[15:54] <frank__> drunken-wallaby: there was no recording scheduled at the channel it switched to?
[15:55] <drunken-wallaby> frank__ no, i extra checked this. there are no recordings scheduled at all....
[15:55] <DaveMorris> DiggThis: what do you mean by reverse dvd sybmbolic links?
[15:55] <DaveMorris> bug #45518
[15:55] <tgm4883> DaveMorris, seems like it's missing a number
[15:56] <DaveMorris> yeah, it looks short
[15:56] <DaveMorris> drunken-wallaby: does it give you a grey screen with a 30 second count down?
[15:56] <frank__> DaveMorris: DiggThis, you mean point /dev/dvd somewhere else?
[15:56] <drunken-wallaby> DaveMorris no, it just switches channel (or probably tuner, i'm not sure) just as if i were changing channels manually
[15:57] <directhex|work> it's not mythbuntu related at all, but i wanted to rely on ubotu to make life easier :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45518
[15:57] <tgm4883> !45518
[15:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 45518 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <DaveMorris> !bug #1
[15:58] <directhex|work> ubotu, you suck
[15:58] <tgm4883> interesting, so ubotu isn't looking for bugs anymore
[15:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you suck - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <DaveMorris> bug #1
[15:58] <DaveMorris> #1
[15:58] <tgm4883> #45518
[15:58] <tgm4883> bug 45518
[15:59] <tgm4883> bug 137167
[15:59] <tgm4883> hmm
[15:59] <DaveMorris> drunken-wallaby: I'm not sure then, I've never seen that before, your not pressing anything on the laptop either?
[16:00] <tgm4883> drunken-wallaby, you've checked the frontend logs and the backend logs?
[16:00] <drunken-wallaby> DaveMorris. no, i've a dedicated mythbox. remotecontrol and keyboard of the mythbox are at least 5 metres away from me.... and i've no clue how to debug this....
[16:00] <tgm4883> does it always happen?
[16:01] <drunken-wallaby> tgm4883 i did check both log-files but i didn't find anything that caught my eyes...
[16:01] <DaveMorris> can you paste bin the frontend/backend logs
[16:01] <DaveMorris> !pastebin
[16:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:01] <tgm4883> bug 137167
[16:01] <drunken-wallaby> tgm4883 hard to say, 3 times over the last 3 hours or so, but not regulary.
[16:01] <drunken-wallaby> ok, i'll post the logs....
[16:03] <DiggThis> sorry yes point dvd somewhere else cause in mythtv the dvd drives seem to be reversed
[16:03] <DiggThis> how do i restore natural order?
[16:10] <drunken-wallaby> frontend log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40944/
[16:10] <drunken-wallaby> backend log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40945/
[16:13] <DaveMorris> drunken-wallaby: when did it happen ~ in your time zone?
[19:00] <DaveMorris> solarbaby: superm1 has finshed the lirc for gutsy now, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Gutsy it might be helpful for you
[19:01] <superm1_> yeah it doesn't reflect anything on usb-uirt that solarbaby has discovered, that stuff will be merged in after he gets it in the forums
[19:01] <DaveMorris> oh ok
[19:16] <solarbaby> Im still working on my post
[19:16] <solarbaby> it'll be done very soon
[19:24] <solarbaby> superm1_: should i leave out the howto on using a free scraper for tvlistings.zap2it.com?
[19:25] <solarbaby> superm1_: Im cheap..  I didn't wanna pay until I know for sure I want to use Myth.. hehe
[19:25] <superm1_> solarbaby, i haven't heard of such things.  what is the take of posting it on the regular mythtv-users mailing list?
[19:25] <solarbaby> want to see it?
[19:25] <superm1_> i dont want to immediately shoot down the idea of it, but would probably prefer to use their preference on postings
[19:25] <superm1_> also though, i don't want to jeapordize us being on bad terms with schedules direct
[19:26] <superm1_> sure put it in a pastebin for now
[19:26] <solarbaby> If I post this, my directions are so easy to get free listings people will most likely never pay
[19:26] <superm1_> yeah i would say don't then
[19:26] <solarbaby> Ok good point I will keep this howto to myself when it comes to EPG
[19:26] <superm1_> if anything put it on your own personal blog
[19:26] <superm1_> but i'd prefer to keep it out of the forums in that case
[19:26] <solarbaby> I dont have a personal blog but ya..  I use this for myself
[19:27] <solarbaby> I agree with you
[19:27] <solarbaby> want it?
[19:27] <superm1_> i'll look at it, i'm curious to see what's involved
[19:27] <superm1_> but i'm going to keep paying for SD either way myself :)
[19:28] <solarbaby> Im just poor
[19:38]  * DaveMorris uses the EIT
[20:20] <solarbaby> where do I find our help forums?
[20:20] <solarbaby> I've got some posting to do
[20:21] <DaveMorris> $forums
[20:21] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[20:21] <solarbaby> Thanks Dave
[20:21] <DaveMorris> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301
[20:21] <DaveMorris> $url
[20:21] <mythbot> http://zbanks.mine.nu/myth
[20:22] <DaveMorris> $owner
[20:22] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: This bot is owned & operated by Seveas. For questions/requests/comments, join #ubuntu-bots
[20:22] <solarbaby> I thought our help forums would be UbuntuMyth or something like that
[20:22] <DaveMorris> therethinker: is this bot yours?
[20:33] <Dr_willis> Darn it - The cable company i think rearranged the channels
[20:33] <Dr_willis> Now i got Lifetime recording when it should be recording Cartoonnetwork. :(
[20:41] <therethinker> DaveMorris: mythbuntu is mine
[20:42] <therethinker> *mythbot
[20:46] <DaveMorris> ok, I can't access the site to set new defintions
[20:52] <mobian> ls
[20:52] <mobian> hey all, trying to figure out why the screensaver comes on while watching videos. Is there some way to stop that ?
[20:53] <mobian> I disabled it completely in xfce4's settings, but that's not the ideal solution... anyone else seen this behavior ?
[20:53] <solarbaby> Nope
[20:53] <solarbaby> but my install is as default as they come
[20:54] <solarbaby> I haven't ever seen the screensaver go on while watching a movie
[20:54] <solarbaby> so thats just weird
[20:54] <mobian> does the screensaver come on when expected (e.g. not watching tv) ?
[20:54] <solarbaby> yeah
[20:55] <mobian> ok, I did tweak a few things in how it logs in when first booting up, so maybe I broke something there :).  I'll try it out with a default setup
[20:55] <solarbaby> and thats why my setup is as default as possibel
[20:55] <mobian> :-)
[20:55] <solarbaby> I just got done writing up some docs from this perspective
[20:56] <solarbaby> now that all the note taking is done, I too will start screwing around
[20:56] <mobian> alright, going to put it back to the default and see if problems go away.  thanks.
[20:57] <solarbaby> wish I had more to say about that
[20:57] <solarbaby> good luck
[20:58] <therethinker> Hmm... dyndns kicked me for some reason -- I can't login, and theres no record of me...
[20:58] <solarbaby> I use no-ip.com
[20:59] <therethinker> I don't like them... Dyndns is really great
[20:59] <therethinker> I've used them for 2 years... haven't had a problem till now
[21:00] <solarbaby> I used no-ip.com because I had a readily available script for my nslue2 for redirection and updates
[21:00] <therethinker> I dont think no-ip.com forwards all ports and allows wildcards
[21:00] <solarbaby> Im not really sure..  I know they will do email servers and stuff
[21:00] <therethinker> Dyndns has a script to... Plus I don't need it for dynamic dns
[21:00] <solarbaby> all I need from them is port 22
[21:00] <therethinker> I just... am cheap :P
[21:00] <solarbaby> and they do that
[21:01] <solarbaby> im cheap too
[21:02] <therethinker> Well, what I mean is, I'm using the free domains rather than buying a domain
[21:03] <DaveMorris> I use no-ip.com without a problem
[21:03] <therethinker> They're tons better than 1&1 -- I registered a domain from them and I couldn't use it...
[21:04] <therethinker> I remembered I tried no-ip.com, and I had a trouble with it...
[21:04] <DaveMorris> mobian: watching videos using an external player?
[21:04] <therethinker> I forget what it was...
[21:06] <solarbaby> I dont demand much from it.. its there when I need it
[21:09] <therethinker> Yeah, DynDNS is great, again I've used it for 2 years without any problem.
[21:16] <mobian> no, actually watching recordings (or videos or DVD) using internal player
[21:16] <mobian> I'm trying to create a new user and have it autologin with that user on the off chance I mucked with one too many settings
[21:21] <DaveMorris> Bug #147905
[21:21] <DaveMorris> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/147905
[21:21] <DaveMorris> ubuto is broke
[21:21] <solarbaby> Squish the Bug Dead
[21:21] <DaveMorris> mobian: that was for you
[21:22] <solarbaby> He must have found your bug
[21:22] <mobian> ah, i'll take a look at that right now, thanks DaveMorris
[21:23] <therethinker> Wow, Dyndns got back to me in... under 10 minutes
[21:24] <DaveMorris> and the problem?
[21:25] <therethinker> Inactivity...
[21:27] <DaveMorris> easy to get sorted?
[21:28] <therethinker> Yeah :P
[21:33] <mobian> but wait, that bug DaveMorris mentioned looks like it says Xscreensaver doesn't work with mythfrontend. Doesn't mythbuntu use gnome-screensaver as well ?
[21:33] <mobian> so no one else has any screensaver issues I take it ?
[21:33] <MythbuntuGuest38> is there a gutsy weekly build for mythtv yet?
[21:35] <DaveMorris> mobian: Do you know which one is been launched?  As the default for xfce is Xscreensaver
[21:35] <DaveMorris> and mythbuntu uses xfce
[21:38] <DaveMorris> $wiki
[21:38] <DaveMorris> $bugs
[21:40] <mobian> DaveMorris, I had assumed it was gnome-screensaver because under the "Screensaver Settings" it looked exactly like gnome-screensaver and not xscreensaver, but let me double check
[21:41] <mobian> yeah, did a "ps aux | grep screensaver" and gnome-screensaver is running
[21:41] <superm1> mobian, are you doing mythbuntu, or Ubuntu+mythtv?
[21:42] <mobian> mythbuntu
[21:42] <superm1> did you install from beta, rc or which?
[21:42] <mobian> i originally installed from beta, but have done upgrades through the update manager
[21:42] <mobian> Should I do a dist-upgrade or something ?
[21:43] <superm1> and these come up during mplayer i'm guessing
[21:44] <mobian> screensaver comes on when watching any recordings, videos, or dvd. I am using the internal player in mythfrontend, not vlc or mplayer
[21:44] <superm1> well that shouldn't be occurring.
[21:45] <superm1> can you check /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log?
[21:45] <superm1> and make sure there is a line about gnome screensaver turning on
[21:45] <mobian> hrm, that's odd. I don't have a /var/log/mythtv directory. I do remember seeing an error about that when mythfrontend started
[21:46] <mobian> let me create one, and restart mythfrontend and see what it says
[21:46] <superm1> umm.
[21:46] <superm1> you can't have a functional box without one
[21:46] <superm1> unless you deleted it yourself
[21:46] <superm1> it is there by default
[21:46] <mobian> no, i did not delete
[21:46] <mobian> i have two separate frontend-only boxes
[21:46] <mobian> let me see if the other one has that directory
[21:46] <superm1> oh i see.
[21:47] <mobian> yeah, neither frontend only box have that directory.
[21:47] <mobian> they probably should though right ?
[21:47] <superm1> well that appears to be an oversight in our packaging
[21:47] <superm1> ah yes.
[21:47] <superm1> its made by mythbackend's package
[21:47] <mobian> ah, ok
[21:47] <superm1> didn't consider that it might be needed for frontend to log there too
[21:48] <superm1> look in /tmp
[21:48] <superm1> it falls back to that
[21:48] <mobian> ah, yeah, I see the log there
[21:49] <mobian> interesting, nothing in the logs about gnome-screensaver or screensaver at all
[21:49] <mobian> i was under impression that it was xfce that was starting it up
[21:49] <superm1> it is
[21:49] <superm1> xfce does start it up
[21:49] <mobian> oh, but myth should log that event or detect it ?
[21:49] <superm1> here is what you should see
[21:50] <superm1> um er hold on a sec.
[21:51] <superm1> well i thought it was supposed to say something about it, but i'm not seeing it in my frontend log either
[21:51] <DaveMorris> let m check mine
[21:52]  * DaveMorris is running edgy with no logs
[21:53] <superm1> well mine used to put it out in the log, that's odd that it doesn't anymore
[21:53] <superm1> ohhh
[21:53] <superm1> that's why
[21:53] <superm1> it shows up in ~/.xsession-errors
[21:53] <superm1> 2007-10-17 15:52:35.337 Gnome-Screensaver support enabled
[21:53] <superm1> is what you will see
[21:54] <mobian> Yes, I do see that there
[21:55] <mobian> Logging to /tmp/mythwelcome.5196.log instead
[21:55] <mobian> 2007-10-17 15:42:02.075 Using runtime prefix = /usr
[21:55] <mobian> 2007-10-17 15:42:02.123 Gnome-Screensaver support enabled
[21:55] <mobian> 2007-10-17 15:42:02.124 DPMS is active.
[21:55] <superm1> you are using mythwelcome?
[21:55] <mobian> no, not sure why it says that.....
[21:56] <mobian> In fact in /var/log I have a "mythfrontend.5196.log"
[21:56] <superm1> that could be laga's fault with a typo in logging to that file
[21:56] <superm1> but in any which case
[21:56] <superm1> gnome screensaver support is enabled
[21:56] <mobian> ok, so I'm using Gnome-Screensaver, so it *should* work
[21:59] <superm1> mobian, can you file a bug about the logging against the mythtv package in ubuntu?
[21:59] <superm1> that way we remember to address that in hardy
[21:59] <superm1> just list where you have all of your logs showing up
[21:59] <superm1> and such
[22:00] <MythbuntuGuest58> hi. i was wondering if any of you could make a recommendation as to what TV tuner to buy for a fresh (and first-time) deployment of mythbuntu
[22:01] <superm1> $spec
[22:01] <superm1> $specs
[22:01] <superm1> oh no mythbot.
[22:01] <superm1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=570204
[22:02] <mobian> superm1, certainly, I'll file a bug about it
[22:02] <superm1> thanks mobian
[22:02] <superm1> as for your screensaver issue, i'm not sure, you're the only one that has encountered it
[22:02] <superm1> for now, i'd say just turn up the screensaver to like 90 min
[22:02] <mobian> perhaps because i'm using frontend only ? Or are others doing that too ?
[22:02] <superm1> until you can sort it out
[22:02] <superm1> well i use frontend only
[22:02] <superm1> and mine works as expected
[22:03] <mobian> hrm, ok.  Any point in doing a fresh install (not like it's gentoo afterall, it'll install reasonably quickly) ?
[22:03] <superm1> it's gotta be some little idiosyncrasy
[22:03] <superm1> mobian, sure: but let me point you at a newer iso then
[22:03] <superm1> that has more of the apt updates in it
[22:04] <superm1> http://uk.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/~superm1/mythbuntu-7.10-071016-i386.iso
[22:04] <mobian> OK, yeah, let me use the latest, that'll be great
[22:04] <superm1> it's also got our new theme
[22:04] <superm1> mobian, as seen here: http://www.mythbuntu.org/node/94
[22:05] <mobian> oh sweet, that looks nice!!
[22:05] <superm1> yeah the only differences between rc and final are going to be the rest of the ubuntu archive's apt updates, that theme, and a bug fix for xmltv users
[22:05] <mobian> you don't by chance have an amd64 iso do you ?
[22:05] <superm1> no sorry, generating one is more of a pain, so we only do them at releases.
[22:06] <superm1> eg alphaX, beta, rc, final
[22:06] <mobian> no problem
[22:07] <mobian> actually, I think I installed using the beta one and not the rc -- but should a normal "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" keep me up to date with what's in rc ?
[22:09] <superm1> well it *should*
[22:09] <mobian> oh well, I'll just download the amd64-rc version and try the live cd
[22:09] <superm1> that theme that we are using for the final actually won't be in the ubuntu archive
[22:10] <superm1> so the only way to get it will be a manual install of the deb or off the final cd
[22:10] <superm1> since we put it in after the archives froze
[22:10] <mobian> that's cool, I can always manually install it
[22:20] <superm1> mobian, http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu_0.20071015~ppa2_all.deb
[22:20] <superm1> is the link to it
[22:30] <solarbaby> superm1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3552425#post3552425
[22:31] <superm1> solarbaby, looks good, but i might make a recommendation
[22:31] <superm1> if you put the different code pieces in [CODE] [/CODE] blocks
[22:31] <superm1> so that it is more readable
[22:31] <solarbaby> superm1: do you have the ability to edit my post?
[22:32] <superm1> solarbaby, yeah i do, but i'd prefer you learned how to do it yourself, so in the future you make very readable posts too :)
[22:32] <solarbaby> superm1: hehehe
[22:32] <superm1> (you can edit your own posts still)
[22:32] <solarbaby> superm1: point taken
[22:33] <solarbaby> superm1: now that everything works, I need to find a new hobby
[22:33] <superm1> solarbaby, you can help us work on making everything easier if you'd like to join development efforts :)
[22:33] <solarbaby> superm1: im not that smart, Im just determind
[22:34] <superm1> don't need to be smart about all this stuff, there are tons of areas we can use help in
[22:34] <solarbaby> superm1: but Im glad to be a part of this circle..  and I may from time to time pick things that interest me
[22:34] <superm1> if you are good with artwork or even have ideas for what else we need
[22:34] <superm1> or documentation, or anything, if you want something to work on, we can give you something :)
[22:35] <solarbaby> superm1: sounds good to me..  this is the best pvr i've ever seen..  its only missing 1 little thing..  TheTVDB.com to compliment IMDB.com
[22:36] <solarbaby> If I was much of a scripter I'd try to attack that one
[22:36] <superm1> what's that?
[22:37] <solarbaby> superm1: It's kind of like Schedules Direct in the way that it sends you data.. you do not need a scraper to use their database to look up show information and download it
[22:37] <solarbaby> they are specificly a TV.COM replacement..
[22:37] <solarbaby> and they are free
[22:37]  * DaveMorris isn't smart and manages to get some of the credit
[22:37] <solarbaby> and awesome..  I have 20 Full TV Shows that used their database to give me all the Show Info.. Its great
[22:38]  * rhpot1991 got the ipodexport script working with ubuntu
[22:38] <superm1> solarbaby, ah sounds like a very neat project
[22:38] <solarbaby> Dave your pretty cool
[22:38] <solarbaby> superm1: it's great..  I use it with my xbox
[22:39] <solarbaby> superm1: its the only thing MythTV needs according to me
[22:39] <superm1> solarbaby, well if you want to write a spec, if someone who does development with us wants to take it up
[22:39] <superm1> they can
[22:41] <solarbaby> superm1: I'll do that
[22:41] <rhpot1991> what does everyone do about shows starting/ending a few seconds off?
[22:41] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, deal with it?
[22:41] <hugolp> rhpot1991:  set mythtv to record 3 minutes in advance and 10 minutes after every show
[22:42] <hugolp> rhpot1991:  its in the settings
[22:42] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, get multiple tuners
[22:42] <hugolp> and mythtv does it automatically
[22:42] <DaveMorris> solarbaby: you can write specs at $blueprints
[22:43] <DaveMorris> $blueprints
[22:43] <rhpot1991> ya I know, I set certain shows to start and end 1 minute early
[22:43] <DaveMorris> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/
[22:43] <DaveMorris> stupid bot
[22:43] <rhpot1991> but I am getting missing bits when say a show ends and another show starts on the same channel
[22:43] <solarbaby> DaveMorris: Thanks
[22:44] <rhpot1991> wasn't sure if there was a more elegant solution
[22:44] <rhpot1991> or a way to not have a gap in between shows like that
[22:45]  * superm1 throws a random plate at therethinker for his bot breaking again :)
[22:45] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, not really, the only option that I know of would be to get a second tuner and set the shows to start earlier and end later
[22:45] <tgm4883> afaik
[22:45] <DaveMorris> therethinker: your bot is broken ^^
[22:47] <tazgodx> anyone actually try out Myth Recording Extender (MRE)?
[22:47] <tgm4883> tazgodx, looks good, but haven't gotten around to installing it yet
[22:47] <tgm4883> maybe this weekend
[22:47] <solarbaby> superm1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3552425#post3552425
[22:47] <tazgodx> ive been thinking of trying it out. just curious how well it worked
[22:47] <superm1> much better solarbaby
[22:47] <superm1> thanks
[22:48] <solarbaby> superm1: it was my pleasure, and thanks for your help too
[22:48] <DaveMorris> superm1: you wanna merge that into the lirc version of the doc whilst I sleep?
[22:48] <tgm4883> tazgodx, for the sports it does, it looks like it works well
[22:49] <superm1> DaveMorris, we'll see if i get a moment tonight
[22:49] <superm1> i'll let you know when i do
[22:49] <rhpot1991> I thought MRE was out of date
[22:50] <therethinker> GRAHH I HATE YOU MYTHBOT!
[22:50] <therethinker> $mcc
[22:51] <therethinker> $whack mythbot
[22:51] <mythbot> /me whacks mythbot
[22:51] <therethinker> $slap mythbot
[22:51] <mythbot> /me slaps mythbot
[22:51]  * therethinker abc
[22:51]  * therethinker abc
[22:51] <tazgodx> hmm, now im curious if it even works anymore :)
[22:52] <rhpot1991> 2006-09-09 06:47
[22:52] <rhpot1991> was the last update
[22:52] <tazgodx> yeah i just saw that
[22:52] <rhpot1991> actually 1.1.2 Notes (2006-11-05 15:11)
[22:52] <rhpot1991> pasted the wrong one
[22:53] <tazgodx> but it says it works with 0.19+
[22:53] <rhpot1991> unless espn's website hasn't changed since then
[22:53] <rhpot1991> try it out, let me know if it works
[22:53] <rhpot1991> I went to install it before and couldn't find any proof that it was worth my time
[22:53] <tazgodx> haha
[22:53] <tazgodx> ill attempt it tonight if i have time
[22:54] <tazgodx> ill add it to my list
[23:01] <rhpot1991> anyone want to point me in the right direction here, I am looking to remove comercials before I encode for the ipod
[23:02] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, do you have comm flaggin on?
[23:02] <rhpot1991> yep
[23:02] <tgm4883> do you want to fine tune the comm flagging?
[23:03] <rhpot1991> not really, I just don't want them to show up in the ipod encoded videos
[23:03] <rhpot1991> I'm not entirely sure the commflaggins is happening correctly on all shows either, but I'll deal with that if its a problem later
[23:04] <therethinker> BTW: when is ubuntu released? Midnight in what zone?
[23:04] <DaveMorris> utc
[23:04] <therethinker> figured
[23:04] <DaveMorris> not midnight though, as soon as they have the servers ready etc
[23:05] <DaveMorris> has been around 15:00 utc before
[23:05] <DaveMorris> but you can upgrade now
[23:05] <tgm4883> yea
[23:05] <tgm4883> seems like last time it was around 9-12am PST
[23:05] <therethinker> I thought they were going for midnight this time -- I remember last year was 3ish
[23:07] <tgm4883> heh
[23:07] <tgm4883> "Firstly, we don’t release a new release to the Internet at any specific time, it will be released at some point on the 18th Oct 2007."
[23:07] <tgm4883> jono^^
[23:09] <DaveMorris> yeah, you can run your apt-get dist-upgrade now though and it'll work
[23:10] <tgm4883> yep
[23:12] <DaveMorris>  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -d to pull them through my apt-cacher methinks
[23:13] <DaveMorris> need to get 1385MB!
[23:15] <tgm4883> wow
[23:16] <DaveMorris> I guess I should push gutsy versions of my ppa packages out now as well
[23:17] <solarbaby> DaveMorris: not to sound like an idiot, but is there a release tonight?
[23:17] <therethinker> Yeah...
[23:17] <solarbaby> DaveMorris: Anything much being included since a week ago?
[23:17] <DaveMorris> http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1059
[23:17] <DaveMorris> not sure, not been following
[23:17] <DaveMorris> this is a ubuntu release not a mythbuntu one
[23:17] <solarbaby> DaveMorris: Oh Right on
[23:18] <solarbaby> DaveMorris: you guys are working on that too I gather
[23:18] <DaveMorris> yeah, need to wait for installation docs etc to be completed
[23:18] <DaveMorris> stilla few sections to go
[23:18] <DaveMorris> work in progress is at http://foss.it.brighton.ac.uk/epoch/mythbuntu/complete-manual.pdf if you wanna proof read it
[23:18] <solarbaby> DaveMorris: my laptop needs to get rid of windows
[23:20] <solarbaby> DaveMorris: Thanks
[23:20] <DaveMorris> any changes can you send me a mail at david.morris@greenacre.no-ip.com
[23:21] <solarbaby> DaveMorris: certainly
[23:21] <DaveMorris> thanks
[23:21] <solarbaby> DaveMorris: I dont know how well I'll ready through it at the moment..  I stayed up all night getting Lirc to work for me
[23:21] <DaveMorris> doesn't need to be done now
[23:22] <solarbaby> DaveMorris: and while I was doing that I was also figuring out how to Scrape zap2it.com and automatic the process ;)
[23:22] <DaveMorris> but when you do do it, download it again incase I've added more to it
[23:22] <solarbaby> DaveMorris: alright
[23:24] <superm1> hmum
[23:24] <superm1> bzr won't take my public key
[23:24] <superm1> i've got changes to push
[23:25] <superm1> but its telling me that i'm crazy.
[23:25] <DaveMorris> regesister a new one :P
[23:25] <superm1> Permission denied (publickey).
[23:25] <superm1> bzr: ERROR: exceptions.AssertionError: end of file reading from server.
[23:25] <superm1> i just de-register and re-registered it to make sure it was working
[23:26] <DaveMorris> bazzar
[23:26] <DaveMorris> ;)
[23:26] <superm1> well i'll try again later
[23:26] <superm1> i've got a substantial diff
[23:26] <superm1> that cleans up lirc a little and points stuff around
[23:26] <superm1> and cleans up hyperlinks
[23:26] <DaveMorris> sounds good
[23:27] <DaveMorris> lirc did look messy since I'd not even bothered to tidy it yet
[23:27]  * DaveMorris still has 1/2 his dishes to wash
[23:27] <superm1> yeah its still not perfect
[23:27] <superm1> but its better
[23:28] <foxbuntu> superm1, I have intresting news
[23:29]  * DaveMorris waits egaly
[23:29]  * DaveMorris can't spell tonight
[23:29] <foxbuntu> DaveMorris, check dev
[23:30] <DaveMorris> $poke superm1
[23:30] <mythbot> /me stabs superm1 violently with a rusty spoon
[23:33] <pdragon> superm1: just noticed after a reboot that the multiple network icons were still there. i deleted the .cache folder and restarted again and they're still there
[23:33] <superm1> pdragon, you must be saving settings on exit then
[23:33] <superm1> the best solution is to rm ~/.cache, and then ctrl alt backspace
[23:33] <superm1> or killall xfce4-session
[23:33] <superm1> so you remove them from the cache, but then save them right back
[23:34] <pdragon> ahh ok
[23:40] <pdragon> superm1: that fixed it. thanks :)