[15:08] <MasterShrek> lol
[15:08] <PaulEU> Vlet: :D
[15:08] <jorgenpt> I get errors about untrusted packages in the official repository (feisty); what must I do to add this as a trusted one?
[15:08] <erUSUL> !gpgerr
[15:08] <ubotu> Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Read the top section of http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[15:08] <MasterShrek> jorgenpt, get the gpg key
[15:08] <PaulEU> how long?
[15:08] <PaulEU> because I don't found it in website :|
[15:08] <ZeroA4> jorgenpt, try to update package list
[15:09] <erUSUL> !schedule
[15:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[15:09] <fevel> [MasterShrek]: its like this...she likes to leave miro on but shutdown at six...cuz thats when she starts paying for internet here in brazil...its just a feature she saw working nicely in vista, so she cranks me about it
[15:09] <WaltzingAlong> PaulEU: this sort of data is found on ubuntu.com and other places. desktop 7.04 until 2008. server 7.04 until 2008
[15:09] <spinoza> where does sbackup log it's activity?
[15:09] <PaulEU> WaltzingAlong: big thx.. I'm planning leave it
[15:10] <WaltzingAlong> PaulEU: the LTS releases are 3 years on desktop and 5 years on server  (last one was 6.06 - supported desktop to 2009 and server to 2011)
[15:10] <dWho> but the question is should I stick to 7.04 or move to 7.10?
[15:10] <PaulEU> dWho: I'm think that on server I'll leave it in 7.04
[15:10] <WaltzingAlong> dWho: that question alone does not provide enough to evaluate an answer
[15:10] <PaulEU> but on desktop I don't know that is good
[15:10] <MasterShrek> fevel, whats miro a program?
[15:11] <WaltzingAlong> considering i am presently 7 timezones away from the computers i manage via vpn, thus far i have planned on leaving them at 7.04
[15:11] <Theory_> How hard is it to install beryl on ubuntu?
[15:11] <fevel> [MasterShrek]: yes, you sync to online tv...but have to download
[15:11] <MasterShrek> Theory_, in 7.10 very easy
[15:11] <Vlet> dWho: if you're very concerned about stability, it might be good to wait a bit for the quirks to be worked out
[15:11] <WaltzingAlong> Theory_: simple
[15:11] <MasterShrek> fevel, just create a cron job that kills the program at 6
[15:11] <Borat> hey guys, Does anyone KNow the command for SLeep? (Im in openbox, and want to put it in my Menu)
[15:11] <MasterShrek> !cron | fevel
[15:11] <ubotu> fevel: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[15:11] <Theory_> MasterShrek, I am on 7.04
[15:12] <MasterShrek> Theory_, u can upgrade easily, 7.10 gets released tomorrow
[15:12] <fevel> [MasterShrek]: so if I can do that I can set cron to shutdown right?
[15:12] <Theory_> MasterShrek, Okay. :)
[15:12] <MasterShrek> yes fevel
[15:12] <PaulEU> is there a ubuntu 7.10 ready for tommorrow issue? :)
[15:12] <Theory_> Does 7.10 come with berly?
[15:12] <Theory_> ack beryl
[15:12] <MasterShrek> what do u mean PaulEU ?
[15:12] <fevel> [MasterShrek]: ok then..ill check it out
[15:12] <MasterShrek> Theory_, compiz-fusion
[15:12] <WaltzingAlong> Theory_: yes so long as the hardware supports it
[15:12] <dennda> what was that party channel we had last time again?
[15:12] <PaulEU> MasterShrek: it's joke ;)
[15:12] <dennda> it wasn't #ubuntu-party, was it?
[15:12] <WaltzingAlong> release party
[15:13] <MasterShrek> dennda, #ubuntu-release-party
[15:13] <WaltzingAlong> thanks channel topic
[15:13] <dennda> thanks
[15:13] <PaulEU> MasterShrek: I think about that tommorrow will be publish
[15:13] <dennda> err yes
[15:49] <kitche> !usplash | WorkingOnWise
[15:49] <ubotu> WorkingOnWise: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[15:49] <_4a42_> bobbo: about 200M should give you lots of space
[15:49] <riotkittie> lshw -C video | grep driver {i'm probably wrong}
[15:50] <MasterShrek> Vlet,try: glxinfo | grep version
[15:50] <bobbo> _4a42_:Thanks :D
[15:50] <Slart> say I want to start gnome with a different x.org config file.. how would I do that?
[15:50] <tobias__> nick tobias
[15:50] <MasterShrek> Slart, replace /etc/X11/xorg.conf with your other xorg.conf
[15:50] <CaBlGuY> is there a normalise tool for K3B burning music CD's?
[15:50] <riotkittie> Slart: i believe your only option would be to move your current xorg.conf with the other
[15:50] <WorkingOnWise> Thanks kitche
[15:50] <MasterShrek> Slart, back the original one up though, in case you have problems
[15:50] <riotkittie> back the other up :>
[15:50] <LjL> tobias__: try with a slash in front
[15:51] <Vlet> MasterShrek: yeah, assuming the 8.34.8 in "OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)" referrs to the ATI version
[15:51] <WaltzingAlong> cabiguy: sure check k3b help
[15:51] <RantingHuman> !compiz
[15:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[15:51] <tobias> LjL: sorry :)
[15:51] <MasterShrek> Vlet, that would make sense :)
[15:51] <CaBlGuY> !k3b help
[15:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k3b help - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:51] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[15:51] <MasterShrek> tobias, u better be sorry =P
[15:51] <Slart> MasterShrek, hmm.. I've heard of a "next version" that uses another xorg.conf .. a more failsafe one... that doesn't work for me.. so I was hoping for a better answer =)
[15:51] <tobias> :p
[15:51] <WaltzingAlong> start k3b then access the program's help
[15:51] <Vlet> MasterShrek: just stupid-checking myself.. thanks ;)
[15:51] <MasterShrek> cableroy, if its a program: !info k3b
[15:51] <LjL> cableroy, if factoids don't exist, they don't exist. no need to invoke them.
[15:51] <CaBlGuY> I looked in the k3b channel already.,.  no one there.. :/
[15:52] <WaltzingAlong> CaBlGuY: i am referring to the program already installed on your computer
[15:52] <Vlet> kst-: I'm gonna try out the new ATI driver now :)
[15:52] <CaBlGuY> WaltzingAlong:  yea ummmmm   won't be covered there...
[15:52] <kst-> drop me a note when you're done with it Vlet :D
[15:52] <Pici> CaBlGuY: Whats the question?
[15:52] <MasterShrek> theres too many people in this chan, tab completion sux lol
[15:52] <riotkittie> a program's capabilities wont be covered in its help?
[15:53] <riotkittie> MasterShrek: i agree :x
[15:53] <WorkingOnWise> kitche: Near the top of that page, I see "The implementation for usplash changed from Dapper to Edgy " Is this info valid for Gutsy and Feisty too?
[15:53] <MasterShrek> CaBlGuY, whats your problem?
[15:53] <CaBlGuY> Pici: trying to find the plugin for normalising audio CD's on K3b..
[15:54] <WaltzingAlong> wishes to ignore k3b's documentation
[15:54] <lesha> Hi, how do I know what font my system uses for "Sans"?
[15:54] <genii> Anyone know offhand why when going to ubuntuforums firefox keeps loading some google-analytics first?
[15:54] <Pici> lesha: bitsream vera sans iirc.
[15:54] <cypher> MasterShrek: The problem I see with doing it the way the forum post suggests is that it puts objects into the filesystem that apt is not going to manage. Its a 3/4hr car trip if that method goes wrong
[15:54] <The_Entropy> hi guys, when configuring my ADSL connection pppoeconf gets to 100% then hangs
[15:54] <tcjew> whats the best tool to convert to divx/xvid and h264 ... should be a gui ... was used to virtual dub
[15:55] <tcjew> ?
[15:55] <The_Entropy> any ideas what might be causing the problem?
[15:55] <The_Entropy> (I am currently connected from windows)
[15:55] <WaltzingAlong> genii: when you access ubuntuforums the webpage (.html) contains links to google-analytics
[15:55] <cypher> MasterShrek: not to sound picky, but is there a backported package of the latest?
[15:55] <cypher> MasterShrek: and sure they compiling and installing would overwrite other ppds?
[15:55] <MasterShrek> cypher, use sudo checkinstall    instead of make install
[15:55] <jkernsjr> Is there a player that can utilize the menus in a dvd?
[15:56] <MasterShrek> cypher, that will create a deb and let apt know about it
[15:56] <The_Entropy> jkernsjr, vlc, gxine, ogle, take your pick
[15:56] <genii> WaltzingAlong: OK. seemed odd as there's no google ads etc on there
[15:56] <MasterShrek> !checkinstall | cypher
[15:56] <ubotu> cypher: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[15:56] <c> sladok_15
[15:56] <jkernsjr> they pick up the dvd at the menu like a regular player does?
[15:56] <harm> Hi all, some crappy backup My Document folder is locked (Chmod?) and now i want full access to it.. howto?
[15:56] <cypher> MasterShrek: any risk to going outside of the apt system
[15:56] <YeTr2> what would be the proper way to disable avahi?
[15:56] <CaBlGuY> WaltzingAlong: I've loked there buddy and I've looked around and no one is "willing" to help and I can't find any plugins to do it..
[15:56] <The_Entropy> jkernsjr, yes
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> genii: google analytics is not google ads but a google app that allows building profiles of the site's visitors
[15:57] <riotkittie> then perhaps such a plugin does not exist.
[15:57] <The_Entropy> vlc also has the option to go straight into the movie in case you want to skip the menu(which is what I usually want to do)
[15:57] <jkernsjr> The_Entropy: thanks..i tried mplayer and totem but they just want to play the vob's
[15:57] <cypher> ubotu: would I need to get her to remove anthing prior to installing?
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> CaBlGuY: yes i am not referring to any other IRC channel. i mean the program, k3b
[15:57] <tcjew> i found gmencoder but for some reaseon it cant encode h264 i thought mencoder is especially for that?!
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> CaBlGuY: what have you tried thus far?
[15:57] <harm> how can i get access to my windows backup folder which show up with Lock icons?
[15:57]  * genii sips a coffee and gets enlightened
[15:58] <riotkittie> cypher: ubotu is a bot. you will not really get an answer when questioning it ;)
[15:58] <harm> !botsnack
[15:58] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[15:59] <MasterShrek> cableroy, sudo apt-get install normalize-audio    tried that?
[15:59] <jkernsjr> what's the best ripping/duping software? I've tried lemonrip, dvd95, k9copy, brasero and all seem to throw errors at times, crash out of the blue, etc.
[15:59] <CaBlGuY> WaltzingAlong: I've tried asking around and looking up the plugins for the actual normailizing option in the program as it's not automatically installed ..
[15:59] <riotkittie> if only ebooks were not so difficult to curl up in bed with.
[15:59] <CaBlGuY> so far I have come up with zip..
[15:59] <The_Entropy> when configuring my ADSL connection pppoeconf gets to 100% then hangs. any ideas what might be causing the problem?
[15:59] <harm> how can i get access to my windows backup folder which show up with Lock icons?
[15:59] <MasterShrek> cypher, ubotu is a bot, he wont respond to you
[16:00] <WaltzingAlong> CaBlGuY: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30763.html
[16:00] <MasterShrek> but cypher no u wont have to have her remove anything i wouldnt think
[16:00] <CaBlGuY> WaltzingAlong: It would be a lot easier if K3b actaully had a support channel with people in it..
[16:00] <akorn> Does anyone here know why AWN and Kiba Dock both lag the hell out of my computer?
[16:00] <WaltzingAlong> genii: you can use it yourself google.com/analytics
[16:00] <WaltzingAlong> no
[16:00] <MasterShrek> CaBlGuY, sudo apt-get install normalize-audio    worked for me
[16:00] <akorn> MasterShrek you live here!
[16:01] <MasterShrek> lol akorn
[16:01] <lesha> Pici: well, I'm not so sure about bitstream vera sans. Is there a command that can show me what font is used for "Sans"?
[16:01] <akorn> MasterShrek :P
[16:02] <RantingHuman> !compiz fire
[16:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz fire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:02] <harm> how can i get access to my windows backup folder which show up with Lock icons?
[16:02] <WorkingOnWise> is there anything for gnome to give the look an function of Vista Sidebar or Yahoo Widget Engine?
[16:02] <WaltzingAlong> !look
[16:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about look - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:02] <WaltzingAlong> !themes
[16:02] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[16:02] <CaBlGuY> MasterShrek: what distro are you running?   I'm in Edfy..
[16:03] <CaBlGuY> *Edgy
[16:03] <MasterShrek> oh, im in gutsy
[16:03] <riotkittie> WaltzingAlong: screenlets may be worth looking into, also gdesklets or adesklets
[16:03] <MasterShrek> CaBlGuY, try: apt-cache search normalize
[16:03] <maja> zdr
[16:03] <WaltzingAlong> CaBlGuY: aptitude search normalize              sudo aptitude install normalize-audio
[16:03] <maja> hallllo
[16:04] <batosche> join #ubuntu-fr
[16:04] <WaltzingAlong> hallo
[16:04] <batosche> bonjour
[16:04] <riotkittie> hello batosche
[16:04] <maja> Hallo
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <maja> hh
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <WaltzingAlong> !de
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <The_Entropy> salut batosche comment ca va?
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <Sontax`lap_> how can i remove an virtual network interface?
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <niekie> !flood
[16:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <niekie> Err..
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <MasterShrek> maja, stop
[16:04] <WaltzingAlong> !ops
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <jdong> !ops | maja
[16:04] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[16:04] <maja> h
[16:04] <RantingHuman> Hello. I accidentally found the key combination for the fire-writing thing in compiz. Super key + shift + mouse drag. But I don't know how to put this fire out. Help!
[16:04] <ubotu> maja: please see above
[16:04] <maja> hgggggggggggggggggggggg
[16:04] <The_Entropy> maja stfu please
[16:04] <CaBlGuY> geezo...
[16:04] <batosche> The_Entropy, bien et toi
[16:04] <CaBlGuY> dam kids!
[16:05] <Sontax`lap_> how can i remove an virtual network interface?
[16:05] <LjL> !fr | batosche
[16:05] <MasterShrek> !fr
[16:05] <ubotu> batosche: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:05] <The_Entropy> batosche, pas mal
[16:05] <akorn> Does anyone here know why AWN and Kiba Dock both lag the hell out of my computer?
[16:05] <LjL> !feeding the troll | cableroy
[16:05] <ubotu> cableroy: The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[16:05] <Sontax`lap_> i wanna remove kis0
[16:05] <cypher> MasterShrek: lol oops :)
[16:05] <WaltzingAlong> !starving the kids | cableroy
[16:05] <The_Entropy> MasterShrek, it's just greetings, and I'm not french :)
[16:05] <riotkittie> RantingHuman: bawahahaha. i am not laughing at you, i am laughing because i have done the same thing myself. do you have keys set to initialize it? i can hit Shift+F9 i think to turn it off, but ymmv
[16:05] <MasterShrek> =)
[16:05] <YeTr2> so, what is the proper way of disabling avahi?
[16:06] <aguitel> !gutsy
[16:06] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[16:06] <MasterShrek> YeTr2, sudo apt-get remove avahi
[16:06] <jkernsjr> what does !ops do?
[16:06] <batosche> LjL, sorry i mistake chan
[16:06] <MasterShrek> YeTr2, sudo apt-get remove avahi-daemon ***
[16:06] <YeTr2> MasterShrek: breaks ubuntu-desktop thou
[16:06] <RantingHuman> riotkittie, heh, shift+f9 brings me rain :)
[16:06] <stdin> jkernsjr: it calls the channel operators,
[16:06] <niekie> jkernsjr: it alerts the channel operators..
[16:06] <MasterShrek> YeTr2, thats ok, ubunut-desktop is just a meta package
[16:06] <WaltzingAlong> YeTr2: and remove ubuntu-desktop then
[16:06] <Pici> jkernsjr: it calls the ops, use only in *emergencies*
[16:06] <niekie> Please don't abuse it :-)
[16:06] <WaltzingAlong> or leave it broken
[16:06] <akorn> Wait, is gutsy gibbon going to be considered "unstable"?
[16:06] <jkernsjr> cool..thanks
[16:07] <WaltzingAlong> akorn: what do you mean
[16:07] <akorn> ubotu up there just said "It is development software and as such unstable"
[16:07] <MasterShrek> akorn, not really, only if you add extra repos, universe and multiverse are considered to be unstable i think
[16:07] <akorn> unless he's talkign about pre-release
[16:07] <riotkittie> RantingHuman: oops. does rain put fire out, by any chance? <hides>
[16:07] <WaltzingAlong> which is what someone put into the response for that bot
[16:07] <MasterShrek> akorn, yes hes talking about pre release
[16:07] <RantingHuman> riotkittie, I already tried that, before your suggestion :D doesn't...
[16:07] <stdin> akorn: it is pre-release, it'll be released soon tho
[16:07] <akorn> MasterShrek: okay that's what i was thinking
[16:08] <akorn> stdin: yea tomorrow! haha
[16:08] <MasterShrek> well i guess i cant really say "he" because ubotu probably isnt male nor female
[16:08] <WaltzingAlong> akorn: earlier meant to relay that it was in development
[16:08] <WaltzingAlong> yeah darn english
[16:08] <RantingHuman> riotkittie, it's Shift + Super + C
[16:09] <graelb_> Hello, how do i set this up so that i run compiz on X initiation with the arguments "compiz --indirect-rendering --replace"
[16:09] <riotkittie> RantingHuman: i was just about to say that :P
[16:09] <RantingHuman> :D
[16:09] <WorkingOnWise> MasterShrek: ubotu is not male for sure...he admits he doesn't know something wayyyy to easily to be a man!
[16:09] <MasterShrek> haha
[16:09] <g0dd3ss> lmao
[16:09] <g0dd3ss> fo rly
[16:09] <akorn> MasterShrek: hahahaha
[16:10] <merid> i cant get my resolution to my monitors native of 1650 x 1080
[16:10] <kkk> ciao a tutti
[16:10] <riotkittie> !it | kkk
[16:10] <ubotu> kkk: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[16:10] <MasterShrek> merid, what kind of gfx card do you have?
[16:10] <merid> 1680 x1050
[16:11] <Vlet> kst-: Working, but no 3d accel at the moment :-/
[16:11] <merid> MasterShrek: i'm not sure its an old pc i got from someone
[16:11]  * cypher thinks it may have been a mistake sending sister to uni with such an old version of ubuntu :/
[16:11] <administrator_> hello
[16:11] <jkernsjr> how many languages does ubotu speak?
[16:11] <WorkingOnWise> I rememder the first time my puter could do 800x600x256!
[16:11] <LjL> !bot
[16:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:11] <MasterShrek> jkernsjr, all of them
[16:11] <riotkittie> except for klingon
[16:11] <administrator_> wtf is this
[16:11] <jkernsjr> ha..i was just going to ask about klingon
[16:11] <MasterShrek> administrator_, wtf is what?
[16:11] <merid> MasterShrek: like an old amd 700 mhz processor
[16:12] <administrator_> what is this chat thing's porpose?
[16:12] <MasterShrek> merid, im wondering about that graphics card, not the processor
[16:12] <akorn> isn't klingon what the people in star trek speak
[16:12] <administrator_> just to chat
[16:12] <administrator_> purpose*
[16:12] <MasterShrek> administrator_, this is an ubuntu support channel
[16:12]  * jkernsjr reading factoids.cgi
[16:12] <riotkittie> administrator_: it's a support channel.
[16:12] <donato_home> guys, How can I find out which version of ubuntu I am running?
[16:12] <merid> MasterShrek: i know i was just letting you know how old it was. i have no idea what the gfx card is
[16:12] <jkernsjr> donato_home: cat /etc/issue
[16:12] <monokrome> Hey
[16:12] <merid> MasterShrek: i know its not an ati or nvidia
[16:13] <MasterShrek> donato_home, lsb_release -a
[16:13] <donato_home> thx
[16:13] <monokrome> What type of multiple-desktops would allow me to basically just have one large screen? Is that xinerama?
[16:13] <td-linux> mergedfb
[16:13] <jkernsjr> MasterShrek: you sure that works? I have to cat /etc/lsb-release
[16:13] <MasterShrek> merid, lspci | grep VGA
[16:13] <td-linux> xinerama works more like two separate screens
[16:13] <monokrome> td-linux: Does it require any certain video drivers? :o
[16:13] <MasterShrek> jkernsjr, it works, i just did it
[16:14] <jkernsjr> mine says..command not found
[16:14]  * cypher thinks it may have been a mistake sending sister to uni with such an old version of ubuntu :/
[16:14] <dmnet> !list
[16:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:14] <MasterShrek> interesting jkernsjr, im in gutsy
[16:14] <td-linux> I'm pretty sure it works with ati and fglrx, on nvidia it's called 'twinview'
[16:14] <Pici> cypher: didn't you juust say that?
[16:14] <jkernsjr> MasterShrek: feisty here
[16:14] <MasterShrek> interesting
[16:14] <riotkittie> cypher: she can upgrade easily enough
[16:14] <monokrome> I have an intel card in this laptop :/
[16:14] <cypher> Pici: my tilda is playing up
[16:14] <Pici> cypher: okay ;)
[16:14] <aterra> I upgraded to ubuntu 7.10 from 7.04 now when I try to run Quartus II (an ide for fpga dev) I get the error "arch: command not found." twice then a error saying Unknown linux processor and at last one saying MWARCH: undefined variable. Is MWARCH supposed to be an environment variable which has been removed from 7.04 -> 7.10 ?
[16:15] <merid> MasterShrek: s3 inc. 86c368 [trio 3d/2x] (rev 02)
[16:15] <cypher> riotkittie: she can? I thought such a version jump might break stuff?
[16:15] <MasterShrek> cypher, probably, should upgrade it for her when she comes home :)
[16:15] <td-linux> eek aterra weird
[18:59] <rapha> hyperkiller: you can set the number of workspaces somewhere in the advanced desktop effects thingy, dunno what it is called right now
[18:59] <bch820> kerbau:  /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl    it will ask you if you want to bridge/use NAT/or do host only. Do bridging and you will get distinct IPs for each guest
[18:59] <hyperkiller> how did i change it in the first place?
[18:59] <Pirate_Hunter> hyperkiller: you mean 4 workstations... if thats the case just right click on it and properties than add the other two, but do you really need four?
[19:00] <hyperkiller> ahh, that got my four back
[19:00] <hyperkiller> thnx
[19:00] <bch820> new slot fixed my second NIC.
[19:00] <Pirate_Hunter> hyperkiller: its probably the desktop effect that did it I dont use it but Ive heard it has some quirkness to it
[19:00] <soundray> bch820: well done
[19:00] <dpml> how significant is the name '/home' is the third partition>
[19:00] <bch820> ty for help
[19:00] <dpml> ?
[19:01] <Pirate_Hunter> hyperkiller: good to know its done :)
[19:01] <soundray> dpml: can you rephrase that question?
[19:01] <kerbau> bch820: no uch file or directory in /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[19:01] <Pirate_Hunter> dpml: what do you mean exactly I dont get you
[19:02] <Pirate_Hunter> soundray: hello how are you
[19:02] <punzada> so what are the advantages of making a seperate partition for your home directory, just making it more simple for other users to mount their own home directories and use the system?
[19:02] <soundray> Pirate_Hunter: been better, been worse. Thanks
[19:02] <OldPink> Hey guys, been on Ubuntu a year, so isn't first install, but trying to format a hard drive to ext3, every time it gets partitioning nautilus mounts it and format fails saying it was "in use" (on live cd) help?
[19:02] <Ryuho> My tablet PC has a problem during login, my cursor moves to the bottom left and I can't click anything
[19:02] <slimjimflim> hi, i just got a new cable modem, and now i can't connect to the modem, can anyone help?
[19:02] <soundray> punzada: sharing your home between different installations. Also, reinstalling instead of upgrading without losing home.
[19:03] <Fedmahn> Hi is there any way I can take over a  tty I've logged in somewhere else to my screen now.
[19:03] <rapha> Does anybody know when 7.10 will be released? I mean in how many hours?
[19:03] <PriceChild> rapha, /topic
[19:03] <Wisteso> cable modem questions in ubuntu...
[19:03] <Pirate_Hunter> soundray: np sounds like youve been busy lately
[19:03] <soundray> rapha: read the topic
[19:03] <erUSUL> OldPink: umount it from command line under the feets of gparted
[19:03] <slimjimflim> femahn, ctrl+alt f2-f10
[19:03] <erUSUL> OldPink: feet*
[19:03] <dpml> I'm watching the install example video - its running though the partion creation stuff and the speaker decided to create a third partition named /home to store "his personal stuff" - /home is a directory used in the root file system and I'm just wondering if there would be any difference between declaring /foo as oppesed to /home?
[19:03] <rapha> Ouch, sorry sorry guys. Don't rape me for asking!
[19:03] <soundray> Pirate_Hunter: in fact, I'll log off and have some quality time with my family now.
[19:04] <OldPink> erUSUL: Cheers, I'll give that a shot
[19:04] <archie1> how do i enable root user?
[19:04] <slimjimflim> wisteso, yes, the other boxes (this one included) connect fine. it's just ubuntu
[19:04] <Fedmahn> Actually what I did is started to format a very large hdd at my office pc and I'm connected to it from home with ssh. Is there any way I can move the input from the one there to my ssh session
[19:04] <marf> anybody know why the Add/Remove programs version of VMWare player says 'i386 hardware not supported'?  I'm running gutsy
[19:04] <erUSUL> !root | archie1
[19:04] <src> dpml, no, but you also need a home
[19:04] <PriceChild> dpml, /home contains all your user specific settings... you "could" create /foo but there'd be nothing there unless you moved stuff. Many prefer to have seperate / and /home partitions
[19:04] <swatF1RESTORM> Anyone else having problems setting up wired networks in gutsy?
[19:04] <archie1> how do i enable root user?
[19:04] <Pirate_Hunter> soundray: kl take care, hoe life treats you well ;)
[19:04] <rapha> dpml: you would have to manually edit /etc/passwd in that case to have your home directory point to /foo/yourname
[19:04] <magnetron> !root | archie1
[19:04] <soundray> Pirate_Hunter: cheers, see you around
[19:04] <OldPink> erUSUL: Perfect :D
[19:04] <erUSUL> archie1: you won't. it is not necessary
[19:04] <PriceChild> src, dpml if you don't create a seperate home partition then things still work perfectly. Its nothing to worry about.
[19:04] <PriceChild> magnetron, working on it, bear with us :)
[19:05] <magnetron> archie1: use sudo instead
[19:05]  * erUSUL where's the bot? :'(
[19:05] <magnetron> PriceChild: got it
[19:05] <archie1> erUSUL: well my home dir is borked and i cant do sudo from anyother user
[19:05] <slimjimflim> fedmahn, ctrl+alt f2-f10
[19:05] <archie1> so i need to log into with root and fix this
[19:05] <erUSUL> archie1: boot in recovery mode
[19:05] <magnetron> erUSUL: it's coming back soon
[19:05] <archie1> huh?
[19:05] <slimjimflim> fedmahn, or any in between, but f7 is for gui
[19:05] <erUSUL> archie1: on the grub boot menu choose recovery mode
[19:06] <Pirate_Hunter> well im going to camp be back later
[19:06] <dpml> PriceChild: but the point is the the declaration of /home is declaring the root for all user data - correct? I.e. typing /foo is not just a chage of name.
[19:06] <archie1> erUSUL: oh ok
[19:06] <PriceChild> dpml, yes.
[19:06] <dpml> ok
[19:06] <swatF1RESTORM> Anyone else having problems applying wired network settings in gutsy?
[19:06] <PriceChild> dpml, but you don't need to declare it...
[19:06] <bch820> kerbau: if that files doesn't exist, you haven't install vmware server
[19:06] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, what's the problem>?
[19:06] <archie1> erUSUL: is it possible to do sudo from an account other than the default one?
[19:06] <bch820> installed*
[19:06] <Fedmahn> slimjimflim: yeah but I'm not on the pc I started the session on I'm connected to it through ssh
[19:06] <PriceChild> archie1, yes, if you add them to the "admin" group
[19:06] <slimjimflim> how can i reset my nic driver/settings
[19:06] <archie1> oh i'd have to run visudo..
[19:06] <PriceChild> archie1, that is NOT done by default when creating new users
[19:06] <slimjimflim> fedmahn, then idk
[19:06] <PriceChild> archie1, NO NEED for visudo
[19:06] <Baikonur_> i hate my gpu :(
[19:07] <archie1> ok
[19:07] <archie1> :)
[19:07] <Lars_G> Since 7.10 is out tomorrow can I ask gutsy stuff here or am I still banished to #ubuntu+1?
[19:07] <erUSUL> archie1: no, afaik (so you can not enable the root account either)
[19:07] <kerbau> bch820: but right now i run my vmware.....my guest os is win xp..
[19:07] <rapha> dpml: that is by convention only.
[19:07] <rapha> dpml: Which is to say, if you wanted /foo to be "the root of all user data" as you put it, you would have to do more than just to mount a separate partition there.
[19:07] <Baikonur_> no well-working drivers, neither on windows or linux
[19:07] <swatF1RESTORM> PriceChild, I just installed gutsy off the live CD and I am trying to setup the wired network however after I input the settings the 'check' icon in the upper right corner isn't active so I can't apply the settings. I can get on via wi-fi though (it's a laptop)
[19:08] <Ward1983> why does my PC crash when i accidentally rightclick a flashmovie?
[19:08] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, if you use system > admin > network then that overrides the network manager applet.
[19:08] <Ward1983> i mean half crash
[19:08] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, you're using a static ip?
[19:08] <erUSUL> archie1: if you can not log to your admin accaount your options are a liveCD or recovery mode
[19:08] <Lars_G> Ward1983: it sure is adobe's fault... anyhow are you using the lattest beta?
[19:09] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, if you're using dhcp and not a static ip then get rid of aaaalll the settings you entered.
[19:09] <swatF1RESTORM> PriceChild, I did use the system > admin > network to enter the settings and yes I do have a static IP.
[19:09] <archie1> erUSUL: i deleted my home dir but when i log into gnome it doesnt default to the default ubuntu look..
[19:09] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, right... so it should work :)
[19:09] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, if it doesn't, perhaps a sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[19:09] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, if that still doesn't work then check the settings.
[19:09] <PriceChild> !test
[19:09] <ubotwo> Failed.
[19:10] <erUSUL> archie1: recreate your home dir from a livecd
[19:10] <src> swatF1RESTORM, or you could edit /etc/network/interfaces yourself and do ifup -a or /etc/init.d/network restart whatever floats your boat
[19:10] <adaptr> does anybody know why an upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 would cause my home partition not to be mounted ?
[19:11] <PriceChild> src, swatF1RESTORM that's the same thing :/
[19:11] <kerbau> bch820: type on terminal "sudo gedit /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl" is nothing
[19:11] <PriceChild> adaptr, did you mess about with uuid's/ "/dev/{s,h}da" ?
[19:11] <PriceChild> adaptr, pastebing fdisk -l and /etc/fstab
[19:11] <CoasterMaster> Is ubotu broken?
[19:11] <leroutier> Hello
[19:11] <kerbau> i using dsl modem
[19:11] <adaptr> PriceChild no, the fstab has the normal dev nodes in it - I disabled uuid a long time ago (from 6.06 to 6.10) when they failed to boot at all
[19:11] <PriceChild> CoasterMaster, we have a backup bot in place.
[19:11] <marf> anybody know why the Add/Remove programs version of VMWare player says 'i386 hardware not supported'? I'm running gutsy
[19:11] <Lars_G> Anyhow my quick question is, I see 7.10 recognizes but doesn't mounts removable media by default. how can I change that?
[19:12] <swatF1RESTORM> PriceChild, I tried the eth0 down/up and that didn't work. gonna try the network restart
[19:12] <slimjimflim> does anyone know how i can  reset my nic driver/settings
[19:12] <CoasterMaster> PriceChild, ahh thanks.  That would explain why it's not responding to my PMs.
[19:12] <tushyd> can anyone help getting thinkfinger to run with a built-in Upek TCS4BA? It's not showing up in lsusb
[19:12] <KenSentMe> Anyone here using syncevolution 0.6 on feisty or gutsy. I can't get it installed
[19:12] <PriceChild> CoasterMaster, please don't strain the backup bot.
[19:12] <adaptr> PriceChild I suspect something with the device-mapper, as the node for my home partition is the only one created when the bootup fails
[19:12] <ader10> I have a question for conky users: Does anybody have an idea of how to get the vertical lines here? http://www.xfce-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/64710-1.jpg
[19:12] <CoasterMaster> PriceChild, I won't.  :)
[19:13] <adaptr> but I have zero knowledge of said device-mapper
[19:13] <ubstud> My computer running freenx server is behind a web proxy, how can I configure the server to accept that proxy?
[19:13] <ubstud> Because of this I cannot connect to the computer from the client machine.
[19:13] <Scott> hi, i'm trying to setup my computer to connect to my router with a static IP instead of using DHCP but even though it seems to be configured right it still won't connect to the Internet
[19:13] <adaptr> PriceChild also, the weird thing is that this only happens when I boot the new Gutsy kernel (2.6.22), and not with the old one
[19:14] <redico> hoi, how to install java6-jre as default ? or  set it as default ( if installed) ?????
[19:14] <]]R1cK[[> Gutsy Gibbons goes out at midnight?
[19:14] <adaptr> PriceChild but alas, when I boot the old one it doesn't recognise my nvidia-restricted (obviously)
[19:14] <ubstud> Anyone?
[19:14] <adaptr> so I am know typing handi-capable in 800x600...:(
[19:14] <adaptr> *now
[19:14] <tushyd>  can anyone help getting thinkfinger to run with a built-in Upek TCS4BA? It's not showing up in lsusb
[19:14] <Pici> ]]R1cK[[: no, see topic
[19:15] <USMarine> why does synaptic reps window change appearence and how can i make it go back
[19:15] <ploom> KenSentMe, syncevolution sounds interesting - So far my bluetooth phone has been the sychronizer
[19:15] <swatF1RESTORM> PriceChild, when I look at the /etc/network/interfaces it has all my correct network settings but still can't get to my network. any more ideas?
[19:15] <Pici> USMarine: Because it is running under root priveleges which are not the same as your account's.
[19:16] <KenSentMe> ploom, search the forum for a howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3526473 , but i can't get it running on gutsy. Was working fine on feisty though
[19:16] <tushyd> anyone?
[19:16] <ubstud> Hello??
[19:16] <src> swatF1RESTORM, ifconfig reports the settings ok, routing table, is your link up on eth?
[19:16] <Pici> USMarine: http://lifehacker.com/software/notag/re+theme-your-sudo-applications-263153.php
[19:16] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, are you also connected via wifi?
[19:17] <]]R1cK[[> how to see my ip address on console? =S
[19:17] <jdong> ifconfig
[19:17] <PriceChild> adaptr, I asked for information earlier.
[19:17] <kerbau> bch820: no uch file or directory in /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[19:17] <adaptr> PriceChild true, one sec
[19:17] <swatF1RESTORM> PriceChild, I was connecting via wifi but right clicked and disabled wifi for the time being
[19:18] <profanephobia> how can i add TLS/SSL support to pidgin without having to recompile?
[19:18] <bch820> kerbau: if you have vmware installed, and have a windows xp guest os, and you have it setup for bridged networking, the XP can be given a static or dynamic address. you would configure this inside of XP. You have to setup the bridging with VMware. slocate vmware-config.pl or rerun the vmware-install.pl
[19:18] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, how are you trying to use your network?
[19:18]  * _alekx_ says "hello" to all
[19:18] <ader10> I have a question for conky users: Does anybody have an idea of how to get the vertical lines here? http://www.xfce-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/64710-1.jpg
[19:18] <Pici> !clone > kahrytan (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:18] <ubotwo> Pici: Error: That person could not be found in any channel you're in
[19:18] <tushyd>  can anyone help getting thinkfinger to run with a built-in Upek TCS4BA? It's not showing up in lsusb
[19:18] <Pici> !clone
[19:19] <ubotwo> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[19:19] <swatF1RESTORM> PriceChild, I'm trying to access my old files (from feisty) that are on my windows machine.
[19:19] <ploom> KenSentMe,  heh, sorry I can't help you, instead you might have enlightened me :-)
[19:20] <kahrytan> PM is off pici
[19:20] <dpml> anyone here a IcedTead addict?
[19:20] <PriceChild> !offtopic > dpml
[19:20] <tushyd> anyone know how to set up a finger print reader
[19:20] <kahrytan> ubotu doesnt send PMs right now.
[19:20] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[19:20] <ubstud> how can I get freenx to recognize the proxy that I'm behind??
[19:20] <profanephobia> how can i add TLS/SSL support to pidgin without having to recompile in gutsy?
[19:20] <dpml> PriceChild: its on topic because that the reasons I'm upping to 7.10 !!
[19:21] <adaptr> PriceChild http://apache.pastebin.ca/740090
[19:21] <PriceChild> dpml, even that's not "offically" ontopic yet ;)
[19:22] <dpml> PriceChild: but I'm arrogant and opinionated!
[19:22] <Gek_> what the apt-get forr the gstreamer extra plugins?
[19:22] <PriceChild> adaptr, hmm wierd... not sure sorry.
[19:22] <Ubersoldat> PriceChild is right, until 00:00 GMT time all questions should go to #ubuntu+1
[19:22] <kerbau> bch820: i can connect my host os to guest os...but can't connect to internet on guest os if i using bridged connection..if i choose NAT connect i can connect to but is same ip host os....i want get different ip
[19:22] <adaptr> I know PriceChild , I had gotten that far - but now that I look at it, I wonder where /shm etc are
[19:23] <adaptr> maybe the upgrade failed to update fstab... checking
[19:23] <tushyd> my built-in finger print reader (Upek TCS4BA) isn't showing up in LSUSB, what do I do?
[19:23] <ader10> I have a question for conky users: Does anybody have an idea of how to get the vertical lines here? http://www.xfce-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/64710-1.jpg
[19:23] <PriceChild> adaptr, you don't really have anything missing.
[19:23] <Pici> ader10: Have you tried asking in #conky?
[19:23] <kerbau> bch820: are u understand..my english is bad
[19:24] <adaptr> PriceChild no ? how about the shm mounts ? aren't they supposed to be in fstab too ?
[19:24] <adaptr> perhaps not
[19:24] <kerbau> bch820: are u understand what i mean..my english is bad
[19:24] <Ubersoldat> ader10: what vertical lines?
[19:24] <PriceChild> adaptr, none in mine ;)
[19:24] <spot_> Is it possible to make a perform with auth in Xchat?
[19:24] <adaptr> well, I am not going to waste time like I did last fuckup - I will wipe it and install 7.10 clean
[19:24] <wz> some one help me? i can't login QQ
[19:24] <shriphani> I don't know if this is the right place to ask. I want a distro that runs breezy on 256 mb ram, supports ipw2200.
[19:25] <tushyd> please help... my built-in finger print reader (Upek TCS4BA) isn't showing up in LSUSB, what do I do?
[19:25] <Seeker`> adaptr: Watch your langugae please
[19:25] <boris_> #ubuntu-hr
[19:25] <adaptr> that, my gentle n00bs, is why one puts /home on its own partition :)
[19:25] <adaptr> Seeker` no need, going to do something useful
[19:25] <Ubersoldat> lol
[19:25] <wz> anyone?
[19:25] <kitche> shriphani: xubuntu is good or ubuntu works but I prefer xubuntu myself
[19:25] <Pici> wz: just ask
[19:26] <shriphani> kitche: ubuntu makes my lappy suffer. my fan hasn't stopped since I installed it.
[19:26] <riotkittie> i never put home on its own partition
[19:26] <kitche> shriphani: so install xubuntu it might lighter
[19:26] <shriphani> I am on pcbsd now and it can't support my microphone.
[19:26] <brk3> hi, with the gutsy coming out tomorrow its time to back up my home directory. any advice whats the smoothest way to go about doing this? should I tarball it or use some other backup program?
[19:26] <Pici> !noob | adaptr
[19:26] <ubotwo> adaptr: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[19:26] <ader10> Ubersoldat: up and down
[19:27] <kitche> shriphani: or slackware, dsl, debian or pcbsd isn't really a linux distro anyways it's a bsd
[19:27] <ader10> Pici: Yes, they were clueless
[19:27] <kst-> anyone using the latest proprietary (8.40.x) driver from ATI?
[19:27] <kerbau> bch820: how to setup bridging on xp..please help me
[19:27] <src> brk3, tar works
[19:27] <Pici> kerbau: You are running Windows XP?
[19:27] <bch820> kerbau: I understand. If you set it for bridging and it doesn't work, its not a vmware issue. its your dsl or home router not giving out a second IP
[19:27] <shriphani> kitche: yeah. the transition is a bit confusing. the hierarchy especially.
[19:27] <Noodlesgc> Why are all mu ports open, and how can i close them? I'm on ubuntu 7.04
[19:27] <adaptr> ubotwo do you have a cogent response to my question ?
[19:27] <ubotwo> adaptr: Error: "do" is not a valid command.
[19:27] <kerbau> yes
[19:27] <brk3> src: any idea whats the best command to preserve my correct permissions etc?
[19:28] <riotkittie>  i cp -aRp ~ /some/partition/on/another/device
[19:28] <kerbau> Pici: yes irun win xp
[19:28] <src> brk3, tar also works
[19:28] <adaptr> or perhaps Pici does
[19:28] <brk3> src: yes, sorry I meant arguments for tar
[19:28] <fr500> type0
[19:28] <fr500> no clue?
[19:28] <Pici> kerbau: If you are running Windows, you should be asking your question in ##windows , This channel is only for Ubuntu support.
[19:28] <bch820> kerbau: set bridging in vmware. in XP, just set it to DHCP. If you're not getting an IP, its your DHCP server
[19:28] <src> brk3, tar cvf <file>
[19:28] <bch820> kerbau: do you have any kind of home router?
[19:28] <marf> anybody know why the Add/Remove programs version of VMWare player says 'i386 hardware not supported'? I'm running gutsy
[19:29] <brk3> src: or I suppose I could just use the nautilus gui :p
[19:29] <tushyd> my built-in finger print reader (Upek TCS4BA) isn't showing up in LSUSB, what do I do?
[19:29] <kerbau> Pici: i run win xp on vmware
[19:29] <Noodlesgc> wtf is wrong with SignOff
[19:29] <src> i dont know what nautilus gui is
[19:29] <ble07> hey
[19:29] <kerbau> my host os is ubuntu rock.........
[19:29] <adaptr> okay... re-stating: I have upgraded 7.04 to 7.10, rebooted, now the 2.6.22 kernel fails to mount my home partition claiming it is already mounted or in use; fstab was not altered, I am not a beginner, has anybody seen this behaviour with the new kernel ? booting the old one (2.6.20) works fine
[19:29] <leku> nautilus is the file manager for gnome
[19:29] <Pici> kerbau: I'm sorry, I dont know anything about vmware.
[19:29] <dpml> src: nautilus is the equivalent of explorer
[19:29] <riotkittie> adaptr: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[19:29] <Gangerli> hi
[19:29] <leku> nautilus == junk
[19:30] <kitche> adaptr: #ubuntu+1
[19:30] <leku> wow what ma i doing in here
[19:30] <adaptr> riotkittie heh should have known
[19:30] <Gangerli> I'm trying to get GeForce 8600 GT to work
[19:30] <reddfox> Anybody know how to make GDM start at boot?
[19:30] <src> dpml, yeah. i figured that it's something like that
[19:30] <Pici> !test
[19:30] <ubotwo> Failed.
[19:30] <reddfox> for whatever reason it won't for me
[19:30] <Gangerli> but it wouldn't... how do I do it?
[19:30] <ader10> I have a question for conky users: Does anybody have an idea of how to get the vertical lines here? http://www.xfce-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/64710-1.jpg
[19:30] <erUSUL> reddfox: sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults
[19:30] <Gek_> I tried aptitude search for gstream extra but dont' see it in the list
[19:31] <Gek_> what is the apt-get command for the gstreamer extra plugins?????
[19:31] <Gangerli> what drivers do I need?
[19:31] <dpml> src: its has some features over explorwer that are interesting - but it has bugs as well
[19:31] <Pici> ader10: Perhaps they are the uncode/ascii line drawing characters.
[19:31] <ader10> pici: I tried the pipe, do you have any ideas?
[19:31] <shriphani> kerbau: another trouble is that I only have a wireless connection. If that doesn't work, I can't read whatever fantastic documentation or w/e any distro provides online.
[19:31] <src> dpml, as long as you can run stuff from it, drag and drop stuff, it's great IMO
[19:31] <kst-> Gek_  you can TAB the names of the packages once you entered e.g. gstream
[19:32] <titun> what else do i need after http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/ to connect to my XP machine with samba
[19:32] <dpml> src: just keep in mind that cut, copy, paste across apps - sucks
[19:32] <Pici> ader10: http://sti.pooq.com/Tech/UnicodeLineDrawing
[19:32] <src> dpml, for text?
[19:32] <dpml> yep
[19:32] <dpml> seems to loose context
[19:33] <src> works great for me: select, click-wheel
[19:33] <reddfox> erUSUL:  System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist.
[19:33] <titun> do i have to change the workgroup in the Global setting of smb.conf?
[19:33] <Gabriella> Can someone help me with an external HD?
[19:33] <tushyd> please help... my built-in finger print reader (Upek TCS4BA) isn't showing up in LSUSB, what do I do?
[19:33] <swatF1RESTORM> PriceChild, just restarted and still can't get to my network. I'm thinking it might be a problem with gutsy because it worked fine in feisty.
[19:33] <dpml> src: could be an issue when running a large numner of applications simultaneously
[19:34] <src> wheel click!?
[19:34] <dpml> src: but I'm just guessing
[19:34] <USMarine> Gabriella doesn't it work just by plug it in?
[19:34] <tushyd> anyone???
[19:34] <src> dunno. i don't run too many things at once. bad attention span
[19:35] <Kworth> I establish an connection over ppp - its a modem --- can anyone tell me how the login script needs to be configured --- or do i put just ppp there?
[19:35] <USMarine> in kde it usually does
[19:35] <Gabriella> I'm using xubuntu actually
[19:35] <Gabriella> And it used to until a few days ago
[19:35] <ader10> pici: they show up as those dreaded boxes
[19:35] <swatF1RESTORM> Anyone else having problems applying wired network settings in gutsy?
[19:35] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, you haven't given any symptoms whatsoever.
[19:35] <dpml> Gabriella: ppp script will need a username and password
[19:36] <USMarine> Gabriella i use kde, i'm not sure if related to periferals it works differently
[19:36] <Pici> ader10: Then look for the ascii box/line drawing characters.  My internet here is acting up
[19:36] <null_pointer_us> please help! I updated my kernel 2.6.20-15 to 2.6.20-16, and now ubuntu reboots itself when trying to start
[19:36]  * dpml hasn't played with a ppp script in 20 years
[19:36] <swatF1RESTORM> PriceChild, what other info can I offer?
[19:36] <Kworth> dpml: so how is it send? via send: username XXXX or how?
 Gabriella: ppp script will need a username and password <--- Care to explain? I'm new to linux so I don't know anything fancy
[19:36] <stray77> is there any hope for installing ubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso on my raid 10 array along side of xp? The system is an Asus P5W-DH Deluxe using Intel 82801GR/GH controller (ICH7R cross-configured with the silicon image controller)??? I really wanna try out Beryl.
[19:36] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, well... what's actually wrong for a start.
[19:36] <tushyd> my fingerprint reader isn't showing up in LSUSB... help
[19:37] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, you've basically said your wired connection doesn't work.... that's not much info to go on.
[19:37] <null_pointer_us> stray77: I was reading something about "fakeRAID" howto
[19:37] <rockets> what do i need to pass to rsync to make it update only change files, rather then replacing all files (or is that the default)
[19:37] <joerack> what does "the /home/joe directory does not belong to you" mean?
[19:37] <dpml> Gabriella: me too - but ppp scripts isn't unix - its ancient history - we are talking about very old telecom protocols here
[19:37] <Gabriella> Yeah, know nothing about those
[19:37] <src> rockets, -u will not overwrite newer files
[19:38] <Kworth> dpml: how do i send the username just plain or do i have to put "username" in front or what?
[19:38] <kst-> how many hours left till gutsy? what timezone is used for the date of release? :p
[19:38] <Gabriella> My main trouble is that I can't see the external in fdisk -l, and don't know where to go from there
[19:38] <ader10> Pici: It doesn't work :<
[19:38] <Gabriella> I tried dmesg but don't really know what to look for
[19:38] <src> rockets, else rsync does not copy everything each time
[19:38] <swatF1RESTORM> PriceChild, I enter the settings in via system > admin > network and in the past there is a 'check' icon in the upper right hand corner that you click to apply the settings you've just entered. That button is grayed out and I am not able to apply the settings I entered.
[19:39] <rockets> src, its not about newer files
[19:39] <openforlife> kst-,  get the link to your local mirror and refresh every once in a while (or set opera to autoreload).
[19:39] <rockets> its about error checking in this case. if files are identical i dont want to copy them again
[19:39] <Aleksander-pl> Hello. Is Gusty Gibbon being released at 0:01 tomorrow or later?
[19:39] <dpml> Gabriella: presumably your trying to establish a modem connection - the software you are using shoul be reading a configuration file - thwere should be some documentation about how it reads userneames and passwords for the connection.
[19:39] <PriceChild> swatF1RESTORM, well then you've not entered enough information, or you've entered something incorrectly.
[19:39] <Gabriella> Dpml: You must have the wrong person
[19:39] <openforlife> Aleksander-pl, depends on your timezone. Get a link to your local mirror and keep refreshing.
[19:39] <Gabriella> I have trouble with my external HD
[19:39] <src> rockets, copies only the what's not already present on the target machine
[19:39] <riotkittie> Gabriella: what kind of external is it?
[19:40] <rockets> ok
[19:40] <kiuk> anyone have an idea why my emacs won't run jde-mode?
[19:40] <dpml> Gabriella: sorry
[19:40] <Kworth> dpml: hello Im the right person can you send me a link for a documentation on how to communicte with such an server?
[19:40] <Gabriella> Kittie: Regular USB 2.0 external running on FAT32
[19:40] <joerack> what does "the /home/joe directory does not belong to you" mean?
[19:40] <dpml> Kworth: I can't send you a link - I'm just working from memory - I did this stuff about 20 years ago
[19:41] <stray77> null_pointer_us, thanks ill see what i can find
[19:41] <src> joerack, owner is someone else
[19:41] <orkid> is there a release party channel?
[19:41] <swatF1RESTORM> PriceChild, I entered the same info into feisty and it worked. it's ok  I guess i'l just use wifi for now.
[19:41] <USMarine> orkid topic?
[19:41] <shriphani> at what time will gutsy be released (GMT + 5:30 preferred)
[19:41] <swatF1RESTORM> PriceChild, thanks for trying to help :-)
[19:41] <Kworth> dpml: well where could I find a man for this stuff - like how to send username?
[19:41] <orkid> sorry, i don't see it all, will check.
[19:41] <PriceChild> shriphani, /topic
[19:41] <orkid> thanks USMarine
[19:41] <riotkittie> Gabriella: have you tried manually mounting it?
[19:41] <openforlife> shriphani, as before: it depends. check your local mirror once in a while.
[19:42] <Gabriella> Kittie: I don't know how to do that since I can't see the device info anywhere
[19:42] <tushyd> my fingerprint reader isn't showing up in LSUSB... help
[19:42] <USMarine> lspci
[19:42] <riotkittie> Gabriella: how many internal hard drives do you have?
[19:42] <Gabriella> 2
[19:42] <dpml> Kworth: what is the application you are using to setup the ppp connection?
[19:42] <null_pointer_us> could someone help me with my ATI drivers--and is this the right channel for that?
[19:42] <dpml> Kworth: what is the OS?
[19:43] <Kworth> Kworth: Ubuntu - KPPP
[19:43] <USMarine> Gabriella sata or IDE?
[19:43] <Gabriella> IDE
[19:43] <USMarine> hmm
[19:43] <Kworth> dpml: Ubuntu - KPPP - i can establish connection but then I don't know what to send/expect?
[19:43] <openforlife> Everybody: If you are waiting for 7.10, keep checking here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[19:43] <dpml> what happens when you open up a terminal and type 'man KPPP' ?
[19:43] <tsukasa> anyone know of a lightweight mail server i can run?
[19:43] <Winball> null_pointer_us sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[19:44] <USMarine> Gabriella try -> mkdir Gabriella && sudo mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat Gabriella/
[19:44] <Kworth> dpml: it says there is no manual
[19:44] <dpml> Kworth: ok - checking
[19:44] <Gabriella> Ummm, sda1 is the first of my 2 internals I believe
[19:44] <src> tsukasa, qmail
[19:44] <dpml> Kworth: yep - hang on some more
[19:44] <riotkittie> then sdc1, Gabriella
[19:44] <Gabriella> Didn't work
[19:44] <null_pointer_us> Winball: thanks, but I I should have been clearer. I'm using the Ubuntu proprietary driver app and the ATI drivers won't draw the desktop properly after rebooting
[19:44] <Gabriella> Like I said, fdisk -l doesn't find any info for the drive
[19:44] <Kworth> dpml: yeah im used to it - the service provider always says that :)
[19:45] <stray77> null_pointer_us, you could try sudo apt-get install automatix2bleeder
[19:45] <dpml> :-)
[19:45] <riotkittie> Gabriella: does it show in lsusb?
[19:45] <Guill> guillaume, you should really stop using that nick :)
[19:45] <Gabriella> It does
[19:45] <stray77> Ax Bleeder (only available on Edgy) has support for some ATI cards.. but it's overall a very conservative list..
[19:45] <dpml> Kworth: I'm installing it now
[19:45] <Kworth> dpml: okay i figured it out - I have a connection now
[19:45] <Swiatecki> Hi there, can anyone help me compiling a program ? :) (Linux noo)
[19:46] <Swiatecki> *b
[19:46] <dpml> Kworth: bugger!
[19:46] <Kworth> dpml: but how do I get my browser to use it?
[19:46] <Kworth> dpml: bugger?
[19:46] <shmoolikipod> hello
[19:46] <null_pointer_us> stray77: I'm using HD series card, so...not sure if that will work
[19:46] <kerbau_> bch820: yes i using home router to connect to internet using pppoe
[19:46] <shmoolikipod> from were can i get ubutntu 7.10 ?
[19:46] <dwxreaper> many files are missing after boot randomly, this is a desktop, but i believe it has to do with the hibernate function
[19:46] <dwxreaper> http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/2007/02/11/fixing-software-suspend-hibernate-with-uswsusp-in-ubuntu-feisty-and-edgy/
[19:46] <dwxreaper> any ideas how to easily fix this?
[19:46] <shmoolikipod> i don't find any torrents :(
[19:46] <kerbau_> bch820: how i can tweak my home router to work for second ip
[19:46] <Kworth> dpml: i realised it sends that stuff by itself I just need to figure out how to route my trafic over that line and not the normal network line
[19:46] <dpml> Kworth: as in I've just installed KPPP and all dependents and I didn;'t need to
[19:47] <josh43> Does anyone have an RSS feed for the gibbon torrent so I don't have to stay up all night?
[19:47] <PriceChild> shmoolikipod, its not released yet. See /topic
[19:47] <PriceChild> josh43, its not released yet. See /topic
[19:47] <shmoolikipod> i dont' c the topic :(
[19:47] <Kworth> dpml: Yeah but my browser just doesn't use the connection - when I unplug the network cable - it just doesnt work anymore my internet
[19:47] <shmoolikipod> i m on MIRC PriceChild
[19:47] <fenixnegro> alguem por acaso sabe como faço pra resolver um erro synapitc    E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:47] <bch820> kerbau_: login to the routers web interface and setup a dhcp server. good luck.
[19:48] <josh43> PriceChild: Of course not... WHich is why I was wondering about an RSS feed so that I can download it the moment it is up
[19:48] <stray77> null_pointer_us, how bout trying this http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html (it does both nvidia and ati)
[19:48] <PriceChild> shmoolikipod, get a propper client or /topic
[19:48] <PriceChild> josh43, Don't think so sorry.
[19:48] <josh43> PriceChild: Thanks
[19:48] <Gabriella> Riotkittie: Any suggestions?
[19:48] <sprinkle> helo
[19:49] <Guill> guillaume, ok...
[19:49] <shmoolikipod> PriceChild: ASA i get ubuntu ;)
[19:49] <dpml> Kworth: so the current status is that you can establish a modem connection using PPP - the next thing is to establish a TCP/IP conection over PPP - and after that 0- you can play with other thuings lik Firefox
[19:49] <sprinkle> can you help me to install a option globetrotter 1.8 in ubuntu?
[19:49] <riotkittie> Gabriella: no. stupid question - you are prefixing fdisk with 'sudo' ?
[19:49] <Kworth> dpml okay understand, so how do I establish the tcp/ip over ppp?
[19:49] <dwxreaper> err, sometimes i have to reboot this ten times to get my files back
[19:49] <dwxreaper> http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/2007/02/11/fixing-software-suspend-hibernate-with-uswsusp-in-ubuntu-feisty-and-edgy/
[19:49] <dwxreaper> many files are missing after boot randomly, this is a desktop, but i believe it has to do with the hibernate function
[19:50] <Gabriella> Kittie: I am :)
[19:50] <dwxreaper> which is the case right now
[19:50] <null_pointer_us> stray77: thanks, I'll give that a try; but I think I may simply be missing an extension or something--any idea where to find what extensions should be in xorg.conf?
[19:50] <sprinkle> can you help me to install a option globetrotter 1.8 in ubuntu?
[19:50] <shane_> exit
[19:50] <riotkittie> have you tried mounting it as /hda1 ?
[19:50] <Gabriella> I haven't
[19:50] <Gabriella> Give me a moment
[19:50] <dpml> Kworth: well, I'm not at all sure - but I wasn't at all sure about seting up PPP - but that worked ok - so we have a good track record - and confidence is everything in this game
[19:51] <sprinkle> ------------------------------------------------------ can you help me to install a option globetrotter 1.8 in ubuntu?
[19:51] <stray77> null_pointer_us, im afraid not, i cant get ubuntu on this system to play. btw i have an ati x1900xtx
[19:51] <Pici> !repeat | sprinkle
[19:51] <Kworth> dpml: thats right coach :)
[19:51] <ubotwo> sprinkle: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:51] <riotkittie> i'm not expecting it to be an hda... but stranger things have happened.  <hopes>
[19:51] <dpml> Kworth: ROTFL
[19:51] <null_pointer_us> stray77, I heard the latest ATI fglrx or whatever does not work with X-series cards...but this was on Mandriva 2008 One
[19:52] <dpml> Kworth: I'm thinking/looking/etc
[19:52] <ader10> What's the fastest way for me to view/compare all of my fonts?
[19:52] <Kworth> dpml: thanks... :)
[19:52] <sprinkle> i've searched for, but i don't find nothing...
[19:52] <Gabriella> Kittie: Device doesn't exist
[19:52] <Pici> sprinkle: What is globetrotter?
[19:52] <USMarine> basketball team imo
[19:53] <sprinkle> is a pcmcia card to access to the internet
[19:53] <lugnut64607> How do I unpartion Ubuntu so that I have my full hard drive for windows XP?
[19:53] <dpml> Kworth: under the 'System/Adminstration/Nework Settings
[19:53] <dpml> 'Kworth: what is visible?
[19:53] <poningru_> sprinkle, for many things
[19:53] <lugnut64607> How do I unpartion Ubuntu so that I have my full hard drive for windows xp
[19:53] <sprinkle> is a card gprs and umts and hsdpa
[19:53] <USMarine> lugnut64607 #windows
[19:53] <riotkittie> lugnut64607: you delete the partition with gparted or something. tho XP should be able to at least see the ubuntu partition and remove it, i believe
[19:53] <poningru_> sprinkle, yes iirc there are cards for that
[19:53] <lugnut64607> why #windows
[19:54] <riotkittie> Gabriella: arrrrgh. i'm sorry. i'm out of ideas. :|
[19:54] <Jimb_> External usb
[19:54] <Jimb_> ?
[19:54] <dpml> Kworth: woops - "System/Adminstration/Network"
[19:54] <PriceChild> lugnut64607, ask in ##windows how to delete and expand partitions, and how to restore your master boot record.
[19:54] <sprinkle> who can help me?
[19:54] <Kworth> dpml: one sec
[19:54] <Gabriella> Bah'
[19:54] <USMarine> sprinkle if you tell the problem
[19:54] <daws> what's a good replacement for cmd.exe?
[19:54] <Gabriella> Can I paste a couple of lines of text into the channel?
[19:54] <lugnut64607> well, Ubuntu got me into this mess, so shouldn't someone HERE be able to help me
[19:55] <USMarine> daws Konsole
[19:55] <Pici> Gabriella: no, use the pastebin
[19:55] <erUSUL> !cli | daws
[19:55] <ubotu> daws: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:55] <Pici> !paste > Gabriella (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:55] <ubotwo> daws: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:55] <ubotwo> Pici: Error: That person could not be found in any channel you're in
[19:55] <Pici> !paste | Gabriella
[19:55] <ubotu> Gabriella: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:55] <ubotwo> Gabriella: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:55] <Kworth> dpml: there is a wireless (from internal), normal network (active) and modem (not configured)
[19:55] <Jimb_> Is it a external usb gab?
[19:55] <IMYojimb1> how do i find out what app is running on a certain port?
[19:55] <neohaker> !compiz-fusion
[19:55] <Gabriella> Thank you
[19:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[19:55] <ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[19:55] <Gabriella> Jimb: It is
[19:55] <PriceChild> lugnut64607, use gparted on an ubuntu live cd to delete your ubuntu partition and enlarge your windows one. Then use a windows install cd to repair your masterboot record.
[19:55] <PriceChild> lugnut64607, you will need help from ##windows with the second part.
[19:55] <Pici> IMYojimb1: netstat   (netstat -tanp) usually works.  Check the manpage for more options
[19:55] <dpml> Kworth: ok the modem sounds interesting
[19:55] <Jimb_> Is it powered?
[19:55] <erUSUL> Pici: two bots responding?
[19:56] <Pici> PriceChild: can we +q ubotwo?
[19:56] <AndersT> Hello. Having problems installing Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell Laptop.
[19:56] <neohaker> !compizfusion
[19:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizfusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:56] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[19:56] <PriceChild> ubotwo part #ubuntu
[19:56] <Gabriella> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40958/ <--- dmesg text regarding USB
[19:56] <PriceChild> Sorry pici :)
[19:56] <Pici> erUSUL: thanks for the heads up
[19:56] <Gabriella> Jimb: Get's the power through the USB
[19:56] <erUSUL> Pici: no problem
[19:56] <sprinkle> where can i download GCOM?
[19:56] <dpml> Kworth: select the modem connection and click on properties - are they changeable?
[19:56] <Jimb_> Front or back usb gab?
[19:57] <Ben_Cs> hello
[19:57] <Gabriella> Using it in the back
[19:57] <Kworth> yeah but the issue is that i can just choose some devices like /dev/modem or /dev/tty01
[19:57] <Gabriella> Since my case has not front slots
[19:57] <slimjimflim> join ##linux-coders
[19:57] <Kworth> yeah but the issue is that i can just choose some devices like /dev/modem or /dev/ttyS0 <--- corrected
[19:57] <dpml> Kworth: there should be an 'enable this connection' checkbox
[19:57] <pawan1234_> hi
[19:57] <Jimb_> It is a 2.5" usb with notebook drive?
[19:58] <AndersT> Hello?
[19:58] <daws> erUSUL, lol, thanks, but I mean for windows. I'm a BSD native
[19:58] <pawan1234> hi
[19:58] <neohaker> Hi all can somebody tell me a safe method to install compiz-fusion on ubuntu feisty
[19:58] <IMYojimb1> Pici: for some reason apache cant open because "no listening sockets available," and i dont see any open server on port 80
[19:58] <pawan1234> when is the new version coming out
[19:58] <hyper_ch> anyone knows at what time Gutsy will be released?
[19:58] <Kworth> dpml: yeah I can <-- but what do I choose under modem? /dev/modem/ or /dev/ttyS0 ?
[19:58] <Gabriella> Jimb: It is
[19:58] <daws> hypa7ia, thursday
[19:58] <dpml> Kworth: Like I have a clue!
[19:58] <erUSUL> daws: Cygwin? (it inckudes a unix shell)
[19:58] <Winball> hyper_ch #ubuntu-release-party , ask there
[19:58] <Kworth> dpml: okay so just try I guess :)
[19:59] <Winball> hyper and check topic next time
[19:59] <lugnut64607> screw you guys. i cant get no awnsers
[19:59] <kerbau__> bch820: i try first.....thanks
[19:59] <pawan1234> its thursday today
[19:59] <Winball> hyper_ch and check topic next time
[19:59] <rockets> I'm about to backup 700gb of data via USB 1.1
[19:59] <daws> erUSUL, I have cygwin and will be using bash, but I need the ability to maximize to the whole screen, like putty or gnome-terminal
[19:59] <pawan1234> wehre is the new version
[19:59] <Kworth> dpml: I need to disconnect the other cable to see if it works <-- so I am away for a few secs - ok?
[19:59] <daws> pawan1234, today is wednesday
[19:59] <Pici> IMYojimb1: If you're using apache from the ubuntu repos it should 'just-work' otherwise, you might need to play with xinetd.  I'm not really sure how to do that.
[19:59] <dpml> Kworth: try the fist, if that works your golden, other try the second, if that works your golden, otherwise your hosed.
[19:59] <Pici> pawan1234: Its not out yet.
[19:59] <Jimb_> Hold the drive near your ear and listen for noise.  And look to see if the light is green or yellow
[19:59] <pro_> sypnatic doesnt allow me to go to advanced mode anymore
[20:00] <dpml> Kworth: ok
[20:00] <pro_> how do i solve the problem?
[20:00] <Kworth> dpml: I shall return... :)
[20:00] <rockets> pawan1234, oct 18th
[20:00] <pawan1234> in india it is thursday
[20:00] <dpml> Kworth: they all say that
[20:00] <AndersT> I would like some help to install Ubuntu on my Dell-laptop. Can anyone help me?
[20:00] <IMYojimb1> Pici: ... no u see it worked before... its not a first time install. something i recently did blocking it
[20:00] <pawan> hi
[20:00] <null_pointer_us> bye
[20:00] <Pici> IMYojimb1: Any ideas?
[20:01] <MrAustin1337> Hey.  I have and issue with an intel video card with ubuntu feisty 7.04, who should I talk to?
[20:01] <pawan> icechat
 Hold the drive near your ear and listen for noise.  And look to see if the light is green or yellow <--- No noise since it doesn't have any reason to spin and search the HD, but it is getting power and the light is green
[20:01] <Jimb_> Your most obvious issue is you are not getting enuf power to the drive
[20:01] <robboplus> hello folks
[20:02] <dpml> Gabriella: are you taking into account occupation health and safety considerations?
[20:02] <IMYojimb1> Pici: i'm pretty sure some other server is blocking it. how do i filter the results of the command u gave me?
 Your most obvious issue is you are not getting enuf power to the drive <--- That seems weird since the drive was working fine a couple of days ago
[20:02] <Jimb_> If you were not getting enuf power you'd hear noise bcause it couldn't spin up
[20:02] <robboplus> what will happen if my box got 2 IPs assigned and i run a daemon that listens on certain port on 0.0.0.0 - does it mean that it will be available on BOTH IPs or just ONE of them? first one for instance
[20:02] <Gabriella> And I have not added any usb devices
[20:02] <Pici> IMYojimb1: netstat -tanp | grep 80   for port 80 or apache, or whatever you want.
[20:03] <Gabriella> The HD won't spin if Ubuntu doesn't identify it, will it?
[20:03] <Jimb_> Switch usb slots
[20:03] <SirBob1701> hey i just upgraded to gutsy and pidgin has no icons how can i rectify this?
[20:03] <Jimb_> The drive always spins
[20:03] <dwxreaper> something is seriously wrong with ubuntu fiesty fawn
[20:03] <Winball> YES
[20:04] <dwxreaper> when i reboot sometimes many files are missing, randomly they will come back after reboot
[20:04] <Pici> dwxreaper: What was the last time you fscked?
[20:04] <dpml> SirBob1701: apt-get remove pidgin ?
[20:04] <dwxreaper> i believe it has something to do with a hybernatation system, because of the entries in dmesg
[20:04] <SirBob1701> dpml: i already tried it
[20:04] <Jimb_> I have many usb and have had similar probs to yours many times
[20:04] <IMYojimb1> Pici: is there a gui forent end to configure apache
[20:04] <SirBob1701> dpml: looks like the pixmaps folder is missing
[20:04] <Pici> IMYojimb1: Nope.
[20:04] <dpml>  SirBob1701: oh damb
[20:04] <dwxreaper> pici: never, other than when it runs by itself
[20:05] <Pici> dwxreaper: I'd initate one manually: `sudo touch /forcefsck` then reboot.
[20:05] <bulmer> robboplus: what has been your experience? it listen to both?
[20:05] <dpml> SirBob1701: don't have pidgin
[20:05] <dwxreaper> pici: is it okay to do that, i have one partition on this machine, it's mounted
[20:05] <Jimb_> Attach it to another comp say a win xp box and verify gab
[20:05] <dwxreaper> pici: that will run fsck on reboot?
[20:05] <IMYojimb1> Pici: it wierd : " (13): make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
[20:05] <Pici> dwxreaper: Indeed.
[20:06] <SirBob1701> wonder if i can get it from the source
[20:06] <dwxreaper> pici: ok like that? awesome?
[20:06] <robboplus> bulmer i just don't know... so will it listen to BOTH at once?
[20:06] <Pici> IMYojimb1: The port number should just be 80 in the config file, not :80 is that what yours has?
[20:06] <florob> hi, does anyone have a clue a) why the mpd user that runs mpd is by default not in the audio group, b) mpd works anyway most of the time (but very unstable)?
[20:06] <bulmer> robboplus: why do you run the daemon and find out
[20:06] <bulmer> robboplus: why dont you run the daemon and find out?
[20:06] <robboplus> bulmer i will have to compile it first which takes over an hour
[20:07] <Jimb_> With it plugged in and u reboot do u see it listed in post screens?
[20:07] <dwxreaper> pici: is that command going to run fsck on my reboot, or now while the partition is mounted
[20:07] <IMYojimb1> Pici: i didnt touch the config , and it worked a day a go. so no
[20:07] <Pici> dwxreaper: When you reboot.
[20:07] <robboplus> bulmer and it will be pointless unless it can listen on both ips.. so just wondering what 0.0.0.0 means
[20:07] <AndersT> Can deamon-tools affect my installation of Ubuntu?
[20:07] <Pici> dwxreaper: Fsck cant run when you're mounted.
[20:07] <Pici> IMYojimb1: Did you change your hostname or IP address? (if you put your ip in your config?)
[20:07] <bulmer> robboplus: sometimes you have to find out for yourself..you wrote the program yourself?
[20:08] <Jimb_> Most 2.5" usb enclosures also have a second power plug.  Does yours?
[20:08] <kishan> hi i have installed gutsy 7.10 RC will it automatically update to final or i need to use some command to update it
[20:08]  * sea4ever will be right back!
[20:08] <erUSUL> AndersT: no
[20:09] <dpml> LEAVEMEALONE: why?
[20:09] <erUSUL> kishan: automatically as a normal update-manager
[20:09] <Spec> robboplus: 0.0.0.0 means it's not bound to any specific IPs, and will listen to all of them.
[20:09] <bulmer> robboplus: look for the listen address of INADDR_ANY on the code or something similar
[20:09] <kishan> thanks erUSUL
[20:09] <denni2> hello
[20:09] <Jimdb> bah, gabriella is no longer in the chat and i was wasting my time
[20:10] <MrAustin1337> Hey.  I have and issue with an intel video card with ubuntu feisty 7.04, who should I talk to?
[20:10] <denni2> does someone knows how to use wpa
[20:10] <robboplus> Spec, bulmer: thank you very much - and is it ok to just block traffic on the port for the ip i don't want it to listen on?
[20:10] <kst-> !wpa
[20:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:10] <Pici> !final > kishan (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[20:10] <denni2> if read it but i'm totaly new and don't understand it
[20:10] <Spec> robboplus: what do you mean by ok?
[20:10] <kst-> !ask | MrAustin1337
[20:10] <denni2> i'm dutch
[20:10] <ubotu> MrAustin1337: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[20:10] <dpml> MrAustin1337: best approach is to post a concrete description of the issue you are dealing with and see who responds - the more details the better.
[20:10] <kishan> thanks Pici
[20:11] <dwxreaper> pici: it said ok for everything on reboot, i'm not sure if that resolved the issue, the issue is very random
[20:11] <robboplus> Spec i mean if i use iptables to cut that port for IP1 will it also make port on IP2 unavaliable? because of the 0.0.0.0 stuff.
[20:11] <slimjimflim> i've got network issues, i have a new nic: eth0:avahi on ubuntu feisty. i just installed postfix, and i now i can't connect w/ eth0 anyone know why?
[20:11] <bulmer> robboplus: you can modify the code and listen to particular ip address
[20:11] <atlfalcons866> will kde4 be in hardy
[20:11] <robboplus> bulmer not this easy i believe
[20:11] <robboplus> bulmer you think it's about changing 0.0.0.0 to a particular ip in source?
[20:11] <kishan> Pici, is it ok if i have a third party repository in my souce list i have medibiuntu when this upgrade occurs
[20:11] <neohaker> !pidgin
[20:11] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[20:11] <PriceChild> !offtopic | atlfalcons866
[20:11] <ubotu> atlfalcons866: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:12] <dwxreaper> pici: i think that "failed to resume" message in dmesg indicates something is corrupting file system information
[20:12] <bulmer> robboplus: yes
[20:12] <neohaker> !compiz-fusion
[20:12] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[20:12] <matic> Hello there. I was chainging some settings in xorg.conf (only the mouse part) and after the reboot of system I'm getting the "no screens found" error. Any ideas where that came from?
[20:12] <dwxreaper> or something like that, so it will happen again
[20:12] <Pici> dwxreaper: Does it say something like 'no resume image found, failed to resume?'
[20:12] <robboplus> bulmer hm... netcode is something that scares me... but if it reallyis THIS easy...
[20:12] <Jimdb> there are plenty of ways to get pidgin installed and working including just adding the proper repository for it.
[20:12] <Pici> kishan: I personally would remove it, but you probably will be okay
[20:13] <bulmer> matic hope you save a copy of the original, then mv it back as the xorg.conf to recover
[20:13] <Jimdb> i'm using pidgin 2.2.1 currently do do this irc chat
[20:13] <matic> bulmer: I wish
[20:13] <dwxreaper> pici: no, i know it doesn't, but it says something like "failed to resume" and before that swupswap ok, or something
[20:13] <dwxreaper> sorry i don't have a dmesg that shows the failure, because last reboot works
[20:13] <Pici> dwxreaper: Are you suspending?
[20:13] <bulmer> matic well, we all learn from it, make a copy of original before modifying
[20:13] <adamkili> anyone had any experience with how long it takes to receive a free cd of ubuntu (in the united states)?
[20:13] <dwxreaper> pici: i checked power manager in gnome, and that isn't set to, i have default fiesty fawn, on a desktop
[20:14] <dwxreaper> well not default, but i didn't install anything like hibernation
[20:14] <erUSUL> dwxreaper: syslog should still have it
[20:14] <FuSioN> MDRRRRRR
[20:14] <matic> Ah yeh...it was supposed to be "safe". But anyhow, no other ideas eh
[20:14] <dwxreaper> ok i'll pull it from syslog
[20:14] <Pici> dwxreaper: I wouldnt worry about it then, I get a similar message, although I havent stopped to look at it lately.
[20:14] <erUSUL> dwxreaper: also /var/log/messages
[20:14] <kitche> adamkili: it states right on the website how long it should take
[20:14] <sinned> hello
[20:14] <erUSUL> !hi > sinned
[20:14] <eddiefullmetal> hello fellow ubuntians...
[20:15] <sinned> i'm back whit the quation how to configure wpa
[20:15] <FuSioN> your are MY biacth at me ?
[20:15] <AndersT> How do you edit the xorg.conf?
[20:15] <FuSioN> i coke your ass
[20:15] <FuSioN> shedup motherfucker
[20:15] <FuSioN> OCEAN3 TENCULE :D
[20:15] <Pici> FuSioN: This isn't appropriate for this channel.
[20:15] <Seeker`> !ops
[20:15] <erUSUL> AndersT: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:15] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[20:15] <asdasfasfa> hi
[20:15] <adamkili> kitche: ya 4-6 weeks but i was wondering if it really takes that long
[20:15] <AndersT> When you enter that?
[20:15] <Se4> anyone: I can't upgrade from edgy yet the updates work and the up-date manager says my system is up to date. anyone knows how to force an update or how i could fix it ?
[20:15] <asdasfasfa> how can ı download debian unstable isos
[20:15] <kitche> adamkili: depends where you live but pretty much yes
[20:16] <sinned> can anyone tell me how to use wpa in ubuntu becouse that is hard to do
[20:16] <erUSUL> AndersT: in a terminal or Alt+F2
[20:16] <sinned> i don't get anything from the manual
[20:16] <Amaranth> Se4: sudo update-manager -c -d
[20:16] <Winball> anderst sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:16] <erUSUL> ubotu tell sinned about wpa | sinned see priv msg from ubotu
[20:16] <Pici> asdasfasfa: ask in #debian, not #ubuntu
[20:16] <kitche> Se4: what do you mean you can't upgrade but hte upgrade works?
[20:16] <SirBob1701> ubuntu keeps trying to remove fbgetty http://pastebin.ca/740181 and wont let me install or remove anything else with apt how do i fix this?
[20:16] <asdasfasfa> ok
[20:16] <Odd-rationale> Se4: are you trying to update to gutsy?
[20:16] <ColonelPanic45> How can I use the stock Ubuntu 7.04 LiveCD to partition the drive on my laptop?  I got a 'device busy' error when I tried to run GParted, which I assume is beacause the LiveCD is mounting the drive (??)
[20:17] <adamkili> kitche: ok thanks
[20:17] <Se4> Odd-rationale: : nop, only to 7.04
[20:17] <dwxreaper> there are tarred dmesg files in /var/log is the data in those, it's not in dmesg, or dmesg.0
[20:17] <florob> ColonelPanic45: gparted should have options to unmount the devices (right click menu on partition IIRC)
[20:17] <ColonelPanic45> florob: ok, will check
[20:18] <Spitty> ColonelPanic45, there's also a gparted live cd that has only gparted on it
[20:18] <dpml> Kworth: progress report?
[20:18] <Spitty> which has worked well for me in the past
[20:18] <AndersT> erUSUL: THe thing is that when i try to install it says "Failed to start the X server.
[20:18] <rajasaurus> does reiserfs work with 64bit installs ?
[20:18] <erUSUL> !alternat > AndersT
[20:19] <erUSUL> !alternate > AndersT
[20:19] <Nubbie> hey guys, just a question about virtualbox and ubuntu... the seamless mode is greyed out, and i was wondering how to enable it.
[20:19] <marf> anybody know why the Add/Remove programs version of VMWare player says 'i386 hardware not supported'? I'm running gutsy
[20:19] <Kworth> dpml: still there?
[20:19] <ColonelPanic45> Spitty: yeah, I know that, but I was trying to avoid burning more plastic... :-)
[20:19] <dpml> Kworth: yep
[20:19] <rajasaurus> anyone have fs recommendations ?
[20:19] <Nubbie> rajasaurus: ext3....
[20:20] <rajasaurus> Nubbie: really? i heard it's not as fast as reiserfs
[20:20] <Kworth> dpml: I think I just need to figure out the dns - look here for network info: http://rafb.net/p/0xBfIt46.html - i already have an ip
[20:20] <h3b> is it possible to start gnome without gdm?
[20:20] <Kworth> dpml: I think I just need to figure out the dns - look here for network info: http://rafb.net/p/0xBfIt46.html - i already have an ip
[20:20] <Kworth> sorry for duble paste
[20:20] <kerbau__> how to connect internet on vmware
[20:20] <dpml> Kworth: you IP provider should be providing you with a couple of DNS addresses
[20:20] <Jimdb> gdm=gnome desktop manager, no!?
[20:20] <Heartsbane> when will the new gutsy be available for download (I am really looking for the time)?
[20:21] <AndersT> erUSUL>	Can we take it private?
[20:21] <Jimdb> kdm=kde desktop manager?
[20:21] <Nubbie> Heartsbane: when it's finished.
[20:21] <Pici> Heartsbane: /topic  - and when its done
[20:21] <Kworth> dpml: yeah I call them, but they just have noobs sitting there in their boothes
[20:21] <dpml> Kworth: so use something else ... such as (hang on)
[20:22] <SirBob1701> i just upgrade to gutsy ubuntu keeps trying to remove fbgetty http://pastebin.ca/740181 and wont let me install or remove anything else with apt how do i fix this?
[20:22] <erUSUL> AndersT: better as in the channel... if the livecd does not bring up X you can use the alternate cd to install
[20:22] <mg_x> Hi. Has ubuntu some console applications to configure network, X11, startup sequence, etc. ?
[20:22] <erUSUL> AndersT: you can try some boot options too
[20:23] <erUSUL> AndersT: but not sure if that may help
[20:23] <erUSUL> !boot | AndersT
[20:23] <ubotu> AndersT: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[20:23] <dpml> Kworth: try 203.2.124.164 and 203.2.124.165
[20:23] <Kworth> dpml: what servers are those?
[20:24] <adaran> if i have a dual core cpu, am i supposed to see 2 cpus in /proc/mdstat?
[20:24] <AndersT> erUSUL>	where do I find the alternate cd?
[20:24] <dpml> Kworth: it does not matter - just use them to get going (ther in Australia but thats academic)
[20:24] <d90> is possable to make my own LiveCD of ubuntu (I would like to copy all installed applications, settings etc to CD/DVD)?
[20:24] <Nubbie> hey guys, just a question about virtualbox and ubuntu... the seamless mode is greyed out, and i was wondering how to enable it.
[20:24] <david003> how do i mount a .cue file?
[20:24] <Pici> adaran: mdstat is harddrives, not cpus
[20:24] <adaran> Pichu0102, /proc/cpuinfo
[20:24] <bulmer> d90 yes, google for remastering ubuntu
[20:24] <Kworth> dpml: okay i will try - hold on a sec
[20:24] <adaran> Pici, /proc/cpuinfo
[20:24] <PriceChild> Nubbie, install the virtualbox tools in the guest os
[20:24] <gryfie__> hiho...... I'm compiling a new kernel......    can someone tell me, if the option in Processor-Family core 2 means a core 2 duo and above , or also a core duo ?
[20:25] <adaran> Pici, wow, two typos in less then a minute
[20:25] <Nubbie> PriceChild: thanks a lot :)
[20:25] <PriceChild> gryfie__, why are you compiling a ne wkernel?
[20:25] <adaran> Pici, sorry about that =)
[20:25] <david003> can someone give me the command to mount file.cue to /mnt/iso
[20:25] <david003> ?
[20:25] <Pici> adaran: I see 2 entries for my dual core.
[20:25] <adaran> Pici, which kernel version?
[20:26] <gonzzor> Is there an FTP client that support TLS in Ubuntu?
[20:26] <erUSUL> AndersT: in the same locations as the desktop one
[20:26] <PriceChild> gonzzor, use sftp
[20:26] <Pici> !iso > david003 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[20:26] <AndersT> ok
[20:26] <erUSUL> gonzzor: filezilla
[20:26] <gonzzor> PriceChild: Can't, since I'm not in charge of the Server..
[20:26] <hyperkilla> hey, ive got 2 hard drives, one with ubuntu fiesty and one with vista on it, ive accidentaly completely filled my ubuntu one, now it wont let me log in, what do i do?
[20:26] <gonzzor> erUSUL: Thanks
[20:26] <erUSUL> gryfie__: Core 2 is not Core Duo
[20:26] <adaran> Pici, i used to see two - now i only see one, but i've upgraded to gutsy
[20:26] <gryfie__> Price: Optimising it :)
[20:26] <jburd> !iso > jburd
[20:27] <Pici> adaran: What kernel are you using?
[20:27] <bulmer> david003: mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.cue /mnt/iso
[20:27] <dpml> Kworth: If this all works I want a nomination for a Nobel Peace Prize
[20:27] <s3phiroth> hi there. can anyone tell me what happened to devil's pie ? i just upgraded to gutsy and it's gone, and it's page seems offline as well
[20:27] <adaran> Pici, 2.6.22-14-386
[20:27] <adaran> Pici, oooohh
[20:27] <adaran> Pici, wait a minute
[20:27] <Pici> adaran: install generic
[20:27] <adaran> Pici, shouldn't that be generic?>
[20:27] <d90> hyperkilla	, use Gnome PArtition Editor so decrese size of Windows and increese size of linux partition
[20:27] <gryfie__> erUSUL: Ok, thx, then I'll use pentium m
[20:27] <Pici> adaran: yes.
[20:27] <Kworth> dpml: I will talk to the commitee if you give me some contact data ... :)
[20:27] <hyperkilla> its not partitions
[20:27] <adaran> Pici, d'oh, i just noticed. i was wondering why they suddenly "switched" to 386.
[20:27] <hyperkilla> its 2 seperate hard drives
[20:27] <adaran> Pici, thanks for the help.
[20:27] <Pici> adaran: Very odd :/
[20:28] <adaran> Pici, well, it may be some legacy stuff
[20:28] <brixendk> any1 know anything about problems with the xserver on a dell inspiron 6400 ?
[20:28] <SirBob1701> how do i remove fbgetty?
[20:28] <adaran> Pici, i think this system has been in existance since hoary and has not been reinstalled (i keep a clean aptitude though)
[20:28] <Pici> s3phiroth: I see devilspie in the gutsy universe repos.
[20:28] <dpml> Kworth: maybe I should hep out a couple of other people first ?
[20:28] <Pici> adaran: Yikes.
[20:28] <adaran> Pici, wait, make that dapper, i thin
[20:28] <morgan> okay hi people!
[20:28] <s3phiroth> Pici: mmm...maybe that got disabled on the upgrade, let me check
[20:29] <morgan> umm..who here is from connecticut????
[20:29] <Pulshion> Hi, does anyone know how to get my sound to work, it stopped working after installing feisty, it works in edgy
[20:29] <hyperkilla> ??
[20:29] <Whitor> How do I share files between two linux computers?
[20:29] <erUSUL> !sound | Pulshion
[20:29] <ubotu> Pulshion: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:29] <MrAustin1337> kst, ubotu, dpml: I have a DQ35JO Motherboard with the 82Q35 Express Video Chipset and I can't get 3d acceleration to the point that when I run glxinfo X crashes.
[20:29] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Whitor about nfs | Whitor see priv msg from ubotu
[20:29] <brixendk> some1 wanna help a new guy on linux?
[20:29] <jaredthane> how do I do the scale and expo plugins in gibbon?
[20:30] <s3phiroth> Pici: looks like that was it. thanks for the tip :)
[20:30] <Whitor> erUSUL: Thank You !
[20:30] <adaran> Pici, well, i've changed mainboard, cpu, ram, 4 harddrives (at some point moving to raid), s-ata controllers, soundcards, optical drives and added a dvb-c card in its lifetime, so it's working fine, considering the circumstances
[20:30] <sainzeo> i have an ati x1950 and have the fglrx driver installed, and i believe it is installed correctly, but I am noticing very choppy video playback as well as very low fps in glxgears - any help??
[20:30] <dpml> MrAustin1337: sorry, not my area
[20:30] <adaran> Pici, i _believe_ i have the wrong virtual package for the kernel, which one should i include?
[20:30] <MrAustin1337> I have a DQ35JO Motherboard with the 82Q35 Express Video Chipset and I can't get 3d acceleration to the point that when I run glxinfo X crashes.  Anyone?
[20:30] <MrAustin1337> dpml: Thanks
[20:30] <erUSUL> adaran: linux-image ?
[20:30] <hyperkilla> ive completely filled my linux hard drive, its not partitioned at all, wont let me log in, how do i fix it?
[20:31] <tdx> hi all
[20:31] <ianm_> should a scrollwheel work with a PS2 mouse?  I already have this line:   Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[20:31] <Matir> hyperkilla, what happens on boot?
[20:31] <Nubbie> PriceChild: do you know of any setting to offset the windows taskbar from the bottom of the screen? it's taking over my gnome panel.
[20:31] <d90> hyperkilla, hmm... no idea... You can try to make 2 partiton on hd with Vista by decreesing size of vista and free space made by deccresing, format to ext3 and use it for images, videos and docs
[20:31] <adaran> erUSUL, i have linux-image-2.6 installed - 2.6-generic is installed even, for some reason, ubuntu chose to boot 386...
[20:31] <bulmer> hyperkilla are you still logged on it?
[20:31] <hyperkilla> it boots and comes up with login screen
[20:31] <hyperkilla> when i try to login it says cannot login as no available space
[20:31] <erUSUL> adaran: uninstall the 386 kernel
[20:32] <rajasaurus> what version of reiser is used in the new ubuntu
[20:32] <adaran> erUSUL, doing that, just wondering how it did get installed in the first place
[20:32] <bulmer> hyperkilla do you have the liveCD? boot from it and then mount the bootable partition and do clean up
[20:32] <Whitor> File shareing between computes is easier in Windows. The Ubuntu community should address this.
[20:32] <jaredthane> hyperkilla: when it boots up press, I think its Esc to go into the GRUB menu, then choose failsafe terminal, you can delete or move files from there.
[20:32] <d90> use windows, install apliation for acessing to ext3 (linux hard drive) and delete something
[20:32] <Whitor> computes = computers
[20:32] <tdx> I managed to make firefox crash (ubuntu 7.10), how do I get a stack trace ? (I belive the crash is from the flash player)
[20:32] <adaran> erUSUL, it's marked as "auto", so some dependency must've pulled it in....
[20:33] <d90> hyperkilla, use windows, install apliation for acessing to ext3 (linux hard drive) and delete something
[20:33] <jaredthane> hyperkilla: Live CD idea is easier
[20:33] <hyperkilla> thanx, all helpful, will try the livecd first
[20:33] <^oops> heelooo!
[20:33] <Nubbie> PriceChild: i'm using compiz-fusion, can i use the put plugin to offset it?
[20:33] <ianm_> Whitor: I agree...
[20:33] <hyperkilla> if that fails will do the menu
[20:33] <kerbau__> how to connect internet on vmware
[20:33] <hyperkilla> hopefully next time i turn up i will be using xchat not mirc :)
[20:33] <Marcel> YEAH 1 day remaind for the ubuntu 7.10
[20:33] <tdx> I managed to make firefox crash (ubuntu 7.10), how do I get a stack trace ? (I belive the crash is from the flash player)
[20:34] <tdx> I managed to make firefox crash (ubuntu 7.10 beta), how do I get a stack trace ? (I belive the crash is from the flash player)
[20:34] <Whitor> I don't want to setup NIS and NFS just to share a directory.
[20:34] <Marcel> yeah
[20:34] <jaredthane> rajasaurus: I've installed it, if you tell me how to check I'll tell you
[20:34] <windowsrefu> geeze
[20:34] <dgr> it said 1 day remainin yeserday :) hink its more like 4 or 5 hours now
[20:34] <erUSUL> ubotu tell tdx about bugs | tdx see priv msg from ubotu
[20:34] <Marcel> LOL
[20:34] <Marcel> and when is releasing the ubuntu
[20:34] <Marcel> what hour?
[20:34] <dpml> Whitor: lauch firefox from the console and look at the errors reported
[20:34] <Whitor> dpml: No me... wrong user
[20:34] <Nubbie> Marcel: read the channel topic.
[20:34] <rajasaurus> jaredthane: dmesg | grep -i reiser
[20:35] <erUSUL> Whitor: use samba
[20:35] <dpml> Whitor: sorry
[20:35] <windowsrefu> vmware, flash, and every other pos non-free stack getting installed on a freedom-granting OS like GNU/Linux
[20:35] <pro__> when i type apt-get install ubuntu-desktop...it installs all the stuff needed to run ubuntu..but what if i want to select what package to install..in ubuntu-desktop..is it possible??
[20:35] <sainzeo> i have an ati x1950 and have the fglrx driver installed, and i believe it is installed correctly, but I am noticing very choppy video playback as well as very low fps in glxgears - any help??
[20:35] <Marcel> THE COMPIZ FUSION ROCKS!!!!!
[20:35] <Whitor> erUSUL: not a bad idea
[20:35] <Fesek> umm. i have a Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7500 Processor, i installed fiesty 7.04 32 bit..should i have chosen 64 bit? is there anyway to use both cores in 32 bit?
[20:35] <windowsrefu> it's a shame I tell ya
[20:35] <jaredthane> rajasaurus: No response, I think it might be ext or something like that
[20:35] <Matir> Fesek, both cores would be used in 32 bit
[20:35] <Marcel> SEARCH MAYBE THE UBUNTU DONT SUPPORT THA VIDEO CARD
[20:36] <dpml> tdx: launch firefiox from the console and check for errors at the console level
[20:36] <oDiN88> hello .. can some1 help me ? got problem with audio in ubuntu
[20:36] <erUSUL> !caps | Marcel
[20:36] <ubotu> Marcel: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:36] <eddiefullmetal> dudes when is the official release of 7.10
[20:36] <erUSUL> eddiefullmetal: tomorrow
[20:36] <Matir> sainzeo, what does glxinfo | grep direct show?
[20:36] <Marcel> OK
[20:36] <Matir> eddiefullmetal, tomorrow
[20:36] <eddiefullmetal> ououououaaaouououaououoa
[20:36] <tritium> !topic | eddiefullmetal
[20:36] <ubotu> eddiefullmetal: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[20:36] <Whitor> oDiN88: Ask your question
[20:36] <eddiefullmetal> hoooray thanks
[20:36] <jaredthane> rajasaurus: yep EXT3-fs:
[20:36] <Fesek> Matir : Thanks! I was wondering.. i installed irqbalance as it said to do so in the forums. is that a good thing to do?
[20:36] <Steve-T> just installed a non-repo version of libc6 & im getting cannot set locale to error when running vlc ! help
[20:36] <oDiN88> erm .. my lappy is v3010 compaq presario
[20:36] <Marcel> who have cedega?
[20:36] <meeper> wow, ubuntu has samba already installed. nice
[20:37] <Matir> Fesek, from my understanding, it is
[20:37] <oDiN88> and got no sound .. wifi is working great
[20:37] <aclar1> can someone help with with xmms, i get an error when i try to ./configure
[20:37] <jburd> What error?
[20:37] <Marcel> reinstall the xmms
[20:37] <meeper> just don't see why ubuntu has to use gnome. how hard is it to switch to kde? should i wipe and reinstall kubuntu?
[20:37] <Fesek> matir : thank you! i dont have to worry anymore now!
[20:37] <erUSUL> Steve-T: and why o why did you installed a 3 party version of such a sensitive (core) package? :S
[20:37] <oDiN88> try to understand this but gut no luck
[20:37] <oDiN88> http://simonsspace.blogspot.com/2007/07/ubuntu-feisty-fawn-on-my-compaq-v3000.html
[20:37] <Dr_willis> meeper,  its trivial to install kde.
[20:37] <aclar1> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executableschecking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[20:37] <aclar1> See `config.log' for more details.
[20:37] <aclar1> See `config.log' for more details.
[20:37] <Marcel> and erase the folder of the xmms in the home folder
[20:37] <Matir> Fesek, you can always see the detected cores in the file /proc/cpuinfo as well.
[20:37] <Whitor> oDiN88: write it all at once so we don't have to piece it all together... chances are that the beginning of oyur question will have scrolled off the sceeen before you get to the last part of your question
[20:37] <openforlife> join #ubuntu-release-party
[20:37] <openforlife> oops
[20:37] <jburd> aclar1: You need to install a C compiler.
[20:37] <erUSUL> aclar1: install build-essential
[20:37] <dpml> Kworth: whats the status?
[20:38] <Matir> aclar1, why are you installing from source?
[20:38] <Dr_willis> meeper,    the idea of 'reinstalling to switch' is windows thinking. :) install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package
[20:38] <erUSUL> ubotu tell aclar1 about paste | aclar1 see priv msg from ubotu
[20:38] <Kworth> dpml: i have the dns
[20:38] <aclar1> i just went to the site and that was the only DL i saw
[20:38] <Steve-T> I was trying to get ic2iso working.. doh!
[20:38] <Dr_willis> meeper,  check out #kubuntu for Ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome.
[20:38] <Marcel> my samba smb dont work i need help
[20:38] <meeper> Dr_willis: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ? will that set everything else up like samba and the login window?
[20:38] <dpml> Kworth: and everyting works now?
[20:39] <Dr_willis> meeper,  samba is a different thing. and it will ask what to use for the login window.. kdm or gdm. select kdm if you want a kde system.
[20:39] <Whitor> spamvertizing ?
[20:39] <Dr_willis> meeper,  and at the login window select the kde session.
[20:39] <Dr_willis> !kubuntu
[20:39] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[20:39] <aclar1> jburd: sorry a bit new to linux, is there an apt-get for the C compiler?
[20:39] <Whitor> woops, wrong channel!
[20:39] <meeper> Dr_willis: thanks. I'll give it a shot.
[20:39] <Marcel> when i search for comparted folders give me a error (you dont have perrmision to see these folders)?
[20:39] <Marcel> in the samba
[20:39] <bigbastik> who can help me?
[20:39] <Marcel> i need help
[20:39] <legion> Hey, ive got a radeon r250 (9000 series) onboard video card on my laptop, when i run glxgears i get graphical glitches all over the screen. Im using the default driver that came with ubuntu because the open source radeon driver doesnt support the 9000, can this be fixed or am i screwed?
[20:39] <quittt> tomorrow Ubuntu 7.10 =]
[20:39] <jburd> aclar1: You already got the answer.  sudo apt-get install built-essential
[20:39] <aclar1> ahh ok
[20:39] <Dr_willis> Marcel,  comparted folders ?
[20:39] <Marcel> yeah
[20:39] <aclar1> ill try that, must have missed that msg
[20:39] <Whitor> bigbastik: No one knows who can help you until you ask a question
[20:40] <Kworth> dpml: i try it now
[20:40] <dectus> yeee
[20:40] <Marcel> well sorry with my eanglish is bad i im dominican republic
[20:40] <bigbastik> Whitor, :D can i call you in pvt?
[20:40] <Dr_willis> No clue what you are refering to.. :) mnever heard that term befor in the years of my samba ussage. :)
[20:40] <jburd> Just in case you don't get the development standard C header files, also install libc6-dev
[20:40] <oDiN88> ..
[20:40] <dpml> Kworth: god, because the sun is comming up over here
[20:40] <Whitor> bigbastik: Chances are I can't help you... I'm just familiar with how IRC works ...
[20:40] <dpml> s/god/good
[20:41] <Marcel> well i need help with the samba gave me a tutorial o install samba correctly
[20:41] <DevideZero> when 10.7 will be released ?
[20:41] <legion> anyone good with radeon drivers?
[20:41] <Marcel> 2009
[20:41] <dpml> DevideZero: tommorow
[20:41] <megabytes> d
[20:41] <Fesek> matir. can you check that pm i sent you. coz i dont know if the output is a bad thing.
[20:41] <jburd> It already shows 0 days to go here.  There's an off-by-one bug on the Website.
[20:42] <vvd> but when exactly is tomorrow (timezone)?
[20:42] <dpml> vvd: +24 hours
[20:42] <DevideZero> not today in midnight ?
[20:42] <riotkittie> tommorow is when tomorrow is.
[20:42] <dgr> tomorow never comes
[20:42] <vvd> :p#
[20:42] <Jake_001> tomorrow never knows
[20:42] <dectus> eheh
[20:42] <vvd> `tomowrrow is in 2 hours here
[20:42] <Crozar> guys i used to have a BIGGGG FIREFOX ICON what happened to that ? and how  can i get that BIG ICON BACK!!
[20:42] <dpml> vvd: or whatever
[20:43] <jburd> I'm already in tomorrow here.
[20:43] <legion> no one knows about radeon drivers?
[20:43] <Marcel> LOL
[20:43] <dpml> jburd: me too
[20:43] <Jake_001> tomorrow is 12:01 UTC
[20:43] <Jake_001> lol
[20:43] <blubb> Is it not a good idea to do the upgrade to new gutsy now?
[20:43] <dgr> the day after tomorow is the first day of the rest of your life.... i like that saying, like that you always have a couple of days in hand
[20:43] <Jake_001> 1200
[20:43] <legion> c'mon this shouldnt be hard, i checked the xorg.conf file, it looks fine to me, and compiz runs good... but i get huge graphical glitching in games
[20:44] <dpml> someone should change the topic to "The day after tomorow"
[20:44] <Dr_willis> Marcel,  The 'samba-doc' package has several books  In html format. for learnign the ins and outs of samba ussage. :) dont forget to give your users samba passwords with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' also.
[20:44] <tritium> dpml: no, it's correct
[20:44] <aclar1> sorry for the array of questions, but how do i get glib, googled and it said sudo apt-get install glib, but it doesnt find a package
[20:44] <dectus> anyone on a Thinkpad R61 here ?
[20:44] <dpml> tritium: what's correct>
[20:44] <tritium> dpml: the topic
[20:45] <administrator> anyone would know why a driver that is installed is saying its an invalid driver?
[20:45] <administrator> http://pastebin.com/m4640b4fe
[20:45] <atlfalcons866> is gusty gibbon lts
[20:45] <arno-t> hi is there a channel for gthumb?
[20:45] <jburd> aclar1: aptitude search glib
[20:45] <dpml> tritium: the topic is way to long - its like listerning to a speach - everyone here wants to know a deadline
[20:45] <Dr_willis> administrator,  you might want to clarify your question a bit more. So people that know/use ndiswrappers might notice and help.
[20:46] <bigbastik> who can help me?
[20:46] <faux> aclar1: glib is a part of a default ubuntu install, what are you trying to do?
[20:46] <jburd> You want sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev (and other gtk+ libs in case you're building a GTK+ application).
[20:46] <Kworth22> dpml: hi, It doesnt work i think i really need a tcp/ip with the ppp
[20:46] <atlfalcons866> !gnp,e
[20:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnp,e - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:46] <atlfalcons866> !gnome
[20:46] <jburd> faux: ./configure needs xxx-dev
[20:46] <Kworth22> Does anyone know how to install a tcp/ip for a ppp connection?
[20:46] <bigbastik> -_-
[20:46] <atlfalcons866> !hardy
[20:46] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[20:46] <jburd> install a tcp/ip?
[20:46] <dpml> Kworth22: ok - so way have a properly configure network connection? Yes/No?
[20:47]  * dectus is downloading the new ubuntu
[20:47] <hyperkilla> hey, im back
[20:47] <dgr> what is that i keep seeing, sudo.. if i type it in to the terminal i get some options, what does it do?
[20:47] <quittt> hello
[20:47] <erUSUL> Kworth22: that comes with the kernel (you maybe need pppd but it should be installed)
[20:47] <Kworth22> dpml: yes - we have I have an Ip
[20:47] <tritium> dectus: it's not available yet
[20:47] <dpml> Kworth22: if you have an IP channel established then everything should be golden
[20:47] <Kworth22> erUSUL, I have already the connection over ppp but i cant use it with my browser?
[20:47] <quittt> I'm having problems with my Console(without X)... when I type an word that comes with an accent like "é", it shows me bizarre things like bars, comas, etc... but "é"
[20:47] <dpml> Kworth22: I'm looking at thing here
[20:47] <dectus> eheh was just joking
[20:47] <aclar1> glibc-2.5.0-0exp2  is that what i want?
[20:48] <quittt> what do you think may be causing this?
[20:48] <erUSUL> Kworth22: maybe a dns problem?
[20:48] <jburd> aclar1: glib is not the same as glibc
[20:48] <squizzle> zomg the wait is almost ovah :D
[20:48] <quittt> my mother language is Portuguese in its Brazilian variety
[20:48] <sarthor> its not Dell Room, but i am unable to log to Dell or any related room, can any 1 tell me here. is Dell D600 Latitude 1.4 ghz centrino support DDR2 Ram??
[20:48] <Kworth22> erUSUL, okay so what to do?
[20:48] <erUSUL> !pt | quittt
[20:48] <ubotu> quittt: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[20:48] <dpml> Kworth22: is the modem connection enabled?
[20:48] <legion> is there somewhere i can go to get answers on advanced questions. It seems no one here can solve or even acknowledge my radeon issues
[20:48] <Kworth22> dpml: it is disabled right now, but i can enable it in 10 seconds? why?
[20:48] <tritium> !patience | legion
[20:48] <ubotu> legion: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:48] <aclar1> The GLib library of C routines
[20:48] <aclar1> ?
[20:48] <Kworth22> dpml: in the network settings?
[20:48] <quittt> erUSUL, I was not asking help in portuguese
[20:49] <Delphinus> legion: have you tried the forums?
[20:49] <erUSUL> Kworth22: first check if that's the actual issue... ping 64.233.183.99  (google)
[20:49] <dpml> Kworth22: yes - make sure that it is enabled in the network setting
[20:49] <quittt> erUSUL, please read my writing at first
[20:49] <DevideZero> what is better vim or emacas ?
[20:49] <legion> i've searched the forums extensively, no result
[20:49] <tritium> DevideZero: personal preference
[20:49] <riotkittie> DevideZero: there is no better.
[20:49] <aclar1> hmm when i try to install it says i have the newest version
[20:49] <Delphinus> legion: tried posting a thread in the forums?
[20:50] <erUSUL> quittt: in the pt channel there is more likely that somebody has had the same problem as you (they use your same locale)
[20:50] <Kworth22> dpml: okay it is now - but I needed to enter userdata again - so i did
[20:50] <jburd> aclar1: Try this:   sudo apt-get build-dep xmms        Once that is done, try ./configure again.
[20:50] <legion> Delphinus, thought i'd try irc first
[20:50] <erUSUL> quittt: i did read your question
[20:50] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i can enable the restriceted driver for my graphics card in kde?
[20:50] <aclar1> ok thanks j
[20:50] <quittt> erUSUL, I already asked there...
[20:50] <tritium> aclar1:  you're building xmms from source?  Why?
[20:50] <dpml> Kworth22: yep - this is where you configure the transport layer
[20:50] <quittt> erUSUL, it was a weird problem because everything is fine on X
[20:50] <Kworth22> dpml... what to do now?
[20:50] <aclar1> thats what was on the site for download
[20:51] <quittt> but on console, it is strange...
[20:51] <jburd> aclar1: You could install xmms by simply doing sudo apt-get install xmms :-)
[20:51] <dpml> Kworth22: like I know!
[20:51] <aclar1> doh!
[20:51] <Kworth22> dpml: LOL :)
[20:51] <Jeriath> anyone knwo how to setup dhcp on firestarter
[20:51] <Jeriath> i can get it to give windows an ip
[20:51] <aclar1> well now i know...like i said, new to linux
[20:51] <hyperkilla> ok, im using my live cd, how do i delete stuff from my linux drive?
[20:51] <MrAustin1337> I have a DQ35JO Motherboard with the 82Q35 Express Video Chipset and I can't get 3d acceleration to the point that when I run glxinfo X crashes.  Anyone?
[20:51] <Jeriath> but windows cant access the internet
[20:51] <tritium> aclar1: it's in the ubuntu repositories
[20:51] <Tarkus> ubuntu ubuntu, mister ubuntu pooch in a bag of oats!!!
[20:51] <dpml> Kworth22: OK - from here we know you have a PPP connection and an IP and a DNS - correct?
[20:52] <Jeriath> ive followed several different setup directions and nothing works
[20:52] <Kworth22> dpml: yes right
[20:52] <jburd> However, installing from source is a learning experience.  You may want to try it out sometime.  :-)  (don't forget to use checkinstall)
[20:52] <andax> Jeriath, sudo apt-get install dhcp and it should do the job.
[20:52] <hyperkilla> id better phrase that better
[20:52] <Kworth22> erUSUL: it return operation not permitted
[20:52] <aclar1> is there somewhere where i can see what kind of apps are in the repositories?
[20:52] <dpml> Kworth22: so what happens when your lauch a browser?
[20:52] <aclar1> or do you just kinda of have to check first?
[20:52] <Jeriath> i installed dhcp3
[20:52] <djm62> aclar1: System->Administration->Synaptic
[20:52] <tritium> aclar1: synaptic package manager, for one.  package.ubuntu.com for another
[20:52] <Jeriath> if i install dhcp it uninstalls dhcp3 and i have more problems
[20:52] <Kworth22> dpml: it takes forever and it does nothing if the lan connection is disabled
[20:52] <erUSUL> Kworth22: maybe a firewall issue?? are you running one
[20:52] <erUSUL> ?
[20:53] <Kworth22> erUSUL: no, just iptables maybe
[20:53] <Jeriath> but the dhcp works fine
[20:53] <hyperkilla> ok, im running off my live cd, when i try and delet stuff from the drive my ubuntu install is on i dont have permission, what do i do?
[20:53] <djm62> aclar1: and you can search it from synaptic, and install what you find by ticking the box
[20:53] <Jeriath> i just cant access teh internet from my windows machine
[20:53] <erUSUL> Kworth22: iptables is *the* firewall in linux
[20:53] <aclar1> ahh thanks ill check that out when im done with this apt-get
[20:53] <Kworth22> erUSUL: ping 64.233.183.99 -I ppp0 <--- thats okay?
[20:53] <aclar1> and i think ill try this one out with biniaries
[20:53] <Jeriath> is it mabey blocking the traffic for some reason?
[20:53] <tritium> aclar1: also, apt-cache search <foo> is handy when searching for specific strings
[20:54] <erUSUL> Kworth22: you shouldn't need to use the  -I
[20:54] <hyperkilla> fck it, i will just format the drive and reinstall
[20:54] <dpml> Kworth22: go to you 'System/Administration/Network Tools'
[20:54] <aclar1> ill write that down =]
[20:54] <hyperkilla> :/
[20:54] <tritium> aclar1: I'd recommend that you instead install the xmms ubuntu package
[20:54] <halfprice5> #ubuntu
[20:54] <andax> Jeriath, maybe you just forgot to set the default gateway on the win box?
[20:54] <Kworth22> erUSUL: yes I need to because otherwise it uses the LAN connection to the internet which works just fine
[20:54] <jubilation43> Hey, I'm trying to compile source and it came up w/ this error on ./compile "Configure: Error: C compiler cannot create executable
[20:54] <aclar1> sudo apt-get install xmms?
[20:54] <dromer> hey all, I'm having trouble getting a 2nd hd to work on my pIII 800mhz, I have Kubuntu Feisty installed on the primary hd (set as master), which alon boots normally, the new hd is an the same IDE set as slave, but when it's hooked on the boot-process get's interupted and I get BusyBox  /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off   (initramfs)_   also, tty1 shows some output which ends with 'Target Filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init/'
[20:54] <aclar1> is what you said?
[20:54] <dpml> Kworth22: try and ping something via an IP address first
[20:54] <jburd> jubilation43: sudo apt-get install build-essential libc6-dev
[20:55] <tritium> aclar1: yes, if you have the right repositories enabled
[20:55] <tritium> !info xmms | aclar1
[20:55] <ubotu> aclar1: xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20061201-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 794 kB, installed size 6304 kB
[20:55] <tritium> aclar1: it's in main, so you're good to go
[20:55] <Tarkus> btw, whats the correct way to pronounce ubuntu? i always say "you-bun-too".. i've heard someone say "uh-boon-too"... what gives?
[20:55] <halfprice5> need some help setting up a dlink print server with 7.10
[20:55] <aclar1> ok ill go check some of this new found info out, and be back if i need some more help
[20:55] <aclar1> thanks a ton
[20:55] <riotkittie> i'd use audacious over xmms, fwiw
[20:55] <tritium> !pronounce | Tarkus
[20:56] <ubotu> Tarkus: pronounce is point your movie player at /usr/share/example-content/Experience ubuntu.ogg
[20:56] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i can enable the restriceted driver for my graphics card in kde?
[20:56] <Kworth22> dpml: i get -  ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[20:56] <erUSUL> dromer: are you sure the jumpers and everything is ok (it seems that the new drive takes the master role)
[20:56] <Seveas> !pronounce =~ s/^/<reply> To learn how to pronounce Ubuntu,
[20:57] <dpml> Kworth22: ummm, this is getting out ogf my depth - do you have access to root?
[20:57] <erUSUL> Kworth22: if you have to different inet connections is maybe a routing problem?
[20:57] <BrodicK> hi guys...can anyone tell me how i upgrade 2.6.22-12-generic to 2.6.22-14-generic
[20:57] <jubilation43> jburd, thx so much!
[20:57] <Kworth22> dpml: markus@markus-laptop:~$ ping 64.233.183.99 -I 172.23.207.229
[20:57] <Kworth22> PING 64.233.183.99 (64.233.183.99) from 172.23.207.229 : 56(84) bytes of data.
[20:57] <dromer> erUSUL: yes, the new drive's jumpers are set as slave, when master the machine doesn't boot, I've also tried cable select and then the bios doesn't see it
[20:57] <Kworth22> dpml: I can use sudo...
[20:57] <erUSUL> BrodicK: are you on gutsy?
[20:57] <Tarkus> tritium, seriously?? im not on ubuntu right now.. i just want to know how to pronounce "ubuntu"..
[20:58] <Kworth22> erUSUL: yeah but the dns is set up correctly
[20:58] <BrodicK> erUSUL, yes i use gutys
[20:58] <dpml> Kworth22: that will work
[20:58] <BrodicK> erUSUL, yes i use gutsy
[20:58] <ltl> MoNsTeR - click system > administration > restricted drivers manager.
[20:58] <erUSUL> BrodicK: uninstall the old feisty kernel
[20:58] <tritium> Tarkus: _not_ the "you" form you mentioned
[20:58] <Kworth22> dpml: can you try to connect to: http://172.23.207.229/
[20:58] <BrodicK> erUSUL, can you tell me how i do that?
[20:58] <erUSUL> Kworth22: but what is the default route? through ppp or lan?
[20:59] <erUSUL> BrodicK: use synaptic
[20:59] <Kworth22> erUSUL: how do I find out?
[20:59] <Kworth22> erUSUL: default should be LAN
[20:59] <Kworth22> erUSUL: if I disconnect LAN it does not work anymore
[20:59] <dpml> Kworth22: its not responding from here
[20:59] <erUSUL> Kworth22: sudo route -n
[20:59] <beli> hey, what application to use to watch notebook battery power?
[20:59] <BrodicK> erUSUL, pardon me but im not yet very familiar with these...
[20:59] <jubilation43> Now it's saying this: checking for headers required to compile python extensions... not found
[20:59] <jubilation43> configure: error: could not find Python headers
[20:59] <stray77> Ubuntu, an African word from Zulu and Xhosa, is pronounced "oo-BOON-too".
[21:00] <jubilation43> What's a python header? Are there different ones?
[21:00] <erUSUL> BrodicK: System>Administration>Synaptic use search to find the package (linux-image-<version>) and remove it
[21:00] <PreZGN> hrm, I'm having problems establishing a VPN connection
[21:00] <Tarkus> tritium, im sorry... i have no idea what you are trying to say.. i guess you dont know how its pronounced..
[21:00] <tritium> Tarkus: see http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq for that answer
[21:00] <Kworth22> dpml: take a look at private message...
[21:00] <jburd> jubilation43: apt-get install python-dev
[21:00] <erUSUL> ubotu tell BrodicK about synaptic | BrodicK see priv msg from ubotu
[21:00] <tritium> Tarkus: you guessed wrong
[21:01] <adaptr> can anybody point me to a document that describes how Ubuntu fabricates the ~/volatile drivers from the restricted-modules libraries ?
[21:01] <Kworth22> erUSUL: 10.64.64.64     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[21:01] <PreZGN> Specifically, I'm online via. a 'dial-up' connection (actually a BroadbandAccess connection), which is ppp.  I am online and fine, and I want to establish a VPN connection (I configured it), but it won't let me select it because I'm not connected using eth0/eth1
[21:01] <BrodicK> erUSUL, thanks a lot
[21:01] <erUSUL> BrodicK: no problem
[21:01] <beli> noone here watching the power level of the notebook battery?
[21:01] <halfprice5> could someone help me setup a dlink print server on gusty
[21:01] <PreZGN> is there another way to start a VPN connection (configured using the NetworkManager)?
[21:02] <jburd> Doesn't your installation of Ubuntu tell you the level of your notebook battery in the tray?
[21:02] <erUSUL> Kworth22: so default route is ppp0 but the browser does not get to internet through it?
[21:02] <beli> jburd: nope, i am using xubuntu btw.
[21:02] <Kworth22> erUSUL: look here: http://rafb.net/p/lWBKta21.html
[21:02] <jburd> beli: Gnome has gnome-power-manager
[21:02] <riotkittie> beli: gnome-power-manager, i believe.  also, if you click on panel > add to panel > you can add a battery status monitor.
[21:02] <beli> ok thanks
[21:02] <louis> Hey robot please give me some info about automatix
[21:03] <jburd> louis: It's crap.
[21:03] <riotkittie> oh. xubuntu. oops. hmm. no clue, then.
[21:03] <beli> riotkittie: you are right, thanks
[21:03] <archangelpetro> can anyone here explain to me the reasons behind the development of 'satanic ubuntu'?
[21:03] <tritium> Tarkus: get it straight yet?
[21:03] <BrodicK> erUSUL, i currently see linux-image-2.6.22.12-generic..is this what i need to remove?
[21:03] <riotkittie> beli: cool. glad it works. :)
[21:03] <Kworth22> erUSUL: there is written 0.0.0.0 at router see pastebin is this alright?
[21:03] <jburd> archangelpetro: Some people have no real work.
[21:03] <awalton__> archangelpetro: someone developed "christian ubuntu", what better reason did they need?
[21:03] <erUSUL> BrodicK: nope
[21:03] <archangelpetro> well
[21:03] <archangelpetro> and islam ubuntu
[21:03] <riotkittie> archangelpetro:  it was goofiness in response to christian edition
[21:04] <dromer> erUSUL: any other ideas?
[21:04] <archangelpetro> ah
[21:04] <erUSUL> BrodicK: i missunderstood your question sorry :(
[21:04] <PreZGN> I'm guessing nobody uses the NetworkManager VPN when connected over another ppp connection ;)
[21:04] <erUSUL> dromer: i'm afraid not
[21:04] <Pulshion> Does anybody know how to get Desktop Effects/Compiz to work on Feisty with ATI
[21:04] <BrodicK> no problem..this was my question...can anyone tell me how i upgrade 2.6.22-12-generic to 2.6.22-14-generic
[21:04] <erUSUL> BrodicK: use synaptic to install the newer kernel or better yet install linux-image-generic
[21:05] <MrAustin1337> Hey all.  I have a DQ35JO Motherboard with the 82Q35 Express Video Chipset and I can't get 3d acceleration to the point that when I run glxinfo X crashes.
[21:05] <BrodicK> erUSUL, linux-image-generic is installed
[21:05] <MrAustin1337> Hey all.  I have a DQ35JO Motherboard with the 82Q35 Express Video Chipset and I can't get 3d acceleration to the point that when I run glxinfo X crashes.  Any ideas?
[21:05] <barkink> how can i find out what uses my 2208 port?
[21:05] <BrodicK> im trying to install virtualbox..but i wont install with the current kernel version
[21:05] <L0cKn> 'Hello
[21:05] <adaptr> barkink netstat -plant | grep 2208 ?
[21:05] <administrator> can someone please help me i tried to install the drivers for my netgear wireless wifi card WG311
[21:05] <ColonelPanic45> archangelpetro: someone should make a pastafarian edition of ubuntu.  I would totally have my startup screen be the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
[21:05] <erUSUL> BrodicK: it should install the latest kernel (2.6.22-14-generic if i understandyou )
[21:05] <administrator> i used this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[21:05] <bulmer> adaptr: netstat -n
[21:05] <dromer> erUSUL: gah, maybe I need to move my system to the new disk ..
[21:06]  * tritium waits for Tarkus' reply...
[21:06] <Pulshion> Does anybody know how to get Desktop Effects/Compiz to work on Feisty with ATI????/
[21:06] <adaptr> bulmer erm.. no
[21:06] <administrator> but i keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/m99f77b
[21:06] <archangelpetro> ColonelPanic45, perhaps... :) maybe we'll get a 'scientology' edition
[21:06] <administrator> how can i get the card to work?
[21:06] <tritium> archangelpetro: you're straying offtopic
[21:06] <BrodicK> erUSUL, thats my problema actually...because im still using the 2.6.22.12 version
[21:06] <archangelpetro> tritium, i believe i'm talking about ubuntu?
[21:06] <aclar1> ok got in installed from apt-get, added my playlist, but it just runs through them like i dont have mp3 codec, but i used easyubuntu to install all the codecs
[21:06] <karlstad> having some trouble with my msn client(s) that people see me and my status as 'Offline' when my status clearly is 'Online'
[21:07] <barkink> adaptr, this is why i asked this question cuz when i do netstat -luntp, i see an open port listening on 2208
[21:07] <tritium> archangelpetro: you're actually speculating about fictitious religious variants of ubuntu
[21:07] <erUSUL> Kworth22: the default getaway is not the ppp0 connection (i missread) is this 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[21:07] <barkink> adaptr, i wanna know what application makes this port open...
[21:07] <adaptr> barkink run what I showed you, AS ROOT
[21:07] <erUSUL> Kworth22: to make sure use 'sudo ip route'
[21:07] <aclar1> any way to check what codecs i have?
[21:07] <Lich> nabend
[21:07] <archangelpetro> so, if i was talking about possible developments of ubuntu.. i'd still be talking about fictitious things.. but that'd be more appropriate tritium ?
[21:08] <Kworth22> erUSUL: result of 'sudo ip route' : http://rafb.net/p/1GmNbi71.html
[21:08] <Lich> ich hab mal ne kleine frage, kann mir vielleicht jemand sagen wie ich bei emerald die schriftart ändere?
[21:08] <adaptr> archangelpetro you're free to develop your own, of course - but you probably can't call it *buntu
[21:08] <tritium> archangelpetro: please, just stay on topic.  This channel is for ubuntu support
[21:08] <Kworth22> erUSUL: how do I fix it though?
[21:08] <adaptr> !de | lich
[21:08] <ubotu> lich: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:08] <Lich> oh sorry
[21:08] <archangelpetro> tritium, as you wish :D
[21:08] <Lich> my fault
[21:09] <aclar1> tritium: how can i check what codecs i have installed cause xmms doesnt play my mp3s
[21:09] <erUSUL> Kworth22: if you have inet connection why you use the ppp connection too? iirc if you bring up the ppp connection with the lan connection down it will configure it self as the default gateway
[21:10] <tck> where do i find the gutsy features page on wiki
[21:10] <tck> cannot find it to save my life
[21:10] <daaku> anyone know if the gutsy server kernel uses PAE, like the feisty server kernel does? (using on parallels on mac which doesnt support PAE yet)
[21:10] <Dr_willis> aclar1,  does other players play them? try out the 'beep media player' yet?
[21:10] <Jimdb> libxine-ffmpeg?
[21:10] <ColonelPanic45> aclar1: looks like there's an xxms-mp3 package?
[21:10] <Kworth22> erUSUL: if i drop the network connection it does not work over ppp.... at home i have LAN internet but i want to use the ppp when i'm outside of my house
[21:10] <jubilation43> Someone know how to get pygtk-2.0? I need it to compile
[21:10] <mcscruff> lo a
[21:10] <mcscruff> *all
[21:10] <tritium> aclar1: see others' answers ;)
[21:10] <aclar1> is beep media player the default one?
[21:10] <mcscruff> when i boot i cant see anything onscreen after grub and before the logon screen
[21:10] <Dr_willis> aclar1,  proberly not. :)
[21:10] <Pulshion> Does anybody know how to get Desktop Effects/Compiz to work on Feisty with ATI????
[21:11] <Kworth22> erUSUL: i just dont drop the LAN connection right now, because I wont be able to chat since the other connection doesnt work proper
[21:11] <aclar1> i have rythembox
[21:11] <erUSUL> Kworth22: if you ifdown eth0 and ppp0 and then bring up ppp0 it does not work?
[21:11] <aclar1> that plays thenm
[21:11] <Dr_willis> aclar1,  try some other players. Thers also the !mp3 factoid tht tells what you need to isntall for mp3 playbacl
[21:11] <frijolie> hey all
[21:11] <aclar1> !mp3
[21:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:11] <Dr_willis> aclar1,  xmms is getting a bit out of date.
[21:11] <CaBlGuY> !gutsy
[21:11] <Winball> !wmv
[21:11] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[21:11] <riotkittie> the gstreamer plugins [bad, ugly]
[21:11] <frijolie> i'm trying to format an external USB HDD and having trouble
[21:11] <Kworth22> erUSUL: i just tried to disconnect the lan cable... I will try .. will be back in a minute
[21:12] <aclar1> what woudl you suggest Dr_willis?  someone recommended xmms cause it was similar to winamp
[21:12] <Jimdb> xmms-mad is mp3 plugin for xmms
[21:12] <frijolie> if i want to share it between Gutsy and a Windows box what's the best filesystem? NTFS, ext3?
[21:12] <riotkittie> aclar1: audacious.
[21:12] <stray77> aclar1, ive always used automatix to download codecs
[21:12] <jubilation43> Can someone help me understand, how can I get pygtk-2.0? I cannot find in apt-get, or synaptic
[21:12] <andres_> ola
[21:12] <andres_> hi
[21:12] <andres_> ai alguien
[21:12] <beli> and what tool can i use to throttle my cpu speed? like cpu power saving
[21:12] <riotkittie> aclar1:  if you like xmms, audacious is the way to go
[21:13] <LjL> !automatix | stray77
[21:13] <ubotu> stray77: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[21:13] <meeper> when you first share a folder (samba) through the Shared Folders admin panel what is the login/pass it expects?
[21:13] <aclar1> ok ill check that out
[21:13] <Pulshion> Does anybody know how to get Desktop Effects/Compiz to work on Feisty with ATI????
[21:13] <Jimdb> i can't seem to agree that anything is better than amarok for playing mp3s
[21:13] <LjL> !automatix | aclar1
[21:13] <ubotu> aclar1: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[21:13] <aclar1> let me check the packages for that....
[21:13] <halfprice5> could someone help me with a problem with gusty?
[21:13] <Bax> anybody know how I can get to the gaming chat room for ubuntu?
[21:13] <ColonelPanic45> beli: are you looking for power savings or just cpu speed?
[21:14] <ColonelPanic45> beli: because you could look at powertop
[21:14] <frijolie> what's the best filesystem to share between windows and linux? nTFS or ext3?
[21:14] <Dr_willis> Bax,  whats it called? /join #channelname  :) if ya know its name
[21:14] <beli> ColonelPanic45: i will try that, thanks
[21:14] <tck> will they be making a proper gobuntu.org site instead of pointing to ubuntu.org ?
[21:14] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: FAT32 is, AFAIK, the only 'universal' filesystem right now
[21:14] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  linux  can read/wite ntfs wth the ntfs-3g stuff/ windows can read/write ext3 with some ifs-drivers.org stuff. :)
[21:14] <spot_> Hi! Can someone help me? Im searching for at program for people that have problems reading for Ubunutu, is that available?
[21:14] <kjp> is there a way to clone an ubuntu installation to a newer, larger hard drive?
[21:14] <neofax> Can anyone help me with SPDIF out on a ICE1724 card?
[21:14] <Bax> I don't know Dr_willis, i just need a room that's talking about ubuntu and gaming
[21:14] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  it depends on your needs.
[21:14] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: most modern linux distros can read/write ntfs..
[21:14] <hasan> interneten istediklerimi basamiyorum ama nedenini cözemiyorum
[21:14] <beli> ColonelPanic45: is there a software for that in the repository?
[21:14] <Savas_THY> will gutsy be released tonight?
[21:15] <frijolie> so it really doesn't matter
[21:15] <Dr_willis> Bax,  i know of no such room.  check the !games factoids?
[21:15] <Dr_willis> !games
[21:15] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[21:15] <frijolie> I plan on using it on an external USB HDD to move between computers
[21:15] <frijolie> mostly used to back up music, pictures, and documents...
[21:15] <frijolie> some contents from the /home directory
[21:15] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: I format all of my external drives as FAT32 so I can access them under win, mac, linux
[21:15] <Bax> but no chatrooms regarding games?
[21:15] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  use vfat then
[21:15] <Odd-rationale> frijlie: If you use fat32, you have a file limit of 4 GB. Beware.
[21:15] <Kworth22> erUSUL, no it does not work
[21:16] <SirBob1701> can i remove compiz fusion will gutsy still work?
[21:16] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: FAT32, didn't think about that
[21:16] <erUSUL> Kworth22: :( i'm out of ideas...
[21:16] <Dr_willis> SirBob1701,  i had issues doingm that
[21:16] <frijolie> Dr_willis: never heard of vfat
[21:16] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: however long filepaths will crap on you, and windows doesn't like creating large partions (over 32GB), but linux will.
[21:16] <SirBob1701> hmm
[21:16] <Dr_willis> vfat = the linux name for the windows fat filessytems
[21:16] <SirBob1701> what program do you guys use for ttys?
[21:16] <SirBob1701> gutsy made me remove fbgetty
[21:17] <aclar1> trying audacious now
[21:17] <PurpZeY> I am trying to set a global key command for a terminal event...I saw a wiki that said to set it in gconf under metacity, but I am using compiz-fusion, should I still set it under metacity?
[21:17] <frijolie> Some of my pictures have long filenames
[21:17] <frijolie> 8+ characters
[21:17] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: oh, 8+ is fine, I think that the limit might be like 128chars in the path (or something)
[21:17] <Lockal> lockal@lockal:~> date
[21:17] <Lockal> Чтв Окт 18 00:17:36 MSD 2007
[21:17] <srmerlins> Having a problem with mounting a recognizeable virtual iso in vmware. mount loop -o in /media/iso/ doesn seem to work, any solution?
[21:18] <aclar1> works like a charm, thanks riotkittie
[21:18] <foka> hi all
[21:18] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: ah..so go with FAT32? does it matter which OS does the formatting?
[21:18] <queyas> hello
[21:18] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32#Long_file_names
[21:18] <[g2]> anyone know when I can dist-upgrade to Gutsy ?
[21:18] <pfdutot> hello everyone. Just updated to gutsy, and had to manually apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-386 to get ipw3945 working. Not a big deal for me, but might be unsettling to normal users
[21:18] <Zups> I need help with removing some custom packages from update manager... how do I stop ubuntu update manager from asking me to update with distro .debs?
[21:18] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  set it up with Linux. windows wont let you make a large fat32 filessytem
[21:18] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: looks like 255 chars max in the filename
[21:18] <kraut> when i export my ~ via nfs-kernel-server, why don't i see the data of a partiton mounted in the exported ~ under ~/mnt from a remote-client?
[21:18] <archie1> i ran swith user and now my mouse doesnt work, why did that happen and how can i fix it?
[21:18] <kraut> for example: /dev/mapper/mobiledisk on /home/kraut/mnt/mobiledisk type ext3 (rw)
[21:18] <archie1> *switch
[21:19] <Intangir> is there an ubuntu developer channel? or a launchpad channel? someone put me on the ubuntu development bug tracking mailing list
[21:19] <frijolie> Dr_willis: you just use fdisk right? Sorry, never formatted anything with Linux before
[21:19] <Intangir> and im getting like 100 mails a day
[21:19] <Odd-rationale> frijolie: No it does not matter which OS. But just be aware that fat32 has a file size limit of 4gb
[21:19] <Zups> I tried /etc/apt/preferences, but that one seams to have become obsulete... who knows why...
[21:19] <queyas> i'm looking for someone who was customizing livecd
[21:19] <skiff> anyone has a good link how to make RESTRICTED DRIVERS work for ATI ?
[21:19] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  use gparted
[21:19] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: fdisk will work;  try GParted if you're running a modern distro
[21:19] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  or fdisk. :)
[21:19] <Dr_willis> !ati
[21:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:19] <frijolie> Yeah I'm running Gutsy right now
[21:19] <Whitor> Odd-rationale: fat32 doesn't have a size limit of 4gb
[21:20] <Zina> #ubuntu-fr
[21:20] <Dr_willis> skiff,  i normally install the restricted-manager package and let it do the work
[21:20] <skiff> Dr_willis, I have installed it
[21:20] <Weaver> So is Ubuntu 7.10 supposed to be released at midnight tonight or what?
[21:20] <dromer> erUSUL: ok, I'm booted now (put the disk on the other IDE-cable), and I can find the disk it dmesg, but no idea how and where I can mount is .. it's not recognized in df or when mounting /dev/hdb1
[21:20] <skiff> Dr_willis, it didnt do the proper work though
[21:20] <srmerlins> For Ati and nvidia driver, get Envy.
[21:20] <Zina> je veut allez sur fr
[21:20] <frijolie> Dr_willis: is GParted a distro or an application?
[21:20] <PurpZeY> !fr
[21:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:20] <Odd-rationale> Whitor: OK sorry, my bad. I thought I read that somewhere...
[21:21] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  its on the cd/install/livecd :)
[21:21] <archie1> how can i reset my mouse??
[21:21] <queyas> frijolie, gparted is application
[21:21] <archie1> its not responding
[21:21] <Whitor> Odd-rationale: it has a limitation... but its a lot larger than 4gb ... .fat16 has the 4gb limit
[21:21] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  theres also a gparted-livecd
[21:21] <Kworth22> l
[21:21] <Kworth22> erUSUL, no it does not work... :(
[21:21] <bobgill> Hello, I have one Feisty and one XP box on my home network using Linksys WRT54GS... my aim is to be able to access my Feisty box from anywhere outside... ie., go to bobgill.mysite.com and be able to transfer/move/downlaod/delete/copy files etc. to my box from anywhere... but my network has 192.168.1.1 IP, how can I do this? (I've set up the no-ip.com linux client but geting a domain to redirect to my home network
[21:21] <bobgill> , I'm lost on)
[21:21] <Weaver> So will the Final Release of Ubuntu 7.10 be at midnight tonight or just some undetermined time tomorrow???
[21:22] <tritium> Weaver: not at midnight
[21:22] <Kworth22> erUSUL, ping always returns: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[21:22] <ColonelPanic45> Whitor: are you sure about that limit?  The Wikipedia page lists the limit as 4GiB http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32
[21:22] <frijolie> Dr_willis: so boot to the liveCD and format it that way? I'd be afraid that I'd repartition my data or something
[21:22] <Weaver> tritium: k thx
[21:22] <frijolie> Dr_willis: is it pretty straightforward?
[21:22] <erUSUL> dromer: if it appeared in dmesg you should be able to read there the /dev/ node it was attached to
[21:22] <iami> Hi yall
[21:22] <leg1> ompaul?
[21:22] <Kworth22> erUSUL, markus@markus-laptop:~$ sudo ifdown ppp0
[21:22] <Kworth22> /usr/bin/poff: I could not find a pppd process for provider 'ppp0'. None stopped.
[21:22] <skiff> Dr_willis, in restricted drivers manager you cant do much, you just select ENABLED for the driver, and it supposedly should find the proper one and work, wasnt the case with me however...
[21:22] <srmerlins> Anyone know how to make vmware recognize an iso mounted with the command mount loop -o?
[21:22] <erUSUL> Kworth22: i have seen those msgs due t a missconfigured firewall
[21:22] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: if you're formatting an external usb drive (say), just plug it in, fire up GParted, and partition just that one drive.  Double-check to make sure you're formatting the _external_ drive :-)
[21:23] <iami> What are some realistic ways of accessing data on a 2nd HD (running a crashed linux system) from a Windows drive that I
[21:23] <iami> am currently using
[21:23] <Kworth22> erUSUL okay how to shut down the freaking iptables ?
[21:23] <dromer> erUSUL: hmm, can't see it sorry ..
[21:23] <Zups> anyone able to help please? why is /etc/apt/preferences obolete?!?
[21:23] <Bax> \dromer whisper test
[21:23] <Bax> nope, can't do it
[21:23] <erUSUL> dromer: can you post the dmesg in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[21:23] <tritium> Kworth22: first, you must identify which ones are freaking and which ones are not
[21:23] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: how do you know which is the external drive? hda, hdb, sda, sdb. Isn't that what Linux calls them?
[21:23] <Dr_willis> skiff,  a lot depends on your exact video card.
[21:24] <iami> Can someone help me with acccesssing data on a crashed Hard drive>
[21:24] <Kworth22> tritium, just shut down then i figure out if it is the problem at alll :)
[21:24] <Whitor> ColonelPanic45: Yes, I'm certain. Per the link you posted : 127.53 gigabytes is the fat32 limit
[21:24] <tritium> :)
[21:24] <skiff> Dr_willis, I have ATI 1950pro
[21:24] <tulu> is there a way I can video chat with my girlfriend if she uses ichat and I'm on an ubuntu box?
[21:25] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: I usually look at the size of the drives as well as the existing partitions to determine which one is the external and which is external
[21:25] <tritium> tulu: yes, with gaim
[21:25] <_Roman> Hello, I have a Dell 8400 which has 2 sound cards (an integrated one and an SB Audoligy).  Sound was working fine in fiesty, but now that I have upgraded to Gutsy, I have no sound.  Can anyone help
[21:25] <srmerlins> works with amsn too
[21:25] <tulu> sweet! Thanks, so I just install gaim?
[21:25] <Kworth22> erUSUL: how do I disable all the iptables stuff?
[21:25] <tritium> tulu: it's already installed
[21:25] <tulu> oh.... haha so it is
[21:25] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: yeah, that may work. My external drive is 320GB. Should I do it as all one large partition?
[21:25] <srmerlins> update gaim
[21:26] <iami> HEY DAWGS!
[21:26] <dromer> erUSUL: what is an easy way to copy the entire dmesg to the pastebin? because it's rather large to copy/paste from the shell ..
[21:26] <ColonelPanic45> Whitor:  Where are you seeing that number?  In the table at the top of the page it says "Max file size" and the entry for FAT32 is "4 GiB - 1 byte"
[21:26] <iami> How can I access data from Ubuntu
[21:26] <Whitor> ColonelPanic45: under the fat32 section
[21:26] <ColonelPanic45> Whitor: I think you're looking at the number for maximum _partition_ size
[21:26] <ColonelPanic45> which is different
[21:26] <iami> On a Windows install
[21:26] <srmerlins> question. whats the difference between crossover/wine? any graphical improvement in crossover?
[21:26] <gnr> anyone got a good music player for linux? all the recommended ones are pure shite tbh... :(
[21:27] <iami> gnr: songbird
[21:27] <tulu> is there a way i can test the camera in gaim?
[21:27] <_Roman> gnr: amarok
[21:27] <awalton__> gnr: what kind of music player do you use on other platforms
[21:27] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: the max partition size is 8TiB (much bigger than 320GB)
[21:27] <aclar1> quick question, is the a keyboard shortcut (like alt tab) to switch between workspaces?
[21:27] <awalton__> and srmerlins: crossover and cegeda are commercial forks of wine
[21:27] <_Roman> aclar1:  ctl + shift +  left and right
[21:27] <awalton__> aclar1 ctrl+alt+left/right
[21:28] <awalton__> depending on if you use compiz or metacity.
[21:28] <_Roman> sorry, awalton__: is correct
[21:28] <aclar1> ahh beautiful
[21:28] <aclar1> thanks
[21:28] <erUSUL> dromer: i use xclip 'dmesg | xclip' then middle button to paste
[21:28] <srmerlins> thnx awalton, trying to sort em out, since wine is poor on graphical display.
[21:28] <dromer> oh thnx :)
[21:28] <aclar1> finally feel like im getting the hang of this
[21:28] <erUSUL> dromer: you may have to install it first
[21:28] <Bax> how do I gain root access?
[21:28] <aclar1> not a guru, but moving up from newb to beginner
[21:28] <aclar1> lol
[21:28] <erUSUL> !root > Bax
[21:28] <orbstra> hey I am trying to run ushare on Ubuntu Server (Latest), and every time I try to download it through a repository I added for apt-get, I am told that the libc6 is a dependency and it does not work.. I have libc6 installed completly, and update to the latest version, does anyone know what is wrong
[21:28] <DaMi3n> are there any non-dell brands that ship laptops with ubuntu?
[21:28] <ColonelPanic45> fijolie: You could consider partitioning it with, say everything but 80GB -- that way you could partition that space as ext3 if you needed to transfer a huge file or something
[21:29] <Bax> in the command terminal?
[21:29] <Odd-rationale> Thank you ColonelPanic45. I have been vindicated.
[21:29] <erUSUL> DaMi3n: system76
[21:29] <awalton__> DaMi3n: system76
[21:29] <srmerlins> Bax type sudo -i
[21:29] <dromer> erUSUL: uhuh, thanx alot, sounds like a handy prog :)
[21:29] <awalton__> erUSUL jynx
[21:29] <erUSUL> Bax: use sudo
[21:29] <awalton__> ;)
[21:29] <erUSUL> awalton__: XD
[21:29] <aclar1> thanks everyone...gotta take off, but i will be sure to come back if i need some more help
[21:29] <Bax> YEAH! thanks!
[21:29] <aguitel> anyone use chipset REALTEK rlt8180 ?
[21:29] <DaMi3n> awalton__, erUSUL: do they ship worldwide?
[21:29] <aguitel> !gutsy
[21:29] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[21:29] <srmerlins> yw bax
[21:29] <erUSUL> Kworth22: 'sudo iptables --flush'
[21:29] <Kworth22>  how do I disable all the iptables stuff?
[21:29] <erUSUL> DaMi3n: dunno
[21:29] <queyas> i'm using uck for customizing my livecd. I've changed some things with synaptic, but is there a way to change default apperance - theme, fonts etc?
[21:30] <dromer> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40966/  << the new disk is the SAMSUNG one
[21:30] <Bax> hopefully I won't break my comp
[21:30] <Kworth22> l
[21:30] <watchme> WTF?
[21:30] <Bax> now that I'm in the root, how do I allow open access to another drive on my partitioned disk?
[21:31] <ColonelPanic45> question about dual-booting: is there any way to get GRUB to be the bootloader instead of Windows?  All of the instructions I've seen put GRUB as a slave to Windows' bootloader
[21:31] <Vlet> Kworth22: All it takes is a simple google search for "disable iptables", and the first result is your answer
[21:31] <watchme> ich kann den Buchstaben nicht mehr Tippen der zwischen p und r kommt
[21:31] <orbstra> does anyone have any help for me? I just need to find out why I cannot install uShare, I have found that I am having a problem with a libc6 dependency.. libc6 is already installed, and at its latest version... please?
[21:31] <watchme> *rofl*
[21:31] <ColonelPanic45> and it sounds like Windows just doesn't want to come to the party and play nicely with GRUB
[21:31] <Scorp``on> spricht hier irgendwer deutsch und kann mir bei nem raid problem helfen ?
[21:31] <erUSUL> dromer: it seems /dev/sdb...
[21:32] <bobgill> Can someone help me set up my box so I can access it from anywhere.. I'm on a network, what do I do? I want to go to bobgill.mysite.com and be able to access my box... how do I do this?
[21:32] <Cyber_Stalker> ColonelPanic45, are you sure windows got the invite? last time i check we took them off the buddy list
[21:32] <dromer> hmmmw weird .. that's only for usb-devices isn't it ?
[21:32] <DaMi3n> awalton__, erUSUL: they are costlier than dell T_T
[21:32] <gnr> awaiton__ i use winamp, but new skins, songbird didn;t work for me, but for some reason it started working now, odd....
[21:32] <Vlet> bobgill: here's one way: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/
[21:33] <gnr> whats the best torrent software for linux?
[21:33] <awalton__> gnr: try audacious, it's winamp for linux.
[21:33] <MrAustin1337> Hey all.  I have a DQ35JO Motherboard with the 82Q35 Express Video Chipset and I can't get 3d acceleration to the point that when I run glxinfo X crashes.  Any ideas?
[21:33] <stray77> bobgill, forward port 5900 to your ubuntu boxes ip and use vnc
[21:33] <Dr_willis> !best
[21:33] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[21:33] <erUSUL> dromer: not anymore (they are for scsi disks and now even pata is seen by linux as a scsi disk)
[21:33] <Dr_willis> gnr,  depends on your needs. I use Ktorrent mainly.
[21:33] <erUSUL> !uuid > dromer
[21:33] <dromer> erUSUL: hmm, when I mount /dev/sdb1 the disk seems empty ..
[21:33] <srmerlins> Colonel in which order did u install each OS?
[21:33] <orbstra> anyone?
[21:33] <frijolie> gnr: I use Deluge
[21:33] <orbstra> I think it's a simple problem
[21:33] <orbstra> very simple
[21:33] <gnr> ktorrent is like utorrent?
[21:34] <awalton__> and gnr: ktorrent, rtorrent, deluge and transmission
[21:34] <Dr_willis> gnr,  similer.
[21:34] <gnr> i used utorrent on windows
[21:34] <RDMutt> YAY! NEW RELEASE! question; when can i download a .torrent I want to do as much as I can and seed.
[21:34] <Dr_willis> then again most torrent clients are similer. :)
[21:34] <tushyd> my fingerprint reader (Upek TCS4BA) is not showing up in lsusb, can anyone help?
[21:34] <Scorp``on> spricht hier irgendwer deutsch und kann mir bei nem raid problem helfen ?
[21:34] <gnr> now, my final question....
[21:34] <gnr> what should i have on my pancakes?
[21:34] <bobgill> stray77: how do I do that ?
[21:34] <awalton__> light maple and brown sugar.
[21:34] <awalton__> no butter.
[21:34] <gnr> no maple :(
[21:35] <dromer> erUSUL: /dev/sdb1             9.0G  2.2G  6.5G  25% /media/movies  << that's not right, it's supposed to be 250gb ..
[21:35] <gnr> i was thinking lemon and honey
[21:35] <Raff7> oh shit XD 1325 people
[21:35] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Raff7
[21:35] <ubotu> Raff7: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[21:35] <orbstra> i know someone here can help me in abot 30 seconds, anyone?
[21:35] <ColonelPanic45> srmerlins: well I blew away WindowsXP, partitioned the drive up, and am reinstalling XP first
[21:35] <awalton__> !ask
[21:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:35] <Ward1983> orbstra, if you don't ask the question how cna we answer???
[21:36] <Kworth22> erUSUL: I think the firewall really was the problem -> do you know a good manual for iptables to reconfigure it right?
[21:36] <tushyd> my fingerprint reader (Upek TCS4BA) is not showing up in lsusb, can anyone help?
[21:36] <Dr_willis> gnr,  cooked apples are the best. :)
[21:36] <Jakobsen> I've got a problem. Network Manager crashes, when I try to connect to a VPN with vpnc-network-manager..
[21:36] <gnr> oooer
[21:36] <Zups> why oh why, has /etc/apt/preferences been disabled in ubuntu 7.10?!?, can someone please inform me on how to disable update manager...
[21:36] <Kworth22> dpml: still there?
[21:36] <ColonelPanic45> srmerlins: it sounds like Windows _has_ to occupy space on the MBR (but I'm not certain about that)
[21:36] <orbstra> I am trying to install uShare, I added the repository, and when I try to install it through apt-get, I am told that I am having problems with my libc6 dependency.. Libc6 is up to date as far as I can tell.. I can paste bin the exact error if anyone is willing to look
[21:36] <djm62> Jakobsen: when does it crash?
[21:36] <arno-t> s
[21:36] <erUSUL> Kworth22: i do not use (and not recommend) iptables directly i use frontends such as shorewall (config files)
[21:37] <Vlet> Zups: you mean how to disable auto-updating?
[21:37] <Jakobsen> djm62: right after I type the password
[21:37] <tushyd> any help with my fingerprint reader???
[21:37] <Zups> Vlet: how to remove packages from auto-update, I have my own packages, and really pissed off about update managers popups about update...
[21:37] <administrator> anyone if gutsy will have an automatic feature to install hardware it detects?
[21:38] <djm62> Jakobsen: System->Administration->System Log, and look at "messages"
[21:38] <BarryToeman> erUSUL: why don't you recommend iptables?
[21:38] <bobgill> How do I forward port 5900 to my ubuntu box IP ??
[21:38] <djm62> Jakobsen: any lines about pppd?
[21:38] <RDMutt> bobgill; you'd use your router
[21:38] <erUSUL> BarryToeman: to complex to get it 100% right imho
[21:38] <srmerlins> Colonel try add up linux 1st OS in installation. make sure u format a second drive or partition for xp as 2nd install.
[21:38] <Vlet> administrator: doesn't ubuntu do that already?
[21:38] <Kworth22> erUSUL: okay - i will look for shorewall in the package manager
[21:38] <Kworth22> erUSUL: thanks a lot for your help
[21:38] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: Just erased and reformatted HDD to FAT32. However, It partitioned it as 298GB instead of 320GB
[21:38] <markvandenborre> deskbar-applet is constantly crashing on me
[21:39] <erUSUL> Kworth22: no problem
[21:39] <Jakobsen> djm62: nothing..
[21:39] <markvandenborre> any ideas on how to diagnose the problem?
[21:39] <dromer> erUSUL: sorry to bother you more, I see you are busy .. but uhm, the pc seeing the disk as only 6gb .. that's not right huh ..
[21:39] <Kworth22> m.
[21:39] <BarryToeman> erUSUL: it sure is.  i'm working on it right now.
[21:39] <orbstra> any ideas anyone?
[21:39] <markvandenborre> how can fetch the output of this thing,
[21:39] <dromer> 9gb*
[21:39] <administrator> vlet: no
[21:39] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: that's probably a Gibibyte/ Gigabyte difference
[21:39] <stray77> bobgill, go to http://portforward.com/ and pick your router
[21:39] <administrator> vlet: not that i know of
[21:39] <djm62> Jakobsen: did it use to work?
[21:39] <preaction> frijolie, that's accurate: formatted volume is always less than total capacity. some space is reserved and some space is used by the file system
[21:39] <erUSUL> dromer: use gparted or a tool like that to take a look at the disks
[21:39] <markvandenborre> or rather, how can I fetch the stderr from this applet?
[21:40] <frijolie> ColonelPanic45: but a 20GB difference?
[21:40] <srmerlins> And yeah colonel Ive been working on these installs for last 3 weeks, got my heads up on the 10.4.6 yet. stuck on alternate APCI error..*sigh*
[21:40] <Jakobsen> djm62: No, it's a fresh install. It have never worked
[21:40] <Vlet> administrator: You mean you had to manually install drivers for each piece of hardware on your system, and tell the system what each of those pieces of hardware was?
[21:40] <tushyd> finger print reader not showing up in lsusb, help please
[21:40] <djm62> Jakobsen: have you done the same thing on another ubuntu machine?
[21:41] <administrator> vlet: yes
[21:41] <zengen> I just read about apps for windows and mac that shade out everything on your screen except your current window.  Is there anything like that for linux?
[21:41] <erUSUL> dromer: partitions, free space, etc
[21:41] <administrator> vlet: well im having issues with the wifi card
[21:41] <Jakobsen> djm62: yes, and I did it the exact same way..
[21:41] <Vlet> administrator: are you running on hardware you designed yourself?
[21:41] <Vlet> administrator: oh, so you're having trouble with _A_ piece of hardware
[21:41] <bobgill> stray77: ok I found my router, now it asks me for what application... would I choose SSH? I want to move/download/upload/delete/copy files to and from my box from anywhere, so...
[21:41] <Vlet> administrator: what card?
[21:41] <administrator> vlet: yes
[21:42] <administrator> vlet: netgear WG311
[21:42] <ColonelPanic45> fijolie: the numbers actually work out about right
[21:42] <djm62> Jakobsen: you know you can save VPN settings to a file? you might want to do that on your working machine and load them on the non working one to double check you have exactly the right settings
[21:42] <Jakobsen> djm62: it's *.pcf files from a Cisco VPN Client I am using..
[21:42] <djm62> Jakobsen: although your problem seems a little odd to me - after you type in the password, nm-applet just disappears?
[21:43] <Vibys> should ctrl + alt + left/right show the cube and go to the next desktop?
[21:43] <Vlet> administrator: have you tried this?... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[21:43] <ColonelPanic45> frijolie: 298 * 1024 *1024*1024 = 319,975,063,552
[21:43] <Jakobsen> djm62: Yes, I type the password, press OK, and then it just crashes and disappears
[21:43] <dromer> erUSUL: weird, gparted sees the disk just fine, it's df that thinks it's only 9 gb .. but when I browse to the mountpoint it's just empty ..
[21:43] <djm62> Jakobsen: no waiting around with the weird hovering gold coin?
[21:43] <administrator> vlet: yes i have and i still have issues
[21:43] <quick_nick> is anyone having problems with extremly large fonts on the startup page and all windows?
[21:44] <Jakobsen> djm62: I do not see any hovering gold coin :(
[21:44] <Bax> I'm a root user now, any body know how I can grant access to a partitioned drive for anyone, instead of just the root user
[21:44] <djm62> Jakobsen: can you try NOT using the .pcf file but entering the data manually into a profile?
[21:45] <Vlet> administrator: Well, you'll have to present us with a more specific question about what's not working for you
[21:45] <Jakobsen> djm62: yes, if you can tell me how to get my Network Manager applet back without restarting Gnome..
[21:45] <administrator> vlet: one second
[21:45] <administrator> vlet: http://pastebin.com/m4b8a7a45
[21:45] <erUSUL> dromer: maybe something has gon stray with the disk...?
[21:46] <thade> hello, im just trying to get a md5sum for the ubuntu-7.10-rc-alternate iso, but it seems like the files have vanished from the download servers. Is it just me?
[21:46] <administrator> vlet: this is what im getting when i check
[21:46] <djm62> Jakobsen: nm-applet in terminal might be a good idea
[21:46] <dromer> erUSUL: hmm, I used it a few days ago in a different pc ..
[21:46] <ElReNGo73> hi
[21:46] <ElReNGo73> Anyone knows if tomorrow comes Kubuntu too
[21:46] <djm62> Jakobsen: especially if it spits out any useful information to the terminal next time it dies
[21:46] <dromer> erUSUL: 'comes kubuntu' what?
[21:46] <erUSUL> dromer: what type of filesystem the partition holds?
[21:46] <dromer> ElReNGo73: *
[21:47] <dromer> erUSUL: ext3
[21:47]  * neohaker looks around :O
[21:47] <Vlet> administrator: Well, it would appear that you may not be using the right windows driver... make sure you have the right version, and that you've extracted the contents of whatever archive it is in, and locate the inf for it
[21:47] <kena123> thade: it's still on some of the mirrors. lemmie go find it for you
[21:47] <thade> cool thanks kenal
[21:47] <akorn> Hey, anybody know how to make a panel auto-hide completely, and not leave that 1 or 2 mm space popping out?
[21:47] <erUSUL> dromer: you can use fsck (e2fsck) to check the filesystem...
[21:48] <kena123> 25207b70c3757d0a797205fae7efc31f *ubuntu-7.10-rc-alternate-amd64.iso
[21:48] <kena123> ebce1a0977e461c6c6ee83a65010cd03 *ubuntu-7.10-rc-alternate-i386.iso
[21:48] <kena123> thus saith http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/7.10/
[21:48] <dellph> join #ubuntu-release-party
[21:48] <Kworth22> erUSUL: is shorewall a gui?
[21:48] <thade> thanks a lot!
[21:48] <Jakobsen> djm62: well, nothing happens when I type nm-applet, it looks like the terminal is waiting for something, but no network manager.... :/
[21:48] <lwizardl> hi
[21:48] <kena123> hi!
[21:48] <lwizardl> how do i get a hfs+ partition to mount on 7.04?
[21:49] <erUSUL> Kworth22: nope is config file driven if you want gui use firestarter
[21:49] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Kworth22 about firestarter | Kworth22 see priv msg from ubotu
[21:50] <dromer> erUSUL: ok, got some errors .. let fsck fix it ?
[21:50] <djm62> Jakobsen: this sounds weird and not healthy.  what does nm-tool say?
[21:50] <Jakobsen> djm62: "get_nm_state(): didn't get a reply from NetworkManager."
[21:51] <Jakobsen> djm62: and then "get_nm_state(): didn't get a reply from NetworkManager."
[21:51] <erUSUL> dromer: surelly fsck knows more than me on how to repair ext3 filesystems ...
[21:51] <dromer> haha
[21:51] <Jakobsen> djm62: and then "NetworkManager appears not to be running (could not get its state)."
[21:51] <akorn> anybody here know how to make a panel fully auto-hide?
[21:51] <djm62> OK, so sudo NetworkManager
[21:51] <djm62> and then nm-applet
[21:51] <eistee> de
[21:51] <NinjaSouljah> I am trying to run VMware with ubuntu, is there any way to get my windows share folder working within the VMware software
[21:52] <dromer> erUSUL: ok, I just lost all my data ..
[21:52] <noam_> hi, i have a question. i'm using the binary ATI driver here. what will updating to 7.10 do? start using the driver packaged with ubuntu?
[21:52] <mnml> hi, anyone know a good software to draw class diagrams? (soft enginering)
[21:52] <Q_Continuum> attempting to use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror to set up a gutsy mirror, but it keeps erroring out.  Have been using this script to mirror Feisty with no issue for months.  Anyone able to help real quick?
[21:52] <erUSUL> dromer: :( sorry
[21:52] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | dromer
[21:52] <dromer> only a lost+found left :(
[21:52] <ubotu> dromer: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[21:53] <erUSUL> dromer: that's where fsck leaves the files (or chunks of) that it could recover
[21:53] <dromer> hmm
[21:54] <srmerlins> NinjaSouljah, can reform that question since Iam in vmware atm too.
[21:54] <mnml> hi, anyone know a good software to draw class diagrams? (soft enginering)
[21:54] <erUSUL> dromer: important stuff?
[21:54] <NinjaSouljah> anyway to get a windows share folder working on a VMware station? I am afraid sharing the Wireless Card Connection from linux might be interfering with access permissions. The computer Isn't listed in the Network places area of the VMware Windows XP
[21:54] <erUSUL> mnml: dia?
[21:54] <kompensator_> dr_gonzo_, shouldn't you be learning?
[21:54] <dromer> erUSUL: not 'really' .. 200gb of movies, series, docus etc.
[21:54] <mnml> erUSUL, thanks a lot
[21:55] <farchord> Hey guys, for the first time yesterday, I was in ubuntu all day (yay!), but I got a wierd glitch when I went to sleep. My computer shut down, but my USB keyboard stayed lit.... first time I noticed that!!
[21:55] <farchord> Anyone ever got that^
[21:55] <bobgill> Is there a terminal command I can use to test port forwarding?
[21:55] <olmaler> bye
[21:55] <olmaler> exit
[21:55] <djm62> farchord: now that you mention it, yes, with my bluetooth dongle
[21:55] <olmaler> quit
[21:56] <farchord> djm62, strange bug...
[21:56] <srmerlins> NinjaSouljah, looks like network issue is set to host or private in vmware. try adjust in vmware OS tab.
[21:56] <NinjaSouljah> test the port forwarding with the application you are forwarding
[21:56] <NinjaSouljah> that is the solution
[21:56] <Hatl> hi! why isn't it possible to start kwrite from a root-konsole?
[21:56] <Hatl> i get the following error: kwrite: cannot connect to X server
[21:56] <Jake_001> does anyone know where pidgin keeps its chat logs?
[21:57] <srmerlins> NinjaSouljah, could be sometimes when you set up a virtual OS, u get a chance to specify network host or private.
[21:57] <NinjaSouljah> has anyone been successful at sharing a network folder from one windows computer to a VMware virtual machine?
[21:57] <ZeroA4> Jake_001, /home/user/.gaim/logs
[21:57] <Hatl> Jake_001: strace pidgin :)
[21:57] <eighty4> Jake_001, /home/chris/.gaim/logs
[21:57] <eighty4> ack, beaten to it
[21:57] <djm62> Jake_001: ~/.gaim/logs/protocol/username
[21:57] <Pirate_Hunter> how can i install itunes with wine, it keeps telling me it needs M$ OS?
[21:57] <ZeroA4> eighty4, :)
[21:58] <farchord> Pirate_Hunter, dont think you can
[21:58] <Jake_001> eighty4, Cheers mate
[21:58] <Jake_001> :
[21:58] <Jake_001> )
[21:58] <NinjaSouljah> hello?
[21:58] <Jake_001> :)
[21:58] <NinjaSouljah> has anyone been successful at sharing a network folder from one windows computer to a VMware virtual machine?
[21:58] <magnetron> Pirate_Hunter: did you check the Wine appdb homepage?
[21:58] <djm62> Jake_001: you know you can search them from beagle?
[21:58] <Hatl> if i execute "kwrite" as root i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server"
[21:58] <Pirate_Hunter> farchord: actually you can winehq says you can but doesnt give instructions
[21:58] <Jake_001> beagle/
[21:59] <srmerlins> Pirate_Hunter: http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/10/itunes-73-on-linux-with-wine.html
[21:59] <farchord> Pirate_Hunter, yup
[21:59] <Nitecat> !gutsy
[21:59] <Jake_001> there isnt a gaim folder
[21:59] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[21:59] <NinjaSouljah> I am just wondering if there is some kind of conflic when you use Network Address Translation from the Linux Machine
[21:59] <Jake_001> there isnt a pidgin one either
[21:59] <magnetron> Jake_001: it's hidden
[21:59] <apo`_> Hi
[21:59] <djm62> Jake_001: no ~/.gaim ?
[21:59] <Nitecat> so tomorrow this channel will support gutsy?
[21:59] <dr_gonzo_> kompensator_: it is enough with learning today ;)
[21:59] <NinjaSouljah> ubuntu is so cool
[21:59] <magnetron> Jake_001: hit ctrl+h to show the hidden files in nautilus
[21:59] <Hatl> if i execute "kwrite" as root i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server" what's the problem?
[21:59] <Jake_001> no its pidgin i am using
[21:59] <Nitecat> NinjaSouljah: Yep
[21:59] <dr_gonzo_> NinjaSouljah: yes
[21:59] <NinjaSouljah> is there a good newsreader
[21:59] <Jake_001> i upgraded to gutsy
[21:59] <Nitecat> pidgin = gaim
[21:59] <magnetron> NinjaSouljah: liferea
[21:59] <eighty4> Jake_001, "nautilus ~/.gaim/logs"
[21:59] <NinjaSouljah> yep wha?
[22:00] <apo`_> How do I change the keymap of the flash plugin in firefox? I've set it to qwerty (default is dvorak for me), but the keymap of flash is still dvorak
[22:00] <NinjaSouljah> does it have a superseach feature?
[22:00] <Nitecat> NinjaSouljah: "Yep" ubuntu is so cool
[22:00] <magnetron> NinjaSouljah: install "liferea" with add/remove applications, try it out!
[22:00] <NinjaSouljah> right on
[22:00] <megabytes> tuxsp.pt 61234
[22:00] <NinjaSouljah> does it match up to any of the features newsleecher offers?
[22:00] <Jake_001> says it cant find the folder
[22:01] <eighty4> blimey
[22:01] <NinjaSouljah> newsleecher is the bomb that is why I would never buy a mac
[22:01] <hoarycripple> NinjaSouljah, for leeching, try pan
[22:01] <Pirate_Hunter> srmerlins: thANx will read that
[22:01] <djm62> Jake_001: can you open a terminal?
[22:01] <Jake_001> yeh
[22:01] <hoarycripple> NinjaSouljah, pan.rebelbase.com
[22:01] <Jake_001> thats where i typed it
[22:01] <NinjaSouljah> check out newsleecher.com if you have a windows machine
[22:01] <NinjaSouljah> tell me what you think
[22:01] <eighty4> Jake_001, starting with the stupid questions but you have turned logging on, right? ;-)
[22:01] <Pici> NinjaSouljah: pan is in the ubuntu repositories
[22:01] <srmerlins> Pirate_Hunter, yw. itunes works fine here in wine.
[22:01] <Jake_001> lol
[22:01] <NinjaSouljah> I have tried pan
[22:01] <Jake_001> yeh
[22:01] <NinjaSouljah> pretty basic
[22:01] <djm62> Jake_001: type "cd ~/.gaim" then ls
[22:01] <lwizardl> ok can someone help me out with this I have a USB 2.0 HDD formated as HFS+ using macdrive 7 on windows xp and windows reads this drive perfectly fine and so does my xbox360 but ubuntu when having the hfsplus & hfsutils installed says its unpartitioned
[22:01] <cyber_brain_mfkg> hi all!i've just bought asus notebook with IntelCore2Duo proccessor but i have some problems installing ubuntu(both 6.06 7.04)!can i run ubuntu for 64bit on my processor(Core2Duo T5250)???it seams it has some graphic problems(it has NVidia GeForce 8400M G)!!!any sugestions???
[22:01] <lwizardl> how can i get it to read the drive
[22:01] <Pirate_Hunter> srmerlins: nice to know ;)
[22:02] <NinjaSouljah> I like a program you can search through all the binaries
[22:02] <NinjaSouljah> fast
[22:02] <djm62> Jake_001: just as a total sanity check...
[22:02] <neohaker> !who
[22:02] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[22:02] <Jake_001> no such directory
[22:02] <Jake_001> lol
[22:02] <SilentAssassin> i have some problems with an ATI graphics card
[22:02] <Pici> NinjaSouljah: From what I hear, the best newsreaders in Linux are all console based.
[22:02] <neohaker> !tab
[22:02] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[22:02] <Kworth22> ...
[22:03] <eighty4> Jake_001, open up a nautilus window in your home dir and click on View - Show Hidden Files
[22:03] <NinjaSouljah> I will have to look into it
[22:03] <eighty4> any luck?
[22:03] <djm62> Jake_001: out of interest, can you do "cd ~/.pidgin"?
[22:03] <Nitecat> !tee
[22:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tee - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:03] <Jake_001> no i cant
[22:03] <Jake_001> i have looked at the hidden files
[22:03] <Kworth22> erUSUL: somehow the routing still does not work right: connect: Network is unreachable
[22:03] <Kworth22>  <--- thats what i get
[22:03] <Nitecat> !gnorba
[22:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnorba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:03] <Jake_001> no .pidgin or .gaim
[22:04] <eighty4> hmmmmmm how odd. Jake_001, i'm all out of ideas sorry.
[22:04] <theAtom> !pastebin
[22:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:04] <Kworth22> how do i add a route to route -n <-- over an ppp0 connection ?
[22:04] <NinjaSouljah> bunk the jank
[22:04] <Flare183> Can anyone tell me how to make windows xp on vmware player connect to the internet through a bridged connection
[22:04] <Jake_001> it just seems silly it gives you the option to log and doesnt tell you where the friggin log files are
[22:04] <Nitecat> Jake_001: I think it's .purple
[22:05] <Nitecat> got that one?
[22:05] <theAtom> when I run rootkithunter, I get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40981/     ANY IDEAS PLEASE?
[22:05] <ferr> helo
[22:05] <ferr> y i cant install xmms?
[22:05] <Jake_001> aaahhh found it
[22:05] <Jake_001> :P
[22:05] <squizzle> what time is the torrent for Gutsy final going up? i want to put a 100mbit server on it to help out
[22:05] <Vlet> ferr: be more specific
[22:05] <eighty4> where was it Jake_001?
[22:06] <riotkittie> ferr: i dont know. why cant you install xmms?
[22:06] <farchord> Anyone know any programs that support the playback of VP61 and VP62 streams in linux? VLC only does VP61, and even there, barely does...
[22:06] <Pici> squizzle: when its done, see topic
[22:06] <Jake_001> what gave them the idea to call it purple and not pidgin
[22:06] <squizzle> topic eh
[22:06] <Jake_001> was in my home dir under .purple
[22:06]  * squizzle looks
[22:06] <eighty4> libpurple is the name of the back-end library that pigdin uses
[22:06] <djm62> Jake_001: separating presentation from logic... purple can be the backend for other software
[22:06] <Flare183> Can anyone tell me how to make windows xp on vmware player connect to the internet through a bridged connection?
[22:06] <cyber_brain_mfkg> I have problems to start gui installer on my new laptop(it has core2duo T5250,GeForce8400G M)!anyone 2 help or should i leave this shi*y Vista on it????
[22:06] <Jake_001> oh i see
[22:07] <Hatl> if i execute "kwrite" as root i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server" what's the problem?
[22:07] <Nitecat> Jake_001: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin_%28software%29
[22:07] <Klanticus> hi ppl... I'm having problems with audio. May someone help me please?
[22:07] <Klanticus> I'm using feisty (amd64)
[22:07] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, If the gui wont work, you might have to go get the Alternate CD to run in console
[22:07] <farchord> Klanticus, what kind of problems^
[22:07] <cyber_brain_mfkg> farchord, alternate CD???
[22:07] <farchord> ?
[22:07] <YeTr2> so, any idea when will pidgin make it's way into ubuntu?
[22:07] <awalton__> it's already there.
[22:07] <eighty4> it's in Gutsy, YeTr2
[22:07] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, There's 2 CD versions, Live, and Alternate
[22:07] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: Hey, did you try it in safe graphics mode?
[22:08] <YeTr2> eighty4: thanks
[22:08] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, yes!same thing!
[22:08] <YeTr2> eighty4: and hopefully gutsy will go stable before the end of the month?
[22:08] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: The try alt
[22:08] <ferr> can anyone help me with this...how to enable yahoo mail beta from firefox?it say,not support..
[22:08] <Nitecat> s/The/Then
[22:08] <farchord> YeTr2, Tomorrow actually.
[22:08] <eighty4> YeTr2, it's out very soon. #ubuntu-release-party
[22:08] <eighty4> ;-)
[22:09] <Klanticus> farchord, when the system boots up the sound works, but if I touch any kind of sound config (like volume) it goes away
[22:09] <Vlet> ferr: Yahoo mail beta doesn't support firefox?
[22:09] <Jake_001> oh dear god they dont have a release party ...thats tragic
[22:09] <Jake_001> lol
[22:09] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, it seams it can't start Xserver!can i run 64bit version on my proccessor at all?
[22:09] <YeTr2> farchord: 'tomorrow' is a relative term. I've done as much as '3 weeks later' tomorrow
[22:09] <mariocesar_bo> Dear Friends, The LoCo team from Bolivia are shipping a Ubuntu Distribution base on Ubuntu: Ubuntu Bolivia. You can see a note on http://digg.com/linux_unix/Bolivia_gets_is_own_Linux_Distribution_base_on_Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Bolivia
[22:09] <farchord> Klanticus, I fixed my sound problem with the lil asoundconf utility
[22:09] <bobgill> how do I set a static IP in Feisty... I am in Network Settings > Settings for interface eth0
[22:10] <ferr> Vlet: from here,yes..i have to switch to classic view
[22:10] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: I don't know.  I personally would just use the 32-bit version, for many reasons I've run into in the past
[22:10] <farchord> YeTr2, meh just going by the meter on the ubuntu site lol
[22:10] <Ward1983> mariocesar_bo, what's the difference between the regular ubuntu?
[22:10] <srbaker> so i can't install the gutsy Rc
[22:10] <Klanticus> farchord, how do I use it?
[22:10] <srbaker> on my dell.  it has ATI X1400
[22:10] <YeTr2> farchord: technically, the release is dated as 7.10... that would mean any time in october :P
[22:10] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: Then the 32-bit flash, realplayer, and nvidia drivers will work too
[22:10] <avarner_> is there a way to make a default wireless connection with NetworkManager?
[22:10] <srbaker> anyone know if there are related problems that have been fixed that will be in the final?
[22:10] <Vlet> ferr: Well, that sounds like yahoo's fault, no?
[22:11] <srbaker> perhaps there are nightly builds of gutsy?
[22:11] <cyber_brain_mfkg> farchord, is it posible to run 64bit ubuntu on Core2Duo proccessors at all???
[22:11] <farchord> Klanticus, go in console, type asoundconf list
[22:11] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, Yep, Core2's a x86-64 cpu
[22:11] <ferr> any idea how to enable it?install missing plugins..maybe?
[22:11] <Klanticus> farchord, got 2 devices
[22:11] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: I have dual Turions, and I installed 64-bit, got it working, and then switched to 32 bit after much trouble
[22:11] <farchord> But 64-bit linux has alot of deficiencies, driver-wise.
[22:11] <SP8> gutsy final already anywhere?
[22:11] <YeTr2> avarner_: I would look to debian configuration for /etc/network/interfaces for that. but that's me and my dislike of a few of the utilities that ubuntu choose to include.
[22:11] <Klanticus> farchord, the sound card and TV card
[22:11] <farchord> klanticus: Which?
[22:11] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, what kinda truble?
[22:12] <mariocesar_bo> Ward1983: First it's shippid in a box with stickers and promotional material of Ubuntu, and most important the second CD the AddOns has extra aplication that can be installed using the gnome-app-install, being really easy an fast get every app install it
[22:12] <Hatl> if i execute "kwrite" as root (su -)i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server" what's the problem?
[22:12] <Klanticus> farchord, NVidia and SAA7134
[22:12] <avarner_> YeTr2: Okay thanks
[22:12] <farchord> Klanticus, then, type asoundconf set-default-device nameofcardthatyouwant
[22:12] <farchord> errr
[22:12] <mariocesar_bo> Ward1983: and of course, has Compiz Fusion working on the Live :D
[22:12] <farchord> actually hold on
[22:12] <Vlet> #ubuntu-release-party
[22:12] <theAtom> when I run rootkithunter, I get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40981/     ANY IDEAS PLEASE?
[22:12] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: what farchord and I were talking about.  Driver issues.  Proprietary 3rd party binaries issues, etc.
[22:12] <Seveas> lamont, you make #ubuntu 1337 :p
[22:12] <Ward1983> mariocesar_bo, is it also in english?
[22:12] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, but u r not using 100% of your hardware arn't u?
[22:12] <lwizardl> anyone here use hfs+
[22:12] <farchord> My bad it<s asoundconf set-default-card
[22:12] <ferr> Vlet: any idea how to enable it?install missing plugins..maybe?
[22:13] <mariocesar_bo> Ward1983: No, it's fully on Spanish
[22:13] <Hyperkilla> hey, im using the livecd right now, i just installed fiesty, but when i boot without the cd i get an error
[22:13] <jussi01> 1337!!
[22:13] <farchord> nitecat: If you are really adamant on running it, you could try to download the nvidia driver... not sure how thatd work tho
[22:13] <Ward1983> mariocesar_bo, no language packs for english?
[22:13] <Vlet> ferr: Does yahoo say it doesn't support firefox? What is the error you get?
[22:13] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: Well my word size is 32 bits..... but that seems to be a good thing.  32-bit Ubuntu runs very fast on dual core 64s
[22:13] <Klanticus> farchord, didn't work yet :/
[22:13] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: I'm using more of my hardware than you are ;)
[22:14] <ferr> Vlet: i'll check 1st...cant remmber
[22:14] <mariocesar_bo> Ward1983: No, it has all and just the spanish translations
[22:14] <farchord> klanticus: mmmm not sure tho, might want to check your sound config in gnome then.... sorry im still n00bish to this lol
[22:14] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: I actually installed 32-bit so I could use ALL my peripherals
[22:14] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, u r right haveing the fact that i have Win Vista on it now :D
[22:14] <dominator> exit
[22:14] <Seveas> !u | cyber_brain_mfkg
[22:14] <ubotu> cyber_brain_mfkg: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[22:14] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: lol..
[22:14] <Ward1983> mariocesar_bo, ok thanx for the info
[22:14] <farchord> Nitecat, Only device I cant use either way is my ATi TV Wonder Elite PCI card, and thats cuz it has 0 drivers :(
[22:15] <Klanticus> farchord, there should be no problems with gnome, because I can always reset to get sound back
[22:15] <Nitecat> farchord: :(
[22:15] <Klanticus> farchord, looks like some kind of driver problem
[22:15] <farchord> Klanticus, Maybe... I dont have enough experience yet to give you a straight answer, sorry
[22:15] <Ward1983> mariocesar_bo, would have been cooler if the improvements were for the whole communitty imo though
[22:16] <Klanticus> farchord, ok.. thank you anyway
[22:16] <farchord> np
[22:16] <psyferre> hey folks, anyone have experience with ndiswrapper?  My wireless USB device is not supported, and despite following instructions in forums i'm still having some trouble
[22:17] <Klanticus> psyferre, what kind of problems?
[22:17] <psyferre> ndiswrapper -l shows that both drivers i need are installed, but it's also supposed to say that the device is present, which it does not
[22:17] <mark____-> both drivers-why does it need two?
[22:17]  * Nitecat is about to delve into some ndiswrapper in a sec. :(
[22:18] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, the problem is that it won't start install at all when i use ubuntu 7.04 64bit!i can run 6.06 32bit in safe graphic mode but not in full,kubuntu 64 won't boot at all,and ubuntu 7.04 32 has also Xserver problem!!!it might be a graphic card issue???
[22:18] <psyferre> y'know, i really have no idea mark :)
[22:18] <Hatl> if i execute "kwrite" as root (su -) i get the following error: "kwrite: cannot connect to X server" what's the problem?
[22:18] <Nitecat> mark____-: some devices need the .inf and the .sys
[22:18] <santander> hi, how do i find which module is linked to eth0?
[22:18] <psyferre> this is what i'm going by: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414023
[22:18] <Pici> santander: lsmod
[22:18] <Pici> santander: er, lsmod | grep eth0
[22:18] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: I'm pretty sure if you use 32-bit you can get the nvidia drivers working
[22:19] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: and then it will be alright
[22:19] <santander> this return nothing
[22:19] <Ward1983> cyber_brain_mfkg, Nitecat is right in my experience
[22:19] <Klanticus> Nitecat, do you have an Nvidia card?
[22:19] <santander> i looked in the output of lsmod already, and can't find it
[22:19] <Nitecat> Klanticus: Yes
[22:19] <psyferre> the latest version of ndiswrapper did away with step 4 and changed it to just -i instead of load_fw_ar5523
[22:19] <mark____-> thanks Nitecat didnt know
[22:19] <boubbin> is there a command like stopx, when there is startx ? :)
[22:19] <Klanticus> Nitecat, I'm using ubuntu 7.04 64 bits here
[22:19] <Nitecat> Klanticus: in a dual core turion notebook.  It works really well
[22:20] <mark____-> give me moment psyferre will check-just eating dinner:)
[22:20] <Klanticus> Nitecat, gfx card works good here too...
[22:20] <Nitecat> Klanticus: I had to give it up.... just got tired of it flaking out :)
[22:20] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, ok!but why they are make 64bit versions at all if they can't get them work!:S
[22:20] <Hyperkilla> how do i format a hard drive  please?
[22:20] <psyferre> thanks for your help mark, enjoy your dinner :)
[22:20] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: If you wanted an apache server, I'd say excellent choice :P
[22:20] <squizzle> use a big fat magnet
[22:20] <theAtom> !pastebin
[22:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:20] <Isadora> Boa tarde, vim aqui pra trollar
[22:20] <Isadora> =)
[22:20] <LjL> !br
[22:20] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:21] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, cuz were still pretty much in the 64-bit transition. Even Windows is not fully 64-bit just yet.
[22:21] <Ward1983> Isadora, are you affiliated somehow with the isadora VJ software by any chance?
[22:21] <bottiger> how do I find out how much harddrive space I have on my server?
[22:21] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: Klanticus likes his 64-bit machine.  Maybe they make it for people like him that can make everything they need work
[22:21] <Nitecat> :)
[22:21] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, thanx man!i'll try something other...Fedora or something else
[22:22] <rjack> bottiger: df -h
[22:22] <Nitecat> cyber_brain_mfkg: You're gonna have the same probs.  I'd still recommend 32-bit ubuntu
[22:22] <santander> Pici : lsmod | grep eth0 gives nothing, i lloked before in the output of lsmod, but i don't find it
[22:22] <Nitecat> and unfortunately I must go
[22:22] <Nitecat> bye all
[22:22]  * Nitecat waves
[22:22] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, heres food for thoughts.... when you get kicked in the console, on your boot cd, do apt-get install nvidia-glx
[22:22] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Nitecat, i think i'll take your advice...but ubuntu 32 7.04 won't work also
[22:22] <novacheck> anyone familar with emerald theme manager
[22:22] <farchord> and see if it works
[22:22] <Klanticus> cyber_brain_mfkg, the only problem I got with 64bits is flash and java applets not working
[22:22] <Hyperkilla> can someone please show me how to format a hard drive please?
[22:22] <Zapt> hihi
[22:22] <Cryoniq> What time is Gutsy released the 18th?
[22:23] <PriceChild> Cryoniq, /topic
[22:23] <bottiger> rjack: okey - and what can you make out from this: http://pastebin.ca/740329
[22:23] <Klanticus> cyber_brain_mfkg, it takes some work to install the 32 bit firefox
[22:23] <novacheck> how do i get themes to work in emerald
[22:23] <cyber_brain_mfkg> farchord, i'll try that!
[22:23] <novacheck> i see there are two installed but how to i apply them
[22:24] <Pici> santander: go through lshw | less, the section for your eth card should show what driver its using.
[22:24] <Ward1983> topic
[22:24] <Klanticus> does someone got problems with nvidia sound chipset?
[22:24] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Klanticus, my problem is that i can't even get to console with 64bit version of 7.04
[22:24] <novacheck> do you have ati card
[22:24] <dagi3d> hi. where can I can change the compiz options in gutsy gibon? I dont see any option...
[22:24] <Ward1983> oops accidental paste
[22:25] <farchord> cyber_brain_mfkg, After you done that, and installation succeeded, do nvidia-xconfig. Then, do /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:25] <psyferre> anyone know why the gui for ndiswrapper would just start and then disappear?
[22:25] <r3dn3ss> does running two window managers effect performance?
[22:25] <santander> Pici : i found it, it's tulip, thank you very much :)
[22:25] <FRiDG3> crap, I messed up 1337 users ;)
[22:25] <eighty4> dagi3d, sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager i think
[22:26] <r3dn3ss> If I have two users logged in to a machine would it be faster to have both of them running the same window manager, or would 1 KDE 1 Gnome be the same?
[22:26] <Ricket> So what about ubuntu 7.10 will change tomorrow? I just decided to go get it, but then I find out that right now only a release candidate is available and the real one will be out tomorrow... should I wait until tomorrow or go ahead and start the download?
[22:26] <leexgx> the torrent should work well
[22:26] <leexgx> be intresting to see how meny users wanting it
[22:27] <leexgx> i could see it hitting 10k heh
[22:27] <matt1> Ricket: it's *nice* to have the 'final' version burned
[22:27] <Ward1983> If i ever improve ubuntu, i'm just gonna release it for the people that speak the local dialect (somehow like ubuntu bolivia is doing)
[22:27] <nj786> hey can anybody tell me how to update to the new ubuntu?
[22:27] <Ward1983> really good for the community
[22:27] <Ricket> matt1: well, i don't even plan on burning this, I'll be using it through a virtual machine, at least for the next few weeks. so anything that changes by tomorrow should just come through synaptic, right?
[22:28] <net_mask> nj786, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:28] <farchord> nj786: it<s not 100% complete yet, you are SURE you wanna do it^
[22:28] <dagi3d> eighty4: thanks, thats was the package to install :)
[22:28] <farchord> ?
[22:28] <farchord> net_mask, not yet.... that wont work
[22:28] <eighty4> dagi3d, no sweat :)
[22:28] <nj786> farchord: why do you ask that should i not? what are the issues?
[22:28] <H264> nj786: join the channel #ubuntu-release-party and wait another day ;)
[22:28] <matt1> Ricket: that makes sense... just new synaptic updates
[22:28] <farchord> It<s Beta.
[22:28] <farchord> Unreleased.
[22:28] <serenityUK> i think it's frozen now, out tomorrow man
[22:28] <r3dn3ss> If I have two users logged in to a machine would it be faster to have both of them running the same window manager, or would 1 KDE 1 Gnome be the same?
[22:29] <nj786> H264: so your sayin is the final version will come out tomorrow?
[22:29] <farchord> serenityUK, Not sure if the latest version is on the reps yet tho
[22:29] <H264> nj786: yeah
[22:29] <fujin_> r3dn3ss: being that KDE is bloatware, I'd say it wouldn't be the same
[22:29] <eighty4> r3dn3ss, i would guess that running two window managers would mean having both sets of libs in use, so yeah
[22:29] <H264> nj786: that is what everybody in #ubuntu-release-party is waiting for... :)
[22:29] <BOZG> can anyone explain to me why I'm so excited?
[22:30] <farchord> BOZG, is your gf on your lap
[22:30] <farchord> ?
[22:30] <serenityUK> i've been running since tribe3 lol
[22:30] <YeTr2> r3dn3ss: each would get a sperate instance of the WM, so it doesn't matter.
[22:30] <LjL> !ot
[22:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:30] <Ryuho> what's a shortcut for bringing up terminal within Xfce
[22:30] <dondanielo> do you have that issue, too : http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/16338/
[22:30] <bruenig> Ryuho, bind a key combination to the command "Terminal"
[22:30] <Ryuho> okay
[22:30] <bruenig> needs to be capitalized
[22:30] <BOZG> farchord: ha ha, I wish
[22:31] <farchord> BOZG,  ;)
[22:31] <mazzen> hi! is it possible to install a non-gui ubuntu (without X)  with the live-cd?
[22:31] <bruenig> mazzen, no
[22:31] <mazzen> bruenig: thanks!
[22:31] <BOZG> it's great that the full version is being released but I've no reason to feel this excited about it
[22:31] <serenityUK> server edition is cli only but not livecd
[22:31] <matt1> can anyone tell me the difference between blackbox, openbox and fluxbox?  which one should I use on a legacy system?
[22:31] <jim> can someone help me with compiling synergy from source?
[22:32] <H264> mazzen: you could get the server edition and install that...
[22:32] <[X]treme> #ubuntu (1337 users) <--- nice
[22:32] <mazzen> bruenig: simple question, simple answer :-)
[22:32] <theAtom> !pastebin
[22:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:32] <farchord> 1337 :D
[22:32] <bruenig> I guess that is one thing discrete release distros have. Even though releases are inconsequential and more illusions than anything else, they create an anticipation as unjustified as that anticipation is.
[22:32] <jim> please anyone?
[22:32] <cyber_brain_mfkg> farchord, i get this message: "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)...sh:can't access tty;job control turned off"!!!
[22:33] <princess^> does anyone know what hda1?
[22:33] <psyferre> hey, odd request here... i set an alert to let me know if someone is talking to me.  would someone please say psyferre so I can see if it dings?  I'd be much obliged :)
[22:33] <aardfox> hah, when I entered the chat there were 1337 users in the room :)
[22:33] <farchord> cyber: Whoa, no idea mate...
[22:33] <nikin> is there any way to set my 15" 4:3 TFT to 840x480? it is no problem if there are black borders around it. I tried Virtual in xorg.conf but it sets resolution to 640x480 and scrols horizontaly
[22:33] <mazzen> H264: thanks. my bandwith isnt so good and so  i hoped, i wont have to dowload another image
[22:33] <stray77> psyferre
[22:33] <matt1> cyber_brain_mfkg: that problem has many reasons, i often get it after an update... theres some solution on the forum
[22:33] <jim> can someone help me with compiling?
[22:33] <psyferre> thanks stray, i'll never miss a message again!
[22:33] <[X]treme> Anyone interested in buying web hosting ?
[22:34] <eighty4> no thanks [X]treme
[22:34] <Stev> is a good idea to install 64bit version? should i expect problems with applications (maybe when mixing 32/64 code)? how much this improves performance?
[22:34] <cyber_brain_mfkg> matt1, update?i can't even start install of os! :S
[22:34] <matt1> cyber_brain_mfkg: i find i usually need to change my grub settings for the location of the the kernel and check my /etc/fstab
[22:34] <[X]treme> www.nano-host.com <---- RELIABLE WEB HOSTING
[22:34] <H264> mazzen: you could just uninstall X and whatever else you don't want...
[22:34] <farchord> matt1, hes on the livecd
[22:34] <Jammer> Stev, it's a hassle with little performance difference :p
[22:35] <matt1> farchord: ooh interesting... my mistake.. sry to dive in
[22:35] <Klanticus> Stev, you may find problems with browser. There are no official 64bit flash players
[22:35] <farchord> matt1, np m8, ur trying to help :)
[22:35] <nikin> is there any way to set my 15" 4:3 TFT to 840x480? it is no problem if there are black borders around it. I tried Virtual in xorg.conf but it sets resolution to 640x480 and scrols horizontaly
[22:35] <Sitherae> I know this isn't really the place to ask but the guys over at #winehq aren't resonding. What do you type in the launcher to execute a file in DX8?
[22:36] <crafteh> how can I edit the compiz fusion settings in 7.10 in addition to the options in the appearance dialog box?
[22:36] <Klanticus> Stev, I can't tell you about performance. Never benchmarked it
[22:36] <matt1> any blackbox, fluxbox, or openbox users?
[22:36] <Stev> Jammer, Klanticus: tnx
[22:36] <mark____-> psyferre, there?
[22:36] <jim> can someone help me with compiling?
[22:36] <mark____-> i pmd u
[22:36] <psyferre> yup
[22:36] <Aramil> i used to be an openbox one :)
[22:36] <mark____-> jim, what is up
[22:36] <mark____-> have u installed build-essential?
[22:36] <Klanticus> jim, what did you wanna compile?
[22:36] <eighty4> crafteh, "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[22:37] <psyferre> mark____-: huh, i didn't get it... using trillian for IRC, so maybe that's it
[22:37] <jim> yah i installed build esspential
[22:37] <mark____-> aha ok
[22:37] <jim> then i dunno where to go from there
[22:37] <matt1> Aramil: is openbox preferable to blackbox or flux?
[22:37] <crafteh> eighty4, thanks
[22:37] <ebirtaid> openbox is the best imho
[22:37] <psyferre> mark____-: i have not
[22:37] <jim> im trying to compile synergy
[22:37] <Aramil> well i think it was the best
[22:37] <Aramil> very easy
[22:37] <Aramil> and very fast
[22:37] <mark____-> psyferre, ok whats status so far, whats the problem,
[22:38] <mark____-> and got the url again, il give it a qukck read
[22:38] <psyferre> mark____-: I was just looking up how to do that.  Do i need build-essential to use ndiswrapper?
[22:38] <mark____-> nono
[22:38] <mark____-> :)
[22:38] <matt1> ebirtaid: I'm working on setting up openbox now, but I wanted to check if open is the better way to go than black or flux.. to avoid redoing setup
[22:38] <Klanticus> jim, well I never compiled it. Do you know how to use the console?
[22:38] <BOZG> where are system sounds kept by default on Gutsy does anyone know?
[22:38] <psyferre> mark____-:this is what i'm using: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414023
[22:38] <disinterested> one day till gutsy
[22:38] <ebirtaid> it all boils down to preference, they are pretty much the same
[22:38] <jim> Klanticus, not too clear
[22:39] <ebirtaid> openbox is more configurable
[22:39] <subdancer> hi there
[22:39] <idrop> Hi, On feisty w/ an intel next-gen wireless n card:  4965AGN. Using NDISWrapper to fire up windows drivers. Believe gutsy will support this wireless card 'out of the box' now. If so, would I need to uninstall  NDISWrapper before moving to gutsy?
[22:39] <ebirtaid> and faster in my experience
[22:39] <ebirtaid> flux has a panel though
[22:39] <jim> Klanticus, but ive used it and compiled things under ubuntu before, i just forgot how now
[22:39] <subdancer> does anyone knowing if the release goes live in 20 mins?
[22:39] <Lifeisfunny> 'sup sundancer
[22:39] <colbert> how do I disable ipv6 on Feisty ??
[22:39] <aardfox> wierd
[22:39] <Klanticus> jim, can you go to the directory where you have the sources?
[22:39] <mark____-> subdancer, i wondered also
[22:39] <matt1> ebirtaid: i read some user's opinions that black was basically dead/neglected
[22:39] <eighty4> subdancer, probably not. feisty was mid-afternoon UTC, apparently.
[22:39] <mark____-> eu time, day almost done
[22:39] <jim> Klanticus, in the console?
[22:39] <aardfox> i can join any channel but the #python channel, anyone else get this problem?
[22:39] <Klanticus> jim, yep
[22:40] <subdancer> ahh crap i already cleaned my hd :)
[22:40] <ebirtaid> it's starting to be developed again from what I have read but it is not nearly as active as flux or open
[22:40] <jim> Klanticus, im there
[22:40] <matt1> subdancer: when fesity came out it didn't get released till like 3 or 4 in the morning new york time
[22:40] <mark____-> psyferre, ok u said u didnt have to do step 4, why..and yea install build-essential
[22:40] <Klanticus> jim, are there any file named configure or Makefile?
[22:41] <jim> Klanticus, there is one named synergy.conf
[22:41] <ebirtaid> hehe
[22:41] <jim> Klanticus, but no configure or makefile
[22:41] <psyferre> mark____-: step 4 was done away with under the latest version of ndiswrapper... doesn't work anymore
[22:41] <firefly2442> is Ubuntu being released tonight or tomorrow?
[22:41] <stray77> aardfoxm, i think you need to register your nick to get in there, i have no problem
[22:41] <Klanticus> jim, any sub directories?
[22:41] <subdancer> well gutsy will free me from windows completly
[22:41] <psyferre> mark____-: isntead you replace load_fw_ar5523 with -i and load it like a driver
[22:42] <jim> Klanticus, yes but that is just docs
[22:42] <Lifeisfunny> is gutsy this release?
[22:42] <mcscruff> lo anyone use wine + java?
[22:42] <psyferre> mark____-: can i use apt-get to install build-essentials?
[22:42] <subdancer> yap
[22:42] <Lifeisfunny> cool
 gutsy gibbons
[22:42] <Lifeisfunny> hanks
[22:42] <Lifeisfunny> thanks
[22:42] <firefly2442> is ubuntu being released tonight or tomorrow?
 8.04 is calles hardy heron
[22:43] <Klanticus> jim, aren't there any readme or install doc?
[22:43] <matt1> isn't there a command I can type which will turn my feisty into gutsy via apt-get?
[22:43] <mark____-> psyferre, so ndiswrapper -i ar5523.bin ?
[22:43] <Lifeisfunny> no kidding
[22:43] <mark____-> psyferre, yep sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:43] <ebirtaid> matt1: you have to edit your sources.list
[22:43] <Bothered> matt1: sure is
[22:43] <disinterested> firefly2442: we really aren't sure
[22:43] <Lifeisfunny> I would have thought hippo's hiney
[22:43] <jim> Klanticus, yeah
[22:43] <firefly2442> ok thanks, just curious, trying to figure out ircII here... ;)
[22:43] <Lifeisfunny> "the big rig"
[22:43] <psyferre> mark____-: yes, that the command.  I had tried using apt-get but, i hadn't updated my list
[22:44] <Lifeisfunny> bwahhahahha
[22:44] <Klanticus> jim, take a look at them. they should contain all the instructions
[22:44] <jim> Klanticus. the doc directory is a copy of this page, http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[22:44] <claws_bugs> hi folks
[22:44] <claws_bugs> hows life
[22:44] <Sitherae> Does anyone know how to execute .patch files?
[22:44] <Lifeisfunny> howdy claws
[22:44] <jim> Klanticus, i dont understand what ./configure is
[22:44] <ebirtaid> jim: it is a command
[22:45] <ebirtaid> run it in a terminal
[22:45] <claws_bugs> jimster are you compiling for the first time?
[22:45] <claws_bugs> what are ye compiling?
[22:45] <nikin> is there any way to set my 15" 4:3 TFT to 840x480? it is no problem if there are black borders around it. I tried Virtual in xorg.conf but it sets resolution to 640x480 and scrols horizontaly
[22:45] <jim> ebirtaid, just type in ./configure?
[22:45] <ebirtaid> yes
[22:45] <ebirtaid> 17:39:18 < fn'jim> Klanticus, but ive used it and compiled things under ubuntu before, i just forgot how now
[22:45] <ebirtaid> hmmmm
[22:45] <jim> claws_bugs, synergy
[22:45] <claws_bugs> read the README
[22:45] <claws_bugs> then INSTALL
[22:45] <ebirtaid> indeed
[22:46] <claws_bugs> then usually its ./configure;make;make install
[22:46] <ebirtaid> sudo make install
[22:46] <ebirtaid> for global
[22:46] <Bothered> matt1: I can't find the link right now, but you can upgrade via the command line
[22:46] <claws_bugs> if you want to put it somewhere special
[22:46] <thedonvaughn> i'd recommend using && instead of ';' when combining commands
[22:46] <eighty4> claws_bugs, would it be preferable to use ; or && ?
[22:46] <eighty4> lol beaten to it
[22:46] <ebirtaid> ; works
[22:46] <claws_bugs> ./configure --prefix=/some/dir;make;make install
[22:46] <thedonvaughn> eighty4: &&
[22:46] <mark____-> aha, so has u got build-essential now?
[22:46] <thedonvaughn> ; does not check if the previous command succeeded
[22:46] <thedonvaughn> which is important
[22:46] <claws_bugs> eighty4 hm never thought about it
[22:46] <ebirtaid> true
[22:46] <thedonvaughn> bad habit to break
[22:46] <jim> i'll try that
[22:46] <Bothered> matt1: I can't find the link, but you can definitely upgrade via the command line
[22:47] <disinterested> i must admit linux is more complicated than windows but its nice not having all those spftwaare install cd's
[22:47] <claws_bugs> oow
[22:47] <claws_bugs> ok
[22:47] <claws_bugs> see
[22:47] <hyper_b0le>  /sigh hurry up ubuntu -.-
[22:47] <claws_bugs> learn every day with linux
[22:47] <ebirtaid> matt1: change all instances of feisty to gutsy in your /etc/apt/sources.list , then run apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:47] <hyper_b0le> Why so?
[22:47] <hurricaneharry> Sitherae: "patch" ( man patch )
[22:47] <nikin> !xserver
[22:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:48] <mark____-> psyferre, u got build-essential now?
[22:48] <BOZG> something in compiz keeps merging the top of my windows with the taskbar and so the choices to minimise, maximise and close disappear?
[22:48] <BOZG> anyone know what setting it is?
[22:48] <Sitherae> hurricaneharry: https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=371929&group_id=134206
[22:48] <psyferre> mark____-: workin' on it... my wired internet connection has suddenly flaked out
[22:48] <psyferre> bah
[22:48] <aardfox> I've just got to say, with Gutsy Gibbons Ubuntu is by far the sexiest operating system ever.
[22:49] <ebirtaid> gibbon
[22:49] <ebirtaid> there is no s
[22:49] <claws_bugs> I prefer archlinux
[22:49] <eighty4> BOZG, you can get the borders back by pressing alt-F2 and typing "metacity --replace"
[22:49] <aardfox> and I'd just like to say thanks to anyone who had something to do with it
[22:49] <ebirtaid> pclos got my wireless working
[22:49] <ebirtaid> shrug
[22:49] <claws_bugs> havent tried opensolaris or gotten into plan9 yet
[22:50] <aardfox> also, could someone try joining #python and tell me if they're successful?
[22:50] <nikin> is there any way to set my 15" 4:3 TFT to 840x480? it is no problem if there are black borders around it. I tried Virtual in xorg.conf but it sets resolution to 640x480 and scrols horizontaly
[22:50] <eighty4> aardfox, works for me
[22:50] <hyper_b0le> Doesnt work for me
[22:50] <ebirtaid> aardfox: yep
[22:50] <Lifeisfunny> aardfox, no dice
[22:50] <BOZG> eighty4: that worked but it seems to have disable compiz altogether
[22:50] <aardfox> wierd, it won't let me join
[22:50] <Bothered> aardfox: doesn't work for me
[22:50] <crdlb> aardfox, you need to register
[22:50] <aardfox> thanks guys :)
[22:51] <tux97> hi does  7.10 beavailbe at midnight?
[22:51] <Lifeisfunny> post that appears in the server window of the irc chat client:     #python :You need to be identified to join that channel
[22:51] <eighty4> tux97, at some point before 23:59 on the 18th :P
[22:51] <ebirtaid> h4r
[22:51] <ebirtaid> just download the nightly if its that big a deal
[22:52] <hurricaneharry> Sitherae: This patch is against Wine CVS as of 2005-11-18. wich in essention means you need the source code of that date and then you can aplly the patch.
[22:52] <aardfox> crdlb, how do i register?
[22:52] <Gin> hi, how do you use update-manager to see if there is an dist upgrade available?
[22:52] <volk> I have a stupid quesion - how can I make an ntfs drive world readable on server version of ubuntu? It works fine on normal ubuntu, but when I mount it as root on my server no other user can read from it and permissions cannot be changed to allow that :S
[22:52] <ebirtaid> aardfox:  /msg nickserv identify password
[22:52] <crdlb> !register | aardfox
[22:52] <ubotu> aardfox: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[22:52] <mark____-> psyferre, pm
[22:52] <Neosophist> Lifeisfunny: you need to register your nickname to join python
[22:52] <crdlb> aardfox, if you need help, ask in #freenode
[22:52] <Neosophist> Lifeisfunny: /nickserv help
[22:52] <Lifeisfunny> neofax, thanks but I was relaying that info to aardfox
[22:52] <lunahood> if i try to run a backup with simple-backup i got this message: "E: Another Simple Backup daemon already running: exiting" ... how i can finish this current/running process ?
[22:52] <Gin> hi, how do you use update-manager to see if there is an dist upgrade available?
[22:53] <aardfox> thanks a bunch guys :)
[22:53] <ebirtaid> lunahood:  kill -9 pid
[22:53] <tux97> eighty4 so hopefully before the 18 right
[22:53] <aardfox> time to delve into python
[22:53] <l_r> hello
[22:53] <Gin> !upgrade
[22:53] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - Please join #ubuntu+1 for questions about upgrading to Gutsy, and use #ubuntu for "normal" support only
[22:53] <ebirtaid> tux97: ON the 18th
[22:53] <Lifeisfunny> with all due respect; I don't have the interest in joining #python
[22:53] <s33k3rgr> can i ask questions here?
[22:53] <l_r> any news from ubuntu.com about the new isos?
[22:53] <eighty4> tux, at some point ON the 18th.
[22:53] <tux97> oh ok ty
[22:54] <runemaste644> My gnome-panel will not start after i tried to remove some stupid theme it will not get off of
[22:54] <tux97> should i wait or go ahead and get it?
[22:54] <eighty4> tux97, Fiesty was apparently mid-afternoon UTC, so...
[22:54] <lunahood> ebirtaid, thanks ... try to find out the pid :)
[22:54] <ebirtaid> lunahood:  ps -x will do it
[22:54] <mark____-> psyferre, : after u installed build-essential do modprobe -l  - and look for ar5523 or netwpn111 | then try modprobe modulename (whichever module u find) if its already loaded unload it sudo rmmod module_name and reload sudo modprobe module_name
[22:54] <psyferre> mark____-: for some reason i cannot receive PMs.  Looking for a setting on trillian that will allow it
[22:54] <warsocket> oh the gutsy release, I prefer just the download the release candidate cause on the day itself it'll take hours to download the iso
[22:54] <psyferre> mark____-: ahh, okay.. that's simple enough
[22:54] <s33k3rgr> a question....
[22:54] <eighty4> warsocket, the torrent should cope ok
[22:54] <ebirtaid> you would think
[22:55] <mark____-> psyferre, hopefully that will work mate, i have to run in a bit, got work
[22:55] <psyferre> mark__: gotcha, thanks for your help man
[22:55] <s33k3rgr> i just installed ubuntu on an external usb stick....
[22:55]  * psyferre gives mark____- a beer
[22:55] <s33k3rgr> and i want my internal hard disk to be mounted at boot time
[22:55] <Jerome_> Hi, I just installed conky, now I can't seem to click on desktop icons, I'm running AMD64 version of ubuntu... anyone have any tips?
[22:55] <runemaste644> My gnome-panel will not start after i tried to remove some stupid theme it will not get off of
[22:55] <nikin> is there any way to set the desktop to a lower level than the resolution?
[22:55] <mark____-> psyferre,  one thing u regged on ubuntuforums?
[22:55] <eighty4> s33k3rgr, have you checked your bios?
[22:55] <s33k3rgr> so i can use it as storage
[22:56] <psyferre> yup
[22:56] <ebirtaid> jerome:  are you using the proper own_window settings for your wm?
[22:56] <s33k3rgr> yep
[22:56] <mark____-> if you have any problems go to that post -http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414023 and post on there
[22:56] <Jerome_> ebird: I'm not 100% sure....
[22:56] <mark____-> il check there at work if any probs mate
[22:56] <mark____-> oke?
[22:56] <mark____-> :)
[22:56] <mark____-> laters mate
[22:56] <psyferre> mark____-: thanks!  have a good one :)
[22:56] <psyferre> cheers!
[22:56] <runemaste644> My gnome-panel will not start after i tried to remove some stupid theme it will not get off of
[22:56] <eighty4> oh sorry i only got half your question. s33k3rgr, you need to put the hard drive in /etc/fstab
[22:56] <ebirtaid> jerome_:  search the forums for beatiful conky, or read the docs; for nautilus there are certain settings necessary along with kde also
[22:56] <NemesisD> is there a way to access the run application  dialog without the alt+f2 key combination? (im using freenx)
[22:56] <mark____-> no prob, but do post if it doesnt work id like to know why and try to help=]
[22:56] <mark____-> off now
[22:56] <mark____-> *poof*
[22:56] <Jerome_> I'm just running gnome
[22:57] <ebirtaid> nemesis: open a terminal ;p
[22:57] <Jeriath> any way to share a scanner on ubuntu?
[22:57] <ebirtaid> jerome_: then you use natilus
[22:57] <s33k3rgr> and then i would be able to write to it?
[22:57] <s33k3rgr> files and stuff?
[22:57] <claws_bugs> what is the command to export the x server so i can connect from a windows box again?
[22:57] <Jeriath> like for a 3in1 thing
[22:57] <Jerome_> ebird: thank you very much though, gives me a place to start looking :P
[22:57] <NemesisD> ebirtaid, i don't want a terminal just lingering around doing nothing :P
[22:57] <runemaste644> My gnome-panel will not start after i tried to remove some stupid theme it will not get off of
[22:57] <ebirtaid> ;)
[22:57] <claws_bugs> export DISPLAY=(ip)0:0 ?
[22:57] <eighty4> s33k3rgr, if it's mounted properly in fstab
[22:57] <runemaste644> i was able to get to xchat via /usr/share/applications
[22:57] <ebirtaid> jerome_:  I think you need to set own_window to yes
[22:57] <claws_bugs> iceWM is nice window mgr
[22:57] <NemesisD> CRAP
[22:57] <NemesisD> anyone use freenx?
[22:58] <s33k3rgr> and then i would be able to write to it?yes
[22:58] <nikin> Nemesis: you can use bbrun (i use it under fluxbox)
[22:58] <srbaker> folks
[22:58] <s33k3rgr> yes
[22:58] <srmerlins> Lo, how do ya get vmware to recognize a mounted /media/iso/? only seeing removable devices.
[22:58] <srbaker> the fglrx driver isn't installed in gutsy RC by default
[22:58] <srbaker> is this supposed to be that way?
[22:58] <ebirtaid> jerome_:  http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[22:58] <eighty4> s33k3rgr, something like "/dev/hda1 /home ext3 defaults,noatime 0 0"
[22:58] <runemaste644> My gnome-panel will not start after i tried to remove some stupid theme it will not get off of
[22:58] <NemesisD> something about compiz fusion/emerald isn't playing nice with freenx, i am unable to move windows and they have no bar with minimize, maximize, close
[22:58] <ebirtaid> runemaster644:  you are not really providing a lot of information
[22:59] <ebirtaid> have you run gnome-panel from a terminal?
[22:59] <runemaste644> what other info do u need?
[22:59] <runemaste644> yes
[22:59] <runemaste644> i have
[22:59] <ebirtaid> what is the error
[22:59] <eighty4> s33k3rgr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[22:59] <runemaste644> it does nothing
[22:59] <s33k3rgr> thanks
[22:59] <ebirtaid> are you sure the panel is not running and you just removed all the applets?
[22:59] <runemaste644> it segfaulted once cuz it couldnt find the theme
[22:59] <Reng> any of you guys know watch issue i have. the thing is that something i get random green gitch screen when opening up a video to watch. it only happen when i use 64bit but never happen in 32bit. what can be fixs about this?
[22:59] <runemaste644> im sure it is running
[22:59] <s33k3rgr> then i will be able to write to it?
[23:00] <eighty4> yes
[23:00] <runemaste644> *not running
[23:00] <zcode> runemaste644: See if you could edit one of the config files in your ~/.gconf dir
[23:00] <moDumass> hey all, trying to enable restricted drivers i get this error msg "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.9_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[23:00] <moDumass> "
[23:00] <ebirtaid> have you tried restoring a default theme
[23:00] <hurricaneharry> Reng: this has to do with your video codecs.
[23:00] <DJBLaCK> i have loaded ubuntu7.10 on my laptop but it takes ages when i click on install...any reason for that?
[23:00] <Reng> what codec i need to remedy this?
[23:00] <Smegzor> I can't remote to my file server atm.  I get an error from XDMCP saying maximum sessions reached.  How do I raise the limit?  Its either 1 or 0 atm.
[23:01] <warsocket> does anyone know something about adding a blueprint to launcpad?, do i have to program it myself or will someone else if he likes the idea. an if I can program parts of it will someone else help or should i first assemble my own team?
[23:01] <colbert> How do I set my sshd host keys ????
[23:02] <hurricaneharry> Reng: This happens with several of the windows codecs, no known resolution here.
[23:02] <thedonvaughn> !ssh | colbert
[23:02] <ubotu> colbert: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[23:03] <lunahood> ebirtaid, i can´t find a process that looks like a simple backup process described in the message "E: Another Simple Backup daemon already running: exiting" :/
[23:03] <Reng> i guess i have to what for gutsy to release
[23:03] <pasa> Hi all
[23:03] <Reng> hope that have the fix to it
[23:04] <ebirtaid> lunahood:  what command do you issue to run it?
[23:04] <runemaste644> ill try adding a terminal icon to my desktop and logging back in
[23:04] <pasa> Can someone help me with ubuntu please?
[23:04] <thedonvaughn> !ask | pasa
[23:04] <ubotu> pasa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:04] <crafteh> what is the Super button in compiz?
[23:04] <thedonvaughn> crafteh: windows button on your keyboard
[23:04] <niekie> Your *cough*Windows*cough* key :)
[23:05] <crafteh> thanks
[23:05] <r3m0t> release party
[23:05] <r3m0t> * release party is where?
[23:05] <pasa> I installed ubunto yesterday for the first time and I can't make the printer and the dual view happen
[23:05] <r3m0t> sorry, topic was offscreen
[23:05] <AlexJTanner>  /smack
[23:05] <AlexJTanner> it's ubuntu
[23:05] <AlexJTanner> not ubunto
[23:05] <erlingre> I have problems with tvtime and a NTSC tape. I connect the VHS player with a s-video cable. The VHS is capable of both NTSC and PAL. When I select the correct input in tvtime and select NTSC as the television standard I get black and white. PAL-60 gives colors, but also flicker. Any suggestions?
[23:05] <docjay> hey all- I have an asus p5gc-vm mobo (new intel chipset) and I can't get the sounds drivers install, or the onboard NIC (running a NIC card right now that is recognized)  I'm fairly new to ubuntu and I installed the command line interface... can anyone lend me a hand with this one?
[23:05] <pasa> I read a lot but I have too much of windows and get hard time learning the new language
[23:06] <thedonvaughn> pasa: please be more specific, how are you trying to print?  what are you using?  what errors?
[23:06] <thedonvaughn> !print | pasa
[23:06] <ubotu> pasa: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[23:06] <gordonjcp> erlingre: when you're using NTSC, are you using the S-Video input?
[23:06] <hurricaneharry> Reng: You could better find a source for newer codecs...
[23:07] <lunahood> ebirtaid, i think it works now, no idea why ... i have not killed any process or something else ... just waiting and retried it since 2 hours ... but now the backup run as desired and as usual, thank you for your help and time
[23:07] <ebirtaid> k :)
[23:07] <pasa> I have samsung scx 4216f I would like so see it print something :)
[23:07] <dcordes> hi
[23:08] <kompensator_> hey, has gutsy been released already? ;)
[23:08] <ebirtaid> no
[23:08] <erlingre> gordonjcp: yes
[23:08] <dcordes> Does gnome-volume-manager inside of the livecds mount volumes automatically with "noexec"?
[23:08] <gordonjcp> erlingre: hm, weird
[23:08] <gordonjcp> erlingre: does it still do that when you use composite?
[23:08] <erlingre> gordonjcp: I don't have a composite cable
[23:08] <stan> hi to all
[23:09]  * gordonjcp eyes the spare phono cables on the bench
[23:09] <docjay> hey all- I have an asus p5gc-vm mobo (new intel chipset) and I can't get the sounds drivers install, or the onboard NIC (running a NIC card right now that is recognized)  I'm fairly new to ubuntu and I installed the command line interface... can anyone lend me a hand with this one?
[23:09] <gordonjcp> erlingre: pity you can't DCC cables, really
[23:09] <erlingre> gordonjcp: do I have to do anything special when loading the bttv module? I have tried to use -card=0 and tuner=2 (NTSC) when loading the module, but that did not hep either
[23:09] <stan> can anyone tell me when will gutsy be ready to download because the countdown is to 0 days but its not available
[23:10] <ebirtaid> the 18th people
[23:10] <dryrot> go outside, get some fresh air
[23:10] <gordonjcp> it's still 01 days here ;-)
[23:10] <stan> :(
[23:10] <PriceChild> stan, /topic
 go outside, get some fresh air <--- rofl, win :D
[23:10] <gordonjcp> is there going to be an option to turn compiz off from the command line?
[23:10] <erlingre> maybe I just have to give up, PAL tapes works great. I just have one special NTSC tape I want to capture
[23:10] <gordonjcp> erlingre: and the VCR plays back NTSC?
[23:10] <lunahood> ebirtaid, is it suggestive to upgrade to gusty during running the sbackup process ?
[23:10] <riotkittie-> i'm not getting TTYs on Dapper when i am wireless. i can bring them up with getty but then they are really wonky.
[23:10] <ebirtaid> no it shouldnt
[23:11] <ebirtaid> as far as I know
[23:11] <PriceChild> gordonjcp, it won't be enabled for cards that can't do it. If you want to turn it off, you can do system > preferences > appearance
[23:11] <PriceChild> lunahood, no
[23:11] <gordonjcp> erlingre: bear in mind that some PAL/NTSC video players don't really play back terribly good "wrong standard" video
[23:11] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: not much good that, though
[23:11] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: is there a way to do it from the command line?
[23:11] <erlingre> gordonjcp: yes, connected to a TV the VCR works well with the NTSC tape
[23:11] <lunahood> ok, then it will be a "very long night" :)
[23:11] <PriceChild> gordonjcp, why do you need that? yeah, kill compiz, start metacity I guess.
[23:11] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: because compiz is broken
[23:11] <SmoothOp> and evil
[23:11] <PriceChild> gordonjcp, Sorry I can't help you anymore.
[23:12] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: every single machine I've tried it on suffers from the "totally black window" problem
[23:12] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: sometimes right away, sometimes only after maybe 15-20 minutes
[23:12] <jamey-uk> PriceChild: pm me, it's jamey (ags) :)
[23:12] <gordonjcp> it just seems like an extremely stupid thing to do
[23:12] <gordonjcp> who on earth though it was a good idea to have some pre-alpha stuff like that enabled by default?
[23:13] <neopsyche> I dont understand thes einstallation instructions.. can someone help with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306
[23:13] <ebirtaid> heh
[23:13] <colbert> Anyone here knowledgeable with SSH? I need to create host keys
[23:13] <colbert> the ubuntu guide doesn't have this information
[23:13] <stan> gordonjcp do you have any idea who will be the last country to wait for 0 days :D
[23:13] <squizzle> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=305
[23:13] <ebirtaid> gordonjcp:  its called gutsy because of that
[23:13] <squizzle> zomg
[23:13] <squizzle> hardy :o
[23:13] <Lord_Vader> hi
[23:13] <stan> gordonjcp where do you live :P
[23:14] <gordonjcp> stan: uk
[23:14] <hurricaneharry> reng: maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75278 will help..
[23:14] <PriceChild> gordonjcp, nvidia? Well that won't be enabled on them by default ;)
[23:14] <docjay> its gutsy out yet
[23:14] <Lord_Vader> the count down is over
[23:14] <pasa> Thanks ubotu - I'm on it... Do you know how to make dual view with ati X300 - DVI+VGA?
[23:14] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: both NVidia at home and ATI at work
[23:14] <PriceChild> docjay, /topic
[23:14] <PriceChild> jamey-uk, /msg PriceChild foo
[23:14] <eighty4> docjay, Lord_Vader - soon.
[23:14] <Lord_Vader> its gustsy ready?
[23:14] <PriceChild> Lord_Vader, /topic
[23:14] <ebirtaid> chuckle
[23:15] <loompek> morning
[23:15] <Lord_Vader> ok
[23:15] <eighty4> 'ning loompek
[23:15] <neopsyche> can someone help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306
[23:15] <loompek> jeez.. i can't wait for 7.10...
[23:15] <loompek> i'm more excited than i was for y2k
[23:15] <loompek> :D
[23:15] <eighty4> it's only a distro :P
[23:15] <nj786> does anybody know how to install desklets?
[23:16] <neopsyche> can someone help me install a program http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306 I dont know ho wto "compile":"
[23:16] <neopsyche> What are desklets?
[23:17] <neopsyche> nj786: what are desklets?
[23:17] <quittt> I've seen a Gnome mixed with Fluxbox
[23:17] <quittt> how do I make it?
[23:17] <niekie> neopsyche: kind of what Apple calls Widgets and Microsoft calls Gadgets.
[23:17] <neopsyche> ok
[23:17] <fabiim> hi there , can some tell what the equivalent to /etc/conf.d/net in ubuntu?
[23:17] <zcode> desklets = applets for deskbar?
[23:17] <loompek> eighty4 ya... but... i dunno.. i can't wait the new features that are promised
[23:17] <mrp3sky> hello
[23:17] <neopsyche> niekie: can you help me compile / install a prgram?
[23:17] <neopsyche> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306
[23:17] <mrp3sky> i need some help
[23:17] <ebirtaid> desklets are widgets for your desktop
[23:17] <nj786> anyone know how to install desklets?
[23:17] <erUSUL> fabiim: /etc/network/interfaces ??
[23:17] <ebirtaid> that display information
[23:18] <neopsyche> mrp3sky: what do you need help with?
[23:18] <Kaepora> 7.10 soon!
[23:18] <ebirtaid> and gdesklets is in the repos
[23:18] <ebirtaid> along with adesklets
[23:18] <mrp3sky> when i installed java root created an icon on desktop i cant delete
[23:18] <docjay> can anyone help me install sound drivers for an asus p5gc-vm mobo?
[23:18] <loompek> neopsyche what seems to be the problem?
[23:18] <neopsyche> can anyone help me install xnview?
[23:18] <mrp3sky> any advice
[23:18] <nj786> ebirtaid: can you explain more because i am new to this desklets stuff
[23:18] <loompek> neopsyche just wget the file, extract it. chmod it and run it
[23:18] <niekie> neopsyche: Maybe I can.. but loads of text is scrolling on my screen right now.
[23:18] <neopsyche> loompek: This is the thing I want to install .. but the instructions are quite vague.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306
[23:18] <ebirtaid> nj:  open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[23:18] <fabiim> erUSUL, tks :)
[23:18] <hurricaneharry> colbert: ssh-keygen
[23:18] <neopsyche> niekie: no problem
[23:19] <cjae_> what with this?   :-? the LUN appears to be stuck writing LBA=10h, keep retrying in 5ms........ gnomebaker
[23:19] <cjae_> 0%
[23:19] <mrp3sky> seeing i can't login as root how do i delete a file it owns on my desktop
[23:19] <claws_bugs> how hard is craigslist to copy
[23:19] <loompek> neopsyche okay.. that part of the first post... with the 'code' .. you shoul run that.. and that's it
[23:19] <eighty4> mrp3sky, press Alt-F2 and type "gksu nautilus"
[23:19] <pimp^air> hi
[23:19] <Lifeisfunny> with all due respect; I don't have the interest in joining #python
[23:20] <ebirtaid> mrp3sky: use sudo rm
[23:20] <loompek> neopsyche umm. run it in a terminal.. hopefully with full permissions
[23:20] <docjay> how can I tell what drivers are missing in a terminal window?
[23:20] <cjae_> mrp3sky, you can log in as root but ubuntuers don't recommend it
[23:20] <neopsyche> loompek: extracting gives me a tgz file
[23:20] <hurricaneharry> colbert: put the output in a file /etc/sshd/ssh_host_dsa_key or ssh_host_rsa_key accordingly
[23:20] <loompek> neopsyche run a terminal then run "sudo su -" in the window that opens... enter your password and then run wget.. etc...
[23:21] <neopsyche> how do i run it in terminal?
[23:21] <bruenig> logging in as root is pretty pointless, but enabling the root account has its purposes
[23:21] <mrp3sky> ebitraid it says files is a directory and wont delete
[23:21] <PaulEU> hello all!
[23:21] <colbert> hurricaneharry: how do I know if it's dsa or rsa ?
[23:21] <ebirtaid> logging in as root can be helpful also
[23:21] <PaulEU> I have question:
[23:21] <loompek> neopsyche applications > accessories > terminal
[23:21] <PaulEU> who anybody know, how many users downloaded ubuntu-7.04?
[23:21] <PaulEU> after release
[23:21] <ebirtaid> mrp3sky:  sudo rm -rf /path/to/file
[23:21] <neopsyche> loompek:  i already downloaded the file.. do i have to download it again using wget?
[23:21] <loompek> no you don't
[23:22] <bruenig> I have never logged in as root except in tty which I could have just sued as soon as I logged in anyways
[23:22] <neopsyche> loompek: how do i install the already downloaded file / or "run " it
[23:22] <docjay> can anyone help me install sound drivers for an asus p5gc-vm mobo?
[23:22] <colbert> hurricaneharry: ok it's id_rsa.pub that was generated... do I rename that to ssh_host_rsa_key and move it to /etc/sshd/ ??
[23:22] <loompek> but .. it's advisable you have root privileges
[23:22] <PaulEU> its possible to check?
[23:22] <neopsyche> loompek:  i have root
[23:22] <neopsyche> loompek: just not sure how i install
[23:22] <hurricaneharry> mrp3sky: start a console, # sudo rm /home/username/Desktop/file
[23:22] <kolby> can anyone help me troubleshoot why my back two speakers aren't working on my Dolby 7.1 sound system?
[23:22] <loompek> neopsyche okay.. you downloaded the file.. now extract it.. tar zxf Xn....
[23:22] <eighty4> PaulEU, it might be worth emailing someone at Canonical but i doubt they could give you an exact answer.
[23:22] <no0tic> leeet
[23:23] <neopsyche> loompek: i already extracted it by rigth clicking and extract
[23:23] <neopsyche> loompek: using gnome
[23:23] <colbert> kolby: go to #alsa they can certainly help, they did for me with that exact issue
[23:23] <quittt> !fluxbox
[23:23] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[23:23] <quittt> !fluxbox and gnome
[23:23] <srmerlins> Wierd things happen, got gISOmount but cannot find it mounted in vmware, what to do?
[23:23] <neopsyche> loompek: I now have tgz file
[23:23] <bruenig> quittt, seriously
[23:23] <neopsyche> loompek: now what?
[23:23] <kolby> colbert: aight.  thank you
[23:23] <quittt> bruenig, what?
[23:23] <eighty4> PaulEU, if it's for an article or something press-related, PR@canonical.com
[23:23] <bruenig> !be reasonable when you fish at the very least
[23:24] <mrp3sky> thanks hurricaneharry
[23:24] <quittt> bruenig, I've seen some screenshot with Gnome and Fluxbox at the same time
[23:24] <claws_bugs> iceWM is nicer than fluxbox or icebox
[23:24] <vvd> o days left? what does that mean
[23:24] <claws_bugs> minimalist and ncie
[23:24] <claws_bugs> nice
[23:24] <PaulEU> eighty4: no, its not for press, it was question private :)
[23:24] <bruenig> quittt, you think there is a factoid called fluxboxspaceandspacegnome
[23:24] <neopsyche> loompek: I have extracted it so what do i do now?
[23:24] <LjL> vvd: ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[23:24] <ebirtaid> quittt: use google there are numerous howtos
[23:24] <eighty4> vvd, it'll be out when it's ready. sometime in the next 24 hours :)
[23:24] <claws_bugs> why is the release so BIG?
[23:24] <neopsyche> loompek: how do i zxf Xn in gnome?
[23:24] <docjay> can anyone tell me the command I can use in SSH to tell what devices don't have drivers?
[23:24] <eighty4> claws_bugs, cause Ubuntu is awesome. fin.
[23:25] <bruenig> claws_bugs, the illusive hype that is inconsequential discrete releases
[23:25] <bruenig> good marketing tool, not nearly as exciting as being constantly up to date
[23:25] <stan> !gutsy exact release hour :P
[23:25] <hurricaneharry> colbert: you probably want a dsa key, ssh-keygen -t dsa
[23:25] <cjae_> anyone catch that
[23:25] <meeper> alright, I'm a bit desperate. I've tried dell, nvidia, envy, googling ... can't get the nvidia drivers installed. Any ideas?
[23:26] <bruenig> meeper, nvidia.com
[23:26] <meeper> bruenig: I tried that, won't let me compile the driver
[23:26] <markvandenborre> docjay, could you be more specific?
[23:26] <bruenig> meeper, you need to pay attention to what it says
[23:26] <eighty4> meeper, you might want to try the Envy project: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[23:26] <colbert> hurricaneharry: says it already exists, asking to overwrite (I have a key already in .ssh that I use to ssh into my website)
[23:26] <ebirtaid> said he tried it
[23:26] <bruenig> meeper, you probably need c headers and some other stuff
[23:26] <ebirtaid> already ;p
[23:26] <kditty> i just hooked a windows hard drive into a case to make an external hard drive and now i need to format it. the disk says read only when i try to delete files, even when i logged in as root. any help? i also need to keep this disk in windows format so i can load divx movies onto it to play through my dvd player
[23:26] <[X]treme> www.nano-host.com <---- RELIABLE WEB HOSTING
[23:26] <bruenig> !envy | eighty4 meeper
[23:27] <ubotu> eighty4 meeper: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[23:27] <meeper> eighty4: I tried to run envy, I get a 'ImportError: No module named instun' ... not sure what that means?
[23:27] <hurricaneharry> colbert: do !not! overwrite....
[23:27] <ebirtaid> what if we needed reliabe web hosting :(
[23:27] <meeper> bruenig: installed all the c headers from build-essential
[23:27] <colbert> hurricaneharry: ok I said no and it's just back to prompt
[23:28] <bruenig> meeper, not sure exactly all that you need, ubuntu strips things that every other distribution has by default like you know compilers and headers and stuff so I am not familiar with fetching these basics, but there is bound to be something out there explaining what gaps need to be filled
[23:28] <neopsyche> loompek: it says gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[23:28] <neopsyche> tar: Child returned status 1
[23:28] <neopsyche> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[23:28] <markvandenborre> docjay, you might want to look at lsmod, lspci, dmesg and related commands
[23:28] <claws_bugs> reliable web hosting
[23:28] <claws_bugs> lol
[23:28] <hurricaneharry> colbert: just save it somewhere else and after that copy it to /etc/ssh/
[23:28] <hurricaneharry> colbert: make a backup of your current host-keys !!
[23:29] <neopsyche> can anyone help me install a program?
[23:29] <colbert> hurricaneharry: ok so backup my current host-keys, then run cmd again and overwrite, then move these new keys to /etc/ssh ?
[23:29] <LjL> neopsyche: what program?
[23:29] <markvandenborre> neofax, which one?
[23:29] <neopsyche> LjL: xnview
[23:29] <markvandenborre> sorry, meant neopsyche
[23:29] <scooby2> gutsy is not even close to being ready for release
[23:29] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: im having some problems trying to install xnview
[23:30] <markvandenborre> let me google it, because I can't seem to find it in the repos
[23:30] <ebirtaid> xnview is in the repos isnt it?
[23:30] <LjL> neopsyche: what are you typing?
[23:30] <LjL> ebirtaid: no
[23:30] <lamego> scooby2, do you have a question ?
[23:30] <ebirtaid> whirred
[23:30] <hurricaneharry> colbert: just generate the keys in another place will be easyer... and then copy them to /etc/ssh, you need to backup the keys in /etc/ssh/...
[23:30] <neopsyche> LjL: What i am typing .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306
[23:30] <scooby2> yeah, why did bacula blow away my config files when i upgraded from feisty to gutsy?
[23:31] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, what functionality do you want?
[23:31] <markvandenborre> would a functional alternative do for you?
[23:31] <neopsyche> I want to be able to install the program .. but it is not in .deb format .. it is in tar.gz then when i unpack that extract.. it is tgz
[23:32] <lamego> scooby2, because upgrades are complex processes, you can easly reset your config files, do you know how to do it, also this is about support questions, not about bug reports, use launchpad for that
[23:32] <colbert> hurricaneharry: ok I copied my /etc/ssh/ keys to desktop for now... but when I run ssh-keygen it doesn't give an option where to generate them, it defaults to ~/.ssh
[23:32] <ebirtaid> tgz is another archive file
[23:32] <LjL> neopsyche: the link you're trying to download from doesn't exist anymore.
[23:32] <ebirtaid> extract that one also
[23:32] <ebirtaid> HAHA
[23:32] <meeper> alright here we go again
[23:32] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, so another program that will do the same thing is not ok for your use?
[23:32] <luca> hi everyone
[23:32] <scooby2> lamego: i'd give loads of dollars to get my old config files and my old /var/spool/bacula directory back
[23:32] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: no i have looked into alternatives .. there is not alternative except for this one.. compaired to irfanview.. which is not available for ubuntu
[23:32] <LjL> neopsyche: uh, actually, it does, but for some reason the site refuses to let wget access it. use a browser.
[23:33] <luca> may I ask how to disable the new brilliant featuree of having your home as your desktop also?
[23:33] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, is it any use for me to point you at possible alternatives?
[23:33] <neopsyche> LjL: I have already downloaded the program
[23:33] <meeper> alright, well something bad just happened. it's telling me to reinstall X haha
[23:33] <LjL> neopsyche: how big is the file you downloaded? (ls -l filename)
[23:33] <lamego> scooby2, people which gives loads of dollars for some data, performs backups
[23:34] <lamego> specially, before an upgrade
[23:34] <scooby2> i do perform backups
[23:34] <scooby2> asshats overwrite config files
[23:34] <lamego> scooby2, so just restore the data from your backups, if you are unable to use it, create a bug report at launchpad.net
[23:34] <eighty4>  i suppose there's a certain irony in not having a backup of your backup software...
[23:35] <neopsyche> I need a program with these features that is as easy to use as irfan view .. Rotation / RGB colour formatting/ save gifs / use 160 file formats / photoshop effects / resize / resample (multiple options for engine) and a few more features which you can look at on the IRfanview homepage
[23:35] <scooby2> i have a backup of my backup software
[23:35] <scooby2> its just going to take me hours to rewrite the configs to get them back
[23:35] <moDumass> hey all, i cant select nvidia restricted drivers from the restricted drivers manager, it errors out saying
[23:35] <moDumass> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.9_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[23:35] <scooby2> cause some asshat packagerr doesnt have a brain
[23:35] <moDumass> any ideas what that means?
[23:35] <lamego> scooby2, and what help do you expect get from us on such task ?
[23:35] <LM1> so... is pidgin 2.2.1 gonna make it into gutsy?
[23:35] <neopsyche> LjL: 1254351 bytes
[23:35] <lamego> besides your complains which have no use for this channel ?
[23:35] <scooby2> lamego: so how do i downgrade and get my configs back like you said
[23:35] <LM1> is there a list of the packages in gutsy currently?
[23:35] <Dr_willis> !info pidgin gutsy
[23:35] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[23:36] <pasa> I need a stupid proof guide for printer install :)
[23:36] <neopsyche> LjL: So how do i install it?
[23:36] <Dr_willis> LM1,  looks lik eit.
[23:36] <naer_dinsul> I've set up an apt-cacher server for my local intranet, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to want to upgrade to the gutsy rc through it.  Am I missing something?
[23:36] <LjL> neopsyche: troppo piccolo, il download non è completo. sono 2638621 byte.
[23:36] <lamego> scooby2, install feisty, and restore your config files from the backups that you have told us, you have
[23:36] <ebirtaid> neopsyche:  you have to unpackge the tgz file
[23:36] <neopsyche> ebirtaid: download not complete?
[23:36] <neopsyche> ebirtaid: i have unpacked it
[23:36] <ebirtaid> you said you had the file?
[23:36] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, then look at the installation instructions
[23:36] <neopsyche> ebirtaid: yes
[23:36] <neopsyche> where?
[23:37] <ebirtaid> you said a .tgz came out of the .tar.gz right?
[23:37] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: what installation instructions?
[23:37] <hurricaneharry> colbert: I need to recheck my own info, maybe somebody else can help you further.
[23:37] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: yes
[23:37] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, inside the tar archive
[23:37] <neopsyche> yes ebirtaid
[23:37] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: yes
[23:37] <ebirtaid> you have to unpackage the .tgz file
[23:37] <neopsyche> EBIRTAID: HOW?
[23:37] <lamego> scooby2, if your problem is with bacula, it maybe a problem specific to the bacula app upgrade, you could have tested it during development, it would be a bit more helpful
[23:37] <markvandenborre> click it in nautilus
[23:37] <ebirtaid> damn ok?
[23:37] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: OK
[23:37] <markvandenborre> or tar zxvf filename.tgz
[23:37] <pasa> I dont get the instruction change hear and there I dont understand what I'm doing and I'm doing something wrong
[23:37] <ebirtaid> I mean you unpackages the first one
[23:38] <ebirtaid> s=d
[23:38] <markvandenborre> but I'm telling you
[23:38] <scooby2> lamego: the package was the exact same version just minor revision difference as feisty
[23:38] <scooby2> bacula moved past this version over a year ago
[23:38] <markvandenborre> if you don't know how to unpack a tgz, you _should not_ be installing unpackaged software!
[23:38] <ebirtaid> lol agreed mark
[23:38] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: ok now i see files
[23:38] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: now what do i do with those?
[23:38] <kditty> i need to format a windows external hard drive and keep ntfs file structure, gparted has it locked and i can not reformat with that, any help?
[23:39] <ebirtaid> run ./configure
[23:39] <ebirtaid> then make
[23:39] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, you should really really try to find ubuntu packaged software first that fits your needs, but hey
[23:39] <ebirtaid> then sudo make install
[23:39] <neopsyche> kditty: you can format it using a windows XP disk.
[23:39] <ebirtaid> probably
[23:39] <markvandenborre> ...which is probably what some kind of readme.txt file will be saying
[23:39] <ebirtaid> indeed
[23:39] <ebirtaid> this is all futile
[23:39] <kditty> neo. i dont have windows xp disks
[23:39] <loompek> bah
[23:39] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: what ubuntu software would be a clone of IRfanview?
[23:39] <loompek> vista powered :D
[23:40] <kbrooks> ok, i need to talk to you all.
[23:40] <kditty> neopsyche:  i dont have windows xp disks
[23:40] <neopsyche> TONS OF PEOPLE ON THE WEB SEEM TO BE LOOKING FOR THIS FILE IN .deb
[23:40] <ebirtaid> I mean I think gimp can do all the things you want neopsycho
[23:40] <kbrooks> and right now.
[23:40] <kbrooks> THIS is very, very important.
[23:40] <ebirtaid> kbrooks no need for prefacing
[23:40] <carlhako> Hey can anyone tell me when i upgrade to gutsy will it alto upgrade /opt/ltsp environment to gutsy also? or will i need to rebuild it?
[23:40]  * eighty4 braces himself for kbrooks 
[23:40] <neopsyche> ebirtaid: its neopsych-e
[23:40] <ebirtaid> I mistyped
[23:40] <carlhako> alto/also
[23:41] <neopsyche> kditty: I want a program for quick image manipulation for creating simple graphics quickly.
[23:41] <neopsyche> kditty: Gimp is higher grade.
[23:41] <awalton__> neopsyche: imagemagick?
[23:42] <ebirtaid> search the repos for image manipulation
[23:42] <awalton__> depends on whether or not you have love for the console.
[23:42] <neopsyche> awalton__: havent seen it .. but does it have a similar features / interface to irfanview?
[23:42] <awalton__> not at all.
[23:42] <alien18> hey, im new to linux, im using ubuntu feisty and i want to install beryl, but the wiki guide isnt working, where else can i get a guide please?
[23:42] <ebirtaid> lol
[23:42] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, maybe something like fspot could help you?
[23:42] <joshritger> has anyone used virtualbox lately?
[23:42] <ebirtaid> fspot might not have enough of the features
[23:42] <ebirtaid> it may work though
[23:42] <cvance> Is there a way to disable the wallpaper when using x11vnc for reverse vnc?
[23:42] <hurricaneharry> colbert: md ~/temp; ssh-keygen -t dsa ; use ~/temp/id_dsa as your output...
[23:42] <markvandenborre> it's more to the photo management side, but it may work for you
[23:42] <neopsyche> I installed 2 programs which were both terrible compaired to irfanview.. one was gview (if i remember correctly) and another Xpaint
[23:42] <kitche> alien18: sudo apt-get install beryl then in a terminal type beryl-manager
[23:42] <cvance> like a command line switch or something?
[23:42] <picard_pwns_kirk> joshritger: I used it last week
[23:42] <kbrooks> ready ... set ... go. ok, so the place which you download your packages from - there's technically only "one". even if it was spread around multiple computers, um, this is it:
[23:43] <markvandenborre> is it mostly photos?
[23:43] <markvandenborre> or more like images?
[23:43] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: I did however install KolourPaint which is quite good.. but no ability to save gif files
[23:43] <joshritger> picard_pwns_kirk: did you have any trouble installing it?
[23:43] <kbrooks> the ubuntu repoistories are not secure.
[23:43] <picard_pwns_kirk> joshritger: no
[23:43] <florin21> hy guys
[23:43] <florin21> :)
[23:43] <hurricaneharry> colbert: then you will find the 2 keys in ~/temp, those should be copied to /etc/ssh under the right names.
[23:43] <kbrooks> there,. done. i've said it.
[23:43] <markvandenborre> for photo's you might like fspot, neopsyche
[23:43] <eighty4> kbrooks, so?
[23:43] <awalton__> neopsyche: you shouldn't use gifs anymore, it's way outdated, switch to PNG
[23:43] <florin21> any one have a normal Irc
[23:43] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: I dont need it for photos. Thanks.
[23:43] <awalton__> if you want animated though.. yeah gifs still your best bet, saldy.
[23:43] <gordonjcp> florin21: a normal IRC what?
[23:43] <neopsyche> Could someone please help me install xnview?
[23:44] <loompek> neopsyche, still no luck?
[23:44] <Dr_willis> !info xnview
[23:44] <neopsyche> loompek: I need to know what to do with the files
[23:44] <ubotu> Package xnview does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[23:44] <joshritger> picard_pwns_kirk: what source did u use to install, I am following the instructions on their website and it wont let me add their key for their repositories
[23:44] <kbrooks> eighty4, so... trojan horses can happen by way of some basic intelligence and something called dns poisoning.
[23:44] <loompek> neopsyche, how far did you come?
[23:44] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, it's not because I don't want to help you, it's because I want to help you that I'm looking for alternatives
[23:44] <alien18> ok, installed, when i type beryl-manager it says: Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled
[23:44] <eighty4> ...right. and the alternative is?
[23:44] <markvandenborre> I'm not rendering you any service by helping you install this from source
[23:44] <picard_pwns_kirk> joshritger: just download the .deb
[23:45] <neopsyche> Im surprised that this does not exist in a .deb file .. its such a cool program.
[23:45] <neopsyche> http://www.xnview.com/
[23:45] <joshritger> picard_pwns_kirk: ok I will try that
[23:45] <joshritger> thanks
[23:45] <picard_pwns_kirk> np
[23:45] <neopsyche> I have tried to download the .deb.. they are all outdated or dont work. scarce.
[23:45] <neopsyche> Tried google .. not much .. out of date and / or not downloading properly
[23:45] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, it's not free software
[23:45] <neopsyche> how so?
[23:45] <markvandenborre> that might be the reason
[23:46] <markvandenborre> free as in beer =/= free as in speech
[23:46] <Dr_willis> I perfer Free as in Love. :)
[23:46] <neopsyche> Statement from the xnview website: XnView is a free software to view, organise, convert graphics files.
[23:46] <alien18> i get this error, Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled, how do i fix please?
[23:46] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  it depends on their exact licensing. They may not be following the GPL.
[23:46] <kitche> alien18: enable the universe repo
[23:46] <alien18> how?
[23:46] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  grab the source and compile it perhaps.
[23:46] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, you might want to try krita
[23:47] <kitche> alien18: in synaptic go to the repo option and enable it
[23:47] <kbrooks> DNS poisoning: say i provide software that actually does something, but which has a hidden DNS server and configurator. this hidden DNS server,
[23:47] <kbrooks> er
[23:47] <Gin> any one here has utorrent running on Ubuntu?
[23:47] <kbrooks> not done
[23:47] <Dr_willis> neopsyche,  thers also Picassa for Linux. :) (yes it uses wine so its a bit of a cheat but it works)
[23:47] <markvandenborre> I'm fairly sure that is something that should appeal to you
[23:47] <Dr_willis> Gin,  ive ran it with wine befor.
[23:47] <Gin> Dr_willis, how was it?
[23:48] <neopsyche> Im not interested really in whether it is free beer or not.. im more interested if it will run.  Im sorry to say it .. because I really like ubuntu .. but my friends are right when they say .. although windows crashes a lot more.. it is easier to use due to amount of easily accessible programs for the platform.
[23:48] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, http://www.koffice.org/krita/screenshots.php
[23:48] <agarwood> Good evening, I just bought a USB key "usb 2.0 mobile disk" from "twinmos" ubuntu but does not recognize the connection ... The manual tells me that I must raise the key ... And finally, a user guide tells me that I need minimum "Linux kernel 2.4" ... Can you explain how to mount my key, thank you.
[23:48] <Dr_willis> Gin,  it was utorrent. :) what more do ya want.. it worked.. but i normally use Ktorrent.
[23:48] <Dr_willis> agarwood,  you are using the 2.6 kernel now. :)
[23:48] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, you are making your first steps into new territory, you should really give it some time
[23:48] <Gin> Dr_willis, did it run as good as on windows?
[23:48] <Dr_willis> agarwood,  as for 'raise' not sure what ya mean there.
[23:48] <markvandenborre> it's quite a different paradigm
[23:49] <neopsyche> can someone please help me compile/install xnview?
[23:49] <Dr_willis> Gin,  I dont use torrents under windows.
[23:49] <Dr_willis> Gin,  it ran. :)
[23:49] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, did you have a look at krita?
[23:49] <Dr_willis> Gin,  try it and see.
[23:49] <bobafet> Is gusy out yet?
[23:49] <neopsyche> can krita save gif files?
[23:49] <agarwood> dr_willis, i use ubuntu 7.04
[23:49] <markvandenborre> you can always try to find out the installation instructions
[23:49] <eighty4> bobafet, /topic (and it's out when it's ready, there's no set time)
[23:49] <joefis> all the Rc isos are gone
[23:49] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, I don't use it, but my guess is that it can
[23:50] <MoNsTeR> how do i veiw my winblows harddrive
[23:50] <joefis> checking the ftp mirrors frantically
[23:50] <AdenKarter_23343> pls i need help www.superhelp-erkan.de.ms
[23:50] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, as can the gimp, but that one clearly was too powerful/complex for your needs, if I understood you well?
[23:50] <Dr_willis> agarwood,  7.10 is due out tomorrow. :)  as for mounting it . you 'should' be able to just plug it in and it will automount/ask/show an icon on the desktop. If not - read up on manually mounting things. Check 'dmesg' output to see where its being detected as.
[23:50] <Dr_willis> !windows
[23:50] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[23:51] <davidstrauss> How can I force new directories in a certain directory to have group write permissions?
[23:51] <Dr_willis> :) doh wrong factoid.
[23:52] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: gimp is very good for my needs if i am using it for advanced editing of photos for magazine cover etc.. however .. that takes time to learn advanced techniques.. whereas a simple paint program will be fine for my needs right now.. even paintshop pro on windows .. although not quite as powerful as gimp perhaps .. I find to be more intuitive than the gimp .. with similar results.
[23:52] <hhp2k> Hey guys, what's the terminal command to install ssh?
[23:52] <markvandenborre> neopsyche, I'm trying to help you where I can
[23:52] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: Thanks I appreciate it.
[23:52] <riotkittie> hhp2k: ssh server?
[23:53] <hhp2k> riotkittie: sudo apt-get install ssh-server?
[23:53] <riotkittie> hhp2k: sudo apt-get install openssh-server i believe
[23:53] <nblracer> Hello, just had afew questions about the new Ununtu 7.1
[23:53] <hhp2k> Nice. Thanks
[23:53] <lonran> when is going to be able to download gutsy?  the counter at ubuntu.com says 00 days already
[23:53] <riotkittie> yw
[23:53] <neopsyche> I need to learn how to make an installation from a tar.gz
[23:53] <eighty4> lonran, soon.
[23:53] <hurricaneharry> davidstrauss: look at a comination of SGID bit (set group id) and probably the UMASK for the specific user.
[23:53] <nblracer> since the 3D desktop, what are the min requirments, and recommend
[23:53] <neopsyche> is it very difficult?
[23:53] <riotkittie> nobody is ever going to be able to download gutsy. ever. and if i never see that question asked again, it will be too soon
[23:53] <mdolan> is Tracker search based on Beagle?
[23:54] <Avariel> i have a couple .avi .mp3 data stored on an external harddrive under ntfs...is there any way i can get ubuntu to read the volume ?
[23:54] <davidstrauss> hurricaneharry: How do you set the UMASK?
[23:54] <agarwood> thank you dr_willis
[23:54] <nblracer> and is this update going to be pushed out?
[23:54] <gumby600m> Is there a way of downloading stable gusty (release version) today?  I dont want to fight slogs of other users downloading it tomorrow...
[23:54] <lonran> eighty4, soon in hours? today?
[23:54] <riotkittie> lonran: it will be available when it is available.  its still the 17th in some parts of the world.
[23:54] <eighty4> lonran, when it's ready.
[23:54] <mdolan> gumby600m, I got it off of a LiveDVD mirror
[23:54] <riotkittie> gumby600m: no.
[23:54] <lonran> riotkittie, thats true, its 18 here already :)
[23:54] <eighty4> gumby600m, it'll be out when it's out. there's not a set release time
[23:54] <gumby600m> mdolan: it's not a beta or release candidate, it's the actul 7.10?
[23:55] <bobafet> wget http://openssh.linux-mirror.org/portable/openssh-4.5p1.tar.gz; gzip openssh-4.5p1.tar.gz | tar -xvf -; cd openssh; ./configure; make; make install
[23:55] <mdolan> gumby600m, action 7.109
[23:55] <riotkittie> gumby600m: it's not the actual 7.10.
[23:55] <mdolan> minus the nine
[23:55] <mdolan> :)
[23:55] <riotkittie> mdolan: there's no way you have a stable, final release of 7.10.
[23:55] <mdolan> gumby600m, it's the final 7.10
[23:55] <Xion> how would i update my java on ubuntu????
[23:55] <mdolan> riotkittie, want to bet?
[23:55] <gumby600m> I just wish there was a way of "pre-downloading" it like you can pre-download games in Steam...
[23:55] <gumby600m> cause their servers are going to get nailed tomorrow
[23:55] <Xion> any one please
[23:55] <PriceChild> mdolan, please stop.
[23:55] <mdolan> guys, I'm seriously not kidding
[23:55] <minus> Err http://se.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1
[23:55] <minus>   404 Not Found [IP: 130.239.18.137 80]
[23:55] <riotkittie> i dont need to bet. i know.
[23:56] <minus> Why do I get that?
[23:56] <riotkittie> <drops it>
[23:56] <kitche> gumby600m: not really that's what torrents are for :)
[23:56] <hurricaneharry> davidstrauss: umask -p xxxx ( 7 complement of the right you want )
[23:56] <minus> or /why is the servers down
[23:56] <PriceChild> mdolan, Please do not give us random links which are most likely not the real erlease. It confuses users and could break mirrors.
[23:56] <Dr_willis> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.  - seems i am allready updated. :)
[23:56] <gumby600m> kitche: my internet comes through the university and torrents are painfully slow, no matter what I try (i.e. 1 kbyte/sec :(
[23:56] <psyferre_> hey, I should be able to run apt-get install build-essentials , right?
[23:56] <bottiger> what protects /etc/sudoers from being edited by anything else than visudo ?
[23:56] <mdolan> PriceChild, sorry... it is available though - I just installed it an hour ago...
[23:56] <psyferre_> that's the right command?
[23:56] <riotkittie> build-essential. drop the s, psyferre_
[23:56] <davidstrauss> hurricaneharry: thank you
[23:56] <Dr_willis> bottiger,  nothing that i know of.  - i never use  visudo
[23:56] <kitche> gumby600m: yeah throttling is starting to become a common place even for ISPs
[23:56] <Avariel> anybody know how i can read data from an ntfs external hard drive ?
[23:56] <PriceChild> !offtopic | mdolan
[23:56] <ubotu> mdolan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:57] <eighty4> psyferre, it's "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[23:57]  * psyferre_ slaps his forehead
[23:57] <bottiger> Dr_willis: then why does it say so :S
[23:57] <psyferre_> got it :)
[23:57] <psyferre_> thanks!!
[23:57] <PriceChild> bottiger, nothing really...
[23:57] <Dr_willis> bottiger,  because its a good idea.
[23:57] <neopsyche> markvandenborre: Thank you for your help (and to all the other helpers :-) ) I have decided that Krita could very well suit my needs.. also I will need to remove all .gif images (not an open  source format) from my web template and use .png instead.  It doesnt look like krita supports .gif at least not in 1.6
[23:57] <Dr_willis> bottiger,  i am on a 1 user system. :) so it dosent matter much here.
[23:57] <SteamMachine> Hi all.
[23:57] <SteamMachine> I'm attempting to upload images from a digital camera - Kodak EasyShare C530
[23:57] <Xion> is there any good sites that can guide me through certain tasks for ubuntu
[23:57] <mdolan> PriceChild, on topic - what is the Tracker Search based on? Beagle?
[23:57] <PriceChild> Xion, help.ubuntu.com
[23:57] <cre8torx> hello
[23:58] <SirBob1701> ok so i just upgraded two computers to gutsy and the upgrade fraged the tty's on both of them.  how can i get them back?
[23:58] <PriceChild> mdolan, tracker
[23:58] <eighty4> neopsyche, be careful - some browsers don't have full PNG support
[23:58] <Xion> thnx orince
[23:58] <mdolan> hmm... never heard of it until now
[23:58] <mdolan> cool
[23:58] <Xion> ***prince
[23:58] <bottiger> Dr_willis: And I don't plan to edit my /etc/sudoer, I just found the message really strange
[23:58] <HoboBen> Hallo. Ubuntu 7.10 with compiz turned off: is this equal to, slower or faster than 7.04?
[23:58] <bottiger> HoboBen: same
[23:58] <eighty4> HoboBen, as it's not out yet no-one knows ;-)
[23:59] <neopsyche> eighty4: thank you I know that .. namely Internet Explorer 6- versions.. May the IE6 be phazed out as soon as possible.
[23:59] <Fryguy--> hrmm.. I turned on my computer today and my background disappeared, I now have a solid white background and going to appearance preferences to change it doesn't do anything.  How can I change my desktop background back to something more useful
[23:59] <HoboBen> bottiger, eighty4 :) hehe, I'm impatient! But I read there were some optimisations, but there may also be feature bloat!
[23:59] <neopsyche> eighty4: Do you think it should be a major concern though.. what other browsers not support it?
[23:59] <aguitel> anyone use chipset REALTEK ?
[23:59] <WJIRC-Newbie> lots of people use realtek
[23:59] <bottiger> HoboBen: I mean - a new version of ubuntu isn't everything. It's basicly just updates your programs
[23:59] <Dr_willis> aguitel,  realtek makes a LOT of different chipsets.
[23:59] <feierfox> hey ho