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| ubotu | New bug: #153762 in launchpad "python-medusa missing from developer dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153762 | 00:36 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #153763 in launchpad "we should never do bug redirects to disabled products" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153763 | 00:41 |
| rob | hello, I was wondering if it is possible to take over the username of an inactive user? | 00:43 |
| rob | guess it's a bit of a bad time :( | 01:02 |
| mpt | rob, you can make a request for it | 01:05 |
| mpt | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | 01:05 |
| kiko-zzz | rob, which user. | 01:57 |
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| rob | kiko-zzz, either rob or robert | 02:45 |
| kiko-zzz | rob, what's your user? | 02:48 |
| kiko-zzz | rob, both of them have validated email addresses, though | 02:49 |
| kiko-zzz | rob, you should contact them to see if they are willing to give up their names for you. if so, let me know. | 02:49 |
| kiko-zzz | zzz now for real | 02:49 |
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| Rotund | Could I get some basic info about the tech behind launchpad? | 04:15 |
| Rotund | Anyone here with knowledge of what is behind the scenes? | 04:17 |
| poolie_ | Rotund, what kind of thing in particular | 04:27 |
| Rotund | it's twisted under the hood, right? | 04:28 |
| Rotund | Including the web interface? | 04:28 |
| Rotund | What templating engine is used? | 04:28 |
| poolie_ | well, it's zope | 04:29 |
| Rotund | The web interface or the whole thing/ | 04:29 |
| spiv | https://help.launchpad.net/FAQ#head-34295746b9c12bbe42eee4a9bd5e2656306fd796 mentions some of the libraries its built on. | 04:30 |
| Rotund | Interesting. So, what parts of Twisted? | 04:31 |
| spiv | Bits and pieces. The SFTP/bzr+ssh server at bazaar.launchpad.net, the "librarian" web server, an internal XML-RPC server, and some other internal systems. | 04:34 |
| Rotund | Okay, what about the web interface? is that Zope or Nevow or something else? | 04:36 |
| spiv | It's Zope 3. (You can see that it's Zope by looking at the Server and X-Powered-By headers in the HTTP responses) | 04:38 |
| Rotund | ahhh. I just looked at the HTML | 04:40 |
| * spiv -> lunch | 04:40 | |
| Rotund | excellent. just wanted a bird's eye view. thanks | 04:40 |
| imbrandon | someone mind confirming and looking at bug #153798 | 05:04 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 153798 in launchpad "canonical partner repo packages showing as "in ubuntu"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153798 | 05:04 |
| ubotu | New bug: #153798 in launchpad "canonical partner repo packages showing as "in ubuntu"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153798 | 05:05 |
| carlos | morning | 07:58 |
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| bostik | hi all | 12:20 |
| bostik | on launchpad there is no trace of our mirror | 12:21 |
| bostik | it's uptodate since yesterday | 12:22 |
| bostik | i'm talking of ubuntu mirror | 12:22 |
| salgado | hi bostik | 12:23 |
| salgado | bostik, what is your mirror's name? | 12:23 |
| bostik | ubuntu.fastbull.org from italy | 12:24 |
| salgado | bostik, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ubuntu.fastbull.org-release | 12:26 |
| salgado | bostik, looks like some files were missing when it was last checked (2h ago) | 12:27 |
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| bostik | salgado, last update 13.01 CET | 12:32 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #153884 in rosetta "Translation import queue needs better validation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153884 | 13:50 |
| ubotu | New bug: #153885 in soyuz "Refactor source and binary publishing presentation templates in a single macro" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153885 | 13:50 |
| ubotu | New bug: #153891 in launchpad-bazaar "branch listings can be sorted by invisible quantities" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153891 | 14:05 |
| ubotu | New bug: #153894 in launchpad-bazaar "two styles of sorting on one page branch listings probably confusing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153894 | 14:17 |
| warsocket | Hey, if i register a project as blueprint, must i program it all by myself is it possible that someone jumps in and helps | 14:22 |
| warsocket | cause I think i have a good idea but im not sure i can complete it all by myself | 14:23 |
| ubotu | New bug: #153901 in launchpad "OOPS registering attendance in a sprint with year before 1900" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153901 | 14:25 |
| mrevell | hi warsocket | 14:30 |
| mrevell | warsocket: If you register a blueprint in Launchpad, any other Launchpad user can become involved. You can even assign people to work on the blueprint. | 14:31 |
| lamont | cprov: is there any way from the LP UI (looking at build records, especially failed records) to say "please eliminate the records for any superseded source"? | 14:52 |
| cprov | lamont: no, they are eliminated only when they reach dispatcher (i.e, on-the-fly, not by batches) and since gutsy was released they won't be considered by dispatched and will remain in pending state (hint: it's a problem) | 14:54 |
| lamont | cprov: and manually deleting them will just be undone when the queue-builder fix hits production, eh? | 14:55 |
| lamont | my question wasn't really hppa/gutsy related... | 14:55 |
| lamont | when I pull up the list of failed-to-build packages, I don't really care about earlier versions: I only want to see things where the current version is FTBFS | 14:56 |
| cprov | lamont: no, failed build from old versions will remain as 'history', we do not provide a proper FTBFS list yet | 14:57 |
| lamont | cprov: right. they need to remain as history. I just want the option to filter records for superseded source. | 14:57 |
| lamont | so I'll file a wishlist bug | 14:57 |
| cprov | lamont: yup. | 14:59 |
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| lamont | new question. if the dispatcher strips any needs-build records and doesn't dispatch them for gutsy now, then I think I have another wishlist bug that says "please mark such records as failed, reason="stable release, no way (or some such)", rather than leaving the queue polluted with records that'll never go anywhere | 15:00 |
| SteveA | Welcome to this week's Lauchpad development meeting! | 15:01 |
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| SteveA | For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating and reporting on Launchpad development. | 15:01 |
| lamont | which gets back to the base question of "will all those gutsy/hppa build records go away, or hang out" (if so, please make 'em all priority -1 in sql. kthxbye.) | 15:01 |
| SteveA | Who is here today? | 15:01 |
| gmb | me | 15:01 |
| mrevell | me | 15:01 |
| danilos | me | 15:01 |
| carlos | me | 15:01 |
| lamont | oops. meeting. | 15:01 |
| mpt | me | 15:01 |
| intellectronica | me | 15:01 |
| bac_afk | me | 15:01 |
| sinzui | me | 15:01 |
| allenap | me | 15:01 |
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| EdwinGrubbs | me | 15:01 |
| Schnitz | hi | 15:01 |
| jtv | me | 15:01 |
| barry | me | 15:01 |
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| mwhudson | me | 15:01 |
| BjornT | me | 15:01 |
| bigjools | me, but I am ill so may not stay | 15:01 |
| mthaddon | me | 15:02 |
| salgado | me | 15:02 |
| matsubara | meme | 15:02 |
| Rinchen | me | 15:02 |
| matsubara | me | 15:02 |
| ddaa | me | 15:02 |
| flacoste | me | 15:02 |
| jamesh | me | 15:02 |
| schwuk | me | 15:02 |
| leonardr | me | 15:02 |
| statik | me | 15:02 |
| jsk | me | 15:02 |
| jsk | me (but may experience intermittent disconnection) | 15:03 |
| evarlast | me? | 15:03 |
| kiko | me | 15:03 |
| SteveA | apologies (according to the meeting page) | 15:04 |
| SteveA | == Apologies == | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * adeuring | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * bac | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * jamesh | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * kiko | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * ddaa | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * stub | 15:04 |
| SteveA | 15:04 | |
| SteveA | obviously some of these are incorrect | 15:04 |
| ddaa | that was lastweek | 15:04 |
| kiko | I'm not apologizing | 15:04 |
| kiko | that was last week | 15:04 |
| mpt | ergh | 15:04 |
| SteveA | == Agenda == | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * Roll call | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * Agenda | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * Next meeting | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * Actions from last meeting | 15:04 |
| mpt | Did I forget to update it? | 15:04 |
| Schnitz | is it just a question of time when i can upload packages to my ppa using hardy as distro? | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * Oops report (Matsubara) | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * Critical Bugs (Rinchen) | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * Bug tags | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * Operations report (mthaddon) | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * DBA report (stub) | 15:04 |
| SteveA | * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | 15:05 |
| SteveA | * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) | 15:05 |
| SteveA | ---- | 15:05 |
| SteveA | * starred reviews - barry | 15:05 |
| SteveA | * postgres shared memory - flacoste | 15:05 |
| SteveA | (other items) | 15:05 |
| SteveA | ---- | 15:05 |
| SteveA | * Blockers | 15:05 |
| SteveA | 15:05 | |
| SteveA | * Next meeting | 15:05 |
| SteveA | same time next week | 15:05 |
| SteveA | Anyone know that they will be away? | 15:05 |
| gmb | I won't be here next week. | 15:06 |
| kiko | Schnitz, yes, a question of time. probably 1-2 weeks | 15:06 |
| SteveA | * OOPS report : matsubara | 15:06 |
| stub | me | 15:06 |
| matsubara | Today's oops report is about bugs 153884, 153901 | 15:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 153884 in rosetta "Translation import queue needs better validation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153884 | 15:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 153901 in launchpad "OOPS registering attendance in a sprint with year before 1900" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153901 | 15:06 |
| matsubara | carlos, bug 153884 is the one we discussed yesterday. I couldn't trigger it in | 15:07 |
| matsubara | the exact same way you did in production, but it's a start. Can you take that one? | 15:07 |
| carlos | SteveA: jtv, danilos and I will be in a sprint, although I guess we will be able to attend the meeting as usual | 15:07 |
| matsubara | jsk, are you the right person to take 153901? | 15:07 |
| carlos | matsubara: sure | 15:07 |
| matsubara | carlos: thanks. I have some other test cases that trigger a bug in that page. I'll add it to the bug report. | 15:08 |
| intellectronica | jsk, matsubara: isn't that already covered by work the jsk started on date formatting? | 15:08 |
| carlos | matsubara: ok, thank you. That form needs a lot of love so that's really helpful | 15:08 |
| matsubara | intellectronica: I think it might be covered by bug 139413 | 15:08 |
| ubotu | Bug 139413 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/139413 is private | 15:08 |
| kiko | carlos, it's very easy to cause that page to OOPS, btw. | 15:09 |
| matsubara | intellectronica: there's also bug 134063 but that's not in progress... | 15:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 134063 in launchpad "OOPS registering sprint or meeting using date format DD-M-YYYY" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134063 | 15:09 |
| jsk____ | intellectronica: possibly - I was offline for a moment there. | 15:09 |
| mpt | ... I won't be here next week. (Sorry, just realized.) | 15:10 |
| matsubara | jsk____: do you think you'll fix 139413 soon? | 15:10 |
| kiko | cool. | 15:10 |
| kiko | SteveA, move on. | 15:10 |
| SteveA | kiko: why? | 15:11 |
| jsk____ | intellectronica, matsubara: this is primarily related to bug 139360 | 15:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139360 in launchpad "DateTimeParser fails silently for certain inputs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139360 | 15:11 |
| SteveA | matsubara: are you done? | 15:11 |
| matsubara | jsk____: ah so you need a upstream fixed | 15:11 |
| matsubara | SteveA: not yet | 15:11 |
| matsubara | s/fixed/fix/ | 15:11 |
| jsk____ | matsubara: yes this is related to an upstream bug. | 15:11 |
| kiko | SteveA, because this can be resolved privately. | 15:11 |
| kiko | the oops has been raised already | 15:11 |
| kiko | (and it's not a very common oops) | 15:12 |
| matsubara | jsk____: ok then. thanks | 15:12 |
| matsubara | SteveA: ok, back to you. | 15:12 |
| jsk____ | matsubara: welcome. | 15:12 |
| SteveA | thanks matsubara | 15:12 |
| SteveA | * Actions from last meeting | 15:12 |
| SteveA | mrevell to report a bug about "ubuntero", etc. | 15:12 |
| mrevell | Yes, that's done it is bug number | 15:12 |
| SteveA | * # | 15:13 |
| SteveA | * Critical Bugs (Rinchen) | 15:13 |
| SteveA | # | 15:13 |
| mrevell | Sorry | 15:13 |
| mrevell | mislaid number | 15:13 |
| mrevell | will report to list | 15:13 |
| Rinchen | Hi, Two bugs have been resolved and cherrypicked: Bug #147633 and Bug #148147. One bug remains on the list and that's Bug #150988. cprov, what's the current status on this? Please update the bug report too. SteveA, I've replied to you moments ago via email about bug #86185 | 15:13 |
| ubotu | Bug 147633 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/147633 is private | 15:13 |
| ubotu | Bug 148147 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/148147 is private | 15:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 150988 in soyuz "queue-builder failing due duplicated entries in the DB" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150988 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov) | 15:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 86185 in launchpad "Librarian should log OOPS reports" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86185 | 15:13 |
| cprov | me (sorry, was distracted with a code review) | 15:15 |
| cprov | Rinchen: 1.1.10 code will cope with the problem pointed in 150988 | 15:15 |
| Rinchen | so we're targeting next week's roll-out for resolution then. | 15:16 |
| cprov | Rinchen: I didn't have time to work on the DB cleanup patch yet, but since we *can* live with the broken data, I think the bug should be demoted to 'high' | 15:17 |
| kiko | cprov, won't the broken data cause the constraint to not apply? | 15:17 |
| kiko | cprov, and isn't the broken data causing OOPSes too? | 15:17 |
| cprov | kiko: right, the broken data in gutsy-* will block the constraint | 15:18 |
| kiko | cprov, it needs fixing asap. | 15:18 |
| cprov | kiko: but I don't think they are causing any OOPSes | 15:18 |
| kiko | cprov, the "lastscore" oopses? | 15:18 |
| cprov | kiko: yes, if people hit 'retry' on the duplicated build :( | 15:19 |
| kiko | right. | 15:19 |
| kiko | so let's fix the damned builds. don't we have a script that does this already? | 15:20 |
| Rinchen | kiko, do you have some time later today to work this a bit further with cprov (in the interest of meeting time)? | 15:20 |
| cprov | kiko: partially, because we can't remove stuff published in gutsy | 15:20 |
| cprov | kiko: we have to tweak the SQL generated by the script manually | 15:21 |
| cprov | kiko: right, let's sort this together, but we need a DBA (postgres access to jubany). | 15:22 |
| Rinchen | Thanks cprov | 15:22 |
| Rinchen | SteveA, over to you. | 15:23 |
| SteveA | thanks Rinchen | 15:23 |
| SteveA | * Bug tags | 15:23 |
| SteveA | there is one bug tag proposed today | 15:23 |
| SteveA | lp-deps | 15:23 |
| SteveA | bugs related to the launchpad*-dependencies packages in Ubuntu | 15:23 |
| SteveA | however, the bug examples aren't linked | 15:24 |
| SteveA | so I can't easily look them up | 15:24 |
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| flacoste | why not something about lp-deps | 15:24 |
| flacoste | sorry, lp-debs | 15:24 |
| SteveA | I'm defering this until later in the meeting | 15:24 |
| flacoste | or lp-packaging | 15:24 |
| SteveA | kiko: please make the links | 15:24 |
| SteveA | * Operations report (mthaddon) | 15:24 |
| flacoste | since we might have other LP related packages in the future (for API stuff) | 15:24 |
| mthaddon | Issues with PostgreSQL and escalation which SteveA has discussed on the list | 15:24 |
| mthaddon | Working on codehosting staging setup and feeds staging setup | 15:24 |
| mthaddon | Lots of cricket work over the last week - also in the process of migrating cricket to a new server to take load off asuka | 15:24 |
| mthaddon | That's it from me unless there are any question | 15:24 |
| SteveA | thanks mthaddon | 15:25 |
| SteveA | * DBA report (stub) | 15:25 |
| stub | At about 13:50 UTC either something chewed up way too much shared memory | 15:25 |
| stub | resources on the Production DB or we ran out of locks. Restarting the | 15:25 |
| stub | appservers and authserver appears to have fixed the issue, which indicates | 15:25 |
| stub | it was either an appserver or the authserver chewing up the shared resources. | 15:25 |
| stub | I'll increase the suggested tuning parameter next rollout, but we have no | 15:25 |
| stub | way of knowing the actual cause or if we will ever see it again. Given the | 15:25 |
| stub | codebase has been reasonably static as has the database there is a good | 15:25 |
| stub | chance we will never see it again - just a one off glitch causing an | 15:25 |
| stub | outage. | 15:25 |
| stub | I don't know how long the outage was for or if it 'ramped up' to a | 15:26 |
| stub | full on outage or switched from working to not working quickly. As far as | 15:26 |
| stub | I am aware it was a single outage rather than an ongoing problem. | 15:26 |
| stub | If you have approved branches with db patches land em. | 15:26 |
| stub | I'm on leave tomorrow, back on Wednesday. I'll probably be around tomorrow | 15:26 |
| stub | during the day. | 15:26 |
| SteveA | stub: was the database restarted? | 15:26 |
| SteveA | stub: was the shared memory max increased? | 15:27 |
| stub | Not that I am aware of. And no mem changes have been made (they require a restart) | 15:27 |
| SteveA | stub: please send a message to the launchpad list in future when we have any kind of database issue that causes failing pages | 15:27 |
| stub | Or if you mean the linux max, I don't know. | 15:27 |
| mthaddon | DB wasn't restarted as far as I know either | 15:27 |
| SteveA | * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | 15:28 |
| Rinchen | Hi! Is anyone blocked on an RT or have any that are becoming urgent? flacoste, did someone respond with the email information? | 15:28 |
| Rinchen | and yes, barry, I'll remind elmo today :-) | 15:28 |
| flacoste | Rinchen: no | 15:28 |
| barry | Rinchen: thanks! | 15:28 |
| Rinchen | Thanks flacoste. | 15:28 |
| jtv | Rinchen: #29134 | 15:29 |
| kiko | SteveA, you are pretty good at skipping /my/ topics, hmmm. | 15:29 |
| Rinchen | Who is the correct person to advise flacoste about how to access the incoming staging email pop? | 15:29 |
| SteveA | kiko: what topic is that? | 15:29 |
| kiko | SteveA, the proposed bug tag. it was just a matter of outputting the bug numbers here and getting them linkified! | 15:29 |
| SteveA | kiko: yep, so we'll come back to it later in the meeting. defered to later in this meeting, not skipped. | 15:29 |
| kiko | Rinchen, matsubara would know -- didn't he email people about this a while back? | 15:29 |
| Rinchen | flacoste, worst case I can have IS reset the pw on it and have them provide you that info. I would assume it was a config value. mthaddon ? | 15:30 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, incoming mail is configured on staging - what access does flacoste need? | 15:30 |
| matsubara | Rinchen, kiko, flacoste: I have access only to the outgoing mailbox | 15:30 |
| flacoste | mthaddon: the credentials so that process-mail.py can access the POP mailbox where these email ends up | 15:30 |
| mthaddon | flacoste, it's already working and in place | 15:30 |
| flacoste | incoming email that is | 15:30 |
| flacoste | mthaddon: do they end up at the same place that the /outgoing/ ones go? | 15:31 |
| Rinchen | jtv, got it, thanks. | 15:31 |
| mthaddon | flacoste, there's a config file in the directory above where RF sits on staging that defines how to connect to the incoming mail box | 15:31 |
| flacoste | mthaddon: ok, thanks! | 15:31 |
| flacoste | Rinchen: case close | 15:32 |
| Rinchen | flacoste, mthaddon - thanks | 15:32 |
| Rinchen | jtv, elmo the good man he is, raised your ticket and assigned it earlier today so you can expect it soonish | 15:32 |
| Rinchen | SteveA, back to you | 15:32 |
| SteveA | kiko: please make the examples links. that way, they're available and convenient for people to look at ahead of time, not at the last minute in this meeting. | 15:32 |
| SteveA | thanks Rinchen | 15:32 |
| jtv | Rinchen, elmo: thanks | 15:32 |
| SteveA | * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) | 15:32 |
| mrevell | In the "User deletion" thread on the launchpad-users list, Cesare Falco | 15:32 |
| mrevell | raises bug 87326. | 15:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 87326 in soyuz "Support PPA Renaming and Reassignment" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87326 | 15:32 |
| kiko | SteveA, jesus christ, it's just 4 bugs requesting packaging stuff into lp-dependencies | 15:32 |
| mrevell | When changing his Launchpad username, | 15:33 |
| mrevell | Cesare's PPA remained under his | 15:33 |
| mrevell | previous Launchpad username. | 15:33 |
| mrevell | I'll send a mail to the launchpad-users list to kick of a discussion. | 15:33 |
| mrevell | Thank you and back to you SteveA. | 15:33 |
| mrevell | Apologies for odd formatting. | 15:33 |
| mpt | I thought we didn't allow people to change their Launchpad ID for precisely that reason. | 15:33 |
| kiko | mpt, we do allow them to change it. | 15:33 |
| SteveA | we do allow people to change their id | 15:33 |
| mpt | Maybe I'm confusing that with project IDs | 15:34 |
| SteveA | however, we have discussed the idea that there are certain things you do | 15:34 |
| SteveA | that mean you can no longer change your id after doing those things | 15:34 |
| kiko | bug #141046 | 15:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 141046 in launchpad "lp-dependencies missing ssh" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141046 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado) | 15:34 |
| SteveA | we need to think about how to warn people about this, and how all that would work | 15:34 |
| mpt | ok | 15:34 |
| SteveA | I think some forum software or whatever allows people one name change shortly after joining | 15:35 |
| Rinchen | SteveA, or perhaps would should let them but with a warning. | 15:35 |
| SteveA | I've seen that kind of thing before | 15:35 |
| SteveA | * starred reviews - barry | 15:35 |
| barry | I sent an email to launchpad@ about starred review status, please read and let | 15:35 |
| barry | me know if you have any questions. In summary: if your branch is being | 15:35 |
| barry | reviewed by a mentored reviwer (a.k.a. recruit) your review status will have a | 15:35 |
| barry | star until it is approved by that reviewer's mentor. You are not allowed to | 15:35 |
| barry | commit any branch that is still starred. | 15:35 |
| barry | Once the mentor approves the review, your reviewer will remove the star and | 15:36 |
| barry | then you can act on the status (e.g. commit if it's approved). Any status can | 15:36 |
| barry | be starred, and when you respond to a needs-reply* branch, please keep the | 15:36 |
| barry | star when you move it to needs-review*. | 15:36 |
| cprov | Rinchen: if we allow them to change a PPA directory will remain lost | 15:36 |
| barry | done | 15:36 |
| SteveA | thanks barry | 15:37 |
| SteveA | * postgres shared memory - flacoste | 15:37 |
| cprov | Rinchen: I meant, a warning won't solve the issue, we should either deny changes or support them properly. | 15:37 |
| SteveA | actually, that's my item | 15:37 |
| flacoste | (If you aren't aware of it, go reat the 'Critical issue...' threads on | 15:37 |
| flacoste | the LP mailing list.) | 15:37 |
| carlos | barry: btw, pendingreviews page needs to be updated to handle needs-mentoring status, or does it disappear with the * flag? | 15:37 |
| flacoste | The DB is running out of shared memory causing transactions in many different | 15:37 |
| SteveA | I just put flacoste's name on it because he's taking it forward :-) | 15:37 |
| flacoste | parts of LP to fail. | 15:37 |
| flacoste | We have two suspects: | 15:37 |
| flacoste | - recent use introduction of usage of TEMP table in Translations code. | 15:37 |
| flacoste | - increase usage of authserver and/or Librarian. | 15:37 |
| flacoste | The more of think of it, the more I'm pretty sure it's the changes to use | 15:37 |
| flacoste | SQLObject in the authserver that is the problem. | 15:38 |
| flacoste | These changes were merged on 2007-07-3, so well after the last Ubuntu release. | 15:38 |
| flacoste | Each Ubuntu release brings a spike in usage on the wiki, so it makes sense | 15:38 |
| flacoste | that we are only seeing this now. | 15:38 |
| flacoste | Temporary solution: revert the authserver to the old version not using | 15:38 |
| flacoste | SQLObject. But since there were later changes to the authserver for Code | 15:38 |
| flacoste | stuff, that may not be practical. | 15:38 |
| flacoste | Permanent solution would be to fix bug #140817. | 15:38 |
| flacoste | sorry, well, i prepared something :-) | 15:38 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 140817 in launchpad "The librarian reconnects too often (and takes too long to do so)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140817 - Assigned to Francis J. Lacoste (flacoste) | 15:38 |
| barry | carlos: bjornt is looking at issues related to pending-reviews and the new star flag | 15:38 |
| carlos | ok | 15:38 |
| SteveA | flacoste: thanks | 15:39 |
| SteveA | * Blockers | 15:39 |
| flacoste | Foundations team: not blocked | 15:39 |
| SteveA | SC: not blocked | 15:39 |
| jtv | Translations team: Not blocked. We wish. | 15:39 |
| Rinchen | Releases Team: Not Blocked. | 15:40 |
| BjornT | Bugs team: not blocked | 15:40 |
| bigjools | soyuz: not blocked | 15:40 |
| ddaa | Code: not blocked | 15:40 |
| Rinchen | flacoste is my hero. | 15:40 |
| Rinchen | For today at least :-) | 15:40 |
| SteveA | ok | 15:41 |
| SteveA | and coming back to the bug tags... | 15:41 |
| SteveA | for the proposed tag 'lpdeps', the heading and bugs are not linked, making it inconvenient for readers to see what bugs are refered to | 15:42 |
| SteveA | even so, I think this is better done with a Product | 15:42 |
| SteveA | as it's not launchpad code we're talking about, but packages for use by developers and installation on servers | 15:42 |
| SteveA | so, I think we should use a launchpad-dependencies Project for this instead | 15:42 |
| SteveA | kiko: you proposed the tag. comments? | 15:43 |
| salgado | +1 for the Project | 15:43 |
| kiko | SteveA, I'm fine with a separate project; it sounds more correct to me tbh. | 15:44 |
| SteveA | cool | 15:44 |
| kiko | the only reason I proposed a tag was to be less controversial | 15:44 |
| kiko | but having it be a project will allow us to use Packaging links correctly too | 15:44 |
| SteveA | great | 15:44 |
| kiko | since these are included in Ubuntu | 15:44 |
| kiko | my /only/ question is | 15:44 |
| kiko | why don't we just use the Ubuntu packages to manage these bugs? it appears that that is frowned upon | 15:45 |
| SteveA | which ubuntu packages? | 15:45 |
| kiko | as Salgado commented in one of the bugs I looked at yesterday | 15:45 |
| kiko | launchpad*-dependencies? | 15:45 |
| SteveA | those were in dapper iirc | 15:45 |
| SteveA | by mistake | 15:45 |
| statik | Collaborative Commerce: not blocked (sorry for the delay there) | 15:45 |
| flacoste | isn't because they are published from another APT archive? | 15:45 |
| salgado | kiko, they don't really exist in Ubuntu | 15:45 |
| SteveA | so, basically, they are not in ubuntu in any meaningful sense | 15:46 |
| SteveA | we could put them in a PPA | 15:46 |
| kiko | they aren't? | 15:46 |
| kiko | okay let me shut up then. | 15:46 |
| SteveA | right | 15:46 |
| SteveA | they were in once, but it was a mistake | 15:46 |
| mpt | That may be related to the recently-reported bug about "partner" appearing as an Ubuntu pocket | 15:46 |
| kiko | a separate project is fine, I'll move the bugs across. | 15:46 |
| SteveA | so they were removed again | 15:46 |
| SteveA | cool | 15:46 |
| kiko | thanks! | 15:46 |
| SteveA | so, 'lpdeps' as a bug tag is rejected in favour of using a Project | 15:46 |
| SteveA | I'd like us to use PPA for these, if possible, in the future | 15:47 |
| SteveA | dogfooding and all that | 15:47 |
| SteveA | ok, that's all folks | 15:47 |
| SteveA | thanks for being here and keeping the meeting productive | 15:47 |
| flacoste | we can't report bugs against packages in PPAs yet? | 15:47 |
| SteveA | MEETING ENDS | 15:47 |
| flacoste | that would be a cool feature! | 15:47 |
| kiko | flacoste, we can't no. and that's a scary question. :) | 15:47 |
| kiko | flacoste, talk to sabdfl. kthxbye :) | 15:47 |
| flacoste | each PPAs becoming a mini-distribution :-) | 15:47 |
| ScottK | flacoste: Please, $DEITY, no. | 15:47 |
| ScottK | kiko: I'm around if you want to discuss the pyspf upstream info you mentioned yesterday (or the day before). | 15:48 |
| flacoste | i'm sure Mark would like the idea... | 15:48 |
| * mpt tries to imagine the navigation that would involve | 15:48 | |
| mpt | Translations for PPAs? Questions for PPAs? | 15:48 |
| gmb | c! | 15:48 |
| flacoste | so maybe I shouldn't talk about it then | 15:48 |
| * ScottK tries to imagine the nightmare for but triagers. | 15:48 | |
| gmb | Ignore me. | 15:48 |
| kiko | ScottK! Let me get off the phone :) | 15:48 |
| ScottK | kiko: No rush. | 15:48 |
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| Rinchen | flacoste, you mean micro-distribution right? ;-) | 15:49 |
| flacoste | Rinchen: you get to pick the name | 15:50 |
| Rinchen | Launchpad Outstanding User-created Distribution | 15:51 |
| * Rinchen toddles off to do real work. | 15:51 | |
| sabdfl | flacoste: we are SO going to have to solve that | 15:54 |
| sabdfl | because sooner, rather than later, bugs will start to show up against Ubuntu for PPA packages :-) | 15:54 |
| flacoste | sabdlf: i knew you would like the idea! | 15:54 |
| sabdfl | in my ideal world, apport / bugbuddy / whatevertool would know that a package was installed from a PPA and file it in the right place | 15:55 |
| sabdfl | it's just that we don't currently know what "the right place" is :-) | 15:55 |
| * ScottK would like "right" to be somewhere where Ubuntu bug triagers never have to deal with it. | 15:56 | |
| lamont | ScottK: until it's flagged as also affecting ubuntu | 15:56 |
| ScottK | lamont: If it's in a PPA, by definition it doesn't. | 15:57 |
| lamont | cprov: so - about my question from right at the meeting start... got a couple minutes to chat? | 15:57 |
| lamont | ScottK: it's possible that I'm encountering a bug in the part of the package that wasn't changed in stuffing it into the ppa | 15:57 |
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| ScottK | lamont: Then go test against a real package and file against that. | 15:58 |
| lamont | just because I find a bug in an ubuntu package with a -ubuntuN suffix in the version doesn't mean that it doesn't affect debian | 15:58 |
| lamont | ah, I'd rather they just marked the bug as also-affects. | 15:58 |
| ScottK | True, but it takes some figuring by someone who (usually) knows more than the bug reporter to know. | 15:59 |
| cprov | lamont: can't it wait 30 min ? I need some food ;) | 15:59 |
| lamont | then again, I'd like to be able to say that a bug also-affects debian, and have LP deal with the mechanics of filing said bug for me if it's not already there. | 15:59 |
| lamont | cprov: sure | 15:59 |
| lamont | poke me | 15:59 |
| cprov | ok | 15:59 |
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| lamont | ScottK: then again, having LP file bugs against debian or other upstream begins to enter the political space | 15:59 |
| ScottK | lamont: Exactly. | 15:59 |
| lamont | ScottK: and since ubuntu is apolitical (esp wrt our derivatives?), we shouldn't mind the 'also-affects' activity | 16:00 |
| ScottK | lamont: You may not. I certainly do. All the also affects baltix bugs in backports drive me nuts. How can a request to backport to Ubuntu Feisty affect baltix? | 16:01 |
| lamont | because baltix is planning to do a feisty.7 release? :-) | 16:02 |
| lamont | or is derived from feisty-backports? (*phear*) | 16:02 |
| ScottK | I have no idea, but feisty-backports is a project about backporting to a specific Ubuntu release. Baltix should deal with their own problems and not spam me with their bugmail. | 16:04 |
| ubotu | New bug: #153934 in launchpad "Ubuntero status shouldn't appear on everyone's profile page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153934 | 16:05 |
| lamont | ScottK: ah... that's a different issue. LP shouldn't be sending you also-affects email, I expect | 16:10 |
| lamont | or you should be able to tell it not to | 16:10 |
| ScottK | lamont: You're either subscribed to the bug or not AFAIK | 16:10 |
| lamont | grumble. I see your point | 16:11 |
| lamont | also-affects (in my mind anyway) wants to be a very light weight clone of the bug | 16:11 |
| ScottK | lamont: That'd be different, but that's not the LP we have today. | 16:13 |
| lamont | right. iz bug. :-) | 16:14 |
| ScottK | OK. Get them to fix that, then we'll talk. | 16:14 |
| lamont | OTOH, procmail is love | 16:14 |
| ScottK | Sure, I could filter out irrelevanceies, but I shouldn't have to be bothered. | 16:15 |
| lamont | you should file a bug that says 'also affects' should not generate mail, maybe | 16:15 |
| seb128 | hey | 16:16 |
| seb128 | does anybody if it's possible to have a bot displaying all the commits to a launchpad team archive on IRC? | 16:17 |
| pochu | can't ubotu do that? | 16:17 |
| pochu | lamont, ScottK: I think Also Affects should generate mail. If I have a bug in a package, and it also affects upstream, for example, I'd really like to know what upstream thinks about it. | 16:18 |
| ScottK | pochu: Then subscribe to that too. | 16:18 |
| pochu | lamont, ScottK: Also, how would you know a comment is reported against feisty-backports, or against baltix? | 16:19 |
| pochu | ScottK: hmm, that might have sense... | 16:19 |
| ScottK | Well currently you don't | 16:19 |
| ScottK | That's another part of the problem. | 16:19 |
| lamont | pochu: which is why 'also affects' should really be cloning the bug | 16:19 |
| kiko | pochu, also affects does generate email -- do you mean to the people subscribed to the bug, though? | 16:23 |
| ScottK | kiko: lamont and I were just wishing it didn't and he was presenting a counter argument. | 16:24 |
| lamont | kiko: when a downstream disto says "me too", I really don't want to hear it: that's their bug. | 16:25 |
| lamont | OTOH, when they have a patch for me, I'd love to know | 16:25 |
| kiko | lamont, I'm not sure you really don't want to hear it in all cases. | 16:25 |
| lamont | and if someone marks the bug as "also affects upstream", then I do want to hear about it, generally. | 16:25 |
| kiko | and it's easier to ignore or delete email than to make it appear when it doesn't. :) | 16:25 |
| lamont | kiko: heh | 16:25 |
| ScottK | kiko: I'm certain when baltix me too's feisty-backports bugs that I don't want to hear it in all cases. | 16:25 |
| lamont | kiko: and understood... | 16:26 |
| lamont | kiko: ostrich-releases like backports (head in the sand, don't care about the world) _would_ be a case where I don't want to hear about it _ever_. | 16:26 |
| kiko | ScottK, you can ignore mail by component you know :-) | 16:27 |
| lamont | but backports could be special in that regard. | 16:27 |
| kiko | but not by pocket, hmm | 16:27 |
| lamont | kiko: sounds like you know what to put in _that_ bug report, eh? :-) | 16:27 |
| kiko | heh | 16:30 |
| keescook | ddaa: heya | 16:32 |
| ddaa | keescook: I looked a your xpath stuff | 16:33 |
| ddaa | the biggest problem I have is not translating it | 16:33 |
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| ddaa | is figuring what the hell it's intended to do | 16:33 |
| keescook | hehe, yeah. | 16:34 |
| ddaa | I have a feeling it should be reasonably easy to translate to some functional programming construct that's more readable | 16:34 |
| * lamont wonders if there is a mailing list that all build logs get mailed to... | 16:34 | |
| pochu | seb128: #ubuntu-installer has the CIA bot, which does that for them. You might want to talk to cjwatson or evand. | 16:34 |
| ddaa | or even not even functional programming at all... | 16:34 |
| keescook | ddaa: sure, I totally believe it's possible to do that; I'm interested in figuring out why it doesn't work with the "workaround" document obj. | 16:34 |
| ddaa | keescook: what I am interested in | 16:35 |
| ddaa | is enabling folks like to make nice greasemonkey love for launchpad | 16:35 |
| seb128 | pochu: as they documented on their wiki that's something they set up on the commiter side, not on the server | 16:35 |
| ddaa | keescook: figuring why esoteric undocumented features of firefox do not work as intended in edge cases is, like, totally not on my radar :) | 16:35 |
| keescook | ddaa: um, esoteric? xpath is very very common. | 16:36 |
| pochu | seb128: ok, but that's what you asked for, isn't it? :-) | 16:36 |
| ddaa | I know xpath, I just never heard of a portable way to evaluate xpath expression in js | 16:36 |
| ddaa | keescook: I'd be glad to be educated, though | 16:37 |
| * keescook has no clue | 16:37 | |
| keescook | I just use things from examples I see. :) | 16:37 |
| seb128 | pochu: not really, I would like a server side solution, not something which display commit only of people who configured the hook locally | 16:37 |
| keescook | but I know xpath is all fancy-cool and what all the web2.0 kidz are using. :) | 16:37 |
| * ddaa used xpath beyound reason when he was a xslt crack-peddler | 16:38 | |
| ddaa | keescook: here's my hunch | 16:38 |
| ddaa | try stuffing the data into a hidden element on the page | 16:38 |
| ddaa | it might it's not working because the DOM is not up in the air, and not in a page | 16:39 |
| ddaa | in any case, it does not look it a problem with launchpad at all | 16:39 |
| ddaa | prove me wrong and give me something to fix | 16:39 |
| keescook | ddaa: that's true. I do get an XML response now. | 16:39 |
| keescook | I'll try the hidden element hack. :) do you have a small snippet as an example of that? | 16:40 |
| ddaa | nope, I just imagined it might work :) | 16:40 |
| ddaa | but I cannot help the feeling that it would be more sensible to stick to simple things that get the job done | 16:41 |
| pochu | seb128: this might be interesting: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+spec/irc-notifications | 16:42 |
| ddaa | keescook: I'm thinking of closing bug 153654 as invalid | 16:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 153654 in launchpad "null XHR.responseXML" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153654 - Assigned to David Allouche (ddaa) | 16:42 |
| seb128 | pochu: right, the idea is not new ;-) | 16:42 |
| keescook | ddaa: okay, that's fine by me. | 16:43 |
| ddaa | I talked a bit with mpt, and he seems to be extremely meh about serving pages as text/xml... | 16:43 |
| kiko | hey Seveas | 16:43 |
| kiko | ScottK, so, about pyspf. | 16:43 |
| keescook | yeah, that's fine. Adding the mime override for XML use is okay by me. | 16:43 |
| Seveas | hey kiko | 16:43 |
| kiko | ScottK, it's actually the case that because pyspf releases separate tarballs, it's meant to be a separate project indeed. | 16:44 |
| kiko | ScottK, now I've set up a code import for it on trunk and am waiting for it to sync | 16:44 |
| ddaa | keescook: btw, I have just come up with some userContent.css you might want to use | 16:44 |
| keescook | ddaa: oh? | 16:45 |
| ScottK | kiko: I don't see anything on LP about it? | 16:45 |
| kiko | Seveas, how could I convince you to rig your bot to also accept commit messages? | 16:45 |
| kiko | ScottK, in https://edge.launchpad.net/pyspf? | 16:45 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 16:45 |
| kiko | ScottK, because that's what represents the upstream side of the project | 16:46 |
| Seveas | kiko, a suitable bribe and/or a more clear explanation of what you mean | 16:46 |
| ScottK | kiko: I was looking at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyspf | 16:46 |
| Seveas | :) | 16:46 |
| kiko | Seveas, so seb128 was talking to be about how it would be neat to get commit messages posted to IRC | 16:46 |
| kiko | Seveas, and I was thinking that if we got your bot to subscribe to a branch, it'd get notified | 16:46 |
| ScottK | kiko: I don't see any indication of code, but maybe that waits for the sync | 16:47 |
| kiko | Seveas, it'd then be a matter of parsing that email and posting it | 16:47 |
| Seveas | kiko, hmm, I'm going to have to redesign the mail-to-irc bits then. They currently require a separate address for each function | 16:48 |
| ScottK | kiko: Homepage and description are still obsolete. | 16:48 |
| kiko | Seveas, we could use a separate address, no problem. | 16:48 |
| Seveas | kiko, file it as a bug please | 16:48 |
| kiko | ScottK, yeah, the sync isn't going yet. but it will, and I'm working on a portlet to display the latest revisions that we could use in useful contexts | 16:48 |
| kiko | ScottK, do you have a good description for it? | 16:48 |
| kiko | I don't | 16:48 |
| ScottK | kiko: Where did you get the wrong one you have? | 16:49 |
| Seveas | kiko, it is a problem since it's not trivial to create N launchpad accounts for N branches. Ideally, adding a branch (or bug) monitor should be fairly trivial | 16:49 |
| kiko | ScottK, from http://www.wayforward.net/spf/ | 16:49 |
| kiko | ScottK, incidentally. :) | 16:49 |
| ScottK | So where did you get that? | 16:50 |
| kiko | ScottK, http://www.google.com.br/search?q=pyspf&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a | 16:50 |
| ScottK | kiko: It would seem to me to make sense to look at the perfectly reasonable package description provided in the Debian packaging. | 16:51 |
| ScottK | The problem in this case is that that hasn't been the project's home for ~3 years. | 16:51 |
| lamont | ScottK: if the package isn't 3 years old, then that's a bug. | 16:52 |
| lamont | if it is, then it's just annoying | 16:53 |
| kiko | ScottK, arguably, the project needs its own homepage :) | 16:53 |
| ScottK | kiko: It's got all the home page it needs on Sourceforge or Python Cheeseshop. | 16:54 |
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| kiko | ScottK, fair enough. maybe get the original author to redirect to it? :) | 16:55 |
| ubotu | New bug: #153948 in rosetta "translation does not update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153948 | 16:56 |
| ScottK | kiko: Sure, but I'm sensing this is a wrong way to go about this. | 16:56 |
| kiko | ScottK, updated the upstream page, now | 16:57 |
| ddaa | keescook: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41077/ | 16:57 |
| ScottK | kiko: I'm one of the upstream developers. I just took over as Debian maintainer for the package (although I havne't uploaded yet), and here I am (only because I also happen to use Ubuntu) having to tell you that it's wrong. | 16:57 |
| ScottK | This just doesn't seem like a process that is going to scale well at all. | 16:57 |
| kiko | ScottK, now that this is done more useful things can happen. | 16:59 |
| ScottK | kiko: How is this going to work for the thousands of packages in Universe? | 17:00 |
| kiko | ScottK, one step at a time? we already have about a thousand covered | 17:00 |
| keescook | ddaa: neat; how do I apply that? | 17:00 |
| ddaa | stick that into chrome/userContent.css | 17:00 |
| ubotu | New bug: #153955 in soyuz "Creating a new distribution series with a space in its name causes an IntegrityError but no OOPS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153955 | 17:01 |
| ScottK | kiko: How many of those are as wrong as this one? So far you are 0 for 1 I've looked at. | 17:01 |
| kiko | behold the statistics ;) | 17:02 |
| ScottK | Well so far, I've wasted a fair amount of time getting something that is of no value to me right. I don't understand why it exists at all. | 17:04 |
| kiko | ScottK, it would help if you helped maintain the upstream project, given you are an upstream developer, in this specific case. we've done that for most upstreams that we have a good relationship with | 17:04 |
| ScottK | Why should I spend time on it? | 17:04 |
| kiko | ScottK, i.e. I maintain the kiwi and stoq packages | 17:04 |
| ScottK | What value is it to me as an upstream or an Ubuntu dev? | 17:04 |
| kiko | which I am upstream for | 17:04 |
| kiko | ScottK, I guess I need to write a blog entry about that | 17:04 |
| ScottK | As an Ubuntu dev, all I want is to be able to link to upstream bugs. | 17:05 |
| kiko | ScottK, but to be honest, I'm not sure how much time you've wasted since it's me doing all the real work! | 17:05 |
| ScottK | All this other stuff is just extraneous cruft. | 17:05 |
| kiko | you are just the one being a curmudgeon. :) | 17:05 |
| ScottK | Well it's me sitting here pointing you at it. | 17:05 |
| ScottK | kiko: I do resent time I spend as a volunteer helping you improve your proprietary prodcut. In most cases I have consulting rates for that. | 17:06 |
| kiko | ScottK, one day you will realize that I am just a great a person as your best friend and then you will regret being so nasty to me. but for now I will just ignore that. | 17:07 |
| * kiko goes back to work | 17:08 | |
| ScottK | It's not personal | 17:08 |
| * ScottK really doesn't understand why noticing that launchpad is not FOSS, is being nasty. | 17:08 | |
| LaserJock | ScottK: noticing is one thing, but "resenting" is a bit more than that | 17:11 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Perhaps. Getting forced to work on proprietary products to keep Ubuntu working nicely is something I resent, but OK. | 17:12 |
| ubotu | New bug: #153960 in soyuz "AMD64 sbuild didn't apt-get the 'Build-Depends-Indep' but i386 did" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153960 | 17:15 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: right, but giving the people who *can't* change that a hard time doesn't help make it any free-er, IMO | 17:17 |
| ScottK | Agreed. Equally I really don't appreciate having the time I invest in it (resentful or not) minimized. | 17:17 |
| ubotu | New bug: #153962 in rosetta "Sorry for being rude but this is the only way of contacting you,l " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153962 | 17:20 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: agreed | 17:22 |
| kiko | well, it can be changed, and I do care a lot about it not being free software, but it's not something that happens in a blink. and creating the upstream product and maintaining the packaging link isn't making "a proprietary product" better, it's actually making the Launchpad service for Ubuntu better. but that's ill-documented and I'd better invest time in fixing that than in arguing nonsense over IRC. | 17:24 |
| ScottK | kiko: No trouble. It is how it makes Ubuntu better that I really don't understand. | 17:25 |
| ScottK | kiko: So I'll be glad to read about it in the blog. | 17:26 |
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| === bluekuja_ is now known as bluekuja | ||
| MilesTeg | hi everyone | 18:25 |
| jtv | hi | 18:26 |
| MilesTeg | I want to translate some programs. Is it possible to list all entries that are not translated yet AND have no suggestions? | 18:28 |
| kiko-fud | hmmm. good question. | 18:29 |
| kiko-fud | carlos? | 18:29 |
| jtv | carlos is done for the day. I'm looking at it. I'm already half asleep though, so don't expect much | 18:32 |
| jtv | MilesTeg: in the various translation overviews you'll see a column "need review." That's the number of messages that have pending suggestions. | 18:34 |
| jtv | So at least you'll be able to find the templates that need your attention. Individual messages are harder. | 18:34 |
| MilesTeg | ok, thx | 18:35 |
| MilesTeg | hm... anyway, a filter "untranslated+no suggestions" would be useful... | 18:48 |
| jtv | MilesTeg: you might see if there's a bug ticket for that. | 18:51 |
| MilesTeg | k | 18:52 |
| jtv | Oops, 1 AM, I'm being kicked out. Gotta go! | 18:52 |
| MilesTeg | hm... yes there is a bug ticket... and at least two duplicates ;) | 18:58 |
| kiko-fud | MilesTeg, what's the number? | 19:08 |
| MilesTeg | it's #102943 | 19:08 |
| kiko-fud | bug #102943 | 19:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 102943 in rosetta "Allow displaying only strings that have no suggestions" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102943 | 19:13 |
| === kiko-fud is now known as kiko | ||
| javamaniac | hi everyone, does launchpad have some "clean" way to allow an external application to get data from it? I mean, a web service or something | 19:33 |
| javamaniac | I don't want to use web scrapping for that | 19:33 |
| mwhudson | javamaniac: it depends a bit | 19:33 |
| mwhudson | javamaniac: it is _absolutely_ a goal, but not one that's quite attained yet | 19:34 |
| mwhudson | javamaniac: what sort of info are you after? | 19:34 |
| javamaniac | bug reports | 19:34 |
| pochu | javamaniac: Actually you can use python-launchpad-bugs for that. | 19:34 |
| pochu | (And bughelper) | 19:34 |
| javamaniac | pochu, Oh, good, I'll search about it | 19:35 |
| ScottK | pochu: bughelper screen scrapes, IIRC. | 19:35 |
| javamaniac | does it? | 19:35 |
| ScottK | Last I looked, yes, but it's been a while. | 19:36 |
| kiko | javamaniac, how much do you need from the bug? | 19:38 |
| javamaniac | kiko, I want to be able to search on the Bug Database (aka Malone) | 19:38 |
| javamaniac | soren, the most of the information, the better | 19:39 |
| kiko | javamaniac, search and do what with the results? | 19:39 |
| javamaniac | so* | 19:39 |
| javamaniac | kiko, I'm doing web app to search on some Bug tracking systems , I have debbugs and bugzila, I'd like to search on Malone from my app | 19:41 |
| javamaniac | (yeah, I know launchpad does it a long time ago) | 19:41 |
| javamaniac | but i'd like to make it on my own way, I'm playing with some ideas about it right now | 19:42 |
| kiko | javamaniac, okay, that's cool, but what sort of information do you want from the results? just the bug ids? | 19:47 |
| javamaniac | kiko, the summary would be cool too | 19:48 |
| kiko | javamaniac, mmmm. we used to have a working way to do queries for bug that returned text only. I'll look into fixing it :-/ | 19:50 |
| javamaniac | kiko, great!, let me know about it :) | 19:51 |
| ubotu | New bug: #154018 in launchpad "supermirror@vostok keep locking my branch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154018 | 19:55 |
| ubotu | New bug: #154053 in launchpad "launchpad account does not work in news" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154053 | 21:40 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #154057 in soyuz "DistroSeries architecture list sorts randomly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154057 | 21:55 |
| === pitoow_AWAY is now known as pitoow | ||
| === pitoow is now known as pitoow_zZz | ||
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