[12:03] <ThePub> Aaron`: you shouldn't, it's that simple.
[12:04] <santander> unagi : caps get bad attention ;-)
[12:04] <Aaron`> my brother told me to come to this mirc internet window to get help
[12:04] <santander> at least, in my experience :p
[12:04] <unagi> but its attention nontheless
[12:04] <MasterShrek> E-mu, ive seen that before, but i have no idea how to fix it
[12:04] <santander> ;-)
[12:04] <MasterShrek> Aaron`, linux is crap compared to windows, you dont want it
[12:04] <Stevethepirate> Your brother, by suggesting linux, sounds like he got all ur families 'clever genes'
[12:04] <E-mu> MasterShrek does that mean it cannot access the CD image?
[12:04] <Ishakabibble_> hi guys and gals, I'm having a problem with the update manager. It keeps telling me to upgrade Compiz, but the weird thing is that every time I install the upgrade, the update manager still keeps on telling me to upgrade Compiz even though I have just done an upgrade. Does anyone know what the matter could be?
[12:04] <Aaron`> i want linux
[12:04] <riotkittie> linux wants you too, Aaron`
[12:04] <E-mu> cause dsl gives me a message it dropping me down to a shell because it cannot find the image
[12:05] <cbox> anyone help please???
[12:05] <Aaron`> but my pc has too many programs installed already
[12:05] <MasterShrek> E-mu, i dont think thats waht it means, but im not sure exactly, googling it would be your best bet
[12:05] <E-mu> thanks
[12:05] <MasterShrek> i gotta run every1, good luck ill be back later tonight :)
[12:05] <MidnighToker> Aaron`: linux will clear the disk for you ;)
[12:05] <Esteth> Ishakabibble_: That's a known bug with amaranth's repos. Simply remove the repo from your software sources after installation
[12:05] <boselecta> Aaron`:  do you actually use the stuff you have installed?
[12:05] <Aaron`> my pc is realllly slow anyway, but i paid quite a lot for it a while back. it's dell, so its good isn't it?
[12:05] <riotkittie> Aaron`: if you have at least 4GB free space, you're good to go
[12:05] <santander> okay MasterShrek
[12:05] <Aaron`> boselecta: i use microsoft works, norton antivirus and firewall and other programs
[12:05] <joshjosh> Aaron`, You don't need antivirus or firewalls with linux
[12:06] <santander> hi, i earlier installed ubuntu 7.04 desktop and i needed to ad a module for extra nic via 'sudo modprobe 3c59x', after that the nic showed in ifconfig. now i've installed ubuntu 7.04 server and i did again 'sudo modprobe 3c59x' , and it shows in lsmod, but my nix doesnt show in ifconfig, what should i try?
[12:06] <ppl_can_b_kool> Aaron`: Joshjosh is a liar
[12:06] <Aaron`> riotkittie: i have 2 blank dvds so i can have nearly 10gb of space
[12:06] <Winball> Aaron` Your in no need of those when using linux ,)
[12:06] <ppl_can_b_kool> he's trying to h4x you i think
[12:06] <ppl_can_b_kool> omg
[12:06] <Aaron`> but my other programs need anti virus
[12:06] <boselecta> Aaron`: right. so if the "other programs" are nothing special, you'll be fine with linux.
[12:06] <Aaron`> why doesn't ubuntu
[12:06] <cafuego> Why is #ubuntu turning into troll central?
[12:06] <Aaron`> Because it's AFRICAN
[12:06] <Aaron`> LOL.
[12:06] <riotkittie> ppl_can_b_kool: simmer down.
[12:06] <MasterShrek> santander, linux-modules maybe, run aptitude and hit the / key and search for modules
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: the way the file system is in ubuntu
[12:06] <joshjosh> ppl_can_b_kool, I thought this channel was for helping people, not being a lame troll. Go elsewhere, douche.
[12:06] <santander> okay MasterShrek i'll try :-)
[12:06] <ppl_can_b_kool> I made a single statement that I thought was funny, and you call me a douche. Not nice.
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: i suggest you stay on topic.
[12:07] <ppl_can_b_kool> I'm genuinely here to help people.
[12:07] <Aaron`> that was a joke
[12:07] <riotkittie> cafuego: i'm thinking school let out for summer like 8 months early, somewhere, maybe
[12:07] <Aaron`> sorry
[12:07] <patbam> hi, i'm having some trouble figuring out how to mount an external usb drive. it's showing up in syslog as being " Attached scsi disk sdb", but it's not showing up in /media
[12:07] <gnomefreak> joshjosh: that is uncalled for
[12:07] <Aaron`> anyway, so why don't i need antivirus? i have 2 installed right now to be safe
[12:07] <patbam> sorry, kernel log
[12:07] <boselecta> Aaron`: how old are you?
[12:07] <Esteth> Aaron`: Two antivirus at once is a bad idea, really
[12:07] <Aaron`> 22
[12:07] <joshjosh> ppl_can_b_kool, why scare people from linux? and it wasn't funny. it was lame.
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: the way ext file systems are they are harder and not as popuylar as windows fs
[12:07] <astro76> !virus | Aaron`
[12:08] <ubotu> Aaron`: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:08] <Aaron`> esteth: i like to be really safe, so i have norton 360 with firewall and then mcafee and then zone alarm
[12:08] <ppl_can_b_kool> joshjosh: That's entirely opinion. Anyway, this isn't the place for a childish argument.
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ppl_can_b_kool: dont continue it at all
[12:08] <Aaron`> i don't want my documents hacked, i do emails and stuff that are private
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ppl_can_b_kool: if you need help ask for help if you are giving help than continue
[12:08] <ppl_can_b_kool> gnomefreak: Will do. :)
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: its safe
[12:09] <Aaron`> but what about my other stuff
[12:09] <Aaron`> like microsoft works
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: on linux?
[12:09] <boselecta> Aaron`: you're more likely to have your emails hacked on windows than linux. and besides unencrypted email is not exactly private anyway.
[12:09] <Aaron`> i write my documents in that maintly
[12:09] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, www.openoffice.com
[12:09] <patbam> any hints on that drive?
[12:09] <ppl_can_b_kool> Aaron`: There are open replacements for office applications.
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: than use oopenoffice
[12:09] <dc905> guys, whats the 'name' of the remove programs app ? i lost it from my menu :P
[12:09] <ppl_can_b_kool> For example, OpenOffice. It doesn't get much more open.
[12:09] <riotkittie> there are alternatives to microsoft works under linux. open office being one.
[12:09] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, sorry, openoffice.org
[12:09] <santander> erm okay, how do i jump to next result in find in aptitude?
[12:09] <riotkittie> you can install open office under windows also
[12:09] <Aaron`> yeah but i don't want to change office softawre to just install ubuntu
[12:10] <boselecta> Aaron`: why?
[12:10] <Aaron`> i want to use ubuntu and my other programs at once
[12:10] <Winball> dc905 try gnome-app-install
[12:10] <Comrade-Sergei> my wireless is acting like it has no drivers installed.. how do i get them and install them?
[12:10] <astro76> Aaron`, if you used MS Office you might have an argument, but I guarantee OpenOffice is nicer than Works
[12:10] <DrGizmondo_> whats the position on Ubuntu security? do i need to bother with anti virus and a like
[12:10] <cafuego> Aaron`: Well, that's a problem then. Linux runs Linux software, not Windows software.
[12:10] <Aaron`> ppl can be kool, when you say open ofice, does that mean it's open security
[12:10] <riotkittie> Aaron`: you may be able to run Microsoft Works under WINE but i am not sure.
[12:10] <ppl_can_b_kool> Aaron`: If you insist on clinging to Windows applications, there is wine.
[12:10] <Aaron`> wait
[12:10] <endo> I can't seem to get flash working very well in opera/firefox. Always geeking out and needed to refresh the page. Any fixes?
[12:10] <Aaron`> all i want is basically what everyone has
[12:10] <DrGizmondo_> sorry
[12:10] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, "open security?"
[12:10] <boselecta> i don't thing Aaron` can count on being able to get Wine going
[12:11] <cafuego> drgizmondo: On internet facing servers you need a firewall yes, on a desktop box behind nat, don't bother.
[12:11] <Aaron`> i want to install ubuntu linux and use it with all my other programs
[12:11] <Aaron`> like i have a link to ubuntu in the start menu
[12:11] <DrGizmondo_> and anti virus
[12:11] <cafuego> drgizmondo: I thought antivirus was for mail servers that handle mail for windows clients ;-)
[12:11] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, ubuntu (and/or linux) is not  a 'program'
[12:11] <Winball> and ms office
[12:11] <santander> unagi: you were right, aaron gets a lot of positive attention now :p
[12:11] <Aaron`> why isn't it?
[12:11] <dc905> Winball, wow --- @5megs , thats big!! :P   but apt-get intall'ed and good too go.. ubuntu 7.10 is nice =)
[12:11] <Aaron`> you install the cd and run it?
[12:11] <Aaron`> run then install*
[12:11] <riotkittie> it'd be lovely if we could stop being condescending towards people in here because they choose to buy hardware that isnt open, or use MS OSes/apps. granted most people aren't doing it, but a lot of people seem to be doing it lately, and it's grating.
[12:12] <MidnighToker> because ubuntu is a full operating system, a microsoft replacement, a state of mind.
[12:12] <cbox> hi hi, can someone help me with a small problem?
[12:12] <MidnighToker> not a user-app
[12:12] <Aaron`> i thought it was like a sort of alternative to windows, like a different theme kinda
[12:12] <Aaron`> well, more than a theme
[12:12] <astro76> Aaron`, you should really have your brother explain more, perhaps
[12:12] <Winball> dc905 What? I wouldn't know if 7.10 is nice
[12:12] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, i'd possibly show your brother a copy of the chat log too.
[12:12] <boselecta> Aaron`: can you name other programs that run from within windows, but are other alternatives to windows?
[12:12] <boselecta> i'm trying to understand here
[12:12] <dc905> Winball, i recommend it!  compiz built in.. what a killer setup
[12:12] <Aaron`> astro76: i haven't spoken to him in 2 months, i don't think i'll be talking to him ever again really
[12:13] <Comrade-Sergei> has anyone a HP DV9000 series laptop with ubuntu on iT?
[12:13] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, linux and windows both do roughly the same job, but they do it all completely differently. windows programs generally wont work on linux and vice vera
[12:13] <Winball> dc905: Bah I hate compiz :thumbsdown:
[12:13] <Aaron`> boselecta: well there's that firefox alternative to internet explorer
[12:13] <musashi> i got a dv2000
[12:13] <musashi> :(
[12:13] <boselecta> OK that's not the question though.
[12:13] <dc905> Winball, you dont like eyecandy? or just compiz ?
[12:13] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi was it difficult to install ubuntu?
[12:13] <Aaron`> firefox is to IE as what ubuntu is to windows
[12:13] <Aaron`> a
[12:13] <Aaron`> a different program
[12:14] <boselecta> so why would you expect ubuntu to run from inside windows?
[12:14] <Winball> dc905 I dont like eyecandy, its useless. All default themes and black background for me
[12:14] <Aaron`> bosolecta: you install firefox in windows
[12:14] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, not with the installation of the OS, but with some of the other things like wireless internet and such
[12:14] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, like did you have to play with xorg.conf before you could boot to it
[12:14] <Aaron`> you install ubuntu in windows
[12:14] <El> hola
[12:14] <dc905> Winball, too each there own.. my desktop is a sexy thing :P
[12:14] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, i did with my friends PC
[12:14] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, what wifi card have you got?
[12:14] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, Broadcom
[12:14] <El> alguien que hable espa?ol...?
[12:14] <boselecta> but  firefox is to IE as what ubuntu is to windows
[12:14] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, damn
[12:14] <Aaron`> people are trying to give me viruses by saying open secuirty office suites and uninstall my anti virus programs
[12:14] <Aaron`> it took me a long time to set them both up, now people just tell me saying uninstall them
[12:14] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, i just got the wireless working like 5 minutes ago
[12:14] <boselecta> you don't install firefox in IE, so why install ubuntu in windows?
[12:15] <riotkittie> ok, i call troll.
[12:15] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, know how to do a intel abgn card
[12:15] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, you dont know what you mean by 'open'
[12:15] <dc905> Aaron`, you CAN install ubuntu IN windows if u use a virtual machine software l..
[12:15] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, but with my friends pc i had to edit the xorg.conf
[12:15] <Aaron`> Maybe i should just cut to the chase
[12:15] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, not a clue :(
[12:15] <Aaron`> i read this text thing called how to be a hacker. and it said that i need linux to go on
[12:15] <Ishakabibble_> Is there any kind of Ubuntu podcast around?
[12:15] <Aaron`> i thought linux was like a hacking suite?
[12:15] <gnr> anyone else had the problem with twinview, windows maximise to both screens
[12:15] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, what did you have to do with that with the wireless, i had to screw with that b/c linux dosent like my video card
[12:15] <astro76> oh it gets better :o
[12:15] <riotkittie> Aaron`: can you go troll somewhere else, please?
[12:16] <dfletcher> this has got to be a troll :)
[12:16] <Aaron`> riotkittie: troll?
[12:16] <boselecta> i think so
[12:16] <dc905> aarong, you can run a hacker suite in windows using vmware too
[12:16] <Aaron`> wtf is a troll
[12:16] <Esteth> gnr: Yes, i solved the problem by installing compiz. You can disable all the effects if you want.
[12:16] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/  -it will tell you *everything* you need to know
[12:16] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, i had to do alot of stuff, but only cause im new to linux. someone else prolly could have done it in less than 4 days ._.
[12:16] <Aaron`> what's vm ware
[12:16] <dc905> Aaron`, you should go try vmware.. google it
[12:16] <astro76> !vmware | Aaron`
[12:16] <ubotu> Aaron`: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[12:16] <dc905> come back when u have it mastered ;)
[12:16] <Aaron`> err
[12:16] <Aaron`> multiverse? repository?
[12:16] <Aaron`> seriously
[12:16] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, im not exactly new to linux but ive never had to deal with this crap before
[12:17] <dc905> seriously
[12:17] <Aaron`> all i want is to get linux installed to try this book out
[12:17] <Winball> Just do it
[12:17] <boselecta> then use the live CD
[12:17] <astro76> !install | Aaron`
[12:17] <ubotu> Aaron`: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:17] <Aaron`> yeah i'm trying to understand how to install it on windows
[12:17] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, yea, i didnt really do linux before for the same reason
[12:17] <ppl_can_b_kool> Aaron`: It's not that hard. I'm sure the people here would be more than willing to take your hand a guide you through it.
[12:17] <dancios> i've got problem with X crashing and hanging. radeon 9250 driver radeon
[12:17] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, but we are using it in class so i gave it another go
[12:17] <Aaron`> i just want a program called ubuntu in the start menu
[12:17] <Aaron`> and then i click and it runs ubuntu
[12:17] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, what was your problem, again?
[12:17] <dc905> aaron - u need vmware
[12:17] <boselecta> Aaron`: it doesn't work like that. run the Live CD.
[12:18] <dc905> dont make me say it again, i will ping yo to death
[12:18] <CPrompt^> hi.  was wondering if someone would look at this menu.lst file and tell me if it is correct for the splashimage section before I reboot
[12:18] <Aaron`> ARGGH
[12:18] <CPrompt^> http://pastebin.com/m44dbeff6
[12:18] <santander> MasterShrek only think i finf that loks alike is linux-restricted-modules
[12:18] <Aaron`> why can't you people just tell me what i need to know
[12:18] <Winball> Aaron` You should also considder ubuntu wubi
[12:18] <notgod> MasterShrek: any other kernel/boot params I can try tweaking? like is there a noagp option or something?
[12:18] <dc905> can someone kick him? :P
[12:18] <boselecta> i just did. run the live CD. no installing required.
[12:18] <Aaron`> all i want to do is install ubuntu
[12:18] <santander> Aaron`: wubi is great, you don't need to know anything, it does all by itself
[12:18] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, my wifi, my sound and my crappy video drivers...
[12:18] <Aaron`> what is wubi?
[12:18] <Winball> dc905 did you get my msg?
[12:18] <mc44> !wubi | Aaron`
[12:18] <ubotu> Aaron`: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[12:18] <blayde> Aaron`, Ubuntu needs complete control of it's hardware so you'll have to emulate hardware w/ vmware, qemu, etc
[12:19] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, my sound is still not working properly either...
[12:19] <ppl_can_b_kool> !wubi
[12:19] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, it works sometimes but not all the time
[12:19] <astro76> Aaron`, http://www.google.com/search?q=wubi
[12:19] <Aaron`> please
[12:19] <Aaron`> seriously
[12:19] <Esteth> Aaron` VMware will let you do that, but i think you have the idea wrong. Ubuntu is like windows. You use ubuntu instead of windows, not in windows
[12:19] <Aaron`> maybe i've got it wrong
[12:19] <Aaron`> ubuntu is a program, yeah?
[12:19] <PF|WSTP> Is there a way on Server that I can change permissions to list the contents of a dir via HTTP?
[12:19] <astro76> !ubuntu | Aaron`
[12:19] <ubotu> Aaron`: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[12:19] <gnr> oooer i installed compiz, not it wont detect my other monitor :o
[12:20] <dancios> i've got problem with X crashing and hanging. radeon 9250 driver radeon. The resul is that i cannot stop-reset X with combination A:T+CTRL+BACKSPACE or escape to console. dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 . ii  libc6          2.5-0ubuntu14  GNU C Library: Shared libraries
[12:20] <Aaron`> oh lord
[12:20] <Aaron`> brb
[12:20] <dc905> !php5
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <boselecta> Esteth:  Aaron` knows that firefox is to IE as what ubuntu is to windows. he's trolling
[12:20] <Pelo> gnr,  ask in #ubuntu-effects or in #compiz-fusion , they'll be able to help you out with this
[12:20] <riotkittie> Pelo: just. say. no.
[12:20] <PF|WSTP> Is there a way on Server that I can change permissions to list the contents of a dir via HTTP?
[12:20] <Pelo> riotkittie,  you don'T think I should ?
[12:21] <mistone_> PF|WSTP: why not use FTP?
[12:21] <MidnighToker> pf in your apache config add +Indexes to Options
[12:21] <Esteth> boselecta: Oh, ok.
[12:21] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker where's the apache config
[12:21] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : if you ssh into the server you can do dir
[12:21] <santander> anyone: i've modprobed the right modules for a nic, it shows in lsmod, but not in ifconfig, what should i try?
[12:21] <mistone_> or ssh
[12:21] <PF|WSTP> I want this over HTTP for a reason
[12:21] <riotkittie> Pelo: oh go for it. you are good at what you do, and seem to have the patience of a saint.
[12:21] <PF|WSTP> >_>
[12:21] <dc905> Winball, get MY msg?? :P
[12:21] <ThePub> PF|WSTP: it's less an issue of permissions and more an issue of services.  http is for web pages, you might want to look into setting up a web dave server though.
[12:21] <MidnighToker> PF: i assume its /etc/apache2/httpd.conf  -unsure, i dont use Ubuntu on the server
[12:21] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker where's the apache config
[12:21] <Demortes> Good god, someone help me.
[12:22] <Demortes> lol
[12:22] <musashi> gl Comrade-Sergei, im actually in class so i gotta go
[12:22] <Comrade-Sergei> my mouse!
[12:22] <Pelo> riotkittie,  in here I can always tell ppl that I have to go , that helps a lot with the patience issue
[12:22] <Aaron`> right back
[12:22] <Blindraven> Demortes, whats up?
[12:22] <Aaron`> look, all i want is to install this ubuntu
[12:22] <Demortes> Wrong channel, gutsy, sorry
[12:22] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : then you are going to have to use server side scripting to do it  (PHP, Perl, etc)  or don't put an index.html page in that directory
[12:22] <Aaron`> i don't need another operational system
[12:22] <ppl_can_b_kool> Aaron`: welcome back.
[12:22] <neverblue2> does Gutsy have LTS ?
[12:22] <Aaron`> i have windows, that's all i need on my dell, right?
[12:22] <boselecta> then you don't need ubuntu
[12:22] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, that  is what ubuntu is.
[12:22] <brobostigon> hi, i have put my kubuntu machine into reccovery mode as it woodent boot, and constantly keeps showing io-error hdc sector 0, during boot, do i need to run fsck,and how do i do that??
[12:22] <Aaron`> is ubuntu ok on dells
[12:22] <neverblue2> !gutsy
[12:22] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[12:22] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^, there isnt an index there
[12:22] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^ it says "you dont have permissions to access /dir/ on this server"
[12:23] <Snuxoll> Aaron`: Yes
[12:23] <nickrud> lol, probably
[12:23] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : then you need to ssh into that directory and change the permissions.  Is this a web server or local?
[12:23] <Snuxoll> Dell sells machines with Ubuntu preinstalled if thats any clue
[12:23] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^ web and local
[12:24] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^ the dir is /var/www/stuff/
[12:24] <brobostigon> hi, i have put my kubuntu machine into reccovery mode as it woodent boot, and constantly keeps showing io-error hdc sector 0, during boot, do i need to run fsck,and how do i do that??
[12:24] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, whats the guide you're folling that says you need linux?
[12:24] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : then change the permissions to 750 and it should work fine
[12:24] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^ ok
[12:24] <graelb> hi
[12:24] <Blindraven> chown 777 *.*
[12:24] <notgod> anyone have any idea how to make a server qith a quadro4 cars boot properly? Currently it garbles the screen entirely. The system boots, but I can't interact with it.
[12:24] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^ didnt work. I even did 777 and it didnt work
[12:24] <Pelo> brobostigon, do a search in the forum for the exact error msg you get
[12:25] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, what version of apache?
[12:25] <Pelo> brobostigon, www.ubuntuforums.org
[12:25] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, 2.2.4
[12:25] <graelb> I'm trying to run driftnet on my local machine, but it only shows pictures from my local machine... go figure, right? So is there a way to run it on my router, and see the output on my local machine?
[12:25] <PF|WSTP> er
[12:25] <PF|WSTP> 3
[12:25] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, 2.2.3
[12:25] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : stupid question but are you in the correct directory?
[12:25] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, it wont show you a dir index unless you specifially enable it in the apache conf.
[12:25] <CheeseGardener> Is 10.9% contingous files bad for ubuntu?  is that too much fragmentation?
[12:25] <notgod> no x, plain text interface. Screen gets corrupted (wavy lines and dots across the screen)
[12:25] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, ok I need to know how to do that then
[12:25] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : chmod 750 html_dir -R should work
[12:25] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, where did you get the info from?
[12:25] <lamego> CheeseGardener, you dont need to care about fragmention on linux filesystems
[12:26] <Pelo> graelb, are the pictures on the other computers in a shared folder ?
[12:26] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, if you create a webpage called index.html will it show it?
[12:26] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, I got it from a disk check.
[12:26] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : don't forget the -R so it is recursive and changes the files and subfolders
[12:26] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, just a sec
[12:26] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, it is on /home
[12:26] <graelb> Pelo: no, driftnet is supposed to pick up stray packets as people on the network are browsing the web
[12:27] <graelb> well, stray packets of pictures
[12:27] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, what disk check? -sorry, new to ubuntu but intregued by the idea of none-contiguous files. i keep getting told there is a) no need and b) no way to defrag on linux
[12:27] <graelb> at least, that's the impression i got
[12:27] <Pelo> graelb, ah , don'T know the prog I was assuming something else
[12:27] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, infact, what file system?
[12:27] <lamego> MidnighToker, there is no need to defrag on linux
[12:27] <graelb> Ok, the real question is can i use everything that's installed on my computer, but run the program on another machine?
[12:27] <santander> i need help configuring a second nic in my pc
[12:27] <lamego> that indication, is just a statistical indication, with no major impact on performance
[12:28] <CheeseGardener> MidnightToker, it's EXT3
[12:28] <MidnighToker> lamego, is there no software to defrag fragmented files?
[12:28] <lamego> MidnighToker, there is a defrag utility, but it is not required
[12:28] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, if I put an index.html, it just shows the text I put in the index
[12:28] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker not the files in the dir
[12:29] <Pelo> MidnighToker, ext3 does not need defragmenting, it works differently then FAT*  file systems which got ppl used to defrag
[12:29] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, ok, so the permissions are fine, infact i'd make a point of setting them back to 755 at miimum
[12:29] <MidnighToker> minimum*
[12:29] <MidnighToker> Pelo, k
[12:29] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, done
[12:29] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, just check it can still see the index
[12:29] <cafuego> PF|WSTP: So apache is being good, the "Indexes" option is disabled on that dir, which means it won't show a list of files.
[12:29] <lamego> MidnighToker, ext3 and other linux FSs are not affected by fragmentation, it does exist but it does not affects the performance
[12:29] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, step two is to locate your httpd.conf... usually in /etc/apache2
[12:30] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker ok
[12:30] <MidnighToker> lamego, i find it impossible to believe it doesn't affect performance, infact due to the way my HDD works, it HAS TO.
[12:30] <astro76> !defrag
[12:30] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[12:30] <cafuego> MidnighToker: You can probably do it via .htaccess instead of setting it globally.
[12:30] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, the /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty
[12:30] <MidnighToker> cafuego, good point, ta
[12:31] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, hang on
[12:31] <lamego> MidnighToker, if you do not believe, please read about it, that is a very common question, replied on several forums and articles :)
[12:31] <Hilikus> is there any software like bootcamp or anything to organize yourself, todo list, reminders, all that crap, but downloadable? so that i can install it in my server?
[12:31] <[ASG] > smileglasses
[12:31] <CPrompt^> PS|WSTP : that's not a good sign
[12:31] <Pelo> lamego,  please pay attention , this issue was resolved a while back
[12:31] <Pelo> nvm
[12:31] <cwgannon> can somebody please tell me how to make my video files open with vlc by default?  it's not in Preferred Apps like i thought it would be
[12:32] <Esteth> Hilkus: I beleive Evolution (ships with ubuntu) does what you want, allthough i don't use it much
[12:32] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, try a file called ".htaccess" that contains the line "Options +Indexes"
[12:32] <cafuego> cwgannon: Right clock a video file, choose Properties > Open With
[12:32] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker in the dir?
[12:32] <MidnighToker> yup
[12:32] <PF|WSTP> ok
[12:33] <CheeseGardener> so wait, do I really have 10.9% contingous files?  or will that number go down???
[12:33] <Pelo> cwgannon,  assuming that vlc is installed ,    select a video file, right click,  properties,  select the open with tab,  add it , either from the list or form the  field at the bottom you only need to type vlc not the whole path
[12:33] <CheeseGardener> Can EXT3 file fragmentation go down a lot?
[12:33] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hi short (simple?) question, I have some KDE apps in Gnome and want to control their behaviour ie double click and single clikc -- how do I do it ? what control prg do I need to use? thanks
[12:33] <patbam> hi, when i attach an external usb drive i get "attached scsi disk sdb", and it shows up in the device manager. but i can't figure out how to access the contents
[12:33] <santander> hi, i earlier installed ubuntu 7.04 desktop and i needed to ad a module for extra nic via 'sudo modprobe 3c59x', after that the nic showed in ifconfig. now i've installed ubuntu 7.04 server and i did again 'sudo modprobe 3c59x' , and it shows in lsmod, but my nix doesnt show in ifconfig, what should i try?
[12:33] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, i say you need to defrag, linux or not. if the files are fragmented then it means the drive head is having to move to re-seek. that HAS to slow things down.
[12:33] <gnr> Anyone here had problems with twinview maximising to both screens? anyone manage to fix it?
[12:33] <cwgannon> cafuego & Pelo: vlc isn't listed, so i enter that as the command, but that only opens vlc (and not the file i'm trying to play)
[12:33] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker nope
[12:34] <Pelo> CheeseGardener,  the system will take care of that as you go , don'T worrry about it , it will go down
[12:34] <lamego> MidnighToker, do not say what you don't know about, you do not need to defrag with EXT3 !!!
[12:34] <Hilikus> Esteth but i dont want an application, im running a server, i want something to set up an online service
[12:34] <lamego> MidnighToker, before starting with theoretical generic advices, read something, please
[12:34] <cafuego> cwgannon: You can choose a custom command and enter 'vlc' there.
[12:34] <Hilikus> something than runs on apache
[12:34] <Pelo> cwgannon,  you need to add vlc to the open with tab,  after that , that type of video file will open with vlc,  you need to do it for each file type
[12:34] <MidnighToker> lamego, give me a link to read then
[12:35] <cwgannon> cafuego & Pelo: vlc isn't listed, so i enter that as the command, but that only opens vlc (and not the file i'm trying to play)
[12:35] <cafuego> Hilikus: There is any number of freely available groupware suites
[12:35] <Pelo> MidnighToker,  I beleive the ext3 article on wikipedia has a nice summery
[12:35] <CheeseGardener> Pelo, oh, so the system will defrag itself as it goes along?  The reason I ask is, when I went to gutsy, I had to force the computer to shut down sometimes when it froze, until I was able to fix it.  But will EXT3 fix any fragments on its own?
[12:35] <MidnighToker> Pelo, ta
[12:35] <cafuego> cwgannon: You may need vlc "%s"
[12:35] <lamego> MidnighToker, google.com: linux defrag
[12:35] <gnr> having troubles with twinview, windows maximise to both screens... any1 manage to fix this?
[12:35] <Esteth> Hiikus: ohh, sorry, i misunderstood. I don't know of any downloadable productivity suites myself, for installing on servers
[12:35] <Hilikus> cafuego but i want to run them on my server. most of them are free but THEY host it
[12:35] <boselecta> cwgannon: did you install VLC the right way? or by hand?
[12:36] <astro76> MidnighToker, http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
[12:36] <cafuego> Hilikus: Not at all, lots of free self-host ones.
[12:36] <cwgannon> cafuego: just tried it with no luck
[12:36] <boselecta> because i have it installed and it turns up automatically in my open-with list
[12:36] <cwgannon> boselecta: installed via synaptic, will try a reinstall now though
[12:36] <Hilikus> cafuego so i cant find them, can you give me names?
[12:36] <Pelo> later folks
[12:36] <MidnighToker> astro76, thanks
[12:37] <boselecta> my open-with vlc command is wxvlc
[12:37] <cafuego> Hilikus: zimbra (needs fairly big box, not 100% open, but nice) or IMP or Groupoffice or phpgroupware
[12:37] <Hilikus> cool, thanks
[12:37] <cafuego> Hilikus: have a search on www.freshmeat.net
[12:37] <markelhas> hi ppl, yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp.
[12:37] <Hilikus> cafuego what are they called?
[12:37] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, so linux will defrag itself more or less?
[12:37] <Hilikus> organizers?
[12:37] <cafuego> Hilikus: search for groupware there
[12:37] <Hilikus> ok
[12:37] <boselecta> cwgannon: my open-with vlc command is wxvlc
[12:37] <zaggy-nl> Is it normal for the livecd to take ages and ages to load?
[12:37] <P_Kable> What tool should I use to check a hard drive completely (sectors and all of that...)
[12:37] <boselecta> zaggy-nl: comparatively, yes
[12:38] <cafuego> Hilikus: server based ones are all designed to provide shared calendar/contacts/mail for multiple users.
[12:38] <astro76> CheeseGardener, yeah an that article points out that files can be re-arranged on the fly
[12:38] <markelhas> !wireless
[12:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:38] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, not that i know of, but then everyone seems to be telling me i'm wrong so i wouldn't pay me any attention ;)
[12:38] <zaggy-nl> boselecta, I'm installing it on a 256MB RAM laptop, cd drive keeps making noise, taking forever!
[12:38] <cafuego> Hilikus: A few of these are packaged for Ubuntu as well, so you cna install them via aptitude.
[12:38] <boselecta> zaggy-nl: that will take a while. is it doing anything on the screen?
[12:39] <MidnighToker> astro76, thanks for the link but it tells me linux FS's dont get fragmented. i have info here saying one is, so the link doesn't really help
[12:39] <cwgannon> boselecta: wxvlc doesn't work either after a reinstall
[12:39] <zaggy-nl> boselecta, yes, I just started the installation, It's at the languages menu, my cursor dissappeared, no keyboard/mouse response
[12:39] <boselecta> weird
[12:39] <cdm10> MidnighToker: What makes you think it's fragmented?
[12:39] <astro76> MidnighToker, is your disk >80% full, the article says fragmentation can occur if it is
[12:39] <markelhas> hi ppl, yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp.
[12:40] <zaggy-nl> I'm downloading the alternate gutsy cd now, should be faster
[12:40] <MidnighToker> cdm10, it was CheeseGardener saying he had "10% none contiguous files"
[12:40] <cdm10> MidnighToker: Linux filesystems get fragmented, but nowhere near as easily or as badly as Windows filesystems. If it's below 10% fragmentation, there's really no need to defragment.
[12:40] <boselecta> cwgannon: do you need to re-start gnome or something for the change to register, maybe?
[12:40] <silvia> trivialatina
[12:40] <[ASG] > !start
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <cwgannon> boselecta: will try that
[12:41] <gnr> in my nvidia setup im getting the error "unable to to remove old X config backup file" when i remove this manually i get the error "unable to creat X config backup file" lol.... what am i doing wrong?
[12:41] <markelhas> ppl some help one my wifi problem plz.
[12:41] <P_Kable> What tool should I use to check a hard drive completely (sectors and all of that...)
[12:41] <P_Kable> please
[12:41] <cdm10> P_Kable: fsck
[12:41] <lamego> P_Kable, dd
[12:41] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, right, done some googling. the fragmentation you see is not file fragmentation, so its not a problem
[12:41] <MidnighToker> http://dataexpedition.com/~sbnoble/Tips/filesystems.html
[12:41] <P_Kable> cdm10=>  fsck /dev/sdb1 is a complete test ?
[12:41] <cdm10> P_Kable: DD is for copying a drive, fsck is for checking it.
[12:41] <intr80_> P_Kable: spinright
[12:41] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, it's not?  Then what is it?
[12:42] <boselecta> fsck is for checking a filesystem
[12:42] <P_Kable> spinright ?
[12:42] <Derspankster> creative audigy 2 soundcard ok with ubuntu?
[12:42] <noelferreira> how can i check my disk for erros?
[12:42] <intr80_> grc.com
[12:42] <lamego> fsck does a file system check, does it sector reading for the entire disk ?
[12:42] <cdm10> P_Kable: hold on, lemme get the command... generally it's not a good idea to run fsck in read/write mode on a mounted partition so I'm checking how to make it read-only.
[12:42] <P_Kable> yeah fsck is for FS
[12:42] <gnr> in my nvidia setup im getting the error "unable to to remove old X config backup file" when i remove this manually i get the error "unable to create X config backup file" lol.... what am i doing wrong?
[12:42] <lamego> cdm10, by reading the entire disk, you are checking for physical errors
[12:42] <cafuego> lamego: it will if you give it the right options
[12:42] <P_Kable> I unmounted the partition already cdm10
[12:42] <cdm10> P_Kable: oh, you're looking for more than an FS check? Then use Spinrite.
[12:42] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, have a look at thelink, under fragmentation/optimisation
[12:42] <P_Kable> and fsck seems to be too fast for a good "check"
[12:43] <cdm10> CheeseGardener: anything 10% or below won't cause any problems, you really shouldn't try to defrag your partition.
[12:43] <P_Kable> spinrite or spinright ??
[12:43] <lamego> fsck is good only for FS structure checks, not for surface scans, if that is the case
[12:43] <cdm10> P_Kable: SpinRite
[12:43] <noelferreira> my systems interrupted because of electric failure and on boot i had IO erros in my drive. how can i check for it and maybe correct them?
[12:43] <P_Kable> ok
[12:43] <lamego> noelferreira, fsck
[12:43] <P_Kable> thx cdm10
[12:43] <paotzu> cdm10: on linux it is not really a concern about "fragmentation" but "linearization."  That's why fsck reports data as "contiguous"
[12:44] <cafuego> if all you want is a blocks test, use `badblocks'.
[12:44] <cdm10> paotzu: I realize that, I'm just saying that CheeseGardener shouldn't be worried about fragmentation...
[12:44] <markelhas> yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp.
[12:44] <cdm10> markelhas: what chipset is that card? run lspci to find out.
[12:44] <paotzu> cdm10: ah I came in after that part
[12:44] <cdm10> markelhas: pastebin your lspci results
[12:44] <P_Kable> cdm10=>  spinrite is not in the repos :(
[12:44] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, so what is continous data?  I'm confused.
[12:44] <cdm10> !paste | markelhas
[12:44] <ubotu> markelhas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:44] <cdm10> P_Kable: it's a $90 program from grc.com
[12:44] <gnr> in my nvidia setup im getting the error "unable to to remove old X config backup file" when i remove this manually i get the error "unable to creat X config backup file" lol.... what am i doing wrong?
[12:44] <cdm10> P_Kable: but it's the best for actual HD checks.
[12:44] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, you know, i really dont know any more :S
[12:45] <P_Kable> damn
[12:45] <cdm10> P_Kable: if you just want to check the entire filesystem, fsck will be fine.
[12:45] <cdm10> P_Kable: if you back up regularly, I wouldn't worry about anything.
[12:45] <P_Kable> no I wanna check the HD
[12:45] <lamego> cdm10, why are you advising for comercial software when there is open source software on the repositories for the same purpose :) ?
[12:45] <cafuego> P_Kable: Like I said, `badblocks'.
[12:45] <cdm10> lamego: Well, I don't know of the open software.
[12:45] <cdm10> lamego: What is it?
[12:45] <markelhas> cdm10, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40750/
[12:45] <santander> i have a problem, i asked before, now i put it on : http://pastebin.com/m7ebbb9ed
[12:46] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, alright.  Thanks anyway for the help!  I appreciate it.  L8er
[12:46] <cdm10> I mean, I've heard great things about SpinRite, so I was just recommending it.
[12:46] <lamego> read what other people already mentioned, like, badblocks, dd
[12:46] <cwgannon> boselecta: restart of gnome didn't fix the vlc issue
[12:46] <boselecta> hm
[12:46] <paotzu> P_Kable: if you want to extract the data and also see where there are problems, you can image your partition with ddrescue (no underscore)
[12:46] <cdm10> lamego: dd copies stuff, it doesn't scan the disk for surface errors.
[12:46] <markelhas> cdm10, i've managed to put it work either with ndiswapper or mad-wifi tools
[12:46] <lamego> cdm10, not again, dd reads data, if you run dd over an entire disk, it will trigger any disk I/O errors
[12:46] <cdm10> markelhas: I'm not familiar with how to get wifi working with that card, so I can't help you there.
[12:46] <markelhas> cdm10, but now i do the same process but the card don't work
[12:47] <markelhas> :(
[12:47] <lamego> you can dd to dev null just to read the entire disk
[12:47] <paotzu> P_Kable: if it makes an image of your partition without having to read the same bits over and over, you have no problems
[12:47] <cdm10> lamego: yeah, but if the disk is failing but the ECC works ok, wouldn't it not find any errors?
[12:47] <boselecta> so VLC is in the applications menu, and it runs properly, but doesn't appear in the "Open With" menu.
[12:47] <odomsbar_> --*-*----654
[12:47] <odomsbar_> ';pklikjup;jkoiokjiokllkl
[12:47] <cdm10> boselecta: so right click on the file of the type you want to set to open with VLC, go to Properties>Open With and add VLC manually.
[12:47] <cwgannon> boselecta: right
[12:47] <P_Kable> paotzu=>  I do not have space for an image, the drive is 200GB and 90% full
[12:47] <markelhas> "yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp."
[12:48] <P_Kable> but thx paotzu
[12:48] <lamego> cdm10, dd is a nice tool, for a trivial testing
[12:48] <markelhas> any tips ppl?
[12:48] <astro76> boselecta, yeah you're right, you can type vlc into custom command
[12:48] <Gin> boselecta, you have to right click on the file and chose open with other.. and then select vlc. after that it iwill shows "open with vlc" for that type of files
[12:48] <cdm10> lamego: alright
[12:48] <astro76> boselecta, it doesn't show in my open with either
[12:49] <cwgannon> boselecta: i'm doing what you advise, but neither "vlc" nor "wxvlc" as commands work entirely -- they do open vlc but do not open the file at all
[12:49] <boselecta> weird. anyway it's cwgannon with the problem. s/he claims that even manually setting the "open with" to vlc or wxvlc does not work.
[12:49] <MidnighToker> if i install a second HDD into my computer, will Ubuntu try and read it at boot time?
[12:49] <boselecta> ok i see. maybe there's a filename expando or something you have to put in there.
[12:49] <cafuego> MidnighToker: Not normally until you partitiln, format and mount it.
[12:49] <cwgannon> boselecta: i'm wondering if this is because the file is on a samba share...?
[12:50] <cafuego> MidnighToker: if it's already got filesystems, just add it to /etc/fstab.
[12:50] <astro76> cwgannon, yeah that could definitely be it
[12:50] <cwgannon> hrmm
[12:50] <MidnighToker> cafuego, its partitioned and formatted, i just dont want the OS to try mounting it or anything... want to DD it to another box as its a non-booting system from another PC
[12:50] <astro76> cwgannon, not all apps support however it is that gnome mounts stuff, but you can mount samba shares for real in your /etc/fstab
[12:51] <cafuego> MidnighToker: Even if it goes mount it, just unmount it again ;-)
[12:51] <markelhas> can any one help me with wifi config?
[12:51] <lamego> MidnighToker, yes, the disk should be recognized, just look for it with: sudo fdisk -l
[12:51] <MidnighToker> cafuego, well, yeah, i just dont want Ubuntu boot to try fixing it or anything
[12:51] <astro76> MidnighToker, unless it's in your fstab it won't be mounted or checked
[12:52] <MidnighToker> astro76, ta
[12:52] <cafuego> MidnighToker: it won't try to fix it unless it's in fstab to begin with.
[12:52] <cwgannon> boselecta & astro76: confirmed working now with a local file -- can you please explain how to make opening with vlc the default?
[12:52] <MidnighToker> is there any file system recovery software in the Ubuntu package manager?
[12:53] <cwgannon> astro76: is it advisable to mount my samba shares with /etc/fstab?  are there any repercussions i should be aware of?
[12:53] <astro76> cwgannon, no that's perfectly sane
[12:53] <astro76> cwgannon, *yes
[12:53] <markelhas> "yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp."
[12:53] <boselecta> cwgannon: all i can suggest is what i've already said. right click on the file and set the open-with.
[12:53] <cafuego> cwgannon: use the 'credentials' option to specify login details, so you don't have the user/pass readable in fstab.
[12:54] <astro76> MidnighToker, besides fsck?
[12:54] <cwgannon> boselecta: thank you for your help
[12:55] <MidnighToker> astro76, well, yeah :S
[12:55] <boselecta> sorry i couldn't do more.
[12:55] <lamego> MidnighToker, yes, there is a tool called "testdisk"
[12:55] <cwgannon> cafuego & astro76: thanks for the help on mounting the samba share (i'm following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872&highlight=mounting+shares)
[12:55] <lamego> testdisk - Partition scanner and disk recovery tool
[12:55] <youknowme> can I connect to computers with Ubuntu loaded on them directly to each other through they're Ethernet ports and have a network-like file transfer set-up?
[12:55] <youknowme> *2
[12:55] <sashimi> hi everybody
[12:56] <MidnighToker> youknowme, you need the correct type of network cable, but yes
[12:56] <astro76> cwgannon, that looks good
[12:56] <sashimi> could someone give me a hand with bluetooth on gusty ?
[12:56] <edubuntu> Crossover set ips to same subnet
[12:56] <MidnighToker> lamego, thanks.  -and for my last question: how can i create a partition spanning two physical drives?
[12:56] <sashimi> !bluetooth
[12:56] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:56] <lamego> MidnighToker, using LVM
[12:56] <MidnighToker> !lvm
[12:56] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:57] <MidnighToker> woo!
[12:57] <linnoob> chello?
[12:57] <cwgannon> boselecta: i'm an idiot and misread part of your suggestions and you did indeed tell me how to make videos open by default in vlc, so thank you once more
[12:57] <tds> can someone help me with samba? i'm a complete newb
[12:57] <MidnighToker> !samba
[12:57] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:57] <MidnighToker> hehe, i'm liking this bot
[12:58] <youknowme> midnightoker: so technically it should work? But I have tried it, well, I tried using vncviewer with it, but I still had them directly connected.
[12:58] <youknowme> WHat do you mean "right kind of cable" should not standard eth cable work?
[12:58] <Taj> hi
[12:58] <P_Kable> does spinrite runs on linux ? just wanna make sure ...
[12:58] <Taj> hi every one
[12:58] <lamego> youknowme, no, it must be a cross-over cable
[12:58] <linnoob> hey is anyone availible to help a hopeless linux noob?
[12:58] <P_Kable> it looks like a windows type application
[12:58] <mc44> linnoob: just ask your question :)
[12:58] <MidnighToker> youknowme, connecting two PCs together (without a switch/router/hub) needs a crossover cable. pairs 1+2 are swapped over (so send goes to recieve and vice versa)
[12:58] <linnoob> its a bit complicated
[12:58] <lamego> P_Kable, have you tried badblocks already ?
[12:58] <Taj> i am new to ubuntu and want to know one thing that do ubuntu support intel wireless 2200bg?
[12:59] <linnoob> no
[12:59] <P_Kable> lamego=>  nope
[12:59] <linnoob> i have that and it doesnt work
[12:59] <maxo> is it worth upgrading to the 7.1rc? I mean, is it pretty stable?
[12:59] <maxo> * Ubuntu 7.1 release candidate
[12:59] <lamego> P_Kable, badblocks is the standard tool to detect and mark bad disk blocks
[12:59] <lamego> maxo, 3 days and you have the final release, wait :)
[12:59] <maxo> lamego: what about the rc though? is it worth it?
[01:00] <P_Kable> but how about spinrite ? is it linux compatible ?
[01:00] <linnoob> ok, so my 8800 drivers arent working, when i enable the drivers and restart my computer, the thing f's up and i get all these weird ass colors and letters and it basically says that it cant load the drivers
[01:00] <lamego> well, I am using it, nothing to complain about ;)
[01:00] <Kudak> when 7.10 gets out, can i upgrade my 7.4 to it ????
[01:00] <P_Kable> is there a package ?
[01:00] <Taj> yes
[01:00] <maxo> ok, hell I might as well try it. but if my computer blows up, I blame you all lol
[01:00] <linnoob> i tried downloading the latest drivers, but once i get them, i have no idea what to do with them
[01:00] <Taj> you can upgrade...
[01:00] <youknowme> midnightoker: ohic, well forwarding ports on my router never seems to work.
[01:00] <youknowme> Would it be wise to forward all ports to be sure? as for the Internet and my open ports, would it not be the same as if I was directly connected to the net?
[01:00] <seanh> Hey, did the realplayer package get removed for gutsy?
[01:00] <Kudak> Taj: aight thanks.
[01:00] <lamego> P_Kable, no, spinrite is not available on the repositories
[01:00] <n3tfury> /disconnect
[01:00] <P_Kable> I know
[01:00] <MidnighToker> youknowme, why do you want to portforward everything? --what are you actually trying to do?
[01:00] <n3tfury> /leave
[01:01] <P_Kable> but how does it work ?
[01:01] <MidnighToker> hehe
[01:01] <linnoob> anyone knoe what to do?
[01:01] <boselecta> seanh: i spent an entire night trying to make realplayer go and had nothing but probs on gutsy.
[01:01] <lamego> P_Kable, this is not the best place to ask about a comercial application, which is not ubuntu neither linux related
[01:01] <Taj> just wanna know if some one know that do ubuntu support intel wireless 2200bg i try mandrake and it doesn't work for me... :(
[01:02] <P_Kable> Of course lamego but I presumed someone used it here at least once ... :)
[01:02] <lamego> P_Kable, no, you just got that app name, from a non linux user :)
[01:02] <youknowme> midnightoke: I have never been able to set up a network or do anything useful rather than share a net connection with a router.
[01:02] <youknowme> I'd like to try setting something up, even dabble in using a thin-client.
[01:02] <seanh> boselecta -- did you figure out how to play real audio streams? I've been using mplayer but it's crashing
[01:02] <linnoob> sooooo no one knows how to make nvidia drivers work?
[01:02] <Taj> i have acer 4060 laptop and in mandava 2007 it say press the wireless button
[01:02] <linnoob> or how to install drivers???
[01:02] <itnomad> Taj: it works. There is an freenode channel for support.
[01:02] <boselecta> seanh no i ended up getting wmv streams working instead.
[01:02] <lamego> linnoob, nvidia drivers work out of the box for most cards
[01:03] <youknowme> linnoob, restricted manager?
[01:03] <itnomad> I can't remember the name, I am checking now.
[01:03] <P_Kable> lamego=>  from a non linux user ??
[01:03] <boselecta> had no luck with realvideo
[01:03] <Kudak> Taj: maybe this will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=309041
[01:03] <maxo> Taj: google, first result: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=309041
[01:03] <Tixer> I just installed Gutsy, and it broke my install of Icecast by giving me a fatal error when I try to run it.
[01:03] <Taj> can you please provide me channel name for support.
[01:03] <maxo> kudak, you beat me to it lol
[01:03] <Pici> Tixer: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support/discussion.
[01:03] <Kudak> maxo: lol :)
[01:03] <Frogzoo> Tixer: pretty sure gutsy's not released yet
[01:03] <Frogzoo> !gutsy
[01:03] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:05] <itnomad> Taj: ipw2100
[01:05] <Kudak> anyone knows a good book that teaches all about network related topics such as protocols and so on, i need a book that starts with the very basics and teaches "how things work"
[01:05] <itnomad> that is the channel name. all you need to know is in the links provided when you join the channel, most likely.
[01:06] <jason|ca> hi -- im trying to share files from my fiesty Kubuntu drive to a windows 2000 machine.  i can access the machine but it keeps rejecting my  username and password -- i need help please
[01:06] <Taj> i read that post before but the thing is that do ubuntu 7.04 support wireless 2200bg out of the box
[01:06] <Taj> like suse 10.3
[01:07] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, using ubuntu as the server?
[01:07] <Taj> mandrava 2007.1 do not support
[01:07] <] tyndareus] > hi everyone
[01:07] <jason|ca> yes
[01:08] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, make sure its shared on the ubuntu machine, on the windows box run `net use z: \\[ubuntu] \[share name\ /USER:[username on ubuntu box] 
[01:08] <MidnighToker> `
[01:08] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: ok
[01:09] <Scunizi> What are the default port numbers for the built in Remote Desktop in Ubuntu from "system/preferances" ?
[01:09] <MidnighToker> Scunizi, 5800, 5900
[01:09] <MidnighToker> Scunizi, its VNC
[01:09] <Scunizi> MidnighToker, do I need both?
[01:09] <MidnighToker> Scunizi, just 5900 if you have a client
[01:10] <MidnighToker> 5800 is a web/java interface usually
[01:10] <Scunizi> MidnighToker, yea.. I'll be using tightvnc on a win box into my machine.
[01:10] <jazzanova> how can I find out what version of ubuntu I am no
[01:10] <PreZLaptop> bah, GG download keeps bouncing between 120-180kb/s :(
[01:10] <Seveas> jazzanova, lsb_release -a
[01:11] <PreZLaptop> it should be able to go up to about 2.5mb/s on my link :(
[01:11] <graelb> Quick question. In a man file, if something says [-] option, what does the brackets around the - mean?
[01:11] <Seveas> graelb, reading the manpage for ps? :)
[01:11] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: for some reason it keeps reporting network name not found
[01:12] <Comrade-Sergei> where is the sources.list file?
[01:12] <graelb> ps? ifconfig
[01:12] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, can you ping the box?
[01:12] <nickrud> Comrade-Sergei: /etc/apt
[01:12] <mc44> PreZLaptop: the mirrors may not be as fast as your link ;)
[01:12] <Comrade-Sergei> thanks nickrud i forgot again
[01:12] <Seveas> graelb, they mean that the - is optional
[01:12] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: yes
[01:12] <graelb> Seveas:  I'm trying to put my eth1 into promiscuous mode
[01:12] <graelb> on my home network /disclaimer
[01:12] <MidnighToker> jason|ca did you set up samba on the remote box?
[01:13] <jason|ca> remote = ubuntu?
[01:13] <jason|ca> yes
[01:13] <MidnighToker> yea
[01:13] <MidnighToker> odd....
[01:13] <jason|ca> i can ping by IP not necess by name
[01:13] <jason|ca> and i changed the netuse to reflect the ip
[01:13] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, kk  -can did you use hostname or IP in the net use command?
[01:13] <jason|ca> i used the ip
[01:13] <tds> can someone help me with samba?
[01:13] <PreZLaptop> mc44, well, I just can't see an option to 'switch servers'
[01:14] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, any firewalls on any of the boxes? how are they conencted? what IPs?
[01:14] <mc44> PreZLaptop: there isn't one :)
[01:14] <graelb> Seveas: Do you know anything about driftnet?
[01:14] <jason|ca> connected via switch ips are 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.0.40(the ubuntu box) firewall on the ubuntu box has been opened to allow samba
[01:15] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, do me a favor and completely disable the firewall on the ubuntu box
[01:15] <e-voc> good evening everyone
[01:15] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: how?
[01:15] <MidnighToker> morning e-voc
[01:15] <shanti> hi .. s1 please explain to me the difference between LTS-Version and default-ubuntu ? .. tnx
[01:16] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, no idea. how did you configure it?
[01:16] <Pici> !lts | shanti
[01:16] <ubotu> shanti: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[01:16] <jason|ca> it comes installed -- i configured it with   firestarter
[01:16] <e-voc> i'm running a feisty fawn on a laptop. is it worth and okay to update to gutsy already?
[01:16] <joevandyk> What's 'xylap' and why was it absolutely killing my box?
[01:16] <Snuxoll> e-voc: 3 days, might as well wait
[01:16] <Kudak> e-voc: wait 3 days for final realise
[01:16] <Pici> joevandyk: its a screensaver iirc
[01:17] <e-voc> Snuxoll: ah, till the final?
[01:17] <shanti> Pici: yes but are there any other features but support ?
[01:17] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, i'll have a look for instructions, but disabling the firewall would be the frist place i would start
[01:17] <Pici> shanti: nope. LTS = Long Term Support.
[01:17] <e-voc> okay, nice. i'll be patient :)
[01:17] <shanti> TNX ;-)
[01:17] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: ok
[01:17] <Snuxoll> e-voc: Yes, the RC is stable and if you really want you COULD upgrade
[01:17] <Snuxoll> e-voc: But the final will have more bugs worked out
[01:17] <Pici> e-voc: and better support.
[01:17] <e-voc> Snuxoll: okay thanks :)
[01:18] <Frogzoo> e-voc: usually even after release, there's a flurry of updates - best to wait
[01:18] <dude> slight problem here - i can boot fine from livecd, but trying to boot from flash drive installation gives me the dreaded "can't access tty; job control turned off" error. any idea what might be causing that?
[01:18] <PreZLaptop> found it :)
[01:19] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: killing the firewall in firestarter had no impact
[01:19] <jason|ca> same result
[01:19] <Kudak> anyone knows a good book that teaches all about network related topics such as protocols and so on, i need a book that starts with the very basics and teaches "how things work"
[01:20] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, not sure about on ubuntu but you used to have to create a samba user `smbpasswd -a username` once a system user of that name existed
[01:20] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: ok - -worth a try
[01:20] <gnomefreak> Kudak: networking for dummies? atleast i think ive seen that
[01:21] <gnomefreak> Kudak: dummy books are about as basic as you can get i have 30+ of them
[01:21] <awalton__> kudak: Wikipedia is actually a good place to start for that kind of thing
[01:21] <Frogzoo> dude: for help with "can't acess tty" in Feisty, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588&highlight=tty+job+control.
[01:21] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: that did it
[01:21] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, coolio, should have thought about that earlier, sorry
[01:21] <jason|ca> np  -thanks man
[01:22] <Kudak> alright thanks guys
[01:22] <Pici> !ttyerror
[01:22] <ubotu> If you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError
[01:22] <StevieWonder> Hello all very quick question.  If I install the Gutsy RC will it update to the final version on release day and beyond?
[01:23] <Frogzoo> StevieWonder: who knows?
[01:23] <Pici> StevieWonder: yes. Further questions in #ubuntu+1
[01:24] <kurumin> Hello, there!
[01:24] <FluxD> Hi, I have a problem. I am on Fiesty. When I use to plugin my NTFS formatted external it used to mount read only. But now its not even mounting. Any suggestions?
[01:24] <StevieWonder> Thank you both
[01:24] <jthomas_> Hi, Where can I find a tutorial on building a LAMP Server from source?
[01:24] <idnzo> hey, i am getting the following error when trying to upgrade:  files list file for package `mythtv-themes' contains empty filename
[01:24] <idnzo> it wont let me remove the package or anything, or install any new ones, any ideas?
[01:25] <Pici> jthomas_: lamp is just linux, apache, mysql, php/perl/python.   Install those from source and tada, you're done.
[01:25] <Kudak> is it usefull to learn Python?? or not used much nowdays ?
[01:26] <jthomas_> Pici: I don't have to combine them to work together?
[01:26] <Pici> jthomas_: well you need to make sure that they are configured to work together, but otherwise, no.
[01:26] <jforman> anyone in here running ubuntu with X on a sparc system? i am having a bit of trouble getting X to fire up
[01:26] <Pici> jthomas_: its not one big package.
[01:26] <ianm_> Kudak: it is used for app development and also for many ubuntu system utilities and scripts
[01:27] <Kudak> ianm_: oh i see, thx.
[01:27] <ianm_> Kudak: not a bad language.  Ruby is sexier though :D
[01:27] <jthomas_> Pici: I know that, but I am saying if i do them 1 by 1 and they'l l work together
[01:27] <PreZLaptop> much better
[01:28] <PreZLaptop> getting almost 2mb/s now ;)
[01:28] <dude> frogbzoo: that didn't work, froze the system with blinking capslock and numlock lights
[01:28] <PreZLaptop> how to turn a 3-4 hour upgrade into a 15 minute one ;)
[01:28] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, I got it!!!
[01:28] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, o.o which part?
[01:29] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, the video! this is awesome
[01:29] <musashi> ah sweet
[01:29] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, i used "envy" and it did it all for me, i can even run beryl now!
[01:29] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, :) grat.  did u solve the sound problem?
[01:29] <minus> Compiz Fusion++ Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon++ ;)
[01:30] <knifehat> Anyone heard of a problem where ubuntu freezes when booting unless the computer has just been restarted from windows?
[01:30] <Pici> !gutsy
[01:30] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:30] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, not yet, i got to do that and wifi yet then its out with vista!
[01:30] <minus> Pici, Im not asking for support... Im just here cause I can xD
[01:30] <dwxreaper> i can type sudo su at the terminal and it works, if i am in gnome, and i open gedit, i can't save files because i am not root
[01:30] <Ademan> is there any way to execute a *.desktop file from the command line?
[01:30] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, lol, i have vista, xp, and ubuntu xD
[01:30] <dwxreaper> how do i open gedit so i can save files from gnome
[01:31] <Pici> minus: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat
[01:31] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, ubuntu was doing some wierd stuff to my wireless card...
[01:31] <xtlosx> hey has anyone had any success installing the Release candidate of Gutsy Gibbon on a Macbook Pro?  Last time I tried, it installed, but when I rebooted after install, it wouldn't do anything just a black screen..... any ideas?
[01:31] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, ive had vista ultimate and i got to say its not that bad
[01:31] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, hopefully i fixed it..
[01:31] <adante> hi, i've installed swf-player, what else do i need todo to be able to use flash in firefox?
[01:31] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, ive had sooooo many problems with broadcom chips
[01:31] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, i cant stand anything that lags for no obvious reason
[01:31] <Comrade-Sergei> yea
[01:32] <xtlosx> anyone... macbook pro, ubuntu?  Anything special that needs to be done?
[01:32] <dwxreaper> i can type sudo su at the terminal and it works, if i am in gnome, and i open gedit, i can't save files because i am not root
[01:32] <dwxreaper> how do i open gedit so i can save files from gnome
[01:32] <Esteth> adante: i beleive ubuntu-restricted-extras covers that
[01:32] <javb> If boot with ubuntu live CD having Fedora installed, how can mount or see the host file system.
[01:32] <minus> Pici, the scrolling isn't that fast now.. so...
[01:32] <musashi> sudo gedit file
[01:32] <javb> The fedora mail files?
[01:32] <drew> 3 days? w00t
[01:32] <javb> does the live CD mount it automatically?
[01:32] <cosmodad> anyone else having problems encoding with grip? ripping goes well but grip won't start encoding :(
[01:32] <Pici> minus: It was more for the people talking about gutsy anyway.
[01:33] <Pici> minus: and just a general reminder.
[01:33] <minus> k
[01:33] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, my sound works once in a while when i boot
[01:33] <Comrade-Sergei> intel chip musashi ?
[01:33] <musashi> amd
[01:34] <javb> ?
[01:34] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, amd makes sound cards? must be a laptop or something right?
[01:34] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, yes
[01:35] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, i wanted the cache so i went intel core 2 duo 2.2 ghz
[01:35] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, heh i dont really do anything hardcore enough for that
[01:35] <Comrade-Sergei> lol musashi ive got 4 gb ram and a nvidia 8600 gs 512 mb video
[01:36] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, rofl /hates you
[01:36] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, in a laptop!
[01:36] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, o.O
[01:36] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, yours only supports up to 2 gb i believe
[01:36] <Kudak> Comrade-Segei: what for? i told you already u dont need that kind of hardware for porn, u could use cheaper cards
[01:37] <Esteth> Is there a way to tell ubuntu to run a script every time a readable usb storage device is plugged in?
[01:37] <Comrade-Sergei> Esteth, something in sessions maybe?
[01:37] <Chester> Hello hello
[01:38] <mariocesar_bo> How can I add a new file extension to a syntax markup on Gedit, like *.thtml to be HTML  ?
[01:38] <Chester> Is there somebody here that could help me?
[01:38] <Tixer> I'm trying to install Icecast, but I get an error saying Could Not Parse XSLT file.
[01:38] <Kudak> Chester: just ask your question, if someone knows he will respond.
[01:38] <Esteth> Comrade-Sergei: Thanks, i'll look at that :)
[01:38] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, my wireless card was hanging when i booted ubuntu, and if i restarted in either windows OS, it would be completely gone.
[01:38] <sixdraw> anyone know how to put different backgrounds on each side of the cube
[01:39] <Chester> Owke, i installed ubuntu but when i reboot it show grub but cant find unbuntu
[01:39] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, well lspci -vvv detects it
[01:39] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, do what?
[01:39] <Comrade-Sergei> mega verbose!
[01:39] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, lspci shows whats on the pci
[01:40] <javb> i need to chroot my original filesystem being on the live CD, any IDEA ? ? ? ?
[01:40] <cdm10> javb: what's the problem?
[01:40] <dwxreaper> i can type sudo su at the terminal and it works, if i am in gnome, and i open gedit, i can't save files because i am not root
[01:40] <dwxreaper> how do i open gedit so i can save files from gnome
[01:40] <dwxreaper> and now for my user, i can do gedit in terminal and it works
[01:40] <sixdraw> anyone know how to put different backgrounds on each side of the cube??
[01:40] <cdm10> !repeat | sixdraw
[01:40] <ubotu> sixdraw: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:40] <xtlosx> anyone anyone here with a macbook pro?
[01:40] <sub> gksudo gedit
[01:40] <dwxreaper> but for root it gives me some xlib error, what's the deal with that
[01:40] <xtlosx> come on people
[01:41] <javb> cdm10, i want to install LILO, because i cant boot, so, i booted with live CD, but how can i chroot my installed system?
[01:41] <ihope> javb: sudo chroot /whatever, I imagine.
[01:41] <Comrade-Sergei> gotta reboot brb
[01:41] <n3ow_jay> could some one tell me how you install programs in ubuntu i wantedt o add the the new xchat but can not figure out the install
[01:41] <Tixer> Anyone know why I'm getting an XSLT parsing error when I run icecast?
[01:41] <javb> ihope "/whaever" is what i DONT know.
[01:41] <musashi> dwxreaper, are you trying to edit a file as root to save it?
[01:41] <Tixer> N30w_jay: "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[01:41] <cdm10> javb: sudo chroot /media/whatever?
[01:41] <cafuego> first, bind mount /proc
[01:41] <cdm10> javb: find what your normal disk is mounted under and put it after chroot
[01:41] <dwxreaper> musashi: i'm trying to save a file, i can only save it as root, but when i do sudo su in terminal then gedit it gives me the xlib errors
[01:41] <n3ow_jay> what is the sudo?
[01:42] <nzero> !sudo
[01:42] <ihope> javb: the command mount will give a list of filesystems mounted; look for something like /dev/hda1.
[01:42] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:42] <cdm10> dwxreaper: you're supposed to use gksudo, not sudo, with gui apps.
[01:42] <javb> cdm10: Mmmm, /media i have nothing, either /mnt// how can i find what my normal disk is mounted.
[01:42] <cdm10> javb: go to Places>Computer and see what you've got
[01:42] <musashi> dwxreaper, try "sudo gedit file"
[01:42] <gnomefreak> musashi: gksudo gedit
[01:42] <musashi> or that
[01:42] <musashi> >.>
[01:43] <Chester> Installled ubuntu using live cd. I've got 3 drives in my pc. And 1 Os wich is Ubuntu. This 1 is located on dev/sdb. But when i reboot it shows GRUB but when i select ubuntu kernel. It somehow cant locate ubuntu. What am i doing wrong?
[01:43] <javb> cdm10: dont have graphical. my monitor is not supporting the resolution ubuntu is sending
[01:43] <kiru> why is it in the U.S. just 6:45pm
[01:43] <kiru> fuck usa
[01:43] <Pici> !ohmy | kiru
[01:43] <ubotu> kiru: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:43] <musashi> nice
[01:43] <gnomefreak> sirry LjL  ill go to bed now ;)
[01:44] <javb> :/
[01:44] <ihope> javb: use the mount command, then.
[01:44] <Chester> no1? :(
[01:44] <Kewlb> gor a problem.. been using ubuntu for awhile.. had it on a laptop -- everything working great, decided to try some new stuff.. installed mandriva -- user inferace much better than ubuntu -- repository sucks, so I decided to try kbuntu and installed 7.10
[01:44] <Kewlb> nothing works
[01:44] <Kewlb> as far as the network goes
[01:44] <LjL> gnomefreak: too many trolls, too little time, uh :)
[01:44] <gnomefreak> ;)
[01:44] <Kewlb> no other distro I tried over the past few days (ubuntu, edubuntu, mandriva, centos, SuSE Enterprise) had a single problem
[01:45] <Kewlb> kbuntu for some reason -- no matter what I do it will not bring up my wireless network card
[01:45] <musashi> Kewlb,  what kind of card
[01:45] <Kewlb> Intel PRO/Wireless
[01:45] <Kewlb> worked in every other linux distro
[01:45] <Chester> Installled ubuntu using live cd. I've got 3 drives in my pc. And 1 Os wich is Ubuntu. This 1 is located on dev/sdb. But when i reboot it shows GRUB but when i select ubuntu kernel. It somehow cant locate ubuntu. What am i doing wrong?
[01:46] <nzero> !gnomefreak
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomefreak - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <nzero> !douche
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about douche - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <nzero> darn
[01:46] <gnomefreak> nzero: please dont play with the bot
[01:47] <Retr0Rob> Hello all
[01:47] <musashi> hiya
[01:47] <Kewlb> any ideas on kbuntu and the network card and why it would work out of the box in ubuntu/mandriva/centos but not in kbuntu?
[01:48] <poh> how can I reinstall an app without removing it first?
[01:48] <poh> nevermind
[01:48] <poh> I forgot to ask google
[01:49] <gnomefreak> 4/opme
[01:49] <johnny_> i removed this package so i could reinstall it, but now it doesn't take the other deps into account when reinstalling
[01:49] <El> hola algun espaol
[01:49] <cdm10> !es | El
[01:49] <ubotu> El: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:49] <IdleOne> johnny_: did it remove the deps also when you uninstalled?
[01:49] <musashi> what is this beryl everyone talks about
[01:50] <musashi> !beryl
[01:50] <musashi> :<
[01:50] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:50] <johnny_> it told me to use autoremove
[01:50] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:50] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:50] <cdm10> musashi: look it up on Google Video
[01:50] <cdm10> Can someone kick him or something?
[01:50] <musashi> cdm10, k lol
[01:50] <johnny_> no ayuda in espanol aqui
[01:50] <cdm10> !es > El
[01:50] <IdleOne> El: escribes /join #ubuntu-es por favor
[01:50] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:50] <Vaan> nect
[01:50] <cdm10> heh, ubotu's slow today.
[01:51] <johnny_> err en .. oops
[01:51] <youknowme> I have two systems connected with a cat-5 crossover cable, and when I try to use vncviewer to connect to the other I get:
[01:51] <youknowme> Couldn't convert 'joe-desktop' to host address
[01:51] <youknowme> Unable to connect to VNC server
[01:51] <johnny_> oh oops.. turns out autoremove actually didn't do it 's job
[01:51] <boselecta>  alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:51] <johnny_> even though i said yes
[01:51] <youknowme> help?
[01:51] <IdleOne> !es | boselecta
[01:51] <ubotu> boselecta: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:52] <johnny_> ok.. now , this package when reinstalled, is not regenerating an ssl cert
[01:52] <johnny_> flumotion
[01:52] <musashi> wth that is hardcore
[01:52] <n3ow_jay> is there a upgrade from 5.04 to a newer ver ?
[01:52] <boselecta> apparently that means "Because someone can help me is that I have to reboot your pc every time"
[01:52] <mrj> youknowme, do they both have ips or did you unplug one from your router, leave it set to DHCP, and expect it to magically suck an IP address through the second computer?
[01:52] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:52] <IdleOne> !upgrade | n3ow_jay
[01:52] <ubotu> n3ow_jay: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:52] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:52] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratosalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratosalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:52] <cdm10> n3ow_jay: you'll have to upgrade 4 times to get to the latest version.
[01:53] <cdm10> n3ow_jay: 3 actually.
[01:53] <IdleOne> !ops | el
[01:53] <ubotu> el: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[01:53] <johnny_> hi
[01:53] <youknowme> mrj: they are both set to dhcp, what would I change it to?
[01:53] <musashi> wow im afraid if i downloaded that i would break my pc
[01:54] <XData> And I will execute great vengeance upon them with wrathful rebukes; and they shall know that I am Jehovah, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.
[01:54] <IdleOne> musashi: if you want to know more about beryl and compiz join #ubuntu-effects or #beryl or #compiz those 3 channels can asnwer you better
[01:54] <Tm_T> LjL: wakey
[01:54] <Pici> !o4o > XData
[01:55] <musashi> IdleOne, i was just wondering the requirements, really
[01:55] <mrj> youknowme, hows the 2nd computer going to get an IP address if its only directly connected to the first?
[01:55] <youknowme> mrj, I didn't think of that, so.. how would I set it up?
[01:55] <IdleOne> musashi: again they can answer you better
[01:55] <mrj> youknowme, you'd give it a static IP
[01:55] <Retr0Rob> musashi, as far as processor or 3d capabilities?
[01:55] <MidnighToker> musashi, make sure you can use opegl on your graphics card, other than that give it a go. there are that many options, even on an old box (1gb duron, gforce4) its usuable and some of the lighter things are nice
[01:56] <youknowme> mrj, just one?
[01:56] <n3ow_jay> ok maybe an easier question  how do you add a server to x chat server list
[01:56] <mrj> youknowme, both might help if they're going to communicat back and forth
[01:56] <node357> go into the server list and hit Add
[01:56] <boselecta> n3ow_jay: through preferences
[01:56] <dwezel> Hello all.  Is there a channel to talk specifically about Gutsy?
[01:57] <Pici> dwezel: #ubuntu+1
[01:57] <dwezel> Thank you
[01:57] <musashi> Retr0Rob, both :x
[01:57] <musashi> ill jjust google it
[01:57] <IdleOne> n3ow_jay: click on Xchat and then network List then click Add Server or edit or something like that. #xchat is a good place to ask
[01:57] <trogdor> still no luck getting direct rendering going with this intel card. Its i810 driver I think and its taking half my system memory :/
[01:57] <musashi> thanks guys
[01:57] <musashi> :)
[01:57] <boselecta> IRC -> Preferences -> Networks
[01:57] <youknowme> mrj, so would it be something like
[01:57] <youknowme> 192.168.1.1
[01:57] <youknowme> 192.168.4.1
[01:57] <youknowme> ????
[01:57] <mrj> it'd be whatever private address under the same subnet you wanted it to be
[01:57] <boselecta> sorry that's Edit -> Preferences -> Networks
[01:57] <mrj> thats like day 1 tcpip
[01:57] <Retr0Rob> I find generally if you do a glxinfo |grep direct
[01:57] <zonyl> How can I specify runlevel on Feisty?    I changed the kernel command line in grub to have a '3' at the end, however, upstart doesnt appear to acknowledge it and still loads runlevel 2.
[01:58] <XData> What's your problem pici ? rOOb, believe in him and you will be in peace !
[01:58] <Retr0Rob> and it said direct rendering: yes
[01:58] <youknowme> mrj, sorry, I'm not sure I understand
[01:58] <mrj> 192.168.1.1 /24 and 192.168.1.2 /24 (255.255.255.0) works
[01:58] <MidnighToker> youknowme, with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 it should be 192.168.0.x (x being the machine number)
[01:58] <Retr0Rob> you are generally OK
[01:58] <johnny_> uggh
[01:58] <musashi> Retr0Rob, well thats great mine says no rofl
[01:58] <Retr0Rob> lol
[01:58] <johnny_> it's still not reinstalling files it installed when this package was first installed
[01:58] <FluxD> Hi, my external drive is not automounting. Any suggestions as to what could be wrong?
[01:58] <musashi> Retr0Rob, thanks for helping though
[01:58] <Retr0Rob> that's about my luck
[01:58] <Retr0Rob> np.
[01:59] <johnny_> i deleted them on purpose because i assumed they would automatically come back on reinstall
[01:59] <XData> God is prosperity and power !
[01:59] <johnny_> and yet.. they do not
[01:59] <johnny_> shut up Xares_
[01:59] <johnny_> err
[01:59] <boselecta> is XData some kind of JW bot?
[01:59] <musashi> i have a opengl renderer string though
[01:59] <johnny_> shut up XData ..
[01:59] <Retr0Rob> if you are using nvidia or ATI, you may want to use the restricted drivers
[01:59] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: What format is it? NTFS?
[01:59] <MidnighToker> johnny apt-get --deep <packagename> or something like that, hang on
[01:59] <musashi> i am using nvidia lol
[01:59] <Greevous> I've been having lots of problems with Compiz in gutsy; are these guaranteed to be fixed by Thursday's release?
[01:59] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: yea
[01:59] <IdleOne> !offtopic | XData
[01:59] <ubotu> XData: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:59] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: Are you using feisty?
[01:59] <Pici> Greevous: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support/discussion.
[01:59] <XData> johnny, shut the fuck up
[01:59] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps, is there an app that will open/close cd drives - so i dont have to press the button (and also so i dont have to press on the tray) got one of those front panels that doesnt allow u to close drive with button
[01:59] <XData> i am not your friend
[01:59] <johnny_> no
[01:59] <Seeker`> !ops | XData
[01:59] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: yep
[02:00] <ubotu> XData: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[02:00] <johnny_> everybody wants you to shut up
[02:00] <Retr0Rob> Well, Ive done a few of them and never got it working unless I have direct rendering enabled.
[02:00] <IdleOne> XData: as a matter a fact Religion is o4o in all ubuntu channels so please stop or you will be banned
[02:00] <MidnighToker> johnny apt-get build-dep <package>  -i think
[02:00] <XData> non mais genre ubotu, t'es con ou quoi ? saloperie de malade mental
[02:00] <boselecta> ok so not a bot then
[02:00] <KidMan> How do I fix the Error 15 message for grub?
[02:00] <johnny_> watch my language .. i didn't say anything bad
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: Then you need to install ntfs-g3. Just go the Add/Remove programs and search for "ntfs"
[02:00] <boselecta> oh well.
[02:00] <nalioth> johnny_: sorry about that
[02:01] <Retr0Rob> There is  (was?) an option in beryl to use the other renderer, but I just got lockups from it.
[02:01] <LjL> johnny_: yeah i gave you the wrong kick message.
[02:01] <Odd-rationale> Or use "Synaptic"
[02:01] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: but it used to automount even if it was read only
[02:01] <johnny_> so.. build dep .. that doesn't sound like what i want?
[02:01] <flush> yo
[02:01] <flush> im having an incredible issue with alsa
[02:02] <flush> i cant get my damn freakin mixer to work properly anymore for -no apparent reason-
[02:02] <musashi> Retr0Rob, by enabled you mean i can enable it?
[02:02] <johnny_> build-dep has to do with source packages
[02:02] <johnny_>  not configure package options
[02:02] <flush> PCM in alsamixer has no effects at all anymore, when i try to use alsactl to restore the mixer settings (cause i got soundblaster live 5.1)
[02:02] <Pici> johnny_: build-dep installs the dependent packages you would need if you were compiling from source.
[02:02] <flush> it says     alsactl: set_control:995: failed to obtain info for control #7 (Operation not permitted)
[02:02] <Retr0Rob> Yes, depending on the card.
[02:02] <flush> what gives?
[02:02] <johnny_> it's not the packages i need
[02:02] <musashi> Retr0Rob, hmmm i bet ill ask how to do that next....
[02:02] <IdleOne> !enter | flush
[02:02] <ubotu> flush: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:02] <johnny_> but the configure options.. not ./configure options
[02:02] <musashi> Retr0Rob, how do you do that?
[02:03] <flush> kk
[02:03] <johnny_> the packages are installed
[02:03] <flush> but got any idea.. im damn bored of this
[02:03] <johnny_> but the options to generate things like ssl certs, and adding config files happen  is what i need
[02:03] <Retr0Rob> depends on the card.. do you know what brand?
[02:03] <IdleOne> johnny_: dpkg-reconfigure package
[02:03] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: Did you try going to System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media and see if auto-mount is enabled?
[02:03] <zonyl> anyone know anything about why feisty upstart not using kernel runlevel parameter?
[02:03] <johnny_> aha IdleOne that sounds more correct
[02:03] <musashi> Retr0Rob, is there a command i can use to find that, i thought it was nvidia
[02:03] <johnny_> i rarely have to do much with apt other than install and upgrade, since i'm mainly a gentoo user, but at our store we use all ubuntu
[02:04] <IdleOne> johnny_: I am not certain what package you are talking about though
[02:04] <johnny_> flumotion
[02:04] <youknowme> midnightoker, wow I'm still having a lot of trouble.
[02:04] <Retr0Rob> yep... hold on, I used to know it off the top of my head.
[02:04] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: it was automounting fine until I installed ntfs-3g but apparently after that it would never automount so I uninstalled it and after that its always like this
[02:04] <johnny_> that didn't do it IdleOne  it just tried to restart the server
[02:04] <johnny_>  which can't run without a cert and default config files
[02:05] <MidnighToker> youknowme: whats going on? what did you do? deleted some necicary files?
[02:05] <ban-evader> HA HA HA :) j/k
[02:05] <IdleOne> so johnny_ you need a place to add the config files?
[02:05] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: ntfs-3g is considered rather buggy in fiesty. However, it has been fixed in Gusty.
[02:05] <leg1> p.snt msg 2 wrng site.wheels dodgy bros diff ole fella same e/ml not right tlk sn
[02:05] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: it was working fine for me in edgy
[02:05] <youknowm1> midnightoke, no, unplugged my router to plug in the crosover cable to try again
[02:05] <johnny_> on a fresh install, it did actions like add config files, and generate a cert,  i deleted the config files because i modified them, and then expected apt to regenerate them on install  so i could get fresh ones
[02:05] <IdleOne> johnny_: locate flumotion should tell you where the app is installed
[02:06] <johnny_> but that is not happening
[02:06] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: any other way so it can automount on plugin ?
[02:06] <youknowm1> midnightoker, I still can't figure this out
[02:06] <johnny_> i know where it is installed for sure, they just aren't there after reinstalling the package
[02:06] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, cant figure what out? i have no idea what you're doing
[02:06] <Retr0Rob> OK, your gonna love this: I found a youtube vid for it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W2GL9mpsn4
[02:06] <Retr0Rob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W2GL9mpsn4
[02:07] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, sorry about this man, i'm in the middle of trying to get LVM working on another box. happy to help, just let me know again whats going on.
[02:07] <IdleOne> johnny_: you dont happen to have bakups do you?
[02:07] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: Not that I can think of. But I'm not a guru. So I'm very sorry I couldn't help you much. :(
[02:07] <johnny_> no.. this box was just installed lastnight
[02:07] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: np but ty for the help
[02:08] <kanjo> hi there, which POP3 server you guys recommend me to implement on Ubuntu?
[02:08] <johnny_> if i have to reinstall my entire system for 1 bad non system related package, i will be annoyed, that is a severe deficiency of apt if that is the case, and i doubt that it is so
[02:08] <Col^> Hey everyone
[02:08] <musashi> Retr0Rob, maybe ill just try to install it anyway
[02:08] <IdleOne> johnny_: sodu apt-get purge -remove flumotion & sudo apt-get install flumotion
[02:08] <johnny_> brb, please address all responses by by name
[02:08] <musashi> Retr0Rob, would it break anything >_>?
[02:09] <Flannel> johnny_: You need to remove with --purge (or 'completely remove' in synaptic) to reinstall config files.
[02:09] <Col^> Does anyone know how to get my games in wine executed with proper opengl?
[02:09] <Retr0Rob> well, if you use the restricted drivers app, it won't let you mess up.
[02:09] <Retr0Rob> if you use synaptic or automatix it could be bad.
[02:09] <musashi> Retr0Rob, i hate to ask, but could you explain ._.?
[02:09] <youknowm1> midnightoker, ok, what I mainly want to do is use vncviewer. If I connect the two computers (one running 6.10 the other 7.04) with the cat-5 crossover cable, and set both computers to dhcp. then they say they are connected. I never tried to ping one or the other (shoudl have) though. Then I get told I need to have them set with static IPs, this is where I am lost as to what to make the IPs.
[02:09] <johnny_> there we go Flannel !
[02:09] <johnny_> thank you
[02:10] <Retr0Rob> you can make a copy of your xorg.conf file
[02:10] <Flannel> Retr0Rob: Synaptic isn't bad.  Automatix is.
[02:10] <Retr0Rob> and it will save you if the install goes to heck
[02:10] <Retr0Rob> lol
[02:10] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, unless you have a dhcp server on one of the boxes, when they are conencted together there is a good chance it wont work. what are the IP addresses when they are connected to each other?
[02:10] <Retr0Rob> flannel
[02:10] <Col^> Retr0Rob, i am, however, in NFS Carbon it seems as if i run with a dx8 gfx or something... I'm missing different video options and so on.
[02:10] <musashi> darn what is the path to xorg.conf again
[02:10] <Retr0Rob> /etc/X11/
[02:11] <youknowm1> midnightoker, again, I am lost.
[02:11] <musashi> Retr0Rob, copy made, here goes nothing.
[02:11] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, you have the two computers connected together with a crossover cable. you have them both set to get IP addresses from the DHCP server -which is your router, which they are not connected to any more
[02:12] <Retr0Rob> OK, if x crashes after, rm the new xorg and cp the old one
[02:12] <musashi> Retr0Rob, actually i have to figure out how to install first :>
[02:12] <youknowm1> midnightoker, ok, I understand that now. but whats the next step?
[02:12] <musashi> Retr0Rob, brb
[02:13] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, what IP address does each computer have?
[02:13] <zonyl> col: did you setup in wineconfig?
[02:13] <MidnighToker> How do I set up SSH service on my Ubuntu box? searching for ssh and nothing in default repository?
[02:13] <gregorovius> anybody knows of a good GUI or tool to rip DVDs to x264?
[02:13] <IdleOne> !ssh | MidnighToker
[02:13] <ubotu> MidnighToker: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:13] <riotkittie> MidnighToker: install openssh-server  [i believe that is the pkg name] 
[02:13] <MidnighToker> gregorovius, DVD::RIP
[02:13] <e-voc> good nite
[02:14] <gregorovius> MidnighToker, I think it doesn't support that format
[02:14] <youknowm1> mdnightoker, ifconfig tells me this for eth0
[02:14] <youknowm1>  inet addr:192.168.1.46  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[02:14] <musashi> Retr0Rob, if i install the newest nvidia drivers, will it mess up my other operating systems :s?
[02:14] <Retr0Rob> no
[02:14] <MidnighToker> riotkittie, thanks man. cant believe i have VNC and no ssh :)
[02:14] <Retr0Rob> only effects ubuntu
[02:14] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, and the other box?
[02:15] <youknowm1> mdnightoker, 1 sec
[02:15] <Retr0Rob> if you get a freeze shut down
[02:15] <duarte> ol
[02:15] <Seeker`> hi
[02:15] <zengen> When I run apt-get I get a ton of errors from scrollkeeper.  They're all formatting errors (no end of tag, tag mismatch...).  I found something similar on the forum: sudo scrollkeeper-rebuilddb.  Will that work for my problem?
[02:15] <musashi> Retr0Rob, i found a perfect howto, someone installing beryl on feisty with nvidia drivers lol
[02:15] <duarte> brazilians???
[02:16] <Retr0Rob> excellent.
[02:16] <Retr0Rob> btw,
[02:16] <IdleOne> !br | duarte
[02:16] <ubotu> duarte: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:16] <Retr0Rob> if you just need the wobbly windows and cube
[02:16] <duarte> ok
[02:16] <ianm_> "need wobbly windows" heh
[02:16] <musashi> Retr0Rob, i like the cube thing
[02:16] <youknowm1> mdnightoker: 192.168.2.28
[02:17] <Retr0Rob> go to system-prefs-desktop effects
[02:17] <ianm_> Retr0Rob: I think that might be an oxymoron...
[02:17] <Retr0Rob> and enable.
[02:17] <Retr0Rob> lol
[02:17] <musashi> o.o
[02:17] <Col^> could i use nvidia-glx-new drivers for my 6600, with better effect than with the restricted drivers?
[02:17] <musashi> lol sec gotta activate new graphics driver
[02:17] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, they both need to be on the same network, so they both need to start with the same 192.168.1.x  -with the x being different on each box
[02:17] <cafuego> Col^: Those *are* the restricted drivers.
[02:18] <Retr0Rob> cross fingers
[02:18] <Col^> cafuego, ah ok
[02:18] <cafuego> Col^: they're the userspace part that plugs into X.
[02:18] <Col^> omg lingo i can't understand :) Userspace part?
[02:18] <youknowm1> mdnightoker, they aren't on the same network atm
[02:19] <Seeker`> Col^: IT isn't hooked directly into the kernel, so it doesn't violate the license stuff afaik
[02:19] <youknowm1> mdnightoker, do they need to be for me to figure this out
[02:19] <youknowm1> ?
[02:19] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, you told me they were connected together with a crossover cable. that is the same network. have you changed that?
[02:19] <Col^> ok Seeker`
[02:19] <MidnighToker> and please spell my name correctly, so it highlights in channel and i can see you're talking
[02:19] <davemlinux1> Is it safe to install the ubuntu-7.10-rc, and then make a apt-get dist-upgrade on the day of release?
[02:19] <Seeker`> davemlinux1: it is relatively stable now
[02:20] <Seeker`> davemlinux1: there shouldn't be (m)any changes, unless a huge bug is discovered
[02:20] <davemlinux1> By synaptic or aptitude
[02:20] <youknowm1> mdnightoker: the second computer and this computer I'm on are one in the same. I'm short one cat-5 cable to connect both computers to the router.
[02:20] <mrj> youknowm1, set the gateway to be the opposite computer, if you're on 192.168.2.1 and the other computers IP is 192.168.2.2, set the gateway on 2.1 to 2.2
[02:21] <rodrigo_> join #cacti
[02:21] <mrj> Why are you using a crossover and not a router?
[02:21] <musashi> Retr0Rob, wooo i got direct rendering = yes now ;)
[02:21] <RB2> I just installed 7.10 RC yesterday and it's been 100% stable for me.
[02:21] <Retr0Rob> awesome!
[02:21] <Retr0Rob> good work
[02:21] <davemlinux1> How do i have to configure my sources?
[02:21] <mrj> This channel has too many q/p/j messages it makes me want to stab myself
[02:21] <musashi> hmmm warning...
[02:21] <Seeker`> mrj: you can probably turn them off in your client
[02:21] <mrj> Seeker`, then I'd not see them globally, though
[02:21] <duarte> hi
[02:22] <Retr0Rob> whats the warning?
[02:22] <youknowm1> mrj, I have to many port forwarding problems with my router. I got sick of it.
[02:22] <Seeker`> mrj: thats a choice you have to wmake
[02:22] <davemlinux1> What do i need to change when becomes stable
[02:22] <RB2> Quick Question... in the terminal window, how do I send a function Key? (using ssh in the terminal window)
[02:22] <musashi> rofl so what is beryl for then?
[02:22] <mrj> Seeker`, no way, really?
[02:22] <duarte> kiba-dock for ubuntu 7.0
[02:22] <musashi> it said warning this is experimental
[02:22] <duarte> 7.10
[02:22] <musashi> or w/e
[02:22] <duarte> do you know?
[02:22] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, i dont understand how you have them connected together  -and please spell my name correctly, pm me or give up.
[02:23] <davemlinux1> In etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:23] <Retr0Rob> well, It gives you the pretty windows,
[02:23] <Seeker`> duarte: what do you want to know about 7.10?
[02:23] <Retr0Rob> whoo hoo!
[02:23] <duarte> repostory
[02:23] <duarte> sources.list
[02:23] <musashi> Retr0Rob, so what else does beryl do that makes it worth downloading? the 3d backround thing while rotating cube?
[02:23] <Wolf23> some body help please!! An error occured The playback of this movie requires a video/x-avi-unknown decoder plugin which is not installed.
[02:24] <musashi> Retr0Rob,  and uh how to i move the cube >_>
[02:24] <LjL> !codecs > Wolf23    (Wolf23, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:24] <mrj> musashi, it's a complete change of how actions/windows are handled
[02:24] <mrj> Wobbly windows, other various effects
[02:24] <musashi> ah
[02:24] <mrj> You either want it or you dont
[02:24] <mrj> We can't tell you to get it or not
[02:24] <abatshy> hi every 1
[02:24] <Retr0Rob> well, it has some nice window management stuff, but honestly the Compiz install that's built in to 7.04 is fine for me.
[02:24] <_ebirtaid> what would be a possible explanation for the fact that under pclinuxos I can detect and connect to wireless networks with ndiswrapper and a windows driver but under ubuntu, using the same driver, I can not detect any networks even though the driver is working?
[02:24] <Retr0Rob> It gives the wobblies, the cube and transparancy
[02:25] <caravena> Hello, problem with mi lapto. I upgrade to feisty to Gutsy, and not work fine the keyboard.
[02:25] <caravena>  Howto detect the package with problem?
[02:25] <caravena> * of
[02:25] <mrj> Wobbles + panel wall is great
[02:25] <Davy_Jones> what does the evms process do?  it says enterprise volume management system.. what does that mean and is this process necessary?
[02:25] <mrj> But I'm also on a heavy duty system
[02:25] <Faltzer> I need help with package management, allot of things corrupt after I upgrade using the upgrade manager.
[02:25] <youknowm1> midnightoker, two computers, I'm short one cable so they both can't be connected to the router at the same time for I need a third cable to connect the router to the modem. I CAN connect them with the crossover cable but they are not at the moment, I would need to disconnect myself from the net.
[02:25] <boselecta> caravena: ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:25] <Retr0Rob> BTW, 7.10 has copiz fusion enabled by default. supposed to be really pretty.
[02:26] <caravena> boselecta: Ok, thanks.
[02:26] <Retr0Rob> mrj are you on 7.10?
[02:26] <mrj> yup
[02:26] <disposition> anyone here a math/chemistry major that knows how to make trendline equations in gnumeric
[02:26] <mrj> I'm in XP right now, though
[02:26] <Davy_Jones> why is it not right to say 7.1?
[02:26] <musashi> Retr0Rob, so i can do the cool cube thing or is that only beryl where u move it around and stuff
[02:26] <Retr0Rob> is it stabile?
[02:26] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, ok, so if you disconnect the internet, and have both computers connected into the router (in the LAN ports) can the two computers ping each other?
[02:26] <Seeker`> youknowm1: So you have 2 patch cables and 1 crossover?
[02:26] <riotkittie> _ebirtaid: did you grab ndiswrapper from the repos? i've heard some people have better luck compiling from source
[02:26] <riotkittie> Davy_Jones: because 1 = january.
[02:26] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, is the modem/router connected with a crossover cable or patch?
[02:26] <Seeker`> Davy_Jones: it is 7.10 because it will be released in the 10th month of 2007
[02:26] <joshe> hola
[02:26] <Faltzer> Anybody?
[02:26] <disposition> this is really urgent. i'm working on a lab report due for tomorrow and gnumeric is NOT graphing a remotely correct trendline
[02:26] <Faltzer> =/
[02:27] <_ebirtaid> I've not tried compiling from source, it could be worth a try
[02:27] <mrj> Retr0Rob, It's stable, I have issues here and there but I can fix them. I wouldn't use it as a production OS due to the constant updates coming out
[02:27] <riotkittie> Davy_Jones: x.x is year.month
[02:27] <Davy_Jones> ok
[02:27] <Retr0Rob> musashi, yep you can move the cube thing. I show it to my Vista buddies. It drives um nuts!
[02:27] <_ebirtaid> it's odd that there would just be no scan results though
[02:27] <musashi> Retr0Rob, k how do i do that
[02:27] <musashi> >_>
[02:27] <Davy_Jones> so the first ubuntu was released in 2001?
[02:27] <youknowm1> seeker: yes
[02:27] <Retr0Rob> do you have desktop effects enabled?
[02:27] <bruenig> Davy_Jones, no
[02:27] <disposition> this is really urgent. i'm working on a lab report due for tomorrow and gnumeric is NOT graphing a remotely correct trendline. i keep setting the low bound for the lowest X value and the high bound as the highest X value, but the graph still forces the intercept to be zero.
[02:28] <disposition> 4.10
[02:28] <disposition> 2004, october
[02:28] <youknowm1> midnightoker, patch
[02:28] <musashi> yes i got da windows and workspaces on a cube
[02:28] <RB2> disposition: Did you try #gnumeric on irc.gnome.org ?
[02:28] <disposition> no, i will try that. thank you.
[02:28] <urbanhg> hey can anyone give me a hand im new to ubuntu and im trying to load music on to my ipod with rhythmbox
[02:28] <Seeker`> youknowm1: dont some routers allow you to use crossover cables instead of patch cables, and do some clever electronic stuff to fix it?
[02:28] <anolis> im kinda upset with the new compiz-fusion settings manager, mainly because i don't know how to get my happy fire animations on windows minimize/maximize
[02:28] <Retr0Rob> do a ctrl-alt and the right arrow key
[02:28] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, so if you want both computers connected to the router, you have to disconnect the internet, right?
[02:28] <mrj> Seeker`, It's called MDIX and it has to be on the NICs
[02:28] <Davy_Jones> anolis: as in either #compiz-fusion or #ubuntu-effects
[02:28] <youknowm1> midnightoker, yes
[02:28] <musashi> fail
[02:28] <musashi> nothing happened lol
[02:28] <Retr0Rob> then if you ctrl-alt and right mouse you can control it by mouse
[02:29] <RB2> The only problem I've had is getting 4 sides to my cube even after I reduce down to 1 workspace.
[02:29] <Davy_Jones> ask*
[02:29] <getnthevan4candy> Odd.
[02:29] <getnthevan4candy> I still can't get my wireless to work.
[02:29] <getnthevan4candy> :I
[02:29] <riotkittie> anolis: i can only speak of the one in gutsy but its animations > fourth tab in there
[02:29] <mrj> That's because you're from /b/
[02:29] <disposition> anyone know what the best trendline program is for linux?
[02:29] <youknowm1> seeker, I'm not sure
[02:29] <disposition> or spreadsheet program?
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[02:29] <youknowm1> seeker, I could try
[02:29] <abatshy> hey every girl i have cam and iam so hot if any girl wanna to see mu dick and make her cunt wet pm me plz bye
[02:29] <abatshy> hey every girl i have cam and iam so hot if any girl wanna to see mu dick and make her cunt wet pm me plz bye
[02:29] <abatshy> hey every girl i have cam and iam so hot if any girl wanna to see mu dick and make her cunt wet pm me plz bye
[02:29] <Seeker`> youknowm1: have you tried it?
[02:29] <abatshy> hey every girl i have cam and iam so hot if any girl wanna to see mu dick and make her cunt wet pm me plz bye
[02:29] <_ebirtaid> nice
[02:29] <Seeker`> !ops | abatshy
[02:29] <ubotu> abatshy: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[02:29] <mrj> kline
[02:29] <_ebirtaid> moron
[02:29] <abatshy> hey every girl i have cam and iam so hot if any girl wanna to see mu dick and make her cunt wet pm me plz bye
[02:29] <Retr0Rob> I have had to log out and in again after enabling the cube.
[02:29] <Davy_Jones> hehehhehe
[02:30] <jeffreyf> Linksys Broadcom driver?
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> disposition: Try OpenOffice Calc
[02:30] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, ok, so assuming they are both connected to the router, they should both have an IP address that starts with the same first three sections the same (xxx.xxx.xxx.different) -and they should be able to ping each other
[02:30] <Retr0Rob> the windows wobble right?
[02:30] <musashi> ah ok
[02:30] <cafuego> Oh!
[02:30] <disposition> it doesn't enter trendline equations
[02:30] <LjL> what the chanserv
[02:30] <urbanhg> do any of you fine folks know how to get an ipod to work with rhythmbox
[02:30] <mrj> well, at least the girl booted him out, so that wasn't completely in vain for him
[02:30] <youknowm1> seeker, no, I will right now
[02:30] <smultron> urbanhg: do you have the plugin enabled in rhythmbox?
[02:30] <urbanhg> yeah
[02:30] <youknowm1> midnightoker, yes, I'll try that right now, brb
[02:31] <urbanhg> somehow i deleted all of my music from the pod...
[02:31] <Seeker`> youknowm1: make the crossover connection between one of the computers and the router
[02:31] <wilberfan> Windows and Ubuntu don't set the system clock the same way, do they?
[02:31] <urbanhg> and when i try to add more music i get an error sayind device full
[02:31] <duarte> brazilian
[02:31] <bad_cables> i forgot my password for my user and root
[02:31] <magic_ninja> does anyone know the mozilla gecko package name
[02:31] <bad_cables> but i am logged in now
[02:31] <MidnighToker> Seeker`, i dont think there is a crossover cable in play, just confusion
[02:31] <wilberfan> If I change the system time in Windows, the next time I boot into Ubuntu it says the partitions were mounted in the future...
[02:31] <eboyjr> How do I find out the path of the Ubuntu Desktop Wallpaper? and... when is Ubuntu Gutsy or Gusty coming?
[02:31] <smultron> urbanhg: hm. sorry. i'm not sure
[02:31] <wilberfan> Is there any way to get them to play nice?
[02:32] <bad_cables> anyone know how to get your own passwd?
[02:32] <Seeker`> MidnighToker: I got the impression that there were 2 patch and 1 xover, and he just didn't know waht to do
[02:32] <Davy_Jones> eboyjr: go to ubuntu.com to find out when gutsy will be out
[02:32] <urbanhg> haha and this time i just tried it and rbox... just simply closed on me lol
[02:32] <Tm_T> cafuego: did you?
[02:32] <Faltzer> Can I please get help on the Ubuntu Package Manager?
[02:32] <Odd-rationale> eboyjr: /usr/share/backgrounds
[02:32] <MidnighToker> wilberfan, thats cos windows sets the computers local time into the bios, you need to tell ubuntu your system clock is actually local not GMT
[02:32] <bad_cables> please tell me before the power goes out
[02:32] <Faltzer> I'm using Feisty Fawn, 7.04
[02:32] <RB2> bad_cables: open a terminal window and type: passwd
[02:32] <Wolf23> LjL: thanx but i have installed all packages, the onlyone that is to open that file that i have paste here
[02:32] <MidnighToker> not sure how to set on ubuntu
[02:32] <eboyjr> Odd-rationale, awesome, thanks
[02:32] <wilberfan> MidnighToker, oh, cool...  do you remember how to do that??
[02:32] <cafuego> Tm_T: sry, typing with one hnd
[02:32] <bad_cables> yeah passwd... you know what it is>
[02:32] <bad_cables> ?
[02:32] <KidMan> What does "Error in Service Module" mean? How can I fix it?
[02:32] <MidnighToker> Seeker`, possibly... let him see what happens
[02:32] <Davy_Jones> Faltzer: would be better to ask the question than ask if anyone knows
[02:33] <RB2> bad_cables: It allows you to reset the password
[02:33] <MidnighToker> wilberfan, i have no idea on ubuntu, i come from a gentoo background, hang on and i'll look
[02:33] <Tm_T> cafuego: there's no laws for handsfree?
[02:33] <wilberfan> MidnighToker, I have the "Use UTC" box UN-checked...
[02:33] <bad_cables> RB2: only if you know your oldone
[02:33] <mrj> Seeker`, you do realize "patch" is the wrong terminology right?
[02:33] <Retr0Rob> hey, got a cure for the "No Cube"
[02:33] <mrj> Patch has nothing to do with a cables pin-outs
[02:33] <Flannel> bad_cables: You can't get your own password, you can just re-set it to somethign known.
[02:33] <eboyjr> Davy_Jones, Thanks, 3 days to go
[02:33] <Retr0Rob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=429231
[02:33] <wilberfan> MidnighToker, "Clock preferences"
[02:33] <MidnighToker> mrj: Seeker` "straight through..." or X-over
[02:33] <Davy_Jones> eboyjr: np
[02:33] <Seeker`> mrj: I've always heard them referred to as crossover or patch
[02:34] <bad_cables> Flannel, how do you reset it...
[02:34] <Flannel> bad_cables: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[02:34] <mrj> Seeker`, crossover, straight through, or rolled
[02:34] <mrj> roll/over
[02:34] <mrj> patch has nothing to do with pin outs
[02:34] <disposition> wow
[02:34] <Seeker`> ok
[02:34] <disposition> when it comes to spreadsheets
[02:34] <mrj> patch = short cable
[02:34] <disposition> linux loses the battle :P
[02:34] <mrj> just so we dont confuse each other
[02:34] <KidMan> What does "Error in Service Module" mean? How can I fix it?
[02:35] <Retr0Rob> musashi, check out this on the forum
[02:35] <musashi> Retr0Rob, im just gonna get beryl
[02:35] <Retr0Rob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=429231
[02:35] <RB2> Anyone know how I send a function key to the terminal window without Gnome intercepting it?
[02:35] <Retr0Rob> nothing bad about Beryl, it's good stuff!
[02:36] <youknowme> seeker, did not work, crossover can't act as a patch in this case
[02:36] <Faltzer> Can I please get help on the Ubuntu Package Manager?
[02:36] <youknowme> midnightoker: IPs are the same as before when both connected to the samerouter
[02:36] <musashi> Retr0Rob, yea that doesnt work
[02:37] <musashi> Retr0Rob, ill try the walkthrough, and thanks again
[02:37] <unagi_> someone say my name really quick i need to test something
[02:37] <Faltzer> unagi_
[02:37] <youknowme> unagi_
[02:37] <unagi_> thank you
[02:37] <Retr0Rob> no problem, you got the hard part handled.
[02:37] <bad_cables> ok thanks
[02:37] <Faltzer> Can I please get help on the Ubuntu Package Manager, please? I've already reformatted 3 times, and still no success.
[02:38] <Seeker`> Faltzer: What problem are you having?
[02:38] <RB2>  Faltzer: What are the symptoms?
[02:38] <mrj> youknowme, Did you set the gateways like I said?
[02:39] <Faltzer> Seeker` it seems as if my OS Is corrupt somehow.
[02:39] <musashi> Retr0Rob, got it to work w/o beryl
[02:39] <Seeker`> Faltzer: Any error messages etc?
[02:39] <Retr0Rob> excellent!
[02:39] <youknowme> mrj, haven't got that far. still testing IPs and such because apparently they matter greatly
[02:39] <Seeker`> Faltzer: We need a better description of what is wrong to actually work out what the problem is
[02:39] <youknowme> mrj, hold on I'll try again
[02:39] <dezelin> how do i speed up deluge torrent client?
[02:39] <Retr0Rob> yeah, I just fixed mine lol, I set mine to 1 desktop
[02:39] <mrj> youknowme, uh.. yeah, they're rather important to the tcp/ip stack. You need to set the gateway to be the opposite computers
[02:40] <Faltzer>  Seeker`: It's hard to explain, but when I open synaptic it closes automatically.
[02:40] <Gorthax> Hello friends
[02:40] <Faltzer>  Seeker`: And so does add/remove applications
[02:40] <musashi> Retr0Rob, can u make all 6 sides a desktop, or no? just 4?
[02:40] <Seeker`> Faltzer: what about if you start them from the command line?
[02:40] <Faltzer>  Seeker`: It's like the system is preventing me from doing something to anything having to do with program management
[02:40] <Gorthax> ive been trying to find a resolution to my problem to no avail.  I want to modify my System Panels, including changing the font color.  Could someone point me in the direction....?
[02:40] <Odd-rationale> musashi: I can have up to 32 :)
[02:40] <Retr0Rob> hmm. Ive only done 4. 6 would be cool
[02:40] <vvd> hehe
[02:41] <musashi> Odd-rationale, rofl 32 sided polygon
[02:41] <Faltzer>  Seeker` I start synaptic via CMD but still closes.
[02:41] <Faltzer> Now
[02:41] <Faltzer>  Seeker` if I run apt-get install -f I get a small message
[02:41] <Gorthax> <Gnome 2.18
[02:41] <emmajane> Gorthax, have you tried the "font preferences" under "system"?
[02:41] <edubuntu> apt-get massage!
[02:41] <Seeker`> Faltzer: do you get an error message if you start synaptic from the command line?
[02:41] <emmajane> gorthax: there's a "details" button which appears to contain color options
[02:41] <youknowme> mrj, 192.168.2.1 and 192.168.2.2 with the mask set to 255.255.255.0 and the gateway set to 1.2 and 2.1?
[02:42] <Faltzer>  Seeker`: No... It opens but closes it.
[02:42] <Seeker`> Faltzer: no terminal output at all?
[02:42] <Seeker`> Faltzer: And what is the message you get iwht apt-get install -f?
[02:42] <youknowme> mrj, gateway set to 2.2 and 2.1.
[02:42] <musashi> Retr0Rob,  yea i like this im going to get beryl
[02:42] <mrj> youknowme, yes the gateway is the OTHEr computer
[02:42] <Faltzer>  Seeker`:  The message for apt-get install -f is 'Segmentation Fault (core dumped)'
[02:43] <edubuntu> Does beryl eat rescources
[02:43] <youknowme> mrj, ok brb
[02:43] <Seeker`> Faltzer: you say this has happened 3 times?
[02:43] <Retr0Rob> It is nice. btw, looks like I just have 6 sides, no top or bottom.
[02:43] <Faltzer> Seeker`: Yes, and this only happens after running the update manager
[02:43] <musashi> Retr0Rob, i have 4 desktops and the top says ubuntu, bottom is blank
[02:43] <Odd-rationale> musashi: I'm using compiz-fusion on Gusty. I don't know how desktops you can have in beryl
[02:43] <Seeker`> Faltzer: which version of ubuntu?
[02:43] <emmajane> Gorthax: or perhaps in system -> theme
[02:43] <musashi> Odd-rationale, ah ok
[02:44] <Faltzer> Seeker`: Feisty Fawn
[02:44] <jeffreyf> Feisty Fawn: Driver for Linksys Wireless
[02:44] <jeffreyf> ?
[02:44] <musashi> man wobbly windows hurts my eyes
[02:44] <musashi> and i already have a headace ><
[02:44] <musashi> had*
[02:44] <joshe> Muy buenas alguien quehables espaol para hacerle una pregunta?
[02:45] <riotkittie> !es | joshe
[02:45] <ubotu> joshe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:46] <alpine> i cannot get skype to launch upon startup. i added it to the startup menu through Sessions with the command line "skype." it still does not launch upon startup. is that the right command line?
[02:46] <Faltzer> Seeker`: In addition, my Ubuntu freezes often. It forces me to restart via without the normal process often.
[02:46] <Faltzer> Seeker`: I have like 384 MB RAM
[02:47] <Seeker`> Faltzer: can I see your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:47] <Seeker`> Faltzer: You should pastebin it
[02:47] <Seeker`> !pastebin
[02:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:47] <diafic_> sleep now. night.
[02:48] <alpine> any help with the startup menu please?
[02:48] <Seeker`> Faltzer: also, try "sudo aptitude update"
[02:48] <Gorthax> what kind of help alpine?
[02:48] <youknowme> j
[02:49] <Gorthax> oh, just read up
[02:49] <Faltzer> Seeker`: What does the command you specified do?
[02:49] <Seeker`> Faltzer: its an alternative to apt-get update
[02:49] <alpine> i thought it launches skype.
[02:49] <alpine> i didn't know what to put under command line
[02:49] <Faltzer> Seeker`: I tried it, but I'll paste bin both the output for aptitude and the file you indicated.
[02:50] <youknowme> mrj, ok, the computers can ping each other when connected with the crossover cable but when I try to use vnc I get
[02:50] <youknowme> Couldn't convert 'joe-desktop' to host address
[02:50] <youknowme> Unable to connect to VNC server
[02:50] <alpine> Gorthax: I am trying to get skype to launch upon startup.
[02:51] <Faltzer> Seeker`:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40759/  That's the /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:51] <mneptok> Faltzer: and please use apt-get instead of aptitude
[02:51] <vbabiy-Laptop> what is the motu room
[02:51] <vbabiy-Laptop> !motu
[02:51] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:51] <Faltzer> mneptok: Why, though? SOrry for being too curious.
[02:51] <mneptok> Faltzer: it is getting more attention and feature improvements vis-a-vis dist-upgrades tahn is aptitude
[02:52] <Faltzer> Seeker`: And this is the aptitude output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40761/
[02:52] <Seeker`> mneptok: I read in a bug report that doing aptitude update solved a similar problem
[02:52] <alpine> is there some kind of protocol for how questions are asked and answered? do i have to wait in line?
[02:52] <mrj> youknowme, joe-desktop = an ip address right, and you just changed it to joe-desktop to clean it up or something?
[02:52] <Faltzer> mneptok: Okay, will apt-get be deprecated in the future?
[02:52] <mneptok> Faltzer: you cannot launch synaptic with sudo
[02:53] <Seeker`> Faltzer: now try running synaptic
[02:53] <Retr0Rob> Retr0rob
[02:53] <jeffreyf> Where can I find a driver for Linksys Wireless (I think it is Broadcom)
[02:53] <mrj> alpine, no, because us volunteers cant answer every single question, so ask it and we'll try
[02:53] <mrj> youknowme, you need to enter the ip, not "joes-desktop" if thats what you're doing
[02:53] <alpine> I am trying to get skype to launch upon startup.
[02:54] <Faltzer> mneptok: Neither can I launch it without.
[02:54] <Faltzer> Seeker`: Still not working.
[02:54] <alpine> I added it to the startup list under Sessions
[02:54] <Seeker`> Faltzer: use gksudo to launch it from the command line
[02:54] <mneptok> Faltzer: any GUI app needs to be invoked with gksudo, not sudo
[02:54] <Seeker`> Faltzer: sorry, i dont know what could be causing it - I need to leave now as I have to be up in 7 hours
[02:55] <Faltzer> Seeker`: Still doesn't work. Okay..
[02:55] <Seeker`> Faltzer: good luck
[02:55] <Faltzer> mneptok: It used to work with sudo though.
[02:55] <Retr0Rob_> Retr0Rob
[02:56] <Marsly1> Excuse me, but what is "Ubuntu Gutsy"?
[02:56] <Retr0Rob_> Ubuntu 7.10
[02:56] <mneptok> Faltzer: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:56] <noway-> Marsly1, its the next version of Ubuntu
[02:57] <amr> hello , how to mute my laptop speakers on pluging in my headphone
[02:57] <Retr0Rob_> amr, what kind of computer?
[02:57] <Marsly1> So, Gutsy and Gutsy Gibbon are the same?
[02:57] <LjL> yes
[02:58] <Retr0Rob_> Some compaq laptops will not turn off.
[02:58] <Faltzer> mneptok: *sigh* I think this is once again an OS related problem.
[02:58] <Faltzer> It returns a Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
[02:58] <Odd-rationale> Marsly1: Yes
[02:58] <iownyou> hey can anybody help me with picking a linux distro?
[02:58] <magic_ninja> does anyone have experience running steam
[02:59] <amr> Retr0Rob_ : intel hda on fujistu seimens aMILO 1505
[02:59] <Exilio> hi
[02:59] <Exilio> wath is grub error 17
[02:59] <Retr0Rob_> OK, it may have the same, but try this....
[02:59] <Marsly1> If anyone would be able to take the time to read this first forum post, and explain to me if the commands can only work in "Gutsty"... I would apreciate it --- Link --- http://luxrender.org/forum/frameset.html
[02:59] <Retr0Rob_> double click on the volume icon
[03:00] <Retr0Rob_> find the switches tab and click on it
[03:00] <MidnighToker> during setup i set 800x600 as max resolution. i've just upgraded the monitor and it wont let me change it to anything higher. help please.
[03:00] <iStiKs> Marsly1: thats an invalid link
[03:00] <Odd-rationale> iownyou: I would go with Ubuntu! But were are some quizes which might help you get started with your own choice: http://polishlinux.org/choose/quiz/  http://www.tuxs.org/chooser/
[03:00] <musashi> oook that was odd
[03:01] <Gorthax> midnight, google for it.  There is a specific answer on the Ubuntu forums
[03:01] <Marsly1> iStiKs: oooh, 1 sec
[03:01] <MidnighToker> Gorthax, ta
[03:01] <Gorthax> you need to run the xorg configuration
[03:01] <Marsly1> *Sorry* For huge post :( --- First: This is just really, really great news!!!
[03:01] <Marsly1> I just compiled Lux and here is what I had to do:
[03:01] <Marsly1> Compiling Lux in Ubuntu Gutsy:
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install cvs
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install bison
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install flex
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install libboost-dev
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install libfltk1.1-dev
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install libboost-thread-dev
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install libboost-date-time-dev
[03:01] <Marsly1> And then just follow this:
[03:01] <Marsly1> http://www.luxrender.org/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=70
[03:01] <Marsly1> Hope this is useful for others.
[03:01] <cappicard> whoa...
[03:02] <mrj> dude, pastebin
[03:02] <Marsly1> *wince* sorry...
[03:02] <musashi> Retr0Rob, i executed beryl manager and the scren did something but it still has the command running in terminal
[03:04] <NemesisD> what would cause an ethernet device to just stop being able to connect to the internet. I am possibly looking in the wrong place but the best clue I have is dmesg saying link is not ready
[03:04] <Gorthax> Midnight, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[03:04] <Retr0Rob_> last time i used beryl I had to choose an xgl session from the login screen
[03:04] <Gorthax> or, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052
[03:05] <ae88925> NemesisD: do you have a link light?
[03:05] <Retr0Rob_> Last time I had Beryl was in 6.10
[03:06] <NemesisD> ae88925, i can check, this is somebody else's computer so I'm kind of doing support over the phone
[03:06] <NemesisD> ae88925, anything else i should look for? i tailed /var/log/syslog but the person claimed there was nothing of interest
[03:06] <NemesisD> im about to call them right now
[03:07] <ae88925> plug, and unplug the ethernet a few times.  dmesg|grep eth0 <-- assuming "eth0" is correct should show link up, link down.
[03:07] <bitwiseshiftleft> anyone know a good way to get power consumption down on Ubuntu?
[03:07] <NemesisD> ae88925, i believe it's pci, how would i do that safely?
[03:07] <ae88925> If it's a cable modem, router, or DSL router, reset the box.
[03:08] <ae88925> Just unplug the ethernet cable, don't remove the card
[03:08] <NemesisD> oh ok
[03:08] <mneptok> Faltzer: at what point does it segfault?
[03:08] <NemesisD> ae88925, should i need to do ifup/ifdown?
[03:08] <ae88925> possibly, yes.  But verify link first.
[03:08] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: which version?
[03:09] <NemesisD> ok, ill call now
[03:09] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: gutsy
[03:09] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: but it shouldn't matter that much, should it?
[03:09] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: then you already have the new tickless kernel
[03:09] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: and yes, it does.
[03:10] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: actually, i'm on 64-bit, but i have a tickless kernel anyway... i upgraded to 2.6.23-mm1
[03:10] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: but that only shaves like half a watt
[03:10] <zengen> I'm trying to compile easytag with mp4 support, but it keeps asking for libmp4v2.  I have libmp4v2 and libmp4v2-dev installed.  Is it referring to some other package I need?
[03:11] <markelhas> can some one help me to config dwl-650M rev 2?
[03:11] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: try breaking the srceen off ;)
[03:11] <mneptok> *screen
[03:12] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: this advice is given AS IS, with no warrantee for blah blah
[03:12] <markelhas> i've isntalled the ndis and load the windows driver but onli link led is active and can't list the pci card
[03:12] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: thanks for considering that "advice." very generous of you. :)
[03:12] <jeffreyf> Anyone know of LInksys Wireless Drivers?
[03:12] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: but basically i'm annoyed that windows has 30% lower power consumption than linux
[03:13] <ae88925> zengen, run ./configure --help.  Try to see if it requires a --with-libmp4v2 argument.  Maybe it's looking somewhere for the lib other than where Ubuntu puts it by default.
[03:13] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: got any daemon processes that aren't 100 % necessary? keep them from waking the kernel.
[03:14] <markelhas> any wireless expert aroun?
[03:14] <Faltzer> <_<
[03:14] <mneptok> markelhas: i am, but you won't like my answer.
[03:14] <Faltzer> Here comes another OS Re-imaging
[03:14] <ae88925> disclaimer: I have no knowledge of easytag or libmp4v2, but have had to specify --with-XXX in the past
[03:14] <Faltzer> For the 4th time
[03:14] <markelhas> mneptok, why?
[03:15] <MidnighToker> for a geforce4 do i want to use the NV or nvidia driver? -wanting 3D support
[03:15] <mneptok> markelhas: because i'll tell you to buy supported hardware from companies that care about users.
[03:15] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: not really?  i mean, i turned off trackerd.  i tried turning off compiz, but that didn't help much
[03:15] <mneptok> MidnighToker: nvidia
[03:15] <bitwiseshiftleft> and compiz is shiny
[03:15] <markelhas> mneptok, yestarday i've managed to put the card working but after a reboot the card don't work any more
[03:15] <zengen> ae88925:  ./configure says it's enabled by default.  I found 2 libmp4v2 files in /usr/lib and tried setting the path in ./configure, but it still doesn't work.  If that was even the correct way to try to fix it...
[03:15] <MidnighToker> mneptok, thanks
[03:15] <markelhas> mneptok, ok :(
[03:15] <Sitherae> Where can I find G++ after I have installed it?
[03:16] <mneptok> markelhas: Cardbus?
[03:16] <moppit> MidnighToker: Double Check, with the Geforce4 you may want the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers
[03:16] <markelhas> mneptok, pci wirelles
[03:16] <mneptok> markelhas: standby
[03:16] <Shpook> Hello everyone
[03:16] <cafuego> zengen: the default libmp4v2 in feisty is broken
[03:16] <ae88925> zengen:  is ld reporting the error?
[03:16] <tt_> A friend who gives me a shell on his machine recently upgraded to 7.10 and I found VIM was built w/o a default compile-time option I depend on somewhat.  Any idea what's up with that?
[03:16] <endra> hey, when do I select "guided - use entire disk and set up LVM" in the partition area?
[03:16] <zengen> ae88925:  This is gutsy.  Should I be in +1?
[03:17] <mneptok> markelhas: you in the US?
[03:17] <Sitherae> How can I execute GNU G++?
[03:17] <Shpook> Anyone else have freezing issues with Gutsy, that only seem to happen in Firefox while using the scroll wheel?
[03:17] <zengen> err, caguego
[03:17] <cafuego> zengen: Well... maybe :-)
[03:17] <zengen> Okay, thanks.
[03:17] <cafuego> zengen: is the souce package for it still faad?
[03:17] <mneptok> Shpook: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions
[03:17] <markelhas> mneptok, just for remark i've test so many thing yestardy that i don't really now want revolve the problem. however i remember that i've used ndis and mad wifi.
[03:17] <MidnighToker> moppit thanks
[03:17] <Shpook> ooh, okay, thx
[03:17] <zengen> cafuego: I don't know what that means.
[03:17] <endra> As opposed to not using LVM.. It is an old 6.5GB hdd, 128MB ram 530mhz i586 trying to install XUBUNTU. Question is should I select Guided - use entire disk or use entire disk and set up LVM?
[03:18] <mneptok> markelhas: what brand and model of card?
[03:18] <tdo__> ol
[03:18] <tdo__> algum ai
[03:18] <Sitherae> How do I execute the GNU C++ Compiler?
[03:18] <tdo__> ?
[03:18] <mneptok> !es > tdo__
[03:18] <cafuego> endra: On that setup I wouldn't bother with lvm.
[03:18] <ae88925> Sitherae: assuming it's intalled, run 'g++'
[03:18] <Flannel> eton: If you've only got one HDD, you wont get much out of LVM
[03:18] <endra> cafuego: okay, thanks
[03:18] <gerro> MasterShrek: fixed my comp up, turns out there was a bios fast boot option for win95 blocking most the system information. Also the extra memory wasnt plugged in right. Still no direct rendering but working on that ^^
[03:18] <mneptok> markelhas: hello?
[03:19] <markelhas> mneptok, D-link DWL-G650M rev 3.00, and yesterday it reconize has atheros i think.
[03:19] <endra> cafuego: the reason I ask is because grub was failing to install, not sure if it has to do with it or not.
[03:19] <Sitherae> ae88925: What is the shortcut to bring up the run thing?
[03:19] <cafuego> endra: Nah, shouldn't anyway.
[03:19] <mneptok> markelhas: that uses a chipset that is as yet unsupported by MadWiFi
[03:20] <mneptok> markelhas: you in the US?
[03:20] <gerro> endra: grub 17?
[03:20] <ae88925> Sitherae: Ouch, start reading about Eclipse or gnome-terminal
[03:20] <endra> gerro: no, it just wouldn't install
[03:20] <endra> gerro: fails to copy into MBR
[03:20] <markelhas> mneptok, nop
[03:20] <Sitherae> ae88925: I mean like.. there is a shortcut to bring it up..
[03:20] <gerro> endra: odd.. check the pins on your hard drive to see which mode its in perhaps it has protection on the mbr
[03:20] <ae88925> GNU C++ is just a command-line compiler, not an IDE
[03:20] <mneptok> markelhas: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[03:20] <markelhas> mneptok, so i guess it was the ndis that solve my problem. but now i try the drive and doesn't work
[03:20] <endra> gerro: it is in a laptop
[03:21] <endra> gerro: not my laptop at that, so I don't want to open it.
[03:21] <gerro> endra: hey it could happen...
[03:21] <tdo__> eeeiiiii
[03:21] <Sitherae> ae88925: I tried executing it.. Says no input..
[03:21] <Flannel> Sitherae: alt-f2
[03:21] <tdo__> algum fala portugus?
[03:21] <Flannel> !pt | tdo__
[03:21] <ubotu> tdo__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:21] <Sitherae> Flannel: Ty
[03:21] <tdo__> Alguien hablas espanol?
[03:21] <gerro> endra: you have a computer you have never opened!? wow thats like saving a christmas present until july
[03:21] <markelhas> mneptok, is any form to recover that good config?
[03:22] <Pici> tdo__: por favor escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[03:22] <endra> gerro: I have a laptop that I'm fixing for a friend that I have never opened
[03:22] <Sitherae> Hey. Im trying to burn the Unbuntu iso to a DVD. What is the best software to do so?
[03:22] <ae88925> Sitherae: You will need to do one of two things:  1. Use a regular text editor to create your sources and open a terminal to compile   OR   2. Find an IDE (like Eclipse)
[03:22] <gerro> endra: cant fix it without opening it :P
[03:22] <Sitherae> ae88925: ty
[03:22] <ae88925> start with man g++
[03:22] <Flannel> !burn | Sitherae
[03:22] <ubotu> Sitherae: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:23] <mneptok> markelhas: i do not use, support, nor recommend ndiswrapper. sorry.
[03:23] <Sitherae> ty
[03:23] <markelhas> mneptok, hummm dammmm
[03:23] <gerro> endra: so what is the story behind this laptop? what you trying to setup?
[03:23] <kuja_> How do I install fonts without using ~/.fonts, instead I want to install fonts the way ttf-* packages do.
[03:24] <endra> gerro: not windows :P
[03:24] <underwatercow> Firestarter uses iptables, doesn't it?
[03:24] <Pici> underwatercow: yes.
[03:24] <gerro> endra: what are its specs?
[03:24] <endra> gerro: it is a very old laptop, 530mhz AMD K6 128MB ram 6.5GB hdd i586
[03:24] <endra> gerro: My game boy screen is bigger than its monitor
[03:24] <endra> gerro: and I can't take a piss without it's battery running out
[03:24] <gerro> endra: ah might want to use blackbox then, Im fixing up a comp for my cousin its 500mhz with 128mb ram
[03:24] <endra> gerro: and I'm trying to install XUBUNTU on it
[03:25] <endra> blackbox?
[03:25] <gerro> endra: yeah it has a panel and you right click to choose programs to run. none of that desktop flash stuff
[03:25] <markelhas> mneptok, i've also used a asus wl-107g and this one connect right but when i try to transfer files over home network it takes 2x of my 11mb/s card :(. And the dlink solve that problem. but now i cant put it to work.
[03:25] <Flannel> endra: either way, you're best off getting the alternate CD to install from, if you don't aleady have it
[03:25] <mneptok> endra: no full desktop environment (GNOME, KDE, or XFCE) will be very fun on that hardware
[03:25] <gerro> endra: I use all of xubuntu xfce apps like taskmanager and thunar. Runs super fast ^^
[03:26] <marko-ubuntu> hmm is firestarter safe today, last time i used it it blocket all my traffic after some ours
[03:26] <bruenig> gerro, task manager?
[03:26] <bqmassey> anyone know any open-source, linux fitness/diet applications?
[03:26] <gerro> bruenig: xfce4-taskmanager
[03:26] <endra> Flannel: I am using the alternate cd of xubuntu
[03:26] <moppit> No but I have an issue of 2600 that talks about a hacker diet... (It wasn't very good)
[03:26] <mrj> bqmassey, even in Windows I used website apps for that
[03:26] <endra> mneptok: just need a web browser and pidgin for her
[03:27] <mrj> bqmassey, fitday.com or something along those lines, i havent used it recently
[03:27] <bruenig> oh I just use htop
[03:27] <bqmassey> mrj: cool.. i'll check that out
[03:27] <mneptok> endra: OpenBox + Dillo
[03:27] <endra> gerro: wait so I install xubuntu with blackbox instead of xcfe?
[03:27] <bqmassey> mrj: I wish I was better at programming.. i'd make something
[03:27] <gerro> endra: also try to optimize firefox for slow computer but fast connection that way it depends more on network than cpu to render pages
[03:27] <mneptok> endra: start with and install the server version. then add OpenBok, Dillo, Pidgin, and whatever else.
[03:28] <mneptok> *OpenBox
[03:28] <endra> guys keep in mind this is for someone who knows nothing of linux, so it has to be relatively simple for her to open up browser/pidgin
[03:28] <mrj> bqmassey, yeah i mean, i prefer it online anyway, i can check it and modify it whenever. i used to workout/box about 6 months ago and had to put on 35lbs or so
[03:28] <mneptok> endra: OpenBox is very familiar to most users
[03:28] <gerro> endra: you just apt-get install blackbox then on login choose session then pick the other one. You can also have gnome, kde, etc all on one system.
[03:28] <endra> mneptok: of xubuntu?
[03:28] <mneptok> endra: start with and install the server version. then add OpenBox, Dillo, Pidgin, and whatever else.
[03:29] <mneptok> i.e DO NOT USE THE XUBUNTU CD
[03:29] <endra> mneptok: I heard you the first time. Server version of XUBUNTU?
[03:29] <endra> so server version of what?
[03:29] <gerro> endra: its even faster if you remove gdm and login then do startx to load graphical system. (like 10mb less memory wasted) If you want fancy login use ascii art
[03:29] <mneptok> there is no server version of Xubuntu
[03:29] <Shpook> Can someone tell me what logfile I would check to see why my system freezes?
[03:29] <endra> so .. server version of what?
[03:29] <mneptok> the server version has no GUI by default
[03:29] <bqmassey> mrj: box any more?
[03:29] <gotama> Hi! How do I copy all files from /opt/ltsp/i386 to /opt/ltsp/i386_backup without losing a single byte. Help please
[03:29] <Dialntone> whats' the deal with fiesty, and gusty
[03:30] <Dialntone> i dont' understand
[03:30] <gerro> endra: I just grabbed ubuntu 7.04 server and did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and removed all the desktop environment window managing stuff
[03:30] <endra> mneptok: either you're not very clear or I'm very slow. Server version of what exactly?
[03:30] <Blindraven> Why is it that people always refer new people to openbox/fluxbox/sweet.f.a to new users - does it make them feel elitest/hardcore? because its pretty stupid. they are going to see their next.to.nothing desktop have no idea and insert that M$ disc in a flash.
[03:30] <jdong> endra: Ubuntu
[03:30] <mrj> bqmassey, well it was muay thai, but now, I just my job and have been too broke to afford it + the diet, etc. I pretty much lost all my gains after 2 months.
[03:30] <Dialntone> server version.. ?
[03:30] <jdong> endra: there is only a server version of Ubuntu -- it installs a minimal command-line install
[03:30] <ae88925> Dial: Fiesty is 7.04 and Gutsy is 7.10
[03:30] <endra> gerro: ah, well at this instant im installing xubuntu command line, isn't it the same thing/
[03:30] <Dialntone> gusty is better :)
[03:30] <mneptok> endra: the server version has no GUI. how would the server version of Ubuntu be different from Kubuntu in that case?
[03:31] <Shpook> Blindraven: lol, that happened to me when I first installed linux. I was completely turned off by fluxbox.
[03:31] <bottiger> sometimes my sound in feisty disapears. restarting alsa-utils doesn't work - what else can you try?
[03:31] <gerro> Blindraven: because reason people dislike M$ is because it runs things without them interfacing its best to have a desktop that does nothing without the users thinking of it
[03:31] <jdong> endra: yes, you can install a "minimal" mode on all the alternate CD's -- that's equivalent
[03:31] <mneptok> endra: instead of asking, go look at your actual download options
[03:31] <endra> mneptok: I do not know. I've never used ubuntu linux, or xubuntu. This is my first time.
[03:31] <bottiger> It's really annoying to reboot because of that
[03:31] <bottiger> NB: I'm running Kubuntu
[03:31] <endra> mneptok: will you relax a bit. Stop treating me like I know all this crap
[03:31] <jdong> endra: mneptok's just saying if that you haven't downloaded anything yet, the server CD is a lot smaller.
[03:31] <gerro> Blindraven: looking at things that way every bit of wasted eye candy is adware ^^
[03:31] <bqmassey> mrj: damn. that sucks.
[03:31] <bqmassey> mrj: i've always wanted to try boxing
[03:31] <Blindraven> gerro, New users dont care to be elitest tards, they just want to get things done and "know" how to do it.
[03:31] <ramza3> should I install scsi driver to write cds.  It detected my atapi device.  I am lazy is there an easy way to detect the right driver?
[03:32] <Blindraven> gerro, then, when they actually know what they are doing - they can make that choice
[03:32] <endra> jdong: well, I asked earlier if installing the CLI is the same as installing the server version and all he said was 'go get the server version and install open box and ...'
[03:32] <Shpook> I fall into that category
[03:32] <Dialntone> is there a speaker program i can play with for my on board speaker?
[03:32] <jdong> ramza3: writing CD's should work out of the box.
[03:32] <mrj> bqmassey, I f'ing loved it, my instructor was pretty famous and a really awesome guy to train with.
[03:32] <Flannel> endra: There's a version on the alternate CD that is a command line installation only.  Theres also a GUI install.  Both of these have a textmode installer.
[03:32] <mneptok> endra: you asked "Server version of Xubuntu?" that doesn't exist. people are helping you for free. do them the courtesy of basic research.
[03:32] <gerro> Blindraven: umm guy I was talking to is an elitisttard and fixing lappy for his friend :/
[03:32] <Dialntone> i wanna create music with my speaker :)
[03:32] <bqmassey> mrj: was it expensive
[03:32] <gerro> endra: no offense
[03:32] <mrj> no, $100/mo
[03:32] <Blindraven> Shpook, heh, that sucks dude - your a perfect example :)
[03:32] <Shpook> I find gnome with just a few compiz effects and AWN to be perfect for me
[03:32] <ramza3> jdong: with xcdroast it mentions you should have a scsi driver
[03:32] <Shpook> lol thanks
[03:32] <javb> Any ideas on how to get Shockwave player working on firefox / ubuntu ?
[03:32] <Dialntone> i wanna create music with my on board speaker
[03:32] <jdong> endra: IRC lag -- he was answering a previous question... you're fine installing a minimal from the alternate
[03:32] <Blindraven> gerro, putting words in other peoples mouths is bad mmkay
[03:32] <Flannel> endra: You can simply use the CLI-only install from the Xubuntu alternate CD.  There's absolutely no reason to download the server ISO if you've already got an alternate
[03:32] <underwatercow> Pici: Aside from using firestarter, how can you disable iptables, or see that it's running?
[03:32] <mrj> bqmassey, have to buy gear and stuff, thats another $300 or so.. but that lasts you a long time
[03:32] <NemesisD> ae88925, ok i just had him grep dmesg, link is down on eth0
[03:32] <mneptok> javb: there is no Shockwave for Linux
[03:32] <ae88925> javb: Adobe has no shockwave for Linux
[03:33] <javb> mneptok, thanks.
[03:33] <jdong> ramza3: xcdroast is a really old program that may or may not have adapted to the newer 2.6.2x kernels and the updated burning infrastructure
[03:33] <javb> ae88925: Mmm, ok.
[03:33] <endra> mneptok: so why is it when I say 'I'm working on xubuntu' and you say 'download server version' then I say 'of xubuntu?' and you say 'don't use xubuntu' and I say 'server version of what then?' and you say 'download server version.'
[03:33] <endra> mneptok: either way, thanks.
[03:33] <Kudak> guys, i been doing some reading on 'vi' , it seems as an outdated wierd text editor, am i wrong ??
[03:33] <Sitherae> Im getting this error: Version 1.4.2 of the JVM is not suitable for this product. Version: 1.5 or greater is required.
[03:33] <endra> Flannel, jdong: thank you. I will do that now
[03:33] <ramza3> jdong: oh
[03:33] <gerro> Blindraven: yeah should learn that
[03:33] <Dialntone> is there a program where i can create music with my on board speaker' for linux ubuntu of course :)
[03:34] <jdong> ramza3: brasero, gnomebaker, and the thing built into Nautilus are all good GNOME options. There is also K3b , which is a favorite of GNOME and KDE users alike
[03:34] <endra> Thanks again for the help everyone, I'm already half way with installing the base system.
[03:34] <ae88925> NemesisD: Do you know what the computer is plugged into?  (switch, router, cable-modem, dsl router...)
[03:34] <Shpook> Oh yeah, I came here cause I had a problem. My kernel freezes about once every 15 minutes. Mainly when firefox is open and/or using the mouse scroll wheel. Anyone have this problem? And what logs would I check?
[03:34] <ramza3> jdong: gnome toster?
[03:34] <Kudak> guys, i been doing some reading on 'vi' , it seems as an outdated wierd text editor, am i wrong ??
[03:34] <jdong> !info gnomebaker | ramza3
[03:34] <ubotu> ramza3: gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 995 kB, installed size 2972 kB
[03:34] <Flannel> Kudak: Hardly outdated, or wierd.  but yes, its a text editor.
[03:35] <jdong> Kudak: it's a text editor, and a powerful one at that
[03:35] <underwatercow> Kudak: It's a editor which is usable without X and is installed in some form on nearly all linux distributions, and is very powerful if used correctly
[03:35] <jdong> Kudak: I use it and prefer it to every other editor out there
[03:35] <Sitherae> Im getting this error: Version 1.4.2 of the JVM is not suitable for this product. Version: 1.5 or greater is required.
[03:35] <ae88925> Kudak: vi is the best editor ever
[03:35] <Blindraven> I have an AM26000 and 4 gig of ram, the difference for me between using KDE/Gnome with Beryl and every bell+whstile you can think of and absaloutely nothing on Openbox is.. guess what? so minute the decimal difference would have to be somewhere in the .000's - why? because the memory/swap is not used up in any case
[03:35] <fevel> ill guess nothing is outdated unless it has no users
[03:35] <Blindraven> the only reason I use fluxbox/openbox is when i making my own menus and screwing around
[03:35] <Dialntone> anyone know where i can get a program for linux so i can play music beeps from the speakers :)
[03:35] <mneptok> ae88925: that's clearly subjective
[03:35] <fevel> and ill tell you...vi has a lot of users
[03:36] <ae88925> Kudak: Furthermore, it is installed and available by default on virtually all UNIX flavors.  Learn it and you become powerful.
[03:36] <mneptok> Kudak: are you trying to use vi?
[03:36] <Blindraven> oh, and "posing"
[03:36] <underwatercow> Kudak: Some like using it for everything, for others, it's only used when a person can't open a normal editor.
[03:36] <sivik> ok, i just reinstalled ubuntu on this machine and now my speaking are crackling
[03:36] <jdong> Blindraven: totally untrue; you still have to factor in CPU overhead of your desktop environment and compositing stack in comparison with Openbox
[03:36] <Blindraven> jdong, obviously
[03:36] <Flannel> underwatercow: Theres no reason to use vim as a backup.  Thats why we have nano installed by default.
[03:36] <Shpook> sudo apt-get install answer-to-question.please
[03:36] <Blindraven> jdong, but for you to say untrue you'd have to of used my system :")
[03:37] <underwatercow> Flannel: it's better to know how to use vi as it's more versatile
[03:37] <Sitherae> How do I install Eclipse?
[03:37] <fevel> Shpook, seems like a hardware problem
[03:37] <Blindraven> jdong, my cpu/swap stack remains the same - i even ran nbench on every wm - same thing
[03:37] <jdong> Blindraven: I use powerful computers too, and can still feel the difference that a lightweight set of applications use
[03:37] <underwatercow> Flannel: besides, nano isn't all that great
[03:37] <tt_> Speaking of VI, if ubuntu 7.10 comes compiled w/o one of the default build options, is the only remedy to comple myself?
[03:37] <jdong> Blindraven: CPU/Swap are meaningless numbers. How about open up 25 new Firefox windows and see which WM finishes first?
[03:37] <ae88925> Sitherae:  Go to www.eclipse.org and download the CDT version.  (hope you have a good Internet connection)
[03:37] <tt_> in VIM, that is.
[03:37] <Blindraven> jdong, thats called elite imposed placebo getting to your head
[03:37] <Blindraven> jdong, joking joking :P
[03:38] <Flannel> Sitherae: install the 'eclipse' package (its in universe)
[03:38] <underwatercow> How can I tell if iptables is filtering, and how can I turn it off? without using a GUI that is.
[03:38] <marko-ubuntu> gotama, i use rsync to take backups   rsync -avS /path_from/ /path_to/
[03:38] <fevel> underwatercow, iptables -F
[03:38] <sivik> flannel: what am i missing that is screwing up my sound, it was working before
[03:38] <NemesisD> feh he bailed
[03:38] <mneptok> marko-ubuntu: no --delete ?
[03:38] <dxdt> what is the fastest image host to sign up for if I want to post a picture of BinBon's DVD spindle cage?
[03:38] <Flannel> underwatercow: No, it's not.  But for the random time where X breaks and you need to fix it, it's good to have a basic text editor.
[03:38] <NemesisD> ae88925, we will resume this at a later date :)
[03:38] <fevel> underwatercow, as inflush the rules
[03:38] <dxdt> whoops wrong channel
[03:38] <zcat[1] > rsync -r my_files server.somewhere.else:my_backup
[03:38] <Blindraven> jdong, I'll agree with one thing - menus FLY on openbox (faster then flux) I mean they are instant no mater what i do. By application load is the same, as is memory and cpu.
[03:38] <jdong> mneptok: why use delete on your first backup run?
[03:38] <ae88925> Flannel & Sitherae:  Does the Eclipse in the repositories have support for C++?
[03:38] <Sitherae> ae88925: I have it downloaded but how do I install it?
[03:39] <Flannel> ae88925: You need to install eclipse-cdt, but yes.
[03:39] <Shpook> fevel: that's what I was thinking, but it worked fine the previous times I reformatted. Last question: are there any particular logs I could check? I checked all of the logs in /var/log/ and didn't find anything
[03:39] <underwatercow> Flannel: that's true, but it's also not installed on a lot of other distros by default
[03:39] <marko-ubuntu> mneptok: i backup my webfolder wit that.. works nice.. shoud i delete old files ?
[03:39] <mneptok> jdong: so you can reuse the command from the shell history.
[03:39] <zcat[1] > rsync is nice
[03:39] <sivik> oh wait, it wasn't the same, this is a new hd
[03:39] <jdong> Blindraven: right -- the window manager's faster at its job...
[03:39] <Flannel> Sitherae: don't.  Use the repository version.
[03:39] <sivik> i mean mobo
[03:39] <jdong> mneptok: that works too
[03:39] <underwatercow> fevel: What if I don't want to flush the rules? lol
[03:39] <mneptok> marko-ubuntu: i don't know. should you?
[03:39] <jdong> mneptok: I just can't turst myself not messing up a path in the destination and then all rmrf hell breaking loose
[03:39] <jdong> mneptok: (and that's from several first-hand experiences)
[03:39] <mneptok> marko-ubuntu: but definitely do add --progress --stats
[03:39] <fevel> Shpook, you can try the system logs on system--->administration
[03:39] <Sitherae> Flannel: I've downloaded the Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers, but I dont know how to install it
[03:39] <jdong> marko-ubuntu: add --partial too
[03:39] <zcat[1] > I'd realyl like to use cvs or svn for backups... I might set it up sometime.
[03:39] <marko-ubuntu> i dont delete anything, just backup changes mneptok
[03:39] <matt1> anyone know of a list of ubuntu packages that work on older systems?
[03:39] <ae88925> Sitherae: Just unzip it and run the binary.  You might need to edit eclipse.ini
[03:40] <mneptok> jdong: well, i'm better at rsync syntax, i guess ;)
[03:40] <marko-ubuntu> jdong: okej, thx
[03:40] <Flannel> Sitherae: Install the package from the repository.  install the 'eclipse' package and the 'eclipse-cdt' package.
[03:40] <matt1> like weechat, htop, raggle, and mutt for example
[03:40] <jdong> mneptok: good for you. have a cookie :)
[03:40] <Shpook> fevel: okay cool, thanks, it's a starting point. After that, it's back to searching bug reports and google.
[03:40] <mneptok> jdong: can't doesn't pre-exist in the source so i can't put it in the target ;)
[03:40] <jdong> matt1: well you're just looking for lightweight alternatives to heavyweight programs then, right?
[03:40] <Shpook> You know, I'll have an orgasm the day HTMLKit releases a Linux version.
[03:40] <Sitherae> ae: Works thanks
[03:41] <Flannel> ae88925: Please don't recommend people go outside of package management when a perfectly good version is available.  You're only breaking their systems.
[03:41] <AngryElf> where does ubuntu keep mdadm configuration?
[03:41] <Wisteso> HTMLKit as in java?
[03:41] <juan11> the command iwlist is working, i see my access point, how do i connect to it ??
[03:41] <mneptok> Shpook: sudo apt-get install bluefish
[03:42] <ae88925> Flannel: Eclipse is well self-contained.  There is no 'install' so it won't break other components.
[03:42] <underwatercow> Is there a way to disable iptables without flushing the rules?
[03:42] <Shpook> I use bluefish now, it's a very close second, but in my windows days I fell in love with htmlkit
[03:42] <matt1> jdong:  i guess...  I'd like to know what's the best packages for an old Pentium system running a lite ubuntu system (openbox wm)
[03:42] <persian_x> I have a very serious issue concerning Ubuntu, i had high hoped of installing it but nothing seems to be working correctly, can someone help me please?
[03:42] <jdong> matt1: how about thinking of a task, then asking for a lightweight application that performs that task?
[03:42] <Flannel> ae88925: But it also won't upgrade when he upgrades, or get security patches automatically.
[03:42] <tkooda> anyone know why I still get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" after using `apt-ftparchive` (made Packages{,.bz2,.gz} and Release{,.gpg} files; and have signing key in `apt-key list`) to make a simple apt source?  -it's like it's seeing (and fetching) my gpg, but ignoring it??
[03:43] <persian_x> I have a very serious issue concerning Ubuntu, i had high hopes of installing it but nothing seems to be working correctly, can someone help me please? PM me plz
[03:43] <Flannel> persian_x: you'll have to be more specific than "it doesn't work" for us to be able to provide any advice
[03:43] <matt1> jdong: good approach... I'm looking for a gaim replacement for gmail chat, hotmail chat etc)
[03:43] <juan11> how can i connect to an access point ???? i can see my access point already with iwlist scan , i cant connect to it,
[03:43] <Yowsers> im looking to build a vmware server with ubuntu as my host OS, if anyone can answer two quick questions for me please PM me thanks!
[03:43] <mneptok> persian_x: did you update?
[03:44] <mneptok> matt1: bitlbee
[03:44] <Dialntone> whats the command to do a test beep on the computer ?
[03:44] <jdong> matt1: search for 'naim' or another console IM client
[03:44] <jrib> !pm | Yowsers
[03:44] <Dialntone> using the internal speakers
[03:44] <ubotu> Yowsers: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[03:44] <persian_x> Flannel> I have 180gb, 120gb of which is taken by Vista and I want to shrink that size but I cant. I am on HP tx1000 notebook and I get errors everytime I try installing Ubuntu after boot, mostly it jams at 15% during setup
[03:44] <matt1> mneptok: jdong; thanks  will check them out!
[03:44] <MidnighToker> persian_x, have you checked your install media?
[03:44] <Flannel> persian_x: If it stalls midway through setup, its most likely a bad CD.  Did you check the CD for defects?
[03:44] <juan11> the command iwlist is working, i see my access point, how do i connect to it ??
[03:45] <Yowsers> can i give URLs in chat?
[03:45] <Shpook> check the md5 checksum, the ubuntu site has directions for that
[03:45] <Yowsers> i have my server build in a wishlist on newegg :)
[03:45] <matt1> so as far as anyone knows, no one has rated the ubuntu packages for system requirements?
[03:45] <persian_x> Flannel> I have burnt ubuntu on 3 dvds and 2 CD-RW , and all of them stall here and there
[03:45] <matt1> in one list
[03:45] <juan11> the command iwlist is working, i see my access point, how do i connect to it ??
[03:45] <MidnighToker> Yowsers, posting a link will be better than posting all the info and flooding the chanel
[03:45] <Shpook> lol Yowsers, I have many builds in my Newegg wishlists
[03:45] <maxd> #compiz config
[03:45] <Flannel> persian_x: The CD has a check CD for defects on it, you can verify burns with that.  Also, burn slower (4x)
[03:45] <Yowsers> shpook, haha yeah me 2
[03:46] <Shpook> persian-x, it could be a bad download also
[03:46] <Flannel> persian_x: You also might want to check the downloads (the MD5 of the iso)
[03:46] <matt1> persian_x: have you tried using the boot codes ... like noapm acpi=off and so on?
[03:46] <maxd> #compiz_fusion
[03:47] <persian_x> nope I am very new to Ubuntu i've been running on crappy windows for more than a decade and I really want to switch to Linux but I am having trouble familiarising myself with the codes and commands and the whole picture frame of GNU/Linux
[03:47] <Yowsers> i will be using VMWare Server (free version) with ubuntu as the host OS.. i plan on having 2 windows server 2003 instances and 1 windows xp instance... will this server suffice: http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=6755786
[03:47] <Yowsers> i will be running in raid 1
[03:47] <matt1> persian_x: some systems will result in a black screen when booting unless you use a boot code to improve the compatibility.. press f1 for help at the boot menu..
[03:48] <Dialntone> this is soo cool
[03:48] <Dialntone> apt-get install beep
[03:48] <Shpook> hmm...maybe my freezing issues are directly from firefox....an hour and still no freezing using swiftfox
[03:48] <Dialntone> apt-get install beep
[03:48] <Dialntone>  beep -f 1500.7 -r 10 -d 100 -l 900
[03:48] <nekcaikas> ..
[03:48] <Dialntone> its really cool :D
[03:48] <persian_x> matt1> which blackscreen are u talking about? I havent gotten any for now
[03:48] <Dialntone> im making music with my internal speakers
[03:49] <matt1> persian_x: where the live CD stalls during booting
[03:49] <Kudak> what does it mean "press a to append text" ??? --- what append means ?
[03:49] <endra> lange-pack-en depends on language-pack-en-base; however: Package language-pack-en-base is not installed. Errors were encountered while processing: language-pack-en. pkgsel failed with error code 1
[03:49] <endra> language*
[03:49] <Shpook> dialntone: on older motherboards, you used to be able to route sound through the internal speaker. sounded like crap, but it was cool. i don't think it's possible anymore though.
[03:50] <endra> This is from the installation CD (no network), how do I get language-pack-en-base to install?
[03:50] <Dialntone> Shpook,  i remember doing this with apple when i couldn't remember -- i wish there was a linux program out there that lets you make music
[03:50] <persian_x> Matt1> Live CD stalls during LOADING (mostly at: Loading hardware drivers OR Loading network interfeces) AND/OR during the actual setup (usually at 15%)
[03:50] <Kudak> VI Users: what does it mean "press a to append text" ??? --- what append means ?
[03:50] <tt_> stick on the end
[03:50] <MidnighToker> Yowsers, personally i'd want 1core per "computer" -so 3virtual+1 host. get atleast a dual core board that supports dual core processors (or wait and put 4x4core AMD64s in)
[03:51] <persian_x> Btw, I have AMD64 and I have downloaded 7.04 64-bit
[03:51] <tt_> Kudak: "a" puts you at the end of the current line and you can add on from there.
[03:51] <Kudak> tt_: oh i see, alright thx.
[03:51] <mmschnei> Hello, I am relatively new to Ubuntu (kubuntu actually). I was trying to get beryl working and I am having some issues, could some please let me know where I should be looking for support. I would great appreciate it. =)
[03:52] <persian_x> Also, I really want to take off Vista and start with a fresh HD with Ubuntu running only, but I worry that I might not be able to completly adapt myself and/or get stuck with hardware that I cannot find drivers for
[03:52] <tt_> Kudak: actually "a" adds at the current position, "A" adds to the end of the line
[03:52] <Yowsers> midnightoker: well it is a dual core amd proc, so 2 cpus... the mobo supports that proc.. and ubuntu can run on very little cpu, correct?
[03:52] <Kudak> tt_: yea figured it, thanks bro
[03:52] <eclecticus> persian_x: thats the problem I had when I tried to switch
[03:52] <Yowsers> midnightoker: the VMs will not be very cpu dependent
[03:52] <Dryft> le sigh.
[03:52] <MidnighToker> persian_x, assuming you can get a working bootCD then you know your hardware will work when you boot up. -can you try a 32bit bootcd maybe?
[03:52] <persian_x> eclecticus> tell me about it
[03:53] <matt1> persian_x: so many of us have been there.  keep trying. it's worth it =)
[03:53] <Yowsers> midnightoker: its just the quad cores are still pricey, and i was trying to do this build in budget :)
[03:53] <eclecticus> persian_x: i got everything setup, and then realized my Wireless wouldn't work correctly, or not at all
[03:53] <jstarcher> fresh install of ubuntu, I reboot from the installer and get Grub Error 2....any ideas?
[03:53] <MidnighToker> Yowsers, then it should do it, but i think its going to be slow.  -that and you'll want 4gb of ram  -if budget, then definatly up the ram  -the last thing you want is the machines swapping out
[03:53] <Downix> Yowsers:  Bah, only quads?  I'm talking the boss into an octet CPU setup
[03:54] <matt1> persian_x: I started with dual boot laptop, then eventually 2 PCs with ubuntu only.  my home is M$ free now
[03:54] <Dryft> having trouble accessing an Ubuntu share from my OS X laptop.  I noticed a couple of posts on the forums but there didn't seem to be any resolutions, it sees the shares but just keeps asking me to authorize and then saying my user/pass are wrong.  Any input?
[03:54] <Yowsers> midnightoker: yeah, it has 4 gb.. notice quantity 2 in the kingston ram :) should be 4 x 1gb sticks
[03:54] <persian_x> which option would you guys recommend: A)Multiple OS Ubuntu&Vista (60gb/120gb respectively) OR B)Fresh HD with Ubuntu (180gb)??
[03:54] <sivik> whats the command to reconfigure the xserver
[03:54] <eclecticus> persian_x: or that certain software wasn't available or compatible.. like for my computer science courses, we use Visual Studio C++.. had trouble finding something on linux that was comparable, and worked the same.. didnt have any luck
[03:54] <sherra1z> hello
[03:54] <Arc|Angel> hey eveyrone - i hope the evening is going well
[03:54] <nekcaikas> persian_x: this depends on what you actually use your machine for.
[03:54] <MidnighToker> Yowsers, missed that ;)
[03:54] <sherra1z> i have a problem with my ubuntu
[03:54] <Downix> persian_x: I do Ubuntu with QEMU to run WinXP
[03:54] <eclecticus> persian_x: I did the dual boot for a while, ubuntu/xp
[03:54] <nekcaikas> sherra1z: poor you
[03:55] <Arc|Angel> i can not recall the method to stop the ops from asking for the cd
[03:55] <sherra1z> yes X)
[03:55] <persian_x> nekcaikas> Heavy bittorrent downloads, schoolworks (word, excel, powerpoint), Surf the net & sometimes games
[03:55] <MidnighToker> persian_x, dual booting is useful; especially when you absolutely must haveto play that game that wont run in linux
[03:55] <Arc|Angel> i am trying to install some things like apache and it keeps asking me to put the cd in
[03:55] <Arc|Angel> instead of going out to the net
[03:56] <Dryft> anyone else using Ubuntu on a network with an OS X machine?
[03:56] <Arc|Angel> we have an os x at work
[03:56] <persian_x> Midnightoker>I realize but Vista wont let me shrink the space its been taking (120gb for GOD SAKE!!!) and I can only give 60 to ubuntu which isnt enough
[03:56] <eclecticus> damn, i need another HDD. so i can try the dual booting thing again
[03:56] <sherra1z> i am a new ubuntu's user
[03:56] <Arc|Angel> and ubuntu pcs
[03:56] <eclecticus> persian_x: GParted
[03:56] <MatthewPlanchard> hey, I've uninstalled evolution and yet the icon is still under my office tab in the applications menu. Is there any way to manually remove it?
[03:56] <Arc|Angel> i am trying to get my terabyte server up and running
[03:56] <eclecticus> persian_x: i had the same problem you are having
[03:56] <eclecticus> persian_x: gparted is your solution
[03:56] <sherra1z> there are some spanish
[03:57] <xIke> I am Dryft
[03:57] <Dryft> Arc|Angel: have you tried accessing an SMB/NFS share on an Ubuntu box from the Mac?
[03:57] <MidnighToker> persian_x, wow, thats nasty, wont let you shrink it at all? -you could always re-install it. -and 60BG is plenty to get Ubuntu going
[03:57] <Arc|Angel> ya
[03:57] <MidnighToker> persian_x, i'm playing with Ubuntu on a 20gb with room to spare
[03:57] <Arc|Angel> we have secure directories stored on our webserver from the mac test machine
[03:57] <Dryft> I've got a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.10 that sees my Ubuntu shares, but won't authenticate me
[03:57] <xIke> you guys doing anything to prep for gutsy?
[03:57] <persian_x> midnightoker> might be enough for Ubuntu, but not for my torrent downloads (which I will run STRICLY on ubuntu 64-bit)
[03:58] <Arc|Angel> the authenticating is done on the ubuntu side
[03:58] <persian_x> ecclecticus> THANKS A LOT!
[03:58] <bruenig> giving the computer a rest so that it will be prepared for the bloat that is the next release
[03:58] <eclecticus> persian_x: for what
[03:58] <cafuego> xIke: yes, watering the cats this afternoon.
[03:58] <endra> An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software. What is failing is the install of language-pack-en (caused by langauge-pack-en-base not being installed). How can I fix this?
[03:58] <xIke> cafuego: lol
[03:58] <Dryft> right, Im just wondering whats up, since I know my user/pass are correct, and smb is setup as share level
[03:58] <MidnighToker> Dryft, if you cant access shares on your Ubuntu SMB server try `smbpasswd -a <username>` on the ububtu box
[03:58] <Downix> How is Ubuntu's support for the 8-core SPARC T1 anyways?
[03:58] <persian_x> midnightoker> see, Im really tired of Vista so I just want to give this piece of crap maybe 15-20gb and the rest for Ubuntu, but nothing has been working as planned lol
[03:58] <Dryft> MidnighToker: will do
[03:58] <persian_x> eclecticus> GParted!!
[03:58] <xIke> wondering if I need to uninstall beryl and compiz before gutsy
[03:58] <Arc|Angel> i found my u/p was perfect and i screwed up the 0755
[03:58] <MidnighToker> persian_x, yeah, i hear that.
[03:59] <cafuego> persian_x: I wouldn't worry about it, 60Gb is huge for Linux. (unlike for Windows)
[03:59] <MidnighToker> persian_x, use the 60BG at the end of the drive for backup, wipe vista off then re-install it
[03:59] <Kudak> wow, the vimtutor is an awesome tutorial guide
[03:59] <Arc|Angel> so does anyone know how to get this server to stop pointing to the cd for installing apps
[03:59] <MidnighToker> cafuego, i think its the downloads that are the problem
[03:59] <MidnighToker> Kudak, :)
[03:59] <bruenig> !ot | Kudak
[03:59] <ubotu> Kudak: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:59] <cafuego> Pfff
[03:59] <Arc|Angel> i know we can do it - i just forgot it
[03:59] <MidnighToker> Arc|Angel, synaptic package manager
[03:59] <Kudak> bruenig: lol ?
[04:00] <Arc|Angel> from the command line?
[04:00] <Ste-Foy> OK thx MidnighToker
[04:00] <kris> Hi, I'm looking for a program for linux similar to FRAPS, www.fraps.com, to capture video from the screen.
[04:00] <Arc|Angel> i do apt-get
[04:00] <persian_x> midnightoker> If I wipe Vista off I will DEFINITELY not re-isntall it Lolll
[04:00] <MidnighToker> Arc|Angel, sorry, software sources
[04:00] <sherra1z> I have problems and i need help...
[04:00] <bruenig> Arc|Angel, delete the line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:00] <drewby> Hello
[04:00] <MidnighToker> persian_x, if you were booting nicely on a live-cd i'd tell you to go for it
[04:00] <Dialntone> that beep is driving me insane
[04:00] <Arc|Angel> ahh
[04:00] <Arc|Angel> brb
[04:00] <drewby> What is a graphics-based telnet program for Ubuntu?
[04:00] <MidnighToker> -also, how are you accessing the internet? wireless might not work without some fettling and its horrible when you cant get online to find out how to get online
[04:00] <cafuego> drewby: xterm -e telnet
[04:01] <sherra1z> if someone are able to help me, i will be pleased...
[04:01] <MidnighToker> drewby, or putty which works on linux/windows -but why telnet not ssh?
[04:01] <Dialntone> is there a command line to run over and over again  in the terminal that won't stop?
[04:01] <persian_x> Midnightoker> yes stricly wireless =S unfortunetaly
[04:01] <tt_> yah, telnet has no graphics
[04:01] <MidnighToker> sherra1z, ask the question, not to ask
[04:01] <kris> sherra1z: Go ahead and ask your question.
[04:01] <cafuego> Dialntone: `watch'
[04:01] <drewby> I need a graphics based telnet of ssh
[04:01] <sherra1z> ok, many thanks
[04:01] <tim167> about VLC: how can i change the order of the songs in my playlist ?
[04:01] <MidnighToker> persian_x, i'd recommend cashing out on an ethernet cable
[04:01] <drewby> to do remote matlab plotting
[04:01] <CaneToad> Does anyone know if the new ubuntu 7.10 release is supposed to well support ATI video?  The ubuntu 7 installer won't work on my machine (ATI mobility radeon 9700) although Fedora 7 works fine.
[04:01] <MidnighToker> persian_x, just incase ;)
[04:02] <kris> Hi, I'm looking for a program for linux similar to FRAPS, www.fraps.com, to capture video from the screen. Anyone familiar with such a program and could provide me with the name so I can look into it? Thanks.
[04:02] <cafuego> drewby: write a 2-line bash script that asks for a hostname via a dialog, then runs telnet.
[04:02] <bruenig> CaneToad, it's the same x, the same drivers that exist now, this is not microsoft, everything that is going into it already exists
[04:02] <persian_x> Midnightoker> What if Ubuntu doesnt even recognise my network card? lol which is most likely
[04:02] <Dialntone> cool i made my own alarm :D
[04:02] <mmschnei_> Hello, I am new to the whole composite desktop thing, I have been trying to get beryl working, can someone please help me troubleshoot my issue?
[04:02] <kitche> CaneToad: ubuntu 7.04 supports ATI also just that the ATI driver is horrible if you use the fglrx which most likely you don't with a mobility
[04:02] <drewby> cafeugo: that'll work?
[04:02] <MidnighToker> persian_x, thats most unlikely. the network card, i would think will be fine
[04:02] <cafuego> drewby: of course
[04:03] <tim167> kris: i think you  'd want to  google xvidcapt, not 100% sure...
[04:03] <cafuego> drewby: After you input the address, run 'xterm -e telnet ${HOST}' from the bash script, and voila.
[04:03] <persian_x> MidnighToker> if thats the case then I dont see why it wouldnt connect wireless (im on HP notebook)
[04:03] <sherra1z> tonight I installed ubuntu for first time, I tried to install opera like web browser, then Firefox dont work
[04:03] <xIke> krisL gtk-record desktop
[04:03] <MidnighToker> mmschnei_, i know nothing about it, but it would help if you told us what graphics card, and what you've tried to do to make it work
[04:03] <kris> tim167: Ok I'll look into that.
[04:03] <kris> xlke: Ok. I'll look into that too.
[04:03] <fastfinger> I am having hard time installign skype :<
[04:03] <MidnighToker> persian_x, the wireless support is far more complicated than a generic network controller on a PCI bus
[04:03] <Dialntone> cafuego,  do you know how to make flashing colors in the terminal?
[04:04] <Dialntone> make it repeat over ang over agian
[04:04] <bruenig> fastfinger, maybe you are leaving too much time between the first and second click
[04:04] <CaneToad> kitche/bruenig, booting from the ubuntu 7 dvd to install doesn't work on my machine, X server starts and then can't progress, wonder if 7.10 will be any different
[04:04] <bruenig> CaneToad, it's all the same thing, releases are illusions
[04:04] <tim167> kris: http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/ :)
[04:04] <cafuego> Dialntone: take an acid tab
[04:04] <MidnighToker> bruenig, it cant be the same thing; he's got two CDs ;)
[04:04] <fastfinger> bulmer: ? said libasound2 is unacceptable or something
[04:04] <mmschnei_> I have a nVidia 8600 GT, using the latest drivers from nVidia. I had it working earlier and now its broken from some reason, I start up beryl-manager, and then beryl crashes "twice in less than a minute" and I get dumped back to kwin. I have tried doing a complete removal of all packages and reinstalling but that doesn't seem to have changed anything.
[04:04] <cafuego> drewby: telnet $(zenity --entry --text "Enter hostname")
[04:04] <Dialntone> acid tab?
[04:05] <Dialntone> hehe
[04:05] <fastfinger> and the libasound2 i have is that latest
[04:05] <drewby> cafuego: why not just xterm -e ssh username@blah.com
[04:05] <Dialntone> no
[04:05] <sherra1z> someone know how can I restore ubuntu at before date?
[04:05] <kris> tim167: Gracias!
[04:05] <MasterShrek> argh, compiled a new kernel and my sound driver isnt there :(
[04:05] <Arc|Angel> worked perfect thanks - drew a blank on that for some reason
[04:05] <cafuego> drewby: Run whatever, my point is zenity.
[04:05] <sherra1z> kris, hablas espaol....
[04:05] <drewby> zenity
[04:05] <drewby> okay
[04:05] <mmschnei_> if I run beryl --replace then I get windows w/o boarders and no alt-tab
[04:05] <sherra1z> te necesitoooo
[04:05] <Arc|Angel> anyone have a good source list
[04:05] <bruenig> drewby, or xdialog
[04:05] <mmschnei_> kicker seems to die to then.
[04:05] <MidnighToker> mmschnei_, i'd posibly say use compiz not Beryl. they are joining again, and my friend seemed to get compiz working with ATI as a first time linux user (so it cant be that bad)
[04:05] <Dialntone> blag
[04:06] <mmschnei_> MidnighToker, I can get compiz working.
[04:06] <persian_x> Midnightoker> Do you suggest me to just wait for the new release and retry everything?
[04:06] <mmschnei_> MidnighToker, I want to use some emerald themes, with compiz I dont' even know where to set the themes at
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> whats this mean
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> Setting up apache (1.3.34-4.1) ...
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> dpkg: error processing apache (--configure):
[04:06] <Arc|Angel>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:06] <Arc|Angel>  apache
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:06] <kris> sherra1z: Si necesitas ayuda con Linux en Espanol, yo te recomiendo que buscas en #ubuntu-es. No puedo hablarlo muy bien. Lo siento.
[04:06] <phix> hey
[04:06] <MidnighToker> persian_x, i'd suggest trying a 32bit boot CD, or try the new beta -its virtually released and its stable
[04:06] <bruenig> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> and that means?
[04:06] <mmschnei_> and I noticed the merging of beryl & compiz is going to be called compiz-fusion, but I didn't see anything along those lines in the application database
[04:06] <MidnighToker> Arc|Angel, sounds like your system is foobared
[04:07] <bruenig> the script that runs after the installation failed
[04:07] <Arc|Angel> foorbarded it is a fresh install
[04:07] <MidnighToker> mmschnei_, its not in the default repository, do some googling there are guides out there
[04:07] <bruenig> it isn't foobared, that person doesn't know anything
[04:07] <phix> mozilla-thunderbird likes to crash (segfault) on me for no reason.  I am using amd64bit vers of ubuntu (on a intel core 2 duo, installed from alternative install cd)
[04:07] <kitche> mmschnei_: it's part of gutsy since compiz-fusion is done but it's not a merger really between compiz and beryl it's a merger between compiz-extra and beryl
[04:07] <mmschnei_> MidnighToker, ok, thanks, I'll give that a shot, you have any idea about compiz theme management?
[04:07] <Arc|Angel> i thought errors like this are done when it failed to install
[04:07] <sherra1z> mi problema es que a partir de intentar instalar opera, no puedo salir a internet con ningun web browser
[04:07] <persian_x> MidnighToker> Is something wrong with 64-bit?
[04:07] <gerro> endra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125084 might want to skip the part about conky though
[04:07] <phix> It only started doing that today, if I remove .mozilla-thunderbird it works up until I add in my IMAP account, then it crashses
[04:07] <MidnighToker> persian_x, no, but i've had older versions not booting on 64bit hardware and working fine with a 32bit release
[04:08] <mmschnei_> kitche, ok, good to know its in gutsy... thanks =)
[04:08] <kris> sherra1z: Esta channel esta reservado para ayuda solo en ingles. Si estas buscando para ayuda en espanol, vaya a #ubuntu-es.
[04:08] <MidnighToker> mmschnei_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[04:08] <bruenig> Arc|Angel, the postinst script failed, you can open the deb up and edit it or perhaps there is a dpkg flag that will allow you to skip that script
[04:08] <phix> Any ideas?
[04:08] <MidnighToker> or mmschnei_ http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+compiz+fusion
[04:08] <sherra1z> kris: gracias, disculpa la molestia
[04:08] <persian_x> MidnighToker> Thanks so much, youve been great help!!
[04:08] <MidnighToker> persian_x, i have my moments :)
[04:09] <kris> sherra1z: No problemo. One moment, maybe I can help you.
[04:09] <Arc|Angel> did it complete the install?  -  An error is still not a good thing so I would like to find out what the error is
[04:09] <MidnighToker> persian_x, good luck getting off vista
[04:09] <kris> sherra1z: So you want to install opera, but can't? What's the problem?
[04:09] <phix> :/
[04:09] <persian_x> MidnighToker> Once I'll know enough about Setting everything correctly on Ubuntu, Vista is going bye-bye forever
[04:10] <phix> persian_x: you use Vista?
[04:10] <bruenig> Arc|Angel, seriously try to read the errors, they are written in understandable english if you don't just recoil immediately from them and go "I don't know this bah, what is this." It says that the post-installation script (the script that runs post(after) installation) failed. That means that the files were installed.
[04:10] <sivik> has anyone have any luck with nvidia drivers with a 8600GT video card
[04:10] <mmschnei_> sivik, yep
[04:10] <mmschnei_> Im running it now
[04:10] <phix> sivik: yes
[04:10] <persian_x> phix> Yes, unfortunetaly
[04:10] <phix> persian_x: why?
[04:10] <phix> persian_x: install XP at least
[04:11] <persian_x> phix> Came with tx1000 notebook
[04:11] <mmschnei_> MidnighToker, thanks. I am not used to ubuntu yet. I don't get why compiz-fusion cannot be installed now on 7.04
[04:11] <sivik> i'm apparently doing somethig wrong because its not working for me
[04:11] <phix> persian_x: :S I wouldn't of bought it
[04:11] <phix> unless they loaded it with XP
[04:11] <phix> or no os and gave me monies
[04:11] <mmschnei_> sivik, I grabbed them from nvidia's website and installed them that way.
[04:11] <Arc|Angel> i also have an issue where I tried to upgrade to 7.10 on my laptop and now that is foobarded it wont reconize any of my usb drives so i can save my email nor will it connect to the network - any suggestions on how to get my email saved
[04:11] <MidnighToker> mmschnei_, its not something i've played with, and i've only been using ubuntu for about 24hours, so...  google is your firend ;)
[04:11] <sivik> mmschnei_, apparently i'm doing something wrong cause its not working for me, i'm running vesa right now
[04:11] <persian_x> phix> I love the touchscreen Tablet look and the fingerprint scanner, 200gb & AMD64
[04:12] <Clinton__> !flash
[04:12] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:12] <sivik> mmschnei_, didn't know it would work that way, i will try that one
[04:12] <persian_x> phix> They loaded it up with Vista Home Premium
[04:12] <mmschnei_> sivik, I couldn't get it working within ubuntu's package management
[04:12] <jarrod_> i just hooked up 7.10 to a monitor and had to reset the resolution to get it to work. had to take it down all the way to 640x480. this has caused some problems. the preference > resolution only shows this res. suggestions?
[04:12] <fevel> cafuego, LOL
[04:12] <phix> fingerprint scanner :/ you do relise everytime you touch something you are giving after your authentication key
[04:12] <eclecticus> i have a question - why did all of you switch to Linux
[04:12] <mudoch> Hello, I have a question regarding auto starting xxamp under 7.04
[04:12] <sivik> mmschnei_, thats what i'm trying to do it with, i will try the driver from the nvidia website
[04:12] <MasterShrek> jarrod_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <eclecticus> I want to switch to Linux but I don't know why, and it scares me that i might not find software that I need to work correctly... like what happend last time
[04:13] <mmschnei_> MidnighToker, thanks, I've been googling for hours, I've read both of the links you gave me already w/o much of a soln. found. I think at this point I'll just wait for 7.10 to come out and see how that handles it before I put more time into this.
[04:13] <adante> hi, where should i go to install irssi 0.8.12?
[04:13] <c_plus_plus> hello, my nvidia restricted driver gives me a blank screen if i enable it and reboot, changing back to the nv driver fixes the problem
[04:13] <persian_x> phix> worst comes to worst I'll get FBI knocking on my door, BAH!
[04:13] <sivik> eclecticus, what do you need?
[04:13] <phix> persian_x: authentication via something you are is not a good idea, there is no way to change who you are if you get comprimised ;)
[04:13] <adante> or even 0.8.11.. what is the deal with 'unstable' packages in ubuntu?
[04:13] <MidnighToker> eclecticus, i was sick of windows and couldnt afford new mac hardware... saying that, linux is far nicer than OSX, far mre open
[04:13] <drewby> xterm is not graphics based
[04:13] <drewby> I need to do plotting with matlab
[04:13] <mudoch> how do I get the xxamp install to autostartup
[04:13] <eclecticus> sivik: Visual Studio C++, uTorrent, Miranda-IM
[04:13] <phix> mudoch: point and click
[04:13] <Flannel> mudoch: don't use xammp, get a real LAMP stack
[04:14] <MidnighToker> persian_x, there was also the worrying case of mercedes drivers having hands stolen in carjacking incidents when they starting using fingerprints instead of ignitian keys
[04:14] <mudoch> Yeah I thought about that but xxamp has many module installed....
[04:15] <Arc|Angel> any way to recover that laptop after a failed upgrade to 7.10 beta
[04:15] <Berzerker> failed to initialize nvidia kernel module
[04:15] <Berzerker> any help?
[04:15] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, still?
[04:15] <Clinton__> !upgrade
[04:15] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:15] <Berzerker> indeed
[04:15] <Flannel> Arc|Angel: Finish the upgrade
[04:16] <drewby> Should I use vnc?
[04:16] <mudoch> arcangel did you get that beat from Linux format?
[04:16] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, have you been upgrading or anything? you should only have to install it once
[04:16] <bruenig> Arc|Angel, wrong channel, it is a good idea to at least understand like the bare basics of linux before doing something like that, I mean knowledge of front ends tends to be very unhelpful
[04:16] <Arc|Angel> i can not get it to connect to the network now, neither ethernet or wireless
[04:16] <bruenig> knowing how to click through the python scripts is not enough to justify a jump to beta
[04:17] <Berzerker> no..
[04:17] <Arc|Angel> i am no guru i know this but i have done upgrades before
[04:17] <Berzerker> I havn'
[04:17] <Berzerker> t
[04:17] <Arc|Angel> never had this before
[04:17] <Flannel> Arc|Angel: Sneakernet to the rescue then.  Suggest you download an alternate CD for gutsy and use that as a repo.  But, you really ought to be asking in #ubuntu+1, they might have a solution for you
[04:17] <Arc|Angel> i wanted to test it on an extra laptop i have
[04:17] <MasterShrek> Arc|Angel, well, u do realize that gutsy is still beta, but i would say you need to load modules for your nic cards
[04:18] <bruenig> yeah it could be your network interface card card
[04:18] <Berzerker> MasterShrek, I haven't been upgrading.
[04:18] <Arc|Angel> i was thinking the modules got screwed when it rebooted - my son pulled the ethernet cord out by mistake
[04:18] <bruenig> that had nothing to do with it
[04:18] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, if i remember right you were using the nvidia driver from their website, have you ever got it to work?
[04:19] <Berzerker> no
[04:19] <Berzerker> I also tried the nvidia-glx
[04:19] <kitche> Berzerker: if you installed nvidia from their website you might nee dot reinstall it if you upgraded your kernel lately
[04:19] <Arc|Angel> well it was taking down the network manager and then the cord was pulled
[04:19] <Berzerker> I haven't.
[04:19] <Flannel> Arc|Angel: Try the alternate CD to do the local package thing to finish the upgrade.
[04:19] <EADG_> What program can I use undelete a folder & its files on a fat32 external usb HDD?
[04:19] <Berzerker> I haven't done any upgrading of any kind
[04:19] <Berzerker> all I did was install madwifi, and the error was happening before I installed it
[04:19] <mudoch> question regarding the auto starting the  XXAMP stack.... read something about the rc.local.... am i on the right track?  seems I can not find much on rc.local
[04:19] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, when you install the driver, do it give you errors?
[04:19] <Berzerker> no
[04:20] <MasterShrek> mudoch, if you want something to start on boot, put the command in rc.local
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> mudoch rc.local is /etc/rc.local - its just a script file that gets ran at boot up.
[04:20] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, what graphics card is it?
[04:20] <mariooliveira> hello
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> mudoch i think rc.local is the Last thing that gets ran at boot up. ;)
[04:21] <MasterShrek> Dr_Willis, i think u are correct
[04:21] <Berzerker> 8600M GT
[04:21] <Flannel> mudoch: XAMPP isn't in ubuntu, its not really supported by us (because we don't usually deal with it).  You might ask the XAMPP people.  Or, as some have suggested, just use a real LAMP stack.  Its easy to install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:21] <sivik> installing with the nvidia drivers still did not work with my 8600GT
[04:21] <Berzerker> I'm doing this on a macbook pro
[04:21] <mudoch> mastershrek/dr_willis  the default script says I have to mod the permissions first... is that correct?
[04:21] <sivik> i installed the drivers from the nvidia website
[04:21] <MasterShrek> mudoch, to run a program it has to be executable, so probably
[04:21] <sivik> is there something else i need to do to test with it
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> mudoch rc.local should have the proper permissions allready. (it might need a chmod +x) to it..
[04:22] <MasterShrek> sivik and Berzerker, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:22] <Flannel> mudoch: make sure you install it to /opt
[04:22] <Heygabe> What is the application that puts system status on the desktop in fluxbox?
[04:22] <shanti>  hi there .. i always get nasty hangs when i try lvcreate ( it somehow trys to access my cdrom-device ) .. after some kind of timeout the command finishs .. how can i stop this lockups ?
[04:22] <mudoch> ok thanks all.... just wanted to get my head around the rc.local... thought that might be the way...
[04:22] <Berzerker> with the drive loaded in xorg, or vesa loaded in xorg?
[04:22] <bruenig> Heygabe, conky will do it on any desktop
[04:22] <Berzerker> driver*
[04:22] <Flannel> Heygabe: Does conky wor with fluxbox?
[04:22] <andy__> can someone help me with my c compiler
[04:22] <shanti> i am on the install-cd
[04:23] <bruenig> andy__, you writing a c compiler?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> mudoch not a lot to rc.local :) its just a simple script. By default it just does an 'exit 0' i belive.
[04:23] <Heygabe> is that the one that comes with puppy?  I love theone that comes with puppy
[04:23] <sivik> MasterShrek, already did that, coming up and telling me the failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[04:23] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, u should have nvidia in the xorg.conf
[04:23] <andy__> no lmao. the one I have on my ubuntu is being weird
[04:23] <Berzerker> I can't start the X Server if I have it in there
[04:23] <Berzerker> gives me the same error as sivik
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> Conky works fine with fluxbox :)  Flannel
[04:23] <MasterShrek> sivik, and Berzerker you both have 8600's do you know for sure if that card is supported?
[04:23] <mariooliveira> i need help.  firefox  sometimes tries to open php file and sometimes  types starts opening  new pages to infinity
[04:23] <Berzerker> According to different tutorials on installing Ubuntu on Macbook Pros, it should be.
[04:23] <mudoch> flannel.... yep got the xxamp running, but have to start every time..... just doing a test box here for it..... I did install a LAMP on another box.
[04:23] <sivik> MasterShrek: yes, because i downloaded the drivers from the nvidia website
[04:24] <andy__> checking for sed... /bin/sed
[04:24] <andy__> checking for gcc... gcc
[04:24] <andy__> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[04:24] <andy__> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:24] <sivik> andy__, use pastebin.com
[04:24] <Berzerker> sivik, just because you downloaded it from their site doesn't mean it's compatable
[04:24] <CITguy> sivik: what is the error you are getting?
[04:24] <MasterShrek> andy__, sudo apt-get install build-essential     then try again
[04:24] <eclecticus> how do i find out what kind of HDD my laptop requires ? ATA-6, SATA 3.0 Gb/s , or Serial ATA150 ?
[04:24] <sivik> CITguy, "failed to load the NVIDIA kernel modules"
[04:24] <andy__> ty
[04:24] <Berzerker> I'm having the same problem as sivik
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus open it up and look.
[04:24] <mariooliveira> any one knows how to disable firefox from trying to open php files?
[04:24] <sivik> eclecticus, what willis said
[04:24] <pavs> ok time for a silly question. is it possible to make linux box report a customized uptime report ie, instead of the actual 20 days make it say 20,000 days ;)
[04:24] <eclecticus> sivik: will it say ?
[04:25] <Flannel> mariooliveira: youre viewing them through a webserver?
[04:25] <CITguy> how'd you install the NVIDIA driver?
[04:25] <mariooliveira> or opening  pages to infinite
[04:25] <mariooliveira> yes
[04:25] <Berzerker> run package from nvidia
[04:25] <MasterShrek> pavs, no, that would kinda defeat the purpose wouldnt it?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus  look at the conectors on the drive.  it may be ide. or sata.
[04:25] <sivik> CITguy, i did it with the apt-get first and then install via the ./NVIDIA*.run
[04:25] <eclecticus> ok
[04:25] <Flannel> mariooliveira: Thats a misconfiguration on the server (its not executing the PHP script), not the browser
[04:25] <Dr_Willis>  eclecticus as to the speeds - that normally dosent matter.
[04:25] <adante> hi, whenever i install a package now i get about a million errors pertaining to failing to write font cache and openoffice not being configured, how cna i fix these? i tried touchging the directories but this does not seem to have helped
[04:25] <MasterShrek> sivik and Berzerker uninstall nvidia-glx first maybe
[04:25] <CITguy> try executing the *.run file with the --add-this-kernel option
[04:25] <pavs> that sucks
[04:26] <sivik> CITguy, ?
[04:26] <Berzerker> --add-this-kernal?
[04:26] <andy__> what was the package name again?
[04:26] <mariooliveira> Flannel:  How do i solve that?
[04:26] <CITguy> execute ./NVIDIA*.run --add-this-kernel
[04:26] <MasterShrek> andy__, build-essential
[04:26] <eclecticus> Dr_Willis: I want to upgrade my laptops HDD so i can dual boot Vista and Ubuntu, right now it has a 60GB HDD
[04:26] <eclecticus> what should I upgrade my laptops HDD to
[04:26] <Berzerker> MasterShrek, I installed the glx after I found the run package gave me the error,
[04:26] <arooni> how do i create a .vmdk file to use with virtualbox?  are vmdk files smart enough to be growing in size like .vdi files?  can .vmdk files be expanded in the future?
[04:26] <Flannel> mariooliveira: Make sure you've got mod-php enabled, and um, I don't really remember.  You might ask in #apache
[04:26] <CITguy> it will proceed to compile a kernel interface for your machine and add a *custom.run file in the directory
[04:26] <sivik> now its actually doing something now
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus 60gb is plenty huge for that job. :) upgrade to whatever your budget can afford i guess.
[04:27] <Berzerker> Doesn't it automatically do that?
[04:27] <CITguy> not automatically
[04:27] <sivik> same error CITguy
[04:27] <eclecticus> Dr_Willis: But I torrent alot :(, 60Gb didnt work in the past
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus higher rpm would be nicer/quicker.. but more $$ - and will suck down battery life.
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus easy fix would be to get a external usb hd for your torrents.
[04:28] <andy__> eclecticus, buy a slave hd?
[04:28] <Berzerker> external drive.
[04:28] <Berzerker> 160GB My Book
[04:28] <eclecticus> hmm
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> Like you really NEED 60gb of torrents on the laptop all the time. :)
[04:28] <eclecticus> are those reliable ?
[04:28] <sivik> CITguy, same error
[04:28] <Berzerker> I have one.
[04:28] <Berzerker> Works great.
[04:28] <eclecticus> i heard they die on you
[04:28] <MasterShrek> eclecticus, dont drop it =P
[04:28] <Berzerker> Set it up through my router
[04:28] <Berzerker> wirelessly to all computers
[04:28] <Berzerker> works fine.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus they use the same hd's as in the laptop.. ... so..
[04:28] <eclecticus> cool
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> The external hds are about the same $$ as internal hds when ya find them on sale. :)
[04:29] <eclecticus> does my laptop have to be connected to it in order for it to be downloading the torrents or. .. how does that work
[04:29] <Berzerker> side question: how would I make something (like yakuake) run at startup?
[04:29] <Berzerker> or...login
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus.. well to ACCESS the drive.. it has to be connected.. of course..
[04:29] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, are you on kde or gnome?
[04:29] <sivik> Berzerker, make it run at run level 2
[04:29] <Berzerker> gnome
[04:29] <cafuego> external HDDs cost the same as internal HDDs plus $20 for an enclosure <heh>
[04:29] <jeffreyf> hello.  What file controls what release/OS is selected for automatic boot?
[04:29] <MasterShrek> u can put it in system > preferences > sessions
[04:29] <sivik> jeffreyf, grub
[04:29] <CITguy> ok, have you installed the following prior to executing the *.run file :: "libc6 libc6-dev xorg-dev make linux-headers-`uname -r`"?
[04:29] <Flannel> jeffreyf: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> cafuego ive been finding the externals cheaper at times. :) gotta love sales.
[04:29] <jeffreyf> Where?
[04:30] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, yakuake is awesome =)
[04:30] <sivik> CITguy, their should be
[04:30] <Berzerker> yeah
[04:30] <Berzerker> how would I make it run at level 2
[04:30] <eclecticus> $89.99 for a 160 GB laptop HDD..  how much do external HDDs cost ?
[04:30] <MasterShrek> i dont think u would want yakuake to be at runlevel 2
[04:30] <Berzerker> well then how would I make it run at login
[04:30] <Dan_L> Ok.  So I'm taking the plunge here.  Would somebody verify this instruction as accurate and functional:    http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[04:30] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, u can put it in system > preferences > sessions
[04:30] <sivik> why would you want vista
[04:30] <sivik> vista is worse than ME
[04:30] <TIMUR> I have a Question
[04:30] <sivik> TIMUR, just ask
[04:30] <cdm10> We may have an Answer
[04:30] <TIMUR> How do u set ONE inch MARGins in Open office ??
[04:31] <EADG_> eclecticus: $129 for 500Gb external.
[04:31] <jeffreyf> sivik:  where is that on the drive?.....
[04:31] <cdm10> TIMUR: it should be in Format>Paragraph
[04:31] <Berzerker> a ha
[04:31] <MasterShrek> format > paragraph or something i spose
[04:31] <mariooliveira> Flannel: Tanks for the tips i thought it was something of virus or something like that
[04:31] <sivik> jeffreyf, /boot/grub/grub.list
[04:31] <Berzerker> ok
[04:31] <Berzerker> now
[04:31] <CITguy> TIMUR: Format > Page
[04:31] <Berzerker> that's done
[04:31] <Berzerker> back to the graphics problems
[04:31] <bruenig> TIMUR, your hand accidentally slipped onto the shift button a couple of times
[04:31] <sivik> Berzerker, lol
[04:31] <Berzerker> :P
[04:31] <jeffreyf> sivik:  Thanks!
[04:31] <TIMUR> and then?? format paragraph ,,, i can't chagne in values
[04:32] <cdm10> yeah, who the hell capitalizes stuff on teh interweb?
[04:32] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, im confused as to why its not working, are u running 32 or 64 bit? and did you download the proper file?
[04:32] <Berzerker> 32
[04:32] <Berzerker> yes, I'm almost positive I did
[04:32] <Berzerker> lol
[04:32] <cdm10> TIMUR: Well, a bug in OpenOffice is preventing me from accessing that dialog at all, so I can't walk you through it... sorry.
[04:32] <sivik> jeffreyf, yw
[04:32] <griberal> Other than package management, are there any major differences between CentOS and Ubuntu Server?
[04:32] <Berzerker> one second MAster,
[04:32] <Berzerker> I'll brb
[04:32] <sivik> griberal, i would run debian over ubuntu server, i hate centos, too many files to change a config file
[04:32] <MasterShrek> bow to your master =P
[04:33] <cdm10> griberal: package management and available packages make a BIG difference.
[04:33] <CITguy> TIMUR: Format > Page, Page Tab, Margins Group
[04:33] <TIMUR> Who else can Help me To set 1 INCH margins in OPEn offcie PLease
[04:33] <jeffreyf> sivik:  /boot/grub/menu.lst.........got it!
[04:33] <MasterShrek> i would run slackware over debian over ubuntu server
[04:33] <sivik> TIMUR, you should be able to move the tabs at the top and left to make it an ince
[04:33] <sivik> MasterShrek, i have never used slackware, why do you like it better
[04:33] <sivik> you still around CITguy?
[04:33] <drewby> I tried making a bash script
[04:33] <cdm10> TIMUR: what's with your funky capitalization?
[04:33] <CITguy> yes
[04:33] <MasterShrek> its beautiful, thats about all i can say lol
[04:33] <TIMUR> I can't tell how to make it an Inch
[04:34] <sivik> CITguy, what were those things i needed to install
[04:34] <RB2> I just had the strangest experience... I rebooted my machine (running 7.10) after some updates and my Compiz theme changed.
[04:34] <sivik> TIMUR, ten little marks is an inch
[04:34] <bbardlbradd> Hey, there's a lady crying behind my house... Can someone help me get a dock for Ubuntu (gnome)
[04:34] <peacepipejv> Help, i nstalled a program via synaptic. Its nowhere to be found.
[04:34] <Flannel> RB2: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support, thanks.
[04:34] <mehevi_> I'm having trouble installing murrina engine for gtk+2.0.  I installed the deb but in my window decoration options it does not show up, I'm using xfce
[04:34] <CITguy> libc6 libc6-dev xorg-dev linux-headers-`uname -r` make
[04:34] <griberal> sivik, why do you prefer Debian over Ubuntu Server?
[04:34] <drewby> basically ssh user@place.com; tap matlab; matlab
[04:34] <MasterShrek> peacepipejv, what program?
[04:34] <drewby> but it didn't work
[04:34] <sivik> griberal, i think it runs better
[04:34] <matt1> what package will let me log into gmail chat using the curses command line interface?  is there any?
[04:34] <peacepipejv> junior-programming
[04:34] <CITguy> sivik: then run ./NVIDIA*.run --add-this-kernel
[04:34] <SiCoTRoNiC> most installed programs are in /bin
[04:34] <drewby> I need a graphical ssh client.
[04:34] <Flannel> matt1: any curses jabber client.  centericq is one
[04:35] <novato_br> how can I listen this http://85.14.85.17:8002 ?
[04:35] <cdm10> matt1: gaim-text (finch on Gutsy)
[04:35] <griberal> sivik, in what way? less crashes? faster?
[04:35] <MasterShrek> drewby, vnc, but its not really ssh
[04:35] <matt1> Flannel:  dm10 : thx
[04:35] <bbardlbradd> I have the avant window manger, and I've heard that they make a dock, but where do I get it? It's like Abides or something?
[04:35] <drewby> MasterShrek: anything other than vnc?
[04:35] <SiCoTRoNiC> look for it again on Synaptic and check the properties and it will say where is insatlled
[04:35] <MasterShrek> why would you want anything else drewby?
[04:35] <vvd> SiCoTRoNiC: /usr/bin :)
[04:35] <drewby> The directions on my school website said x-win
[04:35] <SiCoTRoNiC> yeah, sory
[04:35] <drewby> MasterShrek: because my school doesn't have a vnc server running
[04:36] <Berzerker> I actually get an error under it
[04:36] <Berzerker> "No screens found"
[04:36] <MasterShrek> drewby, i think u want rdesktop
[04:36] <drewby> rdesktop?
[04:36] <drewby> okay
[04:36] <drewby> I'll be back
[04:36] <sivik> rdesktop for rdp in linux, its nice
[04:36] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:36] <johnadsfsdfdf> how can i find out which version of ubuntu im running?
 <tab> in a terminal gives 3065 here
[04:36] <sivik> CITguy, same error
[04:36] <Dan_L> can anybody help with some partitioning questions?
[04:36] <Berzerker> select nvidia, right?
[04:37] <Berzerker> or nv
[04:37] <sivik> johnadsfsdfdf, cat /proc/version
[04:37] <CITguy> johnadsfsdfdf: uname -a
[04:37] <MasterShrek> Dan_L, fire away
[04:37] <johnadsfsdfdf> Dan_L, i can try
[04:37] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, id try nvidia, if it doesnt work go back and pick something else
[04:37] <griberal> sivik, aren't Debian and Ubuntu Server basically the same thing?
[04:37] <johnadsfsdfdf> Linux mythbuntu 2.6.15-29-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Aug 29 13:20:33 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux ... which codename would that be
[04:37] <bbardlbradd> Oh, no... it's called AWN (Dock for Ubuntu)... can someone help me understand how to get this app?
[04:37] <BUDD}{A> i have a old backup i backed up with sbackup how do i del it ?
[04:37] <Berzerker> how do I know the bus identifier?
[04:37] <MasterShrek> griberal, ubuntu is based of debian
[04:37] <Dan_L> Generally speaking, when doing a dual boot vista/linux, I should be shrinking the vista volume and running the live CD over it, true?
[04:37] <Dan_L> Wait.
[04:37] <Berzerker> do I just leave it?
[04:37] <CITguy> sivik: run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common"
[04:38] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, probably
[04:38] <Dan_L> I guess this isn't really a Linux question, so much as "I'm a stupid idiot and don't know crap about vista question".  Never mind.
[04:38] <CITguy> Berzerker: leave it
[04:38] <EADG_> Anybody know of a program that will undelete files/folders on a fat32 hard drive?
[04:38] <johnadsfsdfdf> Dan_L, dont know anything about vista
[04:38] <MasterShrek> Dan_L, nobody knows anything about vista, the people that wrote it probably dont, its a crappy os alltogether
[04:38] <johnadsfsdfdf> Dan_L: but id say that if you have 1 HD you should shrink the vista part, after its been installed
[04:38] <sivik> CITguy, same error "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module"
[04:38] <griberal> MasterShrek, do you prefer Debian over Ubuntu Server too?
[04:38] <sivik> Vista is almost as bad as ME
[04:39] <MasterShrek> and your hard drive sheds a tear every time it spins because it has it on it =P
[04:39] <Dan_L> Yeah.  I suppose I'm just nervous about running this live disk.
[04:39] <johnadsfsdfdf> Dan_L: and then let the ubuntu install setup a bootloader for you
[04:39] <CITguy> sivik: have you ever had the NVIDIA driver working?
[04:39] <Berzerker> amount of memory to be used?
[04:39] <MasterShrek> griberal, neiter
[04:39] <MasterShrek> neither*
[04:39] <sivik> CITguy, i have no clue, how do i determine this
[04:39] <johnadsfsdfdf> Dan_L: burn your important files to disc
[04:39] <griberal> MasterShrek, were you the one that said Slackware?
[04:39] <bbardlbradd> Oh, AWN means Avant Window Manager... Well, I already have that window manager... but it doesn't have the dock, what ever shall I do? Someone... please
[04:39] <CITguy> Berzerker: use the amount of memory that is on board your graphics card
[04:39] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, if you know how much mem your vid card has put it there, but u can probably leave it blank
[04:39] <sivik> griberal, yes he was
[04:39] <MasterShrek> griberal, yes
[04:39] <Berzerker> it's a 128mb
[04:40] <Berzerker> so 128000
[04:40] <Berzerker> I put?
[04:40] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, i think u need to put 128000
[04:40] <MasterShrek> yes
[04:40] <Berzerker> or should I just leave it blank
[04:40] <JEFFmasterFLEX> AWN is the Avant Window Navigator, it IS a dock
[04:40] <CITguy> sivik: a better question would be "Are you installing the NVIDIA driver from a clean install?"
[04:40] <JEFFmasterFLEX> you must have beryl or compiz-fusion enabled to use it
[04:40] <MasterShrek> CITguy, that shouldnt matter
[04:40] <sivik> CITguy, not anymore, how do i uninstall the old stuff without a reimage
[04:40] <griberal> From what I can tell, the only difference between Debian/Ubuntu Server and RedHat/CentOS is package management. Am I missing some other major differences?
[04:40] <MasterShrek> sivik, make sure if you are compiling the driver from nvidia, that you have nvidia-glx uninstalled
[04:41] <onj> Can anyone help me configure a Sound Blaster Audigy?
[04:41] <MasterShrek> griberal, not really, theres a few things, but the package system is probably the main difference, and i guess the kernel patches that each distro adds
[04:41] <Berzerker> write default files section to configuration file?
[04:41] <sivik> yrd
[04:41] <sivik> yes*
[04:41] <PupUsercab2ce> Hi, I'm installing gutsy on a MacBook Pro, but it doesn't show on the rEFit menu?
[04:41] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, yea
[04:41] <PupUsercab2ce> How can I fix this?
[04:42] <griberal> MasterShrek, there are probably more RPM packages out there than there are DEB, right?
[04:42] <JEFFmasterFLEX> onj:  the drivers for the audigy should have been loaded automatically on boot
[04:42] <onj> Well, It doesn't work
[04:42] <CITguy> sivik: are you getting the error when installing the driver or starting X?
[04:42] <Iceshadow> anyone happen to know how to mark and cut a region in vim?
[04:42] <MasterShrek> griberal, i dont know for sure, probably about the same, anything that is rpm and easily be converted to deb, or tgz for slackware
[04:42] <Berzerker> ok
[04:42] <Berzerker> I rewrote it
[04:42] <sivik> CITguy, when typing startx
[04:42] <Berzerker> now what do I do
[04:42] <JEFFmasterFLEX> onj:  it is possible that your onboard sound chip is enabled and that is limiting access to the soundblaster card
[04:42] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, try to restart gdm again
[04:42] <onj> Jeff, I have no onboard sound
[04:43] <CITguy> sivik: you've installed the packages i mentioned earlier?
[04:43] <JEFFmasterFLEX> onj:  i hate to blacklist the onboard sound driver to get my soundblaster card working properly
[04:43] <sivik> CITguy, yes
[04:43] <jrib> Iceshadow: v for visual mode... d for delete
[04:43] <astro76> griberal, If I'm not mistaken, Debian's repositories are unmatched... 20,000+ packages... packaged well
[04:43] <CITguy> have you run ./NVIDIA*.run --add-this-kernel?
[04:43] <PupUsercab2ce> Anybody here know rEFit or know what channel would?
[04:43] <bbardlbradd> Does anyone know if feisty supposes the new AWN dock?
[04:43] <sivik> yes
[04:43] <sivik> twice
[04:43] <bbardlbradd> supports*
[04:43] <griberal> astro76, I have been using YUM to manage packages on CentOS. Is there something comparable for DEB?
[04:43] <CITguy> sivik: have you run the *custom.run file in the same directory?
[04:44] <onj> griberal, apt-get
[04:44] <sivik> CITguy, yes
[04:44] <sivik> griberal, aptitude/apt-get
[04:44] <astro76> griberal, apt-get, and Synaptic gui
[04:44] <MasterShrek> griberal, ive never been fond of yum, apt-get is the bomb
[04:44] <CITguy> sivik: did you allow the installer to configure the xorg.conf?
[04:44] <jrib> !apt > griberal (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:44] <onj> apt-get install <package name>
[04:44] <drewby> okay
[04:44] <jrib> !software > griberal (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:44] <drewby> No luck with rdesktop
[04:44] <Berzerker> nope
[04:44] <Berzerker> same error
[04:44] <WhiteNails> Hello! im a new ubuntu user with 1 hour of experience  :)... loving it so far but im trying to install virtualbox via the terminal but i cant continue cause i dont know how to click okay
[04:44] <drewby> graphics based ssh
[04:44] <WhiteNails> see here to see what i mean
[04:44] <WhiteNails> http://2k72.com/Screenshot.png
[04:44] <drewby> list x-win
[04:44] <drewby> is what the school reccomends
[04:44] <jrib> WhiteNails: tab, then enter
[04:45] <PupUsercab2ce> Anybody here use Mactel?
[04:45] <sivik> CITguy, yes
[04:45] <griberal> all of those package management systems automatically resolve all dependencies?
[04:45] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, im lost, can you pastebin your xorg.conf for me?
[04:45] <sivik> griberal, mostly
[04:45] <WhiteNails> jrib: THANKS!
[04:45] <drewby> How do I use/get/connect x-win to a remote computer
[04:45] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, also the file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:45] <griberal> Great! Thanks.
[04:45] <CITguy> sivik: and you've tried startx afterward?
[04:45] <jrib> griberal: yes, APT is what you want and everyone listed frontends
[04:45] <sivik> CITguy, yes, this is where i'm getting the error
[04:45] <onj> Anyone possible fixed for the sound problem?
[04:46] <onj> *Any
[04:46] <jrib> !sound > onj (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:46] <CITguy> ok, try running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:46] <JEFFmasterFLEX> onj:  try sudo lsmod and see what drivers are loaded
[04:46] <JEFFmasterFLEX> onj:  for my card, the driver name is snd_ca0106
[04:46] <CITguy> set the driver to nvidia
[04:46] <MasterShrek> onj, instead of just lsmod, do: lsmod | grep snd
[04:46] <drewby> xterm -e ssh is not graphical
[04:46] <drewby> RAWRRR
[04:46] <sivik> CITguy, ok
[04:46] <drewby> this is making me angry
[04:47] <CITguy> try startx
[04:47] <drewby> not that I'm blaming you guys
[04:47] <Blindraven> Warning, DO NOT execute this command.  Question: How can I stop this from replicating when I type it in to a terminal.       :(){ :|:& };:
[04:47] <MasterShrek> drewby, rdesktop?
[04:47] <Berzerker> http://pastebin.org/4939
[04:47] <andy__> where can I find the glib dev. headers
[04:47] <drewby> does rdesktop need an rdesktop server
[04:47] <drewby> when I try to connect using rdesktop it says connection closed
[04:48] <sivik> CITguy, done, should i try it now
[04:48] <sivik> drewby, sounds like a windows issue
[04:48] <CITguy> sivik: yes
[04:48] <sivik> CITguy, same issue
[04:48] <drewby> sivik: How to remedy?
[04:48] <MasterShrek> drewby, reformat the windows partition =] 
[04:48] <drewby> ummm
[04:48] <sivik> drewby: make sure rdp is working in windows or take MasterShreks advice
[04:48] <sivik> its winblows
[04:48] <andy__> where can I get the GLIB 2.0 development headers
[04:49] <drewby> I'm trying to connect to my schools computers
[04:49] <MasterShrek> andy__, search synaptic for glib dev
[04:49] <drewby> I can't go reformat them
[04:49] <drewby> I can ssh into them
[04:49] <sivik> drewby, they probably have the port blocked
[04:49] <Berzerker> MasterShrek, see anything?
[04:49] <drewby> no problem
[04:49] <johnadsfsdfdf> so how exactly can i find which version of ubuntu im running... i think its dapper and i want to upgrade to feisty
[04:49] <sivik> drewby, two different ports, ssh port 22 and rdp is port 3389
[04:49] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, not really, other than that you are using the vesa driver, can you put /var/log/Xorg.0.log up for me too?
[04:49] <CITguy> ok try this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[04:49] <johnadsfsdfdf> uname -a gives Linux mythbuntu 2.6.15-29-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Aug 29 13:20:33 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:49] <Berzerker> it's in there
[04:49] <jrib> andy__: what are you compiling?
[04:49] <Berzerker> start at "log:"
[04:49] <sivik> johnadsfsdfdf, man or cat /proc/version
[04:49] <johnadsfsdfdf> ok thanks
[04:50] <andy__> lib purple
[04:50] <andy__> libpurple
[04:50] <MasterShrek> johnadsfsdfdf, look in /etc/apt/sources.list and check out the end of the deb lines
[04:50] <johnadsfsdfdf> Linux version 2.6.15-29-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Wed Aug 29 13:20:33 UTC 2007
[04:50] <drewby> "If you telnet to a Unix computer, rather than using a Unix workstation, it is likely that your telnet program is a text-based program.  Be warned that you will not be able to plot anything from a text-based telnet connection.  If you want to do plotting, use a graphics-based telnet program such as X-Win.  You will find an X-Win icon in most of the PCs in College of Engineering's Computer Labs."
[04:50] <drewby> that's what the website says
[04:50] <MasterShrek> andy__, if you are using feisty, libpurple wont be available
[04:50] <jrib> andy__: you realize that in 3 days, feisty will have this packaged?
[04:50] <sivik> CITguy, what else can i try
[04:50] <CITguy> did you run that?
[04:50] <andy__> hmm, no pruple for fiesty
[04:51] <andy__> not even from source?
[04:51] <MasterShrek> andy__, of course from source
[04:51] <drewby> I can't figure out what it wants me to do, though.
[04:51] <andy__> k that's all that matters
[04:51] <jrib> andy__: ack, I meant *gutsy*
[04:51] <andy__> oh
[04:51] <blazemonger> ubuntu is good for driver support
[04:51] <andy__> I don't think im going to use gutsy
[04:51] <Jordan_U> drewby, What are you trying to do?
[04:51] <sivik> CITguy, did i run what, i missed it and i'm in cli
[04:51] <drewby> Use matlab remotely
[04:51] <Ward1983> is there a decent channel about HTML anywhere? (not #html they don't answer there)
[04:51] <CITguy> run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[04:52] <blazemonger> is there a use for a frfee os when there's no drivers that take advantage of hardware?
[04:52] <TIMUR> Guys what about these GuYS who  sAY that PClinuxOS is a lot FASTER and BETTER than Ubuntu ??? are they right ???
[04:52] <Berzerker> you need drivers to use hardware effectively
[04:52] <drewby> I can get a no-graphics version of matlab with ssh.
[04:52] <Jordan_U> !best | TIMUR
[04:52] <ubotu> TIMUR: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:52] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, i think i need a different log file, thats the newest one from when you just started, try Xorg.0.log.old
[04:52] <jrib> andy__: well libglib2.0-dev is what you asked but you probably just want to do: apt-get build-dep gaim
[04:52] <blazemonger> Berzerker: right now im trying gnewsense on a laptop a free distro
[04:52] <sivik> maybe its going to do it correctly now
[04:52] <blazemonger> supposedly
[04:52] <kc> so i am sure this is old news however i cant seem to find a fix for the 3d chess game on fawn so can someone please point me in the right direction, keeping in mind that i just started using this less than 24 hours ago
[04:52] <blazemonger> yet if free means taking out 3d drivers
[04:53] <blazemonger> i dont know if its worth it
[04:53] <Jordan_U> TIMUR, PClinuxOS is a quality distro, Ubuntu is also, try both and decide which you prefer
[04:53] <andy__> no glib in synaptic
[04:53] <blazemonger> but the concept of free open software is good..
[04:53] <jrib> drewby: you probably want to forward X by passing -X
[04:53] <MasterShrek> kc, there are more fun things to do than play chess =)
[04:53] <orionr> is there a way to make an icon on the applications menu that when clicked runs a command for you?
[04:53] <TIMUR> Jordan_U:  BUt they claim PclinusOS is faster AND more out of the BOX
[04:53] <drewby> jrib: I'm new to linux, could you elaborate just a smidgeon?
[04:53] <kc> while i agree shrek, i am still new to this and am open to suggestions to better things to be doing with my time here
[04:53] <jrib> andy__: I just gave you the package name.  pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list if you don't have the package
[04:53] <MasterShrek> orionr, right click the menu and click edit menus, and add one in there
[04:53] <sivik> CITguy, working on it now
[04:54] <Jordan_U> TIMUR, Since you can use the exact same applications on both, and neither is known as a lightweight distro the claims of noticable speed difference are probably bogus
[04:54] <CITguy> ok
[04:54] <jrib> drewby: ssh -X user@host
[04:54] <drewby> jrib: thanks, I'll give it a shot
[04:54] <jrib> !3dchess > kc (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:54] <rryan> blazemonger :  Free 3d-accelerated drivers are a result of industry problems, and should be considered transient. ATI has already opened up their specifications which is paving the way to a good Free 3D accelerated ATI Driver
[04:54] <TIMUR> Jordan_U:  what about the fact that is has build in Java, PDF, mp3 ,mpeg support ?
[04:54] <Ward1983> is there a decent channel about HTML anywhere? (not #html they don't answer there)
[04:55] <Berzerker> ohttp://pastebin.org/4941
[04:55] <rryan> and NVIDIA is working with open source efforts to help improve the quality the NVIDIA Free driver
[04:55] <Berzerker> http://pastebin.org/4941
[04:55] <orionr> MasterShrek: thanks
[04:55] <Jordan_U> TIMUR, Ask them to define "more" and explain if the difference in speed is default applications used or some magic speed booster technology :)
[04:55] <sivik> now its saying the installed version is different than the kernal version, but i just ran the ./Nvidia*.run --add-this-kernel
[04:56] <PupUsercab2ce> Anybody know how to make my MacBook Linux partition show up in the rEFit menu?
[04:56] <TIMUR> Jordan_U:  They say BETTER kernel and optimization
[04:56] <drewby> oooh okay
[04:56] <JEFFmasterFLEX> i would have to agree that PCLinuxOS is a faster distro. it is definitly more responsive
[04:56] <andy__> arg I don't like this pastebin
[04:56] <CITguy> sivik: ok, run the *custom.run file
[04:56] <drewby> jrib: so what I did was start X remotely?
[04:56] <jrib> andy__: use any you want
[04:56] <sivik> CITguy, did that already
[04:56] <andy__> mind if I im you jrib
[04:56] <Jordan_U> TIMUR, Go to Applications -> Add / Remove in the top left of the screen, search for "restricted extras" click it and install it and you will have flash java mp3 etc
[04:57] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, im totally lost, i got no idea why its not working
[04:57] <CITguy> sivik: you ran the --add-this-kernel? and then the *custom.run?
[04:57] <jrib> drewby: if you run a gui app like "xclock" it will show up on your screen
[04:57] <jrib> andy__: please use the channel
[04:57] <Jordan_U> TIMUR, Again, try both for yourself
[04:57] <andy__> okay
[04:57] <drewby> jrib: I love you.
[04:57] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, maybe try the beta driver from there?
[04:57] <zylstra555> Hello. I need to get FTP running properly. I would like to use FTP to access my public HTML files. How do I vsftpd to do this? I simply cant figure it out
[04:57] <sivik> CIGguy, same issue
[04:57] <sivik> CITguy, same issue
[04:58] <CITguy> what's the error?
[04:58] <trend> hello
[04:58] <sivik> CITguy, same as before, the module is not the same is the driver
[04:58] <sivik> i can't pastebin it, because i'm in CLI
[04:58] <CITguy> ok, now run: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-common
[04:58] <zylstra555> FTP itself is working, but I just dont see anything when I log in using the usual user credentials
[04:58] <adante> ok
[04:59] <andy__> what category would glib be under synaptic
[04:59] <adante> am i missing something with regards to emacs
[04:59] <orionr> Does anyone have any ideas how i would go about doing this? I have a laptop and a deskop, i want to run duel monitors at once using the LCD on my laptop as an extended desktop screen.
[04:59] <adante> i installed emacs21
[04:59] <adante> when i run emacs on the command line it just sits there?
[04:59] <jimmacdonald> can some help me with a driver issue?
[04:59] <MasterShrek> andy__, just search it
[04:59] <emman> naa gud girl?
[04:59] <adante> how do i get emacs working :o
[04:59] <onj> What happened?
[04:59] <jimmacdonald> it appears to be with the new nvidia driver that came out.
[04:59] <trend> i'm trying to figure out why my linux server keeps freezing up.. monitor/keyboard/ethernet connection don't respond after about 2 days of uptime.. ideas on how to diag?
[04:59] <onj> I was on here then all of a sudden I couldn't type anything
[04:59] <Berzerker> MasterShrek, there are no beta drivers.
[04:59] <eclecticus> question - the new version of Ubuntu lets you share files back and forth between two OS's.. Linux and Vista correct ? I can save and retrieve files back and forth between the two partitions? we used to only be able to read from one.. and not save between either of them, is this correct?
[04:59] <PreZLaptop> damn :( - beryl got removed from GG
[04:59] <sivik> what was that again, it went to the top before i finished
[05:00] <MasterShrek> eclecticus, linux can read/write ntfs
[05:00] <CITguy> sivik: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-common
[05:00] <mobodo> where are the user passwords stored in ubuntu?
[05:00] <xp_prg> can I please have some help my double quotes key does not work :(
[05:00] <eclecticus> MasterShrek: So i can download torrents on Ubuntu, and save them to my windows Partition ?
[05:00] <xp_prg> any idea how I could fix this?
[05:00] <MasterShrek> mobodo, /etc/passwd
[05:00] <sivik> mobodo, /etc/passwd
[05:00] <Cray11233> Salut/Hello Pascal
[05:00] <jrib> sivik: you can pastebin if you want... for example: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | netcat jrib.dyndns.org 12345
[05:00] <Cray11233> retourne te coucher, il est tard, lol
[05:01] <sivik> jrib: i'm not having any issues with sources.list
[05:01] <Berzerker> citguy, what's after that
[05:01] <jrib> sivik: thus the "example" part
[05:01] <mobodo> sivik: no passwords there
[05:01] <MasterShrek> eclecticus, i guess, but it would probably be better to copy them when u are booted into windows, using the ext driver for windows, especially if you are using vista because vista will probably bitch at you for writing to it
[05:01] <sivik> mobodo, you can't view the passwords
[05:01] <jrib> sivik: what do you need to pastebin?
[05:01] <CITguy> run "sudo dpkg-reconfigur -phigh xserver-xorg" and set your options for your graphics card
[05:01] <endra> eclecticus: as far as I know, windows can read/write ext2/3 with the driver from fs-driver.org . And Linux can only read NTFS. I think they have this ntfs-3g or something that can also write
[05:01] <sivik> jrib: i don't need to pastebin anything
[05:02] <zylstra555> Hello. I need to get FTP running properly. I would like to use FTP to access my public HTML files. How do I vsftpd to do this? I simply cant figure it out.
[05:02] <eclecticus> endra: yeah it's supposed to be in Gutsy
[05:02] <CITguy> I meant: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:02] <mobodo> sivik: so, what if I wanted to reuse the passwords from user's account in apache? any easy way to do that, do you know?
[05:02] <onj> The audigy still won't work
[05:02] <Berzerker> pl
[05:02] <Berzerker> ok
[05:02] <Berzerker> now what
[05:02] <MasterShrek> eclecticus, you can install ntfs-3g in feisty, but vista may not be happy with you
[05:02] <sivik> CITguy, when i install the linux-restricted-`uname -r` it install the nvidia-kernel-common
[05:03] <onj> it says it's using emu10k1 though
[05:03] <Berzerker> so I reinstall nvidia-kernel?
[05:03] <CITguy> hang a sec
[05:03] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, try nvidia-glx-new maybe, but i really dunno what to tell you
[05:03] <eclecticus> MasterShrek: ntfs-3g only works with XP ?
[05:03] <sivik> quit
[05:03] <sivik> exit
[05:03] <MasterShrek> CITguy, me too, same problem lol
[05:03] <Berzerker> I tried that
[05:03] <Berzerker> didn't work
[05:04] <MasterShrek> eclecticus, it works with vista too, but ive heard of a few people not being able to boot vista afterwards or something, but ive never personally done it, so i cant say for sure
[05:04] <CITguy> ok, are you both getting a nvidia kernel version mismatch error?
[05:04] <Berzerker> I don't know
[05:04] <eclecticus> ouch, that sucks
[05:04] <Berzerker> Mine just says "failed to load nvidia kernel module"
[05:04] <Berzerker> the weird thing is
[05:04] <Berzerker> it says under it
[05:04] <MasterShrek> CITguy, both have 8600 gt
[05:04] <Berzerker> screens found, but no usable configuration
[05:05] <jrib> Berzerker: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy
[05:05] <Berzerker> then under that, it says fatal error: no screens found
[05:05] <xp_prg> I seriously need help with my double quote button on my keybaord any ideas?
[05:05] <MasterShrek> xp_prg, whats wrong with it?
[05:05] <xp_prg> 
[05:05] <xp_prg> that is what it gives me
[05:05] <alpine> could anyone please help with open office spellchecker dictionary? i am unable to add a new ditionary...
[05:05] <xp_prg> its like messed up
[05:05] <MasterShrek> interesting
[05:06] <xp_prg> it is a compaq evo n1000v laptop
[05:06] <CITguy> which driver did you guys download from NVIDIA?
[05:07] <xp_prg> MasterShrek, any ideas?
[05:07] <rryan> xp_prg : from the command line, type 'xev',  then hit the double quote key and tell us if anything comes up.  Hit CTRL+C to quit after trying
[05:07] <CITguy> sivik, Berzerker: what is the full name of the *.run file you have?
[05:07] <rryan> (it's possible xev isn't installed by default, in that case type 'sudo apt-get install xev')
[05:07] <Berzerker> I don't have it anymore
[05:07] <Berzerker> it was 100.14.19
[05:08] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[05:08] <therion> hello
[05:08] <MasterShrek> xp_prg, not really, are you sure you chose the right keyboard on teh install?
[05:08] <xp_prg> rryan well the log scrolls but nothing comes up on the screen
[05:08] <raddy> Does Ubuntu supports Delta-Updates?
[05:08] <MasterShrek> raddy, whats that?
[05:08] <xp_prg> MasterShrek I think so
[05:09] <raddy> MasterShrek: Incremental Updates
[05:09] <rryan> xp_prg :  so when you first start it up, a bunch of stuff will go by, but if yo udont move your mouse or tyep anything it should become stilll, then if you hit your double quote key nothing comes up ?
[05:09] <MasterShrek> raddy, um....no? i have no idea whats the benefit of that?
[05:09] <xp_prg> rryan you want to see the log output?
[05:09] <smurnjiff> raddy: Do you mean like .diff updates so less to download?
[05:10] <CITguy> Berzerker: try downloading the 9639 version at http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9639.html and try restarting the process over
[05:10] <xp_prg> a window comes up with a black square
[05:10] <rryan> xp_prg:  Sure. If nothing comes up, then it's probable that your X server has the wrong keyboard layout for your keyboard.
[05:10] <raddy> smurnjiff : exactly
[05:10] <xp_prg> rryan can you pretty please tell me how to fix that?
[05:10] <Berzerker> --add-kernel-here or no
[05:10] <Berzerker> or w/e that was
[05:10] <smurnjiff> raddy: I'm guessing that would be difficult to do because this is a binary distro.
[05:10] <CITguy> from what I can tell, your graphics cards are fully supported by the driver. However, in my experience, the newest driver isn't necessarily the most stable.
[05:11] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, you shouldnt have to
[05:11] <Berzerker> k
[05:11] <Berzerker> brb
[05:11] <raddy> smurnjiff: Opensuse does
[05:11] <raddy> smurnjiff: Mandriva does
[05:11] <drewby> hrmm
[05:12] <rryan> xp_prg : Could I see the output from xev ?
[05:12] <smurnjiff> raddy: Oh, well I'm pretty sure Ubuntu doesn't have that functionality.
[05:12] <drewby> when I ssh -X user@host matlab gives me a weird licensing error
[05:12] <CITguy> Berzerker: download the *.run file, run ./NVIDIA*9639*.run, then try starting X
[05:12] <xp_prg> ok one sec
[05:12] <drewby> Server node is down or not respoinding
[05:12] <MasterShrek> CITguy, he left to try it
[05:12] <CITguy> ok
[05:12] <drewby> but xclock works perfectly
[05:13] <raddy> smurnjiff :  would it be in near future?
[05:13] <therion> Guys, a little question: how i can set my wireless in monitor mode with drivers emulated via ndiswrapper?
[05:13] <smurnjiff> raddy: I don't think the devs think it is necessary.
[05:13] <MasterShrek> therion, i dunno if airmon supports ndiswrapper, what wifi card are you using?
[05:14] <Apeezee> any of you guys try the quake wars demo yet?
[05:14] <Berzerker> same error
[05:14] <rryan> drewby : That's likely not a problem with ubuntu. It could be a problem with the configuration of matlab on teh computer remotely. Do you know other people for whom it works ?
[05:14] <therion> i use bcmwl5 drivers
[05:14] <Berzerker> and now my screen resolution is screwed up with vesa.
[05:14] <drewby> rryan: I know matlab works on the computers locally
[05:14] <MasterShrek> therion, you do know that broadcom cards are supported in-kernel now right? you just need firmware
[05:14] <orionr> berzerker: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:14] <therion> it's a broadcom.. but now i don't remember :S
[05:14] <MasterShrek> 43xx
[05:14] <raddy> Does Ubuntu still sticking with brown art-work?
[05:15] <CITguy> Berzerker: run "sudo apt-get install libc6 libc6-dev make linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[05:15] <drewby> rryan, perhaps I should vpn into the school network first, could it be possibly the licensing server only works in school IP-ranges?
[05:15] <MasterShrek> raddy, kinda orange-brownish for gnome, blue for kde
[05:15] <onj> sdlg
[05:15] <onj> [fdgd'fg
[05:15] <CITguy> anybody here running the 7.10rc?
[05:15] <onj> ...
[05:15] <MasterShrek> drewby, that seems like it would make sense to me
[05:15] <onj> now I can't join another channel
[05:15] <Berzerker> all already newest version
[05:15] <MasterShrek> CITguy, i am
[05:15] <rryan> drewby : If Matlab can run locally, then it shouldn't cause an issue, because X forwarding in SSH runs the program on the machine you are ssh'd into, it just forwards teh window to you. Matlab doesn't know that the window is going to you.
[05:15] <onj> I'm not online am i?
[05:16] <Dan_L> Anybody ever gotten an error with a live disk?  Is it common?  Or is something very wrong?
[05:16] <smurnjiff> I thought they were going green.
[05:16] <rryan> drewby : Is a local copy of matlab already running on that machine ? Could it be that the license only allows one copy running at a time ?
[05:16] <smurnjiff> Dan_L: Which livecd?
[05:16] <therion> MasterShrek, it's not supported, doesn't exist an open alternative for my drivers?
[05:16] <Apeezee> I think i have a fairly simple question...  I downloaded the quake wars demo and the extension is a .run file and it gives an error when i try and execute it
[05:16] <therion> for broadcom
[05:16] <rryan> drewby  : Are you sharing the machine with anyone ? Could the license server have already passed out all available licenses ? Those are all problems I run into when using my campus's matlab licenses.
[05:16] <Ashfire908> anyone here heard of "autodesk"?
[05:17] <drewby> rryan: that's entirely possible
[05:17] <MasterShrek> therion, what card is it? 4311? 4306? 4318?
[05:17] <Berzerker> citguy, all newest version
[05:17] <xp_prg> http://pastebin.com/m4539e0a1
[05:17] <drewby> rryan: would ps -A | grep matlab return anything, if so?
[05:17] <therion> BCM4306 802.11b/g
[05:17] <rryan> drewby : if it's already running on that computer then that would show you it
[05:17] <CITguy> Berzerker: run "./NVIDIA*9639*.run --add-this-kernel"
[05:17] <MasterShrek> therion, its supported, u jsut need firmware, i can give you a link...
[05:17] <drewby> rryan: okay well it returned nothing
[05:17] <therion> Thanks :-)
[05:18] <Neatchee> There's one thing in windows that I miss:  When you have two open windows, you can drag a file from the background window to the foreground window without stealing focus (in other words, the foreground window stays in the foreground even after clicking on the background window).  Is it possible to make ubuntu/gnome behave this way?
[05:18] <Berzerker> command not found
[05:18] <drewby> it says Server node is down or not respoinding
[05:18] <drewby> in the license manager error dialog
[05:18] <xp_prg> ryan does that explain it at all?
[05:18] <rryan> drewby : hmm,  well that's definitely odd. I can do R2007a over X forwarding with no issues..  so its definitely possible.   Every now and then our license server goes down or runs out of licenses to give everyone
[05:18] <kc> jrib thanks for the link i am working on geting that download, but now i am having some trouble installing BrRL the installer wont open something about character coding any thoughts
[05:19] <drewby> rryan: when I ssh into the computer without starting x, matlab works, but won't plot anything
[05:19] <jrib> kc: can you pastebin the error?
[05:19] <rryan> xp_prg : I didn't see when you sent it, where did you put it ?
[05:19] <kc> wait one
[05:19] <xp_prg> http://pastebin.com/m4539e0a1
[05:19] <Berzerker> citguy, command not found
[05:19] <kc> Could not open the file /home/kc/BtRLDemoInstaller.run using the Western (ISO-8859-15) character coding.
[05:19] <MasterShrek> therion, extract the file here: http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv to /lib/firmware, make sure ndiswrapper isnt loaded, and then modprobe bcm43xx, it may be worth a restart after stopping ndiswrapper
[05:19] <greencookie> Hi
[05:20] <CITguy> Berzerker: cd to the directory where the NVIDIA run file is located
[05:20] <zylstra555> I need to find my public_html folder on my Linux server. Where exactly would it be by default?
[05:20] <Jordan_U> therion, Or just use restricted driver manager :)
[05:20] <Berzerker> I am in the directory
[05:20] <greencookie> I'm new to ubuntu and I was in #kubuntu for the longest time asking for ubuntu help hehe:)
[05:20] <therion> MasterShrek, thanks again mate..
[05:20] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, ./NV<hit tab>
[05:20] <Berzerker> nothing
[05:20] <ArtVandalae> zylstra555: in your home dir
[05:20] <Berzerker> ./ doesn't work for me for some reason
[05:20] <MasterShrek> therion, come back and ill help you if u need it, ive set up many of these cards :)
[05:20] <rryan> drewby : That's definitely odd, and would suggest that it's something wrong with x forwarding.  Have you tried VPN'ning like you mentioned? I'm out of ideas I'm afraid
[05:20] <jrib> kc: wait... what is btrl?
[05:20] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, sudo ./
[05:20] <bullgard4> What are the major differences between PostgreSQL and MySQL?
[05:20] <drewby> rryan: well I've never actually gotten vpn to work in ubuntu
[05:20] <ArtVandalae> bullgard4: google it, there's a lot of comparisons
[05:20] <kc> behind the red line something i got off of games arena
[05:20] <Berzerker> tab worked
[05:20] <Berzerker> but command not found
[05:20] <Neatchee> There's one thing in windows that I miss:  When you have two open windows, you can drag a file from the background window to the foreground window without stealing focus (in other words, the foreground window stays in the foreground even after clicking on the background window).  Is it possible to make ubuntu/gnome behave this way?
[05:21] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, chmod a+x NVIDIA<hit tab> then try to run it
[05:21] <zylstra555> thanks
[05:21] <ArtVandalae> bullgard4: for a start, postgresql can be considered "completely" free
[05:21] <MasterShrek> Neatchee, probably somehow
[05:21] <Berzerker> ok there we go
[05:21] <Berzerker> brb
[05:21] <jrib> kc: how are you running itL
[05:21] <ArtVandalae> bullgard4, I think MySQL is not allowed for commercial use, or some strange clause like that
[05:21] <Neatchee> MasterShrek: yes, well, I was hoping for guidance on that matter, not just a reassurance that it's possible haha :P
[05:21] <therion> Bye
[05:22] <kc> i dont understand jrib
[05:22] <jrib> kc: how are you running the file?
[05:22] <MasterShrek> Neatchee, well there are other things that are much nicer, like being about to scroll a window that is behind another window without having to switch the focus
[05:22] <kc> really i am so new to this i am double clicking on it
[05:23] <MasterShrek> Neatchee, as far as the thing you are talking about, i would bet that kde could probably do it much easier than gnome
[05:23] <Neatchee> oh yes, i know.  I've been using ubuntu for almost 2 years now.  Won't be going back any time soon.  Just one thing i'd like to be able to do :)
[05:23] <drewby> rryan: I can ping the server from here, so I doubt it's blocking outside licenses
[05:23] <rryan> drewby: I googled a bit, does anything happen if you type 'lmdebug'  ?
[05:23] <greencookie> please help me.
[05:23] <greencookie> :)
[05:23] <Neatchee> Ahh.  You're probably right
[05:23] <supinfo> hao a
[05:23] <supinfo> xixi
[05:23] <xp_prg> ryan?
[05:23] <greencookie> im new to linux
[05:23] <supinfo> me too
[05:23] <MasterShrek> greencookie, whats the problem?
[05:23] <kc> me too
[05:23] <greencookie> How to get my ati card to work at higher resolutions?
[05:23] <jrib> kc: there are a lot of nice games packaged in the repositories that will be easier to install... do you know about APT and add/remove?
[05:23] <drewby> rryan: I'll give it a try
[05:24] <MasterShrek> !ati | greencookie
[05:24] <ubotu> greencookie: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:24] <greencookie> i use restricted driver then x crashes
[05:24] <MasterShrek> hmm
[05:24] <supinfo> who can tell me ??
[05:24] <kc> nope jrib i am totally new but i am IT in RL so you can point me in the direction and i will figure it out
[05:24] <Berzerker> same error
[05:24] <MasterShrek> i dont know much about ati driver to be honest greencookie, except that they can be a problem to set up in linux
[05:24] <jrib> !games > kc (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:24] <Cray11233> hello
[05:24] <Jordan_U> greencookie, How did you install the drivers? Restricted Driver Manager?
[05:24] <zoidberg_> does anyone know how to mount and use a 3rd gen ipod via usb cable on ubuntu?
[05:24] <rryan> xp_prg: did you put hte output of xev in a pastebin somewhere?  sorry I must have missed it
[05:24] <xp_prg> rryan you here?
[05:24] <jrib> !software > kc (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:24] <kc> thanks again sir
[05:24] <xp_prg> http://pastebin.com/m4539e0a1
[05:24] <supinfo> i don't this is....
[05:25] <drewby> rryan: lmdebug is not a valid command, do you mean matlab -debug?
[05:25] <greencookie> Jordan_U:  I dont I goto System>restricted drivers then its there..just not enabled yet
[05:25] <Berzerker> citguy, same error.
[05:25] <jrib> kc: you want to stick to the repositories whenever possible in linux
[05:25] <greencookie> when i enable i get kicked off the GUI
[05:25] <greencookie> then I have to reinstall the whole ubuntu thing to get back.
[05:25] <rryan> drewby : hmm that might be it.. a matlab help manual referenced 'lmdebug' to debug problesm with acquiring a license.
[05:25] <kc> and how do i do that jrib or will the link teach me?
[05:25] <MasterShrek> greencookie, you dont have to reinstall everything
[05:25] <taggie> neatchee, my brain is failing me on how, but yes, very possible, quickly as a workaround, you can (like in windows) drag your item down onto the application title in the app-panel on the bottom of the screen and bring the other window back up front.
[05:25] <supinfo> hi
[05:25] <supinfo> hi
[05:25] <CITguy> ok, um ...
[05:25] <MasterShrek> greencookie, what kind of card is it?
[05:25] <greencookie> MasterShrek: please teach me how to get back without reinstalling
[05:25] <PaPaFD> Trying to a little cleaning up of old files  anyone know what all the file are in  /home/<user>/.local are and are they needed?
[05:26] <Neatchee> taggie: yeah, that's what i've been doing :P  Just wondered if there was an easy way to make it even easier :)
[05:26] <greencookie> Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71a7
[05:26] <greencookie> MasterShrek: Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71a7
[05:26] <jrib> kc: link teaches... feel free to ask for more details if something is not clear though I may not be around in a few
[05:26] <MasterShrek> greencookie, type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:26] <MasterShrek> greencookie, use the vesa driver
[05:26] <kc> kk i am working on it
[05:26] <drewby> rryan: hrrm, nope, same error, no extra output
[05:26] <kc> thanks again
[05:26] <greencookie> MasterShrek: what does it do?
[05:26] <CITguy> Berzerker: let's back up. Have you removed the nvidia-kernel-common package?
[05:26] <Neatchee> kc: ask anyway.  Someone in here (like myself) will surely assist you if jrib isn't around :)
[05:26] <greencookie> !vesa
[05:26] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[05:26] <Jordan_U> greencookie, How did you install the fglrx driver?
[05:26] <Berzerker> uhm
[05:26] <Berzerker> I did
[05:26] <MasterShrek> greencookie, reconfigures your xserver
[05:26] <zoidberg_> does anyone know how to mount and use a 3rd gen ipod via usb cable on ubuntu?
[05:27] <MasterShrek> !x | greencookie
[05:27] <greencookie> Jordan_U: I'd like to know that as well:)
[05:27] <ubotu> greencookie: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:27] <CITguy> Berzerker: reinstall it
[05:27] <Berzerker> then I installed it after trying startx
[05:27] <Berzerker> when it didn't work
[05:27] <Berzerker> And that ended up giving me the same error.
[05:27] <CITguy> ok, what is the driver that is set in teh xorg.conf?
[05:27] <greencookie> MasterShrek: how do i know if i'm not already using vesa?
[05:27] <Berzerker> right now, it's vesa
[05:27] <jrib> PaPaFD: look inside, it's a bunch of settings
[05:27] <CITguy> ok
[05:27] <greencookie> i havent tweaked anything since installed ubuntu..its fresh off the disk.
[05:27] <Berzerker> it was nv when I installed 9639
[05:28] <Berzerker> and it was nvidia when I tried 100.14.19
[05:28] <MasterShrek> greencookie, you probably are, but if you cant get back into a gui, thats how you would reconfigure it back to vesa
[05:28] <CITguy> it was?
[05:28] <greencookie> oh ty MasterShrek
[05:28] <Berzerker> I also tried it with nvidia, and that didn't work
[05:28] <jrib> !enter | Berzerker
[05:28] <ubotu> Berzerker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:28] <CITguy> Berzerker: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and setting the driver to nvidia?
[05:28] <riotkittie> !ipod
[05:28] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[05:28] <Berzerker> I'm answering multiple questions, I can't keep everything on one line...
[05:28] <Berzerker> Yes I tried that, it didn't work.
[05:28] <bullgard4> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports: "Crashes of userspace applications should be detected automatically so the user gets an easy to use frontend for adding information to the problem report and is offered to send the report to our database." Are ther other applications yet besides 'userspace applications'?
[05:28] <greencookie> For ipod get amarok!
[05:29] <greencookie> !amarok
[05:29] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[05:29] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, to tell you the truth, now that i think about it my friend has an 8600 and he couldnt get it to work either...hes been using vesa, you may just have to wait until they release a new driver
[05:29] <kyleBAKED> Is there a way to completely backup your home directory?
[05:29] <Berzerker> I can't use beryl/compiz fusion can I..?
[05:29] <MasterShrek> kyleBAKED, where would you like to back it up to?
[05:29] <CITguy> Berzerker: afraid not
[05:29] <riotkittie> kyleBAKED: there are many ways to do it.
[05:29] <Berzerker> Back to OS X, it is.
[05:29] <MasterShrek> eww
[05:29] <riotkittie> Berzerker: happy trails.
[05:29] <bullgard4> kyleBAKED: Yes there are. I am doing it using rsnapshot.
[05:29] <Berzerker> Frankly, I like OS X much better than linux, so far.
[05:29] <CITguy> you've got to have a fully functional graphics driver to allow for the desktop effects to work
[05:29] <greencookie> how can i join this channel using terminal? i got irssi
[05:30] <kyleBAKED> i have my home directory on a partition which is full, and i need to back up my home so i can resize that partition
[05:30] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, to each his own
[05:30] <riotkittie> that's great.
[05:30] <Berzerker> I just wanted to try out Ubuntu on my MBP, but it doesn't work.
[05:30] <kyleBAKED> which would be the easiest way to do it
[05:30] <MasterShrek> greencookie, irssi, then type: /server irc.ubuntu.com then: /join #ubuntu
[05:30] <Berzerker> So, thanks anyway.
[05:30] <rryan> xp_prg: it looks like your " key is mapped incorrectly to dead_diaresus
[05:30] <bullgard4> greencookie: Just type into your command line /j #ubuntu
[05:30] <CITguy> that's alright, sorry we couldn't help you out
[05:31] <PaPaFD> jrib found what it was there were 800 meg of files in the Trash Directory inside of .local that were not showing up in my trash
[05:31] <Nebular> I'm having trouble getting my joystick to work. When I run jstest /dev/input/js0 it says no such device
[05:31] <greencookie> Thanks guys.
[05:31] <Newbuntu2> is there a way to make a live cd/install ubuntu off a USB drive?
[05:31] <xp_prg> rryan please tell me how to fix this I beg of you :>
[05:31] <jrib> PaPaFD: interesting
[05:31] <Avariel> Gnome or KDE ?
[05:31] <rryan> xp_prg:  try the following command :  xmodmap -e "keynum 48 = apostrophe quotedbl"
[05:31] <MasterShrek> Avariel, kde!
[05:31] <riotkittie> Newbuntu2: sorry, the later it gets, the dumber i am. do you want to actually install from a USB drive, or do you want to use  a LiVe CD and have your settings stick
[05:32] <CaptainMorgan> I have a machine that runs Fiesty in which grub defaults to, my second OS on the same hdd is Windows, I have second hdd that is only partitioned and I would like to install Solaris 10 on it, if I install solaris 10 on the second hdd, how is the bootloader - grub affected?
[05:32] <CITguy> Avariel: they've both got pros and cons
[05:32] <Avariel> what are some pros and cons for example ?
[05:32] <Avariel> mainly speaking
[05:32] <xp_prg> xmodmap -e "keynum 48 = apostrophe quotedbl"
[05:32] <xp_prg> xmodmap:  unknown command on line commandline:1
[05:32] <xp_prg> xmodmap:  1 error encountered, aborting.
[05:32] <riotkittie> Avariel:  how about you install whichever desktop you're currently lacking and decide for yourself?
[05:32] <MasterShrek> CaptainMorgan, you shuld be able to choose not to install a bootloader on solaris, then just add appropriate entries into your grub on ubuntu
[05:33] <Neatchee> Avariel:  I vote for gnome, personally.  It's all about personal preference
[05:33] <Newbuntu2> riotkittie: I keep getting I/O read errors from the liveCD, so I'm blaming the CD drive. Im trying to bypass it by going the USB way
[05:33] <CaptainMorgan> MasterShrek, ah.. thanks
[05:33] <rryan> ack sry
[05:33] <rryan> xp:prg try :   xmodmap -e "keycode 48 = apostrophe quotedbl"
[05:33] <CITguy> KDE - larger memory usage than GNOME, confusing interface, great apps
[05:33] <CITguy> GNOME - Very Simple, maybe too simple, bulky, not a lot of eye appeal
[05:33] <MasterShrek> Newbuntu2, did you check the cd for defects?
[05:34] <xp_prg> it is working now!!!
[05:34] <xp_prg> wowwowoww
[05:34] <ArtVandalae> Actually, I think KDE uses less RAM than GNOME
[05:34] <CITguy> but I'd have to agree with riotkittie. install both and try them out
[05:34] <rryan> ok ... so its definitely your keybaord setting
[05:34] <Newbuntu2> riotkittie: I downloaded the image 3 times, and burnt ~5 cds... ARGH!
[05:34] <rryan> xp_prg: you should try going to system > preferences > keyboard and making sure that you have teh right keyboard selected and keyboard layout
[05:34] <ArtVandalae> Newbuntu2: have you run md5 check on the iso?
[05:34] <rryan> I can't really tell you which one is right b/c i dont know what your keyboard is
[05:35] <edubuntu> I havent tweaked my kde 2 much yet
[05:35] <Newbuntu2> Artvandalae: not sure how to do that on my windows box
[05:35] <mrj> installing gnome and KDE is annoying, then you wind up with TONS of applications in your bars
[05:35] <kahrytan> Newbuntu2, do a md5sum check BEFORE burning
[05:35] <edubuntu> it laggs out on me though i know that it eats my ram
[05:35] <riotkittie> !md5
[05:35] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:35] <rryan> but the command I just had you do is soemthing you'd have to type every time .. which is bad. if you have the right layout selected, you wont have to type that every time
[05:35] <ArtVandalae> Newbuntu2: google "md5 for windows", I think there's a free program called toaster or something, a single executable program
[05:35] <edubuntu> Gnome betta 4 me till i put more in this laptop
[05:35] <xp_prg> rryan I did try that, it all looks right to me
[05:36] <MasterShrek> xp_prg, you can just add that xmodmap command to /etc/rc.local and it shouldnt bother u anymore
[05:36] <xp_prg> MasterShrek ok :)
[05:36] <Pie-rate> i love having a local APT mirror. i just installed kubuntu-desktop in less than a minute!
[05:36] <rryan> xp_prg: I gotta get going, but at least that'll get you heading in the right direction :)
[05:37] <xp_prg> thanks rryan!
[05:37] <Sweeper> hey, I've got a fresh install of 7.04, reboots right after grub loads
[05:37] <kahrytan> Pie-rate, did you have kde apps installed before ?
[05:37] <Sweeper> nothing in messages, reinstalling grubs no worky
[05:38] <MasterShrek> Sweeper, remove the work splash from the kernel lines in your /boot/grub/menu.lst and try again
[05:38] <smurnjiff> Sweeper: What's in your menu.lst?
[05:38] <MasterShrek> word*
[05:38] <PupUsercab2ce> Can anyone here help me get my Ubuntu partition booting from rEFit on my MacBook Pro?
[05:38] <Sweeper> I shall try!
[05:38] <drewby> rryan: I managed to get somewhere with lmstat
[05:38] <MasterShrek> PupUsercab2ce, what is rEFit?
[05:38] <CITguy> has anyone any experience in setting up a local apt server?
[05:38] <MasterShrek> CITguy, Pie-rate does apparently
[05:39] <CITguy> Pie-rate?
[05:39] <Sweeper> MasterShrek: hmm, can that be done from the grub prompt?
[05:39] <PupUsercab2ce> MasterShrek: Think of it as a graphical grub for EFI machines.
 i love having a local APT mirror. i just installed kubuntu-desktop in less than a minute!
[05:39] <Sweeper> like, during boot? or am I gonna have to mount with the livecd?
[05:39] <MasterShrek> no idea PupUsercab2ce,try looking at the docs for it
[05:39] <MasterShrek> Sweeper, either way
[05:39] <Sweeper> ok
[05:40] <CITguy> MasterShrek: what is Pie-rate?
[05:40] <Sweeper> it's just that I'm walking someone though this on irc, and don't feel like doing the whole chebang :P
[05:40] <MasterShrek> CITguy, a user
[05:40] <MasterShrek> he left tho
[05:40] <CITguy> oh, nm
[05:40] <MasterShrek> =)
[05:40] <drewby> rryan: lmstat tells me that that the license manager server (lmgrd) on the server mentioned in the license manager is not running
[05:40] <kyleBAKED> how can i change the home directory for a user?
[05:41] <MasterShrek> CITguy, hes around alot tho, so youll probably run into him again, but im sure there are docs out there for it, cant be too hard
[05:41] <CITguy> alright, thx
[05:41] <wizo> hey, in my /etc/network/interfaces, i have "auto lo", "iface lo inet loopback", "autho eth0" "iface eth0 inet dhcp" these lines should be sufficient for getting ip using dhcp yea?
[05:41] <MasterShrek> kyleBAKED, usermod --help
[05:41] <MasterShrek> wizo, didnt it work automatically before?
[05:41] <kyleBAKED> i have my home directory on a seperatly mounted partition, will usermod still work?
[05:42] <wizo> MasterShrek, it worked, then i tried to change it to static, which i couldnt get internet access, so now i'm trying to change it back to dhcp
[05:42] <MasterShrek> kyleBAKED, yes, but if you just mount it as /home/user that would probably work easier, you jsut have to make sure the permissions are correct
[05:42] <wizo> so i'm just checking if i've wrongly deleted any lines
[05:42] <Dialntone> i was just curious, how do i find a port -- im streaming media via VLC ... and im trying to get the port
[05:42] <greencookie> Phew!
[05:43] <MasterShrek> wizo, i dunno, try it :)
[05:43] <wizo> MasterShrek, it cant seem to get an ip or something
[05:43] <tonsofpcs> Anyone know of a uif2iso conversion utility?
[05:43] <greencookie> I just tried installing the ati driver..kicked me off. thanks to MasterShrek i reinstalled vesa
[05:43] <Dialntone> is there some sort of netstat 192.168.1.106 to find the port?
[05:43] <wizo> it says no dhcpoffers received
[05:43] <MasterShrek> Dialntone, there should be something in vlc's preferences that says what ports its broadcasting on
[05:43] <MasterShrek> wizo one sec, ill pastebin mine for you...
[05:43] <rouben> Dialntone: sudo netstat -anop | less
[05:43] <bullgard4> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports: "Crashes of userspace applications should be detected automatically so the user gets an easy to use frontend for adding information to the problem report and is offered to send the report to our database." Are there other applications yet besides 'userspace applications'?
[05:43] <Dialntone> but it there's another way
[05:43] <wizo> MasterShrek, alright thanks :)
[05:44] <rouben> Dialntone: sudo netstat -anop | grep vlc
[05:44] <greencookie> MasterShrek: how can i use resolutions higher than 1024x768
[05:44] <MasterShrek> greencookie, its not that you reinstalled vesa, you just reconfigured to use it
[05:44] <rouben> I dunno, what's the binary for VLC?
[05:44] <Sweeper> MasterShrek: oi, apparently it's rebooting before stage 1.5
[05:44] <Dialntone> thanks m8
[05:44] <Dialntone> ur a genious
[05:44] <Dialntone> like me
[05:44] <rouben> no problem
[05:44] <MasterShrek> Sweeper, hmm, maybe not seeing your partitions?
[05:44] <greencookie> MasterShrek: thanks. Can i use higher resolution?
[05:44] <tonsofpcs> I found an old "all2iso" package for beos that includes uif2iso, I assume there's either source or a linux build, but I can't find the origin
[05:44] <Sweeper> MasterShrek: on a default install? :/
[05:45] <MasterShrek> greencookie, you shuld be able to set that when you reconfigure xorg, try that same command except leave out the -phigh
[05:45] <greencookie> ok thanks
[05:45] <MasterShrek> Sweeper, i woudlnt think so
[05:45] <Sweeper> I'll tell her to reinstall and use all defaults....
[05:45] <Les_Caesars> The fancy compiz effects don't work for me after I installed 7.10 RC. Should I expect this, or is it abnormal behavior?
[05:45] <Sweeper> silly british chicks using loonix
[05:46] <Les_Caesars> is there a way I can test my 3D acceleration?
[05:46] <Sweeper> Les_Caesars: glxgears
[05:46] <MasterShrek> wizo, i only have two lines: auto lo   and    iface lo inet loopback
[05:46] <Les_Caesars> thanks Sweeper
[05:46] <wizo> MasterShrek :O
[05:46] <MasterShrek> Les_Caesars, you need to install drivers for your vid card
[05:46] <err-or> did i disconnect?
[05:46] <wizo> MasterShrek, nothing about dhcp or whatever?
[05:47] <Les_Caesars> MasterShrek: Ubuntu 7.04 already figured them out for me when I isntalled. Why wouldn't 7.10?
[05:47] <MasterShrek> nothign for me wizo, my wired will do it automatically, my wireless i set up on the command line
[05:47] <MasterShrek> Les_Caesars, not sure...7.10 is still beta tho u gotta rememebr that
[05:47] <MasterShrek> err-or, your still here
[05:47] <Les_Caesars> glxgears runs just fine btw. Just tested. Sounds like a config problem
[05:47] <err-or> was my name always err-or?
[05:47] <err-or> i was dialntone,
[05:48] <err-or> noooo, now everyone in the house is mad at me....
[05:48] <Les_Caesars> 1600 fps
[05:48] <MasterShrek> err-or, no, Dialntone is stil here, so u musta got d'ced
[05:48] <Zombine> Anyone know where I can find an Xclient script?
[05:48] <MasterShrek> Les_Caesars, thats good
[05:48] <MasterShrek> Zombine, for what?
[05:48] <Les_Caesars> MasterShrek: So then, how do I jump from glxgears to compiz?
[05:48] <Zombine> 1600 Frames Per Second?  With what?
[05:48] <Les_Caesars> Zombine: glxgears
[05:48] <MasterShrek> Les_Caesars, not really sure, im bad with compiz, borked many installs of it lol
[05:48] <Zombine> MasterShrek: For Fluxbox window manager?
[05:49] <MasterShrek> Zombine, what would you liek to do with it?
[05:49] <Zombine> MasterShrek: nm, I know where it is already :D
[05:49] <nickrud> Les_Caesars: what kind of video card?
[05:49] <adante> hi, is anybody able to run emacs?
[05:49] <adante> i installed the package emacs21, when i try to run emacs it just sits there at the command line
[05:49] <Les_Caesars> nickrud: ATI Radeon 9550. Kinda old but it hasn't antiqued yet
[05:49] <greencookie> MasterShrek: i got irssi working but how do i view the ubuntu channel? right now im using konversation
[05:49] <Les_Caesars> runs Doom3 and Oblivion well
[05:49] <Zombine> MasterShrek: gonna permanently disable this damn touchpad tapping
[05:49] <MasterShrek> greencookie, /join #ubuntu
[05:50] <horsman> hello
[05:50] <greencookie> yep i did that..it says '^x' to view the channel
[05:50] <MasterShrek> ctrl+x
[05:50] <MasterShrek> maybe...
[05:50] <nickrud> Les_Caesars: I'm not sure about that one, but I think all you have to do is enable gldestop under preferences
[05:50] <horsman> anyone here know how to set up a freenode channel?
[05:50] <Les_Caesars> nickrud: And where would I find that/
[05:51] <Gancho-RJ> Algum brasileiro pra me ajudar, por favor ??
[05:51] <Snuxoll> horsman: /join your channel
[05:51] <nickrud> Les_Caesars: ah, ok. games work. system->preferences->gldesktop. if that works, ok. otherwise, you'll have a few steps
[05:51] <scguy318> !br | Gancho-RJ
[05:51] <calc> horsman: then message chanserv to set up stuff
[05:51] <horsman> ok
[05:51] <gregorovius> Gancho-RJ, go to #ubuntu-br
[05:51] <greencookie> MasterShrek: i press ctrl x but i dont see #ubuntu channel talk
[05:51] <tonsofpcs> found one on bebits with source, trying it
[05:51] <Les_Caesars> nickrud: lol. gldesktop isn't there. But I'll try it in the console
[05:51] <Gancho-RJ> Obrigado
[05:51] <greencoo1ie> hey
[05:52] <gregorovius> anybody having complete and random lockups with gutsy's latest kernel?
[05:52] <Gancho-RJ> !br
[05:52] <nickrud> Les_Caesars: you running gutsy, right (what's three days)
[05:52] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:52] <scguy318> !gutsy | gregorovius
[05:52] <ubotu> gregorovius: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[05:52] <Gancho-RJ> !br
[05:52] <greencoo1ie> MasterShrek: I got in!!
[05:52] <MasterShrek> woot
[05:52] <Les_Caesars> nickrud: yeah. My previous install took a crap thanks to a mishandling of the HD. So I'm on 7.10 beta atm
[05:52] <Pseudoryx> 
[05:52] <gregorovius> yes scguy318, I know i'm running gutsy....
[05:52] <nickrud> Les_Caesars: change to #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <greencoo1ie> MasterShrek: this is awesome. Thanks. so how do I view member list now?:) lol
[05:52] <wizo> MasterShrek, weird, i get "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" if i just have those 2 lines that you showed me
[05:52] <MasterShrek> gregorovius, im using a custom kernel, 2.6.23.1 :)
[05:52] <Pseudoryx>  Does anyone know how to enable UTF8 Unicode at text mode (I
[05:53] <Pseudoryx>  i'm using Server edition
[05:53] <MasterShrek> no idea greencoo1ie, its probably just a common irc command, and i dont know it lol
[05:53] <greencoo1ie> Rofl..all good man..
[05:53] <scguy318> gregorovius: thus you should ask in #ubuntu+1 I believe
[05:53] <MasterShrek> wizo, weird, its probably nothing to do with that file then
[05:53] <greencoo1ie> I just have this small thing it says [2:#ubuntu(+Lcfnt #ubuntu-unregged)]  at the bottom in blue.. should I be concerned?
[05:54] <gregorovius> scguy318, oh, you're right, thanks
[05:54] <greencoo1ie> And MasterShrek any way to turn off the "quit" and "join" messages?
[05:54] <greencoo1ie> !irssi
[05:54] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[05:54] <wizo> MasterShrek, alright, thanks anyway, i'll try it some other time :)
[05:54] <Pseudoryx>  Hi everyone, i have problem with starting X server with Nvidia driver
[05:55] <Pseudoryx>  Can someone help out?
[05:55] <MasterShrek> greencoo1ie, i dont know, i dont use irssi
[05:55] <adante> greencoo1ie: there are some good introductory guides on the irssi website i think, i found them very useful for getting acquainted
[05:55] <greencoo1ie> thanks adante.
[05:55] <greencoo1ie> !irssi
[05:55] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[05:55] <MasterShrek> wizo, can u grab a dhcp address if you do it manually?
[05:55] <riotkittie> greencoo1ie: no. you should not be concerned about that.
[05:55] <Gancho-RJ> Alguem poderia me ajudar com uma duvida? Instalei o Ubuntu 7.04 Server e o Gnome, pois bem, nao consigo usar minha internet em modo grafico ou seja no Gnome, mas no terminal, consigo baixar todas as atualizacoes...? O que posso estar fazendo errado ?
[05:55] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, what card do u have?
[05:55] <gabilan> hi people. i u doin
[05:55] <MasterShrek> !es
[05:56] <gabilan> can u help me it just a commun problem i guess about compiz-fusion
[05:56] <MasterShrek> !es
[05:56] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: I have Gefore 7600,
[05:56] <wizo> MasterShrek, how can i do that :S
[05:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:56] <riotkittie> 2: is the window number. the rest is the channel that youe in, and the channel's modes
[05:56] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, what driver did u install?
[05:56] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: everything installed alright (Nvidia-glx,etc...)
[05:56] <greencoo1ie> I think i like Konversation better than irssi:)
[05:56] <greencoo1ie> hehe
[05:56] <scguy318> !br | Gancho-RJ
[05:56] <ubotu> Gancho-RJ: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:56] <riotkittie> s/youe/you're
[05:56] <greencoo1ie> I cant use terminal while irssi is running
[05:56] <gabilan> when i wanna start compiz, (compiz --replace or wth emblade) it gave me this: /usr/bin/compiz.real: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/compiz/libdecoration.so: undefined symbol: decor_apply_gravity
[05:56] <MasterShrek> wizo, sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient3 eth0
[05:56] <gabilan> what the hell..
[05:56] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: but when I use "startx" it said some problem with loading nvidia module
[05:56] <greencoo1ie> is there a way to swtich to terminal riotkittie
[05:57] <riotkittie> greencoo1ie: you can open another tab, or CTRL + Z to send irssi to the background
[05:57] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, try using the nvidia driver from nvidia.com maybe
[05:57] <silent> ........ I've been playing music using my mouse to control, assuming my laptop media buttons wouldn't work.... so I just tried them.... and they work... I almost shed a tear
[05:57] <buzz-cp> Does anyone know what file contains the user picture reference in gnome/ubuntu?
[05:57] <riotkittie> or you can run it in screen. which is overkill, unless you're in a TTY.
[05:57] <MasterShrek> greencoo1ie, ctrl+alt+f2
[05:57] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: I'm using Non Free nvidia from Ubuntu Respo
[05:57] <adante> greencoo1ie: check the http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi
[05:57] <greencoo1ie> adante lifesaver
[05:57] <greencoo1ie> MasterShrek: thanks
[05:57] <buzz-cp> i.e. at the ubuntu login, when there is a picture for a user---what file references this picture?
[05:57] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: I'd be appreacited if you can check out my xorg_log error
[05:58] <gabilan> does anyone knows what going on
[05:58] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, can you pastebin it for me?
[05:58] <gabilan> with my compiz-
[05:58] <greencoo1ie> !pastebin
[05:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:58] <gabilan> it a fuckin error
[05:58] <riotkittie> gabilan: #ubuntu-effects
[05:58] <ThePub> Could someone refresh my memory, please.  There's a commandline tool you can use from bash scripts for poping up gtk widgets, what's the name of it?  ^_^
[05:58] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: I could not since I dont have firefox. Running on Text mode
[05:58] <greencoo1ie> anyone know how I can access web from terminal?
[05:58] <greencoo1ie> like websites?
[05:58] <scguy318> greencoo1ie: lynx
[05:58] <bullgard4> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports: "Crashes of userspace applications should be detected automatically so the user gets an easy to use frontend for adding information to the problem report and is offered to send the report to our database." Are there other applications yet besides 'userspace applications'?
[05:58] <greencoo1ie> !lynx
[05:58] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[05:59] <buzz-cp> Anyone know the filename that says what picture is used at the login screen?
[05:59] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, paste the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"
[05:59] <greencoo1ie> sudo apt-get install lynx
[05:59] <scguy318> greencoo1ie: thats it
[05:59] <greencoo1ie> sry my bad
[05:59] <buzz-cp> Anyone know the filename that says what picture is used at the login screen?
[05:59] <MasterShrek> !repeat | buzz-cp
[05:59] <ubotu> buzz-cp: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:59] <ArtVandalae> buzz-cp: you can ocnfigure it in GNOME, but I'm assuming it would be in a gdm config file, or maybe even gconf
[06:00] <ArtVandalae> *configure
[06:00] <Byro1> ***nel
[06:00] <cupojava> hi all..
[06:00] <sapphy76> Hi all
[06:00] <buzz-cp> Thanks Art
[06:00] <nalioth> sapphy76: first off, is the program you are trying to compile available in the official Ubuntu software repos?
[06:00] <dylix> http://plutonic.mine.nu/pictures.aspx?albummode=Page&albumpath=%2falbums%2f2007%2f09_september%2fIMG_3343.JPG
[06:00] <buzz-cp> also, thanks MasterShrek
[06:00] <cupojava> did anyone try to upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[06:00] <MasterShrek> i did cupojava, why?
[06:00] <g0dd3ss> hai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??
[06:01] <cupojava> I am getting an error
[06:01] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: (EE) NVIDIA(0): fail to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[06:01] <greencoo1ie> Dude lol! command line is fun but complicated. I had to tab a thousand times to search google. :)
[06:01] <cupojava> about some file "Packages.gz" not being found
[06:01] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: (EE) NVIDIA(0): ***aborting***
[06:01] <jimmacdonald> ok so I am not the only one have nvidia problems?
[06:01] <nalioth> cupojava: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[06:01] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, does: lsmod | grep nvidia    give you any output, i dont need the output just to know if it shows anything
[06:01] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: (EE) screenfound but not have usable configuration
[06:02] <sapphy76> /nalioth its an webcam driver
[06:02] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, feisty?
[06:02] <greencoo1ie> quit
[06:02] <MasterShrek> jimmacdonald, alot of people are today for some reason
[06:02] <sapphy76> I dont remember theese irc sommands
[06:02] <buzz-cp> jimmacdonald:  Google ENVY / ubuntu     this solved all nvidia driver / max resolution problem
[06:02] <nalioth> sapphy76: have you tried plugging your webcam in and seeing if it works?
[06:02] <MasterShrek> ick no
[06:02] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: lsmod | grep nvidia does not give me any output
[06:02] <MasterShrek> DO NOT INSTALL ENVY
[06:02] <MasterShrek> !envy
[06:02] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:02] <cupojava> I was wondering if anyone else saw that.. or if the ubuntu servers are temporarily down
[06:03] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, are u on feisty or gutsy?
[06:03] <greencookie_> I think ill stick with konversation for now
[06:03] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: Gutsy
[06:03] <sapphy76> well, I have to install the driver manually, but i need root permission in terminal
[06:03] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, what kernel?
[06:03] <MasterShrek> uname -r
[06:03] <greencookie_> Guys why can't I play simple games in ubuntu. They run too slow. Choppy.
[06:03] <buzz-cp> OK let's be dogmatic
[06:03] <MasterShrek> sapphy76, use sudo before you put the command
[06:03] <jimmacdonald> problem is the farthest I can get is to the KDM login... if I attempt to login it kicks me right back to kdm.
[06:03] <sapphy76> k
[06:03] <sapphy76> thanks
[06:04] <MasterShrek> jimmacdonald, have you ever got past that?
[06:04] <Scunizi> jimmacdonald, try #kubuntu
[06:04] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: something start with 2.6 ... end with 14
[06:04] <jimmacdonald> yes before the updates last night.
[06:04] <cupojava> what kind of games are you trying to play greencookie?
[06:04] <buzz-cp> What evidence is there that the script breaks a machine?
[06:04] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, try rebooting and when grub comes up, pick the 3rd option and try again
[06:04] <jimmacdonald> Scunizi... I get the same indications when trying to run gnome
[06:04] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: you meant the Recovery Mode?
[06:05] <greencookie_> Um i had one that had tux skiing down a hill or something..
[06:05] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, no, the second kernel option that is not recovery mode
[06:05] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, there should be one in there if ur using 14
[06:05] <Scunizi> jimmacdonald, get to a terminal wit ctrl+alt+f2, log in and sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  .. that might fix it by catching another update to fix the last one.
[06:05] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: ok, i'll give it a try
[06:05] <drewby> hrrm
[06:05] <ArtVandalae> greencookie_: you don't have the proper drivers installed
[06:05] <MasterShrek> greencookie, games are overrated =P
[06:05] <greencookie_> and how do i kick my evil twin greencookie out so I can be myself?
[06:05] <ArtVandalae> greencookie_: the choppiness in tux racer is because it needs 3d
[06:05] <greencookie_> MasterShrek: WoW player here ;)
[06:05] <MasterShrek> greencookie_, youll just have to wait
[06:06] <greencookie_> aw.
[06:06] <greencookie_> *tries to snipe greencookie
[06:06] <MasterShrek> greencookie_, WoW on wine
[06:06] <MasterShrek> i tried pinging him greencookie_
[06:06] <sapphy76> how do I vlear the terminal screen (like cls in DOS)
[06:06] <buzz-cp> !pastebin
[06:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <Scunizi> clear
[06:06] <MasterShrek> type clear
[06:06] <greencookie_> MasterShrek: before that I guess ill have to figure out how to enable 3d first:)
[06:06] <buzz-cp> !spew
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spew - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <greencookie_> clear
[06:06] <sapphy76> that easy? wow
[06:06] <MasterShrek> greencookie, what kind of gfx card?
[06:06] <cupojava> getting this error: "ailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[06:06] <sapphy76> feelig dumb I am
[06:07] <MasterShrek> cupojava, interesting, did u lose gzip?
[06:07] <greencookie_> I got some kind of ATI card. I dunno which..but I know its ATI shows it on lspci
[06:07] <rouben> cupojava: running out of space by any chance? check with df -h
[06:07] <Scunizi> sapphy76, the light will shine upon you in time!
[06:07] <g0dd3ss> hai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??
[06:07] <sapphy76> thanks
[06:07] <Scunizi> :)
[06:07] <rouben> cupojava: if so, try apt-get clean
[06:08] <MasterShrek> oh yea, i just tried helping you with that greencookie_ lol, youll need to figure out how to install drivers for it, maybe system>administration>restricted drivers
[06:08] <sapphy76> Im a beginner in linux, but have many years experience with dos and windows
[06:08] <sapphy76> I like linux so far
[06:08] <greencookie_> yeah MasterShrek when I enable that, I gotta do the whole dpkg reconfigure thing cuz x hangs up.
[06:08] <MasterShrek> oh yea...
[06:08] <MasterShrek> hmm
[06:08] <Scunizi> sapphy76, I was the same until last year.. now I run win2kpro in a VM just for work stuff that requires IE6
[06:08] <greencookie_> Is there a way I can access this chatroom from firefox?
[06:08] <MasterShrek> sorry greencookie_, i got short term memory loss, probably from green brownies lol
[06:09] <ArtVandalae> greencookie_: with chatzilla
[06:09] <MasterShrek> greencookie_, there is a java freenode client somewhere
[06:09] <cupojava> well.. there is about 900 megs still available.. so it shouldnt be the space problem..
[06:09] <greencookie_> chatzilla! voila!
[06:09] <greencookie_> thanks ArtVandalae.
[06:09] <cupojava> and I can still see gzip
[06:09] <cupojava> in my path
[06:09] <sapphy76> I have a xp partition for some gaming
[06:09] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[06:09] <Neatchee> sapphy76: as someone who came from Windows not 2 years ago, feel free to ask any questions you have.  Everyone here is plenty friendly and willing to help :)
[06:10] <Scunizi> sapphy76, ditto
[06:10] <Cpudan80> I've got a problem with flash in Ubuntu x86_64
[06:10] <sapphy76> all I need is to get my webcam running
[06:10] <ksivaji>  i know user name password of system with ip 59.92.68.42 ,still i cant login because telnet and ssh says connection timedout ,but i can ping 59.92.98.42 works
[06:10] <greencookie> sapphy76: which webcam?
[06:10] <MasterShrek> !nspluginwrapper | Cpudan80
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <sapphy76> qc pro 5000
[06:10] <MasterShrek> !flash64
[06:10] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:10] <Cpudan80> I followed the directions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[06:10] <Neatchee> sapphy76: Ooo, webcams are a pain :(
[06:10] <Scunizi> sapphy76, I found that mine works when I boot with it plugged in.. different model though.. creative.
[06:10] <sapphy76> I figured that out
[06:11] <nickrud> Scunizi: exactly which one, I'm in the market
[06:11] <sapphy76> the pro 400 cam worked a bit
[06:11] <sapphy76> gave it avay to my mom
[06:11] <Cpudan80> Well at any rate - I followed those steps
[06:11] <sapphy76> dooh
[06:11] <Cpudan80> But every time I restart the browser - I lose flash support
[06:11] <Scunizi> nickrud, Creative live! cam video IM  .. fry's # 5063185 $22.99
[06:12] <cupojava> I am experiencing some lag
[06:12] <greencookie> Yay! chat zilla!
[06:12] <greencookie> But I was hoping it would be integrated inside firefox. this is no different from Konversation:(
[06:12] <greencookie> Hello?!
[06:13] <dylix> what
[06:13] <Scunizi> greencookie, konversation has some nice features that I miss when using xchat..
[06:13] <cupojava> sorry.. the server lagged out.. didnt see any responses after my response
[06:13] <feld> gutsy discussion in here or is there a dedicated channel for that?
[06:13] <greencookie> And it does not highlight a sentence when it has my name on it:( scumbag chatzilla..
[06:13] <Scunizi> feld #ubuntu+1
[06:13] <sapphy76> any norwegians here? (novice users)
[06:13] <cube> #ubuntu+1 for gutsy
[06:13] <homerj_> more of an nvidia question: anyone have a laptop with an nvidia card in it? the slowdown threshold in nvidia-settings is set to 0c
[06:13] <feld> Scunizi: cool
[06:13] <Neatchee> sapphy76: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3743  << Try that for getting your quickcam to work
[06:14] <Neatchee> Please read the whole page first, as it details the whole process, and you may need to adapt some things if it's been updated since
[06:15] <greencookie> Just curious
[06:15] <greencookie> Is everyone using gnome?
[06:15] <g0dd3ss> no
[06:15] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: what are you using?
[06:16] <g0dd3ss> kde today
[06:16] <sapphy76> thanks Neatchee
[06:16] <nickrud> Scunizi: frys it is this weekend, thanks
[06:16] <Scunizi> np
[06:16] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: ok.
[06:16] <greencookie> How bout konversation? everyone use that?
[06:16] <hdevalence> If I wante dto display line 60 of file foobar, what program would I use?
[06:16] <nickrud> even the right price, wow
[06:17] <L0GAN> hello, where can I get blender 2.45 for ubuntu?
[06:17] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, i r using xchat:D
[06:17] <greencookie> !xchat
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <Scunizi> nickrud, I have an old ViCam that became the 3comm camera that is now used by a security company.. Great camera, interchangable lenses (glass) and less than 1 lux.. unfortunatly doesn't work on anything linux.. :(
[06:17] <L0GAN> i downloaded one but it said some dependancy error
[06:17] <hdevalence> greencookie: konversation is nice if you use KDE. otherwise I'd say try xchat
[06:17] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: Ok. Me Chatzilla. :)
[06:17] <Cpudan80> Ok so I followed the directions for flash
[06:17] <Cpudan80> But again, it only works once
[06:17] <Veinor> I have a microsoft wireless notebook optical mouse 3000, and whenever I click on the middle mouse button, it pastes the text from the cilpboard.
[06:17] <Cpudan80> If I close/reopen browser - it stops working
[06:17] <sapphy76> I have another annoying problem, cant get a higher resoulution than 1024x768... using an Geforce fx5600
[06:17] <greencookie> hdevalence: how do i install xchat? sudo apt-get install xchat?
[06:18] <SeveredCross> Veinor: That's how Linux works. ;)
[06:18] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, ooo ook, never used that, is it good
[06:18] <samma> hello, If I'm moving all of my music I bought on iTunes over to ubuntu, do I have to burn all of the songs to a CD to remove the DRM?
[06:18] <nickrud> Scunizi: I've avoided webcams for that very reason, I'm glad I peeked in just now
[06:18] <Scunizi> yep
[06:18] <hdevalence> greencookie: yeah
[06:18] <Veinor> SeveredCross: is there any way to change it so that when I do it in, say, firefox, I can move the mouse to scroll?
[06:18] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: try it. its nice. I like the dark color schemes. after all its all about personalization ;)
[06:18] <Scunizi> samma, that might work
[06:18] <SeveredCross> Veinor: You can still move the mouse to scroll...Just don't push the button down.
[06:18] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, lol i have to make everything purple :X
[06:18] <SeveredCross> samma: Probably not, look up FairUseQT or something like it, there's a Java app that will decrypt your songs.
[06:19] <sapphy76> I just used an NTFS config tool, I didnt have to move the music from anywhere
[06:19] <Veinor> SeveredCross: I know my old mouse actually registered the middle button as a third button, not as paste.
[06:19] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: Purple? lol. Better than pink;)
[06:19] <Veinor> samma: he means qtfairuse
[06:19] <samma> Mkay, thanks, you all.
[06:19] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, lol for sure 8-] 
[06:19] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: you can make it purple in chatzill too i guess:)
[06:19] <Scunizi> nickrud, the creative is ok.. color is passable but not great, clarity.. well .. it's sorta what I ecpected after the Vicam which was tack sharp.
[06:19] <fryguy> I'm having some problems with torrent download speeds (not upload) in utorrent, using various clients.  I've compared the results in reasonable way (private trackers, downloading same torrent on different clients), and I can't get the download speed anywhere close to utorrent on windows (utorrent on windows maxes out my connection, 750+ kb/s, while ubuntu is doing 50kb/s).  Is there some sort of network tuning I need to know about?  I'm using the same port n
[06:19] <L0GAN> i get error: dependency is not satisfiable: lib52-0.7.4
[06:19] <greencookie> but just havent tried it yet.
[06:20] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: how long have you been using ubuntu?
[06:20] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, a couple of years, in between windows, but still a noob
[06:20] <zaatar_> !svn
[06:20] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[06:20] <zaatar_> you guys know of a "good" walkthrough of setting up svn the right way?
[06:20] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, but I'm ready to get rid of windoze now :D what bout u?
[06:20] <zaatar_> i don't wanna f around this time...
[06:20] <Veinor> SeveredCross: so is there any way to change linux to interpret the middle button as an actual button?
[06:21] <SeveredCross> It does?
[06:21] <nickrud> Scunizi: one that works is enough for now, especially at the price. I can use it in baseball later without any tears :)
[06:21] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: I installed ubuntu a couple of days ago. First timer in linux so pretty new.
[06:21] <SeveredCross> Scroll up and down are also separate buttons.
[06:21] <SeveredCross> Not really sure what exactly your problem is...
[06:21] <Cpudan80> Anyone have any ideas?
[06:21] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: I'd love to get rid of windoze but I got my game there:( WoW:)
[06:21] <Cpudan80> Flash works for one go - but not for multiple ones?
[06:21] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: I'm loving the whole linux experience.
[06:21] <Veinor> SeveredCross: With my old mouse, I could press in with the middle button once and then just move the physical mouse around without using the middle button at all.
[06:21] <SeveredCross> Scrolling the wheel up registers a button action, clicking it down registers a different button action, and scrolling the wheel down registers a third action.
[06:21] <SeveredCross> Oh. Don't know that there's a way to do that.
[06:21] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, lol 8-} kool. wont it run in wine or sdomethin
[06:21] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: what music player do u use?:)
[06:22] <MasterShrek> Cpudan80, 64 bit?
[06:22] <L0GAN> why is blender not available in add/remove?
[06:22] <SeveredCross> What's the problem with just scrolling the wheel down?
[06:22] <Veinor> It's slow.
[06:22] <Cpudan80> MasterShrek: Yeah -- I followed those steps you sent me before
[06:22] <MasterShrek> L0GAN, sudo apt-get install blender ?
[06:22] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: well for that I have to enable 3d acceleration and frankly speaking I dont like terminals right now:0
[06:22] <astro76> Veinor, it was on Linux you could do that?
[06:22] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, xmms or amarok, quod libet
[06:22] <Veinor> astro76: yeah.
[06:22] <Cpudan80> MasterShrek: If I run the npwrapper -i thing before every startup it would work
[06:22] <MasterShrek> Cpudan80, i dont know, it used to do that for me before too, but ever since i upgraded to gutsy it doesnt anymore
[06:22] <Veinor> if I could change the amount each click of the wheel scrolls, I'd be happy.
[06:22] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: so i'm procrastinating installing the video driver for now.
[06:23] <astro76> Veinor, you can, install imwheel and adjust it's config
[06:23] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: Amarok! to be frank this is one of the features that made me wanna bury windoze.
[06:23] <MasterShrek> Cpudan80, i jsut made a bash script and put it in /usr/bin called flash-plug or something so i could load it right away if i needed flash
[06:23] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: I'm in love with Amarok:)
[06:23] <cube> there is an offtopic chat
[06:23] <Cpudan80> MasterShrek: Yeah - I guess I could just bump up to the next version....
[06:23] <L0GAN> MasterShrek: ill try that but will it get the latest version available?
[06:23] <jimmacdonald> alright I am screwed... I cannot get this working after an update.
[06:23] <Cpudan80> How do you upgrade btw?
[06:23] <Cpudan80> I'm new to Ubuntu
[06:24] <g0dd3ss> o.O orly
[06:24] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: xmms doesn't quite cut it for me:)
[06:24] <Cpudan80> !upgrade | Cpudan80
[06:24] <MasterShrek> Cpudan80, u might as well wait until thursday when gutsy is officially released
[06:24] <sn4keeyez> can i get help for xubuntu in this room?
[06:24] <SeveredCross> Veinor: You can change that I believe.
[06:24] <SeveredCross> Mouse properties can change that.
[06:24] <CITguy> /exti
[06:24] <cube> system-admin-update manager
[06:24] <CITguy> /exit
[06:24] <greencookie> sn4keeyez: #xubuntu
[06:24] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, what do u need help with?
[06:24] <friedtofu> hm. gutsy is officially released on thursday? the final version?
[06:24] <mnml> hi, i want to make ubuntu sign on to a remote ssh server everytime i start up the machine.Anyone know if I can do this?
[06:24] <L0GAN> cand find package blender it says
[06:24] <visof_> how can i add repositories for synaptic?
[06:24] <Veinor> friedtofu: yes.
[06:24] <MasterShrek> yes friedtofu
[06:24] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, yeah, but i kinda miss winamp, which is why i use xmms sometimes, but no media library, taht sucks, which is why i use amarok
[06:24] <Kudak> guys, what email server hotmail is using ?? pop or imap ???
[06:24] <sn4keeyez> i need help with connecting to my wireless router.
[06:24] <MasterShrek> visof_, system>administration>software sources
[06:24] <SeveredCross> Hum, maybe you can't, I thought you could.
[06:24] <friedtofu> Veinor MasterShrek : thanks, making sure after reading off distrowatch
[06:24] <greencookie> I was in #kubuntu for the past couple of days until someone pointed out that there did in fact exist a separate room for ubuntu:) yay!
[06:24] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, what kind of wireless card do you have?
[06:25] <SeveredCross> Kudak: Hotmail is IMAP I would think, but they may be using their own protocol.
[06:25] <L0GAN> blender is one of the biggest open source apps :)
[06:25] <mikubuntu> any idea what might have caused an old dell laptop with xubuntu on it to crash, after it was operating properly, and then fails to take a reinstall, among other things giving a grub 18 error?
[06:25] <sn4keeyez> it's a smc
[06:25] <sn4keeyez> my card sees my router but won't connect to it.
[06:25] <Kudak> SeveredCross: im configuring Evolution and i need to know what server type to choose from
[06:25] <Kudak> SeveredCross: how can i find out what server they use ?
[06:25] <SeveredCross> Probably IMAP.
[06:25] <astro76> Kudak, hotmail does not support either
[06:25] <sn4keeyez> I changed the channel on my card to the channel of my router.
[06:25] <cube> sn4ke have you had another device hooked up to your router before
[06:25] <sn4keeyez> but still no dice.
[06:25] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, interesting, using network manager? (i hate network manager, straight command line is better lol)
[06:25] <SeveredCross> You'll have to look it up on Hotmail pages.
[06:25] <Kudak> astro76: what should i choose then ?
[06:25] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: yeah no library. I need library for my collection too:)
[06:25] <SeveredCross> How can you hate NetworkManager?
[06:25] <sn4keeyez> actually i used command line?
[06:26] <intarwebz> hey this is probably a stupid question but i dont' have a distro cd  handy to check it for myself...when you install ubuntu and you're going thru the gui installer, does it give you the option to install kde?
[06:26] <SeveredCross> WPA2 through commandline is a pain in the rear end.
[06:26] <g0dd3ss> SeveredCross, I do 8-} wicd pwnz
[06:26] <astro76> Kudak, their website, because that's the only way to access it
[06:26] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, do u need a wep key or anything?
[06:26] <kris> Hi. Is the name of the default sound device in Ubuntu /dev/dsp?
[06:26] <Kudak> astro76: alright thx
[06:26] <sn4keeyez> but i'm a total noob to linux...so i think it is something minor
[06:26] <sn4keeyez> i opened up my router
[06:26] <greencookie> intarwebz:  you can install kde later on.
[06:26] <Pumpitup> intarwebz> kubuntu
[06:26] <sn4keeyez> no wep or wap
[06:26] <greencookie> sn4keeyez: join the group:)
[06:26] <cube> so you activated wifi on your internet connection
[06:26] <nickrud> the lastest incarnation of networkmanager, anyway. I have a static definition in interfaces, and it uses it if I'm plugged in at work. Wireless automatically at home
[06:26] <friedtofu> question: is there any way to change that keyring thing? so i dont have to manually enter the password everytime i log into Ubuntu to go online via USB wifi adapter?
[06:26] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, i always do this: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <essid>    then sudo dhclient3 eth1
[06:26] <intarwebz> right i know you *can* install kde later or kubuntu but is it an option in an ordinary ubuntu install?
[06:26] <sn4keeyez> yeah i am surfing on a windows computer right now with it...
[06:26] <riotkittie> its easy to hate nework manager if you have a chipset it does not play nice with. or if you have witnessed it's wonkiness in gutsy tribes first hand :P
[06:26] <cube> did it have a wap key?
[06:27] <greencookie> MasterShrek: what does that do?
[06:27] <Veinor> so how do I use imwheel?
[06:27] <astro76> intarwebz, there is a kubuntu install cd
[06:27] <fryguy> intarwebz: ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde
[06:27] <MasterShrek> greencookie, its for wifi
[06:27] <L0GAN> hmm blender available only in the "Software restricted by copyright or legal issues". thats weird for a GNU app
[06:27] <greencookie> intarwebz: not sure about that buddy
[06:27] <visof_> what is the meaning od APT line?
[06:27] <Kudak> astro76: i goggled it and a few POP3 findings showed up, is it possible they use POP3 ?
[06:27] <sn4keeyez> let me try that master
[06:27] <intarwebz> sn4keeyez:  you just installed, were you offered kde?
[06:27] <visof_> i couldn t add any repositories
[06:27] <sn4keeyez> ummm
[06:27] <MasterShrek> intarwebz, no, u just have to install kubuntu-desktop afterwards
[06:27] <greencookie> MasterShrek: Do you know how to fix my wifi prob?:) i cant use WPA on my wireless
[06:27] <intarwebz> or just GNOME
[06:27] <astro76> Kudak, I think people have written software to interface with the website and fake a pop3 server, is that what you've found?
[06:28] <MasterShrek> !wpa
[06:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:28] <sn4keeyez> i think xubuntu uses xfce
[06:28] <intarwebz> ok thx ppls
[06:28] <MasterShrek> yes sn4keeyez it does
[06:28] <intarwebz> xubuntu is da bomb
[06:28] <Kudak> astro76: no, i found a guide on how to configure outlook, and i guessed it didnt matter what kind of clients i use
[06:28] <greencookie> Havent tried xubuntu intarwebz .
[06:28] <MasterShrek> kubuntu is better :) kde apps are unmatchable
[06:28] <Kudak> astro76: on the outlook guide it says to choose pop3 for hotmail, so i guess same for evolution, ami right ?
[06:28] <greencookie> I love Gnome!
[06:28] <greencookie> :)
[06:28] <kris> Hi. Is the name of the default sound device in Ubuntu /dev/dsp?
[06:28] <MasterShrek> Kudak, yes
[06:28] <MasterShrek> i think so kris
[06:29] <Kudak> MasterShrek: alright thx. :P
[06:29] <L0GAN> hmm maybe I ask a linux user to do the export for me
[06:29] <sn4keeyez> i wanted to try out linux so i researched distro for an old pentium 2 thinkpad that i had laying around
[06:29] <greencookie> Plus it doesnt matter does it cuz all apps run on all different window managers if i'm not mistaken.
[06:29] <Pumpitup> having both desktop installed gnome and kde wont slow anything now would it
[06:29] <gcarrillo> hey all has anybody found the automounter to be unstable??
[06:29] <sn4keeyez> i found xubuntu and installed it...
[06:29] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, did u try that?
[06:29] <astro76> Kudak, with hotmail and yahoo you only get pop3 with paid account, gmail you get it for free :D
[06:29] <intarwebz> haha what a buzzkill when someone blurts out "i love gnome"
[06:29] <astro76> Kudak, and yeah that was an Outlook only thing
[06:29] <MasterShrek> intarwebz, tru.dat
[06:29] <intarwebz> ;) j/k i love bash so who am i
[06:30] <sn4keeyez> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid get off my network
[06:30] <MasterShrek> tru.dat.2
[06:30] <MasterShrek> =P
[06:30] <greencookie> whats wrong with gnome:)?
[06:30] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, you need to put quotes around the essid
[06:30] <greencookie> its simple :)
[06:30] <intarwebz> greencookie: its reputation
[06:30] <PurpZeY> Hey all, I am looking to set a global keyboard short-cut and the guide I read suggested that I use gconf under metacity options...But I am running compiz-fusion, which is technically my windows manager, am I still using the metacity area of gconf for this?
[06:30] <sn4keeyez> oops, typed on the wrong computer.
[06:30] <cube> green have you heard of offtopic
[06:30] <greencookie> eh.. intarwebz why would that be? is gnome for beginners?
[06:30] <kris> I am trying to get gtk-recordMyDesktop to capture sound, but to no avail. Similar problems with xvidcap, too. Anyone able to offer any help?
[06:30] <greencookie> !offtopic |cube
[06:30] <ubotu> cube: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:30] <greencookie> lol
[06:30] <intarwebz> greencookie: ya
[06:31] <intarwebz> ubotu - that's cute
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about that's cute - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <greencookie> ah.. suitable for me. I just installed linux a week ago:)
[06:31] <MasterShrek> gnome is for nazis ---Linus
[06:31] <intarwebz> stfu
[06:31] <cube> i like gnome
[06:31] <intarwebz> greencookie: gotcha
[06:31] <intarwebz> yeah, linus disrespects gnome openly
[06:31] <astro76> !stfu | intarwebz
[06:31] <ubotu> intarwebz: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:31] <greencookie> lol@Mastershrek is that true?
[06:31] <intarwebz> oh my bad
[06:31] <riotkittie> desktop environment wars are for dummies --me
[06:31] <MasterShrek> my prof told me that
[06:32] <intarwebz> you can't even say rt*m?  how will our childrens learn?
[06:32] <cube> whats wrong with gnome?
[06:32] <jdong> greencookie: it's slgihtly paraphrased
[06:32] <greencookie> wts rt*fm?
[06:32] <EruditeHermit> hey, can anyone help me with renaming my ipod?
[06:32] <jdong> greencookie: but mostly true
[06:32] <sn4keeyez> ok thanks master
[06:32] <cupojava> Does anyone know if the D-Link USB wireless adapter works with Gutsy?
[06:32] <intarwebz> haha i'm in like bizarro irc world
[06:32] <kris> Hmm. Never heard the acronym jfgi before. Pardon my asking, but what's it mean?
[06:32] <greencookie> Now I feel bad for using Gnome:)
[06:32] <astro76> greencookie, read the fine manual ;)
[06:32] <jdong> kris: Just <explicative> Google It
[06:32] <cube> erudite does it not authenticate it when u try?
[06:32] <riotkittie> cupojava: there are a number of d-link usb wireless adapters, with a variety of details. give a girl some details.
[06:32] <kris> jdong: Thanks. :-)
[06:32] <greencookie> rofl astro76 neveer knew that one! lol.. thnx
[06:32] <riotkittie> errr with  a variety of chipsets
[06:32] <intarwebz> oh i thoguht it was just ForGet it
[06:32] <intarwebz> heh
[06:33] <riotkittie> cupojava: which model? which revision?
[06:33] <EruditeHermit> cube: I gave it to a friend and it got his name on it and I want it back to just ipod
[06:33] <greencookie> j*gi Lol.
[06:33] <cube> what happens when u try
[06:33] <sn4keeyez> hey master do i put " " around it or <>?
[06:33] <sn4keeyez> sorry i'm a total noob
[06:33] <greencookie> im on my way to earning a doctrate in internet slangs
[06:33] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, use 'get off my network'
[06:34] <MasterShrek> or whatever it was
[06:34] <bwidja28> help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:34] <astro76> sn4keeyez, <> pretty much always means substitute something for it without the <>
[06:34] <cube> if all else fails go into recovery mode and use vm to rename it
[06:34] <sn4keeyez> hahaha
[06:34] <cube> just go to the directory
[06:34] <intarwebz> greencookie: internets
[06:34] <sn4keeyez> i didn't know that..
[06:34] <greencookie> :)
[06:34] <EruditeHermit> cube: which directory?
[06:34] <cube> your desktop
[06:35] <cube> or where its mounted
[06:35] <greencookie> Anyone know of any graphical enhancements for Gnome?
[06:35] <intarwebz> compiz fusion
[06:35] <EruditeHermit> cube: which file on the ipod controls the name?
[06:36] <intarwebz> greencookie: did you install gutsy?
[06:36] <astro76> greencookie, yeah... gutsy with compiz-fusion
[06:36] <intarwebz> it should offer compiz .5 with it
[06:36] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[06:36] <greencookie> so i just do sudo apt-get install gutsy rite?
[06:36] <cube> what happens when u right click and try to rename?
[06:36] <intarwebz> um
[06:36] <MasterShrek> greencookie, no
[06:36] <intarwebz> no
[06:36] <EruditeHermit> cube: it doesn't have the rename option
[06:36] <MasterShrek> !update | greencookie
[06:37] <cube> hold on i will hook 1 up
[06:37] <EruditeHermit> cube: it is greyed out
[06:37] <MasterShrek> ubotu!!!
[06:37] <sn4keeyez> ok after i typed sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid 'get off my network' what's supposed to happen?
[06:37] <cube> k hold on
[06:37] <greencookie> lol
[06:37] <MasterShrek> !update | greencookie
[06:37] <ubotu> greencookie: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:37] <MasterShrek> ubotu was afk =P
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about was afk =p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <intarwebz> heh
[06:37] <greencookie> rofl. I think ubotu was busy with this AI girlfriend.
[06:37] <greencookie> his*
[06:37] <MasterShrek> shes hawt
[06:37] <intarwebz> Alice?
[06:38] <intarwebz> SmartBuddy
[06:38] <greencookie> !alice
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <MasterShrek> lies!
[06:38] <greencookie> !smartbuddy
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartbuddy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <greencookie> he's a smart one;)
[06:38] <MasterShrek> heh, dont mess with teh bot too much tho greencookie some ppl might get mad at u
[06:38] <rathel> How do I stop Totem for loading every time I put in a DVD?
[06:38] <err-or> !mkv
[06:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:38] <err-or> what the hell is mkv
[06:38] <greencookie> Oh! Sorry. Didn't know.
[06:39] <Paradoxx> Is there a command to see the users currently registered on the system?
[06:39] <intarwebz> w
[06:39] <Dialntone> why couldn't it be avi or mpg ... but why mkV
[06:39] <intarwebz> oh nm, that shows logged in
[06:39] <intarwebz> Paradoxx: check your passwd file
[06:39] <MasterShrek> Paradoxx, users
[06:39] <MasterShrek> oh registered...yea /etc/passwd
[06:39] <sn4keeyez> Master, my computer is stating no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[06:40] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, is your router set to only release a certain number of dhcp addresses?
[06:40] <Paradoxx> MasterShrek: I'm looking at it now....what in there?
[06:40] <sn4keeyez> umm i don't think so... let me look
[06:40] <intarwebz> Paradoxx: that's where your users are
[06:40] <intarwebz> ta-da
[06:40] <SuperQ> ding!
[06:40] <Paradoxx> oh, nevermind
[06:40] <Paradoxx> Thank you much
[06:40] <cube> erudite hold on
[06:40] <nickrud> Paradoxx: users with numbers above 999 are real people, mostly
[06:40] <sn4keeyez> actually it is...but it's set to 50
[06:40] <EruditeHermit> cube: ok
[06:40] <chetnick> do i have to remove beryl before i install compiz-fusion?
[06:41] <intarwebz> chetnick: maybe, compiz-fusion replaces beryl so it'd serve to reason
[06:41] <friedtofu> err-or what are you asking about mkv? :/
[06:42] <greencookie> erm, is there an offtopic discussion room?
[06:42] <astro76> !ot
[06:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:42] <greencookie> thanks astro76
[06:42] <Pie-rate> just tried KDE... it seems better than gnome, not better enough to relearn a bunch of stuff though. Why was gnome chosen as the default for Ubuntu?
[06:42] <friedtofu> err-or if you're still there, mkv is a container file like avi... ah well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska
[06:42] <cube> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259688&page=2
[06:43] <greencookie> bye im going to #offtopic
[06:43] <astro76> Pie-rate, there's not a million options
[06:43] <intarwebz> Pie-rate: simplicity
[06:43] <friedtofu> lol. i like gnome better >.>
[06:43] <gunashekar> Pie-rate , i thought so too initially
[06:43] <Veinor> I figured out how to get firefox to do what I want it to do.
[06:43] <cube> i couldn't rename my ipod either so i looked it up and someone on the forum posted a way
[06:43] <Veinor> edit->preferences->advanced and enable autoscroll
[06:43] <intarwebz> Pie-rate: gnome has corporate acceptance, too
[06:43] <Dialntone> huh
[06:43] <Dialntone> container file
[06:43] <Pumpitup> why does openoffice release upgrades every day...is it that buggy
[06:43] <Dialntone> can it be downsized :(
[06:44] <Veinor> Pumpitup: it's usually really minor bugs.
[06:44] <cube> what else is there besides gnome and kde?
[06:44] <chetnick> i have never used compiz fusion, is it better than beryl?
[06:44] <MasterShrek> !wm
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <Veinor> cube: xfce
[06:44] <Pie-rate> intarwebz: i see. corporate acceptance i can see, but the simplicity thing... not so sure, KDE seems to organize its menus pretty intuitively.
[06:44] <friedtofu> xfce ...
[06:44] <friedtofu> hm.. there are others
[06:44] <intarwebz> chetnick: yes, it replaces it
[06:44] <friedtofu> fluxbox
[06:44] <Veinor> chetnick: beryl is technically discontinued now
[06:44] <cube> and what xubuntu for?
[06:44] <Veinor> so... I guess.
[06:44] <EruditeHermit> cube: ok thanks I'll try that now
[06:44] <Dialntone> friedtofu,  .. mkv file..
[06:44] <intarwebz> Pie-rate: but it offers "too many" options
[06:44] <Veinor> cube: xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce
[06:44] <MasterShrek> cube, fluxbox, enlightenment, blackbox, theres tons of them
[06:44] <Pie-rate> cube: speed
[06:44] <chetnick> ok
[06:44] <Veinor> yeah.
[06:44] <intarwebz> friedtofu: is fluxbox better?
[06:44] <Veinor> xfce is minimal
[06:45] <cube> what does it not feature compared to gnome or feature
[06:45] <cube> so if its minimal what can't u run
[06:45] <friedtofu> intarwebz - i havent tried it, but it uses less memory than xfce... :/
[06:45] <Pie-rate> cube: it has xfce, which is a minimal window manager, its more meant for older systems
[06:45] <MasterShrek> Veinor, compared to gnome or kde yes, but fluxbox is much smaller
[06:45] <intarwebz> cube: the main differences are usually the native apps (k-whatever, g-whatever) and how it handles administrative settings
[06:45] <intarwebz> friedtofu: impressive and noted
[06:45] <cube> thanks
[06:45] <sn4keeyez> Mastershrek, can i pm you?
[06:45] <intarwebz> gnome has admin settings in diff places, kde has k control panel
[06:46] <cube> xubuntu... not for me
[06:46] <Dialntone> bah brb
[06:46] <cube> yeah i like both kde and gnome but gnome is just what i am used to so i use it
[06:46] <sn4keeyez> I used xubuntu b/c my laptop is an ancient relic of the 90's
[06:46] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, if your nick is regged, else just join #MasterShrek
[06:46] <astro76> intarwebz, there's actually a gnome control center you can enable in System > Preferences by editing the menu
[06:47] <cube> i will check that out astro
[06:47] <intarwebz> astro76: thx, i didn't know that
[06:47] <astro76> intarwebz, there's a bunch of goodies not enabled by default in the menus
[06:47] <EruditeHermit> cube: I get "cannot initialise drive"
[06:47] <rathel> hmm.. mplayer isn't playing the right chapter when I just do mplayer dvd:// How do I find the correct chapter? It works on most other dvd's.
[06:47] <jrsims> what's a good GUI text editor?
[06:47] <intarwebz> astro76: no doubt, but it's all about the defaults because when you're converting pagans from microshaft, you can only cover so much ground per session
[06:48] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[06:48] <greencookie> SciTe
[06:48] <greencookie> :)
[06:48] <astro76> intarwebz, indeed, the defaults were chosen for a reason
[06:48] <bwidja28> help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:48] <cube> hold on
[06:48] <astro76> jrsims, assuming you've tried gedit?
[06:48] <intarwebz> hey are any of you guys by chance hot chicks?
[06:49] <jrsims> astro76: I have not
[06:49] <astro76> jrsims, that's the standard gnome one
[06:49] <jrsims> k
[06:49] <astro76> jrsims, still does syntax highlighting and all that
[06:49] <jrsims> astro76: that's what I'm after
[06:49] <intarwebz> wrong room
[06:49] <bwidja28> help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:49] <astro76> jrsims, if that doesn't suit try kate
[06:49] <cube> well i can't rename my ipod because its read only if you go to computer-ipod and right click what does your says read only>
[06:49] <Pie-rate> astro76: why the hell is this thing not enabled by default?!?!? wow, it shouldn't even be in System -> Preferences, it should be in System
[06:49] <astro76> heh
[06:50] <cube> in properties -permission
[06:50] <EruditeHermit> cube: yes it says read only
[06:50] <astro76> Pie-rate, you could right click it and add to panel
[06:50] <Newbuntu2> is there a way to install ubuntu off a USB drive? my cd drive doesn't work well
[06:51] <cube> ok hold on
[06:51] <astro76> !install | Newbuntu2
[06:51] <ubotu> Newbuntu2: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[06:51] <gcarrillo> hey all
[06:51] <Pie-rate> astro76: i mean for new users.
[06:51] <gcarrillo> what do people mean when they talk about "upstream"?
[06:51] <mikebot> What does this error in LaTeX mean: ! Missing number, treated as zero.
[06:51] <Pie-rate> astro76: it should be at least shown in preferences, if not moved up a level to System
[06:51] <astro76> Pie-rate, yeah they've decided on the preferences menu rather than a control center
[06:51] <astro76> it's kind of redundant
[06:51] <bwidja28> anybody can help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:51] <astro76> they being Ubuntu
[06:52] <Extravert> whats the built in calculator in command line?
[06:52] <Extravert> its two letters
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> !info bc
[06:52] <ubotu> bc: The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-20ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 65 kB, installed size 188 kB
[06:52] <Extravert> thanks
[06:52] <bwidja28> anybody can help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:52] <jrsims> Ok, I'm looking for a GUI text editor with a sidebar that shows me my directory tree. Ideas?
[06:52] <Felosis> i am debating getting a dell anyone here personally use one? any problems? comments?
[06:53] <Irreducibilis> Felosis: Dells are okay.
[06:53] <Irreducibilis> We use them at school and they are fairly fast.
[06:53] <Irreducibilis> Even with the Pentium Ds in them
[06:53] <bwidja28> anybody can help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Felosis now a days - you can just about price new pc's by the pound. :)  Depends on what you are going ot do with it and your budget a great deal.
[06:53] <Felosis> Irreducibilis well i mean like the ones that are supposidly fully hardware supported from dell.com/ubuntu
[06:54] <JCarlos> alguma brasileira ai ?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Dell annoys me when they try to force contract/warrenty/extras down your throat.
[06:54] <Irreducibilis> Felosis: Ah... no clue there. I use an XPS laptop though, thats all I know about dells.
[06:54] <astro76> !br | JCarlos
[06:54] <ubotu> JCarlos: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:54] <gcarrillo> i usually buy dell for the things i dont build myself
[06:54] <gcarrillo> the service sucks
[06:54] <gcarrillo> but the prices are good
[06:54] <gcarrillo> and i like the hardware
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> I just happened to find a Gateway on Sale last month. :) cheaper then what i could of built my own.. but i still would of been better off building my own. even if  there was a bit more cost to it.
[06:55] <nickrud> jrsims: gedit with the plugins, enable the file browser side bar
[06:55] <Felosis> hmmm well its a laptop and i dont want to be bothered trying to part it
[06:55] <bwidja28> :(
[06:55] <gcarrillo> yeah
[06:55] <gcarrillo> i got a d830
[06:55] <Felosis> Dr_Willis yea i saw that too
[06:55] <gcarrillo> latitude
[06:56] <Irreducibilis> Hm, I wonder if I could build my own laptip
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> The Linux laptops i hear are nice. BUT dell often has identical windows laptops with extra 'deals' that make them more of a value.
[06:56] <gcarrillo> not really
[06:56] <Irreducibilis> laptop...
[06:56] <Felosis> Irreducibilis you can its just not cost effective
[06:56] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[06:57] <Irreducibilis> Felosis: Wouldn't it be cheaper to stick a Core 2 Extreme and 4GB ram and SLI and all that good stuff in a laptop chassis myself rather than pay alienware to do it for me?
[06:57] <EruditeHermit> cube: I figured it out
[06:57] <gcarrillo> i got a latitude with windows, and installed ubuntu and used the windows disc to install a VM
[06:57] <Felosis> Dr_Willis true im trying different configs with and without windows, i also get a discount through work for dell so it pretty much evens out
[06:57] <chetnick> ok compiz fusion install
[06:57] <chetnick> installed
[06:57] <EruditeHermit> cube: mkfs.vfat -n ipod /dev/sda1
[06:57] <chetnick> :)
[06:57] <chetnick> but is there any control panel?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Felosis i do also.. but the discount we get is JUST on the 'extended service plans' - so its a rip off.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:57] <chetnick> found
[06:57] <chetnick> it
[06:57] <Felosis> Irreducibilis possibly in that case hard to say though honestly i havent priced parts on a laptop for about 3 years
[06:57] <nickrud> gcarrillo: what, no game partition :)
[06:57] <underwatercow> If I switch to Ubuntu 64-bit, will I miss anything important? Flash works on it now, right? or do you still have to use a third party like Gnash?
[06:57] <nomaS> chetnick: #compiz-fusion
[06:57] <EruditeHermit> cube: thank you so much for your help
[06:58] <Felosis> Dr_Willis you dont have to get the extended service plan, just tell it the 1 year and youll get a small but some discount =)
[06:58] <gcarrillo> nickrud: nope, i use the 360 for that :)
[06:58] <nickrud> smart
[06:58] <chetnick> ooo ok , didnt know
[06:58] <Pie-rate> Irreducibilis: have fun finding a lappy mobo/case that you can do SLI in. I'm sure anyone making an SLI laptop has made a deal with the mobo manufacturer
[06:58] <gcarrillo> SLI??
[06:58] <Felosis> Pie-rate exactly
[06:59] <nickrud> yeah, sounds a bit shakey to me
[06:59] <Pie-rate> gcarrillo: Scalable Link Interface
[06:59] <cube> gksudo and open the ipod
[06:59] <cdm10> macd: you here?
[06:59] <gcarrillo> Pie-rate: thx
[06:59] <Pie-rate> gcarrillo: a method developed by nvidia for running multiple graphics cards in parallel.
[06:59] <gregi_> we can have a audio conversation with amsn 0.97b me it's not work sorry my english i'm french
[06:59] <cube> it should be open as root then...i don't know why what that guy said to do in the post didn't work for u
[07:00] <macd> cdm10, yes?
[07:01] <Ishakabibble> !fstab
[07:01] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:01] <cdm10> macd: hey, could you send me a link to your page that details activity in #ubuntu?
[07:01] <cdm10> macd: I promise I'll bookmark it this time :)
[07:01] <macd> cdm10, I havent run the report in a few weeks
[07:01] <Zicks> Please help someone with Java for Firefox
[07:01] <macd> I'll give you the link but it wont be updated for about an hour
[07:01] <cdm10> macd: That's ok, can I have the URL anyway?
[07:01] <cdm10> macd: great, thanks
[07:01] <rathel> hmm.. mplayer isn't playing the right chapter when I just do mplayer dvd:// How do I find the correct chapter? It works on most other dvd's.
[07:02] <underwatercow> Does Flash work in 64bit now?
[07:03] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:03] <JohnDoe> Hi all!
[07:03] <JohnDoe> Do you all speak french or english?
[07:04] <MasterShrek> english
[07:04] <MasterShrek> !es
[07:04] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:04] <astro76> JohnDoe, this channel is English only, French in #ubuntu-fr
[07:04] <MasterShrek> oh french lol
[07:04] <MasterShrek> !fr
[07:04] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:06] <AnssiP> Why can't I "loadkeys fi-latin1" in console? And I can't list the available keymaps? How?
[07:06] <mistone> lol
[07:06] <JohnDoe> Any of you know how to exchange voice message with Ubuntu with friend who are with Windows Live Messenger?
[07:06] <coucou747> MasterShrek> I know
[07:07] <coucou747> JohnDoe> good luck...
[07:07] <AnssiP> I have default 7.04, should I installe something to get Finnish keyboard for console?
[07:08] <russe11> I have a subversion server running on Ubuntu 7.04. I'd like to turn that into a mirror of an existing subversion server, and have it automatically check for updates. Any ideas how I might accomplish this?
[07:09] <glassd> is anyone else having trouble running an update right now?
[07:09] <mistone> I don't have any ?
[07:09] <glassd> i just installed, tons of updates for me
[07:10] <mm_202> Anyone help me out with ripping a DVD with K3b?  Ive googled around but didnt find anything useful.
[07:10] <AnssiP> Should I use install-keymap instead of loadkeys?
[07:11] <mistone> mm_202: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVD::Rip
[07:11] <mm_202> mistone: thank you
[07:11] <mistone> I googled ubuntu rip dvd
[07:11] <mistone> lol
[07:11] <jdong> mm_202: you need to use Medibuntu repository's K3b to do encrypted DVD rips with it
[07:11] <jdong> mm_202: that's probably the component you were missing
[07:11] <snowglobe> how do i restart the sound in ubuntu?
[07:12] <speedy_> how can i switch wireless modes
[07:12] <mm_202> jdong: okay, thank you, I'll check that out.
[07:12] <glassd> i keep getting this error about not being able to authenticate packages while running an update
[07:14] <JohnDoe> Any of you know how to exchange voice message with Ubuntu with friend who are with Windows Live Messenger?
[07:14] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:16] <mistone> JohnDoe: two seconds of googling
[07:16] <mistone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3490831
[07:17] <DShepherd> JohnDoe, skype works...
[07:17] <adminn> guys were is the mirror blob screensaver pictures folder at?
[07:17] <yigal> does ekiga suck compared to skype?
[07:17] <adminn> anyone konw
[07:18] <JohnDoe> I can exchange voice message with Skype to WLM
[07:18] <ianm_> has anyone used the truecrypt-installer scripts in gutsy?
[07:18] <Avt3k> were does mirror blob screensaver get the pictures from?
[07:18] <DShepherd> JohnDoe, no. but if your friend downloads skype too
[07:19] <DShepherd> JohnDoe, you both can chat. but I am not sure if that's an option
[07:19] <speedy_> can i any1 tell me how can can i switch wireless modes?
[07:19] <Irreducibilis> !better
[07:19] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:20] <Avt3k> what about the mirror blob screensaver pictures folder??
[07:20] <yigal> Irreducibilis: was that "!better" pointed at me?
[07:21] <unagi> my god i will never buy a game through steam ever again
[07:21] <unagi> !offtopic
[07:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:21] <Irreducibilis> yigal: indeed
[07:22] <Irreducibilis> unagi: Concidering the server load.... better to buy the DVD
[07:22] <nomaS> !vnc
[07:22] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:22] <ramza3> anybody work with the pcsx playstation1 emulator and how to get a more recent version
[07:22] <sd32> how do I change desktop managers?
[07:23] <yigal> sd32: what dm do you want to change to?
[07:23] <sd32> kdm
[07:23] <JohnDoe> No option work with WLM!
[07:23] <Scunizi> sd32 when you boot look for the Options button on the login screen, click and then sessions.
[07:23] <yigal> sd32: do you have kdm installed already?
[07:23] <Avt3k>  were does mirror blob screensaver get the pictures from? <<<
[07:24] <speedy_> im havin trouble switchin wireless mode...can any1 wat can i do?
[07:24] <sd32> not shure, put kubuntudesktop on top of ubuntu
[07:24] <yigal> sd32: if not it should ask you when you install it, if you want to use it
[07:24] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:24] <Scunizi> sd32, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, then switch sessions the way I described.. you can make either one default.
[07:24] <ianm_> Colro: can't wait?
[07:25] <sd32> scunizi, thanks
[07:25] <Scunizi> np
[07:25] <Colro> ianm_: I'd prefer not to, this version runs like crap so anything that's a potential upgrade looks good.
[07:25] <yigal> sd32: I believe, if you have it, something like, "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" should do it
[07:25] <yigal> sd32: that is if you don't want the entire kubuntu desktop
[07:26] <[R] > does the livecd support S3 suspend to ram?
[07:26] <Colro> ianm_: Plus the current version has been out for two months and still isn't on the restricted manager, and doesn't look like it's going to be added to gutsy either.
[07:26] <oriana> hello
[07:27] <sd32> yigal, i am running kubuntu desktop right now
[07:27] <yigal> sd32: ok then dpkg-reconfigure kdm is probably what you will want to do
[07:27] <sd32> yigal, ok thanks
[07:28] <[R] > no one knows about suspend to ram?
[07:28] <rhetoric> is there any better looking irc client for gnome than xchat?
[07:28] <rhetoric> im not a fan of bitchx
[07:28] <sadita> hola
[07:28] <cafuego> rhetoric: irssi
[07:28] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, you can customize the look of xchat
[07:28] <MasterShrek> transparent background even
[07:28] <rhetoric> master, sort of
[07:29] <yigal> rhetoric: you can also customize pidgin
[07:29] <Scunizi> rhetoric, konversation is nice, irssi is nice but two different animals..
[07:29] <underwatercow> does flash work on 64 bit Ubuntu?
[07:29] <rhetoric> it looks ok with my gtk2 theme but meh, i'd rahter have something more customizable
[07:29] <oriana> trying to my nvidia working - have all files downloaded but stuck - display is 1024x768 - nvidia nx8600gt pci express
[07:29] <rhetoric> and not a terminal irc app im tired of it
[07:29] <Scunizi> !flash64 | underwatercow
[07:29] <ubotu> underwatercow: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:29] <underwatercow> what about Intel Core 2 Duo?
[07:29] <underwatercow> ;-D
[07:30] <MasterShrek> oriana, ive talked to about 4 people today who cant get that 8600gt to work
[07:30] <underwatercow> Scunizi: what about Intel Core 2 Duo?
[07:30] <SeveredCross> underwatercow: Same thing...
[07:30] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, mirc on wine
[07:30] <yigal> rhetoric: I just changed from irssi to pidgin, and am pretty happy with the results
[07:30] <SeveredCross> The x86_64 distro is the same for AMD64/C2D
[07:30] <rhetoric> well in that case, anyone have a good set of xchat settings (lol) for a dark blue background?
[07:30] <Scunizi> underwatercow, probably I just don't know what to referance for ubotu.. I run 32bit
[07:30] <rhetoric> im running ubuntu on an older ibook, no wine for me
[07:31] <underwatercow> SeveredCross: That's good to know... thanks
[07:31] <rhetoric> ppc chip no likey
[07:31] <oriana> mastershrek - so does this mean i'm without options?
[07:31] <underwatercow> SeveredCross, Scunizi: The main reason I'm now interested in 64 bit is the X-Fi drivers are 64 bit only :(
[07:31] <SeveredCross> Wine on PPC would be truly impressive.
[07:31] <rhetoric> indeed sev
[07:31] <MasterShrek> oriana, u can use vesa for now
[07:31] <MasterShrek> or nv
[07:31] <MasterShrek> underwatercow, whats X-Fi?
[07:32] <SeveredCross> Flash on 64 bit is possible via nspluginwrapper, though I have 0 experience with it (I have a Core Duo, Yonah core, 32-bit only).
[07:32] <rhetoric> i have alot of eyecandy working it looks alot better than whatever osx nonsense was on here when i got it
[07:32] <MasterShrek> i use nspluginwrapper for flash, works great
[07:32] <underwatercow> MasterShrek: Creative X-Fi... it's a sound card
[07:32] <yigal> SeveredCross: wine on ppc would be off the hook
[07:32] <oriana> mastershrek - will world of warcraft be out of the question then?
[07:32] <underwatercow> MasterShrek: is it hard to set up? or as easy as installing from a repo?
[07:32] <neocorleone> where can i download the skydemo
[07:32] <MasterShrek> oriana, most likely
[07:32] <rhetoric> flash sucks on ppc :/
[07:33] <MasterShrek> !flash64 | underwatercow
[07:33] <ubotu> underwatercow: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:33] <Scunizi> neocorleone, skydemo?
[07:33] <oriana> ummm - not to good...
[07:33] <mistone> flash sucks
[07:33] <rhetoric> gnash works, but you have to leech the flv file
[07:33] <rhetoric> wont work in browser
[07:33] <MasterShrek> underwatercow, theres a tut on there, pretty easy to do
[07:33] <yigal> mistone: but I want my youtube
[07:33] <rhetoric> at least on my box
[07:33] <BobBarker> I have a somewhat theoretical question, why does ubuntu have a server variant? Is that not contrary to the point of ubuntu as a desktop distro specializing in usability?
[07:33] <underwatercow> rhetoric: leech the flv file?
[07:33] <mistone> did you try gnash
[07:33] <BobBarker> wouldn't you just simply use debian if you wanted the package manager in a server enviroment?
[07:33] <rhetoric> there is a plugin for firefox that lets you download the flash video file from say youtube
[07:33] <MasterShrek> BobBarker, server is just the same as desktop, minus some programs and a gui, you can install things though and make it just like desktop
[07:34] <rhetoric> then you open that with gnash
[07:34] <yigal> mistone: gnash fails for some important stuff :(
[07:34] <underwatercow> rhetoric: why not use gnash directly?
[07:34] <BobBarker> MasterShrek, you just discribed essentially what debian is
[07:34] <BobBarker> described*
[07:34] <cafuego> MasterShrek: Not quite, server boots a different kernel by default.
[07:34] <rhetoric> that's what im saying underwatercow
[07:34] <MasterShrek> cafuego, yea i guess, but its pretty much the same
[07:34] <rhetoric> it works if you save the flash file and open it in gnash, but the browser plugin doesnt seem to work
[07:34] <BobBarker> im not sayinh ubuntu server is bad, just...redundant
[07:34] <mistone> it works with youtube :P
[07:34] <rhetoric> for my ppc box i mean, should be fine in windows
[07:34] <rhetoric> errr intel bleh
[07:34] <mistone> but your right
[07:34] <mistone> the web without flash sucks
[07:34] <underwatercow> rhetoric: I installed Gnash not long ago, and it works fine for me... well... it's a little tweaky
[07:35] <cafuego> BobBarker: Not at all, has different packages.
[07:35] <mistone> which in it of it self sucks
[07:35] <MasterShrek> nsplugwrapper works fine
[07:35] <rhetoric> on a powerpc box?
[07:35] <BobBarker> cafuego, but they both use apt-get and therefore can share repositories
[07:35] <underwatercow> rhetoric: then again, I am using Gutsy, and it lets you install Gnash as a plugin, so maybe that's why
[07:35] <cafuego> BobBarker: So?
[07:35] <yigal> mistone: yes, I use clive to download youtube clips anyway and then gnash to watch them
[07:35] <rhetoric> it's because of my ppc chip and otherwise antiquated hardware
[07:35] <rhetoric> im almost sure
[07:35] <cafuego> BobBarker: You saying I should do a desktop install on a server and then remove gnome again?
[07:35] <MasterShrek> BobBarker, its just ubuntu with a few different and alot less packages
[07:35] <rhetoric> i have the gnash plugin installed and it... kinda works
[07:35] <BobBarker> so why fork a distro specializing in desktop users into a distro specializing servers which is made redundant because ubuntu being a fork of debian
[07:36] <BobBarker> a very popular server distro
[07:36] <BobBarker> cafuego, im telling you to use debian
[07:36] <speedy87> im having problems my interface isnt accepting private ioctl....what does that mean?
[07:36] <MasterShrek> use slackware for a server
[07:36] <rhetoric> in the browser though, youtube videos are garbled and the controls dont work
[07:36] <BobBarker> I know what ubuntu server is, I'm a professional linux sysadmin
[07:36] <mistone> BobBarker: I would rather use ubuntu because of the ideas behind ubuntu
[07:36] <BobBarker> I'm just wondering why there is a fork of a fork to specialize in a field the origin distro (being debian) is in
[07:36] <cafuego> BobBarker: Because debian - bless them - have seen fir to throw certain useful packages out of the distro altogether. That and ubuntu is a bit more up to date these days.
[07:36] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:37] <BobBarker> cafuego, but you could simply just add ubuntu repos to apt-get
[07:37] <mistone> ubuntu isn't more up to date
[07:37] <rhetoric> ubuntu
[07:37] <rhetoric> ubuntu's dad could beat up debian's dad
[07:37] <BobBarker> mistone, that's not really an answer... "ideals"...
[07:37] <BobBarker> sounds like koolaid drinking to me
[07:37] <MasterShrek> slackware could beat up debians dad and ubuntus grandpa
[07:37] <rhetoric> :)
[07:37] <mistone> meaning debians requirements are to high for what makes a OS
[07:37] <BobBarker> im mulling this over, I'm trying to figure out why ubuntu server exists
[07:38] <cafuego> BobBarker: Install ubuntu packages on debian? And end up with an unmaintainable mess? You've never actually DONE this, have you?
[07:38] <BobBarker> mistone, you're not making sense
[07:38] <mistone> they want every little detial to be opensource, I am willing to give that up for moe functionality
[07:38] <BobBarker> mistone, then don't use debian, use something else
[07:38] <BobBarker> but all ubuntu is a redressed debian
[07:38] <yigal> I am on a debian unstable system right now :)
[07:38] <mistone> yea I use ubuntu thats what I am saying
[07:38] <cafuego> BobBarker: Ok, that's probably enough trolling for today.
[07:39] <yigal> compiz-fusion, and all the bells and whistles not too much difference
[07:39] <BobBarker> ubuntu is wonderful for desktop purposes, that's it's original design. But why make a fork of a fork?
[07:39] <mistone> ol
[07:39] <mistone> go to the wikipedia page on ubuntu
[07:39] <BobBarker> to fullfil a purpose already completed by the original distro that is
[07:39] <underwatercow> Does compiz-fusion work on KDE?
[07:39] <mistone> it explains it perfect lol
[07:39] <nickrud> single source support, maybe, BobBarker
[07:39] <mistone> underwatercow: yea
[07:39] <rhetoric> btw compiz-fusion and awn works on this 1.3ghz powerpc like a charm :)
[07:39] <BobBarker> nickrud, that's actually a good point
[07:39] <yigal> underwatercow: yes
[07:39] <rhetoric> awn-curves is awesome
[07:39] <BobBarker> considering ubuntu provides paid support, correct?
[07:39] <nickrud> yes
[07:39] <BobBarker> okay I'm satisified, carry on.
[07:40] <underwatercow> mistone, yigal: I had it working on Ubuntu (Gnome) then I installed kde-desktop, and it didn't seem to want to run in KDE.
[07:40] <mistone> rhetoric:  alot of is run the graphics card, makes sense
[07:40] <rhetoric> im not saying it doesnt make sense :) just is awesome
[07:40] <yigal> underwatercow: what instructions did you follow?
[07:40] <mistone> yep :D
[07:40] <underwatercow> yigal: none... I just installed kde-desktop, lol
[07:40] <rhetoric> im a first time linux fulltime linux desktop user so
[07:41] <yigal> underwatercow: to get cf to work you will need to follow some instructions
[07:41] <nanonyme> rhetoric, heh, then you don't really know how fast xubuntu would run on the system ;)
[07:41] <rhetoric> my previous experience in linux amounts (essentially) to trying to install slackware on a compaq in the 90's (yea that didnt go well)
[07:41] <underwatercow> yigal: I was hoping it would work on it's own... ;-D
[07:41] <rhetoric> and scripting in my scene kiddie days
[07:41] <yigal> underwatercow: you have a lot of faith, I like that :)
[07:42] <rhetoric> so to see this box running smoother and looking much better in linux than its "native" OS is awesome
[07:42] <underwatercow> yigal: seemed like a good enough approach at the time... I had no reason to believe it wouldn't work...
[07:42] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:42] <underwatercow> yigal: After I installed KDE... I re-decided that I didn't really have any use for KDE, and would rather stick with Gnome anyway... I was just curious why it didn't work
[07:42] <MasterShrek> underwatercow, install kubuntu-desktop and choose kde from the sessions option on your login screen
[07:43] <suupaabaka> why does compiz-fusion hate the xv video driver? :(
[07:43] <mistone> yea I like gnome alot better , I have used kde in a wihle tho
[07:43] <mistone> I remeber whole admin screens just not working lol
[07:43] <underwatercow> MasterShrek: Is that why the compiz didn't work? I was still using gdm...
[07:43] <yigal> underwatercow: I really like GNOME, I hated for a long time and only used the CLI but GNOME has come just such a long way
[07:43] <mistone> underwatercow: do you have ati or nvidia?
[07:43] <underwatercow> mistone: nvidia 8800 gts
[07:43] <MasterShrek> underwatercow, no, it shouldnt matter that you are using gdm
[07:44] <mistone> underwatercow: yea if you hook us up with error messages then we can help
[07:44] <MasterShrek> kde4 is going to rock the linux world
[07:44] <yigal> underwatercow: did you replace kwin, with "compiz --replace" etc.?
[07:44] <underwatercow> yigal: that would be a no
[07:44] <rhetoric> dont forget emerald --replace :)
[07:44] <rhetoric> im assuming you'd use that with compiz
[07:44] <yigal> underwatercow: it will take a little more work in KDE but it is not too difficult :)
[07:44] <miyaka> how can i integrate my http server to xmpp client?
[07:45] <rhetoric> ooh nvm in kde sorry i read wrong
[07:45] <underwatercow> yigal: I like the effects of KDE... but I don't really like the complexity... and I don't like how everything has a K in it...
[07:45] <therealnanotube> MasterShrek: when's kde4 coming out? is that gonna be in gutsy?
[07:45] <pentest> does dapper drake dont have the build-essential package?
[07:45] <funkyb> is it possible to run compiz on a tri-mon setup?  recently switched to ubuntu on my lappy and am having a great experience.  I'd love to load it on on the desktop, but that box is tri-mon...
[07:45] <suupaabaka> underwatercow: I second that.
[07:45] <therealnanotube> pentest: it has it
[07:45] <RamiKassab> hey guys, can anyone recommend some good regex helpers/builders/testers for ubuntu? I'm a newbie when it comes to regex and would like an app to help guide me
[07:45] <suupaabaka> KDE's naming system really bugs me.
[07:45] <pentest> therealnanotube
[07:45] <underwatercow> suupaabaka: both of them? or just one of them?
[07:45] <pentest> but it can't be downloaded
[07:45] <mistone> funkyb: just wait 3 days, the new release has it built in...
[07:46] <funkyb> thx mistone
[07:46] <pentest> root@staff:~# apt-get install build-essential
[07:46] <pentest> Reading package lists... Done
[07:46] <pentest> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:46] <pentest> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[07:46] <rhetoric> i hate things being spelled with k when it should be c, in general
[07:46] <therealnanotube> pentest: what exactly are you doing, and what's the error?
[07:46] <pentest> that's what it says
[07:46] <underwatercow> suupaabaka: never mind... you answered already ;-D
[07:46] <pentest> what should i do?
[07:46] <jmdc> I seem to remember that the dictionary applet used to build in spell checking, and now it doesn't. Am I mis-remembering? Was the feature cut? Is it something that can be turned on and off?
[07:46] <MasterShrek> therealnanotube, i dont think so, its avaiable in beta right now in gutsy, but im not sure when its going to be released
[07:46] <therealnanotube> RamiKassab: grep? :)
[07:46] <mehevi> pentest check your repositories
[07:46] <funkyb> i asked because youtube has several clips of compiz on duals, but non w/ tri-mon.
[07:46] <pentest> mehevi where is it located?
[07:46] <staykovmarin> hi is there a command to open the file browser from command line
[07:46] <RamiKassab> therealnanotube: lol, umm that would require actually knowing regular expressions :)
[07:46] <rhetoric> Mortal KDEombat
[07:46] <pentest> pm pls
[07:46] <underwatercow> I have enough issues trying to get a dual monitor to work with compiz
[07:47] <yigal> funkyb: you want it on 3 monitors :)
[07:47] <therealnanotube> MasterShrek: ah ic... im curious to see it ;) right now i'm using gnome, just because i like gnome's panel better... :)
[07:47] <yigal> funkyb: awesome
[07:47] <suupaabaka> underwatercow: i might give kde a proper go if they got rid of the naming convention, but seeing as that's unlikely, i'm left with gnome or e17 (if it ever gets released)
[07:47] <funkyb> :-)
[07:47] <rhetoric> does anyone know how i can find and replace a certain element of a gtk theme
[07:47] <MasterShrek> therealnanotube, what about gnome's panel is so pleasing?
[07:47] <underwatercow> suupaabaka: lol... that's ok... I love Gnome anyway...
[07:47] <pentest> mehevi
[07:47] <mistone> yea  I really like gnome to
[07:47] <mehevi> what.
[07:47] <rhetoric> namely the resize grabber on the notification area, etc.
[07:47] <pentest> where i can find the reposiroty?
[07:47] <underwatercow> Gnome has just seemed more reliable to me
[07:47] <yigal> gnome is just getting better and better quickly.  it was unusable 3 years ago
[07:47] <therealnanotube> RamiKassab: hehe hmm, true. how about searching for a regexp tutorial on the web? you know regexps also differ depending on the implementation... so you want to make sure you 'learn' the right one for your purposes :)
[07:48] <MasterShrek> suupaabaka, i thought e17 was released now
[07:48] <jmdc> staykovmarin: nautilus [options]  URIs
[07:48] <suupaabaka> yeah, it is reliable. a bit of a resource hog, but nothing compared to winblows
[07:48] <RamiKassab> therealnanotube: for example, Komodo ide has a great built in regex wizard and tester... I'm not using Komodo though, I use VI/Eclipse and need something to help. There's a bunch of regex tester plugins for Eclipse but not really any wizards that will help guide building the expressions
[07:48] <mehevi> oh sorry I was talking to someone in real life.  Try in etc/apt/sources.lst
[07:48] <underwatercow> Gnome also has much better support... it's default in many distros and gets features sooner than Kubuntu
[07:48] <suupaabaka> MasterShrek: It hasn't been released, though you can still use it.
[07:48] <MasterShrek> i know that suupaabaka, but i thought it got released like a week or two ago, but maybe i misread the rss
[07:48] <mistone> yea compiz kinda of fucked over e17 lol
[07:48] <pentest> mehevi yeah. what should be written in my sources.list?
[07:48] <suupaabaka> MasterShrek: Serious?
[07:48] <RamiKassab> therealnanotube: true, I'm looking to learn more the basics which are used in all languages then I can dwell more into detail
[07:49] <MasterShrek> suupaabaka, i could be wrong...
[07:49] <rhetoric> my major problem with compiz on this old machine: video sucks especially fullscreen
[07:49] <mr_butter> hey peeps.  I isntalled something using apt-get install cvs I want to remove it can someone help please?!
[07:49] <rhetoric> i got it working but it's slow and buggy
[07:49] <mehevi> pentest edit that file as root and deselect the CD repo.  make sure all the repositories are uncommented
[07:49] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:49] <MasterShrek> mr_butter, apt-get remove
[07:49] <suupaabaka> MasterShrek: Nah, still under development. If it got released, it'd be all over the place ;)
[07:49] <pentest> i did mehevi but nothing happens
[07:49] <mr_butter> thank you master
[07:49] <mr_butter> thank the heavens
[07:50] <therealnanotube> RamiKassab: ah hmm.. i've never run into any kind of regex wizard/tester things myself. :) i just kinda write a regexp, test it with grep, and if it works, wee. :) with some help from a regexp reference page or something.
[07:50] <rhetoric> screw the heavens! :P
[07:50] <MasterShrek> suupaabaka, i like e17, but its a pain to work with at first
[07:50] <mr_butter> hahahah
[07:50] <suupaabaka> MasterShrek: Tell me about it. And the lack of a systray drives me batty.
[07:50] <mehevi> pentest now do sudo apt-get update then try to get build-essential again
[07:50] <rhetoric> what's e17? excuse my total ignorance
[07:50] <mehevi> e17 is a window manager
[07:50] <suupaabaka> rhetoric: Enlightenment 17
[07:51] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, an alternative to gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox, etc
[07:51] <suupaabaka> rhetoric: Very fancy window manager.
[07:51] <rhetoric> gotcha
[07:51] <underwatercow> Colro: Most likely it would be as simple as making a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and replacing it if there's a problem, but I'm not expert
[07:51] <MasterShrek> its fancy and takes low resources
[07:51] <suupaabaka> rhetoric: Animated desktop wallpaper etc.
[07:51] <rhetoric> AH
[07:51] <underwatercow> Colro: I have an NVIDIA too, so that's my basis
[07:51] <rhetoric> caps lock boo
[07:51] <mehevi> how low of resources? Less than Xfce?
[07:51] <rhetoric> getting used to this laptop
[07:51] <mistone> caps lock is cruise control for awesome
[07:51] <alpha> Hi All - Will a Nvidia GeForce 7300 GS work in ubuntu?
[07:51] <jmdc> my experience is that the beauty is skin deep
[07:51] <pentest> i see now mehevi
[07:51] <pentest> thanks
[07:51] <MasterShrek> mehevi, i think so, but i may be wrong
[07:51] <mistone> alpha for sure
[07:51] <MasterShrek> alpha, it should
[07:51] <mehevi> pentest no prob glad I could help
[07:51] <suupaabaka> mehevi: I think it's about the same as xfce, unless I'm mistaken.
[07:52] <pentest> thanks a lot dude
[07:52] <yigal> what do you mean by resources?  GNOME works faster than wmii which is extremely light on resources
[07:52] <mehevi> Xfce is wierd.  I spent all day getting it to work right for me
[07:52] <alpha> great  thx a bunch MasterShrek  & mistone - mucho apreciate it  :o0
[07:52] <MasterShrek> thats cuz gnome has tons of crap preloaded into your ram
[07:53] <mistone> alpha, it work no matter what, its just a matter if you want to use the nvidia drivers , I highly recommond you do
[07:53] <yigal> MasterShrek: exactly but all DM do this even wmii does this its really the kernel doing it
[07:53] <MasterShrek> yigal, does wmii not load faster than gnome?
[07:53] <mistone> when you install it, it will ask if you want to use thier drivers
[07:53] <mehevi> well its not because its preloaded, it will let that stuff go if it needs more memory to allocate.  Plus what good is memory that isnt allocated to a task?
[07:53] <yigal> MasterShrek: loads yes, but it works in general slower
[07:53] <russe11> I have a subversion server running on Ubuntu 7.04. I'd like to turn that into a mirror of an existing subversion server, and have it automatically check for updates. Any ideas how I might accomplish this?
[07:53] <underwatercow> XFCE is pretty sweet, but it lacks some features I like
[07:53] <jml> hello
[07:54] <yigal> MasterShrek: and I have to reload X server as there are memory leaks in wmii that are totally not present in GNOME
[07:54] <underwatercow> What made Ubuntu so bad three years ago?
[07:54] <underwatercow> er
[07:54] <underwatercow> Gnome
[07:54] <mehevi> I got mine looking like an amiga desktop.  topaz-8.ttf for the win
[07:54] <yigal> underwatercow: I was using Debian 3 years ago
[07:54] <MasterShrek> yigal, i dont use wmii, so i wouldnt know, but i hate gnome
[07:54] <jml> I've got a macbook and an external keyboard running gutsy. Is there a way to get the alt/win key reversal to change when I plug my external keyboard in?
[07:54] <alpha> MasterShrek - yup I do - Want to run World of Warcraft - Should be ok huh?
[07:54] <mistone> underwatercow: KDE was a just better in alot of ways
[07:55] <rhetoric> is the official version of gutsy coming soon?
[07:55] <underwatercow> ah, ok...
[07:55] <mehevi> jml there is a kernel module specifically for that, cant remember what it is called
[07:55] <MasterShrek> alpha, yes, u shold be able to run it under wine, it may take a little bit of setting up though
[07:55] <underwatercow> 3 days
[07:55] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, thursdaty
[07:55] <funkyb> 18th :-)
[07:55] <mistone> honestly I don't remeber but it I just rember it being no compltion
[07:55] <underwatercow> well, 3 days for me
[07:55] <MasterShrek> thursday*
[07:55] <rhetoric> as a first timer really, how hard should the update be for me?
[07:55] <rhetoric> will i have to recompile alot?
[07:55] <alpha> MasterShrek - yea I'm up to it - how about using CrossOver?
[07:55] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, it shouldnt be bad, no recompiling
[07:55] <funkyb> are there significant changes between the beta gusty i used a week ago and the official release?
[07:55] <mehevi> afk
[07:56] <MasterShrek> alpha, no idea
[07:56] <zaatar_> Hey, is ssh not enabled/installed by default in the LAMP server of ubuntu 6.06?
[07:56] <MasterShrek> funkyb, mostly bug fixes i guess
[07:56] <funkyb> ty
[07:56] <alpha> mastershrek - thx
[07:56] <yigal> MasterShrek: you hate GNOME for what reason?
[07:56] <glassd> am i the only person having update problems?
[07:56] <jmdc> I am looking for a dictionary panel applet spell checker? (Which I'm 95% certain used to be turned on by default?)
[07:56] <rhetoric> what's the best M for me TFR as far as updating?
[07:56] <sauvin> I hate gnome for it's "look and feel".
[07:56] <mistone> ok e17 looks pretty now
[07:56] <mistone> I haven't seen the recent updates lol
[07:56] <MasterShrek> yigal, its crap, i got nothing, but i prefer kde
[07:56] <mistone> but can't you do alot of it in gnome?
[07:56] <MasterShrek> lol
[07:56] <underwatercow> funkyb: there are some changes, but I don't then anything major
[07:56] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[07:57] <rhetoric> atul: install the dependency?
[07:57] <jmdc> glassd: what problems are you refering to?
[07:57] <glassd> some error message saying packages couldn't be authenticated
[07:57] <atul> which dependacy i required. I had install all but still it gives me error
[07:58] <rhetoric> you installed the one it named?
[07:58] <yigal> MasterShrek: I used to like KDE the best I even flamed GNOME in Ubuntuforums but GNOME just grew on me, it works very well with very little work and for me as a scientist and not primarily a computer scientist that makes GNOME better.
[07:58] <glassd> the only other information i can get from the error is a huge list of packages (which seem to be the 300 or so that need to be updated)
[07:58] <jmdc> glassd: did you just do a new install or something?
[07:58] <atul> rhetoric, I install all dependancy but still which one is missing i dont understand.
[07:58] <glassd> yes i did
[07:58] <stunatra> I used to prefer KDE, but I grew to like Gnome, now I prefer it.
[07:58] <ToddEDM> so ok guys, when i get the transformers DVD, which is the best way to copy it? what program would you use?
[07:58] <MasterShrek> yigal, to each his own, im a gnome-basher tho lol
[07:58] <rhetoric> atul: did you install the one in the error message?
[07:58] <yigal> glassd: I want you to run: sudo apt-get update, for us
[07:59] <atul> rhetoric, Yes I install that one also
[07:59] <underwatercow> I'm going to goto sleep now, but before I do... a haiku...Haikus are easy / but they don't always make sense / Refrigerator.
[07:59] <MasterShrek> =P
[07:59] <jmdc> glassd yes, do that. Also, did you change your apt sources file? (If you don't know, you probably didn't)
[07:59] <yigal> underwatercow: ty, best have good shut eye
[07:59] <rhetoric> atul: ok then it's above my head :) i was going to suggest ways to find this package :/
[08:00] <underwatercow> yigal: thanks for your insight on whatever it was we talked about
[08:00] <rhetoric> maybe it's a matter of path definition?
[08:00] <atul> rhetoric, ok thanks anyway
[08:00] <glassd> i changed an option in the install manager to all programs to download vlc and gstreamer, but that's it
[08:00] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[08:00] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[08:00] <ToddEDM> can anyone tell me the best way to copy Transformers when i get it???
[08:00] <stunatra> atul, stop flooding.
[08:00] <MasterShrek> ToddEDM, the dvd?
[08:01] <ToddEDM> yes
[08:01] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: Are we allowed to tell that in here? lol
[08:01] <ToddEDM> lol
[08:01] <atul> stundatra, ya sorry by mistake
[08:01] <MasterShrek> ToddEDM, for backing up purposes right?
[08:01] <cafuego> ToddEDM: Is is legal for you to do that where you live?
[08:01] <ToddEDM> its for my own personal use... is that better?
[08:01] <rhetoric> atul maybe another package is preventing the dependency from functioning
[08:01] <MasterShrek> !info dvdrip
[08:01] <jmdc> glassd: what happened when you ran the command?
[08:01] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2572 kB
[08:01] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: It still has to be legal, but I have no room to talk ;)
[08:01] <glassd> it's still updating, lol
[08:01] <cafuego> ToddEDM: For personal sue still doesn't make it legal here in Australia.
[08:01] <glassd> my speed for downloading packages seems to be really slow
[08:01] <sd32> ok, one more problem, when I logout, the screen flashes to a blank screen and sits there,  never goes back to the login screen.
[08:02] <atul> rhetoric, actually i am very new to this platform thats why getting in trouble
[08:02] <ToddEDM> ok anyways, if it were legal, what would you use to burn it?
[08:02] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: pm
[08:02] <MasterShrek> !info dvdrip | ToddEDM
[08:02] <ubotu> toddedm: dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2572 kB
[08:02] <rhetoric> atul me too unfortunately :( what i mean is maybe another installed program is preventing this dependency from functioning
[08:02] <underwatercow> ooh... I wanna try that
[08:02] <underwatercow> lol
[08:02] <underwatercow> !info k9copy | ToddEDM
[08:02] <ubotu> toddedm: k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0~beta2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 649 kB, installed size 1764 kB
[08:02] <underwatercow> ahahaha
[08:03] <agtugo> #ubuntu-es
[08:03] <agtugo> upps
[08:03] <[chr0n0s] > how are my felow humans today :D
[08:03] <atul> rhetoric, ok anyway i ask to someone else
[08:03] <vodge> algum Brasileiro?
[08:03] <rhetoric> np
[08:03] <atul> rhetoric, thanks and keep in touch here
[08:03] <rhetoric> good luck
[08:03] <ToddEDM> so those programs will just copy it all... i dont need anything else?
[08:03] <atul> rhetoric, thanks
[08:03] <MasterShrek> [chr0n0s] , no humans here
[08:03] <[chr0n0s] > !!br
[08:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:04] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: I don't recall if I've tried dvdrip, but k9copy is very simple to use... it's my preferred
[08:04] <[chr0n0s] > MasterShrek : then fellow geeks :P
[08:04] <rhetoric> this channel moves too gd fast lol
[08:04] <MasterShrek> thats better
[08:04] <ToddEDM> underwatercow: thanks man, i will give it a try, i have both on my system
[08:04] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, #windows probably moves faster =P
[08:04] <rhetoric> hahah
[08:04] <rhetoric> good call
[08:04] <[chr0n0s] > rhetoric : that's why you type in this format --> <nick> : msg
[08:05] <glassd> ok, the update was successfull
[08:05] <rhetoric> chr0n0s, indeed
[08:05] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: k9copy will let you select what chapters and such you want, titles, subtitles, etc, then you can burn it directly, or to an iso... you can also change size in the settings... if you want to get it on a 4.7GiB DVD, then make sure the iso size is 4300
[08:05] <jmdc> glassd: you in general have a good connection though right?
[08:05] <[chr0n0s] > 2 more days, damn :(
[08:05] <glassd> yes
[08:05] <[chr0n0s] > my fiesty installation is broken :S
[08:05] <cafuego> MasterShrek: #windows is just a litany of "You need to reinstall." very boring.
[08:05] <ToddEDM> underwatercow:  thanks, thats good info
[08:05] <rhetoric> LOL cafuego
[08:05] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: I learned that the hard way ;-D
[08:05] <rhetoric> how did i guess
[08:05] <ToddEDM> lol
[08:06] <[chr0n0s] > cafuego : you can upgrade also, but i always like to reinstall
[08:06] <glassd> the apt-get update seemed to do the trick
[08:06] <ToddEDM> it comes out tomorrow doesnt it ?
[08:06] <rhetoric> #windows subject: "Boot from CD"
[08:06] <[chr0n0s] > ToddEDM : 2 more days
[08:06] <ToddEDM> ahh
[08:06] <MasterShrek> cafuego, thats all their bot says: reinstall
[08:06] <jmdc> glassd: you're getting the updates now? and its not slow?
[08:06] <cafuego> [chr0n0s] : You can't upgrade windows to ubuntu without an install ;-)
[08:06] <glassd> 3 hours to download the partial update though...
[08:06] <glassd> no, it's still slow
[08:07] <[chr0n0s] > cafuego : very true.. ;)
[08:07] <ToddEDM> well im of to bed guys, thanks for the help
[08:07] <rhetoric> btw im curious, if i somehow make my ubuntu partition unbootable on a mac ibook, how would i recover?
[08:07] <rhetoric> since i gues macs have no bios so to speak
[08:07] <[chr0n0s] > rhetoric : try alternate CD
[08:07] <jmdc> glassd: you can find a mirror that is better.
[08:07] <rhetoric> how would i boot from cd
[08:07] <[chr0n0s] > rhetoric : bios is on motherboard
[08:07] <jmdc> glassd: do this - go to system, software sources
[08:08] <[chr0n0s] > rhetoric : install OSx before you install linux ?
[08:08] <jmdc> glassd: click on download from, choose other, and then click on select best server
[08:08] <rhetoric> chr0n0s: ive only installed linux on this machine, and im just curious no biggie if you have no idea :)
[08:08] <[chr0n0s] > oww.. sry then.. never had a first had exp on mac books
[08:08] <jmdc> glassd: then magic happens ;-) and things get faster (we hope)
[08:08] <glassd> i guess the canadian server is poopy then, lol
[08:08] <rhetoric> just wondering hehe
[08:08] <rhetoric> not used to mac hardware
[08:09] <rhetoric> or linux :)
[08:09] <[chr0n0s] > rhetoric : mac might have nothing like grub, but bios is on hardware
[08:09] <rhetoric> 2 jumps at once
[08:09] <jmdc> it might just be getting pounded at the moment
[08:09] <rhetoric> im just curious what would you do
[08:09] <[chr0n0s] > i have no idea!
[08:09] <rhetoric> yay i win 1 million dollars :P
[08:09] <glassd> cripes, that's alot faster
[08:09] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[08:10] <[chr0n0s] > i;ll play mario on my ubuntu installtion :)
[08:10] <rhetoric> anyone know if there is a playstation emulator that works decently on powerpc ubuntu?
[08:10] <jmdc> glassd: you found a different mirror I take it?
[08:10] <glassd> oh yes
[08:11] <glassd> ~300kps now
[08:11] <glassd> instead of 12
[08:11] <rhetoric> im cool with compiling said emulator, but im too noobish for any custom compiling or troubleshooting
[08:11] <Lunz> how to edit splash between logon and desktop?
[08:11] <jmdc> great! Have a lot of fun
[08:12] <rhetoric> lunz: apt-get install gnome-splashscreen-manager
[08:12] <yigal> la fem nikita is here
[08:12] <Lunz> i want custome splash screen..
[08:12] <glassd> i know i will
[08:12] <yigal> maybe not
[08:13] <glassd> i'm not new to linux, i'm just new to ubuntu, lol
[08:13] <chetnick> hi, i was trying to setup the splashimage in grub. but when i reboot computer i get failed to read splash image splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/images/frag.xpm.gz
[08:13] <yigal> Lunz: you can make your own or get some at gnome-look.org
[08:13] <rhetoric> Lunz: that package will allow you to choose an image for your splash screen
[08:13] <yigal> Lunz: or other places
[08:13] <rhetoric> lunz: and also what yigal said
[08:13] <rhetoric> gnome-splashscreen-manager is a gui to configure it
[08:14] <rhetoric> does anyone have a good set of xchat color settings etc for a blue/white desktop theme?
[08:14] <[chr0n0s] > how do i kill a window... the skull+bones symbol
[08:15] <Lunz> rhetoric:thanks
[08:15] <PurpZeY> can kill accept a variable (e.g. from cat) as a pid?
[08:15] <rhetoric> lunz: np
[08:15] <Lunz> yigal:thanks
[08:15] <emman> what is the best irc?
[08:15] <yigal> Lunz: awesome
[08:15] <rhetoric> good question purp
[08:15] <[R] > PurpZeY: kill $(cat blah)
[08:15] <[chr0n0s] > emman : what you mean by best ?
[08:15] <rhetoric> emman do you prefer terminal or gui?
[08:15] <PurpZeY> [R] : Excellent. Thanks.
[08:16] <Cryx> Heya, anyone know how to change nanos charset? I have reconfigured locales and all but nano still wont show scandinavian marks as they supposed to be :(
[08:16] <emman> gui
[08:16] <yigal> rhetoric: do want to customize or have it work right away?
[08:16] <rhetoric> emman: xchat is probably the easiest
[08:16] <PurpZeY> [R] : If my plan were to try to kill two apps (scripts at once) could I set that up kill (cat line 1), kill (cat line 2) >
[08:16] <PurpZeY> ?
[08:16] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[08:16] <yigal> emman: pidgin is nice though
[08:16] <yigal> rhetoric: sorry meant emman
[08:16] <chetnick> rhetoric: i dont have gnome-splashscreen-manager
[08:16] <mistone> yea I use pidgin its good
[08:17] <rhetoric> yigal: you mean xchat colors? i was just wondering if someone had a good color theme going and wanted to dcc me their conf files
[08:17] <Coremonk22> nickruddddddd u here?
[08:17] <glassd> PurpZeY: if it's in a shell script idon't see why it wouldn't
[08:17] <chetnick> rhetoric: i have a lot of others gnome-*-manager-s but not that one
[08:17] <rhetoric> my desktop is dark blue and everything else is glass/clear
[08:17] <Coremonk22> sadness
[08:17] <yigal> rhetoric: no, not so much of a mod man
[08:17] <yigal> rhetoric: are you using glass icon set for gnome?
[08:17] <Coremonk22> Question for ya guys, well kind of extensive one haha
[08:17] <salzh> During compiling freeswitch, i got the error: make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[08:17] <salzh> make: *** [all]  Error 2.
[08:17] <rhetoric> i forgot the name of my icon set
[08:18] <rhetoric> i think i opted against glass
[08:18] <PurpZeY> glassd: Well, I am trying to kill two shell scripts with a keyboard shortcut
[08:18] <rhetoric> my gtk2 theme looks nice in xchat
[08:18] <rhetoric> just need to match the colors in xchat conf and im lazy :)
[08:18] <joe74> Hi I am having a big issue with IRC, it disconnect me all the time, any IRC I use it will do it, right now I am running Xcgat from live cd, can anyone see me>
[08:18] <[R] > salzh: that means nothing
[08:18] <mistone> rhetoric: what theme? I have tried all sorts of themes and the defualt is still the best I found
[08:18] <rhetoric> mistone: theme for what now?
 my gtk2 theme looks nice in xchat
[08:19] <Coremonk22> So I have a laptop with 160 gigs, it had vista installed. I installed ubuntu 7.04 and repartitioned the drive for like 20 gigs ubuntu, the rest vista. well, everything seemed to go ok, the ubuntu one had 20 gigs but when i logged into vista it had like 9 gigs total and some random unpartitioned space of 120 gigs or so...how do i repartition the 120 back into my vista partition?
[08:19] <rhetoric> oh gtk?
[08:19] <mistone> yea
[08:19] <rhetoric> i got it from gnome-art
[08:19] <glassd> PurpZeY: but your writing a shell script for the shortcut key right?
[08:19] <rhetoric> H20 something saphire
[08:19] <Coremonk22> and i cant login to my windows partition anymore because i deleted the linux distro
[08:19] <drewbenn> Hey folks, still learning about linux/ubuntu: where, in the filesystem, is the 'Applications' (ubuntu feisty / gnome) menu located?  i.e. in MS Windows the Start Menu is a bunch of shortcuts located somewhere like \all users\<me>\start menu\ ... is the Ubuntu 'Applications' menu a similar beast, and if so, where is it?
[08:19] <Agent_bob> i have an issue with the keyboard not working correctly
[08:20] <Coremonk22> so it trys to load "grub" but cant load it
[08:20] <Coremonk22> so it just says error
[08:20] <mistone> drewbenn: top right corner of the screen it says aplications :P
[08:20] <yigal> Coremonk22: just use a live cd and install grub
[08:20] <joe74> can anyone see what im typing
[08:20] <Coremonk22> hmph
[08:20] <Coremonk22> good idea
[08:20] <Agent_bob> drewbenn in a terminal    echo $PATH
[08:20] <Coremonk22> im an idiot
[08:20] <yigal> joe74: yep
[08:20] <Coremonk22> thanks for the reality check yigal
[08:20] <Coremonk22> =] 
[08:20] <yigal> Coremonk22: cool man
[08:20] <yigal> Coremonk22: :)
[08:21] <Agent_bob> drewbenn why do you want to know ?
[08:21] <PurpZeY> glassd: I was hoping it could just be kill && kill...I am new to scripting...but I am already calling two scripts...I just thought it would be less bloated that way
[08:21] <jmdc> drewbenn: its somewhat different than windows. The easiest thing is to right click on applications and choose edit menues
[08:21] <jmdc> menus*
[08:21] <drewbenn> just curious, I want to understand where & how things are.... 'path' is a handful of 'bin' and 'sbin' directories.
[08:21] <yigal> glassd: you want to kill scripts so what is the problem?
[08:21] <zaatar_> how can i remove all the folders called .svn and their contents in the current directory?
[08:21] <Agent_bob> drewbenn generally speeking, there is nothing outside of the users $HOME that concerns them.
[08:22] <jmdc> drewbenn: I think some people misunderstood you
[08:22] <yigal> zaatar_: rm -r *.svn
[08:22] <drewbenn> jmdc I think so, too :)  I'm not specifically tring to edit the menu, just learn _where_ it is... there are a _lot_ of . directories in my home dir, so still trying to figure out what they all are & why.
[08:22] <yigal> zaatar_: or filter for .svn with nautilus and delete them graphically?
[08:23] <mistone> drewbenn: um the top right corner of your screen
[08:23] <mistone> it says applications
[08:23] <yigal> zaatar_: there are a million ways
[08:23] <glassd> PurpZeY: what i'm trying to say is that i think the code linked to the shortcut is scripting, so it should work
[08:23] <mistone> it says applicatinos
[08:23] <mistone> right there
[08:23] <mistone> you don't have to go scrunging around your drive :P
[08:23] <Doomguy0505> Anyone know why apt-get update hangs here?
[08:23] <drewbenn> Yes, I know :) I can run everything through that 'Applications' menu... I just want to know _where_ those shortcuts (assuming they are links of some sort) are stored.
[08:23] <Doomguy0505> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Packages
[08:23] <Doomguy0505> 99% [Waiting for headers] 
[08:24] <Agent_bob> drewbenn oh the crap in ~/.????   yeah.  most of what's hidden is hidden for a reason too.
[08:24] <mistone> drewbenn: I have been using ubuntu for a year and I never needed to know
[08:24] <yigal> mistone: that's amazing
[08:24] <mistone> I mean its somewhere for sure but who cares
[08:25] <drewbenn> agent_bob yeah, I know that, too :)  I've learned the hard way not to delete or move files... I just am happier when I know what & why & how.  And links inside the Applications menu seems like a straightforward way to start.
[08:25] <yigal> mistone: what kind of computer do you have to have that kind of luxury?
[08:25] <PurpZeY> glassd: Got it. . .Thanks.
[08:25] <mistone> yigal: why would you want to know that ?
[08:25] <mistone> lol  I mean
[08:25] <mistone> why would you want to know where those shortcuts are?
[08:25] <yigal> mistone: I have been using ~/.config_files since the very first day of linux?
[08:25] <mistone> haha
[08:25] <mistone> I see what you mean now
[08:25] <mistone> yea it is amazing
[08:26] <Cryx> Heya, anyone know how to change nanos charset? I have reconfigured locales and all but nano still wont show scandinavian marks as they supposed to be :(
[08:26] <mistone> I still compile stuff by hand sometimes :P
[08:26] <drewbenn> heh, I had a computer at work where I had that kind of luxury: the productivity team took care of everything and I just focused on my job; now I have a linux machien at home and want to know a _little_ about the things they used to take care of for me.
[08:26] <yigal> Cryx: ya, use Vim :)
[08:26] <Agent_bob> drewbenn if there is something specific you want to know, seeing that your questions has been answered several ways, and by several people; just ask.
[08:26] <mistone> drewbenn: your thinking about it backwords, figure out what you want to do, then find ways to do it
[08:26] <mjbrooks> drew, it's probably under ~/.gnome or ~/.local
[08:27] <drewbenn> okay, question still is: 'applications' seems to be a folder somewhere, with a bunch of subfolders, each with several links.  Where would that folder be located?  In my home dir? elsewhere? what would it be called?
[08:27] <vishalrao> hello. any chance of work/support for tablet pc's and their touchscreens and fingerprint readers? i have a new hp pavilion tx1302au and i got wireless and touchscreen working with commandline tinkering. still researching possibilities for the authentec aes1610 fingerprint reader :)
[08:27] <chuy_max> is there some way to load a 2.6.15 kernel module in 2.6.20 kernel?
[08:27] <mistone> drewbenn, all that stuff is gnome
[08:27] <Agent_bob> drewbenn /usr/share   maybe.
[08:27] <drewbenn> ...doesnt appear to be under ~/.gnome.
[08:27] <yigal> vishalrao: I would like to know if you get fingerprint detection working
[08:28] <jmdc> drewbenn: its not actually a folder of links, its created by reading in a few files.
[08:28] <mistone> drewbenn: seriously who cares, if you were using windows you wouldn't care
[08:28] <vishalrao> yigal: i've got some links off google to start reading on. will work on it this week. doesnt look too good tho :)
[08:28] <drewbenn> (I'm still new enough to linux on the desktop that I don't know _where_ to look for these files, yet: .gnome doesn't spring to mind immediately, yet)
[08:28] <Agent_bob> drewbenn also.   /usr/lib/gnome*  maybe.
[08:28] <mistone> learning how the kernel works is a decent use of your time maybe
[08:28] <drewbenn> jmdc, thanks, useful information: a different way of thinking.
[08:29] <mistone> where the menu icons are, not at all....
[08:29] <mistone> brb going to try e17
[08:29] <yigal> vishalrao: there are several areas where linux is just not there yet, for instance voice recognition but with enough time and a little effort - good luck :)
[08:29] <jmdc> drewbenn: It took me a long time to figure that out too.
[08:29] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[08:29] <yigal> atul: do you also want 2.1 installed?
[08:30] <jmdc> drewbenn: I still don't really understand where it all comes from, and have accepted it as magic. If I really want to edit the menu, I can always right click on it and say "edit menus" but now I am curious, and I'm digging around looking for the relevant file.
[08:30] <drewbenn> soooo, ummm... where would this magic file be located?   Is it a collection of files, or one master file?
[08:31] <mjbrooks> drewb: it's one file
[08:31] <jmdc> drewbenn: I think the design is to have several files, one for the whole system, and then user customization files on top, but let me look around a bit
[08:31] <glassd> yay, time to install the update
[08:31] <glassd> bbl
[08:31] <Agent_bob> there is an infonode for the file system higherarchy    if someone knows the bot call....
[08:31] <oriana> MasterShrek - What's a good gui file manager for Ubuntu?
[08:32] <Agent_bob> oriana gentoo
[08:32] <Agent_bob> oriana well maybe not for you.   :)
[08:32] <oriana> gentoo - funny
[08:32] <drewbenn> jmdc - magic's certainly okay :) ... until I try to figure out that piece of magic! Then I want to know the trick!  That's where I am with 'Applications'... starting small....
[08:33] <henfon> hi there
[08:33] <Agent_bob> oriana you don't like it ?   it is a gui file manager you know
[08:33] <Agent_bob> !info gentoo | oriana
[08:33] <ubotu> oriana: gentoo: a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.55-1.1 (feisty), package size 764 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[08:33] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:33] <jmdc> drewbenn: exactly. And I'm glad you're interested, because its providing a push to learn something thats been in the back of my mind a long time
[08:34] <oriana> sorry thought u were talking about Gentoo Linux os
[08:34] <MasterShrek> oriana, depends on if you are using gnome, kde, etc
[08:34] <oriana> gnome
[08:34] <drewbenn> cheers, jmdc :)
[08:34] <MasterShrek> oriana, nautilus i spose
[08:34] <Agent_bob> oriana yeah,  i like to squeeze that one in on people that don't know about gentoo file manager  :)
[08:35] <neo_satellite> hi, everybody
[08:35] <ianm_> anyone have a public DNS server ip they can give me?
[08:35] <oriana> kool - thats all i needed - used to to konquer in kde - easy to get around - one these days will become better at terminal use
[08:35] <mjbrooks> drew  I'm running KDE, but I believe your looking for the /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu file which.. if I recall is an XML document that lists the menu structure in GNOME since 2.8 methinks
[08:36] <oriana> thx - mastershrek
[08:36] <Agent_bob> so i have a keyboard that the ctrl keys don't work(inside of X) unless i reset the keyboard with the magic sysRQ key combo,   can anyone help me with this ?
[08:36] <mjbrooks> drew, and I recall there's a corresponiding spot for .dierctory files at /usr/share/gnome/vfolders/
[08:36] <drewbenn> mjbrooks, yes, that looks like it has the menus, great starting point, thanks!
[08:37] <mjbrooks> =D
[08:37] <Felosis> ianm_ 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
[08:37] <drewbenn> hmm, no 'vfolders' subdir there, but still plenty to search for, thanks mjbrooks!
[08:38] <ianm_> Felosis: thanks!
[08:38] <Felosis> ianm_ np =)
[08:38] <Agent_bob> drewbenn notice that most of the .desktop files are just launchers for the executables in the  /usr/*bin/ dirs...
[08:39] <Agent_bob> keyboard ...  anyone ?
[08:39] <mjbrooks> ?
[08:39] <Agent_bob> so i have a keyboard that the ctrl keys don't work(inside of X) unless i reset the keyboard with the magic sysRQ key combo,   can anyone help me with this ?
[08:39] <drewbenn> Agent_bob -- '.desktop' files in where?
[08:40] <Felosis> Agent_bob what kind of keyboard is it, is it a laptop keyboard, desktop, usb, ps/2
[08:40] <mjbrooks> drew, $ locate *.desktop
[08:40] <Agent_bob> drewbenn i'm not so familear with gnome.   in kde i'd say  /usr/lib/kde/  but i think  /usr/share/gnome/ something....
[08:40] <Agent_bob> Felosis 102k ps2
[08:41] <crolle17> i installed openvpn-package. and now i want to configure the my_open_vpn.conf which information of the server do i need?
[08:41] <drewbenn> ah... is 'locate' the bash-equivalent of ksh's whence?  Or some super-'find'?  It found a _lot_ of *.desktop files.
[08:41] <JohnRobert> how can I find my cpu temperature?
[08:41] <abhibera> how do i get all gstreamer packages?
[08:41] <Agent_bob> drewbenn no i think that would be   where blah
[08:41] <abhibera> !gstreamer
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <JohnRobert> !cputemp
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cputemp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <yigal> drewbenn: I believe locate is uses find and a database to catalog all the files on the hd
[08:42] <Felosis> Agent_bob ok so just a generic ps2 keyboard, you might want to take a look at xorg.conf or the xorg reconfig tool and see if your keyboard is set correctly since you shouldnt have to do anything special to get it to work
[08:42] <rhetoric> john robert you might look into installing lmsensors
[08:42] <Agent_bob> JohnRobert cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[08:42] <crolle17> !openvpn
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openvpn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <drewbenn> yigal cool, thanks!
[08:42] <rhetoric> or what bob said :)
[08:43] <Agent_bob> Felosis correct.  go on.
[08:43] <JohnRobert> ta Agent_bob
[08:43] <JohnRobert> at what temp should I start worrying
[08:43] <Agent_bob> np JohnRobert
[08:43] <JohnRobert> temperature:             63 C
[08:43] <Agent_bob> 70c
[08:43] <JohnRobert> it's an ibm thinkpad
[08:43] <mjbrooks> John  see any flames?  no  dont' worry   yes  worry   ;)
[08:44] <crolle17> lol
[08:44] <Irreducibilis> 70c ?!
[08:44] <Agent_bob> yes about 70c start worring
[08:44] <Felosis> Agent_bob other then doing that there is nothing else i could think of, you dont have another kb or another pc you can test it on, maybe one with windows so we can see if its a linux problem or just a hardware issue
[08:44] <trogdor> what up my homies
[08:44] <Irreducibilis> Do you really want to run it to the point of plastic melting?
[08:44] <JohnRobert> what's hot to a human isn't necessarily hot to a pc
[08:44] <Felosis> hehe 70c, WOW!
[08:44] <mjbrooks> boiling an egg on your CPU brings the temp down and provides the user with a tasty and healthy snack
[08:44] <Felosis> thats 158 F
[08:44] <trogdor> Agent_bob: what's the prob?
[08:45] <JohnRobert> unless you're touching said cpu
[08:45] <JohnRobert> lol, Fahrenheit
[08:45] <Agent_bob> trogdor the keyboard [ctrl]  only works in console  not in X
[08:45] <Irreducibilis> Trogdor was a man. I mean, he was a dragon man. Or maybe he was just a dragon. But he was still TROGDOR!! *plays frets*
[08:45] <Irreducibilis> :)
[08:46] <trogdor> Agent_bob: there are some keyboard hooks such as "ctrl alt backspace" to restart X and many others, perhaps that file for you is corrupted or has wrong settings
[08:46] <Agent_bob> trogdor it's the ctrl+alt+<anything>  that i need to work.   specificlly f#
[08:46] <Tr0gd0r> wow another trogdor
[08:46] <Tr0gd0r> how dare he
[08:47] <Irreducibilis> Another dragon! eek!
[08:47] <mistone> e17 is not worth using
[08:47] <mistone> compiz+gnome is better
[08:47] <Agent_bob> trogdor i can reset to Xlate and it works but that makes a screen shot each time...
[08:47] <Felosis> brb
[08:47] <davemlinux1> How do i fix the logout sound on ubuntu 7.10 since doesnt play when i logout or shutdown?
[08:47] <mistone> but those picture menubars are awesome :P
[08:47] <trogdor> Agent_bob: screen shot?
[08:47] <Agent_bob> yeah.
[08:47] <davemlinux1> I when to sounds but doesnt work
[08:48] <LordLimecat> hey, i was running nvidia-glx-new, and attempted an update to nvidias recent binary 100.14.19 driver, and things havent gone perfectly :\ trying to figure out how to get it to work, can anyone help me out?
[08:48] <trogdor> davemlinux1: perhaps wrong sound file, try wav file or something
[08:48] <Lunz> what is the default resolution for splash?
[08:48] <drizzyt> can anyone tell me where to find a pdf manual for ubuntu?
[08:48] <mistone> drizzyt: that would be a bigass manual :P
[08:49] <mjbrooks> !gutsy > davelinux1
[08:49] <mistone> just google specific things you want
[08:49] <Agent_bob> trogdor you do know about alt+sysRQ+R   or am i talking to the wrong fellow still ?
[08:49] <moose> HELLO CAN SOMEONE HELP ME!
[08:49] <mjbrooks> !ask
[08:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:49] <Irreducibilis> moose: HI MR. CAPSY LOCKE!
[08:49] <mistone> caps lock is cruise control for awesome
[08:49] <yigal> davemlinux1: that is one problem I have found, GNOME doesn't really do sounds right that is one place where KDE is far superior IMO
[08:49] <Flannel> drizzyt: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/  7.04 doesn't have a PDF version I don't believe.  But it would be at help.ubuntu.com if it were.
[08:50] <davemlinux1> I did sound-sounds-enable (esd),play system sounds-logout it is check on logout
[08:50] <LordLimecat> noone can help with my driver issue? :(
[08:50] <[chr0n0s] > LordLimecat : driver of ?
[08:50] <yigal> davemlinux1: I have the same problem right now
[08:50] <LordLimecat> nvidia
[08:50] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Perhaps reverting to a previous driver?
[08:50] <mjbrooks> !nvidia
[08:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <Irreducibilis> I use 93.6x
[08:50] <LordLimecat> well, im not sure quite how to remove the new driver
[08:50] <trogdor> Agent_bob: that isn't one of those keys handled by the X server though
[08:50] <LordLimecat> or if its installed :\
[08:51] <moose> MY ATI CARD WON'T WORK IN UBUNTUS, BUT WORKS IN ARCH LINUX
[08:51] <moose> WHY IS THIS
[08:51] <Irreducibilis> Well I know windows lets you roll back drivers....
[08:51] <moose> ARCH LINUX IS FASTER
[08:51] <mistone> lol
[08:51] <mistone> hahaha
[08:51] <mistone> UBUNTUS
[08:51] <trogdor> Agent_bob: on some distros ctrl alt delete restarts system but its usually blocked because of windows noobs. Try googling that fact and finding the config file for ubuntu
[08:51] <mistone> awesome
[08:51] <LordLimecat> Irreducibilis: not if a driver install gets stuck halfway
[08:51] <riotkittie> for tha same reason your caps lock key doesnt work in ubuntus, one assumes, moose
[08:51] <Tr0gd0r> //echo $asc(C)
[08:51] <mistone> I am totalling using that
[08:51] <[chr0n0s] > i have a USB hard drive.. and it has 2 partitions... when i plug it in.. it mounts both partitions.. how do i stop that from happening ?
[08:51] <mjbrooks> mistone  ;)
[08:51] <yigal> moose: UBUNTU ROCKS
[08:51] <Irreducibilis> MR. CAPSY LOCKE: I HAVE NO CLUE, MAYBE YOU SHOULD FIX THE DRIVERS.
[08:51] <mistone> its like internets
[08:51] <mjbrooks> TUBES!!
[08:52] <drewbenn> heh, another silly beginner question: I want to run a file IN MY UBUNTUS from a terminal as if I double-clicked it in a file browser window... is there a shell command (ubuntu/gnome) that will open it with the 'correct' associated application (as in windows' 'start' or mac os x's 'open')?
[08:52] <riotkittie> [chr0n0s] : are those partitions in fstab? if so, edit the one you dont want out
[08:52] <mjbrooks> lol  drwe
[08:52] <moose> MY NAME IS MOOSE, NOT CAPSY LOCKE
[08:52] <Lunz> yigal:ubuntu very cool..
[08:52] <Agent_bob> trogdor sounds like the bums rush.   here's your coat, and here's your hat; now what's your hurry....
[08:52] <moose> PLUS ITS LOCK RIGHT?
[08:52] <Irreducibilis> LOCKE IS MORE OF A "NAME" THAN THE OBJECT.
[08:52] <riotkittie> moose: it's obnoxious, so please stop
[08:52] <[chr0n0s] > riotkittie : nope they are not
[08:52] <moose> i laughter as well
[08:53] <[chr0n0s] > riotkittie : it's a USB hard drive..
[08:53] <mjbrooks> drew  depends on what file you are opening and with what
[08:53] <Irreducibilis> You.... *verb = infinitive* as well?
[08:53] <riotkittie> [chr0n0s] : i got that :P
[08:53] <moose> my usb doesnt work so graphics is messed up?
[08:53] <moose> fps is slow with ati
[08:53] <moose> maybe i need nvidias driver
[08:53] <moose> NO?
[08:53] <drewbenn> mjbrooks - any file, I want it to open as if I navigated to the directory (slowly) with the 'file browser' and then double-clicked on it.  Is there something that will do that?
[08:53] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, support for opening files from the CL is provided by the app itself
[08:53] <Irreducibilis> Its like in french when someone says "Je parler" .... "I to speak?"
[08:54] <yigal> moose: calm down everything will work
[08:54] <riotkittie> [chr0n0s] : you are using ubuntu, right? [as opposed to (x/k)ubuntu] 
[08:54] <moose> JE PARLE
[08:54] <crdlb> moose, you can't use nvidia's driver with an ATI card...
[08:54] <moose> IS IT I THINK
[08:54] <moose> I USE THE ATI DRIVER
[08:54] <[chr0n0s] > riotkittie : yup ubuntu fiesty
[08:54] <moose> BUT DONT WORK WELL ON LINUX
[08:54] <crdlb> moose, stop that
[08:54] <Irreducibilis> moose: Ah, Tu parles francais bien?
[08:54] <yigal> moose: is this like Descarte, "IS IT I THINK" ?
[08:54] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, Assuming it's an executab;e file, just type the name of the app, but you may need the path as well
[08:54] <[chr0n0s] > !caps | moose
[08:54] <ubotu> moose: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:55] <moose> UBUNTUS IS funny and fiesty
[08:55] <moose> what is shout?
[08:55] <drewbenn> Moose just a hint... typing in all caps is a good way to annoy people, please don't.
[08:55] <moose> i use capslock not shout
[08:55] <Irreducibilis> moose: Est-ce que tu habite?
[08:55] <[chr0n0s] > caps == shout
[08:55] <app_> Greeting from our Linux basics course!
[08:55] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, if it's a document, you may have to call the file as an argument to the program you want to open it with
[08:55] <moose> caps is shout in america
[08:55] <Agent_bob> drewbenn executable files can be executed in a termenal with   ./filename
[08:55] <moose> why is this
[08:55] <[chr0n0s] > it's everywhere
[08:55] <moose> i use it so i can see me talk in room
[08:56] <moose> otherwise small letter all looks the same
[08:56] <yigal> moose: you should use a special color for your name
[08:56] <Flannel> moose: Please take the non-support chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[08:56] <mjbrooks> moose, do you forget what you say often?
[08:56] <drewbenn> Okay thanks, mjbrooks.  Coming from my Mac & Windows backgrounds, there is a command to open a file "as if you double-clicked it" in each OS's shell ('open' in mac; 'start' in MS).
[08:56] <Agent_bob> drewbenn shell scripts that are not set executable   can be executed with    bash ./filename
[08:56] <[chr0n0s] > drewbenn : you got that working ?
[08:56] <trogdor> drewbenn: use exec or the path to the file to do that
[08:56] <[chr0n0s] > open filename.pdf works ?
[08:56] <moose> it's ok, i sudo sued into my x86 business, updated the drivers and got the thing working
[08:57] <webwiz> msg nickserv ID zoa1r4
[08:57] <moose> no thanks to you guys
[08:57] <moose> geeze
[08:57] <yigal> drewbenn: or set the PATH variable to include the working directory "."
[08:57] <LordLimecat> well now restricted-driver-manager doesnt think i NEED drivers :\
[08:57] <riotkittie> [chr0n0s] : what i would do is go to Preferences > Removable Drives and Media [or wahtever it is under Feisty] , Storage > turn off mount removable hard drives when hot-plugged. then copy your fstab to fstab.old, and edit the original to mount the one partition you do want mounted
[08:57] <drewbenn> Yes, I know how to execute a file :) sorry I'm not being clear... I want to, say, open a .txt file in the default text editor; or open an .html file in the default web browser, or open the default ".NNN" file in the default "NNN" application.
[08:57] <magnetron> what CLI web browsers supports JavaScript?
[08:57] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Restricted driver manager is teh-suxzors.
[08:57] <Flannel> drewbenn: there is one for linux too (well, its window manager specific).  I don't remember what it is however.
[08:57] <LordLimecat> please dont link me to that article, btw, ive read it and wouldnt be here if i didnt need real help :\
[08:57] <trogdor> magnetron: perhaps links2?
[08:57] <LordLimecat> Irreducibilis: do you have a suggestion?
[08:57] <Agent_bob> drewbenn  other types of scripts with their respective shell     perl ./blah.pl       python ./blah.py     and so on...
[08:58] <LordLimecat> my goal is to remove all traces of the old driver and install the new one :\
[08:58] <magnetron> trogdor: trying... having trouble using it
[08:58] <Flannel> drewbenn: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/12/16/gnome-open-open-anything-from-the-command-line/
[08:58] <drewbenn> okay, I think the answer to my question is, "No, it can't be done." :)
[08:58] <LordLimecat> last time i did sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new and installed the new one, but that didnt really work
[08:58] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Using an easier distro of linux, or just WinXP if that suits your needs.
[08:58] <riotkittie> magnetron: i thiiiiiiiink elinks does but i am not 100%. i would go through all the ones i have installed and let you know, but i am feeling fairly lazy.
[08:58] <trogdor> magnetron: there is w3m and links original too
[08:58] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, it can, but it is more specific thatn just an open call
[08:58] <undoy> need help why my windows xp machine cant see the share folder?
[08:58] <moose> I SAW IN WEBSITE EMERGE WORLD. I USE EMERGE WORLD IN TERMINAL BUT DOENS'T WORK. why is this?
[08:58] <[chr0n0s] > riotkittie : thanks.. i think that will do, will check when i get my hard drive back
[08:58] <LordLimecat> Irreducibilis: thanks, except i wouldnt be in #ubuntu if i dint want to use ubuntu linux
[08:58] <trogdor> magnetron: think dillo might have a cli option
[08:59] <Flannel> !ops | moose
[08:59] <ubotu> moose: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[08:59] <[chr0n0s] > undoy : you got smaba installed ?
[08:59] <Flannel> LordLimecat: you might be interested in that link as well.
[08:59] <undoy> share folder can be seen by other linux pc
[08:59] <[chr0n0s] > undoy : i suggest use ssh, simpler
[08:59] <riotkittie> for the love of god, i wish people would stop trolling.
[08:59] <Irreducibilis> I wish trolls would stop ogreing too.
[08:59] <undoy> yes samba installed
[08:59] <tkooda> anyone got any guess why I still get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" after using `apt-ftparchive` (made Packages{,.bz2,.gz} and Release{,.gpg} files; and have signing key in `apt-key list`) to make a simple apt source?  -it's like it's seeing (and fetching) my gpg, but ignoring it??
[08:59] <Agent_bob> drewbenn what file are you trying to execute ?
[09:00] <LordLimecat> Flannel: im not clear on how this is relevant?
[09:00] <Agent_bob> riotkittie not gonna happen tho.
[09:00] <Flannel> LordLimecat: it opens the thing as if he were opening it via gnome, just like he's asking to accomplish.
[09:00] <Amaranth> tkooda: you have to use apt-key to add your key
[09:00] <tkooda> it sees the Package.gz and the Release, but dosn't seem to match the key
[09:00] <app_> Boy this Ubuntu is difficult for a Windows person!
[09:00] <LordLimecat> ah....but im trying to install a driver?
[09:00] <tkooda> Amaranth, the key IS in my `apt-key list`
[09:00] <drewbenn> Flannel thanks, that is what I was looking for!   mjbrooks yes, I know :) I'm looking for a generic, 'open anything as if I double-clicked it, without knowing the location of the program'   Agent_bob: "anything"
[09:00] <jroyer> just for the record, links2 seems to have a support for Javascript but not so great: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37036
[09:00] <Amaranth> tkooda: oh, you said that
[09:00] <riotkittie> Agent_bob: i know, i know
[09:00] <Amaranth> tkooda: dunno then
[09:00] <tkooda> yah
[09:00] <Agent_bob> tkooda you don't have the gpg key for that repo
[09:01] <Irreducibilis> app_: I agree....
[09:01] <undoy> ok ill try ssh, tyvm
[09:01] <riotkittie> app_: you will get the hang of it eventually, if you are patient  ;)
[09:01] <tkooda> Agent_bob, `gpg --gen-key && --export --armor`
[09:01] <Agent_bob> drewbenn i told you that,    ./filename
[09:01] <[chr0n0s] > new ubuntu will be available as torrent download .. i hope
[09:01] <Irreducibilis> Especially when one is like me, who uses windows more than linux, and having to remember the procedures for both
[09:01] <Flannel> LordLimecat: Sorry, maybe I misread something and you're not the one who was talking with him
[09:01] <trogdor> drewbenn: sometimes you need execution privileges so do chmod +x program
[09:01] <tkooda> Agent_bob, I don't think that's the case?  -how can I confirm?
[09:01] <riotkittie> partitioning makes me a sad panda. D:
[09:02] <LordLimecat> incidentally, Irreducibilis, its not that windows is easier, its that due to shady practices, drivers have become closed, and hard to maintain.  Their performance has suffered, and hence i have to live on the bleeding edge to get decent performance out of my graphics card.  Using windows would be a slap in the face, since 95% of my woes in ubuntu have been caused by windows practices
[09:02] <drewbenn> Aget_bob... yes, that works for executables... I want to open, for example, a .txt file in the default Gnome text editor.  gnome-open (as I just learned) did that.
[09:02] <Agent_bob> tkooda the error message in apt's output  should confirm it.
[09:02] <LordLimecat> but thank you for suggesting i use windows in a linux chat, go troll somewhere else please
[09:02] <Avariel> quick question...will i have to reinstall linux if i want to use 7.10 ? i currently have feisty 7.4
[09:02] <mjbrooks> fsck windows and their lousy drivers
[09:02] <Avariel> ubuntu i mean*
[09:02] <Flannel> Avariel: no.  you're able to upgrade
[09:02] <[chr0n0s] > Avariel : you can upgrade
[09:03] <[chr0n0s] > !upgrade | Avariel
[09:03] <ubotu> Avariel: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:03] <Agent_bob> drewbenn see that's the problem.   you say one thing but mean another.    gedit /path/to/blah
[09:03] <Avariel> so its just like a system update from the package manager ?
[09:03] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Not quite trolling, I am merely trying to find a balence.
[09:03] <drewbenn> Avariel, on Thursday, 7.10 should appear automagically in your update program
[09:03] <Flannel> Avariel: sorta yeah.
[09:03] <Avariel> awesome
[09:03] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Rather than taking one side, black or white, light or dark, I prefer to see things in shades of grey and arbitrate as a neutral user who uses both.
[09:03] <[chr0n0s] > Avariel : this is ubuntu. it is awesome ;)
[09:03] <LordLimecat> well, so far ive only seen you bash ubuntu, its components, and suggest windows, and thats not really helpful.  I would call that trolling
[09:04] <LordLimecat> regardless, its off topic, and if you dont have advice, telling me a component sucks is just chatter
[09:04] <Aviel> hey all
[09:04] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Don't get me wrong, Ubuntu has a lot of advantages over windows, I will admit...
[09:04] <Aviel> i need help plz
[09:04] <Agent_bob> drewbenn if not in a gui  the text based editor is  nano
[09:04] <alpha>  Hello - Where is wallpaper folder ubuntu gnome?
[09:04] <drewbenn> Agent_bob yes, I know, I couldn't figure out how to say it properly: I wanted a generic program that opens _any_ file, "as if I double-clicked it" -- e.g. a .txt file opens with 'gedit', a .pdf opens with whatever/is/the/path/to/acrobat, an .htm opens with /whatever/is/the/path/to/firefox, etc.
[09:04] <tkooda> Agent_bob, the error message is just "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! ... Install these packages without verification [y/N] "..  there is only the single key in the keyring..  I exported via `gpg --export --armor` and imported via `apt-key add - < file.gpg`, and `apt-key list` shows* the key in there??
[09:04] <Aviel> can some 1 help me with my server?
[09:04] <Avariel> see i think if it was easy/automatic to install drivers then windows would be screwed with the opensource linux
[09:05] <Flannel> !ask | Aviel
[09:05] <ubotu> Aviel: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:05] <Aviel> ok
[09:05] <Aviel> hmm
[09:05] <[chr0n0s] > Avariel : i think driver install are much better than old days
[09:05] <drewbenn> Avariel I agree, I still haven't gotten my wireless working!! linux is more difficult, but has different payoffs than unix....
[09:05] <drewbenn> err, "than windows," even
[09:05] <Agent_bob> drewbenn run-mailcap blah  would be about as close as you get....   you are asking the terminal to do what several applications are doing within the gui    not likely to happen.
[09:05] <[chr0n0s] > drewbenn : which wireless cards ?
[09:06] <Aviel> i have here AMD64 Server and i install linux and it not reconize my network driver
[09:06] <Flannel> Agent_bob: It exists, thats what hes trying to tell you.  It's called gnome-open
[09:06] <Avariel> yeah i screwed it up when i tried installing my graphics card
[09:06] <tkooda> Agent_bob, do I need to do anything aside from `gpg --gen-key && gpg --export --armor |apt-key add -` to get the archive key in my keyring?
[09:06] <alpha> Where is desktop wallpaper folder in ubutu?
[09:06] <Avariel> had to reinstall linux
[09:06] <Agent_bob> drewbenn i "might" be able to write a script that would do that.  but i see no reason to.
[09:06] <Aviel> supermicro server
[09:06] <Avariel> my screen suddenly went black when i switched the resolution and it never came back !
[09:06] <drewbenn> ipw3945 on 7.04 feisty, everyone says "it should just work," and i've tried just about every thread under the sun on ubuntu-forums, still no joy :(
[09:06] <Aviel> ?
[09:06] <jmdc> drewbenn: I found out more about menus. /usr/share/applications contains many .desktop files. These create the menu items, and have lots of metadata and translations and stuff in them. Apparently, there is typically one .desktop file per menu item. So I was wrong about the multiple entries per file thing. Anyway, the menus are created out of those files (and probably could be created out of others too, if you told it to) by using a .menu file. .
[09:06] <Aviel> what to do
[09:07] <drewbenn> Agent_Bob, 'open-gnome' did what I want, as Flannel said.  It's exactly what I wanted!
[09:07] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, that's FUD bull... linux isn't harder than windows, you'd have just as much trouble on windows if the XP driver was broken for your wireless card
[09:07] <Agent_bob> tkooda that i don't know.   i'm not the man to ask about gpg.   only i recognized the error message.
[09:07] <MidnighToker> i do a lot of remote maintainance and am looking for a tool to display `wall` messages to using running X
[09:07] <drewbenn> Wow, thanks jmdc!
[09:07] <tkooda> do keys in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg need to be signed by something (anything?) in order to be used by apt?
[09:07] <drewbenn> mjbrooks I agree.. there's just more usuers on windows, so "my driver is broken on windows" gets more attention, faster, than "my driver is broken on linux"....
[09:08] <tkooda> anyone got any suggestions on where to get help for /etc/apt/trusted.gpg ?
[09:08] <Agent_bob> drewbenn you mean only within gnome-terminal  you want that ?    cause that wont work in a console.    i'm sorry if we aren't communicating well here.
[09:08] <drewbenn> (well, more appropriately, "gets more attentions, faster *from the driver's manufacturer*")
[09:08] <Avariel> oh how do i address my response to someone ? do i click on their name or is there a keyboard thing ?
[09:08] <[chr0n0s] > how do i search in aptitude install base ?
[09:08] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, that too is a crap argument.... there is much more community support for linux than there is for windows
[09:08] <jmdc> drewbenn: also, did you see the comment about gnome-open? if not, gnome-open file does the right thing for you from the command line
[09:08] <MidnighToker> Avariel:  most irc clients support tab completion of names
[09:09] <drewbenn> Agent_bob, yes, I'm not communicating well.  I'm still on my first ubuntu distro -- haven't gotten to installing kde yet -- so, 'within gnome-terminal' is apparently what I needed.
[09:09] <drewbenn> mjbrooks I also agree - I'
[09:09] <Avariel> MidnighToker: oh i see
[09:09] <MidnighToker> Avariel:  xchat/mirc as default, not sure about others
[09:09] <drewbenn> ve gotten a lot of support within the linux community.
[09:09] <MidnighToker> Avariel:  there ya go :)
[09:09] <LordLimecat> if i want all traces of nvidia driver removed, do i need to remove nvidia-kernel-common?
[09:09] <Avariel> MidnighToker: thanks, xchat here
[09:09] <LordLimecat> or would that be a "bad thing"
[09:09] <MidnighToker> Avariel:  ditto :)
[09:09] <drewbenn> jmdc yes, gnome-open is doing what I want, it is exactly waht I was looking for :)
[09:10] <jmdc> alpha: there isn't a wallpaper folder. You can change backgrounds by right clicking on the desktop. Gnome remembers which wallpapers have been used in the past in the gconf registry.
[09:10] <jmdc> drewbenn: its pretty hot stuff
[09:10] <Agent_bob> drewbenn got ya.   i'll move on.   but anything else, just ask.
[09:10] <glassd> gnome-open?
[09:10] <drewbenn> Thanks, Agent_bob, for the help :)
[09:11] <[chr0n0s] > glassd : try gnome-open <filename>
[09:11] <Agent_bob> glassd file `which gnome-open`
[09:11] <jmdc> glassd: if you do gnome-open file from the cli, the file gets opened as if you double clicked in in nautilus
[09:11] <jmdc> (very hot stuff!)
[09:11] <Zweisteine> Hi, I want to recompile the kernel, I copied the config file corresponding to my running kernel from /boot into /usr/src/<new kernel>/.config. When I run make menuconfig the file is changed in a dubious manner. Am I doing something wrong?
[09:11] <glassd> handy that
[09:12] <Cryx> Heya, anyone know how to change nanos charset? I have reconfigured locales and all but nano still wont show scandinavian marks as they supposed to be :(
[09:12] <rredd4> can i get cube effects with a nvidia geforce 2 card?
[09:12] <glassd> Zweisteine: i don't think you need to run a config install if you have a config already
[09:12] <Agent_bob> Zweisteine if you copy the config  why generate another one ?   or am i missing something ?
[09:12] <jmdc> cryx: I checked the docs when you asked a while back, and they say if your terminal and local support it, it will use UTF-8.
[09:12] <mjbrooks> !kernel | Zweisteine
[09:12] <ubotu> Zweisteine: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[09:13] <jmdc> Cryx: which terminal are you using?
[09:13] <multidex> how do i run a .sh file?  i want to install jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh
[09:13] <Cryx> bash
[09:13] <jmdc> Cryx: that's your shell
[09:13] <Agent_bob> multidex  bash jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh
[09:13] <jmdc> Cryx: are you using xterm, gnome-terminal?
[09:14] <drewbenn> mjbrooks...  I agree that there is a _lot_ of community support, and in fact i've been availing myself of it, but I'm still in the "wireless doesn't 'just work' camp."  I am beginning to think that it might even be a hardware problem, in which case the MS support side couldn't help me either :), but it still elaves me with "my first home *nix wireless didn't work out of the box."  So, I am left with --from my experience-- "linux is
[09:14] <drewbenn> more difficult than windows."  (very subjective, I know)
[09:14] <multidex> thank you agent
[09:14] <jmdc> multidex: you may have to add execute permissions first
[09:14] <glassd> do people actualy use anything other then bash nowadays?
[09:14] <jmdc> thats chmod u+x FILE
[09:14] <Agent_bob> glassd dash
[09:14] <jmdc> glassd: mostly its just legacy code
[09:15] <glassd> dash?
[09:15] <drewbenn> glassd, switching to ksh, to match my work environment, is low on my priority list, but I'll get there, eventually.
[09:15] <Zweisteine> glassd, Agent_bob: I would like to modify a configuration option, but keep the rest as they are.
[09:15] <Agent_bob> glassd bash is bloated.   dash is a posix compliant shell
[09:15] <mjbrooks> glassd, my shell is set at random on bootup  ')
[09:15] <Zweisteine> mjbrooks, Thank you for the link, I will read it
[09:15] <yigal> Agent_bob: what desktop manager do you use?
[09:15] <glassd> mjbrooks: that must get anoying...
[09:15] <drewbenn> mjbrooks, that sure must make life interesting!
[09:15] <jmdc> Cryx: did you just start the terminal from the applications menu?
[09:15] <mjbrooks> glassd, nah... it's fun
[09:16] <multidex> it's for dapper and i'm runing feisty, so i get the error "This script only applies to ubuntu 6.06
[09:16] <Agent_bob> yigal desktop manager ?  heh  console user here mate.
[09:16] <glassd> Zweisteine: try a make gconf
[09:16] <glassd> or menuconfig if your using kde
[09:16] <yigal> Agent_bob: ok, well then at least your not a hypocrite :)
[09:16] <glassd> no...
[09:16] <glassd> ack
[09:16] <Agent_bob> yigal i try.   thanks.
[09:16] <glassd> i forget the qt gui config option
[09:17] <Cryx> putty :P
[09:17] <glassd> uh no...
[09:18] <Ashex> What's the easiest way to get the video file info through command-line?
[09:18] <Zweisteine> glassd, I'm using gnome. gconf doesn't work. xconfig needs QT
[09:18] <Agent_bob> Ashex maybe   file blah
[09:18] <glassd> Zweisteine: lemme look it up 1sec
[09:18] <mjbrooks> Ashex, what kind of info?
[09:18] <Zweisteine> glassd, do you think using a graphical configuration program will not overwrite my .config in a dubious manner?
[09:19] <Avariel> i heard ubuntu 7.10 will be more compatible with drivers...maybe some might just work without requiring installation..could that be so ?
[09:19] <Agent_bob> yeah and what kinda vidio file
[09:19] <glassd> Zweisteine: it's how i used to do it
[09:19] <Ashex> mjbrooks, elisa crashes when playing a video, so I just want to grab the codec info
[09:19] <Ashex> Agent_bobs suggestion worked though
[09:19] <Zweisteine> glassd, Ok, I'll install the gtk headers then
[09:20] <glassd> there is a gnome one
[09:20] <jmdc> Avariel: the new kernel will include new drivers
[09:20] <jmdc> and make some more wireless cards "just work"
[09:20] <Doomguy0505> Does anyone know how to install libflac++6 on Ubuntu? Is it even possible?
[09:20] <Agent_bob> Ashex file is pretty handy,   might want to make a note of it.
[09:21] <Ashex> Agent_bob, I'll mark it in my notepad :)
[09:21] <winchesterPAT> dell ubuntu ?
[09:21] <mjbrooks> Ashex, you mean gedit  ;)
[09:22] <Doomguy0505> The only flac++ v6 is from gutsy, which doesn't like feisty libc6
[09:22] <Zweisteine> !stages
[09:22] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Kernel gets updated in stages.  If you have the updated kernel, but do not have the corresponding restricted modules, you may be leaving yourself with no X when you reboot.  If you have compiled binary versions of your video driver, eg from the nVidia site, you will need to recompile them for the new kernel.  This is normal, and not a bug.
[09:22] <winchesterPAT> whats the meaning o G in edit ?
[09:22] <glassd> the g prefix usualy means gnome
[09:22] <mjbrooks> the ever informed ubotu  ;)
[09:22] <winchesterPAT> do i need to reinstall my ubuntu ?
[09:23] <winchesterPAT> once the next versio comes out ?
[09:23] <Agent_bob> ok.  i'm going to swap keyboards now.   on two boxen   see if i can at least move the issue to a less used box.
[09:23] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, you can stay on that version as long as you like.
[09:23] <winchesterPAT> why ?
[09:23] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT no, you should be able to just press an 'upgrade' button to get the latest version, if you want it.
[09:24] <winchesterPAT> i shoould ?
[09:24] <winchesterPAT> do you mean i can ?
[09:24] <Agent_bob> winchesterPAT gedit ?    gnome-editor
[09:24] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, you can, if you shoose to
[09:24] <drewbenn> you will not need to _reinstall_, just let the auto-upgrade do its thing.  Again, only if you want.  If everything is working great, you don't need to change anything :)
[09:24] <winchesterPAT> were is this button ?
[09:24] <jmdc> winchesterPat: What's your question about gedit?
[09:25] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT are you asking -- do you NEED to upgrade;;;;    or is it easy to upgrade vs. do you need to format & reinstall from scratch?
[09:25] <Agent_bob> drewbenn well said.    i stick with the LTS personally.
[09:25] <mjbrooks> unless you ised Automatix, in which case things are fudged and you can't upgrade normally
[09:25] <c_imut> hy
[09:25] <winchesterPAT> should i expect troubles ?
[09:25] <drewbenn> Agent_bob I've been screwed over by too many updates, too :(
[09:26] <glassd> this is going to sound like an odd question, but is it me or do full screen videos in linux just do a standard pixel doubling method rather then a smart resize?
[09:26] <Agent_bob> i'm an "if it aint broke, don't update it!" kinda guy.
[09:26] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, did you use Automatix on that installation?
[09:26] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT I wouldn't expect any troubles, but I haven't upgraded yet, so I can't say.... that said, if things are "just working" right now, there may be no reason to upgrade.
[09:26] <Agent_bob> but this is broke.  so i'll be back          maybe....
[09:27] <Doomguy0505> Does anyone know how to install libflac++6 on Ubuntu? Is it even *possible*?
[09:27] <winchesterPAT> cant i reinstall and still keep al my stuff  ?
[09:27] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT sorry, I'm still trying to understand your original question: what were you asking about the upgrade?    It should be very simple, if you want it to be [barring that 'automatix' question] .
[09:27] <winchesterPAT> never eard about autimix
[09:27] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, it depends... is you /home on a seperate partition?
[09:27] <jmdc> winchesterPat: the update manager gives you a nice button for upgrading to the newest release. Its not always perfect. Several releases back, when the feature of "automatically" upgrading was new, there were some problems. Its been good lately though. I would go for it.
[09:27] <drewbenn> You won't need to _reinstall_, if you don't want to.  You will be able to just upgrade.  Have you gotten the upgrade manager popups, where it tells you about newer versions of software you have already installed?
[09:28] <jmdc> (Unless, as everyone else says, you used automatix (May it burn forever))
[09:28] <winchesterPAT> ok
[09:28] <winchesterPAT> automix is evil ?
[09:28] <jmdc> yes
[09:28] <mjbrooks> yes
[09:28] <ggarlic> maybe
[09:28] <mjbrooks> there is no maybe
[09:28] <winchesterPAT> whats it dor ?
[09:29] <winchesterPAT> for
[09:29] <winchesterPAT> whats automix for ?
[09:29] <drewbenn> ah, from wikipedia: "Automatix is not recommended by the Ubuntu development team"
[09:29] <jmdc> it tries to make many things work out of the box, but it is reallly reallly badly done.
[09:29] <jmdc> and it breaks things.
[09:30] <glassd> breaking things is bad
[09:30] <drewbenn> not breaking things is good
[09:30] <jmdc> back in the day, it was a pain in the neck to get mp3 support installed. Automatix did it automatically.
[09:30] <glassd> unless your breaking the seal on a new dvd or game, then it's good
[09:30] <winchesterPAT> dont you mean fixing things ?
[09:30] <mjbrooks> it's a 3rd party "blind rhinosourus" that charges through you're system destroying everything in it's path in a cludgy attempt to make your mp3s play, when all you have to do instead is simply apt-get the restricted package  :^/
[09:30] <Agent_bob> well.   it wasn't the keyboard.
[09:31] <glassd> gstreamer for the win
[09:31] <jmdc> most of the problems it tried to address have been solved
[09:31] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT I was trying to be funny, but I'm an engineer, so it doesn't usually work :)
[09:31] <tommax1083> hi, all can anyone help me on install wikimedia on ubuntu server 6.06
[09:31] <Agent_bob> my xorg.conf says 104  but i tried 101 and 102 also  same thing on all.
[09:31] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, lol   that last one about being an engineer did  ;)
[09:32] <drewbenn> :)
[09:32] <g0dd3ss> gahhhh why does firefox take soooo loooong to start up
[09:32] <mjbrooks> what's the keyboard again Agent_bob ?
[09:32] <Agent_bob> pc 102   ps/2
[09:32] <Blindraven> winchesterPAT, Just remember, opinions are opinions - Automatix has worked a GEM for alot of people aswell - just see for yourself and if you like it - great, if not, uninstall. Alot of people only dont like it because of the no-ask methods in which it installs, funnily enough, if you chose to install it chances are you didnt need to be asked duh.
[09:33] <drewbenn> g0dd3ss do you have a lot of saved tabs trying to re-open, or no tabs?
[09:33] <winchesterPAT> any one tryed new opensuse ?
[09:33] <glassd> Agent_bob: your having input problems?
[09:33] <g0dd3ss> no tabs drewbenn
[09:33] <Doomguy0505> Why doesn't Ubuntu have any libflac++ 6?
[09:33] <drewbenn> hmmm..... we may have been led astray by the automatix discussion: winchesterPAT, did you try it?  If not, we should drop that thread!
[09:33] <Agent_bob> glassd yes.  ctrl key not working in gui mode.  works fine in the console
[09:33] <jmdc> Blindraven: I really disagree. A lot of things are not set back to the way they were after an "uninstall"
[09:33] <drewbenn> g0dd3ss no ideas, sorry :(
[09:34] <g0dd3ss> oook thanks drewbenn
[09:34] <winchesterPAT> automix is good after all
[09:34] <drewbenn> sorry g0dd3ss ;)
[09:34] <Blindraven> jmdc, ye, im sure there are lots that would disagree, thats their super perogative - I'm just saying it comes down to opinion.
[09:34] <winchesterPAT> fixes mp3 play back
[09:34] <elkbuntu> winchesterPAT, this channel is for Ubuntu support only, #ubuntu-offtopic is for discussing other distros and non-support things :)
[09:34] <glassd> Agent_bob: that sounds about as random as my old acpi errors back when i used gentoo...
[09:34] <Agent_bob> !automatix | winchesterPAT
[09:34] <ubotu> winchesterPAT: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[09:34] <Doomguy0505> apt sucks
[09:34] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT - did you try it?  Or not?  You originally asked about upgrading to 7.10... Automatix will (may) affect that.
[09:35] <Blindraven> winchesterPAT, and just remember the "All knowing bot" is fed bias from a mostly bias and elitest userbase :)
[09:35] <tommax1083> anyone know a good text editor for wikimedia? thanks! :)
[09:35] <winchesterPAT> drewbenn: i call to my right to remain silent on that question
[09:35] <ipx__> 2 days :-D
[09:35] <drewbenn> ah, okay :)
[09:35] <glassd> my 7.10 beta install should get updated to final when it's out right?
[09:35] <Agent_bob> glassd hmm.  well it's hardly random.   i can switch back and forth  and each time i go into X  it has to be reset before it will work to get me out of X...
[09:35] <Blindraven> tommax1083, vim :P
[09:36] <drewbenn> I'd recommend _not_ upgrading to 7.10, in that case.  Things work for you right now, right?  Then don't try to break them.
[09:37] <Agent_bob> !worksforme | Blindraven
[09:37] <ubotu> Blindraven: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[09:37] <glassd> Agent_bob: yeah, same thing happened to me, some things wouldn't work in X but they did in the console, it was actualy an acpi problem
[09:37] <glassd> so random
[09:37] <cwgannon> well, i've got it all back to working now, but i'm not sure why it was ever not working at all ... i reinstalled compizconfig and installed emerald; both are accessible from System, Preferences menu, though CompizConfig is now Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[09:37] <Jordan_U> For some reason Neverball goes left when I tilt my laptop to the right and visa-versa, I can't find a setting to switch this back
[09:37] <drewbenn> Hey Agent_bob, are those bot commands to prevent people from discussing topics?  (I'm about 5 years behind the IRC curve, so just curious)
[09:37] <Agent_bob> glassd i assume you were running acpid  though ?
[09:38] <glassd> drewbenn: i don't know if anything is broken or not, lol that's the problem
[09:38] <Blindraven> Agent_bob, I've been in the channel for 3 years, stick the smug bot up your bumbumb
[09:38] <drewbenn> glassd, do things work for you the way you expect them to? If so, nothing is broken :)
[09:38] <Jordan_U> drewbenn, Just to save us the time of typing the same thing over and over :)
[09:38] <glassd> Agent_bob: it was a notebook, so yeah
[09:38] <Jakobsen> Hi there. I have problems getting my wireless network card to work on a Thinkpad T60 (2008-CTO). Can somebody help?
[09:38] <Agent_bob> Blindraven i'v been in the channel for 2 minutes and you cause it to stink.   </shrugs>
[09:39] <glassd> drewbenn: except for upscaled videos being really fugly, things seem fine
[09:39] <Jordan_U> Jakobsen, Do you know what chipset?
[09:39] <Blindraven> Agent_bob, bias. hushed.
[09:39] <Jakobsen> Jordan_U, that's one of the things I need help to do..
[09:39] <drewbenn> jordan_U -- I don't understand, "just to save us the time of typing the same thing over and over" -- is that in reference to my bots question? I know what bots are, I just haven't been on IRC in 5ish years so I don't know the latest l33t bot commands....
[09:40] <mjbrooks> Jakobsen, in a terminal type "lspci | grep Wireless"  without the quotes
[09:40] <drewbenn> glassd I'd be pretty happy, then :)  You could have worse problems.... read the release notes, and see if there is anything that seems to address your exact problem.
[09:40] <Agent_bob> glassd yeah i'm not running anything with X that should be causing that.  i'm satisfied that it's something in my xorg.conf   i'll look through it again.
[09:40] <Jakobsen> mjbrooks: nothing is found
[09:40] <LordLimecat> well, at this point i cannot install any nvidia binary drivers at all :\
[09:40] <Jordan_U> Jakobsen, You can check in System -> Preferences -> Hardware Information or "lspci" in a terminal
[09:41] <Jordan_U> LordLimecat, What have you tried?
[09:41] <LordLimecat> is there any chance someone could help me get them working again?
[09:41] <Jakobsen> Jordan_U, all I can get from lspci is this: "03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 0024 (rev 01)"
[09:41] <mjbrooks> ewww   1 sec
[09:41] <LordLimecat> Jordan_U: ive tried the restricted driver manager, removing nvidia-kernel-common and reinstalling, installing the nvidia run script, etc
[09:41] <glassd> drewbenn: i somehow dout that is high up on anyones list for things to look into, hehe
[09:41] <riotkittie> atheros, wee.
[09:41] <Jordan_U> Jakobsen, Have you tried System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manger?
[09:42] <LordLimecat> each time, ive verified the xorg.conf, and restarted gdm (as well as restarting system), and i get "screen cannot be found" issues
[09:42] <Jakobsen> Jordan_U: the only driver in there is my ATi driver.. I already checked
[09:42] <LordLimecat> ive had the nvidia installer rewrite the xorg too
[09:42] <Agent_bob> what if i remove everything in the keyboard section execpt the discriptor ?   will that let xorg "leave the keymap alone" ?
[09:42] <winchesterPAT> any one tryed the new opensuse ?
[09:43] <winchesterPAT> is it better then ubuntu ?
[09:43] <mjbrooks> Jakobsen, have you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972
[09:43] <LordLimecat> Jordan_U: this all started when i installed the nvidia driver from nvidias site without removing nvidia-glx-new.  I later uninstalled the nvidia official one, and removed nvidia-glx-new, reverted to nv, and tried again. Nothing seems to work at this point
[09:43] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, nope it is not
[09:43] <winchesterPAT> why ?
[09:43] <alecwh> I'm using a dell latitude D630, and I'm having problems connecting with my school's WPA network. All my friend's macs and windows PCs connect fine, but my computer just won't connect. The WPA pass is correct. Can anyone help? I'm using NDisWrapper I think with my wifi card.
[09:43] <Jakobsen> mjbrooks, I will do.. Thank you :)
[09:43] <glassd> there is a ps3 version of ubuntu?
[09:43] <drewbenn> because you are in #ubuntu :)
[09:44] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, because it is not.. stop trolling
[09:44] <Agent_bob> didn't work....   </shucks>
[09:44] <winchesterPAT> trolling ?
[09:44] <elkbuntu> winchesterPAT, you've been asked to take non ubuntu support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:44] <winchesterPAT> mjbrooks being biased is evil
[09:45] <glassd> but your in the official ubuntu channel...
[09:45] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT, 'trolling' means writing comments that will anger the people involved in the conversation.  You are in a chat room named 'ubuntu', so asking if a non-ubuntu distribution is better than an ubuntu release is like walking into a bar in ireland and saying 'england futbol sucks'....
[09:45] <elkbuntu> winchesterPAT, you've been asked several times to stay on topic. if you persist in your current line of discussion you will be removed from the channel
[09:45] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, I'm not biased...  I currently have many different distros under my control... I answered your question
[09:46] <Jordan_U> winchesterPAT, Bottom line, if you are not trying to get support for Ubuntu, you should not be in the Ubuntu support channel
[09:46] <mjbrooks> ty Jordan_U
[09:46] <hugolp> anyone in Gutsy and being unable to conect to the network after this morning updates?
[09:47] <mjbrooks> !gutsy | hugolp
[09:47] <ubotu> hugolp: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:47] <hugolp> ok thanks
[09:47] <winchesterPAT> linux people duck
[09:47] <mjbrooks> so near yet, so far away
[09:47] <winchesterPAT> suck
[09:47] <winchesterPAT> biased idiots
[09:47] <mjbrooks> !ops | winchesterPAT
[09:47] <ubotu> winchesterPAT: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[09:48] <drewbenn> heh
[09:48] <elkbuntu> mjbrooks, you were aware i was here, it wasnt needed to do that
[09:48] <mjbrooks> no sorry   I was not aware
[09:48] <mjbrooks> but ty
[09:48] <drewbenn> he's right, he just made the mistake of saying out loud :)
[09:48] <drewbenn> mjbrooks I agree, I want the official release today :(
[09:48] <Frogzoo_> winchesterPAT: how so? mods won't tolerate that btw
[09:48] <LordLimecat> thank you -_-
[09:49] <LordLimecat> so, Jordan_U, any ideas? :\
[09:49] <LordLimecat> sort of sucks to be without a useable 7600 :\
[09:49] <Agent_bob> frogzoo_  i still haven't gotten the ctrl key to work inside of X    did you have any thoughts on it ?
[09:50] <alecwh> I'm using a dell latitude D630, and I'm having problems connecting with my school's WPA network. All my friend's macs and windows PCs connect fine, but my computer just won't connect. The WPA pass is correct. Can anyone help? I'm using NDisWrapper I think with my wifi card. I have a topic @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3541789&posted=1#post3541789 , but my question wasn't really answered.
[09:50] <jussi01> !wpa | alecwh
[09:50] <ubotu> alecwh: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:50] <mjbrooks> elkbuntu, I don't know all the ops, and since they don't stay oped, it's hard to see who of those I do know are here on the long user list  ;)
[09:50] <jussi01> alecwh: have followed the ionfo in that link
[09:50] <alecwh> jussi01: What am I looking for?
[09:50] <NinjaSouljah> blastin out the new collie buddz cd on linux
[09:51] <jussi01> alecwh: the are certain instructions for wpa
[09:51] <drewbenn> alecwh, follow the link from 'ubotu'
[09:51] <alecwh> Ok, I will. :) T hanks for your help everone.
[09:51] <glassd> i'm still completly lost with this video upscale issue...
[09:51] <jussi01> alecwh: :)
[09:51] <elkbuntu> mjbrooks, we have had discussions before regarding op related things, and i was actively talking :
[09:51] <NinjaSouljah> whats up with virtualbox will I have to install a copy of windows in linux or can I start running programs?
[09:52] <jussi01> !wine | NinjaSouljah
[09:52] <ubotu> NinjaSouljah: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[09:52] <NinjaSouljah> yeah there is the filebrowser
[09:52] <Frogzoo_> Agent_bob: any other keyboard layouts installed apart from the one you're using?
[09:52] <NinjaSouljah> wine browser or something when i run a program from there I get a kernel.dll error
[09:52] <glassd> !docx
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about docx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <glassd> awe
[09:52] <mjbrooks> elkbuntu, ummm... perhaps you mistake me for someone else, or had that conversation before I arrived here tonight  ;P
[09:52] <drewbenn> elkbuntu, if I may offer an objective viewpoint, I only saw you say two things that looked like standard comments from a bot..
[09:53] <jussi01> NinjaSouljah: have you checked if the program actually works with wine?
[09:53] <adante> howdy, anybody here familiar with lvm (particularly over raid-0)
[09:53] <NinjaSouljah> I bet it doesn't
[09:53] <Agent_bob> Frogzoo_ not sure i follow that ?     there is only one mention of keyboard in my xorg.conf   and i'm just starting xorg and twm  right now for testing purposes    so ???
[09:53] <jussi01> !appdb | NinjaSouljah
[09:53] <ubotu> NinjaSouljah: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:53] <elkbuntu> drewbenn, you werent informed? I am a bot ;)
[09:53] <NinjaSouljah> that is why i am going to virtualbox it
[09:53] <jussi01> elkbuntu: LOL
[09:53] <NinjaSouljah> or the other program
[09:54] <drewbenn> cheers elkbuntu :)
[09:54] <drewbenn> !elkbuntu op drewben
[09:54] <jussi01> NinjaSouljah:
[09:54] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, I should grep my log cause I don't recall him talking before he spoke to me  lol
[09:54] <drewbenn> hmm, worth a shot :)
[09:54] <jussi01> vmware
[09:54] <NinjaSouljah> yeah
[09:54] <NinjaSouljah> vm
[09:54] <NinjaSouljah> virtual machine
[09:54] <elkbuntu> ha
[09:54] <alecwh> how do I find my wifi card?
[09:54] <jussi01> !vmware
[09:54] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[09:54] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, you mispelled your own name   lol
[09:54] <LordLimecat> :\ anyone have experience fixing restricted driver manager?
[09:54] <drewbenn> haha :)
[09:54] <NinjaSouljah> well with vmware should i have to install the windows xp software to it?
[09:55] <alecwh> What is the command forgetting the name of my wifi card?
[09:55] <alecwh> for getting*
[09:55] <NinjaSouljah> or create a separate partition with a install of windows?
[09:55] <jmdc> elkbotu, mjbrooks, drewbenn: Today's xkcd comes to mind strongly: www.xkcd.com
[09:55] <Agent_bob> alecwh   lshw   or   lspci
[09:55] <jussi01> NinjaSouljah: you will need to install windows, yes
[09:55] <drewbenn> hehe jmdc you're absoutely right :)
[09:56] <NinjaSouljah> but in a separate paritition or can i do it under linux?
[09:56] <Frogzoo_> Agent_bob: sys -> prefs -> keyboard - gnome seems to have its own keyboard layout management, not sure how it interacts with x
[09:56] <jmdc> NinjaSouljah: vmware uses a large file in the host os, not a seperate partition
[09:56] <mjbrooks> jmdc, bwahahaha
[09:56] <NinjaSouljah> so i can do it within ubuntu
[09:56] <NinjaSouljah> sweet
[09:56] <Agent_bob> Frogzoo_ not sure i follow that ?     there is only one mention of keyboard in my xorg.conf   and i'm just starting xorg and twm  right now for testing purposes    so ???
[09:56] <novato_br> lsakjd
[09:56] <jussi01> !keyboard | Agent_bob
[09:56] <ubotu> Agent_bob: To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[09:56] <NinjaSouljah> I was running desktop effects with the 3dbox thing it kept freezing my system
[09:56] <jmdc> I'm still not sure if elkbuntu is human.
[09:57] <NinjaSouljah> I guess you have to have a high end video card
[09:57] <Agent_bob> jussi01 please read my post.   no gnome.
[09:57] <elkbuntu> jmdc, :
[09:57] <NinjaSouljah> I have found that many cups of coffee can solve most any problem
[09:57] <jussi01> Agent_bob: sorry, I came only recently...
[09:57] <mjbrooks> jmdc, he's an engineer I believe... so the answer to that question is... no    lol
[09:57] <drewbenn> hey!
[09:57] <Agent_bob> jussi01 np.
[09:58] <mjbrooks> lol
[09:58] <drewbenn> engineers are human. mostly. :)
[09:58] <jussi01> hey you lot, watch it... elkbuntu is a woman.... :P
[09:58] <NinjaSouljah> sometimes they just collect data
[09:58] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, was going for the 2-4-1  ;)
[09:58] <elkbuntu> drewbenn, in a terminator sort of way?
[09:58] <frogzoo> jussi01: dude..
[09:58] <NinjaSouljah> so i wouldn't classify all engineers with the engineer title
[09:58] <drewbenn> :)
[09:59] <amidaniel> Hi all. I'm having some difficulties installing Xilinx ISE Webpack. Getting the error message "Xilinx Port::Process Exec Failed:13
[09:59] <jmg> hi all
[09:59] <amidaniel> Any ideas how to fix this? :)
[09:59] <jmg> dpms keeps blanking my screen :(
[09:59] <jmdc> elkbuntu: no offense meant, btw
[09:59] <jmg> even though i have dpms false in xorg.conf
[09:59] <elkbuntu> jmdc, none taken. meanwhile this is waaaay offtopic :)
[09:59] <mjbrooks> jussi01, that's why I love telling people that I don't gedit, I kate, cause I prefer girls!!  ;)
[09:59] <novato_br> how can I compile the software linux toh windows environment ?
[10:00] <jmg> mjbrooks: :p
[10:00] <mjbrooks> novato_br, can you be more specific?
[10:00] <jussi01> :P
[10:00] <jussi01> anyway, back to topic
[10:00] <jmg> note i have neither a keyboard nor a mouse, i am using lirc
[10:01] <novato_br> i want to compile de openoffice to environment windows
[10:01] <novato_br> is it possible ? and how ?
[10:01] <NinjaSouljah> does anyone know why the touchpad mouse freezes after i switch users?
[10:01] <Agent_bob> cross platform compiling    yes it's possable.
[10:01] <mjbrooks> novato_br, you can download a version of openoffice for windows without needing to compile it
[10:01] <novato_br> mjbrooks, how can I do that?
[10:02] <mjbrooks> novato_br, www.openoffice.org
[10:02] <novato_br> wow, mjbrooks
[10:02] <NinjaSouljah> i have this cheap acer 2420 laptop that was dropped on me after my company bounced several checks and laid me off
[10:02] <novato_br> thx
[10:02] <novato_br> i thought that i need to compile
[10:02] <NinjaSouljah> anyone want a laptop, cheap I got 2 laptops 6 hp athlon xp desktops 2 touchscreens and a nichipri thermal printer
[10:02] <jmdc> ninjasouljah, I've seen similar weird things happen. I think its related to acpi stuff
[10:02] <NinjaSouljah> I will sell it all for 200 bucks
[10:03] <NinjaSouljah> so maybe a bios update or setting will cure
[10:03] <Agent_bob> NinjaSouljah oooh  the "cheap acer"   probably with  "ati everything"   ;/
[10:03] <NinjaSouljah> yeah the paperclip one
[10:03] <NinjaSouljah> it is a bastarg
[10:03] <mjbrooks> NinjaSouljah, do they run linux?   :P
[10:03] <novato_br> mjbrooks: I thought that I would need to compile it.
[10:03] <NinjaSouljah> I have been sucessful with the acer
[10:03] <mjbrooks> novato_br, nope, that's already been done for oyu
[10:03] <NinjaSouljah> I have everything working on it
[10:03] <Agent_bob> NinjaSouljah impathizes...
[10:03] <jmdc> umm ... can we stay on topic
[10:04] <jmdc> maybe sell stuff on ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:04] <NinjaSouljah> I had the desktop effects working good until I ran opera or mozilla
[10:04] <NinjaSouljah> then it would freeze sometimes
[10:04] <novato_br> cool, that I wouldn't need to compile it
[10:04] <novato_br> hahaaa
[10:04] <elkbuntu> NinjaSouljah, trying to sell things in support channels will get you into trouble
[10:04] <NinjaSouljah> although I am a computer technician I wouldn't recommend it to a novice
[10:04] <NinjaSouljah> I am just kidding
[10:04] <NinjaSouljah> I wouldn't sell it anyway
[10:05] <NinjaSouljah> 200 bucks 8 computers
[10:05] <NinjaSouljah> lol
[10:05] <elkbuntu> NinjaSouljah, then please cease this discussion
[10:05] <NinjaSouljah> sorry
[10:05] <tuukkis> remember brush your teeth
[10:06] <NinjaSouljah> I am just mad at my company that is all
[10:06] <NinjaSouljah> they owe me like 1500 dollars
[10:06] <NinjaSouljah> and they just dumped all this stuff on me
[10:06] <novato_br> what do you think about linux on asus motherboard?
[10:06] <Agent_bob> you got off cheap.   count your blessings.
[10:06] <NinjaSouljah> yep
[10:06] <novato_br> is it good idea or not?
[10:06] <NinjaSouljah> and it works for my computer graveyard since I am a technician
[10:06] <mjbrooks> novato_br, haven't heard of any issues
[10:07] <Agent_bob> novato_br i know nothing particularly bad there.
[10:07] <elkbuntu> NinjaSouljah, this is a technical support channel. please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or another non-support channel
[10:07] <glassd> i have ubuntu on an asus notebook...
[10:07] <tronyx> is there any way to not have an icon appear on your desktop when you automatically mount something?
[10:07] <NinjaSouljah> I like asus I have always liked them ever since the oldskool days
[10:07] <novato_br> mjbrooks, yep, the asus will build in chip with linux
[10:08] <Agent_bob> tronyx i'm sure there is.  in kde you could right click and configure it to not display "device icons"  but i'm not well versed in gnome.
[10:08] <paffcio> i have a quick ubuntu question...
[10:08] <Agent_bob> in fact i don't particularly like gah-no-me
[10:08] <NinjaSouljah> check out some barry brown
[10:08] <mjbrooks> I have a quick unbuntu answer
[10:09] <NinjaSouljah> or some dennis brown
[10:09] <NinjaSouljah> I am out
[10:09] <mjbrooks> lol
[10:09] <novato_br> mjbrooks and Agent_bob look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=589gvghX6QE
[10:09] <Catoptromancy> what was command that print kernel version?
[10:09] <paffcio> in 7.04 which I installed on a DELL inspiron5000e, after a successful Gnome, Kde or XFce session the notebook refuses to shutdown or reboot. Any pointers?
[10:10] <jmdc> catoptromancy: uname --all
[10:10] <mjbrooks> Catoptromancy, uname -r
[10:10] <Catoptromancy> coool
[10:10] <Agent_bob> any reason that this keyboard shouldn't work propperly ???   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/40200     it's  102 key  ps/2  qwerty
[10:11] <allan_> Guys, having a strange problem. I Umount'ed my /media/disk (USB Stick) yesterday, how can i mount it back again?
[10:11] <Agent_bob> Catoptromancy uname    and the switch -r restricts the output to version only.
[10:11] <novato_br> mjbrooks, did you see the video?
[10:11] <Agent_bob> Catoptromancy uname -a    for all kernel info   not that you need -a
[10:12] <paffcio> any suggestions about the failure to shutdown?
[10:12] <drewbenn> novato_br, that must be kde-powered, there are a lot of options (I kid, I kid!).  funny, though :)
[10:12] <jmdc> paffcio: do the logs tell you anything?
[10:13] <Agent_bob> paffcio sudo init 0     see if it works or gives errors
[10:13] <novato_br> drewbenn,  what? sorry, but i didn't understand the joke.
[10:13] <jmdc> paffcio: actually - do what he said
[10:13] <paffcio> ok, I'll try that next time. I'm on the problematic workstation now...
[10:14] <BleedingMoon_> does any1 knows about an assembler for ubuntu?
[10:14] <drewbenn> oh, my bad, I thought it was supposed to be a comedy video :(
[10:14] <paffcio> thanks!
[10:14] <novato_br> but in next future the asus motherboards will bring the linux buil in chip
[10:14] <Agent_bob> you can check the syslog and ksyslog    in /var/log/ paffcio
[10:14] <paffcio> ok
[10:14] <novato_br> no, drewbenn
[10:14] <novato_br> it's real
[10:14] <paffcio> i'm going to look into it now...
[10:14] <BleedingMoon_> and another question, if ill download ubuntu 7.10 today, it wont have to do a mssive changes when it will release
[10:14] <novato_br> it's true
[10:14] <novato_br> boot in 5 seconds
[10:15] <drewbenn> oh, that is pretty cool!
[10:15] <novato_br> looking for on google about this issue
[10:15] <jmdc> bleedingMoon_: I would wait a day, myself.
[10:15] <jmdc> bleedingMoon_: wait, nevermind. I thought you said 7.04
[10:15] <yigal> 5 s holly cows milk
[10:16] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, is it a non-us?
[10:16] <tkooda> I figured out my issue with the apt ignoring my /etc/apt/secring.gpg :  I was missing a few fields (`apt-ftparchive` didn't add stuff like "Suite:" and "Codename:"?) in my main Release file.
[10:16] <jmdc> bleedingMoon_: downloading Fiesty now is just fine, and probably won't have many updates tomorrow
[10:16] <Agent_bob> i have two installations of dapper on one box   i wrote the sysv* for one the other is stock    there is over 30 seconds differance in boot time to a console login.  no X
[10:16] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks no.
[10:16] <drewbenn> oh, wow, it is really cool!
[10:16] <paffcio> Agent_bob: syslog: syslogd 1.4.1#20ubuntu4: restart.
[10:16] <jmdc> bleedingMoon_: I mean gutsy
[10:16] <drewbenn> heh, I'm too used to 3+ min bootups :)
[10:16] <jmdc> I am having issues, typing
[10:16] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, hace you tried  Option        "XkbModel" "pc105"
[10:17] <paffcio> Agent_bob: anacron[5316] : Job `cron.daily' terminated
[10:17] <paffcio> Oct 15 19:52:01 komputerek anacron[5316] : Normal exit (1 job run)
[10:17] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, I thought pc102 was no-us
[10:17] <paffcio> it seems like syslog is fine....
[10:17] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks i tried  101 102 104   all the same.  didn't try 105
[10:17] <paffcio> nothing unusual, no kernel panics, no crashes...
[10:17] <jmdc> paffcio, what happened when you did init 0?
[10:18] <NeoGeo64> question for anyone who knows
[10:18] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks 102 = non-us ???  i just counted the keys and there are 102 keys on this board.
[10:18] <NeoGeo64> Will gstreamer in Ubuntu 7.10 support MIDI
[10:18] <paffcio> jmdc: actually let me do sudo init 0 now - I'm on the machine that has the problem.
[10:18] <jmdc> !ask NeoGeo64
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask neogeo64 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <paffcio> thanks guys for the help! i'm gonna try sudo init 0 thing now... bbl!
[10:19] <NeoGeo64> no one know?
[10:20] <Agent_bob> NeoGeo64 i don't know,   but it seems most sound cards anymore don't support MIDI  you have to emulate it.
[10:21] <jmdc> NeoGeo64: it doesn't look like gstreamer supports midi.
[10:21] <jmdc> but why don't you try googling it?
[10:21] <jmdc> gstreamer has a website you know?
[10:21] <NeoGeo64> why wouldnt it? midi is very old and standard
[10:21] <NeoGeo64> i dont get it
[10:22] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks nope   pc105 same thing.   still have to reset the keyboard to break out of X  i.e. ctrl key not working in X
[10:22] <paffcio> back!
[10:23] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, http://www.xfree86.org/current/XKB-Config.html    might be helpfull  or at least informative
[10:23] <paffcio> sudo init 0 produced the same thing: x server exit and a motherboard freeze up
[10:24] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks looking.
[10:24] <jmdc> NeoGeo64: The gstreamer people are working on other things, I guess. Midis aren't completely unsupported though. You can play them in amarok, I believe.
[10:25] <Agent_bob> paffcio sounds like the "halt" command is sending the "wrong" code to the bios.   is a bios update avalable for your board ?
[10:25] <Ashex> I'm attempting to debug elisa
[10:25] <Ashex> but when I run gdb -args elisa
[10:25] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, better http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/xkb/
[10:26] <Ashex> when I type run, it says no executable file found
[10:26] <ChupaChupsa> what is Gutsy?
[10:26] <Ashex> it also says "/usr/bin/elisa": not in executable format: File format not recognized
[10:26] <Ashex> anyone know why it is doing that?
[10:26] <jmdc> NeoGeo64: Maybe this will be useful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736
[10:26] <paffcio> Agent_bob: not as far as I know. however this was not the casewith Ubuntu 5.04 and 5.10. Neither was this a problem with other linux distros. For some reason 7.04 is acting up. Everything else is 100% stble otherwise.
[10:26] <drewbenn> ChupaChupsa, it is Ubuntu 7.10, the follow-on release to 'Feisty' Ubuntu7.04.
[10:27] <jmdc> ChupaChupsa: gusty is "Gutsy Gibbon"
[10:27] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, perhaps you want "en_US" insteaad of just "us"
[10:27] <ChupaChupsa> each  version every 6 months has a different name???
[10:27] <erUSUL> !midi | NeoGeo64
[10:27] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[10:27] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks that's a "LOCALS" thang  isn't it ?   should matter on the ctrl key
[10:28] <drewbenn> ChupaChupsa, there are internal codenames, like (E)dgy, (F)eisty, (G)utsy; the numbers show when they are released, like 2007-04 (April) is 7.4; 2007-10 (October '07) is 7.10.
[10:28] <mikubuntu> i'm in a pickle guys.  which kernel should i install with x?  linux-generic, linux-image-generic, or linux-image-2.6.20.15-generic?
[10:28] <drewbenn> They aim for regular release, about every 6 months.  It is sort of a goal in the software engineering profession to have predictable releases :)
[10:29] <mikubuntu> door number 1, door number 2, or door number 3?
[10:29] <jmdc> ChupaChuupsa: yes, the codenames are of the form <Adjective> <Animal> and tend to be somewhat silly
[10:29] <mikubuntu> please help, i've been trying to get something to run on this laptop for four hours now .. arrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh...
[10:29] <paffcio> Agent_bob: the screen glows in diferent colors when I try to shut down (maybe x server issue?) and then the motherboard is non-responsive.
[10:29] <jmdc> each release is supported ... 18 months?
[10:29] <Agent_bob> mikubuntu it's all the same kernel  and two meta packages
[10:29] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: linux-image-generic
[10:29] <ChupaChupsa> but what if there isn't much to change in Ubuntu, they still release it?
[10:30] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: that package is a meta package that allways depends on the more recent kernel aviable
[10:30] <Agent_bob> paffcio are you sure it's "non-responsive" ?  did you test the magic sysRQ combo's  ?
[10:30] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, it may... from what I'm reading "Users of US keyboards have two options: us for plain vanilla US keys and en_US for a keyboard with a group of interesting additional characters"
[10:30] <drewbenn> ChupaChupsa, when they start the next 6-month release, they have a list of features for the next release, some critical (i.e. they would delay the release to ensure those features are included); some low (don't delay the release); many in between.
[10:30] <erUSUL> ChupaChupsa: in the OSS world there is allways to much to change ;)
[10:31] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks no change.  tried both.
[10:31] <drewbenn> ChupaChupsa it is a common release ideal... you should read Brooks' Mythical Man-Month if you are still curious :)
[10:31] <mikubuntu> erUSUL: thanks.  new question, is there any telltale signs of a harddrive being broken?  like maybe a clicking sound?  i have been trying for hours to install flux, or xubuntu on this machine and it keeps hanging up at different places, i'm starting to think a hardware prob
[10:31] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, if you were in KDE I'd point you to Kxkb    ;P
[10:31] <paffcio> Agent_bob: even the kbd CAPS LOCK key light refuses to work. No combinations work, only the power button if held down.
[10:31] <FelixCuLpa> clicking noise = harddrive
[10:31] <jmdc> mikubuntu: yes, a clicking sound is BAD
[10:31] <jmdc> "the click of death"
[10:32] <FelixCuLpa> the IBM deathstar click of death
[10:32] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: strange sounds are allways a bad sign...
[10:32] <jmdc> you should back up everything on that disk, ASAP
[10:32] <mikubuntu> nothing on it, not a prob there
[10:32] <drewbenn> heh, raise your hand if you've performed a backup in the last six months....
[10:32] <mjbrooks> and feet
[10:33] <PriitM_> clicking sound may be normal for some drives(hitatci for example)
[10:33] <ChupaChupsa> ok, then tell, me, these changes are 'majot changes' like a change from windows98 to windowsXP? That is, will there be much to reconfigure after each release? or is it just - 'update and go on'?
[10:33] <mikubuntu> but, an error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system ... could this be the hard drive causing prob?
[10:33] <ChupaChupsa> *major
[10:33] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: if the drive supports SMART you can try to check the "health" reported by 'sudo smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sda | less'
[10:33] <jmdc> well okay ... but a NEW clicking noise is a bad sign
[10:33] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: use the apropiate /dev/file
[10:33] <Agent_bob> paffcio ok.   acpi    that's what you are fighting.   if there isn't an update for the bios  look for patches for the linux end of things   or maybe a work-around,   that's the best i can do for you.    at least you are pointed in the right dirrection.
[10:33] <Micro> Hi - can someone tell me best way to add other desktop backgrounds to use?
[10:34] <jmdc> Micro - just right click and do change desktop background
[10:34] <mjbrooks> when my drives start clicking I back them up then do a drop test... then I know for sure if something is loose
[10:34] <drewbenn> ChupaChupsa I don't know for sure, I haven't lived through one of these upgrades yet!!  I believe that they are supposed to be easy, though.  Theoretically, if you run the upgrade things will continue to work as they did before, "just better."
[10:34] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: if you tell us the exact error maybe we can figure out what's happening
[10:34] <paffcio> Agent_bob: thanks, anything helps. So far ununtu has worked perfectly on it, I'm just hoping not to damage the system by constant power-off by power button...
[10:34] <drewbenn> mjbrooks lol
[10:35] <FelixCuLpa> when my harddrive is broken I just wipe it then swap it with someone elses at work
[10:35] <FelixCuLpa> theyve got warranties
[10:35] <FelixCuLpa> I dont
[10:35] <PriitM_> Few years ago I downloaded some linux distro with dial-up(56k) and the hard drive what I downloaded it on died. I already had like 60% downloaded.
[10:35] <mjbrooks> ChupaChupsa, it's kinda an update and move on as long as you keep with it... it only becomes major if you skip a few releases
[10:35] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks i even removed the keyboard section altogather and it still doesn't let me out of X without the   alt+sysRQ+r   first.
[10:35] <Micro> jmdc - only see three choices after this new install of ubuntu - would like to add others - not sure where to locate them....
[10:35] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, hmmm
[10:36] <mikubuntu> says to check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details, but i don't know how to do that in the middle of an install
[10:36] <ChupaChupsa> mjbrooks: to "keep with it", how much Mb do I download each 6 months?
[10:36] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: Alt + Crtl + Fn (n=1,2,3,*4*)
[10:36] <jmdc> Micro: save pictures somewhere convenient. Then click "add wallpaper"
[10:36] <Agent_bob> paffcio luck with it.    and check the bug reports,  if there isn't one, then make one.
[10:37] <Agent_bob> !bug | paffcio
[10:37] <ubotu> paffcio: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:37] <mjbrooks> ChupaChupsa, through the upgrade manager ~300-400Mb
[10:37] <ChupaChupsa> ok
[10:37] <paffcio> I'll be happy to help out. Thanks.
[10:37] <Micro> jmdc - pics can be put in any folder setup under "Home" ?
[10:37] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, oerhaps you need a new KB   ;)
[10:38] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks but i just changed this one ten minutes ago
[10:38] <jmdc> Micro - that's right. Your home directory is where you should save all your files. Also, many applications store their settings in your home directory. I would probably make a folder in it and store pictures there
[10:38] <mikubuntu> erUSUL: na, nothing happens for me with those keystrokes
[10:38] <mjbrooks> lol
[10:38] <Aviel> hey i got problem
[10:39] <FelixCuLpa> we all have problems
[10:39] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks and "no that's not when the problem started"  lol
[10:39] <Micro> jmdc - thx - new to all this - really like linux though....
[10:39] <Aviel> my system not reconize my network driver
[10:39] <Aviel> what to do?
[10:39] <FelixCuLpa> then how are you on IRC?
[10:39] <jmdc> Micro - if you're coming from windows, the home directory is like your Documents and Settings folder
[10:39] <jmdc> Aviel: is it wireless?
[10:39] <Aviel> nope
[10:40] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks thanks for all the fish tho.    i'll let you get on with your life now.   ;)
[10:40] <jmdc> Aviel: what hardware is it?
[10:40] <Aviel> i have here supermicro server
[10:40] <drewbenn> Micro, are you using 'gnome' or 'Ubuntu' or ... ?  There are programs that will organize your photos for you, and apply tags to them... I have heard (but haven't tried it) that 'F-Spot' is a good one, have you tried it?
[10:40] <Aviel> amd opteron 2214
[10:40] <erUSUL> Aviel: which network chip?
[10:40] <Micro> jmdc - great gives me some - direction - have a long ways to go - but will hang in there
[10:40] <Aviel> Supermicro  AS-1021M-T2+B
[10:40] <jmdc> drewbenn: I've used F-Spot, its cool.
[10:40] <Aviel> MCP55 PRO
[10:40] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, perhaps reconfiguring xorg??
[10:40] <Agent_bob> drewbenn ***'gnome' or 'Ubuntu'***   do you mean   gnome in ubuntu ?
[10:41] <drewbenn> jmdc it's in my applications menu, but I prefer ls and gimp :)
[10:41] <erUSUL> Aviel: lspci | grep -i net
[10:41] <Micro> drewbenn - will google it and check it out - thx
[10:41] <Aviel> SEC
[10:41] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:41] <jmdc> Micro - if you have a lot of photos that you want as backgrounds, I would recommend using Fspot (its in apps,graphics)
[10:41] <drewbenn> agent_bob, trying all variations... as opposed to 'windows' 'apple' 'xp' 'vista' 'kde' etc.
[10:41] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, bit drastic though
[10:41] <FelixCuLpa> how come my graphics card seems sluggish when I have an 8800gts and the drivers installed
[10:41] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks that's different than editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file how ?
[10:41] <Aviel> HMM
[10:41] <dovecothelp>  i have a problem sneding mail to internal users
[10:41] <dovecothelp> can you help me?
[10:42] <Micro> jmdc - just do a " sudo apt-get install f-spot" correct?
[10:42] <Aviel> Bridge: nVidia orporation MCP55 Ethernet
[10:42] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks cause that's where i been making the changes,  in the xorg.conf file...
[10:42] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, its through the magical package manager  :P
[10:42] <Kerzinger> hallo, Ineed some help to get my X-Server to run correct, the problem is: the X-Server fails to start (X Window System Version 7.2.0) this occurs after an update of ubuntu. The error-messages are: Failed to load the NVUDIA kernel modul
[10:42] <dovecothelp> guys please help me
[10:42] <drewbenn> Micro before you do that, if there is an Applications button on the top or botto of the screen, try that, then look for Graphics, then look for F-Spot... is it there?
[10:42] <Aviel> ?
[10:42] <jmdc> Micro: oh, I thought it was installed by default. If not, that should do it.
[10:42] <drewbenn> dovecothelp what program do you use for sending mail?
[10:42] <Aviel> here
[10:42] <Aviel> Bridge: nVidia orporation MCP55 Ethernet
[10:42] <FelixCuLpa> make sure to download the new nvidia packages and delete the old
[10:43] <dovecothelp> postfix+devecot+sieve
[10:43] <Aviel> how?
[10:43] <erUSUL> Aviel: 'sudo modprobe forcedeth'
[10:43] <FelixCuLpa> then change your xorg.conf
[10:43] <Aviel> sec
[10:43] <Micro> jmdc - I'll check in synaptics
[10:43] <FelixCuLpa> from nv to nvidia
[10:43] <FelixCuLpa> under the device
[10:43] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks heh,   yeah.   but if it  doesn't also change something in /etc/defaults  or something like that,  then it's just a fancy way to edit the xorg.conf   and "yes i have reconfigured several times too"   ...
[10:43] <Aviel> show nothing
[10:43] <jmdc> Micro - well if you do an apt-get install and its installed ... nothing bad happens. It just tells you
 can you help me?
[10:44] <drewbenn> dovecothelp sorry, I have no idea... by 'internal' do you mean a corporate e-mail system?  Do you have a corporate IT department you can consult?   ....   others in this room might be able to help, i can't, sorry :(   also, try google....
[10:44] <erUSUL> Aviel: now 'sudo ifconfig -a'
[10:44] <ksivaji> is there anyone using opendns in ubuntu
[10:44] <Kerzinger> FelixCuLpa do you respond to my question?
[10:44] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, I'm out of ideas at the moment  :^/
[10:44] <Aviel> lo and sit0
[10:44] <erUSUL> Aviel: please when talking to me add my nick in front of the reply
[10:44] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks i've been working on this for several days now.     although not very aggressivly.
[10:44] <benclinch> ksivaji: Yep, easy
[10:44] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks reposting >>> thanks for all the fish tho.    i'll let you get on with your life now.   ;)
[10:44] <dovecothelp> i can send mail to yahoo gmail and other but to root i don't
[10:44] <Aviel> erUSUL: show lo and sit0
[10:44] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, kk
[10:45] <selig5>  /Kerzinger me
[10:45] <Aviel> erUSUL, show lo and sit0
[10:45] <erUSUL> Aviel: can you post the output of lspci to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[10:45] <Aviel> sec
[10:45] <ksivaji> benclinch opendns seems to be slow for me
[10:45] <erUSUL> Aviel: those are virtual interfaces not the "real" ones
[10:45] <Aviel> hmm how i copy thas
[10:45] <Aviel> i know
[10:45] <drewbenn> dovecothelp you're well beyond me, sorry to mislead you.
[10:45] <benclinch> ksivaji: Wherabouts in the world are you?
[10:45] <drewbenn> oops 5 seconds late.
[10:45] <Aviel> its not reconize the real 1
[10:46] <Aviel> i need install some driver?
[10:46] <ksivaji> benclinch india ->chennai
[10:46] <Micro> jmdc - opps - really klutzed up this time - prog there already under "applications/graphics" time to move on - thx.
[10:46] <Kerzinger> selig5 please explain
[10:46] <Aviel> i need install some driver for its reconize my driver?
[10:46] <benclinch> ksivaji: All of the servers seem to be fine, I can't see any reason for it to be slow
[10:47] <Spee_Der> Have a good day folks, I'm off to work again.
[10:47] <Micro> thx 4 all help
[10:47] <selig5> Kerzinger: it works for me
[10:47] <JediMaster> Gutsy out today?
[10:47] <drewbenn> JediMaster -- I wish! 2 more days :(
[10:47] <JediMaster> =(
[10:47] <erUSUL> Aviel: in theory the forcedeth driver (that you already loaded) is the one that runs nvidia ethernet cards
[10:48] <Delphinus> please forgive the n00b question, but whats the difference going to be between the RC and full version of 7.10? Just some updated packages? will an apt-get upgrade from RC be exactly the same as final release?
[10:48] <Kerzinger> selig5 please explain what is working for you
[10:48] <ksivaji> benclinch my dns address  208.67.222.222 ,  208.67.222.220
[10:48] <selig5> opendns
[10:48] <erUSUL> Aviel: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:48] <Aviel> erUSUL: so why i dont see eth0?
[10:49] <mikubuntu> is an old laptop monitor likely to be crt or lcd?
[10:49] <Aviel> its not ubuntu :P
[10:49] <benclinch> ksivaji: That's correct. Could you try setting the DNS on your router?
[10:49] <selig5> mikubuntu: lcd
[10:49] <ksivaji> benclinch how
[10:50] <ksivaji> benclinch my server address 192.168.1.1
[10:50] <mikubuntu> oops, just selected crt
[10:50] <erUSUL> Aviel: i do not know sorry :( maybe you can try a different kernel image? what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:50] <benclinch> ksivaji: Follow the "Router Instructions" here - https://www.opendns.com/start
[10:50] <liberum> Isn't there a RSS reader out the with a filter funktion? I wan't to see only a few of the news in a feed. The only one i found so far is knewsticker.. but that's not what i'm looking for. I need a big reader where i can see everything at once.
[10:50] <JediMaster> Aviel: this a forcedeth problem on a nvidia motherboard?
[10:50] <ksivaji> benclinch ok
[10:50] <erUSUL> JediMaster: yes
[10:51] <Tomcat_> liberum: liferea has something like that I believe... search folders/virtual folders.
[10:51] <Aviel> supermicro board
[10:51] <JediMaster> Aviel: I had an issue with it working in gutsy, but I fixed it and posted it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/136836
[10:51] <jmdc> Delphinus: don't worry about the level of your question :-) Things that would change at this point are very little. Fixes for showstopping bugs, and thats about it
[10:51] <liberum> Tomcat_: I'll look that up, thanks :)
[10:51] <Aviel> ok
[10:51] <JediMaster> basically: modprobe forcedeth msi=0 msix=0
[10:51] <Delphinus> jmdc: thankyou. so getting RC then apt-get upgrading = same as full release?
[10:52] <jmdc> Delphinus: yes.
[10:52] <Delphinus> jmdc: cheers :D
[10:52] <jmdc> Delphinus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseCandidate
[10:53] <jmdc> The gist of it is, changes at this point delay the release. We don't want that.
[10:54] <drewbenn> jmdc, are you a 'we' that just wants the final release (i.e. user) or 'we' that is working on the final relase (i.e. developer)?
[10:54] <Kerzinger> FelixCuLpa failing of the X-Server seems to occur frequently after updating of ubuntu, how to make the system stable to updates?
[10:55] <Tomcat_> drewbenn: Both. Nobody wants the release delayed... the development rules after freezes are pretty harsh. :)
[10:55] <jmdc> drewbenn: I'm a user. I've fixed a few bugs and such, but basicallyy I'm a user.
[10:56] <tronyx> is there a way to merge an ext3 partition with my root partition so that my total root partition increases in size?
[10:56] <[maTa] > how to rezise LVM partition? acronis 10? gparted?
[10:56] <drewbenn> thanks, just curious :) Your answer implied both! I certainly don't want the release delayed either.... and Tomcat_, I do understand trying to make fixes after a release date, _no_one_ wants that!!!
[10:56] <Tomcat_> tronyx: No way to merge partitions with free tools, sorry. Maybe with commercial software.
[10:57] <jmdc> tronyx: LVM is designed to let you do that, but you have to start out using it from the beginning I believe.
[10:57] <ksivaji> benclinch can you help me to find my router
[10:57] <jmdc> drewbenn: I shouldn't be careless and put on airs like that ;-)
[10:57] <tronyx> so if i have a root partition which is 7 gig on a hard drive which is 40 gig and there is approximately 33 free gigs of ext3 i can't put them together?
[10:57] <CrummyGummy> Hi all,
[10:57] <benclinch> ksivaji: Yep, what make is your router?
[10:58] <drewbenn> jmdc, sorry, I 'understand' from my internal corporate view, certainly nothing on the level of linux!  I've just been the focus of local management :)
[10:58] <RantingHuman> !compiz-fusion
[10:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:58] <ksivaji> benclinch its a router from ISP
[10:58] <CrummyGummy> Is there any command I can use to show the status of all startup scripts?
[10:58] <ksivaji> benclinch http://www.ubuntuslave.blogspot.com/
[10:58] <jmdc> tronyx: well, what would it mean to "put them together"? If you write to the root of the filesystem, which partition are your writing to?
[10:58] <CrummyGummy> something like rc-status in gentoo.
[10:59] <benclinch> ksivaji: It's not worth bothering then, just change the DNS on your computer
[10:59] <jmdc> drewbenn: hey if you can get managers to support linux ... I bow to you :-)
[10:59] <ksivaji> benclinch my net gone slow after changing to open dns
[10:59] <jmdc> tronyx: you can however, mount the other partition somewhere.
[10:59] <tronyx> jmdc, when I installed gutsy I decided to just give it a small portion of a second hard drive to hang out on so I could experiment with it.  I've grown to love it but 7 gigs won't cut it.  i was hoping i could use all 40 gigs of the hard drive
[11:00] <tronyx> i'm not terribly familiar with linux file systems, can i move my home directory to another ext3 partition?
[11:01] <benclinch> ksivaji: That's odd, have you restarted your computer?
[11:01] <liberum> Tomcat_: cannot find a filter function int here... i can search in all feeds though...
[11:01] <jhaig> tronyx: How do you mean?  You can create a new partition, and then mount it on /home.
[11:01] <ksivaji> benclinch ya
[11:01] <Tomcat_> liberum: There are virtual folders... like the "Unread" or "Important" folder. I'm not sure if they can filter anything besides those flags though...
[11:01] <Tomcat_> liberum: Wait, I'll install.
[11:02] <benclinch> ksivaji: Very wierd, I honestly have no idea what's wrong then
[11:02] <jhaig> tronyx: Or you could change the path of your home directory, but I don't know why you would want to do that unless you have a lot of users.
[11:02] <tronyx> i might be a little bit lost on that jhaig
[11:02] <_aaa> in Linux, lost passwords can be found how?
[11:02] <liberum> Tomcat_: just found extensions :)
[11:02] <ksivaji> benclinch may be something wrong with my ISP
[11:02] <Tomcat_> liberum: There are "Search Folders"... that should do it for you.
[11:02] <tronyx> well if I keep downloading programs and adding onto my system, won't i eventually fill up the remaining 2.5 gigs of the 7 gigs i designated at the install?
[11:02] <jhaig> tronyx: OK, I've just read your previous comments as well, and it makes more sense now.
[11:02] <Tomcat_> liberum: Just tried it... I can filter out all news items not containing a specific word in the headline, for example.
[11:03] <benclinch> ksivaji: It could be I suppose
[11:03] <ksivaji> benclinch thanks a lot
[11:03] <drewbenn> _aaa, did you write them down and tape them to the bottom of the keyboard, by any chance?
[11:03] <benclinch> ksivaji: Welcome
[11:03] <jhaig> tronyx: So, if I understand correctly, you have partitioned your disk to have 7G for the root partition, and then about 30G unused.  Is this correct?
[11:03] <tronyx> yes jhaig
[11:04] <tronyx> well the 30 gigs was ntfs but it wasn't doing anything so i reformatted it to ext3
[11:04] <jmdc> tronyx: is there anything on the 30 gigs?
[11:04] <ferronica> How can I repair a corrupt iso file?
[11:04] <jhaig> tronyx: OK, then you can create a new partition, copy the files from /home onto the new partition, empty /home and then mount the new partition on /home.
[11:04] <tronyx> no, empty ext3
[11:04] <jhaig> tronyx: Is it already mounted?
[11:04] <jmdc> jhaig: that still wastes a few gigabytes of space though, doesn't it?
[11:04] <tronyx> sudo fdisk -l?
[11:05] <liberum> Tomcat_: Youre right! Big thank you :) I like liferea alot allready.. so many settings
[11:05] <Tomcat_> liberum: Yeah, it's really an awesome but still easy to use RSS reader :)
[11:06] <modumass> hey all, im trying to do a distro update and i get this error http://www.pastebin.org/4952 any ideas?
[11:06] <liberum> Tomcat_: Anyother thing that anoyed me was to not be able to set the individual update time for feeds... i have feeds that updates like once in a month
[11:06] <liberum> so that's great
[11:06] <Tomcat_> liberum: :-)
[11:06] <jhaig> tronyx: Unless you want to change the partitioning, you can just do (something like): sudo cp -a /home/* /media/hda2
[11:06] <equinoxe> slt les gens
[11:07] <jhaig> tronyx: This will depend on how the new partition is mounted.
[11:07] <tronyx> jhaig, could I PM you?
[11:07] <jhaig> tronyx: OK
[11:07] <jmdc> tronyx: I think you should resize the 7 gig partition to take up the whole drive. This has the potential to destroy things. Make backups.
[11:08] <tronyx> oh wait wait
[11:08] <tronyx> i can open gparted and resize the 7 gigs to use the whole drive?
[11:08] <jmdc> tronyx: yes, but it might break things.
[11:09] <jmdc> so, either make backups or ... play fast and loose like I usually do ;-)
[11:09] <benclinch> Hey all, when I boot server edition, how come it comes up with a load of stuff starting _after_ the username prompt? How can I make it do it before? It doesn't affect anything except looks.
[11:09] <tronyx> i think i'll go with the fast and loose =p
[11:09] <jhaig> tronyx: Well, I think you can do that too, but I am an advocate of having a separate /home partition.  Having said that, I have found a bug in the gutsy installer that has problems with this.  :-(
[11:09] <tronyx> it's a new isntall and I don't have a ton on this OS yet, pretty much anything valuable is backed up on another hard drive such as movies, music, pictures, etc
[11:10] <tronyx> i ran into a weird bug with gutsy install too
[11:10] <tronyx> jmdc, if something breaks how soon will i know if it's broken? =X
[11:11] <jmdc> tronyx: most likely right away
[11:11] <tronyx> meh, worst case scenario i need to re-install gutsy and get my themes back
[11:11] <tronyx> that isn't too bad is it?
[11:11] <jmdc> no.
[11:11] <jmdc> it should be fine
[11:11] <jmdc> I'm just covering my ass
[11:11] <tronyx> HAHAHA
[11:12] <jmdc> which is weird, because this is IRC
[11:12] <jhaig> tronyx: The bug I found is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/migration-assistant/+bug/152261  You are only likely to see it, though, if you already have a separate /home partition from a previous install.
[11:12] <Monkeygill> is there a way to restart alsa in ubuntu *without* rebooting?
[11:12] <Monkeygill> ( sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils ain't cutting it)
[11:12] <ferronica> when i burn iso file K3B genrate error burn failure?
[11:12] <Monkeygill> err.. +force-reload or restart
[11:13] <tronyx> jhaig and jmdc I will be thinking on these things but now I believe it's time for bed.  should something go wrong with the resizing I know I wouldn't be able to let it go until the morning
[11:13] <livenicely> hello
[11:13] <tronyx> on a final note, if it isn't too much to ask, why a seperate partition for /home?
[11:13] <jmdc> tronyx: you can nuke the install, and everything magically is still there
[11:13] <livenicely> i have a problem with my fire fox
[11:13] <jhaig> tronyx: So that if you need to completely reinstall for any reason you can format the disk but keep the home partition intact.
[11:14] <jhaig> Unfortunately, the bug I found prevents this in Gutsy  :-(
[11:14] <tronyx> awesome idea
[11:14] <jmdc> tronyx, it is
[11:14] <tronyx> so, if you had 40 gigs of hard drive on a system with a gig of ram and an amd 3400+, how would you allocate that space?
[11:14] <tronyx> and 250gigs of NTFS which is more or less media storage as of now (if that matters)
[11:14] <jhaig> ... and the Feisty installer works, but with a small hack.  (Manually unmounting a partition part way through)
[11:14] <Neatchee> Hey all, I'm having a network problem.  Every 10-15 minutes, I lose connectivity.  My wireless connection isn't going down (signal strength and connection is fine), but I get disconnected from any services (AIM, IRC, etc) and can't make any other connections (no websites load, etc).  Any ideas?
[11:15] <Neatchee> The disconnect only lasts for about 20-30 seconds
[11:15] <tronyx> feisty craps out on me when starting X.  there's some bug with ATI X1000 series video cards
[11:17] <livenicely> any one know any command to tune up ubuntu 7.04
[11:17] <jmdc> livenicely: please be more specific
[11:18] <wwwjek> hello
[11:18] <drewbenn> thanks for the help tonight, guys, have a good evening.
[11:18] <jmdc> tronyx: you could probably leave your root partition at 7 gigs. That gives you more than enough space for any programs you ever install. Its always good to have wiggle room.
[11:18] <tronyx> i guess I keep thinking of the root partition as c:\
[11:19] <jhaig> tronyx: Without the c:
[11:19] <tronyx> LOL so true jhaig
[11:19] <jmdc> :-)
[11:19] <tronyx> incredibly beginner questing incoming *warning*
[11:19] <jhaig> tronyx: Linux doesn't have drive letters.  Everything is mounted in a single directory tree.
[11:19] <wwwjek>  
[11:20] <Sound> I'm trying to install 7.04 desktop on a x86. I get the splash screen, then I boot in normal or safe mode, it shows the progress bar and it keeps moving forever. VT1 only shows "Loading..."
[11:20] <tronyx> so if i install a program like deluge or hmmm....anything, a game, media player, etc, it's kept in /home?
[11:20] <livenicely> my ubuntu now contains so much errors and problem like desktop , panel , firefox and many more. it is 2 months old installation. have u know any command to solve these problem i mean check all packages and remove and install like apt-get install -f
[11:20] <jmdc> tronyx: nope
[11:20] <benclinch> Hey all, when I boot server edition, how come it comes up with a load of stuff starting _after_ the username prompt? How can I make it do it before? It doesn't affect anything except how it looks.
[11:20] <jmdc> tronyx: /home is like documents and settings.
[11:20] <jhaig> tronyx: It depends how you install it, but usually no.
[11:20] <Sound> has anyone ideas about my hang described above?
[11:21] <tronyx> so how is 7 gigs enough room?
[11:21] <smmagic> Anyone know why my keyboard freezes on java?
[11:21] <modumass> hey all, i cant do a distro update, i keep getting this error.. http://www.pastebin.org/4954 any help would be awesome
[11:21] <modumass> ive noted what ive done in the link
[11:21] <jmdc> tronyx: the filesystem is all 1 tree. You mount the 7 gigs at the root. Everything uses that 7 gigs. Then you mount everything else at /home. Now /home uses the large partition instead.
[11:22] <jmdc> tronyx: so, the fact that there are multiple partitions is hidden from you.
[11:22] <tronyx> i need to do a lot of googling in the morning...
[11:23] <livenicely> livenicely@DigitalMedia:~$ sudo apt-get install -f
[11:23] <livenicely> Password:
[11:23] <livenicely> Reading package lists... Done
[11:23] <livenicely> Building dependency tree
[11:23] <livenicely> Reading state information... Done
[11:23] <livenicely> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 67 not upgraded.
[11:23] <livenicely> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[11:23] <livenicely> Need to get 0B of archives.
[11:23] <livenicely> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[11:23] <livenicely> Setting up clvm (2.02.06-2ubuntu9) ...
[11:23] <livenicely> Starting Cluster LVM Daemon clvmd could not connect to cluster manager
[11:23] <livenicely> Consult syslog for more information
[11:23] <livenicely> invoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed.
[11:23] <Sound> use pastebot!
[11:23] <livenicely> dpkg: error processing clvm (--configure):
[11:23] <livenicely>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[11:23] <livenicely> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:23] <livenicely>  clvm
[11:23] <jmdc> livenicely stop!
[11:23] <livenicely> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:23] <benclinch> Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
[11:23] <Sound> livenicely: don't do that again.
[11:23] <jmdc> !pastebot
[11:23] <benclinch> For the love of god, no!
[11:23] <jmdc> ubotu: !paste
[11:24] <jmdc> hmmm, I lose
[11:24] <tronyx> !pastebin
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:24] <livenicely> i am so much disturbed
[11:24] <tronyx> as are we
[11:24] <tomato^> hi all can someone tell help me about cron job?
[11:24] <tronyx> jmdc, jhaig, night and thanks again for your assistance
[11:24] <livenicely> only in 3 hours my normal ubuntu becomes monster
[11:25] <tomato^> e.g. i have a script, andd i want it to run every minute can somone tell me how to o it?
[11:25] <wwwjek>  
[11:25] <livenicely> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:26] <bman> hello
[11:27] <tomato^> can someone help me pls?
[11:27] <jmdc> tomato^: try man crontab.
[11:27] <bman> any known issue with gutsy that would cause networking issues?  I am having problems connecting to anything from the GUI without pinging from the command line first
[11:28] <bman> tomato> what kind of help?
[11:28] <LifeSF> i cannot wait till a version of ubuntu works on my laptop
[11:28] <jmdc> LifeSF: what doesn't worK?
[11:28] <LifeSF> it doesn't load lol
[11:28] <LifeSF> liveCD
[11:28] <lbo_> Have a problem, I cant get my network card to work,its a dell optiplex 755, according to novell the fix is to add kernel param newid="0x8086 0x10bd,e1000", but thats for novell linux. what do I do to get it working with ubuntu?!?
[11:28] <LifeSF> i don't wanna crash it unless i'm sure it'll run properly completely
[11:28] <bman> according to novell?
[11:29] <LifeSF> i've tried 7.04 and 7.10 all updates so far
[11:29] <LifeSF> two linux distros livecds worked but i wanted ubuntu lol... can't wait :)
[11:29] <RantingHuman> !vsync
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <Invert314> woooo
[11:30] <bman> i cant search at all to get my issue, cant connect without pinging a host first for some reason
[11:30] <LifeSF> actually ubuntu doesn't really want to start loading drivers unless i unplug it and when i do it eventually detects a few
[11:30] <LifeSF> then freezes
[11:30] <kane77> does anyone have experience with bluetooth gps devices? do they work in ubuntu?
[11:30] <Invert314> Gutsy > Vista
[11:31] <jmdc> LifeSF - tell us about your hardware.
[11:31] <jessereyj> hello
[11:31] <jessereyj> i would like to inform you about our services if you are interested. we offer affordable prices. please visit our website http://jrjbusinesssolutions.com
[11:31] <jessereyj> thanks a million
[11:32] <Delphinus> any noticible performance enhancements by running 64bit over 32bit?
[11:32] <Midkniht> hrmm
[11:32] <Midkniht> anyone adept at gutsy netowrking issues?
[11:32] <jessereyj> This is a great Business opportunity you wouldn't like to miss!!
[11:33] <Midkniht> someone kick him
[11:33] <jessereyj> sorry
[11:33] <jessereyj> i have to go now
[11:33] <jessereyj> bye
[11:33] <jessereyj> God bless you
[11:33] <MasterShrek> !ops
[11:33] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[11:33] <LifeSF> oh we can't pm?
[11:34] <LifeSF> hmm well it's a : hp pavilion dv9428ca
[11:34] <AndrewB> !register | LifeSF
[11:34] <ubotu> LifeSF: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:34] <Delphinus> LifeSF: are you a registered user?
[11:34] <lbo_> anyone able to help, on how to get my network card working with ubuntu?
[11:34] <Midkniht> whole bunch of updates just came through
[11:35] <Midkniht> can you ping lbo_?
[11:35] <LifeSF> no...
[11:35] <jmdc> LifeSF - I don't know HPs numbering system. Can you just give us a general sense of it - when did you buy it, etc
[11:35] <LifeSF> about two months ago
[11:35] <modumass> so when is guts going to be supported, i mean the "upgrade distro" button is there, in the update manager
[11:35] <jmdc> new and shiney, eh?
[11:36] <LifeSF> yup, and so far been enjoying learning linux with ubuntu
[11:36] <joelsw> 1080I is nice on linux
[11:36] <lbo_> Midkniht: no, I cant even load it... its a brand new dell computer. only thing I found on google was to add newid="0x8086 0x10bd,e1000" to kernel param, but thats novell linux... :(
[11:36] <jmdc> LifeSF: I thought it didn't boot?
[11:36] <LifeSF> not on my laptop
[11:36] <jmdc> modumass: the release is in 2 days.
[11:36] <Midkniht> gutsy is supported as of thursday
[11:36] <LifeSF> my pc; it's all fine and better as the releases come
[11:37] <LifeSF> but i can't get it on my laptop
[11:37] <jmdc> LifeSF: oh ok.
[11:37] <kondor101> using ubuntu 7.10 (if that makes any difference), i have a 2nd hdd mounted and working fine.  is it possible to add it to my "Places" pull down menu?  (its currently in a folder called nas2)
[11:37] <Midkniht> lbo_> have you tried to install from the live cd then see if the networking is working
[11:37] <LifeSF> and like i said, i don't wanna crash the lap unless i'm positive it'll do what i want lol
[11:38] <Midkniht> kondor101> right click on the folder in nautilus to add to places
[11:38] <lbo_> Midkniht: livecd doesnt detect the network card, thats the problem
[11:38] <jmdc> kondor101> sometimes its called a bookmark
[11:38] <Midkniht> thats what i mean it may be detected after install, live may not get it
[11:39] <Midkniht> 52 updates just came through
[11:39] <Midkniht> update first
[11:39] <Midkniht> irc.stonedworld.net
[11:39] <Midkniht> eww
[11:39] <Midkniht> err
[11:39] <Midkniht> sorry
[11:39] <LifeSF> is midkniht talking to me? i easily get lost
[11:40] <Midkniht> nope not you lifesf but its cool if it applies to you too
[11:40] <Midkniht> heh
[11:40] <LifeSF> i don't have scripts on my itc
[11:40] <LifeSF> lol
[11:40] <kondor101> midkniht  got it, i opened the folder and added a bookmark.  thanks so much
[11:40] <LifeSF> nah just thought you were mentioning to install ubuntu to test out it's full install
[11:40] <wikipedia> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggunit
[11:41] <LifeSF> but like i'm saying i love the livecd since it for sure points out what will for sure work and all
[11:41] <lbo_> midkniht: no, I installed ubuntu, and still cant find the netcard
[11:41] <Midkniht> damn
[11:41] <Midkniht> hrmm
[11:41] <Midkniht> in a optiplex?
[11:41] <Midkniht> works on mine from live
[11:41] <wikipedia> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggunit
[11:41] <wikipedia> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
[11:41] <Midkniht> maybe your onboard card is bad
[11:41] <lbo_> midkniht yeah, optiplex 755
[11:42] <AndrewB> !ops | wikipedia
[11:42] <ubotu> wikipedia: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[11:42] <tomato^> my cron jobs wont work can someone help me
[11:42] <lbo_> midkniht: network card works great, no problems with it, its becourse its a new computer and its a new network card
[11:42] <tomato^> here's what my crontab -e content
[11:42] <lbo_> midkniht: only linux that has a problem
[11:43] <tomato^> m     h  dom mon dow   command
[11:43] <Midkniht> lbo_ check dell support on it?
[11:43] <tomato^> 01    *   *   *   *   /home/unison/cron/mysql
[11:43] <Keypad> Does any one have experience with setting my linux box as a wifi point for my laptop ? Ive got my wifi drivers installed. I just need some help
[11:43] <lbo_> midkniht: dell doesnt support linux
[11:43] <Midkniht> i cant digg at the moemnt because i have no reliable networking in gutsy
[11:43] <Midkniht> heh
[11:44] <nekcaikas> i wonder if i should begin work using ubuntu on my macbook (dual with os x)
[11:44] <nekcaikas> or shall i just leave it as it is..
[11:44] <abhibera> can anyone help me with pkg-config? i messed it up totally
[11:44] <abhibera> !pkg-config
[11:44] <nanonyme> abhibera, erm, what did you do?
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <LifeSF> jmdc: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01071123&lc=en&cc=ca&dlc=en&product=3446408&rule=29967&lang=en
[11:44] <MasterShrek> !dpkg-reconfigure
[11:45] <Oli``> How can I change the minimum lengths for user passwords?
[11:45] <kane77> does anyone have experience with bluetooth gps devices? do they work in ubuntu?
[11:46] <Midkniht> bluetooth works, dont know on gps
[11:46] <Midkniht> i use a audio gateway and a headphone set
[11:46] <abhibera> nanonyme: i was cross compiling some packages and now my pkg-config points to my toolchain library instead of my local machine library
[11:46] <tomato^> where does logs of crontab located on ubuntu?
[11:47] <Midkniht> /var/log
[11:47] <tomato^> i cant find it under /var/log
[11:47] <abhibera> nanonyme: now when i do a pkg-config --cflags <package> it points to my toolchain directory
[11:47] <abhibera> nanonyme: how do i get it back?
[11:47] <abhibera> !pkg-config
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <Midkniht> tomato^> /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd
[11:48] <Midkniht> /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd
[11:49] <Midkniht> !google
[11:49] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[11:49] <M_WS> I just removed everything to do with windows and installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop. Everything's ok but I can't get my wireless card to connect to a network. And when i plugin an internet cable, it says it's connected, but there's no activity.
[11:49] <jussi01> !wifi | M_WS
[11:49] <ubotu> M_WS: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:50] <tomato^> can some one tell me where the logfiles of crontab located?
[11:50] <M_WS> thanks
[11:50] <Midkniht> M_WS > click the icon that looks like two teminals overlapped in the status bar
[11:50] <cidwel> hi all
[11:50] <Midkniht> should list wireless netwroks
[11:50] <jmdc> LifeSF: make sure you are using the 64 bit edition
[11:50] <LifeSF> yes lol
[11:50] <Midkniht> tomato> I told you where it was
[11:51] <nanonyme> abhibera, no idea, i'd cross-compile under a chroot to avoid messing up my installation
[11:51] <abhibera> nanonyme: what's a chroot?
[11:51] <cidwel> there is a way to make the openoffice writter to put by default the alignment of the entire page centered like word and not at the left side? >_<
[11:51] <Midkniht> chroot lets you mount another root filesystem under linux
[11:52] <nanonyme> midkniht, or to another location on the same filesystem
[11:52] <Midkniht> ruite
[11:52] <nanonyme> abhibera, you can have an ubuntu inside an ubuntu
[11:52] <SALE> good question cidwel. I'd like the answer as well :D
[11:52] <cidwel> doh :S
[11:53] <Midkniht> where is my joint at
[11:53] <Midkniht> damnit
[11:53] <Midkniht> need it
[11:53] <Midkniht> found it woo!
[11:53] <abhibera> nanonyme: huh!??!?!?!? u mean XNEST?
[11:54] <Midkniht> nope
[11:54] <Midkniht> its for setting "/" root to somewhere else
[11:55] <varka> Oli``: /etc/pam.d/common-password
[11:56] <nanonyme> abhibera, i mean like you have an ubuntu installation in like /fs/ubuntu, then you do chroot /fs/ubuntu /bin/bash and use that environment normally. the best you can do is break the chrooted ubuntu linking
[11:58] <Keypad2> Can some one please help me setup my ubuntu box as a wifi point ???
[11:58] <Keypad2> Ive been trying for hours
[11:58] <SALE> did anyone managed to install patch fow ipw2200 wifi card for packet injecting? I tried but i just can't get any ARP requests :-(
[11:58] <Midkniht> well slow down take a break, smoke a joint and relax
[11:58] <RantingHuman> Is there a way to force vsync on? Nvidia and Gutsy RC being used.
[11:59] <G_Washington> what is the open source license type that allows commercial and closed source derivations?
[12:00] <Keypad2> Can any one help me with my wifi problems ?
[12:00] <Ayabara> any compiz-users here? how can I make the expos-stuff work? f10,f11 and f12 doesn't do anything for me
[12:00] <Midkniht> G_Washington > BSD license allows that
[12:00] <atika> Hai ,aku atika siapa namakamu ?aku pingin kenalan .
[12:01] <Keypad2> I got my drivers installed, I just cant get it to share the internet with firestarter
[12:01] <SALE> english please atika!
[12:01] <Midkniht> new kernel in todays updates, you should update before asking gutsy questions
[12:01] <M_WS> I often get (13 permission denied) - how do I create root permissons on my user?
[12:01] <atika> Ok,whats your name ?
[12:02] <Midkniht> M_WS? wjat do u mean?
[12:02] <M_WS> Midkniht - I get things like "Cold not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists..." when I try things in the terminal window
[12:03] <RantingHuman> Ayabara, do you have the compiz settings manager installed?
[12:03] <Midkniht> M_WS> use "sudo" before the command
[12:03] <Ayabara> RantingHuman: yep
[12:03] <Keypad2> I guess all the cool people that normaly help me our are busy / sleeping
[12:03] <atika> I'm women,and you?
[12:03] <Midkniht> keypad2> no offense I could help you but my networking isnt allowing me to search google at the moment
[12:04] <Midkniht> atika! atika! atika!
[12:04] <Keypad2> But your Irc works ?
[12:04] <RantingHuman> Ayabara, And enabled expo, etc? Then, try super key + e. (windows button + e)
[12:04] <rasta> I am having a slight issue with resolution.  Despite all my efforts i cannot find anything on how to fix it.  My screen reso will only go to 800x600.  I edited the xorg.conf and tried a few other things.  Anyone care to help?
[12:04] <Ayabara> RantingHuman: that works fine
[12:04] <Midkniht> yeah its fuked up i can do msot things from the terminal if i ping the host first but nothing works from the gui
[12:05] <Ayabara> RantingHuman: but the other ones I think exist (show all windows from an application, show all windows) aren't there
[12:05] <Midkniht> rasta> run " sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" then try to kill X and retry
[12:05] <lbo_> Can anyone help getting my network card to work in ubuntu linux? Optiplex 755, novell linux needs kernel param newid="0x8086 0x10bd,e1000", what does ubuntu needs?!?
[12:06] <M_WS> midkniht: when I do $sudo make uninstall - There's another persmisson denied. how do i change that?
[12:06] <Ayabara> RantingHuman: I'm looking at the "Default Key Bindings" stuff on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/ConfiguringCompiz
[12:06] <Midkniht> lbo_> have you tried ubuntu with those same params?
[12:06] <rasta> thanks Midkniht. Ill try that.
[12:06] <Midkniht> M_WS> what are you trying to make uninstall on?
[12:06] <Coremonkey22> anyone awake?
[12:06] <Coremonkey22> tighttttt
[12:06] <lbo_> midkniht: yeah, there isnt anything called newid to grup
[12:06] <Midkniht> hrmm
[12:07] <Midkniht> as soon as i can get networking rite again i can search
[12:07] <M_WS> midkniht: Im trying to install ndiswrapper according to the thing here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[12:07] <lbo_> midknight: I presume I have to add something to "modprobe e1000"
[12:07] <Coremonkey22> So check this, Im running vista, and i install virtual pc 2007, install unbuntu 7.04 get everything running.....then i reboot the virtual machine, now my sound and my wireless doesnt work....odd? any help? :] 
[12:07] <Midkniht> M_WS> if you installing it then why are you doing make uninstall?
[12:08] <Midkniht> virtualpc doesnt support ubuntu
[12:08] <M_WS> I'm merely doing what it tells me ;)
[12:08] <RantingHuman> Ayabara, Sorry, I don't think I know enough to help :)
[12:08] <rasta> Should I need to restart Midkniht?
[12:08] <Coremonkey22> but it was working?
[12:08] <Ayabara> RantingHuman: thanks for trying :-)
[12:08] <Midkniht> rasta> a ctrl-alt-backspace should do it
[12:08] <Coremonkey22> and i have ubuntu running in vpc
[12:08] <Coremonkey22> =\
[12:08] <Midkniht> may need to reboot though
[12:09] <Midkniht> i didnt say it wouldnt run, just not supported in virtual pc, microsof prolly does something to break it
[12:09] <Coremonkey22> rofl
[12:09] <Coremonkey22> its just wierd how i had it running for a bit then as soon as i rebooted shit went donkey kong on me
[12:09] <Coremonkey22> =[
[12:09] <Midkniht> tried vmware?
[12:09] <Coremonkey22> vmware costs $$$
[12:09] <Coremonkey22> =[
[12:09] <Midkniht> not if you have ur image already
[12:10] <Midkniht> vmware player is free
[12:10] <Crozar> problems with app's is theyr dont tell you how to install the stuff with it
[12:10] <SlimG> Petition against OOXML: http://www.noooxml.org
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> where could i get an image?
[12:10] <Crozar> guys how to installplugins for kopete ?
[12:10] <Midkniht> there are downloadable images all over
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> or u talkin bout the ubuntu image
[12:10] <Ayabara> Coremonkey22: VMware server is free as well, I think
[12:10] <lbo_> sudo bash
[12:10] <Midkniht> ubuntu vm
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> so jus go find a vmware image?
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> gotcha
[12:10] <nrdb> Coremonkey22: there is vmware-player
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> right
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> players free?
[12:10] <Midkniht> yep
[12:10] <Ayabara> Coremonkey22: on the VMware site you have lotsa Appliances you can download
[12:10] <Crozar> Coremonkey22: get virtualbox !virtualbox
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> nifty, so i jus gotta find a vmware image of ubuntu
[12:10] <Crozar> !virtualbox
[12:10] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> cool
[12:11] <Airwulf> hello to you all
[12:11] <Midkniht> !google vmware ubuntu
[12:11] <Midkniht> damnit
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> thanks for all the help guys <3
[12:11] <Midkniht> no search
[12:11] <Crozar> Coremonkey22: you want to use windows and vmware ubuntu ? LooooL
[12:11] <Midkniht> heh
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> :P
[12:11] <Ayabara> VMware server is also free and enables you to make your own image
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> not me, room mate
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> lol
[12:11] <Crozar> omG
[12:11] <xloler> hello
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> im dual booting ubuntu and xp
[12:11] <Crozar> i removed XP to the trash
[12:11] <smmagic> Is virtualbox good?
[12:11] <xloler> is search a german user ;D
[12:11] <xloler> I
[12:12] <Coremonkey22> ew vista
[12:12] <Coremonkey22> yuckkkk
[12:12] <Crozar> and sold the cd key for cheap + a bonus CD on a slick case called ubuntu with a letter of why the key is cheap
[12:12] <Stevethe1irate> d
[12:12] <Airwulf> when I add "neugebau        ALL = /sbin/lbst/ldap/courseshow" to /etc/sudoers. why must user neugebau enter root passwort when calling 'sudo <cmd>'?
[12:12] <Stevethe1irate> y0
[12:12] <Coremonkey22> id use ubu 24/7 but i still have some win apps i need to run
[12:12] <Coremonkey22> unless theres opensource virtualization for ubuntu?
[12:12] <smmagic> I think virtualbox
[12:12] <Midkniht> gutsy updates almost finished for the day ! woo!
[12:12] <xloler> ist hier ein deutscher?
[12:12] <xloler> ich mchte meine festplatte partitionieren, kann mir jemand eine anleitung schiccken
[12:13] <nanonyme> !de
[12:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:13] <Crozar> guys how to install kopete plugins , i dont see a plugins folder in usr/shares/kopete and i dont see 1 in home folder
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> is virtualbox win based or lin?
[12:13] <Gin> Coremonkey22, try virtualbox or vmware
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> going to do that :] 
[12:13] <Midkniht> virtualbox is for everything
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> *_*
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> hott
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> off to google land i go
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> :] 
[12:13] <Stevethe1irate> my X is screwed since i took out my nv 7600 gtx, using onbaord for now... I've tried dpkg-reconfiguring.. but to no avail...
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> have a good night/morning gents
[12:13] <Stevethe1irate> !qemu | Coremonkey22
[12:13] <ubotu> Coremonkey22: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[12:13] <Midkniht> Steve> whats it do?
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> wow
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> so many lol
[12:14] <nrdb> Coremonkey22: have a look at Xen
[12:14] <Coremonkey22> k so xen, qemu, virtualbox, vmware
[12:14] <Coremonkey22> any others i should know about ;)
[12:14] <Midkniht> those are the major ones
[12:14] <M_WS> How can I check the Charset on my Ubuntu?
[12:14] <Coremonkey22> :]  thx sir
[12:14] <Coremonkey22> enjoy ur bowl friend
[12:14] <Stevethe1irate> Midkniht: it like looks like its changing resolution.. then it phails.. .and i get an error message saying "X-server has been shutdown, try again in 2 mins"
[12:14] <Midkniht> virtual pc if you get the version before connectix sold it
[12:14] <Midkniht> heh
[12:14] <Coremonkey22> i wish it was still connectix owned
[12:15] <Midkniht> me too
[12:15] <Coremonkey22> fkin monoposoft
[12:15] <Midkniht> i liked it
[12:15] <Stevethe1irate> .. back to X issues :P ....
[12:15] <presto1> should i be able to acsess my ntfe external hdd while im testing my live cd
[12:15] <Coremonkey22> btw, when 7.1 comes out, they have any plans to support widescreen resolutions?
[12:15] <presto1> ntfs
[12:15] <Stevethe1irate> presto1: not by default.
[12:15] <Crozar> guys how to install kopete additional plugins??? anybody
[12:15] <smmagic> Can you install a virtual machine with a upgrade disc?
[12:16] <Midkniht> whats a upgrade disc?
[12:16] <smmagic> Windows upgrade disc
[12:16] <Coremonkey22> no
[12:16] <Stevethe1irate> no\
[12:16] <Midkniht> Steve>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg didnt work?
[12:16] <smmagic> Dang..
[12:16] <Coremonkey22> smmagic u got a cd key?
[12:16] <Midkniht> umm linux support
[12:16] <eulogy_> Coremonkey22, I'm running the 7.10 RC on Widescreen and it looks perfect. It does have better resolution support than 7.04
[12:16] <Midkniht> not winderz
[12:16] <smmagic> Yes
[12:16] <Stevethe1irate> No, chose 'intel' as drivers.. failed, tried vesa, also failed
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> then im sure u can find an image of full version somewhere
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> just look around ;)
[12:17] <Crozar> guys how to install kopete additional plugins??? anybody
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> really? thanks eulogy :] 
[12:17] <Stevethe1irate> will.. with 'intel' drivers, it loaded.. but like crashed when i logged in
[12:17] <eulogy_> No problem.
[12:17] <presto1> stevethe1irate how hard is it to set up
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> mines a lil blotchy =[
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> nothin too terrible
[12:17] <smmagic> Anyone know a windows xp full image? :D
[12:17] <eulogy_> Yes I had the same problem in 7.04
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> is RC a beta?
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> i didnt think 7.10 was out
[12:18] <Midkniht> 7.10 is out on thrusday
[12:18] <M_WS> Where do I check my default charset in Ubuntu?
[12:18] <eulogy_> RC is a release candidate.
[12:18] <Stevethe1irate> presto1: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g && sudo nano /etc/fstab [then add the line to it]  then sudo mount -a
[12:18] <Coremonkey22> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[12:18] <Coremonkey22> lucky bastard :P
[12:18] <eulogy_> Alpha -> Beta -> RC
[12:18] <smmagic> No one has a windows xp image?
[12:18] <presto1> ah ok
[12:18] <Coremonkey22> smmagic: torrents :] 
[12:18] <Stevethe1irate> smmagic: i do.. want me to ssh? :P
[12:18] <smmagic> Torrents..
[12:18] <smmagic> So slow
[12:18] <smmagic> If you can steve
[12:18] <Midkniht> smmagic> this is not a warez channel or windows support channel
[12:18] <eulogy_> Demonoid.
[12:18] <smmagic> K then
[12:19] <Stevethe1irate> !warez | smmagic
[12:19] <ubotu> smmagic: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[12:19] <Coremonkey22> liek i said, google
[12:19] <Stevethe1irate> Midkniht: like, X loads with 'intel' drivers... but when i log in, it hangs then crashes....
[12:19] <Midkniht> hrmm
[12:19] <Stevethe1irate> please Midkniht .. got liek a project due in < 38 mins
[12:19] <Coremonkey22> how many changes are in 7.1 eulogy
[12:19] <Midkniht> thinking
[12:19] <Coremonkey22> anything drastic?
[12:19] <Stevethe1irate> should i put 'intel' back
[12:20] <Midkniht> after you did the reconfigure did you kill X?
[12:20] <Midkniht> ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:20] <Stevethe1irate> Midkniht: no.. /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:20] <Stevethe1irate> oO.. my nick is wrong.. lol
[12:20] <Midkniht> i think i had to reboot to get it off the nvidia drivers and back to on board video
[12:21] <Stevethe1irate> Midkniht: done that as well
[12:21] <Stevethe1irate> [since that] 
[12:21] <Coremonkey22> eulogy_: any drastic changes in 7.10?
[12:21] <Midkniht> i did the reconfigure then reboot and that was it
[12:21] <Midkniht> sorry cant help more
[12:21] <eulogy_> Drastic? Yes I believe so. Compiz Fusion comes built in.
[12:21] <Stevethe1irate> okay. let me fix
[12:21] <eulogy_> Like Beryl with Mepis.
[12:21] <Midkniht> lots of drastic changes in gutsy
[12:22] <Stevethe1irate> [back to intel] 
[12:22] <Coremonkey22> changelog anywhere?
[12:22] <eulogy_> Yea let me link you.
[12:22] <Coremonkey22> preciated :)
[12:22] <Midkniht> woo updates installed
[12:22] <Midkniht> rebooting
[12:22] <Midkniht> brb
[12:23] <eulogy_> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc
[12:23] <Coremonkey22> ty sir
[12:23] <eulogy_> Quite welcome.
[12:23] <Coremonkey22> *high five* for all ur help :)
[12:23] <eulogy_> ^^
[12:24] <M_WS> I like to recode a .reg file, where do I check my default charset in Ubuntu 7.04?
[12:24] <thesaint4444> hi guys, anyone know how to make a bookmark for a command like ssh in konsole? sick of typing it in every time.....
[12:24] <de-pe> hio
[12:24] <Coremonkey22> You might be a nerd if: You've been playing with ur computer for 15 hours straight.
[12:24] <Coremonkey22> -_-
[12:24] <Coremonkey22> actually, longer than that =\
[12:24] <Stevethe1irate> Sighs.. okay.. my Xserver login screen loads.. i put my username and password.. then X hangs .. then reboots...
[12:24] <kyja> daily
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> I started messin around on here around 3pm yesterday, its now 7am
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> lmfao
[12:25] <eulogy_> Christ man.
[12:25] <Stevethe1irate> thesaint4444: like ssh bob@some.random.server ?
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> yeah
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> ive got a problem
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> =[
[12:25] <_awk_> /quit
[12:25] <eulogy_> Steve, what card are you running?
[12:25] <_awk_> :)
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> im a web developer/sys admin though
[12:25] <Stevethe1irate> intel onboard
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> gotta keep on top of stuff
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> -_-
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> startin to learn ruby on rails
[12:25] <Stevethe1irate> i had a 7600gtx.. but was having heat issues.. so took that out...
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> so that took a good chunk of my day
[12:25] <de-pe> what?
[12:26] <eulogy_> Ah man I'm not sure what to tell you. Sorry mate.
[12:26] <Stevethe1irate> eulogy_: huhs?
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> if you guys havent heard of it yet, id HIGHLY suggest looking into it
[12:26] <de-pe> hi bottiger?
[12:26] <Stevethe1irate> ruby on rails?, Coremonkey22 ?
[12:26] <thesaint4444> Stevethe1irate: yes.. just like that...
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> www.rubyonrails.org
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> its like
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> on the fly coding
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> its INSANE
[12:26] <Stevethe1irate> Coremonkey22: python > **
[12:26] <Stevethe1irate> gtf0
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> so much faster and easier than php
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> or asp for that matter
[12:27] <Coremonkey22> AJAX ftw
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> thesaint4444: : pico ~/ssh.sh
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> then add "ssh username@server"
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> save the file
[12:27] <Coremonkey22> u know what i <3 about ubuntu
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> then "chmod 777 ssh.sh"
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> then you can ./ssh.sh
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> to connect
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> i was compiling all the apache packages today and installing php and mysql
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> and it all just connected itself
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> automatically
[12:28] <Stevethe1irate> Good OSes do that though Coremonkey22 ....
[12:28] <Lunz> malaysia locoteam is already exist but not active and seems dead..what should i do?
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> :-P
[12:28] <eulogy_> I switched to Ubuntu because I hate Windows.
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> and this pidgin app is pretty neat too
[12:28] <Stevethe1irate> I have windows still.. just for gaming..
[12:28] <poesty> DASD
[12:28] <Stevethe1irate> and DC++
[12:28] <eulogy_> I use cedega for gaming on Ubuntu.
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> whenever someone says my nick, it highlights their name
[12:29] <thesaint4444> Stevethe1irate: so add the command into the file and then run the file as a shell script?
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> Coremonkey22: most irc clients do that.....
[12:29] <poesty> HI BETUL
[12:29] <Coremonkey22> not mirc :-P
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> thesaint4444: basically.
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> You can make mirc
[12:29] <poesty> I DONT UNDERSTAND?
[12:29] <eulogy_> Xchat does it for you.
[12:29] <Coremonkey22> yeah i agree
[12:29] <Coremonkey22> xchat is pretty pimp
[12:29] <poesty> HOW
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> as a script... .replace('Steve','/bSteve'
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> or something
[12:29] <Lunz> irssi is better
[12:29] <wizo> irssi and mirc can do that too Coremonkey22
[12:29] <poesty> JSIFH
[12:29] <Coremonkey22> easy on the caps bro lol
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> xchat is for chinese people :P
[12:29] <Coremonkey22> really?
[12:29] <eulogy_> I'm not sure what you're talking about poesty.
[12:30] <poesty> HI CAREMONKEY 22
[12:30] <Coremonkey22> ....hi
[12:30] <Lunz> why so many caps?
[12:30] <Coremonkey22> Attention :)
[12:30] <wizo> Coremonkey22, i'm using mirc and i've done mine so when someone says my name it highlights the line
[12:30] <eulogy_> Caps key broken.
[12:30] <Coremonkey22> caps lock key is 1/4" from ur pinky
[12:30] <thesaint4444> Stevethe1irate: ok, but there is also some inbuilt functionality in Konsole that lets you save your commands and 'bookmark' them i just cant remember how to do it...
[12:30] <Coremonkey22> wizo: i guess im just not very explorative huh :P
[12:30] <Lr5> Umm, shouldn't java plugin used by firefox be ns7-gcc29, not ns7?
[12:31] <wizo> what you said is in green :p
[12:31] <Lr5> It currently is ns7
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> =D
[12:31] <eulogy_> Oh man. Dude. Knowing the exact measurement the caps lock key is from your pinky is worse than playing for 15 hours straight.
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> maddock
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> :)
[12:31] <wizo> lol
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> maddox*
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> yeah, id say im tired
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> never read maddox before eulogy?
[12:32] <eulogy_> Never.
[12:32] <eulogy_> Any good?
[12:32] <Stevethe1irate> thesaint4444: sigh.. dunno.. i use like, true konsole console.. like.. no copy paste even. [atm] 
[12:32] <Coremonkey22> You should invest your time, its quite hilarious
[12:32] <Coremonkey22> one sec ill link ya
[12:32] <eulogy_> Preciate it.
[12:32] <Coremonkey22> http://maddox.xmission.com/
[12:32] <Coremonkey22> Quite welcome ;)
[12:33] <thesaint4444> Stevethe1irate: true konsole? what is that?
[12:33] <eulogy_> Thank you.
[12:34] <Coremonkey22> OH WOW! Desktop effects in 7.10, im psyched. More things to hassle my POS box XD
[12:34] <eulogy_> It's fantastic imo.
[12:34] <Oli``> lol
[12:34] <eulogy_> Ah. Brb. Restart.
[12:34] <Coremonkey22> :] 
[12:36] <lbo_> midkniht: think I found out why... my nic isnt supported until 2.6.22 fedora kernels... and ubuntu livecd is 2.6.20
[12:36] <adante> hi
[12:36] <adante> is there a place or repository i can go to get reasonable up to date software?
[12:37] <IdleOne> !repos | adante
[12:37] <ubotu> adante: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> WOOOOOOOOOO
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> THEY FINALLY DECIDED TO LET US WRITE TO NTFS PARTS?
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> hottttt
[12:38] <eulogy_> You need sleep dude.
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> sorry for the caps :(
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> yeah
[12:38] <eulogy_> Haha
[12:38] <adante> IdleOne: thanks, yes i've obtained a passing familiarity with the system, i have opened up all the repositories and the backport, but i'm still finding this stuff is a little out of date
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> I think i'm going to rid the room of my stupidity
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> :)
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> and catch some Z'zzzzz
[12:38] <adante> IdleOne: i was more looking for recommendations on repositories, if anybody had any
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> I'll be around tomorrow ish <3
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> ya know, 5 pm
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> or so
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> ;)
[12:39] <adante> er, specific repositories that is
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> take care eulogy
[12:39] <eulogy_> Alright take it easy man.
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> read that maddox stuff
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> its good material
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> =] 
[12:39] <eulogy_> Will do
[12:39] <eulogy_> Already am
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> take care sir
[12:39] <eulogy_> You too
[12:39] <liberum> Anyone knows how to mount a truecrypt volume without write protection? The -u parameter doesn't do it for me
[12:39] <Coremonk22> yahhhh
[12:39] <lbo_> will, ubuntu 7.10 come with kernel 2.6.22+ ?
[12:39] <Coremonk22> right
[12:39] <Coremonk22> i give up
[12:40] <Coremonk22> night :P
[12:40] <eulogy_> Lol.
[12:40] <eulogy_> These are the current notes lbo, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc.
[12:40] <Tomcat_> lbo_: Yes, 2.6.22.
[12:41] <lbo_> Tomcat_: so it will support my intel 82566DM-2 nic?
[12:41] <M_WS> I do "$cd ndiswrapper-1.42" then "$sudo make install" then when i type "$sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/.driver/wifi/DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf" - it says "ndiswrapper: command not found" - what am i doign wrong?
[12:41] <newubuntu> Hellllooooo
[12:41] <newubuntu> everyone out there
[12:41] <dA_ShArP> hi all, I have a bluetooth enabled Phone with which I take photographs. Now when I try to send those photos from my mobile via bluetooth.... my mobile detects my computer but when I send it it shows sending failed :(
[12:42] <adante> for instance, i need the latest version of git - is it possible to get this from apt or do i need to compile it myself?
[12:42] <Tomcat_> lbo_: If there's a driver for it? Better check with a LiveCD.
[12:42] <thesaint4444> Stevethe1irate: thanks...
[12:42] <opexoc> Why when I uswe printenv then I wont get every variable in my environment. The proof is execute of this command: echo ${!H*}. I get many variables which are not located in printenv.
[12:43] <M_WS> ...and I get loads of errrors and warnings when i $sudo make install ndiswrapper
[12:43] <lbo_> Tomcat_: I know fedora 7 has support for it... and novell linux, I just wonder if ubuntu has?!?
[12:44] <newubuntu> Hellloo..I am facing a problem..I dont get my DVDs automatically mounted on my Desktop of buntu 7.04...Instead Ihave to go to /media/adrom to browse my files...I would rally appreciate if some one can help me????????????
[12:45] <LifeSF> JMDC is GREAT HELP just wanted to point that out,... not for people to spam him,... but i give that guy a star :)
[12:45] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> Hey everyone. any israelies in this channel?
[12:45] <LifeSF> good night / day everyone
[12:45] <eulogy_> Good night Life
[12:46] <newubuntu> Helllo..I am facing a problem..I dont get my DVDs automatically mounted on my Desktop of Ubuntu 7.04...Instead I have to go to /media/cdrom to browse my files...I would rally appreciate if some one can help me????????????
[12:47] <M_WS> I do "$cd ndiswrapper-1.42" then "$sudo make install" then when i type "$sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/.driver/wifi/DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf" - it says "ndiswrapper: command not found" - what am i doign wrong?and I get loads of errrors and warnings when i $sudo make install ndiswrapper. I try to follow the instructions stated here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[12:47] <IdleOne> adante: to check versions of software that come with ubuntu check out http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:48] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> Hello, could someone tell me of a way to record image and sound with Istanbul?
[12:48] <IdleOne> M_WS: have you installed build-essential?
[12:48] <M_WS> IdleOne - I dont think I have. the only thing i have here is Ubuntu installed from the CD
[12:48] <newubuntu> Helllo..I am facing a problem..I dont get my DVDs(Data + Multimedia) automatically mounted on my Desktop of Ubuntu 7.04...Instead I have to go to /media/cdrom to browse my files...I would really appreciate if some one can help me????????????
[12:49] <M_WS> 7.04
[12:49] <adante> IdleOne: ok so git 1.5 does not seem to exist in official packages, i mean are there other repositories out there which would have this? how do i find them? or what do people do when they decide they want this and it's not available? just build themselves? do they do this for every program?
[12:49] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> Hello, could someone tell me of a way to record image and sound with Istanbul?
[12:49] <IdleOne> M_WS: ok sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:49] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> I've tried using recordmydektop but i get an error.
[12:49] <IdleOne> M_WS: then try your sudo make install command
[12:49] <Crozar> newubuntu: wait for ubuntu 7.10 comming out in 46 hours
[12:50] <IdleOne> adante: launchpad.net does have a section for users who create they're own packages
[12:50] <smmagic> On the beryl website which tar do I download?
[12:50] <Crozar> smmagic: you want to get beryL?
[12:50] <smmagic> Yes
[12:50] <eulogy_> I'd wait for 7.10, it has compiz-fusion built in.
[12:51] <Crozar> smmagic: ( compiz fusion is the extended project ) means its beryl but updated and now its name is compiz
[12:51] <M_WS> will try now, thanks idleone
[12:51] <smmagic> So which do I download?
[12:51] <eulogy_> What Crozar said :)
 newubuntu: wait for ubuntu 7.10 comming out in 46 hours << Why wait?
[12:52] <Oli``> It's pretty damned stable
[12:52] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> Hello, could someone tell me of a way to record image and sound with Istanbul? (ubuntu 7.04)
[12:52] <newubuntu> Crozar: What is the guarantee that this will not happen in Ubuntu 7.10???
[12:52] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> I've tried using recordmydektop but i get an error.
[12:52] <Crozar> smmagic: wait for 7.10 its comming out in 46 hours , and download that from www.ubuntu.com it will tell you a tutorial how toupdate from 7.03 ...... the new ubuntu version 7.10 gutsy has Compiz ( beryl ) built in stabled and with support
[12:52] <app_> How do I set the umask so that it affect also GUI components, Firefox etc. not only Bash?
[12:52] <app_> I don't see umask in User privileges in the Users GUI tool.
[12:53] <Oli``> GutsyGibbon-Dean: what do you mean? Istanbul does that for you =)
[12:53] <newubuntu> Crozar: Have any1else faced that problem???
[12:53] <Crozar> newubuntu: i have 7.10 theyr is things i thought no way they will find this no way nooo way and they did because i have updated this fix 8 days ago lol so i guess WAY maybe im on the fix , and if not you can report this , or ask for it
[12:53] <ProtonZ> connect irc://freenode/#claroline
[12:53] <ProtonZ> woops
[12:53] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> Oli: i've tried recording, but it doesn't save sound.
[12:53] <Blackkatt> guys... do i need to do anything with Linux (Ubuntu) system seems slow, do i defrag or such here?
[12:54] <Oli``> Oh I see... you might need to change your sound input (through the volume control) to stereo mix
[12:54] <Crozar> Blackkatt: your using the older ubuntu linux? do you have somehting running like beryl?
[12:54] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> ok. thank you.
[12:54] <Crozar> Blackkatt: ( beryl = Compiz )
[12:54] <Blackkatt> Crozar: i have the newest beta and no effects =)
[12:54] <smmagic> 46 hours till 7.10..
[12:54] <smmagic> So close yet so far
[12:54] <porkpie> guy's how do you set the time zone under ubuntu ... need to set it to CET
[12:54] <app_> So I've got umask u=rw,go= in .bashrc, but creating files with Firefox they are u=rw,go=r...
[12:54] <newubuntu> Crozar: Is their any way out???Please tell me over this....
[12:55] <blent> ehy guys how can i stop forever the process "beagle-search"?
[12:55] <Crozar> Blackkatt: many things may slow the computer , and yes i dont think you need a defrag or something , but check your system processes
[12:55] <Blackkatt> Crozar:  its possible to defrag?
[12:55] <Crozar> newubuntu: i have a DVD problem , i cant run DVD's it cant read them it says cant unmount
[12:55] <Crozar> newubuntu: i reported this bug long time ago theyr fixing it , not everything goes perfect you know , it depends on hardware specs
[12:55] <Tomcat_> Blackkatt: The Linux filesystems are generally engineered to not need any defrag. :)
[12:56] <eulogy_> I have the same problem Crozar. 7.10 RC?
[12:56] <Crozar> but as for your problem newubuntu its just something to do with software thing probebly it will be fixed with 7.10
[12:56] <Blackkatt> Tomcat_:  sounds good ;)
[12:56] <Crozar> yes 7.10 eulogy_beta
[12:56] <Tomcat_> Blackkatt: You shouldn't fill your partitions more than 90% or something, but that's all.
[12:56] <Tomcat_> Blackkatt: Because at that fill level, they cease being efficient.
[12:56] <Blackkatt> Tomcat_:  yeah i can see that =)
[12:56] <Crozar> i think he must check hes system processes
[12:56] <NixMan> can i dist-upgrade kubuntu right now?
[12:57] <Crozar> might have many bugged out processes from beta programs thats still froozen or lagged out
[12:57] <Crozar> Tomcat_: processes is another priority for ALl operating SYtems around the globe
[12:57] <NixMan> found this for ubuntu, how can i do this for kubuntu? http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/static/ubuntu_7_10_upgrade.html
[12:57] <Oli``> why not?
[12:57] <Crozar> NixMan: you have ubuntu 7.3?
[12:57] <Tomcat_> Crozar: Yes.
[12:57] <Blackkatt> can i update xbmc without reinstalling it?
[12:57] <Blackkatt> on ubuntu
[12:57] <Oli``> 7.4, no?
[12:57] <Crozar> NixMan: wait for ubuntu 7.10 its going to be  out within 46 hours
[12:57] <IdleOne> Crozar: it is ubuntu 7.04 not7.3
[12:57] <NixMan> Crozar: kubuntu 7.044
[12:58] <Oli``> where did all this 7.3 come from?
[12:58] <newubuntu> Crozar: It means there is no solution to it???And also please tell me about VCDs..When I put in some VCD, it also does not get mounted over desktop???
[12:58] <Crozar> oh ok , ya wait for 46 hours :)
[12:58] <Tomcat_> NixMan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3692aaaed415e3427f54ec62dd8659474516b525
[12:58] <Crozar> sorry 7.3 was from somethign else i remember this number
[12:59] <Crozar> 7.4 :/
[12:59] <app_> Look like I can change system wide umask default for bash in /etc/profile, but are all programs run through bash, no?
[12:59] <Oli``> NixMan: I say go for it. I've been on Gutsy since before the beta... It's certainly very very stable right now
[12:59] <Crozar> newubuntu: you mean you cant watch them?
[12:59] <Annoyingn00b> Uh, since I ended up here, someone mind telling how to prevent Ubuntu's X-chat from automatically connecting to this server?
[12:59] <Crozar> newubuntu: vcd's nor DVD's you cant watch them in ubuntu
[12:59] <NixMan> Oli``: i was going to try to, if i can figure out how to upgade now in kubuntu
[12:59] <eulogy_> I agree with Oli, NixMan.
[12:59] <Annoyingn00b> It is a bit annoying to be forced to come here every time I start the program :/
[12:59] <Tomcat_> Annoyingn00b: Right click on the server on the left side, uncheck the autoconnect.
[01:00] <Annoyingn00b> Tomcat_: Oh, thanks
[01:00] <app_> So how do I achive this: by default any file created by any program should not have read rights for "others"?
[01:00] <Tomcat_> Annoyingn00b: Or find the network "FreeNode" in the settings dialog, uncheck "automatically connect"
[01:00] <Crozar> NixMan: why didnt you get UbuntU , because you can use KDE session , who wants to write , only if you are intrested hehe
[01:00] <eulogy_> Here NixMan: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/7.10/
[01:00] <M_WS> IdleOne: Now I installed build-essential, but it is saying stuff about MD5Sum mismatach (unable to fetch some archives)
[01:00] <Lunz> my xserver hanged before the login screen..what should i do?
[01:00] <Tomcat_> M_WS: Have you done "apt-get update" before?
[01:00] <Crozar> app_:  right clicck properties , if its music or video you can change them by chooseing which app to handle it
[01:00] <IdleOne> Annoyingn00b: click on Xchat> Network List > Scroll down to Ubuntu servers and uncheck the auto connect box
[01:00] <eulogy_> Ah bugger, guess he didn't get the link...
[01:01] <indraveni> hi all
[01:01] <eulogy_> Hello.
[01:01] <M_WS> TOmCat: no, when I try apt-get update it says (13 vpermission denied)
[01:01] <Tomcat_> M_WS: "sudo apt-get update" :)
[01:01] <newubuntu> Crozar: I cant watch VCDs files that are in .dat format only from CDs not from Hard Drive..And I can watch DVDs by going into /media/cdromx..and starting the file from there....
[01:01] <Crozar> eulogy_: we need a trash notifier so when user comes back he gets linked hehe
[01:01] <indraveni> i have a sony dsc-w35 digital camres
 and I installed the drivers for it by gphoto2 package
 but when i am trying to detect the camra thought the gtkam, its showing as, Could Not Initialize camera
 what must be the problem ?
[01:01] <indraveni>  anyone there to help me with my digitalk camera ?
[01:01] <eulogy_> Crozar: That'd be awesome.
[01:02] <M_WS> Tomcat (I dont have an internet connection on that Ubuntu machine, I am now trying to get ndiswrapper to work so i can install my card)
[01:02] <Crozar> newubuntu: what u saying>? you mean if you BUY a DVD or a VCD cd and put it in ur drive can it play it???
[01:02] <newubuntu> Crozar: My problem is that Why they dont get mounted automatically onto Desktop???
[01:03] <newubuntu> Crozar: No It does not plat it from the CD..
[01:03] <Crozar> newubuntu: you mean it plays GOOD!!! thats a priority question that most people with hardware problems have this issue , but your issue is not a problem its something to do with configuration thats it. and maybe to make the file type known for the system
[01:03] <eulogy_> Well at least his plays.
[01:04] <Lucky_Phil> ls
[01:04] <Crozar> newubuntu: if u have a cd / dvd / vcd and your drive cant play it then its a hardware problem and this bug is been reported these issues happen on couple of drives , depends on the brand and manufacturer ect..
[01:04] <M_WS> Tomcat so i cant do apt get update from there
[01:04] <Lucky_Phil> Hi Guys
[01:04] <eulogy_> Hello.
[01:05] <Lucky_Phil> anyone know if there is an application (besides KB3) that will burn CDs on Gutsy????
[01:05] <kal> what is the exact time for the 7.10 to release?
[01:05] <Crozar> myne doesnt play nothing , even if i burn cds i cant read them but other computers can its a known bug issue for my DVD CD R / RW drive from toshiba laptop s801 , and couple of otehr drives have this issue maybe to do with some wireing to the system or somethinfg lol
[01:05] <Crozar> kal:  46 hours
[01:05] <Lucky_Phil> I've tried Nero Linux and it "appears" to work fine... but none of my audio CD's burned have any sound.....
[01:06] <jxxt> indravemi, I have a sony camera I did not install any drivers for it but as soon as I plug in the usb it is identifed as a mass storgae devicwe
[01:06] <kal> Crozar: is there also an hour/minute countdown that i can see on the web?
[01:06] <Crozar> believe me ubuntu 8 will show a complete no problem system ( thats the timewhen Windows lose for good )
[01:06] <Ballena> is there a way to chnage a link to a program so it opens in the minimized mode?
[01:06] <indraveni> but my camera is getting mounted automatically
[01:06] <Crozar> no kal
[01:07] <eulogy_> kal: It is suggested that you update to RC before then to escape the download rush and simply update RC on Oct. 18th to Final Release.
[01:07] <jxxt> indravemi, So what is the problem
[01:07] <kal> ok... it is then 20071018 09:00 hrs (GMT + 0)?
[01:07] <Crozar> why eulogy_?? if he updates to RC then its bad
[01:07] <newubuntu> OK...Thanx a lot..Last thing which i wanna ask is: What should I do to get both of my CDROMs mounted automatically on my Desktop(whenever and whichever CD I might insert..DVD,VCD,Data CD)?????
[01:08] <Crozar> eulogy_: i hear theyr was problems whenupdateing trust me i did and had new bunch of problems , and now to fix them i must format
[01:08] <Crozar> eulogy_: or go the long cut hehe
[01:08] <newubuntu> Crozar: OK...Thanx a lot..Last thing which i wanna ask is: What should I do to get both of my CDROMs mounted automatically on my Desktop(whenever and whichever CD I might insert..DVD,VCD,Data CD)?????
[01:08] <Crozar> eulogy_: but i will format once 7.10 is out
[01:08] <M_WS> Is it IMPOSSIBLE to install ndiswrapper on a machine with no internet?
[01:08] <eulogy_> You mean RC update to FR is bad?
[01:08] <eulogy_> Or 7.04 to RC?
[01:09] <Crozar> newubuntu: its something to do with configuration thats it. and maybe to make the file type known for the system
[01:10] <Crozar> newubuntu: then it will handle it such other cd's does when inserted
[01:10] <Crozar> newubuntu: im not sure where to go from here coz i have a hardware problem i cant test it for you ;)
[01:10] <indraveni> any one there who has already done  work around for sony digi cam ?
[01:12] <newubuntu> Crozar:ok thanx a lot dear..hope to talk to you again
[01:12] <jxxt> indravemi, Did you go through the find camera options in the photo program??
[01:12] <jxxt> indraveni, Did you go through the find camera options in the photo program??
[01:13] <thesaint4444> hi, can anyone tell me how i copy the 'contents' not the directory itself including sub directetories from one directory into another? thanks.....
[01:13] <tony_montana> ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[01:14] <newubuntu> Crozar: I think you r a Muslim,,So Allah Hafiz...
[01:14] <M_WS> I have dell wireless 1390 wireless card on my laptop where I have just installed Ubuntu Feisty. Now I can not properly install build-essentials from the CD (I get stuff such as MD5Sum mismatch and Unable to fetch archives) - As for Ndiswrapper, It seems I can not "make install" without these build-essentials, because then i get tons of errors and warnings. How on earth can I get my network card to work on a machine that NOW doesn't have in
[01:14] <Crozar> newubuntu: ameen
[01:14] <stupidgirl> hi everyone, in gnome i use 2 b able to exit a program by typing "killall whatever" and now i have kde and it doesnt work why would that be?
[01:14] <indraveni> jxxt, which photo program u r talking about ?
[01:14] <penguincentral> !o4o > newubuntu
[01:15] <jxxt> indraveni, The one you are trying to use
[01:15] <indraveni> jxxt, gphoto2 or gtkam ?
[01:15] <arcad3> !postfix
[01:15] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[01:15] <indraveni> jxxt, in gphoto2 there is no such optio
[01:15] <indraveni> and in gtkam, when i am asking to scan, it saying no camera initaliszed
[01:15] <jxxt> indraveni, I thought that there was my bad
[01:16] <mzuverink> in various programs, such as but not limited to xchat and gnomebaker I get those nice character symbols that sorta look like dominos instead of the actual character, whats the best way to solve that?
[01:19] <peder> anyone got an idea what could be wrong when my computer hibernates fine, but seems to ignore it when powering on again, thus not resuming?
[01:20] <M_WS> I have dell wireless 1390 wireless card on my laptop where I have just installed Ubuntu Feisty. Now I can not properly install build-essentials from the CD (I get stuff such as MD5Sum mismatch and Unable to fetch archives) - As for installing Ndiswrapper without build-essentials, It seems I can not "make install" without these build-essentials, because then i get tons of errors and warnings. How on earth can I get my network card to work o
[01:20] <adante_> IdleOne: thanks! launchpad was very useful
[01:21] <aguitel> El ,cual es el tema
[01:21] <jmdc> M_WS: don't use the CD, get updates from the web
[01:22] <jxxt> jmdc,
[01:22] <Pici> M_WS: iirc, ndiswrapper is on the CD.
[01:22] <jmdc> jxxt: yes?
[01:22] <jxxt> that is his problem no connection
[01:22] <M_WS> exactly
[01:23] <jmdc> you have a connection now, because you're talking to me. Plug your laptop into whatever connection you've got
[01:23] <jxxt> jmdc, I jump on the key a bit early sorry
[01:23] <jmdc> thats what I was hoping for
[01:23] <M_WS> can i otherwise download these things in one package and just use my usb stick ?
[01:23] <jmdc> jxxt no problem
[01:23] <jmdc> yes, that works too.
[01:23] <jmdc> But, if you use the package manager it will be easier because it will take care of dependencies for you
[01:24] <mzuverink> M_WS, you cant plug in the machine with the wifi card to a wired connection?
[01:24] <M_WS> jmdc: build essential isnt in the list, manual install gives errors. any clue as where i can download it ?
[01:25] <M_WS> mzuverink, it connects but with no activity with the wire
[01:25] <mzuverink> M_WS, the NIC is supported?
[01:25] <JDahl> I am deleted my WIndows partition and want to use the freed space for linux. What's wrong with "/dev/sda2   /mnt/data   ext3   auto,uid=1000,gid=1000  0 0"?  Mount complains that uid=1000 is an unrecognized mount option
[01:26] <M_WS> the card is only functional with ndiswrapper I just read
[01:26] <mzuverink> M_WS, is it a laptop?
[01:26] <jmdc> M_WS: what list?
[01:27] <M_WS> yeah its a laptop
[01:27] <M_WS> jmdc. in add applications
[01:27] <jmdc> M_WS: build-essential is collection of tools and libraries and such, so its not in that list.
[01:28] <jmdc> what you really want to do is sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:28] <mzuverink> M_WS, unless its old as the hills its got to have a ethernet port for you to connect it to a connection via a cable, you dont have access to the router or something?
[01:28] <jmdc> or use synaptic
[01:28] <Weiss> JDahl: uid/gid is relevant for a windows partition, but not for ext3
[01:28] <M_WS> mzuverink, yeah, i have access to the router... the laptop is pretty new
[01:28] <ericdx> salut pas moyen de faire la mise  jour de wine ???
[01:29] <JDahl> Weiss, ah - thanks
[01:29] <ePax>  Whats Exim smtpd?
[01:29] <vasser> hello
[01:30] <jmdc> M_WS: your laptop can be plugged into the router
[01:30] <vasser> i want to install pidgin on my ubuntu (7.04)
[01:30] <jmdc> you should do that.
[01:30] <mzuverink> M_WS, so why use a usb stick to put your needed .debs to get the card to work, just plug it in and then update and set up your card instead of using the cd
[01:30] <vasser> the problem is, before removing gaim, it tells me it will remove "ubuntu-desktop" (among over packages)
[01:30] <mzuverink> ePax, its a mail server
[01:31] <jmdc> vasser: pidgin is gaim, but with a new name. In 7.04, gaim is installed by default.
[01:31] <dgjones> !fr | ericdx,
[01:31] <ubotu> ericdx,: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:31] <M_WS> mzuverink, I will give it another go, earlier when I plugged in the cable, it came up as connected but with no activity. Ill try it again
[01:31] <jxxt> ePax, exim smtp is an internet mailer
[01:31] <_Lucretia_> I did have java working on here, but in synaptic, I cannot find which package javac, java, etc are in
[01:31] <ericdx> merci ubotu
[01:31] <_Lucretia_> i've got both 1.4 and 6 installed
[01:32] <mzuverink> _Lucretia_, use the search option in synaptic, search for java
[01:32] <_Lucretia_> mzuverink: yeah I have
[01:32] <mzuverink> _Lucretia_, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:32] <_Lucretia_> feisty
[01:33] <linux4me> i'm trying to install ultra monkey but it only has red hat and debian packages. how do i create a ubuntu package?
[01:33] <firbios> hy i have a problem to install ubuntu it freezes in 6% http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1000858
[01:34] <mzuverink> _Lucretia_, provided you have the proper repos enabled, you should be able to get java via "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts" which will also add the firefox plugin
[01:34] <alain> hi guys,, wat was that program that can install x11 mouse themes ... i used that b4 but i forgot the name
[01:34] <_Lucretia_> mzuverink: I'm getting this error: com.sun.tools.javac.Main is not on the classpath
[01:35] <firbios> this is my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482184
[01:35] <_Lucretia_> mzuverink: and no java6 plugin, that's why I installed 1.4
[01:35] <mzuverink> _Lucretia_, I have no idea about that one
[01:35] <mzuverink> _Lucretia_, sorry
[01:35] <_Lucretia_> mzuverink: I mean, in the repos
[01:36] <isnei> How do I disable the right mouse button?
[01:37] <mzuverink> _Lucretia_, got to easylinux.info, the feisty section, check your repo list against the one they have, and then try again
[01:38] <pulseezar> hi, i've just tried to import all my tunes into rhythm box and it's telling me that the plug in to decode mp3 cannot be found. What can I do?
[01:38] <mzuverink> _Lucretia_, you have multiverse and univers, canonical fre and non-free and medibuntu free and non-free in your repo list?
[01:38] <isnei> help, how do i disable the right mouse button?
[01:39] <mzuverink> pulseezar, you install ubuntu-restricted extras?  or the good, the bad and the ugly depending on your version of ubuntu?
[01:39] <egonw> moin, I got a eth0 hardware problem with a HP 6720s... e1000 driver loaded but 'link not ready'... anyone with debug tips, or pointers?
[01:40] <pulseezar> no, I have the latest release. What is it and where can I find it?
[01:40] <jxxt> isnei, you can change the mouse to left handed by preferences mouse I do not know how to disable
[01:40] <_Lucretia_> mzuverink: http://phpfi.com/269289
[01:42] <mzuverink> _Lucretia_, looks like you have everything, you could try going to suns java site and installing the official from them, but first uninstall any java you already have installed via apt
[01:42] <mzuverink> _Lucretia_, beyond that I do not know what to tell you, sorry I could not be more help than that
[01:43] <knoppix21> can anyone help me with x
[01:43] <knoppix21> i cant boot my ubuntu on my laptop
[01:44] <xavier_> alguem do brasil?
[01:45] <gnr> heya, I installed Songbird and updated my playlist but NONE of my music plays, i just get "error" in the play bar. Anyone get this problem? or knows what im doing wrong?
[01:45] <Flats> Is there such a thing as 945resolution?
[01:46] <Frack-Hesse> hello
[01:47] <Frack-Hesse> could someone plz tell me what the _default_ font for the gnome terminal is?
[01:47] <ePax> How do i remove exim? What program uses exim smtpd?
[01:47] <pulseezar> muzuverink: thanks! It worked!
[01:48] <panosru> Hi, I'm on Gutsy 64bit and i try to install Java on firefox can anyone help me? If i go to a page that uses java applets it says me that the plugin is missing and i press to install it, it installs icedtea 7 and then i restart firefox after that i go again to a page with java applet and it says me again that the plugin is missing and i press again to install it but this time it says me that this is already install (as it should to say) b
[01:48] <panosru> ut java not works.
[01:49] <Frack-Hesse> could someone plz tell me what the _default_ font for the gnome terminal is?
[01:49] <jxxt> panosru, I had similar problems and installed gnash but still some flash would not play so I went back to feisty
[01:50] <Tomcat_> panosru: Go to #ubuntu+1 and install sun-java6-jre
[01:50] <panosru> jxxt, i have no problem with flash i have problem with java
[01:50] <Tomcat_> panosru: Or sun-java6-plugin
[01:50] <jxxt> panosru, sorry mate
[01:50] <panosru> Tomcat, i will try #ubuntu+1 (thanks) i have already java installed and plugin for mozilla too
[01:50] <panosru> jxxt, no problem
[01:51] <Tomcat_> panosru: Weird. Check "about:config" (address bar) in FF.
[01:51] <panosru> Tomcat i have all the java-* installed
[01:51] <panosru> Tomcat, everything seems to be fine
[01:51] <Tomcat_> panosru: What page are you using to check?
[01:52] <MtJB> i'm trying to make pokerth, which requires qt4 instead of qt3, but i am not having anyluck.  the docs say to point QTDIR to /usr/qt/4, but there isn't one.  where should i point it?
[01:52] <pulseezar> how do I start GDM?
[01:52] <Tomcat_> MtJB: Did you install libqt4-dev?
[01:52] <panosru> Tomcat, i tried many already but this not the problem because on virtual machine for example the page works (vbox with windows xp) and the page that i make the tests currently is http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?loc=4&premium=
[01:52] <Tomcat_> pulseezar: sudo gdm in terminal
[01:53] <pulseezar> cheers
[01:53] <MtJB> Tomcat_   let me check, maybe only core...
[01:53] <gnr> heya, I installed Songbird and updated my playlist but NONE of my music plays, i just get "error" in the play bar. Anyone get this problem? or knows what im doing wrong?
[01:53] <Tomcat_> MtJB: When compiling software you always need -dev packages
[01:53] <pulseezar> aww...already running?
[01:54] <MtJB> yes, its installed
[01:54] <Tomcat_> MtJB: Check /usr/lib/ for qt4 files... maybe /usr/lib/qt4* or something? Don't know
[01:55] <MtJB> Tomcat_, thanks, will do
[01:55] <Tomcat_> panosru: Works for me. Did you absolutely positively restart Firefox after changing your Java install?
[01:55] <panosru> Tomcat, of course
[01:56] <smekerce> macedonija
[01:57] <_Lucretia_> mzuverink: np, ta
[01:58] <freaker> good morning.
[01:58] <smoenux> what does it mean to packet a website?
[01:58] <gnr> heya, I installed Songbird and updated my playlist but NONE of my music plays, i just get "error" in the play bar. Anyone get this problem? or knows what im doing wrong?
[01:58] <Tomcat_> smoenux: Doesn't ring a bell here.
[01:58] <freaker> how can i clear the RAM from the console ?
[01:58] <Tomcat_> panosru: Then I'm out of ideas. :)
[01:58] <Tomcat_> freaker: Clear the RAM? What do you mean?
[01:59] <nrdb> freaker: turn the computer off.
[01:59] <smoenux> lolz ^_^
[01:59] <panosru> Tomcat no problem i'm trying ubuntu+1 now but i don't thing that anyone can help me on this issue
[01:59] <freaker> my ram is almost full, and when it's full, it gets stuck, can't i clear it somehow ?
[01:59] <freaker> sor seriouse ?
[02:00] <Tomcat_> panosru: You could try deleting your ff profile (~/.mozilla) and see if it works afterwards...
[02:00] <panosru> Tomcat nice idea i will keep it as last option
[02:00] <panosru> thanks ;)
[02:00] <Tomcat_> freaker: Only by rebooting. When your RAM is full, the PC automatically uses the harddisk to write out RAM data that's not needed at the moment.
[02:00] <Tomcat_> panosru: You can easily try by just moving it somewhere... no damage done. ;)
[02:00] <freaker> bummer
[02:01] <panosru> Tomcat yeah that i will do
[02:01] <egonw> anyone here who can help with a HP/Compaq ethernet problem?
[02:01] <jussi01> M_WS: did you get your build essential problem sorted?
[02:02] <Tomcat_> egonw: I doubt it. But I had the same laptop. Maybe I know about it. ;)
[02:02] <Tomcat_> !anyone | egonw
[02:02] <ubotu> egonw: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:03] <egonw> ubotu: tried that earlier...
[02:03] <rob> anyone know if Ubuntu dynamically sets up /etc/network/interfaces or not?
[02:03] <Tomcat_> rob: Not really dynamically, but the file gets read/written by some tools.
[02:03] <egonw> Tomcat_: you did not manage to get eth0 network working either?
[02:03] <Tomcat_> egonw: It was working out of the box actually.
[02:03] <rob> Tomcat_, okay, cheers
[02:04] <egonw> Tomcat_: :(... got a recently new one... thing I might need to update the e1000 driver...
[02:04] <Tomcat_> rob: NetworkManager does that as well nowadays.
[02:04] <_Lucretia_> mzuverink: it was this: update-alternatives
[02:04] <panosru> Tomcat, unfortunately i get the same problem.. :(
[02:05] <rob> tombar_, yeah, there is a guy in ##linux which has his one nick jump anywhere from eth0 to eth5 on reboot, was just wondering if anything during init would be altering it
[02:05] <Tomcat_> panosru: Weird. Try "java -version" in the console. Output?
[02:05] <pxw8> test
[02:05] <rob> eer s/nick/nic
[02:05] <panosru> Tomcat, i already seen this, java version "1.6.0_03"
[02:06] <Tomcat_> rob: No that's not something with networking... the Linux kernel tends to rename some devices sometimes, happens especially with eths and suspend/resume... but Ubuntu has options to rename them somehow.
[02:06] <Tomcat_> panosru: I'm really out of ideas I think then. ;)
[02:06] <panosru> Tomcat, but java should not be the problem i think that this is mozilla's issue, eclipse for example that uses java works fine
[02:06] <Tomcat_> panosru: Yeah, if you get a java -version output your Java installation is perfectly fine...
[02:06] <panosru> Tomcat, no problem, thanks for your time though :)
[02:06] <rob> tombar_, thanks that's what I figured
[02:07] <J03> can someone point me towards the tutorial to isntall ubuntu from a hd partition rather then a cd?
[02:10] <debed> Hi
[02:10] <debed> HELLO EVRYONE
[02:11] <Tomcat_> !shout | debed
[02:11] <ubotu> debed: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:11] <Tomcat_> :-)
[02:11] <Tomcat_> Hi debed.
[02:11] <debed> can anyone please help me with the apt-cacher.co0nf
[02:11] <J03> can someone help me install linux from a hd partition please?
[02:12] <kanjo> excuse me
[02:12] <kanjo> can i ask a question?
[02:12] <Oli``> No
[02:12] <kanjo> ...
[02:13] <penguincentral> !ask | kanjo
[02:13] <ubotu> kanjo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:13] <vasser> anyone in here using btnx ?
[02:13] <penguincentral> :)
[02:13] <penguincentral> kanjo: what's up?
[02:13] <firbios> problem install ubuntu "CHARGEMENT MODULE TRM290 POUR IDE CHIPSET SUPPORT"
[02:13] <kanjo> what is the copy command to copy recursively and symlink preserve a folder to a folder?
[02:14] <penguincentral> can anyone help kanjo
[02:14] <penguincentral> :(
[02:14] <debed> hello help me with apt-cacher conf
[02:14] <firbios> there is solution for my problem  "CHARGEMENT MODULE TRM290 POUR IDE CHIPSET SUPPORT"
[02:14] <Oli``> doesn't -rd do that?
[02:14] <Oli``> ^ @ kanjo
[02:14] <kanjo> =_=, maybe I ask @ wrong place?
[02:14] <penguincentral> kanjo: no, i don't think so
[02:15] <Kerzinger> can I use apt-get to install a package from a file? thanks
[02:16] <jdong> Kerzinger: no, use the gdebi command
[02:16] <egonw> Kerzinger: or dpkg -i bla.deb
[02:16] <jdong> egonw: that can be a pain if he doesn't have the dependencies -- gdebi handles it better
[02:16] <jdong> gdebi package.deb
[02:16] <Kerzinger> egonw can you force dpkg to search fopr dependant packages
[02:17] <jdong> Kerzinger: if you use dpkg, you first "install", let it "break", then run apt-get -f install
[02:17] <Kerzinger> jdong: theres no xserver, because it does not sptart
[02:17] <egonw> jdong: ah... did not know gdebi could do that
[02:17] <jdong> Kerzinger: gdebi is a console command
[02:17] <jdong> Kerzinger: gdebi-gtk is the graphical version GDebi
[02:18] <Kerzinger> jdong thanks
[02:18] <Oli``> hell if we're getting into launching gui apps, just double click the bugger =)
[02:18] <firbios> heeeeeeeeeeeeelp me
[02:18] <jdong> Oli``: he's stuck at command line
[02:18] <jdong> Kerzinger: sure thing :)
[02:18] <FluxD> Hi, my external USB and thumbdrives are not automounting. Any suggestions to automount them?
[02:18] <Oli``> d'oh =)
[02:18] <firbios> i neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed solution CHARGEMENT MODULE TRM290 POUR IDE CHIPSET SUPPORT
[02:19] <jdong> !repeat | firbios
[02:19] <ubotu> firbios: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:19] <firbios> :) :( ;)
[02:19] <Oli``> firbios: download the TRM290 module...
[02:19] <adaran> how can i stop a kernel module from being loaded at boot time?
[02:19] <Pici> adaran: blacklist it.
[02:19] <FluxD> adaran: blacklist ?
[02:19] <Pici> !blacklist | adaran
[02:19] <ubotu> adaran: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[02:19] <firbios> problem install ubuntu "CHARGEMENT MODULE TRM290 POUR IDE CHIPSET SUPPORT"
[02:20] <nibsa1242b> hi I need some help I was trying to install Gusty RC with "update-manager -d" it failed, I ran apt-get clean and tried again... now it says "Not all updates can be installed" so I clicked Partial Upgrade. Then its not able to authenticate some packages. What should I do?
[02:20] <firbios> and this is the detail http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482184
[02:20] <adaran> Pici, i did that - do i need to run anything else? maybe a new initrd.img ?
[02:20] <jdong> firbios: doesn't look like anyone here knows
[02:20] <adaran> Pici, i added pata_jmicron to the blacklist - however, it is still loaded
[02:20] <firbios> (;
[02:20] <firbios> ;)
[02:21] <jdong> firbios: ok, let me try to understand the problem....
[02:21] <FluxD> Hi, my external USB and thumbdrives are not automounting. Any suggestions to automount them?
[02:21] <jdong> firbios: so your system uses the trm920 IDE chipset?
[02:21] <firbios> i dont know wht is trem 290
[02:21] <jdong> firbios: or does it just hang when trying to load that, but that chipset is not needed?
[02:21] <firbios> and how can i see if i used it
[02:22] <adaran> FluxD, same question to you actually - blacklist does not seem to work for me (trying to stop pata_jmicron from loading)
[02:22] <FluxD> adaran: Other than that I have no clue sorry
[02:22] <jdong> firbios: try booting the alternate (blue textmode) installer with "trm920.blacklist=true"
[02:22] <jdong> this will force that module to never load
[02:23] <J03> where can i find the turotial on installing ubuntu without a cd?
[02:23] <adaran> jdong, oh, does that work with any module?
[02:23] <nibsa1242b> anyone out there running on gusty rc?
[02:23] <anolis> does anyone know anything about getting raw packet injection working in ubuntu with a senao NL-2511CD EXT2 wireless card?
[02:24] <jdong> adaran: sure does; on alternate CD only though; I don't know if it carries through to the installed system. That might recover a single-user boot and editing /etc/modules/blacklist
[02:24] <jdong> I mean /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:24] <adaran> jdong, i added to the blacklist in modprobe.d, no effect
[02:24] <anolis> nibsal1242b theres a program that will edit your bootloader to load up a netbased install.. lemme find it
[02:25] <adaran> jdong, does that work for modules in the initrd?
[02:25] <jdong> adaran: no, that's the only place blacklist is not read.
[02:25] <FluxD> Hi, my external USB and thumbdrives are not automounting. Any suggestions to automount them?
[02:25] <nibsa1242b> anyone have any tips for rescuing a failed upgrade to Gusty RC?
[02:25] <adaran> jdong, so i need to exclude it from the initrd somehow? or will updating it honor blacklist when creating it?
[02:26] <jdong> adaran: very good question..... I am unsure....
[02:26] <Vich> I'm running the latest gutsy
[02:26] <adaran> jdong, *sigh* and i'm not even sure that'll fix my problems (some of them at least =/)
[02:26] <Vich> it's awesome
[02:26] <dbkim> hi all
[02:27] <egonw> Tomcat_: ah... found a bug report about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/151887
[02:27] <dbkim> I urgently need a help!
[02:27] <egonw> Tomcat_: thanx for your help anyway
[02:27] <MartinW> I live in South Africa where internet is still very expensive. How can I set Ubuntu to cache everything I download forever? (I have a big hard drive)
[02:27] <anolis> nibsal1242 here is the net install tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[02:27] <jab2002> can someone tell me why i get sound on login but not through any sound program?
[02:27] <dbkim> my windows don't have window borders
[02:27] <jab2002> what do i need to search for to get it working
[02:27] <dbkim> so I can't move windows =(
[02:27] <dbkim> please help me
[02:27] <egonw> MartinW: try increase the cache size of your browser
[02:27] <nucco> jab2002: check your volume settings
[02:27] <anolis> dbkim if you can get to a terminal type metacity
[02:28] <anolis> then press ctrl-c
[02:28] <vasser> can someone help me with btnx ?
[02:28] <vasser> i installed it+ its config
[02:28] <jab2002> thanks but the default sound through gnome test on Autodetect doesnt work
[02:28] <jdong> adaran: what is the problem?
[02:28] <MartinW> I would like to cache .deb packages as well after they have been installed is this possible?
[02:28] <dbkim> hew!
[02:28] <vasser> but it doesn't actually change the buttons' assignments
[02:28] <drew> are desktop effects ever going to work on ATI cards =\
[02:28] <jab2002> Any one else
[02:28] <nucco> drew: use xgl
[02:29] <dbkim> anolis, REALLY REALLY THANK YOU
[02:29] <egonw> MartinW: if you use apt-get/aptitude, they end up in /var/cache/apt/something
[02:29] <nibsa1242b> anolis: thanks, I followed that... it failed. then after a apt-get clean it didn't seem to want to start again... now its doing a "partial upgrade" and in 5-10 hours I'll be able to find out if'll work
[02:29] <adaran> jdong, i get an "IRQ 19 - nobody answered" error, sometimes. if that error occurs, my SATA drives go all funky and don't answer, so the system cannot boot
[02:29] <MartinW> Thanks.
[02:29] <jab2002> how do i tell the system to reconfigure and auto detect the sound card ?
[02:29] <adaran> jdong, i've narrowed it down to this:
[02:29] <dbkim> anolis, THANKS YOU SOOO MUCH
[02:29] <adaran> jdong, disabling the USB controller in the bios fixes it
[02:29] <dbkim> anolis, YOU ARE MY HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:29] <adaran> jdong, disabling ACPI support in the bios fixes it (but then i'm stuck using 1 out of 2 cores and baaaaaad performance)
[02:29] <anolis> dbkim, no problem, for future reference metacity is what runs the window decorations, must have crashed
[02:30] <smekerce> playboy
[02:30] <anolis> well anything other than that nibsal1242b i don't know what to say
[02:30] <adaran> jdong, irqpoll option _used_ to fix it, but with newer kernel versions (can't remember which) that doesn't work anymore. now irqpoll is still required, otherwise my mouse is very choppy
[02:30] <nibsa1242b> anolis: it failed because apparently firefox, powernowd, and some other programs "crashed" and it wanted to file bug reports, said it couldn't, and then said it ran out of memory. I didn't even have firefox open.
[02:30] <jdong> adaran: hmm, so what are you trying to do? blacklist the USB controller?
[02:30] <MartinW> !shout dbkim
[02:30] <adaran> jdong, and there's the jmicron raid controller (it's a cheap onboard chip, that doubles as an IDE controller - i have set it to IDE)
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shout dbkim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <MartinW> !shout
[02:30] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:31] <adaran> jdong, no, see, if i disable the jmicron raid controller or do not attach a drive to it, it boots 95% of the time
[02:31] <adaran> jdong, (like it did in the beginning, without irqpoll, now i have to use irqpoll, but 95% isn't too bad)
[02:31] <adaran> jdong, i'm not sure whether it's a hardware problem or not, windows vista has no problems whatsoever
[02:32] <jdong> adaran: ah, so you want to zap the JMicron controller....
[02:32] <nibsa1242b> alright see you all in 5-10 hours and hope my upgrade to Gusty rc works on attempt two
[02:32] <jdong> adaran: and I don't think it
[02:32] <adaran> jdong, OTOH, the jmicron controller is shit - yeah
[02:32] <jab2002> can anyone help me with SOUND issue
[02:32] <vasser> anyone here uses btnx ?
[02:32] <jdong> adaran: oops; I don't THINK it's a hardware problem per se, but rather the hardware behaves in a way the Linux software doesn't expect
[02:32] <vasser> (and can help me with it ..)
[02:32] <adaran> jdong, i used to have the DVD burner hooked up to it, while it worked someonewhat fine on windows (only burned one cd), it only burned coasters
[02:32] <jdong> adaran: i.e. not standards-compliant. And yeah, JMicron is a disaster and I've heard lots of bad reports on the quality of the chipset, both in Windos and *nix. Mostly with burners and mysterious chkdsk corruption
[02:33] <adaran> jdong, yeah, i'm betting it's the bad pata_jmicron driver (and by bad i mean 'does not work' - could be that the controller is very funky)
[02:33] <adaran> jdong, yep, the worst part is: i'm poor and i've got a cheap msi neo-f
[02:33] <jab2002> thanks for nothing????
[02:33] <adaran> jdong, it has 6 S-ATA channels, but only 4 slots wired on the board (the "deluxe" version or so has ports for all 6)
[02:34] <adaran> jdong, so i want to hook up 4 HDs and a cd-rom i _have_ to use the jmicron at least once
[02:34] <jdong> adaran: so you're not using anything on the jmicron, right?
[02:34] <subha> hi all,can anybody tell me, during net-installation time,if i dont mention one step (for eg. time zone selection) in preseed file then will d-i ask the user or it simply ignore that step ?
[02:34] <jdong> oh you are
[02:34] <adaran> jdong, the windows drive, which linux needn't care about. i use to put the dvd-burner there (but then it only burned coasters, as i said)
[02:34] <Eedge> ouch; modprobe ndiswrapper just crashed X :S haha
[02:34] <soc> hi
[02:34] <ubuntu_irc_hater> Eedge that sucks
[02:34] <soc> did someone install etqw already?!
[02:34] <adaran> jdong, now since it works fine on win (and the win drive can crash all day long, it's a spare HD and only used for gaming), i'm trying to make linux ignore the jmicron all together
[02:34] <soc> i have problems with it ...
[02:35] <soc> it says: ./etqw.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:35] <jdong> adaran: an ugly, ugly, workaround is to remove the .ko module for pata_jmicron, it's somewhere under /lib/modules/
[02:35] <Eedge> It's still freaking out now...
[02:35] <jdong> adaran: then run sudo update-initramfs -u
[02:35] <soc> i'm running it on a amd64 ...
[02:35] <Eedge> so much for driver present / hardware present... haha
[02:35] <soc> do i maybe need a i386 package for that?
[02:35] <linux4me> how do I create my own packages for feisty?
[02:35] <jdong> adaran: reinstall the linux-image package matching your kernel version to "replace" it
[02:35] <adaran> jdong, yeah, thought about something along those lines. however, i'll try pata_jmicro.blackist=true first =)
[02:36] <warriorforgod> I have run sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx to install the nvidia drivers, however when I startx I get teh following error.  http://rafb.net/p/u6qTYD48.html  Any suggestions?
[02:36] <jdong> adaran: unfortunately I don't know of any blacklisting method in the initrd's, but I haven't looked too hard
[02:36] <jdong> adaran: all the source code to the initrd is in /usr/share/initramfs, configuration file is /etc/mkinitramfs.conf
[02:36] <adaran> jdong, i'm trying first with update-initramfs -u and see if it's smart enough
[02:36] <vilasboas_> hy has anyone installed the beryl on ubuntu 7.10?
[02:37] <adaran> jdong, hmm
[02:37] <adaran> jdong, i noticed something:
[02:37] <jdong> adaran: also.... initrd is a gzipped cpio archive
[02:37] <Pici> vilasboas_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support/discussion.
[02:37] <adaran> jdong, i rebooted once without running update-initramfs, but adding to the blacklist
[02:37] <adaran> jdong, now i checked the initrd.img and the module is in there
[02:37] <jdong> adaran: you can even manually unpack it to fool around / mess with it if this doesn't work out
[02:38] <Eedge> I had just remembered to blacklist acx_pci, and then we I tried to load ndiswrapper it just killed the system entirely.
[02:38] <Eedge> lol
[02:38] <adaran> jdong, then i ran update and NOW there is my blacklist file in the initrd.img
[02:38] <jdong> adaran: ooh, that's promising
[02:38] <adaran> jdong, so are you sure it doesn't check the blacklist?
[02:38] <adaran> jdong, yeah
[02:38] <jdong> adaran: I am not sure at all
[02:38] <nicholas> i all, i'm having problems logging on with Gyachi , i i downloaded it last night and all it say when i log on is "logging failed.. invalid user"
[02:38] <adaran> jdong, will reboot
[02:38] <adaran> jdong, see what happens
[02:38] <adaran> jdong, and let you know when i come bakc
[02:38] <adaran> jdong, brb
[02:39] <rafaelsiqueira> Guys, I have a little problem :(
[02:40] <abhibera> hey can anyone tell me how to configure pkg-config? i got all my libs and cflags screwed
[02:40] <warriorforgod> I have run sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx to install the nvidia drivers, however when I startx I get teh following error.  http://rafb.net/p/u6qTYD48.html  Any suggestions?
[02:40] <Eedge> ... why are modules in my blacklist file still loading?
[02:41] <nucco> abhibera: you probably have incorrect screen resolution setup
[02:42] <nucco> try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[02:42] <abhibera> nucco: not dpkg
[02:42] <nucco> backup your xorg.conf first
[02:42] <abhibera> nucco: pkg-config
[02:42] <vilasboas_> hy
[02:42] <grissom_pt> hey guys... i'm kind of new using this kind of operating system. i have an ASUS C90S laptop with GeForce 8600M 512MB graphics card. is it possible to run the installation of ubuntu 7.04 using the graphics mode? i'm not being able to do that, a black screen appears and nothing seems to happen. how to i switch to text mode? plz help
[02:43] <nucco> sorry, I was talking to warriorforgod.
[02:43] <tapas> hi, where do i actually find the packages?>
[02:43] <JediMaster> anyone here have Nvidia Twinview working?
[02:43] <Oli``> JediMaster: yup
[02:43] <nucco> abhibera: maybe a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure pkg-config' would do the trick :)
[02:43] <nucco> he he
[02:43] <dgjones> JediMaster, i have, but i'm not on the computer with it working at the minute
[02:43] <vilasboas_> can anyone helpme i need to install beryl on ubuntu7.10 but it doesn't apper the cube on the desktop
[02:43] <Eedge> I have "blacklist acx_pci" in etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and yet on boot it's still loading? Any advise?
[02:43] <warriorforgod> nucco: Here is the kicker.  I was running with that X config at those resolutions.  Rebooted after updates and couldn't get to X.
[02:44] <abhibera> nucco: no
[02:44] <abhibera> nucco didn't work
[02:44] <abhibera> nucco: still points to the incorrect libs
[02:44] <nucco> abhibera: 'completely remove' the offending libs and then reinstall them.
[02:44] <nucco> including pkg-config.
[02:44] <abhibera> hmmmm... maybe dpkg reconfigure the libs :)
[02:45] <adaran> jdong, still there?
[02:45] <nucco> warriorforgod: I guess there's no harm in trying... maybe you haven't selected the correct drivers.
[02:45] <abhibera> nucco: no use :(
[02:45] <abhibera> it's still not pointing
[02:45] <dgjones> vilasboas_, you'd be better to ask in either #ubuntu+1 for support with Gutsy 7.10, or #ubuntu-effects for help with beryl/compiz
[02:46] <nucco> abhibera: paste your xorg.conf
[02:46] <eitreach> hvaeh, denne her Nordic udgave, understtter den dansk som standard?
[02:46] <nucco> not sure what the problem is but I could take a peek
[02:46] <Oli``> JediMaster: is there something we can help with regarding twinview or were you just asking how many people have a dual-screen setup?
[02:47] <grissom_pt> anybody? :\
[02:47] <abhibera> nucco: ??? xorg.conf? xorg doesn't have anything to do with pkg-config
[02:47] <Oli``> grissom_pt: try adding a noapic to the end of the boot parameters
[02:47] <nucco> abhibera: sorry, I keep mixing you up with warriorforgod... sorry.
[02:47] <abhibera> nucco :)
[02:47] <nucco> abhibera: did you do the 'complete remove' and then reinstall for the packages?
[02:47] <Oli``> failing that trying getting into vesa mode (that should be an option on the list, no?)
[02:48] <JediMaster> Oli`` or dgjones: how do you stop the windows from spanning across both monitors when maximising? (bearing in mind I've got xinerama disabled for compiz-fusion to work)
[02:48] <JediMaster> Oli``: sorry on the phone ;-)
[02:48] <noodles12> hey guys, i'm upgrading to gutsy right now. while installing, it says it couldn't install some packages: tzdata and util-linux   . is that bad? or can i just manually install later?
[02:48] <Oli``> JediMaster: have you *just* enabled twinview?
[02:48] <nucco> btw, anyone able to get ubuntu versions newer than 6.10 to work on a hp nx9420?
[02:48] <JediMaster> Oli``: yes
[02:48] <Oli``> JediMaster: I found restarting X fixed it
[02:48] <Eedge> I have "blacklist acx_pci" in etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and yet on boot it's still loading? Any advise?
[02:48] <JediMaster> Oli``: already done that
[02:49] <grissom_pt> Oli``: thks. i'll give it a try
[02:49] <Oli``> JediMaster: hmm okay... how are you screens positioned (in the config)?
[02:49] <nucco> hey warriorforgod: are you sure your display card is supported by those drivers?
[02:49] <dgjones> JediMaster, i'm not sure, i'm only experimenting myself at the minute, mine is only set up as one big desktop at the moment, i only set it up yesterday so i can';t suggest much, i did find the help file on the nvidia website quite useful reading tho
[02:51] <Jonnex> hullo
[02:51] <Jonnex> ive got a query regarding tri-booting XP, Vista, and Ubuntu, on one SATA disk.
[02:51] <Jonnex> ive already got xp and vista dual booting
[02:51] <Jonnex> and i use vistas boot loader
[02:51] <Jonnex> im wondering what the best thing is to do when installing ubuntu
[02:52] <nucco> jonnex: you should be able to install ubuntu and let grub do its thing.
[02:52] <Jonnex> do i use grub? or is it better/easier to not install grub, and have vistas boot loader see ubuntu (if thats possible?)
[02:52] <Jonnex> grub will do its thing automatically?
[02:52] <nucco> Jonnex: its easier to let grub do its thing, *automatically*
[02:53] <Eedge> I have "blacklist acx_pci" in etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and yet on boot it's still loading? Any advise?
[02:53] <Jonnex> ... " *automatically* "
[02:53] <Jonnex> is it not so automatic?
[02:53] <nucco> yes.
[02:53] <Jonnex> so how is it done?
[02:53] <nucco> after your ubuntu install, grub will detect other OSes and create entries for them.
[02:53] <nucco> you don't need to do anything, just say yes when asked.
[02:55] <Jonnex> ahh .. well thats comforting
[02:55] <Jonnex> ill get that done asap then :D thanks!
[02:55] <nucco> welcome
[02:56] <nucco> hey, anyone know of any way to stream video from a central server to a TV set, with the minimum number of equipment?
[02:56] <ubstud> Hey I need help setting up freenx. I installed it on the host computer but the client computer can't connect
[02:57] <kanjo> how to autologin as root under console mode? (I am using Ubuntu server at the time)
[02:57] <ubstud> for "host" I put the ip of the host computer and tried connecting
[02:57] <whyameye> is there a gnome applet that will show instantaneous CPU usage? gnome-system-monitor only shows average over time so if there is a runaway process it is hard to detect. I'm looking for something like top but that is a gnome applet
[02:57] <jetscreamer> you can set the time slice ithink
[02:57] <JediMaster> Oli``: http://pastebin.com/d41e0db4f
[02:57] <nucco> whyameye: gnomesystem shows instantaneous CPU usage.
[02:58] <milosz> hello
[02:58] <milosz> !
[02:58] <whyameye> nucco: what is gnomesystem? do you mean gnome-system-monitor? It doesn't show it by process.
[02:59] <nucco> yes.
[02:59] <maja> jgjeheggeg
[02:59] <maja> egegegsegsegsgesggsegsegsegegs
[02:59] <maja> ghuuueiewjjjjjsjjdjjjeiieujuhhshdhdhhdhddhhdueuueuewuuwjjdudusigsugeuigfguwefguiigfuugeufgufggigfegfvguidsfvdguvdsiguvd
[02:59] <nucco> whyameye: by process? there I can't help you. sorry.
[02:59] <endra> hello
[02:59] <maja> ] ghdsvgiasfgsuifsuifhefudsgfes
[02:59] <maja> syfgsfgewyfegfygsef
[02:59] <Fallenou> wtf?
[02:59] <dgjones> !ops | maja
[02:59] <ubotu> maja: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[02:59] <maja> fguiefugegfiufggdiufuiefhe
[02:59] <Fallenou> maja < stop that son of a bitch
[02:59] <DevideZero> ubuntu gusty final has been released ?
[02:59] <whyameye> nucco: top at the command line does it. How do people detect runaway processes without dropping to the command line?
[02:59] <Pici> DevideZero: no.
[03:00] <Fallenou> DevideZero < the 18th
[03:00] <endra> hello
[03:00] <ubstud> any help guys? On my freenx problem.
[03:00] <elkbuntu> Fallenou, despite the behaviour of maja, who is likely merely a bot, that type of reaction is not called for
[03:00] <nucco> whyameye: I see my cpu usage stuck at 50% when I have a runaway process, (dual core system)
[03:00] <whyameye> nucco: and how do you identify which process is to blame?
[03:00] <Fallenou> elkbuntu < sorry ... was upset
[03:00] <DevideZero> i have request 2 ubuntu and 2 kubuntu cd's and they ware sent 13 hours ago ( lunchpad ) ... so they have sent me beta version on the cd's ?
[03:01] <elkbuntu> Fallenou, you must be incredibly miserable on the internet in general then
[03:01] <nucco> whyameye:  click on the system monitor applet, it will open system monitor, go to processes, sort the list by CPU.
[03:01] <nucco> simple.
[03:01] <Fallenou> don't think it was a bot, just a kind of idiot -_-
[03:01] <Oli``> JediMaster: erk both your screens are set on auto... on the metamode (near the end) try this (if your monitors support 75Hz): CRT-0: 1280x1024_75 +1280+0, CRT-1: 1280x1024_75 +0+0
[03:01] <endra> I think something happened during the install. It stopped at 87% of 'select software and install' and I went to alt-F4 (the other terminal) and it is showing a bunch of kernel lines with a stack/trace and the process gzip. What's going on/how can I scroll up/how can I fix it? Thanks
[03:01] <kitche> DevideZero: probably not htey sent you feisty most likely
[03:01] <elkbuntu> Fallenou, in my experience as an op, it's a bot
[03:01] <Fallenou> elkbuntu < ooooh yea =), even in real life
[03:01] <whyameye> nucco: you mean by cpu time? That give the total cpu usage of a process since it was started.
[03:02] <nucco> whyameye: to sort the list by % CPU, simply click on the '% CPU"
[03:02] <nucco> I believe its instantaneous
[03:02] <lonran> I am using nm-applet but it cant find any device. I get this error msg in the syslog: Oct 16 14:55:33 HG01 NetworkManager: <WARNING>^I nm_dbus_get_networks_cb (): error received: org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks - There are no wireless networks stored..  Any idea?
[03:02] <Fallenou> since i miss lunch today i'm upset
[03:02] <whyameye> nucco: I don't seem to have that option. I'm running dapper. What are you running? Maybe it has been added?
[03:02] <nucco> whyameye: I'm running feisty, but I could do that in dapper too.
[03:03] <nucco> don't you see a '% CPU' column?
[03:03] <Fallenou> top | sort would be ok too i think :p
[03:03] <whyameye> nucco: I just found it. It was an option to add in "preferences." Perfect. Thanks. This is exactly what I was looking for.
[03:03] <redico> huhu, i dont understand  this howto :  /7.04/ configuration :
[03:03] <redico> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae3
[03:03] <Fallenou> with some options
[03:03] <nucco> Fallenou: he wanted a GUI :)
[03:03] <DevideZero> this is what im talking about : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40810/
[03:03] <ZeroA4> whyameye, maybe you have to select % CPU column at Edit - Preferences
[03:04] <whyameye> ZeroA4: exactly. I got it now. Thanks!
[03:04] <ZeroA4> whyameye, err... too late :)
[03:04] <actliang> 
[03:04] <JediMaster> Oli``: both monitors actually work, it's just that window maximise across both
[03:05] <whyameye> I'm trying to see if ubuntu is finally ready for the non-geek. One of my requirements is that the person using it never has to drop to the command line. I'm not willing to set some of my friends up with ubuntu until this is the case. That's why I was wondering about this.
[03:05] <Oli``> JediMaster: yeah I'm just trying to get you nearer something like mine so I can eliminate differences
[03:05] <ubstud> ??
[03:06] <kanjo> how to autologin as root under console mode? (I am using Ubuntu server at the time)
[03:06] <JediMaster> Oli``: ah ok, do you have xinerama on (and are you using compiz-fusion?)
[03:06] <DevideZero> someone can help me with shipit ubuntu cd's ?
[03:06] <Fallenou> whyameye < for some exotic hardware/stuff there is always need of command line
[03:06] <nkbreau> hey guys, I installed ubuntu on my laptop last week (dell latitude m830) and everything worked out of the box buti noticed that when i plug headphones into the lineout jack the main computer speakrers dont shut off... is this a common problem or something easy to fix ? I played around with all the sound settings in the audio properties as well as lasamixergui but not success.....
[03:06] <ZeroA4> whyameye, do you count Alt+F2 as command line ?
[03:06] <whyameye> Fallenou: yeah but that's only in initial setup. Once the system is configured it should be OK?
[03:06] <Fallenou> nkbreau < i've already seen this on the internet ...
[03:07] <Fallenou> whyameye < hummmmmm i think yes.
[03:07] <nucco> nkbreau: I had that problem once, I rebooted, and problem was gone :)
[03:07] <JediMaster> Oli``: brb, restarting X =)
[03:07] <whyameye> ZeroA4: it's pushing it. :-)
[03:07] <Fallenou> since you can edit conf files with gedit and so on ...
[03:07] <whyameye> I don't mind if initial setup requires the command line
[03:08] <nkbreau> unfortunetly ucco it;s not a reboot issue...
[03:08] <tom_> aster
[03:08] <tom_> bah
[03:08] <nkbreau> Fallenou i found afew things with other laptop models but they required some pretty heafty config changes to get it workin... was hioping there was an easier solution
[03:08] <ZeroA4> whyameye, them you are set... you can do all by using an editor and calling commands by Alt+F2 ;)
[03:08] <JediMaster> Oli``: ok, no difference, other than my CRT is now flickering at a horrid 75Hz ;-)
[03:08] <Fallenou> nkbreau < think you should try them
[03:09] <whyameye> ok thanks.
[03:09] <Samaseon> is there any way to extract rar files?
[03:09] <Samaseon> i tried the unrar-free package, but for my rar files it fails
[03:09] <ZeroA4> Samaseon, you have to install an extra package...
[03:09] <Oli``> JediMaster: okidoke, go through nvidia-settings and set it to something realistic
[03:10] <Samaseon> ZeroA4, ok, any idea where to get more info about this?
[03:10] <JediMaster> Oli``: done =)
[03:10] <adaran> jdong, well, none of the options worked. i'm adding a hook script to initramfs-tools to remove the module
[03:10] <ZeroA4> Samaseon, synaptic has an rar (non-free)
[03:11] <jdong> adaran: that works.... you can add something to the beginning of the initramfs scripts that deletes the file
[03:11] <Samaseon> ZeroA4, ok thank you, i'll try that
[03:11] <jdong> adaran: in case probing the module in the first place causes hell to break loose
[03:11] <jetscreamer> a?you wuss! drink the whole pot!
[03:12] <ZeroA4> Samaseon, ok :)
[03:12] <jetscreamer> :)
[03:12] <DevideZero> open solaris is linux ?
[03:12] <adaran> jdong, yeah, created a hook script with rm -v `find $DESTDIR -name pata_jmicron.ko`
[03:13] <Oli``> JediMaster: Ok.. I've just noticed that I have two screen sections in my xorg.conf
[03:13] <nucco> DevideZero: you called it 'solaris'
 open solaris is linux ? < hum don't think so :p
[03:13] <jdong> adaran: err, where's $DESTDIR?
[03:13] <nucco> echo $DESTDIR
[03:13] <JediMaster> Oli``: want to pastebin it?
[03:13] <jdong> adaran: that's your actual root, right?
[03:13] <jdong> nucco: this is inside initramfs; won't help :)
[03:13] <adaran> jdong, nope
[03:13] <Oli``> JediMaster: http://pastebin.com/m12d177ac << i've only posted the relevant section - see the bottom
[03:13] <adaran> jdong, removed `/tmp/mkinitramfs_R22849/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/ata/pata_jmicron.ko'
[03:14] <nucco> jdong: oh, you guys are doing black magic! keep going :)
[03:14] <DevideZero> someone understand in shipit ubuntu cds ?
[03:14] <adaran> jdong, i checked. no DESTDIR in my env, however, i put a simple 'bash' in the hook script first and checked if an env var contained the destination dir
[03:14] <auowE> Evince is too slow, how can I make it fast?
[03:14] <Fallenou> DevideZero < what do you mean ?
[03:14] <JediMaster> Oli``: you do have xinerama off right?
[03:14] <adaran> jdong, rebooting now, to see if it worked =)
[03:14] <jdong> adaran: wait
[03:14] <adaran> jdong, hm?
[03:14] <Oli``> JediMaster: yeah
[03:14] <jdong> adaran: $DESTDIR is most likely your root filesystem
[03:15] <JediMaster> Oli``: just had to double check ;-)
[03:15] <DevideZero> Fallenou , see this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40810/
[03:15] <jdong> adaran: you should only check where modules are in initrd....
[03:15] <adaran> jdong, i told you, i checked. that's what the -v is for on rm
[03:15] <adaran> jdong,  removed `/tmp/mkinitramfs_R22849/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/ata/pata_jmicron.ko'
[03:15] <adaran> jdong, there =)
[03:15] <adaran> jdong, DESTDIR = /tmp/mkinitramfs_R22849
[03:15] <adaran> jdong, although that changes everytime i run it, i assuem
[03:15] <jdong> adaran: ah, ok
[03:15] <nkbreau> Fallenou - how easy is it to do this - http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478714 ?
[03:15] <Fallenou> DevideZero and ? you asked for something that does not exist yet :o
[03:15] <MW_S> Hi rthrthhhtrhrth
[03:16] <adaran> jdong, i'dve noticed if find would've gone through 700 GB in less then 30 seconds =)
[03:16] <adaran> jdong, brb
[03:16] <DevideZero> they send that ubuntu isnt released yet and that the will send the cds when it will be , and they also say that the have sent the cd 13 hours ago how i can be ?
[03:16] <Fallenou> DevideZero < Gutsy is out the 18th, and i'm not sure that even the 18th there will be ship it CD :o i think you will have to wait a little bit longer
[03:16] <ubstud> anyone here used freenx?
[03:16] <IrishDave> hey, i just installed gutsy and i cant get my custom dsdt patch to work like it did in fiesty... any ideas?
[03:16] <vasser_> hello, anyone here uses btnx, i could use some help running it (already set it up, but it does nothing)
[03:16] <dgjones> !gutsy | IrishDave
[03:16] <ubotu> IrishDave: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[03:16] <Samaseon> ZeroA4, then non-free unrar seems to work, thanks, bye
[03:17] <Fallenou> DevideZero < maybe au automatism :o, maybe they sent the feisty ? or maybe just an automatism and they will wait for new Gutsy to get printed on CD
[03:17] <Fallenou> -au+an
[03:17] <DevideZero> Fallenou , "4 CDs requested on 2007-10-13. 4 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company 13 hours ago"
[03:17] <IrishDave> dgjones: i know..... but has anyone come across this problem? im using the RC
[03:17] <DevideZero> aand this are gusty cds . . .
[03:17] <auowE> !evince|auowE
[03:18] <Fallenou> nkbreau < very easy
[03:18] <auowE> !tweak|auowE
[03:19] <dgjones> IrishDave, see ubuto's link, the people using Gutsy are in #ubuntu+1 and they're more likely to be able to answer you
[03:19] <nkbreau> Fallenou can you walk me through ? I'm afraid of messing stuff up.... and is this something i can but in a .sh so i can run it whenever i need to ? seems like it needs to run after you reboot or hibernate or something
[03:19] <IrishDave_> hey, i just installed the gutsy RC and i was hoping to get my sound working again using a custom DSDT hack but it didnt work, i followed the same procedure i did for feisty (copy to initramfs-tools/ then dpkg-reconfigure)
[03:19] <Pici> IrishDave_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy/7.10 support/discussion.
[03:19] <IrishDave> ok dgjones thanks
[03:19] <JediMaster> Oli``: brb
[03:19] <adaran> jdong, wow
[03:19] <adaran> jdong, still loaded
[03:19] <Fallenou> nkbreau < tu unload a module just type rmmod name_of_module
[03:20] <Fallenou> nkbreau < to load a module just type modprobe name_of_module
[03:20] <Fallenou> nkbreau < you have to do it with "sudo"
[03:21] <nkbreau> what would be the name of the module to remove ? snd_had_intel ? and modprobe will just redetect it ?
[03:22] <miles> Hi, I am looking to compare text files to find what lines exist in one document that do not exist in the other.  I don't care about what line they appear on--I don't want line by line, just the document as a whole (So not diff's default behavior).  Anyone know how to do this?
[03:22] <jetscreamer> snd_hda
[03:22] <jetscreamer> !blacklist
[03:22] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[03:23] <nkbreau> so snd_hda and not snd_hda_intel ?
[03:23] <abhibera> any one know how to set the paths in pkg-configure?
[03:23] <jetscreamer> nkbreau: no i meant you typed had... not hda
[03:23] <jetscreamer> add the intel
[03:23] <LjL> miles: i'm not sure what you mean. you mean that order doesn't matter? i.e. if there's a line that's the 1st line in one document, but the last in the other, that should be reported as "present in both documents"?
[03:23] <nkbreau> k
[03:24] <abhibera> any one know how to set the paths in pkg-config?
[03:25] <miles> LjL; The order doesn't matter to me, that is correct.  If the 1st line is the same as the last I don't want to know about, just a line that is in the first but doesn't appear at all in the second document
[03:25] <Fallenou> nkbreau < is it ok ?
[03:25] <miles> LjL: if the first line is the same as the last in the second document rather
[03:25] <LjL> miles, well, i could think of this: sort the files first, then diff. a working syntax could be  diff <(sort file1) <(sort file2)
[03:25] <Fallenou> abhibera < pkg-config does not follows the LD_LIBRARY_PATH too ?
[03:25] <ubuntuEdgy> helo ppl
[03:26] <LjL> miles: of course, in the output, you'd also lose the original sorting of lines, that way
[03:26] <Crozar> hey , Gutsy going to be out in 44 hours
[03:26] <abhibera> Fallenou: no
[03:26] <miles> LjL: That could work, the order does matter in the files, just not to me right now, so I will just create new files out of them first
[03:26] <pythonguy> hey add, i install Gyachi last night, but i can't log on to the yahoo servers , all its saying is "logging failed.. invalid user.. or could not log in.. have any solutions for me ?
[03:26] <nkbreau> Fallenou i get this:# rmmod snd_hda_intel
[03:26] <nkbreau> ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[03:26] <miles> Thanks
[03:26] <LjL> miles: that command won't overwrite the original files, though
[03:27] <Fallenou>  PKG_CONFIG_PATH  abhibera ?
[03:27] <seanh> Oh dear, so I installed Gutsy preview over a Feisty install on my thinkpad and now, then I plug in a projector, it doesn't seem to get any signal from the thinkpad. Tried with multiple projectors. I dunno where to start, any pointers?
[03:27] <aaro1> Anyone have any luck getting Evolution to connect to Exchange 2007?
[03:27] <LjL> !gutsy > seanh    (seanh, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:28] <Fallenou> seanh < for gutsy : go #ubuntu+1
[03:28] <seanh> thanks
[03:28] <Fallenou> nkbreau  < you have to shut down each program that uses this module
[03:28] <Fallenou> nkbreau < xmms amarok totem etc ....
[03:28] <nkbreau> hmm no music players are active....
[03:29] <Fallenou> hmm
[03:29] <Fallenou> nkbreau < look at your lsmod and rmmod all modules that uses the module you want to unload
[03:30] <nkbreau> there is like 5 that start with snd_
[03:30] <nkbreau> would i have to remove them all ?
[03:30] <nkbreau> make that 15
[03:31] <fevel> uh??
[03:31] <dgjones> aaro1, yes i do, although I do it using a http//:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx address, but it works fine & connects ok for me
[03:31] <Fallenou> nkbreau  < no
[03:31] <Fallenou> nkbreau  < look at your lsmod, you have a column named "Used by" ... get it ?
[03:31] <Paddy_EIRE> having fun LjL
[03:31] <Paddy_EIRE> :p
[03:32] <Fallenou> flooding us with unban =)
[03:32] <adaran> jdong,
[03:32] <adaran> jdong, worked
[03:32] <nkbreau> yeah i see it
[03:33] <adaran> jdong, that's for the support!
[03:33] <Fallenou> nkbreau  < ok that's the name of other modules that use a specific module ... you have to unload all modules which uses the module snd_hda_intel
[03:33] <Fallenou> for exemple :
[03:33] <Fallenou> snd_pcm                79108  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
[03:33] <Fallenou> i have snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss which use the module snd_pcm
[03:34] <Fallenou> if i want to unload snd_pcm , i have to rmmod both snd_hda_intel and snd_pcm_oss
[03:34] <nkbreau> k
[03:34] <Crozar> guys whats a good archive program for kde? 7zip or X archiever
[03:34] <nkbreau> and then when i do modprobve will it pick eveyrthjing back up ?
[03:34] <nkbreau> ordo i have to add them all back manually ?
[03:34] <Fallenou> nkbreau < i think yes
[03:34] <Fallenou> nkbreau < modprobe resolves dependencies ...
[03:34] <Fallenou> modprobe do a great job usually :p
[03:35] <Crozar> what is a good archieve program for KDE , 7zip or Xarchiver
[03:35] <aaro1> Hmmm. I'm getting an error that says "The server is running Exchange 5.5. Exchange Connector supports Microsoft Exchange 2000 and 2003 only.
[03:35] <MW_S> hello
[03:35] <Eedge> how do I blacklist a module in 5.10?
[03:35] <dot> Hello people, I need help with Amarok
[03:36] <dot> when I open a mp3 file it says: error loading media
[03:36] <LjL> Eedge, 5.10 isn't supported anymore, i don't know if it's done the same as in more recent versions
[03:36] <LjL> dot: install libxine1-ffmpeg
[03:36] <Vlet> aaro1: looks like you may be out of luck for now :( ... http://www.mail-archive.com/evolution-list@gnome.org/msg05465.html
[03:37] <aaro1> I saw that. I also saw rumblings about people getting it to work with something called brutus
[03:37] <Eedge> LjL: Cheers, but just trying to get my wifi working so I can update: adding the module to the blacklist file doesn't seem to be working.
[03:37] <aczid> Eedge: edit /etc/modprobe.d/blaclist ? i think
[03:37] <MW_S> when i type: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper i get sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 16 15:57:26 2007
[03:37] <aaro1> Oh well. Webmail it is for now I guess :/
[03:37] <LjL> Eedge: you need to reboot too
[03:37] <aczid> oh you allready got that :)
[03:37] <dot> LjL: well it won't play me pm3 files
[03:38] <dot> mp3*
[03:38] <JSweeney> hey all, I am looking for some help installing apache 2.0.59 --can anyone help?
[03:38] <LjL> dot: but libxine1-ffmpeg installed successfully?
[03:38] <Eedge> LjL: That's exactly what I have done :)
[03:38] <Vlet> aaro1: check out http://www.omesc.com/node/1
[03:38] <dot> LjL: terminal said: libxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version and 0 upgraded + newly installed 0 to remove and 0 upgraded
[03:39] <Zar> Hi. I'm new to Linux and want to migrate from Windows XP. I already have Ubuntu working and was wondering if there is a better firewall for Ubuntu. Firestarter looks a little bit limited compared to other app I use in Windows.Doeas someone have any suggestion?
[03:40] <LjL> dot: does it only say "Error loading media"? that error is usually followed by another explanation message
[03:40] <dot> LjL: can you help?
[03:40] <jetscreamer> Zar: try guarddog or shorewall perhaps
[03:41] <twoshadetod> how can i change the default window size? say like when I open up firefox, and click it from full screen to "regular" it still is full screen, I have to manually resize it
[03:41] <jetscreamer> Zar: or man iptables to eliminate the front end
[03:41] <dot> LjL: Error Loading Media No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.
[03:41] <Crozar> twoshadetod: the new UbuntU 7.10 is all good :D
[03:41] <jetscreamer> twoshadetod: don't leave it maximized when you close it
[03:41] <Pici> Crozar: Please do not suggest 7.10 until it is officially released.
[03:41] <jrib> !devilspie > twoshadetod (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:41] <LjL> dot: are you on Feisty?
[03:42] <Crozar> Pici: :D
[03:42] <jetscreamer> twoshadetod: that's a quick workaround not a fix
[03:42] <dot> LjL: yes
[03:42] <Zar> jetscreamer: Thanks. I have another question that may sound stupid. Do I need an anti-virus?
[03:42] <twoshadetod> jetscreamer, I'll try but I think it doens't matter
[03:42] <LjL> !virus > Zar    (Zar, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:42] <jetscreamer> Zar: not usually, unless you want to scan a windows partition
[03:42] <twoshadetod> jetscreamer, I remember once i made the terminal have a "default" launching size something in termcaps, i wonder if this is it but i'll check that, ill make it smaller then close it and relaunch
[03:42] <Crozar> Pici: im using kde desktop on ubuntu , i want to open a .tar file and it cant it askes me to open with something , so i knew archive manager is for gnome so i got 7zip i cant locate it to open it with it wehre will it be?
[03:43] <Blindraven> Zar just use iptables combined with gresecurity.
[03:43] <jetscreamer> Crozar: try file-roller
[03:43] <Crozar> whats that jetscreamer
[03:43] <twoshadetod> jrib, checking it out
[03:43] <jetscreamer> Crozar: it's what you want... or you could man tar
[03:43] <Zar> jetscreamer: yep, would be nice to scan an Windows partition since I will run Linux on dual-boot for now.
[03:43] <dot> LjL: yes im on feisty
[03:43] <jetscreamer> !info file-roller
[03:43] <ubotu> file-roller: an archive manager for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 588 kB, installed size 4508 kB
[03:44] <Crozar> Xarchive is not good>?
[03:44] <Crozar> or Karchive
[03:44] <alain> ei guys.. i realy like the TSCu_Comic font..y it isnt in gutsy
[03:44] <jetscreamer> Crozar: the default kde one is called ark... i personally prefer file-roller
[03:44] <jetscreamer> ymmv
[03:44] <Zar> jetscreamer: If someone get acces to my system through Ubuntu it is possible to the hacker to infect my Windows system partition?
[03:44] <aaro1> Vlet: thanks. I'll check that out. Got to insall a PC right now. Oh joy
[03:44] <tech0007> !fixres
[03:44] <aguitel> anyone use k3b in ubuntu ? it freeze sometimes my system
[03:45] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:45] <Crozar> thanks jetscreamer
[03:45] <twoshadetod> jetscreamer, I'll be damned...
[03:45] <jetscreamer> Zar: possibly
[03:45] <BrandonM> Hello and good morning Ubuntu gods. I summon your knowledge!
[03:45] <jetscreamer> been there done that, twoshadetod
[03:45] <twoshadetod> jetscreamer, I'm suprised I never closed it in the size I liked ....it worked
[03:45] <twoshadetod> jetscreamer, thanks alot
[03:45] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi (amsg)
[03:46] <BrandonM> Anyone care to take a shot at my installation problem?
[03:46] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | BrandonM
[03:46] <ubotu> BrandonM: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:46] <Pici> !ask | BrandonM
[03:46] <Pici> Paddy_EIRE: ah, too slow today :)
[03:46] <BrandonM> ok
[03:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Pici: :)
[03:46] <aguitel> anyone use k3b in ubuntu ? it freeze sometimes my system
[03:46] <LjL> dot: i'm *googling*. breathing on my neck won't help.
[03:47] <[maTa] > how to remove LVM from disk?
[03:47] <dot> LjL: ook thanks for helping
[03:47] <Zar> jetscreamer: is there any way I can lock my C: drive (the one with Windows system files) from inside Ubuntu, so I can avoid intrusions?
[03:47] <LjL> dot: try closing amarok, then    mv ~/.xine ~/.xine-backup       , then opening amarok again
[03:47] <BrandonM> I am trying to install the AMD64 edit. of 7.04, i boot to the CD, it gives me the installation menu options, I choose start/install, it looks like its starting to do something, then my screen goes to powersaving mode and the capslock and scrolllock lights flash in unison
[03:48] <jetscreamer> Zar: don't mount it? not sure exactly, but maybe better to work on the prevention rather than what happens if hacker is successful
[03:48] <LjL> dot, i said      mv ~/.xine/ ~/.xine-backup     not     mv ~/.xine/ ~/.xine/-backup
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> BrandonM: any particular reason why you are using the 64 bit
[03:49] <BrandonM> is there a reason I shouldnt?
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> BrandonM: many
[03:49] <BrandonM> ok
[03:49] <Zar> jetscreamer: Yeah, that would be better...just a little bit windows paranoid...lol
[03:49] <BrandonM> like what particular reasons?
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> BrandonM: well without going in to it unless you know why you are using it in the first place then dont
[03:50] <BrandonM> ok, so is that going to solve my install problem?
[03:50] <LjL> BrandonM, there's a couple of programs that simply won't work on amd64, mostly closed-source ones
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> BrandonM: try the 32 bit install much less hassle
[03:51] <dot> LjL: now its working, thank you
[03:51] <dot> but what did the command do
[03:51] <BrandonM> see the thing is Ive gotten Version 6.x to install just fine.
[03:51] <dot> what did I do for loosing the driver?
[03:51] <Zar> jetscreamer: I'm downloading Ubuntu Studio gutsy to try it, since I do a lot of media work. I read somewhere that you can write on NTFS drives by default on this version, is that right?
[03:51] <Se1> Hi evceryone
[03:51] <jdong> Zar: that is true
[03:51] <pythonguy> hey all, i install Gyachi last night, but i can't log on to the yahoo servers , all its saying is "logging failed.. invalid user.. or could not log in.. have any solutions for me ?
[03:51] <LjL> dot: get your ~/.xine directory out of the way. that's a directory that contains configuration files for Xine, the media engine that amarok uses to play stuff. google said that removing that directory solved that problem for other people.
[03:51] <Paddy_EIRE> BrandonM: where you using the 32 bit editions of those?
[03:52] <Zar> jdong: thanks, that's nice.
[03:52] <BrandonM> nope
[03:52] <BrandonM> 64bit
[03:52] <dot> LjL: is it out of the way now?
[03:52] <jdong> BrandonM: looks like a kernel panic; have you tried the 32-bit installer before?
[03:52] <LjL> dot: yes, although i've made you *move* it to somewhere else rather then *deleting* it, just in case. you can probably delete .xine-backup now if you want, though (but it'll just save you a couple of bytes on the disk)
[03:52] <BrandonM> I have not
[03:53] <BrandonM> I think I will do so
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> BrandonM: highly recommended
[03:53] <jdong> BrandonM: it's worth a shot... 64-bit is used by fewer people, so it's only natural that it might have more bugs
[03:53] <BrandonM> the only reason I switched out of 6.x was network performance was simply unacceptable
[03:53] <dot> LjL: thanks you are a real ubuntu god
[03:53] <jdong> BrandonM: in addition, there's no true benefit of 64-bit mode unless you need an app to address more than 4GB RAM
[03:53] <BrandonM> I tried all the IPV6 work arounds (disabling etc).....and the performance still sucked
[03:54] <Zar> I have another question maybe someone could help. I'm experiencing a lot of difficulties to make TV time to work with my PCTV card. It would be possible to run an Windows TV application using Wine?
[03:54] <nanonyme> brandonm, perhaps your problem isn't IPv6 then? :P
[03:54] <BrandonM> I will download the 32bit edition and see where that gets me though
[03:54] <Se1> Hi ! I have some problem with compiz. somethimes, the screen blinks for less than a second but it's annoying
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> BrandonM: works great here... you would have to be more specific
[03:54] <Se1> Someone to help ?
[03:54] <BrandonM> nano, agreed.
[03:54] <BrandonM> maybe it will all be perfect
[03:54] <jdong> Paddy_EIRE: sounds like one of those nasty interrupt-related issues
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> jdong: yeah
[03:55] <BrandonM> one last question: Does 7.04 32bit edit. automatically detect X-FI sound cards (I know creative just released the driver a few months back)
[03:55] <jdong> BrandonM: no, it doesn't
[03:55] <BrandonM> has anyone had problems/issues with the XFI driver yet?
[03:55] <BrandonM> is it pretty easy to install?
[03:55] <jdong> BrandonM: creative just released a binary, beta driver for it, and it's even beyond Gutsy's feature freeze. You would have to install it manually
[03:56] <BrandonM> ok
[03:56] <BrandonM> well I will go download 32bit and see what happens
[03:56] <BrandonM> maybe all will be good.
[03:57] <BrandonM> thankyouforyourhelps
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[03:58] <jetscreamer> Zar: i dunno, but if it doesn't, install ntfs-3g and use something similar to this in fstab: /dev/sda1               /home/.xp               ntfs-3g         auto,users,noexec,rw,umask=022,fmask=0113,dmask=002,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8  0 0   change the uid&gid maybe
[03:58] <xbeanx> what package contains zlib development libraries?
[03:58] <jetscreamer> type id to find out who you are
[03:58] <jetscreamer> xbeanx: try apt-cache search
[03:59] <xbeanx> thx
[03:59] <Zar> Thank you all. This community rocks!
[03:59] <Zar> Cya
[03:59] <Se1> An other problem, sometimes my computer is stuck and the only way is to reboot it manualy. Someone knows why ?
[04:00] <anhaa> Se1., probably you have one corrupted service.. go to your shell and try top...
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Se1: have you tried holding down alt+SysRq  then typing REISUB instead of powering of your comp manually
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Se1: not now though.. whenever the freeze happens..
[04:01] <Se1> Paddy_EIRE
[04:01] <Se1> Thanks, i'
[04:01] <Se1> ll try next time
[04:01] <dave2_> quit
[04:02] <anhaa> Se1, or try this Alt+Ctrl+F2 (F3,F4,etc..)-> write reboot in promt
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Se1: also are you using an ati card and running beryl? this causes system lockups sometimes
[04:02] <anhaa> prompt
[04:02] <Se1> Paddy_EIRE: no, I'm running compiz-fusion with a NVidia 7600
[04:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Se1: does it happen when you are running compiz-fusion
[04:03] <Se1> anhaa: How can i see if a service is corrupted or not
[04:03] <Se1> ?
[04:04] <Se1> Paddy_EIRE: this freezing thing ? yes, it happens when I'm running Compiz
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Se1: compiz-fusion is still in early beta stages and is very unstable
[04:04] <anhaa> issue that im thinking: if i install newest ubuntu, does it have repository for vmware? and can i start with vmware my present windows xp virtual machine, and can i use the programs in windows like i use it now (office, games, etc....)
[04:05] <etronik> Hello all! my samba shared printers stopped printing after I upgraded to the 2.6.15-29-k7 kernel... any ideias ? thanks in advance !!
[04:05] <Se1> Paddy_EIRE: I see, that's maybe the point. but I'm worried about the computer stuck sometimes
[04:05] <Se1> Paddy_EIRE: Do you think it'll be better with the new release (I mean for Compiz, which should be inclued in Gusty)
[04:06] <profanephobia> i need to backup multiple windows computers over ssh to an ubuntu server... what would be the best way of doing this while trying to avoid installing cygwin
[04:06] <eistee> hi
[04:06] <CapaH> Quick question, I have a 64 bit processor but some people have told me that getting the 32 bit version is better, can someone give me suggestions on this?
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> Se1: maybe maybe not, I'm not a big fan of eye candy
[04:07] <Se1> Paddy_EIRE: I see, ok. Thanks anyway
[04:07] <chook> #join ubuntu-fr
[04:07] <bullgard4> What do the device names  LID0, SLPB, AZAL, RP01, RP02, RP03, RP04, LANB and MODM in /proc/acpi/wakeup stand for?
[04:08] <bullgard4> What do the device names  LID0, SLPB, AZAL, RP01, RP02, RP03, RP04, LANB and MODM in /proc/acpi/wakeup stand for?
[04:08] <LjL> CapaH, it's not "better", it just runs more software because some (closed source, mostly) software only has a 32 bit version. the performance advantages of 64 bit are negligible.
[04:09] <M_WS> I just installed Ubuntu for the first time and Im trying to get my driver for my network card to work with ndiswrapper - but when I use it, i get "permission denied at /usr/bbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 146 - How do I change these permission settings?
[04:09] <Paddy_EIRE> !root | M_WS
[04:09] <ubotu> M_WS: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:09] <LjL> bullgard4: i don't know, but they're quite certainly the events that can make your computer turn on from soft-off. MODM is a RING from the modem, LANB is the network card, LID0 is a laptop's lid sensor - those are my guesses, no idea about the others
[04:10] <IdleOne> M_WS: use sudo before the command see if that fixes it
[04:10] <bullgard4> LjL: Are you not mixing things? wakeup designates them as 'devices', not 'events'.
[04:10] <profanephobia> ok no answer.... well how about permanently mounting a samba share over an ssh connection
[04:11] <atlfalcons866> should i use reiserfs or ext3
[04:11] <IdleOne> ext3
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> atlfalcons866: yeah use ext3
[04:11] <LjL> bullgard4: call them what you prefer, but they're *devices* that can cause a wakeup *event* :)
[04:11] <atlfalcons866> but ext3 uses 5% of the space
[04:11] <Pici> atlfalcons866: then why are you asking us if you don't want to use it?
[04:11] <bullgard4> LjL: This answer is diplomatic.
[04:11] <IdleOne> atlfalcons866: how much space do you have?
[04:12] <atlfalcons866> 6GB harddrive
[04:12] <Paddy_EIRE> atlfalcons866: drives are really very cheap these days
[04:12] <kyros> Anyone know of a howto for  getting files from Windoze to Ubuntu through Wubi?
[04:12] <atlfalcons866> its for my old laptop
[04:13] <IdleOne> when did microsoft change the spelling of the OS they release?
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> atlfalcons866: 6gb is not going to cut it im afraid
[04:13] <IdleOne> atlfalcons866: then use reiserfs
[04:13] <atlfalcons866> kyros: use a thumb drive
[04:14] <kyros> its a 4g music folder...i dont have the money for a big enough thumb drive or time to use a smaller one
[04:14] <atlfalcons866> i guess i will use jfs  and xubuntu
[04:14] <atlfalcons866> do you have a dvd burner
[04:14] <kyros> ya... i never thought of that
[04:14] <jetscreamer> jfs is good
[04:14] <jetscreamer> very good
[04:14] <atlfalcons866> i have had problems with it though
[04:15] <M_WS> When I use sudo to use ndiswrapper I get "Timestamp too far in the future" - what does this mean?
[04:15] <jetscreamer> i had one only, and fsck fixed it... power outage no ups
[04:15] <jatt> wow
[04:15] <jetscreamer> >1 outage, just one error
[04:15] <atlfalcons866> the only problem i had with jfs was fragmentation
[04:15] <IdleOne> means you have already reached the time before ndiswrapper has and it isnt sure if you know what time it is... btw what are the loto numbers?
[04:16] <misiek9321> hej jest ktos z polski
[04:16] <jetscreamer> !pl
[04:16] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:16] <M_WS> IdleOne, what do you mean?
[04:16] <atlfalcons866> are laptop hard drives cheap now?
[04:16] <IdleOne> M_WS: was a bad joke sorry
[04:16] <jetscreamer> he means tell us the winning lottery numbers for friday
[04:16] <jetscreamer> this coming friday
[04:16] <geefinator> depends on what you think is cheap i guess.
[04:16] <misiek9321> #ubuntu-pl
[04:16] <M_WS> I wasnt quite sure - this is all new to me
[04:16] <jetscreamer> /join #ubuntu-pl
[04:17] <geefinator> M_WS:  He was just kidding around with you :P
[04:17] <markvandenborre> hm, I only have one virtual desktop with compiz fusion enabled
[04:17] <W9ZEB> ok, besides installing cpufrequtils.  is there something I have to do to make them take effect automatically every time the system starts?
[04:17] <misiek9321> jest ktos z polski
[04:17] <Pici> !pl | misiek9321
[04:17] <ubotu> misiek9321: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:17] <markvandenborre> somewhat of a pity since I'm doing a presentation on gutsy next sunday
[04:17] <IdleOne> misiek9321: /join #ubuntu-pl
[04:17] <W9ZEB> I want to use the conservative setting by default with 1.8ghz - 800mhz settings
[04:18] <markvandenborre> any hints on enabling mutliple virtual desktops ("the cube") in compiz-fusion?
[04:18] <maj> has anybody gotten or had experience with Intel ICH7R controller under ubuntu server 6.06LTS?  I am trying to figure out if it supports it or not.
[04:19] <IdleOne> !compiz | markvandenborre
[04:19] <ubotu> markvandenborre: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:19] <atlfalcons866> !ext3
[04:19] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:20] <Narada> Is there ubuntu for macs?
[04:20] <IdleOne> !ppc | Narada
[04:20] <ubotu> Narada: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[04:20] <W9ZEB> anyone know how to make the cpu frequency scalling work by default on boot?
[04:20] <markvandenborre> IdleOne, thx!
[04:21] <Narada> IdleOne: i'm assuming then that for intel macs it is same as pc?
[04:21] <IdleOne> Narada: yes
[04:24] <atlfalcons866> did anyone install ubuntu on a ps3
[04:24] <Alatar> Hello?
[04:25] <atlfalcons866> !ps3
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <lunz> how do i put shortcut icon on the bottom of desktop like mac?
[04:25] <nixno0b> is there any app that monitors power consumption?
[04:25] <Alatar> Can anyone tell me if WiFi Dongles are supported in Ubuntu/Edubuntu?
[04:26] <firbios> jdong: thank  you, i'll try with trm920.blacklist=true.
[04:26] <davemlinux1> No logout sound on 7.10, how can i fix this?
[04:26] <Pici> davemlinux1: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy/7.10 support/discussion.
[04:26] <ledreamer> hello ervery body
[04:26] <davemlinux1> I tried with gui but no luck
[04:28] <w00tzilla> I have a question about a couple of partitions
[04:28] <w00tzilla> I used gparted to repartiion the drives
[04:28] <w00tzilla> and i no longer have "write" priveleges to the drive.  read only
[04:29] <M_WS> When I use sudo to use ndiswrapper I get "Timestamp too far in the future" - what does this mean? Im trying to get my wireless network card to work.
[04:31] <minus> Hi there ppl. Does anyone know why my Canon EOS 400D doesn't show up on the desktop like other cameras do?
[04:31] <minus> Where is cameras mounted so I can manually get there?
[04:31] <skoenman> Can anybody tell me if it is possable to setup a postfix server in the place of a exchange???
[04:31] <nixno0b> No one knows any apps that monitor power consumption?
[04:32] <Simon80> nixno0b, g-p-m does that, sort of, offers a history graph and stuff
[04:33] <Simon80> anyone know why subpixel smoothing of fonts would be blurrier in gutsy?
[04:33] <Alan> I currently have an Atheros chipset wifi card i bought originally because of linux compat, but the range isn't that good....  what is the best linux compat minipci wireless card?
[04:33] <w00tzilla> Anyone know why I lose write priveleges with my general user account if I use Gparted to partition the drive?  Using 7.04 (Ubuntu Studio)
[04:33] <minus> w00tzilla, chmod?
[04:33] <buntu_bum> hello all
[04:34] <w00tzilla> yeah.  the root account is the only one that has write access
[04:34] <Alatar> Can anyone tell me if WiFi Dongles are supported in Ubuntu/Edubuntu?
[04:34] <jetscreamer> gparted is scary2me
[04:34] <w00tzilla> if I change it, it still does not work for my user account
[04:34] <Alatar> USB Based ones I mean
[04:34] <minus> w00tzilla, what filesystem is it?
[04:34] <w00tzilla> ext3
[04:34] <buntu_bum> anybody familiar with network manager in 7.10, im havhing trouble using the nm-applet
[04:34] <minus> buntu_bum, I have some problems too...
[04:34] <Alan> !+1
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <Simon80> buntu_bum, not enough information
[04:34] <riotkittie> w00tzilla: how are you launching it?
[04:34] <Pici> buntu_bum: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy/7.10 support/discussion.
[04:35] <Alan> heh
[04:35] <skoenman> Can anybody tell me if it is possable to setup a postfix server in the place of a exchange???
[04:35] <DBlue> Hi I have GNU/Linux dual boot now, I installed Arch Linux, but I don't know how to setup grub, so that both Ubuntu and Arh can be booted from grub?
[04:35] <Simon80> Pici: thanks
[04:35] <buntu_bum> alatar, try to find a usb dongle with a zydas 1211 chip in it, those should work out of the box
[04:35] <Alatar> Thanks :)
[04:35] <w00tzilla> riotkittie: I installed it via synaptic and it shows up in the "Administration" menu
[04:35] <buntu_bum> multiple applets spawn in they tray at startup minus?
[04:35] <DBlue> Does anyone know how to setup dualboot?
[04:36] <riotkittie> w00tzilla: do you have /one/ hard drive?
[04:36] <minus> buntu_bum, no.. rather that it loads forever and shows that it doesn't get any IPs eventhough I can surf the net xD
[04:36] <w00tzilla> riotkittie: I have two hard drives installed and one USB that I use. the secondary internal and the usb both have this problem
[04:36] <riotkittie> w00tzilla: are they mounted at the time?
[04:37] <firbios> hy i have a problem in install ubuntu "CHARGEMENT MODULE TRM290 POUR IDE CHIPSET SUPPORT"
[04:37] <w00tzilla> according to gparted, they were not mounted.  they have to be dismounted if my memory serves me right
[04:37] <nixno0b> Simon80, g-p-m from apt?
[04:37] <drhumanist> hi ppl
[04:37] <buntu_bum> im also having trouble manually setting up network configs, the applet crashes out with a seg fault
[04:37] <etronik> Any Samba experts in here ?? :-) my printers stopped doing their thing... since I ugraded the kernel...
[04:37] <drhumanist> are we gonna able to upgrade from feisty to gutsy so flawlessly as claimed?
[04:38] <drhumanist> or should i do smth else before?
[04:38] <Simon80> nixno0b, gnome-power-manager, comes with ubuntu by default
[04:38] <nrdb> Hi I have a problem.  I just rebooted my 6.06 install, and it said it couldn't find the inittab.  So I rebooted into my 7.10 install, now when I mount the partition (hda5) witch had my 6.06 install on it there is no 'etc' directory listed.  Is there anyway to recover this directory ?
[04:38] <tech0007> drhumanist...i did
[04:38] <DBlue> Come on help me, with the dualboot?
[04:38] <Simon80> nixno0b: right click on the power icon in gnome -> power history
[04:38] <firbios> i neeeeeeeeeed help
[04:39] <kyleBAKED> i have a partition currently mounted to /home and i need to unmount it, but home is always busy, what could i do?
[04:39] <drhumanist> tech0007 - what are your immediate observations? any driver problem - esp related to nVidia??
[04:39] <firbios> i hy i have a problem in install ubuntu "CHARGEMENT MODULE TRM290 POUR IDE CHIPSET SUPPORT"
[04:39] <DBlue> kyleBAKED: boot as root
[04:39] <riotkittie> kyleBAKED: why do you need to unmount /home :o
[04:39] <tech0007> drhumanist...sorry dude.dont have nvidia
[04:39] <nrdb> kyleBAKED: change your /etc/fstab and reboot
[04:39] <DBlue> kyleBAKED: the umount home
[04:39] <Simon80> firbios: I personally have no clue what that means, or where you might have seen it :|
[04:39] <kyleBAKED> the partition i put my home drive home is full, and im just going to merge it with another one
[04:40] <nixno0b> Simon80, power icon?
[04:40] <drhumanist> tech007 - ok buddy :) Any other problems in general?
[04:40] <tech0007> drhumanist...install all updates for feisty first before u dive to gutsy
[04:40] <kyleBAKED> ty, ill try both of those
[04:40] <erUSUL> kyleBAKED: do it from a livecd
[04:40] <riotkittie> !GRUB | DBlue (check the last link)
[04:40] <tech0007> drhumanist...for gutsy questions #ubuntu+1
[04:40] <ubotu> DBlue (check the last link): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:40] <app_> Who understands console-setup package? I dpkg-reconfigured it for Finnish, but after reboot I am back to square one...
[04:40] <firbios> Simon80: ok i am trying to install ubuntu 7.04 server I start it like everone else then it gets to loading trm 290 and stops. Anyways i tryed to go through expert way and not load trm290 but then it loads another one but that one stops lol. is there another ways to get ubuntu server install or is there away to fix i see alot of people have that same problem as me but no help to gitting my...
[04:40] <firbios> ...server installed. i so want ubuntu as my server.
[04:40] <kyleBAKED> ill see what I can do, thanks
[04:40] <drhumanist> tech007 - oki
[04:40] <drhumanist> thx
[04:41] <tech0007> np
[04:41] <Simon80> nixno0b: go to system > preferences > power management > general tab, and enable the icon, then you'll see what I mean
[04:41] <app_> How do I get Finnish support for console?
[04:41] <Simon80> in feisty, I mean
[04:41] <app_> In Feisty.
[04:41] <LjL> can anyone recommend a good IRC bouncer, with robust logging, auto /away on disconnect, not too hard to configure, and without surprises (such as automatic away messages or nick changes)?
[04:41] <DBlue> riotkittie: I have Ubuntu and Arch, and I don't how to add Arch in the menu.lst of grub
[04:42] <ThunderStruck> LjL, for xchat?
[04:42] <usr_rob> if i add a new drive as slave into the system can i mount this on /var , thou the system is already installed?
[04:42] <DBlue> riotkittie: are you there?
[04:42] <paulowsky> ?
[04:42] <ThunderStruck> LjL, there is something in search irc last time i checked but i think it was a bot
[04:42] <w00tzilla> Riotkittie:  any ideas on that?
[04:43] <Alan> whats a good minipci (laptop builtin) wireless chipset for linux use?
[04:43] <usr_rob> ( i have mounted the drive on /home now )
[04:43] <Pici> LjL: irssi can bounce iirc, but only to one server per process/port
[04:43] <app_> What the f..k? I go to System / Preferences / Sound and pres button Test, and the whole Windows dies!!!
[04:43] <Simon80> firbios: I dunno, I guess you could file a bug about it
[04:43] <riotkittie> DBlue: following the last link would do you a lot of good, and will explain it better than I can in my feverish state
[04:43] <LjL> ThunderStruck: for anything (i'm generally on konversation, but it shouldn't matter) - just an irc proxy. i'm on muh currently, but it's far from optimal
[04:44] <Simon80> firbios: maybe you should see if it's still a problem in 7.10, since that's almost out now
[04:44] <Simon80> firbios: but I don't have any real answers
[04:44] <ThunderStruck> LjL, i remember something like that in search results i just wish i was able to run it
[04:44] <DBlue> riotkittie: but I don't have windows
[04:44] <LjL> Pici: one server at a time is fine, but i'd rather use a dedicated program... there are a few in the repositories, but i'd just rather avoid trying them all, since it takes a while to find out whether they work well or not
[04:44] <firbios> Simon80: ok thkx
[04:44] <LjL> ThunderStruck, there are a few, just not all of them are good - or even close
[04:44] <riotkittie> w00tzilla: no, i can't understand why you'd be able to launch gparted from the Admin menu, but not be able to modify partitions outside of them being mounted.  Launch it from a term instead, [gksu gparted]  and see if it gives you any error messages
[04:45] <app_> God, nothing works. No Finnish in console, Gdm initial resolutions  was wrong, Sound setup just crashes...I am soon ready to go back to Windows.
[04:45] <ThunderStruck> LjL, ah ok
[04:45] <riotkittie> DBlue: <sigh>. The /last/ link did not deal with windows. look again :P
[04:45] <nrdb> Hi I have a problem.  I just rebooted my 6.06 install, and it said it couldn't find the inittab.  So I rebooted into my 7.04 install, now when I mount the partition (hda5) witch had my 6.06 install on it there is no 'etc' directory listed.  Is there anyway to recover this directory ?
[04:45] <riotkittie> !GRUB | DBlue
[04:45] <ubotu> DBlue: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:45] <DBlue> riotkittie: sorry, and thanks
[04:45] <LjL> !locales | app_
[04:45] <ubotu> app_: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[04:46] <w00tzilla> riotkittie:  thanks and I will give it a shot
[04:46] <riotkittie> w00tzilla: good luck. if you cant get it to work, you can go to sourceforge and download the gparted live CD :|  i tend to have better luck with that myself. though i have never run into your current issue
[04:48] <maj> has anybody gotten or had experience with Intel ICH7R controller under ubuntu server 6.06LTS?  I am trying to figure out if it supports it or not.
[04:48] <w00tzilla> riotkittie:  I plan on doing a fresh install of 7.10 later this week anyway so I will probably just deal with it until then and properly set up my /home to the second hard drive which I did not do the first time.
[04:48] <riotkittie> i was stupid last night, and started repartitioning, then ran a shutdown -h [time]  having no clue when my partitioning would stop :o i didnt realiza what a bad idea that had been til i woke up
[04:48] <DrCuddles> Hello?
[04:48] <LjL> riotkittie, ugh, talk about looking for trouble
[04:48] <LjL> !hi | DrCuddles
[04:48] <ubotu> DrCuddles: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:49] <firbios> :o
[04:49] <DrCuddles> woo a welcome xD
[04:49] <firbios> (s)
[04:49] <LjL> !rootirc | root
[04:49] <ubotu> root: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.
[04:49] <firbios> :d
[04:49] <firbios> :D
[04:50] <adante> hi, can someone explain exactly what comprises a release?
[04:50] <firbios> :I
[04:50] <LjL> adante: define "comprises"
[04:50] <Dblue> I can't still dual boot
[04:50] <tech0007> Dblue...log in to feisty as regular user then join irc
[04:50] <LjL> firbios: practicing smileys?
[04:50] <firbios> ;D
[04:50] <Dblue> tech0007: what?
[04:50] <adante> LjL: what makes up a release
[04:50] <firbios> yes
[04:50] <LjL> firbios, stop please... it just causes unneeded scrolling on the channel :)
[04:51] <w00tzilla> new release every 6 months.
[04:51] <Dblue> tech0007: what is wrong being root, a?
[04:51] <tech0007> Dblue...never mind :-D
[04:51] <DrCuddles> a release meaning a finished product?
[04:51] <LjL> adante: i don't get the question. a release is out every 6 months, and the developers try hard to make it a stable collection of packages when it comes out...
[04:51] <skoenman> Can anybody tell me if it is possable to setup a postfix server in the place of a exchange???
[04:51] <adante> LjL: so, it is a stable collection of packages, anything else?
[04:51] <Dblue> tech0007: I need to setup for Two GNU/Linux booting
[04:51] <DrCuddles> Linux
[04:51] <tech0007> !rootirc | Dblue
[04:52] <riotkittie> Dblue: how did you try to boot arch? ark? whatever it was? did you go the chainloader route or no?
[04:52] <ubotu> Dblue: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.
[04:52] <redico> hi again, Gutsy Gibbon  will be released tomorrow for Ubuntu and Kubuntu ?
[04:52] <DrCuddles> woo
[04:52] <DrCuddles> cant wait
[04:52] <DrCuddles> xD
[04:52] <Dblue> riotkittie: no
[04:52] <Pici> redico: 18tg.
[04:53] <redico> Pici : 18tg means ?
[04:53] <DrCuddles> With Gutsy Gibbon, does all the 3D desktop effects come with it?
[04:53] <DrCuddles> *18th
[04:53] <DrCuddles> ?
[04:53] <Pici> redico: er, 18th.
[04:53] <redico> ah okay
[04:53] <riotkittie> Dblue: you set up an entry for it with title, root, kernel etc etc?
[04:53] <Dblue> riotkittie: I did
[04:53] <redico> but does Kubuntu come the same day?
[04:53] <Pici> redico: Yes.
[04:53] <redico> THANK YOU ALL
[04:53] <DrCuddles> What is the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[04:53] <riotkittie> Dblue: what error did GRUB give when you tried to boot that other distro?
[04:53] <Dblue> riotkittie: title root (hd0,3)
[04:54] <Pici> !desktops | DrCuddles
[04:54] <ubotu> DrCuddles: A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors
[04:54] <redico> is there long time soupport vor the Gutsy Gibbon ?
[04:54] <LjL> adante: ... it's a CD you install Ubuntu from. really, i'm just not sure what you're asking
[04:54] <Dblue> riotkittie: image not found
[04:54] <w00tzilla> drCuddles:  Ubuntu uses the Gnome desktop and Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop.
[04:54] <riotkittie> DrCuddles: ubuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu use KDE
[04:54] <Pici> redico: no. 8.04 will be LTS.
[04:54] <riotkittie> redico: no. lts is april
[04:54] <DrCuddles> what is the difference between Gnome and KDE may i ask?
[04:54] <Dblue> riotkittie: my arch is on hda4
[04:55] <bullgard4> What do the device names  LID0, SLPB, AZAL, RP01, RP02, RP03, RP04, LANB and MODM in /proc/acpi/wakeup stand for?
[04:55] <Dblue> riotkittie: but with its instructions it said sda4, not hda4
[04:55] <redico>  hehe , dont mind - i am upgraded fisty fawn ... and i got some problems ... always :)   really looking forward to gibbon
[04:55] <LjL> DrCuddles: they're completely different environments. written in different languages, based on different GUI toolkits, with different UI design guidelines
[04:55] <DrCuddles> hmmm
[04:55] <DrCuddles> so...
[04:55] <Kilroo> Wait a minute, I thought except for the first three those were window managers, not desktop environments...
[04:56] <Dblue> riotkittie: and there for =, in root, like this: root = /dev/sda4 ro
[04:56] <DrCuddles> if i wanted all the cool 3D Desktop features which would i use?
[04:57] <riotkittie> hmm.
[04:57] <M_WS> How do i start ndisgtk (graphic interface for ndiswrapper)?????
[04:57] <Dblue> riotkittie: are you there?
[04:57] <cobb28> DrCuddles: It would be easier for a beginner to use Ubuntu (Gnome) to enable it
[04:57] <spinoza> when i create a file or dir with my remote development tool the create dir of file does not inherit the permissions of the parent but only mine. How do i make the folders and files inherit from the parnt dir
[04:57] <DrCuddles> thank you
[04:57] <DrCuddles> i see my newness to the OS shows :] 
[04:57] <adante> LjL: i guess i was just wondering what sort of features are to be expected in the new release, and if i threw in a gutsy repos into my sources.list and updated packages via apt today, would there be any difference from doing whatever it is that is done to upgrade ubuntu to 7.10
[04:57] <Pici> DrCuddles: Everyone was new once.
[04:57] <DrCuddles> Thank You!
[04:58] <DrCuddles> :] 
[04:58] <redico>  and, installing "Gutsy Gibbon" now, will be upgradeable to release "Gutsy Gibbon" ? or is it in fact ready ?  someone knows?
[04:58] <cobb28> DrCuddles: I'm new also :) I will say this OS is a bit easier on my brain than Gentoo was :)
[04:58] <riotkittie> Dblue: are you pointing at the right kernel?
[04:58] <DrCuddles> im just reinstalling Ubuntu on my main PC now
[04:58] <DrCuddles> Fiesty Fox
[04:58] <DrCuddles> something happened and it gave me a headache
[04:58] <DrCuddles> so i just thought blah
[04:58] <Dblue> riotkittie: like I read the instructions from arch setup
[04:58] <LjL> adante: ah, then you're asking what's new in Gutsy and how to upgrade. that's a question :-) just plugging the new repos into sources.list is likely to cause trouble. quite likely. we'd all like to be able to apt-get dist-upgrade, but due to technical limitations, it's really much better to use the dedicate upgrade tool
[04:59] <Manz> anyone know why I cant install xchat?
[04:59] <abcde_> Beagle isn't indexing some of my drives.  I did some research, and I read that it is because one is FAT32, and I'd assume since the other isn't indexing because it's NTFS.  Does anyone know how I can get these drives indexed?
[04:59] <redico> -----manz  because of the "RTFM" ?
[04:59] <Manz> redico, what is RTFM?
[04:59] <DrCuddles> I was a user of Vista, how crap is it plz? lol
[04:59] <Pici> !rtfm | redico
[04:59] <ubotu> redico: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[04:59] <riotkittie> redico: simmer down
[05:00] <Pici> Manz: Are you getting an error?
[05:00] <riotkittie> Manz: are you getting some kind of error message?
[05:00] <redico> what is simmer?
[05:00] <LjL> adante: as for new features, there's a short introduction at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/RC - if you want something more detailed, look at the specs (some are implemented, some not) at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - and of course, you can check http://packages.ubuntu.com/ if you're interested to see if specific packages have been updated to newer versions
[05:00] <DrCuddles> like calm
[05:00] <kiddo369> In 7.2 server is there a network perfomance utility - much like top?
[05:00] <DrCuddles> but when your heating up milk xD
[05:00] <Manz> xchat: Depends: tcl8.4 (>= 8.4.5) but it is not installable
[05:00] <Manz> E: Broken packages
[05:00] <jhaig> kiddo369: pftop, maybe?
[05:01] <M_WS> question. when i install ndiswrapper through the add applications screen, where is it then installed to?
[05:01] <redico> manz, what does it say?
[05:01] <jhaig> kiddo369: iftop, but it may not be installed by default.
[05:01] <chandra> I'm using Gutsy. After logging in Gnome just hangs. In the syslog I could see this: gdm[10581] : WARNING: Didn't understand `' (expected true or false) . Does anyone know what this means?
[05:02] <aoupi> Manz: try installing the package called tcl8.4
[05:02] <kiddo369> jhaig: thanks - I am guessing if either one isn't installed by default there is a package availble for them?
[05:02] <DrCuddles> Chandra: There might be a function left open in one of your config files somewhere
[05:02] <LjL> Manz: "apt-cache policy tcl8.4", which version is available?
[05:03] <jhaig> kiddo369: Yes.  There is a package called iftop
[05:03] <chandra> DrCuddles: Where do I find the config files?
[05:03] <DrCuddles> What is the easiset way to enable my restricted NVIDIA drivers in Ubuntu on a clean build
[05:03] <aoupi> LjL: woa, 'apt-cache policy', didn't know about that, nice :)
[05:03] <kiddo369> jhaig: thank you again, greatly appreciated.
[05:03] <DrCuddles> Chandra im sorry mate but i simply am not sure, im new to this aswell, it just looked the most obvious thing to be the problem
[05:03] <adante> LjL: thanks! even if you still don't understand my question i think you answered it :] 
[05:03] <jhaig> kiddo369: There is also iptraf, which (I think) gives more detailed information.
[05:04] <redico> mm envy  installs driver  automatically ( but i dont have good results with this package  from debian on my ati )
[05:04] <Manz> for tcl 8.4, it says Package tcl8.4 has no installation candidate
[05:04] <Matthew^^> enode.org
[05:04] <tech0007> chandra...'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep EE'
[05:04] <Dblue> riotkittie: i tried update-grub in terminal, but nothing grub didn't found arch
[05:04] <Fat_Ferret> Hey, I had a kernel panic because I tried to update the nvidia drivers so it would run at my correct resolution is there anyway to fix this without format the whole system?
[05:05] <anolis> nautilus has died on my 7.10 install
[05:05] <upcguy> hi all im new to linux, i'm installing gaim with voice support , when i do "sudo make install" i get back "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop. can anyone help me out?
[05:05] <tech0007> chandra....#ubuntu+1 for gutsy
[05:05] <kiddo369> jhaig: even better, thanks
[05:05] <jstarcher> where can i get open office templates?
[05:05] <ThunderStruck> anolis, join #ubuntu+1
[05:05] <DrCuddles> Chandra: Join the IRC channel #ubuntu+1 for help on 7.10
[05:05] <rcooksey> where is my friends list cache in gaim messenger
[05:06] <FlyingPoopBricks> hi
[05:06] <redico> upcguy:  configure before - maybe?
[05:06] <chandra> Ok. I'm joning the Gutsy channel
[05:06] <DrCuddles> bye bye
[05:06] <Manz> how do I enable universe?
[05:06] <riotkittie> Dblue: my personal experience with using GRUB in such a manner has been very touch and go. you may be better off installing Arch's bootloader to the superblock of its partition, and then having GRUB chainload
[05:06] <Fat_Ferret> can anyone give me a hand with this kernel panic?
[05:06] <hendrixski> anybody use a Mac?  I'm about to write a post to my LUG about how not themable it is, I just want to double check that this is true?  anyone?
[05:07] <aoupi> !universe
[05:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:07] <upcguy> i did im getting the same thing
[05:07] <Dblue> riotkittie: there was option, but I skipped it
[05:07] <redico> Fat_Ferret:  i dont know if the only way is do adapt the driver ... can you not just try to adept xorg ?
[05:08] <aoupi> hendrixski: themable?
[05:08] <Fat_Ferret> wont even boot enough for me to enter commands
[05:08] <hendrixski> aoupi, yeah, as in can you change it to not be gray the whole time?
[05:08] <riotkittie> Dblue: !paste your menu.lst and see if anyone can find issue with it :| or try posting to the forums. i will take a peek, but i am full of narcotics sooo i'm not promising results
[05:09] <riotkittie> !paste | Dblue
[05:09] <ubotu> Dblue: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:09] <aoupi> hendrixski: oh, not very themable at all really, there are some buggy apps thou, nothing I'd recommend :)
[05:09] <hendrixski> aoupi, ah, that's what I thought.  my understanding is that the theme on a Mac is pretty static, I just want to double check before I make an ass of myself :-)
[05:09] <hendrixski> thanks
[05:09] <DrCuddles> henkrixski: I think it has a certain amount of them style changeabillity if yoo download apps for it off the net, but other than that Linux owns it all over the place. Also mention how crap WIndows Vista is aswell :] 
[05:09] <neopsyche> hi, im having some issue trying to figure out how to install alien-gui .. to run gui for alien ..
[05:09] <redico> Fat_Ferret:  i am not trained enough to help you. But anyway - where do you try to enter commands?
[05:09] <leitao> Do anyone know how could I enable/disable dad (duplication address detection) in my dhcp server?
[05:10] <hendrixski> DrCuddles, I know... which is why it amazes me that anyone would want to use something that's ALWAYS gray
[05:10] <riotkittie> hendrixski: answer Dblue's question. :P <hides>
[05:10] <Fat_Ferret> redico: Kernel panics on boot , I dont know how to drop to a prompt
[05:10] <DrCuddles> I am still using Vista atm
[05:10] <DrCuddles> and its terrible
[05:10] <riotkittie> because grey is visually appealing to some of us, hendrixski
[05:10] <hendrixski> leitao, I believe there's an Ubuntu-server channel  ... if nobody here knows, those guys definately will :-)
[05:10] <DrCuddles> and takes up about 30 time more memory
[05:10] <DrCuddles> *times
[05:11] <stondchef> so 7.10 comes out 12pm tonight?
[05:11] <stondchef> err 12am
[05:11] <stondchef> ?
[05:11] <hendrixski> what's Dblue's question?
[05:11] <riotkittie> 12pm tonight? <blink>
[05:11] <Pici> stondchef: It comes out when its done.
[05:11] <redico> Fat_Ferret:   so you "bake" a kernel ?
[05:11] <DrCuddles> what is the easiest way to install the NVIDIA restricted drivers on a clean 7.04 build? Do i just allow it through the Restricted Drivers Manager?
[05:11] <Pici> DrCuddles: Thats the easiest.
[05:11] <riotkittie> hendrixski: they are having GRUB issues. they want it to load another distro but their current incarnation of menu.lst gives a 'file not found'
[05:11] <TUXedomember> using gpilot how do i install apps to my palm?
[05:11] <Manz> on the wiki, you enable universe and multiverse using software properties, but in 7.04 i dont see that tab
[05:11] <DrCuddles> Pici: then i can use Beryl?
[05:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Manz: they are already enabled in feisty
[05:12] <Pici> !beryl | DrCuddles
[05:12] <Fat_Ferret> redico: no i was using a program that updates and/or installs different versions of the proper driver
[05:12] <aoupi> Fat_Ferret: a broken kernel aint fun, don't you have the old kernel left in grub?
[05:12] <DrCuddles> Pici: Or Compiz
[05:12] <hendrixski> riotkittie, oh man, that'd prolly be over my head... re-installing grub may autodetect all that stuff though
[05:12] <ubotu> DrCuddles: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged.  Help in #ubuntu-effects - see also !compiz
[05:12] <Kilroo> Out of curiosity, has anyone here successfully managed the trick of using an existing (dual-boot style) Windows XP installation through VMware player?
[05:12] <DrCuddles> !compiz
[05:12] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:12] <redico> so there is no old kernel you could boot via  your bootmanager ?
[05:13] <hendrixski> Kilroo, don't do it
[05:13] <hendrixski> I tried, I hozed my WIndows
[05:13] <DrCuddles> kk thanks will head there now THANKS ALL :] 
[05:13] <raky> i'm not getting the vmware EULA.  are all the packages .deb?
[05:13] <riotkittie> hendrixski: Grub only detects Ubuntu and ... some other OS ... none of my other distros, so I dont think so
[05:13] <aoupi> hendrixski: that's a feature
[05:13] <hendrixski> Kilroo, which was a good thing.. 'cause I just stopped using windows
[05:13] <raky> !vmware
[05:13] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:13] <Manz> has no one else had problems installing xchat?
[05:13] <Fat_Ferret> aoupi: grub still gives me the option to boot to it and it will try to boot but it will panic along the way when it tries to load video drivers
[05:13] <hendrixski> Grub isn't Ubuntu specific... it can detect any OS... from Windows, to Amiga, to Solaris, to any flavor of Linux
[05:14] <neopsyche> how can i make my program work.>?? its tar.gz?
[05:14] <abcde_> Beagle isn't indexing some of my drives.  I did some research, and I read that it is because one is FAT32, and I'd assume since the other isn't indexing because it's NTFS.  Does anyone know how I can get these drives indexed?  Or is there an alternative indexer that will?
[05:14] <Paddy_EIRE> hendrixski: or bsd
[05:14] <neopsyche> Trying to get ALIEN to work.
[05:14] <neopsyche> To get rpm to deb
[05:14] <neopsyche> to get xnview
[05:14] <riotkittie> hendrixski: i know it can detect any OS, but if i add a distro, i /always/ have to manually edit.    :|
[05:14] <neopsyche> to get gif image
[05:14] <aoupi> Fat_Ferret: if you know what you changed you could boot from a CD and, well, unchange it :)
[05:14] <neopsyche> instead of png
[05:14] <hendrixski> Paddy_EIRE, yes, and BSD... it probably even does HURD
[05:14] <neopsyche> (WHY SO COMPLICATED I DONT KNOW)
[05:15] <hendrixski> does more than LILO
[05:15] <riotkittie> LILO does a lot. like... makes small children cry. :x
[05:15] <Kilroo> I'd love to stop using windows. Get me Albatross18 support through Wine and a Linux driver for my OneTouch 8900 USB (usb support in Wine would do it, the scanner software installs and runs just fine with Wine) and I probably will, unless an employer makes it impossible.
[05:15] <Fat_Ferret> is there anyway to to simply format the linux partition and not loose windows so I can install 7.10 in a few days
[05:15] <DrCuddles> Noone is talking in #ubuntu-effects
[05:15] <Kilroo> Hmm...
[05:15] <pTaArmi> hi =)
[05:15] <Lunz> does ubuntu support dell laptop?
[05:16] <hendrixski> Lunz, yes
[05:16] <hendrixski> works great
[05:16] <DrCuddles> Noone is talking in #ubuntu-effects :[[[[[
[05:16] <hendrixski> I'm on a Dell laptop right now
[05:16] <Manz> why dpesnt ubuntu come with xchat anymore anyway?
[05:16] <Intrepd> Lunz: specifically which one?
[05:16] <Dblue> My system was overloaded
[05:16] <Vlet> Lunz: Yes, but depending on what laptop it is, you may have to do a little extra work to get things working 'just right'
[05:16] <hendrixski> DrCuddles, patience is the key word when it comes to IRC
[05:16] <Kilroo> I still haven't figured out a logical reason why Ubuntu drains my cordless mouse batteries so much slower than Windows did...
[05:16] <aoupi> Fat_Ferret: yes, there is, the installer will ask what partitions to hoose and which to keep (if you feel unsure when it asks you to confirm, ask in here)
[05:16] <Intrepd> Kilroo: wow really?
[05:16] <pTaArmi> does anybody know how to setup x for dualhead with 2 x-servers ( each monitor with 1 mouse and 1 keyboard)
[05:17] <Vlet> Kilroo: sample rate maybe
[05:17] <DrCuddles> hendrixski: kk "/ ill wait lol
[05:17] <neopsyche> cheers
[05:17] <hendrixski> DrCuddles, sometimes it's a few hours after asking a question that I get an answer on some channels... like mythtv or miro
[05:17] <DrCuddles> ok thanks
[05:17] <rob-e> if i install gutsy now will i be able to update to just update to the stable version r will i have to reinstall????
[05:17] <pTaArmi> i know..its an spezial question... in the forum is nobody who has an idea
[05:17] <redico> rob-e : best question
[05:17] <Vlet> rob-e: when it's released, you should be able to: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:17] <aoupi> rob-e: there should be no need to reinstall
[05:17] <Kilroo> Could be, Vlet. All I know is I had to switch out my rechargeable batteries in Windows every couple days...Linux, less than once a week.
[05:17] <riotkittie> heh. i got a warning my wireless mouse's battery was at 14% last night. if this was windows, it would be long dead :P it's still at 14%
[05:18] <rob-e> okay then, i know what im doing today
[05:18] <rob-e> thanks
[05:18] <redico> hf
[05:18] <aoupi> riotkittie: it's problably just the mystical inaccurasy of batteries: 100% ->1week later: 100% -> 1 day later 0%
[05:18] <Fat_Ferret> ok , thankyou both for the help I will try to install 7.10 in a few days when its released.   Now does anyone know how to install freebsd - j/k I have another machine for that
[05:18] <Dblue> riotkittie: my system overloaded and I restarted X, that's why i didn't send my grub menu to pastebin
[05:18] <Manz> XChat-GNOME IRC Chat cannot be installed on your computer type (i386).
[05:19] <claes_a> Trying to install Ubuntu 7 on a box with an Nvidia Quadro Gfx card. Am getting an screen instead of the live distro. Any tips?
[05:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Fat_Ferret: wrong channel
[05:19] <Fat_Ferret> thanks again guys- i was playing about freebsd
[05:19] <Dblue> riotkittie: wait few seconds to open the page
[05:19] <frojnd> hello there, Wheere can I get this part of gimp: http://shrani.si/f/3Z/SP/3rb7HAxc/gimp.png
[05:19] <hendrixski> Fat_Ferret, yeah... you rip out the LInux kernel, install BSD, do a little dance to the god of difficult things, and mabe, just maybe you can install bsd
[05:19] <Pici> Fat_Ferret: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy/7.10 support/discussion.
[05:19] <Lunz> intrepd,i am thinking og buying dell laptop,the latest model and i want to install ubuntu on it..should be no problem right?
[05:20] <app_> I tried dpkg-reconfigure for localconf and console-setup and console-data but still no Finnish characters in console!
[05:20] <amadeux> When I connect my camera, a camera wizard pops up and asks me if I want to import pictures. But I would like to access the camera(s memory card) manually instead. Where is it mounted or how can I mount it?
[05:20] <Vlet> Fat_Ferret: don't knock fbsd ;)
[05:20] <Paddy_EIRE> Lunz: which model
[05:20] <hendrixski> Lunz, or you can buy a Dell with Ubuntu already on it
[05:20] <Manz> did anyone else have problems getting xchat after isntalling the new 7.04 ?
[05:20] <aoupi> app_: writing or reading or both?
[05:20] <Vlet> amadeux: if there is not an icon on your desktop, check /media
[05:20] <hendrixski> Lunz, they sell laptops and desktops with UBuntu already on it... and they offer support over the phone if you have problems
[05:21] <Lunz> paddy_eire,wait up
[05:21] <Intrepd> Lunz: if its an option to buy the dell with ubuntu on it, then do that - if not, most things work out of the box.  For example, I had problems with my wireless card and it needed some extra work.
[05:21] <Fat_Ferret> honestly ubuntu has been the best distro by far that i've ever used, I love freebsd tho I was a user in the mid 90s and I have a pc dedicated to it at my feet so I am trying to relearn alot of things in a short time. Right now I have 2 ubuntu pcs and 2 freebsds
[05:21] <L0GAN> hello, whats up with the ubuntu version names?
[05:21] <Pici> !codenames | L0GAN
[05:21] <ubotu> L0GAN: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more
[05:21] <app_> aoupi: both
[05:21] <hendrixski> Lunz, http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[05:21] <hendrixski> they cost less
[05:21] <Intrepd> Fat_Ferret, i agree completely
[05:21] <hendrixski> work better
[05:21] <Paddy_EIRE> L0GAN: nothing
[05:21] <aoupi> app_: what does echo $LANG say?
[05:22] <Vlet> Fat_Ferret: I also used to use fbsd a lot - it still has a place in my heart, but yeah, ubuntu is just nice :)
[05:22] <Lunz> thanks guys
[05:22] <hendrixski> L0GAN, what do you mean?  the version names are cute
[05:22] <hendrixski> L0GAN,  and the number scheme is reasonable.. it's the year dot the month  so 7.10 is October 2007
[05:22] <hendrixski> Lunz, enjoy your new Ubuntu Dell :-)
[05:23] <L0GAN> well people refer to names instead of versions so i never know what version and what order
[05:23] <Paddy_EIRE> L0GAN: not exactly hard to remember
[05:23] <hendrixski> L0GAN, oh, if you go to wikipedia you'll see a list of them
[05:23] <hendrixski> Paddy_EIRE, neither are the names of fraternities on campus, but nobody can ever seem to get those right
[05:23] <L0GAN> vx.y is much easier to reference in my mind I guess :D
[05:24] <app_> aoupi: LANG is en_en...something.
[05:24] <app_> In console
[05:24] <hendrixski> L0GAN, Dapper is the LTS (long term support) which is supported for like 5 years or something like that
[05:24] <app_> X is JUST fine
[05:24] <aoupi> app_: does LANG end with UTF-8?
[05:24] <Lunz> hendrixski,will use it to maximum,so i couls show off to my fellow microsoft users..
[05:24] <hendrixski> L0GAN, edgy was... well, forget about it.. it's done.   Feisty Fawn is the current one and Gutsy Gibbon is the next one
[05:24] <L0GAN> funky names almost reminds me of windows :P
[05:24] <Techy> Is anyone here aware of ASN.1?
[05:25] <hendrixski> Lunz, nice.. yeah the next release comes with Beryl PRE-INSTALLED
[05:25] <hendrixski> so you'll be able to make any of them go WOW
[05:25] <Laserl> hi
[05:25] <app_> aoupi: it is en_US.UTF-8
[05:25] <L0GAN> Lovely Leopard (but that would get into trouble with Mac probably :)
[05:25] <hendrixski> L0GAN, yeah, everybody does it these days: Vista, feisty, Leapard, etc. etc.
[05:25] <Laserl> anyone know at which hour will 7.10 be released?
[05:26] <hendrixski> L0GAN, the next one after gutsy gibbon is hardy heron :-/  I want to shoot whoever came up with that one
[05:26] <hagna> sheesh where is the log of why cron won't launch this dang command?
[05:26] <hendrixski> Laserl, past your bed-time :-p
[05:26] <Lunz> hendrixski,beryl?i thought compiz-fusion is better?
[05:26] <nanonyme> laserl, don't be so impatient :)
[05:26] <hendrixski> Lunz, err... that's what I meant
[05:26] <minus> Is it possible to get aspell in Swedish while I use the rest of the operative system in english?
[05:26] <L0GAN> wow I see a 8.04... and we still wait for 7.10 to turn up :O
[05:26] <hendrixski> minus, yes
[05:26] <FastPutty> can ubuntu server could replace and does eveyrthing a cisco pix501 does?
[05:26] <app_> aoupi: since dpkg-reconfigure does not cut it, is there a magical place somewhere where to fix my locale?
[05:27] <minus> hendrixski, tell me how! :)
[05:27] <Paddy_EIRE> L0GAN: every 6 months
[05:27] <hendrixski> minus, just go to the synaptic package manager and install the language pack for it... it'll be one of a billion options
[05:27] <minus> hendrixski, well.. already done..
[05:27] <aoupi> app_: there is, I think it is /etc/locale.gen
[05:27] <L0GAN> you mean after 7.10 8.04 will come?
[05:27] <Lunz> hendrixski,i have problem using beryl manager so i remove it and i installed compiz-fusion and walla my desktop is like in the hacker's movies 1998..
[05:27] <minus> am I just supposed to relog?
[05:27] <Laserl> FastPutty: every linux distro could do it
[05:28] <minus> FastPutty, don't use Ubuntu for servers...
[05:28] <app_> aoupi: no "/etc/locale*" anyting
[05:28] <minus> Thats what Debian is for...
[05:28] <hendrixski> minus, oh... hhmmm, if that doesn't work then I dunno.... I have spelling set up for Polish and English  and that's pretty much all I did :-/
[05:28] <minus> ok
[05:28] <Ballena> minus: why not?
[05:28] <FastPutty> minus: k thanks you
[05:28] <Fat_Ferret> minus: what about the lamp server release?
[05:28] <hendrixski> Lunz, sweet.  Yeah, I have neither running.  But my girlfriend has beryl, and it's fucking sweet
[05:28] <vo> hi, i accidently ran mkfs.vfat on a previously fat32 partition. is there a way i can recover the data?
[05:28] <Laserl> well said minus
[05:29] <minus> Ballena, Ubuntu is less secure and less stable than  Debian is...
[05:29] <Paddy_EIRE> !ohmy | hendrixski
[05:29] <ubotu> hendrixski: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:29] <minus> So debian is the ultimate serverdist..
[05:29] <hendrixski> vo yes
[05:29] <minus> brb
[05:29] <minus> relog
[05:29] <Ballena> minus:  ok
[05:29] <aoupi> app_: do you understand swedish?
[05:29] <Pici> !server
[05:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[05:29] <hendrixski> vo there's a tool called photorec
[05:29] <app_> Ja, jag kan tala svenska
[05:29] <aoupi> app_: brabra http://www.lukaug.org/index.php?title=%C3%85%C3%A4%C3%B6_i_gnome-terminal&printable=yes
[05:29] <vo> hendrixski: thanks, i'll look it up
[05:29] <Vlet> server = openbsd :)
[05:29] <hendrixski> vo and it'll recover data from stuff that's over-written
[05:29] <app_> aoupI: ja, talar svenska
[05:29] <hendrixski> most of the data
[05:30] <hendrixski> some gets lost
[05:30] <app_> aoupi: ja, talar svenska
[05:30] <aoupi> app_: jag tror det ska funka
[05:30] <Lunz> hendrixski,so we can use the f*** in here?
[05:30] <Pici> !se | aoupi app_
[05:30] <ubotu> aoupi app_: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[05:30] <Pici> Lunz: No.
[05:30] <antzen__> any good tool for recovering data from an old DVD where Windows fails?
[05:30] <hendrixski> vo make sure you have plenty of free space to save the recovered data on... because it takes up like 5 times the amount of space it's recovering :-/
[05:30] <hendrixski> Lunz, we probably can't, It sliipped
[05:30] <minus> hendrixski, doesn't work...
[05:31] <Fat_Ferret> ok seems like many ppl have different opinions of what a server os should be, I was thinking of using the ubuntu LAMP or fbsd with apache and proftpd installed
[05:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Fat_Ferret: ubuntu server is perfectly alright
[05:31] <Vlet> Fat_Ferret: I have ubuntu server installed on a compaq proliant, and am very happy with it
[05:31] <Lunz> hendrixski,slipped of a keyboard u mean?i thought only tounge :))
[05:31] <Fat_Ferret> except i cant get ssh to install...
[05:31] <Manz> ok guys, I got xchat to work, for future reference, I was on 7.04 gnome, and I just did a distro-upgrade
[05:32] <minus> Fat_Ferret, sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:32] <minus> tried that?
[05:32] <Fat_Ferret> did that
[05:32] <minus> Fat_Ferret, what does it say?
[05:32] <L0GAN> erm... "Free Flash support with Gnash"
[05:32] <Lunz> Manz,u might want to try irssi
[05:32] <gcostello> !ubotu es>gcostello
[05:32] <gabriel__> i have i problem with ubuntu 7.10 and my notebook, because when i latch the notebook and open him, the mouse disappear
[05:32] <xbeanx> my /usr/include/ldap.h doesn't contain #define LDAP_MOD_INCREMENT ....what gives?
[05:32] <Manz> Lunz, irssi was actually how I connected the first time, but thanks
[05:32] <app_> aoupi: din link talar on gnome-terminal och X. Det r inte det problemet. Console is totally different.
[05:32] <hendrixski> minus, interesting, there may be some other stuff to do then, I totally don't remember doing anything else, but.. umm, good luck?
[05:32] <gabriel__> i have one problem with ubuntu 7.10 and my notebook, because when i latch the notebook and open him, the mouse disappear
[05:33] <minus> hendrixski, ^^
[05:33] <Pici> app_: #ubuntu-se
[05:33] <Pici> gabriel__: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy/7.10 support/discussion.
[05:33] <L0GAN> whats wrong with flash plugin?
[05:33] <aoupi> app_: oh, the virtual console
[05:33] <bullgard4> What do the device names  LID0, SLPB, AZAL, RP01, RP02, RP03, RP04, LANB and MODM in /proc/acpi/wakeup stand for?
[05:33] <gabriel__> Pici tkanks
[05:33] <Assassyn> hi
[05:33] <Fat_Ferret> invalid operation
[05:33] <Assassyn> anyone knows is there is any GUI for lvm2?
[05:33] <vo> hendrixski: thanks, i apt-get'd testdisk, which includes photorec. it's processing the disk now and it's already supposedly found a bunch of txt, gz, jpg, psd, pdf, and ai files
[05:34] <L0GAN> i hope the official flash plugin will be used because i'm a flash developer myself
[05:34] <Paddy_EIRE> minus: its open-ssh
[05:34] <Fat_Ferret> aha
[05:34] <hendrixski> vo... yeah it'll pick up everything.... you may want to turn off some of the filetypes or else you'll get inundated
[05:35] <hendrixski> vo that's my only beef with the program.. is it picks up everything... even stuff you deleted years ago which is MOSTLY over-written
[05:35] <L0GAN> what would be the problem with sticking to the official flash plugin?
[05:35] <hendrixski> L0GAN, write an angry letter to Adobe for how sucky their linux software is
[05:35] <w00tzilla> Off to lunch.  Is it ok if I idle in here or should I leave?
[05:35] <M_WS> I think I've succefully installed ndiswrapper. but now when i do "$sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/.driver/wifi/DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf" - It says the driver is already installed. It seems to me that it's not really the case, as when "$sudo iwlist scanning" - none of the interfaces are scanned. whats wrong here?
[05:35] <hendrixski> hope I helped at least someone
[05:35] <minus> Paddy_EIRE, ok..
[05:35] <hendrixski> bye
[05:36] <L0GAN> hendrixski : and gash is compatible and better? hard to believe ;)
[05:36] <crolle17> is it possible to open a new tab in console by command?
[05:36] <minus> Paddy_EIRE, Well.. I installed SSH with "apt-get install ssh"
[05:36] <Paddy_EIRE> M_WS: have you checked the ubuntu forums for your chipset
[05:36] <minus> atleast what I can recall
[05:36] <Paddy_EIRE> minus: cool
[05:36] <HaZiLla> ive just disabled GDM, now how do i re-enable it from shell
[05:36] <Fat_Ferret> m_ws had the same problem with the lappy i am on did you try rebooting the system?
[05:36] <M_WS> Paddy, yeah, and it says the network card only works with ndiswrapper
[05:36] <Assassyn> ellllooooo
[05:36] <M_WS> for wireless that is
[05:36] <darkangel_> which channel is for gusty
[05:36] <L0GAN> I tested flash on ubuntu and it seem to work perfect
[05:36] <MasterShrek> M_WS, why dont you just use the kernel module for your broadcom chip?
[05:37] <L0GAN> (for my content anyway)
[05:37] <genii> HaZiLla: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:37] <Assassyn> anyone using lvm2?
[05:37] <darkangel_> i need help installing 7.10 beta
[05:37] <MasterShrek> M_WS, all you need is to put the firmware in /lib/firmware, i can get u a link for a tarball of the firmware
[05:37] <minus> Paddy_EIRE, Maybe its because I use Gutsy Gibbon
[05:37] <Pici> darkangel_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy/7.10 support/discussion.
[05:37] <Pici> !gutsy
[05:37] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[05:37] <nanonyme> heh, still two days :)
[05:37] <sixdraw> hi guys how do i install .src.tgz files?
[05:38] <MasterShrek> sixdraw, you need to extract it and compile it, what is it?
[05:38] <Paddy_EIRE> sixdraw: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[05:38] <sixdraw> efax new version
[05:38] <minus> Pici, Shut the fuck up! You are just flooding the channel with shit when you say that all the fucking time!
[05:38] <crolle17> is it possible to open a new tab in console by command?
[05:38] <M_WS> MasterShrek - I'm not sure if I understand what you mean, I just installed Ubuntu. but would that mean that the original driver is being used without wrapper. right now Ive spent most of the day trying to do it like they say here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[05:38] <MasterShrek> !ohmy | minus
[05:38] <ubotu> minus: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:38] <sixdraw> how do i start the compile?
[05:38] <Paddy_EIRE> minus: watch the lingo.. and he is hardly flooding the channel
[05:39] <MasterShrek> M_WS, what kind of card is it? 4306, 4311, 4318?
[05:39] <minus> MasterShrek, sorry.. But Im so friggin irritated on Pici
[05:39] <Assassyn> i need help with lvm2 on ubuntu
[05:39] <M_WS> MasterShrek: 1390
[05:39] <Lunz> wahhh...what is that all about?
[05:39] <MasterShrek> minus, why? gutsy isnt supposed to be talked about in here anyway, thats what #ubuntu+1 is for
[05:39] <nanonyme> hmm, is checkinstall good?
[05:39] <wip> can i download ubuntu 7.10 today, will it be the same as the release in two days?
[05:39] <linux4me> how do I compile software?
[05:40] <MasterShrek> M_WS, same as i have, its actualyl a broadcom 4311, i can get you a link for the firmware, while im doing that, make sure you unload ndiswrapper
[05:40] <Paddy_EIRE> minus: Pici is one of the most helpful members of the ubuntu community and he is a volunteer.. so calm down
[05:40] <nanonyme> wip, might be, might not
[05:40] <nanonyme> it might have last-minute changes
[05:40] <minus> MasterShrek, well.. I can still support others with other ubuntuversions. Cause the commands are almost 100% the same..
[05:40] <wip> nanonyme: will wait then...
[05:40] <Lunz> calm-down everybody...
[05:40] <L0GAN> it will be possible to download the Flash plugin automatically instead of gnash, right?
[05:40] <M_WS> Thanks mastershrek - its a dell laptop by the way
[05:40] <wip> linux4me: do you have the source?
[05:40] <Jeriath> how would i change my computers name on the network?
[05:40] <Lunz> lets have a tequila...
[05:40] <wip> linux4me: if yes, with a terminal cd to it
[05:41] <wip> linux4me: autoconf or configure
[05:41] <MasterShrek> nanonyme, yea, use checkinstall
[05:41] <wip> linux4me: make & make install
[05:41] <linux4me> wip - yeah, i'm trying to install ultra monkey on ubuntu fiesty but it doesn't have a binary package for it
[05:41] <M_WS> MasterShrek, how do I unload ndiswrapper from the terminal?
[05:41] <minus> Paddy_EIRE, Well the latest hour he has probably posted 20 "Don't speak about Gutsy in here. ITS TABOO!
[05:41] <MasterShrek> M_WS, sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[05:41] <Paddy_EIRE> minus: so.. its not for your benefit
[05:41] <MTecknology> minus, it's not taboo... it doesn't belong here
[05:42] <MasterShrek> M_WS, http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv
[05:42] <wip> linux4me: ./configure --help (to turn off some feature or on)
[05:42] <M_WS> ok thats done now
[05:42] <Paddy_EIRE> minus: there is more new users all the time and they also need this information
[05:42] <linux4me> wip - tks
[05:42] <wip> linux4me: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local to install the software in local or /opt if you want
[05:43] <nanonyme> mastershrek, does it work for non-root installation?
[05:43] <MasterShrek> ok M_WS grab that file, open a terminal and cd to the directory where u downloaded it, run: tar -xjvf bcm4311_firmware.tar.bz2
[05:43] <genii> linux4me: I see on the ultramonkey website the source comes in redhat or debian based. Hopefully you got the debian based
[05:43] <nanonyme> mastershrek, that is, if i install stuff in contrib on our system, can i still use packages?
[05:43] <MasterShrek> nanonyme, i think so, it will just make a debian package i believe, i cant remember tho its been awhile since i compiled anything from source
[05:43] <Manz> when i do 'sudo apt-get install wine' it sits at 0% [Waiting for headers]  for like 10 minutes
[05:43] <M_WS> Mastershrek, thanks for all your help, gonna try it now on that machine.
[05:43] <Manz> oh nvm, its working now
[05:44] <Flats> Hello when trying to upgrade to 7.10 I get this message.  Anything I can do to fix this?  Failed to fetch http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[05:44] <Flats> Failed to fetch http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main-all/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[05:44] <WaltzingAlong> because it waiting for headers
[05:44] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | Flats
[05:44] <ubotu> Flats: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[05:44] <gnomefreak> Flats: join #ubuntu+1
[05:44] <Basem> hi all
[05:44] <Flats> K
[05:44] <Flats> thanks
[05:44] <Basem> need some help
[05:44] <MasterShrek> Flats, if you look at that its a feisty repo, if you are upgrading to gutsy, you cant have a feisty repository
[05:44] <Vlet> Why was asking about cronjobs not working?
[05:44] <MasterShrek> ask away Basem
[05:45] <Basem> i'm useing live ubuntu dvd
[05:45] <alvaro> hola
[05:45] <Vlet> Err, not "Why", but WHO was asking about crontab :)
[05:45] <Basem> and when i try to install application
[05:45] <Basem> it look for it online and download it
[05:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: why is that a problem
[05:46] <HaZiLla> ive just disabled GDM, now how do i re-enable it from shell so it boots with gnome instead
[05:46] <alvaro> im speack spanish S:
[05:46] <Vlet> HaZiLla: how did you go about disabling it?
[05:46] <Basem> can we tlak in privte
[05:46] <Basem> i cant focus in here
[05:46] <Paddy_EIRE> HaZiLla: have you tried the forums
[05:46] <MasterCheese> !es
[05:46] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: its easy to focus
[05:47] <Basem> i have ubuntu dvd
[05:47] <HaZiLla> Vlet from services
[05:47] <linux4me> genii - i grabbed this,http://www.ultramonkey.org/download/3/debian.sarge/heartbeat/heartbeat_1.2.3.cvs.20050927.orig.tar.gz
[05:47] <HaZiLla> in the gui
[05:47] <Jeriath> anyone .....how do i change my computers name on the network?
[05:47] <Basem> which have all the program
[05:47] <Basem> so why ubuntu look for the program online
[05:47] <M_WS> MasterShrek, Ive extracted all in a folder
[05:47] <Basem> why dosnt it look for it on the dvd
[05:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: install it and add the dvd as a repo
[05:47] <Vlet> Basem: problem with talking in private is that the rest of us can't see your queries... the person who started talking to you might not know the answer to your question; he/she is just helping to get things moving for you
[05:47] <MasterShrek> M_WS, now move all those files to /lib/firmware
[05:48] <genii> linux4me: Yeah that looks OK. Paths etc in make should not need tweaking
[05:48] <Basem> ok
[05:48] <Basem> is just alot of talk in here
[05:48] <MasterShrek> M_WS, you need to use sudo, so like: sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware
[05:48] <Basem> and i cant focus reading all
[05:48] <Vlet> HaZiLla: Ahh, I think the easiest way to get it back is to log in via the terminal, and type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:48] <Basem> to see whiche part is mine
[05:48] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | Basem
[05:48] <ubotu> Basem: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:48] <Vlet> HaZiLla: then go back and turn it on the way your turned it off
[05:48] <Basem> ok
[05:48] <simen> Can someone assist me with a little problem, please? I can't hear any sound at all in Ubuntu. This is my sound card: "82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller". My computer acts as if the volume was muted. I  do not recieve any error messages when I play sound files.
[05:49] <Basem> first of all dosnt the dvd have all the program on it?
[05:49] <WaltzingAlong> simen: aplay -l
[05:49] <BlackWand> Stupid question. Whats the default root password for Ubuntu 7.x ?
[05:49] <MasterShrek> !root
[05:49] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:49] <HaZiLla> thanks
[05:49] <Paddy_EIRE> !sound | simen
[05:49] <ubotu> simen: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:49] <M_WS> MasterShrek, done that now too, theyre in lib/firmware/ now
[05:49] <abcde_> Beagle isn't indexing some of my drives.  I did some research, and I read that it is because one is FAT32, and I'd assume since the other isn't indexing because it's NTFS.  Does anyone know how I can get these drives indexed?  Or is there an alternative indexer that will?
[05:49] <BlackWand> Understood
[05:50] <MasterShrek> M_WS, now do this: sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[05:50] <WaltzingAlong> !info beagle
[05:50] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.16.3-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 883 kB, installed size 3892 kB
[05:50] <cypherdelic> Thanks to Developers of Asterisk, Cedega, Compiz-Fusion, FreePBX, Gentoo, Trixbox, Ubuntu, VirtualBox and all the great stuff i've not mentioned. You really make my day. :)
[05:50] <Basem> hello?
[05:50] <WaltzingAlong> olleh
[05:50] <Vlet> Basem: I don't think it has everything - just the 'main' group of applications
[05:50] <enjahova> i'm having a problem where connecting to anything takes about 5 seconds of silence, then a great connection
[05:50] <M_WS> MasterShrek - ok done, it doesn't give a message
[05:50] <Basem> but it's dvd it's 3.976 GB
[05:50] <enjahova> doesn't matter if its ssh to server in network, or opening webpage to google
[05:50] <MasterShrek> M_WS, it shouldnt, now try scanning
[05:50] <enjahova> how can i diagnose this?
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: it does not have everything
[05:51] <kitche> Basem: it doesn't have all software in it but has just a few extra things
[05:51] <Basem> ok
[05:51] <Basem> any way
[05:51] <Basem> i want to run exe game
[05:51] <MasterShrek> Basem, edit the file: /etc/apt/sources.list     and put a # in front of every line except the one that has cdrom on it
[05:51] <WaltzingAlong> !wine | Basem
[05:51] <ubotu> Basem: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[05:51] <MasterShrek> then it wont go online Basem, but you probably kinda want it to
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: I already told you.. install ubuntu then add the dvd as a repository
[05:51] <Vlet> Basem: I then perhaps it is 'main' and 'universe', but not 'multiverse'
[05:51] <M_WS> MasterShrek, I should buy you a crate of beer. That did the trick ! Thanks very much!
[05:52] <linux4me> genii - i tried ./configure and i have a configure error: the following components noted earlier are missing: glib-devel, libnet-devel, Please supply them and try again
[05:52] <Basem> guys
[05:52] <Basem> i cant focus with all of you
[05:52] <Basem> plz only one be talking to me
[05:52] <MasterShrek> M_WS, and its much better than using ndiswrapper, ndiswrapper is a crappy hack lol, you are using straight linux kernel now :)
[05:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: If you can not read then its not our problem
[05:52] <L0GAN> PS has ubuntu a DVD player to watch DVD's ?
[05:52] <Vlet> Basem: that's not the way this place works though
[05:52] <Paddy_EIRE> !dvd | L0GAN
[05:52] <ubotu> L0GAN: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:52] <Basem> i need only one talk to me
[05:53] <Basem> not all
[05:53] <kitche> Basem: only is onyl talking to you
[05:53] <Basem> not the game in windows run with deamon tool
[05:53] <L0GAN> PS backing up DVD's is not allowed
[05:53] <Basem> how can i solve this problem in ubuntue
[05:53] <M_WS> MasterShrek, That's one great solution, i didnt find that anywhere on the internet.
[05:53] <Lunz> basem,read faster
[05:53] <L0GAN> (thats why we get those warnings before playing )
[05:53] <WaltzingAlong> Basem: typically replies to you have your name at the front
[05:53] <Paddy_EIRE> L0GAN: it is allowed
[05:54] <cypherdelic> and VDR and WINE ;)
[05:54] <Lunz> basem,just scroll back..
[05:54] <Paddy_EIRE> L0GAN: you have the right to backup always!
[05:54] <L0GAN> Paddy_EIRE : show me what DVD allows copying?
[05:54] <Vlet> Basem: Just curious, if you're running on the live dvd, then I would assume you have windows installed... so why not run the windows game in windows if you haven't actually installed ubuntu?
[05:54] <MasterShrek> M_WS, the kernel driver is still said to be somewhat unstable, but i dont have problems with it, ive helped alot of people in this room set it up this way, and not really have any issues
[05:54] <gnomefreak> L0GAN: DEPENDS ON THE COUNTRY
[05:54] <gnomefreak> damn'
[05:54] <gnomefreak> sorrry for caps
[05:55] <enjahova> so does anyone have an idea why all my connections (using ssh, firefox, ping...) wait for 5 seconds before going forward, then work fine? its like 5 second latency that just started happening yesterday
[05:55] <Paddy_EIRE> L0GAN: copying and backing up are 2 completely different things
[05:55] <WaltzingAlong> enjahova: dns?
[05:55] <gnomefreak> USA the dvds are against the law to copy
[05:55] <L0GAN> gnomefreak : I get pages and pages with warnings NO COPY ALLOWED,
[05:55] <L0GAN> whats the difference between a copy and a 'back up'
[05:55] <kahrytan> !lang | gnomefreak
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lang - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <gnomefreak> L0GAN: depends on the laws in the courty you are in
[05:55] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:55] <kahrytan> you get the point :)
[05:55] <enjahova> WaltzingAlong, how could i check that, another computer on the same network has no such problem though
[05:55] <gnomefreak> L0GAN: you can rip it to harddrive as backup :)
[05:56] <WaltzingAlong> enjahova: both behind the same router/gateway?
[05:56] <gnomefreak> kahrytan: yep
[05:56] <enjahova> WaltzingAlong, yep, same ubuntu setup too
[05:56] <L0GAN> i buy my DVD's and never had to back up one of them
[05:56] <M_WS> MasterShrek, before i start doing all kinds of uneccesary things. I read that it is possible to install photoshop by just copying a windows install plus registry entry (converted to charset). What's true about this?
[05:56] <enjahova> WaltzingAlong, is there a way i could check if its dns?
[05:56] <gnomefreak> L0GAN: this topic should really be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:56] <Basem> guys plz
[05:56] <Paddy_EIRE> L0GAN: I buy mine but I always back them up
[05:56] <Basem> one talk to me in privte
[05:56] <WaltzingAlong> enjahova: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[05:56] <Paddy_EIRE> !offtopic | L0GAN
[05:56] <ubotu> L0GAN: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:57] <WaltzingAlong> !patience | Basem
[05:57] <ubotu> Basem: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:57] <Basem> i'm patience
[05:57] <MasterShrek> M_WS, no idea, ive never really used photoshop, and especially not under linux, but i would say wine shold be ale to do it
[05:57] <moope1> anyone got any idea why my shift key is not working no more/
[05:57] <Basem> but if some one really want to help me then plz talk to me in privte
[05:57] <Vlet> moope1: soda on the keyboard? ;)
[05:57] <tommygj> hmm, which distro is most
[05:57] <tommygj> -.-
[05:57] <MasterShrek> most what?
[05:57] <moope1> Vlet hur hur
[05:57] <tommygj> hehe sec ;P
[05:57] <kahrytan> WaltzingAlong,  i hope legally.
[05:57] <L0GAN> Paddy_EIRE : then you dont have many :P.  Well I also see the player only allows unencrypted DVD's. Would need to download additional libs it seems
[05:58] <L0GAN> any commercial DVD players available?
[05:58] <Paddy_EIRE> L0GAN: I have ALOT
[05:58] <Paddy_EIRE> ;)
[05:58] <moope1> ah crap can someone type puls for me/
[05:58] <enjahova> WaltzingAlong, apparently we do have slightly different nameservers, should i change mine to reflect his?
[05:58] <moope1> plus
[05:58] <moope1> is in =
[05:58] <WaltzingAlong> kahrytan: just to show a designer it could work. yes i had a legit copy to an earlier version. for bitmap editing with layers and such i use something else
[05:58] <moope1> cos my shift key dont work1
[05:58] <Paddy_EIRE> L0GAN: harddrives are cheap fortunately
[05:58] <enjahova> WaltzingAlong, and once i change it, do i need to restart networking (and how)
[05:58] <moope1> and i want to goto ubuntu plus 1
[05:59] <kahrytan> L0GAN, PowerDVD  is/was Linux
[05:59] <MasterShrek> M_WS, you may want to uninstall ndiswrapper though, i dont know if it will cause issues on a reboot...
[05:59] <Vlet> moope1: has this problem been around for a while, or did it just start? Have you tried restarting?
[05:59] <Lunz> logan,i am sure u get a different meaning in dictionary..:)
[05:59] <tommygj> which distro is the best of openSuse and Ubuntu to get the most out of the hardware in my laptop? drivers and stuff
[05:59] <linux4me> apparently I'm missing glib-devel and libnet-devel, how do I install this on feisty?
[05:59] <L0GAN> kahrytan : I use power dvd atm
[05:59] <Manz> anyone else been having problems lately connecting to the wine package server? (wine.budgetdedicated.com:80)
[05:59] <WaltzingAlong> enjahova: that should be filled out from the dhcp request. (my guess) your router, gateway is giving you a dns address to itself but its implementation is poor, so it has errors filling requests
[05:59] <moope1> Vlet; i restarted last time but its come back
[06:00] <WaltzingAlong> enjahova: so solutions would be to set the name servers manually to those set by your isp (not by your router/gateway)
[06:01] <enjahova> WaltzingAlong, i changed mine to use his, i'm at an office and i think they must have switched one of the nameservers or something. it works great now, Thanks!
[06:01] <Paddy_EIRE> L0GAN: http://www.news.com/New-copy-proof-DVDs-on-the-way/5208-1026_3-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=4805&messageID=30510&start=0
[06:01] <WaltzingAlong> enjahova: wonderful!
[06:03] <kerbau> hello
[06:03] <cypherdelic> BillyG@BilliesHomeframe$ sudo killall linux && sudo modprobe vista && ./vista-take-over-world
[06:03] <kerbau> how to install vsftp server
[06:03] <cypherdelic> segmentation fault
[06:03] <M_WS> where can I find out what Charset ubuntu is using?
[06:03] <kevsthabest> hey guys.. i cant seem to get compiz working in gusty.. nvidia drivers installed but i keep getting white screen..
[06:04] <kerbau> how to install vsftp server
[06:04] <mojo69_> server irc.DaIRC.net
[06:04] <riotkittie> i am so pathetic.  i am sitting at my desktop. and sshing into it from my laptop.  :(
[06:04] <kitche> kevsthabest: it seems to be a bug it's all over the compiz-fusion forums
[06:05] <kevsthabest> do you beilive its been fixed in the svn?
[06:05] <kevsthabest> actually i checked the forums.. didnt see anything that would help me..:S
[06:06] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | kevsthabest
[06:06] <ubotu> kevsthabest: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[06:06] <bourne> irc.gr
[06:06] <kerbau> how to install vsftp server
[06:06] <boris__> hi every1
[06:06] <kerbau> how to install vsftp server
[06:06] <ToToRojo> ubuntu rulz
[06:06] <dirk_> hallo
[06:06] <x_> hello everyone
[06:06] <kerbau> how to install vsftp server
[06:06] <jacek2jacek> just testing
[06:06] <kerbau> how to install vsftp server
[06:07] <WaltzingAlong> !repeat
[06:07] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:07] <M_WS> where can I find out what Charset ubuntu is using?
[06:07] <boris__> im downloading quake wars and i wonder whether is will run on open source ati RV350 driver ? if it wont, im gonna install fglrx, but im not sure whether it will reconfigure my slightly modified xorg, i use AIGLX for compiz fusion
[06:07] <boris__> it will*
[06:07] <WaltzingAlong> try it out
[06:07] <x_> i have Creative Audiogy ZS Plotonium Pro , what's the command line in terminal for MIXERS ?!
[06:07] <kerbau> help
[06:07] <kerbau> how to install vsftp server
[06:07] <Paddy_EIRE> boris__: no you need fglrx
[06:07] <boris__> but
[06:07] <Lunz> kerbau?
[06:08] <kerbau> yeah
[06:08] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | kerbau
[06:08] <ubotu> kerbau: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:08] <Lunz> kerbau=lembu
[06:08] <boris__> will instaler reconfigure my xorg before installing fglrx ?
[06:08] <WaltzingAlong> kerbau: sudo aptitude install vsftpd
[06:09] <kerbau> thanks waltz
[06:09] <x_> what's command line in terminal for creative mixer ?!
[06:09] <General_L> Anyone upgraded to 7.10 and uses an mobilephone (in this case sony ericsson k800i) as usb 3g modem with cabel? it worked fine in 7.04 but now it failes
[06:09] <Lunz> kerbau,jangan repeat
[06:09] <WaltzingAlong> x_: alsamixer
[06:09] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | General_L
[06:09] <ubotu> General_L: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[06:09] <x_> not alsamixer .. i need creative audiogy 2 zs pltnum pro mixer
[06:10] <cypherdelic> DonBush@Whiteframe$ sudo falseflag --target $HOME --match 911 && sudo mount /dev/africom && sudo killall iran && dd if=/dev/america of=/dev/world && sudo killall rebels
[06:10] <kerbau> i have download vsftp.tz but i do not how to install
[06:10] <Paddy_EIRE> x_: no you use alsamixer
[06:10] <Basem> guys
[06:10] <kerbau> and configure
[06:10] <Basem> i need some one to help me
[06:10] <kerbau> plase
[06:10] <kerbau> please
[06:10] <WaltzingAlong> kerbau: ask google
[06:10] <Basem> i'm new so i need some one who go step by step with me
[06:10] <cypherdelic> segmentation fault
[06:10] <Basem> if any one ready then let me know plz
[06:10] <benzs_s> help with what ?
[06:10] <x_> Paddy_EIRE  honey i don't use alsamixer
[06:10] <Lunz> !vsftp
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vsftp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: I have already answered your question earlier but you just ignored it so ...
[06:11] <WaltzingAlong> !info vsftpd
[06:11] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.5-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 111 kB, installed size 408 kB
[06:11] <Lunz> basem,scroll back
[06:11] <genii> kerbau: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91887.html
[06:11] <kerbau> i already ask google..but no find any answer
[06:11] <boris__> <Paddy_EIRE do you know when ati is going to release a driver that works with 3d effects ?
[06:11] <kerbau> thanks genii
[06:11] <Basem> paddy can u answer me in privte?
[06:11] <Paddy_EIRE> boris__: they already have
[06:12] <kane77> the biggest showstopper for me is absence of suspend/hibernate in gutsy... I mean it still stays the only OS on my laptop but if it would suspend it would make my life much more complete :)
[06:12] <genii> kerbau: you're welcome
[06:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: I use the main channel so everyone can see what is going on
[06:12] <WaltzingAlong> !info suspend2
[06:12] <ubotu> Package suspend2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:12] <Basem> then thx for ur help
[06:12] <z0rz> How can I automatically run a couple root commands on boot easily?
[06:12] <Basem> and enjoy ur main channel
[06:12] <boris__> Paddy_EIRE supported driver that supports compiz fusion and is not in beta ?
[06:12] <kane77> z0rz, put them in rc.local
[06:13] <Paddy_EIRE> boris__: like anyone else you will have to use fglrx.. I have ati with fglrx driver which runs compiz-fusion and games
[06:13] <z0rz> /etc/rc.local or /etc/init.d/rc.local ?
[06:13] <boris__> omg
[06:13] <Xargo> hi ho :) i just installed and used ubuntu/linux for the first time, and i'm still having a few problems
[06:13] <genii> z0rz: first one
[06:14] <z0rz> Thanks
[06:14] <boris__> Paddy_EIRE what is the command to reconfigure xorg ?
[06:14] <Xargo> one problem is that my wireless keyboard doesn't get interpreted correctly when at the login screen, anyone else has that?
[06:14] <Paddy_EIRE> boris__: you will have to use xgl rather than aiglx though
[06:14] <foxiness> !hi | Xargo
[06:14] <ubotu> Xargo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:14] <Xargo> thanks
[06:14] <kane77> z0rz, /etc/rc.local
[06:14] <WaltzingAlong> !hello
[06:14] <Innomen> how can i disable the touch mouse on my laptop via ubuntu? (there is no way to do it via hardware or bios)
[06:15] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: gsynaptics
[06:15] <WaltzingAlong> Innomen: touch mouse? touchpad?
[06:15] <Innomen> yea
[06:15] <boris__> Paddy_EIRE that is the problem, xgl doesnt support games on top of itself
[06:15] <Xargo> the keyboard works with everything else, even while in bios setup; but at the login screen of ubuntu it's suddenly interpreted totally different; when i press certain keys my mouse cursor jumps around
[06:15] <boris__> plus xgl works weird on my card
[06:15] <Innomen> the stupid laptop thing that keeps making me mess up while typing :P
[06:15] <boris__> slow like hell
[06:15] <WaltzingAlong> !info aptitude search synaptics
[06:15] <WaltzingAlong> Innomen:  aptitude search synaptics
[06:15] <ubotu> aptitude: terminal-based apt frontend. In component main, is important. Version 0.4.4-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1428 kB, installed size 8556 kB
[06:16] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[06:16] <boris__> what is the command to reconfigure xorg.conf ?
[06:16] <boris__> sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver ?
[06:16] <Innomen> reading, thanks guys
[06:16] <Lunz> sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <riotkittie> boris__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <erUSUL> boris__: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[06:16] <Paddy_EIRE> boris__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <boris__> whats -phigh for ?
[06:16] <Paddy_EIRE> actually use the -phigh method
[06:17] <riotkittie> yeah. definitely. -phigh. <hides>
[06:17] <boris__> (i use gutsy but i suppose it works on it as well ?
[06:17] <Basem> guys
[06:17] <M_WS> Hi. Anybodoy know where can I find out what Charset ubuntu is using?
[06:17] <Basem> any one can go with me step by step?
[06:17] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | Basem
[06:17] <ubotu> Basem: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:19] <antzen__> Hear and behold the ugliness of Winblows.. Explorer copy from DVD to disk fails while DOS "copy" succeeds.. ;-)
[06:19] <Innomen> *sigh*
[06:19] <Lar> Hi. I'm new here. Anyone around to help me with Ubuntu screen resolution in MS Virtual Machine?
[06:20] <IdleOne> Lar: you are running ubuntu in a VM from windows?
[06:20] <Lar> Yup.
[06:20] <Innomen> of course it wouldn't be even remotely straight forward. ubuntu rocks but its got a LONG way to go. While attempting to "Enable SHMConfig" I get the error.
[06:20] <kerbau> abody know where vsftp gui
[06:20] <Innomen> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:20] <Lar> I can install Ubuntu
[06:20] <Innomen> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:20] <Lar> BUT
[06:20] <Lar> the screen resolution craps out on me after it's installed.
[06:20] <IdleOne> !fixres | lar
[06:20] <ubotu> lar: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:21] <WaltzingAlong> Innomen: need to add that part to the synaptics part in xorg.conf
[06:21] <Lar> Says it's too big, and I can see huge letters...
[06:21] <M_WS> Does anyone know where can I find out what Charset ubuntu is using ?
[06:21] <tatters> I got an old ipaq 700mhz 128mb ram will ubuntu server run on that
[06:21] <IdleOne> tatters: yup
[06:21] <ZeroA4> tatters, yes
[06:21] <Innomen> WaltzingAlong: i got the errror as soon as i opened the file trying to add said line to config
[06:21] <kerbau> how configure vsftp using GUI
[06:21] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: install ubuntu from the dvd that you have then read on how to add the dvd as a repository... very simple to do
[06:21] <kst-> I know a great trick how to free up disk space from your ubuntu install... delete the 900MB log created by lirc daemon! :D
[06:22] <tatters> k,thnx is gutsy server any more resource hungry than older versions ?
[06:22] <Lar> ubotu, I'm stupid. If I can't see to log into Ubuntu, how do I get a console window?
[06:22] <Paddy_EIRE> !gutsy | tatters
[06:22] <ubotu> tatters: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[06:22] <Vlet> Lar: ubotu is a robot :)
[06:22] <kst-> Lar ctrl-alt-f1 to go to console, ctrl-alt-f7 to go back to GUI
[06:22] <Vlet> Lar: hit ctrl-alt-f1
[06:22] <Lar> i c.
[06:22] <kerbau> how configure vsftp using GUI
[06:23] <Lar> I'll give it a shot. Thanx
[06:23] <IdleOne> Lar: ctrl+alt+F1 ctrl+alt+F7 to come back to gui
[06:23] <Lar> even if gui is messed up cos of screen resolution...
[06:23] <tatters> I been using gutsy since tribe 3 but only desktop version been eagerly awaiting the 18th
[06:24] <IdleOne> Lar: get to console and run sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:24] <nucco> anyone familiar with dhcp here? I'm trying to configure a dhcp server so that each time a client requests an IP address, it's given the next available one, regardless of the status of its current lease
[06:24] <M_WS> where can I find out what Charset ubuntu is using ?
[06:24] <Lar> I'll check out the stuff you've told me, plus the page on screen resolution. I'll be back...
[06:24] <Lar> thanks a lot.
[06:24] <Paddy_EIRE> M_WS: google
[06:24] <IdleOne> np
[06:25] <Manz> I am trying to install wine, when i type "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -" it just has a blinkin box
[06:25] <ipx__> M_WS: UTF-8
[06:25] <Innomen> This is absurd. is there no way to disable a device without editing a config file?
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[06:25] <M_WS> ipx_ thanks
[06:25] <shawnrgr> I've attempted to edit the fstab to mount my second hd at boot but its not auto mounting. not getting any errors that I can see. I've done this before but i just installed gusty, shouldn't matter but its not working. can anyone help me out?
[06:25] <WaltzingAlong> Innomen: need to add that section. then restart x
[06:25] <kerbau> how configure vsftp using GUI
[06:25] <kst-> Manz why not install wine from the repository?
[06:25] <nucco> M_WS: you can usually chose what charset you save into (in for instance, gedit) if that's what you are looking for.
[06:25] <Innomen> WaltzingAlong: so no, there isn't.
[06:26] <riotkittie> arent you the guy who was waxing and waning poetic about his desire to tinker? editting config files = tinkering. so tinker :P
[06:26] <Vlet> riotkittie: heh
[06:26] <WaltzingAlong> Innomen: the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf          section referring to driver synaptics
[06:26] <Innomen> riotkittie: uhh disabling a build in device is not what i meant
[06:26] <WaltzingAlong> !synaptics | Innomen
[06:26] <ubotu> Innomen: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[06:26] <Innomen> WaltzingAlong: yea read that, scroll up to the error i got
[06:27] <Vlet> Innomen: Is there anything really that wrong with editing a config file?
[06:27] <kst-> Vlet it is not exactly user-friendly
[06:27] <IdleOne> kerbau: there is no vstfp package did you compile it yourself? if so check the site you got it from to see if there is a GUI you can install for it
[06:27] <Innomen> vlet: "linux for people" no, but itsd a little off goal.
[06:27] <nucco> ok, no help on dhcp here...
[06:27] <IdleOne> !ftp | kerbau
[06:27] <ubotu> kerbau: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[06:27] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: I sent you a link with exact instructions... yet now you are trolling
[06:27] <shawnrgr> /dev/sdb1	/var/local/storage	ext3	user,noauto	0	2   -  this is right, isn't it?
[06:27] <riotkittie> argh.
[06:27] <Vlet> kst-, Innomen: agreed, but for now, it's nothing worth getting upset about
[06:27] <Manz> kst-, I'm just wondering why it doesnt work properly, for all of my friends, it would just ask for password, and that put that on the trusted list, with mine it just sits there blinking
[06:28] <M_WS> nucco.. i need to recode a windows registry key to the proper ubuntu charset. that's why i needed to know that
[06:28] <patou> irc.iiens.net
[06:28] <Innomen> vlet: it is when you kids get all insulting to me personally when i complain about a tool.
[06:28] <Paddy_EIRE> kst-: Innomen read this http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[06:28] <M_WS> nucco: something like $ recode ucs-2..ascii adobe.reg
[06:28] <Innomen> vlet: do you not agree trhat a device manager is a somewhat basic part of an OS?
[06:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: no need in ubuntu
[06:29] <Innomen> Paddy_EIRE: funny, i fine a reath urgent need to disable this device
[06:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: we dont want fisherprice windows standards
[06:29] <Innomen> find*
[06:29] <Vlet> Innomen: disabling a device is not something that comes up very often for the average user
[06:29] <kerbau> i want install ftp server...dont know to configure using command
[06:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: easy
[06:29] <riotkittie> i cant speak for anybody else but i myself am not a kid, and i've yet to see anybody get personally insulting towards you
[06:29] <kitche> !info vsftpd | IdleOne kerbau
[06:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: unless you cant READ
[06:29] <ubotu> idleone kerbau: vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.5-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 111 kB, installed size 408 kB
[06:29] <Vlet> Innomen: What kids are insulting you? I'm 28, and TALKING to you.
[06:29] <IdleOne> kitche: I asked ubotu in msg and it didnt know
[06:30] <kst-> Paddy_EIRE you might wanna read this: http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200710/ij_10_10_07a.html
[06:30] <Innomen> Paddy_EIRE: strawman, i never said ubuntu needs to be like windows, i said there needs ot be a way to graphically manage devices, if you accept command line as sufficent for basic tasks, why have a desktop or even write ubuntu in the first place?
[06:30] <IdleOne> kitche: oh vsftpD :)
[06:30] <kitche> IdleOne: :P
[06:30] <IdleOne> \ty kitche
[06:30] <kerbau> i want install ftp server...dont know to configure using command
[06:30] <kst-> IdleOne ubotu is a bot :) not a human being
[06:30] <Innomen> Vlet: you laughed at riotkittie's little stab, good enough for me
[06:30] <IdleOne> kst: yeah I know
[06:30] <Manz> anyone know why the command "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -" idles with a blinking cursor, rather then taking me back to prompt?
[06:30] <IdleOne> !botsnack
[06:30] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:30] <riotkittie> that wasnt a stab. <sigh>
[06:31] <Paddy_EIRE> kst-: linux/ubuntu is not trying to be nor will it ever try to be windows... why would we want inferiour standards.. if you can not deal with it stop complaining and go back to windows
[06:31] <shawnrgr> Anyone good with fstab? i need help mounting my second drive at boot.
[06:31] <kylemory> anybody familiar with the differences in os x networking and ubuntu?
[06:32] <Innomen> so, the straight answer is, no ubuntu has nothing that allows a user to disable devices graphically, because wanting that makes me a baby. (fisher price) True or false.
[06:32] <Vlet> Innomen: no, and calm down
[06:32] <nucco> M_WS: is that perl? don't think I can help you out there...
[06:32] <Paddy_EIRE> oh and kst- instead of just reading the title read the actual content its a great article which will set you straight http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[06:32] <riotkittie> nobody said it made you a baby. please, stop going to great lengths to feel victimized.
[06:32] <kst-> Paddy_EIRE you might want to come off your high horse and think about what you're saying... some people don't enjoy spending time with editing configs and using terminal windows, they want the trivial jobs to get done as easily as possible... not everyone cba to h4x0r
[06:32] <Innomen> vlet: oky
[06:32] <IdleOne> Innomen: no all it means is that nobody has made a GUI for it. perhaps you could :)
[06:32] <kerbau> i want install ftp server...dont know to configure using command
[06:32] <kerbau> how configure vsftp using GUI
[06:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: stop being and idiot
[06:32] <kst-> Paddy_EIRE I read both parts this very morning, thank you.
[06:33] <Innomen> riotkittie: Paddy_EIRE: Innomen: we dont want fisherprice windows standards
[06:33] <Paddy_EIRE> err
[06:33] <riotkittie> but editing a mere config is not the end of the world. and if, as you said, you want to tinker, you _are_ going to have to be willing to get your hands dirty
[06:33] <Paddy_EIRE> exactly.. grow a brain Innomen
[06:33] <IdleOne> !offtopic
[06:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:33] <IdleOne> Paddy_EIRE: chill please
[06:33] <shawnrgr> /dev/sdb1	/var/local/storage	ext3	user,noauto	0	2   -  this is right, isn't it? i can't get this drive to auto mount at boot. anyone help me out please?
[06:33] <kylemory> when i connect to my university's network with my mac, i can do whatever i want (web, torrent, irc...) .. but on ubuntu, setup the same way (i think) i cant do anything.. all the windows machines on campus go through a proxy that blocks everything.. but this doesnt effect my ibook for some reason....
[06:33] <kylemory> any ideas?
[06:33] <Innomen> riotkittie: disabling a device is no more "tinkering" than creating a folder, its a basic part of an OS
[06:33] <thebigham> I wanna do a fresh install for Gutsy, but i do not how to do that. Can anyone help me with that??
[06:33] <kerbau> anyone please...
[06:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: says who
[06:34] <IdleOne> !patience | kerbau
[06:34] <Vlet> kerbau: I don't think there is a gui for it
[06:34] <Jaymac> thebigham, see #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support :)
[06:34] <frank_> hi thebigham
[06:34] <Vlet> kerbau: Did some searching, and it appears one does not exist
[06:34] <kitche> kerbau: edit it's config file /etc/vsftpd.conf ubuntu might put it someplace else though either with gedit or another gui text editor
[06:34] <ubotu> kerbau: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:34] <kerbau> how about using webmin
[06:34] <Innomen> vlet: riotkittie: -=Paddy_EIRE: exactly.. grow a brain Innomen=- Who's pretending to be a victim? Are not words like idiot, and phrases like "grow a brain" personally insulting?
[06:34] <frank_> the same way that you have install 7.04
[06:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: stop trolling or take this to the offtopic channel please
[06:35] <kerbau> can vsftp integreted with webmin
[06:35] <Innomen> Paddy_EIRE: you need to learn to defend a point without using insults.
[06:35] <IdleOne> Innomen: please stay on topic ( support )
[06:35] <Innomen> Paddy_EIRE: stop insulting me and i'll stop responding offtopic
[06:35] <Pricey> !offtopic | Innomen
[06:35] <ubotu> Innomen: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:35] <kerbau> sorry people
[06:35] <thebigham> I have some more questions, how do i remove those Ubuntu Generic ###### on the GRUB during startup
[06:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: actually read that article..
[06:35] <thebigham> I have like 10 of them
[06:35] <Innomen> IdleOne: ok, how can i graphically disable a given device?
[06:35] <kylemory> why can my mac get around my school's proxy, but ubuntu cant??
[06:35] <Innomen> Paddy_EIRE: i did, i'm still asking
[06:35] <Vlet> kerbau: In a cursory google search, it appears it can. I don't have any info on it, but I would assume a simple google search for vsftpd and webmin would show you how
[06:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: then you are a fool
[06:36] <nucco> thebigham: edit menu.lst
[06:36] <nucco> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:36] <genii> kerbau: webmin has been removed
[06:36] <tamer> Hi all , i think i am having a problem with the colors here , it's not crucial but i expect a better performance from my LCD screen , does anyone have an idea about this ??
[06:36] <Innomen> !offtopic | Paddy_EIRE
[06:36] <ubotu> Paddy_EIRE: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:36] <Innomen> :)
[06:36] <IdleOne> Innomen: I do not know. and it does not seem there is a way to. you can make a wishlist bug on launchpad.net if thee isnt or perhaps make a GUI for what you need
[06:36] <Pricey> Paddy_EIRE, Innomen stop it now please.
[06:36] <Innomen> IdleOne: thank you for a straight answer, the first one i've gotten today.
[06:37] <kerbau> genii: what  u mean webmin has been removed??
[06:37] <kerbau> i alreasy install webmin
[06:37] <Innomen> Pricey: so when i'm attacked, i'm to blame. isnt that kinda like "she was asking for it" ? sad. Are you a moderator?
[06:37] <Basem> guys
[06:37] <shawnrgr> /dev/sdb1	/var/local/storage	ext3	user,noauto	0	2   -  this is right, isn't it? i can't get this drive to auto mount at boot. anyone help me out please?
[06:37] <genii> !info webmin
[06:37] <Vlet> Innomen: I think we've established that there is no gui for it. If you'd like to help, this is the spec page for the device manager: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeviceManagerSpec
[06:37] <ubotu> Package webmin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:37] <Basem> any one know how to run iso file?
[06:37] <kerbau> i already install webmin
[06:37] <Pici> !webmin | kerbau
[06:37] <ubotu> kerbau: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[06:37] <IdleOne> Innomen: you need to remember that people here are volunteers and not everybody has every answer. there might just be a GUI for disabling a device but I dont know of one. please relax and try searching or like I said make a wish on launchpad
[06:38] <Innomen> vlet: you realize that IdleOne was the first one to say there wasn't
[06:38] <nucco> shawnrgr: replace "noauto" with "auto"
[06:38] <genii> Pici: thanks, thats the one i wanted :)
[06:38] <Basem> helllllo
[06:38] <Vlet> Innomen: okay?
[06:38] <Basem> any one know how to run iso file as cd?
[06:38] <nucco> or remove it entirely
[06:38] <Innomen> IdleOne: i was attempting to expose a fundamental problem, and then i was attacked personally for daring to insinuate that ubuntu is less than perfect.
[06:38] <nucco> Basem: mount it, but it won't run as CD
[06:38] <kerbau> ahh i like webmin
[06:38] <genii> !iso
[06:38] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:39] <shawnrgr> nucco, huh, i've always used that before in the last 2 installs and it seemed to work. I will try, thank you for responding
[06:39] <Basem> that's the problem
[06:39] <nucco> Basem: it will be accessible as a folder
[06:39] <Basem> cause the game need the orginal cd
[06:39] <Basem> i dont need it as folder man
[06:39] <Basem> i need when the game check it find the orginal cd in the cdrom
[06:39] <Innomen> vlet: ok what, its hard to debate 15 people, and each time one of you scolds me, i'm going to respond if i feel the admonition was unjustified.
[06:39] <IdleOne> Innomen: I understand but like I said these people are volunteers and not trained or payed to help you in the manner you expect :) although the Ubuntu community is the greatest I have seen yet
[06:39] <Basem> any one know about this?
[06:39] <riotkittie> oh. for. the. love. of all things holy.  before anyone began insulting you, you chose to call us children.
[06:39] <Innomen> IdleOne: i agree 100%
[06:39] <hayashi1> did some1 try the linksys powerline mod ?
[06:40] <Pricey> Innomen, sorry I was away for a second. Yes I am an operator of the channel, would you like to chat with me about this in pm?
[06:40] <abcde_> Beagle isn't indexing some of my drives.  I did some research, and I read that it is because one is FAT32, and I'd assume since the other isn't indexing because it's NTFS.  Does anyone know how I can get these drives indexed?  Or is there an alternative indexer that will?
[06:40] <Innomen> riotkittie: being young is an insult?
[06:40] <IdleOne> Innomen: not lets get back on topic before the ops kick us both :)
[06:40] <nucco> Basem: maybe wizard in here can come up with a way to 'mkdev' and hook it up with the mounted folder :) ... if at all that's possible
[06:40] <Innomen> riotkittie: i meant nothing of the kind
[06:40] <Paddy_EIRE> ok guys change the subject
[06:40] <Basem> and when that will happen
[06:41] <IdleOne> Innomen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeviceManagerSpec check out the link maybe you can help out
[06:41] <PriceChild> AHEM!!! This channel is for Ubuntu stable release support only. Offtopicness ends here :)
[06:41] <Mark7> Why can't Gajim do file transfers?
[06:41] <Innomen> Pricey: i'd rather they get off my back, and i'd like to have my comments public, for the record. But I'm flexible.
[06:41] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: make an iso image on yor hdd of the game then mount it
[06:41] <tatters> what time GMT is gutsy going to arrive on the 18th
[06:41] <Innomen> Paddy_EIRE: i'd like an apology from you. I never called you names. And i did not deserve the ones you called me.
[06:41] <PriceChild> Innomen, then #pricechild if you'd like others the chance to talk
[06:41] <Paddy_EIRE> Innomen: clear of
[06:41] <Basem> maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
[06:41] <PriceChild> tatters, when it is ready.
[06:42] <mariocesar_bo> Hello all, I can't share a fat32 hardrive with samba, What is happening?
[06:42] <Basem> for the sousend time
[06:42] <DopplerDeffect> Is it difficult to determine hard drive free space? I notice a lack of any native app in Ubuntu to do it, any I can apt-get?
[06:42] <Basem> i dont need to read it
[06:42] <IdleOne> Innomen: if you feel the need to explain yourself then there is #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-dev to speak to the devs about your issue here we concentrate on support as best we can
[06:42] <Innomen> Paddy_EIRE: not surprising that you'd want the subject dropped.
[06:42] <Basem> the game chek for the orginal cd when it run
[06:42] <Vlet> Mark7: Are you and the person with whom you're trying to share a file both behind routers?
[06:42] <Paddy_EIRE> man I hate trolls
[06:42] <Innomen> IdleOne: noted, thank you, i will
[06:42] <PriceChild> Back on topic _please_
[06:42] <Vlet> Innomen: Do you have any other questions about ubuntu?
[06:42] <Basem> and i have the cd in iso forme
[06:42] <Basem> you got me now
[06:42] <tatters> PriceChild: has ubuntu ever failed to deliver on proposed launch date before?
[06:42] <Innomen> vlet: no but i have a question about the support channel
[06:42] <PriceChild> tatters, no. And we won't this time.
[06:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: have you mounted the iso image
[06:43] <Vlet> Innomen: then perhaps you should take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:43] <Basem> oh my god
[06:43] <Mark7> Vlet.  What's a router?
[06:43] <Innomen> PriceChild: whats the policy here on adhoms?
[06:43] <Basem> why i need to mount it?????
[06:43] <PriceChild> Innomen, adhoms?
[06:43] <Innomen> vlet: i'm asking about policy in this channel, am i to ask that in another channel?
[06:43] <Vlet> Mark7: Like, a wireless access point or other cable-modem/dls sharing device
[06:43] <Basem> i need the iso file to run as cd not as mount folder
[06:43] <PriceChild> Innomen, best place for that is #ubuntu-ops
[06:43] <linux4me> i tried ./configure and i have a configure error: the following components noted earlier are missing: glib-devel, libnet-devel, Please supply them and try again. can someone point me in the right direction?
[06:43] <PriceChild> Innomen, see also /msg ubotu guidelines
[06:44] <hayashi1> Basem: you want to use a drive without mouting it ?
[06:44] <Mark7> WOuld it make any difference if I told you I'm using GAjim as a multi protocol IM client Vlet?
[06:44] <Innomen> PriceChild: insults, ad homs, to the man attacks.
[06:44] <xbeanx> I'm trying to compile a bottled version of pything, including python-ldap..  When I compile python-ldap I get this error:  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl  .....however I do have libssl installed
[06:44] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87369
[06:44] <PriceChild> Innomen, #ubuntu-ops
[06:44] <Basem> ok guys
[06:44] <Basem> i have game
[06:44] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: follow that link it will solve your problem.. or it wont
[06:44] <Basem> when it run it look for the cd in the cd room
[06:44] <Basem> and i have that cd as iso fil
[06:44] <Innomen> PriceChild: no, if he can call me an idiot here without repercussion i can act similarly.
[06:44] <Basem> in windows i use program which run the iso file as cd
[06:45] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: does the same task basically http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87369
[06:45] <Basem> and make the game think that i run the orginal cd
[06:45] <fevel> hey guys, is there a list of hardware that are well suported by ubuntu so I can build the perfect box?
[06:45] <IdleOne> Innomen: you are very close to the line I suggest you take this to #ubuntu-ops and speak there about how you feel you have been threated
[06:45] <IdleOne> darn
[06:45] <Vlet> linux4me: Try doing: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev libnet1-dev
[06:45] <anolis> how do i kill "defunct" processes?
[06:45] <musashi> man i still cant get my wireless to work properly....
[06:45] <Basem> some one just give me that link
[06:45] <polo> salu
[06:46] <Basem> and i dont know how to save it
[06:46] <Basem> should i make it as text file or what
[06:46] <wastrel> hi
[06:46] <Vlet> Mark7: I'm not really sure. I don't know anything in particular about Gajim, but I know that if both you and your friend are behind routers, it can be difficult to transfer files
[06:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: read it
[06:46] <hayashi1> just highlight the link it copies it
[06:46] <Mark7> I don't think either of us are behind routers
[06:47] <Basem> i did read it
[06:47] <Basem> and i said i dont know how to save it
[06:47] <Vlet> Mark7: does it give any error or anything?
[06:47] <nareshov> any idea when 2.6.23 will be provided?
[06:47] <odomsbar_> I recorded this with Ubuntu http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5683698455031323470&hl=en
[06:47] <Mark7> It doesn't say anything vlet
[06:47] <Paddy_EIRE> !tab | Basem
[06:48] <ubotu> Basem: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:48] <Vlet> odomsbar_: very nice :)
[06:48] <nareshov> 'cause only 2.6.23 seems to work fine with my hda-intel sound
[06:48] <Vlet> Mark7: So what happens when you try?
[06:48] <Paddy_EIRE> so your response/questions are highlighted to me
[06:48] <Paddy_EIRE> oops
[06:48] <Basem> guys
[06:48] <Paddy_EIRE> doh
[06:48] <Basem> this is my first time i use linux ok
[06:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: follow-the-guide
[06:49] <Basem> paddy
[06:49] <Basem> can u plz dont help me any more
[06:49] <Basem> i dont need ur stupid help really
[06:49] <Mark7> Nothing, Vlet, the transfer doesn't even start
[06:49] <Vlet> Basem: Like I was saying earlier, what you're trying to do might be a bit difficult to you if this is your first time using linux. It's like asking someone to change the oil in a car who has never seen a car before
[06:49] <cached> How do I test if i'm running 64 bit or 32 bit?
[06:49] <nareshov> cached, uname -a
[06:49] <Paddy_EIRE> you can take a horse to water but you cant make him drink
[06:50] <nours> lu
[06:50] <nareshov> should show something
[06:50] <Basem> man i think windws was the best
[06:50] <cached> 2.6.22-14-generic
[06:50] <Basem> is hard to use linux
[06:50] <Basem> is not compelte operating system yet
[06:50] <cached> what does generic imply?
[06:50] <riotkittie> its hard to use any OS the first time around.
[06:50] <Basem> it just for the basic use
[06:50] <nareshov> cached, uname -m
[06:50] <kerbau> go windows go
[06:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Basem: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[06:50] <riotkittie> the fact that you. omg. <argh>
[06:50] <hayashi1> every good thing is hard to get XD
[06:50] <cached> i686
[06:50] <linux4me> vlet -tks, i think that it is but now I'm getting problems downloading the package...
[06:50] <dopplerdeffect> Is it difficult to determine hard drive free space? I notice a lack of any native app in Ubuntu to do it, any I can apt-get?
[06:50] <nareshov> i686 = 32-bit
[06:50] <Vlet> Basem: it's getting easier every day, but certain things are still difficult.
[06:50] <cached> thanks
[06:51] <Basem> it's velt in windws i just have program to run the game
[06:51] <Basem> no need for all this
[06:51] <soikez> Hi... Is there any way to find all the broken symlinks inside a directory?
[06:51] <Vlet> linux4me: I'd load up synaptic and search for them in there and try it... maybe you and or I didn't type the package names quite right
[06:51] <Basem> any way thankx al and i'm done with linux
[06:51] <Paddy_EIRE> bye
[06:51] <Mark7> I'm trying to send a file to someone right now and nothing is happening, Vlet
[06:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Mark7: you using dcc
[06:52] <Mark7> dcc?
[06:52] <Mark7> Paddy
[06:52] <Vlet> Mark7: try to see if the other person can send you a file... not sure what's happening mark... just trying to help, but I don't really have any answer for ya
[06:52] <Pseudoryx>  Hi everyone, I'm currently using gutsy server edition, running DWM as windows manager, does anyone know how to display the output from "Htop" apps on background mode, and blend it on top of Wallpaper?
[06:53] <Pseudoryx>  Hi everyone, I'm currently using gutsy server edition, running DWM as windows manager, does anyone know how to display the output from "Htop" apps on background mode, and blend it on top of Wallpaper? (in Xinitrc)???
[06:53] <kerbau> anyone knows how to download video from redtube.com
[06:53] <IdleOne> Pseudoryx: #ubuntu+1
[06:53] <Pseudoryx> ok
[06:54] <Castmich> hello guys, got a small issue here with my video drivers. if I use fglrxinfo while on normal user i get: mesa3d, on root I get ATI MOBILITY RADEON X600.
[06:54] <Vlet> kerbau: holy nsfw! :)
[06:54] <Mark7> Someone tried to send me a jpg and all he got was Mark canceled the transfer of pog_build_1.jpg
[06:54] <Castmich> also any 3D application runs in windowed mode and can't go full screen
[06:55] <Vlet> kerbau: check out https://addons.mozilla.org/ for firefox addons to allow you to download flash videos.
[06:55] <kerbau> Vlet: what nsfw
[06:55] <Vlet> Not Safe For Work
[06:55] <Mark7> not sdafe for work
[06:55] <wastrel> what's dwm
[06:55] <Mark7> Doctor Who Magazine?
[06:55] <livingdaylight> Yo guys.... is feisty gibbon ready yet?
[06:55] <kerbau> hehehe
[06:55] <Vlet> livingdaylight: thursday :)
[06:56] <kerbau> i just try
[06:56] <livingdaylight> Vlet, :p
[06:56] <etronik> hey guys, for a home server machine is ther much difference from 6.06 (daper?) to the latest version ??
[06:56] <etronik> dapper... sorry. ehat the latest stable version btw ??
[06:56] <PriceChild> etronik, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
[06:57] <etronik> eheh I hear ya
[06:57] <sainzeo> i have been unable to get my sound working in ubuntu - i have an audigy2 sound card and i set it as the main card under Control Panel - Sound - any suggestions?
[06:57] <kerbau> no any addon firefox can dowload video from redtube.com
[06:57] <etronik> although... something did get broken during minor kernel upgarde
[06:57] <PriceChild> etronik, upgrades could be more trouble than they're worth. Especially when you don't have any reason to upgrade it seems.
[06:57] <livingdaylight> actually, i got a question related to Amarok... i've had to apt-get remove --purge it; yet when i reinstall it i don't have a fresh install and have the same problems i tried to lose by remove -- purging it...
[06:57] <MasterShrek> !flash64
[06:57] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:57] <stuart-> hey guys
[06:57] <livingdaylight> Anyone know if and where there are any hidden or configuration files?
[06:57] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, probably related to your user specific settings in ~/.kde ?
[06:57] <stuart-> sound seems to be looping over and over, like a broken cd. how do i restart alsa?
[06:58] <Vlet> kerbau: yes there are. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=flash+video&status=4
[06:58] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, aha... yea... couldn't find any hidden files but figure there are some config files related to amarok somewhwere ineed to remove...
[06:58] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, well most kde stuff goes into ~/.kde :)
[06:58] <etronik> PriceChild: but thats my point... in order to say or not I have or not... I wanted to know if there were major advances in the server version... I dunno, better VMWare performance for ex.
[06:59] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, where would that be? :s
[06:59] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, ~ means home, then the folder .kde
[06:59] <livingdaylight> ok, gotcha
[06:59] <Lar> I'm making good progress on my Ubuntu installation. Except now poor mousy won't play nice.
[06:59] <Lar> How do I get my USB mouse to work???
[06:59] <Mark7> File transfer's are okay in Pidgin, Vlet
[06:59] <cyclonut> quick question - I want to try out fluxbox, but I want to do so without breaking gnome
[06:59] <fevel> hey guys, is there a list of hardware that are well suported by ubuntu so I can build the perfect box? im asking again cuz people might have missed it from the discussions
[06:59] <cyclonut> how do I go about it?
[06:59] <PriceChild> etronik, I don't know off hand, but again I'd say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
[06:59] <Paddy_EIRE> cyclonut: fluxbox wont break gnome
[07:00] <Mark7> So it's a Jabber problem
[07:00] <cyclonut> Paddy_EIRE: how do I attempt to use it instead of gnome, then?
[07:00] <etronik> PriceChild:  gotcha...
[07:00] <PriceChild> etronik, hardy herron (8.04) in april will be the next release and you'll be able to upgrade straight from dapper to hardy, missing others out. That might be a more beneficial upgrade.
[07:00] <Mark7> Time to go and post on the forums
[07:00] <fevel> whats the interface for xubuntu? aint it fluxbox?
[07:00] <cyclonut> Paddy_EIRE: I've tried to find the answer, but no luck
[07:00] <PriceChild> etronik, sorry... the next LTS release.
[07:00] <PriceChild> fevel, xfce4
[07:00] <fevel> oh
[07:00] <Mark7> Yeah
[07:00] <Zweisteine> !kernel
[07:00] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[07:00] <Paddy_EIRE> cyclonut: well you would sudo aptitude install fluxbox then logout and change your session to fluxbox
[07:00] <etronik> PriceChild: k, thanks
[07:01] <kerbau> Vlet: thank..i have try some addon....but no any luck
[07:01] <cyclonut> Paddy_EIRE: okay, well, here goes
[07:01] <Lar> anyone able to help me out with how to get a USB mouse recognized???
[07:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Lar: which mouse please mate
[07:01] <fevel> Lar, whats the problem?
[07:01] <mxcarron> hi
[07:01] <fevel> Lar, they usually work, im using one right now
[07:01] <Lar> MS Wheel mouse, uSB, optical
[07:01] <mxcarron> just a question
[07:02] <linux4me> does anyone here have ultra monkey runnning on feisty with an LVS-DR setup? i'm interested in the config files.
[07:02] <Vlet> kerbau: I dunoh man... this isn't really the right place to talk about that
[07:02] <fevel> you sure the mouse aint the problem?
[07:02] <sainzeo> i have been unable to get my sound working in ubuntu - i have an audigy2 sound card and i set it as the main card under Control Panel - Sound - any suggestions?
[07:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Lar: that should work straight away?.. one sec
[07:02] <Lar> that's what I assumed, but the curser just sits there looking at me...
[07:02] <Lar> I'm setting up in a VM.
[07:02] <Lar> works fine on my Windows box.
[07:02] <Aw0L> can anyone recommend a good linux-friendly pda?  I've always used Palm-based pda's.  Is there something better nowadays?
[07:02] <mxcarron> do you have problem to read subtitles with totem (gstreamer)?
[07:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Lar: are you using vmware-server
[07:02] <fevel> Lar, then its a misconfig on vmware
[07:03] <Lar> no, MS
[07:03] <fevel> probably
[07:03] <Lar> virtual pc 2007
[07:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Lar: that lacks usb support I think
[07:03] <kerbau> Vlet: nevermind.. i just boring right now..hahaha
[07:03] <Lar> oh, that could be a problem...
[07:03] <fevel> nope Paddy_EIRE
[07:03] <fevel> you just have to enable it
[07:03] <Paddy_EIRE> fevel: are you sure
[07:03] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, i tried Listen and its nice but seems to break down easily, i.e. its not all that stable for me
[07:03] <Paddy_EIRE> fevel: oh ok
[07:03] <Lar> I'll try a ps/2 and see if it works.
[07:03] <fevel> yeah
[07:03] <fevel> I installed win
[07:03] <Lar> thanks for the tip.
[07:03] <fevel> on vmware-server with usb mouse
[07:04] <Paddy_EIRE> fevel: could you explain to lar how to enable it
[07:04] <fevel> ooops
[07:04] <Lar> vmware just seems to use a lot more resources
[07:04] <Paddy_EIRE> ahh
[07:04] <fevel> hes not using vmwareserver
[07:04] <Lar> but then maybe cos it works better?
[07:04] <Paddy_EIRE> fevel: was wondering there
[07:04] <fevel> sorry Paddy_EIRE
[07:04] <Paddy_EIRE> np
[07:04] <fevel> never heard of that
[07:04] <Lar> I don't like the way vmware leaves services running all the time, either.
[07:04] <hdoria> anyone running wine + gutsy?
[07:05] <Lar> maybe a diff forum :-)
[07:05] <Paddy_EIRE> Lar: I think all VMs leave services running... its nessacery I think
[07:05] <Pici> hdoria: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy/7.10 support/discussion.
[07:05] <hdoria> ok
[07:05] <Brazileiro> ola
[07:05] <Brazileiro> ke tal a todos
[07:05] <Brazileiro> aka se habla espaol ??
[07:06] <Lar> thanks, Paddy. I'll take a closer look.
[07:06] <Lar> cheers.
[07:06] <hdoria> Brazileiro, #ubuntu-br
[07:06] <Paddy_EIRE> Lar: sure .. also check the forums for people with the same vm setup your doing
[07:06] <Brazileiro> ---[|hdoria|] --- ok
[07:06] <Brazileiro> .salir
[07:07] <ZeroA4> !es | ZeroA4
[07:07] <AngryElf> how do you disable all the annoying password prompts that I get throughout GNOME?
[07:07] <cached> Why is it that whenever the Wine Gecko Installer dialog box opens up, the console says Shutting Down (then counts up)
[07:07] <Paddy_EIRE> AngryElf: you dont want to do that
[07:08] <linux4me> vlet -tks, it installed ok now
[07:08] <Instabin|Work> n #games
[07:08] <Paddy_EIRE> !sudo | AngryElf
[07:08] <ubotu> AngryElf: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:08] <AngryElf> Paddy_EIRE: yes I do
[07:08] <AngryElf> I know what sudo is, thanx
[07:08] <Instabin|Work> has any one run ET:QW on ubuntu?
[07:09] <AngryElf> anyone know how to disable all the annoying GUI password prompts throughout GNOME?
[07:09] <kitche> AngryElf: that is gksu man gksu and it should tell you or you can always make it not ask for password at all
[07:09] <Paddy_EIRE> AngryElf: well thats a bad idea.. you basically want your system to be running with full root access open to whomever
[07:09] <daedric> whats wrong with ubuntu.org ???
[07:09] <AngryElf> kitche: thanx
[07:09] <Paddy_EIRE> AngryElf: although I found a guide 1 sec
[07:10] <Pici> daedric: The website is ubuntu.com, not .org
[07:10] <andy_1> can I get some help fixing my screen res.
[07:10] <kitche> daedric: how are we suppose to know?
[07:10] <trogdor> how do I edit /etc/motd?
[07:10] <daedric> Pici Ohhh.... sorry :$
[07:10] <wastrel> trogdor: sudo vi /etc/motd.tail
[07:10] <ZeroA4> daedric, it not a site of ubuntu linux... use ubuntu.com or ubuntulinux.org
[07:10] <Pici> trogdor: edit /etc/motd.tail
[07:11] <Pici> trogdor: man motd for the reason behind that.
[07:11] <trogdor> Pici, wastrel: thx
[07:12] <bullgard4> What stands the acpi wakeup device AZAL for?
[07:12] <Paddy_EIRE> AngryElf: try this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty read the  How to use "sudo" without prompt for password (not secure) section
[07:12] <Sontax`lap> Hey is there something like frontpage or dreamwaver for ubuntu ?
[07:13] <arcad3> days left?
[07:13] <Pici> arcad3: 2
[07:13] <arcad3> just cant wait
[07:13] <dgjones> !nvu | Sontax`lap
[07:13] <ubotu> Sontax`lap: kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)
[07:13] <Flare183> Sontax`lap:> yes Kompozer, Bluefish, and some others
[07:13] <Paddy_EIRE> Sontax`lap: http://www.kompozer.net/
[07:13] <Flare183> Sontax`lap:> quanta is the best
[07:13] <Flare183> i think so anyway
[07:14] <AngryElf> Paddy_EIRE: not really what i'm trying to do -- I'm trying to get rid of the annoying GUI password prompts throughout GNOME...like the one that comes up if I want to edit myh networking settings
[07:14] <andy_1> I need help with my screen res. I can't change it from 800x600 =\
[07:14] <arcad3> romani pe aici?
[07:14] <Paddy_EIRE> AngryElf: thats basically what you're doing
[07:15] <fourthgen> How do I get Xchat to automaticaly do stuff on connect?
[07:15] <Paddy_EIRE> AngryElf: thats why its not secure and not recommended
[07:15] <linux4me> i ran ./configure and it appeared successful for source files I downloaded, what else do I need to do? i downloaded and extracted this file, http://www.ultramonkey.org/download/3/debian.sarge/heartbeat/heartbeat_1.2.3.cvs.20050927.orig.tar.gz
[07:15] <smultron> anyone know the name of the CLI program that can split audio files?
[07:15] <erUSUL> smultron: sox
[07:15] <The_Joe_> Hello
[07:15] <erUSUL> !info sox | smultron
[07:15] <arcad3> linux4me: sudo make && make install
[07:16] <etronik> anybody willing to help me with weird mysql configuration problem ? check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40841/
[07:16] <The_Joe_> Y'know, I have sound working, but only through headphones
[07:16] <ubotu> smultron: sox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.18.2-1 (feisty), package size 323 kB, installed size 748 kB
[07:16] <The_Joe_> And yes I've checked that PC Speaker is on
[07:16] <smultron> erUSUL: thanks, i'll check it out :)
[07:16] <fourthgen> Also, anyone know how to get a users list up on Xchat?
[07:17] <Pici> fourthgen: I think you right click on the side and theres an option, but I'm not sure, I dont use xchat.
[07:17] <alh> you sse
[07:17] <MessiahAngel> hi all
[07:17] <nerafmelp> there are spanish channels available?
[07:17] <PriceChild> !es | nerafmelp
[07:17] <ubotu> nerafmelp: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:17] <alh> sorry
[07:17] <The_Joe_> Anyone have any ideas?
[07:17] <nerafmelp> thanks a lot
[07:17] <alh> dont know
[07:17] <nerafmelp> see you s
[07:17] <alh> year
[07:17] <davidm> fourthgen, View/Userlist
[07:18] <The_Joe_> I only have sound in my headphones
[07:18] <The_Joe_> And I've definately got my speakers on
[07:18] <linux4me> arcad3 - bah, getting an error 1..
[07:18] <gnr> anyone know why songbird wont play my music files? i just get error in the music bar...
[07:18] <arcad3> paste the error on patebin
[07:18] <gnr> patebin?
[07:18] <MessiahAngel> anyone has done the upgrade to Gutsy from Feisty on a RAID 0 stripe system ?
[07:18] <Pici> !pastebin
[07:18] <arcad3> *pastebin sorry
[07:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:19] <chuy_max> I use Ubuntu feisty, but I need to use dapper drake latest kernel, is it more safe to download the kernel source from dapper repository, or to download it from a linux kernel mirror and compile it
[07:19] <gnr> it doesnt tell me the error
[07:19] <arcad3> Pici esti roman?
[07:19] <gnr> doesn't even show up in the errors window
[07:19] <Pici> arcad3: no.
[07:20] <arcad3> i have a question...why NVU in FEisty isn't in repos anymore?
[07:20] <Pici> arcad3: because it wasnt being maintained anymore.
[07:21] <linux4me> arcad3 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40842/
[07:22] <arcad3> hmm did ./configure gave u any error?
[07:22] <mr_marvin> hello. i have partitioned my newly bought data hd (on "slave") using 2 ntfs partitions in winxp, but ubuntu sees it as one drive? is that ok?
[07:22] <blacklotus89> searching java-config for ubuntu does anyone know where i can find it?
[07:23] <UNDERsoN> Hello I have a problem. I wanna use enlighment but when I'm starting it is using wrong encoding. Which command can help me to set encoding or language in Enlighment?
[07:23] <linux4me> arcad3 - no, i'll run it again and double check
[07:23] <trogdor> mr_marvin: if its just for data why not use ext3, the specifications for such a file system are open source so more likely to be supported. It also doesn't fragment like ntfs
[07:24] <trogdor> mr_marvin: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=windows+ext3&btnG=Search
[07:25] <mr_marvin> trogdor: i gave it a thought, but decided ntfs... i typed "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb1" and end line is "partition table entries are not in disk order"?
[07:25] <blacklotus89> UNDERsoN: /wc
[07:26] <mr_marvin> trogdor: also: Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[07:26] <linux4me> arcad3 - here is the tail output of sudo ./configure, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40843/ - heartbeat says it is already the latest version if I do sudo apt-get install heartbeat
[07:26] <Jared> I have an amd 64 processor, is it worth it to switch to 64 bit ubuntu?
[07:26] <Jared> I mean...what would all the complications be?
[07:27] <UNDERsoN> blacklotus89> UNDERsoN: /wc>> what does it mean?
[07:27] <trogdor> mr_marvin: oh so you use that disk for things other than data
[07:27] <arcad3> then that was the prob...
[07:28] <arcad3> next time first look if ubuntu has in his repos the package u want ....if is not compile from source
[07:28] <newbiiie> I used the standard GUI based ubuntu 7.04 live cd when I tried to intall on my hp laptop.
[07:28] <newbiiie> Got error message and instalation hung. Found a possible solution in the forum, but it requires access to terminal.
[07:28] <newbiiie> How do I accsess the terminal from the "boot start up window"?
[07:28] <newbiiie> Do I need the command line based installer to accsess the terminal from the start of boot session?
[07:29] <MasterShrek> newbiiie, wait until thursday and install gutsy when its released, or try the alternate feisty install
[07:30] <mr_marvin> trogdor: no, just for media?
[07:30] <MasterShrek> KI4IKL, you cant really switch, youd pretty much have to reinstall
[07:30] <skipsjh> newbiiie what was the problem and possible solution
[07:30] <craig1709> Hello, I upgraded to gutsy a few days ago and my numpad on my keyboard has stopped working, any ideas?
[07:30] <soundray> newbiiie: to access a terminal, boot the full graphical system and choose Applications-Accessories-Terminal from the menu. Alternatively, hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 for a text-mode terminal
[07:30] <MasterShrek> craig1709, #ubuntu+1
[07:30] <Seeker`> craig1709: Num lock?
[07:30] <trogdor> mr_marvin: oh okay..
[07:30] <The_Joe_> Shrek! :o
[07:30] <MasterShrek> =] 
[07:31] <Instabin|Work> !gutsy
[07:31] <The_Joe_> Got sound at long last but it's only in my headphones O.o
[07:31] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[07:31] <mr_marvin> trogdor: i just hope that all is ok, since win does not report any errors?
[07:31] <craig1709> apologies for asking for support in the wrong room :( <insert swearword here> - never mind anyway, I had mouse keys on :'(
[07:32] <Instabin|Work> Any one here install quakewars demo yet?
[07:32] <bullgard4> What stands the acpi wakeup device AZAL for?
[07:32] <arcad3> The_Joe:remove the headphones JACK and insert the speacker jack in its place
[07:32] <Zergiu> I just downloaded a movie with bittorrent , there are a lot of packages , what do I need to do now?
[07:32] <The_Joe_> Arcad3: Huh?
[07:32] <The_Joe_> They're built in: Laptop
[07:32] <PSyKo> Hi, ive rm -rf /bin, what shall i dO?
[07:32] <MasterShrek> Zergiu, this is not the place for that kind of talk
[07:32] <trogdor> Zergiu: get the gstreamer 10 packages except the dbg and doc
[07:33] <LjL> PSyKo: reinstall.
[07:33] <Instabin|Work> PSyKo: reinstall
[07:33] <Instabin|Work> lol
[07:33] <Vlet> It seems like impatience of visitors here is directly proportional to the polularity of ubuntu
[07:33] <Zergiu> where should I ask then :S?
[07:33] <trogdor> MasterShrek: what sort of talk would that be
[07:33] <arcad3> then  remove the headphones
[07:33] <chippy> !warez
[07:33] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[07:33] <MasterShrek> trogdor ^^
[07:33] <teratoma> i want to rotate the utmp on my ubuntu box, as in erasing all traces of who has logged in recently, how do i do that?
[07:33] <newbiiie> skipsjh, problem and sollution here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
[07:33] <waldo323> Vlet, sorry i took everyone's patience i've been stockpiling it
[07:33] <trogdor> MasterShrek: there are thousands of torrented open source movies :P
[07:34] <MasterShrek> heh
[07:34] <__> Hey all wondering if anybody here has Dual Booted Ubuntu 7.04 with Mandriva 2008?
[07:34] <trogdor> I mean heck just look at google video
[07:34] <predaeus> teratoma, there is a tool called logrotate, I think ubuntu uses is by default on the system log files.
[07:34] <bkj> Hi. I have openususe installed and i want to intall ubuntu on another partition.I want to know will the ubuntu installation overwrite my boot loader from the opensuse?
[07:34] <Elb1> What size is the ubuntu 7.04 iso?
[07:35] <arcad3> yes bkj but it will be included in the ubuntu grub boot menu
[07:35] <kane77> the biggest showstopper for me is absence of suspend/hibernate in gutsy... I mean it still stays the only OS on my laptop but if it would suspend it would make my life much more complete :)
[07:35] <linux4me> arcad3 - tks. i just wasn't sure i had to compile. the documentation is not entirely clear for ultra monkey
[07:35] <soundray> bkj: yes, it will. But it will probably recognize the Suse installation and make a boot menu entry for it.
[07:35] <hdevalence> how would I use sed to strip the html tags from a file? I tried sed "s/<*>//g" index.html but it didn't work
[07:35] <Zergiu> ok , a better idea , how do I copy files from the ubuntu partition to the windows one , and they are mounted
[07:35] <akorn> Elbl i think it's around 695 megs unelss you get the DVD
[07:35] <PriceChild> !offtopic | kane77
[07:35] <Vlet> bkj: If it's grub, it'll probably just update the manu.lst... otherwise I'm GUESSING that yes, it'll overwrite.. just guessing though :)
[07:35] <ubotu> kane77: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:35] <soundray> bkj: if not, you can always add it afterwards
[07:35] <blasty_> the sound of gnome/gdm is broken and loops.. until I kill the esd daemon.. yet XMMS plays my music fine when I configure it to use ALSA and the proper device. yet configuring ALSA in the 'preferences -> sound' dialog for gnome sounds does _not_ work. any ideas?
[07:35] <MasterShrek> kane77, agreed
[07:35] <bkj> Vlet its grub
[07:35] <trogdor> kane77: suspend is most useless thing you could do with a computer :/
[07:35] <bkj> soundray how can i add it?
[07:35] <MasterShrek> trogdor, not with a laptop
[07:36] <kane77> trogdor, why do you think so? it is _very_ handy on laptop
[07:36] <trogdor> MasterShrek: it appears powered off but still has the fan going right? what are chances of it getting thrown into that leather bag and overheating until its crap?
[07:36] <trogdor> kane77: its also endlessly buggy with hw vendors
[07:36] <antares88> wenas
[07:36] <soundray> bkj: it's a matter of adding a few lines to /boot/grub/menu.lst -- get specific instructions from us here if you really run into this problem.
[07:36] <akorn> Trogdor: mine doesn't run a fan at all when it's in Suspend
[07:36] <MasterShrek> trogdor, hibernate turns all power off
[07:36] <antares88> algun espaol?
[07:36] <MasterShrek> !es
[07:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:36] <kane77> PriceChild, is it realy OT? I just wanted to find out more about suspend/hibernate in ubuntu...
[07:36] <trogdor> MasterShrek: hibernate sounds useful but its requires so much disk space it really depends if you want it or not
[07:36] <mr_marvin> i'm not sure if i have a problem, but ubuntu does not recognise file system on my secondary hd?
[07:37] <Vlet> bkj: Well, when you install two versions of ubuntu side by side (on different partitions) the second install knows to update the menu, not overwrite, so I would guess that the ubuntu installer will just look for /boot/grub ... meaning for all it knows, your other linux install could very well be ubuntu
[07:37] <PriceChild> kane77, gutsy is not release. It is offtopic.
[07:37] <akorn> mr_marvin: what type of file system is your secdonary HD?
[07:37] <PriceChild> *released
[07:37] <kane77> PriceChild, it is just matter of hours...
[07:37] <MasterShrek> trogdor, it doesnt require THAT much disk space, just as much ram as you have i think, and suspend is nice for powersaving between classes
[07:37] <PriceChild> kane77, Don't care. See ubotu's message.
[07:37] <MasterShrek> kane77, join the party #ubuntu-release-party =P
[07:38] <mr_marvin> akorn: 2 partitions in ntfs, but ubuntu sees them as 4 partitions (unknown, unknown, novell netware (!?), empty)
[07:38] <akorn> Anybody know if Mandriva's bootloader would overwrite Ubuntu 7.04's? both are GRUB but i hear they haven't fixed it from overwriting
[07:39] <akorn> mr_marvin: lemme check what program it was that i installed, but i'm able to mount and read/write on my other NTFS partition with it
[07:39] <Vlet> akorn: for that, you'd likely have to ask the mandriva people
[07:39] <trogdor> MasterShrek: eh guess I'll give it a try but think its broken on my laptop too but it has gutsy now
[07:39] <kane77> PriceChild, okay.. I apologize...
[07:39] <soundray> akorn: yes, it should overwrite if the installation works properly. But this is really a Mandriva question.
[07:39] <akorn> Vlet do you know their IRC server?
[07:40] <bkj> Vlet is it possible when on the installation of ubuntu to choose not to install boot loader?
[07:40] <mr_marvin> akorn. any use if linux cannot see it? i inspected with "fdisk -l /dev/sdb1"?
[07:40] <pejo_> hmm. anyone ever noticed a problem where you get this code 200\230 instead of "[" in xterm?
[07:51] <Vlet> bkj: It may be, but I don't know
[07:51] <akorn> mr_marvin: oh you can't even see it when you're booted into Ubuntu?
[07:51] <bkj> ok thanks
[07:51] <MasterShrek> bkj, maybe, i dont remember exactly, but you can always go back and reinstall grub to a different partition, like your suse one
[07:51] <soundray> bkj: only if you use the alternate CD
[07:51] <Zergiu> can I copy files from linux to windows partitions?
[07:51] <mr_marvin> akorn: yes. that is what i get when i type commend above...
[07:51] <akorn> mr_marvin: Maybe try installing a program called NTFS Configuration Tool (you can do it from Applications==>Add/Remove)
[07:51] <soundray> Zergiu: yes
[07:51] <Kilroo> Hmm. Are there any other "flavors" of Ubuntu aside from the main three and Fluxbuntu?
[07:51] <Vlet> akorn: #mandrive maybe?
[07:51] <waldo323> bkj, you can choose to install grub somewhere else at least if you have to install it, then you can just change the menu.lst to include ubuntu
[07:51] <Zergiu> ok , how :P?
[07:51] <Vlet> akorn: I mean #mandriva
[07:51] <akorn> Vlet: thanks...if it'sn to that i'll just check online haha should take two seconds :)
[07:51] <soundray> Zergiu: ubotu will send you private messages
[07:51] <soundray> !ntfs > Zergiu
[07:51] <Zergiu> ok
[07:51] <soundray> !ntfs-3g > Zergiu
[07:51] <PriceChild> Kilroo, ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, fluxbuntu, elbuntu, edubuntu, gobuntu, mythbuntu, then there's stuff like ubuntu ce, ubuntu me etc.
[07:51] <mr_marvin> akorn: no, no... on my first (boot) drive i mounted ntfs without problems, but on secondary ubuntu cant't even see that patririons are in ntfs
[07:51] <Kilroo> Thank you.
[07:51] <Vlet> nubuntu :)
[07:51] <Square_root> are all those proxy lists out there http only?
[07:51] <Zergiu> When I listen to music amarok colapses , why?
[07:51] <osmosis> how do I find what package owns  /usr/sbin/locale-gen
[07:51] <Amaranth> osmosis: dpkg -S locale-gen
[07:51] <PriceChild> !offtopic | The_Joe_
[07:51] <ubotu> The_Joe_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:51] <predaeus> Zergiu, run amarok from a terminal and see if it prints some error messages
[07:51] <The_Joe_> Wrong Channel >.<
[07:51] <The_Joe_> Tabs...
[07:51] <MasterShrek> The_Joe_, why, if u waited this long i would have just waited until thursday
[07:51] <pulseezar> rhythm box is too much like itunes for my liking, any good alternatives?
[07:51] <Amaranth> MasterShrek: gutsy is done
[07:51] <The_Joe_> I know but I got persuaded
[07:51] <MasterShrek> pulseezar, amarok
[07:51] <MasterShrek> Amaranth, really? i was not aware
[07:51] <The_Joe_> I didn't even mean to send that to Freenode
[07:51] <soundray> !player > pulseezar, please read the private message from ubotu
[07:51] <predaeus> pulseezar, Audacious
[07:51] <Amaranth> MasterShrek: Unless some huge installer or data loss bug shows up at the last minute (not likely) it's done already
[07:51] <MasterShrek> ic
[07:51] <mr_marvin> even though partitions are not recognised, ubuntu will mount them properly... guess this is not a problem? :)
[07:51] <bastid_raZor> i'm attempting to locate drivers for a lexmark X5070 .. but i'm having issues finding a driver
[07:51] <pulseezar> does anyone use foobar 2000 in windows and know something similar for ubuntu?
[07:51] <akorn> mr_marvin: sorry i have to run but i don't know how to help you other than trying that program out!
[07:51] <nun63> ciao
[07:51] <pulseezar> maybe audacious is quite similar...
[07:51] <mr_marvin> akorn. thank you. i think it worked out..
[07:51] <davemlinux1> No logout sound on 7.10 gnome-desktop,but from preferences tabs plays with no problems
[07:51] <davemlinux1> Any help appreciate
[07:51] <soundray> davemlinux1: #ubuntu+1
[07:51] <gunashekar> t out?
[07:51] <gunashekar> /join #alsa
[07:51] <blazemonger> is gibson going to be worth the update?
[07:51] <BrightEyes`> anyone to help me configure my mic to work with skype? (using alsamixer)
[07:51] <CaBa> hey everyone
[07:51] <blazemonger> i dont see the point in releasing new versions every few months
[07:51] <soundray> !gutsy > blazemonger, read ubotu's private message pls
[07:51] <teratoma> the bot should kick you for rhetorical questions
[07:51] <andy_1> can anyone help me with my screen resolution?
[07:51] <blazemonger> what version of ubuntu u folx use ?
[07:51] <MasterShrek> gutsy
[07:51] <soundray> !fixres > andy_1, please read ubotu's private message
[07:51] <PriceChild> !offtopic | blazemonger
[07:51] <ubotu> blazemonger: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:51] <CaBa> !fixres
[07:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:51] <soundray> !msgthebot > CaBa
[07:51] <andy_1> Ty
[07:51] <pulseezar> next question: the volume wheel on the side of my laptop doesn't work when using ubuntu. WHat gives?
[08:19] (llivavin/#ubuntu) MasterShrek:  shows nothing.
[08:19] (Pici/#ubuntu) llivavin: ps aux | grep apt
[08:19] (lgespee/#ubuntu) I have a problem booting the LiveCD on a new PC from Dell, the problem I think is it has no PS/2 ports, and the USB keyboard is not recognized by the boot menu
[08:19] (soundray/#ubuntu) xion87: ubuntu is love
[08:19] (w00tzilla/#ubuntu) soundray:  you need to chill out.  I am asking the question for someone who has an answer.  Unless someone were to spend the time figuring out what to do, they would not know about firestarter.  It is something that has to be added seperately.  This is not needed with a fedora or centos install.   I am wondering why something like Firestarter is not installed by default.
[08:19] (llivavin/#ubuntu) Pici:  llivavin  5878  0.0  0.0   2884   760 pts/3    S+   14:19   0:00 grep apt
[08:19] (Pici/#ubuntu) llivavin: hrm.
[08:19] (Vlet/#ubuntu) lgespee: Is it 7.04 or 7.10? I had similar issues with 7.10 betas
[08:19] (MasterShrek/#ubuntu) lgespee, it should be recognized, maybe try the gutsy cd when it comes out in 2 days
[08:19] (lgespee/#ubuntu) Vlet: 7.10 RC
[08:20] (pulseezar/#ubuntu) soundray: ubuntu may not be love, i'm not sure how much I like it...
[08:20] <lgespee> MasterShrek: I am using 7.10 RC
[08:20] <geraldo> how do you set up the "mail" client to a different email account... that is one other than that by default which is my user name @ubuntu
[08:20] <w00tzilla> lgespee:  I had similar problems and when I used the VGA or safe graphics mode it worked ok.  Yes, I am referring to mouse and keyboard problems
[08:20] <soundray> w00tzilla: and I'm telling you you need to raise this elsewhere. In -offtopic, in #ubuntu-motu, or file a wishlist bug on launchpad. But stop bothering us with it, this is a support channel.
[08:20] <llivavin> lgespee: is it pluged in?
[08:20] <MasterShrek> lgespee, its rc there still, somewhat unstable, its probably not loading the correct usb drivers
[08:21] <lgespee> w00tzilla: but I can't choose that option, cause I can't move to another menu option, cause the keyboard doesn't respond
[08:21] <Vlet> w00tzilla: for just the reason you mentioned. Ubuntu is meant to be a noon friendly distro - a distro for average desktop users. Average desktop users have no concerns with or need for firewall management tools. Including one would add unnecessary complexity
[08:21] <Amaranth> MasterShrek: Other than about 5 issues if it's broken in the RC it's broken in the final release
[08:21] <lgespee> llivavin: for sure I can press F12 to get the PC boot menu to choose CD, so I am positive it is
[08:21] <Veinor> Amaranth: any clue what the five issues are?
[08:21] <llivavin> Pici:??
[08:21] <pulseezar> so, how can i mess around with gnome options?
[08:21] <xion87> somesone know how i can create a script?
[08:22] <Amaranth> Veinor: one with compiz, one with usplash, a couple with gnome iirc, and one with open office
[08:22] <Veinor> xion87: a script in what program to do what?
[08:22] <lgespee> MasterShrek: well I hope it will be fixed before the day after tomorrow, I will throw in a 7.04 CD, to see what it does
[08:22] <xion87> i want that hamachi autorun
[08:22] <xion87> hamachi
[08:22] <Vlet> lgespee: That issue may be resolved in the final release. #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel to ask about it
[08:22] <Amaranth> Vlet: no
[08:22] <w00tzilla> Vet:  It could work in the same way most other base firewalls are set up with other OS's or other distros.  Anyway, thx for the info.
[08:22] <soundray> xion87: System-Preferences-Session-Startup programs
[08:22] <lgespee> Vlet: thanks
[08:22] <llivavin> I cant use apt-get it says another program is using it? Even though there is no program open that is using it.
[08:22] <Gin> llivavin, does the file /var/lib/dpkg/lock exist?
[08:22] <Vlet> w00tzilla: well, other distros like fedora, etc aren't meant to be as 'dumbed down' as ubuntu is :)
[08:23] <Amaranth> llivavin: update-manager may be doing something, wait 5-10 minutes
[08:23] <Megaqwerty> llivavin: what's the output of: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:23] <w00tzilla> soundray: You do not have to respond; that is your choice to do so.
[08:23] <llivavin> Gin:  yes.
[08:23] <Gin> llivavin, just remove it
[08:23] <soundray> w00tzilla: you're adding to the noise, though.
[08:24] <xion87> ok done :)
[08:24] <pulseezar> am i the only one not feeling the ubuntu love?
[08:24] <xion87> thx i go
[08:24] <cujo> soundray: name of loaded module is tun  (found in lsmod)
[08:24] <llivavin> Thank you gin
[08:24] <xion87> bye
[08:24] <w00tzilla> There is more noise with the joining and leaving than there is with my question.  Rather than tell me to shut up, you could answer my question with whatever you know or think and then call it good.  Customer Service skills go a long way, even in IRC
[08:24] <soundray> cujo: so it's loaded already, but it still doesn't work?
[08:25] <kazim59> I want to do kernel module programming.. but its unsafe to do so on running kernel... where can I find ways to setup module development environment (e.g. I've seen people using qemu for it)
[08:25] <Veinor> w00tzilla: you can't help join and quit messages. You can stop talking in #ubuntu.
[08:25] <lgespee> Vlet, MasterShrek: in 7.04 it works
[08:25] <soundray> Veinor: actually, you can filter join and quit messages.
[08:25] <Gin> kazim59, use virtualbox?
[08:25] <Veinor> true, but my point is that the people who are joining and quitting can't stop it on their end. he can stop talking.
[08:26] <soundray> w00tzilla: still posting offtopic. Please make sure you don't get yourself kicked.
[08:26] <llivavin> Hrm
[08:26] <llivavin> Gin: Im still getting the error thing.
[08:26] <Gin> llivavin, same error?
[08:26] <Steve-T> anyone got ubuntu running with duplex sound? ie recording streaming audio in audacity
[08:26] <llivavin> yes.
[08:26] <Vlet> lgespee: yeah, I think I had the same issue with the 7.10 livecd... we'll just have to wait til thursday and see
[08:26] <pulseezar> mmmmmmm no love in here, maybe i'll boot back into windows...
[08:26] <Veinor> pulseezar: what do you need?
[08:27] <Gin> llivavin, check the file /var/lib/dpkg/lock again, if it is there again, then something in the background is doing a dpkg job
[08:27] <w00tzilla> Vienor:  I think the question is a very important one, one that I will need to answer to my bosses if I chose Ubuntu as an alternative OS for my users. Out of the box Ubuntu is supposed to be secure but the lack of firewalling concerns me.  The question is legit; the responses I am getting are not warranted.  I still have yet to receive a response that gives me a legitimate reason.
[08:27] <cujo> soundray: no,   i can "ifconfig tap1 192.168.1.12"    it accepts the address but if i make a "ping 192.168.1.254" tcpdump shows on tap1  arp requests one after the other and they are not visible on the phisical network!
[08:27] <soundray> pulseezar: you never acknowledge the help you're getting, so I don't know whether I get through to you.
[08:27] <kazim59> Gin: Qemu & virtualbox almost the same, but exactly what should I do?
[08:27] <pulseezar> an os that i like a little more
[08:27] <lgespee> Vlet: okidoki, thanks for all the help so far
[08:27] <soundray> cujo: sorry, this is over my head
[08:27] <soundray> !ops | w00tzilla uneducatable about offtopic
[08:27] <Vlet> w00tzilla: it has a firewall. It is secure. It just doesn't have the gui for it. A GUI which would be irrelevant to ubuntu's target audience.
[08:28] <ubotu> w00tzilla uneducatable about offtopic: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[08:28] <llivavin> g
[08:28] <cujo> soundray: thanks for your time  ;-)
[08:28] <llivavin> Gin:  what could be using it?
[08:28] <pulseezar> soundray: sorry, I keep looking stuff up and losing myself a bit...
[08:28] <Gin> llivavin, so the file is there again?
[08:28] <llivavin> Yeah.
[08:28] <Gin> llivavin, just wait a few minutes
[08:28] <llivavin> It's been like this for the past 10 minutes -.-
[08:28] <cujo> someone who knows ubuntu networking!!      i need a real expert!
[08:28] <LjL> w00tzilla: stay ontopic or join #ubuntu-offtopic. this channel is *only* for Ubuntu Feisty (and earlier) support questions. anything else must be avoided, since the channel is loaded enough.
[08:29] <w00tzilla> Asking about ubuntu firewalling is not on topic?  All I am getting is rude responses but ok.
[08:29] <soundray> cujo: please state the problem precisely. Your question won't attract much interest from people who have that specific knowledge about TUN/TAP.
[08:30] <Steve-T> If we're talking firewalls, does anyone know how to tell moblock to unblock news.easynews.com?
[08:30] <Gin> llivavin, sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock  this should tell you what program is using it
[08:30] <soundray> cujo: also, be prepared to repeat after 30 minutes or so when experts may have newly logged on.
[08:30] <w00tzilla> Steve, there is supposed to be a GUI for moblock but I have not tried it yet.
[08:30] <spok> Hello there!
[08:30] <llivavin> Gin
[08:30] <knoppix> Hello
[08:30] <llivavin> it gives me nothing.
[08:31] <malmi> the restrikted drivers managers "fglrx" (ati) driver wont work for me (ubuntu 7.10 x64) :<
[08:31] <cujo> soundray: thanks!
[08:31] <w00tzilla> Steve, I typically turn moblock off when I am not doing bit torrent type of stuff
[08:31] <spok> Damn, those Xchat for Gnome looks pretty nice. I'm just wondering if not to dump Irssi for this =)
[08:31] <Gin> llivavin, did you use sudo??
[08:31] <llivavin> Yes.
[08:31] <cujo> soundray: so i write all the facts in one line???   this will be big!
[08:31] <Gin> llivavin, weird... :
[08:32] <emmajane> w00tzilla, have you tried googling your question?
[08:32] <iulius> irc://irc.abjects.net/elitewarez
[08:32] <Gin> llivavin, have you done something unusual lately?
[08:32] <ompaul> cujo, if it is a novel use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:32] <bexamous_> when making a custom live cd...  how can you have it automatically log in as root rather than 'ubuntu' user
[08:32] <emmajane> w00tzilla, I'm unclear on what answer you haven't found.
[08:32] <jaldhar> Since I upgraded to gutsy, udevd pegs cpu to 86%.  Anyone seen this?
[08:32] <blix__> Im on Vista and I'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu...the Ubuntu boot process won't let me, I get the message "cannot find information"
[08:32] <soundray> cujo: that's fine. It'll demonstrates that you have tried to solve the problem on your own.
[08:32] <blix__> any solutions?
[08:32] <soundray> *demonstrate
[08:32] <llivavin> Gin Adept manager crashed on me saying something about headers
[08:32] <cujo> :-)
[08:32] <blix__> I've had this problem before and I resorted to deleting my Hard drive
[08:33] <soundray> blix__: the ubuntu boot process? Please elaborate
[08:33] <Gin> llivavin, Adept manager?? never heard of it
[08:33] <Gin> :D
[08:33] <blix__> when I just burn an .iso onto disc
[08:33] <llivavin> Gin KDE
[08:33] <llivavin> :v
[08:33] <soundray> jaldhar: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:33] <blix__> and I want to install ubuntu on a unpartioned disk
[08:33] <kane77> how do I permanently enable the tips that powertop gives me?
[08:33] <Gin> llivavin, maybe try #kubuntu :\
[08:33] <jaldhar> soundray: never mind, it's been reported: bug #119315
[08:34] <soundray> blix__: please try to keep it on one line. So you boot off the CD and how far do you get?
[08:34] <llivavin> Gin its all the same thing, and This is ubuntu with KDE installed.
[08:34] <Gin> llivavin, but try restarting your pc and see what it does
[08:34] <llivavin> Gin that was the first thing i did.
[08:34] <blix__> but the Ubuntu disc get's as far as displaying the logo and then just prompts - can't find information
[08:34] <blix__> and then I'm just left with a shell.
[08:34] <llivavin> blix__:  Make the CD again?
[08:35] <blix__> the CD is fine
[08:35] <ompaul> blix__, a ubuntu shell (bash) or grub boot manager shell?
[08:35] <blix__> I'm preety sure it works
[08:35] <blix__> probably a grub boot manager shell
[08:35] <soundray> blix__: please keep it on one line! Have you checked the CD using the boot menu option?
[08:35] <emmajane> w00tzilla, for example: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43273&page=1
[08:35] <ompaul> blix__, sorry let me rephrase that are you on CD or hard drive?
[08:35] <Steve-T> I thought Bitttorrent'ing was the time to use moblock most.. when theres fake IP's out there..
[08:36] <blix__> Yeah I was shown the boot menu and I selected Install and Start Ubuntu
[08:36] <Gin> llivavin, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-420759.html
[08:36] <skippy> aloha
[08:36] <blix__> saw the logo and it couldn't go any further, this must be a common problem.
[08:36] <soundray> blix__: at this point, you have the option to check the CD for errors. Try that, and if it reports a problem, re-burn the iso.
[08:36] <blix__> k
[08:37] <blix__> I'll try with another distro
[08:37] <blix__> :P
[08:37] <blix__> brb
[08:37] <Tronyx> blix, may i ask what graphics card you are using?
[08:37] <novice_root> hi, i need help with playing real media video files
[08:37] <ompaul> !bootoptions | blix__
[08:37] <ubotu> blix__: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[08:37] <blix__> Nvidia Geforce 8400M GT
[08:37] <ompaul> blix__, ^^ go there look at that
[08:37] <novice_root> is anyone here having a workable solution
[08:37] <blix__> ok
[08:37] <soundray> !restricted > novice_root, please read ubotu's private message
[08:38] <dpf> I have a ATI RADEON 200 Chipset on motherboard with the restricted drivers enabled...when i go into winecfg, the dialog box is too large for my window so i cannot click OK or CANCEL...anyway to adjust this?
[08:38] <kane77> dpf, can you move the window?
[08:38] <dpf> left and right not higher or lower
[08:38] <kane77> dpf, alt + drag
[08:38] <dpf> cannot adjust Wine Desktop window either
[08:39] <soundray> kane77: wow, I didn't know that would let you move beyond the top and left! Very useful, thanks
[08:39] <boris_> ETQW-demo-client-1.1-full.r5.x86.run: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[08:39] <boris_> whys that
[08:39] <dpf> kane - does not work
[08:39] <novice_root> soundray, i have already tried all that i can get on then net
[08:39] <boris_> i ran it with 'sh' command
[08:40] <knoppix_> hello
[08:40] <soundray> boris_: run it with bash instead. sh is dash by default on ubuntu
[08:40] <novice_root> soundray, i even have real player installed but thing is after playing for sometime it generates segmentation fault
[08:40] <novice_root> so i need a more staable solution
[08:40] <soundray> boris_: you can reconfigure that by running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash'
[08:40] <boris_> soundtray : 'bash ETQW-demo-client-1.1-full.r5.x86.run'
[08:40] <boris_> ?
[08:40] <dpf> kane77: when i tried to press ALT + DRAG, it did the same thing - will go up but not past the WINE desktop so still cannot see the OK/CANCEL button...Thanks for the help
[08:40] <soundray> boris_: yes
[08:51] <boris_> ETQW-demo-client-1.1-full.r5.x86.run: ETQW-demo-client-1.1-full.r5.x86.run: cannot execute binary file
[08:51] <soundray> boris_: okay, then you'll need to do this: 'chmod u+x ETQW-demo-client-1.1-full.r5.x86.run ; ./ETQW-demo-client-1.1-full.r5.x86.run'
[08:51] <soundray> boris_: please note: no pasting here.
[08:51] <kane77> dpf, well I won't be of much help then...
[08:51] <llivavin> Thank you gin
[08:51] <RkyRaccoon55> does anyone know how to get amarok to play .ogg?
[08:51] <soundray> dpf: can you connect an external display temporarily?
[08:51] <dpf> kane77: is there a way to have the wine desktop open larger?  As it is only right now about the size of a gnome-termnial window
[08:51] <soundray> RkyRaccoon55: what does it say when you try?
[08:51] <dpf> not sure what you mean, soundray
[08:51] <boris_> soundtray it works now thanks
[08:51] <soundray> dpf: you're on a laptop, aren't you?
[08:51] <RkyRaccoon55> soundray, nothing it just wont detect them in my library
[08:51] <dpf> soundray: no desktop with 17" monmitor
[08:51] <RkyRaccoon55> soundray, nevermind it just worked
[08:51] <soundray> RkyRaccoon55: what did you do?
[08:51] <soundray> dpf: I misread your original problem, sorry
[08:51] <RkyRaccoon55> soundray, rescanned collection again
[08:51] <soundray> RkyRaccoon55: oddities...
[08:51] <RkyRaccoon55> soundray, yea
[08:51] <lgespee> Vlet: I placed a comment under bug 35530, there I also read it's possible to skip the graphical bootmenu (gfxboot) by holding the shift key while booting, this is indeed a work around, the system now boots from the livecd
[08:51] <therapy> does anyone in here get a black screen after resume when logging out on feisty, with fglrx, xgl and desktop effects enabled?
[08:51] <Vlet> lgespee: oh, that's very good to know about the shift key
[08:51] <dpf> soundray: when i open up winecfg to make changes, the Wine Desktop window it opens in is limited in size and cannot be adjusted.  Therefore, I can make changes in WineCFG but I cannot press OK to save them.  It will only allow me to drag the window up a little and i still cannot see OK
[08:51] <mehevi> Hi guys.  I'm using Xfce and would like to know what I would edit to disable the password when the screensaver wakes up?  Is it the same place to disable password on unhibernate? I need to get rid of that too.  Unless I could make a keyboard pop up so I could enter my pw...
[08:51] <soundray> therapy: that and other weird problems. I moved back to the radeon driver on that laptop.
[08:51] <nullfs> I am using rdiff to backup files from a bsd machine which makes use of ACL's. I am getting this error with rdiff on my ubuntu box that says 'ACLs not supported on filesystem at /location'. So I apt-get acl and then I remounted the /backup drive with the acl option but it still giving me the same error
[08:51] <nullfs> is there another step I missed?
[08:51] <mehevi> dpf try holding alt and dragging anywhere on the window
[08:51] <WaltzingAlong> !info youtube-dl
[08:51] <therapy> soundray: maybe stupid question
[08:51] <ubotu> youtube-dl: download videos from youtube.com. In component universe, is extra. Version 2007.01.19-1 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 64 kB
[08:51] <therapy> soundray: maybe stupid question, but is it possible to run desktop effects with radeon driver?
[08:51] <erpie> hello
[08:51] <erpie> can i ask some help?
[08:51] <mehevi> erpie !ask
[08:51] <mehevi> !ask
[08:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:51] <WaltzingAlong> !ask | erpie
[08:51] <Flare183> !ask | erpie
[08:51] <ubotu> erpie: please see above
[08:51] <WaltzingAlong> yes
[08:51] <soundray> therapy: in principle, yes, but on that particular machine, it won't work.
[08:51] <Flare183> wow
[08:51] <dpf> mehevi: same thing - drags, but only goes up a little and not to the point of seeing OK
[08:51] <crazypoultry> i just installed 7.10 as 7.04 would not install on my notebook, When using the live cd i have a wired connection that works fine but after booting from the hdd it disppears, i'm a complete new guy to linux and i'm lost any help would e appreciated
[08:51] <erpie> thx well my prob is to install java6 on festy
[08:51] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | crazypoultry
[08:51] <ubotu> crazypoultry: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:51] <erpie> ive get all packages
[08:51] <therapy> soundray: thx
[08:51] <Flare183> !java
[08:51] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:51] <WaltzingAlong> crazypoultry: what do you want to do?
[08:51] <dpkk> hello
[08:51] <markelhas> hi can some one help to install a pci wifi card with ndis?
[08:51] <Flare183> !java | erpie
[08:51] <ubotu> erpie: please see above
[08:51] <dpf> ah ha
[08:51] <arcad3> where shall i copy the speedtch-1.bin ?
[08:51] <WaltzingAlong> !wifi | markelhas
[08:51] <ubotu> markelhas: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:51] <mehevi> dpf you got it
[08:51] <mehevi> ?
[08:51] <dpf> i figured it out - changed emulation desktop to 640x480
[08:51] <erpie> ive read the help above but it cant solve mine problem
[08:51] <crazypoultry> i lost my wired connection after installing, not sure whar happened
[08:51] <Atalanta> is Ubuntu 7.10 (assuming i downloaded the unstable version right now) pretty close to what we'd get in 2 days?
[08:51] <dpf> changed back to 800 x 600 and it worked
[08:51] <markelhas> WaltzingAlong, that didn't solve my problem
[08:51] <soundray> dpf: well done :)
[08:51] <dpkk> :)
[08:51] <AlexC__> hey
[08:51] <markelhas> WaltzingAlong, i've installed my d-link every thing was working but now not anymore
[08:51] <Flare183> erpie:> well you have to direct the program to where the jre is at (ex pathmname)
[08:51] <WaltzingAlong> markelhas: and the problem is?
[08:51] <erpie> mm what u mean flare?
[08:51] <markelhas> WaltzingAlong, now i load the driver and make the modprob but the card is not reconize any more
[08:51] <erpie> the prob is that java6 need jre and jre need java6 to b installed
[08:51] <Flare183> erpie:> ok what is the program that you are trying to get java to work on?
[08:51] <dpf> Thanks for the assistance all
[08:51] <markelhas> WaltzingAlong, it's a d-link dwl-g650m
[08:56] (Vlet/#ubuntu) mehevi: Oh, you need an on-screen keyboard for it?... interesting. I don't know.
[08:56] (Atalanta/#ubuntu) markelhas: what card? network card? video card? what are you on about
[08:56] (Flare183/#ubuntu) erpie:> then open a terminal and type in: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[08:56] (mehevi/#ubuntu) Vlet yeah having a tabletpc is a bitch, to put it frankly
[08:56] (Flare183/#ubuntu) !language | mehevi
[08:56] (ubotu/#ubuntu) mehevi: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:56] (Atalanta/#ubuntu) Flare183: is Ubuntu 7.10 (assuming i downloaded the unstable version right now) pretty close to what we'd get in 2 days?
[08:56] (markelhas/#ubuntu) Atalanta, pci wifi card D-link dwl-g650m
[08:56] (Atalanta/#ubuntu) ok
[08:56] (erpie/#ubuntu) apt does not work and also synaptic bcuz i have a BIG prob with ethernet
[08:56] (MasterShrek/#ubuntu) Atalanta, pretty much
[08:56] (Flare183/#ubuntu) Atalanta:> yeah
[08:56] (Atalanta/#ubuntu) MasterShrek: thanks a bunch
[08:57] (Vlet/#ubuntu) mehevi: Maybe worth filing as a 'bug'... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[08:57] (markelhas/#ubuntu) I'm really frustated :(
[08:57] <Rich4> What are the key shortcuts for linux? Is there a link, possibly?
[08:57] <Flare183> Atalanta:> but I still am going to wait
[08:57] <Atalanta> Flare183: thanks. and im assuming that any changes that would be important wont be found until a week later anwyay
[08:57] <Flare183> Atalanta:> right
[08:57] <mr_joel> can anyone help me with a "abnormal exit" error concerning installing ubuntu??
[08:57] <Atalanta> Flare183: well im using vmware so ive got naught to lose
[08:57] <Flare183> Atalanta:> lol
[08:57] <Vlet> Rich4: Look at the 'keyboard Shortcuts' control panel
[08:57] <Flare183> Atalanta:> true
[08:58] <mehevi> Vlet if there was a config file I could edit I could hack in fuctionality myself.. I had to with GDM and the Onboard keyboard.  I tried /usr/share/xscreensaver, but that just points to all the screensaver 'hacks'
[08:58] <Atalanta> lol
[08:59] <Atalanta> Flare183: is 7.10 going to improve on x86-64 intel processors like macosx leopard is trying to?
[08:59] <miketalanca> I have a problem concerning the upgrade to 7.10
[08:59] <mr_joel> where can I go for help with boot problems?? no one in the boot room!
[08:59] <mr_joel> problems with booting 7.10
[08:59] <miketalanca> I am using Kubuntu, so I ran the "kdesu adept_updater --version-upgrade" command
[08:59] <Vlet> mehevi: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScreensaver/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#head-5196776d04ed41242da63723d837fa188d57693a
[08:59] <Veinor> !gutsy | mr_joel
[08:59] <ubotu> mr_joel: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:59] <miketalanca> but a bunch of packages failed t0o download
[08:59] <Flare183> Atalanta:> might want to ask that in #ubuntu+1 because my knowlegde is limited
[08:59] <miketalanca> now it's just hanging.
[09:00] <ZeroA4> mr_joel, what problem with boot ? gives any error msg ?
[09:00] <miketalanca> It's been on the same "configuring libslang2" step forever now.
[09:00] <mr_joel> I did that UBOTU!!  it gives me an "abnormal exit" error after in starts the CDROM
[09:00] <dpkk> hello
[09:00] <nanonyme> hey, any ideas if you can do checkinstall succesfully without root?
[09:00] <Flare183> mr_joel:> ubotu is a bot
[09:01] <Flare183> !bot
[09:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:01] <studdock> Is anyone having trouble with audigy gamer cards?
[09:02] <mehevi> Vlet maybe that would work with gnome-screensaver, but I'm using xscreensaver with xfce
[09:02] <mr_marvin> hello. how can i access "permision" tab for folders, if i'm not root?
[09:02] <Vlet> mehevi: ooh yeah
[09:02] <pipegeek> Gogo gadget gibbon
[09:02] <Flare183> !root
[09:02] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:03] <Pici> !gutsy
[09:03] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:03] <mehevi> Vlet I found the man for xscreensaver brb
[09:03] <Veinor> mr_marvin: you mean like in nautilus?
[09:03] <MasterShrek> mr_marvin, you need to use sudo chmod
[09:03] <MasterShrek> !permissions
[09:03] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:03] <mr_joel> I boot up the computer, with Gutsy in...and then it gives me that first boot up menu, I choose install....and then in says "udevd-event[2369] : run_program": '/sbin/mod probe? abnormal exit ..................
[09:03] <studdock> soundblaster audigy
[09:03] <Metal03> Hey there fellows...  I had a sound blaster sound card and apparently it causes some problems with World of Warcraft with wine, so I decided to remove it and go with the on board sound!!  But I think I have to configure the sound of my mother board in order for it to work!!  I'm just not sure how to do this!  Can someone help?
[09:04] <Vlet> mr_joel: What ubotu keeps telling you is that if you have problems with 7.10, you should go to #ubuntu+1 not #ubuntu
[09:04] <MasterShrek> Metal03, do other things' sound work under wine? did you enable alsa in wineconfig?
[09:04] <mr_marvin> Veinor: yes, with nautilus. i'm not very familiar comfortable with chmod yet...
[09:05] <Veinor> mr_marvin: ok, press alt-f2 and then run 'gksu nautilus' (without the quotes). That particular window will then be running as root, so be very careful.
[09:05] <pipegeek> Gots me sum gibbons playing in a sandbox
[09:05] <pipegeek> they seem happy
[09:05] <mr_marvin> Veinor: thank you.
[09:05] <kotau> sup Veinor.
[09:05] <Veinor> hey.
[09:06] <Metal03> MasterShrek: I've tried everything possible to make the sound work under wine with WoW...  but there's a problem with Blizzard new sound management and Sound blaster's cards apparently (on the Creative web site) for now I'm trying to make the sound work from my motherboard!!
[09:06] <kotau> Veinor my fps went up to 28 with xfce instead of gnome-desktop
[09:07] <MasterShrek> Metal03, does the soudn work outside of wine?
[09:07] <Metal03> MasterShrek : Nope
[09:07] <MasterShrek> Metal03, lsmod | grep snd
[09:07] <Vlet> Metal03: I gave up trying to play via wine... wow is the only reason I still keep a little partition with windows on it :)
[09:07] <MasterShrek> Vlet, i used to run wow under wine just fine
[09:08] <Metal03> It works fine...  well it did b4 patch 2.2...  now it still works but I have no sound!
[09:08] <jefones> Hi all
[09:08] <mr_joel> so....no ideas on boot errors?
[09:08] <jefones> The notebook Dell Vostro 1000 is 100% compatible with ubuntu?
[09:08] <Vlet> MasterShrek: /me is on an ati card, and it just doesn't run as well as in windows... I don't care enough to fix/solve that problem :)
[09:09] <MasterShrek> jefones, http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[09:09] <Metal03> MasterShrek: http://pastebin.com/m6bbbd2a5
[09:09] <Druidikus> Hi, i need help with gnome and compiz. Where to ask?
[09:09] <MasterShrek> Vlet, yea i spose on an ati card it could be painful lol
[09:09] <MasterShrek> #ubuntu-effects Druidikus
[09:09] <jefones> MasterShrek, thanks
[09:09] <Druidikus> thx :)
[09:10] <MasterShrek> Metal03, it looks like its loading your sound card's drivers, are you sure your not muted?
[09:10] <kuli> When I mount fat32 disk I need to enter password. I would like to disable that.
[09:12] <Metal03> MasterShrek: I used to have a SoundBlaster card that was working and I decided to shutdown my computer, remove the card and reboot!!  Is it possible that Ubuntu is still loading the drivers from my SoundBlaster card?
[09:12] <MasterShrek> Metal03, it doesnt look like a soundblaster card though
[09:12] <heterodox> kuli, add your user to the group of the /dev/ entry and make it group rwx
[09:12] <MasterShrek> Metal03, lsmod | grep Audio
[09:13] <kotau> Vlet the 'no lock screen after hibernate' is a setting in /etc/default/acpi-support
[09:13] <Metal03> MasterShrek: Done, didn't return anything though!
[09:13] <MasterShrek> Metal03, hrm...
[09:14] <MasterShrek> lshw | grep Audio
[09:14] <mr_marvin> uduntu does not see 2 ntfs partitions on my secondary (slave) data when i type "fdisk -l". it sees one drive only ("Disk /dev/sdb: 250.0 GB")
[09:15] <Metal03> MasterShrek : WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
[09:15] <MasterShrek> thats it Metal03 ?
[09:15] <Metal03> ya
[09:15] <studdock> I have a soundblaster Audigy Gamer; the driver is loaded, but there is no sound
[09:15] <`Matir> mr_marvin, that seems to be your slave drive
[09:16] <MasterShrek> hrm Metal03 it doesnt look like its seeing your card at all...you may need to slap that soundblaster card back in
[09:16] <CommanderCool> after having booted windows (xp) my linux network dont work until i boot from boot-cd
[09:17] <_Lucretia_> is there a gcc/gnat 4.2.x for feisty?
[09:17] <admiralsausage> Hi folks... I'm going to ditch Mandriva Cooker for Gutsy on Thursday. Does anyone know the Ubuntu equivalent of Cooker (ie regularly update to stay on the bleeding edge, reporting bugs etc)
[09:17] <Metal03> MasterShrek: Well I have no card, I'm just trying to use the sound from the motherboard!!  Is there a way to configure that?  I have a pretty standard motherboard I'm sure Asus A8N
[09:18] <Zergiu> Hello , can someone tell me how to install rar on 6.06
[09:18] <studdock> Metal03, is onboard sound enabled in the bios?
[09:18] <MasterShrek> Metal03, it should automatically pick it up, maybe issue these two commands: dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base   and    dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils
[09:18] <kevsthabest> update-initramfs is searching for a initrd.img that doesnt exist anymore.. wheres the file i need to edit to take it out?
[09:18] <mr_marvin> `Matir: it is. i mount it as ntfs, i mount it with "/dev/sdb1 /media/wine ntfs-3g ". is that ok?
[09:18] <kevsthabest> or actually how would i go about to fix it
[09:19] <CommanderCool> after having booted windows (xp) my linux network dont work until i boot from boot cd. ideas, anyone?
[09:19] <eddie84> hi all
[09:19] <Cidan> Can you burn the 7.10 RC1 release onto a DVD?
[09:19] <Cidan> Or will it fail?
[09:19] <Metal03> MasterShrek : I'll check what studdock suggested, then I'll try your suggestions...  brb
[09:20] <FFF> can i block someone on ssh that has more then 3 bad attempts?
[09:20] <studdock> <--- Noob, how do I log on as root?
[09:20] <genii> mr_marvin: You need a -t before FS type there
[09:20] <FFF2432> studdock, sudo -i
[09:20] <studdock> thanks, FFF
[09:20] <Pici> !root | studdock
[09:20] <ubotu> studdock: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:20] <Alan> could anybody recommend which internal laptop wifi chipset I should go for??
[09:20] <MrPink> is there a way to access files saved under ubuntu (ext3) via Wiinblows ?
[09:21] <`Matir> mr_marvin, it would be ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/wine
[09:21] <genii> Alan: Anything but Broadcom
[09:21] <WaltzingAlong> !info gnash
[09:21] <ubotu> gnash: free Flash movie player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1ubuntu0.1 (feisty), package size 117 kB, installed size 216 kB
[09:21] <emet> hello
[09:21] <emet> is it true that they *drink* Ubuntu in the congo?
[09:21] <mr_marvin> genii: i'm confused... why win sees 2 partitions, and ubuntu none?
[09:22] <Alan> genii, heh, i know that one - my bcm4309 seems to be the only bcm43xx that ndiswrapper doesn't like
[09:22] <CommanderCool> after having booted windows (xp) my linux network does not work until i boot from boot cd. ideas, anyone?
[09:22] <MasterShrek> Alan, have you tried using the kernel module?
[09:22] <Alan> genii, I meant more, what is both compatible AND good
[09:22] <Alan> MasterShrek, 802.11b only
[09:22] <Cidan> When I boot RC1 off of a DVD (amd64) I get nothing but a blank screen.  No DVD reading, nothing.  I select Start or Install, and then... nothing.  Tried safe mode, nothing.
[09:22] <mnemo> can anyone recommend a good GUI app for doing SCP file transfers?
[09:22] <genii> mr_marvin: No idea of the partition inconsistency
[09:23] <Alan> i really need g support
[09:23] <Fat_Ferret> Pici: cant studdock just "sudo -su "
[09:23] <Fat_Ferret> that would give a root terminal
[09:23] <studdock> sudo -i worked
[09:23] <Pici> Fat_Ferret: sudo su is not suggested, sudo -i sets up the environment variables correctly.
[09:23] <Alan> at the moment i've swapped it for an atheros i had, but that thing is lacking in power/sensitivity
[09:23] <Fat_Ferret> what exactly is the -i varible?
[09:23] <MasterShrek> what is only 802.11b?
[09:24] <Fat_Ferret> nvm checking the man page
[09:24] <Alan> MasterShrek, wireless B - only goes up to 11mbit
[09:24] <Alan> MasterShrek, bcm43xx kernel module doesn't appear to support g
[09:24] <MasterShrek> Alan, you are in feisty i assume?
[09:25] <Alan> MasterShrek, yes
[09:25] <MasterShrek> mines at 54mbit in gutsy
[09:25] <genii> Alan:Generally for linux, Intel and Atheros wifi chipsets are well supported
[09:25] <Alan> MasterShrek, what model do you have?
[09:25] <MasterShrek> 4311
[09:25] <Alan> right
[09:26] <Fat_Ferret> Pici: thankyou I learned something new today.
[09:26] <unagi> will gutsy automatically be loaded with the updates?
[09:26] <MasterShrek> unagi, what updates?
[09:26] <unagi> automatic updates
[09:27] <Alan> MasterShrek, i have a 4309, and its so bad it makes ndiswrapper panic my kernel when i try and load it...  the closest bcm43xx + fwcutter gets me a 4306 driver
[09:27] <Pici> unagi: no, you will need to do some manual steps to initiate the upgrade.
[09:27] <Alan> MasterShrek, and i can't get g from it...
[09:27] <unagi> is the upgrade from feisty painless?
[09:27] <gianluca> hi guy some can tell me how to add in favourite a channel?
[09:27] <Alan> so... I'm considering buying something new
[09:27] <MasterShrek> Alan, i think u need a newer kernel, when and if you upgrade to gutsy you shold be in better shape
[09:28] <MasterShrek> unagi, theoretically
[09:28] <panfist> hello can anyone help me with my wireless card for my laptop...it was working just fine then i booted up today and it won't show up in the GUI network tool, or in ifconfig or iwconfig in the terminal. from the help documentation i tried doing "sudo lshw -C network" and it is there, but the documentation doesn't tell you what to do after that
[09:28] <Alan> MasterShrek, newer kernel? why?
[09:28] <Vlet> unagi: no, and yes. It will not automatically upgrade; you will need to manually: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:28] <MasterShrek> panfist, give me the output of: lspci | grep Network
[09:28] <gianluca> !anyone
[09:28] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:28] <MasterShrek> Alan, new kernel, newer bcm43xx driver
[09:28] <Alan> MasterShrek, same firmware though....
[09:28] <Alan> heh
[09:28] <MasterShrek> Alan, mine was at 11mbits in feisty, and 54mbits in gutsy
[09:29] <unagi> so its somewhat possible that upgrading will cripple my system
[09:29] <panfist> mastershrek: there is no output
[09:29] <Alan> MasterShrek, oh, i see....  I'll try that then!
[09:29] <MasterShrek> unagi, its somewhat possible, but itll probably be ok
[09:29] <Alan> MasterShrek, is it safe to upgrade to the RC yet?
[09:29] <unagi> k
[09:29] <Metal03> MasterShrek: It wasn'T activated in Bios...  now the sound works in Ubuntu...  but WoW still has no sound!!!  :(
[09:29] <unagi> 2 more days right?
[09:29] <Alan> how buggy is the RC?
[09:29] <MasterShrek> panfist, really? did u type Network, case sensitive?
[09:29] <[chr0n0s] > 1 more day.. damnit
[09:29] <MasterShrek> Alan, it runs fine
[09:30] <[chr0n0s] > hey MasterShrek
[09:30] <fevel> fine here 2
[09:30] <MasterShrek> sup [chr0n0s] 
[09:30] <MasterShrek> Metal03, do other wine programs have sound?
[09:30] <panfist> mastershrek yes i tried both. i've even enabled my hardwired ethernet now and the output is still nothing...
[09:30] <fevel> I upgraded today
[09:30] <Alan> MasterShrek, if i have the opportunity, am i better off doing a clean install of gutsy?
[09:30] <Alan> rather than an upgrade?
[09:30] <fevel> I think the servers will be overloaded on the release day
[09:30] <MasterShrek> panfist, pastebin the output of: lspci -vv
[09:31] <Metal03> MasterShrek: Lemme triple verify, but I use Ventrilo on wine and it works fine!
[09:31] <[chr0n0s] > fevel : i think you can got the torrent
[09:31] <MasterShrek> fevel, youre probably right
[09:31] <[chr0n0s] > get*
[09:31] <fevel> im not getting the iso
[09:31] <[chr0n0s] > torrents rock
[09:31] <fevel> im upgrading
[09:31] <[chr0n0s] > then what are you getting ?
[09:31] <[chr0n0s] > k
[09:32] <MasterShrek> i reinstalled from the rc
[09:32] <[chr0n0s] > i am better off to new install, present install is rigged
[09:32] <fevel> thats why I chose to upgrade to rc today
[09:32] <MasterShrek> i needed to make a bigger partition anyways
[09:32] <fevel> and apply patches later
[09:32] <[chr0n0s] > fevel : wait 1 more day
[09:32] <geefinator> yeah i am in the middle of upgrading right now.
[09:32] <fevel> i have already done that
[09:33] <fevel> like I said
[09:33] <fevel> in one day servers will be full
[09:33] <fevel> last time I had to wait in line :P
[09:33] <fevel> u seeeeee...a lot of people like ubuntu
[09:33] <geefinator> fevel: thats my motivation too :P
[09:33] <Alan> MasterShrek, ... i can only find DVDs for the RC...
[09:34] <panfist> mastershrek http://pastebin.com/d2582d20f
[09:34] <MasterShrek> Alan, check other mirrors, i dont rememebr where i got it but i found a cd
[09:34] <Metal03> MasterShrek : Ya, other wine programs have sound
[09:34] <fevel> geefinator, I had no problems
[09:34] <fevel> geefinator, and I had a lot of third party apps
[09:35] <fevel> I disabled the repositories for them
[09:35] <MasterShrek> panfist, weird, i dont see it there at all, are you on feisty?
[09:35] <heavenquake> is FUSE included in the standard Ubuntu Linux Kernel?
[09:35] <fevel> although other people might not be that lucky
[09:35] <Cidan> dlfjslfj.  Okay, booting the 7.10 RC1 ISO, blank screen and nothing else.  Any ideas anyone?
[09:35] <MasterShrek> heavenquake, i believe so
[09:35] <MasterShrek> Cidan, safe graphics mode?
[09:35] <Cidan> Tried it.
[09:36] <Cidan> also, this is the amd64 ISO burned onto a DVD and not a CD.
[09:36] <dgjones> !beta
[09:36] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) Release Candidate information and release notes can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - The RC is development software and as such unstable, support *ONLY* in #ubuntu+1
[09:36] <Cidan> oh
[09:36] <Cidan> :D
[09:36] <kyleBAKED> i have a digital keyboard, a yamaha ypg-625, is has a usb output to connect to a pc but the drivers included are only for windows, does anyone know what software or drivers i can use?
[09:36] <MasterShrek> Metal03, i dont know why wow wouldnt have sound then, is it some option in the program somewhere?
[09:37] <Metal03> MasterShrek: It used to not detect any sound device I think...  but I'll verify that AGAIN!!  hehehe
[09:37] <Metal03> brb
[09:37] <panfist> mastershrek actually im on 7.10 release candidate, but my card was definitely working after i upgraded, and rebooted a few times. just not today...
[09:38] <MasterShrek> panfist, i relaly have no idea then, do u konw what kinda card it is?
[09:39] <unagi> is bluetooth better supported in 7.1
[09:39] <MasterShrek> 7.10* as in 2007 - October
[09:39] <Metal03> MasterShrek : Ya...  it's like WoW doesn't see any sound devices...  when I go into the menu, the "sound input" is greyed out!
[09:39] <reber> hi all
[09:39] <MasterShrek> i dunno what to tell ya Metal03
[09:39] <MasterShrek> i gotta run tho, gotta go to class
[09:40] <panfist> mastershrek siemens speedstream ss1021 ... i installed it when i was running 7.04 and all i had to do was plug it in and it worked
[09:40] <MasterShrek> later every1
[09:40] <Metal03> MasterShrek: Alright...  thanks anyways!!
[09:40] <Basem> can i run my webcam on gaim?
[09:40] <reber> is it the same : installing gutsy now than upgrade, or install gutsy in 2 days ?
[09:40] <zxxx> why my shell is empty,when I enable GL desktop
[09:40] <dimeo> wow.  I think my domain has blocked port 6667...it wouldn't work I tried 8000 instead...it works?
[09:40] <MasterShrek> panfist, well, thats weird, make sure you have linux-modules packages installed for your running kernel
[09:40] <MasterShrek> later every1
[09:40] <Sergo> hello
[09:40] <fevel> Metal03, try removing the sound card, booting up, then reinstalling it , and booting up again
[09:41] <Sergo> how to copy an file name that contain an space?
[09:41] <Sergo> like : New File
[09:41] <fevel> Sergo, renaming it is one way
[09:41] <kevsthabest> new/ \file or something like that...
[09:41] <Burlynn> Sergo, put "New File"
[09:41] <Burlynn> qoutations around the name
[09:41] <dimeo> anyone know how to change the font size in xterm?
[09:42] <jinn> hello,anyboy here?
[09:42] <Sergo> Burlynn thanks, it works=] 
[09:42] <dimeo> howdy jinn
[09:42] <Burlynn> np
[09:43] <zxxx> ubuntu-cn 
[09:43] <jinn> what client you use to join this irc?
[09:43] <jinn> 
[09:43] <dimeo> I'm using irssi right now
[09:43] <geefinator> dimeo: Edit -> Preferences > Appearance
[09:43] <unagi> no......no one is here
[09:43] <unagi> we are all bots
[09:43] <NeoGeo64> lol chinese characters
[09:43] <dimeo> unagi is the master bot of the hive
[09:43] <freeman163> whoah
[09:43] <NeoGeo64> i remember when mirc would just display them as ?????? ???? ????
[09:43] <NeoGeo64> lol
[09:43] <Basem> hello
[09:43] <freeman163> i didnt know ubuntu supported asian fonts
[09:43] <Basem> can i use webcam on gaim?
[09:44] <jinn> I use xchat
[09:44] <zxxx>  enable GL DESKTOP ,
[09:44] <unagi> webcams are tricky on ubuntu
[09:44] <jinn> but it doesn't work well
[09:44] <[chr0n0s] > jinn : so what is the problem exactly ?
[09:44] <studdock> Ha, my SB audigy wasn't working because I had digital out enabled on alsamixer
[09:44] <NeoGeo64> two more days until 7.10! can you feel the excitement?
[09:45] <freeman163> yeah, i can
[09:45] <[chr0n0s] > NeoGeo64 : 1 more day
[09:45] <studdock> if you have sound problems, try fiddling with alsamixer
[09:45] <[chr0n0s] > it's 17th Oct already
[09:45] <freeman163> it's probably the only thing thatll fix this problem, actually
[09:45] <Sergo> Burlynn, but in this case, cp sergiu /media/"New Volume"/ ...
[09:45] <fevel> nope
[09:45] <unagi> im not really excited at the moment
[09:45] <fevel> its 16
[09:45] <Sergo> doesn't work
[09:45] <fevel> 37 hours actually
[09:45] <unagi> unless webcams bluetooth tv tuners and the network monitor are better
[09:45] <[chr0n0s] > fevel : 17 it is..
[09:45] <unagi> then ill be excited
[09:46] <[chr0n0s] > time is 01:15 Oct 17
[09:46] <fevel> ok then [chr0n0s]  , no need to argue since you manipulate time and space
[09:46] <jinn> where are you?
[09:46] <studdock> Does anyone know how to change the settings on a video card?
[09:46] <unagi> 01:15?
[09:46] <Burlynn> Sergo, try typing the New with no qoutes and hitting tab to finish the name
[09:46] <unagi> interesting
[09:46] <[chr0n0s] > india/asia
[09:46] <SkinnyPuppy34> Will there be any difference b/t the gutsy tribe updating or a new fresh install after release?
[09:46] <jinn> china
[09:46] <freeman163> that might be why
[09:46] <fevel> ooooooooooooooooooooooh
[09:46] <unagi> i didnt know there were time zones .5 hour off
[09:47] <fevel> unagi, there are 24 hour ones
[09:47] <fevel> oops
[09:47] <fevel> 12
[09:47] <Burlynn> Sergo, either that or put the qoutes around the whole path instead of just New Volume
[09:47] <Sergo> doesn't work..
[09:47] <Sergo> ok
[09:47] <Sergo> let's try
[09:47] <unagi> what do you mean 12 hour ones
[09:47] <erpie> just question, after suggestion on this channel iv finnaly strated to install java jre now the console display the license to accept but i cant click or select a butto to accept it, what i wrong?
[09:47] <fevel> nevermind
[09:47] <unagi> there are 24 one hour off time zones i know..........but here in hawaii it is 9:45
[09:47] <[chr0n0s] > erpie : try using TAB key
[09:47] <unagi> he said it was 01:15
[09:48] <erpie> thx crr0n0s
[09:48] <[chr0n0s] > 01:17 AM now
[09:48] <unagi> so therefore whatever time zone he is in is x and 1 half hour off
[09:48] <NeoGeo64> two more days until 7.10! can you feel the excitement?
[09:48] <erpie> thx a lot it work
[09:48] <unagi> im marveled at the half hour
[09:48] <[chr0n0s] > i think timezones are 0.5 hours apart
[09:48] <unagi> no
[09:48] <NeoGeo64> now when they say ubuntu will be released on october 18
[09:48] <unagi> timezones typically are 1 hour apart
[09:48] <NeoGeo64> which time zone
[09:48] <[chr0n0s] > NeoGeo64 : any two adjacent timezones
[09:48] <fevel> good question NeoGeo64
[09:49] <unagi> NeoGeo64: maybe africa?
[09:49] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, GMT, but [chr0n0s]  is right too.
[09:49] <kbrooks> actually it depends
[09:49] <fevel> LOL
[09:49] <[chr0n0s] > depends on ?
[09:49] <NeoGeo64> Will it be a single cd image?
[09:49] <dwxreaper> i like to type sudo su, so i dont have to keep entering my password
[09:49] <fevel> people are like........so expectating
[09:49] <NeoGeo64> i dont have a dvd burner
[09:49] <dwxreaper> how do i do that from within gnome
[09:49] <youknowme> I'm trying to use vncviewer, and I'm connected to a router so me speed should 10/100Mb/s. But when using vnc its kinda sluggish, small changes refresh somewhat fast but if the whole screen changes it takes a second or two receive the data for the new image. My network usage only come up to about 1.5Mb/s.
[09:49] <youknowme> Help?
[09:50] <psusi> dwxreaper: then use sudo -s instead of sudo su
[09:50] <dwxreaper> youknowme: vnc sucks, use freenx
[09:50] <NeoGeo64> also, how long will it take me to download the ubuntu ISO on 56k?
[09:50] <kbrooks> youknowme, umm.
[09:50] <fevel> pretty long
[09:50] <minus> NeoGeo64, Forever?
[09:50] <fevel> id order a cd
[09:50] <NeoGeo64> cds take too long!
[09:50] <dwxreaper> psusi: does not work i am in gnome
[09:50] <minus> id to as favel
[09:50] <NeoGeo64> i ordered one in februrary it came in august!
[09:50] <fevel> not longer than you will
[09:50] <minus> fevel, *
[09:50] <psusi> leaving a download go all night while you sleep is better than waiting weeks for a cd in the mail
[09:50] <youknowme> dwxreaper, freenx? is it in add/remove?
[09:50] <Rich4> I need help.
[09:50] <freeman163> quite a while : x
[09:51] <NeoGeo64> and bthe cds were scratched!
[09:51] <[chr0n0s] > about 30 hours in a 56kbps lines
[09:51] <NeoGeo64> because apparently customs opened it up!
[09:51] <minus> youknowme, sudo apt-get install freenx
[09:51] <kbrooks> youknowme, it's EITHER 10 or 100 Mb/s. and that number means THEORETICAL network speed. things can change: latency, etc.
[09:51] <NeoGeo64> so i complained to customs
[09:51] <NeoGeo64> and they didnt do anything
[09:51] <Rich4> Does anyone know how I can re-enable the drag-to-workspace feature?
[09:51] <Odd-rationale> NeoGeo64: Have you considered UNetbootin? http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[09:51] <[chr0n0s] > NeoGeo64 : the custom ppl scratched it ;)
[09:51] <unagi> lol @ 100mbps
[09:51] <unagi> i wish
[09:51] <dwxreaper> youknowme: you have to download it, vnc isn't the best as far as being reponsive
[09:52] <dwxreaper> even with the right setting there's still a couple hundred milliseconds latency
[09:52] <NeoGeo64> the cd wouldnt boot at first
[09:52] <Rich4> Where I drag a window by a side to switch it to that workspace?
[09:52] <NeoGeo64> i had to use a cd scratch fixer
[09:52] <Sergo> umount: /media/New Volume is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[09:52] <NeoGeo64> then it worked
[09:52] <fevel> yeah cuz if hes connecting 56k we assume he will transfer at full speed
[09:52] <kbrooks> !enter | NeoGeo64
[09:52] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:52] <fevel> which he wont
[09:52] <Sergo> question: may i add the volume to fstab?
[09:52] <dwxreaper> i like to type sudo su, so i dont have to keep entering my password
[09:52] <Sergo> =] 
[09:52] <dwxreaper> how do i do that from within gnome
[09:52] <NeoGeo64> i get about 6/k sec transfer rate on my line
[09:52] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, one line please, that's extremely annoying.
[09:52] <youknowme> minus, "E: Couldn't find package freenx"
[09:52] <Basem> how can i install wine?
[09:52] <[chr0n0s] > dwxreaper  why you want to be root ?
[09:52] <unagi> ntfs-3g wont mount my vista partition
[09:52] <unagi> dammit
[09:52] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, er, not is, "was"
[09:52] <eulogy_> Anyone here use Cedega?
[09:53] <Odd-rationale> NeoGeo64: With UNetbootin, you can install ubuntu with only internet connection.
[09:53] <NeoGeo64> i am sorry i will type more in one line
[09:53] <ipx__> unagi: what error?
[09:53] <youknowme> dwxreeper, ok, I'll check they're site
[09:53] <unagi> no error
[09:53] <Basem> how can i install wine?
[09:53] <unagi> it just doesnt mount it or let me write to it
[09:53] <[chr0n0s] > NeoGeo64 : calculate 700*1027/6*3600 = number of minutes you will need
[09:53] <ipx__> unagi: you closed vista propertly?
[09:53] <fevel> Basem, sudo apt-get install wine
[09:53] <kbrooks> [chr0n0s] , huh? what's that?
[09:53] <[chr0n0s] > hours8
[09:53] <[chr0n0s] > hours*
[09:53] <unagi> yea
[09:53] <ipx__> not pushing any buttons or shutting down since it hung up or something?
[09:53] <Basem> how can i install wine?
[09:53] <fevel> Basem, or use the package manager
[09:53] <ipx__> weird. What are you typing to mount it?
[09:54] <[chr0n0s] > time taken for 700MB image, dowloaded at 6kbps
[09:54] <NeoGeo64> Hmm..  I may try and download it at my college they have a 15MBps internet connect
[09:54] <Skuldo> hey, wondering how long it takes for the partition stage of installing ubu as a dual-boot with windows takes for a 250gb drive
[09:54] <MrPink> I have a problem: I am trying to access my linux partitions via windows... I've tried 2 different applications that clame to do so... but both of them fail to show my "userdirectory" one of them says the file is damaged and the other views the folder as a file... any ideas?
[09:54] <kbrooks> [chr0n0s] , 1027 as in what? :)
[09:54] <MrPink> any ideas how to access my user folders and the files inside?
[09:54] <NeoGeo64> Odd-rationale: website?
[09:54] <fevel> MrPink, yeah...stick to linux
[09:54] <[chr0n0s] > err.. 1024 ;)
[09:54] <fevel> =P
[09:54] <freeman163> go on linux : D
[09:55] <MrPink> fevel: I will and I do... I am more curious than anything ;)
[09:55] <freeman163> it can recognize both : p
[09:55] <Rich4> I need help--I can't drag across workspaces anymore
[09:55] <kbrooks> [chr0n0s] , oh, 1024 kb
[09:55] <[chr0n0s] > my bad..
[09:55] <NeoGeo64> hehe [chr0n0s] , you math genuis
[09:55] <Odd-rationale> NeoGeo64: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[09:55] <kbrooks> ack, 33 hours
[09:55] <fuzzy> anyone around a udev guru i'm noticing that the /dev/disk/* are symlinks to the dev/sd* block devices, and I would like udev to either map it the other way around or make block devices out of the the /dev/disk entries, anyone have a solution?
[09:55] <[chr0n0s] > 700*1024/6*3600 it is :)
[09:55] <kbrooks> that's incredibly long
[09:55] <MrPink> fevel: I was just trying to play a video file in windows
[09:55] <fevel> MrPink, heheheh...I dont know man...I once had those problems too
[09:55] <[chr0n0s] > that indeed is
[09:55] <NeoGeo64> 33 hours is a very long time. i cant stay connected more than a few hours before the connection degrades and boots me off.
[09:55] <tronyx> can anyone help me figure out how to get my NTFS partition to mount every time ubuntu starts?  it did on my last install though it appears not to anymore
[09:55] <fevel> MrPink, I mounted windows on linux and put the file on my documents
[09:56] <kbrooks> [chr0n0s] , i just plugged in 80, and it gives me 2 hours.
[09:56] <[chr0n0s] > tronyx : it's in your etc/fstab
[09:56] <Basem> Reading package lists... Done
[09:56] <Basem> Building dependency tree
[09:56] <Basem> Reading state information... Done
[09:56] <Basem> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:56] <Basem> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:56] <Basem> is only available from another source
[09:56] <Basem> E: Package wine has no installation candidat
[09:56] <[chr0n0s] > kbrooks ? 80kBps ?
[09:56] <Znuffie> Basem, what are you trying to install?
[09:56] <fevel> MrPink, of course youll need the ntfs-3g drivers installed
[09:56] <luca> hi everyone
[09:56] <Basem> wine
[09:56] <NeoGeo64> Znuffie: It would appear he is trying to install wine. lol
[09:57] <jinn> anybody use cedega?
[09:57] <kbrooks> [chr0n0s] , i'm only estimating my connection. yes 80 kB/s
[09:57] <luca> can someone help me please? I have watchdog running....but watchdog is NOT installed on my box!
[09:57] <tronyx> [chr0n0s] , there is nothing in my fstab about an ntfs partition
[09:57] <eulogy_> I have Cedega but I have trouble with it myself
[09:57] <fevel> nice pasting Basem, and thanks for the lag
[09:57] <Znuffie> Basem, did you enable universe, multiverse etc.?
[09:57] <kbrooks> [chr0n0s] , but that is _only an estimate_.
[09:57] <Basem> how can i enable it?
[09:57] <jinn> me too,I think it not support widescreen
[09:57] <eulogy_> Yes, I'm running it on wide also.
[09:57] <tronyx> if i try sudo mound /dev/hda1 it tells me that it doesn't see it, but if i go to a file navigator, the partition is listed as 'disk' and i can browse it
[09:57] <[chr0n0s] > kbrooks : good luck with download then.. i am stuck with low speeds anyways.. might opt for torrents
[09:58] <Znuffie> |multiverse
[09:58] <eulogy_> Does your screen mess up when you try to play the game?
[09:58] <Znuffie> what's the control char for the bot?
[09:58] <Znuffie> @multiverse
[09:58] <Znuffie> ?multiverse
[09:58] <Basem> yes
[09:58] <Znuffie> bottiger, help
[09:58] <Basem> how can i enable it
[09:58] <[chr0n0s] > tronyx : can i get output of these 2 things.. sudo fdisk -l
[09:58] <[chr0n0s] > and your fstab ?
[09:58] <tronyx> can i PM them to you please?
[09:58] <[chr0n0s] > paste in the bin
[09:59] <[chr0n0s] > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:59] <jinn> when I use it to run starcraft,I can't see the button of the picture
[09:59] <Basem> ????
[09:59] <fevel> Basem, try system--->administration------->package manager
[09:59] <Basem> how can i install wine?
[09:59] <tronyx> http://pastebin.com/m708bbc4d
[09:59] <kbrooks> Basem, we are helping you.
[09:59] <jinn> sudo apt-get install wine
[09:59] <eulogy_> sudo apt-get install wine
[09:59] <Znuffie> Basem, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[09:59] <fevel> stop annoying man
[09:59] <eulogy_> ah you beat me
[10:00] <[chr0n0s] > i am pretty sure now.. the timezones are 30 minutes apart --> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
[10:00] <Basem> i have only Keyring Manager
[10:00] <Znuffie> Basem, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine?highlight=(Wine)
[10:00] <fevel> then enter kubuntu channel
[10:00] <Basem> i cant find package manager in the administrator
[10:01] <Znuffie> Basem, search better.
[10:01] <jinn> 
[10:01] <fevel> Basem is probably not using ubuntu
[10:01] <kbrooks> [chr0n0s] , no, 30 and 60 minutes apart.
[10:01] <[chr0n0s] > 30+30 is 60 :S
[10:02] <[chr0n0s] > kkk..
[10:02] <[chr0n0s] > got an example for 60 also
[10:02] <Basem> i'm man
[10:02] <Basem> but useing it live
[10:02] <Znuffie> Install it.
[10:02] <Basem> i find synaptic package manger
[10:02] <eulogy_> ..
[10:02] <winge-d_angel> how do i take away the annoying start up sounds that ubuntu uses when logging into gdm?
[10:02] <Znuffie> Dude. Install it.
[10:02] <fevel> then why would you install wine?
[10:02] <Basem> but i cant find wine in it
[10:02] <Basem> dos it have another name?
[10:02] <Znuffie> ARE YOU A IDIOT OR WHAT?
[10:03] <eulogy_> You have to install it dude.
[10:03] <winge-d_angel> Znuffie, chill...
[10:03] <freeman163> search for wine
[10:03] <arrow> I'm trying to stream videos from my computer to my tv.  I'm using an "S Video" cable for vide and a head phone jack to av adapter for video.  I get sound but no video, is there anything that I have to do in Ubuntu to make video work?
[10:03] <eulogy_> Live is for testing it out to see if you like it.
[10:03] <eulogy_> Chill Znuf.
[10:03] <fevel> Znuffie, calm down...LOL hes probably a noobie window dude
[10:03] <Znuffie> He can't search for the damn software because he hasn't got the Universe repository enabled.
[10:03] <Basem> dos it have diffrent name?
[10:03] <fevel> i know
[10:03] <juntistik> hello everyone :)
[10:03] <freeman163> ah
[10:03] <eulogy_> Hello Jun
[10:03] <fevel> and after he installs
[10:04] <winge-d_angel> fevel, lol calling him a noob is more offensive to him then calling him an idiot, if he doesnt know what a noob is
[10:04] <Znuffie> Basem, install it.
[10:04] <fevel> he wont do anthing with it
[10:04] <[chr0n0s] > Znuffie : he probably doesn't even know what a repo is
[10:04] <Basem> how man
[10:04] <dwxreaper> i go to save a file with gedit, and i can't because i am not root, but in terminal i can type sudo gedit
[10:04] <tronyx> [chr0n0s]  did you see my pastebin?
[10:04] <Basem> how can i install it?
[10:04] <dwxreaper> or sudo su, what do i do
[10:04] <Znuffie> Basem, you click the "Install" icon.
[10:04] <[chr0n0s] > tronyx : you haven't given me the links
[10:04] <fevel> winge-d_angel, lol...I meant no offense
[10:04] <Basem> oh i wont to install it now man
[10:04] <tronyx> http://pastebin.com/m708bbc4d
[10:04] <winge-d_angel> fevel, hehe i know :-)
[10:04] <Basem> i'll be mass in it
[10:04] <arrow> Basem, is this what your looking for?
[10:04] <arrow> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_and_run_Wine_.28Open_Source_version_of_CrossOver_Linux.29
[10:04] <Basem> i need to used on it first
[10:05] <Znuffie> Basem, INSTALL ubuntu.
[10:05] <Basem> and solve the problem i find before i change to it
[10:05] <fevel> Basem, you need to install it in your harddisk
[10:05] <Znuffie> Basem, is your iq lower than 10?
[10:05] <Basem> mmmm
[10:05] <Znuffie> Basem, in order to install WINE on UBUNTU you FIRST have to INSTALL UBUNTU.
[10:05] <fevel> Basem, or even if you install wine...how would you run anything?
[10:05] <winge-d_angel> Znuffie, you better stop... its getting annoying
[10:05] <Basem> ok listen
[10:05] <Burlynn> your not going to be able to run wine off the livecd
[10:05] <Basem> i have only 2 partion
[10:05] <Basem> 1 for windows
[10:05] <Basem> and the other for my data
[10:05] <Basem> so if i install it to the windows
[10:06] <freeman163> you can make new partitions...
[10:06] <winge-d_angel> Znuffie, maybe he doesnt even speak english as a first lang... be considerate
[10:06] <Basem> is it gonna remove all of it or what?
[10:06] <arrow> has anyone ever streamed video from their computer to their television?
[10:06] <fevel> Basem, you should probably study a little bit more since you have issues
[10:06] <freeman163> yes, it would remove windows, but you can add more partitions without damaging windows
[10:06] <Basem> man
[10:06] <Basem> only one question
[10:06] <fevel> study partitioning and dual boot
[10:06] <freeman163> the tool is buit into the installer actually
[10:06] <Basem> if i install it on the windows partion
[10:06] <Znuffie> Basem, you have a setup in your LANGUAGE.
[10:06] <Basem> will the windows be ok
[10:06] <erUSUL> Basem: 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[10:06] <Basem> or the ubutnu gonna format the hwole drive?
[10:07] <eulogy_> He cannot install erUSUL.
[10:07] <erUSUL> Basem: if you have enough ram you will be able to lounch it
[10:07] <Odd-rationale> Basem: Do you have Ubuntu installed anywhere on your hard drive?
[10:07] <freeman163> Basem,  you can create a new partition. anything on that partition wont affect windows
[10:07] <fevel> Basem, now thats a not very smart question since ubuntu is an operating system like windows
[10:07] <mr_marvin> what is /dev/sdb1p1, /dev/sdb1p2 in linux?
[10:07] <erUSUL> eulogy_: dosen't have internet?
[10:07] <eulogy_> He doesn't have Ubuntu installed.
[10:07] <Basem> no
[10:07] <Basem> i run it from life cd
[10:07] <Burlynn> you cant run wine off the livecd, period. you would have to install it
[10:07] <Znuffie> mr_marvin, probably /dev/sdb2
[10:07] <eulogy_> He's running live.
[10:07] <erUSUL> eulogy_: you can install things on the livecd
[10:07] <Oli``> How can I install RubyGTK?
[10:07] <fevel> Basem, make backup, and format your harddisk
[10:08] <fevel> Basem, then install ubuntu throug the live cd
[10:08] <Basem> oh man
[10:08] <Mr_Awesome> how can i uninstall a .deb package that i installed with gdebi?
[10:08] <erUSUL> eulogy_: it will be installed in the ramfs
[10:08] <Odd-rationale> Basem: If you would like to try it with out any partitioning, use Wubi: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[10:08] <Basem> i cant format
[10:08] <winge-d_angel> how do i take away the annoying start up sounds that ubuntu uses when logging into gdm?
[10:08] <[chr0n0s] > tronyx : sorry, i lost the track, what are we solving here.. you DON't want your NTFS hard disk partition to be mounted ?
[10:08] <Basem> listen to me
[10:08] <erUSUL> Mr_Awesome: dpkr --remove package
[10:08] <fevel> Basem, r study what I told ou above, you decide
[10:08] <Znuffie> Mr_Awesome, you could use apt-get
[10:08] <Odd-rationale> Wrong link: http://www.wubi-installer.org/
[10:08] <erUSUL> Mr_Awesome: you can use apt aptitude and synaptic too
[10:08] <Basem> how can i use the free space of the windows partions to make it for ubtunu
[10:08] <erUSUL> !install | Basem
[10:09] <fevel> partitioning
[10:09] <freeman163> Basem,  that tool is built into the ubuntu installer
[10:09] <ubotu> Basem: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[10:09] <Znuffie> Basem, Start the installer. And you'll be guided.
[10:09] <mr_marvin> Znuffie: yes. i gett strange listing when i enter fdisk -l /dev/partition_name, and wish toknow what is that "lp_n" suffix?
[10:09] <erUSUL> !dualboot | Basem
[10:09] <winge-d_angel> someone teach Basem how to shrink an ntfs partition...
[10:09] <ubotu> Basem: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[10:09] <[chr0n0s] > winge-d_angel : which OS ?
[10:09] <Znuffie> winge-d_angel, strangely enough, the installer teaches him...
[10:09] <Odd-rationale> Wubi will install Ubuntu on windows like another program. If you don't like it. just uninstall it. Simple!
[10:09] <winge-d_angel> Znuffie, i know its frustrating... :-P
[10:09] <fevel> yeah Basem if youre using at least version 7.04 you can just start the installer and follow the steps
[10:09] <Znuffie> mr_marvin, erm, why are you listing a partition?
[10:10] <Znuffie> mr_marvin, -l should list the contents of a DRIVE not a partition
[10:10] <winge-d_angel> chr0n0s : which of my questions are you referring to?
[10:10] <tronyx> [chr0n0s]  sorry, didn't see your message.  I want it to mount automatically everytime ubuntu starts but I don't see anything about it in my fstab.  it was mounting automatically with my last install which was about 2 hours ago
[10:10] <winge-d_angel> [chr0n0s] , which of my q's were you referring to?
[10:11] <dimeo> is there a way to set the user passwords to work with 5 characters?  it keeps saying password too short for a 5 character password
[10:11] <[chr0n0s] > tronyx : try this Application --> System Tools --> NTFS configuration Tools
[10:11] <Znuffie> tronyx, just add the 'defaults' options.
[10:11] <mr_marvin> Znuffie: i made a mistake ;)
[10:11] <fevel> dimeo, strange, my password is 5 caracters
[10:11] <rutter> Hi, does anyone know how to list package history as installed/removed via synaptic/apt
[10:11] <blackkatt> am so totally lost need some help with vmware and ubuntu anyone up for that before i start asking questions :P ?
[10:11] <erUSUL> dimeo: to unsecure (even 6 chars are very few)
[10:11] <rutter> as in*
[10:11] <erUSUL> !vmware | blackkatt
[10:11] <ubotu> blackkatt: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[10:11] <ePax> !ask
[10:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:12] <darkchr0n0s_> winge-d_angel : you want to shrink a NTFS partition, rite ?
[10:12] <luen> zdar
[10:12] <RedEyeZ> hey
[10:12] <dimeo> i know 5 characters isn't ideal, but it's what our district is using
[10:12] <chr0n0s> winge-d_angel : so which windoze OS are you using ?
[10:12] <Znuffie> Passwords should be at least 32 chars long ^_^
[10:12] <winge-d_angel> chr0n0s, it wasnt for me :-) it was for Basem
[10:12] <chr0n0s> oww..
[10:12] <chr0n0s> kk
[10:12] <dimeo> in an ideal world ... but we need to set it to 5
[10:12] <cicloner> hi!
[10:13] <chr0n0s> tronyx : any luck ?
[10:13] <winge-d_angel> chr0n0s, i would teach him but i've never used ubuntu's installer to shrink an ntfs partition myself
[10:13] <blackkatt> erUSUL:  i got it installed np there, the problem is and if its possible to run nvidia drivers insted of vmware driver?
[10:13] <freeman163> use 5 then a random charactwer, like a space, underscore, or random digit?
[10:13] <Znuffie> dimeo, I would make my employees change passwords every day, minimum of 32chars and when they change it... the next password shouldn't be similar to any other password previously used :D
[10:13] <winge-d_angel> how do i take away the annoying start up sounds that ubuntu uses when logging into gdm?
[10:14] <Vlet> Znuffie: screw that - every 30 seconds they should change it :)
[10:14] <chr0n0s> Znuffie : 32 length password everyday... sounds like a plan to me !
[10:14] <fevel> winge-d_angel, go to sounds
[10:14] <Znuffie> Actually they should get a "password needs to be changed" prompt every time they click the mouse.
[10:14] <freeman163> winge-d_angel, preferences>login window
[10:14] <mr_marvin> is it possible to set up gnome so it is mor win-like? in 1152x864 averything looks too big
[10:14] <Rich4> My system no longer switches desktops when I drag windows to the side. Anyone have a solution
[10:14] <blackkatt> am trying to get xbmc working with vmware ...but no luck yet. AM on vista and run Vmware with Ubuntu on it..but cant start xbmc cuz vmware drivers are used i guess
[10:14] <Vlet> winge-d_angel: in the Sound control panel, there is an option on the 'sounds' tab at the bottom
[10:14] <tronyx> no, i have no idea what it is.  the last install mounted it on startup no problems, that was 2 hours ago, this install mounts nothing on startup other than the ext3 stuff
[10:14] <RedEyeZ> hey, i need help getting Ubuntu to boot off live cd but the X server wont start
[10:14] <dimeo> freeman163: the users-admin panel won't accept 5 char password to be set
[10:15] <Vlet> freeman163: oh yeah, or that :)
[10:15] <Znuffie> tronyx, paste your fstab entry for that thing.
[10:15] <Znuffie> dimeo, and it shouldn't.
[10:15] <Odd-rationale> blackkatt: For a virtualizer, I would use VirtualBox.
[10:15] <erUSUL> blackkatt: no afaik, vmware does not "virtualize" the graphic hardware only the cdp
[10:15] <chr0n0s> tronyx : try this goto Application --> System Tools --> NTFS configuration Tools
[10:15] <Znuffie> dimeo, like everybody said: it's stupid and probably nobody will help you with it. Minimum of 8 chars.
[10:15] <erUSUL> blackkatt: cpu*
[10:15] <Rich4> My system no longer switches desktops when I drag windows to the side. Anyone have a solution
[10:15] <winge-d_angel> Vlet, fevel thanks
[10:15] <blackkatt> erUSUL:  aha i see
[10:15] <freeman163> dimeo, i mean change it from pass for instance to passw1 or something
[10:15] <fevel> no problem
[10:15] <juntistik> anyone know why when i try to save a new xorg.conf via my video card manager, it would say unable to remove old x config backup file? i cannot save my resolution =/
[10:15] <RedEyeZ> i cant seem to start the live cd
[10:16] <blackkatt> Odd-rationale: VirtualBox whats that?
[10:16] <Znuffie> It's a crap crap crap virtualizing stuff.
[10:16] <Znuffie> Played with it last night... fugly.
[10:16] <Odd-rationale> blackkatt: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[10:16] <Rich4> My system no longer switches desktops when I drag windows to the side. Anyone have a solution
[10:16] <blackkatt> ok i will check
[10:16] <tronyx> znuffie, http://pastebin.com/m687d1e78
[10:16] <chr0n0s> Rich4 : are you using conpiz/beryl ?
[10:17] <RedEyeZ> Can someone help?
[10:17] <Znuffie> tronyx, dude, you set the "noauto" option... how the hell do you suppose it should auto-mount it?
[10:17] <fevel> !ask
[10:17] <chr0n0s> RedEyeZ : you need to explain youself more
[10:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:17] <dimeo> you know whats even more stupid than requiring 8 char passwords minimum...allowing passwords to be reset from recovery console... is there a way to disable that?
[10:17] <Odie> a good program if you need to install common packages is called automatix
[10:17] <bahi> dd
[10:17] <Odie> it automaticly installs packages
[10:18] <Odie> its for the non geeks lol
[10:18] <btoloko> HELP
[10:18] <fevel> automatix breaks systems on upgrade
[10:18] <Rich4> chr0n0s: what are those?
[10:18] <dgjones> !automatix
[10:18] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:18] <bahi>    
[10:18] <fevel> and we have an upgrade in two days
[10:18] <arrow> has anyone ever streamed video from their computer to their television? I'm having a problem with this.
[10:18] <rutter> nm, found what I was looking for
[10:18] <tronyx> znuffie, dude, i came here asking for help, i had supposed it was clear i was a beginner, why do you need to respond like that?
[10:18] <juntistik> i removed automatix because it sucks poop
[10:18] <RedEyeZ> Well I put the disk in boot to cd, then after everything is done, it just says the X server couldent start
[10:18] <Vlet> dimeo: in /boot/grub/menu.lst there is an option to password protect the grub menu
[10:18] <fevel> automatix should die
[10:19] <chr0n0s> RedEyeZ : something like no usable screens found ?
[10:19] <Znuffie> tronyx, wait dude... what are you trying to automount?
[10:19] <reber> is it the same : installing gutsy now than upgrade, or install gutsy in 2 days ?
[10:19] <dimeo> excellent thx!
[10:19] <RedEyeZ> no it just says unable to start X server
[10:19] <tronyx> an NTFS partition
[10:19] <RedEyeZ> then i click ok
[10:19] <Znuffie> reber, same
[10:19] <bahi> join #ubuntu-sa/
[10:19] <Znuffie> reber, you would just upgrade it anyway
[10:19] <tronyx> it has all my mp3s and media on it and I want it to mount every time i boot
[10:19] <reber> Znuffie, ok
[10:19] <juntistik> anyone know how i can bypass this error "unable to remove old x config backup file" when trying to save a new display config?
[10:19] <chr0n0s> tronyx : PM
[10:19] <Znuffie> tronyx, and wich is your ntfs partition?
[10:19] <Colro> is there any way to change what mirrors the update manager uses? I'm getting 20-30kbs on my 10mbit connection, id like to download at least a bit faster :/
[10:20] <fevel> juntistik, did you do wahtever your doing as root?
[10:20] <Rich4> chr0n0s: I don't know if I do.. any way to tell?
[10:20] <cicloner> hi :)
[10:20] <juntistik> im editing the x server display config via my nvidia settings manager.  im unsure wether or not its running as root
[10:20] <blackkatt> Odd-rationale:  do u have time for a quick PM chat =)
[10:20] <Comrade-Sergei> i did this tutorial all the way through (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493095&highlight=4965) but when i do sudo modprobe iwl4965 it says fatal error what did i do wrong
[10:20] <Znuffie> Colro, sure, just change your mirror under the package manager.
[10:20] <tronyx> what do you mean which is my ntfs partition, as in hda1 hdb, etc?
[10:20] <Oli``> Anybody here know the package containing Ruby/GTK?
[10:20] <Znuffie> tronyx, yes
[10:21] <Znuffie> Oli``, apt-cache search ruby | grep gtk
[10:21] <Odd-rationale> blackkatt: Sure. Can't garuntee that I can help, though...
[10:21] <RedEyeZ> after i click ok, it starts to print a message over and over again
[10:21] <tronyx> it should be hda1
[10:21] <bahi>      
[10:21] <fevel> you should probably paste here since more people would see highering your chances for support
[10:21] <juntistik> is there a way to open this settings manager via terminal and use a gksudo command?
[10:21] <fevel> does highering exist???? =P
[10:21] <bahi> comment en peux installer yahoo sur linux
[10:21] <Oli``> Znuffie: thank you =)
[10:21] <tronyx> if u sudo mount /dev/hda1it returns mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:21] <tronyx> *hda1 not hda1it
[10:22] <dwxreaper> i want to be superuser in gnome via freenx(vnc), because i can't copy files, etc, how do i do this
[10:22] <blackkatt> Odd-rationale: ok u have been pmd =)
[10:22] <cicloner> who knows something about "jtr"???
[10:22] <fevel> probably sudo nvidia-settings
[10:22] <Znuffie> tronyx, ofcourse. you need to specify a mount pouint.
[10:22] <fevel> but im not sure
[10:22] <Vlet> Arabic is so pretty
[10:22] <Rich4> My system no longer switches desktops when I drag windows to the side. Anyone have a solution? btw-I don't think I use any beryl or any other..
[10:22] <tronyx> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/NTFS?
[10:22] <fevel> Rich4, Than I never heard of ubuntu doing that
[10:23] <juntistik> very nice fevel, worked like a charm.  thanks
[10:23] <bahi> comment en peux installer yahoo messenger sur linux ubuntu
[10:23] <Znuffie> tronyx, yes, but you need to create the NTFS directory first.
[10:23] <fevel> juntistik, no problem
[10:23] <dgjones> !english | bahi
[10:23] <ubotu> bahi: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[10:23] <Comrade-Sergei> Rich4, that sounds like beryl
[10:23] <cicloner> i have a question about john the ripper
[10:23] <dwxreaper> i want to be superuser in gnome via freenx(vnc), because i can't copy files, etc, how do i do this
[10:23] <cicloner> help please
[10:23] <dimeo> Rich4: are you using brightside?
[10:23] <tronyx> oh sweet lord it worked
[10:23] <Comrade-Sergei> i did this tutorial all the way through (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493095&highlight=4965) but when i do sudo modprobe iwl4965 it says fatal error what did i do wrong
[10:23] <Vlet> !ask | cicloner
[10:23] <ubotu> cicloner: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:23] <Rich4> comrade-sergei: how can i tell what I'm using
[10:23] <Comrade-Sergei> Rich4 cause beryl does that
[10:24] <juntistik> how can i remove beryl through terminal? apt-remove beryl?
[10:24] <tronyx> what do i add to my fstab to make that happen every time znuffie?
[10:24] <cicloner> ok Vlet, to use alpha+digits, in incremental mode??
[10:24] <dwxreaper> i want to be superuser in gnome via freenx(vnc), because i can't copy files, etc, how do i do this
[10:24] <chr0n0s> Rich4 : i doubt something like that happens in gnome, but not 100% sure
[10:24] <tronyx> and I did make the NTFS directory under /media, i manually mounted it fine
[10:24] <RainyLit> in ubuntu wiki there was tutorial, how to remove beryl
[10:24] <Znuffie> tronyx, /dev/hda1        /media/NTFS   defaults 0       0
[10:24] <Rich4> comrade-sergei: how do i fix it?
[10:24] <RedEyeZ> What can i do to get X server to start?
[10:24] <Vlet> cicloner: Huh? What's the question?
[10:25] <fevel> chr0n0s, i doubt too
[10:25] <juntistik> ok ill go check it out rainy, thanks
[10:25] <Comrade-Sergei> Rich4, idk ask some one in #ubuntu-effects
[10:25] <tronyx> ok, brb going to try this
[10:25] <Vlet> RedEyeZ: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:25] <Comrade-Sergei> anyone have a intel agn wifi card in a laptop that works?
[10:25] <chr0n0s> Comrade-Sergei : mine
[10:26] <chr0n0s> sorry
[10:26] <Comrade-Sergei> chr0n0s, how did you make it work?
[10:26] <chr0n0s> it's a/b/g
[10:26] <chr0n0s> not n
[10:26] <tanner_>  Tanner
[10:26] <cicloner> what's the correct sintax in jtr to work" with alpha+digits??
[10:26] <tanner_> bleh,
[10:26] <Comrade-Sergei> chr0n0s, well mine wont work.... i even followed the guide and it gave me errors
[10:27] <chr0n0s> no idea, yet to see n cards
[10:27] <RedEyeZ> where do i type  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:27] <Vlet> cicloner: This isn't a Jack the Ripper support channel
[10:27] <cicloner> vlet
[10:27] <tanner_> anyone know a way to get my ip when i remotely connect to a machine?
[10:27] <cicloner> ok sorry :)
[10:27] <Colro> Znuffie: So I can only choose between a US server and main server?..
[10:27] <Znuffie> Colro, nope
[10:27] <chr0n0s> tanner_ : makes no sense to me
[10:27] <bahi> speeking  frensh
[10:27] <RedEyeZ> VLET: where do i type  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:28] <[Alex] > :-D
[10:28] <neopsyche> how can i install stream ripper
[10:28] <neopsyche> ?
[10:28] <tronyx> znuffie, it didn't automount
[10:28] <Vlet> cicloner: Not trying to be a jerk.. just saying, you're not likely to get an answer to that question here... I personally don't know
[10:28] <Vlet> RedEyeZ: in a terminal
[10:28] <RedEyeZ> what?
[10:28] <tanner_> chr0n0s: when i ssh into my server, i want to log from where i have connected
[10:28] <Znuffie> tronyx, type mount /dev/hda1 now
[10:28] <Vlet> RedEyeZ: If you're asking how to start X, I can only assume you're at a terimnal
[10:28] <RedEyeZ> I cant even get the Live cd to start
[10:28] <cicloner> :)
[10:28] <Comrade-Sergei> chr0n0s, how did you get it to work?
[10:28] <Vlet> RedEyeZ: which, Gutsy?
[10:28] <bahi> link yahoo messenger ubuntu
[10:28] <Jamolo> can anybody help me please i am using ubuntu start dvd  i have bought a new hardisk bios recognizes the hard disk but cannot boot from the start dvd why is that???
[10:28] <tronyx> unknown filesystem type 'defaults'
[10:29] <chr0n0s> Comrade-Sergei : mine is Intel a/b/g and worked out of the box
[10:29] <RedEyeZ> ubuntu 7.04
[10:29] <Rich4> nobody talks on ubuntu effects
[10:29] <freeman163> did you change the boot order to try to boot form the disk?
[10:29] <Comrade-Sergei> it seems my wifi is disabled how do i enable it?
[10:29] <chr0n0s> tanner_ : does man pages for ssh server help you ?
[10:29] <Chris5801> i need help with my wireless card
[10:29] <neopsyche> I have downloaded a tar.gz file DOES anyone know HOW to install that?
[10:29] <Vlet> RedEyeZ: And so what happens when you try to boot from it? Do you get a blank screen, or do you see anything at all?
[10:29] <Jamolo> freeman163 yes first from the dvd then from the hard disk
[10:29] <chr0n0s> neopsyche : untar it
[10:29] <neopsyche> ok
[10:29] <neopsyche> chr0n0s: ok
[10:29] <Chris5801> i nstalled the driver with ndis
[10:30] <tanner_> chr0n0s: no.
[10:30] <neopsyche> chr0n0s: you mean extract?
[10:30] <Chris5801> but it still wont work
[10:30] <RedEyeZ> well i see the ubuntu logo, and i hit enter, when everything starts up, it pops up a massage saying X server failed to start
[10:30] <Vlet> neopsyche: if you right click on it, there should be an option to extract it
[10:30] <kbrooks> neopsyche, what are you doing?
[10:30] <chr0n0s> neopsyche : find the readme file in the extracted files, and follow the instructions
[10:30] <Vlet> RedEyeZ: What type of video card do you have? do you know?
[10:30] <tronyx> neopsyche if you run tar -zxvf archivename it should extract it, contained inside there should be a README
[10:30] <RedEyeZ> then it tells me to reconfigure, but in the command line a message keeps poping up and i cant type anything in
[10:30] <genii> kbrooks: Yes, that would be my first queation, "What is it that you need to install some tar.gz file" etc
[10:31] <tronyx> znuffie, it tells me unknown filesystem type 'defaults'
[10:31] <neopsyche> tronyx: it has extracted
[10:31] <Jamolo> can anybody help me please i am using ubuntu start dvd  i have bought a new hardisk bios recognizes the hard disk but cannot boot from the start dvd why is that???
[10:31] <Znuffie> tronyx, oh, add ntfs there too
[10:31] <Znuffie> tronyx, /dev/hda1        /media/NTFS   ntfs defaults 0       0
[10:31] <freeman163> Jamolo, did you change the boot order to try to boot form the disk?
[10:32] <opexoc_> What does it mean if ./configure throws error: Can't find Tcl configuration definitions, but I have installed  tcl8.4
[10:32] <chr0n0s> how go i access  the man pages of ssh server running on my PC ??
[10:32] <Vlet> Jamolo: Does it boot from the CD at all, or is it just not booting from the CD? You may have to go into your bios options and tell your system to boot from CD
[10:32] <tronyx> ok, brb, let me try this again
[10:32] <Comrade-Sergei> chr0n0s, im going to try gutsy to see if it works there
[10:32] <chr0n0s> Comrade-Sergei : me too waiting for some fixes :(
[10:32] <Jamolo> Vlet i did but it doesnt work ( to boot first from Cd)
[10:32] <Vlet> chr0n0s: man sshd
[10:32] <chr0n0s> Comrade-Sergei : sony vaio + linux sucks
[10:33] <freeman163> ugh... anyone good with the srr addon for firefox?
[10:33] <chr0n0s> Vlet : found it :)
[10:33] <Vlet> Jamolo: so is it trying to boot from the CD or not?
[10:33] <Comrade-Sergei> chr0n0s, No ubuntu + hp dv9500 dont play nice
[10:33] <Jamolo> Vlet no
[10:33] <RedEyeZ> Vlet: it boots up to a screen that  says X server canot start - then it tells me to reconfigure - it sends me to ca command line but i bant type anything in bacuase a message keeps poping.
[10:33] <Chris5801> can somebody plase help me
[10:33] <Vlet> Jamolo: well, then it's got to be either some setting in your bios, or your cd might be corrupt
[10:33] <Comrade-Sergei> Chris5801, !ask
[10:33] <Jamolo> and just when i isconnect hard disk i can boot with the cd
[10:33] <freeman163> it seems that it's recognizing my slashdot rss feed, but it reads off the cnn one >.<
[10:33] <Vlet> RedEyeZ: What type of video card do you have?
[10:34] <Chris5801> !ask
[10:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:34] <Jamolo> and just when i disconnect hard disk i can boot with the cd
[10:34] <freeman163> jamolo, i know whats wrong
[10:34] <Comrade-Sergei> lol
[10:34] <chr0n0s> Comrade-Sergei : i think i should have bought a linux certified laptop, but too bad i cannot find any in local market
[10:34] <RedEyeZ> Vlet: Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics
[10:34] <Chris5801> !ask my wireless card wont work
[10:34] <Jamolo> yes freeman163?
[10:34] <freeman163> jamolo, you need to change the boot order wihtin your bios.
[10:34] <Comrade-Sergei> chr0n0s, didnt think there was such a thing
[10:34] <Vlet> Jamolo: sounds like you've got some master/slave issues
[10:34] <Comrade-Sergei> Chris5801, join the club
[10:34] <Vlet> RedEyeZ: Are you by chance connected via DVI?
[10:34] <freeman163> first it should try to boot from cd/dvd, then hard disk
[10:34] <tronyx> thanks znuffie you are a gentleman and a scholar
[10:35] <RedEyeZ> DUI?
[10:35] <Jamolo> vlet sorry dont know much about master slave issues
[10:35] <fevel> chr0n0s, dell sells them
[10:35] <Jamolo> what i have to do?
[10:35] <chr0n0s> Comrade-Sergei : i believe there is.. and i think DELL will work nicer with ubuntu, as it comes preinstalled
[10:35] <chr0n0s> fevel : only in US
[10:35] <Chris5801> wat do u mean join the club
[10:35] <fevel> chr0n0s, im in brasil
[10:35] <neopsyche> tronyx: ok there are a bunch of files in the directory... the readme just says how to use the program not how to install it?
[10:35] <fevel> brazil
[10:35] <Comrade-Sergei> chr0n0s, i htought you ahd a vaio?
[10:35] <freeman163> when it boots up, enter setup. there should be an option in there sopmewhere about boot devices
[10:35] <theAtom> how can I undelete a file I deleted on ubuntu gutsy?
[10:36] <Vlet> Jamolo: check the jumper pins on the back of your cdrom and harddrive and make sure they're not both set up as master
[10:36] <tronyx> what program is it?
[10:36] <kharloss> hi there . how can i upgrade PHP to latest version ?
[10:36] <Jamolo> freeman163 i told bios to boot first from cd
[10:36] <dgjones> chr0n0s, and europe for Dell's, plus I think Asus and Lenovo both either sell or are planning on selling linux laptops
[10:36] <RedEyeZ> Vlet: Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics
[10:36] <Jamolo> vlet ok
[10:36] <theAtom> dgjones, prove it
[10:36] <chr0n0s> Comrade-Sergei :  i have a vaio, tho i wanted to buy a dell.. but ended up with vaio
[10:36] <freeman163> err, vlet, they both should be master, one should be primary master and the other secondary...
[10:36] <Comrade-Sergei> theAtom, well you probably shouldnt be running the hdd you want to pull the file from
[10:36] <Jeriath> ERROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system, please install your distribution's libc development package.
[10:36] <Vlet> RedEyeZ: yeah, and are you connected via a DVI cable, or VGA?
[10:36] <Jeriath> i get thay when trying to install nvidia drivers
[10:36] <Comrade-Sergei> chr0n0s, i wouldnt buy anything sony if my life depended on it
[10:36] <RedEyeZ> VGA
[10:37] <dgjones> theAtom, have a look at Dell's website, that gives it away
[10:37] <RedEyeZ> Vlet : VGA
[10:37] <chr0n0s> Comrade-Sergei : i;ll follow that from now on =P, also add ATi to the list
[10:37] <Vlet> RedEyeZ: ahh... perhaps you should try the 'alternate CD' available on ubuntu.com
[10:37] <theAtom> Comrade-Sergei, your comments are invalid and useless
[10:37] <theAtom> Comrade-Sergei, your comments are invalid and useless
[10:37] <Comrade-Sergei> theAtom, ?
[10:38] <theAtom> dgjones, I said prove ASUS are doing it
[10:38] <Comrade-Sergei> chr0n0s, nah ati s got open sourced graphics now
[10:38] <Calculon> hi i have a small problem
 chr0n0s, and europe for Dell's, plus I think Asus  <-- Asus?  prove it
[10:38] <RedEyeZ> alright, does the alternate cd boot to LIVE so i can ste it up to dual boot?
[10:38] <neopsyche> tronyx: It is streamripper
[10:38] <Calculon> i have installated IPV6 protocol
[10:38] <Calculon> and it work
[10:38] <neopsyche> tronyx: in windows streamripper has a nice GUI
[10:38] <Jamolo> Vled sorry sounds perhaps stupid but i dont find that :(
[10:38] <neopsyche> tronyx: is there one for linux?
[10:38] <Comrade-Sergei> ive had it easier with a radeon 8250 than a nvidia 8600 gs
[10:38] <Calculon> i have apache
[10:38] <freeman163> lets hear it thengah
[10:39] <Calculon> in local
[10:39] <freeman163> you havent lived till youve tried it with a geforce 2 : p
[10:39] <Calculon> but uf i see the link ::1
[10:39] <Calculon> i can't see nothing
[10:39] <Vlet> freeman163: if a cdrom and hdrive are on the same ide channel, one should be master, and the other slave, no?
[10:39] <theAtom> how can I undelete a file I deleted on ubuntu gutsy?
[10:39] <RedEyeZ> How do i install to dual boot with the Alternate cd?
[10:39] <bruenig> theAtom, wrong channel, you can't
[10:40] <theAtom> bruenig, wrong channel?
[10:40] <bruenig> !topic | theAtom
[10:40] <theAtom> bruenig, is this Ubuntu?
[10:40] <dgjones> theAtom, i said i think Asus were a due to - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9292516116.html
[10:40] <freeman163> why would you put them on the same channel?
[10:40] <Vlet> theAtom: gutsy support channel = #ubuntu+1
[10:40] <theAtom> bruenig, ok let me rephrase my question.  how can I undelete a file I deleted on ubuntu?
[10:40] <Comrade-Sergei> breunig doesnt it just take the first part off the file to delete?
[10:40] <ubotu> theAtom: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[10:40] <achtzehn> does openoffice have a package for inputting pinyin to get chinese characters?
[10:40] <bruenig> theAtom, I answered you as well
[10:40] <yaser> can you recomend a good hardware chat?
[10:40] <theAtom> bruenig, why cant I get my deleted file back?  is there no way?
[10:40] <Jamolo> vlet i think you are true i am much better with software and operating system than with hard ware :(
[10:41] <chr0n0s> tanner_ : try man sshd_config
[10:41] <theAtom> bruenig, how come the Feds can get deleted files back, but I cannot?
[10:41] <yaser> can you recomend a good hardware linux related chat or just hardware related at least?
[10:41] <bruenig> theAtom, no there isn't, unless you know some data recovery places you can take your computer too
[10:41] <Chris5801> can anyone help me
[10:41] <Genelyk> hello !!!!
[10:41] <Adria1> Hey all.
[10:41] <dgjones> theAtom, that wasn't what i was thinking of though, it was actually Acer I'd seen the article about
[10:41] <theAtom> bruenig, how can the data recovery places get files back?
[10:41] <freeman163> theyre the feds. they can do a lot of things we cant
[10:41] <chr0n0s> !ask
[10:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:41] <theAtom> dgjones, ok!  cause Asus are not planning on it at all/
[10:42] <Genelyk> requeriment minimus  for gutsy ???????
[10:42] <theAtom> freeman163, what do they use to get files back?
[10:42] <Vlet> theAtom: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext3carve/
[10:42] <yaser> can you recomend a good hardware linux related chat or just hardware related at least?
[10:42] <donchriscoe> msg nickserv id rabbit
[10:42] <ompaul> yaser, ##hardware
[10:42] <Vlet> heh
[10:42] <Adria1> Hmm. on Gaim, i chose MSN, put my Email and Password in (correct), and it has problems connecting, anyone know why? (I'm new to Ubuntu btw) :)
[10:42] <chr0n0s> theAtom : hardware reading directly ?
[10:42] <fevel> yaser, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:43] <theAtom> !numa
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about numa - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <Vlet> theAtom: numa = http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext3carve/
[10:43] <theAtom> bruenig, seems u were wrong:  read this:   http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext3carve/
[10:44] <theAtom> bruenig, not wise to give misleading information
[10:44] <Vlet> theAtom: good _luck_
[10:44] <bruenig> theAtom, ok if <48kb will do for you, have fun
[10:44] <skyhook>  How big should the swap be?
[10:44] <Seveas> theAtom, please tone down a bit...
[10:44] <bruenig> I don't have many files less than 48 kb I must say
[10:44] <bruenig> perhaps you do
[10:44] <bruenig> <48KB if default block size=4kb.(if default size=8kb then recovers 96kb file)Identifying and recovering files based on analysis of file format.
[10:44] <theAtom> Seveas, ok.  So there is a way to recover a deleted file using numa?
[10:45] <Vlet> theAtom: yes, use it
[10:45] <bruenig> hopefully you used 8kb, then you get double the recovery
[10:45] <Seveas> theAtom, numa? I only know numa as non-uniform memory access...
[10:45] <Vlet> theAtom: Read it's manual
[10:45] <fevel> there is a way to recover deleted files
[10:45] <theAtom> Seveas,  http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext3carve/
[10:45] <Chris5801> i guess nobody can hlep me
[10:45] <theAtom> fevel, tell that to bruenig :)
[10:45] <fevel> or recovering facilities woldnt be able
[10:45] <bruenig> theAtom, read the description
[10:45] <chr0n0s> Chris5801 : help in ?
[10:45] <Seveas> theAtom, no idea, never used that
[10:45] <bruenig> theAtom, less than 48 kilobytes files
[10:45] <fevel> that package is a sucky one
[10:46] <theAtom> Seveas, do you know any way to receover deleted files?
[10:46] <Seveas> theAtom, you could try that numa thing
[10:46] <bruenig> theAtom, were these files you deleted less than 48 kb?
[10:46] <theAtom> bruenig, what? really? it only recovers files less than 48kb?
[10:46] <fevel> but hard disks are magnetic devices that files are only deleted after re written upon
[10:46] <luxbut> hello
[10:46] <luxbut> !list
[10:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:46] <theAtom> bruenig, no! 170Kb
[10:46] <Chris5801> i cant get my wireless card to work
[10:46] <bruenig> theAtom, yeah if you would read the description in that link you sent me instead of being a yapping ubuntu using idiot
[10:46] <theAtom> bruenig, settle down please
[10:46] <Seveas> bruenig, !language
[10:46] <chr0n0s> Chris5801 : which wireless card is it ?
[10:46] <bruenig> it says files less than 48 kb
[10:46] <theAtom> bruenig, please tone down a bit...
[10:47] <theAtom> bruenig, no need to get nasty and name calling :(
[10:47] <Chris5801> dell 1501
[10:47] <Chris5801> its built in
[10:47] <Vlet> theAtom: Do you have any more questions involving ubuntu?
[10:47] <fevel> come on bruenig, he was trying to help
[10:47] <Seveas> theAtom, you should chill down as well
[10:47] <subpar> !partition
[10:47] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:47] <onj> I need help getting my sound blaster audigy to work
[10:47] <kane77> fevel, and even after writing over it it can be restored, but that goes beyond mortals abilities..
[10:47] <Seveas> kane77, :)
[10:47] <theAtom> Seveas, im chilled, im not the one calling people idiots like bruenig called me
[10:47] <onj> Ubuntu 7.10 RC !
[10:47] <Vlet> theAtom: Do you have any more questions involving ubuntu?
[10:47] <theAtom> Vlet, yes
[10:47] <subpar> !gparted
[10:47] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:47] <fevel> kane77, at least my mortal abilities .....LOL
[10:47] <theAtom> Vlet, is there any AV for gutsy?
[10:48] <bruenig> fevel, no he wasn't, he though he had found something that I hadn't seen and tried to act like he had achieved something but failed to realize that < 48 kb file recovery is what he found which is nearly useless
[10:48] <bexamous_> when the livecd starts, what logs in the 'ubuntu' user to the console?
[10:48] <bexamous_> anyone know?
[10:48] <Vlet> Antivirus? Aegis.
[10:48] <fevel> bruenig, yeah I just saw it...but its ok. make peace =)
[10:48] <Seveas> bexamous_, yes, gdm
[10:48] <theAtom> does final come out tomorrow?
[10:48] <fevel> were all very smart people
[10:48] <Seveas> bexamous_, the installed system can do it as well
[10:48] <Chris5801> chronos:
[10:48] <Vlet> theAtom: 18th
[10:48] <Seveas> theAtom, the 18th
[10:48] <theAtom> its 17th now
[10:48] <kane77> fevel, you'd need to take the disk apart and examine it physicaly for remaining magnetic charges using special equipment...
[10:48] <fevel> and smart people crowded in one place tend to get itchy
[10:49] <bexamous_> sorry not in X, just the first console
[10:49] <fevel> lol
[10:49] <theAtom> here in Australia
[10:49] <Seveas> depending on where you are, that's tomorrow
[10:49] <subpar> can someone help me out with setting up a dual boot
[10:49] <Seveas> theAtom, experience learns that it's usually not before noon on the release day that the release is official
[10:49] <fevel> kane77, ooh...thats nice
[10:49] <theAtom> Seveas, do I need to download final and install it fresh?  Or can I just to apt-get upgrade on the 18th on the version im running now?
[10:49] <theAtom> Seveas, ok
[10:49] <Vlet> subpar: this can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[10:50] <theAtom> am I running RC gutsy now?
[10:50] <Seveas> theAtom, update-manager --dist-upgrade
[10:50] <[chr0n0s] > Chris5801 : gimme me output of     lspci | grep less
[10:50] <fevel> on pastebin ocourse =)
[10:50] <fevel> or ill lag to death
[10:50] <[chr0n0s] > nah.. 1 line it will me
[10:50] <Vlet> Seveas, theAtom: or "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", right?
[10:50] <[chr0n0s] > be*
[10:51] <fevel> oh ok =)
[10:51] <Chris5801> huh? im kinad new to linux
[10:51] <Seveas> Vlet, that'll also work if you change your sources.list :)
[10:51] <subpar> VLet: I already have ubuntu installed, in order to reformat my unused space, I'll need to boot the live cd and use gparted there, right?
[10:51] <fevel> just worried for my sucku sucky terminal nec laptop
[10:51] <Vlet> Seveas: ahh yeah
[10:51] <[chr0n0s] > Chris5801 : can you open a terminal ?
[10:51] <theAtom> Vlet, so on the 18th after final released, I type: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[10:51] <theAtom> Seveas, I type this in terminal?  "update-manager --dist-upgrade" ?
[10:51] <Vlet> theAtom: See what Seveas just mentioned
[10:52] <Vlet> theAtom: yeah, follow his/her advise
[10:52] <Seveas> theAtom, you might need a sudo in front of that
[10:52] <[chr0n0s] > Chris5801 : yes/no.. be quick!
[10:52] <Eedge> quick question, just installed 7.04 and am having problems getting the resolution about 800x600, even though in my xorg.conf it clearly states modes up to 1280x1024!
[10:52] <theAtom> "sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade" ?
[10:52] <Vlet> subpar: yep, you got it
[10:52] <Chris5801> yes
[10:52] <theAtom> ok
[10:52] <subpar> cool, that's all I really need to know
[10:52] <subpar> thanks :)
[10:52] <por100pre1> gksudo 'update-manger -d'
[10:52] <Eedge> however, only goes up to 800x600 in the screen resolution thingal?
[10:52] <[chr0n0s] > Chris5801 : then on the terminal type    lspci | grep less
[10:52] <fevel> por100pre1, no need for sudo
[10:53] <fevel> or is there?
[10:53] <fevel> I didnt
[10:53] <Odd-rationale> theAtom: Or check the web: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[10:53] <theAtom> how can I create a shortcut that is on my desktop from a file on my USB stick?
[10:53] <dgjones> !backup > dgjones
[10:53] <theAtom> Odd-rationale, ok
[10:53] <zach_> i have a problem with my usb ports.....as soon as I plug something in, it powers right back down
[10:53] <Lifeisfunny> hey, it's been '2 days' for the last three weeks........ what's going on?
[10:53] <Chris5801> it comes up woth my network card
[10:54] <[chr0n0s] > Chris5801 : i need the output
[10:54] <Chris5801> the dell wireless 1390 Wlan
[10:54] <theAtom> Seveas, that webpage says to run "update-manager -d"
[10:54] <fevel> Chris5801, youll need ndiswrapper
[10:54] <[chr0n0s] > can you copy paste it ?
[10:54] <por100pre1> you'll need the password anyway so use gksudo
[10:54] <freeman163> err, it has?
[10:54] <frandavid100> hi
[10:54] <Chris5801> i have it
[10:54] <Chris5801> and i have installed thedriver
[10:54] <Eedge> how do I get my screen resolution about 800x600?
[10:54] <theAtom> Seveas, whats diff between update-manager -d and sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade ?
[10:54] <Eedge> how do I get my screen resolution about 800x600?
[10:54] <fevel> and whats up? not working??
[10:54] <Eedge> oops, didn't mean to send twice sorry. lol
[10:55] <Vlet> theAtom: man 'switches' like that will have aliases. in this case, -d is short for --dist-upgrade
[10:55] <frandavid100> can anyone who uses a DVB card give me some help generating a channels.conf file?
[10:55] <Seveas> theAtom, read the manpage for update-manager, -d is for devel release
[10:55] <Kworth> Hello, I have installed Firefox on my System but the flash plugin just does not return any sound. All other programms return sound just find.... what to do?
[10:55] <Chris5801> Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1309 WLAN mini-PCI card (rev 01)
[10:55] <theAtom> Vlet, ah ok thanks
[10:55] <por100pre1> don't use sudo for graphical applications
[10:55] <fevel> thats a pavillion notebook
[10:55] <theAtom> Seveas, whats  devel release?
[10:55] <[chr0n0s] > Chris5801 : ndiswrapper installed ?
[10:55] <Seveas> theAtom, when it's not finished yet :)
[10:55] <theAtom> Seveas, lol :)
[10:55] <Chris5801> yes
[10:56] <fevel> see if its up then
[10:56] <Chris5801> and i installed the driver for the card
[10:56] <Vlet> Seveas: suppose I shouldn't pull answers out of my ... cough ;)
[10:56] <freeman163> eff, the upgrade screwed up.
[10:56] <[chr0n0s] > fevel  : please take over, i have no idea of ndiswrapper
[10:56] <kukukku> any one please help~! every time I try to install sun-java5-jre it gives me an Error in /usr/share/doc-base/jde
[10:56] <freeman163> my mom shut the comp down in the middle of it last time >.<
[10:56] <IanLiu> How do I enable Compiz Cube Desktop?
[10:56] <[chr0n0s] > freeman163 : first lol ;)
[10:57] <freeman163> heh... yeah, now i get an internal error about HAL on boot-up
[10:57] <Kopfgeldjaeger> n8
[10:57] <[chr0n0s] > freeman163 : wait 1 more day and get new version, the clean install ?
[10:57] <dwxreaper> whats command to see current cpu utitlization, last minute average, etc
[10:58] <neopsyche> why cant i save a .gif?
[10:58] <oktanouc>  /window close
[10:58] <[chr0n0s] > dwxreaper : try top
[10:58] <ebirtaid> owned ;p
[10:58] <oktanouc> oops ^^
[10:58] <Vlet> neopsyche: maybe be more specific with your question
[10:58] <Chris5801> yes ndiswrapper is instlled
[10:59] <dwxreaper> chronos: i tried top the output confused me, can i do top | grep /% or somethign like that
[10:59] <fevel> Chris5801, is the module up?
[10:59] <simen> I can't get any sound in Ubuntu. My system acts as if the volume was muted, I don't get any error messages, and it works regularly in windows. This is my sound card: 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller. (I'm fairly new to linux and ubuntu, so I'll need a detailed discription if it is possible.
[10:59] <manic_> anyone know how to add a windows xp os on sda1 to the grub menu
[10:59] <neopsyche> I dont see an option to save as gif in Kolour Paint
[10:59] <Odd-rationale> IanLui: Are you using Gusty?
[10:59] <Chris5801> wat do u mean, how do i tell
[10:59] <dwxreaper> chronos: nm it was my terminal, had to type reset, and i'm in cmd window
[10:59] <manic_> for some reason the install didnt add it automatically which it normally does
[10:59] <erUSUL> manic_: there is an example in the coments of the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:59] <theAtom> do I need to run a Anti-Virus program on Ubuntu?
[11:00] <manic_> erUSUL : perfect thank you
[11:00] <bruenig> no
[11:00] <dwxreaper> theatom: not if you like to live dangerously
[11:00] <Yourname`> Hi. For some reason my Ubuntu feisty is crashing and I don't know why... what can I do to diagnose and fix?
[11:00] <theAtom> dwxreaper, pls dont troll
[11:00] <[chr0n0s] > dwxreaper : try gnome-system-monitor
[11:00] <dwxreaper> theatom: it's a legit answer
[11:00] <theAtom> Yourname`, check memory
[11:00] <bruenig> dwxreaper, you use anti-virus on gnu/linux?
[11:00] <dwxreaper> theatom: ubuntu is more secure than windows by default, any system is still vulnerable
[11:00] <theAtom> dwxreaper, its trolling
[11:01] <fevel> Check this out Chris5801...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[11:01] <neopsyche> Vlet: what can i use to save a file in .gif format?
[11:01] <dwxreaper> theatom: poor question
[11:01] <bruenig> dwxreaper, if so, have you ever caught anything?
[11:01] <dwxreaper> theatom: well not a poor question, but that's up to you
[11:01] <fevel> Chris5801, but first... do a lsmod | grep ndis
[11:01] <dwxreaper> bruenig: never caught anything on windows either, never ran anti-virus
[11:01] <Masj> Is there a known problem that prevents 7.10 to run Compiz-Fusion on multiple screens for example tvout
[11:01] <fevel> and tell me the output
[11:01] <theAtom> dwxreaper, count to 60
[11:01] <Vlet> neopsyche: this is probably why it doesn
[11:02] <Vlet> neopsyche: doesn't save to gif... http://burnallgifs.org/
[11:02] <Yourname`> theAtom: How?
[11:02] <bruenig> dwxreaper, oh so you don't run it, see I thought you were saying to run it which implies that you might run it. My fault.
[11:02] <neopsyche> I need gif for a program.
[11:02] <Vlet> neopsyche: You could try out 'gimp'
[11:02] <SuperPigs> .
[11:02] <neopsyche> Vlet: where in gimp will i be able to save to gif?
[11:02] <theAtom> Yourname`, when you load Ubuntu, the menu screen has option to check RAM
[11:02] <freeman163> save as maybe?
[11:02] <theAtom> Yourname`> Hi. For some reason my Ubuntu feisty is crashing and I don't know why... what can I do to diagnose and fix? <-- First thing CHECK your RAM
[11:02] <cellybot> hi
[11:02] <simen> can somebody assist me with a sound problem?
[11:03] <Chris5801> i did
[11:03] <fevel> Chris5801, whats the output
[11:03] <theAtom> simen, I can yell for you if you want :)
[11:03] <[chr0n0s] > gimp is god of all paint systems :(, something simpler can be used
[11:03] <Yourname`> theAtom: This is a remote server.
[11:03] <nomaS> is there a way to configure internet by USB connection ?????????
[11:03] <theAtom> Yourname`, so what?  Ubuntu needs to run in RAM
[11:03] <theAtom> Yourname`, think about it lol
[11:04] <XiXaQ> what do I need to do to let a user connect using ssh?
[11:04] <theAtom> Yourname`, check wherever the RAM is
[11:04] <Yourname`> theAtom: I'm a beginner, and I have no idea how to do it. Are you willing to help me saying more than "check the RAM"?
[11:04] <Veinor> theAtom: do you mean check the physical ram? because hardware faults are usually investigated last.
[11:04] <Chris5801> ndiswrapper           194608  0
[11:04] <Chris5801> usbcore               134280  6 ndiswrapper,usb_storage,libusual,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[11:04] <[chr0n0s] > Yourname` : if the OS is crashing. make sure your RAM isn't faulty
[11:04] <fevel> hummm
[11:04] <fevel> then its up
[11:05] <Veinor> I wouldn't check for bad ram right away, especially if it's a remote server.
[11:05] <fevel> I would redo that tutorial i showed you
[11:05] <theAtom> Veinor, according to whom?
[11:05] <Yourname`> [chr0n0s] : It's brand new RAM. Changed it twice so far just so I know it's got good RAM :)
[11:05] <Eedge> any suggestions about forcing screen resolution about 800x600?
[11:05] <fevel> I gotta go to college math now, so I cant help you out...im sure someone else can
[11:05] <theAtom> Yourname`> [chr0n0s] : It's brand new RAM. Changed it twice so far just so I know it's got good RAM :) <-- Brand new RAM can be faulty
[11:05] <nomaS> is there a way to configure internet by USB connection ?????????
[11:05] <jdong> Yourname`: so what if it's brand new?
[11:05] <Apo1> so is it just me or is anyone else struggling to get samba to run in 7.10 RC?
[11:05] <Veinor> two sets of brand new ram plus the original set being faulty?
[11:05] <platius> Eedge: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto look here
 theAtom: do you mean check the physical ram? because hardware faults are usually investigated last. <-- investigates last?  according to whom?
[11:06] <[chr0n0s] > Yourname` : testing for a fault will take about 15 mins..
[11:06] <fevel> Chris5801, you should install wifi radar and make sure it really isnt working, or redo that tutorial...
[11:06] <fevel> Ill cya later guys
[11:06] <Eedge> platius: cheers, checking the link now :)
[11:06] <[chr0n0s] > bye fevel
[11:06] <jdong> Veinor: why shouldn't one do a memory test first if the symptoms strongly point towards a RAM fault?
[11:06] <Yourname`> I understand. But are there ways I can check Ubuntu itself for errors like logfiles, etc?
[11:06] <Veinor> jdong: well, if the symptoms point towards it, then sure do a ram test. But all I saw was "ubuntu crashed".
[11:06] <jdong> it's one of the most trivial things you can do, and once that's ruled out you'll be far more productive....
[11:07] <theAtom> jdong, hello my dear old friend :)
[11:07] <PurpZeY> Is there any way to set a particular wireless network preferred without deleting another from gconf?
[11:07] <jdong> Veinor: I am still catching up on scrollback..... *sheepishly reads up*
[11:07] <Apo1> I would do a memtest too
[11:07] <jdong> theAtom: why hello
[11:07] <fevel> bye [chr0n0s] 
[11:07] <atlfalcons866> anyone use reiserfs
[11:07] <[chr0n0s] > if Ubuntu crashed, i can think of 2 things rightaways, memory leaks in some program, or faulty RAM
[11:08] <Veinor> Yourname`: have any programs been installed lately?
[11:08] <Yourname`> Veinor: PHEX.
[11:08] <theAtom> Yourname`, you dont want to listne to me. yet I provided u with an answer to your problem
[11:08] <jdong> if the entire operating system crashed, and you do not run any experimental (i.e. ndiswrapper, some webcams) hardware, then I'd suspect hardware
[11:09] <[chr0n0s] > theAtom :  think that is not an option for him, if the PC is situated at a remote location
[11:09] <pi3> Hi, I tried to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 but it failed during installation (configuring), now update-manger says: "E: tzdata: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10; E: util-linux: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured". I'm afraid that Ubuntu will have problems if I reboot
[11:09] <jdong> pi3: that error should not cause problems with a reboot; it has been reported a few times today already
[11:09] <Veinor> Yourname`: are there any programs like compiz fusion, beryl, ndiswrapper, or a webcam for which the support is not necessarily the best?
[11:09] <[chr0n0s] > pi3 forums ?
[11:10] <ramses_> sad sd
[11:10] <Apo1> anyone else having samba problems in gutsy?
[11:10] <ramses_> k hay de nuevo viejo
[11:10] <pi3> jdong: in addition, amarok and some other programs cannot start
[11:10] <Yourname`> Veinor: Nope
[11:10] <Vlet> Gutsy = #ubuntu+1
[11:10] <jdong> pi3: that can be normal if you have not rebooted since upgading
[11:11] <ramses_> q honda homie
[11:11] <Apo1> ta vlet
[11:11] <caesar_> ok. I've got a stupid question. Where are .deb's put when they're downloaded?
[11:11] <Colro> what's the command to edit xorg.cfg?
[11:11] <freeman163> same place as everything else
[11:11] <pi3> jdong: ok, thanks, I'll back up just in case and reboot
[11:11] <Veinor> caesar_: depends. if you're using firefox and it's not prompting, probably the desktop
[11:11] <PriceChild> caesar_, /var/cache/apt/archive
[11:11] <[chr0n0s] > pi3 : give it a shot :P
[11:11] <intr80_> Colro : nano /etc/X11/xorg.cfg
[11:11] <PriceChild> cori[s] , its xorg.conf
[11:11] <Colro> thanks
[11:11] <joerack> Hello. anybody can help me how to remove a windows application i mistakenly installed? thank you
[11:11] <Vlet> caesar_: Depends on what you downloaded them with... Firefox usually downloads to the desktop.
[11:12] <joerack> its under the ine menu now
[11:12] <joerack> wine
[11:12] <intr80_> Colro : or pico, or vi, or emacs
[11:12] <Veinor> joerack: and there's no uninstaller?
[11:12] <caesar_> I mean with synaptic. I think PriceChild answered my question
[11:12] <freeman163> i tried to run duke nukem 3d in wine
[11:12] <Veinor> oh.
[11:12] <freeman163> hmm, actually...
[11:12] <freeman163> i think ima try again
[11:12] <joerack> Veinor: no, it-s office 2003
[11:12] <[chr0n0s] > nice torrent speeds :)
[11:12] <freeman163> gross
[11:13] <joerack> I didn-t know i had to use xoveroffice
[11:13] <Colro> intr80_: that file is empty..are you sure it's in that directory? ;x
[11:13] <borovy3488> which site has the best torrent speeds?
[11:13] <reber> freeman163, is it a free game ?
[11:13] <freeman163> yeah
[11:13] <freeman163> was on old pcgamer disk rofl
[11:13] <Veinor> joerack: eww. um, cd to ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files and remove the directory by hand?
[11:13] <rathel> I'm running fiesty, and I don't know what I changed, but I can't seem to go fullscreen with mplayer anymore, it's just a box in the middle of the screen when I go fullscreen, How do I fix this?
[11:14] <joerack> will do
[11:14] <theAtom> anyone know how can I get Ubuntu to recognise my Asus inbuilt webcam?
[11:14] <Yourname`> theAtom: I know, but you're not pulling in full sentences, and to a newb like me.. it doesn't make sense.
[11:14] <bansteen666> wow
[11:14] <bansteen666> hey motherfuckers
[11:14] <theAtom> Yourname`, just cause it doesnt make sense, doesnt mean its not accurate
[11:14] <freeman163> bansteen, i think your looking for @oedipus
[11:15] <theAtom> anyone know how can I get Ubuntu to recognise my Asus inbuilt webcam?
[11:15] <Veinor> theAtom: Yes, but it's no use being accurate if it's unintelligible
[11:15] <trippin445> i have a question if someone could help me out, i was wondering what is or what chipset works best with ubuntu?
[11:15] <[chr0n0s] > Yourname` : do you have access to the computer ( i mean hardware access) ?
[11:15] <Veinor> freeman163: :D
[11:15] <freeman163> heheh
[11:15] <caesar_> ok. My second question: is there a way I can script a WINDOWS computer to download .debs for me/
[11:15] <goki> Anyone know whether the Asus P5KR will be ok with ubuntu? (RAID, etc.)
[11:15] <theAtom> Yourname`, RAM problem
[11:15] <trippin445> i have a question if someone could help me out, i was wondering what is or what chipset wireless cards that work best with ubuntu?
[11:16] <Vlet> theAtom: Second result in a google search for "asus webcam ubuntu".... c'mon people... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3501515
[11:16] <Seveas> trippin445, intel ones work perfect, atheros works decent
[11:16] <[chr0n0s] > trippin445 : intel ABG wireess works fine with ubuntu
[11:16] <Seveas> trippin445, others usually work, but beware of broadcom 4318
[11:16] <trippin445> do they support monitor mode?
[11:17] <darkchr0n0s_> Seveas : i believe Intel ABGN has some issues
[11:17] <Yourname`> Ok, let me come back when IU have physical access.
[11:17] <freeman163> its not liking my .exes : /
[11:17] <Yourname`> Thanks guys.
[11:17] <borovy3488> do you guys know if the normal way to make the firefox buttons and text not blurry will still work with gutsy?
[11:17] <Seveas> darkchr0n0s_, interesting
[11:17] <theAtom> Vlet, ok! i downloaded the drivers from there! now what? :P
[11:18] <trippin445> seveas does any of them cards support monitor mode?
[11:18] <Seveas> trippin445, never tried that so wouldn't know
[11:18] <Seveas> !wifi | maybe look here, trippin445
[11:18] <ubotu> maybe look here, trippin445: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:19] <darkchr0n0s_> monitor mode ? wireless ?
[11:19] <macjason0607> i want to put a linux distro on a emachine 2ghz 128mb ram ? can i do this ?
[11:19] <Seveas> macjason0607, sure, but 128MB isn't really cutting it anymore
[11:19] <PP|Spydon> I think so, yes
[11:19] <simen> Can someone try to assist me with a sound issue?
[11:19] <darkchr0n0s_> macjason0607 : if you can just get 128 more RAM, it will be great
[11:19] <joerack> Anybody with a black screen problem after a while beryl is running_
[11:20] <Colro> where is xorg.cfg? trying to gedit it and can't find the directory :/
[11:20] <joerack> ?
[11:20] <PP|Spydon> xubuntu works fine with 128MB
[11:20] <Veinor> Colro: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:20] <darkchr0n0s_> Colro : /etc/X11/
[11:20] <Amaranth> joerack: Disable sync to vblank in beryl-settings
[11:20] <Veinor> you need to be root to run it.
[11:20] <Veinor> *edit it
[11:20] <train> how to I configure the desktop effects
[11:20] <train> I have them enabled
[11:20] <Colro> is my xorg.cfg file supposed to be empty then?...
[11:20] <Colro> when i edit it all i see is a blank file
[11:20] <macjason0607> Seveas what linux distro should i go with then ?
[11:20] <Colro> O_O
[11:20] <Seveas> train, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:20] <christian_> some body have
[11:20] <train> is there a configuration tool, like enabling the cube
[11:20] <altair_> How to i get cat to print more than one page to a ps file
[11:20] <Veinor> Colro: it's called xorg.conf, not xorg.cfg
[11:20] <christian_> the package .deb
[11:20] <christian_> of
[11:20] <train> k
[11:20] <christian_> fusion icon
[11:21] <Seveas> !enter | christian_
[11:21] <Colro> ...my bad :|
[11:21] <darkchr0n0s_> lol Colro
[11:21] <ubotu> christian_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:21] <darkchr0n0s_> cfg are in windows
[11:21] <Veinor> also, you need to be root, so run 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' (without quotes) from a terminal
[11:21] <rathel> I'm running fiesty, and I don't know what I changed, but I can't seem to go fullscreen with mplayer anymore, it's just a box in the middle of the screen when I go fullscreen, How do I fix this?
[11:21] <Veinor> and be sure to make a backup, just in case.
[11:22] <joerack> thanks a load amaranth, I though it was a wrong resolution
[11:22] <theAtom> what progam is used for webcam?
[11:22] <prophet> Is there a channel for extreme beginners for kdevelop?  I am having a boat load of problems.
[11:22] <pi3> jdong: just rebooted and everything seems to work ok except for one thing: I see no desktop bars I mean the one with the open programs
[11:22] <simen> Can someone try to assist me with a sound problem? (no sound with 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller)
[11:23] <theAtom> I compiled drivers for my webcam.  Now what do I do to use webcam?
[11:23] <Seveas> !repeat | theAtom
[11:23] <ubotu> theAtom: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:23] <Veinor> pi3: do you see the panels at all, or are the top and bottom of your screen just showing your wallpaper?
[11:23] <theAtom> Seveas, :P
[11:23] <theAtom> !webcam
[11:23] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:23] <darkchr0n0s_> simen : on a laptop ?
[11:23] <Taza> So a new ubuntu will be released tomorrow?
[11:24] <theAtom> Seveas, sghould I use camorama?
[11:24] <prophet> join #kdevelop
[11:24] <theAtom> !camorama
[11:24] <darkchr0n0s_> Taza : 30+ hours
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camorama - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <Taza> I was just installing Gentoo, it fsck'd up, and I decided to go with Ubuntu
[11:24] <Taza> darkchr0n0s_:kthx
[11:24] <Veinor> Taza: two days from now, I believe
[11:24] <freeman163> blast
[11:24] <Taza> Says 1 day to go on the site
[11:24] <sahl> I can't get my new Logitech Quickcam Go webcam work under fiesty , any help ?
[11:24] <prophet> quit
[11:24] <freeman163> ubuntu ceased being able to read my windows drive
[11:24] <Seveas> Taza, one day and several hours
[11:24] <Taza> Mabbe I should go with Slacktough
[11:24] <pi3> Veinor: I don't see neither of both panel bars, I don't understand what you mean
[11:24] <Seveas> Taza, count on at least 36 hours from now
[11:25] <Colro> is anyone here successfully using the ATI 8.40.4 driver? the repos still have 8.37 and I kind of want to upgrade
[11:25] <altair_> theAtom, is you do a search in synaptic there about about 6 - 7 programs for using webcams
[11:25] <darkchr0n0s_> Colro : i am using 8.40
[11:25] <PriceChild> Taza, #ubuntu-release-party :)
[11:25] <pi3> Veinor: if it helps, the "effect" of the maximized windows closes to the upside of the screen
[11:25] <Colro> darkch0n0s: no problems I assume? :)
[11:25] <pipegeek> Hmm
[11:25] <pipegeek> just installed the RC in vmware
[11:26] <horde_> can anyone help?  I'm trying to set up a user account for ssh/scp purposes.  But I want to keep the user in a single directory with read/write privileges.
[11:26] <pipegeek> .... the printer dialog is far more confusing.... what happened?
[11:26] <Veinor> pi3: so, where the list of programs normally is (at the bottom of the screen), do you see a black or grey or whatever bar?
[11:26] <simen> darkchr0n0s_: Yes. on a laptop.
[11:26] <darkchr0n0s_> Colro : works fine w/o compiz
[11:26] <pipegeek> It's a better interface to cups, if you know cups, but it seems worse from a general usability perspective
[11:26] <carlosaugustoare> Hi
[11:27] <darkchr0n0s_> simen : i can try, but not sure.. can you give me output of uname -r ?
[11:27] <pi3> Veinor: no, no bar at all
[11:27] <carlosaugustoare> Hi = Hola
[11:27] <cacio> ciao a tutti
[11:27] <darkchr0n0s_> carlosaugustoare : we know
[11:27] <Seveas> !it | cacio
[11:27] <ubotu> cacio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:27] <Veinor> pi3: when you press alt-f2, do you get a dialog box?
[11:28] <pi3> Veinor: yep, that's how I opened the IRC client ;)
[11:28] <simen> darkchr0n0s_: I've been using windows until recently so basically, you have to tell me how I give you the "oputput of uname - r"
[11:28] <Veinor> pi3: cool. try running gnome-panel
[11:29] <dibblego> does gutsy use the new ATI driver?
[11:29] <darkchr0n0s_> simen : can you open a terminal ?
[11:29] <Seveas> dibblego, no, it's nowhere near usable yet
[11:29] <simen> darkchr0n0s_: yeah.
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> Um, how do you address an e-mail to someone not in your address book in Evolution?  Particularly, multiple people at once?  (In thunderbird I just hit enter and type it in)
[11:30] <darkchr0n0s_> k then open one.. and type uname -r
[11:30] <dibblego> Seveas, you mean the driver is not usable right? (not gutsy)
[11:30] <Seveas> dibblego, correct
[11:30] <darkchr0n0s_> simen : k then open one.. and type uname -r
[11:30] <dibblego> Seveas, thanks
[11:30] <Veinor> pi3: did that help?
[11:30] <zomgoblinz> how do I list all packages installed that start with gnome* ?
[11:30] <zomgoblinz> using apt
[11:30] <pi3> Veinor: nothing seems to happen, although when I alt-tab I can see a black rectangle (telling where the application is on the bar)
[11:30] <fujin_> dpkg -l|grep gnome
[11:31] <pi3> Veinor: If this helps, this is the first boot using Gutsy
[11:31] <simen> darkchr0n0s_:2.6.22-14-generic
[11:31] <Veinor> pi3: well, for gutsy, I think you need to be in #ubuntu+1
[11:31] <chem199> can some one tell me how to print more than one page to a ps file with cat, in jpilot it only seems to print one page
[11:31] <darkchr0n0s_> simen : you have speakers/headphones ?
[11:32] <pi3> Veinor: ok, I'll try there.. thanks
[11:32] <darkchr0n0s_> simen : quick quick
[11:32] <simen> darkchr0n0s_: yes, integrated speakers. i have tried headphones too.
[11:32] <acidhere> hello everyone
[11:32] <Krampus> is there a way to make apt work with an autoconfiguring proxy?  I have a local mirror I'd like to use but still have it grab security updates through the proxy.
[11:33] <darkchr0n0s_> simen : headphones not working :(, coz i have the same problem with 2.6.22.12-generic, headphones work fine tho
[11:33] <horde_> how do i keep a user out of everything but his home directory?
[11:33] <simen> darkchr0n0s_: Aw...
[11:33] <darkchr0n0s_> simen : i am afraid i can't help you anymore :(
[11:34] <Veinor> horde_: make his home directory /? :P
[11:34] <ryanakca> why won't my ssh + key work? http://pastebin.ca/739088 ... I went 'scp ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub host:', and then on host, I went 'mkdir .ssh && chmod 700 .ssh && cat id_dsa.pub >> .ssh/authorized_keys && chmod 600 .ssh/authorized_keys'... what am I missing?
[11:34] <simen> darkchr0n0s_: Ok, thanks for trying ;)
[11:34] <horde_> Veinor: uh, not exactly what I was looking for :)
[11:35] <horde_> I know nothing about admin.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[11:35] <chem199> horde_, they cant access anything in any higher folders
[11:36] <theAtom> !webcam
[11:36] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:36] <horde_> chem199: yes, I want to lock them into their home directory, no higher.
[11:36] <chem199> horde_, do you just not want the user to access higher via naultis and the cli
[11:36] <Eedge> when I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I dont get the option to auto configure?
[11:36] <Intrepd> man adobe's flash plugin is a disaster
[11:36] <Eedge> ...
[11:37] <erUSUL> Eedge: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[11:37] <markelhas> hi ppl, how can i make my ndis config permanet?
[11:37] <Eedge> Ok, will do... just rebooting :)
[11:37] <horde_> chem199: I'm having trouble with my FTP server so I'm trying to let my buddy scp a file.  But I don't want to leave my whole system open to view, etc.
[11:37] <chem199> horde_, for ssh
[11:38] <chem199> horde_, goto the system menu and go to admin then to users groups
[11:38] <horde_> chem199: yes, ssh
[11:39] <horde_> chem199: ok, I'm there.
[11:39] <acidhere> someone with spare time want to try to help me set up my dev enviroment?
[11:40] <chem199> horde_, there you can close out access to external drives and other things
[11:40] <fujin_> apt-get install build-essential
[11:40] <acidhere> lol
[11:40] <chem199> horde_, try this article http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/openssh-deny-or-restrict-access-to-users-and-groups.html
[11:40] <acidhere> lol im not that stupid
[11:40] <acidhere> but thanks
[11:40] <horde_> chem199: many thanks!
[11:41] <axjv> Does anyone know how to make a clickable shortcut to execute an sh file?
[11:41] <chem199> horde_, sure, sorry couldnt help more
[11:41] <fujin_> acidhere: then you'll have to be a bit more specific
[11:41] <acidhere> k
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> axjv: "add launcher" I think i9s what you want
[11:41] <Eedge> erUSUL: Thanks alot :)) can go higher than 800x600 now: What does -phigh do then?
[11:41] <acidhere> my gcc does not find the .a im trying to link to
[11:42] <acidhere> even though its there
[11:42] <axjv> tonyyarusso: I tried that, but I'm not sure what to put for 'command'.
[11:42] <acidhere> prolly some sort of syntax thing i dont understand
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> axjv: sh /path/to/file.sh
[11:42] <xris_> Does anyone know how to change the repositories that the "update-manager" uses for updating?
[11:42] <axjv> tonyyarusso: Didn't work...
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> axjv: Check the "run in terminal" box if you want to see output from it
[11:42] <fujin_> xris_: vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:42] <horde_> chem199: no worries
[11:43] <Yahooadam> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 - appears to be corrupt, any way to fix it/get it fixed ?
[11:43] <xris_> fujin_: I don't think that works for the "update-manager" as it comments out all those sources once you start the process, and then uses different ones anyway
[11:43] <carlhako> xris_, google for ubuntu sources.list theres a site that will make you a new sources.list :)
[11:43] <axjv> tonyyarusso: I don't see a run in terminal...
[11:43] <acidhere> mm
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> axjv: ah, it's in "Type" nowdays.
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> "Application in Terminal"
[11:44] <Eedge> oh I see, it makes it only ask me high priority questions :) ok
[11:44] <Eedge> heh
[11:44] <xris_> carlhako: I alreayd have my own custom sources.list but when I do update-manager to upgrade to gutsy, it just uses archive.ubuntu.com
[11:44] <axjv> tonyyarusso: Kay, looking.
[11:44] <neverblue2> how can you find the gateway on a box (i have sshed into it) ?
[11:45] <fujin_> route
[11:45] <kane77> wow.. it CAN suspend..  however after restoring from suspend I get blank screen.. so I was waiting for a while and was pressing keys and after about 5 minutes the password prompt poped up...
[11:45] <axjv> tonyyarusso:  Terminal comes up and dies.
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> axjv: boo :(
[11:46] <chonny_star> hey
[11:46] <axjv> I've been trying to get this to work for a few days now...
[11:46] <axjv> Maybe 'Location'?
[11:46] <Viking> I was curious if anyone has fixed the blank screen on bootup when using an nvidia 8800 gts?
[11:47] <chonny_star> can i have some help here?
[11:48] <acidhere> yeah prolly
[11:48] <acidhere> just ask your questoin
[11:48] <acidhere> thats what i did
[11:48] <Viking> I was curious if anyone has fixed the blank screen on bootup when using an nvidia 8800 gts?
[11:48] <axjv> Does anyone know how to make a clickable shortcut to execute an sh file?
[11:49] <neverblue2> thanks fujin_
[11:49] <chonny_star> i'm on ubuntu 7.04 and i can't use my usb ports : mouse, usb key ...
[11:49] <chonny_star> nothing happens
[11:49] <neverblue2> lsusb
[11:49] <chonny_star> i added usbcore, usb-storage in etc/modules
[11:49] <kane77> how do I find out if I have swap mounted?
[11:49] <Eedge> erk, say, how do I disable desktop effects from term?
[11:50] <neverblue2> do you see your devices, when you enter that command?
[11:50] <Yahooadam> i had that before, faulty motherboard, usb 1.1 would work but not USB2 chonny
[11:50] <chonny_star> lsusb -> nthg
[11:50] <dercl> #join radiotux
[11:50] <dercl> join radiotux
[11:50] <dercl> sorry
[11:50] <alindeman> Is the archive site (archive.canonical.com / us.archive.ubuntu.com) up?  Am I just having issues on my end?
[11:51] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:51] <Viking> does anyone have any experience with the blank screen issue when having an nvidia 8800 card installed?
[11:51] <rapha> I want to install Gutsy Final tomorrow - but is there a way to get a list of packages I have installed now, so I can just apt-get them all in one swoop after install (no, I don't want to upgrade)
[11:51] <Eedge> erk, say, how do I disable desktop effects from term?
[11:52] <Yahooadam> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2
[11:52] <chris__> how do i use gdm to log into an ubuntu that is next to me?
[11:52] <chris__> it says remote login via..., i enter the ip it says no hosts found...
[11:53] <Viking> Hasn't anyone here had the blank screen on boot up issue???
[11:53] <Yahooadam> chris_, did you enable it ?
[11:53] <chris__> Yahooadam, how?
[11:53] <chris__> and i can only access the computer via ssh...
[11:53] <Yahooadam> chris_ system -> admin -> remote desktop
[11:54] <chris__> Yahooadam, how do i enable it via ssh?
[11:55] <Yahooadam> dunno chris_ - you only need to do it once ...
[11:55] <chris__> Yahooadam, i don't have a monitor on that system i am trying to remote into....
[11:55] <Yahooadam> crhis_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66616
[11:56] <[chr0n0s] > any idea how to fix this http://pastebin.ca/739124
[11:56] <theAtom> got my webcam working but its UPSIDE DOWN :P
[11:56] <Yahooadam> chris_ probably easier just ot plug in a screen for a sec and turn it on, then its done :p
[11:56] <Viking> Come on guys, someone here must have an 8800 GTS and get a blank screen on booting up!
[11:57] <MasterShrek> Viking, how did you install the driver?
[11:57] <Heaven> hy
[11:57] <Yahooadam> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 - appears to be corrupt, any way to fix it/get it fixed ?
[11:57] <Veinor> theAtom: turn your webcam upside-down. problem solved.
[11:58] <chris__> Yahooadam, (vino:26354): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:   :(, and i used the -X option....
[11:58] <Heaven> how do i change the directory to the desktop (from terminal) what is the command line?
[11:58] <chris__> Heaven, cd ~/Desktop
[11:58] <rapha> chris__: has to be allowed on the host comp
[11:58] <chris__> rapha, how do i enable it?
[11:58] <purity_control> heaven cd; cd Desktop
[11:58] <underwatercow> join #ubuntu+1
[11:59] <Heaven> thanx
[11:59] <Viking> well, on my other computer it must install a default ati driver, then I use the restricted driver manager to install ati's driver, but with my main machine, I can't even get to a desktop
 theAtom: turn your webcam upside-down. problem solved. <-- not possible!  buolt into my laptot
[11:59] <Veinor> theAtom: turn yourself upside down then.
[11:59] <Yahooadam> theAtom, turn your laptop upside down
[11:59] <carlhako> chris__, i think its in /etc/ssh/sshd_config uncomment xforwarding
[11:59] <Veinor> in all seriousness, no idea.
[11:59] <theAtom> gives me headaches :P
[11:59] <MasterShrek> Viking, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:59] <carlhako> then restart ssh /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[11:59] <chris__> webmin: Allow X11 connection forwarding yes
[12:00] <chris__> so its enabled....
[12:00] <Heaven> and now how do i run a file named equinox3d-0.9.1-2-Linux ?
[12:00] <Viking> I tried installing using the alternate disc, and everything installed fine, but when booting normally, it goes blank before it shows any GUI
[12:00] <chris__> X11Forwarding yes <new line> X11DisplayOffset 10
[12:01] <Heaven> wait wait...
[12:01] <Viking> I've tried changing the driver from nv to vesa to nividia to vga, but nothing helps
[12:01] <ryanakca> why won't my ssh + key work? http://pastebin.ca/739088 ... I went 'scp ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub host:', and then on host, I went 'mkdir .ssh && chmod 700 .ssh && cat id_dsa.pub >> .ssh/authorized_keys && chmod 600 .ssh/authorized_keys'... what am I missing? the AuthorizedKeysFile line is commented out in sshd_config . I don't have root access.
[12:01] <Heaven> i tried to change the directory again from desktop to a folder on the desktop named equinox3d-0.9.1-2-Linux and sais he can't find the path
[12:02] <jimmygoon> How flexible is the encrypted functionality of LVM? Like can I have it come up with a custom message as it prompts for the password?
[12:02] <freqmod> Hello, does anybody know how to make apt fulfill a dependency without having the packages for it
[12:04] <joerack> Hello, anybody can help me on a black screen recurrance using beryl?
[12:04] <Viking> MasterShrek, I'll give your idea a shot. thanks!
[12:04] <kitche> joerack: nvidia?
[12:04] <kerwinz> ALguien sabe q ES SPAM?
[12:04] <joerack> kitchie yes