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emilsedghis there any process going on Kubuntu website? I really wish to be able to help there, kubuntu website is not really good15:56
Riddellemilsedgh: yes, talk to mhb, nixternal and ryanakca15:58
emilsedghRiddell: thanks :)15:58
emilsedghmhb, nixternal and ryanakca: do you need any help on kubuntu website?15:59
Riddellemilsedgh: I guess they're all away just now, but hang around, I'm sure they will need the help16:01
emilsedghRiddell: ok, im staying16:01
emilsedghand a question, dunno where should i ask, but why dont you guys just change the default icon theme? everyone is tired of crystal svg icons...16:04
emonkey-freally? I'm not ... (no I'm not a developer)16:06
nosrednaekimcrystal is still the top rated icon set on kde-look.... peoplemust like them16:06
emonkey-fOk, maybe because I've never seen anoter one16:06
nosrednaekimemonkey-f: try out nuvola (its int the repositories)16:07
emonkey-fI will, thx for hint16:07
emilsedghnosrednaekim: they are so old, kde-look's rating isnt really the best way to choose bests...its an old website, for example nuovext is a very nice iconset...16:08
Riddellemilsedgh: it's because we like to be a KDE distro as much as possible, so w follow the KDE look and feel16:13
emilsedghRiddell: sure, Im a kde fanatic myself ;), but KDE's default configurations 'Are' bad and they should be changed...as you changed default wallpaper, widget style and windec...16:15
emonkey-pfdoving: thx I'll try it immediately18:59
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fdovingemonkey-p: probably need to force some version-things.18:59
emonkey-pk18:59
milianfdoving: worked for me19:01
milianthanks a million19:01
emonkey-pfdoving: works here at least on two of three computers.19:19
fdovingsounds good.19:21
emilsedgh_mhb: ping19:25
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emilsedghRiddell: should i get main or trunk branch of website? (just wanna take a look)19:54
nixternalRiddell: getting ready to work on the release notes for the site...any requests?20:00
nixternalemilsedgh: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-website/kubuntu-theme-v120:00
nixternalas it stands, we are planning on a drupal setup similar to ubuntu.com, just blooo :)20:01
emilsedghnixternal: are you planning to start a drupal website for kubuntu?20:01
nixternalalready started20:01
emilsedghnice20:01
* emilsedgh is going to check it out20:02
nixternalhttp://mhb.ath.cx/kubuntu/nonsite/20:03
emilsedghnixternal: and you want any help? Im a php programmer with a little (very little) drupal module's knowledge20:03
nixternalthat is what is up there so far...we haven't started hacking on the CSS..I plan on doing so here within the next couple of days...I am tying up so loose ends personally20:03
nixternalemilsedgh: talk to mhb, as he is the one leading up the project20:03
nixternalphp help is OK, how about CSS/themeing?20:04
Riddellnixternal: KDE 3.5.8 and 4 beta 4 are obviously highlights20:04
emilsedghnixternal: a little, as much as every web-developer knows20:04
nixternalRiddell: what are those? :p20:05
nixternalbeta 4?20:05
nixternalyou mean 320:05
seeleRiddell: yes, i put it on my calendar20:10
Riddellseele: ok, I can't be there but jono and/or jcastro will20:11
nixternalI see Mr. Carmony has switched to Ubuntu...20:11
* nixternal wonders how long before he applies with Canonical if he hasn't already20:11
Riddellnixternal: 3 it is.  I lose count20:11
nixternalhehe20:11
nixternalyou had me lose count as well20:11
Riddellnixternal: who's he?20:11
nixternalI had to look20:11
nixternalRiddell: former CEO of Linspire who made the deal with the devil20:12
nixternalhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57792720:12
nixternalhe is in our forums telling about his love for Ubuntu20:12
Riddellinteresting20:14
emilsedghnixternal: is there any Todo list for new site?20:14
manchickenWow.  This looks like he's already begun marketing for Canonical.20:15
nixternalemilsedgh: dunno, would have to ask mhb20:15
DaSkreechmanchicken: Who?20:15
manchickenKevin Carmony.20:15
nixternalmanchicken: which is scary, everyone knows the reason he isn't with Linspire is because of his deal...I hope he doesn't do marketing, because ever since he joined Linspire, they lost all of their big deals..ie Walmart20:15
manchickenYeah.20:16
nixternalWalmart is what boosted Linspire20:16
manchickenThe walmart deal would have been *VERY* good for Free Software.20:16
manchickenKubuntu should work with walmart.  They're the humanitarian and environmentalist corporation now, did you hear?20:16
nixternalwhich surprised me, because they were constantly selling out of their computers..and they were all Linux..which was cool20:16
nixternalmanchicken: hardy har har20:16
nixternalyou watch that on HBO?20:17
manchickenWalmart is doing good things in two areas that I'm liking them for: $4 prescriptions, and promoting the hell out of compact-fluorescent bulbs.20:17
nixternalOK, fill in the blank "Kubuntu 7.10 - __________________________"20:17
nixternalneed a catchy title20:17
nixternalthe previous was "Kubuntu 7.04 - Feistier than Ever" :)20:17
manchickenWillfull Walmart20:18
nixternalheh20:18
manchickenHave you got the gutsy?20:18
nixternalKubuntu 7.10 - The Gutsiest Move Yet || Kubuntu 7.10 - No More Monkeying Around20:18
manchickenKubuntu 7.10 - What the F is a Gibbon?20:19
nixternala monkey20:19
manchickenYeah, I know.  But there will be that question.20:19
manchickenBelieve you me.20:19
davmor2kubuntu 7.10 putting the K in Kicking A***20:19
nixternalhehe20:19
manchickenKubuntu 7.10 - Good?... or Gutsy?20:19
nixternalKubuntu 7.10 - Putting the K in Ubuntu :)20:20
manchickenheh20:20
nixternalooh, I kind of like that20:20
_StefanS_yep20:20
_StefanS_sounds good20:20
nixternalKubuntu 7.10 - Sticking it to the man!20:20
manchickenOr Kubuntu 7.10 - Because KDE is still Better.20:20
_StefanS_nixternal: I didnt know linspire ever had a boost? :)20:20
nixternalhahahahah20:20
davmor2Kubuntu 7.10 - If god had a desktop20:20
nixternal_StefanS_: ya, Linspire was really big when they first cut their deal with Walmart20:20
manchickenKubuntu 7.10 - Use it or I'll Eat this Kitten.20:20
nixternaldavmor2: hahahahahahahahah20:20
_StefanS_nixternal: when it was called lindows probably :)20:21
nixternalholy smokes, those are great release day blog titles20:21
nixternal_StefanS_: yes20:21
manchickenOOH!  davmor2: "Kubuntu 7.10 - Because Gutsiness is next to Godliness"20:21
manchickenthere ya go.20:21
nixternalI tend to forget about that idiotic move, but it made them a ton of money20:21
manchickenMarketing genius at work here folks.20:21
nixternalya, I don't think religion is the best thing to throw in20:22
davmor2Kubuntu 7.10 - Kutsy Kibbon20:22
manchickenYES!20:22
manchickenThat's it.20:22
nixternalhahaha, I had that20:22
manchickenYou should totally use that.20:22
emilsedghnixternal: which drupal version is used there?20:23
nixternalok, back in a few...going to work on these release notes20:23
nixternal5.x20:23
DaSkreechKubuntu 7.10 - forget Feisty! Fling Feces20:25
davmor2Kubuntu 7.10 - PURE KENIUS20:25
manchickenKubuntu 7.10 - Go for the Gutsy20:25
manchickenGrab for the Gutsy -- stolen from Miller20:26
manchickenKubuntu 7.10 -- Does this look infected to you?20:26
DaSkreechKubuntu 12.04 - OmG p0niez!20:26
manchickenStick some LOLCODE in there.20:27
davmor2Kubuntu 7.10 - There Be Dragons Still20:27
manchickenKubuntu 7.10 -- No Animals were Harmed in the Making of this Distro (except for nixternal, but that was an accident.)20:27
manchickenKubuntu 7.10 - USDA Certified Organic Gutsy20:28
DaSkreechThough we won't swear to it20:28
manchickener, Kubuntu 7.10 - 100% USDA Certified Organic Gutsy20:28
davmor2Kubuntu 7.10 - Forget the Gibbon go with the Dragon20:29
DaSkreechKubuntu 7.10 - Monkey with this!!20:31
manchickenKubuntu 7.10 -- Mmm... Monkeys...20:31
davmor2Kubuntu 7.10 - For Monkey's that breath fire20:31
DaSkreechKubuntu 7.10 - Cause honestly Why wouldn't you?20:32
manchickenKubuntu 7.10 - Or else the Terrorists have already won.20:34
Riddellmanchicken: did you get a .deb?20:34
DaSkreechWouldn't we lose the Terrorist crowd with that?20:34
manchickenRiddell: Yes.20:35
manchickenRiddell: Would you like it?20:35
davmor2DaSkreech: would tick, tick ...... Boom do a better job :)20:36
Riddellmanchicken: yeah, could you attach to the bug?20:36
DaSkreechdavmor2: Naaaw sounds like a Vista ad20:36
davmor2No that would be "Bad to the bone" ;)20:37
emilsedghnixternal: and anywhere that i could get a copy of kubuntu-specific drupal database and files...? i think mhb is not here yet20:37
manchickenRighto.20:37
Riddellhi ndrea20:40
ndreagood day/evening20:40
manchickenRiddell: Uploading now.  It's big because I included all debs.20:45
ryanakcaemilsedgh: pong20:59
ryanakcaemilsedgh: umm... just a sec :)21:00
emilsedghryanakca: hi, i just want to help on kubuntu website, i get the drupal theme (and installed it on a drupal), is there any todo list? (ok)21:00
ryanakcaemilsedgh: ok, so you got the theme from the bzr branch?21:01
emilsedghryanakca: yes, i have it21:01
ryanakcagood :)21:01
ryanakcaUmm...21:01
emilsedghryanakca: and, im a php programmer with a little knowlegde of drupal modules... and sure a little xhtml/css/js21:02
nixternalRiddell: Desktop (KDE 3.5.8), File Management (Dolphin), Office Suite (OO.o 2.3), Personal Information Management (KDE PIM), Multimedia (Amarok & Kaffeine), Photo Management (digiKam), Package Management (GDebi KDE), KDE 4 (beta 3), and WinFOSS.  <-- how is that for "What's New?"21:19
_StefanS_nixternal: damn nice I would say :)21:20
_StefanS_kde 3.5.8 is really cool aswell.. havent seen anyone else having that included21:20
Riddellnixternal: some of those aren't new, just call them highlights21:20
Riddelland beta 3 should be somewhere21:20
Riddellnixternal: oh, jambi and qyoto would be nice to mention21:21
Riddell(in universe, usual caveats)21:21
nixternalRiddell: beta 3 is in there21:21
nixternalRiddell: so I can change the heading name for them to "Highlights" instead of "What's New?"21:22
nixternalI like Highlights better imho21:22
Riddelloh aye21:22
nixternalaye aye captain21:23
Riddellnixternal: we also want the final upgrade instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades21:26
mhbemilsedgh: hi21:27
nixternalya, I have them in there already21:27
Riddellyou rock21:27
emilsedghhi mhb21:27
nixternalyes, I am a rock, with a hole in my finger, which makes it hard to type21:27
emilsedghmhb: could i /msg?21:28
Lurekopete started crashing (MSN) after recent update - is this already known issue?21:29
mhbemilsedgh: sure21:29
mhbLure: it is21:30
RiddellLure: very much21:30
LureRiddell: how can a simple kdelibs break kopete!?21:31
Riddellkdelibs can break all of kde21:31
LureRiddell: I know that, but only https fix was changed in last upload?21:31
Riddellbug 153500 has the fix21:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 153500 in kdenetwork "Kopete crashes on startup" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15350021:31
LureRiddell: will this get in for gutsy?21:32
RiddellLure: alas no21:33
LureRiddell: so we need first sru ;-)21:33
Riddellyeah21:34
manchickenRiddell: (I uploaded those debs by the way)21:39
manchickenI don't know how clean they are, I didn't use pbuilder.21:39
Riddellmanchicken: thanks21:41
Riddellthat's not too important21:41
mhbhmm, how come it broke so late in the process?21:43
mhbI am quite certain I could log into Kopete with KDE 3.5.821:43
Riddell3.5.8 had another bug which we fixed and in the process broke this21:43
mhbhmm21:44
mhbwe're not going to be praised for this :-(21:44
Dekans|screenhow do we use a debdiff22:05
Dekans|screen?22:05
RiddellDekans|screen: for the kopete issue?22:05
Dekans|screenyes, i saw your bugfix22:05
RiddellDekans|screen: download the .deb from comment 1922:05
Dekans|screenoh thanks22:08
Dekans|screensorry, i should look entirely the LP entry before asking for help :p22:08
LureRiddell: are DVD candidates already available?22:39
RiddellLure: yes22:39
LureRiddell: on standard location on cdimage.u.c?22:40
Riddellyes22:40
nixternalall I have left are screenshots22:40
nixternalyay!22:40
nixternalRiddell: I just uploaded the 7.10-release.php to the bzr repo if you want to take a quick look at it...I haven't gone through and debugged it yet, I am working on that now22:41
ScottKRiddell: In the tribe/RC notes when we've talked about the gpg/smime by default, we've referred to the work around people who installed Feisty fresh need to do to get gpg.conf back.  I think that should be release noted too.22:42
RiddellScottK: talk to slangsek22:43
ScottKRiddell: OK.22:43
davmor2Riddell: hows thing's?22:45
Riddelldavmor2: being flooded with kopete bugs but otherwise it all works22:48
davmor2damn22:53
nosrednaekimhey... I saw that there are KDE4beta3 packages up on the gutsy mirrors, but the export instructions for beta2 don't seem to work with them22:55
davmor2Riddell: what the hell did you go and break that for :P22:56
_StefanS_nosrednaekim: my experience exactly..22:56
Riddellarguably it's better than https being broken22:56
_StefanS_nosrednaekim: does work for me either22:56
LureRiddell: so, is gutsy-proposed already working?22:56
Riddellnosrednaekim: what didn't work about them?22:56
davmor2Riddell: hahaha true.22:57
RiddellLure: publisher is on manual, nothing will be built until tomorrow afternoon22:57
LureRiddell: ok, was just suprised that it can be already uploaded22:57
Riddellit's uploaded, just not doing very much22:57
nosrednaekimwell, I'm not sure if its the export lines, but it fails halfway through loading22:58
nosrednaekimwith the line "startkde: running shutdown scripts..."22:58
nixternalRiddell: http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/kwww/announcements/7.10-release.php23:00
nixternalif you want to read it over23:00
Riddellnixternal: upgrade instructions need updating https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades23:01
nixternalI did update them23:02
nixternalI copied directly from that page23:02
Riddellnixternal: noo, that's the old instructions23:02
Riddell"Network upgrade for Kubuntu desktops (recommended)" section23:02
nixternalso do the network upgrade instructions instead?23:03
Riddelldo the final upgrade instructions, not the RC ones23:03
Riddellnixternal: the requirements have gone up too23:03
nixternaloh23:03
nixternalOK, easy enough23:03
Riddellrequirements here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/ReleaseNotes23:04
nosrednaekim_StefanS_: where does KDE4 fail for you?23:05
_StefanS_nosrednaekim: well I didnt investigate it alot, just saw it didnt worked with the instructions23:05
_StefanS_nosrednaekim: cant test it now anyways23:05
nosrednaekim_StefanS_: ah ok... do you remember where it failed?before after or during the boot splash?23:06
_StefanS_after the bootsplash I think23:06
nosrednaekim_StefanS_: oh... hmm23:07
_StefanS_nosrednaekim: well I know its not much of a help ;)23:08
nosrednaekim_StefanS_: thanks anyway.. i'll check into it more later23:08
_StefanS_same  here23:08
DaSkreechnixternal: You are changing those pics right?23:14
nixternalyes23:14
DaSkreechBeta 3 have an announce date?23:16
RiddellI just published the announcement23:16
DaSkreechDamn!23:17
Riddellwhy?23:17
* DaSkreech kicks his RSS feed23:17
DaSkreechOtherwise I woudn't have asked :)23:17
Riddellkubuntu.org is waiting on its cache to refresh23:18
nixternalwth is wrong with bzr? I can't push or commit23:24
DaSkreechnixternal: I must be really drugged up23:27
DaSkreechI kept looking at the pictures saying aww that looks nice till I hit Amarok then I was thinking "Umm that doesn't look like Amarok at all!" that looks like Kontact.. wait thats not kontact at all!!23:28
Riddellpossible the data centre is being killed already23:28
Riddellkwwii: fancy doing us a release image?23:28
RiddellI like the one we had for edgy http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php23:28
kwwiiI am sure we can do something along that line with the new usplash/kdm graphics23:30
kwwiiRiddell: when do you need it by?23:30
davmor2kwwii: yesterday :)23:31
DaSkreechmidnight I would suppose23:31
kwwiilol, midnight my time is already done23:31
kwwiiRiddell: I can get something to you tomorrow midday, ok with that?23:32
kwwiisame kinda thing, new bg, new text with 7.1023:32
kwwiiwell, the new text style from kdm, etc23:33
kwwiiI am done for tonight....too many extranious projects going on at the same time23:34
* DaSkreech laughs at Konqui draped over the 423:34
DaSkreechDoes Beta 3 have a kode name?23:35
nixternalhey, we need a KDE 4 beta 3 screenshot (1024x768)23:37
nixternaland we need the dist-upgrade screenshot as well23:37
Riddellkwwii: about midday is right23:37
Riddellnixternal: dot.kde.org links to some23:38
DaSkreechI shoudl probably reinstall kubuntu-desktop when 7.10 ships23:41
davmor2DaSkreech: It's in a few hours dude download it now while the servers work :)23:42
DaSkreechdavmor2: Naw I'll hit it up Friday23:42
DaSkreechIn case Strigi goes nuts again23:42
davmor2:D or like Kopete get's broke ;)23:43
nixternalRiddell: roger that23:44
DaSkreechNaw that I'm saving for KDE4 :)23:44
davmor2night all and happy buntu day :)23:58

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