_StefanS_mel: sorry12:38
_StefanS_night all12:38
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melkorthe dpkg way says its not instelled, and I tried the sudo X -configure, then replace the file, but it says no screen12:39
cboxhere's what i have. normal loading time: 3:40. if i hit "ALT F1" just as it starts, loading time: 0:4012:39
saeedhi all12:39
melkorer no screens found12:39
meltry my ip
saeedcan someone please tell me how to run compiz-fusion?12:40
saeedI know that it works out of the box in ubuntu12:40
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saeedbut how does one go about doing it in kubuntu12:40
saeedI have downloaded all compiz packages I could find12:40
_StefanS_mel: works12:41
melcan you help now12:41
_StefanS_mel: I cant click anything12:41
_StefanS_mel: Yes12:41
cboxit looks as though its "stalling" at the beginning of the boot where is says "no resume image found - starting normal boot" what does that mean??12:42
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_StefanS_cbox: for hibernate/suspend in laptops I think12:42
melcan you see my desktop12:42
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cboxim using a desktop, so how do i turn that feature off?12:42
saeedanybody can help"12:43
cboxand can i assume thats the issue? and when I hit Alt F1, it overrides that and starts normally?12:43
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_StefanS_mel: still only view12:43
_StefanS_mel: and the graphics dont update12:43
_StefanS_mel: let me try another vnc client12:44
melHmm ahve you done tis before12:44
cboxno one has any help fer moi?12:44
keithcbox, I'm thinking, but nothing's coming to mind yet.  I've seen that "no resume image" msg, but never had a problem there so haven't looked into it.12:45
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saeedanyone can help with compiz?12:46
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YammehHey guys, can you recommend a program for burning images?12:46
cboxhmm. is there a way I can have the boot script automatically emulate ALTF1 for me? i dont need a blank screen, I'd prefer to see whats going on behind the scenes anyways!12:46
_StefanS_cbox: sudo apt-get remove usplash ;)12:46
meli see you moving the mouse around12:46
_StefanS_cbox: or remove the splash12:47
_StefanS_cbox: from /boot/grub/menu.lst12:47
cboxdoes it matter which one i do12:47
meldo you want me to remove the animation12:47
saeedanybody knows how to make compiz work?12:47
_StefanS_cbox: well removing usplash is probably easisst12:47
saeedI am out of ideas12:47
saeedI tried several sites, used google12:48
_StefanS_saeed: what gfx card?12:48
saeedand nothing is working so far12:48
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saeedIntel 91512:48
_StefanS_hey Jucato12:48
saeedsomeone said I should change video effects to "aiglx"12:48
saeedbut I couldn't find such entry in my xorg.conf12:48
cboxok i just used "sudo apt-get remove usplash"12:48
_StefanS_cbox: yup12:49
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melStefan I am going to email you with a password to login to my system ok..12:49
Jucatohi _StefanS_12:49
_StefanS_mel: i cant select anything12:49
_StefanS_mel: ok, have you install ssh ?12:49
melCan you type anything in12:49
_StefanS_dont think so12:49
cboxi'll try loggin in again and see whats happening! thanks stefans12:49
melno how do I install SSH12:49
_StefanS_mel: sudo apt-get install ssh12:49
melOk hold12:50
Jucato_StefanS_: perhaps openssh-server ?12:50
_StefanS_Jucato: ssh does the same12:50
cboxbtw, stefans, you aren't canadian are you?12:50
_StefanS_cbox: nawp.. danish bacon my friend12:50
saeedanyone here KNOWS ANYTHING about compiz-fusion?12:50
melOk it is installed12:50
MacZtttlkworkI know something, saeed.12:51
Jucato_StefanS_: ah it's a metapackage12:51
cboxok, i know another stefan s. thought i would ask!12:51
saeedcould u PLEASE help12:51
Jucato!compiz | saeed12:51
ubotusaeed: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:51
_StefanS_Jucato: maybe you should explain saeed in regards to helping12:51
Jucato!caps | saeed12:51
ubotusaeed: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.12:51
saeedthese SITES do NOT help12:51
Jucato!patience | saeed12:51
ubotusaeed: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:51
saeedI tried ALL of them12:51
MacZtttlkworkWhat's your problem?12:51
_StefanS_cbox: thats ok12:51
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Yammehan you recommend a program for burning images?12:51
saeedI can't get compiz-fusion to work on my laptop12:51
MacZtttlkworkFor me compiz fusion is not working well with Kubuntu. I keep using Beryl and it has no problems.12:51
JucatoYammeh: ISO images? k3b12:52
melStefnS if you need to sleep man.. No probs.. I will be here tomorrow at 6pm EST..12:52
MacZtttlkworkWhat graphics card are you using?12:52
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saeeddoes Beryl have the same effects?12:52
saeedIntel 915, integrated12:52
saeeda piece of junk12:52
MacZtttlkworkNot the same but very similar12:52
_StefanS_saeed: beryl was just the previous version12:52
saeedbut that's all I have12:52
_StefanS_mel: check the message12:52
melbrb potty12:52
MacZtttlkworkthe only thing you'll miss.... is some sort of flame... wich is useless12:52
Jucato_StefanS_: if you don't need to sleep yet, I do... I've been up all night. so I leave the channel to you :P12:53
saeedI am not going to miss that one12:53
Jucato(stdin and Tm_T are there anyway)12:53
saeeddoes beryl have the switcher?12:53
MacZtttlkworkJucato, do they pay you for support? lol12:53
JucatoMacZtttlkwork: I wish!12:53
MacZtttlkworksaeed: yes it has.12:53
saeedthe one that looks like MACs or VISTA?12:53
saeedhow do I install Beryl?12:53
_StefanS_Jucato: well I need to sleep since my kid needs food around 4-5 oclock12:53
MacZtttlkworkI think it's quite simple...12:54
saeeddo I need to remove compiz stuff?12:54
Jucato_StefanS_: good night then.12:54
MacZtttlkworkif you have the 3d drivers already installed, that's it12:54
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saeedhow do I install the 3d drivers?12:54
MacZtttlkworkNo, you can install it and keep the compiz stuff.12:54
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MacZtttlkworklet's see...12:54
saeedor adpet?12:54
cboxstefans, keith, you guys are good!!12:54
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saeedTHANKS a million by the way12:54
saeedI appreciate your help12:54
MacZtttlkworkthe intel 915 has open source drivers wich come with 3d acceleration, doesn't it?12:54
_StefanS_mel: I'm on your system now12:55
saeedI think so12:55
MacZtttlkworkOpen adept12:55
saeedI am there12:55
MacZtttlkworkwait a sec. I'm looking for the package...12:55
keithThanks, cbox. So it boots up faster now?12:55
cboxyeah its super quick! i didnt need a splash screen anyways!12:56
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saeedThanks a LOT man12:56
cboxso do i ask about my other issue, or am i pushing my luck with one solved problem per day??:)12:56
keithSweet cbox!  I have no clue why the splash screen was slowing you down, but sometimes we just have to shrug and go to the next thing <LOL>12:57
saeedberyl search yields nothing12:57
keithI have time and am willing to try, cbox.12:57
saeedI think it has to be something else12:57
cboxok. it might be easier12:57
_StefanS_mel: sound seems okay, its not muted and the module is lodad12:57
twixterhi, is ScorpKing still here?12:57
MacZtttlkworkclose adept and open "add programs" in the K menu12:58
saeedMacZtttlkwork: yes?12:58
saeedI am there12:58
MacZtttlkworkthe write "beryl" in the search box12:58
MacZtttlkworkand select the three options that appear12:58
cboxi have 2x 250GB external HDDs that I have been using on my XP machine. they store pics and movies, and my mp3s and things. and if i am making this Ubuntu box my media centre i need them to be read on it too. problem is when i USB plug them in, ubuntu doesnt recognize them12:58
cboxit does however recognize my little usb key drive without problem12:58
saeedMacZtttlkwork: I got nothing12:58
saeedwhen I searched both12:58
MacZtttlkworkhum.. that must be about the package sources12:59
saeedwhich ones should add?12:59
Daisuke-Idoberyl is deprecated, no longer developed, why get someone using something that is going to remain stagnant rather than compiz-fusion, which is under active development12:59
saeedDaisuke-Ido: how would u install compiz-fusion?12:59
MacZtttlkworkah, wait! Are you using Kubuntu 7.04?01:00
melyes I figuered that much01:00
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saeedrelease candidate01:00
meli been researched it but cou;d not find a fix01:00
Daisuke-Ido7.10 rc01:00
twixterhi, I was following instructions ScorpKing gave me to upgrade my kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 and i encountered a problem01:00
saeedfinal release is in 3 days01:00
twixteri would be glad to describe everything i did, if this is the right channel for it01:01
Daisuke-Idoi have yet to use kde in gutsy, so i have no clue if they've added an applet to turn that on...01:01
MacZtttlkworkDaisuke-Ido: I was telling him about beryl because he told me that Compiz Fusion wasn't working. And as I am in the same situation, but Beryl does work ...01:01
saeedNo, there's no applet to turn it on01:01
saeedunless they do it in the final release01:01
Daisuke-Idothen that's a situation where beryl might be a better idea for now01:01
melhow do I install beryl I have it...01:01
keithHad to leave the la-z-boy for a minute, cbox. Reading your messages now...01:01
Daisuke-Idocarry on01:01
saeedI can't even get beryl01:02
saeedI searched for it01:02
saeedbut no luck so far01:02
MacZtttlkworkbut there's a problem. As he's using a newly developed version......it hasn't got the same packages as Feisty01:02
Daisuke-Idoit may have been removed from gutsy01:02
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Daisuke-Idoin which case, compiz fusion is about the only option01:02
MacZtttlkworkI guess that as beryl is older they've left it and they care about Compiz Fusion01:02
Daisuke-IdoMacZtttlkwork: wrong01:02
Daisuke-Idoberyl forked from compiz01:02
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cboxla-z-boy. sounds like a nice workstation!01:03
Daisuke-Idoand later on, they re-merged01:03
MacZtttlkworkyeah... I meant the beryl package, the one I am using now.01:03
saeedthere's NOTHING about beryl01:03
Daisuke-Idono, there isn't01:03
saeedplenty of compiz stuff, but nothing about beryl01:03
MacZtttlkworkWe know, saeed.01:03
saeedand I enabled ALL repos01:03
Daisuke-Idocompiz fusion is the only option in gutsy01:03
MacZtttlkworkIf you can wait 4 days for the final release...01:03
melStefanS what do you think is wrong with my system?01:03
saeedyou think it will be in the final release?01:04
MacZtttlkworkthen you could have that nice dialog box wich auto-installs compiz fusion hehe01:04
Daisuke-Idoberyl will not, NO01:04
MacZtttlkworkbut Compiz Fusion will be01:04
MacZtttlkworkIf am not wrong!01:04
Daisuke-Idoberyl is gone, done, kaput01:04
keithcbox, first let's see if Linux recognizes the drive as anything at all. Plug it in, and after a few secs check the last lines of /var/log/syslog for messages about /dev/something or USB.01:04
Daisuke-Idocompiz fusion is already there01:04
MacZtttlkworkI think that's clear..01:04
Daisuke-Idoand is installed by default01:04
MacZtttlkworkbut saeed hasn't seen the dialog box.01:04
Daisuke-Idothere isn't one for kde01:04
MacZtttlkworkthen the problem is about wizards...:-D01:04
keithIt's easy to check with "tail -25 /var/log/syslog"01:05
keithThat'll show the last 25 lines of the file.01:05
MacZtttlkworkIs GNOME catching up us? :-(01:05
cboxkeith, check that just using gedit??01:05
saeedI have installed the beta version of ubuntu01:05
Daisuke-IdoMacZtttlkwork: gnome is the main DE for ubuntu01:05
MinatakuHeya, MacZtttlkwork01:05
Daisuke-Idokde gets things like that later if at all01:05
saeedthere's an option there to switch 3d effects on01:05
keithcbox, gedit will work too.01:05
Daisuke-Idoit's been that way for a long time01:05
saeedbut nothing similar has been added to kubuntu01:05
MinatakuYeah, but GNOME usually screws things up. A lot.01:06
MacZtttlkworkHi Minataku01:06
MinatakuI mean, look at GNOME itself.01:06
Daisuke-Idoas i just said, saeed...01:06
Daisuke-Idoah crap01:06
MinatakuCOMPLETELY screwed up.01:06
Daisuke-Idoenough gnome bashing01:06
MacZtttlkworkOk, let's not start a flame war about GNOME.... this is not the place :P01:06
MinatakuTaser the gnome for low rates!01:06
saeedI am OK with gnome, as long as they add something similar to karamba, I will switch01:06
saeedin the meantime01:07
saeedI like my KDE01:07
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Daisuke-Idoit's been there01:07
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MacZtttlkworkThe problem was about compiz fusion?01:07
saeednope, there's NOTHING vaguely similar to karamba01:07
saeedi know01:07
MacZtttlkworkAny clue about how to install it in the new version? I don't have that version so....01:07
saeedI am still hoping I ll get it to work01:07
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cboxi do see some USB messages01:07
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melDoes anyone know how to fix my sound remotley..01:07
MacZtttlkworkany developer or something here that knows if the final release of Kubuntu (with K) will come with any autinstaller for 3d effects?01:08
MacZtttlkworkbecause if not this distro is... behind others such as Opensuse or Mandriva :O01:08
Daisuke-Idoas features have been frozen for a month, no, no it won't.01:08
keithcbox, any messages that look like a drive, like /dev/sda1, something like that?01:09
Daisuke-Idokde is not the main focus of the distro01:09
MinatakuSay, MacZtttlkwork, how was NetBSD?01:09
cboxNew device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b4_6830_DEF106207355_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun0_scsi_generic').01:09
twixterhello, is this the right channel for discussing problems upgrading kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04?01:09
saeedI guess I ll have to switch to openSUSE or something01:09
saeedI LOVE the 3d effects01:09
saeedtoo much01:09
cboxhald: mounted /dev/sdb1 on behalf of uid 100001:09
cboxso its mounting, but im not seeing it anywhere??01:10
MacZtttlkworkI haven't been with that computer still (it's in the residence where I live ...when I am not at home :D)01:10
keithcbox, perfect!  That's just what we needed.01:10
saeedthat's how I can convince an average person that linux is WAY better than vista01:10
MacZtttlkworktwixter this is the right channel01:10
cboxwait a minute! i just checked again, and it was there!01:10
MinatakuFeh... ol' "Joe D. Average"01:10
cboxwhat the hell? why all of a sudden??01:10
MinatakuThe D stands for DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr01:10
MacZtttlkworksaeed... if KDE is not the main focus of the distro... guess we both should be changing!01:10
MacZtttlkworkWell.... i'll stick with it for the meantime01:11
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keithcbox, same reason your car engine suddenly starts running smoothly when you take it to the mechanic :)01:11
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Daisuke-Idosaeed: gdesklets01:11
Daisuke-Idodesktop widgets for gnome.01:11
twixterMacZ: I have already discussed this with ScorpKing who appears to have left. Update manager tells me "file:/usr/local/mydebs/./Packages.gz: File not found'01:11
melMy sound is not working with my Toshiba P105 S9312 Laptop. Does anyone know of any fix for this?01:11
cboxkeith, you are the man!01:11
twixtermacZ: ScorpKing gave me a remedy but I encountered a problem01:11
twixtermacZ: I would like to describe to you everything I did01:12
MacZtttlkworktwixter: I'm not an expert... let's see if anyone here has any idea01:12
MacZtttlkwork(I always do fresh installs.., sorry)01:12
keithcbox, sometimes it'll see a drive okay, but it doesn't get auto-mounted. I don't know why. That's probably what happend before. Thanks for the compliment. I enjoy helping out :)01:12
twixtermacZ i can wait until tomorrow night, ScorpKing said he would be back then.01:13
MacZtttlkworkok! sorry I couldn't help you :(01:13
saeedgdesklets are a JOKE01:13
cboxyou're definately good people. ok, im going to watch hockey. Go Leafs Go!01:13
twixterok thanks anyway01:13
saeedhave you ever tried them?01:13
Daisuke-Idoso don't use them01:13
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saeedDaisuke-Ido: have u ever tried gdesklets?01:13
MacZtttlkworkgdesklets... let me search for that :D01:13
MacZtttlkworkthere's something for gnome...01:14
saeednothing compared to superkaramb stuffa01:14
Daisuke-Idoyou asked for an alternative, i gave you one, i for one don't care if you like them or not, they're there.01:14
saeedI understand01:14
MacZtttlkworkit's called kiba-dock01:14
Daisuke-Idodon't claim there's no alternative :)01:14
MacZtttlkworkit's like the dock of mac if you like that stuff01:14
saeedkiba-dock is AMAZING01:14
saeedI tried it01:14
saeedit's definitely cool01:14
Daisuke-IdoMacZtttlkwork: avant-window-navigator > kiba01:14
Daisuke-Ido(well, if you value function over form)01:15
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MacZtttlkworkI have played with it but nothing serious... no wedding or else hehe01:15
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MacZtttlkworkwow I think the next version of Amarok for KDE 4 will have 3d effects (CD covers presentation)01:15
Daisuke-Idoand it's also being ported to windows01:16
MacZtttlkworksaeed: so you tried the "how to"'s and.... they didn't worked for you?01:16
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saeednothing worked for real01:16
MacZtttlkworkDaisuke-Ido: many parts of KDE are being ported, arent' they?01:16
saeedI have dolphin in place of konqueror01:17
MacZtttlkworkyour graphics card was listed as supported?01:17
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saeedbut I don't see much of a difference01:17
Daisuke-IdoMacZtttlkwork: it's not that many parts are being ported, it's that they can be now, since qt is gpl'd on all platforms rather than just linux01:17
DragnslcrI think KDE4 itself will run on Windows01:17
MacZtttlkwork(excuse me if I make many grammar mistakes... I'm not a native English speaker :-o)01:17
Daisuke-IdoDragnslcr: exactly01:17
saeedhaving KDE on windows will be so much fun01:17
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DragnslcrDunno exactly how, but it'll be interesting to see01:17
atlfalcons866how do i get beagle to work01:17
Daisuke-Idohaving kde on windows will break down the barrier to entry for linux01:18
DragnslcrNot sure if I could convince the guys at work to let me try it on my computer01:18
saeedyou don't need beagle01:18
blendtuxi have got a strange problem, i rebooted and now my resolution is wrong, its says its doing 1024x768 but it seems that my desktop is now bigger then my fysical screen01:18
MacZtttlkworkIt will be like that program "Talisman" well.. I'm talking about shareware from the 90's hehe01:18
saeeduse strigi01:18
saeedit should be in the gutsy repos01:18
atlfalcons866strgi dosent index .ogg01:18
saeedit does the same thing01:18
saeedand it's open source01:18
Daisuke-Ido"well, i have amarok, firefox, thunderbird, and dolphin here...  it's also over there on that linux machine."01:18
blendtuxhow can i reconfigure my x so that i have the right resolution back01:18
Daisuke-Idono barrier, they can pick up and go01:18
atlfalcons866can stirgi index .ogg01:19
MacZtttlkworkYes,... In enterprise environments they can use both Linux and Windows but both of them using KDE so the employees won't feel much difference and so. It'd be cool.01:19
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Daisuke-Idopossibly, it will start to break the stranglehold microsoft has on businesses01:20
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MacZtttlkworkblendtux: did you modified anything in the X?01:20
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saeedI think more stuff cross-compiled so that it runs on *nix and M$ will help more people switch to open source stuff01:21
saeedespecially companies01:21
saeedwhen they see the quality of open source software01:21
YammehAnyone know a decent ftp client?01:21
atlfalcons866is kde4 in gutsy01:21
saeednot all of it01:21
saeedjust some apps01:21
saeeddolphin, strigi, and some games01:21
MacZtttlkworkYes I think so... but it could be the same in the other way! LOL    Going back to windows because they have their lovely KDE..01:21
hitmanWillyYammeh: uhhh, konqueror?01:22
CPrompt^Yammeh : Filezila01:22
saeedsolitaire (patience), mahjong and a couple of other ones01:22
YammehDoesnt allow me to save ftps, does it?01:22
MacZtttlkworkKonqueror rules01:22
saeedkonqueror is being phased out01:22
saeedand dolphin is replacing it01:22
MacZtttlkworkBad things always rise....01:22
saeednot always01:22
hitmanWillydolphin does web?01:22
MacZtttlkworkI have tried it01:22
MacZtttlkworkand it...sucks!01:23
saeedit works fine01:23
MacZtttlkworkKonqueror works fine too01:23
saeedplasmoids are a big thing in kde401:23
MacZtttlkworkbut it's even better, so I don't see the point for replacing it01:23
saeedthey will replace karamba widgets01:23
MacZtttlkworksaeed. what's the difference between karamba and superkaramba?01:23
saeedit's the same thing01:24
saeedone is newer (super)01:24
blendtuxso MacZtttlkwork what should i do01:24
hitmanWillydoes it have the capability to do moz plugins as well, or is it like konq where you need a seperate plugin app?01:24
saeedI have no idea as to dophin capabilities01:24
MacZtttlkworkopen the k menu and go to01:24
saeedbut it looks and feels like konqueror01:24
MacZtttlkworksystem settings01:24
MacZtttlkworkthen to screen01:24
MacZtttlkworkand try to change the resolution to any other and see what happens01:25
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hitmanWillythat's about the only issue i have with konq, esp on 64 bit systems01:25
saeedthe only difference is a panel to the right, giving you more info about what you re opening01:25
blendtuxit stays the same MacZtttlkwork01:25
saeedand another panel to the left01:25
blendtuxbrb MacZtttlkwork01:25
saeedwith icons01:25
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saeedu can single click to switch stuff01:26
saeedjust like Mac OS X01:26
saeedbut simpler01:26
MacZtttlkworksaeed: I have dolphin installed and it is not internet capable01:26
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saeedit is01:26
MacZtttlkworkI am looking for a way to reconfigure xorg01:26
saeedI use it everytime I click on a link here01:26
Daisuke-Idosimpler than a mac doesn't exist.01:26
saeedfor example on pastebin links01:26
CPrompt^MacZtttlkwork : dolphin is a file manager only from what I know.  it isn't to replace Konq01:26
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saeedit kicks automatically on my system01:26
noktirnalnew to kubuntu, trying to get wireless lan to work, can anyone help?01:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:27
Daisuke-Idobut yeah, it's just a file manager01:27
saeedI thinkI ll try openSUSE to get the compiz working01:27
saeedthanks all01:27
saeedand have a good night01:27
Daisuke-Idowell if you'd just run compiz --replace01:27
Daisuke-Idothere might be a shot01:27
MacZtttlkworkIf windows has explorer with the web browsing and file manager integrated...why should we separate the file manager from the navigator?01:27
saeedI tried01:27
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saeedbut very few effects work01:27
Daisuke-Idoso install the settings manager01:28
MacZtttlkworksaeed: bye01:28
saeedtake care guys01:28
ChaosMachineWhen gutsy comes out, will there be a way I can just upgrade while keeping all of my personal files? or will I have to do a fresh install?01:28
Daisuke-IdoChaosMachine: upgrade works well01:28
MacZtttlkworkbut does it work?01:28
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CPrompt^more on Dolphine : http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/01:28
noktirnalcompiz is buggy check out sambayon01:28
MacZtttlkworkperhaps you didn't installed the plugins or something lol01:28
jackuesshi you guys01:28
saeedtrust me01:28
jackuessi have somewhat of a sittuation01:28
ChaosMachineDaisuke-Ido, ah :) in a nutshell how do I do that? (a website, or command?)01:28
saeedI install every DARN package I could get my hands on01:28
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jackuessim trying to upgrade to gutsy01:28
Daisuke-Idosaeed: trust me: if it messed up, you did it.01:28
MacZtttlkworkOk, anyway remember that you are using a RC... not a final version.01:28
Daisuke-Idocompiz --replace ccp01:29
keithnoktimal, check out the last post in this thread. It's the advice I've been handing out for wireless. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57687501:29
jackuessut the upgrade-manager hung up on me01:29
Daisuke-IdoChaosMachine: adept-manager should give you the option to upgrade01:29
noktirnalthanx will check it out01:29
DragnslcrChaosMachine- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f5201:29
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Daisuke-Idoand just for the record!01:29
Daisuke-Idosabayon linux is based on gentoo, and (get this) uses compiz!01:30
jackuessand now i can't start it again01:30
Daisuke-Idoyour advice therefore made no sense.01:30
MacZtttlkworkI think that when blendtux had come back........ this is the command he should type to reconfigure the Xorg sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh01:30
MacZtttlkworkis the command right?01:30
ChaosMachineDragnslcr, Daisuke-Ido okay thank you both.01:30
Daisuke-Idodpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg01:31
Daisuke-Idobut very very close01:31
Daisuke-Ido<command> <arguments> <target>01:31
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blendtuxwhat does the -phigh flag does MacZtttlkwork01:32
Daisuke-Idopriority: high01:32
DaSkreech!gutsy | jackuess01:32
ubotujackuess: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:32
Daisuke-Idodriver and resolution01:32
jackuessoki thx01:32
MacZtttlkworkit will all be automatic I think ... or I hope01:32
blendtuxdoes it need to read an old xorg.conf or does it create a new one01:33
Daisuke-Idoit will just use the one you have01:33
Daisuke-Idoit will ask what driver, what resolutions you want available, and i think what extensions01:33
MacZtttlkworkand hopefully you will get  your screen back to the normal situation01:33
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MacZtttlkworkremember to have your screen specs by the way!01:34
searaymancan i have help gettign to try kde 4 beta on kubuntu?01:34
MacZtttlkworkI think it asked you for some information about it01:34
MacZtttlkworksearayman: I believe there's a package made for that purpose01:35
MacZtttlkworksearch for kde4 in adept01:35
searaymanMacZtttlkwork: i am having trouble tryiing to follow instructiosn found here, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php01:35
Dragnslcrsearayman- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php01:36
kobolI've been trying to create a desktop shortcut to my Windows harddrive, but every time I do I get an error whenever I open it.01:36
searaymanDragnslcr: i am having trouble followign that, i have done the 3rd bullet then the 4th says run some programs... what does that mean? how do i run plasma?01:37
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kobolThe error says...mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /media/hda1 mount failed.01:37
kobolAny ideas?01:37
awaghi i just installed 7.10 and the "search for files" button seems to be missing from the main menu01:38
MacZtttlkworki have never tried kde4 .... isn't there a k menu or something?01:38
MacZtttlkworktry to use the combination for the "execute command" dialog box01:38
Daisuke-Idokobol: then umount it and remount it01:38
kobolDaisuke-Ido: so umount /dev/hda1 and then mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1?01:39
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MacZtttlkworksearayman: try to open konsole01:39
Daisuke-Idoi assume /dev/hda1 is your windows drive?01:39
Daisuke-Idoyeah, i would give that a shot, see what happens01:40
searaymanMacZtttlkwork: ok its open now what?01:40
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kobolDaisuke-Ido: Yes, it is, and going for it now :)01:40
MacZtttlkworknow type... the name of some kde4 programm01:40
MacZtttlkworklike a KDE game if you installed those01:40
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noktirnalthat doesn't apply01:41
noktirnalbroadcom pci wlan01:41
MacZtttlkworkanyway I think that the version you're using is very "alpha" if it's the one that comes with Feisty.01:41
noktirnali think i need to use ndiswrapper01:41
searaymanMacZtttlkwork: i am using gutsy01:41
noktirnalthat's how it worked w/ opensuse, any idea on how it might work w/ kubuntu?01:42
MacZtttlkworkah! try amarok and see if it's compilled for kde401:42
DaSkreechsearayman: A better newer beta is out this week01:42
searaymanDaSkreech: but how do i get this one working?01:42
MacZtttlkworkniktirnal: if you needed ndiswrapper I guess you'll need it again for kubuntu01:43
kobolDaisuke-Ido: Same thing :(01:43
kobolDaisuke-Ido: Should I just mount it to some place like /mnt/hda1?01:43
MacZtttlkworknokrtirnal *01:43
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searaymananyone know how to get kde 4 beta workign on kubuntu?01:44
Daisuke-Idokobol: no idea01:45
MacZtttlkworkwell people enough talking for today. See you!01:46
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noktirnalis it a package DL?01:49
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kobolDaisuke-Ido: I know there's a way to give myself access to my drive via Konqueror, something like sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ugroup=0022 or something? Do you know what I'm talking about?01:52
Daisuke-Idonot entirely sure, no01:53
heinkel_111Hi, i am using Feisty and I have a problem with X locking up very often, especially when running 64 bit kubuntu. Is as module called "wfb" of any importance? In my system log it comes out with an error, module does not exist01:53
DaSkreechkobol: umask01:54
kobolDaSkreech: Oh thanks :)01:54
heinkel_111eh... boot log does not exist, is that kinda sign something may be wrong?01:54
kobolDaSkreech: Just gave me a big list of commands, as if what I put in doesn't work? I just tried sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 umask=0022 was that not the right syntax?01:56
DaSkreechkobol: -o umask =002201:56
kobolDaSkreech: Will it be there when I login, reboot etc now?01:57
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DaSkreech!fstab | kobol01:59
ubotukobol: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:59
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ElecNinja!partitions | kobol02:00
ubotukobol: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:00
ElecNinja!swap | kobol02:00
ubotukobol: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info02:00
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LjLnazi-ubuntu: i wouldn't mind if you changed that nickname, please02:07
Tm_TI second that02:07
nazi-ubuntuok,era uno scherzo :)02:07
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LjLazzimiei: we only understand english here :)02:08
ElecNinjaSpanish. Interesting.02:08
azzimieiescuse  my02:08
freeportI'm using FF and can't find the commercial repository.  I'm trying to install realpayer and can't find it with adept.02:10
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:11
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser02:11
freeportI read in the ubunto documentation that the real was in the comercial02:11
ElecNinjaWait, isn't it supposed to be as in beer?02:11
DaSkreechfreeport: It is but the above documentation is just as good02:11
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freeportthanks guys02:12
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el-lectronhow can I erase the WEP3 password?02:14
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:14
el-lectronI entered the wrong one02:14
DaSkreechel-lectron: it should reask you then02:14
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el-lectronDaSkreech: it isnt doing it02:15
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ElecNinjael-lectron: Try lookiing in the Network Manager.02:16
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DaSkreechElecNinja: Right Click Kneworkmanager -> options -> Configure -> Wireless Networks -> trusted networks -> remove02:17
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el-lectronDaSkreech: ha ok02:17
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el-lectronis not doing in it :(02:18
el-lectronKubuntu is a failure02:18
ElecNinjaFor you maybe? But did you try and select your network again to reconnect and see what happens?02:19
DaSkreech!wifi | el-lectron02:19
ubotuel-lectron: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:19
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letaliskubuntu is a failure?02:21
letalishow so?02:21
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weswh-i am trying to find the nvidia driver setup GUI (where you size and position the screens), I remember it being something I had to launch from terminal02:21
weswh-now that I think about it - does anyone know? something like sudo nvidia-config02:21
DaSkreechletalis: don't feed trolls :)02:22
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el-lectronletalis: because is not working?02:22
letalisits workign for me.02:23
el-lectronDaSkreech: the networks are removed02:23
letalismines special. i modified it myself02:23
el-lectronletalis: may you using crappy WEP security02:23
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ElecNinja!nvidia | weswh02:24
ubotuweswh: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:24
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julianHow to switch back & forth?02:25
ElecNinjaIn the log in screen02:25
letalisactualy its wpa02:25
Tm_Tjulian: chooce when login02:25
juliansuper. thanks!02:25
ElecNinjaWhen you have the session type, you can choose there.02:25
letalisbut the comps on this networked are also locked by mac address. even if they did break in, if they arent in the list they get the boot.02:26
letalisid say its pretty secure.02:26
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el-lectronwhy did you give this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs where I gotta look all over open a thousad tabs when this is Kubuntu channel? I could've save a lot of time if I was given this link directly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu02:29
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el-lectronOMG my specific card has to be WPA2 compatible now??!! :-(02:31
kobolDaSkreech: Tried to install subversion but got "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" Any ideas?02:32
DaSkreechkobol: You have adept open ?02:32
ekrengelyeah you must have it open somewhere02:33
letalisel-lectron: do you knwo what the chipset for your card is?02:33
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el-lectronwhere on earth is KWallet? I think is stored in there02:36
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Angelusguys , when can  i report a bug on gutsy?02:37
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ekrengelwhere is the kdm theme folder located?02:37
el-lectronletalis: zydas zd121102:37
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ElecNinjaAngelus: Most likely on the Gutsy Help area. Or nowhere.02:38
kobolDaSkreech, That was the problem hehe, thanks.02:39
kobolDaSkreech, mind if I bug you once more for something?02:40
el-lectronit doesn't look the shitty driver has WEP202:41
el-lectronanyways shouldn't Kubuntu TELL YOU WEP3 isn't supported instead of wasting my time??02:41
el-lectronoh ok the dialogue appeared again02:42
Daisuke-Ido!language | el-lectron02:44
ubotuel-lectron: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.02:44
Daisuke-Ido!coc | el-lectron02:44
ubotuel-lectron: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:44
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el-lectronamusing... @_@ outta all my dire issues the only thing you care is about that?02:44
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el-lectronwhy isn't telling me something like ERROR PASSWORD INCORRECT02:47
el-lectronor smething I can troubleshoot?02:47
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el-lectronI think kubuntu wireless has severe issues to improve02:48
Airforce55555i dont02:49
Airforce55555i got my wireless working in 30 minutes02:49
Airforce55555with 2 commands :D02:49
Airforce55555and i have a broadcom wireless card02:49
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el-lectronAirforce55555: I do that in even less time without security02:50
el-lectronEven A Caveman Can Do It02:50
el-lectronI am talking about encryption here02:50
Airforce55555oh :P02:50
Daisuke-Idoel-lectron: if you don't have a decent attitude, your problem doesn't mean much :)  that being said, no, i don't think it supports wpa3 (i wasn't aware wpa3 even existed yet)02:50
el-lectronoh now is my attitude. Why can't you admit this is something kubuntu needs to improve?02:51
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el-lectronI don't have cash to buy Vista, I am stuck with Kubuntu :(02:52
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DaSkreechkobol: whats up?02:54
Yammehel-lectron, don't use wireless.. problem solved02:54
el-lectronis this WPA2? WEP64/128/256, WPA-PSK02:54
cashel-lectron you can download key for Vista -free)))02:55
el-lectronthat's what the chipset says suppoert02:55
DaSkreechel-lectron: It does have issues. If you like you can help out02:55
fignewel-lectron: who's forcing you to use kubuntu?02:55
el-lectronI am not rich, that's why02:56
kobolDaSkreech: I actually figured it out, so no sweat :)02:56
el-lectronanbody? WEP64/128/256, WPA-PSK = WPA2 ??02:56
Yammehel-lectron, it's not that much for a copy of vista02:56
fignewwhat does that mean?02:56
DaSkreechel-lectron: what?02:56
YammehHe's just stating encryption algorithms for wireless I think02:57
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el-lectronforget about it ... I am going back to gentoo03:00
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fignewisn't choice wonderful?03:00
ardchoilleel-lectron: Don't let it beat you.03:02
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dsmith__anyone do an update from 7.04 to 7.10?03:17
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stdindsmith__: lots of people in #ubuntu+1 have03:17
dsmith__ok... i am going to try it again since it mentions broadcomm support03:19
dsmith__however, I am doing a backup beforehand03:19
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DaSkreechGood man03:19
stdinbackups are always a good idea :)03:19
DaSkreechdsmith__: read the upgrade notices first03:19
dsmith__i will later this week03:20
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keithGlad I was taking a break while el-lectron was here. What a jerk!03:22
DaSkreechkeith: Alright don't feed trolls after they are gone either03:25
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keith:)  Wouldn't have said it while he was here...and I'll behave now.03:25
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keithIncidentally, for anyone else who was wondering about his question, all he had to do was type "wpa-psk" into Google. It took me right to a Wikipedia page with the answer.03:26
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tony_I need help with DVD and wmv playback please.03:34
DaSkreech!dvd | tony_03:35
ubotutony_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:35
DaSkreech!w32codecs | tony_03:35
ubotutony_: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs03:35
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kobolDaSkreech: Hey, I have a friend of mine who needs 1680x1024 on Kubuntu, and I can't exactly remember how to go about doing it other than the xorg reconfigure, should I just have him do that? I was in here yesterday and someone named kristjan_ told me about doing it another way, but it was a long, involved process I can't remember :S03:37
osirisBNChi i have a netgear WG311 PCI adapter wireless card03:37
osirisBNChow can i get it to work on kubuntu03:37
osirisBNCthe latest versoin03:38
osirisBNCversion ???03:38
DaSkreechkobol: It wasn't a long involved process you added a line to a file :)03:38
DaSkreechkobol: if it makes it easier for the both of you the reconfigure works03:38
osirisBNCanyone please?03:38
DaSkreech!wifi | osirisBNC03:39
ubotuosirisBNC: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:39
kobolDaSkreech, well it was like some command in the terminal that showed exactly what needs to be put there and such? Do you know the command?03:39
DaSkreecherm.. I know the file03:39
DaSkreechkdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:40
kobolNo no, it was like...gtfx or some such, that gave a read out, and all I had to do was copy and paste what it said into xorg.conf03:40
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DaSkreechah then no I don't :)03:41
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kobolDaSkreech: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it is then! XD03:44
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unaffiliateHello friends03:49
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ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:50
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DaSkreechhi nikkiana03:50
lee_wer in creation is the restricted drivers at?03:50
lee_and how di i get per missions to ren my ati script?03:51
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:51
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lee_i mean litteraly wheres my restricted card icon at?03:54
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lee_i mean litteraly wheres my restricted card icon at?03:55
lee_in fiesty? of kunbuntu03:55
stdinhave you looked at the guide?03:56
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halyconhey everyone03:59
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halyconI am attempting to find out what the device identification is for my ATI Remote Wonder, I used the lsusb command and it provided this information Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bc7:0004 X10 Wireless Technology, Inc. X10 Receiver04:03
halyconbut im trying to configure the XMMS IRMan Configuration and it is asking for the Device and the IR Code Length04:03
halyconcan anyone help me out?04:04
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bwaynewhenever I create,copy, or edit a file a backup is also created.  How can I stop this from happening?04:06
jmichaelxis there such a thing as a usb soundcard that works well (or at all) under linux?04:07
bwaynenever heard of a usb soundcard.  USB MIDI, perhaps.04:08
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KeinWhy did Compiz pretty much all but explode the kde window manager?04:11
yoopernate2004so is it easier to switch to kde from gnome or should i just do a complete reinstall if i'm worried about the aps and things like that?04:11
stdinyoopernate2004: you just install "kubuntu-desktop" to get KDE, then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE if you want to remove all Gnome parts04:12
stdinKein: compiz replaced the kde window manager, so it's all compiz there04:12
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tekstacy'lo all04:13
Keinthat sucks ;_;04:13
Keinmy comp is slooooooooow04:13
Keinand it took a performance hit after installing compiz04:13
bwayneKein: what are your comp's specs?04:14
tekstacyHow do I go about backing up the entire system?   I tried to tell keep to backup / but that didn't work.04:14
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Kein1.46 ghz processor, radeon xpress X200M for a graphics card, somewhere around 896 MB of RAM, I think04:14
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yoopernate2004do you have direct rendering enabled on your graphics card?04:15
heinkel_111is the bootlog turned off by default in kubuntu feisty?04:15
kobolDaSkreech: Any ideas about this one? O_O Fixed his resolution, to 1600x1024, and now he says everything is fuzzy and he can't read it? He could see it fine on Windows mind you.04:15
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bwaynetekstacy: when I want to backup *everything*, I boot into a LiveCD or another partition and then tar.bz2 /*.  Though, really, tarring /* like that really isnt' necessary.04:16
tekstacybwayne, thanks, I'll try that04:17
yoopernate2004easiest way to back up everything that i've found is tar -cvjpf backup.tar.bz2 --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/var --exclude=/dev04:17
yoopernate2004then add another --exclude and add the file name04:18
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compilerwriterI am trying to do an rc upgrade to gutsy and am not having much luck.  I can't seem to put my finger on what I am doing wrong.04:18
yoopernate2004what is it telling you?04:19
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compilerwriterI have tried to enable the pre-release in adept-manager and then do the stuff that the website reccomended, but I never seem to get to the version upgrade part of things.04:21
ubuntuodnt send a link as I am relaoding04:21
ubuntuerg its me lee lol04:22
yoopernate2004anyone happen to know if the kubuntu desktop i'm loading is the gutsy one?....or even how i could find out04:23
Jucatoyoopernate2004: "lsb_release -a"04:23
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compilerwriterJucato can you help me step through the rc update to gutsy please I am doing something wrong or missing something and I am getting a wee bit frazzled.04:25
Jucatocompilerwriter: enable recommended and pre-released updates. Fetch Updates, Full Upgrade Apply Changes.04:25
Jucatothen close Adept, then Alt+F2, and enter: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"04:25
DaSkreechkobol: maybe he needs sharper fonts04:27
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compilerwriterNow I am getting somewhere Jucato.  I must have mistyped something in the command.  It worked when cut and pasted yours.04:29
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kobolDaSkreech: Well he says he's got it, just lowered the resolution a bit, and he can see.04:30
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Darkrift412I got a digital concepts cr-70r multi card reader and linux doesnt seem to find it in lsusb, anyone know what i could do to get it working?04:30
DaSkreechkobol: Ok :)04:30
Darkrift412also, witbh it plugged in, lsusb takes like 45 seconds04:31
Dr_WillisDarkrift412 its a usb ca4rd reader?04:31
Darkrift412multi card reader04:31
Darkrift412has 4 slots04:31
compilerwriterJucato I got something about "could not verify the integrity of the update apllication now exiting"04:31
Dr_Willisthats odd..  Not heard of any issues with those befor.04:31
Dr_Willisnow i have seen issues with internal Laptop card readers.. but never external usb ones.04:32
Darkrift412yeah, my internal ones dont work, so i got this one04:32
yoopernate2004you tried the reader in windows by any chance?04:32
Darkrift412i dont have windows :(04:32
yoopernate2004maybe you just got a bum reader?  not likely but possible04:32
Darkrift412only place would be at work, and dont think i can get away with that04:32
Dr_Willistry a gutsy live cd - would be a good test also.04:32
Darkrift412yeah, i thought about that04:33
Darkrift412i wish i had an ide to cf adapter04:33
yoopernate2004hehe...anyone else happen to see that microsoft and best buy are being sued?04:33
Darkrift412i have a nice external usb drive enclosure that would work if i did04:33
Darkrift412no, for what?04:33
Dr_WillisMS being sued is a daily thing.04:33
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DaSkreechcompilerwriter: you did a full upgrade ?04:34
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compilerwriteryes DaSkreech04:38
DaSkreechcompilerwriter: and then the adept_manager --version-upgrade gives you a new button ?04:38
kobolAnyone know why in Adept "Macromedia Flash Player" is greyed out?04:38
letalisis there a way to 'burn' an iso file to a usb flash drive?04:39
DaSkreechok then what happens?04:39
DaSkreechletalis: sure why not04:39
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letalisthe only reason i ask is that you cant use k3b to do it so it must be another way04:40
letalisim just curoius of how it can be accomplished04:40
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compilerwriterDaSkreech I attempted a version upgrade and then the blasted thing said it couldn't verify something and exited.  I tried again and then it said it was downloading and verifying the upgrade tool.04:41
compilerwriterI cancelled that to make sure that I had done the full upgrade thing when you asked and now I am back to the adept thingy.04:42
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holyguyverwhat do I type in fstab to make it always mount & umount a drive in sudo?04:49
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holyguyverardchoille, do you know?04:50
kobolDaSkreech: Do you happen to know why some packages on Adept are grayed out?04:50
kobolDaSkreech: Such as Wine, or Flash Player?04:50
DaSkreech!fstab | holyguyver04:51
ubotuholyguyver: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:51
greencookiesup ya'll04:52
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greencookieI'm a newbie to linux and had a question. It doesnt let my screen go beyond 800X600 how can I change it?04:52
holyguyverwell ubotu,, I am tryiong to go there, but my computer is a bit confused right now for I am on a kubuntu running the xcfe gui so konqueror keeps crashing when I try to open it :-p04:53
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greencookieoh holyguyver do u have another computer u could use to access  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html ?04:55
greencookieEvening melody04:55
sub[t] rnl!Resolution | greencookie04:55
ubotugreencookie: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:55
holyguyvernaw, I finally got it to work greencookie :-p04:56
greencookieawesome holyguyver. now if only I could get my video card to work as it should on my box.04:56
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greencookiesub[t] rnl:  I think its problem with my video card..04:56
holyguyverno I didn't get that to work, I got konqueror to disply the page, that si what I got to work04:57
greencookieLol.. at least you're one step ahead now ;)04:57
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok04:57
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holyguyvernot really for it is already under user & it is acting like as if under nouser04:57
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greencookieCan someone help me with my video card driver?04:58
greencookieand my internet wireless adapter driver.04:58
holyguyverSo will someone help me?!04:58
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greencookieit seems I can't connect to wpa connections04:58
lee986321ok once this programs done up dating, i ll up grade..04:59
holyguyvermy question was & still is what do I put into fstab to make it mount & umount a drive under sudo04:59
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lee986321eh i think i have the 64 bit on unbuntu on the hdd not sure05:00
DaSkreechholyguyver: that page shuld help you lots05:00
holyguyverwell it doesnt05:00
DaSkreech!wpa | greencookie05:01
ubotugreencookie: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:01
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lee986321eh wheres that page that tels us how to setup the ati drivers at?05:01
holyguyverDaSkreech just ask archoille, this is not your average hhd :p05:01
lee986321or whats the comand line?05:01
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:02
lee986321ahh ther it is lol05:02
DaSkreechholyguyver: can You mount it?05:02
DaSkreechdoh :)05:02
holyguyveryes, but only as sudo05:02
greencookiebingo thats what i needed ubotu thanks!05:02
DaSkreechholyguyver: that's fine05:02
holyguyvermeaning I can only mount it from within konsol05:03
DaSkreechholyguyver: Whats the command ?05:03
holyguyverBut I want it to mount automaticly05:03
greencookieGuys when I try to enable the ati restricted driver module X fails to load.. . :(05:03
holyguyverthe cammand is sudo mount /dev/sda105:03
greencookieATI accelerated graphics driver05:03
DaSkreechholyguyver: can you paste bin your fstab file ?05:04
DaSkreechgreencookie: how are you enabling ?05:04
greencookiefrom system>restricted drivers. Then there's only one item there that is the ATI accelerated graphics driver and its state is "not enabled"05:05
greencookie"not in use"*05:05
greencookiewhen i try to enable the driver i get kicked to terminal ... and the only way i got my GUI back is by reinstalling05:06
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greencookiewhen I lspci i get "1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71a7"05:06
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holyguyverDaSkreech here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40763/05:08
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greencookieok can u guys gimme the command to reset windowsX if it crashes and i can't log in?05:09
greencookieim gonna try the restricted drivers again.05:09
DaSkreechgreencookie: Alt+ctrl+BkSpc05:10
ksivajijay  hi05:10
DaSkreechgreencookie: you crash X a lot ?05:10
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ksivajijay type "sudo apt-get install gcc g++"05:10
greencookieonly when I enable the accelerated ati driver.05:10
DaSkreechgreencookie: ok I was going to show you how to get here with no X05:10
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greencookieI wanna try05:10
greencookiehow do i get to u with no x05:11
greencookieI know about ctrl+alt+f105:11
greencookieand ctrl+alt+f705:11
DaSkreechgreencookie: Right install irssi05:11
DaSkreech!info inrissi05:11
ubotuPackage inrissi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:11
DaSkreech!info irissi05:11
ubotuPackage irissi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:11
DaSkreech!info irssi05:11
greencookiesudo apt-get irssi05:11
DaSkreechI'm an idiot :)05:11
ubotuirssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB05:11
lee986321eh guys i thbik i have a winner..how can i tell what version is running on a hdd?05:11
DaSkreechgreencookie: yes05:11
greencookierofl..no ure a real nice guy for helping me out.05:12
jayReading package lists... Done05:12
jayBuilding dependency tree... Done05:12
holyguyverDaSkreech, did you take a look at my pastebin?05:12
jayE: Couldn't find package gcc05:12
DaSkreechlee986321: /path/to/lsb_release -a ?05:12
DaSkreech!b-e | jay05:12
ubotujay: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:12
lee986321ah ok05:12
greencookiesudo apt-get irssi?05:12
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ksivajiDaSkreech ubuntu is  new  for him05:12
greencookieI'm getting an error saying invalid operation05:13
greencookieyep ksivaji im new to ubuntu:)05:13
DaSkreechgreencookie: sudo apt-get install irssi05:13
ksivajijay which version of ubuntu you have05:13
greencookieoh thanks DaSkreech.05:13
DaSkreechholyguyver: And that doesn't mount on boot?05:13
ksivajijay 7.04 or 6.1005:13
holyguyverO hi :p05:14
holyguyverno it does not mount, I told you it was a special hhd :p05:14
DaSkreechwhen you ls /mnt/sda1 it doesn't exist?05:14
jaykubuntu v 6.06 lts it is a live cd but i installed the os05:14
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greencookieDaSkreech:  im getting05:14
greencookieE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:14
greencookieE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:14
DaSkreechgreencookie: you have  adept open ?05:14
ksivajijay ok wait05:14
holyguyverit does exist & it does mount, but only if I go into konsal05:14
greencookieDaSkreech: whats adept? sorry:(05:15
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:15
DaSkreechgreencookie: are you installing something somewhere else?05:15
greencookieDaSkreech: Doh! yes. im updating:)05:15
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto05:15
greencookieI guess ill wait for it to finish05:16
DaSkreechgreencookie: okie :)05:16
greencookieI'm loving linux!05:16
DaSkreechgreencookie: read up in the meantime^^^05:16
greencookieand gnome:D05:16
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holyguyverhe must be on ubuntu05:16
greencookiei hate KDE05:16
greencookiefull of bugs:)05:16
holyguyverthis is #kubuntu05:16
tazz^ troll05:16
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greencookiei think05:16
jaywhat to do05:17
greencookieis there a #ubuntu?05:17
greencookiebut no one in channel:( hehe05:17
holyguyverI am using kubuntu with xfce though so :p05:17
greencookiewhats xfce05:17
DaSkreechgreencookie: Are you serious? its the bigest channel on the server05:17
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels05:18
ksivajijay    press alt+f2 "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"05:18
greencookieDaSkreech:  my bad i went into #ubuntu? and not #ubuntu . silly '?' makr05:18
DaSkreechgreencookie: Ha ha :)05:18
greencookieo i got in:(05:18
greencookiethanks Da05:19
DaSkreechgreencookie: Sure05:19
greencookielater all you kubunts! im going to ubunt05:19
hydrogen__hmm.. should NetGear 111vv2 wireless usb adaptor work fine with WPA?05:19
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greencookieHydrogen: i got same prob:)05:19
jaywhat to do next05:19
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Hydrogengreencookie: :/05:20
holyguyverso anyway DaSkreech figure out what I should put into it yet? :-p05:20
DaSkreechgreencookie: Bye! When you brown out a bit we'll welcome you back! :)05:20
HydrogenI suppose I could bust out the ndiswrapper leet skillz05:20
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: yo05:20
greencookieDaSkreech: sure. whats "brown out"? sorry not american:(05:20
DaSkreechholyguyver: can You check your dmesg for anything to do with sda1 ?05:20
DaSkreechgreencookie: You are a green cookie. I guess you need to ripen some more :)05:20
holyguyverwhat is dmesg?05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:21
DaSkreechholyguyver: It's the log of what the kernel is doing on boot05:21
DaSkreechholyguyver: type dmesg | grep sda at the command line05:21
holyguyverI don't need to see it, I know what it is doing, I have read it many times05:21
DaSkreechAh wha'ts the error05:21
tazzi want to upgrade to gutsy, but i am on a dogy 64 kbps connection and i have to download ~950 Mb of pakages. What would you suggest as the best way to go forward.05:21
jayshivaji u there05:21
ksivajijay yes one sec05:22
holyguyverit can't boot that drive because I do not have the privliges & must run it root, it says05:22
ksivaji6.60 is edgy or dapper05:22
CPrgmSwR2DaSkreech: hey05:22
greencookieDaSkreech: haha ok gotya. btw if u eat dem greencookies ull be in jolly good mood:0 before I leave lemme show u something:05:22
greencookie!offtopic |Daskreech05:22
ubotuDaskreech: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:22
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the 5th release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes05:22
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DaSkreechholyguyver: the only thing the kernel can run as is root05:22
ubotudapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".05:22
DaSkreechholyguyver: that can't be right05:22
jayi dont know05:23
CPrgmSwR2DaSkreech: gentoo started giving me kde4 problems so I switched to kubuntu05:23
holyguyverI know, but that is what happens :-p05:23
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DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: Ah :-) may want to hit #kubuntu-devel to find out about the latest Beta3 packages05:23
Hydrogenthis is a fun adventure05:24
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holyguyverI need to have it say something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ntfs-3g rw,user,defaults,force 0 0" in fstab apperantly, but in proper sentex05:24
Hydrogenmy only way of easily accessing the internet from my other box is via wireless05:24
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ksivajijay are you there05:24
Hydrogenhowever although kubuntu recognizes my wireless, it won't do anything with it05:24
Hydrogenand I can't install wine to run the installer and extract the necessary files05:24
ksivajijay    press alt+f2 "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"  have you done this05:24
ksivajijay do you have a text file05:25
holyguyverDaSkreecch, you reading me?05:25
DaSkreechholyguyver: yeah05:25
ksivajisave that file with some other name because you are going to edit that file now05:25
KDEfanboyhow do i find out what options the packaged kernel is compiled with? specifically i'm looking for low latency CONFIG_HZ_1000 and preemption for optimal performance for whte Enemy Territory: Quake Wars demo that was released today05:26
ksivajijay take a backup05:26
DaSkreechholyguyver: try taking out defaults05:26
DaSkreech!wifi | Hydrogen05:26
ubotuHydrogen: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:26
holyguyverDaSkreech, I tried that two hours ago, it did not help.05:26
ksivajijay come to #offline (click here)05:26
HydrogenDaSkreech: if I hadn't already been there and found that my device "works fine" I'd say thank you..05:26
DaSkreechHydrogen: Soooo instead you'll say.... ? :)05:27
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Hydrogenhow the eff do I fix it?05:27
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holyguyverDaSkreech, then as I said that page about fstab that you made ubotu say is helpless for my situation.05:28
CPrgmSwR2DaSkreech: odd, kde4 beta3 didn't install right05:28
alex_fast forwarding in kaffeine causes my desktop to lock up, any ideas?05:28
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: Ah :-) may want to hit #kubuntu-devel to find out about the latest Beta3 packages ;-)05:28
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DaSkreechHydrogen: you ran through troubleshooting ?05:28
HydrogenDaSkreech: yes.  Its the driver that sucks.05:28
DaSkreechholyguyver: What's the exact error from dmesg /05:28
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holyguyverDaSkreech, as I said you could ask ardchoille, he would tell you that everyone agrees, my external hhd is no ordinary harddrive, it is crazy :p05:29
tonyoalguien de mexicooooooooooo???????????05:30
DaSkreech!es | tonyo05:30
ubotutonyo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:30
tonyoI did't ask 4 help, just wanted to know if any mexican was connected xD05:32
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tonyobut thanx05:32
DaSkreechtonyo: Yes but this is the english channel :)05:33
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tonyoI just never saw that restriction, but i'll search for it05:33
holyguyverDaSkreech , here is what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40764/05:34
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ksivaji   jay     http://pastebin.com/m604a744205:35
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CPrgmSwR2Has anyone else been able to get kde4-beta3 to work?05:36
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ksivajijay are you there ?05:38
holyguyverSo DaSkreech , I suposed it would be "Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 786433"05:39
CPrgmSwR2where can I download libkpty05:39
DaSkreech!find libkpty05:39
DaSkreechholyguyver: Where are you getting that?05:40
ubotuPackage/file libkpty does not exist in feisty05:40
holyguyverI should you the pastebin already that has it05:40
DaSkreechholyguyver: Oh right :)05:40
ksivajijay http://pastebin.com/m604a744205:40
CPrgmSwR2No wonder beta3 doesn't work05:40
DaSkreechholyguyver: May want to run fsck on the drive05:41
holyguyverwhy would that make a differeance on my privilges?05:41
holyguyverThe drive works05:41
holyguyverI can readf & write to the files just fione05:42
DaSkreechholyguyver: Yeah true05:42
holyguyverDaSkreech , I can already read & write to the files just fine, the only problem is it will not let me mount & umount it unless I go into konsal & type in "sudo mount (or umount) /dev/sda1"05:44
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DaSkreechholyguyver: but if it mounts with that it should mount on boot05:45
holyguyverbut it doesn't because it says that I do not have the privliges to mount or unmount it05:45
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DaSkreechholyguyver: can you change user to users ?05:46
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holyguyverin fstab?05:46
holyguyverbut the proper cammand is user05:46
seanixhi :)05:46
ksivaji Jucato :hi05:47
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CPrgmSwR2Jucato: hey have you been able to get beta3 to work of kde4?05:47
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JucatoCPrgmSwR2: from svn? yep05:48
DaSkreechholyguyver: Yeah but I wanna see05:48
CPrgmSwR2from kubuntu packages though?05:48
Jucatome? hero? lol no05:48
JucatoCPrgmSwR2: nope... I almost never use our kde4 packs :)05:48
holyguyvercuriosity killed the cat DaSkreech :-p05:48
xeviousi'll use kde4 when it's good and ready05:48
seanixanyone running 7.10 RC?05:49
CPrgmSwR2xevious: I have already fallen in love with kde405:49
ksivajiseanix #ubuntu+1 for 7.1005:49
xeviousCPrgmSwR2: i bet i will too05:49
seanixahhh ok, thanks :)05:49
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holyguyverwell DaSkreeck, here is what it said "unable to mount"05:53
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holyguyverDaSkreech *05:53
mimmuzzoitaliano ?05:54
Jucato!it | mimmuzzo05:54
ubotumimmuzzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:54
mimmuzzograzie a te05:54
Hydrogenthats remarkable05:54
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Hydrogenthe windows drivers through ndiswrapper perform worse than the linux drivers05:55
holyguyvermay I change it back to no s now DaSkreech? :-p05:55
DaSkreechholyguyver: Sure :)05:55
DaSkreechJucato: find the error in this line05:56
DaSkreech /etc/fstab:-> /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ntfs-3g rw,user,defaults,force 0 005:56
Jucatowhat error is it giving?05:57
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DaSkreechmust be root to mount05:57
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DaSkreechMe either but it's apparently giving this on boot05:57
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DaSkreechCause you know the kernel normally runs as an unprivileged user ....05:58
Zyklon-BIs there anything like test-repository for Kubuntu... if you have the addresses I would like to know05:58
DaSkreechWhatdoes a test repo do?05:59
xeviousJucato: we can pipe things to users through ubotu? cool!05:59
Jucatoxevious: yep.since looooong ago :)05:59
Zyklon-Busuall test-repo has the latest version of the programs05:59
DaSkreech!coc | xevious No we can't stop saying that05:59
ubotuxevious No we can't stop saying that: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/05:59
xeviousJucato: i'm relatively new here05:59
Jucatoyou can also redirect ( > ) so that it PM's the factoid05:59
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Jucato!bot > xevious05:59
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xeviousJucato: cool. thanks06:00
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holyguyverso jucato , have anything ti say to what DaSkreech said about my harddrive? :-p06:00
Jucatoholyguyver: not a clue. sorry06:00
Jucatowhat does the wiki say?06:01
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:01
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g0dd3sshai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??06:01
holyguyverAre you supposed to be reading that wiki or I jucato? because I read that last month :-p06:01
Jucatoum... you should... maybe it has been updated? dunno... 1) I don't mount my NTFS and 2) I suck at fstab/mount06:02
holyguyverJucato it has nothing to do with that ntfs-3g is working as it should, the problem does not lie there, but in the fstab06:03
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stdinit does, "umask=0000" (tho I think "fmask=111,dmask=000" is better)06:04
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holyguyverwell then you read it & see if your hunch is right, for if it does, what makes you think that what my fstab has is any different then what they suggest, jacuto?06:04
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jimmacdonaldlots of nividia problems?06:04
=== Jucato doesn't have X right now... so reading links is kinda difficult
DaSkreechw3m ?06:05
Jucatoyes but I would still have to type in the link manually right?06:05
Goop2I have a quick question about sound in wine06:05
holyguyverwell I promise you my stab says exactly what the ntfs-3g website told me to put jucato06:05
stdinJucato: gpm ftw06:05
stdinJucato: lets you use your mouse to copy/paste in a console06:06
Jucatojust too sick today to do that right now06:07
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holyguyverSo jucato, since that is the case, try another suggestion :-p06:07
Jucatoso if that's the case, I don't have any other suggestion06:07
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holyguyveryou was sick last week too jucato, what ills you? you wouldn't tell me last time :(06:08
Jucatolast week? can't recall. this time, asthma06:08
ksivajii know user name password of system with ip ,still i cant login because telnet and ssh says connection timedout ,but i can ping works06:08
ksivajiis there anyother way to login06:08
holyguyveryes jucato, a week or two or three ago you said you had a bad day that you didn't want to talk about, that you was very ill.06:09
Jucatonah that was just me having a bad day :)06:09
jimmacdonaldis anyone else having problems with nvidia cards after the update?06:10
holyguyver& jucato that time that I was in two or three weeks ago, it was with a problem with this same drive :-p06:10
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holyguyverjucato this drive is a nightmare, no one, has been able to figure it out all this month06:11
holyguyverI finally got it working 3 nights ago, but only through konsal under sudo06:12
holyguyverit doesn't seem logical to have to go into konsal & type in sudo mount & sudo umount every time06:13
truthanyone mind helping me setup a network? i'm running kubuntu on this one, and xp on the other computer06:14
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Goop2anybody know why a game in wine wouldnt give any sound output?06:14
holyguyver& every time I talk about cracking kde && running permanitly as root all the admins get mad at me :-p LoL06:14
holyguyverI meant kubuntu not kde06:15
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xeviousholyguyver: don't do that!06:15
sd32which players play divx?06:15
xeviousholyguyver: bad! shame on you!06:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:15
Goop2I would love to run under root all the time06:16
xeviousGoop2: check the winehq appdb. www.winehq.org06:16
holyguyverjucato you reading me? LoL :-p06:16
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Goop2xevious: I checked and RollerCoaster Tycoon is rated gold06:16
holyguyverXevious, so I was not lieing about the admins getting mad when I say that :-p06:16
xeviousholyguyver, Goop2: http://www.ists.dartmouth.edu/classroom/topten-noroot.v8.php06:17
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:17
truthanyone have any experience using samba?06:17
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holyguyverxevious, I know not to want to run as root all the time, it is obvious you came into my conversation at the wrong time :-p06:18
hdevalenceIf I wante dto display line 60 of file foobar, what program would I use?06:18
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CPrgmSwR2is there a way to install the latest drivers for fglrx06:19
xeviousholyguyver: that link's pretty funny, anyway: 7  The security permissions are designed to make your day as frustrating as possible.06:19
truthdoes anyone know where the kubuntu help channel moved to?06:19
holyguyvertruth it is here06:19
Goop2I dont do that sort of thing though06:20
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Goop2I just want it for icons and things :\06:20
holyguyversee truth , we helped you admit to being as smart ass :-p06:21
Goop2I just open konqueror in root though06:21
truthvery clever06:21
Goop2that woorks06:21
truthi'm trying to setup a home network. kubuntu and xp06:22
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Goop2install kubuntu over XP06:22
Goop2that should work06:22
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: Go to ATI's site and get them06:22
holyguyverhere you go here is the kubuntu answer to that truth xp is from ms & ms is the devil, stay away from it :-p06:22
truthGoop2, if it was up to me, xp wouldn't exist in my home06:22
CPrgmSwR2DaSkreech: I have never had luck with that method06:22
DaSkreechtruth: what are you trying to do06:23
DaSkreech!ati | CPrgmSwR206:23
ubotuCPrgmSwR2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:23
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truthsetup home network where i have access to all files on the xp machine, and be able to use the printer setup on the xp machine06:23
krisHi. Is the name of the default sound device in Ubuntu /dev/dsp?06:23
Goop2truth: Same here. My brother just got vista though, so I have to dodge the demons every time I go to that side of the building06:23
DaSkreechtruth: try smb:/ in konqueror06:24
DaSkreech!cups | truth06:24
ubotutruth: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:24
holyguyvergoop2 install kubuntu over his visa in the middle of the night ;-)06:24
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Goop2holyguyver: I would, but then he would install MS DOS over my Kubuntu06:25
xeviousinstall plan9 on it06:25
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xeviousor openstep06:25
xeviousopenstep is sweet06:25
truthDaScreech: what about.... samba? all the things i've read said to use that06:25
DaSkreechOr haiku!06:25
xevioustruth: smb:/ accesses the samba network06:26
holyguyverGoop2 how about you install kubuntu over his vista in the middle of the night & install a vista clone kde skin into it so he can't tell the differance, after all windows people are stupid enough to fall for that ;)06:26
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DaSkreechtruth: Let me see if I understand You want the Linux box to be able to see the files on the Windows XP box over shared folders ?06:26
DaSkreechholyguyver: Hey that's not nice06:26
truthUnable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall.06:26
DaSkreechHa ha :)06:27
xeviousyeah. a vista theme and compiz and you'd probably fool them06:27
DaSkreechtruth: try smb:/ip.of.xp.computer06:27
DaSkreechtill he fires up COD06:27
truthyes exactly. and also be able to use the printer that is installed on xp06:27
aqejhello there06:27
DaSkreechtruth: right the CUPS page should help you setup to point at the network printer06:28
DaSkreech!hi | aqej06:28
ubotuaqej: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:28
aqejdo I need a high memory card to run compiz-fusion?06:28
Goop2holyguyver: I dont think it would work.. Ill just dodge the demons06:28
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DaSkreechaqej: High memory card ?06:28
g0dd3sshai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??06:29
DaSkreechLike above slot 3 on the motherboard ?06:29
truthTimeout on server06:29
aqeji mean like a 256MB graphics card?06:29
DaSkreechg0dd3ss: Where?06:29
DaSkreechtruth: do you have folders shared on the XP box ?06:29
Goop2g0dd3ss: as a temperary fix you could use Kdocker06:29
truth90% sure. let me double check. brb06:30
DaSkreechaqej: My friend runs it on a 64 Meg Geforce 2 MX if that helps06:30
aqejI have a 128MB card now but compiz keeps crashing...06:30
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DaSkreechaqej: try in #ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion06:30
g0dd3ssDaSkreech, well it just opens in a little window in the top left corner, i would try to uninstall it and get something else but i dont really know what it's called, is there a way i can find out?06:30
DaSkreechprobably kpowermanager06:31
aqejcompiz is still very unstable....06:31
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aqejok thanks...06:31
DaSkreechaqej: agreed. It's near alpha stage06:31
holyguyverGoop2 don't feel bad, my mother just bought a vista to replace the kubuntu computer I gave her :(06:31
Goop2holyguyver: ouch06:32
DaSkreechSo did mine!06:32
holyguyverdoouble ouch for us both then :-p06:32
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xeviousmy mom runs qnx06:33
truthDaSkreech: Yes, there's shared folders06:33
Goop2well Ill be buying a mac to replace my moms XP, so I guess its not all bad06:33
DaSkreechtruth: And a firewall I'm guessing?06:33
xeviousno that was a lie06:33
truthturned off06:34
DaSkreechtruth: Wait turned off?06:34
DaSkreechtruth: zone alarm ?06:34
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truthwindows firewall06:34
holyguyverGoop2 I think mac is almost as bad as MS after all they are closed source too06:34
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simon__hi: someone please help with java issue and firefox06:35
Goop2I already replaced her powerpoint with open office, and put all her sound in winamp, and video in VLC06:35
truthThis computer and the other has the same ip06:35
keith__finally I have kde4-beta3 working !!!06:35
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DaSkreechtruth: What? virtual machine ?06:35
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DaSkreechhi CPrgmSwR206:35
truthvirtual machine...?06:35
CPrgmSwR2DaSkreech: hi06:35
DaSkreechtruth: how do you have the same IP?06:35
holyguyverGoop2 why not just get her a feebsd then?06:36
truthno idea...06:36
CPrgmSwR2how do I search apt-get using the command line06:36
truthboth computers are hooked to the same router06:36
Goop2I dont have experience with that06:36
holyguyverGoop2 it is what mac osx is based on...or is that netbsd, I can't remember which.06:37
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DaSkreechtruth: DHCP ?06:37
ubotudhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP06:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:37
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holyguyverwow ubotu doesn't know about bsd :-p06:37
xeviousfigures :D06:37
truthI don't know....06:38
xeviousholyguyver: osx runs darwin which is a mach kernel, similar to bsd06:38
DaSkreechtruth: Did you put in a IP or did the computer just get one ?06:38
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truthDaSkreech: btw, i'm relatively new to linux06:38
DaSkreechtruth: No problem06:38
DaSkreechtruth: Ah! I see :)06:38
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holyguyverxevious, but wasn't their an opendarwin project at one time? :)06:38
xeviousholyguyver: there sure was.06:39
DaSkreechgo to the windows Xp box. If you have a network icon in the system tray double click it and then click on details06:39
DaSkreechYou should see an IP address there06:39
holyguyverso see he shhould get his mother a pc with opendarwin on it instead of a mac :-p06:39
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ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:40
bobzombieokay who has kde4 working under gutsy as a testing environment?06:40
xeviousholyguyver: there's no graphical interface in opendarwin06:40
bobzombiethe topic instructions don't work06:40
DaSkreechbobzombie: gutsy questions are in #ubuntu+106:40
bobzombiejust curious if there is an alternate method06:40
holyguyveror else get his mom kubuntu with a osx clone kde skin on it :-p06:41
truthheh.... wow... i shoulda known to check that06:41
DaSkreechtruth: try smb:/with.that.ip.instead06:41
truthat least i don't pay too much for car insurance06:41
DaSkreechThank you progrssive06:41
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Goop2holyguyver: well no, I was getting it for myself, its just going to take over everything hers does06:41
holyguyverGoop2 why through out kubuntu for osx?06:42
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Goop2I have kubuntu on my desktop06:42
Goop2I just bought a 500gig hard drive too06:42
Zickssomeone please help with java06:42
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DaSkreechZicks: Sup ?06:42
Goop2but I want a laptop, and I like the macbooks06:42
truthSame thing again.... except this time it took much longer before it told me06:42
holyguyvergoop2, get a macbook & install kubuntu onto it :-p06:43
DaSkreechthat's funky06:43
DaSkreech!info smb4k06:43
ubotusmb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-1build1 (feisty), package size 1762 kB, installed size 3756 kB06:43
Goop2holyguyver: well I probabally will06:43
DaSkreechtruth: install that ^^^06:43
holyguyverGoop2 :-D Yay!! :)06:43
Goop2holyguyver: brb, I have a home security thing screeching in my ear06:44
truthk. brb06:44
sd32help, my shut down button has dissapeared!!06:44
holyguyversd32, unplug it (j/k)06:44
sd32is there any way to fix it?06:45
sd32thats what i have to do now06:45
Goop2holyguyver: I would still dual boot, but I would probabally have Linux on it06:45
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utnubuk_the 7.10 cd wont work on my laptop - I see the mouse cursor appear a couple of times but then the screen flashes and I see "* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)   [OK] " and the computer just sits there doing nothing06:45
utnubuk_that was in safe graphics mode by the way06:45
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utnubuk_I can ctrl-alt whatever into other shells, but no desktop/06:46
DaSkreechsd32: When did it disappear?06:46
Goop2oh sweet I got the sound working in wine06:46
Goop2now I can play my game!06:46
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holyguyversd32, I believe you can re-add the shut down button, but I am in xfce right now & thus can not help you out with kde at the moment, sorry06:47
sd32daskreechabout a month ago06:47
ZicksHow can I download and install java runtime for firefox --- Please someone help06:47
truthDaSkreech: Finished and open.06:47
DaSkreechtruth: can You connect to the XP machine ?06:47
Goop2ttyl peeps!06:47
bobzombieZicks from the repos06:47
DaSkreech!java | Zicks06:47
ubotuZicks: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:47
bobzombieZicks apt-cache search java06:47
bobzombieinstall the sun java binaries and you are done06:47
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Zicksthanks I will try now06:47
DaSkreechZicks: do you know how to enable multiverse ?06:48
holyguyverso DaSkreech, any ideas what I can do to get it to mount?06:48
DaSkreech!multiverse | Zicks06:48
ubotuZicks: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:48
DaSkreechholyguyver: It should be mounting already Without more info I'm not sure06:49
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holyguyverI am going to call it a night ttyl06:49
DaSkreechholyguyver: Night hope you get that sorted06:50
sd32how would i re-add the shut down button?06:50
truthI hit scan network and nothing came up06:50
sd32ilost my shut down button06:50
truthI went to Mount Manually... it asked for Share:       IP:         and Workgroup:06:51
sd32it must have wandered off with those hippies:)06:51
DaSkreechShare: folder name IP: IP address Workgroup: Work group name06:51
agent9wahha kony06:52
chayasl pls06:52
DaSkreech!caps | chay06:52
ubotuchay: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.06:52
truthThe input of the share is wrong. It must have the form //HOST/SHARE.06:52
DaSkreechsd32: How do you shutdown now?06:52
DaSkreechtruth: Ah right06:52
sd32pull the plug06:52
utnubuk_i did startx in another bash thing and then looked at the logs, it got (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable06:52
Dr_Willistry 'sudo halt' :)06:52
utnubuk_does that have something to do with my problem possibly?06:53
sd32dr willis, thanks06:53
utnubuk_and a bunch of errors on the touchpad06:53
agent9san na?06:53
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chaydito ko06:54
chaychat na tayo06:54
ZicksI dont have software preferences -- where can i instal it?06:55
truthNone of that is working06:55
utnubuk_im using the latest 7.10 iso and it's not working on a laptop that is only a year old.... what gives??06:55
utnubuk_previous versions worked06:55
sd32is there anyway to get the shut down button back without reinstalling?06:55
chayandami namang epal dito06:55
agent9oo nga eh06:56
agent9mga  genius06:56
agent9shut up!06:56
chayenglish talaga06:56
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl06:56
agent9oo nga06:56
chaynasa ibang dimension tayo06:56
agent9nakaktawa cla06:56
chaynababasa kaya nila to06:56
agent9 malamang06:56
Dr_Willissd32 which shutdown button? reisntalling to get a button back is 'windows thinking'06:56
DaSkreechagent9, chay: This is an english channel06:56
chayoh ok06:57
chayim sorry06:57
sd32dr willis, on the logout screen06:57
DaSkreechchay: What language is that ?06:57
ubotuAIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl06:57
ZicksDaSkreech : More help please .... I dont have Software Properties option, do I install it ?06:57
agent9install it06:57
DaSkreechZicks: what version of kubuntu are you on?06:57
chayprolixus version06:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about preinit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:58
melkor__How do I configure xorg.  I don't have a 'screen' on my new laptop06:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:58
chaynose bleed06:58
agent9buy new06:58
Dr_Willissd32 should be a kdm/gdm setting.  if its missing.   if you are refering to the USERS logoiut screen.. If using KDE and KDM you will see different options - then ifyou were using GDM and KDE.06:58
agent9oo nga06:58
agent9mukha sila tanga no?06:58
DaSkreechZicks: When you go to adept -> manage repos what do you see ?06:58
chayulol pla sila dito eh06:58
Dr_Willissd32 or ya can always hit alt-ctrl-backspace, - then alt-ctrl delete real fast. :)06:58
ZicksIm installing adept now, It wasnt on before06:59
chaybaka matulungan nila tayo06:59
Daisuke-Idoall i wanna do is adjust my froggin fan speed :\06:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tgl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:59
chaymagtanong ka06:59
utnubuk_where can I get an old tribe4 image????06:59
Daisuke-Ido!en | chay06:59
ubotuchay: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat06:59
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DaSkreechZicks: are you on ubuntu or kubuntu ?06:59
sd32dr willis thats confusing:/06:59
Daisuke-Idoutnubuk_: why would you want one?06:59
DaSkreechZicks: Oh never mind then06:59
chaysan ka na06:59
truthArg..... no luck.06:59
chaywag ka umalis] 07:00
Dr_Willissd32 its trivial.. IF you are using KDE then use KDM as your login manager. If using GNOME mainly then use gdm.07:00
agent9binbsa ko07:00
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utnubuk_Daisuke-Ido: the latest 7.10 cd wont work, tribe 4 will I want to upgrade from there07:00
truthMaybe something isnt setup correctly on the xp machine07:00
Daisuke-Idoenglish only in here.07:00
agent9dito nga lng07:00
Dr_Willissd32 if you get the 2  mixxed up - you wont get all the 'logout' optiions07:00
sd32dr willis, gotcha, thanks07:00
chayleche ung daisuke na un ah\07:00
utnubuk_Daisuke-Ido: any ideas?07:00
DaSkreechZicks: Why didn't you ask for help in #ubuntu ?07:00
DaSkreech!ph | agent9, chay07:00
Dr_Willissd32 or use the halt command. :) or any of a dozen other ways.07:00
ubotuagent9, chay: Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog07:00
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Daisuke-Idoutnubuk_: wait 3 days?07:00
agent9bet namen pake mu07:01
chayepal sila07:01
utnubuk_Daisuke-Ido: pfff okay, what happens in 3 days?07:01
chaypinapalayas na nila tayo07:01
sd32dr willis, so using the gnome login is messing me up?07:01
Daisuke-Idofinal release07:01
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Dr_Willissd32 if you are using GDM and KDE - YES. it will not show all the options.. plain and simple. :)07:01
robchay, please cut that out :)07:01
Dr_Willissd32 change them and see.07:01
utnubuk_how do I know it will work for me?07:01
agent9weeeeeeeee patawa ung rob kalbo07:02
sd32dr willis, thanks07:02
robagent9, english please07:02
chaybago lang sya dito ha07:02
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!07:02
agent9paki mu rob07:02
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Daisuke-Idoutnubuk_: if the live cd doesn't, use the alternate cd07:02
truthDaSkreech: IP address IS assigned by DHCP. (i dont know if this is causing a problem)07:02
DaSkreechtruth: no that's fine07:02
DaSkreechtruth: if it was and both had the same IP address that would be worrying but it's ok07:03
Dr_Willisnight all.....07:03
truthMaybe I am partial.... but i think problem is with xp07:03
Daisuke-Idolittle music, time for sleep07:03
DaSkreechtruth: I'd probably say so as well but still lets try and see if We can fingure it out07:03
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Daisuke-Idogot 3 of the 5 pages for my analysis of SCOTUS's 1973 abortion decision :\07:04
DaSkreechchay: We don't have a problem with you being here. If you want to speak in tagalog please join #ubuntu-ph07:04
chaythis is the brand new chay, welcome me back rob!07:04
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DaSkreechthis is an english channel and we are trying to help people the less distraction we have the better07:04
chayi need help as well07:05
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DaSkreechchay: fine. Ask for it in a language we can follow in07:05
DaSkreechenglish in here tagalog in #ubuntu-ph07:06
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truthboth pc's are on a wired connection to the same router07:06
truththrough a hub07:06
chaymi nombre es elena, bente uno, mula sa mexico07:06
DaSkreechtruth: you have ever connected another machine to those shares ?07:06
robchay, #ubuntu-ph please07:07
chaysi senor07:07
chaymi a latina07:07
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robthanks stdin :D07:07
jdongmeh I prefer that rosetta stuff for learning new languages07:08
stdinrob: np :)07:08
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Nebulardoes anyone here know much about the analog kernel module. I need to manually map the buttons and axis of my gamepad, it says you should be able to do that but I can't figure it out07:09
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Nebularvery little on the web on it07:09
DaSkreechjdong: Ouch Like pain?07:09
jdongDaSkreech: si senior :)07:10
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truthI'm making 0 progress with this.07:14
truthcompletely stumped07:15
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josephCan anybody tell me what I get a usb hard drive to work in kde it works fine in Gnome07:18
bobzombiewhere is the kde session manager so i can add startup items for my session?07:19
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DaSkreechtruth: Turn the firewall on and make sure it allows windows shares ?07:20
sub[t] rnlbobzombie: kstart->system settings->advanced->Session manager configures sessions.  But to auto start apps you can make a sym link to them in ~/.kde/Autostart07:21
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sub[t] rnl!autostart07:23
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.07:23
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melkor__Well shit, I entered some things and it works, now I run gnome I guess07:24
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.07:25
sub[t] rnldon't let stdin catch you cursing melkor. :P07:25
sub[t] rnlor DaSckreech!07:25
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blackhandman o man.... I am loving this OS.07:25
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sub[t] rnlblackhand: good to hear07:26
DaSkreechHe said run *bleep* stdin! get him!!07:26
melkor__I got a little excited07:26
DaSkreechmelkor__: Were you trying to run gnome?07:26
bobzombieyou mean kde doesn't have a gui sessio nmanager?07:26
DaSkreechblackhand: how long have you been using it?07:26
bobzombiei find that hard to believe, i thought i saw on ein an earlier version07:26
blackhandMy first day...07:27
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blackhandI loaded this on the PC and Mandriva on the laptop.07:27
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DaSkreechblackhand: Welcome to Kubuntu!!07:27
blackhandthank you!07:27
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DaSkreechBoy if you love it now I don't know how you are going to feel in a year!07:28
DaSkreechright after the whole I hate this OS phase :)07:28
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DaSkreechhi nixternal07:28
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truthi give up for now07:29
melkor__DaSkreech I installed it from a kubuntu cd, same one this is running07:29
truthty for the ideas DaSkreech07:29
blackhandI just wanted to rid myself of Windows once and for all...07:29
blackhandSmooth transition so far.07:30
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DaSkreechtruth: ok you can read up on cups for the printing07:30
truthblackhand: Welcome to the revolution07:30
DaSkreech!cups > truth07:30
wastedfluidhey guys - when you're playing with a theme in the theme manager.. what option is the color of applications in your taskbar tht are minimized/inactive?  I can't find it.07:31
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BlackHandOff to bed... thank's for the welcome.07:32
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kristjan_is kde-look.org down?07:37
kristjan_do they have irc channel?07:37
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DaSkreechProbably not kristjan_07:40
kristjan_DaSkreech: do you remember what was the biggest wallpaper size there?07:41
DaSkreechfreaking big ?07:41
kristjan_oh wait, I could browse offline if I knew where that config is hidden in konqueror :-/07:41
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mr_butterhey peeps.  I isntalled something using apt-get install cvs I want to remove it can someone help please?!07:47
mr_butterhey peeps.  I isntalled something using apt-get install cvs I want to remove it can someone help please?!07:49
mr_butterdouble post07:49
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:49
stdinmr_butter: tried "apt-get remove <package>" or using adept?07:50
mr_butterthan you peeps07:50
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DaSkreechmr_butter: You installed something with cvs or you installed cvs ?07:51
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AyabaraI'm having a go at desktop effects here. Which Composite Manager would you guys recommend for Kubuntu?07:52
mr_butterI installed cvs07:52
mr_butterthis is the reply i got to apt-get remove it07:52
mr_butterpasting a few lines don't kill me07:53
mr_buttersudo apt-get remove cvs07:53
mr_butterE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:53
mr_butterE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc07:53
DaSkreechmr_butter: You have adept open07:53
Daisuke-Idois synaptic or adept open?07:53
DaSkreechmr_butter: close it and use sudo aptitude remove cvs07:53
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Daisuke-Idoread the errors you're getting, think them through, you might have better luck fixing things than you thought07:53
Daisuke-Idobut why remove cvs?07:54
mr_butterwell I didn't know what I installed I thought it was a webcam driver07:54
mr_butterwhats it's purpose07:54
mr_butterit's not the driver i thought it was07:54
Daisuke-Idocvs is content versioning system07:54
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Daisuke-Idoit isn't directly useful, but it allows you to get source to compile other software07:55
Daisuke-Idois that what cvs stands for?07:55
Daisuke-Idoif not it at least sounds plausible07:55
mr_butteryes it's removing07:56
mr_butterthanks peps07:56
mr_butterand I thought I was the only one using KDE07:56
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thumperhow can I get kdm back?07:57
thumperI installed ubuntu-desktop so I could play07:57
thumperbut it overwrote kdm with gdm07:57
thumperI want my kdm back07:58
Lynourereinstall kubuntu-desktop? or just reconfigure kdm, I think07:59
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LynoureBut gotta run now.07:59
dorkfaceIs this the right channel if one is having problems getting a burned kubuntu cd to work?08:00
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DaSkreechthumper: reconfigure either gdm or kdm it will ask if you want it as default08:00
DaSkreechdorkface: sure08:00
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thumperDaSkreech: ta08:00
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dxdtWill the next version of Kubuntu have the cool desktop effect menus and such that Ubuntu will have?  I see screenshots of Gutsy and I want the neat 3 radio button wizard for installing desktop effects and such08:01
dorkfaceYeah, for some reason, the CD does nothing on boot up; it goes directly to windows08:01
dorkfaceeven though within windows, it can see the iso image on it when it is explored08:01
dorkfaceit does this on two seperate machines08:01
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dorkfaceassuming "iso image" isn't redundant :d08:02
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DaSkreechdorkface: How did you burn it?08:03
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sub[t] rnldorkface: have you checked your bios to see if you boot from a cdrom before the harddrive?08:03
sub[t] rnlhrm08:03
DaSkreechdxdt: Probably not but you can apt-get install compiz-fusion08:03
dorkfacesub[t] rnl:  Yes, I did double check that.  As a matter of fact, on the first machine, I made it so that ALL of the boot steps were to boot to CD; it still booted to windows08:04
dxdtthat is really the only thing I want from the gnome based version08:04
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dxdtI find myself otherwise leaning toward KDE on how things are done08:04
dorkfaceDaSkreech:  I burned it on a windows vista machine, onto a CD-R08:04
DaSkreechdorkface: How?08:04
dorkfacein terms of software?08:04
truthI immediately tend to blame Windows for everything08:05
dorkfacewhatever Vista uses08:05
sub[t] rnlDaSkreech is on the right path then, sounds like it wasn't burned properly08:05
DaSkreechNaw some stuff I blame hardware manufactuere for08:05
DaSkreechdorkface: Urk08:05
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.08:05
DaSkreech!live cd08:05
ubotuUbuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.08:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nero - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:05
DaSkreechdorkface: Does the ISO get it's own icon?08:06
dorkfacea blue cd08:06
dorkfacebut not on the CD08:06
dorkfaceon the OS08:06
dorkfaceon the CD, it has the "not recognized" icon08:07
sub[t] rnltry using some other app to burn the .iso file, besides a vista native08:08
dorkfaceI'll try that, and perhaps at a slower speed too, just in case08:08
truthdorkface: When you reboot, do you see something that says Boot Menu - Press F12    or anything that resembles that08:08
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sub[t] rnltruth: he's booting from cdrom before harddrive08:08
sub[t] rnldorkface: if I remember correctly poweriso is a lightweight program that does great.  I believe its free08:09
truthdorkface: How many cdrom's are in your system?08:09
dorkfacejust one08:09
truthPowerISO or MagicISO08:09
DaSkreechdorkface: Laptop?08:09
dorkfacety, I was just about to ask what you guys would recommend for a lightweight burn program :)08:09
dorkfaceone is a laptop, another is a  desktop08:09
truthI always used MagicISO or Alcohol 120%08:10
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truthWell actually, I'm in the process of backing up files on a machine running Windows.08:11
truthWhenever I'm done....    :)08:12
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djdarkmanis there a way to edit the kde service menus?08:13
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djdarkmanhow can I copy a file using kde`s copy instead of cp from the terminal?08:21
DaSkreechdjdarkman: right click -> copy to -> browse to directory ?08:23
djdarkmanno no I mean by command08:23
djdarkmanI want to make a kde servicemenu that copys or moves a file to a specified directory08:24
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DaSkreechI'm heading to bed08:25
DaSkreechdjdarkman: $kde ?08:25
DaSkreech#kde ?08:25
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djdarkmantryng there too08:25
stephan_hello, i am having trouble uninstalling f@h client and when i try to kill the process it says i dont have permission08:25
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jarihi, could some one say what the orange color means in the ls command? Im trying to figure whats the difference between two subversion repositories08:26
djdarkmanstephan_: do it with root08:26
djdarkmanand if you 'uninstalled' it, it won`t start after reboot08:26
truthsudo killall filename  ?08:26
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dorkfaceAh, thank you everyone.  When I used deepburner, at the slowest speed (just in case), the boot up works fine now08:33
dorkfacetoo bad DaSkreech went to bed, hehe08:34
sub[t] rnlgood to hear dorkface08:34
Knightlusthi guys, how can i see my sysinfo from konsole.. kinda like doing /sysinfo in konversation08:37
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bodlySysinfo for 'jirussel-laptop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz at 1000 MHz (3661 bogomips), HD: 54/92GB, RAM: 1820/2017MB, 133 proc's, 12.42h up08:38
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stephan_thx guys, i got it figured out now08:39
truthSysinfo for 'kubuntu': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.20GHz at 3200 MHz (6408 bogomips), HD: 53/109GB, RAM: 318/374MB, 108 proc's, 17.2h up08:39
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snowdonkeyHi.  Does anyone know how to remove the transparent bar in Yakuake?08:42
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truthi have a secondary hard drive that freezez up at 75% when I try to format. What is the cause of that, bad sectors?08:47
nacholibrebuy a new one...08:47
truthIt freezes up the entire system and I have to turn off with the power button.08:47
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nacholibreremove it08:47
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truthNo possible way to fix it?08:48
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nacholibreWhat do U want to do with the storage?08:49
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nacholibreSave music, films, photos?08:49
truthyes, use it only as storage08:49
nacholibreOkay, this isn't a good idea!08:49
nacholibreBecause: I had allready a lot of broken hard disks and always I thought to myself:08:50
nacholibreIt works!08:50
truthMaybe I could i just use like 70% of it and leave the other part free...08:50
nacholibreIt works08:50
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nacholibreAnd one day: BANG! All data was out of the range.... . Say goodbye forever!08:50
keithExcuse me for butting in. Truth, I agree with nacholibre. That drive will fail on you, and it might not give any other warnings. Just "pop", and all your data's gone.08:50
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nacholibreYou're welcome keith ;)08:51
truthyep i know ya'll are right. i'm just being cheap08:51
keithIf you have to use it, put /swap and /tmp on it. Temporary stuff that won't make you sad when the drive dies.08:52
truthbut wtf.... why do drives die like that08:52
nacholibreI'll wouldn't even use any hardware which is 99,99999 % usefull, because my 20 GB personal lost data was too much... :( And you can be sure:08:52
nacholibreIt's too much!08:52
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truththat 25% dead hd is 200 gb08:53
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keithTruth, I can't tell about your drive. But in the past, I've seen this same problem as a result of a head crash.  Somebody bumped the drive too hard when the heads were at the 75% point, and it scratched the surface.08:53
nacholibreokay folks, university doesn't wait for me ;( have to go!08:54
nacholibreCU and think twice truth ;)08:54
nacholibrebye bye08:54
truthk. ty nacho. pz08:54
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keithA head crash that doesn't instantly kill the drive still does eventually. The head that crashed won't record or playback as well. The scrape on the surface tends to spread, with little magnetic flakes occasionally popping off from the fast spin.08:55
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keithEventually, the head completely fails, or one of those tiny flakes flys between the head and surface, causing another crash.08:56
keithIt sucks having it happen to an 800gb drive, though!  I sure sympathize.08:57
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jussi01Hmmm, anyone got a Logitech MX Revolution mouse? Im thinking of getting one, want to see if it all works in linux etc08:58
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keithAnd it's my bedtime too.  Good luck, truth.  G'night all!08:59
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truthAnyone know what I can use in place of Motorolla Phone Tools?08:59
truthc ya keith08:59
Knightlusttruth: kmobiletools, although I haven't tried09:00
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:01
jussi01!info kmobiletools09:01
ubotukmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB09:01
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truthshowoff :p09:02
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truthoh yea.. i already have that, it doesn't work very well.09:03
jussi01truth: did you enable the motorola battery feature?09:04
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truthi mean, i got it to work. but it doesnt do file transfers09:05
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truthmotorolla phone tools was bangin :) it even had a built in mp3 cropping tool to make custom ringtones09:07
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truthi just found one called moto4lin, i'm about to give it a try.09:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moto4win - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:08
truth!info moto4win09:08
ubotuPackage moto4win does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moto4lin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:08
truth!info moto4lin09:08
ubotumoto4lin: file manager and seem editor for Motorola phones (like C380/C650). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3+svn20060819-1 (feisty), package size 147 kB, installed size 484 kB09:09
jussi01!botabuse > truth09:09
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jussi01viljami: do you need some help?09:35
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viljamino vittu en!09:38
ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi09:39
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truthhello ppl?09:58
emilsedgh!hi | truth10:00
ubotutruth: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:00
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truthi'm having the hardest time getting a home network setup10:00
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ForgeAusyeah they can be fickle like that10:02
ForgeAustruth are you using nfs?10:02
ForgeAusahh ok10:02
truthi just want to be able to access the files and use the printer thats running on the xp machine10:03
ForgeAussamba has a config file..10:03
ForgeAusprolly under /etc/samba/ at a guess...10:03
ForgeAusI've toyed with it before10:03
truthyep it is10:03
truthi opened it earlier, i was reading a response to a similiar problem someone had on a forum10:04
ForgeAusare you getting an error?10:04
ForgeAusis it an authentication issue?10:04
truthserver timed out10:04
ForgeAusyou mean the xp machine?10:05
truthi've never setup a network before... i very well could be doing something wrong10:05
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truthyes, when trying to connect to the xp machine10:05
ForgeAuswell first of all are they on the same network? (physically do they share a lan connection to a central device?)10:05
truthto a hub10:06
truthto a router10:06
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ForgeAusok then check the ip's are tehy in the same range generally X.X.Y.Y where X.X and subnet masks are the same10:06
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ForgeAusdoh I gotta go10:07
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dorkfacethere is a different version of "gksudo" in kde, right?10:18
pag!kdesu | dorkface10:18
ubotudorkface: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo10:18
dorkfaceah, thank you10:19
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ashfaqFriends, is their a possibility of using voice messenger like yahoo, googletalk in kde10:21
ashfaqAnything equivavalent willdo10:21
[4N93L] :|10:23
truthi'm ready to sling this xp machine off my balcony10:23
[4N93L] lol10:23
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[4N93L] i like xp,but not as much as kubuntu10:23
pagashfaq, Kopete supports voicechat for some protocols - not sure which ones though10:23
truthany idea how to get a home network setup between xp and kubuntu?10:24
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[4N93L] try Remote Desktop Sharing. :\10:24
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ashfaq<pag> procols means, will be able to connect, some one using yahoo, or google using windows10:25
[4N93L] :|10:25
truthi dont know where to begin to try that.10:25
rubatoHow do I install Japanese Language support for programs like Open Office and Kopete?10:26
[4N93L] truth, try the program "Krdc" found under "Internet".10:26
pagashfaq, pardon? ie. Google talk (or actually xmpp) is a protocoll used for communication - it has many client, like Google Talk, Kopete, Pidgin etc..10:27
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germandoes anyone know how to donwload mauk from hotmail to thunderbird?10:28
[4N93L] hmm .. i never tried downloading mail from hotmail to thunderbird. :\10:28
truthwhen i hit scan, it doesnt detect anything10:28
se7en^Of^9german: as fare as i know hotmail doesn't suport pop310:29
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se7en^Of^9and hotmail sux anyway10:29
[4N93L] truth: is ur xp connected to the net ?10:29
[4N93L] se7en: i like hotmail v_v10:29
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germani found something under adept manager pop3 an smtp to hotmail gateway,10:30
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germanif it is lsited in adept, does it mean is sure?10:30
mr_butterif I wanted to remove a user and all it's settings.  How would I go about it in X ?10:30
truthon the xp computer i have made the mshome10:31
se7en^Of^9german: try it ... might work ...10:31
truthi can go into there, and open up network connections, browse to "entire network" and theres a workgroup named mshome, which reveals  the files i want to share10:31
truthits hooked up to a hub that goes to a router10:31
truthboth computers are connected to the same hub10:32
Kachnamr_butter: delete his /home/user dir and delete him in kcontrol or somewhere :)10:32
mr_butterin would have to do it from root right?10:32
mr_butteri'm trying to erase my kde account and everything to do with it and start again10:33
mr_butteri filled it with nonsense10:33
truthmaybe i need to do something to samba.... i have no idea...10:33
rubatoi'm really new, and the tutorials i've looked through were really confusing. I'm running feisty fawn, and I am trying to get Japanese Language support to work in programs like OpenOffice and Kopete. Any suggestions?10:33
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se7en^Of^9truth: you see the shared folder from the linux box?10:34
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truthi tried open konqueror and typing smb://ipofothercomputer10:35
truthit says it timed out10:35
pag!info openoffice.org-l10n-ja | rubato10:35
uboturubato: openoffice.org-l10n-ja: Japanese language package for OpenOffice.org. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1640 kB, installed size 7384 kB10:35
mr_butterif i don't come back i screwed everything up. I'll try and use the force10:36
mr_butteris there a way to format it all without removing the OS like a clean sweep?10:36
se7en^Of^9truth: try smbtree10:36
[4N93L] Arghhh !! I need help with Java. -_-;10:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnusim8085 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:37
truthyes 4n, i have the ip of it.10:37
[4N93L] :|10:38
[4N93L] Wow, was i lagging ?10:38
truthno no, i was fiddling before i seen it10:38
[4N93L] oh ><10:38
truth<[4N93L] > try Krfb, u will get the ip# though both are using the same :\10:39
[4N93L] How do i install the latest version of Java ?? Anyone able to help ?10:39
ksivajiis there anyone using opendns in kubuntu10:39
[4N93L] I installed Java6, but need the "Update 3" and i cant seem to install it. =\10:40
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:41
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rubatoubotu: I'm sorry your response to my question about Japanese was very confusing to me, I am extremely new to this10:45
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truthi'm stumped!10:45
rubatopag: I'm sorry your response to my question about Japanese was very confusing to me, I am extremely new to this OS10:46
truthcould someone take it from the beginning explaining what steps i should take in setting up a home network10:46
pagrubato, in other words: just install the package openoffice.org-l10n-ja from Adept, and you should get Japanese support to oo.o10:47
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rubatopag: will this carry over to inputting in Kopete or firefox?10:48
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pagrubato, that'll carry only the language of GUI in OO.o, inputting options shold be changed with keyboard-settings in System Settings10:49
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[4N93L] Grrrrr .. still not working . -_-;10:52
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[4N93L] java's getting on my nerves.10:53
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mr_butterme to10:54
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VSpikeThis may be a wierd question, but when I'm working on one task, I might end up with a kpdf window, an open office or two, maybe a few firefox pages and so on open, all relating to the task.  Sometimes I may want to put that down and work on it later.  I know I can use desktops to organise things, but they still clutter the task bar.  Is there a way to save and restore a bunch of open windows or documents, sort of like a snapshot or session10:55
rubatothank you pag that seems to have worked10:55
VSpikeI can't even find a way to do that just with firefox - opera used to have a save session option which was quite useful10:56
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_aaalost passwords can be recovered how?11:04
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rohan_what package does kubuntu use to display OSD when i control volume using volume keys on keyboard ?11:04
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ciacong'mornin @ all11:31
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germani got hotmail working with thunderbird11:32
[4N93L] german: congrats. =] 11:33
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ciaconI have a fairly simple q. how can I ajust my refresh-rate of my screen? I have looked through the monitor settings avadible with KDE... 59hz is way to low - i am rather lokking for somthing like 1600x1200 @ 85hz11:33
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mr_butteris there a way to convert a gnome account to kde11:34
mr_butteruseless gnome assaulting my life11:34
rohanmr_butter: user accounts are the same for gnome and kde11:34
rohanif you want to install kde, just do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop11:34
mr_butterya but i log onto my root11:34
blendtuxwhat do you mean working with hotmail german11:34
mr_butterand it goes to ubuntu11:34
mr_butternot kubuntu11:34
mr_butterwhich is disturbing11:34
mr_butterapt install hmmm11:35
[4N93L] blendtux: german can view his emails found in Hotmail using his/her Thunderbird.11:35
mr_butteralt space dosen't even work in gnome is there another command for slingshot?11:35
blendtuxoh oke, but can he allso send his email via thunderbird [4N93L] 11:35
[4N93L] blendtux: i hope so. ><11:36
[4N93L] psh !! how do u ppl type in red?! =_=11:36
blendtuxwhat do you mean [4N93L] 11:37
pag[4N93L] , it's called highligh - happens, when your nick is mentioned11:37
blendtuxyeah like [4N93L] 11:37
blendtuxnot with [4N93L11:37
blendtuxbut blendtux11:37
[4N93L] o0o0o0oh. gracias for the info.11:38
[4N93L] [\]  bows [\] 11:38
pagblendtux, you can't highlight yourself :)11:38
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blendtuxyes i saw that :)11:38
[4N93L] damn irc, need to work on it more often. :\11:38
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utnubuk_7.10 and 7.04 install disks dont work, i tried the alternate install disk for 7.04 and it seems to be hanging up....   any ideas???11:39
utnubuk_tribe 4 worked fine and I want to get my laptop working again11:39
utnubuk_better yet - does anybody know if I can somehow download tribe 4?11:41
utnubuk_that would be f'n sweet11:41
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utnubuk_argh.... averatec sucks11:42
utnubuk_does kubuntu prefer itself to be on the first partition??11:42
utnubuk_the two question marks means that this is a serious question - three would make it incredibly serious11:43
utnubuk_four question marks would just be insane11:43
mr_butter4 would be ludacris11:43
mr_butterbanned in most countries11:43
utnubuk_omg the timer thing just changed over to an arrow, maybe there is hope11:44
mr_butterubuntu should install as kubuntu and ubuntu as option.  I can't even function in ubuntu i almost threw my monitor into oblivion and i could. I have spares11:44
mr_butteris there a way to check your online timer in kde?11:45
mr_butterkonversation i mean sorry11:45
utnubuk_what you mean by online timer?11:45
utnubuk_omg the background popped up...11:45
mr_butterlike an irc timer11:45
mr_butterin konversation saying11:45
utnubuk_today might turn out to be a good day11:45
mr_butteryou been online for so long11:45
utnubuk_umm i know theres a way11:45
utnubuk_hold on11:45
lup0anyone know about kvpnc usage? Any problems with fields being disabled when they shouldn't be11:46
utnubuk_did everyone see that?11:47
utnubuk_if so im sorry11:47
[4N93L] utnubuk: I didnt11:47
utnubuk_k good11:47
utnubuk_mr_butter: do a whois11:49
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vbgunzso Kubuntu 7.10 will have support for printers, even printers that don't have drivers for Linux at all?11:50
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mr_butterwell it supports all my hp stuff i didn't have to install anything11:50
mr_butteri plugged it in and good to go11:50
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utnubuk_I finally got kubuntu running on my machine, but my password is wrong :/11:51
utnubuk_how could i be so dumb?11:51
vbgunzmr_butter: ubuntu is great. but I read somewhere ubuntu 10 features in 10 days, printers will just be supported or something to that effect... where can I get more info?11:51
mr_butteri'm not sure boss i run kubuntu i plugged in my hp scanner and printer and started working it no problem.  Can't say the same for my creative webcam though no juice there11:52
mr_butterwhen i went to print it asked which device i want to use and the hp stuff came up right away11:53
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mr_butterit's probably the main reason why i deleted windows11:53
mr_butterthat and the viruses11:53
utnubuk_i cant remember my password because i'm a tar11:53
Hamrahello everyone, installed firefox yesterday but its still not working properly, i create a profile when it asks for one, but when i run firefox again, i dont see the profile i created!11:53
vbgunzI use Kubuntu too. incredibly a printer/scanner in the house keeps us running XP.11:53
mr_butterhmm what type vb hp?11:54
Riddell** test final candidate ISOs https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Kubuntu  on #ubuntu-testing11:54
mr_buttermine is not a combo i have an old ghetto scanner from 97 that it picks up no sweat11:54
mr_butterusb cables?11:54
mr_butteri'm not quite sure then one of these elite members should be able to help.  So far everything worked plug and play even my Wireless card I plugged it in and right away it detected it.  All old equipment i'm not sure as how to install or where to get drivers for your item what model is that bitch?  I mean printer11:55
mr_butteror scanner11:55
utnubuk_AHA! it was my name which i could not remember11:56
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mr_butterhappens to the best of us11:56
mr_buttereven the worst11:56
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utnubuk_on a serious note, my machine is running very slow ... any ideas why?11:57
mr_butterwhat kind of box you runnin utnubuk?11:57
utnubuk_the mouse lags behind by at least a second or so11:57
mr_butterthat would make me snap11:57
emilsedghutnubuk_: use top command to see which process is using resources11:57
mr_buttersmash the screen even11:57
emilsedghutnubuk_: open kosnole and type top11:58
vbgunzmr_butter: lexmark 2300, it appears a live cd picks it up on another machine... thats wild, but thats ubuntu... I plan on upgrading to kubuntu, it just might work11:58
utnubuk_it should have enough horsepower - 1.8 and 512 ram11:58
utnubuk_ok thanks emilsedgh11:58
mr_butterkubuntu should work the same no?11:58
mr_butteraside from it's better than ubuntu hehehhe11:58
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mr_butterdoes it say the model when you plug it in?11:58
mr_butteror when you go to print11:58
mr_butteror ask even which device to use11:59
mr_butterutnubuk yea man that's enough juice i'm running a celeron 1ghz with 256mb of ram!11:59
vbgunzyeah, it finally shows it but trying to print causes a cup error of known format/document something like that11:59
mr_butterand that rocks11:59
germancould anyone try to play this
mr_butterhmm strange what file type are you printing something you wrote/copied/pasted in kubuntu or some windows or mac doc12:00
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germani cant get amarok to play it12:00
vbgunzwas thinking of grabbing this ram from newegg today http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682021106612:00
mr_buttergerman is it going to spam my ass?12:00
mr_buttervb whats your box running?12:00
germannot at all, it's a swedish radio station12:00
vbgunzmr_butter: 'this is a test' inside a new document inside gedit12:00
vbgunzheh, it's all good, i will look further into it. I'll get it, hopefully :)12:00
utnubuk_a german that listens to swedish radio, eh?12:01
utnubuk_i wouldn't trust it ;)12:01
mr_butternot a crime in this country12:01
germanlol i am not german, my second name is german, in spanish it sounds as herman12:01
mr_butterbesides if it's crap i'll verbally burn him in here12:01
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germani am Southamerican but i live in sweden, close to santa claus12:02
mr_butterall good man12:02
germanmy amarok is playing with Xine, but still it says the media is not supported12:02
mr_butterstanbye german12:02
mr_butteror whatever it is12:03
mr_butterya i had a few beers12:03
utnubuk_german maybe try vlc??12:03
mr_butterno go german12:03
mr_butterno connect12:03
vbgunzI cannot wait for vlc to go completely qt, might just make that my video player of the year. I hope it's clean :)12:03
germanwell kaffeine plays it, i jsut wanted a sole program to play it12:03
mr_butteri just clicked12:03
mr_butteri'll load up kaffeine12:04
mr_butterone sec12:04
utnubuk_i ctrl-alted into a new shell, ran top, and i don't know how to interperet it....  is 100.0% sy bad?12:04
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vbgunzutnubuk_: press h12:05
utnubuk_it says events/0 under command, 99.7% spu12:05
utnubuk_cpu i mean12:05
mr_butteri've got no go on kaffeine german repeat no go12:05
germankaffeine dd not play it?12:06
mr_butterno connection whatsoever damnet12:06
mr_butterjust ran it12:06
germanit plays it for me,12:06
mr_buttershould i try xine?12:06
mr_butterof course12:06
mr_butteryour on your own network12:06
mr_butteri'm out here miles away in the ice block of canada12:06
utnubuk_panspermic deevolution12:06
germanice block, man we hace -5 today12:07
germanwell thanks fr the help12:07
germanoff course, who counts in farenheits?12:08
utnubuk_what the hell is events/0 ????12:08
utnubuk_this is a four question mark question... i think the police might already be outside12:08
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utnubuk_im going to try killing it12:09
utnubuk_right after i find out how12:09
utnubuk_operation not permited....12:09
utnubuk_i need a bigger gun i think12:10
utnubuk_"Kill PID 5 with signal [15] : "  What the hell does it want me to type?12:11
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utnubuk_is events/0 kernel essential?12:12
utnubuk_this sucks.. i cant even get to my desktop12:15
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about events/0 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:19
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Hamra!alternate CD12:26
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal12:26
ubotuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD12:26
Hamra! kubuntu DVD12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu dvd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:27
Hamra!installation DVD12:27
utnubuk_hamra do you know what events/0 is?12:27
Hamrasorry pal, no idea, having a bad, huh?12:28
Hamrabad day*12:28
utnubuk_yeah its taking like 99.7 to 100% of my cpu.12:28
utnubuk_and it wont die12:28
utnubuk_theres got to be an infinite loop somewhere which pisses me off because this is a fresh install12:29
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Hamratry pressing ctrl-esc, something like a task manager starts12:30
utnubuk_i cant even get to my desktop man12:30
utnubuk_im trying to do top in a ctrl-alt-f1 thingy12:30
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compilerwriterLadies and Gents I am currently in the midst of an upgrade to the rc and seem to have stalled out.  I seem to be preparing cupsys interminably.12:32
Hamradoes it tell you what process is doing this? name, PID, anything?12:32
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utnubuk_pid 512:33
utnubuk_the 'command' is events/012:33
Hamracan you type anything in the shell?12:33
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Hamratry "kill pid 5", try sudo if it didnt work12:34
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ilovemoon86qualcuno pu aiutarmi?12:36
compilerwriter!adept fix | compilerwriter12:37
llutzubotu: afaik events/[n]  is the kernel thread-handler, not an own "command"12:37
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llutzutnubuk_:  afaik events/[n]  is the kernel thread-handler, not an own "command"12:37
ilovemoon86ho un problema con adept12:37
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:37
utnubuk_llutz: any ideas on how i can get it to stop hogging my cpu??12:37
llutzutnubuk_: sry no12:38
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utnubuk_screw it - im changing over to vista :D12:40
Hamraim looking at my process table, i can see my events/0 and its "Nice" is -5, with the ata and scsi processes having the same "Nice"12:40
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superdude3334no dont do that vista sucks12:40
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utnubuk_i have -5 as well12:40
Hamrayup, i must agree, vista turned out to be a lot more buggy12:41
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Hamra/me is going for a few minutes12:43
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Hamrai take my internet by LAN from another computer, so it is always on, if i hibernate while adept is downloading, will it resume when i start my computer again?01:01
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:07
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Rudd-Ohi guys, need a little support here with kde4?  kde4 3.94 is telling me that libkpty.so cannot be found.  any idea which package need I install?  KUbuntu here.01:08
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Rudd-Oany ideas?01:08
DocTomoeKDE4 is beta.01:08
Rudd-ODocTomoe: I know that.  That's why I said "testing"01:09
Rudd-O(oh I idn't say it)01:09
Rudd-OI want to test it01:09
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DocTomoewell, Rudd-O, I don't want to be rude ... but how about joining #ubuntu+2 or something?01:10
stdinRudd-O: have you installed kde4base-dev?01:11
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Rudd-Othanks DocTomoe01:11
stdin(and #ubuntu+2 doesn't exist)01:11
Rudd-Oyes it does01:11
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DocTomoestdin: redirects to +101:11
stdinwell it's not official01:11
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stdinDocTomoe: then why not say +1 ? ;)01:11
DocTomoestdin: will kde4 be in gutsy? *I* think rather not :)01:12
stdinnot by default, it'll be in universe01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about countdown - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:12
DocTomoewe will see ... I, for onw, believe it when I see a working kde4 in universe, not before ;)01:12
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:13
stdinit's working as much as it can be01:13
lup0no countdown clock :(01:13
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stdinwith it not being complete01:13
[4N93L] Buhbye y'all. =] 01:13
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pwnerhi subraman01:25
subramanipwner: hi01:26
pwnerwhere are you from?=01:26
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Ax-AxWhat was the name of that GTK Amarok?01:35
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Ax-AxEx something01:35
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electuZHelp! eth0 has disappeared..01:40
llutzelectuZ: gutsy? try eth101:41
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juanranecesita ayuda con adept01:42
llutz!es | juanra01:42
ubotujuanra: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:42
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electuZllutz | sometimes there s only eth3 or eth5 ...01:46
llutzelectuZ: i don't know what the intention for that renameing was, it's bugging me too01:47
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juliusIs it just me or is dolphin a gnome app?01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:58
juliusthe new file manager for 7.1001:58
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llutzjulius: it should be kde but is crippled like a gnome-app ;)01:59
juliusA paragraph describing it made me laugh, said it was much more simple with less confusing features01:59
llutzi heard it will be better with the kde4-version. let's wait01:59
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Hamrawhen i install 7.10 will i be able to not use this dolphin?02:00
juliusas long as konquorer still works perfectly ill be happy02:00
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Dragnslcr!info dolphin02:00
ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB02:00
juliusjust defaults to dolphin, dunno how hardi t would be to change it back02:00
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llutzjulius: konq is crippled too by default :(02:00
Hamradidnt like GNOME at all02:00
juliusdont like gnome at all02:00
pagjulius, easy. Changing that was the first thing I did since upgrade :)02:00
DragnslcrI don't see how dolphin can be a KDE app. There's no K in it02:01
juliusDragnslcr: dont go all apple on me :p02:01
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juliusis there going to be compiz integration and a different font set?02:01
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Hamra!info compiz02:02
ubotucompiz: OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 60 kB02:02
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Hamrawhat is a compositing manager?02:03
juliuskwin and metacity02:03
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pagjulius, those are Window Managers. Composite managers are ie. xcompmgr & kompmgr (and of cource Compiz)02:04
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juliusah ic02:05
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flakehey hey, wine's latest update fixes some redraw problems, now can see what I'm doing with anim8or03:07
flakeit's gonna be a good day for a release, when thursday gets here :)03:08
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DevideZerokubuntu gusty has been released ?03:09
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letalisDevideZero: i dont think so, not officially anyway03:09
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DevideZeroletalis , can you see this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40810/03:10
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letaliswhat it means is that gutsy isnt offically stable for a release yet, and because it isnt youll have to wait on the official cds once it does.03:11
flakewhy is there only two more days then03:12
DevideZeroletalis , but on the second line , they say that there alrwady have sent to me the cd;s03:12
letalisas of right now unless something changed since yesterday that i am unaware of gutsy is still in beta testing03:12
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flakeubuntu homepage, 2 days until 7.1003:12
letalistheyre usign a 3rd party shipping comapny to do the shipping end of the process is what i gether from that03:13
MarcChelp! everything on my screen has shifted to the left by about 50 pixels :-/03:13
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MarcCis there an X command I might have accidentally pressed?03:13
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hw_Can someone help me with "Framework not found exception": http://pastebin.archlinux.org/15966 ?03:14
letalisi would be more concerned if you didnt see them in a few days03:14
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letalisas of right now, i cant imagine them coming out with gutsy cds when ive been getting daily updates through adept because of changes made the previous day to the system03:14
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letalisgutsy is in a pretty large state of flux, not as bad as  it was but close.03:15
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ChaniI stuck a dvd in my laptop, and chose to play it with kaffiene, but I get a xine error saying "The source can't be read." and another saying "No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/hdc)" with details...03:16
Chanithe details suggest that a plugin *was* found, though03:16
Chani09:15:11 PM: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [dvd:///dev/hdc] 03:17
Chani09:15:11 PM: xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [dvd:///dev/hdc] 03:17
Chani09:15:10 PM: xine: found input plugin : DVD Navigator03:17
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danielgu*/j norge03:21
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MarcCok, so the answer to my problem was, "start StepMania, then exit the program to reset your display" :D03:21
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KobolDoes anyone know if there's a way to apt-get or use adept to get Firefox's plugins, such as Flash Player, and Java?03:24
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JucatoKobol: flashplugin-nonfree for Flash03:25
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Jucatoand sun-java6-plugin (or sun-java5-plugin) for Java03:25
Jucatoyou can see those in Add/Remove Programs (under Flash and Java plugin)03:25
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KobolJucato, thanks :)03:26
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Chanigee, this might be a clue: libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.03:30
Chanimaybe I didn't install what I thought I did03:30
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Chanifunny, aptitude's not finding any css stuff03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about decss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:31
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:31
JucatoChani: ^^^03:31
Hamrawhat is the best multimedia player? or at least what do you (people here) recommend?03:32
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.03:32
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Hamraok, thnx03:33
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Chaniis libdvdcss not in multiverse? or is something odd about aptitude's searching?03:33
llutzChani: it's in medibuntu03:34
ardchoilleChani: libdvdcss2 can't be in the supported repos do to legal issues03:34
JucatoChani: yep. as ardchoille said03:34
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ChaniI assumed it'd be in the same class as mp3 stuff03:35
Jucatoit's more in the win32codecs class :)03:35
ChaniI could've sworn I installed those too :)03:35
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Jucatostart swearing :)03:35
ardchoillemedibuntu is ice03:35
Chaniugh, the tutorial I found was all gtk-oriented] 03:36
stdincss is a form of encryption, so breaking that encryption is illegal in some places. also distributing potentially illegal "cracking" software is something canonical would want to avoid03:36
KobolJucato, I got this error when trying to download it with sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree03:36
Chanistdin: yeah, I know all that03:36
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KobolPackage flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:36
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ChaniI just thought multivers included all the stuff of questionable legality03:37
KobolE: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate03:37
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JucatoChani: nope. we can't include legally questionable stuff03:37
Hamraanybody know where firefox stores information about the location of a certain profile? it keeps forgetting the profiles!03:37
Angelusis there a way to enter a boot option to change the monitor resolution on the live cd03:37
Jucatomultiverse is for non-free licensed software that we're free to distribute03:37
ardchoilleJucato: So medibuntu, unlike automatix, is trustworthy?03:37
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JucatoHamra: ~/.mozilla I presume03:37
Chanidid it include it back when universe was doiabled by default?03:37
stdinChani: mp3 support is legal just about everywhere, css is more difficult (the law is ambiguous on it)03:37
Jucatoardchoille: that I don't know03:37
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JucatoChani: dvdcss was never in the repos03:38
ChaniI guess I just never paid attention to it :)03:38
Chanithis is the first time I've had  any desire to use a dvd03:38
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Chanireally I'd like to play it in my bf's laptop, but there's something funny about the disk that his drive can't handle03:39
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LjLardchoille, Jucato: medibuntu tried to overwrite some ubuntu-repos-provided packages for me, on Edgy. i don't know if that would have caused me problems (as i just installed the .debs manually then), but overall, i haven't heard a complain about medibuntu. i'd say it's in the same league as winehq: not official ubuntu repos, but ones we know are kept updated and are generally sane. we can recommend them to people who need the stuff that's contained in them.03:40
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ardchoilleLjL: Ok, thank you for that info.03:40
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Jucatothanks too :)03:41
Chaniargh. where's the actual repo url?03:41
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:41
ardchoilleJucato: I don't think so, ljl types pretty fast.03:41
LjLheh sometimes i pass the freenode message length limit without even quite noticing :)03:41
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Jucatoardchoille: it still takes more time than this simple one liner :P03:41
stdinChani: you can install libdvdcss2 with "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh" IIRC03:42
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:42
JucatoKobol: sorry spaced out for a moment. can you run "sudo apt-get update" then try installing flashplugin-nonfree again?03:42
Chanils: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: No such file or directory03:43
KobolJucato: Same :(03:43
Chanistdin: oh, you've got a different path from the howto03:43
ardchoilleChani: You have to install libdvdread3 first03:43
stdinChani: yeah, the one in the guide is older03:43
JucatoKobol: oh...03:43
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KobolJucato: Oh and no rush, I'm reading a rather good book as I sit here :)03:43
JucatoKobol: hm.. I've seen that error before.. but frankly I can't recall the fix...03:44
Chaniardchoille: it's installed, has been for ages03:44
KobolJucato: The annoying bit is, it's grayed out in Adept.03:44
Chanifirst I should check whether wget still works with the recent proxy changes03:45
JucatoKobol: hm.. the repository might not be enabled.. it's in Multiverse...03:45
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:45
KobolJucato: Oh funky, Lemme look.03:45
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Chaniwhat was the command for erasing a variable that's been set with export foo=bar?03:46
Jucatounset $foo03:47
stdinminus the $03:47
Jucatoah ok. thought the $ was needed :)03:48
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[maTa] is there any way to remove LVM?03:48
stdinJucato: the shell will always expand the variable *before* executing ;)03:48
Jucatook ok. I was wrong... :)03:48
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Chani[maTa] : you mean repartitioning?03:49
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stdinJucato: ie: if foo=bar then, "unset $foo" = "unset bar"03:50
Jucatoah ok03:50
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Chanibugger. that didn't actually solve my problem03:51
Chanilibdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/chani/.dvdnav/.map'03:51
Chanilibdvdnav:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed03:51
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KobolJucato: Multiverse is enabled, still grayed out :( Is there an alternative? I'm not attached to Adobe lol, I just want to be able to use YouTube and such.03:51
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/03:52
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Daltondoes anyone know how to install the 32bit compatibility versions of some libraries?  My 64bit install of VMware Workstation 6 will not run without a series of 32 bit libraries - although the 64 bit versions are already installed.03:52
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Kobolstdin: Thanks :)03:52
louishallo thomas03:52
DaltonI am using Kubuntu 64 bit and trying to get vmware to run03:53
stdinhave you had a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware ?03:53
Daltonthanks for the link stdin, I am looking now03:54
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Kobolehm O_O03:58
KobolGoodgame: My Firefox broke :( Every time I open the preferences, it crashes >.,03:59
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KobolWhat the hell!04:02
xenolanyone here playing truecombat:elite? i got few issues that need to be solved04:02
KobolNow after I uninstall it, I reinstalled it, and it's still broken? It like...saved all the data >.<04:03
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[maTa] Chani: yep04:04
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LjLChani: i think export -n variable04:04
[maTa] i wanna create one more partition ntfs04:04
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Chaniregionset didn't help04:05
Jucatoer language Chani :)04:05
ChaniI still can't play this dvd04:05
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ardchoilleChani: Not all dvd's are playable. I have all required files/apps/packages installed and I have found a few dvd's that just won't play.04:06
ardchoilleChani: What is the title of the dvd04:07
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KobolI need some help, does anyone perhaps know where Firefox keeps most of it's data? I need to delete it :( Everytime I uninstall it, and then reinstall it, it's all there, including whatever caused me to NOT be able to use it.04:09
Chaniardchoille: the title of the original was snatch. this is a copy my friend made.  I am suspicious of whether he did it properly - but he's fairly experienced, and this error seems to be a fairly common one04:09
Chanilots of posts onhte internet about people having this problem, and then eventualy they say they fixed it, but don't say how :P04:09
Chanithe error suggest to me that I might have the same issue with other dvds04:10
ardchoilleSome dvd's contain bad sectors intentionally.. but there is info in the dvd that tells the player which sectors to skip. Most Linux dvd players don't read this "info" and puke when it reaches one of those intentionally bad sectors. This was an attempt to keep "unauthorised" dvd players from reading certain dvd's.04:10
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stdinKobol: backup (ie, move) ~/.mozilla/firefox somewhere and then open firefox04:10
ardchoilleChani: I have Snatch and it play fine here.04:10
Chanithe real test would be to see if the original would play, but said original is in another country right now04:11
ardchoilleiirc, libdvdcss treats a dvd as a block device and doesn't bother with decrypting the content04:12
Chanilooks like it would've been less of a hassle to just download it04:12
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stdinerm, entering mercy waters here04:12
ardchoillestdin: ok04:13
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jeffmHI, all.  My kioslaves seem to have broken recently.  I'm not sure if it was an upgrade or something else, but I did have an episode a while back where Konqueror lost some of its settings.04:13
stdinjust watch what you say "the man" may be watching ;)04:13
ardchoilleKudos to Linux for teaching me so much :)04:13
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jeffmAt any rate, does anyone know how to reset the settings for the kioslaves?  I can't seem to find a "settings" file if one exists.  The place where they all (ftp://, smb:// and fish://) seem to hang up is with authentication.04:14
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Chaniwell, I tried a random chinese dvd and it plays, albiet with this wird flicker every 2-3 seconds04:16
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Chaniso I'm gonna assume that disk was a coaster04:16
Kobolstdin: Thanks! :)04:16
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Chaniit's way too late anyways. neeed sleeeep.04:16
Kobolstdin: Don't suppose you happen to know how to make Firefox the standard way to open links? (Such as in here, and the like)04:17
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Rudd-Ohope you like this: http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/10/16/a-visual-stroll-through-the-world-of-kde-4-beta-394/04:17
stdinKobol: System Settings > Default Applications04:17
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Chanithanks all04:18
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atlfalcons866can install kde404:20
ardchoilleKobol: konversation>04:22
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Kobolstdin: Thanks again! :)04:26
Kobolardchoille: Yes, I got it now ;)04:26
BlueAidan_workhow do I troubleshoot my ipod not automounting?04:27
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nosrednaekimquiet in here....04:55
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notvanyone know pascal?04:57
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nosrednaekimnah...he lived like 400 years ago.04:57
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ardchoilleOh, wow, knetwalk was installed by default but wasn't in the menus. Nice game.04:58
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ashfaqWill I be able to install flash pluggin from adobe site? how?05:00
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ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:00
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nosrednaekimuhhgg I need to talk to BluesKaj05:05
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KobolCan anyone tell me off hand what the sudo apt-get install -f command does? The -f is what's throwing me.05:06
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nosrednaekim-f is force05:06
nosrednaekimdo "apt-get --help" which will explian things05:06
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Kobolnosrednaekim: Thanks.05:07
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ashfaqUbutu: I have amd 64 machine, it says their is no flash plugin, is it true05:07
KobolOi! >.< This is...annoying lol05:07
KobolAll of these packages I need seem to be...inter-dependant on one another, and I can't install just one.05:08
nosrednaekimashfaq: ah... 64 bit flash.05:08
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nosrednaekimKobol: what are you trying to install?05:08
pagKobol, nosrednaekim: -f stands for --fix-broken05:08
Vermuxdoes anybody knows where is the location of the following file in Kubuntu? /usr/include/asm/errno.h  ??05:09
nosrednaekimuhh... right where it says it is05:09
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ashfaqWhere to find and how to get it installed in kde Please nosrednaekim05:09
pagVermux, ie. /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14/include/asm-um/errno.h depends on kernel's version though05:10
nosrednaekim!flash | ashfaq05:10
ubotuashfaq: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:10
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emilsedghgnash is there for 64bit systems too05:10
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pagVermux, " locate errno.h " might help you finding it05:10
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Kobolpag: Does that mean if I used -f it would install it's dependancies as well?05:10
pagKobol, afaik it just mean, that if there's an error in apt's database, it'll try to fix it05:12
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Kobolnosrednaekim: Oh, and I'm trying to install Envy05:12
Vermuxpage, how do I get explanation on locate in the cmd?05:12
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pagVermux, man locate ?05:13
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pag!envy | Kobol05:13
ubotuKobol: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!05:13
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Vermuxpag: yes, that I already know- but a shorter version. something with the question mark or the word "help" maybe?05:13
ardchoilleKobol: Why do you want envy?05:14
pagVermux, locate --help  maybe?05:14
ardchoilleman locate ?05:14
Kobolardchoille: It was suggested for a problem I have O_o But ubotu is scaring me now :(05:15
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Vermuxhow do I exit man?05:15
ardchoilleKobol: You don't need to install 3rd party scripts to do things. You just need to learn the proper way to do them.05:16
ardchoilleVermux: "q"05:16
pagVermux, press "q"05:16
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Vermuxlocate and slocate are differ?05:17
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Kobolardchoille: Whenever I logout, shutdown, what have you, I get a black screen with a blinking cursor, after it gets all done as it were to shutdown...and...it is apparently a display error...and envy was suggested?05:17
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ardchoilleKobol: You don't need envy to fix a display error05:18
Kobolardchoille: If you know of a way to fix my problem, then please enlighten me, as I have no idea.05:18
Vermuxpag: does locate and slocate do the same thing?05:18
ardchoilleKobol: So, you shutdown and the screen went black?05:18
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Kobolardchoille: Black, with a white blinking cursor, that does nothing, I've tried throwing commands at it, and I get nadda05:18
ardchoilleVermux:  slocate - Security Enhanced version of the GNU Locate05:18
pagVermux, slocate checks permissions and doesn't show files you have no acces to05:19
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ardchoilleVermux: locate is a symlink to slocate05:19
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ardchoilleVermux: open a term and type:  file $(which locate)05:19
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Riddell** anyone running feisty?  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-358/ feisty main05:19
frojndhello there05:19
frojndWhere can I get this part of gimp: http://shrani.si/f/3Z/SP/3rb7HAxc/gimp.png05:19
BlueAidan_workseems I have to restart hal to get my ipod recognized after plugging it in05:20
Vermuxardchoille: what do u mean by "open a term"?05:21
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ardchoillefrojnd: Open gimp, File > Prefs, Interface > Previews enable layer and channel previews ?05:22
ardchoilleVermux: Open a terminal emulator or alt+f2 and type in konsole05:22
Vermuxpag: I c that -help and --help are the same05:23
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ardchoilleKobol: Which video card do you have?05:24
Vermuxardchoille: what is symlink/05:24
Kobolardchoille: nVidia GeForce 7600 GS05:24
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ardchoilleVermux:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symlink05:25
ardchoilleKobol: And did you install nvidia drivers for that card?05:25
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tharun I have been trying to get Dasher ( http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ )  to work on Gutsy. I have tried compiling the source from the website, but configure keeps complaining about missing packages. After installing ~50 packages (incl. dependencies), it is now stuck on "checking for gnome_a11y... configure: error: Package requirements (bonobo-activation-2.0 libbonobo-2.0 ORBit-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 cspi-1.0 atk) were not met: No package05:25
tharun'libgnomeui-2.0' found No package 'cspi-1.0' found" even though I have specified the flags --without-gnome --without-ally as mentioned in the INSTALL.Linux file. How can I get this to successfully build OR where can I get a pre-compiled version of Dasher 4 for KDE?05:25
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Kobolardchoille: Eh...No? Unless reconfiguring xorg does that :S05:26
ardchoille!info dasher gutsy05:26
ubotudasher: A graphical predictive text input system. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.6.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 365 kB, installed size 1000 kB05:26
ardchoilleKobol: No, you need to install the nvidia drivers for your card05:26
Kobolardchoille: I figured it was already good, since...I can see my screen and all :P05:26
RedIsDeadis it normal that the theme of kubuntu gutsy seems very ugly compared to feisty ?05:26
ardchoilletharun: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1 but dasher is in the repos05:26
ashfaqFlash problem solved for firefox thanks Tell me how I will be able to change the xorg file!05:27
ardchoilleKobol: Wanna install the drivers?05:27
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Kobolardchoille: Yes, especially if it will fix that shutdown and startup problem :S05:27
ashfaqI have nvidiya settings for resolution cofig working05:28
ardchoilleashfaq: To edit the xorg.conf file: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:28
Vermuxardchoille: what was the command: file $(which locate)?05:28
ardchoilleKobol: Open a terminal, I'll help you get the drivers installed05:28
ardchoilleVermux: yes05:28
Kobolardchoille: Done, and thank you :)05:28
Vermuxardchoille: what the purpose of it?05:29
ardchoilleVermux: That ttells you what type of file /usr/bin/locate is05:29
ardchoilleKobol: Type this in the terminal and see if it's installed: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`05:29
ashfaqardchoille: K desu kate pl help me understand, I am new to linux as whole05:30
ashfaqardchoille: Just switched over from vista to ubuntu than kubuntu last night!05:30
Kobolardchoille: That it is.05:30
Vermuxardchoille: so locate shows unauthorized files?05:31
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tharunardchoille: Thanks, but I have been trying to install the newer version of Dasher: Version 4.6.1 vs. 4.6.0 which is in the repos. Guess I will install the repo package now, as it is much less messy that way. :)05:31
atlfalcons866if i install kde4 will it erase my current kde05:31
Bucatoamanohi hey i have made this :  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=573890 for the wiki ? someone can do it?05:31
ardchoilleashfaq: Then the first thing I would recommend you do it:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup05:32
ashfaqardchoille: I will copy and paste this command in terminal help me execute the process, I need a resolution of 1440x90005:33
ardchoilleKobol: Next step:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx05:33
ardchoilleashfaq: That last command I gave you makes a backup of that file in case you mess up :)05:33
Vermuxardchoille: whats the difference between -help and --help?05:34
ashfaqardchoille:I had installed envy in Ubuntu, it shows in kde but after every boot I had to adjust the settings as the previous file is not being cchanged for you info05:34
ardchoilleVermux: no idea. Most apps do -h or --help  for help05:34
ardchoilleashfaq: Yes, envy is not a good idea05:34
ardchoille!envy | ashfaq05:35
ubotuashfaq: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!05:35
Kobolardchoille: Alright, it's done downloading and installing.05:35
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ardchoilleKobol: Next step:  sudo nvidia-xconfig05:35
Kobolardchoille: Done05:35
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Alwarrosomeone speack spanish?05:36
Vermuxardchoille: with locate, can I c files that I dont have access to?05:36
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ardchoilleKobol: Next step:  you might wanna run through the xorg config and remember to select "nvidia" instead of "nv" for the driver. The config command is:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:36
Alwarroi have problems whit amarok :S05:37
ardchoilleKobol: That will set up xorg for your various hardware and drivers05:37
ardchoille!es | Alwarro05:37
ubotuAlwarro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:37
AlwarroTnx :P05:37
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herois there an applet for the kicker that allows you to just type in commands (e.g. "gg kubuntu")05:38
Kobolardchoille: Attempt monitor autodetection?05:38
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Kobolardchoille: Alright05:39
ashfaqardchoille The nvidia settings installed though envy gives me the right resolution required, but the only problem is the file this software could not write to the default file05:39
ardchoilleashfaq: I can't help you with envy because I feel envy is not safe.05:39
Kobolardchoille: Alright, I'm done with the xorg reconfigure.05:40
Vermuxardchoille: when I type man locate, it gives "slocate" explanation and not "locate"05:40
ardchoilleKobol: You have the nvidia drivers installed already, what you're doing now is just setting up xorg.05:40
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Kobolardchoille: Okay, well I finished it.05:40
ashfaqardchoille envy has given me the nvidia settings option, and I am able to correct the resolution required by me, the only problem is it is not able to write the new settings to xorg. default, so on every boot I had to do the settings05:41
ardchoilleKobol: Now restart xorg, but remember that will close any apps you have open. Probably best to log out and choose "restart x" from the options menu. You should see the nvidia logo after that, then all done :)05:41
ardchoilleashfaq: ok05:41
Alwarrouhmm, in #kubuntu-es, nobody helpme =(05:41
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ashfaqardchoille: tell me and guide me to get required settings I will get rid of envy05:42
Kobolardchoille: Ok, so...We're assuming that the little empty blinking cursor wont be there this time?05:42
ardchoilleKobol:  For future reference: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:42
ardchoilleKobol: I'm assuming so, yes05:42
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Kobolardchoille: Alright, I'll close my applications and restart then. Be right back05:42
ardchoilleashfaq: Do you already have the nvidia drivers installed?05:43
Vermuxwhy when Im typing man locate, it gives "slocate" explanation and not "locate" ?05:43
ardchoilleVermux: I told yo because locate is a symlink to slocate05:43
RivaeAeryais it safe to install KDE4 on a computer that NEEDS to be functional all the time and has Kubuntu Gutsy? and how can i remove it after i install it? is there any other way to try it out?05:44
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ardchoilleRivaeAerya: kde4 is barely usable05:44
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WaltzingAlongRivaeAerya: you could install it, but still use kde 3.5.805:44
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ashfaqardchoille: Yes in Ubuntu three days back I installed envy it got the latest drivers and asked me to reboot, but on rebootin nothing happened, finally due to other problems as well I switched to kde and the software envy is still shown its utility to set the config is working but not saved!05:44
RivaeAeryahmm, and if i just want to try it out for a moment, and not get it on my pc?05:45
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!05:45
WaltzingAlongRivaeAerya: you could get the opensuse virtual machine image with kde405:45
RivaeAeryaWaltzingAlong: where to get?05:45
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ashfaqnvidia is already installed yes!ardchoille:05:46
ardchoilleashfaq: Which nvidia driver did it install and did it run "nvidia-xconfig" ?05:46
WaltzingAlongRivaeAerya: ask the google gods for replies to a query of kde 4 live cd05:46
Vermuxardchoille: then, why there is need for the two of them if they r the same?05:46
haffiHi, I just installed Kubuntu Gutsy rc-1, is there any way to enable compiz-fusion from a GUI? I have installed the nVidia drivers needed.05:46
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WaltzingAlongRivaeAerya: then perhaps google responds with  something such as http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/05:46
ardchoilleVermux: They aren't the same, one is a symlink and one is an app05:46
ashfaqYes it did run but ubuntu did not perhaps allowed it to do the changes05:46
ardchoillehaffi: gutsy help in #ubuntu+105:46
WaltzingAlonghaffi: kmenu / settings /advanced desktop settings05:46
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ashfaqardchoille: Tell me how to check if the drivers for invidia are installed and to find the version05:47
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ardchoilleashfaq: Sounds like all you need to do is setup xorg (needs root privs) and it should be done.05:47
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ashfaqTell me that how to right now we will get id done ardchoille:05:48
haffiWaltzingAlong: I haven't got a settings menu in Kmenu... I have system settings, but there's nothing important to see there05:48
ardchoilleashfaq:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:48
Vermuxardchoille: both of the commands give the same result, no?!05:48
WaltzingAlonghaffi: otherwise the name of the program command is ccsm05:48
WaltzingAlong!gutsy | haffi05:48
ubotuhaffi: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information05:48
haffiok, thanks for the help05:49
haffiI'll go to #ubuntu+105:49
ardchoilleVermux: runing "locate" runs "slocate" since "locate" is just a symlink.05:49
ashfaqardchoille: That I had done a number of times in ubuntu but the maximum resolution I could get is 1024x76805:49
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ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:50
ardchoilleashfaq: This is why envy is bad, it might have messed things up05:50
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ardchoilleKobol: How is it doing?05:51
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angelusguys ,what driver should i install for a GeForce 8400GS ? nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?05:51
ashfaqardchoille:Before installin envy I had tried that and after too, only in kde I got to see the nvidia settings option in system below envy, and I could change the resolution atleast for a session05:51
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Kobolardchoille: Same thing :S Only, I made a thread about this on the Kubuntu support forums, and a poster mentioned that next time I encounter that screen to attempt alt+F1 to see if I could get a prompt...Which I did! :) I was able to login with just the command prompt, and I did sudo shutdown now but I encountered another problem :( When I did that, it never shutdown, it got...stuck? :P For lack of a better term.05:52
WaltzingAlongangelus: nvidia-glx is provided by either nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy05:52
ashfaqHelp me fix this file to replace the original in backup or change the one in default with the new settings05:52
ardchoilleangelus: That card isn't even listed on nvidia's site: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html05:52
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ardchoilleKobol: Ah, that isn't due to the video drivers, tho.05:53
Vermuxardchoille: in which case should I run slocate ? if locate runs slocate, why is the need for both of them?05:53
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angelusardchoille: its still new, but the binary driver supports it05:53
ardchoilleVermux: No idea, ask the devs. Maybe they kept "locate" because people who have been using Linux for years are used to locate.05:54
Kobolardchoille: Then why is it crashing...or...whatever it's doing? I certainly don't want to have to use the reboot switch every time I need to shutdown in Linux :P05:54
ardchoilleKobol: I don't know :(05:54
Kobolardchoille: Darn :(05:54
fjpmhi guy i wanna know if someone here know how to configure an nvidia audio driver mcp5105:54
ardchoilleKobol: But I do know that you now have the correct nvidia drivers installed and configured for your card :)05:55
Hamrawhere do i find wmv codecs for kaffeine k3b or amarok, anyone of these programs?05:55
Kobolardchoille: Well good O_O Does this help? When I did alt+F1 there was some kind of like...error report at the top of the screen, saying it couldn't reload an image file? Or some such?05:55
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs05:55
nosrednaekimKobol: maybe the bootsplash..05:55
ardchoille!restrictedformats | Hamra Also see:05:56
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ubotuHamra Also see:: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:56
Koboloops :P05:56
Kobolnosrednaekim: I do have a custom bootsplash, but...I had this problem with the LiveCD and such...So...I'm not sure it's that, but I can try disabling it?05:56
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Hamrathank you all for your help05:57
nosrednaekimKobol: if it happened on the liveCD that probably won't help.05:57
Kobolnosrednaekim: If memory serves it did :S05:57
ardchoilleKobol: Custom bootsplash? Do you shutodwn that often?05:57
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Kobolardchoille: Maybe I'm not clear, not really a bootsplash, so much as just a login splash? Do you know what I mean?05:58
nosrednaekimKobol: try pastebining an old /var/log/messages* like not the one for this current boot, but for the previous.05:58
nosrednaekimKobol: oh a custom login screen?05:58
fjpmhi guy i wanna know if someone here know how to configure an nvidia audio driver mcp5105:58
Kobolnosrednaekim: No :S Heh, let me think, you know under System Preferences, where it says "Splash"? I have a custom one of those I downloaded from KDE-Look.org.05:59
nosrednaekimah... no thats something different.06:00
Kobolnosrednaekim: And...what would be the older one?06:00
ashfaqHow do I restart x server help06:00
nosrednaekim /var/log/messages.106:00
nosrednaekimashfaq: ctrl+alt+bckspace06:00
ardchoilleKobol:  /var/log/messages.1.gz  ?06:00
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nosrednaekimwhoops.... /var/log/messages.006:01
Kobolnosrednaekim: I have a .0 but not a .106:01
Kobolnosrednaekim: Ah ok06:01
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ardchoillewow, I was busy there for a while, lol06:02
Kobolnosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40831/06:02
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ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:03
smarterI've made a patch to fix utf-8 problems with adept(see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/102753 )06:03
schisteIs there any way to perform a "check" on the computer06:03
smartercan someone please review it for inclusion in gutsy?06:03
schisteTo see if there's any package in conflicts/missing etc...06:03
ardchoilleKobol: Is this a laptop?06:04
Kobolardchoille: No O_o Built this computer myself.06:04
smarterschiste: sudo apt-get install -f06:04
schisteha thanks :)06:04
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Kobolardchoille: Nope06:04
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pagsmarter, you might want to ask in #kubuntu-devel06:04
jpatricksmarter: #kubuntu-devel and too late!06:04
nosrednaekimhmm this doesn't show the shutdown part..06:04
Kobolardchoille: It has the ability I believe, but I never understood the difference so...I never went there :S06:04
smarterjpatrick: are you sure?06:05
ardchoilleKobol: lol06:05
jpatricksmarter: string freeze06:05
nosrednaekimsmarter: unless its a serious bug, yes06:05
smarterAnd I've also found a dpkg/adept bug that looks pretty serious but without fix: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/15239606:06
cashhelp me please - how to remount sdrom to executive mode?06:06
jpatricksmarter: please take the devel talk to #kubuntu-devel06:06
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nosrednaekimKobol: not sure where the shutdown log would be..06:07
nosrednaekimcash: do you mean cdrom?06:07
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Kobolardchoille: *Shrug* at the time, I only used Windows, and I'd heard a lot of stuff not working...So I didn't go there :P06:07
cashnosrednaekim yes06:07
cashnosrednaekim I need to remount cdrom to executive ,for installation some soft06:08
nosrednaekimcash: ok yeah... there is a way. just a sec06:08
carlos_Hi, my first time using konversation06:08
Kobolnosrednaekim: Well, I don't know :(06:08
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ardchoilleKobol: You were smart, lots of stuff still doesn't work.06:09
ardchoillehi carlos_06:09
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nosrednaekimcash: unmount it first (safely remove)06:10
Kobolardchoille: So I heard :S And see, I never had like...any of these problems with dapper, so I used to only keep Windows around for gaming. And if WoW didn't run I'd be sad :(06:10
cashnosrednaekim ok done06:10
carlos_hi ardchoille, how are you?06:10
nosrednaekimcash: and then run the command "sudo mount exec /dev/cdrom /mnt"06:10
Kobolardchoille: But I used Linux for lots of work, office stuff mostly.06:11
cashnosrednaekim ojk trying06:11
Kobolardchoille: Now I have all this drama :( lol06:12
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[4N93L] wow O_O06:12
Hamra!info WoW06:12
ubotuPackage wow does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:12
[4N93L] Hamra: WoW is a game. =] 06:12
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php06:12
KobolWoW is World of Warcraft lol06:12
Hamraah, ok06:12
KobolWaltzingAlong: I'd heard about it, never tried it myself, how does it work for you?06:12
WaltzingAlonghas worked well06:13
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=== [4N93L] wondering if anyone has installed LimeWire.
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nosrednaekimcash: did that work?06:13
KobolWaltzingAlong: Ah, see, I heard people saying it was bad performance, so...I didn't even want to attempt it :(06:14
pag!limewire | [4N93L] 06:14
ubotu[4N93L] : limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.06:14
nosrednaekimcash: you'll have to run the exectutable as root too06:14
[4N93L] pag : Gracias. =] 06:14
WaltzingAlongKobol: i have had better performance with it actually through WINE than directly on windows  (be sure to use opengl)06:14
cashnosrednaekim I understand already done ) thank U very much06:14
nosrednaekimcash: nP06:15
tharunHow can I sort my installed packages by date? I installed a lot of packages (~50) using Adept to get something to work, but it was a dead end. I would like to remove these pakages, and I thought that the best way to do this would be by sorting them by install date. Is there any way to do this?06:15
KobolWaltzingAlong: Interesting, well...If I can actually get my computer to bootup and shutdown like it should, I will check that out then.06:15
nosrednaekimtharun: if you installed them all at once, you can view the last dpkg run...06:15
tharun!info java06:15
ubotuPackage java does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:15
ardchoille!info jre06:16
ubotuPackage jre does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:16
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:16
KobolThat what you wanted?06:16
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tharunnosrednaekim: I had to do several dpkg-runs...06:16
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nosrednaekimKobol: do alt+f1 as soon as you start shutting down, it will show a log of what is happening,06:17
Kobolnosrednaekim: Ok...Well I obviously wont be able to copy and paste it anywhere lol06:17
Kobolnosrednaekim: So is there anything I should look for?06:17
nosrednaekimKobol: yeah.. but see what the last thing itrun before it stalls.06:17
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pagtharun, you might want to check /var/log/dpkg.log then.06:18
nosrednaekimand see if its unmounting your disks brefore it stalls06:18
[4N93L] !FrostWire06:18
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:18
ardchoilleKobol: And look for things like "fail" or "error"06:18
KobolOoo O_o Frostwire sounds cool...And I bet it has 99% less spyware too.06:18
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ardchoilleiirc, it's java06:18
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tharunnosrednaekim: Also, I just went to Adept>View>Show Last Dpkg Run and it is empty06:19
nosrednaekimtry pag's06:19
tharun!info pag's06:19
ubotuPackage pags does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:19
Kobolnosrednaekim, ardchoille: I'm going to try restart, and see if I get anything from that, I'll check for stuff as it goes along.06:19
nosrednaekimok see ya Kobol06:20
Kobolrestarting* Yay for incorrect verb tense.06:20
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Vermuxhow do I open WMV files with kubuntu?06:20
paghmm. repeating is "fun": " tharun, you might want to check /var/log/dpkg.log then."06:21
WaltzingAlong!info vlc | Vermux06:21
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ubotuvermux: vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB06:21
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tharunheh... thanks pag, I totally did not see your comment earlier06:21
pagtharun, heh. that happens :)06:21
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Hamrawine was working fine, but now its not, when i tried to configure wine from system settings, the page didnt load and said something about a corrupt upgrade or old modules?06:23
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KobolThat was new, no blinking cursor of doom...I wonder if that was because of what we did ardchoille, or from the ALT+F1. Oh and I got a <WARNING> Libhal failed to shutdown as the last bit, but it did actually shut down.06:24
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user__i just installed kubuntu, put my motorola cellphone (act as gsm modem) via usb, detected as ttyACM0, configure the internet account using KPPP, and now i can chat here, how easy :P06:25
nosrednaekimuser__: sweet :)06:25
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user__but it seem that i cant browse using konqueror: "Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/."06:26
[4N93L] user__ : most of us were not that lucky. :)06:26
paguser__, if you don't use knetworkmanager, disable it.06:26
paguser__, my guess is that it causes that problem (at least it has done so numerous times before)06:27
Kobolnosrednaekim: Oh, I did get an error, it said <WARNING> Libhal (Or Lib-hal, can't remember if it was hyphenated.) failed to shutdown...That was the last bit, but it did actually shut down :)06:27
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nosrednaekimmaybe it was the F106:28
Kobolnosrednaekim: Yeah...I dunno? Maybe?06:28
user__how to disable it pag?06:28
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nosrednaekimtry shutting down without it06:28
Kobolnosrednaekim: Alright, be right back again then06:28
paguser__, hmm... Alt+f2 -> killall knetworkmanager06:28
nosrednaekimuser__: just kill it :)06:28
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user__OMG, you're right! that was knetworkmanager!06:31
VermuxI cant open wmv file from gmail. any suggestions?06:31
tmskeHi, I've changed my boot partition and now I get "error no active partition" at boot, so no grub is shown, boot partition is on /dev/sda7 and boot is checked, does someone know what is wrong?06:31
pagVermux, install w32codecs06:31
VermuxI installed vlc already but it doesn help06:31
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Vermuxit says the associated helper file doesnt exists06:31
nosrednaekimKobol: all working?06:32
Vermuxpag: it says to change the association in preferences06:32
Kobolnosrednaekim: I can shutdown, without any drama! :) But the million dollar question is: Can I logout and back in again? :S06:32
nosrednaekimumm try it?06:32
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Kobolnosrednaekim: About to06:33
pagVermux, afaik: "associated helper file" = codec (which you will get from package I mentioned earlier)06:33
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Vermuxpag: I searched Adept- it doesnt give any result06:34
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=== Kobol cheers!
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pagVermux, w32codecs are in !medibuntu (or !Seveas )06:34
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GuyFromHellHow do i tell kde which channel the volume buttons of my keyboard should work on06:35
Kobol!helpersnack | nosrednaekim06:35
ubotunosrednaekim: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!06:35
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nosrednaekimGuyFromHell: setthat channel as default06:35
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nosrednaekimI LOVE that..06:35
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GuyFromHellnosrednaekim: ... where?06:35
pagGuyFromHell, in kmix?06:35
GuyFromHellsurely not right click kmix->select master channel, because i did that06:36
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nosrednaekimGuyFromHell:oh.. ok06:36
Vermuxpag: Im not doing something right. I searched for these files in adept but it doesnt return results06:36
ardchoilleKobol: Yay!06:36
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pagVermux, do you have either of those repos enabled?06:36
ardchoilleKobol: I believe installing the nvidia drivers definitely helped.06:36
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Kobolardchoille: It works! /cheer All is well...Except the fact that my numlock key doesn't start activated, but I can deal with that later lol06:37
pagVermux, and umm.. are you running 64bit?06:37
Kobolardchoille: Indeed >.> In fact...06:37
Kobol!helpersnack | ardchoille06:37
ubotuardchoille: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!06:37
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ardchoille!numlockx | Kobol06:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about numlockx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:37
Vermuxpag: how do I enable them?06:37
GuyFromHellnosrednaekim: ... any suggestions then? since that didn't work apparently06:37
nosrednaekimardchoille: thats in system settgins somewhere06:37
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Vermuxpag: no, It is 3206:37
pag!medibuntu | Vermux06:38
ubotuVermux: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org06:38
nosrednaekimardchoille: --> Kobol06:38
Kobolnosrednaekim: Oh I have it enabled in the system settings, unless it reset itself :P06:38
ardchoillenosrednaekim: yes, but only for kde.. numlockx does it for all of x06:38
ardchoilleKobol: sudo apt-get install numlockx06:38
Kobolardchoille: Yay, all done? O_o Do I need to configure it to turn it on, or is that the whole point of it? XD06:39
ardchoilleKobol: It does it automagically :)06:40
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Kobolardchoille: Winsauce! :)06:40
ardchoilleThat's the whole point :)06:40
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Kobolardchoille: Do you happen to use Kexi?06:40
ardchoilleKobol: I have it, but never used it06:40
ardchoilleKobol: Ah, ok, I use OO.o for that.. but kexi looks nice.06:41
Vermuxpag: how do I quick add the repository?06:41
Kobolardchoille: Oh :P Darn. I work on a private WoW server, and I'm trying to remotely get to the database from Linux (I use Navicat on Windows) and it's telling me it can't connect...when I have the right info in it :P06:41
pagVermux, are you on Feisty?06:42
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Vermuxkde 3.5.706:42
pag" sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list && wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update "06:42
ardchoilleVermux:  7.04  (year.month)06:42
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Vermuxhow do I check that?06:43
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ardchoilleVermux:  lsb_release -a06:43
LogicalDashHow can I set up the KOrganizer reminder daemon so that it only gives reminders from one of my calendars?06:43
ardchoilleVermux:  lsb_release -a | grep Release06:43
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Vermuxubuntu fiesty 7.0406:44
Vermuxno lsb moduls are available06:44
pagVermux, in that case copy the command I said couple mins ago in Konsole06:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:44
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devianceHow do I cahnge the bootsplash screen?06:44
VermuxType 'sudo' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list06:45
pagdeviance, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto ?06:45
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Vermuxpag: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list06:45
Koboldeviance, I know you can download the themes at kde-look.org, and there is a "How To" on there.06:46
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devianceAh okay06:46
ardchoilleVermux: The word "sudo" doesn't go in the sources.list file06:46
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pagVermux, whops. kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list -> navigate to line 36 -> remove sudo infront of it06:46
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about navicat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:47
KobolOh well, worth a shot :(06:48
Vermuxpag: did it. what now?06:48
pagVermux, " sudo apt-get update "06:48
ardchoilleVermux: saved the file first?06:48
VermuxE: Type 'wget' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list06:48
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ardchoilleVermux: The word "wget" doesn't go in the sources.list file06:49
gnomefreakVermux: remove wget from that line all lines start with deb06:49
ardchoilleVermux: Can you pastebin your sources.list file?06:49
ardchoillehi gnomefreak06:49
gnomefreakhi ardchoille06:49
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ardchoille[4N93L] : not at all06:49
gnomefreak[4N93L] : not reall just makew sure you read it carefully06:49
Vermuxit should start with deb?06:49
gnomefreakas it may remove a package you want06:50
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gnomefreakVermux: yes06:50
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gnomefreakexample look at all the other ones06:50
[4N93L] i'm viewing new packages and downloading them through "aptitude".06:50
[4N93L] :|06:50
VermuxE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead06:51
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nosrednaekim[4N93L] : aptitute is fine06:51
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kexi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:52
[4N93L] nosrednaekim: Thanx. =] 06:52
pagVermux, pastebin your sources.list please ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )06:52
VermuxI only wanted to open a small wmv file and I have to deal with all these things06:52
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KobolAnyone handle Databases? and know of any free Linux database administration tools? I need it to handle MySQL.06:52
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ForgeAuskobol yeah I think theres some you can find in Adept... depending on your repositories06:53
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:53
Vermuxfrom where?06:54
dipeshKobol: tora and mysqladmin are quit cool tools to administrate mysql db's06:54
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Vermuxpag: where is that file?06:55
pagVermux, kate /etc/apt/sources.list opens it in read-only mode06:55
Macrishas anybody run in to trouble upgrading to gutsy while xgl and fglrx are allready installed?06:55
emilsedghknoda is so nice for mysql administration06:56
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Koboldipesh: Oh, perfect! Thank you :)06:56
lup0Macris: what kind of trouble? I had compiz complaining in graphical installation, and had to finish in console06:56
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nosrednaekimMacris: how did you install each?06:56
Vermuxpag: ok...?06:57
Macrisnosrednaekim: what do u mean by aptitude from the ubuntu repos... and i followed the upgrade guide from the website06:57
dipeshpag: probably cause your user has no write-access... try something like alt+f2 and put something like "kdesu -u root kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list" in there... (that executes kwrite as user "root")06:57
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pagdipesh, the task is only to copy contens - no need to write yet ;)06:58
dipeshoh, ok :)06:58
nosrednaekimMacris: ah ok...if you installed wither the drivers or compiz from external repositories, things wouldn't work so well06:58
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Macrislup0: nosrednaekim the thing was, that when i got the upgrade done and booted up, i got no image to login... ie no graphix from kdm06:58
lup0Macris: did the upgrade finish ok?06:59
Vermuxpag: I copied and paste06:59
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pagVermux, could you also give the link to that paste?06:59
Macrislup0: well it crashed to hpa tftpd package and i had to use dpkg --configure -a to finish06:59
lup0Macris: ok, mine worked after having to do that07:00
Macrisbut i got every package upgraded from the gutsy repos07:00
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lup0Macris: and you've checked the rest with some update and dist-upgrade?07:00
Macriseventually i had to boot up in live distro and chroot to change xorg.conf to use ati drivers07:00
KobolI must have the connection info wrong.07:00
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Macrisnow after setting ati drivers, i got x running... but it was so slugish that i havent seen in a long time... reason XGL running without fglrx.07:01
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Macrisfor some reason xgl was run automaticly and not with my special session i made before07:02
nosrednaekimMacris: ah right! xgl gets enabled by default in gutsy if its installed07:02
nosrednaekimMacris: I find it rather annyoing.07:02
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Vermuxpag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40835/07:02
pagVermux, now open the sources.list with " kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list " and copy this ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40836/ ) over your previous version07:02
Macrisyeah, without compiz its too slow to use and u cant run compiz without it07:02
Macriscompiz has some bugs still and i dont want to use it all the time07:03
Macrisbut what is wrong with fglrx???07:03
nosrednaekimMacris: do you have it installed?07:03
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Macrisnosrednaekim: not now, havent got the guts to try it yet... but i will... i read somewhere that restricked drivers need to be reinstalled before they operate properly07:04
nosrednaekimthere is a new restricted-manager in gutsy which makes it really easy07:05
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Macrisyeah i noticed... maybe thats why it does not work when it is allready installed... have to try it soon07:05
Vermuxpag: done07:05
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pagVermux, next thing: " wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update "07:06
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nosrednaekimhey kewr_07:07
Vermuxpag: it doesnt do anything07:07
serkanhi friends07:07
Macriswell, though u guys should know, that i suggest to remove xgl and fglrx before upgrading just to be safe.07:07
pagVermux, hmm.. at all?07:07
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Vermuxpag: ok, it did07:08
VermuxI paste with the " sign07:08
kewr_Ohh, sorry.07:08
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Vermuxpag: now it should work?07:09
nosrednaekimMacris: eh... I can't wait for the new fglrx drivers.07:09
pagVermux, I'd guess... pastebin the output - it'll help me to tell more preciselly07:09
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nosrednaekimMacris: AIGLX? better performance? ahh...07:10
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Macrisnosrednaekim: AIGLX going to be supported by fglrx?07:10
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nosrednaekimMacris: next release, sometime this month.07:10
Vermuxpag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40840/07:10
Macristhat is going to make things so much easier :-D07:10
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nosrednaekimperformance is upto 20x faster too.07:11
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kewr_I should go to the wc.07:11
pagVermux, yup. should work now. try " sudo apt-get install w32codecs "07:11
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lup0nosrednaekim: is it going to work with nvidia?07:12
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nosrednaekimMacris: they released a driver for the highend cards last month that unofficially supports most older ones as well.07:12
nosrednaekimlup0: no.07:12
nosrednaekimMacris: but don't go get it ;)07:12
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Macrisyeah not with my official laptop07:13
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gennarobuona sera07:14
Macrisi got x600... hope it can run kde4 with some nice efects layter this year07:14
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nosrednaekimyeah...AIGLX is coming just in time :)07:15
gennaroi need help07:15
Vermuxpag:  still cant c the movie07:15
nosrednaekimgennaro: whats the problem?07:15
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Vermuxpag: I did open with VLC07:15
pagVermux, did the package got installed?07:15
lup0nosrednaekim: hmm, but will my laptop's integrated intel chip work well with it?07:15
Vermuxit did07:15
nosrednaekimlup0: with what?07:15
winbondi need a icon pack for dolphin, and a login screen replacement, can someone give me some links?07:15
coreymon77!ask | gennaro07:16
Kobolwinbond, kde-look.org07:16
ubotugennaro: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:16
pagVermux, hmm.. try opening it with ie. Kaffeine07:16
lup0nosrednaekim: aiglx07:16
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nosrednaekimlup0: oh! yeah...it should, as well as nvidia nd older ATI'ssuported by the open drivers07:16
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gennaroi've installed kabuntu on a sata hd. I've 2 hd in hardware raid 0 (promise fastTrack) with XP, how i can see this hd (raid 0) on kabuntu?07:17
Vermuxpag: I can hear but cant c anything07:17
KobolI think our SQL server hates Linux O_o07:17
lup0nosrednaekim: where is this 20x performance difference happening?07:17
nosrednaekimlup0: 3d games.07:17
winbondKobol, i know about that one, but all the icon packs that i have tried dont work with dolphin07:17
nosrednaekim!raid | gennaro07:17
ubotugennaro: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO07:17
KobolI can connect just dandy on Navicat, but here it always says connectioned denied.07:17
KobolWinbond, Hmm :S Dunno what to tell you then mate?07:17
VermuxIm installing some updates with aadept07:18
pagVermux, you could also try mplayer - if it won't work either, then I'm out of ideas07:18
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qtemu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:19
Vermuxpag: does kubuntu have mplayer?07:19
coreymon77its on apt07:19
pagVermux, in repos - yes, by default - no.07:19
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pag!info mplayer | Vermux07:20
ubotuvermux: mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9.1 (feisty), package size 3967 kB, installed size 10004 kB07:20
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ismaelHi. I'm trying to resize ntfs but ntfsresize says it cannot resize because the feature is not implemented. What can I do_07:21
tharun!info AIGLX07:21
ubotuPackage aiglx does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:21
lup0!info ntfs-3g07:21
pag!aiglx | tharun07:21
ubotuntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB07:21
ubotutharun: AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl07:21
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:22
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tharunthanks pag, what is the difference between XGL and AIGLX?07:23
devianceAnyone here use quem?07:23
ScorpKingdeviance: what's that?07:23
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about quem - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:24
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deviance!info quem | ScorpKing07:24
ubotuscorpking: Package quem does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:24
pagtharun, iirc XGL requires a special X server, while aixgl runs on-top of existing one07:24
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jdongtharun: Xgl is considered a "hack" while AIGLX is considered the "right way of doing it" -- essentially Xgl is a fake X server, a full-screen window drawn via OpenGL and all the 3D stuff is done inside that fake server, while AIGLX is a modification to the existing X server to allow it to do 3D effects07:24
deviance!info qemu | ScorpKing07:24
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ScorpKingi know it. :D07:24
ubotuscorpking: qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3465 kB, installed size 9460 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)07:24
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo07:24
jdongtharun: that was a really technically inaccurate description and I'm sure some X devs just died inside07:25
Vermuxit cannot be! all I wanted to do is to play wmv file07:25
pagVermux, that's why I prefer open formats :) they do work, what can't be said about .wm*'s07:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:26
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ScorpKingVermux: you need the w32codecs package07:27
Vermuxhow do I check if I have it or not?07:28
pagapt-cache policy w32codecs07:28
llutzapt-cache policy w32codecs07:28
ScorpKingdeviance: what's wrong with qemu?07:28
devianceI was wondering if its easy to install Oes07:29
ScorpKingvirtualbox is better07:29
ScorpKingyes. there is also vmware07:30
dipeshVermux: and if you have a 64bit system w64codecs ;)07:30
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ScorpKingqemu is nice to test kernels and linux distros. it won't run xp07:31
nosrednaekimyeah... Vbox is definately better07:31
Vermux  Installed: 20061022-0medibuntu1+build107:31
Vermux  Candidate: 20061022-0medibuntu1+build107:31
Vermux  Version table:07:31
Vermux *** 20061022-0medibuntu1+build1 007:31
Vermux        500 http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty/non-free Packages07:31
Vermux        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status07:31
ZamberCan anyone help me? Image preview is not working on my kubuntu ;/. Everywhere. kFlickr, konqueror, GwenView. In Gwen no images are recognised ;/ a little preview of what is happening: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8123/kdenoimgei0.jpg I googled but I can't find nothing relevant.07:32
Vermuxdipesh: how do I check if the computer is 32 or 64?07:32
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devianceIf I have an ISO whats better to run this VirtualBox or Qemu07:32
ScorpKinga lot of guys have problems with dns when using dailup connections or connections that authenticate from the box, like some adsl routers. i think i found the problem. :D07:32
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pagVermux, uname -m07:33
nosrednaekimZamber: do you have image previews turned on in konqueror?07:33
lup0nosrednaekim: how can I get aiglx acting?07:33
nosrednaekimlup0: what graphics card do you have?07:33
dipeshVermux: e.g. with "sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep model"07:33
Zambernosrednaekim naturally07:33
ScorpKingthere is /etc/ppp/resolve.conf stores dns for dailup connections.07:33
lup0nosrednaekim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy <- This one didn't do anything07:33
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nosrednaekimZamber: hum07:33
Kobol:( Was just trying to play some music off of my Windows HD, opened an MP3 in Amarok, and it asks to "Install MP3 support" and then crashes :P07:33
lup0nosrednaekim: got an i810 compatible intel graphics chip07:34
Zambernosrednaekim I managed to take this issue down a couple of times07:34
nosrednaekimlup0: its already enabled then.07:34
lup0nosrednaekim: where do I set it on?07:34
nosrednaekimZamber: you mean you have fixed it b4?07:34
deviancenosrednaekim & ScorpKing : If I have an ISO whats better to run this VirtualBox or Qemu07:34
Zambernosrednaekim it looks like there is some lib missing07:34
nosrednaekimlup0: it is on by default07:34
pagKobol, enable !multiverse and then install "libxine-extracodecs" package07:34
Zambernosrednaekim no, I just tried to ;)07:34
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lup0nosrednaekim: how can I see some action?07:34
ScorpKingKobol: run sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs07:35
nosrednaekimZamber: try running dophin from the terminal..... and see if there are any errors07:35
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nosrednaekimZamber: the command is "d3lphin" BTW07:35
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nosrednaekimlup0: install beryl07:35
nosrednaekim!beryl | lup007:35
Vermuxdipesh: model 1007:35
devianceCompiz fusion is wayy better :P07:35
ubotulup0: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged.  Help in #ubuntu-effects - see also !compiz07:35
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:36
Vermuxdipesh: 1000 esther07:36
ScorpKingdeviance: what OS is in the iso?07:36
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nosrednaekimthis is fiesty...compiz-fusion isn't in the repositories yet..07:36
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dipeshVermux: or just try the "uname -m" like suggested by pag :)07:36
devianceScorpKing: Ubuntu 7.10 RC and a few other linux distros07:36
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ardchoillenosrednaekim: And it never will be, unless it ends up in backports, but doubtfull07:37
ScorpKingyou can use qemu for that but i suggest you look at virualbox some time.07:37
Zambernosrednaekim a list of:07:37
Zamberd3lphin: WARNING: Pixmap not found for mimetype application/x-crossover-jpg07:37
Zamberd3lphin: WARNING: Pixmap not found for mimetype application/x-crossover-png07:37
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nosrednaekimardchoille: then why is that ubnotu reccomending fusion? getting ready for gutsy?07:37
dipeshVermux: so, 32bit... sudo apt-get install w32codecs07:37
ardchoillenosrednaekim: Probably07:37
nosrednaekimZamber: odd.... file a bug.07:37
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Vermuxit is installed07:38
ardchoillenosrednaekim: Once a release has been made, usually the only things that get added to the repos are bugfixes and security updates. New apps don't end up there after release.07:38
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Kobolpag, ScorpKing: Thanks you two :)07:38
ScorpKingnp :D07:38
nosrednaekimardchoille: yeah..I know.07:38
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dipeshVermux: and xine does not play the wmv file?07:38
ScorpKinghiya whkapper07:39
whkapperyo wassup07:39
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Vermuxdipesh: what is xine?07:39
whkapperdo you know how to lock a ubuntu workstation07:39
ScorpKingheh. i just close my laptop screen. :D07:40
ardchoillewhkapper: ctrl+alt+l07:40
whkappernope, doesn't do n e thing07:40
whkapperim using a terminal at school07:40
dipeshVermux: eh, or kmplayer... well, xine, mplayer and vlc are the 3 major players... kmplayer as well as totem are just frontends for them07:40
Zambernosrednaekim don't think so ;) mu ubu was upgraded 6.10 -> 7.04 -> 7.10, the image issue appeared recently when I was still on 7.04. By the time I had gnome, kde and fluxbox installed a couple of times ;) (most of the time - at the same time ;P).07:40
ardchoillewhkapper: Then they removed that key combo07:51
nosrednaekimZamber: huh..07:51
ScorpKingwhkapper: it should be in the menu07:51
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ardchoilleScorpKing: He's on a terminal at school, they likely customised it07:51
tharunI have been trying to use Dasher 4.6.0, and it crashes every time I try to change the language. Anyone know where I can get more help on this?07:51
whkapperjust checked the kb shortcuts, its ctrl-shift-L, but when i press it i get "Couldn't execute command: xscreensaver-command -lock"07:51
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ardchoilletharun: You probably won't get much help here since you installed a vers that wasn't in the repos.. which could be why you're having trouble07:51
Vermuxdipesh: I searched for xine in adept- dont c it in the list07:51
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ardchoille!info xine07:51
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ubotuPackage xine does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:51
ardchoille!info xine-ui07:51
ubotuxine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4+dfsg+cvs20061111-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1483 kB, installed size 3532 kB07:51
dipeshVermux: "sudo apt-get install xine-ui"07:51
dipeshoh, to slow :)07:51
ardchoilleVermux: it's in universe07:51
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ScorpKinglol. i need to cook and eat. :P07:51
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dipeshScorpKing: I guess most of us depend on that 8-)07:51
Vermuxdipesh: I downloaded it, what now?07:51
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KobolCan someone tell me: If you delete a playlist in Amarok, does it delete the playlist file, or just remove the playlist from Amarok?07:51
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dipeshVermux: well, right-click on the wmv-file and choose "open with..."07:51
Vermuxdipesh: ok, but I dont c it in the list07:51
nosrednaekimKobol: I think it deletes the whole playlist file in .kde/share/apps/amarok/playlists07:51
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dipeshVermux: if the program isn't in the list then choose "other..." and put "xine" into the inputbox07:51
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Kobolnosrednaekim: Oh that's fine, I just didn't want it to delete my playlist on WIndows O_o lol07:51
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dipeshVermux: "Open with..." => "Other..." I was meaning07:51
nosrednaekimKobol: oh wait... you importted a playlist?07:51
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newsense07whats the key combination to bring up xkill , i forget ?07:51
Vermuxthe computer now is slow and not responding, how do I close xine07:51
kuhips -u07:51
kuhisearch for xine number07:51
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kuhithe kill07:51
whkapperkillall xine07:51
kuhithen kill*07:51
dipeshVermux: to close xine press the "q" key (quit)... the "g"-key does btw toggle the ui07:51
anuliapipls help07:51
anuliai need help07:51
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dipeshor just killall like outlined by whkapper above (what a rude way :)07:51
whkapper:P it works07:51
dipeshyeah :)07:51
Kobolnosrednaekim: it did it, either way I deleted it :P It's old anyway, all my playlists are now iTunes thanks to my iPod addiction O_o Those are old Winamp playlists it imported that I never deleted.07:51
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(subramani/#kubuntu) how to setup kbfx?08:16
(ardchoille/#kubuntu) subramani: install it. then right-click on the panel and choose "add" then find kbfx in the menu and add it to the panel.08:17
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:17
ardchoillekbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB08:18
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tharunSo, anyone know what I could do to fix my problem with dasher? Or does anyone know an irc channel that could help further?08:18
ardchoilletharun: Doesn't the dasher in the repos work?08:18
lokpestAnybody here that knows when the Kubuntu bleeding edge KDE repository is going to have KDE3.5.8?08:18
nosrednaekimlokpest: you can get it from Riddell'sPPA08:19
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nosrednaekimlokpest: but only for gutsy08:19
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ardchoillelokpest: I doubt it'll ever be in the Feisty repos08:19
lokpestok, will check it out friday then08:19
subramaniardchoille: thanks08:19
ardchoillesubramani: Be aware that kbfx eats a lot of cpu cycles.08:20
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lokpestso when upadting to gutsy, its recomended to delete and redo the bleeding edge repro I guess08:21
subramaniardchoille: okie08:21
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nosrednaekimlokpest: yeah.08:21
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nosrednaekimlokpest: erase all but the default ubuntu repositories08:21
lokpestok :)08:22
muzycaleshi guys could anybody can help me install opengroupware.org? the calendar?08:22
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ardchoillemuzycales: http://opengroupware.org/en/install/ubuntu/index.html08:24
Vermuxhow do I creates a file in the cmd?08:25
ardchoillemuzycales: That's a bit outdated (Warty) I would recommend installing from source.08:25
ardchoilleVermux: touch /path/filename08:25
Olgem_touch me, fsck me, finger ---08:26
tharunardchoille: Dasher 4.6.0 from the repos it crashes every time I try to change the language from the settings. Also (just noticed this), it gets stuck once it goes past a certain number of letters.08:26
Vermuxardchoille: the word path? or I give the path?08:26
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lokpestkind of stupid question I guess, but....08:26
lokpestIf I want the whole kde to be installed?08:26
ardchoilletharun: gutsy help in #ubuntu+108:26
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lokpestIts the kde package in adept?08:27
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ardchoillelokpest: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:27
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muzycalesthanks ardchoille I'll try to install it from the source08:27
lokpestardchoille: I have kubuntu and thus kubuntu-desktop08:28
muzycalesI'll let u knwo if I'll get any problem installing08:28
tharunardchoille: k... will try there, thank you for being patient with me :)08:28
ardchoillemuzycales: Good luck, that suite looks rather large08:28
ardchoilletharun: np :)08:28
lokpestI thougt there was some package that Istalled all kde apps08:28
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ardchoillelokpest: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:28
Vermuxardchoille: do I have to give the full path every time?08:28
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ardchoilleVermux: Only if you want to create the file in a different directory than the one you're currently in08:28
ardchoilleVermux: Unless you have lib-read-my-mind.so.0 installed ;)08:29
Vermuxardchoille: but I created a file and it created it in the root instead of the current location08:29
lokpestardchoille: I have kubuntu-desktop installed08:29
lokpestbut I want to Install all kde apps08:30
ardchoillelokpest: Then you have kde installed, unless you uninstalled parts of it that took out deps08:30
muzycalesOk so I got my file and for debian (I'm using ubuntu 7.0.4) but I get this error message Error: dependency is not satisfiable: libopengroupware.org-db-project5.3 so what should I do?08:30
ardchoillemuzycales: don't use debian packages in ubuntu. Not only is it not safe, it'll lead you into dependency hell08:30
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lokpestardchoille: yes I have kde installed08:31
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ardchoilleVermux: it created the file in /root (root's home directory)?08:31
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lokpestbut I want all kde apps, krita, koffice etc08:31
muzycalesardchoille what do u recomand me to use instead?08:32
nosrednaekimlokpest: install them,but no there is not a meta-package08:32
ardchoillelokpest: those aren't kde core apps. you need to install koffice08:32
tharunlokpest: try restarting into KDE. sudo /etc/init.d/kdm08:32
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nosrednaekimtharun: whaa?08:32
ardchoilletharun: huh?08:32
lokpestso there is no such thing as a metapackage that installs all kde apps?08:33
Vermuxardchoille: it created it under /$. what does it mean?08:33
Vermuxardchoille: probably because I typed / before the filename08:33
ardchoilleVermux: do you have a directory named "$"?08:33
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sub[t] rnlgreets all08:34
ardchoillemuzycales: What exactly are you trying to accomplish?08:34
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ardchoille!bash | Vermux I recommend you read this08:34
ubotuVermux I recommend you read this: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:34
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Vermuxardchoille: I have something similar to name@name:/$08:35
ardchoilleover ssh?08:35
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muzycalesardchoille: I'm trying to fallow the instalation procces from the source (web page) they say that for ubuntu the debian way to install it is the same08:37
muzycalesso I use the links and download the deb pack08:37
ardchoillemuzycales: If you start installing debian packages, you're going to end up with lots of problems. I don't care what the website says, it's just not safe.08:38
nosrednaekimmuzycales: is ther another deb there called "lib something-or-other"?08:38
muzycalesthere are deb packs and the source code08:40
ardchoillemuzycales: The proper and safe way to manage apps is: Iinstall from the repos. if you can't do that, look for an ubuntu package. If you can't get that, compile from source. If you can't do that, don't use the app. There are lots of people who will tell you things because it worked for them. But, that doesn't mean it will be safe for your system.08:51
Vermuxcan I use coredless telephone for voip and for regular line, each on eon seperate line?08:51
muzycalesso how can I know if I have that app in my reps?08:51
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ardchoillemuzycales: apt-cache search packagename  . but that suite isn't in the fiesty repos08:51
ardchoille!info opengroupware08:51
ubotuPackage opengroupware does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:51
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muzycaleswell I have the source shoud I try to compilate?08:51
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ardchoillemuzycales: There are other groupware apps in the repos, tho: egroupware and phpgroupware08:51
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muzycalesthe prob. is that I need the group-calendar08:51
ardchoillemuzycales: phpgroupware and egroupware both have calendars08:51
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atlfalcons866can i install kde4 on top of kde08:51
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nosrednaekimatlfalcons866: at the same time, yes08:51
atlfalcons866it wont overwrite anything08:51
ardchoillemuzycales: and, iirc, korganizer/kontact can do groupware stuff08:51
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muzycalesardchoille: yes but they have some user /profiles and group postnot-it08:51
ardchoilleAh, ok08:51
muzycalesfor dynamic interaction08:51
nosrednaekimatlfalcons866: nope08:51
atlfalcons866it will be like install gnome or xfce on kubuntu08:51
nosrednaekimatlfalcons866: yeah08:51
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muzycalesardchoille: how deep the Kontact/korganizer works in group so far?08:51
ardchoillemuzycales: No idea, I never used it. But a friend of mine uses it to connect to her work calendar.08:51
Eyelesswhat do i need to do to make a chroot jail (my 32bit env) see my homepartition as if it where a hd (currently i can only see a sysfs from inside the jail)08:51
atlfalcons866is it normal for ext3 to stall with large files 2GB>08:51
muzycalesardchoille: and the calendar server /interface is comun? like group stuff?08:51
ardchoillemuzycales: Try asking in #kde and see if they can point you in the right direction08:51
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muzycalesardchoille: thanks the prob. is I'm using gnome (ubuntu) not kubuntu08:51
ardchoilleatlfalcons866: Doesn't stall here08:51
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ardchoillemuzycales: Then you should be in #ubuntu08:51
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WaltzingAlongEyeless: setting in /etc/fstab to bind the directory /home to /chroot32/home08:51
muzycalesyou'r right the prob. is they don't answer :P08:51
atlfalcons866will using jfs be faster08:51
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(Eyeless/#kubuntu) i can write to my /home from inside the jail, but cant see how much space is used with df08:54
(nosrednaekim/#kubuntu) Zamber: heh.... good job!08:54
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ubotuxfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS08:55
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.08:55
ardchoilleiirc, the benefits in reiserfs aren't apparent unless you're working with huge files08:56
atlfalcons866what fs would you recommend08:57
Eyelessardchoille: wasnt it for working with lots of small files(100k in a directory)?08:57
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atlfalcons866how does ext3 journal its data08:58
atlfalcons866jfs journals metadata only08:58
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atlfalcons866what part of kde4 should i install08:59
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ardchoilleEyeless: I thought it was large files.. but I could be wrong.08:59
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Eyelessardchoille: it could be large files aswell :P09:00
atlfalcons866should i just install kde4 base09:00
ardchoilleEyeless: I asked a friend about that and he said "the benefits of reiserfs aren't apparent until you have to hide a corpse"09:00
Eyelessardchoille: that on the other hand might be true :P09:01
ardchoilleatlfalcons866: kde4 is barely usable at this point09:01
atlfalcons866ardchoille: is that for the gutsy resportoyrs09:01
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ardchoilleatlfalcons866: No idea, gutsy help is in #ubuntu+109:01
atlfalcons866reiserfs isnt devloped anymore09:01
ardchoilleatlfalcons866: It isn't? Didn't know that.09:02
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atlfalcons866hans reiser got arrested09:02
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llutzhttp://www.namesys.com/ still exists and develeops09:03
llutzatlfalcons866: ^^09:03
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atlfalcons866my bad09:03
geniiScorpKing: :)09:04
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atlfalcons866resiserfs v3 ceased devolpment09:04
atlfalcons866Namesys considers ReiserFS (now occasionally referred to as Reiser3) stable and feature-complete and, with the exception of security updates and critical bug fixes, has thus ceased development on it to concentrate on its successor, Reiser4.09:04
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ardchoilleAh, ok09:06
atlfalcons866the only activly devoped filesystem at this point is ext2/ext309:07
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atlfalcons866IBM ceased supporting JFS09:09
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llutzatlfalcons866:  + ext409:10
geniiAFS is still being developed. but of course your average home user has not much use for it09:11
atlfalcons866whats AFS09:11
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atlfalcons866toy mean XFS09:11
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geniialtfalcons866:: http://www.openafs.org/09:12
geniiWeird. Konversation's tab completetion here seems broken09:12
atlfalcons866i am going to try kde4 now09:12
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ardchoillegenii: There several options for that09:13
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srednawhat are the UUID strings in /etc/fstab?09:14
ardchoille!uuid | sredna09:14
ubotusredna: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)09:14
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geniisredna: Basically unique identifiers so that a removable disk which may may appear as sda one day sdb another day sdc yet another day will always be recognised as the same disk and mounted into the proper place09:16
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xenolcan someone tell me how can i completely remove wolfenstein enemy territory and tc:elite?09:16
srednagenii: so, when i want to add a new partition to hold /var, should i find the UUID?09:17
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geniisredna: It would be prudent, yes09:17
srednagenii: ty :)09:18
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geniisredna: np09:18
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srednanow, when adding a partition for /var, is there a smar way to free the space on the /partition (except booting a livecd)?09:19
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ScorpKingsredna: you could try qtparted. don't think it will work tho.09:21
srednaScorpKing: well, i rather want to get rid of the current /var directory09:21
ScorpKingmount a loopback fs over /var. lol09:22
sredna(and what happens if i don't, since there will be /dev/hda1/var and /dev/hda2 mounted on /var?)09:22
ScorpKingwhatever you mount last will be used.09:23
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srednai hope 10g space on /var will make apt happy, but honestly, i fear it will just say that i requires 14g09:24
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ScorpKingyou could mount a clean disk over /var right now and /var will be empty.09:24
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO09:24
ScorpKingsredna: better to boot from a live cd and fix it properly.09:24
srednaScorpKing: fix what?09:24
ScorpKingthe size problem09:25
srednahow do you suggest i do that?09:25
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ScorpKingboot from the live cd, copy /var to new <disk> and add an entry to fstab.09:26
srednai dont even think i have a livecd09:26
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srednai did copy the contents of /var09:27
ScorpKingheh. that could be a problem. partitions won't resize if they're mounted09:27
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srednawhy should it resize?09:27
ScorpKingsredna: sorry, i need to go. hope you come right.09:27
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ScorpKingnite guys!09:28
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lee986321wahts the command form updating from a cd rom?09:34
lee986321lets say I have version 10 on a cd rom and I want to up date it09:34
lee986321I mean up grade09:34
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choco_hopperi got my video-card (geforce nx7600gt) to work now but there are still two problems09:39
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choco_hoppera.) my xkbmap changes on every boot to "us" instead of "de";  b.) my computer crashes on opening a menu in blender09:39
choco_hopperany suggestions?09:39
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WaltzingAlongchoco_hopper: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:42
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blendtuxhi WaltzingAlong, I was  wondering did you have gmailfs yourself installed09:45
WaltzingAlongblendtux: no09:45
WaltzingAlongnot not, have used the windows version09:45
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blendtuxhave used the windows version, why did you stop using it09:46
WaltzingAlongstopped using windows09:46
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blendtuxoke are you planning to use it on linux09:47
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geniilee986321: You just copied the later file to a cd?09:47
WaltzingAlongblendtux: i have not been but thought of trying it out once09:48
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gennaroi need help09:49
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gennarohelp me09:50
keith_bHi gennaro. What's up?09:50
MinatakuWould help us if we knew what kind of help you needed09:50
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gennaroi can't see my sata hd (raid 0) on kabuntu09:50
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gennaroi've 2 hd in sata 0 with promise fastTrack09:51
MinatakuYou know that RAID 0 is an abhorrent abuse of RAID and actually puts you at a multiplied risk of total data loss, right?09:51
MinatakuJust checking09:51
gennarobut i need space09:51
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keith_bI've never worked with RAID on Linux, but hopefully one of these other folk can help.  Best of luck.09:51
MinatakuAs for your issue, check that Linux can actually see the device09:52
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MinatakuThe RAID card09:52
MinatakuNot the array09:52
gennaronow i see09:52
lucahi everyone09:52
MinatakuIf the RAID card is unsupported in Linux, then naturally you won't see the array09:52
WaltzingAlongblendtux: have you been using it?09:52
gennaroon ubuntu09:52
lucacan someone help me? I have watchdog running...but I do NOT have it installed!09:53
gennaroi've used the array09:53
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gennaroon ubunt i used dmraid09:53
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO09:53
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blendtuxehm, no i get an error message its not wokring, i was hoping you could install it and try it ou t09:53
MinatakuTry that first link09:53
gennaroi've tried it09:53
MinatakuAnd possibly the second as well09:53
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gennaroi don't understand some step09:54
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gennaroi download the dmraid09:54
xenolhello. i d like to ask if linux creates smth like fragmentation and if so how can i remove it?09:54
gennarobut i can't install it09:54
herois there a kde version of ghost?09:54
gennaroit's not work09:54
tommymannI'm having problems installing kdenlive from source09:54
gennaroi need the array09:54
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tommymannnot very talkative today09:56
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MinatakuSorry, I've never used RAID myself09:57
MinatakuI've hit my knowledge limit09:58
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ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO09:58
gennarowhati is LVM?09:58
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KaTethello, anybody here?10:01
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ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs10:02
mk6can you help me? I'm trying to use 2 networks at once. 1st network is wireless and the 2nd is LAN. When I'm getting IP from any of these networks, I'm disconecting with the network I was connected. How I can use them together? I'm a proud member of Kubuntu FF. Thanks10:02
boggystudiosdoes any one here know how to import mail into Mozilla thunderbird from MS Outlook?10:02
blendtuxwhat is Kubuntu FF mk610:03
ubotuOn IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>10:03
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hero!g4l > hero10:03
mk6Kubuntu Feisty Fawn10:03
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mk6Kubuntu 7.0410:03
blendtuxoh oke10:04
orionboggystudios: Sounds like a fairly well known problem have you asked the net?10:05
orionfeisty Fawn10:05
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boggystudiosorion: yes I have googled it but all I can find is the Thunderbird FAQ but it is of no help10:06
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mk6blendtux: do you know how to do it?10:06
WaltzingAlongblendtux: which errors?10:06
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WaltzingAlongboggystudios: install thunderbird on the machine with outlook. thunderbird will ask to import it10:07
blendtuxehm, i followed the tutorial you gave me WaltzingAlong10:07
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blendtuxare you installing it WaltzingAlong10:08
germanhello i am having trouble trying to delete files from a disc hardisk10:08
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LogicalDashWhen I close my laptop and then open it and try to unlock it, I can't enter my password. With SCIM disabled, I can. Is this a known bug?10:08
germanand when i close dolphin, it tells me there is some error and that it seems like my disk is full but it aint10:08
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nosrednaekimgerman: if may... run a "df" and pastebin the results10:09
WaltzingAlongblendtux: installed. mounted10:09
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oriongerman: try df -h10:10
blendtuxyou are kidding me10:10
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blendtuxwhat kubuntu are you runniing10:10
WaltzingAlongblendtux: reported a 404 bad request error, but shows with mount that it is mounted10:10
WaltzingAlongattempting to use it10:10
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blendtuxi got something no end point something10:11
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geniigennaro: Because the controller should be doing the RAID and not software i think more you just want the driver installed for the FastTrack card. Should be something like /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_promise.ko    although the exact kernel name/version may be different on your computer. Are you able to boot the system at all, or is it supposed to be booting from that RAID0 ?10:11
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WaltzingAlongblendtux: should be a gmailfs.log with errors.10:15
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ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO10:17
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blendtuxits says i dont have ssl installed10:17
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WaltzingAlongblendtux: python-pyopenssl perhaps?10:21
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orionpicachu: I khoose you!10:23
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picachuorion, :)10:23
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blendtuxoke installed10:24
blendtuxit seems to be mounted10:24
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blendtuxbut when i cd to my mounted direcotry i get this message10:25
blendtuxroot@blendtux-laptop:/media# cd gmail10:25
blendtuxbash: cd: gmail: Transport endpoint is not connected10:25
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MrBallZquestion: could it be good to wait until kde 4.0 is released , in order to upgrade to Gutsy  ???? any opinions ??10:27
nosrednaekimMrBallZ: no, Gutsy won't have KDE4 by default10:28
WaltzingAlongMrBallZ: use gutsy. some months later. use kde410:28
WaltzingAlongblendtux: i get no space left on disk10:28
WaltzingAlongtis all for now10:28
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MrBallZnosrednaekim: i know, that's why the question , if it's good to wait so i can get gutsy at the time kde 4 is available ...10:29
emilsedghGO KDE4, GO!10:29
nosrednaekimMrBallZ: nah... not really.10:29
WaltzingAlongMrBallZ: yes you could wait until kde4 is available for gutsy to use gutsy10:29
nosrednaekimI just some more screenshots of it.... really sweet10:29
MrBallZWaltzingAlong: is kde 4 still buggy on top of gutsy ?10:29
WaltzingAlongkde4 is hardly usable yet10:30
WaltzingAlongin my experience anyway10:30
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blendtuxkde4 will be delayed again10:30
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MrBallZerrr ...10:30
MrBallZnot good then to wait that long10:30
blendtuxwell it should, i installed the beta2 but this was more like a pre-alpha in mine opinion10:31
WaltzingAlongi can see it coming out as expected but i would not advise anyone to use it (just for development yet)10:31
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blendtuxthis is a very important release, better safe then sorry10:31
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WaltzingAlongsome things work, it is just not meant to replace your current desktop environment, yet10:33
joshjoshWhere can I add things to startup, like the "sessions" in gnome?10:33
WaltzingAlonguntil tomorrow (or later today for some of you)10:33
WaltzingAlongjoshjosh: ~/.kde/Autostar10:33
WaltzingAlongjoshjosh: ~/.kde/Autostart10:33
nosrednaekimjoshjosh: get the "kcontrol-autostart" program.10:34
joshjoshdownload it then start it?10:34
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ultimate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:34
joshjoshhow do is tart it? Just kcontrol-autostart?10:35
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MrBallZso for gutsy upgrade over internet, just check Pre-releases on Adept ... and wait until everything is done right ???10:36
joshjoshMrBallZ, what version are you using now?10:37
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MrBallZjoshjosh: Feisty10:37
joshjoshMrBallZ, You're going to have to do a -dist upgrade10:38
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MrBallZjoshjosh: so better from command line ...10:38
nosrednaekimjoshjosh: start up "kcontrol" and it will be in there somewhere10:38
MrBallZquestion:  whick backup solution do you guys prefer:  Konserve  or Keep ?10:39
joshjoshMrBallZ, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f5210:39
joshjoshnosrednaekim, Thakns!10:39
joshjoshthanks. i'm smart10:39
MrBallZjoshjosh: thnx10:39
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kruegmarHi, truecrypt for Gutsy only as source ??10:40
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MrBallZquestion:  whick backup solution do you guys prefer:  Konserve  or Keep ?10:41
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frodeit seems as i have an instance of adept running, but i dont know how to find it and quit it. i am not able to start ut adept, get the message that an other instance is running, i must quit that first. is there a prosess manager somewhere?10:44
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:45
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nosrednaekimfrode: and yes, try "ps -ax" from the konsole or ctrl+esc for the graphical tool.10:46
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frodeok i did not find it in the processes, so i will try what ubotu told10:48
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ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!10:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:48
kruegmarps -ef | grep adept10:49
nosrednaekimhero: looking for GIS softwre?10:49
nosrednaekimhero: the only one I know of for linux is Grass10:49
nosrednaekim!info grass10:49
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ubotugrass: Geographic Resources Analysis Support System. In component universe, is extra. Version 6.0.2-6ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 6039 kB, installed size 14628 kB10:49
nosrednaekimpretty compicated though10:50
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AnarchHow can I control the font used by KDE for stuff like menus?  After the recent upgrade it got way too big & I don't see where to configure it.  It shows up in Firefox as well as Konsole so it's not KDE-specific, but it seems to pervade Kubuntu.10:50
heronosrednaekim: you say that like it's a bad thing10:51
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dwangoacAnarch: I had the same dang problem - even at 1920x1200 it was still huge10:51
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dwangoacAnarch: I used Kubuntu's System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts menu to force it to 96 DPI fonts10:52
nosrednaekimhero: you decide :)10:52
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frodeadept is fixed... thank you :)10:53
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Anarchdwangoac: Thanks for the clue; I'm at 1280x1024 so you can imagine how I'm suffering.  I'll try that menu.10:53
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dwangoacAnarch: I was really surprised how much changing the fonts altered the way menus looked.  You'll probably have to restart X / KDE10:53
heronosrednaekim: i wonder how one could use GIS stuff in a non-academic context10:53
kharlosshi there . i need upgrade my PHP vers 5.1  to latest version. I have ubuntu server 6.10 . what`s next ?a10:54
heronosrednaekim: how it would be useful, i mean10:54
nosrednaekimhero: my dad uses it for rockhouding, to trace geologic features10:54
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germanand when i close dolphin, it tells me there is some error and that it seems like my disk is full but it aint10:54
nosrednaekimgerman: what does df tell you about how full your disk is?10:54
heronosrednaekim: cool10:54
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germani got several partitions but only one is on 90%10:55
wesleyhow can i see if i use the final kubuntu version or the rc? by upgrading there did not stand that i was upgrading to the rc but kubuntu 7.1010:55
nosrednaekimhero: so yeah.... its pretty useful, its really nice as NJ did an aeril survey of the state, so we have high-res photos of the whole state that we can lay over maps and such.10:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autopackage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:55
germanand that is the partition i got kubuntu on10:56
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Daisuke_Laptopautopackage sounds...  intriguing.10:56
nosrednaekimgerman: hmmm. try deleting some stuff, it may just be a warning..10:56
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Laptop: yeah... not really well supported though.10:56
Daisuke_Laptopgerman: sudo apt-get clean10:56
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wesleyis it possible that i upgraded to the official version?10:57
Daisuke_Laptopclean out your package cache, that could help10:57
germanthe thing is it does not allow me to delete stuff10:57
germanfrom other drives,10:57
nosrednaekimwesley: what does "uname -a" say?10:57
germancould it be that when it is gping to move something to trash it has to place it in the kubuntu drive?10:57
nosrednaekimwesley: yup10:58
nosrednaekimgerman: do you have a separate /home partition?10:58
wesleydo i need to run that in terminial to know the version?10:58
nosrednaekimwesley: yeah10:58
germannope, i did a root partition of 5.5 Gb and a swap partition of almost 2 Gigd10:59
nosrednaekimwesley: or "lsb_release -a"10:59
wesleyLinux zangetsu 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux  that says it10:59
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nosrednaekimwesley: release candidate.10:59
wesleyDistributor ID: Ubuntu10:59
wesleyDescription:    Ubuntu 7.1010:59
wesleyRelease:        7.1010:59
wesleyCodename:       gutsy10:59
nosrednaekimyour clock is off BTW ;)11:00
wesleythat says it11:00
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nosrednaekimyeah... you are running gutsy, but the final hasn't been released yet11:00
wesleyno that will be the 18 be realesed but this one is with kde 3,5.811:01
wesleythere doest stand thats its a rc11:01
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dwangoacOK, I'll jump into the fray with a question - I did a fresh install of Gutsy Kubuntu RC and running synergys reports no errors but I cannot connect to the Synergy server from any other computer.11:02
nosrednaekimit is11:02
germanhow could i possibly change the size of my partition to kubuntu?11:02
germani can't see the drive from windows11:02
germanis there any aplication for it on kubuntu?11:02
dwangoacgerman: Boot from a live disc :)11:03
germanadn reinstall?11:03
dwangoac(OK, that wasn't helpful, but...)11:03
Daisuke_Laptopgerman: boot from the live cd and use gparted11:03
ardchoilledwangoac: Gutsy help in #ubuntu+111:03
germanwhat do i do from the kubuntu live cd then?11:03
dwangoacardchoille: Thanks!11:03
Daisuke_Laptopyou will be able to resize your kubuntu partition11:03
wesleyupgrading from 7.04 seems to be better11:03
germangparted ? where do i find it on the disk?11:03
Daisuke_Laptopin the menu.11:03
germanwhat sixe do you got?11:04
germanwhat is the apropiate i mean?11:04
Daisuke_Laptopit's a live cd, you find it the same place any other app would be11:04
Vermuxhow do I delete a file in cmd?11:04
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Daisuke_LaptopVermux: assuming you mean a shell, use rm11:05
ardchoilleVermux: I sent you a link that teaches you how to do things from the command line11:05
ardchoille!bash | Vermux Please read this11:05
ubotuVermux Please read this: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal11:05
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ardchoilleyw.. again11:05
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wesleyexporting in kdenlive doest go right11:06
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germanhi at my univerity they got both unix and windows,11:14
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germanwhen you load unix, you cant writte windows on the terminal and it opens a windows loading windows Xp11:15
atlfalcons866can i install kubuntu on an ntfs parition11:15
germanany idea how i coul do that in my pc?11:15
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Daisuke_Laptopgerman: chances are they're using virtual machines11:17
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Daisuke_Laptopatlfalcons866: no, no you cannot, not at this point.11:17
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germanwhat does that mean?11:17
Daisuke_Laptopgerman: it means they're probably using VMs11:17
Vermuxwhats the difference between /$ and ~$?11:18
Daisuke_Laptop"windows" is probably a link to run a preconfigured qemu session running windows,11:18
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Daisuke_Laptopyes, qemu11:19
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ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo11:19
germanso that is how i could run that on my pc?11:20
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hordeI want to set up a user account for ssh but want to confine the user to a single directory (recursively) with read/write priviliges.  But I'm a newb and don't know how.  Any help?11:23
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dorkfaceis anyone familiar with nvidia-settings?11:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-settings - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:24
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administratorhow can i get mpeg files to play with kaffiene on kubuntu?11:24
hellcattravclamav had dependency errors...whats up with that?11:26
emilsedgh!mp3 | administrator11:26
ubotuadministrator: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:26
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jon__can somebody help me make my kubuntu look nice11:28
jon__ill show you a pic of what i want it to look like :] 11:28
ardchoillejon__: Sure, what do you want?11:29
administratorno die11:29
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ardchoillejon__:  btw, http://www.kde-look.org is a very nice website for lots of stuff.11:29
jon__ardchoille: ill get you a pic of what i want it to look like :] 11:29
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jon__ive been tere before11:30
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jon__i don't know half the stuff to do11:30
jon__ardchoille: can we privet chat?11:30
ardchoilleGimme a pic and I'll try to help11:30
ardchoillejon__: join #ardchoille11:30
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administratorvlc player keeps freezing up11:32
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Minatakuadministrator: Your computer is too cold?11:34
MinatakuThere's any number of possibilities as to why it's locking up11:35
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Aranelhow can I see kubuntu 7.10 countdown ?11:44
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sven_oostenbrinkCould anybody tell me when will the new kubuntu 7.10 be available?11:51
sven_oostenbrinklike official release, not al;pha or beta :)11:51
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NickPresta!gutsy | sven_oostenbrink11:52
ubotusven_oostenbrink: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information11:52
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sven_oostenbrinkNickPresta, thats the new ubuntu, but the new Kubuntu will also be released on that date (2 more days!!!)11:54
NickPrestasven_oostenbrink, yep11:55
sven_oostenbrinkNickPresta, the harddrive of my laptop  is about to fail.. in 2 days Dell will come to replace it... this would be an awesome timing if 7.10 would be available on that same day :)11:55
sven_oostenbrinkCould I simply SAFELY upgrade from kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 without reinstall?11:56
NickPrestasven_oostenbrink, unless there is some unforeseen problem, the 18th is the day :)11:56
NickPrestaand yes, upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 is fine11:56
sven_oostenbrinkalso when Im using external repos?11:57
sven_oostenbrinkcewl cewl cewl... Im like waiting for santa claus here.. :)11:57
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iownyougutsy is bloated i wish feisty could stay :[11:59
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reagleBRKLNis it possible to use kitchensync with Palm TX? I wish I could go back to using KDE PIM but KPilot was so unreliable I've been using jpilot for a year now12:00
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ardchoilleiownyou: No one says you *have* to upgrade :)12:06
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ardchoilleiownyou: I skipped Edgy because Dapper was so nice. I won't be installing Gutsy either, I'm waiting for the next LTS release (Hardy Herron)12:07
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CreationistCould someone please tell me how to access a different CD from the LiveCD?  I only have one CD drive.12:08
ardchoilleCreationist: Well, if you only have on cd drive, then there's no place to load a second cd, right?12:09
Creationistardchoille: In the same drive, I mean.12:10
CreationistAs in, remove the Kubunut Live CD and insert another one.12:10
ardchoilleCreationist: afaik, you can't do that.12:11
Creationisthmm... okay.  How about accessing my hard drive from the live CD?  I keep getting an errors saying it rejected uid 99912:12
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iownyouhow do i check if im running 64bit kubuntu or 32?12:22
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gnomefreakiownyou: uname -a12:23
ardchoilleiownyou: open a terminal and type: uname -a12:23
kharlosshi . i guess i have verry big problem witrh my ubuntu . i guess i`ve been hacked . take a look please  at my  /etc/init.d/apache2  :  http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=510712:23
Vermuxtalk later friendsssss12:24
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ardchoillekharloss: Are you referring to the "# Stupid hack to keep lintian happy. (Warrk! Stupidhack!)." part?12:25
iownyouwhbat does this meen12:25
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kharlossyes ardchoille12:25
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ardchoilleiownyou: it means you're running 64bit12:25
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ardchoillekharloss: That doesn't mean you've been hacked. That's just a comment about that section of the file12:26
kharloss:)  thanks12:26
iownyouardchoille: thank god i know now i was about to install it12:27
iownyouardchoille: its hard to install flash plugin on 64bit12:27
iownyou:] 12:27
ardchoilleiownyou: You're gonna find a lot of things are hard on 64bit12:27
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atlfalcons866will kde4 be in hardy heron12:34
AnarchNew Konsole breakage since most recent upgrade (Feisty): in a Vim buffer where option mouse='', middle-clicking to paste now moves the Vim cursor to the point of the click; used to be it just pasted the input (which is what I want).  How can this improvement be reverted?12:35
ardchoilleAnarch: on feisty?12:35
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Anarchardchoille: Yes, Feisty, Vim7.0.12:36
ardchoilleAnarch: vim 7.0 here, middle-click pastes and doesn't move the cursor.12:36
ardchoilleMaybe a setting needs to be tweaked?12:36
NickPrestaVIM - Vi IMproved 7.0 (2006 May 7, compiled Aug 28 2007 18:28:18) here and middle click pastes. Check your vimrc and such12:37
Anarchardchoille: Fascinating.  Your KDE is up to date?12:37
ardchoilleAnarch: yes12:37
Anarchardchoille: OK, thanks.  I'll fiddle around, see what I can learn.12:37
AnarchNickPresta: I assume you're saying (like ardchoille) that middle-click pastes *without* moving the cursor, right?12:39

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