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frank__drunken-wallaby: there was no recording scheduled at the channel it switched to?15:54
drunken-wallabyfrank__ no, i extra checked this. there are no recordings scheduled at all....15:55
DaveMorrisDiggThis: what do you mean by reverse dvd sybmbolic links?15:55
DaveMorrisbug #4551815:55
tgm4883DaveMorris, seems like it's missing a number15:55
DaveMorrisyeah, it looks short15:56
DaveMorrisdrunken-wallaby: does it give you a grey screen with a 30 second count down?15:56
frank__DaveMorris: DiggThis, you mean point /dev/dvd somewhere else?15:56
drunken-wallabyDaveMorris no, it just switches channel (or probably tuner, i'm not sure) just as if i were changing channels manually15:56
directhex|workit's not mythbuntu related at all, but i wanted to rely on ubotu to make life easier :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/4551815:57
tgm4883!4551815:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 45518 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:57
DaveMorris!bug #115:58
directhex|workubotu, you suck15:58
tgm4883interesting, so ubotu isn't looking for bugs anymore15:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you suck - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:58
DaveMorrisbug #115:58
DaveMorris#115:58
tgm4883#4551815:58
tgm4883bug 4551815:58
tgm4883bug 13716715:59
tgm4883hmm15:59
DaveMorrisdrunken-wallaby: I'm not sure then, I've never seen that before, your not pressing anything on the laptop either?15:59
tgm4883drunken-wallaby, you've checked the frontend logs and the backend logs?16:00
drunken-wallabyDaveMorris. no, i've a dedicated mythbox. remotecontrol and keyboard of the mythbox are at least 5 metres away from me.... and i've no clue how to debug this....16:00
tgm4883does it always happen?16:00
drunken-wallabytgm4883 i did check both log-files but i didn't find anything that caught my eyes...16:01
DaveMorriscan you paste bin the frontend/backend logs16:01
DaveMorris!pastebin16:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)16:01
tgm4883bug 13716716:01
drunken-wallabytgm4883 hard to say, 3 times over the last 3 hours or so, but not regulary.16:01
drunken-wallabyok, i'll post the logs....16:01
DiggThissorry yes point dvd somewhere else cause in mythtv the dvd drives seem to be reversed16:03
DiggThishow do i restore natural order?16:03
drunken-wallabyfrontend log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40944/16:10
drunken-wallabybackend log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40945/16:10
DaveMorrisdrunken-wallaby: when did it happen ~ in your time zone?16:13
DaveMorrissolarbaby: superm1 has finshed the lirc for gutsy now, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Gutsy it might be helpful for you19:00
superm1_yeah it doesn't reflect anything on usb-uirt that solarbaby has discovered, that stuff will be merged in after he gets it in the forums19:01
DaveMorrisoh ok19:01
solarbabyIm still working on my post19:16
solarbabyit'll be done very soon19:16
=== superm1_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv :: Mythbuntu 7.10 Release Candidate Released :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com :: See http://www.mythbuntu.org/support for support information"
solarbabysuperm1_: should i leave out the howto on using a free scraper for tvlistings.zap2it.com?19:24
solarbabysuperm1_: Im cheap..  I didn't wanna pay until I know for sure I want to use Myth.. hehe19:25
superm1_solarbaby, i haven't heard of such things.  what is the take of posting it on the regular mythtv-users mailing list?19:25
solarbabywant to see it?19:25
superm1_i dont want to immediately shoot down the idea of it, but would probably prefer to use their preference on postings19:25
superm1_also though, i don't want to jeapordize us being on bad terms with schedules direct19:25
superm1_sure put it in a pastebin for now19:26
solarbabyIf I post this, my directions are so easy to get free listings people will most likely never pay19:26
superm1_yeah i would say don't then19:26
solarbabyOk good point I will keep this howto to myself when it comes to EPG19:26
superm1_if anything put it on your own personal blog19:26
superm1_but i'd prefer to keep it out of the forums in that case19:26
solarbabyI dont have a personal blog but ya..  I use this for myself19:26
solarbabyI agree with you19:27
solarbabywant it?19:27
superm1_i'll look at it, i'm curious to see what's involved19:27
superm1_but i'm going to keep paying for SD either way myself :)19:27
solarbabyIm just poor19:28
* DaveMorris uses the EIT19:38
solarbabywhere do I find our help forums?20:20
solarbabyI've got some posting to do20:20
DaveMorris$forums20:21
mythbotAlthough I didn't know, ubotu says: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.20:21
solarbabyThanks Dave20:21
DaveMorrishttp://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=30120:21
DaveMorris$url20:21
mythbothttp://zbanks.mine.nu/myth20:21
DaveMorris$owner20:22
mythbotAlthough I didn't know, ubotu says: This bot is owned & operated by Seveas. For questions/requests/comments, join #ubuntu-bots20:22
solarbabyI thought our help forums would be UbuntuMyth or something like that20:22
DaveMorristherethinker: is this bot yours?20:22
Dr_willisDarn it - The cable company i think rearranged the channels20:33
Dr_willisNow i got Lifetime recording when it should be recording Cartoonnetwork. :(20:33
therethinkerDaveMorris: mythbuntu is mine20:41
therethinker*mythbot20:42
DaveMorrisok, I can't access the site to set new defintions20:46
=== mdmcmull is now known as mobian
mobianls20:52
mobianhey all, trying to figure out why the screensaver comes on while watching videos. Is there some way to stop that ?20:52
mobianI disabled it completely in xfce4's settings, but that's not the ideal solution... anyone else seen this behavior ?20:53
solarbabyNope20:53
solarbabybut my install is as default as they come20:53
solarbabyI haven't ever seen the screensaver go on while watching a movie20:54
solarbabyso thats just weird20:54
mobiandoes the screensaver come on when expected (e.g. not watching tv) ?20:54
solarbabyyeah20:54
mobianok, I did tweak a few things in how it logs in when first booting up, so maybe I broke something there :).  I'll try it out with a default setup20:55
solarbabyand thats why my setup is as default as possibel20:55
mobian:-)20:55
solarbabyI just got done writing up some docs from this perspective20:55
solarbabynow that all the note taking is done, I too will start screwing around20:56
mobianalright, going to put it back to the default and see if problems go away.  thanks.20:56
solarbabywish I had more to say about that20:57
solarbabygood luck20:57
therethinkerHmm... dyndns kicked me for some reason -- I can't login, and theres no record of me...20:58
solarbabyI use no-ip.com20:58
therethinkerI don't like them... Dyndns is really great20:59
therethinkerI've used them for 2 years... haven't had a problem till now20:59
solarbabyI used no-ip.com because I had a readily available script for my nslue2 for redirection and updates21:00
therethinkerI dont think no-ip.com forwards all ports and allows wildcards21:00
solarbabyIm not really sure..  I know they will do email servers and stuff21:00
therethinkerDyndns has a script to... Plus I don't need it for dynamic dns21:00
solarbabyall I need from them is port 2221:00
therethinkerI just... am cheap :P21:00
solarbabyand they do that21:00
solarbabyim cheap too21:01
therethinkerWell, what I mean is, I'm using the free domains rather than buying a domain21:02
DaveMorrisI use no-ip.com without a problem21:03
therethinkerThey're tons better than 1&1 -- I registered a domain from them and I couldn't use it...21:03
therethinkerI remembered I tried no-ip.com, and I had a trouble with it...21:04
DaveMorrismobian: watching videos using an external player?21:04
therethinkerI forget what it was...21:04
solarbabyI dont demand much from it.. its there when I need it21:06
therethinkerYeah, DynDNS is great, again I've used it for 2 years without any problem.21:09
mobianno, actually watching recordings (or videos or DVD) using internal player21:16
mobianI'm trying to create a new user and have it autologin with that user on the off chance I mucked with one too many settings21:16
DaveMorrisBug #14790521:21
DaveMorrishttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/14790521:21
DaveMorrisubuto is broke21:21
solarbabySquish the Bug Dead21:21
DaveMorrismobian: that was for you21:21
solarbabyHe must have found your bug21:22
mobianah, i'll take a look at that right now, thanks DaveMorris21:22
therethinkerWow, Dyndns got back to me in... under 10 minutes21:23
DaveMorrisand the problem?21:24
therethinkerInactivity...21:25
DaveMorriseasy to get sorted?21:27
therethinkerYeah :P21:28
mobianbut wait, that bug DaveMorris mentioned looks like it says Xscreensaver doesn't work with mythfrontend. Doesn't mythbuntu use gnome-screensaver as well ?21:33
mobianso no one else has any screensaver issues I take it ?21:33
MythbuntuGuest38is there a gutsy weekly build for mythtv yet?21:33
DaveMorrismobian: Do you know which one is been launched?  As the default for xfce is Xscreensaver21:35
DaveMorrisand mythbuntu uses xfce21:35
DaveMorris$wiki21:38
DaveMorris$bugs21:38
mobianDaveMorris, I had assumed it was gnome-screensaver because under the "Screensaver Settings" it looked exactly like gnome-screensaver and not xscreensaver, but let me double check21:40
mobianyeah, did a "ps aux | grep screensaver" and gnome-screensaver is running21:41
superm1mobian, are you doing mythbuntu, or Ubuntu+mythtv?21:41
mobianmythbuntu21:42
superm1did you install from beta, rc or which?21:42
mobiani originally installed from beta, but have done upgrades through the update manager21:42
mobianShould I do a dist-upgrade or something ?21:42
superm1and these come up during mplayer i'm guessing21:43
mobianscreensaver comes on when watching any recordings, videos, or dvd. I am using the internal player in mythfrontend, not vlc or mplayer21:44
superm1well that shouldn't be occurring.21:44
superm1can you check /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log?21:45
superm1and make sure there is a line about gnome screensaver turning on21:45
mobianhrm, that's odd. I don't have a /var/log/mythtv directory. I do remember seeing an error about that when mythfrontend started21:45
mobianlet me create one, and restart mythfrontend and see what it says21:46
superm1umm.21:46
superm1you can't have a functional box without one21:46
superm1unless you deleted it yourself21:46
superm1it is there by default21:46
mobianno, i did not delete21:46
mobiani have two separate frontend-only boxes21:46
mobianlet me see if the other one has that directory21:46
superm1oh i see.21:46
mobianyeah, neither frontend only box have that directory.21:47
mobianthey probably should though right ?21:47
superm1well that appears to be an oversight in our packaging21:47
superm1ah yes.21:47
superm1its made by mythbackend's package21:47
mobianah, ok21:47
superm1didn't consider that it might be needed for frontend to log there too21:47
superm1look in /tmp21:48
superm1it falls back to that21:48
mobianah, yeah, I see the log there21:48
mobianinteresting, nothing in the logs about gnome-screensaver or screensaver at all21:49
mobiani was under impression that it was xfce that was starting it up21:49
superm1it is21:49
superm1xfce does start it up21:49
mobianoh, but myth should log that event or detect it ?21:49
superm1here is what you should see21:49
superm1um er hold on a sec.21:50
superm1well i thought it was supposed to say something about it, but i'm not seeing it in my frontend log either21:51
DaveMorrislet m check mine21:51
* DaveMorris is running edgy with no logs21:52
superm1well mine used to put it out in the log, that's odd that it doesn't anymore21:53
superm1ohhh21:53
superm1that's why21:53
superm1it shows up in ~/.xsession-errors21:53
superm12007-10-17 15:52:35.337 Gnome-Screensaver support enabled21:53
superm1is what you will see21:53
mobianYes, I do see that there21:54
mobianLogging to /tmp/mythwelcome.5196.log instead21:55
mobian2007-10-17 15:42:02.075 Using runtime prefix = /usr21:55
mobian2007-10-17 15:42:02.123 Gnome-Screensaver support enabled21:55
mobian2007-10-17 15:42:02.124 DPMS is active.21:55
superm1you are using mythwelcome?21:55
mobianno, not sure why it says that.....21:55
mobianIn fact in /var/log I have a "mythfrontend.5196.log"21:56
superm1that could be laga's fault with a typo in logging to that file21:56
superm1but in any which case21:56
superm1gnome screensaver support is enabled21:56
mobianok, so I'm using Gnome-Screensaver, so it *should* work21:56
superm1mobian, can you file a bug about the logging against the mythtv package in ubuntu?21:59
superm1that way we remember to address that in hardy21:59
superm1just list where you have all of your logs showing up21:59
superm1and such21:59
MythbuntuGuest58hi. i was wondering if any of you could make a recommendation as to what TV tuner to buy for a fresh (and first-time) deployment of mythbuntu22:00
superm1$spec22:01
superm1$specs22:01
superm1oh no mythbot.22:01
superm1http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57020422:01
mobiansuperm1, certainly, I'll file a bug about it22:02
superm1thanks mobian22:02
superm1as for your screensaver issue, i'm not sure, you're the only one that has encountered it22:02
superm1for now, i'd say just turn up the screensaver to like 90 min22:02
mobianperhaps because i'm using frontend only ? Or are others doing that too ?22:02
superm1until you can sort it out22:02
superm1well i use frontend only22:02
superm1and mine works as expected22:02
mobianhrm, ok.  Any point in doing a fresh install (not like it's gentoo afterall, it'll install reasonably quickly) ?22:03
superm1it's gotta be some little idiosyncrasy22:03
superm1mobian, sure: but let me point you at a newer iso then22:03
superm1that has more of the apt updates in it22:03
superm1http://uk.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/~superm1/mythbuntu-7.10-071016-i386.iso22:04
mobianOK, yeah, let me use the latest, that'll be great22:04
superm1it's also got our new theme22:04
superm1mobian, as seen here: http://www.mythbuntu.org/node/9422:04
mobianoh sweet, that looks nice!!22:05
superm1yeah the only differences between rc and final are going to be the rest of the ubuntu archive's apt updates, that theme, and a bug fix for xmltv users22:05
mobianyou don't by chance have an amd64 iso do you ?22:05
superm1no sorry, generating one is more of a pain, so we only do them at releases.22:05
superm1eg alphaX, beta, rc, final22:06
mobianno problem22:06
mobianactually, I think I installed using the beta one and not the rc -- but should a normal "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" keep me up to date with what's in rc ?22:07
superm1well it *should*22:09
mobianoh well, I'll just download the amd64-rc version and try the live cd22:09
superm1that theme that we are using for the final actually won't be in the ubuntu archive22:09
superm1so the only way to get it will be a manual install of the deb or off the final cd22:10
superm1since we put it in after the archives froze22:10
mobianthat's cool, I can always manually install it22:10
superm1mobian, http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu_0.20071015~ppa2_all.deb22:20
superm1is the link to it22:20
solarbabysuperm1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3552425#post355242522:30
superm1solarbaby, looks good, but i might make a recommendation22:31
superm1if you put the different code pieces in [CODE] [/CODE] blocks22:31
superm1so that it is more readable22:31
solarbabysuperm1: do you have the ability to edit my post?22:31
superm1solarbaby, yeah i do, but i'd prefer you learned how to do it yourself, so in the future you make very readable posts too :)22:32
solarbabysuperm1: hehehe22:32
superm1(you can edit your own posts still)22:32
solarbabysuperm1: point taken22:32
solarbabysuperm1: now that everything works, I need to find a new hobby22:33
superm1solarbaby, you can help us work on making everything easier if you'd like to join development efforts :)22:33
solarbabysuperm1: im not that smart, Im just determind22:33
superm1don't need to be smart about all this stuff, there are tons of areas we can use help in22:34
solarbabysuperm1: but Im glad to be a part of this circle..  and I may from time to time pick things that interest me22:34
superm1if you are good with artwork or even have ideas for what else we need22:34
superm1or documentation, or anything, if you want something to work on, we can give you something :)22:34
solarbabysuperm1: sounds good to me..  this is the best pvr i've ever seen..  its only missing 1 little thing..  TheTVDB.com to compliment IMDB.com22:35
solarbabyIf I was much of a scripter I'd try to attack that one22:36
superm1what's that?22:36
solarbabysuperm1: It's kind of like Schedules Direct in the way that it sends you data.. you do not need a scraper to use their database to look up show information and download it22:37
solarbabythey are specificly a TV.COM replacement..22:37
solarbabyand they are free22:37
* DaveMorris isn't smart and manages to get some of the credit22:37
solarbabyand awesome..  I have 20 Full TV Shows that used their database to give me all the Show Info.. Its great22:37
* rhpot1991 got the ipodexport script working with ubuntu22:38
superm1solarbaby, ah sounds like a very neat project22:38
solarbabyDave your pretty cool22:38
solarbabysuperm1: it's great..  I use it with my xbox22:38
solarbabysuperm1: its the only thing MythTV needs according to me22:39
superm1solarbaby, well if you want to write a spec, if someone who does development with us wants to take it up22:39
superm1they can22:39
solarbabysuperm1: I'll do that22:41
rhpot1991what does everyone do about shows starting/ending a few seconds off?22:41
tgm4883rhpot1991, deal with it?22:41
hugolprhpot1991:  set mythtv to record 3 minutes in advance and 10 minutes after every show22:41
hugolprhpot1991:  its in the settings22:42
tgm4883rhpot1991, get multiple tuners22:42
hugolpand mythtv does it automatically22:42
DaveMorrissolarbaby: you can write specs at $blueprints22:42
DaveMorris$blueprints22:43
rhpot1991ya I know, I set certain shows to start and end 1 minute early22:43
DaveMorrishttps://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/22:43
DaveMorrisstupid bot22:43
rhpot1991but I am getting missing bits when say a show ends and another show starts on the same channel22:43
solarbabyDaveMorris: Thanks22:43
rhpot1991wasn't sure if there was a more elegant solution22:44
rhpot1991or a way to not have a gap in between shows like that22:44
* superm1 throws a random plate at therethinker for his bot breaking again :)22:45
tgm4883rhpot1991, not really, the only option that I know of would be to get a second tuner and set the shows to start earlier and end later22:45
tgm4883afaik22:45
DaveMorristherethinker: your bot is broken ^^22:45
tazgodxanyone actually try out Myth Recording Extender (MRE)?22:47
tgm4883tazgodx, looks good, but haven't gotten around to installing it yet22:47
tgm4883maybe this weekend22:47
solarbabysuperm1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3552425#post355242522:47
tazgodxive been thinking of trying it out. just curious how well it worked22:47
superm1much better solarbaby22:47
superm1thanks22:47
solarbabysuperm1: it was my pleasure, and thanks for your help too22:48
DaveMorrissuperm1: you wanna merge that into the lirc version of the doc whilst I sleep?22:48
tgm4883tazgodx, for the sports it does, it looks like it works well22:48
superm1DaveMorris, we'll see if i get a moment tonight22:49
superm1i'll let you know when i do22:49
rhpot1991I thought MRE was out of date22:49
therethinkerGRAHH I HATE YOU MYTHBOT!22:50
therethinker$mcc22:50
therethinker$whack mythbot22:51
mythbot/me whacks mythbot22:51
therethinker$slap mythbot22:51
mythbot/me slaps mythbot22:51
* therethinker abc22:51
* therethinker abc22:51
tazgodxhmm, now im curious if it even works anymore :)22:51
rhpot19912006-09-09 06:4722:52
rhpot1991was the last update22:52
tazgodxyeah i just saw that22:52
rhpot1991actually 1.1.2 Notes (2006-11-05 15:11)22:52
rhpot1991pasted the wrong one22:52
tazgodxbut it says it works with 0.19+22:53
rhpot1991unless espn's website hasn't changed since then22:53
rhpot1991try it out, let me know if it works22:53
rhpot1991I went to install it before and couldn't find any proof that it was worth my time22:53
tazgodxhaha22:53
tazgodxill attempt it tonight if i have time22:53
tazgodxill add it to my list22:54
rhpot1991anyone want to point me in the right direction here, I am looking to remove comercials before I encode for the ipod23:01
tgm4883rhpot1991, do you have comm flaggin on?23:02
rhpot1991yep23:02
tgm4883do you want to fine tune the comm flagging?23:02
rhpot1991not really, I just don't want them to show up in the ipod encoded videos23:03
rhpot1991I'm not entirely sure the commflaggins is happening correctly on all shows either, but I'll deal with that if its a problem later23:03
therethinkerBTW: when is ubuntu released? Midnight in what zone?23:04
DaveMorrisutc23:04
therethinkerfigured23:04
DaveMorrisnot midnight though, as soon as they have the servers ready etc23:04
DaveMorrishas been around 15:00 utc before23:05
DaveMorrisbut you can upgrade now23:05
tgm4883yea23:05
tgm4883seems like last time it was around 9-12am PST23:05
therethinkerI thought they were going for midnight this time -- I remember last year was 3ish23:05
tgm4883heh23:07
tgm4883"Firstly, we don’t release a new release to the Internet at any specific time, it will be released at some point on the 18th Oct 2007."23:07
tgm4883jono^^23:07
DaveMorrisyeah, you can run your apt-get dist-upgrade now though and it'll work23:09
tgm4883yep23:10
DaveMorris sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -d to pull them through my apt-cacher methinks23:12
DaveMorrisneed to get 1385MB!23:13
tgm4883wow23:15
DaveMorrisI guess I should push gutsy versions of my ppa packages out now as well23:16
solarbabyDaveMorris: not to sound like an idiot, but is there a release tonight?23:17
therethinkerYeah...23:17
solarbabyDaveMorris: Anything much being included since a week ago?23:17
DaveMorrishttp://www.jonobacon.org/?p=105923:17
DaveMorrisnot sure, not been following23:17
DaveMorristhis is a ubuntu release not a mythbuntu one23:17
solarbabyDaveMorris: Oh Right on23:17
solarbabyDaveMorris: you guys are working on that too I gather23:18
DaveMorrisyeah, need to wait for installation docs etc to be completed23:18
DaveMorrisstilla few sections to go23:18
DaveMorriswork in progress is at http://foss.it.brighton.ac.uk/epoch/mythbuntu/complete-manual.pdf if you wanna proof read it23:18
solarbabyDaveMorris: my laptop needs to get rid of windows23:18
solarbabyDaveMorris: Thanks23:20
DaveMorrisany changes can you send me a mail at david.morris@greenacre.no-ip.com23:20
solarbabyDaveMorris: certainly23:21
DaveMorristhanks23:21
solarbabyDaveMorris: I dont know how well I'll ready through it at the moment..  I stayed up all night getting Lirc to work for me23:21
DaveMorrisdoesn't need to be done now23:21
solarbabyDaveMorris: and while I was doing that I was also figuring out how to Scrape zap2it.com and automatic the process ;)23:22
DaveMorrisbut when you do do it, download it again incase I've added more to it23:22
solarbabyDaveMorris: alright23:22
superm1hmum23:24
superm1bzr won't take my public key23:24
superm1i've got changes to push23:24
superm1but its telling me that i'm crazy.23:25
DaveMorrisregesister a new one :P23:25
superm1Permission denied (publickey).23:25
superm1bzr: ERROR: exceptions.AssertionError: end of file reading from server.23:25
superm1i just de-register and re-registered it to make sure it was working23:25
DaveMorrisbazzar23:26
DaveMorris;)23:26
superm1well i'll try again later23:26
superm1i've got a substantial diff23:26
superm1that cleans up lirc a little and points stuff around23:26
superm1and cleans up hyperlinks23:26
DaveMorrissounds good23:26
DaveMorrislirc did look messy since I'd not even bothered to tidy it yet23:27
* DaveMorris still has 1/2 his dishes to wash23:27
superm1yeah its still not perfect23:27
superm1but its better23:27
foxbuntusuperm1, I have intresting news23:28
* DaveMorris waits egaly23:29
* DaveMorris can't spell tonight23:29
foxbuntuDaveMorris, check dev23:29
DaveMorris$poke superm123:30
mythbot/me stabs superm1 violently with a rusty spoon23:30
pdragonsuperm1: just noticed after a reboot that the multiple network icons were still there. i deleted the .cache folder and restarted again and they're still there23:33
superm1pdragon, you must be saving settings on exit then23:33
superm1the best solution is to rm ~/.cache, and then ctrl alt backspace23:33
superm1or killall xfce4-session23:33
superm1so you remove them from the cache, but then save them right back23:33
pdragonahh ok23:34
pdragonsuperm1: that fixed it. thanks :)23:40

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