| fernando | is right /etc/ca-certificates.conf deactive all entries by default? | 15:57 |
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| bddebian | ruffleS: Then you are on your own unfortunately, we can't help you. Sorry. | 19:03 |
| norsetto | rufleS: well, any reason not to use the feisty package you have? | 19:03 |
| ruffleS | norsetto, 'cuz it doesn't work on gutsy, the kernel module won't load | 19:04 |
| Schnitz_ | Hobbsee: thanks for the hint | 19:04 |
| ruffleS | bddebian, thanks anyway | 19:04 |
| ruffleS | i'll try to figure out something | 19:04 |
| bddebian | ruffleS: Did you ask around in #ubuntu? | 19:05 |
| ruffleS | not yet | 19:05 |
| norsetto | ruffleS: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/488 | 19:06 |
| ruffleS | norsetto, yeah i've seen that already | 19:07 |
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| YokoZar | SRUs are the "updates" repository right? | 20:29 |
| Kmos | YokoZar: yes | 20:30 |
| ScottK | YokoZar: Yes. How's Wine looking? | 20:31 |
| YokoZar | ScottK: I found I'm missing a lib compiled in on 64 bit :( | 20:31 |
| YokoZar | So the 64 bit package is built without libxml support | 20:32 |
| YokoZar | I'm testing a rebuild with hand-linking it on my machine now. | 20:32 |
| sistpoty | hi folks | 20:34 |
| ScottK | YokoZar: We can push stuff to gutsy-proposed now so it gets out in gutsy-updates as quickly as possible. | 20:34 |
| ScottK | hi sistpoty | 20:34 |
| sistpoty | hi ScottK | 20:35 |
| norsetto | sistpoty: hi there | 20:42 |
| sistpoty | keescook: just stumbled over LP bug #64373. revu already contains code for this problem ;) | 20:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 64373 in launchpad "[wishlist] download gpg keyring for a team" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64373 | 20:42 |
| sistpoty | hi norsetto | 20:43 |
| norsetto | how is it scottk? | 20:44 |
| YokoZar | ScottK: can I move it up to Wine 0.9.47 then? | 20:46 |
| YokoZar | ScottK: or should I keep it at 0.9.46 and save the later versions for backports? | 20:47 |
| ScottK | Keep it at 0.9.46 and keep 0.9.47 for backports (We'll upload it to Hardy as soon as the repos open and then backport it). | 20:48 |
| geser | YokoZar: I don't know if wine has a special rule but new versions don't get included in -updates | 20:48 |
| ScottK | hey norsetto. Trying to squash bugs in something I'm upstream for. | 20:49 |
| ScottK | The good news is I got a new user who's very "detail oriented". The bad news is I got work to do. | 20:49 |
| norsetto | scottk: hehe | 20:49 |
| keescook | sistpoty: heh, cool. :) | 20:53 |
| sistpoty | keescook: well, revu needs the keyring of ubuntu-universe-contributors to check if a source package should get accepted. I'm not sure how messy the code is though :P | 20:53 |
| keescook | yeah, I figure it just does a fetch from the keyserver. | 20:54 |
| sistpoty | keescook: iirc, yes... the revu-key script called with update is the entry point to follow what the current hacked up revu does ;) | 20:55 |
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| ajmitch | good morning | 21:14 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 21:14 |
| geser | Hi ajmitch | 21:14 |
| sistpoty | hi ajmitch, bddebian and geser | 21:15 |
| pochu | hi ajmitch, bddebian, geser ans sistpoty :) | 21:15 |
| bddebian | Heya sistpoty | 21:15 |
| bddebian | and pochu | 21:15 |
| sistpoty | hi pochu | 21:15 |
| geser | Hi pochu | 21:15 |
| * ajmitch should not start off an avalanche of greetings | 21:18 | |
| zul | hey ajmitch | 21:24 |
| sistpoty | yay, light bulb burned, fuse went out :( | 21:28 |
| jdong | sistpoty: does that mean ntfs-3g stopped working? | 21:39 |
| * jdong ducks | 21:39 | |
| bddebian | heh | 21:40 |
| sistpoty | jdong: ntfs-3g? no... it meant rather that my gf's laptop was still on, while my box was off... the usual "damn, I did s.th. wrong when studying computer science" kind of feeling ;) | 21:40 |
| jdong | bddebian: I am the king of bad puns :) | 21:41 |
| sistpoty | lucas: seems like mdt is broken, or am I using the wrong url (your people.debian.org adress)? | 21:52 |
| Schnitz | how can i specify if a package is in multiverse or universe when i create it? | 22:03 |
| Schnitz | i've searched with google and the wiki and tried grep -ir universe/multiverse but couldn't find anything | 22:04 |
| sistpoty | Schnitz: usually it get's set by the archive admins based on the details specified in debian/copyright. but I guess you can give hints by setting the section field of control to multiverse/$section. | 22:05 |
| sistpoty | (though I'm only guessing here as this field can definitely be overrided by an archive admin | 22:05 |
| sistpoty | +) | 22:05 |
| Schnitz | okay i've packaged something and uploaded it to my ppa and now it doesn't build there because it requires a package from multiverse | 22:06 |
| Schnitz | i thought i could specify that somewhere when creating the source package...thanks for your hint | 22:06 |
| sistpoty | Schnitz: for ppa, I believe the control file I mentioned is responsible, though I'm not too sure there | 22:08 |
| sistpoty | Schnitz: you could ask in #launchpad though, or try searching the launchpad-user mailing list, as I'm sure this was discussed before | 22:09 |
| geser | Schnitz: when you need build-depends from universe add "universe/" to your section | 22:09 |
| geser | this should also work for multiverse but I don't know if ppa supports multiverse (see the ppa terms) | 22:10 |
| lamego | I think it does not | 22:14 |
| pochu | lamego: I think it does :) | 22:14 |
| pochu | From a discussion in #launchpad some days ago. | 22:15 |
| geser | is gutsy-proposed already available? | 22:15 |
| lamego | I am based on the welcome to launchpad doc, but, I did a quick reading at that time | 22:16 |
| lamego | welcome to PPA, I mean | 22:16 |
| sistpoty | pochu: but it would be a license violation to upload anything to the multiverse section to ppa then? seems like easy sueable targets for me :P | 22:16 |
| pochu | sistpoty: well, you can have a package which is GPL, but needs something from multiverse to build? Your package will still be GPL, just deppending on a library from multiverse? | 22:18 |
| lamego | if it the resulting binaries installation requires multiverse packages, I guess that could be a legal issue | 22:19 |
| sistpoty | pochu: I guess that's a corner case though... and actually I was kidding a little bit ;) | 22:20 |
| pochu | lamego: why? you are still able to distribute it, aren't you? | 22:21 |
| ScottK | We do have packages like that in the repository. zekr for one if FOSS, but depends on stuff in multiverse, so is doomed to live there too. | 22:21 |
| lamego | pochu, if it drives an user to do something illegal, without warning him, I am doing something illegal, I guess | 22:22 |
| lamego | but well, I am not a lawyer :) | 22:22 |
| pochu | lamego: sorry, what's illegal there? | 22:22 |
| pochu | lamego: neither am I ;) | 22:22 |
| soren | hansin: If not, python-flup is probably the answer to your prayers. | 22:23 |
| ScottK | multiverse stuff is legally distributable, just has other restrictions on it. | 22:23 |
| lamego | there are multiverse packages, which do violate patents in some countries, correct ? | 22:23 |
| soren | What the.. | 22:23 |
| pochu | lamego: well, I just said the use of multiverse/ is supported. Nothing else :) | 22:23 |
| pochu | lamego: and not always. Those are special cases, afaik. | 22:23 |
| lamego | pochu, right, but distributing those binaries depending on universe packages, without a proper warning may not be supported, for legal reasons | 22:25 |
| lamego | ops, multiverse | 22:25 |
| pochu | Dunno. But since you aren't shipping that package... | 22:26 |
| lamego | pochu, not always, but some, do, on some countries, at least they are tagged on the software sources as "Restricted by copyright or legal issues" ;) | 22:26 |
| lamego | "You agree to indemnify and hold Canonical Ltd, and its subsidiaries, affiliates, officers, agents, partners, and employees, harmless from any alleged claim or" | 22:28 |
| lamego | I am not going to use PPAs :) | 22:28 |
| pochu | heh | 22:29 |
| ScottK | lamego: That's one thing we agree on. | 22:30 |
| ScottK | lamego: See Bug 137447 | 22:30 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 137447 in soyuz "PPA Terms of Service one sided" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137447 | 22:30 |
| sistpoty | damn, I didn't want to start a holy war :P ... but anyways I'm off to bed now, gn8 everyone | 22:32 |
| lamego | I will go a bit further, I think Canonical should provide legal advice for those which may need to upload a software for which the legal status is unclear | 22:34 |
| norsetto | night all | 22:55 |
| Jazzva | I prepared two bugfixes in gnome-schedule. Both bugs are reported. Can I upload them as a single diff, or do I have to separte them? | 23:41 |
| TheMuso | Jazzva: Are they for the same package? | 23:43 |
| Jazzva | TheMuso: Yep. It's just that they're two distinct bugs. I suppose I could add two lines in changelogs with both LP bug numbers. I'm just not sure if that's the right way... | 23:45 |
| TheMuso | Jazzva: Yes, one diff with both bug fixes mentioned in the changelog is fine. | 23:50 |
| Jazzva | TheMuso: Thanks :)... | 23:50 |
| TheMuso | np | 23:51 |
| Jazzva | Another question: One of them has been fixed upstream, but the new version is still not in the repositories. Can I provide the bugfix that will fix the version in the repositories? | 23:51 |
| TheMuso | Yes I guess you could, but since its a gnome package, you may want to consult the desktop team about that. | 23:52 |
| Jazzva | TheMuso: Ok... thanks again :). | 23:52 |
| TheMuso | np | 23:52 |
| knix | When is eclipse goin gto be updated to 3.3? | 23:53 |
| ajmitch | knix: when hardy is being developed, it won't happen for gutsy | 23:54 |
| ajmitch | there may be a slim chance of it getting into gutsy-backports | 23:54 |
| knix | Yea I didn't expect it to happen in a day :P | 23:54 |
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