[15:56] <emilsedgh> is there any process going on Kubuntu website? I really wish to be able to help there, kubuntu website is not really good
[15:58] <Riddell> emilsedgh: yes, talk to mhb, nixternal and ryanakca
[15:58] <emilsedgh> Riddell: thanks :)
[15:59] <emilsedgh> mhb, nixternal and ryanakca: do you need any help on kubuntu website?
[16:01] <Riddell> emilsedgh: I guess they're all away just now, but hang around, I'm sure they will need the help
[16:01] <emilsedgh> Riddell: ok, im staying
[16:04] <emilsedgh> and a question, dunno where should i ask, but why dont you guys just change the default icon theme? everyone is tired of crystal svg icons...
[16:06] <emonkey-f> really? I'm not ... (no I'm not a developer)
[16:06] <nosrednaekim> crystal is still the top rated icon set on kde-look.... peoplemust like them
[16:06] <emonkey-f> Ok, maybe because I've never seen anoter one
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> emonkey-f: try out nuvola (its int the repositories)
[16:07] <emonkey-f> I will, thx for hint
[16:08] <emilsedgh> nosrednaekim: they are so old, kde-look's rating isnt really the best way to choose bests...its an old website, for example nuovext is a very nice iconset...
[16:13] <Riddell> emilsedgh: it's because we like to be a KDE distro as much as possible, so w follow the KDE look and feel
[16:15] <emilsedgh> Riddell: sure, Im a kde fanatic myself ;), but KDE's default configurations 'Are' bad and they should be changed...as you changed default wallpaper, widget style and windec...
[18:59] <emonkey-p> fdoving: thx I'll try it immediately
[18:59] <fdoving> emonkey-p: probably need to force some version-things.
[18:59] <emonkey-p> k
[19:01] <milian> fdoving: worked for me
[19:01] <milian> thanks a million
[19:19] <emonkey-p> fdoving: works here at least on two of three computers.
[19:21] <fdoving> sounds good.
[19:25] <emilsedgh_> mhb: ping
[19:54] <emilsedgh> Riddell: should i get main or trunk branch of website? (just wanna take a look)
[20:00] <nixternal> Riddell: getting ready to work on the release notes for the site...any requests?
[20:00] <nixternal> emilsedgh: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-website/kubuntu-theme-v1
[20:01] <nixternal> as it stands, we are planning on a drupal setup similar to ubuntu.com, just blooo :)
[20:01] <emilsedgh> nixternal: are you planning to start a drupal website for kubuntu?
[20:01] <nixternal> already started
[20:01] <emilsedgh> nice
[20:02]  * emilsedgh is going to check it out
[20:03] <nixternal> http://mhb.ath.cx/kubuntu/nonsite/
[20:03] <emilsedgh> nixternal: and you want any help? Im a php programmer with a little (very little) drupal module's knowledge
[20:03] <nixternal> that is what is up there so far...we haven't started hacking on the CSS..I plan on doing so here within the next couple of days...I am tying up so loose ends personally
[20:03] <nixternal> emilsedgh: talk to mhb, as he is the one leading up the project
[20:04] <nixternal> php help is OK, how about CSS/themeing?
[20:04] <Riddell> nixternal: KDE 3.5.8 and 4 beta 4 are obviously highlights
[20:04] <emilsedgh> nixternal: a little, as much as every web-developer knows
[20:05] <nixternal> Riddell: what are those? :p
[20:05] <nixternal> beta 4?
[20:05] <nixternal> you mean 3
[20:10] <seele> Riddell: yes, i put it on my calendar
[20:11] <Riddell> seele: ok, I can't be there but jono and/or jcastro will
[20:11] <nixternal> I see Mr. Carmony has switched to Ubuntu...
[20:11]  * nixternal wonders how long before he applies with Canonical if he hasn't already
[20:11] <Riddell> nixternal: 3 it is.  I lose count
[20:11] <nixternal> hehe
[20:11] <nixternal> you had me lose count as well
[20:11] <Riddell> nixternal: who's he?
[20:11] <nixternal> I had to look
[20:12] <nixternal> Riddell: former CEO of Linspire who made the deal with the devil
[20:12] <nixternal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=577927
[20:12] <nixternal> he is in our forums telling about his love for Ubuntu
[20:14] <Riddell> interesting
[20:14] <emilsedgh> nixternal: is there any Todo list for new site?
[20:15] <manchicken> Wow.  This looks like he's already begun marketing for Canonical.
[20:15] <nixternal> emilsedgh: dunno, would have to ask mhb
[20:15] <DaSkreech> manchicken: Who?
[20:15] <manchicken> Kevin Carmony.
[20:15] <nixternal> manchicken: which is scary, everyone knows the reason he isn't with Linspire is because of his deal...I hope he doesn't do marketing, because ever since he joined Linspire, they lost all of their big deals..ie Walmart
[20:16] <manchicken> Yeah.
[20:16] <nixternal> Walmart is what boosted Linspire
[20:16] <manchicken> The walmart deal would have been *VERY* good for Free Software.
[20:16] <manchicken> Kubuntu should work with walmart.  They're the humanitarian and environmentalist corporation now, did you hear?
[20:16] <nixternal> which surprised me, because they were constantly selling out of their computers..and they were all Linux..which was cool
[20:16] <nixternal> manchicken: hardy har har
[20:17] <nixternal> you watch that on HBO?
[20:17] <manchicken> Walmart is doing good things in two areas that I'm liking them for: $4 prescriptions, and promoting the hell out of compact-fluorescent bulbs.
[20:17] <nixternal> OK, fill in the blank "Kubuntu 7.10 - __________________________"
[20:17] <nixternal> need a catchy title
[20:17] <nixternal> the previous was "Kubuntu 7.04 - Feistier than Ever" :)
[20:18] <manchicken> Willfull Walmart
[20:18] <nixternal> heh
[20:18] <manchicken> Have you got the gutsy?
[20:18] <nixternal> Kubuntu 7.10 - The Gutsiest Move Yet || Kubuntu 7.10 - No More Monkeying Around
[20:19] <manchicken> Kubuntu 7.10 - What the F is a Gibbon?
[20:19] <nixternal> a monkey
[20:19] <manchicken> Yeah, I know.  But there will be that question.
[20:19] <manchicken> Believe you me.
[20:19] <davmor2> kubuntu 7.10 putting the K in Kicking A***
[20:19] <nixternal> hehe
[20:19] <manchicken> Kubuntu 7.10 - Good?... or Gutsy?
[20:20] <nixternal> Kubuntu 7.10 - Putting the K in Ubuntu :)
[20:20] <manchicken> heh
[20:20] <nixternal> ooh, I kind of like that
[20:20] <_StefanS_> yep
[20:20] <_StefanS_> sounds good
[20:20] <nixternal> Kubuntu 7.10 - Sticking it to the man!
[20:20] <manchicken> Or Kubuntu 7.10 - Because KDE is still Better.
[20:20] <_StefanS_> nixternal: I didnt know linspire ever had a boost? :)
[20:20] <nixternal> hahahahah
[20:20] <davmor2> Kubuntu 7.10 - If god had a desktop
[20:20] <nixternal> _StefanS_: ya, Linspire was really big when they first cut their deal with Walmart
[20:20] <manchicken> Kubuntu 7.10 - Use it or I'll Eat this Kitten.
[20:20] <nixternal> davmor2: hahahahahahahahah
[20:21] <_StefanS_> nixternal: when it was called lindows probably :)
[20:21] <nixternal> holy smokes, those are great release day blog titles
[20:21] <nixternal> _StefanS_: yes
[20:21] <manchicken> OOH!  davmor2: "Kubuntu 7.10 - Because Gutsiness is next to Godliness"
[20:21] <manchicken> there ya go.
[20:21] <nixternal> I tend to forget about that idiotic move, but it made them a ton of money
[20:21] <manchicken> Marketing genius at work here folks.
[20:22] <nixternal> ya, I don't think religion is the best thing to throw in
[20:22] <davmor2> Kubuntu 7.10 - Kutsy Kibbon
[20:22] <manchicken> YES!
[20:22] <manchicken> That's it.
[20:22] <nixternal> hahaha, I had that
[20:22] <manchicken> You should totally use that.
[20:23] <emilsedgh> nixternal: which drupal version is used there?
[20:23] <nixternal> ok, back in a few...going to work on these release notes
[20:23] <nixternal> 5.x
[20:25] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu 7.10 - forget Feisty! Fling Feces
[20:25] <davmor2> Kubuntu 7.10 - PURE KENIUS
[20:25] <manchicken> Kubuntu 7.10 - Go for the Gutsy
[20:26] <manchicken> Grab for the Gutsy -- stolen from Miller
[20:26] <manchicken> Kubuntu 7.10 -- Does this look infected to you?
[20:26] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu 12.04 - OmG p0niez!
[20:27] <manchicken> Stick some LOLCODE in there.
[20:27] <davmor2> Kubuntu 7.10 - There Be Dragons Still
[20:27] <manchicken> Kubuntu 7.10 -- No Animals were Harmed in the Making of this Distro (except for nixternal, but that was an accident.)
[20:28] <manchicken> Kubuntu 7.10 - USDA Certified Organic Gutsy
[20:28] <DaSkreech> Though we won't swear to it
[20:28] <manchicken> er, Kubuntu 7.10 - 100% USDA Certified Organic Gutsy
[20:29] <davmor2> Kubuntu 7.10 - Forget the Gibbon go with the Dragon
[20:31] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu 7.10 - Monkey with this!!
[20:31] <manchicken> Kubuntu 7.10 -- Mmm... Monkeys...
[20:31] <davmor2> Kubuntu 7.10 - For Monkey's that breath fire
[20:32] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu 7.10 - Cause honestly Why wouldn't you?
[20:34] <manchicken> Kubuntu 7.10 - Or else the Terrorists have already won.
[20:34] <Riddell> manchicken: did you get a .deb?
[20:34] <DaSkreech> Wouldn't we lose the Terrorist crowd with that?
[20:35] <manchicken> Riddell: Yes.
[20:35] <manchicken> Riddell: Would you like it?
[20:36] <davmor2> DaSkreech: would tick, tick ...... Boom do a better job :)
[20:36] <Riddell> manchicken: yeah, could you attach to the bug?
[20:36] <DaSkreech> davmor2: Naaaw sounds like a Vista ad
[20:37] <davmor2> No that would be "Bad to the bone" ;)
[20:37] <emilsedgh> nixternal: and anywhere that i could get a copy of kubuntu-specific drupal database and files...? i think mhb is not here yet
[20:37] <manchicken> Righto.
[20:40] <Riddell> hi ndrea
[20:40] <ndrea> good day/evening
[20:45] <manchicken> Riddell: Uploading now.  It's big because I included all debs.
[20:59] <ryanakca> emilsedgh: pong
[21:00] <ryanakca> emilsedgh: umm... just a sec :)
[21:00] <emilsedgh> ryanakca: hi, i just want to help on kubuntu website, i get the drupal theme (and installed it on a drupal), is there any todo list? (ok)
[21:01] <ryanakca> emilsedgh: ok, so you got the theme from the bzr branch?
[21:01] <emilsedgh> ryanakca: yes, i have it
[21:01] <ryanakca> good :)
[21:01] <ryanakca> Umm...
[21:02] <emilsedgh> ryanakca: and, im a php programmer with a little knowlegde of drupal modules... and sure a little xhtml/css/js
[21:19] <nixternal> Riddell: Desktop (KDE 3.5.8), File Management (Dolphin), Office Suite (OO.o 2.3), Personal Information Management (KDE PIM), Multimedia (Amarok & Kaffeine), Photo Management (digiKam), Package Management (GDebi KDE), KDE 4 (beta 3), and WinFOSS.  <-- how is that for "What's New?"
[21:20] <_StefanS_> nixternal: damn nice I would say :)
[21:20] <_StefanS_> kde 3.5.8 is really cool aswell.. havent seen anyone else having that included
[21:20] <Riddell> nixternal: some of those aren't new, just call them highlights
[21:20] <Riddell> and beta 3 should be somewhere
[21:21] <Riddell> nixternal: oh, jambi and qyoto would be nice to mention
[21:21] <Riddell> (in universe, usual caveats)
[21:21] <nixternal> Riddell: beta 3 is in there
[21:22] <nixternal> Riddell: so I can change the heading name for them to "Highlights" instead of "What's New?"
[21:22] <nixternal> I like Highlights better imho
[21:22] <Riddell> oh aye
[21:23] <nixternal> aye aye captain
[21:26] <Riddell> nixternal: we also want the final upgrade instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[21:27] <mhb> emilsedgh: hi
[21:27] <nixternal> ya, I have them in there already
[21:27] <Riddell> you rock
[21:27] <emilsedgh> hi mhb
[21:27] <nixternal> yes, I am a rock, with a hole in my finger, which makes it hard to type
[21:28] <emilsedgh> mhb: could i /msg?
[21:29] <Lure> kopete started crashing (MSN) after recent update - is this already known issue?
[21:29] <mhb> emilsedgh: sure
[21:30] <mhb> Lure: it is
[21:30] <Riddell> Lure: very much
[21:31] <Lure> Riddell: how can a simple kdelibs break kopete!?
[21:31] <Riddell> kdelibs can break all of kde
[21:31] <Lure> Riddell: I know that, but only https fix was changed in last upload?
[21:31] <Riddell> bug 153500 has the fix
[21:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 153500 in kdenetwork "Kopete crashes on startup" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153500
[21:32] <Lure> Riddell: will this get in for gutsy?
[21:33] <Riddell> Lure: alas no
[21:33] <Lure> Riddell: so we need first sru ;-)
[21:34] <Riddell> yeah
[21:39] <manchicken> Riddell: (I uploaded those debs by the way)
[21:39] <manchicken> I don't know how clean they are, I didn't use pbuilder.
[21:41] <Riddell> manchicken: thanks
[21:41] <Riddell> that's not too important
[21:43] <mhb> hmm, how come it broke so late in the process?
[21:43] <mhb> I am quite certain I could log into Kopete with KDE 3.5.8
[21:43] <Riddell> 3.5.8 had another bug which we fixed and in the process broke this
[21:44] <mhb> hmm
[21:44] <mhb> we're not going to be praised for this :-(
[22:05] <Dekans|screen> how do we use a debdiff
[22:05] <Dekans|screen> ?
[22:05] <Riddell> Dekans|screen: for the kopete issue?
[22:05] <Dekans|screen> yes, i saw your bugfix
[22:05] <Riddell> Dekans|screen: download the .deb from comment 19
[22:08] <Dekans|screen> oh thanks
[22:08] <Dekans|screen> sorry, i should look entirely the LP entry before asking for help :p
[22:39] <Lure> Riddell: are DVD candidates already available?
[22:39] <Riddell> Lure: yes
[22:40] <Lure> Riddell: on standard location on cdimage.u.c?
[22:40] <Riddell> yes
[22:40] <nixternal> all I have left are screenshots
[22:40] <nixternal> yay!
[22:41] <nixternal> Riddell: I just uploaded the 7.10-release.php to the bzr repo if you want to take a quick look at it...I haven't gone through and debugged it yet, I am working on that now
[22:42] <ScottK> Riddell: In the tribe/RC notes when we've talked about the gpg/smime by default, we've referred to the work around people who installed Feisty fresh need to do to get gpg.conf back.  I think that should be release noted too.
[22:43] <Riddell> ScottK: talk to slangsek
[22:43] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.
[22:45] <davmor2> Riddell: hows thing's?
[22:48] <Riddell> davmor2: being flooded with kopete bugs but otherwise it all works
[22:53] <davmor2> damn
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> hey... I saw that there are KDE4beta3 packages up on the gutsy mirrors, but the export instructions for beta2 don't seem to work with them
[22:56] <davmor2> Riddell: what the hell did you go and break that for :P
[22:56] <_StefanS_> nosrednaekim: my experience exactly..
[22:56] <Riddell> arguably it's better than https being broken
[22:56] <_StefanS_> nosrednaekim: does work for me either
[22:56] <Lure> Riddell: so, is gutsy-proposed already working?
[22:56] <Riddell> nosrednaekim: what didn't work about them?
[22:57] <davmor2> Riddell: hahaha true.
[22:57] <Riddell> Lure: publisher is on manual, nothing will be built until tomorrow afternoon
[22:57] <Lure> Riddell: ok, was just suprised that it can be already uploaded
[22:57] <Riddell> it's uploaded, just not doing very much
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> well, I'm not sure if its the export lines, but it fails halfway through loading
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> with the line "startkde: running shutdown scripts..."
[23:00] <nixternal> Riddell: http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/kwww/announcements/7.10-release.php
[23:00] <nixternal> if you want to read it over
[23:01] <Riddell> nixternal: upgrade instructions need updating https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[23:02] <nixternal> I did update them
[23:02] <nixternal> I copied directly from that page
[23:02] <Riddell> nixternal: noo, that's the old instructions
[23:02] <Riddell> "Network upgrade for Kubuntu desktops (recommended)" section
[23:03] <nixternal> so do the network upgrade instructions instead?
[23:03] <Riddell> do the final upgrade instructions, not the RC ones
[23:03] <Riddell> nixternal: the requirements have gone up too
[23:03] <nixternal> oh
[23:03] <nixternal> OK, easy enough
[23:04] <Riddell> requirements here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/ReleaseNotes
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> _StefanS_: where does KDE4 fail for you?
[23:05] <_StefanS_> nosrednaekim: well I didnt investigate it alot, just saw it didnt worked with the instructions
[23:05] <_StefanS_> nosrednaekim: cant test it now anyways
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> _StefanS_: ah ok... do you remember where it failed?before after or during the boot splash?
[23:06] <_StefanS_> after the bootsplash I think
[23:07] <nosrednaekim> _StefanS_: oh... hmm
[23:08] <_StefanS_> nosrednaekim: well I know its not much of a help ;)
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> _StefanS_: thanks anyway.. i'll check into it more later
[23:08] <_StefanS_> same  here
[23:14] <DaSkreech> nixternal: You are changing those pics right?
[23:14] <nixternal> yes
[23:16] <DaSkreech> Beta 3 have an announce date?
[23:16] <Riddell> I just published the announcement
[23:17] <DaSkreech> Damn!
[23:17] <Riddell> why?
[23:17]  * DaSkreech kicks his RSS feed
[23:17] <DaSkreech> Otherwise I woudn't have asked :)
[23:18] <Riddell> kubuntu.org is waiting on its cache to refresh
[23:24] <nixternal> wth is wrong with bzr? I can't push or commit
[23:27] <DaSkreech> nixternal: I must be really drugged up
[23:28] <DaSkreech> I kept looking at the pictures saying aww that looks nice till I hit Amarok then I was thinking "Umm that doesn't look like Amarok at all!" that looks like Kontact.. wait thats not kontact at all!!
[23:28] <Riddell> possible the data centre is being killed already
[23:28] <Riddell> kwwii: fancy doing us a release image?
[23:28] <Riddell> I like the one we had for edgy http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[23:30] <kwwii> I am sure we can do something along that line with the new usplash/kdm graphics
[23:30] <kwwii> Riddell: when do you need it by?
[23:31] <davmor2> kwwii: yesterday :)
[23:31] <DaSkreech> midnight I would suppose
[23:31] <kwwii> lol, midnight my time is already done
[23:32] <kwwii> Riddell: I can get something to you tomorrow midday, ok with that?
[23:32] <kwwii> same kinda thing, new bg, new text with 7.10
[23:33] <kwwii> well, the new text style from kdm, etc
[23:34] <kwwii> I am done for tonight....too many extranious projects going on at the same time
[23:34]  * DaSkreech laughs at Konqui draped over the 4
[23:35] <DaSkreech> Does Beta 3 have a kode name?
[23:37] <nixternal> hey, we need a KDE 4 beta 3 screenshot (1024x768)
[23:37] <nixternal> and we need the dist-upgrade screenshot as well
[23:37] <Riddell> kwwii: about midday is right
[23:38] <Riddell> nixternal: dot.kde.org links to some
[23:41] <DaSkreech> I shoudl probably reinstall kubuntu-desktop when 7.10 ships
[23:42] <davmor2> DaSkreech: It's in a few hours dude download it now while the servers work :)
[23:42] <DaSkreech> davmor2: Naw I'll hit it up Friday
[23:42] <DaSkreech> In case Strigi goes nuts again
[23:43] <davmor2> :D or like Kopete get's broke ;)
[23:44] <nixternal> Riddell: roger that
[23:44] <DaSkreech> Naw that I'm saving for KDE4 :)
[23:58] <davmor2> night all and happy buntu day :)