[15:09] <ubotu> New bug: #138369 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[Gutsy] D-Link Airplus DWL 520+ (TI ACX 100) not recognized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138369
[15:50] <immoT-> (ii) loadmodule: "ddc"(ii) module already built-in
[20:26] <tormod> I rewrote the non-xrandr part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/ReleaseNotes - if someone can review it please.
[20:36] <pcjc2> hi Bryce
[20:36] <bryce> heya :-)
[20:36] <pcjc2> 855 hardware is horrible ;)
[20:36] <pcjc2> Still no luck with any of the avenues so far
[20:37] <pcjc2> Poking the PCI config space to re-enable the memory and IO spaces on the 00.02.1 PCI device doesn't help
[20:37] <pcjc2> nor does poking it off from a working X session break anything
[20:37]  * bryce nods
[20:37] <bryce> I take it you have access to a 855 board to play with?
[20:37] <pcjc2> no, am remote debugging with Claudio.. he's being surprisingly cooperative
[20:38] <bryce> ahh, well that's excellent
[20:38] <bryce> I love it when users get really involved in the process
[20:38] <pcjc2> I just sent him a couple of .ko recompiled with the patches http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/5/1/286 and 
[20:38] <pcjc2> http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=mesa/drm.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ee211f4f7435792752c1dbcd3a60e2e7abfba09 
[20:39] <pcjc2> I'm not optimistic they will work, I don't know if Claudio will test them or not.. he seems up for trying things though
[20:39] <pcjc2> BTW... is it ok to have done this all off Launchpad?
[20:40] <pcjc2> I've got about 24 emails to him in my outbox, 20 in my inbox
[20:41] <pcjc2> so the bugspam would be rather large... if no solution is reached, I will of course post a summary of avenues investigated. (If a solution is reached, I might post that too ;))
[20:46] <pcjc2> ok, off to get food
[20:50] <bryce> pcjc2: bdmurray (the lead ubuntu qa guy) says he's having some weird artifacting on -intel when trying to suspend:  http://www.murraytwins.com/tmp/dscf4777.avi
[20:53] <bryce> pcjc2: for ubuntu-x we don't have any hard rules about where bugs get discussed and fixed, but any juicy bits are definitely worth recording in LP
[20:54] <bryce> I like doing all the discussion in LP both to have a record in one place (sometimes I need to review back to see how things developed into a solution), but I admit sometimes I go offlist - bug 127101 in particular was getting too noisy to hold conversation so I started mailing Juan Pablo off list
[20:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127101 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "laptop hangs when switching video mode" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127101
[21:44] <tormod> bryce, do you have plans for making a new test package for ati?
[21:45] <tormod> some interesting commits today.
[21:45] <bryce> tormod, you mean a refreshed version of the -git head I did the other day, or the new fglrx?
[21:45] <bryce> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=881
[21:45] <tormod> the -ati driver from git
[21:46] <bryce> tormod, ah no plans there
[21:46] <tormod> do you have the diff and changelog for your git -head package
[21:46] <bryce> mostly focusing on documentation stuff today
[21:47] <bryce> yeah I'll push that up, one sec
[21:47] <tormod> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/ati/ has only the .deb, and from its changelog I am not sure which commit was included.
[21:47] <bryce> tormod: btw, it would be really helpful if when you build packages, to also publish the debdiff, dsc, etc. 
[21:48] <tormod> apropos documentation, can you look at the release notes (xrandr)?
[21:48] <bryce> there were several things I was uncertain about in doing this package so would have liked to look how you'd been handling them
[21:48] <tormod> I was pulling in each and every commit as a separate quilt patch...
[21:49] <bryce> yeah anything in particular with the release notes?
[21:49] <tormod> I just changed the non-xrandr alternatives part
[21:50] <bryce> think there's any other things we should mention in the release notes?
[21:50] <tormod> I discussed it briefly with tepsipakki earlier.
[21:50] <bryce> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/ati/
[21:51] <tormod> well there's a whole lot of card-specific issues: Xpress cards, 7500... but it will be too much for the official notes.
[21:51] <jcristau> xpress cards never really worked anyway, afaik
[21:52] <tormod> jcristau: people anyway try with their brand new laptops :)
[21:53] <tormod> and they will be disappointed/confused/writing bug reports
[21:54] <tormod> bryce: your tar.gz has everything? no diff. can I just git pull on top of it?
[21:55] <bryce> almost
[21:55] <bryce> do a git pull, cd into it, and run ./autogen.sh
[21:56] <bryce> then tar that up, and rename it from xf86-... to xserver-xorg-...
[21:57] <bryce> to create the package, I just unpacked that, copied the debian/ dir from a prior version, made a few tweaks mentioned in the changelog, and went through the normal debuild / pbuilder process
[21:57] <bryce> heya jcristau
[21:58] <jcristau> hi bryce 
[21:58] <bryce> yeah I think we need to keep the release notes short and sweet, no need to mention every hardware that doesn't work... although it would be nice if we had a listing to link to.  Oh well, maybe next time.
[21:58] <jcristau> tormod: you can't document every bug in release notes, so usually the focus is on regressions
[21:59] <tormod> jcristau: right
[22:04] <tormod> bryce: I just unpacked your .dsc, ran git pull and debuild'ed again. quick and dirty.
[22:04] <tormod> bryce: I changed the changelog though
[22:07] <bryce> excellent
[22:10] <tormod> maybe we should have had an GutsyKnownIssues/Xorg...
[22:16] <tormod> oops I forgot to specify ppa when I dput'ted the package, it ended up in upload.ubuntu.com - I guess it will be deleted by it self?
[22:16] <ubotu> New bug: #153733 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "D620 Nvidia direct rendering no" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153733
[22:34] <tepsipakki> GKI/Xorg should be a link to the buglist/package report page :)
[22:40] <tormod> but some bugs are really well-known issues touching a lot of users. You can't expect a first-time Ubuntu/linux user to efficiently search launchpad about issues for his card before trying installing IMO.
[22:41]  * tormod has to restart X
[22:43]  * tormod is back on the edge (git-head) again
[23:10] <tepsipakki> tormod: right, the blank screen issues with ati should be mentioned, and that we are likely to push an update at some point
[23:22] <tormod> I am off to bed... if you or bryce can add that to the release notes it would be great.
[23:22] <tepsipakki> I'm writing it :)
[23:24] <tepsipakki> oh great
[23:24] <tepsipakki> "The authentication database is temporarily unavailable. Anonymous access only."
[23:24] <bryce> erf
[23:25] <tepsipakki> and it's not in the cache either
[23:25] <tepsipakki> wanted a preview and it vanished
[23:30] <tormod> maybe they upgraded the wiki server to Gutsy :)
[23:34] <tepsipakki> uh, I can't remember anymore what I wrote
[23:34] <tepsipakki> too late for me
[23:34] <bryce> has anyone yet done a xserver 1.4 build?
[23:34] <tormod> now the ppa fails to upload also...
[23:34] <tepsipakki> I almost did today
[23:35] <tormod> the wiki is back
[23:36] <tepsipakki> woohooo
[23:36] <tepsipakki> no change lost
[23:36] <bryce> \o/
[23:37] <tepsipakki> just refreshed the page
[23:39] <tormod> great
[23:39] <tepsipakki> ok, it's there, first entry of the "other bugs"
[23:39] <tormod> btw, I have posted latest-git packages for ati at XorgOnTheEdge (i386 is in ppa build queue)
[23:40] <tepsipakki> feel free to modify
[23:42] <bryce> cool
[23:45] <tormod> good night (finally)
[23:45] <bryce> night
[23:47] <pcjc2> bryce: That suspend artifact is odd... is it new with the fix we pushed with 127101, or a standing bug?
[23:47] <bryce> bdmurray: is that suspend artifact new?
[23:50] <tepsipakki> I'm off to bed as well, bye! ->
[23:54] <bryce> night tepsipakki, thanks
[23:55] <bdmurray> I can't say definitively
[23:56] <pcjc2> I couldn't quite tell from the video... what is it doing?
[23:56] <bdmurray> It was pulsated red as if it were posessed
[23:56] <pcjc2> is the backlight blinking, or the image
[23:57] <pcjc2> this is on suspend, or resume from?
[23:57] <bdmurray> trying to suspend
[23:57] <bdmurray> it only happens with compiz on
[23:57] <pcjc2> did it suceed in the end?
[23:57] <bdmurray> no, it seemed to lock up
[23:57] <pcjc2> hmm
[23:57] <bdmurray> I have some other pictures somewhere
[23:57] <pcjc2> I wounder if it would do it with opengl playing
[23:58] <pcjc2> no compiz, but glxgears for example
[23:58] <pcjc2> It looks shiney and new... is it 965 hardware?
[23:59] <bdmurray> 945 I think - I'm doing some iso testing atm