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BluesKajyammeh, should have the option to use both15:10
YammehIf I change my "current mixer" to usb audio codec, it still plays through my onboard sound15:11
WaltzingAlong!audio15:12
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP315:12
=== mattias_ is now known as mpa
CaBlGuY?15:49
boeroehelp cannot install my hp psc 2410 photosmart all in one printer15:49
boeroei use the wizard and choose psc 3400 driver but it gives me an error15:49
fdovingTrist_an: the little thing on your panel showing the different virtual desktops.15:49
Trist_anok thanks fdoving15:49
boeroei mean psc 2400 driver15:49
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: hey... I got the 8.41 ATI driver installed on my gutsy AMD64 system, but LibGL is behaving properly...did you have to do anything special?15:52
WaltzingAlongnosrednaekim: yes, ask in #ubuntu+115:52
WaltzingAlongor wait some hours to ask here, hehe15:52
nosrednaekimWaltzingAlong: it has nothing in particular to do with gutsy, the same thing happens in fiesty and BluesKaj has gotten it working15:53
nosrednaekimWaltzingAlong: unless you know the answer.15:53
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WaltzingAlongyes but now you have gutsy and this channel is for feisty15:54
WaltzingAlong!ati | nosrednaekim15:54
ubotunosrednaekim: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto15:54
nosrednaekimyeah I know.... but BluesKaj isn't over there (IDK if he is really even here)15:54
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Daisuke-IdoWaltzingAlong: you're preaching to the choir15:56
WaltzingAlongthanks15:56
WaltzingAlongchecks and balances15:56
nosrednaekimWaltzingAlong: I'm not a newb.. I know all about that...15:56
WaltzingAlongotherwise we get the usa15:56
Daisuke-IdoWHOA.15:56
Daisuke-Idostop right there15:56
Daisuke-Idothat is not an appropriate topic, we don't do politics.15:57
WaltzingAlong!ot15:57
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!15:57
MoonWalkerhello all15:57
MoonWalker:P15:57
MoonWalkeri got a question15:58
MoonWalker:D15:58
Daisuke-Ido...okay?15:58
Daisuke-Idonosrednaekim: did i just scare him off?15:58
MoonWalkeri have Windows XP SP2 ... can i install ubuntu as a secundary operation sistem ?15:58
Daisuke-IdoMoonWalker: you most certainly can15:58
nosrednaekimDaisuke-Ido: hope so...15:58
MoonWalkerhmm15:58
MoonWalkerit's like fedora ? to make Swap partition ... then / partition15:59
nosrednaekimMoonWalker: although as soon as you install it... it will be "superior" not secondary ;)15:59
Daisuke-Idoin fact, the live cd will automatically repartition your windows drive for you and take care of all the fun stuff15:59
MoonWalkerand ther things15:59
MoonWalker:P15:59
MoonWalkeroh15:59
MoonWalkerthat's a good info15:59
jdongdual-boot is also set up for you automatically15:59
MoonWalkerso if i install ubuntu , windows will be deleted15:59
MoonWalker:D15:59
Daisuke-IdoMoonWalker: no15:59
nosrednaekimnot if you don't want it to be15:59
Daisuke-Idoit will just resize the windows partition if that's what you want15:59
jdongMoonWalker: no, it will shrink Windows's space and make room for Ubuntu, and set up both to be on the boot menu16:00
Daisuke-Idoyou will still have the option at boot to choose windows or kubuntu16:00
MoonWalkerlol16:00
jdongMoonWalker: unless you specifically choose to delete Windows16:00
MoonWalkerthat's a wise choice for ubuntu16:00
MoonWalker:P16:00
MoonWalkerclever16:00
MoonWalkerthanks for answerd16:00
MoonWalkeranswers16:00
MoonWalker:)16:00
Daisuke-Idoalthough, a lot of people - after using ubuntu for a while - decide to ditch windows completely :)16:00
MoonWalkeri heard16:01
MoonWalker:D16:01
* nosrednaekim hasn't used windows for 4 years16:01
MoonWalkerlol16:01
MoonWalkergg ...16:01
MoonWalkeryou can use .exe on ubuntu ?16:01
MoonWalker:-s16:01
MoonWalkerwithout installing wine ?16:01
Daisuke-Idoerr...  no.16:01
stdin!enter | MoonWalker16:01
ubotuMoonWalker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:01
Daisuke-Idonot without wine or some sort of virtualization16:02
Daisuke-Idohowever, wine is much better than it was in the past, and virtualbox is quite nice as well16:02
MoonWalkerwell for example .. i want to play Halo on Ubuntu Desktop edition .... i just need to install wine and i can play ?16:03
MoonWalkeror i need to configurate ... etc..16:03
stdin!games16:03
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php16:03
MoonWalkerwell thanks stdin .. that was a fast answer :P you're logging me ?16:03
stdinI have endless logs, and logs of logs, but that's another story16:04
MoonWalker:)) i've just joking :D16:04
MoonWalkerwell .. who wants a beer ? :D i'm thirsty16:05
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: are you around?16:05
* genii syslogs -vvvv stdin16:06
basseardchoille: heh still tweakin, decided to update whole kubuntu while i'm at it..16:06
kaminixWhen is Koffice 2 due to release? Same as KDE 4?16:06
stdinkaminix: #kde is a better place to ask16:07
nosrednaekimkaminix: later I think.16:07
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ardchoillebasse: :)16:07
basseardchoille: problem with nvidia kernel driver is very odd. by default it wants to load up wrong driver.. if i unload what it loads on boot and then by hand load the correct one.. X starts just fine with glx and all :)16:07
bassethese modern modprobes are hard to understand..16:07
WalkbossCan someone help me with an error I'm getting trying to mount partitions in the Gutsy LiveCD?16:08
Daisuke-Idobasse: did you install from the repos or from nvidia.com's provided driver?16:08
TimSHow can I use a USB key instead of a password? I know its possible16:08
ardchoillebasse: Any chance of uninstalling the wrong one so it can't load?16:08
genii!info koffice2 gutsy16:09
ubotukoffice2: KOffice2 applications for KDE 4 testing. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.93-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 146549 kB, installed size 419188 kB16:09
nosrednaekimsweet....i'm going to have to check that out!16:09
WalkbossPlease?16:10
Daisuke-Idowhat's the error?16:10
MoonWalkerhmm ... can i install codecs ? on ubuntu ? like on windows .... ace mega codec pack .. or more ?16:10
Walkbosshal-storage-fixed-mout refused uid 99916:10
Walkbossmount*...16:11
Daisuke-IdoMoonWalker: 1) eww at codec packs.  2) most of your avi formats are supported out of the box16:11
nosrednaekimWalkboss: do it as root.16:11
MoonWalkerok i install ubuntu :D16:11
nosrednaekimWalkboss: "kdesudo konqueror"16:11
MoonWalkeri'm convinced now lol16:11
Daisuke-Idobut you'll have to install support for dvd and mp316:11
Daisuke-Idoalmost the exact opposite :)16:12
nosrednaekimWalkboss: AND support for gutsy is in #ubuntu+116:12
RurouniJonesI have a laptop and external HDD both hooked up by a USB 2.0 connection but I am getting a transfer speed of just 1.1MB/s. Anyone else experienced this?16:12
WalkbossIt gives me the exact same error16:12
LeopardREQuested: LIVE CD with KDE4 BETA2 please :)16:12
nosrednaekimever tried installing an ogg codec in windows?16:12
nosrednaekimLeopard: ask in #kubuntu-devel.... its being thought about :)16:12
LeopardREQ Live cd with KDE4 beta 2 please for kde+ubuntu = kubuntu16:12
geniiLeopard: Please ask in #kubuntu-devel16:12
Leopardi rather not ask devel i am a christian i accepted jesus as my savior16:13
Daisuke-Idotroll?16:14
Leopardpuppeteer16:14
stdinLeopard: stop that16:14
Lacrymologyexcuse me, I've installed japanese language support, and anthy, and scim, and some fonts, and all that jazz, and aparently I can write japanese, but I can't read it for the hell of it16:14
basseardchoille: no they come with kernel.. they are restricted package..16:14
Walkboss...I'll guess I'll ask in ubuntu+116:14
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Lacrymologyand by "I can't read it" I mean I see squares, not that I can't read japanese =)16:15
Leopard!help19:00
Leoparduboto19:00
Leopardisnt helping me19:00
Leopard:(19:00
pillowpantsLeopard : ubotu is down we think19:00
Leopardis that possible?19:01
ardchoilleSure it is19:02
pillowpantsLeopard : surely19:02
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pillowpantshas anyone here used tinyproxy?19:02
xenoli would like to ask if it has some advantages using 64bit version of kubuntu on 64 bit system? af if yes what r advantages19:03
ardchoillexenol: Less problems using the 32bit version19:04
pillowpantsxenol : 64 bit advantage?19:04
pillowpantsardchoille : are you saying use 32 bit ver kde on a 64 bit system?19:04
ardchoilleI'm saying that too many people come here with problems with the 64bit version and end up installing the 32bit version19:05
pillowpantsardchoille : hm, i see19:05
pillowpantsive never had any problems to speak of19:05
xenolwhat r the most common probs?19:05
RurouniJonesOne thing that comes to mind is browser plugins19:05
ardchoilleI've been using Linux since 2001 and I'd use the 32bit version on a 64bit system.19:06
pillowpantsI use 32 bit firefox for that issue19:06
pillowpantsi would flat out refuse to install 32 bit kde on my 64 bit system19:06
xenoland performance of 32 bit on 64bit aint somehow weird19:07
xenoli mean if it aint way too slugish19:07
xenolor sth like that?19:07
pillowpantsim just stubborn in that way19:08
xenolso what do u guys recommend me use 32bit or 64bit system?19:09
garik132bit :)19:09
xenolcause of less probs?19:09
ardchoillexenol: Depends on if you're willing to do all the work involved in getting everything n the 64bit version working. If not, use 32bit.19:09
garik1if you wanna problems install gentoo 64bit :)19:09
ardchoillelol19:10
blendtux_in wich repo is the program acroread19:10
emilsedgh_garik1: gentoo 64bit? gentoo is source based?19:10
sea4everwoohoo I got my webcam to work.19:10
pillowpantsgarik1 : dude, seriously19:10
ardchoille!medibuntu | blendtux_19:10
XenThraLmy 2 cents, first install of a 64 bit OS, gutsy, no problems at all19:10
mk6hello, can you tell me wher is the Autostart file?19:10
XenThraLgot flash and everything working just fine19:10
xenolardchoille: do i have to compile every piece of software to 64bit?19:10
mk6I want to delete compiz-fuzion from autostart and I don't know where is this file19:10
blendtux_!medibuntu19:10
ardchoillexenol: No19:10
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ardchoilleblendtux_: you can find acroread at: http://www.medibuntu.org/19:11
pillowpantsblendtux_ : ubotu is down19:11
xenolardchoille: and?19:11
ardchoillexenol: install 64bit version and find out :)19:11
xenolardchoille: i am looking foward to dl new gutsy19:12
xenolso many new staff :>19:12
mk6ardchoille: can you tell me something?19:13
Lars_GAnyhow my quick question is, I see 7.10 recognizes but doesn't mounts removable media by default. how can I change that?19:13
Lars_GHi all19:13
myghete1stupid question... in CLI how do i echo back the full path that im currently in?19:13
sehepwd19:13
sehemyghete1: ^^19:13
myghete1thanks19:13
ardchoillemk6: yes19:13
sehe!apropos | myghete119:13
Lars_Gmk6: I can tell you stuff too19:13
ardchoilleI can tell you to look both ways before you cross the street.19:13
mk6i want to delete compiz-fusion form autostart... how?19:14
Lars_Gmk6: for example. never fry bacon naked.19:14
myghete1thanks all!19:14
ardchoillemk6: uninstall it if you're not using it19:14
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seheLars_G: depands on how much bacon you want to end up frying :D19:14
pillowpantshave any of you ever used bastille??19:14
pillowpants?*19:14
mk6ardchoille: i am using it19:14
Lars_GAnyhow any ideas on my question please?19:14
LogicalDashkdm is failing for no apparent reason and attempts to restart it tell me it " can't connect to host ' ' ".19:14
slimjimflimpillowpants, no but i've heard good things19:15
pillowpantsslimjimflim : ah, i see19:15
seheLars_G: i don't know - I use pysdm for this kind of thing19:15
slimjimflimsuper-secure19:15
pillowpantsslimjimflim : ill give it a go19:15
Lars_Gsehe: pysdm?19:15
pillowpantsas long as it doesnt effect torrents, ill be fine19:15
Leopardis ubotu back up pillowpants see i was chatting to him in IM: http://i23.tinypic.com/3320x0w.png19:15
seheapt-get install and see for yourself19:15
mk6ardchoille: im using it now, what should i do?19:15
ardchoillemk6: compiz is a window manager, if it doesn't start with kde, then how do you expect to manage your windows?19:16
Leopardwe love eachother i think :)19:16
ardchoillemk6: You want windows with no titlebar or way to manage them?19:16
slimjimflimanybody know how to reinstall a nic and/or set it's settings back to default?19:16
seheslimjimflim: as in 'network adaptor'19:16
seheslimjimflim: ?19:16
slimjimflimyes19:16
seheslimjimflim: look at /etc/network/interfaces19:17
Leoparduboto is so cute :019:17
mk6ardchoille: im not very good in english :)19:17
Leopard!help19:17
Leopard:(19:17
pillowpantsLeopard : ah, i see19:17
Leopard: lol19:17
Lars_Gsehe: pysdm?19:17
mk6I have few errors with compiz and I need to turn it off for some time19:17
ardchoillemk6: I'm not very good out of English19:17
slimjimflimoh, it's static, i wanted dhcp19:17
seheLars_G:  apt-get install and see for yourself19:17
slimjimflimsehe ^^19:17
Lars_Gsehe: ok I'll check it out19:18
slimjimflimi think this'll get it goin19:18
seheLars_G: taht was a ^^^^^ myself :D19:18
pillowpantsLeopard : what program was that19:18
ardchoillemk6: join #ubuntu-effects19:18
LeopardMiranda19:18
Leopardwith a lot of mods19:18
seheslimjimflim: cheers19:18
Leopardunfortunately it doesnt run on linux :(19:18
garik1how to install beryl?19:19
pillowpantsLeopard : yeah, i checked19:19
Lars_GBut what's the kubuntu/kde native way to change this back anyhow? anyone?19:19
ardchoillegarik1:  join #ubuntu-effects19:19
mk6ardchoille: thanks :P19:19
seheslimjimflim: you could look at knetworkmanage to change/view the config as well (as you are on kubuntu anyways)19:19
pillowpantsLeopard : bitchx does a fine enough job for me19:19
Lars_Ggarik1: beryl is, afaik being rolled back into compiz19:19
Leopard:) i like to mod19:19
ardchoilleLars_G: That was already done19:19
tharunis there any way to get konqueror to list open tabs on the left side of the program instead of on the top?19:19
ardchoilleLars_G: That's why we now have compiz-fusion19:19
slimjimflimwell i have to disconnect to try this, so if i come back it probably didn't work19:20
slimjimflimthx19:20
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milleI have a question about burning dvd's in ubuntu19:21
Lars_Gardchoille: yup19:21
Lars_Gardchoille: Altough last time I checked there where some rough edges left19:21
jthomasmille, so ask them19:21
ardchoilleLars_G: no idea, never used it.19:21
jthomasalthough, mille, this is kubuntu (kde) so we may be at a loss of ideas...19:22
Cenarius:( i cant install for god sake :P19:22
Cenariusthat driver for sound19:22
milleI can read DVD's just fine just can't burn them19:22
Cenarius:P19:22
jthomasmille: which app are you using?19:22
LogicalDashkdm failed to start. Where do I find its logs?19:22
milleso I don't think it is a driver issue19:22
Lars_Gcan't anyone give me a hand please?19:22
ardchoilleLars_G: With what?19:23
milleI have tried K3b, Brasero19:23
milleK3b says there is no drive19:23
milleBrasero errors out19:23
jthomasmille: are you sure the drive allows for burning?19:23
mille?19:23
milleno19:24
jthomasmille is it a DVD+R or DVD-R?  or just a DVD-ROM drive?  and are you using +R or -R disks?19:24
ardchoillelol19:24
jthomaslook at the front of the drive itself, mille.  Does it say DVD-ROM or something else?19:24
milleDVD-ROM/R/RW19:25
kWiJiBomoin!19:25
milleIt worked in windows but i hate windows19:25
Lars_Gardchoille: 7.10 changed the default (kde?) behaviour for removable media to show-but-not-automount I want to change it back and wonder where the config item is19:25
kWiJiBoenglish or german?19:25
jthomasok so it can burn (R/RW)19:25
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ardchoilleLars_G: Gutsy help in #ubuntu+119:25
kWiJiBo alright, i need some help19:25
Lars_Gardchoille: for a single day?19:25
kWiJiBoi tried to install java dk19:26
milleyes but only in windows19:26
ardchoilleLars_G: I wasn't aware of any time limits19:26
Lars_Gardchoille: and even worse, for a possibly KDE controlled item? I fear asking them there19:26
Lars_Gardchoille: I wasn't aware you're programmed to become an expert in one day.19:26
jthomasin K3B, under the menus, is there an option to set the permissions for the drive?  (I forget what it says in Feisty)19:26
ardchoilleLars_G: When in this channel, I have to comply with the channel rules. How hard is it to join another channel?19:27
kWiJiBoand then this error appeared:19:27
kWiJiBohe directory /tmp/istemp588229020263619:27
kWiJiBo          does not contain enough space to extract temporary files.19:27
millethat could be it19:27
kWiJiBowhat can i do about it?19:27
milleyes the permissions is veiw only19:28
kWiJiBoi tried to enter -is:help as the shell told me, but that didnt work19:28
dhqwhen will final version of gutsy be out19:28
jthomaskWiJiBo: i think you can change the KDE temporary directory to something else; find the Run... command (or hit [alt][f2]) and type in 'kcontrol' [enter] to see the KDE System Settings, and pojke around in there19:28
jthomasmille: is there a tool or something which, when you select it, will ask for your root password, and then fix the permissions?19:29
* kWiJiBo is pojkeing around in the kde system settings now19:30
ardchoillejthomas: chmod?19:30
jthomascan anyone open their Feisty K3B and figure out what I am talking about?  I'm running Debian now and I don't see that in my options.19:30
ardchoillechown?19:30
jthomasardchoille: it could be that, but k3b has its own script thing, makes it really easy19:30
jthomasaka no CLI19:30
ardchoilleYour opinion. I feel that cli is faster and easier than any GUI.19:31
jthomasaw come on.  me too but i am not going to get into it.19:31
pillowpantsjthomas : all i see is mount/unmount19:31
jthomaspillowpants: in k3b?  hmm.19:31
pillowpantsjthomas : wait, settings > configure system permissions19:33
jthomasyes that'd be it, mille see that ^^ do you have that?19:33
garik1How to play .ape music?19:34
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jthomas!ape19:34
jthomasi've never heard of that19:34
millewhat window?19:35
jthomasmille, in k3b, settings menu, configure system permissions19:35
milleare you talking about konqueror19:35
jthomasmain window19:35
jthomask3b19:35
milleok i am in config k3b19:36
jthomasNOT in config.  the same menu that got you to config, but a different option in that menu.  do you have it, or not?19:36
milleno19:36
jthomasok19:37
jthomasthen in config, under devices, does it list as a writer, or a read-only drive?19:37
kWiJiBo@jthomas, sorry but i couldnt find an option to change the temp dir19:37
kWiJiBoive got kubuntu 7.0419:37
millewriter Drives19:38
Cenariusi got a question ..19:38
milleHL-DT-ST DVDRAM19:38
Cenariushow i can install a driver for sound ? i got wine installed .. i tried to install the driver few times .. and still doesn working19:38
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jthomaskWiJiBo: not sure then... your / (root) partition must be near full if you don't have much space, or it is a large file to uncompress...  you could try to uncompress it at the command line19:39
iss_studentIn konversation where do I go to add a alias?19:39
Lars_Gardchoille: Ok let's do something, would you let me ask in a 7.04 safe way and then I can extract the data from there?19:39
jthomasCenarius: your drivers sould work, you won't be successful with a Windows driver19:39
Lars_GCenarius: What about ndiswrapper based wireless drivers?19:40
jthomasmille if it says its a writer, it should work I would think.19:40
milleok well thank you for all your help19:40
jthomasmille: sorry i couldn't solve it.  i am no expert, by any means :)19:40
iss_studentAlso is it possible to connect to multiple wireless access points in Kubuntu. Not at the same time of course but say work and home and school?19:40
ardchoilleLars_G: It's not a matter of me "letting" you, I don't own the channel. But, I won't break the rules.19:40
milleI understand.19:41
millethanks19:41
Lars_GOk19:41
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Lars_GHey when I insert a removable media in feisty, under kde. it auto mounts it (using pmount I beleive), I'd like for it not to be automounted. Any ideas how to change that?19:42
jthomasLars_G: you have to somehow get to the Configure screen of the KDE control module; maybe by inserting a CD or DVD.  Then hit [configure] and you can change what KDE does for all media19:44
folkertHi @ all :-) i love your Linux ;)19:44
Lars_Gjthomas: thanks a lot.19:44
jthomasLars_G: no prob.  Figure it out?19:45
Riddellfolkert: great19:45
Cenariu1hmm19:45
Lars_Gjthomas: btw wouldn't that be accessible in some category on kcontrol? by running kcontrol by hand?19:45
jthomasnot sure19:45
Cenariu1i like it too .. itś starts to look nice19:45
ardchoilleLars_G: Open kcontrol19:45
ardchoilleLars_G: Peripherals > Storage Media19:46
Cenariu1but anyway ... i could not install any drivers for my sound device :P and i got installed wine package19:46
garik1How to synchronize some data every hour between pc and notebook?19:46
kWiJiBonow i simply tried to change the temp folder with "-is:tempdir /home/<usrname> -> but error "command not found"19:46
ardchoillegarik1: use rsync in a cronjob19:46
kWiJiBoim a absolute linux newbie btw19:46
jthomasCenariu1: Linux drivers are, generally, build in.  And they certainly don't come on a CD from the vendor! :(19:47
ardchoilleCenariu1: The stuff that install via wine is installed in your home directory, not the system. You're not going to be able to successfully install drivers like that.19:48
Ben_Cshello19:49
kWiJiBonow i simply tried to change the temp folder with "-is:tempdir /home/<usrname> -> but then error "command not found" appears19:49
ardchoillekWiJiBo: which comand are you using?19:50
kWiJiBo-is:tempdir19:50
ardchoillekWiJiBo: That's not a valid command. Are you trying to rename the folder?19:50
Ben_Csi installed ssh package which installed openssh-client and openssh-server. but when i do: ssh localhost   ,the cursor moves to next blank line and just prints what i type but does nothing. please help19:50
kWiJiBoyes19:51
Ben_Csi don't get even a login request19:51
fixiociao19:51
ardchoillekWiJiBo: mv 'old_name' 'new_name'  (without quotes)19:51
kWiJiBoi tried to install javadk, then an error appears that idont have enoigh freespace in the tempdir19:51
kWiJiBoso it told me, type -is:tempdir to change the temp folder19:52
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Cenariu1ubuntu really rocks :d19:53
seheardchoille: or perhaps with quotes depending on the filenames and the shell in use19:54
floI want to install kubutu on a laptop that currently runs suse. The Problem: can't boot from cdrom/usb andno floppy. Any way to start the kubuntu install from the running suse system ?19:54
kreibbios is locked?19:56
jthomasflo, you cannot boot from the disk?  hmmm...19:56
Ben_Csno one here knows about ssh?!19:57
jthomasBen_Cs: sure whats up?19:57
kreibwhat about it?19:57
Ben_Csjthomas: i installed ssh package. when i CLI: ssh localhost, i don't get login request, as if nothing happens19:57
jthomasBen_Cs: is your sshd running, to answer the ssh request?19:58
Ben_Csjthomas: how do i check?19:58
jthomasrun at a cli: "ps -auwx |grep sshd"19:58
jthomasdoes it retunr a line about /usr/sbin/sshd ?19:59
Ben_Csjthomas: yes19:59
jthomashmmm19:59
Ben_Csjthomas: it's a line for root19:59
jthomassure, root will run the service19:59
jthomasthats normal19:59
Ben_Csjthomas: so y do i get a blank line then?20:00
Ben_Csjthomas: should i try reinstall?20:00
jthomasBen_Cs: i wouldn't think so20:01
jthomasBen_Cs: try: "sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart" [enter] then try it20:01
jthomasBen_Cs: have you set up a firewall on that perhaps?20:01
X314Z159hey.. if I plugin another harddrive, how do I find it? (its fat32)20:02
jthomasBen_Cs: I am running Debian but it worked for me20:02
Ben_Csjthomas: sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found20:02
jthomas??20:03
Ben_Csjthomas: don't think i have a firewall20:03
flojthomas: any ideas ?20:03
jthomastry it again just as /etc/init.d/ssh i guess20:03
Ben_Csjthomas: i get OK but still same result on connecting20:04
CPrompt^flo : why can't you boot from cd?20:04
jthomasflo, about the laptop?  not really... maybe a network install? (painful)  or take the drive out, put it into another system, do the basic install there, and then do the first boot on the main laptop?20:05
jthomasflo, can you boot from USB, like an external CD?20:06
jthomasBen_Cs: try 'ssh 127.0.0.1' instead of 'ssh localhost' ?20:07
CPrompt^Ben_C's : why are you trying to ssh into the machine you are on?20:07
ygiHall zusammen :)20:07
LeopardCPrompt^ : i know a use for doing that20:08
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* sea4ever will be right back!20:08
ygiKann mir wer verraten, wo ich ne bruachbare Hilfe finde, wenn Kubuntu beim Start immer die Soundkarten (2) vertauscht ? ?20:08
CPrompt^Leopard : good...I really see no reason for that but...OK20:08
Leopardi ssh into my own vmware to run apps linux apps through X11 forwarding with xming and putty20:09
Leopard:)20:09
Leopardi dunno why20:09
genii!de | ygi20:09
ubotuygi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:09
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Leopardi just wanted to try it20:09
Leopardhehe20:09
slimjimflimit seems like i installed avahi as a dependency while apt-getting postfix.  avahi, however, has taken over my ip configuration.  how can i get control back?20:09
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atlfalcons866!kde420:09
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php20:09
ygiThanks ubotu20:09
atlfalcons866will kde4 be in hardy?20:10
Ben_CsCPrompt^: just to test that ssh works20:11
LeopardBen_Cs : the journey is the destination20:11
Leopard:)20:11
Leoparddeep huh :020:11
Leopard(C++)^2 is deep20:12
Leopard:)20:12
Ben_CsLeopard: not funny. i need a working ssh server20:12
Leopardyou said just testing20:13
Leopardhence just20:13
Leopardneed is dependency20:13
ardchoillesehe: Good point20:13
Doctor_Nickwill gutsy be released AT midnight or after20:13
LeopardDoctor_Nick : that depends on the timezone you are in dont forget its a global product20:14
seheardchoille: hehe ages ago but still - cheers20:14
Doctor_Nickok, midnight at gmt or midnight at est or what :P20:14
flojthomas: no can't boot from anything but hdd (and since it is 2.5" i cant put it into another pc - now)20:14
LeopardDoctor_Nick : it matters20:14
Doctor_Nickthats what im asking20:15
floCPrompt^: It's an old notebook that doesn't support booting from anything but hdd20:15
Leopardtimezone is the crux for your question20:15
geniiWhat timezone is New Zealand in??20:15
Leopardgmt+10' ish20:15
seheDoctor_Nick: if in doubt - just assume 'way' after midnight. You'll be safe20:15
Leopardmy best guess20:15
Leopardsimilar to australia i reckon20:16
geniiHmm. Since main ubuntu security site is in NZ20:16
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KartiHi all, just a quick question - does anyone know is the new Kubuntu 64Bit will have flash in Konqueror?20:17
emilsedghKarti: Flash has no 64bit version (afaik), you could try Gnash...20:18
Ashbornhi all20:18
Leopardi love you emilsedgh :)20:18
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=== nu is now known as nuu
Leopardemilsedgh : my parents are flowerpowers20:19
Leopard:)20:19
emilsedghLeopard: :P thanks!20:19
Kartiemilsedgh: Thanks, tried that but as with most beginners when it didnt work I went back to 32 bit Firefox ;)20:19
Leopardhaha20:19
Leopardemilsedgh : i said the samething to a windows moderator on a daily base he went so mad that he banned for 12 days ;/20:19
emilsedghKarti: which version you tried? 0.8.1 is much better than 0.820:19
Loquelvi2hi20:19
emilsedghso he was a real mad guy Leopard20:20
Kartiemilsedgh: It was about 6 weeks ago, and I just did the one from the normal repository20:20
Leopardemilsedgh : yep he uses windows :o20:20
tom__f20:20
emilsedghLeopard: windows? 100% mad..needs hospital :P20:20
Leopardyeah well i use windows for games20:21
Leopardnot for work20:21
Leopardhe uses it for work as a sysadmin20:21
Leopardits funny to say you love someone over IRC and see how people react they usually do react that says a lot20:23
Leopardsome take it as harrasment20:23
Leopardsome take it as a joke20:23
Leopardbut they always respond :P20:23
Leopardemilsedgh : is ubotu fixed yet i was playing with him20:24
xenolplz anyone can tell me how can i enable konsole to start with the theme i want and not that classic black?20:24
Leoparduboto20:24
Leopard!help20:24
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots20:24
Leopardcool :)20:24
emilsedghyaaa, his alive20:24
administratori have a wifi card netgear20:24
jthomaswhat is a good kicker applet or systray app for network load monitoring?20:24
administratorhow can i get it to work?20:24
Leopardsee emilsedgh me talking to ubotu: http://i23.tinypic.com/3320x0w.png20:24
administratorhow can i get my wifi netgear card to work?20:25
administratorlatest version of kubuntu20:25
jthomaslatest being 7.04?  or tomoorows release of 7.10?20:26
emilsedgh!wifi | administrator20:26
ubotuadministrator: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:26
emilsedghLeopard: is this Kopete?! :D20:26
Leopardno :( i wish it was20:27
Leopardi am on WIndows its a miranda mod20:27
Ben_Csy oh y won't the ssh work?!!!!!!!!!!20:27
Leopardcan you do that with Kopete?20:27
Leopardgtk doesnt allow for shiny eyecandy20:27
MoNsTeRhello?20:27
emilsedghLeopard: not 100%, but most of it could be done20:28
Leopardoh ok i see20:28
administratorhow you get it so that you double click to open stuff up and not single click?20:28
* GoOcHiE is back20:28
MoNsTeRi need help guys how do i install restricted driver for my graphics card?20:28
Leopardi have to check out Kopete again havent played with it for a while20:28
Leopardon kubuntu i prefer gaim/pidgin20:28
MoNsTeRi need help guys how do i install restricted driver for my graphics card?20:29
Leopardonly werd that all these open source chat apps are so focused on commercial protocols20:29
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francescosoft___hello20:30
francescosoft___can somebody help me pls.20:31
francescosoft___dvb didn't work for me with kaffeine on ubuntu20:31
MoNsTeRomg i never get help when i come here20:32
administratori keep getting this error when installing the drivers20:32
MoNsTeRits like you ignore me20:32
administratorndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.38-1ubuntu1_i386.deb20:32
iss_studentWhat is the web address for bugs in ubuntu again?20:32
Minataku!bugs20:32
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots20:33
MinatakuI figured it was something simple like that, but I wasn't sure20:33
administratori cant install the drivers20:33
administratorhttp://pastebin.com/m21437efb20:33
administratorthis is the error i keep getting please someone help me20:33
Dr_willisadministrator,  i think for ndiswrappers you need the proper .inf file from the windows drivers20:34
administratori did download them20:35
administratorthe two files20:35
administratorfrom the website20:35
Dr_willisthen you need to put them in the proper place , or some how expilictly tell them what ones to use i guess. I dont use ndiswarppera  so cant help more then thatn20:35
Dr_willistry giving the FULL path to the .inf file or check the20:35
Dr_willis /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 174.   script and see where its looking for them at.20:36
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blubbis it a big difference if I do the update to new kubuntu now instead of tomorrow?20:38
pro__anyway to cut down on kubuntu install?20:39
administratorok here is the new issue20:40
administratorbash: cd: /home/administrator/Info/WinXP_2K: No such file or directory20:40
administratoradministrator@Server:~$ audo ndiswrapper -i mrv8335.inf20:40
administratorbash: audo: command not found20:40
administratoradministrator@Server:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i mrv8335.inf20:40
administratordriver mrv8335 is already installed20:40
administratoradministrator@Server:~$ ndiswrapper -l20:40
administratormrv8335 : invalid driver!20:40
administratoradministrator@Server:~$20:40
administratoradministrator@Server:~$20:40
administratorwhy is it acting up20:40
administratorhttp://pastebin.com/m4640b4fe20:40
administratorit says its installed but then says invalid driver20:40
genii!paste20:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:40
administratori got that pastebin20:41
administratorsame thing20:41
administratorwhat i do?20:41
administratorplase help20:41
atlfalcons866!ops20:42
atlfalcons866!op20:42
administratorcan someone please help me?20:42
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!20:42
gnomefreak?20:42
gnomefreakadministrator: what?20:42
administratorim having issues with a driver20:42
blubbis it a big difference if I do the update to new kubuntu now instead of tomorrow?20:42
administratorit says that it is installed20:43
gnomefreakatlfalcons866: what?20:43
administratorbut it says that its invalid driver20:43
gnomefreakadministrator: use pastebin20:43
administratorhttp://pastebin.com/m4640b4fe20:43
administratori did20:43
blendtux_my god kubuntu gutsy is so so so so fast20:43
gnomefreakMez: i was in the middle of talking to him,20:43
Mez!repeat | administrator20:43
ubotuadministrator: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience20:43
administratori did20:44
cattercatter hi20:44
CPrompt^administrator : after you downloaded the files, did you compile them?20:45
administratori right clicked them and selected the install option20:45
atlfalcons866!lts20:45
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.20:45
X314Z159how do I find my HD(FAT32) that i just connected.. can I find it?20:45
CPrompt^administrator : so it was a .deb file?20:45
artur_hallo, kann mir jemand mit meinem wlan d-link usb-stick weiterhelfen?20:45
administratoryeah20:45
administratorndiswrapper-common_1.38-1ubuntu1_all.deb20:45
administratorndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.38-1ubuntu1_i386.d20:45
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CPrompt^administrator : when it went through the install, did it say that it failed because of dependencies that were unmet?20:46
administratorno20:46
administratorit said "unarchiving deb file20:46
administrator"setting up"20:46
administrator"press enter to exit"20:46
administratorthats all20:46
clauhello. i got a network problem after upgrade from edgy to feisty: i get an ip via dhcp, but nothing works. /etc/resolv.conf looks ok also20:47
CPrompt^administrator : see if you can do "whereis ndiswrapper" from terminal20:47
clauany ideas anyone?20:47
nathanhow can I install webmin on kubuntu?20:47
nathanI have the deb package20:48
CPrompt^administrator : if "whereis" command doesn't show anything, try "which ndiswrapper" and see if it comes back with anything.  Might have to use sudo.20:48
dectushei everyone20:48
dectuswhat's the best easy editor for c++ in kubuntu ?20:48
CPrompt^nathan : right click on it and choose "Install package" under Kubuntu package manager20:48
administratorok20:48
fdoving dectus kdevelop maybe?20:48
administratori did it20:48
administratornow what?20:48
MoNsTeRdoes anybody know how i install and enable the restricted driver for my graphics card?20:48
CPrompt^dectus : Kate for me.  has terminal so you can run it ;)20:48
administratorthose are20:49
administratoradministrator@Server:~$ whereis ndiswrapper20:49
administratorndiswrapper: /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper /etc/ndiswrapper /usr/share/man/man8/ndiswrapper.8.gz20:49
dectusthx :)20:49
dectusand how to install g++ ?20:49
administratorhttp://pastebin.com/m7b652f7d20:49
MoNsTeRdoes anybody know how i install and enable the restricted driver for my graphics card?20:49
geniiadministrator: Maybe check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/mrv8k    I think you need to blacklist another driver first.20:50
administratorhow i blacklist?20:50
nathanCPrompt^: it gave me errors saying dependencies were'nt met20:50
geniiadministrator: It tells you on the page20:50
administratoryeah i have it20:50
clauso, anyone? :)20:51
administratori have mrv8k20:51
CPrompt^nathan : make not of what the dependecies are, and install them.  See if you can install them via adept first.  If not, have to find the packages and install them that way.20:51
CPrompt^nathan : that was supposed to be "make note of the dependecies" ;)20:51
MoNsTeRdoes anybody know how i install and enable the restricted driver for my graphics card?20:52
administratorgenii if i got it so i should continue to disable the driver?20:52
CPrompt^administrator : have you rebooted and chose the new kernel.  If I'm not mistaking, it rebuilds the kernel and you have to reboot20:52
administratorwhat you mean ?20:53
dectusplz: how to install g++ ?20:53
CPrompt^dectus : there's quite a bit that you need to install to compile c++ programs.  I think there's kde-devel packages and some others.  Need, autoconfig, automake, and a couple others.  Away from my home computer ATM20:54
truthHas anyone has any problems upgrading to 7.10 ?20:54
nathanCPrompt^: thanks that worked!20:54
CPrompt^nathan : glad I helped someone  LOL20:55
dectusthanks20:55
bwayne40960 MB = 40 GB or have I gone stupid yet again?20:55
MoNsTeRdoes anybody know how i install and enable the restricted driver for my graphics card?20:55
CPrompt^dectus : build-essentials is something you need as well20:55
CPrompt^MoNsTeR : what kind of card?20:56
administratorhttp://pastebin.com/m6318f26320:56
dromerhey all, I'm having trouble getting a 2nd hd to work on my pIII 800mhz, I have Kubuntu Feisty installed on the primary hd (set as master), which alone boots normally, the new hd is on the same IDE set as slave, but when it's hooked-on the boot-process get's interupted and I get: BusyBox  /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off   (initramfs)_   also, tty1 shows some output which ends with 'Target Filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init/'20:56
administratorwhy is this happening? http://pastebin.com/m6318f26320:56
CPrompt^administrator : have you rebooted?20:56
MoNsTeRdoes anybody know how i install and enable the restricted driver for my graphics card?20:56
administratorno one sec20:56
administratorwill that actually help?20:56
MoNsTeR!resticted20:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resticted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:57
MoNsTeR!restricted drivers20:57
CPrompt^MoNsTeR : i asked...what kind of card is it???20:57
geniiadministrator: sorry for lag, work called me away. I would recommend to follow the instructions on that site i gave you, and see if it helps. If not, then please report back here once more.20:57
administratori did20:57
administratorcprompt says i need reboot20:57
bwayneMoNsTeR: open the Control Center and search for "restricted".20:57
administratorwill do that and see what happens20:57
MoNsTeRCPrompt^: its ati but i didnt see that you asked sorry20:57
MoNsTeRbwayne: where?20:58
bwayneMoNsTeR: it's under System Administration in the Control Center.20:58
CPrompt^MoNsTeR : could have been me :)  Just want to let you know :)  Try Envy.  It will install the drivers and configure x.org for you :)  What ATI card is it?20:58
MoNsTeR955020:58
MoNsTeRCPrompt^: its a ati 955020:58
dectusthanks, build-essential seems to work :)20:58
clauso, anyone? (sorry for repeatedly asking, but I had some lag and maybe i missed out smtg)20:59
blubbhow can I get language stuff for kde? like correction in kmail? aspell seems to be installed20:59
MoNsTeRbwayne: i dont see system administration20:59
emilsedghblubb: go to adept manager and find suitable aspell dictionary (for example aspell-en_20:59
administratorok lets see21:00
CPrompt^MoNsTeR : check this page out. http://albertomilone.com/  That's the program that will install the drivers and configure x.org for you :)21:00
administratorno it didnt work21:00
administratorgenii21:00
MoNsTeRCPrompt^: but im not sure that i want that i rather use what kubuntu has already21:00
bwayneMoNsTeR:  it's in the KDE Control Center.21:00
CPrompt^MoNsTeR : thought your question was "how to install restricted drivers".21:01
CPrompt^MoNsTeR : follow bwayne21:01
MoNsTeRbwayne: i know that but under advanced it has system administration but no system administration21:01
administratorwhat do i do now it refuses to work?21:02
gorf_hi, i installed kubuntu , i got geforce fx5200 ( 2output) and one via/sg3 unichrome. i connected 2 monitors out of fx5200.when i try to enable 2nd monitor, system ask for xserver to restart, it kinda does to the grey screen with moving mouse :how to get out?).anybody could help start 2nd monitor?21:02
MoNsTeRi have disk @ filesystems21:02
MoNsTeR&21:02
MoNsTeRsystem services21:02
MoNsTeRlogin manager21:02
MoNsTeRwindow applications21:02
bwayneMoNsTeR: ah.  what version Kubuntu are you using?21:02
gorf_7.1gibbons21:03
MoNsTeRbwayne: feisty fawn?21:04
MoNsTeRbwayne: or what number21:04
gorf_sorry21:04
MoNsTeRbwayne: im going to install kubuntu first i just wanted to know how to enable it and i found out how21:04
bwayneMoNsTeR: with gutsy gibbon, the Restricted Drivers Manager should have notified you on first boot that you could be using a proprietary driver.  If that's not working, then something may be wrong with your installation.21:05
bwayneMoNsTeR: don't worry.  Let Gutsy lead the way.21:05
MoNsTeRbwayne: i dont have gutsy gibbon21:05
bwayneMoNsTeR: why not?  :-)21:05
iss_studentI'm getting a error when I try to access a usb hard drive after it is plugged in and recognized21:05
MoNsTeRbwayne: its not out yet21:06
MoNsTeRbwayne: not stable21:06
bwayneMoNsTeR: don't act crazy.21:06
bwayneMoNsTeR: this is the most stable Ubuntu I've used so far.21:06
bwayneiss_student: what's the error?21:06
MoNsTeRbwayne: im sure its stable but its really bloated and slow21:06
CPrompt^MoNsTeR : gutsy comes out tomorrow.  it'll be stable ;)21:07
iss_studentThe error is hal-storeage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000. Does anybody know how to fix this21:07
bwayneMoNsTeR: sure, if you're on crack.21:07
administratorCPrompt^ the reboot didnt help21:07
MoNsTeRbwayne: lol21:07
MoNsTeRbwayne: how long are you going to be here21:07
bwayneMoNsTeR:  gutsy boots much faster than feisty ever did here.21:07
CPrompt^administrator : not sure then.  Not an expert on wifi.  It doesn't seem that the install of the drivers took correctly though21:07
MoNsTeRbwayne: so you can take me through the update process21:07
bwayneit's weird, Kubuntu doesn't even feel like Ubuntu.21:08
iss_studentgutsy works great although there are still a few problems21:08
Angelushi21:08
MoNsTeRiss_student: what problems?21:08
bwayneMoNsTeR: nope.  I have to leave in a moment to tutor pre-Calculus.21:08
administratorcrap21:08
administratorisnt there an auto program21:08
MoNsTeRbwayne: ok21:08
Angelusi setted an LVM , and only LILO was avaiable to install . why? :S21:08
administratorthat can detect all your hardware and automatically set it up for you?21:08
administratorwill that be in gutsy?21:08
bwaynecould someone just make me feel better and say "yes, 40960MB is equal to 40 GB"?21:09
administratorcprompt^: how i dump all the drivers that i recently installed21:09
iss_studentOk bwayne 40960 is 40 GB21:09
administratorincluding the .deb files?21:09
bwayneiss_student: thank you!21:09
bwaynestinking cfdisk!21:10
CPrompt^bwayne : yes...that's right.  Feel better :p21:10
administratorcPrompty^ you know how to uninstall the drivers?21:10
administratorcan you tell me that url again?21:10
CPrompt^administrator : not sure21:10
MoNsTeRiss_student: dude thats why im not upgrading til its stable cause i have a usb that i use every day and i use kopete and super karamba alot too21:10
administratorcan you give me that url again CPrompt^?21:11
CPrompt^administrator : URL to what?21:11
bwayneexit21:11
geniiback21:11
CPrompt^administrator : I think that was genii there that gave you the URL21:11
administratoroh yeah21:11
administratorgenii: you about?21:11
geniiadministrator: Yes, just returned :)21:11
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geniiadministrator: this is it i think https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/mrv8k21:12
administratorok21:13
administratorthanks genii21:13
administratorgenii: i get this issue with the scan http://pastebin.com/m3137e7f821:13
geniiadministrator: OK, reading21:14
MoNsTeRiss_student: i dont have flashdrives21:14
geniiadministrator: About that i don't have any immediate ideas21:15
MoNsTeRiss_student: it wont let me pvt message you back21:15
administrator:(21:15
Angeluswhy didn't kubuntu tell me to install grub ? :S21:15
administratorok21:15
Angelusi setted up an LVM partition , maybe thats why?21:15
MoNsTeRAngelus: it does automatically21:15
administratorgenii: what i do now since i uninstalled and reinstalled taht driver21:15
administratormrv8k that is21:15
AngelusMoNsTeR: not this time, it installed lilo, is it because i used an LVM partition?21:15
geniiadministrator: Did you do the blacklisting part of the instructions?21:16
MoNsTeRAngelus: lilo isnt that bad21:16
administratoryes21:16
geniiadministrator: OK. Please tell me if command:  lsmod |grep mrv8335     shows anything21:16
Angelusi know that it aint bad MoNsTeR  just wantedto know the reason , im a curious boy :p21:16
iss_studentWhat program do I run to set permissions on a NTFS device21:17
geniiadministrator: If more than 3 lines please use pastebin website, otherwise here is OK21:17
administratorok one sec21:17
administratorgenii: no it does not21:18
Angelusso MoNsTeR  the reason why it installed lilo is because i used LVM ?21:18
MoNsTeRiss_student: its called ntfs navigation tool i think21:18
Dr_willisalso its best to paste stuff thats usefull. :) not just the generic error messages21:18
MoNsTeRAngelus: im sure thats the reason ive never used lvm install21:18
administratorgenii: is it good or bad if it doesnt show anything?21:18
geniiadministrator: OK. try then:     sudo modprobe mrv833521:18
administratorok21:18
AngelusMoNsTeR:  i heard for grub to be supported on LVM, there must be a seperate boot partition21:18
geniiadministrator: Then again with the    lsmod|grep mrv833521:19
Dr_willisI think Angelus  is right.21:19
administratorFATAL: Module mrv8335 not found.21:19
* GoOcHiE is back21:19
Dr_willisa normal /boot partition, then the rest can be on the lvm21:19
Dr_willisi think. :)21:19
administratorgenii:  FATAL: Module mrv8335 not found.21:19
administratori get that error21:19
* ScorpKing waves...21:19
administratorgenii: and the other command still shows nothing21:19
MoNsTeRAngelus: do you have 2 harddrives21:19
AngelusDr_willis: in that case LVM would be useless for me cause i would still have more then one linux partition on my hard driver :p21:20
AngelusMoNsTeR:  no,only one21:20
Dr_willisI dont use lvm. :) so what do i know.. heh..21:20
Dr_willisjust what i read/hear in here.21:20
Angelusi find it cool21:20
Angelusits the first time trying it21:20
geniiadministrator: Yes, i see. I forget if ndiswrapper makes a regular driver which can be loaded with modprobe. Perhaps then try instead the way from previously, : sudo ndiswrapper -i mrv8335.inf      (when in the dir to which you unzipped that file)21:21
MoNsTeRAngelus: whats different on lvm21:21
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administratorgenii: should i blacklist before installation?21:22
AngelusMoNsTeR: just to have linux swap and linux partition in one partition , (or more if you use more,) and i also heard its more easy to resize/move partitions on it21:22
geniiadministrator: If you did this previously the blacklisted driver should still be blacklisted. so no21:22
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administratorgenii: http://pastebin.com/m3f3f1fe221:24
administratori get this error21:24
geniiadministrator: Reading21:25
geniiadministrator: After that last line is nothing... did it just come back to command prompt?21:26
administratoryes21:26
administratorgenii: yes21:28
geniiadministrator: OK. Perhaps try then this: sudo ndiswrapper -e mrv8335 ; sudo ndiswrapper -i mrv8335.inf ; sudo ndiswrapper -l21:28
LiL-joNdoes anybody know how to install restricted driver?21:29
Dr_willis!find restricted-manager21:29
ubotuFound: restricted-manager21:29
geniiadministrator: If it successfully unloads the old one, reloads the new one then list it is in there, do:   sudo ndiswrapper -m21:29
Dr_willis!info  restricted-manager21:29
uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB21:29
Dr_willisLiL-joN,  you mean that?21:29
sea4everDoes anyone in here know Mandriva?21:29
administratorgenii: http://pastebin.com/m6ddbc5a721:30
geniiadministrator: The -m  one is supposed to make a wlan0 entry which will run upon boot21:30
LiL-joNDr_willis: yeah21:30
administratorgenii: so i should reboot the box?21:30
Dr_willisLiL-joN,  fire up the package manager, serch, click, install. :)21:30
sea4everHow can I make a Mandriva linux PC auto login on start up?21:30
Dr_willissea4ever,  that would be a KDM/gdm setting/option.21:31
feierfoxwhat is a recommented DVD-transcoding tool?21:31
feierfoxAVI to DVD21:31
sayersfeierfox: I have the same problem21:31
WaltzingAlongany plans to change the names from ubuntu and kubuntu to ubuntu with gnome and ubuntu with kde, or some such thing?21:31
geniiadministrator: Well, normally not neccesary. but in this case I would say yes, to re-initialise the entire networking system21:31
WaltzingAlong!info devede | feierfox21:31
ubotufeierfox: devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.9-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 449 kB, installed size 1060 kB21:31
Dr_willisWaltzingAlong,  i doubt it. :)21:31
administratorgenii: you mean re-install kubuntu entirely?21:32
sayersWaltzingAlong: that doesnt work really..21:32
_spanner_sea4ever: open kcontrol, under the "system administration" category choose "login manager". It's in the "convenience" tab21:32
* Dr_willis has Ubuntu-with-gnome-with-kde-with-xfce-with-matchbox-with-jwm-with-others21:32
geniiadministrator: No. During boot the computer now should hopefully properly make the wlan0 device using the ndiswrapper21:33
bjwebbis 'fsck -f /dev/sd....' the best command o use to scan a removable disk21:33
administratorok21:33
administratorgenii: i already tried a reboot and it didn't work21:33
truthwhen im doing the upgrade to 7.10 from 7.04 during the upgrade process, i get an error in the update, something about automatix21:34
geniiadministrator: does command: lsmod|grep ndiswrapper        produce a result? Just yes or no is sufficient, to know if it is being loaded21:34
Dr_willistruth,  you used automatix? that an often break upgrades...21:34
administratoryes21:34
administratorgenii: yes21:35
Dr_willisNow ya one of the reasons people in here say dont use automatix.21:35
Dr_willisMight want to check in #automatix , or pastebin the error and perhaps someone will have a idea as to what to do.21:35
bjwebbis 'fsck -f /dev/sd....' the best command o use to scan a removable disk?21:35
geniiadministrator: OK. so now, do: ifconfig        and tell me if device wlan0 appears in the list of network devices21:36
administratorkk21:36
Dr_willisbjwebb,  j IS there another command? i dont know of any.21:36
Dr_willisthat will check the filesystem..    :)21:36
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administratorgenii: http://pastebin.com/m725e9610 not sure21:37
geniireading21:37
bjwebbDr_willis: i dunno, thats why im asking :D21:37
truthit's uninstalled now, and i still get the rror21:38
lee986321say any one have an idea where that restricted driver is at in feisty?21:38
lee986321in kubuntu?21:39
geniiwork,AFK a couple21:40
administratorgenii: what i do?]21:40
lee986321hello?21:40
lee986321any one home lol21:40
ded1lee986321:  try restr<tab> in colsone21:41
lee986321eoh ok21:42
lee986321eh im in festy fawn21:42
lee986321whats a cosone?21:43
LiL-joNhey everybody i just finished installing kubuntu ill be right back21:43
administratorgenii: where did you go?21:43
lee986321eh colsone?21:43
ded1console :)21:44
lee986321bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'21:45
mpai just installed kooldock, but i cant find it in the menu21:45
lee986321eh she ent to work21:45
The_Machinei'm having a hard time restoring grub from a live cd (kubuntu 7.10 beta)21:45
The_Machinecould someone help me?21:45
lee986321wre's he restricted driver hiding at?21:45
The_Machinei have followed the directions here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113&highlight=grub+restore&page=221:45
The_Machinebut it isn't wrking so well21:45
Ben_Csstill having the ssh server problem. didn't have it when run ssh from kubuntu gutsy beta cd. the problem is that when i "ssh localhost" i get nothing. no login, nothing. as if the prog hanges in terminal  any ideas?21:46
mpai just installed kooldock, but i cant find it in the menu21:46
lee986321ben do you hasve a second hdd?21:46
geniiback21:47
Ben_Cslee986321: no21:47
Ben_Cslee986321: y?21:47
geniiadministrator: I'm at work so once in a while i need to go away from the computer when they need me, etc21:47
lee986321well maybe i t can work with the disk...though not sure21:47
lee986321there is a back up taht is automaticaly made21:47
administratorgenii: ok didnt know21:48
Ben_Cslee986321: from livecd ssh works fine21:48
geniiadministrator: Ok, read the paste. your wlan0 device is not being set up21:48
woundedfawx!dban21:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dban - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:48
geniiadministrator: Please pastebin the contents of your file /etc/network/interfaces21:48
sub[t]rnlmpa: do an alt+f2 then kooldock21:49
administratorgenii: how i do that21:49
lee986321yeah, waht I am saying is that if your trying to restore the grub try when using the  lice cd    sudo nano /ect/x11/org.conf21:49
mpawont work21:49
lee986321oh wait never mind thats for the vid issue21:49
geniiadministrator: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces                   then it will open in the editor. you can copy it from there. Keep it open after in case we need to adjust it21:49
sub[t]rnlmpa: how did you install kooldock?21:50
lee986321 hmm can some one tell me where that natoriouse restricetd driver is hiding at?21:50
administratorgenii: http://pastebin.com/m1b186fb321:51
geniiadministrator: Ok, reading21:51
setforfaenhello everyone. my knetworkmanager somehow decided to go into "manual wireless mode" forever. I'm unable to do a simple site survey... so my question is how can I reset all network settings to default?21:51
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geniiadministrator: LOL. OK, for that command, do first alt-f2    then type it in there to run it21:52
administratorgenii: ok21:53
cbohello all. the power manager applet is loaded but no info about battery charge is given, what could i do?21:54
administratorgenii: http://pastebin.com/m7d5978af21:54
setforfaenhello everyone. my knetworkmanager somehow decided to go into "manual wireless mode" forever. I'm unable to do a simple site survey... so my question is how can I reset all network settings to default?21:54
VermuxHow do I quit BC ?21:55
Vermuxdoes anyone know how to quit bc in shell?21:56
setforfaeninit 0 ?21:56
ScorpKingsetforfaen: the easiest i think will be to edit /etc/network/interfaces21:56
setforfaenScorpKing: will that reset knetworkmanager to default settings, where I can do a simple site survey?21:57
geniiadministrator: OK, you have 1 wired adapter and 1 wireless actuallly in there?21:57
administratoryes21:57
The_Machineneed help with grub reinstallatino PLEASE21:57
cboVermux: quit21:57
The_Machinei'm in the live CD, at grub menu21:57
The_Machinemy HDD is at /media/sda121:57
ScorpKing!grub The_Machine21:57
administratorgenii: yes21:57
Vermuxcbo: haleluya21:57
* The_Machine waits to get !grub'd21:57
The_Machine!grub21:57
geniiadministrator: OK, remove the entries for eth1,eth2 and for ath0.21:57
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:57
ScorpKinglol.21:57
sebastian^hehe21:58
sebastian^:)21:58
administratorgenii: how i do that? :p21:58
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cboVermux: always try Control-C when dont know how to exit a program21:58
The_MachineScorpKing, i have a problem with those instructions21:58
The_Machinei tried them already and they didn't work21:58
ScorpKingsetforfaen: if you remove all the changes that got made in interfaces knetworkmanager will be back to default.21:58
The_Machinei believe that's because it's because of how my hdd is mounted in the live CD or something (?)21:59
geniiadministrator: If you have the file still open, just use the editor to put a # in front of those lines. then save.21:59
Vermuxcbo: thanks for the advice21:59
administratorgenii: all the lines?21:59
ScorpKingThe_Machine: i have no idea. grub is one thing i never played with. :P21:59
administratorgenii: ok21:59
cboVermux: you're wellcome21:59
* The_Machine would really like to both fix this and learn this21:59
geniiadministrator: Just put a # in front of the entries for eth1 eth2 and ath0. For the others just leave them as is21:59
The_Machineanyone who can help me with restoring grub?  (without typing !grub The_Machine ?)22:00
administratorgeni: done22:00
administratorgenii: done22:00
The_MachineScorpKing, man, thanks a lot for trying, I appreciate it :)22:00
Hatlhi! if i execute "kwrite" as root i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server" what's the problem?22:00
geniiadministrator. by those entries i mean the line with that name and the line right below22:00
administratorgenii: done22:00
sub[t]rnlHatl: try not running it as root22:00
geniiadministrator: Ok, good. 1 minute , i need to look up something about ndiswrapper. Will be back. you can close the editor if you like22:01
Hatlbut i want to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst using kwrite22:01
sub[t]rnlHatl: sudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.1st22:01
Hatli want to start it using a root shell (opened with "su -")22:02
ScorpKingThe_Machine: np. one day i'll take a look at one of the install scripts like Puppy linux's installer. it's in there. :022:02
Hatlcause i dont want to start every command with sudo :)22:02
The_Machinehmm22:02
sub[t]rnlhat1: you are starting it as root, but if you want to start it from a root shell, you'll need to have your xserver started with the root account, not recommended22:02
cboHatl: kdesu22:02
The_Machinethis is really frustrating22:02
Hatli also dont want to start every command using kdesu :)22:03
cboHatl: setuid22:04
geniiadministrator: OK, back. Please try now the command: ifup wlan022:04
Hatlcbo: you mean i should set the uid of my user to 0?22:04
geniiadministrator: You may need sudo in front of that, my bad22:04
setforfaenScorpKing: doing a "mv interfaces interfaces.bak" and a restart of knetwork app did no change22:04
cboHatl: you could do a script setuid root22:05
setforfaenand I fail to see what the interfaces config file would do for wireless22:05
administratorgenii: how? sudo# or #sudo22:05
Hatli just want to start X applications using a shell started with "su -"22:05
ScorpKingsetforfaen: pastebin your interfaces file22:06
sash_hey guys, does anyone know how to patch WiFi on ThinkPad 40 for packet injection?22:06
Hatli tried "xhost +" but didnt work22:06
setforfaenScorpKing: http://pastebin.ca/74031522:06
ScorpKingUSEFULL Info - knetworkmanager seems to hang when connection to secured wireless networks. use Wifi-radar to get pats that. :D22:07
ScorpKinggetting stuck at 28% that is.22:07
geniiadministrator: sudo ifup wlan022:08
The_Machinehow do i start kubuntu without the "Kubuntu" gui at startup?   anyone?22:09
geniiadministrator: If that command completes without errors, then please pastebin the results of command:   ifconfig      again22:09
administratorgenii: i get errors22:10
administratorgenii: how do i place sudo in front of #?22:10
geniiThe_Machine: For one time only hit ESC at grub, edit default kernel line to remove splash line22:10
HatlThe_Machine: you can edit the start screen with kcontrol22:10
The_Machinethanks guys!22:11
administratorgenii: http://pastebin.com/m67392d4222:11
ScorpKingsetforfaen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40985/ make it look like that.22:11
Hatlif i execute "kwrite" as root (su -) i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server", what's the problem?22:12
ScorpKingsash_: i think there is a guide on ubuntudocs for that.22:12
ScorpKingHatl: let me get the link for that. one sec22:12
geniiadministrator: Well I'm pretty much out of immediate ideas then right now22:13
administratorgenii: you never told how i put sudo in front of #22:13
administratorgenii: do i still need to do that? cause i didnt do it yet22:13
Vermuxhow do I display a content of a file in shell? cat doesnt work22:13
ScorpKingHatl: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964.0;topicseen22:13
bobesponjahi22:14
setforfaenScorpKing: how do I re-read all network settings, so that the new interfaces file is read, and knetwork applet starts working?22:14
bobesponjaare there dolphin kde4 packages? I can't find them22:14
geniiadministrator: when you ask about how to put sudo in front of # it is a confusing question. the # of the command prompt? If you have a # instead of a $ as command prompt you are on as root22:14
ScorpKingsetforfaen: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart22:14
sub[t]rnlbobesponja: dolphin comes with the gutsy release, so I know they're out there22:14
administratorgenii: here is one of the lines "#auto eth1" how should it look with the sudo?22:15
bobesponjasub[t]rnl: I'm running on gutsy actually, latest22:15
Vermuxcbo: how do I display the content of a file in shell? cat doesnt work!22:15
geniiadministrator: no, the sudo command of "sudo ifup wlan0" does NOT go in the file. It is to be typed at the console only.22:15
sub[t]rnlbobesponja: dolphin file manager is in start->system22:15
cbocat should work22:16
bobesponjasub[t]rnl: yes but I'm looking for the kde4 version22:16
cboVermux: cat should work22:16
administratorgenii: im not talking about the sudo ifup wlna0" im talking about that kate notepad that opened up and you told me to put # in front of specified lines remember?22:16
ScorpKingcbo: on my box i have the same problem with cat sometimes22:16
sub[t]rnlI thought dolphin -was- the kde4 version, its a sampler of the upcoming kde422:16
bobesponjaVermux: maybe you don't have permissions, try with sudo cat file22:17
administratorgenii: then you said to place sudo in front and that confused me22:17
geniiadministrator: Yes, but it has nothing at all to do with sudo22:17
bobesponjasub[t]rnl: nope, it's the buggy kde3 version that comes with gutsy22:17
setforfaenScorpKing: The problem is still persistant. I don't have any problems getting the interfaces to work properly. The problem is that it won't list the wireless networks (I've made sure that the wireless switch is on, and all typical errors are non existant). It will only let me configure wireless networks manually, with no wpa support22:17
HatlScorpKing: this link doesn't solve my problem. its about an error while starting the X server22:17
geniiadministrator: when i said to place sudo in front, that was referring to when i instructed you to only type: ifup wlan0       instead of:  sudo ifup wlan022:17
administratoroh i see22:18
administratorok22:18
administratorgenii: that tutorial that i followed, is that one outdated?22:18
cboScorpKing: what do you get instead the contents of the file?22:18
Vermuxbobesponja: it doesnt work22:19
geniiadministrator: No, that tutorial is fairly current, although originally would have been for 6.06 (Dapper) ubuntu. Still apliccable however22:19
MoNsTeRcan somebody help me with changing one panel but not the other one22:19
sub[t]rnlHatl: the xserver belongs to the user that started it.  You can start an xserver as root, and then root will be able to connect to the display, or you can just simply do "kdesu kwrite" to edit files with kwrite as root22:19
geniibah typos22:19
ScorpKingsetforfaen: install wifi-radar and try it. knetworkmanager does have a few bugs regarding wireless.22:19
* genii searches for his next sip of coffee22:19
sub[t]rnlHatl: it was done this way for a reason22:19
Vermuxbobesponja: when I open it from home folder in the desktop it works22:19
administratorgenii: then why didnt it function for me properly?22:20
ScorpKingHatl: can you pastebin the error you get?22:20
Hatlkwrite: cannot connect to X server22:20
ScorpKingcbo: it's working now.22:20
geniiadministrator: That is what we are trying to discover :)22:20
ScorpKingHatl: do you run as a normal user or root?22:20
sub[t]rnlHat1: don't run it from a root shell within a user started xserver... pretty simple22:21
Hatlas root, "su - " and then "kwrite"22:21
Vermuxbobesponja: other file I can c, but this kwrite file I cannot c22:21
ScorpKingHatl: use kdesu kate instead22:21
Hatli start one konsole as root and i want to start X applications from there22:21
ScorpKingHatl: or kwrite22:21
administratorgenii: would you recommend that i re-install kubuntu then?22:22
geniiadministrator: please pastebin contents of file: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist22:22
Hatlits not just about kwrite, i want to start different X applications using a root shell22:22
Hatlbecause i dont want to use sudo or kdeu all the time :)22:22
ScorpKingHatl: that won't work. put kdesu in front before you start an app. like kdesu kwrite. that will start it as root.22:22
sub[t]rnlHatl: if you want to start applications as root, then create an icon, and add in "kdesu" before the application command.22:22
cboHatl: xnest22:23
geniiadministrator: No, i would not recomment a reinstall of the operating system. If this issue is occuring now the odds of a reinstall automatically somehow making it disappear are not good22:23
HatlScorpKing: it works (on my gentoo installation :) )22:23
ScorpKingHatl: i think *ubuntu have disabled that.22:24
Vermuxnobody knows why cat cannot display kwrite file?22:24
setforfaenIsn't there a way to just reset ALL settings that has with knetworkapplet to do22:24
setforfaenand wireless22:24
setforfaenheh22:24
cboVemux: what do you get instead file content22:24
HatlScorpKing: its possible to enable it but i dont know how22:25
cboVermux: what do you get instead file content22:25
geniiadministrator: remember for opening config files and so on, alt-f2 then:   kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist          (in this case)22:25
tzangerevening everyone22:25
setforfaenwifi-radar came off as buggy to me... couldn't edit a profile in it22:25
HatlScorpKing: i tried "xhost +" but it doesnt work22:25
Vermuxcbo: >22:25
cboVermux: and the command you enter?22:25
tzangerI've got a strange printing problem...  the printer works with cups attached to the commputer.  I have added it to my kubuntu box as a remote cups printer, and cups (on the computer with the printer) is set up to accept connections22:25
geniiadministrator: Keep the file open after the copy/paste to pastebin site. we may need to edit22:25
Vermuxcat FileName22:26
tzangerI can submit a job but they are always held, and if I use wireshark to look at the ipp traffic, the cups server I'm trying to print to spits back "no file?!"22:26
ScorpKingsetforfaen: if knetworkmanager don't get dhcp from the wireless router it won't work. a lot of people have problems with knetworkmanager and wireless. i use wireless myself. :P try to connect manually to a network.22:26
Hatlcbo: xnest isnt what i want. its just a stupid config file entry i need :)22:26
Vermuxcbo: cat FileName22:26
administratorgenii: what file?22:27
administratorbrb genii22:27
ScorpKingsetforfaen: you have to start wifi-radar as root.22:27
geniiadministrator: alt-f2 then:   kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist22:27
geniiadministrator: so the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   is the one i'm speaking of22:27
cboVermux: strange...22:27
setforfaenScorpKing: You are misunderstanding... The problem is not related to DHCP or IP configuration on the interface. The problem is related to knetworkmanager being unable to do a simple site survey. It did it before. I don't see any options in the settings where I can put on site survey. It just says "manual settings" where the ssid's where before22:27
setforfaenI can connect to a wireless network by manually editing it22:28
Vermuxcbo: I also tried sudo cat FileName22:28
geniiAFK, need coffee22:28
setforfaenI did start wifi radar as root - but, as I said, I couldn't edit the profiles22:28
ScorpKingsetforfaen: lol. i see.22:28
cboVermux: less FileName22:28
HatlDISPLAY=:0 and xhost +localhost did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!22:28
Vermuxcbo: what is less?22:29
HatlDISPLAY=:0 and "xhost +localhost" did it :)22:29
ScorpKingsetforfaen: looking for a solution...22:29
BonBonTheJonIn gutsy, when I try opening kopete, it crashes. Any others confirm?22:29
cboHatl: congratulations22:29
setforfaenScorpKing: Yes it's all hilarious. I'd configure it manually if it had options for manually editing wpa-psk :)22:29
setforfaenScorpKing: many thanks22:29
Vermuxcbo: give the same result: >22:30
administratorgenii:22:30
Hatlcbo: thx22:30
administratorgenii: what were you talking about before?22:30
cboVermux: i think the problem is in the file22:30
Vermuxcbo: it is a text file22:30
cboVermux: ls -l FileName22:30
pillowpantsdoes anyone here use rtorrent?22:31
ScorpKingsetforfaen: haha. true - /home/you/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc* is where the settings are kept i think. move those to another location and start knet.. again.22:31
cboMUCHACHADA NUI22:31
administratorgenii: http://pastebin.com/m3b3203c822:32
Vermuxcbo: same. : >22:32
imagine[laptop]whenever I put my mouse on top or on the bottom of the screen it minimizes all my window what is that option so I can disable it ?22:32
cboVermux: sudo ls -l FileName22:32
ScorpKingVermux: ls -l filename. what are the permissions?22:33
ScorpKinghehe22:33
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* ScorpKing pass genii a much needed refill...22:33
setforfaenScorpKing: Tried it. Defaulted settings (as it asked me to confirm me wanting to quit after quitting), but same problem :S22:33
Vermuxcbo: doesnt work too22:34
VermuxScorpKing: output: >22:34
ScorpKingsetforfaen: does it have "Connect to other Wireless Network" option when you right click on it?22:34
imagine[laptop]Anyone plz ?22:34
administratorgenii: you about?22:35
ScorpKingVermux: sudo su - then - ls -l filename ?22:35
ardchoilleimagine[laptop]: is it actually minimising windows or is it switch to another desktop (moue rollover)?22:35
geniiScorpKing: Thx22:35
ScorpKingnp :D22:35
geniiadministrator: Yes, just now. reading your paste22:35
setforfaenScorpKing: nope22:36
ScorpKingsetforfaen: then the drivers for your card is not installed. what card do you have?22:36
setforfaenScorpKing: Wifi-Radar is able to do a site survey22:36
setforfaenipw391522:37
imagine[laptop]ardchoille: Minimizing, and the mouse changes itself to become an arrow when I reach top/bottom and both edges..22:37
lee__eh if ther are no rested drivers showing up does that mean that evey thing is normal? well sor of lol?22:37
imagine[laptop]It's like scaling application with Beryl/Compiz-fusion22:37
ScorpKingsetforfaen: what is the output from iwconfig?22:37
ardchoilleimagine[laptop]: are you using beryl or compiz?22:37
imagine[laptop]ardchoille: no.. I did use it.. but running on kwin now22:38
geniiadministrator: OK, you can remove all the extra lines of "blacklist mrv8k"  but leave 1. Otherwise that file looks like it should.22:38
administratorgenii: what you mean?22:38
ardchoilleimagine[laptop]: I asked because that is weird22:38
* genii sighs22:38
ScorpKinglol @ genii22:38
imagine[laptop]ardchoille: yes it looks like it'sa  aghost feature from beryl..22:38
administratoroh ok22:38
MoNsTeRhow do i edit xorg .conf file22:38
administratorsorry22:38
lee__if theres isnt anny resrtceted drivers showing does that mean it is ok?22:38
administratorgenii: now what i do?22:39
ScorpKingMoNsTeR: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:39
VermuxScorpKing: problem solved22:39
geniiadministrator: I mean that there are 6 lines of "blacklist mrv8k" and only 1 line of "blacklist mrv8k" is needed22:39
ardchoilleMoNsTeR: back it up first. then do: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:39
ScorpKingVermux: how?22:39
administratorgenii: i got ;) sorry i just have several others servers to deal with22:39
administratorgenii: now what those lines are gone22:39
setforfaenScorpKing: http://pastebin.ca/74036822:39
imagine[laptop]ardchoille: it's very weird.. and I hate that feature... I don't know how to disable it..22:40
VermuxScorpKing: I didnt know that I should type \ before ' or before space22:40
VermuxScorpKing: in regards to the filename22:40
ScorpKingimagine[laptop]: it's in kcontrol somewhere22:40
ardchoilleimagine[laptop]: are you sure you're on kwin now? Because that sounds like might still be in compiz/beryl22:40
hydrogenVermux: tab completion is your friend :)22:40
imagine[laptop]ardchoille: positive, did kwin --replace twice...22:40
ScorpKingVermux: haha. that make sense. lol22:40
Vermuxhydrogen: now I know22:40
ardchoilleimagine[laptop]: have you tried logging out and back in?22:40
geniiadministrator: OK, good. From here anything I would suggest would be mostly speculation fom me as to what the problem is. It seems not to know about device wlan0 and so cannot set it up.22:41
imagine[laptop]it's been doing it for weeks22:41
ardchoilleoh22:41
imagine[laptop]ScorpKing: gonna try to find it22:42
administratorgenii: so you dont know what else to do?22:42
lee__hydrogen no restrcted drivers mens that everytings been found right?22:42
ScorpKingsetforfaen: lsmod | grep ipw - do you see the driver there?22:42
ndreaEverytime i close Dolphin I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40995/    what should I do?22:42
setforfaenhey ScorpKing ... I just noticed that the restricted drivers icon is missing. How do I restart that?22:42
lee__I have that same issue lol22:43
setforfaenScorpKing: YEs, ipw3945 and ieee80211 is loaded22:43
ScorpKingsetforfaen: using gusty? heh, no idea.22:43
geniiadministrator: In some cases for wireless adapters, extra commands are needed in the file /etc/network/interfaces   We opened and looked at this already. You could attempt there to specify an IP and essid or such. But as I said this would be speculation from me. It would still need to be able to see that the device exists22:43
setforfaenusing 7.10 beta22:43
imagine[laptop]ardchoille: actually scale plugin not workin when using ocmpiz --replace.. it's a kwin specific22:43
travis_anyone know how to change the threshold for kbluelock?22:43
MoNsTeRhow do i restart X22:44
ScorpKingsetforfaen: lol. that might be the problem. using 7.04 here.22:44
lee__wao we have an administrator..wow that raare22:44
ScorpKingMoNsTeR: <ctrl>+<alt>+<backspace> or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart22:44
setforfaenScorpKing: I checked in kcontrolcenter - the restricted fw is in use22:44
geniiadministrator: An example can be found here (for a different card but it shows the way to make the proper entry in the file /etc/network/interfaces) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/manual-network-setup-works-etcnetworkinterfaces-doesnt-450357/22:45
ScorpKingsetforfaen: maybe a reboot? lol22:45
setforfaenScorpKing: lmao tried that several times already22:45
geniiBah. Not even a thanks for the effort22:45
* genii sips a coffee and sulks22:45
administratorgenii: i think ill just reinstall kubuntu22:45
kaminixAnyone know if there's any problems using scim/skim with ANTHY in Gutsy? Remember having troubles in the beta, don't want to switch toworrow unless it works.22:45
* ScorpKing pass genii a doughnut to cheer him up...22:45
setforfaenBut I can try it again in a bit22:45
administratorgenii: i tried to install nfts-config and had issues so i think it messed up there22:46
Ben_Cshello22:46
geniiadministrator: If you feel you must. but I will bet the same issue will exist afterwards.22:46
ScorpKingsetforfaen: haha. i'm out of ideas.22:46
Ben_Cswhen i "ssh localhost" i get after several minutes: ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection timed out22:46
lee__hmm I am confused lol22:46
Ben_Csplease help22:46
setforfaenScorpKing: Thanks for the help anyways22:46
geniiScorpKing: tHANKS22:47
lee__genii, iam kinda a curiouse  as to why I have a missing restricted drivr..or does that simply mean that everything has been found?22:47
ScorpKingndrea: run chmod u+w /home/andrea/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml22:47
geniiBen_Cs: sudo apt-get install openssh-server22:47
ScorpKingsetforfaen, genii :np22:48
lee__if this is the case I hope the update doesnt kill my drover22:48
lee__ati22:48
mikedomocountdown begins22:48
mikedomoto arrive new gutsy gibbon22:48
ScorpKingsetforfaen: i think for some reason knetworkmanager doens't see your card. :(22:49
geniilee__: I haven't been following the scroll :( But if you ran restricted-manager  and it told you no drivers needed likely it's not fibbing22:49
lee__scorpKing, if there is no restricted drivers does that mean the programs found pretty much everything?22:49
imagine[laptop]can you upgrade feisty without downloadin the Live DVD22:49
imagine[laptop]with apt-get for example22:49
imagine[laptop]apt-get dist upgrade ?22:49
hydrogenupgrade feisty from/to what?22:49
lee__hmm how do I run that program?22:49
imagine[laptop]to gutsy22:49
imagine[laptop]like tomorrow22:49
lee__I went into my settings and ithere something about open gl22:50
mikedomogutsy gibbon22:50
ScorpKinglee__: not sure. things usually works better with the drivers installed. :P22:50
geniilee__: alt-f2 then: kdesu restricted-manager22:50
mikedomothe true ubuntu power22:50
lee__ah ty22:50
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ScorpKingndrea: try chmod u+w /home/andrea/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin22:50
geniilee__: If can't be found you can install it from package manager22:50
ndreaok22:51
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ScorpKingndrea: that will make the directory writeable for you.22:51
lee__wahts the comand line for getting it it said error comand not found22:51
geniiadministrator: Since I'm not sure you got my last msg before you left/returned22:51
geniiadministrator: An example can be found here (for a different card but it shows the way to make the proper entry in the file /etc/network/interfaces) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/manual-network-setup-works-etcnetworkinterfaces-doesnt-450357/22:51
ScorpKing:D having fun genii? :P22:52
geniiadministrator: That is for specifying about wlan0 things like essid IP address and so on22:52
geniilee__: `One moment22:52
lee__genii, is it apt get.wahts the command  to ge tit22:52
lee__Oh ok22:52
ndreaScorpKing: again the same error22:52
ScorpKinglee__: apt-get or aptitude22:52
pillowpantshow similar is ktorrent to utorrent?22:52
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lee__ok22:53
ScorpKingndrea: what does ls -l /home/andrea/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin say?22:53
ndreahm, solved... I had to do sudo chown andrea:andrea -R ~/.kde22:54
ScorpKinglol22:54
ndreahm... why lol? =)22:54
geniilee__: I suspect that: sudo apt-get install restricted-manager                may do it22:54
* ardchoille wonders how that happened22:55
ScorpKingndrea: i wonder why is that? did you copy the files from somewhere else?22:55
ndreawhich files?22:55
ScorpKing.kde22:55
lee__Success22:55
lee__ty22:55
ScorpKingnp22:55
ardchoillendrea: Why was the ~/.kde folder belonging to another user?22:55
ndreahm, I think not... not sure22:55
ScorpKinglol22:56
lee__thank you genii22:56
ScorpKing!helpersnack | genii22:56
ubotugenii: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!22:56
ScorpKing:D22:56
* ardchoille hands genii a coffee to go with the cookie22:57
BluesKajdoes anyone here have the 64 bit gutsy version installed on a pc with elcheapo ati x200 graphics, like I have ?22:57
geniilee__: You may also want to install a package of name:  linux-restricted-modules-      then here would be your specific kernel name. so possiblylinux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic  if that is your kernel22:57
geniiardchoille, ScorpKing Thanks, i needed that :)22:57
ScorpKinghehe. np22:58
ardchoillegenii:  linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` works too22:58
geniiardchoille: Yes : You can tell I'm needing my caffeine about now LOL22:58
BluesKajerr lemme rephrase that:,  does anyone here have the 64 bit gutsy version installed on a pc with elcheapo ati x200 graphics ?22:58
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ardchoillelol22:58
lee__genii not sure waht i am runnug other then its kubunu22:58
lee__I just executed that comand line for restricted drivers didnt see any ything that came up22:59
geniilee__: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`22:59
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: Xpress110022:59
geniilee__: the `  are beside the 1 key not beside the enter key22:59
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: close enuogh?22:59
BluesKajX1100 sounds more advanced than X200 , nosrednaekim :)23:00
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: its petty much the same chip, detected as a xpress 200 in fiesty23:00
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lee__E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules23:01
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BluesKajnosrednaekim, I tried the 64bit version of tribe 3-4-5 , none would even boot past the menu scrn ...any ideas ?23:01
chriswilliamsis aiglx in kubuntu?23:01
ardchoillelee__:  linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`23:01
chriswilliamsand enabled by default?23:01
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: nah... depends greatly on your hardware23:01
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: however... I did have a question for you regarding the ATI 8.41 drivers.23:02
geniilee__: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`          <--- exactly that23:02
BluesKajshoot , nosrednaekim23:02
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: did you have to do anything funny with LibGL?23:02
geniilee__: copy and paste if neccesary :)23:03
lee__linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic is already the newest version.23:04
lee__just a sec checking something23:04
geniilee__: Good. then just do then:   alt-f2  then type in:   kdesu restricted-manager23:04
BluesKajit failed 3D and DRI after an adept update which broke the xorg.config file while I wasn't paying attention ...I should have known better ...it replaced mylibGL.so file with a newer version that doesn't work with google earth23:04
geniiand click "Run" button23:05
ScorpKingwhy are there two sets of resolve.conf? /etc/sesolve.conf and /etc/ppp/resolve.conf. the one in /etc/ppp/ is used by dailup connections but that cause some of the apps in kde like konq not to have internet/dns. wtf?23:05
lee__hmm must be good news nothing popped up23:06
geniiScorpKing: Because your lan might need 1 set of dns and your dialup modem another entirely different set of dns servers23:06
lee__I am in the Kinfo cneter though23:06
lee__and theres an open gl Icon that is htere23:06
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: how did you install? straight from the .run or from autogenerated debs?23:07
BluesKajnosrednaekim, I reverted to feisty afterwards ...new gutsy or no..if it won't do google earth , it's not for me :P23:07
nosrednaekimheh23:07
galathalionhow do i zip a file in a terminal?23:07
lee__and its saying Messa 1.323:07
ScorpKinggenii: so why does konqueror not use whichever one is being used? it doensn't even try to lookup a site, it just say not found after a millisecond.23:07
BluesKajnosrednaekim, I just sudo ./******.run23:07
geniiScorpKing: You can run with default gateway normall for lan, then in ppp options file put: replacedefaultroute which will switch to dialup for dns23:07
BluesKajI DL'd the run file , nosrednaekim23:08
geniiScorpKing: Since there can be only 1 DEFAULT route it must know which to use at any given moment23:08
Vermux!expr23:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about expr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:08
lee__genii when I did taht alt f2 and ran it nothing happend23:08
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: i see, that doens't work on 64 bit.. probably my problem23:08
BluesKajnosrednaekim, http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeonhdd.html23:08
MoNsTeRhow do i install firefox23:09
Vermux!expression23:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about expression - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:09
lee__Iam guessing I have a version taht finally recognises my ati card lol23:09
Vermuxgrrr23:09
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: i'll check into it later, thanks23:09
lee__is there a way to save taht data?23:09
ScorpKinggenii: thanks. guys that use dsl modems that require authentication from the box have the same problem btw, like that guy Bleep the had so much trouble. lol.23:09
lee__ or back it up so that when gutsy omes out I can plug it in to it?23:10
ScorpKingthat*23:10
BluesKajnosrednaekim, that's the experimental HD version for the Radeon 2900 card but I was inforn=med that it works for most Radeons23:10
geniilee__: open a Konsole then, and put the command in there:    kdesu restricted-manager                   if it gives some info about why not popping up it will be left in the terminal hopefully23:10
Vermuxis the command "expr"important?23:10
lee__oh boy ok it came up but boy a lot of erroers in the comand lines23:11
geniilee__: Then again, it may already be running, in the tray. Did you look there by the clock already?23:11
MoNsTeRhow do i install firefox23:11
boubbinanyone able to upgrade to the newest kde ?23:11
lee__Failed to open device\23:12
lee__but I have it up now lol23:12
boubbinhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-358.php to this23:12
ScorpKinggenii: so i just add replacedefaultroute to /etc/ppp/options right?23:12
MrBallZquestion: is Gutsy coming with KDE 3.5.8 ?  or  .7 ??23:12
geniilee__: Yeah that will be the X groaning because the entries about wacom in the xorg.conf file. no worries23:12
geniiScorpKing: Yup23:12
ScorpKinggenii: thanks a lot. been bugging me for a while. will try it next time i dail up. :D23:13
geniiScorpKing: possibly also noauth23:13
ScorpKingit there23:13
ScorpKing's*23:13
geniiScorpKing: :)23:13
* ScorpKing adding genii to his hero list...23:14
lee__eh iam writing notes in my pda phone23:14
lee__ok thanks genii23:14
geniilee__: Yer welcome23:15
geniiMoNsTeR: Open adept and look for package firefox, then check it off and install it.23:17
ScorpKinggenii: heh, i never knew pppd used those files (looking around in /etc/ppp/*). always thought wvdail did it all. now a lot of things make sense.23:18
MoNsTeRgenii: i did23:18
MoNsTeRhow do i install ms core fonts23:18
ScorpKingMoNsTeR: add them to /home/you/.fonts/23:19
intexHey, guys. After trying to install Java 6 Runtime Environment, Adept Manager keeps saying "There was an error committing changes..." everytime I try to install something new. Any help?23:19
Vermuxhow do I use the command "expr"?23:20
stanhi23:20
MoNsTeRScorpKing: dude i meen the fonts from micro soft23:20
MoNsTeRScorpKing: like arial23:20
geniiMoNsTeR: Adept again. Look for package msttcorefonts23:20
lee__ok why is it giving me this?23:20
ScorpKingMoNsTeR: truetype?23:20
lee__sudo: unable to execute /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run: Permission denied23:20
Vermuxwho knows how to use "expr?23:20
standoes anyone know the exact hour of gutsy gibbon to download because the countdown for me its almost 0 :-)23:20
ScorpKingstan: it 00:20 here. lol23:21
stanyes23:21
stan:P23:21
stanand its not ready :(23:21
lee__genii whats this mean ?sudo: unable to execute /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run: Permission denied23:21
ScorpKinglol. poor servers today...23:21
stannoooooooo23:21
geniilee__: chmod +x /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run23:21
lee__ahh ok23:22
lee__ty23:22
geniilee__: OOPS... sudo chmod +x /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run23:22
stanScorpKing i am always refreshing the page so when it will be ready23:22
stani will tell you23:22
stan:P23:22
ScorpKinglol23:22
MrBallZquestion: is Gutsy coming with KDE 3.5.8 ?  or  .7 ??23:22
geniistan: Yer a one man DDOS machine LOL23:22
hydrogenMrBallZ: 3.5.823:23
happytiger3,5823:23
stangenii hahahahahahah lol23:23
genii!info kdelibs gutsy23:23
ubotukdelibs: core libraries from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 42 kB, installed size 92 kB23:23
stangenii i am to excited of waiting it23:23
x128hello everyone, i want to know what is the default root password?23:23
ScorpKingstan: i wont download it soon. i'm very happy with 7.04. very little problems and my laptop is a bit small. i also have a load of packages for feisty which will take me ages to get for gusty again. i'll wait a while. ;-)23:23
geniiMrBallZ: 3.5.823:23
ScorpKing!sudo23:23
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.23:23
lee__ok that just returns me lol23:24
ScorpKingx128: see there ^^23:24
happytigerScorpKing: 7.10 pretty solid23:24
happytigeri dont use anythimg else23:24
stanScorpKing you're ok but i messed up my pc with a lot of stuff and i just want to format it now and install a fresh copy ;-)23:24
ScorpKingmaybe when i get my new box. :P23:24
ScorpKingintex: go to konsole23:25
intexI'm there... =)23:25
ScorpKingintex: type - sudo aptitude install blablaanycrapyouwantthatdoesnotexist23:25
geniilee__: You were able to run it but then it just dumped you back to command-line? Or was it trying to install from restricted-manager23:26
ScorpKingintex: that will tel you of any broken packages and remove them.23:26
MoNsTeRhow do i make my kde look kool23:26
MementoMorihi all23:26
geniinvm, you were sudo /runnning/it23:26
happytigerkde looks cool with compiz fushion23:26
MementoMoridoes anyone have the torrent link for kubuntu 7.10 dvd ?23:27
geniilee__: If no errors likely it completed fine then23:27
ScorpKingMoNsTeR: go to http://www.kde-look.org and look around.23:27
stanMementoMori thats what i am waiting for too23:27
ScorpKingintex: anything about broken packages?23:27
MementoMorihttp://www.ubuntu-it.org/ does not load!23:27
intexScorp, should I post my output here?23:27
ScorpKing!pastebin | intex23:28
ubotuintex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:28
ScorpKingthere :D23:28
MementoMorihttp://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=kubuntu+7.10 hasnt yet the final dvd version23:28
ScorpKinglol23:28
juan_im just running kubuntu why does my laptop think its in 3d mode?23:29
lee__normally theres a pop up that comes up wuth penquins23:29
intexScorp, can you see it?23:29
ScorpKingjust so you all know. gusty will be released today (18) but today will have 24 hours so it will be the 18th all day. :P23:29
stanMementoMori can i ask you why do you want to download it from isohunt when it is in the downloads section23:29
lee__asking how id like to istall th drivers.23:29
ScorpKingintex: where?23:30
MementoMoristan: yes you can23:30
lee__kubuntu seems to be a real turky on this where unbuntu isnt23:30
geniilee__: Ah, ok. so it's a graphical installer. If so then do the old routine of: alt-f2   then put: kdesu /the/pathname/thefilename23:30
ScorpKingintex: o ya and press <tab> after you typed Scorp in here :D23:30
lee__ah ok23:30
lee__wierd23:31
intexErmn... I'm not following here?23:31
ScorpKingintex: hehe. you wanted to paste the output. give me the link where you pasted it. ;)23:31
MementoMorihttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/ has only rc!23:31
intexOfcourse... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40997/23:32
geniiMementoMori: Yes, final is not due out for a while yet. At least hours23:32
intexDidn't think of that at first =/23:32
ScorpKingMementoMori: 23 hours and 28 minutes (by me) until the day is over. :P23:32
ScorpKingintex: lol. checking...23:32
stanScorpKing what do you mean by 23 hours ???23:33
stanyou mean another day23:33
stan??23:33
lee__no spaces in that right?23:33
MementoMorihere the date is over from 33 minutes23:33
geniiMementoMori: oct 18 release date does not mean 1 minute after midnight in your local timezone the iso becomes available immediately23:33
leexgxwe are not stuck in an paradox here are we23:33
leexgx:P23:34
MementoMorigenii: lol!23:34
Dr_willisThe zen of linux. :)23:34
ScorpKingstan: lol. the 18th will be 24 hours long and the release could happen in any of them. :P23:34
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Dr_willisOr it could even get delayed.. (doubtfull)23:34
leexgxnot next day yet we got 1hr34 mins ?23:34
MementoMorigenii: what's the right timezone?23:34
* genii hands Dr_willis a large coffee23:34
Dr_willisits 6:30 here.23:34
MementoMorihere 00.3423:34
Dr_willisand im gonna wait for the Gutsy Service Pack 1 - befor i install it.23:35
leexgxi just working off Pure GMT zone ?23:35
Dr_willis:)23:35
* Dr_willis is KIDDING...23:35
stanScorpKing lol :P i know but i think it will be on when it will be 18 for usa too23:35
leexgxits 23:34 here but we are +1hr23:35
ScorpKinghere 00:35 lol23:35
leexgxid asume it be GMT ? unless23:35
stanme too23:35
ScorpKingintex: uhm... not sure how to fix that.23:35
geniiMementoMori: Actually I'm not sure what timezone. i SUSPECT New Zealand since the security.ubuntu.com servers are there23:36
lee__well i did that and it asked fer my pw  and thatwas about it lol23:36
intexI was worrying you might say that...23:36
ScorpKingintex: have a problem removing a package - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40997/ anyone?23:36
intexHelp! Close to desperate here...23:36
MoNsTeR!ntfs23:37
ubotuntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse23:37
ScorpKinghehe. just wait a sec intex. someone will come to the rescue. :D23:37
leexgxid say its GMT time ? so its 22:36 at the time so we got 1hr 23 mins left untill next day ? then the clock starts untill we get it out23:37
geniilee__: Hmmm. Who owns that file?23:37
intexNice! I've searched a lot of forums, but no luck so far.23:37
ScorpKinghmmm... GMT should be 22:28 now if i'm correct...23:38
geniilee__: Please report result of: ls -l /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run23:38
ScorpKingor whatever. lol23:38
lee__it stopped dead befor it had a chance to execute23:38
* ScorpKing need for some coffee...23:39
geniilee__: Since it is a 64bit installer, please report reult of:     uname -m23:39
lee__when treid i it said access denied23:39
lee__eh how do i do that?23:39
administratorgenii: do you know if gutsy will have an auto program to install all hardware drivers?23:39
geniilee__: Is this some ntfs fileystem, or something not ext filesystem the installer is on?23:40
lee__its on a card, and ubuntu read it fine23:40
leexgxScorpKing: yep 1hr 20mins23:41
leexgxbut may have to wait untill i get up need sleep23:41
ScorpKingintex: don't go away. searching for a solution...23:41
intexI know, and I am grateful. Well, I'm on holidays... Got all the time in the world =)23:41
MoNsTeRhow do i veiw ntfs partion23:42
geniiadministrator: During install progress it will of course detect and set up more devices than Feisty did. There is also the restricted-manager which will give you option of using drivers from the manufacturer. As far as some stand-alone program which will autodetect and and setup your stuff l don't know. you could ask in #ubuntu+123:42
MoNsTeR!ntfs23:42
ubotuntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse23:42
MoNsTeR!ntfs-3g23:42
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions23:42
atlfalcons866!vfat23:42
ubotuntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse23:42
lee__eh just clicked on the  thing23:42
geniilee__: try then: sudo ls -l /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run23:42
lee__grr23:42
lee__well i can alaways reload23:43
geniialtho sudo for ls should never be needed, really23:43
atlfalcons866!defrag23:43
ubotudefragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.23:43
x128thx23:44
x128:)23:44
geniibah x128 needs to change his exit tag unless he wants to be mistaken for a troll23:45
ScorpKingintex: try sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get install -f sun-java6-jre23:46
lee__ok this sudo ls -l '/media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run'23:46
geniiAnyhow, I need to leave in about 15 minutes. Maybe i'll just sit here and sip coffee/watch scroll a bit ;)23:46
lee__gives this ?-rwxr-xr-x 1 lee root 40335704 2007-10-16 05:22 /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run    ?23:46
intexOkay. I've already tried dpkg --configure -a, but not with the other thing after.23:46
lee__what ever tha means23:47
lee__i think i am going to use ubuntu...its freindlier and does what u tell it to do23:47
lee__tahts the only anoying thing aobut Kubuntu23:48
lee__is the comand structure23:48
geniilee__: OK: sudo chown root:root /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run      then try to run it again by alt-f2 then: kdesu /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run23:48
MoNsTeR!fuse23:48
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems23:48
intexhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40998/23:48
ScorpKing!aptfix | intex23:49
ubotuintex: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »23:49
ScorpKingintex: try that as well. looking...23:49
geniilee__: Also i still need to know that command: uname -m            is reporting x86_6423:49
lee__sudo: chown/media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run: command not found..I know that this is a good file grrr23:49
MoNsTeRhow do i veiw my windows harddrive23:49
lee__its just flat finding excuses not to run it23:50
geniilee__: space after chown, then root:root    then another space then the pathname23:50
MoNsTeRhow do i veiw my windows harddrive23:50
lee__erggrr23:50
lee__ok23:50
ScorpKing!ntfs | MoNsTeR23:50
ubotuMoNsTeR: ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse23:50
geniiMoNsTeR: ubotu already gave you many links to read about that very subject23:51
purpleposeidonbug23:51
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MoNsTeRhow do i veiw my windows harddrive23:51
purpleposeidonsayclip23:51
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purpleposeidonHmmm, sorry. X_X23:51
ScorpKing!pastebin | purpleposeidon23:51
ubotupurpleposeidon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:51
lee__ok i am going to seriously mess it up to where I t will accept the comand23:51
lee__updating using the update23:51
* genii smacks purpleposeidon23:51
ScorpKinglol23:51
* purpleposeidon blames konversation23:52
meeperwell, finally23:52
lee__ok I had enough with it finding reason now Iam going to make it work23:52
MoNsTeRScorpKing: but they arent working23:52
meepernvdia drivers working, fullscreen dvd playback working23:53
atlfalcons866!fragmentation23:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fragmentation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:53
lee__it did itlast time , I used the update-manager -d command and it worked once23:53
ScorpKingMoNsTeR: try this - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php23:54
ScorpKingintex: any luck?23:55
geniilee__: I'm finding it difficult to assist you when you try to improvise and can't report to me something like result of uname -r  which will tell us if you even downloaded the right version of the driver for the architecture of your machine23:56
SteamMachineHi there.23:56
* ScorpKing pass genii stronger cofee...23:56
lee__sorry Iam just flusterd ok trying that last comand line structure23:56
lee__waht I have been dooing is cutting and pasting the folder23:57
geniiScorpKing: Thanks...any aspirin around to go with that? ;)23:57
lee__I mean file into the terminal23:57
SteamMachineI'm attempting to upload images from a digital camera - Kodak EasyShare C53023:57
* ScorpKing pass genii a box of aspirins...23:57
lee__I have a hard time when the comnad structres get to complicated23:57
intexScorp: tried the apt-get -f install, and now my adept manager is all okay. I even think Java is up and running! Would you do me one last favor, then? =)23:58
lee__so I have been cutting and pasting23:58
ScorpKinglee__: relax and take it one thing at a time. ;)23:58
ScorpKingintex: sure...23:58
feierfoxhey ho23:59
atlfalcons866will kde4 be in hardy heron23:59
geniilee__: Basically right now.. since we have made the file executable and it still won't run... an obvious thing to see is if your machine is using x86_64 which the driver is for.23:59
feierfoxneed an easy way to transcode AVI to DVD-Standard23:59
ScorpKingatlfalcons866: no23:59
atlfalcons866why23:59
SteamMachineOnce I connect the camera, linux recognizes the camera, but it only ever gets to "11%" in the Konquerer progress bar.23:59
intexWould you tell me what I just did. I'm new to Linux, and I have no idea what the -f install was or the &&, or any of it. Just a quick explanation. I'm a quick learner.23:59
ScorpKingatlfalcons866: it's not done yet.23:59
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lee__what I don't understand is if its the same kernal , as it is in ubuntu why does it do this?23:59

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