dpvnme | hi | 08:19 |
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dpvnme | i have a bit problem with the sound card, is this the right place to ask? | 08:19 |
pwnguin | everyone asks that and then leaves after an hour with no response | 08:20 |
dpvnme | hum | 08:21 |
dpvnme | can you help me? | 08:21 |
pwnguin | maybe | 08:21 |
dpvnme | ok, i have an acer a135 | 08:21 |
pwnguin | ok | 08:21 |
dpvnme | everything works fine except the sound card | 08:21 |
pwnguin | cool | 08:21 |
dpvnme | i've been reading the wiki and tutorial | 08:21 |
dpvnme | somewhere in the compiling process, i get a lot of errors | 08:22 |
pwnguin | what? | 08:22 |
pwnguin | where did we go from broken sound card to compiling things? | 08:22 |
dpvnme | i guess it's not compiling, more like extracting | 08:23 |
pwnguin | can you link to the wiki page you're following | 08:23 |
pwnguin | ? | 08:23 |
dpvnme | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000C200_89224MG | 08:23 |
dpvnme | i got to the part where they ask to do these thing: | 08:24 |
dpvnme | cd alsa-driver-1.0.14rc3 ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel make sudo make install cd ../alsa-lib-1.0.14rc3 ./configure sudo make install cd ../alsa-utils-1.0.14rc2 ./configure sudo make install | 08:24 |
pwnguin | that's basically compiling.. | 08:24 |
pwnguin | which is fine | 08:25 |
dpvnme | yes, then next, they ask me to do this: Now we remove the old and insert the new alsa module: | 08:25 |
dpvnme | with this command: sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel | 08:25 |
dpvnme | that's where the error comes in, some folder suppose to be there but it's not | 08:26 |
pwnguin | are you running ubuntu 7.04? | 08:26 |
dpvnme | the latest | 08:26 |
dpvnme | it just came out few days ago | 08:27 |
pwnguin | gutsy? | 08:27 |
dpvnme | and i did a fresh install | 08:27 |
dpvnme | yes | 08:27 |
pwnguin | ok | 08:27 |
pwnguin | well | 08:28 |
pwnguin | you're basically building alsa from source | 08:28 |
dpvnme | WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-page-alloc.ko': No such file or directory | 08:28 |
dpvnme | that's the error | 08:29 |
pwnguin | which probably means alsa failed to build | 08:29 |
dpvnme | so i went into "core" folder | 08:29 |
dpvnme | i see | 08:29 |
pwnguin | anything there? | 08:29 |
dpvnme | nothing | 08:29 |
pwnguin | yea | 08:29 |
pwnguin | failed to build | 08:29 |
pwnguin | go back to alsa driver directory where you ran make install | 08:30 |
pwnguin | run "make clean" | 08:30 |
dpvnme | ok | 08:30 |
pwnguin | maybe "sudo make clean" | 08:31 |
pwnguin | then do sudo make | 08:31 |
pwnguin | we'll see if it builds | 08:31 |
dpvnme | ok, it's running | 08:31 |
dpvnme | and hey, thank you for helping | 08:32 |
pwnguin | that guide is written for edgy / gutsy on a laptop that isnt your model. i donno how useful it will be for you | 08:32 |
dpvnme | well, it came from this link | 08:32 |
dpvnme | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501422 | 08:32 |
pwnguin | im also not sure if alsa plays well with unmatched kernels | 08:33 |
pwnguin | alsa's really not where ive been spending much attention, in part because it seems a huge PITA to build | 08:34 |
dpvnme | yeah, it end up with bunch of errors | 08:35 |
pwnguin | i that is the source of your troubles | 08:36 |
pwnguin | it couldnt find that .ko because that step failed to make one | 08:36 |
dpvnme | i see | 08:36 |
dpvnme | yeah, there's no .ko file found | 08:37 |
dpvnme | so am i using the wrong driver? | 08:37 |
pwnguin | well | 08:37 |
pwnguin | its hard to say | 08:37 |
pwnguin | without a good build log to look at | 08:37 |
dpvnme | and when i try to install wine, it tells me this: Depends: libaudio2 but it is not installable | 08:38 |
dpvnme | so the sound card must work to run wine? | 08:38 |
pwnguin | hmm | 08:38 |
pwnguin | i dont think so? | 08:38 |
dpvnme | The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured. | 08:39 |
pwnguin | libaudio2 is a network audio system | 08:39 |
dpvnme | that's what i see when i click on the volume icon | 08:39 |
pwnguin | right | 08:39 |
pwnguin | you have no sound module | 08:39 |
dpvnme | and alsa is one of them? | 08:40 |
pwnguin | alsa is the advanced linux sound architecture - A.L.S.A. | 08:40 |
dpvnme | so is it more like of a generic sound module? | 08:41 |
pwnguin | no | 08:41 |
pwnguin | its a collection of several specific sound modules | 08:41 |
pwnguin | and a common software interface that applications can use | 08:41 |
pwnguin | in this case, it seems the snd-intel driver is not so good for you | 08:41 |
pwnguin | err | 08:42 |
pwnguin | hda-intel | 08:42 |
dpvnme | does ubuntu have any driver checking utility? | 08:43 |
dpvnme | i mean to tell which modules is good for this hardware | 08:43 |
pwnguin | not exactly, but we have ways of making intelligent guesses | 08:44 |
pwnguin | run lspci and look for the line that says something about audio or sound | 08:44 |
dpvnme | in the console? | 08:45 |
pwnguin | yea | 08:45 |
pwnguin | ok | 08:45 |
pwnguin | you have an acer laptop | 08:45 |
pwnguin | model a135 | 08:45 |
dpvnme | yes | 08:45 |
pwnguin | the ubuntu thread is for a toshiba a135 | 08:45 |
dpvnme | no | 08:46 |
dpvnme | i'm sorry | 08:46 |
dpvnme | it's a toshiba | 08:46 |
dpvnme | heheh | 08:46 |
dpvnme | acer is the other one i have | 08:46 |
pwnguin | if you're lying to me, it wont help either of us | 08:46 |
dpvnme | no, it's a toshiba satellite a135-s4656 | 08:46 |
pwnguin | alrighty | 08:47 |
pwnguin | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ToshibaSatelliteA135 | 08:47 |
pwnguin | that look familiar? | 08:47 |
pwnguin | heh | 08:47 |
dpvnme | yes | 08:48 |
dpvnme | wow | 08:48 |
dpvnme | so just add one line in it? | 08:48 |
pwnguin | ... it may be a bit late for that | 08:48 |
dpvnme | what do you mean? | 08:49 |
pwnguin | modprobe cant find the sound module anymore | 08:49 |
dpvnme | so do i have to do a fresh install of ubuntu again? | 08:50 |
pwnguin | i think it'll help | 08:50 |
dpvnme | and then add the line | 08:51 |
dpvnme | ? | 08:51 |
pwnguin | thats what i'd do first | 08:51 |
pwnguin | before doing anything like "make install" | 08:51 |
pwnguin | i understand its painful, but this is the price of early adoption | 08:52 |
pwnguin | sometimes what worked in an older version, especially when it involves patching source code, doesn't work anymore | 08:52 |
dpvnme | i see | 08:52 |
dpvnme | so let me get it right, right after install ubuntu | 08:53 |
dpvnme | i go download alsa | 08:53 |
pwnguin | woa | 08:53 |
dpvnme | before compiling | 08:53 |
dpvnme | edit the file? | 08:53 |
pwnguin | reinstall, and if it doesnt work, come back here | 08:53 |
pwnguin | we'll diagnose the root problem, document it, and see about getting it fixed in ubuntu itself | 08:53 |
dpvnme | ok | 08:54 |
dpvnme | but with the default installation, the sound does not work | 08:54 |
pwnguin | so i hear | 08:54 |
pwnguin | the question is why | 08:54 |
dpvnme | i install ubuntu this morning | 08:54 |
dpvnme | ok | 08:54 |
pwnguin | and what exactly needs fixing | 08:54 |
dpvnme | so let me do a fresh reinstall and come back here then | 08:55 |
pwnguin | anyone have an idea why tifm stopped working? | 09:08 |
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