[15:10] <BluesKaj> yammeh, should have the option to use both
[15:11] <Yammeh> If I change my "current mixer" to usb audio codec, it still plays through my onboard sound
[15:12] <WaltzingAlong> !audio
[15:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:49] <CaBlGuY> ?
[15:49] <boeroe> help cannot install my hp psc 2410 photosmart all in one printer
[15:49] <boeroe> i use the wizard and choose psc 3400 driver but it gives me an error
[15:49] <fdoving> Trist_an: the little thing on your panel showing the different virtual desktops.
[15:49] <Trist_an> ok thanks fdoving
[15:49] <boeroe> i mean psc 2400 driver
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: hey... I got the 8.41 ATI driver installed on my gutsy AMD64 system, but LibGL is behaving properly...did you have to do anything special?
[15:52] <WaltzingAlong> nosrednaekim: yes, ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:52] <WaltzingAlong> or wait some hours to ask here, hehe
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> WaltzingAlong: it has nothing in particular to do with gutsy, the same thing happens in fiesty and BluesKaj has gotten it working
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> WaltzingAlong: unless you know the answer.
[15:54] <WaltzingAlong> yes but now you have gutsy and this channel is for feisty
[15:54] <WaltzingAlong> !ati | nosrednaekim
[15:54] <ubotu> nosrednaekim: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:54] <nosrednaekim> yeah I know.... but BluesKaj isn't over there (IDK if he is really even here)
[15:56] <Daisuke-Ido> WaltzingAlong: you're preaching to the choir
[15:56] <WaltzingAlong> thanks
[15:56] <WaltzingAlong> checks and balances
[15:56] <nosrednaekim> WaltzingAlong: I'm not a newb.. I know all about that...
[15:56] <WaltzingAlong> otherwise we get the usa
[15:56] <Daisuke-Ido> WHOA.
[15:56] <Daisuke-Ido> stop right there
[15:57] <Daisuke-Ido> that is not an appropriate topic, we don't do politics.
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> !ot
[15:57] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[15:57] <MoonWalker> hello all
[15:57] <MoonWalker> :P
[15:58] <MoonWalker> i got a question
[15:58] <MoonWalker> :D
[15:58] <Daisuke-Ido> ...okay?
[15:58] <Daisuke-Ido> nosrednaekim: did i just scare him off?
[15:58] <MoonWalker> i have Windows XP SP2 ... can i install ubuntu as a secundary operation sistem ?
[15:58] <Daisuke-Ido> MoonWalker: you most certainly can
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke-Ido: hope so...
[15:58] <MoonWalker> hmm
[15:59] <MoonWalker> it's like fedora ? to make Swap partition ... then / partition
[15:59] <nosrednaekim> MoonWalker: although as soon as you install it... it will be "superior" not secondary ;)
[15:59] <Daisuke-Ido> in fact, the live cd will automatically repartition your windows drive for you and take care of all the fun stuff
[15:59] <MoonWalker> and ther things
[15:59] <MoonWalker> :P
[15:59] <MoonWalker> oh
[15:59] <MoonWalker> that's a good info
[15:59] <jdong> dual-boot is also set up for you automatically
[15:59] <MoonWalker> so if i install ubuntu , windows will be deleted
[15:59] <MoonWalker> :D
[15:59] <Daisuke-Ido> MoonWalker: no
[15:59] <nosrednaekim> not if you don't want it to be
[15:59] <Daisuke-Ido> it will just resize the windows partition if that's what you want
[16:00] <jdong> MoonWalker: no, it will shrink Windows's space and make room for Ubuntu, and set up both to be on the boot menu
[16:00] <Daisuke-Ido> you will still have the option at boot to choose windows or kubuntu
[16:00] <MoonWalker> lol
[16:00] <jdong> MoonWalker: unless you specifically choose to delete Windows
[16:00] <MoonWalker> that's a wise choice for ubuntu
[16:00] <MoonWalker> :P
[16:00] <MoonWalker> clever
[16:00] <MoonWalker> thanks for answerd
[16:00] <MoonWalker> answers
[16:00] <MoonWalker> :)
[16:00] <Daisuke-Ido> although, a lot of people - after using ubuntu for a while - decide to ditch windows completely :)
[16:01] <MoonWalker> i heard
[16:01] <MoonWalker> :D
[16:01]  * nosrednaekim hasn't used windows for 4 years
[16:01] <MoonWalker> lol
[16:01] <MoonWalker> gg ...
[16:01] <MoonWalker> you can use .exe on ubuntu ?
[16:01] <MoonWalker> :-s
[16:01] <MoonWalker> without installing wine ?
[16:01] <Daisuke-Ido> err...  no.
[16:01] <stdin> !enter | MoonWalker
[16:01] <ubotu> MoonWalker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:02] <Daisuke-Ido> not without wine or some sort of virtualization
[16:02] <Daisuke-Ido> however, wine is much better than it was in the past, and virtualbox is quite nice as well
[16:03] <MoonWalker> well for example .. i want to play Halo on Ubuntu Desktop edition .... i just need to install wine and i can play ?
[16:03] <MoonWalker> or i need to configurate ... etc..
[16:03] <stdin> !games
[16:03] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[16:03] <MoonWalker> well thanks stdin .. that was a fast answer :P you're logging me ?
[16:04] <stdin> I have endless logs, and logs of logs, but that's another story
[16:04] <MoonWalker> :)) i've just joking :D
[16:05] <MoonWalker> well .. who wants a beer ? :D i'm thirsty
[16:05] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: are you around?
[16:06]  * genii syslogs -vvvv stdin
[16:06] <basse> ardchoille: heh still tweakin, decided to update whole kubuntu while i'm at it..
[16:06] <kaminix> When is Koffice 2 due to release? Same as KDE 4?
[16:07] <stdin> kaminix: #kde is a better place to ask
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> kaminix: later I think.
[16:07] <ardchoille> basse: :)
[16:07] <basse> ardchoille: problem with nvidia kernel driver is very odd. by default it wants to load up wrong driver.. if i unload what it loads on boot and then by hand load the correct one.. X starts just fine with glx and all :)
[16:07] <basse> these modern modprobes are hard to understand..
[16:08] <Walkboss> Can someone help me with an error I'm getting trying to mount partitions in the Gutsy LiveCD?
[16:08] <Daisuke-Ido> basse: did you install from the repos or from nvidia.com's provided driver?
[16:08] <TimS> How can I use a USB key instead of a password? I know its possible
[16:08] <ardchoille> basse: Any chance of uninstalling the wrong one so it can't load?
[16:09] <genii> !info koffice2 gutsy
[16:09] <ubotu> koffice2: KOffice2 applications for KDE 4 testing. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.93-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 146549 kB, installed size 419188 kB
[16:09] <nosrednaekim> sweet....i'm going to have to check that out!
[16:10] <Walkboss> Please?
[16:10] <Daisuke-Ido> what's the error?
[16:10] <MoonWalker> hmm ... can i install codecs ? on ubuntu ? like on windows .... ace mega codec pack .. or more ?
[16:10] <Walkboss> hal-storage-fixed-mout refused uid 999
[16:11] <Walkboss> mount*...
[16:11] <Daisuke-Ido> MoonWalker: 1) eww at codec packs.  2) most of your avi formats are supported out of the box
[16:11] <nosrednaekim> Walkboss: do it as root.
[16:11] <MoonWalker> ok i install ubuntu :D
[16:11] <nosrednaekim> Walkboss: "kdesudo konqueror"
[16:11] <MoonWalker> i'm convinced now lol
[16:11] <Daisuke-Ido> but you'll have to install support for dvd and mp3
[16:12] <Daisuke-Ido> almost the exact opposite :)
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> Walkboss: AND support for gutsy is in #ubuntu+1
[16:12] <RurouniJones> I have a laptop and external HDD both hooked up by a USB 2.0 connection but I am getting a transfer speed of just 1.1MB/s. Anyone else experienced this?
[16:12] <Walkboss> It gives me the exact same error
[16:12] <Leopard> REQuested: LIVE CD with KDE4 BETA2 please :)
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> ever tried installing an ogg codec in windows?
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> Leopard: ask in #kubuntu-devel.... its being thought about :)
[16:12] <Leopard> REQ Live cd with KDE4 beta 2 please for kde+ubuntu = kubuntu
[16:12] <genii> Leopard: Please ask in #kubuntu-devel
[16:13] <Leopard> i rather not ask devel i am a christian i accepted jesus as my savior
[16:14] <Daisuke-Ido> troll?
[16:14] <Leopard> puppeteer
[16:14] <stdin> Leopard: stop that
[16:14] <Lacrymology> excuse me, I've installed japanese language support, and anthy, and scim, and some fonts, and all that jazz, and aparently I can write japanese, but I can't read it for the hell of it
[16:14] <basse> ardchoille: no they come with kernel.. they are restricted package..
[16:14] <Walkboss> ...I'll guess I'll ask in ubuntu+1
[16:15] <Lacrymology> and by "I can't read it" I mean I see squares, not that I can't read japanese =)
[19:00] <Leopard> !help
[19:00] <Leopard> uboto
[19:00] <Leopard> isnt helping me
[19:00] <Leopard> :(
[19:00] <pillowpants> Leopard : ubotu is down we think
[19:01] <Leopard> is that possible?
[19:02] <ardchoille> Sure it is
[19:02] <pillowpants> Leopard : surely
[19:02] <pillowpants> has anyone here used tinyproxy?
[19:03] <xenol> i would like to ask if it has some advantages using 64bit version of kubuntu on 64 bit system? af if yes what r advantages
[19:04] <ardchoille> xenol: Less problems using the 32bit version
[19:04] <pillowpants> xenol : 64 bit advantage?
[19:04] <pillowpants> ardchoille : are you saying use 32 bit ver kde on a 64 bit system?
[19:05] <ardchoille> I'm saying that too many people come here with problems with the 64bit version and end up installing the 32bit version
[19:05] <pillowpants> ardchoille : hm, i see
[19:05] <pillowpants> ive never had any problems to speak of
[19:05] <xenol> what r the most common probs?
[19:05] <RurouniJones> One thing that comes to mind is browser plugins
[19:06] <ardchoille> I've been using Linux since 2001 and I'd use the 32bit version on a 64bit system.
[19:06] <pillowpants> I use 32 bit firefox for that issue
[19:06] <pillowpants> i would flat out refuse to install 32 bit kde on my 64 bit system
[19:07] <xenol> and performance of 32 bit on 64bit aint somehow weird
[19:07] <xenol> i mean if it aint way too slugish
[19:07] <xenol> or sth like that?
[19:08] <pillowpants> im just stubborn in that way
[19:09] <xenol> so what do u guys recommend me use 32bit or 64bit system?
[19:09] <garik1> 32bit :)
[19:09] <xenol> cause of less probs?
[19:09] <ardchoille> xenol: Depends on if you're willing to do all the work involved in getting everything n the 64bit version working. If not, use 32bit.
[19:09] <garik1> if you wanna problems install gentoo 64bit :)
[19:10] <ardchoille> lol
[19:10] <blendtux_> in wich repo is the program acroread
[19:10] <emilsedgh_> garik1: gentoo 64bit? gentoo is source based?
[19:10] <sea4ever> woohoo I got my webcam to work.
[19:10] <pillowpants> garik1 : dude, seriously
[19:10] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | blendtux_
[19:10] <XenThraL> my 2 cents, first install of a 64 bit OS, gutsy, no problems at all
[19:10] <mk6> hello, can you tell me wher is the Autostart file?
[19:10] <XenThraL> got flash and everything working just fine
[19:10] <xenol> ardchoille: do i have to compile every piece of software to 64bit?
[19:10] <mk6> I want to delete compiz-fuzion from autostart and I don't know where is this file
[19:10] <blendtux_> !medibuntu
[19:10] <ardchoille> xenol: No
[19:11] <ardchoille> blendtux_: you can find acroread at: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[19:11] <pillowpants> blendtux_ : ubotu is down
[19:11] <xenol> ardchoille: and?
[19:11] <ardchoille> xenol: install 64bit version and find out :)
[19:12] <xenol> ardchoille: i am looking foward to dl new gutsy
[19:12] <xenol> so many new staff :>
[19:13] <mk6> ardchoille: can you tell me something?
[19:13] <Lars_G> Anyhow my quick question is, I see 7.10 recognizes but doesn't mounts removable media by default. how can I change that?
[19:13] <Lars_G> Hi all
[19:13] <myghete1> stupid question... in CLI how do i echo back the full path that im currently in?
[19:13] <sehe> pwd
[19:13] <sehe> myghete1: ^^
[19:13] <myghete1> thanks
[19:13] <ardchoille> mk6: yes
[19:13] <sehe> !apropos | myghete1
[19:13] <Lars_G> mk6: I can tell you stuff too
[19:13] <ardchoille> I can tell you to look both ways before you cross the street.
[19:14] <mk6> i want to delete compiz-fusion form autostart... how?
[19:14] <Lars_G> mk6: for example. never fry bacon naked.
[19:14] <myghete1> thanks all!
[19:14] <ardchoille> mk6: uninstall it if you're not using it
[19:14] <sehe> Lars_G: depands on how much bacon you want to end up frying :D
[19:14] <pillowpants> have any of you ever used bastille??
[19:14] <pillowpants> ?*
[19:14] <mk6> ardchoille: i am using it
[19:14] <Lars_G> Anyhow any ideas on my question please?
[19:14] <LogicalDash> kdm is failing for no apparent reason and attempts to restart it tell me it " can't connect to host ' ' ".
[19:15] <slimjimflim> pillowpants, no but i've heard good things
[19:15] <pillowpants> slimjimflim : ah, i see
[19:15] <sehe> Lars_G: i don't know - I use pysdm for this kind of thing
[19:15] <slimjimflim> super-secure
[19:15] <pillowpants> slimjimflim : ill give it a go
[19:15] <Lars_G> sehe: pysdm?
[19:15] <pillowpants> as long as it doesnt effect torrents, ill be fine
[19:15] <Leopard> is ubotu back up pillowpants see i was chatting to him in IM: http://i23.tinypic.com/3320x0w.png
[19:15] <sehe> apt-get install and see for yourself
[19:15] <mk6> ardchoille: im using it now, what should i do?
[19:16] <ardchoille> mk6: compiz is a window manager, if it doesn't start with kde, then how do you expect to manage your windows?
[19:16] <Leopard> we love eachother i think :)
[19:16] <ardchoille> mk6: You want windows with no titlebar or way to manage them?
[19:16] <slimjimflim> anybody know how to reinstall a nic and/or set it's settings back to default?
[19:16] <sehe> slimjimflim: as in 'network adaptor'
[19:16] <sehe> slimjimflim: ?
[19:16] <slimjimflim> yes
[19:17] <sehe> slimjimflim: look at /etc/network/interfaces
[19:17] <Leopard> uboto is so cute :0
[19:17] <mk6> ardchoille: im not very good in english :)
[19:17] <Leopard> !help
[19:17] <Leopard> :(
[19:17] <pillowpants> Leopard : ah, i see
[19:17] <Leopard> : lol
[19:17] <Lars_G> sehe: pysdm?
[19:17] <mk6> I have few errors with compiz and I need to turn it off for some time
[19:17] <ardchoille> mk6: I'm not very good out of English
[19:17] <slimjimflim> oh, it's static, i wanted dhcp
[19:17] <sehe> Lars_G:  apt-get install and see for yourself
[19:17] <slimjimflim> sehe ^^
[19:18] <Lars_G> sehe: ok I'll check it out
[19:18] <slimjimflim> i think this'll get it goin
[19:18] <sehe> Lars_G: taht was a ^^^^^ myself :D
[19:18] <pillowpants> Leopard : what program was that
[19:18] <ardchoille> mk6: join #ubuntu-effects
[19:18] <Leopard> Miranda
[19:18] <Leopard> with a lot of mods
[19:18] <sehe> slimjimflim: cheers
[19:18] <Leopard> unfortunately it doesnt run on linux :(
[19:19] <garik1> how to install beryl?
[19:19] <pillowpants> Leopard : yeah, i checked
[19:19] <Lars_G> But what's the kubuntu/kde native way to change this back anyhow? anyone?
[19:19] <ardchoille> garik1:  join #ubuntu-effects
[19:19] <mk6> ardchoille: thanks :P
[19:19] <sehe> slimjimflim: you could look at knetworkmanage to change/view the config as well (as you are on kubuntu anyways)
[19:19] <pillowpants> Leopard : bitchx does a fine enough job for me
[19:19] <Lars_G> garik1: beryl is, afaik being rolled back into compiz
[19:19] <Leopard> :) i like to mod
[19:19] <ardchoille> Lars_G: That was already done
[19:19] <tharun> is there any way to get konqueror to list open tabs on the left side of the program instead of on the top?
[19:19] <ardchoille> Lars_G: That's why we now have compiz-fusion
[19:20] <slimjimflim> well i have to disconnect to try this, so if i come back it probably didn't work
[19:20] <slimjimflim> thx
[19:21] <mille> I have a question about burning dvd's in ubuntu
[19:21] <Lars_G> ardchoille: yup
[19:21] <Lars_G> ardchoille: Altough last time I checked there where some rough edges left
[19:21] <jthomas> mille, so ask them
[19:21] <ardchoille> Lars_G: no idea, never used it.
[19:22] <jthomas> although, mille, this is kubuntu (kde) so we may be at a loss of ideas...
[19:22] <Cenarius> :( i cant install for god sake :P
[19:22] <Cenarius> that driver for sound
[19:22] <mille> I can read DVD's just fine just can't burn them
[19:22] <Cenarius> :P
[19:22] <jthomas> mille: which app are you using?
[19:22] <LogicalDash> kdm failed to start. Where do I find its logs?
[19:22] <mille> so I don't think it is a driver issue
[19:22] <Lars_G> can't anyone give me a hand please?
[19:23] <ardchoille> Lars_G: With what?
[19:23] <mille> I have tried K3b, Brasero
[19:23] <mille> K3b says there is no drive
[19:23] <mille> Brasero errors out
[19:23] <jthomas> mille: are you sure the drive allows for burning?
[19:23] <mille> ?
[19:24] <mille> no
[19:24] <jthomas> mille is it a DVD+R or DVD-R?  or just a DVD-ROM drive?  and are you using +R or -R disks?
[19:24] <ardchoille> lol
[19:24] <jthomas> look at the front of the drive itself, mille.  Does it say DVD-ROM or something else?
[19:25] <mille> DVD-ROM/R/RW
[19:25] <kWiJiBo> moin!
[19:25] <mille> It worked in windows but i hate windows
[19:25] <Lars_G> ardchoille: 7.10 changed the default (kde?) behaviour for removable media to show-but-not-automount I want to change it back and wonder where the config item is
[19:25] <kWiJiBo> english or german?
[19:25] <jthomas> ok so it can burn (R/RW)
[19:25] <ardchoille> Lars_G: Gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[19:25] <kWiJiBo>  alright, i need some help
[19:25] <Lars_G> ardchoille: for a single day?
[19:26] <kWiJiBo> i tried to install java dk
[19:26] <mille> yes but only in windows
[19:26] <ardchoille> Lars_G: I wasn't aware of any time limits
[19:26] <Lars_G> ardchoille: and even worse, for a possibly KDE controlled item? I fear asking them there
[19:26] <Lars_G> ardchoille: I wasn't aware you're programmed to become an expert in one day.
[19:26] <jthomas> in K3B, under the menus, is there an option to set the permissions for the drive?  (I forget what it says in Feisty)
[19:27] <ardchoille> Lars_G: When in this channel, I have to comply with the channel rules. How hard is it to join another channel?
[19:27] <kWiJiBo> and then this error appeared:
[19:27] <kWiJiBo> he directory /tmp/istemp5882290202636
[19:27] <kWiJiBo>           does not contain enough space to extract temporary files.
[19:27] <mille> that could be it
[19:27] <kWiJiBo> what can i do about it?
[19:28] <mille> yes the permissions is veiw only
[19:28] <kWiJiBo> i tried to enter -is:help as the shell told me, but that didnt work
[19:28] <dhq> when will final version of gutsy be out
[19:28] <jthomas> kWiJiBo: i think you can change the KDE temporary directory to something else; find the Run... command (or hit [alt][f2]) and type in 'kcontrol' [enter] to see the KDE System Settings, and pojke around in there
[19:29] <jthomas> mille: is there a tool or something which, when you select it, will ask for your root password, and then fix the permissions?
[19:30]  * kWiJiBo is pojkeing around in the kde system settings now
[19:30] <ardchoille> jthomas: chmod?
[19:30] <jthomas> can anyone open their Feisty K3B and figure out what I am talking about?  I'm running Debian now and I don't see that in my options.
[19:30] <ardchoille> chown?
[19:30] <jthomas> ardchoille: it could be that, but k3b has its own script thing, makes it really easy
[19:30] <jthomas> aka no CLI
[19:31] <ardchoille> Your opinion. I feel that cli is faster and easier than any GUI.
[19:31] <jthomas> aw come on.  me too but i am not going to get into it.
[19:31] <pillowpants> jthomas : all i see is mount/unmount
[19:31] <jthomas> pillowpants: in k3b?  hmm.
[19:33] <pillowpants> jthomas : wait, settings > configure system permissions
[19:33] <jthomas> yes that'd be it, mille see that ^^ do you have that?
[19:34] <garik1> How to play .ape music?
[19:34] <jthomas> !ape
[19:34] <jthomas> i've never heard of that
[19:35] <mille> what window?
[19:35] <jthomas> mille, in k3b, settings menu, configure system permissions
[19:35] <mille> are you talking about konqueror
[19:35] <jthomas> main window
[19:35] <jthomas> k3b
[19:36] <mille> ok i am in config k3b
[19:36] <jthomas> NOT in config.  the same menu that got you to config, but a different option in that menu.  do you have it, or not?
[19:36] <mille> no
[19:37] <jthomas> ok
[19:37] <jthomas> then in config, under devices, does it list as a writer, or a read-only drive?
[19:37] <kWiJiBo> @jthomas, sorry but i couldnt find an option to change the temp dir
[19:37] <kWiJiBo> ive got kubuntu 7.04
[19:38] <mille> writer Drives
[19:38] <Cenarius> i got a question ..
[19:38] <mille> HL-DT-ST DVDRAM
[19:38] <Cenarius> how i can install a driver for sound ? i got wine installed .. i tried to install the driver few times .. and still doesn working
[19:39] <jthomas> kWiJiBo: not sure then... your / (root) partition must be near full if you don't have much space, or it is a large file to uncompress...  you could try to uncompress it at the command line
[19:39] <iss_student> In konversation where do I go to add a alias?
[19:39] <Lars_G> ardchoille: Ok let's do something, would you let me ask in a 7.04 safe way and then I can extract the data from there?
[19:39] <jthomas> Cenarius: your drivers sould work, you won't be successful with a Windows driver
[19:40] <Lars_G> Cenarius: What about ndiswrapper based wireless drivers?
[19:40] <jthomas> mille if it says its a writer, it should work I would think.
[19:40] <mille> ok well thank you for all your help
[19:40] <jthomas> mille: sorry i couldn't solve it.  i am no expert, by any means :)
[19:40] <iss_student> Also is it possible to connect to multiple wireless access points in Kubuntu. Not at the same time of course but say work and home and school?
[19:40] <ardchoille> Lars_G: It's not a matter of me "letting" you, I don't own the channel. But, I won't break the rules.
[19:41] <mille> I understand.
[19:41] <mille> thanks
[19:41] <Lars_G> Ok
[19:42] <Lars_G> Hey when I insert a removable media in feisty, under kde. it auto mounts it (using pmount I beleive), I'd like for it not to be automounted. Any ideas how to change that?
[19:44] <jthomas> Lars_G: you have to somehow get to the Configure screen of the KDE control module; maybe by inserting a CD or DVD.  Then hit [configure] and you can change what KDE does for all media
[19:44] <folkert> Hi @ all :-) i love your Linux ;)
[19:44] <Lars_G> jthomas: thanks a lot.
[19:45] <jthomas> Lars_G: no prob.  Figure it out?
[19:45] <Riddell> folkert: great
[19:45] <Cenariu1> hmm
[19:45] <Lars_G> jthomas: btw wouldn't that be accessible in some category on kcontrol? by running kcontrol by hand?
[19:45] <jthomas> not sure
[19:45] <Cenariu1> i like it too .. itś starts to look nice
[19:45] <ardchoille> Lars_G: Open kcontrol
[19:46] <ardchoille> Lars_G: Peripherals > Storage Media
[19:46] <Cenariu1> but anyway ... i could not install any drivers for my sound device :P and i got installed wine package
[19:46] <garik1> How to synchronize some data every hour between pc and notebook?
[19:46] <kWiJiBo> now i simply tried to change the temp folder with "-is:tempdir /home/<usrname> -> but error "command not found"
[19:46] <ardchoille> garik1: use rsync in a cronjob
[19:46] <kWiJiBo> im a absolute linux newbie btw
[19:47] <jthomas> Cenariu1: Linux drivers are, generally, build in.  And they certainly don't come on a CD from the vendor! :(
[19:48] <ardchoille> Cenariu1: The stuff that install via wine is installed in your home directory, not the system. You're not going to be able to successfully install drivers like that.
[19:49] <Ben_Cs> hello
[19:49] <kWiJiBo> now i simply tried to change the temp folder with "-is:tempdir /home/<usrname> -> but then error "command not found" appears
[19:50] <ardchoille> kWiJiBo: which comand are you using?
[19:50] <kWiJiBo> -is:tempdir
[19:50] <ardchoille> kWiJiBo: That's not a valid command. Are you trying to rename the folder?
[19:50] <Ben_Cs> i installed ssh package which installed openssh-client and openssh-server. but when i do: ssh localhost   ,the cursor moves to next blank line and just prints what i type but does nothing. please help
[19:51] <kWiJiBo> yes
[19:51] <Ben_Cs> i don't get even a login request
[19:51] <fixio> ciao
[19:51] <ardchoille> kWiJiBo: mv 'old_name' 'new_name'  (without quotes)
[19:51] <kWiJiBo> i tried to install javadk, then an error appears that idont have enoigh freespace in the tempdir
[19:52] <kWiJiBo> so it told me, type -is:tempdir to change the temp folder
[19:53] <Cenariu1> ubuntu really rocks :d
[19:54] <sehe> ardchoille: or perhaps with quotes depending on the filenames and the shell in use
[19:54] <flo> I want to install kubutu on a laptop that currently runs suse. The Problem: can't boot from cdrom/usb andno floppy. Any way to start the kubuntu install from the running suse system ?
[19:56] <kreib> bios is locked?
[19:56] <jthomas> flo, you cannot boot from the disk?  hmmm...
[19:57] <Ben_Cs> no one here knows about ssh?!
[19:57] <jthomas> Ben_Cs: sure whats up?
[19:57] <kreib> what about it?
[19:57] <Ben_Cs> jthomas: i installed ssh package. when i CLI: ssh localhost, i don't get login request, as if nothing happens
[19:58] <jthomas> Ben_Cs: is your sshd running, to answer the ssh request?
[19:58] <Ben_Cs> jthomas: how do i check?
[19:58] <jthomas> run at a cli: "ps -auwx |grep sshd"
[19:59] <jthomas> does it retunr a line about /usr/sbin/sshd ?
[19:59] <Ben_Cs> jthomas: yes
[19:59] <jthomas> hmmm
[19:59] <Ben_Cs> jthomas: it's a line for root
[19:59] <jthomas> sure, root will run the service
[19:59] <jthomas> thats normal
[20:00] <Ben_Cs> jthomas: so y do i get a blank line then?
[20:00] <Ben_Cs> jthomas: should i try reinstall?
[20:01] <jthomas> Ben_Cs: i wouldn't think so
[20:01] <jthomas> Ben_Cs: try: "sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart" [enter] then try it
[20:01] <jthomas> Ben_Cs: have you set up a firewall on that perhaps?
[20:02] <X314Z159> hey.. if I plugin another harddrive, how do I find it? (its fat32)
[20:02] <jthomas> Ben_Cs: I am running Debian but it worked for me
[20:02] <Ben_Cs> jthomas: sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[20:03] <jthomas> ??
[20:03] <Ben_Cs> jthomas: don't think i have a firewall
[20:03] <flo> jthomas: any ideas ?
[20:03] <jthomas> try it again just as /etc/init.d/ssh i guess
[20:04] <Ben_Cs> jthomas: i get OK but still same result on connecting
[20:04] <CPrompt^> flo : why can't you boot from cd?
[20:05] <jthomas> flo, about the laptop?  not really... maybe a network install? (painful)  or take the drive out, put it into another system, do the basic install there, and then do the first boot on the main laptop?
[20:06] <jthomas> flo, can you boot from USB, like an external CD?
[20:07] <jthomas> Ben_Cs: try 'ssh 127.0.0.1' instead of 'ssh localhost' ?
[20:07] <CPrompt^> Ben_C's : why are you trying to ssh into the machine you are on?
[20:07] <ygi> Hall zusammen :)
[20:08] <Leopard> CPrompt^ : i know a use for doing that
[20:08]  * sea4ever will be right back!
[20:08] <ygi> Kann mir wer verraten, wo ich ne bruachbare Hilfe finde, wenn Kubuntu beim Start immer die Soundkarten (2) vertauscht ? ?
[20:08] <CPrompt^> Leopard : good...I really see no reason for that but...OK
[20:09] <Leopard> i ssh into my own vmware to run apps linux apps through X11 forwarding with xming and putty
[20:09] <Leopard> :)
[20:09] <Leopard> i dunno why
[20:09] <genii> !de | ygi
[20:09] <ubotu> ygi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:09] <Leopard> i just wanted to try it
[20:09] <Leopard> hehe
[20:09] <slimjimflim> it seems like i installed avahi as a dependency while apt-getting postfix.  avahi, however, has taken over my ip configuration.  how can i get control back?
[20:09] <atlfalcons866> !kde4
[20:09] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[20:09] <ygi> Thanks ubotu
[20:10] <atlfalcons866> will kde4 be in hardy?
[20:11] <Ben_Cs> CPrompt^: just to test that ssh works
[20:11] <Leopard> Ben_Cs : the journey is the destination
[20:11] <Leopard> :)
[20:11] <Leopard> deep huh :0
[20:12] <Leopard> (C++)^2 is deep
[20:12] <Leopard> :)
[20:12] <Ben_Cs> Leopard: not funny. i need a working ssh server
[20:13] <Leopard> you said just testing
[20:13] <Leopard> hence just
[20:13] <Leopard> need is dependency
[20:13] <ardchoille> sehe: Good point
[20:13] <Doctor_Nick> will gutsy be released AT midnight or after
[20:14] <Leopard> Doctor_Nick : that depends on the timezone you are in dont forget its a global product
[20:14] <sehe> ardchoille: hehe ages ago but still - cheers
[20:14] <Doctor_Nick> ok, midnight at gmt or midnight at est or what :P
[20:14] <flo> jthomas: no can't boot from anything but hdd (and since it is 2.5" i cant put it into another pc - now)
[20:14] <Leopard> Doctor_Nick : it matters
[20:15] <Doctor_Nick> thats what im asking
[20:15] <flo> CPrompt^: It's an old notebook that doesn't support booting from anything but hdd
[20:15] <Leopard> timezone is the crux for your question
[20:15] <genii> What timezone is New Zealand in??
[20:15] <Leopard> gmt+10' ish
[20:15] <sehe> Doctor_Nick: if in doubt - just assume 'way' after midnight. You'll be safe
[20:15] <Leopard> my best guess
[20:16] <Leopard> similar to australia i reckon
[20:16] <genii> Hmm. Since main ubuntu security site is in NZ
[20:17] <Karti> Hi all, just a quick question - does anyone know is the new Kubuntu 64Bit will have flash in Konqueror?
[20:18] <emilsedgh> Karti: Flash has no 64bit version (afaik), you could try Gnash...
[20:18] <Ashborn> hi all
[20:18] <Leopard> i love you emilsedgh :)
[20:19] <Leopard> emilsedgh : my parents are flowerpowers
[20:19] <Leopard> :)
[20:19] <emilsedgh> Leopard: :P thanks!
[20:19] <Karti> emilsedgh: Thanks, tried that but as with most beginners when it didnt work I went back to 32 bit Firefox ;)
[20:19] <Leopard> haha
[20:19] <Leopard> emilsedgh : i said the samething to a windows moderator on a daily base he went so mad that he banned for 12 days ;/
[20:19] <emilsedgh> Karti: which version you tried? 0.8.1 is much better than 0.8
[20:19] <Loquelvi2> hi
[20:20] <emilsedgh> so he was a real mad guy Leopard
[20:20] <Karti> emilsedgh: It was about 6 weeks ago, and I just did the one from the normal repository
[20:20] <Leopard> emilsedgh : yep he uses windows :o
[20:20] <tom__> f
[20:20] <emilsedgh> Leopard: windows? 100% mad..needs hospital :P
[20:21] <Leopard> yeah well i use windows for games
[20:21] <Leopard> not for work
[20:21] <Leopard> he uses it for work as a sysadmin
[20:23] <Leopard> its funny to say you love someone over IRC and see how people react they usually do react that says a lot
[20:23] <Leopard> some take it as harrasment
[20:23] <Leopard> some take it as a joke
[20:23] <Leopard> but they always respond :P
[20:24] <Leopard> emilsedgh : is ubotu fixed yet i was playing with him
[20:24] <xenol> plz anyone can tell me how can i enable konsole to start with the theme i want and not that classic black?
[20:24] <Leopard> uboto
[20:24] <Leopard> !help
[20:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:24] <Leopard> cool :)
[20:24] <emilsedgh> yaaa, his alive
[20:24] <administrator> i have a wifi card netgear
[20:24] <jthomas> what is a good kicker applet or systray app for network load monitoring?
[20:24] <administrator> how can i get it to work?
[20:24] <Leopard> see emilsedgh me talking to ubotu: http://i23.tinypic.com/3320x0w.png
[20:25] <administrator> how can i get my wifi netgear card to work?
[20:25] <administrator> latest version of kubuntu
[20:26] <jthomas> latest being 7.04?  or tomoorows release of 7.10?
[20:26] <emilsedgh> !wifi | administrator
[20:26] <ubotu> administrator: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:26] <emilsedgh> Leopard: is this Kopete?! :D
[20:27] <Leopard> no :( i wish it was
[20:27] <Leopard> i am on WIndows its a miranda mod
[20:27] <Ben_Cs> y oh y won't the ssh work?!!!!!!!!!!
[20:27] <Leopard> can you do that with Kopete?
[20:27] <Leopard> gtk doesnt allow for shiny eyecandy
[20:27] <MoNsTeR> hello?
[20:28] <emilsedgh> Leopard: not 100%, but most of it could be done
[20:28] <Leopard> oh ok i see
[20:28] <administrator> how you get it so that you double click to open stuff up and not single click?
[20:28]  * GoOcHiE is back
[20:28] <MoNsTeR> i need help guys how do i install restricted driver for my graphics card?
[20:28] <Leopard> i have to check out Kopete again havent played with it for a while
[20:28] <Leopard> on kubuntu i prefer gaim/pidgin
[20:29] <MoNsTeR> i need help guys how do i install restricted driver for my graphics card?
[20:29] <Leopard> only werd that all these open source chat apps are so focused on commercial protocols
[20:30] <francescosoft___> hello
[20:31] <francescosoft___> can somebody help me pls.
[20:31] <francescosoft___> dvb didn't work for me with kaffeine on ubuntu
[20:32] <MoNsTeR> omg i never get help when i come here
[20:32] <administrator> i keep getting this error when installing the drivers
[20:32] <MoNsTeR> its like you ignore me
[20:32] <administrator> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.38-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[20:32] <iss_student> What is the web address for bugs in ubuntu again?
[20:32] <Minataku> !bugs
[20:33] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[20:33] <Minataku> I figured it was something simple like that, but I wasn't sure
[20:33] <administrator> i cant install the drivers
[20:33] <administrator> http://pastebin.com/m21437efb
[20:33] <administrator> this is the error i keep getting please someone help me
[20:34] <Dr_willis> administrator,  i think for ndiswrappers you need the proper .inf file from the windows drivers
[20:35] <administrator> i did download them
[20:35] <administrator> the two files
[20:35] <administrator> from the website
[20:35] <Dr_willis> then you need to put them in the proper place , or some how expilictly tell them what ones to use i guess. I dont use ndiswarppera  so cant help more then thatn
[20:35] <Dr_willis> try giving the FULL path to the .inf file or check the
[20:36] <Dr_willis>  /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 174.   script and see where its looking for them at.
[20:38] <blubb> is it a big difference if I do the update to new kubuntu now instead of tomorrow?
[20:39] <pro__> anyway to cut down on kubuntu install?
[20:40] <administrator> ok here is the new issue
[20:40] <administrator> bash: cd: /home/administrator/Info/WinXP_2K: No such file or directory
[20:40] <administrator> administrator@Server:~$ audo ndiswrapper -i mrv8335.inf
[20:40] <administrator> bash: audo: command not found
[20:40] <administrator> administrator@Server:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i mrv8335.inf
[20:40] <administrator> driver mrv8335 is already installed
[20:40] <administrator> administrator@Server:~$ ndiswrapper -l
[20:40] <administrator> mrv8335 : invalid driver!
[20:40] <administrator> administrator@Server:~$
[20:40] <administrator> administrator@Server:~$
[20:40] <administrator> why is it acting up
[20:40] <administrator> http://pastebin.com/m4640b4fe
[20:40] <administrator> it says its installed but then says invalid driver
[20:40] <genii> !paste
[20:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:41] <administrator> i got that pastebin
[20:41] <administrator> same thing
[20:41] <administrator> what i do?
[20:41] <administrator> plase help
[20:42] <atlfalcons866> !ops
[20:42] <atlfalcons866> !op
[20:42] <administrator> can someone please help me?
[20:42] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[20:42] <gnomefreak> ?
[20:42] <gnomefreak> administrator: what?
[20:42] <administrator> im having issues with a driver
[20:42] <blubb> is it a big difference if I do the update to new kubuntu now instead of tomorrow?
[20:43] <administrator> it says that it is installed
[20:43] <gnomefreak> atlfalcons866: what?
[20:43] <administrator> but it says that its invalid driver
[20:43] <gnomefreak> administrator: use pastebin
[20:43] <administrator> http://pastebin.com/m4640b4fe
[20:43] <administrator> i did
[20:43] <blendtux_> my god kubuntu gutsy is so so so so fast
[20:43] <gnomefreak> Mez: i was in the middle of talking to him,
[20:43] <Mez> !repeat | administrator
[20:43] <ubotu> administrator: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:44] <administrator> i did
[20:44] <catter> catter hi
[20:45] <CPrompt^> administrator : after you downloaded the files, did you compile them?
[20:45] <administrator> i right clicked them and selected the install option
[20:45] <atlfalcons866> !lts
[20:45] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[20:45] <X314Z159> how do I find my HD(FAT32) that i just connected.. can I find it?
[20:45] <CPrompt^> administrator : so it was a .deb file?
[20:45] <artur_> hallo, kann mir jemand mit meinem wlan d-link usb-stick weiterhelfen?
[20:45] <administrator> yeah
[20:45] <administrator> ndiswrapper-common_1.38-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[20:45] <administrator> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.38-1ubuntu1_i386.d
[20:46] <CPrompt^> administrator : when it went through the install, did it say that it failed because of dependencies that were unmet?
[20:46] <administrator> no
[20:46] <administrator> it said "unarchiving deb file
[20:46] <administrator> "setting up"
[20:46] <administrator> "press enter to exit"
[20:46] <administrator> thats all
[20:47] <clau> hello. i got a network problem after upgrade from edgy to feisty: i get an ip via dhcp, but nothing works. /etc/resolv.conf looks ok also
[20:47] <CPrompt^> administrator : see if you can do "whereis ndiswrapper" from terminal
[20:47] <clau> any ideas anyone?
[20:47] <nathan> how can I install webmin on kubuntu?
[20:48] <nathan> I have the deb package
[20:48] <CPrompt^> administrator : if "whereis" command doesn't show anything, try "which ndiswrapper" and see if it comes back with anything.  Might have to use sudo.
[20:48] <dectus> hei everyone
[20:48] <dectus> what's the best easy editor for c++ in kubuntu ?
[20:48] <CPrompt^> nathan : right click on it and choose "Install package" under Kubuntu package manager
[20:48] <administrator> ok
[20:48] <fdoving>  dectus kdevelop maybe?
[20:48] <administrator> i did it
[20:48] <administrator> now what?
[20:48] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i install and enable the restricted driver for my graphics card?
[20:48] <CPrompt^> dectus : Kate for me.  has terminal so you can run it ;)
[20:49] <administrator> those are
[20:49] <administrator> administrator@Server:~$ whereis ndiswrapper
[20:49] <administrator> ndiswrapper: /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper /etc/ndiswrapper /usr/share/man/man8/ndiswrapper.8.gz
[20:49] <dectus> thx :)
[20:49] <dectus> and how to install g++ ?
[20:49] <administrator> http://pastebin.com/m7b652f7d
[20:49] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i install and enable the restricted driver for my graphics card?
[20:50] <genii> administrator: Maybe check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/mrv8k    I think you need to blacklist another driver first.
[20:50] <administrator> how i blacklist?
[20:50] <nathan> CPrompt^: it gave me errors saying dependencies were'nt met
[20:50] <genii> administrator: It tells you on the page
[20:50] <administrator> yeah i have it
[20:51] <clau> so, anyone? :)
[20:51] <administrator> i have mrv8k
[20:51] <CPrompt^> nathan : make not of what the dependecies are, and install them.  See if you can install them via adept first.  If not, have to find the packages and install them that way.
[20:51] <CPrompt^> nathan : that was supposed to be "make note of the dependecies" ;)
[20:52] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i install and enable the restricted driver for my graphics card?
[20:52] <administrator> genii if i got it so i should continue to disable the driver?
[20:52] <CPrompt^> administrator : have you rebooted and chose the new kernel.  If I'm not mistaking, it rebuilds the kernel and you have to reboot
[20:53] <administrator> what you mean ?
[20:53] <dectus> plz: how to install g++ ?
[20:54] <CPrompt^> dectus : there's quite a bit that you need to install to compile c++ programs.  I think there's kde-devel packages and some others.  Need, autoconfig, automake, and a couple others.  Away from my home computer ATM
[20:54] <truth> Has anyone has any problems upgrading to 7.10 ?
[20:54] <nathan> CPrompt^: thanks that worked!
[20:55] <CPrompt^> nathan : glad I helped someone  LOL
[20:55] <dectus> thanks
[20:55] <bwayne> 40960 MB = 40 GB or have I gone stupid yet again?
[20:55] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i install and enable the restricted driver for my graphics card?
[20:55] <CPrompt^> dectus : build-essentials is something you need as well
[20:56] <CPrompt^> MoNsTeR : what kind of card?
[20:56] <administrator> http://pastebin.com/m6318f263
[20:56] <dromer> hey all, I'm having trouble getting a 2nd hd to work on my pIII 800mhz, I have Kubuntu Feisty installed on the primary hd (set as master), which alone boots normally, the new hd is on the same IDE set as slave, but when it's hooked-on the boot-process get's interupted and I get: BusyBox  /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off   (initramfs)_   also, tty1 shows some output which ends with 'Target Filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init/'
[20:56] <administrator> why is this happening? http://pastebin.com/m6318f263
[20:56] <CPrompt^> administrator : have you rebooted?
[20:56] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i install and enable the restricted driver for my graphics card?
[20:56] <administrator> no one sec
[20:56] <administrator> will that actually help?
[20:56] <MoNsTeR> !resticted
[20:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resticted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:57] <MoNsTeR> !restricted drivers
[20:57] <CPrompt^> MoNsTeR : i asked...what kind of card is it???
[20:57] <genii> administrator: sorry for lag, work called me away. I would recommend to follow the instructions on that site i gave you, and see if it helps. If not, then please report back here once more.
[20:57] <administrator> i did
[20:57] <administrator> cprompt says i need reboot
[20:57] <bwayne> MoNsTeR: open the Control Center and search for "restricted".
[20:57] <administrator> will do that and see what happens
[20:57] <MoNsTeR> CPrompt^: its ati but i didnt see that you asked sorry
[20:58] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: where?
[20:58] <bwayne> MoNsTeR: it's under System Administration in the Control Center.
[20:58] <CPrompt^> MoNsTeR : could have been me :)  Just want to let you know :)  Try Envy.  It will install the drivers and configure x.org for you :)  What ATI card is it?
[20:58] <MoNsTeR> 9550
[20:58] <MoNsTeR> CPrompt^: its a ati 9550
[20:58] <dectus> thanks, build-essential seems to work :)
[20:59] <clau> so, anyone? (sorry for repeatedly asking, but I had some lag and maybe i missed out smtg)
[20:59] <blubb> how can I get language stuff for kde? like correction in kmail? aspell seems to be installed
[20:59] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: i dont see system administration
[20:59] <emilsedgh> blubb: go to adept manager and find suitable aspell dictionary (for example aspell-en_
[21:00] <administrator> ok lets see
[21:00] <CPrompt^> MoNsTeR : check this page out. http://albertomilone.com/  That's the program that will install the drivers and configure x.org for you :)
[21:00] <administrator> no it didnt work
[21:00] <administrator> genii
[21:00] <MoNsTeR> CPrompt^: but im not sure that i want that i rather use what kubuntu has already
[21:00] <bwayne> MoNsTeR:  it's in the KDE Control Center.
[21:01] <CPrompt^> MoNsTeR : thought your question was "how to install restricted drivers".
[21:01] <CPrompt^> MoNsTeR : follow bwayne
[21:01] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: i know that but under advanced it has system administration but no system administration
[21:02] <administrator> what do i do now it refuses to work?
[21:02] <gorf_> hi, i installed kubuntu , i got geforce fx5200 ( 2output) and one via/sg3 unichrome. i connected 2 monitors out of fx5200.when i try to enable 2nd monitor, system ask for xserver to restart, it kinda does to the grey screen with moving mouse :how to get out?).anybody could help start 2nd monitor?
[21:02] <MoNsTeR> i have disk @ filesystems
[21:02] <MoNsTeR> &
[21:02] <MoNsTeR> system services
[21:02] <MoNsTeR> login manager
[21:02] <MoNsTeR> window applications
[21:02] <bwayne> MoNsTeR: ah.  what version Kubuntu are you using?
[21:03] <gorf_> 7.1gibbons
[21:04] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: feisty fawn?
[21:04] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: or what number
[21:04] <gorf_> sorry
[21:04] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: im going to install kubuntu first i just wanted to know how to enable it and i found out how
[21:05] <bwayne> MoNsTeR: with gutsy gibbon, the Restricted Drivers Manager should have notified you on first boot that you could be using a proprietary driver.  If that's not working, then something may be wrong with your installation.
[21:05] <bwayne> MoNsTeR: don't worry.  Let Gutsy lead the way.
[21:05] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: i dont have gutsy gibbon
[21:05] <bwayne> MoNsTeR: why not?  :-)
[21:05] <iss_student> I'm getting a error when I try to access a usb hard drive after it is plugged in and recognized
[21:06] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: its not out yet
[21:06] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: not stable
[21:06] <bwayne> MoNsTeR: don't act crazy.
[21:06] <bwayne> MoNsTeR: this is the most stable Ubuntu I've used so far.
[21:06] <bwayne> iss_student: what's the error?
[21:06] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: im sure its stable but its really bloated and slow
[21:07] <CPrompt^> MoNsTeR : gutsy comes out tomorrow.  it'll be stable ;)
[21:07] <iss_student> The error is hal-storeage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000. Does anybody know how to fix this
[21:07] <bwayne> MoNsTeR: sure, if you're on crack.
[21:07] <administrator> CPrompt^ the reboot didnt help
[21:07] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: lol
[21:07] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: how long are you going to be here
[21:07] <bwayne> MoNsTeR:  gutsy boots much faster than feisty ever did here.
[21:07] <CPrompt^> administrator : not sure then.  Not an expert on wifi.  It doesn't seem that the install of the drivers took correctly though
[21:07] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: so you can take me through the update process
[21:08] <bwayne> it's weird, Kubuntu doesn't even feel like Ubuntu.
[21:08] <iss_student> gutsy works great although there are still a few problems
[21:08] <Angelus> hi
[21:08] <MoNsTeR> iss_student: what problems?
[21:08] <bwayne> MoNsTeR: nope.  I have to leave in a moment to tutor pre-Calculus.
[21:08] <administrator> crap
[21:08] <administrator> isnt there an auto program
[21:08] <MoNsTeR> bwayne: ok
[21:08] <Angelus> i setted an LVM , and only LILO was avaiable to install . why? :S
[21:08] <administrator> that can detect all your hardware and automatically set it up for you?
[21:08] <administrator> will that be in gutsy?
[21:09] <bwayne> could someone just make me feel better and say "yes, 40960MB is equal to 40 GB"?
[21:09] <administrator> cprompt^: how i dump all the drivers that i recently installed
[21:09] <iss_student> Ok bwayne 40960 is 40 GB
[21:09] <administrator> including the .deb files?
[21:09] <bwayne> iss_student: thank you!
[21:10] <bwayne> stinking cfdisk!
[21:10] <CPrompt^> bwayne : yes...that's right.  Feel better :p
[21:10] <administrator> cPrompty^ you know how to uninstall the drivers?
[21:10] <administrator> can you tell me that url again?
[21:10] <CPrompt^> administrator : not sure
[21:10] <MoNsTeR> iss_student: dude thats why im not upgrading til its stable cause i have a usb that i use every day and i use kopete and super karamba alot too
[21:11] <administrator> can you give me that url again CPrompt^?
[21:11] <CPrompt^> administrator : URL to what?
[21:11] <bwayne> exit
[21:11] <genii> back
[21:11] <CPrompt^> administrator : I think that was genii there that gave you the URL
[21:11] <administrator> oh yeah
[21:11] <administrator> genii: you about?
[21:11] <genii> administrator: Yes, just returned :)
[21:12] <genii> administrator: this is it i think https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/mrv8k
[21:13] <administrator> ok
[21:13] <administrator> thanks genii
[21:13] <administrator> genii: i get this issue with the scan http://pastebin.com/m3137e7f8
[21:14] <genii> administrator: OK, reading
[21:14] <MoNsTeR> iss_student: i dont have flashdrives
[21:15] <genii> administrator: About that i don't have any immediate ideas
[21:15] <MoNsTeR> iss_student: it wont let me pvt message you back
[21:15] <administrator> :(
[21:15] <Angelus> why didn't kubuntu tell me to install grub ? :S
[21:15] <administrator> ok
[21:15] <Angelus> i setted up an LVM partition , maybe thats why?
[21:15] <MoNsTeR> Angelus: it does automatically
[21:15] <administrator> genii: what i do now since i uninstalled and reinstalled taht driver
[21:15] <administrator> mrv8k that is
[21:15] <Angelus> MoNsTeR: not this time, it installed lilo, is it because i used an LVM partition?
[21:16] <genii> administrator: Did you do the blacklisting part of the instructions?
[21:16] <MoNsTeR> Angelus: lilo isnt that bad
[21:16] <administrator> yes
[21:16] <genii> administrator: OK. Please tell me if command:  lsmod |grep mrv8335     shows anything
[21:16] <Angelus> i know that it aint bad MoNsTeR  just wantedto know the reason , im a curious boy :p
[21:17] <iss_student> What program do I run to set permissions on a NTFS device
[21:17] <genii> administrator: If more than 3 lines please use pastebin website, otherwise here is OK
[21:17] <administrator> ok one sec
[21:18] <administrator> genii: no it does not
[21:18] <Angelus> so MoNsTeR  the reason why it installed lilo is because i used LVM ?
[21:18] <MoNsTeR> iss_student: its called ntfs navigation tool i think
[21:18] <Dr_willis> also its best to paste stuff thats usefull. :) not just the generic error messages
[21:18] <MoNsTeR> Angelus: im sure thats the reason ive never used lvm install
[21:18] <administrator> genii: is it good or bad if it doesnt show anything?
[21:18] <genii> administrator: OK. try then:     sudo modprobe mrv8335
[21:18] <administrator> ok
[21:18] <Angelus> MoNsTeR:  i heard for grub to be supported on LVM, there must be a seperate boot partition
[21:19] <genii> administrator: Then again with the    lsmod|grep mrv8335
[21:19] <Dr_willis> I think Angelus  is right.
[21:19] <administrator> FATAL: Module mrv8335 not found.
[21:19]  * GoOcHiE is back
[21:19] <Dr_willis> a normal /boot partition, then the rest can be on the lvm
[21:19] <Dr_willis> i think. :)
[21:19] <administrator> genii:  FATAL: Module mrv8335 not found.
[21:19] <administrator> i get that error
[21:19]  * ScorpKing waves...
[21:19] <administrator> genii: and the other command still shows nothing
[21:19] <MoNsTeR> Angelus: do you have 2 harddrives
[21:20] <Angelus> Dr_willis: in that case LVM would be useless for me cause i would still have more then one linux partition on my hard driver :p
[21:20] <Angelus> MoNsTeR:  no,only one
[21:20] <Dr_willis> I dont use lvm. :) so what do i know.. heh..
[21:20] <Dr_willis> just what i read/hear in here.
[21:20] <Angelus> i find it cool
[21:20] <Angelus> its the first time trying it
[21:21] <genii> administrator: Yes, i see. I forget if ndiswrapper makes a regular driver which can be loaded with modprobe. Perhaps then try instead the way from previously, : sudo ndiswrapper -i mrv8335.inf      (when in the dir to which you unzipped that file)
[21:21] <MoNsTeR> Angelus: whats different on lvm
[21:22] <administrator> genii: should i blacklist before installation?
[21:22] <Angelus> MoNsTeR: just to have linux swap and linux partition in one partition , (or more if you use more,) and i also heard its more easy to resize/move partitions on it
[21:22] <genii> administrator: If you did this previously the blacklisted driver should still be blacklisted. so no
[21:24] <administrator> genii: http://pastebin.com/m3f3f1fe2
[21:24] <administrator> i get this error
[21:25] <genii> administrator: Reading
[21:26] <genii> administrator: After that last line is nothing... did it just come back to command prompt?
[21:26] <administrator> yes
[21:28] <administrator> genii: yes
[21:28] <genii> administrator: OK. Perhaps try then this: sudo ndiswrapper -e mrv8335 ; sudo ndiswrapper -i mrv8335.inf ; sudo ndiswrapper -l
[21:29] <LiL-joN> does anybody know how to install restricted driver?
[21:29] <Dr_willis> !find restricted-manager
[21:29] <ubotu> Found: restricted-manager
[21:29] <genii> administrator: If it successfully unloads the old one, reloads the new one then list it is in there, do:   sudo ndiswrapper -m
[21:29] <Dr_willis> !info  restricted-manager
[21:29] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[21:29] <Dr_willis> LiL-joN,  you mean that?
[21:29] <sea4ever> Does anyone in here know Mandriva?
[21:30] <administrator> genii: http://pastebin.com/m6ddbc5a7
[21:30] <genii> administrator: The -m  one is supposed to make a wlan0 entry which will run upon boot
[21:30] <LiL-joN> Dr_willis: yeah
[21:30] <administrator> genii: so i should reboot the box?
[21:30] <Dr_willis> LiL-joN,  fire up the package manager, serch, click, install. :)
[21:30] <sea4ever> How can I make a Mandriva linux PC auto login on start up?
[21:31] <Dr_willis> sea4ever,  that would be a KDM/gdm setting/option.
[21:31] <feierfox> what is a recommented DVD-transcoding tool?
[21:31] <feierfox> AVI to DVD
[21:31] <sayers> feierfox: I have the same problem
[21:31] <WaltzingAlong> any plans to change the names from ubuntu and kubuntu to ubuntu with gnome and ubuntu with kde, or some such thing?
[21:31] <genii> administrator: Well, normally not neccesary. but in this case I would say yes, to re-initialise the entire networking system
[21:31] <WaltzingAlong> !info devede | feierfox
[21:31] <ubotu> feierfox: devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.9-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 449 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[21:31] <Dr_willis> WaltzingAlong,  i doubt it. :)
[21:32] <administrator> genii: you mean re-install kubuntu entirely?
[21:32] <sayers> WaltzingAlong: that doesnt work really..
[21:32] <_spanner_> sea4ever: open kcontrol, under the "system administration" category choose "login manager". It's in the "convenience" tab
[21:32]  * Dr_willis has Ubuntu-with-gnome-with-kde-with-xfce-with-matchbox-with-jwm-with-others
[21:33] <genii> administrator: No. During boot the computer now should hopefully properly make the wlan0 device using the ndiswrapper
[21:33] <bjwebb> is 'fsck -f /dev/sd....' the best command o use to scan a removable disk
[21:33] <administrator> ok
[21:33] <administrator> genii: i already tried a reboot and it didn't work
[21:34] <truth> when im doing the upgrade to 7.10 from 7.04 during the upgrade process, i get an error in the update, something about automatix
[21:34] <genii> administrator: does command: lsmod|grep ndiswrapper        produce a result? Just yes or no is sufficient, to know if it is being loaded
[21:34] <Dr_willis> truth,  you used automatix? that an often break upgrades...
[21:34] <administrator> yes
[21:35] <administrator> genii: yes
[21:35] <Dr_willis> Now ya one of the reasons people in here say dont use automatix.
[21:35] <Dr_willis> Might want to check in #automatix , or pastebin the error and perhaps someone will have a idea as to what to do.
[21:35] <bjwebb> is 'fsck -f /dev/sd....' the best command o use to scan a removable disk?
[21:36] <genii> administrator: OK. so now, do: ifconfig        and tell me if device wlan0 appears in the list of network devices
[21:36] <administrator> kk
[21:36] <Dr_willis> bjwebb,  j IS there another command? i dont know of any.
[21:36] <Dr_willis> that will check the filesystem..    :)
[21:37] <administrator> genii: http://pastebin.com/m725e9610 not sure
[21:37] <genii> reading
[21:37] <bjwebb> Dr_willis: i dunno, thats why im asking :D
[21:38] <truth> it's uninstalled now, and i still get the rror
[21:38] <lee986321> say any one have an idea where that restricted driver is at in feisty?
[21:39] <lee986321> in kubuntu?
[21:40] <genii> work,AFK a couple
[21:40] <administrator> genii: what i do?]
[21:40] <lee986321> hello?
[21:40] <lee986321> any one home lol
[21:41] <ded1> lee986321:  try restr<tab> in colsone
[21:42] <lee986321> eoh ok
[21:42] <lee986321> eh im in festy fawn
[21:43] <lee986321> whats a cosone?
[21:43] <LiL-joN> hey everybody i just finished installing kubuntu ill be right back
[21:43] <administrator> genii: where did you go?
[21:43] <lee986321> eh colsone?
[21:44] <ded1> console :)
[21:45] <lee986321> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[21:45] <mpa> i just installed kooldock, but i cant find it in the menu
[21:45] <lee986321> eh she ent to work
[21:45] <The_Machine> i'm having a hard time restoring grub from a live cd (kubuntu 7.10 beta)
[21:45] <The_Machine> could someone help me?
[21:45] <lee986321> wre's he restricted driver hiding at?
[21:45] <The_Machine> i have followed the directions here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113&highlight=grub+restore&page=2
[21:45] <The_Machine> but it isn't wrking so well
[21:46] <Ben_Cs> still having the ssh server problem. didn't have it when run ssh from kubuntu gutsy beta cd. the problem is that when i "ssh localhost" i get nothing. no login, nothing. as if the prog hanges in terminal  any ideas?
[21:46] <mpa> i just installed kooldock, but i cant find it in the menu
[21:46] <lee986321> ben do you hasve a second hdd?
[21:47] <genii> back
[21:47] <Ben_Cs> lee986321: no
[21:47] <Ben_Cs> lee986321: y?
[21:47] <genii> administrator: I'm at work so once in a while i need to go away from the computer when they need me, etc
[21:47] <lee986321> well maybe i t can work with the disk...though not sure
[21:47] <lee986321> there is a back up taht is automaticaly made
[21:48] <administrator> genii: ok didnt know
[21:48] <Ben_Cs> lee986321: from livecd ssh works fine
[21:48] <genii> administrator: Ok, read the paste. your wlan0 device is not being set up
[21:48] <woundedfawx> !dban
[21:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dban - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:48] <genii> administrator: Please pastebin the contents of your file /etc/network/interfaces
[21:49] <sub[t]rnl> mpa: do an alt+f2 then kooldock
[21:49] <administrator> genii: how i do that
[21:49] <lee986321> yeah, waht I am saying is that if your trying to restore the grub try when using the  lice cd    sudo nano /ect/x11/org.conf
[21:49] <mpa> wont work
[21:49] <lee986321> oh wait never mind thats for the vid issue
[21:49] <genii> administrator: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces                   then it will open in the editor. you can copy it from there. Keep it open after in case we need to adjust it
[21:50] <sub[t]rnl> mpa: how did you install kooldock?
[21:50] <lee986321>  hmm can some one tell me where that natoriouse restricetd driver is hiding at?
[21:51] <administrator> genii: http://pastebin.com/m1b186fb3
[21:51] <genii> administrator: Ok, reading
[21:51] <setforfaen> hello everyone. my knetworkmanager somehow decided to go into "manual wireless mode" forever. I'm unable to do a simple site survey... so my question is how can I reset all network settings to default?
[21:52] <genii> administrator: LOL. OK, for that command, do first alt-f2    then type it in there to run it
[21:53] <administrator> genii: ok
[21:54] <cbo> hello all. the power manager applet is loaded but no info about battery charge is given, what could i do?
[21:54] <administrator> genii: http://pastebin.com/m7d5978af
[21:54] <setforfaen> hello everyone. my knetworkmanager somehow decided to go into "manual wireless mode" forever. I'm unable to do a simple site survey... so my question is how can I reset all network settings to default?
[21:55] <Vermux> How do I quit BC ?
[21:56] <Vermux> does anyone know how to quit bc in shell?
[21:56] <setforfaen> init 0 ?
[21:56] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: the easiest i think will be to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:57] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: will that reset knetworkmanager to default settings, where I can do a simple site survey?
[21:57] <genii> administrator: OK, you have 1 wired adapter and 1 wireless actuallly in there?
[21:57] <administrator> yes
[21:57] <The_Machine> need help with grub reinstallatino PLEASE
[21:57] <cbo> Vermux: quit
[21:57] <The_Machine> i'm in the live CD, at grub menu
[21:57] <The_Machine> my HDD is at /media/sda1
[21:57] <ScorpKing> !grub The_Machine
[21:57] <administrator> genii: yes
[21:57] <Vermux> cbo: haleluya
[21:57]  * The_Machine waits to get !grub'd
[21:57] <The_Machine> !grub
[21:57] <genii> administrator: OK, remove the entries for eth1,eth2 and for ath0.
[21:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:57] <ScorpKing> lol.
[21:58] <sebastian^> hehe
[21:58] <sebastian^> :)
[21:58] <administrator> genii: how i do that? :p
[21:58] <cbo> Vermux: always try Control-C when dont know how to exit a program
[21:58] <The_Machine> ScorpKing, i have a problem with those instructions
[21:58] <The_Machine> i tried them already and they didn't work
[21:58] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: if you remove all the changes that got made in interfaces knetworkmanager will be back to default.
[21:59] <The_Machine> i believe that's because it's because of how my hdd is mounted in the live CD or something (?)
[21:59] <genii> administrator: If you have the file still open, just use the editor to put a # in front of those lines. then save.
[21:59] <Vermux> cbo: thanks for the advice
[21:59] <administrator> genii: all the lines?
[21:59] <ScorpKing> The_Machine: i have no idea. grub is one thing i never played with. :P
[21:59] <administrator> genii: ok
[21:59] <cbo> Vermux: you're wellcome
[21:59]  * The_Machine would really like to both fix this and learn this
[21:59] <genii> administrator: Just put a # in front of the entries for eth1 eth2 and ath0. For the others just leave them as is
[22:00] <The_Machine> anyone who can help me with restoring grub?  (without typing !grub The_Machine ?)
[22:00] <administrator> geni: done
[22:00] <administrator> genii: done
[22:00] <The_Machine> ScorpKing, man, thanks a lot for trying, I appreciate it :)
[22:00] <Hatl> hi! if i execute "kwrite" as root i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server" what's the problem?
[22:00] <genii> administrator. by those entries i mean the line with that name and the line right below
[22:00] <administrator> genii: done
[22:00] <sub[t]rnl> Hatl: try not running it as root
[22:01] <genii> administrator: Ok, good. 1 minute , i need to look up something about ndiswrapper. Will be back. you can close the editor if you like
[22:01] <Hatl> but i want to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst using kwrite
[22:01] <sub[t]rnl> Hatl: sudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.1st
[22:02] <Hatl> i want to start it using a root shell (opened with "su -")
[22:02] <ScorpKing> The_Machine: np. one day i'll take a look at one of the install scripts like Puppy linux's installer. it's in there. :0
[22:02] <Hatl> cause i dont want to start every command with sudo :)
[22:02] <The_Machine> hmm
[22:02] <sub[t]rnl> hat1: you are starting it as root, but if you want to start it from a root shell, you'll need to have your xserver started with the root account, not recommended
[22:02] <cbo> Hatl: kdesu
[22:02] <The_Machine> this is really frustrating
[22:03] <Hatl> i also dont want to start every command using kdesu :)
[22:04] <cbo> Hatl: setuid
[22:04] <genii> administrator: OK, back. Please try now the command: ifup wlan0
[22:04] <Hatl> cbo: you mean i should set the uid of my user to 0?
[22:04] <genii> administrator: You may need sudo in front of that, my bad
[22:04] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: doing a "mv interfaces interfaces.bak" and a restart of knetwork app did no change
[22:05] <cbo> Hatl: you could do a script setuid root
[22:05] <setforfaen> and I fail to see what the interfaces config file would do for wireless
[22:05] <administrator> genii: how? sudo# or #sudo
[22:05] <Hatl> i just want to start X applications using a shell started with "su -"
[22:06] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: pastebin your interfaces file
[22:06] <sash_> hey guys, does anyone know how to patch WiFi on ThinkPad 40 for packet injection?
[22:06] <Hatl> i tried "xhost +" but didnt work
[22:06] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: http://pastebin.ca/740315
[22:07] <ScorpKing> USEFULL Info - knetworkmanager seems to hang when connection to secured wireless networks. use Wifi-radar to get pats that. :D
[22:07] <ScorpKing> getting stuck at 28% that is.
[22:08] <genii> administrator: sudo ifup wlan0
[22:09] <The_Machine> how do i start kubuntu without the "Kubuntu" gui at startup?   anyone?
[22:09] <genii> administrator: If that command completes without errors, then please pastebin the results of command:   ifconfig      again
[22:10] <administrator> genii: i get errors
[22:10] <administrator> genii: how do i place sudo in front of #?
[22:10] <genii> The_Machine: For one time only hit ESC at grub, edit default kernel line to remove splash line
[22:10] <Hatl> The_Machine: you can edit the start screen with kcontrol
[22:11] <The_Machine> thanks guys!
[22:11] <administrator> genii: http://pastebin.com/m67392d42
[22:11] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40985/ make it look like that.
[22:12] <Hatl> if i execute "kwrite" as root (su -) i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server", what's the problem?
[22:12] <ScorpKing> sash_: i think there is a guide on ubuntudocs for that.
[22:12] <ScorpKing> Hatl: let me get the link for that. one sec
[22:13] <genii> administrator: Well I'm pretty much out of immediate ideas then right now
[22:13] <administrator> genii: you never told how i put sudo in front of #
[22:13] <administrator> genii: do i still need to do that? cause i didnt do it yet
[22:13] <Vermux> how do I display a content of a file in shell? cat doesnt work
[22:13] <ScorpKing> Hatl: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964.0;topicseen
[22:14] <bobesponja> hi
[22:14] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: how do I re-read all network settings, so that the new interfaces file is read, and knetwork applet starts working?
[22:14] <bobesponja> are there dolphin kde4 packages? I can't find them
[22:14] <genii> administrator: when you ask about how to put sudo in front of # it is a confusing question. the # of the command prompt? If you have a # instead of a $ as command prompt you are on as root
[22:14] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:14] <sub[t]rnl> bobesponja: dolphin comes with the gutsy release, so I know they're out there
[22:15] <administrator> genii: here is one of the lines "#auto eth1" how should it look with the sudo?
[22:15] <bobesponja> sub[t]rnl: I'm running on gutsy actually, latest
[22:15] <Vermux> cbo: how do I display the content of a file in shell? cat doesnt work!
[22:15] <genii> administrator: no, the sudo command of "sudo ifup wlan0" does NOT go in the file. It is to be typed at the console only.
[22:15] <sub[t]rnl> bobesponja: dolphin file manager is in start->system
[22:16] <cbo> cat should work
[22:16] <bobesponja> sub[t]rnl: yes but I'm looking for the kde4 version
[22:16] <cbo> Vermux: cat should work
[22:16] <administrator> genii: im not talking about the sudo ifup wlna0" im talking about that kate notepad that opened up and you told me to put # in front of specified lines remember?
[22:16] <ScorpKing> cbo: on my box i have the same problem with cat sometimes
[22:16] <sub[t]rnl> I thought dolphin -was- the kde4 version, its a sampler of the upcoming kde4
[22:17] <bobesponja> Vermux: maybe you don't have permissions, try with sudo cat file
[22:17] <administrator> genii: then you said to place sudo in front and that confused me
[22:17] <genii> administrator: Yes, but it has nothing at all to do with sudo
[22:17] <bobesponja> sub[t]rnl: nope, it's the buggy kde3 version that comes with gutsy
[22:17] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: The problem is still persistant. I don't have any problems getting the interfaces to work properly. The problem is that it won't list the wireless networks (I've made sure that the wireless switch is on, and all typical errors are non existant). It will only let me configure wireless networks manually, with no wpa support
[22:17] <Hatl> ScorpKing: this link doesn't solve my problem. its about an error while starting the X server
[22:17] <genii> administrator: when i said to place sudo in front, that was referring to when i instructed you to only type: ifup wlan0       instead of:  sudo ifup wlan0
[22:18] <administrator> oh i see
[22:18] <administrator> ok
[22:18] <administrator> genii: that tutorial that i followed, is that one outdated?
[22:18] <cbo> ScorpKing: what do you get instead the contents of the file?
[22:19] <Vermux> bobesponja: it doesnt work
[22:19] <genii> administrator: No, that tutorial is fairly current, although originally would have been for 6.06 (Dapper) ubuntu. Still apliccable however
[22:19] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with changing one panel but not the other one
[22:19] <sub[t]rnl> Hatl: the xserver belongs to the user that started it.  You can start an xserver as root, and then root will be able to connect to the display, or you can just simply do "kdesu kwrite" to edit files with kwrite as root
[22:19] <genii> bah typos
[22:19] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: install wifi-radar and try it. knetworkmanager does have a few bugs regarding wireless.
[22:19]  * genii searches for his next sip of coffee
[22:19] <sub[t]rnl> Hatl: it was done this way for a reason
[22:19] <Vermux> bobesponja: when I open it from home folder in the desktop it works
[22:20] <administrator> genii: then why didnt it function for me properly?
[22:20] <ScorpKing> Hatl: can you pastebin the error you get?
[22:20] <Hatl> kwrite: cannot connect to X server
[22:20] <ScorpKing> cbo: it's working now.
[22:20] <genii> administrator: That is what we are trying to discover :)
[22:20] <ScorpKing> Hatl: do you run as a normal user or root?
[22:21] <sub[t]rnl> Hat1: don't run it from a root shell within a user started xserver... pretty simple
[22:21] <Hatl> as root, "su - " and then "kwrite"
[22:21] <Vermux> bobesponja: other file I can c, but this kwrite file I cannot c
[22:21] <ScorpKing> Hatl: use kdesu kate instead
[22:21] <Hatl> i start one konsole as root and i want to start X applications from there
[22:21] <ScorpKing> Hatl: or kwrite
[22:22] <administrator> genii: would you recommend that i re-install kubuntu then?
[22:22] <genii> administrator: please pastebin contents of file: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:22] <Hatl> its not just about kwrite, i want to start different X applications using a root shell
[22:22] <Hatl> because i dont want to use sudo or kdeu all the time :)
[22:22] <ScorpKing> Hatl: that won't work. put kdesu in front before you start an app. like kdesu kwrite. that will start it as root.
[22:22] <sub[t]rnl> Hatl: if you want to start applications as root, then create an icon, and add in "kdesu" before the application command.
[22:23] <cbo> Hatl: xnest
[22:23] <genii> administrator: No, i would not recomment a reinstall of the operating system. If this issue is occuring now the odds of a reinstall automatically somehow making it disappear are not good
[22:23] <Hatl> ScorpKing: it works (on my gentoo installation :) )
[22:24] <ScorpKing> Hatl: i think *ubuntu have disabled that.
[22:24] <Vermux> nobody knows why cat cannot display kwrite file?
[22:24] <setforfaen> Isn't there a way to just reset ALL settings that has with knetworkapplet to do
[22:24] <setforfaen> and wireless
[22:24] <setforfaen> heh
[22:24] <cbo> Vemux: what do you get instead file content
[22:25] <Hatl> ScorpKing: its possible to enable it but i dont know how
[22:25] <cbo> Vermux: what do you get instead file content
[22:25] <genii> administrator: remember for opening config files and so on, alt-f2 then:   kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist          (in this case)
[22:25] <tzanger> evening everyone
[22:25] <setforfaen> wifi-radar came off as buggy to me... couldn't edit a profile in it
[22:25] <Hatl> ScorpKing: i tried "xhost +" but it doesnt work
[22:25] <Vermux> cbo: >
[22:25] <cbo> Vermux: and the command you enter?
[22:25] <tzanger> I've got a strange printing problem...  the printer works with cups attached to the commputer.  I have added it to my kubuntu box as a remote cups printer, and cups (on the computer with the printer) is set up to accept connections
[22:25] <genii> administrator: Keep the file open after the copy/paste to pastebin site. we may need to edit
[22:26] <Vermux> cat FileName
[22:26] <tzanger> I can submit a job but they are always held, and if I use wireshark to look at the ipp traffic, the cups server I'm trying to print to spits back "no file?!"
[22:26] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: if knetworkmanager don't get dhcp from the wireless router it won't work. a lot of people have problems with knetworkmanager and wireless. i use wireless myself. :P try to connect manually to a network.
[22:26] <Hatl> cbo: xnest isnt what i want. its just a stupid config file entry i need :)
[22:26] <Vermux> cbo: cat FileName
[22:27] <administrator> genii: what file?
[22:27] <administrator> brb genii
[22:27] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: you have to start wifi-radar as root.
[22:27] <genii> administrator: alt-f2 then:   kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:27] <genii> administrator: so the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   is the one i'm speaking of
[22:27] <cbo> Vermux: strange...
[22:27] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: You are misunderstanding... The problem is not related to DHCP or IP configuration on the interface. The problem is related to knetworkmanager being unable to do a simple site survey. It did it before. I don't see any options in the settings where I can put on site survey. It just says "manual settings" where the ssid's where before
[22:28] <setforfaen> I can connect to a wireless network by manually editing it
[22:28] <Vermux> cbo: I also tried sudo cat FileName
[22:28] <genii> AFK, need coffee
[22:28] <setforfaen> I did start wifi radar as root - but, as I said, I couldn't edit the profiles
[22:28] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: lol. i see.
[22:28] <cbo> Vermux: less FileName
[22:28] <Hatl> DISPLAY=:0 and xhost +localhost did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:29] <Vermux> cbo: what is less?
[22:29] <Hatl> DISPLAY=:0 and "xhost +localhost" did it :)
[22:29] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: looking for a solution...
[22:29] <BonBonTheJon> In gutsy, when I try opening kopete, it crashes. Any others confirm?
[22:29] <cbo> Hatl: congratulations
[22:29] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: Yes it's all hilarious. I'd configure it manually if it had options for manually editing wpa-psk :)
[22:29] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: many thanks
[22:30] <Vermux> cbo: give the same result: >
[22:30] <administrator> genii:
[22:30] <Hatl> cbo: thx
[22:30] <administrator> genii: what were you talking about before?
[22:30] <cbo> Vermux: i think the problem is in the file
[22:30] <Vermux> cbo: it is a text file
[22:30] <cbo> Vermux: ls -l FileName
[22:31] <pillowpants> does anyone here use rtorrent?
[22:31] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: haha. true - /home/you/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc* is where the settings are kept i think. move those to another location and start knet.. again.
[22:31] <cbo> MUCHACHADA NUI
[22:32] <administrator> genii: http://pastebin.com/m3b3203c8
[22:32] <Vermux> cbo: same. : >
[22:32] <imagine[laptop]> whenever I put my mouse on top or on the bottom of the screen it minimizes all my window what is that option so I can disable it ?
[22:32] <cbo> Vermux: sudo ls -l FileName
[22:33] <ScorpKing> Vermux: ls -l filename. what are the permissions?
[22:33] <ScorpKing> hehe
[22:33]  * ScorpKing pass genii a much needed refill...
[22:33] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: Tried it. Defaulted settings (as it asked me to confirm me wanting to quit after quitting), but same problem :S
[22:34] <Vermux> cbo: doesnt work too
[22:34] <Vermux> ScorpKing: output: >
[22:34] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: does it have "Connect to other Wireless Network" option when you right click on it?
[22:34] <imagine[laptop]> Anyone plz ?
[22:35] <administrator> genii: you about?
[22:35] <ScorpKing> Vermux: sudo su - then - ls -l filename ?
[22:35] <ardchoille> imagine[laptop]: is it actually minimising windows or is it switch to another desktop (moue rollover)?
[22:35] <genii> ScorpKing: Thx
[22:35] <ScorpKing> np :D
[22:35] <genii> administrator: Yes, just now. reading your paste
[22:36] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: nope
[22:36] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: then the drivers for your card is not installed. what card do you have?
[22:36] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: Wifi-Radar is able to do a site survey
[22:37] <setforfaen> ipw3915
[22:37] <imagine[laptop]> ardchoille: Minimizing, and the mouse changes itself to become an arrow when I reach top/bottom and both edges..
[22:37] <lee__> eh if ther are no rested drivers showing up does that mean that evey thing is normal? well sor of lol?
[22:37] <imagine[laptop]> It's like scaling application with Beryl/Compiz-fusion
[22:37] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: what is the output from iwconfig?
[22:37] <ardchoille> imagine[laptop]: are you using beryl or compiz?
[22:38] <imagine[laptop]> ardchoille: no.. I did use it.. but running on kwin now
[22:38] <genii> administrator: OK, you can remove all the extra lines of "blacklist mrv8k"  but leave 1. Otherwise that file looks like it should.
[22:38] <administrator> genii: what you mean?
[22:38] <ardchoille> imagine[laptop]: I asked because that is weird
[22:38]  * genii sighs
[22:38] <ScorpKing> lol @ genii
[22:38] <imagine[laptop]> ardchoille: yes it looks like it'sa  aghost feature from beryl..
[22:38] <administrator> oh ok
[22:38] <MoNsTeR> how do i edit xorg .conf file
[22:38] <administrator> sorry
[22:38] <lee__> if theres isnt anny resrtceted drivers showing does that mean it is ok?
[22:39] <administrator> genii: now what i do?
[22:39] <ScorpKing> MoNsTeR: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:39] <Vermux> ScorpKing: problem solved
[22:39] <genii> administrator: I mean that there are 6 lines of "blacklist mrv8k" and only 1 line of "blacklist mrv8k" is needed
[22:39] <ardchoille> MoNsTeR: back it up first. then do: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:39] <ScorpKing> Vermux: how?
[22:39] <administrator> genii: i got ;) sorry i just have several others servers to deal with
[22:39] <administrator> genii: now what those lines are gone
[22:39] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: http://pastebin.ca/740368
[22:40] <imagine[laptop]> ardchoille: it's very weird.. and I hate that feature... I don't know how to disable it..
[22:40] <Vermux> ScorpKing: I didnt know that I should type \ before ' or before space
[22:40] <Vermux> ScorpKing: in regards to the filename
[22:40] <ScorpKing> imagine[laptop]: it's in kcontrol somewhere
[22:40] <ardchoille> imagine[laptop]: are you sure you're on kwin now? Because that sounds like might still be in compiz/beryl
[22:40] <hydrogen> Vermux: tab completion is your friend :)
[22:40] <imagine[laptop]> ardchoille: positive, did kwin --replace twice...
[22:40] <ScorpKing> Vermux: haha. that make sense. lol
[22:40] <Vermux> hydrogen: now I know
[22:40] <ardchoille> imagine[laptop]: have you tried logging out and back in?
[22:41] <genii> administrator: OK, good. From here anything I would suggest would be mostly speculation fom me as to what the problem is. It seems not to know about device wlan0 and so cannot set it up.
[22:41] <imagine[laptop]> it's been doing it for weeks
[22:41] <ardchoille> oh
[22:42] <imagine[laptop]> ScorpKing: gonna try to find it
[22:42] <administrator> genii: so you dont know what else to do?
[22:42] <lee__> hydrogen no restrcted drivers mens that everytings been found right?
[22:42] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: lsmod | grep ipw - do you see the driver there?
[22:42] <ndrea> Everytime i close Dolphin I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40995/    what should I do?
[22:42] <setforfaen> hey ScorpKing ... I just noticed that the restricted drivers icon is missing. How do I restart that?
[22:43] <lee__> I have that same issue lol
[22:43] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: YEs, ipw3945 and ieee80211 is loaded
[22:43] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: using gusty? heh, no idea.
[22:43] <genii> administrator: In some cases for wireless adapters, extra commands are needed in the file /etc/network/interfaces   We opened and looked at this already. You could attempt there to specify an IP and essid or such. But as I said this would be speculation from me. It would still need to be able to see that the device exists
[22:43] <setforfaen> using 7.10 beta
[22:43] <imagine[laptop]> ardchoille: actually scale plugin not workin when using ocmpiz --replace.. it's a kwin specific
[22:43] <travis_> anyone know how to change the threshold for kbluelock?
[22:44] <MoNsTeR> how do i restart X
[22:44] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: lol. that might be the problem. using 7.04 here.
[22:44] <lee__> wao we have an administrator..wow that raare
[22:44] <ScorpKing> MoNsTeR: <ctrl>+<alt>+<backspace> or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[22:44] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: I checked in kcontrolcenter - the restricted fw is in use
[22:45] <genii> administrator: An example can be found here (for a different card but it shows the way to make the proper entry in the file /etc/network/interfaces) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/manual-network-setup-works-etcnetworkinterfaces-doesnt-450357/
[22:45] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: maybe a reboot? lol
[22:45] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: lmao tried that several times already
[22:45] <genii> Bah. Not even a thanks for the effort
[22:45]  * genii sips a coffee and sulks
[22:45] <administrator> genii: i think ill just reinstall kubuntu
[22:45] <kaminix> Anyone know if there's any problems using scim/skim with ANTHY in Gutsy? Remember having troubles in the beta, don't want to switch toworrow unless it works.
[22:45]  * ScorpKing pass genii a doughnut to cheer him up...
[22:45] <setforfaen> But I can try it again in a bit
[22:46] <administrator> genii: i tried to install nfts-config and had issues so i think it messed up there
[22:46] <Ben_Cs> hello
[22:46] <genii> administrator: If you feel you must. but I will bet the same issue will exist afterwards.
[22:46] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: haha. i'm out of ideas.
[22:46] <Ben_Cs> when i "ssh localhost" i get after several minutes: ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection timed out
[22:46] <lee__> hmm I am confused lol
[22:46] <Ben_Cs> please help
[22:46] <setforfaen> ScorpKing: Thanks for the help anyways
[22:47] <genii> ScorpKing: tHANKS
[22:47] <lee__> genii, iam kinda a curiouse  as to why I have a missing restricted drivr..or does that simply mean that everything has been found?
[22:47] <ScorpKing> ndrea: run chmod u+w /home/andrea/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[22:47] <genii> Ben_Cs: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[22:48] <ScorpKing> setforfaen, genii :np
[22:48] <lee__> if this is the case I hope the update doesnt kill my drover
[22:48] <lee__> ati
[22:48] <mikedomo> countdown begins
[22:48] <mikedomo> to arrive new gutsy gibbon
[22:49] <ScorpKing> setforfaen: i think for some reason knetworkmanager doens't see your card. :(
[22:49] <genii> lee__: I haven't been following the scroll :( But if you ran restricted-manager  and it told you no drivers needed likely it's not fibbing
[22:49] <lee__> scorpKing, if there is no restricted drivers does that mean the programs found pretty much everything?
[22:49] <imagine[laptop]> can you upgrade feisty without downloadin the Live DVD
[22:49] <imagine[laptop]> with apt-get for example
[22:49] <imagine[laptop]> apt-get dist upgrade ?
[22:49] <hydrogen> upgrade feisty from/to what?
[22:49] <lee__> hmm how do I run that program?
[22:49] <imagine[laptop]> to gutsy
[22:49] <imagine[laptop]> like tomorrow
[22:50] <lee__> I went into my settings and ithere something about open gl
[22:50] <mikedomo> gutsy gibbon
[22:50] <ScorpKing> lee__: not sure. things usually works better with the drivers installed. :P
[22:50] <genii> lee__: alt-f2 then: kdesu restricted-manager
[22:50] <mikedomo> the true ubuntu power
[22:50] <lee__> ah ty
[22:50] <ScorpKing> ndrea: try chmod u+w /home/andrea/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin
[22:50] <genii> lee__: If can't be found you can install it from package manager
[22:51] <ndrea> ok
[22:51] <ScorpKing> ndrea: that will make the directory writeable for you.
[22:51] <lee__> wahts the comand line for getting it it said error comand not found
[22:51] <genii> administrator: Since I'm not sure you got my last msg before you left/returned
[22:51] <genii> administrator: An example can be found here (for a different card but it shows the way to make the proper entry in the file /etc/network/interfaces) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/manual-network-setup-works-etcnetworkinterfaces-doesnt-450357/
[22:52] <ScorpKing> :D having fun genii? :P
[22:52] <genii> administrator: That is for specifying about wlan0 things like essid IP address and so on
[22:52] <genii> lee__: `One moment
[22:52] <lee__> genii, is it apt get.wahts the command  to ge tit
[22:52] <lee__> Oh ok
[22:52] <ndrea> ScorpKing: again the same error
[22:52] <ScorpKing> lee__: apt-get or aptitude
[22:52] <pillowpants> how similar is ktorrent to utorrent?
[22:53] <lee__> ok
[22:53] <ScorpKing> ndrea: what does ls -l /home/andrea/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin say?
[22:54] <ndrea> hm, solved... I had to do sudo chown andrea:andrea -R ~/.kde
[22:54] <ScorpKing> lol
[22:54] <ndrea> hm... why lol? =)
[22:54] <genii> lee__: I suspect that: sudo apt-get install restricted-manager                may do it
[22:55]  * ardchoille wonders how that happened
[22:55] <ScorpKing> ndrea: i wonder why is that? did you copy the files from somewhere else?
[22:55] <ndrea> which files?
[22:55] <ScorpKing> .kde
[22:55] <lee__> Success
[22:55] <lee__> ty
[22:55] <ScorpKing> np
[22:55] <ardchoille> ndrea: Why was the ~/.kde folder belonging to another user?
[22:55] <ndrea> hm, I think not... not sure
[22:56] <ScorpKing> lol
[22:56] <lee__> thank you genii
[22:56] <ScorpKing> !helpersnack | genii
[22:56] <ubotu> genii: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[22:56] <ScorpKing> :D
[22:57]  * ardchoille hands genii a coffee to go with the cookie
[22:57] <BluesKaj> does anyone here have the 64 bit gutsy version installed on a pc with elcheapo ati x200 graphics, like I have ?
[22:57] <genii> lee__: You may also want to install a package of name:  linux-restricted-modules-      then here would be your specific kernel name. so possiblylinux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic  if that is your kernel
[22:57] <genii> ardchoille, ScorpKing Thanks, i needed that :)
[22:58] <ScorpKing> hehe. np
[22:58] <ardchoille> genii:  linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` works too
[22:58] <genii> ardchoille: Yes : You can tell I'm needing my caffeine about now LOL
[22:58] <BluesKaj> err lemme rephrase that:,  does anyone here have the 64 bit gutsy version installed on a pc with elcheapo ati x200 graphics ?
[22:58] <ardchoille> lol
[22:58] <lee__> genii not sure waht i am runnug other then its kubunu
[22:59] <lee__> I just executed that comand line for restricted drivers didnt see any ything that came up
[22:59] <genii> lee__: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: Xpress1100
[22:59] <genii> lee__: the `  are beside the 1 key not beside the enter key
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: close enuogh?
[23:00] <BluesKaj> X1100 sounds more advanced than X200 , nosrednaekim :)
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: its petty much the same chip, detected as a xpress 200 in fiesty
[23:01] <lee__> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules
[23:01] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, I tried the 64bit version of tribe 3-4-5 , none would even boot past the menu scrn ...any ideas ?
[23:01] <chriswilliams> is aiglx in kubuntu?
[23:01] <ardchoille> lee__:  linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[23:01] <chriswilliams> and enabled by default?
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: nah... depends greatly on your hardware
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: however... I did have a question for you regarding the ATI 8.41 drivers.
[23:02] <genii> lee__: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`          <--- exactly that
[23:02] <BluesKaj> shoot , nosrednaekim
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: did you have to do anything funny with LibGL?
[23:03] <genii> lee__: copy and paste if neccesary :)
[23:04] <lee__> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic is already the newest version.
[23:04] <lee__> just a sec checking something
[23:04] <genii> lee__: Good. then just do then:   alt-f2  then type in:   kdesu restricted-manager
[23:04] <BluesKaj> it failed 3D and DRI after an adept update which broke the xorg.config file while I wasn't paying attention ...I should have known better ...it replaced mylibGL.so file with a newer version that doesn't work with google earth
[23:05] <genii> and click "Run" button
[23:05] <ScorpKing> why are there two sets of resolve.conf? /etc/sesolve.conf and /etc/ppp/resolve.conf. the one in /etc/ppp/ is used by dailup connections but that cause some of the apps in kde like konq not to have internet/dns. wtf?
[23:06] <lee__> hmm must be good news nothing popped up
[23:06] <genii> ScorpKing: Because your lan might need 1 set of dns and your dialup modem another entirely different set of dns servers
[23:06] <lee__> I am in the Kinfo cneter though
[23:06] <lee__> and theres an open gl Icon that is htere
[23:07] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: how did you install? straight from the .run or from autogenerated debs?
[23:07] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, I reverted to feisty afterwards ...new gutsy or no..if it won't do google earth , it's not for me :P
[23:07] <nosrednaekim> heh
[23:07] <galathalion> how do i zip a file in a terminal?
[23:07] <lee__> and its saying Messa 1.3
[23:07] <ScorpKing> genii: so why does konqueror not use whichever one is being used? it doensn't even try to lookup a site, it just say not found after a millisecond.
[23:07] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, I just sudo ./******.run
[23:07] <genii> ScorpKing: You can run with default gateway normall for lan, then in ppp options file put: replacedefaultroute which will switch to dialup for dns
[23:08] <BluesKaj> I DL'd the run file , nosrednaekim
[23:08] <genii> ScorpKing: Since there can be only 1 DEFAULT route it must know which to use at any given moment
[23:08] <Vermux> !expr
[23:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about expr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:08] <lee__> genii when I did taht alt f2 and ran it nothing happend
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: i see, that doens't work on 64 bit.. probably my problem
[23:08] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeonhdd.html
[23:09] <MoNsTeR> how do i install firefox
[23:09] <Vermux> !expression
[23:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about expression - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:09] <lee__> Iam guessing I have a version taht finally recognises my ati card lol
[23:09] <Vermux> grrr
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: i'll check into it later, thanks
[23:09] <lee__> is there a way to save taht data?
[23:09] <ScorpKing> genii: thanks. guys that use dsl modems that require authentication from the box have the same problem btw, like that guy Bleep the had so much trouble. lol.
[23:10] <lee__>  or back it up so that when gutsy omes out I can plug it in to it?
[23:10] <ScorpKing> that*
[23:10] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, that's the experimental HD version for the Radeon 2900 card but I was inforn=med that it works for most Radeons
[23:10] <genii> lee__: open a Konsole then, and put the command in there:    kdesu restricted-manager                   if it gives some info about why not popping up it will be left in the terminal hopefully
[23:10] <Vermux> is the command "expr"important?
[23:11] <lee__> oh boy ok it came up but boy a lot of erroers in the comand lines
[23:11] <genii> lee__: Then again, it may already be running, in the tray. Did you look there by the clock already?
[23:11] <MoNsTeR> how do i install firefox
[23:11] <boubbin> anyone able to upgrade to the newest kde ?
[23:12] <lee__> Failed to open device\
[23:12] <lee__> but I have it up now lol
[23:12] <boubbin> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-358.php to this
[23:12] <ScorpKing> genii: so i just add replacedefaultroute to /etc/ppp/options right?
[23:12] <MrBallZ> question: is Gutsy coming with KDE 3.5.8 ?  or  .7 ??
[23:12] <genii> lee__: Yeah that will be the X groaning because the entries about wacom in the xorg.conf file. no worries
[23:12] <genii> ScorpKing: Yup
[23:13] <ScorpKing> genii: thanks a lot. been bugging me for a while. will try it next time i dail up. :D
[23:13] <genii> ScorpKing: possibly also noauth
[23:13] <ScorpKing> it there
[23:13] <ScorpKing> 's*
[23:13] <genii> ScorpKing: :)
[23:14]  * ScorpKing adding genii to his hero list...
[23:14] <lee__> eh iam writing notes in my pda phone
[23:14] <lee__> ok thanks genii
[23:15] <genii> lee__: Yer welcome
[23:17] <genii> MoNsTeR: Open adept and look for package firefox, then check it off and install it.
[23:18] <ScorpKing> genii: heh, i never knew pppd used those files (looking around in /etc/ppp/*). always thought wvdail did it all. now a lot of things make sense.
[23:18] <MoNsTeR> genii: i did
[23:18] <MoNsTeR> how do i install ms core fonts
[23:19] <ScorpKing> MoNsTeR: add them to /home/you/.fonts/
[23:19] <intex> Hey, guys. After trying to install Java 6 Runtime Environment, Adept Manager keeps saying "There was an error committing changes..." everytime I try to install something new. Any help?
[23:20] <Vermux> how do I use the command "expr"?
[23:20] <stan> hi
[23:20] <MoNsTeR> ScorpKing: dude i meen the fonts from micro soft
[23:20] <MoNsTeR> ScorpKing: like arial
[23:20] <genii> MoNsTeR: Adept again. Look for package msttcorefonts
[23:20] <lee__> ok why is it giving me this?
[23:20] <ScorpKing> MoNsTeR: truetype?
[23:20] <lee__> sudo: unable to execute /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run: Permission denied
[23:20] <Vermux> who knows how to use "expr?
[23:20] <stan> does anyone know the exact hour of gutsy gibbon to download because the countdown for me its almost 0 :-)
[23:21] <ScorpKing> stan: it 00:20 here. lol
[23:21] <stan> yes
[23:21] <stan> :P
[23:21] <stan> and its not ready :(
[23:21] <lee__> genii whats this mean ?sudo: unable to execute /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run: Permission denied
[23:21] <ScorpKing> lol. poor servers today...
[23:21] <stan> noooooooo
[23:21] <genii> lee__: chmod +x /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run
[23:22] <lee__> ahh ok
[23:22] <lee__> ty
[23:22] <genii> lee__: OOPS... sudo chmod +x /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run
[23:22] <stan> ScorpKing i am always refreshing the page so when it will be ready
[23:22] <stan> i will tell you
[23:22] <stan> :P
[23:22] <ScorpKing> lol
[23:22] <MrBallZ> question: is Gutsy coming with KDE 3.5.8 ?  or  .7 ??
[23:22] <genii> stan: Yer a one man DDOS machine LOL
[23:23] <hydrogen> MrBallZ: 3.5.8
[23:23] <happytiger> 3,58
[23:23] <stan> genii hahahahahahah lol
[23:23] <genii> !info kdelibs gutsy
[23:23] <ubotu> kdelibs: core libraries from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 42 kB, installed size 92 kB
[23:23] <stan> genii i am to excited of waiting it
[23:23] <x128> hello everyone, i want to know what is the default root password?
[23:23] <ScorpKing> stan: i wont download it soon. i'm very happy with 7.04. very little problems and my laptop is a bit small. i also have a load of packages for feisty which will take me ages to get for gusty again. i'll wait a while. ;-)
[23:23] <genii> MrBallZ: 3.5.8
[23:23] <ScorpKing> !sudo
[23:23] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[23:24] <lee__> ok that just returns me lol
[23:24] <ScorpKing> x128: see there ^^
[23:24] <happytiger> ScorpKing: 7.10 pretty solid
[23:24] <happytiger> i dont use anythimg else
[23:24] <stan> ScorpKing you're ok but i messed up my pc with a lot of stuff and i just want to format it now and install a fresh copy ;-)
[23:24] <ScorpKing> maybe when i get my new box. :P
[23:25] <ScorpKing> intex: go to konsole
[23:25] <intex> I'm there... =)
[23:25] <ScorpKing> intex: type - sudo aptitude install blablaanycrapyouwantthatdoesnotexist
[23:26] <genii> lee__: You were able to run it but then it just dumped you back to command-line? Or was it trying to install from restricted-manager
[23:26] <ScorpKing> intex: that will tel you of any broken packages and remove them.
[23:26] <MoNsTeR> how do i make my kde look kool
[23:26] <MementoMori> hi all
[23:26] <genii> nvm, you were sudo /runnning/it
[23:26] <happytiger> kde looks cool with compiz fushion
[23:27] <MementoMori> does anyone have the torrent link for kubuntu 7.10 dvd ?
[23:27] <genii> lee__: If no errors likely it completed fine then
[23:27] <ScorpKing> MoNsTeR: go to http://www.kde-look.org and look around.
[23:27] <stan> MementoMori thats what i am waiting for too
[23:27] <ScorpKing> intex: anything about broken packages?
[23:27] <MementoMori> http://www.ubuntu-it.org/ does not load!
[23:27] <intex> Scorp, should I post my output here?
[23:28] <ScorpKing> !pastebin | intex
[23:28] <ubotu> intex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:28] <ScorpKing> there :D
[23:28] <MementoMori> http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=kubuntu+7.10 hasnt yet the final dvd version
[23:28] <ScorpKing> lol
[23:29] <juan_> im just running kubuntu why does my laptop think its in 3d mode?
[23:29] <lee__> normally theres a pop up that comes up wuth penquins
[23:29] <intex> Scorp, can you see it?
[23:29] <ScorpKing> just so you all know. gusty will be released today (18) but today will have 24 hours so it will be the 18th all day. :P
[23:29] <stan> MementoMori can i ask you why do you want to download it from isohunt when it is in the downloads section
[23:29] <lee__> asking how id like to istall th drivers.
[23:30] <ScorpKing> intex: where?
[23:30] <MementoMori> stan: yes you can
[23:30] <lee__> kubuntu seems to be a real turky on this where unbuntu isnt
[23:30] <genii> lee__: Ah, ok. so it's a graphical installer. If so then do the old routine of: alt-f2   then put: kdesu /the/pathname/thefilename
[23:30] <ScorpKing> intex: o ya and press <tab> after you typed Scorp in here :D
[23:30] <lee__> ah ok
[23:31] <lee__> wierd
[23:31] <intex> Ermn... I'm not following here?
[23:31] <ScorpKing> intex: hehe. you wanted to paste the output. give me the link where you pasted it. ;)
[23:31] <MementoMori> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/ has only rc!
[23:32] <intex> Ofcourse... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40997/
[23:32] <genii> MementoMori: Yes, final is not due out for a while yet. At least hours
[23:32] <intex> Didn't think of that at first =/
[23:32] <ScorpKing> MementoMori: 23 hours and 28 minutes (by me) until the day is over. :P
[23:32] <ScorpKing> intex: lol. checking...
[23:33] <stan> ScorpKing what do you mean by 23 hours ???
[23:33] <stan> you mean another day
[23:33] <stan> ??
[23:33] <lee__> no spaces in that right?
[23:33] <MementoMori> here the date is over from 33 minutes
[23:33] <genii> MementoMori: oct 18 release date does not mean 1 minute after midnight in your local timezone the iso becomes available immediately
[23:33] <leexgx> we are not stuck in an paradox here are we
[23:34] <leexgx> :P
[23:34] <MementoMori> genii: lol!
[23:34] <Dr_willis> The zen of linux. :)
[23:34] <ScorpKing> stan: lol. the 18th will be 24 hours long and the release could happen in any of them. :P
[23:34] <Dr_willis> Or it could even get delayed.. (doubtfull)
[23:34] <leexgx> not next day yet we got 1hr34 mins ?
[23:34] <MementoMori> genii: what's the right timezone?
[23:34]  * genii hands Dr_willis a large coffee
[23:34] <Dr_willis> its 6:30 here.
[23:34] <MementoMori> here 00.34
[23:35] <Dr_willis> and im gonna wait for the Gutsy Service Pack 1 - befor i install it.
[23:35] <leexgx> i just working off Pure GMT zone ?
[23:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:35]  * Dr_willis is KIDDING...
[23:35] <stan> ScorpKing lol :P i know but i think it will be on when it will be 18 for usa too
[23:35] <leexgx> its 23:34 here but we are +1hr
[23:35] <ScorpKing> here 00:35 lol
[23:35] <leexgx> id asume it be GMT ? unless
[23:35] <stan> me too
[23:35] <ScorpKing> intex: uhm... not sure how to fix that.
[23:36] <genii> MementoMori: Actually I'm not sure what timezone. i SUSPECT New Zealand since the security.ubuntu.com servers are there
[23:36] <lee__> well i did that and it asked fer my pw  and thatwas about it lol
[23:36] <intex> I was worrying you might say that...
[23:36] <ScorpKing> intex: have a problem removing a package - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40997/ anyone?
[23:36] <intex> Help! Close to desperate here...
[23:37] <MoNsTeR> !ntfs
[23:37] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[23:37] <ScorpKing> hehe. just wait a sec intex. someone will come to the rescue. :D
[23:37] <leexgx> id say its GMT time ? so its 22:36 at the time so we got 1hr 23 mins left untill next day ? then the clock starts untill we get it out
[23:37] <genii> lee__: Hmmm. Who owns that file?
[23:37] <intex> Nice! I've searched a lot of forums, but no luck so far.
[23:38] <ScorpKing> hmmm... GMT should be 22:28 now if i'm correct...
[23:38] <genii> lee__: Please report result of: ls -l /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run
[23:38] <ScorpKing> or whatever. lol
[23:38] <lee__> it stopped dead befor it had a chance to execute
[23:39]  * ScorpKing need for some coffee...
[23:39] <genii> lee__: Since it is a 64bit installer, please report reult of:     uname -m
[23:39] <lee__> when treid i it said access denied
[23:39] <lee__> eh how do i do that?
[23:39] <administrator> genii: do you know if gutsy will have an auto program to install all hardware drivers?
[23:40] <genii> lee__: Is this some ntfs fileystem, or something not ext filesystem the installer is on?
[23:40] <lee__> its on a card, and ubuntu read it fine
[23:41] <leexgx> ScorpKing: yep 1hr 20mins
[23:41] <leexgx> but may have to wait untill i get up need sleep
[23:41] <ScorpKing> intex: don't go away. searching for a solution...
[23:41] <intex> I know, and I am grateful. Well, I'm on holidays... Got all the time in the world =)
[23:42] <MoNsTeR> how do i veiw ntfs partion
[23:42] <genii> administrator: During install progress it will of course detect and set up more devices than Feisty did. There is also the restricted-manager which will give you option of using drivers from the manufacturer. As far as some stand-alone program which will autodetect and and setup your stuff l don't know. you could ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:42] <MoNsTeR> !ntfs
[23:42] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[23:42] <MoNsTeR> !ntfs-3g
[23:42] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[23:42] <atlfalcons866> !vfat
[23:42] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[23:42] <lee__> eh just clicked on the  thing
[23:42] <genii> lee__: try then: sudo ls -l /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run
[23:42] <lee__> grr
[23:43] <lee__> well i can alaways reload
[23:43] <genii> altho sudo for ls should never be needed, really
[23:43] <atlfalcons866> !defrag
[23:43] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[23:44] <x128> thx
[23:44] <x128> :)
[23:45] <genii> bah x128 needs to change his exit tag unless he wants to be mistaken for a troll
[23:46] <ScorpKing> intex: try sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get install -f sun-java6-jre
[23:46] <lee__> ok this sudo ls -l '/media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run'
[23:46] <genii> Anyhow, I need to leave in about 15 minutes. Maybe i'll just sit here and sip coffee/watch scroll a bit ;)
[23:46] <lee__> gives this ?-rwxr-xr-x 1 lee root 40335704 2007-10-16 05:22 /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run    ?
[23:46] <intex> Okay. I've already tried dpkg --configure -a, but not with the other thing after.
[23:47] <lee__> what ever tha means
[23:47] <lee__> i think i am going to use ubuntu...its freindlier and does what u tell it to do
[23:48] <lee__> tahts the only anoying thing aobut Kubuntu
[23:48] <lee__> is the comand structure
[23:48] <genii> lee__: OK: sudo chown root:root /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run      then try to run it again by alt-f2 then: kdesu /media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run
[23:48] <MoNsTeR> !fuse
[23:48] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[23:48] <intex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40998/
[23:49] <ScorpKing> !aptfix | intex
[23:49] <ubotu> intex: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:49] <ScorpKing> intex: try that as well. looking...
[23:49] <genii> lee__: Also i still need to know that command: uname -m            is reporting x86_64
[23:49] <lee__> sudo: chown/media/disk/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run: command not found..I know that this is a good file grrr
[23:49] <MoNsTeR> how do i veiw my windows harddrive
[23:50] <lee__> its just flat finding excuses not to run it
[23:50] <genii> lee__: space after chown, then root:root    then another space then the pathname
[23:50] <MoNsTeR> how do i veiw my windows harddrive
[23:50] <lee__> erggrr
[23:50] <lee__> ok
[23:50] <ScorpKing> !ntfs | MoNsTeR
[23:50] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[23:51] <genii> MoNsTeR: ubotu already gave you many links to read about that very subject
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> bug
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> cmd
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> fortune
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> fortunes.dat
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> gauge
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> google
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> kdeversion
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> mail
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> media
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> qurl
[23:51] <MoNsTeR> how do i veiw my windows harddrive
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> sayclip
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> sysinfo
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> uptime
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> weather
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> Hmmm, sorry. X_X
[23:51] <ScorpKing> !pastebin | purpleposeidon
[23:51] <ubotu> purpleposeidon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:51] <lee__> ok i am going to seriously mess it up to where I t will accept the comand
[23:51] <lee__> updating using the update
[23:51]  * genii smacks purpleposeidon
[23:51] <ScorpKing> lol
[23:52]  * purpleposeidon blames konversation
[23:52] <meeper> well, finally
[23:52] <lee__> ok I had enough with it finding reason now Iam going to make it work
[23:52] <MoNsTeR> ScorpKing: but they arent working
[23:53] <meeper> nvdia drivers working, fullscreen dvd playback working
[23:53] <atlfalcons866> !fragmentation
[23:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fragmentation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:53] <lee__> it did itlast time , I used the update-manager -d command and it worked once
[23:54] <ScorpKing> MoNsTeR: try this - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php
[23:55] <ScorpKing> intex: any luck?
[23:56] <genii> lee__: I'm finding it difficult to assist you when you try to improvise and can't report to me something like result of uname -r  which will tell us if you even downloaded the right version of the driver for the architecture of your machine
[23:56] <SteamMachine> Hi there.
[23:56]  * ScorpKing pass genii stronger cofee...
[23:56] <lee__> sorry Iam just flusterd ok trying that last comand line structure
[23:57] <lee__> waht I have been dooing is cutting and pasting the folder
[23:57] <genii> ScorpKing: Thanks...any aspirin around to go with that? ;)
[23:57] <lee__> I mean file into the terminal
[23:57] <SteamMachine> I'm attempting to upload images from a digital camera - Kodak EasyShare C530
[23:57]  * ScorpKing pass genii a box of aspirins...
[23:57] <lee__> I have a hard time when the comnad structres get to complicated
[23:58] <intex> Scorp: tried the apt-get -f install, and now my adept manager is all okay. I even think Java is up and running! Would you do me one last favor, then? =)
[23:58] <lee__> so I have been cutting and pasting
[23:58] <ScorpKing> lee__: relax and take it one thing at a time. ;)
[23:58] <ScorpKing> intex: sure...
[23:59] <feierfox> hey ho
[23:59] <atlfalcons866> will kde4 be in hardy heron
[23:59] <genii> lee__: Basically right now.. since we have made the file executable and it still won't run... an obvious thing to see is if your machine is using x86_64 which the driver is for.
[23:59] <feierfox> need an easy way to transcode AVI to DVD-Standard
[23:59] <ScorpKing> atlfalcons866: no
[23:59] <atlfalcons866> why
[23:59] <SteamMachine> Once I connect the camera, linux recognizes the camera, but it only ever gets to "11%" in the Konquerer progress bar.
[23:59] <intex> Would you tell me what I just did. I'm new to Linux, and I have no idea what the -f install was or the &&, or any of it. Just a quick explanation. I'm a quick learner.
[23:59] <ScorpKing> atlfalcons866: it's not done yet.
[23:59] <lee__> what I don't understand is if its the same kernal , as it is in ubuntu why does it do this?