| bfiller | lool: ping | 15:09 |
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| the_fish | lol | 15:10 |
| Ward1983 | i think that's a timeout | 15:10 |
| Ward1983 | :p | 15:10 |
| smagoun | Ward1983: If you do make any progress, please let us know. Ubuntu Mobile on other platforms like ARM is a frequent query | 15:10 |
| Ward1983 | smagoun, sure i will if things work out | 15:10 |
| lool | bfiller: pong | 15:11 |
| bfiller | lool: I built the hildon-desktop from bzr and tried it with the latest stuff from moblin. Seemed to have some problems. Was wondering if you have tested this at all.. | 15:12 |
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| Ward1983 | :-) | 19:00 |
| mfrey | HappyCamp: ping | 19:03 |
| HappyCamp | mfrey, | 19:03 |
| mfrey | HappyCamp: have you had any luck getting the bootsplash to work on a menlow device? | 19:04 |
| HappyCamp | I don't think I have tried that, rob_moblin may know more. | 19:04 |
| HappyCamp | I am not quite sure what you mean by bootsplash mfrey ? | 19:05 |
| mfrey | I mean usplash | 19:05 |
| mfrey | sorry | 19:05 |
| mfrey | the graphical boot progress | 19:05 |
| robr_ | and that works | 19:05 |
| robr_ | usplash works on a menlow | 19:05 |
| mfrey | I have never seen it work -- is there something special | 19:06 |
| mfrey | I have a crown beach | 19:06 |
| robr_ | at least with the kernel we have on moblin.org, i haven't tried the ubuntu kernel in a while | 19:06 |
| mfrey | I am using the ubuntu kernel | 19:06 |
| mfrey | Is there something needed in the kernel for this to work | 19:06 |
| HappyCamp | mfrey, for one thing, it will only work on an installed image. | 19:07 |
| HappyCamp | Will not work on LiveUSB. | 19:07 |
| robr_ | mfrey: i remember it was broken before and a bug was filed, i thought it was fixed...i'm having trouble remembering the root cause | 19:07 |
| mfrey | robr_: I think it was the VESA fb driver was not enabled -- which it now is | 19:08 |
| robr_ | HappyCamp is correct, it should only work when booting off the hard disk with the installed image, it's disabled in the usb live image | 19:08 |
| mfrey | I am using only an install image | 19:09 |
| robr_ | sounds like it's broken then with the ubuntu kernel :-( | 19:09 |
| mfrey | Any suggestions where I might look -- I would like to fix it | 19:09 |
| robr_ | usplash is called in the initramfs, i'd start there ... | 19:10 |
| robr_ | if i remember correctly from the discussion (maybe amitk could rember better), usplash shouldn't be using the kernel FB driver, it should be using it's own libvga calls | 19:11 |
| robr_ | i was under the impression that usplash's FB interface was broken | 19:13 |
| mfrey | ok -- so maybee the libvga stuff is missing | 19:14 |
| amitk | mfrey: I have a working usplash on my crownbeach | 19:14 |
| mfrey | amitk: Please tell me the magic | 19:15 |
| amitk | mfrey: Just installed the image created by image-creator | 19:16 |
| mfrey | amitk: me too and no usplash | 19:16 |
| amitk | mfrey: what kernel are you using? | 19:16 |
| mfrey | amitk: the ubuntu kernel not moblin | 19:16 |
| amitk | mfrey: I am updating my install now.. be back with the results | 19:20 |
| mfrey | amitk: thanks | 19:20 |
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| amitk | HappyCamp: http://www.moblin.org/apt/pool/main/g/galculator/galculator_1.2.5.2-2moblin2_lpia.deb 404 Not Found | 19:55 |
| HappyCamp | amitk, apt-get update? | 19:55 |
| amitk | HappyCamp: done it several times on the crownbeach... get the same error when trying to create a new target in image-creator | 19:56 |
| HappyCamp | amitk, rustyl has been making changes to galculator like crazy this morning. | 19:56 |
| agoliveira | HappyCamp: BTW, I did receive an email about galculator not being built on some internal intel machine. I wonder that's because my email is on the changelog? | 19:56 |
| HappyCamp | agoliveira, yeah, we fixed that :) | 19:56 |
| HappyCamp | amitk, current version is galculator_1.2.5.2-2moblin3_lpia.deb | 19:57 |
| HappyCamp | http://www.moblin.org/build-results/projects/galculator/lpia/ | 19:57 |
| amitk | lets try again | 19:57 |
| HappyCamp | http://www.moblin.org/apt/pool/main/g/galculator/ | 19:57 |
| agoliveira | HappyCamp: Cool. I just found that scary :) | 19:58 |
| agoliveira | Hmmm... geoclue actually works :) | 19:58 |
| amitk | HappyCamp: seems to be fixed now. I must've hit the repo at a unfortunate time | 19:59 |
| ian_brasil | agoliveira: cool, you are using geoclue...i think it rocks | 20:05 |
| agoliveira | ian_brasil: Just testing the bits I can for now. I wonder if I could make it work with a GPS module... I think I'm going to buy one. | 20:06 |
| ian_brasil | it relies on gpsd so i imagine so | 20:07 |
| ian_brasil | i think remember somewhere reading that gps is going to be built into the chip on MID...you know more about this? | 20:09 |
| * ian_brasil thinks this might have been a dream though | 20:16 | |
| agoliveira | ian_brasil: I vaguely recall something of the sorts but also don't know for sure. | 20:17 |
| ian_brasil | it is working in software i think...it gets hard to remember whether you read something somewhere or just thought about it somewhere | 20:20 |
| agoliveira | Maybe this one: http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/ :) | 20:23 |
| agoliveira | $479 ouch... | 20:24 |
| ian_brasil | that must have been it then! | 20:30 |
| * ian_brasil was worried he was smoking too much crack | 20:30 | |
| * agoliveira wonders if our Nokia friends can get one or two for a nice low price :) | 20:35 | |
| amitk | agoliveira: I am guessing that some might be available in the developer program, but it is just a guess. | 20:41 |
| Mithrandir | ooh, shiny. I need to get somebody to get me one of those. :-) | 20:45 |
| amitk | Mithrandir: why does the menlow image created by image-creator still contain linux-image-lpiacompat? | 20:46 |
| HappyCamp | Mithrandir, anybody else, is Nautilus the search in Gutsy? In top Nautilus is taking up 20% of my processor time. | 20:46 |
| smagoun | amitk: It's an fset bug; HappyCamp has a patch | 20:47 |
| amitk | cool | 20:47 |
| Mithrandir | amitk: I don't know, it shouldn't be. | 20:48 |
| Mithrandir | HappyCamp: no idea, it doesn't for me | 20:48 |
| HappyCamp | :( I am doing a big copy of files, and Nautilus is taking up all the processor time. So I thought maybe it was the search feature. | 20:49 |
| HappyCamp | Though I thought it was some kind of desktop manager or something. | 20:49 |
| smagoun | Nautilus is the file manager, isn't it? trackerd is the search-tool-from-hell | 20:49 |
| HappyCamp | smagoun, Mithrandir amitk I have committed the change the gets rid of linux-ume from menlow fset. | 20:51 |
| * agoliveira thinks trackerd is evil | 20:51 | |
| HappyCamp | You can get it via git at Moblin.org | 20:52 |
| HappyCamp | agoliveira, +1 | 20:52 |
| smagoun | HappyCamp: thanks much, that's a big help for us | 20:52 |
| HappyCamp | smagoun, hopefully I did it correctly :) | 20:53 |
| amitk | agoliveira: http://www.nseries.com/index.html#l=products,n810 if you want to see it in action | 20:53 |
| smagoun | HappyCamp: that's all I did, and it WFM | 20:53 |
| amitk | mfrey: confirmed that usplash not working. It was working before because of the moblin kernel | 20:53 |
| mfrey | amitk: ok -- that is what I thought | 20:54 |
| mfrey | amitk: I looked at the kernel config and did not see anything obvious | 20:54 |
| agoliveira | "This device is not avaiable in your country"... let me see, a high tech device that I can't buy here in Brazil... tell me something new. | 20:55 |
| smagoun | hey, it says the same thing for the USA | 20:55 |
| smagoun | so you're in good company :) | 20:55 |
| agoliveira | smagoun: In your case it's temporary as the device is not for sale yet (or not in stores at least). | 20:57 |
| Ward1983 | is there some sort of handwriting recognition in ubuntu-mobile? | 20:59 |
| Mithrandir | Ward1983: not yet | 21:00 |
| Ward1983 | Mithrandir, maybe cellwriter can be interesting then | 21:00 |
| Ward1983 | Mithrandir, works great with my wacom tablet | 21:00 |
| ian_brasil | seems like its using a gecko based browser...no more opera ! | 21:01 |
| agoliveira | ian_brasil: I was thiking about the same... | 21:02 |
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| guardian | Ward1983: my company develops handwriting recognition technology | 21:02 |
| amitk | ian_brasil: I can confirm that | 21:03 |
| Ward1983 | guardian, nice, anything for linux? | 21:03 |
| guardian | sure | 21:03 |
| Ward1983 | guardian, closed source, and not free i presume? | 21:03 |
| guardian | the main problem is somehow the lack of a generalized host for input methods | 21:03 |
| guardian | you presume well :( | 21:03 |
| guardian | i can't do much about this | 21:03 |
| Ward1983 | guardian, i know i'm not blaming you | 21:03 |
| guardian | and about the plugin host, there is scim, uim, xim, hildon input method | 21:04 |
| Mithrandir | guardian: hildon input method should fix that bit, I presume? | 21:04 |
| guardian | well not really at some point | 21:04 |
| Mithrandir | well, so there's not just one, but an array of them | 21:04 |
| agoliveira | amitk: I rather buy a device for a good price than get one in a developper's program. This way I don't feel obligated to develop software for it as my time is already short enough... | 21:04 |
| guardian | because hildon input method is a bridge to gtkim | 21:04 |
| guardian | so the application has to be gtk based, or wrapped by gtk | 21:04 |
| guardian | which is not the case for the moblin's browser for instance as far as i remember | 21:04 |
| guardian | but i did not build an image for weeks | 21:04 |
| amitk | true | 21:05 |
| ian_brasil | agoliveira: you are not obliged to develop software just make a donation to an open source foundation of your choice | 21:05 |
| agoliveira | ian_brasil: In that case, bring me one :) | 21:06 |
| guardian | Ward1983: i'm frustrated because it's fucking working well :) i have so much ndas on the back | 21:06 |
| ian_brasil | and obviously make some noise about the program, the device etc | 21:06 |
| Ward1983 | guardian, if your company sells it, then it better be good! lol | 21:06 |
| guardian | this afternoon at work we talked about general chat about handwriting recognition technology on the internet and it came out it's ok to tell someone's working on it out there :D | 21:06 |
| Ward1983 | working on? | 21:07 |
| guardian | well the technology is ready and integrated in many places | 21:07 |
| guardian | now it's just a matter of gui and writing a plugin to scim or xim or else | 21:08 |
| guardian | hildon has been done | 21:08 |
| Ward1983 | guardian, i googled it, i did not know about hildon | 21:08 |
| Ward1983 | guardian, looks good | 21:08 |
| Ward1983 | great that its open now | 21:11 |
| guardian | the hildon input method framework ? | 21:12 |
| * agoliveira is going to pick up the dog at the vet and torture the neighbors AKA pratice saxophone. | 21:12 | |
| Ward1983 | guardian, yes | 21:12 |
| guardian | well it's always good new stuff appears | 21:13 |
| guardian | i'm not sure it changes much things | 21:13 |
| Ward1983 | guardian, still its nice | 21:14 |
| guardian | sure | 21:14 |
| mfrey | amitk: Mithrandir guys I noticed that the usplash deb is not installed by default -- could this be part of the problem? | 21:14 |
| Inuka | robr, ping... | 22:39 |
| mawhalen | ToddBrandt: you on line? Can you call my work phone? | 23:25 |
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