[01:15] libpipnss.a is bundled into libxul.so [01:17] k [01:17] like everything most likely ;) [01:17] did you rebuild xul? or ffox? [01:17] or both? [01:17] for what ? [01:18] for new nss ;) [01:18] i'm all head her [01:18] e [01:18] :) [01:18] but that cert error is not new [01:18] moving three components forward doesn't really help to track the issue down [01:18] ok [01:18] didn't know its an issue [01:18] is there a bug? [01:19] I can't find one [01:19] but that doesn't mean anything [01:20] firefox-3.0 in gutsy works fine [01:20] with and without added root cert [01:20] i get a cert warning and can accept it temporarily et al [01:20] so it must be a recent regression [01:22] now it crashed \O/ [01:22] openend a long rss feed bookmark [01:22] bang [01:22] mozilla bug 399905 [01:22] Mozilla bug 399905 in English US "Bad cert domain error when clicking a link on fedex.com" [Normal,Reopened] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399905 [01:23] nope [01:23] you started this discussion with stgraber site ... that one works here [01:24] it's bad cert domain, i get certificate is not trusted or its issuer certificate is invalid. [01:24] (sec_error_unknown_issuer) [01:24] which url? [01:24] stgraber [01:24] that bug is from yesterday [01:25] it's for a cert domain, not me [01:25] ok [01:27] mozilla bug 398406 [01:28] Mozilla bug 398406 in General "Cleanup remaining uses of nsIBadCertListener in Minimo" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398406 [01:28] "Bad cert's are now full stop error, there is no longer an interface to "proceed [01:28] anyway". A workaround requiring the manual use of certificate manager was made [01:28] available in bug 387480. [01:28] " [01:28] mozilla bug 387480 [01:28] Mozilla bug 387480 in Security: UI "Support network-fetched cert import in Servers tab of Cert Mgr ("Add Exception" dialog)" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387480 [01:34] ok, it works if I add an exception for that site using the cert manager [01:35] so it could be an a9 thing [01:35] 387480 seems to be it [01:39] mozilla bug 387480 [01:39] Mozilla bug 387480 in Security: UI "Support network-fetched cert import in Servers tab of Cert Mgr ("Add Exception" dialog)" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387480 [01:41] there's a new UI but it does not popup when needed === mertiki [n=zxz@modemcable023.30-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === IdleOne [n=idleone@unaffiliated/idleone] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:58] hi === ..[topic/#ubuntu-mozillateam:asac] : Home of Ubuntu Mozilla Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Bug Triagers please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/ + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures | Firefox trunk package source : https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.dev | Mailing List: ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com | Mozilla QA tracker https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/ has beta packages to test - please blog about it and he === ..[topic/#ubuntu-mozillateam:asac] : Home of Ubuntu Mozilla Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Bug Triagers please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/ + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures | Firefox trunk package source : https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.dev | Mailing List: ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com | Mozilla QA tracker https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/ has beta packages to test - please blog and help testin === ..[topic/#ubuntu-mozillateam:asac] : Home of Ubuntu Mozilla Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Bug Triagers please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/ + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures | Firefox trunk package source : https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.dev | Mailing List: ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com | Mozilla QA tracker https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/ has beta packages to test; please blog and test [11:20] Ubulette: i assigned a xulrunner-1.9 bug to you ... about xpcshell. did we forget to include that or isn't it build at all? [11:20] i guess this should go to the -dev package ... but not sure === rexbron [n=rexbron@62.6.158.161] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:11] ok got kiko looking at changing the owner so i can add admins [02:14] gnomefreak: i confirmed that you are ok to be owner [02:16] ty [02:17] who else was gonna be admin? [02:19] asac: your now admin, there was someone else but cant think of who [02:21] ok [02:21] i think its enough to have two admins for now [02:22] k [02:22] hmmmmm [02:22] !info sunbird [02:22] Package sunbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [02:22] info sunbird gutsy [02:23] !info sunbird gutsy [02:23] sunbird: Sunbird stand-alone Calendar. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 7506 kB, installed size 22304 kB [02:23] wtf [02:25] there added sunbird to page [02:25] should we add nss and nspr as supported packages by mozillateam? [02:32] yes [02:32] xulrunner-1.9 + firefox-3.0 as well [02:32] gnomefreak: ^^ [02:33] leave granparadiso there? [02:33] no ... remove [02:34] its superseeded ;) [02:34] ok [02:34] remove xulrunner 1.8 as well [02:35] yes, i think thats sane [02:35] though its still in use [02:35] ok [02:35] so maybe keep it until after gutsy [02:35] ok ill just add 1.9 [02:37] thanks [02:37] no [02:37] np [02:40] ill be back i need to do some work on windows [02:41] oh crap ill add nss and nspr later. [02:46] heya all [02:46] mr. gnomefreak, mr. asac [02:48] everything fine there? === ThunderStruck [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:52] ThunderStruck: heya mr. gnomefreak [02:52] hey ;) [02:52] everything fine? [02:52] windows pc nick [02:52] oh :D [02:52] bluekuja, everything good for now [02:52] great to hear [02:53] :) [02:53] ThunderStruck: any news? [02:53] bluekuja, you here most of the day? [02:53] yeah, I guess so [02:54] bluekuja, yes its all set i will set it up when i get back downstairs, windows == work and coffee [02:54] oh :) [02:54] ThunderStruck: need me to do something later? [02:54] bluekuja, i dont think so, i have a bunch to do i think [02:55] oki [02:55] why you asked if I'll be here most of the day? [02:55] thought you needed some help [02:55] for something [02:55] :) [02:57] just in case. im gonna get to ML later if i get that far i might need input [02:58] yeah, I'm here then [02:58] just ask if you need any information [03:00] I'm searching a new router to buy, wireless and cable [03:01] browsing some pages to find out what is out atm [03:04] ive had bad times with d-link wireless routers. i love my motorola wifi router :) [03:08] ThunderStruck: dlink is bad? [03:09] bluekuja, i havent had a good experince with it. my aunt got one and i had to reset ip range every day [03:09] thats why when i was in PA i would get disconnected so often [03:09] oh damn [03:09] but it might just be me [03:10] windows it works great [03:10] I guess I'll buy NETGEAR DG834G [03:10] check google for it [03:10] netgear is nice. just when using it with irc use port 8001 [03:11] why? [03:11] netgear and dlink iirc both have the exploit issue in IRC [03:11] bluekuja, the dcc send <16 chars> [03:11] !dcc [03:11] There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit [03:12] oh :/ [03:12] that should give you what routers and firmware are effecfted [03:12] thanks for pointing me to that [03:13] I just want a router that gets online [03:13] and I can connect [03:13] cable/wireless at the same time [03:13] without disconnecting [03:13] one pc and connecting another [03:13] brb have to restart xchat to install python [03:13] in fact I cant have more than one active connection at home [03:13] k [03:17] hello [03:18] heya asac [03:18] asac: went to bed yesterday at the end? :) [03:18] more or less :) ... returned at 2am for a few minutes [03:18] oh :D [03:19] I was sleeping then^^ [03:19] asac: still busy like yesterday? [03:20] more or less ... but things look better ... i hope i can do my AM job tonight ... depending on whether i drink a beer after sport [03:20] hehee [03:20] otherwise tomorrow - unless some serious issues pop up [03:20] asac: which sport? [03:21] more important than your advocacy is to send in my AM report for my NM student ... he waits for 2 month now i guess [03:21] oh 2 months, that's a lot [03:21] which i feel _really_ ashamed about [03:22] well ... he had multiple month latency in the mids of his application ... so i don't feel that guilty [03:22] asac: that's ok then [03:22] asac: my advocacy will be done after that then? [03:23] so I can move waiting to have an AM assigned [03:25] asac: I've seen some delays on AM reports in some other apps inside the list [03:26] asac: some students of anibal [03:26] I guess [03:27] bluekuja: there is no need to feel blocked because of this ... you can also start to help the debian qa team ... which is a good addition to your NM profile [03:28] anyway ... I will advocate in the next moment i feel good about it [03:28] asac: yeah, I'm trying to setup a good collaboration between Ubuntu and Debian QA [03:28] thats a good start ... mapping ubuntu bugs to existing debian bugs for instance [03:28] received a mail from luk === ThunderStruck [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [03:29] asac: yeah, oki. Take your time :) === asac back to finish my cd testing for today [03:30] :) [03:30] asac, testing final ISO's already? [03:31] going to study something [03:31] ThunderStruck: i think so ... yes [03:31] todays isos [03:31] ok cool maybe thursday is possivle [03:32] ThunderStruck: going to study now, be back later [03:32] bluekuja, k [03:32] ;) === ThunderStruck [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [03:47] hmmm [03:53] anybody volunteers to install dapper for testing and then doing the mozilla.qa.stgraber.org tests? [03:53] ThunderStruck: can you please blog about that? [03:53] damn :) === ThunderStruck [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [03:54] anserv.py [03:54] fucj xchat [03:58] ThunderStruck: read topic [03:59] can you blog about the mozilla qa site ? [03:59] when im back on ubuntu i will [03:59] are you on windows? [03:59] shame [03:59] im waiting on a phone call for windows help from a freind [03:59] yep [04:00] shame + pain :) [04:00] yep but shouldnt be long [04:00] atleast it better not be [04:00] brb reinstalling xchat to see if it will load python === ThunderStruck [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:06] i think it was built without python support [04:06] that sucks === ThunderStruck [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === mode/#ubuntu-mozillateam [+o ThunderStruck] by ChanServ [04:12] hot damn it worked === mode/#ubuntu-mozillateam [-o ThunderStruck] by ChanServ [04:13] :) [04:22] hehe [04:23] lomaf @ blinking nm-applet [04:25] lmao even [04:37] blinking? [04:37] i hate my bugmail backlog ... 1300 for firefox [04:48] asac, yes someone said thiers was [04:49] what? [04:52] someone in #ubuntu+1 said thier nm-applet was blinking === mertiki [n=zxz@modemcable023.30-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:57] doesn't sound too scary ;) [04:58] not really but i found it funny blinking (maybe connection is unstable? [05:06] back [05:25] gnomefreak: we need to add ubufox to the mozilla-bugs mailing list as well i guess [05:33] ok ill check on it [05:34] asac: already was [05:35] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubufox/+subscribe [05:37] added nss and nspr to homepage [05:37] 3.11 and 4.6 [05:38] added nss nspr to bugmail for mozilla-bugs as well [05:39] reset ubufox to make sure [06:01] gnomefreak: talked with steve? [06:02] did he said it's possible to have it fixed? [06:02] *say [06:02] bluekuja: i got the teams stright for most part for time being i will add you sometime today [06:02] the ML i have to figure out [06:03] need to send a mail to rc? [06:03] or already done? [06:06] i might be ok for ml i have to play with it [06:06] right now im waiting for a boarder line legal topic turn to illegal topic [06:07] gnomefreak: ah, so you get assigned to owner on ML [06:07] should be ok then [06:21] bluekuja: may not have to but will find out [06:21] oki, let me know [06:21] ;) === cwong1 [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-fc8deee1ac025984] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [06:23] will do [06:24] bluekuja: wanna blog about the mozilla.qa.straber QA site that now needs testers for dapper edgy feisty and gutsy ;) ? [06:24] read topic [06:25] asac: what do you mean with "blog"? [06:26] asac: want me to add an article for the fridge? [06:26] asac: are these firefox versions? [06:27] bluekuja: no ... call for help in testing these beta packages [06:27] asac: it would help if the builds were there [06:27] bluekuja: you can use the site in the same was as the iso testing site [06:28] We are sorry but the build you requested isn't available for download (or the website don't know how to get it). [06:28] In most case that means that the download link has been put as notice on the main page. [06:28] you just click on the produce you want to test and confirm that it works [06:28] asac: writing an article is a way to call for users [06:28] bluekuja: whatever is suitable to get the masses test that dapper package :) [06:28] problem is they are not ther eto test [06:28] bluekuja: please take a look and see if all is clear [06:29] bluekuja: e.g. how to use that tracker et al [06:29] asac: ok. First an user have to register [06:29] bluekuja: if there is more info needed i can add that to the notice area [06:29] then test and approve if ok? [06:29] the tracker works the packages just are not there [06:29] bluekuja: yes ... unless you have an account for iso testing already [06:29] asac: I guess adding a small howto for it would be nice [06:29] bluekuja: yes if you click on the build you will see the testcases you can work on and verify [06:29] users are not very familiar with it [06:30] if its fine you say so ... and we will see that someone ackknowledges that it works for it [06:30] https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/info/1042 [06:30] bluekuja: i asked stgraber about if there is a short howto for the tracker [06:31] asac: perfect, every istruction is appreciated so I can write a full article [06:31] everything should be clear [06:31] bluekuja: sure ... we need to get these packages tested till thu ;) [06:31] asac: so two days? [06:31] mmm... [06:31] bluekuja: well they are out there for a day already ... its important to get more testers on every release [06:32] if we get a few this time it would be all fine [06:32] yeah [06:32] this update is not a high-risk one imo ... but next one probably will [06:32] hmmm has to be done through repo i guess [06:32] especially dapper users are NEEDED [06:32] asac: that's harder [06:32] gnomefreak: thats a left over from iso testing [06:32] dapper chroot ok? [06:32] ah ok [06:32] gnomefreak: yes ... thats ok as well [06:32] k [06:32] at best if you are a regular user [06:32] but chroot or virtual box install is fine [06:33] asac: I finish writing something and then I try to catch up on it [06:33] let me know about istructions et all [06:33] bluekuja: a call to setup a dapper chroot might be worth itt [06:33] bluekuja: yes [06:33] thanks ... waiting for reply by the author [06:33] asac: then I move to write the article [06:34] ok testing gutsy atm [06:34] bluekuja: thanks ... it doesn't need to be poetry ... just get the news out to as many people as possible [06:34] hmmmmmm repo isnt working? [06:34] lots of people usually don't know how to contribute ... this is their chance ;) ... its just a few minutes and helps a lot to raise the quality of stable ubuntu releases [06:34] gnomefreak: which one? [06:34] gutys [06:34] asac: true :) [06:34] gutsy [06:35] gnomefreak: gutsy doesn't have a package yet [06:35] only dapper/feisty/edgy for this release [06:35] ok [06:36] ok starting with dapper [06:36] i just finished the first 350 bugmails for mt in my mailbox :) [06:38] well on dapper it wont upgrade firefox [06:38] ooops [06:38] ok what is this https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/result/1042/210 for [06:39] ah ok i guess i go to each section instead of the listing page [06:40] gnomefreak: that should be a link [06:41] e.g. the testplan [06:47] not bad so far test 1 passed just one thing missing but not a showstopper [06:47] left comment [06:56] in the 3rd link one for testplan from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QA is that where you want the test case that i used? [06:57] damn [06:57] https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/result/1042/210 even [07:01] bluekuja: ok we don't have up to date docs ... its pretty simple: 1. get an account 2. click on the distribution you want to test (dapper/edgy/firefox) and fill out the form after you did the tests [07:01] after adding the lines to source.list you need to apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade [07:01] or run synaptic or whatever [07:01] asac: perfect [07:01] I finish writing a policy [07:02] asac: thats not what i meant [07:02] thanks [07:02] for the italian repository [07:02] i had a account [07:02] and I move to that [07:02] then I ping you when done [07:02] so you can check every detail [07:02] then I move it to the fridge [07:02] asac: k= [07:02] ? [07:02] bluekuja: i will be to sport soon ... as you know :) [07:02] if you look at https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/test/1042 the 3rd link what test it that for [07:02] damn [07:02] gnomefreak: yes thats the test case you should do [07:02] asac: when you'll be back? [07:02] k [07:03] the first two tests are just "normal" use ... the third lists specific tasks that would catch issues we had in the past [07:03] bluekuja: probably late. [07:03] darn [07:03] bluekuja: what info do you need? [07:03] asac: I just need you to give a last check [07:04] to final text [07:04] bluekuja: i trust you :) ... its more like communicating that the site exists and that they can get to #ubuntu-mozillateam or #ubuntu-testing if they need guidance [07:04] fine [07:05] bluekuja: if you want to give initial guidance give the 3 points i mentioned above to get started [07:05] ok [07:05] bluekuja: maybe try it yourself :) ... you can create an account and can click through ... you don't need to submit if you don't want to submit a not-done test :) === gnomefreak really doesnt like the way tabs are closed in 1.5 === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mozillateam.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Topic for #ubuntu-mozillateam: Home of Ubuntu Mozilla Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Bug Triagers please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/ + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures | Firefox trunk package source : https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.dev | Mailing List: ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com | Mozilla QA tracker https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/ has beta packages to test; please blog and test === Topic (#ubuntu-mozillateam): set by asac at Tue Oct 16 11:05:57 2007 [08:17] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu-mozillateam) buttons: /whois gnomefreak [08:18] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu-mozillateam) buttons: you should see all channels [08:18] (buttons/#ubuntu-mozillateam) i do [08:18] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu-mozillateam) yay it works :) [08:18] (bluekuja/#ubuntu-mozillateam) gnomefreak: done [08:18] gnomefreak: I paste it for you [08:19] where? [08:19] pastebin [08:19] can i have the link? [08:19] darn [08:21] ok gone for a while. [08:22] be back later when my troll starts his shit [08:22] lol [08:22] ok [08:26] asac ? [08:26] about bug 151400 [08:26] Launchpad bug 151400 in xulrunner-1.9 "xpcshell missing" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151400 [08:26] xpcshell is explicitly excluded [08:26] http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/xulrunner/installer/Makefile.in#47 [08:51] mozilla bug 289494 [08:51] Mozilla bug 289494 in XULRunner "Make xulrunner work with toolkit packager" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289494 === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mozillateam.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Topic for #ubuntu-mozillateam: Home of Ubuntu Mozilla Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Bug Triagers please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/ + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures | Firefox trunk package source : https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.dev | Mailing List: ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com | Mozilla QA tracker https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/ has beta packages to test; please blog and test === Topic (#ubuntu-mozillateam): set by asac at Tue Oct 16 11:05:57 2007 === rexbron [n=rexbron@62.6.158.161] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:27] gnomefreak: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ [10:27] check latest story [10:27] going to have a bath === Ubulette_ [n=Ubulette@APuteaux-153-1-64-1.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:53] Ubulette: the forum guy has a messed up install ... probably not using pristine ubuntu packages -> /usr/local/bin... [10:54] Ubulette: what do you want me to fix before 2008? [10:54] bluekuja: that looks great ... lets see what response we get [10:54] just that but maybe it's already in [10:55] Ubulette: upstream products still have those issues i guess [10:55] i reminded them multiple times ... i will try again the next time i get reminded that this bug still exists :) [10:56] by 2008, I meant 2.0.0.8 ;) [10:56] ah :) ... well we have that fix [10:56] i am not even sure that his issue is the recursuve link issue [10:56] it looked similar to me [10:56] for me it looks like he has messed up something else [10:57] maybe [10:57] so, what do you think about bug 151400 [10:57] Launchpad bug 151400 in xulrunner-1.9 "xpcshell missing" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151400 [10:57] Ubulette: do you know chpe? [10:58] no [10:58] Ubulette: he is the (nowadays main) epiphany/gecko developer ... i asked him to test our xulrunner package and report issues he has [10:58] oh [10:58] i am not sure what use-case he has for xpcshell ... however i think it should be shipped somewhere [10:59] i would guess it should be in xulrunner-1.9-dev ... unless we want to add a new package called xulrunner-1.9-tools [11:00] anyway, all this with a grain of salt, because i don't know why xpcshell is not installed in xulrunner anymore [11:00] maybe its a bug and ment to go to the sdk hierarchy [11:00] but maybe its intentional [11:00] xpcshell is explicitly excluded [11:00] http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/xulrunner/installer/Makefile.in#47 [11:00] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289494#c2 [11:00] yes i saw that ... its explicitly exlcuded in the installer code [11:00] Mozilla bug 289494 in XULRunner "Make xulrunner work with toolkit packager" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [11:01] however it probably wasn't excluded in install: target [11:01] so maybe it has just been forgotten upstream [11:01] huh? [11:01] mozilla bug 289494 [11:01] is ubotu dead? [11:01] read comment 2 [11:04] asked bsmedberg ... lets see what he replies [11:07] asac: back [11:07] :) [11:07] did you like it? [11:08] yeah ;) [11:08] you should be marketing head of the MT :) [11:09] lol [11:09] :D [11:09] asac: did you see my interview? [11:09] not yet :) [11:09] i did [11:09] Ubulette: ok does it work? [11:09] Ubulette: does it look good? :) [11:09] e.g. just removing it from NO_PKG_FILES ? [11:09] bluekuja, nice :) [11:10] asac: you can see it on http://planet.ubuntu.com or http://behindmotu.wordpress.com [11:10] Ubulette: thanks :) [11:10] asac, well, haven't tried but it should [11:10] Ubulette: ok he wants the patch ... and thinks it should go to the _runtime_ package [11:10] (not -dev) [11:11] ok, I'll do it then [11:11] Ubulette: maybe drop a line and tell chpe about the ppa ... as we will only update xulrunner on new alpha/beta releases in gutsy [11:12] (once it works) [11:13] well, i've used my ppa for a while as you wanted to keep mt one close to a8 [11:13] my ppa has the new nss [11:14] Ubulette: well ... i am not sure ... i would prefer if ppa doesn't drift too far away from the packaging point of view from what we have in gutsy [11:14] (i think) [11:14] Ubulette: what packaging things are changed on .dev branch since release? [11:14] just read bzr logs ;) [11:15] i've pushed everything [11:15] Ubulette: i read bzr logs ... but i don't remember every tiny detail [11:15] but let me look [11:16] nss.head and xul.dev should be enough [11:16] hmm ... you didn't merge revision 50 ;) [11:16] ? [11:17] do you have the uploaded 1.9~a8-0ubuntu2 changelog in your history? [11:17] thats what i closed in revision 50 on the xulrunner-1.9 branch [11:17] oh wait :) [11:17] confusion [11:19] you committed a9, I merged it in 49 with the rest and fixed it in 50 [11:20] forum users are complaining about java not working in a8 [11:20] oh ... maybe say in the commit comment that its a MERGE [11:20] launchpad web interface isn't that great [11:20] oh that was me? [11:20] 49 is a merge? [11:21] going to sleep [11:21] take care everyone [11:21] :) [11:21] u2 === bluekuja out [11:21] hmm, no. I think it's yours [11:22] Ubulette: ok 47 was the merge [11:22] ok fine now let me look :) === gcopenhaver [n=greg@c-71-206-116-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:25] hmmm ... why do we strip the tests out of xul orig tarballs? i think they should be shipped. e.g. xulrunner as upstream declares MINUS files that are bad/non-free/binary ... firefox is different in that it somehow has to be tackled upstream at some point. [11:26] more than half the tests are either non linux or binaries [11:26] what kind of binaries? [11:26] so the easiest way what to drop everything, especially as we don't build them (--disable-tests) [11:27] anyway ... stripping sources for non linux is not nice ... we should strip tarballs as close to what upstream would ship. [11:27] s/strip/ship/ [11:27] and it makes the tarball 30% smaller [11:27] it's cvs, they don't ship it [11:28] you can keep the full stuff for releases if you want [11:28] Ubulette: but they will ... its their intend to include tests ... same for firefox [11:29] ok ... we can do that [11:29] at least for now ... or until someone complains :) [11:30] yep [11:31] i would like the patch to go away then at some point :) [11:31] which one ? [11:31] plenty should go upstream [11:31] the ifdef ENABLE_TEST patch [11:32] that should go upstream [11:32] yes [11:35] http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2007-10-16/sharing-mercurial-queues-to-develop-xpcomgc/ [11:35] ok we have: [11:35] bz384304 [11:35] -> is send upstream [11:35] bz386610 -> send as well (python) the above is symlink [11:36] so all bz are on track i guess [11:36] what about dont_install_so_in_dev.patch [11:36] is that a hack? [11:37] i'd say a fix [11:37] suitable for windows et al? [11:37] otherwise you end up with duplicates [11:37] (well doesn't look like this whole code is suitable for that) [11:38] question is if upstream wants to ship sdk alone at some point [11:38] but that is already impossible because of the lines below, right? [11:38] i've just exluded .so for the tar and made 2 symlinks instead [11:38] yep, ln -s is everywhere [11:39] ok so this should go upstream [11:39] install_pkgconfig_files_with_version.patch .. hmm [11:39] that's ours [11:40] otherwise, we'll have to do alternatives === gcopenhaver [n=greg@c-71-206-116-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam [] [11:40] Ubulette: or maybe just "conflicts" of the -dev packages [11:41] i have no idea if upstream wants to shift to readable extension ids [11:41] i think its sane given you can have your own namespace using a @domain [11:41] e.g. for rename_venkman_addon.patch [11:41] so we should suggest that as well i guess [11:42] for installer_use_stdout_for_missing_files.patch i am not sure as well ... maybe they think its good to identify a build failure by counting lines of stderr ;( [11:42] what other benefit might this have? [11:43] in logs, it proved useful to me [11:43] build logs [11:43] what is useful for you? to split error messages to stderr ... or to log all on stdout? [11:44] installer_use_stdout_for_missing_files.patch [11:44] yes ... i see its useful [11:44] i just want to figure if it might be bad as well :) ... thinking about a valid use case to log errors to stderr [11:44] but i think there is none that makes sense [11:45] so we should send it up as well [11:46] feel free :) [12:01] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=577818 [12:07] i hate these kind of bugs [12:08] if you open mozbugs, give me the number so I can rename our patches in .dev [12:08] i will do that in same turn i guess [12:09] i(ve made the xpcshell patch, building [12:09] great [12:09] i have the feeling that 2.0.0.8 will be released tomorrow ... without advisories [12:10] i think this will shorten my live by yet another 6 month [12:10] ? [12:11] asac: bluekuja post to planet was sent [12:11] atleast to my blog but planet should have it soon [12:12] Ubulette: we (distributors) need some ahead time ... and need advisories to document and QA our builds [12:12] sometimes they just release ... even without announcement [12:12] sometimes they do it well [12:12] sometimes they just release without advisories ;) [12:13] its the mix that makes this painful :) [12:13] you hope ... hope more ... then fall down ;) [12:13] well, i was aware of 2008 and 2007 even without notices [12:14] being aware and knowing what goes in is not the same ;) [12:15] i haven't look deeper as i'm not interested by ff2 [12:15] Ubulette: then try to do the same: track security issues on ffox 3 branch :) [12:16] you read every commit anyway :) ... so it shouldn't be that hard ;) [12:16] hopefully, as it's trunk, it should be fixed there 1st or immediately after [12:17] yeah ... hopefully [01:13] ok, by default, it goes into /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a9pre/xpcshell [01:14] if I link it in /usr/bin, we need an alternative [01:15] does xul 1.8 ship that in usr/bin?