[12:38] <_StefanS_> mel: sorry
[12:38] <_StefanS_> night all
[12:38] <cbox> keith!
[12:39] <melkor> the dpkg way says its not instelled, and I tried the sudo X -configure, then replace the file, but it says no screen
[12:39] <cbox> here's what i have. normal loading time: 3:40. if i hit "ALT F1" just as it starts, loading time: 0:40
[12:39] <saeed> hi all
[12:39] <melkor> er no screens found
[12:39] <mel> try my ip 71.63.95.105
[12:40] <saeed> can someone please tell me how to run compiz-fusion?
[12:40] <saeed> I know that it works out of the box in ubuntu
[12:40] <saeed> but how does one go about doing it in kubuntu
[12:40] <saeed> ?
[12:40] <saeed> I have downloaded all compiz packages I could find
[12:40] <mel> good
[12:41] <_StefanS_> mel: works
[12:41] <mel> can you help now
[12:41] <_StefanS_> mel: I cant click anything
[12:41] <_StefanS_> mel: Yes
[12:41] <mel> hold
[12:42] <cbox> it looks as though its "stalling" at the beginning of the boot where is says "no resume image found - starting normal boot" what does that mean??
[12:42] <_StefanS_> cbox: for hibernate/suspend in laptops I think
[12:42] <mel> can you see my desktop
[12:42] <cbox> im using a desktop, so how do i turn that feature off?
[12:43] <saeed> anybody can help"
[12:43] <saeed> ??
[12:43] <cbox> and can i assume thats the issue? and when I hit Alt F1, it overrides that and starts normally?
[12:43] <_StefanS_> mel: still only view
[12:43] <_StefanS_> mel: and the graphics dont update
[12:44] <_StefanS_> mel: let me try another vnc client
[12:44] <mel> Hmm ahve you done tis before
[12:44] <mel> sure
[12:44] <cbox> no one has any help fer moi?
[12:45] <keith> cbox, I'm thinking, but nothing's coming to mind yet.  I've seen that "no resume image" msg, but never had a problem there so haven't looked into it.
[12:46] <saeed> anyone can help with compiz?
[12:46] <saeed> anyone?
[12:46] <Yammeh> Hey guys, can you recommend a program for burning images?
[12:46] <cbox> hmm. is there a way I can have the boot script automatically emulate ALTF1 for me? i dont need a blank screen, I'd prefer to see whats going on behind the scenes anyways!
[12:46] <_StefanS_> cbox: sudo apt-get remove usplash ;)
[12:46] <mel> i see you moving the mouse around
[12:47] <_StefanS_> cbox: or remove the splash
[12:47] <_StefanS_> cbox: from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:47] <cbox> does it matter which one i do
[12:47] <cbox> ?
[12:47] <mel> do you want me to remove the animation
[12:47] <saeed> anybody knows how to make compiz work?
[12:47] <saeed> anybody?
[12:47] <_StefanS_> cbox: well removing usplash is probably easisst
[12:47] <saeed> I am out of ideas
[12:48] <saeed> I tried several sites, used google
[12:48] <_StefanS_> saeed: what gfx card?
[12:48] <saeed> and nothing is working so far
[12:48] <saeed> Intel 915
[12:48] <_StefanS_> hey Jucato
[12:48] <saeed> integrated
[12:48] <saeed> someone said I should change video effects to "aiglx"
[12:48] <saeed> but I couldn't find such entry in my xorg.conf
[12:48] <cbox> ok i just used "sudo apt-get remove usplash"
[12:49] <_StefanS_> cbox: yup
[12:49] <mel> Stefan I am going to email you with a password to login to my system ok..
[12:49] <Jucato> hi _StefanS_
[12:49] <_StefanS_> mel: i cant select anything
[12:49] <_StefanS_> mel: ok, have you install ssh ?
[12:49] <_StefanS_> installed
[12:49] <mel> Can you type anything in
[12:49] <_StefanS_> dont think so
[12:49] <cbox> i'll try loggin in again and see whats happening! thanks stefans
[12:49] <mel> no how do I install SSH
[12:49] <_StefanS_> mel: sudo apt-get install ssh
[12:50] <mel> Ok hold
[12:50] <Jucato> _StefanS_: perhaps openssh-server ?
[12:50] <_StefanS_> Jucato: ssh does the same
[12:50] <cbox> btw, stefans, you aren't canadian are you?
[12:50] <Jucato> ah
[12:50] <saeed> HELLO
[12:50] <_StefanS_> cbox: nawp.. danish bacon my friend
[12:50] <saeed> anyone here KNOWS ANYTHING about compiz-fusion?
[12:50] <mel> Ok it is installed
[12:51] <MacZtttlkwork> I know something, saeed.
[12:51] <Jucato> _StefanS_: ah it's a metapackage
[12:51] <cbox> ok, i know another stefan s. thought i would ask!
[12:51] <saeed> could u PLEASE help
[12:51] <Jucato> !compiz | saeed
[12:51] <ubotu> saeed: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:51] <_StefanS_> Jucato: maybe you should explain saeed in regards to helping
[12:51] <Jucato> !caps | saeed
[12:51] <ubotu> saeed: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:51] <saeed> these SITES do NOT help
[12:51] <Jucato> !patience | saeed
[12:51] <ubotu> saeed: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:51] <saeed> I tried ALL of them
[12:51] <MacZtttlkwork> What's your problem?
[12:51] <_StefanS_> cbox: thats ok
[12:51] <Yammeh> an you recommend a program for burning images?
[12:51] <saeed> I can't get compiz-fusion to work on my laptop
[12:51] <_StefanS_> k3b?
[12:51] <MacZtttlkwork> For me compiz fusion is not working well with Kubuntu. I keep using Beryl and it has no problems.
[12:52] <Jucato> Yammeh: ISO images? k3b
[12:52] <Yammeh> Ta
[12:52] <mel> StefnS if you need to sleep man.. No probs.. I will be here tomorrow at 6pm EST..
[12:52] <MacZtttlkwork> What graphics card are you using?
[12:52] <saeed> does Beryl have the same effects?
[12:52] <saeed> Intel 915, integrated
[12:52] <saeed> a piece of junk
[12:52] <MacZtttlkwork> Not the same but very similar
[12:52] <_StefanS_> saeed: beryl was just the previous version
[12:52] <saeed> but that's all I have
[12:52] <_StefanS_> mel: check the message
[12:52] <mel> brb potty
[12:52] <MacZtttlkwork> the only thing you'll miss.... is some sort of flame... wich is useless
[12:53] <Jucato> _StefanS_: if you don't need to sleep yet, I do... I've been up all night. so I leave the channel to you :P
[12:53] <saeed> I am not going to miss that one
[12:53] <Jucato> (stdin and Tm_T are there anyway)
[12:53] <saeed> does beryl have the switcher?
[12:53] <MacZtttlkwork> Jucato, do they pay you for support? lol
[12:53] <Jucato> MacZtttlkwork: I wish!
[12:53] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed: yes it has.
[12:53] <saeed> the one that looks like MACs or VISTA?
[12:53] <saeed> cool
[12:53] <saeed> how do I install Beryl?
[12:53] <_StefanS_> Jucato: well I need to sleep since my kid needs food around 4-5 oclock
[12:54] <MacZtttlkwork> I think it's quite simple...
[12:54] <saeed> do I need to remove compiz stuff?
[12:54] <Jucato> _StefanS_: good night then.
[12:54] <MacZtttlkwork> if you have the 3d drivers already installed, that's it
[12:54] <saeed> how do I install the 3d drivers?
[12:54] <MacZtttlkwork> No, you can install it and keep the compiz stuff.
[12:54] <saeed> apt-get?
[12:54] <MacZtttlkwork> let's see...
[12:54] <saeed> or adpet?
[12:54] <cbox> stefans, keith, you guys are good!!
[12:54] <saeed> THANKS a million by the way
[12:54] <saeed> I appreciate your help
[12:54] <MacZtttlkwork> the intel 915 has open source drivers wich come with 3d acceleration, doesn't it?
[12:55] <_StefanS_> mel: I'm on your system now
[12:55] <saeed> I think so
[12:55] <MacZtttlkwork> Open adept
[12:55] <jorge_> jejjee
[12:55] <saeed> OK
[12:55] <saeed> I am there
[12:55] <MacZtttlkwork> wait a sec. I'm looking for the package...
[12:55] <keith> Thanks, cbox. So it boots up faster now?
[12:56] <cbox> yeah its super quick! i didnt need a splash screen anyways!
[12:56] <saeed> OK
[12:56] <saeed> Thanks a LOT man
[12:56] <cbox> so do i ask about my other issue, or am i pushing my luck with one solved problem per day??:)
[12:57] <keith> Sweet cbox!  I have no clue why the splash screen was slowing you down, but sometimes we just have to shrug and go to the next thing <LOL>
[12:57] <saeed> beryl search yields nothing
[12:57] <keith> I have time and am willing to try, cbox.
[12:57] <saeed> I think it has to be something else
[12:57] <cbox> ok. it might be easier
[12:57] <_StefanS_> mel: sound seems okay, its not muted and the module is lodad
[12:57] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed
[12:57] <_StefanS_> loaded
[12:57] <twixter> hi, is ScorpKing still here?
[12:58] <MacZtttlkwork> close adept and open "add programs" in the K menu
[12:58] <saeed> MacZtttlkwork: yes?
[12:58] <saeed> OK
[12:58] <saeed> I am there
[12:58] <MacZtttlkwork> the write "beryl" in the search box
[12:58] <MacZtttlkwork> and select the three options that appear
[12:58] <cbox> i have 2x 250GB external HDDs that I have been using on my XP machine. they store pics and movies, and my mp3s and things. and if i am making this Ubuntu box my media centre i need them to be read on it too. problem is when i USB plug them in, ubuntu doesnt recognize them
[12:58] <cbox> it does however recognize my little usb key drive without problem
[12:58] <saeed> MacZtttlkwork: I got nothing
[12:58] <saeed> when I searched both
[12:59] <saeed> adept
[12:59] <MacZtttlkwork> hum.. that must be about the package sources
[12:59] <saeed> which ones should add?
[12:59] <Daisuke-Ido> beryl is deprecated, no longer developed, why get someone using something that is going to remain stagnant rather than compiz-fusion, which is under active development
[12:59] <saeed> Daisuke-Ido: how would u install compiz-fusion?
[01:00] <MacZtttlkwork> ah, wait! Are you using Kubuntu 7.04?
[01:00] <mel> yes I figuered that much
[01:00] <Daisuke-Ido> feisty?
[01:00] <saeed> 10.8
[01:00] <Daisuke-Ido> uh
[01:00] <saeed> release candidate
[01:00] <saeed> gutsy
[01:00] <mel> i been researched it but cou;d not find a fix
[01:00] <Daisuke-Ido> 7.10 rc
[01:00] <Daisuke-Ido> okay
[01:00] <saeed> yep
[01:00] <twixter> hi, I was following instructions ScorpKing gave me to upgrade my kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 and i encountered a problem
[01:00] <saeed> final release is in 3 days
[01:01] <twixter> i would be glad to describe everything i did, if this is the right channel for it
[01:01] <Daisuke-Ido> i have yet to use kde in gutsy, so i have no clue if they've added an applet to turn that on...
[01:01] <MacZtttlkwork> Daisuke-Ido: I was telling him about beryl because he told me that Compiz Fusion wasn't working. And as I am in the same situation, but Beryl does work ...
[01:01] <saeed> No, there's no applet to turn it on
[01:01] <saeed> unless they do it in the final release
[01:01] <Daisuke-Ido> then that's a situation where beryl might be a better idea for now
[01:01] <mel> how do I install beryl I have it...
[01:01] <keith> Had to leave the la-z-boy for a minute, cbox. Reading your messages now...
[01:01] <Daisuke-Ido> carry on
[01:02] <saeed> I can't even get beryl
[01:02] <saeed> I searched for it
[01:02] <saeed> but no luck so far
[01:02] <MacZtttlkwork> but there's a problem. As he's using a newly developed version......it hasn't got the same packages as Feisty
[01:02] <Daisuke-Ido> it may have been removed from gutsy
[01:02] <Daisuke-Ido> in which case, compiz fusion is about the only option
[01:02] <MacZtttlkwork> I guess that as beryl is older they've left it and they care about Compiz Fusion
[01:02] <Daisuke-Ido> MacZtttlkwork: wrong
[01:02] <Daisuke-Ido> beryl forked from compiz
[01:03] <cbox> la-z-boy. sounds like a nice workstation!
[01:03] <Daisuke-Ido> and later on, they re-merged
[01:03] <MacZtttlkwork> yeah... I meant the beryl package, the one I am using now.
[01:03] <saeed> there's NOTHING about beryl
[01:03] <Daisuke-Ido> no, there isn't
[01:03] <saeed> plenty of compiz stuff, but nothing about beryl
[01:03] <MacZtttlkwork> We know, saeed.
[01:03] <saeed> and I enabled ALL repos
[01:03] <Daisuke-Ido> compiz fusion is the only option in gutsy
[01:03] <MacZtttlkwork> If you can wait 4 days for the final release...
[01:03] <mel> StefanS what do you think is wrong with my system?
[01:04] <saeed> you think it will be in the final release?
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> then you could have that nice dialog box wich auto-installs compiz fusion hehe
[01:04] <Daisuke-Ido> beryl will not, NO
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> but Compiz Fusion will be
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> If am not wrong!
[01:04] <Daisuke-Ido> beryl is gone, done, kaput
[01:04] <keith> cbox, first let's see if Linux recognizes the drive as anything at all. Plug it in, and after a few secs check the last lines of /var/log/syslog for messages about /dev/something or USB.
[01:04] <Daisuke-Ido> compiz fusion is already there
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> I think that's clear..
[01:04] <Daisuke-Ido> and is installed by default
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> but saeed hasn't seen the dialog box.
[01:04] <Daisuke-Ido> there isn't one for kde
[01:04] <MacZtttlkwork> then the problem is about wizards...:-D
[01:05] <MacZtttlkwork> wow
[01:05] <keith> It's easy to check with "tail -25 /var/log/syslog"
[01:05] <keith> That'll show the last 25 lines of the file.
[01:05] <MacZtttlkwork> Is GNOME catching up us? :-(
[01:05] <cbox> keith, check that just using gedit??
[01:05] <saeed> I have installed the beta version of ubuntu
[01:05] <Daisuke-Ido> MacZtttlkwork: gnome is the main DE for ubuntu
[01:05] <Minataku> Heya, MacZtttlkwork
[01:05] <Daisuke-Ido> kde gets things like that later if at all
[01:05] <saeed> there's an option there to switch 3d effects on
[01:05] <keith> cbox, gedit will work too.
[01:05] <Daisuke-Ido> it's been that way for a long time
[01:05] <saeed> but nothing similar has been added to kubuntu
[01:06] <Minataku> Yeah, but GNOME usually screws things up. A lot.
[01:06] <MacZtttlkwork> Hi Minataku
[01:06] <Minataku> I mean, look at GNOME itself.
[01:06] <Daisuke-Ido> as i just said, saeed...
[01:06] <saeed> LOL
[01:06] <Daisuke-Ido> ah crap
[01:06] <Minataku> COMPLETELY screwed up.
[01:06] <Minataku> lol
[01:06] <Daisuke-Ido> enough gnome bashing
[01:06] <MacZtttlkwork> Ok, let's not start a flame war about GNOME.... this is not the place :P
[01:06] <Minataku> Taser the gnome for low rates!
[01:06] <saeed> I am OK with gnome, as long as they add something similar to karamba, I will switch
[01:07] <saeed> in the meantime
[01:07] <saeed> I like my KDE
[01:07] <Daisuke-Ido> it's been there
[01:07] <MacZtttlkwork> The problem was about compiz fusion?
[01:07] <saeed> nope, there's NOTHING vaguely similar to karamba
[01:07] <saeed> i know
[01:07] <MacZtttlkwork> Any clue about how to install it in the new version? I don't have that version so....
[01:07] <Daisuke-Ido> really?
[01:07] <saeed> I am still hoping I ll get it to work
[01:07] <cbox> i do see some USB messages
[01:07] <mel> Does anyone know how to fix my sound remotley..
[01:08] <MacZtttlkwork> any developer or something here that knows if the final release of Kubuntu (with K) will come with any autinstaller for 3d effects?
[01:08] <MacZtttlkwork> because if not this distro is... behind others such as Opensuse or Mandriva :O
[01:08] <Daisuke-Ido> as features have been frozen for a month, no, no it won't.
[01:09] <keith> cbox, any messages that look like a drive, like /dev/sda1, something like that?
[01:09] <Daisuke-Ido> kde is not the main focus of the distro
[01:09] <Minataku> Say, MacZtttlkwork, how was NetBSD?
[01:09] <cbox> New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b4_6830_DEF106207355_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun0_scsi_generic').
[01:09] <twixter> hello, is this the right channel for discussing problems upgrading kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04?
[01:09] <saeed> I guess I ll have to switch to openSUSE or something
[01:09] <saeed> I LOVE the 3d effects
[01:09] <saeed> too much
[01:09] <cbox> hald: mounted /dev/sdb1 on behalf of uid 1000
[01:10] <cbox> so its mounting, but im not seeing it anywhere??
[01:10] <MacZtttlkwork> I haven't been with that computer still (it's in the residence where I live ...when I am not at home :D)
[01:10] <keith> cbox, perfect!  That's just what we needed.
[01:10] <Minataku> lol
[01:10] <saeed> that's how I can convince an average person that linux is WAY better than vista
[01:10] <MacZtttlkwork> twixter this is the right channel
[01:10] <cbox> wait a minute! i just checked again, and it was there!
[01:10] <Minataku> Feh... ol' "Joe D. Average"
[01:10] <cbox> what the hell? why all of a sudden??
[01:10] <Minataku> The D stands for DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr
[01:10] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed... if KDE is not the main focus of the distro... guess we both should be changing!
[01:10] <MacZtttlkwork> lol
[01:11] <MacZtttlkwork> Well.... i'll stick with it for the meantime
[01:11] <keith> cbox, same reason your car engine suddenly starts running smoothly when you take it to the mechanic :)
[01:11] <Daisuke-Ido> saeed: gdesklets
[01:11] <Daisuke-Ido> desktop widgets for gnome.
[01:11] <twixter> MacZ: I have already discussed this with ScorpKing who appears to have left. Update manager tells me "file:/usr/local/mydebs/./Packages.gz: File not found'
[01:11] <mel> My sound is not working with my Toshiba P105 S9312 Laptop. Does anyone know of any fix for this?
[01:11] <cbox> keith, you are the man!
[01:11] <twixter> macZ: ScorpKing gave me a remedy but I encountered a problem
[01:12] <twixter> macZ: I would like to describe to you everything I did
[01:12] <MacZtttlkwork> twixter: I'm not an expert... let's see if anyone here has any idea
[01:12] <MacZtttlkwork> (I always do fresh installs.., sorry)
[01:12] <keith> cbox, sometimes it'll see a drive okay, but it doesn't get auto-mounted. I don't know why. That's probably what happend before. Thanks for the compliment. I enjoy helping out :)
[01:13] <twixter> macZ i can wait until tomorrow night, ScorpKing said he would be back then.
[01:13] <MacZtttlkwork> ok! sorry I couldn't help you :(
[01:13] <saeed> gdesklets are a JOKE
[01:13] <cbox> you're definately good people. ok, im going to watch hockey. Go Leafs Go!
[01:13] <twixter> ok thanks anyway
[01:13] <saeed> have you ever tried them?
[01:13] <Daisuke-Ido> so don't use them
[01:13] <saeed> Daisuke-Ido: have u ever tried gdesklets?
[01:13] <MacZtttlkwork> gdesklets... let me search for that :D
[01:14] <MacZtttlkwork> there's something for gnome...
[01:14] <saeed> nothing compared to superkaramb stuffa
[01:14] <Daisuke-Ido> you asked for an alternative, i gave you one, i for one don't care if you like them or not, they're there.
[01:14] <saeed> LOL
[01:14] <saeed> I understand
[01:14] <MacZtttlkwork> it's called kiba-dock
[01:14] <Daisuke-Ido> don't claim there's no alternative :)
[01:14] <MacZtttlkwork> it's like the dock of mac if you like that stuff
[01:14] <saeed> kiba-dock is AMAZING
[01:14] <saeed> I tried it
[01:14] <saeed> it's definitely cool
[01:14] <Daisuke-Ido> MacZtttlkwork: avant-window-navigator > kiba
[01:14] <saeed> awm
[01:15] <Daisuke-Ido> (well, if you value function over form)
[01:15] <MacZtttlkwork> I have played with it but nothing serious... no wedding or else hehe
[01:15] <MacZtttlkwork> wow I think the next version of Amarok for KDE 4 will have 3d effects (CD covers presentation)
[01:16] <Daisuke-Ido> and it's also being ported to windows
[01:16] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed: so you tried the "how to"'s and.... they didn't worked for you?
[01:16] <saeed> nothing worked for real
[01:16] <MacZtttlkwork> Daisuke-Ido: many parts of KDE are being ported, arent' they?
[01:17] <saeed> I have dolphin in place of konqueror
[01:17] <MacZtttlkwork> your graphics card was listed as supported?
[01:17] <saeed> but I don't see much of a difference
[01:17] <Daisuke-Ido> MacZtttlkwork: it's not that many parts are being ported, it's that they can be now, since qt is gpl'd on all platforms rather than just linux
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> I think KDE4 itself will run on Windows
[01:17] <saeed> yes
[01:17] <saeed> cool
[01:17] <MacZtttlkwork> (excuse me if I make many grammar mistakes... I'm not a native English speaker :-o)
[01:17] <Daisuke-Ido> Dragnslcr: exactly
[01:17] <saeed> having KDE on windows will be so much fun
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> Dunno exactly how, but it'll be interesting to see
[01:17] <atlfalcons866> how do i get beagle to work
[01:18] <Daisuke-Ido> having kde on windows will break down the barrier to entry for linux
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> Not sure if I could convince the guys at work to let me try it on my computer
[01:18] <saeed> you don't need beagle
[01:18] <atlfalcons866> why
[01:18] <blendtux> i have got a strange problem, i rebooted and now my resolution is wrong, its says its doing 1024x768 but it seems that my desktop is now bigger then my fysical screen
[01:18] <MacZtttlkwork> It will be like that program "Talisman" well.. I'm talking about shareware from the 90's hehe
[01:18] <saeed> use strigi
[01:18] <saeed> it should be in the gutsy repos
[01:18] <atlfalcons866> strgi dosent index .ogg
[01:18] <saeed> it does the same thing
[01:18] <saeed> and it's open source
[01:18] <Daisuke-Ido> "well, i have amarok, firefox, thunderbird, and dolphin here...  it's also over there on that linux machine."
[01:18] <blendtux> how can i reconfigure my x so that i have the right resolution back
[01:18] <Daisuke-Ido> no barrier, they can pick up and go
[01:19] <atlfalcons866> can stirgi index .ogg
[01:19] <MacZtttlkwork> Yes,... In enterprise environments they can use both Linux and Windows but both of them using KDE so the employees won't feel much difference and so. It'd be cool.
[01:20] <Daisuke-Ido> possibly, it will start to break the stranglehold microsoft has on businesses
[01:20] <MacZtttlkwork> blendtux: did you modified anything in the X?
[01:20] <blendtux> nope
[01:21] <saeed> I think more stuff cross-compiled so that it runs on *nix and M$ will help more people switch to open source stuff
[01:21] <saeed> especially companies
[01:21] <saeed> when they see the quality of open source software
[01:21] <Yammeh> Anyone know a decent ftp client?
[01:21] <atlfalcons866> is kde4 in gutsy
[01:21] <saeed> not all of it
[01:21] <saeed> just some apps
[01:21] <saeed> dolphin, strigi, and some games
[01:21] <MacZtttlkwork> Yes I think so... but it could be the same in the other way! LOL    Going back to windows because they have their lovely KDE..
[01:22] <hitmanWilly> Yammeh: uhhh, konqueror?
[01:22] <CPrompt^> Yammeh : Filezila
[01:22] <saeed> solitaire (patience), mahjong and a couple of other ones
[01:22] <Yammeh> Doesnt allow me to save ftps, does it?
[01:22] <MacZtttlkwork> Konqueror rules
[01:22] <saeed> konqueror is being phased out
[01:22] <saeed> and dolphin is replacing it
[01:22] <MacZtttlkwork> Bad things always rise....
[01:22] <saeed> LOL
[01:22] <saeed> not always
[01:22] <hitmanWilly> dolphin does web?
[01:22] <MacZtttlkwork> I have tried it
[01:23] <saeed> yep
[01:23] <MacZtttlkwork> and it...sucks!
[01:23] <saeed> it works fine
[01:23] <MacZtttlkwork> Konqueror works fine too
[01:23] <saeed> plasmoids are a big thing in kde4
[01:23] <MacZtttlkwork> but it's even better, so I don't see the point for replacing it
[01:23] <saeed> they will replace karamba widgets
[01:23] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed. what's the difference between karamba and superkaramba?
[01:24] <saeed> nothing
[01:24] <saeed> it's the same thing
[01:24] <saeed> one is newer (super)
[01:24] <blendtux> so MacZtttlkwork what should i do
[01:24] <hitmanWilly> does it have the capability to do moz plugins as well, or is it like konq where you need a seperate plugin app?
[01:24] <MacZtttlkwork> blendtux
[01:24] <saeed> I have no idea as to dophin capabilities
[01:24] <MacZtttlkwork> open the k menu and go to
[01:24] <saeed> but it looks and feels like konqueror
[01:24] <MacZtttlkwork> system settings
[01:24] <MacZtttlkwork> then to screen
[01:25] <MacZtttlkwork> and try to change the resolution to any other and see what happens
[01:25] <hitmanWilly> that's about the only issue i have with konq, esp on 64 bit systems
[01:25] <saeed> the only difference is a panel to the right, giving you more info about what you re opening
[01:25] <blendtux> it stays the same MacZtttlkwork
[01:25] <saeed> and another panel to the left
[01:25] <blendtux> brb MacZtttlkwork
[01:25] <saeed> with icons
[01:26] <saeed> u can single click to switch stuff
[01:26] <saeed> just like Mac OS X
[01:26] <saeed> but simpler
[01:26] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed: I have dolphin installed and it is not internet capable
[01:26] <saeed> it is
[01:26] <MacZtttlkwork> blendtux
[01:26] <MacZtttlkwork> I am looking for a way to reconfigure xorg
[01:26] <saeed> I use it everytime I click on a link here
[01:26] <Daisuke-Ido> simpler than a mac doesn't exist.
[01:26] <saeed> for example on pastebin links
[01:26] <CPrompt^> MacZtttlkwork : dolphin is a file manager only from what I know.  it isn't to replace Konq
[01:26] <saeed> it kicks automatically on my system
[01:27] <noktirnal> new to kubuntu, trying to get wireless lan to work, can anyone help?
[01:27] <Daisuke-Ido> !dolphin
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <saeed> anyway
[01:27] <Daisuke-Ido> meh
[01:27] <Daisuke-Ido> but yeah, it's just a file manager
[01:27] <saeed> I thinkI ll try openSUSE to get the compiz working
[01:27] <saeed> thanks all
[01:27] <saeed> and have a good night
[01:27] <Daisuke-Ido> well if you'd just run compiz --replace
[01:27] <Daisuke-Ido> there might be a shot
[01:27] <MacZtttlkwork> If windows has explorer with the web browsing and file manager integrated...why should we separate the file manager from the navigator?
[01:27] <saeed> I tried
[01:27] <saeed> but very few effects work
[01:28] <Daisuke-Ido> so install the settings manager
[01:28] <MacZtttlkwork> saeed: bye
[01:28] <saeed> take care guys
[01:28] <ChaosMachine> When gutsy comes out, will there be a way I can just upgrade while keeping all of my personal files? or will I have to do a fresh install?
[01:28] <MacZtttlkwork> wow
[01:28] <Daisuke-Ido> ChaosMachine: upgrade works well
[01:28] <MacZtttlkwork> but does it work?
[01:28] <Daisuke-Ido> yes
[01:28] <CPrompt^> more on Dolphine : http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/
[01:28] <noktirnal> compiz is buggy check out sambayon
[01:28] <MacZtttlkwork> perhaps you didn't installed the plugins or something lol
[01:28] <jackuess> hi you guys
[01:28] <saeed> trust me
[01:28] <jackuess> i have somewhat of a sittuation
[01:28] <ChaosMachine> Daisuke-Ido, ah :) in a nutshell how do I do that? (a website, or command?)
[01:28] <saeed> I install every DARN package I could get my hands on
[01:28] <jackuess> im trying to upgrade to gutsy
[01:28] <Daisuke-Ido> saeed: trust me: if it messed up, you did it.
[01:28] <MacZtttlkwork> Ok, anyway remember that you are using a RC... not a final version.
[01:29] <Daisuke-Ido> compiz --replace ccp
[01:29] <saeed> LOL
[01:29] <saeed> indeed
[01:29] <keith> noktimal, check out the last post in this thread. It's the advice I've been handing out for wireless. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=576875
[01:29] <jackuess> ut the upgrade-manager hung up on me
[01:29] <Daisuke-Ido> ChaosMachine: adept-manager should give you the option to upgrade
[01:29] <noktirnal> thanx will check it out
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> ChaosMachine- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[01:29] <Daisuke-Ido> and just for the record!
[01:30] <Daisuke-Ido> sabayon linux is based on gentoo, and (get this) uses compiz!
[01:30] <jackuess> and now i can't start it again
[01:30] <Daisuke-Ido> your advice therefore made no sense.
[01:30] <MacZtttlkwork> I think that when blendtux had come back........ this is the command he should type to reconfigure the Xorg sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[01:30] <MacZtttlkwork> is the command right?
[01:30] <ChaosMachine> Dragnslcr, Daisuke-Ido okay thank you both.
[01:31] <Daisuke-Ido> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:31] <Daisuke-Ido> but very very close
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[01:31] <MacZtttlkwork> ok
[01:32] <blendtux> what does the -phigh flag does MacZtttlkwork
[01:32] <Daisuke-Ido> priority: high
[01:32] <DaSkreech> !gutsy | jackuess
[01:32] <ubotu> jackuess: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:32] <Daisuke-Ido> driver and resolution
[01:32] <jackuess> oki thx
[01:32] <MacZtttlkwork> it will all be automatic I think ... or I hope
[01:32] <MacZtttlkwork> lol
[01:33] <blendtux> does it need to read an old xorg.conf or does it create a new one
[01:33] <Daisuke-Ido> it will just use the one you have
[01:33] <Daisuke-Ido> it will ask what driver, what resolutions you want available, and i think what extensions
[01:33] <MacZtttlkwork> and hopefully you will get  your screen back to the normal situation
[01:34] <blendtux> oke
[01:34] <MacZtttlkwork> remember to have your screen specs by the way!
[01:34] <searayman> can i have help gettign to try kde 4 beta on kubuntu?
[01:34] <MacZtttlkwork> I think it asked you for some information about it
[01:35] <MacZtttlkwork> searayman: I believe there's a package made for that purpose
[01:35] <MacZtttlkwork> search for kde4 in adept
[01:35] <searayman> MacZtttlkwork: i am having trouble tryiing to follow instructiosn found here, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[01:36] <Dragnslcr> searayman- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[01:36] <blendtux> brb
[01:36] <kobol> I've been trying to create a desktop shortcut to my Windows harddrive, but every time I do I get an error whenever I open it.
[01:37] <searayman> Dragnslcr: i am having trouble followign that, i have done the 3rd bullet then the 4th says run some programs... what does that mean? how do i run plasma?
[01:37] <kobol> The error says...mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /media/hda1 mount failed.
[01:37] <kobol> Any ideas?
[01:38] <awag> hi i just installed 7.10 and the "search for files" button seems to be missing from the main menu
[01:38] <MacZtttlkwork> i have never tried kde4 .... isn't there a k menu or something?
[01:38] <MacZtttlkwork> try to use the combination for the "execute command" dialog box
[01:38] <Daisuke-Ido> kobol: then umount it and remount it
[01:39] <kobol> Daisuke-Ido: so umount /dev/hda1 and then mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1?
[01:39] <MacZtttlkwork> searayman: try to open konsole
[01:39] <Daisuke-Ido> i assume /dev/hda1 is your windows drive?
[01:40] <Daisuke-Ido> nevermind
[01:40] <Daisuke-Ido> yeah, i would give that a shot, see what happens
[01:40] <searayman> MacZtttlkwork: ok its open now what?
[01:40] <kobol> Daisuke-Ido: Yes, it is, and going for it now :)
[01:40] <MacZtttlkwork> now type... the name of some kde4 programm
[01:40] <MacZtttlkwork> like a KDE game if you installed those
[01:41] <noktirnal> that doesn't apply
[01:41] <noktirnal> broadcom pci wlan
[01:41] <MacZtttlkwork> anyway I think that the version you're using is very "alpha" if it's the one that comes with Feisty.
[01:41] <noktirnal> i think i need to use ndiswrapper
[01:41] <searayman> MacZtttlkwork: i am using gutsy
[01:42] <noktirnal> that's how it worked w/ opensuse, any idea on how it might work w/ kubuntu?
[01:42] <MacZtttlkwork> ah! try amarok and see if it's compilled for kde4
[01:42] <DaSkreech> searayman: A better newer beta is out this week
[01:42] <searayman> DaSkreech: but how do i get this one working?
[01:43] <MacZtttlkwork> niktirnal: if you needed ndiswrapper I guess you'll need it again for kubuntu
[01:43] <kobol> Daisuke-Ido: Same thing :(
[01:43] <kobol> Daisuke-Ido: Should I just mount it to some place like /mnt/hda1?
[01:43] <MacZtttlkwork> nokrtirnal *
[01:44] <searayman> anyone know how to get kde 4 beta workign on kubuntu?
[01:45] <Daisuke-Ido> kobol: no idea
[01:46] <MacZtttlkwork> well people enough talking for today. See you!
[01:49] <noktirnal> is it a package DL?
[01:51] <Airforce55555> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFasbmaUfQw
[01:52] <kobol> Daisuke-Ido: I know there's a way to give myself access to my drive via Konqueror, something like sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ugroup=0022 or something? Do you know what I'm talking about?
[01:53] <Daisuke-Ido> not entirely sure, no
[01:53] <heinkel_111> Hi, i am using Feisty and I have a problem with X locking up very often, especially when running 64 bit kubuntu. Is as module called "wfb" of any importance? In my system log it comes out with an error, module does not exist
[01:54] <DaSkreech> kobol: umask
[01:54] <kobol> DaSkreech: Oh thanks :)
[01:54] <heinkel_111> eh... boot log does not exist, is that kinda sign something may be wrong?
[01:56] <kobol> DaSkreech: Just gave me a big list of commands, as if what I put in doesn't work? I just tried sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 umask=0022 was that not the right syntax?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> kobol: -o umask =0022
[01:57] <kobol> DaSkreech: Will it be there when I login, reboot etc now?
[01:59] <DaSkreech> no
[01:59] <DaSkreech> !fstab | kobol
[01:59] <ubotu> kobol: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:00] <ElecNinja> !partitions | kobol
[02:00] <ubotu> kobol: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:00] <ElecNinja> !swap | kobol
[02:00] <ubotu> kobol: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[02:07] <LjL> nazi-ubuntu: i wouldn't mind if you changed that nickname, please
[02:07] <Tm_T> I second that
[02:07] <nazi-ubuntu> ok,era uno scherzo :)
[02:08] <LjL> azzimiei: we only understand english here :)
[02:08] <ElecNinja> Spanish. Interesting.
[02:08] <azzimiei> escuse  my
[02:10] <freeport> I'm using FF and can't find the commercial repository.  I'm trying to install realpayer and can't find it with adept.
[02:10] <DaSkreech> !commercial
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <DaSkreech> Grr
[02:11] <NickPresta> !realplayer
[02:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:11] <DaSkreech> !opera
[02:11] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[02:11] <freeport> I read in the ubunto documentation that the real was in the comercial
[02:11] <ElecNinja> Wait, isn't it supposed to be as in beer?
[02:11] <DaSkreech> freeport: It is but the above documentation is just as good
[02:12] <freeport> thanks guys
[02:14] <el-lectron> hi
[02:14] <el-lectron> help
[02:14] <el-lectron> how can I erase the WEP3 password?
[02:14] <DaSkreech> !help
[02:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:14] <el-lectron> I entered the wrong one
[02:14] <DaSkreech> el-lectron: it should reask you then
[02:15] <el-lectron> DaSkreech: it isnt doing it
[02:16] <ElecNinja> el-lectron: Try lookiing in the Network Manager.
[02:17] <DaSkreech> ElecNinja: Right Click Kneworkmanager -> options -> Configure -> Wireless Networks -> trusted networks -> remove
[02:17] <el-lectron> DaSkreech: ha ok
[02:17] <ElecNinja> <.<
[02:18] <el-lectron> is not doing in it :(
[02:18] <el-lectron> Kubuntu is a failure
[02:19] <ElecNinja> For you maybe? But did you try and select your network again to reconnect and see what happens?
[02:19] <DaSkreech> !wifi | el-lectron
[02:19] <ubotu> el-lectron: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:21] <letalis> kubuntu is a failure?
[02:21] <letalis> how so?
[02:21] <weswh-> i am trying to find the nvidia driver setup GUI (where you size and position the screens), I remember it being something I had to launch from terminal
[02:21] <weswh-> now that I think about it - does anyone know? something like sudo nvidia-config
[02:22] <DaSkreech> letalis: don't feed trolls :)
[02:22] <el-lectron> letalis: because is not working?
[02:23] <letalis> its workign for me.
[02:23] <el-lectron> DaSkreech: the networks are removed
[02:23] <letalis> mines special. i modified it myself
[02:23] <letalis> lol
[02:23] <el-lectron> letalis: may you using crappy WEP security
[02:24] <ElecNinja> !nvidia | weswh
[02:24] <ubotu> weswh: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:25] <Tm_T> nope
[02:25] <julian> How to switch back & forth?
[02:25] <ElecNinja> In the log in screen
[02:25] <letalis> actualy its wpa
[02:25] <Tm_T> julian: chooce when login
[02:25] <Tm_T> se
[02:25] <julian> super. thanks!
[02:25] <Tm_T> bah
[02:25] <ElecNinja> When you have the session type, you can choose there.
[02:25] <ElecNinja> Where*
[02:26] <letalis> but the comps on this networked are also locked by mac address. even if they did break in, if they arent in the list they get the boot.
[02:26] <letalis> id say its pretty secure.
[02:29] <el-lectron> why did you give this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs where I gotta look all over open a thousad tabs when this is Kubuntu channel? I could've save a lot of time if I was given this link directly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu
[02:31] <el-lectron> OMG my specific card has to be WPA2 compatible now??!! :-(
[02:32] <kobol> DaSkreech: Tried to install subversion but got "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" Any ideas?
[02:32] <DaSkreech> kobol: You have adept open ?
[02:33] <ekrengel> yeah you must have it open somewhere
[02:33] <letalis> el-lectron: do you knwo what the chipset for your card is?
[02:36] <el-lectron> where on earth is KWallet? I think is stored in there
[02:37] <Angelus> guys , when can  i report a bug on gutsy?
[02:37] <ekrengel> where is the kdm theme folder located?
[02:37] <el-lectron> letalis: zydas zd1211
[02:38] <ElecNinja> Angelus: Most likely on the Gutsy Help area. Or nowhere.
[02:39] <kobol> DaSkreech, That was the problem hehe, thanks.
[02:40] <kobol> DaSkreech, mind if I bug you once more for something?
[02:41] <el-lectron> it doesn't look the shitty driver has WEP2
[02:41] <el-lectron> :(
[02:41] <el-lectron> anyways shouldn't Kubuntu TELL YOU WEP3 isn't supported instead of wasting my time??
[02:42] <el-lectron> oh ok the dialogue appeared again
[02:44] <Daisuke-Ido> !language | el-lectron
[02:44] <ubotu> el-lectron: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:44] <Daisuke-Ido> !coc | el-lectron
[02:44] <ubotu> el-lectron: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:44] <el-lectron> amusing... @_@ outta all my dire issues the only thing you care is about that?
[02:47] <el-lectron> why isn't telling me something like ERROR PASSWORD INCORRECT
[02:47] <el-lectron> or smething I can troubleshoot?
[02:48] <el-lectron> I think kubuntu wireless has severe issues to improve
[02:49] <Airforce55555> i dont
[02:49] <Airforce55555> i got my wireless working in 30 minutes
[02:49] <Airforce55555> with 2 commands :D
[02:49] <Airforce55555> and i have a broadcom wireless card
[02:50] <el-lectron> Airforce55555: I do that in even less time without security
[02:50] <el-lectron> Even A Caveman Can Do It
[02:50] <el-lectron> I am talking about encryption here
[02:50] <Airforce55555> oh :P
[02:50] <Daisuke-Ido> el-lectron: if you don't have a decent attitude, your problem doesn't mean much :)  that being said, no, i don't think it supports wpa3 (i wasn't aware wpa3 even existed yet)
[02:51] <el-lectron> oh now is my attitude. Why can't you admit this is something kubuntu needs to improve?
[02:52] <el-lectron> help!
[02:52] <el-lectron> I don't have cash to buy Vista, I am stuck with Kubuntu :(
[02:54] <DaSkreech> kobol: whats up?
[02:54] <Yammeh> el-lectron, don't use wireless.. problem solved
[02:54] <el-lectron> is this WPA2? WEP64/128/256, WPA-PSK
[02:55] <cash> el-lectron you can download key for Vista -free)))
[02:55] <el-lectron> that's what the chipset says suppoert
[02:55] <DaSkreech> el-lectron: It does have issues. If you like you can help out
[02:55] <fignew> el-lectron: who's forcing you to use kubuntu?
[02:56] <el-lectron> I am not rich, that's why
[02:56] <kobol> DaSkreech: I actually figured it out, so no sweat :)
[02:56] <el-lectron> anbody? WEP64/128/256, WPA-PSK = WPA2 ??
[02:56] <Yammeh> el-lectron, it's not that much for a copy of vista
[02:56] <fignew> what does that mean?
[02:56] <DaSkreech> el-lectron: what?
[02:57] <Yammeh> He's just stating encryption algorithms for wireless I think
[03:00] <el-lectron> forget about it ... I am going back to gentoo
[03:00] <fignew> isn't choice wonderful?
[03:01] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:02] <ardchoille> el-lectron: Don't let it beat you.
[03:17] <dsmith__> anyone do an update from 7.04 to 7.10?
[03:17] <stdin> dsmith__: lots of people in #ubuntu+1 have
[03:19] <dsmith__> ok... i am going to try it again since it mentions broadcomm support
[03:19] <dsmith__> however, I am doing a backup beforehand
[03:19] <dsmith__> :)
[03:19] <dsmith__> thx
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Good man
[03:19] <stdin> backups are always a good idea :)
[03:19] <DaSkreech> dsmith__: read the upgrade notices first
[03:20] <dsmith__> i will later this week
[03:22] <keith> Glad I was taking a break while el-lectron was here. What a jerk!
[03:25] <DaSkreech> keith: Alright don't feed trolls after they are gone either
[03:25] <keith> :)  Wouldn't have said it while he was here...and I'll behave now.
[03:26] <keith> Incidentally, for anyone else who was wondering about his question, all he had to do was type "wpa-psk" into Google. It took me right to a Wikipedia page with the answer.
[03:29] <dsmith__> hmmmmm
[03:34] <tony_> I need help with DVD and wmv playback please.
[03:35] <DaSkreech> !dvd | tony_
[03:35] <ubotu> tony_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:35] <DaSkreech> !w32codecs | tony_
[03:35] <ubotu> tony_: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:37] <kobol> DaSkreech: Hey, I have a friend of mine who needs 1680x1024 on Kubuntu, and I can't exactly remember how to go about doing it other than the xorg reconfigure, should I just have him do that? I was in here yesterday and someone named kristjan_ told me about doing it another way, but it was a long, involved process I can't remember :S
[03:37] <osirisBNC> hi i have a netgear WG311 PCI adapter wireless card
[03:37] <osirisBNC> how can i get it to work on kubuntu
[03:38] <osirisBNC> the latest versoin
[03:38] <osirisBNC> version ???
[03:38] <DaSkreech> kobol: It wasn't a long involved process you added a line to a file :)
[03:38] <DaSkreech> kobol: if it makes it easier for the both of you the reconfigure works
[03:38] <osirisBNC> anyone please?
[03:39] <DaSkreech> !wifi | osirisBNC
[03:39] <ubotu> osirisBNC: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:39] <kobol> DaSkreech, well it was like some command in the terminal that showed exactly what needs to be put there and such? Do you know the command?
[03:39] <DaSkreech> erm.. I know the file
[03:40] <DaSkreech> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:40] <kobol> No no, it was like...gtfx or some such, that gave a read out, and all I had to do was copy and paste what it said into xorg.conf
[03:41] <DaSkreech> ah then no I don't :)
[03:44] <kobol> DaSkreech: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it is then! XD
[03:44] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:49] <unaffiliate> Hello friends
[03:49] <DaSkreech> !hi
[03:50] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:50] <DaSkreech> hi nikkiana
[03:50] <lee_> wer in creation is the restricted drivers at?
[03:51] <lee_> and how di i get per missions to ren my ati script?
[03:51] <stdin> !ati
[03:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:54] <lee_> i mean litteraly wheres my restricted card icon at?
[03:55] <lee_> i mean litteraly wheres my restricted card icon at?
[03:55] <lee_> in fiesty? of kunbuntu
[03:56] <stdin> have you looked at the guide?
[03:57] <chucky> ......
[03:59] <halycon> hey everyone
[04:03] <halycon> I am attempting to find out what the device identification is for my ATI Remote Wonder, I used the lsusb command and it provided this information Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bc7:0004 X10 Wireless Technology, Inc. X10 Receiver
[04:03] <halycon> but im trying to configure the XMMS IRMan Configuration and it is asking for the Device and the IR Code Length
[04:04] <halycon> can anyone help me out?
[04:06] <bwayne> whenever I create,copy, or edit a file a backup is also created.  How can I stop this from happening?
[04:07] <jmichaelx> is there such a thing as a usb soundcard that works well (or at all) under linux?
[04:08] <bwayne> never heard of a usb soundcard.  USB MIDI, perhaps.
[04:10] <Kein> D=
[04:11] <Kein> Why did Compiz pretty much all but explode the kde window manager?
[04:11] <yoopernate2004> so is it easier to switch to kde from gnome or should i just do a complete reinstall if i'm worried about the aps and things like that?
[04:12] <stdin> yoopernate2004: you just install "kubuntu-desktop" to get KDE, then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE if you want to remove all Gnome parts
[04:12] <yoopernate2004> thanks
[04:12] <stdin> Kein: compiz replaced the kde window manager, so it's all compiz there
[04:13] <Kein> argh
[04:13] <Kein> well
[04:13] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[04:13] <Kein> that sucks ;_;
[04:13] <Kein> my comp is slooooooooow
[04:13] <Kein> and it took a performance hit after installing compiz
[04:14] <bwayne> Kein: what are your comp's specs?
[04:14] <tekstacy> How do I go about backing up the entire system?   I tried to tell keep to backup / but that didn't work.
[04:14] <Kein> 1.46 ghz processor, radeon xpress X200M for a graphics card, somewhere around 896 MB of RAM, I think
[04:15] <yoopernate2004> do you have direct rendering enabled on your graphics card?
[04:15] <heinkel_111> is the bootlog turned off by default in kubuntu feisty?
[04:15] <kobol> DaSkreech: Any ideas about this one? O_O Fixed his resolution, to 1600x1024, and now he says everything is fuzzy and he can't read it? He could see it fine on Windows mind you.
[04:16] <bwayne> tekstacy: when I want to backup *everything*, I boot into a LiveCD or another partition and then tar.bz2 /*.  Though, really, tarring /* like that really isnt' necessary.
[04:17] <tekstacy> bwayne, thanks, I'll try that
[04:17] <yoopernate2004> easiest way to back up everything that i've found is tar -cvjpf backup.tar.bz2 --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/var --exclude=/dev
[04:18] <yoopernate2004> then add another --exclude and add the file name
[04:18] <compilerwriter> I am trying to do an rc upgrade to gutsy and am not having much luck.  I can't seem to put my finger on what I am doing wrong.
[04:19] <yoopernate2004> what is it telling you?
[04:21] <compilerwriter> I have tried to enable the pre-release in adept-manager and then do the stuff that the website reccomended, but I never seem to get to the version upgrade part of things.
[04:21] <ubuntu> odnt send a link as I am relaoding
[04:22] <ubuntu> erg its me lee lol
[04:22] <yoopernate2004> huh
[04:23] <yoopernate2004> anyone happen to know if the kubuntu desktop i'm loading is the gutsy one?....or even how i could find out
[04:23] <Jucato> yoopernate2004: "lsb_release -a"
[04:25] <compilerwriter> Jucato can you help me step through the rc update to gutsy please I am doing something wrong or missing something and I am getting a wee bit frazzled.
[04:25] <Jucato> compilerwriter: enable recommended and pre-released updates. Fetch Updates, Full Upgrade Apply Changes.
[04:25] <Jucato> then close Adept, then Alt+F2, and enter: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"
[04:27] <DaSkreech> kobol: maybe he needs sharper fonts
[04:29] <compilerwriter> Now I am getting somewhere Jucato.  I must have mistyped something in the command.  It worked when cut and pasted yours.
[04:30] <kobol> DaSkreech: Well he says he's got it, just lowered the resolution a bit, and he can see.
[04:30] <Darkrift412> I got a digital concepts cr-70r multi card reader and linux doesnt seem to find it in lsusb, anyone know what i could do to get it working?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> kobol: Ok :)
[04:31] <Darkrift412> also, witbh it plugged in, lsusb takes like 45 seconds
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> Darkrift412 its a usb ca4rd reader?
[04:31] <Darkrift412> yes
[04:31] <Darkrift412> multi card reader
[04:31] <Darkrift412> has 4 slots
[04:31] <compilerwriter> Jucato I got something about "could not verify the integrity of the update apllication now exiting"
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> thats odd..  Not heard of any issues with those befor.
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> now i have seen issues with internal Laptop card readers.. but never external usb ones.
[04:32] <Darkrift412> yeah, my internal ones dont work, so i got this one
[04:32] <yoopernate2004> you tried the reader in windows by any chance?
[04:32] <Darkrift412> i dont have windows :(
[04:32] <yoopernate2004> maybe you just got a bum reader?  not likely but possible
[04:32] <Darkrift412> only place would be at work, and dont think i can get away with that
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> try a gutsy live cd - would be a good test also.
[04:33] <Darkrift412> yeah, i thought about that
[04:33] <Darkrift412> i wish i had an ide to cf adapter
[04:33] <yoopernate2004> hehe...anyone else happen to see that microsoft and best buy are being sued?
[04:33] <Darkrift412> i have a nice external usb drive enclosure that would work if i did
[04:33] <Darkrift412> no, for what?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> MS being sued is a daily thing.
[04:34] <Darkrift412> yeah
[04:34] <yoopernate2004> racketeering
[04:34] <DaSkreech> compilerwriter: you did a full upgrade ?
[04:38] <compilerwriter> yes DaSkreech
[04:38] <DaSkreech> compilerwriter: and then the adept_manager --version-upgrade gives you a new button ?
[04:38] <kobol> Anyone know why in Adept "Macromedia Flash Player" is greyed out?
[04:38] <compilerwriter> Yes.
[04:39] <letalis> is there a way to 'burn' an iso file to a usb flash drive?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> ok then what happens?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> letalis: sure why not
[04:40] <letalis> the only reason i ask is that you cant use k3b to do it so it must be another way
[04:40] <letalis> im just curoius of how it can be accomplished
[04:41] <compilerwriter> DaSkreech I attempted a version upgrade and then the blasted thing said it couldn't verify something and exited.  I tried again and then it said it was downloading and verifying the upgrade tool.
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Right
[04:42] <compilerwriter> I cancelled that to make sure that I had done the full upgrade thing when you asked and now I am back to the adept thingy.
[04:49] <holyguyver> what do I type in fstab to make it always mount & umount a drive in sudo?
[04:50] <holyguyver> ardchoille, do you know?
[04:50] <kobol> DaSkreech: Do you happen to know why some packages on Adept are grayed out?
[04:50] <kobol> DaSkreech: Such as Wine, or Flash Player?
[04:51] <DaSkreech> !fstab | holyguyver
[04:51] <ubotu> holyguyver: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:52] <greencookie> sup ya'll
[04:52] <greencookie> I'm a newbie to linux and had a question. It doesnt let my screen go beyond 800X600 how can I change it?
[04:53] <holyguyver> well ubotu,, I am tryiong to go there, but my computer is a bit confused right now for I am on a kubuntu running the xcfe gui so konqueror keeps crashing when I try to open it :-p
[04:54] <melody> Evening
[04:55] <greencookie> oh holyguyver do u have another computer u could use to access  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html ?
[04:55] <greencookie> Evening melody
[04:55] <sub[t] rnl> !Resolution | greencookie
[04:55] <ubotu> greencookie: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:56] <holyguyver> naw, I finally got it to work greencookie :-p
[04:56] <greencookie> awesome holyguyver. now if only I could get my video card to work as it should on my box.
[04:56] <greencookie> sub[t] rnl:  I think its problem with my video card..
[04:57] <holyguyver> no I didn't get that to work, I got konqueror to disply the page, that si what I got to work
[04:57] <greencookie> Lol.. at least you're one step ahead now ;)
[04:57] <greencookie> !amarok
[04:57] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[04:57] <holyguyver> not really for it is already under user & it is acting like as if under nouser
[04:57] <greencookie> ah
[04:58] <greencookie> Can someone help me with my video card driver?
[04:58] <greencookie> and my internet wireless adapter driver.
[04:58] <holyguyver> So will someone help me?!
[04:58] <greencookie> it seems I can't connect to wpa connections
[04:58] <greencookie> wierd.
[04:59] <lee986321> ok once this programs done up dating, i ll up grade..
[04:59] <holyguyver> my question was & still is what do I put into fstab to make it mount & umount a drive under sudo
[05:00] <lee986321> eh i think i have the 64 bit on unbuntu on the hdd not sure
[05:00] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: that page shuld help you lots
[05:00] <holyguyver> well it doesnt
[05:01] <DaSkreech> !wpa | greencookie
[05:01] <ubotu> greencookie: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:01] <lee986321> eh wheres that page that tels us how to setup the ati drivers at?
[05:01] <holyguyver> DaSkreech just ask archoille, this is not your average hhd :p
[05:01] <lee986321> or whats the comand line?
[05:02] <lee986321> ati
[05:02] <lee986321> !ati
[05:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:02] <lee986321> ahh ther it is lol
[05:02] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: can You mount it?
[05:02] <DaSkreech> !ati
[05:02] <DaSkreech> doh :)
[05:02] <holyguyver> yes, but only as sudo
[05:02] <greencookie> bingo thats what i needed ubotu thanks!
[05:02] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: that's fine
[05:03] <holyguyver> meaning I can only mount it from within konsol
[05:03] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Whats the command ?
[05:03] <holyguyver> But I want it to mount automaticly
[05:03] <greencookie> Guys when I try to enable the ati restricted driver module X fails to load.. . :(
[05:03] <holyguyver> the cammand is sudo mount /dev/sda1
[05:03] <greencookie> ATI accelerated graphics driver
[05:04] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: can you paste bin your fstab file ?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> greencookie: how are you enabling ?
[05:05] <greencookie> from system>restricted drivers. Then there's only one item there that is the ATI accelerated graphics driver and its state is "not enabled"
[05:05] <greencookie> "not in use"*
[05:06] <greencookie> when i try to enable the driver i get kicked to terminal ... and the only way i got my GUI back is by reinstalling
[05:06] <greencookie> when I lspci i get "1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71a7"
[05:08] <greencookie> help.
[05:08] <holyguyver> DaSkreech here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40763/
[05:09] <greencookie> ok can u guys gimme the command to reset windowsX if it crashes and i can't log in?
[05:09] <greencookie> im gonna try the restricted drivers again.
[05:10] <DaSkreech> greencookie: Alt+ctrl+BkSpc
[05:10] <ksivaji> jay  hi
[05:10] <DaSkreech> greencookie: you crash X a lot ?
[05:10] <jay> hi
[05:10] <greencookie> nah..
[05:10] <ksivaji> jay type "sudo apt-get install gcc g++"
[05:10] <greencookie> only when I enable the accelerated ati driver.
[05:10] <DaSkreech> greencookie: ok I was going to show you how to get here with no X
[05:10] <greencookie> whoa.
[05:10] <greencookie> I wanna try
[05:11] <greencookie> how do i get to u with no x
[05:11] <greencookie> I know about ctrl+alt+f1
[05:11] <greencookie> and ctrl+alt+f7
[05:11] <DaSkreech> greencookie: Right install irssi
[05:11] <DaSkreech> !info inrissi
[05:11] <ubotu> Package inrissi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:11] <DaSkreech> !info irissi
[05:11] <ubotu> Package irissi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:11] <DaSkreech> !info irssi
[05:11] <greencookie> sudo apt-get irssi
[05:11] <DaSkreech> I'm an idiot :)
[05:11] <ubotu> irssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[05:11] <greencookie> ?
[05:11] <lee986321> eh guys i thbik i have a winner..how can i tell what version is running on a hdd?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> greencookie: yes
[05:12] <greencookie> rofl..no ure a real nice guy for helping me out.
[05:12] <jay> Reading package lists... Done
[05:12] <jay> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:12] <holyguyver> DaSkreech, did you take a look at my pastebin?
[05:12] <jay> E: Couldn't find package gcc
[05:12] <DaSkreech> lee986321: /path/to/lsb_release -a ?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> !b-e | jay
[05:12] <ubotu> jay: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:12] <lee986321> ah ok
[05:12] <greencookie> sudo apt-get irssi?
[05:12] <ksivaji> DaSkreech ubuntu is  new  for him
[05:13] <greencookie> I'm getting an error saying invalid operation
[05:13] <greencookie> yep ksivaji im new to ubuntu:)
[05:13] <DaSkreech> greencookie: sudo apt-get install irssi
[05:13] <ksivaji> jay which version of ubuntu you have
[05:13] <greencookie> oh thanks DaSkreech.
[05:13] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: And that doesn't mount on boot?
[05:13] <ksivaji> jay 7.04 or 6.10
[05:13] <holyguyver> DaSkreech?
[05:14] <holyguyver> O hi :p
[05:14] <holyguyver> no it does not mount, I told you it was a special hhd :p
[05:14] <DaSkreech> when you ls /mnt/sda1 it doesn't exist?
[05:14] <jay> kubuntu v 6.06 lts it is a live cd but i installed the os
[05:14] <greencookie> DaSkreech:  im getting
[05:14] <greencookie> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:14] <greencookie> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:14] <DaSkreech> greencookie: you have  adept open ?
[05:14] <ksivaji> jay ok wait
[05:14] <holyguyver> it does exist & it does mount, but only if I go into konsal
[05:15] <greencookie> DaSkreech: whats adept? sorry:(
[05:15] <ksivaji> !source-o-matic
[05:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:15] <DaSkreech> greencookie: are you installing something somewhere else?
[05:15] <holyguyver> !adepy:greencookie
[05:15] <greencookie> DaSkreech: Doh! yes. im updating:)
[05:15] <DaSkreech> !adept
[05:15] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:16] <greencookie> I guess ill wait for it to finish
[05:16] <DaSkreech> greencookie: okie :)
[05:16] <greencookie> I'm loving linux!
[05:16] <DaSkreech> greencookie: read up in the meantime^^^
[05:16] <greencookie> and gnome:D
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Gnome?
[05:16] <holyguyver> he must be on ubuntu
[05:16] <greencookie> yep
[05:16] <greencookie> i hate KDE
[05:16] <greencookie> full of bugs:)
[05:16] <holyguyver> this is #kubuntu
[05:16] <tazz> ^ troll
[05:16] <greencookie> i think
[05:17] <greencookie> heh
[05:17] <jay> what to do
[05:17] <greencookie> is there a #ubuntu?
[05:17] <holyguyver> yes
[05:17] <greencookie> but no one in channel:( hehe
[05:17] <holyguyver> I am using kubuntu with xfce though so :p
[05:17] <greencookie> whats xfce
[05:17] <DaSkreech> greencookie: Are you serious? its the bigest channel on the server
[05:18] <DaSkreech> !xfce
[05:18] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[05:18] <ksivaji> jay    press alt+f2 "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:18] <greencookie> DaSkreech:  my bad i went into #ubuntu? and not #ubuntu . silly '?' makr
[05:18] <greencookie> mark*
[05:18] <DaSkreech> greencookie: Ha ha :)
[05:18] <greencookie> o i got in:(
[05:19] <greencookie> thanks Da
[05:19] <DaSkreech> greencookie: Sure
[05:19] <greencookie> later all you kubunts! im going to ubunt
[05:19] <hydrogen__> hmm.. should NetGear 111vv2 wireless usb adaptor work fine with WPA?
[05:19] <greencookie> Hydrogen: i got same prob:)
[05:19] <jay> what to do next
[05:20] <Hydrogen> greencookie: :/
[05:20] <holyguyver> so anyway DaSkreech figure out what I should put into it yet? :-p
[05:20] <DaSkreech> greencookie: Bye! When you brown out a bit we'll welcome you back! :)
[05:20] <Hydrogen> I suppose I could bust out the ndiswrapper leet skillz
[05:20] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: yo
[05:20] <greencookie> DaSkreech: sure. whats "brown out"? sorry not american:(
[05:20] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: can You check your dmesg for anything to do with sda1 ?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> greencookie: You are a green cookie. I guess you need to ripen some more :)
[05:21] <holyguyver> what is dmesg?
[05:21] <holyguyver> !dmesg
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: It's the log of what the kernel is doing on boot
[05:21] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: type dmesg | grep sda at the command line
[05:21] <holyguyver> I don't need to see it, I know what it is doing, I have read it many times
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Ah wha'ts the error
[05:21] <tazz> i want to upgrade to gutsy, but i am on a dogy 64 kbps connection and i have to download ~950 Mb of pakages. What would you suggest as the best way to go forward.
[05:21] <jay> shivaji u there
[05:22] <ksivaji> jay yes one sec
[05:22] <holyguyver> it can't boot that drive because I do not have the privliges & must run it root, it says
[05:22] <ksivaji> 6.60 is edgy or dapper
[05:22] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: hey
[05:22] <greencookie> DaSkreech: haha ok gotya. btw if u eat dem greencookies ull be in jolly good mood:0 before I leave lemme show u something:
[05:22] <ksivaji> 6.06*
[05:22] <greencookie> !offtopic |Daskreech
[05:22] <ubotu> Daskreech: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:22] <greencookie> bye
[05:22] <greencookie> hehe
[05:22] <ksivaji> !edgy
[05:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the 5th release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:22] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: the only thing the kernel can run as is root
[05:22] <ksivaji> !dapper
[05:22] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[05:22] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: that can't be right
[05:23] <jay> i dont know
[05:23] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: gentoo started giving me kde4 problems so I switched to kubuntu
[05:23] <holyguyver> I know, but that is what happens :-p
[05:23] <CPrgmSwR2> brb
[05:23] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Ah :-) may want to hit #kubuntu-devel to find out about the latest Beta3 packages
[05:24] <Hydrogen> hmm
[05:24] <Hydrogen> this is a fun adventure
[05:24] <holyguyver> I need to have it say something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ntfs-3g rw,user,defaults,force 0 0" in fstab apperantly, but in proper sentex
[05:24] <Hydrogen> my only way of easily accessing the internet from my other box is via wireless
[05:24] <ksivaji> jay are you there
[05:24] <Hydrogen> however although kubuntu recognizes my wireless, it won't do anything with it
[05:24] <jay> s
[05:24] <Hydrogen> and I can't install wine to run the installer and extract the necessary files
[05:24] <ksivaji> jay    press alt+f2 "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"  have you done this
[05:25] <jay> yes
[05:25] <ksivaji> jay do you have a text file
[05:25] <holyguyver> DaSkreecch, you reading me?
[05:25] <jay> ya
[05:25] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: yeah
[05:25] <ksivaji> save that file with some other name because you are going to edit that file now
[05:26] <KDEfanboy> how do i find out what options the packaged kernel is compiled with? specifically i'm looking for low latency CONFIG_HZ_1000 and preemption for optimal performance for whte Enemy Territory: Quake Wars demo that was released today
[05:26] <ksivaji> jay take a backup
[05:26] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: try taking out defaults
[05:26] <DaSkreech> !wifi | Hydrogen
[05:26] <ubotu> Hydrogen: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:26] <holyguyver> DaSkreech, I tried that two hours ago, it did not help.
[05:26] <ksivaji> jay come to #offline (click here)
[05:26] <Hydrogen> DaSkreech: if I hadn't already been there and found that my device "works fine" I'd say thank you..
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Hydrogen: Soooo instead you'll say.... ? :)
[05:27] <Hydrogen> how the eff do I fix it?
[05:28] <holyguyver> DaSkreech, then as I said that page about fstab that you made ubotu say is helpless for my situation.
[05:28] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: odd, kde4 beta3 didn't install right
[05:28] <alex_> fast forwarding in kaffeine causes my desktop to lock up, any ideas?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Ah :-) may want to hit #kubuntu-devel to find out about the latest Beta3 packages ;-)
[05:28] <ksivaji> jay:
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Hydrogen: you ran through troubleshooting ?
[05:28] <Hydrogen> DaSkreech: yes.  Its the driver that sucks.
[05:28] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: What's the exact error from dmesg /
[05:29] <holyguyver> DaSkreech, as I said you could ask ardchoille, he would tell you that everyone agrees, my external hhd is no ordinary harddrive, it is crazy :p
[05:30] <tonyo> alguien de mexicooooooooooo???????????
[05:30] <DaSkreech> !es | tonyo
[05:30] <ubotu> tonyo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:32] <tonyo> I did't ask 4 help, just wanted to know if any mexican was connected xD
[05:32] <tonyo> but thanx
[05:33] <DaSkreech> tonyo: Yes but this is the english channel :)
[05:33] <tonyo> I just never saw that restriction, but i'll search for it
[05:34] <holyguyver> DaSkreech , here is what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40764/
[05:35] <ksivaji>    jay     http://pastebin.com/m604a7442
[05:36] <CPrgmSwR2> Has anyone else been able to get kde4-beta3 to work?
[05:38] <ksivaji> jay are you there ?
[05:39] <holyguyver> So DaSkreech , I suposed it would be "Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 786433"
[05:39] <CPrgmSwR2> where can I download libkpty
[05:39] <DaSkreech> !find libkpty
[05:40] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Where are you getting that?
[05:40] <ubotu> Package/file libkpty does not exist in feisty
[05:40] <holyguyver> I should you the pastebin already that has it
[05:40] <holyguyver> showed
[05:40] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Oh right :)
[05:40] <ksivaji> jay http://pastebin.com/m604a7442
[05:40] <CPrgmSwR2> No wonder beta3 doesn't work
[05:41] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: May want to run fsck on the drive
[05:41] <holyguyver> why would that make a differeance on my privilges?
[05:41] <holyguyver> The drive works
[05:42] <holyguyver> I can readf & write to the files just fione
[05:42] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Yeah true
[05:44] <holyguyver> DaSkreech , I can already read & write to the files just fine, the only problem is it will not let me mount & umount it unless I go into konsal & type in "sudo mount (or umount) /dev/sda1"
[05:45] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: but if it mounts with that it should mount on boot
[05:45] <holyguyver> but it doesn't because it says that I do not have the privliges to mount or unmount it
[05:46] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: can you change user to users ?
[05:46] <holyguyver> in fstab?
[05:46] <holyguyver> but the proper cammand is user
[05:46] <seanix> hi :)
[05:47] <ksivaji>  Jucato :hi
[05:47] <Jucato> hi
[05:47] <CPrgmSwR2> Jucato: hey have you been able to get beta3 to work of kde4?
[05:48] <Jucato> CPrgmSwR2: from svn? yep
[05:48] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Yeah but I wanna see
[05:48] <CPrgmSwR2> from kubuntu packages though?
[05:48] <Jucato> me? hero? lol no
[05:48] <Jucato> CPrgmSwR2: nope... I almost never use our kde4 packs :)
[05:48] <holyguyver> curiosity killed the cat DaSkreech :-p
[05:48] <xevious> i'll use kde4 when it's good and ready
[05:49] <seanix> anyone running 7.10 RC?
[05:49] <CPrgmSwR2> xevious: I have already fallen in love with kde4
[05:49] <ksivaji> seanix #ubuntu+1 for 7.10
[05:49] <xevious> CPrgmSwR2: i bet i will too
[05:49] <seanix> ahhh ok, thanks :)
[05:53] <holyguyver> well DaSkreeck, here is what it said "unable to mount"
[05:53] <mimmo> ciao
[05:53] <holyguyver> DaSkreech *
[05:54] <mimmuzzo> oi
[05:54] <mimmuzzo> italiano ?
[05:54] <Jucato> !it | mimmuzzo
[05:54] <ubotu> mimmuzzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:54] <mimmuzzo> si
[05:54] <mimmuzzo> grazie a te
[05:54] <mimmuzzo> ciao
[05:54] <Hydrogen> well
[05:54] <Hydrogen> thats remarkable
[05:55] <Hydrogen> the windows drivers through ndiswrapper perform worse than the linux drivers
[05:55] <holyguyver> may I change it back to no s now DaSkreech? :-p
[05:55] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Sure :)
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: find the error in this line
[05:56] <DaSkreech>  /etc/fstab:-> /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ntfs-3g rw,user,defaults,force 0 0
[05:57] <Jucato> what error is it giving?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> must be root to mount
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Me either but it's apparently giving this on boot
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Cause you know the kernel normally runs as an unprivileged user ....
[05:58] <Zyklon-B> Is there anything like test-repository for Kubuntu... if you have the addresses I would like to know
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Whatdoes a test repo do?
[05:59] <xevious> Jucato: we can pipe things to users through ubotu? cool!
[05:59] <Jucato> xevious: yep.since looooong ago :)
[05:59] <Zyklon-B> usuall test-repo has the latest version of the programs
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !coc | xevious No we can't stop saying that
[05:59] <ubotu> xevious No we can't stop saying that: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:59] <xevious> Jucato: i'm relatively new here
[05:59] <Jucato> you can also redirect ( > ) so that it PM's the factoid
[05:59] <Jucato> !bot > xevious
[06:00] <xevious> Jucato: cool. thanks
[06:00] <holyguyver> so jucato , have anything ti say to what DaSkreech said about my harddrive? :-p
[06:00] <Jucato> holyguyver: not a clue. sorry
[06:01] <Jucato> what does the wiki say?
[06:01] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[06:01] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:01] <g0dd3ss> hai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??
[06:01] <holyguyver> Are you supposed to be reading that wiki or I jucato? because I read that last month :-p
[06:02] <Jucato> um... you should... maybe it has been updated? dunno... 1) I don't mount my NTFS and 2) I suck at fstab/mount
[06:03] <holyguyver> Jucato it has nothing to do with that ntfs-3g is working as it should, the problem does not lie there, but in the fstab
[06:04] <stdin> it does, "umask=0000" (tho I think "fmask=111,dmask=000" is better)
[06:04] <holyguyver> well then you read it & see if your hunch is right, for if it does, what makes you think that what my fstab has is any different then what they suggest, jacuto?
[06:04] <holyguyver> jucato
[06:04] <jimmacdonald> lots of nividia problems?
[06:05] <DaSkreech> w3m ?
[06:05] <Jucato> yes but I would still have to type in the link manually right?
[06:05] <Goop2> I have a quick question about sound in wine
[06:05] <holyguyver> well I promise you my stab says exactly what the ntfs-3g website told me to put jucato
[06:05] <stdin> Jucato: gpm ftw
[06:06] <stdin> Jucato: lets you use your mouse to copy/paste in a console
[06:06] <Jucato> yeah
[06:07] <Jucato> just too sick today to do that right now
[06:07] <holyguyver> So jucato, since that is the case, try another suggestion :-p
[06:07] <Jucato> so if that's the case, I don't have any other suggestion
[06:08] <holyguyver> you was sick last week too jucato, what ills you? you wouldn't tell me last time :(
[06:08] <Jucato> last week? can't recall. this time, asthma
[06:08] <ksivaji> i know user name password of system with ip 59.92.68.42 ,still i cant login because telnet and ssh says connection timedout ,but i can ping 59.92.98.42 works
[06:08] <ksivaji> is there anyother way to login
[06:09] <holyguyver> yes jucato, a week or two or three ago you said you had a bad day that you didn't want to talk about, that you was very ill.
[06:09] <Jucato> nah that was just me having a bad day :)
[06:10] <jimmacdonald> is anyone else having problems with nvidia cards after the update?
[06:10] <holyguyver> & jucato that time that I was in two or three weeks ago, it was with a problem with this same drive :-p
[06:11] <holyguyver> jucato this drive is a nightmare, no one, has been able to figure it out all this month
[06:12] <holyguyver> I finally got it working 3 nights ago, but only through konsal under sudo
[06:13] <holyguyver> it doesn't seem logical to have to go into konsal & type in sudo mount & sudo umount every time
[06:14] <truth> anyone mind helping me setup a network? i'm running kubuntu on this one, and xp on the other computer
[06:14] <Goop2> anybody know why a game in wine wouldnt give any sound output?
[06:14] <holyguyver> & every time I talk about cracking kde && running permanitly as root all the admins get mad at me :-p LoL
[06:15] <holyguyver> I meant kubuntu not kde
[06:15] <xevious> holyguyver: don't do that!
[06:15] <sd32> which players play divx?
[06:15] <xevious> holyguyver: bad! shame on you!
[06:15] <DaSkreech> !divx
[06:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:16] <sd32> thnaks
[06:16] <Goop2> I would love to run under root all the time
[06:16] <xevious> Goop2: check the winehq appdb. www.winehq.org
[06:16] <holyguyver> jucato you reading me? LoL :-p
[06:16] <Goop2> xevious: I checked and RollerCoaster Tycoon is rated gold
[06:16] <holyguyver> Xevious, so I was not lieing about the admins getting mad when I say that :-p
[06:17] <xevious> holyguyver, Goop2: http://www.ists.dartmouth.edu/classroom/topten-noroot.v8.php
[06:17] <truth> !samba
[06:17] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:17] <xevious> heheh
[06:17] <truth> anyone have any experience using samba?
[06:18] <holyguyver> xevious, I know not to want to run as root all the time, it is obvious you came into my conversation at the wrong time :-p
[06:18] <hdevalence> If I wante dto display line 60 of file foobar, what program would I use?
[06:19] <CPrgmSwR2> is there a way to install the latest drivers for fglrx
[06:19] <CPrgmSwR2> ?
[06:19] <xevious> holyguyver: that link's pretty funny, anyway: 7  	The security permissions are designed to make your day as frustrating as possible.
[06:19] <truth> hmmm
[06:19] <truth> does anyone know where the kubuntu help channel moved to?
[06:19] <holyguyver> truth it is here
[06:20] <Goop2> I dont do that sort of thing though
[06:20] <Goop2> I just want it for icons and things :\
[06:21] <holyguyver> see truth , we helped you admit to being as smart ass :-p
[06:21] <Goop2> I just open konqueror in root though
[06:21] <truth> lol
[06:21] <truth> very clever
[06:21] <Goop2> that woorks
[06:22] <truth> i'm trying to setup a home network. kubuntu and xp
[06:22] <Goop2> install kubuntu over XP
[06:22] <Goop2> that should work
[06:22] <Goop2> :D
[06:22] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Go to ATI's site and get them
[06:22] <holyguyver> here you go here is the kubuntu answer to that truth xp is from ms & ms is the devil, stay away from it :-p
[06:22] <truth> Goop2, if it was up to me, xp wouldn't exist in my home
[06:22] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: I have never had luck with that method
[06:23] <DaSkreech> truth: what are you trying to do
[06:23] <DaSkreech> !ati | CPrgmSwR2
[06:23] <ubotu> CPrgmSwR2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <truth> setup home network where i have access to all files on the xp machine, and be able to use the printer setup on the xp machine
[06:23] <kris> Hi. Is the name of the default sound device in Ubuntu /dev/dsp?
[06:23] <Goop2> truth: Same here. My brother just got vista though, so I have to dodge the demons every time I go to that side of the building
[06:24] <DaSkreech> truth: try smb:/ in konqueror
[06:24] <DaSkreech> !cups | truth
[06:24] <ubotu> truth: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:24] <holyguyver> goop2 install kubuntu over his visa in the middle of the night ;-)
[06:24] <truth> lol@holy
[06:25] <Goop2> holyguyver: I would, but then he would install MS DOS over my Kubuntu
[06:25] <xevious> install plan9 on it
[06:25] <xevious> or openstep
[06:25] <xevious> openstep is sweet
[06:25] <truth> DaScreech: what about.... samba? all the things i've read said to use that
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Or haiku!
[06:26] <xevious> truth: smb:/ accesses the samba network
[06:26] <holyguyver> Goop2 how about you install kubuntu over his vista in the middle of the night & install a vista clone kde skin into it so he can't tell the differance, after all windows people are stupid enough to fall for that ;)
[06:26] <DaSkreech> truth: Let me see if I understand You want the Linux box to be able to see the files on the Windows XP box over shared folders ?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Hey that's not nice
[06:26] <truth> Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall.
[06:27] <xevious> *cough*buttrue*cough*
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[06:27] <xevious> yeah. a vista theme and compiz and you'd probably fool them
[06:27] <DaSkreech> truth: try smb:/ip.of.xp.computer
[06:27] <DaSkreech> till he fires up COD
[06:27] <truth> yes exactly. and also be able to use the printer that is installed on xp
[06:27] <aqej> hello there
[06:28] <DaSkreech> truth: right the CUPS page should help you setup to point at the network printer
[06:28] <DaSkreech> !hi | aqej
[06:28] <ubotu> aqej: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:28] <aqej> do I need a high memory card to run compiz-fusion?
[06:28] <Goop2> holyguyver: I dont think it would work.. Ill just dodge the demons
[06:28] <DaSkreech> aqej: High memory card ?
[06:29] <g0dd3ss> hai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Like above slot 3 on the motherboard ?
[06:29] <truth> Timeout on server
[06:29] <aqej> i mean like a 256MB graphics card?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> g0dd3ss: Where?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> truth: do you have folders shared on the XP box ?
[06:29] <Goop2> g0dd3ss: as a temperary fix you could use Kdocker
[06:30] <truth> 90% sure. let me double check. brb
[06:30] <DaSkreech> aqej: My friend runs it on a 64 Meg Geforce 2 MX if that helps
[06:30] <aqej> I have a 128MB card now but compiz keeps crashing...
[06:30] <aqej> oic
[06:30] <DaSkreech> aqej: try in #ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion
[06:30] <g0dd3ss> DaSkreech, well it just opens in a little window in the top left corner, i would try to uninstall it and get something else but i dont really know what it's called, is there a way i can find out?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> probably kpowermanager
[06:31] <aqej> compiz is still very unstable....
[06:31] <aqej> ok thanks...
[06:31] <DaSkreech> aqej: agreed. It's near alpha stage
[06:31] <aqej> #compiz-fusion
[06:31] <holyguyver> Goop2 don't feel bad, my mother just bought a vista to replace the kubuntu computer I gave her :(
[06:32] <Goop2> holyguyver: ouch
[06:32] <DaSkreech> So did mine!
[06:32] <holyguyver> doouble ouch for us both then :-p
[06:33] <xevious> my mom runs qnx
[06:33] <truth> DaSkreech: Yes, there's shared folders
[06:33] <Goop2> well Ill be buying a mac to replace my moms XP, so I guess its not all bad
[06:33] <DaSkreech> truth: And a firewall I'm guessing?
[06:33] <xevious> no that was a lie
[06:34] <truth> turned off
[06:34] <DaSkreech> truth: Wait turned off?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> truth: zone alarm ?
[06:34] <truth> windows firewall
[06:34] <holyguyver> Goop2 I think mac is almost as bad as MS after all they are closed source too
[06:34] <DaSkreech> ah
[06:34] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:34] <truth> Hmmmmmmm
[06:35] <simon__> hi: someone please help with java issue and firefox
[06:35] <Goop2> I already replaced her powerpoint with open office, and put all her sound in winamp, and video in VLC
[06:35] <truth> This computer and the other has the same ip
[06:35] <keith__> finally I have kde4-beta3 working !!!
[06:35] <DaSkreech> truth: What? virtual machine ?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> hi CPrgmSwR2
[06:35] <truth> virtual machine...?
[06:35] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: hi
[06:35] <DaSkreech> truth: how do you have the same IP?
[06:36] <holyguyver> Goop2 why not just get her a feebsd then?
[06:36] <truth> no idea...
[06:36] <holyguyver> freebsd
[06:36] <CPrgmSwR2> how do I search apt-get using the command line
[06:36] <truth> both computers are hooked to the same router
[06:36] <Goop2> I dont have experience with that
[06:37] <holyguyver> Goop2 it is what mac osx is based on...or is that netbsd, I can't remember which.
[06:37] <DaSkreech> truth: DHCP ?
[06:37] <truth> Ummmm....
[06:37] <truth> !dhcp
[06:37] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[06:37] <holyguyver> !bsd
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <holyguyver> wow ubotu doesn't know about bsd :-p
[06:37] <xevious> figures :D
[06:38] <truth> I don't know....
[06:38] <xevious> holyguyver: osx runs darwin which is a mach kernel, similar to bsd
[06:38] <DaSkreech> truth: Did you put in a IP or did the computer just get one ?
[06:38] <truth> DaSkreech: btw, i'm relatively new to linux
[06:38] <truth> www.whatismyip.com
[06:38] <DaSkreech> truth: No problem
[06:38] <DaSkreech> truth: Ah! I see :)
[06:38] <holyguyver> xevious, but wasn't their an opendarwin project at one time? :)
[06:39] <xevious> holyguyver: there sure was.
[06:39] <DaSkreech> go to the windows Xp box. If you have a network icon in the system tray double click it and then click on details
[06:39] <DaSkreech> You should see an IP address there
[06:39] <holyguyver> so see he shhould get his mother a pc with opendarwin on it instead of a mac :-p
[06:40] <bobzombie> hi
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !hi
[06:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:40] <bobzombie> okay who has kde4 working under gutsy as a testing environment?
[06:40] <xevious> holyguyver: there's no graphical interface in opendarwin
[06:40] <bobzombie> the topic instructions don't work
[06:40] <DaSkreech> bobzombie: gutsy questions are in #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <bobzombie> just curious if there is an alternate method
[06:41] <bobzombie> no
[06:41] <holyguyver> or else get his mom kubuntu with a osx clone kde skin on it :-p
[06:41] <truth> heh.... wow... i shoulda known to check that
[06:41] <DaSkreech> truth: try smb:/with.that.ip.instead
[06:41] <truth> at least i don't pay too much for car insurance
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Thank you progrssive
[06:41] <Goop2> holyguyver: well no, I was getting it for myself, its just going to take over everything hers does
[06:42] <holyguyver> Goop2 why through out kubuntu for osx?
[06:42] <Goop2> I have kubuntu on my desktop
[06:42] <Goop2> I just bought a 500gig hard drive too
[06:42] <Zicks> someone please help with java
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Zicks: Sup ?
[06:42] <Goop2> but I want a laptop, and I like the macbooks
[06:42] <truth> Same thing again.... except this time it took much longer before it told me
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:43] <holyguyver> goop2, get a macbook & install kubuntu onto it :-p
[06:43] <DaSkreech> that's funky
[06:43] <DaSkreech> !info smb4k
[06:43] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-1build1 (feisty), package size 1762 kB, installed size 3756 kB
[06:43] <Goop2> holyguyver: well I probabally will
[06:43] <DaSkreech> truth: install that ^^^
[06:43] <holyguyver> Goop2 :-D Yay!! :)
[06:44] <Goop2> holyguyver: brb, I have a home security thing screeching in my ear
[06:44] <truth> k. brb
[06:44] <sd32> help, my shut down button has dissapeared!!
[06:44] <holyguyver> sd32, unplug it (j/k)
[06:45] <sd32> is there any way to fix it?
[06:45] <sd32> thats what i have to do now
[06:45] <Goop2> holyguyver: I would still dual boot, but I would probabally have Linux on it
[06:45] <utnubuk_> the 7.10 cd wont work on my laptop - I see the mouse cursor appear a couple of times but then the screen flashes and I see "* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)   [OK] " and the computer just sits there doing nothing
[06:45] <utnubuk_> that was in safe graphics mode by the way
[06:46] <utnubuk_> I can ctrl-alt whatever into other shells, but no desktop/
[06:46] <DaSkreech> sd32: When did it disappear?
[06:46] <Goop2> oh sweet I got the sound working in wine
[06:46] <Goop2> now I can play my game!
[06:47] <holyguyver> sd32, I believe you can re-add the shut down button, but I am in xfce right now & thus can not help you out with kde at the moment, sorry
[06:47] <sd32> daskreechabout a month ago
[06:47] <Zicks> How can I download and install java runtime for firefox --- Please someone help
[06:47] <truth> DaSkreech: Finished and open.
[06:47] <DaSkreech> truth: can You connect to the XP machine ?
[06:47] <Goop2> ttyl peeps!
[06:47] <bobzombie> Zicks from the repos
[06:47] <DaSkreech> !java | Zicks
[06:47] <ubotu> Zicks: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:47] <bobzombie> Zicks apt-cache search java
[06:47] <bobzombie> install the sun java binaries and you are done
[06:47] <Zicks> thanks I will try now
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Zicks: do you know how to enable multiverse ?
[06:48] <Zicks> nope
[06:48] <holyguyver> so DaSkreech, any ideas what I can do to get it to mount?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> !multiverse | Zicks
[06:48] <ubotu> Zicks: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:49] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: It should be mounting already Without more info I'm not sure
[06:49] <holyguyver> I am going to call it a night ttyl
[06:50] <DaSkreech> holyguyver: Night hope you get that sorted
[06:50] <sd32> how would i re-add the shut down button?
[06:50] <agent9> what?
[06:50] <truth> I hit scan network and nothing came up
[06:50] <sd32> ilost my shut down button
[06:51] <sd32> :(
[06:51] <truth> I went to Mount Manually... it asked for Share:       IP:         and Workgroup:
[06:51] <chay> NAKIKITA MO BA KO
[06:51] <sd32> it must have wandered off with those hippies:)
[06:51] <agent9> oo
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Share: folder name IP: IP address Workgroup: Work group name
[06:52] <chay> YHEY
[06:52] <chay> KEWL
[06:52] <agent9> wahha kony
[06:52] <chay> asl pls
[06:52] <DaSkreech> !caps | chay
[06:52] <chay> haha
[06:52] <ubotu> chay: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:52] <truth> The input of the share is wrong. It must have the form //HOST/SHARE.
[06:52] <DaSkreech> sd32: How do you shutdown now?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> truth: Ah right
[06:52] <sd32> pull the plug
[06:52] <utnubuk_> i did startx in another bash thing and then looked at the logs, it got (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> try 'sudo halt' :)
[06:53] <utnubuk_> does that have something to do with my problem possibly?
[06:53] <sd32> dr willis, thanks
[06:53] <utnubuk_> and a bunch of errors on the touchpad
[06:53] <agent9> san na?
[06:53] <utnubuk_> hmm
[06:54] <chay> dito ko
[06:54] <chay> chat na tayo
[06:55] <Zicks> I dont have software preferences -- where can i instal it?
[06:55] <agent9> ok
[06:55] <truth> None of that is working
[06:55] <utnubuk_> im using the latest 7.10 iso and it's not working on a laptop that is only a year old.... what gives??
[06:55] <utnubuk_> previous versions worked
[06:55] <sd32> is there anyway to get the shut down button back without reinstalling?
[06:55] <chay> andami namang epal dito
[06:55] <chay> hehe
[06:56] <agent9> oo nga eh
[06:56] <agent9> mga  genius
[06:56] <chay> hahaha
[06:56] <agent9> shut up!
[06:56] <chay> english talaga
[06:56] <DaSkreech> !pl
[06:56] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:56] <agent9> oo nga
[06:56] <chay> nasa ibang dimension tayo
[06:56] <agent9> nakaktawa cla
[06:56] <chay> nababasa kaya nila to
[06:56] <agent9>  malamang
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> sd32 which shutdown button? reisntalling to get a button back is 'windows thinking'
[06:56] <DaSkreech> agent9, chay: This is an english channel
[06:57] <chay> oh ok
[06:57] <chay> im sorry
[06:57] <sd32> dr willis, on the logout screen
[06:57] <DaSkreech> chay: What language is that ?
[06:57] <utnubuk_> !AIGLX
[06:57] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[06:57] <agent9> tagalog
[06:57] <Zicks> DaSkreech : More help please .... I dont have Software Properties option, do I install it ?
[06:57] <agent9> install it
[06:57] <chay> gagu
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Zicks: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[06:57] <chay> prolixus version
[06:58] <utnubuk_> !PreInit
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about preinit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <Zicks> 7.04
[06:58] <melkor__> How do I configure xorg.  I don't have a 'screen' on my new laptop
[06:58] <DaSkreech> !tl
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <chay> nose bleed
[06:58] <agent9> buy new
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> sd32 should be a kdm/gdm setting.  if its missing.   if you are refering to the USERS logoiut screen.. If using KDE and KDM you will see different options - then ifyou were using GDM and KDE.
[06:58] <agent9> oo nga
[06:58] <agent9> mukha sila tanga no?
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Zicks: When you go to adept -> manage repos what do you see ?
[06:58] <chay> ulol pla sila dito eh
[06:58] <chay> haha
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> sd32 or ya can always hit alt-ctrl-backspace, - then alt-ctrl delete real fast. :)
[06:58] <agent9> ha..ha
[06:59] <Zicks> Im installing adept now, It wasnt on before
[06:59] <chay> baka matulungan nila tayo
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> all i wanna do is adjust my froggin fan speed :\
[06:59] <agent9> bka
[06:59] <DaSkreech> !tgl
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tgl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:59] <chay> magtanong ka
[06:59] <utnubuk_> where can I get an old tribe4 image????
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> !en | chay
[06:59] <ubotu> chay: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Zicks: are you on ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[06:59] <sd32> dr willis thats confusing:/
[06:59] <Zicks> ubuntu
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> utnubuk_: why would you want one?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Zicks: Oh never mind then
[06:59] <chay> san ka na
[06:59] <agent9> dito
[06:59] <truth> Arg..... no luck.
[07:00] <chay> wag ka umalis] 
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> sd32 its trivial.. IF you are using KDE then use KDM as your login manager. If using GNOME mainly then use gdm.
[07:00] <agent9> binbsa ko
[07:00] <utnubuk_> Daisuke-Ido: the latest 7.10 cd wont work, tribe 4 will I want to upgrade from there
[07:00] <truth> Maybe something isnt setup correctly on the xp machine
[07:00] <Daisuke-Ido> english only in here.
[07:00] <agent9> dito nga lng
[07:00] <chay> leche
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> sd32 if you get the 2  mixxed up - you wont get all the 'logout' optiions
[07:00] <sd32> dr willis, gotcha, thanks
[07:00] <agent9> leche
[07:00] <chay> leche ung daisuke na un ah\
[07:00] <utnubuk_> Daisuke-Ido: any ideas?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Zicks: Why didn't you ask for help in #ubuntu ?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> !ph | agent9, chay
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> sd32 or use the halt command. :) or any of a dozen other ways.
[07:00] <ubotu> agent9, chay: Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[07:00] <Zicks> oh
[07:00] <Zicks> ok
[07:00] <Zicks> thanks
[07:00] <Daisuke-Ido> utnubuk_: wait 3 days?
[07:01] <chay> wtf
[07:01] <agent9> bet namen pake mu
[07:01] <chay> epal sila
[07:01] <utnubuk_> Daisuke-Ido: pfff okay, what happens in 3 days?
[07:01] <chay> pinapalayas na nila tayo
[07:01] <sd32> dr willis, so using the gnome login is messing me up?
[07:01] <Daisuke-Ido> final release
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> sd32 if you are using GDM and KDE - YES. it will not show all the options.. plain and simple. :)
[07:01] <utnubuk_> aha
[07:01] <rob> chay, please cut that out :)
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> sd32 change them and see.
[07:01] <utnubuk_> how do I know it will work for me?
[07:02] <agent9> weeeeeeeee patawa ung rob kalbo
[07:02] <sd32> dr willis, thanks
[07:02] <rob> agent9, english please
[07:02] <chay> bago lang sya dito ha
[07:02] <DaSkreech> !ops
[07:02] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[07:02] <agent9> paki mu rob
[07:02] <chay> hahaha
[07:02] <Daisuke-Ido> utnubuk_: if the live cd doesn't, use the alternate cd
[07:02] <truth> DaSkreech: IP address IS assigned by DHCP. (i dont know if this is causing a problem)
[07:02] <DaSkreech> truth: no that's fine
[07:03] <DaSkreech> truth: if it was and both had the same IP address that would be worrying but it's ok
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> night all.....
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Night
[07:03] <truth> Maybe I am partial.... but i think problem is with xp
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> little music, time for sleep
[07:03] <DaSkreech> truth: I'd probably say so as well but still lets try and see if We can fingure it out
[07:04] <Daisuke-Ido> got 3 of the 5 pages for my analysis of SCOTUS's 1973 abortion decision :\
[07:04] <Daisuke-Ido> gnight
[07:04] <DaSkreech> chay: We don't have a problem with you being here. If you want to speak in tagalog please join #ubuntu-ph
[07:04] <truth> Awesome.
[07:04] <chay> this is the brand new chay, welcome me back rob!
[07:04] <rob> ahuh
[07:04] <DaSkreech> this is an english channel and we are trying to help people the less distraction we have the better
[07:05] <chay> ok
[07:05] <chay> i need help as well
[07:05] <DaSkreech> chay: fine. Ask for it in a language we can follow in
[07:06] <DaSkreech> english in here tagalog in #ubuntu-ph
[07:06] <truth> both pc's are on a wired connection to the same router
[07:06] <truth> through a hub
[07:06] <chay> mi nombre es elena, bente uno, mula sa mexico
[07:06] <DaSkreech> truth: you have ever connected another machine to those shares ?
[07:07] <rob> chay, #ubuntu-ph please
[07:07] <truth> no
[07:07] <chay> si senor
[07:07] <chay> mi a latina
[07:07] <rob> thanks stdin :D
[07:08] <jdong> meh I prefer that rosetta stuff for learning new languages
[07:08] <stdin> rob: np :)
[07:09] <Nebular> does anyone here know much about the analog kernel module. I need to manually map the buttons and axis of my gamepad, it says you should be able to do that but I can't figure it out
[07:09] <Nebular> very little on the web on it
[07:09] <DaSkreech> jdong: Ouch Like pain?
[07:10] <jdong> DaSkreech: si senior :)
[07:14] <truth> I'm making 0 progress with this.
[07:15] <truth> completely stumped
[07:18] <truth> Help?
[07:18] <joseph> Can anybody tell me what I get a usb hard drive to work in kde it works fine in Gnome
[07:19] <bobzombie> where is the kde session manager so i can add startup items for my session?
[07:20] <DaSkreech> truth: Turn the firewall on and make sure it allows windows shares ?
[07:21] <sub[t] rnl> bobzombie: kstart->system settings->advanced->Session manager configures sessions.  But to auto start apps you can make a sym link to them in ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:23] <sub[t] rnl> !autostart
[07:23] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[07:24] <melkor__> Well shit, I entered some things and it works, now I run gnome I guess
[07:25] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[07:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:25] <sub[t] rnl> don't let stdin catch you cursing melkor. :P
[07:25] <sub[t] rnl> or DaSckreech!
[07:25] <blackhand> man o man.... I am loving this OS.
[07:26] <sub[t] rnl> blackhand: good to hear
[07:26] <DaSkreech> He said run *bleep* stdin! get him!!
[07:26] <blackhand> :)
[07:26] <melkor__> sorry
[07:26] <melkor__> I got a little excited
[07:26] <DaSkreech> melkor__: Were you trying to run gnome?
[07:26] <bobzombie> you mean kde doesn't have a gui sessio nmanager?
[07:26] <DaSkreech> blackhand: how long have you been using it?
[07:26] <bobzombie> i find that hard to believe, i thought i saw on ein an earlier version
[07:27] <blackhand> My first day...
[07:27] <blackhand> I loaded this on the PC and Mandriva on the laptop.
[07:27] <DaSkreech> blackhand: Welcome to Kubuntu!!
[07:27] <blackhand> thank you!
[07:27] <blackhand> :)
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Boy if you love it now I don't know how you are going to feel in a year!
[07:28] <DaSkreech> right after the whole I hate this OS phase :)
[07:28] <DaSkreech> hi nixternal
[07:29] <truth> i give up for now
[07:29] <melkor__> DaSkreech I installed it from a kubuntu cd, same one this is running
[07:29] <truth> ty for the ideas DaSkreech
[07:29] <blackhand> I just wanted to rid myself of Windows once and for all...
[07:30] <blackhand> Smooth transition so far.
[07:30] <DaSkreech> truth: ok you can read up on cups for the printing
[07:30] <truth> blackhand: Welcome to the revolution
[07:30] <DaSkreech> !cups > truth
[07:30] <blackhand> :)
[07:30] <blackhand> ty...\
[07:31] <wastedfluid> hey guys - when you're playing with a theme in the theme manager.. what option is the color of applications in your taskbar tht are minimized/inactive?  I can't find it.
[07:32] <BlackHand> Off to bed... thank's for the welcome.
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Night
[07:37] <kristjan_> is kde-look.org down?
[07:37] <kristjan_> do they have irc channel?
[07:40] <melkor__> night
[07:40] <DaSkreech> night
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Probably not kristjan_
[07:41] <kristjan_> DaSkreech: do you remember what was the biggest wallpaper size there?
[07:41] <DaSkreech> freaking big ?
[07:41] <kristjan_> oh wait, I could browse offline if I knew where that config is hidden in konqueror :-/
[07:47] <mr_butter> hey peeps.  I isntalled something using apt-get install cvs I want to remove it can someone help please?!
[07:49] <mr_butter> hey peeps.  I isntalled something using apt-get install cvs I want to remove it can someone help please?!
[07:49] <mr_butter> woops
[07:49] <mr_butter> sorry
[07:49] <mr_butter> double post
[07:49] <truth> !adept
[07:49] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:50] <stdin> mr_butter: tried "apt-get remove <package>" or using adept?
[07:50] <mr_butter> than you peeps
[07:51] <DaSkreech> mr_butter: You installed something with cvs or you installed cvs ?
[07:52] <Ayabara> I'm having a go at desktop effects here. Which Composite Manager would you guys recommend for Kubuntu?
[07:52] <mr_butter> I installed cvs
[07:52] <mr_butter> this is the reply i got to apt-get remove it
[07:53] <mr_butter> pasting a few lines don't kill me
[07:53] <mr_butter> sudo apt-get remove cvs
[07:53] <mr_butter> Password:
[07:53] <mr_butter> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:53] <mr_butter> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc
[07:53] <DaSkreech> mr_butter: You have adept open
[07:53] <Daisuke-Ido> is synaptic or adept open?
[07:53] <mr_butter> yes'
[07:53] <DaSkreech> mr_butter: close it and use sudo aptitude remove cvs
[07:53] <Daisuke-Ido> read the errors you're getting, think them through, you might have better luck fixing things than you thought
[07:54] <Daisuke-Ido> but why remove cvs?
[07:54] <mr_butter> well I didn't know what I installed I thought it was a webcam driver
[07:54] <mr_butter> whats it's purpose
[07:54] <mr_butter> it's not the driver i thought it was
[07:54] <Daisuke-Ido> cvs is content versioning system
[07:55] <Daisuke-Ido> it isn't directly useful, but it allows you to get source to compile other software
[07:55] <Daisuke-Ido> is that what cvs stands for?
[07:55] <Daisuke-Ido> if not it at least sounds plausible
[07:56] <mr_butter> yes it's removing
[07:56] <mr_butter> thanks peps
[07:56] <mr_butter> peeps
[07:56] <mr_butter> and I thought I was the only one using KDE
[07:57] <thumper> how can I get kdm back?
[07:57] <thumper> I installed ubuntu-desktop so I could play
[07:57] <thumper> but it overwrote kdm with gdm
[07:58] <thumper> I want my kdm back
[07:58] <thumper> pointers?
[07:59] <Lynoure> reinstall kubuntu-desktop? or just reconfigure kdm, I think
[07:59] <Lynoure> But gotta run now.
[08:00] <dorkface> Is this the right channel if one is having problems getting a burned kubuntu cd to work?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> thumper: reconfigure either gdm or kdm it will ask if you want it as default
[08:00] <DaSkreech> dorkface: sure
[08:00] <thumper> DaSkreech: ta
[08:01] <dxdt> Will the next version of Kubuntu have the cool desktop effect menus and such that Ubuntu will have?  I see screenshots of Gutsy and I want the neat 3 radio button wizard for installing desktop effects and such
[08:01] <dorkface> Yeah, for some reason, the CD does nothing on boot up; it goes directly to windows
[08:01] <dorkface> even though within windows, it can see the iso image on it when it is explored
[08:01] <dorkface> it does this on two seperate machines
[08:02] <dorkface> assuming "iso image" isn't redundant :d
[08:03] <DaSkreech> dorkface: How did you burn it?
[08:03] <sub[t] rnl> dorkface: have you checked your bios to see if you boot from a cdrom before the harddrive?
[08:03] <sub[t] rnl> hrm
[08:03] <DaSkreech> dxdt: Probably not but you can apt-get install compiz-fusion
[08:04] <dorkface> sub[t] rnl:  Yes, I did double check that.  As a matter of fact, on the first machine, I made it so that ALL of the boot steps were to boot to CD; it still booted to windows
[08:04] <dxdt> that is really the only thing I want from the gnome based version
[08:04] <dxdt> I find myself otherwise leaning toward KDE on how things are done
[08:04] <dorkface> DaSkreech:  I burned it on a windows vista machine, onto a CD-R
[08:04] <DaSkreech> dorkface: How?
[08:04] <dorkface> in terms of software?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> yes
[08:05] <truth> I immediately tend to blame Windows for everything
[08:05] <dorkface> whatever Vista uses
[08:05] <sub[t] rnl> DaSkreech is on the right path then, sounds like it wasn't burned properly
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Naw some stuff I blame hardware manufactuere for
[08:05] <DaSkreech> dorkface: Urk
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !iso
[08:05] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:05] <dorkface> tehe
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !live cd
[08:05] <dorkface> teehee
[08:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Bah
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !nero
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nero - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <DaSkreech> dorkface: Does the ISO get it's own icon?
[08:06] <dorkface> yeah
[08:06] <dorkface> a blue cd
[08:06] <dorkface> but not on the CD
[08:06] <dorkface> on the OS
[08:07] <dorkface> on the CD, it has the "not recognized" icon
[08:08] <sub[t] rnl> try using some other app to burn the .iso file, besides a vista native
[08:08] <dorkface> I'll try that, and perhaps at a slower speed too, just in case
[08:08] <truth> dorkface: When you reboot, do you see something that says Boot Menu - Press F12    or anything that resembles that
[08:08] <sub[t] rnl> truth: he's booting from cdrom before harddrive
[08:09] <sub[t] rnl> dorkface: if I remember correctly poweriso is a lightweight program that does great.  I believe its free
[08:09] <truth> dorkface: How many cdrom's are in your system?
[08:09] <dorkface> just one
[08:09] <truth> PowerISO or MagicISO
[08:09] <DaSkreech> dorkface: Laptop?
[08:09] <dorkface> ty, I was just about to ask what you guys would recommend for a lightweight burn program :)
[08:09] <dorkface> one is a laptop, another is a  desktop
[08:10] <DaSkreech> http://www.deepburner.com
[08:10] <truth> I always used MagicISO or Alcohol 120%
[08:11] <truth> Well actually, I'm in the process of backing up files on a machine running Windows.
[08:12] <truth> Whenever I'm done....    :)
[08:13] <djdarkman> is there a way to edit the kde service menus?
[08:14] <mario> salut
[08:21] <djdarkman> how can I copy a file using kde`s copy instead of cp from the terminal?
[08:23] <DaSkreech> djdarkman: right click -> copy to -> browse to directory ?
[08:23] <djdarkman> no no I mean by command
[08:24] <djdarkman> I want to make a kde servicemenu that copys or moves a file to a specified directory
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Sorry
[08:25] <DaSkreech> I'm heading to bed
[08:25] <DaSkreech> djdarkman: $kde ?
[08:25] <DaSkreech> #kde ?
[08:25] <djdarkman> tryng there too
[08:25] <stephan_> hello, i am having trouble uninstalling f@h client and when i try to kill the process it says i dont have permission
[08:26] <jari> hi, could some one say what the orange color means in the ls command? Im trying to figure whats the difference between two subversion repositories
[08:26] <djdarkman> stephan_: do it with root
[08:26] <djdarkman> and if you 'uninstalled' it, it won`t start after reboot
[08:26] <truth> sudo killall filename  ?
[08:33] <dorkface> Ah, thank you everyone.  When I used deepburner, at the slowest speed (just in case), the boot up works fine now
[08:34] <dorkface> too bad DaSkreech went to bed, hehe
[08:34] <sub[t] rnl> good to hear dorkface
[08:37] <Knightlust> hi guys, how can i see my sysinfo from konsole.. kinda like doing /sysinfo in konversation
[08:38] <bodly> Sysinfo for 'jirussel-laptop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz at 1000 MHz (3661 bogomips), HD: 54/92GB, RAM: 1820/2017MB, 133 proc's, 12.42h up
[08:39] <stephan_> thx guys, i got it figured out now
[08:39] <truth> Sysinfo for 'kubuntu': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.20GHz at 3200 MHz (6408 bogomips), HD: 53/109GB, RAM: 318/374MB, 108 proc's, 17.2h up
[08:42] <snowdonkey> Hi.  Does anyone know how to remove the transparent bar in Yakuake?
[08:47] <truth> i have a secondary hard drive that freezez up at 75% when I try to format. What is the cause of that, bad sectors?
[08:47] <nacholibre> buy a new one...
[08:47] <truth> It freezes up the entire system and I have to turn off with the power button.
[08:47] <nacholibre> remove it
[08:48] <truth> No possible way to fix it?
[08:48] <nacholibre> imho:
[08:48] <nacholibre> NO
[08:49] <nacholibre> What do U want to do with the storage?
[08:49] <nacholibre> Save music, films, photos?
[08:49] <truth> yes, use it only as storage
[08:49] <nacholibre> Okay, this isn't a good idea!
[08:50] <nacholibre> Because: I had allready a lot of broken hard disks and always I thought to myself:
[08:50] <nacholibre> It works!
[08:50] <truth> Maybe I could i just use like 70% of it and leave the other part free...
[08:50] <nacholibre> It works
[08:50] <nacholibre> And one day: BANG! All data was out of the range.... . Say goodbye forever!
[08:50] <keith> Excuse me for butting in. Truth, I agree with nacholibre. That drive will fail on you, and it might not give any other warnings. Just "pop", and all your data's gone.
[08:51] <nacholibre> :(
[08:51] <nacholibre> You're welcome keith ;)
[08:51] <truth> yep i know ya'll are right. i'm just being cheap
[08:52] <keith> If you have to use it, put /swap and /tmp on it. Temporary stuff that won't make you sad when the drive dies.
[08:52] <truth> but wtf.... why do drives die like that
[08:52] <nacholibre> I'll wouldn't even use any hardware which is 99,99999 % usefull, because my 20 GB personal lost data was too much... :( And you can be sure:
[08:52] <nacholibre> It's too much!
[08:53] <truth> that 25% dead hd is 200 gb
[08:53] <keith> Truth, I can't tell about your drive. But in the past, I've seen this same problem as a result of a head crash.  Somebody bumped the drive too hard when the heads were at the 75% point, and it scratched the surface.
[08:54] <nacholibre> okay folks, university doesn't wait for me ;( have to go!
[08:54] <nacholibre> CU and think twice truth ;)
[08:54] <nacholibre> bye bye
[08:54] <truth> k. ty nacho. pz
[08:55] <keith> A head crash that doesn't instantly kill the drive still does eventually. The head that crashed won't record or playback as well. The scrape on the surface tends to spread, with little magnetic flakes occasionally popping off from the fast spin.
[08:56] <keith> Eventually, the head completely fails, or one of those tiny flakes flys between the head and surface, causing another crash.
[08:57] <keith> It sucks having it happen to an 800gb drive, though!  I sure sympathize.
[08:58] <jussi01> Hmmm, anyone got a Logitech MX Revolution mouse? Im thinking of getting one, want to see if it all works in linux etc
[08:59] <keith> And it's my bedtime too.  Good luck, truth.  G'night all!
[08:59] <truth> Anyone know what I can use in place of Motorolla Phone Tools?
[08:59] <truth> c ya keith
[09:00] <Knightlust> truth: kmobiletools, although I haven't tried
[09:01] <truth> !kmobiletools
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <jussi01> !info kmobiletools
[09:01] <ubotu> kmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:02] <truth> showoff :p
[09:03] <truth> oh yea.. i already have that, it doesn't work very well.
[09:04] <jussi01> truth: did you enable the motorola battery feature?
[09:05] <truth> i mean, i got it to work. but it doesnt do file transfers
[09:07] <truth> motorolla phone tools was bangin :) it even had a built in mp3 cropping tool to make custom ringtones
[09:08] <truth> i just found one called moto4lin, i'm about to give it a try.
[09:08] <truth> !moto4win
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moto4win - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <truth> !info moto4win
[09:08] <ubotu> Package moto4win does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:08] <truth> oops
[09:08] <truth> !moto4lin
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moto4lin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <truth> !info moto4lin
[09:09] <ubotu> moto4lin: file manager and seem editor for Motorola phones (like C380/C650). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3+svn20060819-1 (feisty), package size 147 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:09] <jussi01> !botabuse > truth
[09:13] <matti_> Noo
[09:15] <ville_> ff
[09:32] <viljami> teerwe
[09:33] <viljami> gegguli
[09:33] <viljami> whow
[09:35] <jussi01> viljami: do you need some help?
[09:38] <viljami> no vittu en!
[09:39] <stdin> !fi
[09:39] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[09:58] <truth> hello ppl?
[10:00] <emilsedgh> !hi | truth
[10:00] <ubotu> truth: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:00] <truth> i'm having the hardest time getting a home network setup
[10:02] <ForgeAus> yeah they can be fickle like that
[10:02] <ForgeAus> truth are you using nfs?
[10:02] <truth> nfs?
[10:02] <truth> samba
[10:02] <ForgeAus> ahh ok
[10:03] <truth> i just want to be able to access the files and use the printer thats running on the xp machine
[10:03] <ForgeAus> samba has a config file..
[10:03] <ForgeAus> prolly under /etc/samba/ at a guess...
[10:03] <ForgeAus> I've toyed with it before
[10:03] <truth> yep it is
[10:04] <truth> i opened it earlier, i was reading a response to a similiar problem someone had on a forum
[10:04] <ForgeAus> are you getting an error?
[10:04] <ForgeAus> is it an authentication issue?
[10:04] <truth> server timed out
[10:05] <ForgeAus> you mean the xp machine?
[10:05] <truth> i've never setup a network before... i very well could be doing something wrong
[10:05] <truth> yes, when trying to connect to the xp machine
[10:05] <ForgeAus> well first of all are they on the same network? (physically do they share a lan connection to a central device?)
[10:06] <truth> yes
[10:06] <truth> to a hub
[10:06] <truth> to a router
[10:06] <ForgeAus> ok then check the ip's are tehy in the same range generally X.X.Y.Y where X.X and subnet masks are the same
[10:07] <ForgeAus> doh I gotta go
[10:18] <dorkface> there is a different version of "gksudo" in kde, right?
[10:18] <pag> !kdesu | dorkface
[10:18] <ubotu> dorkface: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:19] <dorkface> ah, thank you
[10:19] <emonkey-p> kdesu
[10:21] <ashfaq> Friends, is their a possibility of using voice messenger like yahoo, googletalk in kde
[10:21] <ashfaq> Anything equivavalent willdo
[10:22] <truth> ommfg
[10:23] <[4N93L] > :|
[10:23] <truth> i'm ready to sling this xp machine off my balcony
[10:23] <[4N93L] > lol
[10:23] <[4N93L] > i like xp,but not as much as kubuntu
[10:23] <pag> ashfaq, Kopete supports voicechat for some protocols - not sure which ones though
[10:24] <truth> any idea how to get a home network setup between xp and kubuntu?
[10:24] <[4N93L] > try Remote Desktop Sharing. :\
 procols means, will be able to connect, some one using yahoo, or google using windows
[10:25] <[4N93L] > :|
[10:25] <truth> i dont know where to begin to try that.
[10:26] <rubato> How do I install Japanese Language support for programs like Open Office and Kopete?
[10:26] <[4N93L] > truth, try the program "Krdc" found under "Internet".
[10:27] <pag> ashfaq, pardon? ie. Google talk (or actually xmpp) is a protocoll used for communication - it has many client, like Google Talk, Kopete, Pidgin etc..
[10:28] <german> does anyone know how to donwload mauk from hotmail to thunderbird?
[10:28] <[4N93L] > hmm .. i never tried downloading mail from hotmail to thunderbird. :\
[10:28] <truth> when i hit scan, it doesnt detect anything
[10:29] <se7en^Of^9> german: as fare as i know hotmail doesn't suport pop3
[10:29] <se7en^Of^9> and hotmail sux anyway
[10:29] <[4N93L] > truth: is ur xp connected to the net ?
[10:29] <[4N93L] > se7en: i like hotmail v_v
[10:29] <truth> yes.
[10:30] <german> i found something under adept manager pop3 an smtp to hotmail gateway,
[10:30] <german> if it is lsited in adept, does it mean is sure?
[10:30] <mr_butter> if I wanted to remove a user and all it's settings.  How would I go about it in X ?
[10:31] <truth> on the xp computer i have made the mshome
[10:31] <se7en^Of^9> german: try it ... might work ...
[10:31] <truth> i can go into there, and open up network connections, browse to "entire network" and theres a workgroup named mshome, which reveals  the files i want to share
[10:31] <truth> its hooked up to a hub that goes to a router
[10:32] <truth> both computers are connected to the same hub
[10:32] <Kachna> mr_butter: delete his /home/user dir and delete him in kcontrol or somewhere :)
[10:32] <mr_butter> ty
[10:32] <mr_butter> in would have to do it from root right?
[10:33] <mr_butter> i'm trying to erase my kde account and everything to do with it and start again
[10:33] <mr_butter> i filled it with nonsense
[10:33] <truth> maybe i need to do something to samba.... i have no idea...
[10:33] <rubato> i'm really new, and the tutorials i've looked through were really confusing. I'm running feisty fawn, and I am trying to get Japanese Language support to work in programs like OpenOffice and Kopete. Any suggestions?
[10:34] <se7en^Of^9> truth: you see the shared folder from the linux box?
[10:34] <truth> no
[10:35] <truth> i tried open konqueror and typing smb://ipofothercomputer
[10:35] <truth> it says it timed out
[10:35] <pag> !info openoffice.org-l10n-ja | rubato
[10:35] <ubotu> rubato: openoffice.org-l10n-ja: Japanese language package for OpenOffice.org. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1640 kB, installed size 7384 kB
[10:36] <mr_butter> if i don't come back i screwed everything up. I'll try and use the force
[10:36] <mr_butter> is there a way to format it all without removing the OS like a clean sweep?
[10:36] <se7en^Of^9> truth: try smbtree
[10:37] <[4N93L] > Arghhh !! I need help with Java. -_-;
[10:37] <ksivaji> !gnusim8085
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnusim8085 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <truth> yes 4n, i have the ip of it.
[10:38] <[4N93L] > :|
[10:38] <[4N93L] > Wow, was i lagging ?
[10:38] <truth> no no, i was fiddling before i seen it
[10:38] <[4N93L] > oh ><
[10:39] <truth> <[4N93L] > try Krfb, u will get the ip# though both are using the same :\
[10:39] <[4N93L] > How do i install the latest version of Java ?? Anyone able to help ?
[10:39] <ksivaji> is there anyone using opendns in kubuntu
[10:40] <[4N93L] > I installed Java6, but need the "Update 3" and i cant seem to install it. =\
[10:41] <ksivaji> !java
[10:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:45] <rubato> ubotu: I'm sorry your response to my question about Japanese was very confusing to me, I am extremely new to this
[10:45] <truth> i'm stumped!
[10:46] <rubato> pag: I'm sorry your response to my question about Japanese was very confusing to me, I am extremely new to this OS
[10:46] <truth> could someone take it from the beginning explaining what steps i should take in setting up a home network
[10:47] <pag> rubato, in other words: just install the package openoffice.org-l10n-ja from Adept, and you should get Japanese support to oo.o
[10:48] <rubato> pag: will this carry over to inputting in Kopete or firefox?
[10:49] <pag> rubato, that'll carry only the language of GUI in OO.o, inputting options shold be changed with keyboard-settings in System Settings
[10:52] <[4N93L] > Grrrrr .. still not working . -_-;
[10:53] <[4N93L] > java's getting on my nerves.
[10:54] <mr_butter> me to
[10:55] <VSpike> This may be a wierd question, but when I'm working on one task, I might end up with a kpdf window, an open office or two, maybe a few firefox pages and so on open, all relating to the task.  Sometimes I may want to put that down and work on it later.  I know I can use desktops to organise things, but they still clutter the task bar.  Is there a way to save and restore a bunch of open windows or documents, sort of like a snapshot or session
[10:55] <VSpike> information?
[10:55] <rubato> thank you pag that seems to have worked
[10:56] <VSpike> I can't even find a way to do that just with firefox - opera used to have a save session option which was quite useful
[11:04] <_aaa> lost passwords can be recovered how?
[11:04] <rohan_> what package does kubuntu use to display OSD when i control volume using volume keys on keyboard ?
[11:31] <ciacon> g'mornin @ all
[11:32] <german> yeeey
[11:32] <german> i got hotmail working with thunderbird
[11:33] <[4N93L] > german: congrats. =] 
[11:33] <ciacon> I have a fairly simple q. how can I ajust my refresh-rate of my screen? I have looked through the monitor settings avadible with KDE... 59hz is way to low - i am rather lokking for somthing like 1600x1200 @ 85hz
[11:34] <mr_butter> is there a way to convert a gnome account to kde
[11:34] <mr_butter> useless gnome assaulting my life
[11:34] <mr_butter> ahsdha
[11:34] <rohan> mr_butter: user accounts are the same for gnome and kde
[11:34] <rohan> if you want to install kde, just do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <mr_butter> ya but i log onto my root
[11:34] <blendtux> what do you mean working with hotmail german
[11:34] <mr_butter> and it goes to ubuntu
[11:34] <mr_butter> not kubuntu
[11:34] <mr_butter> which is disturbing
[11:35] <mr_butter> apt install hmmm
[11:35] <mr_butter> excellent
[11:35] <[4N93L] > blendtux: german can view his emails found in Hotmail using his/her Thunderbird.
[11:35] <mr_butter> alt space dosen't even work in gnome is there another command for slingshot?
[11:35] <blendtux> oh oke, but can he allso send his email via thunderbird [4N93L] 
[11:36] <[4N93L] > blendtux: i hope so. ><
[11:36] <[4N93L] > psh !! how do u ppl type in red?! =_=
[11:37] <blendtux> what do you mean [4N93L] 
[11:37] <pag> [4N93L] , it's called highligh - happens, when your nick is mentioned
[11:37] <blendtux> yeah like [4N93L] 
[11:37] <blendtux> not with [4N93L
[11:37] <blendtux> blendtur
[11:37] <blendtux> but blendtux
[11:37] <blendtux> ehm
[11:38] <[4N93L] > o0o0o0oh. gracias for the info.
[11:38] <[4N93L] > [\]  bows [\] 
[11:38] <pag> blendtux, you can't highlight yourself :)
[11:38] <blendtux> yes i saw that :)
[11:38] <[4N93L] > damn irc, need to work on it more often. :\
[11:39] <utnubuk_> 7.10 and 7.04 install disks dont work, i tried the alternate install disk for 7.04 and it seems to be hanging up....   any ideas???
[11:39] <utnubuk_> tribe 4 worked fine and I want to get my laptop working again
[11:41] <utnubuk_> better yet - does anybody know if I can somehow download tribe 4?
[11:41] <utnubuk_> that would be f'n sweet
[11:42] <utnubuk_> argh.... averatec sucks
[11:42] <utnubuk_> does kubuntu prefer itself to be on the first partition??
[11:43] <utnubuk_> the two question marks means that this is a serious question - three would make it incredibly serious
[11:43] <utnubuk_> four question marks would just be insane
[11:43] <mr_butter> 4 would be ludacris
[11:43] <mr_butter> banned in most countries
[11:43] <utnubuk_> lol
[11:44] <utnubuk_> omg the timer thing just changed over to an arrow, maybe there is hope
[11:44] <mr_butter> ubuntu should install as kubuntu and ubuntu as option.  I can't even function in ubuntu i almost threw my monitor into oblivion and i could. I have spares
[11:45] <mr_butter> is there a way to check your online timer in kde?
[11:45] <mr_butter> konversation i mean sorry
[11:45] <utnubuk_> what you mean by online timer?
[11:45] <utnubuk_> omg the background popped up...
[11:45] <mr_butter> like an irc timer
[11:45] <mr_butter> in konversation saying
[11:45] <utnubuk_> today might turn out to be a good day
[11:45] <mr_butter> you been online for so long
[11:45] <utnubuk_> umm i know theres a way
[11:45] <utnubuk_> hold on
[11:46] <lup0> anyone know about kvpnc usage? Any problems with fields being disabled when they shouldn't be
[11:47] <utnubuk_> did everyone see that?
[11:47] <utnubuk_> if so im sorry
[11:47] <[4N93L] > utnubuk: I didnt
[11:47] <utnubuk_> k good
[11:49] <utnubuk_> mr_butter: do a whois
[11:50] <vbgunz> so Kubuntu 7.10 will have support for printers, even printers that don't have drivers for Linux at all?
[11:50] <mr_butter> well it supports all my hp stuff i didn't have to install anything
[11:50] <mr_butter> i plugged it in and good to go
[11:51] <utnubuk_> I finally got kubuntu running on my machine, but my password is wrong :/
[11:51] <utnubuk_> how could i be so dumb?
[11:51] <vbgunz> mr_butter: ubuntu is great. but I read somewhere ubuntu 10 features in 10 days, printers will just be supported or something to that effect... where can I get more info?
[11:52] <mr_butter> i'm not sure boss i run kubuntu i plugged in my hp scanner and printer and started working it no problem.  Can't say the same for my creative webcam though no juice there
[11:53] <mr_butter> when i went to print it asked which device i want to use and the hp stuff came up right away
[11:53] <mr_butter> it's probably the main reason why i deleted windows
[11:53] <mr_butter> that and the viruses
[11:53] <utnubuk_> i cant remember my password because i'm a tar
[11:53] <utnubuk_> d
[11:53] <Hamra> hello everyone, installed firefox yesterday but its still not working properly, i create a profile when it asks for one, but when i run firefox again, i dont see the profile i created!
[11:53] <vbgunz> I use Kubuntu too. incredibly a printer/scanner in the house keeps us running XP.
[11:54] <mr_butter> hmm what type vb hp?
[11:54] <vbgunz> lexmark
[11:54] <Riddell> ** test final candidate ISOs https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Kubuntu  on #ubuntu-testing
[11:54] <mr_butter> mine is not a combo i have an old ghetto scanner from 97 that it picks up no sweat
[11:54] <mr_butter> usb cables?
[11:54] <vbgunz> yeah
[11:55] <mr_butter> i'm not quite sure then one of these elite members should be able to help.  So far everything worked plug and play even my Wireless card I plugged it in and right away it detected it.  All old equipment i'm not sure as how to install or where to get drivers for your item what model is that bitch?  I mean printer
[11:55] <mr_butter> or scanner
[11:56] <utnubuk_> AHA! it was my name which i could not remember
[11:56] <mr_butter> rofl
[11:56] <mr_butter> happens to the best of us
[11:56] <mr_butter> even the worst
[11:57] <utnubuk_> on a serious note, my machine is running very slow ... any ideas why?
[11:57] <mr_butter> what kind of box you runnin utnubuk?
[11:57] <utnubuk_> the mouse lags behind by at least a second or so
[11:57] <mr_butter> that would make me snap
[11:57] <emilsedgh> utnubuk_: use top command to see which process is using resources
[11:57] <mr_butter> smash the screen even
[11:58] <emilsedgh> utnubuk_: open kosnole and type top
[11:58] <vbgunz> mr_butter: lexmark 2300, it appears a live cd picks it up on another machine... thats wild, but thats ubuntu... I plan on upgrading to kubuntu, it just might work
[11:58] <utnubuk_> it should have enough horsepower - 1.8 and 512 ram
[11:58] <utnubuk_> ok thanks emilsedgh
[11:58] <mr_butter> kubuntu should work the same no?
[11:58] <mr_butter> aside from it's better than ubuntu hehehhe
[11:58] <mr_butter> hmm
[11:58] <mr_butter> does it say the model when you plug it in?
[11:58] <mr_butter> or when you go to print
[11:58] <mr_butter> ?
[11:59] <mr_butter> or ask even which device to use
[11:59] <mr_butter> utnubuk yea man that's enough juice i'm running a celeron 1ghz with 256mb of ram!
[11:59] <vbgunz> yeah, it finally shows it but trying to print causes a cup error of known format/document something like that
[11:59] <mr_butter> and that rocks
[12:00] <german> could anyone try to play this http://83.241.238.20:80/bandit/?mswmext=.asf
[12:00] <mr_butter> hmm strange what file type are you printing something you wrote/copied/pasted in kubuntu or some windows or mac doc
[12:00] <german> i cant get amarok to play it
[12:00] <vbgunz> was thinking of grabbing this ram from newegg today http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211066
[12:00] <mr_butter> german is it going to spam my ass?
[12:00] <mr_butter> vb whats your box running?
[12:00] <german> not at all, it's a swedish radio station
[12:00] <vbgunz> mr_butter: 'this is a test' inside a new document inside gedit
[12:00] <vbgunz> heh, it's all good, i will look further into it. I'll get it, hopefully :)
[12:01] <utnubuk_> a german that listens to swedish radio, eh?
[12:01] <utnubuk_> i wouldn't trust it ;)
[12:01] <mr_butter> not a crime in this country
[12:01] <german> lol i am not german, my second name is german, in spanish it sounds as herman
[12:01] <mr_butter> besides if it's crap i'll verbally burn him in here
[12:02] <german> i am Southamerican but i live in sweden, close to santa claus
[12:02] <mr_butter> all good man
[12:02] <german> my amarok is playing with Xine, but still it says the media is not supported
[12:02] <mr_butter> stanbye german
[12:02] <mr_butter> stanbye
[12:03] <mr_butter> or whatever it is
[12:03] <mr_butter> ya i had a few beers
[12:03] <utnubuk_> german maybe try vlc??
[12:03] <mr_butter> no go german
[12:03] <mr_butter> no connect
[12:03] <vbgunz> I cannot wait for vlc to go completely qt, might just make that my video player of the year. I hope it's clean :)
[12:03] <german> well kaffeine plays it, i jsut wanted a sole program to play it
[12:03] <mr_butter> i just clicked
[12:04] <mr_butter> i'll load up kaffeine
[12:04] <mr_butter> one sec
[12:04] <utnubuk_> i ctrl-alted into a new shell, ran top, and i don't know how to interperet it....  is 100.0% sy bad?
[12:05] <vbgunz> utnubuk_: press h
[12:05] <utnubuk_> it says events/0 under command, 99.7% spu
[12:05] <utnubuk_> cpu i mean
[12:05] <mr_butter> i've got no go on kaffeine german repeat no go
[12:06] <german> kaffeine dd not play it?
[12:06] <mr_butter> no connection whatsoever damnet
[12:06] <mr_butter> nope
[12:06] <mr_butter> just ran it
[12:06] <german> it plays it for me,
[12:06] <mr_butter> should i try xine?
[12:06] <mr_butter> of course
[12:06] <german> weird
[12:06] <mr_butter> your on your own network
[12:06] <mr_butter> i'm out here miles away in the ice block of canada
[12:06] <utnubuk_> panspermic deevolution
[12:07] <german> ice block, man we hace -5 today
[12:07] <german> well thanks fr the help
[12:07] <mr_butter> damn
[12:07] <mr_butter> celsius?
[12:08] <german> off course, who counts in farenheits?
[12:08] <utnubuk_> what the hell is events/0 ????
[12:08] <utnubuk_> this is a four question mark question... i think the police might already be outside
[12:09] <utnubuk_> im going to try killing it
[12:09] <utnubuk_> right after i find out how
[12:09] <utnubuk_> operation not permited....
[12:09] <utnubuk_> damn
[12:10] <utnubuk_> i need a bigger gun i think
[12:11] <utnubuk_> "Kill PID 5 with signal [15] : "  What the hell does it want me to type?
[12:12] <utnubuk_> is events/0 kernel essential?
[12:15] <utnubuk_> this sucks.. i cant even get to my desktop
[12:19] <utnubuk_> !events/0
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about events/0 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <Hamra> !alternate CD
[12:26] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[12:26] <Hamra> !Minimal
[12:26] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:27] <Hamra> ! kubuntu DVD
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu dvd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <Hamra> !installation DVD
[12:27] <utnubuk_> hamra do you know what events/0 is?
[12:28] <Hamra> sorry pal, no idea, having a bad, huh?
[12:28] <Hamra> bad day*
[12:28] <utnubuk_> yeah its taking like 99.7 to 100% of my cpu.
[12:28] <utnubuk_> and it wont die
[12:29] <utnubuk_> theres got to be an infinite loop somewhere which pisses me off because this is a fresh install
[12:30] <Hamra> try pressing ctrl-esc, something like a task manager starts
[12:30] <utnubuk_> i cant even get to my desktop man
[12:30] <utnubuk_> im trying to do top in a ctrl-alt-f1 thingy
[12:32] <compilerwriter> Ladies and Gents I am currently in the midst of an upgrade to the rc and seem to have stalled out.  I seem to be preparing cupsys interminably.
[12:32] <Hamra> does it tell you what process is doing this? name, PID, anything?
[12:33] <utnubuk_> pid 5
[12:33] <utnubuk_> the 'command' is events/0
[12:33] <Hamra> can you type anything in the shell?
[12:34] <utnubuk_> yeah
[12:34] <Hamra> try "kill pid 5", try sudo if it didnt work
[12:35] <ilovemoon86> salve!
[12:36] <ilovemoon86> qualcuno pu aiutarmi?
[12:37] <compilerwriter> !adept fix | compilerwriter
[12:37] <llutz> ubotu: afaik events/[n]  is the kernel thread-handler, not an own "command"
[12:37] <llutz> utnubuk_:  afaik events/[n]  is the kernel thread-handler, not an own "command"
[12:37] <ilovemoon86> ho un problema con adept
[12:37] <Hamra> !es
[12:37] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:37] <utnubuk_> llutz: any ideas on how i can get it to stop hogging my cpu??
[12:38] <llutz> utnubuk_: sry no
[12:40] <utnubuk_> screw it - im changing over to vista :D
[12:40] <Hamra> im looking at my process table, i can see my events/0 and its "Nice" is -5, with the ata and scsi processes having the same "Nice"
[12:40] <superdude3334> no dont do that vista sucks
[12:40] <utnubuk_> i have -5 as well
[12:41] <Hamra> yup, i must agree, vista turned out to be a lot more buggy
[12:43] <Hamra> /me is going for a few minutes
[12:50] <ghost> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=7963124
[01:01] <Hamra> i take my internet by LAN from another computer, so it is always on, if i hibernate while adept is downloading, will it resume when i start my computer again?
[01:07] <Hamra> !hibernate
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <Rudd-O> hi guys, need a little support here with kde4?  kde4 3.94 is telling me that libkpty.so cannot be found.  any idea which package need I install?  KUbuntu here.
[01:08] <Rudd-O> any ideas?
[01:08] <DocTomoe> KDE4 is beta.
[01:09] <Rudd-O> DocTomoe: I know that.  That's why I said "testing"
[01:09] <Rudd-O> (oh I idn't say it)
[01:09] <Rudd-O> I want to test it
[01:10] <DocTomoe> well, Rudd-O, I don't want to be rude ... but how about joining #ubuntu+2 or something?
[01:10] <Rudd-O> OK
[01:10] <Rudd-O> thanks
[01:11] <stdin> Rudd-O: have you installed kde4base-dev?
[01:11] <Rudd-O> thanks DocTomoe
[01:11] <stdin> (and #ubuntu+2 doesn't exist)
[01:11] <Rudd-O> yes it does
[01:11] <DocTomoe> stdin: redirects to +1
[01:11] <stdin> well it's not official
[01:11] <stdin> DocTomoe: then why not say +1 ? ;)
[01:12] <DocTomoe> stdin: will kde4 be in gutsy? *I* think rather not :)
[01:12] <stdin> not by default, it'll be in universe
[01:12] <lup0> !countdown
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about countdown - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <DocTomoe> we will see ... I, for onw, believe it when I see a working kde4 in universe, not before ;)
[01:13] <lup0> !gutsy
[01:13] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:13] <stdin> it's working as much as it can be
[01:13] <lup0> no countdown clock :(
[01:13] <stdin> with it not being complete
[01:13] <DocTomoe> :%s/working/complete/g
[01:13] <[4N93L] > Buhbye y'all. =] 
[01:24] <pwner> hi
[01:25] <pwner> hi subraman
[01:25] <pwner> i
[01:26] <subramani> pwner: hi
[01:26] <pwner> where are you from?=
[01:35] <Ax-Ax> What was the name of that GTK Amarok?
[01:35] <Ax-Ax> Ex something
[01:39] <Rudd-O> exaile?
[01:39] <Rudd-O> banshee?
[01:40] <electuZ> hi
[01:40] <electuZ> Help! eth0 has disappeared..
[01:41] <llutz> electuZ: gutsy? try eth1
[01:42] <juanra> necesita ayuda con adept
[01:42] <llutz> !es | juanra
[01:42] <ubotu> juanra: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:46] <electuZ> llutz | sometimes there s only eth3 or eth5 ...
[01:47] <llutz> electuZ: i don't know what the intention for that renameing was, it's bugging me too
[01:58] <julius> Is it just me or is dolphin a gnome app?
[01:58] <Hamra> !dolphin
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <julius> the new file manager for 7.10
[01:59] <llutz> julius: it should be kde but is crippled like a gnome-app ;)
[01:59] <julius> exactly
[01:59] <julius> A paragraph describing it made me laugh, said it was much more simple with less confusing features
[01:59] <llutz> i heard it will be better with the kde4-version. let's wait
[02:00] <Hamra> when i install 7.10 will i be able to not use this dolphin?
[02:00] <julius> as long as konquorer still works perfectly ill be happy
[02:00] <julius> yeah
[02:00] <Dragnslcr> !info dolphin
[02:00] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB
[02:00] <julius> just defaults to dolphin, dunno how hardi t would be to change it back
[02:00] <llutz> julius: konq is crippled too by default :(
[02:00] <Hamra> didnt like GNOME at all
[02:00] <julius> dont like gnome at all
[02:00] <pag> julius, easy. Changing that was the first thing I did since upgrade :)
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> I don't see how dolphin can be a KDE app. There's no K in it
[02:01] <julius> Dragnslcr: dont go all apple on me :p
[02:01] <julius> is there going to be compiz integration and a different font set?
[02:02] <Hamra> !info compiz
[02:02] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 60 kB
[02:03] <Hamra> what is a compositing manager?
[02:03] <julius> kwin and metacity
[02:04] <pag> julius, those are Window Managers. Composite managers are ie. xcompmgr & kompmgr (and of cource Compiz)
[02:05] <julius> ah ic
[03:07] <flake> hey hey, wine's latest update fixes some redraw problems, now can see what I'm doing with anim8or
[03:08] <flake> it's gonna be a good day for a release, when thursday gets here :)
[03:09] <DevideZero> kubuntu gusty has been released ?
[03:09] <letalis> DevideZero: i dont think so, not officially anyway
[03:10] <DevideZero> letalis , can you see this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40810/
[03:11] <letalis> what it means is that gutsy isnt offically stable for a release yet, and because it isnt youll have to wait on the official cds once it does.
[03:12] <flake> why is there only two more days then
[03:12] <DevideZero> letalis , but on the second line , they say that there alrwady have sent to me the cd;s
[03:12] <letalis> as of right now unless something changed since yesterday that i am unaware of gutsy is still in beta testing
[03:12] <flake> ubuntu homepage, 2 days until 7.10
[03:13] <letalis> theyre usign a 3rd party shipping comapny to do the shipping end of the process is what i gether from that
[03:13] <MarcC> help! everything on my screen has shifted to the left by about 50 pixels :-/
[03:13] <MarcC> is there an X command I might have accidentally pressed?
[03:14] <hw_> Can someone help me with "Framework not found exception": http://pastebin.archlinux.org/15966 ?
[03:14] <letalis> i would be more concerned if you didnt see them in a few days
[03:14] <letalis> as of right now, i cant imagine them coming out with gutsy cds when ive been getting daily updates through adept because of changes made the previous day to the system
[03:15] <letalis> gutsy is in a pretty large state of flux, not as bad as  it was but close.
[03:16] <letalis> lol
[03:16] <Chani> I stuck a dvd in my laptop, and chose to play it with kaffiene, but I get a xine error saying "The source can't be read." and another saying "No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/hdc)" with details...
[03:16] <Chani> the details suggest that a plugin *was* found, though
[03:17] <Chani> 09:15:11 PM: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [dvd:///dev/hdc] 
[03:17] <Chani> 09:15:11 PM: xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [dvd:///dev/hdc] 
[03:17] <Chani> 09:15:10 PM: xine: found input plugin : DVD Navigator
[03:21] <danielgu> */j norge
[03:21] <MarcC> ok, so the answer to my problem was, "start StepMania, then exit the program to reset your display" :D
[03:24] <Kobol> Does anyone know if there's a way to apt-get or use adept to get Firefox's plugins, such as Flash Player, and Java?
[03:25] <Jucato> Kobol: flashplugin-nonfree for Flash
[03:25] <Jucato> and sun-java6-plugin (or sun-java5-plugin) for Java
[03:25] <Jucato> you can see those in Add/Remove Programs (under Flash and Java plugin)
[03:26] <Kobol> Jucato, thanks :)
[03:30] <Chani> gee, this might be a clue: libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[03:30] <Chani> maybe I didn't install what I thought I did
[03:31] <Chani> funny, aptitude's not finding any css stuff
[03:31] <Jucato> !decss
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about decss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <Jucato> er..
[03:31] <Jucato> !dvd
[03:31] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:31] <Jucato> Chani: ^^^
[03:32] <Hamra> what is the best multimedia player? or at least what do you (people here) recommend?
[03:32] <Jucato> !best
[03:32] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:33] <Hamra> ok, thnx
[03:33] <Chani> hrm.
[03:33] <Chani> is libdvdcss not in multiverse? or is something odd about aptitude's searching?
[03:34] <llutz> Chani: it's in medibuntu
[03:34] <ardchoille> Chani: libdvdcss2 can't be in the supported repos do to legal issues
[03:34] <Jucato> Chani: yep. as ardchoille said
[03:34] <Chani> oh
[03:35] <Chani> I assumed it'd be in the same class as mp3 stuff
[03:35] <Jucato> it's more in the win32codecs class :)
[03:35] <Chani> I could've sworn I installed those too :)
[03:35] <Jucato> start swearing :)
[03:35] <ardchoille> medibuntu is ice
[03:35] <ardchoille> *nice
[03:36] <Chani> ugh, the tutorial I found was all gtk-oriented] 
[03:36] <stdin> css is a form of encryption, so breaking that encryption is illegal in some places. also distributing potentially illegal "cracking" software is something canonical would want to avoid
[03:36] <Kobol> Jucato, I got this error when trying to download it with sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[03:36] <Chani> stdin: yeah, I know all that
[03:36] <Kobol> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:37] <Chani> I just thought multivers included all the stuff of questionable legality
[03:37] <Kobol> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
[03:37] <Jucato> Chani: nope. we can't include legally questionable stuff
[03:37] <Hamra> anybody know where firefox stores information about the location of a certain profile? it keeps forgetting the profiles!
[03:37] <Angelus> is there a way to enter a boot option to change the monitor resolution on the live cd
[03:37] <Angelus> ?
[03:37] <Jucato> multiverse is for non-free licensed software that we're free to distribute
[03:37] <ardchoille> Jucato: So medibuntu, unlike automatix, is trustworthy?
[03:37] <Jucato> Hamra: ~/.mozilla I presume
[03:37] <Chani> did it include it back when universe was doiabled by default?
[03:37] <stdin> Chani: mp3 support is legal just about everywhere, css is more difficult (the law is ambiguous on it)
[03:37] <Jucato> ardchoille: that I don't know
[03:38] <ardchoille> ok
[03:38] <Jucato> Chani: dvdcss was never in the repos
[03:38] <Chani> ah
[03:38] <Chani> I guess I just never paid attention to it :)
[03:38] <Chani> this is the first time I've had  any desire to use a dvd
[03:39] <Chani> really I'd like to play it in my bf's laptop, but there's something funny about the disk that his drive can't handle
[03:40] <LjL> ardchoille, Jucato: medibuntu tried to overwrite some ubuntu-repos-provided packages for me, on Edgy. i don't know if that would have caused me problems (as i just installed the .debs manually then), but overall, i haven't heard a complain about medibuntu. i'd say it's in the same league as winehq: not official ubuntu repos, but ones we know are kept updated and are generally sane. we can recommend them to people who need the stuff that's contained in them.
[03:40] <ardchoille> LjL: Ok, thank you for that info.
[03:41] <Jucato> thanks too :)
[03:41] <Chani> argh. where's the actual repo url?
[03:41] <Chani> !dvd
[03:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:41] <ardchoille> Jucato: I don't think so, ljl types pretty fast.
[03:41] <LjL> heh sometimes i pass the freenode message length limit without even quite noticing :)
[03:41] <Jucato> ardchoille: it still takes more time than this simple one liner :P
[03:42] <stdin> Chani: you can install libdvdcss2 with "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh" IIRC
[03:42] <Kobol> !flash
[03:42] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:42] <Jucato> Kobol: sorry spaced out for a moment. can you run "sudo apt-get update" then try installing flashplugin-nonfree again?
[03:42] <ardchoille> :)
[03:43] <Chani> ls: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: No such file or directory
[03:43] <Kobol> Jucato: Same :(
[03:43] <Chani> stdin: oh, you've got a different path from the howto
[03:43] <ardchoille> Chani: You have to install libdvdread3 first
[03:43] <stdin> Chani: yeah, the one in the guide is older
[03:43] <Jucato> Kobol: oh...
[03:43] <Kobol> Jucato: Oh and no rush, I'm reading a rather good book as I sit here :)
[03:44] <Jucato> Kobol: hm.. I've seen that error before.. but frankly I can't recall the fix...
[03:44] <Chani> ardchoille: it's installed, has been for ages
[03:44] <Kobol> Jucato: The annoying bit is, it's grayed out in Adept.
[03:44] <Chani> hmm.
[03:45] <Chani> first I should check whether wget still works with the recent proxy changes
[03:45] <Jucato> Kobol: hm.. the repository might not be enabled.. it's in Multiverse...
[03:45] <Jucato> !multiverse
[03:45] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:45] <Kobol> Jucato: Oh funky, Lemme look.
[03:46] <Chani> what was the command for erasing a variable that's been set with export foo=bar?
[03:46] <Jucato> unset
[03:47] <Jucato> unset $foo
[03:47] <Jucato> iirc
[03:47] <stdin> minus the $
[03:47] <Chani> thanks
[03:48] <Jucato> ah ok. thought the $ was needed :)
[03:48] <[maTa] > is there any way to remove LVM?
[03:48] <stdin> Jucato: the shell will always expand the variable *before* executing ;)
[03:48] <Jucato> ok ok. I was wrong... :)
[03:49] <Chani> [maTa] : you mean repartitioning?
[03:50] <stdin> Jucato: ie: if foo=bar then, "unset $foo" = "unset bar"
[03:50] <Jucato> ah ok
[03:51] <Chani> bugger. that didn't actually solve my problem
[03:51] <Chani> libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/chani/.dvdnav/.map'
[03:51] <Chani> libdvdnav:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
[03:51] <Kobol> Jucato: Multiverse is enabled, still grayed out :( Is there an alternative? I'm not attached to Adobe lol, I just want to be able to use YouTube and such.
[03:52] <stdin> !gnash
[03:52] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[03:52] <Dalton> does anyone know how to install the 32bit compatibility versions of some libraries?  My 64bit install of VMware Workstation 6 will not run without a series of 32 bit libraries - although the 64 bit versions are already installed.
[03:52] <Kobol> stdin: Thanks :)
[03:52] <louis> hallo thomas
[03:53] <Dalton> I am using Kubuntu 64 bit and trying to get vmware to run
[03:53] <stdin> have you had a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware ?
[03:54] <Dalton> thanks for the link stdin, I am looking now
[03:54] <louis> hoi
[03:58] <Kobol> ehm O_O
[03:59] <Goodgame> ?
[03:59] <Kobol> Goodgame: My Firefox broke :( Every time I open the preferences, it crashes >.,
[04:02] <Kobol> What the hell!
[04:02] <xenol> anyone here playing truecombat:elite? i got few issues that need to be solved
[04:03] <Kobol> Now after I uninstall it, I reinstalled it, and it's still broken? It like...saved all the data >.<
[04:04] <[maTa] > Chani: yep
[04:04] <LjL> Chani: i think export -n variable
[04:04] <[maTa] > i wanna create one more partition ntfs
[04:05] <Chani> fuck.
[04:05] <Chani> regionset didn't help
[04:05] <Jucato> er language Chani :)
[04:05] <Chani> I still can't play this dvd
[04:06] <ardchoille> Chani: Not all dvd's are playable. I have all required files/apps/packages installed and I have found a few dvd's that just won't play.
[04:07] <ardchoille> Chani: What is the title of the dvd
[04:09] <Kobol> I need some help, does anyone perhaps know where Firefox keeps most of it's data? I need to delete it :( Everytime I uninstall it, and then reinstall it, it's all there, including whatever caused me to NOT be able to use it.
[04:09] <Chani> ardchoille: the title of the original was snatch. this is a copy my friend made.  I am suspicious of whether he did it properly - but he's fairly experienced, and this error seems to be a fairly common one
[04:09] <Chani> lots of posts onhte internet about people having this problem, and then eventualy they say they fixed it, but don't say how :P
[04:10] <Chani> the error suggest to me that I might have the same issue with other dvds
[04:10] <ardchoille> Some dvd's contain bad sectors intentionally.. but there is info in the dvd that tells the player which sectors to skip. Most Linux dvd players don't read this "info" and puke when it reaches one of those intentionally bad sectors. This was an attempt to keep "unauthorised" dvd players from reading certain dvd's.
[04:10] <stdin> Kobol: backup (ie, move) ~/.mozilla/firefox somewhere and then open firefox
[04:10] <ardchoille> Chani: I have Snatch and it play fine here.
[04:11] <Chani> the real test would be to see if the original would play, but said original is in another country right now
[04:12] <ardchoille> iirc, libdvdcss treats a dvd as a block device and doesn't bother with decrypting the content
[04:12] <Chani> looks like it would've been less of a hassle to just download it
[04:12] <stdin> erm, entering mercy waters here
[04:13] <ardchoille> stdin: ok
[04:13] <jeffm> HI, all.  My kioslaves seem to have broken recently.  I'm not sure if it was an upgrade or something else, but I did have an episode a while back where Konqueror lost some of its settings.
[04:13] <stdin> just watch what you say "the man" may be watching ;)
[04:13] <ardchoille> Kudos to Linux for teaching me so much :)
[04:14] <jeffm> At any rate, does anyone know how to reset the settings for the kioslaves?  I can't seem to find a "settings" file if one exists.  The place where they all (ftp://, smb:// and fish://) seem to hang up is with authentication.
[04:16] <Chani> well, I tried a random chinese dvd and it plays, albiet with this wird flicker every 2-3 seconds
[04:16] <Chani> so I'm gonna assume that disk was a coaster
[04:16] <Kobol> stdin: Thanks! :)
[04:16] <Chani> it's way too late anyways. neeed sleeeep.
[04:17] <Kobol> stdin: Don't suppose you happen to know how to make Firefox the standard way to open links? (Such as in here, and the like)
[04:17] <Rudd-O> hope you like this: http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/10/16/a-visual-stroll-through-the-world-of-kde-4-beta-394/
[04:17] <stdin> Kobol: System Settings > Default Applications
[04:18] <rnieto> hi
[04:18] <Chani> thanks all
[04:20] <atlfalcons866> can install kde4
[04:22] <ardchoille> Kobol: konversation>
[04:22] <ardchoille> ?
[04:26] <Kobol> stdin: Thanks again! :)
[04:26] <Kobol> ardchoille: Yes, I got it now ;)
[04:26] <ardchoille> ok
[04:27] <BlueAidan_work> how do I troubleshoot my ipod not automounting?
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> quiet in here....
[04:57] <notv> anyone know pascal?
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> nah...he lived like 400 years ago.
[04:57] <ardchoille> lol
[04:58] <notv> heh
[04:58] <ardchoille> Oh, wow, knetwalk was installed by default but wasn't in the menus. Nice game.
[04:59] <emilsedgh> lol
[05:00] <ashfaq> Will I be able to install flash pluggin from adobe site? how?
[05:00] <nosrednaekim> !flash
[05:00] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:05] <nosrednaekim> uhhgg I need to talk to BluesKaj
[05:06] <Kobol> Can anyone tell me off hand what the sudo apt-get install -f command does? The -f is what's throwing me.
[05:06] <nosrednaekim> -f is force
[05:06] <nosrednaekim> do "apt-get --help" which will explian things
[05:07] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: Thanks.
[05:07] <ashfaq> Ubutu: I have amd 64 machine, it says their is no flash plugin, is it true
[05:07] <Kobol> Oi! >.< This is...annoying lol
[05:08] <Kobol> All of these packages I need seem to be...inter-dependant on one another, and I can't install just one.
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> ashfaq: ah... 64 bit flash.
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: what are you trying to install?
[05:08] <pag> Kobol, nosrednaekim: -f stands for --fix-broken
[05:09] <Vermux> does anybody knows where is the location of the following file in Kubuntu? /usr/include/asm/errno.h  ??
[05:09] <nosrednaekim> uhh... right where it says it is
[05:09] <ashfaq> Where to find and how to get it installed in kde Please nosrednaekim
[05:10] <pag> Vermux, ie. /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14/include/asm-um/errno.h depends on kernel's version though
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> !flash | ashfaq
[05:10] <ubotu> ashfaq: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:10] <emilsedgh> gnash is there for 64bit systems too
[05:10] <pag> Vermux, " locate errno.h " might help you finding it
[05:10] <Kobol> pag: Does that mean if I used -f it would install it's dependancies as well?
[05:12] <pag> Kobol, afaik it just mean, that if there's an error in apt's database, it'll try to fix it
[05:12] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: Oh, and I'm trying to install Envy
[05:12] <Vermux> page, how do I get explanation on locate in the cmd?
[05:13] <pag> Vermux, man locate ?
[05:13] <pag> !envy | Kobol
[05:13] <ubotu> Kobol: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[05:13] <Vermux> pag: yes, that I already know- but a shorter version. something with the question mark or the word "help" maybe?
[05:14] <ardchoille> Kobol: Why do you want envy?
[05:14] <pag> Vermux, locate --help  maybe?
[05:14] <ardchoille> man locate ?
[05:15] <Kobol> ardchoille: It was suggested for a problem I have O_o But ubotu is scaring me now :(
[05:15] <Vermux> how do I exit man?
[05:16] <ardchoille> Kobol: You don't need to install 3rd party scripts to do things. You just need to learn the proper way to do them.
[05:16] <ardchoille> Vermux: "q"
[05:16] <pag> Vermux, press "q"
[05:16] <Vermux> thanks
[05:17] <Vermux> locate and slocate are differ?
[05:17] <Kobol> ardchoille: Whenever I logout, shutdown, what have you, I get a black screen with a blinking cursor, after it gets all done as it were to shutdown...and...it is apparently a display error...and envy was suggested?
[05:18] <ardchoille> Kobol: You don't need envy to fix a display error
[05:18] <Kobol> ardchoille: If you know of a way to fix my problem, then please enlighten me, as I have no idea.
[05:18] <Vermux> pag: does locate and slocate do the same thing?
[05:18] <ardchoille> Kobol: So, you shutdown and the screen went black?
[05:18] <Kobol> ardchoille: Black, with a white blinking cursor, that does nothing, I've tried throwing commands at it, and I get nadda
[05:18] <ardchoille> Vermux:  slocate - Security Enhanced version of the GNU Locate
[05:19] <pag> Vermux, slocate checks permissions and doesn't show files you have no acces to
[05:19] <ardchoille> Vermux: locate is a symlink to slocate
[05:19] <ardchoille> Vermux: open a term and type:  file $(which locate)
[05:19] <Riddell> ** anyone running feisty?  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-358/ feisty main
[05:19] <frojnd> hello there
[05:19] <frojnd> Where can I get this part of gimp: http://shrani.si/f/3Z/SP/3rb7HAxc/gimp.png
[05:20] <BlueAidan_work> seems I have to restart hal to get my ipod recognized after plugging it in
[05:21] <Vermux> ardchoille: what do u mean by "open a term"?
[05:22] <ardchoille> frojnd: Open gimp, File > Prefs, Interface > Previews enable layer and channel previews ?
[05:22] <ardchoille> Vermux: Open a terminal emulator or alt+f2 and type in konsole
[05:23] <Vermux> pag: I c that -help and --help are the same
[05:24] <ardchoille> Kobol: Which video card do you have?
[05:24] <Vermux> ardchoille: what is symlink/
[05:24] <Vermux> ?
[05:24] <Kobol> ardchoille: nVidia GeForce 7600 GS
[05:24] <RedIsDead> hello
[05:25] <ardchoille> Vermux:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symlink
[05:25] <ardchoille> Kobol: And did you install nvidia drivers for that card?
[05:25] <tharun>  I have been trying to get Dasher ( http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ )  to work on Gutsy. I have tried compiling the source from the website, but configure keeps complaining about missing packages. After installing ~50 packages (incl. dependencies), it is now stuck on "checking for gnome_a11y... configure: error: Package requirements (bonobo-activation-2.0 libbonobo-2.0 ORBit-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 cspi-1.0 atk) were not met: No package
[05:25] <tharun> 'libgnomeui-2.0' found No package 'cspi-1.0' found" even though I have specified the flags --without-gnome --without-ally as mentioned in the INSTALL.Linux file. How can I get this to successfully build OR where can I get a pre-compiled version of Dasher 4 for KDE?
[05:26] <Kobol> ardchoille: Eh...No? Unless reconfiguring xorg does that :S
[05:26] <ardchoille> !info dasher gutsy
[05:26] <ubotu> dasher: A graphical predictive text input system. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.6.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 365 kB, installed size 1000 kB
[05:26] <ardchoille> Kobol: No, you need to install the nvidia drivers for your card
[05:26] <Kobol> ardchoille: I figured it was already good, since...I can see my screen and all :P
[05:26] <RedIsDead> is it normal that the theme of kubuntu gutsy seems very ugly compared to feisty ?
[05:26] <ardchoille> tharun: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1 but dasher is in the repos
[05:27] <ashfaq> Flash problem solved for firefox thanks Tell me how I will be able to change the xorg file!
[05:27] <ardchoille> Kobol: Wanna install the drivers?
[05:27] <Kobol> ardchoille: Yes, especially if it will fix that shutdown and startup problem :S
[05:28] <ashfaq> I have nvidiya settings for resolution cofig working
[05:28] <ardchoille> ashfaq: To edit the xorg.conf file: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:28] <Vermux> ardchoille: what was the command: file $(which locate)?
[05:28] <ardchoille> Kobol: Open a terminal, I'll help you get the drivers installed
[05:28] <ardchoille> Vermux: yes
[05:28] <Kobol> ardchoille: Done, and thank you :)
[05:29] <Vermux> ardchoille: what the purpose of it?
[05:29] <ardchoille> Vermux: That ttells you what type of file /usr/bin/locate is
[05:29] <ardchoille> Kobol: Type this in the terminal and see if it's installed: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[05:30] <ashfaq> ardchoille: K desu kate pl help me understand, I am new to linux as whole
[05:30] <ashfaq> ardchoille: Just switched over from vista to ubuntu than kubuntu last night!
[05:30] <Kobol> ardchoille: That it is.
[05:31] <Vermux> ardchoille: so locate shows unauthorized files?
[05:31] <tharun> ardchoille: Thanks, but I have been trying to install the newer version of Dasher: Version 4.6.1 vs. 4.6.0 which is in the repos. Guess I will install the repo package now, as it is much less messy that way. :)
[05:31] <atlfalcons866> if i install kde4 will it erase my current kde
[05:31] <Bucatoamano> hi hey i have made this :  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=573890 for the wiki ? someone can do it?
[05:32] <ardchoille> ashfaq: Then the first thing I would recommend you do it:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[05:33] <ashfaq> ardchoille: I will copy and paste this command in terminal help me execute the process, I need a resolution of 1440x900
[05:33] <ardchoille> Kobol: Next step:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:33] <ardchoille> ashfaq: That last command I gave you makes a backup of that file in case you mess up :)
[05:34] <Vermux> ardchoille: whats the difference between -help and --help?
[05:34] <ashfaq> ardchoille:I had installed envy in Ubuntu, it shows in kde but after every boot I had to adjust the settings as the previous file is not being cchanged for you info
[05:34] <ardchoille> Vermux: no idea. Most apps do -h or --help  for help
[05:34] <ardchoille> ashfaq: Yes, envy is not a good idea
[05:35] <ardchoille> !envy | ashfaq
[05:35] <ubotu> ashfaq: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[05:35] <Kobol> ardchoille: Alright, it's done downloading and installing.
[05:35] <ardchoille> Kobol: Next step:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:35] <Kobol> ardchoille: Done
[05:36] <Alwarro> hola
[05:36] <Alwarro> someone speack spanish?
[05:36] <Vermux> ardchoille: with locate, can I c files that I dont have access to?
[05:36] <ardchoille> Kobol: Next step:  you might wanna run through the xorg config and remember to select "nvidia" instead of "nv" for the driver. The config command is:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:37] <Alwarro> i have problems whit amarok :S
[05:37] <ardchoille> Kobol: That will set up xorg for your various hardware and drivers
[05:37] <ardchoille> !es | Alwarro
[05:37] <ubotu> Alwarro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:37] <Alwarro> :D
[05:37] <Alwarro> Tnx :P
[05:38] <hero> is there an applet for the kicker that allows you to just type in commands (e.g. "gg kubuntu")
[05:38] <hero> ?
[05:38] <Kobol> ardchoille: Attempt monitor autodetection?
[05:39] <ardchoille> yes
[05:39] <Kobol> ardchoille: Alright
[05:39] <ashfaq> ardchoille The nvidia settings installed though envy gives me the right resolution required, but the only problem is the file this software could not write to the default file
[05:39] <ardchoille> ashfaq: I can't help you with envy because I feel envy is not safe.
[05:40] <Kobol> ardchoille: Alright, I'm done with the xorg reconfigure.
[05:40] <Vermux> ardchoille: when I type man locate, it gives "slocate" explanation and not "locate"
[05:40] <ardchoille> Kobol: You have the nvidia drivers installed already, what you're doing now is just setting up xorg.
[05:40] <Kobol> ardchoille: Okay, well I finished it.
[05:41] <ashfaq> ardchoille envy has given me the nvidia settings option, and I am able to correct the resolution required by me, the only problem is it is not able to write the new settings to xorg. default, so on every boot I had to do the settings
[05:41] <ardchoille> Kobol: Now restart xorg, but remember that will close any apps you have open. Probably best to log out and choose "restart x" from the options menu. You should see the nvidia logo after that, then all done :)
[05:41] <ardchoille> ashfaq: ok
[05:41] <Alwarro> uhmm, in #kubuntu-es, nobody helpme =(
[05:42] <ashfaq> ardchoille: tell me and guide me to get required settings I will get rid of envy
[05:42] <Kobol> ardchoille: Ok, so...We're assuming that the little empty blinking cursor wont be there this time?
[05:42] <ardchoille> Kobol:  For future reference: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:42] <ardchoille> Kobol: I'm assuming so, yes
[05:42] <Kobol> ardchoille: Alright, I'll close my applications and restart then. Be right back
[05:43] <ardchoille> ashfaq: Do you already have the nvidia drivers installed?
[05:43] <Vermux> why when Im typing man locate, it gives "slocate" explanation and not "locate" ?
[05:43] <ardchoille> Vermux: I told yo because locate is a symlink to slocate
[05:44] <RivaeAerya> is it safe to install KDE4 on a computer that NEEDS to be functional all the time and has Kubuntu Gutsy? and how can i remove it after i install it? is there any other way to try it out?
[05:44] <ardchoille> RivaeAerya: kde4 is barely usable
[05:44] <WaltzingAlong> RivaeAerya: you could install it, but still use kde 3.5.8
[05:44] <ardchoille> lol
[05:44] <ashfaq> ardchoille: Yes in Ubuntu three days back I installed envy it got the latest drivers and asked me to reboot, but on rebootin nothing happened, finally due to other problems as well I switched to kde and the software envy is still shown its utility to set the config is working but not saved!
[05:45] <RivaeAerya> hmm, and if i just want to try it out for a moment, and not get it on my pc?
[05:45] <WaltzingAlong> !envy
[05:45] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[05:45] <WaltzingAlong> RivaeAerya: you could get the opensuse virtual machine image with kde4
[05:45] <RivaeAerya> WaltzingAlong: where to get?
[05:46] <ashfaq> nvidia is already installed yes!ardchoille:
[05:46] <ardchoille> ashfaq: Which nvidia driver did it install and did it run "nvidia-xconfig" ?
[05:46] <WaltzingAlong> RivaeAerya: ask the google gods for replies to a query of kde 4 live cd
[05:46] <Vermux> ardchoille: then, why there is need for the two of them if they r the same?
[05:46] <haffi> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu Gutsy rc-1, is there any way to enable compiz-fusion from a GUI? I have installed the nVidia drivers needed.
[05:46] <WaltzingAlong> RivaeAerya: then perhaps google responds with  something such as http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
[05:46] <ardchoille> Vermux: They aren't the same, one is a symlink and one is an app
[05:46] <ashfaq> Yes it did run but ubuntu did not perhaps allowed it to do the changes
[05:46] <ardchoille> haffi: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[05:46] <WaltzingAlong> haffi: kmenu / settings /advanced desktop settings
[05:47] <ashfaq> ardchoille: Tell me how to check if the drivers for invidia are installed and to find the version
[05:47] <ardchoille> ashfaq: Sounds like all you need to do is setup xorg (needs root privs) and it should be done.
[05:48] <ashfaq> Tell me that how to right now we will get id done ardchoille:
[05:48] <haffi> WaltzingAlong: I haven't got a settings menu in Kmenu... I have system settings, but there's nothing important to see there
[05:48] <ardchoille> ashfaq:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:48] <Vermux> ardchoille: both of the commands give the same result, no?!
[05:48] <WaltzingAlong> haffi: otherwise the name of the program command is ccsm
[05:48] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | haffi
[05:48] <ubotu> haffi: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[05:49] <haffi> ok, thanks for the help
[05:49] <haffi> I'll go to #ubuntu+1
[05:49] <ardchoille> Vermux: runing "locate" runs "slocate" since "locate" is just a symlink.
[05:49] <ashfaq> ardchoille: That I had done a number of times in ubuntu but the maximum resolution I could get is 1024x768
[05:50] <WaltzingAlong> !fixres
[05:50] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:50] <ardchoille> ashfaq: This is why envy is bad, it might have messed things up
[05:51] <ardchoille> Kobol: How is it doing?
[05:51] <angelus> guys ,what driver should i install for a GeForce 8400GS ? nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?
[05:51] <ashfaq> ardchoille:Before installin envy I had tried that and after too, only in kde I got to see the nvidia settings option in system below envy, and I could change the resolution atleast for a session
[05:52] <Kobol> ardchoille: Same thing :S Only, I made a thread about this on the Kubuntu support forums, and a poster mentioned that next time I encounter that screen to attempt alt+F1 to see if I could get a prompt...Which I did! :) I was able to login with just the command prompt, and I did sudo shutdown now but I encountered another problem :( When I did that, it never shutdown, it got...stuck? :P For lack of a better term.
[05:52] <WaltzingAlong> angelus: nvidia-glx is provided by either nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy
[05:52] <ashfaq> Help me fix this file to replace the original in backup or change the one in default with the new settings
[05:52] <ardchoille> angelus: That card isn't even listed on nvidia's site: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[05:53] <ardchoille> Kobol: Ah, that isn't due to the video drivers, tho.
[05:53] <Vermux> ardchoille: in which case should I run slocate ? if locate runs slocate, why is the need for both of them?
[05:53] <angelus> ardchoille: its still new, but the binary driver supports it
[05:54] <ardchoille> Vermux: No idea, ask the devs. Maybe they kept "locate" because people who have been using Linux for years are used to locate.
[05:54] <Kobol> ardchoille: Then why is it crashing...or...whatever it's doing? I certainly don't want to have to use the reboot switch every time I need to shutdown in Linux :P
[05:54] <ardchoille> Kobol: I don't know :(
[05:54] <Kobol> ardchoille: Darn :(
[05:54] <fjpm> hi guy i wanna know if someone here know how to configure an nvidia audio driver mcp51
[05:55] <ardchoille> Kobol: But I do know that you now have the correct nvidia drivers installed and configured for your card :)
[05:55] <Hamra> where do i find wmv codecs for kaffeine k3b or amarok, anyone of these programs?
[05:55] <Kobol> ardchoille: Well good O_O Does this help? When I did alt+F1 there was some kind of like...error report at the top of the screen, saying it couldn't reload an image file? Or some such?
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> !w32codecs
[05:55] <WaltzingAlong> !w32codecs
[05:55] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: maybe the bootsplash..
[05:56] <ardchoille> !restrictedformats | Hamra Also see:
[05:56] <ubotu> Hamra Also see:: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:56] <Kobol> ardchoille:
[05:56] <Kobol> oops :P
[05:56] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: I do have a custom bootsplash, but...I had this problem with the LiveCD and such...So...I'm not sure it's that, but I can try disabling it?
[05:57] <Hamra> thank you all for your help
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: if it happened on the liveCD that probably won't help.
[05:57] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: If memory serves it did :S
[05:57] <ardchoille> Kobol: Custom bootsplash? Do you shutodwn that often?
[05:58] <Kobol> ardchoille: Maybe I'm not clear, not really a bootsplash, so much as just a login splash? Do you know what I mean?
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: try pastebining an old /var/log/messages* like not the one for this current boot, but for the previous.
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: oh a custom login screen?
[05:58] <fjpm> hi guy i wanna know if someone here know how to configure an nvidia audio driver mcp51
[05:59] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: No :S Heh, let me think, you know under System Preferences, where it says "Splash"? I have a custom one of those I downloaded from KDE-Look.org.
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> ah... no thats something different.
[06:00] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: And...what would be the older one?
[06:00] <ashfaq> How do I restart x server help
[06:00] <nosrednaekim>  /var/log/messages.1
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> ashfaq: ctrl+alt+bckspace
[06:00] <ardchoille> Kobol:  /var/log/messages.1.gz  ?
[06:01] <nosrednaekim> whoops.... /var/log/messages.0
[06:01] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: I have a .0 but not a .1
[06:01] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: Ah ok
[06:02] <ardchoille> wow, I was busy there for a while, lol
[06:02] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40831/
[06:02] <smarter> Hi
[06:03] <Kobol> !hi
[06:03] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:03] <smarter> I've made a patch to fix utf-8 problems with adept(see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/102753 )
[06:03] <schiste> Hey.
[06:03] <schiste> Is there any way to perform a "check" on the computer
[06:03] <smarter> can someone please review it for inclusion in gutsy?
[06:03] <schiste> To see if there's any package in conflicts/missing etc...
[06:04] <ardchoille> Kobol: Is this a laptop?
[06:04] <Kobol> ardchoille: No O_o Built this computer myself.
[06:04] <smarter> schiste: sudo apt-get install -f
[06:04] <schiste> ha thanks :)
[06:04] <ardchoille> 64bit?
[06:04] <Kobol> ardchoille: Nope
[06:04] <pag> smarter, you might want to ask in #kubuntu-devel
[06:04] <jpatrick> smarter: #kubuntu-devel and too late!
[06:04] <nosrednaekim> hmm this doesn't show the shutdown part..
[06:04] <Kobol> ardchoille: It has the ability I believe, but I never understood the difference so...I never went there :S
[06:05] <smarter> jpatrick: are you sure?
[06:05] <ardchoille> Kobol: lol
[06:05] <jpatrick> smarter: string freeze
[06:05] <nosrednaekim> smarter: unless its a serious bug, yes
[06:06] <smarter> And I've also found a dpkg/adept bug that looks pretty serious but without fix: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/152396
[06:06] <cash> hi
[06:06] <cash> help me please - how to remount sdrom to executive mode?
[06:06] <jpatrick> smarter: please take the devel talk to #kubuntu-devel
[06:06] <jpatrick> :)
[06:07] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: not sure where the shutdown log would be..
[06:07] <nosrednaekim> cash: do you mean cdrom?
[06:07] <Kobol> ardchoille: *Shrug* at the time, I only used Windows, and I'd heard a lot of stuff not working...So I didn't go there :P
[06:07] <cash> nosrednaekim yes
[06:08] <cash> nosrednaekim I need to remount cdrom to executive ,for installation some soft
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> cash: ok yeah... there is a way. just a sec
[06:08] <carlos_> Hi, my first time using konversation
[06:08] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: Well, I don't know :(
[06:09] <ardchoille> Kobol: You were smart, lots of stuff still doesn't work.
[06:09] <ardchoille> hi carlos_
[06:10] <nosrednaekim> cash: unmount it first (safely remove)
[06:10] <Kobol> ardchoille: So I heard :S And see, I never had like...any of these problems with dapper, so I used to only keep Windows around for gaming. And if WoW didn't run I'd be sad :(
[06:10] <cash> nosrednaekim ok done
[06:10] <carlos_> hi ardchoille, how are you?
[06:10] <nosrednaekim> cash: and then run the command "sudo mount exec /dev/cdrom /mnt"
[06:11] <Kobol> ardchoille: But I used Linux for lots of work, office stuff mostly.
[06:11] <cash> nosrednaekim ojk trying
[06:12] <Kobol> ardchoille: Now I have all this drama :( lol
[06:12] <[4N93L] > wow O_O
[06:12] <Hamra> !info WoW
[06:12] <ubotu> Package wow does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:12] <ardchoille> lol
[06:12] <[4N93L] > Hamra: WoW is a game. =] 
[06:12] <Hamra> !WoW
[06:12] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:12] <Kobol> WoW is World of Warcraft lol
[06:12] <Hamra> ah, ok
[06:12] <Kobol> WaltzingAlong: I'd heard about it, never tried it myself, how does it work for you?
[06:13] <WaltzingAlong> has worked well
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> cash: did that work?
[06:14] <Kobol> WaltzingAlong: Ah, see, I heard people saying it was bad performance, so...I didn't even want to attempt it :(
[06:14] <pag> !limewire | [4N93L] 
[06:14] <ubotu> [4N93L] : limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> cash: you'll have to run the exectutable as root too
[06:14] <[4N93L] > pag : Gracias. =] 
[06:14] <WaltzingAlong> Kobol: i have had better performance with it actually through WINE than directly on windows  (be sure to use opengl)
[06:14] <cash> nosrednaekim I understand already done ) thank U very much
[06:15] <nosrednaekim> cash: nP
[06:15] <tharun> How can I sort my installed packages by date? I installed a lot of packages (~50) using Adept to get something to work, but it was a dead end. I would like to remove these pakages, and I thought that the best way to do this would be by sorting them by install date. Is there any way to do this?
[06:15] <Kobol> WaltzingAlong: Interesting, well...If I can actually get my computer to bootup and shutdown like it should, I will check that out then.
[06:15] <nosrednaekim> tharun: if you installed them all at once, you can view the last dpkg run...
[06:15] <tharun> !info java
[06:15] <ubotu> Package java does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:16] <ardchoille> !info jre
[06:16] <ubotu> Package jre does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:16] <Kobol> !java
[06:16] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:16] <Kobol> That what you wanted?
[06:16] <tharun> nosrednaekim: I had to do several dpkg-runs...
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: do alt+f1 as soon as you start shutting down, it will show a log of what is happening,
[06:17] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: Ok...Well I obviously wont be able to copy and paste it anywhere lol
[06:17] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: So is there anything I should look for?
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: yeah.. but see what the last thing itrun before it stalls.
[06:18] <pag> tharun, you might want to check /var/log/dpkg.log then.
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> and see if its unmounting your disks brefore it stalls
[06:18] <[4N93L] > !FrostWire
[06:18] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:18] <ardchoille> Kobol: And look for things like "fail" or "error"
[06:18] <Kobol> Ooo O_o Frostwire sounds cool...And I bet it has 99% less spyware too.
[06:18] <ardchoille> iirc, it's java
[06:19] <tharun> nosrednaekim: Also, I just went to Adept>View>Show Last Dpkg Run and it is empty
[06:19] <nosrednaekim> hmm
[06:19] <nosrednaekim> try pag's
[06:19] <tharun> !info pag's
[06:19] <ubotu> Package pags does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:19] <Kobol> nosrednaekim, ardchoille: I'm going to try restart, and see if I get anything from that, I'll check for stuff as it goes along.
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> ok see ya Kobol
[06:20] <Kobol> restarting* Yay for incorrect verb tense.
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> :)
[06:20] <Vermux> how do I open WMV files with kubuntu?
[06:21] <pag> hmm. repeating is "fun": " tharun, you might want to check /var/log/dpkg.log then."
[06:21] <WaltzingAlong> !info vlc | Vermux
[06:21] <ubotu> vermux: vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[06:21] <tharun> heh... thanks pag, I totally did not see your comment earlier
[06:21] <pag> tharun, heh. that happens :)
[06:23] <Hamra> wine was working fine, but now its not, when i tried to configure wine from system settings, the page didnt load and said something about a corrupt upgrade or old modules?
[06:23] <Kobol> >.>
[06:23] <Kobol> <,<
[06:24] <Kobol> That was new, no blinking cursor of doom...I wonder if that was because of what we did ardchoille, or from the ALT+F1. Oh and I got a <WARNING> Libhal failed to shutdown as the last bit, but it did actually shut down.
[06:25] <user__> i just installed kubuntu, put my motorola cellphone (act as gsm modem) via usb, detected as ttyACM0, configure the internet account using KPPP, and now i can chat here, how easy :P
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> user__: sweet :)
[06:26] <user__> but it seem that i cant browse using konqueror: "Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/."
[06:26] <[4N93L] > user__ : most of us were not that lucky. :)
[06:26] <pag> user__, if you don't use knetworkmanager, disable it.
[06:27] <pag> user__, my guess is that it causes that problem (at least it has done so numerous times before)
[06:27] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: Oh, I did get an error, it said <WARNING> Libhal (Or Lib-hal, can't remember if it was hyphenated.) failed to shutdown...That was the last bit, but it did actually shut down :)
[06:28] <nosrednaekim> ok..
[06:28] <nosrednaekim> maybe it was the F1
[06:28] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: Yeah...I dunno? Maybe?
[06:28] <user__> how to disable it pag?
[06:28] <nosrednaekim> try shutting down without it
[06:28] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: Alright, be right back again then
[06:28] <pag> user__, hmm... Alt+f2 -> killall knetworkmanager
[06:28] <nosrednaekim> user__: just kill it :)
[06:31] <user__> OMG, you're right! that was knetworkmanager!
[06:31] <Vermux> I cant open wmv file from gmail. any suggestions?
[06:31] <tmske> Hi, I've changed my boot partition and now I get "error no active partition" at boot, so no grub is shown, boot partition is on /dev/sda7 and boot is checked, does someone know what is wrong?
[06:31] <pag> Vermux, install w32codecs
[06:31] <Vermux> I installed vlc already but it doesn help
[06:31] <Vermux> it says the associated helper file doesnt exists
[06:31] <Kobol> Woot!
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: all working?
[06:32] <Vermux> pag: it says to change the association in preferences
[06:32] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: I can shutdown, without any drama! :) But the million dollar question is: Can I logout and back in again? :S
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> umm try it?
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> lol
[06:33] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: About to
[06:33] <pag> Vermux, afaik: "associated helper file" = codec (which you will get from package I mentioned earlier)
[06:34] <Vermux> pag: I searched Adept- it doesnt give any result
[06:34] <pag> Vermux, w32codecs are in !medibuntu (or !Seveas )
[06:35] <GuyFromHell> How do i tell kde which channel the volume buttons of my keyboard should work on
[06:35] <Kobol> !helpersnack | nosrednaekim
[06:35] <ubotu> nosrednaekim: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[06:35] <nosrednaekim> GuyFromHell: setthat channel as default
[06:35] <nosrednaekim> lol...
[06:35] <nosrednaekim> I LOVE that..
[06:35] <Kobol> :)
[06:35] <GuyFromHell> nosrednaekim: ... where?
[06:35] <pag> GuyFromHell, in kmix?
[06:36] <GuyFromHell> surely not right click kmix->select master channel, because i did that
[06:36] <nosrednaekim> GuyFromHell:oh.. ok
[06:36] <Vermux> pag: Im not doing something right. I searched for these files in adept but it doesnt return results
[06:36] <ardchoille> Kobol: Yay!
[06:36] <pag> Vermux, do you have either of those repos enabled?
[06:36] <ardchoille> Kobol: I believe installing the nvidia drivers definitely helped.
[06:37] <Kobol> ardchoille: It works! /cheer All is well...Except the fact that my numlock key doesn't start activated, but I can deal with that later lol
[06:37] <pag> Vermux, and umm.. are you running 64bit?
[06:37] <Kobol> ardchoille: Indeed >.> In fact...
[06:37] <Kobol> !helpersnack | ardchoille
[06:37] <ubotu> ardchoille: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[06:37] <ardchoille> !numlockx | Kobol
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about numlockx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <Vermux> pag: how do I enable them?
[06:37] <GuyFromHell> nosrednaekim: ... any suggestions then? since that didn't work apparently
[06:37] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: thats in system settgins somewhere
[06:37] <Vermux> pag: no, It is 32
[06:38] <pag> !medibuntu | Vermux
[06:38] <ubotu> Vermux: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[06:38] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: --> Kobol
[06:38] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: Oh I have it enabled in the system settings, unless it reset itself :P
[06:38] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: yes, but only for kde.. numlockx does it for all of x
[06:38] <ardchoille> Kobol: sudo apt-get install numlockx
[06:39] <Kobol> ardchoille: Yay, all done? O_o Do I need to configure it to turn it on, or is that the whole point of it? XD
[06:40] <ardchoille> Kobol: It does it automagically :)
[06:40] <Kobol> ardchoille: Winsauce! :)
[06:40] <ardchoille> That's the whole point :)
[06:40] <Kobol> ardchoille: Do you happen to use Kexi?
[06:40] <ardchoille> Kobol: I have it, but never used it
[06:41] <ardchoille> Kobol: Ah, ok, I use OO.o for that.. but kexi looks nice.
[06:41] <Vermux> pag: how do I quick add the repository?
[06:41] <Kobol> ardchoille: Oh :P Darn. I work on a private WoW server, and I'm trying to remotely get to the database from Linux (I use Navicat on Windows) and it's telling me it can't connect...when I have the right info in it :P
[06:42] <pag> Vermux, are you on Feisty?
[06:42] <Vermux> 7.0.4
[06:42] <Vermux> kde 3.5.7
[06:42] <pag> " sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list && wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update "
[06:42] <ardchoille> Vermux:  7.04  (year.month)
[06:43] <Vermux> how do I check that?
[06:43] <ardchoille> Vermux:  lsb_release -a
[06:43] <LogicalDash> How can I set up the KOrganizer reminder daemon so that it only gives reminders from one of my calendars?
[06:43] <ardchoille> Vermux:  lsb_release -a | grep Release
[06:44] <Vermux> ubuntu fiesty 7.04
[06:44] <Vermux> no lsb moduls are available
[06:44] <pag> Vermux, in that case copy the command I said couple mins ago in Konsole
[06:44] <deviance> !bootsplash
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <deviance> How do I cahnge the bootsplash screen?
[06:45] <Vermux> Type 'sudo' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:45] <pag> deviance, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto ?
[06:45] <Vermux> pag: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:46] <Kobol> deviance, I know you can download the themes at kde-look.org, and there is a "How To" on there.
[06:46] <deviance> Ah okay
[06:46] <deviance> Thnks
[06:46] <ardchoille> Vermux: The word "sudo" doesn't go in the sources.list file
[06:46] <pag> Vermux, whops. kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list -> navigate to line 36 -> remove sudo infront of it
[06:47] <Kobol> Hmm...
[06:47] <Kobol> !navicat
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about navicat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <Kobol> Oh well, worth a shot :(
[06:48] <Vermux> pag: did it. what now?
[06:48] <pag> Vermux, " sudo apt-get update "
[06:48] <ardchoille> Vermux: saved the file first?
[06:48] <Vermux> E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:48] <Vermux> yes
[06:49] <ardchoille> Vermux: The word "wget" doesn't go in the sources.list file
[06:49] <gnomefreak> Vermux: remove wget from that line all lines start with deb
[06:49] <ardchoille> Vermux: Can you pastebin your sources.list file?
[06:49] <ardchoille> hi gnomefreak
[06:49] <gnomefreak> hi ardchoille
[06:49] <ardchoille> [4N93L] : not at all
[06:49] <gnomefreak> [4N93L] : not reall just makew sure you read it carefully
[06:49] <Vermux> it should start with deb?
[06:50] <gnomefreak> as it may remove a package you want
[06:50] <gnomefreak> Vermux: yes
[06:50] <gnomefreak> example look at all the other ones
[06:50] <[4N93L] > i'm viewing new packages and downloading them through "aptitude".
[06:50] <[4N93L] > :|
[06:51] <Vermux> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[06:51] <nosrednaekim> [4N93L] : aptitute is fine
[06:51] <Kobol> !Kexi
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kexi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <[4N93L] > nosrednaekim: Thanx. =] 
[06:52] <pag> Vermux, pastebin your sources.list please ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )
[06:52] <Kobol> rawr
[06:52] <Vermux> I only wanted to open a small wmv file and I have to deal with all these things
[06:52] <Kobol> Anyone handle Databases? and know of any free Linux database administration tools? I need it to handle MySQL.
[06:53] <ForgeAus> kobol yeah I think theres some you can find in Adept... depending on your repositories
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> !mySQL
[06:53] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:54] <Vermux> from where?
[06:54] <dipesh> Kobol: tora and mysqladmin are quit cool tools to administrate mysql db's
[06:55] <Vermux> pag: where is that file?
[06:55] <pag> Vermux, kate /etc/apt/sources.list opens it in read-only mode
[06:55] <Macris> has anybody run in to trouble upgrading to gutsy while xgl and fglrx are allready installed?
[06:56] <emilsedgh> knoda is so nice for mysql administration
[06:56] <Kobol> dipesh: Oh, perfect! Thank you :)
[06:56] <lup0> Macris: what kind of trouble? I had compiz complaining in graphical installation, and had to finish in console
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> Macris: how did you install each?
[06:57] <Vermux> pag: ok...?
[06:57] <Macris> nosrednaekim: what do u mean by aptitude from the ubuntu repos... and i followed the upgrade guide from the website
[06:57] <dipesh> pag: probably cause your user has no write-access... try something like alt+f2 and put something like "kdesu -u root kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list" in there... (that executes kwrite as user "root")
[06:58] <pag> dipesh, the task is only to copy contens - no need to write yet ;)
[06:58] <dipesh> oh, ok :)
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> Macris: ah ok...if you installed wither the drivers or compiz from external repositories, things wouldn't work so well
[06:58] <Macris> lup0: nosrednaekim the thing was, that when i got the upgrade done and booted up, i got no image to login... ie no graphix from kdm
[06:59] <lup0> Macris: did the upgrade finish ok?
[06:59] <Vermux> pag: I copied and paste
[06:59] <pag> Vermux, could you also give the link to that paste?
[06:59] <Macris> lup0: well it crashed to hpa tftpd package and i had to use dpkg --configure -a to finish
[07:00] <lup0> Macris: ok, mine worked after having to do that
[07:00] <Macris> but i got every package upgraded from the gutsy repos
[07:00] <Vermux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40835/
[07:00] <lup0> Macris: and you've checked the rest with some update and dist-upgrade?
[07:00] <Macris> eventually i had to boot up in live distro and chroot to change xorg.conf to use ati drivers
[07:00] <Macris> lup0:
[07:00] <Macris> yeah
[07:00] <Kobol> Erk
[07:00] <Kobol> I must have the connection info wrong.
[07:01] <Macris> now after setting ati drivers, i got x running... but it was so slugish that i havent seen in a long time... reason XGL running without fglrx.
[07:02] <Macris> for some reason xgl was run automaticly and not with my special session i made before
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> Macris: ah right! xgl gets enabled by default in gutsy if its installed
[07:02] <Macris> yep
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> Macris: I find it rather annyoing.
[07:02] <Vermux> pag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40835/
[07:02] <pag> Vermux, now open the sources.list with " kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list " and copy this ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40836/ ) over your previous version
[07:02] <Macris> yeah, without compiz its too slow to use and u cant run compiz without it
[07:03] <Macris> compiz has some bugs still and i dont want to use it all the time
[07:03] <Macris> but what is wrong with fglrx???
[07:03] <nosrednaekim> Macris: do you have it installed?
[07:04] <Macris> nosrednaekim: not now, havent got the guts to try it yet... but i will... i read somewhere that restricked drivers need to be reinstalled before they operate properly
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> there is a new restricted-manager in gutsy which makes it really easy
[07:05] <Macris> yeah i noticed... maybe thats why it does not work when it is allready installed... have to try it soon
[07:05] <Vermux> pag: done
[07:06] <kewr_> Hello!
[07:06] <Vermux> ?
[07:06] <pag> Vermux, next thing: " wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update "
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> hey kewr_
[07:07] <serkan> slm
[07:07] <Vermux> pag: it doesnt do anything
[07:07] <serkan> hi friends
[07:07] <Macris> well, though u guys should know, that i suggest to remove xgl and fglrx before upgrading just to be safe.
[07:07] <pag> Vermux, hmm.. at all?
[07:08] <Vermux> pag: ok, it did
[07:08] <kewr_> Hello!
[07:08] <Vermux> I paste with the " sign
[07:08] <kewr_> Ohh, sorry.
[07:09] <Vermux> pag: now it should work?
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> Macris: eh... I can't wait for the new fglrx drivers.
[07:09] <pag> Vermux, I'd guess... pastebin the output - it'll help me to tell more preciselly
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> Macris: AIGLX? better performance? ahh...
[07:10] <Macris> nosrednaekim: AIGLX going to be supported by fglrx?
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> Macris: next release, sometime this month.
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> =)
[07:10] <Vermux> pag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40840/
[07:10] <Macris> that is going to make things so much easier :-D
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> indeed!
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> performance is upto 20x faster too.
[07:11] <Macris> nice
[07:11] <kewr_> I should go to the wc.
[07:11] <pag> Vermux, yup. should work now. try " sudo apt-get install w32codecs "
[07:12] <lup0> nosrednaekim: is it going to work with nvidia?
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> Macris: they released a driver for the highend cards last month that unofficially supports most older ones as well.
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> lup0: no.
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> Macris: but don't go get it ;)
[07:13] <Macris> yeah not with my official laptop
[07:14] <gennaro> buona sera
[07:14] <Macris> i got x600... hope it can run kde4 with some nice efects layter this year
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> yeah...AIGLX is coming just in time :)
[07:15] <gennaro> i need help
[07:15] <kewr_> Why?
[07:15] <Vermux> pag:  still cant c the movie
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> gennaro: whats the problem?
[07:15] <Vermux> pag: I did open with VLC
[07:15] <pag> Vermux, did the package got installed?
[07:15] <lup0> nosrednaekim: hmm, but will my laptop's integrated intel chip work well with it?
[07:15] <Vermux> it did
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> lup0: with what?
[07:15] <winbond> i need a icon pack for dolphin, and a login screen replacement, can someone give me some links?
[07:16] <coreymon77> !ask | gennaro
[07:16] <Kobol> winbond, kde-look.org
[07:16] <ubotu> gennaro: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:16] <pag> Vermux, hmm.. try opening it with ie. Kaffeine
[07:16] <lup0> nosrednaekim: aiglx
[07:16] <nosrednaekim> lup0: oh! yeah...it should, as well as nvidia nd older ATI'ssuported by the open drivers
[07:17] <gennaro> i've installed kabuntu on a sata hd. I've 2 hd in hardware raid 0 (promise fastTrack) with XP, how i can see this hd (raid 0) on kabuntu?
[07:17] <Vermux> pag: I can hear but cant c anything
[07:17] <Kobol> I think our SQL server hates Linux O_o
[07:17] <lup0> nosrednaekim: where is this 20x performance difference happening?
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> lup0: 3d games.
[07:17] <winbond> Kobol, i know about that one, but all the icon packs that i have tried dont work with dolphin
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> !raid | gennaro
[07:17] <gennaro> !raid
[07:17] <ubotu> gennaro: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:17] <Kobol> I can connect just dandy on Navicat, but here it always says connectioned denied.
[07:17] <Kobol> Winbond, Hmm :S Dunno what to tell you then mate?
[07:18] <Vermux> Im installing some updates with aadept
[07:18] <pag> Vermux, you could also try mplayer - if it won't work either, then I'm out of ideas
[07:19] <deviance> !Qtemu
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtemu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <Vermux> pag: does kubuntu have mplayer?
[07:19] <coreymon77> ya
[07:19] <coreymon77> mplayer
[07:19] <coreymon77> its on apt
[07:19] <pag> Vermux, in repos - yes, by default - no.
[07:20] <pag> !info mplayer | Vermux
[07:20] <ubotu> vermux: mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9.1 (feisty), package size 3967 kB, installed size 10004 kB
[07:21] <ismael> Hi. I'm trying to resize ntfs but ntfsresize says it cannot resize because the feature is not implemented. What can I do_
[07:21] <ismael> ?
[07:21] <tharun> !info AIGLX
[07:21] <ubotu> Package aiglx does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:21] <lup0> !info ntfs-3g
[07:21] <pag> !aiglx | tharun
[07:21] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[07:21] <ubotu> tharun: AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[07:22] <tharun> !xgl
[07:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:23] <tharun> thanks pag, what is the difference between XGL and AIGLX?
[07:23] <deviance> Anyone here use quem?
[07:23] <ScorpKing> deviance: what's that?
[07:24] <deviance> !quem
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quem - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <deviance> !info quem | ScorpKing
[07:24] <ubotu> scorpking: Package quem does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:24] <pag> tharun, iirc XGL requires a special X server, while aixgl runs on-top of existing one
[07:24] <ScorpKing> lol
[07:24] <deviance> Bugger
[07:24] <jdong> tharun: Xgl is considered a "hack" while AIGLX is considered the "right way of doing it" -- essentially Xgl is a fake X server, a full-screen window drawn via OpenGL and all the 3D stuff is done inside that fake server, while AIGLX is a modification to the existing X server to allow it to do 3D effects
[07:24] <deviance> !info qemu | ScorpKing
[07:24] <ScorpKing> ah
[07:24] <deviance> !qemu
[07:24] <ScorpKing> i know it. :D
[07:24] <ubotu> scorpking: qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3465 kB, installed size 9460 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[07:24] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:25] <jdong> tharun: that was a really technically inaccurate description and I'm sure some X devs just died inside
[07:25] <Vermux> it cannot be! all I wanted to do is to play wmv file
[07:25] <ScorpKing> !codecs
[07:26] <pag> Vermux, that's why I prefer open formats :) they do work, what can't be said about .wm*'s
[07:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:27] <ScorpKing> Vermux: you need the w32codecs package
[07:28] <Vermux> how do I check if I have it or not?
[07:28] <pag> apt-cache policy w32codecs
[07:28] <llutz> apt-cache policy w32codecs
[07:28] <ScorpKing> deviance: what's wrong with qemu?
[07:29] <deviance> Nothing
[07:29] <ScorpKing> oh
[07:29] <deviance> I was wondering if its easy to install Oes
[07:29] <ScorpKing> virtualbox is better
[07:29] <deviance> Really?
[07:30] <ScorpKing> yes. there is also vmware
[07:30] <dipesh> Vermux: and if you have a 64bit system w64codecs ;)
[07:31] <ScorpKing> qemu is nice to test kernels and linux distros. it won't run xp
[07:31] <nosrednaekim> yeah... Vbox is definately better
[07:31] <Vermux> w32codecs:
[07:31] <Vermux>   Installed: 20061022-0medibuntu1+build1
[07:31] <Vermux>   Candidate: 20061022-0medibuntu1+build1
[07:31] <Vermux>   Version table:
[07:31] <Vermux>  *** 20061022-0medibuntu1+build1 0
[07:31] <Vermux>         500 http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty/non-free Packages
[07:31] <Vermux>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[07:32] <Zamber> Can anyone help me? Image preview is not working on my kubuntu ;/. Everywhere. kFlickr, konqueror, GwenView. In Gwen no images are recognised ;/ a little preview of what is happening: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8123/kdenoimgei0.jpg I googled but I can't find nothing relevant.
[07:32] <Vermux> dipesh: how do I check if the computer is 32 or 64?
[07:32] <deviance> If I have an ISO whats better to run this VirtualBox or Qemu
[07:32] <ScorpKing> a lot of guys have problems with dns when using dailup connections or connections that authenticate from the box, like some adsl routers. i think i found the problem. :D
[07:32] <xr> hi
[07:33] <pag> Vermux, uname -m
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> Zamber: do you have image previews turned on in konqueror?
[07:33] <lup0> nosrednaekim: how can I get aiglx acting?
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> lup0: what graphics card do you have?
[07:33] <dipesh> Vermux: e.g. with "sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep model"
[07:33] <Zamber> nosrednaekim naturally
[07:33] <ScorpKing> there is /etc/ppp/resolve.conf stores dns for dailup connections.
[07:33] <lup0> nosrednaekim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy <- This one didn't do anything
[07:33] <Vermux> i686
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> Zamber: hum
[07:33] <Kobol> :( Was just trying to play some music off of my Windows HD, opened an MP3 in Amarok, and it asks to "Install MP3 support" and then crashes :P
[07:34] <lup0> nosrednaekim: got an i810 compatible intel graphics chip
[07:34] <Zamber> nosrednaekim I managed to take this issue down a couple of times
[07:34] <nosrednaekim> lup0: its already enabled then.
[07:34] <lup0> nosrednaekim: where do I set it on?
[07:34] <nosrednaekim> Zamber: you mean you have fixed it b4?
[07:34] <deviance> nosrednaekim & ScorpKing : If I have an ISO whats better to run this VirtualBox or Qemu
[07:34] <Zamber> nosrednaekim it looks like there is some lib missing
[07:34] <nosrednaekim> lup0: it is on by default
[07:34] <pag> Kobol, enable !multiverse and then install "libxine-extracodecs" package
[07:34] <Zamber> nosrednaekim no, I just tried to ;)
[07:34] <lup0> nosrednaekim: how can I see some action?
[07:35] <ScorpKing> Kobol: run sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[07:35] <nosrednaekim> Zamber: try running dophin from the terminal..... and see if there are any errors
[07:35] <nosrednaekim> Zamber: the command is "d3lphin" BTW
[07:35] <nosrednaekim> lup0: install beryl
[07:35] <nosrednaekim> !beryl | lup0
[07:35] <Vermux> dipesh: model 10
[07:35] <deviance> Compiz fusion is wayy better :P
[07:35] <ubotu> lup0: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged.  Help in #ubuntu-effects - see also !compiz
[07:36] <lup0> !compiz
[07:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:36] <Vermux> dipesh: 1000 esther
[07:36] <ScorpKing> deviance: what OS is in the iso?
[07:36] <lup0> !compiz-fusion
[07:36] <nosrednaekim> this is fiesty...compiz-fusion isn't in the repositories yet..
[07:36] <dipesh> Vermux: or just try the "uname -m" like suggested by pag :)
[07:36] <deviance> ScorpKing: Ubuntu 7.10 RC and a few other linux distros
[07:37] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: And it never will be, unless it ends up in backports, but doubtfull
[07:37] <ScorpKing> you can use qemu for that but i suggest you look at virualbox some time.
[07:37] <Vermux> dipesh:i686
[07:37] <Zamber> nosrednaekim a list of:
[07:37] <Zamber> d3lphin: WARNING: Pixmap not found for mimetype application/x-crossover-jpg
[07:37] <Zamber> d3lphin: WARNING: Pixmap not found for mimetype application/x-crossover-png
[07:37] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: then why is that ubnotu reccomending fusion? getting ready for gutsy?
[07:37] <dipesh> Vermux: so, 32bit... sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[07:37] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Probably
[07:37] <nosrednaekim> Zamber: odd.... file a bug.
[07:38] <Vermux> it is installed
[07:38] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Once a release has been made, usually the only things that get added to the repos are bugfixes and security updates. New apps don't end up there after release.
[07:38] <Kobol> pag, ScorpKing: Thanks you two :)
[07:38] <whkapper> yo
[07:38] <ScorpKing> np :D
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: yeah..I know.
[07:38] <dipesh> Vermux: and xine does not play the wmv file?
[07:39] <ScorpKing> hiya whkapper
[07:39] <whkapper> yo wassup
[07:39] <Vermux> dipesh: what is xine?
[07:39] <whkapper> do you know how to lock a ubuntu workstation
[07:40] <ScorpKing> heh. i just close my laptop screen. :D
[07:40] <ardchoille> whkapper: ctrl+alt+l
[07:40] <whkapper> nope, doesn't do n e thing
[07:40] <whkapper> im using a terminal at school
[07:40] <dipesh> Vermux: eh, or kmplayer... well, xine, mplayer and vlc are the 3 major players... kmplayer as well as totem are just frontends for them
[07:40] <Zamber> nosrednaekim don't think so ;) mu ubu was upgraded 6.10 -> 7.04 -> 7.10, the image issue appeared recently when I was still on 7.04. By the time I had gnome, kde and fluxbox installed a couple of times ;) (most of the time - at the same time ;P).
[07:51] <ardchoille> whkapper: Then they removed that key combo
[07:51] <nosrednaekim> Zamber: huh..
[07:51] <ScorpKing> whkapper: it should be in the menu
[07:51] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: He's on a terminal at school, they likely customised it
[07:51] <ScorpKing> lol
[07:51] <tharun> I have been trying to use Dasher 4.6.0, and it crashes every time I try to change the language. Anyone know where I can get more help on this?
[07:51] <whkapper> just checked the kb shortcuts, its ctrl-shift-L, but when i press it i get "Couldn't execute command: xscreensaver-command -lock"
[07:51] <ardchoille> tharun: You probably won't get much help here since you installed a vers that wasn't in the repos.. which could be why you're having trouble
[07:51] <Vermux> dipesh: I searched for xine in adept- dont c it in the list
[07:51] <ardchoille> !info xine
[07:51] <ubotu> Package xine does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:51] <ardchoille> !info xine-ui
[07:51] <ubotu> xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4+dfsg+cvs20061111-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1483 kB, installed size 3532 kB
[07:51] <dipesh> Vermux: "sudo apt-get install xine-ui"
[07:51] <dipesh> oh, to slow :)
[07:51] <ardchoille> Vermux: it's in universe
[07:51] <ScorpKing> lol. i need to cook and eat. :P
[07:51] <dipesh> ScorpKing: I guess most of us depend on that 8-)
[07:51] <Vermux> ok
[07:51] <Vermux> dipesh: I downloaded it, what now?
[07:51] <Kobol> Can someone tell me: If you delete a playlist in Amarok, does it delete the playlist file, or just remove the playlist from Amarok?
[07:51] <dipesh> Vermux: well, right-click on the wmv-file and choose "open with..."
[07:51] <Vermux> dipesh: ok, but I dont c it in the list
[07:51] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: I think it deletes the whole playlist file in .kde/share/apps/amarok/playlists
[07:51] <dipesh> Vermux: if the program isn't in the list then choose "other..." and put "xine" into the inputbox
[07:51] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: Oh that's fine, I just didn't want it to delete my playlist on WIndows O_o lol
[07:51] <dipesh> Vermux: "Open with..." => "Other..." I was meaning
[07:51] <nosrednaekim> Kobol: oh wait... you importted a playlist?
[07:51] <newsense07> whats the key combination to bring up xkill , i forget ?
[07:51] <Vermux> the computer now is slow and not responding, how do I close xine
[07:51] <Vermux> ?
[07:51] <kuhi> ps -u
[07:51] <kuhi> search for xine number
[07:51] <kuhi> the kill
[07:51] <whkapper> killall xine
[07:51] <kuhi> then kill*
[07:51] <dipesh> Vermux: to close xine press the "q" key (quit)... the "g"-key does btw toggle the ui
[07:51] <anulia> pipls help
[07:51] <anulia> i need help
[07:51] <dipesh> or just killall like outlined by whkapper above (what a rude way :)
[07:51] <whkapper> :P it works
[07:51] <dipesh> yeah :)
[07:51] <Kobol> nosrednaekim: it did it, either way I deleted it :P It's old anyway, all my playlists are now iTunes thanks to my iPod addiction O_o Those are old Winamp playlists it imported that I never deleted.
[08:16] (subramani/#kubuntu) how to setup kbfx?
[08:17] (ardchoille/#kubuntu) subramani: install it. then right-click on the panel and choose "add" then find kbfx in the menu and add it to the panel.
[08:17] <nosrednaekim> !kbfx
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <ardchoille> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.2~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[08:18] <tharun> So, anyone know what I could do to fix my problem with dasher? Or does anyone know an irc channel that could help further?
[08:18] <ardchoille> tharun: Doesn't the dasher in the repos work?
[08:18] <lokpest> Anybody here that knows when the Kubuntu bleeding edge KDE repository is going to have KDE3.5.8?
[08:19] <nosrednaekim> lokpest: you can get it from Riddell'sPPA
[08:19] <nosrednaekim> lokpest: but only for gutsy
[08:19] <ardchoille> lokpest: I doubt it'll ever be in the Feisty repos
[08:19] <lokpest> ok, will check it out friday then
[08:19] <subramani> ardchoille: thanks
[08:19] <ardchoille> yw
[08:20] <ardchoille> subramani: Be aware that kbfx eats a lot of cpu cycles.
[08:21] <lokpest> so when upadting to gutsy, its recomended to delete and redo the bleeding edge repro I guess
[08:21] <subramani> ardchoille: okie
[08:21] <ubuntu> ciao
[08:21] <ubuntu> ...
[08:21] <nosrednaekim> lokpest: yeah.
[08:21] <nosrednaekim> lokpest: erase all but the default ubuntu repositories
[08:22] <lokpest> ok :)
[08:22] <muzycales> hi guys could anybody can help me install opengroupware.org? the calendar?
[08:23] <muzycales> hi?
[08:24] <ardchoille> muzycales: http://opengroupware.org/en/install/ubuntu/index.html
[08:24] <muzycales> thanks
[08:25] <Vermux> how do I creates a file in the cmd?
[08:25] <ardchoille> muzycales: That's a bit outdated (Warty) I would recommend installing from source.
[08:25] <ardchoille> Vermux: touch /path/filename
[08:26] <Olgem_> touch me, fsck me, finger ---
[08:26] <tharun> ardchoille: Dasher 4.6.0 from the repos it crashes every time I try to change the language from the settings. Also (just noticed this), it gets stuck once it goes past a certain number of letters.
[08:26] <Vermux> ardchoille: the word path? or I give the path?
[08:26] <lokpest> kind of stupid question I guess, but....
[08:26] <lokpest> If I want the whole kde to be installed?
[08:26] <ardchoille> tharun: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[08:27] <lokpest> Its the kde package in adept?
[08:27] <ardchoille> lokpest: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:27] <muzycales> thanks ardchoille I'll try to install it from the source
[08:28] <lokpest> ardchoille: I have kubuntu and thus kubuntu-desktop
[08:28] <muzycales> I'll let u knwo if I'll get any problem installing
[08:28] <tharun> ardchoille: k... will try there, thank you for being patient with me :)
[08:28] <ardchoille> muzycales: Good luck, that suite looks rather large
[08:28] <ardchoille> tharun: np :)
[08:28] <lokpest> I thougt there was some package that Istalled all kde apps
[08:28] <ardchoille> lokpest: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:28] <ardchoille> :)
[08:28] <Vermux> ardchoille: do I have to give the full path every time?
[08:28] <ardchoille> Vermux: Only if you want to create the file in a different directory than the one you're currently in
[08:29] <ardchoille> Vermux: Unless you have lib-read-my-mind.so.0 installed ;)
[08:29] <Vermux> ardchoille: but I created a file and it created it in the root instead of the current location
[08:29] <lokpest> ardchoille: I have kubuntu-desktop installed
[08:30] <lokpest> but I want to Install all kde apps
[08:30] <ardchoille> lokpest: Then you have kde installed, unless you uninstalled parts of it that took out deps
[08:30] <muzycales> Ok so I got my file and for debian (I'm using ubuntu 7.0.4) but I get this error message Error: dependency is not satisfiable: libopengroupware.org-db-project5.3 so what should I do?
[08:30] <ardchoille> muzycales: don't use debian packages in ubuntu. Not only is it not safe, it'll lead you into dependency hell
[08:31] <lokpest> ardchoille: yes I have kde installed
[08:31] <ardchoille> Vermux: it created the file in /root (root's home directory)?
[08:31] <lokpest> but I want all kde apps, krita, koffice etc
[08:32] <muzycales> ardchoille what do u recomand me to use instead?
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> lokpest: install them,but no there is not a meta-package
[08:32] <ardchoille> lokpest: those aren't kde core apps. you need to install koffice
[08:32] <tharun> lokpest: try restarting into KDE. sudo /etc/init.d/kdm
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> tharun: whaa?
[08:32] <ardchoille> tharun: huh?
[08:33] <lokpest> so there is no such thing as a metapackage that installs all kde apps?
[08:33] <Vermux> ardchoille: it created it under /$. what does it mean?
[08:33] <Vermux> ardchoille: probably because I typed / before the filename
[08:33] <ardchoille> Vermux: do you have a directory named "$"?
[08:34] <sub[t] rnl> greets all
[08:34] <ardchoille> muzycales: What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[08:34] <ardchoille> !bash | Vermux I recommend you read this
[08:34] <ubotu> Vermux I recommend you read this: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:35] <Vermux> ardchoille: I have something similar to name@name:/$
[08:35] <ardchoille> over ssh?
[08:37] <muzycales> ardchoille: I'm trying to fallow the instalation procces from the source (web page) they say that for ubuntu the debian way to install it is the same
[08:37] <muzycales> so I use the links and download the deb pack
[08:38] <ardchoille> muzycales: If you start installing debian packages, you're going to end up with lots of problems. I don't care what the website says, it's just not safe.
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> muzycales: is ther another deb there called "lib something-or-other"?
[08:40] <muzycales> there are deb packs and the source code
[08:51] <ardchoille> muzycales: The proper and safe way to manage apps is: Iinstall from the repos. if you can't do that, look for an ubuntu package. If you can't get that, compile from source. If you can't do that, don't use the app. There are lots of people who will tell you things because it worked for them. But, that doesn't mean it will be safe for your system.
[08:51] <Vermux> can I use coredless telephone for voip and for regular line, each on eon seperate line?
[08:51] <muzycales> so how can I know if I have that app in my reps?
[08:51] <ardchoille> muzycales: apt-cache search packagename  . but that suite isn't in the fiesty repos
[08:51] <ardchoille> !info opengroupware
[08:51] <ubotu> Package opengroupware does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:51] <muzycales> thanks
[08:51] <muzycales> well I have the source shoud I try to compilate?
[08:51] <ardchoille> muzycales: There are other groupware apps in the repos, tho: egroupware and phpgroupware
[08:51] <muzycales> the prob. is that I need the group-calendar
[08:51] <ardchoille> muzycales: phpgroupware and egroupware both have calendars
[08:51] <atlfalcons866> can i install kde4 on top of kde
[08:51] <muzycales> thanks
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> atlfalcons866: at the same time, yes
[08:51] <atlfalcons866> it wont overwrite anything
[08:51] <ardchoille> muzycales: and, iirc, korganizer/kontact can do groupware stuff
[08:51] <muzycales> ardchoille: yes but they have some user /profiles and group postnot-it
[08:51] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[08:51] <muzycales> for dynamic interaction
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> atlfalcons866: nope
[08:51] <atlfalcons866> it will be like install gnome or xfce on kubuntu
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> atlfalcons866: yeah
[08:51] <atlfalcons866> ok
[08:51] <muzycales> ardchoille: how deep the Kontact/korganizer works in group so far?
[08:51] <ardchoille> muzycales: No idea, I never used it. But a friend of mine uses it to connect to her work calendar.
[08:51] <Eyeless> what do i need to do to make a chroot jail (my 32bit env) see my homepartition as if it where a hd (currently i can only see a sysfs from inside the jail)
[08:51] <atlfalcons866> is it normal for ext3 to stall with large files 2GB>
[08:51] <muzycales> ardchoille: and the calendar server /interface is comun? like group stuff?
[08:51] <ardchoille> muzycales: Try asking in #kde and see if they can point you in the right direction
[08:51] <muzycales> ardchoille: thanks the prob. is I'm using gnome (ubuntu) not kubuntu
[08:51] <ardchoille> atlfalcons866: Doesn't stall here
[08:51] <ardchoille> muzycales: Then you should be in #ubuntu
[08:51] <WaltzingAlong> Eyeless: setting in /etc/fstab to bind the directory /home to /chroot32/home
[08:51] <muzycales> you'r right the prob. is they don't answer :P
[08:51] <atlfalcons866> will using jfs be faster
[08:54] (Eyeless/#kubuntu) i can write to my /home from inside the jail, but cant see how much space is used with df
[08:54] (nosrednaekim/#kubuntu) Zamber: heh.... good job!
[08:55] <atlfalcons866> !xfs
[08:55] <ubotu> xfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
[08:55] <atlfalcons866> !reiserfs
[08:55] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[08:56] <ardchoille> iirc, the benefits in reiserfs aren't apparent unless you're working with huge files
[08:57] <atlfalcons866> what fs would you recommend
[08:57] <ardchoille> ext3
[08:57] <Eyeless> ardchoille: wasnt it for working with lots of small files(100k in a directory)?
[08:58] <atlfalcons866> how does ext3 journal its data
[08:58] <atlfalcons866> jfs journals metadata only
[08:59] <atlfalcons866> what part of kde4 should i install
[08:59] <ardchoille> Eyeless: I thought it was large files.. but I could be wrong.
[09:00] <Eyeless> ardchoille: it could be large files aswell :P
[09:00] <atlfalcons866> should i just install kde4 base
[09:00] <ardchoille> Eyeless: I asked a friend about that and he said "the benefits of reiserfs aren't apparent until you have to hide a corpse"
[09:01] <Eyeless> ardchoille: that on the other hand might be true :P
[09:01] <ardchoille> atlfalcons866: kde4 is barely usable at this point
[09:01] <atlfalcons866> ardchoille: is that for the gutsy resportoyrs
[09:01] <ardchoille> atlfalcons866: No idea, gutsy help is in #ubuntu+1
[09:01] <atlfalcons866> reiserfs isnt devloped anymore
[09:02] <ardchoille> atlfalcons866: It isn't? Didn't know that.
[09:02] <atlfalcons866> hans reiser got arrested
[09:03] <llutz> http://www.namesys.com/ still exists and develeops
[09:03] <llutz> atlfalcons866: ^^
[09:03] <atlfalcons866> my bad
[09:04] <genii> ScorpKing: :)
[09:04] <atlfalcons866> resiserfs v3 ceased devolpment
[09:04] <atlfalcons866> Namesys considers ReiserFS (now occasionally referred to as Reiser3) stable and feature-complete and, with the exception of security updates and critical bug fixes, has thus ceased development on it to concentrate on its successor, Reiser4.
[09:06] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[09:07] <atlfalcons866> the only activly devoped filesystem at this point is ext2/ext3
[09:09] <atlfalcons866> IBM ceased supporting JFS
[09:10] <llutz> atlfalcons866:  + ext4
[09:11] <genii> AFS is still being developed. but of course your average home user has not much use for it
[09:11] <atlfalcons866> whats AFS
[09:11] <atlfalcons866> toy mean XFS
[09:12] <genii> altfalcons866:: http://www.openafs.org/
[09:12] <genii> Weird. Konversation's tab completetion here seems broken
[09:12] <atlfalcons866> i am going to try kde4 now
[09:13] <ardchoille> genii: There several options for that
[09:14] <sredna> what are the UUID strings in /etc/fstab?
[09:14] <ardchoille> !uuid | sredna
[09:14] <ubotu> sredna: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:16] <genii> sredna: Basically unique identifiers so that a removable disk which may may appear as sda one day sdb another day sdc yet another day will always be recognised as the same disk and mounted into the proper place
[09:16] <xenol> can someone tell me how can i completely remove wolfenstein enemy territory and tc:elite?
[09:17] <sredna> genii: so, when i want to add a new partition to hold /var, should i find the UUID?
[09:17] <genii> sredna: It would be prudent, yes
[09:18] <sredna> genii: ty :)
[09:18] <genii> sredna: np
[09:19] <sredna> now, when adding a partition for /var, is there a smar way to free the space on the /partition (except booting a livecd)?
[09:21] <ScorpKing> sredna: you could try qtparted. don't think it will work tho.
[09:21] <sredna> ScorpKing: well, i rather want to get rid of the current /var directory
[09:22] <ScorpKing> mount a loopback fs over /var. lol
[09:22] <sredna> (and what happens if i don't, since there will be /dev/hda1/var and /dev/hda2 mounted on /var?)
[09:23] <ScorpKing> whatever you mount last will be used.
[09:23] <sredna> ok
[09:24] <sredna> i hope 10g space on /var will make apt happy, but honestly, i fear it will just say that i requires 14g
[09:24] <ScorpKing> you could mount a clean disk over /var right now and /var will be empty.
[09:24] <gennaro> !raid
[09:24] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:24] <ScorpKing> sredna: better to boot from a live cd and fix it properly.
[09:24] <sredna> ScorpKing: fix what?
[09:25] <ScorpKing> the size problem
[09:25] <sredna> how do you suggest i do that?
[09:26] <ScorpKing> boot from the live cd, copy /var to new <disk> and add an entry to fstab.
[09:26] <sredna> i dont even think i have a livecd
[09:27] <sredna> i did copy the contents of /var
[09:27] <ScorpKing> heh. that could be a problem. partitions won't resize if they're mounted
[09:27] <sredna> ?
[09:27] <sredna> why should it resize?
[09:27] <ScorpKing> sredna: sorry, i need to go. hope you come right.
[09:28] <ScorpKing> nite guys!
[09:34] <lee986321> wahts the command form updating from a cd rom?
[09:34] <lee986321> lets say I have version 10 on a cd rom and I want to up date it
[09:34] <lee986321> I mean up grade
[09:38] <choco_hopper> hi
[09:39] <choco_hopper> i got my video-card (geforce nx7600gt) to work now but there are still two problems
[09:39] <choco_hopper> a.) my xkbmap changes on every boot to "us" instead of "de";  b.) my computer crashes on opening a menu in blender
[09:39] <choco_hopper> any suggestions?
[09:42] <WaltzingAlong> choco_hopper: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:45] <blendtux> hi WaltzingAlong, I was  wondering did you have gmailfs yourself installed
[09:45] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: no
[09:45] <WaltzingAlong> not not, have used the windows version
[09:46] <blendtux> have used the windows version, why did you stop using it
[09:46] <WaltzingAlong> stopped using windows
[09:47] <blendtux> oke are you planning to use it on linux
[09:47] <genii> lee986321: You just copied the later file to a cd?
[09:48] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: i have not been but thought of trying it out once
[09:49] <gennaro> i need help
[09:50] <gennaro> hey
[09:50] <gennaro> help me
[09:50] <keith_b> Hi gennaro. What's up?
[09:50] <Minataku> Would help us if we knew what kind of help you needed
[09:50] <gennaro> i can't see my sata hd (raid 0) on kabuntu
[09:51] <gennaro> i've 2 hd in sata 0 with promise fastTrack
[09:51] <Minataku> You know that RAID 0 is an abhorrent abuse of RAID and actually puts you at a multiplied risk of total data loss, right?
[09:51] <gennaro> yes
[09:51] <Minataku> Just checking
[09:51] <gennaro> but i need space
[09:51] <keith_b> I've never worked with RAID on Linux, but hopefully one of these other folk can help.  Best of luck.
[09:52] <Minataku> As for your issue, check that Linux can actually see the device
[09:52] <gennaro> sigh.....
[09:52] <Minataku> The RAID card
[09:52] <Minataku> Not the array
[09:52] <gennaro> ok
[09:52] <gennaro> now i see
[09:52] <luca> hi everyone
[09:52] <Minataku> If the RAID card is unsupported in Linux, then naturally you won't see the array
[09:52] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: have you been using it?
[09:52] <gennaro> on ubuntu
[09:53] <luca> can someone help me? I have watchdog running...but I do NOT have it installed!
[09:53] <gennaro> i've used the array
[09:53] <Minataku> Hm
[09:53] <gennaro> on ubunt i used dmraid
[09:53] <Minataku> !raid
[09:53] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:53] <blendtux> ehm, no i get an error message its not wokring, i was hoping you could install it and try it ou t
[09:53] <Minataku> Try that first link
[09:53] <gennaro> i've tried it
[09:53] <Minataku> And possibly the second as well
[09:54] <gennaro> i don't understand some step
[09:54] <gennaro> i download the dmraid
[09:54] <xenol> hello. i d like to ask if linux creates smth like fragmentation and if so how can i remove it?
[09:54] <gennaro> but i can't install it
[09:54] <hero> is there a kde version of ghost?
[09:54] <gennaro> it's not work
[09:54] <tommymann> I'm having problems installing kdenlive from source
[09:54] <gennaro> i need the array
[09:56] <tommymann> not very talkative today
[09:57] <Minataku> Sorry, I've never used RAID myself
[09:58] <Minataku> I've hit my knowledge limit
[09:58] <gennaro> ok
[09:58] <gennaro> thanks
[09:58] <mk6> hello
[09:58] <gennaro> !raid
[09:58] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:58] <gennaro> whati is LVM?
[10:01] <KaTet> hello, anybody here?
[10:02] <orion> !w32codecs
[10:02] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[10:02] <mk6> can you help me? I'm trying to use 2 networks at once. 1st network is wireless and the 2nd is LAN. When I'm getting IP from any of these networks, I'm disconecting with the network I was connected. How I can use them together? I'm a proud member of Kubuntu FF. Thanks
[10:02] <boggystudios> does any one here know how to import mail into Mozilla thunderbird from MS Outlook?
[10:03] <blendtux> what is Kubuntu FF mk6
[10:03] <hero> !ghost
[10:03] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[10:03] <hero> hrm
[10:03] <hero> !g4l > hero
[10:03] <mk6> Kubuntu Feisty Fawn
[10:03] <mk6> Kubuntu 7.04
[10:04] <blendtux> oh oke
[10:05] <orion> boggystudios: Sounds like a fairly well known problem have you asked the net?
[10:05] <orion> feisty Fawn
[10:06] <boggystudios> orion: yes I have googled it but all I can find is the Thunderbird FAQ but it is of no help
[10:06] <mk6> blendtux: do you know how to do it?
[10:06] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: which errors?
[10:07] <orion> Hmm
[10:07] <WaltzingAlong> boggystudios: install thunderbird on the machine with outlook. thunderbird will ask to import it
[10:07] <blendtux> ehm, i followed the tutorial you gave me WaltzingAlong
[10:08] <blendtux> are you installing it WaltzingAlong
[10:08] <german> hello i am having trouble trying to delete files from a disc hardisk
[10:08] <LogicalDash> When I close my laptop and then open it and try to unlock it, I can't enter my password. With SCIM disabled, I can. Is this a known bug?
[10:08] <german> and when i close dolphin, it tells me there is some error and that it seems like my disk is full but it aint
[10:09] <nosrednaekim> german: if may... run a "df" and pastebin the results
[10:09] <nosrednaekim> *it
[10:09] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: installed. mounted
[10:10] <orion> german: try df -h
[10:10] <blendtux> you are kidding me
[10:10] <blendtux> what kubuntu are you runniing
[10:10] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: reported a 404 bad request error, but shows with mount that it is mounted
[10:10] <WaltzingAlong> attempting to use it
[10:11] <smoke> lol
[10:11] <blendtux> i got something no end point something
[10:11] <smoke> sPain?????????
[10:11] <genii> gennaro: Because the controller should be doing the RAID and not software i think more you just want the driver installed for the FastTrack card. Should be something like /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_promise.ko    although the exact kernel name/version may be different on your computer. Are you able to boot the system at all, or is it supposed to be booting from that RAID0 ?
[10:14] <blendtux> leg
[10:14] <blendtux> lag
[10:15] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: should be a gmailfs.log with errors.
[10:15] <blendtux> yes
[10:17] <gennaro> !raid
[10:17] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:17] <blendtux> its says i dont have ssl installed
[10:21] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: python-pyopenssl perhaps?
[10:23] <orion> picachu: I khoose you!
[10:23] <picachu> orion, :)
[10:24] <blendtux> oke installed
[10:24] <blendtux> it seems to be mounted
[10:25] <blendtux> but when i cd to my mounted direcotry i get this message
[10:25] <blendtux> root@blendtux-laptop:/media# cd gmail
[10:25] <blendtux> bash: cd: gmail: Transport endpoint is not connected
[10:27] <MrBallZ> question: could it be good to wait until kde 4.0 is released , in order to upgrade to Gutsy  ???? any opinions ??
[10:28] <nosrednaekim> MrBallZ: no, Gutsy won't have KDE4 by default
[10:28] <WaltzingAlong> MrBallZ: use gutsy. some months later. use kde4
[10:28] <WaltzingAlong> blendtux: i get no space left on disk
[10:28] <WaltzingAlong> tis all for now
[10:29] <MrBallZ> nosrednaekim: i know, that's why the question , if it's good to wait so i can get gutsy at the time kde 4 is available ...
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> Mr
[10:29] <emilsedgh> GO KDE4, GO!
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> MrBallZ: nah... not really.
[10:29] <WaltzingAlong> MrBallZ: yes you could wait until kde4 is available for gutsy to use gutsy
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> I just some more screenshots of it.... really sweet
[10:29] <MrBallZ> WaltzingAlong: is kde 4 still buggy on top of gutsy ?
[10:30] <WaltzingAlong> kde4 is hardly usable yet
[10:30] <WaltzingAlong> in my experience anyway
[10:30] <blendtux> kde4 will be delayed again
[10:30] <MrBallZ> errr ...
[10:30] <MrBallZ> not good then to wait that long
[10:31] <blendtux> well it should, i installed the beta2 but this was more like a pre-alpha in mine opinion
[10:31] <WaltzingAlong> i can see it coming out as expected but i would not advise anyone to use it (just for development yet)
[10:31] <blendtux> this is a very important release, better safe then sorry
[10:33] <WaltzingAlong> some things work, it is just not meant to replace your current desktop environment, yet
[10:33] <joshjosh> Where can I add things to startup, like the "sessions" in gnome?
[10:33] <WaltzingAlong> until tomorrow (or later today for some of you)
[10:33] <WaltzingAlong> joshjosh: ~/.kde/Autostar
[10:33] <WaltzingAlong> joshjosh: ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:33] <joshjosh> thanks.
[10:34] <nosrednaekim> joshjosh: get the "kcontrol-autostart" program.
[10:34] <joshjosh> download it then start it?
[10:34] <orion> !ultimate
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ultimate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <joshjosh> how do is tart it? Just kcontrol-autostart?
[10:36] <MrBallZ> so for gutsy upgrade over internet, just check Pre-releases on Adept ... and wait until everything is done right ???
[10:37] <joshjosh> MrBallZ, what version are you using now?
[10:37] <MrBallZ> joshjosh: Feisty
[10:38] <joshjosh> MrBallZ, You're going to have to do a -dist upgrade
[10:38] <MrBallZ> joshjosh: so better from command line ...
[10:38] <nosrednaekim> joshjosh: start up "kcontrol" and it will be in there somewhere
[10:39] <MrBallZ> question:  whick backup solution do you guys prefer:  Konserve  or Keep ?
[10:39] <joshjosh> MrBallZ, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[10:39] <joshjosh> nosrednaekim, Thakns!
[10:39] <joshjosh> thanks. i'm smart
[10:39] <MrBallZ> joshjosh: thnx
[10:40] <kruegmar> Hi, truecrypt for Gutsy only as source ??
[10:41] <MrBallZ> question:  whick backup solution do you guys prefer:  Konserve  or Keep ?
[10:44] <frode> it seems as i have an instance of adept running, but i dont know how to find it and quit it. i am not able to start ut adept, get the message that an other instance is running, i must quit that first. is there a prosess manager somewhere?
[10:45] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[10:45] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> frode: and yes, try "ps -ax" from the konsole or ctrl+esc for the graphical tool.
[10:48] <frode> ok i did not find it in the processes, so i will try what ubotu told
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[10:48] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[10:48] <hero> !gis
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <kruegmar> ps -ef | grep adept
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> hero: looking for GIS softwre?
[10:49] <hero> yeah
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> hero: the only one I know of for linux is Grass
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> !info grass
[10:49] <ubotu> grass: Geographic Resources Analysis Support System. In component universe, is extra. Version 6.0.2-6ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 6039 kB, installed size 14628 kB
[10:50] <hero> k
[10:50] <nosrednaekim> pretty compicated though
[10:50] <Anarch> How can I control the font used by KDE for stuff like menus?  After the recent upgrade it got way too big & I don't see where to configure it.  It shows up in Firefox as well as Konsole so it's not KDE-specific, but it seems to pervade Kubuntu.
[10:51] <hero> nosrednaekim: you say that like it's a bad thing
[10:51] <dwangoac> Anarch: I had the same dang problem - even at 1920x1200 it was still huge
[10:52] <dwangoac> Anarch: I used Kubuntu's System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts menu to force it to 96 DPI fonts
[10:52] <nosrednaekim> hero: you decide :)
[10:53] <frode> adept is fixed... thank you :)
[10:53] <Anarch> dwangoac: Thanks for the clue; I'm at 1280x1024 so you can imagine how I'm suffering.  I'll try that menu.
[10:53] <dwangoac> Anarch: I was really surprised how much changing the fonts altered the way menus looked.  You'll probably have to restart X / KDE
[10:53] <hero> nosrednaekim: i wonder how one could use GIS stuff in a non-academic context
[10:54] <kharloss> hi there . i need upgrade my PHP vers 5.1  to latest version. I have ubuntu server 6.10 . what`s next ?a
[10:54] <hero> nosrednaekim: how it would be useful, i mean
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> hero: my dad uses it for rockhouding, to trace geologic features
[10:54] <german> and when i close dolphin, it tells me there is some error and that it seems like my disk is full but it aint
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> german: what does df tell you about how full your disk is?
[10:54] <hero> nosrednaekim: cool
[10:55] <german> i got several partitions but only one is on 90%
[10:55] <wesley> how can i see if i use the final kubuntu version or the rc? by upgrading there did not stand that i was upgrading to the rc but kubuntu 7.10
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> hero: so yeah.... its pretty useful, its really nice as NJ did an aeril survey of the state, so we have high-res photos of the whole state that we can lay over maps and such.
[10:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> !autopackage
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autopackage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> hmm
[10:56] <german> and that is the partition i got kubuntu on
[10:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> autopackage sounds...  intriguing.
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> german: hmmm. try deleting some stuff, it may just be a warning..
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: yeah... not really well supported though.
[10:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> german: sudo apt-get clean
[10:57] <wesley> is it possible that i upgraded to the official version?
[10:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> clean out your package cache, that could help
[10:57] <german> the thing is it does not allow me to delete stuff
[10:57] <german> from other drives,
[10:57] <nosrednaekim> wesley: what does "uname -a" say?
[10:57] <german> could it be that when it is gping to move something to trash it has to place it in the kubuntu drive?
[10:58] <wesley> uname?
[10:58] <nosrednaekim> wesley: yup
[10:58] <nosrednaekim> german: do you have a separate /home partition?
[10:58] <wesley> do i need to run that in terminial to know the version?
[10:58] <nosrednaekim> wesley: yeah
[10:59] <german> nope, i did a root partition of 5.5 Gb and a swap partition of almost 2 Gigd
[10:59] <nosrednaekim> wesley: or "lsb_release -a"
[10:59] <wesley> Linux zangetsu 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux  that says it
[10:59] <nosrednaekim> wesley: release candidate.
[10:59] <wesley> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[10:59] <wesley> Description:    Ubuntu 7.10
[10:59] <wesley> Release:        7.10
[10:59] <wesley> Codename:       gutsy
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> your clock is off BTW ;)
[11:00] <wesley> that says it
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> yeah... you are running gutsy, but the final hasn't been released yet
[11:01] <wesley> no that will be the 18 be realesed but this one is with kde 3,5.8
[11:01] <wesley> there doest stand thats its a rc
[11:02] <dwangoac> OK, I'll jump into the fray with a question - I did a fresh install of Gutsy Kubuntu RC and running synergys reports no errors but I cannot connect to the Synergy server from any other computer.
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> it is
[11:02] <german> how could i possibly change the size of my partition to kubuntu?
[11:02] <german> i can't see the drive from windows
[11:02] <german> is there any aplication for it on kubuntu?
[11:03] <dwangoac> german: Boot from a live disc :)
[11:03] <german> adn reinstall?
[11:03] <dwangoac> (OK, that wasn't helpful, but...)
[11:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> german: boot from the live cd and use gparted
[11:03] <ardchoille> dwangoac: Gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[11:03] <german> what do i do from the kubuntu live cd then?
[11:03] <dwangoac> ardchoille: Thanks!
[11:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> you will be able to resize your kubuntu partition
[11:03] <wesley> upgrading from 7.04 seems to be better
[11:03] <german> gparted ? where do i find it on the disk?
[11:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> in the menu.
[11:04] <german> what sixe do you got?
[11:04] <german> what is the apropiate i mean?
[11:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's a live cd, you find it the same place any other app would be
[11:04] <Vermux> how do I delete a file in cmd?
[11:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> Vermux: assuming you mean a shell, use rm
[11:05] <ardchoille> Vermux: I sent you a link that teaches you how to do things from the command line
[11:05] <ardchoille> !bash | Vermux Please read this
[11:05] <ubotu> Vermux Please read this: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:05] <Vermux> thanx
[11:05] <ardchoille> yw.. again
[11:06] <wesley> exporting in kdenlive doest go right
[11:14] <german> hi at my univerity they got both unix and windows,
[11:15] <german> when you load unix, you cant writte windows on the terminal and it opens a windows loading windows Xp
[11:15] <atlfalcons866> can i install kubuntu on an ntfs parition
[11:15] <german> any idea how i coul do that in my pc?
[11:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> german: chances are they're using virtual machines
[11:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> atlfalcons866: no, no you cannot, not at this point.
[11:17] <atlfalcons866> ok
[11:17] <german> what does that mean?
[11:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> german: it means they're probably using VMs
[11:18] <Vermux> whats the difference between /$ and ~$?
[11:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> "windows" is probably a link to run a preconfigured qemu session running windows,
[11:18] <german> qemu?
[11:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes, qemu
[11:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> ~qemu
[11:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> !qemu
[11:19] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:20] <german> so that is how i could run that on my pc?
[11:23] <horde> I want to set up a user account for ssh but want to confine the user to a single directory (recursively) with read/write priviliges.  But I'm a newb and don't know how.  Any help?
[11:24] <dorkface> is anyone familiar with nvidia-settings?
[11:24] <dorkface> !nvidia-settings
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-settings - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <administrator> how can i get mpeg files to play with kaffiene on kubuntu?
[11:26] <administrator> anyone?
[11:26] <hellcattrav> clamav had dependency errors...whats up with that?
[11:26] <emilsedgh> !mp3 | administrator
[11:26] <ubotu> administrator: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:28] <jon__> can somebody help me make my kubuntu look nice
[11:28] <jon__> ill show you a pic of what i want it to look like :] 
[11:29] <ardchoille> jon__: Sure, what do you want?
[11:29] <administrator> no die
[11:29] <ardchoille> jon__:  btw, http://www.kde-look.org is a very nice website for lots of stuff.
[11:29] <jon__> ardchoille: ill get you a pic of what i want it to look like :] 
[11:30] <jon__> ive been tere before
[11:30] <jon__> i don't know half the stuff to do
[11:30] <jon__> ardchoille: can we privet chat?
[11:30] <ardchoille> Gimme a pic and I'll try to help
[11:30] <ardchoille> jon__: join #ardchoille
[11:32] <administrator> vlc player keeps freezing up
[11:32] <administrator> why?
[11:34] <Minataku> administrator: Your computer is too cold?
[11:35] <Minataku> There's any number of possibilities as to why it's locking up
[11:41] <luc_> google
[11:44] <Aranel> how can I see kubuntu 7.10 countdown ?
[11:51] <sven_oostenbrink> Could anybody tell me when will the new kubuntu 7.10 be available?
[11:51] <sven_oostenbrink> like official release, not al;pha or beta :)
[11:52] <NickPresta> !gutsy | sven_oostenbrink
[11:52] <ubotu> sven_oostenbrink: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:54] <sven_oostenbrink> NickPresta, thats the new ubuntu, but the new Kubuntu will also be released on that date (2 more days!!!)
[11:54] <sven_oostenbrink> ?
[11:55] <NickPresta> sven_oostenbrink, yep
[11:55] <sven_oostenbrink> NickPresta, the harddrive of my laptop  is about to fail.. in 2 days Dell will come to replace it... this would be an awesome timing if 7.10 would be available on that same day :)
[11:56] <sven_oostenbrink> Could I simply SAFELY upgrade from kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 without reinstall?
[11:56] <NickPresta> sven_oostenbrink, unless there is some unforeseen problem, the 18th is the day :)
[11:56] <NickPresta> and yes, upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 is fine
[11:57] <sven_oostenbrink> also when Im using external repos?
[11:57] <sven_oostenbrink> cewl cewl cewl... Im like waiting for santa claus here.. :)
[11:59] <iownyou> gutsy is bloated i wish feisty could stay :[
[12:00] <reagleBRKLN> is it possible to use kitchensync with Palm TX? I wish I could go back to using KDE PIM but KPilot was so unreliable I've been using jpilot for a year now
[12:06] <ardchoille> iownyou: No one says you *have* to upgrade :)
[12:07] <ardchoille> iownyou: I skipped Edgy because Dapper was so nice. I won't be installing Gutsy either, I'm waiting for the next LTS release (Hardy Herron)
[12:08] <Creationist> Could someone please tell me how to access a different CD from the LiveCD?  I only have one CD drive.
[12:09] <ardchoille> Creationist: Well, if you only have on cd drive, then there's no place to load a second cd, right?
[12:10] <Creationist> ardchoille: In the same drive, I mean.
[12:10] <Creationist> As in, remove the Kubunut Live CD and insert another one.
[12:11] <ardchoille> Creationist: afaik, you can't do that.
[12:12] <Creationist> hmm... okay.  How about accessing my hard drive from the live CD?  I keep getting an errors saying it rejected uid 999
[12:22] <iownyou> how do i check if im running 64bit kubuntu or 32?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> iownyou: uname -a
[12:23] <ardchoille> iownyou: open a terminal and type: uname -a
[12:23] <kharloss> hi . i guess i have verry big problem witrh my ubuntu . i guess i`ve been hacked . take a look please  at my  /etc/init.d/apache2  :  http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=5107
[12:24] <Vermux> talk later friendsssss
[12:25] <ardchoille> kharloss: Are you referring to the "# Stupid hack to keep lintian happy. (Warrk! Stupidhack!)." part?
[12:25] <iownyou> whbat does this meen
[12:25] <iownyou> x86_64
[12:25] <kharloss> yes ardchoille
[12:25] <ardchoille> iownyou: it means you're running 64bit
[12:26] <ardchoille> kharloss: That doesn't mean you've been hacked. That's just a comment about that section of the file
[12:26] <kharloss> :)  thanks
[12:27] <iownyou> ardchoille: thank god i know now i was about to install it
[12:27] <iownyou> ardchoille: its hard to install flash plugin on 64bit
[12:27] <iownyou> brb
[12:27] <iownyou> :] 
[12:27] <ardchoille> iownyou: You're gonna find a lot of things are hard on 64bit
[12:34] <atlfalcons866> will kde4 be in hardy heron
[12:35] <Anarch> New Konsole breakage since most recent upgrade (Feisty): in a Vim buffer where option mouse='', middle-clicking to paste now moves the Vim cursor to the point of the click; used to be it just pasted the input (which is what I want).  How can this improvement be reverted?
[12:35] <ardchoille> Anarch: on feisty?
[12:36] <Anarch> ardchoille: Yes, Feisty, Vim7.0.
[12:36] <ardchoille> Anarch: vim 7.0 here, middle-click pastes and doesn't move the cursor.
[12:36] <ardchoille> Maybe a setting needs to be tweaked?
[12:37] <NickPresta> VIM - Vi IMproved 7.0 (2006 May 7, compiled Aug 28 2007 18:28:18) here and middle click pastes. Check your vimrc and such
[12:37] <Anarch> ardchoille: Fascinating.  Your KDE is up to date?
[12:37] <ardchoille> Anarch: yes
[12:37] <Anarch> ardchoille: OK, thanks.  I'll fiddle around, see what I can learn.
[12:39] <Anarch> NickPresta: I assume you're saying (like ardchoille) that middle-click pastes *without* moving the cursor, right?