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=== Topic for #ubuntu-motu-torrent: Home of Ubuntu MOTU Torrent Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Torrent | Launchpad Homepage: https://launchpad.net/~motu-torrent | If interested in joining the team, please read Membership section in team's wiki page | Bug Triaging: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~motu-torrent/+packagebugs | Bzr branches: https://code.launchpad.net/~motu-torrent/
=== Topic (#ubuntu-motu-torrent): set by bluekuja at Tue May 22 23:04:22 2007
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DarkSun88Hi all01:02
pochuHi DarkSun8801:18
DarkSun88Hi pochu :)01:19
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hi guys01:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)01:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I start fixing lintian error01:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)01:22
pochuHey bluekuja01:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pochu: :)01:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ubuntulog is inside01:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) great01:26
pochuSo be careful with what you say ;)01:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) haha :)01:28
DktrKranzno more spam? d'oh!01:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D01:29
pochuWe can register #ubuntu-motu-torrent-offtopic :p01:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol01:30
DktrKranz30 characters? no way! #u-m-t-ot instead!01:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D01:31
pochuhehe :)01:32
DktrKranzI'm gonna die if I type too many characters at a time01:32
pochuDktrKranz: you can set it as autojoin, so no need to type it ;)01:34
DktrKranzmh, let me do some tests01:35
DktrKranzusing copy and paste it took only 12 key pressures, +1 :P01:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: all lintian problems are strictly related to bad makefiles/configures02:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and trying to update it I get some macro undefinied like AC_PROG_LIBTOOL02:06
asacbluekuja: you need libtool installed for that02:18
asacthough you should not need libtool if no libs are build02:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: a lib is built02:18
asacif you really need it you need a build-depends02:18
asacon libtool02:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: do you think that running autotools will fix those problems?02:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g docs are installed by default, also if not listed in DOCS02:19
asacno02:19
asacif you have no libtool installed then the libtool macro does not exist02:19
asacfor the rest i have no idea02:19
asacupdating autotools generated files might help02:20
asacgive it a try02:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: gconf are installed in /usr/etc/..02:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and thats bad02:20
asacyes02:20
asacthats probably a Makefile.am bug02:20
asace.g. bad makefile02:20
asacmaybe look what packages do that do it proper02:20
asacbluekuja: probably that is due to some missing configure switch02:21
asaclook what other packages pass to configure in rules02:21
asacand then look if you do the same02:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I found out that gconf variable is set in aclocal02:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) GCONF_SCHEMA_FILE_DIR='$(sysconfdir)/gconf/schemas'02:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) using this02:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that installs them into /usr/etc02:22
asacbluekuja: what do you pass to configure?02:22
asacprobably you don't pass proper sysconfdir02:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let me see02:23
asacwhich is why things get installed beneath $(prefix)/etc02:23
asace.g. look what you are missing02:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah02:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sysconfdir='${prefix}/etc'02:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bad folder02:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in configure02:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let's fix and try again02:24
asacbluekuja: look at how good packages invoke configure02:25
asacthe basic parameters are *always* identical for all autotoolized packages02:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: good package = updated?02:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) updated = autotoolized02:27
asache?02:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) look at how good packages invoke configure02:27
asacyes02:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I was talking about this02:27
asacjust pick some02:27
asacmost should do it proper02:27
asacat best pick some package from main02:27
asacsome C (or C++) package02:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I see how the invoke configure?02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) into sources02:28
asacno02:28
asacin rules02:28
asacread above02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah yeah sorry02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)02:28
asacyour problem is probably in rules ... not in the make/configure files itself :)02:28
asacnp02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) checking02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) a package in main02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: problem was in configure file02:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I changed gconf dir02:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and it works02:34
asacgood02:34
asacgo ahead02:34
asacfix the rest :)02:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to find out docs02:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: whats the default dir for gconf?02:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) PREFIX/...02:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then?02:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *schemas02:34
asacno idea ... search in /usr/share ... there should be schemas already02:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok gconf problem fixed02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: need to find out why those docs are installed without rules permission02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: do you think that adding a clean rule for it would be ok?02:47
asacclean rule?02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g rm ...02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in rules02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to delete them without bothering makefiles02:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g -rm -f (CURDIR)debian/usr/share/doc/diff-ext/COPYING02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) */02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for all of them02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) trying it02:49
asaci am currently in -classroom :)02:51
asacno ... deleting is probably not a good idea02:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: y?02:52
asacbluekuja: look how other packages deal with that ... they should face the same problem02:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: its not a rules problem02:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its related to bad makefiles02:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as gconf02:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I set in DOCS only authors file02:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I get all of them02:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) at the end02:53
asack02:53
asaclook in the Makefile.am files02:54
asacand see whats wrong with them02:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah02:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) currently checking02:54
asaccompare to other packages ... which have COPYING et al in there source tree as well02:54
asacmost should have that file02:54
asacas its standard for autotoolized things02:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: one more thing02:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lib is installed into02:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah no02:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nvw02:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *nvm02:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)02:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, something bad is in Makefile03:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g am__installdirs = "$(DESTDIR)$(diff_extdocdir)"03:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) diff_extdocDATA_INSTALL = $(INSTALL_DATA)03:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and diff_extdoc_DATA = \03:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) README \03:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) COPYING \03:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) AUTHORS \03:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ChangeLog \03:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) INSTALL \03:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) NEWS \03:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) TODO03:00
asacbluekuja: looking at makefile might help to understand the problem ... but the problem has to be solved in Makefile.am03:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I cleaned makefile.am deleting diff_extdoc_DATA = \03:01
asacdo you really want that?03:01
asaci mean having README and stuff like that is ok03:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) they are blank03:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:01
asacblank?03:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) zero-byte-file-in-doc-directory usr/share/doc/diff-ext/TODO03:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) zero-byte-file-in-doc-directory usr/share/doc/diff-ext/README03:02
asacah ... yes ... drop those blank ones03:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) COPYING is not needed too03:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if I leave the changelog there03:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I get03:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) changelog-file-not-compressed ChangeLog03:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because has been already set in rules03:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) by default03:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so all those files need to be removed cause blank files or bad(like copying to needed)03:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I've fixed LIBTOOL problem, now updating and building03:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to see if docs are no more installed03:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: worked03:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:07
asacbluekuja: if you are done... do a lintian/linda run03:07
asacto see any problems :)03:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) clean03:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) clean now03:08
asacfine03:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: need to import into bzr now03:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) how do you prefer it?03:08
asacimport to debian branch03:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g checkins03:08
asacthen submit changes that are in upstream code upstream03:08
asaconce they applied them ... we have to merge03:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) we dont have a debian branch03:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) all in one03:09
asacyes ... we have upstream + debian03:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup03:09
asachttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/diff-ext/upstream.source/ vs http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/diff-ext/debian.source/03:10
asacland your changes in debian.source03:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok03:10
asactaking care that you checkin per issue03:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok03:10
asacso the checkins are distinct03:10
asacand you can then diff those checkins only and send them upstream03:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) first checking / docs03:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and so on03:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok03:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets do it03:11
asacright03:15
asacyou will do ... if its not perfect ... no problem :)03:15
asaci am happy enough if you are aware of the importance :)03:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup :)03:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: done, all revisions pushed correctly, now it should be ok to build it again to check lintian :)03:22
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asacbluekuja: ok ... will try in 30 min :)03:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: sounds great03:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is normal that fetching a dependency with pbuilder gets a 404 error: not found03:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) using archive.ubuntu.com03:47
asachmm03:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and having scons as dep in control03:48
asacno03:48
asacmaybe you need to update03:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah03:48
asacthe pbuilder environment03:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets try03:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if updating wont work03:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its a problem03:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g after update, still fetch problem03:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: tell me when you built03:56
asaci will get fetch errors?03:56
asacwhy so?03:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ?03:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope it was another package03:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I'm merging03:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:57
asacah03:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) diff is ok03:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)03:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) just need your build03:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and your lintian test03:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:57
asaci will take a look at file hierarchy layout03:58
asacsome things cannot be caught by lintian03:58
asacyour last comment "in configure" file ... sounds as "always wrong"03:59
asacmodifying configure is always bad03:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: its just a dir variable03:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it has to be done from there03:59
asacyes you did it wrong03:59
asacas i said ... you lack a parameter to configure04:00
asacinvocation04:00
asacbluekuja: nevertheless its wrong04:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g --sysconfdir /usr/share04:00
asacfirst: its not persistent04:00
asacas it willl be overwritten on next autoconf04:00
asacsecond: you have the option to overwrite it by configure parameters04:00
asacso modifying it is wrong04:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, you're really right04:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) didnt think about it04:01
asacbluekuja: las i said ... please look what other packages pass to configure in rules04:01
asacits the same everywhere04:01
asace.g. if they have a sysconfdir04:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ^^04:02
asacok ... to take the short track: its /etc04:02
asacnot /usr/share04:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I was waiting your comment04:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^04:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)04:02
asacif you don't want it in rc then Makefile.am are wrong04:02
asacs/in rc/in etc/04:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: /etc ??04:02
asacif you want it in share ... then its DATA04:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: gconf files need to go to /usr/share04:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) why /etc?04:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the problem was related to a bad gconf folder04:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) reported by lintian04:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that was pointing them to /etc04:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) */usr/etc04:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) changing configure sysconfig (we can --sysconfdir to ./configure in rules too)04:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) we make the trick04:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and we're done04:05
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: passing that variable to rules's ./configure works04:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we dont have to change configure directly04:12
asacyep04:12
asacsafe bet04:12
asacno of course not04:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) uploading it04:12
asacif you want to change something in confiugre04:12
asacyou have to modifiy configure.ac04:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea04:12
asacand regen configure from that04:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) configure is not stable04:12
asacits generated04:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g it regens04:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yep04:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)04:12
asacand generated files should never be touched by hand04:12
asacnormally they even don't belong in revision control04:12
asacif you put them ... always check them in with a distinct patch04:13
asacso the diff of your manual changes does not contaminated04:13
asacbluekuja: so you can revert the last checkin (e.g. apply reversed)04:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: how?04:13
asacand check that in (e.g. backout the wrong checkin)04:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) how can I delete last checkin?04:14
asacyou can't04:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) uncommitting and overwriting04:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) should work too04:14
asac(you could but since its already published you don't want to)04:14
asacso you have to backout by applying the reverse-diff04:14
asacbluekuja: no please don't uncommitt04:14
asacon published branches04:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: oh ok^^04:14
asacwe did this in the beginning once :) ... but just to get a good start04:15
asacnow we should return to decent business and backout properly04:15
asacby a checkin on-top04:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I can apply the only change I did in one checking (changing sysconf)04:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and then fix rules04:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in another one04:15
asacyeah ... but exercise how you can do that without editing a file manual :)04:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D04:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr diff04:15
asacif you have a lager checkin to backout ... manual reverting is error-prone04:15
asacor impossible04:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ye04:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to use bzr diff04:16
asacright bzr diff is the right way to start04:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) good exercise04:16
asacmaybe there is even a bzr command do to exactly that04:16
asac(but its not called revert ... thats for sure)04:16
asaci don't know if bzr has a command to do that04:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: revert Revert files to a previous revision.04:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol04:17
asacdoing manual is a good exercise anyway :)04:17
asacbluekuja: yes ... you can try04:17
asacif it doesn't remove revisions04:17
asacthen its fine04:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets try04:17
asaci only use it to reset modified files04:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr revert M configure04:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the output04:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now pushing04:18
asacno04:18
asaclook at what it did first04:18
asace.g. use bzr log04:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah yea04:18
asacis there a new revision?04:18
asacwhat did it do?04:18
asacif you did not add a comment then it probably didn't do what you want04:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) did nothing04:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) maybe bzr revert -m "message"04:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nope04:19
asacactually i am pretty sure revert is not what we want04:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm....you're right04:20
asac(i alreday tried it as its called revert in git)04:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I see no changesd04:20
asacmaybe you can pass parameters?04:20
asacactually i can't believe that there is no such command in default bzr04:21
asacbut i don't see the command04:21
asacso i just do it by hand :)04:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D04:21
asacin svn you use merge to do it04:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr diff then04:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr diff which variables uses?04:22
asacyeah you can definitly use bzr diff -r... | something | somethingelse04:22
asacuse bzr help04:22
asacto figure out04:22
asacbzr help <command>04:22
asaccan always be used04:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: where should the diff be stored?04:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok, I have the diff04:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: how can I apply it now to the branch?04:27
asacyou can either put it to some file04:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah04:27
asacor just pipe into the command that reversed + applies your changes :)04:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I have it on a file now04:27
asacsee above ... i do all with a single pipe expression04:27
asacbluekuja: if you have file you have to apply the patch reversed04:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm...04:28
asachow to do that is in your hands :)04:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and then push04:28
asaccommit04:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes04:28
asacverify that it does what you want04:28
asacthen finally push and tell me :)04:28
asaccomment that you reverted a checkin and name what checkin was reverted04:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok04:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: rules changes04:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) go in another checkin right?04:29
asacdepends about what they are04:31
asace.g. if you change something in rules because you removed some file04:31
asacboth changes would go into the same checkin04:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope, added content04:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in our case04:31
asacwhat content?04:31
asacdid we add?04:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) --sysconfdif variable04:32
asacyeah nm04:32
asacif you just changed rules04:32
asacthen its a distinct checkin ... yes04:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok04:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: done04:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) everything pushed04:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you can try to build04:43
asacbluekuja: will try after developer team meeting04:46
asac@schedule04:46
(ubotu/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Schedule for Etc/UTC: 31 May 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 31 May 21:00: Kubuntu Developers | 05 Jun 19:00: Technical Board | 06 Jun 20:00: Edubuntu | 07 Jun 20:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jun 15:00: Kernel Team04:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)04:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: gonna have a break04:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ping me when done04:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) @schedule rome04:47
(ubotu/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Schedule for Europe/Rome: 31 May 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 31 May 23:00: Kubuntu Developers | 05 Jun 21:00: Technical Board | 06 Jun 22:00: Edubuntu | 07 Jun 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jun 17:00: Kernel Team04:47
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: back05:33
asacyes meeting is over as well :/05:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) aww05:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm leaving in 30-40 mins05:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) can we finish ?05:36
asaclookin05:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) perfect05:37
asaci don't get why you choose ${prefix}/share as sysconfdir05:37
asacdo other packages do the same?05:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: that dir is specified for gconf schemas05:38
asacyes right05:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gconf schemas are stored in usr/share05:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)05:38
asacbut that doesn'tmean that sysconfdir is that place05:38
asacbut let me look05:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its specified only for schemas05:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in configure05:39
asacok in cdbs helper mk files DEB_CONFIGURE_SYSCONFDIR =/etc05:40
asacso its probably not right to use it for that purpose05:40
asacwhere is the schema file declared in Makefile.am ?05:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: data/makefile.am05:43
asachow?05:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: they are not decalred05:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *declared05:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: we can verify final deb to see if all files are installed properly05:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to see if sysconfdir05:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) set to /usr/share05:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) modify the package itself05:48
asache?05:48
asacit certainly modifies package05:48
asaci can see the result05:48
asacin debian/diff-ext/...05:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah05:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: so we need to find a workaround05:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to have schemas in /usr/share05:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and other files in /etc05:50
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Lutin, :)05:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Lutin, please https://launchpad.net/~motu-torrent05:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is there a way to have that ?05:52
Lutinbluekuja: just idling around for the moment, I'm on exams and then will be away for 6 weeks. not the perfect time for becoming member in any team05:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Lutin, oh ok :) you can stay in the channel05:53
asacbluekuja: i think the problem is in Makefile.am05:53
asacit should never use $(sysconfdir)05:53
asacbut something like05:53
asac$(datadir)05:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: right05:53
asacso fix Makefile.am05:54
asacand you are done05:54
asacno tweaking of sysconfdir needed in configure invocation05:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: wait, you mean data/ma.. or datadir/make?05:54
asac(other than setting to /etc for future use)05:54
asacread above05:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, but there are something like 4 makefile.am05:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in upstream dir05:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) data/makefile.am05:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) po/makefile.am05:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you mean the one in ./05:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I dont see any sysconfdir there05:57
asachmm05:57
asacits interesting05:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its made all with configure05:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its not nice, but its made that way05:57
asacits in aclocal.m405:58
asacok05:59
asacits a bug imo05:59
asacbut we have to live with it05:59
asacit appears that GCONF macros have that as default05:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea05:59
asacyou can overwrite it with configure option:05:59
asac./configure --help ??05:59
asactake a loog05:59
asaclook05:59
asacthere is an optio for what we want06:00
asacyou specify the right dir ... done06:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: --with-gconf-source=sourceaddress Config database for installing schema files.06:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no sorry06:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) --with-gconf-schema-file-dir=dir Directory for installing schema files.06:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) copied previous line06:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sorry06:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and we are done06:01
asacy06:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fixing06:01
asacat least for this problem :)06:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yep06:01
asacactually i think that the default is proper06:02
asacbecause /etc/gconf/ might work as well06:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: lintian warning for it06:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) --with-gconf-schema-file-dir=\$${prefix}/share06:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) added06:02
asacbut since its not what the user usually edits it doesn't belong there06:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea06:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I've added that variable06:03
asacplease double check that it does what we want06:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea06:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let me build06:03
asacdrop sysconfdir tweaking of course06:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea06:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)06:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) building06:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: E: diff-ext: file-directly-in-usr-share usr/share/diff-ext.schemas06:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) we should specify full path06:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for it06:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so prefix/share/gconf/schemas06:05
asacyeah06:05
asacwrong dir you choose06:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup06:05
asac$(sysconfdir)/gconf/schemas ... it was06:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, I used prefix06:06
asacyou might use datadir :)06:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: why sysconfdir?06:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it will place them in usr/etc06:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and thats bad06:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) instead of normal path06:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) /usr/share/gconf/schemas06:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I'll use prefix/share/gconf/schemas06:07
asaci said "it was"06:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and we're done06:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah sorry06:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)06:07
asac+ you might use datadir06:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) misunderstood06:07
asac:)06:07
asacnp06:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) datadir ?06:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its the variable for?06:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *in our case*06:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/share?06:08
asacits: "architecture independent data directory"06:09
asacwhich is /usr/share06:09
asacby default06:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea, ok06:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) perfect06:09
asacread automake manual06:10
asacthere are other variables as well06:10
asaclike pkgdatadir06:10
asacas well as architecture dependent files et al06:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok06:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fixing06:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) building06:12
asacfine06:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lintian clean06:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/share/gconf/schemas/06:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/share/gconf/schemas/diff-ext.schemas06:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: pushed and published06:16
asacif everything is fine i will upload06:16
asacshort breakj06:16
asacnow06:16
asacsorry06:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: awww06:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) leaving06:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in 5 mins06:17
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) wont be here this evening, I have a match06:17
asacno problem :) ... i don't think we have a real hurry06:17
asacand most likely everything is ok06:17
asacif i need to fix something tiny, i can do that06:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope, I'll try to get online late evning06:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)06:17
asacotherwise tomorrow06:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) like midnight06:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you'll be here?06:18
asacno idea06:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)06:18
asacdepends on my mood06:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hehehe06:18
asac:)06:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: perfect, good break06:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and see you later06:19
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl06:19
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bluekuja_laptopasac: back06:51
bluekuja_laptopstill having a break or returned?06:51
asac18:17 < bluekuja> asac: nope, I'll try to get online late evning06:57
asac:)06:57
bluekuja_laptopasac: I forgot that I have my laptop here06:57
asacwhere?06:57
bluekuja_laptopuncle's house06:57
bluekuja_laptop^^06:58
asacah06:58
asacyou moved pretty fast06:58
bluekuja_laptopyeah, its something like 5-6 km from my home06:58
bluekuja_laptopI thought to have dinner before the match06:58
asacah06:58
asacwhat kind of match is that?06:58
bluekuja_laptopand they said me "no, we will go after"06:59
bluekuja_laptopbasketball :)06:59
asacah ... cool. have fun :)06:59
bluekuja_laptopthanks! :)06:59
bluekuja_laptopdo you like it?06:59
asaci queued this back because you told me that you will come back earliest late06:59
asacbluekuja_laptop: kind of ... i played a bit when i was young ... but never in a real team07:00
bluekuja_laptopasac: oh :D well, I have 30 mins now, if dont have to eat07:00
asacwhat position?07:00
asacdo you play?07:00
bluekuja_laptopasac: guard07:00
bluekuja_laptop:)07:00
asaccool07:00
asacgo ahead07:00
bluekuja_laptopI'm not so tall07:00
bluekuja_laptoponly 1.90 cm07:01
bluekuja_laptop^^07:01
bluekuja_laptop*19007:01
bluekuja_laptopasac: what about you?07:02
asacprobably the reason why i never tried basketball seriously :)07:02
asac18207:02
asac190 is decent for a guard position :)07:02
pochubluekuja_laptop: good luck in your match :)07:03
bluekuja_laptoppochu, thanks! :)07:04
bluekuja_laptopasac: well, that's good for a man07:04
bluekuja_laptoppochu: is the tallest07:04
bluekuja_laptop200 cm07:04
bluekuja_laptop^^07:04
asacpeople much taller than 190 get problems07:05
asacwith their back et al07:05
bluekuja_laptoplol07:05
bluekuja_laptopyea07:05
asaceven with the bed :)07:05
bluekuja_laptopthat's true07:05
bluekuja_laptopahha07:05
bluekuja_laptop:D07:05
asaci already have problems with my body because i played tennis alot07:05
asacif i would have been 200 ... i probably couldn't move anymore07:06
bluekuja_laptopasac: lol07:06
pochubluekuja_laptop: 200? who?07:06
bluekuja_laptoppochu: you :P07:06
pochulol07:06
bluekuja_laptop:D07:06
pochuI'm ~18307:07
bluekuja_laptoplike asac07:07
bluekuja_laptop:D07:07
bluekuja_laptopasac: fische developer answered07:15
asacabout what?07:15
bluekuja_laptopabout build system07:16
asacarch independence?07:16
bluekuja_laptopand about bzr07:16
bluekuja_laptope.g maintaining it in lp07:16
asacsummary? forward?07:16
bluekuja_laptopasac: summary is :07:17
bluekuja_laptop1) he wants to use bzr with co-devels07:17
bluekuja_laptop2) he wants to use the build system I created07:17
bluekuja_laptop3)is REALLY happy for my work07:17
asaccool07:17
bluekuja_laptopthat's all :)07:17
asacreally cool07:17
asacwell done!07:17
bluekuja_laptop:)07:17
asacbluekuja_laptop: hope you mentor him a bit on bzr use :)07:18
bluekuja_laptopasac: of course...he said Up to today I had never heard about bzr07:18
bluekuja_laptopI'll need to start explaining from the base07:18
bluekuja_laptopof bzr07:18
bluekuja_laptop^^07:18
bluekuja_laptopand launchpad too07:18
asacsure ... show him how he branch from the original fische tree his own private one07:18
asacthen show him how he can pull over patches we have for build system from our branch07:19
asace.g. that should convince him :)07:19
bluekuja_laptopasac: should I tell him to use the branch I created or indipendent?07:19
asacand gives you excersize as well :)07:19
asacthe idea is that he is the upstream author and maintains his own branch (without debian)07:19
asache can probably start from your07:19
asacs07:20
asacdo we have two branches?07:20
asacor just one?07:20
asacat best tell him he should branch the initial revision from your branch and then try to merge over the other changes you did07:20
bluekuja_laptopasac: two07:20
bluekuja_laptopok07:20
bluekuja_laptopsounds good07:20
asace.g. good as an excersize and to feel how it works07:21
bluekuja_laptopyeah, so he can take a look to autotools files i created07:21
bluekuja_laptope.g build system07:21
asacyes ... he can merge your changes into his local copy07:21
asacand then review and push to his branch as well07:21
bluekuja_laptopso he can implement it for next releases07:21
bluekuja_laptopexactly07:21
asacbzr should be smart enough to recognize these if you later merge from his branch07:22
asace.g. so it doesn't get confused because he has checkins that you have as well :)07:22
asacbluekuja_laptop: right07:22
bluekuja_laptopI gonna tell him to create a new branch, start first revision from mine and then I'll merge with new releases07:22
bluekuja_laptopwhen he will do one07:22
asacbluekuja_laptop: yes07:22
bluekuja_laptopsounds great07:22
bluekuja_laptopasac: when diff-ext will be uploaded, gonna package kdiff-ext too07:23
bluekuja_laptopand mail upstream07:23
bluekuja_laptopfor bzr07:23
bluekuja_laptoptoo07:23
asacfine fine07:23
asacok ... got to work a bit07:23
asacthen get out of here for a whil07:24
bluekuja_laptopasac: yeah, will leave in 30 mins :)07:24
bluekuja_laptopasac: gonna ping you tomorrow morning07:24
bluekuja_laptoplike 11-12 :)07:24
asacfine07:27
asaci am here from 907:27
bluekuja_laptopasac: sounds great07:29
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pochuls09:54
pochubluekuja, asac: so how's libtorrent going? Will we get it [soon]  ?09:55
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bluekuja_laptoppochu, back12:42
bluekuja_laptopI'm leaving, I REALLY need to sleep12:42
bluekuja_laptoppochu: gonna talk about libtorrent12:43
bluekuja_laptoptomorro12:43
bluekuja_laptopcya and gnight12:43
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-dmwaters(i=dmwaters@freenode/staff/dmwaters)- {global notice} Good day all. In about an hour i'm going to begin maintenence on 3 main rotation servers that have been out of rotation for a while. These servers have been out of rotation for a while, but the impact will still be a bit rough. About 2200 users will be effected.04:10
!dmwaters:*! Good day folks, time for that upgrade i talked about earlier, first server to reboot has about 700 users on it.05:05
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!dmwaters:*! Next server has 945 users on it.05:06
!dmwaters:*! Ok, last server folks, about 450 users.05:07
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hi all10:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)10:32
asacola10:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ola10:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)10:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) how are you?10:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: please #42696010:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) on debia10:35
asacoha10:38
asaci failed10:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is he right?10:38
asacyes10:39
asaccan you try if it works with gnutls?10:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course10:39
asacotherwise upstream would have to grant exception to link against openssl10:39
asacbut i think it should work with gnutls10:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let me grab the source10:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and change it10:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: using libcurl4-gnutls-dev works10:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm adding the entry to the changelog10:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I pass all the files to you10:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so you can check, and then I close the bug10:47
asacbluekuja: please confirm with ldd that its linked against libcurl10:57
asacand verify that depends of produced bin package points to libcurl-gnutls as well10:57
asacthen push to bzr10:57
asaci will push10:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) all with ldd?10:57
asacadd (Closes: BUGID) to changelog10:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the things you told me10:58
asacno ... first verify that binary is linked against right lib (ldd)10:58
asacthen look with dpkg -l ... or in DEBIAN/control10:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok10:58
asacfor depends10:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oki10:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac; bitstormlite10:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is not in bzr10:58
asacnot?10:58
asachmm10:58
asacok10:58
asacmaybe we should change that in future10:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac.tar.gz10:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :P10:58
asacok10:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: urgency?11:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) medium?11:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or low11:03
asaclow11:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok11:12
asac... as the package is not in testing/stable11:12
asacthere is no reason for higher urgency11:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah11:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: links correctly11:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) libcurl-gnutls.so.4 (CURL_GNUTLS_4) => /usr/lib/libcurl-gnutls.so.411:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) using ldd11:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) libssl is no more then11:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *there11:24
asaccool11:26
asacyou use it on binary right?11:26
asacsend me ... and for my convenience a debdiff11:26
asacof the new and old version11:26
asacso i don't need to review in detail11:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yea, on bitstormlite11:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) binary11:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) file11:26
asack11:26
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DarkSun88Hi all11:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya11:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: sent11:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) should be arrived11:35
asacyeah retrieved it11:38
asachave to finish firefox gutsy build11:39
asacthen i will update yours11:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: sounds great11:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) check if everything is correct11:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to be sure11:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: there will be soon a new fische release with my build system11:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :P11:40
asacyeah :)11:42
asachope he gives you the credits you deserve :)11:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, I hope so! :)11:44
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: how its going?12:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is firefox build really long?12:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g azureus12:14
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hi vorian12:14
vorianhey bluekuja :)12:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) how its going with packaging?12:15
voriansheesh12:15
vorianI need help12:15
vorian:)12:15
asacbluekuja: have to check on all distros et al12:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) have you selected a source to package?12:15
asacpita work12:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: oh ok :)12:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: this afternoon we check diff-ext12:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it should be ok12:16
asacbluekuja: even worse: all, dapper, edgy, feisty, gutsy packages are out of synch12:16
vorianbluekuja, I tried following the directions on packaging the "hello" program12:16
voriananyway,12:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: thats not nice12:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D12:16
asacso i have to take care for corner-cases by case12:16
vorianI'm just lurking for now. Time to go to work :)12:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) vorian, oh ok! try to get a source and package it...hello program is just an example12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)12:17
vorianah12:17
vorianI will give that a shot here in a bit.12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sounds good12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let me know if you have any question12:17
vorianwill do!12:18
vorianthanks :)12:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)12:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) np12:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I need to restart my pc12:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nautilus keep crashing12:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) without logs12:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) -.-12:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) brb12:19
asacok ... doing lunch in a few12:37
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bluekuja_laptopasac: my desktop pc has been broken with last security update01:10
bluekuja_laptopasac: when I select an icon on my desktop, it become blank...01:11
bluekuja_laptopand nautilus doesnt work01:11
bluekuja_laptopcpu 100 %01:11
bluekuja_laptopdamn01:11
asacwhat update?01:12
bluekuja_laptoplibfreetype01:12
bluekuja_laptopand some others package01:12
bluekuja_laptoplike python-gnome01:12
asacfeisty?01:12
bluekuja_laptopyeah01:12
asacare you in -bugs?01:13
bluekuja_laptopyea01:13
asacis there noise about that?01:13
asacmybe ask there01:13
bluekuja_laptopits for sure a font problem01:14
bluekuja_laptopneed to get previous libfreetype01:14
bluekuja_laptopand see if it solve01:14
asacbug #11792201:15
(ubotu/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Launchpad bug 117922 in nautilus "changing directories becomes increasingly slow, and eventually crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11792201:15
asac?01:15
asaclast nautilus crash report i see01:15
bluekuja_laptopI got it too01:15
bluekuja_laptopbut I get something worst01:16
bluekuja_laptopasac: I'm leaving, be back later, so we can finish the work01:25
bluekuja_laptop;)01:25
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asaclunchy munchy01:37
bluekuja_laptopback02:21
bluekuja_laptopI just went home and I'm completely wet02:22
bluekuja_laptop: /02:22
asacbslite building02:25
bluekuja_laptopasac: great02:26
bluekuja_laptopI need to save gpg, ssh keys02:27
bluekuja_laptopon my desktop02:27
bluekuja_laptopand format everything02:27
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asacpushed afaij02:34
asack02:34
bluekuja_laptopasac: great! :) do you have a minute for diff-ext too?02:34
asacprobably02:35
bluekuja_laptop:)02:35
asacwill try to inqueue that ;)02:35
bluekuja_laptop:D02:35
asacprinject02:35
asac;)02:35
bluekuja_laptopasac: is there a way to import firefox password?02:35
bluekuja_laptop*passwords02:35
asacdo you see how your question is not clear?02:35
bluekuja_laptope.g I enter in a site that requires authentication, I put my pwd and it saves it02:36
bluekuja_laptopinto firefox automatically02:36
asacyes, and?02:36
bluekuja_laptopneed to know if i can import them like bookmarks02:36
bluekuja_laptopin a file02:36
bluekuja_laptope.g xml or html02:37
asaclook for .db files in your profile02:37
bluekuja_laptop*export02:37
asacthose contain the data02:37
bluekuja_laptopok02:37
asacexport is much better question :)02:37
asacnot that i know of02:37
asacbut the files are there and they use some standard (though binary) format02:37
bluekuja_laptopok, I'll try to take a look02:38
bluekuja_laptopfound an addon02:39
bluekuja_laptopasac: is there a way to install icedove in ubuntu?03:31
asacspin and build03:32
asacbuild and install i mean :)03:32
bluekuja_laptopby source then03:32
bluekuja_laptop:)03:32
asacyeah ... don't thinks it has been synched :)03:32
bluekuja_laptopok great03:32
asacyou wanna fix enigmail :)03:34
bluekuja_laptopwhats the problem there?03:34
asacits basically just switching build depends :)03:34
asacbecause buildds don't try as you can see on buildd.debian.org03:34
asachttp://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=enigmail03:35
bluekuja_laptopswitching depends?03:35
bluekuja_laptopwhy?03:35
asaclook at build-depends03:35
asacthen you will see03:35
asaci tried to make it build against icedove and thunderbird :)03:36
asacanyway ... i think i should just fix it03:36
asacbecause its just a matter of 2 seconds :)03:36
bluekuja_laptopasac: I can do it if you want03:36
asacthe idea is to get enigmail synched from debian again03:36
bluekuja_laptopnp for it03:36
asacno ... makes no sense :) ... its just 2 seconds:)03:36
bluekuja_laptopoh oki^^03:37
bluekuja_laptopi'm waiting your response to move packaging kdiff-ext03:37
bluekuja_laptopand then I'll package mined03:37
bluekuja_laptop(orphaned in debian)03:37
bluekuja_laptopand back of 3 versions03:37
bluekuja_laptop10.3 on debian 13 on upstream03:38
bluekuja_laptop:P03:38
asacwhy not just go ahead03:38
asacyou don't need to wait for me03:38
bluekuja_laptopneed to see if its right03:39
bluekuja_laptope.g changes to the build system03:39
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bluekujajavierder, how its going?04:14
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bluekuja|Element|, Hi :)04:15
bluekujaasac: kdiff got the same setup of diff04:17
bluekujathat's nice04:17
bluekuja^^04:17
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bluekujanuu: ;)04:58
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bluekujajavamaniac, hey :)05:04
nuuhi bluekuja :)05:11
bluekujanuu: hello :)05:11
bluekujafeel free to ask if you get any problem05:12
bluekujawhile packaging05:12
bluekuja;)05:12
nuuthanks, will do :)05:18
bluekuja:)05:21
bluekujaasac: which deps may be missing here:05:23
bluekujahttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/8077305:23
asacsomething kde related :)05:24
asacyou will figure out05:24
asaci have no concrete package in mind05:25
bluekujaasac: thanks for kde hint05:25
bluekujachecking05:25
asacactually configure should fail if its needed and doesn't exist05:25
asacprobably a build system bug05:25
bluekujaasac: yeah, configure doesnt point out05:25
asacor you use is wrong05:25
asacmaybe you force configure to something ... i can't tell from here05:25
bluekujaasac: for now configure is debhelper default05:26
bluekujaso only with mandir and infodir05:26
bluekujaforced05:26
asack05:27
asacfigure out build depend ;) is good enough for now05:27
asacconfigure fix is more welcome of course :)05:27
asacbut first you have to understand whats missing anyway05:27
bluekujayeah05:28
bluekujaneed to find out what is it05:28
bluekujapaying attention to libssl05:28
bluekujae.g kde-devel depends on libssl05:28
bluekujaasac: found05:49
bluekuja:)05:49
bluekujaasac: I'm trying to see if it builda against libssl05:51
bluekujaI hope so05:52
asacwhy libssl?05:53
bluekujakdelibs depends on libssl05:53
bluekujaneed to find a workaround for it05:53
bluekujaasac: dep missing for libkonq^^05:54
asacwill be back later05:54
bluekujaoki05:56
bluekuja:)05:56
!BearPerson:*! hi guys. er, we just lost a main rotation server... nobody quite knows where it went, but we're sending out search teams and should have it back soon. Sorry about the bump, and thank you for flying freenode!05:59
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bluekujaasac: unfortunately libkonq4 directly depends on libssl07:36
bluekuja:/07:36
asacwhat license realm are we in?07:36
asacwhat is licensed in which way?07:36
bluekujabsd07:37
asacwhat kind of bsd?07:37
asactell license of all depends as well07:38
bluekujaasac: the package is under bsd07:38
bluekujaupstream files07:39
asacwhich bsd variant?07:39
asac2,3,4 clause?07:39
bluekuja2 clause07:39
asack07:39
asacwhat about depends?07:39
asacanything GPL?07:39
bluekujalet me see07:39
bluekujaasac: libkonq07:40
bluekujahttp://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kdebase/kdebase_3.5.7-1/libkonq4-dev.copyright07:40
asacwhy should i read this?07:41
bluekujathats the dep07:42
asacso which license has libkonq ?07:42
bluekujaLGPL07:43
bluekujaasac: is it ok?07:45
asacthink so07:45
bluekujaasac: ok great07:46
bluekujaso I'm able to package it07:46
asaclibssl is openssl lib?07:46
bluekujayes07:46
asacthere is a compatibility lib for gnutls ... you could try that07:46
asac(mainly to see if that works)07:46
bluekujaah yea07:47
bluekujaasac: but if libkond depends on libssl07:47
bluekujaand I use as dep gnutls one07:47
bluekujawill it build against libssl?07:48
asaclibkonq depends on openssl?07:55
asacbluekuja: it will not build against gnutls unless you change configure.xx or Makefile.am07:58
asacdepends on how authors did add the libssl link flags07:58
bluekujaasac: yeah. right07:59
bluekujaasac: libkonq depends on libssl07:59
asacin addition you need changed depends07:59
asacyeah that is bad07:59
bluekujayea07:59
asacdoes libkonq has an exception that it can be linked against libssl?07:59
bluekujanope07:59
asace.g. the license07:59
asacis that in debian as well?07:59
bluekujayeah07:59
asachave you actually looked at the code?07:59
asace.g. what its in the libkonq license headers?08:00
bluekujaasac: not yet08:00
bluekujahttp://packages.debian.org/unstable/libdevel/libkonq4-dev08:00
bluekujalibkonq depends on kdelibs08:00
bluekujathat depends on libssl08:00
bluekujalibkonq is indirectly depended on libssl08:01
bluekujabut its bad too08:01
asaci have no idea08:02
bluekujaasac: I dont use kde...so I wont maintain it in the proper way...so we can leave it08:03
asacactually i endorse to use gnutls to avoid this kind of brain gym08:03
asacbluekuja: good idea08:03
asackde world is a total mess imo :-P08:03
bluekujayeah08:03
bluekujaI dont like to package kde08:03
bluekujaapplications08:03
bluekujabecause I simply dont use them08:03
bluekuja:P08:03
asacy08:04
bluekujaasac: I adopted a package08:04
asacdid you follow procedure?08:04
asacso how many packages do you plan do maintain?08:04
bluekujayeah, I changed to ITA from O in BTS08:04
bluekujaand set me as owner08:04
bluekujaasac: I think that 6-7 should be ok08:05
asacyou already have 708:05
bluekujamm...yea08:06
bluekujayou're right08:06
bluekujawell, the package I adopted today will be the last08:06
bluekuja*I think*08:06
asacyour packages are decently small08:06
asacso i think you take some more08:06
bluekujayea08:06
bluekujayea08:06
bluekujaexactly08:06
asacbut ... then remember that you have to take care for longer time then just a few month :)08:06
bluekujaasac: yeah, of course!08:07
asacso which package is your cash cow :)08:07
asace.g. popcon.debian.org08:07
asac;)08:07
bluekujaasac: gnome-bt08:08
asacprobably gnome-btdownload08:08
asacyeah08:08
bluekuja:)08:08
bluekujais in ubuntu's main too08:08
asacso verlihub is adopted?08:08
asacyeah :)08:08
bluekujayeah, verlihub will be huge08:08
bluekujaa lot of users use it08:08
bluekujaits the most appreciated hub software08:09
asaccool08:09
asachopefully its buggy as well08:09
bluekujalol08:09
asachaving a good bug tracking record is important for NM :)08:09
bluekujayeah, exactly08:09
asacbut usually bug reports come in with users :)08:09
bluekujaexactly08:09
bluekuja:)08:09
bluekujaasac: mined (the packaged I adopted today) is big too08:10
asacwhy?08:10
asacwhat size has it?08:10
bluekujae.g lot of users08:10
asacah .. i read too big ... not big too :)08:10
bluekuja:D08:10
bluekujaI'm leaving08:10
bluekujasee you on sunday08:10
bluekuja:)08:10
asacyeah ... maybe i am here08:10
bluekujaasac: great, so we can work with mined08:11
bluekujato push it08:11
bluekujacya!08:11
asacbluekuja: at best you bring it to releasable state08:11
asacthen i have not much work :)08:11
bluekujaasac: lol08:11
bluekujaI will08:11
bluekujadont worry08:11
bluekujacya sunday!08:11
bluekuja;)08:11
asacbye08:11
asac!08:11
asac;)08:11
asacor monday08:12
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DarkSun88G'night12:38
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DarkSun88Hi all11:34
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DarkSun88Hi07:42
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fsatelerhi there. you guys already packaged libtorrent-rasterbar?10:36
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pochufsateler: not yet :/12:42
fsatelerI have made a pacakge for it12:43
fsatelerhttp://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libtorrent-rasterbar12:44
fsateleryou may want to check it before starting from scratch12:44
pochufsateler: we looked at it, and it would be really fine if it were uploaded to Debian.12:45
pochufsateler: Do you have any problem with it, or is it just a lack of sponsors?12:45
fsatelerindeed... but I haven't found a sponsor yet :(12:46
pochuHave you mailed debian-sponsors?12:46
fsateleryes, twice12:46
pochuOr maybe ask on IRC on OFTC12:46
fsatelerI'll try that12:47
pochuUnfortunately I'm not a DD, so I can't help you with that :/12:47
fsatelerandrea veri sent me a mail in which (s?)he said that there was a soname problem... which problem is that?12:48
pochufsateler: We have been discusing here about libtorrent.12:48
pochuYes. bluekuja, ping?12:48
pochufsateler: There are two problem, afaik. One is that upstream doesn't care too much about other systems but Windows.12:49
pochuThe other is that the library has the same name than the other libtorrent, so they would conflict.12:49
pochuWe have asked him to rename it.12:49
pochuSo both libraries can be installed at the same time.12:50
fsatelerthey don't need to.. since they have differen SO version they can coexist12:50
fsateler-dev packages would have to conflict, though12:50
pochuDifferent SO?12:50
pochuSorry, I'm not good with libraries :)12:51
pochuasac: Do we have any news regarding libtorrent?12:51
fsatelera library has a version encoded in it, which is normally different from the version one nomrally talks about12:51
pochuasac: fsateler owns the Debian ITP, so it would be fine to work together :)12:51
fsatelerit is used to ensure binary compatibility12:52
pochufsateler: the Soname?12:52
fsateleryes12:52
fsatelerrasterbar's soname is libtorrent012:52
asacpochu: don't tell that to me :)12:52
pochuBut libtorrent-rastebar doesn't use it, afaik.12:52
fsatelerthe so version is 012:52
pochuasac: why? :)12:52
asaci i think bluekaja should ask upstream/debian maintainer12:52
asacpochu: i meant the second question only12:53
asacthe first is valid of course :)12:53
pochuSo, are there any news then? :)12:53
asaci have no exact news. Only that hydri was open to change his attitude12:53
pochuThat's good.12:53
asacand wanted to reconsider the soname thing12:53
pochuAnd regarding non-windows environments?12:54
asac... actually right after I gave up and told him that it makes no sense ... so probably a bit pressure helped :)12:54
fsatelerthe other libtorrent has a libtorrent10 soname, so there isn't really a conflict there12:54
asacpochu: i am not waiting for them to release something. If we don't hear anything in about 1-2 weeks we should probably ping them ;)12:56
asacs/am not/am now/12:56
pochuAnyway that's ugly.12:56
pochuasac: ok :)12:56
pochufsateler: anyway, it would be fine if you could fine a sponsor :)12:57
fsatelerit seems it is not that easy...12:57
pochuIt's for me (two packages without problems).12:58
pochuThough they were python packages, and I asked in #debian-python ;)12:58
pochuBut there's no #debian-torrent, or #debian-p2p, is there?12:59
pochuThat's a pity :(12:59
fsatelerseems like there isn't01:00
DarkSun88G'Night01:20
asaci am out for night ... maybe someone can explain to reporter of bug 118393 how to install dbgsym packages before doing getting a local backtrace ;)01:22
(ubotu/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Launchpad bug 118393 in ktorrent "ktorrent somtimes crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11839301:22
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pochufsateler: If you're around tomorrow, we could speak with bluekuja regarding libtorrent.02:43
fsatelerI'll try to be around.. although I usually don't IRC so I may forget to open it :p02:44
pochuYou can add it to the startup applications :)02:46
fsatelergood idea02:50
fsatelerdone!02:52
pochu:)02:52
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DarkSun88Hi all02:37
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bluekujahi all guys06:01
bluekujaasac: :)06:02
asachi06:03
bluekujaasac: a guy is talking about libtorrent06:05
bluekujain -motu06:05
pochuhey bluekuja06:06
bluekujahey pochu06:06
bluekujahow are you?06:06
pochuhave you read the conversation with the debian packager for libtorrent-rastebar?06:06
pochuFine, thanks :)06:06
bluekujapochu: not yet, is on this channel or -motu?06:07
pochuIn this one06:07
pochuRead backwards ^ ;)06:07
bluekujaoki06:07
bluekuja:)06:08
bluekujaasac: I told you to dont use REVU for libtorrent06:11
bluekujalol06:11
bluekuja<bashelier> bluekuja: ok, so why did you put it on revu exactly ?06:11
bluekuja<bashelier> alexises: what for ? :)06:11
bluekuja^^06:11
asacwhy not?06:19
asacwhat is revu for if not for this?06:20
bluekujaasac: because in fact it was just a test06:20
bluekujasee what he said in -motu06:21
bluekujaanyway I have archived it06:21
asacno :) ... no time/no will to read that now ;)06:21
asacits sunday06:21
bluekujalol06:21
bluekujaasac: :D06:21
bluekujaasac: did you have fun yesterday?06:21
bluekuja*night06:21
asacyeah ... train trip :)06:21
asaclinuxtag was nice :)06:21
asacbut i had to go back right after06:22
bluekuja:)06:22
asacdebian bug 42737306:22
(ubotu/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Debian bug 427373 in icedove "Parsing error for usernames with symbol "@"" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/42737306:22
asacsome people are plain crazy06:22
asaci mean some hosters06:23
asaci @ even a valid character in a mailname06:23
asac?06:23
bluekujaasac: aww06:23
bluekujausername using @06:23
bluekujais bad06:23
asacyeah06:24
bluekujabut unfortunately some hosters use it06:24
bluekuja:/06:24
asacthey are nuts06:24
bluekujalol06:24
bluekujayea06:24
bluekujait will be fixed?06:24
asacat least to force it06:25
asacno idea06:25
asaci even don't know if there is such a bug :)06:25
asacwanna test?06:25
asacwith thunderbird 2?06:25
bluekujaasac: yea06:25
asacther is an account :)06:25
asacgiven06:25
bluekujaasac: downloading it06:27
bluekujaasac: do I have to test it in debian?06:37
bluekujaneed to re-install it06:37
bluekujaif yes06:37
asacbluekuja: you can test thunderbird 2 in ubuntu06:41
asacfor now :)06:41
bluekujaasac: ok, great, gonna update to gutsy06:41
bluekujajust a moment06:42
bluekujaasac: later today, I gonna open a new branch for mined06:42
bluekujaI've remade the patch system06:42
bluekujaand packaged the new version06:42
asacbluekuja: license checked already?06:42
asacbluekuja: ITP open?06:43
asacbluekuja: you sure you want mined?06:43
bluekujaasac: yeah, is the package I adopted06:43
bluekujawith new upload, it wont be in orpahened packages for more06:43
asacbluekuja: good06:43
bluekujaasac: yeah, license is ok06:43
bluekujait was in testing already06:44
asacbluekuja: that doesn't mean much :)06:44
asacis upstream decent?06:44
asacit makes no sense to adopt something that has lost upstream06:44
bluekujaasac: yea06:44
bluekujaasac: it seems a package really used06:45
bluekujaand with some bugs06:45
bluekujatoo06:45
bluekuja^^06:45
asaccool06:45
bluekujagood for NM06:46
bluekujatests06:46
asacgood06:46
pochuNM?06:46
pochuNew Maintainer?06:46
asacy06:46
pochu:)06:46
bluekujayea :)06:46
pochugo bluekuja go! :)06:46
bluekujapochu: :D06:47
asaci am sure, i can boost things up :)06:47
asacoh wait ;)06:47
asache06:48
asaci just build thunderbird 1.5.0.1206:48
asac... started.06:48
asacwhat happened 2.0 :)06:48
asacah .. wrong chroot06:48
bluekuja:D06:49
bluekujaupdating laptop to gutsy06:49
asacpoor laptop :)06:50
asacgets a primate ;)06:50
bluekuja:D06:51
bluekujaother pc is down for hardware problems06:51
bluekujaneed to fix them^^06:51
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bluekujaasac: it requested a password07:06
bluekujaand it works07:06
asacintersesting07:15
bluekujaasac: that's strange07:16
bluekujaasac: mined upstream uses a debian dir inside07:16
bluekujaused by the previous maintainer07:16
bluekujashould I delete it?07:17
bluekujaand note it in README.Debian07:17
bluekujaor just in the chanelog07:17
asacworks for icedove in sid chroot as well07:18
asacthanks07:18
bluekujanp :)07:18
asacbluekuja: ask upstream if they want to officially maintain their debian dir in launchpad07:18
asacnad drop it from real upstream source tree07:18
bluekujaasac: ok, great07:19
bluekujaasac: gonna remove it then for my work07:19
bluekujaand note it to upstream07:19
asacyou can import without it to some "upstream" branch07:19
asacdo they use svn?07:19
bluekujaasac: mmm...it seems no07:20
asacwhat? cvs?07:20
bluekujaI cant see any link in upstream07:20
bluekujaasac: maybe its private07:20
bluekujain download are there's not any cvs/svn link07:21
bluekujato grab from07:21
asacprobably07:25
asacstrip of debian/ ... push to upstream branch07:25
asactell upstream, that they can now use bzr :)07:25
bluekujaasac: yeah, same as fische07:25
bluekujaI hope he will join irc soon07:25
asaclike "here it is ... have fun. If you want to import history, let us know :)"07:26
bluekujasounds good07:26
bluekuja:)07:26
asack be off for some07:29
bluekujaasac: ok07:29
bluekujagonna ping you later07:29
bluekuja;)07:29
asacmaybe i will not be back ... lets see :)07:36
bluekuja:d07:37
bluekujacya later07:37
bluekuja:)07:37
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bluekujaasac: I've pushed new branches09:10
bluekujaasac: do you have a minute to check it?09:11
bluekujahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/mined/debian.source09:11
bluekujahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/mined/upstream.source09:11
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bluekujaidefixs, hello :)09:39
idefixshi bluekuja09:39
bluekujaidefixs, need help?09:40
idefixsyes i do. with the build system for fische :)09:41
bluekujaidefixs, you're the fische developer?!09:41
bluekujawelcome!09:41
idefixsyep09:41
bluekujareally happy to see you !09:41
idefixsso am i09:41
bluekujaidefixs, let's talk about it09:42
idefixsi just tried anjuta to make the build system for me09:42
bluekujahttps://code.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/fische/main.autotools09:42
idefixsit somehow worked, however i cannot build a distribution tarball09:42
bluekujayou can start browsing the code09:43
bluekujathere09:43
idefixswhere can i find the current Makefile.am / configure.ac ?09:47
idefixsdisregard09:47
idefixsfound them09:47
bluekuja:)09:47
bluekujaI think that you can start checking out that branch09:48
bluekujastarting new releases with it09:48
idefixshow could I make the configure script check for mmx/sse capabilities and set the corresponding compiler flags?09:49
bluekujaidefixs, are mmx flags really needed?09:51
idefixsthis would be rather important, i believe09:51
idefixsthe -mmmx is not, but the -DMMX is, in the current implementation.09:51
bluekujaasac: -DMMX flags are bad?09:52
idefixsthere is a #ifdef in blur.c, that depends on -DMMX09:52
asacdunno09:52
asacdon't know what happens if no mmx is available on arch09:52
bluekujayeah09:52
bluekujathat's the problem09:52
idefixscompile fails in this case09:52
asacyeah ...09:53
bluekujawhich is quite bad09:53
asacso it won't build on any other arch then x86 derivatives09:53
idefixsit will, as long as you don't pass -DMMX09:53
asacit will what?09:53
asacfail to build?09:53
asacafaik it builds ;)09:53
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idefixsthere are two different blur functions, one with and one without mmx.09:54
idefixsdepending on DMMX the preprocessor chooses one of those functions09:54
asacyes09:54
asacand? will it slow things down ... how much? is it still usable then?09:54
idefixsit's usable, but slower.09:55
asachow much?09:55
asacwhat magnitude09:55
idefixsaround half the fps09:55
asacis that critical?09:55
asaci mean ... i would vouch to drop the flag now ( in order provide it on every architecture)09:56
idefixsnot really, but the more fps the better it looks09:56
asaclater maybe write some plugin extension that can do it ... e.g. if you have a i586++ you can install some package09:56
asacthat brings you that improvement09:56
asacidefixs: can you detect at runtime if MMX is available?09:57
idefixsi am sure that's possible, however i do not yet know how.09:57
bluekujaidefixs, is there a way to drop the flag ?09:58
bluekujafor now09:58
bluekujatrying to fix it in next releases09:58
bluekujawith plugins as suggested by asac09:58
asacbluekuja: you dropped the flag09:59
bluekujaasac: yea09:59
asacbecause you don't have it in automake .)09:59
asacso why do you ask for a "way"09:59
bluekujaasac: I mean directly in upstream09:59
idefixsyes of course. the program will build and run without the flag, not taking advantage of extended cpu capabilities09:59
asacidefixs: right ... later we autodetect that capability09:59
asacand load some lib that implements architecture automatized code09:59
bluekujaidefixs, did you read those guides for bzr?10:00
bluekujayou can use the branch I created to maintain your code10:00
idefixsi will look into the mplayer source. there is a mmx detection algorithm somewhere in there10:01
bluekujaor you can create a new one too10:01
bluekujaidefixs, sounds good10:01
bluekuja:)10:01
idefixsi am not yet familiar with bzr, however i just started to like the web interface10:01
bluekuja:)10:01
bluekujathe links I gave you will introduce you in bzr world10:02
nuuidefixs: you can check for mmx by grepping the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo for lowercase "mmx"10:02
idefixsnuu: thanks a lot!10:02
nuunp10:02
idefixswould it be better to detect at run- or compiletime, and why?10:03
nuuwhat are you building ?10:04
idefixseyecandy10:04
idefixsvery cpu-consuming10:05
bluekujaasac: did you have a look to mined?10:05
nuuwell generally speaking, i'd say that cpu features should be looked for in ./configure10:06
bluekujanuu: yea10:06
nuujust like every other system/installation requirement10:06
asacbluekuja: no ... not today10:06
asacbluekuja: hope you can live with that :)10:06
bluekujaasac: haha yes :)10:06
bluekujaasac: gonna ping you tomorrow then :P10:07
nuunevertheless, i don't know anything about eyecandy, so i wouldn't know what best applies to your specific case10:07
nuuhi bluekuja :)10:07
bluekuja:)10:07
asacbluekuja: tx10:07
bluekujaasac: np alex10:07
nuubbl10:07
bluekujanuu: cya later10:08
bluekuja;)10:08
bluekujaidefixs, let me know if you have any problem with bzr and/or with the build ssytem I created10:09
bluekujaso we can easily maintain source and debian dir10:09
asacidefixs: its not good to detect at compile time10:10
asacwe should just build an extension .so10:10
asacthat is dlopened or something if mmx is available10:10
bluekujanice idea10:10
asacof course this requires compile time checks as well as we cannot produce such a binary on non mmx hosts10:10
idefixshmmm...10:13
idefixsi can see how this helps binary distributions10:14
idefixsi'll keep showing up. cu + thanks!10:24
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bluekujaVorian, :)10:32
Vorianhello :)10:33
bluekujahow are you?10:33
VorianTired10:33
bluekuja:)10:33
bluekujastill tired from yesterday's parties?10:34
Vorianhehe10:34
VorianI don't party much anymore :)10:34
bluekujaVorian, how old are you? ^^10:35
Vorian3010:35
Vorianw/ 4 kids10:35
Vorianand a lovely wife :)10:35
bluekujacool!10:35
bluekujait's nice to hear that10:36
Vorian:)10:36
VorianI love my family :)10:36
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bluekujaVorian, how is your work(packaging) going?10:37
bluekujasome news?10:37
Vorianno news10:37
VorianIts been a busy week/end10:37
bluekujadid you read some guides?10:37
bluekujaoh :)10:37
bluekujadont worry then10:37
VorianI've read through the guides10:37
VorianI have a goal of packaging something by friday :)10:38
bluekujaVorian, great10:39
bluekujaI will be more than happy to help you10:39
bluekujahave you looked that your package is not in debian?10:39
Vorianwhich package is that?10:41
bluekujaVorian, oh I thought you decided a package already10:42
bluekujanvm then10:42
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Vorianah10:43
bluekujapochu: :)10:43
Vorianhey pochu :)10:43
bluekujapochu, we will have to check libtorrent again in the near future10:44
pochubluekuja: ok, cool :)11:18
bluekujapochu: so we can try to finish the work on it11:18
bluekujagnight all11:25
bluekujacu tomorrow11:25
pochugood night bluekuja11:26
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BugMaNhi all09:43
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-motu-torrent: Home of Ubuntu MOTU Torrent Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Torrent | Launchpad Homepage: https://launchpad.net/~motu-torrent | If interested in joining the team, please read Membership section in team's wiki page | Bug Triaging: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~motu-torrent/+packagebugs | Bzr branches: https://code.launchpad.net/~motu-torrent/
=== Topic (#ubuntu-motu-torrent): set by bluekuja at Tue May 22 23:04:22 2007
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah links are great :)12:46
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i will look after lunch12:46
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) first thing i will do12:46
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) are they lintian clean?12:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: they got some warnings, I dont know if we can skip them12:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 312:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/mined/debian.source12:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/mined/upstream.source12:47
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) warnings? ... at best fix all :)12:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://packages.linuxdc.it/unstable/result/mined_2000.13.2-1/mined_2000.13.2-1.lintian12:48
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: is there an lintian override ?12:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope12:49
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) first ... why is your standard version higher ?12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well 3.7.2 is the correct one12:50
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) u sure?12:50
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) k12:50
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) W: mined: manpage-has-errors-from-man usr/share/man/man1/mined.1.gz 1754: warning: can't find numbered character 17112:50
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) why not just fix that :)12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok, gonna fix it12:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is the only one, you want me to fix?12:51
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no12:51
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) every warning12:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok12:51
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) except those that you know are no valid warnings (e.g. standards version) :)12:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sounds great!12:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna have lunch12:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and then I start12:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) brb12:52
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I: mined: hyphen-used-as-minus-sign usr/share/man/man1/mined.1.gz:36512:52
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) look into that one as well12:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) back12:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok12:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: anyway manpage is provided by upstream directly01:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) not from me01:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) errored line is automatic "smart quotes": When you type a "01:04
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DarkSun88Hi all01:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya01:30
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hi nuu01:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)01:39
(BugMaN/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: bug #10297001:39
(ubotu/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Launchpad bug 102970 in torrentflux "dependancy php4-mysql should be replaced by php5-mysql" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10297001:39
(BugMaN/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: i'm check dependency and i found php4-mysql and php5-mysql, then i'll close the bug?01:40
nuuhi bluekuja :)01:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) BugMaN, what you mean with "dependency and i found php4-mysql and php5-mysql"01:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nuu: how its going with ?01:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *packaging guides01:41
(BugMaN/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: in debian/control01:41
nuubluekuja: been a little bit busy so far, planning to do some reading tonight if all goes well :)01:41
(BugMaN/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) there are php4 and php5 packages01:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) BugMaN, tou should talk with Dktrkranz for it, I know he was following it closely01:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *you01:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nuu, sounds great!01:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nuu, let me know :)01:42
nuuwill do :)01:42
(BugMaN/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: ok, i'll do01:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) BugMaN, thanks :)01:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) BugMaN, you mean +Depends: ${misc:Depends}, libapache-mod-php4 (>= 4:4.1) | libapache2-mod-php4 (>= 4:4.1) | libapache-mod-php5 | libapache2-mod-php5, php4-mysql | php5-mysql01:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pushed on 18-may01:44
(BugMaN/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) BugMaN: yes01:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) BugMaN, try to reproduce it with the gutsy upload01:46
(BugMaN/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: i make the gutsy version01:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) BugMaN, yeah, just saw it01:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) BugMaN, then just try to reproduce it01:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) BugMaN, when fixing something with a merge, you should use the Closes: bug syntax01:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) without closing it manually01:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I've fixed those errors01:48
(BugMaN/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: yes i saw the new features of LP01:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: upstream forgot to use escaped form01:49
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) escaped form?01:49
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah ... ok01:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) BugMaN, great! something like BTS in debian01:49
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) just fix all :)01:49
(BugMaN/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: but i make the package before LP's feature01:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: fixed all, I dont understand why this line is bad "smart quotes": When you type a "01:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) BugMaN, ok dont worry then01:50
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: afaik you should not use quotes01:51
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but 01:51
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)01:51
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but that is just my guess out of the dark01:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, lets try01:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is ok to modify manpages provided by upstream?01:51
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if the package has a patch system use a patch ... otherwise just do it in .debian branch01:52
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with a single, well documented patch01:52
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and name what file in source was modified for what reason in debian/changelog as well01:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) s/documented patch/documented checkin/01:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok, all in one checkin01:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then01:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with a good documentation01:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for each change01:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) do what you want ... i would prefer multiple checkins01:54
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so you back single ones out in case we find better ways etc.01:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok01:54
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g. for each warning one checkin ... but its your choice in the end01:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, it would be more simply to backup01:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so +101:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)01:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope it wasnt problem01:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I should use \[:a] 02:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as described in groff_char man02:00
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) good :)02:00
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you will figure out ... i am sure02:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)02:01
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it never ends03:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) they used a lot of those name chars03:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I found the trick03:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) we just have to use groff simbols for them03:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and it works03:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g \['A] 03:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but its plenty of them03:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :P03:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) btw the page got 7400 lines03:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: previous versions got that warning too03:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and some chars cannot be definied03:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g 03:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's something related, when you fix one, lintian move to another one03:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and so on03:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I wait your response for it03:16
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah03:17
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fix all :)03:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol03:17
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) maybe use a "manpage" editor03:17
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that should do it right03:18
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g. WYSIWYG03:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: how can I change chars not supported?03:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 03:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) like that03:18
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i have no idea03:18
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) use manpage editor03:18
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and hope that it converts them to proper03:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I hope so03:18
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) kill upstreawm author03:19
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) who is probably french03:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ahha03:19
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if you see someone who insist to use "non-ascii" characters ... he is probably french03:19
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well germans are sometimes hard to convince not to use them as well :)03:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D03:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the problem consist in 7400 lines03:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna suicide after03:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D03:20
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hehe03:20
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) good test that you can get tedious tasks done :)03:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: haha yeah!03:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) other warnings are fixed just need to fix this one03:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I'm done03:21
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lots of time in software its like you wanna throw all away and give up03:21
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cool03:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yea, you're right03:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but It will be nice to see a perfect package after03:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^03:22
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sure :)03:23
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that will help to forget the pain you've been through03:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup!03:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) installed man editor03:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets start03:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :P03:23
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) good luck03:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) thanks03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) leaving for a while03:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl03:49
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: woohoo!06:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: fixeeed! :)06:30
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ohooo06:30
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: manpage editor did it?06:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope, the editor missed some char, and I had to do it by hand06:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 7000+ lines06:30
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah ... pushed?06:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now, I'm making the checkins06:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) one by one06:31
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) good06:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)06:31
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cool06:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna ping you in minutes06:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) when pushed06:31
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) good works deserves good checkins :)06:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) eheh06:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes06:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)06:31
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) otherwise you expose: "this work is worth nothgin"06:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) exactly06:31
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) most people work 48h on code06:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)06:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) aww06:32
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and then don't have 20 minutes to decently checkin06:32
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i can't understand that06:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup06:32
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in free software most people are pretty good06:32
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if you go to "proprietary" development06:32
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or individual "in-house" developments06:32
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you die06:32
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)06:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D06:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) unfortunately it works like that06:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :/06:33
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its unbelievable what kind of large scale projects are even not in a revision system at all06:33
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g. "hey can you please send me code" :)06:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol06:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's not nice06:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^06:33
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah it becomes even worse if you say "hey here are my changes in this tarbal ... you will figure out what i changed" :)06:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah06:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its better from packagers side too06:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: can you try building?06:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) y06:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I hope I've pushed correct files06:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)06:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) k06:54
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) -automatic "smart quotes": When you type a "06:54
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) +automatic smart quotes: When you type a "06:54
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is that right?06:54
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) did you drop the " completely intentionally06:54
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ?06:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let me see the browse code06:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 500 Internal error06:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request.06:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) damn06:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: -.- It saved it on a temp file06:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: that's why the manpage is alwais the same06:59
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i don't like revno 406:59
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you should not drop the license file from source06:59
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but just take care that it doesn't end up in install06:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: so adding a clean rule06:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok06:59
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) a clean rule ... i don't understand that wording06:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) deleting that file07:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) after build07:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to go back to revn. 307:00
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: readd the LICENSE file (e.g. apply reversed patch of -r 3..4)07:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yea07:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I can apply a reverse patch07:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and get back to rev.307:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with rev 507:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *607:01
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oki07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let's do it07:02
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) just "backout" revno 407:02
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is ok to delete it at the end of the build process?07:02
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) without loosing history :)07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g LICENSE.GNU07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)07:02
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: actually i don't really like that way, but it should be ok07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok07:02
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: personall, I install things to debian/tmp07:02
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and then move those files needed to debian/packagename07:02
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) by dh_install07:03
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: just take care that running fakeroot ./debian/rules binary ... works multiple times07:03
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) without failing07:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok07:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: should I backup all in one checkin?07:04
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) all?07:05
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) why all07:05
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ?07:05
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) just the license file checkin07:05
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then in another checkin add the "clean" feature07:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok07:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and then manpage fix07:06
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) he?07:06
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) why?07:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because I saved it on a temp file07:06
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: no ... just backout the LICENSE.GNU07:06
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) file07:06
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the manpage fix can stay in07:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in fact there is no fix07:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in it07:06
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) he?07:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I saved the file on a temp file, and I moved in the wrong fix07:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so now it's the same as before07:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^07:07
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: please do locally what you think is right and show me the log then07:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok07:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the diff confirm it07:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^07:08
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i don't see a link here07:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pasting it07:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8420807:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as you can see there's no fix07:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's upstream one in fact07:11
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) he?07:11
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what do you do07:11
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i think you went off topic07:12
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the manpage is not of concern here ;)07:12
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or did I miss something?07:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: manpage cause that lintian error07:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: so I fixed all chars07:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: but that's not the right manpage07:12
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: yes thats fine ... but read above ... i didn't complain about manpage07:13
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) LICENSE.GNU should be in source again07:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, LICENSE.GNU has been added again07:13
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah07:13
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok07:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I was talking about manpage07:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)07:13
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) whats the problem with it?07:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I pushed wrong manpage07:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g not fixed07:13
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) why?07:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so I'm pushing correct one07:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) correct one was saved into /tmo07:14
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok07:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *tmp07:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so It messed up changes07:14
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah ... remember to look at what you check in07:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)07:14
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) before you check-in07:14
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) otherwise you bloat the archive07:14
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: at best backout bad commit07:14
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and checkin right one07:14
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so later you can see the actualy changes more distinct07:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) backout?07:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) how?07:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) reversing patch07:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as always reverse patch07:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes07:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok07:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) commit07:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then apply good manpage07:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and commit07:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok07:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i never said "backup" ... I always ment "backout"07:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)07:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)07:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) patched07:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now pushing07:17
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets see07:27
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: ok backout looks fine07:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: great07:28
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now fix things :)07:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yup, i'm doind a diff for every checkin07:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to be *sure07:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *07:28
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: next time you should backout in opposite sequence07:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g ?07:29
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g. firt backout revno 6 ... then 5 then 407:29
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course only if you want to backout multiple commits07:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh ok07:29
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) not a problem07:29
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because files touched did not overlap07:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup07:29
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but often they do overlap and then its easier to reverse backout order07:30
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok cool07:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: manpage fix pushed, now adding clean rule, and everything is fixed07:32
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) please don't call it "clean rule" in comment07:32
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in commit07:32
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it can easily be confused by makefile clean rule07:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok07:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I just point out that that file has been deleted07:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because its not needed07:33
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) k07:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it doesnt work07:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: adding a rm -f to delete LICENSE.GNU07:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) from there07:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it doesnt make an output07:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g no errors07:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but It doesnt remove it correctly07:43
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hey ... you must remove the "installed" file ... not the source one07:44
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) which you probably did now07:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: mmm...yeah. It's what I did07:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let me check something07:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: fixed07:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)07:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now committing07:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and pushing07:52
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hi DarkSun8807:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *Don07:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: pushed07:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: you should be able to build, getting no lintian errors07:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)07:56
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) k07:56
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I go to eat for a while07:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) brb07:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)07:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: back08:08
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: how does ldd look like?08:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: checking08:09
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i have the feeling that passing INSTALLROOT might cause troubles08:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: y?08:11
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dunno08:11
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) check ldd08:11
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)08:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: /urs/share/mined/bin08:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) looks bad08:14
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) whats that08:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I was checking destdir08:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) please paste somwhere08:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) DESTDIR is not supported by these kind of borked make systems08:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you would have to fix the build system08:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm looking at where It will install everything08:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and INSTALLROOT just looks wrong08:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: want me to paste in?08:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *it08:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ldd08:15
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i want to see ldd of installed binaries08:16
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and libs08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000)08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0xb7ee0000)08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7dac000)08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7da8000)08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f2d000)08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mined binary08:16
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hmmm ... ok08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) other files are not dynamic executables08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so cannot ldd on them08:16
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what are other files?08:17
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) configs?08:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g ldd /usr/bin/umined08:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) not a dynamic executable08:17
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) look inside08:17
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its probably a script08:17
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if it has absolute paths ... are they right08:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) checking08:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) they are bin/sh scripts08:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) like xinitrc08:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I fixed08:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) before08:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ldd seems ok on that binary file08:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) others are scripts, so ldd message is right08:19
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) y08:20
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) luck then08:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup08:20
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) why do we need this "shitty" piece of software?08:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) coz it's quite nice, and it needs new releases to be pushed in08:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it was in testing before08:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it builds ok?08:23
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(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no tried ... will not finish that today :(08:23
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i feel exhausted and have other important stuff todo ... which otherwise will get my head cut :)08:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: aww oki08:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: we gonna finish it tomorrow08:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)08:24
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes08:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)08:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: fische is in ;)08:31
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in debian?08:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea08:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)08:32
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cool08:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) forgot to tell you that08:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^ :)08:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: one of the packages I maintain made a new release (using a patch)09:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in changelog should I use next release version09:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or version-209:16
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) did they bump the version?09:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope09:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) he works using patches09:17
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so how did you get the version ?09:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *to fix* some bugs09:17
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what is current version?09:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: 1.3.4-dnh309:18
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what is dnh3 ?09:18
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) where is that from?09:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is all related to package version09:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it means enhanced09:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) upstream ships with 1.3.4-dnh309:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: when he releases a new patch, the previous one is integrated in the new one09:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and so on09:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://www.rahul.net/dholmes/ctorrent/09:22
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah ... but he will bump some patch level info or something09:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) A couple more critical issues in release dnh3 have been found and fixed. To reduce any confusion or inconvenience in the tracking and application of patches, all such fixes will now be distributed in a single patch file that will be updated as necessary, while its name will not change. See the Download section for more details.09:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's what I said09:23
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: maybe ask him if can next time bump patch level to dnh3.1 ?09:23
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) we can then use dnh3.009:23
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) actually its bad to have that info in debian package revision09:23
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it should be09:23
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 1.3.4+dnh309:23
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 1.3.4+dnh3-109:23
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for instance09:24
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for next "small update patch" he should use dnh3.109:24
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we can use09:24
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 1.3.4+dnh3.1-109:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: should I use that as version?09:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) explaining it in changelog09:24
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) how is ctorrent distributed?09:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) GPL09:24
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i mean does he ship the patches in a separate directory?09:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh09:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^09:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah09:25
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) are they applied during build?09:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup09:25
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) which directory are those patches in?09:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I made a patch system for it09:25
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you?09:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yea09:25
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in debian/ ... ?09:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ye09:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to apply them during build09:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we can have the same product of upstream09:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that ships tarball and patches separated09:26
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah09:26
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let me think abit09:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) developer makes new patches deleting old ones09:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g integrating09:27
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but doesn't update tarball?09:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope09:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) tarball is alwais the same09:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) patches change09:27
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) thats really dirty09:27
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i mean ... if he would add new patch fine ... we could add that patch09:27
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but just updating patch09:27
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in that case i would prefer to update tarball for him09:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is quite easy09:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to do09:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) just apply the diff on tarball09:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and we have a new release09:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^09:28
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes ... but let me think09:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) he talks about a dnh3.1 here09:29
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: can you ask him if he can release incremental patches in addition to the merged one?09:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) "Beginning with dnh1.1 t"09:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so he calls this one as a new release09:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dnh3.109:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: do you think it should be ok to call it "New upstream release"?09:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) he talked about a dnh3.109:33
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) he talked about?09:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Thanks! BTW I'm hoping to have dnh3.1 out later this month and would09:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) recommend going with it if your schedule permits. I have several09:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) additional fixes as well as some improvements and features now entering09:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the testing/documentation stage.09:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) he mailed me09:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) later this month = end of may09:33
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: can you try to convince him to encode patch-level versioning09:33
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we know how to version09:33
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its a mess otherwis09:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I mailed him 3 times09:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) without response09:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for 2 weeks09:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) using the same mail of the first one09:34
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then lets wait for official dnh3.109:34
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and not update09:34
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i mean ... why to clean his room if he doesn't care?09:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^09:34
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and that patch is the effective new dnh3.1?09:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *if09:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as written in homepage09:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the problem is "single patch file that will be updated as necessary, while its name will not change"09:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so the name doesnt change09:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: not sure about it09:39
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: does he have a revision system?09:41
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: do we already have that patch in debian/patches?09:41
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i mean the old version?09:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yes09:41
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or is this the first?09:41
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah ok09:41
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja, please try to do an interdiff09:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: previous patch is already in09:41
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then use the output as the incremental patch09:41
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) .e.g. we do what he doesn't09:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) between the two patches?09:41
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) separate the patch09:41
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes09:41
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) interdiff09:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok09:41
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) install patchutils09:42
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if not available09:42
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and look at manpage09:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok09:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) when I have a result, gonna ping you09:42
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its basically just interdiff PATCH_OLD PATCH_NEW09:42
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sure09:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup09:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)09:42
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i am here for 15 minutes09:42
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then i will leave ... no matter what09:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna hurry09:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) !09:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok, done09:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I have a diff file from the new and old version09:46
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes?09:47
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) please show me all three :)09:47
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 1st old patch09:47
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 2nd new patch09:47
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 3 interdiff :)09:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pasting09:47
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the interdiff is what will be added to debian/patches09:47
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if its ok09:47
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)09:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok09:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: old= http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8433509:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: new= http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8434009:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: interdiff= http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8434209:50
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fsateler, hi09:54
fsatelerhi09:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: how does it look?09:54
fsatelersorry for not showing up yesterday... wasn't at home09:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fsateler, dont worry :)09:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fsateler, no news from mentors?09:55
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: its far bigger than i have expected ... will have to look at it tomorrow09:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok :)09:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: gonna try to apply interdiff patch09:56
fsatelerbluekuja: no, not yet09:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: to see if everything is ok09:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fsateler, as pochu told you there are some problem with it09:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g soname and lib name itself09:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hydri_, news?09:57
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: if it applies on top of old then its a good sign09:57
fsateleryes, but as I see it, they aren't really problems.09:57
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: you can also use combinepatch09:57
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to see if you end up with the same as the old09:57
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) its in patchutils package as well09:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I gonna apply it to upstream tarball09:57
fsatelersince they have different sonames, they can coexist09:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for first09:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then I move to combinepatch09:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)09:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fsateler, how?09:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and yes, they can coexist09:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but its bad09:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and can create confusion09:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what do you think?09:58
fsatelerpeople won't be normally installing libtorrent... it wouold get pulled in by an actual client09:59
fsatelerOf course, this is not optimal, but I don't think it is such a big deal10:00
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: i don't see why you want to apply to upstream tarball :)10:00
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: anyway, got to go :)10:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok, we will finish it tomorrow then10:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: take care alex and have fun10:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fsateler, yeah, you're right10:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fsateler, I dont know what can we decide for it10:02
fsatelerI was told in the debian-mentors list that there should only be a conflict in the -dev packages10:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fsateler, what kind of conflict?10:04
fsatelersince they both claim to own /usr/include/libtorrent/...10:04
fsatelerconflict between libtorrent-rasterbar-dev and libtorrent-dev (rakshasa's)10:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fsateler, did you think about a possible solution?10:06
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fsatelermm I think I'm missing something here... a possible solution for what? the current situation poses no problem as I see it10:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) fsateler, you talked about a conflict10:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) reported in mentors10:16
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hydri_bluekuja: hi10:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hey hydri_ :)10:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) some news from your side?10:22
hydri_bluekuja: hm.. not really.. are you expecting me to do something?10:22
hydri_I was wondering though, how likely is it that the other libtorrent package is renamed?10:23
hydri_or.. can be renamed10:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hydri_, we cannot rename the other lib atm10:23
hydri_afaik it doesn't have any dependees10:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hydri_, I really dont know what can we do now...10:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because we need to hear some more people for it10:24
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hydri_ok10:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) we still waiting codergeek10:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (fedora maintainer)10:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for it10:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to find a common name for ubuntu/gentoo/fedora10:25
hydri_nice10:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and package it using that name10:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) something like libtorrent-rasterbar10:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, news from codergeek?10:25
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i sent him an email last week but no answer, i hope he didn't mean 29 june :P10:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol10:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I hope not!10:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hydri_, when codergeek will be available, we'll decide about it10:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to find a common name10:27
hydri_ko10:27
hydri_ok10:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna ping you when I have news10:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)10:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: was thinking about the patch...why we need to use interdiff between old and new if upstream did it already?10:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: e.g old patch integrated in new one10:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so the work we are trying to do is not needed10:34
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: because it sucks to update a patch10:34
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) add patches is what we want10:35
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or a new tarball10:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: sounds good10:35
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but we can't do a new tarball10:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yup10:35
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(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because we don't know anything about how upstream will version next release et al10:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: where should I try to apply interdiff patch?10:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) on an already patched (old) tarball?10:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as far as we have to keep old patch is the only way10:38
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: you added a patch system?10:38
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) add that patch to the end10:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok, trying10:38
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so it gets applied on top of the OLD patch10:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna update 00list10:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and add it10:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets see10:38
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) y10:39
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok10:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope, it fails10:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: first is applied correctly, second fails10:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) not good news10:46
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: then the interdiff is not proper10:52
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you should redo and do proper :)10:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok10:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nothing11:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: doesnt apply11:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: trying to do it with a script11:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that automatically interdiff two .diff files and move them into a dpatch11:10
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: take care that you the interdiff is right11:11
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) t11:11
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) maybe you have to use -p11:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, tried it too11:11
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if interdiff is done proper it should apply11:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets see with this script11:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: fails with it too11:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's strange11:12
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: get the interdiff proper ... and it will work11:14
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) combinediff should yield the exact NEW patch11:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, let's try to use combinediff11:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: combinediff failed too, the two patches touch the same files, maybe they get some conflicts?11:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that prevent from applying11:21
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: you messed up the interdiff then :)11:26
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it *should* work11:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: mmm....11:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it should be a -p problem11:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I tried using -p111:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I get a SMALL diff11:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) really small this time11:28
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sounds better11:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8442311:29
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) looks reasonable11:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets try it11:30
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you guys should package wgetpaste :)11:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, do you have a link for it?11:33
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76: if you are developer you are encouraged to inject your package directly :)11:33
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ubotu: google wgetpaste11:33
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) stupid bot11:34
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: i'm a developer...but from Gentoo :P11:34
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah ... i meant if you are upstream developer11:34
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah, no :)11:34
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so how comes that you care :-D11:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :P11:53
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well, because i know the guy who does it11:53
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and because is more useful than nopaste and its ruby crap11:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah ... then he is encouraged to inject his packages directly :)11:53
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) don't think he cares :P11:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i believe most upstream developers should care to get a new distribution channel :)11:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: still doesnt apply....11:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i believe that most do care11:53
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no idea really11:53
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) just thought that you maybe are interested on it11:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sure :)11:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, when I finish some packages updated, gonna take a look at it11:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) just wanted to raise awareness that its a good idea if upstream participates in packaging their software11:53
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) afaik it's only a bash script :)11:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh :)11:53
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but it gets versioned, so it's good to have it packaged and updated11:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, yeah, nice diea11:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *idea11:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, homepage?11:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) are there more trivial programs available?11:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if so we should consider to make a single package with those scripts :)11:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) btutils :)11:53
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://wgetpaste.zlin.dk/11:53
(asac/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok ... off playing abit ... then sleep11:53
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bye11:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: gonna finish this tomorrow then11:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I gonna mail upstream again11:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's not possible to have this11:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, nice, easy to package too11:53
DarkSun88G'night11:53
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gnight all01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cu tomorrow01:15
pochunight bluekuja!01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) night pochu!01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)01:15
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-motu-torrent: Home of Ubuntu MOTU Torrent Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Torrent | Launchpad Homepage: https://launchpad.net/~motu-torrent | If interested in joining the team, please read Membership section in team's wiki page | Bug Triaging: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~motu-torrent/+packagebugs | Bzr branches: https://code.launchpad.net/~motu-torrent/
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hi all11:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)11:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, hey!11:30
idefixsthe man i've been lokking for.11:30
idefixsoops looking11:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)11:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: upstream answered finally...11:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: "The dnh3 update patch is meant to be applied to the dnh311:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) base."11:31
asacyeah11:31
asacwhich is obvious11:31
idefixsi need some help with launchpad. i'm not really getting anywhere11:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup11:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, I gonna help you now11:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: what do you suggest?11:32
idefixsgreat.11:32
idefixsi was of course able to checkout the branches you made11:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I dont know why but interdiff doesnt work11:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: combinediff same11:32
idefixsand i found out, how i can add another.11:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, have you registered yourself to lp yet?11:33
idefixsbut not how i can host it11:33
idefixsyes, i am registered11:33
asacbluekuja: yesterday it looked good11:33
asacmaybe the wrong direction though11:33
asacidefixs: have you branched our branch?11:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: wrong direction?11:34
asacyeah ... if you use OLDFILE NEWFILE ... or NEWFILE OLDFILE matters11:34
asacwrong sequence ... dunno the right word :)11:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I used NEWFILE OLDFILE11:34
asacyes thats definitly wrong11:34
idefixsasac, what does that mean?11:34
asacdirection ;)11:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mm...great11:34
asacbluekuja: if you read the log of this channel i told you the right direction :)11:35
asacbluekuja: at least i think so ;)11:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, but I was too tired yesterday11:35
asacbluekuja: can you give idefixs the url of our branch?11:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course11:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, added your ssh key?11:35
asacbluekuja: at best the command to branch :)11:35
asacbluekuja: its a private branch of you atm? then he can only use http ... and later push to "his" private space11:36
idefixsbluekuja, not yet, one moment...11:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: exactly11:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's not a team branch11:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so I'm the only one who can push in11:36
asacbluekuja: the idea is that idefixs as "upstream" maintains his own private branch11:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yea, sounds good11:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/fische/main.autotools11:37
asacidefixs: you have to call bzr branch <URL>11:37
asacidefixs: you have to call bzr branch <URL> target-directory11:37
idefixskey uploaded11:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, great11:37
asac2nd syntax if you don't want to end it up in a dir called main.autotools11:37
asac:)11:37
asacidefixs: then, you might check if this is actually *your* latest version (so no work gets lost) ... and if you are done push it to your own private branch :) .... bluekuja can tell you how ;)11:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, first of all setup your branch locallly11:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *locally11:39
idefixsi got that far11:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr init11:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in your *work* dir11:39
idefixsoops no didn't11:39
idefixsok11:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then11:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you branch out my own private branch11:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with bzr branch URL11:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as suggested by asac11:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then you modify what is needed11:40
asac(yes ... and you don't call bzr init before)11:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes11:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr init only if you start from zero11:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) importing stuff by hand11:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) remember to use bzr add or bzr rm11:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for adding and removing files11:41
idefixsok. NO bzr init, check bluekuja's files for actuality, ....11:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) when you have made a change, just commit your work...11:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with..11:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr commit -m "comment for your changes"11:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) please be much accurate as you can while writing your *changelog*11:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) after -m variable11:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, then push your work to your brand new branch11:42
idefixsbrand new branch? did i miss something? where?11:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr push sftp://<launchpad-identity>@bazaar.launchpad.net/~<your-launchpad-id-or-team-id>/<product>/<branchname>11:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, you have to work in your private branch11:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) using the files I currently have in mine11:43
idefixsok....11:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so just branch mine11:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) commit your comment11:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and push to bzr push sftp://<launchpad-identity>@bazaar.launchpad.net/~<your-launchpad-id-or-team-id>/<product>/<branchname>11:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course overwrite with correct informations11:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: do you have a minute for mined?11:45
idefixsis it a problem to configure/build in my local working directory?11:50
asacidefixs: dunno if you know something about decentralized source control systems like bzr ... its pretty cool as everybody has his own branch and you merge back and forth, share workload (e.g. we maintain the debian/ hierarchy and preapply patches if they are critical, which you can then merge to your core branch from which we usually merge :)11:51
asacidefixs: no its not11:51
asacyou can build and do everything11:51
asacyou just have to take care that you don't commit generated files11:51
idefixshow do i ensure that11:51
asacidefixs: you can even say something like bzr clean-tree in case you feel that you have too much garbage lying around :)11:51
asacidefixs: you only commit files that you once registered by bzr add11:52
idefixsok thats easy11:52
asace.g. all other files are not known to bzr and are thus considered garbage11:52
asacif you want to remove a file use bzr rm11:52
asac:)11:52
asacyou can even move files: bzr mv11:52
asacidefixs: last but not least for the basics you can specify which files to commit11:52
asacwhen you don't want to commit every modification11:53
asacbzr status can be used to see what you have modified11:53
asacbzr info show some other interesting stuff11:53
asaconce you are happy with your commits (e.g. you don't want to uncommit anymore) ... you can publish your changes online11:53
asacbzr push11:53
asac:)11:53
asacby11:53
asacthats basically it11:53
asacah ... bzr diff11:54
idefixswhen i locally change a file and then say push, does it push the changed one, or do i have to say commit-push11:55
asacto look at changes you have not yet committed ... or bzr diff -r rev1..rev2 ... to see modifications between those checkins11:55
asacidefixs: you first commit11:55
asacidefixs: usually you do not directly publish that commit11:55
asacbut maybe commit another checkin11:55
asaconce you have your feature finished ... or in a "publishable" state you publish by "bzr push"11:56
idefixsbut now, in this case - i first commit ( locally ) and then push it all to a new branch. right?11:56
asacidefixs: yes ... actually the idea is that you branch from our branch to get started11:56
asacso you don't commit11:56
asacyou just branch locally11:56
asacand directly push to your branch11:57
asacin this way its easier to do merges back and force from your to our tree and vv11:57
asacbecause bzr knows that both branches have a commom ancestor11:57
asacwe could redo our branch as well in cause you don't want to start with our tree state11:57
asacidefixs: so basically you just to bzr branch URL (of bluekuja) ... then next step: bzr push sftp:.... (your url)11:58
idefixsno i'm fine. i'll start from here11:58
asaccool11:58
asaci think your initial push needs --create-prefix11:59
asacso bzr push --create-prefix sftp:...11:59
asacso the directories are created on sftp server11:59
idefixsno it didn't need it. already done.12:02
idefixscan i get more detailed info than bzr status12:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) idefixs, you can browse the code on launchpad12:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with all files, changes, comments12:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) diffs, and so on12:05
asacidefixs: what info do you want?12:06
asacidefixs: bzr info shows you some more "high level" infos12:06
idefixswhat exactly i changed in the files12:06
asacbzr diff12:06
idefixsah ok12:06
asacbzr diff you can also diff between revisions12:06
asacor branches12:06
asace.g. see whats the difference from your file to ours12:06
asacetc.12:06
asacidefixs: you can always use bzr help COMMAND12:07
asacto get pretty good help on the command12:07
idefixsand what if i did something wrong?12:07
asaclocally?12:07
idefixsyes12:07
asacif you did not yet commit12:08
asacyou can use12:08
asacbzr revert12:08
idefixsok12:08
asacif you already committed locally12:08
asacyou can uncommit12:08
asacbut don't do that with already published commits12:08
asacjust if you want to reorganize your work12:08
asacthat is not yet published12:08
asacso its pretty save to commit multiple times locally to do some kind of check-pointing12:09
asacof your work12:09
asacand later reorganize your checkins so you have clean "per feature" checkins12:10
asacwhich is usually the ultimate goal :)12:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: when you have a minute for mined, let me know12:15
asacbluekuja: yeah :912:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)12:16
idefixsthanks for the help again!12:22
idefixscu12:22
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javamaniac, hey!12:40
javamaniacbluekuja, :)12:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) how are you?12:41
javamaniacfine, a little stressed with the university, and you?12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I'm really ok! thanks :)12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) do you have some exams soon?12:42
javamaniacyes, and i must finish the first 4 chapters of my thesis before attend debconf :S12:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) aww12:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D12:43
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) DktrKranz, vorian , |Element| hello01:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)01:22
DktrKranz:-*01:23
|Element|bluekuja: hi01:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) |Element|, how its going with packaging?01:23
|Element|i did nothing recently, busy with work01:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh ok :)01:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) going to lunch01:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl01:25
|Element|bluekuja: i'm sorry01:25
|Element|if i have time, i will do it01:26
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DarkSun88Hi all01:59
pochuHi DarkSun8801:59
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hey DarkSun88 :)02:00
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DarkSun88Hi pochu bluekuja :)02:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)02:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I talked with upstream about the patch, he told me that dnh3.1 will be out soon02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we can just wait for new release02:47
asacyes02:48
asacthats what I thought02:48
asacanyway ... patchutils excercise is nice anyway :)02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's definitely better02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: do you have a minute for mined now? so I can archive that as done02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/mined/debian.source02:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/mined/upstream.source02:50
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) xD02:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: strange, worked here02:54
asacbluekuja: did you try in sid?=02:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope02:54
asacsid has new gcc02:54
asacplease try02:54
asacshould fail there02:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) aww...new gcc02:55
asacor its an amd64 issue02:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mm..02:55
asacplease try02:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok02:55
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: setting up pbuilder with sid ;)03:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://packages.linuxdc.it/unstable/result/mined_2000.13.2-1/mined_2000.13.2-1_i386.build03:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: sent it two days ago03:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: and it builds on that machine03:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with sid03:10
asacyeah ... then try amd6403:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: fails on amd6403:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^03:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: should I specify the arch in debian/control then?03:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) leaving for an hour03:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl03:46
asacbluekuja: no :) ... fix it03:47
asacbluekuja: its not ready for packaging if it doesn't build on all archs03:48
asac... unless it inheritably implements a feature that is only available on i38603:48
asacbut most in such a case its often right to default to 'the author had no clue'03:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: back04:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: do you have any hint to fix it?04:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I dont understand why we get *** No rule to make target `SpecialCasing.txt'. Stop.05:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: i'm checking mkcasesp05:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to see what's wrong05:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8541205:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: that's the file that points to to a .txt file05:29
asacusually you get that message if a file that should be there is not05:32
asacor if there is a makefile target missing05:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) exactly05:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but why it works on i386 and not on amd6405:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g in amd64 it's not created05:33
asacdunno :) ... that's your task05:33
asacthere should be some reason05:33
asac:)05:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol05:33
asacif there is a valid reason05:33
asacthen we can restrict archs05:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to see if previous versions got it05:33
asacmight be that the source for that file is not matched ... or the file fails to get generated during make due to some amd specifics05:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: previous versions got amd6405:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mm...05:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to diff that file with previous upstream version05:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is exactly the same05:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as new version05:36
asacmkinclud.mak05:36
asacin that file it WGETs that file05:36
asacwhich is EVIL05:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, it uses wget for it05:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm05:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/SpecialCasing.txt05:37
asacwhat license is that file?05:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let me see05:39
asacyeah all is lost05:39
asacits non-free05:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, is unicode copyright05:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://www.unicode.org/copyright.html05:40
asacplease figure out if this file is not needed for i386 or if wget just succeeded for you05:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok05:40
asacif its not needed, we might have a chance ... otherwise its probably not distributable for us05:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: also for other files?05:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/Scripts.txt05:41
asacyes05:41
asacall files need to be checked05:41
asacall involved during build05:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok05:41
asacactually all WGET has to go away05:41
asacas its not possible to WGET something on buildds05:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: building without them05:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it builds05:45
asacdamn this software just sucks05:45
asacmaybe rewrite the build system :)05:45
asacit makes no sense to have this kind of problem makefiles now adays05:45
asacits a "Turbo C" generated project file05:45
asacout05:45
asacouchz05:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: omg05:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^05:46
asacbluekuja: can you give me two sentences what mined does?05:46
asacwhat is its use?05:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's the first text editor that provided unicode-support05:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) from control:05:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) terminal. It now has both extensive Unicode and CJK support offering many05:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) specific features and covering special cases that other editors05:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) are not aware of (like auto-detection features and automatic handling05:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of terminal variations, or Han character information). It is an editor05:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) tailored to efficient editing of plain text documents and programs,05:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with features and interactive behaviour designed for this purpose.05:47
asachmm05:49
asacsounds like yet another editor :)05:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^05:49
asacplease file a bug upstream to figure out if it can be build without those unicode files and why we need them on amd64 for instance05:50
asacwe definitly have to push this back until we have clarification on that05:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: first release was on 2004-03-2005:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the package05:51
asacwhere was it released to`05:51
asac?05:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) on debian05:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I mean first package was made on that date05:51
asacdid it ever build on all archs?05:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah05:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) every version builds on all archs05:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) also amd6405:51
asacdo you have old versions at hand=?05:51
asacand see if it still pulls in those unicode files05:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, I have the code here05:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets see05:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah05:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) old package got them05:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and it builds on amd6405:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) last upload was made by Debian QA05:53
asacbluekuja: please search the debian-legal archives05:54
asacfor the files in question05:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok05:54
asacmaybe there is some discussion on05:54
asacit05:54
asacthem05:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nothing05:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: no discussion related to unicode/mined05:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for our problem05:58
asacbluekuja: please search for the files in question05:58
asacthose are released by unicode.org05:58
asacand might have been discussed independently05:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: file in question = wget ones'05:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ?05:58
asacyes05:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok05:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nothing, all messages are related to debian-devel for .changes uploads and users mailing lists06:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) some from debian-bugs and from wnpp06:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nothing related to legal06:02
asachmm06:03
asacbluekuja: if you can figure out why it works on i386 without WGET06:03
asacthen we probably are on track, why its legal to distribute this06:03
asacbut for now i don't see that06:03
asaccan you uninstall wget and still can build that file?06:03
asacthat package i mean06:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets try06:04
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: cant build without wget06:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :/06:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it mess up some dependencies06:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah wait found a workaround06:11
asacwget is in build dependencies?06:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope06:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it builds without having wget on system06:14
asacfigure out why ... and figure out why it tries to wget on amd64 (or actually why it doesn't try)06:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: in fact it doesnt use wget on i386 too06:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it should fail06:16
asacYEAH .... you will find out ... read the makefiles and the "makefile helper"06:17
asacfile06:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) damn package06:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) make actions makefile helper are included into mkinclud.mak06:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *into06:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so actions are passed from that file06:21
asacthere are probably more helpers06:23
asacbut in general yes06:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I just dont understand why the SAME file doesnt work in two different releases06:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) on that arch06:24
asacmaybe make system was changed06:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, that's a possible solution06:24
asac"a possible reason" you mean, right?06:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *yes06:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^06:25
asack in 20 minutes i am out ... today i am out for real in case you wonder :)06:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok06:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm checking debdiff06:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: -wget -N http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt06:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) +$(WGET) http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt06:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in previous versions there was the -N option06:38
asacwhat does -N do?06:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it doesn download files older that local ones06:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *than06:38
asack06:38
asaci think the difference should be further on top06:39
asace.g. in makefile that uses that helper06:39
asacmaybe its even a "configure option"06:39
asacyou fail to pass06:39
asace.g. like ... use WGET to get unicode files06:39
asacor not06:39
asac:)06:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, nice hint06:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets see06:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what configure says06:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm...configure is passed to makemined06:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: wget is used in a lot of other links06:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's plenty in the diff06:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so maybe -N option was right06:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) something like dont download using wget but use local files06:45
asacbluekuja: which doesn't help if the file is not there locally06:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) right :)06:46
asace.g. i don't see it in the source tarball06:46
asaci think we still don't understand whats going on ... and need to investigate06:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: +WGET=wget -N -t 1 --timeout=506:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it wgets curl too06:47
asaci have the feeling that you will have it figured out tomorrow :)06:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I hope to figure out this06:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's really hard to understand what is doing06:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and why if I dont have wget on my system it works?06:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) this is a nice question06:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) something like that those files are not needed06:49
asacyeah06:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and why on amd64, they are needed again?06:49
asacits tricky ... but a challenge06:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) omg06:49
asacimo its probably borked make system06:49
asacif people start to do "everything on their own" ... they tend to fail miserably06:50
asacautomake is the way to go in general :)06:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea06:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) this package is REALLY strange06:51
asacmost packages are kind of strange06:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm...yeah06:51
asacbecause lots of people don't know how to do a proper build system :)06:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^06:51
asacactually he generated the makefiles by turbo C IDE06:51
asacwhich definitly leads to crap06:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now we have results of it06:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) something changed in new version and it cause that error06:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) previous versions are ok06:53
asacbluekuja: have you verified that old version still builds06:53
asac?06:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: using last gcc^06:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ?06:53
asacif you have verified that ... then its time to look at difference06:53
asacno ... old version on new toolchain06:53
asacotherwise it won't help to look at what upstream changed06:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: not yet06:54
asacdo that before you even consider to look at what changed06:54
asacimo its just a fragile build system that now hits us badly06:54
asacactually it might really be worth to autotoolize it06:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) trying old version06:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) seems to be ok06:58
asacdoes it build on amd?06:59
asacthen check the difference06:59
asaci am out!!!!06:59
asaccu tomorrow06:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D06:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: girlfriend?06:59
asacnot today :) ... today is beer time with some friends :)07:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) haha07:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you rock!07:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)07:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) have a nice evening and take care07:00
asacsure thanks ... u207:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cu tomorrow07:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)07:00
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya guys11:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ctorrent released dnh3.1, I've packaged it and pushed into bzr for you11:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/ctorrent-enhanced/debian.source11:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asacV http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/ctorrent-enhanced/upstream.source11:49
asacsuperbe11:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)11:54
asacbtw, why is the project called ctorrent enhanced?12:01
asacis there a ctorrent project too?12:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea, dead upstream12:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so he re-started the project using that name12:01
asacah ok ... thanks for clarifying12:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) he's doing a great work12:01
asaclets see :)12:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:03
asac1st. good thing is that you did branch from upstream bzr :) ... bzr diff looks good :)12:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:04
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asaclintian clean12:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup12:06
asacbzr header is missing in control12:07
asacyou can add?12:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course12:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) just a moment12:07
asacdid you add them on all other projects as well?12:08
asacif not, please do so as well :)12:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok12:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^12:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:09
asacbluekuja: why do we name the package ctorrent? not ctorrent-enhanced?12:09
asacits ok i guess ... just confuses me a bit :)12:09
asacsince in sf the project is called ctorrent as well12:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well yeah, package is named ctorrent but version changes12:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to dnh312:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for enhanced12:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so it's not nice to have ctorrent-enhanced version dnh312:10
asache?12:11
asaci cannot follow this argument :)12:11
asaci mean what has dnh3 todo with enhanced?12:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in fact, he decided to use dnh3 to dont overwrite the previous ctorrent name12:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because he started up working on that12:13
asacno license headers in source12:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mm..yea12:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) It's already in, so we can skip that12:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for now12:13
asacyeah ... but please bug upstream12:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok, gonna mail him12:15
asacask him if he is ok that you add the license headers and send him a patch :)12:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr field added to debian/control12:16
asack12:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok12:16
asacat best just do it and send the patch ... if he denies it should be removed from the archive anyway :)12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, I dont think he will deny12:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^12:18
asacbluekuja: you said its already in?12:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yes12:21
asacbluekuja: why does the changelog start with your initial modification?12:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) huh?12:21
asaclook at changelog ... it just has two entries12:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah12:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so?12:22
asacwhere are the others gone?12:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's my package12:22
asacah ok12:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) first release was made by me12:23
asack12:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and this is the second12:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)12:23
asacwhat does ctorrent do?12:23
asaccommand line bt-client?12:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) exactly12:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://www.rahul.net/dholmes/ctorrent/12:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for all features12:24
asacso does it have a web interface or what?12:26
asacor just cmdline ... e.g. output to the console12:26
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup12:26
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is another package, ctcs12:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) web interface too12:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yes12:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) exactly armin7612:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is ctcs12:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:26
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i never fail :D12:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hehehe12:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you know this application?12:26
asacbut i can use it command line only?12:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea12:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) web interface is a plus12:27
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yep, i know it12:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cool12:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I packaged ctorrent for fedora too12:28
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i'm in the net-p2p team, so i have to know almost all the apps :)12:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh cool, for gentoo?12:29
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) err, yes, why do you think i'm here? :P12:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) really nice12:29
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the only thing i don't touch are java apps12:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hehe12:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I dont like them too12:30
asacazureus is the word12:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup12:31
asacevil12:31
asacactually its fine ... but its such a huge beast ... consuming tons of mem et al12:31
asacfor me a bt downloader should be 1mb max :)12:31
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, fortunately azureus is maintained by another member of the team, so :)12:32
asachehe ... so does gentoo spin java from source as well :-P ?12:32
asacor does azureus even work with a free vm?12:33
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) errr, no idea :)12:35
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asachttp://sourceforge.net/top/topalltime.php?type=downloads12:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) aww12:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 5 is DC++12:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cool12:37
asactop 6 apps appear to be file sharing apps :)12:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah^^12:38
asac300 million dl for emule12:38
asacholy shit :)12:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D12:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: i still waiting verlihub12:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) some files were not tagged12:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) damn12:38
asactagged?12:39
asacwhere?12:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) license12:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g 2 files without12:39
asacbluekuja: ctorrent pushed12:40
asacplease take care that we get license headers in next upload :)12:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok great! :)12:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna mail upstream12:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: what can we do with verlihub?12:40
asachave you asked upstream if he wants to maintain the upstream branch in bzr?12:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) not yet12:40
asacverlihub ... i have no idea12:40
asacwhat the problem is12:40
asacplease elaborate12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: in fact two files doesnt have GNU license on the top12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) two source files12:41
asacwhat do they have?12:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nothing12:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) quite all files are tagged with license header12:43
asacwhat did upstream say?12:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that in next release will be fixed12:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) = waiting months12:44
asacbluekuja: does he have a revision system?12:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm...I think yes, but not public12:44
asacah12:44
asacdo we really want that package ... now?12:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well, it's the best hub software for dc++12:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) atm12:45
asacso is it an ITP or is it an old package?12:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ITP12:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) a guy requested it12:46
asacso where is the package ... in bzr already?12:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope, I have it here locally12:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I think that in two hours I can have it ready and in bzr12:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna ping you when pushed12:49
asac http://verlihub.cvs.sourceforge.net/verlihub/12:49
asachttp://verlihub.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/verlihub/12:49
asacwhich one is his?12:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: INSTALL 1.5 2 years verliba add possibility for plugins to extend userlist, and oplist12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) LuaPlugin.dev 1.1 3 years verliba no message12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Makefile.am 1.20 2 years verliba reorganize project12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Makefile.cvs 1.2 3 years verliba *** empty log message ***12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Makefile.in 1.39 2 years verliba reorganize project12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Makefile.win 1.11 3 years verliba -DEXPLICIT_TEMPLATES12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) NEWS 1.1.1.1 3 years verliba 12:50
asacyeah12:50
pochu!flood12:50
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pochu:p12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol12:50
pochuGood morning!12:50
asacmorning12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya pochu !12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is not used12:50
asacbluekuja: maybe its maintained in svn? or cvs?12:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://verlihub.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/verlihub/net-p2p/verlihub/12:51
asacthe guy is crazy ... have you looked at the svn ?12:51
asache adds things like patches there12:51
asacnothing else12:51
asacand ebuild files12:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah12:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol12:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) xD12:51
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: anyway I pushed it to bzr already12:52
asacgood12:52
asacjust let me know when all is ready12:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/main12:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the problem is that I pushed it only in one branhc12:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *branch12:52
asacups ... differnt approach?12:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I did it 3 weeks ago12:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we did not use other method12:53
asacbluekuja: yeah ... you can override it12:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup12:53
asacnow that we know better12:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna branch it out12:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and overwrite12:53
asacyou can mark the branch as obsolete12:53
asacso it will disappear12:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) how?12:53
asacand use other names12:53
asachttps://code.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/main12:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea12:54
asaci think you should be able to edit it there12:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok12:54
asacedit branch blablabla12:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok12:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) going to eat12:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for a while12:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then I push all correct12:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)12:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) brb12:54
asacyep12:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) backkkk01:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let's start01:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) branching out current branch01:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: a question about a merge01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dh_iconcache is still needed with gtk?01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) * to be specified01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in debian/rules01:15
asacno idea ... maybe ask on desktop01:16
asac#ubuntu-desktop01:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok01:16
asacor -motu :)01:17
asacmaybe they know there as well01:17
asaci have never used it :)01:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok :)01:17
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nice01:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no one answers01:19
pochubluekuja: not in debian, but in ubuntu01:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh ok01:22
pochujust if you're installing an icon into /usr/share/icons, IIRC01:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so I should leave it01:22
pochuFor Ubuntu yes.01:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) tnx for the hint01:22
pochunp01:23
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: verlihub got two ITP01:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) one merged in the other01:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) should I close both of them?01:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or if they are merged, they are closed automatically01:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with upload01:31
asacbluekuja: merge them01:32
asacthen close the older in upload01:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: they are already merged01:32
asack01:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok the older in upload01:33
asacyes ... you can close both as well01:33
asacdoesn't matter much01:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok01:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I'm pushing01:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)01:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://packages.linuxdc.it/unstable/result/verlihub_0.9.8d-RC1-1/verlihub_0.9.8d-RC1-1.lintian02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: library warnings cannot be fixed02:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as far as those lib files are included with verlihub02:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what do you think?02:19
asacW: verlihub source: source-contains-CVS-dir docs/html_manual/CVS02:24
asacthat should be fixed02:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea02:24
asac(though i admit that we are not doing it for mozillas ) :)02:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D02:24
asacloads of manpages ... would be nice to have ... but not really a hard requirement imo02:24
asacthere are tons of binaries that have no manpage02:24
asacthough i hate those binaries02:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol02:25
asacand would like to have stricter handling of that02:25
asacverlihub: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/libplug_pi.so.0.0.0 usr/lib/libplug_pi.so02:25
asacwhat is that?02:25
asaci mean ... what kind of lib is that02:25
asacis that ment for external use?02:25
asace.g. other programs making use of that lib02:25
asacor just internal use?02:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm...02:25
asaclibraries that are not ment to be exported must not end up in usr/lib02:26
asacbut in usr/lib/appname/02:26
asacE: verlihub: description-starts-with-package-name -> fixable i guess :)02:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I think just internal02:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah^^02:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) want me to ldd it?02:26
asacbluekuja: then fix the build system02:26
asacldd what?02:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the verlihub binary02:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to see where it points02:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for that lib02:27
asacit definitly points to /usr/lib atm02:27
asacyou have to change that02:27
asacall libs that are not ment to be exported have to go to the private directory02:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) a configure variable should be ok02:27
asacthose actually don't need an so name ... but it doesn't matter much if you keep them02:28
asacno02:28
asacits definitly broken02:28
asacin build system02:28
asace.g. the lib is declared to be "a real lib" ... while its not02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh02:28
asacactually i doubt that the libs are not ment to be exported02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea02:28
asacthough i don't know for sure02:28
asacat best verify upstream02:28
asacshould those libs be exported ... e.g. does he support ABI compatibility and maintain the soname properly02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) they are application-specifif libs02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *c02:29
asacif he has no idea what you are talking about, then we move them in the private dir until he understands02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so they have to go02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in /usr/lib/app-name02:29
asacyes02:29
asaclook in automake documentation on how to declare those02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's it02:29
asaci guess thats libtool02:29
asacpost build moving is definitly not the way to go ... so you have to fix Makefile.am files02:30
asacso read libtool + automake doc02:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok02:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I fix desc02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and then we are ok02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh and cvs02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) deleting that dir02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: libdir='${exec_prefix}/lib02:32
asaclibdir is wrong02:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup02:35
asacdon't tweak configure settings02:35
asaceven don't think about that :)02:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) haha02:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: cant see anything related to that in makefiles.am02:37
asacbluekuja: yeah read the automake doc02:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok02:38
asacin makefile.am you never explicitly say something02:38
asacits all declarative ... not programmatic02:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) reading manpage02:38
asacmanpage is completely useless02:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: --libdir?02:39
asacmanpage manual02:39
asacbluekuja: NO ... as i said02:39
asacread automake manual02:40
asacnothing less02:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i'm on it02:40
asacyou have to understand the automake approach02:40
asacotherwise you will still try to tweak things with command line arguments in a year :)02:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D02:40
asachttp://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html02:40
asacthat is the source of KNOW-HOW :)02:40
asacat best try the hello world ... then try to play around with how you get the program installed to a different directory02:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i'm reading the libtool space02:45
asaclibtool space?02:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *section02:46
asacyou will probably not find the info you need there :)02:46
asacits *much more* basic02:46
asac:)02:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah great02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D02:47
asace.g. which is why i said try to do it with a binary program02:47
asace.g. take the hello-world and find a way that the binary gets installed somewhere else :)02:47
asace.g. not in bin(dir)02:47
asac^^^^ hint!!!02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol02:47
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asacbluekuja: yeah there is really a hint in there!02:48
asac:)02:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) thanks for it02:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna ping you soon, with results02:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D02:48
asacmaybe http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Install02:49
asacto boost things02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) thanks02:50
asachttp://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#A-Library02:53
asacthe first sentence :)02:53
asacbluekuja: i am sorry if i ask too much :) ... the automake documentation is huge and not like for beginners ... which is why i provide you with links ... but at least try to figure out ;)02:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, automake is quite hard02:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and not easy to understand at first time02:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: why using configure variable is bad in this case?02:59
asacif you understand automake then you will see03:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok03:01
asachard to explain03:01
asacbasically you mess up library search paths03:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh ok03:01
asacjust read the links above03:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: using .noinst can work?03:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or I'm completely out of a possible solution03:28
asacpkglibdir03:31
asacinstead of lib03:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) waaa, was it03:32
asacas in the first sentence in the link above03:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I was thinking about that03:32
asacyeah ... now try to implement it :)03:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but cannot link the two things03:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I need to define LTLIBRARIES03:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and use pkglibdir variable03:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with it03:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g pkglib_LTLIBRARIES03:35
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DarkSun88Hi all03:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya03:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: and it will install correctly03:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in libdir/package03:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's what we want03:35
asacyes03:36
asacbluekuja: give it a try03:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so I need to define each lib03:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) by hand03:36
asacthen try to abstract what you learned on a higher leval03:36
asache?03:36
asacbluekuja: there should be LTLIBRARIES already03:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let me see03:36
asaci guess it should be lib_LTLIBRARIES for now03:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I hope so03:37
asacyou just change that03:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah03:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's already there03:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) didnt see03:37
asacof course it is :)03:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let's try03:37
asacunless he really messed things up :)03:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heheh03:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah03:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok03:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: fixed03:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now updating03:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with autotools03:38
asactry ... and see if all works well03:40
asacmaybe binary target now cannot find the shared libs03:40
asacand we have to do something about that03:40
asacbut just *maybe*03:40
asacdepends on how he did it03:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: to update using autotools03:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) should I run them in all dirs?03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that contain a change03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g src03:41
asacrun what?03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g lib03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) autotools03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to update03:41
asacwhat is "autotools" ?03:41
asaci mean there are multiple tools ;)03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) automake, autoconf03:41
asacif you touch Makefile.am files you just need to run automake03:41
asacits always in top level dir03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok03:41
asacactually you should have an autogen.sh03:41
asacusually you want to invoke that03:42
asacinstead of the tools individual (unless you know what you are doing)03:42
asacbut has not autogen.sh script ... so you have to it manually03:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup03:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: some errors with automake03:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) some undefinied variables03:45
asacthat are?03:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) src/Makefile.am:25: variable `PCRE_LIBS' not defined03:46
asacis it defined in configure?03:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8623203:46
asacthose should be in configure.ac03:47
asacplease verify03:47
asacprobably pkg-config checks03:47
asace.g. for mysql03:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: leaving for an hour03:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl03:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we can continue03:49
asack03:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: back05:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: there's no configure.ac05:03
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asacbluekuja: yeah you will figure it out05:18
asacthey probably use the legacy name for that05:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: do I have to create it?05:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) OH05:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *oh05:18
asacconfigure.ac is *NEW* name because configure.in was somehow ambiguous05:19
asaclots of projects still use configure.in05:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) good hint05:19
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm searching how can I define that variables06:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: installing libtool, I solved two of them06:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but PCRE_LIBS are still there06:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) same for mysql06:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and geo_ip06:43
asacdunno06:44
asaccan you see AC_SUBST ... for those?06:44
asacbluekuja: ^^06:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: AC_SUBST has been defienied for libcrypto only06:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) [AC_SUBST(CRYPT_LIBS,"-lcrypt")] )06:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) full line:06:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) AC_CHECK_LIB([crypt] , [crypt] ,[AC_SUBST(CRYPT_LIBS,"-lcrypt")] )06:46
asacis CRYPT_LIBS undefined as well?06:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope06:47
asacyes ... then thats nothing to care about06:47
asacwhat .m4 files do you have in tree (e.g. m4 files are libraries of configure macros)06:47
asacmaybe some of those defines the /missing/ libs06:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) acinclude.m4 and aclocal.m406:48
asacyou searched whole tree?06:48
asacin depth:)06:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, only two06:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) checked bzr06:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) tree06:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it can be a local m4 problem06:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g two different local dirs06:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) /usr/local06:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and /usr/share/local06:53
asacwhy bother about that?06:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm reading a mailing list post06:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) about a guy that had that problem06:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: anyway why CRYPT_LIBS are correct?06:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and mysql, geo-ip and pcre no?06:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) placed in the same makefile field06:56
asaci have no idea07:01
asacis the makefile broken?07:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g?07:01
asaci mean ... maybe it just works :)07:01
asacor does automake *really* abort07:02
asac?07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well, I've tried to build it07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but nothing change07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in fact automake aborts07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for those undefinied variables07:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and it doesnt complete the update07:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: upstream provides it broken then07:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: having those libs public in /usr/lib is bad?07:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (upstream doesnt care of it as libs are pointed that way)07:08
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let me know07:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)07:25
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DaveMorris guys mythbuntu has been dugged and we'r trying to find a tracker for the torrent files, any suggestions on where we can get one?07:55
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pochuhey bluekuja, you're in the NEW queue too :)01:40
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pochu: yup :)01:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol01:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 4 days01:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^01:40
DarkSun88G'night01:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usually they are processed on weekends01:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pochu: I'm leaving01:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) going to sleep01:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)01:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cu tomorrow!01:41
pochuGood night!01:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;01:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)01:41
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya12:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)12:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: where did you go yesterday?12:00
pochuMorning12:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya pochu12:05
pochuHi bluekuja :)12:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:05
asacbluekuja: me?12:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yea12:08
asaci received no more pings from you :)12:08
asacwhat did i miss?12:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: we have to decide about verlihub12:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is bad to have those libs public?12:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g in /usr/lib12:10
asacbluekuja: thats what upstream has to say ... do they care for ABI compatibility et al12:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well, if the push them there12:10
asacfor me it looks safe to ship them in pkglibdir for now12:10
asacand once we get upstream committement move them to a proper lib package et al12:10
asacbluekuja: never assume that people have a clue what they are doing12:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, you're right12:11
asacespecially if the library version is 0.0.0 ... they usually have no idea12:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I dont know how to fix those libs not specified12:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) while running automake12:11
asache?12:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I've tried adding some variables to specify it12:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but still get that error12:13
asacwhat happens?12:13
asaci have no idea what error you are getting :) ... you missed to tell me12:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8652412:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: adding libtool I dont get jM_MAINTAINER12:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) errors12:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but now we have those12:15
asacbluekuja: if you remove the Makefile.in Makefile files12:16
asacand run automake12:16
asacare Makefile.in files created or not?12:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup12:16
asacso what doesn't work then?12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) trying to delete12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) makefile.in12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and run automake again12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope12:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if I delete makefile.in12:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I still get those errors12:25
asacbluekuja: that is not the question12:25
asacread above12:25
asacmy last question :)12:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: oh :D12:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, they are created12:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if I delete them12:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I automake12:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I get new makefiles.in12:26
asacthen there is no problem12:26
asacso what is *the* problem12:27
asac?12:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nvm was misunderstanding something12:27
asac:)12:28
asacbluekuja: just try to build12:28
asacand see what happens12:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now I build to see if pkglib works12:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok12:28
asacyeah12:29
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: building12:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's quite long btw12:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^12:57
asaclong is relativ :)12:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) hehe yeah12:57
asacbluekuja: you have some spare mem?12:57
asacyou wanna do a ooo build?12:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: whats that?12:57
asacwe need a respin in dapper12:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh12:57
asacagainst our firefox 2 backport12:57
asacOpenOffice.org12:57
asac==12:57
asacooo12:58
asac:)12:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol12:58
asacactually you just need to setup a dapper chroot12:58
asacwith debootstrap12:58
asacthen install depends from our preview archive12:58
asace.g. ffox 212:58
asacand respin openoffice12:58
asacwhich my team member cannot build because he get OOM12:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: 3 hours of build?12:58
asacbluekuja: maybe ... but maybe its 18 hours12:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D12:59
asacdepends on the gcc in dapper12:59
asaci know that with some versions there was a single cpp file that took 1.5 hours to compile :)12:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh cool12:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :P12:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well yeah, when I finish with verli12:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I can try it01:00
asacthat would be awesome01:00
asacits like you need 4 G spare diskspace and at least 1GB of memory i guess01:00
asacmaybe 8 GB disk ... no idea01:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D01:00
asacif you have a recent disk you should have enough space available01:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I have 500 GB01:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) space01:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^01:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: done, let's see if it worked01:06
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: usr/lib/verlihub/01:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)01:07
asacbluekuja: does ldd on binaries look good as well?=01:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) checking01:08
asacand please paste the content of that directory somewhere01:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: damn, I forgot to add pkg to usr/lib/libplug_pi.so01:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/libplug_pi.so.001:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/libdiakritika_pi.so.001:09
asache?01:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) each lib got a variable01:09
asacwhy are those still in /usr/lib ... shouldn't they end up in /usr/lib/verlihub=01:09
asacah ok01:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I forgot to do for those as well01:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) -.-01:10
asacbut is does it point properly to the lib that is now in pkglibdir?01:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8653901:10
asacyeah ... but does ldd reference the libs in pkglibdir as well?01:11
asacat best fix the variables first :)01:11
asacand then take a look01:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) checking01:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I paste you ldd01:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8654001:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's right01:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I need to find out where libdiakritica hides01:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) libplug too01:14
asacfine01:14
asacyou will figure the rest out01:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: and then we have a lintian clean package01:14
asaconce the libs are in pkglibdir01:14
asacwe can push ... then go to upstream and interview if he cares about sonames et al01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: gonna fix it, desc, and CVS01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I push01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for you01:15
asaccool01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)01:15
asaci mean ... i will review ... but i guess it should be fine (though no guarantees)01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok01:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: separated checkins as alwais?01:17
asacsure01:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) great01:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) !01:17
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)01:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it worked!01:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libdiakritika_pi.so01:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libverlihub.so.001:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libvhapi.so.001:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libverlihub.so01:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libvhapi.so01:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libplug_pi.so01:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) usr/lib/verlihub/libplug_pi.so.001:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now I start to checkin01:59
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya pochu_01:59
pochu_Hello :)01:59
asacyeah01:59
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asacbluekuja: can you figure out if there is a -version passed in some makefile?02:00
asacimo those libs should not be versioned now anymore02:00
asacola pochu02:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope02:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no -version02:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in libs makefiles02:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: is that ok?02:01
asacyeah02:01
asacprobably we can live with that02:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok02:01
asacstill i am wondering why it generates version info at all02:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I start with first checkin02:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that fix pkglib02:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then I update02:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in the second02:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and third i fix minor things like desc, and CVS02:03
asacwhat do you mean by CVS?02:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) deleting CVS dirs02:03
asachow do you do  that?02:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: huh?02:04
asacdo you just bzr rm ?02:04
asacor in rules?02:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup02:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bzr rm02:04
asacah ... ok02:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)02:04
asacand desc?02:04
asacwhy do you want to mix desc + CVS ?02:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah02:04
asacfor me CVS deserves its own single checkin02:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah02:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) right02:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so separated02:05
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DarkSun88Hi all02:23
asacola02:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ola02:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: should I remove docs/.cvsignore too?02:24
DarkSun88Hey bluekuja02:24
DarkSun88Hi asac02:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya DarkSun8802:24
asacbluekuja: yes ... if you remove CVS ... that is sane02:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: you can build now02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: everything is ok :)02:28
asaci have no local branch so i can't update ... give me the urls please :)02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup, just a mom02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/debian.source02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/upstream.source02:29
asacbluekuja: why do you always paste with some prefix I ?02:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: what do you mean? :)02:30
asac14:29 < bluekuja> asac:  Ihttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/debian.source02:31
asacthats what i get here02:31
asacwhenever you paste something02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0_002:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) strange02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I see it normal02:31
asacyeah ... you probably paste some spurious content02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I get it from lp02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I paste it here02:31
asacits bad because i have to select and cannot just click02:31
asacmaybe paste different (e.g. middle-mouse)02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/debian.source02:31
asace.g. first select ... then02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it works now?02:31
asacyes02:32
asacthat works02:32
asacthanks02:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/upstream.source02:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)02:32
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let me know when you have build results02:37
asacbluekuja: i can do in 1h02:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: sounds great02:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)02:57
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya freeflying !03:01
freeflyingbluekuja: hi03:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: news?04:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let me know when you start ;)04:30
asacall got a bit pushed back, because i have to figure something out :)04:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok, do you think you can make it for today?04:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g evening or later04:32
asachope so04:36
asaci will just do when i do :)04:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol04:36
asaci promiss i will do asap04:36
asac:)04:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)04:36
asacmaybe 5 minutes ... maybe 2h :)04:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D04:37
asac7win1204:40
asacups ;)04:40
asaccaps lock04:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)04:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: suddenly build fails at:07:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `)'07:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `if test ! -f )] .in; then \'07:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) make[1] : *** [)] .in] Error 207:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 30 minutes ago worked07:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now I get that07:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) -.-07:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: maybe is just my problem07:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) here07:06
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asachehe ... good that i haven't tried yet07:25
asachave to go shopping in a few07:25
asacthen i will look at your stuff07:25
asacso be prepared :)07:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: found the trick07:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I didnt run aclocal07:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) before automake07:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now running aclocal-->automake works07:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it will be all ready when you return :)07:26
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: when everything is ok, I ping you08:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)08:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 10 mins more or less08:34
asacgood08:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)08:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: pushed and published08:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now you can build :)08:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/debian.source08:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/upstreamsource08:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) damn08:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/upstream.source08:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^08:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: common ancestor worked?09:07
asacbluekuja: installing build-dep09:32
asacwill look at it during the meeting09:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) @schedule rome09:32
(ubotu/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Schedule for Europe/Rome: 07 Jun 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jun 17:00: Kernel Team | 13 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 16 Jun 19:00: Xubuntu Developers | 19 Jun 21:00: Technical Board09:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cool development team today09:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok great :)09:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: when verli is pushed I move to package verlihub-stats09:33
asacmove ahead09:33
asacthere is no need to feel blocked because of verlihub09:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I need that depends09:34
asacif I always would be blocked because one thing is not finished, I wouldn't get things done09:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if not I cannot build09:34
asacbluekuja: ah09:34
asacbluekuja: yeah ... but you have the package09:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah yup09:34
asac:)09:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I open the itp09:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)09:34
asaceven good to sort issues out that might evolve because of that09:34
asacbluekuja: thats a good start ;)09:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)09:34
asacbluekuja: bzr remembers file-attributes09:35
asacplease commit debian/rules as executable09:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok, it failed for ti?09:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *it?09:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: pushed09:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 1-2 minutes and we should have an executable file09:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)09:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) published09:39
asacyeah ... i have fixed locally09:39
asac;)09:39
asacso i was not really blocked :)09:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)09:39
asacbut good to have ;)09:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup09:40
asacok i will be back after meeting09:52
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: great09:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)09:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm writing the itp09:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then I start with stats09:53
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: build was ok?11:02
asacdoing a sid build now11:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: great11:20
asac0.9.8d-RC1-111:20
asacthe version might be wrong11:20
asacwhat kind of RC is that?11:20
asacwhat will be the next released version?11:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mmm..11:21
asacfurther ... using RC1 as package revision is wrong as well11:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let me see the tree11:21
asacor what do you want to express with RC1 ?11:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nothing, I used upstream syntax11:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we can drop it11:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8b11:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8c-RC111:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8c-RC211:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8D-RC211:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *0.9.8d-RC211:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the tree11:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: the problem is11:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if upstream releases 0.9.8c-RC211:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what we do?11:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if we have 0.9.8c11:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) already in11:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: so we can use RC111:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in my opinion11:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to follow upstream releases closely11:27
asacbluekuja: actually the version is messed up then11:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: how it should be?11:29
asacquestion is what does upstream intent to release11:29
asacwill they release 0.9.8c?11:29
asacor d?11:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) both already releases11:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *d11:29
asaci mean its not clear by just looking at the version what they do11:29
asac?11:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8c-RC111:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8c-RC211:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8d-RC211:30
asacso they never release final?11:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is upstream tree11:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nope11:30
asaclike never a 0.9.8d?11:30
asacits your decision11:30
asacfact is that the dash has to go away11:30
asacin upstream version11:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: suggestions for it=11:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ?11:31
asacs/-/./11:33
asacor11:33
asacs/-/+/11:33
asaci prefer the former11:33
asacbecause double clicking on something with + in filename messes up selection of text in gnome-terminal11:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah11:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so 0.9.8d.RC111:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8d.RC1-111:34
asaclooks good11:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup11:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) really nice11:34
asacthough i hate upper case :)11:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) same11:34
asacit looks windowish11:34
asacyou can use rc1 ;)11:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol11:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8d.rc1-111:34
asacyeah11:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) looks good too11:34
asacthat looks decent11:34
asaclike a decent release11:35
asacactually not like a decent release :)11:35
asacanyway11:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D11:35
asacit looks like a release candidate11:35
asacwhich i assume would be followed by a final 0.9.8d at some point11:35
asacif that is ever going to happen we should use11:35
asac0.9.8d~rc111:35
asacwhich means that we are < then 0.9.8d11:36
asacbut looking at release history i have not idea whats the plan11:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah11:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so 0.9.8d-rc1-111:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *.11:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is the best11:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) we can have now11:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so 0.9.8d.rc1-111:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^11:36
asacactually the most secure is my last post11:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 0.9.8d~rc1?11:37
asace.g. assume that rcX is really a release candidate aiming to release a plain version at some point11:37
asacyeah11:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, it's ok too11:37
asac(thats upstream version)11:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup11:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sounds great11:37
asaclook at what version i uploaded to thunderbird gutsy11:37
asacwhen 2.0.0.4 final comes out i can just upload with 2.0.0.4-1 :) ... which is higher than 2.0.0.4~rc1-111:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D11:38
asaclets go the tilde way11:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea11:38
asacas we cannot look into his mind11:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) +111:38
asacand if we really releases 0.9.8d at some point11:38
asacwe would need to fix version by an epoch:11:39
asac1:0.9.8d11:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok11:39
asacor do something like 0.9.8d.Xfinal11:39
asacyou understand why?11:39
pochuThe Debian NEW queue hasn't been worked out :/11:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pochu: yeah, 5 days11:39
asacwhat do you expect11:40
asac?11:40
asacyou can be happy if things don't get to a month11:40
asacand given that iceape is in ubuntu NEW now for about 2-3 weeks11:40
pochuLoL :)11:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: can you explain me 1: ver ?11:40
asac... ubuntu is not better at all :)11:40
pochuasac: I'm not complaining ;)11:41
asacbluekuja: look up "epoch"11:41
asacin debian developer guide11:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah11:41
asacthere is a section about versioning11:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gonna check it11:41
pochuI'm happy with how Debian works, ATM :)11:41
asacdunno if the ~ feature is already in there11:41
asacbut epoche definitly is11:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pochu: same11:41
asacpochu: yeah ... agreed11:41
asacotoh ... if new is processed so eagerly it means that someone burns out :)11:42
asacif this *someone* has a real burn out we will end up with 3 month NEW time :)11:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol11:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: still building?11:44
asacobviously not :)11:45
asacit built11:45
asacneed new version :)11:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: want me to push it now?11:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) one second work11:46
asacbluekuja: if i do it here i will end up with a conflict11:46
asacanyway now done11:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)11:46
asacbluekuja: you checked-in cruft11:48
asace.g. stamp-h11:48
asacit has been removed during build11:48
asacbut apparently is in bzr11:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: strange11:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) didnt see it11:49
asacyou have to remove it from upstream tree11:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I deleted stamp-h1.in11:49
asacno11:49
asacthats bad11:49
asac.in is likely source11:49
asacstamp-h is the result11:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah11:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it was stamp-h211:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^11:49
asacshare/sql/default_pi_plug.sql11:49
asacthat file is modified after build11:49
asacthat is definitly something that needs to be resolved11:50
asacas it definitly goes unnoticed if you don't work with a revision system11:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: which kind of changes?11:50
asacasac@hector:~/ubuntu_motu/bluekuja/verlihub.debian$ bzr statusremoved: stamp-h11:50
asacmodified: share/sql/default_pi_plug.sql11:50
asacups11:50
asacunknown: libtool docs/Makefile src/make_time.h11:50
asacwait11:50
asachttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/8663711:51
asacthats the cruft after abuild11:51
asacafter a build all should be clean11:51
asacas on initial checkout11:51
asacafter a build: build + clean11:51
asaclibtool should be versioned in upstream tarball11:52
asace.g. in .upstream branch11:52
asacthe rest is cruft11:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: should I add a clean rule for them?11:54
asacbluekuja: how?11:54
asachow will you fix the "in-source" modified files in a clean rule?11:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nice question :P11:54
asacfor the Makefile you might use clean11:54
asacbut better figure out why this wasn't removed on distclean11:54
asac... on make distclean11:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I dont know where I can start11:56
asacfor makefile leftover11:57
asaclook in Makefile.am11:57
asacthe docs SUBDIR is not even used11:57
asac-> either add docs/ ... or remove the docs/Makefile from configure.ac11:57
asacso it doesn't get created11:57
asaci guess the latter should be the way to go for now11:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: so for now, only the makefile can be safely deleted?11:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with that11:58
asacno your fix is to not generate it at all11:58
asacthe removed stamp-h will be fixed once its dropped from .upstream11:59
asacthe generated make_time.h is a pita11:59
asacyou can fix it proper or just remove it in rules (clean)11:59
asacbut post a bug upstream11:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok11:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so11:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 1) stamp-h in .upstream11:59
asac1a) merge over that change to .debian tree12:00
asacbut yes... go ahead12:00
asac:)12:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 2) make_time.h deleted in debian/rules12:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with a clean rule12:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 3) makefile12:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) from docs12:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) deleting it from makefile.am12:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to merge that change to the debian tree12:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I can just do 2 checkins12:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) one for upstream12:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and one for debian12:02
asacfor 3) read what i wrote above12:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) <asac> -> either add docs/ ... or remove the docs/Makefile from configure.ac12:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) this?12:03
asacyes12:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok12:03
asacthats different from what you said12:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^12:03
asacyou need more checkins12:03
asac1. checkin .upstream12:03
asac2. checkin merge from .upstream to .debian12:03
asac3. checkin fix for configure.ac12:03
asac4. checkin update of configure (e.g. autogenerated)12:04
asac5. checkin fix for rules (e.g. because of make_time.h)12:04
asac6. checkin update of changelog :)12:04
asacprobably thats it :)12:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol12:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it *seems* easy12:05
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :P12:05
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asacyeah :)12:05
asacok ... its night here ... i am out ... almost12:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: 0.06 here12:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: need to see how to merge that change12:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dont remember how bzr merge works12:07
asacbluekuja: you will figure out :)12:07
asaci guess there are instructions in wiki.ubuntu.com12:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :D12:07
asacotherwise bzr help COMMAND12:07
asachelps12:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I think you'll have all ready for tomorrow12:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) morning12:08
asacbluekuja: cool :)12:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I finish all now12:08
asacyeah sorry for being picky :) ... others might have missed this cruft thing12:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: dont worry :)12:08
asacactually i would have missed it if we weren't using bzr12:08
asacwhere i can just run bzr status12:08
asacafter clean12:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D12:08
asacand see what else happened12:08
asacah ... bluekuja share/sql/default_pi_plug.sql12:09
asacthat one12:09
asacmaybe you find the reason why its left there modified12:09
asacits definitly bad12:09
asacif you don't find a solution you can create a backup at the start of biuld somewhere12:09
asacand move the backup on clean back to the original file12:09
asacthats dirty12:09
asacbut better than to blow up the diff.gz12:09
asacanyway, please find the cause for this12:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: so to bzr12:09
asacits pretty annoying if people modify sources in-tree12:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) what should I do with it?12:10
asacas i said ... find the source12:10
asacbut first you can do 1-6 above12:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah12:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^12:10
asacfind the cause i mean (not the source)12:10
asac:)12:10
asac./share/Makefile.in:EXTRA_DIST = sql/default_pi_plug.sql.in12:11
asac./share/Makefile.in:nobase_data_DATA = sql/default_pi_plug.sql12:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I leave it for last12:11
asaclook at that12:11
asacit might give you a clue whats going on12:11
asachint: .in is the source ... .sql is just the product12:11
asacand should not be in source tree at all12:11
asace.g. like stamp-h12:11
asacbut needs to be cleaned up in make clean12:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but it doesnt12:12
asacyeah12:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nice12:12
asacotherwise we would have seen it as removed: ... like the stamp-h12:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah12:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: should I delete it as stamp-h?12:13
asacyeah12:13
asacas a first step12:13
asacthen you have to fix makefiles12:13
asace.g. so it gets removed on distclean12:13
asacyou can use a debian/rules clean hack as well12:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea12:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) like config.log12:14
asacbut maybe its a challenge to figure things out12:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I'm quite lost now12:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for the last problem12:14
asacthings take time12:14
asaceven if it takes a week to figure out12:14
asacits not a problem12:14
asacthats how things work in software12:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^12:15
asacyou will rarely find someone for who knows or has the will to look into specific problems of you12:15
asacso  learn to figure out :)12:15
asac;)12:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D12:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let's start with 1-6 then12:15
asacyeah :)12:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: other problem is the last12:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so I'll look at it when 1-6 is done12:16
asacsure12:16
asacyou can definitly drop the .sql file from .upstream12:16
asacand merge that fix over to .debian12:16
asace.g. like you do for stamp-h12:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) default_pi_plug.sql?12:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok12:16
asac... so add a 1b and 1c )12:16
asacok ... night :)12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: night alex12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: sleep well12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :P12:17
asacu212:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cu tomorrow12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: found doc makefile12:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile12:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) src/Makefile12:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) docs/Makefile12:33
asac;)12:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: :)12:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: stupid question12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) make_time.h12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) should be removed12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) by curdir12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or curdir/debian12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or curdir/debian/verlihub12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I'm sure of curdir12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but dont want to miss12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and mess up things12:41
asacremove it in debian/rules12:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah12:42
asachow ... its up to you ;)12:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but it have to be removed12:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) from source12:42
asacah12:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or12:42
asacyes12:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok12:42
asacremove it from .upstream branch12:42
asacthen merge that checkin over to .debian :)12:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I add a clean rule12:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok12:42
asacyes12:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) great tnx12:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gnight12:43
asacnow really out :)12:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)12:43
asachad to discuss something with mozillteam i didn't came to do this day12:43
asacso now12:43
asacbye12:43
asacthanks12:43
asacgnight as well12:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) cyaz12:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dont worry12:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:44
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: autoconf messed up things....01:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: @install_sh@ -c -m 644 sql/default_pi_plug.sql /tmp/buildd/verlihub-0.9.8d~rc1/debian/verlihub/usr/share/verlihub/sql/default_pi_plug.sql01:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) /bin/sh: line 4: @install_sh@: command not found01:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: let me know tomorrow01:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gnight all01:45
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya guys10:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: seen what I've written you yesterday night?10:56
asacmail?10:57
asacyeah install_sh is not substituted10:57
asacyou messed up something10:57
asac(e.g. unrelated to the .sql file)10:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup10:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: running autoconf10:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) messed up all10:58
asaceither install is not found during configure10:58
asacautoconf never missed up a thing for me :)10:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol10:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well, that happened after modifing configure.ac10:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and updating with autoconf10:59
asachow did you modify?10:59
asacthe diff?10:59
asacshow it to me11:00
asac(of configure.ac)11:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: want me the diff between post-update and before-update?11:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I changed11:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) AC_CONFIG_FILES([Makefile11:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) src/Makefile11:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) scripts/Makefile11:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) share/Makefile11:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) plugins/Makefile11:01
asacno ... the diff of your configure.ac changes11:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) deleting docs/Makefile11:01
asacagain you have pasting problems :)11:01
asac bluekuja> II src/Makefile11:01
asac11:01 < bluekuja> II scripts/Makefile11:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol11:01
asacdid you remove the .sql from bzr already?11:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yup11:01
asacgood11:01
asacshow me the diff11:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the diff of what I said before?11:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) <bluekuja> asac: want me the diff between post-update and before-up11:02
asaci can't parse that11:02
asacjust give me the diff of the last 3 modifications you made to configure.ac11:03
asace.g. but please just configure.ac :)11:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: oki11:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)11:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8672211:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) diff between old and new11:07
asacbluekuja: why don't you use bzr diff?11:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D11:08
asacthat diff might be completely unrelated :) ... please give me the real bzr diffs11:08
asacyou applied to configure.ac11:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok11:08
asac(e.g. for the last 5 revisions)11:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8672411:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8672511:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8672611:12
asacsorry ... there is something wrong11:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8672711:13
asaci mean i just asked for configure.ac11:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) last one11:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^11:13
asacconfigure.ac11:13
asac^^11:13
asacread11:13
asac;)11:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol11:13
asacthere is not a single checkin for that11:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8672811:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is configure.ac one11:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course you have to see it as -11:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because I did the diff between 9 and 811:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and not 8 to 911:17
asacyeah please do it right next time11:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah sorry11:17
asacthe other diffs are wrong direction as well i guess11:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea11:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: leaving docs/Makefile as it is11:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is a problem?11:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g to not mess up all11:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as it happened11:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm leaving for a while, need to do some shopping and so on11:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) be back later11:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so we can finish11:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) leave me some ideas11:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)11:19
asacit should not mess up anything11:19
asactry to run autoconf on unmodified tree11:20
asacand see if mess starts as well11:20
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: back12:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now I try to run autoconf on original tree12:28
asacyep12:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let's see12:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: mmmm...12:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it built12:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) this is strange12:38
asacbluekuja: try to just apply the configure.ac12:38
asacpatch12:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to a original tree?12:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and then I update12:39
asacbluekuja: its your way to figure out :)12:39
asacdo what you need :)12:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)12:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oki12:39
asaci mean ... you have done distinct checkins12:39
asacso you can try one by one12:39
asac... and see which breaks your built12:39
asacthats the idea of checkin in distinctly12:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well, with this built I've checked 2-3 checkins12:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) the ones from debian/12:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now I need to apply configure.ac patch12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and see if it breaks12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) everything12:41
asacbluekuja: if you are sure that "before" aconfigure.ac it builts12:41
asacthen yes12:41
asacotherwise you need to find the intruder12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well yeah, I've tested it right now12:41
asacbluekuja: anyway ... don't try to remember "that it built at some point"12:41
asactest now if it really builts in the state that you belive it builds12:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok12:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it builds -.-12:52
asacyeah ... so where is the problem?12:53
asacwhat patch didn't you apply?12:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I did the same things of yesterday12:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) damn12:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but yesterday failed12:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ..12:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with that error12:53
asacyeah ... so lesson learned: "work organised ... review what you did ... ensure that you have a clean tree state before build" :)12:54
asacok lunch ... if things are pushed i can look after lunch12:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, maybe I found the trick12:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now i used12:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) autoconf 2.5912:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) before 2.6012:55
asacthat should not be a big problem12:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh ok12:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^12:55
asacif you changed autoconf you need to update the configure update checkin12:55
asacremember that12:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, I'm pushing another update12:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with a comment12:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)12:55
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: good lunch12:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)12:59
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok, I found out what's wrong01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: running only autoconf, work without problems01:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: running automake+autoconf fails01:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's it01:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it mess things up01:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: so it should be ok to add a clean rule for that file, without messing everything up with configure01:17
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asacbluekuja: didn't we touch Makefile.am intentionally?02:12
asacautomake *should* work02:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah02:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) automake works02:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but automake + autoconf not02:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) just tested it02:12
DarkSun88Hi all02:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya DarkSun88 :)02:12
DarkSun88Hi bluekuja02:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)02:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: automake is necessary02:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for libs changes02:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in my opinion we can skip modifing configure.ac02:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and add a clean rule02:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for it02:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as we did for make_time.h02:13
asacno02:13
asacit should all work02:13
asacwe have to figure out02:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I know that should work02:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but i dont undersand why it mess things up02:14
asacso now it works?02:14
asace.g. without updating makefiles?02:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yea02:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: only *autoconf* works02:14
asaci mean if you now build it succeeds?02:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yup02:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I used a fresh copy02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I updated02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with autoconf02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and worked02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I tried02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with autoconf+automake02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) build fails02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with @install.sh@02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) error02:15
asaci mean is your current local copy working?02:15
asacand have you run autoconf already02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: if I run autoconf on my local copy it fails02:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I've tried on a fresh copy without running automake02:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) then I moved to the bzr local branch02:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (already automaked)02:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I updated with autoconf02:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and --> build fails02:16
asachow do you build?02:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: using pbuilder02:16
asacyeah ... don't do that02:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I test it in sid directly02:17
asacuse local copy02:17
asacuntil you figure things out02:17
asaconly if all is done use pbuilder02:17
asacotherwise you end up with something in pbuilder root that might be different from what you have locally02:17
asacactually i would suggest that you don't build debian package02:17
asacbut try to build as normal02:18
asace.g. just manually use configure02:18
asacand make02:18
asacno debian/rules and nothgin02:18
asacusing pbuilder is just *too* confusing ... there are too many things that might fail02:18
asacor might be not-obvious02:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok02:19
asac1st step ... get used to how to build sources without debian/rules02:19
asacits far better to evaluate such things02:19
asace.g. things that are not directly related to debian packaging02:19
asacchecking for working aclocal-1.4... found02:22
asacchecking for working autoconf... found02:22
asacchecking for working automake-1.4... found02:22
asacchecking for working autoheader... found02:22
asac-> use automake-1.402:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: ok02:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lets try with 1-402:23
asacfor me it just works02:23
asacat least the latest from bzr02:23
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, latest from bzr is the right one02:24
asacasac@hector:~/ubuntu_motu/bluekuja/verlihub.debian$ bzr stat02:24
asacmodified: configure02:24
asacunknown: share/sql/default_pi_plug.sql02:24
asacso ... default_pi_plug.sql is not properly removed02:24
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: nope02:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I removed everything02:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) except it02:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: the question is...how?02:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)02:25
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you told me to not use a clean rule for it02:26
asacwe talked about that yesterday ... i am pretty sure02:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (I've removed it from the tree)02:26
asacyes thats right02:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but it stills get created02:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) mm02:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I've investigated into sql.in file02:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and into makefile.in02:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) into /share/02:27
asacyes02:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but it seems that its needed for the build02:28
asacits generated02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) generated?02:28
asacso it should be removed by distclean (-> make not rules)02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ah yeah02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) generated02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) right02:28
asacits generated by configure02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) from .in02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup02:28
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: share/sql/default_pi_plug.sql02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sorry for II02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: share/sql/default_pi_plug.sql02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is in makefile02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *configure02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) .in02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: if i remove it from there02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (like i did for docs/Makefile)02:29
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it should be clena02:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *clean02:30
asacbluekuja: no you *have* to generate it02:30
asac(while Makefile was just superfluous)02:30
asacbluekuja: so you have to take care that it gets removed on distclean02:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: that's not easy02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: in Makefile.in02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in /share02:31
asacbluekuja: please look in share02:31
asacwhat is missing there?02:31
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) there is a libtool distclean02:31
asacthere is a file missing02:31
asaceither its never been in there02:31
asacor you removed it02:31
asacby accident i guess02:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: configure?02:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) makefile is there02:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) makefile.in is there02:32
asacno its not02:32
asacthere is no makefile.am02:32
asacwhatever happened to it02:32
asacthats most likely the root cause for this02:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: you said that .am can be named .in too02:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g someone still use that02:33
asacnever said that02:33
asacno02:33
asacnever02:33
asacconfigure.ac == configure.in02:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ahhh02:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah02:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^02:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you're right02:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) misunderstood02:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it has not been deleted02:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) upstream didnt provide it02:34
asacits not even in .upstream tree02:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah02:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because upstream didnt add it02:35
asacyeah ... then we either have to do it on our own or we cannot package it02:35
asacbug upstream02:35
asacthats a mess02:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, gonna send a mail with all stuff02:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: how can we make a Makefile.am there?02:35
asacdunno02:36
asacyou have to figure out what upstream intends to do02:36
asacand then write one from scratch02:36
asacbluekuja: you already know the basics ... but maybe you will figure out02:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: mmm02:36
asachttp://verlihub.cvs.sourceforge.net/verlihub/verlihub/share/Makefile.in?revision=1.1&view=markup&pathrev=MAIN02:37
asacyou know how automake variables look like02:37
asacthey should be still findable in that file02:37
asacso just extract those lines that are relevant from that dirty piece of shit02:37
asacand add them to a Makefile.am02:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol02:38
asacEXTRA_DIST02:38
asacnobase_dist_data_DATA02:38
asacnobase_data_DATA02:38
asacmaybe thats it02:39
asacotherwise digg through the Makefile.in02:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: done02:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8675302:39
asacdon't show me02:39
asacwork on it until it works :)02:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: that's the makefile.am dropped by upstream02:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)02:40
asacwhere do you have it from?02:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: previous release02:40
asacyeah then pull it in02:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) they dropped it02:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for an error02:40
asacbug them02:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup02:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now I add it02:40
asacthere package ftbfs02:40
asacyes02:40
asacwhere do you see that they dropped it "for an error" ?02:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: netcelli told me it02:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (developer)02:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g they forgot to add it02:41
asacactually i hate to fix upstreams problem02:41
asacthey should fix it ... if they want to get distributed02:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) same, but in this case it's necessary02:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) new release will have it02:42
asacno ... usually i would just not package it02:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)02:42
asacbluekuja: ask him if he can just check it into cvs?02:42
asacnow02:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: he left02:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: was on dc++02:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: gonna mail him later02:43
asacyeah02:43
asacyou can try the makefile.am02:43
asacbut please clean up indenting and remove commented cruft02:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: anyway I think that maintainer should do this for a software he loves02:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I used verlihub for years02:44
asacbluekuja: yeah :)02:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: you know what I mean :)02:45
asacbluekuja: its your decision :)02:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I think you did the same for mozilla stuff02:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)02:45
asacdunno ... they never forget a file :)02:46
asacat least not in something released02:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)02:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: it builds02:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (not in pbuilder)02:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but I tried as you suggested02:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now I delete those comments inside makefile.am02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I push02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I update with automake02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so it should be ready for you02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)02:47
asacyeah02:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: where should I fix indenting?02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you said before02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in which way02:49
asacin such a way that it looks nice :)02:49
asacbut its not really critical02:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well it looks nice now02:49
asacthen fine02:50
asaci just saw the pastebin02:50
asac"no revisions to pull" atm02:50
asacok will look in a few minutes02:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah02:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) pushing02:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and updating02:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: done03:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you can build03:06
asacbluekuja: ok03:14
asacnow you have to remove the .sql file in distclean::03:14
asac(in the new makefile:))03:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D03:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac:03:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) distclean:03:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) -rm -f file03:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) is right?03:17
asacnot really ... :) see what i wrote ;)03:18
asacbut you are close :)03:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) distclean::03:18
asacaha!03:18
asac;)03:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and under commands03:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D03:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) let's do it03:18
asacbut give it a try03:18
asacyou can check after fakeroot ./debian/rules clean03:18
asacif bzr stat yields zero output03:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yea03:19
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I get only03:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) two modified files03:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) makefile.am and .in03:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of course03:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for the change03:21
asacyes03:21
asaclooks good03:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no uknown03:21
asacat last :)03:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup^^03:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: now I push it into bzr03:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I ping you when done03:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: done03:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: available for build now03:27
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: target file `distclean' has both : and :: entries. Stop.03:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: build failed03:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol03:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: distclean:03:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) was ok03:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) upstream's Makefile.in got only :03:39
asachmm03:41
asacso using distclean: works?03:41
asacthen use that03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to push03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 2 more revisions03:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^03:41
asacbluekuja: did you push the messed distclean revision already?03:41
asacotherwise you can still uncommit locally03:42
asacso we don't have too much garbage checkins in published repo :)03:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) already pushed03:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :/03:42
asacah ok03:42
asacno problem03:42
asacremember to test before pushing in future03:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup03:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok03:42
asacplease remember to remember :)03:42
asacas well ;)03:42
asac15:18 < asac> but give it a try03:43
asac15:18 < asac> you can check after fakeroot ./debian/rules clean03:43
asac15:18 < asac> if bzr stat yields zero output03:43
asacso why did your test work?03:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dunno03:43
asacor didn't you test at all?03:43
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it worked03:44
asacha03:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no03:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it definitely worked03:44
asacthat is plainly not true03:44
asacwhy should it stop03:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol03:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm sure03:44
asacyeah ... after all computers are deterministic03:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that it worked03:44
asacso if it worked back then ... it *will* work now03:44
asacits ok :)03:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: I'm checking03:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with :03:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) instead of ::03:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) if it works03:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I push03:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and we are ok03:45
asacyour one big "missing feature" is working organized and thoughtful03:45
asacbluekuja: double check!03:45
asaceven triple check03:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah03:45
asacbranch locally to see if it works if you start with bzr03:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: at school same03:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^03:45
asacbluekuja: but i think you will fix your "missing feature" :)03:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, it will be great!03:45
asacbluekuja: but i think you will not fix it until i let you chew on your own dirty mess for 24 hours :)03:46
asacotherwise you don't see the tradeoff :)03:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D03:46
asaci mean you don't feel the pain :)03:46
asacthat fast actions cause03:46
asacso better try to fix it so I can help right away :)03:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: well, i'm a little less superficial03:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g having clean files there doesnt matter03:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you know what I mean03:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:47
asacbluekuja: if it doesn't matter now03:47
asacyou will run into serious troubles later03:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah03:48
asacbluekuja: i just help you to get things clean03:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: keep doing it please03:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to do everything perfect03:48
asacso the package becomes a joy and ease to maintain ;)03:48
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asacbluekuja: yeah ... but try to help me as well :) ... by thinking/checking/double checking :)03:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah, sounds good! :)03:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: worked03:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) now it doesnt fail03:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) with @install.sh@03:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) too03:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) GREAT03:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) woohoo03:52
asacyeah03:52
asachope you checked that before you pushed03:53
asacbecause i already received your push :)03:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: not pushed yet03:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)03:53
asacoh right03:53
asacthat was the makefile.am stuff03:53
asacok ... take your time testing03:53
asacbranch locally (e.g. bzr branch /path/to/local/dir/ /path/to/new/test/dir03:54
asac)03:54
asachehe03:54
asacand so on03:54
asac:)03:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: yeah done03:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: i tested with branch local copy03:54
asacyeah ... dif you clean03:55
asacdid you clean and look at bzr stat03:55
asac?03:55
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: clean03:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: i'm leaving03:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) really late03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I've pushed03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) all03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) should be ok to build now03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) be back later03:58
asacyeah ... i will be away for the weekend :)03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) (1 hour)03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) same03:58
asacat the sea03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) same03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D03:58
asaci will look if its fine then I will push03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ok03:58
asacotherwise ... time in on our side :)03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol03:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bbl 1 hour03:58
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) who is JonathanArg05:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) asac: was it ok?05:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) lol, asac already left for beach :P05:22
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) freeflying, heya05:46
freeflyingbluekuja: hi05:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :)05:47
javierderhi bluekuja07:26
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heya javierder07:27
javierderhey. do you remember the package i was working on? well, there's a big issue around that. i found out that theres a similar proyect and talked with the people from that similar proyect07:28
javierderthey told me the one i was working on (torrentswapper) was a copy of their proyect with bundled spyware...07:28
javierderand also told me they where working in a package for ubuntu. i told them to contact me when they have it ready, and they did sent the package to me.07:28
javierderthis package is called Tribler. i'm testing it now. what should i do with it? send it to who?07:30
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) phone, one mom07:32
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) two fathers?07:32
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) done07:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, huh? :D07:33
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, send it to me07:33
javierderok07:33
javierderyour email is...?07:34
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: you said, one mom :P07:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, lol07:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, bluekuja@ubuntu/edubuntu07:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, please orig.tar.gz07:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dsc07:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and diff.gz07:34
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)07:34
javierderbluekuja, they sent me only the .deb.07:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, -.-07:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's bad07:35
javierderi'll ask them for that data. np07:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, send it07:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I check something07:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but i need those for a complete review07:35
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, are you a packager too?07:36
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, for ebuilds?07:36
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup07:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, I'm interested in learning them07:37
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, also for the group you work07:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as far as its related to torrents07:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and other p2p07:38
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) apps07:38
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's not hard :)07:39
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) i'd say is more easy than packaging deb stuff07:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, cool07:39
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, do you any guide?07:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, I dont think that this is a good desc:07:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) The fastest way of social file sharing07:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Homepage: http://www.tribler.org07:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^07:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it has to be rich07:40
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://devmanual.gentoo.org07:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) of points07:40
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, nice07:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, is all based on bash07:41
javierderbluekuja, ok. i'll send them an email with what we need (orig.tar.gz and diff.gz) and ask them for a better description07:41
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, wait07:42
javierderok07:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) checking other stuff07:42
javierdernp07:42
javierderlet me know07:42
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8679907:43
javierderthose are warnings and erros in the package?07:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, how does gentoo administrate uploads?07:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, yea07:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, the package have to be lintian/linda clean07:44
javierderbluekuja, ok, thanks! how did you get those errors?07:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *to start*07:44
javierderbluekuja, ok.07:44
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, and I'm sure that they didnt follow python policy07:45
javierderbluekuja, ok. i'll talk to them and probably do the package myself :)07:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, look at control file07:45
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) there's no python version07:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nothing07:46
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) bluekuja: well, it's very different from debian/ubuntu, you don't upload anything, only ebuilds07:46
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and to do that, you have to be a developer or some dev have to commit them for you07:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, and who can upload ebuils?07:46
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah something like sponsors07:47
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup07:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, is there a policy to follow?07:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or programs like lintian?07:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) to verify if everything is correct07:47
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g how can i test that my ebuild is ok07:47
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well, you can run repoman, and obviously you have to test the ebuild installing it :)07:48
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) repoman will only catch small things, like bad deps, missing variables, etc etc07:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, to say "it works"07:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it should only install?07:48
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g I do an ebuild, it installs correctly07:49
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) install + test if the app works07:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, cool07:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's seems to be easier than debian/ubuntu07:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) where there are a lot of checks to do07:49
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, how many ebuilds you did to become a developer?07:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, please read policy manual07:50
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, before doing python packages07:50
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 4 or 5, but before you become a dev you need to find a mentor, and take two quizzes07:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) two quizzes?07:51
javierderbluekuja, yes. i didn't do that package. tribler developer sent me that package.07:51
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) two exams, whatever you want to call them :)07:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, exams-question then07:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, like?07:51
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, oki, well remember to provide me07:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) .orig07:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) dsc07:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and diff.gz07:52
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) not the deb itself07:52
javierderok, great.07:52
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sunrise/wiki/SunriseFaq#HowcanIbecomeaGentoodevelopernow07:53
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, cool07:54
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, well If I decide to start with it, should you be able to mentor me?07:55
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) negative, i can't mentor yet07:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, y?07:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) you're a devel07:56
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) why you cannot?07:56
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) because i'm not 6 months old yet07:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) oh :D07:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) how manu months you have?07:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *many07:57
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) 4 iirc07:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) aww07:57
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but i've been doing things like 1 year ago07:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nice07:57
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, I was a fedora maintainer while ago07:58
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) why did you left?07:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) but I've been inactive for 4 month07:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and my account is deleted07:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) -.-07:58
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, I gonna restart, I think07:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) need to review fedora policy07:59
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) slacker *g*07:59
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, slacker?08:00
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yup, why you've been inactive?08:00
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, well, I wasnt really happy08:01
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) no sotisfactions08:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) that's it08:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and I could spend more time there08:02
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *not08:02
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and with ubuntu/debian you got what you want?08:03
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, yeah08:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) it's another world08:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ^^08:04
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) heh, then i don't recommend gentoo :)08:04
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) on net-p2p we don't have too much to do08:04
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, in fact no activities?08:05
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well, we don't have a channel for torrent stuff, for example :)08:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, :D08:06
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) or p2p either08:06
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) all in one channel?08:06
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well, we have some channels, but not for p2p, we don't need one08:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, aww08:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, mailing list yes?08:07
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) for p2p? no08:07
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) as i said, it's not the same :)08:07
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, really different from here08:08
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, how doesn uploads works?08:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g what do you upload?08:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g which authentication do you use08:09
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g where are upload reports?08:10
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) authentication? :)08:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, yes08:10
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) gpg key?08:10
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) upload reports? :)08:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) :D08:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, do you use gpg key?08:11
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) we don't use gpg signed things yet08:11
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so everyone can upload?08:11
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) some ppl does, but its not mandatory08:11
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) err, no, well, to access the tree you need your ssh key allowed08:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ooh08:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) so by ssh08:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) like bzr in fact08:12
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, how long does it take to become a gentoo devel?08:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and developers with less than 6 months of activity cannot upload for a new contributor?08:13
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) e.g you can upload only for yourself08:13
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) well, first you need to do things :)08:14
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, like?08:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) new ebuilds08:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and so on08:15
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ?08:15
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and no, you can upload things for other ppl08:15
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) yeah, or fix bugs, and those things08:15
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(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, nice to sou you can sponsor08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) in fact08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) *so08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) I thought only 6 month older devels can do it08:16
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, where gentoo's irc is hosted?08:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, let me know how things will go08:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, if you want to do it better08:17
javierderbluekuja, ok08:17
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) javierder, as far as I already know you08:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and not the other guy08:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) ;)08:18
javierderbluekuja, yes, probably i'll do it. i told him what needs to be done, and that i can do it.08:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) sounds good08:18
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, what does gentoo's users use to fetch ebuilds?08:19
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) irc is at freenode08:21
(armin76/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) and rsync08:21
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) armin76, rsync for ebuilds'?08:22
(bluekuja/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) nice08:22
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DarkSun88G'night10:35
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bluekujaheya Vorian11:11
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bluekujaasac: heya!!!!!!!11:05
asacbluekuja: ole andrea11:06
bluekuja:)11:06
bluekujahow are you man?11:06
asactanned :)11:07
bluekuja:D11:07
asacthis weekend brought a bit relief to my shoulder pain ... so pretty great11:07
asaclets see how long :)11:07
bluekujaheheeh11:07
bluekujasame11:07
bluekujaI returned yesterday too11:07
bluekujabut I was a little less sleepy11:08
bluekujawent to sleep at 6 o'clock11:08
bluekujasaturday11:08
bluekuja:P11:08
asacoh11:08
asachope you had fun :)11:08
bluekujayeah! of course11:08
bluekujait was a nice party11:09
bluekuja:)11:09
bluekujaasac: I'm leaving for a while, do you have a minute for a fast verlihub build?11:09
bluekujaI've tested it11:09
bluekujaand seems ok11:09
bluekujaneed only your check11:09
bluekuja;)11:09
asacbluekuja: sure11:10
bluekujathanks alex11:10
bluekujabrb11:10
asacbluekuja: ok we don't have manpages for any binary ... if thats intentional, we can live with it for now. But should definitly by fixed asap11:27
bluekujaasac: back11:31
bluekujayes, it's intentional11:31
bluekujafor next release I can add them11:32
asack11:35
asacbluekuja: is verlihub NEW in debian?11:36
bluekujaasac: yeah11:36
asack11:36
bluekujaasac: NEW queue seems to be huge now11:37
bluekujadamn11:37
bluekuja^^11:37
asaci don't think so ... :)11:37
asacbluekuja: which packages did we upload to debian that are already in debian/ubuntu ?11:38
asaci just would like to ensure that these things are landing in ubuntu as well :)11:38
bluekujafische not11:38
bluekuja2 weeks11:38
bluekujaand it's not in ubuntu11:38
bluekujayet11:38
bluekujactorrent and bitstorm yes11:39
bluekujathey are ok11:39
bluekujabut fische seems to be not synced11:39
bluekuja(is NEW so it has to be synced automatically)11:39
bluekujaI think that verlihub wont be synced too11:40
bluekuja20 of june is coming11:40
bluekujaand I dont think that queue will be done for that date11:40
bluekujaasac: why fische is not in ubuntu too?11:42
asacnew processing is currently slow11:49
bluekujayeah11:50
bluekujadiff-ext is still there11:50
bluekujaone week11:50
bluekujaasac: can you see why fische is not in ubuntu?11:50
asacits probably stuck in the NEW queue11:53
asacas lots of other things11:53
bluekujaubuntu NEW?11:53
bluekujalet me see11:53
bluekujaasac: nope11:54
bluekujanot in queue11:54
asacyou have link for queue?11:55
bluekujayup11:55
bluekujahttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue11:55
bluekujaasac: when verlihub is in NEW queue11:57
bluekujaI can package verlihub-stats11:58
bluekuja?11:58
bluekujae.g pushing it to new queue too11:58
bluekujaor we have to wait that verlihub is i11:58
bluekuja*in11:58
asacno11:58
asacyou can push right away11:58
bluekujacool11:58
asacbluekuja: verlihub is currently streaming up11:59
bluekujaasac: what you mean with "streaming up"?12:00
asacguess :)12:01
bluekujamm12:01
bluekujaasac: you mean something like pushing?12:02
bluekujafor building you say spinning12:02
bluekujalol12:02
bluekujaso that's not12:02
asacyeah12:03
asacpush12:03
asacactually its up now .)12:03
bluekujagreat!! :)12:03
bluekujashould receive mail soon12:03
bluekujaasac: I start doing verlihub-stats12:04
bluekujaand when done I push everything on bzr12:04
bluekujaas alwais12:04
bluekuja:)12:04
bluekujait's a small package, hope there wont be problems12:04
asacsure12:05
bluekuja;)12:05
asaclets see how much you have learned :)12:05
asacat least you are not a novice packager anymore imo :)12:05
bluekujayup! :)12:06
bluekujaI try to do a perfect package now12:06
bluekujaasac: please Bug#428376 on debian12:24
bluekuja#42837612:24
bluekujadebian #42837612:24
asacdebian bug 42837612:25
asachmm ubotu wake up!12:25
bluekuja:D12:25
bluekujaseverity: serious12:25
bluekujaaww12:25
bluekujaasac: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%2342837612:26
bluekujaasac: what can be?12:33
bluekujaworks for me12:33
asachttp://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=fische12:34
asacit doesn't build on most archs12:34
asacdoes blur.c contain assembler code?12:35
bluekujalet me see12:35
bluekujaasac: yes12:36
bluekujaasac: should we restrict the arch for now?12:40
bluekujae.g waiting upstream12:40
asaci think so12:41
bluekujait's the only think we can do12:41
bluekujafor now12:41
bluekuja*thing12:41
bluekujaasac: only i386?12:42
asacamd64 appears to work, right?12:42
bluekujaah yup12:42
bluekujaso i386,amd6412:43
asacbluekuja: i should test it for amd64 first12:44
asacwill do so after lunch12:44
bluekujaasac: ok, I start branching out12:44
bluekujafische12:44
bluekujaagain12:44
bluekujaso It's ready after the fix12:45
bluekujaand your test12:45
bluekujaasac: let me know when the test is done12:46
bluekujaso I can push to bzr12:46
bluekujalunch01:02
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bluekujaheya DktrKranz01:15
DktrKranzheya01:15
DktrKranzdid you prepare that debdiff?01:15
bluekujayeaaaaaaaa01:16
bluekujaalready uploaded01:16
bluekujato lp01:16
DktrKranznice :)01:16
bluekujaI've added another patch01:16
DktrKranzwhat about debian?01:16
bluekujaand pushed there01:16
bluekujalets ask asac about it01:16
bluekujaasac: we have a patch to apply in a debian package01:17
bluekujacan we do a non-maintainer upload?01:17
bluekujaasac: or only official maintainer can?01:19
asacbluekuja: NMU is discouraged ... send patch to bts and see if he responses01:27
bluekujaasac: yeah, already done01:27
bluekujafreeflying_: you there?02:07
freeflying_bluekuja: hey02:07
bluekuja:)02:08
bluekujado you have a min for:02:08
bluekujahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmail-notify/+bug/11975202:08
(ubotu/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Launchpad bug 119752 in gmail-notify "Merge gmail-notify 1.6.1-3 from debian unstable" [Medium,Confirmed] 02:08
bluekujaI've added two patches02:08
bluekujato fix two bugs02:08
bluekujain lp02:08
bluekujayou should check if everything is ok02:09
bluekuja:)02:09
bluekujagrab the sources from lp02:09
bluekujanot from dad or mom02:09
bluekujaas far as it's not an official merge02:09
bluekujafreeflying_, of course use diff202:11
bluekujalast post in the report02:11
bluekujafreeflying_, is it ok?02:17
freeflying_bluekuja: check it02:18
bluekujaok :)02:18
freeflying_bluekuja: uploading02:20
bluekujafreeflying_, great! :)02:20
bluekujaremember to add a comment to the bug, so I remember to mark it as fix released02:21
bluekujawhen hits the archive02:21
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DarkSun88Hi all02:39
bluekujaheya DarkSun8802:58
bluekujaasac: tested on amd64?02:58
DarkSun88Hello bluekuja02:58
DarkSun88Hi asac02:58
bluekujaasac: tell me when you're back03:02
asacbluekuja: i don't know how to test actually03:36
bluekujaasac: I think it's necessary to build it only03:37
asacbluekuja: ?03:41
asacso how can i test it?03:41
bluekujaasac: I think only building03:41
bluekujathe package03:41
bluekujaon amd6403:41
bluekujait fails on building03:42
bluekujawith other archs03:42
asacamd64 fails?03:43
asacno03:43
asacit built :)03:43
bluekujaasac: no03:43
bluekujayup03:43
bluekuja:)03:43
asacanyway ... HOW to test this piece of software03:43
bluekujait builds great on i386/amd6403:43
asacif it doesn nothing, then why have we packaged it :)03:43
asacactually, now that i see that there is assembler code going on, i really want to see it work on amd6403:44
bluekujaasac: oh how to test the progra,03:44
asacyes03:44
bluekujarun fische03:44
bluekujaand follow03:44
bluekujathe istructions03:44
bluekujafor your sound device03:44
bluekujaasac: works here03:45
bluekujaasac: anyway it fails on *building*03:46
bluekujaso we just have to restrict the arch03:47
bluekujato i386/amd6403:47
asacbluekuja: it works ... but somehow it looks like ... aehm crap :)03:50
asacanyway03:50
bluekujalol03:51
bluekujaasac: it's an alpha for now03:51
bluekujait will progress03:51
bluekujawith next releases03:51
bluekujaasac: I'm sure03:52
asacyeah03:52
bluekujawe will work closely with idefixs03:52
bluekujaso we will have good results03:52
asacanyway, would be nice if upstream could try to do something more portable as fallback03:52
asacno asm :)03:52
bluekujayeah03:52
bluekujagonna comunicate it03:52
bluekujato idefixs03:52
bluekujaasac: I'm leaving for an hour03:53
bluekujawhen I'm back03:53
bluekujaI push those changes03:53
bluekuja(arch: i386, amd64)03:53
bluekujato bzr03:53
bluekujaso we can close that odd bug03:53
bluekujabbl03:54
bluekujaasac: back04:58
bluekujaasac: I modify arch and I push to bzr04:58
bluekujafor you04:58
bluekujaasac: done05:15
bluekujaasac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/fische/debian05:15
bluekujahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/fische/main.autotools05:15
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bluekujaasac: is possible to push verlihub and fische in ubuntu?05:20
bluekujae.g manually05:20
asacwe could do that ... though I am unsure if that will speed things up05:21
asaci will think about it05:21
asacmaybe i wil push them tomorrow05:21
bluekujaasac: on 20 june, ubuntu will close the syncs05:21
bluekujaand I dont think they will be in05:21
bluekujafor that date05:21
bluekujanew queue is huge now05:21
bluekujaasac: can you please check last commit on bzr for fische?05:22
bluekujaso we can close that bug05:22
asacwill do after core hours05:22
asac3h i guess05:22
bluekujasounds great05:22
bluekujaasac: later I gonna fix another bug for ctorrent05:23
bluekujanothing bad05:23
bluekujabut a bad package desc05:23
bluekujahas been reported05:23
bluekujaso I gonna implement it and add changes to bzr05:23
bluekujaso we can fix it too05:23
asacbluekuja: i guess that unstable packages don't get synched for a few days and only if they don't contain RC bugs05:24
asachow old is ctorrent=?05:24
bluekujaasac: ctorrent is in ubuntu correctly05:24
bluekujaasac: fische 2 weeks in unstable05:24
asacbluekuja: yes ... but has rc bugs05:25
asacwas ctorrent an initial sync or an update?05:25
bluekujainitial05:25
bluekujaasac: anyway after new fische update will be pushed it will be ok05:25
bluekujaas far as we have only working archs05:26
bluekujabrb05:30
asacbluekuja: yes05:32
asachope so too :)05:32
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bluekujaback05:44
bluekujaasac: I start fixing ctorrent desc05:47
bluekujaso it's all ready for you later05:47
bluekuja;)05:47
bluekujajavamaniac, heya05:47
bluekujajavierder, heya too!05:47
bluekujajavierder, any news for that package?05:47
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bluekujaasac: ok done, both packages are ok06:41
bluekujagonna ping you this evening06:42
bluekuja;)06:42
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bluekujaasac: do you have a minute for those packages now?09:01
asacyeah ... wait09:16
bluekujaasac: if you need urls09:17
bluekujajust tell me09:17
asaci have it all branched here already09:17
bluekujagreat09:18
bluekuja:)09:18
asacactually you should try to keep lines small in changelog (e.g. 70 columns)09:18
asacbut not a problem now09:18
bluekujaok09:18
asachmm09:21
asacdpkg-source: error: `i386,' is not a legal architecture stringhttps://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?2014809:21
asacups09:22
asacdpkg-source: error: `i386,' is not a legal architecture string09:22
asachave you tried to build?09:22
asacbluekuja: ^^^09:23
asacfix it :)09:23
bluekujaasac: oh :D09:23
bluekujalet me fix09:23
asacplease test before pushing09:25
bluekujayeah, sorry09:25
bluekujawas sure of it09:25
asack09:28
bluekujaasac: why is it bad?09:28
bluekujaasac: dpkg-architecture -L09:28
bluekujai38609:28
bluekujaia6409:28
bluekujaalpha09:28
bluekujaamd6409:28
bluekujaasac: need to delete ,09:30
asacsyntax09:30
bluekuja","09:30
bluekujayeah09:30
bluekuja^^09:30
bluekujait should be i386 amd6409:31
bluekujafixing09:31
bluekujaasac: done09:34
bluekujais ok now09:34
bluekujabrb09:36
bluekujaback09:44
bluekujaasac: is it ok?09:44
asacyes ... can you give me link to orig.tar.gz please?09:47
asacor at best the md5sum of current orig.tar.gz09:47
bluekujaasac: yea09:48
asac?09:48
asaci need the md5sum now :)09:49
bluekujaasac: e992595ca79d12fbcd77778203d4581709:49
asacthats the md5sum of whats on ftp?09:49
bluekujayeah09:49
bluekujaasac: debian ftp09:49
asaccan you build with bzr bd in sid?09:52
bluekujaasac: doesnt have sid installed right now09:53
bluekujaI can try on pbuilder09:53
bluekujaif its the same09:53
bluekujafor you09:53
bluekujawith bzr branch09:53
asacexceptions.ValueError: invalid Debian version string09:55
asaci get that in sid09:55
asacwhich is completely insane09:55
bluekujainvalid debian version string?!09:55
bluekujamm09:55
asacbzr bd really sucks09:56
bluekujalol09:56
bluekujain this case you should try manually09:56
asacuploading09:57
bluekujagreat09:57
asacyeah ... anyway it sucks09:57
bluekuja;)09:57
asachard09:57
bluekuja:D09:57
bluekujaI usually dont use bzr bd09:58
bluekujaonly manual09:58
bluekuja:)09:58
asacprobably its because of python2.409:58
asaclets see09:58
asacbluekuja: how do you do it manually?09:58
bluekujaasac: the build you mean?09:59
bluekujaof the branch?09:59
asacyes10:00
bluekujajust branching out10:00
bluekujadeleting bzr dir10:00
bluekujaand building10:01
asacyeah10:01
asacbut thats bad10:01
asaci mean you cannot easily push changes to bzr10:01
bluekujawell, yeah10:01
bluekujabut I work in two dirs with same data10:01
bluekujaso I can easily move changes10:01
asacbluekuja: you don't need to remove bzr dir10:01
asacyou can just use -i.bzr10:01
bluekujathanks for the hint10:01
asacto ignore it and not include in in diff.gz10:01
asacanyway ... its bad to branch debian dir inside extracted orig10:02
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asacbut maybe one should really stick to the "fully-blown" layout until bzr bd is decent10:02
bluekujayeah10:02
bluekujabut I workaround it using two dirs10:03
bluekujaof course10:03
bluekujaI dont have bzr log10:03
bluekujaor status10:03
bluekujaat the end10:03
bluekujabut thanks for that hint10:03
bluekujaasac: can you check ctorrent-enhanced too?10:03
bluekujaa guy reported a bug regarding desc10:04
bluekujaso I fixed it10:04
bluekujait's everything on bzr10:04
bluekujahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/ctorrent-enhanced/debian.source10:04
bluekujahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/ctorrent-enhanced/upstream.source10:04
asacbluekuja: yeah ... thats low prio. We shouldn't upload for any minor bug reported. Lets wait at least some time to other bugs sum up10:08
bluekujaasac: oh ok10:08
bluekuja:)10:08
asacits good to fix in bzr10:08
bluekujaasac: let me know if you decide to push verlihub/fische into ubuntu10:08
asacyou can tag the bug "pending"10:08
bluekujaok10:09
asacwhats with verlihub?10:09
asachow old in debian? build everywhere? and RC bugs?10:09
asacverlihub is still in NEW?10:09
bluekujayup10:09
bluekujabut it wont be in10:09
bluekujafor 20 of june10:09
asacon top or on bottom of NEW?10:09
bluekujabottom10:10
bluekujalast one10:10
bluekuja:P10:10
asac9 hours10:10
bluekujayup10:10
bluekujalook at the list10:10
bluekujais HUGE10:10
bluekuja1 week first one10:11
asaclook how bad my memory is ... i don't remember uploading it even :)10:11
bluekujalol10:11
bluekujaasac: so in my opinion you can upload to ubuntu too10:15
bluekujaso we can have it in gutsy10:15
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asacok ... i think i will upload both ... if fische now builds properly10:28
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bluekujaasac: ok great :)10:29
bluekujaasac: can you please check if its a bug?10:33
bluekujahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ssmtp/+bug/8642510:33
(ubotu/#ubuntu-motu-torrent) Launchpad bug 86425 in ssmtp "smtp authentication fail if the password contains a ":"" [Low,Confirmed] 10:33
bluekujaasac: just need to know if we can call it a bug10:33
asacthe title sounds like a bug10:33
bluekujayup10:33
bluekujaI just need to know if is a bug10:34
bluekujaif yes, the patch is ok10:34
asacwhy wouldn't it be a bug?10:36
bluekujabecause a guy is saying it's not10:36
bluekujapersia tagged it as a patch10:36
bluekujaso I dont see why it should be a bug10:37
bluekuja*should not10:37
asaci don't see that anybody claims that its not a bug10:37
bluekujaon irc10:37
bluekujavia pm10:37
asacwho?10:38
bluekujaasac:10:38
bluekuja<vil> the patch is fine10:38
bluekuja<vil> but I don't believe it is a bug10:38
asache should post his concerns to the bug10:39
asacif he didn't give any reasons then it can safely be ignored10:39
bluekujahe's not sure10:39
bluekujaof it10:39
bluekujaso I asked you about it10:39
asache?10:39
bluekuja<vil> pls, ask someone else if he can confirm that it's a bug10:40
asaci mean ... if he is not sure he can almost certainly be ignored10:40
bluekujayeah10:40
bluekujaasac: I need to someone to push it ^^10:40
asacwho is vil?10:40
bluekujaa MOTU10:40
asacplease subscribe universe sponsors as suggested10:41
bluekujaalready done10:41
bluekuja:)10:41
asacyeah10:41
asacthen lets wait a bit10:41
bluekujaok10:41
asacactually i am in universe and main sponsors group  :)10:44
bluekujayeah!10:44
asacmaybe i should see if there is anything i can do in a free minute :)10:44
bluekuja:D10:44
asacbut as said, i thiunk its beneficial if your patches are pushed by someone else10:44
asacso you get more backup on MOTU application10:44
bluekujayup10:44
bluekujaI'm working with a lot of sponsors atm10:44
asacnice10:45
asacwhoelse?10:45
bluekujabut of course you and freeflying and persia are the ones who are helping me the most10:45
asacoh talking about freeflying ... he asked me to sponsor for debian at some point iirc10:45
asacmaybe should look into my mailbox10:45
asacwhats his email?10:46
bluekujait seems that he lost his sponsor10:46
bluekujazhengphenghou@ubuntu.com10:46
bluekujaI think10:46
bluekujaasac: he started the NM process10:46
bluekujaand had to leave it10:46
bluekujain the middle10:47
bluekujaasac: fische built10:51
bluekujaon i38610:51
bluekujaamd64 is installed10:51
bluekujaI dont know why if he's trying to build on mips10:51
bluekuja*its10:51
bluekujaah ok, it skipped10:52
bluekujathose archs10:52
bluekujain the right way10:53
asaci will review buildd logs tomorrow11:13
bluekujaasac: sounds great11:14
bluekuja:)11:14
bluekujaasac: going to sleep?11:14
asacno ... but i go to minor mode :)11:15
bluekujalol11:15
bluekujaasac: maybe I will come to berlin this summer11:15
bluekujawhere do you live exactly?11:15
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asaci live in hamburg11:29
asacberlin is 1:40h by high-speed train :)11:29
bluekujaasac: ooh cool11:29
bluekujamaybe I can come there too11:30
bluekuja^^11:30
bluekujaasac: vil uploaded my packages and now they are on his packages list...11:56
bluekujahttps://launchpad.net/~vil/+packages11:56
bluekujaasac: that's not possible.....................11:57
bluekujaasac: what can I do now?11:58
asacbluekuja: which package do you mean?12:03
bluekujajigdo12:03
bluekujaand ssmtp12:03
bluekujaI worked on them adding three patches12:03
bluekujaand now they are there12:03
bluekuja-.-12:03
bluekujaasac: he doesnt know how to upload an update12:04
asacwhats his lp id?12:05
bluekujahttps://launchpad.net/~vil12:05
bluekujaasac: I really dont know how I managed to assign those packages to him12:07
bluekuja*he12:07
asache just uploaded deliberately ... which is ok ... however, he should have given credit12:08
bluekujavil> so how do I sign it, when chanlog entry is yours?12:08
asaci will talk to dholbach12:08
bluekujaok12:08
asaci don't think he wanted to do any harm12:08
asacbut its definitly not nice not to give credit12:09
bluekujaasac: in fact my work vanished12:09
bluekujaand that's not nice12:09
asache neither gave credit to the initial patch developer nor to you12:09
bluekujaexactly12:09
bluekujaasac: those package will never be assigned to me?12:10
asactechnically not until a new revision with you in changelog gets uploaded12:11
bluekujadamn -.-12:12
bluekujaasac: in fact my changelog entry has been deleted12:12
asaci know that its not good ... but hey, its not the most important thing in the world. Just remember the bug number so you can prove your contribution12:12
bluekujayeah12:13
bluekujait has been closed12:13
bluekujaby that upload12:13
asacmost likely i will tell him that he shouldn't sponsor in future12:13
asacif he doesn't konw how to sponsor12:13
asacbut i will talk to dholbach first12:13
asacmaybe he will educate him about that he did wrong12:13
bluekujaok12:13
asacbluekuja: actually in ubuntu motu, a package does not belong to someone in a hard fashion12:14
bluekujayeah12:14
asacso the "maintained" package list is not what one has to count on12:14
asacits not worth that much ... and is not directly related to the level of your contributions12:15
asackeeping the bug numbers is good for you MOTU applications though12:15
asac... and should be more than enough12:15
bluekujaasac: yeah, you're absolutely right12:15
bluekujaanyway I hope someone will do something12:15
bluekujaso it wont happen again12:16
asacyeah ... i don't think he will do it wrong again12:16
asacactually he asked you before ... so he tried12:16
asache should have asked on -motu though12:16
asacits hard to prevent it in general ... but yes, its not nice :)12:16
bluekujaasac: I think he used12:16
bluekuja<vil> most of the time, I say debuild -S and it does all that I need :12:16
bluekujadebuild -S12:17
bluekuja^^12:17
bluekujaasac: bugs has been closed right now12:17
asacbluekuja: yes ... so the result is still ok :) ... the bugs are fixed12:18
bluekujayup12:18
bluekujaI'm just sad^^12:18
asacdon't be sad ... glitches happen12:18
bluekujayeah, but usually I except to work with someone that knows what he's doing12:18
bluekujaI think that you never did errors like that12:19
asacexpect you mean :)12:19
asachopefully not :)12:19
bluekujayeah expect12:19
bluekuja^^12:19
asaclets get over it ... tomorrow is a new great day ... and vid will definitly get his share of education :)12:22
bluekujaI hope so12:22
bluekujaand please talk to daniel12:23
asaci definitly will12:23
bluekujathanks12:23
asacno problem12:24
asacdo you want to help on packaging a great package?12:24
bluekujalol12:25
bluekujawhat is it?12:25
asachttp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/granparadiso/alpha5/source/12:25
bluekuja33 MB??12:25
bluekuja0_012:25
asacits firefox 312:25
bluekujacooool12:25
asacactually we maintain a firefox-trunk (cvs snapshot) in bzr ... we try to work closely together with mozilla project to get alpha/beta releases out to the masses12:26
asacso we agreed to package a firefox-preview package12:26
asacwhich we will update on every milestone release12:26
bluekujathat's a nice idea!12:27
bluekujato push in debian or ubuntu?12:27
asacubuntu only12:27
bluekujaok12:27
asacdebian is not allowed to ship firefox brand :)12:27
bluekujaoh why?12:28
bluekujalicense?12:28
asacyeah ... for the same reason that they ship iceweasel12:28
asacthey don't bother to get mozilla approval of patches12:29
asacwhich we do12:29
bluekujaah :) someone started packaging it already?12:29
asacbluekuja: https://code.launchpad.net/~asac12:31
asacthere is a trunk bzr archive12:31
asaca firefox-trunk package is in the mozillateam preview archive12:31
asacwhat now needs to be done is to branch from the trunk bzr ... and create a "preview" or granparadiso branch12:31
asacwith renamed packages et al.12:32
bluekujammm12:32
bluekujaseems easy to do12:32
bluekujabut it will be hard12:32
bluekuja^^12:32
asac:)12:41
asachehe12:41
bluekujaasac: going to bed12:41
asacbluekuja: night ... will do the same12:41
bluekujaasac: tomorrow we will finish with verli and fische12:41
bluekujain ubuntu12:41
asacyes12:42
bluekujaasac: I wish you a good night12:42
bluekujaI wont sleep for hours thinking of lost packages12:42
bluekujahahahaha12:42
bluekuja:)12:42
bluekujaI'm jk12:42
asacbluekuja: yeah ... i guess thats the right attitude :)12:43
asacbluekuja: at least you are not a maintainer that doesn't care ;)12:44
bluekujayeah :)12:44
asacanyway ... nothing to loose sleep over12:44
bluekujaasac: I've decided to apply for MOTU after 20 uploads from now on12:44
bluekuja1 year experience12:45
bluekujaand I feel myself ready inside12:45
asacbluekuja: that looks decent12:45
bluekujaasac: I hope that you will help me with it12:46
bluekujaas other sponsors will do12:46
asacactually i don't think you don't need that many ... but lets see how quick your error-rate drops12:46