ThePubAaron`: you shouldn't, it's that simple.12:03
santanderunagi : caps get bad attention ;-)12:04
Aaron`my brother told me to come to this mirc internet window to get help12:04
santanderat least, in my experience :p12:04
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unagibut its attention nontheless12:04
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MasterShrekE-mu, ive seen that before, but i have no idea how to fix it12:04
MasterShrekAaron`, linux is crap compared to windows, you dont want it12:04
StevethepirateYour brother, by suggesting linux, sounds like he got all ur families 'clever genes'12:04
E-muMasterShrek does that mean it cannot access the CD image?12:04
Ishakabibble_hi guys and gals, I'm having a problem with the update manager. It keeps telling me to upgrade Compiz, but the weird thing is that every time I install the upgrade, the update manager still keeps on telling me to upgrade Compiz even though I have just done an upgrade. Does anyone know what the matter could be?12:04
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Aaron`i want linux12:04
riotkittielinux wants you too, Aaron`12:04
E-mucause dsl gives me a message it dropping me down to a shell because it cannot find the image12:04
cboxanyone help please???12:05
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Aaron`but my pc has too many programs installed already12:05
MasterShrekE-mu, i dont think thats waht it means, but im not sure exactly, googling it would be your best bet12:05
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MasterShreki gotta run every1, good luck ill be back later tonight :)12:05
MidnighTokerAaron`: linux will clear the disk for you ;)12:05
EstethIshakabibble_: That's a known bug with amaranth's repos. Simply remove the repo from your software sources after installation12:05
boselectaAaron`:  do you actually use the stuff you have installed?12:05
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Aaron`my pc is realllly slow anyway, but i paid quite a lot for it a while back. it's dell, so its good isn't it?12:05
riotkittieAaron`: if you have at least 4GB free space, you're good to go12:05
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santanderokay MasterShrek12:05
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Aaron`boselecta: i use microsoft works, norton antivirus and firewall and other programs12:05
joshjoshAaron`, You don't need antivirus or firewalls with linux12:05
santanderhi, i earlier installed ubuntu 7.04 desktop and i needed to ad a module for extra nic via 'sudo modprobe 3c59x', after that the nic showed in ifconfig. now i've installed ubuntu 7.04 server and i did again 'sudo modprobe 3c59x' , and it shows in lsmod, but my nix doesnt show in ifconfig, what should i try?12:06
ppl_can_b_koolAaron`: Joshjosh is a liar12:06
Aaron`riotkittie: i have 2 blank dvds so i can have nearly 10gb of space12:06
WinballAaron` Your in no need of those when using linux ,)12:06
ppl_can_b_koolhe's trying to h4x you i think12:06
Aaron`but my other programs need anti virus12:06
boselectaAaron`: right. so if the "other programs" are nothing special, you'll be fine with linux.12:06
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Aaron`why doesn't ubuntu12:06
cafuegoWhy is #ubuntu turning into troll central?12:06
Aaron`Because it's AFRICAN12:06
riotkittieppl_can_b_kool: simmer down.12:06
MasterShreksantander, linux-modules maybe, run aptitude and hit the / key and search for modules12:06
gnomefreakAaron`: the way the file system is in ubuntu12:06
joshjoshppl_can_b_kool, I thought this channel was for helping people, not being a lame troll. Go elsewhere, douche.12:06
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santanderokay MasterShrek i'll try :-)12:06
ppl_can_b_koolI made a single statement that I thought was funny, and you call me a douche. Not nice.12:06
gnomefreakAaron`: i suggest you stay on topic.12:07
ppl_can_b_koolI'm genuinely here to help people.12:07
Aaron`that was a joke12:07
riotkittiecafuego: i'm thinking school let out for summer like 8 months early, somewhere, maybe12:07
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patbamhi, i'm having some trouble figuring out how to mount an external usb drive. it's showing up in syslog as being " Attached scsi disk sdb", but it's not showing up in /media12:07
gnomefreakjoshjosh: that is uncalled for12:07
Aaron`anyway, so why don't i need antivirus? i have 2 installed right now to be safe12:07
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patbamsorry, kernel log12:07
boselectaAaron`: how old are you?12:07
EstethAaron`: Two antivirus at once is a bad idea, really12:07
joshjoshppl_can_b_kool, why scare people from linux? and it wasn't funny. it was lame.12:07
gnomefreakAaron`: the way ext file systems are they are harder and not as popuylar as windows fs12:07
astro76!virus | Aaron`12:07
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ubotuAaron`: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2112:08
Aaron`esteth: i like to be really safe, so i have norton 360 with firewall and then mcafee and then zone alarm12:08
ppl_can_b_kooljoshjosh: That's entirely opinion. Anyway, this isn't the place for a childish argument.12:08
gnomefreakppl_can_b_kool: dont continue it at all12:08
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Aaron`i don't want my documents hacked, i do emails and stuff that are private12:08
gnomefreakppl_can_b_kool: if you need help ask for help if you are giving help than continue12:08
ppl_can_b_koolgnomefreak: Will do. :)12:08
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gnomefreakAaron`: its safe12:09
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Aaron`but what about my other stuff12:09
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Aaron`like microsoft works12:09
gnomefreakAaron`: on linux?12:09
boselectaAaron`: you're more likely to have your emails hacked on windows than linux. and besides unencrypted email is not exactly private anyway.12:09
Aaron`i write my documents in that maintly12:09
MidnighTokerAaron`, www.openoffice.com12:09
patbamany hints on that drive?12:09
ppl_can_b_koolAaron`: There are open replacements for office applications.12:09
gnomefreakAaron`: than use oopenoffice12:09
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dc905guys, whats the 'name' of the remove programs app ? i lost it from my menu :P12:09
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ppl_can_b_koolFor example, OpenOffice. It doesn't get much more open.12:09
riotkittiethere are alternatives to microsoft works under linux. open office being one.12:09
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MidnighTokerAaron`, sorry, openoffice.org12:09
santandererm okay, how do i jump to next result in find in aptitude?12:09
riotkittieyou can install open office under windows also12:09
Aaron`yeah but i don't want to change office softawre to just install ubuntu12:09
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boselectaAaron`: why?12:10
Aaron`i want to use ubuntu and my other programs at once12:10
Winballdc905 try gnome-app-install12:10
Comrade-Sergeimy wireless is acting like it has no drivers installed.. how do i get them and install them?12:10
astro76Aaron`, if you used MS Office you might have an argument, but I guarantee OpenOffice is nicer than Works12:10
DrGizmondo_whats the position on Ubuntu security? do i need to bother with anti virus and a like12:10
cafuegoAaron`: Well, that's a problem then. Linux runs Linux software, not Windows software.12:10
Aaron`ppl can be kool, when you say open ofice, does that mean it's open security12:10
riotkittieAaron`: you may be able to run Microsoft Works under WINE but i am not sure.12:10
ppl_can_b_koolAaron`: If you insist on clinging to Windows applications, there is wine.12:10
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endoI can't seem to get flash working very well in opera/firefox. Always geeking out and needed to refresh the page. Any fixes?12:10
Aaron`all i want is basically what everyone has12:10
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MidnighTokerAaron`, "open security?"12:10
boselectai don't thing Aaron` can count on being able to get Wine going12:10
cafuegodrgizmondo: On internet facing servers you need a firewall yes, on a desktop box behind nat, don't bother.12:11
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Aaron`i want to install ubuntu linux and use it with all my other programs12:11
Aaron`like i have a link to ubuntu in the start menu12:11
DrGizmondo_and anti virus12:11
cafuegodrgizmondo: I thought antivirus was for mail servers that handle mail for windows clients ;-)12:11
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MidnighTokerAaron`, ubuntu (and/or linux) is not  a 'program'12:11
Winballand ms office12:11
santanderunagi: you were right, aaron gets a lot of positive attention now :p12:11
Aaron`why isn't it?12:11
dc905Winball, wow --- @5megs , thats big!! :P   but apt-get intall'ed and good too go.. ubuntu 7.10 is nice =)12:11
Aaron`you install the cd and run it?12:11
Aaron`run then install*12:11
riotkittieit'd be lovely if we could stop being condescending towards people in here because they choose to buy hardware that isnt open, or use MS OSes/apps. granted most people aren't doing it, but a lot of people seem to be doing it lately, and it's grating.12:11
MidnighTokerbecause ubuntu is a full operating system, a microsoft replacement, a state of mind.12:12
cboxhi hi, can someone help me with a small problem?12:12
MidnighTokernot a user-app12:12
Aaron`i thought it was like a sort of alternative to windows, like a different theme kinda12:12
Aaron`well, more than a theme12:12
astro76Aaron`, you should really have your brother explain more, perhaps12:12
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Winballdc905 What? I wouldn't know if 7.10 is nice12:12
MidnighTokerAaron`, i'd possibly show your brother a copy of the chat log too.12:12
boselectaAaron`: can you name other programs that run from within windows, but are other alternatives to windows?12:12
boselectai'm trying to understand here12:12
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dc905Winball, i recommend it!  compiz built in.. what a killer setup12:12
Aaron`astro76: i haven't spoken to him in 2 months, i don't think i'll be talking to him ever again really12:12
Comrade-Sergeihas anyone a HP DV9000 series laptop with ubuntu on iT?12:13
MidnighTokerAaron`, linux and windows both do roughly the same job, but they do it all completely differently. windows programs generally wont work on linux and vice vera12:13
Winballdc905: Bah I hate compiz :thumbsdown:12:13
Aaron`boselecta: well there's that firefox alternative to internet explorer12:13
musashii got a dv200012:13
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boselectaOK that's not the question though.12:13
dc905Winball, you dont like eyecandy? or just compiz ?12:13
Comrade-Sergeimusashi was it difficult to install ubuntu?12:13
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Aaron`firefox is to IE as what ubuntu is to windows12:13
Aaron`a different program12:13
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boselectaso why would you expect ubuntu to run from inside windows?12:14
Winballdc905 I dont like eyecandy, its useless. All default themes and black background for me12:14
Aaron`bosolecta: you install firefox in windows12:14
musashiComrade-Sergei, not with the installation of the OS, but with some of the other things like wireless internet and such12:14
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Comrade-Sergeimusashi, like did you have to play with xorg.conf before you could boot to it12:14
Aaron`you install ubuntu in windows12:14
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dc905Winball, too each there own.. my desktop is a sexy thing :P12:14
musashiComrade-Sergei, i did with my friends PC12:14
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, what wifi card have you got?12:14
musashiComrade-Sergei, Broadcom12:14
Elalguien que hable espa?ol...?12:14
boselectabut  firefox is to IE as what ubuntu is to windows12:14
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, damn12:14
Aaron`people are trying to give me viruses by saying open secuirty office suites and uninstall my anti virus programs12:14
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Aaron`it took me a long time to set them both up, now people just tell me saying uninstall them12:14
musashiComrade-Sergei, i just got the wireless working like 5 minutes ago12:14
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boselectayou don't install firefox in IE, so why install ubuntu in windows?12:14
riotkittieok, i call troll.12:15
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Comrade-Sergeimusashi, know how to do a intel abgn card12:15
MidnighTokerAaron`, you dont know what you mean by 'open'12:15
dc905Aaron`, you CAN install ubuntu IN windows if u use a virtual machine software l..12:15
musashiComrade-Sergei, but with my friends pc i had to edit the xorg.conf12:15
Aaron`Maybe i should just cut to the chase12:15
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musashiComrade-Sergei, not a clue :(12:15
Aaron`i read this text thing called how to be a hacker. and it said that i need linux to go on12:15
Ishakabibble_Is there any kind of Ubuntu podcast around?12:15
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Aaron`i thought linux was like a hacking suite?12:15
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gnranyone else had the problem with twinview, windows maximise to both screens12:15
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, what did you have to do with that with the wireless, i had to screw with that b/c linux dosent like my video card12:15
astro76oh it gets better :o12:15
riotkittieAaron`: can you go troll somewhere else, please?12:15
dfletcherthis has got to be a troll :)12:16
Aaron`riotkittie: troll?12:16
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boselectai think so12:16
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dc905aarong, you can run a hacker suite in windows using vmware too12:16
Aaron`wtf is a troll12:16
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Estethgnr: Yes, i solved the problem by installing compiz. You can disable all the effects if you want.12:16
MidnighTokerAaron`, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/  -it will tell you *everything* you need to know12:16
musashiComrade-Sergei, i had to do alot of stuff, but only cause im new to linux. someone else prolly could have done it in less than 4 days ._.12:16
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Aaron`what's vm ware12:16
dc905Aaron`, you should go try vmware.. google it12:16
astro76!vmware | Aaron`12:16
ubotuAaron`: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers12:16
dc905come back when u have it mastered ;)12:16
Aaron`multiverse? repository?12:16
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, im not exactly new to linux but ive never had to deal with this crap before12:16
Aaron`all i want is to get linux installed to try this book out12:17
WinballJust do it12:17
boselectathen use the live CD12:17
astro76!install | Aaron`12:17
ubotuAaron`: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate12:17
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Aaron`yeah i'm trying to understand how to install it on windows12:17
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musashiComrade-Sergei, yea, i didnt really do linux before for the same reason12:17
ppl_can_b_koolAaron`: It's not that hard. I'm sure the people here would be more than willing to take your hand a guide you through it.12:17
danciosi've got problem with X crashing and hanging. radeon 9250 driver radeon12:17
musashiComrade-Sergei, but we are using it in class so i gave it another go12:17
Aaron`i just want a program called ubuntu in the start menu12:17
Aaron`and then i click and it runs ubuntu12:17
musashiComrade-Sergei, what was your problem, again?12:17
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dc905aaron - u need vmware12:17
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boselectaAaron`: it doesn't work like that. run the Live CD.12:17
dc905dont make me say it again, i will ping yo to death12:18
CPrompt^hi.  was wondering if someone would look at this menu.lst file and tell me if it is correct for the splashimage section before I reboot12:18
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santanderMasterShrek only think i finf that loks alike is linux-restricted-modules12:18
Aaron`why can't you people just tell me what i need to know12:18
WinballAaron` You should also considder ubuntu wubi12:18
notgodMasterShrek: any other kernel/boot params I can try tweaking? like is there a noagp option or something?12:18
dc905can someone kick him? :P12:18
boselectai just did. run the live CD. no installing required.12:18
Aaron`all i want to do is install ubuntu12:18
santanderAaron`: wubi is great, you don't need to know anything, it does all by itself12:18
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, my wifi, my sound and my crappy video drivers...12:18
Aaron`what is wubi?12:18
Winballdc905 did you get my msg?12:18
mc44!wubi | Aaron`12:18
ubotuAaron`: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html12:18
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blaydeAaron`, Ubuntu needs complete control of it's hardware so you'll have to emulate hardware w/ vmware, qemu, etc12:18
musashiComrade-Sergei, my sound is still not working properly either...12:19
musashiComrade-Sergei, it works sometimes but not all the time12:19
astro76Aaron`, http://www.google.com/search?q=wubi12:19
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EstethAaron` VMware will let you do that, but i think you have the idea wrong. Ubuntu is like windows. You use ubuntu instead of windows, not in windows12:19
Aaron`maybe i've got it wrong12:19
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Aaron`ubuntu is a program, yeah?12:19
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PF|WSTPIs there a way on Server that I can change permissions to list the contents of a dir via HTTP?12:19
astro76!ubuntu | Aaron`12:19
ubotuAaron`: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com12:19
gnroooer i installed compiz, not it wont detect my other monitor :o12:19
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danciosi've got problem with X crashing and hanging. radeon 9250 driver radeon. The resul is that i cannot stop-reset X with combination A:T+CTRL+BACKSPACE or escape to console. dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 . ii  libc6          2.5-0ubuntu14  GNU C Library: Shared libraries12:20
Aaron`oh lord12:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about php5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:20
boselectaEsteth:  Aaron` knows that firefox is to IE as what ubuntu is to windows. he's trolling12:20
Pelognr,  ask in #ubuntu-effects or in #compiz-fusion , they'll be able to help you out with this12:20
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riotkittiePelo: just. say. no.12:20
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PF|WSTPIs there a way on Server that I can change permissions to list the contents of a dir via HTTP?12:20
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Peloriotkittie,  you don'T think I should ?12:20
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mistone_PF|WSTP: why not use FTP?12:21
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MidnighTokerpf in your apache config add +Indexes to Options12:21
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Estethboselecta: Oh, ok.12:21
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PF|WSTPMidnighToker where's the apache config12:21
CPrompt^PF|WSTP : if you ssh into the server you can do dir12:21
santanderanyone: i've modprobed the right modules for a nic, it shows in lsmod, but not in ifconfig, what should i try?12:21
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mistone_or ssh12:21
PF|WSTPI want this over HTTP for a reason12:21
riotkittiePelo: oh go for it. you are good at what you do, and seem to have the patience of a saint.12:21
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dc905Winball, get MY msg?? :P12:21
ThePubPF|WSTP: it's less an issue of permissions and more an issue of services.  http is for web pages, you might want to look into setting up a web dave server though.12:21
MidnighTokerPF: i assume its /etc/apache2/httpd.conf  -unsure, i dont use Ubuntu on the server12:21
PF|WSTPMidnighToker where's the apache config12:21
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DemortesGood god, someone help me.12:21
musashigl Comrade-Sergei, im actually in class so i gotta go12:22
Comrade-Sergeimy mouse!12:22
Peloriotkittie,  in here I can always tell ppl that I have to go , that helps a lot with the patience issue12:22
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Aaron`right back12:22
BlindravenDemortes, whats up?12:22
Aaron`look, all i want is to install this ubuntu12:22
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DemortesWrong channel, gutsy, sorry12:22
CPrompt^PF|WSTP : then you are going to have to use server side scripting to do it  (PHP, Perl, etc)  or don't put an index.html page in that directory12:22
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Aaron`i don't need another operational system12:22
ppl_can_b_koolAaron`: welcome back.12:22
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neverblue2does Gutsy have LTS ?12:22
Aaron`i have windows, that's all i need on my dell, right?12:22
boselectathen you don't need ubuntu12:22
MidnighTokerAaron`, that  is what ubuntu is.12:22
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brobostigonhi, i have put my kubuntu machine into reccovery mode as it woodent boot, and constantly keeps showing io-error hdc sector 0, during boot, do i need to run fsck,and how do i do that??12:22
Aaron`is ubuntu ok on dells12:22
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information12:22
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PF|WSTPCPrompt^, there isnt an index there12:22
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PF|WSTPCPrompt^ it says "you dont have permissions to access /dir/ on this server"12:22
SnuxollAaron`: Yes12:23
nickrudlol, probably12:23
CPrompt^PF|WSTP : then you need to ssh into that directory and change the permissions.  Is this a web server or local?12:23
SnuxollDell sells machines with Ubuntu preinstalled if thats any clue12:23
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PF|WSTPCPrompt^ web and local12:23
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PF|WSTPCPrompt^ the dir is /var/www/stuff/12:24
brobostigonhi, i have put my kubuntu machine into reccovery mode as it woodent boot, and constantly keeps showing io-error hdc sector 0, during boot, do i need to run fsck,and how do i do that??12:24
MidnighTokerAaron`, whats the guide you're folling that says you need linux?12:24
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CPrompt^PF|WSTP : then change the permissions to 750 and it should work fine12:24
PF|WSTPCPrompt^ ok12:24
Blindravenchown 777 *.*12:24
notgodanyone have any idea how to make a server qith a quadro4 cars boot properly? Currently it garbles the screen entirely. The system boots, but I can't interact with it.12:24
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PF|WSTPCPrompt^ didnt work. I even did 777 and it didnt work12:24
Pelobrobostigon, do a search in the forum for the exact error msg you get12:24
MidnighTokerPF|WSTP, what version of apache?12:25
Pelobrobostigon, www.ubuntuforums.org12:25
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PF|WSTPMidnighToker, 2.2.412:25
graelbI'm trying to run driftnet on my local machine, but it only shows pictures from my local machine... go figure, right? So is there a way to run it on my router, and see the output on my local machine?12:25
PF|WSTPMidnighToker, 2.2.312:25
CPrompt^PF|WSTP : stupid question but are you in the correct directory?12:25
MidnighTokerPF|WSTP, it wont show you a dir index unless you specifially enable it in the apache conf.12:25
CheeseGardenerIs 10.9% contingous files bad for ubuntu?  is that too much fragmentation?12:25
notgodno x, plain text interface. Screen gets corrupted (wavy lines and dots across the screen)12:25
PF|WSTPMidnighToker, ok I need to know how to do that then12:25
CPrompt^PF|WSTP : chmod 750 html_dir -R should work12:25
MidnighTokerCheeseGardener, where did you get the info from?12:25
lamegoCheeseGardener, you dont need to care about fragmention on linux filesystems12:25
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Pelograelb, are the pictures on the other computers in a shared folder ?12:26
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MidnighTokerPF|WSTP, if you create a webpage called index.html will it show it?12:26
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CheeseGardenerMidnighToker, I got it from a disk check.12:26
CPrompt^PF|WSTP : don't forget the -R so it is recursive and changes the files and subfolders12:26
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PF|WSTPMidnighToker, just a sec12:26
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CheeseGardenerMidnighToker, it is on /home12:26
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graelbPelo: no, driftnet is supposed to pick up stray packets as people on the network are browsing the web12:26
graelbwell, stray packets of pictures12:27
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MidnighTokerCheeseGardener, what disk check? -sorry, new to ubuntu but intregued by the idea of none-contiguous files. i keep getting told there is a) no need and b) no way to defrag on linux12:27
graelbat least, that's the impression i got12:27
Pelograelb, ah , don'T know the prog I was assuming something else12:27
MidnighTokerCheeseGardener, infact, what file system?12:27
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lamegoMidnighToker, there is no need to defrag on linux12:27
graelbOk, the real question is can i use everything that's installed on my computer, but run the program on another machine?12:27
santanderi need help configuring a second nic in my pc12:27
lamegothat indication, is just a statistical indication, with no major impact on performance12:27
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CheeseGardenerMidnightToker, it's EXT312:28
MidnighTokerlamego, is there no software to defrag fragmented files?12:28
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lamegoMidnighToker, there is a defrag utility, but it is not required12:28
PF|WSTPMidnighToker, if I put an index.html, it just shows the text I put in the index12:28
PF|WSTPMidnighToker not the files in the dir12:28
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PeloMidnighToker, ext3 does not need defragmenting, it works differently then FAT*  file systems which got ppl used to defrag12:29
MidnighTokerPF|WSTP, ok, so the permissions are fine, infact i'd make a point of setting them back to 755 at miimum12:29
MidnighTokerPelo, k12:29
PF|WSTPMidnighToker, done12:29
MidnighTokerPF|WSTP, just check it can still see the index12:29
cafuegoPF|WSTP: So apache is being good, the "Indexes" option is disabled on that dir, which means it won't show a list of files.12:29
lamegoMidnighToker, ext3 and other linux FSs are not affected by fragmentation, it does exist but it does not affects the performance12:29
MidnighTokerPF|WSTP, step two is to locate your httpd.conf... usually in /etc/apache212:29
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PF|WSTPMidnighToker ok12:30
MidnighTokerlamego, i find it impossible to believe it doesn't affect performance, infact due to the way my HDD works, it HAS TO.12:30
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ubotudefragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.12:30
cafuegoMidnighToker: You can probably do it via .htaccess instead of setting it globally.12:30
PF|WSTPMidnighToker, the /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty12:30
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MidnighTokercafuego, good point, ta12:30
MidnighTokerPF|WSTP, hang on12:31
lamegoMidnighToker, if you do not believe, please read about it, that is a very common question, replied on several forums and articles :)12:31
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Hilikusis there any software like bootcamp or anything to organize yourself, todo list, reminders, all that crap, but downloadable? so that i can install it in my server?12:31
[ASG] smileglasses12:31
CPrompt^PS|WSTP : that's not a good sign12:31
Pelolamego,  please pay attention , this issue was resolved a while back12:31
cwgannoncan somebody please tell me how to make my video files open with vlc by default?  it's not in Preferred Apps like i thought it would be12:31
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EstethHilkus: I beleive Evolution (ships with ubuntu) does what you want, allthough i don't use it much12:32
MidnighTokerPF|WSTP, try a file called ".htaccess" that contains the line "Options +Indexes"12:32
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cafuegocwgannon: Right clock a video file, choose Properties > Open With12:32
PF|WSTPMidnighToker in the dir?12:32
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CheeseGardenerso wait, do I really have 10.9% contingous files?  or will that number go down???12:33
Pelocwgannon,  assuming that vlc is installed ,    select a video file, right click,  properties,  select the open with tab,  add it , either from the list or form the  field at the bottom you only need to type vlc not the whole path12:33
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CheeseGardenerCan EXT3 file fragmentation go down a lot?12:33
Redhammer_the_Olhi short (simple?) question, I have some KDE apps in Gnome and want to control their behaviour ie double click and single clikc -- how do I do it ? what control prg do I need to use? thanks12:33
patbamhi, when i attach an external usb drive i get "attached scsi disk sdb", and it shows up in the device manager. but i can't figure out how to access the contents12:33
santanderhi, i earlier installed ubuntu 7.04 desktop and i needed to ad a module for extra nic via 'sudo modprobe 3c59x', after that the nic showed in ifconfig. now i've installed ubuntu 7.04 server and i did again 'sudo modprobe 3c59x' , and it shows in lsmod, but my nix doesnt show in ifconfig, what should i try?12:33
MidnighTokerCheeseGardener, i say you need to defrag, linux or not. if the files are fragmented then it means the drive head is having to move to re-seek. that HAS to slow things down.12:33
gnrAnyone here had problems with twinview maximising to both screens? anyone manage to fix it?12:33
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cwgannoncafuego & Pelo: vlc isn't listed, so i enter that as the command, but that only opens vlc (and not the file i'm trying to play)12:33
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PF|WSTPMidnighToker nope12:33
PeloCheeseGardener,  the system will take care of that as you go , don'T worrry about it , it will go down12:34
lamegoMidnighToker, do not say what you don't know about, you do not need to defrag with EXT3 !!!12:34
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HilikusEsteth but i dont want an application, im running a server, i want something to set up an online service12:34
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lamegoMidnighToker, before starting with theoretical generic advices, read something, please12:34
cafuegocwgannon: You can choose a custom command and enter 'vlc' there.12:34
Hilikussomething than runs on apache12:34
Pelocwgannon,  you need to add vlc to the open with tab,  after that , that type of video file will open with vlc,  you need to do it for each file type12:34
MidnighTokerlamego, give me a link to read then12:34
cwgannoncafuego & Pelo: vlc isn't listed, so i enter that as the command, but that only opens vlc (and not the file i'm trying to play)12:35
cafuegoHilikus: There is any number of freely available groupware suites12:35
PeloMidnighToker,  I beleive the ext3 article on wikipedia has a nice summery12:35
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CheeseGardenerPelo, oh, so the system will defrag itself as it goes along?  The reason I ask is, when I went to gutsy, I had to force the computer to shut down sometimes when it froze, until I was able to fix it.  But will EXT3 fix any fragments on its own?12:35
MidnighTokerPelo, ta12:35
cafuegocwgannon: You may need vlc "%s"12:35
lamegoMidnighToker, google.com: linux defrag12:35
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gnrhaving troubles with twinview, windows maximise to both screens... any1 manage to fix this?12:35
EstethHiikus: ohh, sorry, i misunderstood. I don't know of any downloadable productivity suites myself, for installing on servers12:35
Hilikuscafuego but i want to run them on my server. most of them are free but THEY host it12:35
boselectacwgannon: did you install VLC the right way? or by hand?12:35
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astro76MidnighToker, http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting12:36
cafuegoHilikus: Not at all, lots of free self-host ones.12:36
cwgannoncafuego: just tried it with no luck12:36
boselectabecause i have it installed and it turns up automatically in my open-with list12:36
cwgannonboselecta: installed via synaptic, will try a reinstall now though12:36
Hilikuscafuego so i cant find them, can you give me names?12:36
Pelolater folks12:36
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MidnighTokerastro76, thanks12:36
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boselectamy open-with vlc command is wxvlc12:37
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cafuegoHilikus: zimbra (needs fairly big box, not 100% open, but nice) or IMP or Groupoffice or phpgroupware12:37
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Hilikuscool, thanks12:37
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cafuegoHilikus: have a search on www.freshmeat.net12:37
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markelhashi ppl, yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp.12:37
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Hilikuscafuego what are they called?12:37
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CheeseGardenerMidnighToker, so linux will defrag itself more or less?12:37
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cafuegoHilikus: search for groupware there12:37
boselectacwgannon: my open-with vlc command is wxvlc12:37
zaggy-nlIs it normal for the livecd to take ages and ages to load?12:37
P_KableWhat tool should I use to check a hard drive completely (sectors and all of that...)12:37
boselectazaggy-nl: comparatively, yes12:37
cafuegoHilikus: server based ones are all designed to provide shared calendar/contacts/mail for multiple users.12:38
astro76CheeseGardener, yeah an that article points out that files can be re-arranged on the fly12:38
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:38
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MidnighTokerCheeseGardener, not that i know of, but then everyone seems to be telling me i'm wrong so i wouldn't pay me any attention ;)12:38
zaggy-nlboselecta, I'm installing it on a 256MB RAM laptop, cd drive keeps making noise, taking forever!12:38
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cafuegoHilikus: A few of these are packaged for Ubuntu as well, so you cna install them via aptitude.12:38
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boselectazaggy-nl: that will take a while. is it doing anything on the screen?12:38
MidnighTokerastro76, thanks for the link but it tells me linux FS's dont get fragmented. i have info here saying one is, so the link doesn't really help12:39
cwgannonboselecta: wxvlc doesn't work either after a reinstall12:39
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zaggy-nlboselecta, yes, I just started the installation, It's at the languages menu, my cursor dissappeared, no keyboard/mouse response12:39
cdm10MidnighToker: What makes you think it's fragmented?12:39
astro76MidnighToker, is your disk >80% full, the article says fragmentation can occur if it is12:39
markelhashi ppl, yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp.12:39
zaggy-nlI'm downloading the alternate gutsy cd now, should be faster12:40
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MidnighTokercdm10, it was CheeseGardener saying he had "10% none contiguous files"12:40
cdm10MidnighToker: Linux filesystems get fragmented, but nowhere near as easily or as badly as Windows filesystems. If it's below 10% fragmentation, there's really no need to defragment.12:40
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boselectacwgannon: do you need to re-start gnome or something for the change to register, maybe?12:40
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[ASG] !start12:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:40
cwgannonboselecta: will try that12:41
gnrin my nvidia setup im getting the error "unable to to remove old X config backup file" when i remove this manually i get the error "unable to creat X config backup file" lol.... what am i doing wrong?12:41
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markelhasppl some help one my wifi problem plz.12:41
P_KableWhat tool should I use to check a hard drive completely (sectors and all of that...)12:41
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cdm10P_Kable: fsck12:41
lamegoP_Kable, dd12:41
MidnighTokerCheeseGardener, right, done some googling. the fragmentation you see is not file fragmentation, so its not a problem12:41
P_Kablecdm10=>  fsck /dev/sdb1 is a complete test ?12:41
cdm10P_Kable: DD is for copying a drive, fsck is for checking it.12:41
intr80_P_Kable: spinright12:41
CheeseGardenerMidnighToker, it's not?  Then what is it?12:41
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boselectafsck is for checking a filesystem12:42
P_Kablespinright ?12:42
Derspankstercreative audigy 2 soundcard ok with ubuntu?12:42
noelferreirahow can i check my disk for erros?12:42
lamegofsck does a file system check, does it sector reading for the entire disk ?12:42
cdm10P_Kable: hold on, lemme get the command... generally it's not a good idea to run fsck in read/write mode on a mounted partition so I'm checking how to make it read-only.12:42
P_Kableyeah fsck is for FS12:42
gnrin my nvidia setup im getting the error "unable to to remove old X config backup file" when i remove this manually i get the error "unable to create X config backup file" lol.... what am i doing wrong?12:42
lamegocdm10, by reading the entire disk, you are checking for physical errors12:42
cafuegolamego: it will if you give it the right options12:42
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P_KableI unmounted the partition already cdm1012:42
cdm10P_Kable: oh, you're looking for more than an FS check? Then use Spinrite.12:42
MidnighTokerCheeseGardener, have a look at thelink, under fragmentation/optimisation12:42
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P_Kableand fsck seems to be too fast for a good "check"12:42
cdm10CheeseGardener: anything 10% or below won't cause any problems, you really shouldn't try to defrag your partition.12:43
P_Kablespinrite or spinright ??12:43
lamegofsck is good only for FS structure checks, not for surface scans, if that is the case12:43
cdm10P_Kable: SpinRite12:43
noelferreiramy systems interrupted because of electric failure and on boot i had IO erros in my drive. how can i check for it and maybe correct them?12:43
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lamegonoelferreira, fsck12:43
P_Kablethx cdm1012:43
paotzucdm10: on linux it is not really a concern about "fragmentation" but "linearization."  That's why fsck reports data as "contiguous"12:43
cafuegoif all you want is a blocks test, use `badblocks'.12:44
cdm10paotzu: I realize that, I'm just saying that CheeseGardener shouldn't be worried about fragmentation...12:44
markelhasyesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp.12:44
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cdm10markelhas: what chipset is that card? run lspci to find out.12:44
paotzucdm10: ah I came in after that part12:44
cdm10markelhas: pastebin your lspci results12:44
P_Kablecdm10=>  spinrite is not in the repos :(12:44
CheeseGardenerMidnighToker, so what is continous data?  I'm confused.12:44
cdm10!paste | markelhas12:44
ubotumarkelhas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:44
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cdm10P_Kable: it's a $90 program from grc.com12:44
gnrin my nvidia setup im getting the error "unable to to remove old X config backup file" when i remove this manually i get the error "unable to creat X config backup file" lol.... what am i doing wrong?12:44
cdm10P_Kable: but it's the best for actual HD checks.12:44
MidnighTokerCheeseGardener, you know, i really dont know any more :S12:44
cdm10P_Kable: if you just want to check the entire filesystem, fsck will be fine.12:45
cdm10P_Kable: if you back up regularly, I wouldn't worry about anything.12:45
P_Kableno I wanna check the HD12:45
lamegocdm10, why are you advising for comercial software when there is open source software on the repositories for the same purpose :) ?12:45
cafuegoP_Kable: Like I said, `badblocks'.12:45
cdm10lamego: Well, I don't know of the open software.12:45
cdm10lamego: What is it?12:45
markelhascdm10, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40750/12:45
santanderi have a problem, i asked before, now i put it on : http://pastebin.com/m7ebbb9ed12:45
CheeseGardenerMidnighToker, alright.  Thanks anyway for the help!  I appreciate it.  L8er12:46
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cdm10I mean, I've heard great things about SpinRite, so I was just recommending it.12:46
lamegoread what other people already mentioned, like, badblocks, dd12:46
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cwgannonboselecta: restart of gnome didn't fix the vlc issue12:46
paotzuP_Kable: if you want to extract the data and also see where there are problems, you can image your partition with ddrescue (no underscore)12:46
cdm10lamego: dd copies stuff, it doesn't scan the disk for surface errors.12:46
markelhascdm10, i've managed to put it work either with ndiswapper or mad-wifi tools12:46
lamegocdm10, not again, dd reads data, if you run dd over an entire disk, it will trigger any disk I/O errors12:46
cdm10markelhas: I'm not familiar with how to get wifi working with that card, so I can't help you there.12:46
markelhascdm10, but now i do the same process but the card don't work12:46
lamegoyou can dd to dev null just to read the entire disk12:47
paotzuP_Kable: if it makes an image of your partition without having to read the same bits over and over, you have no problems12:47
cdm10lamego: yeah, but if the disk is failing but the ECC works ok, wouldn't it not find any errors?12:47
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boselectaso VLC is in the applications menu, and it runs properly, but doesn't appear in the "Open With" menu.12:47
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cdm10boselecta: so right click on the file of the type you want to set to open with VLC, go to Properties>Open With and add VLC manually.12:47
cwgannonboselecta: right12:47
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P_Kablepaotzu=>  I do not have space for an image, the drive is 200GB and 90% full12:47
markelhas"yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp."12:47
P_Kablebut thx paotzu12:48
lamegocdm10, dd is a nice tool, for a trivial testing12:48
markelhasany tips ppl?12:48
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astro76boselecta, yeah you're right, you can type vlc into custom command12:48
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Ginboselecta, you have to right click on the file and chose open with other.. and then select vlc. after that it iwill shows "open with vlc" for that type of files12:48
cdm10lamego: alright12:48
astro76boselecta, it doesn't show in my open with either12:48
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cwgannonboselecta: i'm doing what you advise, but neither "vlc" nor "wxvlc" as commands work entirely -- they do open vlc but do not open the file at all12:49
boselectaweird. anyway it's cwgannon with the problem. s/he claims that even manually setting the "open with" to vlc or wxvlc does not work.12:49
MidnighTokerif i install a second HDD into my computer, will Ubuntu try and read it at boot time?12:49
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boselectaok i see. maybe there's a filename expando or something you have to put in there.12:49
cafuegoMidnighToker: Not normally until you partitiln, format and mount it.12:49
cwgannonboselecta: i'm wondering if this is because the file is on a samba share...?12:49
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cafuegoMidnighToker: if it's already got filesystems, just add it to /etc/fstab.12:50
astro76cwgannon, yeah that could definitely be it12:50
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MidnighTokercafuego, its partitioned and formatted, i just dont want the OS to try mounting it or anything... want to DD it to another box as its a non-booting system from another PC12:50
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astro76cwgannon, not all apps support however it is that gnome mounts stuff, but you can mount samba shares for real in your /etc/fstab12:50
cafuegoMidnighToker: Even if it goes mount it, just unmount it again ;-)12:51
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markelhascan any one help me with wifi config?12:51
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lamegoMidnighToker, yes, the disk should be recognized, just look for it with: sudo fdisk -l12:51
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MidnighTokercafuego, well, yeah, i just dont want Ubuntu boot to try fixing it or anything12:51
astro76MidnighToker, unless it's in your fstab it won't be mounted or checked12:51
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MidnighTokerastro76, ta12:52
cafuegoMidnighToker: it won't try to fix it unless it's in fstab to begin with.12:52
cwgannonboselecta & astro76: confirmed working now with a local file -- can you please explain how to make opening with vlc the default?12:52
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MidnighTokeris there any file system recovery software in the Ubuntu package manager?12:52
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cwgannonastro76: is it advisable to mount my samba shares with /etc/fstab?  are there any repercussions i should be aware of?12:53
astro76cwgannon, no that's perfectly sane12:53
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astro76cwgannon, *yes12:53
markelhas"yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp."12:53
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boselectacwgannon: all i can suggest is what i've already said. right click on the file and set the open-with.12:53
cafuegocwgannon: use the 'credentials' option to specify login details, so you don't have the user/pass readable in fstab.12:53
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astro76MidnighToker, besides fsck?12:54
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cwgannonboselecta: thank you for your help12:54
MidnighTokerastro76, well, yeah :S12:55
boselectasorry i couldn't do more.12:55
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lamegoMidnighToker, yes, there is a tool called "testdisk"12:55
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cwgannoncafuego & astro76: thanks for the help on mounting the samba share (i'm following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872&highlight=mounting+shares)12:55
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lamegotestdisk - Partition scanner and disk recovery tool12:55
youknowmecan I connect to computers with Ubuntu loaded on them directly to each other through they're Ethernet ports and have a network-like file transfer set-up?12:55
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sashimihi everybody12:55
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MidnighTokeryouknowme, you need the correct type of network cable, but yes12:56
astro76cwgannon, that looks good12:56
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sashimicould someone give me a hand with bluetooth on gusty ?12:56
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edubuntuCrossover set ips to same subnet12:56
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MidnighTokerlamego, thanks.  -and for my last question: how can i create a partition spanning two physical drives?12:56
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ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup12:56
lamegoMidnighToker, using LVM12:56
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ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO12:56
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cwgannonboselecta: i'm an idiot and misread part of your suggestions and you did indeed tell me how to make videos open by default in vlc, so thank you once more12:57
tdscan someone help me with samba? i'm a complete newb12:57
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:57
MidnighTokerhehe, i'm liking this bot12:57
youknowmemidnightoker: so technically it should work? But I have tried it, well, I tried using vncviewer with it, but I still had them directly connected.12:58
youknowmeWHat do you mean "right kind of cable" should not standard eth cable work?12:58
P_Kabledoes spinrite runs on linux ? just wanna make sure ...12:58
Tajhi every one12:58
lamegoyouknowme, no, it must be a cross-over cable12:58
linnoobhey is anyone availible to help a hopeless linux noob?12:58
P_Kableit looks like a windows type application12:58
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mc44linnoob: just ask your question :)12:58
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MidnighTokeryouknowme, connecting two PCs together (without a switch/router/hub) needs a crossover cable. pairs 1+2 are swapped over (so send goes to recieve and vice versa)12:58
linnoobits a bit complicated12:58
lamegoP_Kable, have you tried badblocks already ?12:58
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Taji am new to ubuntu and want to know one thing that do ubuntu support intel wireless 2200bg?12:58
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P_Kablelamego=>  nope12:59
linnoobi have that and it doesnt work12:59
maxois it worth upgrading to the 7.1rc? I mean, is it pretty stable?12:59
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maxo* Ubuntu 7.1 release candidate12:59
lamegoP_Kable, badblocks is the standard tool to detect and mark bad disk blocks12:59
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lamegomaxo, 3 days and you have the final release, wait :)12:59
maxolamego: what about the rc though? is it worth it?12:59
P_Kablebut how about spinrite ? is it linux compatible ?01:00
linnoobok, so my 8800 drivers arent working, when i enable the drivers and restart my computer, the thing f's up and i get all these weird ass colors and letters and it basically says that it cant load the drivers01:00
lamegowell, I am using it, nothing to complain about ;)01:00
Kudakwhen 7.10 gets out, can i upgrade my 7.4 to it ????01:00
P_Kableis there a package ?01:00
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maxook, hell I might as well try it. but if my computer blows up, I blame you all lol01:00
linnoobi tried downloading the latest drivers, but once i get them, i have no idea what to do with them01:00
Tajyou can upgrade...01:00
youknowmemidnightoker: ohic, well forwarding ports on my router never seems to work.01:00
youknowmeWould it be wise to forward all ports to be sure? as for the Internet and my open ports, would it not be the same as if I was directly connected to the net?01:00
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seanhHey, did the realplayer package get removed for gutsy?01:00
KudakTaj: aight thanks.01:00
lamegoP_Kable, no, spinrite is not available on the repositories01:00
P_KableI know01:00
MidnighTokeryouknowme, why do you want to portforward everything? --what are you actually trying to do?01:00
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P_Kablebut how does it work ?01:01
linnoobanyone knoe what to do?01:01
boselectaseanh: i spent an entire night trying to make realplayer go and had nothing but probs on gutsy.01:01
lamegoP_Kable, this is not the best place to ask about a comercial application, which is not ubuntu neither linux related01:01
Tajjust wanna know if some one know that do ubuntu support intel wireless 2200bg i try mandrake and it doesn't work for me... :(01:01
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P_KableOf course lamego but I presumed someone used it here at least once ... :)01:02
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lamegoP_Kable, no, you just got that app name, from a non linux user :)01:02
youknowmemidnightoke: I have never been able to set up a network or do anything useful rather than share a net connection with a router.01:02
youknowmeI'd like to try setting something up, even dabble in using a thin-client.01:02
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seanhboselecta -- did you figure out how to play real audio streams? I've been using mplayer but it's crashing01:02
linnoobsooooo no one knows how to make nvidia drivers work?01:02
Taji have acer 4060 laptop and in mandava 2007 it say press the wireless button01:02
linnoobor how to install drivers???01:02
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itnomadTaj: it works. There is an freenode channel for support.01:02
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boselectaseanh no i ended up getting wmv streams working instead.01:02
lamegolinnoob, nvidia drivers work out of the box for most cards01:02
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youknowmelinnoob, restricted manager?01:03
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itnomadI can't remember the name, I am checking now.01:03
P_Kablelamego=>  from a non linux user ??01:03
boselectahad no luck with realvideo01:03
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KudakTaj: maybe this will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30904101:03
maxoTaj: google, first result: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30904101:03
TixerI just installed Gutsy, and it broke my install of Icecast by giving me a fatal error when I try to run it.01:03
Tajcan you please provide me channel name for support.01:03
maxokudak, you beat me to it lol01:03
PiciTixer: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support/discussion.01:03
Kudakmaxo: lol :)01:03
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FrogzooTixer: pretty sure gutsy's not released yet01:03
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:03
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itnomadTaj: ipw210001:05
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Kudakanyone knows a good book that teaches all about network related topics such as protocols and so on, i need a book that starts with the very basics and teaches "how things work"01:05
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itnomadthat is the channel name. all you need to know is in the links provided when you join the channel, most likely.01:05
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jason|cahi -- im trying to share files from my fiesty Kubuntu drive to a windows 2000 machine.  i can access the machine but it keeps rejecting my  username and password -- i need help please01:06
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Taji read that post before but the thing is that do ubuntu 7.04 support wireless 2200bg out of the box01:06
Tajlike suse 10.301:06
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MidnighTokerjason|ca, using ubuntu as the server?01:07
Tajmandrava 2007.1 do not support01:07
] tyndareus] hi everyone01:07
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MidnighTokerjason|ca, make sure its shared on the ubuntu machine, on the windows box run `net use z: \\[ubuntu] \[share name\ /USER:[username on ubuntu box] 01:08
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jason|caMidnighToker: ok01:08
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ScuniziWhat are the default port numbers for the built in Remote Desktop in Ubuntu from "system/preferances" ?01:09
MidnighTokerScunizi, 5800, 590001:09
MidnighTokerScunizi, its VNC01:09
ScuniziMidnighToker, do I need both?01:09
MidnighTokerScunizi, just 5900 if you have a client01:09
MidnighToker5800 is a web/java interface usually01:10
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ScuniziMidnighToker, yea.. I'll be using tightvnc on a win box into my machine.01:10
jazzanovahow can I find out what version of ubuntu I am no01:10
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PreZLaptopbah, GG download keeps bouncing between 120-180kb/s :(01:10
Seveasjazzanova, lsb_release -a01:10
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PreZLaptopit should be able to go up to about 2.5mb/s on my link :(01:11
graelbQuick question. In a man file, if something says [-] option, what does the brackets around the - mean?01:11
Seveasgraelb, reading the manpage for ps? :)01:11
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jason|caMidnighToker: for some reason it keeps reporting network name not found01:11
Comrade-Sergeiwhere is the sources.list file?01:12
graelbps? ifconfig01:12
MidnighTokerjason|ca, can you ping the box?01:12
nickrudComrade-Sergei: /etc/apt01:12
mc44PreZLaptop: the mirrors may not be as fast as your link ;)01:12
Comrade-Sergeithanks nickrud i forgot again01:12
Seveasgraelb, they mean that the - is optional01:12
jason|caMidnighToker: yes01:12
graelbSeveas:  I'm trying to put my eth1 into promiscuous mode01:12
graelbon my home network /disclaimer01:12
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MidnighTokerjason|ca did you set up samba on the remote box?01:12
jason|caremote = ubuntu?01:13
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jason|cai can ping by IP not necess by name01:13
jason|caand i changed the netuse to reflect the ip01:13
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MidnighTokerjason|ca, kk  -can did you use hostname or IP in the net use command?01:13
jason|cai used the ip01:13
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tdscan someone help me with samba?01:13
PreZLaptopmc44, well, I just can't see an option to 'switch servers'01:13
MidnighTokerjason|ca, any firewalls on any of the boxes? how are they conencted? what IPs?01:14
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mc44PreZLaptop: there isn't one :)01:14
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graelbSeveas: Do you know anything about driftnet?01:14
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jason|caconnected via switch ips are and ubuntu box) firewall on the ubuntu box has been opened to allow samba01:14
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MidnighTokerjason|ca, do me a favor and completely disable the firewall on the ubuntu box01:15
e-vocgood evening everyone01:15
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jason|caMidnighToker: how?01:15
MidnighTokermorning e-voc01:15
shantihi .. s1 please explain to me the difference between LTS-Version and default-ubuntu ? .. tnx01:15
MidnighTokerjason|ca, no idea. how did you configure it?01:16
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Pici!lts | shanti01:16
ubotushanti: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.01:16
jason|cait comes installed -- i configured it with   firestarter01:16
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e-voci'm running a feisty fawn on a laptop. is it worth and okay to update to gutsy already?01:16
joevandykWhat's 'xylap' and why was it absolutely killing my box?01:16
Snuxolle-voc: 3 days, might as well wait01:16
Kudake-voc: wait 3 days for final realise01:16
Picijoevandyk: its a screensaver iirc01:16
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e-vocSnuxoll: ah, till the final?01:17
shantiPici: yes but are there any other features but support ?01:17
MidnighTokerjason|ca, i'll have a look for instructions, but disabling the firewall would be the frist place i would start01:17
Picishanti: nope. LTS = Long Term Support.01:17
e-vocokay, nice. i'll be patient :)01:17
shantiTNX ;-)01:17
jason|caMidnighToker: ok01:17
Snuxolle-voc: Yes, the RC is stable and if you really want you COULD upgrade01:17
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Snuxolle-voc: But the final will have more bugs worked out01:17
Picie-voc: and better support.01:17
e-vocSnuxoll: okay thanks :)01:17
Frogzooe-voc: usually even after release, there's a flurry of updates - best to wait01:18
dudeslight problem here - i can boot fine from livecd, but trying to boot from flash drive installation gives me the dreaded "can't access tty; job control turned off" error. any idea what might be causing that?01:18
PreZLaptopfound it :)01:18
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jason|caMidnighToker: killing the firewall in firestarter had no impact01:19
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jason|casame result01:19
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Kudakanyone knows a good book that teaches all about network related topics such as protocols and so on, i need a book that starts with the very basics and teaches "how things work"01:19
MidnighTokerjason|ca, not sure about on ubuntu but you used to have to create a samba user `smbpasswd -a username` once a system user of that name existed01:20
jason|caMidnighToker: ok - -worth a try01:20
gnomefreakKudak: networking for dummies? atleast i think ive seen that01:20
gnomefreakKudak: dummy books are about as basic as you can get i have 30+ of them01:21
awalton__kudak: Wikipedia is actually a good place to start for that kind of thing01:21
Frogzoodude: for help with "can't acess tty" in Feisty, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588&highlight=tty+job+control.01:21
jason|caMidnighToker: that did it01:21
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MidnighTokerjason|ca, coolio, should have thought about that earlier, sorry01:21
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jason|canp  -thanks man01:21
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Kudakalright thanks guys01:22
ubotuIf you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError01:22
StevieWonderHello all very quick question.  If I install the Gutsy RC will it update to the final version on release day and beyond?01:22
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FrogzooStevieWonder: who knows?01:23
PiciStevieWonder: yes. Further questions in #ubuntu+101:23
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kuruminHello, there!01:24
FluxDHi, I have a problem. I am on Fiesty. When I use to plugin my NTFS formatted external it used to mount read only. But now its not even mounting. Any suggestions?01:24
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StevieWonderThank you both01:24
jthomas_Hi, Where can I find a tutorial on building a LAMP Server from source?01:24
idnzohey, i am getting the following error when trying to upgrade:  files list file for package `mythtv-themes' contains empty filename01:24
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idnzoit wont let me remove the package or anything, or install any new ones, any ideas?01:24
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Picijthomas_: lamp is just linux, apache, mysql, php/perl/python.   Install those from source and tada, you're done.01:25
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Kudakis it usefull to learn Python?? or not used much nowdays ?01:25
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jthomas_Pici: I don't have to combine them to work together?01:26
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Picijthomas_: well you need to make sure that they are configured to work together, but otherwise, no.01:26
jformananyone in here running ubuntu with X on a sparc system? i am having a bit of trouble getting X to fire up01:26
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Picijthomas_: its not one big package.01:26
ianm_Kudak: it is used for app development and also for many ubuntu system utilities and scripts01:26
Kudakianm_: oh i see, thx.01:27
ianm_Kudak: not a bad language.  Ruby is sexier though :D01:27
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jthomas_Pici: I know that, but I am saying if i do them 1 by 1 and they'l l work together01:27
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PreZLaptopmuch better01:27
PreZLaptopgetting almost 2mb/s now ;)01:28
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dudefrogbzoo: that didn't work, froze the system with blinking capslock and numlock lights01:28
PreZLaptophow to turn a 3-4 hour upgrade into a 15 minute one ;)01:28
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, I got it!!!01:28
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musashiComrade-Sergei, o.o which part?01:28
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, the video! this is awesome01:29
musashiah sweet01:29
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, i used "envy" and it did it all for me, i can even run beryl now!01:29
musashiComrade-Sergei, :) grat.  did u solve the sound problem?01:29
minusCompiz Fusion++ Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon++ ;)01:29
knifehatAnyone heard of a problem where ubuntu freezes when booting unless the computer has just been restarted from windows?01:30
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ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:30
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Comrade-Sergeimusashi, not yet, i got to do that and wifi yet then its out with vista!01:30
minusPici, Im not asking for support... Im just here cause I can xD01:30
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dwxreaperi can type sudo su at the terminal and it works, if i am in gnome, and i open gedit, i can't save files because i am not root01:30
Ademanis there any way to execute a *.desktop file from the command line?01:30
musashiComrade-Sergei, lol, i have vista, xp, and ubuntu xD01:30
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dwxreaperhow do i open gedit so i can save files from gnome01:30
Piciminus: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat01:31
musashiComrade-Sergei, ubuntu was doing some wierd stuff to my wireless card...01:31
xtlosxhey has anyone had any success installing the Release candidate of Gutsy Gibbon on a Macbook Pro?  Last time I tried, it installed, but when I rebooted after install, it wouldn't do anything just a black screen..... any ideas?01:31
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, ive had vista ultimate and i got to say its not that bad01:31
musashiComrade-Sergei, hopefully i fixed it..01:31
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adantehi, i've installed swf-player, what else do i need todo to be able to use flash in firefox?01:31
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Comrade-Sergeimusashi, ive had sooooo many problems with broadcom chips01:31
musashiComrade-Sergei, i cant stand anything that lags for no obvious reason01:31
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=== NexusGS goodnight all
xtlosxanyone... macbook pro, ubuntu?  Anything special that needs to be done?01:32
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dwxreaperi can type sudo su at the terminal and it works, if i am in gnome, and i open gedit, i can't save files because i am not root01:32
dwxreaperhow do i open gedit so i can save files from gnome01:32
Estethadante: i beleive ubuntu-restricted-extras covers that01:32
javbIf boot with ubuntu live CD having Fedora installed, how can mount or see the host file system.01:32
minusPici, the scrolling isn't that fast now.. so...01:32
musashisudo gedit file01:32
javbThe fedora mail files?01:32
drew3 days? w00t01:32
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javbdoes the live CD mount it automatically?01:32
cosmodadanyone else having problems encoding with grip? ripping goes well but grip won't start encoding :(01:32
Piciminus: It was more for the people talking about gutsy anyway.01:32
Piciminus: and just a general reminder.01:33
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musashiComrade-Sergei, my sound works once in a while when i boot01:33
Comrade-Sergeiintel chip musashi ?01:33
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Comrade-Sergeimusashi, amd makes sound cards? must be a laptop or something right?01:34
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musashiComrade-Sergei, yes01:34
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, i wanted the cache so i went intel core 2 duo 2.2 ghz01:35
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musashiComrade-Sergei, heh i dont really do anything hardcore enough for that01:35
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Comrade-Sergeilol musashi ive got 4 gb ram and a nvidia 8600 gs 512 mb video01:35
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musashiComrade-Sergei, rofl /hates you01:36
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Comrade-Sergeimusashi, in a laptop!01:36
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musashiComrade-Sergei, o.O01:36
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, yours only supports up to 2 gb i believe01:36
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KudakComrade-Segei: what for? i told you already u dont need that kind of hardware for porn, u could use cheaper cards01:36
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EstethIs there a way to tell ubuntu to run a script every time a readable usb storage device is plugged in?01:37
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Comrade-SergeiEsteth, something in sessions maybe?01:37
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ChesterHello hello01:37
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mariocesar_boHow can I add a new file extension to a syntax markup on Gedit, like *.thtml to be HTML  ?01:38
ChesterIs there somebody here that could help me?01:38
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TixerI'm trying to install Icecast, but I get an error saying Could Not Parse XSLT file.01:38
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KudakChester: just ask your question, if someone knows he will respond.01:38
EstethComrade-Sergei: Thanks, i'll look at that :)01:38
musashiComrade-Sergei, my wireless card was hanging when i booted ubuntu, and if i restarted in either windows OS, it would be completely gone.01:38
sixdrawanyone know how to put different backgrounds on each side of the cube01:38
ChesterOwke, i installed ubuntu but when i reboot it show grub but cant find unbuntu01:39
Comrade-Sergeimusashi, well lspci -vvv detects it01:39
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musashiComrade-Sergei, do what?01:39
Comrade-Sergeimega verbose!01:39
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Comrade-Sergeimusashi, lspci shows whats on the pci01:39
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javbi need to chroot my original filesystem being on the live CD, any IDEA ? ? ? ?01:40
cdm10javb: what's the problem?01:40
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dwxreaperi can type sudo su at the terminal and it works, if i am in gnome, and i open gedit, i can't save files because i am not root01:40
dwxreaperhow do i open gedit so i can save files from gnome01:40
dwxreaperand now for my user, i can do gedit in terminal and it works01:40
sixdrawanyone know how to put different backgrounds on each side of the cube??01:40
cdm10!repeat | sixdraw01:40
ubotusixdraw: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:40
xtlosxanyone anyone here with a macbook pro?01:40
subgksudo gedit01:40
dwxreaperbut for root it gives me some xlib error, what's the deal with that01:40
xtlosxcome on people01:40
javbcdm10, i want to install LILO, because i cant boot, so, i booted with live CD, but how can i chroot my installed system?01:41
ihopejavb: sudo chroot /whatever, I imagine.01:41
Comrade-Sergeigotta reboot brb01:41
n3ow_jaycould some one tell me how you install programs in ubuntu i wantedt o add the the new xchat but can not figure out the install01:41
TixerAnyone know why I'm getting an XSLT parsing error when I run icecast?01:41
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javbihope "/whaever" is what i DONT know.01:41
musashidwxreaper, are you trying to edit a file as root to save it?01:41
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TixerN30w_jay: "sudo apt-get install xchat"01:41
cdm10javb: sudo chroot /media/whatever?01:41
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cafuegofirst, bind mount /proc01:41
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cdm10javb: find what your normal disk is mounted under and put it after chroot01:41
dwxreapermusashi: i'm trying to save a file, i can only save it as root, but when i do sudo su in terminal then gedit it gives me the xlib errors01:41
n3ow_jaywhat is the sudo?01:41
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ihopejavb: the command mount will give a list of filesystems mounted; look for something like /dev/hda1.01:42
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:42
cdm10dwxreaper: you're supposed to use gksudo, not sudo, with gui apps.01:42
javbcdm10: Mmmm, /media i have nothing, either /mnt// how can i find what my normal disk is mounted.01:42
cdm10javb: go to Places>Computer and see what you've got01:42
musashidwxreaper, try "sudo gedit file"01:42
gnomefreakmusashi: gksudo gedit01:42
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musashior that01:42
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ChesterInstallled ubuntu using live cd. I've got 3 drives in my pc. And 1 Os wich is Ubuntu. This 1 is located on dev/sdb. But when i reboot it shows GRUB but when i select ubuntu kernel. It somehow cant locate ubuntu. What am i doing wrong?01:43
javbcdm10: dont have graphical. my monitor is not supporting the resolution ubuntu is sending01:43
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kiruwhy is it in the U.S. just 6:45pm01:43
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kirufuck usa01:43
Pici!ohmy | kiru01:43
ubotukiru: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.01:43
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gnomefreaksirry LjL  ill go to bed now ;)01:43
ihopejavb: use the mount command, then.01:44
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Chesterno1? :(01:44
Kewlbgor a problem.. been using ubuntu for awhile.. had it on a laptop -- everything working great, decided to try some new stuff.. installed mandriva -- user inferace much better than ubuntu -- repository sucks, so I decided to try kbuntu and installed 7.1001:44
Kewlbnothing works01:44
Kewlbas far as the network goes01:44
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LjLgnomefreak: too many trolls, too little time, uh :)01:44
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Kewlbno other distro I tried over the past few days (ubuntu, edubuntu, mandriva, centos, SuSE Enterprise) had a single problem01:44
Kewlbkbuntu for some reason -- no matter what I do it will not bring up my wireless network card01:45
musashiKewlb,  what kind of card01:45
KewlbIntel PRO/Wireless01:45
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Kewlbworked in every other linux distro01:45
ChesterInstallled ubuntu using live cd. I've got 3 drives in my pc. And 1 Os wich is Ubuntu. This 1 is located on dev/sdb. But when i reboot it shows GRUB but when i select ubuntu kernel. It somehow cant locate ubuntu. What am i doing wrong?01:45
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnomefreak - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:46
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about douche - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:46
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Retr0RobHello all01:47
Kewlbany ideas on kbuntu and the network card and why it would work out of the box in ubuntu/mandriva/centos but not in kbuntu?01:47
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pohhow can I reinstall an app without removing it first?01:48
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pohI forgot to ask google01:48
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johnny_i removed this package so i could reinstall it, but now it doesn't take the other deps into account when reinstalling01:49
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Elhola algun espaol01:49
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cdm10!es | El01:49
ubotuEl: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:49
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IdleOnejohnny_: did it remove the deps also when you uninstalled?01:49
musashiwhat is this beryl everyone talks about01:49
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Elalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos01:50
johnny_it told me to use autoremove01:50
Elalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos01:50
Elalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos01:50
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cdm10musashi: look it up on Google Video01:50
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cdm10Can someone kick him or something?01:50
musashicdm10, k lol01:50
johnny_no ayuda in espanol aqui01:50
cdm10!es > El01:50
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IdleOneEl: escribes /join #ubuntu-es por favor01:50
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects01:50
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cdm10heh, ubotu's slow today.01:50
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johnny_err en .. oops01:51
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youknowmeI have two systems connected with a cat-5 crossover cable, and when I try to use vncviewer to connect to the other I get:01:51
youknowmeCouldn't convert 'joe-desktop' to host address01:51
youknowmeUnable to connect to VNC server01:51
johnny_oh oops.. turns out autoremove actually didn't do it 's job01:51
boselecta alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos01:51
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johnny_even though i said yes01:51
IdleOne!es | boselecta01:51
ubotuboselecta: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:51
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johnny_ok.. now , this package when reinstalled, is not regenerating an ssl cert01:52
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musashiwth that is hardcore01:52
n3ow_jayis there a upgrade from 5.04 to a newer ver ?01:52
boselectaapparently that means "Because someone can help me is that I have to reboot your pc every time"01:52
mrjyouknowme, do they both have ips or did you unplug one from your router, leave it set to DHCP, and expect it to magically suck an IP address through the second computer?01:52
Elalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos01:52
IdleOne!upgrade | n3ow_jay01:52
ubotun3ow_jay: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:52
Elalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos01:52
Elalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratosalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratosalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos01:52
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cdm10n3ow_jay: you'll have to upgrade 4 times to get to the latest version.01:52
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cdm10n3ow_jay: 3 actually.01:53
IdleOne!ops | el01:53
ubotuel: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici01:53
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youknowmemrj: they are both set to dhcp, what would I change it to?01:53
musashiwow im afraid if i downloaded that i would break my pc01:53
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XDataAnd I will execute great vengeance upon them with wrathful rebukes; and they shall know that I am Jehovah, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.01:54
IdleOnemusashi: if you want to know more about beryl and compiz join #ubuntu-effects or #beryl or #compiz those 3 channels can asnwer you better01:54
Tm_TLjL: wakey01:54
Pici!o4o > XData01:54
musashiIdleOne, i was just wondering the requirements, really01:55
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mrjyouknowme, hows the 2nd computer going to get an IP address if its only directly connected to the first?01:55
youknowmemrj, I didn't think of that, so.. how would I set it up?01:55
IdleOnemusashi: again they can answer you better01:55
mrjyouknowme, you'd give it a static IP01:55
Retr0Robmusashi, as far as processor or 3d capabilities?01:55
MidnighTokermusashi, make sure you can use opegl on your graphics card, other than that give it a go. there are that many options, even on an old box (1gb duron, gforce4) its usuable and some of the lighter things are nice01:55
youknowmemrj, just one?01:56
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n3ow_jayok maybe an easier question  how do you add a server to x chat server list01:56
mrjyouknowme, both might help if they're going to communicat back and forth01:56
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node357go into the server list and hit Add01:56
boselectan3ow_jay: through preferences01:56
dwezelHello all.  Is there a channel to talk specifically about Gutsy?01:56
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Picidwezel: #ubuntu+101:57
dwezelThank you01:57
musashiRetr0Rob, both :x01:57
musashiill jjust google it01:57
IdleOnen3ow_jay: click on Xchat and then network List then click Add Server or edit or something like that. #xchat is a good place to ask01:57
trogdorstill no luck getting direct rendering going with this intel card. Its i810 driver I think and its taking half my system memory :/01:57
musashithanks guys01:57
boselectaIRC -> Preferences -> Networks01:57
youknowmemrj, so would it be something like01:57
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mrjit'd be whatever private address under the same subnet you wanted it to be01:57
boselectasorry that's Edit -> Preferences -> Networks01:57
mrjthats like day 1 tcpip01:57
Retr0RobI find generally if you do a glxinfo |grep direct01:57
zonylHow can I specify runlevel on Feisty?    I changed the kernel command line in grub to have a '3' at the end, however, upstart doesnt appear to acknowledge it and still loads runlevel 2.01:57
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XDataWhat's your problem pici ? rOOb, believe in him and you will be in peace !01:58
Retr0Roband it said direct rendering: yes01:58
youknowmemrj, sorry, I'm not sure I understand01:58
mrj192.168.1.1 /24 and /24 ( works01:58
MidnighTokeryouknowme, with a subnet mask of it should be 192.168.0.x (x being the machine number)01:58
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Retr0Robyou are generally OK01:58
musashiRetr0Rob, well thats great mine says no rofl01:58
johnny_it's still not reinstalling files it installed when this package was first installed01:58
FluxDHi, my external drive is not automounting. Any suggestions as to what could be wrong?01:58
musashiRetr0Rob, thanks for helping though01:58
Retr0Robthat's about my luck01:58
johnny_i deleted them on purpose because i assumed they would automatically come back on reinstall01:59
XDataGod is prosperity and power !01:59
johnny_and yet.. they do not01:59
johnny_shut up Xares_01:59
boselectais XData some kind of JW bot?01:59
musashii have a opengl renderer string though01:59
johnny_shut up XData ..01:59
Retr0Robif you are using nvidia or ATI, you may want to use the restricted drivers01:59
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Odd-rationaleFluxD: What format is it? NTFS?01:59
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MidnighTokerjohnny apt-get --deep <packagename> or something like that, hang on01:59
musashii am using nvidia lol01:59
GreevousI've been having lots of problems with Compiz in gutsy; are these guaranteed to be fixed by Thursday's release?01:59
FluxDOdd-rationale: yea01:59
IdleOne!offtopic | XData01:59
ubotuXData: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:59
Odd-rationaleFluxD: Are you using feisty?01:59
PiciGreevous: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support/discussion.01:59
XDatajohnny, shut the fuck up01:59
Tech-Mikesup peeps, is there an app that will open/close cd drives - so i dont have to press the button (and also so i dont have to press on the tray) got one of those front panels that doesnt allow u to close drive with button01:59
XDatai am not your friend01:59
Seeker`!ops | XData01:59
FluxDOdd-rationale: yep01:59
ubotuXData: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici02:00
johnny_everybody wants you to shut up02:00
Retr0RobWell, Ive done a few of them and never got it working unless I have direct rendering enabled.02:00
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IdleOneXData: as a matter a fact Religion is o4o in all ubuntu channels so please stop or you will be banned02:00
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MidnighTokerjohnny apt-get build-dep <package>  -i think02:00
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XDatanon mais genre ubotu, t'es con ou quoi ? saloperie de malade mental02:00
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boselectaok so not a bot then02:00
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KidManHow do I fix the Error 15 message for grub?02:00
johnny_watch my language .. i didn't say anything bad02:00
Odd-rationaleFluxD: Then you need to install ntfs-g3. Just go the Add/Remove programs and search for "ntfs"02:00
boselectaoh well.02:00
naliothjohnny_: sorry about that02:00
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Retr0RobThere is  (was?) an option in beryl to use the other renderer, but I just got lockups from it.02:01
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LjLjohnny_: yeah i gave you the wrong kick message.02:01
Odd-rationaleOr use "Synaptic"02:01
FluxDOdd-rationale: but it used to automount even if it was read only02:01
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johnny_so.. build dep .. that doesn't sound like what i want?02:01
flushim having an incredible issue with alsa02:01
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flushi cant get my damn freakin mixer to work properly anymore for -no apparent reason-02:02
musashiRetr0Rob, by enabled you mean i can enable it?02:02
johnny_build-dep has to do with source packages02:02
johnny_ not configure package options02:02
flushPCM in alsamixer has no effects at all anymore, when i try to use alsactl to restore the mixer settings (cause i got soundblaster live 5.1)02:02
Picijohnny_: build-dep installs the dependent packages you would need if you were compiling from source.02:02
flushit says     alsactl: set_control:995: failed to obtain info for control #7 (Operation not permitted)02:02
Retr0RobYes, depending on the card.02:02
flushwhat gives?02:02
johnny_it's not the packages i need02:02
musashiRetr0Rob, hmmm i bet ill ask how to do that next....02:02
IdleOne!enter | flush02:02
ubotuflush: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:02
johnny_but the configure options.. not ./configure options02:02
musashiRetr0Rob, how do you do that?02:02
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johnny_the packages are installed02:03
flushbut got any idea.. im damn bored of this02:03
johnny_but the options to generate things like ssl certs, and adding config files happen  is what i need02:03
Retr0Robdepends on the card.. do you know what brand?02:03
IdleOnejohnny_: dpkg-reconfigure package02:03
Odd-rationaleFluxD: Did you try going to System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media and see if auto-mount is enabled?02:03
zonylanyone know anything about why feisty upstart not using kernel runlevel parameter?02:03
johnny_aha IdleOne that sounds more correct02:03
musashiRetr0Rob, is there a command i can use to find that, i thought it was nvidia02:03
johnny_i rarely have to do much with apt other than install and upgrade, since i'm mainly a gentoo user, but at our store we use all ubuntu02:03
IdleOnejohnny_: I am not certain what package you are talking about though02:04
youknowmemidnightoker, wow I'm still having a lot of trouble.02:04
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Retr0Robyep... hold on, I used to know it off the top of my head.02:04
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FluxDOdd-rationale: it was automounting fine until I installed ntfs-3g but apparently after that it would never automount so I uninstalled it and after that its always like this02:04
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johnny_that didn't do it IdleOne  it just tried to restart the server02:04
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johnny_ which can't run without a cert and default config files02:04
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MidnighTokeryouknowme: whats going on? what did you do? deleted some necicary files?02:05
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ban-evaderHA HA HA :) j/k02:05
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IdleOneso johnny_ you need a place to add the config files?02:05
Odd-rationaleFluxD: ntfs-3g is considered rather buggy in fiesty. However, it has been fixed in Gusty.02:05
leg1p.snt msg 2 wrng site.wheels dodgy bros diff ole fella same e/ml not right tlk sn02:05
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FluxDOdd-rationale: it was working fine for me in edgy02:05
youknowm1midnightoke, no, unplugged my router to plug in the crosover cable to try again02:05
johnny_on a fresh install, it did actions like add config files, and generate a cert,  i deleted the config files because i modified them, and then expected apt to regenerate them on install  so i could get fresh ones02:05
IdleOnejohnny_: locate flumotion should tell you where the app is installed02:05
johnny_but that is not happening02:06
FluxDOdd-rationale: any other way so it can automount on plugin ?02:06
youknowm1midnightoker, I still can't figure this out02:06
johnny_i know where it is installed for sure, they just aren't there after reinstalling the package02:06
MidnighTokeryouknowm1, cant figure what out? i have no idea what you're doing02:06
Retr0RobOK, your gonna love this: I found a youtube vid for it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W2GL9mpsn402:06
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MidnighTokeryouknowm1, sorry about this man, i'm in the middle of trying to get LVM working on another box. happy to help, just let me know again whats going on.02:07
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IdleOnejohnny_: you dont happen to have bakups do you?02:07
Odd-rationaleFluxD: Not that I can think of. But I'm not a guru. So I'm very sorry I couldn't help you much. :(02:07
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johnny_no.. this box was just installed lastnight02:07
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FluxDOdd-rationale: np but ty for the help02:07
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kanjohi there, which POP3 server you guys recommend me to implement on Ubuntu?02:08
johnny_if i have to reinstall my entire system for 1 bad non system related package, i will be annoyed, that is a severe deficiency of apt if that is the case, and i doubt that it is so02:08
Col^Hey everyone02:08
musashiRetr0Rob, maybe ill just try to install it anyway02:08
IdleOnejohnny_: sodu apt-get purge -remove flumotion & sudo apt-get install flumotion02:08
johnny_brb, please address all responses by by name02:08
musashiRetr0Rob, would it break anything >_>?02:08
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Flanneljohnny_: You need to remove with --purge (or 'completely remove' in synaptic) to reinstall config files.02:09
Col^Does anyone know how to get my games in wine executed with proper opengl?02:09
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Retr0Robwell, if you use the restricted drivers app, it won't let you mess up.02:09
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Retr0Robif you use synaptic or automatix it could be bad.02:09
musashiRetr0Rob, i hate to ask, but could you explain ._.?02:09
youknowm1midnightoker, ok, what I mainly want to do is use vncviewer. If I connect the two computers (one running 6.10 the other 7.04) with the cat-5 crossover cable, and set both computers to dhcp. then they say they are connected. I never tried to ping one or the other (shoudl have) though. Then I get told I need to have them set with static IPs, this is where I am lost as to what to make the IPs.02:09
johnny_there we go Flannel !02:09
johnny_thank you02:09
Retr0Robyou can make a copy of your xorg.conf file02:10
FlannelRetr0Rob: Synaptic isn't bad.  Automatix is.02:10
Retr0Roband it will save you if the install goes to heck02:10
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MidnighTokeryouknowm1, unless you have a dhcp server on one of the boxes, when they are conencted together there is a good chance it wont work. what are the IP addresses when they are connected to each other?02:10
Col^Retr0Rob, i am, however, in NFS Carbon it seems as if i run with a dx8 gfx or something... I'm missing different video options and so on.02:10
musashidarn what is the path to xorg.conf again02:10
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youknowm1midnightoker, again, I am lost.02:11
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musashiRetr0Rob, copy made, here goes nothing.02:11
MidnighTokeryouknowm1, you have the two computers connected together with a crossover cable. you have them both set to get IP addresses from the DHCP server -which is your router, which they are not connected to any more02:11
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Retr0RobOK, if x crashes after, rm the new xorg and cp the old one02:12
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musashiRetr0Rob, actually i have to figure out how to install first :>02:12
youknowm1midnightoker, ok, I understand that now. but whats the next step?02:12
musashiRetr0Rob, brb02:12
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MidnighTokeryouknowm1, what IP address does each computer have?02:13
zonylcol: did you setup in wineconfig?02:13
MidnighTokerHow do I set up SSH service on my Ubuntu box? searching for ssh and nothing in default repository?02:13
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gregoroviusanybody knows of a good GUI or tool to rip DVDs to x264?02:13
IdleOne!ssh | MidnighToker02:13
ubotuMidnighToker: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/02:13
riotkittieMidnighToker: install openssh-server  [i believe that is the pkg name] 02:13
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MidnighTokergregorovius, DVD::RIP02:13
e-vocgood nite02:13
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gregoroviusMidnighToker, I think it doesn't support that format02:14
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youknowm1mdnightoker, ifconfig tells me this for eth002:14
youknowm1 inet addr:  Bcast:  Mask:
musashiRetr0Rob, if i install the newest nvidia drivers, will it mess up my other operating systems :s?02:14
MidnighTokerriotkittie, thanks man. cant believe i have VNC and no ssh :)02:14
Retr0Robonly effects ubuntu02:14
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MidnighTokeryouknowm1, and the other box?02:14
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youknowm1mdnightoker, 1 sec02:15
Retr0Robif you get a freeze shut down02:15
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zengenWhen I run apt-get I get a ton of errors from scrollkeeper.  They're all formatting errors (no end of tag, tag mismatch...).  I found something similar on the forum: sudo scrollkeeper-rebuilddb.  Will that work for my problem?02:15
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musashiRetr0Rob, i found a perfect howto, someone installing beryl on feisty with nvidia drivers lol02:15
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IdleOne!br | duarte02:16
ubotuduarte: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.02:16
Retr0Robif you just need the wobbly windows and cube02:16
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ianm_"need wobbly windows" heh02:16
musashiRetr0Rob, i like the cube thing02:16
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Retr0Robgo to system-prefs-desktop effects02:17
ianm_Retr0Rob: I think that might be an oxymoron...02:17
Retr0Roband enable.02:17
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Col^could i use nvidia-glx-new drivers for my 6600, with better effect than with the restricted drivers?02:17
musashilol sec gotta activate new graphics driver02:17
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MidnighTokeryouknowm1, they both need to be on the same network, so they both need to start with the same 192.168.1.x  -with the x being different on each box02:17
cafuegoCol^: Those *are* the restricted drivers.02:17
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Retr0Robcross fingers02:18
Col^cafuego, ah ok02:18
cafuegoCol^: they're the userspace part that plugs into X.02:18
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Col^omg lingo i can't understand :) Userspace part?02:18
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youknowm1mdnightoker, they aren't on the same network atm02:18
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Seeker`Col^: IT isn't hooked directly into the kernel, so it doesn't violate the license stuff afaik02:19
youknowm1mdnightoker, do they need to be for me to figure this out02:19
MidnighTokeryouknowm1, you told me they were connected together with a crossover cable. that is the same network. have you changed that?02:19
Col^ok Seeker`02:19
MidnighTokerand please spell my name correctly, so it highlights in channel and i can see you're talking02:19
davemlinux1Is it safe to install the ubuntu-7.10-rc, and then make a apt-get dist-upgrade on the day of release?02:19
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Seeker`davemlinux1: it is relatively stable now02:19
Seeker`davemlinux1: there shouldn't be (m)any changes, unless a huge bug is discovered02:20
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davemlinux1By synaptic or aptitude02:20
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youknowm1mdnightoker: the second computer and this computer I'm on are one in the same. I'm short one cat-5 cable to connect both computers to the router.02:20
mrjyouknowm1, set the gateway to be the opposite computer, if you're on and the other computers IP is, set the gateway on 2.1 to 2.202:20
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mrjWhy are you using a crossover and not a router?02:21
musashiRetr0Rob, wooo i got direct rendering = yes now ;)02:21
RB2I just installed 7.10 RC yesterday and it's been 100% stable for me.02:21
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Retr0Robgood work02:21
davemlinux1How do i have to configure my sources?02:21
mrjThis channel has too many q/p/j messages it makes me want to stab myself02:21
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musashihmmm warning...02:21
Seeker`mrj: you can probably turn them off in your client02:21
mrjSeeker`, then I'd not see them globally, though02:21
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Retr0Robwhats the warning?02:22
youknowm1mrj, I have to many port forwarding problems with my router. I got sick of it.02:22
Seeker`mrj: thats a choice you have to wmake02:22
davemlinux1What do i need to change when becomes stable02:22
RB2Quick Question... in the terminal window, how do I send a function Key? (using ssh in the terminal window)02:22
musashirofl so what is beryl for then?02:22
mrjSeeker`, no way, really?02:22
duartekiba-dock for ubuntu 7.002:22
musashiit said warning this is experimental02:22
musashior w/e02:22
duartedo you know?02:22
MidnighTokeryouknowm1, i dont understand how you have them connected together  -and please spell my name correctly, pm me or give up.02:22
davemlinux1In etc/apt/sources.list ?02:23
Retr0Robwell, It gives you the pretty windows,02:23
Seeker`duarte: what do you want to know about 7.10?02:23
Retr0Robwhoo hoo!02:23
musashiRetr0Rob, so what else does beryl do that makes it worth downloading? the 3d backround thing while rotating cube?02:23
Wolf23some body help please!! An error occured The playback of this movie requires a video/x-avi-unknown decoder plugin which is not installed.02:23
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musashiRetr0Rob,  and uh how to i move the cube >_>02:24
LjL!codecs > Wolf23    (Wolf23, see the private message from Ubotu)02:24
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mrjmusashi, it's a complete change of how actions/windows are handled02:24
mrjWobbly windows, other various effects02:24
mrjYou either want it or you dont02:24
mrjWe can't tell you to get it or not02:24
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abatshyhi every 102:24
Retr0Robwell, it has some nice window management stuff, but honestly the Compiz install that's built in to 7.04 is fine for me.02:24
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_ebirtaidwhat would be a possible explanation for the fact that under pclinuxos I can detect and connect to wireless networks with ndiswrapper and a windows driver but under ubuntu, using the same driver, I can not detect any networks even though the driver is working?02:24
Retr0RobIt gives the wobblies, the cube and transparancy02:24
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caravenaHello, problem with mi lapto. I upgrade to feisty to Gutsy, and not work fine the keyboard.02:25
caravena Howto detect the package with problem?02:25
caravena* of02:25
mrjWobbles + panel wall is great02:25
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Davy_Joneswhat does the evms process do?  it says enterprise volume management system.. what does that mean and is this process necessary?02:25
mrjBut I'm also on a heavy duty system02:25
FaltzerI need help with package management, allot of things corrupt after I upgrade using the upgrade manager.02:25
youknowm1midnightoker, two computers, I'm short one cable so they both can't be connected to the router at the same time for I need a third cable to connect the router to the modem. I CAN connect them with the crossover cable but they are not at the moment, I would need to disconnect myself from the net.02:25
boselectacaravena: ask in #ubuntu+102:25
Retr0RobBTW, 7.10 has copiz fusion enabled by default. supposed to be really pretty.02:25
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caravenaboselecta: Ok, thanks.02:26
Retr0Robmrj are you on 7.10?02:26
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dispositionanyone here a math/chemistry major that knows how to make trendline equations in gnumeric02:26
mrjI'm in XP right now, though02:26
Davy_Joneswhy is it not right to say 7.1?02:26
musashiRetr0Rob, so i can do the cool cube thing or is that only beryl where u move it around and stuff02:26
Retr0Robis it stabile?02:26
MidnighTokeryouknowm1, ok, so if you disconnect the internet, and have both computers connected into the router (in the LAN ports) can the two computers ping each other?02:26
Seeker`youknowm1: So you have 2 patch cables and 1 crossover?02:26
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riotkittie_ebirtaid: did you grab ndiswrapper from the repos? i've heard some people have better luck compiling from source02:26
riotkittieDavy_Jones: because 1 = january.02:26
MidnighTokeryouknowm1, is the modem/router connected with a crossover cable or patch?02:26
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Seeker`Davy_Jones: it is 7.10 because it will be released in the 10th month of 200702:26
dispositionthis is really urgent. i'm working on a lab report due for tomorrow and gnumeric is NOT graphing a remotely correct trendline02:26
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_ebirtaidI've not tried compiling from source, it could be worth a try02:27
mrjRetr0Rob, It's stable, I have issues here and there but I can fix them. I wouldn't use it as a production OS due to the constant updates coming out02:27
riotkittieDavy_Jones: x.x is year.month02:27
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Retr0Robmusashi, yep you can move the cube thing. I show it to my Vista buddies. It drives um nuts!02:27
_ebirtaidit's odd that there would just be no scan results though02:27
musashiRetr0Rob, k how do i do that02:27
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Davy_Jonesso the first ubuntu was released in 2001?02:27
youknowm1seeker: yes02:27
Retr0Robdo you have desktop effects enabled?02:27
bruenigDavy_Jones, no02:27
dispositionthis is really urgent. i'm working on a lab report due for tomorrow and gnumeric is NOT graphing a remotely correct trendline. i keep setting the low bound for the lowest X value and the high bound as the highest X value, but the graph still forces the intercept to be zero.02:27
disposition2004, october02:28
youknowm1midnightoker, patch02:28
musashiyes i got da windows and workspaces on a cube02:28
RB2disposition: Did you try #gnumeric on irc.gnome.org ?02:28
dispositionno, i will try that. thank you.02:28
urbanhghey can anyone give me a hand im new to ubuntu and im trying to load music on to my ipod with rhythmbox02:28
Seeker`youknowm1: dont some routers allow you to use crossover cables instead of patch cables, and do some clever electronic stuff to fix it?02:28
anolisim kinda upset with the new compiz-fusion settings manager, mainly because i don't know how to get my happy fire animations on windows minimize/maximize02:28
Retr0Robdo a ctrl-alt and the right arrow key02:28
MidnighTokeryouknowm1, so if you want both computers connected to the router, you have to disconnect the internet, right?02:28
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mrjSeeker`, It's called MDIX and it has to be on the NICs02:28
Davy_Jonesanolis: as in either #compiz-fusion or #ubuntu-effects02:28
youknowm1midnightoker, yes02:28
musashinothing happened lol02:28
Retr0Robthen if you ctrl-alt and right mouse you can control it by mouse02:28
RB2The only problem I've had is getting 4 sides to my cube even after I reduce down to 1 workspace.02:29
getnthevan4candyI still can't get my wireless to work.02:29
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riotkittieanolis: i can only speak of the one in gutsy but its animations > fourth tab in there02:29
mrjThat's because you're from /b/02:29
dispositionanyone know what the best trendline program is for linux?02:29
youknowm1seeker, I'm not sure02:29
dispositionor spreadsheet program?02:29
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youknowm1seeker, I could try02:29
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Seeker`youknowm1: have you tried it?02:29
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Seeker`!ops | abatshy02:29
ubotuabatshy: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici02:29
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Retr0RobI have had to log out and in again after enabling the cube.02:29
jeffreyfLinksys Broadcom driver?02:30
Odd-rationaledisposition: Try OpenOffice Calc02:30
MidnighTokeryouknowm1, ok, so assuming they are both connected to the router, they should both have an IP address that starts with the same first three sections the same (xxx.xxx.xxx.different) -and they should be able to ping each other02:30
Retr0Robthe windows wobble right?02:30
musashiah ok02:30
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dispositionit doesn't enter trendline equations02:30
LjLwhat the chanserv02:30
urbanhgdo any of you fine folks know how to get an ipod to work with rhythmbox02:30
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mrjwell, at least the girl booted him out, so that wasn't completely in vain for him02:30
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youknowm1seeker, no, I will right now02:30
smultronurbanhg: do you have the plugin enabled in rhythmbox?02:30
youknowm1midnightoker, yes, I'll try that right now, brb02:30
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urbanhgsomehow i deleted all of my music from the pod...02:31
Seeker`youknowm1: make the crossover connection between one of the computers and the router02:31
wilberfanWindows and Ubuntu don't set the system clock the same way, do they?02:31
urbanhgand when i try to add more music i get an error sayind device full02:31
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bad_cablesi forgot my password for my user and root02:31
magic_ninjadoes anyone know the mozilla gecko package name02:31
bad_cablesbut i am logged in now02:31
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MidnighTokerSeeker`, i dont think there is a crossover cable in play, just confusion02:31
wilberfanIf I change the system time in Windows, the next time I boot into Ubuntu it says the partitions were mounted in the future...02:31
eboyjrHow do I find out the path of the Ubuntu Desktop Wallpaper? and... when is Ubuntu Gutsy or Gusty coming?02:31
smultronurbanhg: hm. sorry. i'm not sure02:31
wilberfanIs there any way to get them to play nice?02:31
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bad_cablesanyone know how to get your own passwd?02:32
Seeker`MidnighToker: I got the impression that there were 2 patch and 1 xover, and he just didn't know waht to do02:32
Davy_Joneseboyjr: go to ubuntu.com to find out when gutsy will be out02:32
urbanhghaha and this time i just tried it and rbox... just simply closed on me lol02:32
Tm_Tcafuego: did you?02:32
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FaltzerCan I please get help on the Ubuntu Package Manager?02:32
Odd-rationaleeboyjr: /usr/share/backgrounds02:32
MidnighTokerwilberfan, thats cos windows sets the computers local time into the bios, you need to tell ubuntu your system clock is actually local not GMT02:32
bad_cablesplease tell me before the power goes out02:32
FaltzerI'm using Feisty Fawn, 7.0402:32
RB2bad_cables: open a terminal window and type: passwd02:32
Wolf23LjL: thanx but i have installed all packages, the onlyone that is to open that file that i have paste here02:32
MidnighTokernot sure how to set on ubuntu02:32
eboyjrOdd-rationale, awesome, thanks02:32
wilberfanMidnighToker, oh, cool...  do you remember how to do that??02:32
cafuegoTm_T: sry, typing with one hnd02:32
bad_cablesyeah passwd... you know what it is>02:32
KidManWhat does "Error in Service Module" mean? How can I fix it?02:32
MidnighTokerSeeker`, possibly... let him see what happens02:32
Davy_JonesFaltzer: would be better to ask the question than ask if anyone knows02:32
RB2bad_cables: It allows you to reset the password02:33
MidnighTokerwilberfan, i have no idea on ubuntu, i come from a gentoo background, hang on and i'll look02:33
Tm_Tcafuego: there's no laws for handsfree?02:33
wilberfanMidnighToker, I have the "Use UTC" box UN-checked...02:33
bad_cablesRB2: only if you know your oldone02:33
mrjSeeker`, you do realize "patch" is the wrong terminology right?02:33
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Retr0Robhey, got a cure for the "No Cube"02:33
mrjPatch has nothing to do with a cables pin-outs02:33
Flannelbad_cables: You can't get your own password, you can just re-set it to somethign known.02:33
eboyjrDavy_Jones, Thanks, 3 days to go02:33
wilberfanMidnighToker, "Clock preferences"02:33
MidnighTokermrj: Seeker` "straight through..." or X-over02:33
Davy_Joneseboyjr: np02:33
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Seeker`mrj: I've always heard them referred to as crossover or patch02:33
bad_cablesFlannel, how do you reset it...02:34
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Flannelbad_cables: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword02:34
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mrjSeeker`, crossover, straight through, or rolled02:34
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mrjpatch has nothing to do with pin outs02:34
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dispositionwhen it comes to spreadsheets02:34
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mrjpatch = short cable02:34
dispositionlinux loses the battle :P02:34
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mrjjust so we dont confuse each other02:34
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KidManWhat does "Error in Service Module" mean? How can I fix it?02:34
Retr0Robmusashi, check out this on the forum02:35
musashiRetr0Rob, im just gonna get beryl02:35
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RB2Anyone know how I send a function key to the terminal window without Gnome intercepting it?02:35
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Retr0Robnothing bad about Beryl, it's good stuff!02:35
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youknowmeseeker, did not work, crossover can't act as a patch in this case02:36
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FaltzerCan I please get help on the Ubuntu Package Manager?02:36
youknowmemidnightoker: IPs are the same as before when both connected to the samerouter02:36
musashiRetr0Rob, yea that doesnt work02:36
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musashiRetr0Rob, ill try the walkthrough, and thanks again02:37
unagi_someone say my name really quick i need to test something02:37
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unagi_thank you02:37
Retr0Robno problem, you got the hard part handled.02:37
bad_cablesok thanks02:37
FaltzerCan I please get help on the Ubuntu Package Manager, please? I've already reformatted 3 times, and still no success.02:37
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Seeker`Faltzer: What problem are you having?02:38
RB2 Faltzer: What are the symptoms?02:38
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mrjyouknowme, Did you set the gateways like I said?02:38
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FaltzerSeeker` it seems as if my OS Is corrupt somehow.02:39
musashiRetr0Rob, got it to work w/o beryl02:39
Seeker`Faltzer: Any error messages etc?02:39
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youknowmemrj, haven't got that far. still testing IPs and such because apparently they matter greatly02:39
Seeker`Faltzer: We need a better description of what is wrong to actually work out what the problem is02:39
youknowmemrj, hold on I'll try again02:39
dezelinhow do i speed up deluge torrent client?02:39
Retr0Robyeah, I just fixed mine lol, I set mine to 1 desktop02:39
mrjyouknowme, uh.. yeah, they're rather important to the tcp/ip stack. You need to set the gateway to be the opposite computers02:39
Faltzer Seeker`: It's hard to explain, but when I open synaptic it closes automatically.02:40
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GorthaxHello friends02:40
Faltzer Seeker`: And so does add/remove applications02:40
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musashiRetr0Rob, can u make all 6 sides a desktop, or no? just 4?02:40
Seeker`Faltzer: what about if you start them from the command line?02:40
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Faltzer Seeker`: It's like the system is preventing me from doing something to anything having to do with program management02:40
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Gorthaxive been trying to find a resolution to my problem to no avail.  I want to modify my System Panels, including changing the font color.  Could someone point me in the direction....?02:40
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Odd-rationalemusashi: I can have up to 32 :)02:40
Retr0Robhmm. Ive only done 4. 6 would be cool02:40
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musashiOdd-rationale, rofl 32 sided polygon02:41
Faltzer Seeker` I start synaptic via CMD but still closes.02:41
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Faltzer Seeker` if I run apt-get install -f I get a small message02:41
Gorthax<Gnome 2.1802:41
emmajaneGorthax, have you tried the "font preferences" under "system"?02:41
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edubuntuapt-get massage!02:41
Seeker`Faltzer: do you get an error message if you start synaptic from the command line?02:41
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emmajanegorthax: there's a "details" button which appears to contain color options02:41
youknowmemrj, and with the mask set to and the gateway set to 1.2 and 2.1?02:41
Faltzer Seeker`: No... It opens but closes it.02:42
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Seeker`Faltzer: no terminal output at all?02:42
Seeker`Faltzer: And what is the message you get iwht apt-get install -f?02:42
youknowmemrj, gateway set to 2.2 and 2.1.02:42
musashiRetr0Rob,  yea i like this im going to get beryl02:42
mrjyouknowme, yes the gateway is the OTHEr computer02:42
Faltzer Seeker`:  The message for apt-get install -f is 'Segmentation Fault (core dumped)'02:42
edubuntuDoes beryl eat rescources02:43
youknowmemrj, ok brb02:43
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Seeker`Faltzer: you say this has happened 3 times?02:43
Retr0RobIt is nice. btw, looks like I just have 6 sides, no top or bottom.02:43
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FaltzerSeeker`: Yes, and this only happens after running the update manager02:43
musashiRetr0Rob, i have 4 desktops and the top says ubuntu, bottom is blank02:43
Odd-rationalemusashi: I'm using compiz-fusion on Gusty. I don't know how desktops you can have in beryl02:43
Seeker`Faltzer: which version of ubuntu?02:43
emmajaneGorthax: or perhaps in system -> theme02:43
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musashiOdd-rationale, ah ok02:43
FaltzerSeeker`: Feisty Fawn02:44
jeffreyfFeisty Fawn: Driver for Linksys Wireless02:44
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musashiman wobbly windows hurts my eyes02:44
musashiand i already have a headace ><02:44
josheMuy buenas alguien quehables espaol para hacerle una pregunta?02:44
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riotkittie!es | joshe02:45
ubotujoshe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:45
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alpinei cannot get skype to launch upon startup. i added it to the startup menu through Sessions with the command line "skype." it still does not launch upon startup. is that the right command line?02:46
FaltzerSeeker`: In addition, my Ubuntu freezes often. It forces me to restart via without the normal process often.02:46
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FaltzerSeeker`: I have like 384 MB RAM02:46
Seeker`Faltzer: can I see your /etc/apt/sources.list?02:47
Seeker`Faltzer: You should pastebin it02:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:47
diafic_sleep now. night.02:47
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alpineany help with the startup menu please?02:48
Seeker`Faltzer: also, try "sudo aptitude update"02:48
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Gorthaxwhat kind of help alpine?02:48
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Gorthaxoh, just read up02:49
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FaltzerSeeker`: What does the command you specified do?02:49
Seeker`Faltzer: its an alternative to apt-get update02:49
alpinei thought it launches skype.02:49
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alpinei didn't know what to put under command line02:49
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FaltzerSeeker`: I tried it, but I'll paste bin both the output for aptitude and the file you indicated.02:49
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youknowmemrj, ok, the computers can ping each other when connected with the crossover cable but when I try to use vnc I get02:50
youknowmeCouldn't convert 'joe-desktop' to host address02:50
youknowmeUnable to connect to VNC server02:50
alpineGorthax: I am trying to get skype to launch upon startup.02:50
FaltzerSeeker`:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40759/  That's the /etc/apt/sources.list02:51
mneptokFaltzer: and please use apt-get instead of aptitude02:51
vbabiy-Laptopwhat is the motu room02:51
ubotumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU02:51
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Faltzermneptok: Why, though? SOrry for being too curious.02:51
mneptokFaltzer: it is getting more attention and feature improvements vis-a-vis dist-upgrades tahn is aptitude02:51
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FaltzerSeeker`: And this is the aptitude output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40761/02:52
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Seeker`mneptok: I read in a bug report that doing aptitude update solved a similar problem02:52
alpineis there some kind of protocol for how questions are asked and answered? do i have to wait in line?02:52
mrjyouknowme, joe-desktop = an ip address right, and you just changed it to joe-desktop to clean it up or something?02:52
Faltzermneptok: Okay, will apt-get be deprecated in the future?02:52
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mneptokFaltzer: you cannot launch synaptic with sudo02:52
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Seeker`Faltzer: now try running synaptic02:53
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jeffreyfWhere can I find a driver for Linksys Wireless (I think it is Broadcom)02:53
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mrjalpine, no, because us volunteers cant answer every single question, so ask it and we'll try02:53
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mrjyouknowme, you need to enter the ip, not "joes-desktop" if thats what you're doing02:53
alpineI am trying to get skype to launch upon startup.02:53
Faltzermneptok: Neither can I launch it without.02:54
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FaltzerSeeker`: Still not working.02:54
alpineI added it to the startup list under Sessions02:54
Seeker`Faltzer: use gksudo to launch it from the command line02:54
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mneptokFaltzer: any GUI app needs to be invoked with gksudo, not sudo02:54
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Seeker`Faltzer: sorry, i dont know what could be causing it - I need to leave now as I have to be up in 7 hours02:54
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FaltzerSeeker`: Still doesn't work. Okay..02:55
Seeker`Faltzer: good luck02:55
Faltzermneptok: It used to work with sudo though.02:55
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Marsly1Excuse me, but what is "Ubuntu Gutsy"?02:56
Retr0Rob_Ubuntu 7.1002:56
mneptokFaltzer: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:56
noway-Marsly1, its the next version of Ubuntu02:56
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amrhello , how to mute my laptop speakers on pluging in my headphone02:57
Retr0Rob_amr, what kind of computer?02:57
Marsly1So, Gutsy and Gutsy Gibbon are the same?02:57
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Retr0Rob_Some compaq laptops will not turn off.02:58
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Faltzermneptok: *sigh* I think this is once again an OS related problem.02:58
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FaltzerIt returns a Segmentation Fault (core dumped)02:58
Odd-rationaleMarsly1: Yes02:58
iownyouhey can anybody help me with picking a linux distro?02:58
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magic_ninjadoes anyone have experience running steam02:58
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amrRetr0Rob_ : intel hda on fujistu seimens aMILO 150502:59
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Exiliowath is grub error 1702:59
Retr0Rob_OK, it may have the same, but try this....02:59
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Marsly1If anyone would be able to take the time to read this first forum post, and explain to me if the commands can only work in "Gutsty"... I would apreciate it --- Link --- http://luxrender.org/forum/frameset.html02:59
Retr0Rob_double click on the volume icon02:59
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Retr0Rob_find the switches tab and click on it03:00
MidnighTokerduring setup i set 800x600 as max resolution. i've just upgraded the monitor and it wont let me change it to anything higher. help please.03:00
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iStiKsMarsly1: thats an invalid link03:00
Odd-rationaleiownyou: I would go with Ubuntu! But were are some quizes which might help you get started with your own choice: http://polishlinux.org/choose/quiz/  http://www.tuxs.org/chooser/03:00
musashioook that was odd03:00
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Gorthaxmidnight, google for it.  There is a specific answer on the Ubuntu forums03:01
Marsly1iStiKs: oooh, 1 sec03:01
MidnighTokerGorthax, ta03:01
Gorthaxyou need to run the xorg configuration03:01
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Marsly1*Sorry* For huge post :( --- First: This is just really, really great news!!!03:01
Marsly1I just compiled Lux and here is what I had to do:03:01
Marsly1Compiling Lux in Ubuntu Gutsy:03:01
Marsly1sudo apt-get install cvs03:01
Marsly1sudo apt-get install build-essential03:01
Marsly1sudo apt-get install bison03:01
Marsly1sudo apt-get install flex03:01
Marsly1sudo apt-get install libboost-dev03:01
Marsly1sudo apt-get install libfltk1.1-dev03:01
Marsly1sudo apt-get install libboost-thread-dev03:01
Marsly1sudo apt-get install libboost-date-time-dev03:01
Marsly1And then just follow this:03:01
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Marsly1http://www.luxrender.org/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=7003:01
Marsly1Hope this is useful for others.03:01
mrjdude, pastebin03:02
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Marsly1*wince* sorry...03:02
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musashiRetr0Rob, i executed beryl manager and the scren did something but it still has the command running in terminal03:02
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NemesisDwhat would cause an ethernet device to just stop being able to connect to the internet. I am possibly looking in the wrong place but the best clue I have is dmesg saying link is not ready03:04
GorthaxMidnight, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397303:04
Retr0Rob_last time i used beryl I had to choose an xgl session from the login screen03:04
Gorthaxor, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26905203:04
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ae88925NemesisD: do you have a link light?03:05
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Retr0Rob_Last time I had Beryl was in 6.1003:05
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NemesisDae88925, i can check, this is somebody else's computer so I'm kind of doing support over the phone03:06
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NemesisDae88925, anything else i should look for? i tailed /var/log/syslog but the person claimed there was nothing of interest03:06
NemesisDim about to call them right now03:06
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ae88925plug, and unplug the ethernet a few times.  dmesg|grep eth0 <-- assuming "eth0" is correct should show link up, link down.03:07
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bitwiseshiftleftanyone know a good way to get power consumption down on Ubuntu?03:07
NemesisDae88925, i believe it's pci, how would i do that safely?03:07
ae88925If it's a cable modem, router, or DSL router, reset the box.03:07
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ae88925Just unplug the ethernet cable, don't remove the card03:08
NemesisDoh ok03:08
mneptokFaltzer: at what point does it segfault?03:08
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NemesisDae88925, should i need to do ifup/ifdown?03:08
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ae88925possibly, yes.  But verify link first.03:08
mneptokbitwiseshiftleft: which version?03:08
NemesisDok, ill call now03:09
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bitwiseshiftleftmneptok: gutsy03:09
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bitwiseshiftleftmneptok: but it shouldn't matter that much, should it?03:09
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mneptokbitwiseshiftleft: then you already have the new tickless kernel03:09
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mneptokbitwiseshiftleft: and yes, it does.03:09
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bitwiseshiftleftmneptok: actually, i'm on 64-bit, but i have a tickless kernel anyway... i upgraded to 2.6.23-mm103:10
bitwiseshiftleftmneptok: but that only shaves like half a watt03:10
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zengenI'm trying to compile easytag with mp4 support, but it keeps asking for libmp4v2.  I have libmp4v2 and libmp4v2-dev installed.  Is it referring to some other package I need?03:10
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markelhascan some one help me to config dwl-650M rev 2?03:11
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mneptokbitwiseshiftleft: try breaking the srceen off ;)03:11
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bitwiseshiftleftmneptok: this advice is given AS IS, with no warrantee for blah blah03:12
markelhasi've isntalled the ndis and load the windows driver but onli link led is active and can't list the pci card03:12
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mneptokbitwiseshiftleft: thanks for considering that "advice." very generous of you. :)03:12
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jeffreyfAnyone know of LInksys Wireless Drivers?03:12
bitwiseshiftleftmneptok: but basically i'm annoyed that windows has 30% lower power consumption than linux03:12
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ae88925zengen, run ./configure --help.  Try to see if it requires a --with-libmp4v2 argument.  Maybe it's looking somewhere for the lib other than where Ubuntu puts it by default.03:13
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mneptokbitwiseshiftleft: got any daemon processes that aren't 100 % necessary? keep them from waking the kernel.03:13
markelhasany wireless expert aroun?03:14
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mneptokmarkelhas: i am, but you won't like my answer.03:14
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FaltzerHere comes another OS Re-imaging03:14
ae88925disclaimer: I have no knowledge of easytag or libmp4v2, but have had to specify --with-XXX in the past03:14
FaltzerFor the 4th time03:14
markelhasmneptok, why?03:14
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MidnighTokerfor a geforce4 do i want to use the NV or nvidia driver? -wanting 3D support03:15
mneptokmarkelhas: because i'll tell you to buy supported hardware from companies that care about users.03:15
bitwiseshiftleftmneptok: not really?  i mean, i turned off trackerd.  i tried turning off compiz, but that didn't help much03:15
mneptokMidnighToker: nvidia03:15
bitwiseshiftleftand compiz is shiny03:15
markelhasmneptok, yestarday i've managed to put the card working but after a reboot the card don't work any more03:15
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zengenae88925:  ./configure says it's enabled by default.  I found 2 libmp4v2 files in /usr/lib and tried setting the path in ./configure, but it still doesn't work.  If that was even the correct way to try to fix it...03:15
MidnighTokermneptok, thanks03:15
markelhasmneptok, ok :(03:15
SitheraeWhere can I find G++ after I have installed it?03:15
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mneptokmarkelhas: Cardbus?03:16
moppitMidnighToker: Double Check, with the Geforce4 you may want the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers03:16
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markelhasmneptok, pci wirelles03:16
mneptokmarkelhas: standby03:16
ShpookHello everyone03:16
cafuegozengen: the default libmp4v2 in feisty is broken03:16
ae88925zengen:  is ld reporting the error?03:16
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tt_A friend who gives me a shell on his machine recently upgraded to 7.10 and I found VIM was built w/o a default compile-time option I depend on somewhat.  Any idea what's up with that?03:16
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endrahey, when do I select "guided - use entire disk and set up LVM" in the partition area?03:16
zengenae88925:  This is gutsy.  Should I be in +1?03:16
mneptokmarkelhas: you in the US?03:17
SitheraeHow can I execute GNU G++?03:17
ShpookAnyone else have freezing issues with Gutsy, that only seem to happen in Firefox while using the scroll wheel?03:17
zengenerr, caguego03:17
cafuegozengen: Well... maybe :-)03:17
zengenOkay, thanks.03:17
cafuegozengen: is the souce package for it still faad?03:17
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mneptokShpook: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions03:17
markelhasmneptok, just for remark i've test so many thing yestardy that i don't really now want revolve the problem. however i remember that i've used ndis and mad wifi.03:17
MidnighTokermoppit thanks03:17
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Shpookooh, okay, thx03:17
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zengencafuego: I don't know what that means.03:17
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endraAs opposed to not using LVM.. It is an old 6.5GB hdd, 128MB ram 530mhz i586 trying to install XUBUNTU. Question is should I select Guided - use entire disk or use entire disk and set up LVM?03:17
mneptokmarkelhas: what brand and model of card?03:18
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tdo__algum ai03:18
SitheraeHow do I execute the GNU C++ Compiler?03:18
mneptok!es > tdo__03:18
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cafuegoendra: On that setup I wouldn't bother with lvm.03:18
ae88925Sitherae: assuming it's intalled, run 'g++'03:18
Flanneleton: If you've only got one HDD, you wont get much out of LVM03:18
endracafuego: okay, thanks03:18
gerroMasterShrek: fixed my comp up, turns out there was a bios fast boot option for win95 blocking most the system information. Also the extra memory wasnt plugged in right. Still no direct rendering but working on that ^^03:18
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mneptokmarkelhas: hello?03:18
markelhasmneptok, D-link DWL-G650M rev 3.00, and yesterday it reconize has atheros i think.03:19
endracafuego: the reason I ask is because grub was failing to install, not sure if it has to do with it or not.03:19
Sitheraeae88925: What is the shortcut to bring up the run thing?03:19
cafuegoendra: Nah, shouldn't anyway.03:19
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mneptokmarkelhas: that uses a chipset that is as yet unsupported by MadWiFi03:19
mneptokmarkelhas: you in the US?03:20
gerroendra: grub 17?03:20
ae88925Sitherae: Ouch, start reading about Eclipse or gnome-terminal03:20
endragerro: no, it just wouldn't install03:20
endragerro: fails to copy into MBR03:20
markelhasmneptok, nop03:20
Sitheraeae88925: I mean like.. there is a shortcut to bring it up..03:20
gerroendra: odd.. check the pins on your hard drive to see which mode its in perhaps it has protection on the mbr03:20
ae88925GNU C++ is just a command-line compiler, not an IDE03:20
mneptokmarkelhas: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility03:20
markelhasmneptok, so i guess it was the ndis that solve my problem. but now i try the drive and doesn't work03:20
endragerro: it is in a laptop03:20
endragerro: not my laptop at that, so I don't want to open it.03:21
gerroendra: hey it could happen...03:21
Sitheraeae88925: I tried executing it.. Says no input..03:21
FlannelSitherae: alt-f203:21
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tdo__algum fala portugus?03:21
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Flannel!pt | tdo__03:21
ubotutdo__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.03:21
SitheraeFlannel: Ty03:21
tdo__Alguien hablas espanol?03:21
gerroendra: you have a computer you have never opened!? wow thats like saving a christmas present until july03:21
markelhasmneptok, is any form to recover that good config?03:21
Picitdo__: por favor escribe /j #ubuntu-es03:22
endragerro: I have a laptop that I'm fixing for a friend that I have never opened03:22
SitheraeHey. Im trying to burn the Unbuntu iso to a DVD. What is the best software to do so?03:22
ae88925Sitherae: You will need to do one of two things:  1. Use a regular text editor to create your sources and open a terminal to compile   OR   2. Find an IDE (like Eclipse)03:22
gerroendra: cant fix it without opening it :P03:22
Sitheraeae88925: ty03:22
ae88925start with man g++03:22
Flannel!burn | Sitherae03:22
ubotuSitherae: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto03:22
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mneptokmarkelhas: i do not use, support, nor recommend ndiswrapper. sorry.03:23
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markelhasmneptok, hummm dammmm03:23
gerroendra: so what is the story behind this laptop? what you trying to setup?03:23
kuja_How do I install fonts without using ~/.fonts, instead I want to install fonts the way ttf-* packages do.03:23
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endragerro: not windows :P03:24
underwatercowFirestarter uses iptables, doesn't it?03:24
Piciunderwatercow: yes.03:24
gerroendra: what are its specs?03:24
endragerro: it is a very old laptop, 530mhz AMD K6 128MB ram 6.5GB hdd i58603:24
endragerro: My game boy screen is bigger than its monitor03:24
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endragerro: and I can't take a piss without it's battery running out03:24
gerroendra: ah might want to use blackbox then, Im fixing up a comp for my cousin its 500mhz with 128mb ram03:24
endragerro: and I'm trying to install XUBUNTU on it03:24
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gerroendra: yeah it has a panel and you right click to choose programs to run. none of that desktop flash stuff03:25
markelhasmneptok, i've also used a asus wl-107g and this one connect right but when i try to transfer files over home network it takes 2x of my 11mb/s card :(. And the dlink solve that problem. but now i cant put it to work.03:25
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Flannelendra: either way, you're best off getting the alternate CD to install from, if you don't aleady have it03:25
mneptokendra: no full desktop environment (GNOME, KDE, or XFCE) will be very fun on that hardware03:25
gerroendra: I use all of xubuntu xfce apps like taskmanager and thunar. Runs super fast ^^03:25
marko-ubuntuhmm is firestarter safe today, last time i used it it blocket all my traffic after some ours03:26
brueniggerro, task manager?03:26
bqmasseyanyone know any open-source, linux fitness/diet applications?03:26
gerrobruenig: xfce4-taskmanager03:26
endraFlannel: I am using the alternate cd of xubuntu03:26
moppitNo but I have an issue of 2600 that talks about a hacker diet... (It wasn't very good)03:26
mrjbqmassey, even in Windows I used website apps for that03:26
endramneptok: just need a web browser and pidgin for her03:26
mrjbqmassey, fitday.com or something along those lines, i havent used it recently03:27
bruenigoh I just use htop03:27
bqmasseymrj: cool.. i'll check that out03:27
mneptokendra: OpenBox + Dillo03:27
endragerro: wait so I install xubuntu with blackbox instead of xcfe?03:27
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bqmasseymrj: I wish I was better at programming.. i'd make something03:27
gerroendra: also try to optimize firefox for slow computer but fast connection that way it depends more on network than cpu to render pages03:27
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mneptokendra: start with and install the server version. then add OpenBok, Dillo, Pidgin, and whatever else.03:27
endraguys keep in mind this is for someone who knows nothing of linux, so it has to be relatively simple for her to open up browser/pidgin03:28
mrjbqmassey, yeah i mean, i prefer it online anyway, i can check it and modify it whenever. i used to workout/box about 6 months ago and had to put on 35lbs or so03:28
mneptokendra: OpenBox is very familiar to most users03:28
gerroendra: you just apt-get install blackbox then on login choose session then pick the other one. You can also have gnome, kde, etc all on one system.03:28
endramneptok: of xubuntu?03:28
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mneptokendra: start with and install the server version. then add OpenBox, Dillo, Pidgin, and whatever else.03:28
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mneptoki.e DO NOT USE THE XUBUNTU CD03:29
endramneptok: I heard you the first time. Server version of XUBUNTU?03:29
endraso server version of what?03:29
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gerroendra: its even faster if you remove gdm and login then do startx to load graphical system. (like 10mb less memory wasted) If you want fancy login use ascii art03:29
mneptokthere is no server version of Xubuntu03:29
ShpookCan someone tell me what logfile I would check to see why my system freezes?03:29
endraso .. server version of what?03:29
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mneptokthe server version has no GUI by default03:29
bqmasseymrj: box any more?03:29
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gotamaHi! How do I copy all files from /opt/ltsp/i386 to /opt/ltsp/i386_backup without losing a single byte. Help please03:29
Dialntonewhats' the deal with fiesty, and gusty03:29
Dialntonei dont' understand03:30
gerroendra: I just grabbed ubuntu 7.04 server and did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and removed all the desktop environment window managing stuff03:30
endramneptok: either you're not very clear or I'm very slow. Server version of what exactly?03:30
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BlindravenWhy is it that people always refer new people to openbox/fluxbox/sweet.f.a to new users - does it make them feel elitest/hardcore? because its pretty stupid. they are going to see their next.to.nothing desktop have no idea and insert that M$ disc in a flash.03:30
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jdongendra: Ubuntu03:30
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mrjbqmassey, well it was muay thai, but now, I just my job and have been too broke to afford it + the diet, etc. I pretty much lost all my gains after 2 months.03:30
Dialntoneserver version.. ?03:30
jdongendra: there is only a server version of Ubuntu -- it installs a minimal command-line install03:30
ae88925Dial: Fiesty is 7.04 and Gutsy is 7.1003:30
endragerro: ah, well at this instant im installing xubuntu command line, isn't it the same thing/03:30
Dialntonegusty is better :)03:30
mneptokendra: the server version has no GUI. how would the server version of Ubuntu be different from Kubuntu in that case?03:30
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ShpookBlindraven: lol, that happened to me when I first installed linux. I was completely turned off by fluxbox.03:31
bottigersometimes my sound in feisty disapears. restarting alsa-utils doesn't work - what else can you try?03:31
gerroBlindraven: because reason people dislike M$ is because it runs things without them interfacing its best to have a desktop that does nothing without the users thinking of it03:31
jdongendra: yes, you can install a "minimal" mode on all the alternate CD's -- that's equivalent03:31
mneptokendra: instead of asking, go look at your actual download options03:31
endramneptok: I do not know. I've never used ubuntu linux, or xubuntu. This is my first time.03:31
bottigerIt's really annoying to reboot because of that03:31
bottigerNB: I'm running Kubuntu03:31
endramneptok: will you relax a bit. Stop treating me like I know all this crap03:31
jdongendra: mneptok's just saying if that you haven't downloaded anything yet, the server CD is a lot smaller.03:31
gerroBlindraven: looking at things that way every bit of wasted eye candy is adware ^^03:31
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bqmasseymrj: damn. that sucks.03:31
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bqmasseymrj: i've always wanted to try boxing03:31
Blindravengerro, New users dont care to be elitest tards, they just want to get things done and "know" how to do it.03:31
ramza3should I install scsi driver to write cds.  It detected my atapi device.  I am lazy is there an easy way to detect the right driver?03:31
Blindravengerro, then, when they actually know what they are doing - they can make that choice03:32
endrajdong: well, I asked earlier if installing the CLI is the same as installing the server version and all he said was 'go get the server version and install open box and ...'03:32
ShpookI fall into that category03:32
Dialntoneis there a speaker program i can play with for my on board speaker?03:32
jdongramza3: writing CD's should work out of the box.03:32
mrjbqmassey, I f'ing loved it, my instructor was pretty famous and a really awesome guy to train with.03:32
Flannelendra: There's a version on the alternate CD that is a command line installation only.  Theres also a GUI install.  Both of these have a textmode installer.03:32
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mneptokendra: you asked "Server version of Xubuntu?" that doesn't exist. people are helping you for free. do them the courtesy of basic research.03:32
gerroBlindraven: umm guy I was talking to is an elitisttard and fixing lappy for his friend :/03:32
Dialntonei wanna create music with my speaker :)03:32
bqmasseymrj: was it expensive03:32
gerroendra: no offense03:32
mrjno, $100/mo03:32
BlindravenShpook, heh, that sucks dude - your a perfect example :)03:32
ShpookI find gnome with just a few compiz effects and AWN to be perfect for me03:32
ramza3jdong: with xcdroast it mentions you should have a scsi driver03:32
Shpooklol thanks03:32
javbAny ideas on how to get Shockwave player working on firefox / ubuntu ?03:32
Dialntonei wanna create music with my on board speaker03:32
jdongendra: IRC lag -- he was answering a previous question... you're fine installing a minimal from the alternate03:32
Blindravengerro, putting words in other peoples mouths is bad mmkay03:32
Flannelendra: You can simply use the CLI-only install from the Xubuntu alternate CD.  There's absolutely no reason to download the server ISO if you've already got an alternate03:32
underwatercowPici: Aside from using firestarter, how can you disable iptables, or see that it's running?03:32
mrjbqmassey, have to buy gear and stuff, thats another $300 or so.. but that lasts you a long time03:32
NemesisDae88925, ok i just had him grep dmesg, link is down on eth003:32
mneptokjavb: there is no Shockwave for Linux03:32
ae88925javb: Adobe has no shockwave for Linux03:32
javbmneptok, thanks.03:33
jdongramza3: xcdroast is a really old program that may or may not have adapted to the newer 2.6.2x kernels and the updated burning infrastructure03:33
javbae88925: Mmm, ok.03:33
endramneptok: so why is it when I say 'I'm working on xubuntu' and you say 'download server version' then I say 'of xubuntu?' and you say 'don't use xubuntu' and I say 'server version of what then?' and you say 'download server version.'03:33
endramneptok: either way, thanks.03:33
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Kudakguys, i been doing some reading on 'vi' , it seems as an outdated wierd text editor, am i wrong ??03:33
SitheraeIm getting this error: Version 1.4.2 of the JVM is not suitable for this product. Version: 1.5 or greater is required.03:33
endraFlannel, jdong: thank you. I will do that now03:33
ramza3jdong: oh03:33
gerroBlindraven: yeah should learn that03:33
Dialntoneis there a program where i can create music with my on board speaker' for linux ubuntu of course :)03:33
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jdongramza3: brasero, gnomebaker, and the thing built into Nautilus are all good GNOME options. There is also K3b , which is a favorite of GNOME and KDE users alike03:34
endraThanks again for the help everyone, I'm already half way with installing the base system.03:34
ae88925NemesisD: Do you know what the computer is plugged into?  (switch, router, cable-modem, dsl router...)03:34
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ShpookOh yeah, I came here cause I had a problem. My kernel freezes about once every 15 minutes. Mainly when firefox is open and/or using the mouse scroll wheel. Anyone have this problem? And what logs would I check?03:34
ramza3jdong: gnome toster?03:34
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Kudakguys, i been doing some reading on 'vi' , it seems as an outdated wierd text editor, am i wrong ??03:34
jdong!info gnomebaker | ramza303:34
uboturamza3: gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 995 kB, installed size 2972 kB03:34
FlannelKudak: Hardly outdated, or wierd.  but yes, its a text editor.03:34
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jdongKudak: it's a text editor, and a powerful one at that03:35
underwatercowKudak: It's a editor which is usable without X and is installed in some form on nearly all linux distributions, and is very powerful if used correctly03:35
jdongKudak: I use it and prefer it to every other editor out there03:35
SitheraeIm getting this error: Version 1.4.2 of the JVM is not suitable for this product. Version: 1.5 or greater is required.03:35
ae88925Kudak: vi is the best editor ever03:35
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BlindravenI have an AM26000 and 4 gig of ram, the difference for me between using KDE/Gnome with Beryl and every bell+whstile you can think of and absaloutely nothing on Openbox is.. guess what? so minute the decimal difference would have to be somewhere in the .000's - why? because the memory/swap is not used up in any case03:35
fevelill guess nothing is outdated unless it has no users03:35
Blindraventhe only reason I use fluxbox/openbox is when i making my own menus and screwing around03:35
Dialntoneanyone know where i can get a program for linux so i can play music beeps from the speakers :)03:35
mneptokae88925: that's clearly subjective03:35
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feveland ill tell you...vi has a lot of users03:35
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ae88925Kudak: Furthermore, it is installed and available by default on virtually all UNIX flavors.  Learn it and you become powerful.03:36
mneptokKudak: are you trying to use vi?03:36
Blindravenoh, and "posing"03:36
underwatercowKudak: Some like using it for everything, for others, it's only used when a person can't open a normal editor.03:36
sivikok, i just reinstalled ubuntu on this machine and now my speaking are crackling03:36
jdongBlindraven: totally untrue; you still have to factor in CPU overhead of your desktop environment and compositing stack in comparison with Openbox03:36
Blindravenjdong, obviously03:36
Flannelunderwatercow: Theres no reason to use vim as a backup.  Thats why we have nano installed by default.03:36
Shpooksudo apt-get install answer-to-question.please03:36
Blindravenjdong, but for you to say untrue you'd have to of used my system :")03:36
underwatercowFlannel: it's better to know how to use vi as it's more versatile03:37
SitheraeHow do I install Eclipse?03:37
fevelShpook, seems like a hardware problem03:37
Blindravenjdong, my cpu/swap stack remains the same - i even ran nbench on every wm - same thing03:37
jdongBlindraven: I use powerful computers too, and can still feel the difference that a lightweight set of applications use03:37
underwatercowFlannel: besides, nano isn't all that great03:37
tt_Speaking of VI, if ubuntu 7.10 comes compiled w/o one of the default build options, is the only remedy to comple myself?03:37
jdongBlindraven: CPU/Swap are meaningless numbers. How about open up 25 new Firefox windows and see which WM finishes first?03:37
ae88925Sitherae:  Go to www.eclipse.org and download the CDT version.  (hope you have a good Internet connection)03:37
tt_in VIM, that is.03:37
Blindravenjdong, thats called elite imposed placebo getting to your head03:37
Blindravenjdong, joking joking :P03:37
FlannelSitherae: install the 'eclipse' package (its in universe)03:38
underwatercowHow can I tell if iptables is filtering, and how can I turn it off? without using a GUI that is.03:38
marko-ubuntugotama, i use rsync to take backups   rsync -avS /path_from/ /path_to/03:38
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fevelunderwatercow, iptables -F03:38
sivikflannel: what am i missing that is screwing up my sound, it was working before03:38
NemesisDfeh he bailed03:38
mneptokmarko-ubuntu: no --delete ?03:38
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dxdtwhat is the fastest image host to sign up for if I want to post a picture of BinBon's DVD spindle cage?03:38
Flannelunderwatercow: No, it's not.  But for the random time where X breaks and you need to fix it, it's good to have a basic text editor.03:38
NemesisDae88925, we will resume this at a later date :)03:38
fevelunderwatercow, as inflush the rules03:38
dxdtwhoops wrong channel03:38
zcat[1] rsync -r my_files server.somewhere.else:my_backup03:38
Blindravenjdong, I'll agree with one thing - menus FLY on openbox (faster then flux) I mean they are instant no mater what i do. By application load is the same, as is memory and cpu.03:38
jdongmneptok: why use delete on your first backup run?03:38
ae88925Flannel & Sitherae:  Does the Eclipse in the repositories have support for C++?03:38
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Sitheraeae88925: I have it downloaded but how do I install it?03:38
Flannelae88925: You need to install eclipse-cdt, but yes.03:39
Shpookfevel: that's what I was thinking, but it worked fine the previous times I reformatted. Last question: are there any particular logs I could check? I checked all of the logs in /var/log/ and didn't find anything03:39
underwatercowFlannel: that's true, but it's also not installed on a lot of other distros by default03:39
marko-ubuntumneptok: i backup my webfolder wit that.. works nice.. shoud i delete old files ?03:39
mneptokjdong: so you can reuse the command from the shell history.03:39
zcat[1] rsync is nice03:39
sivikoh wait, it wasn't the same, this is a new hd03:39
jdongBlindraven: right -- the window manager's faster at its job...03:39
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FlannelSitherae: don't.  Use the repository version.03:39
siviki mean mobo03:39
jdongmneptok: that works too03:39
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underwatercowfevel: What if I don't want to flush the rules? lol03:39
mneptokmarko-ubuntu: i don't know. should you?03:39
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jdongmneptok: I just can't turst myself not messing up a path in the destination and then all rmrf hell breaking loose03:39
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jdongmneptok: (and that's from several first-hand experiences)03:39
mneptokmarko-ubuntu: but definitely do add --progress --stats03:39
fevelShpook, you can try the system logs on system--->administration03:39
SitheraeFlannel: I've downloaded the Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers, but I dont know how to install it03:39
jdongmarko-ubuntu: add --partial too03:39
zcat[1] I'd realyl like to use cvs or svn for backups... I might set it up sometime.03:39
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marko-ubuntui dont delete anything, just backup changes mneptok03:39
matt1anyone know of a list of ubuntu packages that work on older systems?03:39
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ae88925Sitherae: Just unzip it and run the binary.  You might need to edit eclipse.ini03:39
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mneptokjdong: well, i'm better at rsync syntax, i guess ;)03:40
marko-ubuntujdong: okej, thx03:40
FlannelSitherae: Install the package from the repository.  install the 'eclipse' package and the 'eclipse-cdt' package.03:40
matt1like weechat, htop, raggle, and mutt for example03:40
jdongmneptok: good for you. have a cookie :)03:40
Shpookfevel: okay cool, thanks, it's a starting point. After that, it's back to searching bug reports and google.03:40
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mneptokjdong: can't doesn't pre-exist in the source so i can't put it in the target ;)03:40
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jdongmatt1: well you're just looking for lightweight alternatives to heavyweight programs then, right?03:40
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ShpookYou know, I'll have an orgasm the day HTMLKit releases a Linux version.03:40
Sitheraeae: Works thanks03:40
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Flannelae88925: Please don't recommend people go outside of package management when a perfectly good version is available.  You're only breaking their systems.03:41
AngryElfwhere does ubuntu keep mdadm configuration?03:41
WistesoHTMLKit as in java?03:41
juan11the command iwlist is working, i see my access point, how do i connect to it ??03:41
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mneptokShpook: sudo apt-get install bluefish03:41
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ae88925Flannel: Eclipse is well self-contained.  There is no 'install' so it won't break other components.03:42
underwatercowIs there a way to disable iptables without flushing the rules?03:42
ShpookI use bluefish now, it's a very close second, but in my windows days I fell in love with htmlkit03:42
matt1jdong:  i guess...  I'd like to know what's the best packages for an old Pentium system running a lite ubuntu system (openbox wm)03:42
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persian_xI have a very serious issue concerning Ubuntu, i had high hoped of installing it but nothing seems to be working correctly, can someone help me please?03:42
jdongmatt1: how about thinking of a task, then asking for a lightweight application that performs that task?03:42
Flannelae88925: But it also won't upgrade when he upgrades, or get security patches automatically.03:42
tkoodaanyone know why I still get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" after using `apt-ftparchive` (made Packages{,.bz2,.gz} and Release{,.gpg} files; and have signing key in `apt-key list`) to make a simple apt source?  -it's like it's seeing (and fetching) my gpg, but ignoring it??03:42
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persian_xI have a very serious issue concerning Ubuntu, i had high hopes of installing it but nothing seems to be working correctly, can someone help me please? PM me plz03:43
Flannelpersian_x: you'll have to be more specific than "it doesn't work" for us to be able to provide any advice03:43
matt1jdong: good approach... I'm looking for a gaim replacement for gmail chat, hotmail chat etc)03:43
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juan11how can i connect to an access point ???? i can see my access point already with iwlist scan , i cant connect to it,03:43
Yowsersim looking to build a vmware server with ubuntu as my host OS, if anyone can answer two quick questions for me please PM me thanks!03:43
mneptokpersian_x: did you update?03:43
mneptokmatt1: bitlbee03:44
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Dialntonewhats the command to do a test beep on the computer ?03:44
jdongmatt1: search for 'naim' or another console IM client03:44
jrib!pm | Yowsers03:44
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Dialntoneusing the internal speakers03:44
ubotuYowsers: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.03:44
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persian_xFlannel> I have 180gb, 120gb of which is taken by Vista and I want to shrink that size but I cant. I am on HP tx1000 notebook and I get errors everytime I try installing Ubuntu after boot, mostly it jams at 15% during setup03:44
matt1mneptok: jdong; thanks  will check them out!03:44
MidnighTokerpersian_x, have you checked your install media?03:44
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Flannelpersian_x: If it stalls midway through setup, its most likely a bad CD.  Did you check the CD for defects?03:44
juan11the command iwlist is working, i see my access point, how do i connect to it ??03:44
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Yowserscan i give URLs in chat?03:45
Shpookcheck the md5 checksum, the ubuntu site has directions for that03:45
Yowsersi have my server build in a wishlist on newegg :)03:45
matt1so as far as anyone knows, no one has rated the ubuntu packages for system requirements?03:45
persian_xFlannel> I have burnt ubuntu on 3 dvds and 2 CD-RW , and all of them stall here and there03:45
matt1in one list03:45
juan11the command iwlist is working, i see my access point, how do i connect to it ??03:45
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MidnighTokerYowsers, posting a link will be better than posting all the info and flooding the chanel03:45
Shpooklol Yowsers, I have many builds in my Newegg wishlists03:45
maxd#compiz config03:45
Flannelpersian_x: The CD has a check CD for defects on it, you can verify burns with that.  Also, burn slower (4x)03:45
Yowsersshpook, haha yeah me 203:45
Shpookpersian-x, it could be a bad download also03:46
Flannelpersian_x: You also might want to check the downloads (the MD5 of the iso)03:46
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matt1persian_x: have you tried using the boot codes ... like noapm acpi=off and so on?03:46
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persian_xnope I am very new to Ubuntu i've been running on crappy windows for more than a decade and I really want to switch to Linux but I am having trouble familiarising myself with the codes and commands and the whole picture frame of GNU/Linux03:47
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Yowsersi will be using VMWare Server (free version) with ubuntu as the host OS.. i plan on having 2 windows server 2003 instances and 1 windows xp instance... will this server suffice: http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=675578603:47
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Yowsersi will be running in raid 103:47
matt1persian_x: some systems will result in a black screen when booting unless you use a boot code to improve the compatibility.. press f1 for help at the boot menu..03:47
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Dialntonethis is soo cool03:48
Dialntoneapt-get install beep03:48
Shpookhmm...maybe my freezing issues are directly from firefox....an hour and still no freezing using swiftfox03:48
Dialntoneapt-get install beep03:48
Dialntone beep -f 1500.7 -r 10 -d 100 -l 90003:48
Dialntoneits really cool :D03:48
persian_xmatt1> which blackscreen are u talking about? I havent gotten any for now03:48
Dialntoneim making music with my internal speakers03:48
matt1persian_x: where the live CD stalls during booting03:49
Kudakwhat does it mean "press a to append text" ??? --- what append means ?03:49
endralange-pack-en depends on language-pack-en-base; however: Package language-pack-en-base is not installed. Errors were encountered while processing: language-pack-en. pkgsel failed with error code 103:49
Shpookdialntone: on older motherboards, you used to be able to route sound through the internal speaker. sounded like crap, but it was cool. i don't think it's possible anymore though.03:49
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endraThis is from the installation CD (no network), how do I get language-pack-en-base to install?03:50
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DialntoneShpook,  i remember doing this with apple when i couldn't remember -- i wish there was a linux program out there that lets you make music03:50
persian_xMatt1> Live CD stalls during LOADING (mostly at: Loading hardware drivers OR Loading network interfeces) AND/OR during the actual setup (usually at 15%)03:50
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KudakVI Users: what does it mean "press a to append text" ??? --- what append means ?03:50
tt_stick on the end03:50
MidnighTokerYowsers, personally i'd want 1core per "computer" -so 3virtual+1 host. get atleast a dual core board that supports dual core processors (or wait and put 4x4core AMD64s in)03:50
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persian_xBtw, I have AMD64 and I have downloaded 7.04 64-bit03:51
tt_Kudak: "a" puts you at the end of the current line and you can add on from there.03:51
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Kudaktt_: oh i see, alright thx.03:51
mmschneiHello, I am relatively new to Ubuntu (kubuntu actually). I was trying to get beryl working and I am having some issues, could some please let me know where I should be looking for support. I would great appreciate it. =)03:51
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persian_xAlso, I really want to take off Vista and start with a fresh HD with Ubuntu running only, but I worry that I might not be able to completly adapt myself and/or get stuck with hardware that I cannot find drivers for03:52
tt_Kudak: actually "a" adds at the current position, "A" adds to the end of the line03:52
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Yowsersmidnightoker: well it is a dual core amd proc, so 2 cpus... the mobo supports that proc.. and ubuntu can run on very little cpu, correct?03:52
Kudaktt_: yea figured it, thanks bro03:52
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eclecticuspersian_x: thats the problem I had when I tried to switch03:52
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Yowsersmidnightoker: the VMs will not be very cpu dependent03:52
Dryftle sigh.03:52
MidnighTokerpersian_x, assuming you can get a working bootCD then you know your hardware will work when you boot up. -can you try a 32bit bootcd maybe?03:52
persian_xeclecticus> tell me about it03:52
matt1persian_x: so many of us have been there.  keep trying. it's worth it =)03:53
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Yowsersmidnightoker: its just the quad cores are still pricey, and i was trying to do this build in budget :)03:53
eclecticuspersian_x: i got everything setup, and then realized my Wireless wouldn't work correctly, or not at all03:53
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jstarcherfresh install of ubuntu, I reboot from the installer and get Grub Error 2....any ideas?03:53
MidnighTokerYowsers, then it should do it, but i think its going to be slow.  -that and you'll want 4gb of ram  -if budget, then definatly up the ram  -the last thing you want is the machines swapping out03:53
DownixYowsers:  Bah, only quads?  I'm talking the boss into an octet CPU setup03:53
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matt1persian_x: I started with dual boot laptop, then eventually 2 PCs with ubuntu only.  my home is M$ free now03:54
Dryfthaving trouble accessing an Ubuntu share from my OS X laptop.  I noticed a couple of posts on the forums but there didn't seem to be any resolutions, it sees the shares but just keeps asking me to authorize and then saying my user/pass are wrong.  Any input?03:54
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Yowsersmidnightoker: yeah, it has 4 gb.. notice quantity 2 in the kingston ram :) should be 4 x 1gb sticks03:54
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persian_xwhich option would you guys recommend: A)Multiple OS Ubuntu&Vista (60gb/120gb respectively) OR B)Fresh HD with Ubuntu (180gb)??03:54
sivikwhats the command to reconfigure the xserver03:54
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eclecticuspersian_x: or that certain software wasn't available or compatible.. like for my computer science courses, we use Visual Studio C++.. had trouble finding something on linux that was comparable, and worked the same.. didnt have any luck03:54
Arc|Angelhey eveyrone - i hope the evening is going well03:54
nekcaikaspersian_x: this depends on what you actually use your machine for.03:54
MidnighTokerYowsers, missed that ;)03:54
sherra1zi have a problem with my ubuntu03:54
Downixpersian_x: I do Ubuntu with QEMU to run WinXP03:54
eclecticuspersian_x: I did the dual boot for a while, ubuntu/xp03:54
nekcaikassherra1z: poor you03:54
Arc|Angeli can not recall the method to stop the ops from asking for the cd03:55
sherra1zyes X)03:55
persian_xnekcaikas> Heavy bittorrent downloads, schoolworks (word, excel, powerpoint), Surf the net & sometimes games03:55
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MidnighTokerpersian_x, dual booting is useful; especially when you absolutely must haveto play that game that wont run in linux03:55
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Arc|Angeli am trying to install some things like apache and it keeps asking me to put the cd in03:55
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Arc|Angelinstead of going out to the net03:55
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Dryftanyone else using Ubuntu on a network with an OS X machine?03:56
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Arc|Angelwe have an os x at work03:56
persian_xMidnightoker>I realize but Vista wont let me shrink the space its been taking (120gb for GOD SAKE!!!) and I can only give 60 to ubuntu which isnt enough03:56
eclecticusdamn, i need another HDD. so i can try the dual booting thing again03:56
sherra1zi am a new ubuntu's user03:56
Arc|Angeland ubuntu pcs03:56
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eclecticuspersian_x: GParted03:56
MatthewPlanchardhey, I've uninstalled evolution and yet the icon is still under my office tab in the applications menu. Is there any way to manually remove it?03:56
Arc|Angeli am trying to get my terabyte server up and running03:56
eclecticuspersian_x: i had the same problem you are having03:56
eclecticuspersian_x: gparted is your solution03:56
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sherra1zthere are some spanish03:56
xIkeI am Dryft03:57
DryftArc|Angel: have you tried accessing an SMB/NFS share on an Ubuntu box from the Mac?03:57
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MidnighTokerpersian_x, wow, thats nasty, wont let you shrink it at all? -you could always re-install it. -and 60BG is plenty to get Ubuntu going03:57
MidnighTokerpersian_x, i'm playing with Ubuntu on a 20gb with room to spare03:57
Arc|Angelwe have secure directories stored on our webserver from the mac test machine03:57
DryftI've got a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.10 that sees my Ubuntu shares, but won't authenticate me03:57
xIkeyou guys doing anything to prep for gutsy?03:57
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persian_xmidnightoker> might be enough for Ubuntu, but not for my torrent downloads (which I will run STRICLY on ubuntu 64-bit)03:57
Arc|Angelthe authenticating is done on the ubuntu side03:58
persian_xecclecticus> THANKS A LOT!03:58
brueniggiving the computer a rest so that it will be prepared for the bloat that is the next release03:58
eclecticuspersian_x: for what03:58
cafuegoxIke: yes, watering the cats this afternoon.03:58
endraAn installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software. What is failing is the install of language-pack-en (caused by langauge-pack-en-base not being installed). How can I fix this?03:58
xIkecafuego: lol03:58
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Dryftright, Im just wondering whats up, since I know my user/pass are correct, and smb is setup as share level03:58
MidnighTokerDryft, if you cant access shares on your Ubuntu SMB server try `smbpasswd -a <username>` on the ububtu box03:58
DownixHow is Ubuntu's support for the 8-core SPARC T1 anyways?03:58
persian_xmidnightoker> see, Im really tired of Vista so I just want to give this piece of crap maybe 15-20gb and the rest for Ubuntu, but nothing has been working as planned lol03:58
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DryftMidnighToker: will do03:58
persian_xeclecticus> GParted!!03:58
xIkewondering if I need to uninstall beryl and compiz before gutsy03:58
Arc|Angeli found my u/p was perfect and i screwed up the 075503:58
MidnighTokerpersian_x, yeah, i hear that.03:58
cafuegopersian_x: I wouldn't worry about it, 60Gb is huge for Linux. (unlike for Windows)03:59
MidnighTokerpersian_x, use the 60BG at the end of the drive for backup, wipe vista off then re-install it03:59
Kudakwow, the vimtutor is an awesome tutorial guide03:59
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Arc|Angelso does anyone know how to get this server to stop pointing to the cd for installing apps03:59
MidnighTokercafuego, i think its the downloads that are the problem03:59
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MidnighTokerKudak, :)03:59
bruenig!ot | Kudak03:59
ubotuKudak: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:59
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Arc|Angeli know we can do it - i just forgot it03:59
MidnighTokerArc|Angel, synaptic package manager03:59
Kudakbruenig: lol ?03:59
Arc|Angelfrom the command line?04:00
Ste-FoyOK thx MidnighToker04:00
krisHi, I'm looking for a program for linux similar to FRAPS, www.fraps.com, to capture video from the screen.04:00
Arc|Angeli do apt-get04:00
persian_xmidnightoker> If I wipe Vista off I will DEFINITELY not re-isntall it Lolll04:00
MidnighTokerArc|Angel, sorry, software sources04:00
sherra1zI have problems and i need help...04:00
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bruenigArc|Angel, delete the line from /etc/apt/sources.list04:00
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MidnighTokerpersian_x, if you were booting nicely on a live-cd i'd tell you to go for it04:00
Dialntonethat beep is driving me insane04:00
drewbyWhat is a graphics-based telnet program for Ubuntu?04:00
MidnighToker-also, how are you accessing the internet? wireless might not work without some fettling and its horrible when you cant get online to find out how to get online04:00
cafuegodrewby: xterm -e telnet04:00
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sherra1zif someone are able to help me, i will be pleased...04:01
MidnighTokerdrewby, or putty which works on linux/windows -but why telnet not ssh?04:01
Dialntoneis there a command line to run over and over again  in the terminal that won't stop?04:01
persian_xMidnightoker> yes stricly wireless =S unfortunetaly04:01
tt_yah, telnet has no graphics04:01
MidnighTokersherra1z, ask the question, not to ask04:01
krissherra1z: Go ahead and ask your question.04:01
cafuegoDialntone: `watch'04:01
drewbyI need a graphics based telnet of ssh04:01
sherra1zok, many thanks04:01
tim167about VLC: how can i change the order of the songs in my playlist ?04:01
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MidnighTokerpersian_x, i'd recommend cashing out on an ethernet cable04:01
drewbyto do remote matlab plotting04:01
CaneToadDoes anyone know if the new ubuntu 7.10 release is supposed to well support ATI video?  The ubuntu 7 installer won't work on my machine (ATI mobility radeon 9700) although Fedora 7 works fine.04:01
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MidnighTokerpersian_x, just incase ;)04:01
krisHi, I'm looking for a program for linux similar to FRAPS, www.fraps.com, to capture video from the screen. Anyone familiar with such a program and could provide me with the name so I can look into it? Thanks.04:02
cafuegodrewby: write a 2-line bash script that asks for a hostname via a dialog, then runs telnet.04:02
bruenigCaneToad, it's the same x, the same drivers that exist now, this is not microsoft, everything that is going into it already exists04:02
persian_xMidnightoker> What if Ubuntu doesnt even recognise my network card? lol which is most likely04:02
Dialntonecool i made my own alarm :D04:02
mmschnei_Hello, I am new to the whole composite desktop thing, I have been trying to get beryl working, can someone please help me troubleshoot my issue?04:02
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kitcheCaneToad: ubuntu 7.04 supports ATI also just that the ATI driver is horrible if you use the fglrx which most likely you don't with a mobility04:02
drewbycafeugo: that'll work?04:02
MidnighTokerpersian_x, thats most unlikely. the network card, i would think will be fine04:02
cafuegodrewby: of course04:02
tim167kris: i think you  'd want to  google xvidcapt, not 100% sure...04:03
cafuegodrewby: After you input the address, run 'xterm -e telnet ${HOST}' from the bash script, and voila.04:03
persian_xMidnighToker> if thats the case then I dont see why it wouldnt connect wireless (im on HP notebook)04:03
sherra1ztonight I installed ubuntu for first time, I tried to install opera like web browser, then Firefox dont work04:03
xIkekrisL gtk-record desktop04:03
MidnighTokermmschnei_, i know nothing about it, but it would help if you told us what graphics card, and what you've tried to do to make it work04:03
kristim167: Ok I'll look into that.04:03
krisxlke: Ok. I'll look into that too.04:03
fastfingerI am having hard time installign skype :<04:03
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MidnighTokerpersian_x, the wireless support is far more complicated than a generic network controller on a PCI bus04:03
Dialntonecafuego,  do you know how to make flashing colors in the terminal?04:03
Dialntonemake it repeat over ang over agian04:04
bruenigfastfinger, maybe you are leaving too much time between the first and second click04:04
CaneToadkitche/bruenig, booting from the ubuntu 7 dvd to install doesn't work on my machine, X server starts and then can't progress, wonder if 7.10 will be any different04:04
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bruenigCaneToad, it's all the same thing, releases are illusions04:04
tim167kris: http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/ :)04:04
cafuegoDialntone: take an acid tab04:04
MidnighTokerbruenig, it cant be the same thing; he's got two CDs ;)04:04
fastfingerbulmer: ? said libasound2 is unacceptable or something04:04
mmschnei_I have a nVidia 8600 GT, using the latest drivers from nVidia. I had it working earlier and now its broken from some reason, I start up beryl-manager, and then beryl crashes "twice in less than a minute" and I get dumped back to kwin. I have tried doing a complete removal of all packages and reinstalling but that doesn't seem to have changed anything.04:04
cafuegodrewby: telnet $(zenity --entry --text "Enter hostname")04:04
Dialntoneacid tab?04:04
fastfingerand the libasound2 i have is that latest04:05
drewbycafuego: why not just xterm -e ssh username@blah.com04:05
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sherra1zsomeone know how can I restore ubuntu at before date?04:05
kristim167: Gracias!04:05
MasterShrekargh, compiled a new kernel and my sound driver isnt there :(04:05
Arc|Angelworked perfect thanks - drew a blank on that for some reason04:05
cafuegodrewby: Run whatever, my point is zenity.04:05
sherra1zkris, hablas espaol....04:05
mmschnei_if I run beryl --replace then I get windows w/o boarders and no alt-tab04:05
sherra1zte necesitoooo04:05
Arc|Angelanyone have a good source list04:05
bruenigdrewby, or xdialog04:05
mmschnei_kicker seems to die to then.04:05
MidnighTokermmschnei_, i'd posibly say use compiz not Beryl. they are joining again, and my friend seemed to get compiz working with ATI as a first time linux user (so it cant be that bad)04:05
mmschnei_MidnighToker, I can get compiz working.04:06
persian_xMidnightoker> Do you suggest me to just wait for the new release and retry everything?04:06
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mmschnei_MidnighToker, I want to use some emerald themes, with compiz I dont' even know where to set the themes at04:06
Arc|Angelwhats this mean04:06
Arc|AngelSetting up apache (1.3.34-4.1) ...04:06
Arc|Angeldpkg: error processing apache (--configure):04:06
Arc|Angel subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 104:06
Arc|AngelErrors were encountered while processing:04:06
Arc|Angel apache04:06
Arc|AngelE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)04:06
krissherra1z: Si necesitas ayuda con Linux en Espanol, yo te recomiendo que buscas en #ubuntu-es. No puedo hablarlo muy bien. Lo siento.04:06
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MidnighTokerpersian_x, i'd suggest trying a 32bit boot CD, or try the new beta -its virtually released and its stable04:06
bruenigsubprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 104:06
Arc|Angeland that means?04:06
mmschnei_and I noticed the merging of beryl & compiz is going to be called compiz-fusion, but I didn't see anything along those lines in the application database04:06
MidnighTokerArc|Angel, sounds like your system is foobared04:06
bruenigthe script that runs after the installation failed04:07
Arc|Angelfoorbarded it is a fresh install04:07
MidnighTokermmschnei_, its not in the default repository, do some googling there are guides out there04:07
bruenigit isn't foobared, that person doesn't know anything04:07
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phixmozilla-thunderbird likes to crash (segfault) on me for no reason.  I am using amd64bit vers of ubuntu (on a intel core 2 duo, installed from alternative install cd)04:07
kitchemmschnei_: it's part of gutsy since compiz-fusion is done but it's not a merger really between compiz and beryl it's a merger between compiz-extra and beryl04:07
mmschnei_MidnighToker, ok, thanks, I'll give that a shot, you have any idea about compiz theme management?04:07
Arc|Angeli thought errors like this are done when it failed to install04:07
sherra1zmi problema es que a partir de intentar instalar opera, no puedo salir a internet con ningun web browser04:07
persian_xMidnighToker> Is something wrong with 64-bit?04:07
gerroendra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125084 might want to skip the part about conky though04:07
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phixIt only started doing that today, if I remove .mozilla-thunderbird it works up until I add in my IMAP account, then it crashses04:07
MidnighTokerpersian_x, no, but i've had older versions not booting on 64bit hardware and working fine with a 32bit release04:07
mmschnei_kitche, ok, good to know its in gutsy... thanks =)04:08
krissherra1z: Esta channel esta reservado para ayuda solo en ingles. Si estas buscando para ayuda en espanol, vaya a #ubuntu-es.04:08
MidnighTokermmschnei_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48131404:08
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bruenigArc|Angel, the postinst script failed, you can open the deb up and edit it or perhaps there is a dpkg flag that will allow you to skip that script04:08
phixAny ideas?04:08
MidnighTokeror mmschnei_ http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+compiz+fusion04:08
sherra1zkris: gracias, disculpa la molestia04:08
persian_xMidnighToker> Thanks so much, youve been great help!!04:08
MidnighTokerpersian_x, i have my moments :)04:08
krissherra1z: No problemo. One moment, maybe I can help you.04:09
Arc|Angeldid it complete the install?  -  An error is still not a good thing so I would like to find out what the error is04:09
MidnighTokerpersian_x, good luck getting off vista04:09
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krissherra1z: So you want to install opera, but can't? What's the problem?04:09
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persian_xMidnighToker> Once I'll know enough about Setting everything correctly on Ubuntu, Vista is going bye-bye forever04:09
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phixpersian_x: you use Vista?04:10
bruenigArc|Angel, seriously try to read the errors, they are written in understandable english if you don't just recoil immediately from them and go "I don't know this bah, what is this." It says that the post-installation script (the script that runs post(after) installation) failed. That means that the files were installed.04:10
sivikhas anyone have any luck with nvidia drivers with a 8600GT video card04:10
mmschnei_sivik, yep04:10
mmschnei_Im running it now04:10
phixsivik: yes04:10
persian_xphix> Yes, unfortunetaly04:10
phixpersian_x: why?04:10
phixpersian_x: install XP at least04:10
persian_xphix> Came with tx1000 notebook04:11
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mmschnei_MidnighToker, thanks. I am not used to ubuntu yet. I don't get why compiz-fusion cannot be installed now on 7.0404:11
siviki'm apparently doing somethig wrong because its not working for me04:11
phixpersian_x: :S I wouldn't of bought it04:11
phixunless they loaded it with XP04:11
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phixor no os and gave me monies04:11
mmschnei_sivik, I grabbed them from nvidia's website and installed them that way.04:11
Arc|Angeli also have an issue where I tried to upgrade to 7.10 on my laptop and now that is foobarded it wont reconize any of my usb drives so i can save my email nor will it connect to the network - any suggestions on how to get my email saved04:11
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MidnighTokermmschnei_, its not something i've played with, and i've only been using ubuntu for about 24hours, so...  google is your firend ;)04:11
sivikmmschnei_, apparently i'm doing something wrong cause its not working for me, i'm running vesa right now04:11
persian_xphix> I love the touchscreen Tablet look and the fingerprint scanner, 200gb & AMD6404:11
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash04:12
sivikmmschnei_, didn't know it would work that way, i will try that one04:12
persian_xphix> They loaded it up with Vista Home Premium04:12
mmschnei_sivik, I couldn't get it working within ubuntu's package management04:12
jarrod_i just hooked up 7.10 to a monitor and had to reset the resolution to get it to work. had to take it down all the way to 640x480. this has caused some problems. the preference > resolution only shows this res. suggestions?04:12
fevelcafuego, LOL04:12
phixfingerprint scanner :/ you do relise everytime you touch something you are giving after your authentication key04:12
eclecticusi have a question - why did all of you switch to Linux04:12
mudochHello, I have a question regarding auto starting xxamp under 7.0404:12
sivikmmschnei_, thats what i'm trying to do it with, i will try the driver from the nvidia website04:12
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MasterShrekjarrod_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:12
eclecticusI want to switch to Linux but I don't know why, and it scares me that i might not find software that I need to work correctly... like what happend last time04:12
mmschnei_MidnighToker, thanks, I've been googling for hours, I've read both of the links you gave me already w/o much of a soln. found. I think at this point I'll just wait for 7.10 to come out and see how that handles it before I put more time into this.04:13
adantehi, where should i go to install irssi 0.8.12?04:13
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c_plus_plushello, my nvidia restricted driver gives me a blank screen if i enable it and reboot, changing back to the nv driver fixes the problem04:13
persian_xphix> worst comes to worst I'll get FBI knocking on my door, BAH!04:13
sivikeclecticus, what do you need?04:13
phixpersian_x: authentication via something you are is not a good idea, there is no way to change who you are if you get comprimised ;)04:13
adanteor even 0.8.11.. what is the deal with 'unstable' packages in ubuntu?04:13
MidnighTokereclecticus, i was sick of windows and couldnt afford new mac hardware... saying that, linux is far nicer than OSX, far mre open04:13
drewbyxterm is not graphics based04:13
drewbyI need to do plotting with matlab04:13
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mudochhow do I get the xxamp install to autostartup04:13
eclecticussivik: Visual Studio C++, uTorrent, Miranda-IM04:13
phixmudoch: point and click04:13
Flannelmudoch: don't use xammp, get a real LAMP stack04:13
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MidnighTokerpersian_x, there was also the worrying case of mercedes drivers having hands stolen in carjacking incidents when they starting using fingerprints instead of ignitian keys04:14
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mudochYeah I thought about that but xxamp has many module installed....04:14
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Arc|Angelany way to recover that laptop after a failed upgrade to 7.10 beta04:15
Berzerkerfailed to initialize nvidia kernel module04:15
Berzerkerany help?04:15
MasterShrekBerzerker, still?04:15
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes04:15
FlannelArc|Angel: Finish the upgrade04:15
drewbyShould I use vnc?04:16
mudocharcangel did you get that beat from Linux format?04:16
MasterShrekBerzerker, have you been upgrading or anything? you should only have to install it once04:16
bruenigArc|Angel, wrong channel, it is a good idea to at least understand like the bare basics of linux before doing something like that, I mean knowledge of front ends tends to be very unhelpful04:16
Arc|Angeli can not get it to connect to the network now, neither ethernet or wireless04:16
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bruenigknowing how to click through the python scripts is not enough to justify a jump to beta04:16
Arc|Angeli am no guru i know this but i have done upgrades before04:17
BerzerkerI havn'04:17
Arc|Angelnever had this before04:17
FlannelArc|Angel: Sneakernet to the rescue then.  Suggest you download an alternate CD for gutsy and use that as a repo.  But, you really ought to be asking in #ubuntu+1, they might have a solution for you04:17
Arc|Angeli wanted to test it on an extra laptop i have04:17
MasterShrekArc|Angel, well, u do realize that gutsy is still beta, but i would say you need to load modules for your nic cards04:17
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bruenigyeah it could be your network interface card card04:18
BerzerkerMasterShrek, I haven't been upgrading.04:18
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Arc|Angeli was thinking the modules got screwed when it rebooted - my son pulled the ethernet cord out by mistake04:18
bruenigthat had nothing to do with it04:18
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MasterShrekBerzerker, if i remember right you were using the nvidia driver from their website, have you ever got it to work?04:18
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BerzerkerI also tried the nvidia-glx04:19
kitcheBerzerker: if you installed nvidia from their website you might nee dot reinstall it if you upgraded your kernel lately04:19
Arc|Angelwell it was taking down the network manager and then the cord was pulled04:19
BerzerkerI haven't.04:19
FlannelArc|Angel: Try the alternate CD to do the local package thing to finish the upgrade.04:19
EADG_What program can I use undelete a folder & its files on a fat32 external usb HDD?04:19
BerzerkerI haven't done any upgrading of any kind04:19
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Berzerkerall I did was install madwifi, and the error was happening before I installed it04:19
mudochquestion regarding the auto starting the  XXAMP stack.... read something about the rc.local.... am i on the right track?  seems I can not find much on rc.local04:19
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MasterShrekBerzerker, when you install the driver, do it give you errors?04:19
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MasterShrekmudoch, if you want something to start on boot, put the command in rc.local04:20
Dr_Willismudoch rc.local is /etc/rc.local - its just a script file that gets ran at boot up.04:20
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MasterShrekBerzerker, what graphics card is it?04:20
Dr_Willismudoch i think rc.local is the Last thing that gets ran at boot up. ;)04:20
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MasterShrekDr_Willis, i think u are correct04:21
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Berzerker8600M GT04:21
Flannelmudoch: XAMPP isn't in ubuntu, its not really supported by us (because we don't usually deal with it).  You might ask the XAMPP people.  Or, as some have suggested, just use a real LAMP stack.  Its easy to install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP04:21
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sivikinstalling with the nvidia drivers still did not work with my 8600GT04:21
BerzerkerI'm doing this on a macbook pro04:21
mudochmastershrek/dr_willis  the default script says I have to mod the permissions first... is that correct?04:21
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siviki installed the drivers from the nvidia website04:21
MasterShrekmudoch, to run a program it has to be executable, so probably04:21
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sivikis there something else i need to do to test with it04:21
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Dr_Willismudoch rc.local should have the proper permissions allready. (it might need a chmod +x) to it..04:21
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MasterShreksivik and Berzerker, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart04:22
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Flannelmudoch: make sure you install it to /opt04:22
HeygabeWhat is the application that puts system status on the desktop in fluxbox?04:22
shanti hi there .. i always get nasty hangs when i try lvcreate ( it somehow trys to access my cdrom-device ) .. after some kind of timeout the command finishs .. how can i stop this lockups ?04:22
mudochok thanks all.... just wanted to get my head around the rc.local... thought that might be the way...04:22
Berzerkerwith the drive loaded in xorg, or vesa loaded in xorg?04:22
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bruenigHeygabe, conky will do it on any desktop04:22
FlannelHeygabe: Does conky wor with fluxbox?04:22
andy__can someone help me with my c compiler04:22
shantii am on the install-cd04:22
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bruenigandy__, you writing a c compiler?04:23
Dr_Willismudoch not a lot to rc.local :) its just a simple script. By default it just does an 'exit 0' i belive.04:23
Heygabeis that the one that comes with puppy?  I love theone that comes with puppy04:23
sivikMasterShrek, already did that, coming up and telling me the failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module04:23
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MasterShrekBerzerker, u should have nvidia in the xorg.conf04:23
andy__no lmao. the one I have on my ubuntu is being weird04:23
BerzerkerI can't start the X Server if I have it in there04:23
Berzerkergives me the same error as sivik04:23
Dr_WillisConky works fine with fluxbox :)  Flannel04:23
MasterShreksivik, and Berzerker you both have 8600's do you know for sure if that card is supported?04:23
mariooliveirai need help.  firefox  sometimes tries to open php file and sometimes  types starts opening  new pages to infinity04:23
BerzerkerAccording to different tutorials on installing Ubuntu on Macbook Pros, it should be.04:23
mudochflannel.... yep got the xxamp running, but have to start every time..... just doing a test box here for it..... I did install a LAMP on another box.04:23
sivikMasterShrek: yes, because i downloaded the drivers from the nvidia website04:23
andy__checking for sed... /bin/sed04:24
andy__checking for gcc... gcc04:24
andy__checking for C compiler default output file name...04:24
andy__configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables04:24
sivikandy__, use pastebin.com04:24
Berzerkersivik, just because you downloaded it from their site doesn't mean it's compatable04:24
CITguysivik: what is the error you are getting?04:24
MasterShrekandy__, sudo apt-get install build-essential     then try again04:24
eclecticushow do i find out what kind of HDD my laptop requires ? ATA-6, SATA 3.0 Gb/s , or Serial ATA150 ?04:24
sivikCITguy, "failed to load the NVIDIA kernel modules"04:24
BerzerkerI'm having the same problem as sivik04:24
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Dr_Williseclecticus open it up and look.04:24
mariooliveiraany one knows how to disable firefox from trying to open php files?04:24
sivikeclecticus, what willis said04:24
pavsok time for a silly question. is it possible to make linux box report a customized uptime report ie, instead of the actual 20 days make it say 20,000 days ;)04:24
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eclecticussivik: will it say ?04:24
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Flannelmariooliveira: youre viewing them through a webserver?04:25
CITguyhow'd you install the NVIDIA driver?04:25
mariooliveiraor opening  pages to infinite04:25
Berzerkerrun package from nvidia04:25
MasterShrekpavs, no, that would kinda defeat the purpose wouldnt it?04:25
Dr_Williseclecticus  look at the conectors on the drive.  it may be ide. or sata.04:25
sivikCITguy, i did it with the apt-get first and then install via the ./NVIDIA*.run04:25
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Flannelmariooliveira: Thats a misconfiguration on the server (its not executing the PHP script), not the browser04:25
Dr_Willis eclecticus as to the speeds - that normally dosent matter.04:25
adantehi, whenever i install a package now i get about a million errors pertaining to failing to write font cache and openoffice not being configured, how cna i fix these? i tried touchging the directories but this does not seem to have helped04:25
MasterShreksivik and Berzerker uninstall nvidia-glx first maybe04:25
CITguytry executing the *.run file with the --add-this-kernel option04:25
pavsthat sucks04:25
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sivikCITguy, ?04:26
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andy__what was the package name again?04:26
mariooliveiraFlannel:  How do i solve that?04:26
CITguyexecute ./NVIDIA*.run --add-this-kernel04:26
MasterShrekandy__, build-essential04:26
eclecticusDr_Willis: I want to upgrade my laptops HDD so i can dual boot Vista and Ubuntu, right now it has a 60GB HDD04:26
eclecticuswhat should I upgrade my laptops HDD to04:26
BerzerkerMasterShrek, I installed the glx after I found the run package gave me the error,04:26
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aroonihow do i create a .vmdk file to use with virtualbox?  are vmdk files smart enough to be growing in size like .vdi files?  can .vmdk files be expanded in the future?04:26
Flannelmariooliveira: Make sure you've got mod-php enabled, and um, I don't really remember.  You might ask in #apache04:26
CITguyit will proceed to compile a kernel interface for your machine and add a *custom.run file in the directory04:26
siviknow its actually doing something now04:26
Dr_Williseclecticus 60gb is plenty huge for that job. :) upgrade to whatever your budget can afford i guess.04:26
BerzerkerDoesn't it automatically do that?04:27
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CITguynot automatically04:27
siviksame error CITguy04:27
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eclecticusDr_Willis: But I torrent alot :(, 60Gb didnt work in the past04:27
Dr_Williseclecticus higher rpm would be nicer/quicker.. but more $$ - and will suck down battery life.04:27
Dr_Williseclecticus easy fix would be to get a external usb hd for your torrents.04:27
andy__eclecticus, buy a slave hd?04:28
Berzerkerexternal drive.04:28
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Berzerker160GB My Book04:28
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Dr_WillisLike you really NEED 60gb of torrents on the laptop all the time. :)04:28
eclecticusare those reliable ?04:28
sivikCITguy, same error04:28
BerzerkerI have one.04:28
BerzerkerWorks great.04:28
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eclecticusi heard they die on you04:28
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MasterShrekeclecticus, dont drop it =P04:28
BerzerkerSet it up through my router04:28
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Berzerkerwirelessly to all computers04:28
Berzerkerworks fine.04:28
Dr_Williseclecticus they use the same hd's as in the laptop.. ... so..04:28
Dr_WillisThe external hds are about the same $$ as internal hds when ya find them on sale. :)04:29
eclecticusdoes my laptop have to be connected to it in order for it to be downloading the torrents or. .. how does that work04:29
Berzerkerside question: how would I make something (like yakuake) run at startup?04:29
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Dr_Williseclecticus.. well to ACCESS the drive.. it has to be connected.. of course..04:29
MasterShrekBerzerker, are you on kde or gnome?04:29
sivikBerzerker, make it run at run level 204:29
cafuegoexternal HDDs cost the same as internal HDDs plus $20 for an enclosure <heh>04:29
jeffreyfhello.  What file controls what release/OS is selected for automatic boot?04:29
MasterShreku can put it in system > preferences > sessions04:29
sivikjeffreyf, grub04:29
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CITguyok, have you installed the following prior to executing the *.run file :: "libc6 libc6-dev xorg-dev make linux-headers-`uname -r`"?04:29
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Flanneljeffreyf: /boot/grub/menu.lst04:29
Dr_Williscafuego ive been finding the externals cheaper at times. :) gotta love sales.04:29
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MasterShrekBerzerker, yakuake is awesome =)04:30
sivikCITguy, their should be04:30
Berzerkerhow would I make it run at level 204:30
eclecticus$89.99 for a 160 GB laptop HDD..  how much do external HDDs cost ?04:30
MasterShreki dont think u would want yakuake to be at runlevel 204:30
Berzerkerwell then how would I make it run at login04:30
Dan_LOk.  So I'm taking the plunge here.  Would somebody verify this instruction as accurate and functional:    http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first04:30
MasterShrekBerzerker, u can put it in system > preferences > sessions04:30
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sivikwhy would you want vista04:30
sivikvista is worse than ME04:30
TIMURI have a Question04:30
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sivikTIMUR, just ask04:30
cdm10We may have an Answer04:30
TIMURHow do u set ONE inch MARGins in Open office ??04:30
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EADG_eclecticus: $129 for 500Gb external.04:31
jeffreyfsivik:  where is that on the drive?.....04:31
cdm10TIMUR: it should be in Format>Paragraph04:31
Berzerkera ha04:31
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MasterShrekformat > paragraph or something i spose04:31
mariooliveiraFlannel: Tanks for the tips i thought it was something of virus or something like that04:31
sivikjeffreyf, /boot/grub/grub.list04:31
CITguyTIMUR: Format > Page04:31
Berzerkerthat's done04:31
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Berzerkerback to the graphics problems04:31
bruenigTIMUR, your hand accidentally slipped onto the shift button a couple of times04:31
sivikBerzerker, lol04:31
jeffreyfsivik:  Thanks!04:31
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TIMURand then?? format paragraph ,,, i can't chagne in values04:31
cdm10yeah, who the hell capitalizes stuff on teh interweb?04:32
MasterShrekBerzerker, im confused as to why its not working, are u running 32 or 64 bit? and did you download the proper file?04:32
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Berzerkeryes, I'm almost positive I did04:32
cdm10TIMUR: Well, a bug in OpenOffice is preventing me from accessing that dialog at all, so I can't walk you through it... sorry.04:32
sivikjeffreyf, yw04:32
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griberalOther than package management, are there any major differences between CentOS and Ubuntu Server?04:32
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Berzerkerone second MAster,04:32
BerzerkerI'll brb04:32
sivikgriberal, i would run debian over ubuntu server, i hate centos, too many files to change a config file04:32
MasterShrekbow to your master =P04:32
cdm10griberal: package management and available packages make a BIG difference.04:33
CITguyTIMUR: Format > Page, Page Tab, Margins Group04:33
TIMURWho else can Help me To set 1 INCH margins in OPEn offcie PLease04:33
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jeffreyfsivik:  /boot/grub/menu.lst.........got it!04:33
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MasterShreki would run slackware over debian over ubuntu server04:33
sivikTIMUR, you should be able to move the tabs at the top and left to make it an ince04:33
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sivikMasterShrek, i have never used slackware, why do you like it better04:33
sivikyou still around CITguy?04:33
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drewbyI tried making a bash script04:33
cdm10TIMUR: what's with your funky capitalization?04:33
MasterShrekits beautiful, thats about all i can say lol04:33
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TIMURI can't tell how to make it an Inch04:33
sivikCITguy, what were those things i needed to install04:34
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RB2I just had the strangest experience... I rebooted my machine (running 7.10) after some updates and my Compiz theme changed.04:34
sivikTIMUR, ten little marks is an inch04:34
bbardlbraddHey, there's a lady crying behind my house... Can someone help me get a dock for Ubuntu (gnome)04:34
peacepipejvHelp, i nstalled a program via synaptic. Its nowhere to be found.04:34
FlannelRB2: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support, thanks.04:34
mehevi_I'm having trouble installing murrina engine for gtk+2.0.  I installed the deb but in my window decoration options it does not show up, I'm using xfce04:34
CITguylibc6 libc6-dev xorg-dev linux-headers-`uname -r` make04:34
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griberalsivik, why do you prefer Debian over Ubuntu Server?04:34
drewbybasically ssh user@place.com; tap matlab; matlab04:34
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MasterShrekpeacepipejv, what program?04:34
drewbybut it didn't work04:34
sivikgriberal, i think it runs better04:34
matt1what package will let me log into gmail chat using the curses command line interface?  is there any?04:34
CITguysivik: then run ./NVIDIA*.run --add-this-kernel04:34
SiCoTRoNiCmost installed programs are in /bin04:34
drewbyI need a graphical ssh client.04:34
Flannelmatt1: any curses jabber client.  centericq is one04:34
novato_brhow can I listen this ?04:35
cdm10matt1: gaim-text (finch on Gutsy)04:35
griberalsivik, in what way? less crashes? faster?04:35
MasterShrekdrewby, vnc, but its not really ssh04:35
matt1Flannel:  dm10 : thx04:35
bbardlbraddI have the avant window manger, and I've heard that they make a dock, but where do I get it? It's like Abides or something?04:35
drewbyMasterShrek: anything other than vnc?04:35
SiCoTRoNiClook for it again on Synaptic and check the properties and it will say where is insatlled04:35
MasterShrekwhy would you want anything else drewby?04:35
vvdSiCoTRoNiC: /usr/bin :)04:35
drewbyThe directions on my school website said x-win04:35
SiCoTRoNiCyeah, sory04:35
drewbyMasterShrek: because my school doesn't have a vnc server running04:35
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BerzerkerI actually get an error under it04:36
Berzerker"No screens found"04:36
MasterShrekdrewby, i think u want rdesktop04:36
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drewbyI'll be back04:36
sivikrdesktop for rdp in linux, its nice04:36
MasterShrekBerzerker, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:36
johnadsfsdfdfhow can i find out which version of ubuntu im running?04:36
vvd<tab> <tab> in a terminal gives 3065 here04:36
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sivikCITguy, same error04:36
Dan_Lcan anybody help with some partitioning questions?04:36
Berzerkerselect nvidia, right?04:36
Berzerkeror nv04:37
sivikjohnadsfsdfdf, cat /proc/version04:37
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CITguyjohnadsfsdfdf: uname -a04:37
MasterShrekDan_L, fire away04:37
johnadsfsdfdfDan_L, i can try04:37
MasterShrekBerzerker, id try nvidia, if it doesnt work go back and pick something else04:37
griberalsivik, aren't Debian and Ubuntu Server basically the same thing?04:37
johnadsfsdfdfLinux mythbuntu 2.6.15-29-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Aug 29 13:20:33 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux ... which codename would that be04:37
bbardlbraddOh, no... it's called AWN (Dock for Ubuntu)... can someone help me understand how to get this app?04:37
BUDD}{Ai have a old backup i backed up with sbackup how do i del it ?04:37
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Berzerkerhow do I know the bus identifier?04:37
MasterShrekgriberal, ubuntu is based of debian04:37
Dan_LGenerally speaking, when doing a dual boot vista/linux, I should be shrinking the vista volume and running the live CD over it, true?04:37
Berzerkerdo I just leave it?04:37
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CITguysivik: run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common"04:37
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MasterShrekBerzerker, probably04:38
Dan_LI guess this isn't really a Linux question, so much as "I'm a stupid idiot and don't know crap about vista question".  Never mind.04:38
CITguyBerzerker: leave it04:38
EADG_Anybody know of a program that will undelete files/folders on a fat32 hard drive?04:38
johnadsfsdfdfDan_L, dont know anything about vista04:38
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MasterShrekDan_L, nobody knows anything about vista, the people that wrote it probably dont, its a crappy os alltogether04:38
johnadsfsdfdfDan_L: but id say that if you have 1 HD you should shrink the vista part, after its been installed04:38
sivikCITguy, same error "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module"04:38
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griberalMasterShrek, do you prefer Debian over Ubuntu Server too?04:38
sivikVista is almost as bad as ME04:38
MasterShrekand your hard drive sheds a tear every time it spins because it has it on it =P04:39
Dan_LYeah.  I suppose I'm just nervous about running this live disk.04:39
johnadsfsdfdfDan_L: and then let the ubuntu install setup a bootloader for you04:39
CITguysivik: have you ever had the NVIDIA driver working?04:39
Berzerkeramount of memory to be used?04:39
MasterShrekgriberal, neiter04:39
sivikCITguy, i have no clue, how do i determine this04:39
johnadsfsdfdfDan_L: burn your important files to disc04:39
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griberalMasterShrek, were you the one that said Slackware?04:39
bbardlbraddOh, AWN means Avant Window Manager... Well, I already have that window manager... but it doesn't have the dock, what ever shall I do? Someone... please04:39
CITguyBerzerker: use the amount of memory that is on board your graphics card04:39
MasterShrekBerzerker, if you know how much mem your vid card has put it there, but u can probably leave it blank04:39
sivikgriberal, yes he was04:39
MasterShrekgriberal, yes04:39
Berzerkerit's a 128mb04:39
Berzerkerso 12800004:40
BerzerkerI put?04:40
MasterShrekBerzerker, i think u need to put 12800004:40
Berzerkeror should I just leave it blank04:40
JEFFmasterFLEXAWN is the Avant Window Navigator, it IS a dock04:40
CITguysivik: a better question would be "Are you installing the NVIDIA driver from a clean install?"04:40
JEFFmasterFLEXyou must have beryl or compiz-fusion enabled to use it04:40
MasterShrekCITguy, that shouldnt matter04:40
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sivikCITguy, not anymore, how do i uninstall the old stuff without a reimage04:40
griberalFrom what I can tell, the only difference between Debian/Ubuntu Server and RedHat/CentOS is package management. Am I missing some other major differences?04:40
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MasterShreksivik, make sure if you are compiling the driver from nvidia, that you have nvidia-glx uninstalled04:40
onjCan anyone help me configure a Sound Blaster Audigy?04:41
MasterShrekgriberal, not really, theres a few things, but the package system is probably the main difference, and i guess the kernel patches that each distro adds04:41
Berzerkerwrite default files section to configuration file?04:41
PupUsercab2ceHi, I'm installing gutsy on a MacBook Pro, but it doesn't show on the rEFit menu?04:41
MasterShrekBerzerker, yea04:41
PupUsercab2ceHow can I fix this?04:41
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griberalMasterShrek, there are probably more RPM packages out there than there are DEB, right?04:42
JEFFmasterFLEXonj:  the drivers for the audigy should have been loaded automatically on boot04:42
onjWell, It doesn't work04:42
CITguysivik: are you getting the error when installing the driver or starting X?04:42
Iceshadowanyone happen to know how to mark and cut a region in vim?04:42
MasterShrekgriberal, i dont know for sure, probably about the same, anything that is rpm and easily be converted to deb, or tgz for slackware04:42
BerzerkerI rewrote it04:42
sivikCITguy, when typing startx04:42
Berzerkernow what do I do04:42
JEFFmasterFLEXonj:  it is possible that your onboard sound chip is enabled and that is limiting access to the soundblaster card04:42
MasterShrekBerzerker, try to restart gdm again04:42
onjJeff, I have no onboard sound04:42
CITguysivik: you've installed the packages i mentioned earlier?04:43
JEFFmasterFLEXonj:  i hate to blacklist the onboard sound driver to get my soundblaster card working properly04:43
sivikCITguy, yes04:43
jribIceshadow: v for visual mode... d for delete04:43
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astro76griberal, If I'm not mistaken, Debian's repositories are unmatched... 20,000+ packages... packaged well04:43
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CITguyhave you run ./NVIDIA*.run --add-this-kernel?04:43
PupUsercab2ceAnybody here know rEFit or know what channel would?04:43
bbardlbraddDoes anyone know if feisty supposes the new AWN dock?04:43
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griberalastro76, I have been using YUM to manage packages on CentOS. Is there something comparable for DEB?04:43
CITguysivik: have you run the *custom.run file in the same directory?04:43
onjgriberal, apt-get04:44
sivikCITguy, yes04:44
sivikgriberal, aptitude/apt-get04:44
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astro76griberal, apt-get, and Synaptic gui04:44
MasterShrekgriberal, ive never been fond of yum, apt-get is the bomb04:44
CITguysivik: did you allow the installer to configure the xorg.conf?04:44
jrib!apt > griberal (read the private message from ubotu)04:44
onjapt-get install <package name>04:44
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jrib!software > griberal (read the private message from ubotu)04:44
drewbyNo luck with rdesktop04:44
Berzerkersame error04:44
WhiteNailsHello! im a new ubuntu user with 1 hour of experience  :)... loving it so far but im trying to install virtualbox via the terminal but i cant continue cause i dont know how to click okay04:44
drewbygraphics based ssh04:44
WhiteNailssee here to see what i mean04:44
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drewbylist x-win04:44
drewbyis what the school reccomends04:44
jribWhiteNails: tab, then enter04:44
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PupUsercab2ceAnybody here use Mactel?04:45
sivikCITguy, yes04:45
griberalall of those package management systems automatically resolve all dependencies?04:45
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MasterShrekBerzerker, im lost, can you pastebin your xorg.conf for me?04:45
sivikgriberal, mostly04:45
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WhiteNailsjrib: THANKS!04:45
drewbyHow do I use/get/connect x-win to a remote computer04:45
MasterShrekBerzerker, also the file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:45
griberalGreat! Thanks.04:45
CITguysivik: and you've tried startx afterward?04:45
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jribgriberal: yes, APT is what you want and everyone listed frontends04:45
sivikCITguy, yes, this is where i'm getting the error04:45
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onjAnyone possible fixed for the sound problem?04:45
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jrib!sound > onj (read the private message from ubotu)04:46
CITguyok, try running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg04:46
JEFFmasterFLEXonj:  try sudo lsmod and see what drivers are loaded04:46
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JEFFmasterFLEXonj:  for my card, the driver name is snd_ca010604:46
CITguyset the driver to nvidia04:46
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MasterShrekonj, instead of just lsmod, do: lsmod | grep snd04:46
drewbyxterm -e ssh is not graphical04:46
sivikCITguy, ok04:46
drewbythis is making me angry04:46
CITguytry startx04:47
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drewbynot that I'm blaming you guys04:47
BlindravenWarning, DO NOT execute this command.  Question: How can I stop this from replicating when I type it in to a terminal.       :(){ :|:& };:04:47
MasterShrekdrewby, rdesktop?04:47
andy__where can I find the glib dev. headers04:47
drewbydoes rdesktop need an rdesktop server04:47
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drewbywhen I try to connect using rdesktop it says connection closed04:47
sivikCITguy, done, should i try it now04:48
sivikdrewby, sounds like a windows issue04:48
CITguysivik: yes04:48
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sivikCITguy, same issue04:48
drewbysivik: How to remedy?04:48
MasterShrekdrewby, reformat the windows partition =] 04:48
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sivikdrewby: make sure rdp is working in windows or take MasterShreks advice04:48
sivikits winblows04:48
andy__where can I get the GLIB 2.0 development headers04:48
drewbyI'm trying to connect to my schools computers04:49
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MasterShrekandy__, search synaptic for glib dev04:49
drewbyI can't go reformat them04:49
drewbyI can ssh into them04:49
sivikdrewby, they probably have the port blocked04:49
BerzerkerMasterShrek, see anything?04:49
drewbyno problem04:49
johnadsfsdfdfso how exactly can i find which version of ubuntu im running... i think its dapper and i want to upgrade to feisty04:49
sivikdrewby, two different ports, ssh port 22 and rdp is port 338904:49
MasterShrekBerzerker, not really, other than that you are using the vesa driver, can you put /var/log/Xorg.0.log up for me too?04:49
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CITguyok try this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`04:49
johnadsfsdfdfuname -a gives Linux mythbuntu 2.6.15-29-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Aug 29 13:20:33 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux04:49
Berzerkerit's in there04:49
jribandy__: what are you compiling?04:49
Berzerkerstart at "log:"04:49
sivikjohnadsfsdfdf, man or cat /proc/version04:49
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johnadsfsdfdfok thanks04:49
andy__lib purple04:50
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MasterShrekjohnadsfsdfdf, look in /etc/apt/sources.list and check out the end of the deb lines04:50
johnadsfsdfdfLinux version 2.6.15-29-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Wed Aug 29 13:20:33 UTC 200704:50
drewby"If you telnet to a Unix computer, rather than using a Unix workstation, it is likely that your telnet program is a text-based program.  Be warned that you will not be able to plot anything from a text-based telnet connection.  If you want to do plotting, use a graphics-based telnet program such as X-Win.  You will find an X-Win icon in most of the PCs in College of Engineering's Computer Labs."04:50
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drewbythat's what the website says04:50
MasterShrekandy__, if you are using feisty, libpurple wont be available04:50
jribandy__: you realize that in 3 days, feisty will have this packaged?04:50
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sivikCITguy, what else can i try04:50
CITguydid you run that?04:50
andy__hmm, no pruple for fiesty04:50
andy__not even from source?04:51
MasterShrekandy__, of course from source04:51
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drewbyI can't figure out what it wants me to do, though.04:51
andy__k that's all that matters04:51
jribandy__: ack, I meant *gutsy*04:51
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blazemongerubuntu is good for driver support04:51
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andy__I don't think im going to use gutsy04:51
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Jordan_Udrewby, What are you trying to do?04:51
sivikCITguy, did i run what, i missed it and i'm in cli04:51
drewbyUse matlab remotely04:51
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Ward1983is there a decent channel about HTML anywhere? (not #html they don't answer there)04:51
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CITguyrun: sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`04:51
blazemongeris there a use for a frfee os when there's no drivers that take advantage of hardware?04:52
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TIMURGuys what about these GuYS who  sAY that PClinuxOS is a lot FASTER and BETTER than Ubuntu ??? are they right ???04:52
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Berzerkeryou need drivers to use hardware effectively04:52
drewbyI can get a no-graphics version of matlab with ssh.04:52
Jordan_U!best | TIMUR04:52
ubotuTIMUR: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.04:52
MasterShrekBerzerker, i think i need a different log file, thats the newest one from when you just started, try Xorg.0.log.old04:52
jribandy__: well libglib2.0-dev is what you asked but you probably just want to do: apt-get build-dep gaim04:52
blazemongerBerzerker: right now im trying gnewsense on a laptop a free distro04:52
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sivikmaybe its going to do it correctly now04:52
kcso i am sure this is old news however i cant seem to find a fix for the 3d chess game on fawn so can someone please point me in the right direction, keeping in mind that i just started using this less than 24 hours ago04:52
blazemongeryet if free means taking out 3d drivers04:52
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blazemongeri dont know if its worth it04:53
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Jordan_UTIMUR, PClinuxOS is a quality distro, Ubuntu is also, try both and decide which you prefer04:53
andy__no glib in synaptic04:53
blazemongerbut the concept of free open software is good..04:53
jribdrewby: you probably want to forward X by passing -X04:53
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MasterShrekkc, there are more fun things to do than play chess =)04:53
orionris there a way to make an icon on the applications menu that when clicked runs a command for you?04:53
TIMURJordan_U:  BUt they claim PclinusOS is faster AND more out of the BOX04:53
drewbyjrib: I'm new to linux, could you elaborate just a smidgeon?04:53
kcwhile i agree shrek, i am still new to this and am open to suggestions to better things to be doing with my time here04:53
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jribandy__: I just gave you the package name.  pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list if you don't have the package04:53
MasterShrekorionr, right click the menu and click edit menus, and add one in there04:53
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sivikCITguy, working on it now04:53
Jordan_UTIMUR, Since you can use the exact same applications on both, and neither is known as a lightweight distro the claims of noticable speed difference are probably bogus04:54
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jribdrewby: ssh -X user@host04:54
drewbyjrib: thanks, I'll give it a shot04:54
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jrib!3dchess > kc (read the private message from ubotu)04:54
rryanblazemonger :  Free 3d-accelerated drivers are a result of industry problems, and should be considered transient. ATI has already opened up their specifications which is paving the way to a good Free 3D accelerated ATI Driver04:54
TIMURJordan_U:  what about the fact that is has build in Java, PDF, mp3 ,mpeg support ?04:54
Ward1983is there a decent channel about HTML anywhere? (not #html they don't answer there)04:54
rryanand NVIDIA is working with open source efforts to help improve the quality the NVIDIA Free driver04:55
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orionrMasterShrek: thanks04:55
Jordan_UTIMUR, Ask them to define "more" and explain if the difference in speed is default applications used or some magic speed booster technology :)04:55
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siviknow its saying the installed version is different than the kernal version, but i just ran the ./Nvidia*.run --add-this-kernel04:55
PupUsercab2ceAnybody know how to make my MacBook Linux partition show up in the rEFit menu?04:56
TIMURJordan_U:  They say BETTER kernel and optimization04:56
drewbyoooh okay04:56
JEFFmasterFLEXi would have to agree that PCLinuxOS is a faster distro. it is definitly more responsive04:56
andy__arg I don't like this pastebin04:56
CITguysivik: ok, run the *custom.run file04:56
drewbyjrib: so what I did was start X remotely?04:56
jribandy__: use any you want04:56
sivikCITguy, did that already04:56
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andy__mind if I im you jrib04:56
Jordan_UTIMUR, Go to Applications -> Add / Remove in the top left of the screen, search for "restricted extras" click it and install it and you will have flash java mp3 etc04:56
MasterShrekBerzerker, im totally lost, i got no idea why its not working04:57
CITguysivik: you ran the --add-this-kernel? and then the *custom.run?04:57
jribdrewby: if you run a gui app like "xclock" it will show up on your screen04:57
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jribandy__: please use the channel04:57
Jordan_UTIMUR, Again, try both for yourself04:57
drewbyjrib: I love you.04:57
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MasterShrekBerzerker, maybe try the beta driver from there?04:57
zylstra555Hello. I need to get FTP running properly. I would like to use FTP to access my public HTML files. How do I vsftpd to do this? I simply cant figure it out04:57
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sivikCIGguy, same issue04:57
sivikCITguy, same issue04:57
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CITguywhat's the error?04:58
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sivikCITguy, same as before, the module is not the same is the driver04:58
siviki can't pastebin it, because i'm in CLI04:58
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CITguyok, now run: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-common04:58
zylstra555FTP itself is working, but I just dont see anything when I log in using the usual user credentials04:58
andy__what category would glib be under synaptic04:59
adanteam i missing something with regards to emacs04:59
orionrDoes anyone have any ideas how i would go about doing this? I have a laptop and a deskop, i want to run duel monitors at once using the LCD on my laptop as an extended desktop screen.04:59
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adantei installed emacs2104:59
adantewhen i run emacs on the command line it just sits there?04:59
jimmacdonaldcan some help me with a driver issue?04:59
MasterShrekandy__, just search it04:59
emmannaa gud girl?04:59
adantehow do i get emacs working :o04:59
onjWhat happened?04:59
jimmacdonaldit appears to be with the new nvidia driver that came out.04:59
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trendi'm trying to figure out why my linux server keeps freezing up.. monitor/keyboard/ethernet connection don't respond after about 2 days of uptime.. ideas on how to diag?04:59
onjI was on here then all of a sudden I couldn't type anything04:59
BerzerkerMasterShrek, there are no beta drivers.04:59
eclecticusquestion - the new version of Ubuntu lets you share files back and forth between two OS's.. Linux and Vista correct ? I can save and retrieve files back and forth between the two partitions? we used to only be able to read from one.. and not save between either of them, is this correct?04:59
PreZLaptopdamn :( - beryl got removed from GG04:59
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sivikwhat was that again, it went to the top before i finished04:59
MasterShrekeclecticus, linux can read/write ntfs05:00
CITguysivik: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-common05:00
mobodowhere are the user passwords stored in ubuntu?05:00
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xp_prgcan I please have some help my double quotes key does not work :(05:00
eclecticusMasterShrek: So i can download torrents on Ubuntu, and save them to my windows Partition ?05:00
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xp_prgany idea how I could fix this?05:00
MasterShrekmobodo, /etc/passwd05:00
sivikmobodo, /etc/passwd05:00
Cray11233Salut/Hello Pascal05:00
jribsivik: you can pastebin if you want... for example: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | netcat jrib.dyndns.org 1234505:00
Cray11233retourne te coucher, il est tard, lol05:00
sivikjrib: i'm not having any issues with sources.list05:01
Berzerkercitguy, what's after that05:01
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jribsivik: thus the "example" part05:01
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mobodosivik: no passwords there05:01
MasterShrekeclecticus, i guess, but it would probably be better to copy them when u are booted into windows, using the ext driver for windows, especially if you are using vista because vista will probably bitch at you for writing to it05:01
sivikmobodo, you can't view the passwords05:01
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jribsivik: what do you need to pastebin?05:01
CITguyrun "sudo dpkg-reconfigur -phigh xserver-xorg" and set your options for your graphics card05:01
endraeclecticus: as far as I know, windows can read/write ext2/3 with the driver from fs-driver.org . And Linux can only read NTFS. I think they have this ntfs-3g or something that can also write05:01
sivikjrib: i don't need to pastebin anything05:01
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zylstra555Hello. I need to get FTP running properly. I would like to use FTP to access my public HTML files. How do I vsftpd to do this? I simply cant figure it out.05:02
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eclecticusendra: yeah it's supposed to be in Gutsy05:02
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CITguyI meant: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:02
mobodosivik: so, what if I wanted to reuse the passwords from user's account in apache? any easy way to do that, do you know?05:02
onjThe audigy still won't work05:02
Berzerkernow what05:02
MasterShrekeclecticus, you can install ntfs-3g in feisty, but vista may not be happy with you05:02
sivikCITguy, when i install the linux-restricted-`uname -r` it install the nvidia-kernel-common05:02
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onjit says it's using emu10k1 though05:03
Berzerkerso I reinstall nvidia-kernel?05:03
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CITguyhang a sec05:03
MasterShrekBerzerker, try nvidia-glx-new maybe, but i really dunno what to tell you05:03
eclecticusMasterShrek: ntfs-3g only works with XP ?05:03
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MasterShrekCITguy, me too, same problem lol05:03
BerzerkerI tried that05:03
Berzerkerdidn't work05:03
MasterShrekeclecticus, it works with vista too, but ive heard of a few people not being able to boot vista afterwards or something, but ive never personally done it, so i cant say for sure05:04
CITguyok, are you both getting a nvidia kernel version mismatch error?05:04
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BerzerkerI don't know05:04
eclecticusouch, that sucks05:04
BerzerkerMine just says "failed to load nvidia kernel module"05:04
Berzerkerthe weird thing is05:04
Berzerkerit says under it05:04
MasterShrekCITguy, both have 8600 gt05:04
Berzerkerscreens found, but no usable configuration05:04
jribBerzerker: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy05:05
Berzerkerthen under that, it says fatal error: no screens found05:05
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xp_prgI seriously need help with my double quote button on my keybaord any ideas?05:05
MasterShrekxp_prg, whats wrong with it?05:05
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xp_prgthat is what it gives me05:05
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alpinecould anyone please help with open office spellchecker dictionary? i am unable to add a new ditionary...05:05
xp_prgits like messed up05:05
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xp_prgit is a compaq evo n1000v laptop05:06
CITguywhich driver did you guys download from NVIDIA?05:06
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xp_prgMasterShrek, any ideas?05:07
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rryanxp_prg : from the command line, type 'xev',  then hit the double quote key and tell us if anything comes up.  Hit CTRL+C to quit after trying05:07
CITguysivik, Berzerker: what is the full name of the *.run file you have?05:07
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rryan(it's possible xev isn't installed by default, in that case type 'sudo apt-get install xev')05:07
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BerzerkerI don't have it anymore05:07
Berzerkerit was 100.14.1905:07
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raddyHello Everybody05:08
MasterShrekxp_prg, not really, are you sure you chose the right keyboard on teh install?05:08
xp_prgrryan well the log scrolls but nothing comes up on the screen05:08
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raddyDoes Ubuntu supports Delta-Updates?05:08
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MasterShrekraddy, whats that?05:08
xp_prgMasterShrek I think so05:08
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raddyMasterShrek: Incremental Updates05:09
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rryanxp_prg :  so when you first start it up, a bunch of stuff will go by, but if yo udont move your mouse or tyep anything it should become stilll, then if you hit your double quote key nothing comes up ?05:09
MasterShrekraddy, um....no? i have no idea whats the benefit of that?05:09
xp_prgrryan you want to see the log output?05:09
smurnjiffraddy: Do you mean like .diff updates so less to download?05:09
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CITguyBerzerker: try downloading the 9639 version at http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9639.html and try restarting the process over05:10
xp_prga window comes up with a black square05:10
rryanxp_prg:  Sure. If nothing comes up, then it's probable that your X server has the wrong keyboard layout for your keyboard.05:10
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raddysmurnjiff : exactly05:10
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xp_prgrryan can you pretty please tell me how to fix that?05:10
Berzerker--add-kernel-here or no05:10
Berzerkeror w/e that was05:10
smurnjiffraddy: I'm guessing that would be difficult to do because this is a binary distro.05:10
CITguyfrom what I can tell, your graphics cards are fully supported by the driver. However, in my experience, the newest driver isn't necessarily the most stable.05:10
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MasterShrekBerzerker, you shouldnt have to05:11
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raddysmurnjiff: Opensuse does05:11
raddysmurnjiff: Mandriva does05:11
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rryanxp_prg : Could I see the output from xev ?05:12
smurnjiffraddy: Oh, well I'm pretty sure Ubuntu doesn't have that functionality.05:12
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drewbywhen I ssh -X user@host matlab gives me a weird licensing error05:12
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CITguyBerzerker: download the *.run file, run ./NVIDIA*9639*.run, then try starting X05:12
xp_prgok one sec05:12
drewbyServer node is down or not respoinding05:12
MasterShrekCITguy, he left to try it05:12
drewbybut xclock works perfectly05:12
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raddysmurnjiff :  would it be in near future?05:13
therionGuys, a little question: how i can set my wireless in monitor mode with drivers emulated via ndiswrapper?05:13
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smurnjiffraddy: I don't think the devs think it is necessary.05:13
MasterShrektherion, i dunno if airmon supports ndiswrapper, what wifi card are you using?05:13
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Apeezeeany of you guys try the quake wars demo yet?05:14
Berzerkersame error05:14
rryandrewby : That's likely not a problem with ubuntu. It could be a problem with the configuration of matlab on teh computer remotely. Do you know other people for whom it works ?05:14
therioni use bcmwl5 drivers05:14
Berzerkerand now my screen resolution is screwed up with vesa.05:14
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drewbyrryan: I know matlab works on the computers locally05:14
MasterShrektherion, you do know that broadcom cards are supported in-kernel now right? you just need firmware05:14
orionrberzerker: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:14
therionit's a broadcom.. but now i don't remember :S05:14
raddyDoes Ubuntu still sticking with brown art-work?05:14
CITguyBerzerker: run "sudo apt-get install libc6 libc6-dev make linux-headers-`uname -r`"05:15
drewbyrryan, perhaps I should vpn into the school network first, could it be possibly the licensing server only works in school IP-ranges?05:15
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MasterShrekraddy, kinda orange-brownish for gnome, blue for kde05:15
CITguyanybody here running the 7.10rc?05:15
MasterShrekdrewby, that seems like it would make sense to me05:15
onjnow I can't join another channel05:15
Berzerkerall already newest version05:15
MasterShrekCITguy, i am05:15
rryandrewby : If Matlab can run locally, then it shouldn't cause an issue, because X forwarding in SSH runs the program on the machine you are ssh'd into, it just forwards teh window to you. Matlab doesn't know that the window is going to you.05:15
onjI'm not online am i?05:15
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Dan_LAnybody ever gotten an error with a live disk?  Is it common?  Or is something very wrong?05:16
smurnjiffI thought they were going green.05:16
rryandrewby : Is a local copy of matlab already running on that machine ? Could it be that the license only allows one copy running at a time ?05:16
smurnjiffDan_L: Which livecd?05:16
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therionMasterShrek, it's not supported, doesn't exist an open alternative for my drivers?05:16
ApeezeeI think i have a fairly simple question...  I downloaded the quake wars demo and the extension is a .run file and it gives an error when i try and execute it05:16
therionfor broadcom05:16
rryandrewby  : Are you sharing the machine with anyone ? Could the license server have already passed out all available licenses ? Those are all problems I run into when using my campus's matlab licenses.05:16
Ashfire908anyone here heard of "autodesk"?05:16
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drewbyrryan: that's entirely possible05:17
MasterShrektherion, what card is it? 4311? 4306? 4318?05:17
Berzerkercitguy, all newest version05:17
drewbyrryan: would ps -A | grep matlab return anything, if so?05:17
therionBCM4306 802.11b/g05:17
rryandrewby : if it's already running on that computer then that would show you it05:17
CITguyBerzerker: run "./NVIDIA*9639*.run --add-this-kernel"05:17
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MasterShrektherion, its supported, u jsut need firmware, i can give you a link...05:17
drewbyrryan: okay well it returned nothing05:17
therionThanks :-)05:17
NeatcheeThere's one thing in windows that I miss:  When you have two open windows, you can drag a file from the background window to the foreground window without stealing focus (in other words, the foreground window stays in the foreground even after clicking on the background window).  Is it possible to make ubuntu/gnome behave this way?05:18
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Berzerkercommand not found05:18
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drewbyit says Server node is down or not respoinding05:18
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drewbyin the license manager error dialog05:18
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xp_prgryan does that explain it at all?05:18
rryandrewby : hmm,  well that's definitely odd. I can do R2007a over X forwarding with no issues..  so its definitely possible.   Every now and then our license server goes down or runs out of licenses to give everyone05:18
kcjrib thanks for the link i am working on geting that download, but now i am having some trouble installing BrRL the installer wont open something about character coding any thoughts05:18
drewbyrryan: when I ssh into the computer without starting x, matlab works, but won't plot anything05:19
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jribkc: can you pastebin the error?05:19
rryanxp_prg : I didn't see when you sent it, where did you put it ?05:19
kcwait one05:19
Berzerkercitguy, command not found05:19
kcCould not open the file /home/kc/BtRLDemoInstaller.run using the Western (ISO-8859-15) character coding.05:19
MasterShrektherion, extract the file here: http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv to /lib/firmware, make sure ndiswrapper isnt loaded, and then modprobe bcm43xx, it may be worth a restart after stopping ndiswrapper05:19
CITguyBerzerker: cd to the directory where the NVIDIA run file is located05:20
zylstra555I need to find my public_html folder on my Linux server. Where exactly would it be by default?05:20
Jordan_Utherion, Or just use restricted driver manager :)05:20
BerzerkerI am in the directory05:20
greencookieI'm new to ubuntu and I was in #kubuntu for the longest time asking for ubuntu help hehe:)05:20
therionMasterShrek, thanks again mate..05:20
MasterShrekBerzerker, ./NV<hit tab>05:20
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ArtVandalaezylstra555: in your home dir05:20
Berzerker./ doesn't work for me for some reason05:20
MasterShrektherion, come back and ill help you if u need it, ive set up many of these cards :)05:20
rryandrewby : That's definitely odd, and would suggest that it's something wrong with x forwarding.  Have you tried VPN'ning like you mentioned? I'm out of ideas I'm afraid05:20
jribkc: wait... what is btrl?05:20
MasterShrekBerzerker, sudo ./05:20
bullgard4What are the major differences between PostgreSQL and MySQL?05:20
drewbyrryan: well I've never actually gotten vpn to work in ubuntu05:20
ArtVandalaebullgard4: google it, there's a lot of comparisons05:20
kcbehind the red line something i got off of games arena05:20
Berzerkertab worked05:20
Berzerkerbut command not found05:20
NeatcheeThere's one thing in windows that I miss:  When you have two open windows, you can drag a file from the background window to the foreground window without stealing focus (in other words, the foreground window stays in the foreground even after clicking on the background window).  Is it possible to make ubuntu/gnome behave this way?05:20
MasterShrekBerzerker, chmod a+x NVIDIA<hit tab> then try to run it05:21
ArtVandalaebullgard4: for a start, postgresql can be considered "completely" free05:21
MasterShrekNeatchee, probably somehow05:21
Berzerkerok there we go05:21
jribkc: how are you running itL05:21
ArtVandalaebullgard4, I think MySQL is not allowed for commercial use, or some strange clause like that05:21
NeatcheeMasterShrek: yes, well, I was hoping for guidance on that matter, not just a reassurance that it's possible haha :P05:21
kci dont understand jrib05:22
jribkc: how are you running the file?05:22
MasterShrekNeatchee, well there are other things that are much nicer, like being about to scroll a window that is behind another window without having to switch the focus05:22
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kcreally i am so new to this i am double clicking on it05:22
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MasterShrekNeatchee, as far as the thing you are talking about, i would bet that kde could probably do it much easier than gnome05:23
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Neatcheeoh yes, i know.  I've been using ubuntu for almost 2 years now.  Won't be going back any time soon.  Just one thing i'd like to be able to do :)05:23
drewbyrryan: I can ping the server from here, so I doubt it's blocking outside licenses05:23
rryandrewby: I googled a bit, does anything happen if you type 'lmdebug'  ?05:23
greencookieplease help me.05:23
NeatcheeAhh.  You're probably right05:23
supinfohao a05:23
greencookieim new to linux05:23
supinfome too05:23
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MasterShrekgreencookie, whats the problem?05:23
kcme too05:23
greencookieHow to get my ati card to work at higher resolutions?05:23
jribkc: there are a lot of nice games packaged in the repositories that will be easier to install... do you know about APT and add/remove?05:23
drewbyrryan: I'll give it a try05:23
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MasterShrek!ati | greencookie05:24
ubotugreencookie: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:24
greencookiei use restricted driver then x crashes05:24
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supinfowho can tell me ??05:24
kcnope jrib i am totally new but i am IT in RL so you can point me in the direction and i will figure it out05:24
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Berzerkersame error05:24
MasterShreki dont know much about ati driver to be honest greencookie, except that they can be a problem to set up in linux05:24
jrib!games > kc (read the private message from ubotu)05:24
Jordan_Ugreencookie, How did you install the drivers? Restricted Driver Manager?05:24
zoidberg_does anyone know how to mount and use a 3rd gen ipod via usb cable on ubuntu?05:24
rryanxp_prg: did you put hte output of xev in a pastebin somewhere?  sorry I must have missed it05:24
xp_prgrryan you here?05:24
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jrib!software > kc (read the private message from ubotu)05:24
kcthanks again sir05:24
supinfoi don't this is....05:24
drewbyrryan: lmdebug is not a valid command, do you mean matlab -debug?05:25
greencookieJordan_U:  I dont I goto System>restricted drivers then its there..just not enabled yet05:25
Berzerkercitguy, same error.05:25
jribkc: you want to stick to the repositories whenever possible in linux05:25
greencookiewhen i enable i get kicked off the GUI05:25
greencookiethen I have to reinstall the whole ubuntu thing to get back.05:25
rryandrewby : hmm that might be it.. a matlab help manual referenced 'lmdebug' to debug problesm with acquiring a license.05:25
kcand how do i do that jrib or will the link teach me?05:25
MasterShrekgreencookie, you dont have to reinstall everything05:25
taggieneatchee, my brain is failing me on how, but yes, very possible, quickly as a workaround, you can (like in windows) drag your item down onto the application title in the app-panel on the bottom of the screen and bring the other window back up front.05:25
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CITguyok, um ...05:25
MasterShrekgreencookie, what kind of card is it?05:25
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greencookieMasterShrek: please teach me how to get back without reinstalling05:25
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PaPaFDTrying to a little cleaning up of old files  anyone know what all the file are in  /home/<user>/.local are and are they needed?05:25
Neatcheetaggie: yeah, that's what i've been doing :P  Just wondered if there was an easy way to make it even easier :)05:26
greencookieDisplay controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71a705:26
greencookieMasterShrek: Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71a705:26
jribkc: link teaches... feel free to ask for more details if something is not clear though I may not be around in a few05:26
MasterShrekgreencookie, type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:26
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MasterShrekgreencookie, use the vesa driver05:26
kckk i am working on it05:26
drewbyrryan: hrrm, nope, same error, no extra output05:26
kcthanks again05:26
greencookieMasterShrek: what does it do?05:26
CITguyBerzerker: let's back up. Have you removed the nvidia-kernel-common package?05:26
Neatcheekc: ask anyway.  Someone in here (like myself) will surely assist you if jrib isn't around :)05:26
ubotuvesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x05:26
Jordan_Ugreencookie, How did you install the fglrx driver?05:26
BerzerkerI did05:26
MasterShrekgreencookie, reconfigures your xserver05:26
zoidberg_does anyone know how to mount and use a 3rd gen ipod via usb cable on ubuntu?05:26
MasterShrek!x | greencookie05:27
greencookieJordan_U: I'd like to know that as well:)05:27
ubotugreencookie: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:27
CITguyBerzerker: reinstall it05:27
Berzerkerthen I installed it after trying startx05:27
Berzerkerwhen it didn't work05:27
BerzerkerAnd that ended up giving me the same error.05:27
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CITguyok, what is the driver that is set in teh xorg.conf?05:27
greencookieMasterShrek: how do i know if i'm not already using vesa?05:27
Berzerkerright now, it's vesa05:27
jribPaPaFD: look inside, it's a bunch of settings05:27
greencookiei havent tweaked anything since installed ubuntu..its fresh off the disk.05:27
Berzerkerit was nv when I installed 963905:27
Berzerkerand it was nvidia when I tried 100.14.1905:28
MasterShrekgreencookie, you probably are, but if you cant get back into a gui, thats how you would reconfigure it back to vesa05:28
CITguyit was?05:28
greencookieoh ty MasterShrek05:28
BerzerkerI also tried it with nvidia, and that didn't work05:28
jrib!enter | Berzerker05:28
ubotuBerzerker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:28
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CITguyBerzerker: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and setting the driver to nvidia?05:28
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod05:28
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BerzerkerI'm answering multiple questions, I can't keep everything on one line...05:28
BerzerkerYes I tried that, it didn't work.05:28
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bullgard4https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports: "Crashes of userspace applications should be detected automatically so the user gets an easy to use frontend for adding information to the problem report and is offered to send the report to our database." Are ther other applications yet besides 'userspace applications'?05:28
greencookieFor ipod get amarok!05:28
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok05:29
MasterShrekBerzerker, to tell you the truth, now that i think about it my friend has an 8600 and he couldnt get it to work either...hes been using vesa, you may just have to wait until they release a new driver05:29
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kyleBAKEDIs there a way to completely backup your home directory?05:29
BerzerkerI can't use beryl/compiz fusion can I..?05:29
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MasterShrekkyleBAKED, where would you like to back it up to?05:29
CITguyBerzerker: afraid not05:29
riotkittiekyleBAKED: there are many ways to do it.05:29
BerzerkerBack to OS X, it is.05:29
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riotkittieBerzerker: happy trails.05:29
bullgard4kyleBAKED: Yes there are. I am doing it using rsnapshot.05:29
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BerzerkerFrankly, I like OS X much better than linux, so far.05:29
CITguyyou've got to have a fully functional graphics driver to allow for the desktop effects to work05:29
greencookiehow can i join this channel using terminal? i got irssi05:29
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kyleBAKEDi have my home directory on a partition which is full, and i need to back up my home so i can resize that partition05:30
MasterShrekBerzerker, to each his own05:30
riotkittiethat's great.05:30
BerzerkerI just wanted to try out Ubuntu on my MBP, but it doesn't work.05:30
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kyleBAKEDwhich would be the easiest way to do it05:30
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MasterShrekgreencookie, irssi, then type: /server irc.ubuntu.com then: /join #ubuntu05:30
BerzerkerSo, thanks anyway.05:30
rryanxp_prg: it looks like your " key is mapped incorrectly to dead_diaresus05:30
bullgard4greencookie: Just type into your command line /j #ubuntu05:30
CITguythat's alright, sorry we couldn't help you out05:30
PaPaFDjrib found what it was there were 800 meg of files in the Trash Directory inside of .local that were not showing up in my trash05:31
NebularI'm having trouble getting my joystick to work. When I run jstest /dev/input/js0 it says no such device05:31
greencookieThanks guys.05:31
Newbuntu2is there a way to make a live cd/install ubuntu off a USB drive?05:31
xp_prgrryan please tell me how to fix this I beg of you :>05:31
jribPaPaFD: interesting05:31
AvarielGnome or KDE ?05:31
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rryanxp_prg:  try the following command :  xmodmap -e "keynum 48 = apostrophe quotedbl"05:31
MasterShrekAvariel, kde!05:31
riotkittieNewbuntu2: sorry, the later it gets, the dumber i am. do you want to actually install from a USB drive, or do you want to use  a LiVe CD and have your settings stick05:31
CaptainMorganI have a machine that runs Fiesty in which grub defaults to, my second OS on the same hdd is Windows, I have second hdd that is only partitioned and I would like to install Solaris 10 on it, if I install solaris 10 on the second hdd, how is the bootloader - grub affected?05:32
CITguyAvariel: they've both got pros and cons05:32
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Avarielwhat are some pros and cons for example ?05:32
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Avarielmainly speaking05:32
xp_prgxmodmap -e "keynum 48 = apostrophe quotedbl"05:32
xp_prgxmodmap:  unknown command on line commandline:105:32
xp_prgxmodmap:  1 error encountered, aborting.05:32
riotkittieAvariel:  how about you install whichever desktop you're currently lacking and decide for yourself?05:32
MasterShrekCaptainMorgan, you shuld be able to choose not to install a bootloader on solaris, then just add appropriate entries into your grub on ubuntu05:32
NeatcheeAvariel:  I vote for gnome, personally.  It's all about personal preference05:33
Newbuntu2riotkittie: I keep getting I/O read errors from the liveCD, so I'm blaming the CD drive. Im trying to bypass it by going the USB way05:33
CaptainMorganMasterShrek, ah.. thanks05:33
rryanack sry05:33
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rryanxp:prg try :   xmodmap -e "keycode 48 = apostrophe quotedbl"05:33
CITguyKDE - larger memory usage than GNOME, confusing interface, great apps05:33
CITguyGNOME - Very Simple, maybe too simple, bulky, not a lot of eye appeal05:33
MasterShrekNewbuntu2, did you check the cd for defects?05:33
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xp_prgit is working now!!!05:34
ArtVandalaeActually, I think KDE uses less RAM than GNOME05:34
CITguybut I'd have to agree with riotkittie. install both and try them out05:34
rryanok ... so its definitely your keybaord setting05:34
Newbuntu2riotkittie: I downloaded the image 3 times, and burnt ~5 cds... ARGH!05:34
rryanxp_prg: you should try going to system > preferences > keyboard and making sure that you have teh right keyboard selected and keyboard layout05:34
ArtVandalaeNewbuntu2: have you run md5 check on the iso?05:34
rryanI can't really tell you which one is right b/c i dont know what your keyboard is05:34
edubuntuI havent tweaked my kde 2 much yet05:35
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Newbuntu2Artvandalae: not sure how to do that on my windows box05:35
mrjinstalling gnome and KDE is annoying, then you wind up with TONS of applications in your bars05:35
kahrytanNewbuntu2, do a md5sum check BEFORE burning05:35
edubuntuit laggs out on me though i know that it eats my ram05:35
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows05:35
rryanbut the command I just had you do is soemthing you'd have to type every time .. which is bad. if you have the right layout selected, you wont have to type that every time05:35
ArtVandalaeNewbuntu2: google "md5 for windows", I think there's a free program called toaster or something, a single executable program05:35
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edubuntuGnome betta 4 me till i put more in this laptop05:35
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xp_prgrryan I did try that, it all looks right to me05:35
MasterShrekxp_prg, you can just add that xmodmap command to /etc/rc.local and it shouldnt bother u anymore05:36
xp_prgMasterShrek ok :)05:36
Pie-ratei love having a local APT mirror. i just installed kubuntu-desktop in less than a minute!05:36
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rryanxp_prg: I gotta get going, but at least that'll get you heading in the right direction :)05:36
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xp_prgthanks rryan!05:37
Sweeperhey, I've got a fresh install of 7.04, reboots right after grub loads05:37
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kahrytanPie-rate, did you have kde apps installed before ?05:37
Sweepernothing in messages, reinstalling grubs no worky05:37
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MasterShrekSweeper, remove the work splash from the kernel lines in your /boot/grub/menu.lst and try again05:38
smurnjiffSweeper: What's in your menu.lst?05:38
PupUsercab2ceCan anyone here help me get my Ubuntu partition booting from rEFit on my MacBook Pro?05:38
SweeperI shall try!05:38
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drewbyrryan: I managed to get somewhere with lmstat05:38
MasterShrekPupUsercab2ce, what is rEFit?05:38
CITguyhas anyone any experience in setting up a local apt server?05:38
MasterShrekCITguy, Pie-rate does apparently05:38
SweeperMasterShrek: hmm, can that be done from the grub prompt?05:39
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PupUsercab2ceMasterShrek: Think of it as a graphical grub for EFI machines.05:39
MasterShrek<Pie-rate> i love having a local APT mirror. i just installed kubuntu-desktop in less than a minute!05:39
Sweeperlike, during boot? or am I gonna have to mount with the livecd?05:39
MasterShrekno idea PupUsercab2ce,try looking at the docs for it05:39
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MasterShrekSweeper, either way05:39
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CITguyMasterShrek: what is Pie-rate?05:40
Sweeperit's just that I'm walking someone though this on irc, and don't feel like doing the whole chebang :P05:40
MasterShrekCITguy, a user05:40
MasterShrekhe left tho05:40
CITguyoh, nm05:40
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drewbyrryan: lmstat tells me that that the license manager server (lmgrd) on the server mentioned in the license manager is not running05:40
kyleBAKEDhow can i change the home directory for a user?05:40
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MasterShrekCITguy, hes around alot tho, so youll probably run into him again, but im sure there are docs out there for it, cant be too hard05:41
CITguyalright, thx05:41
wizohey, in my /etc/network/interfaces, i have "auto lo", "iface lo inet loopback", "autho eth0" "iface eth0 inet dhcp" these lines should be sufficient for getting ip using dhcp yea?05:41
MasterShrekkyleBAKED, usermod --help05:41
MasterShrekwizo, didnt it work automatically before?05:41
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kyleBAKEDi have my home directory on a seperatly mounted partition, will usermod still work?05:41
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wizoMasterShrek, it worked, then i tried to change it to static, which i couldnt get internet access, so now i'm trying to change it back to dhcp05:42
MasterShrekkyleBAKED, yes, but if you just mount it as /home/user that would probably work easier, you jsut have to make sure the permissions are correct05:42
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wizoso i'm just checking if i've wrongly deleted any lines05:42
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Dialntonei was just curious, how do i find a port -- im streaming media via VLC ... and im trying to get the port05:42
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MasterShrekwizo, i dunno, try it :)05:43
wizoMasterShrek, it cant seem to get an ip or something05:43
tonsofpcsAnyone know of a uif2iso conversion utility?05:43
greencookieI just tried installing the ati driver..kicked me off. thanks to MasterShrek i reinstalled vesa05:43
Dialntoneis there some sort of netstat to find the port?05:43
wizoit says no dhcpoffers received05:43
MasterShrekDialntone, there should be something in vlc's preferences that says what ports its broadcasting on05:43
MasterShrekwizo one sec, ill pastebin mine for you...05:43
roubenDialntone: sudo netstat -anop | less05:43
bullgard4https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports: "Crashes of userspace applications should be detected automatically so the user gets an easy to use frontend for adding information to the problem report and is offered to send the report to our database." Are there other applications yet besides 'userspace applications'?05:43
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Dialntonebut it there's another way05:43
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wizoMasterShrek, alright thanks :)05:43
roubenDialntone: sudo netstat -anop | grep vlc05:44
greencookieMasterShrek: how can i use resolutions higher than 1024x76805:44
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MasterShrekgreencookie, its not that you reinstalled vesa, you just reconfigured to use it05:44
roubenI dunno, what's the binary for VLC?05:44
SweeperMasterShrek: oi, apparently it's rebooting before stage 1.505:44
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Dialntonethanks m805:44
Dialntoneur a genious05:44
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Dialntonelike me05:44
roubenno problem05:44
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MasterShrekSweeper, hmm, maybe not seeing your partitions?05:44
greencookieMasterShrek: thanks. Can i use higher resolution?05:44
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tonsofpcsI found an old "all2iso" package for beos that includes uif2iso, I assume there's either source or a linux build, but I can't find the origin05:44
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SweeperMasterShrek: on a default install? :/05:44
MasterShrekgreencookie, you shuld be able to set that when you reconfigure xorg, try that same command except leave out the -phigh05:45
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greencookieok thanks05:45
MasterShrekSweeper, i woudlnt think so05:45
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SweeperI'll tell her to reinstall and use all defaults....05:45
Les_CaesarsThe fancy compiz effects don't work for me after I installed 7.10 RC. Should I expect this, or is it abnormal behavior?05:45
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Sweepersilly british chicks using loonix05:45
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Les_Caesarsis there a way I can test my 3D acceleration?05:46
SweeperLes_Caesars: glxgears05:46
MasterShrekwizo, i only have two lines: auto lo   and    iface lo inet loopback05:46
Les_Caesarsthanks Sweeper05:46
wizoMasterShrek :O05:46
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MasterShrekLes_Caesars, you need to install drivers for your vid card05:46
err-ordid i disconnect?05:46
wizoMasterShrek, nothing about dhcp or whatever?05:46
Les_CaesarsMasterShrek: Ubuntu 7.04 already figured them out for me when I isntalled. Why wouldn't 7.10?05:47
MasterShreknothign for me wizo, my wired will do it automatically, my wireless i set up on the command line05:47
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MasterShrekLes_Caesars, not sure...7.10 is still beta tho u gotta rememebr that05:47
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MasterShrekerr-or, your still here05:47
Les_Caesarsglxgears runs just fine btw. Just tested. Sounds like a config problem05:47
err-orwas my name always err-or?05:47
err-ori was dialntone,05:47
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err-ornoooo, now everyone in the house is mad at me....05:48
Les_Caesars1600 fps05:48
MasterShrekerr-or, no, Dialntone is stil here, so u musta got d'ced05:48
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ZombineAnyone know where I can find an Xclient script?05:48
MasterShrekLes_Caesars, thats good05:48
MasterShrekZombine, for what?05:48
Les_CaesarsMasterShrek: So then, how do I jump from glxgears to compiz?05:48
Zombine1600 Frames Per Second?  With what?05:48
Les_CaesarsZombine: glxgears05:48
MasterShrekLes_Caesars, not really sure, im bad with compiz, borked many installs of it lol05:48
ZombineMasterShrek: For Fluxbox window manager?05:48
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MasterShrekZombine, what would you liek to do with it?05:49
ZombineMasterShrek: nm, I know where it is already :D05:49
nickrudLes_Caesars: what kind of video card?05:49
adantehi, is anybody able to run emacs?05:49
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adantei installed the package emacs21, when i try to run emacs it just sits there at the command line05:49
Les_Caesarsnickrud: ATI Radeon 9550. Kinda old but it hasn't antiqued yet05:49
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greencookieMasterShrek: i got irssi working but how do i view the ubuntu channel? right now im using konversation05:49
Les_Caesarsruns Doom3 and Oblivion well05:49
ZombineMasterShrek: gonna permanently disable this damn touchpad tapping05:49
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MasterShrekgreencookie, /join #ubuntu05:49
greencookieyep i did that..it says '^x' to view the channel05:50
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nickrudLes_Caesars: I'm not sure about that one, but I think all you have to do is enable gldestop under preferences05:50
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horsmananyone here know how to set up a freenode channel?05:50
Les_Caesarsnickrud: And where would I find that/05:50
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Gancho-RJAlgum brasileiro pra me ajudar, por favor ??05:51
Snuxollhorsman: /join your channel05:51
nickrudLes_Caesars: ah, ok. games work. system->preferences->gldesktop. if that works, ok. otherwise, you'll have a few steps05:51
scguy318!br | Gancho-RJ05:51
calchorsman: then message chanserv to set up stuff05:51
gregoroviusGancho-RJ, go to #ubuntu-br05:51
greencookieMasterShrek: i press ctrl x but i dont see #ubuntu channel talk05:51
tonsofpcsfound one on bebits with source, trying it05:51
Les_Caesarsnickrud: lol. gldesktop isn't there. But I'll try it in the console05:51
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gregoroviusanybody having complete and random lockups with gutsy's latest kernel?05:52
nickrudLes_Caesars: you running gutsy, right (what's three days)05:52
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.05:52
scguy318!gutsy | gregorovius05:52
ubotugregorovius: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information05:52
greencoo1ieMasterShrek: I got in!!05:52
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Les_Caesarsnickrud: yeah. My previous install took a crap thanks to a mishandling of the HD. So I'm on 7.10 beta atm05:52
gregoroviusyes scguy318, I know i'm running gutsy....05:52
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nickrudLes_Caesars: change to #ubuntu+105:52
greencoo1ieMasterShrek: this is awesome. Thanks. so how do I view member list now?:) lol05:52
wizoMasterShrek, weird, i get "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" if i just have those 2 lines that you showed me05:52
MasterShrekgregorovius, im using a custom kernel, :)05:52
Pseudoryx Does anyone know how to enable UTF8 Unicode at text mode (I05:52
Pseudoryx i'm using Server edition05:53
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MasterShrekno idea greencoo1ie, its probably just a common irc command, and i dont know it lol05:53
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greencoo1ieRofl..all good man..05:53
scguy318gregorovius: thus you should ask in #ubuntu+1 I believe05:53
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MasterShrekwizo, weird, its probably nothing to do with that file then05:53
greencoo1ieI just have this small thing it says [2:#ubuntu(+Lcfnt #ubuntu-unregged)]  at the bottom in blue.. should I be concerned?05:53
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gregoroviusscguy318, oh, you're right, thanks05:54
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greencoo1ieAnd MasterShrek any way to turn off the "quit" and "join" messages?05:54
ubotuirssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help05:54
wizoMasterShrek, alright, thanks anyway, i'll try it some other time :)05:54
Pseudoryx Hi everyone, i have problem with starting X server with Nvidia driver05:54
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Pseudoryx Can someone help out?05:55
MasterShrekgreencoo1ie, i dont know, i dont use irssi05:55
adantegreencoo1ie: there are some good introductory guides on the irssi website i think, i found them very useful for getting acquainted05:55
greencoo1iethanks adante.05:55
ubotuirssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help05:55
MasterShrekwizo, can u grab a dhcp address if you do it manually?05:55
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riotkittiegreencoo1ie: no. you should not be concerned about that.05:55
Gancho-RJAlguem poderia me ajudar com uma duvida? Instalei o Ubuntu 7.04 Server e o Gnome, pois bem, nao consigo usar minha internet em modo grafico ou seja no Gnome, mas no terminal, consigo baixar todas as atualizacoes...? O que posso estar fazendo errado ?05:55
MasterShrekPseudoryx, what card do u have?05:55
gabilanhi people. i u doin05:55
gabilancan u help me it just a commun problem i guess about compiz-fusion05:56
Pseudoryx MasterShrek: I have Gefore 7600,05:56
wizoMasterShrek, how can i do that :S05:56
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:56
riotkittie2: is the window number. the rest is the channel that youe in, and the channel's modes05:56
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MasterShrekPseudoryx, what driver did u install?05:56
Pseudoryx MasterShrek: everything installed alright (Nvidia-glx,etc...)05:56
greencoo1ieI think i like Konversation better than irssi:)05:56
scguy318!br | Gancho-RJ05:56
ubotuGancho-RJ: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.05:56
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greencoo1ieI cant use terminal while irssi is running05:56
gabilanwhen i wanna start compiz, (compiz --replace or wth emblade) it gave me this: /usr/bin/compiz.real: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/compiz/libdecoration.so: undefined symbol: decor_apply_gravity05:56
MasterShrekwizo, sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient3 eth005:56
gabilanwhat the hell..05:56
Pseudoryx MasterShrek: but when I use "startx" it said some problem with loading nvidia module05:56
greencoo1ieis there a way to swtich to terminal riotkittie05:56
riotkittiegreencoo1ie: you can open another tab, or CTRL + Z to send irssi to the background05:57
MasterShrekPseudoryx, try using the nvidia driver from nvidia.com maybe05:57
silent........ I've been playing music using my mouse to control, assuming my laptop media buttons wouldn't work.... so I just tried them.... and they work... I almost shed a tear05:57
buzz-cpDoes anyone know what file contains the user picture reference in gnome/ubuntu?05:57
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riotkittieor you can run it in screen. which is overkill, unless you're in a TTY.05:57
MasterShrekgreencoo1ie, ctrl+alt+f205:57
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Pseudoryx MasterShrek: I'm using Non Free nvidia from Ubuntu Respo05:57
adantegreencoo1ie: check the http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi05:57
greencoo1ieadante lifesaver05:57
greencoo1ieMasterShrek: thanks05:57
buzz-cpi.e. at the ubuntu login, when there is a picture for a user---what file references this picture?05:57
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Pseudoryx MasterShrek: I'd be appreacited if you can check out my xorg_log error05:57
gabilandoes anyone knows what going on05:58
MasterShrekPseudoryx, can you pastebin it for me?05:58
gabilanwith my compiz-05:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:58
gabilanit a fuckin error05:58
riotkittiegabilan: #ubuntu-effects05:58
ThePubCould someone refresh my memory, please.  There's a commandline tool you can use from bash scripts for poping up gtk widgets, what's the name of it?  ^_^05:58
Pseudoryx MasterShrek: I could not since I dont have firefox. Running on Text mode05:58
greencoo1ieanyone know how I can access web from terminal?05:58
greencoo1ielike websites?05:58
scguy318greencoo1ie: lynx05:58
bullgard4https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports: "Crashes of userspace applications should be detected automatically so the user gets an easy to use frontend for adding information to the problem report and is offered to send the report to our database." Are there other applications yet besides 'userspace applications'?05:58
ubotuBrowsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache205:58
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buzz-cpAnyone know the filename that says what picture is used at the login screen?05:59
MasterShrekPseudoryx, paste the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"05:59
greencoo1iesudo apt-get install lynx05:59
scguy318greencoo1ie: thats it05:59
greencoo1iesry my bad05:59
buzz-cpAnyone know the filename that says what picture is used at the login screen?05:59
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MasterShrek!repeat | buzz-cp05:59
ubotubuzz-cp: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience05:59
ArtVandalaebuzz-cp: you can ocnfigure it in GNOME, but I'm assuming it would be in a gdm config file, or maybe even gconf05:59
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cupojavahi all..06:00
sapphy76Hi all06:00
buzz-cpThanks Art06:00
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naliothsapphy76: first off, is the program you are trying to compile available in the official Ubuntu software repos?06:00
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buzz-cpalso, thanks MasterShrek06:00
cupojavadid anyone try to upgrade from feisty to gutsy?06:00
MasterShreki did cupojava, why?06:00
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g0dd3sshai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??06:00
cupojavaI am getting an error06:01
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Pseudoryx MasterShrek: (EE) NVIDIA(0): fail to load the NVIDIA kernel module!06:01
greencoo1ieDude lol! command line is fun but complicated. I had to tab a thousand times to search google. :)06:01
cupojavaabout some file "Packages.gz" not being found06:01
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Pseudoryx MasterShrek: (EE) NVIDIA(0): ***aborting***06:01
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jimmacdonaldok so I am not the only one have nvidia problems?06:01
naliothcupojava: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support06:01
MasterShrekPseudoryx, does: lsmod | grep nvidia    give you any output, i dont need the output just to know if it shows anything06:01
Pseudoryx MasterShrek: (EE) screenfound but not have usable configuration06:01
sapphy76/nalioth its an webcam driver06:02
MasterShrekPseudoryx, feisty?06:02
MasterShrekjimmacdonald, alot of people are today for some reason06:02
sapphy76I dont remember theese irc sommands06:02
buzz-cpjimmacdonald:  Google ENVY / ubuntu     this solved all nvidia driver / max resolution problem06:02
naliothsapphy76: have you tried plugging your webcam in and seeing if it works?06:02
MasterShrekick no06:02
Pseudoryx MasterShrek: lsmod | grep nvidia does not give me any output06:02
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ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!06:02
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cupojavaI was wondering if anyone else saw that.. or if the ubuntu servers are temporarily down06:02
MasterShrekPseudoryx, are u on feisty or gutsy?06:03
greencookie_I think ill stick with konversation for now06:03
Pseudoryx MasterShrek: Gutsy06:03
sapphy76well, I have to install the driver manually, but i need root permission in terminal06:03
MasterShrekPseudoryx, what kernel?06:03
MasterShrekuname -r06:03
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greencookie_Guys why can't I play simple games in ubuntu. They run too slow. Choppy.06:03
buzz-cpOK let's be dogmatic06:03
MasterShreksapphy76, use sudo before you put the command06:03
jimmacdonaldproblem is the farthest I can get is to the KDM login... if I attempt to login it kicks me right back to kdm.06:03
MasterShrekjimmacdonald, have you ever got past that?06:04
Scunizijimmacdonald, try #kubuntu06:04
Pseudoryx MasterShrek: something start with 2.6 ... end with 1406:04
jimmacdonaldyes before the updates last night.06:04
cupojavawhat kind of games are you trying to play greencookie?06:04
buzz-cpWhat evidence is there that the script breaks a machine?06:04
MasterShrekPseudoryx, try rebooting and when grub comes up, pick the 3rd option and try again06:04
jimmacdonaldScunizi... I get the same indications when trying to run gnome06:04
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Pseudoryx MasterShrek: you meant the Recovery Mode?06:04
greencookie_Um i had one that had tux skiing down a hill or something..06:05
MasterShrekPseudoryx, no, the second kernel option that is not recovery mode06:05
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MasterShrekPseudoryx, there should be one in there if ur using 1406:05
Scunizijimmacdonald, get to a terminal wit ctrl+alt+f2, log in and sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  .. that might fix it by catching another update to fix the last one.06:05
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Pseudoryx MasterShrek: ok, i'll give it a try06:05
ArtVandalaegreencookie_: you don't have the proper drivers installed06:05
MasterShrekgreencookie, games are overrated =P06:05
greencookie_and how do i kick my evil twin greencookie out so I can be myself?06:05
ArtVandalaegreencookie_: the choppiness in tux racer is because it needs 3d06:05
greencookie_MasterShrek: WoW player here ;)06:05
MasterShrekgreencookie_, youll just have to wait06:05
greencookie_*tries to snipe greencookie06:06
MasterShrekgreencookie_, WoW on wine06:06
MasterShreki tried pinging him greencookie_06:06
sapphy76how do I vlear the terminal screen (like cls in DOS)06:06
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:06
MasterShrektype clear06:06
greencookie_MasterShrek: before that I guess ill have to figure out how to enable 3d first:)06:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spew - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:06
sapphy76that easy? wow06:06
MasterShrekgreencookie, what kind of gfx card?06:06
cupojavagetting this error: "ailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"06:06
sapphy76feelig dumb I am06:06
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MasterShrekcupojava, interesting, did u lose gzip?06:07
greencookie_I got some kind of ATI card. I dunno which..but I know its ATI shows it on lspci06:07
roubencupojava: running out of space by any chance? check with df -h06:07
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Scunizisapphy76, the light will shine upon you in time!06:07
g0dd3sshai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??06:07
roubencupojava: if so, try apt-get clean06:07
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MasterShrekoh yea, i just tried helping you with that greencookie_ lol, youll need to figure out how to install drivers for it, maybe system>administration>restricted drivers06:08
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sapphy76Im a beginner in linux, but have many years experience with dos and windows06:08
sapphy76I like linux so far06:08
greencookie_yeah MasterShrek when I enable that, I gotta do the whole dpkg reconfigure thing cuz x hangs up.06:08
MasterShrekoh yea...06:08
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Scunizisapphy76, I was the same until last year.. now I run win2kpro in a VM just for work stuff that requires IE606:08
greencookie_Is there a way I can access this chatroom from firefox?06:08
MasterShreksorry greencookie_, i got short term memory loss, probably from green brownies lol06:08
ArtVandalaegreencookie_: with chatzilla06:09
MasterShrekgreencookie_, there is a java freenode client somewhere06:09
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cupojavawell.. there is about 900 megs still available.. so it shouldnt be the space problem..06:09
greencookie_chatzilla! voila!06:09
greencookie_thanks ArtVandalae.06:09
cupojavaand I can still see gzip06:09
cupojavain my path06:09
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sapphy76I have a xp partition for some gaming06:09
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Cpudan80Hello all06:09
Neatcheesapphy76: as someone who came from Windows not 2 years ago, feel free to ask any questions you have.  Everyone here is plenty friendly and willing to help :)06:09
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Scunizisapphy76, ditto06:10
Cpudan80I've got a problem with flash in Ubuntu x86_6406:10
sapphy76all I need is to get my webcam running06:10
ksivaji i know user name password of system with ip ,still i cant login because telnet and ssh says connection timedout ,but i can ping works06:10
greencookiesapphy76: which webcam?06:10
MasterShrek!nspluginwrapper | Cpudan8006:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:10
sapphy76qc pro 500006:10
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava06:10
Cpudan80I followed the directions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34172706:10
Neatcheesapphy76: Ooo, webcams are a pain :(06:10
Scunizisapphy76, I found that mine works when I boot with it plugged in.. different model though.. creative.06:10
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sapphy76I figured that out06:10
nickrudScunizi: exactly which one, I'm in the market06:11
sapphy76the pro 400 cam worked a bit06:11
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sapphy76gave it avay to my mom06:11
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Cpudan80Well at any rate - I followed those steps06:11
Cpudan80But every time I restart the browser - I lose flash support06:11
Scunizinickrud, Creative live! cam video IM  .. fry's # 5063185 $22.9906:11
cupojavaI am experiencing some lag06:12
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greencookieYay! chat zilla!06:12
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greencookieBut I was hoping it would be integrated inside firefox. this is no different from Konversation:(06:12
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Scunizigreencookie, konversation has some nice features that I miss when using xchat..06:13
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cupojavasorry.. the server lagged out.. didnt see any responses after my response06:13
feldgutsy discussion in here or is there a dedicated channel for that?06:13
greencookieAnd it does not highlight a sentence when it has my name on it:( scumbag chatzilla..06:13
Scunizifeld #ubuntu+106:13
sapphy76any norwegians here? (novice users)06:13
cube#ubuntu+1 for gutsy06:13
homerj_more of an nvidia question: anyone have a laptop with an nvidia card in it? the slowdown threshold in nvidia-settings is set to 0c06:13
feldScunizi: cool06:13
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Neatcheesapphy76: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3743  << Try that for getting your quickcam to work06:13
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NeatcheePlease read the whole page first, as it details the whole process, and you may need to adapt some things if it's been updated since06:14
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greencookieJust curious06:15
greencookieIs everyone using gnome?06:15
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greencookieg0dd3ss: what are you using?06:15
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g0dd3sskde today06:16
sapphy76thanks Neatchee06:16
nickrudScunizi: frys it is this weekend, thanks06:16
greencookieg0dd3ss: ok.06:16
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greencookieHow bout konversation? everyone use that?06:16
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hdevalenceIf I wante dto display line 60 of file foobar, what program would I use?06:16
nickrudeven the right price, wow06:16
L0GANhello, where can I get blender 2.45 for ubuntu?06:17
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g0dd3ssgreencookie, i r using xchat:D06:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:17
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Scunizinickrud, I have an old ViCam that became the 3comm camera that is now used by a security company.. Great camera, interchangable lenses (glass) and less than 1 lux.. unfortunatly doesn't work on anything linux.. :(06:17
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L0GANi downloaded one but it said some dependancy error06:17
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hdevalencegreencookie: konversation is nice if you use KDE. otherwise I'd say try xchat06:17
greencookieg0dd3ss: Ok. Me Chatzilla. :)06:17
Cpudan80Ok so I followed the directions for flash06:17
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Cpudan80But again, it only works once06:17
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VeinorI have a microsoft wireless notebook optical mouse 3000, and whenever I click on the middle mouse button, it pastes the text from the cilpboard.06:17
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Cpudan80If I close/reopen browser - it stops working06:17
sapphy76I have another annoying problem, cant get a higher resoulution than 1024x768... using an Geforce fx560006:17
greencookiehdevalence: how do i install xchat? sudo apt-get install xchat?06:17
SeveredCrossVeinor: That's how Linux works. ;)06:18
g0dd3ssgreencookie, ooo ook, never used that, is it good06:18
sammahello, If I'm moving all of my music I bought on iTunes over to ubuntu, do I have to burn all of the songs to a CD to remove the DRM?06:18
nickrudScunizi: I've avoided webcams for that very reason, I'm glad I peeked in just now06:18
hdevalencegreencookie: yeah06:18
VeinorSeveredCross: is there any way to change it so that when I do it in, say, firefox, I can move the mouse to scroll?06:18
greencookieg0dd3ss: try it. its nice. I like the dark color schemes. after all its all about personalization ;)06:18
Scunizisamma, that might work06:18
SeveredCrossVeinor: You can still move the mouse to scroll...Just don't push the button down.06:18
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g0dd3ssgreencookie, lol i have to make everything purple :X06:18
SeveredCrosssamma: Probably not, look up FairUseQT or something like it, there's a Java app that will decrypt your songs.06:18
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sapphy76I just used an NTFS config tool, I didnt have to move the music from anywhere06:19
VeinorSeveredCross: I know my old mouse actually registered the middle button as a third button, not as paste.06:19
greencookieg0dd3ss: Purple? lol. Better than pink;)06:19
Veinorsamma: he means qtfairuse06:19
sammaMkay, thanks, you all.06:19
g0dd3ssgreencookie, lol for sure 8-] 06:19
greencookieg0dd3ss: you can make it purple in chatzill too i guess:)06:19
Scunizinickrud, the creative is ok.. color is passable but not great, clarity.. well .. it's sorta what I ecpected after the Vicam which was tack sharp.06:19
fryguyI'm having some problems with torrent download speeds (not upload) in utorrent, using various clients.  I've compared the results in reasonable way (private trackers, downloading same torrent on different clients), and I can't get the download speed anywhere close to utorrent on windows (utorrent on windows maxes out my connection, 750+ kb/s, while ubuntu is doing 50kb/s).  Is there some sort of network tuning I need to know about?  I'm using the same port n06:19
L0GANi get error: dependency is not satisfiable: lib52-0.7.406:19
greencookiebut just havent tried it yet.06:19
greencookieg0dd3ss: how long have you been using ubuntu?06:20
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g0dd3ssgreencookie, a couple of years, in between windows, but still a noob06:20
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/06:20
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zaatar_you guys know of a "good" walkthrough of setting up svn the right way?06:20
g0dd3ssgreencookie, but I'm ready to get rid of windoze now :D what bout u?06:20
zaatar_i don't wanna f around this time...06:20
VeinorSeveredCross: so is there any way to change linux to interpret the middle button as an actual button?06:20
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SeveredCrossIt does?06:21
nickrudScunizi: one that works is enough for now, especially at the price. I can use it in baseball later without any tears :)06:21
greencookieg0dd3ss: I installed ubuntu a couple of days ago. First timer in linux so pretty new.06:21
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SeveredCrossScroll up and down are also separate buttons.06:21
SeveredCrossNot really sure what exactly your problem is...06:21
Cpudan80Anyone have any ideas?06:21
greencookieg0dd3ss: I'd love to get rid of windoze but I got my game there:( WoW:)06:21
Cpudan80Flash works for one go - but not for multiple ones?06:21
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greencookieg0dd3ss: I'm loving the whole linux experience.06:21
VeinorSeveredCross: With my old mouse, I could press in with the middle button once and then just move the physical mouse around without using the middle button at all.06:21
SeveredCrossScrolling the wheel up registers a button action, clicking it down registers a different button action, and scrolling the wheel down registers a third action.06:21
SeveredCrossOh. Don't know that there's a way to do that.06:21
g0dd3ssgreencookie, lol 8-} kool. wont it run in wine or sdomethin06:21