[15:09] lool: ping [15:10] lol [15:10] i think that's a timeout [15:10] :p [15:10] Ward1983: If you do make any progress, please let us know. Ubuntu Mobile on other platforms like ARM is a frequent query [15:10] smagoun, sure i will if things work out [15:11] bfiller: pong [15:12] lool: I built the hildon-desktop from bzr and tried it with the latest stuff from moblin. Seemed to have some problems. Was wondering if you have tested this at all.. === matt_c is now known as matt_cake === Inuka_ is now known as Inuka [19:00] :-) [19:03] HappyCamp: ping [19:03] mfrey, [19:04] HappyCamp: have you had any luck getting the bootsplash to work on a menlow device? [19:04] I don't think I have tried that, rob_moblin may know more. [19:05] I am not quite sure what you mean by bootsplash mfrey ? [19:05] I mean usplash [19:05] sorry [19:05] the graphical boot progress [19:05] and that works [19:05] usplash works on a menlow [19:06] I have never seen it work -- is there something special [19:06] I have a crown beach [19:06] at least with the kernel we have on moblin.org, i haven't tried the ubuntu kernel in a while [19:06] I am using the ubuntu kernel [19:06] Is there something needed in the kernel for this to work [19:07] mfrey, for one thing, it will only work on an installed image. [19:07] Will not work on LiveUSB. [19:07] mfrey: i remember it was broken before and a bug was filed, i thought it was fixed...i'm having trouble remembering the root cause [19:08] robr_: I think it was the VESA fb driver was not enabled -- which it now is [19:08] HappyCamp is correct, it should only work when booting off the hard disk with the installed image, it's disabled in the usb live image [19:09] I am using only an install image [19:09] sounds like it's broken then with the ubuntu kernel :-( [19:09] Any suggestions where I might look -- I would like to fix it [19:10] usplash is called in the initramfs, i'd start there ... [19:11] if i remember correctly from the discussion (maybe amitk could rember better), usplash shouldn't be using the kernel FB driver, it should be using it's own libvga calls [19:13] i was under the impression that usplash's FB interface was broken [19:14] ok -- so maybee the libvga stuff is missing [19:14] mfrey: I have a working usplash on my crownbeach [19:15] amitk: Please tell me the magic [19:16] mfrey: Just installed the image created by image-creator [19:16] amitk: me too and no usplash [19:16] mfrey: what kernel are you using? [19:16] amitk: the ubuntu kernel not moblin [19:20] mfrey: I am updating my install now.. be back with the results [19:20] amitk: thanks === cprov is now known as cprov-out [19:55] HappyCamp: http://www.moblin.org/apt/pool/main/g/galculator/galculator_1.2.5.2-2moblin2_lpia.deb 404 Not Found [19:55] amitk, apt-get update? [19:56] HappyCamp: done it several times on the crownbeach... get the same error when trying to create a new target in image-creator [19:56] amitk, rustyl has been making changes to galculator like crazy this morning. [19:56] HappyCamp: BTW, I did receive an email about galculator not being built on some internal intel machine. I wonder that's because my email is on the changelog? [19:56] agoliveira, yeah, we fixed that :) [19:57] amitk, current version is galculator_1.2.5.2-2moblin3_lpia.deb [19:57] http://www.moblin.org/build-results/projects/galculator/lpia/ [19:57] lets try again [19:57] http://www.moblin.org/apt/pool/main/g/galculator/ [19:58] HappyCamp: Cool. I just found that scary :) [19:58] Hmmm... geoclue actually works :) [19:59] HappyCamp: seems to be fixed now. I must've hit the repo at a unfortunate time [20:05] agoliveira: cool, you are using geoclue...i think it rocks [20:06] ian_brasil: Just testing the bits I can for now. I wonder if I could make it work with a GPS module... I think I'm going to buy one. [20:07] it relies on gpsd so i imagine so [20:09] i think remember somewhere reading that gps is going to be built into the chip on MID...you know more about this? [20:16] * ian_brasil thinks this might have been a dream though [20:17] ian_brasil: I vaguely recall something of the sorts but also don't know for sure. [20:20] it is working in software i think...it gets hard to remember whether you read something somewhere or just thought about it somewhere [20:23] Maybe this one: http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/ :) [20:24] $479 ouch... [20:30] that must have been it then! [20:30] * ian_brasil was worried he was smoking too much crack [20:35] * agoliveira wonders if our Nokia friends can get one or two for a nice low price :) [20:41] agoliveira: I am guessing that some might be available in the developer program, but it is just a guess. [20:45] ooh, shiny. I need to get somebody to get me one of those. :-) [20:46] Mithrandir: why does the menlow image created by image-creator still contain linux-image-lpiacompat? [20:46] Mithrandir, anybody else, is Nautilus the search in Gutsy? In top Nautilus is taking up 20% of my processor time. [20:47] amitk: It's an fset bug; HappyCamp has a patch [20:47] cool [20:48] amitk: I don't know, it shouldn't be. [20:48] HappyCamp: no idea, it doesn't for me [20:49] :( I am doing a big copy of files, and Nautilus is taking up all the processor time. So I thought maybe it was the search feature. [20:49] Though I thought it was some kind of desktop manager or something. [20:49] Nautilus is the file manager, isn't it? trackerd is the search-tool-from-hell [20:51] smagoun, Mithrandir amitk I have committed the change the gets rid of linux-ume from menlow fset. [20:51] * agoliveira thinks trackerd is evil [20:52] You can get it via git at Moblin.org [20:52] agoliveira, +1 [20:52] HappyCamp: thanks much, that's a big help for us [20:53] smagoun, hopefully I did it correctly :) [20:53] agoliveira: http://www.nseries.com/index.html#l=products,n810 if you want to see it in action [20:53] HappyCamp: that's all I did, and it WFM [20:53] mfrey: confirmed that usplash not working. It was working before because of the moblin kernel [20:54] amitk: ok -- that is what I thought [20:54] amitk: I looked at the kernel config and did not see anything obvious [20:55] "This device is not avaiable in your country"... let me see, a high tech device that I can't buy here in Brazil... tell me something new. [20:55] hey, it says the same thing for the USA [20:55] so you're in good company :) [20:57] smagoun: In your case it's temporary as the device is not for sale yet (or not in stores at least). [20:59] is there some sort of handwriting recognition in ubuntu-mobile? [21:00] Ward1983: not yet [21:00] Mithrandir, maybe cellwriter can be interesting then [21:00] Mithrandir, works great with my wacom tablet [21:01] seems like its using a gecko based browser...no more opera ! [21:02] ian_brasil: I was thiking about the same... === cprov-out is now known as cprov [21:02] Ward1983: my company develops handwriting recognition technology [21:03] ian_brasil: I can confirm that [21:03] guardian, nice, anything for linux? [21:03] sure [21:03] guardian, closed source, and not free i presume? [21:03] the main problem is somehow the lack of a generalized host for input methods [21:03] you presume well :( [21:03] i can't do much about this [21:03] guardian, i know i'm not blaming you [21:04] and about the plugin host, there is scim, uim, xim, hildon input method [21:04] guardian: hildon input method should fix that bit, I presume? [21:04] well not really at some point [21:04] well, so there's not just one, but an array of them [21:04] amitk: I rather buy a device for a good price than get one in a developper's program. This way I don't feel obligated to develop software for it as my time is already short enough... [21:04] because hildon input method is a bridge to gtkim [21:04] so the application has to be gtk based, or wrapped by gtk [21:04] which is not the case for the moblin's browser for instance as far as i remember [21:04] but i did not build an image for weeks [21:05] true [21:05] agoliveira: you are not obliged to develop software just make a donation to an open source foundation of your choice [21:06] ian_brasil: In that case, bring me one :) [21:06] Ward1983: i'm frustrated because it's fucking working well :) i have so much ndas on the back [21:06] and obviously make some noise about the program, the device etc [21:06] guardian, if your company sells it, then it better be good! lol [21:06] this afternoon at work we talked about general chat about handwriting recognition technology on the internet and it came out it's ok to tell someone's working on it out there :D [21:07] working on? [21:07] well the technology is ready and integrated in many places [21:08] now it's just a matter of gui and writing a plugin to scim or xim or else [21:08] hildon has been done [21:08] guardian, i googled it, i did not know about hildon [21:08] guardian, looks good [21:11] great that its open now [21:12] the hildon input method framework ? [21:12] * agoliveira is going to pick up the dog at the vet and torture the neighbors AKA pratice saxophone. [21:12] guardian, yes [21:13] well it's always good new stuff appears [21:13] i'm not sure it changes much things [21:14] guardian, still its nice [21:14] sure [21:14] amitk: Mithrandir guys I noticed that the usplash deb is not installed by default -- could this be part of the problem? [22:39] robr, ping... [23:25] ToddBrandt: you on line? Can you call my work phone? === Inuka_ is now known as Inuka