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LjLstdin: i'd sneak in "Using the ext3 filesystem, which is default in Ubuntu, is generally recommended".15:08
stdinyeah, I agree with that15:08
elkbuntuagree15:08
elkbuntureiser breaks way too often to have random users encouraged to use it15:09
stdinsomething like "reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount. You can read reiserfs from Windows via http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html | Using !ext3, which is the default on Ubuntu, is recommended." ?15:10
PiciI'm of the 'if you have to ask' you shouldnt be using it philosophy.15:10
stdinor "...is highly recommended"15:11
elkbuntuPici, yep. unfortunately idiots and people who think too much of themselves don't conform to said philosophy15:11
elkbuntuanyway, im overdue for bed. so g'nite15:12
Flameviperhuh?15:48
jdongit's hard to believe that a client malfunction can cause you to notice the whole channel with garbage15:48
Flameviperoh, no, no15:48
Flameviperwhy did you ban me?15:48
Flameviperyou could have just said stop and i owould have been all like ok and then we would have happy hug time15:49
LjLFlameviper: you said "you could have told me to stop", that means that you know WHAT you should have stopped.15:49
* LjL hugs Flameviper15:49
Flameviperwell, i had done one thing15:49
* Flameviper hugs LjL15:49
Picier. okay.15:50
Amaranth!no compiz is <reply> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager15:51
ubotuI'll remember that Amaranth15:51
LjLFlameviper, anything else we can do to you?15:52
Flameviperun-b& me from #ubuntu15:53
Flameviperplz15:53
LjLi'm afraid that isn't possible15:53
Flameviperwhyyyy15:53
stdinbesides, "un-b&" is not a word15:53
Piciw@?15:54
LjLFlameviper: because i don't believe you didn't know you were disrupting the channel.15:54
Flameviperun-banishment15:54
jdongPici: what's a wasperand?15:54
Flameviper:(15:54
Picijdong: thats not an apersand.15:54
Picinor an ampersand.15:54
Flameviperampersand15:54
Flameviper&15:54
jdongPici: ah, but it is an asperand. :)15:54
FlameviperI was bampersanded15:54
FlameviperASPERAND AMPERSAND WTFUX15:55
* LjL wonders how long will a certain database stay locked this time15:55
* Pici wonders as well15:55
LjLPici: ah, it's your fault then :P15:56
* Seeker` is confuddled15:56
PiciLjL: wfm.15:56
LjLyeah it opened now15:56
FlameviperWTF15:56
FlameviperWHabj145u15:56
Picielfs are hawt? interesting.15:57
LjLnow what did i want to say15:57
LjLi don't know many elfs15:58
LjLbut if he says so, i'll believe him, he sounds like such a serious guy15:58
LjLah yes15:58
LjL!troll is <reply> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny. Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.15:59
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL15:59
LjLlike it?15:59
PiciSort of.  Except that people are going to use it for people who are 'just trolling' and it wont make much sense.15:59
jdongcan we have an ASCII-Art please don't feed the trolls sign?16:01
* jdong ducks16:01
LjL!no troll is <reply> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny. The culprit isn't in the channel anymore now. Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.16:01
ubotuI'll remember that LjL16:01
LjLPici: would that make them understand that it shouldn't be used that way?16:01
jdongand for that matter of silly feature requests,  how about ubotu replies with eliza AI whenever it can't understand a command?16:01
PiciLjL: you know how people are, they just guess at factoids.16:02
LjLjdong: if you want megahal on irc, i'll be glad to give it to you, but not on #ubuntu :)16:02
jdonghaha :)16:02
LjLPici: you know how operators are, they think they know irc commands, but then they just type /kb by mistake16:02
jdong /j #ubotu-nightline :)16:02
LjLPici: make the factoid name more obscure?16:03
ubotuIn ubotu, jdong said: jdong is trapped in here!! how do I get out?? help!!16:03
PiciLjL: That was my thought.16:03
jdongha, that construct never gets old16:04
stdinas soon as people see it used they'll know it anyway16:04
PiciIt never does.  16:04
LjL!feeding the troll is <reply> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.16:04
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL16:04
LjL!forget troll16:04
ubotuI'll forget that, LjL16:04
LjL!b | jdong16:04
ubotujdong: b is an IRC mode that you don't want on your hostname.16:04
ubotuWaltzingAlong called the ops in #ubuntu16:04
ubotujdong called the ops in #ubuntu16:04
jdongLjL: haha :)16:05
LjLwho reverted !ops? was the warning about only using it in emergencies such a bad idea?16:06
=== tritium_ is now known as tritium
PriceChildubotu's not joining very quickly...19:02
PiciIts only in offtopic :/ And I told them not to abuse it.19:03
PriceChildubotwo seems to be ok in #ubuntu... I daren't add it to many more... and yeah I think ubotu's stuck.19:10
PiciAre we just letting people stay in #ubuntu with Gutsy questions now?19:11
PriceChildI don't have the strength to ask them to move... it seems petty now.19:12
Seveascrummy bot19:43
Seveasalways decides to play up when a release is imminent19:44
PriceChildhehe :)19:44
Seveashost is back, bot will be19:44
PriceChildubotwo seems to have been ok in #ubuntu... will remove when ubotu reappears :)19:44
Seveasit's connecting19:44
PriceChildsprinkle in #u makes me uneasy19:51
Picime too19:51
PiciI dont know what hes talking about either19:51
PriceChildbeen sitting there a while waiting for ubotu to join... look away for a few seconds and it sneaks in like a fish19:56
gnomefreak.win 2519:57
gnomefreakanyone know npmccallum?19:57
PiciPriceChild: you have ops in c-f?19:57
PriceChildPici, yes.19:57
PiciPriceChild: take a look please, someone is parting and rejoining19:57
PiciSet off my !ops hilight ;)19:58
ubotuSeeker` called the ops in #ubuntu20:15
ubotuatlfalcons866 called the ops in #kubuntu20:42
ubotuIn #ubuntu, Seveas said: !pronounce =~ s/^/<reply> To learn how to pronounce Ubuntu,20:56
ubotuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, recon said: !no, syn is ACK20:56
LjL+J 2,5 set in #ubuntu21:10
* Seeker` wonders how far the numbers will drop overnight21:15
Seeker`wb21:25
LjLeh? so we *have* forwarded #ubuntu-effects to #compiz-fusion?21:26
LjLwasn't everybody on the ML saying it was a bad idea?21:26
LjL!no torrents is <reply> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs)22:03
LjL!no download is <reply> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use BitTorrent to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!22:05
ubotuI'll remember that LjL22:06
robit would be more then 5 hours until the fun, more like 15 or so right?22:07
LjLi don't really know22:08
* rob is just trying to organise his day :)22:09
naliothrob: depends on where in the world one is22:09
nalioth3 hours GMT away22:09
robonly 3? I thought it was midday utc?22:09
Seveasrob, that's my experience as well22:09
Seeker`its thursday in 2 hours if you are in the UK22:09
robwhich hasn't kicked into the new day yet22:10
Seeker`feisty was about 3pm in the UK if i remember rightly22:10
PiciBut that doesnt mean that its released in 2 hours in the UK and 7 hours in the US.22:10
naliothi've not gotten any updates in 2 or 3 days, so does that mean it's all good?  :D22:11
tonyyarussoThe releases are usually early morning here (UCT-5/6), like 6 AM ish22:11
robI'll plan to be here at midday utc, but I'll be in and out between now and then22:11
Seveasnalioth, yes22:11
PriceChildSeeker`, hehe i've heard basically every o'clock this past few days...22:11
Seeker`PriceChild: probably :P22:11
tonyyarussobut then, I have the whole day off :)22:11
Seveasnalioth, as usual, the iso's are already downloadable so expect a growing "but it's already there!!" crowd22:11
Seeker`I was just saying its release day in 2 hours, and i think feisty was about 3pm22:11
* rob still has another 10 days off22:11
robI noticed #ubuntu has jumped up by 300 people already22:12
* tonyyarusso thinks they should disable Indexing in apache until it's announced22:12
ompaulI would guess 12 hours less 15 mins would be the time22:12
robare we still going to forward #ubuntu+1 back to #ubuntu?22:12
tonyyarussoyeah22:12
LjLrob: probably #ubuntu-release-party, but yeah22:12
robrighto22:12
Seeker`heh, 1337 people in #ubuntu22:12
rob1336, quick someone join!22:13
rob1338, nooo lets kick someone! :)22:13
tonyyarussohaha22:13
roblets set +L 1337 :)22:13
LjL!test22:13
ubotuFailed.22:13
LjL@now22:13
tonyyarusso/remove Sorry, you aren't 1337 enough22:13
ubotuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: October 17 2007, 21:16:13 - Next meeting: MOTU Mentoring in 1 day22:13
mneptokBAM! screenshot.22:21
robwhat are they mentoring on release day?22:24
robI thought they'd be all too drunk ;)22:24
PriceChildI think its probably one of those monthly pre-scheduled things22:25
robah22:25
mneptoklike menstruation22:26
robthat can be stopped with an injection.22:26
PriceChild-release-party have found out where the files go on mirrors before they're released22:30
Seeker`idiots22:30
Seeker`someone was posting the link in -uk22:30
LjLwhere do they go? :P22:33
Seeker`-22:29:25- :ApocZA : http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso - WTF IS THIS??22:34
Seeker`from -party22:34
robheh, good job.22:35
Amaranthwow envy is pretty non-sucky now22:37
Amaranthlooks like mvo helped him with it22:37
PriceChildyay :)22:39
LjLif that link is given out22:40
LjLreply that it's just the old release candidate22:40
robyeah, but it obviously isn't.22:40
LjLrob: then lie without hope of being believed.22:41
robheh22:41
robUbuntu is so 1337. We just seem to be hovering around that number, for obvious reasons ;)22:43
LjLsee wido in -party22:44
Amaranthjeez it's not even release day yet and it's gone up 20022:46
* Seeker` has been in -party since it had 5 people22:49
PriceChildSeeker`, I'm even more hardcore than you.22:49
PriceChildalthough haven't stayed solidly 8-)22:49
* Seeker` doesn't understand why people are being like they are22:50
Seeker`I'm 99% sure i'm running gutsy final now, and if i'm not, it'll only be a short update until I am22:51
PriceChildSeeker`, see first paragraph or so of jono's post to planet22:51
Seeker`his link is wrong22:52
Seeker`to release-party22:52
LjLok, enough22:57
LjLstarting to kick link posters22:57
PriceChildneeded to be done22:57
roberr do you guys read /. much?23:00
Seeker`rob: sorta23:00
robhttp://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=33540123:00
LjLhardly23:00
naliothrob: are we nerds?23:00
robyou might want to read that then23:00
PriceChildsomeone said they were posting it there... i hope they haven't23:00
Seeker`LjL: What about possible torrent links?23:00
LjLPriceChild: they have.23:01
LjLPriceChild: who?23:01
PriceChildSeeker`, they'll be released when its released :)23:01
Seeker`PriceChild: I mean people are posting them in -party23:01
PriceChildLjL, rbs-tito23:02
mneptokSeeker`: torrents are 100% dependent upon final images23:02
mneptokugh. i still have to get our torrent host ready.23:03
Seeker`i want to know who posted that to slashdot23:04
Seeker`and i am extremely annoyed that someone claimed that -uk started it23:04
robit was anonymous23:06
Seeker`rob: yeah, which is why i want to know :P23:06
Seeker`if it wasn't anonymous, i would know who posted it23:07
robyup23:07
mneptokno matter where you go, there you are.23:12
PriceChildHmmm its not a crime to stay +o.... maybe they'll listen a little more.23:24
PriceChild!envy23:26
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!23:26
PriceChildAmaranth, what do you think of that ^ now then?23:27
AmaranthWell, it won't break gutsy->hardy upgrades23:27
AmaranthIt has a way to call it to completely remove what it did23:27
AmaranthSo update-manager will call that if envy is installed23:28
Amaranthrob: That always happens23:30
Amaranthsome moron notices the mirroring has started and tells everyone it's a leak23:30
* Seeker` may actually have to leave -release-party in a minute23:31
Amaranththen that mirror gets completely shut down by everyone trying to use it23:31
PriceChildAmaranth, see he slashdot link?23:32
PriceChilddoesn't seem to have been noticed.23:33
Amaranthyeah23:33
Amaranthmarked it 'stupid'23:33
PriceChildI don't have an account unfortunately :P23:34
* Seeker` marked it as stupid23:34
PriceChild*grins at them not knowing who cjwatson is*23:35
AmaranthPriceChild: Obviously just some random Ubuntu-UK guy23:35
PriceChildgah.... when isn't it23:36
Seeker`PriceChild: grins at who?23:36
PriceChildSeeker`, just in general23:36
Daviey@login23:40
ubotuOK23:40
PriceChildgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr <kahrytan>23:40
PriceChildSeveral of the devs are jumping into -party23:46
Amaranth#ubuntu-release-party is good training for remembering how to deal with hundreds of hysterical people at once23:51
mc44party!23:51
Seeker`Amaranth: tear gas?23:51
mneptokugh. with that stupid /. URL it should be #ubuntu-release-partly23:53
* mc44 blames mneptok for all insanity in the next 24 hours23:54
mneptokat least i'm off the hook for the previous 2423:55
PriceChildyeah we nailed that ubuntu-uk lot for that.23:56
Seeker`PriceChild: You being one of the -uk lot23:57

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