you asked me if i need any help
[06:13] <philip> thanx
[06:13] <mc44> nalioth: in which case remove evms
[06:13] <nalioth> noobuntu: this is an administration channel
[06:13] <Tm_T> =)
[06:13] <Pici> nalioth: check the tracker, that mask is in there quite a few times fyi.
[06:13] <noobuntu> nalioth, what's the purpose of telling me of a channel that you know im banned from?
[06:15] <nalioth> what is evms, anyway?
[06:15] <Amaranth> !info evms
[06:15] <ubotu> evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.5-18ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 85 kB, installed size 320 kB
[06:16] <Amaranth> nalioth: it says enterprise, that's all you need to know :P
[06:16] <Tm_T> =)
[06:16] <Tm_T> Amaranth: how it can be enterprise when its not java?
[06:16] <Pici> Amaranth: Or XML
[06:16] <nalioth> ah
[06:17] <jdong> it's the LVM/fancy-partition-management overlord of doom :)
[06:18] <Amaranth> Seriously though, this is going to _suck_
[06:18] <Amaranth> I'm just not going to be in my room unless I'm sleeping
[06:18] <Amaranth> and I'll sleep with one eye open
[06:19] <nalioth> Amaranth: well, you no longer have to preach EU superiority, but instead ask him why he's affiliated with "the extra coat of paint" 
[06:19] <Amaranth> nalioth: I was never happy with EU anyway :P
[06:19] <Amaranth> nalioth: I was only doing stuff there because I didn't want it to suck
[06:19] <gnomefreak> what happened with EU?
[06:19] <gnomefreak> i havent heard about it in a while
[06:20] <Amaranth> It was completely replaced with gnome-app-install and automatic codec installation
[06:20] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[06:20] <Amaranth> Well, basically for feisty it would have been an 'install flash' button
[06:20] <mc44> Amaranth: you could smother him with a pillow. No one will ever know!
[06:20] <nalioth> gnomefreak: it is no longer needed.
[06:20] <Amaranth> mc44: I was thinking a push out the window
[06:31] <jdong> !-ntfs
[06:31] <ubotu> ntfs aliases: windowsdrives, nfts - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 00:07:26
[06:31] <jdong> !ntfs
[06:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:31] <jdong> that factoid is a bit confusing in the globbing of Mac partitions
[06:31] <jdong> neither ntfs-3g nor fuse helps for writing to journaled HFS+ filesystems
[06:32] <jdong> "For NTFS write access" would be clearer
[06:33] <nalioth> so clear it
[06:33] <jdong> how do I do that? re-submit the factoid?
[06:34] <jussi01> jdong: !no, ntfs-3g is <reply> blah IIRC
[06:34] <nalioth> if you like, or poke someone with ubotu write access (no ntfs-3g required)
[06:34] <jussi01> hehe
[06:34] <jdong> !no, ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:34] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, jdong said: !no, ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <jdong> grr
[06:35] <jdong> stupid paste
[06:35] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:35] <gnomefreak> hold on is that what you want it to say?
[06:35] <jdong> !no, ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, jdong said: !no, ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <jdong> that
[06:35] <gnomefreak> ok give me a sec
[06:35] <jdong> just to clarify what "write access" we're referring to
[06:35] <gnomefreak> !no, ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <ubotu> I'll remember that gnomefreak
[06:35] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[06:35] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <jdong> thanks gnomefreak :)
[06:36] <gnomefreak> anytime
[06:36] <nalioth> EEEK! BOTSPAM
[06:37] <gnomefreak> jdong: once i remember how to add editors if you want ill add you
[06:37] <jdong> sorry nalioth, I'm an idiot
[06:38] <jdong> gnomefreak: meh I don't mind either way :)
[06:38] <gnomefreak> could have done it in pm but than i wouldnt get pm from other bot telling me his not smart (thats the fun of it)
[06:39] <jdong> in retrospect that would've been smarter
[06:40] <nalioth> gnomefreak: the other bots in here have nice cups of STFU
[06:40] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:41] <gnomefreak> brb reboot
[09:20] <PriceChild> #ubuntu's getting a bit large...
[09:20] <Pici> Yep, its already swelling.
[09:21] <jdong> insert another innuendo here
[09:22] <mc44> jdong: wait for it's size on release!
[09:22] <mc44> *its
[09:22] <mc44> :P
[09:24] <jdong> mc44: tehn it'll return to its normal size
[09:24] <jdong> mc44: and cannot release again for a decent period of time
[09:28] <jussi01> hmmm, this is a good question : [21:22]  <Moniker42> any idea what the largest number of users in #ubuntu has been? 
[09:28] <jussi01> anyone?
[09:28] <jussi01> Im curious also...
[09:29] <mc44> it was on feisty release day
[09:29] <mc44> can't remember how many exactly, maybe 1600
[09:29] <jussi01> is there somewhere wit the stats?
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> mc44: I think it was more like 1300
[09:32] <nalioth> jdong: there'll be at least 1500 folks there
[09:32] <mc44> tonyyarusso: nah, higher than that
[09:32] <nalioth> the crowd swells with each release
[09:32] <jussi01> there is ~1300 now...
[09:32] <mc44> tonyyarusso: it went past 1337 quite early iirc :)
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> haha
[09:35] <Pici> hm.  My irc stats program doesnt grab number of users.
[09:37] <nalioth> Pici: usercount.pl
[09:37] <Seeker`> I'm pretty sure it was around 1600 for feisty
[09:38] <Seeker`> 1297 atm in #ubuntu
[09:38] <gnomefreak> it was ~1600 for feisty release
[09:39] <Seeker`> just hit 1300 in ubuntu
[09:39] <Mez> w00t
[09:39] <Mez> we need 37 more
[09:40] <Seeker`> just get a load of bots
[09:40] <jussi01> LOL
[09:40] <jdong> for i in range(37): system("irssi &") ?
 we need 37 more people in #ubuntu to make it 1337 users ;0
 hehe
 I have a screenshot of it at 1337!
[09:40] <Dave2> indeed
[09:41] <Mez> ah didnt see you in here
[09:41] <Dave2> I have no idea where the screenshot is. But it's somewhere.
[09:43] <jdong> PriceChild: I have to relocate to another classroom right now, but can you loo kin teh bantracker for NoelCower/Noel/Cower's ban in #ubuntuforums for suggesting a rm -rf?
[09:43] <jdong> totally forgot to lift it.
[09:46] <jdong> PriceChild: got it, nvm
[09:53] <PriceChild> sorry was away
[10:03] <jdong> no worries
[10:06] <jdong> bleh
[10:07] <jdong> stupid irssi hanging
[10:10] <jayt> PriceChild, there is a pm there for you .. 
[10:14] <Seveas> !ping
[10:14] <Mez> !pong
[10:14] <Seveas> neh, ubotu has a proble
[10:14] <Seveas> m
[10:15] <Seveas> @quit
[10:48] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[10:48] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[10:48] <gnomefreak> !btlogin
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about btlogin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <jdong> haha
[10:48] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrr
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Seveas: your bot is down?
[10:48] <Seveas> not anymore
[10:48] <Seveas> !ping
[10:48] <ubotu> pong
[10:48] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[10:48] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[10:48] <gnomefreak> still
[10:49] <gnomefreak> %whoami
[10:49] <ubotu> gnomefreak
[10:49] <gnomefreak> did the command change?
[10:49] <Seveas> hmm
[10:49] <Seveas> no, it's just broken
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ah ok does someone have the link i so i can comment
[10:50] <Seveas> try again
[10:50] <Seveas> you need to login :)
[10:50] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[10:50] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[10:50] <gnomefreak> yeah well i tried that ;)
[10:50] <ompaul> Python 2.4.3: /usr/bin/python
[10:50] <ompaul> Mon Oct 15 22:52:07 2007
[10:50] <ompaul> more errorz
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ill wait he may make it in here anyway
[10:50] <Seveas> grmbl
[10:50] <ompaul> OperationalError: database is locked
[10:50] <Seveas> @reload Bantracker
[10:50] <ompaul>       args = ('database is locked',)
[10:51] <ompaul> Seveas, that may point in the right direction
[10:51] <Seveas> I know
[10:51] <Seveas> already seen the error
[10:51] <gnomefreak> i never get good output from bot
[10:51] <gnomefreak> :(
[10:51] <ompaul> keweo
[10:51] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ompaul grabbed it from the bantracker
[10:51] <Seveas> I saw it in the debug log
[10:51] <Seveas> so we are both cheating
[10:51] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:51] <Seveas> try now, bantracker works
[10:52] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ha
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ty
[10:52] <ompaul> Seveas, it does
[10:52] <ompaul> but it is missing the last couple of hours
[10:52] <ompaul> the but can be dropped()
[10:53] <Seveas> too bad
[10:53] <ompaul> yeap :)
[10:53] <Seveas> had to delete the journal
[10:53] <ompaul> ahh 
[10:53] <Seveas> server got a hard reboot
[10:53] <ompaul> nasty
[10:53] <Seeker`> thats bad
[10:54] <Pici> Is the tracker still running on a sqlite database?
[10:55] <Pici> s/still//
[10:55] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[10:55] <gnomefreak> i guess it was down when i banned him
[10:56] <ompaul> gnomefreak, your own logs
[10:56] <gnomefreak> i have my own logs but commenting on my logs is a bit harder
[10:56] <ompaul> there is that ;-)
[10:57] <gnomefreak> i wish he would find something better to do than pm me
[10:58] <Pici> gnomefreak: unban and reban him, then comment
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:58] <gnomefreak> good idea
[11:00] <gnomefreak> Pici: thanks that did it
[11:23] <ompaul> ikonia, how you doin?
[11:26] <ikonia> hey ompaul doing ok. Exausted but fine
[11:26] <ikonia> been a long old day
[11:26] <ikonia> then I've come home to reasonable ammount of house work 
[11:26] <ompaul> ahh
[11:26] <ikonia> how about you
[11:26] <ikonia> still full of beans
[11:26] <ompaul> good 
[11:27] <ompaul> na its late
[11:27] <ompaul> that is the only reason
[11:27] <ompaul> I got out of bed at 7am 
[11:27] <ikonia> ok, so still got some drive
[11:29] <ikonia> jump on a flight if you want/can, I'm having a birthday part on Wednesday, and a geek version on Thursday 
[11:29] <ompaul> heh, I got my whole week booked up already :)
[11:29] <ikonia> its a last minute thing, 
[11:30] <ompaul> and can't other than that - not enough notice to work and got 3 desktops and one server to work on for fun
[11:30] <ikonia> I suspected as much
[11:30] <ikonia> but it never hurts to ask 
[11:30] <ikonia> normally better planning, but last minute thing this year
[11:31] <ompaul> hehe
[12:13] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[12:13] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm seems slow
[12:15] <gnomefreak> mc44: are you only op in -offtopic?
[12:17] <mc44> gnomefreak: not anywhere :)
[12:19] <gnomefreak> oh thought you were op in -offtopic :(
[12:19] <nalioth> if you are not an op, why are you here ?  0_o
[12:19] <gnomefreak> btw ban tracker thinks you are as well
[12:20] <gnomefreak> atleast i thought you were the banner/kicker
[12:20] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[12:21] <mc44> gnomefreak: occasionally people are silly and get chanserv to op people
[12:21] <mc44> nalioth: because it's useful if you're helping out in #ubuntu etc?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> oh ompaul kicked you
[12:21] <gnomefreak> 2 times
[12:21] <gnomefreak> 3 times
[12:21] <gnomefreak> holy crap what were you doing
[12:22] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: How many times has Gary / Gazzak been kicked?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> dont know dont see him on this first page
[12:22] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: I would be surprised if it were still in 2 figures
[12:26] <Pici> mc44 has been kicked at least 10 times
[12:26] <Pici> hes a bad boy.
[12:27] <mc44> Pici: more like 100
[12:28] <nalioth> mc44: your logic is faulty. 
[12:28] <mc44> nalioth: which logic?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> coreymon77: is there something we can do for you?
[12:32] <mneptok> *suspects
[12:33] <Pici> murgi can probably be removed, hes an 83.230 that was looking for -es.
[12:33] <nalioth> mc44: there are dozens of other active helpful folks in #ubuntu and #kubuntu etc who do not feel it necessary to idle in here   << logic
[12:33] <mc44> nalioth: I happen to have a different opinion
[12:34] <mc44> It wasn't logic, it was a statement of why I was in here
[12:34] <Pici> My opinion is that we should leave it as it is right now and bring up the issue at the next IRC Council meeting, when all the Council members are present.
[12:52] <gnomefreak> mc44: hes having fun in pm
[12:52] <mc44> gnomefreak: because we're racist? :)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> mc44: yeah 
[12:53] <gnomefreak> hes telling me hes gonna dodge the ban
[12:53] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:54] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, where's this frm?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> +1 now in pm
[12:54] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: he was using slang for black people iirc than called us rasist
[12:55] <gnomefreak> now hes telling me hes gonna dodge
[12:55] <gnomefreak> 18:54 <nzero> new ip and no problems getting in
[12:55] <gnomefreak> thers more :)
[12:55] <PriceChild> what channel?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> its in pm right now
[12:55] <PriceChild> what channel did this start?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> he was banned from +1
[12:56] <Pici> Can someone check the links in -offtopic, I'm only on a shell
[12:56] <PriceChild> wierd... :/
[12:56] <PriceChild> they forwarded to google for me anyway it seemed
[12:56] <gnomefreak> the usage links?
[12:56] <Pici> ty Seveas.
[12:57] <PriceChild> still.... nasty person
[12:57] <Seveas> all google, but calling it goatse makes me itchy
[12:57] <Pici> Okay.
[12:57] <PriceChild> indeed
[12:57] <PriceChild> he was asking about goatse and tubgirl earlier
[12:57] <Seveas> good riddance
[12:57] <nalioth> Pici: screen is your friend
[12:57] <Seveas> is now complaining in #freenode
[12:58] <nalioth> Pici: irssi in one screen, links2 in another, etc
[12:58] <gnomefreak> please tell me the one you just banned
[12:58] <Seveas> Soskel
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[12:58] <PriceChild> incoming
[12:58] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: ;)
[12:58] <Soskel> Seveas banned me for linking to google 
[12:58] <Soskel> http://000-137.info/              http://0513.info/              http://0757fs.com/ 
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Soskel: and?
[12:59] <Seveas> no, I banned you for announcing links to goatse
[12:59] <Soskel> abusing powers
[12:59] <Seveas> standard troll excuse :)
[12:59] <Soskel> Seveas: they weren't links to goatse 
[12:59] <Seveas> have fun gnomefreak 
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Seeker`: ty :)
[12:59] <Seveas> mine is right here, makes it easy
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ty
[12:59] <gnomefreak> mine wont join
[12:59] <Seveas> invite?
[01:00] <PriceChild> Soskel, you were intentionally trying to stir the channel up. I am very sure you are aware that goatse and tubgirl are not accepted discussion topics.
[01:00] <Soskel> PriceChild: I know..... but I didn't post links to either 
[01:00] <PriceChild> Soskel, that is irrelevant.
[01:00] <Soskel> I am also shocked to see oprs acting so immaturely 
[01:01] <nzero> me too
[01:01] <PriceChild> Soskel, I think that's enough discussion then. The ban will not be lifted at this time.
[01:01] <PriceChild> nzero, can I help you?
[01:01] <mc44> PriceChild: thats gnomefreak's :)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> nzero: welcome
[01:01] <PriceChild> mc44, I know :)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> nzero: did you bring the logs?
[01:01] <nzero> ?
[01:01] <nzero> what logs
[01:02] <Pici> mc44: he likes asking that question
[01:02] <gnomefreak> nzero: i told you in p, bring the log if you think this ban was unfaur
[01:02] <Seveas> nzero, if you want to protest against something an op dit, you must bring logs
[01:02] <gnomefreak> unfair. if you like i can post it here
 are you able to have a civilized conversation in PM?
 hmmmm
 http://www.kaarsemaker.net/contact/
 nice site
[01:02] <Seveas> funny thing, google
[01:02] <Soskel> please use a pastebin next time
[01:02] <Seveas> Soskel, use /dev/null for trolling
[01:03] <gnomefreak> 18:59 <nzero> you didn't answer the question of how you plan to ban a changing ip address
[01:03] <gnomefreak> 19:01 <gnomefreak> nzero doesnt matter how i do it its alredy been done. now i suggest you go find somewhere else to get help if you need it that bad. if you thin this ban was wrong join #ubuntu-ops with logs 
[01:03] <gnomefreak> 19:01 <gnomefreak> if you cant do that than im done.
[01:03] <gnomefreak> nzero: that is what i said about logs
[01:03] <gnomefreak> did i miss a line'
[01:04] <gnomefreak> no i did
[01:04] <nzero> but you didn't ban me, you have banned me under different names over 5 times now gnomefreak and its always been about some joke that your humorless self got all tight about. and i have gotten past all those bans and i'll do it again
[01:04] <Seveas> nzero, if you come in here just to rant, please leave
[01:04] <gnomefreak> nzero: did i? nalioth is him admitting it enough for a kline?
[01:05] <Seveas> if you have a serious complaint, back it up with logs
[01:05] <Soskel> gnomefreak: you may not be aware, but you can't ban a specific dynamic IP
[01:05] <gnomefreak> Soskel: you stick with your person
[01:05] <Seveas> Soskel, please leave if you have nothing useful to say
[01:05] <Soskel> Seveas: please stfu
[01:05] <nzero> yes but if you ban the IP i am on at a higher level you risk have everyone else on that number not be able to use ubuntu support
[01:06] <gnomefreak> stupid little man
[01:06] <gnomefreak> nzero: than go for it. if you think you want to dodge it feel free
[01:06] <nzero> oh and then there always the various WiFi spots around me as well, all i am saying is stop being dick and be a little human
[01:06] <PriceChild> nzero, we're cleverer than that :)
[01:06] <gnomefreak> nzero: but warning you now admitting it in a channel full of ops and freenode staff not really smartest thing to do
[01:07] <nalioth> what does nzero do? (besides evade bans)
[01:07] <Seveas> evade k-lines?
[01:08] <nalioth> nzero, why were you banned in the 1st place?
[01:08] <nzero> oh
[01:08] <gnomefreak> nalioth: it started because of his use of language and fighting mc and i over it and than saying we are reacists
[01:08] <gnomefreak> racists
[01:08] <nzero> cause somebody came in and said hey everybody
[01:08] <nalioth> gnomefreak: ah
[01:09] <nzero> and me being the funny guy i am, said in quot "yo yo my nigga"
[01:09] <Seveas> that's nowhere near funny
[01:09] <nalioth> unfortunately, that is not funny for everyone
[01:09] <nzero> now i could have said nigger, now that is offensive (in certain situtions) but nigga is not even technically a word
[01:09] <nzero> its slanguage
[01:10] <PriceChild> slanguage?
[01:10] <PriceChild> that's not even a word either?
[01:10] <nzero> true
[01:10] <Seveas> PriceChild, that translates to "thin excuses for trolling"
[01:10] <PriceChild> nzero, please do not try to be clever with us. Please do not think you can bend the rules and make it "technically ok" for you to do whatever it is you want to do.
[01:10] <Daviey> How long does it take a kline to get activated? :)